Hi guys, thank you for coming back to my channel. This is Meks from the Meks Creation TV. We are still looking at the Ugandan personalities, the machineries that represented the country in the Tokyo Olympics 2020. The people that have made the country so proud. And in today's video we are going to look at the 10,000 bronze medalists in the Tokyo 2020. Having concurrently participated in the 10,000 meter race, Jaco Kibrimo managed to win a bronze medal for the country in the 10,000 meters. Let us get through a brief background of his personality, his acumen and his start of the journey of love distance. Thank you so much for joining me. Jaco Kibrimo, born on November 14, 2000, is a Ugandan long distance runner, who competed in the track running events, is the 2020-22 half marathon world champion. He represented his country in the 2016 Summer Olympics. Jaco Kibrimo, born on November 14, 2000, is a Ugandan long distance runner, who competed in the track running events, is a Ugandan long distance runner, who competed in the track running events, is the 2020-22 half marathon world champion. Jaco Kibrimo, born on November 14, 2000, 2019 Doha, 10,000 meters Olympic Final 2016 Rio de Janeiro, 5,000 meters, 26 2020 Tocho, 10,000 meters Bronze Personobes, 3,000 meters That was at 7 minutes, 26 At 7, 26 7 minutes, 26 microseconds Rome, 20,000 5,000 meters Ostrava, 2020 10,000 meters Ostrava, 2021 10 kilometers 10 kilometers That is 26,41 World Junior Championship Madrid, 20,28 Half marathon 57,37 Valencia, 2020 Medo record Olympics 2020 Tocho, 10,000 meters He gets a bronze medal World Junior Championship 2018 Tampala, 10,000 meters Silver 2016 Bodikista 10,000 meters He got a bronze medal World Cross Championship That is Arthus Senior Team Gold medal 2017 Kampala Junior Race 2019 Arthusia Senior Race Silver medal World Half Marathon Championship 2020 Gidinia In the video Gold medal 2020 Gidinia team Bronze medal 2017 Ayiv World Cross Junior Champion 2017 Ayiv World Cross Junior Champion 2017 Ayiv World Cross Junior Champion 2019 He became the world cross country Silver medalist At the age of 18 Thank you so guys For tuning back to my channel For those that For those that are new here Please consider subscribing to this channel For always the updates Regarding the Olympics On the Uganda national team That represent the country in the Tocho 20 Olympics For those with the comments Please take in the sub section below I'll be more than glad I'm happy to get back to you Thanks so much for tuning to my channel Thanks for watching Please Let me know your views Share and comment in the sub section below I worries be more than happy To get back to you By the way Do not forget to watch my next videos And do not forget to subscribe to this channel Thank you See you again


All right, good morning, everyone. Let's begin, actually, with a word of prayer. So we only have a few people on the screen. If any one of you could please unmute and just commit this entire session into the Lord's hands, we can then begin. If any one person can just unmute and pray for us committing our class into the Lord's hands. Amen. Thank you so much, Divya. Yes, let's begin our class. If you remember last week, we completed most of Ephesians chapter six. There was just a small portion left. There were a couple of pieces of armor, of the spiritual armor in Ephesians chapter six that we could not cover. So we will spend a few minutes looking into that. And then after that, we will begin with the letter to the Philippine church. So if you remember, last time we covered five pieces of armor from Ephesians chapter six. And we started the sword of the spirit, but we could not complete the explanation for that. So we looked that this is a sword of the spirit. So it is through the spirit that we wield this weapon. It is through the enabling of the spirit that we are able to use this weapon in an effective manner. We also saw that when that term sword is used in the Greek Bible, it talks about a double edged sword. So it's a sword that is sharp on both sides. And we also looked at how this sword is used with the help of the Holy Spirit, how it is used in two ways, to prepare ourselves for warfare and to be able to take a stand against Satan and not budge. So the first aspect that we saw was that the sword of the spirit, we first of all use it on ourselves. We use it to clean up ourselves on the inside to attack the impurities that need to be got rid of. Because once we are right with God, then we can use this weapon effectively against the evil one. So we looked at Hebrews chapter 4 verses 12 to 13, where we are told that the word of God is alive and active. So this is not just words that were written centuries ago. This is a word of God, which is alive and active even today, even though the original letter writer is dead, but that words which he wrote in that letter, which were inspired by the Holy Spirit, that Holy Spirit is very much alive and active. So through him, these words gain power. So this word of God, when we meditate upon it, when we reflect upon it, it works like a double edged sword. And what does it do? In Hebrews chapter 4, we are told verse 12, we are told, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. So when this kind of a sword was used in those days in Biblical times, especially to maybe cut open an animal, maybe a sacrificial animal. So the sword is used to cut the animal at its various joints so that the lower part of the leg is broken from the upper portion of the leg. So you basically use the sword to cut the animal at various points where you have the joints. So the knife, the sword, after it has cut the different bones, sometimes this sword was also used to hit the bone itself. Let me explain this better. When you cut the bone at a certain point, you not only get to see the bone, you also get to see what's inside the bone. I mean, what is there at the core at the center of the bone gets exposed. So as long as the bone is whole, we cannot see the inside. But when you take the sword and you cut that bone at the joints, it exposes the marrow, which is there at the center of the bone. So what was hidden during the entire lifetime of the animal is now exposed to the human eye. And that is the point which is actually being made over here because in Hebrews chapter 4 verse 13 it says, nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. So the word of God, it penetrates us, it divides soul and spirit, it exposes what is right inside because in our soulish, unrenewed minds, we may still have wrong attitudes, wrong motives. But this word of God, it acts like a sword. It cuts right through so that what is there at the center, that soulish, unrenewed aspects which are still there at the center, they are exposed. And so in that sense, it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. And so in verse 13 it says, nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account. So the first thing we do is we use this word of the spirit on ourselves to find out what is actually there at the core of our soul. What are the motives that are lying over there? What are the attitudes with which we are walking with God? And so when the wrong things which are there, the impurities which are there are exposed, then we can repent, we can get right with God. And then when we are in a right relationship with God, when we use this sword of the spirit against the evil one, there is great power. Because you're not just quoting words at the devil, you actually are living out those words in your life. So you have the entire full backing of the Holy Spirit.  So you see how important it is to firstly use it upon ourselves and to cleanse ourselves. Once we have done that, this word of God becomes a powerful weapon in our hands. So in 2 Corinthians chapter 10 verses three to five, this is basically how, you know, warfare, spiritual warfare is described. So if someone could please go to 2 Corinthians chapter 10 and read out for us verses three to five, 2 Corinthians 10 verses three to five, please. Although we walk in the flesh, we do not walk according to the flesh. For the weapons of our worst, warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds. And then verse five. Casting down arguments and every high things that exiled itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ. Yes, thank you. So we see here in verse five, we are told that this weapon, this word of God, it can demolish arguments that have been set up against the knowledge of God. So God's word says something. God is setting certain standards and making certain statements, but Satan comes with other arguments, which try to lead us away from the truth of God's word, the truth of the knowledge of God, like he did in the case of Adam and Eve.  And what is the argument that Satan raised? He said, no, you will not die. So he set up an argument which went against what God is saying. It went against the knowledge of God. And so when Satan brings such arguments in the form of temptations or in the form of doubts which he wants to create in our minds, in the form of wrong teachings that he wants to sow into our hearts. So when he comes with all of these wrong thoughts and teachings and arguments and wants to set himself up against the knowledge of God, what do we do? We can use the sword of the spirit to demolish those arguments and forcibly cause those wrong teachings and those wrong temptations to bow down in obedience to Christ. So this is something that we can do through the word of the spirit. And the usual example that is given for this is from Matthew chapter four where Jesus uses scriptures to defeat the evil one when he is tempted. So maybe we can just look at one of those temptations, maybe the first temptation. So if again, if someone could go to Matthew chapter four and read out for us the first four verses, Matthew four, one to four, please. Then Jesus was fed up by the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. And when he had fasted 40 days and 40 nights afterward, he was hungry. Now, when the tempted came to him, he said, if you are the son of God, come on, these tongues become bread. But he uncertainly said, it is written, men shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that pushes from the mouth of God. All right, so here, what is this tempter? What's the wrong argument with which the tempter is coming over here in this particular scenario? He says to Jesus, if you are the son of God, tell these stones to become bread. Okay, basically he's saying, now look at you, you're sitting over here in the wilderness all alone, no shops nearby, no food supply anywhere around. You've been fasting for 40 days and 40 nights, your fasting time is now finished, you're really hungry, you're waiting for God to provide you with food because there are no trees available, no fruits available, there are no crops where Jesus can go into the fields and maybe take some grain and eat that, there's nothing. Either God provides him with food or he stays foodless. So he's in that state.  So if you are the son of God, prove it. Prove it to me by turning these stones into bread, that way you'll be able to establish that yes, you are the son of God and also you'll get to eat. So that's basically the temptation which the tempter is bringing. This is the argument that he is presenting and this argument is set up against the knowledge of God, the true knowledge of God. What is the truth over here in this case? Jesus has been sent to the earth to be fully human so that he can be our representative. If he chooses to use his divinity whenever he feels like it, then he will not be human, fully human like us. We humans, we have no divinity. So when we are in a tight spot, we can't just simply use our divine powers to get out of that particular situation. So Jesus has come over here to the earth having made the decision that he's going to lay aside his divinity and not make use of it. And here the tempter is saying, use your divine powers. Prove to me that you are the son of God. And so Jesus says, it is written, man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. God the father has sent him over here to be our human representative by being fully and completely and totally human and helpless and completely dependent on God the same way we are. So he cannot just simply access his divine powers and turn those stones into bread. He would be going against the word of God if he did that. And so he says, it's not really bread which I need to live. What I really need is every word that comes from the mouth of God. If I feed on that and if I do that and obey that, that will give me life. So that's a statement that Jesus makes. And he's not just saying that quotation because it's a nice quotation. He literally has meditated upon it, reflected upon that truth, absorbed it into his life, made that part of his daily living. And so when he speaks out that verse, it has the full conviction of what he believes. And so now the tempter cannot tempt him because Jesus is saying, this is the truth. And I'm speaking of the truth and demolishing your argument to pieces. So in what way are you gonna tempt me? I'm not tempted by this wrong temptation, this wrong argument which you have brought. So in that way, Jesus has forced this wrong thought, this wrong teaching to submit to the true knowledge of God. Okay, in that way, Jesus has wielded the weapon of the sword of the spirit in this particular case. Now why did Jesus use this particular verse? I mean, there are so many verses in the Bible. Why did he choose this particular verse? There's no explanation given in Matthew chapter four as to why Jesus used this particular verse. So, but then we know that this is a quotation from the Old Testament. So if we go to the Old Testament and look at the background, then we get a clear understanding of why he used this particular passage. You know, it can help us understand how we can use the word of God in our own situations as a sword to fight the temptations which Satan brings. So if we could have someone go to the Old Testament, go to Deuteronomy chapter eight verses two to five. Let's look at that because then we get a very clear idea of why Jesus used this particular passage. Why he quoted that particular line and why it was so effective in demolishing the argument which Satan tried to bring. So Deuteronomy chapter eight verses two to five, please. Every commandment, which I command you today, you must be careful to observe that you may leave and multiply and go in and possess the land of which the Lord sought your Father. Are you sure? Just a moment, please. Brother, just a moment. Are you in Deuteronomy chapter eight verses two to five? Yes. You remember that the Lord your God led you all the way these 40 days in the wilderness to humble you and test you to know what you was in your heart, whether you would keep his commandments or not. So he humbled you, allowed you to hunger and fed you with manner which you did not know or did not did your father's know that he might make you know that man shall not live by bread alone but man live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Your garments did not wear out on you nor did your foot swell these 40 years. You shall know in your heart that a man chattains his son so the Lord your God chastens you. Amen. Amen. I mean, look at the parallel between what Jesus is experiencing right now in the wilderness and what the Israelites experienced back then in the same wilderness setting many, many centuries earlier. So in the Deuteronomy eight passage we see that God did not have any struggle in producing food for the people. I mean, it was the easiest thing for him to provide food but the reason that he withheld food sometimes is to humble and test them in order to know what was in their heart which is so that's the only reason that he withheld food from them on certain occasions and it explains in Deuteronomy eight verse three it says the reason that he did this is so that people will realize you know it's not just that manna which falls down from heaven which is going to sustain them if they hold on to the word of God and obey every word that he is saying that will sustain them because he is the source of the manna and every word that he is speaking is literally food for them. So God wanted them to know this that is why it says in verse three God caused you to hunger to teach you that man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of the Lord. So whether the manna is there or the manna is not there God is always there his words are always there and if you stand on his words the manna will automatically follow the food will automatically follow and so it goes on to provide further evidence of how this is true. You see their clothes did not wear out their feet did not swell those 40 years. Why? Because it was the word of God that was sustaining them and then in verse five it says the reason that God withheld food on certain occasions is because he was trying to teach them something. You know there's a lesson there's an important principle life principle that God wanted to teach and so it says in verse five the reason that God disciplines in this manner is because he considers people these people his children. And so Jesus understood that I mean right from a young age even as God began to teach him he understood that he is now learning firsthand all the things you know which we humans have been taught by God. You know like in Hebrews five eight it says the son though he was he learned obedience from what he suffered it says about Jesus. So by going through these sufferings on earth Jesus was learning firsthand what obedience feels like. You know I mean he being the living word who has existed from eternity he was sitting on his throne and he gave his word to the Israelites he told them do this don't do this he give the commands but now as a human being he was learning firsthand what it feels like to obey those commandments what it feels like to make those sacrifices what it feels like to see nothing in the natural and continue to hold on simply by faith you know through spiritual sight if you look through your physical eyes it's just wilderness all around no food supply no help no assistance so you got to look in or no into your inner person into your into your spiritual you know being into who you are as a spiritual person and look at spiritual truths which cannot be seen through physical eyes Jesus was learning all of this firsthand he was learning obedience through suffering he was learning what obedience feels like what it involves the faith that it takes all of that he was learning so Jesus even has seen he was probably waiting over there after 40 days of fasting and the food has not arrived yet and he is hungry at that time he probably was thinking about this passage and he was reminded how his heart was now being tested to know what is there in it you know because God disciplines his son like it says in Deuteronomy 8.5 Jesus was now being disciplined he was being tested to find out what is in his heart and Jesus remembered that in the passage what was the teaching that was being brought out that man does not live on bread alone but on every word so you see there's a lot of background to what Jesus said he didn't just quote a verse he had taught about that verse he had looked at how that verse applies to his circumstances he had absorbed that teaching and now fully knowing what the truth of God's word is regarding this particular matter you know having understood that with all the power that that word contains he speaks it out against Satan he demolishes the argument which Satan tried to build and now Satan has no way to stand I mean you know once you say that I know the truth and I'm not going to believe your lies he's helpless he has to leave so he leaves of course he comes back again with other temptations but Jesus is able to overcome the temptation by quoting the word of God so this is what we do we spend time every day in the presence of God meditating on the scriptures allowing the Holy Spirit to teach us beautiful truths and then he shows us how to apply those truths in our own lives in our own situations so then one day when the tempter comes and he comes with a very nice sounding argument but you who have spent you know time at the feet of the Holy Spirit now you know your scriptures you know the knowledge of God the true knowledge of God so then in that moment of temptation you lift up that sword of the Spirit you lift up those truths which you have learned and you declare them to Satan you know so it's not just a nice verse that you're quoting at Satan Satan knows the verses by heart what you are doing is you're standing on that word the truth of it and declaring and saying you know Satan what you're saying your argument it's crooked it's corrupted let me tell you what the truth is and you declare that truth Satan has no way to stand he has to leave because you're refusing to get tempted you're saying no I know the truth I'm not going to be deceived so now he can't deceive you and he has to leave of course he'll come back with some other strategy on the next day but for now you have won a victory and the Lord is very pleased that you chose to believe his word and you chose to take a stand on his word so after Jesus you know has gone through these temptations the angels they come they bring the food and you know and they minister to him is what we read so this is how we use the sword of the Spirit now some people generally stop over here you know with at verse 17 and they think that the spiritual armor is complete but then now you know a lot of teachers are recognizing that verse 18 is also talking about another part of the spiritual armor which is basically the weapon of prayer now what they say is that when you consider the armor which the Roman soldier used to wear he not only had all these other pieces of armor which are mentioned by Paul he also used to carry a spear you know the spear is that long, thin it's a kind of a long stick or pole and then you have the sharp knife attached to it so sometimes when the army is still when the enemy is still coming towards you from Afar what would the Roman soldier do if he has a strong army a strong arm and if his aim is really good he can lift up that spear and fling it into the air and because he is strong and his aim is good the spear flies through the air and pierces the enemy long before he has actually even reached so it's like a long distance missile that can be released it's something like that prayer works like that when the enemy is still far off before the attack has actually approached you can attack beforehand in prayer claim the victory in prayer and so when the final event actually happens there's no power in the event at all because you already, you know cancelled out the danger, the harm which that event could bring upon you it's already been cancelled out through prayer let's look at an example of this in verse 18 it says praying always with all prayer and supplication because there are so many different kinds of prayer so you use all of those different types of prayer and supplication in the spirit through the enabling of the Holy Spirit you use all these different kinds of prayer and supplication so that you can be watchful so you pray and prepare yourself in this manner being very, very watchful because you know temptation will come one day or the other and you not only pray for yourself it says in verse 18 Ephesians chapter 6 verse 18 it says also supplication for all the saints so not only do you pray for yourself you pray for the others and in this way you prepare and attack beforehand from a distance itself and we see the example of this in the case of Jesus praying for Peter Luke 22 verses 31 and 32 this is what the Lord says to Simon you know the temptation which Simon is going to face has not yet come that is still in the future but Jesus says to him Simon, Simon indeed Satan has asked for you that he may sift you as wheat but I have prayed for you Jesus is saying I've already used the spear I've already thrown the spear it's already been taken care of so the Lord says I have prayed for you that your faith should not fail and when you have returned to me strengthen your brethren so in prayer Jesus had already won the victory for Peter that Peter should not be crushed by what's going to happen that he should not end up the way Judas Iscariot ended up that even though he would be deeply broken after having betrayed even though there would be so many thoughts in his mind after that event he would come back he would hold on to the faith he would be restored so this is something that Jesus used the spear of prayer to achieve beforehand even before the attack came so you see what a powerful piece of armor this is I mean if we were to talk about all the other pieces of armor and leave out this it would be a very, very sad so prayer is also one of the important pieces of armor that you can use to fight even before the event takes place in prayer you're preparing yourself and you're preparing the other believers and saying Lord we know that temptation is going to come we know that persecution is going to come at that time O Lord we need to be strong and not budge we need to stand and stay firm so we pray to you O Lord strengthen us prepare us and so you spend time in prayer preparing yourself and without your knowledge there are strongholds coming down in the spiritual realm and so finally when that event takes place where the temptation comes or the attack happens or the persecution is precipitated at that time there's no power left in that because the battle has already been won in prayer when you have when you've launched that spear of prayer that time itself in the spiritual realm the victory was won and so no damage occurs when the physical event finally takes place so after having said this this is what Paul says in verse 19 he says pray also for me such a sweet thing you know I mean he's talked about the armor and he's talked about how you know you can use all kinds of prayer and supplication to prepare yourself so he says please if you could use this piece of armor for me please pray for me and what does he want prayer for he says so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel and he repeats it once again in verse 20 he says pray that I may declare it fearlessly Paul was just a human like all of us I mean he had the same emotions as all of us he was as scared of getting beaten up as you know we are it's not like he was you know he was fearless he was as fearful as all of us so he says I need prayer if you guys can pray for me and intercede for me so that you know when the time of persecution comes when that time of stronger position comes then I will not get scared and run away but rather I will take my stand and fearlessly declare the mystery of the gospel and of course you know we've talked about what the mystery of the gospel is it's basically that the Gentiles are equal with the Jewish believers and that the Gentiles also have been invited into the kingdom of God that they too have all the inheritance which which has been one for us in Christ Jesus and so there was a lot of opposition in the early church for this because the Jews were against the Gentiles and they regarded the Gentiles as inferior so at that time whenever Paul would go anywhere and start talking about this there would be serious persecution serious opposition a lot of arguing so to have to face such situations he needed people to back him up in prayer so that he would have the guts to be able to do that so he says please use this weapon on my behalf and pray for me as well is what he says so these are the different pieces of armor which we are supposed to use so that we can take a stand and after all the attacking which Satan has done after he goes away defeated we'll still be standing not having budged not having fallen not having given way but still standing there faithful to the Lord victorious so these are the pieces of spiritual armor that we are meant to use on a daily basis in our own spiritual walk so yeah I'll just discontinue this recording so that we can start Philippines with a new video


Hi everybody, Joe for jaspyscasebrakes.com. I hope everyone's being safe out there. Jaspy's 20 box Wildcat football mixer is coming at ya. So take a break from the craziness and join our group breaks on jaspyscasebrakes.com. Hang in there everybody. We'll get through it. We're also giving that away, which is pretty cool. There's all the boxes in here. There you go. There you have it, all right. Big thanks to all of these folks right here. I know Zach Proshan has been waiting the longest. And he's here watching live right now. Thanks Zach. Congrats to all of the winners right here. Last spot mojo for Mr. Phillips right there. We appreciate all the people who bought their spots straight up or tried in those little mini breaks. We appreciate that and congrats again to the winners. All teams are in. Let's roll it, let's randomize it. Two and a one, three times for each list. Your name first, one, two, and three. After three times, we've got Josh down to Derek. Three times for the teams. One, two, and good luck. Third and final time. Falcons, the dirty birds down to the Denver Broncos, my rivals as a Raiders fan. All right, so Josh with the Falcons. Zach with the Jets, Tanner with the Titans. Colton with the Rams. Zach with the Boys. Scott P with the Bucks. Stephen K, you got the Colts. Jacob with the Browns. Tanner with the Bears. Ryan with the Texans. Josh with the Steelers. Gerald with my Raiders. Nice, Adam with the Jags. Jeremy with the Redskins. Jose, you've got the Chiefs. Ryan with the Bills. Asa with the Niners. Matt Hedges with the Bengals. JC with the Seahawks. Anthony with the Saints. Brian with the Ravens. Martin with the Vikings. Adam Kuperman, you got the Panthers and the Cardinals. Brian Zeller with the Packers. David Baker with the Patriots. Gordon, you got the Dolphins with Last Bot Mojo. John Loverty with the Fly Eagles. Fly, Adam with the Lions. Zach Proshin with the New York Football Giants. Kevin with the Chargers. Derek with the Broncos. And that is, there you go. All right, I'm gonna pause the video. I'm gonna actually advertise this by team right here. I'm gonna pause the video, allow a few minutes for trades. And remember, trade at your own risk and be smart, be sharp. Remember the different years that are in this mixer right here. Here's another look at it again. Some old gala as well. Think about your rookie class is what you could potentially get. And if you have a bad break, remember you can still win that too. All right, so I'm gonna pause the video when we come back. We're gonna see if there's any trades and then the break, stick around. All right, welcome back everybody. A lot of trade chatter, but in the end no deals were done unfortunately. Oh, this is what we're giving away at the end as well. So if you think you got a bad randomizer, although you never know. But if you think you got a bad randomizer, you end up having a bad break. Guess what? You still have a shot at this nice dual autograph. Old Florida guys, Tim Tebow, Emmett Smith, right there. So don't despair just yet. It'll be a giveaway, different dice roll at the end. Big thanks again to all these people right here. There you go. And a little more room here. So I'm gonna slide some of these boxes. You can see on the top camera, I counted all the 20 boxes, they're all there. All right, let's start with, let's get these elite packs out of the way. Now we'll have our shipping team take a look at where all these autographs go, if any. And they're all in their collegiate gear. I don't remember if there's a checklist for this, but if there's no checklist, it'll go to the team that they are currently on or the team they played for the longest. If they're inactive or retired for some reason. But we'll have our shipping team take a look at that. Just in the interest of time we're gonna breeze by these as quickly as we can. That's very impossible to open. I think they were not meant for speed ripping. Most people are probably buying these one at a time off hangers. We will have an autograph and relic recap at the end.  So you don't have to. Just scroll all the way to the end of the video. And then you'll see me start to do a recap and then you'll know where it is. All right, good luck everybody. First, group of boxes here, group of packs. Obviously all of these rookie cards will ship. Die cuts will ship. Really looking for some of the, remember these are retail packs, so you can't really expect too much out of these, but if we can find a sneaky auto in here too, that would be awesome. Like that one, like Keith Kelsey. Not sure where Keith Kelsey goes, but our team will look that up and make sure it goes to the right place. Remember, if there's no checklist, it'll go to the team that they're currently on or the team they played for the longest if they're inactive. Probably some of these guys, I think a lot of these guys might be like practice squad guys who never made it, so it'll go to the team they were just last associated with. We'll find a home for them. Make sure it gets somewhere. Checklist services we use, groupbreakchecklist.com. We've got Speedy Noyl. Oh man, I hope, I wish he made it. It's a great name. And we've got Tanner Vallejo. Sometimes we'll find a surprise or two here. And we've got Riley Bullo. Michigan State. All right, there you go. So nothing super significant there. Slide this away. Let's do some more retail hanger, fat packs right here. Playbook, I forgot that playbook did this retail version of it. Let's see what we have in here. So more of these playbook fat packs here. Wait, do these playbook fat packs actually have books in them? Couldn't people just feel the packs and be like, that's a book? Yes, Will Christian, we will be doing personal boxes today. Only hit packs on the website tonight. There you go. Jason usually goes live at three o'clock Pacific, so we're still half hour out from that. That's when personals usually start. Perhaps as a pseudo theft deterrent, these retail packs are harder to, they use a thicker sort of thing. It's harder to open. It's some little inside baseball there. Again, these are retail packs, so not sure if you could really expect anything to monstrous autograph-wise points. Let's keep an eye out for that. What are these, your Blitz app? Anyway, this is 2019, so we'll just keep an eye out for maybe Kyler Murray's or something like that. Kyler Murray car for Adam Coffman. All right, so nothing earth-shattering in these playbook packs. I wonder if that 250 points ended up replacing an autograph or if that was just 250 points. So here's what we'll do with the points. Name on top and the randomizer at the end, the group where we randomize everybody. Name on top, we'll get the dual auto, the second name, we'll get the 250 points and any other points that may pop out of here. Hopefully we won't see any more, but just in case. Here's 2019, Donner's Optic Mega Box. Let's pop this open. How do case breaks works as superstars? Basically, you buy a spot, in a break, more points, and then you either get a random team or you can select your own team. And then we open up a selection of boxes, sometimes a full case, sometimes a mix of boxes, like in this mixer and whatever cards that pop for that particular team is what you get. So for example, in this particular break, Matthew Hedges got randomized the bangles, so he's gonna get all bangles cards that pop out of all these 20 boxes here, including this Joe Mix and Relic. That's how it works. In a nutshell, let's go into some old select football. All right, that's a good tip too, Rebel. Yeah, make sure you read all the descriptions as well. Correcty, Nelson, veteran comments will not ship in this break. Veteran refractors, veteran inserts, all those will ship. You wanna open up all of these select boxes, if you don't mind. Again, if you're watching a replay of this, you can fast forward through this part. If you're intending to watch the entire video, which is admirable. For those of you watching live, you're just stuck with me here. Correcty, Nelson, that's for every single break from the highest end break to the lowest end break. There is a possibility that you could not get anything. No, we're not getting raided. We are not a money laundering operation. We do have a fire department right nearby, so there's always activity happening here. Don't worry, that's the nightly thing. Super, yes, you only get hits from your team. I'm not sure else. Couldn't give you the hits for a team that doesn't belong to you. That just wouldn't make sense. Right, Oreo here, Kars, we're right on PCH, because if it goes highway, so yeah, you're gonna hear all sorts of traffic activity in the background as a nightly occurrence. That's right, BK. Yeah, we're pulling so much fire here. Sometimes the fire department does have to keep tabs on us. We've been getting reports of heat in this area. Jens, if you tweet me the card in question at Jaspe's breaks on Twitter, and I will do a train whistle video for you for the missing train whistle. That's right, Microsoft. And frankly, we're pulling so much heat, so much fire. They visit every night, everything okay. We see your walls are scorched a little bit. What happened here? Well, and I will tell the fire chief that we're just pulling too much fire in here. We apologize, we're keeping things safe here. We've got a few fire extinguishers around the shop, we're okay. And he's like, all right, just making sure, Joe. Thank you, sir. D. Nelson, are you a doctor? I'm gonna get Carvel Tunnel. Well, I've been doing this for six years, haven't gotten it yet. Think I'll be okay. I'm a guitar player since childhood, so my muscles and my joints are incredibly strong. They're powerful even. Opening a few packs here and there isn't gonna hurt. That's why I'm the professional, D. Nelson. That's why I'm on this side of the camera. I know. The Henry Ruggs news. I saw in the morning when I was looking at the news, I was just like, oh, Henry Ruggs' father reporting that, oh, Matt McGloin, remember him? Rookie Otto.  His thigh got injured a little bit. He got a little cut. But apparently reports are coming out that reports are coming out. There's Jersey and auto Ryan Nassid for the Giants. That'll be for Zach Proshin. That it's more serious than, I haven't looked into it, but I've been told that it was more serious than that, so hopefully it's not more serious than that. Superstar saying, I watched your video with that one booklet card for 50 autographs before that whole C's fire department. Yes, the whole, yes, they all showed up. After I pulled that book, the fire department, which is just down the street. Jordan Poyer of Brown, maybe, will come by and then they'll, yeah, it was a Brown in 2013. They checked it out and they're like, making sure everything's okay. How would Kendrick Gamer I might be using? Tonight, just to protect the shop? Yeah. There's In Motion to 25, Jordy Nelson. Browns is Jacob K, by the way, and Zach Sudfeld for David Baker and the Patriots. I thought this might've been numbered, but just a slightly different parallel. To 499, Michael Cox, autograph for Zach Proshin and the Giants. Any idea when the $1,000 mixer will break chance tonight? Allen Bonner, 257 to 499. Houston Texan's autograph, Ryan Clow with that. And there's John Bostic, autograph for the Bears. Bears autograph going to Tanner. To 499 on that one, Bears on the board. Xub, Martin saying, doubt is too bad for Henry Ruggs. Just read a report. He said it's a cut on crutches or maybe a deep cut. All right, but hopefully something that will heal in time for camp. I hope so. All right. Steadman Bailey, rookie Jersey autographs. Broncos? Or am I thinking of Champ Bailey? Steadman Bailey is a ram. I was thinking of Champ. All right, again, I know they're expired, but you can try to redeem it or Panini will give you points in return. They don't have that readily available. All right, third and final box of 2013 select. I don't know what we'll move on to. Maybe some of that old crown royale that's on the right side of your screen. There's DJ Sweringer in the mix. Ryan with the Texans. Oh man, poor Lemonade. Is it poor Chick-fil-A Lemonade? Poor Chick-fil-A Lemonade. Got scared and just jumped off the table? It looks like I don't want to live. At a $2.99, Arthur Brown. All right, good. I like the sourcing too, mix-up. I'm big on sources. USA Today reported that Henry Ruggs news from mix-up. I appreciate that. Better than when people go, some guy on Twitter said, and it's like some guy on Twitter, that's not convincing. Don't give me some guy on Twitter when we're discussing things in the chat. There's Jonathan Cyprian. That's a nice autograph. Shame that he's not really around. I don't think he's around. Jaguars, that goes to Adam Cofferman to $4.99. Points, you can go to a reward store and you can redeem points for other cards, relics, autographs. And if you collect enough points, you may be able to get something huge. There's Zach Ertz, rookie Jersey autographs. Nice Zach Ertz for the Eagles, John. Hopefully they can find the actual card of this. That'd be pretty cool. I forgot that Zach Ertz was a rookie in 2013. Eagles. The Fly Eagles Fly. Can't wait for Zach and Julie Ertz to produce Olympic caliber children. The athleticism in that family. Redemptions can take anywhere from a couple months to a couple years. Really just depends on the player. Depends on who's working the fulfillment department. Yeah, redemptions expire after like a few years. Braxton Miller, autograph, nice. Texans, eight out of 50. Ryan with the Texans. Farrow Cooper, relic. That'll be for the Rams, that'll go to Colton. Tony Romo to 149. We'll sleeve and topple it all those numbered cards. Sue Cravens, autograph, Redskins. Jeremy Agnew with that. Nelson's asking, is it better off selling the redemption code for a new rookie right away or wait until you get the card? Depends, I mean that's, I think there's no hard and fast rule on that. Depends. If you think that the rookie is gonna be a big name, and if you're not in a rush for the money to sell it, I would redeem it. Having the live card I feel like almost in general is always more valuable than the redemption. So if you get a Joe Burrow redemption and you think he's gonna be a big name in the hobby, right? It's like the stock market, you know what I mean? If you think he's gonna gain a lot of value, then maybe you redeem it.  Or if you need to sell it right away, you don't really care about Joe Burrow. Now you can just sell it and get into another break at Jaspy's Case Breaks.com. There's CJ Spillard in 99. James Wilder Jr. to 299. Rookie autograph for the Bengals, Matthew Hedges. More points, we'll add that to the pile of points in the two spot behind the autograph. We've got Vontae's Perfect, all pro material relic for the Bengals, Matthew Hedges. We've got Derek Carr. I think that's not numbered, but we'll set that over there. Boom, hair on to 199. Got Vincent Jackson, Bucks Edition to 199. We've got Trey Mason, Rookie, Royalty to 99. All right, Dennis, what's going on? Your Griffey Moments One of One I Pulled From Immaculates says on their site in progress, who's site in progress? The Panini Redemption site? Was it a redemption? What am I doing next? I guess we'll do illusions. We're getting down to some of the good stuff here. Oh, I'm assuming it's in progress then. I don't know, anyone with, I really don't have a lot of experience with the Panini Redemption site. I'm assuming it means they have it, and that's gonna eventually get there, get to you someday. All right, so this is illusions. This is 2019 illusions, commerce.  All right, there you go, Dennis. So that's a good sign. I feel like Ken Griffey Jr. is pretty good about signing, so I feel like he's on top of that. But again, it really just depends on the player. Some players, I've heard stories of people saying, hey, all my redemption's got him within a couple months. Really fast, really great service. Some other people have been waiting for much longer. All right, 14 out of 99, we got Devin White, Buck and Ears, that'll be for Scott. DK Metcalfs, 99, Sean Watson, another redemption. It's David Montgomery, Devin Singletary. Couple of running backs right here. Rookie Reflections, dual patch autos, that's nice. You got until next March for this. This will be a randomizer between the Bears and the Bills. And Lineage Triple Relic, Deontay Johnson, Juju Smith Jr. and Heinz Ward. Steelers, that'll be for Josh. Josh K. Welcome, Andy. Did you get in? Cooper Cup to 2.99. David Johnson, shining stars to 1.49. All Sean Jeffery, Meeple Harman to 3.99. Omari Cooper to 3.99. And we got an autograph, ooh! Drew Locke, nice. 59 out of 99, Rookie Endorsements autograph. The rare Drew Locke auto sighting. He's a redemption a lot of times. That goes to Derek Molanton, who won this spot in one of our mini breaks and then got randomized. The Broncos ends up with this. Very nice. All right, let's see, where else are we gonna go here? We've got a lot of nice stuff here. Let's go to Rookies and Stars. How about that? TJ wants to get a select mini box sold out. So we have a shot at breaking that baseball mixer tonight. I'm down. Next, this is Rookies and Stars. There's David Montgomery to 1.50. I feel like David Montgomery could be a sleeper this year. I feel like everyone was all hyped about David Montgomery before last season and didn't quite work out. But I feel like maybe one more chance from this season on a fantasy team. Maybe put them on your bench, see what happens. There's Darryl Henderson, three out of five. He could, without Todd Gurley on that team. Colton Carver with the Rams. All aboard the Big Head Express. Woo-hoo! First training whistle of the day of the week. Sub Leonard, what's going on? We've got Daniel Jones to 50. Andy Isabella for Adam Cuperman and the Cardinals, two-color dual relic to 199. We've got a Rookies and Stars autograph, Anthony Johnson to 99. That'll go to the Buccaneers. That'll be for Scott. And a Kyler Murray autograph, wow! 20 out of 25, Kyler Murray, Rookies and Stars auto for Adam Cuperman, who won that spot in a mini box break and got randomized the Cardinals. That's not too shabby at all. That's a nice hit. Rookies and Stars delivering some surprises here in this mixer. Nice, very nice, Adam. Should we go into, now I want to save that vertex for a little bit later. How about some 2020 prism draft picks? So this is the brand new, the latest draft class, still in their college gear. I think there is a checklist for it on groupbreakchecklist.com. So we're going to go with, we're going to go with that. And our shipping team will take a look at that. No chargers it's yet, Kevin, but we've got a long way to go. We've got Gala, we've got Vertex, Select, Don Resignature Series, some 2020 Leaf Ultimate, Play to the Whistle. We're not even done yet, not even close. We're only just getting to the good stuff. It's Justin Jefferson. And Henry Rugg's the third. His thigh got injured. Get well soon, Henry Ruggs. Hopefully it's not too serious. They were thinking maybe Femeral Artery. That'd be scary. Oakland Raiders, Gerald with my Raiders. Getting the Speedster, the Playmaker, Henry Ruggs the third. Three of them. He's the third one. Joe Burrow, 25 out of 99. Joe Burrow rookie autograph, Joey B. Man, within two boxes got that Kyler Murray. And now we got that Joe Burrow for Matthew Hedges and the Bengals. That's nice. What a box of 2020 Panini prism draft picks. All right, let's get into some plates and patches. Oh, watch out, first off the line. Where are you going? You see that? Clumsy. First off the line, clumsy. All right, there's the plate. Kirk Cousins, Dalvin Cook, Adam Thielen. That would be for the Vikings, Martin. All aboard the Big Head Express. Woo-hoo! Derrick Henry to 99. Timmy Brown. To 60 and he'll reveal a Bryce Love. 22 out of 50. How much action did he get this season? It's a nice dual relic, though, for Jeremy. And behind Tim Brown is, ooh, part of the Raiders family. 16 out of 50. Three color patch and autographed Josh Jacobs. Nice break for my Raiders. Gerald with the Raiders. Nice, could be a big, hopefully no sophomore slump for him next year. Knock on wood if you're with me. Let's go here. Let's go 2016 Donner's Signature Series. Bouncing around the years a little bit here. I like the Signature Series. There's, when we do full cases of this, there is some great surprise potential. Use that blank card to hide the hits a little bit. No base cards in this. Jordan Richards, Patriots. That'll be for David Baker. We got Xavian Howard, XH for the Dolphins. That goes to Gordon Phillips, last bot Mojo. TJ Carey, 13 out of 50. Raiders, that goes to Gerald. And Doug Martin, nice. Two out of five. What a patch. Great autograph for the Muscle Hamster, although he apparently doesn't like being called that. That goes to, sorry, Doug. That goes to Scott Scott. All aboard the Big Hit Express. Woo-hoo. There you go. Mack McCarthy, are we doing maintenance on the IG site? Hardly any box listed, no. We got hit packs on there. Are you not entertained by the hit packs? And we're not going that late tonight, so. Not sure if you heard. Some things going on here in LA. There were base cards, I'm gonna slide out to the bottom. All right, we got Tara McLauren, Jersey and autograph to 75. Nice one for Jeremy and the Redskins. We've got, there's some chargers right there. Jerry Tillery, five out of five. Play to the whistle, Kevin. Got to play to the whistle. All aboard the Big Hit Express. Woo-hoo. We weren't even done yet. Not even done with the mixer. Kevin was already worried. Matthew Stafford to 75 and Derek Henry. Nice, 23 out of 25. Three color patch for Tanner and the Titans. There you go. This guy's really nice. This guy's pretty, pretty nice. All right, where should we go here? Should we go, let's go to Ultimate right here. There we go. Troy Dye, five out of five. Well, now I have to look this up because someone needs a train whistle. Troy Dye, what team did you end up with? You're an Oregon player from Norco. He's from around here. Born a day after my birthday, fourth rounder went to the Minnesota Vikings. Where's my mini posting notes, there it is. All right, Vikings, that'll be four mixed sub. There you go, Martin. All aboard the Big Hit Express. Woo-hoo. Fun fact about Norco, a lot of horses there. A lot of horse riding in Norco. A lot of ranches and stuff. Harrison Bryant, 18 out of 50. Should I just look up all of these now that I have these up? It's a little bit nicer, so. Harrison Bryant with, from Georgia, from Macon, went to Florida Atlantic. Fourth round pick, went to the Cleveland Browns. And that'll go to Jacob K. Jacob, yeah, Jacob K. We have a Josh K and a Jacob K in this one. Harrison Bryant. Next one is, is Antonio Gandy Golden. Eight out of 20. Antonio Gandy Golden from Chicago, went to Liberty University. Fourth, another fourth round pick, went to the Redskins. That'll be for Jeremy Agno with Washington. Oh no, I have two more. All right, we've got 20 out of 50. Ray Kwon Davis. Wasn't he in, wasn't he in Wu-Tang? Mr. Davis is a second round pick out of Alabama. Went to the Dolphins. And his teammate, Tua Tagovaiola, eight out of 20, another dolphin for Gordon Phillips. There you go, Gordon. Last spot, Mojo as well. Nice break for MIA, for Miami. Ryan McCarthy says we should go home and broadcast and break. Got a haul inventory back and forth. No, thanks. Let's go with Select. This has been a pretty strong mixer so far. That's right, mix up. Tua, Kyler, Burrow, still four bucks to go. Zeller thinking maybe a Lamar Jackson could pop out of here somewhere. We got a Joe Burrow autographed cow out of 2020 Panini Prism. I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do a recap after the randomizers and everything. So you can see everything we got. We're actually almost done with this. Another 15, 20 minutes or so. All right, Sterling Shepherd, autograph for the New York football giants, Anthony. No, I'm sorry, check that. Zach Prozzi and your names are right next to each other. 60 out of 75. Here's Alex Smith, Tri-Color, 199. And we've got Earl Thomas. Wow, nice tie-dye, three-color patch. Tie-dye going to the Seahawks. That'll be for JC. We've got Deshaun Hamilton to 75. Jersey and autograph for the Broncos, Derek Molanson. Nick Mullins to 99. We got a Saquon Barclay die-cut gold, five out of 10. That's for Zach Prozzi and the New York football giants. Julio Jones to 75. White Prism. All right, let's get the two autographs out of this Donner's Optic Football first off the line, 2018 edition. Yeah, that's rookie Saquon, by the way, out of that select. Nice die-cut. Behind Leshaun McCoy is Richie James to 50. Rookie autograph for the Niners. Asa with the Niners who won that spot in one of our mini breaks to get into the big break. Always look out for those on jaskyscasebreaks.com. And we've got Doris Fountain of Youth. 34 out of 50 for the Blue Horseshoes. That's a nice picture right there. Good pose. That goes to Stephen Kay and the Colts. And Leshaun McCoy, Bill's edition out of 25. That'll be for Ryan Redmond. All right, Gala football. It's nice stuff in here. This blank card once again. We got to 49. Rod Woodson, Steelers. That'll be for Josh Kay. We got Carlos Williams, 36 out of 99. Silver screen signatures for Ryan Redmond and the Bills. We got Allen Hearns, two out of five. Another train whistle in this. It's time for the Jaguars. There you go, nice. Jaguars, Adam Cupperman. All aboard the Big Hit Express. Woo-hoo. Silver screen signatures, Ezekiel Elliott. Rookie Ezekiel Elliott. Wow, 18 out of 25. That's for Zach and the Dallas Cowboys. This has been a strong break, boys and girls. Real strong. Now, one more to go here and it's Laquan Treadwell to 25. We'll give it two colors, right? A little bit of purple peaking. For the Vikings, that'll be for Mick Subb.  Ezekiel Elliott, Rookie. Josh Jacobs from earlier. Henry Rugs, the third. Yep, this is the last box. Good luck, everyone. It should be happening soon, Johnny. Make sure you have your notification set so you know exactly when we go on air. Air Supremacy, Patrick Mahomes. Pat Mahomes, a rookie in 2017. Anyway, we got Mike Williams for the Chargers. Nice patch. Start-ups, Relic, to 25. Some nice colors there for Kevin M. And the Bolts. And some purple, it's Alan Page. Upper tier signatures to 99. Another one on-car, too. Another one for Mick Subb. And the Vikings. Old school Vikings. This is a 2017 Vertex football with a redemption on the bottom. First one is John Ross, the third. Relic, two out of 99 for the Bengals. Matthew Hedges. Justin, do I think that Bowman Jumbo will fill tonight? Yeah, absolutely. And the redemption is Dalvin Cook. Rookie Capstones, that's the Quad Relic in autograph. Nice Dalvin Cook for, once again, for Mick Subb and the Vikings. I could do his autograph, he's basically, there you go, I mean, I autographed for you. Gotta protect the DC autograph. All right, and the final pack and the final box in our 20 box of Wildcat football mixture. It hasn't been pretty wild in this one, it's been pretty good. These two are the base cards, awesome. Slide that base card there. Drew Bs, 10 out of 99. Another blank. We've got, oh, that's ground control. We've got two here, Gary Clark autograph, on-card Super Bowl signature for Jeremy and the Redskins. And we've got Zay Jones, who's on the Raiders right now. Two out of 99, Bill's autograph for Ryan Redman. Is that Mahomes, $100 card? People love Mahomes, all right, yeah, might as well. I've heard of him, he's pretty good. There's Jared Koff. All right, Dunzo's, ladies and gentlemen. Now that's a nice 20 box Wildcat football mixture, some wild stuff in there, boys and girls. Last one went for 135. All right, we're gonna do some randomizers. First we'll do this dual autograph, dual relic rando from Illusions, I think. Yeah, Illusions football. And then the name on top, we'll get this nice dual autograph and the second name, we'll get all those points. And we'll do that with the same dice roll. So if you didn't have a very good break, you still have that to kind of cross your fingers for. If you had a good break, well, if you had a good break, it could be a nice cherry on top. Let's go back to the list really quick and grab everybody's names. Turned out to be a really nice mixer. This one will be David Montgomery, Chicago, and Devin Singletary, Buffalo. One dice roll for both lists. It's gonna be nine, six into three, nine times for each list. Let's do the dual first. One, two, three, seven, eight, and ninth and final time. Team on top after nine stays with Buffalo. Whoa, that goes to Ryan Redmond and the Buffalo Bills. Buffalo. Like the slot machine, Buffalo goal. All right, slip over here. Six and a three, nine times. Name on top, top two names get something. One, two, good luck everybody. And ninth and final time after nine. First of all, big thank you to everybody who got into the mixer one way or the other. We really appreciate it. Second name is gonna be Ryan Redmond. You'll get all those points. And the name on top with the dual autograph, Jeremy Agno. Got a spot straight up in the mixer and ends up with a 10 out of 10. Tebow and Emmett Smith, dual on-card auto from Flawless. Nice, from 2018, Flawless Collegiate. That's a nice dual autograph. So there you go, nice. So that Mahomes going to J-Dog by the way, and he's saying that a nine, five on that Mahomes is going to 350? Yeah, I guess it has exploded like everything else. In my head, that was like a $50 card, but no, $100 card, over $100 card, crazy. Excellent mixer ladies and gentlemen. In fact, so excellent that we're gonna do a recap really quick. There's that Mahomes, air supremacy. There's the Zay Jones, pretty nice stuff. The Relics look nice, there's that Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah, I know. Sirens, it was pretty hot. There's the Carlos Williams, we got the Saquon Barkley die cut. Some nice tie-dye in there. I heard of him, Tua, that was pretty good. Brayquan Davis, Gandy Golden, Harrison Bryant, Troy Dye. Some train whistles in this that Derek Henry Relic was a good looking right here too. Terry McLauren, that Doug Martin out of five was pretty sharp. Some good stuff. Josh Jacobs, there's the Joe Burrow out of 2020. Prism draft picks. We have 2020 contenders draft picks on the site right now, ladies and gentlemen. Henry Rugg, that's my guy. Drew Locke, my rival. Look at this, Kyler Murray, some nice silhouettes in here. Like this old Select was sharp too. Nice, nice. We'll look up all these college guys and see where they end up in that 17 elite. And there you go, what a great mixer. Thanks for watching, everyone. I'm Joe for jashbyscasebreaks.com. Be cool, be safe out there, and we'll see you next time. Bye-bye.


Hello there, George. Hello, everyone. Thanks for joining. We're going to wait a few more moments for folks to continue to pile in. And then we'll get started. Hello. For those of you that have just joined us, we're going to wait a few more minutes for everyone to pile in. And then we'll get started. All right, it looks like participant entry has slowed down. So we'll go ahead and get started. Thanks everyone for joining us. This is the CNC FTC meeting for today. July 18. As a quick reminder, your attendance and participation in these meetings means that you comply with the Linux foundations anti-trust policy notice if you're curious what that is. Your all is on the slide. I'm going to endeavor to fulfill the role of presenter and Amy's absence today. You're here. You know the meeting logistics. We have several TOC members present here today, but it doesn't look like we have everyone and I don't think we're doing any sort of voting so that we would need quorum. So this is going to be a discussion. We're going to be talking about sandbox annual reviews, how annual reviews are conducted. What should the evaluation and process look like when we're considering annual reviews for sandbox, how we should vote. The reason why this is coming up is, as you all know, we have a lot of sandbox projects, and they are to submit annual reviews to the TOC, at least annually. The result of that we now have over 30. I think last time I checked we have 35 open sandbox reviews. In the past, when we had about 10 or 12, it was very easy for the TOC members to either pick up one review it engage with the project check in with them and then do a report or in bulk sitting through a TOC meeting reviewing all the content of the annual reviews and then doing a bulk approval of them. So it's kind of how we've done it in the past. Through various conversations with TOC and tag chairs and tag members. We'd like to return sandbox annual reviews to the tags. In order to do that, we need to ensure that they're community driven, and that we can still quickly reach a position where the TOC agrees to continue the sponsorship of the projects as part of sandbox. I'm fairly sure what the process looks like some of the recommendations include when a tag is complete reviewing a sandbox annual review that they could provide a comment on the PR and any concerns that show up as part of that review go to the TOC liaisons for remediation. So those are just some of the ideas. Let me go back one slide. In the past. We had annual reviews that were that were executed by tags. During that time there wasn't really any guidance on what needed to happen as part of an annual review process by a tag member or by a TOC member. And in fact we don't have this clearly documented today. We do have a template that sandbox projects fill in when they submit for their annual review. But it's not necessarily consistent across all the projects that are completing the various areas. Some of them include a little bit of background and detail about what the project is. Some of them just cut to the chase and start providing us with some content and some updates. So over the course of the past several months we've had a lot of conversations about project house project reviews what do they look like. We do have plans for doing annual reviews for incubating graduated projects at a much later date to have that conversation. So today we're really just focusing on annual sandbox annual reviews. So I'm going to pause and I want to kind of open it up to discussion a little bit first to see if there's anything else that I'm missing and kind of setting the stage for how we're going to potentially explore conducting over 30 sandbox annual reviews this year. Do we want to talk about mapping areas of the landscape to tags now or do you want to move that later in the discussion today. We could probably go ahead and get started with that. So let's figure out, let me go back a slide. How to conduct the annual review and evaluating it and voting at the one thing I didn't include in here clearly I should have is the alignment of a project to a particular tag or a domain within the landscape. Right now that way the annual review process works is when when a project submit an annual review. They're not affixing a label for the corresponding time that they belong to and this is an ongoing question and activity that the TOC engages in is looking at a project figuring out what the appropriate tag is figuring out where they are in the landscape. So what we've done this go around is go through and assign what we believe to be the correct tag for each project. I'm catching up on chat real quick. Josh says it might be make this easier and tags to have projects involved in the tag on an ongoing basis yep that's part of the design behind moving the annual reviews back to the tags present their latest for a couple times a year. Bob has a plus one on having the tags more involved. This added in it's work in progress adding metadata to the CNCF landscape so things will be associated properly and more automated. We have some rough mapping Nikita has posted issue, thank you Nikita and Richie added a strong opinion that we need to have good guidance for the tags. Agreed. Sounds like everyone's in agreement, we can move these to the tags, we need to ensure that we have enough process in place for consistency. And some of the tags Karina thank you for bringing that up. Have a hard time keeping up with the regular duties, and it has not yet been resolved across all the tags so we're starting to put additional guidance in place to hopefully assist them. In the past, if I recall correctly in tag chairs if you've been around a lot longer than me please chime in. When in your reviews for sandbox projects were with the tags, they did receive some additional contributions or attention from projects through those regular engagements because the projects were sent into the tags. But since they were moved out, we started to see a drop off and a lot of that. So catching up on chat. The tag labels and landscape for projects has an ongoing issue associated with it and Bob mentioned that having the liaison sit with the leads to go through a few other reviews so they have an idea to look for etc. Yep, that sounds like a good how more integration with the tags and the to see the better. Okay. Any other comments. I was also thinking that we should probably have like to reach these point guiding checklist. So that the arbitrary across tags and it's all consistent and I know we've talked about probably doing something similar for the due diligence process that the doc does for incubating and graduating ones and maybe we should do like for the annual reviews as well so you can check this. Yep, I agree. Let me jump back over here so definitely sounds like alignment of the landscape and the domains within it needs to happen to expedite this little bit for projects across tags that's an excellent question and this is an ongoing concern. We do have several tags that don't operate in a traditional technical domain as we see here that's laid out on this tag contributor strategy and tag environmental sustainability or two that really stand out as examples of this, but you can also see that we have some projects that tag tags where we have a lot of projects associated with them tag runtime is is a really good example. It's not realistic or feasible for us to expect tag runtime to take on every single one of the annual reviews that are submitted here. So we also need to be able to write size, even though a project may be associated with a particular tags domain area. If they're overburdened. They might we might need to shift something elsewhere to another tag. Ricardo thank you for the catch on open ELB let me make that change here. I'll have to go back in and go back to the table on the issue if a TOC member would like to be able to do that that would be lovely. So, moving back to the how. So, based off of previous discussions that we've had with the tags in the TOC and how the TOC has historically reviewed sandbox projects we've done it at least two different ways. So let's pull together some initial discussion areas around what does evaluating a sandbox project look like from an annual review thank you Nikita. Look like there's two slides of this. So, if everyone is good I'd like to kind of go through and discuss them and see if these make sense and then also see if there's anything that is missing or if, if we need to try this a different way. So one is long term planning. A lot of sandbox projects come to us when we accept them into the CNCF with a roadmap or some indicator of what it is that they're doing. I think it's reasonable to expect that the sandbox project would still be sustaining and maintaining that long term planning and roadmap that they have. And other portion of that is that it doesn't need to be highly detailed or very specific it can be against releases. In some cases it could just be something that's more about moving milestones. The next portion is that we're starting to see some of the adoption of those projects pick up, not necessarily that they're getting a lot of adopters but that they're getting more attention that they're seeing more folks interested. And then development is ongoing and progressive towards version releases so that they're starting to think about how they're going to cut releases they're thinking about how they're doing versioning one of the requirements that we have is that they are versioning their releases. And that the project doesn't actually appear to be in maintenance or sustainment mode so we see some activity going on it looks like they're making incremental progress for some projects it might be a lot of progress and in other cases it might not be a lot at all. Does anyone have any questions or additions or suggestions to the three that I have on this slide I tried to group them together and then project viability around. Are they experiencing some form of community growth and development associated with that that they're starting to balance project development with contributors that are interested. Individuals that are filing issues or PRs to improve the project for their particular needs. We also want to see more project governance associated with them some sandbox projects come in with very minimal amount of governance but as they see their community grow and start to develop. We should be seeing more project governance be put in place something with a little bit more rigor to point to as they experience. Stretches in their current governance practices and then just general self self awareness, they understand where they're at from a maturity perspective they understand what else they need to do if they're progressing towards incubation and how far they are from it. And they know what they're not they feel that they're ready for it so those are kind of the couple of areas that I've pulled out of our past discussions on evaluating sandbox projects. The intent is not necessarily to develop this as a checklist more is a procedure around how we look at them. The problem with some of the checklist especially with sandbox projects is because they cross multiple domains. What may look appropriate for one security project is not necessarily going to be the same for a networking project depending on how much attention or novelty they have and how interested contributors and adopters are in that. Any questions, comments, additions, clarification. Yeah, what question, what would be the guidance for a project to continue remaining in sandbox and also when the project needs to be archived. Is that within here or is there any. Let me check, not checklist but any guidance on that. That's a really good question. So we have an archive process that's already defined. It's a very late wait. My expectation or kind of where my head is that and thinking about this is if a tag were to review a project during annual review and find that they look like they're in maintenance mode or there's a lot less activity they don't seem healthy it's. So basically like the project is due for an archive or we're not receiving a lot of attention. That would be something that I would expect the time to bring with their TOC liaisons and then at that point the TOC liaisons would be responsible for initiating an archive process checking in with the maintainers understanding what's going on a little bit more with the tag and then facilitating the public discussion associated with it. So we're remaining in sandbox that is a different conversation unfortunately. We are starting to see projects reach a level of comfort with the level that they are currently sitting in and that could be for any number of reasons. We don't actually define when an appropriate amount of time is for a project to remain in sandbox, because it varies greatly but I'm curious what other to see members perspectives and opinions are on that. It has a hand raised. Yeah. Oh, I had a different point but I completely agree with everybody on the conversation side right now. So, Richie. There's probably, it's probably a good idea to codify that we don't have to have everyone growing at all times, as long as there's maintenance going on and people are happy to sit at a certain level, making it explicit that this is actually an option, maybe reduces the strain because they don't perceive a post-majority to have to progress. That's another good example in concern area. So it sounds like whatever it is that we decided from a process perspective we need to ensure that there's accountability for our puzzle and initiating that if necessary and then making sure that there is clarity and expectations that projects may not be leaving sandbox within a year or two years it could be longer. So we need to make sure that that's documented as well. Chris comments that it should be pretty high to archive a project scrolling through chat. Josh I definitely hear you around motivation of members and getting folks to do work. So, Nikita I will turn over to you before I start answering questions and chat. I just had a very small point. So since annual reviews aren't only about checking if a project has had even more also giving guidance on how they can grow, kind of providing a mechanism for them to go into incubating projects I was wondering if it makes sense if we could add in the annual review process and questions and just asking the projects what kind of help they're looking for from CNCF the tags or the community in general. And maybe it doesn't have to be a checklist but kind of just rephrasing some of those things. It's not like if they're doing anything to grow their contributor base. So this is one of the things that we look at when we look at incubation. And I think it should be okay for product has not grown significantly but if they call out what they're trying to do to make this better probably tax can provide guidance. So it's kind of free phrasing in terms of just where do you stand right now with the state of the product the more of how can you grow instead. Yep. Okay. We've got some questions and chat. I received annual reports for all sandbox projects, not yet. So the current process is it's one year from when they were accepted. So projects will submit in your reviews periodically. I believe one of the CNCF boss I think it's sheriff chief year Bob correct me has been notifying projects that they're due for their annual review, Chris. Yeah, definitely we started to do some automation here where we're basically poking projects that they should go submit their annual review and we're kind of basing that based on metadata in the landscape. That sees what when their latest review is so it's kind of a new little process slash automation thing that we're doing that will hopefully spread and notify all maintainers that this is happening that they should have the right metadata. For this work. It should be definitely improved it'll be easier to track all this hopefully. Yep. Kathy. Yes, I think for the community girls. We may also want to look to know to see whether is there's any contributor girls or new maintainer girls, or sometimes you know some project right it has only maintained them from one company. So we may want to look for that too. Um, arena asked is the danger if the danger is high for many projects to stand back in sandbox does that risk attracting contributors since there is no guarantee that they would mature. I don't know that we've necessarily seen a lot of projects in sandbox that want to stay there forever. Because it does take them quite a bit of time in some cases to move levels so I don't know that we have enough data to be able to reason around whether or not there's any risk there. So far from what I've seen based off of the backlog cube that the TOC has for incubation applications. They are receiving contributors there is some progress that's being made but we have not done a good job clarifying kind of expectations for steps to be able to move into incubation we have the criteria defined but I still think that there is a gap between the sandbox application and actually being ready for incubation that the tags could definitely assist a lot of our projects and fulfilling. Bob had replied around Josh's concern around motivation for having enough contributors within the tags to be able to take on annual reviews, definitely making some of the responsibility here would help but Josh, would you like to add anything else. Yeah, now I fit it and I can come off mute I just wanted to just mention that like I think this is a great strategy and I would love for you know my tag to take on more here. But yeah, I have to be honest and just bring this up with you all like, I don't know who's going to do the work. Our chairs are not like, I'm not even officially a chair and I'm working hard to get that, you know, set but. Yeah, I could use some help and like how do we maybe assigning them work but I think a lot of these contributors aren't even they don't even have the time to really do this. So I'm a little concerned. That's I just, yeah, I don't have any answer I just wanted to share that. No, it's a valid concern. And actually, that's skipped ahead a few slides. So that that's actually something that we should be bringing up is the sandbox reviews are not to have the same intensity that we do for incubation or graduation because these are still very early projects they're still experimental they're still trying to find their footing in the ecosystem. So ideally these are pretty lightweight. So maybe circumstances I can foresee where a tag starts looking at a particular project starts digging in and sees like, some things seem to be missing, or that they're not making as much project as one would expect given the amount of attention that particular sub domain area is receiving those in my mind would be conversations with to see liaisons. There is definitely an opportunity here for us to try to both leverage annual reviews to increase the contributors and the members within the tag community and ecosystem to better distribute this work like, you can see if a project has gone through an annual review and had a positive experience and engagement they might return back to the tag to pay it forward and ideally that's what we'd start to like, we'd like to start saying with some of our projects. Ricardo added in that maybe using something like session eyes would be excellent for managing a lot of this. That's certainly something that we can talk to the foundation staff about to see if that works right now. They're through PRs. So with the template that we have it does give us some information I know session eyes does have some questions from a reviewing perspective that we can leverage, but making sure that we have consistent information, as well as we've talked in the past about automating some of the information that goes into a sandbox annual review understanding what are the dev stats associated with it. So that's something that we can definitely look at. I would prefer that we do a more manual process first before we we look to automate it with other tooling to assist it because it's easier to iterate on manual activities. Let's see catching up. Okay. So we have a lot of things that we need to figure out still Josh you came off mute. Yeah, I just was going to share. I love the idea of giving something concrete what you said before about the having a project being able to tell people hey this is how you contribute your review it. And I was just going to say like we've started kind of doing on my tag and maybe we'll create an issue for each thing and guide in that issue, the reviewer and the project along. Yeah. So then the next thing is voting. So in the past, the TOC has done two different forms of voting on sandbox annual reviews. The first being to see members are on a call. They pull up all the annual reviews they review them all the call, and then they vote to accept them all in. On other occasions and more recently, the TOC members each took on several projects, they reviewed them and then they prepared slides based off of the PR content, and invited the sandbox projects on to the public meeting where we discussed them to provide to answer any questions or add additional clarity to some of the comments that they had on the PR such as those that Nikita pointed out, needing support from the CNCF or TOC members or even a tag. That worked fairly well doesn't work when we have over 30 think we have 35. So we need to figure out a way or a process that allows the tags to provide recommendations to the TOC and the TOC to take action on it, we could do that as voting through get vote on the PRs, but that that's a lot of PR voting to do. We could do it in bulk and mass so providing a due date associated with them or periodic every twice, or every other month check in on the current status of annual reviews, if they're placed in a state that says it's been recommended by the tag and the TOC can just jump on a call and provide that voting. So there's a few different options there. I'm curious if to see members of you have a preference based off of the new get vote that we've been leveraging and past sandbox reviews. The thing I'll share is that I was at an end user company at some point and there was an architecture review board. And, you know, the enterprise architects or people, you know, with significant expertise were on the board and we would assign individuals from the board to kind of mentor or support a project and then you know when they came to present to the ARB that person would come along with them. And often that person would give their perspective after the project gave like say, oh, I evaluated an XYZ. Maybe that's an approach like we assign it to the tag the tag assigns a person to shepherd to mentor and then that mentor comes with the project to talk to present, you know, for five minutes or something. But that's a, that's something that could potentially be done. I think I like that it mirrors a lot more of that mentorship and advisory function that we'd like to see the tags kind of engage in for a lot of our projects. Leo had posted in chat around interest in participating in some other reviews. Think about how this could make the work more interesting shout outs at a conference or a blog post or even issuing badges for people that participate is a review. That's definitely something I know Nikita have brought up this morning to me and what the TOC is checking on the status of it but recognizing tag member contributions, particularly around activities that are not necessarily seen as glamorous, but necessary to the function of the ecosystem and definitely appreciate it so that we can add that into our next conversation we have around badges and tag member recognition. You know what that also helps like these people justify it to their employer so that's something to keep in mind too. It does yeah. I mean, I'm just making a note. Okay. What else hasn't been discussed here. What other ideas thoughts perspective opinions complaints constraints you all have associated with this. Josh. I got a lot to say right. One thing that like I'm thinking is like, how can I leverage my tag to be more of a community for these projects like I'd like to not just be a clearinghouse for them. I don't want to make them to come participate. You know, and I just I'm wondering if, if that if we can leverage that to continue to further that leverage this work to further that to like, don't just show up once a year and give your review like you know pay attention to our threads you know when you see a project related to yours come in, you know chime in with your review of it, you know can how can we encourage projects to be part of our community. So some incentive alignment needs to happen as part of like, they're getting value out of the reviews we'd like to see that value returned back into the tags. So that's something that we can look at exploring how do we do that as part of this process. Karina. Thanks Emily. I already mentioned this to you but not necessarily the wider group. As sandbox projects are coming in for review. So as part of the process. Is there another project that it could be integrated with is there. How do we drive more efficiencies within the ecosystem versus asking more people to do more. How do we make each project really effective and maybe blend in more capabilities or etc. That's definitely a good call that could definitely be something that's considered as part of those annual reviews is providing recommendations for projects of where they could potentially collaborate our partner with other projects. Both either within a SIG or within a tag or even potentially extending the cloud native ecosystem further because there are a lot of open source integrations that happen outside of cloud native from an adopter's perspective. So being able to identify those and having situational awareness of what exists within the domain of a given area of the ecosystem would be beneficial for sandbox projects to and could bring more contributors into the cloud native ecosystem. Other thoughts and comments. Okay. So, we need to figure out how do we count for archive. We need to figure out management of projects that appear to be retaining their presence in sandbox far longer than we expect them to or anticipate them to. Highlighting where projects need help as part of that annual review, making sure that we have a positive engagement with them and that we can respond in a timely manner to any request for support. Helping to ensure that the tags receive community growth. As a result of this and recognition to remember badges particularly if they're participating in a review. We're promoting project integration and efficiencies as well as verifying that we're seeing some positive trends for new contributors and new containers to projects as they go down that path towards incubation. So, let's talk next steps then. So the to see has over 30 of these to do. Two tags chairs members and to see members feel about. Let's start with a lightweight process for right now. And the liaisons will partner up with their corresponding tags to review jointly. Some of these projects it can be a sync it can be on a call however you all wish to manage your time. Does that make sense probably for these first 35 that we have seeing some head nods. Okay. We also need to ensure that no single tag is over burdened with the volume share of the annual reviews. Does anyone have a preference or a recommendation for how to divvy this up. I had previously gone through and loosely assigned to see members and there's only so many of us to look through them. We need to ensure that it's an equal distribution among everyone so what it how do you all feel I'd be curious to hear from tag runtime, because they have the bulk of the work. We can get a more help from the other tags. But yeah, you know, we can get started with just what you know the list and start knocking them out one by one and. Okay. Yeah, but but I think a tag environment environmental sustainability offer the help. So maybe we get some help from them. This might also be a good, this might also be a good opportunity to take another look and see if we can maybe shift a few things a few projects which need to review before we start the review process because it is something which can conceivably fall into different tags. Maybe we can either put them on the backbench, or we can we can ask other tags to actively taken where it's not super team. Yep. Okay. Grina you asked if this particular spreadsheet was shared anywhere it is not however on the TOC repo we have a new project board thank you Chris for setting that up. That has an in your review tab that lists all of the in your reviews that are open.  I was going to ask if there's somebody has set up a project for our reviews so that we can actually at least all see if they are. And then kind of work through. It's there now Duffy, it may not be perfect but it's better than what we had before. Yeah. So this is brand new. Thank you guys for pulling this together it certainly helps us understand kind of like the breadth of what it is that we have. So let me catch up on meeting chat real quick, stringy. Okay. And then whether or not members outside of official tags and to see could be invited to shadow to understand how these reviews are done volunteer be the issues created for these might help to get a second line prepared for the next round. Yep. That's fair. I don't see that as being a problem. So that's not an official thing that you have to apply for it's more about participation in an area that you're interested in and being available and present to do the work. So that's something Krishna if you're interested in doing this definitely select a tag pick a domain and volunteer to assist. It's a learning process for everyone, especially since this will be new for us. What I'm going to do is I'm going to take the action to go through and try to rough in that lightweight framework if there is another tag member or to a senior member or community member on the call that is interested in participating and assisting or having your ideas captured. Please DM me and slack will be more than happy to take your assistance. And once we have that done. I'm going to shoot for the next two weeks, share that out in the public to see channel and slack. And on the mailing list. That way we can propose like a rough timeline for how we want to get started with this. Or Vegas should be storage. Yep, I can do that now. Does that work. Sounds good. Okay, cool. We have about 20 minutes left. Did anyone have anything else that they wanted to bring up something short and sweet topics questions. Anything else. I have one question for these some sandbox reviews. Is there like a specific timeline or this is, you know, best effort. For right now, let's go with. We'll try to do best effort I would like to try to get these 35 done no leader than the end of September because they have been outstanding for a long period of time and we do have we're going to have more than are going to come in. I think for end of September, I figure next two weeks for getting it written up and then plenty of time for to see liaisons to meet with the tags and kind of partner and sides out on going through this. Does that seem reasonable for everyone. That sounds good to me. Okay. Awesome. All right. Well, anything else. Okay. Thank you so much everyone for attending today really appreciate your opinions and inputs as we try to make this process a lot better for all of the, the tags and the sandbox projects and to see members involved. We really appreciate it. Have a wonderful rest of your day. Thank you all. Thank you. Bye bye.