Wow, what's up everybody? Once again, it's Brandman Sean and I'm back with another episode of Acts Brandman where every Wednesday I answer your questions from the comment section below so keep those questions coming. It's the network. Now, today I got a question from SickSkills who says, who helps you get sales, streams and develop fans? Now, to really take this question in because it's pretty general, I think you should focus on the manager. But before I get into why the manager is critical in this particular space, all those sales, streams and developing fans, you have to really understand how to choose to write in manager, how to look at managers and know that it's a real relationship. So if you don't get this that I'm about to go through right now, you're possibly giving a good portion of your business 10, 15, 20% of your business to somebody that's not even right for the role. So this is how you look at managers and this is gonna give you an idea of how you share your business with them, all right? Now, number one, there's a role manager, production manager, a tour manager and tech manager, right? We split it into two categories, your tour show in terms of responsibilities and then your business, general business responsibilities when we're talking about management. Well, if you're a big artist because we're gonna start at the bird's eye view so you can know what it typically grows out to and then how do we hone it in for an indie artist or somebody who's just starting out, right? Role production, tour tech, technical, those are all different roles and somebody like Drake has a manager for every single one of those categories, right? Technical managers is like set design, tour, that's all the logistics for your tour and they're coordinating with the role manager who's handling things on the ground that they're closest to you in terms of a lot of the things that they're doing while you're on the road that you have the production person who's working on literally the production, right? Of your shows. So that's something that you probably don't need early on, right? Pretty clear on that. So don't get too worried over there, right? A lot of people will have a sense of a role manager but really the role manager oftentimes it doubles as one of the business roles which is the day-to-day manager. All right, that's a little messy but you should be able to read it, right? And then you have these other categories of an actual business manager and then you have a, some people call it a music manager, some people call it an artist manager but that's the one that people typically just say this is a manager, it's just a general role. Then you have a booking agent, right? And the booking agent falls under that category because when we go back to who gets you sales, streams and developing news fans now let's break down into these roles because this is more growth. These guys over here or those responsibilities that's handling something that you already have. These are the people who help you grow and maintain and sustain. So let's check this out. Your day-to-day manager, this is the person who's with you all the time. You'll wake up. A lot of times people look at it as a babysitter, right? You'll wake up or you'll be at this appointment here handling some admin work or going to go pick something up to make sure that the studio vibe is right. You know, are there some rellos in this thing? Or what do we have going on? They're making sure your vibe is right, right? In many ways I don't wanna seem like I'm not looting the impact of a day-to-day manager but it's a really a glue guy. They're making sure stuff gets done on a ground level and making sure the artist is comfortable. That's who makes sure the artist is comfortable to do what they wanna do or need to do versus focusing on things outside of creating, right? Oftentimes that's how it gets looked at. Then you have the business manager. This is your money. Your money, right? Your money and oftentimes this person might actually be a accountant. It could be a firm that you're using, right? And you have an account manager who's your business manager. There's different ways to flip this but I'm gonna get into something really important pretty soon, right? The booking agents obviously, right? The person who helps you get booked, right? Because there's agencies who specialize in that as a business, right? But everything comes down to the music and artist manager in terms of how people view it. All of these different roles and responsibilities, people usually just look at as the music artist manager, right? This is my manager. Oh, they should do all these things. I'm expecting all these things and that's not necessarily fair to a manager and this is where a lot of disconnect comes from, right? So, here's what you gotta understand. Number one, your music manager, your actual manager, right? Should not be doing business manager responsibilities, right? That's your, you don't want that person being that close to the money in that particular way or handling all of your money, right? Now you're just literally giving them everything. You got your own taxes that they handling all the money telling you what you should be getting and it just becomes a conflict of interest in a lot of ways. At the beginning, with a little bit of admin and some of those things, it might make a little bit sense in the beginning just because you're running super lean, but as quickly as possible, you need to have some kind of differentiation of, yo, who's actually handling the business and making sure they keep track, right? The, what word is it? The bookkeeping, right? Like how much money's coming in? Who's old, what money? All that type of stuff. That should be a business manager, not a music manager, all right? Now, with that being said, again, the music manager gets a lot of flack because artists are expecting all these things from this guy and it's starting early on, the hustlers, they will be all these things. It just is what it is. However, this is what things need to actually look like long-term because this is where people mess up. Now with the music manager, the regular manager, a lot of those guys, they're day-to-day managers. And what I mean by this is you're hiring somebody or you're work partnering with somebody and you're giving them a percentage of your business when long-term their value might not be any more than a day-to-day manager. And why is this? Well, if they're just starting out, they might not have the connections and when you get to a certain level, right? In terms of connections, the actual skill set to know how to close deals, find sponsors, where do certain things go down and even what's the timeline to make sure certain things happen within, it ends up becoming, now we just have a general manager term, right? And that guy that you had at the beginning, well, I'll just say this is square one, he ends up going here, right? And this is for the best. A lot of times there's a breakup that happens when this guy comes in, right? And there's another manager, but in a lot of the great working scenarios, what happens is, yo, we start off together, now he's the day-to-day manager. So I shouldn't be giving this guy who doesn't have experience 20% of my business, 15% of my business, right? We're growing and we're getting into this career together. You're helping me, right? But at the end of the day, I'm gonna have to start splitting with other people and I need to make sure that money is there because in a great relationship, this guy in a lot of ways begins to mentor that person in some ways, right? So the day-to-day manager or cut his teeth being the role manager, getting all this idea of how the business actually works because they're with you all the time and they're going through the business with you. A lot of these managers started here, but when you're trying to rise in the game and you don't wanna take forever, you can't rely on this one person. You just can't, right? You oftentimes need to find, okay, what's another situation, a greater situation, where they'll be able to help me elevate, right? It just is what it is because this person's gonna know how to do certain things with labels. This person's already gonna have brand connections, industry connections, just all types of knowledge and even a sense of system that they work within. So that's one thing in terms of why you need to not be so easy to give out how much whatever your percentages is. Here's a bonus manager because today, today, traditionally, this didn't work, right? But a bonus manager is your marketer. A lot of times people didn't, but before people didn't look at marketers even as having a role. But once they started the manager, right? The manager was doing more sales back in the day because I'm making a relationship with the labels. I'm making relationships with all these people directly. Once the internet happened, once Indies started to have a lot more of their own platforms that became in control, marketing became more of a farce of serious thing on a level that was beyond, hey, what marketing can the label do for me, right? Now you can go to a marketing agency and possibly have some kind of management agreement because a lot of these management companies are essentially just marketers and know how to move online and digitally. So if you can find a really good digital marketer, that's a good person to start off with as your manager as well, right? If you're not, if you're the whole day to day and you just learn cutting your teeth because you go on the road or you're doing tours and things like that, that's still great, right? But one of the fastest ways for those of you who are managers or want to be managers to get your value is to learn marketing, digital marketing as fast as possible and then bring that value to that artist. In that way, artist, that's what you wanna find, right? Still, when we get to the upper level, there are people who hustle and learn fast and they're able to grow into this role, but it's very rare because everybody needs some level of insight that you can't get unless you start connecting with these people. So they might find some mentors that are the big time managers and they have that type of experience to guide them along the way or you are going to have to find a direct person to actually be a part of your business, they're a manager and still even that marketer is gonna have to fall not maybe into a day to day type role but some type of role that allows them to continue to work for you but they're gonna need to get some learnings from that other manager guy. Now, this is another thing though. A lot of times, just like any relationship, people get into relationships and have completely different expectations of how they should work out. You saw me list those roles before, right? Now, all those roles are very real things like six skills he said who helps you get sales, right?  You have some managers who are really good at this marketing thing. You have some managers who are really good at moving and shaking and, you know, like just making stuff happen from a sense of finding new connections and getting you in certain rooms but they're not good at any kind of digital marketing, right? They don't really understand anything else, right? And then you have a lot of those day to day managers who will ride for you and do whatever but they just don't have the business capacity or the insight to really help you grow from your business side of your career or from your fan-based side of your career. So with that being said, you have to be clear on that and you have to push consistently to make the manager be clear on that and what they wanna do because there's managers, right, who don't like sales, right? And if you don't like sales as a manager, then at this end of the day, then you probably shouldn't have but so much connection in terms of the manager who has a percentage. As I'm getting the percentage, you should only get the so much of a percentage as a manager if you're not willing to bring in sales for an artist. That's just a reality of a situation, right? But that's cool or you are able to really grow them from a marketing standpoint and bring in that fan base, right? So if you can't be tied to any of those results, then how do I justify paying you, right? A percentage, right? Which is more of a commission-based agreement. Maybe it should be something more fixed and I pay you the same type of deal. We hear percentages from a traditional business, right? But we don't have to stick to those rules. You can hire somebody just like a regular job and they have a salary. There are plenty of people, all right, who run and tie like million dollar, a hundred million dollar lines of business for companies and they're making $500,000 a year, right? That's a relatively small percentage of a hundred million, three hundred million dollars, but that's just a normal thing in the marketplace where for some reason in music, we believe that it has to be 10%. So if you make a hundred million dollars, this person makes 10 million dollars. That doesn't have to be. There's plenty of people who are working a regular job who are working and controlling larger than that, right? And are getting paid less than 10 million, right? They'll be happy to be paid a million or just be happy to pay $500,000 a year salary. And I don't buy the whole argument that I have to be inspired, right? So I need a cut of the business. If I work more, I should get more. There's like in a sales company, right? Commission is a very real thing and that's a relationship that a lot of people are used to, but there's a lot of people who don't work on that.  And continue to grow it and they're killing it, but they get paid salary, right? And they're trying to grow and they want to get paid more over the years, right? And you do want to find new opportunities, but that also allows you to, one, keep more on the table to invest back in your business in other ways versus just always looking at every percentage. That's a deeper conversation for another day. Oh, I don't want to go get too much deeper in that the point of this video again is understanding all the roles I said before, right? Then when you have your manager, especially if you're starting off, know that this guy probably isn't going to be the guy that takes you to the promised land in most cases. If you're all starting off together and he's brand new, this guy is probably going to evolve to more of a day-to-day manager, right? If y'all are rolling successful where he's continuing to learn to get the business, but so you can accelerate and don't mess up a lot of things, you're going to have to find another manager, right? But if y'all can get that agreement and understanding starting off, then you can really talk about what that looks like. You can really avoid this person resenting you or feeling like, oh, so he thinks that other person's better than me or they're switching up. The right relationships won't be ruined by that, but it always helps to avoid that if you understand that from just ground zero. So know that and then know that the roles of your manager actually can entail getting you sales, getting you streams, developing fans, all that stuff, right? Traditionally, it was an even deeper stick in that, but now this might look like, hey, I know how to find the right marketer. If I can't do the marketing, I know how to find the right marketing, which is a huge, huge asset for the managers who know, yo, I know how to go find this other thing and filter to find the right marketer, right? I know how to go find anything that complements what I already do because you have to build a team and a manager who tries to do everything is gonna end up wasting the time, right? It's gonna feel like you're saving money on the front end, but long term, it's not gonna really work out. It just is what it is because this stuff takes a lot of people, right? When you get to certain levels, but even if it's not a lot of people in the sense of this massive team, it takes a lot of different skill sets and the amount of time to do each skill set well, even for somebody who has the ability to do each of them, is just not possible, right? I have to spend one time, a lot of my time in our business on a lot of things that I can do very well when there's some other things I can do very well that I can't do well because I have to focus on these other things and that's what it becomes to feel like as you start to grow, right? So those are a few things, particularly in management, and that's how they also can integrate to sales. Hey, booking agent and booking manager, that sells the tour, right? They sell and puts you on shows. The fan base, there's a lot of managers who actually grow your fan base, right? If not, you have to find a marketer to do so, but that managers often times the one who can best analyze a lot of these things or help you analyze a lot of these things. And then let me see, streams, I mean, that's a subset of marketing, right? And that's a byproduct. There's so many of these roles. This is such a deep category. We'll probably spend more time on it maybe with some managers or something like that, but the management is, music management is something that is going to evolve massively over the next five years and the artists who can get ahead of the game knowing that, yo, this is how you look at this situation versus going by the traditional model that does not work in today's model. You'll win, you'll have a happier manager, right? Y'all have a more fluid relationship and you'll be able to better navigate the indie space as you grow to then have a system that can then scale out when you actually blow up, right? But most people build systems that you get all these situations, you leave their manager or this artist switched up on me. They had a situation where the expectations and the system that was worked out just completely did not apply to a bigger level. So they had to leave their old situation because the team didn't understand. If you figure that out at the beginning, you don't have to go through that later, all right? So that's it for this video. I know it was a long-winded explanation in terms of management and six skills question, but management is something that artists do not understand enough based on the amount of bad situations artists are hitting me up about that I've heard again and again and again. So that's the answer to today's Ask Bramman, just another episode who are only gonna answer one question because of the length of it. However, keep those questions coming. I got a lot more of these coming soon and a lot of cool news that y'all will love to know about. Other than that, if you like this video, go ahead and like button. If you like it, might as well share it. And if you're not subscribed, you know what to do. Hit that subscribe button.


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Sunday morning, everybody. It is Sunday November 12th, I think. Let's see. Yes, 9.42am. I looked at my husband's work phone. Don't get excited. Anyway, he's over at the gym. I'm taking it easy with exercising right now because if he didn't watch my last vlog, my hips been bugging me. You know, I do have arthritis and whether it's the arthritis or I've pulled a muscle lifting up Junior because, you know, he's 27 pounds. I don't know but it is getting better slowly and you can see that I'm walking around. When I first get up in the morning now, it's still sore but once I start moving and get going, it feels relatively okay but yeah, I'm taking it easy on it. We don't want to go backwards. So I am going to just relax this morning now that I've done some chores and while Bob's at the gym, we do have to go grocery shopping at some point but I'm not sure we're going to do it today. We are babysitting. The kids have a date with friends, a kid list date with friends and so we're going to take Junior for a few hours this afternoon and maybe the dog. I don't remember if they said they were bringing the dog or not. So anyway, it is rainy again because of course I live in the land of much water otherwise known as Oregon but that's okay. I like the rain and I like the cold. I'm gonna sit down on the couch and play some YouTube in the background and work on a pair of gloves that I started last night. So let's get to it shall we? I'll be back. I would say good morning but it's just after lunch. It's Monday, November 13th and I've just been lazing the morning away. On the project list this week is finishing a pair of socks I started last night and I have a vacation slash art journal I need to make from our summer vacation to Virginia. That's gonna be an upcoming video. I also have some cleaning and reorganizing and purging to do up here in the art room so those are all on the list this week besides the duties of OMA and all of that stuff. So I'm taking the quiet moments when I can because yeah I also have to edit the vlog before Wednesday morning but you know all right that's it for the minute. I'll be back. You've heard of one of those days where you have lots of stuff to do but no motivation to do any of it? Yeah I think I'm gonna make myself do some of it anyway. I'll be back. I said earlier in that list of things I wanted to do that that was for the week right? I mean I got the journal finished and the video for it filmed which is amazing because I was really like kind of not wanting to do anything today but I didn't get anything else done. I'm gonna be lucky to clean the mess up. I didn't get the video vlog either now I've got this other video to edit so tomorrow when I'm not babysitting junior I will be doing that and I do think his picture showed up on the video a couple times because I had my phone out and he's on my phone on my wallpaper so I'm gonna have to anyway. Alrighty I'll be back. Good morning everybody. It's Tuesday morning November 14th and it's about 9 30 if a.m. I'm trying to get the vlog edited before junior gets here for babysitting so I've got the computer on and it's rendering right now. I do have the vacation journal video that I filmed yesterday to do yet. The SD card is loaded into the computer and ready to go but we've got to let the computer do this before I do that. So I think I'm going to just sit and relax a little bit not push it or the computer and if we get it done before he gets here cool if we don't I'll do it when he goes home you know and then we've got of course more stuff on the table I got my order from Little Knits in Seattle last night they were so sweet it looks like the whole staff wrote thank you all over the invoice when they were packaging the order that was so sweet I will link their website down below I got some Cascade Ario duo yarn which is I don't even remember I don't know it's up it was a pack of five skeins and let's see not only don't have any lights on I mean my glasses are far away okay let's at least put the glasses on okay 47 percent merino 31 percent alpaca 22 percent nylon and there is 240 yards per hank which should be enough for a beanie so I got one in this brown color I have two in this dark variegated gray and two in the lighter variegated gray came as a bundle for under 30 bucks all five Cascades we got Ella Ray DK merino superwash wool and this is in the color mantis dance it's a pretty green and there were five skeins of that in one bag and 260 yards per hank that's plenty enough to do a wearable for me and the last one we got was another cascade it's a 220 superwash 100 percent superwash wool and each one of these has 220 yards I got this pretty blue color is there a name on here somewhere nope there is color number 1944 but it's this pretty blue and I got five of those and it came all came yesterday so I need I need to put all that away and I still have this out from last week and then of course some patterns I think I have a bunch of cotton and I tried making a sweater with some of it and I you know I'm still thinking if I should frog the sweater I'll put a picture here not super happy how it turned out I don't think it's a pattern I think it's the yarn I'm gonna try the pattern again with something else but anyway I do think I'm gonna take my cotton yarn and I'm gonna make some crocheted baskets so I found this pattern from Yarnspirations website it's a Bernay crochet handy basket pattern so I think I'm going to yeah but I need to put like all these patterns away anyway none of it's gonna happen right now I'm gonna just sit and relax and have some water before junior gets here because yeah that's an all-encompassing of your attention thing when you're babysitting so alright I'll be back I should say the three projects I had this week that I wanted to get done were the video editing the travel vacation journal which I got done yesterday and that's one of the videos I need to edit and I have some cleaning and purging I want to do up here in the small bits bank and if I can get the video editing done today I don't really have a ton of errands that I have to run tomorrow and I have to go out on Friday anyway to take the daughter to the airport so I think tomorrow might be the cleaning day if I can get all the video editing done today so we'll see I'll be back it's just about six o'clock as you can see it's dark outside it's winter in the Pacific Northwest and many other places gets very dark very early anyway I did get all the video editing done today and got it loaded to the two channels which really shocks the crap out of me because part of it was done when he was on my lap but I had toys to distract him from what Omar was doing and he was such a good baby and allowed me to get it done and we stopped doing it at the appropriate time I was finished computer was done and he was chewing on my desk so I feared it was time to be done yeah so anyway but I got it done so I think tomorrow I think tomorrow I might not run any errands I think I'm gonna stay home I have some more rearranging and purging I want to do as I make peace with the art the arty crafty creative things I love to do and letting go of those I don't which at the at this point means reorganizing the bits bank which to be honest before I got to the point of realizing I don't really like that I went through the bits bank every now and then anyway because I put things away in a drawer and it's a way way and then I forgot I even have it and it's way past time to clean it out and get rid of stuff and I'd like to consolidate some things I have up on the pegboard wall above the bits bank put them maybe in the drawers and maybe if I can manage to put the stickers somewhere get those out of the closet because they do seem to be referring to them a lot and hang some of my yarn up on the wall I'd really like to do that so and some of my trims and stuff so we'll see it requires taking a lot of that apart we'll see we're gonna do that tomorrow and also I'm gonna work on my socks tomorrow those are my two things so anyway I think that's the plan if I do go anywhere it will just be like real quick to Dollar Tree but I don't think I need to do that so anyway I'm gonna go downstairs and get out said socks and do some crocheting Mr. Bob's in the meeting I can hear him talking and he still so he's still working and after that we'll have some dinner I'm not super hungry but I think I'll just have some soup or something and yeah that'll be good that will be good all right I'll be back it's just about 10 30 a.m. on Wednesday November 15th I think yes yes the 15th you know I've just had a quiet start to the day not mad about that just relaxing today although I did just get in trouble from the husband for moving all the furniture around by myself so that we could get our little robot vacuum hazel to clean the floors downstairs and he's not wrong yeah so I should have asked for help but you know I didn't I didn't want to interrupt him I knew he was working so there's that anyway we're gonna do some cleaning up here in our room and purging today but first I'm gonna just sit and relax now that I've gotten showered and dressed and I'm gonna have a snack and watch some more YouTube and then then we'll get going I'll be back okay you guys took me a couple hours but I got it done and I stopped agonizing over bits and pieces you know there were things in these drawers that I was never gonna use again that I collected to try it doesn't like them wasn't happy with them and you know I had some of them I hadn't touched since we moved into this house five years ago so I had to go and times are changing and every now and then I need to clean out and re-sort the bits bank anyway so it is not unusual for me to do this you've been around for a while you know that but anyway so now all of my stickers are here and my other small bits and pieces paper is in the closet which is where it should be I have journals out that I'm currently working with are on and we have sewing notions back up on the wall yay having them in a drawer was not working for me I did get rid of a couple of things that I was I'd already used most of it I don't need to save every scrap and my pigments because I do use those not only for watercolor but I've used them occasionally for dying fabric and then yarn I love my yarn collection so I'm really I'm really liking the way this turned out and yeah the only thing I did I had to fix was this drawer when I pulled it out it fell out and then it broke and I had to I had to put it back together and I just realized that it doesn't have a label I guess for the moment that's okay but those are all bookbinding threads and embroidery stuff so anyway so I'm pretty happy with that now I gotta decide do I want to do the dishes or do I want to crochet my socks well I don't want to do the dishes but I probably ought to we've been running that robot vacuum on and off all morning so I'm gonna wait until Bob's done with work and have him help me put the furniture back I got in a little trouble when I did it by myself this morning so there's that anyway let's go get the dishes done so I can come up here and crochet all right I'll be back now the leaves were just falling off the trees in the wind and of course as soon as I get the camera out it stops I don't know what that is all garbage it's like when I try to take pictures of birds you know they sit still until they see me and they fly away because why not all right time for dinner okay grandson and his mom have gone home I am helping get them to the airport tomorrow they're going out of town for the weekend and Bob is off tonight to my son Claude meeting so I'm gonna go for a walk it's not too dark yet but I do have a flashlight in my pocket I'm just gonna I'll make it a quick one and then come home and work on my socks I'm gonna work on a another new stitch I'm learning new stitches people because why not all right yeah let's go see what we can see it's kind of dark up but you never know I'll be back everybody it's just after 9 a.m. on Friday November 16 I don't even know hold on it was only a day off are we surprised anyway it is Friday no today's gonna be kind of a busy day I am headed out already this morning because I need to go pick up a few groceries it's family dinner night and one set of kids is headed out of town the other set of kids is busy but it's gonna be Bob and I and my dad so we are it's gonna be just the three of us well and the dog because we're dogs so I'm gonna go pick up some food this morning and then around lunchtime I have to help get Rebecca and baby junior over to the airport Bob might come with us I'm not sure he said something about it last night anyway and then and then just dinner time so which is plenty that's plenty of stuff for me to have on my plate today I have to know when to say when I just can't do days where I'm just like busy every five minutes of the entire day I can't do that so anyway in between I'll be working on my socks I have one more socks to stop one more socks one more sock to finish and then I'm gonna start on another sweater so there's that and I might simultaneously do sweater and afghan we'll see I've got like three afghans to do so yeah anyway that's it for the minute I've had two cups of coffee but I don't feel awake is it just me I write I'll be back hey guys so yes wearing my blanket coat I've got my hat I just made on and my gloves we're headed out for a walk it's just about eight o'clock my dad just went home from family dinner night it was just the three of us tonight which was fine I have a carousel I'm going to be doing for him a travel journal from his trip to Italy sorry it is dark outside so I'll be filming that for YouTube well for yeah for YouTube details detailed videos for patreon and that'll be something to look forward to anyway right now we're gonna go get a few quick steps in if you didn't hear we are dog sitting grand dog Lily while her parents are out of town and we're gonna go get a few quick steps in it is very cold but that's okay all right I'll be back everybody it's Saturday remember 18th I think something like that yeah we just got done picking up some free yarn for my local by nothing group we are now going to take numb nuts for a WALK numb nuts crazy pants yeah I do have to do the dishes today but we're gonna we're gonna put put that off a little bit and yeah deal with that first so anyway I'll be back it is 10 p.m. on Saturday and again I still don't know what date it is all the 18th yeah there you go I've been crocheting all day I can't say I'm mad about it we really didn't do much we went walking and picking up the free yarn this morning and the mr. Bob washed the cars but it's raining out now yeah so yeah well I mean anyway you know we did a couple small chores but we didn't do a whole lot and I can't say mad about it I started another Afghan that someone I already finished back there I'll put a picture of it here somewhere with some chunky bulky yarn I've been getting thrifted or gifted and a couple skeins that I bought inexpensively like at Walmart and yeah I love the way it's coming out anyway I like making scrap Afghans in case you didn't know that so thank now so I'm like sitting next to like this because obviously I like doing that too so you know so thank anyway that's it for this week it's been a fun one I do have some I think interesting videos coming up that I well I need to film it first but I think they'll be interesting and anyway so stay tuned if you want to support the free content here on YouTube and ready access to me chats with me a private YouTube channel with so many videos that you guys never see over here join my patreon think about it so anyway the link is down below don't forget to check out the video description for relevant links and if you have questions comments or concerns leave them down below and yeah like share and subscribe and go out and do something nice for yourself because you deserve it I'm going to finish my puzzles for the day the night night and I don't know what we're getting up to tomorrow but that's for next week's vlog bye guys see right goodbye


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Alright, Paleo, I want to talk about Paleo. So this is a question from one of the guys in the audience here. So he has taken on this view that Paleolithic man basically had it right in terms of because basically it evolved in a particular way, right? So we evolved in a particular environment, and so from a biological perspective we evolved to eat the food that was available to us at that time. We evolved as hunter-gatherers, so that would suggest the food we evolved to eat is meat berries and nuts, something like that. Maybe some fruits and maybe a little bit of grass or some kind of vegetable, but basically that's it. Our feet evolved to walk barefoot. They didn't evolve to have heels for women or any kind of like soles like in a shoe should be just flat because that's how we evolved, right? What else? We evolved not to wear clothes. So you shouldn't wear clothes because you're not getting enough vitamin D because we evolved to be basically pretty much naked, so we can absorb as much vitamin D as we can, but he is wearing a shirt, so he obviously doesn't take his Paleo too seriously. And he's sitting in an office away from the sun, which is not good. What else? It's food, shoes, yeah, I mean, we evolved to only wear animal skins, right? It's a cotton should be out, shouldn't wear any cotton, and certainly not vaccinate yourself or get any medicines because we certainly didn't evolve to that. Okay, so I'm character, I'm making a character out of this because he doesn't actually believe all that, but I'm trying to extrapolate, right? So look, this is my view of Paleo because I read some stuff on Paleo and I eat a moderate form of a Paleo diet, not really, but because I got into this diet before I knew what Paleo was. So I arrived at the conclusion I should eat this diet before I knew what Paleo was based on scientific evidence, not based on Paleo, which I don't think is based on science. To the extent that there's something to be learned from Paleo man, we should learn it. But the idea that evolution evolves us to be optimal is just unscientific. You're evolved to survive, not to thrive, not to flourish, not to live to be 100, not to be optimal. Evolution is not about optimization. Evolution is about your ability to reproduce at minimal cost. That's it. So at minimal amount of energy, how much can you reproduce? And if that means you only live to be 49, that's fine. Like women, once they reach menopause, are useless for evolution. And I know they tell just so stories about being grandmothers and the importance of that, but that's bullshit, right? Evolution doesn't work that way. So women are useless after 49 according to Paleo. So men should just have multiple wives or serial young wives, and the younger the better, because then you can have more kids. And all you should do is reproduce. So you're wasting your seed by not constantly reproducing from an evolutionary perspective. And it's probably unhealthy. You should probably have more sex and probably have more kids, because I just don't buy the whole thing. Again, it goes back to this idea that evolution is not about optimization. It's not an optimization, Mikado. It's optimizing around what you don't want to optimize. It's not optimizing about your flourishing.  It's optimizing about around your ability to reproduce at the lowest cost from a biological perspective possible. I don't want to optimize around that. I'm not interested. I had two kids not having any more. I've got a wife who's over 40, maybe I shouldn't say, but over 40, and I have no intention of marrying a younger woman or not marrying a young woman, just having kids with a younger woman. No interest in any of that, right? So I'm not, I don't want to be an animal, right? I've divorced myself from being that kind of animal. We have free will, which means we are free to optimize. And there's no reason we cannot use science to optimize to make ourselves better. Now shoes is a good example, right?  You walked on rocks and stones and ground and sand on many, many pretty bad surfaces. You didn't walk in concrete, on tile and carpets. So why should you apply that, which you don't have anymore, gravel and sand and dirt and all that, to the modern world where you work on carpets and on concrete? The question is, not what a paleo man do. The question is, what is best given a biological structure to weigh when walking on concrete? Or, and what if it is, do we walk up? And I don't know, I like those Nike shoes that weigh almost nothing, that are shaped to fit your foot perfectly. They give you no, what do you call it, impact to hurt your back, because when you wear completely flat, thin shoes, every time you hit that pavement, your back is going, which is not true a paleo man, because he didn't, he walked differently, walked on different surfaces. Everything was different. They say you should eat meat, right? Only eat meat today. You shouldn't eat anything else, but the meat today is completely different than it was the paleo man. The animals were different. We basically, I mean, no cow today is genetically the same as a cow from 15,000 years ago. Almost no animal. And as you literally go hunting in the wild, and what's wild anymore? Most of the wild is being cultivated by human beings, so most of the wild is controlled. But all the cows are different. So you say, okay, but it should be grass fed. It doesn't matter, the cows different, the genetic makeup, the cows different. We basically genetically engineered cows to be different than they, what used to be, right? So you can't recreate paleo anything. So the question is not what did paleo man do. The question is what's best for you. Now, I happen to believe that, and this is a very weak belief because I don't think there's enough science to justify this or anything else. I think diet is something we know very little about. I happen to think that meat is not the enemy. Meat is probably your friend.  That the damage, health is probably done more by sugar and by simple carbs than anything else. But I don't claim this as scientific knowledge, and that's why I don't advocate for it because I don't know. I eat that way. I try to minimize my sugar intake. I try to minimize simple carbs because I feel better when I eat that way and because I've been doing it for a long time and it seems to work and I keep the weight off and I'm basically healthy. So that's why I do it. And it seems like there's some scientific evidence to suggest that, but it's not hugely strong, right? It's not massively strong. The Mediterranean diet seems to do very, very well in studies and Mediterranean diet is not a fat-centric diet. It's much more a vegetable-centric diet. So you've got to follow the science. And that's true in all aspects of life. The idea that Paleo got it right and we've been spoiling it since then is just simply wrong. It's strong evidence that Paleo Man had real bad cases of arthritis, that all that walking on rocks was probably not good for their knees and not good for their, you know, and all that lifting and moving stuff around was not good for their elbows. And their life was not as happy and wonderful and successful. And then there's the whole issue that Mark raises here about the spiritual side of life, right? They didn't have Beethoven. So I'm willing to give up a few years of life in order to have Beethoven and Michelangelo and Hugo and have that spiritual side of life that they didn't, right? Because it was still pretty primitive. So I think that you have to step away from these ideas that, again, this idea that evolution is optimal, it's not. This idea that nature cannot be improved upon, which is an idea that exists out there. Why can't nature be improved upon? In what respect can't nature be improved upon? If I could take a drug to make me live an extra hundred years, of course, I would take it. We're taking the vaccine, right? If somebody tells me I need, you know, if I think I need more vitamins, then I'll take the vitamins, even though I'm not getting them naturally. I don't want to recreate Paleolithic life. I think it's horrible. I mean, I couldn't zoom. I couldn't talk to you guys. You know, I couldn't do all the things I do on my computer. You know, I love modern life. Why would we think that our clothes, our food, everything around us wouldn't change given that our environment is changed? We changed our environment. So when we changed our environment, wouldn't we also have to change the way we eat, the way we sleep, all of that to accommodate the fact that we changed our environment? I think it negates the whole idea. I mean, a lot of the Paleo stuff negates the whole idea of free will. This idea that we can change our environment. We don't just have to give in to our environment. And so we can change our environment. And therefore, we can change, for example, we build concrete. We build streets. So now we can wear nikes. So once we change our environment, we have to change how we as a biological entity interact with that environment. Because if we treat concrete as a tree, that's not going to work well, right? That's a contradiction. So I just don't, I guess my conclusion is I don't buy it. Shaz butter asks, I gather that grass-fed beef is a bit better because cows are better able to digest grass. Healthier animals equals better meat. Is there any truth to this? I think so. I think there's truth to it. Do I know so? No. So the idea is that because cows evolved to eat grass, they're healthier. The composition of the fat that cows have is healthier. I think there's more omega-3 in the fat of cows when they're a grass-fed than there is when they're grain-fed. When they're grain-fed, they tend to have more omega-6s. Does that mean we should only eat grass-fed beef? Does it mean we can eat non-grass-fed beef, but also supplement with omega-3? I don't know, and the problem is that not enough science is devoted to figuring these things out because there's too much, I don't know, what is it, mythology and there's too much religion associated with diet, the religion of various diets. And you have to just look at it all from the perspective of fact and science. What work? What actually is going on? And the problem with nutrition is we still have a very primitive knowledge of how our bodies work as amazing as that sounds. If you know anything about medicine, they still don't know how our body actually works, how things interact. They know very little about cell biology, how cell biology is impacted by diet, how different nutrients affect things. We're still, I don't know, decades away from having a good understanding of physiology, just the basic physiology, like the whole idea of all this bacteria in the gut and the bacteria in the gut actually having an impact on hormones and having an impact on all kinds of metabolic systems in the body is new. It's just in the last few years, and yet it's a major discovery and has major implications, and we don't understand them yet.  We know so little about the easy stuff, i.e. our body. We know even less about our brain and how it works and the structure of it and how it deals with different things. We know a lot less about that than we know about the body. So, yet people make very strong claims about both the body and the mind. So, Bué, about biological claims, strong biological claims about things we don't know enough about yet. There goes my late again. So, I'm suspicious. You know, you need to make strong claims, you need strong evidence, and there's just, biology's hard, because it's complex systems that interact with one another. They have what do you call it, properties that the sum of the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. That is, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. They have properties that are unique to the whole, right? Consciousness, for example, free will, that you can't pinpoint as just the sum of the parts. So, there's a lot of complexity here and there's a lot to think about. Okay, James asked, do you think that meat will continue to rise in price? What do you think made people want to start the grass-fed boom?  I love poke belly. Hard to get in Israel, but no, you can get in Israel, but poke belly is delicious.  That's the question. Belly, generally, is pretty tasty because it's fatty. Fat is where the taste comes from. So, yes, I do eat poke belly. I love poke belly. But, and I eat it in many different forms. What do you think made people want to start the grass-fed boom? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it must have started before paleo. But I think it's the paleo movement and the anti-carb movement that really, you know, they're going back to nature, the organic movement. All of that kind of spurred the grass-fed, the grass-fed stuff. Do you think- What we need today, what I call the new intellectual, would be any man or woman who is willing to think. Meaning, any man or woman who knows that man's life must be guided by reason, by the intellect, not by feelings, wishes, wins or mystic revelations. 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The best double majors for math degrees, that's what we're going to be talking about today. This was a highly requested video. I get these questions all the time. Shane, should I double major in this and that? And so I decided to make an entire series on this. But before we get into that, let's go ahead and gently tap the like button in order to defeat the evil YouTube algorithm. On this channel, we talk about personal finance, college degrees, careers and opportunities that are going to lead you to success. And we also go over how you can avoid some of the common financial traps that so many people fall for. Now, if you're new here and you haven't done it already, which about 80% of you haven't, go ahead and hit that subscribe button and ring the notification bell so that you never miss out. So there are a lot of degrees out there that wouldn't really make sense for you to double major in. They don't go together all that well, and it probably would just be kind of a waste of time for you to take both of those sets of classes at once. However, there are some exceptions here. There's some degrees that go together really well. Now, when it comes to math related degrees, in my opinion, they do combine well with a lot of other types of degrees. So for instance, you could double major in mathematics and economics, and they make around $59,000 a year starting out in 103,000 in mid-career pay, whereas economics makes around $58,000 a year starting out in 109,000 in mid-career pay. So one career path that you could go down is you could become an economist, of course, and they make around $105,000 a year. It is growing at 14%, which is much faster than average. However, usually you're going to have to get a master's level degree in order to get a job as an economist. Now, economics is definitely one of the better, you know, social science, liberal arts types of degrees. However, one of the weaknesses, especially depending on what program you go to, is some of them are not very good when it comes to teaching you the math side of things. So it might be a good idea for you to either take extra classes in, minor in, or double major in mathematics. Statistics might be another one that would be a good idea for you to double major in as well. Now, I will say here that a mathematics degree is going to be pretty difficult on its own. So for a lot of people, double majoring in mathematics and economics would probably be a little bit too much and I wouldn't recommend doing it. However, if you look into it and you figure that there's a career path that you want to go down that this would actually make sense, this could be a really good option for you. And when I did the video on the degrees that create the most millionaires, economics did actually come in at number three on the list. I think the reason for this is because if you graduate with an economics degree, first of all, you're probably going to be making a lot better investment decisions. And most importantly, you're probably going to start investing at an earlier age. Most people don't start investing until they're in their 30s, a lot of the time, even in their 40s. And so if you start investing in your early 20s, you're way ahead of the curve. I've done videos on this before, but if you just invest $10 to $15 a day into your Roth IRA until retirement, you will easily become a millionaire. Now, on top of that, a lot of the time people who study economics are going to tend to be a little bit entrepreneurial and start their own business. And if you are able to start a successful business, you'll probably make quite a bit more than somebody who just has a salary job. Next on the list, we're going to be talking about mathematics degrees combined with technology degrees. So a really cool example here would be computer science and mathematics. With a computer science degree, you would expect to make around $70,000 a year starting out and $116,000 in mid career pay. Whereas with a mathematics degree, you would expect to make around $59,000 a year starting out and $103,000 in mid career pay. Now, one career path you might go down is becoming a computer and information research scientist, also known as a data scientist, and they make around $122,000 a year. There's 32,000 jobs and it's growing at a ridiculous 15% which is much faster than average. Now, mathematics is a pretty good degree on its own. It's definitely viable. However, one of the problems that you commonly see people running into is it's a little bit too theoretical and hard to apply those mathematics skills to real life. It's not something like engineering where sure you're learning a lot of math and stuff like that, but they're teaching you how you can apply that to real life very easily. Now, of course, this is going to differ depending on what program you're in, what college you go to, etc, but a lot of mathematics majors actually end up going into the technology industry and working as software developers. And of course, their mathematics skills would be more advanced than someone who just got a computer science degree. And so they would be able to bring something unique to the table. Now, Zip Recruiter did this skills index that I talk about a lot in my videos. And if you look at the skills index, which basically just rates skills on how valuable they are on the market, AKA how much businesses are willing to pay people who have these skills from one to 100, you'll see that the top of the list is basically just littered with technology related skills, software engineering, programming, software deployment, application development, web services skills. And I know that it's pretty much a meme at this point that I mentioned computer science at least once every single video, but there's a reason for that because the skills that you learn when you do computer science are extremely valuable on the market right now. Now, you're still going to have the same problem here where this is going to be very difficult for you to double major. And then some schools and some programs are going to make that much easier for you.  So you do want to keep that in mind, of course, but this one can be a pretty good option in the right situation. Number three on the list is going to be a mathematics degree plus a science degree. So this is one that I got asked about before, would it be a good idea for you to get a double major in physics and mathematics? Well, a physics degree, you would make around $62,000 a year starting out and 113,000 in mid career pay. Whereas with a mathematics degree, you'd make around $59,000 a year starting out and 103,000 in mid career pay. Now, I think the reason that the physics degree ranks a little bit better on here is just because it's a little bit more practical. Again, sometimes with mathematics, it can be a little more theoretical and focus on stuff that's hard for you to apply to the real world. Whereas physics is basically the science and mathematics of the real world. Now, one career path you might go down is becoming a physicist, of course, and they make around $122,000 a year. There's 20,000 jobs available and it's growing at 7%, which is faster than average. However, you're generally going to have to get a doctoral level degree in order to become a physicist. Now, one thing I would say here is not only would this be very difficult, physics might actually be the most difficult major out there. And then when you combine that with math, which is probably top, you know, 20 most difficult majors, it's going to be very hard for you to double major in these. However, there are some geniuses out there that could probably do it very easily. With that being said, it would also be somewhat redundant as well. You'd probably learn a lot of the same skills doing a physics degree as you would doing a math degree. So there might be a very specific career path where this double major would make sense. But for the most part, for most people watching this video, it probably wouldn't be the best option. Now, one thing I will say about mathematics skills in general is they're probably some of the most valuable out there. They're up there with technology and business skills when it comes to, you know, the things that really do help you get paid really well on the market. And on top of that, I think mathematics related skills are pretty much future proof. They're probably not going to be automated. For instance, physicists have about a 10% chance of being automated. And to be honest with you, I think that's on the high side, it's probably more like a 0.01% chance. And even if on the off chance, you became a physicist and it was automated somehow, which I don't see how that would even be possible. The skills that you learn as a physicist or a mathematician would be pretty easily transferable into all different types of jobs. Next one on the list, number four is going to be a mathematics degree plus another mathematics degree. So a great example of this one would be double majoring in mathematics and statistics. With this double major, you would expect to make around $59,000 a year starting out and $110,000 in mid-career pay. Now, if you went down the career path of becoming a mathematician or a statistician, you'd make around $92,000 a year. There's 45,000 jobs available and it's growing at an absolutely ridiculous 33%, which is much, much faster than average. Now, according to BLS math occupations in general are growing at around 27% over the next 10 years, which is almost 10 times higher than average. I believe the only other type of occupation that's growing faster is health related careers. And then math related occupations have a median annual income of $90,000 a year, which is over double the median annual wage of all occupations in general. So I think you guys get the idea here. Math as a skill, math as an occupation, math as a degree is highly valued. The only problem is that sometimes the skills that you learn can be a little bit theoretical, and so getting your first job might be a little bit difficult, but once you get your foot in the door, you get some work experience, it'll probably be much easier for you to get your second and third and fourth, et cetera. However, a lot of the time companies have the philosophy of basically just hiring the smartest people and then teaching them how to do the job later on. You see this is very common in the technology industry, as well as finance, for instance.  And speaking of hardworking, math does consistently come in as one of the most difficult degrees out there and mathematics related degrees in general are pretty difficult. So for instance, on this list, mathematics came in as the 13th most difficult degree and statistics was the 17th most difficult. Next on the list is going to be my favorite combination of all, which is going to be a mathematics degree and a business degree. Now, there's honestly so many different possibilities here and it's such a good combination that they've pretty much just made a bunch of dual degrees. So you really don't even need a double major a lot of the time because there's already dual degrees that exist. So one example of that would be a quantitative business analysis degree where you start off making around $67,000 a year and mid-career pay is $136,000. Now, business degrees in general, in my opinion, make the best double majors for a few different reasons. First of all, business degrees are extremely flexible and they're useful just about no matter what career path you go down. So for instance, just about every company out there in every industry and all kinds of different occupations are hiring people that have business degrees. If you get a business degree and you think you're going to become like a financial analyst, for instance, and then, you know, a few years down the line, you decide, I don't really want to be a financial analyst, it's very easy for you to switch career paths and go into something else. And this is why they make such good combinations with other types of degrees. Getting a business degree can be really synergistic pretty much combined with almost any other type of degree. So one career path you might go down if you combined a business degree with a mathematics degree is you might become a computer network architect and they make around $112,000 a year. There's 160,000 jobs available and it's growing at 5% which is faster than average. But there's honestly so many different options that you can do with both of these types of degrees because math can be used in just about any industry out there and then business can also be used in just about any industry or any business or any skill or any type of occupation as well. So the combination of these two degrees is extremely flexible and it will probably serve you no matter what career path you go down. You know, there's that old saying, you make plans and God laughs. And you know, there's the other saying it's like the best laid plans of mice and men. Everyone can make a good plan and I definitely urge that you do that. But realistically a lot of the time your plans are not going to work out exactly as you envision them. And so it's nice to be able to have a degree that's extremely flexible so you can pretty much use it no matter what career path you decide to go down. And then the last reason why I think business related degrees make such a good combination with other types of degrees and I know I'm probably going to get some angry comments down below for this, but business related degrees are not going to be as objectively difficult as a lot of the ones on this list. I know everybody has their own strengths and I know, you know, everything's subjective, but realistically business related degrees are not going to be as hard as engineering or mathematics or health degrees or technology degrees.  They were pretty much studying all the time, whereas a lot of the business majors had a much better time that seemed like they were always partying or doing something fun. So business kind of is what you make of it. You could probably go to college for four years and learn absolutely nothing. So you want to make sure that you're actually learning what you're, you know, supposed to be learning in school. But at the same time, I think it's realistic for you to consider double majoring in a business degree just because it's not going to be nearly as difficult as some of the other ones. Now, because of the fact that they're for the most part a little bit easier than other types of degrees, a lot of people tend to bag on them. But I've talked about this in other videos quite a bit. Business degrees, when you look at the numbers tend to do extremely well. Not only when it comes to salary, but if you look at regret, for instance, business degrees are the second least regretted type of degree. Only about 15% of people who get business degrees regret them. And the reason for that is because they're too general. Mathematics related degrees, on the other hand, are actually regretted the least. Only about 12% of the time. And the reason for that regret is because they're too stressful. So this is a really great combination pretty much no matter what way you look at it. And number five on the list would be a mathematics degree plus any degree that you're interested in. Math degrees for the most part are going to be really good on their own. They might be a little bit too theoretical, again, depending on what classes you're taking and what program you're going to. In that case, you would probably want to get extra work experience, you know, do internships, maybe do a side project and make sure that you're networking, et cetera. But for the most part, you're probably not going to have that hard of a time finding a job if you get a mathematics degree. In terms of how much money you earn over a lifetime, math related degrees do come in second on the list behind engineering, and they earn around $3.1 million over a lifetime. The average for all majors and all occupations is around $2.4 million. So that's quite a bit higher than average. And you can see that if you get a math degree, you can go into just about any type of profession and you'll still earn pretty decent money. So one test that I like to do is to go to a site like monster.com and then type in the degree name in order to see how many of the job listings have that as a keyword. So for instance, when you type in computer science degree, you see that 141,000 job listings pop up that have that in the description. And when you type in something like anthropology degree, which is kind of not one of the better degrees out there, unfortunately, only about 829 job listings pop up. When you type in mathematics degree, around 68,000 job listings pop up. That's much, much higher than average. This isn't a perfect test by any means, but it's a good sign that there's a lot of jobs out there that would like to hire someone who has a math degree. So let's say that you're extremely interested in a degree like anthropology, for instance, where you're probably not going to be able to find a job as an anthropologist, but it's something that you're really passionate about, so you want to learn about it. You could maybe consider double majoring in anthropology, as well as mathematics, and then you could take a lot of the anthropology classes on the side while you're getting your mathematics degree. Although the anthropology degree probably isn't going to help you too much when it comes to getting your first job, some of the soft skills that you learn like critical thinking, communication and formulating an argument might be extremely useful to you in the future. And I think that a lot of these degrees in the social sciences and the liberal arts do teach you valuable skills. It's just that unfortunately they're not valued on the market, meaning companies don't necessarily want to hire people who have these skills, but that doesn't mean that it's not still going to be very valuable for you to know these skills in real life. For instance, I think all the time that I spent studying history has helped me to be as successful as I am today, which I'm not very successful, but it's helped me to get to this point. It might not have directly helped me.  Let me give you a job. Let me give you a million dollars. But indirectly it helped me quite a bit. But honestly, I think the next one on the list might be good for most people, which would be to consider maybe just not double majoring. The truth is math is good enough on its own and you probably don't need to double major in a different type of degree in order to make yourself look good enough to get a job. Depending on what program you go to, double majoring can be extremely difficult. And, you know, some people might have trouble getting their math degree done in four years. So if you double major, maybe you end up spending five or six years in school. To me, that's definitely not worth it. I think you should try to get through school, get your bachelor's and four years max. Much better for you would be to come up with a plan and figure out what goals you have, you know, what career paths that you might want to go down and then talk to people who are in those career paths, reverse engineer the steps and figure out what steps you need to take in order to get there. Doing this will make it very, very clear to you exactly what types of activities that you should be doing in order to secure a job after you graduate. I know a lot of people put down in the comments, Shane, should I triple major in this and this and this? And realistically, it's probably not going to increase your chances of getting a job all that much. Much more likely is when you talk to people who are in these different careers, they're going to tell you that the most important thing you should do is to learn skills, get real life work experience by either getting a job or interning. And then also another important thing is for you to network. But of course, that's going to be completely different depending on what degree you're going for and what career path you're trying to get into. For instance, if you're a computer science major, it's a good idea for you to do some projects on the side so that you can show people and interviews what your skills are and what languages you know and frameworks you know, et cetera. Now, of course, there's probably going to be a few exceptions here. Maybe you talk to somebody in the career path that you're going down and they tell you, hey, no, that's a great idea. You should definitely get a math degree and a business degree combined or maybe a math degree and a computer science degree. Then in that case, definitely go for it. But most of the time, I think you're kind of going to be wasting your time a little bit. I remember when I was back in undergraduate and I was going down the health track, there would be these people who would join like 10 different organizations and they thought that that was going to help them get a job. So they'd have like 10 different positions, they'd be like a treasurer and one organization and a vice president and another one, and then like a liaison and another one. And to be honest with you, they wouldn't do a very good job in any one of the positions just because they had like 10 different positions. So how could they? And so I saw people doing this and I was like, okay, I got to do it as well.  And realistically, most of the leadership positions didn't help me at all. I could have just joined one or two organizations, done a really good job with the leadership positions. And that would have been just as impressive as me joining 10 different organizations. 99% of the time when business managers and hiring managers see that you have like 20 different positions on your resume or your CV, they're not going to be all that impressed. And for the most part, the same thing is going to be true when it comes to double majoring. Now, of course, there's always going to be a few exceptions here and there, like I said, but for the most part, you really want to make sure to do your research so that you're not wasting your time.  With that being said, there's a super exciting project that I've been working on. My goal is to basically make the best list of college degrees ranked in the most important areas, things like salary, job satisfaction, demand, et cetera. And right now, as of posting this video, I have version 1.1 posted down in my Patreon. This is an opportunity for you to get early access to it. I'm hoping that I can finish it within the next six months to a year, but I really want to make sure that I do this right. I actually did hire someone to help me create it just because of the fact that I needed somebody to bounce ideas off of. But yeah, I'm super excited about that. And I'm also going to be putting other things down in my Patreon like my stock investment portfolio as well. 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Our final speaker for closing remarks, Dr. Eric Green, the director of NHGRI will now address us. I'm not really the final speaker. I'm just here to just a very brief wrap up. It's been a terrific symposium and I don't want to keep people from lunch. I would make the observation. I can't believe we just had a panel discussion with Minolas and he barely got a word in edgewise. So I'm actually worried about him now. So the second thing, I had meetings this morning and I tuned into a couple of the talks between them and what I really wanted to do, but didn't arrange. I wanted my phone to go off about now so I could hand it to Ross and say that it's his mother calling. Because I did catch that part of his, it was a terrific talk that I heard the last part of and then heard the thing about the phone. But I just wanted to make really three comments. First, I wanted to thank the obviously all the folks that participated in this, including those among my staff that organized it, but also all the speakers. I mean, this has been terrific. And I think as I predicted what happened, you should have been overwhelmed by the amount of impressive data that's been generated by modern code and it really gives you new views. I think the theme of this, I think we're just sort of new views of genome function. The complexity makes you sort of awestruck. It also should motivate us to recognize that the work is far from done. That just is what we've discovered in the last handful of years I predict we'll be discovering for decades to come similar complexities. The second point I really wanted to make was that it really illustrated something that Elise introduced in her talk. And that is that modern code by design, like encode and like many of the things NHGRI does, really is a community resource. And I think what's particularly gratifying is watching members of the community, some of which were our speakers, really embrace this as a community resource. And I wrote down several of them said, all of a sudden I looked at modern code data and dot dot dot and then interplayed it with the kinds of studies they were doing. And I think this is exactly accomplishing of what we sought to do with projects like that. And I just think we illustrated it just in the most highlighted kind of way in some of the talks we heard at the symposium. But I guarantee you if you follow literature already or you certainly follow it in the future, you're gonna see this plane over and over again. And we're encouraging these investigators and these consortium to make those connections, to facilitate it and it even relates to how the databases are portrayed and so forth. But I really do believe that this community resource model is the right one and it is absolutely bearing fruit already and will continue to. And the last thing I really wanna say is, please again, I mentioned this, we are video recording this and we know from the numbers already that there's many more people watching this live than are here in the auditorium. Hundreds of people are watching this live. But what we know from experience is that by video archiving this and then making it available through our Genome TV channel on YouTube that this plays out in many, many people's computers for many months to come. And by that, I also wanna encourage all of you who have sat here and watched these talks or anybody listening now to please spread the word among trainees, postdocs, graduate students, other members of your faculty and elsewhere about these talks. It'll probably be a couple, maybe a week or two before we get them posted and video archiving available. But once they are, you know, this is a great resource and we know that probably thousands and thousands of people will watch these talks. And so, but I also hope people will get the word out about them. So with that, I will draw this symposium to a close. I wish everybody safe travels. If you're even walking outside of this building, stay cool. It's a crazy hot day out there today. But I hope everyone gets home safely wherever your travels might bring you. Thank you very much.