Thank you again for staying with us. You're watching OI 254. We are looking into the health sector. So much has been said about it and so much is happening. We are losing our doctors to COVID-19, who is to blame. The parliament has set the stage on things are not okay. Are we doing well as a nation? Talk to us to all our social media platforms, like 254 Channel on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Before we went on break, we're speaking about the health commission and the people who should be in the health sector. Not one kind of like bitches has been trying to put it here. So, Sarah, you're trying to say something about the commission. Yeah, and we have correct Hillary, right? Healthcare workers dying. Okay. Not only doctors. And you see when you have a diversified health commission, then we have good good representation and then their views will be well catered for. Then also another thing is that you see everyone who goes to medical school, whether they're going to take nursing, we're going to study clinical officer, you are going to, you become a doctor automatically. So, no, that is the Kenyan. And this just a pharmacist. So this is a doctor to you. So unless these things are well elaborated to the common Kenyan, then we shall understand who are in those areas. And on what she said, the papers or the media always say, doctor, this and this, doctor, this and this. We don't know if she's a nurse or a clinical officer or she's a pharmacist. So we need to get clear information so that you can help the public. And the other thing is that when it comes to the cry of the medical workers, I love how TSC always presents itself, not TSC not present itself. When it states that we are going to have, let me say, a strike. Yes, we are going to have a strike because the CBA that we signed has not been agreed upon. The number of teachers that we are supposed to be given, we are not given. The classrooms, we don't have. They state the reasons to why they are on strike. And after their strike, when they sit down, at least 70% of their demands are well met. Because their demands are well elaborated when they are on strike. But when doctors are on strike or the health workers are on strike, I always fail to understand why are they striking, why are they on the streets. Because sincerely speaking, when you walk to these government hospitals, the level 4 hospitals, the level 1s, all the hospitals, they are pathetic.  A hospital that was built in 1952, like Montgomery County Hospital. It is still the same way to us. There's no refurbishment. There's no upgrade. There's nothing. When you go there, you are sick.  Because of the environment itself. So when these people go on strike, what are their demands? And when they sit down for negotiations, are their demands met? So when you state clearly your demands, then everyone will understand you. Now, when you talk of the oversight thing, she mentioned about KEMSA. This thing, when you sit down and look into it, the people who are doing the tendering of, let me say COVID millionaires, COVID-19 millionaires, who are doing those tendering, they register their companies in January. They were aware of all this thing. So I can tell you the truth. The doctors were aware of COVID that is coming. The government was aware. And I remember one former senator, Dr. Bonnie Halwale, said on one of the TV shows that COVID was discovered and it is something that was raised. Okay? In the year, let me say early 2019, whereby it was discovered and they say this thing will be a problem to the nation. So all the governments were aware of this pandemic. It's not that they were not aware. Okay? They were aware. The only thing or the only problem that has been there is the management. And when I mentioned over the committees in parliament, the public investment committee, budget and the appropriation committee, the public accounts committee that is being chaired by Honorable Opion and I. Okay? Has failed in their mandate. Right now, the parliament should be carrying out proceedings. The committees should be carrying out their proceedings in questioning. Okay? The money that the country has been given from the donors. The COVID money, the country has received almost like 4 billion or 87 million. Actually, that's right that you put it COVID money. COVID money that the country has received for the donors. And remember there was a kitty that was said to be given to the doctors? You mentioned something earlier on. About cessation, about the curfew. And let me say cessation and the curfew. I raised it here when we were discussing something to do with the schools. Okay? I raised it here. And I will still raise it. We were going on curfew and cessation of movement for the country to ensure that health facilities are well equipped to manage the pandemic. We are going on cessation and curfew things to carry out the census and mapping on where COVID might strike people most. Okay? But right now, we are in this situation just because of failure of somebody doing their work properly. And that includes the health worker, okay? The government itself and the parliamentarians, the parliament, the public health, the parliamentary health committee that is being chaired by the human rep of Muranga, Sabina Chege, okay? Being chaired by the parliamentarian, human rep, Muranga, Sabina Chege. So if everything is done in the best way, then we shall receive the best results. But when we ignore things and do them in accordance to what we think and not how we should manage them, then that's how we go wrong. All right. Another thing that I want to also highlight. Senator, in the interest of time, I would like us to look to a different thing so that we may wind up. Yes, I'm winding up on the same thing. All right. On the same thing to do with the health. Right now, they are raised concerned about the ICU bed capacities. This is the time the parliament, the parliamentary committee on health should be actually carrying out oversight on the same things. Why is it that we don't have these bed capacities up to now? Why is it that we don't have medical equipment in hospitals up to now? So if all of these things are well oversight in the parliament, then at least the public will be aware of, at least will be headed somewhere. But when monies are squandered and no question, no arrests, then we have a problem. All right. Now, which is actually what Senator has just begun on, the bed capacity when we went on the session of movement, the counties were supposed to provide these beds and we're having a report here by KMP due and this is the latest by October 20th of this year. Isolation bed capacity which assessed bed capacity was 7,644. The ICU beds were 319. Non-health facilities were 3,550. Total of these were 11,513. Projected county beds were 5,628. ICU were 173. And non-health facilities, the projection was 1,129. But counties on these is 6,930. So far, total bed capacity is 18,443. Yet a health care worker dies because of an ICU bed or a good facility to be treated on. So the 18,900 bed capacity nationwide. Yes. Now imagine we are 47 million Kenyans. So let's say this pandemic strikes three million people that need a health care facility. Do you think it's possible? It wouldn't. Right. After I'm saying it's even by the masses of God somehow, he has really protected Kenyans. That we should give credit to God. Even if the people don't believe in God, there is a God there who has protected Kenyans. Now, I don't believe lockdown was the solution to solve the pandemic. WHO wrote an article when Ebola strikes in West Africa. Lockdown, they even wrote an article and said lockdown is not the solution when it contains a pandemic because it's actually even aggravated even further. Because human beings, per se, are not meant to be confined in a place. By other measures like general hygiene, that is okay. Quarantineing the sick, quarantining healthy people. It's supposed to be quarantining those who are sick. So you find someone who is sick, you are solid. You don't isolate healthy people because other issues will crop up because of doing that. So how they handled it and even the planning. The only problem, and I argued this outweigh before, we were putting in measures because we saw China do the same or we saw India doing the same. Rider is when I can upload KMPD, they are trying to do research and trying to articulate based on facts what they have found out. And there is even a group of medics who came up with not an article, a journal where they wrote about the symptoms in Kenyan setting, the symptoms of COVID because you can be getting symptoms of COVID to an Italian or a Caucasian population now they are looking at which I upload. That is the way things are supposed to be done. So you look at your environment, you ask yourself the key questions, what should be done. So now what is happening is the health care system is being exposed.  You are not doing anything to improve the health care sector. Now they are being exposed. Because trust you, it's not an engineer who sits as a chief medical officer in the county, right? When you are a medical superintendent of a county referral hospital, right? It's not an engineer who sits there. It's a medical person who sits there, right? So when funds are brought to the institution, when procurements are done, and they say, what is your role? You see, before we blame even the governor and blame, look at someone like Chariting Gil. Chariting Gil was not even anywhere near a medic, right? But she brought health reforms in the ministry, right? Even when she was not in good terms with the president that time, she would say, you know what, if we don't allow these funds for HIV to happen, people are going to die. And the next thing things are being, because you need to articulate your issues. So what we are finding is that you have a whole medical superintendent in charge of a county referral. Why don't you go to the governor's camp there and tell him, if we don't improve this data, it's going to collapse on our healthcare workers, right? So when you're put in there as a CS, or you're put in there as a cast for healthcare, what do you do there? Are you just a flower girl just to be seen by people and just be over the social media? Is that your only role? But we realize that most individuals, and that's why I say leadership is a gift. Leaders are not made, leaders are born. You can be a whole medic and you have the technical knowledge, but you are not a leader. And that is where we need to distinguish. When people are being appointed as chief medical officer, when you are appointing people to be the permanent secretary, when you are appointing people to lead healthcare in itself, choose people who are born to be leaders. Because leaders, for me, according to me, leaders are never made. Leaders are born. So once the issue of leadership is what is stifling the whole healthcare system down, because an abnormal leader, a logical leader, a well-trained leader, who knows what it means to be leadership, by seeing 18,000 beds, that in a population of 47 million, that tells it is already a problem. So I'm expecting if you are the chief medical officer and you're doing a budget, you're not just doing a budget of recurrent expenditures just to pay people's salaries. And I agree with him, when healthcare workers say all they think is salaries. You see, I was telling somebody, right now the country is broke. How sustainable is the increment of salaries in another five years? Is it possible? Yet we have a country that is dependent on taxes. And to reach a point that instead of hiring more doctors or hiring more nurses, the government, based on their budget, they'll only sustain only those few and prevent hiring more because it's more expenditure. So we really need to reason and sit down and ask ourselves, apart from fighting for just salaries. Health reform is not only through salaries. I think we need to shift the mindset. Health reforms is whereby, does even the government have a system of preventive healthcare? Right now, the reason why I feel many healthcare workers are also being affected with the excavation is overload, workload, workload and fatigue. Why? Because maybe you're only four doctors in that case scenario, right? And you need to shift, because you see you're being exposed very frequently. And sometimes this condition, you need to be away for at least 14 days or so. But you find, because you're only four of you and the government can't even hire more people, what happens? Your exposure rate is increased. So ideally what the government should have done actually was that during this money that were given by W. H. O. and other agencies that gave them money, they would even have hired people on a temporary basis. So that instead of four doctors, it would be like 15. So that they're able to do in shifts. So if one soldier is asymptomatic, they can. Number two, when they were even procuring their PPEs, did even someone ask them, what is the exposure rate for each cadre? Because even the cleaner who cleans the isolation room is already exposed and that cleaner may need PPEs. So they would have calculated how long does a cleaner take within the isolation room to clean that room? So what kind of PPE should they wear? How long or what is the duration of a nurse attending a COVID patient? And the doctors exposure the same thing. Then they are able to say for each doctor, at least adequately, they need five PPEs based on one. So what I'm saying is that they should have gone to the level down to the end. That's what I'm telling you. One cadre cannot just be the one making the decision. You need economists. You need people on board. So that one person would have said one COVID patient actually consumes this number of PPEs that helps in proper burden because I could also be blaming individuals here that where did the money go? But then maybe they under-budgeted and then prices were high. And then even the quantity of PPEs that were even procured was less. Because we realize maybe one COVID patient is actually consuming 50 PPEs because of the number of individuals that is actually attending to that person. Remember, I have told you, even the cleaner, the one who is cleaning that room, is also exposed. The lab technician who is doing the test, this is not even a lab technician who is doing the test, is also exposed, isn't it?  So look at the different individuals being exposed, by that one COVID patient walking in into that facility, how many people have been. Even the watchman at the gate is already exposed because that person is walking into that hospital. That watchman is already exposed where they're going to be screened by those people who are living with PPEs. No, right? I was even shocked in one private institution. Apparently we have to hang up. Yeah, in one private institution, I even had a better mask than even the nurses who are attending patients there. So I asked myself, do we even ask ourselves the quality of the PPEs? Because healthcare workers were complaining about the quality of PPEs being procured. So do we procure to procure? It reaches to our level. We just do things for the sake of doing things. But do we do things with a better plan? And we have individuals who are able to see through the whole plan and ensure at the end of, when it's all sitting down, we'll all benefit because they forgot one thing. Even the MPs, I'm sorry to say, I think one was saying they need to be provided helicopter services. I say that is a foolish MP because that day there could be no jet fuel or even a pilot on that day. So what they should have done is sit down and say, we are all together in this. So how can we solve this problem for all of us to benefit? So you're not just helping healthcare workers, as you help healthcare workers, you're also helping yourself as you're helping the public. So as they say, my patting shot, when you do good, you do good to thyself. All right. Thank you so much, Sarah Zander, which is for coming apparently out of time, would have continued with this discussion. But James, we will end it there. Thank you so much for keeping us company. We'll be taking a short break. I'll be back again here with an interview. And we'll be looking into the career, building your career while still undertaking your course. Stay tuned. They have been my guest, which is Cairo Health Economist and Political Analyst. Sarah's a Political Analyst and an Auditor. Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen, for coming. And thank you for trying to articulate those ideas and putting things into perspective. See you on the other side after this break. Thank you so much for staying with us. If you're just tuned in, this is Y254. Y in the morning breakfast, show time for current affairs and politics as well. We are looking into the health sector, what has been going on. We have seen members of Parliament crying because of the policies of the predicament that is facing the mix in this country. Yet, they are the people who should be doing their best to ensure that we are safe. But we'll be getting into business in a bit in that situation. Very good morning. My name is Adreva Hilewi. I'm joined by Beaches Cairo Health Economist and a Political Analyst as well. And Sarah's a Political Analyst and Auditor. My sub-partisan side here is where we are as a nation. Good morning, Jen. Good morning. Good morning, Hilewi. Thank you. Thank you. All of it has been a while since we were last here together and I want to begin with you, Cyrus. Yes. I want to ask you, are you proud to be a Kenyan? I'm a Kenyan. We're born by everything. And I'm proud. I cannot shy of being a Kenyan. The only thing that I want or the only thing that I desire is things to be done in the right way. We need accountability. We need responsibility. These are the things that we need to have. And I always say accountability is not an option. It's a must. We have to be accountable for everything that we do. We have to be accountable in each and every little resources that we are given. Especially as a country, we have to win. All right. Mitris, Kenyans love you. No, Kenyan is my country. Born and bred in this country. I love my country. Personally, I love my country because I know it has a lot of potential. Only that we are just wasted by a few hooligans who stand to say they are leaders but in actual sense, they are just hooligans, thieves. But the country in itself has great potential. All I want to see in the near future is that we change the culture of Kenyans. We change our value system.  When you go to India, there's a certain culture. I think it's high time we as a country had a certain culture in how we govern ourselves, in how we treat each other as individuals. Because right now, Kenyans are bitter people. When you go to KOT, they are very bitter.  They have just been raped to the point now they are at a position where they are just bitter, grieving, angry and angered. So I look forward to a country where the government loves its people, leaders love their people, and leaders are sacrificial, not to be selfish and lovers of themselves but actually to be visionally and love the people themselves and also consider that they are part of the society. I just want to look into what she has just said. You see, leaders don't impose themselves on us. We have a ballot paper during the election day. The ballot paper has a number of people on it. You choose who will lead you.  On that ballot paper, we have each and every one with their own character. So the choices we make are the consequences that we suffer. But unfortunately it has happened. Everyone we voted in is wrong. If you make wrong choices, then you have consequences. They are consequences. The one we are having right now. So let us not complain. It has to be very intelligent. It is our responsibility. But how can... And responsibility starts with you and I. And that can only happen once first and foremost.    You should practice or exercise your mandate as a Kenyan citizen. In Australia, if you don't vote, it's a crime. I think such a rule, such a law should be introduced in the country. All right. But... Or else... Fair enough. Yeah, but you can put laws. But if the mindset of people has not changed, it will not benefit. So the reason why we choose, the leaders we choose is because of our mindset. I'll give you an example. If somebody has never been exposed to brush their teeth, for example, they may be thinking the way a smelly mouth smells is the norm of the day. So until you introduce to brushing of teeth and fresh breath, you'll never understand why a smelly mouth is bad. So until people... So what has we... Have we people not been exposed to? Hillary, I've already said this. I've already said this. Yes, not everyone is informed. Right? Not everyone is informed. But it is my responsibility, it is my responsibility, her responsibility, okay, to carry out what is called civic education to our people. Right. Let us, let us, let us engage our people through civic education. And we shall have good choices in the near future. Because we know... You're speaking of civic education and I know there's BBI going on. We know what's right. We know what's wrong. We are informed. There are people who are not informed. Let me go to my village, interior. Okay? There are people who are not informed. Right. So these people need civic education. They are still putting on tattered clothes. Okay? It's not that they can't accept the clothes. The problem is, it can't reach them. No matter where they are. What do they need? They need what is called civic education. So if we carry out civic education, when it comes to electoral laws, when it comes to taxation laws, when it comes to our own constitution, it has enlightened our people, okay? How to choose good leaders? How to have good leaders in place? How to have good governance? It has enlightened our people. All right. And then we shall have the good leadership that we have. So we're in agreement. We change our mindset. Change how we view things. And changing of mindset is for individual citizens to take initiative. Initiative to desire great things. To desire bigger things for the country. Not to look at mediocrity and upload and clap hands. Actually, when an MP does a mediocrity work, you should shout down at him. And even the next, they should not be even appointed being a leader again. But what we do, somebody like, what is this? This Machakos government creates a road for three months. And we're all over internet uploading. Then three months down the line, the road is not even functioning. We need to demand what is it? We need to demand the right services. We need to demand quality services. We need to demand excellent services. I have a feeling we'll continually digress here. You see, many guys have always cast gated and thrones stones and people of Mulembe, okay? Right. That they say we are not united. I always say we are united. We always know what we want, okay? When I go to the ballots, I don't need to vote just as the way let me say a kingpin has told me. And the best thing, we don't have a kingpin now. We don't vote for a suit. Where we find, we have all the parties represented, okay? All the parties represented. But when you go to central, where my beautiful friend comes from, okay? We have one party. You see, these are the problems that we have in this country. Let each and everyone practice their democratic right. I should not be coerced. That is a must. I vote for this party. When it does not fit my deal, when it does not fit my demands, let us be smart when it comes to election. All right. Now, speaking of leadership, when coronavirus hit the country, cessation of movement from Nairobi and other counties were put in place. And the directive was the county leadership will come up with a solution and provide more than, are they 300 beds? ICU beds and isolation. And then here we are as a nation. Doctors are dying. One lack of enough beds, ICU beds. And we have lost a good number of our doctors because of the working environment. That was, I don't know what has brought to this. But we went on cessation to enable us and counties to have beds. Then we hear there are no beds. What does that mean? Is it that to make war with Osana? Or the counties never attained those beds? We'll be looking into some of this. The report that has been provided by KMPDU. But before that, we want to listen into what happened in the, this special sitting by KMPDU and where Dr. Nicole was crying for what has been happening to the medics. If we could have that clip now. Before the National Assembly's Health Committee to seek a solution to challenges be deviling the health sector, the doctors cast getting the Ministry of Health for its alleged failure to protect medics from contracting COVID-19. That the doctors working in the COVID-19 facilities hired through the Ministry and Public Service Commission will put on a six-month contract. We should be ending in February. And their condition, as they speak, is that there is no cover. They've not been paid. And there's no assurance of compensation because the compensation that is going to be announced has excluded all these doctors on contract terms. The meeting would have overturned emotional after some members of parliament were moved to tears over the plight of Kenya's healthcare workers. It is very sad. When you go to KEMSA, because they have told us level one, level two and level three, actually there's nothing like a PPS. And when you go to KEMSA, I think the size of this building here is full of PPS. And medical staff are dying there because of lack of distance. What is wrong with this? What's wrong with this with us as Kenyans and as a government? I wish we were having this meeting in State House with the President chairing. He listens too, can make their contribution. That is, you remember my definition of the government? The President and the people he listens to. Those are the people we want to listen to this. I don't like this. Easy, easy. You can do that to your doctors and your health workers, it's not fair. It's not fair. Take it easy. We hear you much more. It's not fair. You know much more. It's painful, doctor. It's painful, doctor. All right. So that's the situation you're seeing members of parliament crying because of the situation of our doctors. I've heard and I've seen so many critics, especially on social media and of course, even in the dailies. He himself, Dr. Nikal, has been in the Ministry of Health. He has been the PS. He has been like there and now. People are like, you're not crying for the right reasons. But there's something he made, the comment he made that that meeting should have been done in status because the president he knows who he listens to. What do you make of this, Cyrus? In the meeting, when you tell me the meeting should have been held in the state house. I take it to be like somebody does not know their responsibility. What is the role of MP? Representation. Legislate, oversight. When we talk of representation, the people who voted for you, you are representing them in that house. They sent you to represent them. They have their needs in that constitution. So they need their needs to be tabled in parliament. Now, when you present them on the floor of the house, what you're doing is also representation. Then you do legislation coming up with the laws on the same bill or on the same items that these people have sent you to do. Then it comes to oversight. The parliament needs to oversight each and every organ of the government when it comes to judiciary, when it comes to executive, when it comes to even the public itself. It needs to oversight. And that's why some extent you follow parliament proceedings, you'll hear parliamentarians discuss how a baby was shot and killed and the family is in limbo. So this is the representation of what should be done by the parliament. Now, when a person has failed in their roles and says the president should come, this meeting should be held in parliament, I know in the state house, we are lying to Kenyans.  You are just rubber stumps to the executive. When the executive says this, you go by it. You don't question, you don't call for accountability. When the budget is brought on the floor of the table, who passes the budget? The parliamentarians. Dr. Nikal is not new to the system. He's in the public health committee because he has been the ministry of health and he has worked on various capacities as a civil servant. So when you come and cry or shed tears, just because you're emotional or just because somebody has just told you something emotional, then you shed tears or cook by tears. It does not add up. What we need is the responsibility. What we need is accountability. What we need is checks and balances that are in place, the budget that you pass through the budget and appropriation committee that still sits in the parliament, which was being chaired by Ishugwa, the Kiku UMP, the former chair. And then we have the public accounts committee. We have the public investment committee. These are some of the serious committees in parliament. Whereby the other committees, the agriculture committee, the judicial committee, the health committee should work closely with and should interrogate when it comes to matters on budget allocation because everything that we see here, every fold that we see here falls in the parliament. If we have better legislation, if we have better oversight rules that are played well by the parliamentarians, then the country will be safe. I want to borrow a leaf from the British parliament and I want to look and diverge into the issue of Brexit when it was being, how it was being handled. If you can remember very well, it was handled very well by the parliamentarians. It came to pass. It came through. Why? Because the parliamentarians did their role well. Look at the America itself. Why am I using these examples? Because we copy them in many things. And we have to because it's a world and you want to do what others do. Now, when you look at America, look at it right now. We have an issue there where Trump has decided not to concede defeat. But see, the things are going on slowly by slowly, the way they are supposed to go. When the parliamentarians, the Congress, questioned the sharing in of the chief justice, the person who died, then they were saying, no, this person should not be sown in at the moment. Let us finish the election, then we swear in another chief justice. So these things brought a quagmire. But the parliamentarians played their own role, though they are supposed to play. The problem with Kenya, not only Kenya, but Africa at large, okay? The problem with Kenya, not only Kenya, but Africa at large. We failed to play our roles when it comes to oversight. All right, let me hear from you, Beatrice. What do you make from the cries of the members of parliament and then the argument that there are no PPEs in yet? We know, KEMSA, there's a case going on. They procured more than they needed. And there's a question on that. So what do you make of this? First and foremost, I would say health care in itself is a dynamic market. It's not like where you sell bananas or where you sell apples. Because the one that you're selling apples, you can define a very good straight line. When it comes to health care, it's dynamic. It's very subjective. Health care is very subjective because it's dependent on an individual. In essence, when you are sick, the person who is sick can describe the level of pain. Nobody else can perceive. But if it's apples, I can say here, they are 10 apples. But when it comes to pain or how I feel about a condition, it's very, very much subjective. When you look at the health care sector in this country, there is a lot of issues. And the issues both come from the health care workers' side and also from the government side. And unless those both sides are addressed, there is no way I am seeing any health reforms in this country. Why am I saying that? When you look at the health care workers' side, you will look for a very long period of time when it comes to leadership position. Only one cadre is given leadership position. So I should say, when you only give one cadre throughout, what happens? They end up having blind spots. For example, you find maybe the CS, like Dr. Milu is the CS. Then you have the permanent director of medical science, another medical doctor. And then when you look at even the counties, all doctors, meaning even in that meeting in parliament, it was only doctors coming to represent their views. So in health care, we don't only have one cadre. We have nurses in the health care sector who are health care workers. We have dentists who are in the health care sector who are health care workers. We have pharmacists in the health care sector who are health care workers. We have lab technicians. We have sonographers. When you look at the array of the health care setting, you cannot have one cadre representing everything. And that is where I feel is the major problem. Major gap. I'll give you a reason. Kemsah was being headed by that doctor. What is he? He's a medical doctor. My ink. Yeah, Kemsah in itself. You should be having a pharmacist leading that institution because they're the ones who understand the drugs and procurement. But why do we have one cadre representing all aspect of leadership when it comes to health care sector? What you end up having is blind spots. And that is what most people don't want to address, whereby we put one cadre at a superior level and others at an inferior level. For me, my belief is this. Different cadres are gifted technically differently. There is what the doctor can address. There is what the nurse can address. There is what the pharmacist can address. There is what the dentist can address. All gifted different technically, but all important because you cannot exclude a doctor. You cannot exclude a pharmacist. You cannot exclude a dentist. So what I would request the government or people in the policymaking, you can have a CS. Preferably, I would prefer having an economist, even if they're political, but at least have an economical background heading that health care department. Then instead of having director of medical services who advises maybe the CS, why don't you have a health management team with all these cadres from around the table? Because the issues of one and the issues of they can come together and then give advice to the CS. Because we have a cast who is also still a medical doctor who sits in the cabinet of the president. So all of a sudden when you realize one cadre is the one in leadership position throughout, you'll end up having blinds. Because actually I told somebody maybe next time, let's have a PS who is a nurse. Maybe leadership would come through that direction because just because someone has a title does not guarantee leadership. That is the perspective we need to change from that. We can have a dentist who is a very good leader and lead in transforming health care. Then even having a medical doctor, you can have a nurse who is very good in leadership. You can have a clinic officer very good in leadership until we address those issues on the health care workers side. Because when doctors represent themselves alone, what happens to the clinic officers? What happens to the nurses? And what happens to even the lab technician? When media houses are writing articles, they just say doctors ask them, what about the other health care workers? I believe we should be writing health care workers are being affected by COVID. Health care workers are dying. Health care workers, you know, instead of using just one type, the health care system is not only doctors just form a portion of the health care system. It's white. The many people involved behind the scenes when it comes to the health care. So until we shift that mindset, and I'll give an example. In the UK, you find that the parliamentarian who is in charge, the minister who is in charge of health in the UK, they don't have a CS or what is it called? They don't have a director medical. What they do is that there's a chief medical officer. There's a chief pharmacist. There's a chief nurse. There's a chief dentist. There's a depending on the character. Then these ones come together and advise. So the chief nurse will say, this is what we're experiencing. The chief medical officer explains the same. The chief dentist and every other kind come together. And there's even chief researcher when it comes to healthcare and scientists. But in Kenya, we have only ballooned to one cadre that is one to lead. And you know, most of them, they only maybe they are talented in one aspect. So for a rich health reforms, all cadres must come together. It cannot be one cadre being at the forefront. So having said that, and that side of healthcare has been addressed, then when it comes to government, I'll ask this question. So every time a budget is done, every time money is provided, but where does the money go, right? Where does that money go? So in the issues of the county governments, the greatest issue they had is that Treasury had not released funds to the county governments. So there's no money to pay salaries, right? There's no money to not only even healthcare workers salaries, even county workers are not being salaries because I believe everybody should be paid irrespective whether you are a lawyer or whatever, but everybody should be paid. So it just tells you one critical thing that we are poor managers. We are poor. We have leaders who don't have the technical know-how on how to understand the budgets. All they are very much selfish to the point that they don't care that the funds that they are misusing or stealing is actually streaming down the line all the way to the public person. So until I'll conquer with my brother here, we have parliament that oversees. We have the Senate that oversees that it can call the president and ask him, you see like in the EU, they were calling Trump, address yourself. Why is this happening? We need a strong legislature. We need a strong judiciary system to counter-check that. Right now we should be, the people who are heading camps should be behind bars. And it's called remand. They should be in remand waiting for a case because it doesn't make sense. You procure all those equipment and PPEs, they are stored, they are stored somewhere. And then there is a doctor or a nurse somewhere dying out of COVID. So until we change that aspect where you are caught on the wrong as we wait for your case to be handled, remand, you are somewhere in remand before that issue is being addressed. Though I would say the healthcare workers have a right, whatever they are articulating, it's true. But this is already a sign that the country is broke. This is just a clear, clear sign that the country is broke. And why is it broke? Because people misappropriated funds and unfortunate thing is that even among the same healthcare workers they were part of the leadership, part of the system. Just like Dr. Nikal was trying to cry, he was part of the system. He has been part of the healthcare industry as a leader. But what do they do?  So as much as healthcare workers are crying and shouting that leadership should be changed, they should begin with themselves. They should actually question that doctor who was in cancer, who is one of their colleagues, they should be holding him accountable, right? Though it's supposed to be if you're a nurse and you find one of your leader nurse is doing the wrong thing, then you as members and colleagues should hold that person accountable. I hope that doctor who was heading in cancer is not a member of KMPDU because KMPDU should hold him accountable. She didn't take him to court because if he's a member of that and should even terminate his membership, that is the correct thing to do. But you cannot be castigating the government here, but one of your members is also doing the wrong thing on the other end, right? So we need to look into that. I want to concur with her from what she has raised. And she has raised very valid points. And from what I can sum up from my point, from where I'm seated is that she is now talking about having a diversified health commission. A diversified health commission whereby everyone is on board. A public person who is not a doctor is on board. Are you alluding to what is in the BBI proposal? Ah, you see what I'm saying. We are not discussing about the BBI thing. We are discussing about the facts on the ground. And I want to borrow a leave about the Judiciary Service Commission. Look at the Judiciary Service Commission. It has a member. He's not a lawyer. He's not a bad advocate. He's not any person who knows the law. But he's a member of the public, okay? Like Professor Mugenda. Does she know law? Has she gone to school to study law? No. But she's a member of JEC. We have other persons also in the same JEC. Now, if we have a health commission, look at also TAC. Nancy Masharo is not a teacher. She's never gone to school to teach. But she's the one heading Teacher Service Commission. So when you have diversified opinions from all angles, then the system itself will be well managed. But when we have only one type of persons, in that area, then the system will become blotted. All right. I want you to hold on that thought. We take a very short commercial break. When we come back, we will address that and then we look into the deaths that have been reported among medical officers. Of course, Kenyans have lost their lives, but now we are looking into health sector. We take a very short break. Please stay with us.


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It's It's worth it Michelle Chris Terry Amy tiny hands Baker Laurie Michael from Michael Favs works Bernice Tyra Corey that's off-road everything Jeff Carol Tom Davis Ingrid. I saw your sign Great job. I Got something in the works I'm busy though Kristy Tasha Jeff I hit puberty Tona Kevin and Penny All right, and I got a couple over here from Facebook cuz we're trying to try now Today so let us know how the quality is, you know, we tried this a while back. Yeah, it wasn't so great We're trying it again, and we're gonna tell you about that But I have a couple people Christine and Becky Becky says her P2 just arrived You're gonna be excited. I'm excited for you. Good luck. It's a good. It's a good machine Dina Keisha Kristy So maybe and Keisha co2 just arrived today. Wow, but you guys get lasers It's a thousand degrees in here again. What is with this little room? Because our little hot box. Yes, I think they move the heater closer to this wall Yeah, so our friends our t-shirt folks over here to the to the I guess left of us This is the front of the building Have these giant heaters to dry the ink for their t-shirt printing and I feel like yes Yes, yeah Anyway, we're in this little tiny like hot box room in the winter. It's great For hot box and paint. All right. What are we doing today? You guys want to see what we're doing? So a couple weeks ago. I promised that we would have some What all season welcome signs some more like generic welcome signs because what we have found this weekend What we found at the craft shows is that people always want to start with like something they can use most of the Year, I don't want to go with one season. I want something I could use most of the year So any of our generic signs are are great and I don't generic really isn't the word but all season welcome signs Are a great starter and we don't have a ton of those so because we're so excited to do all the different seasons So I promise that we would use some basic patterns and we have a couple Now my printer started running out of ink, so they aren't gonna be pink and purple Some of you might want them to be but they're thinking about hey, what can I do for your color scheme? There we go, so what you can see here this one is subway tiles And this one is a square pattern. This one's a little can you go overhead? I can show them a little bit Here's a good a good square pattern. You see that and then here's the subway tile pattern So we're gonna do we're gonna do these today. I have a bunch more I've already got a gear just didn't get them all ready and maybe that's what we're doing tonight. Oh Yes, so if you are a top tier patron and you're gonna join us on the Adobe Illustrator class tonight You got some ideas like two of these well these Just like make one with a pattern. Yeah. Yeah, I had to make a pattern give it a frame I have a few more patterns that I wanted to do. Let's see. What else did I have? of course, I want to do like the What is it the hexagon basically it's like the beehive like the honey honeycomb pattern And you could do that in the honey honey bee or bee colors, you know the black and red I mean the black and yellow colors kind of be as you mess away. Yeah, I'm just some hornets or something Anyway, what else I have I had some flowers Yeah, some more chevron patterns. I've got like six of them picked out So I'm really excited about them because I've been wanting these for a long time And we have a bunch of hellos and welcomes to test out to yeah, you can't really see that on camera go overhead I don't know if you guys happen to see these I went and grabbed these and you can do this too because this is I don't think they I'm not even sure if any of these were The pro version, but I just grabbed these from Canva. These are not fonts where we've typed out the word welcome I just went out to Canva typed in welcome grabbed them brought them down Garrett made them into SVGs for me. So here's a See if I can move this one Here's a cute little hello and another this one's my favorite right here This hello is my favorite now. This one was a little tricky. It didn't come in as an SVG Garrett had to make it an SVG But it's a really cute one.  So we can just throw them on here We are also looking for something that we'd be able to do where people could customize their signs a little bit on the spot So this is where we I think we can have different welcomes that we can do and on the spot. Mm-hmm. Good one. Yeah We're also looking for some taking goes. So these would be great to shrink Down to like the 10 inch and they're only like what four pieces to paint Those would be good for like 10 inch taking quick quick Yeah, maybe we do these so we're gonna be You guys are any give and go how many of you are on these coasts But we are gonna be in Fredericksburg this weekend for a craft show and we're gonna do our first workshop at the craft show So that's something you've thought about reach out to the craft show coordinators and tell them Hey, I'd like to offer a workshop. They get a percentage of the profit. I think it was 10% And then we and they advertise for us and so I With us Yes in conjunction yes, yes, they advertise in addition to us But I think it's I'm kind of excited about it So if you want to come see us come do a workshop come hang out will be in Fredericksburg this week I had to do this in five easy steps But my point is I think this would be a great full-sized door around to do at a workshop That's easy and can be done in an hour because they're so oh So few pieces. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like a magician. Yeah, I feel like Alright, let me let me see what's happening in the chat. Do you know what your pink scheme is gonna be over there?   Yeah But I'm going to stay in mine, so I've got some other things in mind. Oh Chris says I love it. She says Minnesota makes dash Chris I Said both names to be sick Chris says her thunder arrives tomorrow Lot of new laser owners thunder and lightning You like meet my new friends So what are you guys gonna cut first? What are you making first? What did we make first? Can we start with like? Oh Ingrid said rodeo like paisley leather Like pattern would sell nice and teal and dark browns. Oh, yeah, we got the eighth inch I want to do layered layered bottoms and stuff Yes, Amy, this is gonna be super easy Yeah, you're painting your back. Well, Anita says she got her omtech Made today is the first time. Oh, she got her omtech in May today is the first time cutting on it. Congratulations. Good job Is that too much paint?  I'm gonna stay in the top part. Look at go overhead. Yes, can you guys see I? Just don't think you guys see how much they still can't see well here here. Let me just do it this way Here you go. Yeah, roll it off. Yes, what did you?  They'll come over here mess it up. My mother called the accidents Otherwise they'd be called Intentionals Here you go Sorry guys, it's just a lot of paint. Well, I just I wanted to show an example of what might happen I Have a customer how you handle it. Yep out there and they use too much paint. What what do you do? What do you do? I guess you just wipe it off You thin it out That way you only need one coat Okay, let me let me go up Diana says leave as usual but got my shirt on oh I'm glad you get your shirt on.  No shady slim shady. Yes. Is he back again? He's back again. Who is it? Who's been missing for the last couple weeks Candice? No London Times How about Jason Kelsey? Didn't we just talk to him? No, he's been missing Welcome back Jason. Well, we were just talking about you Jason yesterday Lois what's it out? Are we gonna offer the different styles of welcome and hello in the store? So customers can buy customized the rounds we can have them pre-cut But I can't sell the digital files because these are straight from Canva and I'm not Adjusting them in any way like if I I guess I could sell it with a round though Incorporated into design make it a score make it a cut. Yeah, I think you're safe then I can do it Our board is empty. I know I know look at our silly board back here. We had to railaged it For the craft show last weekend. We were at the biggest show of the year, which was our new for new show That happened to have some crazy weather suddenly it got super cold and It got super windy when we got there Saturday morning things were great felt nice Sunny it was just a nice day. It was a nice day. We're right there by the water. I was like this is gonna be a good This is gonna be a good time. I'm watching the ducks and Like by I see that was that maybe eight. Yep by 10 10 30 11 between 10 11 to drop like 20 degrees It got very cold some front moved in and we knew it was coming But I mean it really rolled in you could tell the temperature right over the water and it became super windy Actually our pegboard stands We know that we can the reason why we made them the height that we made them is so that we could zip tie them to the 10th So in case it is windy, they wouldn't blow over but at this time we did not have them I had them facing the wind like we knew it was right out because we didn't have any neighbors Yes, and that one on the confines of our tent But that one was like really facing the wind So it just became a complete sail and it came at me and I caught it. Yes. Luckily. I caught it a woman Would take where did this go? I need to finish doing this before? So I caught I caught it and we ended up Zip tying them to the to the tent But it just got it got crazy windy and it was kind of a crazy day after that because We then were right on the water and it felt like we were in the Arctic It just kept blowing in cold water cold. They're just the wind there are off the water. Yes Garrett came out Chapped lips on Sunday. Yeah, so his lips were all red and Yeah, I think they're windburned But the great thing about that was we weren't in the in like a park setting, so we were right next to a I guess it was a concrete platform for a picnic bench that was like Screwed down so it couldn't go anywhere and next to it was a little fire pit So it was like it's like a state park kind of thing or a county park. Yes It was a nice. It was a nice park. So it had a little we were in not under a shelter It just had a open picnic table area and the fire pit fire pit Like a grill one of those in the ground. Yes. Yes like a grill So that was nice. We were able to warm up a little bit. Yep. I made fire. I kept a fire going And we were able to use that picnic table and spread out. That was really great I wish I had that at every show.  I don't know if you guys have noticed, but everyone always says, oh, I have a dark colored door I need a light colored realm. So I have very few I make very few with a black backer anymore Because everybody wants them with a light backer So a white back. That's why I did this one in white With the stained or black overlay works great Anthony I have not forgotten your box video as a matter of fact We made boxes the other day and I was like, we should be filming this right now But Garrett and I had a little bit of a debate on how the boxes should be made So I was like, well, we can't film a video until we agree on how these boxes are best made different box theory Garrett wants to have the flaps and that just makes it harder. I want to have flaps at the corners and she wants Open-borners Well, I just put a little tape. I'm just shipping Maybe we could just show it your way in case you're shipping something more than glow forage boards for glow forage boards They I don't need the flaps Oh, he just said she made a QR sign that she learned from us. Oh great We got a comments on that this weekend Becky said already made a score in grave and cut test arrays. Nice job. Great. That's step one now. I'm gonna work on ornaments Jumping right in How do I change to add my business name? I don't know on Facebook. I'm not sure I'd have to look at that change What I think she wants to add her truck. She wants her trucker name up there is Garrett. What do you say? I think you I think you got to join as your trucker name Go log into your business and then find us Bernice got her t-shirt.   I have cut 15 quarter door hangers Yeah What do you guys think about those door corners anybody use those at the craft show yet because we took hours To the to the show for the first time on Saturday We displayed all the ones that we had up there Which is why this is part of the reason why this is so empty right now and that was the first thing sold I mean the first thing sold was a door corner and The third thing sold was a door corner and basically they all went in the morning on Saturday. They were gone before Probably one or two o'clock, maybe. Oh, yeah, they're the first thing sold out. Yeah, they went especially Especially all those Grinch ones those went really quick. The first thing sold. Yes was a Grinch, right? Yep, and then a Grinch and then I put a spell on you door peaker Which one peaking oh the Grinch peaking yeah Yeah, we sold that one because he's a little more He's a little more involved a few more layers the one with his hands over the top We sold that one for 35. We sold the others for 25 except for the boo. I think boo we sold for 15 I think you want me to find that You didn't see it anywhere I didn't see it anywhere I Just opened the fridge door and I stood there for a while. I didn't see it. It didn't call out to me Abby's here from Facebook Yeah, we're trying this Facebook thing. I think we're gonna move over to Facebook Notificate you guys your notifications aren't coming through because this week we're doing re-stream Remember we did this a while back and in the beginning so that I could stream on both YouTube and Facebook This is a good time to kind of talk about. Yeah, what we're doing. Let's talk about what's happening This is our last live On YouTube It is not exactly so We know for a while now. I think I've mentioned it before that every time we go live One we lose subscribers people hate seeing us live They hate our personalities They will not be coming to see us But mostly the going live hurts our algorithm It hurts our view time and why is that that's because a bunch of people log in and then they might watch for a bit And then they log back out so the way YouTube wants they want videos where someone logs in watches the whole video Logs out. That's why you're supposed to do it really quick. So are I gonna hair on me a really quick Intro and a really quick outro quick because you don't want them Dropping off early, you know, hey, here's the finished product gone. Yeah. Yeah, so With the live you're just jumping in you're watching for a bit I mean I do this to all the time and then you log back out But what that makes that makes Facebook think I mean that makes YouTube Think that you don't want to watch the content and it's just typical for a live So what we want to do is move our lives over to Facebook every day Every week on Tuesdays, we're gonna move over to Facebook and go live on Facebook Test cut Tuesday is gonna move to Facebook for the live videos And then we'll keep our YouTube videos on Fridays in YouTube as always But move those lives over to Facebook because it won't hurt us over there and I think we'll pick up a bunch of people That might just be scrolling through Facebook and then see us live. Yeah that and from fact you kind of used chat GPT to help us Give us an insight to what was happening. So thanks again Christian. Oh Yeah, I don't know what you did there. I'm not sure I was in the room for that I was asking a bunch of questions All right, should I stay in this gray or should I stay in this You're gonna put another color on that. Yes horrible Yes Okay, give me your two cents This is black. Yes, this is gray and black and white Let you do brown. All right, Sarah says we're gonna go regular old stain colors Oh brown and she's right off camera. She came in to get paint Herald or the t-shirt options I didn't get one send me an email Harold support at K&G make it calm I'll make sure you get one If you don't answer when I the initial registration for patreon asks you for your t-shirt size If I don't get a t-shirt size Then you don't end up getting a t-shirt because I won't know what size I send you we forget Well, it's not that you well. Yeah, I don't come back and ask again. Trust me I don't have time to come back and ask again, but people are really great about reaching out and saying hey I didn't get my t-shirt get it and don't feel bad to reach out. Yeah, I don't mind sending it at all We just forget so send me an email and I'll make sure you get it Especially during craft show season.  So We don't get right back to you Remind us. We don't mind We'll poke in the race. We'll hurt my feelings. Yeah, all right. This is a golden oak This is a water-based stain because it's a water-based stain. I don't even have to wipe it I just put it on And I think I'm gonna do both pieces Now pieces what all the same color? Yeah No, should I do this on another color? Let's see Now are you going just white on the back? Yes, like do I made it to the second coat? No, thanks. No, you sure? Do you need to do a second coat on yours? I'm sure that you do I'm my backer. Yes. Yeah, it's looking pretty good. I just checked on it Kind of looks like Yeah, we're taking our time today because no These are gonna Finish these that's the whole point of me doing these is one I told Garrett I wanted a quick cut you can also give me your opinion because I told Garrett these patterns are a little tight I think they should be bigger Like the subway title should be bigger and maybe those squares should be a little bigger a little bigger Yeah, that's what I think you guys can give me your opinion on that Where you had it going to dry around because it's so much paint on it I'm gonna go. Oh, yeah, it's overhead What do you think that looks pretty good and Do I do Welcome in black? No Do I do it in white can I do it in different colors? Does this need to be a lighter color? Maybe this needs to be like this So I can do this in black or do I need to do it in dark and make it white These will be super neutral if that's the case. Let me put a second coat on this Perry said he's already learned how not to put too much paint Wonder why Garrett has a hard time figuring it out. I was at a workshop last night. I told him the same thing I was like even though you think you want to put a thick coat Don't multiple thin coats or where you want to be That Perry said he is excited he already figured out how to not to put too much paint No one's half the battle the other half is not putting too much paint I'm getting ready to cut some today. I showed three people now and now people are wanting them What these new designs or something else did I miss something? Whoa, what's happening with all the hair are you a South Squash? Are you gonna make it anywhere future for me? I would go say something about I Don't know if I could say it No, you cannot but I don't know how to say it without saying the whole thing. It's hard It was something about what's gonna do you know who Gus is? Let's see Diana said I would cry if this was your first life. Why what am I missing here? Let me get down to the bottom. I miss so much stuff I'm gonna work my way back up Do we cut hair once it up we cut the backers on the p2? We can cut the backers on the p2, but we do not I think we have a big way Harold was it you that I just talked to today. I sent an email back For the p2 is still a desktop laser Just like it is for the omtech. They do have pass throughs if you're using I Think you could do it We should do a quick video on maybe how to use light burn and Registration marks and the pass through on the desktops Oh, yeah, we could do that on both the p2 and the omtech in the interim though There's a puzzle piece go look for my puzzle piece video It's a high round that we did with a puzzle piece. You could do the puzzle piece backer Signs like these are perfect for a puzzle piece backer because you'll hide it with that center banner Or you can for the p2 and you can get the conveyor belt system And you can just lay that round right on there and it will just convey It will feed it right on through automatically with your design What happened here those my fingers and your fingers I didn't touch yours I got two fingerprints on my guess. I did it, but it's just a centerpiece. It won't really matter. Oh Right bulldog hustle said and one of our patrons posted about these two I saw it at craft show this past weekend instead of door corners light switch corners Now will those work? I guess I mean are you thinking you would use like Can be in strips to stick them to the wall because I don't know how they'll swim on a fit on the light switch because that's at a Arch right unless I'm missing something I mean, I guess it depends.  What is happening? Tasha said she found the puzzle piece video yesterday She has an omtech polar and would love to see more videos on it. I know you guys I know that we haven't done a lot on the polar here lately it's because we have a partnership with x-tool and You know heads up. There's some more cool things coming So we just keep doing more videos for them because they just keep sending us things Yeah, there's just they just keep sending us cool things So they just send it so we can't wait to share some more cool ideas with you guys That's pretty cool. We should share that London says I tagged you in a tiktok for my flying monkeys We have to go look we'll have to go look About flying monkeys to be cut the backers on the p2. I think I answered that one Christine is here to cove it all of us grandson tested positive. He was for acting like the Tasmanian devil. I Don't know how because we were acting like we were zombies. I was feeling horrible. I told Kim. I'm not long for this world Yeah, he really thought he was done I'll tell you for a while there because his Chest hurt. He had that chest pain so bad so bad.  I'm doing as a hello That was a goodbye That's why you mess with my stuff. I'm sorry people can't see what you're doing. I Was just gonna put it out here. Yeah, so they can kind of see what you're doing I'm doing dots in the crosses the cross sections Was hitting the meaty spots. I think that's pretty dry Like a hello on mine and should I do mine maybe in this gray or should I stick with white? Oh yours is glued down now Yeah, mine's glued down I could do it in a teal. I could do it in a navy. I could do it in so many colors so many color options now I Would say teal.  You know what you should do? Ombre orange and maroon Yep, I could do that. I think I'm gonna do it in this story in gray cuz I like it Where did you I might steal your Weird oh here it's over here Yes, Christian wants to know if we go on if we go live on Facebook will it be available? After the fact Yes, I believe so Tanner was researching that. Yeah, because I think I see them all the time and it says I Yeah, like live it in it or something, but you can re-watch them. I'll confirm that Christian I know you're thinking to yourselves. Why aren't you using tape? And we can't even see what I'm doing Yeah, doing it off camera. Yeah, what are you talking about over here? You're breaking all the rules Jenny be good Sorry, I've got a pretty dry roller I didn't where'd your plate go for this door in gray. Oh, you didn't We didn't need plates where we were going Are we going to have our wrenches? I mean, we're the wrench crew. Of course you're gonna have wrenches Wrench crew yes, you will still get notified and It should still be pretty much the same and everything should be pretty much the same. It's just on a different platform Unless we just started a whole other channel Ingrid said Saturday hers did great She sold all and took 10 so she sold 10 of them. Oh great. I think that was the door corners. No, I think that was Was that the door corners or was that the light switch covers? Jennifer have full fingers here. Hey Jennifer Cori's on to I'm down. Oh cool. Lori says that they have an album for the lot for Gil's lives and you could do one title test cut Tuesday and all the lives will be there. That'd be good. Yeah, okay. Oh Yeah, I think that's even better All right, what's a better color scheme here this one's still a little boring Do you guys think I should do for hello here? Rich wants to know how the paint is coming along. He's missed a few episodes rich. Thank you for poking the beast. Yep. Thanks. Thanks rich I'm also wondering We can't we're now wavering on the packaging so We're looking We just have a lot of things in the works and with that packaging We can start sending them out But again, we'd have to make our own labels and they're not gonna be great And that's what we've been struggling with is the labels We can we do have them and we can make our own labels, but they'll just They'll be okay. Not great so Gare is thinking we might Package in pouches that way we will also want a UV printer. We can UV print on the pouches Now the hesitation with the pouches is that you can't stack Paints up on a shelf the pouches would have to go they can stand but you wouldn't be able to stack them So I don't know if that's the way we want to go You see We're an analysis paralysis somebody just needs to get us out of it, right?  What do you think should I do green? No, I Think you gotta do I don't know Something a little bit darker leave it alone Mandy would say leave it alone. I'll just leave it alone. How about that for today? This is this is fine Gets us done Garrett is still messing with his Pretty much pretty much just about what you guys what else is going on with you guys Helen what kind of a event stuff has been doing lately? You think fun any more fun concerts been to the football games you're going to see the Kansas City chief If you make it fall then you're defeating the all-season Idea, right? Yes, I suppose All right, what else is happening? All right Are these new designs available for purchase?  Yeah, right. I'll just take a picture after this and We didn't get unfinished photos. What is wrong with us, but we can fake it unfinished. Well, yeah, we're gonna Photoshop Helen said first off remember that douche McGooch Doucheerson event I was going to to make signs for well the guy changed the plans the night before Oh, but they did have Steve Aoki there for an hour and she was like five feet from him at one point. Oh, that's cool I'm sure you could get a picture Yeah, did you do the whole selfie thing? You just stand around Garrett what it got to do definitely. Yeah Turned around and taking a picture of himself Even if it's back That's how I got our picture with What was the name? Guy Fieri. Oh, yeah at first. Well, yeah, I guess that's all the picture we got with him Then he turned around and chit-chatted with us for a second.  Thanks for coming in. Bye. See you later. Yeah Don't talk to me anymore He had friends there. Yeah it was oh it was um That guy something was used to be on That history channel show about the fast cars something would He was there. It was his birthday. I knew who it was at the time. Yeah, cuz I was I was a little nerdy geeked out about that one Something Woods oh Yeah, uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Yeah Is that like synergy guys this is a tough one I guess to go that way Anyway, there you go So the chef was like nope.  Wow. Oh, wow.  Before we take it to a craft show so we do we have these things called z-racks out back that we hang them on if we're If they're out of season What is happening here what what is happening? If they're out of season so we have some leftover Valentine's Day some Easter's and things like that They go on z-racks in the warehouse that their own wheels and I can move them around It's like the clothing racks. You would see at a clothing store where you hang all the clothes up This has two bars a top and a bottom and we hang them on there It holds a bunch of them. It gets very heavy. The bar does swoop a little but it still holds them They've been doing great since we put last year's Christmas stuff on them in January or February something like that and they've been there all year and think they've been great And then if we are storing them in preparation take them to a craft show we do put them In wagons like you would have for them those canvas wagons We get the heavy-duty heavy-duty canvas wagons heavy-duty heavy-duty Canvas wagons we can put them in there and we store them we separate them well We now switched over to clear die-cut handle bags And we put the signs in one One to two signs either put them back to back or a single sign in the bags And then put the bags in the cart and that's worked out really great because the last two outdoor shows that we've had it's actually rained some and Just looks like a here go over him. It looks like a what Kim? Looks like an amazing welcome sign. Yeah, it does It's rained the last two shows so that the plastic bags have actually kept them a little bit dry So that's worked out. It's another Like fortunate Think about putting them in the bags Tiny raincoats. Yeah, they all have tiny raincoats, but I will tell you again. Make sure you sell your product in clear bags because As people walk around the show people will stop folks and they've said it more than once Oh, I stopped this lady up the way and she told me where you guys were I came to look for this sign or that sign So the clear bags definitely work We started with the paper bags, which were great and environmentally friendly and had nice handles They were nice bags, but you couldn't see the cognito.  Yeah There's the 18 18 was too too snug So they're 20 by something 20 inches wide by something tall. I don't exactly know What do you think about my ombre? Wow Kim Lance said she sold 27 door corners at her show 27 door corners that is good information. Yeah, I mean they really sold well for us too. They did great And it was a great option somebody looked at the one big Grinch and was like, uh, and then saw the door corner I was like, yes. Yeah, so we made another sale We also brought the 10 inches that we were doing for the Brewery events and stuff where we just basically shrunk them down to 10 inches when we sold out of door corners on Saturday I ended up bringing all the 10 inches on Sunday He came back by here in the morning and then I put all of those out and we sold quite a few of those too They didn't sell as well as the door corners because the door corners just flew off the shelves. I Think those are easily identifiable of what they were what they could be Christian that all right. There's 112 people out there peeping at us. Everybody hit that like button real quick It definitely helps us out on both platforms And which one do you think came out better mine? fire effect Well, give us your kids back. Give us your feedback on these patterns. Do you like these patterns? Yeah, do you think they're too busy? I will tell you on our hundred watt laser. These were 30 minute cuts This was a 30 minute cut and that was a 30 minute cut. I like them. No, I think I think the size works I think the size works The the size of the squares. Yeah, I'm not gonna say this often So let's make sure we get this on on video Maybe bigger is not better in this case You don't know you haven't seen it bigger yet. I think if you make it bigger, it'll be a faster cut time I'm really looking to for these bring the cut down cut time down the paint time down and We could knock out a bunch of these so if you sell all of your Holiday specific or seasonal to specific signs You always have these in your cart and you can hang these up and these will sell too We'll always have welcome. We'll always have welcome Ed says he likes Kim's pattern and Garrett's word. Oh, thanks. It's the fire Mine looks wild. It's got that tail coming off the W. It's got the flame effects feel like Mine mine's very uh, it gives me that renegade feel You know that show that was on UPN in the 90s or early 2000s Renegade was it Lorenzo Lamas? Yeah We were watching the intro to the fall guy because he loves the fall guy He was watching the intro that last night Fall guys why I thought I was gonna be a stuntman. Yeah, yeah up until like senior year in high school I was going to be a stuntman All right, do you want to wrap this thing? All right, I gotta go get some tacos You should go get some tacos and we will see you on Friday. Oh, it is a good one. This is a good one, right? It's good. We travel. Yeah, we go traveling we go traveling with our laser have laser will travel and we did


I've been keeping my eye out for these ever since they announced, like a couple of years ago, that they were bringing Hydrox back, that the Leaf Corporation was doing it. And this is the first time I've seen them in person. There's been a couple of times when I've traveled out of my way to go to a place that's on the official Hydrox websites distributors list. That list is garbage. I've never seen any Hydrox cookies at places where Hydrox says there are Hydrox cookies. I found these just by walking into a random store, a store I was already at. And I said, hey, I wonder if there are Hydrox cookies here. And there they were. They've supposedly gone back to the original formula from 100 years ago. And Hydrox came before Oreo, by the way. Oreo ripped off Hydrox in case you didn't know. That's the whole point. That's why this is so unique. They put real sugar and removed high fructose corn syrup and trans fats and, I don't know. I have to tell you though, there's nothing particularly unique about the way these taste. They're just a cheap cookie like anything else. Look at the actual ingredients list here. Here is the first ingredient, and chocolate is the last ingredient. So I don't know, I don't know what I expected. I guess anticipation was greater than the actual experience. So yeah, there you go, Hydrox is back. Don't get too excited though.


Hi everyone, I was just realizing we have an online retreat coming up here in early April. Looks like April 6th, Friday April 6th through the 8th, and the topic is going to be healing through relationships, transforming with the Holy Spirit's help from special relationships to holy relationships. So for those of you that are interested in knowing a little bit more about how this transformation takes place, and whether it's in the context of family relationships or a partnership, whether it's a significant other, or whether it's a business partnership, or a friendship, or living in a community, a spiritual community, or in your neighborhood, so on and so forth, what is the dynamic that's underneath the healing of relationships? So today I thought I would just pop open a Course in Miracles and use a section of the Course to go into this dynamic, because we all know that that relationships involve mirroring, and that this mirroring helps us get in touch with what is believed and what these thoughts are that have been generated from the ego. And these thoughts, we could call them judgments or attack thoughts, are what limits our experience of relationships. And when we learn to be accepting and open-minded and giving and loving from our heart, then these relationships become reflections of the divine love that is in us, and that wants to always shine through us, and can shine through us when we have raised the darkness to the light, and we've exposed all these ego judgments and attack thoughts. When we have exposed them and released them, then we are indeed free of them. So today I'm going to swing back to the back of a Course in Miracles to the manual for teachers, and we're going to go to the section that's numbered 17 in the manual for teachers, and the question at the top of the page says how do God's teachers deal with magic thoughts? Magic thoughts are our thoughts that are of the ego that still involve the belief that form is causative. These are basically wrong-minded thoughts, and as you advance in opening up to a function of being a miracle worker or teacher of God, then this is a very important topic. How do God's teachers deal with magic thoughts? So let's take a look at this section, because I think this can be very, very helpful for us. It says this is a crucial question for both teacher and pupil. If this issue is mishandled, the teacher of God has hurt himself and has also attacked his pupil. This strengthens fear and makes the magic seem quite real to both of them. How to deal with magic thus becomes a major lesson for the teacher of God to master. His first responsibility in this is not to attack it. If a magic thought arouses anger in any form, God's teacher can be sure that he is strengthening his own belief in sin and has condemned himself. He can be sure as well that he has asked for depression, pain, fear, and disaster to come to him. Let him remember then it is not this that he would teach, because it is not this that he would learn. So basically when you're in a situation that involves a perceived relationship, whether it's teacher pupil or your partner, your friend, your parent, your child, your neighbor, your co-worker, somebody that you've just met on the street, it doesn't really matter what the form of the relationship is. When these magic thoughts rise up into awareness, these are the ego's thoughts. And how you deal with these magic thoughts is, as we've just read, is a very central lesson. It's a major lesson for the teacher of God to master. So, being aware of these thoughts and not just reacting to them, I mean, these thoughts also bring with them an interpretation of the situation, an interpretation of the relationship.  So there has to be a mind training that's involved. It's starting to just see these thoughts and observe them, but not react to them, not identify with them, and not buy into the bait of any judgments or interpretations that are part of these thoughts. Okay, the second paragraph, there is, however, a temptation to respond to magic in a way that reinforces it. Nor is this always obvious. It can, in fact, be easily concealed beneath a wish to help. A wish to help. Okay, this is talking about how subtle these defense mechanisms can be. You have some thoughts of attack or suffering and lack, and you perceive that it's this person that's across from you that you're perceiving that is lacking and that is need of help. And so you may have a wish to be helpful, not realizing that these thoughts are arising in the mind to be released. And as long as you have this wish to help and you use this as a, like a defense, as a kind of a reaction to, oh, I see the problem is outside of me and I must now offer help. It is not going to be helpful in releasing these thoughts because they're not realized as magic thoughts. There seem to be as external problems or external people with problems or an external world with problems. So it goes on to say it is this double wish that makes the help of little value and must lead to undesired outcomes. Nor should it be forgotten that the outcome that results will always come to teacher and to pupil alike. How many times has it been emphasized that you give but to yourself and where could this be better shown than in the kinds of help the teacher of God gives to those who need his aid. Here is his gift most clearly given him for he will give only what he has chosen for himself. And in this gift is his judgment upon the Holy Son of God. So if you're going to offer miracles you have to be able to see the false is false. You have to be detached from attack thoughts. You have to actually to heal in mind. You have to see the impossibility of attack thoughts. They're always dualistic. They're always involved two or more. A victim, a victimizer. The ones who are taking advantage of and the ones who are being taken advantage of. You know the victims and the victimizers. This is this dualistic thought system of the ego and when you offer a gift of the spirit you're basically letting the spirit come through you overlooking the magic thoughts and offering what is really called for which is an answer to a call for love. So when you answer a call for love you answer with love and then this is clearly the gift that you give to yourself. When you offer love you are giving love to yourself. This is a reflection of of the workbook lesson all that I give is given to myself. And this is also your judgment upon the Holy Son of God. If the Holy Son of God is innocent perfectly deserving of love and of care and of kindness then that is the gift that you receive to yourself and then that's a mechanism of starting to see yourself not as a body not as a person not as a dream figure but as the Holy Son of God as the living Christ. So this is part of the conversion and we're looking at it today in the context of dealing with magic thoughts because this is something that you'll face day in day out seemingly for many years until you become so fully in your function of miracle working that that you transcend the whole belief in attack and therefore you transcend the attack thoughts. So let's continue on with the third paragraph. It is easiest to let error be corrected where it is most apparent and errors can be recognized by their results. A lesson truly taught can lead to nothing but release for teacher and pupil who have shared in one intent. Attack can only enter if perception of separate goals has entered and this must indeed have been the case if the result is anything but joy. The single aim of the teacher turns the divided goal of the pupil into one direction with the call for help becoming his one appeal. This then is easily responded to with just one answer and this answer will enter the teacher's mind unfailingly. From there it shines into his pupil's mind making it one with his. So basically if you have the same purpose with everything and everyone you're perceiving if you have a shared goal we could say a goal for the miracle or a goal for forgiveness or a goal to extend love. If you have that shared intent that shared purpose then the result will be joy and yet if there are different goals that are being offered or perceived this is what personality is about when you believe you're a person and you believe you have your own personal goals for your ambitions for the the world in general for your family or your partner or yourself as a person when there are these self-concept goals that are coming from the ego from the unconscious mind that's where the conflict arises because if you have personal goals you'll certainly have expectations and if you have expectations sometimes it will seem that those expectations are not met and it's easily then this next step is to project the fault or the blame for that onto your partner onto another person onto the government onto something in the world you know that's where this is heading so when you are willing to answer the call for love when you're willing to hold to this unified purpose of forgiveness then you will extend the love you will answer the call for love and and you will feel the peace and love and joy that comes from being in your function you'll be happy paragraph four perhaps it will be helpful to remember that no one can be angry at a fact it is always an interpretation that gives rise to negative emotions regardless of their seeming justification by what appears as facts so what you perceive as the world and behavior can seem to be a fact seems to be happening in front of your eyes in front of you you seem to see it perceive it hear it actually a fact is divine love a fact is christ a fact is god these are all facts these are all eternal and what we call perception it's just really images and appearances that are not facts at all all images involve interpretation and of course we need to learn to call on the holy spirit for his forgiven interpretation or a forgiven perception of the world because that's where we return to a fact of who we are as divine love so as we continue on with the third sense regardless too of the intensity of the anger that is aroused it may be merely slight irritation perhaps too mild to be even clearly recognized or it may also take the form of intense rage accompanied by thoughts of violence fantasy to apparently act it out it does not matter all of these reactions are the same they obscure the truth and this can never be a matter of degree either truth is apparent or it is not it cannot be partially recognized who is unaware of truth must look upon illusions so this the rest of this paragraph is clearly reminding me of the idea from the course that that those who fail to forgive must judge because they must justify their failure to forgive another way of saying that is those who fail to forgive must interpret in a personal way because they must justify their failure to accept atonement or true forgiveness to see the nothingness of images to see the impossibility of error that's what forgiveness will show them but as long as they are holding on to a sense of partial perception the belief that there's order of difficulties the belief that truth is a matter of degree those are all the same error you know it's another way it's perceived as the belief that there's hierarchy of illusions when actually there is no such thing all illusions are false so paragraph five jumps in with anger in response to perceived magic thoughts is a basic cause of fear consider what this reaction means and its centrality in the world's thought system becomes apparent a magic thought by its mere presence acknowledges a separation from god it states in the clearest form possible that the mind which believes it has separate will that can oppose the will of god also believes it can succeed that this can hardly be a fact is obvious yet that it can be believed as fact is equally obvious and herein lies the birthplace of guilt who usurps the place of god and takes it for himself now has a deadly quote enemy and he must stand alone in his protection and make himself a shield to keep him safe from fury that can never be abated and vengeance that can never be satisfied so at the very end there it's almost like the projection of error or the projection of the belief in sin the belief that you can oppose the will of god and the belief that you are separate from god that will produce a projection of an external enemy and this is where the whole idea of punishment comes in the idea that somehow you've gone against the will of god and now you're going to get punished by a vengeful god or by vengeful circumstances and all this comes from holding on to the belief in magic thoughts so this is why it's so important to expose the magic thoughts and then release them because without exposing and releasing the magic thoughts then the fear will remain in the mind and so will the guilt number six how can this unfair battle be resolved its ending is inevitable for its outcome must be death how then can one believe in one's defenses magic again must help forget the battle accept it as a fact and then forget it do not remember the impossible odds against you do not remember the immensity of the quote enemy and do not think about your frailty in comparison accept your separation but do not remember how it came about this is the unconscious mind pushing it out of awareness repressing it out of awareness believe that you have won it but do not retain the slightest memory of who your great quote opponent really is projecting your quote forgetting on to him it seems to you he has forgotten too so this is all the authority problem of believing you can create yourself you can create a world has nothing to do with god a world of time and distinct situations a world of separation and then forget that you made it up and then projected on to god as if god created for you and you're at the mercy now of god and the world it's really this is the subtleness of the ego of projecting the cause as if it's not in the mind as if it's not thoughts in the mind and seeing as if it's all external so this section we've been reading is basically pointing to us that god has really nothing to do with these magic thoughts these are all generated from the ego and ultimately if you take this deep enough you must give way to the present moment you must give way to a presence in the mind that simply is it has no past it has no future there are no future goals with it there are no ambitions with it it is a total let go and accepting yourself in this moment which is the gateway to eternity it is a leaving behind of all the thoughts of personhood all the memories of personhood both good and bad and all the future goals and ambitions of personhood both good or or devious it doesn't really matter the direction of the error as long as your mind is holding on to a belief in linear time future thoughts and past thoughts then it has given itself over to to magic it has given itself over to the belief that that it is stuck in a world in which there is no escape and when the mind concedes and feels like uh i give up it's just too complex there's too much guilt there's too much fear involved i won't be able to overcome that once you give into that then it simply becomes a matter of following ego distractions to distract away from the pain and the suffering from the boredom from the the status quo of the projected world you know from from being human and and kind of trying to just make your way through this world of time and space the best that you can when actually you're being called to forgive it to release it to drop it to drop the act to be transparent to be authentic but not to walk through an act based on a bunch of beliefs about false identity so i hope you have enjoyed this this has been a little foray into the dealing of forgiveness in the mind and we used this section in the manual for teachers how do god's teachers deal with magic thoughts you can see that that if you harbor them and you try to interpret and react to the magic thoughts as if they're real you won't help you be free but if you join with the holy spirit and you ask what is really being called for here and you really tap into that call for love and let that love in your heart shine through you will offer yourself and your brother a gift the mind is being used as the bringer of light as the light of the world and that's what cleanses the mind of this illusion of darkness it clears away the unconscious beliefs its separation and brings you into direct connection with your source with god so i hope you've enjoyed this it's been a nice little splash for me into a course of miracles and i love you dearly and next time you have any magic thoughts come up don't attack don't react just watch them beware of them hand them over and then let the holy spirit answer the call through your mind i love you


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