Perfect ski control is the greatest contributing factor toward the prevention of skiing accidents. The patrol unit that maintains this level of performance will have at all times the best chance of fulfilling its mission or to complete a hard-hitting military operation with the maximum efficiency and safety and a minimum of danger to any of its members. Let us examine the ski patrol as it comes down a moderate slope in long sweeping turns. Particularly at the end of the day when you're tired and your muscular reflexes have slowed down from the effects of fatigue, ski slowly and under perfect control even though you're tempted to get back to camp in a hurry. Otherwise you may misjudge a hazard and take a bad spill. Now the four skiers descend a steep rocky slope, the men swerving in and out among the rocks. One wrong move on the part of a trooper among these jagged rocks would result in a serious spill for someone. To safeguard against such accidents the good ski trooper must not only keep in the peak of condition and perfect his skill by constant training but he must also make sure that his equipment is in excellent condition to withstand any sudden shock or strain. The four men under perfect control come to a stop at the edge of a rocky precipice. To safeguard a patrol unit against accidents it is imperative that each member should know how to check his speed and stop safely in all types of snow on all kinds of terrain. This trooper is skiing too fast, he's out of control. Thus you see how the lack of ski control on the part of a trooper will cause a crack up. Time must now be spent by the other members of the patrol in administering first aid and returning the injured skier to camp, clearly demonstrating how the military effectiveness and striking force of the entire patrol unit is destroyed. Here a patrol is climbing up the side of a steep slope reaching the top the men come to a stop and remove their skis and rucksacks. Since the snow on the downward side may be of a different texture the men pick up a handful to inspect it in order to determine the proper wax to apply before commencing the descent. In as much as the snow is not wet they discard the wet snow wax but select a can of wax suitable to its dry and powdery condition. Let us see what can happen if a member of the patrol makes a careless mistake in selecting the improper wax as well as haphazardly applying it. As the result of a trooper's carelessness the rest of the patrol must come to his aid. Note how the snow stuck to the running surface of the skis. Improper selection and application of the wrong wax was the cause of this accident. Here is a trooper who after having reached the peak of a slope discovers that his ski is not properly adjusted. His heel wobbles because the toe plates are out of line or the heel spring is loose. The good ski trooper will correct this condition immediately. If he doesn't he will undoubtedly wind up in a bad spill. For safe skiing it is necessary to keep the ski bindings properly adjusted at all times. Be sure your heel is in the center of the ski and the toe irons rest snugly against the soles of the ski boot throughout the entire length of the irons. With the bindings adjusted in this manner the heel is held firmly in line with the ski and cannot shift to one side or the other. The heel spring is kept sufficiently tight to hold the ski boot against the toe irons. If the bindings are properly adjusted and you ski under control you can travel on a steep slope with perfect safety. But here is a careless trooper who has neglected to tighten the shoulder and belly straps of his rucksack. What he doesn't realize is that the weight of his loose rucksack will throw him out of skiing control. The smart ski trooper will always make sure that his rucksack is adjusted properly, cinching the shoulder and belly straps to hold it firmly against his back. If the pack resting in this manner against the back you will be able to make fast sharp turns without being thrown off balance by any shifting weight of your rucksack. This ski trooper has traveled with too much clothing and the strenuous exercise of skiing has caused him to perspire excessively. The same trooper because he has worn all of his clothes while traveling now has nothing left to put on during a momentary halt. This is the quickest way to become chilled as his clothes absorb the moisture and freeze. Thus the insulating value of his clothes are destroyed and heat will be conducted from his body causing the body to chill which increases the danger of his freezing to death. On the other hand the trooper who wears only enough clothes while traveling automatically guards against such a hazard. When this skier stops to rest he will be able to put on an extra sweater or additional clothing and have no fear of contracting a chill which might hinder the progress of his tour. When emerging from a forest or any other dense area the careful ski trooper will always stop to apply sunburn preventative to his face and neck in order to guard against painful complications. A trooper can become sunburned in winter just as easily as in summer as in all weather direct sunlight or reflected light from snow fog or clouds can cause a severe burn. This careless ski trooper has neglected to wear his snow goggles and is squinting against the glare of the sun as he travels along. Snow blindness is caused by direct and reflected rays of sunlight. The symptoms are a burning sensation in the eyes which increases to intense pain and a sandy feeling in the eyelids. The eyes become red and swollen and the victim is unable to look at any bright light or white surface and frequently he is unable to open his eyes. A victim of snow blindness may suffer severe pain for many days and be completely incapacitated. Until the snow blind trooper can be returned to his main base for emergency treatment a cold compress should be taped over the victim's eyes and gauze wrapped over the compress around his head so that his eyes may be protected from all light. There is no excuse for any trooper to be afflicted with snow blindness. The army sun goggles issued to each man if properly used eliminate all harmful rays of the sun. In the event the trooper should lose or break his goggles there are several methods to provide himself with a satisfactory substitute. It is in an emergency like this that the many extra pieces of equipment carried by each trooper can be put to ingenious use. One way to fashion a pair of goggles is out of cardboard the edges of which are rounded with the trooper's jackknife. The strip of cardboard is folded in half each corner is paired and the cardboard cut in two. Horizontal slits about one eighth of an inch wide. T-shaped at one end are cut in the center of each cardboard. This same operation is repeated on the second cardboard. A small piece of adhesive tape is used to join the cut pieces of cardboard and leather thongs are knotted and threaded through each of the t-shaped ends in order to secure the goggles to the head. These emergency sun goggles will permit fair vision to the trooper but most important will protect him against snow blindness. There is a second method to prevent snow blindness when the trooper is without his sun goggles. In this case the trooper unrolls gauze around his head to judge the proper amount he will have to use. He doubles the bandage and cuts it from the roll. Next he fastens a strip of adhesive tape on the cut end and secures it around his head. This bandage of double thickness will diffuse the harmful sun rays and still give the trooper an adequate degree of vision until he can get a new pair of sun goggles. The trooper who has damaged or broken his sun goggles should repair them immediately. To wear goggles in this condition is as harmful as not wearing any. Notice the open knife is thrust into the log so that the trooper will not lose it in the snow. The best method to repair them is to first cut two strips of adhesive tape, applying them to the outside of the frame. Narrow slits are left between the two strips for vision. The tape is then slit and turned under at the nose piece so that the goggles will rest comfortably on the nose. To prevent the sticky surface of the tape from coming in contact with his eyes the trooper places four smaller strips on the inside of the goggles to match those on the outside. These repaired goggles will adequately serve the trooper until he's able to replace them with a new pair. This picture has shown you some of the more important rules for ski safety. It is up to you to see that these rules are not violent. The military striking power of your patrol, the ultimate success of your mission and very possibly your life itself may depend upon these rules.


Okay, it's on, I can see it's on. Are we good? Boy, that's annoying. Maybe it's the bad weather. Okay, yeah. You can hear me, right? Okay, yeah. It's weird, it just went off. I don't know if it's just, sorry, of course, right in the middle of a kid needing something, okay. Okay, hold on. Okay, you can hear me. I'm in the North Island, I'm in Wellington. So, one second. It's distorted, clear as a bell. Okay, so some of you, this is why I'm not touching it. Some of you are saying it's good, some of you are saying it's not good, sorry. Maybe it's on your end, but I can see that mine is on, my microphone is working, and it's showing me as I'm talking. So, we won't touch anything. So, okay. So, we have mostly people from New Zealand and a couple from the States. So, yeah. A couple of things, what did I wanna talk about? Oh, my latest YouTube video with live last night, just because I thought we're all in lockdown and we have nothing to do. So, I thought I would put it earlier. The picture is distorted, yeah, it's storming here. So, oh my God. Of course, everything is trying to get in contact with me. Oh, you're in Tawa, okay. Am I distorted? What were they saying? YouTube video out about what's going on with employment in America, which is interesting. I'm high from Florida, so hopefully you find that interesting. If not, you can just ignore it this week. Everyone's talking about the New Zealand lockdown in Indiana, what are they saying? Do they think we're crazy? Oh my gosh, look at this. I've been sleeping good, I don't know why I got eggs. Anyway, can you hear me? Yeah, so I'll try to be clear. Oh, is that the Indiana girl? Oh, really? One of the COVID cases in Johnsonville sure exists at Johnsonville Medical Center. Yeah, I did say we, David. Okay, I am in Wellington. Okay, oh yeah, I was just in Johnsonville. Hello, Chicago suburbs. Oh, the other one's in Miramar. Okay, I was in Miramar, too. I feel fine. Yes, yes, Auckland has had more lockdowns in Wellington, that's true. So for me, it feels like it's been a really, really long time, but it hasn't been for you guys, for Aucklanders. Oh, I can't believe I have to do this right now. Why does everybody send it to the parents? I, and now my daughter's supposed to be in a Zoom and she doesn't have the Zoom link, sorry. Have I been in Miramar? Hey, from Auckland. So what do you guys think? Okay, let's put money down on what we think's happening at three o'clock. What is happening? What do you think? Been self-isolating for 18 months. Oh my gosh, where are you from? Hi from Hamilton. Yeah, it'll definitely be extended. I mean, she pretty much said that on the first one when she said if it's Delta, it's probably a week anyway. So whole North Island will be another seven days in the South, probably not. Oh, interesting, that's true. It could be regional. Didn't they find something in Christchurch? I've been working a lot. I haven't had time to read up on everything. Yes, New Zealand's zero case in Southern probably go to level three. Yeah, that's true. I just, have they really ever really gone down like right away? I think they've gone down right away like once. Like do you mean travel around New Zealand or like outside of New Zealand? Like I know that like what is business travelers opening up in October. So that'll be better. But hi from Sydney. How are you guys doing? How are you guys doing on Sydney? Yeah, around New Zealand, I hope so. I was planning a whole trip for this weekend and I ended up not at the last minute because anyway, ooh, Taranaki. Yeah, and I just, I'm so glad I did it because every single time I've tried to book something I've had to cancel it, even like for business stuff. Like I had to speak in Auckland and that was of course when Wellington went, you know, in lockdown. And so they were like, we don't know if we want you to come, I mean, they wanted me to come but I had to be like separate from everybody. So that's weird. I'm not gonna be like this person that's separate from everybody. Yeah, so just as we all think it's gonna be another seven days. What do you guys really think of it? Because I love it so far. I mean, I love having my daughter home.  I love not running kids to school and picking them up. And yeah, I know all these people like when I went to the grocery store and did not have masks on. And it's in Wellington, like, oh my gosh. Where was I? I was at home. I was at home when I heard about it. So do any of you have businesses? Like, how is that going for you? Hello. Oh, so you're in Australia. You lived in Minnesota. Oh, but you're from New Zealand, I'm guessing. I am coping fine. I mean, it's been a couple of days. Like, I don't know why everybody acts like it's this huge deal. We've barely had to be locked out in this country comparatively. I was just talking to my friend in the States this morning and their kids have been home from school for a year. And they're to the point where they're just sending them to school, nobody cares anymore. Nobody can agree on anything. They can't get consistency. And so, they're like, my kids literally cannot be at home anymore. She has a lot of them. So it's like, you just can't. Oh, sorry to hear your mom can't travel to Hamilton. So on maternity leave, no change. Yeah, I work completely online. So I have my own businesses and they're all online and then I teach and I'm all, it's all online. So it doesn't really affect me.  And I'm like, it's not a break. I'm just basically like trying to get, make sure people are like doing stuff, right? My kids are like actually doing what they're supposed to. And then just working whatever. So if you guys haven't seen, I posted the video that normally comes out on Sunday yesterday because we're all knocked down because I was done with it. So you can check that out. It's about what's going on in the U.S. in terms of employment, if you're interested in that. Also, if you're looking for something to cook and make over lockdown, check out my new American recipe book. You can get it on my website, kiwiamericans.com. So it's easy. And it's $8 and it's all adjusted for New Zealand, Australia, temperatures and ingredients. And it's really, it's only the recipes that you guys wanted me to do. I couldn't include every single one because it's an e-book and then it gets like really long. So, yeah, so check that out if you want to make something delicious over break. I've been getting some recipes from some American friends and I've just made some cinnamon rolls this morning for the fam and so that's fun. So check out that if you want something fun to do. I also, and just because I'm just giving you an update right now, it's all in my head, is I'm working on putting together a free TikTok seminar. So if you're for businesses really or people that just want to get on, that's fine. Like this is for people who have no idea what they're doing and have rarely used the app and are just kind of intimidated by it and that shouldn't be. And that is amazing organic reach if you are a business and it just isn't to capacity really at all. In New Zealand specifically, if you're in New Zealand, I don't know about Australia. And I think that there's great opportunities for business to just get tons of exposure. And I really think that this is helpful for businesses that are, yeah, that could use a little help with all that's been going on. And so I'll be doing, it's free because like people just need, I've been trying like, yeah. So I have a digital marketing company and I work with individual companies and yeah, so I'm going to be offering that in September. So I'm going to put a link, I haven't done, I'm like the working out of this morning, put a link up on my website, kiwiamericans.com or if you just want to click on any of the links in my social on Instagram, TikTok, just click on that. It's actually already on there. If you want to, it will be limited space, you know because it's free and like it gets too much for me to manage when there's a lot of people. So it's just going to be Zoom, it's going to be online and I'm just going to talk you through like the basics and like how to do it. Like I've been very successful on TikTok and so I feel very confident in how to use it and what it can offer to people and I've been real successful on there. So that's the only reason I have this YouTube channel because of my TikTok audience. So it's an amazing opportunity for businesses, specifically business to consumers. If you're a business to business, I would focus on LinkedIn and I can do a separate, probably training for that if you guys are interested in that, just text me or DM me, let me know, because that's helpful. Like I only like to do things that are helpful but my digital marketing business kind of exploded. So I'm plenty busy, but I really feel like like I just can see that nobody is teaching anybody how to use TikTok and I am a teacher by trade and so I'm going to do that free for you guys. So hi from UP Michigan. Oh my gosh, hi from Florida, West Auckland. Sorry, I've been talking. Okay, okay, I'm a self-employed. Oh, business I haven't recovered from the first, gosh. Yeah, I know. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, so I've been trying to promote a lot of businesses like I did a Queen's Tom trip and promoted a bunch of them because they were really struggling because there's such a tourist destination. And so, yeah, I've been doing that quite a bit with people and so, yeah, so let me know how I can help you. Christy, you like Christy? Yeah, so the video that came out yesterday is with Christy. So yeah, so if you are interested in that you can just probably go on my Instagram and just click on the link in that bio and you can get to the free TikTok course if you're interested and my recipe book from there as well if that's easier. So here is my, here I'll just put my, that is my webpage if you, everything's on there. So, except for the TikTok course, it's coming today. I haven't got that far yet, it's been busy. So anyway, anyway, anyway, enough about that. Let's talk about lockdown or whatever else you wanna talk about. Anybody else, let's start with questions. I always do these lives on TikTok and they always have so many questions for me. I'm gonna make cozy, cause it's cold, yes. You should check out my, and I'm not trying to sell my book to you even though it's only $8. It's, but my, I have, I have made, I make the best chocolate chip cookies, the most moist, amazing chocolate chip cookies. So, okay, great. I'm glad, Jamie, that would be helpful to have TikTok. So yeah, sign up, so I don't, I have limited space. Yeah, so I live in a house with central heating, so it doesn't feel cold to me. I can't, I don't know how you guys live cold here. So I have to have a house that has central heating. Yeah, so I make the best chocolate chip cookies, get the recipe off of the recipe book. It's, I can tell you the secret. Should I tell you the secret? The secret is shortening. No, is it shortening? Yeah, shortening. So you can figure that out on your own if you want. So yeah, so let me know, do you recommend moving to a country, different country in your 20s or later in life? Ooh, that's the question. Well, I didn't move to a different country in my 20s, so I can't really speak to that. I moved in my 30s and wished I would have done it sooner. Definitely. I probably like, just because you don't have like family and stuff, why don't you travel and see and go, just go, I don't know, COVID world, what is this gonna look like? I don't know. Sure, here is the link to the cookbook.  Anyway, yeah, I don't know. I would travel, where are you? Are you in the US? I would just go and see, you know, and because in your 20s is when you should be doing it. Have I heard of laughing Samoans? No. Sounds like something I would like. Move to New Zealand year 22. Hi from Australia, hello. Yes. TikTok did start as a dancing and has really transformed. So really it's a very strong educational platform. So if you can just go on there, but it's a different culture. You can't post on, okay, here I'm giving away all my free content to you. It's not similar that you can post like the same as you would do on a different platform. It has its own culture. So join my free webinar and I will teach you all the ways to be amazing, but the most important is to be yourself or just go and try it. I'm happy to help you, but sometimes just dive in and try it. Yeah, so someone's recommending to travel and move abroad in your 20s. Yes, I did struggle to find ingredients living in New Zealand making my American recipes. That's why I made my American recipe book for you because I have figured out on a lot of the key ones what to use in New Zealand and what to use in New Zealand that won't break the bank. Some of them are still are expensive like the deep dish Chicago style pizzas because you need a lot of mozzarella and mozzarella is not cheap here, but it's not too bad. Obviously you don't eat it that much. That's not good for you. Most things aren't good for you. Oh, that's nice. So is your son coming home? That's great. Oh yeah, there are a lot of ingredients in the US that you don't have here. Oh my gosh, what is love laughing Samoans? Is that like a TV show? I think it sounds like everything I would want. What is it? Yeah, my daughter goes to the University of Otago here. School is a lot cheaper here although she's gone into health science which happens to be the most expensive, but here we are. Okay, it's a comedy group. Okay, so are they on YouTube? Can I watch them on YouTube? Cause I think I'm gonna like this. Or can I just have to go see their show? I would definitely go see their show. Sorry, I'm thirsty. Okay, Cameron. Cameron asked a question. Can you explain why Amazon is so expensive to ship here? Okay, it's not expensive to ship here in my opinion.  And on my Amazon store, I have set up things that I like in the US so they either don't have here or they're too expensive here that ship to New Zealand at what I think is a reasonable price. So what I would suggest is shipping multiple things at once and then it brings the shipping down. Basically, I have a business on Amazon so I'm very familiar with the process in the US and I really need to add a lot more stuff to that store. I just haven't.  So basically, and then anything that you... So basically, this is my recommendation. This is how you use Amazon US cause that's the best one from New Zealand is when you go onto the Amazon site and you don't have to go through my store, okay? But if you go on the Amazon site and you put in your New Zealand address as ship to at the top left corner, it will only show you items that ship to New Zealand. See, that's the problem. So many people don't do that. They go through and they're looking for something and they love something and now they can't get it cause it's been shipped to you. So you don't even wanna see it. You don't even wanna see it if it doesn't ship to New Zealand. And then buy multiple things at once. And yeah, Amazon has really good negotiating power with all the shipping companies. So I don't think it's expensive to ship compared to other places. Okay, I can watch them on YouTube. Great. You can't get, okay, food, different issue. So food on Amazon is, yeah, there's issues with the getting through customs here in New Zealand, so don't even bother with that. Have I found grape jelly? Yes, I was just at the USTO in Johnsonville. Although I don't recommend that going there now. They have grape jelly, although they do ship. So go on their website, USTO. They had a big thing of grape jelly. My son was begging me for it and I didn't get it. So I don't get, hello, hi. I don't know, monthly food shopping in New, I don't understand the question. Basically in the US, the food, sorry, I'm just gonna check and see if I've got this email that I'm looking for. Oh, here, hold on one second. Do I know about Amazon, all that Amazon warehouse? What do you mean, like the FBA warehouses? Is that what you're saying? Well, I'm in Wellington, so I can't speak for Auckland, but, oh, Kiwi living in Canada. Okay, well, thanks for watching the videos. Sorry, of course everything has to happen right now. Yeah, so it is quite different. I'm glad I could highlight that for you.   They can turn it on and off. So like when they're at home, they talk in the American accent and then when their friends are around, I'm like, what? What is your voice? Yeah, they call bro and mate all the time. Netflix is different in the US. So if you wanna get the US Netflix from here, you have to get a VPN to bring you there. Differences between McDonald's, New Zealand, US. So I'm thinking about having Christy go into a Maccas in the US and I will be in one here because they are so different. Okay, first of all, hi from Christchurch. Hello, Ethan from Auckland. So first of all, they don't have those like the mini coffee shop inside. What is it called? McCafe or whatever. They don't have that in the US and they don't have like obviously the kiwi burger, but otherwise like the cheeseburger tastes the same, but the meat is definitely different. Like, because you feed your animals appropriately here. Oh, you finished work. Wish I was, yeah, McCafe. Yeah, okay. I don't use the VPN. I just use it. I have just emigrated to New Zealand and just use New Zealand for everything. What's on a kiwi burger? Okay, first of all, let's talk about beetroot. They put beetroot on it, sometimes it's pickled. So it's like pickles. It's like the replacement of pickles. And then sometimes eggs. Yeah, let's talk about beetroot. Can you tell them not a fan? Well, you know, I think it's just all what you're used to.  I love New Zealand. Yes, beetroot is good on a burger. Oh, the eggs are good if the yolk runs. I've enjoyed eggs on a lot more things than somebody's sandwich has beetroot. I didn't realize that. I don't really like Subway, so I don't go there. But, you know, what I figured out recently is like I've never, number one, I don't understand the lines at KFC. Number two, I have recently figured out that I'm not gonna go there because they don't have the extra crispy, but I just realized that the hot and spicy chicken is the extra crispy. So if you're American and you're here and you don't know this, now you know this, sorry. It's really good. Now I understand the lines. Yes, barbecue sauce is a big thing in New Zealand. What's it like? Well, it depends. They put barbecue on pizza. They're like, instead of like marinara, they put barbecue on a pizza. I have had a banafi pie, yes. So good. So yeah, they put barbecue on pizza. What else do you put? Yeah, the pizzas are weird. Like they put weird things on pizzas. They put like fancy cheeses on pizza. They have like Indian flavored pizza. Yeah, like the sausage that they use is like not Italian sausage. You know, yeah, they do the pineapple pizza. Texas burger combo at McDonald's. Ooh, I've never had that. What is that? Okay, let's not talk about all the restaurants we can't go to. Did you just say I'm a Hillary Clinton lookalike? Carl, okay, that does not make me happy. When I was 24 and her husband was in office, I got called that all the time, but she was like literally as old to be my mother. But yeah, so joking, I do look like her. The Kiwi burger is also called the Aussie burger in Australia. Well, who's is it? The Wicked Wings? So good. Thanks a lot. Have I tried the lolly cake cookie? I don't like lolly cake. It's weird. So a couple of things about the food. Actually, my, what am I, what did I feel like I just talked about this? Oh yeah, my YouTube video that's coming up next Sunday is on food differences. So it's like not like different foods, but like the foods that you think you're getting the same thing as you would get in the States about are different. Like when you go to a Mexican restaurant in New Zealand, what is this? What is this? I just can't even imagine what people from Mexico would think of what's on these menus. Octopus, I had the squid tacos, like what? Like they don't even have, but they don't even have regular tacos. They don't have enchiladas. They don't have chimichangas. And then, okay, if they do, I don't know what it is that I'm getting. Like this isn't Mexican food. So I know, right? Thanks, I'm hungry for macos too. Yeah, so obviously America borders Mexico. So we're gonna be very good at the Mexican food, but the fact that we're like completely wrong, I just talked to somebody on email, the other day was email or they DM'd me on Instagram saying that they're Americans. They quit their jobs and they're opening up a real taco truck up in Nelson area. And I'm like, yes, you are. Yes, you are. That's what needs to happen. Someone says that their Australian partner still orders chips and still gets like potato chips and not fries. Have I ever considered doing an only fans? Yeah, I have a, like you can join my YouTube, what's it called? I have like groups that you can join on my YouTube and like fan groups and so you're welcome to do that. And then, yeah, I could do a fans only live and I give you all the secret tips and all that's coming up because I have a lot coming up. I haven't even told you about it. Ooh, that's what I should do. Dig up the area, yeah, that's a good idea. How is the Taco Bell in Auckland?  Cause I have not been there. Yeah, I know, I gotta stop talking food. Trying to not eat. I fasted all the way until 1130. So that's pretty good. Just had a little bit of yogurt. What's going on, Carl? Not sure. Taco Bell Christ Church is not good, huh? Okay. Okay, my kids are freaking out, they're texting me. Yes, that's true. There's not a lot of sauces and it's always the same. Like the fact that you guys dip everything in AOLI sauce. Anyway, it's good. I've gotten used to it. I've gotten used to everything. So what happens is like when we go back to the States, we have this huge list of restaurants that we wanna go to. And then when we go, it's like rather disappointing. It's not real food. What is ranch sauce made of? Ooh, good question. So it is, let me think. I have it in my new American recipe ebook. If you wanna get it, it's the homemade recipe. It has dill in it, is a big one. But I believe it's sour cream and mayo. And lemon. It's a lot of ingredients. And like my homemade one is so good. So check out my ebook. American, kiwiamericans.com. Just go on, there's $8. And I have all your favorite American recipes on there. Cause everything gets dipped in ranch. Yeah, but we also eat a lot of raw vegetables, which you don't in New Zealand. And so we dip them in ranch dressing. And we took chicken in ranch dressing and it's so good. So yeah, that makes me wanna make that right now. Thank you. So yeah, you can get that off of my ebook as well. Like, look at all this. I'm trying to remember what else is in it. I'm happy to just tell you what's in it, but I'm not remembering offhand. It was quite a bit of herbs. Do I do sign copies of my book? Yeah, I do. It's an ebook. So you can get it, download it, boom, you have it. You can make some recipes tonight. If you make a recipe from my ebook, DM me a picture of it, post it somewhere, do a TikTok video on it, whatever you want. I would love, love to see it. So let me just, I really think you should make the Philly cheesesteak. You should definitely make the Philly cheesesteak. Cause it's like the original one from Pat's Steak House in Philadelphia and it's the right one. Um, okay. Is food more expensive in New Zealand? So it depends. If you go the organic route and you want it to be the same quality as New Zealand, then in the US, then no, it's the same price. When I leave it because I miss, okay, yes. It does, definitely. So like what I was saying before is when I go back to the States, like it's always rather disappointing. And, um, yeah. Of course anything that's in the season is really good. What's my favorite food in New Zealand is drum roll. Fijoas. That's right. I'm saying it right now. I normally call it fijoas, but I'm calling it fijoas because you guys always yelling at me about that. Fijoas, that's what I'm having. That's my favorite. Fijoas. Okay, how was the Mexican food truck at the Tabapa, like the whatever outdoor market at Tabapa, it was a good. Let me know. I haven't, last time I was there, it was a hungry. So I didn't get anything. Yeah, so good. Yeah, so try the chipotle cheese steak. Yeah, so if you chose as my favorite food, I have it all frozen so that I can also make stuff with it in the wintertime. I'm like, I'm crazy about it. Like everybody I know knows how much we're crazy but they'll give us huge packs of them. Huge things and we'll eat them all in two days. Good question. Why did I choose New Zealand over Australia? Good question. Because growing up, I did lots of reports on Great Barrier Reef, lots of things about Australia, quail bears is my favorite animal. Definitely wanted to go to Australia. Then my husband mentioned New Zealand and literally in 2013, when I Google searched anything in every mention of New Zealand, I couldn't find one thing wrong with this place. Not one thing. Oh, you're buying my ebook. Thanks, Jordy. Yeah, so came here. And plus, you know, I'm really glad that I'm here. Like I've been to Australia quite a few times. You know, it's fine. It's too American for me. Like if I'm guys, I'll just live in the US. This is at least feels, because it's so British, it's a more of a British feel in New Zealand that it feels like I'm in a different place and just the landscape is so much better. Like I'm not living in a desert like or everywhere. So I mean, obviously the cities are great. The beaches are great. I really like Sydney and Melbourne. I've been to Brisbane, Gold Coast, drive all around. I mean, I like it there, but I prefer New Zealand. Okay, so if you don't like Fijoas, then just give me yours. Fijoa tastes like pepper. What are you talking about? It's the perfect sweet sour. So Kristine needs to come to New Zealand. So all the videos that I do with her, and you have the ad money that I get, which isn't a lot. I'm saving though to get her to come here, but she's freaked out about flying. So we'll see. We're gonna need to work on that. Okay, sorry, I'm trying to read what everybody's saying. There's a lot of comments. Yeah, so we do need to get Kristine here because could you imagine, we'd have to do like a New Zealand tour with Kristine and like whenever we are in a town, we'd post where we are and then you guys would come talk with us. Like that would be so fun. Like meet and greet everywhere around New Zealand. That would be so great. I've been, people keep asking me to do a meet and greet. I haven't done one yet, but today, that's what I say. I'm like, just have a glass of wine. You'll be fine. You'll be passed out. And then you'll have like three hours left when you wake up. Yeah, so we are coming out with Tara Christie Show and on YouTube. It'll have a different look to it, different style about it. It's September 1st, I think is our first one. I, yeah, it's hard to get in this country. Like I would think she'd probably just be visiting. Do I ever get, oh, recognize when I'm out and about. Yes, every time I'm out. Yeah, so, no I do. And it's so funny because sometimes I think when they're younger than I think it's definitely from TikTok. Most of it's from TikTok, but like, it surprises me. It's a lot more from YouTube than I was expecting. So there's a lot of YouTube recognition as well. So it's fun. Yeah, Ethan, I'm not talking politics. So yeah, so okay. So I've been on here for 42 minutes. So that seems long enough. Anything else you're dying to talk about? Thank you. I'm seeing all these orders coming in for the recipe book. And it's a great way to support me. Like I've been doing, putting out content about U.S. for over a year now. And I do get some money from YouTube, but nothing on TikTok and all of that. So if you're at all interested in that, it's only $8, keilyamericans.com. Also, I offer like CD writing services, interviewing, various digital marketing, all on my website. If you wanna go under the consulting tab, I can help you with any of that.  It's just great for small businesses or big businesses, doesn't matter. People need to be on there and they're not. Like I've just noticed like Bunnings has come on. I've just noticed a couple big ones have come on and they're okay. They think that they need to be professional on this platform and they don't. And so it's a different culture on TikTok. So join my seminar, I'll help you with it. I've been very successful on TikTok. I think it's a great platform for organic reach for businesses, so I'll check it out. Okay, sorry, I'm just gonna read a couple more. Go back to Wisconsin. No. I watched you blow up and I'm really struggling. Oh, okay, I'm not sure. Oh, like on TikTok? Okay, yeah, yeah. I am here to help you. So like my free course is going to be general. Like let me get on there. If you want some specific help, just book some time with me through my consulting on my webpage and I'm happy to help you with that or whatever, just send me some questions if you just have some questions. So just really trying to help New Zealand businesses get back up, like I can't even imagine. So yeah, so anyway, you guys have a great day. I loved hanging out with you today and until next time.


think tech Hawaii, the middle way, we're having a creative experience here at 10 o'clock in the morning in Honolulu on a given Monday. And we have our regular contributor, Chiang Wang and a special guest, Jonathan Feinberg. Jonathan Feinberg is a, I guess he's an art historian and a critic of contemporary art. And well, that's just a very limited introduction. So Chiang Wang is going to give him a fuller introduction. And Chiang, try to keep it to an hour and a half, will you? Oh, well, that's a good start and an hour and a half that will not be enough because Professor Feinberg has probably more than 30 books. And his career has been more than half a century. 21 years ago, I became Professor Feinberg's master student, a graduate student master program at the University of Illinois, 21 years ago. Oh my God, and he was there at that time, right? And Professor Feinberg and his wife, Marianne Feinberg hosted a family dinner upon my arrival. And for the next three years, I spent numerous time with Professor and studying American art, contemporary art and modern art. Professor Feinberg, in my view, is the best art historian in the United States. He's not only art historian, but he's also a critic of the reader. And the most important thing, he's a very prominent art educator, have educated thousands of thousands of art students around the world. In 2015, I had a great honor and privilege to host Professor Feinberg's first China visit and with my Omar Tarpe in film academy. 2005. 2005. 2005, I can't believe it. That's all my time just flies. So that was many, many years ago. And it seems that even before that, Professor Feinberg has written about Chinese contemporary art in his masterpiece, Art Since 1940, the Universal Textbook on Contemporary Art. And after that, I think Professor Feinberg had built very strong relationship with the art community in China and befriended with many, many leading and prominent Chinese artists. And most importantly, Zhang Xiaodong. And I will leave these two professors to you tell us about his friendship with Zhang Xiaodong and his very important book about Zhang Xiaodong. But I know this an hour and half is not enough, but I know my time is limited.  Oh, thank you, Jay. So, Professor, what would you like to correct or add to from that introduction? Do you want to express any rebuttal? Well, first, I want to say I wish my mother was alive to have heard it. Secondly, I want to say, you know, that my first trip to China was in 2005.  And finally, when I, you know, and I'm sure he probably arranges, I don't know if this is true or not. But I think that he probably was behind the fact that I got an invitation from the Beijing Film Academy to show a film on 20th century American art that I had just done for PBS in the US. So I thought to myself, boy, I'm I'm definitely going and Marianne and I got on a plane and went and and Wang Chang and his wife came with us. And he went every took us everywhere. We saw so many things and we he translated for us everywhere we went. I mean, if it weren't for him, I probably never would have gotten any of this. But we between us, we I remember after showing the film for which he translated the subtitles, I came out and I found that my arts in 1940 book was translated into Chinese and was in huge stacks out in front of the lecture hall being sold. I had I had no knowledge of this and I was very happy. And it turned out that that because there really isn't a lot to read all the all the contemporary artists had read it. So and we were taken out by the president of the Academy to a very fancy dinner. And at the end of the dinner, he said to me, I'm leaving town for for for a week. Why don't you just take my car and driver for a week? So I thought, well, that's pretty hard to turn down. And between between that and the fact that the the Zhang and Meng, his his wife, Meng Teng, came with us and translated for us. And I just made a list of every prominent, interesting, sounding Chinese artists, contemporary artists, like a thinker who lived in Beijing. And we went to every studio I I could. And it was and it was a very it was very intense. And I we got some help also from Long Lin, who runs Pace Beijing or was running Pace Beijing, the dealer there, who knew everybody. And and I just immediately became very much involved with the Chinese arts team, which was was and is active. These are great, great artists who Americans just know almost nothing about. So that's how that got started. But it really is a thanks to one drum that I got anywhere with that. You know, I was there. I was there at the same time, actually, Jonathan, I was I was in my second trip to China was right around then. And we were staying in a hotel directly. You must know this place, Chang, directly across the hall of the people is huge square. Everything is huge in China. I want to say the Beijing Hotel. What was it? You're right. Beijing Hotel. And in the in the Beijing Hotel, the entire lobby, which was very large, was dedicated to an art exhibit. And I looked at the art and I was just astounded how good it was. It was really fabulous world class art, never seen a collection like that. So I can relate, at least as a as a novice, I can relate to your delight at seeing this quality of art in China when you were first exposed to it. So how did how did that work for you, though? Because you'd been studying art as an historian and a critic of contemporary art. And now you're faced with a whole new genre level of talent.  And it's been that way ever since. Am I right? Yeah, well, I mean, I've been pivoting my whole life because I never know enough. So what what happens? This will be on the final exam, by the way. Anybody watching this show is going to be on the final. But, you know, I did a book called Art Since 1940, Strategies of Big, which was the standard. There was a child was talking about this was the standard book for 25 years. And and I updated it about every five years because it's art since 1940, which means there's always new things happening. And I'm always trying to catch up to what, you know, where the last play landed, basically. And at a certain point, actually, very recently, I took it out of print because I wanted to redo that as a three volume 20th century. And I've been thinking about the problem, you know, of our perspective on this. So the first part of it is really focused on Europe and America as and the tradition of the avant-garde, which was exclusive to Europe and America. And then from about 1914 to 1970, you have the kind of a pathiosis of this, but you suddenly begin to get the influence of other cultures in this. First, people didn't realize how many other cultures are in America. And that was one of the revelations of the first part of this. But after 1970, it became a global issue and the avant-garde in a way became moved. And so and I'm really rethinking that right now as I do this last volume of that three volume book, which would have otherwise been the update of the art 1940 will now be a 20th century article. But you know, it's made me think a lot about, you know, how our frame of reference has changed. And certainly one of the things that impacted that was seeing this Chinese art because I realized that from about 1980, when the very first graduates of the reopened art academies in China after the Cultural Revolution, there was a generation of artists who have been waiting for 10 years to get into an art school and they were already very competitive. So the kind of level of students that they had was extraordinary. And there's brilliant people came out of that and they in a way engendered a whole Chinese art scene and it was like I felt like I was watching the Italian Renaissance unfold because there were so many talented people and of Dutch height quality and they were so well informed and well read. And it was just it was a revelation and I continue to be fascinated by what they do. Well, let me let me take a moment and ask a China question, you know, what does art mean to the people in China? I'm going to ask you what it means to the people in the United States and a little while, Jonathan, what does it mean to the people in China? I mean, I'm thinking of Ai Weiwei, an artist, right? But he's also a political person. Is there a connection? Is it popular? What do people, you know, do people make the connection? Do they see it as a political statement or do they see it in some other way? Is it is inherent inherent in the Chinese culture? Well, let me respond. It's a very profound question and require a very complicated answer. But let me respond to you by saying that Ai Weiwei is probably the most well known Chinese artist in the world, but at least known Chinese artist in China thought of political activities. So he's not very well known in China. But to answer the main part of your question, what does art mean to Chinese people? And art today is a profession, is an industry, is a discipline, is highly specialized and professionalized you know, arena.  But there are a separate, if you made a separate work of the art work, that means the art historian and critics like Professor Bamberg, the creators and the pretty active artists. Those people formed a kind of separate community from the rest of the lay people. And they are, they have, they are certain rules and there are certain protocols in this community. You know, I'm looking at the screen behind you in your room, there in your office, what the case may be. And I'm saying that's, you know, traditional Chinese screenpainting. That's actually Japanese. Japanese, OK. Japanese, but this is what I call, this is what I call. My point is that what I saw in the Beijing hotel, completely different, completely different.  It was modern art. It was exact. Let me go back to Jonathan for a moment. Jonathan, the people in the United States, you know, in the culture, call it the culture, which everybody's been studying the last few years, examining the culture of the United States, where does art fit in it? And is it in an appropriate place for the, you know, the citizens of the United States to appreciate it? Or have we not given it enough attention? You know, works of art are, first of all, every artist is different. And I don't even think, you know, we think we look at Chinese art and it's a it's a collection of extraordinary individuals. But I wouldn't say that there's one relation that that in China they have to their own people in their own art. You know, Ai Weiwei is, of course, very famous here. But, you know, you don't look at Ai Weiwei because of the character, the object so much as his political acumen and his his kind of brilliance that characterizing that relationship. You know, some of the other artists and, of course, as a result of that, the Chinese government wants nothing to do with it. But the but the other artists like Jiang Zhaogang is not so overtly political. And he is very well known in China.  And and he is, to my mind, I would say he's China's greatest painter right now. But there are others also of extraordinary quality. And, you know, what's interesting about a work of art ultimately is that it's a it's a way of mediating your experience of reality. And, you know, it's always changing, you know, the definition of art. Nobody's ever been able to come up with a definition of art because it's always changing. It's always about it's always. It's the totality of everything that we think is art. And that's constantly evolving because society and problems are evolving. And we need a way to to organize our relationship to you know, I'll tell you, I think it's always I love the the the idea of the metaphor of a marriage because, you know, when when you marry somebody, you fall in love with somebody, it's very disorganized. You know, you have somebody else suddenly coming in, coming into your very private spaces of your life, doing things in that space that are sometimes quite disconcerting. And you put up with it because you love them and there's so many gratifications in the relationship.   Jonathan, what now you've been writing about creativity.  This is really important. One of the shows we do here on Think Tech is the American Creativity Association, believe it or not, out of Texas. But I just wonder, you know, why you did that and what it means to you and how it differs from, you know, your I guess your initial phase in this business as an art historian and critic. Well, I've always been interested in this problem because I think that a great work of art disorganizes you like a relationship. You know, if you really are moved by it, it's a little disturbing. And at the same time, it gives you an opportunity with no consequences to reorganize yourself. And you're reorganizing yourself in relation to an artist's experience of reality, which is usually very sharp. And so that's why I'm so interested in Christo.  Yeah, let's go through a picture show here. So we'll take. OK, you tell us what these are now, Jonathan. OK, so that's an early. That's one of Christo's very early styles of work. He just started wrapping, packaging things and you have no idea what's inside it for mystery. It looks very ordinary. You first look at and you think it's not a work of art at all, which is, of course, every great work of art begins as not being art until it redefines the concept of art to include itself. And that's what the avant-garde tradition is all about. But go to go to the next Christo. Let's see what else you've got there. So that's a project that he did in just a couple of years ago. The last project he finished before or one of the last projects he finished before he died. That was 2016. And he he he built a walkway that goes across like Isio in Italy. So you're walking across water. And it's a long walk from the from the mainland to these islands, which are otherwise inaccessible, except by boat. And he he put this up only for for two weeks. And it cost millions of dollars, all of which he raised from the sale of his drawings. It pays for everything himself because it's all about being free as an artist. And one of the things it does is it makes you you're in this. And you're having this real experience in reality.  And that's the works of art do they give you this opportunity to kind of rethink your your your way of organizing yourself in relation to reality.  And you know, it was just it was one of the most inspiring things. Do what else is on there for Christmas? There's no other crystal. There's one that he did in Miami. That was that was in 1983. He was called the Surrounded Island. And he went into a Biscayne Bay in Miami and he put a 250 foot wide skirt around 11 of the 14 islands in the Biscayne Bay. Again, only for two weeks because once, you know, once it's been up for a while, he takes it away. So you have to imagine it. And the reality of it is what's in your mind. It's not what's in the, you know, what's actually physically there. You don't want to get he doesn't want it to be reified. So but there again, you know, it's all about the reality of the situation, you know, the colors are very much inspired by the real the real environment. Everybody's having to do their job, you know, the marine patrol is still patrolling the bay and directing traffic. But now they're doing it in relation to this completely irrational thing. And it makes them think about it again. And when that was up, I went around interviewing all these people and I had amazing conversations with these people. You know, one of the marine patrol guys said to me, you know, I've been patrolling Biscayne Bay on a boat for years and on the weekend, the holiday weekends, you know, we have all these accidents and disaster. And he said there's more traffic out looking at this project right now than any holiday I've ever patrolled. And there hasn't been a single accident. So, you know, let me let me take a moment and make myself an observer of this. So I see this and I see this pink pink, of course. Flamingo pink color that has something to do with Florida. And and it's it's it's around the island. So you say this makes you think now, I'm not a sophisticated art, you know, art person. But what it makes me think is, you know, it's like a soup. It's like there's it's sorry. It's maybe borscht, kind of a pink colored borscht. And it makes me think of the water and this island is special. But why is the artist doing this? What is he trying to tell me? And I suppose I would come up with some ideas about what he might be conveying. Is this the right approach? Sure, sure. I mean, I think that everybody, you know, there. It's like John Cage said about the first event that he organized at Black Mountain College. And I think he said every seat is the best seat because it's your seat.  But, you know, no matter how you experience this, and Christo said this, you know, it doesn't matter whether you see this in a book in the library in Denver or whether you actually were there and watched it happen or you saw it in television. Everybody has a reality of this project in their head. And it's their experience of it that really matters. And it's what it does in terms of their relationship to reality. How do you how do you rate this? In other words, if everyone has a different view of it, a different reaction to it, a different kind of set of questions about it. How do you rate a good piece of our contemporary art against the not so good piece? What's the metric? Is there a metric? I'm really asking you about art criticism. Right. So the metric for me would be how much how much did it affect how many people? And I think that, you know, when you think about that project we were just looking at in Miami, I mean, there's probably other go ahead and see if one of the pictures are in there. Let's see some others. We can put them in the same context. Yeah, there's another one of I think of the poem of repair. Oh, this one, so this one right now is about to happen. September 18th will be the last crystal project that he's completely organized himself. His studio is going to put it up. He's going to wrap the Arc de Triomphe from Paris for two weeks. And that's what you're seeing as a collage that he made. And in each case, you know. Well, I think about the I was thinking about the Marine patrol guy. But another conversation I had in Miami with somebody was I went to a little Havana one night for dinner while the project was up and I said to the waiter and I said, did you go see the project? And he said, no, he put his thumbs down and he said, no, good. And I said, really, did you see it? And he said, no, I didn't see it. But my son went over there, drove over the causeway and he said he couldn't see anything. And I said, well, I said, well, did you see it on television?  It was on the Mount Miami Herald was on the front page every day for a week. It was on television. And he said, so I said, did you see it on television in his face lit up? He said, oh, yeah, it was fantastic. And it was like we were talking about two different completely different reality. And, you know, with the with this Arctic tree on thought, you know, I started to talk about the about them. That project in Italy, you know, which was the floating piers was in the middle of nowhere. It was 100 degrees heat and 1.2 million people found their way to come see that in the first week. And this project, I bet you're going to have three million people show up. And is it is it because I mean, there's got to be a factor of public relations in this too. Is it because they are, you know, curious and because it provokes them because they have lots of questions about it. They want to make some some sense out of it. And or is it also a function of seeing it on the front page of hearing critics talk about it of seeing public public relations campaigns about it. Both factors, I'm sure, are at play, but how do they work together? All of all of the above and more. So, you know, that's absolutely right. But I mean, they don't. Crystal never engaged public relations. It was just people reported on them and talked about them and experienced them in different ways. And in order to get them built, he would do a drawing like I just showed you for the for the Arctic Fiona and it looks so real. You look at it and you feel like he's really going to do this. And that fills the momentum in people's minds. And then they start talking about that momentum carries it forward. And when you start to think about the fact that in Paris, you've engaged, you know, three million people in the building of a work of art. What other work of art does that mean? You got three million people who are so curious about this. And so and I want to come see it. And and when it's gone, they remember it. And there's conversations that go on forever about it. So that's very important. And I'll tell you what, my my model there, really, when I was a student, when I was a college student, one of the one of my professors was a man named Eric Erickson. I don't know if you know who he was. But he was a cycle analyst who wrote a book called Gandhi's Truth. And he wrote Young Man Luther and other books. And what he what he said is that Gandhi and these other people thought were people with with psychological issues that they sorted out in a dynamic way. But they did it in public. And their issues were enough related to other people that they became ideology. So, you know, Gandhi became the founder of a new nation. But in one sense, bounding a problem for himself that everybody could relate to. And I think that's what that's one of the models for a great work of art. A lot in that. Can we we only have a few minutes left. Can we talk a little about the Art Museum of Philadelphia? Let's put a picture of the front of it up. So what is it? And how does it bear on the scene and exactly why did you select that place to do your work? Well, the I have studied psychoanalysis and I began to study neuroscience because I really want to understand what happened in the brain when creativity takes place. And I think I got to the place where I could actually teach it. Because I understood enough about the dynamics. And just at that point, I wrote a book called modernize the border of mind and brain. And I was asked by the National Academies of Science and Engineering and Medicine to talk about that last chapter. And I met a guy there who was who I thought was brilliant. We had this wonderful conversation. I had no idea who it was. And I happened to say to him, you know, I retired from the border of the trustees, the Phillips and the University of Illinois, all these things. I'm going to move. I don't know where I'm going to go. You know, my age, I better do it now if I'm going to do it. So he said, well, and I said, I'm thinking about Philadelphia. So well, that's really funny because I've just been appointed the new president of the University of the Arts.  So we get there and over dinner, basically, he said, you describe the process of being able to teach creativity. I'm I'm I'm the new president here. This is an art school. And what we really are interested in is advancing human creativity. He rewrote the mission statements for the university is simply advancing human creativity. So why don't you create a PhD program for me that does that? So that's how I ended up here. Oh, that's great.  You know, have you made have you made tons of money in trading art? Oh, never. That worries I fall within the job description of a critic and an historian. You go up to 57th Street of Manhattan and buy and sell expensive art. Well, my problem is that, you know, I I'm given often great things and sometimes I've even bought a few things, but I can never sell them. I can't I can't work with them. And so that's my problem. I'll never get that because of that. So what's your advice to people in general? I I would limit it to students, but I don't think I should limit it. What what is your advice to people in general about how to relate the art, how to have that special trends and dental experience with art to enrich their lives? You know, you just want to have an open mind again. It's like meeting somebody, having a relationship. You're looking at you go go into the museum and find that one thing that speaks to you and really look at it, you know, and ask yourself, you know, what what is the list? I think your reaction to that project is perfectly that's the way to go. You know, you ask yourself, how do you feel about this? What does it remind you of? Where does it take you? What is, you know, what's challenging about it? What what don't you like? Because often what you don't like turns out to be the most important thing. China, let's let's go to you for a minute now. Now it's clear to me from this brief discussion that Jonathan Feinberg's life has been affected by the gift you gave him of things Chinese. But my question is the other way around now. After all these years, you still know each other. You still relate and you still observe the work of the other and so forth. How has Jonathan Feinberg's work and your relationship with him changed your life? Everything. And let me first correct you that to. I took the credit to to host the perfect family, one of his visits to China.  And definitely a smaller part of this very broad academic war. But. How about Professor Feinberg's influence on me? Is Professor Feinberg, you mentioned open mind, you mentioned creativity. And I have categorized people into two basic big categories. One category is people they don't know, they don't know. And you know what I'm talking about. And then another category is the people do know what we don't know. That's you, Jay, Professor Feinberg and me. But we for the second category, we keep the open mind and we keep trying to understand and learn the things we don't know. And we understand no matter how hard we try, there are still a lot of things we don't know. But that keeps us humble and it keeps us creative and it keeps us being open minded. That is the biggest thing I learned from Professor Feinberg over the past 21 years. And I look forward to continue to learn from him. Thank you, Jay. Thank you for introducing us to Jonathan Feinberg. And discussing this really interesting subject. And let me say that one thing I know, whether I do know that I know it or I don't know that I know it, is that we have only touched the surface of your life and study and what you teach. And Jonathan, I'm frustrated beyond description that we only scratch the surface. We can spend so much more time examining your work and your perception of things that I'm frustrated that we haven't done that. Maybe we should make sure to come back. We should come back and we should go much deeper, you know. I agree. That would be great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's wonderful to meet you, Jonathan. Thank you so much, Shang. I'll see you soon. Thank you, Professor. Okay. Take care. Bye-bye.


The discussion of the day about Kujitegemaa, Kujitoma. You know I have mentioned Judy several times because she is a self dependent lady who doesn't depend on, doesn't wait for a man to give her money to go on with her life, which is the direct opposite of what most girls do today. My name is Sankaraka Esu and I am Sankaraka Esu in all social media platforms and the discussion is 30% in our social media that is Atwet54 on Twitter at SandaSco. And the question there is, mutu anezafanya ni ni, diazze aache kusumbua kukua omba omba.  It's ridiculous, it's very ridiculous and I'm in this studio with ladies and today I have here ladies because it's a learning session, they say that it's good to learn when you're still there. So I'm going, these ladies are going to be my model to all ladies out there watching on how you can survive on your own. The two ladies here in the studio are Kavata and Effie and they are going to introduce themselves starting with Kavata, starting with Kavata. So Kavata you are going to tell us everything about you, you name, your real name may be a pronunciate but I also said one name, you have not said another. So everything about you, your name, your social media platform, what you do and everything. My name is Babra Kavata, I'm a student in KCA, Patekin Economics and Statistics and my social media platform. On Instagram my name is QKaomba, QUE and on Facebook it's Afrika QKaomba. What? You are not QKaomba, you are not human. Because I can see, you do? Economics and statistics. Okay, which year? I've just completed my first year. Welcome on set QKaomba. Thank you. Yes, and then you have Effie, Effie is not your first time here.  My name is Effie Otondo, also a student at Kisi College, Patekin Information Communication Technology, not yet specified. Social media handles. In Facebook Effie Otondo, Twitter Effie Otondo, Effie Otondo everywhere. Everywhere, you are really proud to be Otondo. Yes, I'm proud to be Otondo. I see, can you help us here when things are not going on with our computers here? I'm still learning, but what I can do? You can do. Okay, both of you are welcome here. Thank you. You look good by Brandt Young, beautiful, everything. So, I wonder why there's something called Girlfriend Allowance now in relationship. Somebody told me that if somebody is a Girlfriend, then there's a Girlfriend Allowance. That other person should be giving you every time you meet. Once you take on it, let's just start with you Effie, because you... Girlfriend Allowance. It looks like there's a person who should be giving you every time you meet.   But to me, it's not a must.  Yes, I'm still a Girlfriend, because maybe I wanted to give you a job, but I didn't want to give you a job. So, I don't want to give you any support. But I want to give you support. But that Allowance, I have been in our society, like we have been in our society, we ladies, to make it clear, I should be able to pay the bill, I should be able to pay the bill. I should be able to pay the bill, I should be able to pay the bill. I love your dreams. But... How could you say that? How could you say that? I don't know what to say. Yes, but sometimes we as ladies, have you ever thought about, what if you're the one to give him a treat? We feel good when given a treat. But what if you're the person giving that guy a treat? How will the guy feel? You should revenge positively. Yes, like in Afaiku kwa, he gives, but at the same time, you should also give, because it's a love thing, to not depend on it. See be assured. Exactly. You take on this cover. Let me ask you, Babra, which name do you like between Babra and Kavata? Which one do you like most? I like Kavata, because Babra sometimes is mispronounced. When you wanna quit a barabara, give us your opinion about this girlfriend allowance thing. Okay, my take on girlfriend allowance, it's not bad to be given an allowance. A relationship is based on how to people they relate. So if you feel like it's nice for you to give me an allowance, then well and good, it's not forced. So you see, for an allowance, when you give me, it makes me like api anata person, you know, for a girlfriend, ana portrayi wengi chadi akiako. So ni kei na injeni, mi chapa. Ata fil vibaya. Yes. So I think it's an essential, but it's not a need. Oh. Yes. So, kuna sema anafakufanya ibu, tuko manufaya ake, usi chapa, usi anekana ibu, yuneni girlfriend wa George, ane chapa ibu. So it's for him. No. Ni wanyeturi anata ka, kwa ata billa the girlfriend allowance, I have to look good. Ya. Yes. Exactly. Okay. So, people have taken relationship as a career now.  Yes.  Why don't you have your parents do that for you? Nili sema ata billa your allowance. I have to look good. I have my parents who can give me the money. But you see, I said, kwa manufaya ke, kwa e kuji tole mwenyewe, si eti, it's bill first. If you feel like you love me, and it's like, you wanna give me the allowance, then we're not good. Efi, kavata is sounding like, sila zima pe ane, wunye you sounded that way. Sila zima pe ane, bata ke toa, si zi mind. No. Ya. Exactly. Why don't you guys be, have integrity, kusemaza zenge, ane kiku paya pesa, I don't think I need that money. Just keep it. Aa, kunamto na kataanga pesa. No, we all need money. If you feel like giving, just give, I'll be grateful. If you see kataa pesa at some point you say, maitu, I don't think I need this, you need it more than me. Just keep it. Actually, akini paya, it means that, kuna e niya konayo, ki dogoya kuji, kuji sustain you see. Aa, obviously, atani paya something kasmoli e niya ta feel like. Aa, nimo na you need this, chukwa ego, make your hair, chukwa ego, buy something good. It's more of a toke, like going somewhere and then he sees a nice cloth. Na, ane fikiri e na mue, ah, let me buy this for her. Na ane lete, I'll be grateful. Thank you, you bought it. Ane the next time, mata mi ni ki, and I'll feel like I need to gift him because he does that all the time for me. So it's, at least I need to do it for him too. Na nu nulia na he'll be grateful. You see, that one, we are keeping the love thing. Oh, you sustain it, you are latching it. Ya, alafu, inaka tu, uniki tutu smart, uniki tutu tamu ya, uniki tutu nzuri. Kupewa perasa. Skia we, this is typical kei yazi, ladies behave. Kava tu nasakata perasa wuki ona, your boyfriend I need it more than me. Nasa say mam, just keep it. Na ekonomi, ni kata ipesa, apesa, aje. I need money. I chose this panel. They are young people. Kavata is 20, oh, Kavata is turning 20 on Monday. Today is, today is, Wednesday.  Na wami penda perasa. Fee is 21 and I know you turn 21 just recently. Ya. So these are just more of a teenager. Na wami penda perasa. Like, wami yu wa kwa lazima wa pera perasa. Do you think this is a problem with Kenyan girls? Okay. Kupewa perasa, see lazima. You can work to get your own money. But if somebody feels like akanasa plus money pa tia, then we're done good. Niposa wa open arms. If you see that, she needs money mother. Okay, let me give you my childhood story. Childhood. I was born when there was non-doodies. Doodies came just recently, around 5, 6 years ago. People used to ride by school. Ya, ya, so people would carry their girlfriends on those bikes. But you know those bikes don't have engines. So that guy uses his technology to climb even the mountain. So, a girl who's visiting at his back is riding. Kuna tuka muleima wepia una tuja ma na pandan muleima na choka. Una mulisa ni shukia na mi ya, wepa tu nia jue weni ma na ume jue, yae ni ma na ume ujue yaa ko strong. Si ba do tuwa na ride adia me choka me choka, ba do ume katu. Si na za tu mi ya kili, tu mi ya kili ujue tuja ma, we insist to wacha tu ni shukia tu tembe kidoga pa ni muleima. It also happens with money. You see somebody is really struggling. Struggling to make money kusababu, is struggle si ya ma na ume peke ya kutia una struggle. Si mutua na is a struggle, wone ujue ya ma na struggle, akupe pesa tu yo ya kusema, I want to give my boyfriend's money because I love her. But wone una struggle umuwachi umuwami. Ya, asante, just keep this please, you can you do that. Ya, that's understandable. As in, as in, ni kitu ene, si ni kitu untaona. E wunana na struggle kuhu give you that money. And maybe you guys are well off queen. If kasi si tu ko well off na e munya na struggle, e ondopati ene ata mimi I'll be willing to help. You see, like if my parents, my parents can offer to give me an amount, I can support him to start the business. You see, but asa kitu, lemi say kitu asana maybe to know gopa, ata the men, I'm sure one know gopa, like, you can start a business for someone like the man. And then things kata and as a business grow, maybe at some point yungu ketena, ni wewetena umu support to grow. Asa, grow I'm a change lifestyle. Ehe, anapigaluku. Alafu apuwache. Ehe, ananda kuna watoa klasi ake. And then anapuwacha apu, you see. I don't know wutati kusapotu witu. No, actually me neza support. But uko na iu woga. Uko na iu woga. Uko na iu woga. Uko na iu woga. Uko na iu woga. Uko na iu woga. Uko na iu woga. Uko na iu woga. Uko na iu woga. Uko na iu woga. Uko na iu woga. Nneza toambia to kavaata the same question nizaw na mdu na strago na kupi pesa umrudu siya. Ok, yes. Nneza mtsidia. But, you know, asa ntia punda ni matia kenawadez nizaka kusidia leo kesho niya nika ma misimtu. But if you're on a town that's nika ma it's a life-time thing kia second support you. A relationship is a two-way thing.  Kitu ni meku leza. Niku petaw sayi. One, I need that thumb other ni urudu siya. Can you do it? Niki ono ni itaji sana na mimi niko on a point that niko tu sawa. I can say unizatu miya kumaitaji ako because right now I'm ok. Ok, let me go back, leave boyfriend, girlfriend, think you don't go to and they kwa ma parents. Yes. Na juo at your age, ni ni past 18 years old. Nalabda kuna angina ni maenwa na itaji imu saada sana. Don't you think it reaches a point that mechoshia atawa zazi kwa omba omba, nitu kwa mzazi all the time na taka peace, na taka notion, na taka what else do you need, girls need ideas imu na yaka kwa makitmanini na taka make up, na taka uchoshia mzazi mzazi ase me.  Ok, for me I think wana choka because besides taking care of the children kwa kana pia maisha yao kwa kana vitu investment zawa na fanya and they need that money but you know when I don't ask like for my mum the money ataka kwa like na wiya na toa pipesa ehh oh ehh iyon ni ingin na ya ya ya ya they suspect kuna kitu inanda kwa wiya na toa pipesa ehh hehehe wiya na toa pipesa so sunona ataka kupatia but sikila time unashinda weimutisha pesa ataka shanga ataka wuyuna yae anijali ehh na kana mdogo ake hehehe that's interesting but I had not thought it towards that direction but sosa ni meju wa kwa was tiana pia wana wamba kuku block suspicions na pdaka kutuna wana pia wana boyfriend hehehe that's what I hope for today if you do think about this yaa na support kava ata kus sayata like mums by the way mums are very wana kwa nga worried kwanza for the girls ata ata the dads like umu kuja nyu banyu kwa nango ingi na ya bei yaa ili uli kuna sema luku eh ili luku na kwa like umu titu anguskuizi na apuji kuni wamba pesa but pia uta ikuna witu kakredits kuna point utu uto gopataku wombamsa zi isi liya kilasa mami kreditsina mami pisa mafuta zi nasi jinini but mza zi nim tu ata juwam titu angu wana like ah ii me pita ata nim nunu liya a na kujua ii me ii a na kujua ata kuna time umekosa bata sa wezi muambia bata yae ata kwangali atu na hajuwe wuna na kulete bata ya tiki la time anki mami anki dadia yae una kujua na ikuna po ah ii ii na fanyika most of the time because you know the girls are now balancing balancing between kwaomba parent ama kwaomba boyfriend boyfriend kwaomba parent ama kwaomba boyfriend but at this the only options because underline ni kwaomba regardless wuna omba kwa nanu so this what's bring us to our main point of today other things that girls can do wa tiki kwaomba other things but before we go to that there's this thing called peer pressure kwaume ona mtu ame va kuna wile mtu ame va so wepi wuna taka kwaivo so wuna nda wuki peana pressure tuwazena ii me ii kufa nikia maali labda roommate labda classmate labda friend to waka life ingine so wepi wuna taka kwaivo and not with your money with somebody's salesman orijokwanza if you like the peer pressure is real I can say that let's say when you get to Instagram you say ehh ato ame ngaro bingaluk and you're like and why not me when you can do that so you be like in a place that you want to do it but one thing you should have in mind is that you should learn to live by your own means yes cut your coat of clothing to your size ii presai jwa kupandagifi no actually ni tu ni ni kuji ni seime kuji control ama hiya kitu kaiyo like ukiana kitu umzuri and you know that actually for now maybe niki nda level ingine like now i mean school ii pesa kidoga na tumiwa is the rent is my mail is my everything see by the time da kwa na takangua e lufta to da kwa na jidanganya yo sasa ni like niki nda ku niki taka obviously uta ni uta ni bia ti nda ku amzazi ii uta ni bidi ni tafute another means ya ku i find so for me not to not to do that i have to ni ni alazi ma ni jue so i control myself like ah niya we badosi jafikon niki dogo tu ni konayo achani manage still siparari still na kavizuri na nisa wa tu atwezi toka apa before to onga e dem kitu ina sumbo wana ume sasa kuliko kila kitu say ima mena kukula fair kukula fair asana kabutu epe kukula fair why do you tisha fair in the first place suende tunna fair ya ku kama nanda kumitu na wana wana e tisha fair sa zingine hauna oh ya like sa zingine hauna uta mambe ni tu mi efe but kawukonayo unanda tu na iyo fair ya kuna hafa iku e refund like if you have it na you miss someone you need to go see someone it's ok for me kutumi efe ya yango na eza kuja amata iku yata surprise na eza kuja kukubizeta sa surprise sila zi mu wutumi efe surprise pia ni po asana ko wana ume surprise danger as ko wana ume atupendi surprises wana ume ah zitu pastu na kwa na plaza kuku plan kuku planu kikuja ni kutreat vizuri labda ume ni piga surprise nasi na bilenta kufidu kikuja so surprise waschana surprise kwa ni kuna iyo pesa na eza kuja iyo surprise still ni 12 the amount tender to buy the food ataka ni the treat we do we can cook and eat and maybe after we go for a walk it's ok na eza tumi efe sa ako siyanda kuji tege meya I'm not sure whether you're in a relationship because you're a teenager but na eza henda nafe ya yango ok yes na eza henda nafe ya yango kozai not see how one of standards na eza tumi efe ya ke because you can be talking here but acting different is a kind of na ya na danga ya apu kwa ni kote wa ki ora na danga ya asku danga ii but if it's you know a woman of standards na eza henda nafe ya ke but you know if you wanna see me so much but it's not practical na jwa na eza na practical kusababu kama ume na tumi ewa na ume na kula laik uli ku kuji e alaf ni me kutumi efe ya alafu na then the most annoying thing kenya ni me suma kwa yo Wally Estunji Men Association na kwa nga kwa thanks ni me pata na jitarisha ni me kuji niko kwanji ni me kuji niko karibu kufika na jwa eza ni kwa alafu lastly aki mama me kata na uli kuwa kwanji ya uli kuwa kwanji aksa mama me kupia ni kwanji ya ama history mama me metoka kwanji na jwa labda ni ni muku life you're still so young for kukuna fe me I can say it's practical kus I had a friend actually ume na ume this guy ukuna dei to like the girlfriend na me kuji akum tembele na na mama na nafe na kuruidi kuruidi lakali kuwa kwanji na na luki luske kitu na saema lakali kuja kum tembele ya akumambia lakana feel wende wa tembe katikatia ya the other weekend and then the guy was like sayi I'm unstable sayi sinata pesaya sisi kuenda ku travel somewhere and then the lady was like nana liku wamba pesaya ko ya the lady was like nana naku wamba pesaya ko because the lady is working the man mostly ame ame mostly na fanyanga maybe mjenga ama kazi zamukono ama guza struggle and the lady akuna salon na already akuna customers na na jwa padei kuna kitu obviously ana make so you see that is one in a million exactly ya we are also one in millions but that time tete wa stya na eni wana kula fea tuki manizatu apu na manizia apu wey mbona wa stya na wana kula fea nyi indium na representu wa stya na wahi republic but they are known for that mbona okay personalist jeku la fea wow we should clap for you you are known for never ever eating fea mwengina na I think wutua keza kula fea yako, niku sababu piha kwaishimu Anakwa natu wa nemutu iwi It's not a good habit either way Kukula fea ntabi ambaya gals Msu kule fea Including the name behind that camera Mambaya kula fea ishikabesa Msu kule fea Get your money Msu kule pesaya watu Mji wana tumia jashogaini kuta wata yo pesa People are struggling out here Msu kule pesaya watu Very nice If you are itching to say something If you are itching to say something I hope you understand what I'm saying Ok, kukula fea ntabi ambaya Ya gals is true, kukula fea ntabi ambaya But Kuna batu piya? Kukuna watu wana sumbuwa Like they are guys They are guys very stubborn Kukama uiwa kwa na pesa ina sumbuwa Actually, amasu jinta semata They are guys wana sumbuwa Niku tumia fea ukuje Niku tumia fea Mtu kawu uiwa kutamambia Nini tuma Na ufuliza na ufuliza ikatena Koseku reverse But it's bad Nibaya kukula Hasling is difficult Kuna walo wana chomu wana jua Sana wakifanya Kwanza watu nyu wana wuza Kwa barabara, kwa street VJS Na izo zingine Hasling ningu mu Kitu fea na sayama She's talking from both sides Kama na stragu lo si kula Nibaya kukula But kama kuna wana sumbuwa Siji pesa size gani na sumbuwa Ani kutumi aniku kutumi Kuna dida Kuna dida Kuna dida Iapisa yape na sumbuwa Nada sumbu wa Tama tansibuwa Kama tansibuwa Dili watia kwa tansibuwa Ailafu kuna mtu Apama Itwa seviya mulata Seviya haa, bila Mama sayama Tama kwa tansibuwa Kindunist Square Sh걸 forces back.More importantly we pray for them in what need to be done. Den quickly you're giving is enough. Yes, it will boost the amount for you. You get those money Jedom pulp. Isu sa mtu aizikowa, polenii watuamjengo lakini natiki ni watu mi e Like mtu aizikowa anenda amjengo Yada kutia like 300 in a day maybe Eh 300 anda fui ikuiau kwa eka the end of the month al-i-parent This 300 diwa atu mi e kuku provide ia So you should know the guy we all know the guys that we are dating So kama ba do stability aki kwa chi na ana struggle kuku... Katwukupia? Suntzwa ni kwa kupia? Uppri forces gauvo ame kupia Tata kwa mwa Lishi F.E. wa kama wajahat na nakaweko Now let's get to what the main question of today. Nm kwa kampo, muna wana bile watu wana struggle wangi na wana struggle kwa make the own man. Can you count what wana fanya campus, especially madam, to keep up their own life without begging man? Okay, personally for me in our school in KCA the school has like supporting, hey, it supports the children there. They are still there.  So just go. So the school management supports the students there whereby if you are not well off you get to do like projects in school like cleaning the school and the school pays you. You see with that you get to get some money to to sustain you. Yes, and also around school I've been seeing people selling sweets, selling chocolates, they're trying to hustle. You know in school there are so many people and there's a place we call the children. People chill there. They study over there before the lecture session. You see when you go around each table and say, hi, can you buy for me blah blah blah. People get to buy your stuff and you get some good money. And that good money sustains you. You also get another stock over and over. Una pacha pesa. So still as you remember there are things you can do, things people can do. Yes. List your experience with Kishi University, the post KCF. Actually, most ladies, we don't know if they are blended juice, they come on us, they are fellow students and then at the end of the day we are going to do it. Like if you want to buy something, you go and sell it for students. But the students don't like, they like looking good. So I'm going to say that everyone likes looking good. Una nuna mango, you go and sell, then the profit is yours. You can take another, then kidogo, kidogo maybe una patanga ane zali paka kibanda na eke mango. Zaka eni mtu ana enda shule. What actually most of the people ni moana wakuna boutik, suna pata mtu wakuna boutik. Like on weekends, kama pese lingia vizuri on that week, iyo wiki, anakuja kuchu kwa stocking in Nairobi then on Monday ni mtu kwa classes zaka vizuri and then ana zandi kwa dimtu. Una nana. Iya, like alianza tu na mi tumba, poli poli poli poli poli na mi fika stage ni sasa, akuna boutik. It's ni nizuri. Napia smokey zpene kwa biya shara ingine students wana fanya suna. Kusas smokey zpene, maia isa mosa. Bajia, iya tu kujisapot, it's... Sinuna kuna kazi zi yamba watu ana zafanya shule. But is it that people are lazy because very few of you do that? Like Kisi, she was... What church is ana wana fanya is waka zi? Maybe it's the capital. Capital, iya kwa nzisha. But maybe it's the amount. It's the balance time. Yeah, yeah, okay. What do you think of that? I think many people don't do that because when the capital for starting and also what we're giving them will be like I want to turn you on agi. One thing I shall say usi feel ashamed of your household. Ataka manini. It's a lady friend of mine, kuna church. She proudly studies herself as a mortician. Not what morticians do, people working in the mochet. Hini has only agi. To kwa pamoja evi. My name is so-and-so. I am a mortician. I work on dead people. She's proud cause And I'm a man like me. It's my duty. I know what I'm doing is I'm making apanajuliza for my child, she's on agi. So it's agi. But what I'm doing is I'm getting money and my name is on agi from what I become a man from what I'm feelin', the feeling of doing things with your own money. kwa kwa onmani yaa, aja kuhipeya treat with your friends nani pesayako it's a good feeling I want to challenge you guys is there a way starting with Yuka Wata that you have ever earned your own money at this age oh yes People who know me they know that I have like an online marketing for like clothes household items You are another just online seller like the big companies we have I'm not big, I'm still growing, I'm still trying to get an audience I'm saying you are like them, you have your own platform for selling We should host you for an entrepreneurship Tuesday one time, you tell us how you do it But you make your own money up to now Yes, I make some small cash How much like per month Okay it depends when corona strikes it was a little bit hard Cause people could say atuna pesa How much were you making before corona? I would make like in 11,000 and it was some good money for me Per month Like a week I could sell And I used to deliver in town You see, so here you seem to be to me unfair Come on, 11,000 in a week That's nice, that's good of you Have you ever earned your money Like not your boyfriends, not your mom's money Money earned from your own sweat Yeah What did you do? Actually we were two Tulians and our friend because the capital was Kedogo Tuliko atuna uza bajia iso chipona smokis Ilu kwa ina an visori Kwa mta ama shule? Mta tu Apa tu mta But shule, bados isa pata datka standing But niki pata, stay seated kufanya Cause already I did it, nana jua venye ineza ran You can't get out of it Nana jua kitu neza pata So nili it was a good business But so sayoku So you see you are all models At the age of 19 and 21 These girls have done something Kuna mstia na piya ko apu, ako anha 30s Na bado tu ne to mia saya Bado tu nia Ukotuna haki wo hiye haki wo hiye kwa text Ki wo hiye nifanya You know that it think it's a noise Cause if these girls, girls at this age can do Infact this is one of the reasons why I heard them I heard them all said Because they can do something with their lives Nasi it kitumbaya, vitumzuri, biasa, biasara Clean na, very clean It really, it really encourages But isi pesa me tumiyaku Treatum tu You tell me you know somebody You use this money to treat somebody Yes I can use my money to treat someone And I have Yes Yes Like my girls we go for girls Oh even girls I'm talking about a man A boy child Okay Milacha ku treat someone Milacha ku treat yama Uliyacha Nitaanza Oh utanza Nitaanza See me you don't have a lot of experiences Because Labda U treat umtu wa ku break Vilefia li kuwana sayama See that's why I stopped treating them Cause Nikawa treats We broke up I got another one Ah Did somebody always do that to you Hai See we break up and we move on Koni ni kesho You know my biggest surprise Is that she is 19 Oh you are not yet 19 You should be turning 19 I am turning 20 Oh you are turning 20 You are a teenager But already there is some heartbreak It's 21st century Oh so I should not be living Like when it was my time Because I should behave my third flow I should not treat my third flow As your second flow Cause you guys are not second flow of life Every you are talking about that treatment You think that has money to treat somebody I never did You don't do that I never did Can you do please Ya I can Oh Ya for me I can You are the person who told us that You can do that to somebody And then it turns out when They do that That's what you don't like What somebody did to converter The thing is that the moment you choose to love The moment you choose Kuengia in a relationship You expecting How Jim tachana sangapi Lini What so At this time that you are together You just share the romance Everything The being together Ataka one day Me achana there will be memories As in we should just learn to move on Actually I'll take that as your parting shot Is that your parting shot Do you have anything else to say Pating shot tu na maliza Kitu na zambia Especially madam Your age around your age set Before I say something about Our age to Kitu ni I as in I also think that mums Wana kuangarol models to their girls The moment you are a mom And then Mito toa me groku wana The way you hustle and you struggle And evo evo evo Your daughter Hatapenda kuenda against it Hatapata your energy If my mom Did it Like maybe una pata A long time was as in Mostly utapata Mza zata kumbe Ata nili fika kilaze it ni kata Ata nili fika suji kilaze Ni kata And say If you look at your mom She's something She's something you can be Proud of and tell people That's my mom Yes So mums are role models So mums we should Salute Yeah And jiaze tu piya lazima toa Thank you Thank you for diverting it Just talk to mums Umere onga na mums Wacha eku evo akabata onga na Na waschana Your parting shot I can tell the girls Kujitome Kujitome is nice When you get your own money You'll feel better Than being Given money by people Kuomba Once ni mizuri Laki ni kuomba womba ni baia So jitome too Kus you'll earn a lot of respect to that People will be saying Hey that girl Yeah That one So what was jitome? What was jitome? Yes Kavata amesema If you amesema Salute the mums Let's give them respect And if you are a mom Out there Be a good example to your daughter So that they can be following you I'm proud of these two young girls Because they are doing something in their life They are not onbaomba I may be annoying to somebody Out there For calling you onbaomba Because you live on hand Literally from your parents And your boyfriends When you are of age you can make your own money So you should treat it positively As I wake up call that Going forward You should do something with your life That has been When the morning And the topic has been Kujitoma ku jiteter So I think going forward Nanda ku jiteter