Hey, guys, bring us home right now. Of course you are. Who's on top? Who's on bottom? All right, and if you had to make an episode about apple bloom going to hell, what would it be? What would that episode of regression be like?  I saw our parents applejack. All right, guys. That just doesn't feel right. Looks like we're all done, guys. We're all done. They turn off the mic. They make something out of the bag. Hey, hey, everypony, welcome to a very special episode of My Little Pony, Thoroughly Analyzing. I'm joined by all my best friends in the whole wide world. We've got best guy ever, also known as kegstandard.  I'm kegstandard, and welcome to another episode of TBBAP. Take it, phantom.   We've got that. And that's all you got to say. Is that give a take over there? Hey, hey guys, welcome to Armortreeville act seven. We're going to be talking about homestuck today. That's a banned topic, you know that. No. Trigger word. Oh my God, Brody Curious is here. I even went back. I did it on the live. I, yay. Hi. No longer a zombie. I'm glad to say I want to revive the whole CUNY market possible. Have you been max revived? We've all been max revived. Let's be real. We've got the mage pony. Yeah, or Rorygne. Oh, that's the full name. Okay. I knew that. I knew that.  I'm a failure. We've got the munchie with the tiny hats. Oh, I don't know who that guy is, because let me tell you, hey, PCP fans. He's the most recently acquainted best friend, strawberry milk. Yeah. Woven expertly into the grand tapestry that is my little pony friendship with magic analysis community. If you know what I'm saying, real cliff notes on my lore. I love sex. I'm not like munchie. I love sex. I like to ERP. I do.  I just love sex. That's my character. Don't wear it out. We're teasing upon. We've even got a brand new friend joining us for the first time, our new friend, TapeStack. Hey, everybody. I predicted that this movie would be great. Do you have tape in your mouth? I was gonna say. No, I just thought it was racist at all. Excellent. You see, we're appealing to all fetishes here. Oh, I'm reeling to that. I'm getting ready. I'm getting lubed. Oh my god. The gang is all here, buddy. Now, unfortunately, our seafaring buddy, Starbird Bow, was busy off pirating today, so he couldn't join us, but we will pour one out in his name. Gotta get the booty. Exactly. Guys, guys, have you seen it? Have you seen it?  The cinematic events. The cinematic events of all time, of all of the equestrian history. Guys, let me tell you, let me tell you, I walked outside one graceful night, and I looked up in the stars, and there was the solar eclipse beaming down directly into my eyes, and from that day onward, all I could see just directly into my red nose was the My Little Pony movie on repeat, as thin as I am, and that's exactly why you should stare at the eclipse. You know? You know, I've never really had a religious experience in a religious place, but while sitting on my couch, watching the My Little Pony movie, I briefly saw God. Did you, Brody, it is just wonderful to hear you say that. I briefly saw God too, all three of them, before they were turned to stone. You mean all four? You mean all four? Duh, that's blasphemy. I can see you're rusty out here, Brody. Let's try and get up to speed, all right?  This isn't like some bum-fuck internet podcast, like the PCP. This is, it's better. Why don't you friends get over it, you anti-Haz bright. This is the PPCP, the Pony Procrastinator podcast. It's an alternate reality. It's the darkest timeline. Oh, it's the brightest from where I'm standing.  Should we go through it in order to chronologically like the best internet shows and nostalgia critic? Okay, hold on.  It just plumped us up real good. It just saddled us up and plumped us down real good. All right, everybody. As the creator of the My Little Pony Analysis community. Did you, right? I feel I could lead this discussion of the My Little Pony. Wait, should we talk about our history? Should we talk about our history first or is that, whatever, just go. I don't know. I'm gonna talk about our history and the movie all at once here because I want to know who else watching this movie. First of all, actually, more so than our history, I want to know when was the last time each of you watched My Little Pony. I know Hippo follows the show still. I literally haven't watched a full episode since I stopped analyzing the show in 2014. I watched like one episode from season five. Wait, that's not true. I watched a bunch from season five. But wait, Ben, didn't you watch all of season five and T-Bap it? Yeah, we podcasted it. Wait, you did the whole season five. Okay, maybe I'm thinking of season six then. It's season seven is out now, right? And season six is the one that, yeah. Okay, then I stopped watching after the podcast ended, but I watched like one, I think I watched the finale of the next season just to see if I was interested and no, no I wasn't.  I watched a couple episodes, I think, from season six because I foolishly made a list of like four episodes I had to review if big things ever happened and then I did some of them because I kept tapping and got pestered on it on Twitter. So I'm like, well, I guess I'll have to talk about them. So I did. I stopped watching right around the midway point of season five weekly.  Wait, we did? Yeah, we did. Remember when we were gonna do a thing but we never, remember when we were going to literally do T-Bap but it never happened? That was the thing. Oh God, that was like forever ago. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's when I watched. That's when I watched season six.  I don't remember any of it. If I recall correctly, you almost cried in an episode? What? Hey, nothing wrong with that. Which one? Which one?  The second episode of season six, you were like, that's really deep moral and I almost cried. Wait, wait, what happened? Tell me what happened because this is starting to come here. Nobody actually cares what happened. I'm starting to form into memory.  Damn it. It's like I should listen to my friends.  No, that can't be right. Okay, let's get back to this. I haven't seen anything since season five. Oh yeah, yeah, that was the one where the evil, where the evil got in her and made her be bad and I related to it. Oh, it got me in there, it got me in there. It got me in there, it got me in there. It got me in there, it got me in there. Mange, Mange, when was the last time you watched a new episode of My Little Pony? I'm actually up to date. Who? Oh my gosh. You're up there with hippo. Number one. I'm not actually up to date. She's a realer pony than any of us. I'm not actually up to date because the pony cast, we've been having a bit of like seasick, like cancer, like what do you call it, scurvy, I see that. Scurvy, sea-sick cancer. We and I have some sort of scurvy problem so we haven't been able to do any of those episodes for a while, so I'm behind on that. But I, yeah, season seven's good. I like season seven. No, here's the thing with season seven. If you haven't watched the pony cast, we discover that season six and season five, they're like, whatever, and then season seven, they start introducing a new main cast sort of. Yeah. Like that, like that good, that good changing or whatever. I will say that I have been watching the pony cast and that's the only way, it's been really surreal listening to that podcast because I can envision the episodes in my head. Like, even though it's been so long since I watched the show, I spent so much time with it that I know exactly what it's like. And so like listening to you guys discuss an episode, it just brings me right back. It's like, oh yeah, this is exactly what that would have looked like and here's what they're talking about and I can perfectly envision it and that was also what was trippy about this movie, was that for the first like 20 minutes, it's just an episode of my little pony. Like if you close your eyes because the visuals, you can't. Like if you just listen to the way the characters are talking, the things they're saying, the sound effects, the music, it's just the show. And then it develops a plot and becomes really boring.   Did anyone like the visual aesthetic? No. Yeah, man. I thought it was good.  I never stopped. I mean, it wasn't always terrible, but there were plenty of moments that were ruined by the way it was. Oh, let me have other weird big heads and creepy eyes though. I just thought that is hard. Yeah.  It's to the extreme now. It's definitely a weird game if you want to cut it.   I totally disagree. I think the extra frames of animation are great. I thought the way that there was more rendering detail and everything was great. My little ponies animation was never good.  They were still in an awkward and they were never good. And it was great. Everyone's saying they were like good, we're wrong, but this looks even worse. No, I thought the environments were particularly really well done.  God, I have the perfect analogy. It's about macaroni and cheese. You might have macaroni and cheese. It's made for kids, right?   I could appreciate this fully. But then once you get into your 20s, it's getting more like, well, I still like the taste of it, but I do like other tastes more. And also I feel like cancer after eating it like 20 minutes later. I don't know why.  Well, I'm talking specifically about Kraft, specifically that box, right? For all of us who aren't actively killing our bodies and everything, right? Yeah, so fucking, yeah. So that's the thing with macaroni and cheese, right? So the same thing as the MLP aesthetic. When I was, you know, when it first came out, I was like, oh my gosh, just so much good animation. It's like hot colors and fluidity and timing.  So basically this movie is like someone handing me a bowl of Kraft macaroni and cheese with bacon inside. It's like, well, that's gonna be tangy AF. It's gonna make me feel really gross, I believe. You know, it's gonna be fucking, it's gonna be weird. But it's gonna taste like really intense and just very childish in that way. So yeah, it's like, people always think, people always think that good animation is always going to be better no matter what. I actually fundamentally disagree with that because you can't just ramp up the quality of something.  I thought that looked absolutely beautiful and I was like, now that's something that just enhances the quality of this thing in general. Perfectly balanced. That specifically sucked. No, that specifically was good. It was like the best part. But the, you can't, to over animate, to like just the scenes of people talking and like looking at each other dramatically actually makes it more boring and worse because things take longer to do and it drags things out. Like yeah, I completely disagree. I think you guys.  No, no, no.  No.   I gotta say, yeah, one of the hardest things about trying to go back and watch My Little Pony for me is that the animation is dog shit in the show and like every, I don't know how the- This is the guy who watches anime. Well, I think we all somehow, like when you get into MLP, then it's like, like in the fan community, every unique facial expression that gets introduced is a big deal because the show by and large is just the same stock shit over and over again. As soon as you see like one face of new, everyone freaks out.  Yeah, dude, dude.  Like- I totally disagree. Like I enjoyed the aesthetic because I went into it with the right mindset.  I'll get over it later.  So I'm fine. Anyway, so I, after getting out of MLP, I discovered this thing called, I don't know if you've heard of it, anime, right? Now that's where like you have stuff that like, there's this one show called Kill Law Kills Inventive Animation and that's the really good- I love that show! Right? And then there's like this other show called like the incredible pacing and visual imagery of Sound God's to No Lion by Super Eye Patch Wolf, the son. That's a good anime I like as well with incredibly well-timed imagery. I've had so much incredible aesthetic. It's like, how much more exciting can a show be than Kill Law Kills Inventive Animation?  Like, you can't have anything better than that.  You're really, really milking this analogy. Yeah, well, I love food analogies. I'm not sure if I buy into it completely. Who does love milk, so.   The name is Tape Stack, Tape Stack. Yeah. I keep wanting to say cassette deck because that was somebody else's Pony-O-Sea and it's similar enough that it's fucking... Guys, I hope you guys understand what this podcast is gonna be. It's just gonna be like eight people talking all over each other all month and then long stretches of just DeVoo talking only. So just another episode of the PCP. Well, yeah, yeah. I wanna speak about the artwork, the animation. Do it, you're the one with the most animation knowledge. Oh, yes, yes, I know all about those cute things.   Oh, my God. Go on, get going.  Stimmer down. It's okay, he loves sex, I understand. All right, I came into this scene because I saw the trailer and it looked weird.  We're caught in the movie. And yeah, it is. Like the thing is, the trailer shows all the worst bits because it just, yeah. And anyway, I thought I would hate it because it was kind of weird. But I also noticed it's like they're doing a Disney thing with the pony thing. And I just sort of got used to it. And then I started to like it. I started to like the extra frames. I really liked all the moments where Tempest was looking down at the camera and she's slow, slow-mout move. She was the best animated character in the whole movie. She was good, she was good. In the new art style, yeah, Tempest was the best. So she was designed for it. Yeah. It's like, don't just use our venture. Oh, yeah. I'll tell you.  Made trying to talk. Sorry. And everything on the water was great. Yeah. I wanted to say that the new animation really suited Tempest the most, I think. All the rest for like, kind of like Gibb, like I said, I got used to it eventually. But they all were very sort of like still squishy and sort of soft-looking. The point is I've always been that way, but yeah, definitely to a larger degree. And you know how much I love soft-looking things. I think the problem is that like, the MLP animation has always had a really difficult time dealing with extreme foreshortened poses. Like even in the regular show, it's always like the thing, one of my little pet peeves of the animation style which persists in this animation swap is that whenever you look at like a regular design pony from straight on, the muzzle is never like done correctly in perspective. It just looked like someone slapped a shape on top of like a flat face.  And it works even less well in this more detailed style. The point of aesthetic is to add cinematic to the MLP viewing. And that is, yeah, you know, it's often derided by being overused, but in this context it's, hey, TV show that looks really good by its own standards that's been going on for seven seasons. But here, here's a cinematic version because it's an exciting way to deliver a little tight. It's definitely hype to see it that way. The problem is that I don't think the character designs translate well to it. Like a lot of the, when you see the characters in three fourths faces, like when you see that other eye on the other side of their face, that just looks fucked up to me. Some of the characters work better than others.  And they also added like detail to the eyes, like anime style.  The way that they made the shine translucent. That was the biggest problem for me. Hold on, hold on. Also, I didn't like the detail in the irises, like how the irises are all speckled and stuff. Yeah, I was cool. Okay, you know, I was never part of this whole analysis community. Was this what it was like? Was it this? It's weird that none of the other characters have that. It's just them. How did you last think? Just the main ponies have that. I don't know. I think my impression of the animation and of the, like everything in the movie was a constant series of, oh, that was all right. Oh, that sucked. Oh, that was all right. Like, like you'd see there's sometimes there would be a piece of animation that's like, yeah, okay, that worked. Oh, or a joke. Like, I think Twilight showing Celestia and Luna like the angles she wants them to put the sun in the moon at the beginning. I was like, yeah, okay. That's a good Twilight joke. That's something she do and say.  Oh, I'm telling you something about that joke. Mage, mage, mage, mage, mage, mage, mage, mage.  Okay, just like, I don't understand why the princesses didn't want to go with that plan because like, why? Like, it's not much effort to do that because like when later the guy gets the staff, he just plays around with the sun in the moon like it's enough for him. They gotta flex nuts on their junior everyone's plan. I have a great idea for something you can do and they're like, that is a great idea. And we totally could do it, but we won't. Good luck. Look, the princesses have to stay in character and be useless. Like, if they actually did something productive, I would have been totally unsold. And high in my teeth is better than you. I have something to say. When they're like, Twilight's like, hey, I need this utility so the concert will be cool. They're like, we believe in you.  Yeah, that's very much it. What does that mean? I'm sure you can do it. And she's like, no, this is what I want to do.  I don't think they're supposed to be able to do that.  Like, you're like, there's other consequences of doing that. I think they just don't understand math and they were saving face. But the Storm King does that later. The Storm King fucks it up later and no, it's fine. Like, everyone's fine. We don't actually do that consequence to the world after he does that. Guys, guys though, remember like, Twilight said that it was about the time when like the sun is supposed to be setting and the moon was probably going to be rising at around the same time. So all they had to do was just hold it for a little bit in the same place.   No way.  They know that the sun and moon are reliable. Now you should find his way on the seas, guys. And we have to think of him. Ben St. What? That's not my name. That's not my name. That's not my name.  Phantom Horde. Yeah. The sun and moon, they're not just over Equestria, right? It's like the whole world's sun and moon.  Cause like only the ponies do that with the environment? It surely affects the whole world.  These guys are like the world sun and moon.    That's just how it works. Sorry everybody cuts me up.  And this is just for a party that's just- No, no, no, no, it's sick. They wanna get turned bro, it's important. The sun and moon, the sun and moon could be contextual. You know, it's like in Dark Souls. Now, since it's 2013 again, you might not know about this game called Dark Souls where the sun is different in certain places. So I'm just saying, it's an establishable concept. No, if it's 2013, then Dark Souls is exactly what we're talking about, I think. I know what the sky is, I think that's not important. We have a whole sun and moon theory in the flat earth theory, this totally makes sense. They just go in circles. They move in circles around the, yeah, that totally works. What do I get about sun and moon? Get all the new Pokemon. All the new Pokemon they added were hard to get and I couldn't find them anywhere. They just had such low percentage. I just couldn't find any of them. Guys, you're missing the force through the trees. The point is that the animation, they all look chubby and scary, like vaguely like meaty.  I just wanna plump them up real high. I just wanna lift up their stomachs real quick, real fast, real good. I know exactly what you're saying. And just feel those chugs. You're entirely correct. And okay, that stems from a larger, I would call it a problem. And it's exactly what DeVu is saying.  I'm sorry, I tape-stack, tape-stack, my old companion in his beloved braces. He's a new companion. Our long lost son. Yeah, exactly. So I'm looking right now at a screenshot of the princesses at the beginning, and they look normal and good.  And that's the problem with this movie. It's everything that is involved with turning a cartoon into a movie I always hate, and it's never been done right. It's like I said, the style sort of fits like Tempest, and she has sort of a same facial features as the princesses. It's that nose shape. You can't have the little bubbly nose, because it doesn't work. It's not just the character designs either. This spills over into the narrative, where A, they have to baby us by teaching us what all the characters do every time. Do well. Yeah. The beginning of the movie was just like, hey, Rarity, you like fashion, right? Sure do, bud, sure do. Of course.  That seemed acceptable. I like how they established that Spike likes Rarity, even though that's the commandee relevant to the plot. I had a son of a roving to the movie.  I don't think it was about babying us. This movie just contains every piece of information about my little pony in it. It's so people who haven't seen it before can just watch the movie, of course. Not even that. Not even that. I don't think that's what they were going for. I think it's for fan service. I think it's so that everything they could possibly make. Dude, every background pony is in just the opening scene. Every single named one, everybody makes an appearance. Every callback imaginable is made. OK, and all the meme lines are in the movie. Yeah, I was distracted by that. Because I'm just thinking like, what? To people who don't know, there's the end of the movie. Everyone's having a good time. And then Bulk Biceps just shows up.  Noflame. Why is that Snowflake, right? Why does he have a tumor? Yeah, but that's my point. Nobody, it doesn't make sense that he would be there. I mean, Snowflake didn't make sense to begin with. He was just a random sight gang. I was really distracted by Rainbow Dash saying, three seconds flat, Fluttershy saying, yeah. Oh my god, when Fluttershy said two times. Yeah, when he said it the first time, I rolled my eyes. When he said it the second time, I literally hung myself. All right, the worst thing about this movie, I don't know the worst thing, but one of the things I didn't like was the fact that most of the main six, they got something to do. They either had a song or they were somehow helpful. Fluttershy said, yeah, twice and did absolutely nothing. I think Fluttershy, just like the regular show, she was in character. I made an itemized list. I analyzed. We're going right back. It's true. I'm in top with this. Fluttershy, I know.  OK, well, there it is. OK, listen, I analyzed this film with a fine-tooth microscope, and I determined scientifically that there were, of the main crew, there were a full three characters who did literally nothing in the entire movie. It was Fluttershy, Rarity, and Applejack. What about Rainbow Dash? What did she do? He helped her. She helped her. I will talk about Rainbow Dash. I will talk about everything. That's what Rainbow Dash did. She is, in fact, a negative. OK, OK, guys, OK, OK. This falls into the mean category.  What was with the weird insertion of the Sonic Rain Boom? The Sonic Rain Boom was never a mean. It was fanservice. It was never here. It was total fanservice. It was just wanted to do it. She just wanted to do it. It was really weird that she was so adamant about it throughout the movie that she keeps bringing it up. And I was like, why? She's not like that. OK, OK, wait. I got it. In canon explanation, Rainbow was meeting a bunch of new friends. She's in a new place. She wants them to see. She wants them to see her cool thing she can do with the Rain Boom. That's why she wanted to. That was in season one. It was so long ago. Why? Like any other game was in season one. Speaking of Rainbow, like beginning the show memes. What's the what's the deal?  That's exactly.  I'm getting. Oh, my God, that song is literally that song is my least favorite part. And I'll tell you why. Because when the pirates when the pirates were being like, wait a minute, let's cast off the yoke of the man and rediscover our true selves. I want I like the design of the pirates and I really wanted to get excited for that part. Like I could feel myself almost enjoying myself with when the but then the song came on and the song is time is time to be awesome. And I hated it. I hated the song so much that it really ruined that scene. I was really hoping that they'd have this big song. No, because like the whole reason they said she's like trying to get them to sing the songs. I don't want to get kicked off the ship. And I was really hoping they have this big moment of them like being, yeah, we're pirates.  Yeah, that's what I was saying, too. We all have been doing the opinions of this movie just backwards. You just here's what you do with a movie like this. You cooperate with it and reduce the point in exchange for your cooperation. So it's like as soon as the movie begins, I promise I won't have any food analogies.  Wait, are you are you doing a mysterious Mr. Enter right here? Is that what's going on? Is that what I'm doing?  I'm just being myself. OK, I thought you were memeing for a second. Well, I don't know. You tell me. Because mysterious Mr. Enter's thing is that he would start each episode with five points and he would reduce or add them based on whether or not like something good or bad. That is how I start my videos. They're great. I really like doing that. Immediately, I went into it, assuming it was going to be bad. And then pretty early on, I'm like, OK, this will be like a later. Wait, I wanted to talk more about the pirate. I want to say two things, too. Oh, god. We have to get organized here. We've got to get organized here. OK, to boo. Finish your point. Everyone has to be in this episode. It's got to be the whole crew. This is good. This is what the people want. This is good. This is what I want. Can we just analyze the fact for a second that this podcast will mean literally nothing to like 80% of our audience?  I want that. I want them to. OK, see here. If they don't know Peggy, if they don't know Digi, if they don't know Phantom, and they don't know Gim, and they don't know anything. The real point, the entire conceit of the PCP, I never told any of this.  This is what it's all been for. There's over 100 episodes of my little pony. Oh, you meant 80 episodes. I'm talking about other PCP. This is like 80 episodes now or something.  I tricked you.   Look down at yourself. That's the body of a brony.   And what a body it is. Well, while we're off topic, I want to posit a backstory for tape stack, if that's OK. I'll use a suggestion to do what I think should be good. The backstory of tape stack. Is that tape stack is a huge MLP analysis fan who has all of our stuff on tape. He had everybody's analysis is on video. And he had like this huge collection. He put his VHF tape into YouTube and recorded it. And then there was like a brony con going on. And he met all of us. It was hanging out with the group. And he showed us his tape collection. We were really impressed. And we wanted to be friends. And that's how we met tape stack. So brony con is now canon to the My Little Pony universe. Isn't it all right, though? I think they're actually a brony convention in the show where Patton Oswald was there or something. Yeah, that did happen. That did happen. And they just made fun of the entire fandom. That is a real thing. I want to complain about the pirates the more. Because they made me really mad. I do want to make two points as well. You can go first. You can go first. And then I'll go. OK, first point. OK, so like they're pirates, right?  Why would they think it's awesome and want them to continue to be pirates?  Well, I have an answer to that. It's because they're not actually pirates. When they describe their job as pirates, they say they're treasure hunts. They do not actually engage in piracy. The entire what called the pirates?  And it's like, oh, we're being impressed by the Storm King. And she's like, oh, be pirates again. And it's like, wouldn't the Storm King just do to them again whatever he did to subjugate them in the first place?  No, my first problem, I was like, I was like. Dufu, how is that not immediately what you thought when this scene came out? Yeah, that's what I thought. Well, here's what I thought.  Well, here's what I thought. This is the least sense-making thing I've ever seen. I was fine with Rainbow Dash Convince. That was the most movie was dead for me, by the way. Yeah, I was fine with Rainbow Dash Convince and going to be pirates again. But then when Tempest showed up, I was like, oh, OK, she's going to see that they've gone back to the pirate and they're going to get in trouble with the Storm King.  And she doesn't even care. She doesn't do anything. The whole scene, that was like the most clever emergency in the movie where it's like, you know, it's like suddenly lunch, it's a funny subversion. It's a funny subversion of your expectations.    They're like, OK, but apparently that makes no sense. People never have a point where they turn around to realize to stand up for themselves. They never find that. So I finally did, but there should have been consequences. If they were being subjugated, then it can just happen again. Yeah, if there were no consequences for them, for them going back to being pirates, then why did they start being shippers in the first one? They literally were just scared and there was no actual reason for them to stop being pirates. Do you not remember?  They were totally consequent. Yeah, no, no, they didn't bounce and not because they went back to being pirates, it's because they were harboring prisoners. No, I think they didn't realize they didn't swap their costumes. They didn't realize they didn't swap their costumes.   Yeah, no, no, that was a different thing. They should have immediately put their costumes back on or something. I would agree with that. No, I have to say something. I have to. I have to. Please, Stephen, please. Say it. OK, Rainbow Dash was like, hey, guys, be part, but not because she's a good friend. Rainbow Dash isn't a good friend. This is a fact. Here's the headcan reason why.   And they're like, OK, there's no apprehension or anything. It's just like, please be pirates again. Please, because I don't want to die. And they're like, yes, I will. Thank you. As Ben touched on, I thought that the point of the scene was going to be that the pirates were stupid, that they were going to have this whole up, like they're going to reform everything. And then the ponies, after having reformed the pirates, we're just going to skate or get brought to somewhere else. And then the bad guys were going to show up and immediately subjugate the pirates again. They're going to be like, oh, right, of course. How could we forget that we are under the rule of the Storm King and we can't actually just rise up out of nowhere because he's more powerful than us? But no, they just are characters now. And more than that, pirates are not necessarily good people. The whole thing of them doing the awesome song was completely out of self-interest. But they're awesome. That's why I say this script. That's why I say this goddamn script was baby-fied. There's this idea that pirates are just like cool guys who just like fart in the show. It's for babies. All right, all right. Dude, you spent years talking about the show. It is not. Oh, yes. Give him me to say something. All right, you guys are all wrong in every aspect. You're not thinking. Let me explain to you what my little pony is. It is a show that's all right, but it has occasional flashes of, oh, well, that's nice. Yes.   And they thought, wow, that's really unexpected. And they formed a community around it. And then everybody started analyzing it.  Pirates are cool. Airships are cool.  I liked it. The whole movie was great. And I can't believe you guys are. You have continuity errors, God damn it. The continuity errors. I shouldn't think them. OK, I want to explain how I watched this movie, because I did not go into this like I think some mothers did. I went into this movie like I heard it was bad from Ben and Jackie or Phantom. And what was her? Equity. Equity, that's a genius name, by the way. Let me quickly touch on the fact that walking into the theater. She was in one of her theatrics atmosphere soon? Yeah, yeah, it's important to me. She got accosted by some guy in a pony shirt who was like, are you going to do the pony movie? And right then, the tone was set for the theater. So a man asked her a question, and she was deeply offended. OK, I understand what the problem is. He was waiting around in the lobby. And I got the feeling that he was waiting around to meet his fellow bronies. And then he spotted two right before him, and he knew. Yeah, he did, his gar was on. Gibbon, you liking something big, big mistake? You're going to get knocking into some pins. How does that sound? Come up to your location about five, 10 minutes, going to knock you right down. Anyway, muche, you're going to knock you right down real soon. What we were talking about, the viewing experience, did you want to share your theater experience? Yes, OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, OK. Climb the rails into like random nothing, please. OK, OK, OK, I have a story. So I show up to the theater with my posse of insane clowns, and I just want to flip. I just want to flip so hard, and employees get sweaty. I just want to get plumped up.   But I order them, and they're like, what the fuck?  And I'm like at the naive fool I am, I say like, OK, I'm going to go wait by that side of the corner.  He immediately starts jeering me, most rudely, with his gnarled fangs and his angular visage. And he's just, he's telling me we're going to be late. I tell him, please don't be mean. I'm just going to be slapping around here real soon, right quick right now. The demon persists, the clock's ticking down, the minute it's right before the movie gets shorter and shorter, his flamboyantly hostile demeanor rocks the very coal in my spine.  Anyway, I get the pretzels, and we weren't late for the movie.  Stop being mean to me. And they were like, yeah, there's a lot of bronies and stuff. I also got, right before, right before my very eyes, my first movie, My Little Pony Certificate, they had like these like certificates you could get out.  For like all the five-year-olds who come to the movie, like ready to get their cinema cherry popped. And I got the certificate. Is that like the Mew? Is that like the- Write down your pony name, write down your pony name, write down your date of birth, and like day to day in your movie theater like place. I'll take a picture of her. Is that like the promotional Mew cards that you got at Pokemon? Yeah, exactly. Oh my God, yeah. It all ties together, the history repeats itself. The purpose was for like five-year-olds to like write down their first movie experience. But like everyone took them or just like 19 to 26-year-old guys. And they just always wrote down that this was their first movie they've ever- Whoa. Awesome. So the reason I wanted to bring up my viewing experience, I had already heard from Phantom in Equity that the movie was supposed to be really bad and I thought it looked really bad. So I was like, I'm gonna get drunk and watch this movie and I didn't wanna go out and pay for it. I was really resistant to being on this podcast. Yes, you were. Because I didn't wanna have to pay for the movie. We left you no alternative. But then there was no option. But then the greatest bro in the world, Keg Standard, as he would typically do, found an illegal download of the movie for me. That's right. So here's the thing. I watched this with my girlfriend who has never watched My Little Pony. She seemed like maybe two episodes of the original show and completely avoided it. Like thought it was like, I don't wanna be a part of this thing. I understand about that. I was smart. She recognized, because all the autistic people she knew were into this show. So she paid for it. Yeah. Such a fair significant other, did you, bro? So I went into this movie with a weird mixed feeling, because on the one hand, I was expecting it to be bad and I was drinking, and we were both drunk when we watched it. But I also really wanted it to be good because I want to convince her that I'm not a fucking, like I'm not saying you're reminding My Little Pony. Right, sense now. So I was- The wrong vehicle for that. No, this was, in many ways, the early part of the movie was actually good, I thought. I liked the first like 20 minutes because I thought it represented what is good about the character interactions in the show pretty well.  No, there's plenty of- I'm gonna knock you down. Lots of lines that immediately like get to the heart of like what's good, like you get that Twilight's like over, she's overbearing, she tries to prepare way too hard. You see the endearing qualities of Twilight in that early part of the movie. That was just to check off her character list, like oh, she likes that, check that off. No, I agree, I completely agree, it was just checking off a list, but if you're watching, if someone who's never seen My Little Pony before is watching this movie and you're checking off a list of all the best character traits of the characters, it's a good place to be. Did you throw me? Okay. She was laughing at the jokes and thinking things that are good about this. And I'm like, oh, yes, see, see, like every time something would happen that was indicative of something, I would explain it. I'm like, oh yeah, Fluttershy is like this and that's because of this episode. Oh God, you mansplained the entire movie? That's disgusting. Well, not the entire movie because then we got to the point where they start introducing the plot and it immediately starts going downhill and I start explaining, oh yeah, well you know, every time they would do a two-parter episode and they'd introduce a villain, that was one of the shitty episodes because it's not really like the show's about and it like, you know, so. It was, the movie was just like an adventure season finale with all the problems exacerbated. How many times have we all railed against those specific episodes? Oh, look at all these backgrounds, look at all these side characters that have nothing to do. Here we go again. Not just MLP, any show in the universe, right? What is the worst episode of any show? The episode that you try to show to a new person that's a friend of yours who's not seen it before.  Unless it's episode one or something. If it's a random episode. No, episode one of MLP. No, if it's a random episode that happened to be on and we're like just traveled for one to show it to a friend, it's always gonna be a disaster. The problem tonight, Maruno. And more vaguely disagreeing. I smile pretty much every movie, because my girlfriend has the exact same taste as me.  My girlfriend has the same taste as me and I show her everything that I like and she always feels exactly like I do. And I hated this movie and she hated the movie. Did you brony have sex just in case you didn't know, by the way. Well, I'm just saying that first, I felt like the first 20 minutes was a lot of me going, oh yes, thank you movie for proving there are things.  Thank you, my little pony movie for proving that there are things about the show that are obviously interesting or good so that it doesn't look like I'm insane for liking this. And then as it goes on, and there's so many songs.  The songs rain from mediocre to bad. The songs have always liked all the songs. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, you said that. Hold on, yeah, Jackie was saying that too. I completely disagree. There were a lot of great songs in the show. We all knew the words to them. That's a thing. I know the words to them to be there.  You cannot tell me that you don't like Giggle at the Ghosties. I don't like Giggle at the Ghosties. That's a bad example.  That was good. It's a good song.  I would have given the movie a picture. But here's the thing, even if you don't like those songs, you remember them, right? They're memorable.   The movie is not a song. None of them are memorable. I remember the second song. You know why? Because it was literally friend like me from Aladdin. There were no differences. It was the same song. And that was the only song in the movie I didn't hate. So I guess that's why. Yeah. Can we acknowledge the fact that the songs were absolutely pointless because they established something and then they take a few minutes to sing about the already established thing. Oh, hey, Twila, we're here. We're going to help you. Now let's sing about how we're going to help you. Oh, hey, I'm the Swab and Colton and I, but no sings. Her song was good. Let's sing about it. Yeah, tempest or whatever her name was. With her song is that she's standing in a room singing. Yeah, it could be more than nothing happened. As soon as that happened, I was like, oh, this is going to be boring. You're not wrong, but the flashback was good. The flashback was perfect. No, that was the worst part of the movie. You used the every part of the movie. That's the worst part of the movie. Well, every part is the worst part of the movie. That's beside the point. I want to address probably my biggest complaint about this movie is how badly it copies Disney movies. Yes, I agree. Every song is a ripoff version of a Disney song. It is. New character. OK, the main villain, he's literally Hades from Hergades. Agreed completely. Please go to Disney. I had that out in a blue flame.  Oh, I love merchandise.  I love his rebranding. Then you've got that different from Discord, though. I got the feeling they were trying to do a Discord lighting up. Here's an unrelated problem that I had with the Storm King, but why did he look so much like Tyric? Yeah, that's a big one. He was just like Tyric. Then you've got the girl, Tempest. All of her facial expressions are literally copy pastes of Isma from The Emperor's New Groove. And the placement of the Bunga character is cron. Isma was way more expressive. Isma was way more expressive, but all of Tempest expressions that she does have are copied from Isma. The fifth dog, Tony, was so upsetting to me. Her character is like Isma, though. Yeah, she's not personality-wise, no. But the animation is clear to me. Well, I mean, Tempest, a Tempest issue, due to my past racial dysphoria, which I have fully overcome and embraced in a uniform identity, by the way, that's all in the past that's over. But due to those past unpleasantnesses, I was heavily triggered. I was heavily triggered by Tempest. And I was very interested in hearing her backstory, and I was so let down when I finally heard it.  You see that she's a unicorn and her horn's broken. What's her backstory is that she broke her horn. That's the whole thing. And it's not like she was betrayed by her friends.  And she was like, nah, I want my bull brain.  Yeah. And understandably, she's a little upset about it. Yeah, it's understandable. I was just very underwhelming. Her friends are like her because she's crippled. That's the reason. Come out and say it, move. It's come out and say it. Chris Reyes and Sunshine Rainbows, they hate crippled people.  So that's the problem. Ponies don't have white people. They only have black people. Exactly. They're human white monkeys. Weird cat man whose design I hate. And also, why was he so black? Yeah, he was the mean zebra. Why he was so black?  Yeah, that's the point. It was literally, she had a server called Jamal. It doesn't matter, it's fine. She had server called Jamal. And she was like, ooh, I'm gonna need to see bath.  It bothered me that he was the only cat. It bothered me that there were no other cats beside him. I think it's weird that maybe if everyone in the town was black, it would make sense. But just the fact that this guy is super black when nobody else says he doesn't like that. Dude, put that aside. Because the weird thing is the Sea Pony Queen clearly has that accent. And then her daughter just does nothing like that. Not even close. Not even close. She's Pinkie Pie, too. What's the deal with that? Cat bro's animation is clearly based on the black guy from, well, the black pad guy from Princess and the Frog. Whereas the song of these things is Friend Like Me by Jeannie. The whole movie is just cobbled.  This is just cobbled together ideas of other movies, other better movies for that matter. That happens when you try to like it, dude. I want to harp on the similarities between the cat guy and Aladdin specifically. Because he has the same sort of like MC Esher lower body that Aladdin has when he moves. He's in this desert type rule of setting, which I hate, by the way.  But also, there is this specific shot in that scene where he is like he's lowering down a plank across two buildings for the pony, which is literally a screen redraw trace of a shot from Aladdin. That exact same shot is set up and composed like an exact shot from Aladdin, where Aladdin puts down a plank between buildings for Jasmine. During the whole pirate scene, I got to think of a pony name for my girlfriend. I don't know. Whatever pony she is was pointing out that the pirate scene was very reminiscent of Atlantis, the Disney movie Atlantis, the design of the parrot character. The function of this movie is if you're into the pony-brownie mindset, then it's a, hey, here's an episode that feels cinematic.   You know, there's always conceit you have to accept if you want to have a tolerable experience. The problem with your premise for me is that I don't like the show anymore. So it's not like if I just view it as an episode that's cinematic, then it's like, why am I watching my pony? No, absolutely. No, that should be the review. The review should be, well, it's actually going to be cinematic, but I don't like the show anymore. It says, why wasn't it the masterpiece? I want to say something. Go ahead. Since we're on the subject, give or take. It's like the writing of the whole thing was absolutely abysmal. I'm so disappointed in the writers. Like they couldn't even do a proper like Chekhov's gun. Like I wanted to say this point a lot earlier when we were talking about the rain boom, by the way. It was the second point I never got to. Like the whole rainbow thing, I think that was their attempt like a Chekhov's gun. Like, oh, she wanted to do this, but she couldn't. Then they mentioned it a second time, but she didn't. And then eventually she got to do it. And that's like the worst application. Or something ended up being useless. Yeah, that too. But like and like they're so incompetent. Like the like the main five, like they made absolutely useless, but they were so common that they couldn't even like divide the uselessness equally between the main five. Like let me just finish. OK, all right, fine, fine. It's just like because they gave Pinkie Pie all the reactions and because they gave Pinkie Pie all the reactions. She's just kind of like the main one. But like she completely killed the tone. Every time the tension was up, she killed it because they gave her the reaction. They gave her screen time and she killed everything. I destroyed the world. Even more than just the jokes themselves being bad, which they all were. There was like, I think there was like one or two. There was there was exactly one joke that was funny. And it was when the pirates are like, let's let's let's do bad things. And one of them says, let's scar them. And they're like, oh, I got it. Emotionally.  But we're going to need it, honestly. I laughed at some of the Bunga jokes. Oh, no. Oh, what the hell, dude? That is just graceful. Dude, I'm just selling up cowboy.  I'm going to knock you down. I'm not very critical of comedy. If it I like the whole I liked Bunga. Bunga was like, surprisingly, not terrible, by the way. Yeah, I thought it was all right. No, not terrible, but not good. OK, if I can say what I what I didn't like about him is that as the movie went on, I felt like he got progressively more retarded.  He seemed like more of a like like weird like he he thinks he's a badass kind of. But like also it's just like a sort of almost like a stoner comedy kind of guy. Like just yeah, like very as it goes on, he starts acting like more. There's a lot of characters that seem kind of like they're like done with improv behind the microphone. And it's it's it's competent, but it doesn't really fit the whole format of the MLP thing. So I also I will compliment this movie on the fact that all the new characters have better voice actors than anyone in the actual show. Yeah, true. Like they definitely brought in like real actors or something. I don't know who any of them are.  Well, I have no problem with that. I really like Tempest's voice. You know, that's Emily Blunt, by the way. Emily Blunt of the movie was ranging from OK to pretty good sometimes because I was having a relaxed viewing experience. I could just naturally notice things. For example, when the by the way, it was a real OK. I'm sorry. When the when the assistant guy who was like Cronk shows up, right, you see him come out of a ship and you see him holding a box, you can't see him. All you can see are his feet. And I particularly thought out of my head by pedal. So it's it's, you know, going into this movie, you're thinking ponies, ponies, ponies, ponies, four legs, four legs, four legs, two legs, contrast, right? That's why I like the whole like going on an adventure thing.  I sure as hell feel like I were not in Equestria anymore. Right. That's the whole reason I like that whole scene, right, of the contrast. And also a nice directing technique that was so well done. You probably never noticed it. I feel like weird characters like that show up in Equestria. Well, the level of contrast was what I wanted out of a cinematic experience, right? So then the whole adventure up to the point that they get to the sea colony realm, they're going from left to right the whole time. Ah, nice. You know, you always feel like you're going further and further away. Then when they go back, they're going to the left. Again, I went into it with, OK, episode with cinematic.  I would have given it a strong. That was the worst thing. That was hilarious. You took the wind from my sail for that. As it is, drunk, six or light seven is the furthest I could go. Davoo, I want to, I want to.   And it happened. I checked out of the whole movie. Oh, just hold on, hold on. I want to challenge Davoo's premise of the fact that we were like that we're watching it wrong by nitpicking it to death because Davoo, but as you said, if we watch this as just an episode of the show and the question is why are we watching my little pony? So the only justification for watching this movie is that we're going to do a podcast about it where we bitch about it incessantly. That's the joke. Fine. That is why we're here. Look, we are the heart and soul of the MLP analysis community. That's the real good old star here. Are we going to all watch the MLP movie and get into a podcast and go, well, you know, it was fine for what it is and then roll credits? Like, where's the podcast if we do it? I just think I optimized my viewing experience. Well, well, I'm going to say that I did not. I was not looking for nitpicking.  Just like it or don't based on the record that I had dragged kicking and screaming and coming up with an OC and then no one like refers to me by it. After I was I've been around for years. You just came out with it.  I was dragged into this episode. I was like, why do I need to be on this episode? I never did any analysis. Nate was like, no, you have to do it. I'm sorry. Keg was like, no, we're all like, you support it.  All right, well, who cares? Gib was saying something. Go ahead. Yeah, like, I was going to say in responding to, like, the thing Davoo said about the cinematic camera movement directing. I actually remember, like, multiple moments where I'm like, oh, that's that's neat. That's a cool camera move. That's a cool, like, special, like, they did that very well. The backgrounds and the camera and the directing was actually really good the whole way through. The scene where the pirate ship gets attacked, they did, like, shaky cam for a while, that was interesting. There was one scene that I did really like, and it's in a terrible part of the movie. It's when Twilight is sad and she's sitting on the rock in, like, a myth. That scene looked really cool and was framed really well. I just I want to point out, I've talked about this in one of my videos before, but when you do shaky cam and animation, that necessarily means that they have animated beyond the parameters of the frame and are shaking a camera through it, which I always think is interesting.  But, like, then when you think about the fact that it's all hand drawn, it's like, wait, what is the camera pointing at? So, yeah, that's always it.  And it's this awesome, like, four-part, single-shot takedown. That was, like, that was a cool moment. Yeah, I love Simba in this movie. I love the fucker. I love the fucker. Tom, Tom, you're saying something. I just wanted to point out something, like, I thought it was really funny how this whole movie can just boil down to Twilight forgets so you can teleport the movie. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was gonna bring that up. Oh, my God, that bothered me so bad.  Oh, my God.  Okay, okay, to be fair, to be fair, there was some weird stuff going on where it was shown that, like, the shields and the iron those guys seemed to be using seemed pretty resistant to magic. But you wouldn't use the magic on that. You just pop away. Maybe there was a magical field. It wouldn't be the comment on Tom's video. Like, yeah, it's not.  Okay, watching this, I wanna talk about the most interesting aspect of watching the movie to me, like, completely unrelated to the actual quality of the film. What was the most interesting to me as I watched this was I could see all the fan art. I could hear the fan songs. Like, I could hear the remixes. I could hear the lines that would become memes. There's the scene, I could see the porn. The scene where, like, a cake falls on, like, was it Twilight or Pinky? And, like, on Twilight. And, like, all of it's dripping off of her and stuff.   There would have been all of the bars by DiBroni World Speed. Actually, there might be, I haven't checked, but, like... If they weren't all herded into a room at Dashconn and assassinated. I don't know how active the community is right now, but, like, I could hear... We've all had a touch, of course. There was, like, one song that, um, because, as, uh, Equity pointed out in the, um, in the, what is that, what was the name of the, uh...  As the very special sun ponies pointed out, while I, unlike Equity, do like a lot of the songs in the show, they are all almost the exact same song. They all used the same chord progressions. And there was a song in this movie that did that, and because of that, I could hear the remixes. Like, I could hear where the beats would fall and everything, and it was really trippy for me as somebody who consumed probably more fan content of MLP than any other human on Earth. I mean, I'm willing to be forgiving of the songs for being all pretty similar in structure, because, like, this is MLP we're talking about, this is a kid's movie, we don't need, like... They just were also just not good, because the hooks were bad. Well, yeah, yeah, well, that's a separate issue. I wanna... Like, the good songs for old MLP were still simple. The way I've always seen the music, I mean, this is just sort of the way I listen to music in general, is that I like the instrumentality more so than the chord progression. I don't pay attention to what chords are being played. I like the instruments being used and the melodies that are going along with them, and it's like, oh, that's a really cool, little Spanish guitar bit. Like, I like that in a thing. And I liked all the songs because, regardless of how similar they are to other songs in MLP, they got good instruments, and Daniel Ingram is good at that, I think.  Hey, let me tell you my favorite thing about this movie, too. My favorite thing was, okay, so when Twilight reveals herself to be literally friendship-challenged, so like, her friends were all entertaining the princess or whatever, and it is in fact revealed that Twilight is like, okay, Twilight, having Twilight be the princess of friendship is like, hiring someone with Down syndrome to be the head of Homeland Security, like, they could be a fine person, but they're just not right for the job. There is no justification for that scene. Like, there's no- It's unbelievable. I cannot- Wait, are you talking about when she steals the orb? Yeah, I can't imagine- Just like in Dungeon Crawlstone Soup, and I digress. I'm just pointing out another moment where she forgets she could teleport. I'm just saying, I'm just throwing that one out there. And like, at the very beginning of the song, she's trying to get away from the guys. The princesses just did nothing, and by the way, they did not move. They did not like, say, go away. They just stood there.  I was so accused by that. Oh, that was- Did Rainbow like, swoop into Saver? Did she replace Twilight with- I guess that's what happened. I was very confused by that, because you see Rainbow fly in and grab her. But then- No, you see- Wait, Maze knows. You see Derpy like, for a few seconds, just before like, when it's zooming in on Twilight, you can see Derpy at the bottom left corner. She's just behind her or something. No, I remember specifically at that scene to the side. It was confusing, but I did piece together that it was Derpy. Just because it cut away too fast. I was like, okay, I knew there was a joke there, but I just needed one quarter of a second longer to process what happened, but it cut away.  I wanna- Speaking of that, can we- The ending was shit, by the way. Things dragged too long. There was weird, awkward, long transitions between scenes that really bothered me. Maybe it's a cinematic thing. I don't know, but go on, Tom, go on.    What is the basis of his power?  So it was before that, but more like- I guess he just had a really good marketing campaign.  The fact that this character Tempest, like why wasn't she the big bad? Because her whole point is that like, I don't trust anybody anymore, but then trust this guy to do what he says. So like, it just makes her look retarded. And she was right. She was right when I trusted him because he didn't do what he said he was gonna do.  She is Discord and he is Tyric. That's exactly what happened. And also like, she's like way too competent to be his underling. She did every single thing for him. She did everything. She did everything. It's so dumb.  There was some promise here that all hinges on of like, that he had the unique ability to heal her horn. But no, anyone who had the staff, anyone who held the staff would have had the exact same power. I don't think that's true because even though Twilight has the staff at the end, she still doesn't heal her. I assume that's because- I'm thinking that maybe that the staff wouldn't have actually let her do that because like it gave him power over the sky and stuff. But like none of the princesses have healing powers except Kayden's maid. I assumed it was not actually possible and he was streaming it along. Okay, but this is the issue I'm talking about. Why would she agree to be his servant like before he gets the staff and then bring him the staff if like he, why didn't she just do it herself? That's very true. Why would he be involved?  Yeah. What exactly did he bring to the table for? I mean, that's like, that's a pain. Like I guess the troops, I guess he gave her the troops that she needed. That is just general bad guy logic though. Did she need the troops though?  She had established when she'd go in with him.   He didn't see the bad guys established. Yeah. That's some headcanon there. That's some incorice territory. You go flush that out. Ew.  What does it matter? Okay. Since we're talking about this, I did want to say, so I was talking about my favorite part of the episode. It was when there's a brief moment during the assault, like when they're raiding the place, when Fluttershy, I know, right? So Fluttershy, like take, like they're all fighting one. It shows how each of them defeat them. Fluttershy like calmly, like acts like a psychiatrist or a psychologist to one of the troops. Like that's how she takes it out. I just want to say that was a really nice Dr. Wolf reference. That was my favorite moment. Who else felt it was a huge relief when they did the, like the Discord balloon at the beginning and that to me was a signal he would not be in the movie. And I was like, oh, thank God.  So, okay. I mean, I've missed a couple of times. Wait a minute, where was he? Right.  Well, the established magic in this whole show is kind of broken. Phantom hard. My assumption is the reason Discord, Discord isn't in the movie is because this script must have been written forever ago because Starlight wasn't in the movie either and she's one of the main characters now. So they just kind of crammed everybody into the credits.  Right after season four. Right. Like that's where I would say it takes place in the timeline. Right. So like talk about villains right now.  Right. So here's what's happening. Cantor Law was sieged and now that's under attack, but like the rest of equestria is still fine. Why did that go?  They could go back to Ponyville. They could go back to fucking, you know, wherever there is.  Use the friendship nuke. Yeah. Why didn't they use the tree? Remember when there were Native Americans in My Little Pony? I do. I don't think the trail of tears happened. The whole thing is done. It's like even leaving didn't even matter.  In the end, they just beat up the bad guys. They just kind of tip up. It's really smooth.  Yeah. I was trying to say it wrong. Dude, I almost forgot.  So that was five miserable reasons. Has this happened?  They play with that. I do. We got straight up murdered. It made me very happy. Guys, guys, though. Guys, have you, did you watch the credits, though? Yes.  No, no, no. Even the credits, his eyes move, so it implies he's still alive. Even though V for you keeps him alive. That ruins the only good part of this movie. That's making sense. I don't think that's even worse. That's even worse because he's eternally severed. He's eternally in limbs. He's like that guy in JoJo. He's like that guy in JoJo that Joescape puts into the rocks. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah, maybe that's why I watched JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, the show. Was anybody else actually a little shook by that? That a straight-up murder happened in... Yeah. Well, it was an accident. I just was thinking about... I was just thinking about... But the fact that an on-screen death occurred, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I believe Sombra was killed. I think Sombra did die. That was going to bring up a pretty significant cap. It wasn't very graphic, though. This was like, they show a shard of Storm King's head slide across the ground.  I hate to bring this up again, but don't you think that's another Disney trope that they ate is the villain dies? The villain died by falling, and it's not exactly anyone's fault. That's the funny thing about it is that I thought, I kind of thought it was inappropriate for the villain to die horribly in a My Little Pony movie. It was a little weird. A movie that has no real stakes and where most of it... The villain's like a goofy dude. Like, he doesn't come across as a violently evil... He didn't kill anybody. You know, like...  I hate... I just played Cuphead, which has me thinking about all the horrible, fucked-up things that used to happen in cartoons, and I want more of that. I want so much death in my cartoons.  I'm just saying that it's not... It was weird in this movie where, like, nothing that bad... Like, in the case of Sombra, if he felt like... I'm pretty sure he does die, Phantom. It was like a huge blast of light, and he's, like, evaporated. Maybe. But Sombra was a much bigger threat, though, than this dude. I love Sombra.   The only way to have a movie that would actually be significantly more epic is if it was, like, end of Equangelion and where, like, everything's all abstract and it all ends in the grass. By the way, what I was thinking about when I saw that was I really started running through my mind. That's a great line. It all returns to Muffin. Come bling down, come bling down, come bling down. My... That's perfect because it's a really inappropriate word and that's exactly what a pony remix of that song would be. Yeah, almost. But when that guy died, though, my mind started racing about the board meeting that must have happened where they were discussing, like, okay, what context is it acceptable to have a character actually die in? Okay, first of all, he's frozen into stone so that he can shatter and no one actually, like, does anything to him, too. He has to, like, be, like, Ben was saying. It's not specifically anyone's fault, really. He basically dies exactly like Gaston. Like, his aggressive action is what ultimately causes his fall.  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that guy, he had no powers. He just had a staff. I just, I don't... Right, and the fucking... And then he loses the staff.   Gotta love the lore of this world, right?   Whatever.   That incredible. I didn't even think about that. I wonder if you could do a cut of this movie where it's the beginning where he gets the staff or, like, gets the staff and then it just, you cut the entire middle of the movie and it just cuts to the assault and nothing really of value would be lost. I'm going into head canon now, but maybe it's, like, maybe, like, breaking the horn didn't rob her of her power just, like, of the ability to control it. And so, like, her power is coming out, like, raw and unfiltered now.  She uses magic all over the movie. She, her horn, like, works. She does fire with the horn. Well, it only works for that one specific thing, which is, you know, funnily enough, just happened to be her super special, she's Fizzle Pop Sparkle Butter or whatever. It was Fizzle Pop Berry Twist. Fizzle Pop Berry Twist. And so I assume that her, like, fireworks were gonna be her super special talent anyway. So, like, the fact that her horn breaking includes all magic other than that one thing she was destined to be good at. It's pretty neat, but I guess that's just equestrian destiny in action. Yeah, pretty much. Since we're talking about the staff, like, why do the princesses in their castle have this one thing where you put the staff in that can rob them of their powers? Yeah, I know, right? I know, right?  Like, it was a slot for this staff. There was a slot for it. Wait, what? He had the staff. He brought the staff with him, right? Yeah, yeah, somewhere else. Somewhere far away. Maybe they built that in, like, the week that they had after the pony. If you have to headcannon it away, it wasn't written well, am I right? Yeah. You mean three days canonically? Yeah, yeah, maybe in three days they carved out the mystic sigils required for the ceremony. Really curious that phrase that you just said could have been so helpful over the years. If you have to headcannon it, it's not good writing. That could have saved us so much.  Headcannoning is fun. Headcannoning, people like to not have answers to making headcannon.  I'm not sure we should really listen to anything that tall tales, known denouncer and lever of the My Little Pony fandom has to say about this stuff. I never left the fandom, just to say. Yeah, I'm still here, guys. I'm still here looking for life. I'm looking for life. You're best friend, Pantamorn, yeah. Alive and kicking. Here's what you don't understand about the Storm King and his ilk. Okay, so immediately, once he captured everyone, we learn about this guy named Storm King, never heard about him before.  Then we leave Equestria and immediately we're in his territory. He has captured all of these locations. The pirates are his control, the dead at town is under control. Yeah, and the Hippogryphs are completely outrun and completely obliterated. The ponies are extremely nationalistic and isolationist.  But as soon as we're in trouble, we're gonna go get help. Like, they're just totally gonna help us. Yeah, exactly what I was thinking. You know, first they came for the Gryphons and I did nothing. And then they came for the pirates. Then they came for me and there was no one to help me. But I could actually handle it.  She was actually pretty weak in that. Okay, okay, okay. Did you notice the subtle, not subtle, blatant racist undertones twilight explicitly wanted to establish an ethno state within this My Little Pony movie? She keeps saying we can't trust conars, quote unquote. I know, I know. We can't trust pirates, quote unquote. Just come out and say twilight.   Tempest, I don't understand why you aren't on my side.  What's going on here? Did you find it a little bit racist when Rainbow Dash is saying like this cloven hoove motherfucker over here? I'm like, oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa.   I'm not even joking.  So Storm King just owns all this land. The Hippogriffs who, especially it was specifically saying to contact have been already overrun. So like what was the plan here? Okay, hang on. Not even overrun. Not even overrun, but like it's been like who even knows how long since this happened. The city is in ruins. I've been there a while. Yeah.   Full disclosure, by the way. Oh, she's in character. Yeah. Full disclosure, I did not watch this entire movie.  After the sea pony scene, and then everybody getting mad at each other and splitting up, that was where I started hitting the forward button. That's where I wanted to hit the forward button, but I manned out. I watched like a couple seconds of every five seconds of the rest of the movie. Because I saw it, there was a new video digi that you made recently called Thoroughly Analyzing Ponyo and you talked about how you don't like those kinds of scenes in movies. And I can completely respect skipping it there, yes. Yeah, because that was, it was just, first of all, yeah, Twilight's trying to see the pearl with super obnoxious. And as soon as the scene started, I went, oh, here we go.  But, and here's what I predicted and I was completely right. They will not have to resolve this. It will just resolve itself. It was today early. Twilight will be captured and they'll all come to help her. It won't be that they have to have a conversation about like what she did wrong or anything like that. They're just gonna, she's gonna get in trouble. They're gonna help her and none of this will have meant anything. We just presume, we just presume that Twilight has learned something in all of this. There really is no, there's no confirmation of that in any way. And she would do it again. She would do it again. She says, friendship didn't fail me. I failed friendship. Okay, what does that mean exactly? Shouldn't she be demoted? I wanna reference. How many times does Twilight? He should definitely have to go on a pilgrimage to like leave for herself or something. How many times does Twilight get to learn this lesson before we just say your broken? Your most popular video theories on Alecorn Princess, Twilight Sparkle, your most popular video. You talk about how she earned her wings in the episode where she didn't even need to learn anything about friendship.  Now the rewrite for this lowest point scene would be simple AF, right? They do the song, Twilight's part of the song to the sea ponies and they do a great job convincing them and then the queen is all like, this is a fun song.   And then they're all super bummed because they thought they were being really nice and they were extending a hand of friendship and they got smacked back down. And maybe you could even have Twilight get a little bit agitated that all of her learnings about friendship didn't work this time. And she can still have a little bit of a kerfuffle with her friends. Not really ideal, but you can still have waxed in there if you need it to. And that's it. She could still be just as friendship intuitive as she was. Oh, and she learns that she has to, if she wants to do the job right, she has to steal and kill. Twilight at that point, she steals the orb and then she goes and kills the bad. Twilight at that point becomes a, she learns a lesson of becoming a race realist and realizing that she's a realist. She will simply not be able to understand her high level pony friendship because they are lower beings. I've never heard that general phrase before. That's awesome. A race realist. Yeah. It's a good one. Twilight Lydia is like, I know all of the lingo. A new race realist is born. That is a firmed race realist.  I know, cold-blooded.  She could just tell them her plan and they would talk about friends.  Yeah, they're not smart enough. Yeah, they're not smart enough.  Like the Prince of Thieves? Wait, no, Aladdin and the King of Thieves? These naive ponies still naively trust in the power of friendship. When Twilight has seen the error of her ways because the Catman was mean to them. Listen to this. So with becoming the Princess of Friendship, she has now got an actual state position and it is now her responsibility to look at for the well-being of the entire kingdom. She does say that to be in the movie herself. That inherently puts actual friendship on a lower level than the safety of the people of Equestria. So now that's not her priority. It's not her highest priority anymore. Yep. Okay. I'm about to drop a bombshell that's getting completely hijacked this conversation for the next 35 minutes. Oh, jeez. I'm either gonna be jeered or I'm gonna be peered or I might be knocked down. I might be saddled up. I might be plumped up. Some of you guys might hold me like six feet above water and like boil me, steam me, break up my carapace. Okay. Yeah, you guys might groom me, but here we go. Twilight, we've been out of this fandom for God knows how long we've been. Can we please stop pretending? Can we please just be on to ourselves? Twilight being a princess was always a bad idea and it was never cool. And could we please stop pretending that it was? Can we please stop? I have always said from the very beginning that Twilight becoming a princess should have been the last episode of my movie. Yeah, I completely agree. I agree. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I'm gonna disagree with that. Not to even bring up the fact that the how it happened doesn't make any sense. I mean, I think it's okay. I think it's cool, but there was just a million ways it could have been done better, which I believe Fawkes herself had in mind. I know Digi. Digi was pretty positive about it at the time. Yeah. Having a... I don't see any reason it can't happen. I just don't like it. Well, I enjoyed the episode.  I think, I used to say even at the time that I think it should have happened at the end of season four because there should have been an arc, like season four feels like the arc leading up to her becoming princess. Like when you see the way that people react to her, the way she's not really treated like a princess that season. And the way people react to her is like she's someone important now, but not quite. There should have been an arc about her becoming like famous or like known as a problem solver and like people are coming to her. And as she solves friendship problems around Equestria, she eventually is granted princess status. Maybe establish that that's a thing that can happen before springing it on you out of nowhere. The world of Equestria is a little too thin. The thing that I never liked about the princess thing with the wings is that, yeah, it was Celestia and Luna and that's it. And they were like super special. They were raised the sun and the moon. And then you can just become one and then there's Caden. For me, the thing about it is that this was my argument back in the day. They've become less and less interesting and the lore becomes more and more convoluted. And it's very clear that being a princess doesn't mean you're very good at it. It just means that you're... Well, that's the thing. That's the thing. My problem was a problem. My problem was...  I think it would have been easily possible to make Twilight becoming a princess and make sense in the narrative and everything. I just think that it was not... It was jumped the gun because of the mandate from Hasbro to do it. And then they had to kind of work the series around it. And it's not until season five that it starts making sense where like she actually is treated like a princess. That's amazing to think now. The Twilight has been a princess longer than she has not been. At the end of season five, season seven. So my biggest problem with Twilight as an Alicorn is that it means that the main six only has one unicorn now. And look, look, you know... Yeah, yeah, that's my problem too. Right. No, no, no, no, no. As we all know... No, actually, we might not... This might be kind of a secret information, right? But okay, part of the appeal of MLP is encased in autism. As you... I don't know, maybe some people have heard. And we all... We all... You have to chip away the autism to get to the My Little Pony goodness inside. I would say that there is... If you had a Venn diagram of autism and My Little Pony fans, it's almost just a circle. Right, no, no, no. We are all dead in the middle of that. And we're the only ones on the air. We're the only ones outside. I am in the middle of that. The main six, I mean, most of the ponies, they all have the same basic character shape with some slight differences, different color palettes. Sonic the Hedgehog is the same. This sort of symmetry is pleasing to the autistic eye. And two unicorns, two earth ponies... The autistic eye! And two Pegasus eye means there's this nice symmetry that's very pleasing. And it's really triggering my autism that they changed it. Right, how are you completely in balance, right? I totally agree, and that was actually... Like, if you read the very first analysis I ever wrote about MLP, like, my argument is essentially that, like, even though the show is like all flash animation and stock stuff, like, that is the appeal. Like, that it's so samey that it's like such a clear... Right, yeah. You can so clear, you can understand it at a glance, you know? You get, like, and you can make your own. You can inject your own because it's so easy. It's such a template, you know? Which is why it's so popular for autistic people, because it's all... You can, yeah, it's like, it's like what...  Tape stack! Tape stack! Yeah! It's like you said... Now we're getting familiar. Seeing all the ones and zeros in the show, like, when you look at the animation now, like, yeah, I think that's what we all kind of did from the start, is you see the ones and zeros and you like the ones and zeros, you want to play around with them, you want to program with it, you know, autism, programming, this is all... It's all a rich tapestry, this all goes together. So we're all in the spectrum is what you're saying. It's all a rich tapestry that we use to weave into a giant pressure blanket that we use to get to sleep at night.  Okay, but you...  You know, Munchy, I was really upset because when they show that kingdom from the distance, it looks awesome. Yeah.  So seeing this, I was like, oh, hey, it's like the art design that I expect from the show, and then they go there and it's just a generic, yeah, like bizarre, and I was like, oh, it's one of these. It's all one color. I feel like I'm watching Issa Kaye. It's all exactly one mid-tone color. You're not wrong. And even when they get to color locations, like the underwater area. And then the last location is like that, too. Well, like the underwater location, right, was all like... The C-Pony place sucked. Well, like, hold on. I'm talking about the top of the mountain was all gray, and then when they go and they're all sad and they're like, Twilight, you're mean, she's like, yeah, I am, it's all gray as well, it's all gray. I mean, the movie's weirdly gray. That is the trope, though. That is the trope of the breaking up the friend scene, is that it's a gray place. Like, if you watch all those Disney movies, it's always in a gray location. Plus, there was definitely an element. There was definitely an element of juxtaposing the pastel-ness of the ponies with the, like, drab-ness of these other environments, especially the ones outside of Equestria. I think that was the point. Obviously some of that was the point.  You're not wrong. Yeah. Wasn't the underwater place pretty good? Well, yeah, but I like that. I like that. I don't know about the underwater place. I don't know about the underwater place. I don't know about the underwater place. The throne room, not only is it that it's just the throne room, but also that the throne room is literally copy-pasted from the Little Mermaid. It's just the same place. Where's what you cut out from the Little Mermaid, yeah. I liked the song montage done when they were in the water place. It was enough to endear me to that place. I went to the bathroom during that song because I was sick of hearing songs and movies like that. See, I love songs. You watched the tour. There's a pause button. What's wrong with you? No, I wanted to make, I wanted to not have to watch it. So I went, oh, they're singing?  Oh my God. So that I don't have to watch it. Oh, that Digibroni, what an analysis. The integrity of all of your analysis work is now completely fucked. I don't trust a word you say. You shouldn't have in the first place. I've never had integrity. Hey, hey, we've been glossing over a part of the movie, which if you watched the trailer, you could have assumed it was a big part of the movie, but in actuality, it wasn't. That one celebrity appearance was literally completely meaningless and meant nothing. She only had like three lines. Literally just to trick people to see the movie, but it didn't work because I don't have no clue who the funny person is. What do you guys think of her? She's just some Stacey. She's just some Stacey. It's Sia, and it was Sia. I like her hair, I guess. Everybody's very important. Okay, her speaking voice, her speaking voice is so soft and quote unquote genuine. You're not kidding anyone. We know you're mean.  We know you're bad. We know it. Stop tricking people. What it's worth, Sia, what she's famous for is that she's an anti-celebrity, that no one knows what she looks like.  Is that why her face was covered by all this hair? Yeah, that's actually what she looks like in real life.  Didn't you know the swinging on the chandelier song with the little girl who dances and it's like the pedophiles. Do you honestly think I have any connection to pop culture beyond my little pony at all? Yeah, I know the one you're talking about. I watched the music video for, Tom, there's no way you haven't heard this song because it was like I heard it and I don't watch anything pop related, but it's cool. I don't know, you know way more about music than I do. Chandelier. Well, was it just like the ocean under the moon, you got the same as, it was that.  That's the one, man. That's Sia. You're calling her in pain. I'm almost certain that there was like a My Little Pony animation of this video, you know. I watch Sia's cheap thrills music video all the time because I love it. Yeah, Sia's pretty cool. Yeah, Sia's pretty cool. Sia's pretty cool. It's my fist against your, it's gonna slap you real quick. Wait, cheap thrills. Is that the other Sia? Up with it, girl. Down with it, girl.  I like it a lot. I don't know. I've seen this, but I don't know who. Okay, let's not get too hung up on this. The point is Sia was in it, she's a celebrity, she sang a song, she was a character, she was okay. I didn't care, it was fine for me. She's actually a pony, and that was a fake. Oh, whoa! Oh! Wait, wait, wait! This is the can and Sia. This is the actual one in the movie. The human version, it's just an avatar.  Maybe we're all just characters in a show that the ponies are watching. You guys ever think about that? Oh my God. It's like the Simpsons game for Xbox 360! Is that what that is? But yeah, she's in the movie for no reason. Other than at the end, they get to have the big concert that's like, yeah, now we have resolved everything. The fight gets to be that MC, because that's what he does, and it's kaha, it's good time. I did not like it, but I was gonna say, I didn't dislike it, but Cheese Sandwich makes a cameo in this episode. And it just makes me remember how amazing that was, the Cheese Sandwich episode. That's the perfect way to do it. The point of the Sia character is just so that's why I could have a thing to talk about at the beginning, obviously. But I'm thinking, well, obviously, I thought immediately in the beginning of the movie, well, at the end of the movie, some sort of light show effect is going to happen, and it's going to be, well, not underwhelming, because I'm expecting it to be completely normal. And that's exactly what happened. Chip Horn girl is like, I'm gonna do- Fizzle Pop-Man Twist.  And I'm like, yup, okay, you guys did it. You guys had a couple years to make the movie. You could have actually made something that was like really surprisingly artistic. Dude, they had Trixie already. They could have used Trixie for the fireworks. This franchise has a long-stoyed history of ignoring Trixie's potential and making new characters instead. That's literally what I said to my boyfriend when we were watching. I was like, they could have just used Trixie for the fireworks from the very beginning. Twila could have just asked Trixie to do the fireworks instead of the whole- Trixie is in the movie. She is. The name of the game in this movie is Redundancy. The name of this franchise is Redundancy. Let's be more aware of that. I guess Twilight must have taken Trixie aside and been like, hey, I know this was your bit, but just let Fizzle Pop have this. Like she needs a victory right now. Yeah, I would kill to have that seed, because I could see that happening in the show. I could totally see like random background pony being asked to step aside for someone else. That would totally happen in the show, and it would be hilarious.  And like I really felt like Pinkie Pie actually filled sort of a leadership role in that position, as well as when they decide to go save Twilight. Like Pinkie is the one who gathers all the truth. That's because Pinkie is the only written character in the movie. Yes, entirely true. It would have felt very strange if Applejack, who makes more sense to be in that position, suddenly had something to do when she hasn't done anything. Again, when you start up the movie, you have this giant box of conceits and a giant package of library, you gotta accept all of them. One of them was, all six of them were gonna be there the whole time and mostly it's not gonna matter. That's just what it's for. Well, that's the same thing that happens with all these adventure arcs. That's always my big problem. It's the Twilight show and her amazing friends. Honestly though, I think that there was space in this movie to give them all something to do. Of course, they can beat. If you wait and tell them, no one cares about. I think they gave an exceptional amount of time to Pinkie Pie because she is the most popular character with little girls and she's pink and that's what Hasbro wants is the pink one. Guys, do you think that in this situation of it being a movie, they could have permanently killed Fluttershy and Applejack if they weren't gonna use it? I was disappointed they didn't. They had the opportunity. They get caught in the crossfire when the Storm King falling. I've got it. They do some sort of weird fusion. Applejack and Rainbow Dash become one character and Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy also become one character. Then the voice actors is only after, yeah. Oh, wow, yeah. Have you ever noticed how Rainbow Dash should have the element of honesty in Applejack's sound? Whoa! We're blowing our minds. Dude, the elements are gone. Yeah, elements are irrelevant. They are gone! I just remembered. Did anyone else find it slightly amusing when Rarity's like, oh, I wasn't raised in a barn. She's like, sorry, Applejack. She's like, I wasn't raised in a barn.  I laughed at that joke. Okay, I get that there were two jokes that I asked for. There were good jokes in the movie. Goddamn, I forgot. You just forgot because everything after the first 15 minutes was so thick. Those are the only two good ones. There was one joke that I found funny. It was like it really surprised me in that one moment where I was like, yeah. During the fight, Pinkie Pie gave a present to one of the girls like, surprise, and then he opens the box and she pops out, double surprise. I wasn't terrible.   I was fine. I liked when she threw the first cupcake and they made it look like a blood splatter on the wall behind him. Yeah, yeah. See, there are different things in this movie. When the wind is whipping by and the goons are getting hit with pies, it looks like they're being ripped apart by shrapnel.  They're fucking, oh no. And it's a very MLP thing to do.  They always replicate a serious movie but in a goofy, fun, kitty way. I have a very important question for everybody. Was this better than Equestria Girls? Yes. Absolutely. Unequivocally. I don't know. I think it was better than the first one. How is it even a debate, guys, question? But not better than Rainbow Rock. Just think back. Just think back to that moment at the end with the whole like battle against demons, you know, what's her face, sunset. Yeah. Like that was terrible. That was terrible. I mean, this is really bad too. It was better than Equestria Girls 1 but not as good as Rainbow Rocks because Rainbow Rock is a high-end video. I think you're both beyond desirable. Guys, guys, can I just say, okay, so firstly, I quite liked the animation so I think it's a lot better in the animation department and like cinematic stuff. I mean, Equestria Girls looks like that. Writing, writing-wise, it's equally as bad. It's like the most basic fetch story quest without any sort of character arcs in it and lots of stupid stuff just crammed in just for the sake of being there. It's such a poor writing. I completely agree. The fact that all the other Tony's are youthful. One more thing. The songs, I think, fail a lot more than any of the Equestria Girls songs as much as I dislike some of them, they're at least earworms and I quite enjoyed the villain songs in most Equestria Girls movies, which, I mean, in this one, not so much. I don't remember it as quite as well as the any other ones. Like, I'm definitely not gonna- That Equestria Girls Rainbow Rocks songs were not, you know, the right type of rock music and I, there's not enough, you know- I never saw the other Equestria Girls movies, but based on- There's only two, right? Yeah, like four. Yeah, there's like four. There's a bunch of them now. Yeah, they're- I stopped paying. They make one every year. The third one's bad. The second one's kind of good. The fourth one is like- What's the fourth one? In the camp. In like a concentration camp? Anyways. Yes. I remember being the guy who defended Equestria Girls.  And I remember that- I definitely- Pretty colors, dude. Pretty colors. Yes. I definitely regret my position as having that effect because- I'm glad that history shows I was right the entire time.  And you specifically come up with the visuals on your video. Why did it take you like five years to realize that? I don't know! So wait, look! I can't even look at the show anymore! Like, I don't like my little pony French-Immers magic anymore. Can we talk about that for a second? Because that's a point that I was struggling going through the entire time watching this movie and up to this podcast was that I was trying to think of like, how do I enjoy this movie now versus how would I have enjoyed this movie if it actually came out like six months after they announced it. Because this whole time- I always think back to my experience in the fandom from 2012 to like 2014 or 15 or whatever. And I'm just like, I never understood why I liked the show to begin with. I could never really quantify it in a way that made sense to me. And when I got out of it, I could never understand, I still can't understand like, how I even got so obsessed with it in the first place. Like, it just feels so weird to think about like how I even did that so much. I don't regret it. But I just feel like so like, just, I don't get it because I've loved shows more than I loved MLP. And I never got into them to such a degree.  It was the power of the zeitgeist, man. It was the fan, it was how active and like fervent the fan base was. I got into it through the Newgrounds game Story of the Blanks. That was my first exposure and it really impressed me. Dude, I know, guys, I know the exact date I got an MLP for one specific reason. 9-11, 2000. No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm meant to spend. I got an MLP. I got an MLP on August 10th, 2011. And I know that for a fact because that's the day, the Know Your Meme on My Little Pony came out. And that's how I found out about it. And much of it was refreshing that page fervently waiting for new memes to drop on that date. My friend who was trying to get me into it, showing me Captain Hook the Biker Gorilla, Rainbow Dash presents.  It was like the most confusing thing ever. But I was literally sold on watching the show simply by virtue of witnessing how much effort would be put into a fan work. I thought, well, the show must be striking some sort of really deep core with some pretty deep spectrum going on. That's how I feel, exactly. I got into the show through TF2 analysis. Oh, God, no, I'm gonna kill myself again. Here's a question then. Do you think that none of us were actually, do you think we were all just tangentially fans of MLP and we're all fans of the MLP fandom? I will say this. Good question. The fandom wasn't even there when I started watching it. My enjoyment of MLP was sincere at many points. Yeah, I think there's a lot of good stuff about the show and it's a matter of, I didn't get into it immediately. It took like, I watched all of season one and thought it was okay. It was season two where, and I started involving myself in the fandom and it was more like finding the good, finding the nuggets of gold was what was exciting about it. Bringing, like looking deep into it and saying, oh, wow, when you really think about it, that's an interesting idea. And so like it was the analysis that made me love the show so much. But then when you're not trying to find all the great stuff in it and you're just looking at like what it is, like I realized that I got to a point with the show where I didn't start paying attention until three minutes into the episode because that's when it starts. Like a My Little Pony episode opens with just characters describing what the plot is gonna be for minutes on end, usually. I recently tried to go back and watch Apple Book season because it was my favorite episode. And the whole opening segment is just, big mega touch going, you can't possibly get all these apples. And she's like, well, I can try to, and I'm like, okay, I don't need any of this, you know.  It's so dense. It's not that good of an episode. Huh? What are you saying? Because you always said that's my favorite episode but all your videos on it were like, I like it, eh, eh. And I was like, well, that's one of the best jokes. That's why I liked it so much. It has by far the funniest jokes in the show. Okay, yeah, good. Because it's all your dry humor. I felt for a long time, like certain members of this group. Lay it down for it, Keg. Lay it on. A few members of this group, to me, really seemed to be making a concerted effort beyond what is actually reflective of their heart of heart opinions of the show and an attempt to distance themselves. And I get that some people might legitimately have been caught in the zeitgeist and really now they don't really care as much. I was probably one of the most, maybe I was one of the most strident in my desire to remove myself completely from the pony shit, just not talk about it all, do my own thing and just never reverence it or whatever.  I just wanted to start new and that's fine. But I am happy to admit, I go back and watch episodes of My Little Pony all the time, especially the Diamond Terror episode, is one of my favorite episodes of anything ever.  It is one of my favorite episodes of anything I've ever seen in my life, having seen it recently. It's really difficult. Well the thing is my tastes have changed considerably since that time. Like when I went into My Little Pony, I came into it from having been somebody who was like literally anti-plot. Like I thought that- Oh, you weren't anti-plot anymore though. No, you're giving that anime, stop so much ammunition right now. Everybody knows this. I've said this a million times.  Like when I was younger, I thought plot is the least interesting thing about a show and should not be paid attention to. All I care about is the characters and watching them interact.  Like, and that's what MLP was to me, was like a perfect representation of what I was interested in. But after MLP, really at some point during the show, I got interested in plot-driven stuff, you know, through like Mass Effect. And then I got really into Sci-Fi and Cyberpunk. And like if you look at what I was watching immediately after MLP, it was all Cyberpunk anime. That's interesting that you say Mass Effect got you into plot-driven stuff. Cause I don't know, I was way more into the characters than the plot at all. Well, yeah, that's how it got me in. Well, I don't mean, after Mass Effect 1, the plot was retarded. Okay, sure, but what I'm saying is that it got me interested in like world building and like all these high concept shit.  And now those are my two favorite- I still want to do a Mass Effect podcast at some point. So like in the wake of MLP, the stuff I got interested in is like, I don't know, I have like a much more adult taste, I guess, than I did even at the time. Like MLP was indicative of the taste I had at the time. And it is not now. And going back to watch it, it's really difficult to get through all the child-proofing, all of the like. All I want to say is people seem to forget that there are episodes like putting your foot down in my little pony.   Putting your hoof down.    I will never forget.  I totally think it deserves the credit.   Yeah, damn right. I still have all my favorites. I just, what I, it's weird because I don't understand really how I got so obsessed because I'd never participated in a fandom at all and never had any desire to. But now that I'm on the outside all these years removed, I just have this weird feeling of awkwardness because despite the fact that I don't regret participating as much as I did, like I'm back to where I was before and like I would never put that much time and effort into something like that. I will happily say that I was a brony. And I will happily say it.  It was an incredibly great thing that happened to me. You're still living in the after effects of the friendship. Oh, absolutely. We're, it was a great thing. But I will just say that was all things about the fandom that I enjoyed. And this is a community that I felt when I was in the brony fandom. Though embarrassing to say was pretty great.  However, like, I don't know, things change, bro. Things change.  Sometimes we have to hashtag, we have to go back. Now's one of those sides. You grow up in your taste change. But also, like, I mean, maybe it was always there and I just wasn't seeing it. But, you know, at some point, at some point, the tone shifted and it became important to me personally to get away from it. So as not to be lumped in with people like K.P. and Dr. Wolfe. Keck, Keck, Keck. It was important to my personal sense of identity that I not be one of them.  It's a show that, you know, we liked it at a time and now we don't as much. There are other shows and games and things that I have gotten into and then gone out of liking. And then maybe a year later, I'm like, oh, you know what? I might go and check that out again. It's not really any different. But the reason is like we're making a big deal out of it because it was... Exactly. It's like this, my little pony is like your first girlfriend.  You only care about the original one. You'll always only care about her and want her forever. For me, that's how it is. The thing that makes it weird is just that it was, it was the first show I ever had that I considered it. Shout out to my girlfriend, by the way. Get fucked, Michelle. I love that. Okay.  I loved animated death, but I never had one thing that I was like, this is my favorite and MLP became that. And I think just, I think a lot of my love for the show was just that I loved the show, therefore I performed that. It's like a or a boros. You keep doing it because you say you do it and then that keeps happening. And then once you break out of that, then it's like, okay, now that I've lost that, now that I've lost the idea of digi-brony, what is left? I just think that perhaps I approached this whole thing, because Ben and I never ever called ourselves bronies and especially I felt like that was part of what I did. I always approached it as I really enjoyed the show, but I never really involved myself with anyone, except people who were already cool people, like all of the people here right now. Like I only associated with those people. Ben and I never liked at all any of that rift shit, any of those other people. They were always trash and you could tell instantly. Except for Ben who loved it and was in TF2 analysis anarchy. He sure was. My proudest moment. Yeah, did you? The height of my career. I figured out. I figured out why I liked my little pony. I figured it out.  And the reason I liked my little pony, think about it. It came on August 10th, 2011. 2010. I was born. 2010. No, I'm saying I got into it on August 10th, 2011. You were literally 10. I was literally 10 is what I was gonna say. I was literally 10 years old. I was actually a child. I was like what, like 2022 when I got into it. Oh, than that, Ben. You're like 90. Like what are you talking about? I've aged like 70 years and the whole problem was like the Brony thing. Leaving the Brony fan really takes a toll on your soul. That's probably why I liked it, because I was a baby. The rest of us have no excuse. No excuse, basically. I see. I see. You get involved heavily enough in something like that and it becomes a part of who you are. Yeah. And giving it up. I know exactly why I liked it. It's the art style. It's very simple and cute and pastel colored. It's all the things I like. You're a girl, so you're allowed to feel that way.  God, I just want to be a musical man forever. Yeah. It's a great song. Man, you build a show, the thing that makes it unique is that it is the cheap, chintzy, five-year-old girl show, but done competently.  So it kind of sine waves right around in the pretty good zone. And I believe I'm looking around when it comes to Western shows with some poppy animation for girls. It's still probably the best one and that has a unique position. And if you're going through a certain dark part of your life having something like that, that can be just the right thing to pick you up and make you happy. And it's more of a time-in-place thing. And slap you down. Just like I'm going to slap you guys down. For me, it was definitely a watching it every day, discovering it as a news thing and seeing all the world-building and just experiencing it for the first time. It's a great experience. Yeah, and it was a great way to inspire lots of people to make the fandom. People say, oh, people just stuck it in food for the fandom. Well, the fandom became the kind of fandom that it was because of what the show inspired in them. I just dragged it out too long. Everyone of us here who was inspired to create art through the My Little Pony analysis community or whatever it was, I feel like we all had that within us. Of course, that ability was inside all of us to go do the kind of thing. But I am just so grateful for the show to being the vehicle that helped me develop it. I have such gratitude for it.  I really thought you were going somewhere else with that. Yeah, me too. That's much better as well. By the way, how long is this going to go? Because I accidentally double-booked this with a podcast with that anime snob. Whoa! We're going to ditch us for that anime snob?  Wow.    No, I accidentally double-booked her podcast. Bring him in! It's with the pause and select and all that. That can wait. I'll make them wait. Wait, we're going a while longer. I feel similarly about the show giving me the confidence to make stuff because I always wanted to make gaming videos. But I feel like if I had just... If I hadn't been part of the pony community and met anybody doing reviews and had a chance to test my abilities I probably would have ended up as like, I don't know, a caddicorous or someone worse than me. Someone just okay. Oh no, not hundreds of thousands of subscribers. I honestly think... No, not the subscriber count. I think I would just not be as where I am if I didn't have the community around me. I think this group was very much skebbed in the fires of the Brony fanaticism.  But yeah, I wasn't doing analysis videos at the time but I was following all of you pretty closely or at least some of you pretty closely. I never would have done anything YouTube related if I hadn't gotten dragged into this shitstorm. So I'm grateful that I was able to expand as a creator, do more things and I definitely gained more confidence, more skills and I have a ton of things that I've done and can do now that I never would have been able to otherwise. I am extremely grateful to the Brony community for allowing me to take advantage of them to launch my career. It was a very small pond that I was able to be a big fish in by being smarter than everybody else involved with it. Yeah, tougher than the toughies and smarter than the smarties. That's the Brony way. When I made my first Brony video I told my friend Ghost Lightning I can probably gain enough subscribers from this that once I switch to doing games analysis I'll have an audience. And that worked. It just took longer than I thought. It was great because imagine if that hadn't happened then that would mean that now sitting pretty today in 2017 you'd have to look at the first year and a half of your career making like video game and anime videos and it's like you'd know that a lot of people would get curious and watch them and you'd be like, uh, don't. But thankfully, since they're all pony no one's gonna go see them so you don't have to deal with people seeing them.  You can downplay your personal investment in this all you want, did you? I'm not downplaying anything. I'm just saying that my fans will not go watch those videos and those videos are much worse than what I do now because I cut my teeth on them. I learned how to make videos by doing pony analysis.  I don't think it's funny that Digi Brony is using a teeth analogy. I know, I was thinking about that. I'm thankful for the Brony community because BronyCon, what was it, 2015, I think? Yeah, I think so. The second year we were all there together. Yes, 2015. It was probably the best convention of my entire life and I'm so glad I met all of you and I'm really happy.  My favorite moment in this movie is the first time Celestia was on screen and I said to my girlfriend, that's the voice actress I almost punched in the face.  By the way, Hippo, sorry, I just want to say I need you to apologize for my little pony right now.  I don't want to have to place you down, Hippo. Please apologize for my little pony and I'll leave you alone. I love my little pony. I'm going to have to push you down. I'm going to have to push you down.  Why wasn't Diamond Tiara in this movie more? She should have been the main character in this movie. If she was the main character then I would be screaming. I just want to say that we've had a real helpful discussion, a real nuanced discussion about the pros and cons and the thing we like and dislike and what it all meant to us.    Can I personally say what? I literally have to leave right now because that's why we scheduled this earlier so that he could leave. Also I have double booked a podcast and this is going to be two hours already. No, you don't understand. I'm peeing right now. Ben, do you want to pee with me? Do you want to be my best friend? Strawberry Milk and Phantom Wars. Strawberry Milk and Phantom Wars, we're doing it. We're pissing on the MLP movie. Brownie fuckers, copulars. We're paying for a thousand years. I hear it. This is the best ASMR. Yeah, this should have been the ASMR cast. What's happening, Mage? Do you want to make your point? I love power. I love power. Oh, too much. It's overflowing. I'm holding it in. Munchie, please at least stop talking.   You're all pee. You're all pee now. Go ahead. You're so gross. I know. They're disgusting. Now I don't want to be honest and stuff like that now that they're peeing. Yeah, you know. Totally almost done. He ruined the mood. So liberating. I feel like we only need to do questions. It's fine. Jesus Christ. You guys can do questions after me and Munchie leave. Oh, yeah, okay, bye. Get the babies from her now. All right, we'll do a handful.  I was just wondering who's leaving and why. Munchie's leaving because he has to go on a trip immediately. That's why we had to do this at two. That's right. Understood. Go to it. People have to leave. Goodbye.   He just peed after he left. He was only peaking yesterday. I wanted him here. Maids, do you want to make your point? The mood is wrong, though. Okay, tell you what. We'll come back to that after some questions. I want to answer at least one question before I take off to go talk to Snob or whatever. Yes. Munchie was actually the one looking at the discord. If somebody else wants to pull that up, I got the Twitter here. I'll take a look at it, yeah. Okay, cool. What do we got here?  That's terrible. At draw, fill draw asks, will there ever be a hashtag dad con? I guess we're our dad's skill to a convention. I would assume... We'll have that con once Munchie steals all the dads. Yeah. We'll put them all in a bunker together. That's good. I'll send my dad along in a package. I would like that. What ever answer do you plan on having children? I don't know. I don't think so. I think we might have on some sort of a podcast. I think on a really earlier podcast. I definitely intend on having children. We have answered this because Nate gave us his whole rundown of what his kids are going to be. That's right, I did. Vincent and Charlotte, yep, that's right. I remember that. I will never have children. I think it's retarded. So no, I'm way too selfish. I would sacrifice my children at the first possible opportunity to advance myself. I've heard you talk about that too, Tom. I don't know what a child is, but I plan to have Phillies. That's good. Because I'm still... Give us another question. I'm not finding any I want to read out. I'll just quickly answer the question while you're finding the thing. I don't particularly want any at this current time. Maybe in the future. But highly... I doubt it very highly. Don't like children. I agree, Paige. Well, in the Patreon chat, Crafty asked how long do you take to pee and we just answered that live. You've got that on right here. Too long.  The My Little Pony movie! Yeah! Oh guys, guys, guys. When I said I don't like children, my cat Meal then came up to me and I was snuggling me. Yes, he is my child.  Yes, they're good. We can control them and ban them to our will. Here's an actually great question. El Gringo Bandito asks what's your favorite sword? That's a good question. My favorite sword. I like a good busted sword. Like big hill busted sword. I just like mastered, because then I could say in class I could say bastard. A pokey sword. I really don't know anything about swords. The one that does its job. Not even the katana. No, that's like the weakest one. Folded a thousand times. Yeah, exactly. Katanas are pretty cool though. I agree. I like a cool katana. They cut the weak western steel. Are you kidding me? My favorite sword is a specific answer. I like Stormbringer. It's a sword from the Eternal Champion Saga. The Elric Saga. It's pretty cool. It's a sword all made of black. It's got red runes etched into it. If you get cut by it, it steals your soul.  I was going to say I had a specific one. The Storm King could have used that maybe. It was funny. I was trying to remember the Storm King's name and all I could think of was Stormbringer. I'm like it's not Stormbringer. He's not that cool.  I love the Buster Sword. The Buster Sword is dope. When I was younger, I liked the more ornately designed swords. But now I like big, simple. I really like a Sonosuke Sagara sword from Roni Kenshin. He uses one time. Before he does fisty cuffs. And also the Zvihander from Dark Souls because that's my major. It's kind of like a battle sword. It's not from Dark Souls, it's from real life. I like it because of Dark Souls. I think maybe my favorite sword is one of Zoro's swords. Zolo. You call them Zolo. I grew up calling him Zolo. I know. One of Zoro's swords. Which one? I really like the blue one. It's not even his best one. That's the cursed one, right? No. It's one he gets later as a replacement for one that breaks. Someone gives it to him when they got lying around. That's really early with the black sheath. The cursed one with the weird wavy pattern in the cut of it or whatever is really cool too.  Tragically, that one you're talking about right now is destroyed by a man with rust powers and gets replaced later on. The blue one does? He keeps the cursed one. That's right. I liked it because it wasn't like the best sword ever. It was an excellent sword that someone gave to him because they felt he deserved it.  It suffered a tragic end. Zoro's swords have great backstories. They really do. Especially because the one he gets later to replace it is actually a sword used by this guy who was in one of Oda's previous works about a dragon slaying samurai guy. That's right. None of the other questions are interesting to me and I'm going to take off. You guys can keep answering it. Okay, peace dog. I don't even know if there's any good ones left. Bye Digibroni. Tell us a tall tale. Tell us a tall tale. Why don't you? I got a question from the PCP chat. It could be interesting. If the PCP were to form a band of any genre what would the roles for each member be and what would the first album be called? The album would definitely be Gay and Dead. Guitar Boy. I want to be the designated band Scatman. Let's keep it a beaboo. That would be what I would do. I don't know. Bye. We would instantly kick Davoo out of the band. Obviously. It's a musical difference. Let's call it. Alright, we're done. Thanks for listening. This has been Keg Standard and this has been two best brothers bitch about ponies. Subscribe to our channel. We have a fan more.  Make sure you send us more questions. Hashtag Ask PCP on Twitter.  Because we got bonus episodes. And with one doll you get access to the discord. Where we just read a bunch of questions. That are more likely to be read. So you increase your odds by being there. And there's a great community there. Those people are dope. They're the best fans of the PCP. They're all fantastic. I got a thing to plug. If you want to see really awkward first interaction conversations with all of us. Search for the horse cast. Yes. Oh yeah. I was never on the horse cast though you fuckers. That's true.  I thought about that time we had made the PCP chats or something. I don't know. That was way before that. 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