Is that Sydney over there? I can't see, I don't know, from here. Chair Weeks, it's 4.30 and we're ready to get started whenever you are. Thank you very much. With that, I will, since it is 4.30, I will call to order the December 14th, 2023 meeting of the Planning Commission and ask the recording secretary for roll call. Commissioner Carter. Here. Commissioner Cisco. Here. Commissioner Holton. Here. Commissioner Peterson is absent. Commissioner Sanders. Present. Vice Chair Duggan. Here. Chair Weeks. Here. Let the record reflect that all commissioners are present with the exception of Commissioner Peterson. Thank you. And before we start, I want to let everyone know that we are postponing item 9.1 to January 11th at the request of the applicant. If you are here to speak on that item, you may do so under our next item, or second to the next item, which is public comment. So with that, we will, we have no minutes for approval. So we'll move on to public comment. If you have a comment to make, please go to one of the podiums and state your name for the record and you'll have three minutes. And there is a button on the side of the podium if you want to either lower it or raise it. Can you hear me? Yes, please state your name for the record. Carmen Gonzalez. I'll be very brief. I thank the applicant actually for extending the hearing date to January 11th. I would ask that the same be done. I know you don't have authority for this, but there's an upcoming design review board meeting set for December 21st at 430 in these chambers. And I would hope that they'd do the same. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else who wants to speak? And once again, this would be your chance to make comments on the item that is being postponed until January 11th. So you can make your way to either of the podiums, east, west, right, left, whichever. Yes, you can hear me? Okay. Yes. Good afternoon. My name is Richard Boyd. I'm a retired physics professor. There are many reasons to oppose the tower proposed by Verizon or at least to oppose the Colgan Avenue location for it. And other people I know will speak about that. But let me focus on just one particular aspect of that. Verizon happily provided plots of the radio frequency radiation expected from their proposed antennas. Yes, if you could get a little closer to the microphone, it might be easier for people to hear you. These plots show that the expected RFR levels in the region of the apartments across the street from Colgan is between five and 100% of the Federal Communications Commission limit. They also indicate that they need a three decibel reduction. That's a factor of two in the RFR to bring their levels down to the FCC limit. So I'll assume the RFR limit at the apartments is one-tenth of the FCC limit. The FCC limit assumes any RFR level that increases the temperature of flesh by less than 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit in 30 minutes is safe. But what if you're exposed to the RFR limit for more than 30 minutes? The FCC never bothered to consider that, apparently. Just to demonstrate how absurd this limit is, suppose you're there 24-7 at the assumed RFR level of one-tenth of the FCC limit. Each half hour increases your temperature by 0.18 degrees Fahrenheit. In one day, your temperature will increase by 8.64 degrees Fahrenheit. That will take your body temperature to 107 and two, and you will not be feeling very good. There are caveats, of course. If you rotate it slowly as if you were on a barbecue spit, you could cut the rate of increase considerably. But the body's cooling mechanisms would take over however they would quickly wear out as your temperature rose. The point is in a week you'd be dead, and you might even be a Verizon customer. The Building Biology Institute has suggested different RFR limits from those of the FCC taking into account the medical effects that result from RFR and considering that people live in their homes or work in their offices for more than 30 minutes. They characterize limits 10,000 times lower than the FCC limit, still to be so high as to be of extreme concern. Perhaps Verizon should consider a different location. I urge you on the commission to return the proposal with that suggestion. Perhaps they would decide on their own to switch to another site. Cooking your potential customers is not a good business strategy. Thank you. Can you hear me? Yes, my name is Paul Andre Shabrak. I'm here to speak in opposition to the cell tower. I just want to point out that zoning ordinance section 20404060F, commercial telecommunications facilities, states that all major commercial telecommunications for facilities, other than government-owned ones, shall be prohibited in our zoning districts. Unfortunately, right next to this project is a high-density housing. And it's the intent of the zoning ordinance to protect residential areas from the effects of cell towers. In this case, what we have is one that's right next door. There's a high-density, multifamily housing development there. And this is obviously contrary to the intent of this section of the ordinance that I just quoted. The second issue is a safety issue. There's no fall zone. Cell towers fall due to documented dangers of irresponsible placement of cell towers. Local governments across the US have entered, have enacted zoning ordinance provisions requiring that cell towers are installed with an area around them that ensures that it should they fall, that it does not affect the health and safety of people nearby. This is not the case here. What we've given staff is a list of over 30 cell tower structural failures that can be found. In addition, cell towers often have fires simply because they don't comply with the National Electrical Code. This application does not have enough information for the city's inspectors to determine whether or not it meets the National Electrical Code. The fall, oh yeah, one more point. The FHA regulations state that a loan cannot be approved for the purchase of a home which is situated within the fall zone of a cell tower. As a result, there are cases across the country where the homeowner buys a house, a cell tower gets installed, then they try to sell the house. They can't because a potential buyer cannot obtain an FHA loan. And the last point I think will be made by others is that the requirement to establish a gap in service has not been provided. What you have is a very cursory drive-by test. What you really need is test data combined with drop-drop calls. The only gap in service you have just recently.  Thank you very much. My name is. Excuse me, if you want to lower the podium, there's a button right there that might be. My name is Nichelle Nassino DeLuca, and I live at Vintage Park. It's less than 500 feet. Where they want to build a cell tower is less than 500 feet from our apartments. There are 120 apartments, some are double occupancy. Some people, because it's 62 and up, some people don't even leave the property. They're there 24 hours a day except when they're off to the doctor. So they're going to be bombarded with whatever this cell tower puts out. And I want to acknowledge the previous speakers who asked for knowledge about this. I don't want to have knowledge about this. I want these cell towers far away where they don't affect anyone. There were four other neighbors who would have come to speak today, but they have COVID. We're a vulnerable community. And not just our community, there is a housing project next to us with probably somewhere around an equal number of apartments. And there's children there. And then up the block, there are homes where there's children that are going to be impacted by this.  And I guess aligning with my political view of a lot of things, it's sound for the corporation economically, but it's not sound for the tenants. And those of us who can't move, I was shocked. When we got the notice, it was also printed so tiny that I had to use a magnifying glass. And my eyes aren't that bad. But it was hard to really read. And we were given, I received it with like five days to respond, which I don't think is adequate notice. I just want to urge you, please, you're here to protect us. You're here to make laws that certainly affect business in positive ways. But there are people who have COPD, who have all kinds of illnesses, brain tumors, cancer, or whatever, who are going to be impacted by this without even knowing how and certainly not knowing why. I hope I'm not one of them. But I'm speaking on the behalf of all my neighbors. And there are a couple more here. I would love to have you come up. And even if you just say, please don't do this. So on my behalf and on behalf of the rest of my neighbors, please don't allow Verizon to do this. Thank you. Is there anybody else who'd like to speak? I'd like to speak. Can you say your name for the record, please? My name is Melody Stewart. And I'm really pleased to be speaking with planners since I have a master's in urban planning from New York University. So this is something that's very dear and near to my heart. But that's not my reason for being here today. My reason for being here is that I'm 80. And I live in the community directly across the street from the proposed cell tower. I had the amazing experience of actually speaking to the owner at ground zero the other day when I was going around getting signatures from people who wanted a little more time to look into this. And with all the expertise and the data information that we were able to give him, he was incredulous at the impact that his decision was going to have. Not that he's going to change his mind. He's a businessman first. But I found it really disheartening that he'd not been given any of the information about the power of this cell on its impact on people, not only on the other side, which is Costco, and all those related stores, but on our side of the street, which is, as the previous speaker spoke, it's all kinds of wonderful communities, including different ages, some more able than others to actually move if this thing happens. So I'm really proposed to this location. And I thought that it was required that there had to be some kind of a hole in coverage so your Ryzen phone didn't work very well before you could look at having a nearby tower and we've got great coverage with Ryzen. I also don't believe that Costco and the people in that neck of the woods had been given any information about this, either staff, management, or the customers who will be coming through there. I'm just shocked that this could be put in such a location. And finally, as a former planner myself, I really trust that you can look at this from a larger perspective and really see this is not the place for a tower like this. Nope, no fake pine tree will benefit this community. And I appreciate you're taking the time and the extended time I hear now to really explore this. And I thank everyone who's here for their interest in caring for themselves and our communities. Thanks. Thank you. Okay, just, you can hear me, yeah. Hi, good evening members of the Planning Commission. My name is Kim Schroeder and I'm a native resident of Santa Rosa. I'm here today to speak on behalf of the many residents who live close to the proposed cell tower at 244 Colgan Avenue and couldn't be here today, many of which are elderly. My dear friend, Mary Dahl, has spoken several times now at our city council meetings. She lives with a small cell tower close to her home in Rankin Valley. It's not even close to the magnitude of this proposed cell tower in power. But she actually had a Faraday cage installed in her bedroom by volunteers so she could sleep as the radio frequency radiation readings are extremely high throughout her home. How many decades did it take before the tobacco companies could no longer ignore the link between smoking and lung cancer? How many decades did it take before Monsanto was taken to court and lost due to roundups undeniable cancer causing chemicals? So much harm to thousands and thousands along the way due to no long-term testing. In August, 2021, the US Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit Court ruled that the Federal Communications Commission, the FCC's 2019 decision not to update the 1996 safety limits for human exposure to wireless radiation was arbitrary and capricious. The court found the FCC ignored numerous scientists and medical doctors who called on them to update limits and they failed to address impacts of long-term wireless exposure. The petitioners in the case filed 11,000 pages of evidence of harm from 5G and wireless. Why are they ignoring the court ruling and not taking precautions to protect public citizens? This proposed cell tower is 24 seven exposure to people's homes, they don't have a choice. There's no long-term safety testing but there's an undeniable risk to human health as evidenced by a voluminous body of sobering research. Most telecom companies warn their shareholders about potential legal liabilities due to alleged adverse health events from wireless devices and cell towers. Why don't they openly warn the public, including residents who live or work near proposed wireless facilities? As city planners, you can and must demand that Verizon demonstrate a service coverage gap as well as demonstrate that the proposed facility is the least intrusive means of addressing that gap if it exists. This facility will be too close to a location at which workers must put in daily hours and near people's homes. Verizon's coverage is likely very adequate already. Thank you. Thank you. Is there a next speaker? I wasn't sure that you were accepting the actually comments on the content of the matter so I'm gonna go ahead and give it a whirl. First off, to pair it with Ms. Schroeder indicated, there hasn't been established that there's a gap in coverage. If you look at attachment number four to this agenda that was going to be heard today, this proposed project would lie within a cluster of four other cells so there doesn't seem to be a need for that and by its placement, according to attachment number six, the safe emission standard is exceeded for the general population and mitigation is therefore required and that's what it says in attachment six. Well, you wouldn't need to have mitigation if you didn't place it there to begin with so that's probably the best response to cure that ill. Thirdly, the noise from a 30 kilowatt generator going 24 hours a day, seven days a week is not conducive to sleeping at night, just FYI. If we think about mitigation, we should think about places if there is a need for it where people aren't sleeping. Like a cemetery, a golf course, maybe even the county fairgrounds but I leave the imaginative solutions to yourselves. Then there's the question of appropriateness for the location. The height of 69 feet is indicated in the notification of a cell tower is out of character for the neighborhood and when we don't live in a forest of conifers, so even the design's off there as well and when the patina of the green fades we'll just have a shining Christmas tree, aluminum, shining 24 seven, again, it's just inappropriate and I would add a post script to my comments. Notification concerning this project was given during the week of Thanksgiving when people are either preoccupied with family festivities or they're out of town and this meeting as well as the next one that's slated for the design planning commission on this very project is during the week of Christmas. In my view, that strikes as a cynical gesture designed to avoid public scrutiny and it also smacks a bullying and I don't like bullies because the people who live on my street they're low and middle income. So I don't appreciate that. I think it's shameful and it flies in the face of the spirit of the sunshine acts. Thank you for your time. Next speaker. Hi, my name is Sydney Cox. I'm co-director of the EMF safety network and the steering committee of Safe Tech for Santa Rosa. There's a freight train heading directly towards us at 100 miles per hour.  We're getting faster and bigger and you can't stop us. I submitted an eight page report which was emailed to you. In it I included personal testimony of human harm from radio frequency radiation. I included evidence of microplastic toxins from fake pine tree needles that are gonna be used for the cell tower that will undoubtedly leech into the nearby Colgan Creek. I included the levels of RFR exposure that will exceed the maximum permissible exposure levels. They will be at multiple heights. So mitigation is required. But even with the 3 dB reduction in power the RF levels will still be too high to ensure public safety. Where is proof of safety beyond 30 minutes? There's a lack of ongoing monitoring for the MPE and will the city provide this? There is no detailed fire safety report. And future co-location, which means more wireless companies sharing the tower will be assured and encouraged. And the MPE, the maximum permissible exposure of RFR will obviously increase. And this is from your own staff report. Granting the permit will certainly constitute a nuisance. Well, you actually say it will not because if you approve it it will not. But I claim it will. Granting the permit will certainly constitute a nuisance or be injurious or detrimental to the public interest, health, safety, convenience or welfare or materially injurious to persons, property or improvements in the vicinity and zoning district in which the property is located. As of yesterday there were no Verizon coverage maps but by the evening they were posted by Verizon. And I'm here to say, cell companies are entitled to good coverage but not perfect coverage. There is legal precedent for this. Sometimes a more appropriate location may provide slightly less coverage but nonetheless, average coverage. In conclusion, my question is this. Verizon has over 20 macro towers in Santa Rosa and 20 small cell facilities. That's 40 telecom sites. How can they claim to have a gap in service? Thank you. Thank you. Is there anybody else who'd like to speak on this item? I have a question. I'm sorry. It's Melody Stewart again. I have a question. I'm sorry you've already had your three minutes. I'm asking if I can read the letter from my friend. No, I'm sorry. You could submit that letter for the record. It's been submitted. Thanks. Thank you. Then if you could go to the podiums, whoever is, we'll start with this gentleman up here. Is the microphone on? Is the microphone on? Yes. Hi, my name is Ed Nestinger. I'm the property owner at 244 Colgan Avenue. I am concerned in regards to the safety of the public. By no means do I want to create a problem for anybody in my community. But at the same time, we have to ask ourselves, are we willing to give up, thank you, are we willing to give up our Bluetooth, our Wi-Fi, our AirPods, our TVs, our OnStar, our microwave ovens, our remote controls, our fall alerts, our cameras, and our cell phones. So the funny thing is, I'm sitting here watching everybody complain about the potential issues. And here, to my right, is a lady holding her cell phone, right at her chest, without any regards to her own safety. The hypocrisy in this is pretty comical. All you folks in here have cell phones and all you folks have AirPods and all you folks have all these items that you live with daily, okay? So what I'm trying to say is, if you guys are all willing to take your cell phones and permanently shut them off and put them in this hat, I'll be willing to pull my approval for this project. Anybody? Let's not have the theatrics. What I'm getting at is, everybody's here to complain, but nobody wants to give up any of their privileges or any of their conveniences. Can you please, we have one speaker at a time. What I'm getting at is, I don't believe these people are properly informed on their day-to-day use and the consumption of what happens in their day-to-day lives. I think they're focused on one item and one item only. This is a great report. There's a lot of color in it. There's a lot of glamor in it, but I don't really realize, I don't think they really realize on the day-to-day use and what the impact is on their normal lives with every instrument and everything that they use all day long. Outside of that, I'm not sure what I can do for anybody. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Next speaker. Hi, my name is Jennifer Laporta with SafeTech for Santa Rosa. Shout out to Dylan Black Project. All right, so regarding Wi-Fi and cell phones, there's such a thing as cumulative exposure. The FCC guidelines are based on a mere 30 minutes of exposure to a cell phone. That's it folks, 30 minutes, not the exposures we're getting all day long. And by the way, most of us on SafeTech for Santa Rosa do not use Wi-Fi, we simply use an ethernet cable. There are alternatives to Wi-Fi and cell phones, such as landlines. All right, so I'm gonna talk about who I am. I'm a retired registered environmental health specialist with a Bachelor's of Science in Environmental Health. The main issue here is there is no gap in service for verizing, okay? The reason they're putting up these macro towers is for streaming. People are getting addicted to streaming. However, that is not a service that's essential, like cell phone and text in case of emergency. Our firefighters here know all about this. Also, our firefighters in the room might also know that there is a state law that exempts fire stations from having cell phone towers on top of them. Why is that? Because they were finding that firefighters were getting cognitively impaired from having those cell phone towers at their fire stations. You might see some at some fire stations, however, they are actually exempt from having them. Think about it, okay? This issue is like tobacco was in the 50s and 60s where smokers did not realize that in 20 or 30 years they would be dying from lung diseases like emphysema, okay?  Oh, they're trying to muddy the science when in fact there are thousands of peer-reviewed scientific studies that prove biological harm from EMFs or electromagnetic frequencies. If anybody's interested, I have my safe and sound pro meter right here showing that you have extremely high levels of EMFs in this room because yes, we are bathed in a toxic soup of EMFs. EMFs is our, it's pollution, okay? And we don't want this tower. We have, like Sydney said, we have 40 odd Verizon towers, and that's only Verizon. There's AT&T and everybody else who wants to piggyback and co-locate their antennas on the same pole once you get one pole up. And it's about to push me out of town, folks, because I'm picking up EMFs of my property from a half mile away. Thank you. You're welcome. Is there anybody else who'd like to speak on this item or speak in public comments? Okay, case, seeing no one. If you could please go to the podium, that would be great. Thank you for helping with that. Hi, my name's Marty Granucci. I can't read. Okay, we strongly object to propose location for the placement of Verizon Tower on 244 Colgate Avenue of Santa Rosa, California. Verizon is planning on placing the proposed tower in the dense area of the population and right across the street, about 50 feet from our apartment complex. My apartment complex is directly across the street from the proposed Verizon Tower, a living, vintage park senior apartment. Our complex is less than 50 feet from the proposed tower. There are many seniors there with poor health and radius and waves travel at 993.6 feet. The proposed site located at 244 Colgate, Santa Rosa has many nearby apartment buildings, including ours directly across the street. Residents, businesses, stores as well as entire shopping center just a few feet away. On the other side, okay, this means thousands and thousands of people will be affected by the additional electromagnetic field. Radiation from the proposed Verizon cell tower, which they're advertising 10 Gs on there now, on their commercials, not five Gs. Not only that, the towers are going to increase potentially unless we stop the runaway train. I assume they are installing five G cell tower. So five G needs more Jagger Hertz and therefore so much more stronger as well as having more complex EMF and RF radiation, which can be more harmful to dense urban areas. It's not possible to, to those of previous generations because of their complex, I can't right now. Yeah, okay, transmissions in highly focused by being, they very rapidly with time and movement. And so are unpredictable as the signals, levels and patterns interact as to closed loop system. Dr. Martin-Paul has much more to say about the damage caused to our bodies from EMF radiation, please look at this article. Okay, let's say, yeah, but like I said, I they're advertising 10 Gs now, not five Verizon is. So that's worse. Thank you. Are there any other speakers? Okay, then with that, I will go ahead and close the public comment portion on this item and bring it back to staff. And I have one question and that had to do with the design review board meeting and my assumption is that is being postponed also. Yes, Chair Weeks, the design review board item has already been noticed, so it will be on the agenda, but just like with tonight, the recommendation will be for continuance to a date certain after the Planning Commission takes action. Great, thank you. Okay, so it will be like we did today where it will be, the meeting will be called to order and the item would be postponed to a date later on. Can staff help me with this? Hold on a second, so would the recommendation be that they do the same type of? Yeah, if there are people there who are there to speak on the item, they could do the same as they are today and speak on non-agenda items. Otherwise, the meeting will be postponed to a future date and they would have an opportunity to speak at that date as well. Okay, so that's it, no more public comments, thank you. So the meeting will occur next week as scheduled and then it will operate like we did tonight if there are people in the public who wish to speak on the item, they will speak under the public comment, non-agenda matters. So you would have an opportunity to speak, but the item would not be acted upon and nothing would be decided at that meeting. It would be at a later meeting. So yeah, Chair Weeks, if I may. Yes. So with both of these items, they will be continued to date certain. So for this item, the recommendation for the commission is to continue it to a date certain of January 11th. And then for the design review board, it would be continued to a date certain of January 18th. So there will be no additional notices that go out because it is continued to a date certain, but I would recommend that if anybody here has any questions beyond this, they are more than welcome to reach out to Suzanne Hartman, who is the planner for this project. Her contact information was on the mailing, but for anybody in here, it's, I'm gonna give your phone number if that's okay.<PHONE_NUMBER>. And she can also be emailed at shartman at srcity.org. And her contact information was on the notice that was sent out and is also on the sign that is outside the site. Great, thank you very much. So with that, and thank you, I appreciate all your help in this. We'll move on to commission business. So our statement of purpose, the planning commission is charged with carrying out California planning and zoning laws in the city of Santa Rosa. Duties include implementing of plans, ordinances and policies relating to land use matters, assisting in writing and implementing the general plan and area plans, holding public hearings and acting on proposed changes to the zoning code, zoning map, general plan, tentative subdivision maps and undertaking special planning studies as needed. So with that, we'll move on to commissioner reports. Do we have any reports? Seeing none, do we have any public, are there any public comments on the non-existent commissioner reports? Okay, seeing none, we'll move on to department report. Ms. Jones. Yes, thank you, chair weeks, members of the commission. I will be brief, just a quick note that we do not have any items for the December 28th meeting, which is also right in between the holidays. So you guys will get a break for the holiday. So your next meeting will be the January 11th and we will be holding that meeting. And then my final note for tonight, just a quick note. I think most of the commission is aware that we had two members of our team move on. Recently, Amy Lyle, who is our supervising planner for advanced planning, left the city for another opportunity and Beatriz Guerrero-Ana also left for another opportunity. And unfortunately, we have had yet another person moving on from the city. So Sherri Meads, who's a senior planner here, has resigned and she's moving to a great opportunity at the city of Yuccaia. So we're super excited for her in that opportunity, but very sad to see her go. So we will be doing a recruitment for a planner coming up here shortly. So hopefully you'll be seeing a new face here soon. So are there any public comments on the primary report? Probably not. Statements of abstentions, are there any abstentions? Okay, then we have no consent items. We have no report items. Our one scheduled item is the scheduled, this is 9.1, public hearing Verizon Wireless Telecommunication Tower Conditional Use Permit 244 Colgan Avenue, PRJ 23-009. As previously stated, the applicant has requested that we continue this item to a date certain of January 11th, 2024. Is there anything else from staff? So could I ask one of my fellow commissioners to make a motion to continue this item to the date certain of January 11th, 2024? I'll make such a motion to continue the item to a date certain of January 11th, 2024. Thank you, and is there a second? Second. Thank you. So that was moved by Commissioner Duggan, seconded by Commissioner Sisko. If we could have a roll call vote, please. Commissioner Carter. Aye. Commissioner Sisko. Aye. Commissioner Holton. Aye. Commissioner Sanders. Aye. Vice Chair Duggan. Aye. Chair Weeks. Aye. So that passes with six ayes, one absence, and that's Commissioner Peterson. So with that, unless there's anything else from staff tonight, we will go ahead and adjourn this meeting until 2024. Thank you.


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I started with spiced marmalade and I am not doing any crazy blending technique here I just apply color with my blending tool all over all of those hearts in the first stencil Now I am also going to add a few watersplasses so that I can lift some of this ink and it is going to give a beautiful design on my hearts I am going to remove the stencil and I will place on top the second layer of the hearts again securing it with some purple tape just to make sure that it is not going to move on me and I will cover it up completely with picked raspberry. Again I will add some watersplasses just to do that effect with absolute love when it comes to the stress oxide inks I am going to remove the stencil and here is the pattern that I got Now it is really easy to turn this into a card. I went with a square card that is 4 ¼ by 4 ¼ I added some foam tape at the back of my panel and I am going to stick it on top you can stick it directly at the center or like me just a little bit offset to add some more interest on the card Now for the sentiment I am going to stamp it on one of the hearts that I have left over from the first card that I shared today and with black ink I am going to stamp inside adorio. I used a foam square at the back and I am going to stick that on top of my panel and to finish off my card I am just going to add a few gems here and there just to add some sparkle on a Valentine's Day card A really quick and easy design which makes it perfect to mass produce and let's move on to another quick and simple design this time I will be using another die set that has just been released it is called Ornate Love it comes with 3 dies of hearts with the word Love as well as Love You in a lovely font Now for my card today I will be using the letters that spell out Love but instead of the O I am going to use the heart On a scrap piece of paper these are the colors that I have been working with since the beginning of the video and I am creating a little blended area here with picked raspberry and spiced marmalade where I can place my dies on top and cut them out now that I have my cutouts ready I am going to use this piece of white cardstock and just arrange everything on top for the letters I am going with glue directly on top so everything is going to lay flat but you will see that for the heart I am going to use a foam square and I am going to pop it a little bit on top of my panel now I am also using a T ruler just to make sure that everything is nicely aligned and they are completely straight on top of my panel and I wanted the heart to overlap the letters that is why I have such a small panel so that you will see that as I stick down the heart it is going to go a little bit over the L and the V now to finish off my sentiment I will stamp just a word U from one of the sentiments included in the same stamp set that I have been using from the beginning and to make my life easy I just cut it out with my scissors to make sure that I have only the word U but if you don't like to cut out your stamps then just use some masking tape and do a little bit of masking finally I am going to add some sparkle on top of my heart and here are some close up photos on the last card for today and these were the cards for today I hope I have inspired you to create some simple cards with hearts for Valentine's Day using just a simple combo with a couple of vins that you have on your stash remember this is part of a blog hop so make sure to head over to my blog to learn all the details about the blog hop the giveaways and all the inspiration thank you all for watching and I'll see you all next time


This 2018 Ford F350 crew cab long box dual rear wheel is stock number 12271Z. We are here at Summit Automotive in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, you're new and used heavy duty truck headquarters. This 2018 Ford F350 has the 6.7 liter power stroke diesel engine. This truck has been fully safety and inspected by our service shop per the state of Wisconsin inspection process. It has a fresh oil and filter change. All the fluids have been checked and tapped off. And this truck is 100% ready to go, super clean inside and out. And that's just what we'll show you in this video. Oxford white is the color we shoot all of our videos in 1080p 60 frames per second. So if you have HD capabilities on your computer, tablet, smartphone or television, turn them on right now because it is your best way to check out the quality condition, options and styling of the truck before seeing it in person. And if you like the video and want to see more videos like it and see them every day, subscribe to our YouTube channel in the lower right hand part of the screen, click the bell notifications and you'll get updates on the videos we do each and every day here at Summit Automotive. So when it comes with some Phoenix USA wheel simulators, it has Michelin LT245 75R17 tires. These tires look like they have probably about, I'd say 60 to 70% of the tread left on them. Frame and underbody is exceptionally clean on this truck. Front fender is in great condition. I didn't see any dents or dings on there. Really nice paint. Headlight lenses are nice and clear. The front bumper, I didn't see any dents or dings on there and the lower valence is in excellent shape as well. You do get the front tow hooks. The hood is in very nice condition. You do get the cab lights up top. Passenger side front fender looks really good too. And the passenger side wheel simulator is in nice shape as well. Going down this side of the truck, take note of how clean the body is, how reflective and mirror-like that paint is. We take these HD videos so if you are far away or even if you're close by and just cannot make the trip down but you're still interested in purchasing the vehicle, you can see the truck, hear the truck, and of confidence in the vehicle that you're looking at before you even get here. So when you do get here, there's no surprises. Or if you get the truck shipped to you, you'll know exactly what you're getting before gets to you. Didn't see any dents or dings down the passenger side here. The dually tub is in excellent shape. You get the wheel simulators in back as well. I'm assuming those are steel wheels behind there. Back tires have about the same amount of tread as the front tires. And you can see just how clean that frame and underbody is. This one does have the camper package with the anti-sway bars there. I think all F350s and 450s have that package but always telling them what that is has all the remaining factory exhaust that hasn't been altered in any way, shape, or form. And lower rockers all look really good. I didn't see any corrosion on them. Comes with a nice set of Weston painted step bars. You do get the bed rail covers on all the forwards coming around to the back. Rear bumper is in great shape. No major dents or dings on there. It does have a full towing package which includes the receiver hitch four pin and seven pin wiring. And the tailgate is in really nice condition as well. Take note that it does have the backup camera. You also have the cargo cam up there by the cargo lights. This one does have a very nice spring and bed liner. This is a Linux spring and bed liner. You get the fifth wheel and goose neck prep package back here which also gives you the seven pin wiring in the bed. Tailgate shuts nice and solidly and as you go down the driver's side just as clean as that passenger side it does have the FX4 off-road suspension package which gives you all the skid plates underneath the truck. Back wheel simulators in nice condition for full disclosure and down the rest of the side of the truck is very, very clean. You do get the heated telescopic tow mirrors, directional signals, they telescope out like so. They also fold in like that. Inside the XL package gives you the gray vinyl interior. 40, 20, 40 split bench seating in the front. No rips, no tears on those seats there and excellent condition. Does have lumbar on the driver's side. The heavy duty rubber floors in here, auto headlamps, tilt, steering wheel, power windows, power locks and power mirrors. We'll hop inside, take a look at the ignition, the radio and everything that the interior has to offer and show you just how clean it is in here. You can see that this one has 17,055 miles on it. Instrument cluster is very clean. 12.8 is the miles per gallon and you got your trips and all that different stuff on here. Compass display as well. Steering wheel is in excellent shape. Cruise controls and information center controls on the left, Bluetooth and audio controls on the right. This one does have the six speed automatic transmission with the optional tap shift. And this one has the AM FM radio. So you just get AM FM on there. You can check out your different cameras right here. There's your cargo cam and you can zoom in on that as well. I think the truck has to be on for that to work though. So that'll just go to the cargo cam. If you press that when the truck's on, you put it in the reverse and then it'll actually go to the backup camera. So the AM FM radio, this one has sync so you can connect your Bluetooth cell phone to it.  It does have a CD player and a USB jack down there. You get two cup holders on the floor, two cup holders in the center console, passenger side format and seat are in excellent condition. Two 12 volt power points. Smells very clean inside this truck. I don't think it's ever been smoked in and the headliner is in fantastic condition as well. You do get map lights up there. We'll take a quick look at the back seats and then we'll start it up and check out under the hood. The back seats are just as clean as the front seats. No rips, no tears back here. It does have the latch, child safety system, fixed glass rear window. Very nice and clean back here. Get almost the completely flat floor with that rubber floor back here as well. And very, very nice and clean. Once again, you do have side curtain airbags on the seats, child safety locks on the back doors and the bottoms of the doors are in very nice condition. We'll start it up and take a look under the hood. Starts right up. No check engine lights or anything like that. I would personally like to thank you for checking out the video today and hopefully from this HD video you will be able to verify the quality and condition and options of this truck before making a buying decision. Under the hood, you have the 6.7 liter power stroke diesel. This engine has been fully safety and inspected as well as the rest of the truck. By our service shop has a fresh oil and filter change. All the fluids have been checked and topped off. And this truck's 100% ready to go. Very, very nice.  You do have your emission sticker right here. And like I said, this truck is 100% ready to go. I would highly recommend this truck from a quality and condition standpoint. I couldn't think of a single reason why if you're looking for a crew cab, long box, duly, F350 power stroke diesel in white XL package, this is the one. Don't hesitate, our stuff moves really fast. 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In this video we'll be looking at the instantaneous values and what we mean by that is we can calculate at any given point along this waveform what the value of current or voltage will be. So that's a very simple way of doing this is we can use the formula. The sine theta times the peak value equals the instantaneous value. So again using this formula here we can calculate at any given point along this waveform. It doesn't matter if it's 45 degrees 45.73692.154329 or you got any value along any point of this waveform we can calculate out exactly what that is. Let's take a look at examples. So let's say I have a peak value of current in this case of 50 amps. I want to figure out what the value of current is at 25 degrees into the waveform. I would just go the sine of 25 degrees times the 50 amps equals 21.1 amps. So we could calculate out where that is. Now also we could use this formula sine theta times peak equals instantaneous to figure out at what angles certain voltages will occur. So what angles and watch for that angles we'll talk about that in a second. Would you have an instantaneous value of 450 volts if the sine wave had a peak value of 725? So again we're using what we know sine theta times the peak value of 725 gives us an instantaneous value of 450. We're going to transpose that 725 out of this side whatever we do to one side of the equation we do to the other. So sine of theta is equal to 450 divided by 725. The sine of theta is equal to 0.621. Now we need to get this theta alone. We're going to inverse sine this side then we're going to also inverse sine that side whatever you do to one side of the equation you do to the other. We end up with an angle of 38.4 degrees meaning that when this sine wave has 450 volts on it it is at 38.4 degrees into its cycle. So that's our angle number one is 38.4 degrees. So at 38.4 degrees this voltage occurs. Now you notice though that this point here is generally going to be roughly the same value as that point there. So you could say that you have that value and that value will be equal meaning that it occurs two times but oh let's take a look down here it also could occur at that point or that point yes in the negative direction but you're still going to have the same idea for the values. So let's take a look we mean here. If angle one is at 38.4 degrees into the cycle we could say that 180 degrees which is here and if we go back 38.4 we'll get us the same value. So we do that and we calculate that out to be 141.6 degrees. Into the third angle if we start at 180 degrees and we push our way into 38.4 degrees we're going to get the same value. So 180 plus 38.4 equals 218.4 degrees and I think you're picking up what I'm putting down here 360 degrees we're at the end of the cycle but if we push it back 38.4 degrees we're going to get the same value. So we end up with 321.6 degrees. So that value occurs four times in this complete cycle. So at 38.4 at 141.6 at 218.4 and at 321.6. So watch to see if you're being asked for angles or just one angle. If it's just one angle you can pick any one of these four. Generally though we're going to ask you for the four angles.


Hey there friends, thanks for checking in today. We're looking at the sky cpx-3 chambered in 380 sky introduced this three years ago and on two separate occasions They announced that they were going to release it and for some reason or another they did not February 2019 they finally released the sky cpx-3 now the average gun guy says, you know Just take everything from the cpx-2 and scale it down a bit and chamber it in 380. Am I missing something? Yes, you're actually missing quite a bit because the amount of Engineering that goes into just doing that saying what you just said is Incredible like each part has to be scaled down more than we even know so it does take time It takes a lot of energy, but sky did it right and I'll tell you why they made some improvements over their nine millimeter models the cpx-2 and These are improvements that I think Their customers will like let's start with The grip if you recall the cpx-2 has like scallops on the back of the grip And it actually made it wider about a quarter inch wider They removed those still has the finger grooves, but it's a it's about a quarter inch Thinner which makes a difference, you know the quarter inch on a subcompact gun Yep, that makes a difference with no question about that. It does come with three magazines Now the website says to this this came with three in the case when I got this came with three two flat base plate all ten rounds and one extended base plate. I've got some 380 in there so that when we weigh it will get a good idea, but it does come with three magazines and Three-finger contact now two and a half with the flat base plate three finger with the extended magazine another improvement that they made and we'll show clear here is The trigger the cpx-2 trigger has a trigger weight at nine pounds This is that eight pounds so they shaved off an entire pound of the long double-action pull It is a hammer fired gun. All right, you see that hammer there But you do go to a full reset All right, but it it resembles a revolver, you know, it's it's rather rather smooth no Problems there, but it is a long double-action trigger pull that that's heavier than your average double-action trigger pull they consider that a safety because people may pocket carry this gun and That would that would be considered a safety now the barrel length is just under three inches Like just under three inches, you know and now the cpx-2 was just over three like three point one This is like two point nine six So the the barrel length is just a little bit shorter But what they did was they they still have the three dot sights, but the rear sight is adjustable and That's a pretty nice touch All right, the MSRP is 305 a little under 300 at this point in time and I have to believe it's going to drop as time continues and once he's get out now It does say right there robot Quad lock system, so I want to explain that I'm gonna do that by this assembling the gun lock the slide back and just loosen up that pin and pull it out and Then off comes the slide. There's your frame polymer frame And then here's what we're looking at we have a captured recoil spring and guide rod and Your two point nine six or something like that barrel now the barrel on the other one had a little flare to it This one does not just a straight edge barrel and there is Your slide the one thing that I've noticed is in it says the robot quad lock system it this barrel actually works as a 1911 with locking lugs it it gets in there nice and tight and as the gun fires It comes right back to this position It's said to have four contact points that is the quad lock the robot quad lock to keep everything nice and tight And therefore it will also increase Accuracy so each time this moves it comes back to this position and it's very tight That Sky claims is a is an excellent feature and I have no reason to doubt that So that's what we're looking at there It actually took quite a bit of research to find out what exactly that meant because there was a Little bit confusion over that you know and I read it on on their site and I Read other reviews to figure out what exactly is this quad lock? So I think I got it, right? and We'll see if Anybody comes up with any other ideas We'll punch this back in there and there we go. Let's go ahead and get it on the scale We'll get the knife out of the way and See what this is weighing in at with an unloaded magazine The CPX 3 is weighing in at one Pound one and a half ounces We move that to just ounces 17 and a half if we put the 10 rounds of 380 You're looking at 21 ounces even so that's not bad That's not bad the the 10 rounds nine rounds went in easy That extra round I had to get out a speed loader to push that in there That was tough the one gun that I think that would measure up well with it Is the remington RM 380 now we can take a look at this The advantage is that the sky has it it holds for the mags carry four additional rounds But it is smaller on the right the sky's a little wider And there's what we're looking at with the grip So you can see that it's got a little size on it, but the benefit of that is 10 rounds. So there it is guys Eight pound trigger pull Rather smooth not the quickest trigger around but not the worst either does have adjustable sights of thinner Thinner grip in that robot quad lock system. It's supposed to make it more accuracy I think it will but we'll have to see if you like videos like this Please subscribe and share. I always appreciate thumbs up button. Thanks for watching and you guys be safe


Aloha and welcome to On The Go with yours truly, Ian Davidson, the show where you get whatever we're going to give you. Today we're going to be talking about the constitution and things that we are interested in when it comes to that. I have Stan Osterman, host of many shows here at Think Tech. He wants to talk about it and I do too and we think that you guys will enjoy it. Stan, how are you doing? Good, thanks for having me on. Thank you for being on. Kind of weird being on this side of the table. Yeah. I'm getting in front of the camera for me to be quite honest. We are going to talk about the constitution and I'll be quite honest right from the get-go. I've looked at it. I don't want to say that I'm an expert at it and you find people talking about it a lot and people saying things that they believe are true to them because it's what they've even learned or what they've inferred from people talking, all that kind of stuff. What kind of things in the constitution do you feel people miss the mark on? Actually, as we were talking a little bit earlier, I think that a lot of people call themselves Muslims or Christians or Jews or whatever and they never read the source documents. They never read the Bible or the Torah or the Koran and yet they talk like they're experts in their religion and they think they really know what those religions stand for. Likewise, the constitution. Like you said, I think other than what you get in school, depending on whether there's a big surf that day or not, you may or may not have gotten anything out of that class because you had your mind on girls are surfing or something else. If that's the only time you got any education on the constitution, which is actually the case for me, you probably don't recall a whole lot or don't really know what's in there. For me, I decided to go in the military at the ripe old age of 25 and when I did that, I went in with the objective of becoming a pilot and flying for the airlines. I didn't think about getting killed in combat. I didn't think about the oath I was taking. I mean, I did them and I swore in and everything and then I know that oath by heart now because I had to give it so many times, but you swear an oath to the Constitution of the United States and you say you'll obey the orders of the president and you swear you're going to do that when you're in the military and do that with your life. So probably about, I don't know, halfway into my lower end of my flying career, I decided, you know, I probably ought to really read what I stood up and took the oath for. So I got a copy of the Constitution and this one was published by the government and given to the military probably in 1990 or thereabouts, it actually has a government printing office number and I've carried it in my briefcase ever since and I read it from time to time. I make out points like this Constitution actually defines the entire army and navy of the United States in 42 words and yet it describes the militia, the National Guard, in 70 words and you can tell this is a very concise document. I wish the tax code was this big, but this is a very elegant document. It establishes the entire government or our country in something this small and this isn't just the Constitution. This has got a couple pages of introductions and even some references at the end, significant dates and all the amendments that were made to the Constitution up to probably 1990, which is all but one, it has all the amendments of the Constitution. So the first 10 with Bill of Rights, so they're actually adopted right after the Constitution, so in the last 250-ish years, 17 amendments to the Constitution? Not a whole lot. It's a pretty unique, I'd call it an elegant document and it sets up our whole country. It tells the President what his role is, it tells the Congress what their role is, it tells the the judicial branch what their role is and how they check and balance each other and it even, like I said, as a guard guy and a military guy, I focused in on Article 1 Section 8 which was part where we talk about the militia and what the role of the militia is because it rolls right into Second Amendment too, as we talked about a little bit earlier, the keeping and bearing of arms in that we've never had a teacher's union take over a government. We've never had a plumber's union take over a government or a bunch of radical kindergarteners take over government, but you do have militaries take over governments. So in this country another check and balance that's not taught in school is the fact that every governor owns a piece of the United States federal military. Like Governor E. Gay doesn't own F-22s, but he owns all the people that fly and maintain those F-22s. He doesn't own, you know, a brigade of army guardsmen, but he has a couple thousand army guardsmen under his command that if he sincerely doesn't want the President to go to war, he'll tell the President, I'm not letting you take my guys. Will there be a fight? Yeah, there'll be a fight, there'll be a legal fight, but some of these things have never been challenged in a court of law, never been challenged. In fact, you know, when you ask about you know my feelings, I'd say that probably two-thirds of the laws in our country have never been challenged at the Supreme Court level, more probably way more than that even. And we have laws in the books that probably should be wiped off because they're A obsolete or B totally unconstitutional, but they're there and we just kind of go with them until somebody contests them. And so I think it's really important that more people read the Constitution. I agree. I think that I, to be honest, I should, I should, but I fear that like most people, it seems very, you know, like you said, it's like this is how it is, it's really simple, it should be easy to understand, but when you go out there and you hear people that will read something and say, this is what it means, and then you have another person say it, a complete different thing. It's very hard for people to, you have to pick a side, which you know what I mean? What really ends up happening is people have to pick a way to understand it.  And then there's the other side and exactly the same thing happens with the Constitution. And it's interesting that is that, was that, do you think that that's how the Constitution was written? So that it can be interpreted in so many different ways that it makes it sort of not stringent on people? No, I wouldn't say that it can be interpreted in so many ways. In fact, it's it's pretty fundamentally structured, but what it does allow is the freedom of dialogue and civil discourse. It lets you talk about differences peacefully. It lets you change government, including a fairly radical change in policy government, peacefully. In fact, one of the, this copy that we got issued when I was a young officer, I'd like to read, this is by Chief Justice Warren Berger who was the commission, the guy who in charge of the committee that put this whole project together. It was really to commemorate the Constitution. It says in the last quarter of the 18th century, no nation in the world was governed with the separated and divided powers providing checks and balances on the exercise of authority by those who governed. Nobody in the whole world, the first time in the world, anybody came up with something like this Constitution. A first step towards such a result was taken with the Declaration of Independence in 1776 and followed by the Constitution which is drafted in Philadelphia in 1787. In 1791, the Bill of Rights was added and each of the antecedents back to the English Bill of Rights and the Magna Carta and beyond were included in this, in this compiling to make the Constitution and what it is today. The work of 55 men in Philadelphia in 1787 was another blow to the concept of divine right of kings. So it really was a pushback on the monarchy in England but the freedoms flowing from the Constitution created a land of opportunities and ever since, ever since then, the discourage, the oppressed people from every part of the world have made their way to our shores. There were others too, educated, affluent, seeking a new life and new freedoms in a new land. This is the meaning of our Constitution. The principal goal of the Bicentennial Commission was to stimulate and appreciate and understand our national heritage. A history of a civics lesson for all of us. The lesson cannot be learned without first reading and grasping the meaning of this remarkable document. The first of its kind in human history, in human history. That's what makes, I think, what makes the U.S. different. A lot of people say well the U.S. is different because we're so rich. We're so powerful. We have a huge powerful military. We do. But that's not when we're rich. We're rich because of this. We're rich because for the first time we had people that were making the government and limiting the government to what the people said they wanted instead of having kings dictate. Because there's a lot of people who love monarchies and say there's nothing better than a benevolent dictator. And it's true. I mean, it's great. Well, at last. But then the successor may not be so great. Yeah, Chopinot. He's got all the power. Yeah. He's hanging people on Chopinot heads because you don't like what they say. That's not good. So the Constitution sets down the framework with everything that should be put into government to give the power to the people being governed versus the power being held by a few people at the top and directing what everybody should do. And I think that's really the beauty of the Constitution. What do you say? I agree. I think that that is, I mean, without that there is no America. It's what it's like the seed kind of for America. What do you say? You know, I agree. I think that people we have the ability it's right there to say, whoa, checks and balances. You see it on TV. You see it happening, I guess, in politics here and in our government and the three branches of government. And you will hear people say, I can do it. I can just do it. And then when somebody says, no, you can't. Wait. Check. Check. It's right here. Then you hear people say, whoa, you can't do that. Are those people do those people just not know that that's how it works? I mean, you know, like the president, let's just president or we don't have to even point him out. We'll point, let's just say, ahead of the highest Democrat. Tries to do something. Someone's going to say, whoa, you can't do that. And if Democrats go, whoa, yes, you can. Well, let's look at the president. Let's take the case of the president. And it strikes right home here in Hawaii. The president put out an executive order that said, we're going to temporarily limit the people coming into our country from certain other countries until we can vet them properly. And first the state of Washington followed up a few months or so later by the state of Hawaii. Filed a court motion to stop that executive order.  I'm doing it anyway? No. No, he didn't. He respected the rule of the court and he'll take it through the judicial process as opposed to you've got people who, in Berkeley, for example, who don't want somebody speaking in an engagement and instead of just saying, hey, this is, this person has a bad message and you should boycott that speech, they go out and destroy windows and private property and public property and the law enforcement doesn't seem to do anything to stop them. There's a big problem there. There's a part of the probable cultural that's missing lately and it seems to be civility. It seems to be just good manners. Maybe we're not teaching good manners in school anymore or respect for other people. But the Constitution makes it really clear that everybody's equal. And so you have a right to say what you want to say and so do I.  We can disagree all we want but we can agree to disagree at the end of the day. Agreed. What I'm interested in though, in this, in that exact sort of scenario, is what we saw was the president do something, then the checks come in and then the president can't do nothing now. He's got to wait. He's got to let the checks and balances, what the Constitution set up. There were our people that believe that that right there, the Boycott Hawaii thing, we're going to Boycott Hawaii. It's the same thing. Those people clearly believe that what that judge has done was wrong and it shouldn't be happening. Whereas when I look at it, I just see the process happening. It's just happening. A lot of people get really hot about it because they're invested in it. I'm not part of any party. I try to play the innocent bystander as much as I can because I think that Constitution says I am me and how I feel is how it is and I have to play within the rules. I don't really join parties and stuff like that or try to grow up. But I see the process and I hear people winging out about the process and my question is, is that just that ignorance of not knowing? Well, I think what it really is going to take and what I think is really the beauty of the process is the president has respected the process and he's respected the court although other people pretty much badmouth the court for their decisions and say well it's all being politically driven and that's someone's opinion. The people who want to Boycott Hawaii, that's their opinion too and they can do it. What would really benefit us is if we could get this thing resolved in the courts quickly and then we would understand because the job of the courts is to decide whether the law is constitutional or not. To decide whether that judge was actually within the bounds of the legal process, the legal system, the legal guidance to do what he did and we need to resolve that quickly If you look at what's going on, because if it ends up being unconstitutional we move on and we just don't have it. Exactly, exactly, done, we press forward. And so I think that one thing that the Constitution tries to do at least in criminal cases is gives you the right to a speedy trial in a criminal case. Okay, but it doesn't necessarily give you that right in a civil case or in in these larger cases, especially if it's going to go all the way to the Supreme Court. There's nobody that says it's got to be done in two weeks. And most of the lawyers will try and drag it out even longer because they want to do more homework and more research and things like that. I agree. I think that that checks and balance process is in place for a good, for the reason, for a really good reason. It just needs to be figured out how to do it. I need to go to a break if you need anything. Stan Osserman, super excited to have him on the show. We're talking about the Constitution or what little I might know and we're learning stuff if you are right on. If you're listening on the podcast, thanks a lot. I have to go to a break in about a minute. We'll be right back. Thanks for tuning in. Aloha. My name is John Waihei and I used to be a part of all the things that you might be angry at. I served in government here and may have made decisions that affects you. So I want to invite you in. I want to invite you in to talk story with me and some very special guests every other Monday here at Talk Story with John Waihei. Come on in, join us, express your opinion, learn more about your state and then do something about it. Aloha. Aloha and happy new year. It's 2017. Please keep up with me on Power Up Hawaii where Hawaii comes together to talk about a clean and just energy future. Please join me on Tuesdays at one o'clock. Mahalo. Right on. Welcome back. This is on to go. I'm Ian Davidson. We're here with Stan Osserman. We're chatting about the Constitution. We were just talking about how people do things, the checks and balances, some of the things that could work better a bit. We're going to talk about some more stuff. What do we want to talk about? We want to talk about, let's talk about liberalism and conservatism. What are your thoughts? Yeah, this is actually really kind of the crux of what I think has kind of come to a point over the last 10 or 15 years. Because being a military person, by nature I tend to be conservative in a real classic definition of I swore to defend the Constitution, which is about as conservative as an American as you can get when you say, I'm going to give my life to protect the document that founds our country. I kind of align with conservative principles. What I find really actually fascinating is that when you look at definitions of liberal and conservative over years and decades and centuries and millennia, it's different. If you look at the definition of liberal and democratic, you're looking at the definition that's in the Constitution, right of the people, rule of law. All those things that are outlined in the Constitution are all democratic principles and at the time they were liberal principles because the conservative view was monarchies. So our entire Constitution is looked at from the foundation as being liberal. But now, 200 and something years later, conservative means I backed the old liberal Constitution. It's like the roles have become very muddied and when people say they're conservative or liberal, a lot of times it's not so clear. In fact, I've had somebody tell me that if you really took the population of Hawaii, which is predominantly Democrat, and I mean we don't even have a Republican in the state senate anymore, but you looked at their actual values and where they line up on a whole bunch of issues, you'd find that they actually probably line up more conservative by definition than liberal. There's some things here that are really strong. Unions are strong. That's pretty contemporary liberals union. Taking care of everyone. Everyone in every way is a liberal viewpoint in today's books. Whereas conservatives say, you know, we want everybody to have a chance, but if we're going to be paying for everybody's everything, then at some point, you know, you're going to run out of people doing the work because you're going to have too many people just on the dole. And the conservatives kind of see that extreme. So it's a really weird time to be to be engaged in politics right now because the definitions have just changed so much over time. But one of the things that I think really gets back to our constitutional part is that we've also come to a point where compromise is not so easy anymore. Because like I say, you have you've gotten to the point where on the on the liberal side or more progressive side, they've pushed the limits on things like abortion and things like that to where it's coming smack head on against religious values on the conservative side, where people who really do read the Bible, fundamental Bibleists born again Christians, you know, they read the Bible and they know what's in there. And whether it's abortion or gay rights or whatever, we're starting to have conflicts where you just can't compromise anymore without compromising your core values. And once you get down to compromising core values, you're not conflict. And I think we're really close to that point. That's why a lot of people when they look at politics nowadays, they see a danger because they see people being anarchistic to get their points across and literally trying to shut you up with violence, just to get their point across. And then people on the other side who just won't move, because I'm sorry, you're backing my my me against a religious wall, and I won't compromise anymore. And we're hitting the stalemate points. And it is kind of dangerous. It's kind of scary. So I think it's it's really time for kind of a reassessment of what's American and look at what's American and redefine ourselves together as what's American. I hear that. And what you know what I I'm totally on board on that leads me to think of the Constitution again. The Constitution is pretty solid rock solid. You said that it one of my sort of things with it is that I happen to believe that it's kind of fluid. It has changed over time. It is not the same thing it was on day one. I know that it's been a very long time since there's been change. And that might be because the way to make changes to it, it might be connected to that sort of hardening of the lines as they spread out over time that to come to the compromise, which would be potentially a change to that to make that sort of example. I don't know. I just feel like that for for the for like the religious aspect of it freedom of legend in there. That's because this is just the basic knowledge high school barely made it through. Is that you can have your religion here in in America and the government cannot tell you you can't right. And that's basically because it's even less than that. It's one sentence in the first amendment in the bill. That's agreed. Let's hear it. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. So here we are. They can have it. You can have whatever religion and if your religion now is the one soul thing that blocks you from compromise and you just say well it's my religion. You can't break that right. You can't tell me it's wrong.  I mean just started the Churchill what's happening now last week. Right. Exactly. And I'm right up against the Constitution. How do we get to that without sort of bending it? And then we can sort of tie that travel ban into it because the proponents of it think that it's it's that right there. You can't sort of say religion is the reason why we are now saying you can't do this. And right or wrong. That's up to the courts to check that. And that's why I see that we have a good social discussion on it. And we might even have referendums. I mean we don't generally do big referendums. Some states do them. But we may have to actually get to that point where we have referendums because you're going to get to these points where you really have to have a solid discussion on.  I mean on the liberal side it's women's reproductive rights. It's a choice of a woman and doctor to make the decision what's best for the woman. On the conservative side it's well then who's speaking for the unborn child. Right. That unborn child is potentially an American citizen and is viable in a fairly young age with today's modern medicine. Who's speaking for that voice that doesn't have a voice. Who's defending their rights because under our Constitution they have rights too. It's just a matter of defining when you're considered a human being or you're not. This is why. And those are where we start to run up against these tough blocks where you're going to have to have a little bit more dialogue and there probably is going to have to be some compromise right to some very fine lines. Right where someone ends up being a loser in that and so both you know like in a compromise if you're going to be a real general compromise both sides lose both sides win. That's the happy medium. That's not going to be the case with something like that like if for that to happen it seems as if almost the decision has to be made and in America where do we stamp that decisions of really importance that matter across the land. I think that's where I say we've gotten to a point where we may have to start doing referendums where we put things on a ballot and say okay America here's your choices. It's this this this or this you know maybe have four or five choices pick one or pick two and that's the most you can pick and sit down and really going to get a good temperature of what's going on in everybody's mind and then get to that point. So I would say if you're going to do another amendment come to the Constitution it may be something like that where you say certain things when they get to basically a logger heads in Congress and then in the political process we offer those things up to be more put on the agenda on the on the voting agenda let the citizens decide individually or let the states decide individually. I mean one of the things that was written into the Constitution specifically was like for the presidential elections the Electoral College and and there's a lot of controversy around that particularly right now because Hillary Clinton won a popular vote Donald Trump won the Electoral College in our law he's the president whether he voted for him or didn't like him whether he liked him whether he were a Republican that didn't like him you know he's the president but people go well but it should be popular vote well no it shouldn't be because the Constitution says it shouldn't be specifically and it it shouldn't be changed I don't think because that means that if you want a campaign in just California Texas and New York you can always win elections and the more money you spend nowadays on elections it's all marketing it's not quality a candidate it's all marketing you never hear a political pundit say well this is the best candidate because they've they've got two PhDs and they've got 15 years of experience in business and they've they've flown a spaceship before and you know they've got all these qualifications they should be president no it's so-and-so raised 20 million dollars in this campaign someone say raise 300 million dollars to they're going to win because they got the best marketing campaign is that the way you want to pick politicians that's the way we pick them today I was gonna say that's kind of that's not a good sign yeah we need to get away from this what I heard the most common term I heard talking about that was called retail politics we need to get away from real to retail politics and get back to hey really what do you stand for right and vote for people based on that definitely I think we could talk for more and I just got the thing in the air telling me that we're coming up and I wanted to talk a lot a lot of about a lot of other stuff and I think we could probably spin this into a longer conversation second amendment we're on totally I want to talk about that for sure the second amendment especially here in Hawaii because of the sort of I don't I don't I have like I said I have a hard time saying difficulty to get weapons here I understand the logic behind it and all the it is it's harder to get one here than say in New Mexico or another state and just in America that just seems wrong like it should just be like it's like this everywhere and you know you hear all the sort of the madness on this side the madness on this side and it there's got to be a happy medium and I think again it just comes down to somebody deciding this is how it is and that's going to be a while we'll talk about that later for sure this has been on the go if you're listening on the podcast I really appreciate it if you just watch this on YouTube click on some link or subscribe or whatever you want to do or tell a friend that's really cool tweet us all that kind of good stuff at think tech Hawaii think tech Hawaii dot com Stan thanks very much for being on it with is this for me you know this really quickly before we go Ben Carson check him out he's giving him away thank you very much Stan we'll talk about this again all right everybody aloha