I know how you've been brother. Yeah, man. Good. Good. Enjoying some chai and I'm feeling very grateful for the credible warmth to be our experiencing up here in Toronto Contrast in comparison is always interesting right warm Comparison to what like minus 25 is like oh, it's minus five minus 30. That's my stuff Well, really, it's it's funny because I was talking to somebody in the States a couple of days ago and mm-hmm and I said at minus 30 doesn't matter. It was Fahrenheit or centigrade.  It's the same All right, that's where the Fahrenheit scale meets the Celsius scale and You know gotta say gotta say feeling very happy for the contrast and I always say like I always tell this joke I told this before I'm like If the theories are correct that we evolved from Africa And if you and I were like the first Bushmen going from Africa into Europe, you know the minute I felt that cold of like yo guys We fucked up. We made an epic mistake going back. We go back bro.   I don't know. I don't know what the reason is, but There must have been a very compelling reason Innovation right there, bro, bro, we know we know for a fact that Vitamin D in the Sun makes you healthy like for fuck's sakes. You look at the blue zones today Yeah, what's the number one thing they have in common? There's like two things they have in common the first thing they all live in a warm climate a lot of vitamin D and Sun Second thing in common. They have a lot of omega-3 in their diet more or less quite on the pescatarian side of things Interesting. Yeah, man.  Yeah We don't get vitamin D, bro Like look at Vancouver or look at like what's that place Finland or Switzerland? Well, I don't know where it is.  Yeah, well, well, I hear that for both of us, this is gonna be our last winter and in the cold at least amen amen to that brother Get a g5 jet and get the hell out of here Yeah, man, I wanted to talk to you about one specific thing that you and I always banter about is that is Plant medicines, man. All right. Let's talk about it. What do you? Yeah, I want to talk about two specific things when it comes to plant medicines. Okay number one We'll go step by step number one if somebody wants because The number one question I get from a lot of people and I send them to like maps in different organizations Yeah, but number one question that I get from people when it comes to plant medicines is How do I start? Okay Okay, well Couple of things so this is a actually I might just write something about this is because yes It's pretty common thing. Yes, send them to like one link or one one video once And and they have that kind of access to it. This is something that you know, it's it's yeah I just thought about it like this might be something valuable to do So first I understood you start by understanding what's going on with Because if if this is this is kind of new to your to your environment It's new to kind of who you are chances are you there's there's some Information that you don't know about what what what these substances are how they work how they don't work, etc So the first step is to get aware become aware of what it is you're dealing with What are the rewards? What are the risks? What are the like? How does this whole thing work? And so I think the first concept understand is like the baseline concept, right? So so let's say like let's let's say we draw a line Clearly and that's the baseline of your awareness, right? So In the way I look at substances, you know plant medicines, you know Pharmaceutical drugs whatever right they they fall either up off the line or below the line. So let's take Alcohol for ten right alcohol is a pretty shitty drug You know how called responsible for some of our 18 million deaths in United States alone every year just some Just a crazy number It's a crazy number. I don't quote me on that number, but it's just a good if you look it up over Yeah, I'll look it up right now. Yeah, I remember it being like pretty high and Typically what it does is it reduces the baseline of your consciousness that gets you less aware It gets you more impulsive it, you know, maybe the first drink or two might get you a little bit I'm inhibited but the more you drink Like you can get so unaware you can pass out Consciousness that dims to the point where it becomes like you pass out you're done and that so alcohol would go under that that that baseline and you have Do you have substances that are on the baseline like coffee? Right sometimes depending on your genotype phenotype, and you know this a little bit more than I do Depending on your genotype or phenotype coffee can be useful to you or can be neutral to you It could be not useful to you right depending on your situation and then you have stuff like crystal meth Clearly it drops your baseline it affects the reward systems of your brain that kind of thing mess It's not something you want to do right heroin crystal meth fentanyl This whole opioid epidemic. That's if it's really been sweeping a lot of North America.  It's so you don't want to do it Suddenly with riddle in or at all.  This has been around for thousands of years That increase your baseline of consciousness that add awareness to you and so the reason coffee is on the on the Right on the baseline it can be slightly above or slightly below. It's because for some people coffee is a performance in and St. Drug and for some people the same people it might actually affect them the longer term They have a cat crash or they have a have the headaches or whatever the caffeine headaches you call right Now above the baseline you have substances like MDMA and psilocybin and LSD and ayahuasca peyote and San Pedro and in the Boga the five million DMT like you have all of these substances this range of stuff that starts to open you up to more awareness more of access to self-awareness which I think apart from you know health and and Connection and depth of family like I would I deeply wish self-awareness for everybody around The shit is awesome and and especially Self-awareness is really valuable to learn to grow to be able to to use awareness to move through life in a beautiful way every Everyone I really respect tends to have a lot of self-awareness and and so First recognize there are things above the threshold and things below the threshold There in the classification of like thing medicine is above the threshold I tend to go by this the classification that I first learned from Dr. Dan Engel Who's just like a pretty significant researcher in the States that talks about plant medicines and that's quite He has a very clear beautiful way of describing it, which is there's level one level two level three and the levels are Kind of they talk about intensity. It's about the intensity of experience. It's also about It would be foolhardy to start at level two instead of level one like this is not a game This is not a competition like It it basically it's just different levels of intensity of experience and it would be like a guess again Not advisable to start at level three For the sake of your own consciousness in your own kind of journey So Level one substances or essentially now MDMA Which we'll get get more into we got LSD Which was you know the drug of the choice in the 60s and psilocybin or magic mushrooms? and that that's a people called shrooms sometimes and That is a designation that is hated by Paul Stamets who I know Hates it so I can understand it from us, you know a scientific perspective for sure for sure Stamets is the man The guy is incredible, so he's got For if you guys are interested in kind of checking something out So he did an interview with Joe Rogan, which I consider like one of the best interviews He's ever done and Rogan's a fantastic interviewer and the amount of times Rogan got his mind blown It's substantial neurogenesis So that's a really good one Those are level ones, you know, level one is a fun. It's the fun zone It's the fun zone, which means You're not puking typically Right, you are generally having you can have fun with them You don't so you don't it doesn't have to be therapeutic necessarily you can have a Overall fun experience with them. You can have a recreational experience with them And they can also be very insightful and help in personal growth and change and all this stuff so To start if you if someone's looking for like, you know entry point MDMA would probably be The ideal entry point, right? So what is MDMA? So it's a little before we get into that Let's let me just cover level two and level three so level two is is the facilitated stuff, right? It's deeper shit basically So again, if you haven't had a few rounds of level one, like it's Unnecessary to go to level two unless you have an addiction unless you have like a real fundamental psychological need to improve Or to to grow if you have a heroin addiction for example, right? He goes straight to level three. You know, this is a medical emergency But it's a good psychological emergency, right?  That's an ibogaine and a bogey comes in this level three stuff Which is very useful for for people that don't have addictions But it's critical like this. You don't know people do have very high level addictions Don't go through the whole ladder situation, right? so Level two is your ayahuasca is your peyotes your San Pedro's your cacti that they tend to be facilitated And facilitated by people typically you've been doing their work for 10 plus years, you know that specific kind of work facilitation The the bar for the facilitation should be very high and anybody who's who's doing that kind of work Needs to be betting their person significantly. If you don't have one if you don't know them don't do it You know, this is not smart The risks at the risks are significant for getting this kind of stuff, right? If you are if you don't know what you're doing if you don't know what your sourcing is your your sitter and or Guide is not vetted like any of this work is is is not recommended because there is you're opening up your mind your consciousness your energy to new stuff and And I hope you respect your mind your body and and your energy and assuming you do you want to be careful and consistent and very Methodical in the way you approach it because if you don't you know to put a bluntly you might get fucked and That might not be worth the Might not be worth it. Of course you can recover of course You can heal all this other stuff of why get yourself into a mess if you don't have them so This that's level two the level three is your are you bow guard five at me at EMT? So this is heavy stuff So this is heavy stuff also heavy results, right? So it bogus philosophy is like no no gain no pain no gain And the price you pay is physical and psychological in nature, right? And obviously monetary as well, but The more you put put skin in the game the more you get out of it, and that's the general Orientation see bogus is probably the substance I know with the most behavior change That it that it results and from experience so heroin addicts tend to become Like about 70% recidiv like a rate of a short rate of addiction. No withdrawals Govremate talks about that. Yeah. Yeah, no withdrawals. That's the crazy stuff So so with other level two substances that they have the situation where You get off them you have you have an urge to get off these substances But you still go through the crawls, which I hear is is is terrifying and horrifying But we look at no withdrawals clean And and it's it's miraculous and we don't know how it works. I know we don't and there's an interesting If you guys want to know more about it What's this? What's is a oh my god? Andrew no Hamilton. What's Hamilton's name? Oh That happens from a copia. Yeah, but what's his first name? Hamilton Hamilton what? Is it Andrew? No, it's not Look it up.  We just know work or rework to reward pathways. We know it's actually been very useful for Alzheimer's Because it it like supercharges neurogenesis supercharges like the growth of new brain cells is at a rate that it's just bananas and He also talked about the really this was actually really interesting to me We're bringing up the script a little bit, but that's not like we had a big strip anyway he talks about to addicts right so they were talking about it in in in the con context of addiction and He talks about We haven't done too much work with this stuff We haven't tested like right now so far the way we're working with addicts is like, okay let's like blast them so Ibogaine is the the Extract of Iboga Iboga's Rupark and Extract the hell out of it and and you take one alkaloid that the main the big boss basically and And then you give someone a Fuck ton of it So you do so he's bringing an addict and and they say okay this addict We need to give them so much Iboga that we don't know if their body can actually take it so let's extract the lead alkaloid and give them a bunch of it and See how they react like essentially it's shock treatment It's psychological shock treatment. You're giving them so much of it that they they go back and Likely they don't never touch it again statistically and Hamilton's like maybe a better approach instead of shocking the hell out of them is Is doing two or three treatments within you know a nine month period maybe that's better We don't know because it's expensive people have to take time off There's a lot of other Variables in the picture and because it is not typically in this you know the the medical It's it's not aligned in the medical model right now like these these these stuff as their schedule one pretty much This is a huge problem. So they have to go out of the country, you know pay out of pocket Figure the staff out and that's why it's not there's not enough done on it where we can start to see what is the ideal cadence here What is the ideal dose of structure? What is the ideal kind of integration phase and it's a whole thing we'll talk about? That kind of stuff. So it's very very interesting stuff very it's like near miraculous in terms of what it's able to accomplish And yeah, I'm very excited to have more research on that on it In terms of what can be done? Well one benefit at least in Canada is both the ayahuasca iboga are under the pretense of religious act Right ayahuasca is under the vision of the pretence of religious act. I think it's legal. Oh, it's straight legal Yeah, I think it's legal. You can you can look it up.   It's like I left it. It's quick because it's not logs like 10 minutes for 10 15 minutes And I came back.  Like there's no like therapeutic benefits like would like why? Yes, I began is unregulated in Canada till it doesn't nine then health Canada outed Ibogaine to the prescription drug list in 2017 Yeah But like for example, I did the micro dosing of Iboga that like for me was like remarkable You know in hindsight after the day has passed by but looking back and like okay Like things went different. I noticed things I had more deeper insight about how my thoughts were formed or why my thoughts were formed And how I can analyze my thoughts Yeah, it's a it's it's mind medicine. It's really fantastic stuff. Yeah, so now you know the hierarchy, right? So now, you know, you know level one cool fun stuff that can really allow you to grow up fundamentally and amazingly The reason I'm frankly very interested in this kind of stuff is because I deeply believe in that we are all here to learn and grow as human beings and psychedelics allow you a Highway like it's the super highway of learning and growth, you know, I do a bunch of other stuff obviously That helps me to learn and grow but but the information access that you get with this kind of stuff. It's unparalleled and And so you probably want to start with something like, you know, if you're if you're listening if you're like, hmm This is interesting. This is curious. This is something I want to get into You want to look up MDMA now MDMA started out as You know, you probably have heard of MDMA and ecstasy in conjunction So ecstasy is MDMA Which is straight crystal cut with speed And that that was used in like, you know, the party drug as a party drug pretty much, right?  So you feel a lot of love you feel very very Connected to yourself connected to others other other people. It's been used in relationship therapy where you know a husband of life or or you know a couple is looking to mend bonds between each other And it's a very powerful experience.  How is this shit not legal? within three sessions within three sessions a person of PTSD Has a 80% cure rate Not a reduction rate Right now that I'm feeling slightly better, but it's 80% sure what you're done. It's done the within It's called MDMA assisted psychotherapy.  There is this like beautiful healing that happens that lots of people report and Is there other show notes here? Can you like have people like click on links and shit? Is that is that a thing you can do here? Where is this live? It's right here. Yeah, we can do show notes great because Tucker Maxwell an excellent article. Just let me notice in one second. There's a chat feature in this Great. Where is it right here? But the notes here. That's the actual box if you want to type in any notes to people So they can see it That's awesome. Okay, cool So I I'll Tucker Maxwell an excellent article About his experience with MDM therapy. Oh, yeah, that's right a couple of like a month or two ago yeah, and I thought that was an excellent idea.  I really think it's a profound experience and I think something as as an entry level as MDMA if you can make that much of a difference It's pretty incredible to know what the other stuff can do with you Right. So so again, you it's not crazy like it. It's it's almost if you do it in the way that I've mentioned It's all it's so hard to fuck it up so right and and there are practitioners in In Most parts of North America like more cities in North America and I think maps is a multi-disc preliminary association of Psychedelic society something like that maps if you just search for maps they should Be able to point you in the right direction to practitioners in various cities That help you kind of do this. This is also quite quiet all quite on the ground. So every now I think it might be a Because he mentioned a different class right substance a Then B and C or class one schedule. Yeah schedule one two three What's the goal? I think the goal for like 2020 or 2021 is to be a schedule three For MDMA. Yeah, so medical practitioners can describe it. Yeah, I think it has incredible application and And that that alone can really help people to heal fundamentally. Yeah, well funny funny side. No LSD and MDMA were legal In like it's 60s. Yeah, they were legal and prescribed by psychiatrists.  It's pretty nefarious when you think about like War and drugs was obviously you and I know that's a whole scam. We can have a whole different podcast on that but like You know MDMA aside if you look at plants, you can't patent plants like you can't patent different mushrooms or Iboga or Aya or any of these like Let's get them on the cactus Peyote, but you know, I mean, so it's like the one thing that's non-addictive Eagle shattering spiritually aligning for the most part most people can grow in that's the stuff you make illegal Yeah, yeah, and I think with some of them you can even start to look at like they're trying to see if they can patent Like a synthetic psilocybin or something like that, right?    It was it was people who had chronic PTSD So this this wasn't people who said who just were Diagnosed with PTSD as of yesterday in the study in the in the both phase one phase two and even now phase three It was people who've been there done that tried all different forms of modalities psychotherapy this SSRI that lithium this blah blah blah blah blah everything failed and So yeah, think about that. They've been there done that they tried everything and just two treatments With MDMA assisted psychotherapy was more beneficial. I think in the phase two said ten years worth of therapy They've done in the past when he two treatments were worth more than the ten years what they did in the past. It's like Wow The the value is is is hard to overstate and it's also hard to explain Right, you know, you have these experiments and you start to see the delta of the changes and The good things that start to happen to people That's profound. That's profound already but you you take Something like an entry-level experience, right, you know, that's how you start There's nothing really lighter so to speak although you can vary those ranges Then MDMA like on the general hierarchy, right? Yeah, that's on check that That's pretty crazy. And so let's say if someone does that then they're looking for something else Would you say then like so so before I even even say that I would actually say get get it integration integration Right, so so this whole thing the whole point medicine stuff I think It's cool. It's cool. It's great. It's getting tons of new press people talking about it that like we or currently in like the a Position where we're experiencing a psychedelic renaissance of renaissance brother. It's happening Right, so so there's there's a great book called how to change your mind by Michael Paulin He wrote that game changer, right? Very established writer thinker Any great thing about that book he came into it as a skeptic, right? And and he was a very established food writer and asserted to say what's going on here and sort of the coat Go down the rabbit hole sort of to ask questions and start to experiment with himself As to you know, how does this work and how can I use these these spots like are they for those shit? like what's going on here and It's a beautiful book about his experiences that I want to ruin it necessarily for people but what what he talks about is the fact that now slowly It's coming back to mass consciousness Where people are realizing well, this is actually quite useful stuff And it could be very beneficial for our minds or bodies and our psyches and society as a whole If we start to look at these medicines that are going to use you know for thousands of years really to help you become a better person Fundamentally and yeah, I think I think it's good. It's gonna be a really good time in terms of integration so Integration sounds it's the boring stuff It's the boring stuff so so though the experience like whoa, it's the meat of the sandwich so to speak and the experience stuff is it's stuff on both sides of it so you have the Yeah, the preparation which is like the left side of the sandwich Yeah, the experience which is the meat and you have the integration Which is the right side of sandwich and if you were to kind of picture a sandwich the right the bread on the right side It's gonna be a long one right. It's gonna be a long one because The work required in bringing back a lot of these insights are Significant right there's significant so You know for people thinking Some people would be thinking like what what ranges of experience that I had enough I've experienced all three levels I've experienced is that So integration basically means journaling meditation Keeping your body healthy like working out movement yoga flexibility whatever and also being able to Bring the experiences that lessons you're bringing back and applying it into life.  It's fine if you want to go on fun rides. That's fine That's that's something you can do and and there's nothing wrong with that The reason I'm interested in some of the stuff is because it makes me a better human and I want to act and I want to improve and I want to become better and That comes with having a great peer group right back that that comes with being able to share Experiences with people that are close in your life that comes from being able to meditate and journal and things of that nature and if You're not having an integration practice. It's like having water Like sift through your fingers and fall away, right? So you have all those amazing Stuff that comes at you, but you're not you don't have a bowl You don't have something to capture it and and being able to use that So the integration value is really high and that's someone so that's something you can start doing today You know, whether it be a meditation practice or a journaling practice or or some kind of consistent self-awareness Practice it could be you writing it could be Playing chess But it's some kind of a practice that become helps you gain more self-awareness. That's really important And so what do you work? What do you recommend then what's something simple that people can just start? We mentioned some stuff like chess and writing and meditation etc about like For the most part, what do you find to be like the lowest spirit entry that people can kind of stick with I think Like it's different for different people So for me, it's generally, you know, that that's that's very easy access to me And if journaling is not good try to find a journal. It's great. I Think it's very individual. I think you know, I you know, we've known each other for years So I know your general style like I think for you It's working out to be honest, right your your your method of of Increasing your self-awareness is actually very physical and nature.  I just walk and then my brain do is thinking.  So That's that's your kind of your way of gaining self-awareness, right? So after an experience or so you would want to spend, you know, you want to like block out Maybe half an hour to an hour to just Walk and allow it to process and that's your thing. Everybody's got got their own thing. Obviously You know, you have a few standard things meditation journaling things like that You can go down those rabbit holes if you don't know what yours is but chances are for the people listening, you know what your stuff is Right, you know what your access is potentially to help yourself process and And and and but find something real to implement on the other side So moving along it what's your then what's your suggestion or advice for people who are Hearing about for example Most of these studies these days are coming up with psilocybin, you know, Paul Stamets talks about it Dennis McKinnon Terrence McKinnon's brother. He's also been on Joe Rogan's podcast a bunch of times I met him down in Mexico really awesome a dude at the crypto psychedelics conference It was a good conference as interlume to it.  We had maps was there We sponsored it and yeah, it was a two-day event talk about crypto and psychedelics Dennis McKinnon was down there a bunch of other Amazing researchers and scientists were down there. It was a good time I hope hopefully they had it they had it this year, but they had it in Prague And it was during like kind of cold. I think I'm like, yeah, I need to have it during summertime And then I'll then I'll show up But going back to the psilocybin So that you know, we were talking the different stages like level one level two level three of entry points What would what would be your recommendation then for people who are interested in psilocybin? The way I would do it is first I would get a smart friend I'll get a smart for someone like a facilitator as much someone who understands what they're doing in your general circle And everybody has like, you know, or some kind of or try to find a facilitator who knows what they're doing that's the that's the first entry point because Doing this yourself is Possible, but it's there's a lot of things that you have to do that can be difficult sourcing accurately appropriately high quality stuff testing For impurities that is that all this other rather if you can find Lois hanging fruits, you can find someone who is a doctor a psychotherapist a Practitioner who is bedded Then this whole thing becomes a way simpler they become kind of your go-to person and That's that makes a huge difference Would you recommend people to start with the micro dosing before they do something like even like one or two grams? Yeah, it's a great idea So again, assuming you can get a clean consistent source Micro dosing is basically something that's made popular by Jim Vateman Who at the second I'll explore this guy and he's been is incredible human he's been around for a long time he's been around for a while and He talks about the experience of giving giving someone a tenth of a dose And so let's say a dose is you know a significant our hero's dose Let's say I'm still so I've missed five grams not talking about that dose talking about like a two to three grand dose So 10th of that would be point two point three grams It's sub threshold which means in his words The rocks don't even glitter a little bit Yeah, and it just kind of adds to your perception of library think of it like psychedelic coffee Right, it's like coffee It's it's something it improves your based on our awareness kind of yours little brighter a little sharper a little more Aware today and it can help you do everything you're doing just with an added layer of awareness not out of labor awareness is really valuable a little useful and And yeah, if you have access to it absolutely micro doses are great way to start because it also removes any fear and yeah, right, so this is that's the dress that because That's something that people likely experience right they they have a you know They're it's very common to feel a fear of what would you discover on the inside? Like what if they go crazy? What if they're able to not control the experience? What happens if if if if? and it's a reasonable concern considering if someone's never done psychedelics before or let's say they've had some experiences in the past with you know with The wrong dose range they haven't measured or the wrong Set the mindset and the setting Of the right people around if they hadn't had that they've had an experience that it has been challenging Likely it stopped them from being able to do any of the experiences in the future because they've experienced some trauma and They have to to move through that trauma to be able to you know engage and partake in the substance again And so there's there is likely with hallucinogens psilocybin You know LSD, you know and heavier stuff. You're going to have some trauma that you're going to have to overcome Mm-hmm As a result of that and and the key is to start start at small dose ranges The way I think about it Start at small those ranges and slowly make your way up and and aim for If you're starting out aim for experience every six months You know maybe a year Start small smart slow start consistently like make it you know some people like to make it a birthday ritual Where they start to get like an inch, you know large dose of insight you're after year and they kind of upgrade and Keep moving from there.  Yeah, so Big micro does that I have your stuff as well, but if you're doing it, you know stick with your psilocybin and LSD to start I would say I always start small man I I told you this before my worst trip actually my life was eating 20 edibles Okay, so let's let's hear the the edible story, bro twice in my life and That was a much heavier stuff. Sorry. That was a much heavier stuff.  That was like when I was like 18.  So like I had no cognition of the event nor physical memory nor pain receptors to associate with that event, right? It happened to me. I woke up and thank God there was friends and medical help Right, but it was supposed to what you're saying is basically you Ode to the OD itself was not challenging or painful because You blacked out Basically, yeah for the most part. Yeah, I don't get me wrong.   I've done so many things. I'm sitting and luckily I had access It was like It was one of my friends place and it was had access to a bed.  It was wasn't even edible. It was it was technically CBD oil. Yeah That wasn't CBD at all.  It was Terrifying it was So buddy of mine bought like the highest like concentration of CBD oil for his grandfather. Yeah He was he wasn't like essentially like the last stages of his life for pain control and things of that nature because CBD is supposed to be really good for that and His grandfather gave it back to him because you know, he felt that You know, he was tripping apparently he tripped on it and he didn't like it and he gave it to my buddy Who didn't think twice about it? He's like, ah, I guess my grandfather didn't do it. I guess so I'll take something and so He told me is really high Ready to see me D like we're talking like the The bottle has like a few 100 milligrams and and He teaches some himself and said hey, you want some I'm like, oh CBD. That's fine I have a much better experience with CBD that you see so I grab I grab I take some I Get home and I'm starting to get highs Like way, I don't understand my mouth starts to get really dry.   Oh Shit, and it's not getting any better.    Yeah, so so so And I don't know what happened in your situation with my situation.        No cameras on pictures.  I actually feel sorry for people who didn't grow up pre social media Shittering like you go now to any like even like any EDM festival or like even burning men. Everyone's like, oh Look at me.     That's all I'm saying Yeah and they got me to be of Much better research and much better awareness of some of the stuff now But you can do the good stuff. Oh God. Yeah, man Cuz that's another thing people forget these studies are a very expensive and B okay, so there's there's three things to it. There's a it's very expensive B it takes a very long bureaucratic time to cut the red tape to get approved for these studies and See the studies take a long time and D The researchers are doing or putting their ass on the line. Fuck. Yeah in a way that you can't imagine like if they're risking They're risking their careers to do this, right? There's this researcher and PhD the name of Rick Strassman who did the significant research around that the molecule DMT or dimethyltry to me and He talks about the the Conundrum that he went through he talks about the the the difficulty that he had as He figured out I'm not gonna do this and I can do research on this molecule because You know, I could I could have a license to go. There's so many things that can happen if he's treading on the wrong side of the razor's edge, so to speak and Yeah, you know what to me like I think of I Think of like heroic acts. Yeah being acts of of courage that that requires strategic foresight and just an understanding that this needs to get done and Someone might like they might the person the people are researching this might take one for the team Might be taking one for the team and they're okay with it and that's remarkable Right, they could just write some mother fuck other paper about some random like non controversial Molecule or substance be fine with it. Yeah, well, this is where I'm like, there's one thing. I'm actually excited and Great example. This is what the pineapple fund did in crypto. They give maps. I think it's five million dollars How can you the phone?  I don't know No, we know these got it. Okay, people know who he is, but I don't bother to probe. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I don't care I don't want to I made a shit ton of money He's like I want to give back and he created a pineapple fund and within the pineapple fund He had a voting mechanisms like who should I give money to and people are voting on? foundations and charities and the different initiatives and Maps was highly voted on that and he gave them five million dollars Vis-a-vis Bitcoin to maps maps takes crypto man.   That's the stuff the crypto can can really That's the Blockchain, let's talk about some blockchain stuff. Sure That's true house, and I'm genuinely interested in figuring some of the shit out Yeah, and and it's awesome that I have you as like access to understand all this stuff So apparently like these are the the facts that I know that are like pretty well known and undisputed So I'm gonna share them with you just so we're on the same page here So crypto Specifically, let's say Bitcoin if Monero, right like coin that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah They're volatile. They're volatile and what we know is they are the current cracker currencies But we have no idea, you know after the long-term longevity slash the ability of those specific crypto currencies my accurate accurate for the most part we can Both for Monero Bitcoin and Ethereum for the most part we know the issuance specifically for Bitcoin and Monero, we know how much will be mined vis-a-vis the miners And we know that it's a decreasing supply And so we can price that in within the price the one thing that we can't control off obviously is market dynamics We don't know when people are buying and selling vis-a-vis OTC So over-the-counter not the exchanges and that's the majority of the Purchases actually happen. It's not the exchanges people don't want to show you that they're selling Let's say 10 million or 50 million dollars worth of Bitcoin, but yes for the most part It's still highly volatile, right and what is is universally agreed upon That I've seen as almost most universally agreed upon is the fact that blockchain is going to change the world Mm-hmm. The idea of what blockchain is is going to change the world and And so so walk me through the blockchain Revolution if you will like walk me through where it is now Walk me through what do you see it's doing in let's say ten years when let's say it's fully established and Fully integrated into society what it can it can do what it promises. Maybe it's five years seven years So walk me through that whole thing I think promises is a bad way to look at it if you look at the most successful chains right now they all started organically for the most part Bitcoin Monero, Ethereum and Each of them have a very specific use case and a specific ethos Best example I give it's like very religious. He's Bitcoin is very religious has a lot of Similarities between how Jesus came Jesus left the disciples came like we don't know who Satoshi was We have some records of him vis-a-vis Bitcoin talk and some correspondence He disappears how Phineas won like the first disciples that starts mining Bitcoin working on the Bitcoin code implementing some bips and the other early Co-providers jump in and then slowly through grassroots Bitcoin starts getting adopted like a religion And you can look at a theory of two like Vitalik like a Messiah like people worship him people look at him like he's like everything Then you have like key people around Vitalik. So it's very tribal of us But the the promise I want to say there's no promise. I would say there is potentialities with this technology Number one Bitcoin obviously is it is It is the closest thing that we have in so far the number one and lead for having state-free money store value Where we can transfer value from point eight to point B. I call Bitcoin anti-war technology I can communicate with anybody in the world, and I don't need anybody's permission. I can buy stuff with it I don't need anyone's permission. I can sell stuff with it. I don't need anyone's permission And so it's very powerful then we have Ethereum lately where a lot of people are trying to build decent Decentralized financial products. So maker is one like a stable coin die Creating systems where people can easily get loans anywhere in the world Almost at zero percent interest imagine like you're somewhere like So how far away are we at this? I think truthfully we're still at like the five yard line All right. Yeah, I think we're very early.  We're trying to figure out what what can't do what it can't do Like we're trying to figure out the edge of the system. It's going to be a while till it is integrated Yeah, and it's gonna be it's gonna be geographically dependent too because each Part of the world has a different need and a necessity for certain aspects of this technology At least they are North America We don't have a repressive government say we don't have let's say a banking system That's all so I'm gonna take your money, but they've done in the past if you look at American history there's been run on the banks in America this isn't something they'll be for the first time like people have a very short-term memory Here's another thing that people forget the United States confiscates confiscated your gold There was laws where it was give us your gold or go to jail They can't do that with Bitcoin well, they can but you don't have to necessarily get it. It's not a physical I didn't I don't have any physics. I don't Bitcoin. What Bitcoin? You talking about Yeah, they can't season physical assets. So to speak and where Bitcoin is going we have technology like Schnorr signatures Schnorr signature signatures Where all transactions on both ends will be? Moot meaning you will not know the amounts You will know there's a sendered receiver, but the amounts will be unknown So it makes even more privacy dominant within the space Yeah, so I'm very long on Bitcoin as a store of value per se As a cryptocurrency itself Yeah, cuz I see I see people storing a Portion of their wealth in Bitcoin on the proof of work chain And then I see layer two technologies like lightning network being utilized for day-to-day transactions Okay, so lightning. I'll tell you more about the lighting network stuff So lightning network is a second layer of technology built on Bitcoin on the on the Bitcoin platform Correct, right it utilizes onion tour network if you guys are familiar with that and Pretty much Make it, you know simple on your technology basically is a kind of technology that utilizes encryption and anonymity correct to transact online correct and so basically It uses a real it's called hops it uses a relay or system. So for example, I want to send you Jay money I don't care how it gets to you Jay I'm willing to pay like X amount of fees to get to you Jay it goes through the onion network It goes through any different hops it needs to go the fastest way to get to you Jay Yeah, yeah, yeah the best visualization I give for hops if If Anyone has seen the yes the last Guardian of the galaxy when they face ego the planet Have you seen that movie?  Yondu Yondu Yondu They have to quickly get into go to ego the planet to help Queen and everybody and they go through all these like spaceport So those are hops And so, you know, that's I think 2019 2020 are gonna be massive years for Bitcoin and then Ethereum is going through its growing pain Technology standpoint or a revolution evolution of the tech. Yeah. Yeah, not necessarily the Price that which it's trading, but I don't know I haven't been I don't really pay attention the price of the truth Interesting so you pay attention to oh you probably do look at it but not really So you just look at where the tech is going I look at I look at the evolution of the tech I Look at the fundamental Principles of the tech. I look at the size of the network. I look at the hash power. I Look at how many people around the world are joining the hash power That's something No hash power. You don't have security. Yeah, so so for for the initiated. What is how what is hash power? hash power is The amount of a six, right? So these are application-specific Just call for oh, I don't like that's a complicated word. I like to call them Machines the crunch numbers Basically the video card on steroids actual horsepower of the blockchain I want to say intellectual. I will call it the mathematical computational force to to protect the blockchain of Yes, so how this hash power is cook so so we're on the same page here. That's power is the computational Horsepower of the Bitcoin option Yes, and so the more of that the better excess what about the the market cap I Think market caps are very bad Metrics to follow because it's highly flawed Okay, I think a better metric to follow is daily hash rates daily transactions Because also another thing market caps it can be like inflated vis-a-vis Exchanges where the exchanges can be easily altered as well. And yeah, yeah, but but but daily What would you say daily? Actually, well, you can look at daily hash volume But you can also look at the transaction volume and block size. There we go. How do you look at this stuff? Coin metrics is one Dot-co I believe And then the easiest one is massari.io any SS ari believe that IO.  Yeah Coin metrics. I think it's dot-co The IO actually that IO, okay Sorry die as well. Oh Cool That makes so much sense That makes a lot of sense. I'm down with that that makes sense So if you look at the daily hash rate use the amount of Transactions that are in the network that's basically what you're saying Yeah, the hash rate is how active is that blockchain?  Yeah, because the whole point of proof of work is You and I can submit a transaction to the Bitcoin blockchain And then basically what the ASICs do is they solve something called the nuns It's a random number on top of the header of the blockchain Yeah, whoever owns it first.  This is game theoretical models, right? So it's heavy it's but it's cross look it's I I know a little bit about this stuff and basically I started to look into what how a hash created At the top, you know the top of the block. There's like a hash that cryptographically seals it for the next layer Right for the next for the next block because that what goes is it's time stamped in hash. So a b bb Sorry a b b b c c c d d right. Yeah, it's linear okay, um so what I learned was is a It's almost like a Like a randomized function where multiple ASICs start to compute the probability of You know with a certain Essentially, there's a certain function where they have to brute force um Their computational power at a certain problem based on that. That's how the hash is fun. Am I Accurate or am I totally yeah at the end of the day? It's quite simple. You have money you buy all these asics you rent warehouse space You buy electricity you have engineers And the more power the more hash power you have the higher percentage chance you have to solve it first Not last first and this is why then we have something called uncle blocks Where you do solve something but you don't solve it first you solve it afterwards Okay And you don't get paid for that actually an ethereum chain. You get paid a little bit. I forget how much But that's all different counter worms Proof of stake. Um, we're going a little bit. I'm curious to know what differences did before can prove a mistake one Proof of stake is pretty open term because there's different there's different There's different proof of stakes. Okay You know, um So it's hard to compare even you know proof of work for the most part is Pretty much the same at least people who have cloned bitcoin. It's asics uh, but proof of stake like proof of stake from tesos to cosmos to ethereum whenever they switch over to Decred till the other ones eos, uh, they're different extremely different Okay, yeah, um, so basically you're you're bullish on bitcoin as a store value A store value. Yeah, so basically long term. Yes Um What what else are you are you bullish on monero?  Yeah Monero is essentially bitcoin, but privacy coins. Um, like for price-wise. I'm talking about actual utility Bitcoin monero z cash uh ethereum They have a lot of competition coming up with like polka dot and cosmos ethereum. Yes. Oh, yeah and uh ethereum needs to figure out and there's a lot of like interesting talk or like decentralized financial instruments with ethereum like maker and die and and creating derivatives and creating open finance systems, but Time time is against them. So we'll see. I don't know like we haven't really discovered ethereum's real use so far The best narrative right now is open finance interesting Okay, basically, uh, Bob remember like bitcoin has had a 10 year head start Yeah, the blockchain is being actively like fucking developed and worked on and and craft and it's also pretty focused on one specific application As opposed to the original ethereum's promise was the world computer. You can do anything and everything you want Right. That makes sense.   Tell me more. Tell me more about that What technologies for example, they think technology alone sells it doesn't or they think the the better technology will be the winner It's like that's far from the truth That's like it's actually people it's people that win Yeah No, I'm with you on that. So so basically you so you're saying you champion people over technology. What is people? What is Unpack that for me the people over technology I trust people more than I trust tech like if I look at the Bitcoin blockchain block stream and the cryptographers working on like I put my faith in them I see and I put my faith in that it attracts Top cypher punks and top cryptographers cryptographers around the world same thing at a theorem I like a theorem. It tracks amazing talent. It tracks really interesting different minds from people who are Engineers to people who are economists to people who are in philosophy It tracks all these different interesting Eclectic groups of people to come together to figure out new types of models online Oh, yeah, I've heard I've heard unlimited things about Ethereum and generally the talent character attracts And and the conversations they have the developers attract. Yeah And then and from what I quite a altruistic philanthropic Person am I accurate or am I totally up it? Yeah?  We got a download signal. We have to understand most people won't do that, right? I tell people be responsible for your for your bitcoin on your private keys For example, buy one of these select your cphrase 99 of people won't do this, right?  We need one push mobile button click click click click click We need Easy adoption Of the blockchain easy use UI UX easy use So if I could if I could go out and basically I could just have a have a situation where I I drop in um I buy coffee and I just like tap my phone On the machine and I I pay with crypto Yeah, we can do that right now. It's uh Super early, but that's for me. That's uh inevitable. It's eventually going to happen. Yeah, I agree with that Uh, I'm excited for that Very excited for that. I think that is going to be an awesome time How far do you think we are from like the the wider adoption of it? I think like for lighting network like 2020 2021 early. Oh, it's a couple years. Yeah for lighting network.  So like Knowing what percentage like portfolio you would advise the obviously you guys is not investment advice Like be be smart. We don't be doubt that kind of thing But what would you what would you recommend? For people like listening if they they would like invest let's say $10,000 into Into most people most people aren't investors and they It's a hard they have a hard time understanding that most people are very emotional creatures not rational um For the most part for the most part the stuff that I invest in I know it fully I don't invest in stuff that I don't know for example. I'm not the wisest in stocks I have only two stocks and the reason I have it.   It was all Irrational based on fomonomics, right or the previous christmas at two years ago Um, and people and people lose money because people are emotionally dumb fomonomics, did you say fomonomics? Yeah, I like it. I got that from brad mills, you know brad Yeah from mastermind, um And so it's like okay Invest what you have no emotional attachment to um And so like it's a 50 bucks that you don't care about put 50 bucks and it's 100 bucks or the thousand bucks You know, what's your threshold of emotional pain that you can manage?  You're not at that stage for investing.  You know, okay, you're now your 120 cool. Now you got disposable income You got income now that if you lose it, it doesn't hurt you Right, so these are whole different conversations and so people need to figure out if I'm making 60 How can I make 120? What are what are side hustles I can do as gary bennard v talks about what are things I can sell maybe online? What are maybe some like? Uh, how can I increase the value of bringing in my current company? How can I do some consulting on the side?  All right, cool Sit it relax, you know, I don't care if it goes up it goes up if I lose it whatever exactly that's the critical piece You know, hold on to it relax brief. Yeah, right? You're you're from what I'm what I understand You're long on it, which means You know in several years five ten years The store of value as as a general general trend is going to be upward Yeah, and like remember like the The conversation we're having here like for the most part we're not talking to Like crazy accredited investors who invest and the reason why their investors is multiple times in their in their life they've Successfully gained Wealth through one means or the next And so like regular people and this goes back is like I had this question I always thought like it irritates me, but it's very important is like and Earning potential man like people talk I've had too many people say well I want to invest a thousand like fuck. Can you afford to lose a thousand?      The bear market is like Well, I love the bear market because the people who were here before the bull market. We're still here You know, it's not like we showed up yesterday. We've been here for years You know the people here during the bull market. Well, they It came and they're gone.   We don't need you anyways Yeah, so it's it's interesting because I'm pretty confident with with every Full and bear market. There's like a contingent of ojeets That's just like tighter and stronger and just like more methodical and they're in their approach to of course, man The understanding and you working with and because because you're really like it's at the inception Maybe not inception stage and exception. No, uh, I was in Asception stage for like ethereum per se, but an assumption stage for bitcoin, right? Uh, I came to bitcoin. I think in like 2000 and end of 2013 2014 something like that. I think 2013 roughly Uh, so I've been here like five to six years. Um For me, it's not has nothing to do with price. It's nothing to do with getting getting wealthy at all Side effect, but I'm here for the fact that What the technology has the potential to enable people Um enable people to have access to x enable people to communicate able to people to have privacy enable people to have means of financial communication meaning Commerce like this is what excites me the most everything else is a side effect Yeah, I get it. I understand and you were always the ideologically gone to the coin anyway So that that makes total sense Of course, bro when I first saw by I didn't understand the tech it took me a while But like I'm like, yo, I'm in in the story. I get it And you took a while to understand the tech. So what did you do to understand the tech? I just talked I literally talked to people physically like thank god Toronto's one of the hot spots in the space we had No, Peter Todd here a bunch of bitcoiners here on jay centenopolis used to come here a theorem was here Um, you know, so we just had you know the parks because of the proximity of toronto I had the luxury of speaking with a lot of brilliant people awesome, okay And if there's a good resource someone can can We need to listen to to like understand more about the blockchain revolution. What would that be? Lockheeks, bro. All right So what's what's what's the article that would be the first thing they would read? Actually, the simplest way is we organize the site in beginners intermediate and events And so they can literally just go to blockheeks click guides to go to basics and just go down the rabbit hole. Yeah That's great. No, the edge. I know we made every guide audio now too so you can listen to my voice too Cool, okay. Yeah Um, yeah, this is useful info Generally as time moves on it's gonna be valuable Yeah, man um Were you reading is this? Uh I am rereading The sovereignth individual so I'll show you Oh, yeah, you posted that I saw that So I don't know if you guys can see that but Yeah, that's what I'm rereading. It's a big book. So I'm rereading now reread that a couple of times And ask for audible when I do walk Uh, I'll show you I just finished re listening to joseph cambell's The power of myth I every quarter I listened to that Yeah, you're you're heavy on my book heavy bro, so many lessons and uh The latest one is uh Keeping at it paul vulker The former fed former chairman of the fed Huh, what's the most about uh in a nutshell?  Yeah, yeah, you know, so Um So yeah, uh, there's a really cool uh two-part youtube series called Call it's on, um, joseph cambell's Heroes heroes journey. Okay. It's like two clips of about 10 minutes each where they they I I don't have the patience to read that specific book. It's a big book man. How many hours is it?  I just need to find a and it's deep like you need to understand so many mythological, uh Motifs and models and it's not a it's not a binary read. It's a very deep read Anyway, I was like, look I want I want this information 20 minutes. Yeah Okay Invasion about it. So I wanted you to there's a great documentary. I let let me let me pull this up called, uh, it really some um The heroes journey really well And it makes it simple with animation and it's in that and everything else Um, there we go crash course world of mythology I think there's like a part one part two or something like that I'm going to it's dope Yeah, yeah crash course mythology And it's really great. It's it breaks it down like pretty like straightforward. I think there's a couple parts to it. Um But yeah, it's I'm down. This is something that I would uh I would watch again just to understand what it is and also gives you a very clear understanding of what Like how you can apply this into your own life. Hmm. I just got a lot of Yeah, I always tell people Joseph Campbell in my uh, my eyes has been the most uh him and young in uh, schopenhauer Probably like form the most of my Thought my thoughts and I the way that how I view the world Oh Yeah Yeah, it just makes sense. It's like not complicated. Like I get it Yeah Yeah um Yeah, that that kind of stuff that kind of stuff That's why I love the internet so much. Like this is such a powerful source of of information There are like a fire hose of information that you can bring from this Yeah, the problem is filtering, you know, I made a video not too long ago talking about Aristotle's filter test Is it is it that is it true? Is it good? Yes useful? Mm-hmm. That's exactly it And it's also like There is too much information As you mentioned like a fire hose And then all of us obviously have cognitive biases and we are shaped and formed due to our upbringing and due to our circle of influence And obviously due to where we live and so I had this talk with cistler. He was on my show like a couple of days ago Yeah, we went deep in on like a human cognition. Um, and understanding like Yeah him and hey, we had a good show. Yeah, he's great. Um And so it's like how do you break the uh Cognitive biases.  Yeah Well, what was paul stammer's story?   Yeah, 10 wet and then dry it had five I don't like wet It dries dries more accurate But my worst trip was three uh three grams in shroom tea That's it nothing else had alcohol and mixture of everything else. It wasn't just shroom tea Right And it was a such crazy it was crazy trip, bro.  No, not bala Was it bala?    No not the closet I locked myself in the room the size of a closet In a smaller little shitty cottage shack And like oh, but I knew exactly what's going on. That was a cool thing. It's like I know I'm tripping I know what's going on and then people showing up.  I need to uh Buy time and to to and you know, I got through that one. I just lay down Looked at the ceiling and I started breathing and what saved me believe we're not doing that trip and this is why like shamans really know how to Take you through the process In the background there was like a crazy club was the bass was coming And so basically I was following the rhythm of the bass To try to put me in a meditative state and it worked Yeah, man, I follow the music like I really I incorporated the music into me.  Yeah a sense of of of stability and and comfort and rhythm It was comforting the rhythm. So you you could hang on to that to what you can hang on to this one thing in the universe That was stable and consistent and helped you kind of move through the experience. Yep Yeah So you look at shamans, you know, they have the the music and the humming and the hymns like they take you through They know what they need to do at the right time to take you through the process Yeah, it's uh, ayahuasca shamans called ikaros ikaros right the Chanting and the music and music You know on any psychedelic experience and i'm sure you can you can testify to this as well on any psychedelic experience Okay, it's it's the music is felt at a whole different level.   Yeah, man Cool. I think we're wrapping up there, man. I think we're doing this like an hour and a half Great Yeah, man. Oh this was fun and Quick shout out if people want to get to know more about you and what you do and All that best resource for them to reach you Yeah, so you can reach me on instagram at ujrandes And if you want to know about some of the work i've done you can check out intelligent change.com or Search for the 500 journal the five minute journal Uh, it's essentially a toothbrush for your mind. We've sold over half a million copies It's a really popular way to get your day as for your day and end your day With a great feeling we have to ferris and a lot of really great influential people using our product And uh, I wish you the best Awesome, brother. Appreciate it. Like always peace


Hi everyone Joe for jazby's case breaks.com. We did it. We knocked out a full case break of 2021 Panini flawless baseball two box picker team at number two brand new release Just dropped today on this Wednesday, June 15th, 2022 at long last flawless Football has arrived very big. Thank you to everybody who bought their team straight up There's Robert last spot mojo star next to his name About the team last before we pulled them for the random number block and Pulled those teams for just one single random number block randomizer, which is in a separate video So that's the results though Set those off to the side right here Here's the fresh case Right there nice flawless football You jazby's case breaks calm we got more in the store. So check it out All right. Well Without further ado, good luck ladies and gentlemen. Let's see what we can do We got a gold briefcase gray sleeve Good luck use a few blank cards right here There's three in case card. We're gonna do those at the end of the briefcase It's like an autograph right in the middle Try not to peek at the hits we got Gem on one side and a relic on the other side Let's see what that's all about Do the slider box first and that's a nice hits here. Good luck everybody. Thank you everyone For getting into the action We'll use the jazby blank card right here to slow play the hits right on top First thing for four four out of five Dual relic Michael Carter. It looks like maybe a piece of the glove. Maybe the Nike swoosh is on the piece of the glove That's pretty cool Matthew Matthew Sharrah With the New York Jets got the jet straight up and We're leading off with a train whistle All aboard the big hit express Next up is Super Bowl relic Steve Young 21 out of 25 two-color patch Niners Jay Greggs Picked up San Francisco straight up and we got Alan a finnaca 7 out of 10 greats autograph for the Steelers Alex Oh Got Pittsburgh straight up Chris Godwin 20 out of 20 a lot of nice color there Fannica like that Rhymes with Danica That's for Matthew and the Buccaneers nice color Nice Fannica.  I always say this when I pull this guy Robert M last-bought mojo strikes again 70% of the time 100% of the time No Deandre Hopkins for a good chunk of the season early in the season PED suspension Christian Kirk got signed elsewhere Jaguars. I think so Maybe a little more little more room for this guy to operate Might take a flyer know on my fantasy team put him in the utility spot or something like that All right, there you go Robert Next is rich Ganon nice for my raiders 13 out of 15 for number 12 Nico my Raiders, right and the last one here is rookie debut signatures Najee Harris Eight out of 25 I hope he has a great year Alex Oh with the Steelers Left right and then center. I think the center was the autograph Left looked like a relic Here's a little card that says There these are naturally mined not lab grown. Good luck everybody. There's the relic and There is Trevor Lawrence eight out of 20 Two-color patch Trevor Lawrence Jaguars Sean Maddock picked up the Jags straight up On this side should be the gem three out of five three out of five mark Andrews emerald Ravens Aaron Billingsley with the Ravens straight up and All aboard the Big Hit Express All right and the auto in the middle Looks like Chargers colors the powder blue eight out of ten Chargers who? Oh Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert. Okay eight out of ten For number ten That's pretty nice And that is for Daniel Purdy With this party hit Congrats Eight out of ten All right one down one more to go They made the not sure if most of you will even notice, but they made the text really big on here I don't know if you know that the text would usually be like really tiny Who gets the briefcase? I don't know some some kid Some kid in the neighborhood We'll give it to a worthy child In the neighborhood to put Their pokemon cards in you should see their faces Card in the middle don't know who that is, but there is in the middle There's the gem on the right side. Don't know who that is try not to really look at the names And then oh, I saw an NFL shield I saw an NFL shield People sell them online. I think they're like People sell them for like I think if you wait until after a new release day I'm probably going for like 20 bucks or something like that Empty briefcase, but the kids think they're a million dollars. So their face is really bad Don't tell your son. I'll tell him it's a million dollars unless he's right there Roger Craig Frank Gore garrison or hers to trio of running backs trio of Niners running backs It's jay grags with the Niners some classics here. There you go. Joe P will give you a good price Frank or officially retired right all right next is 14 out of 15 mac jones divonta smith That's one happy person one sad person Got to do a randomizer on that patriots jeremy h with the pats and Nick and rico With the eagles. So we'll do that randomizer at the end along with any others that there may be We have marquez valdez scantling 17 out of 25 two-color patch and auto for the packers Kevin with the go-pack go And a four out of five christian acoye Laundry tag and autograph four out of five Nice is this going to fit into a 180? I think so Cut the card in half both men greg wants greg wants the king solemn solution here And the first bird says said that says no, don't cut it is the one that gets it just like the old it's like the old story Kansas City is a number block team. So that's kc4 Kansas City for Robert m There you go robert all aboard the big hit express That's awesome the nigerian nightmare All right a few more than the encased we've got four out of 15 john randall He's pretty great. That's daniel g with the vikings Yeah, olver remembers the nigerian did he did the nigerian nightmare? Am I mistaken oliver that he went to like a juko around here a junior college? Or am I making this up? I feel like he went to like azusa pacific university, but I might just be making that up Ah, he did. Yeah, you're right. I'm on the wiki right now He born born in nigeria arrived in the us at 21 did not play american football until 23 when he joined the squad At california's azusa pacific universe. That's like a small private school Um, maybe about 45 minutes east of us here Excelled in tracking field winning seven college towers in the shot put discus and hammer throw the first time he attended american football game He thought the game was boring and the story goes from there So kind of a local guy tony romo the announcer one out of 10 I guess I for one did not really Not that I really heard any examples of tony romo announcing a game, but I for one did not know that he would be as As entertaining as he is Dallas is a number block team. So that goes to dallas one. We go by that digit right there dallas one mathew mathew charale with that one And the last one here before the encased cards Dan the man marino teddy would love this one teddy jaspy one out of 15 Hall of Fame autographs Right the camera guys behind the scenes Dolphins joshua hoffman picked up miami straight up And gets dan the man They're covered I don't I'm not gonna say I thought I saw the player I think they were doing this. I think it might be a quarterback. That's all that matters That's I think it might be a quarterback now. Is it a rookie? Is it a vet? I don't know but All right, so naturally mine not lab grown This is the gem I believe I think he's live on instagram all over You're on instagram, right? 10 out of 20 sorry instagram 10 out of 20 joe mixon ruby Bangles cincinati. That's paul nordin paul picked up the bangles straight up There you go, ig So we'll just do the autograph traditionally we do the autograph last Nice 14 out of 20 Zach wilson Nice matthew charot picked up the jets straight up Gets rewarded with the zack wilson nice ig can take a look at that as well and Wait is the name on the bottom you think oh there it is just a shield one of one that's I don't think it's autograph I don't think it's autographed. I did not notice an auto. I think it's just the shield one of one Which is still great Can anyone tell by his waist? Oh, I think I know it is Any guesses here? I think one of one NFL shield Joshua allen Wow The buffalo bills are a random number block team Buffalo bills won Someone could have picked up buffalo straight up, but they did not it went into a random number block And matthew charot Got randomized number one All aboard the big head express And there you go ladies and gentlemen The case is almost closed on pick your team too. We do have a randomizer to do Matthew should go go to a casino and play some buffalo gold One of my favorite slot machines buffalo Let's go to random.org a little bit of housekeeping to do here Let's go to the random.org right here mat jones new england patrice avanta smith philadelphia We got a 14 out of 15 dual relic name on top gets it after Nine five to four nine times team on top one two three four five six seven eight And once more ninth and final time after nine Philadelphia gets it after nine Uh nick and riko with the eagles You'll get this dual relic and there you have it boys and girls. I'm joe for jaskiescasebreaks.com Thanks for watching. Thanks for breaking with us and I will see you next time for pick your team three. Bye. Bye