Hello everyone, welcome to this CUBE Conversation. I'm your host, John Furrier here in the Palo Alto studios of theCUBE. Today we're joined by Aptio, who's in the news for the big acquisition, multi-billion dollar acquisition by IBM. They'll be part of the AWS savings in the cloud event on July 25th, the New York City. A physical event at the AWS offices will be covering the theme of only paying for what you need with AWS cost optimization. It's a physical event. The link below if you want to check it out. The CUBE will be at the event and we'll be partnering with the folks there. And today we're joined by one of those partners, Aptio's Jonathan Straus, the director of strategic solutions for Aptio in the news with the big acquisition. Jonathan, welcome to the CUBE Conversation. Thanks for being here, appreciate it. So busy weekend for you guys over there, the big news on the acquisition all over the news. Again, validation for what we're going to talk about here, but pretty exciting stuff. You guys working in burning the midnight oil over the weekend. Absolutely busy times to be sure and super exciting. I think everybody at Aptio is just incredibly excited about the news and the opportunity to partner with our friends over at IBM. It's been a great relationship the last few years with some partnering and looking forward to taking that to the next level. Well, congratulations to you and the entire team. It really is validation of the whole cloud, financial ops management, whatever you want to call it. It's been a best practice as kind of the recession loom, but it's still a tailwind in the cloud. You guys have helped thousands of organizations on this journey. I call it right sizing, refactoring. There's a lot of stuff going on in the cloud native next-gen cloud that's looking really strong. And the maturation of FinOps as a strategy and an operational practice has been ongoing. Tell us what you guys are seeing right now. Obviously, IT, been around for a while, AI, a big part of it. What's the role of FinOps playing in this whole next-gen marketplace? Yeah, it's a great question. As engineers now have the ability to procure without having to go through IT, without having to go through procurement, it's really changed the game as far as how businesses, how fast and how quickly they can deliver value out to their internal and external stakeholders, but it's also provided some additional risk, right? For years, you had organizations with on-premise infrastructure was relatively easy to purchase. You bought it in big batches. You depreciated that over time. If you're a CFO, your costs are relatively fixed from that perspective. Now all of a sudden you're billed by the second or by the millisecond, and these workloads can spike incredibly fast. And so really having some controls in place and understanding around how the developers and how the financial aspects come together, it's really the premise of FinOps. And we're super excited how we help our customers with that, with AppDeal Cloudability. Dave Vellante and I were talking, preparing for our podcast this week. And I'll say to your company in the news, we were discussing how people are looking at this as not just a cost-cutting opportunity, because that's really kind of just more right-sizing. It's also the investment operationally because more complexity of this next gen abstraction layer called gen AI, whatever you want to call it, is showing that these next apps are coming. And the cloud is great for more capacity at any time, but the bills go up. It's like an open checkbook. So predictability is huge. Flexibility got that with the cloud. People are trying to understand this. This is kind of the role of FinOps. Could you take a minute to explain how AppDeal is intersecting in that? How are you guys helping customers? What specifically is the reason why you guys are winning so much right now? Yeah, I think to the point that you mentioned, cost-cutting is just one component there. And really the question is, it's a means to what end? If my cost is going up in the public cloud, if my services are increasing, if my spend is increasing, well, what if that's because I'm helping more customers than ever before. And so being able to take the conversation to the next level, I think is really why we're winning a lot of business. Looking at actual telemetry data, looking at the actual products and customers, what we call unit economics, right? Really being able to understand, hey, while my total spend has gone up, actually because of this cloud native architecture, I'm actually able to service my customers at a cost per unit less expensive today than it was six months ago or 12 months ago. That's a metric that the C-suite is always interested in, right? How can they be more efficient and drive those operational costs down while learning how to reinvest and invest into the business? So I think as our customers think about not just cutting costs, but really understanding where can my dollars be distributed? Where can they be invested to bring those next generation technologies to bear for the market so we can generate some revenue? One of the things I think you guys have done well on an AppTO and reason why I think you guys are getting all the value creation going on with the acquisition is you've changed the game on what cost reporting means. You kind of highlighted that, can expand on that notion because one of the things that we hear about in the cloud is operating leverage. No more CapEx, you got OPEX. So when you get that operating leverage going, but it costs something to get something, you're seeing value scale differently now. So AI is only going to make that more accelerated when you think about scaling up with some of these AI technologies to free up more people. So yeah, cost may be going up as a factor of what? Can you expand more on this change in cost reporting? Yeah, there's a couple of different aspects at play here. If you think about sort of infrastructure costs 10, 15 years ago, introducing that first virtualization layer of virtual machines, it really made it a lot more difficult for folks really to understand who's consuming what, right? And if I can't attribute costs to a product or a line of business, it's really hard to understand my profitability. It's really hard to understand where I'm going to invest in new technologies, new services or even consultants from the outside, right? So then as we start to move to the public cloud, it's not where does the data come from that becomes a challenge. It's really a challenge of scale, right? So if you rewind seven, eight years ago, as folks have started to adopt public cloud, we start seeing these bills come in with, you know, tens of millions of rows of data on a daily basis, right? And so now the challenge is, how do I parse that data? And folks have gotten better at that over time and they've started to solve that challenge. And so now what we're really seeing is that next level of abstraction. So especially with technologies like containerization, it's even harder to get to the data to understand who's actually using which resource, what percentage of that resource is being used. This is critical when we're trying to understand what's the cost of this product that we're bringing to market against its profitability? Is this a business I want to continue to invest in? Is this a technology or an underlying platform that I want to continue to invest in? So our ability to surface those costs, regardless of whether it's on-prem infrastructure or whether you only have one or two layers of abstraction from a virtualization perspective, I think that's really where customers need help. And that's where we're seeing a lot of value as folks continue to invest in the FDA platform. I think I like that angle better because it's cost optimization, not cost cutting. You're optimizing your infrastructure. And now with all the preparation for the next gen scale with say AI, for instance, a lot of people want to tap into that. So I have to ask you, if you had to explain Aptio's expertise in cloud cost optimization, what's the pitch?  What's the core competency and how does that translate into value for us as an organization? Yeah, I really think about challenges in a couple of different areas that we handle, right? And I think about the FinOps lifecycle of inform, optimize and operate. So as we just laid out here just a second ago, there's a terrible time that we're dealing with right now providing information out to the edge, out to the lines of business, out to their product owners internally and externally. And so our ability to parse through not only the cloud service provider details, but also the telemetry data, some of the other operational data to provide that visibility and actually get it out to the edge, right? Democratizing that data so that people can make a better decision. That's phase one, right? That's informed, right? As we move into that optimization layer, we really think about two different levers that folks can pull. You've articulated that a couple of times today already, right? There's the infrastructure optimization angle. There's also an angle around how you procure those resources, right? Are you committing the right levels in the right timing, right? So helping our customers not only optimize the individual resources, but also thinking about some of this purchase instruments whether it's a reserved instance or a savings plan. And then that operate phase is really doing that at scale. And that's really where integration into the other telemetry tools, day two infrastructure tools, security tools, et cetera, workflow tools. That's where a lot of our customers sort of in any run maturity state really start to get a lot of value is us integrating with their systems that they use on a day-to-day basis and automating to your point on the AI that automating a lot of those repetitive tasks. I like that angle on tapping into the telemetry from other places. This brings in the whole data, I won't say orchestration, but data integration, multiple data sets, you mentioned automation. How much of a focus is that for you guys? Cause it seems like that seems to be a secret sauce for you guys, bringing in multiple data sets in a telemetry in from different environments or systems. Can expand on that if you don't mind. Yeah, yeah, it's huge, right? As we talk to folks involved in cloud services at our customer sites, right? What three, five years ago, the vast majority of the spend was in the public cloud, right? And for them, that's still the vast majority of it, but there's an ever-growing footprint, whether it's third-party storage, whether it's third-party application portfolio management tools, whether it's security tools, whether it's ticketing and workflow and queuing tools, whether it's day-to-infrastructure, infrastructure is code, right? There's all sorts of vendors and software and applications and services that our customers have to use in addition to what they're getting from the AWS's of the world. And it's that total cost of ownership, it's really important for them to be able to communicate. And so being able to see what it actually takes to stand up a net new service, right? Because it's not just the greenfield workload in the public cloud, it's also the cost associated with all those tangential services. That's what it really requires someone to think about spending before they place a bet on a new product coming to market. And as capital has become tighter over the last, you know, 12, 18 months, like this is top of mind for everybody. We only have a limited amount of bets we can make or investments we can make. So we need all the data in front of us to make the best decision possible. Yeah, I've always remember those conversations from years ago. Data should be on the balance sheet. It's an asset. You know, in AI, the conversation today is pretty much around your data is your IP. Don't put it in the large language model. So now a new kind of variables emerging, we'll see how that goes. But this brings into the hybrid model. You brought that up. And I think what I see coming is, I hate to use the word total cost of ownership because that's kind of an old TCO has been an old definition. Total cost of ownership has been a constant. It's been around for a while, but it changes with cloud, right? You got, you know, discounted offerings, when to deploy that versus what workloads are net new, different cost structures, what you get out of margin expansion on sales versus costs. How do you look at that TCO? How do you guys in a modern way think about TCO? I'm sure customers bring it up a lot. They do. I think to your point, it's something that's been around for a long time. And it's really just the data inputs that have changed, right? The concept is still the same. It's still important to understand what it costs to operate a product, a service, an application, whatever you want to call it, right? Whatever your vernacular is individually, it's still important to understand what that cost is. What's changed is whether or not the infrastructure is on-prem or in a data center or with a public cloud provider, what's changed is what that telemetry data looks like, the availability of that data, the accessibility of that data. So the conversation is the same. It's really just a matter of updating the systems, understanding where that's coming from, and then thinking about how you plug that back into the technology that is essentially customer facing. Because really, you think about 20, 30 years ago, while technology spend was certainly growing, it wasn't necessarily ever present and part of every single part of every single transaction that every company does with one of their customers. And today, it's totally different, regardless of what vertical you're in, technology is completely at the forefront of how you are interfacing with your customers today. And you're only going to be as relevant as your most recent technology investment. I love this conversation because it reminds me of, you know, the changes in the history of how we are in the evolution of computing. When cloud came out, such a step function difference in cost of value that people didn't really inspect. Oh, I left the lights on, so to speak, left my EC2 open, you'd ever keep processing. The costs were there, but now as you reign it in, as you go next level, cost optimization is critical. You mentioned inputs. You know, the famous Bill Walsh football coach for the 49ers once said, you know, what's your secret to success? He goes, I take care of the inputs and let the scoreboard take care of itself. That's a different, that brings up your inputs piece. What are the key inputs right now? Because if you take care of the inputs, the scoreboard, so to speak, or costs or the spreadsheets will take care of itself from a scale standpoint. Can you share your thoughts on best practices, strategies for managing those inputs, identifying the right ones? Is there a playbook or best practice? Yeah, I think there's a host. I think just a couple that come to mind, right? I would say would start off with your, your tagging and labeling strategy, depending on sort of dedicated workloads versus your containerized workloads, right? So having a consistent strategy across the board that is enforceable to some extent, what we see with our customers, there are five or seven really key elements that everybody needs to have visibility into, whether that's the project, whether that's the product, whether it's the cost center, whether it's the application owner, service owner. You know, there's really just a handful that are really critical. A lot of the rest of that can be articulated through the metadata. So I think just having a good governance strategy in place as far as data quality is really step one. And really where this ends, whether you want to call this step two, three, four, 17, it doesn't matter, is having an accountability structure. So at the end of the day, somebody has to own the cost, right? And frankly, a lot of technologists over time have really been concerned about availability, uptime, SLAs, output, et cetera, right? That's sort of what they're measured on. And that's obviously super critical from a business perspective, right? Making sure the website is still operating or the application is still operating. But at the end of the day, is everyone has to diversify their product portfolio and they have to be intentional on what bets they place. Everybody's responsibility at every organization to be a good steward of that organization's funds. And so having a culture of accountability and having a way to measure that and hold people accountable for how they're spending that money is really critical. And when that process and that people portion, I'm sorry, it comes together, that's where the technology is really able to shine and really show people for the first time many times, hey, did you know this is how much it costs for these types of workloads? And the analogy I use, first time I went out to dinner with my in-laws, I was not expecting to necessarily pay, but it didn't mean I was going to order the most expensive thing on the menu, right? Simply by them publishing the price of the surf and turf was enough for me not necessarily to order it, knowing that maybe my future in father-in-law was going to be paying the bill, right? So just even socializing that information is really a critical first step. Yeah, and you got to have those that control. I love that. Jonathan Strauss, chief customer officer at FDO, congratulations on the success. Final question, take us through the journey and the learnings, where you guys have come from, what, where you are now, and the key learnings and what you guys have done with customers. You got a lot of customers you've helped in IT and automation. What's the key learnings and take us through a little bit of the history? Yeah, I think from a key learnings perspective, I think a lot of what we've learned through our involvement, right? So we started off 15 years ago as a single product, single portfolio company, as we've made acquisitions and grown both organically and inorganically, we've learned a lot about how our business from a software perspective and a technology perspective has evolved. And so I think that direct experience has been really valuable working with our customers as well as we've been able to sort of help them evolve. I think in addition to that, our partnership from the very beginning with the FinOps Foundation from a culture of accountability perspective, from a best practice perspective, bringing that relationship to bear, I think has been incredibly valuable as well. And then understanding the data challenges that folks were facing 10, 15 years ago, while those have evolved and changed over time, our ability to tackle that from a consulting perspective with our customers and then automate a lot of those tasks from a software perspective, I think that comes to mind first and foremost with some of the big key learnings that we've had over the last 15 years and how our customers are taking advantage of that experience today. That's awesome. And the foundation is there and you got a lot more workloads evolving, changing across multiple environments. Again, managing the inputs, cost optimization, understanding how to report that, super important and valuable. Jonathan, thank you for taking the time with this CUBE conversation. We'll see you in New York City for the event, for Avis putting on cost optimization, paying, only paying for what you need with Avis cost optimization. Thanks for coming on theCUBE conversation. Thank you, John. It was a pleasure. Thanks, Jonathan, really appreciate it. This is theCUBE conversation here at Palo Alto. I'm John Furrier, your host here with Apdeos, Jonathan Strauss. Check out our big event coming up on the 25th in New York City. We'll be there in person at the New York City's eight of its offices. Looking forward to seeing you there.


Hello and welcome to the Procrastinator's Drawcast, the starring the only members of the PCP worth any sort of recognition whatsoever, don't even pay attention to the ones that can draw are here today to show you their lustrous skills, such as drawing and a whole bunch of nothing else. That's all they're good for. I am here, the God King Chancellor of the Drawcast, Munchy Jaychatsky. I am here with my ragtag band of mercenaries and criminals and thieves, such as Ben Saint. Here he is. Hive, boys. What should God do? Okay, there's the hippo man. Dude, I love Hive Swap. Oh no, that's the worst thing you could have said to me, creator of Hive Swap. And then we have a lethal aurora mage. Yellow, always here. She's never not here. All right, today we're going to be drawing something incredibly embarrassing. I blush at the idea, we're going to be drawing monsters, those ghoulish freakish monsters of all. We're going to be looking deep inside of our psyche and pulling out our true enemy from the deep subconscious of our minds and trying to portray our pleasure. Yeah, boy. It's already real. Oh no. I'm ready to scare myself with the one I come up with.  All right, I'm going to start off with a curveball. I would like everybody to draw a like like like a fantasy mimic, like a mimic that is like pretending to be something is a scary monster, and it could be pretending to be anything that you would find in like some sort of fantasy land. I gotcha. I gotcha. Okay. All right. I'm going to start the timer for 10 minutes. I'll give you a heads up at five and then at one minute.     Here we go.  Oh no, no, no, no. I didn't think of anything. Yeah. How was that much? Yeah.  I was too gripped. I was too gripped.  I'm going to draw a Jedi knight. Like looking at the minute, it's like, whoa dude, you better stop with that. All right, I'm already drawing the background. That's not important. Hold on, fucking. I've got to set this fantasy scene. It's very nice. People say to me, that's a good one, when they see what I did. How many times have you shown them what you've done? How many yammy accomplishments do you have under your belt? Well, I'm doing it right now on the Procrastinators channel. It's what I'm doing. Is that what this is going up on? I thought this was going on Gibbon Fortress 2. Most things end up on Gibbon Fortress 2. This is true. I'm setting the stage because I don't know what I, oh, oh, I get it. I know it. I have it.  I'm already sad and confused.   And you know that there's just no reason to be scared? Yeah. Every time I listen to, I can't touch this by that guy. I was going to say, MC Hammer wrote a song about that. Mr. Hammer, that's what MC stands for, right? Aladdin was based off of him, you know. Uh, I did know. Tell me something I don't know. No, no.  That's my character here. That's my arc for this episode. Oh dude, the Star Wars. Remember the Star Wars kiddie? The lightsaber and he swings it around. Oh man. Yeah. I remember when Mr. Plinkett pooped everywhere that one time. That was my favorite Star Wars. Very good. Yeah. God. Um, I have not seen a movie in years, but I listen to white people talk about them every day. Oh, too relatable.  Oh Christ. I'm trying to think unironically without any pause or joke or any sort of insincerity whatsoever. The last video game I played was.  Minecraft. Probably. If Pokemon Showdown plays, it counts that I'm an avid video gamer, but I'm kind of thinking maybe it doesn't. Did you alpha build a games count? Yes. Then the game I play was my little blacksmith shop. It has nothing to do with ponies. Don't worry. Oh. Oh, you got me. You got my hopes up there. Sorry. It's a little hard to work with being a very early alpha. It feels like a very early alpha, but it's kind of fun.  Six minutes. It's the will for me. This image is way less funny and good than I anticipated. No, mine's the best. If I can execute this final bit of it, it will be the greatest.  I know. I know. How the mighty have fallen. You have rude this day, as they say. As they say back in old country. Back in old. Yeah. America. Good old America, London. I'm thinking PCPHQ South Sudan. I don't know about you guys, but I think you need to get some young blood in here. Very young blood.  I don't know why I'm using pink line art. It's hurting me. It's hurting my eyes. I sound dead because I am dead. What? What did you just say? We haven't even heard you. Well, that's because I'm dead. No. I guess that makes sense.  You're sending the tax men after you. This drawing doesn't make any sense anatomically. All of that. You're disqualifying. The image I'm trying does not make sense spiritually, creatively, or emotionally at any level. I am trying my best, but with the time limit it's a little hard to do it. We are officially at four minutes now. Five minutes has passed and we are at four zero zero, but as in we are in the four. Wait. You meant six minutes left. No. That was two minutes ago. Yeah, he meant six minutes left before. How does this guy's art work? Not even that much. Oh God. I might even be able to color this. What joy. No one's allowed to color. I don't like the color. Oh no, I nearly did one. I nearly did a funny, I nearly did one of those types of jokes, but I'm not going to tell you what it is. Oh no.  Oh no. I know what it is. I don't. I want to know. Oh, you don't want to know, mage. You don't want to know what I was going to say. Yes, I do. Tell me. Oh, I was going to say a racist joke, mage. No. Okay, then I know. No. Okay, no, no. I don't want to know. I don't want to know anymore. I've said it. No. The streak will never exist. The streak of not being racist will never exist. No. Stop. You asked for it. I thought it might be like an art related joke. If it was an art related joke, why would he have been hesitant to share? Because he'd said it so many times and he doesn't want to repeat himself.  I think the stream is ruined and it's all your fault. No. No, mage.   My image does not have any impact. Mine is like Tim Buckley. I have like a Tim Buckley image for you today. Oh, god.   In fact, right now. I feel like a political comic right now. How much time we got? We have exactly two minutes and 20 seconds. Shit, I'm done. I guess I'll just put some clothes on this person here. I feel like giving him a sick b-neck. Some sweet lats. Oh no, I'm rushing my line art. What is this boy?   I'm not even going to go fast.  I don't even care about my line art. All right, this boy started to look like an old timey comic book. A ye old comic book face. Well, not anymore.  Jealous. I'm gelatin. I like gelatin. Do you eat gelatin on its own? No, I like jello with flavors and stuff. No, I like coarse bones only here on the draw cast. Yes. That is indeed the case. Who doesn't want to know this vital info?  We're fucking, we're fucking, we're in one minute. One minute remoning. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. How did this happen to me? I made mistakes. I know when an alligator is like... I know everything about alligators. Oh, good. You know when an alligator is like, he knows he's been sneaky and he's got his little eye open just having a look. I know, I know you can't see me, but I can see you. That's what this guy is. Noted.  It's, it's my favorite part. What is this? What is this shit? Oh God, what, what, what's he, what's he saying? What is this guy saying to me? Wait, what are you talking about? I don't see anything. No! Oh, it's over, it's over, it's over, it's over. It's over.   Mine's genius.  Mine fucking... No, I'm exporting. Aw, poor Bunchy. I'm gonna, I'm gonna be like, laughed out of the academy. I'm gonna be like, the asskers. I've been waiting for this shit, I, I'm gonna be like, the asskers. Yeah, yeah. I've been waiting for this opportunity to stab Munchy in the back before he could stab me, and this is it. I finally got him right where I want him. Alright, I'm opening up, I'm, I'm giving it to you, I'm giving it to you. Here, here's my... The Mibik is like one of those poster tubes that you get at a con and there's like a nerd holding it, and that's what my image is. What? I'm sorry.  It's those poster tubes. Oh, oh. Oh, okay, sure. Uh, yeah. He seems pretty nonplussed about the whole affair. Yeah, I know.  There's a big old slither slather liquid saliva. Yeah, good. It's a really unique take. Aw, I was thinking about like medieval... I'm sorry. I was, I was thinking about medieval mimics, oh well. Uh, well, I mean, that, you know... Those mimics are chess. I'll, I'll put, I'll push mine into the collective consciousness now. Disgusting. The, the boy and his demise. Oh no. Oh, now I, now I get the sneaky eyes. Yeah. Yeah, so it's really neat. It's like that, it's like that one face...  It's like that one face SpongeBob made that one time. I like the clouds. I love the way the boy looks. Look at his like torso and like arms. I can imagine walking like that. That was, that was like a one continuous line. Like that, that was, that's how I draw. And that's great. I've never seen you draw a face like that. I, I don't like it, frankly. It looks too wholesome. Yeah. I was thinking that you just sort of like cast by the ghost, almost. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty fucked. Who's the next on the, on the shopping block here?  Oh no. Great. That's not even a... What do you mean great? It is.  Great. Oh, so, so wait.   That's way better than what I'm using with my sword or whatever.   Oh, he's turning the arm. I don't know. It just looks like a suicide attempt that is like shucks.  No, it's... I get it then. Forced suicide. I get it then. Don't worry. I'm glad. Okay. Well, my mood is thoroughly sully. Sorry, Ben. I didn't mean to ruin your life. Oh, too late. Mine's a lantern. Okay. Whoa. That's great. That's actually really sick. Do what? It's got gradients and it's from an official Pokemon thing. No. No. No, I created it. It does look a lot like a lantern. It's totally a Pokemon. No. I made him up on the spot. Wait, we already built a Pokemon rocket. Oh, I love Pokemon. I almost picked a Pokemon for my monster, but then I thought of a better idea just at the last minute.  Okay. I'd like Assault to draw one of the most iconic pop culture creatures of all time. I'm talking about the alien life form Alph. Everybody knows Alph. Everyone loves and respects Alph. I've never seen an Alph. Well, I know what he looks like. I vaguely remember what he looks like and I shall draw him to the best of my memory, which is zero. Wait, so we're drawing Alph now? Yes. The timer will start in three, two, of now. Skip the second, bitch, it's going.  I'm drawing from my memory. I'm not even going to look it up. Yes. Same. Well, guess what?    Yeah, like me.  Whoa, whoa, serious, serious vitriol in the chat right now. Here we go. I don't believe in sketches. I think they're made up. No one has sketched anything.  Hey guys. Hey guys. Because of you and Munchie. Hey guys. Someone give me four. Uh, let's, anyone want to go, anyone want to go check, check out the fridge?  I'm home guys. Dude, I want to check out that fridge. Yeah. Don't give me some nice new lard that I like. They came that new lard they just came out with. I got the pre-release patch notes for the new lard. I got the pre-ordered DLC. Guys, just stop drawing because you're just not going to be able to touch me. You'll just, you'll just disagree.  Is that it? No, that's not even close to it. Oh, well now I'm intrigued.  Don't remember. You have a nice thing to say about you, Ben. I see.  Uh, yeah, I mean, take it under advisement. I like it. That sort of looks more like Cal. It ludes me. He just doesn't want to do what I want to. I doubt, I doubt in my heart and in my soul that I even actually knew what Alph was at any point in my life. And I just thought that I did. I think so. Maybe I'm in a dream. You're not, you're not prepared for the reality that is Alph. I think I saw the TV show like once or twice on TV. I remember, I definitely saw it on TV. I don't think I ever actually watched it because why would you? Yeah, I would. Was he like a Muppet that was abandoned? He's an alien. Like, yeah, like I said. But he is a Muppet, yeah. Or he's a, he's a, he's not a Muppet. He's just a Puppet. Muppet, Puppet. Because a Muppet is half Marionette, half Puppet. Oh. That, that makes sense. There's, there's technical, technical, technically defined. We're, we're supposed to be drawing monsters, not aliens, Ben. Get it right. Oh, tell it to the judge. I will. I'll sue you. Um, it's okay. I've been, I've been to the big house before. I can handle another dime. This all could have been avoided if you had chosen something else. What a, okay. I may be being rude with this drawing, but I'm not actually sure. Because this might actually be what he looks like. And I just, you know, I'm just so good at drawing out. You don't want to be rude to Alf.  With his vicious tears that he'll drop from his teeth. He'll slice you. No doubt about it.  Wasn't he supposed to have like, did he have some sort of gimmick? Does anyone know?  Oh, cats, there we go. That's the gimmick. He would always like joke about wanting to eat the family cat, but I don't think he ever did. Oh, funny. Oh, after how I've missed you. It's good to laugh again. The Vietnamese didn't have you, but he sure will. I don't want to draw this, Ben. And I don't want to draw this. Please, let's switch. He's back, guys. Alf is, guys, the reason I picked Alf is because I was listening to Byron Hussie's podcast, which is all about Alf. Why? Why is it all about Alf? He just, it's him and him and a friend do a podcast discussing every episode of Alf, and it's called Alf is Back in Podform. And, yeah, I was listening to it today. On the national radio, I saw it. I saw them, you know, I saw that convention. They had a big one. There was a lot of Alf cosplays. Maybe it was him. Maybe it was Clones, I don't know. It's just a giant. I have a feeling Alf has little, little, you know, jaundice spots, but like not full blown jaundice, just sort of like little bits here and there. Feeling that. How much time we got left? We have about in a second or two, five minutes.  I'm almost done. I'm like done already. Yeah.  That's how crappy Alf is. Did you change the timer to be longer? No. Or did time crawl because we're not having fun? Exactly. Basically.  I feel like I've seen worse. I'm looking at one right now. Puppet of the system. Puppet of the system. Oh, no. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, the religious part. Yeah, we need that. What? Explain yourself. You know what I mean. I don't know anything. Everybody knows what Alf's religion is. Well, I can't wait to find out. Is Alf God-fearing or God-making? Definitely God-making. Alf is an ubermanche who lives, who is above moral principles prescribed by society or God.  I don't know. I think it's a crescent moon with a star. Yeah, how do you not know? I don't know. I thought it was a crescent moon and then I thought that just looks like a moon. That's not it. Then I added the thing. I thought you live in London. Don't they teach you that in school? Oh, no. They tortured us. They tortured us. Good, good. No, it was Sikhism. I learned about Sikhism. They have funny turbans and are nobody knows who they are. That is funny. I'm jealous. They didn't teach me anything cool in school.  Dude, you've said that like twice in the last two hours. I'm concerned. What? Sex. You've said that word twice. Oh, no. Fuck. Oh, no. Dude, this guy is like the opposite of Donald Trump. His hands are so big. Oh, they are, are they? Yeah. This guy's hands are not that big. So I guess we may have been one of us is off model. I don't know who. It's definitely not me. I'm the only person on the aisle here. Okay. What do we got? What do we got for time? We got one minute and 30 seconds. Okay. Well, I'm just going to go ahead and color this one. I mean, I already am doing it, but I'm just letting you all know. Thank you for letting us know. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Good. I mean, I wouldn't want it to come from out of nowhere and just, you know, make you all feel bad about yourself. I don't want you guys to go uninformed. That's the worst thing to be. And he has glasses. Because he's knowledgeable. Sometimes I think. Like, I think he legit wears glasses sometimes in the show. Oh my God. He wears sunglasses sometimes. He wears some glasses. Sometimes. I don't mean to add anymore, except maybe testicles, but that would be going too far, I think. Well, when you're drying out, you've got to give it your besticles. I'm going to remove the religious symbols, and it is not correct. It's not Christian. It's over. Oh, no. Now I've removed it. I can't unremove it. Yeah. I was in the middle of writing the sentence, gone. It's time to go.  Okay. Okay. Just quickly copy. Ah, I cut it. All right. Export. I'll do a layer. Come on. All right.  Give me. Okay. I can go. Okay. Well, then sure. Well, then go. Why don't you? I'll do it. Here it is. Just for me. I accidentally busted it. Here is my owl. Oh, no. Ew. Ew. Look at him. Oh, he's intriguing. Looks so gross. What is he thinking about, Mage? No, no, no. Are you looking at hippos now? Oh, okay. Secret.  He's Harry Potter. Yeah.  And I knew that he was sort of yellow. And I had wrinkly nose. And that's all I got.  He came to earth for its precious gas. I had no idea what his, like other than what his face looked like. And I only had like a vague snapshot of what his face looked like. I guess Mage is more accurate probably. I don't know. Mage is definitely more accurate. Mage is pretty, Mage is pretty on point. I don't remember how his fingers look like. So I just guess. Although he kind of looks like a troll.  Mine, on the other hand. That never hurt, nobody. It's photorealistic to the extreme. Here, here. Before we do that, look at this. Well, we're talking about mine now. Mine's second. Well, alright. Well, here's Alf. There he is. What's he thinking about, Mage? A better monster. Oh, okay. Oh boy. Is that like a five tail? It's like a cubie, but without the fox part. It's just the tails. I don't know. I just quickly scribbled on the last few minutes because I had some time left over. I really like it actually. I really like that little boy. He could be the star of his own comic series. Apart from Alf. He could turn in on the far reaches of the Alf Extending Universe. He could be the star of his own series. He would be introduced to the Alf show and he would be like, he would be so much more popular that we'd have his spin-off show. You know what? I'm suddenly curious how Alf ends. I wonder if other alphas ever came and visited him. I wonder if he left and went back to his home planet at the end. He had an affair with the Cookie Monster and they just had to end the show. You know what I dislike? When people depict aliens, the only ones depict aliens is exactly the same. Humans aren't all exactly the same. It's rude. Wait, do you mean like within an individual species, they should look different for each other? I'm just saying that all of these are canon alphas. They just look different. Yeah, exactly. They could be. On a similar point to that actually, whenever there's a planet, like Star Wars, there's a cop. It's all like one element. Earth isn't all ice.  I haven't watched Star Wars, so I don't care. You know what's annoying about something like Hoth? It's like, oh, this whole planet is ice. So look at all this ice and snow. But there are places on Earth that look exactly like that. And indeed, it was filmed in an Earth location. So it's not like a really fantastical thing. Like, ooh, it's covered in snow. We have snow, too. And not to mention that like, yeah, like, I don't know. It's just like, oh, instead of an ice country, it's like an ice planet.   It makes like the size of the planet so insignificant. Like, oh, it could just be like, you know, 100 mile radius. It is not actually the size of the planet. Also, if all waters frozen, how does life exist? Like, where was it born? If we're going by that logic. Maybe it eats in the ice. Maybe it burrows through the ice and it's like bio. It's like photosynthesis, the size of sunlight that refracts through the ice. And it chews up the ice and then melts it in its grow. Yeah, that would be cool. But what about those ice wolves? No, wait, that was the salt planet made out of salt, I guess. Are you talking about the new one? I guess, I don't know. Let's talk about my drone. Let's talk about the next one. I don't like it a lot. I really like the style. It's cool. I like the schnozzle. Is he Jimmy Neutron's dad? Possibly. Do you want him to be? Yeah, I do. Okay, well then he is. Oh, Jimbo, gotcha. The belly splotches make him look like he's made of like a weird slime of translucent liquid and it's like weird blobs.  He's awful. He's awful. Is he smoking? Oh, he's fucking, he's seared, he's charred. He is far past the point of smoke. He's a wildfire incarnate. Look at his radical drink there that he's got. It's like a can of hot coffee. It's a can of hot feminism, dude. Look at the label. Oh, I see. Oh, I see it now. It's a can of hot feminism, man. I thought it was like a hand holding the can or the packet of whatever it was that it was on. Like he's holding a rectangle and that's closed. He can't wait to drink that feminism. He's drooling in anticipation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If there's one thing Elf was, he was too red-pilled. We gotta fix that in the sequel. I just realized he says, hey, hey, Jimbo, want. Oh, no, that's because you couldn't finish the sentence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just thought it was like, oh, that's a strange artistic interaction you were talking about. That's catchphrase. Hey, hey, Jimbo, want? Works for me. It's talking to a guy called Jimbo and he says want. Like, what do you want? Want. Hey, hey, want. Maybe.  Yeah. Hey, hey, Jimbo, want. That's my name. You guys want to see my Elf? Yeah.   Yeah! Oh, my God. He looks just like my uncle. Look at that hair. Look at that slick hairdo he's got. He's like Jonathan Taylor Thomas. I like that. He's like Skrillex. He's ahead of his time. When, approximately, when in Elf the series does the bass drop?   Even though nothing's happened. That's when the bass drops. The bass drops and never stops. Yeah.  Elf is just one long rip.  That lasted all through the 1980s.  Okay, we're done with Elf. He's dead. May, do you want to go next? Sure.  I know. I know. I know what you're talking about. All right. Count of three. We're going. It's going. I know. I know what I'm going to do.  We're in the thick of it. I know what I must do. All right. Never mind. I go back and when I said sketches are too important to not have. Sketches are for cowards.  No matter what. Yeah. So why must we fight? Agreed. Affirmative. Oh my God.   I'll be the judge of fat. Like all you need to do is just do big red, big red and then it works. All you need to do is take a cup of flour. Add it to the mix. Mix. Then you take something like that. Sweet, sweet, not sour. Just a pinch. Just a pinch. There you go.  A little more and you count to six.  Six, six, six. The number of the bitch. Hey. Yes? That's my favorite number. Why am I not surprised? No one's gonna like mine. Glad you've calmed in. Yeah. It's okay. I've made peace with it. I've made peace with it. Oh sure. Oh sure. Laugh at hippos.   Genius mimic design. He thought we have a party. I'm peace with it. Okay, you just stopped it.  I love butterflies. You know who also had the best rings? Rarity in episode 16, Sonic Ringo. When she answered the phone as like nice rings and you know, that was the joke I was going for. Well, I think it's time we end the draw. No, no, I'm not quite finished. Spike had me that thing. Spike, fetch me your modus please. Gotcha, gotcha. I'm excited to bring you all this masterpiece. How many minutes do we have left? Six minutes, 30 seconds. Okay, I can work with that. Hopefully I can work with you. As Evans by the fact that we're working together right now. That will do Spike, you're dismissed. This is, this is, this is going to be take too long to actually line art and then colors.  I think Ben said and just make it into. Woo, yeah. Covering you ground. Now that the dust has settled, let's observe the ground because we can see it now because the dust is gone. I mean, everyone always says, everyone always says, oh, my sketches look so good, but then I do the final line art and it's not as good. Well, cut out the middleman. Cut him right out. Slice him up.  Get your knife. What's that thing that people say? Artist, something sword, something, something? The pen is nicer than the boy. Well, you're still happy about.   Oh, it's such a cute and deadly boy. I love that combination. That's what they said. That's what you said. That's what I said at your funeral tomorrow.  How is he deadly if he's dead? You know, that's just how I'm describing him currently. My Asian friend died very deadly. Oh, my God. What, you got something against Asians, kid? Yes. Oh, no.  No! That's hippo insanely racist crit for you. Oh, no, don't let that be my one and only meme that sticks.  Yeah, dude. I've already got a reputation. This is not good for my CVS, my curriculum vitae. Do they have CVS's over where you come from? What, CVS? No, CVS. What is that?  Oh, no. They don't have CVS's in England? I have never heard of that. Maybe he exists. I don't know.  Weird. This guy looks like a cockroach with butterfly wings, but that's why he's a villain. He said it has to be his other.  Well, he doesn't have to be. He just looks evil. Oh, there we go. We're here with the mage agenda.  How much time will have left? We have... Oh, we have two minutes. We have to save five minutes. Well, there you go. Oh, my God. No.  I like ten minutes. We should do more ten minutes. Do you guys want to go extra rounds? I guess. How are y'all feeling? Because we've only got one round after this. I feel like we're doing our justice. I feel like we've done our time. But I'm fine with going another round. I go all day. No amount of drawing can ever cease me. I like drawing monsters, so I'm fine with it. Yeah, sure. But like actual monsters, Ben?  He's an A. Alf is an American classic. Alfasenturi. Very important that we get right.  No, you can't wobble the name. Mine is going to be real sloppy. Mine too, though, because I didn't have time to line art this.   I need to fix that. How much time do we have left? Oh, 30 seconds. Okay. Oh, never mind. 30 seconds, okay. All right, well, I guess. No problem. Tuesday again? One problem.  It's me, the Gerfeld. I kind of looks cool without the line art. I almost want to take it out. I swear.  God, my father! All right. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. All right, all right, all right, all right. Here we are. I'm just merging layers.  Uncle Munchy. Okay, okay, okay. I'm going to post mine right now.  I think... Let me look at what I did. Aside from the first one. One, two, wait. All right, I'm ready. Observe. Oh, it's so cute. We had the same idea with the spike, but...  That's a bee boy. That's a butterfly. There's the butterfly wings. Yeah, that's what makes the butterfly. It's the wings. There's furlies on top. I love it so much. Beautiful. Oh, yeah, they have swirlies. Not straighties, damn it. Dumb-bye. I forgot them completely. I knew I forgot something.  What ain't he? That is blue. Okay, I'll just casually throw them in. I'll put mine. That thing just looks cumbersome. I don't know how wieldy that weapon would be. Whoa. Oh my goodness. Oh, look at that. He's got a gun, so you better watch out.  Oh, no. Full triangle. How the churns have tabled.  Oh, wait, that's not what he meant. That's pretty cool though.  Oh my god. Yeah, literally. That's old butterflies unknown for it. Just having two of the same. What are you saying your art hack you've just come up with? If we all do that, it will save so much time. Indeed. Incredible.  Here's me, everyone. Prepare to be bemused. Oh my god. Is that elf? It's Bart. It's Bart Simpson. It's Bart Simpson from The Simpsons. Like in that one episode.  No, no, it's not the Halloween one. It's the one where someone, he says that if he ever got reincarnated he'd like to come back as a butterfly because no one suspects the butterfly and then in his fantasy he turns down the school and ends it on Skinner. I suspect the butterfly. Yeah, well now you know. I suspect the butterfly. That's why we're drawing butterfly monsters. That's fair. I guess you're wise beyond your years. Even though your years are are junior, you still have a couple of crackpot ideas up in there. Let's see. Also here's a line list version because I liked it so much. Whoa.  Or no it's not. Oh, I love it. Yeah, that's actually really sick and good. Congratulations. Yeah, good job. Good job, Maid. You did it. Nice one. Nice going. I love drawing monsters. Okay, okay.  What sort of hideous abomination can I do?  Let's draw a munchie.  What kind of monster can I do that will just like scare the heart and soul of every child watching this? I have it. Draw your dads. Draw your dads here. Oh god, no. That's what's happening. Timer, one, two, three. We're going. Timer now. Timer's now drawing your dads. You draw your real life dads right now. Your real dads. The most hideous monster of all. I'm scared. I'm scared. Well, not anymore you don't. Thanks, Ben. Destroy. This is terrible and I hate it. No. You've done a terrible thing. No, it's not the case. Oh, I'm doing art lines. I'm doing like lines that artists do. Boy, which I mean like good. Oh, now it doesn't look good. As soon as I say that. Every time. Every time. Jinx it. I jinxed it. Oh, it's okay. My dad could beat up me. No. Oh, yeah. Well, my dad could beat up me 10 times more. My dad beats me all the time. At monopoly. Oh, if only if only my dad were still with us. What I do for just one more beating. I hope my dad sees this. Wherever he is. How can he beat you and you don't know where he is? He's got psychic powers, man. Yeah. Have you ever heard of Skype? Jesus. I'm exaggerating my dad's beard because drawing beard is easy. I don't know how to draw his hair. Oh, I have a good idea. Oh my god. Oh, this is making me feel things I didn't want to feel. Just want to say I love my dad. He's the coolest man I've ever met. What piece of memory has the worst dad do you think? I don't really know that much about the dads. We should have a dad past. Yeah. Get them all on here saying who to be here. My dad doesn't really speak English all the time. Well, make him learn. Make him learn. He's been learning for a while now. Ugh. No, that's the opposite. That's the opposite of what you should be feeling right now. Ugh. Ugh. Oh, my dad looks so gross. I'm like done. I want to call an end. No, no. This is going to be double time. I put the time around 20 minutes. Uh, alright. He looks nothing like my dad. You're drawing him. I can't draw people. I thought you draw anime all the time. Doesn't that look like an anime? No. My dad does not. You should flatter him with the anime eyes. He'll appreciate it. I am drawing anime eyes because I'm really bad at everything else. And that's why it doesn't look like him. I'm just, you know, just channeling Lisa right now the game. It's got the best dad of all time. The worst human of all time. That's what you need. You need terrible fathers. Fathers need to be good dads but terrible people. Otherwise it just doesn't make sense. Uh, yeah. There's a Mr. Show skit about your child. It's all about the new parenting thing to abuse your children just a little bit so they become tortured geniuses. Uh, and there's like it cuts to a David Cross as Albert Einstein, furiously scribbling in chalk on a chalkboard. He slowly and creepily turns toward the camera and goes my faza touched my butthole. It's great. It cuts to Adolf Hitler in front of a crowd doing the Nazi, and it's like 1920, what, 1910, whatever.   I agree. Boy, I wish I hadn't told that story. My dad was the most potent, commoner blood of all time. Impressive. Pure. Pure garbage.  Um, I'm done. You better not be. I don't want to do this anymore. I was three minutes in. By the way. I'm three minutes away from death. Oh, okay. Well, I'll just color, I guess. I'm coloring.  When they tell you to not color outside the lines in kindergarten that was a lie to make you worse. Because they were jealous. Yeah. Yeah. That's a powerful manly dad stance. I need him to like be stepping on like prized positions and things. You know, like dads are wanting to do. Like, PlayStation 2. PlayStation 2. Oh, he smashed it. Not actually, but like metaphorically. He's just sort of standing on a rectangle. Um, yes. And then I should draw myself. Cowering fear. Wait, no. When I was young, I didn't have big, big, poofy hair. When I was young, I didn't have fear. When I was young, and life was so wonderful. A miracle. Oh, what's that song? I don't know what it's called, but it's by Super Tramp. Super what? Super Tramp. I like that guy. There are times when all the world's asleep and questions run so deep for such a simple man. It's good. Um. Oh, dads. Yeah. Boy. I like the expression I gave him. It really conveys everything with minimal amount of stuff.  Um, how much time do we have? I'm trying to put in the background, but I think I might not have time. One minute left, basically. Okay. Oh, this is iconic. This is nice. This is too. It's getting a bit of an inside of the ear. I don't want to add too much because it's like, it's great. It's great and I don't need perfecting. Mine is so good. I'm going to make the letter even better though. You have 20 seconds left. Okay. Yeah, I think that's going to do it for me. Yeah. All right. All right. All right. Damn it. Forget it. All right. I'm so excited. I have to be the first one.  What is this going to be? What? Oh, that's him to a T. Yes. He's everything I imagined and more.  He's got there. His hands are atomically accurate.  Really?  Yeah, it does. Gross. Why didn't you inherit that? I wish I did. Like these wearing purple mascara. Yeah. Eyeliner. I don't know makeup.    What's to see about that? It kind of looks like people's conditions. He kind of reminds me you probably haven't seen a lot of fanart of King Dice from Cuphead and they kind of interred him like with a similar face. Yeah, a little bit. I can see that. The Dice on your birth, that's for sure.  Yeah, Monty was born with two ones. Yeah. Awful. Look at my dad. Just look at him more. Don't comment. Just look more. Now I know why you want to steal so many others. Yeah, because I had such a good one. I had to get them all. All right. Enough. No more. Should I go next?   It's a professor. Oh my god. Is that KFC? It is. Correct. He's exuding a menacing aura. Yeah, at first you think he's pretty happy but then you see his eyebrows. They're slightly tilted down. Tilted down. He's got menacing aura. He looks like he might... I accidentally made him look a little dope though. I accidentally made him look a little dope though. We have to send all these photos to our dad. No, no. On Facebook. My dad can't know that I thought about him. My dad won't understand. So, nope. All right. Someone else. I'll go here.  Nice job. I got it. Here it is. Dude! Oh, you're so tiny. It's not actually true to life. But, you know, at times he has felt like this to me. Oh, you're so tiny. Nobody is abusive, but he's just a big guy and he gets angry sometimes. That's one powerful dad. Am I your dad, Hippo? Maybe. We'll see. We'll see how this time loop is. I love him. He's so big. I'm coming for you next, Hippo. Hippo, who are you next?  Oh, McPhee is too broke. He bans me for me. He hates video games. He hates video games. If he knew how to use YouTube, he would disown me immediately when he sees what I do. Oh, no. I'm getting in touch with him. I'm letting him know. Your dad know. Okay, my turn. We'll see your dad now. We'll see your dad now. There we go. That's not... I didn't do it. Explain your dad, May. Horns. I mean, I didn't want to... Well, the scar on his forehead is true to life. He has that scar and he does wear glasses and that's basically... Everything else is fabricated. Pretty much. Oh, he's holding a beer. He's holding a can of beer. I thought he was holding an iPhone that just said Beck on it. Like he was a big fan of Beck. I thought he was holding a phone that said PCP on it before I opened it. Your dad was an avid watcher. No. Where's our shirts? What if all our dads have PCP shirts? That would be the worst thing I could imagine.  I don't understand what my kid does to make money on the internet but he seems to like it a lot. So I support it. Get out of here, dad. Yeah, I wish you could support gay marriage, dad. Yeah! Where it really counts.  Incredible. Look at all these... I think it's Hippo. I think it's obvious that yours is Hippo. Yeah. Is it demonstrated here? The real question is whose dad is weaker? Dad or Ben or Mages? Whose dad is weaker out of the two? That's tough. I feel like Ben's dad has got that sort of like Machiavellian scheming ability behind those dead eyes.  He's like this enemy.  His eyes and his horns give it away. He won't be able to lull people into a false sense of security. Maybe he can hide them. You don't know. With a big hat. With really big ear muffs. Alright. This is just my headphones guys. Yeah. Well I guess we've drawn the greatest monsters of all. They're just my beats by Dre. Yeah. I think we've really gone to the heart of what monsters are all about. The things that scare you and belittle you and make you cower and fear the most in your entire lives.  Things that lurk in the deep dark and you look up on your lights at night in a hop and puff after having a nightmare about said creature.  Sounds like permanence. Yes. Looking back over what we've done here I'm pretty spooked. I'm shivering in my little beads. I'm past me the candy because it's Halloween. Right. If I do say so myself. Alright. I'm glad you joined us here for the pro craftsmen draw a cast featuring us, the boys. Yeah, art boys. Kill them. Kill the others. Kill the others. The other ones don't matter. What do they do? They review anime? Whatever.  Literally. They review artists out of the PCP.  Yeah. And they are artists. So I hope you enjoyed the only real content on the PCP channel. The draw cast.  Yeah. It really helps us out. Did you make the drivel?  It really helps us out more. Thank you for joining us and as they say, as my dad is saying currently well, see you later. See you later, everypony. See you later. Bye. Always half turned away. That's the last thing you ever saw. I'm going for a pack of cigarettes. Goodbye.


TLO was we are on twitch. We are not live that you can leave a like comment subscribe turn on your post notification bells Now let's continue to grow the family from Chicago to the UK We got grim report, so I'm questioning My to set that wrong, but why why hasn't they posted to this channel in a year? It seems like a waste of 274,000 so what are we doing here? Whoever runs the channel post Anyway, the chicken connoisseur. This my boy man. That boy be eating don't he? The five pound much. Let's get into this. They requested this Check out this intro your people you ain't seen one like this before chickens his name And he's the undisputed Chicken connoisseur inside man. I'm here outside outside You ready for yeah, you know stop have a much I'll show you the tech is yeah, there's tech is to this game The main thing is this don't find me because a lot of people is gonna be watching this video. They're gonna be saying right Men's eating something different from chicken or buying stuff.  What's your name boys? I'm it pick up. I made what's the name of the shop. It's a boomer. It's them.  I made it. Thank you for letting us come here So what I was thinking First thing but I'm what I want a bunch to be honest full-time. I'm quite sweet. So I'll go for the sweets first Me too.  I know a lot of people don't like that That's a good to me come on fact selection, you know Better mini teeth go for some fried eggs Cuz you obviously you need that be a bit of protein your diet on a regular Fried eggs never heard of it.    You basically got no vegetables. You got like fruit Is the most delicious Now to count a balance with the sweetness we need to go for something a bit safe safe, so Bacon fries are not the one I'm thinking Chris What are they bacon fries are not the one bacon fries You just say the word fries. I've never heard one of y'all say fries before never I'm thinking Chris I Don't really like potato chips not gonna lie like I eat Doritos and like other than that Yeah Right, we know the same round there man. We've got one simple same runner. It's true treat yourself. Don't beat yourself Fine. Would you ever want to meet yourself? I did Right now, it's true treat yourself. Don't beat yourself friend. Would you ever want to meet yourself? I did Paprika Deep-rich taste So obviously see them crevices there filled with paprika Walker brand never heard of Never had a paprika chip. Not a thing here flavors The new school stuff like pepper didn't even taste like nothing You that's pretty useful from that's not that's not an og Chris. It's not og Chris But listen sometimes you need to keep up with the times Now we're venturing into how you don't see too often but Sometimes it's not just about sweets and a little saving need a bit of pastry in there For a munch to beat to get the robustness of the munch to get the most out of it You don't need a little bit of pastry not something that you'll back all at once Because this may look like a 35 year old kid. That's tough It's gonna happen tonight easy But satellite waffles you're thinking ahead. You're thinking about the morning You're thinking ahead. You get waffles. What is it? 150 it's not bad waffles. You can have a couple now a couple for breakfast Smart guy But we're not done waffles That are in the pastries aisle that are not frozen never seen it Never seen it. That's new to me. That's more to go He's at 150 plus One that's 250. I don't know how much the uh chips are Probably 50. Well, probably a one I know You don't got a lot to go now. You gotta gotta get a drink my dude going along with that waffle feet We're talking longevity You need to get at least a little pack of biscuits because you know You need biscuits really and truly A lot of these things like that you get a nice crunch from this, you know, sweets are okay But sometimes you just need sign you can you have about 20 of also And when I say that I'm thinking of the Marylens You have a look at that 89p. You can you can you really go wrong? Can you really that's a real question. Yeah, 89 that man is a cheap and cheerful old school Old school, you know, you're getting for your money exactly from back in the day from But personally, yeah, so are these just cookies or Cookies, right? I would have thought you would be more of a forever rush a Listen Kyler Quality, why don't you get some quality streets where we could eat that we could just outside now just eat on the road Listen, it's a shout. But you know, I'm I'm not doing a double or nothing Because I wouldn't I wouldn't I was about to hit you but do you know what fam? It's double or nothing No B It doesn't are you a gambling man? That's a question. Not really. No No Oh You could go up to 10 pound you could go down to zero exactly if it goes down to zero and I'm leaving you with nothing That's like no. Oh double up. That's where you get the 10 not about that life Not about that life. I'll take what I've been given All right So All right, now that you've got all of this Hold on. Hold on. What is you for to drink this down there?  Okay. This is a handful. I don't think I'll be able to do that Just slap it here Sorry, can you can you wait for a minute so you can do anything together? Yeah Okay, yeah That's right. Thank you very much. So I just leave this stuff here for now and It's time for a little juice And I'm feeling I'm lost for what why the juice is not refrigerated Y'all next drink one juice out there If I'm going into a corner store or a mart. I want to drink this juice immediately Pudder my taste buds are requiring No, what do you say? No, what do you say? I don't remember Pudder my taste buds And I'm feeling Even a bit 30 What you mean by that chicken connoisseur you feeling what? Shout out to the lgbt community. You feeling what we're feeling What you feeling? Even a bit 30 Pudder My taste buds are requiring He ain't even catching I don't remember That's what I said I did it now No, no, I've not never been that rare You know what? This is it really and truly, you know, if you pace yourself with this munch You can do all right not me 50 90 It's under five Manuija five five munches.  She definitely picking up items which are Within the top range within the I need some with meeting it pause pause pause pause pause pause but I need something like Some with some substance god, damn I'm pretty sure you can find something in there like one piece of chicken. Yes well Treat yourself, sir. I see Hennessy up there In the cut listen In all realness This is a serious much It's a serious much. I hear what you're saying. I already pulled out on this But you know sometimes he that's top dollar pastry. I don't got anything to go with the waffles though Ain't going to honey enough it He's copping honey. It's not nice. Not that deep. It's not that deep at all. Listen, dry waffles. I'll do that Yeah, five pounds. This is what man's living up.   This is where it begins This is where it begins can rushing it out one of these a day now last year a week Can have a couple biscuits a day again a couple biscuits for breakfast or Sign in and like a little waffle lunchtime with one of these Sugar rush now that'll keep me going for the rest of the day and then Crack open this and you know a little cheeky hand full of crisp I'm like you can't get a like little packet of meat I know in the stores out here that got the little flimsy packets at all these Y'all got all these out there. You know the little little single packets of meat Y'all know I'm talking about man. Y'all know a damn there with them.  They like 25 cent or a pack I gotta get one or something put it on top of the waffles For your dinner You're flying I'll last you a couple days five pounds. Yeah, right You're right. Do you ration it out correctly? And that's what it's about. It's about balance And you put the drinkers well Exactly the drinkers well two two sips Put your plastic bag over it so flies are coming and all of that Maybe what we're done up here is You see you're getting ideas from this is where it stems from Balance Look at that strong. Yeah, dude laugh cameraman laugh is crazy Balance Look at that That's the much We'll go tell you this up So he might have changed I don't know Because out there taxes included in the prices of everything right that's what somebody told me so 59 cent that includes tax Math was crazy when he was picking this He didn't have a change piece of change to spare Honestly, the only thing I would have did different Is I feel like I don't need The The uh I don't need all three waffles chips Crispy I'll call them waffles crisp and biscuits. I don't need all three of those So one of them got to come out For me probably the chips I would have taken the crisp my bad. I'm gonna take them off of there Because I don't really and I would have had to go get some meat paws The little packets of meat that I'm trying to talk about but I can't figure out the name Nice, uh, cool fights. Hey, you done it. We've got no music I'm a different music Cheers Cheers, thanks for that. Thank you very very much for letting us take easy out and I'll drop this in here as well Say no back to these loud ass London streets $4.97 You know, I wasn't ex I didn't manage to cut the game, but I have a couple now a couple later save it for tomorrow nicely toasted mouthful tree You don't need anything with it. You don't need honey. You don't survive of that A bit of crisp certain save See that paprika there serious business It bangs job Got a nice crunch in there as well, you know, you need to switch up the texture sometimes sometimes textures make a Difference not always flavor. You know what I mean?  All of that adds on with a sweet tooth Speaking of sweet tooth Plenty sweets obviously fried eggs got a bit of what you call it protein in there I honestly would have put the fried at home the l paws I would have put the fried eggs back to because Never had them Don't look interesting. They look nasty to put them back to have that. Yeah, you could have that for breakfast as well And fruit in it. That's a little right. That's a bit mad. But yeah, it's in there Obviously mini teeth Tief they got calcium and that's so you know, that's what I heard anyway So obviously it's blessed for your teeth and if you ever go you know, I make a lot of computer people Hey, babe I just imagine him doing that you put it in your teeth like Hey, hey, like that's what I imagine he did behind the camera There's sure breeze antioxidants all them free radicals and All of that gets rid of that business Healthy giving a good life health is woke indeed And then finally wash it down But they look a bit apache It's straight pressure. We got a bag of diabetes on them. That's tough Like I can't even remember the song how it goes, you know It's rubbish, you know But yeah, I'm bling for real I'm bling for real.  That's how you make it stretch Remember longevity people longevity this can last a few days if you're yashing it well It's stretch remember longevity people longevity this can last a few days if you're yashing it well saying those for the waffles And you know what bro I have to figure out here because For one year, I've just actually filmed something historic. Yeah. Yeah, this is something that they're gonna study in schools one day You know fun. They should the day that the chicken connoisseur What stuff that weren't chicken? It's true. It's happened DJ drama. He's not like DJ drama on the mixtape It's happened on film first time on film apart from trainers that you don't just eat trainers and chicken in it. Exactly It's true. So, yeah Let's be frank. We've seen him buy it, but we've never seen him actually eat it So I don't know if he ate this stuff or not. I handed it out to the homeless He's about to go to the chicken shop. Probably that's across the street Stay locked. 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Ooh, wait, do I love science? And Bill Nye just dropped a massive mic when it comes to the science of addiction. Everybody, this is Chris from the Rewired Soul, where we talk about the problem, but focus on the solution. And there is a massive problem going on, which is a shame because it is mental health awareness month. And this problem is that people do not fully understand addiction and it is something that is killing tens of thousands of people in the United States alone each and every year. So in season three, episode three, Bill Nye talks about the science of addiction. So first and foremost, I got to give a shout out to Alicia Nicole over on the DeFranco Now app for recommending this episode to me. Like if any of you are on the iPhone and you want a cool app to use, use the DeFranco Now app, come follow me.  But anyways, she told me about this episode of Bill Nye and I'll be honest with you. I love Bill Nye growing up as a kid because I've always just loved science, but I haven't watched any of his new episodes since he came to Netflix. And I will say, the most disappointing part of this episode is that they don't have the old theme song. Like it was so catchy. It'll not a science guy. It'll not a science guy. But anyways, please do me a favor and share this video. If people don't want to listen to you or me about the science of addiction and how it's a disease, maybe, just maybe, they'll listen to Bill Nye the freaking science guy. So in this episode, obviously the topic is addiction and he asked the audience, how many of you in here have been affected by addiction? And probably 75% to 80% of the hands go up. And first, the episode starts off where he's explaining the way the neural pathways change in the brain based on rewards and reward-based learning. And it's actually kind of funny the way he starts out with the intro because he's showing how these positive rewards that we get from coffee to going on social media. And we get this positive reinforcement in the form of likes or shares or retweets or whatever it is. And then he gets some negative comments, right? And then he turns to alcohol. And he starts guzzling about all pills. And then he goes to a slot machine. And this is kind of how addiction works, right? Now, one thing I loved about this episode is that they talked about addiction as a whole. They didn't just cover drugs and alcohol. They also talked a lot about behavioral addictions, which we don't talk about enough. And behavioral addictions, we're talking about shopping, gambling, sex can be one, OK? So it's kind of cool. They actually have some correspondents who go out and about. So one of the correspondents, she actually went to a university where they're studying gambling addiction. And it was so cool. It was so, so cool. So what they had, they have an FMRI brain scan, OK? So basically, they use this really powerful magnet to kind of see what your brain's doing and how it's responding to stuff, right? So an inside this brain scan, like you're laying outside down like this, and it has a slot machine going. And what they're doing is they're monitoring your dopamine system to see how you respond to wins and losses. And here's the thing, right here, OK?  As you can see, clearly, clearly, an addicted brain responds differently to stimuli than a normal brain, OK? People with an addiction, they get an excess flood of dopamine. And when this happens, the reward pathways tell this person to go, go, go, go, go. This is science, everybody. And that's why I put it right here, respect the science, OK? So after they show those studies and everything, they kind of do this round table where the correspondent is back there. And then they also have a gentleman who is like the director of psychology at one of the universities. He was actually in that Netflix documentary, Take Your Pills, as well. And then they have a lieutenant from Ohio. Those of you who didn't get the memo, Ohio has a massive heroin epidemic going on right now. And man, kudos to this guy. Kudos to him. He's talking about how they realized how bad the epidemic was. And they needed to quit locking people up and jailing them and start offering them treatment. So where he's at in that county, they're providing people with detox services, social services, helping them get back on their feet, get therapy, get treatment, and all sorts of other things, right? And check this out. Check this out for everybody who thinks that we just need to lock up all these drug offenders. He managed to save his county with this new kind of method, managed to save them half a million dollars last year. That's your money. That is taxpayer money, OK? It is far more expensive to incarcerate these people with addictions than it is to simply treat them and help them go on to live these better, successful lives. So at this round table, they're kind of talking about the stigma and what people don't understand about it. The psychology professor, he said, like, they don't have nearly enough time for them to talk about all the things people get are wrong about addiction, but the one point that he touched on is that we need to quit looking at this as a moral failing, right?  Oh, they can give up if they wanted to. Oh, if they were just a better person. And that's not the case. Most people have an underlying psychological disorder, right? And think about it. This can be depression. This can be anxiety. This can be ADHD, OK? This can be bipolar, right? But one of the big ones, I hope you watched my video on adverse childhood experiences, one of the big ones is your environment growing up and traumatic experiences. These are things that are completely out of people's control, and it can make them more prone towards addiction, right? So I love how they talk about how we need to start looking at this as a mental health crisis and not this, like, criminal thing where we need to lock everybody up. Like, I see the most disheartening comments. My video on opiate withdrawal is getting more and more views. I think it just passed 40,000. There are just so many, so many comments on there. People just demonizing these ads. And it's brutal because a lot of it is from misunderstanding or not understanding, you know, the science behind this thing, OK? But anyways, I'm not going to spoil the rest of the episode for you, like, please. Like, even if you do feel like you understand addiction, like, go watch this episode on Netflix, OK? It's out now. It's available now. And like I said, too, go out and share this video. For anybody out there who doesn't understand the disease of addiction, share this video on your Facebook and social media and stuff like that. Let's try to get more people to get educated about addiction, because once people actually understand the science behind this thing, then we can start working towards more solutions, all right? But anyways, if you like this video, please give it a thumbs up. And if you are new here, I'm always making videos not only about addiction, but how to help you out with your mental health. Click that little round Subscribe button. And if you want to check out some other videos on this channel, you can click or tap on one of those thumbnails, all right? So thanks again so much for watching. Respect the science, and I will see you next time.


Ah-ha, wow, external validity, I don't know why that's funny and you need the scary voice for that, but I'm scary laugh for that, but I did. The degree to which a study's findings generalize beyond the study itself, external validity, is it gonna happen in the real world? And even but that's like extreme external validity, and we could have external validity, it's going to happen in the other lab, the one next door, or oh yeah, how about with different subjects? Oh yeah, how about with that other lab down the street? Oh yeah, how about that lab up down in Alaska? You don't want, it's cold up there folks, lots of up downs. So does the experiment generalize? Is it have generality? Did you design an experiment in a way that allows you to say that this applies in other settings to other people, in other labs, so on and so forth, so external validity.