Jacob here with another question and answer video. I've got a question I get asked quite a lot and that is what type of cardio is best for me to lose weight? Okay now the first thing that I go into with anyone who asked me that is how do you lose weight? Okay what does cardio do? What what does cardio do to you to to accelerate your weight loss? Well what it does is it raises your heart rate. The the faster your heart rate is going, whatever activity you're doing, whether that be walking, swimming, running, fucking, whatever, the more calories are going to be burning, you know it's as simple as that. The more muscle tissue you have on your body at the time of doing cardio, the more calories you're going to be burning. Muscle tissue takes you know far more calories than fat tissue to maintain and to move so that's another thing that you've got to keep in mind. Now as far as this question is going to be related to low-intensity steady-state cardio versus high-intensity interval training cardio so less first hit. Personally guys I've tended to go to towards the low-intensity steady-state cardio now as far you know there's certain reasons why I do that. There's pros and cons of each but basically the way I see it I enjoy going for a walk right so I you know first thing in the morning if I don't have work that day I really enjoy getting up before I have any chance to sort of think about anything getting out into that fresh air and hitting the streets.


My name is Brenna Smith and I work here at Insight in NUI Galway, as education and public engagement officer. And that involves organizing conferences, workshops, lectures, courses for primary schools, post-primary schools, community groups, volunteer groups, not just at Insight itself, but right across the whole West of Ireland. The purpose of our outreach is to excite young people in particular about the research that's taking place here in Insight, about how we're creating a data-driven society, about how it is young people themselves that are actually changing the world, particularly in a technology level. So for instance, if I pick up my smartphone here, I look at Google, I look at YouTube, I look at Facebook, all of these technologies have been created by young people either in their teens or in their 20s. So we're saying to young people, when we go to schools and we have schools visit here, that you're the people that are changing the world and you can be part of this change. So all our outreach activities have this as a general purpose. So we have, for instance, smart future talks where our young researchers here go out to schools and encourage young people and excite them about the world of science and technology, giving them a kind of an aspect of their everyday lives and how their research is making a difference to benefit the world. We organize app making courses for second level schools. We teach young people scratch coding. And for instance, not just in schools, for instance, we bring them in here on Saturday mornings. This place is maybe up to 60 people here on Saturday mornings learning how to code itself. We have here our own computer and communications museum, Ireland's only museum dedicated to that aspect of technology heritage, showing how ever since the dawn of world communications with the development of the radio, it is being done by young people or for young people. And also because we're in Ireland, we're pointing out that so many of these technologies have an Irish dimension to it. We also work in areas of encouraging young women in particular to look at STEM as a future career. And we have talks on that, we have history elements to it because more than ever before we need young women to take ownership of the STEM area. It is STEM subjects that are making a difference and we want more women to actually get actively involved. We also operate a very extensive social inclusion program where we work with older peoples, we work with asylum seekers, engaging them with these new technologies. We have a very extensive series of courses and workshops on cyberbullying and internet safety. These technologies of web are fantastic but like everything good there is a downside. So we make parents and young people aware of the dangers that exist out there. So we try to engage with young people and older peoples and all sector society at so many different levels, utilizing the research that's actually taking place here in insight. So me as an individual, I'm so proud to be part of this. We are a global center for the study of data analytics and we are making a huge difference at grassroots level right across Ireland. There are so many aspects of my work that I truly love but probably my most favorite part of outreach is working with young people in the area of coding, showing them how not just to use an app which they do all the time, do their best in the world but to create an app, not just playing the game but to make a game and it's a beautiful sense of empowerment and wow, when you go into our classes here with Coder Dojo on Saturday morning and you see seven age-olders with their parents learning how to code, creating a game, creating an app and the sense of fun and creativity that comes across in it. Likewise with teenagers, again our teenagers are so tech savvy but to turn that tech savvy into tech creativity. So insight is fulfilling a unique element within society. We are complimenting the educational system. We are taking our people from just being the users into the creators and that gives us a sustainability for the future for society.


Hi, my name is Andrew, and I will be voting for marriage equality. I hope you'll vote with me. Next year the country will commemorate the 1916 Rising. The people that died in that Rising wanted a country based on equality, fraternity, liberty and democracy.  I don't think you do. So come out on the May 22nd and vote yes. Vote yes for marriage equality, vote with me, vote with me for marriage equality. Thank you.


Thank you for joining us this afternoon for a very exciting announcement. I am pleased to be joined this afternoon by Kim Carson, who I am appointing to the position of Director of Racial Equity, Inclusion and Belonging and who I hope will be confirmed by the City Council next Monday night. Since creating the position within the administration in the fall of 2019, the REIB department has gone through tremendous growth and taken on numerous critical initiatives to advance equity within our local government and throughout the Burlington community. Before telling you more about Kim and next steps, I want to first recognize Acting Director Pitt Kiamanavan, where Pitt go, here she is, and the whole REIB team for their work through this extended transition period. Pitt stepped forward at a really important and challenging time for the community, before the city and provided department focus and leadership and the REIB team really stepped up and pushed forward many critical initiatives over the last six months, including hosting the second annual Juneteenth celebration hosted by the City of Burlington, continuing to implement the first-ever city-wide racial equity training for all city employees and many other ways, including as we heard just the last time the City Council met moving forward the work of the reparations task force. With their skill and dedication and with Kim's leadership, I am confident that REIB is well equipped to continue the urgent work of ending racial disparities and fostering a sense of belonging in Burlington for all. Let me say a little bit more about Kim. So she comes to the city team from Iowa, where she has most recently served as the director of education and human capital development for the Iowa Judicial Branch. What that means is that in her position she led the judicial education and professional development for nearly 2,000 employees and provided strategic leadership for diversity and equity initiatives across the agency. Kim brings extensive experience to the role of REIB director in training and social justice advocacy and an organizational cultural change. Before her work in her career in the judiciary, I think a really interesting aspect of Kim's background is that she worked as a collegiate track and field coach in Iowa and for USA track and field. This comes after a long successful athletic career in her own right where she was inducted into the LSU Athletic Hall of Fame and competed at the 1996 US Olympic trials. In my early conversations with Kim, she made it clear that that background as well as her professional work in the judiciary had made her a professional that greatly values teamwork. When I brought forward the creation of this position in my 2019 budget proposal, it was with a vision that to advance rapidly on racial equity issues, we needed an apartment focused on that issue. We had tried to do this work in other ways and we had decided by that time in 2019 that we needed the focus of having a department. At the same time, we knew that that department simultaneously needs to infuse the values of racial justice and equity across all the city's initiatives, efforts and management. Creating a department with such a broad and critical mandate is a major challenge. I am very excited to be bringing forward for confirmation an individual in Kim Carson who possesses the skills, education, training, work experience and values to succeed in this key leadership role. Thank you Kim for joining the city team. I'm looking forward to working together and very excited to hear stuff like that. First I just want to say thank you and since I came here for my interview and throughout this process, I just feel a sense of overwhelmingly feeling belonging and welcomeness here. From the people on the committee to just the everyday citizen that has spent time talking to me when I ask them a billion questions about being here, it's just a community that I feel like is very prime and open for this work and to come here. I'm at the point in my career where I can really choose where I want to be and what I want to do and I chose Burlington. And so I'm moving me and my family here. So I'm really, really excited to be a part of the Burlington community. I'll be living in Burlington, my child. My son will be going to school in Burlington and hopefully next fall my daughter to University of Vermont. So I'm here and committed to not just the community and this job but also becoming a Burlingtonian, I think is how you say it, long term. I have no desire to move and my son specifically told me he's going to middle school next year and that is not the time to change. So we're here to stay. Thank you. We'd be happy to answer a few questions if you have any. All right, good idea. So you know what? It's a sign of your commitment to the area, Kimberly, here say a Burlington flag pin here. And here, yeah, pin it on me. All right, there we go. Thank you. Thank you. Great spontaneous idea, George. Oh, it's one of the minor. I miss that too. I see. All right. You know, best late plans.  We'd be happy to answer some questions. Yeah. So we have kept most of the positions that were, that had been opened. We've kept them open so that Kim can build her own team. We have moved forward towards hiring a new manager to lead the public health equity work. And I know we had a finalist interview recently. Maybe I'm not sure if we have a commitment on that one. We will be announcing a hire there, but I believe all the other positions we have kept open for Kim to be able to fill. I don't want to add anything to the pit in terms of exactly what the current staffing is. Yes. Currently, we still have a couple of our facilitators and we have Blaine at Tensei, who is our strategic manager. We just hired a new administrative staff. So we're excited about that to help us coordinate our financials. And a public engagement, a public health equity manager will be starting with us soon. And like the mayor said, that we definitely in knowing that we're going to have a new director want to keep that open for Kim to vision out how she wants to move the department. At 14, yes. There's five. Yeah.  And Karen, do you want to talk about the process? Sure. I think we have some members of the search committee here today. Patrick Brown, Louis Cauldron, Kara Al-Naswari. We thought it was really important to have internal representation. Folks that couldn't make it because this is kind of what they'll ask. You know, we asked everybody to be here. We had a panel of about 13 people. I think out of all the people, all the interviews we had, we had about six applicants that made it through to the final round. And Kim was our last applicant. Any other questions? Six. No, there was, I think five made it to the final round. It was five. We had five interviews and two internal candidates. So, all right. I think the press release has the full committee that participate in the process. Yes. I'm initiated in the city. There's been a fair amount of turnover. And I believe there was some criticism from certain council members and the FIPOC community about how the last director left. And I was wondering if you could talk about how you're committed or what you're willing to do. Yeah. So, what Burlington has been trying to do for a long time, but with extra emphasis, I would say since 2019, is ensure that Burlington is a city that is welcoming, inclusive, that has a sense of belonging for all. We want that for the city as an organization. We want that for the community as a whole. We're committed to working towards it. I think there are few communities, few small cities in the country that have made anything like the commitment that we have made to this as a city since 2019 and then 2020 when we have dramatically expanded our investments in this area. Taisha Green served for almost two years and had a very impactful tenure here. And there's many aspects of her work that will positively impact the city for years to come. She fortunately chose to move back to Minneapolis. I tried hard to avoid that outcome. But she is no longer with us. The commitment remains. We have passed in this year's budget. We have continued to commit nearly $2 million to racial equity and inclusion. And I am confident that Kim, after a period of assessment and working with the existing REIB staff, working with the administration and the city council, will create a vision for moving forward from here that will be very impactful and successful. Areas that I know will be within that vision, because Kim and I have talked about it, we are going to certainly continue the internal work that we've made substantial progress on in recent years of creating a culture and a workplace that is very culturally competent, committed to racial equity and belonging. It has been a little more than two years since we declared racism a public health emergency right here. There was very impactful work done in the wake of that, ensuring that we had a racially just and equitable response to the pandemic and to the economic recovery. I think some of the best work the department has done is in those areas. And we know that we now need to carry that ethic and that success into all of the social determinants of health. And we're excited for that work. A third major area, which again I know will be part of our focus going forward, and then I'm very committed to, I think all of you know how much I talk about and focus on housing. I think it is the heart of a lot of our social challenges. We know that within that broad challenge of the housing shortage we have serious racial disparities, particularly in black home ownership. And I am excited about working with Kim and the team to finally, we've been talking about this for some time and I'm eager to bring forward a black home ownership initiative that builds on some of the recent policy work at the state level. So we're as committed and well resourced for this work as ever and I'm excited that we found the right leader to take the work forward from here. Okay, if there's nothing further, thank you all for being here. Again, Kim, thank you. We'll see you all on Monday night.


From theCUBE Studios in Palo Alto in Boston, bringing you data-driven insights from theCUBE and ETR. This is Breaking Analysis with Dave Vellante. Snowflake's eye-popping IPO this week has the industry buzzing. We have had dozens and dozens of inbound PR from firms trying to hook us offering perspectives on the Snowflake IPO so they can pitch us on their latest and greatest product. People are pumped and why not? An event like this doesn't happen very often. Hello everyone, and welcome to this week's Wikibon Cube Insights powered by ETR. In this Breaking Analysis, we'll give you our take on the Snowflake IPO and address the many questions that we've been getting on the topic. I'm also going to discuss at the end of this segment an angle for getting into the ground floor and investments, which is not for the faint of heart, but it's something that I believe is worth talking about. Now let's first talk about the hottest IPO in software industry history. At first I want to say congratulations to the many people at Snowflake.  Yeah, they're all the new Sluteman, Muglia, Spicer, Buffett, Benioff, even Scarpelli. Interestingly, you know, you don't hear much about the founders, they're quite humble. And we're going to talk about that in some future episodes, but they created Snowflake. They had the vision and the smarts to bring in operators that could get the company to this point, so awesome for them. But you know, I'm especially happy for the rank and file and the many Snowflake people where an event like this really can be life changing versus the billionaires on the leaderboard. So fantastic for you. Okay, but let's get into the madness. As you know by now, Snowflake IPOed at a price of 120. Now, unless you knew a guy, he paid around $245 at the open. That's if you got in, otherwise you bought at a higher price. So you kind of just held your nose and made the trade, I guess. You know, but Snowflake's value, it went from 33 billion to more than 80 billion in a matter of minutes. Now, there's a lot of finger pointing going on. This is this issue that people are claiming that it was underpriced and Snowflake left $4 billion in the table. Please stop. That's just crazy to me. Snowflake's balance sheet is in great shape. Thanks to this offering. And you know, I'm not sure jamming later stage investors even more would have been the right thing to do. This was a small float. I think it was around 10% of the company. So you would expect a sharp uptick on day one. I had predicted a doubling to a $66 billion valuation and it ended up around 70. Now, the big question that we now get is is this a fair valuation? And can Snowflake grow into its value? We'll address this in more detail, but the short answer is Snowflake is overvalued in my opinion right now, but it can grow into its valuation. And of course, as always, they're going to be challenges. Now, the other comment we get is, yeah, but the company is losing tons of money. And I say, no kidding. That's why they're so valuable. We've been saying for years that the street right now is rewarding growth because they understand that to compete in software, you need to have massive scale. So I'm not worried in the least about Snowflake's bottom line, not yet. You know, eventually I'm going to pay much closer attention to operating cash flow, but right now I want to see growth. I want to see them grow into their valuation. Now, the other common question we get is, should I buy? When should I buy? What are the risks? And can Snowflake compete with the biggest cloud vendors? I'll say this before we get into it. And I've said before, look, it's very rare that you're not going to get better buying opportunities than day one of an IPO. And I think in this case, you will. I remember back in 2015, I think it was the first calendar quarter and ServiceNow missed its earnings and the stock got hit. And we had the opportunity to interview Frank Slutman, then CEO of ServiceNow, right after that. And I think it's instructive to hear what he said. Let's listen, roll the clip. Well, I think that a lot of the high-flying cloud companies, and obviously we're one of them, you know, we're priced to perfection, right? And that's not an easy place to be for anybody. And, you know, we're not really focused on that. This is a marathon, you know, every quarter is one mile marker.  We're really pacing ourselves or building, you know, an enterprise that's going to be here for a long time. You know, and after that, we saw the stock drop as low as $50. Today, ServiceNow is a $450 stock. So my point is that Snowflake, like ServiceNow is going to be priced to perfection. And there will be bumps in the road, possibly macro factors or other. And if you're a believer, you'll have opportunities to get in, so be patient. Now, finally, I'm going to make some comments later, but I'll give you the bumper sticker right now. I mean, I calculated the weighted average price that the insiders paid on the, the S1 that they paid for Snowflake. And it came out to around $6 a share. And I heard somebody say on TV it was $5, but my weighted average math got me to $6. Regardless, on day one of the IPO, the insiders made a 50X return on their investment. If you bought on day one, you're probably losing some money, or maybe about even. And there are some ground floor opportunities that exist that are complicated and maybe risky, but if you're young and motivated or older and have some time to research, I think you'll be interested in what I have to say later on. All right, let's compare Snowflake to some other companies on a valuation basis. This ought to be interesting. So this chart shows some high fliers as compared to Snowflake. We show the company, the trailing 12 month revenue, the market cap at the close of the 16th, which is the day that Snowflake IPO'd. And then we calculate and sort the data on the revenue multiple of the trailing 12 months. And the last column is the year on year growth rate of the last quarter. And I used trailing 12 months because it's simple and it's easy to understand and it makes the revenue multiple bigger. So it's more dramatic. And many prefer to use a forward revenue, but that's why I put the growth right there. You can pick your own projected revenue growth and do the math yourself. So let's start with Snowflake, $400 million in revenue. And that's based on a new-ish pricing model of consumption, not a SaaS subscription that locks you in for a year or two years or three years. I love this model because it's true cloud. And I've talked about it for a while. So I'm not going to dwell on it today, but you can see the trailing 12 month revenue multiple is massive and the growth rate is 120%, which is very, very impressive for a company this size. Zoom, we put Zoom in the chart just because why not? And the growth rate is sick. So who knows how that correlates to the revenue multiple? But as you can see, Snowflake actually tops the Zoom frothiness on that metric. Now, maybe Zoom is undervalued. I should take that back. Let's see, I think CrowdStrike is really interesting here and as a company that we've been following and talking about quite a bit. In my last security breaking analysis, they were at a 65x trailing 12 month revenue multiple. And you see how that's jumped since they reported and they beat expectations. But they're similar in size to Snowflake with a slower growth rate and a lower revenue multiple. So there's some correlation between that growth rate and the revenue multiple sort of. Now, Snowflake pulled back on day two. It was down early this morning, as you would expect, with both the market being off and maybe some profit taking. You know, if you got in an allocation of 120, why not take some profits and play with house money? So Snowflake's value is hovering today. It actually bounced back, it's hovering today. You're just under 70 billion and that brings the revenue multiple down a bit, but it's still very elevated. Now, if you project two X growth, let's say 100% for next year and the stock stays in some kind of range, which I think it likely will, you could see Snowflake coming down to a CrowdStrike revenue multiples in 12 months. It'll depend, of course, on Snowflake's earnings reports, which I'm sure are going to beat estimates for the next several quarters. And if it's growing faster than these others at that time, it should command to premium. You know, wherever the market prices, market is going to go up, it's going to go down, but we'll look at all these companies. I think on a relative basis, Snowflake still should command to premium at higher growth rates. So you can see also on this chart, you got Shopify, Awesome, MongoDB, Twilio, ServiceNow, and their respective growth rates, Shopify, incredibly impressive, Mongo and Twilio as well. ServiceNow is like the old dog in this mix. So that's kind of interesting. Now, the other big question we get is can Snowflake grow in to its valuation? This is a chart we shared with you a bit ago and it talks to Snowflake's total available market and its expansion opportunity there, TAM expansion. This is something we saw Slutman execute at ServiceNow. When everybody underestimated that company's value. And I'll briefly explain here. Look, Snowflake is disrupting the traditional data warehouse and data lake markets. Data lake spending is relatively small. It's under two billion. But data lakes, they're inexpensive and that's what made them attractive. The EDW market, however, the enterprise data warehouse market, it's much, much larger. Now, traditional EDWs, they're big, they're slow, they're cumbersome, they're expensive and they're complicated, but they've been operationalized and are critical for companies reporting and basic analytics. But they've failed to live up to their promise of the 360 degree view of the customer and real time analytics.  He gave me example where a change in a regulation, this was a financial company, it would occur and it would force a change in the data model in their data warehouse and they'd have to ingest all this new data and the data warehouse choked. And every time Intel came out with a new processor, they'd rush out, they'd throw more compute at the problem. He called this chasing the chips. Now what Snowflake did was to envision a cloud native world where you could bring compute to massive data volumes on an elastic basis and only pay for what you use. Sounds so simple, but technically, Snowflake's founders and those innovations of that innovation of separating compute from storage to leverage the flexibility of the cloud really was profound and clearly based on this week's performance was the right call. Now I'll come back to this in a bit. Now where we think Snowflake is going is to build a data cloud. And you can see this in the chart where your data can be ingested and access to perform near real-time analytics with machine learning and AI. And Snowflake's advantage as we've discussed in the past is that it runs on any cloud and it can ingest data from a variety of sources. Now there are some challenges here and we're not saying that Snowflake is going to participate in all these use cases that we show. However, with its resources now, we expect Snowflake to create new capabilities organically and then do talk in acquisitions that will allow it to attack many more use cases in adjacent markets. And so you look at this chart in the third layer, if that's 60 billion, it means Snowflake needs to extend into the fourth layer because its valuation is already over 60 billion. It's not going to get a hundred percent market share. So we call this next layer automated decision-making. This is where real-time analytics and systems are making decisions for humans and acting in real-time. Now clearly data is going to be a critical part of this equation. Now at this point it's unclear that Snowflake has the capability to go after this space as much of the data in this area is probably going to live at the edge. But Snowflake is betting on becoming a data layer across clouds and presumably at the edge. As you can see, this market is enormous. So there's no lack of TAM in our view for Snowflakes. That brings us to the other big question around competition. Everybody's talking about this. Look, a lot of the investment thesis behind Snowflake is that Slutman and his army, including CFO Mike Scarpelli, and what they did at service now will be repeated. Scarpelli is this operational guru. He keeps the engine running with very, very tight controls. And you know what? Pretty good bet, Slutman and Scarpelli and their team. I'm not denying that, but I will tell you that Snowflake's competition is much more capable than what service now faced in its early days. Now, here's a picture of some of the key competitors. This is one of our favorites, the XY graph, and on the vertical axis is net score or spending momentum. That is ETR's version of velocity based on their quarterly surveys. Now I'm showing July's survey. October is in the works, it's in the field as I speak. On the horizontal axis is market share or pervasiveness in the dataset. So it's a proxy for market share. It's based on mentions, not dollars. And that's why Microsoft is so far to the right because they're huge and they're everywhere and they get a lot of mentions. The more relevant data to us is the position of Snowflake. It remains one of the highest net scores in the entire ETR survey base, not just the database sector. AWS is its biggest competitor because most of Snowflake's business runs on AWS. But Google BigQuery you can see there is technically the most capable relative to Snowflake because it's a true cloud native database built from the ground up. Whereas AWS took a database that was built for on-prem, par Excel, and brilliantly, really made it work in the cloud by re-architecting many of the pieces. But it still has legacy parts to it. Now here's Oracle, Oracle's huge. It's slow growth overall, but it's making investments in R&D. We've talked about that a lot and that's going to allow it to hold on to its customers. Huge base. And you can see Teradata and Cloudera. Cloudera is a proxy for data lakes, which are low cost as I said. At Cloudera, which acquired Hortonworks is credited with the commercialization of that whole big data and Hadoop movement.  Now there are a zillion other database players. We've heard a lot of them from a lot of them this week is on that inbound PR that I talked about. But these are the ones that we wanted to focus on today. The bottom line is we expect Snowflake's vertical axis spending momentum to remain elevated and we think it'll continue to steadily moved to the right. Now let's drill into this data a bit more. Here we break down the components of ETR's net score and this is specifically for Snowflake over time. Now remember, lime green is new adoptions. The forest green is spending more relative to last year than 5% more than last year or greater. Gray is flat spending, the pink is less spending and the bright red is we're leaving the platform. The line up top, that's net score, which subtracts the red from the green as an indicator of spending velocity. The yellow line at the bottom is market share or pervasiveness in the survey based on mentions. Now note the blue text there, that's ETR's number one takeaway on Snowflake. Two H20 spending intentions on Snowflake continue to trend robustly, mostly characterized by high customer acquisition and expansion rates, new adoptions. Market share among all customers is simultaneously growing, impressive. Let's now look at Snowflake against the competition in Fortune 500 customers. Now here we show net score or again, spending momentum over time for some of the key competitors. And you can see Snowflake's net score has actually increased since the April survey. Again, this is the July survey. This was taken, the April survey was taken at the height of the US lockdown. So Snowflake's net score is actually higher in the Fortune 500 than it was overall, which is a good proxy for spend because Fortune 500 spends more. Google, MongoDB and Microsoft also show meaningful momentum growth since the April survey. You know, notably AWS has come off its elevated levels from last October and April. It's still strong, but that's something that we're going to continue to watch. Finally, let's look at Snowflake's market share or pervasiveness within the big three cloud vendors. And again, this is a cut on the Fortune 500. And you can see there are 125 respondents within the big three cloud and the Fortune 500 and 21 Snowflake respondents within that base of 125. And you can see the steady and consistent growth of share. Not huge ends, but enough to give some confidence in the data. Now, again, note the ETR call out that this trend is occurring despite the fact that each of the big three cloud vendors has its own competitive offering. Okay, but I want to stress, this is not a layup for Snowflake. As I've said, this is not service now part two. It's a different situation. So let's talk about that. Look, the competition here is not BMC, which was service now's target. As much as I love the folks at BMC, we're talking here about AWS, Microsoft and Google. Amazon with Redshift is dialed into this. I've said often that they have copycatted Snowflake in many cases and last fall at re-invent we heard Andy Jassy make a big deal about separating compute from storage and he took a kind of a swipe at Snowflake without mentioning them by name, but let's listen to what Andy Jassy had to say and then we'll come back and talk about it. Play the clip. Then what we did is because we have Nitro, like I was talking about earlier, we built unique instances that have very fast bandwidth so that if you actually need some of those datas from S3 for a query, it moves much faster than if you just had to leave it there without that high-speed bandwidth instance. So with RA3s, you get to separate your storage from your compute. If it turns out, by the way, on your local SSDs that you're not using all the SSD on the local SSD, you only pay for what you use. So a pretty significant enhancement for customers using Redshift. At the same time, if you think about the prevailing way that people are thinking about separating storage from compute and letting people scale separately that way, as well as how you're gonna do this large-scale compute where you move the storage to a bunch of a weighting compute nodes, there are some issues with this that you gotta think about. The first is, think about how much data you're gonna have at the scale that we're at, but then just fast forward a few years. Think about how much data you're gonna actually have to move over the network to get to the compute. So, look, first of all, Jassy is awesome. He stands up at these events, like re-invent for two hours, and he connects trends and business to technology. He's got a very deep understanding of the tech. He's amazing. However, what AWS has done in separating compute and storage is good, but it's not as elegant architecturally as Snowflake. AWS essentially has tiered the storage off the cluster to lower the overall costs, but you really, you can't turn off the compute completely. With Snowflake, they've truly separated compute and storage. And the reason is that Redshift is great, but it's built on an on-prem architecture that was originally an on-prem architecture that they had to redo. So, when Jassy talks about moving the data to compute, what he's really saying is our architecture is such that we had to do this workaround, which is actually quite clever. But this whole narrative about the prevailing ways to separate compute from storage, that's Snowflake, and moving the datas, use the word datas, plural, to the compute, it really doesn't apply to Snowflake because they'll just move the compute to the data. Thank you, Hadoop, for that profound concept. Now, does this mean Snowflake is going to cakewalk over Redshift? Not at all. AWS is going to continue to innovate so Snowflake can better keep moving fast, multi-cloud, new workloads, adjacent markets, TAM expansion, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Microsoft, they're huge, but as usual, there's not a lot to say about them. They're everywhere. They put out 1.0 products, they eventually get them right because with their heft, they get mulligans that they turn into pars or birdies. But I think Snowflake is going to bring some innovations to Azure, and they're going to get good traction there, in my opinion. Now, Google, BigQuery is interesting. By all accounts, it gets very high technical marks. Google's playing the long game, and I would expect that Snowflake is going to have a harder time competing in Google Cloud than it does within AWS and what I'm predicting for Azure. But we'll see. The last point here is that many are talking about the convergence of analytic and operational and transaction databases. And the thinking is this doesn't necessarily bode well for specialists like Snowflake. And I would say a couple of things here. First is that while it's definitely true, you're not seeing Snowflake positioning today as responding at the point of transaction to say, for instance, influence and order in real time. And this may have implications at the edge, which is going to have a lot of real-time inferencing, but we've learned there are a lot of ways to skin a cat, and we see integration layers and innovative approaches emerging in the cloud that could address this gap and present opportunities for Snowflake. Now, the other thing I'd say is, maybe that thinking misses something altogether where the idea of Snowflake in that third data layer that we showed you in our TAM chart, that data as a service layer, or data cloud, which is maybe a giant opportunity that they are uniquely positioned to address because they're cloud agnostic, they've got the vision and they've got the architecture to allow them to very simply ingest data and then serve it up to businesses. Nonetheless, we're going to see this battle continue between what I've often talked about, these integrated suites and converged databases in the case of Oracle, converged pipelines in the case of the cloud guys, versus the best of breed players like Snowflake. We talk about this all the time and there really isn't one single answer. It's really horses for courses and customer preferences. Okay, well, you know, I know you've been waiting for me to tell you about the angles on ground floor investing, and you probably think this is going to be crazy, but bear with me. And I got to caution you, this is a bit tongue in cheek and it's one big buyer beware. But as I said, the insiders on Snowflake had a 50X return on day one, you probably didn't. So I want to talk about the confluence of software engineering, cryptography, and game theory powered by the underlying value of blockchain. And we're talking here about innovations around a new internet and a distributed web or D-web where many distributed computers come together to form one computer that guarantees trust between two or more users for a variety of use cases, not just financial store like Bitcoin, but that too. And the motivation behind this is the fact that a small number of companies that say five or six today control the internet and have essentially co-opted the major protocols like TCP-IP, HTTP, SMTP, pop three, et cetera, et cetera. And these people that we're showing here in this chart, they're working on these new innovations. There are many of them, but I just name a few here. Olaf Carlson-Whee, he started Polychain Capital to invest in core infrastructure around these new computing paradigms. This gentleman, Mark Nadal, is someone who's working on new D-apps. Tim Berners-Lee, who invented the internet. He's got a project called SOLID at MIT and it emphasizes data ownership and privacy. And of course, Satoshi got it all started when she invented Bitcoin and created the notion of fractional shares. And by the way, the folks at Andreessen Horowitz are actively making bets in this space. So maybe this is not so crazy, but here's the premise. If you're a little guy and you wanted to invest in Snowflake, you couldn't until late in the game. If you wanted to invest in the lamp stack directly in the late 90s, there was no way to do that. You had to wait for Red Hat to go public or to get a piece of the Linux action. But in this world that we're talking about here, there are opportunities that are not mainstream and often they're based, yes, on cryptocurrencies. Again, it's dangerous. There are scams and losers, but if you do your homework, there are actually vehicles for you to get in on the ground floor. And some of these innovations are going to take off.  But there are people, really smart technologists and software engineers that are young, they're mission-driven and they're forming a collective voice against the dystopian future because they want to level the playing field in the internet. And this may be the disruptive force that challenges today's giants. And if you're game, I would take a look at this space and see if it's worth throwing a few dollars at. Okay, a little tangent from Snowflake, but I wanted to put that out there. Snowflake, wow, closes its first trading week as a company worth $66 billion. Roughly the same as Goldman Sachs, worth more than VMware and the list goes on. I mean, what's more is there to say? Other than, remember, these episodes are all available as podcasts, so please subscribe. I publish weekly on wikibon.com and siliconangle.com, so please check that out. And please comment on my LinkedIn post or feel free to email me at david.volante at siliconangle.com. 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Thank you so much for keeping this company a very good Monday morning to you. My name is Adere Vahili. I want to sample some of your responses to our social media platform before I introduce the topic that is coming up next after these comments. Now we asked you do you think too much money is spent on political campaigns and sampling some of the responses by you. We have Deno Kipli. He says a lot of money is being used in politics. He agrees with that a man may sacrifice the use of his all money at least he or she and end up being poor. Agustin Kavifia says not even much money but too much. Dengeni Kisao Mokweni County well represented. Thank you so much for watching. Fili Jones Minor says siyasa nimchezo chafu umtuna tumia pesa kama zote then a lot at long last as paid votes kumi. Fun enough akuna ata ya family member ata moja. Nimsik Desvila says a lot is used. Kaleb Otebas says of course na kuru ni kondani. Thank you so much. Adimilo Kingori The face of Nyandaro County Magumu Kinangopi is well represented. Thank you so much for watching. Elvis Baraka says that is true. A lot of money is used in political campaigns. Kaleb Otebas says yes na kuru. Thank you. I think then we have Mark Magut says ya not even too much but too much. Those are some of your comments or your responses to the question we ask you. Do you think a lot of money is being used in political campaigns and some of you are agreeing with the situation? Yes, a lot of money is being used in campaigns. Now it's not time to speak matters health. We want to know or to bring ourselves up to speed with the latest. We've been fighting COVID-19 but like the minister of health has been crying out we have had health conditions that need to be looked into. This morning we are talking about cancer. I'm speaking to one and only Omondi Ochuka, he's an economist but I'm calling him the ambassador for cancer. He has been advocating for cancer awareness in the country and he's doing a lot. Good morning. Good morning. How are you? I'm great. It's a pleasure to have you here. Thank you so much. No, cancer for a long time is one of the elements and we can agree, we can all agree just like corona it doesn't choose who is who whether you have money or you don't. If cancer strikes it will and it will find anyone. Even so, tell us about your story. My story stretches back to 2011 that is the year I was diagnosed. I was 19 years old and I was in the first year in campus. Sometimes they always ask you so how did they come to know? How were you diagnosed? Did you previously fell ill? It's very funny because I had no health condition that could have premeditated all that. I was just a normal kid. Just a young boy in college hoping for dreams and all that. Then one day I think after class I was in the University of Nairobi. The chit chat you have with your friends after class on a Friday afternoon. So we were chatting and then all of a sudden I just feel like my vision is blurry and I'm very tired and fatigued and then I collapse. So when I wake up I wake up in a hospital and I'm being asked what day is it? Do you know your name? I was very strange because that is not the environment I last remember. Sounds like a movie. There seems to be some blank space between when I was with my friends and now that I'm in a very strange place that looks like a hospital. So the nurse tells me she tells me her name and she tells me you were brought here by your friends because you collapsed, you had a seizure and we do not know yet what would have caused the conversion. So we are running a couple of tests and we will let you know what we find out from your tests. So I'm told to just sit tight and all that I am seeing I'm having a drape of the what, the IV drape. It's still very weak, I can't really quite comprehend so they take me back to sleep with a tranquilizer. So meanwhile I think I think that done a couple of tests overnight so some of them were just trickling in so we were waiting for the doctor to do their morning rounds that was like on Saturday at 10 am. So when the doctors come and they tell me we've reviewed some of your results and they seem to indicate that you could be having liver problem we do not know yet. Of course doctors are very careful in terms of how they relay the information so they tell you that they don't know really yet what could have been the problem but when more tests come more specific tests actually because tests can be done generally and then there are specific ones so they tell me they'll do a couple more tests and then on Monday now we'll have a comprehensive report about my case. So coming Monday they come with the results and they tell me I have liver cancer. Results are out. Results are out. You are in hospital. I mean the hospital. You didn't know you were in hospital until you were brought here. As a young kid in college you had dreams. Of course I did.  Right. How did you receive the information? It was really difficult because you don't believe it. It's like a shock and disbelief. You don't imagine that well first of all it was really difficult because the doctors were imagining that I was omitting some information about my health or my lifestyle habit. They asked me if there is any consequence of the case in my family. Of course there is not. I do remember. They asked me if I use narcotics or drink alcohol. Of course I don't. So it was really difficult for them to wrap their heads around my case because most liver cancer first of all it's always diagnosis for liver cancer comes very late like pad stage or fourth stage when there is really nothing that can be done about it. My case was very I think they called it lucky because it was the second stage but still they were trying to imagine what is the history what could have caused it because that's very important in terms of drawing up your treatment plan. They say it's triggered by something. Yeah, it's triggered by something. A lot of things could be genetics could be history, family history it could be your lifestyle when you drink alcohol excessively so that could cause cirrhosis that leave a damage and then also that could cause cancer. So when they sort of realize that now this guy doesn't have any history of narcotics of alcohol they said cancer can always just occur out of nowhere just like a malfunction of the body. So then now we have a new task to look at we are wondering now what do we do now that cancer is there what treatment plan do we draw for this guy and that is now where the work is because usually die in tech like a day it can go for a stretch it can do more specific tests and then the stage the disease further I had stage 2 but now they are looking is it spread is it affecting other parts of the body Right, so when they did that they drew a treatment plan for me the other difficulty that I faced during that point was my cancer was inoperable the scan that came up showed that the tumor was at a very critical point of my liver it was in one of the veins that are very critical in the liver so chances that if it were done surgically I would have not made it out of the theater so what we drew for the treatment plan was do a series of chemotherapy and radiotherapy so that we can shrink the tumor and then later on we can do what is called resection now for most people you already maybe know that liver if you cut it it will grow back so that was the treatment plan shrink the tumor with chemotherapy and radiotherapy and then later on resect the part that is affected and then it will grow back let me just take you back with the kimo a number of people you'll hear them say the chemotherapy I've gone for the kimo but majority of the people out here do not know what goes on with the kimo if it's the therapy you know if I had an accident someone would try to make it work what happens with the kimo people talk of kimo it's shorted as kimo kimo is very simple but also very complex you just go to a booth just like the guy sitting there on a couch sit on the couch I know a lot of people have donated blood or have received blood or have seen somebody in the movies or just in real life so what they do they hook you with the IV on your vein most of the time they do for me here it's one of the major veins here on your hand they use a granular to hook it on your vein and then kimo is basically just a drug it's prescribed so it has a regimen that is flowing on the drip so they could add it to water so that water the drips goes into the vein directly that is a form of kimo that is how they do kimo now with your all life planned out I want to do this course I want to be this person when I finish school this is my life and now you are sitting somewhere having the kimos how is your mental wellness at that point well I think most cancer survivors find it really difficult the beginning when you get the diagnosis and the beginning of your treatment that is the point where most cancer survivors usually succumb or actually they begin to have challenges with their mental health so to be honest really I was really disoriented because you have your life planned out you're young you're wondering why would the cancer happen to a 19 year old who for a long time there's this notion that cancer affects those people that cause it people who have cancer cost it or did something to warrant that disease like for example liver cancer is very stigmatized as a disease for those people who drink excessively but now I am here I'm wondering I don't drink, I don't use alcohol I don't smoke why do I have cancer so there is that why question about the why question is what most cancer survivors go through they ask the same why me why do I have this disease so I think I also went through that period where I was questioning why the cancer was happening to me and if I will make it and if it will affect my dreams I really wanted to be in the academia so I had a lot planned for my life I had but now I'm having kimo actually during the first semester and the second semester of my year one I was struggling with kimo and studies at the same time but I was still clinging and I was still in denial of me deferring studies until a point where I couldn't anymore and I had to be I went into koma I think around 2012 in July so that is the point where I deferred for the very first time so that was difficult for me when I woke up after I think it was around 43 days during that koma it hit me so bad that is the time I was clinically depressed and I was still in denial of the fact that I can't continue with studies anymore and I was having this inevitable thought that I might die soon it is a thought that comes you don't know exactly because you are having treatment so chances are you could get better but on the other side is you might not make it so it actually bothers you so I went through therapy and it was really okay during 2013 I had already gotten over the why question I was really strong I was already grounded I knew this is now my new reality and that is why the point comes with acceptance and also one interesting fact to note about any chronic illness maybe HIV or diabetes when you are diagnosed usually it is more like grief it is like you are mourning you that was before you are mourning your dreams you are mourning your normal health because right now if somebody looks at you you are looking okay but now you are given a diagnosis that is really difficult to go through it is expensive it is costly to treat it affects your body I didn't mention kimo is poison it is meant to kill the tumor but at the same time it might end up killing the good cells in your body and that affects you so one of the ways it affected me is like I lost my hair it was really tragic for me you go to the bathroom and when you wash your hair the hair falls off by itself so that can be really scary you are imagining how what else is affecting in the body so all these things compounded together can actually have a toll on the mental health of the patient or the newly diagnosed cancer patient and at the time when now you stress you feel depressed did you seek counseling or who was your supposed system? it took a long time because mostly mostly I had only my grandmother that's like my family so it was very difficult I don't know what it's called Ethics Award but I'm trying to imagine my grandmother is almost 80 years old the person who is actually supposed to support her at the moment so I was wondering how do I break the news to her without really breaking her heart so it took me quite some time when I started treatment that is almost like 2-3 months after my diagnosis I took some time reflecting and all that just looking at every possibility and just getting myself ready I never wanted to go into treatment when I am still weak I'm still doubting because one thing about healing healing a lot happens from within when a patient is broken from within chances are the healing and the treatment plan might not really work because they're dealing with a tumwell inside and therefore either the drug is going to weaken them further or they're going to not believe the healing process so I wanted to actually grant myself on that so when I broke the news to her it was obviously devastating for her but eventually you really have to accept and just move further so I sought therapy for a year and that actually helped me in terms of grounding myself back to accepting the reality that is and now getting ready for what is supposed to be done in the future let's talk about the social fabrics when you were in school your friends took you to hospital of course they didn't know what was your problem but now later after now the people around you realised you have cancer how have they been for the last say 9 years ok it's very interesting because just like a normal journey for a normal person who is not sick there is always inflow and outflow of friendship and support system but we know that when a disease like cancer it's very challenging the way it affects you because right now in 2012 I'm not going to school so you don't meet your friends often they're wondering where did this guy go some of them know exactly what you're going through and becoming more intimate with you they show support they visit you when you're admitted or when you're at home so the support system can actually grow and be more stronger for you but it can also diminish people the friends can leave you friends can disappoint you all these happen they're realities and everybody has a reason for being with you during the moment of difficulty some of them want to support you genuinely some of them want to learn from you your own journey some of them want to connect more with you some of them find it really difficult because people are different somebody can be over when Mazi Omondi is going through a lot because I had a lot of friends who couldn't come to visit me because they find it really difficult when they saw me in bed bed reading in kama for days actually made them really emotional so I understood that part but also I felt grateful because my journey was now attracting people that are going through challenges that are different unique to their own lives it could be cancer it could be another disease it could be just general life difficulties and I found gratitude in that cancer treatment and management of course comes with a load of a baggage of the treatment fee the cost it's very expensive how did you go around this? I would say I'm lucky because at then I was still covered by my grandmother's insurance and then for most people they start from scratch people don't have an HIV they don't have any form of insurance they don't have any source of income and they're struggling with other aspects of their life so when they get the diagnosis how do we do this? because the drugs are expensive the treatment plan is expensive and it takes a toll on your mental health it takes a toll on your physical health so that you can't even go to hassle so that you can fend for the doctor's fee and the x-rays and all that so for me I think I was lucky I consider myself lucky at least but it got very bad because after some time when I hit 25 I couldn't be covered by my grandmother anymore because of age so that means we had to depend on well-wishers and donors and doing fundraising here and there so that we can support the treatment and I think also that's a story for many cancer survivors they do a lot of fundraising here and there they look for well-wishers, family members friends support them so that's also my journey at some point I saw you you had to go to India for treatment how was it? how did people come around for you and how was the treatment requiring to go for the phase 2 how is the situation now? going to India was a journey it didn't just happen because in 2015 when my cancer started to spread through the body spread to the bones and the brain I kind of lost hope I had exhausted everything literally everything I had I lost a house so I was imagining actually I also defied for the third time so I was a very dejected young person I thought in all this world how can I go? actually at this point were you hustling? I was actually working I was working with Chase Bank Chase Bank had just entered into the market the Kenyan market so we were young interns within Chase Bank but now I couldn't work anymore and you were having treatment and you're still struggling I want to do classes again because I was doing two classes then during 2013 and 2014 so when I sort of felt like I was exhausted I said I'm going home I'm going back home to my grandmother and to be honest I felt like I had lost hope and I always tell people at that point losing hope is not like losing hope is more like you don't imagine a life outside your current mindset for example you lose a child it was your only child now you don't imagine that you might get another child you don't imagine that this new child could give you even a better joy or a better opportunity as a parent you're stuck within that mindset so that is the place I was in 2015 I was like it is over for me now I'm just waiting for it actually I said I was waiting for my death so I went home and I said whatever will be will be but you know life is very funny life does not happen the way you imagine it I just struggled with it there was no medication I was not going for my clinics I was just basically living my life in the village just struggling with my grandmother I used to cook for me I was basically bedridden in a wheelchair it was difficult so during that process we used to get a lot of prospect like should we try something else but now we were wondering if you want to try something else we need resources, we need money we need people I already have people people is the first resource anybody has whether you're dealing with mental health education any aspect of life people is the first resource so I already have people I already have people in my corner I already have friends people who can donate money just build up to get that money that we need for treatment but I was also still afraid because I had done a series of fundraising so there's a time where you feel guilt you feel ashamed to ask for more money for your friends and support system but eventually for you to leave and then accept that you're vulnerable you need help and help can come from people so that is the point also when the idea of going to India came up and we sought consultancy with hospital in India Apollo hospital in India and it drafted our fee and we said 4.7 million is not so high we could get it so we did a series of fundraising and the most remarkable one we saw it we will win so when I was thinking about it I thought at some point I cannot be selfish with my story my story now belongs to a lot of people because a lot of people are invested in it so I thought of we and then I said we'll because I was still hopeful the hope was coming back to me or imagining a future that is possible whether I'm still sick but I can still do one or two things about my life and it's not just the disease going away but surviving with the disease despite the disease so we will win that is the tag that we did in 2016 and it was run by artists and former colleagues at the University of Nairobi when you say artists are they the musicians visual artists like I told you I'm a poet and I also paint for therapy so all this community of artists in Nairobi to run the tag and we did the fundraising in 2016 that is the fundraising that enabled me to travel to India for my first one treatment I hope you have a peace for us you were a poet before me Hello, I'm a writer I write only now let's talk about one of the issue that has been affecting people with their chronic conditions stigmatization and maybe being mistreated how has your case been because I think stigma happens almost where we are the person it could be subtle, like very low key very hidden or indirect or it could just be direct I had both at some point when I was diagnosed a close relative of mine told me liver cancer has very poor prognosis prognosis is how they envision how your life would be like if most people have a life expectancy when you're diagnosed so for liver cancer it's never 7 years and that can go down depending on your stage and depending on the general profile of your body so when I had that this is somebody who is a relative who is very close to me they are obliged to at least give you some hope so when they told me that I felt like they didn't believe I would heal at all and then also the losing of friends that really affects you because you imagine you also want to be there for them even if it's a little way so that also I think also the idea that you are a young person and you have cancer there's a way cancer affects your body it's you, like those days I was not this big or this healthy I was very thin and you're losing your hair so people are wondering what's up with this guy for those who don't already know your story so they avoid it there are misconceptions about it and that's very difficult and then also the other thing stigma can happen in a lot of ways it's like economical stigma cancer only affects rich people which is not the case we have very young kids newborns we have all the people 80 people like me who was 19 middle age 40 it affects everybody whether you are poor each small, young and all that so that's also a way that stigma manifests itself now 9 years down the line you have managed to stand amidst the storms even in this stigma we have people who don't know how to go around being stigmatized they will break down on anything they hear how are you able now to manage yourself? first of all I think like I told you before cancer when you diagnose it it's like you're grieving somebody or you're grieving yourself so the biggest step for me that helped me I think it could also be very helpful for many people is acceptance you have to accept your situation and you don't have to ask yourself a lot of why like why me okay you're allowed to ask during the initial stages of your diagnosis but after that just get back on your feet very fast because acceptance goes a long way in terms of being realistic you're realistic because I have a disease this disease what can we do about it we can do treatment do I have the money I don't have the money who can help me can I solicit funds from friends yes we can do that so all these things are possible ways of looking at your life without getting stuck that oh I'm stuck I cannot go anywhere there's always help out here and you know the way Kenyans Kenyans are very strange people Kenyans they come and show up for you whether you are from a different tribe another economical group they show up for you and Kenyans have shown up for me and some of them I don't even know them by name so it's very possible that if you have a genuine case that needs help you can always be helped I think a lot of people get stuck when they feel help cannot come yes when you seek help there are a lot of things that will come people will believe you people will stigmatize you people will mock you people will ridicule you that happens we are all humans and that is very normal for anybody who is seeking help they always say when you are vulnerable imagine you are a child you depend to be fed you depend to be clothed and bathed you are very vulnerable that is the point for any cancer survivor so for you to accept help you have to accept that you are vulnerable it's very good to actually seek therapy because therapy helps you ground yourself within yourself and also around the environment that you live in and then also be very deliberate with your treatment plan ask questions for your doctors ask them what will this do for me this medicine that you are prescribing for me how will it affect my body for how long will we do this treatment plan you see that most patients are not knowledgeable about the disease or treatment plan but if you are just like when you go into a football page you know exactly where your position is and what function you are playing within that field so the same thing with knowledge about your disease it helps you ground yourself it helps you understand more what you can do because at the end of the day the doctors only do a very small portion when you go back home there is the diet there is how you take care of yourself there is your mental health alright now you have spoken of the people standing with you now you decided to give back to the society by creating awareness I have seen a number of platforms you have tried to create awareness how has that been for you and how is the reception out here well first we have to go back to the point where I was still ashamed still not very ready to go public with my story in 2015 and then 2016 we did the fundraiser that is actually the prime time of my opening about my story and many people were sort of really really shocked because they couldn't imagine how I held it together for those years that many people realizing so that actually revitalized my advocacy and campaigns and that was also the point where I also joined many cancer organization Africa Cancer Foundation we also created Kisumu Cancer Foundation with a friend of mine I don't know whether I think a lot of people know him Jadoody he passed on last year so we were young people when we were joining to create Kisumu Cancer Foundation we thought a lot of young people were getting diagnosed during that time we were learning of a very significant statistic a lot of young people were getting diagnosed and young people find it difficult like we did when we were diagnosed find it difficult to open up about their story but it's the same story when you share it out the story does not now belong to you it belongs to a lot of people who find inspiration in your story who find resources who find insight because for example if I'm diagnosed now and then maybe one day you come to me and tell me maybe a cousin of mine or friend of mine is diagnosed what could we do already I know a few things during my journey that could be helpful for your case so that is exactly what prompted me to start Advocacy and then also I used to blog a lot I used to have a website that I could share my story from my journal during my treatment plan and then that was very good because I saw a lot of positivity from the responses I was getting I was getting invited to hospitals to talk to young patients we were doing campaigns all over the country through this organization ACF and KCF and I also partnered with Kijabi Hospital to teach the kids how to paint the kids who are going through cancer so those actually in as much as I was also giving back to the society they also opened up my story to them they allowed me to heal father because I told you healing is not just about the disease going away it's also about the fulfillment you get from your life that it has some purpose now who are you partnering with and the stakeholders and maybe the government do you think they are doing enough to ensure the cancer management the treatment we've been having calls to have every maybe the machines other than going to India or any other country to be treated we can have that here do you think enough has been done? I don't think it has been done but the thing is in Kenya there's a unique problem we have a very brilliant very beautiful strategic plan for cancer I don't think many people do do know about it we also have a parliamentary act that is supposed to help mitigate the cancer so we have calls to make cancer a national disaster I don't think we need that we need to enact and enforce the issues that were raised within the strategic plan if you can implement those issues then we have a long shot at actually defeating cancer in this country I think it's very common to hear people say we need a special cancer hospital in Kenya at least maybe even five or at least in every county these are things that are enforceable they are not far fetched we can do them because we have the resources and I think also we need to accept the fact that the government has not really done so well in terms of health in general right now when COVID happened that is now the moment we realise how how defeated how broken down the health the health care is the country so I think there is a lot that is supposed to be done but it's also important to know that campaign advocacy has opened the voices and has enabled us to know what exactly we need to do we need to build a robust public health care because previously we didn't know that something as simple as spitting on the street could be detrimental to another person's health this is something that COVID is exposing so the thing about cancer for the past 10 or so years it has been exposing our vulnerability what we need to address so we need more remuneration for the doctors we need more training we need more specialised training because cancer is very hard to defeat but just a general practitioner of a doctor or an MD we need specialised care so that we train our doctors oncologists who are actually dedicated to cancer cancer treatment and then nurses and then maybe radiologists who actually do the imaging and then we need at least maybe we have like renal healthcare for kidney we need also specialised cancer wards if it's not maybe a wing within for example in K&H maybe we can have a whole hospital dedicated to cancer we will enable us to cut down you know medical tourism where people travel to Europe and Germany and India to seek treatment that can be done locally so I think as much as the government is trying because health sector is one of the most crucial areas of a country and the government has really tried to fund it give it more funding than other sectors I think there is more they need to be good with good political will every other time when challenges happen we see politicians flying abroad to have their treatment does that mean that we do not have doctors who could do the same treatment here of course we do we have very brilliant doctors around and we could also build hospitals dedicated to these issues that are affecting us and we could also focus more on primary healthcare because the moment you neglect is like building something fascinating for example about Nairobi we build a lot of scrapers but deep down we still have ghettos so primary healthcare is very important in terms of mitigating cancer so that for example when I was at home in 2015 I used to go to a dispensary and I would only be given paracetamol maybe 5 of course paracetamol is very ineffective for cancer pain I'm imagining a situation where we have a very robust primary healthcare where the dispensary can follow referral to a point where if they need if they feel like they cannot handle you they refer you to the next level if that next level cannot handle you they refer you to the next level until they come to a national referral system now that's where they need a specialized facility now if they have to of course review your profile and see what do you need now that you refer you to a specialized care this can only happen if you have a good primary healthcare system well that's a good message I'm hoping it has gone out there and people have had as we finish allow me to ask you this question for the sake of me and someone who is watching 9 years down the line how are you right now that's a very difficult question to ask but I think I am grateful I'm really grateful because it could have been worse because I didn't become selfish with my story I shared it and I continued to share it the days that I feel I shouldn't share it I feel overwhelmed but I still pick up myself and say this story is not mine alone I have to just reach out to more people when the cancer came back last year I went on a remission remission is where you go to a point where the cancer is not there they do a scan and they tell you so I went through that after 2017 after I came back from India so the cancer went into remission and then it came back last year so right now I'm doing treatment again kimo and radio at a better point than I could have been 10 or so years you all have come I'm giving you 30 seconds this is your camera tell the people out there one thing they need to know and maybe make a call to stakeholders and the government this is for everybody who is going through cancer cancer affects a lot of people the patient, the caregiver and the support system I think love goes a long way in terms of how we manage cancer we need to really be more deliberate with our love we do not need to stigmatize people farther than they really are when somebody is diagnosed they are really vulnerable so stigmatizing them farther I think that sort of affects them in a very negative way so I think I'm really appreciating everybody who is doing anything that they can to support cancer patients to be a caregiver the doctors, the nurses, the hospitals the parents, the siblings that is a really commendable job that you are doing it's not something that can be worn by one person alone so I think that is where we need co-advocacy, we need voices we need support, we need resources so we are not supposed to just leave it to the government or leave it to the hospitals or leave it to the person who is surviving it we need to come together and talk more and keep the conversation going because through the conversation we get to expose the weaknesses we also get to learn about our strengths I think also this is a call to the government to enact the issues that they raised within the National Cancer Strategic Plan of 2012 if we do that we are going to we are going to be able to manage one of the most devastating diseases in cancer cancer is like the third leading cause of death in Kenya so think if we are able to be more open to be more honest politicians have a lot of ways of promising people year in and year out but there is nothing that is really done so I think it's a call for implementation it's a call for actual implementation if we do this because when we build a hospital or when we fund the Ministry of Health when we bring in more more medication when we build when we diversify NHIAF so that it can accommodate at least the old population when we bring in universal healthcare these are things that not only affect the cancer patient it now goes to affect the old health in general but I think we also need to be a healthy nation in general we need to be more healthy we need to be more positive we need to cast our tribalism and all that because all these things tend to affect us negatively and put us on old when we should be supposed to be a father in life alright thank you so much you have had the message thank you so much thank you for coming story I'm sure it has impacted someone out there and they have been made strong they will overcome not even in cancer even under conditions they know there's a victory in the end I wish you very well and I know you will come out again and you will share your story to continue encouraging someone else thank you so much back home for kipikans company he is Omondi Ochuka I'm calling him cancer ambassador he has made it and he will make it still actually you should have told us your social media platforms people can follow you just follow me on facebook that's where I mostly blog these days Omondi Ochuka is my name alright thank you so much now coming up next is politics let's hear about the commission allocation on revenue to the counties primary health is important is that been cited we will talk about that in a few minutes we take a very short break and we will have a conversation good bye