like ish too much one ish however long it takes for dream labs to tell everybody I'm alive probably now ish probably now now ish the gauntlet why why do you hate women what I was gonna say is you know today's my birthday oh yeah it is it is yeah I'm turning like I don't know 64 and like we're gonna go to a restaurant for dinner and you know what I'm gonna order I'm going to order some beautiful spaghetti bolognese and I tell you what I tell you what if they come on give me shepherds pie instead of spaghetti boys I don't give a damn how good that shepherds pie is I want my buddy spaghetti bolognese I totally will I will like I don't want ship it's pie I want bloody spaghetti bolognese those creatures what do they know you know cuz spaghetti bolognese is this and shepherds pie is that when you want this you don't want that same but it's important had all words are made up so who cares languages for reason okay I'm sorry I didn't understand what you're saying there we are language yeah yeah I was shame on me also fingers like this is spaghetti bolognese made for kids though I'm also back from the dead I found out I didn't I wasn't aware that I had died but I had died all right and the chronicles is the chronicles of the epic Spooderman Wars like it was it was a but I'm back I force myself back from the grave so I can have my spaghetti bolognese yeah you were saying something about Captain Marvel and I rudely interrupted you I didn't know if you wanted to carry on with it what was I saying oh yeah just that I'd like her powers defined because like I said it looks like she's been given a significant power increase in the MCU she's stronger than what I saw her depicted in both the comic books and cartoons that she's in and can she like literally fly or fly across space now travel because that's that's insane when did that come to power come out I think what I'm definitely be repurposed for other things it really can if you fly sorry if you can fly the speed of light just fly at the speed of light through Thanos cool you win the entire thing of like travel cap so light speed engine light speed is not that fast if you go on an interplanetary you know level like if you're traveling across the galaxy it's not that fast but it has to be for the story to work so she flies faster than the speed of light you know the implication that they watched like they went through a couple of sci-fi tropes just before they did their thing they're like what's this what's this hyperdrive warp starburst time jumble jump points like what is all this nonsense why don't they just go at light speed yeah it's just like cool like all the other shows look at them like I mean I I do wonder because if you write something like that it's it's um have you ever watched any science fiction TV shows or movies before they all go out of their way to explain that like light speed isn't good enough when you're trying to travel between different solar systems and you know planets or galaxies but you know who cares that movies terrible the other broken thing because like you know I like science guys and I only have a rudimentary understanding of it but even when you just do a surface level kind of study on it you find out some pretty significant implications like the amount of energy needed to accelerate anything with mass up to light speed it's infinite you need infinite energy so even if you're traveling like a fraction under light speed the amount of energy that you have to produce and is contained in this thing is insane and that's why there's so much power if you ever impact anything moving at light speed with mass into anything else so the the energy release the kinetic energy release is just it planet destroying it's crazy that's the thing is with with a lot of these science fiction things you kind of just have to like go with it because often reality kind of ruins science fiction stuff like not not that it ruins science fiction but more that it's like oh we can't do that we can't do that oh man I can't tell my story now like necessarily and then you try to find creative ways that were there are definitely ways around I mean like the wormhole thing is the is the most obvious one it's like oh we're using wormhole jumps it's like wormholes are theoretical as far as I can remember but uh but that can still work or just like yeah we've just found a way to make it work but Captain Marvel just a human being flying like how can she breathe in space what was that thing that you do it's just like cool I guess I can do this now and not die how'd she know that she could even do that she flew back into space but she didn't know fundamental about captain Marvel she doesn't learn how to use anything she just does it yeah like when she's falling from space it's like cool guess I can fly now how does she even know that's something she could do as rags in our Lord the Rings coverage Mary and Pippin learn how to use a sword for longer than well raid didn't yeah but the same applies Captain Marvel she trained how to do and which she doesn't use at all I yeah we were we were watching Lord of the Rings for maybe for an upcoming eFat movies I won't confirm or deny any of that but we noticed that uh while we were watching it we're like oh hey Mary and Pippin had more training than raided and we're not even being silly that's actually true and even the even the early fights are a form of training like if you look at the first real fight they get into in Mordor they're not fighting that well but they're just managing and they're learning from that and then they're a bit better in the next fight and it's a gradual progression yeah it's almost like it was well-written it'll just be boring emotionally I'd love to see Shadow just right have that argument that would be so funny yeah I'm open to anything about this statement you should be more focused on emotional payoffs than you should intellectual consistency see I like I find so many contradictions in that statement because what you don't think intellectual consistency is a necessary component to have good emotional payoff like it's a very like and if you if there's no intellectual consistency for the emotional payoff it robs the emotional it doesn't make sense like I shared this example with you just perform all I'll say it again like you know that scene between Rose and and Finn at the end of last year I where it's trying to be all emotional and then she says something that is contradictory and stupid and then and then just thought the whole thing lead up to it where you know Finn was actually gonna potentially do something very heroic and brave and save everyone and then she starts she looks like I was really looking forward to that because I was like wow is he wow this might actually be something here this might be something about Finn's journey if he had died there oh sure yeah I've had something in terms of a defense for him I'd be like at least you know dot dot dot but yeah she delivers probably the worst line in all of Star Wars just because it's probably the most blatant contradiction ever and you kind of like understand how this went through so many different systems of like or like layers of you know the actors say in the writing that the re-edits the actors saying it the people watching it back like what do you get there's a big laser destroying everyone yeah can you imagine being the VFX guy it's just like you see that lighter then you just start making the laser blow up the place and just like okay everyone dies oh good one rose and you want that explosion right after she says it you don't want to give it a minute fucking kill everyone so people might actually look at that scene and feel a lot of emotionality and stuff in my opinion it like I feel that would be because you're not really thinking about what's happening what the meaning the you know the actual meaning behind what she says and stuff because when you do you're like oh oh yeah if they say I love it because it's so true that you should the only conflict in life should come from defending those you love rather than attacking those you hate I mean profound did you be like like that's not even the conflict in the film though like most of it to be do you know though did defending those she loves space earlier actually contradicts a moral philosophy that has existed for a long time and it's that the only thing that evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing which is basically if good people don't oppose evil evil will triumph and stuff like that well I mean you know you it's a completely unrealistic mentality to have like it would be like saying we shouldn't be invading Normandy we need to just tell them that we love them it's like yeah like don't go anywhere don't go anywhere Germany leave Germany alone but defend the places Germany come after and it's like guys not gonna they'll just regroup and yeah if she said that holder was attacking them in order to defend those she loves it's like so what the fuck do you think Finn was doing exactly you know when I was watching that scene all I thought was you could have very easily killed both of you like you could have easily blown yourself up while crashing into him it's like what good I'd never been so deflated seeing a hero get in this I remember sitting in the cinema like wanting because the film I was so confused what was going on and then all of a sudden the same like there was a bit of emotion here someone was gonna get killed and she crashes into him and I remember like oh I was like wait what just happened it's a real shame that she didn't crash into his helicopter thingy or whatever the fuck it was and like no I'll do it instead and then she runs off and just throws herself at it and does nothing yeah it would have been really awkward to film but if she bashed him out of the way and took the hit herself I'd have been like oh right what hit like if she went into the house to stop it do you think do you think she kissed him against his will just just sure that's a yes because he has a crush on what would you do with Rose just rose he goes up and kissed you how would you feel probably not grand like you know all this me too stuff is like well what about Finn all the galaxy and this is the one that had to kiss me on the lips I like that that was the best take and I look on his face is he's horrified and they just yep that's a wrap we got we gotta go to lunch guys all right wrap it up and then the realization that he dragged and dumpy corpse all the way over the field he just dragged nobody nobody we just like blow up those two guys there uselessly while Kylo and Luke are having this standoff you just see him pulling her in the background right next to him they're like 10 feet away and they had this wait and stop is like it's all right sorry to give you a second yes I can we're almost done what would when they were dragging past were they just trying to ignore what was going on were they watching what was going on like it's just yeah I was like does Finn know who Luke is I forget a carbon brief they're like aware of him but seemingly nobody is aware of the original heroes they're all like legends for some reason even though their name should be well-known and widespread because all this sequel trilogy does is say that everything that they did didn't do shit that's all coming to a full head in the new episode with Palpatine return it's like yeah and then we can see you know nunchuck lightsabers I mean everything's back you got a bigger vision of the death star came back the back the star destroyer got a thousand stars JJ Abrams man not even once he did it thousands underestimating I think it's gonna be more it's gonna be a brilliant no it's gonna be infinite have you heard the rumor that the death star destroyers that each one has the power of a death star gonna destroy a planet oh yeah well I'm strong as infinity plus one death smoke star lasers galaxy bomb done a giant death star now we'll do a thousand death stars and they're all gonna point Luke and he's gonna break the force and JJ will be like see that's what they wanted that's what the fans wanted and then you'll get all those video essays they're like this was terrible because you gave the fans what they wanted you gave into them instead of doing what Ryan did what I'm just ruining everything they treat like it's a dichotomy don't they you remember all those hyperbolic arguments they were like oh everyone at Luke just jump around the battlefield and destroy everything that's what they wanted but I mean I would have I would have preferred seeing Luke actually do something yes I would have preferred that yes you you cracked the case you want to see a Jedi be a Jedi what's wrong with you I do like the implication that there are only two possible ways to make a film make it bad and what people want or make it good and nobody likes it apparently the version is that is if you talk about the originals getting together in any scene whatsoever that would have been the worst thing possible like there would have been no way to write that that was exciting and good to see it just would have been pandering to the audience and terrible and it's like I feel like you could have introduced new characters without ruining the old ones what can I say you know maybe that was possible you could have told a story that wasn't just undermining the entire point of the original trilogy that that's kind of the reason why we're making yeah yeah if it's to survive it has to evolve they say in a world where Call of Duty exists and is like the biggest selling game every year they say as writers stabbing stars in the heart repeatedly if he has to change it I'm saving it can't you see I'm saving it and I think I think I've mentioned this to a couple of people at this point because his new movies coming out called knives out and it's getting really good reviews and I kind of just don't buy it because he hasn't really made anything good from a writing standpoint everything good that he's made someone else wrote so I don't really I'm unconvinced he's saying all the right things it has a literal Nazi in it so that I'm so sad why is he frowning getting good reviews well they taught themselves to be a literal Nazi from the internet that's one of the characters the forms that don't like Star Wars and like oh these are Nazis right by the way they are let's see if Game of Thrones wins for best writing wouldn't that be great I know someone's gonna send me an article saying Game of Thrones wins X amount of Emmys and I'll just be like it only matters if they win the writing one I don't mind them winning anything else if they win the writing at me what about direction what about direction yeah the choreography is there a choreography Oscar no I don't know it just be it just be directing I don't know but what if I made one just for Game of Thrones oh well the reason why I think is I'd be I'd be upset annoyed with those ones but the writing that's like you know this is well that you know I am last night I was rewatching the you know battles from Lord of the Rings and I was just so thoroughly impressed by them and then I think about the Winterfell one I'm just like yeah you don't deserve to win anything for that yeah you got great sets and you got good special effects but like what is happening in this battle is absurd it was the bad progression you need for a fight seem to be what what progression was there that they ran in a suicidal charge in complete and utter blackness and I think close to look what I'm talking about is progression it's just because progression is almost fabulous like yes things happened and yet he said there was no progression in endgame despite a very clear objective of getting the gauntlet to the time machine wow Fringy why are you trying to hate on someone who's just trying to share their opinion one of the things I wanted to mention today I don't know if this will be I know the rags and bringable care about this I don't sure if I care well but Randy Pitchford's thing on Twitter that Borderlands 3's peak players is more than twice Borderlands 2's on Steam and so okay he said wow you guys are great like he's basically doing a victory lap but like like I read that I was like hang on first of all Borderlands is a really successful like franchise so naturally the players will increase if it's you know healthy but where are these numbers from who confirmed these because I don't think epic don't have their numbers public today I'm curious also I'm hearing a lot about quality issues with Borderlands 3 I am too yeah I'm hearing our framerate issues performance issues across all platforms that's what I've been hearing and the irony is that we expect that one to be the one that's gonna be high-performing and it's pissed everyone off this year and then vice versa call of duty the laughing stock yeah most of time is proving to be quite fun this time yeah I've already got a bunch of people saying I'll play the bait with me yeah it's fun yeah I've been playing it to be honest with you I'm pretty much sold I'll probably buy the game when it comes out yeah same here it feels like it oddly feels like I'm playing back in like 2008 2009 it does feel like the older ones I was enjoying it and it did it did feel like a blast from the past I mean it's weird because Carl just was to be dead as far as I was aware like I thought it was a embarrassing sort of franchise it was well it has been a long time like I think the last one I bought was black ops 3 and the last one I actually enjoyed was black ops 2 that came out 2012 the last one that I played and enjoyed I think was advanced warfare I didn't really like advanced warfare apparently that was that was pretty that was pretty mixed I just liked it because it was really new and silly yeah it depends on if you play campaigns as well because the campaign for that game is very much wasted potential it presents an idea that's interesting and then just ruins it by being a big you know blockbuster kind of thing whereas with this this modern warfare they seem to be going a little bit more grounded from like you may have been hearing the article was right but IGN they they posted an article where they were very negative about the campaign yeah oh and it was them it was I know that venture beat wrote an article whining about it and it was Dean Takahashi he wrote that the cup fame cuphead infamy cup fame cup fame no that I mean the thing is is when I read the article and they said what it was about I'm like this actually sounds interesting for the first time in a long time this sounds interesting it might be interesting I might like to play this it's not just there's our tanks and there's their tanks killer tanks well I mean from what I from what I read it's actually being like it seems like it's going to be very critical of of the means by which you know goals are achieved in modern warfare that seems to be the the point of the story based on the things that it's mentioning like you know children having to you know survive in a town that's being raided by soldiers and special ops forces you know injecting themselves into a combat zone where there are civilians and it's nighttime and everything's happening too quickly to you know make the right decisions so that sounds really interesting and you know I don't want you telling them that they shouldn't be trying to do that because it offends you like fuck off I want to see this outside of a wonderful plague doctor did everyone here get told that they were going to be unverified at one point in the past week yeah I guess am I the only one who who was not told this you actually might be the only one that might actually because you you're a published author at this point they could be because I was wondering why like and I feel a bit we like why why am I getting any special treatment because and I think I must be right I or I just I'm under the radar but it could be the fact that I'm an all I'm published now and if you google my name a couple of hits come up so that might be it but man what a stupid decision though all right yeah upon further inspection you're not who you said you are sorry even though even though we literally mailed you a plaque with your name and everything on it we can't really be sure that you're who you say you are and the reasons they were given because there's such good utility in it you know having the verified thing particularly if another channel comments on one of your videos and you they stand out it's like oh because I heard someone mention I forget who it was but like they really like seeing other creators comment on their YouTube channels because it means that you know you get to know who's watching a potential opportunity for collaborations and things and that's the exact same thing for me it's a it's a really useful important feature they flipped quicker than I thought they would well I was going to say so it's period which surprised me developed issues and saying to our creators and users I'm sorry for the frustration and hurt we've caused with our new approach to verification and I'm just like what did you expect what did you think people gonna be okay with this I think I said this to a rag the other day but I was like how many creators did they expect would not appeal how many careers every single literally everyone would would be like no I earn that shit you can't just take it away the original reasoning was that it had caused confusion isn't that what I originally said yeah but I mean so we're gonna take it away I heard that and I this isn't verified this is probably rumor but there is some validity to it I think that YouTube might have been concerned that the tick could have been interpreted as YouTube approving of the contents and and therefore they didn't want that you know to happen they didn't want to because anyway stupid enough maybe change the name to YouTube social credit system and then you know that that's all you need to do at that point because it's probably gonna be the same thing as Twitter where you can have somebody who's got like 2,000 followers and they're verified and then you have someone with 400,000 who's not verified because they didn't go on TV you know a few times he said yeah well well yeah I just like to get some feedback and be hard to find out about who was unverified and who was verified because it seemed very arbitrary like they were huge creators million subs and stuff getting unverified and and I wonder if it is public profile that keeps them verified but all to debunk that all you would need to find out is anyone with a prominent public profile to say no I was unverified too and then it really comes into all who the heck is determining or was determining who was going to be verified and who was going to be unverified did you see the comparison screenshot where they had the official Pingu YouTube channel was still verified and YouTube wasn't said while trying to make improvements we missed the mark and as I write this we're working to address your concerns and we'll have more updates soon and when I read that I was like oh is it gonna be the kind of fix where it's not actually a fix but um yeah she said we heard loud and clear how much the badge means to you channels that currently have verification will now keep it without appeal will continue reviewing those channels to ensure we're protecting creators from impersonation yeah again like it was really bizarre that they gave you the option to try and prove that someone might impersonate you and it's like you realize the verification was protection from right yeah that's so there will be more impersonators if you take the verification away so it doesn't even matter how many there are now there will be more because I've seen it happen do you remember that time I want to say like three or four years ago or a lot of people's accounts were being like faked with spam website links happening to a lot of let's players where people just invent the channel name like take markiplier for example copy the name copy the image and then just post loads of times like you know hey guys happy to see you on my comment section I'd really appreciate it if you check out this link because it's gonna bubble and it's just like it's terrible and it was like yeah and they had to start saying like don't trust any links that don't have a tick on them and it's like oh that's clever and it's like by taking the tick away you open this all back up again you idiots why would you do that and then to say that the intention of taking away the tick was to protect against you know false accounts duplicate accounts it's like no they're just saying things they're just like yeah this is good for you it's like but how is this good for you no no explain it's good shut up it's good and then she went on to say that you just need a hundred case subs and you'll be eligible to apply and so everything's back to normal though I imagine they're gonna be much more um difficult to get verification slots are cool that's awesome yeah I know right I think all channels who are working like there's gonna be a whole bunch of channels out there who are 90k and they're like oh great like thanks yeah they took it back channels that hit 100k that the day it happened yeah at least they gotta keep this now like I'm happy that they've taken it back I was just kind of like people are putting on their tinfoil hats because they're like they don't usually take bad things back is like did they do something absurdly stupid and then take it back to try and gain favor like we listen you reckon I don't know they do make a lot of changes where they just don't give a damn and let you know sections of youtube burn as a result like you heard about the uh upcoming changes for children's content that's happening uh yeah like that is just I didn't actually horrifying well they're basically uh so for children's content they're basically gonna nuke most monetization which means targeted ads and it's because the FTC find youtube google for an insane amount and the exact reasons were because of they're breaking some laws in regards to advertising to miners and stuff and so youtube as to try and you know avoid another massive fine basically are turning off all targeted ads because like if you look at traditional tv there's there are really strict stipulations about advertising for children for instance one of the stipulations is that they can't have a product advertising something that's related directly related to the tv show that's playing so you can't advertise pokemon toys on while pokemon the tv show was playing or he man toys when he man was playing and stuff I don't think these stipulations actually in place back in the 80s but that's what it's like now and so it's really strict and they've found youtube breaching a lot of it and so targeted ads are ads that are appearing based on people's watch history and other things like that right which is how how internet monetization like internet advertising works at this point yeah yeah and that's what most of the ads are um that I've heard you know people who are in the thing that's like either 70 percent or higher most ads on youtube are these targeted ads and that's where most monetization comes from they're valuable they're more valuable you get more money for targeted ads but basically for any content that is made for I forget the the age they're more valuable you get more 12 or 13 or something and yeah and so uh children's content they are not allowed any targeted ads on their channel they do not get no they won't get notifications anymore or comments which is just like absolute execution on on so many channels and and they target this not based on the watch history but based on if the video is determined to be made for children and this could hit minecraft youtubers like uh so a lot of gamers could be hit let alone the heap thousands of youtubers that just make content specifically made for kids and and I know a lot of youtubers that make kids content that this is going to impact massively and so like it's basically almost the end of youtube monetization for them and we will yet to see how much how well the monetization will go with non targeted ads because they do get just regular ads but if they're going to get less money for those ads they're already going to get a massive hit but the largest impact comes from the fact that notifications will be turned off for their whole channel and no comments either that would be insane yeah yeah if you're making kids content that basically means your channel is dead like if you're if you're not going to get notifications when you upload now i could be you know painting a much more apocalyptic result of this but this is just what i'm kind of seeing as the result it'd be nice if it isn't as bad when these changes roll out but it's basically youtube saying no these are the changes we're making and i can see that their hand is forced a bit because of the ftc but basically content uh kids content creators yeah this is happening sorry screw you we can't do anything about it and and i i guess is an official message from efap fuck kids we hate them they're terrible we despise all children from around the world of all colors and religions we don't have anything to do with them kids is not meaning you fuck kids was that a command for the efap or no am i the only one here who has kids just just throw you out all of the efap chat is my are my children and you heard what rags said to you fuck them um rags talk about how you released your video on brown table to the audience i did release my video on brown table to the efap audience i did do that a few days ago um it took like two weeks just to show how how much it gets pushed back in the video it says hey we just got done with episode 50 and then by the time it got released you know obviously you know it shows episode 50 being the last ones on moeller channel on the moeller channel you know but it took it took about um oddly no copyright hits for all the the marvel clips so that was strange uh but i'm glad of it i got stymied by the monetization where they said it wasn't approved and so i had an appeal and they said yeah it's still not approved and then i had to go through the creator support thing and had them look at it again and then they said all right we'll pass it on to our internal team and that took another basically two weeks like that video was ready to release when mollers last video was ready i was just coincidental there but it only was able to i was only able to get it out when i got it out well either way i didn't long waited and you annihilated him like it was almost biblical one could say but approached the argument pretty much in every way and the loyal wonderful efap audience they can check it out if they want to i put it at the top of the description there's the link you could watch it now and come back or you can watch it actually either way actually put them both up and listen to them both at the same time that's the peak way to experience a rags video on if oh yeah people were upset said what did you say to me i was just gonna say i've only just started rags's new video and i think about half uh 20 minutes in but it was just good to see the beautiful don's face again so i was happy already is a pity you couldn't gush over him more rags but you have to be clinical when it comes to to working things out in like a courtroom setting like if you were his lawyer you'd be like we all know he's very handsome and wonderful but we can't if i was right now if i was going to the lore i mean how much how would you even start new people up on the lore that would have been its own like that's actually a kind of a big undertaking and would have taken a lot of time and i don't even know exactly how i would have gone about it so i just kind of try and explain a religion to someone quickly it can't be done yeah to explain his heroic exploits for life it's not easy that's a 10 hour video right there um but yeah people are upset with you because you said dr strange was objectively the worst mcu film do you want to develop that so people can be less angry i want to i want oh are people angry about that i saw a couple comments that were like explain yourself that's a ridiculous claim how could you say that when you have four two i am and three uh captain all those movies those movies make sense sort of captain or dr strange a story just doesn't make sense like it's literally nonsensical it's like magic you watched it for the first time with moeller and i didn't yeah yeah and um i remember as i was watching it i was enjoying it at the start but then about halfway it started to collapse like it just fell apart completely i was really surprised actually i was like wow this is not holding up well at all i'll never forget the ghost i'm surprised i didn't i i thought it wasn't bad well i'm interested in thoughts but that this could derail the whole straight yeah the ghost fight and the whole duramamu reset time thing it's all it's nonsense it's none of the rules seem to make sense with the time thing people can break out of him rewinding time how is that possible how can you possibly do that you can't have a coherent thought to break out of the time reversal if time is being reversed on you you know what i mean yeah yeah i get what you're saying there um i don't know like because marvel can play pretty uh you know loose with how they follow through with certain established things but i found a with the magic that was being played around with dr strange is that they established basically how something could work even if the way it worked doesn't really make sense if it is working that way specifically and then they just stay true to that standard that they established you can have the magic be far more satisfying and in most instances probably not in every instance but in most instances it seemed like that they were sticking with that that dr strange learned a limited number of spells in that movie and that these were the spells that it was always reverting back to and you kind of got to see their strengths and lengths of what they could achieve in the in the fact that when we got to see how they were being used and what would overcome them you got the shield thing you had the whip thing um he had the portals if he was holding the ring but if you lose the ring you can't do the portal so you need to get the ring and stuff and those work decently enough for me they they satisfied me i think uh i think the ghost fight was a good example of where it doesn't like because they're ghosts but they seem to interact with physical objects completely arbitrarily i cannot like uh uh well it's like you know they get punched into a vending machine and then something happens to them sorry you broke i you broke out there broke up fringy who fring daddy he's dead he's dead i thought it was just not working oh you back down all right okay uh yeah no it's like this is almost as arbitrary as the ghost scene yeah not the the the ghost scene it's like what what affects them seems to be completely inconsistent because they like grab onto the ground when they go through it but it's like you're a ghost you can't interact with the grounds you you don't exist in the physical realm skip to the big retarded finish where he where oh the electrocution zap somehow translate into the astral realm and then he blows him up on the unconscious dr strage which sends electricity from his body into his astral form into the other astral guy who explodes him and kills the unconscious guy like what my brain falls out of my head with that i get it now it doesn't make sense but if that became a rule that you can try like electricity can be sent into the astral plane and then they were consistent with that rule i'll be like okay if you consistent if i doesn't make sense as to why but if that's the rule and you say true to it you can work with it and it can be satisfying if they kind of revert back oh we can do this this affects the astral thing but the unfortunate thing is is that marvel i'm pretty sure they're not going to be consistent to that that's just in the i'm watching the i'm watching the fight right now so right at the beginning of the fight like dr strange punches the other guy he grabs onto the floor the other guy comes back and punches dr strange into a wall and he hits the wall like he hits it as though he were in the room and then two seconds later he throws him through another wall like he goes through it why did he not go through the first wall he just decided not to i guess what's if what if it was triggered by thought that the ghosts can only interact with the physical realm when they when they actively focus on interacting with it and when they're not sorry i don't know why i get in sorry david it's okay he comes out sometimes i can't control it um and then when they're not when they're not focusing in everything they don't have interaction and they and they go through now that would make it arbitrary because it's like whenever they're not you're touching and interacting they're clearly not focusing but that could be in a like if they explained it and that could be an explanation or an established rule within the universe that you know you need to focus to interact with the physical world when you're in the astral plane now just i will having i will say this though filling in the gaps like this after the fact and have not having explained in the world is is a big flaw in the writing it's a problem oh for sure the audience should not have to explain the plot holes after the fact um but i do feel if sometimes sometimes if the explanations are easy i can go ahead and like all right i can unaccept accepted if i have to jump through too many loops to find an explanation especially if it doesn't make sense and their connections you're making a very um unintuitive and stuff then it's like not not it's stupid i think um i think the thing because i i kind of subjectively i like dr strange because i like dr strange the character that's really entertaining i was the one of the weaker parts of the movie because it's just a jerk no but he has a very straightforward arc like it's a straightforward arc and it works because he's he's he's an asshole getting and then he becomes a better person by the end i think it works and i think it's carrying myself with his uh most if not all the hero movies i'd have to go through them to make sure there's a moment where they'll have to make an important choice his choice was really stew silly she tells him like you can either go back to being a surgeon and being the best or you can commit to being a defender of the universe i'm like you know that dorma was on the way he's going to destroy everything so if you became a surgeon the world gets destroyed like there's no real choice there like the idea that he's like i'm gonna fight for earth is like of course you are because otherwise you're dead would you do anything else but but the thing is from his perspective at that point in time he would have no idea he would have the power to stop the mummer he thinks is an untrained like and because he's selfish i actually think that's an inconsistent kind of thing where he would decide sure i can save the world i'm just a surgeon i have no powers at this point if he doesn't then he can't be a surgeon well it's that's true but you would think he like from his perspective if he's a selfish character he would have more faith in these trained wizards to be able to stop the mummer more than they never take the time stone off him you guys remember that he just has the most the most destructive and important weapon earth has and he they never take it off him he's just got it he's their novice trainer they're like hey what are you doing with what is essentially a giant nuke and he's like uh and then they just oh it's really silly but you know is that at the end are you talking about the end of dr strange from the middle to the end i can't remember when he first gets the the stone but they're like outrage that he has it partially and then they just let him have it like it's not quite like the cloak or whatever it is um where they're like true uh they've chosen you he literally stole the type stone from its like little place and yeah i mean because it makes sense to me that all right we'll let you keep it because you defeated an inter you know dimension but after yeah i'm trusting him with it before it's like yeah yeah you're right you're like why do you get it he just took it it's like for all i know he's just some dude like what he just decided yeah but what i mean is just like what if he said um all right i think i'm done see you later guys and then just like you know disappears it's like okay i guess we just lost time so there is an argument that this could be answered by the ancient what the ancient one says right where she had the fore knowledge that he was going to be the best of them the strongest ever and so she knew ahead of time that he was supposed to have it that could explain why they let him keep it when he took it i did just think of that when you mentioned it as well like oh yeah but then again we're talking about a scene that breaks end game so i'm not sure how much credence we should are we should offer that scene razorback said watch the movie more like he earned it more strange is your spider boy are you talking about the the time stone he didn't earn it he just picked it up yeah he just basically yeah he just kind of walked in and picked it up but the kind of lacked security honestly a little bit yeah like a lock on it and the idea is the cloak thing as well he's just fighting the villain and it decides to go for him that's another thing i thought would have been cool to give us more reason for why it would have chosen strange i do like that scene though how the cloak just sort of like starts beating him up i actually like dr strange i do there's just a lot i like it too like we haven't talked about fucking mordo going evil so poor he's just evil because literally dr straight saves the universe and he's like we shouldn't be so reckless with such power it's like i mean dude we the universe is about to be eaten i don't know oh you're talking about the dude who's like cripples that guy and it's just like i guess i'm evil now oh my god yeah isn't it so we're talking about the black guy that goes evil at the after-credits scene and he says yes with too many wizards in the world yeah that was that was admittedly baffling to see his his logic makes no sense it's like dude the universe wouldn't exist if he didn't do that are you suggesting that that would be a better option just don't exist anymore like dr strange is invested in not using the time stone unless it's absolutely necessary it's like why wouldn't you agree with that why wouldn't that be seems like the thing to do also another thing doesn't dr strange fall over and then the time reversal stops and he's like oh no he's like i have to come up with another plan i remember being like can't just do it again just rewind again so i can't even remember that scene it's been too long since i've watched the i will say though i don't know that i'd say it's objectively the worst i don't think it's the worst i don't know about that i don't think it's the worst it's got flaws for sure um we were what would you say is worse than it for me uh well i mean captain marvel is definitely worse than iron man three is worse i mean three was is horrible yeah and i think like peter is worse than it too um that's a good that could be a conversation what's just because all three of those movies have like fundamental story breaking issues whereas with dr strange they are pretty bad like it does have problems but there are other things that it does well whereas i can't think of many things that the listed movies before did well it's really interesting the moments that cause you to just check out of a movie and sometimes they're really small but for me with iron man three it's when they're like making your hands so hot that they can melt doorknobs that their clothes are perfectly i was like sorry i'm out i'm done i mean that entire thing like the whole the whole system that they have is absurd it's like what are your abilities i make things hot hey i'm iron man this is where i live this is a good idea oh whoops guess i'm dead hey guys there's a missile heading to the house i can see it on the news it's like what that was when i was taken out myself i remember when i first watched i was like how would he possibly have been notified by the news that there's a missile heading towards his house how does the news even know that there's a missile coming to your house and they just got like helicopters right behind the missile we're just here at tody stark's house it's uh it's a nice you know thursday night um sun setting and then like 10 minutes past oh what's this we got like some helicopters coming oh it's like why don't they just spend the whole night outside the house waiting for something to happen yeah he's tody stark man something's bound to happen he was sad that film had a lot of potential it did like i was so hoping they would have actually doubled down on the mandarin and actually made him a proper villain instead of just abandoning like the concept of a terrorist who targets superheroes that's a really cool you know kind of take on how to do you know it's better than that a joke that just makes it nothing you know it's better to ruin all this potential for one simple joke that's not even that funny then king's like he had menace he did the trailers the way they were depicting a man the mandarin it really showed him with menace and ben kingsley or whatever was do it like that way of doing it i was like oh okay this is looking cool you know i wonder if like you know ron johnson was watching that just going yeah that's how you do it great i i do wonder if like when they cut the trailers and everybody's like oh the mandarin's gonna be so cool like they were sitting there in their office they're like yeah yeah this is gonna be great you guys will love them i don't know their expectations will be fine he takes a big poop and says it's smelly that's what the mandarin do you know and you know watch the soccer game and just start cheering just not giving a shit and again it shows ben kingsley's range because he nails both parts like what the fuck is he doing in this movie with this role like what is this why don't you just let him do the mandarin properly it would have been great that's one of those can we do it again movies like we do it again we'll keep a couple things the thing is that the thing that are one silver lining for me you can actually take iron man completely out of the mcu continuity and most of it it's perfectly fine still like what the next thing iron man appears in is what age of ultran and they basically don't even nod to the whole destroying all his iron man suits and all that stuff and giving up being iron man no there's still iron man and so just a fun fact i think i've talked to free about this before but joss weeden was like not in the in crowd when they decided to make winter soldier when they decided to dissolve shield he was like um i have a tv show called agents of shield so they were like oh and he has to like work around his stuff but um on top of that he's making age of ultran it's like yeah here's your cast you got iron man uh he's destroyed all his suits by the way you'd be like what am i meant to do because when i watched iron man through him like is this the end is this like is he done yeah i was so confused yeah i'm so glad they just ignored that part and just like yeah and then isn't it a shame though you know isn't it a shame that the three most successful standalone mcu movies are the worst ones iron man three captain marvel and black panther they're the three most successful standalone ones and they're the worst well see if that's the case i didn't know they were the three best but it's i feel it's evident to see why and it's not because the movies are good it's based on what came before in the expectation i think it's uh i think it's what came before and after yeah because black panther was the lead into infinity war and captain marvel was the lead into endgame i don't know if those movies and plus like black panther in particular had a lot of the like i'm pretty sure black panther in the domestic domestic by us actually outperformed infinity war but infinity war performed way better overall and international i just find it interesting all we're wrong and those films are all very good but we just have a very bad take and um and shad probably won't like that far from home is the most successful spider-man film uh by box office yeah isn't it well actually it's like the least successful as well which is it is and that's a damn shame because it's probably the best one that's great yeah it's it's really good um but i think it's just indicative of of the market it's like you can have this really great innovative but really strong story and people just won't watch it and yet you know captain marvel makes 1.2 billion dollars or something that's what i feel like about battle angel elita that movie should that was so good and i mean you probably don't want to get me talking about a little battle eight i don't think it's as bad as i think wolf said to you but i uh i think that wasn't a lot of problems i well i'm not saying it's perfect i'm just saying i really liked it it was a good yeah fair enough i i can see why people like that movie a lot um and i would say that's probably you know the thing is is um that movie even though i don't i don't think it's particularly good i think it was still ranks pretty highly compared to a lot of other films that have come out this year which says a lot it's just like you know this is one of the better movies of the year and it's like i don't even really enjoy it that much we're not at a great selection last two years no the other thing that i think just made the movie appeal to me i'm not sure if you that's all right that's my phone text message i just got a text message guys i'm ready is it um is it someone saying yes it's someone saying happy birthday i thought it would be uh that's nice now you know this is uh this is a completely unrelated but it's actually my birthday tomorrow i find it interesting wow there you go happy birthday yeah what a what are the well thanks for the preemptive one yeah what are the odds though well one and three hundred four if we follow the logic if we follow the logic clearly that means robot heads birthday must be the day after happy birthday man interesting interestingly enough top hats and champagne a youtuber who i'm friends with his birthday is actually the day after mine too so it's in your session yeah well he lives in australia yeah that doesn't count me i still have been born there otherwise this whole system falls apart and fringy we could still be doing this stream when it's your birthday so it might happen who knows it might last whole 24 hours god so before we go too far off topic uh just going back to what i was saying about elite is the the thing that you that sent us off topic oh well screw you let's let's let's get at me i'd like to hear about this actually well no it's just that i liked or it struck me as uh finally uh going back to the roots of what makes a good heroic female character i mean and it's not something we haven't seen before but lately lately it's not something that we've seen where you have a female protagonist who is also distinctly feminine and vulnerable but also can kick butt i was like yes this is how you do it i i definitely see that and i think that's probably the reason why a lot of people like it i don't think there's my thing is i don't know if i can say there's much wrong with elito but that's kind of the problem is because i don't think there's much for me to latch on to she's very blank like she's a good guy because she is and she you know she has these abilities that she got back a long time ago and we're not going to see and um and it's not it's not really a problem because i do explain why she's got all these abilities which is fine yeah goodness yeah you know how you're saying she's good because she's good but i think that's very like clearly explained and evident by the fact that she's just she's got a good kind heart she's innocent naive but that naivety actually works against her in the movie and so like that's that's a good more complex character because of that in my mind where um you know i mean i guess yeah i guess um i mean at least she fails like there's that she does fail yeah and she makes mistakes she she falls head over heels for the wrong guy because she's too trusting and she's too innocent and unaware and that and the whole experience makes her harder and a bit more world savvy and things like that and yeah it's all good i enjoyed that those elements i uh i guess i was left wanting a bit more the movie probably could have stood to be a bit longer i think i think they needed to explain the world a bit better because i haven't read the manga so i don't i don't really get it i don't understand like the the state of the world manga uh okay you have to pronounce the comic book names correctly but uh but i will i would agree that it's um that it's probably i i need to pay more attention to it like i need to watch it again i think yeah the character won me over with elita and i mean beautiful animations and you know expression oh yeah the special effects is kind of like it's probably the best um special effects i've ever seen um yes we do prefer it to captain marvel fine yes true of course we do you'd hope so right there's some people out there who think captain marvel's great you know it's funny there's this conspiracy that the whole elita vs captain marvel thing was pushed by either alt right white nation or everything like that i've come off it no it's because one movie was good and one movie was crap okay i don't get it like uh rosa salazar is not she's like latin american she's not white so that doesn't make sense well well that uh doesn't know what are you are you talking because robot said maybe we can't hear him are you speaking oh i can't hear him oh hi oh yeah oh yeah robot and transceiver putting different screws robot head you see leaf functioning i'm he we could have missed some like great pearls of wisdom yeah i i always hate to feel bad about that because i feel like for them this whole time they've been trying to speak and just people ignoring oh wow okay you guys you know thanks feels bad bad he's trying to fix it when are you gonna get a new avatar robot head i don't know how i feel about the one you got now the destiny face and destiny i don't i don't know man it's giving you Vietnam flashbacks right i'm a bit late to do that he's it's all over his stuff now like it's in all of his yeah well you know what you know what was all over the face of yeah well you know listen there was a flag all over okay so so you think they're just like oh i guess we we can't have another roman emperor because the old ones face is all over the coinage well okay robot head if you if you if you don't say anything we'll take your silence as saying you hate rags okay gotcha oh wow okay jeez wow wow you offended him then rags now all right yes come on back slightly say more things can you hear me now we can hear you we can hear you oh very good what do you have to retort back with rags with it's not even a retort i wouldn't even make him fuck him up robot head fuck him we can try you can try so many others have tried what hope do you have he's the head of robot here's a confession when when i found this head and and i changed it i didn't know where it was from is it is it kade six's head i don't know i think that's just a very sorry head no he doesn't even know i needed a three-dimensional head for a video and i thought that that head looks pretty cool i found it and uh yes i mean the art the art direction in destiny is really good it's just a shame that everything else is awful and then people keep on starting to ask me about the game and i thought i'm gonna be oh yeah like you must love it you're like uh yeah that's all this kind of reminds me of um you know when baring used the bear from total drama islands and like every time i watched his video i'm like oh this is like the bear from that show and then eventually became an issue yeah and i keep meaning to find i need to find an artist to do me a new one that's just mine but um yeah it's got out of hand now so now i just have to go with it so it's uh have some you can always change that means might you maybe just sort through the fat means you might find something yeah question if you change would that make you a trans robot no he could still be a male robot well he doesn't even have a gender because he's a robot so can a robot even be trans i have all these i'm wondering i can actually be anything we can be a transformer so what are your preferred pronouns sir well you just um it is tripod um the correct nomenclature when you don't have the pronouns is to say what is your what are your pronouns creature they prefer it when you say creature i was trying to say when no one was listening to me and i thought you're all being rude that a leader i think shows how bad the competition is that like i understand people liking that film but i i think people like it because the other films out at the moment are so fucking terrible i think if it came out in like the 80s it would be an average action film probably like because there was some other really good contenders for you know strong strong strong female characters i'm talking about actually proper you know good well-written female we're talking like uh you know Ripley sarah connor you know those characters i don't enjoy it but i see people loving it and i think they they they're latching onto it because they freaking hate captain marvel and i think you know it's out there shit i think part of it is it's it's a really straightforward movie and there's probably value in that when you have movies like The Last Jedi that are just a complete mess because they're trying to you know be really profound and they just don't understand the fundamentals whereas that movie is like it at least even though i don't think it fully nails it in that regard i i do see as a grasp of the fundamentals of like you know a straightforward character arc and hero's journey stuff like that you know it's it's sort of like basic general things that people tend to like yeah and even things that shouldn't really be a feature become a feature because of this like did you hear the controversy over elita having too perfect a physical you know uh body basically she's a robot her eyes are too slim yeah like and that she was too slim and you know her body was too fit and that's that's evil let us like she's a robot yes sorry such a non-controversy but the fact that you want to have the energy that is like screw you we're gonna make this you know female action hero be attractive you know in the proper conventional sense of proper how dare i say proper oh i'm gonna be burned to that i want my phone is fat and ugly i uh i actually i'm curious about this because i often people say i do see people say things like how come in video games like female characters attending to skew like a weight because i think the problem with video games before was that basically all female characters were over sexualized and now it's like you can't make sexualized female characters and video they went for at least like one to zero instead of acknowledging well i i think those two numbers i think i think Mortal Kombat 11 was a good example every male combatant in Mortal Kombat 11 has a topless variant um but none of the female combatants have any like you know just bikini variants i don't really care either way like i don't care but it's just interesting that that's like with the men they can be completely topless and it's fine but with the women they can't and i kind of feel like that's going isn't that just going backwards wouldn't it be better if everybody was like everything or nothing you know that's all it said you just think feminism is about equality for with content that is generally more geared towards a male audience and action movies generally are and generally men tend to like action movies far more than romances and stuff like that what is wrong with either then making the characters appeal to that demographic that there's nothing wrong it's like trying to shame men essentially saying no you're not allowed to be attracted to attractive women and we were going to force you to look at men there's a lot of women out there who are like want those parts and like being yes they appreciate it for the work they do on their body that they have people be like dress yourselves for goodness sake like respect yourself i remember mk9 with malina having a bandage outfit i mean i think i think Mortal Kombat 9 has really bad character designs to be honest with you i'm just saying that's as close as they could pretty much get before being a good character then nowadays it's like that would be outright offensive yeah i'm not even talking about i guess levels of modesty yeah just general physical appearance how fit they are and stuff is also and you see this in marvel comics have you seen how a lot of the female characters are being enjoyed and just pick up any captain marvel comic right have a look at how she's being drawn now because i think with comics it's like there are i in the 90s like i i'm not a big fan of comic book art from the 90s where people just a downright unrealistic looking to a degree that is off-putting um yeah i tend to play more yeah yeah i tend to prefer it when you say unrealistic in what way you talk because like well comic books are meant to depict a like an extreme but where the male characters are buff beyond belief and then the female characters also have and yes they're unrealistic proportions but like that's kind of the whole thing about comic books because they're supposed to be godlike characters um i mean it depends on what comics we're talking about i mean comic book is just a format i think you're just talking about superhero comic books i'm talking about like just in general i guess doing it as a medium but yeah but when we're talking about superhero comics um you know like rob lifefeld the artist who a lot of people consider to be very bad despite the fact that he was like the artist on some of the best-selling comics of all time um he did that captain america one where like his chest is puffed out to an extent that is just insane oh and we're like female characters you can see their butt and their boobs like facing towards the camera and it's like how is that possible because yeah i think you were talking about there is there's unrealistic proportions and then there is bad proportions where it's just like a mutated message just a result of bad comic book yeah i think i think what i was uh because when it comes to comics now i think the issue i have is not necessarily that the way that characters are drawn is bad necessarily but more that they tend to all be drawn the same way so it's very homogenous and boring like like the way that a lot of characters are drawn now is it's like they're lean they're not too you know shapely in any one way they're just sort of like lean or slim or buff and and like that's it if you know what i mean it's it's it's kind of like boring to see them all look very similar yeah very similar facial features like even if all to say the body shapes are similar i don't think that detracts from the the the core experience of what say a superhero comic book is meant to portray at all i feel actually enhances it i see i'm a fan of novelty if the but like for comic books i reckon you're there for the action the story and stuff like that and having you know the superheroes depicted in a heroic way i i don't think that detracts from what the the action and the heroism and the story in any way i don't think i don't know if it detracts i just i don't like it personally i like grotesque then it's it's hard great all right if you want to think like an example of the standard i refer to you should look up j scott cambell's comic book art and uh one of his best works is danger girl okay and he is one of the most amazing comic book artists like in history in my mind and i reckon that is pretty good he's he's insanely talented but the thing key feature about his art he makes his characters look beautiful both the men and the women they are just astoundingly attractive right and that's the whole thing about comic books and stuff that's the that's one of the draws the features and and like i could i could read a j scott cambell comic book even if the story was crap because it's just so beautiful but like danger girl is such a hilarious kind of parody send up um of the james bond spy kind of you know tropes and stuff and it's over the top hilarious and also beautifully drawn see that that picture fringy just uh yeah that's a horrible picture that's a horrible picture can we bring up like the biggest tits i've ever seen that's like a mean picture you don't even have to watch me that's uh that's rob lifeld right there he uh he wrote the best-selling comic of all time he wrote he wrote an illustrated x force number one and it's bad it's really bad but it's like the best-selling comic ever all right see there's that now bring up a picture of jay yeah pick pick bring up a picture from the armor campbell this is a apparently a j scott cambell fine art print of captain marvel i think it looks pretty good yeah i like it yeah yeah i mean it's not realistic but it's it's it's uh it's it's i think the main thing is um when it comes to art it's like realism is not necessarily the objective it's more so that um it's consistent it's consistent within itself so like you look at this one there are certain objective qualities if we could bring up the captain marvel picture on the um on the e-fap screen um there are consistent objective qualities that make this just gorgeous and part of it is the amount of motion that like this is a static pose yet it feels like there's motion like there's movement in it then there's the flowing lines i don't know if i'd call it an objective quality there i would say that there are certain things certain principles of design that tend to work that's what i'm talking about and you can duplicate it and they consistently work really well and then if you put it in the correct proportions and balance to each other i mean one of my like it's not a goal anymore but i used to want to be a comic book artist as a career ambition and and so studying you know comic book art was a big thing and i got to a competent level not nowhere near as good as camber but you can actually look at my comic book art on my deviant art page yeah we should probably bring that up but if you got one of the artists or my deviant art page one of my um actually upload one of my comic book um character pictures because it was also an outlet for my writing and so yeah i'm kind of saying where's captain marvel's speak to the manager haircut that she had an end going i uh i i don't like the the short haircut that she has in the comics now i like long hair what can i say i don't mind this i don't really care if it's longer short on a chick in the comic it looks a rock but in endgame it was like christ i didn't think you could make me dislike her anymore but you have just with a haircut here's a question in universe so how can you cut captain marvel's hair right because it's captain marvel's teeth with her teeth he's more but she's powerful enough to affect herself what what could possibly be stronger than captain marvel's hair yourself guys guys don't you like this cover for cable and deadpool where like cable's arms are bigger than his head several times over isn't this great so there's one of my arm drawings there when you close your youtube channel to draw babes i mean i mean her waste she doesn't have ribs that's the only problem well that's kind of the thing like you draw them in the proportions to make them look beautiful but also try to convey a level of uh you know movements and flow to it and stuff yeah and one of my big influences was j scott camber with just how gorgeous he makes and like yeah clearly her thighs are as wide as her waist obviously but part of it is to do the you know overly um uh like extreme proportions to get the kind of look um yeah i think i think there's an extent that you can push it to but where the line is drawn i think is it depends because i prefer it when they look like real if you know what i mean like i prefer it when the character looks like a real person who could exit like like we looked at that captain marvel one before it's like i do like that a lot um people don't like the the proportions are not anatomically correct though but that's fine because they're kind of consistent within themselves you know like yeah it's nothing in there that makes me go down this is absurd like it's um do you know what j uh sorry j scott camber camber he's actually been receiving heat recently as a terrible sexist for drawing women in a in an attractive sexy manner and so isn't that positive heartless nope that's negative that's the middle gays and oh and so when that well just hearing about the the you know um a twitter attacks that's being lumped on him recently i was i was i was disappointed here because he's a comic book legend in my mind back in the day and he was one of the core inspirations for my own artwork just for how good he is i mean i uh when it comes to like the art aside like in comic books a lot of them are the older ones like the the veteran ones you know like um like i mean i guess you could call greg capolo veteran at this point he's been working in comics for like 20 years i think he's really good um i like uh jim lee as well that's kind of an obvious one oh yeah jim lee really good um and frank miller i think is really excellent but his is more so from like composition is what i find really impressive about him the way that he just constructs a comic book i mean i think i think he's the best i think he's the best i like mono very sorry and nice nice flowers all right waters um my favorite is leo in the dragon up and coming comics i like him because he draws tits and i like tits another phenomenal artist was michael turnay he's passed away now may he rest in peace but he was an amazing artist i think uh i think what i'm interested in in the in the comic landscape now is because a lot of the people who are really good like you know the really sort of venerated what working in the 90s and the 2000s and you know now they're like getting into their 40s and 50s and they're still around and they're still working um but what was that but that was probably robot head he's trying to do stealth books he usually says belge trying to sneak that one past us it it ranks yeah so i guess my my whole point is like comic books are meant to be gorgeous and beautiful they're they're they're drawings okay and if the drawing is crap when you're reading it it detracts from the experience and stuff and so part of having the beauty in the comic books is the beauty of the characters in make them as you know idealistic as possible especially for superheroes and stuff and what you see now being spat out by marvel is just trash i mean i'm sure there's still some good artists that are still doing good work but a lot of the stuff i'm seeing nowadays it's just absolutely garbage but do you mean do you mean bad from like an actual art standpoint or bad both art standpoint and the way that they're depicting the superheroes because they can't be too unrealistic and stuff like that when there's superheroes i mean i mean i feel like they're because i don't know if i fully agree with that i think that there are i think there are there is a lot of good art in comics still um maybe i'm just seeing the crap ones there could be a lot of good ones there i uh i think because uh i'm a big fan of dead evils this is no surprise and i i read like uh the dead evils comics and they've had good art for a while there was a there was a run that was not so good uh the mark wade run um i didn't really like the art for that at all it was really simplistic and and bland but um but the recent stuff has been really really impressive like really impressive uh art wise okay admittedly i don't like i don't read as much as much in terms of comics as i used to because it's kind of like an expensive hobby uh someone mentioned moon night moon night had some really cool art as well moon night's really cool no flame is easily the best though who's that someone you made up new drotic introduce me to no it's like a short-lived comic series created by somebody where the the superheroes powered by cocaine takes cocaine that's what gives him his power i was like oh my god i'd watch that at a heartbeat let james god make it that'd be funny i think it'd be oh yeah is there is there a video we're meant to be watching well i was actually going to say it it does quite well yeah well i i just kind of jumped into this what what actually was happening that was the intro one hour and 20 oh when i was 20 how late did you guys start well i mean we had to start quote-unquote late for the australians right oh late regard well it's late for us but you know for them it's nice oh i think it's normal time no uh sorely enough struggle to get things on time these people like we have to sleep like what is that nonsense what is sleep but um but yeah i was gonna say this works pretty well as a sort of segue if you with all of you objectifying women as you were doing just there i love objectifying with as rags said the male of gays um we have a video that was that was highlighted to me and i've only i only saw this the introduction just see if it was real it is real uh the guy is serious at least oh really fortunately uh it is titled men a ruining star wars men are oh i mean just by the title that's so profoundly sexist just reverse if there was anything that said women ruining something the reeing that would come as a result it's just it's not really sexist is it because sexism's only possible with a higher power versus lower power that's where i've been that makes total sense it's not confusing at all it also implies that every man is more powerful than every woman it's like we need we need that makes a lot of sense because you know how like men are far more likely to be homeless than women and yeah so i mean you know i'm a lot more powerful than hillary clinton i mean right now maybe she could be like an empty skin suit on the floor i don't know what she's up to we need women to save star wars from the evil men who destroyed it isn't that what um isn't that wasn't that the point of that jonathan macintosh video like the last jedi is about men learning to trust women's judgment it's like how did you get that where did that come from maybe if women made better judgment we trust them more i mean that video was basically the hybrid i mean and what's weird about this right is it's forcing people to look at everything through the spectrum of gender and and so by their logic would you then say well george lucas he was a man he created star wars so that means star wars is great because of men and that's just a stupid thing what if star wars is good because george lucas instead of being a man just had a great idea and you know he had the ambition and he made something amazing okay and gender had nothing to do with it it's never that simple not in upside down land it can never just be an obvious answer it can't just be good no there's always some underlying reason for it that has nothing to do with any creative enterprise so is everyone ready to hear this incredible log no no yeah oh this wonderful guy here we go hey deal here who i want to talk to you oh god he let oh he looks like he looks like a what right what does he look like what does he look like he looks like a faggot he looks like a creep i'm i regret this but that that t-shirts not helping me not want to slap him across the face i'm so fly i'm so fly i never i feel so bad when we do this because probably outside of the video i'm sure he's a really nice guy i'm not sure if he says things that i disagree with you're not sure well if he's comfortable saying that men are ruining stars i imagine it'd be tough to get along i'm already leaving the side of his asshole we'll have to find out in the video i guess his slight came first because we all we are all of the team men here this is true and for some reason by virtual what's between my legs i'm ruining something i thought i thought you actually had to do something to ruin something but okay no you exist and that's enough yeah it's what you do with what's between your legs it's ruining something ruining something you're just doing it wrong i'm gonna talk to you about one of my favorite things star wars but i want to talk to you about how i think men are ruining star wars i'm sure you're like deal you're a man doesn't that mean you're ruining star wars well it's possible i could be ruining star wars you don't hear open to the idea that you can be convinced that you are destroying star wars all right if you truly believe that statement is that i guess you could be unaware of your destruction towards star wars as well jeez i guess you don't even know what it is he's like you're ruining it you're like oh i don't know really see i i was gonna say how do people of such a mindset have any self-esteem but the answer of course is he is virtue signaling like by admitting my own guilt i am so moral and stuff so i'm gonna get so much pussy by telling all the ladies i'm ruining star wars oh well i mean the natural implication is is he gonna argue with it or saving it is that gonna be we go in there i don't know we can still find out well i could be ruining star wars i'm i'm open to that um it's just more okay i'm open to that there's a lot of great men out there don't worry men there's a lot of great men out there thank you for that generous allowance that there are many great men out there asians are ruining star wars now before we get started you know there are a lot of great asians out there but in case you didn't know in case you didn't know the status quo is that men are so horrible i need to tell you there's a lot of great men out there some men are great there's some men are what what is the point of these statements like hey you know humans are bad but there's a lot of great people it's like so what the fuck you even say like just saying it like he's not one like he's talking about some other i'm an ally you know i'm an ally i'm a i'm an ally i'm a great guy i'm i'm trying you know that's all i can do i can i can try oh you know it's so hard being a man you know who hates women just by default i guess you want me to write a dad what would i say for gdell i mean like all men are evil some of them are great sure i don't even know it's just like thank you for the generous allowance that not all men are shit well you would you would hope you would hope that would be the default but it's not unfortunate well not from his perspective like if you meet someone dependent on their gender if they're male okay you should expect them to be bad because that's the most men but but some are good but because only some are great you should expect this guy or this person you're meeting because they're a male to be a jerk well the thing is i would like to ask him his numbers because when he says a lot i'd be like how much is a lot give me a percentage and if he said anything less than like 90 percent or 80 percent i'd be like okay jesus christ you have a very unfavorable view of humanity don't you put neighbor would be living in guys he has a lendo calrysian funko pop oh and it's it's the new vision as well i think i don't think that's the old oh yeah that's that's our global one who is this still just because just consume product and be excited about next product i'm sure he loved solo i'm sure he's a huge fan of solo solo he has a fucking lendo calrysian funko pop oh no don't tell you everything about it yes they actually do all right we're attacking just so you don't need to defend yourself there's something different about yeah only the shitty ones will defend themselves you're not allowed to enjoy it for more than a couple i'm not attacking you have you seen the title of the video title i'm getting mixed messages you're a cunt i'm not attacking you all right even though the title is you're a dick he's already set this up to be if you counter this video or respond to this video or anything like that then you're one of the bad ones and if you're a real good man you will just accept this video and move on with your life you won't disagree with it faulty premise um is there any chance so you can pull up the chat rags for a weird set of reasons i can't actually ban people myself because of the way i've got my chat set up but um yeah yeah yeah i was just gonna i was gonna say if you could keep an eye they're not too there's not too much mainly coming from singular accounts so i don't want the chat to have their experience ruined or folk um yeah let me click the button fuck them up rags uh oh yeah fringy if you want to say something um i can give you the the wrench as well you probably should oh here we go all right no i'm i'm i'm all right well i mean so that you can slap people if you you don't want to slap people oh yeah give me give me whatever wrench yeah give me a wrench uh they like ratchet and there we go i got a i got a port that'll be that'll be good um if you just say something in chat so i can grab your name all right all right makes it nice and easy for me you think hat man joe has i was meant to write hello but i accidentally wrote hell i choose to tip that it's a way oh yeah you just he misspelled hello i did oh right that does need slapped oh there you go i can get desk bullshit into wrench motors desk bullshit isn't right there you go now cap man joe is not going to be able to have your address what is that spam does anyone know what that is i don't like what what what's the right okay uh yeah anyway back on with this wonderful man this great man yourself there's something different about star wars now the it you're not allowed to enjoy it for more than a couple hours before what don't read the reviews then don't read the reviews and don't read the reviews just much and just enjoy it just enjoy hang on like he's saying you're not allowed to enjoy it and i i mean i think he's taking this from the fact that when people try and say for instance last year i was good i would generally say no it's it's a pretty bad movie or i felt it was bad that's not saying you're not allowed to enjoy you're allowed to enjoy stuff that's yeah crap but that seems to be what is interpreting that that that by people saying something is bad he interprets to mean we're saying you're not allowed to enjoy it when is any of us i think being a victim is important i mean i do think um i think the implication is that by telling people how something is bad they won't like it anymore but to me it's like yeah that's you you decided that doesn't have to do with us really like you know whether or not your emotional state will change in terms of how you see this art once you've heard a selection of facts slash statements from us it's just like what are we supposed to do we can't control that sorry man you feel that way but you're just gonna have to learn to be your own fucking person i guess yeah and i i think this is the classic though the so you take a conversation someone says oh i liked last Jedi as long as i didn't like it that's as far as the the feelings conversation goes and then one of them says i don't know i just really like pose arc because it really showed that he learned a lot from that initial fumble to the end and then that second guy explains like hold the like 20 minutes how that makes no sense whatsoever you can't even make that statement because that's just not true and then you'd be like wow you just don't let me have my feelings don't let me enjoy it it's like that's not what just happened no you can have your infract feelings like luckily people don't choose their beliefs and what i have said right now has already planted its seed and it is growing slowly but surely inside of your mind and before you know it you will hate this movie as much as i will i do like how he says i'm not allowed to enjoy things i'm not allowed to hate things dick yeah it goes both ways like guys stop being toxic guys can you keep your opinions to yourself you're like oh this seems fair um yeah all right let's let's carry on with how he's not allowed to feel like i said i've never understood this argument anyway how can i stop you from feeling stuff well it's because people associate um like with good they think if they like it it must be good it's like oh no you can like stuff that's objectively bad i really like some of the Fast and Furious movies and they are really bad um but the reasons why i like them i think you could objectively quantify for you know for certain things like uh you know just the the silly fun of it and stuff um but yeah so when someone says i like it and then they try and qualify it and then you're like well no those are bad reasons you're making me not like it you can't like it the thing is yeah exactly it's like i'm not a mind i'm not a mind manipulator i can't like telepathically make you choose to dislike the movie now that you know it'll be just too early on good you we spent a while trying to explain all of our issues with with dr stranger then we all like shared the oh by the way i like dr strange yeah it doesn't take a really easy to like it it's really easy i like venom and venom's awful it's really bad but i like it and so yeah when we have a big conversation all about venom but then it then freaks it with guys just don't let people like stuff you're allowed to like things and i feel really dumb saying it's like i never had the power to take that away from you anyway but thanks for giving me that power yeah it's like you know we can't make you not like stuff that's just your brain man that's just that's all you what's annoying they strangely they strangely attach their personality to what they like and so they're they're personally attacked like let them lie exactly i mean look at all the stuff look at his zelda stuff like he probably is not like it's probably a part of his identity so you're like hey guys absolutely princess isn't great you know he might he might get really upset about that is he framed a comic book back there as well he has he's in frame the infinity gauntlet uh arc all right yeah family picture that's the nice bit of the whole selection i think yeah that's why they're fine doesn't say anything about him what's that like abstract piece of shit that he's got in the background there how dare you oh modern arts if he is afraid of modern actually looks like a skin mark like modern art is so meaningful the infinity skin mark you know there was in comics and stuff about how you put a piece of poop on a pedestal and everyone like appreciates i was like oh god we're getting close to this now like with this is this is a that's a poop painting that's a poop painting that's a poop painting online and trolls are attacking and calling out like calling it liberal feminism and saying you know it's not my star wars and people are asking for jar jar to come back now yeah because even jar jar is better than what we're getting now that's how bad it's gone that's how dire it is dude i think jar jar would be an actual like you'd have a sort of like oh look at jar jar hey are they gonna kill him yeah uh no yeah that's right yeah he'll get blown out the airlock like oh jar jar's dead cool all right do you notice he did the red neck voice in there he did the red neck voice yeah yeah out of any character that they'd be willing to kill off jar jar would be the one that would probably make me happy you know actually that that red neck thing i if you're watching a video on like it was a british person and um they were speaking you know proper sort of west minster british accent and then when they were like talking about an opinion they didn't like and they just went all cockney that would be really obvious yeah well it would be it's like oh you know uh you know tea and and uh i don't know tea and uh what what what what are other fancy british things you know oh this ain't my star wars you know oh this ain't it you know this ain't my star wars tea it'd be like oh that's uh that's a bit of a dick thing crumpets and biscuits and biscuits and stones and tea and uh and colonialism you know i've i've i've added i don't know why this has to be the case i've added catman joe to my blocked words now so i will remove it one day because who knows what it'll take us it was like molla remove catman joe in order to prevent criticism i'd be like no no um but yeah hopefully that makes it automatic eventually to give my moderators a bit of space oh thematic yeah now i i i i will be back in like 10 minutes just a heads up i'll just be off and i'll be back in like 10 minutes yeah yeah yeah yeah you bet all right shall be missed anyway i gotta pee any i gotta pee anyway so you know just you know if we're having a break i might take that opportunity i mean i guess it'll just be me and robot head chilling i'll wait until rags comes back rags rags i'll do a tag team he goes first and then he can tag me out when he comes back what are you uh are you looking to get a drink or uh bathroom yeah go go go for it it's all right it makes more sense to do it while they're doing it because then we'll all come back at the same time okay okay so robot oh no robot heads cutting out you're gonna be by yourself i can do it awesome am i cutting out am i okay can you hear me okay yes so they can't do the uh the lower class voice in Australia we've all got the lower class voice you're all a bunch of prisoners yes how is prison of life going well yeah it's good it's good we get to go to the beach and have barbecues put shrimps on the barbie which drink fosters here's a question have you read um episode nine leaks uh normally i avoid leaks even if i don't care that much just to enjoy the film but this one it's it's too much fun reading them like it's just because it's like anything goes just just i could read anything and believe that it's going to actually be in this film there's nothing too out there or too crazy yeah i don't know if i've i don't know if i've read them read them all if i'm up to date but whenever i see them it's just yeah it's too tempting to just hear what craziness they're going to come who are they going to try and bring back or who are they saying they're going to bring back or so i think the last what i heard was about um um uh laya doing the training so right which is bizarre of all the times during the training you're doing it in the finale okay with the dead actor and and does she need it she no one can beat her i think i think she's okay oh that'll be the obvious thing if she builds up in order to be kylo we're all gonna be like why it was me all along i killed kylo ren me i can imagine her turning up to a bed like i have trained i'm far more powerful than before he's just like jesus christ like my cocaine powers imagine him just being like you know what i give up i don't want to do this enough i just like how anything goes with the rumors but no one knows what actually we're going to watch this film for like well there's no we've got a point in star wars where we're like no that's too crazy they wouldn't do that that would be silly because like when we're you know return the jedi we're like you know we'll harm survive and was it really his father and all these questions we wanted answered and with this it's just like they can say anything we just have to believe it because there's no no point to even going to see this film we don't even know what's happening i can't wait for episode nine for all of us remember rags as well i feel like i'm spoiling it but people will forget by the time again but um the end of fellowship is like oh my god the potential this we we know so i know i go so much to look forward to it is like direct comparison with tlj it's like uh i don't know did anyone watch the gremlins review from red light media i did yeah what they talked about how gremlins two is like gremlins but on like steroids and loony tunes land in a good way because that's the idea that they're going for that they like have we ever seen that with like other franchises like i don't know star wars they're like oh yeah tlj is the loony tunes of the loony tunes they have more digs last jedi reviews than they did yeah it's like every video now yeah yeah they just mentioned every video i'm so happy it's almost ubiquitous with with a lot of the critical reviewers that tlj is just the the jump the shock it's the movie it's the guy too like oh you don't want to be like tlj what a disaster um i mean for you probably back soon but you guys want to we'll kick on with well if he's gonna be well if he's gonna be back soon mauler well you said he'll be gone for 10 minutes 10 full minutes you know what that is an e-fap time 13 minutes i don't actually know how did you how did you work that what was your formula and i'm like i keep my secrets to myself um well we'll play he's only gonna miss a couple of like 10 seconds uh and i love what disney is doing with star wars i bet you do in the sense like i want a star wars movie every year i think no it's not the focus at all that should be in what scale was it too early i like the idea that we're all like we want good star wars movies and he's like no no no we want star wars movie every year it's like no they could take three four five years between each one i wouldn't mind just take your time get it right you know but they also pretend that if something was fantastic it couldn't come out every six months like solo was too early you know it was it was brilliant was just too early it was the right time people didn't yeah it just wasn't they weren't ready for such a masterpiece people people just aren't ready for a black lando collision it's so interesting that you can get an idea of how good someone is at you know objective criticism based on their opinion of the last jedi if they say it's good you instantly know oh okay yeah like oh you like disney star wars okay all right so you like terrible things well i mean this is the thing i mean there are like reasons people can like it and still you know they can admit that it's a bad movie so i should i should qualify that's like i'm not saying that if you like it you don't you can't pick out the flaws in it well the interesting part comes in that if you have someone who's very critical of movies and they're like lj is you know it has its flaws but it's pretty good you're like okay and then they come to like other movies with similar flaws you like try and cross-reference and see them be like yeah but yeah that's true exactly the most common one you'll find is like yeah but tlj is a bigger movie it has bigger ideas it's talking about bigger things this movie's just crap well do people actually use that argument themes man like all about them things are you kidding because from my mind if they're saying if they're dealing with bigger themes that just means there's far more for it to fall from and to fall short of and it really did and so that just means it's even worse if you're gonna say that was supposed to be big grand and epic is like well that just means it failed harder i mean this there's a sort of like unwritten understanding from people where i guess they would be like if your theme is um uh what's it like to to be in a relationship or something like that a relationship that's one-sided it's like oh that's your theme throughout the movie that there's a lot of different characters going through that sort of um journey or story whatever and then some other film is like we're tackling the meaning of life so we're automatically bigger you know and and it's like oh it's really about how you do both of those it's not really exactly the theme doesn't mean spit it's how you execute it if they actually pull it off and address the theme in any measure of satisfaction or you know uh depict it accurately create some interesting questions and thoughts and stuff like that is it's all about execution not just the fact that you attempted it what's like in the olympics whenever you've got a diver about to attempt to dive what they're attempting to do will influence their their top potential score so the harder that dive you can do the more points you can score but the more difficult it is to point it out exactly exactly but even watching someone do a bomb can be more enjoyable watching like a really big fat dude one-leggedly hop off the thing and spin around go oh he lands into the water can be hilarious this is very true it's all about your point of reference how what you're judging it against and what the movie is meant to be or are trying to achieve and stuff because you would think it's just funny last year i tries to be serious in some moments or you know try and convey the epic themes of the other movies you know the great battle between good and evil which is so undermined by the flippant humor and bad jokes and stuff throughout the movie i mean if you're going for like an intense threat that this big you know giant ship is coming to destroy the rebel base having a pilot do what type of joke did he do against the um thing your mama your mama jokes joke classification would be under your mama oh why me i remember watching it be like you know that the because it's right at the beginning of the film so you're still like that was strange it's almost like a blip in the straight line you're just like oh that was that was unusual that they did that in this scenario just their whole you know cause rebel alliances on the verge of being destroyed and there's no they're like he's not even worried he's just like your mama as as ryan johnson said about that scene he wanted to he wanted to inject a bit of monty python that was just like money python that's why everyone loves it it's just a little hux is a comedy character didn't even thought hux was a yo is still hux is a comic character it's like how makes no sense i think solo is a little bit too early i don't i don't think that was well timed and i think they're a little learned from that but i just i see so much anger and hate and fear and fear fear like i get like you know i'm a little angry and i hate the last year i like that i and i feel that these are justified things okay but but fear i i fear for the future of entertainment and hollywood okay there you go it's justified i guess i was really confused for a second i was like afraid of what afraid of what comes next maybe maybe i don't i don't actually know jay jay said i hope you'll tell me this is just a matter of him listing like what yoda says in food episode two or three probably i don't know either oh wait episode two the whole hate leads to this leads to man age leads to honey body this is actually touching on a deeper pet peeve i have that actually is a deeper philosophical kind of idea where people instantly associate hate with bad or immoral and there's no no no no hate and most emotions in fact are neither good nor bad it's dependent on what they are focused on for instance i think it's pretty good to hate rape just just putting that out there okay no i love rape oh really love me i love me some raping how can we not reference the great philosopher boogie 298 uh at least we believe in something are you aware of this at least at least not season rapist believe in something hell is that at least not season rapists are doing something they believe in the context makes it worse he's talking about how bad internet trolls are and he says at least internet trolls aren't like not seasoned rapes exactly and he's like you guys you guys want to see the destruction of channels you don't believe it you know you're you're you're without a purpose beyond hurting people you know at least nazis and rapists they believe in something it's amazing normally the more context you apply to it the more you understand it it's the opposite with boogie the more context the worst i feel sorry for the guy he like because that is such a gaff like yeah think about what you're saying just just think a little bit um but yeah so when people say that there's too much hate in the world and we need more love it's like you like no okay hate isn't inherently a bad thing if you're hating bad things that need to be end that it's good to hate them okay hate rape hate murder hate evil okay and how about we not love you know these bad things let's not love greed let's not love rape and all those things yeah the whole it's such a shallow kind of virtuosity we need more love and there needs there's too much hate in the world it's like no and it's perfectly fine to hate a horrible movie especially if the movie is actually almost offensive in some of the ways it depicts certain things in the world and stuff i love people on twitter that say they're sick of the hate and from now on they're going to be more positive and first off you can't be on twitter you're in downtown hatred on the hate building a bit like i want to be more positive this time around yeah um yeah i was gonna say that came up with just right because he said that um he's he's evolved as a critic to the point where he's realized that if you're dealing with good content celebrate it if you're dealing with bad content try and find the good because ultimately you don't want to take people's enjoyment of the bad away because taking enjoyment out of the world is bad and it's very interesting because you're like oh what about enjoyment of you know that's why i brought up that's why i brought up the holocaust with dx right right that went well it's like what about people who enjoy the holocaust like it's a part yeah i know right just right took away took away his own job with that crap like yeah he's saying he doesn't want critics in the world like he doesn't want people to judge things but he wants a youtube channel judging things it was just such an odd well he said that he kind of um his hobbit videos where i think his big break originally and he said that if anybody stopped enjoying the hobbit films thanks to his videos that's a bad thing and whereas my position is whatever happens happens if they watch my video and their emotions have changed as a result that's what are we gonna do that's that's how things go it seems like it's there's a desire to just abandon the concept of quality like true quality what makes a movie good because if there's a bad movie you can't judge it and then establish it as bad in other people's minds because everything must be valued because someone worked on it like look i get that people participation award and everyone might admire that they try but i'd rather people try and succeed instead of try and make mediocre or bad even and the only way you can help people succeed honestly is by trying to establish what is good and what is bad i mean when i started out writing all right i needed to learn that the first stuff i wrote was absolute trash like horrible stuff okay and the only way that i could do that is by critical review honestly look and getting and getting really harsh honest feedback from other people but thank goodness that happened because then i could get a little bit better and after you know what i was like um 12 years 11 or something years of me working at it i was able to write a half decent book and actually made you know a success out of it got a good bit of mental there's a good bit of money as well i'm all just saying on the side and that was and money man being critical all right and and trying to improve and get better at stuff while but i just i can't stand this idea of it just abandoning what the uh pursuit of quality like you can't criticize it well now that you've just said that i want to be aware of a tweet from chris stuck sorry about this shad with this oh i was just thinking of these so i know what you're gonna show he was actually talking about this i'm a different person nothing personal buddy but i mean i mean i'm sure you can disagree with me on do you want to read it out for him rags all right let's do it without the filmmaker there is no film critic the filmmaker takes all the risks spending years in their life crafting something the film critic spends 90 minutes in a theater and maybe a few hours in front of a computer even when we hate a film it's good to remember that chris go fuck yourself what a worthless thing to say i mean i can kind of get that is saying you can admire the effort people put into it but if he's trying to say as a result of that you can't criticize it i was like no i doubt he's saying that yeah um it's it's relatively unclear what the overall specific statement is but i think the implication at least one of the implications i got was that um the effort to make a film is always going to be greater than the effort to make film criticism which i would disagree with so yeah well yeah i'm i'm i'd i would say sure but that's a more yeah like dare i say subjective thing because i can i guess it depends on how much effort people put into a film versus how much effort people put into technically we have a mathematical formula for work but yeah i mean you could quantify the individual review based on the individual movie to determine you get directors who turn up to set with a coffee and they're like go uh that'll be to the enough for today see you guys you know that's sort of like the lowest common denominator and then you'll have critics who are obsessed with getting every detail right who work yeah i mean production values i've no way of knowing this i've no i've knowing this but i i would hazard the assumption that perhaps i probably put in a bit more effort into my book than the script of The Last Jedi i mean when you look at the script you just wonder how much review did this go through like was this just something someone brain vomited onto a you know the screen and just say yes let's do it i i think chris should go further back without cinemas there would be no film so if your cinemas carpets covered in carbon spit in your popcorn don't complain without him he's implying it's like you know you need you need the them in order to have let's just say us for the sake of this argument the problem is that a lot of filmmakers start because of film critics yeah they're inspired and so it's this is just a really awkward tweet to me i'm just like what are you trying to say you're upset that like some critics are a little bit um i don't know up their own arse a bit maybe that it and this taking a risk thing it's like you artists create something they want to create for fun and at the worst it gets forgotten and at the best it gets rewarded and celebrate those risks there's a lot of filmmakers that make crap fucking films and then there they get more money to make more films like i just get sick of these risk taking mentality no no they want to be filmmakers they want to do something any artist that wants to do something they're meant to be doing it for the love and if they get rewarded that's great but they don't guarantee to reward interestingly all of us can definitely be a little bit pissed with that the statement that the film critic spends 19 minutes 90 minutes in the cinema and then a few hours at the computer is like maybe because we're not as lazy as you chris like i can't help but be like chris you're the dude who does that okay not all critics give a shit because he wants to be a filmmaker doesn't he yes he does actually yes yeah that's all right he's just setting up future when people come at him but he'd criticize things this is he's laying the groundwork for a it's his safety net to say well come on no i was on the filmmaker side all along he's made two shorts if any of them are released publicly or at least available to sell we'll totally do any fat movies like let's test it out i tell you what that i tell you i just to give i guess a perspective from the other side um when my book released there was no point in my life where i felt more emotionally vulnerable than at that time and it was it was a eye-opening experience because when you do make something that you put your blood sweat tears into and then it is open to the like just you know everyone's thoughts the whole world is now open to criticize it and stuff oh boy yeah it's a nervous it is a nerve-wracking experience the problem is that when you get criticism of really high production value it essentially converts into a new form of creativity like a product or a that's true and when i was saying that i'm not saying therefore people should not criticize people's works or even my work because that's hand-in-hand that's part of the thing it's an in-factual fact that's an essential part of creating something and trying to create something good because if you did make something bad you do need to know about it and it's when people give you the feedback that you know and uh i was lucky because the book is done really well but that doesn't mean it's flawless people have been able to point out things that i could do better it's like all right now i know when i'm writing the next book i know certain things that i can improve on and i'm better for it um so yeah like yeah i just i guess it'd be hard to it's never occurred to me ever to be like but i put so much work into it but i work so long on it you must love it because i worked so hard on it that's no that's not right it's just insane i that's never even coming to my mind as a defense it's like but i work so hard respect the fact that i took all those hours to make something like the the work that you put into it is is basically irrelevant it's just whatever the final product is that's important you'd appreciate commitment if you want to i mean it's up to the person judging i guess but when you're trying to specifically judge the final product how much time it took to make it is only going to be relevant to arguments in relation to how much time took to make it if you know what i mean like it's sometimes the all amount of effort you know well for example like if you look at something that has really bad special effects i just read something in chat sorry i just read something chat where someone said hitlow worked really hard too that's correct yeah um yeah i was gonna say when you look at like really really old um low budget movies or something and you find out like certain things just couldn't be done um people like automatically expect you to take that into consideration in terms of you can't say it's bad because there was never a chance of them being doing anything else or something it would just be well i mean in that instance you could say well it was good for its time but because quality standards have improved if you're measuring it against the standards we have in the modern day i'm sorry it doesn't hold up i think that's fair to say i think that it all matters with uh contextualizing a little bit and i just don't like the implication that critics aren't creating here i say it art themselves when i watched the blink of videos on the prequels back in the day i was like holy shit this is a new type of of like criticism video i have i watched it like a movie i was like what is going on here this is weird i was entertained it was funny it had like a through line like a narrative and i love the character and the stupid skits like i was like what is happening you know it's got this is going beyond just um recording a vlog we're like yeah i thought the movie was cool i like some of these bits i didn't like some of these bits like this is a full on art form now and then he gets critics there'll be people responding like what we're doing right now like that's what e-fap is it's holding the critics to a critical light and we all get the same thing and so could you then make the argument that like hey critic critics couldn't exist without critics so you know the critic takes all the risk by putting the controversial opinion out there and trying to get the right accurate information and order it all up and get the maybe guests or production values all straight all you have to do is watch their video and then record a vlog for 90 minutes where you just say oh i didn't like it yeah yeah it also seems to be a bit of a misplace of value saying you know uh critics wouldn't exist without the filmmakers or no the film wouldn't be successful without critics being willing to judge it hopefully on an objective stand and be able to tell other people if it's good or not i mean like a lot of people rely on the critical response depending on which not the rotten tomato score but the audience score and so just but like if you find someone you trust their opinion and they're able to say hey this is a good movie you might want to check it out that adds value and that lets me know of something that's good for me to watch that i didn't know previous to it and that has tremendous value you could say movies rely on that kind of thing sometimes good word of mouth but they move the goalposts so much all every one of these guys that wants to sit here and talk about hate and the haters will go to a screening of the room and cheer and clap and laugh and have a good time i think yeah but those are our bad movies first of all we'll probably say like you do have to appreciate the toby waso did try to make a movie put a lot of effort there i should be like chris come on dude come on yeah like they're not standing up you know screaming at the crowd stop laughing this is a you put a lot of effort into this you know so it all comes down to what films they like whether you're allowed to laugh and join in or not it seems to also be like a um extension of the cultural thing where you can't have any losers okay in a race everyone's a winner okay because you can't make people feel bad and stuff kind of yeah and didn't chris dogman rip into the prequels as well we couldn't we just make the argument back to him it's possible he's laughing at bad films too so i like exactly i really appreciated his review on robin hood where he just openly said it's a crap movie and i was like good when you see crap point it out like how could you they took time on that makes you wonder what time like gosh the dark side has taken over star wars fandom i'm serious the only people i really enjoy talking about star wars with now are women fans that are into it now okay because all women are the same i thought he said there was a great man out there that was interesting there you're not getting laid dude what i have sex is tea just thinks they were all the same i don't see the connection of what he was talking about one thing and then now i could only talk about star wars with fee with women are you saying there's not one guy on the planet that shares your same views about star wars yeah he must have a lot of guy friends who may have seen this video and been like dude hell this is crap i thought we were friends man well i guess that's gotta be a good help thing as well like i could already talk about stars with women these days that is so loaded in many ways what he just said then if he is implying that only like only men dislike this movie and if the movie is legitimately bad is kind of implying without realizing that men are looking at this movie objectively and women are incapable or the women he knows are incapable of looking at this movie objectively because they like it and men don't is that what is saying well he's gonna develop this i'm i'm i'm beyond curious um they could be old fans or or new fans you think you think you like talking about star wars with anna oh he probably hate talking about it with her she's not the wrong i guess she's just the wrong kind of woman i guess imagine she like explains all the problems with it that he goes but you're you're actually a trans i wonder if it from his perspective because it seems like he likes star wars and last year i said he loves what disney is doing with it and so he might be thinking he's making a big compliment to women is you know virtue singling again because it seems like women they get it they understand the why this movie is good and men don't say ergo women smart men stupid is that what he's saying i i mean i'd have to wait for him to actually get close to something like that i assume he's saying men are being too toxic i that's the way that people like to use we'll see oh yeah he's pick up line like is he is he trying to pick up with this does he think someone's got a touchy touching because of this touch they put a hand on his shoulder and he's like it happened it happened dear tyree today i got the touch it was everything that they said it would be it's exciting i get to like talk about characters and it's fun and it's like oh this cool like metaphor that you could look at or dissect this it's like oh yeah sweet like this is a lot of fun but i there are plenty of guys do it go talk to pop culture exactly or jack say the whole there's plenty of go talk to these beta males the premise here is undefined it's totally undermined by the fact that i have fun with my movie there are guys that share his same opinion and girls who viciously disagree with them and hate the movie too so like it's that's debunked from the get go here yeah majorly eric taxon as people that patricia taxon i find that when i'm talking with um some guys in the real world uh you know at a comic book store or when i read comments on the internet or twitter or whatever and it's just so negative all the time and you guys love the film this is bullshit you would think like i'm starting to like get the impression though that most people seem to dislike it like the larger majority have caught on to that yeah this movie is just trash there are there are there are chambers dare i say echo chambers filled with thousands of people who adore the film if i was to be completely honest i still think it's pretty divided i don't i don't know about 50 50 but but in my experience yeah tlg because the comparison i always try and bring up is uh season eight game of thrones nobody liked it as far as i can tell the few outliers sure but that's one where i would be like it's like 95 percent oh a tlg 60 40 is probably as far as i would go in terms of hate love well maybe it's my own echo chamber yeah like this is kind of just the impression that i get from interacting with my own audience and uh most of my the sorry the subscribers on my channel don't like it there are a few that do but most certainly seem to just despise the movie but i don't know maybe people who like swords are i think he said talking star wars is people like on twitter that absolutely hate last jedi but then they'll get on to the ot and be talking about old characters and the books and and loving it you know and getting right into it so like he said you know he can't talk about star wars at all to any man like do you know it's one film that we mostly hate how many men as he talked to is it like three and they were all from like a same group of people were they us it's just this podcast it's like fine dude it's all hating and ruining star wars so critical and it's always like comparing it to what you used to have and you know yeah weird we do that when it's you know a sequel can you believe that yeah but moller it's only a sequel if you interpret it to be a sequel we might be covering that next week unless was that from his video on you was that i can't remember anymore i think that was his own video well act no that thing that was his video on me yeah only a sequel if you and ironically said that have you heard that one right uh sorry uh shad have you heard that one i haven't i it's only a brain is probably still there you would interpret it was that one person saying that yeah it was quintan reviews oh no professional film critic yeah no it's such a like i kind of even if i told like the average person that i imagine they'd be like i mean the implication of that stand you hadn't seen the others watching it on its own and trying to figure what the fuck was going on yeah the implication of that statement is essentially objective reality doesn't exist then because you can interpret it and then everything is valid and so interpreters like no no there is an objective reality i mean there is objective truth oh yeah well cast is the cast that's insane it really is insane you just the more you think about it the more is that's a head scratcher right there oh yeah that's the kind of that's the kind of thought you just you just sit in the shower and think about for a few hours did you see weird tweet about himself where he was kind of like i'm he implies that he's better than the quartering didn't need to leave that oh did he i'm i'm i'm i'm back hello for you oh for 10 minutes mate update me what happened yeah well in the 10 minutes you absolute plague doctor why how long how long was it like 25 at least oh okay sorry disgusting what what what i miss we were just talking about quintons hot take that his videos are better than the quartering i mean first off first off like why the fuck would you make a meme about yourself that's positive that's just you don't do that did even i don't know if he made the lead but he definitely self posted it so it's just like oof well he shouldn't have done that that's fucking stupid i'll try and find a few no i made a tweet i think i suppose he's gonna make a meme with so many levels yeah going back to that concept right that um that the whole subjective verse objective thing i think it's it could be a matter of people just not really trying to break down what certain you know concepts mean when they say everything is subjective i think there there's a there's a misunderstanding something the truth that could be found in that is that no everything can be looked upon in a subjective manner but that doesn't mean everything is subjective or undermine the objective reality of certain things and so the statements can exist correctly together in the sense that everything is actually objective there is an objective truth that undermines nearly everything that i can think of and those objective standards can be viewed upon in a in a subjective way and so everything can be viewed in a subjective way but that doesn't mean the objective truth is subjective that's the disconnect and that's what i think people are like taking the the concept that everything can be seen in a subjective way then they take it way too far and say everything is subjective it's like no no stop misunderstanding this concept okay well i mean how who the fuck actually believes that everything is subjective is like the the real question that i have when i hear this stuff like nobody believes that nobody deep down believes that like everybody knows that's bullshit i know yeah it's it makes me half want to go up and slap someone and they say you slapped me i was like not from my subjective point no no my opinion like what what you define as a slap i disagree with what i did was a global opinion look and that's what i did and that's my opinion that's a good thing and that's my opinion and you can't take that away from me it's like yeah this is not how the universe works there are things that just are an aunt like i don't know what to say it is written in history as a permanent fact that i just slapped you i can't fucking you know it's like okay there's gravity i can't just like will myself to fly like it's not that attitude i'm not captain mark well i'm not captain marvel but like you know it it's like okay so what does that tell us gravity works in such and such a way something that i would like to do i cannot do it's impossible it and that's not my opinion it's not my judgment it's just the way it is and everybody knows that everybody believes these things like nobody believes that everything is subjective well an interesting kind of qualifier to try and understand the whole argument and i didn't mean to derail us onto this but i blame mohler because he brought up the statement like oh dear not on that pretend like fringy you're standing five meters away from me and in between us is a wooden cut out of the letter six now i push it over and so when i look at it on the ground it is the letter six but you're five meters away from me when you look at it it is the letter nine okay and then if you say this is the letter nine this is an objective fact and i look at you say no this is the letter six that's an objective fact these two statements are both objectively correct but they're based on our different perspective and that's i think is a very key point people need to try and figure out and realize is what is the perspective that someone is uh using to base their judgment upon because if you can figure that out you can then figure out the objective standard and what the idea is that those are two objective standards that contradict one another but are both correct based on a different perspective chat wants to tell you that those are numbers not letters yeah i uh i thought i i thought i thought you were going somewhere i was objectively wrong i had no no just say subjective like i i uh i thought you were going somewhere with that because you said the letter six and i was about to interrupt like uh oh maybe this is part of maybe i didn't say that i was doing 3d chess right there um but yeah no the whole idea with uh the whole idea without analogy of six and nine is what we're trying to do is establish a common basis from which we can view you know media storytelling so that we have like a common understanding of what it is and once we establish the baseline we can go forward from there and the baseline should just be like what is a story what is a plot like what are characters things like that exactly and people seem to take the thing that because there are two different perspectives you can look and therefore judge something by those it's all subjective and you can't officially establish whether this number is a six or nine it's like no you absolutely can just figure out what the standard is the perspective you're judging it by then absolutely but people don't seem to just follow the logic through and they say no i think the sun is a hot tart and that's my opinion uh thios asked a couple of times he's asking what does everything is subjective mean and i'm assuming both of you agree with this but the idea that there is nothing that is that is definitive everything is up in the air everything is no element of any discussion of anything in the entire world because the english language was created by people language communication terms were created by peo