It is a noon hour on Thursday, folks. Ted Rawson here in our Honolulu Studios, Think Tech Studios downtown Honolulu with a fantastic show on our Where the Drone Leads periodic episode. This one is all about shared airspace, sharing airspace between drones and manned helicopters. And helping us figure that problem out, we have, first of all, online from the island of Lanai. We have George Purdy, who is Mr. UAS Aviation on the island of Lanai. George, welcome aboard again. Thank you for having me on the show. Glad to be here. Cool. And we're glad you're here. And we have, on this side in the studio, we have Mr. Scott Allen. Scott, thanks for coming on. First time around the show. Always a pleasure. Scott is part of either the Future Farmers of America or the FAA. I've forgotten which is it. It's FAA Safety Team. FAA Safety Team. Safety Team, OK, which is part of the FISDO. I presume. Indeed. I'm attached to the FISDO. Attached to the FISDO. Right on, OK, here on Honolulu. And Eric Lincoln, who is the Director of Operations at Blue Hawaiian Helicopters, taking care of the tourists who come to town here and emergency operations as such as well. So we have a fantastic gathering of two complete opposite bookends of the whole airspace issue, especially the low altitude airspace. So I wanted to just start by pointing out this is a show about drones. So we have to say that we're drone. We've said that, that's enough. And then we have to have a drone item here on the table. So we have with us something for you guys to take a look at. This is kind of the entry-level military-type drone used by Spec Ops and such. This is missing its battery and missing its payload. This thing weighs about two pounds. Battery is another pound and a half, and it carries four pounds of payload. And that's its ground station over here. And I would say that most drones, we're speaking of, that would be in the airspace we're thinking about where we have common interests, would be in the same size and weight scale. So I just put that out here for physical awareness. This is a ground control station that would be used to operate this thing in flight C. A drone is always two things. It's a ground station, radio communication, and the air component. So that's what's going on here. Quite different from manned aviation where it's the guy in the cockpit. Anyway, I wanted to introduce this subject of airspace sharing. You know, we have a, my experience in the way, we have a increasing population using drones. And they come from basically not from the aviation side of the house. They're not familiar with a lot of things. And you take a drone out of the box, and there may be some instructions you can't understand. And you think, well, since I can't understand it, it probably doesn't apply to me. So I'll go use my drone anyway I want. We have that bunch. Then we have the folks like George on the other side and the professionals we work with, which are very attentive to rules and such. And you probably have people in between. There's all kinds of folks using these things, and they're all using them. And in general, they're respecting 400 feet and below because they typically have a software limit of 400 feet. But not always. And so there are so many users, and there are so many means by which you can actually use a drone in the airspace today. There's educational, there's recreation, there's various forms of ostracizations, and there's 107 now. And so with that situation, we have a lot of competition, frankly, in the airspace in some regard. So I wanted just to start a long conversation here that won't ever have an end. They won't certainly solve it today. But if we can begin some kind of communication between the various users of the airspace and find a way to get at them, and let them know what's going on, that would be great. So let me turn first to Eric. You were the other side of this equation using the airspace with jet rangers and such. Yes, we've got about 34 aircraft at the moment. And just in our organization, there's many more than that operating here. One of the conflicts that we've experienced is we're all looking at the same thing. You know, the waterfalls. So the focus is the same, right? Yeah, exactly. So the waterfall, the beach, whatever it might be that attracts people to Hawaii. Exactly. And everyone wants to take a picture. And everyone wants a different preview. And we've had some closing clowners. We actually had one hit one of our aircraft. So it's a very real to our people that fly them and to the people that are in them. So we're very invested in seeing how we can integrate safely. And we understand that the professionalism for segments of the industry are huge. Very professional, very well disciplined in how they do things. And we admire that a lot because they're valuable in disasters. They're valuable in rescues and agricultural work. There's just all kinds of avenues that we know they're going to be ahead of the manned aircraft very rapidly. It's more concerned to us that we see is going to be the amateurs, the people from foreign countries who bring these in and they carry on baggage that have no clue about what their U.S. airspace how it's constructed, what regulations we may have. And they're not, as you say, they take it out of the box in the way they go. That's what we see as one of the biggest problems. So that's sort of like a promotional and educational campaign of some kind that's going to be required to get that information out. So let's turn for a moment to Scott over there at Honolulu Airport watching all the standards emerging and such. In fact, standards are emerging so fast in this business. And I don't know how you guys keep up with them. It's tough for us to keep up with them. I was going to say a little while back you said the conversation will never end and the technology is evolving at such a rate that there is always a new facet that's being developed. In one point of information you'd mentioned that a drone operation what we tend to call small and manned aerial systems is the hardware and the operator on the ground, the ground station. And the FAA would add another element in that we define the links, the command and control linkage as being a third element that makes up the system that operates the drones. And I'm using drones generically here because... It's more complicated than manned aircraft already because you're obligated to have the man on the ground situation. It's just not a guy in a cockpit anymore. So it is quadruply complicated already. So quadruply might be an understatement. Today it could be, but tomorrow it won't be. OK, so FAA is sitting in the middle of all this potted stirring and we have the uninformed users, we have the professional users, we have folks in between, we have the other folks using the airspace.  It is indeed... That's why you're on the show. No, the drone zone is a great program that we have online that facilitates transfer information, requesting waivers, any number of things. The drone zone, we have another program, Lance, the president has directed a fast track pilot program for industry and regulatory collaboration to move ahead and move faster with getting drones integrated completely into the system. So there are a lot of initiatives like that. There was a program on the FAA website where you can call up a map that will show the maximum altitudes that can be flown in any given sector. That map is not an authorization to fly those altitudes. It just says what the maximum permissible request could be. So we are working really hard to promulgate the information. And there's a whole other side of this that is not present in our conversation and it's sort of represented by George to a certain extent but that's the landowners and the people who have issues with the privacy invasion and trespassing on land and such. So there's a whole civil side to this that we don't have to worry about in the manned aviation domain so much. And we don't really have a website you can turn to. Frankly, this says here's what the landownership requirements are. Here's what the... We have best practices but you have to dig hard to find them. So we really have a situation where just for the average guy who either came from some foreign country or who bought a drone at Amazon or something here's quite a challenge to figure out all the information he needs and figure out where his relevance is and what he has to do. So it's a daunting thing. Let's turn for a moment to George Purdy standing by on the island of Anaya and let me just offer this before we hear George talk. One of the recent FAA solicitations or innovations was something called UPP. It's the unmanned pilot program which is the follow-on to the IPP and that is requesting manufacturers to figure out how to do the data block transfers from users to the FAA air traffic control centers to the dealing with the ADSB out and such in some data transmission form to support UAS operations. We submitted on that along with the University of Alaska and guess what? Out of all the 450 airports in the United States of America that the FAA picked to have one of the one airport scenario that you have to bid on is the airport called LNY here on Lanai Island, Georgia's airport. 450, that's like less than 2-10% of all the airports. Something about that airport is magic in the eyes of the FAA. It's got its controlled airspace echo. It's not operated that way, it's operated more like VFR. So it has the need to be disciplined in controlled airspace but it doesn't have the traffic that would present a problem for testing. So somebody inside the FAA figured that out and wrote that into the script. So anyway, we're very proud of that and proud of George. George, are you there? Yep, I'm here. So you heard the conversation so far. Tell us a little bit about what you've been doing on the island with regard to public safety, UAS use all these gaps that we've just described. Sure. There we are. So about two years ago, I came across this FAA document called Community Involvement Manual. It came out February 2016. So as I started reading this manual, it gives you a step-by-step how to involve your community in whatever project that you wanted to do. So as I was studying drones and what was happening on the continent and watching how the communities were really left out of the loop and my feelings and their feelings as they put it out there was that the government was just shoving drones down their throat. So I took that as an opportunity to start now educating my community first and have the community actually support me in drones and for certain search and rescue and emergency situations. So I got them involved in that sense of them taking ownership. And this manual has a lot of information that it helps us as FAA operators or in the FAA airspace to actually find that local person, like for me I work at Launa Airport. My day job is on my airport firemen and I do a lot of emergency preparedness planning, tri-annual disaster drills. So it has taught me how to interact with my community. So I took just some of these skills and when UAS came out of the woodworks and I wanted to be a part of the UAS in Hawaii, I took the lead in educating my community, taking what FAA is sending down, educating it, tuning it up and making it digestible for my community. That's the way we got to look at local airports taking the initiative and educating their community. We can't wait for these folks to actually read a memo from Washington which they have no understanding what it is. We need to find those local key personalities or businesses willing to step forward within the community and explain what is going on. Taking pride in supporting schools, having an aviation day, a drone prevention month, just something that we can expose a lot of the issues that we are having today. That's great and we got to take what George is doing on Launa which admittedly has a 3,100 person population and not a lot of heavy air traffic and transpose that over here to Oahu where the numbers go up by a factor of 100 maybe and figure out how to distill all this into, as he said, digestible information that the public can grab onto. We started at one school here, I think, Kupolei Middle School in the approach of Kupolei Airport and Kalei Lola Airport and we've had one interaction there. I think we could do like George said, start with the airports and let's work in the airport community area. That's kind of where one area where interaction is going to occur and start generating get-togethers of some kind, information sharing, get-togethers, looking each other face-to-face and figure this out. Where it is today it's going to be four times that in a couple of years so the sooner we start the better. I wonder if we can use the aviation caucus as a channel here. What do you think about that, Eric? I think that would work well but the bottom line issue is going to be what's happening now and how do we get the users that are presently doing this to move forward with it because it's the helicopter community or the airplane community is regulated with certain technology, ADSP for example. There is no way of identifying a UAS that is not being a drone that's being operated outside of the regulatory environment to avoid and I know there are software things like that but the community I think is so, they don't know enough about it to even start with this. To them it's still that personal toy and that personal toy now can go up to 50 pounds or whatever it can be but it can be lethal much smaller to an aircraft that's airborne. Something like this for example in a rotor would be a bad day. Or come through a window and hit somebody. Having the community involvement and doing that in a larger scale, we have several organizations I know in Oahu that are focused at UAS. They have memberships, they have get togethers and that spreading that out. The Helicopter Association International is very serious about integration of this because they see the future of that also. So their involvement locally would help. AOPAs, things like that as we discussed earlier are all venues of education. The FAA I don't think is tasked in their staff to enforce anything. They really don't have enough trouble with existing regulation let alone it's coming down the road. So I agree that community outreach is definitely where we need to go. Let's take our one minute break here that we're allowed by the show and come back after that break and talk about exactly how we should do that maybe even within the next six months. Okay. I'm Jay Fiedel, ThinkTech. ThinkTech loves energy. I'm the host of MENA, Marco and me, which is MENA Morita, former chair of the PUC, former legislator and Energy Dynamics, a consulting organization in energy. Marco Mangelsdorf is the CEO of Provision Solar in Hilo. Every two weeks we talk about energy, everything about energy. Come around and watch us. We're on at noon on Mondays every two weeks on ThinkTech. Aloha. Hello, I'm Yukari Kunisue. I'm your host of New Japanese Language Show on ThinkTech Hawaii called Konnichiwa Hawaii, broadcasting live every other Monday at 2 p.m. Please join us where we discuss important and useful information for the Japanese language community in Hawaii. The show will be all in Japanese. Hope you can join us every other Monday at 2 p.m. We are Back Show. Back folks on our show where the drone leaves. Senator Alson here with the guests, George Purdy on Lanai and Eric Lincoln here. Eric, thanks for coming on the show again for the timer. Thank you. And Scott Allen of FISDO. And I did get that straight. That is FAA, not Future Farmers, right? It could be both, but today it's FAA, okay? And we're just talking before the break about the need for getting information out, getting people to understand it because it's foreign to a lot of folks in this world of drone usage and this legislation session begins in basically December of this year. The timing is right to start planning some kind of a November gathering of some kind where the various users of the airspace gather and invite the legislators in as well and our public safety people following the lines of the FAA community involvement manual, which I don't know how many people inside the FAA know that even exists. That thing is actually a very rich document in terms of what goes on. Anything that changes in the use of the air, adding a runway to an airport, going from ILS to sat-based, anything like that really is required to be led into the community by that means. So perfect. We'll follow that example. Let's do that. Let's set up something that we can work with you and the aviation caucus on pulling the manned users together. We can certainly work on as many, the unmanned as we can find and invite the legislators who are involved in this. There's half a dozen who pay attention to this a lot. That we could do. And that's just the idea here, but we'd have to think of a location that's convenient for people where parking is easy, not like here where you have to find a narrow little slot to pull into. It worked. And the capital is a little tough parking-wise, but maybe out at the airport would be the right way to do it. Is that something that makes sense? Let me ask Scott, is that something we could pull together? Absolutely. And as George was talking and George, maybe we can get together offline. There are some notes in my talking points about the UAS integration pilot program. And that was initiated in October 2017 where the president directed the secretary of transportation to come up with a pilot program intended to advance integration without stifling innovation. And I'd like to read one of the bullets and I don't normally like just reading stuff, but it was so on point with what you and George were talking about. And I think we can pursue this, but the UAS integration pilot program creates a mechanism for the private sector and state local tribal governments to make experience-based and data-driven contributions to the national framework to safely integrate drones into our economy. And you were talking about expanding from the 3,200 people population on the nigh and expanding it into Honolulu and expanding it into the national airspace. And I haven't been working with this, but it does exist. George Tedd would like to invite more research into this, and it might be a mechanism for us to move forward. You know, we can capitalize on that because we did make an application as Hawaii for that under D-Bed. We didn't get selected on the first round, but we were part of the Alaska submission and did get selected as part of that. So we're a little bit in there, but I got a call from a gentleman in D.C. who was taking all those who didn't get selected to say, can we still help you? That is, don't think because you didn't get selected. We're not here to help. If you've got some ideas, let's go. So I can recontact that gentleman and get D.C. to come out here and be part of this thing we've put together, this calibac. Whatever I can do to help. I very much want to be on board with that. And I didn't realize, but again, when it comes to SUAS, when there's something that I know about the programs that you don't know about, it would be a very shocking day, but I'm not surprised now that you're already engaged. We can go to that now. You can get your side to come into this, get the educators into this. And then, why Helicopter Association, which should also participate, it's mainly the two helicopters, but it does, we're trying to get as many of the utility operators, police and fire, involved also. So that understanding each other's point of views, really where we need to go. The aircraft in flight, of course, pilot command, he's got a lot to deal with already. So it's going to be that task, a large task, so we'll participate. So I'm just wondering how we communicate these complicated issues to the public, who is the guy who bought that drone, takes it out of a box and doesn't necessarily see things, doesn't know about classy airspace, doesn't know about 12345, or some other means of communication, doesn't know about looking at 129, 988, whatever the two helicopters are. 136. So there's a lot of things that go on all the time that you guys have found a way to make effective and you do it without thinking about it much because it's what you have to do, but it goes so fast and it's in such a cryptic language that it's hard for the folks on the outside to pick that up, I suspect. So some form of explanation of what you actually go through on a daily basis, going across my Manalo Bay, for example, down low, you've got to check with Kaneohe to get into the Delta Airspace there, and then but if they're closed, what do you do? So there's, well, that's all going on. The drone guy down there is hauling his fishing line out or something and they bring the same space. He doesn't know what's going on and he doesn't know how busy your guy is trying to work through the circumstances. So we have to illustrate somehow. Just maybe start by basically illustrating what we're all doing. You see a very good point she's brought up. The 400 foot ceiling is misleading to start with. A lot of the operations don't need to go to 400. And the helicopter operations were already restricted to do air tours a certain, but other than the air tour, you know, it's a safe operation and that leaves it up to the pilot to operate. So the education on both sides as to what's necessary versus what's legal is really where the common sense is going to have to come in. But we know that doesn't and aviation isn't always applicable. But we've got some good leadership, I think, in the communities to tap. And I think George has really given a good example of how he's taken to his community and taking the bull by the horns and actually stepped up and making it a part of their tools kit that they can use. How we do that to 1.4 million people That's a good question. But I think we have a lot of retailers we need to talk to. Some of the clubs that we're talking to, there's in today's generation, the internet people are on board a bit before you actually, they even was a suggestion one time before you could even buy when you had to have a license that you actually go on and register and do this, but it met a lot of resistance. I think we have to overcome that resistance. I think we have to actually make people who purchase these responsible. And I'm top of all, this is the current status, there's always the things that are emerging. Like there's going to be an electronic signature required to be broadcast by these guys as soon as the DCA gets the specifications written, it's now part of the FAA transferred from our DCA to the FAA recently. So that's going to happen ADSB out is going to be in all the small aircraft up in April of 2020 or something like that. It's the execution day. January 1, 2020. Yeah, and a lot of these guys are carrying dual ADSB out already. So there's good now as soon as that happens, if all of the drones began broadcasting on ADSB the system would be flooded. I have the feeling and we'll see. But I don't know if anybody sets the thing for that level of operation or exactly what do you do? You get a warning aircraft nearby. Okay. What's next? From the pilot perspective, is he going to see that at what distance? Yeah. Is he going to see an avoid is not really a realistic thing at that small aircraft. Alright. The user on the ground seeing ADSB aircraft nearby has one perspective. The guy in the cockpit at 99.8% and two has a different set of things. He's on a radio. He's talking to the tourists and he's looking down and got to take care of this now too. There's two different circumstances and two different perspectives that are merging in some way. And the impacts are really what concerns in the industry. I mean, it's one thing to lose your drone. It's another to lose six, seven lives. Right. Yeah. And I think that's been a gap in some of the users, the amateur users. The professionals I think are doing a great job. But the amateur users, a lot of them don't understand that that piece of toy can bring down an aircraft full of people. And again, if I could jump in the communication and part of our outreach, as you mentioned the schools, if we could start with the schools and get the younger people involved and maybe they can help carry the message to their parents. But as we say, toy, it's not a toy. It's an aircraft. Anything that flies in the airspace is an aircraft under the purview of the FAA. So it's our job to promote and ensure the safety of the flying public and everybody. And drone operators, it is definitely not a toy. But it's anytime you lift off the ground, it's serious. This show goes very quickly. This is the first of many interactions I hope we can have like this. Just a quick one, Rob. Do we have any call-ins, questions coming in from the audience? Well then we'll drive forward here. So I think we're sort of mutually committing ourselves to something that pulls us all together. We'll take George's guidance and leadership and helping us make that happen. I will just illustrate one story. I was talking to Jace Gags and the Fairbanks and he said, make sure George comes to our conference next week. So everybody needs to know that George is a nationally respected voice in this game and we appreciate that very much. George, what do you think of this idea of having a gathering before the legislative session begins, because that's an important part too. And I should put a shout out to Roger Wong at HPD who's working on the HPD side of it. George, some comments from you on putting together a island level interaction? Oh, that is a must. That is actually the driving force that will change our future and how UAS integrates into the airspace. We should never stop having these conversations. I mean, for example, when you came to Lanai and we did that UAS public meeting, you saw how the UAS integrated into the airspace and the UAS public meeting. You saw how a community and well educated community came in there with viable questions and know this hardly. They knew exactly what we were talking about. And you can give some aspects on just meeting this community and the meeting and how we explain what we want to do on Lanai. And I followed the FAA's community involvement manual to the T and that's the outcome that you got. So you can speak to that experience. OK, so we have George's leadership and guidance and permission to go ahead and copy what George has done on Lanai over here on Oahu and we'll invite you to it, George, of course. And so we're talking about something before the, we're talking November to December. We'll all do it together. We'll get on this show and tell how it's going in six weeks. How would that be? Sounds fine. OK. Brazilian to follow. That would be our coordination center. In jail. All right. Possibly get the state DOT also. Absolutely. Yeah. And the Department of Education. I mean, that's the point. Like we said at the beginning, it doesn't end, right? It just keeps rolling. And we'll have to imagine ourselves doing this every year to keep up with the technology changes and issues, best practices that are occurring elsewhere. So at this point in time, let me say we're going to have to close the show off. Let me just thank George Burney for sitting in from Lanai and you can go back to work now, George. And Eric Lincoln, same for you. Back to work. And Scott, back to work. That was a pleasure. And thanks for coming on this show and all of them for a long time. You're on. Thanks very much. Good job, George. See you all next week, folks.


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It's nice to hear some positivity coming out of mainstream media regarding Everton because too often they jump on the back of us. To be fair, a lot of the time it's been justified but it is nice to hear some positive things. On the back of that Bernard speaking, after he scored his first goal in the Premier League he said that it's only natural that more goals will flow from him now. He said it's give me a calmness and show that I can do it in the Premier League. He said he felt as though Saturday's performance was his most complete performance for Everton this season. I guess that goes for the whole team as well. It was probably the most complete 90 minutes that Marco Silversman have put together this season and Bernard was exceptional in that game and just showing everything that he's got ability pace, great first touch and now that he's got a goal. That's the only thing you can really be critical of him I think this season is that he's not scored the goals he should have done. We need him to weigh in with more goals but hopefully Saturday will make him get into those areas where he was at the weekend and get on the end of things. Because if he can add the goals he got with Charleston on the other side and Guilffy Sigurd and scoring goals that's going to help us when he goes from every area of the pitch but he kept a fantastic display at the weekend with his first goal in the Premier League. One of the most interesting stories that is in the news today is being reported and he expressed the mirror in the Daily Mail and that is that Tottenham and Arsenal are going head to head in a £50 million battle for Michael Keane. Apparently Maritio Potatino has targeted Keane at the summit. I think he's been very good for Everton this season, he's improved every week, he was excellent at the weekend, he's back in the England squad but I don't think there's any chance Everton would sell him anyway in the summit and I'm not sure that that is actually a real thing. Although quite a few news outlets are reporting it, it might just be in April the first thing but they seem to be some elements of seriousness behind it but I suppose he's in England centre back and £50 million is going right nowadays isn't it? Young Everton Winger Daniel Bramel, who was out of contract with the club in the summer is having a trial at Sheffield Wednesday, he's actually playing in there under 23s tonight, the 20-year-old man has been in and out of David under his 23 side and it looks as though he's trying to get himself a club for next season and Sheffield Wednesday would be a good move. But you know, let's see what happens, let's see what happens there. I was reading before about Mason Hullgate, West Brom as he all being a treat of the game, how good Hullgate's performance was at the weekend, sorry Friday night at 3-2 win over Birmingham, they said this fella was excellent again and then reading all of West Brom, treats after it from their fans are just like let's enjoy him while he can, he's absolutely class, please sign him permanently. He's my favourite player, he's this, he's that and you know that it's really good obviously for Mason but I think it's good for Everton Winger as well because he's gone in and played it right back there and has done ever so well and I think we need someone who can really put Sheamus on his toes. I know there's lots of rumours going around that Everton will chase it right back this summer but could Mason be the one that saves us some money, you know let's hope that is the case. Two more stories before we finish, Leeds are chasing Yannock Balashie apparently. They believe that if they get into the Premier League they can convince Balashie to join them, he's doing very very well obviously on loan and elect. They want to keep them but wages and everything, I wouldn't imagine they'd have an opportunity but I suppose if Leeds get into the Premier League then they can play. Pay Premier League wages and Balashie wants to probably have another go in the Premier League, it's 29, hasn't really worked out for them at Everton after the injury so it's one that you potentially could see happening. And finally this one is a bit of a mad one, Jordan Pickford has apparently been investigated by the club by Everton Ped, by Everton after a fraca in a Sunday's check trade trophy final defeat for Sunderland by Portsmouth and they lost 5-4 with it on penalties, something like that and apparently Jordan has been involved in a fraca so we'll have to wait and see what comes of that. It'll be frustrating if anything comes of this because after his an 60 other week on the 3-2 defeat against Newcastle and then going fed enough he's gone to watch Sunderland at Wemleys, a Sunderland fan I remember Jordan Henderson going there to watch Sunderland a few years ago. I think he's got to remember that he's an Everton player at the minute and keep a little bit of that professionalism about him and saying this without knowing too much about this story. Obviously, it is Ped's just passing me it now. Everton's statement, the club has been made aware of an alleged incident involving one of our players and we are looking into the matter. So, quite clearly Everton having to do a bit of an investigation in it. I just don't think Jordan needs it, he needs to just take a low profile at the moment and just get his head down and you know he's England's number one goalkeeper as well and it'd be stupid to start letting things get the better of him so hopefully Everton look at it, nothing comes of it and he moves on with it. That is it for the news daily today, if you haven't sub please do so, it takes a sec, you want my videos.  Thank you for watching.


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If you are new to the channel, I am Gold Pony I am in staga source and today we are going to be driving a Rao stage 3 Mustang a 2015 and competition orange guys remember that color before orange fury came out definitely a sweet-looking color But got me thinking though getting a new Mustang GT versus getting a pre-owned Rao stage 3 Mustang with nearly 700 horsepower They're right around the same price at this point So it is apples to apples as far as pricing goes So kind of curious what this one is going to be like and of course super excited because it is a high horsepower car So let's head off to Bob Ruth for the Dillsburg PA here and we should be there in approximately I don't know three to five seconds So you guys I told you it was only like three to five seconds. We are here Let's go for you guys in the comments section below is the 2019 Mustang worth getting for the Roush you guys This is a 2015. It looks like the trunk open. Yep trunks open There we go. Anyways, this is a 2015. This is the one we're going to be driving stage 3 Let's go get the keys And so we are now in the 2015 Roush stage 3 Mustang and dang I can tell you guys off the bat the crackle on this active exhaust system is Amazing before I get ahead of myself as always let's start with pricing on this one And so back in 2015 the Roush stage 3 Mustang MSRP for $55,235 with options you can go up to around $70,000 on this one believe it or not, but today you can now get a Roush stage 3 Mustang 2015 year for under $50,000 and that is quite a lot of bang for your buck Considering the power output on this one powering the stage 3 Roush is going to be a 5-liter Roush supercharged V8 engine putting out 670 horsepower 145 pound-feet of torque sent to the rear wheels through a standard six-speed manual transmission and the six-speed manual transmission Is actually quite nice and I've always liked the MT82 from the 2015 to 2017 model year It definitely shifted very nice easy to find the grab points and they are very short throws as well So if you're thinking with 670 horsepower, it may be difficult to drive a six-speed It is not you will get used to it and it is actually quite nice paired up in this one But so with all those specs 0 to 60 time comes in an approximately 3.7 seconds and so therefore you guys know what I have to do next as always Let's give this thing a little bit of gas here and let's do a quick little acceleration test See how quickly we can get this 2015 Roush stage 3 up to speed It is a blustery 40 degrees today, so there was a slight bit of spin there But in normal conditions with this one the Roush stage 3 does come with cooper rs 3 tires So they are quite sticky again, but it's not freezing temperatures outside with a set of drag radials on this one This could very easily be a 10 second car, but so then you may be wondering what else does the Roush stage 3 Mustang actually give you Let me tell you probably one of my favorite parts the Roush active exhaust And that button is going to be just to the right of the shifter And I will say the button itself kind of looks like an afterthought it doesn't really match with anything But the fact that it has an active exhaust is pretty darn sweet It's so essentially what that does since the Roush does add quad tips in the back the standard Mustang GT 15 through 17 year Actually just had the dual exhaust outlets with dual tips So the Roush did add the quad tips as they are today that comes standard But you can actually see within those quad tips if you have it in let's say the normal touring exhaust mode It is going to open up the valves on the outside then when you put it in that track mode It is going to open up the valves on the inside of those quad tips. So you guys know what we have to do next Let me actually give you a comparison between that touring active exhaust mode and the track active exhaust mode So as always here is that exhaust clip And so as we are carving through these back roads in pa here that leads me into the suspension and handling on this one Because once again Roush has modified that to make the standard GT even better For example, there is now a Roush three way coilover suspension setup with heavy duty half shafts and again stick your Cooper RS 3 tires and when it comes to the steering feel just like the standard Mustang GT There is a steering mode toggle switch just in front of the shifter there But it's going to give you normal mode sport mode and comfort and honestly in a car like the Roush I really see no reason to put it in any other steering feel mode other than sport It is a heavier feel to it when you put it in that sport mode and that is also the mode I leave it on in my own personal 2019 Mustang GT as well So that is definitely going to be the one you want to go with there But so then I've been continuously mentioning all the performance upgrades that the Roush stage 3 gives you There are actually several exterior Interior upgrades that this one is going to give you as well So let's touch on the exterior a little bit on this one And so a lot has been added to the aesthetics on the Roush stage 3 as well including an abundance of Roush logos They could be found absolutely everywhere on this one. Let me demonstrate But perhaps my favorite aesthetic upgrade on the Roush stage 3 Is the stylized dash plaque just above the glove box there So with that you're going to find Jack Roush's signature, but just below that there is a serial number specific to the Roush Mustang So what those numbers actually mean the first 15 is for the model year This is a 2015 that's going to be what the 15 stands for at the very end of it You're going to see the RS 3 that's going to be Roush stage 3 because there are three different stages 1 2 and 3 3 is the one that gives you the supercharger So that's definitely going to be the one you want but in the middle that 0 0 3 9 That is going to mean that this was the 39th Roush stage 3 to actually roll off the assembly line in 2015 So it is definitely pretty cool that they assign a serial number It definitely makes the car more unique and makes the owner even more proud to own a Roush So that is probably my favorite aesthetic addition to this one But to go along with that there's also a revised instrument cluster That was one of the first things I noticed there is Roush specific gauges. That is pretty cool There's also illuminated door sills and you can get Roush specific Recaro bucket seats Although the ones we have today though are the basic leather, but they are heated and ventilated So I am appreciative of that on this super cold Pennsylvania day we have today But make your way back out to the exterior on that front fascia You're going to find the stage number within that front grille So that's going to be what the three stands for up there And there is going to be a Roush specific front lip Roush specific hood as well There's also body side scoops that have been added These side scoops do continue on to the rear quarter window back there as well And you got the Roush badging on the front fender and that side L design decal That is also going to come standard on the Roush And I actually do think that decal looks quite nice on this one But also Roush specific 20 inch wheels That is also going to be an addition on this one But in the end Roush actually has a very cool history with Jack Roush Founding the company after being an employee for Ford Motor Company for quite a while And Roush is based in Livonia, Michigan They've been doing the racing thing for quite a while now Racking up championships with NASCAR, NHRA drag racing And 24 hours of Daytona as well So what I'm getting at basically is the name Roush is definitely synonymous with racing at this point And this Roush stage 3 is definitely a blast to drive A few minutes later Alright you guys so the question now becomes I want to hear from you guys because I love hearing your opinions in the comments section What would you rather get a brand new 2019 Ford Mustang GT With the ability to really modify it how you will Or would you rather get the 2015 Roush stage 3 Mustang with 670 horsepower And honestly probably an absolute blast in warmer temperatures Today it's 40 degrees out so we had a little bit of slipping going on there But with some warmer temperatures of course that would not have happened And quite honestly like I said I can easily see that being a 10 second car at the track Assuming the conditions are right of course So anyways I know this is probably a shorter video But I do want to hear from you guys Let me know which one you would pick in the comments section below And as always appreciate you guys watching Feel free to follow me on social media at the bottom of the screen there And I will see you guys in the next video Stay Gold There's the salesman once again What's up man? Oh wow it sits We're getting there Oh my god that's amazing


17 September is marked as World Patient Safe Today. This year, the theme is Safe Maternal and Newborn Care. The Lagos' mother, infant and child initiative, or Midge Initiative, has assisted for two years and is hosting this media pally to have a deep conversation about the security and well-being of pregnant women and their ability to birth healthy babies. The special advisor of the Office of Civic Engagement to the Lagos State Governor, Adere Mea Debowale, explains what Midge is about. What the Midge Programme tends to do is to make sure that our indigent pregnant women are eating well while they are pregnant, not just eating well, making sure they think about what goes into their stomach. Midge supports 50 women in each local government in Lagos State, according to his consultant, Jaffet Ulubugi. The program in each of the LGA, LCDA of Lagos and the women were given food parks, food parks which comprised carbohydrates, protein, vitamins, multivitamins. Agencies like the Lagos State Nutrition Office and private organizations are partnering with the Office of Civic Engagement on the Midge Initiative. We heard about this initiative right from the inception we've been partnering with. I, myself, my unit, nutrition unit, we did the analysis of the food park to see the food contents, the nutrient contents, and to what extent can it take care of. Midge is a great initiative. We're very happy to be part of it and we just employ every other person, every other organization out there if you have not come on board to quickly come on board. But they are criteria of selecting pregnant women for support. The individual must be resident in the particular LTA or LCDA where you intend to benefit from the food parks. The individual must also be registered with LASRA. Maternal and infant mortality are serious issues in Nigeria. We are one in every 123 live births and in the death of the mother, according to 2020 statistics from the World Health Organization, one in every 13 babies born in the country also doesn't make it past the first year. For Plus TV Africa, Ngoziqa, OHHC.


Sonya Shakat, there's a book, one of my favorite books, it's called True Balance, Sonya Shakat wrote it, and she said that whenever you're feeling an imbalance in the heart chakra to go outside, what do you see when you're outside? You see green, the color of the heart chakra. So get outside, ground it yourself in nature, and that's a great way to open up and clear the heart chakra.


All right, with that thundering intro, we're ready to go with this next session. I'm Alan Levine, your host for this. And I'm really excited to have my colleague. You may have heard of this guy, Martin Weller. We'll be hearing about Care and Community and the Gojiya Network, which is the global OER graduate network, which is a really fascinating project. And so Martin is representing Rob Farrow, Beck Pitt, and Kako Anesthe. So welcome, Martin. Thanks, Alan. Good to see you. Good to see everyone. I've also got the stream going on the side. So if you see me looking down at the side, it's because I want to see what everyone else is seeing. Hi, it's good to be here. So I'm going to be talking about Care and Community in the Gojiya Network, some of you might be familiar of the Gojiya Network, but I'll explain it if not. So start to talk. I'll talk about, you know, what the Gojiya aim to do and what we usually do. We've been going for about eight years now, and then 2020 comes along and how we have to think completely differently and what that meant and then sort of think about how did that go, what was it like and any sort of lessons we can learn from that. I'm hoping not to talk for all the time because there might be some Gojiya people in the audience and perhaps I'd like to hand over to them to say how it's been for them as well. Because I can tell you it's fantastic and they might go, God is all. So the Gojiya Ends, the Global OER Graduate Network was set up in 2013, 24, I forget now, when OER was still quite an emerging field. And the idea was to try and grow the global research community. There were a lot of advocates, a lot of people saying OER is a good thing, but not an awful lot of kind of grounded research in it. And it's founded by Fred Mulder of the OE Netherlands and then we took it on shortly after that at the Open University. So usually it's aimed at doctoral students and students who are studying at doctoral level in roughly the area of open educational resources, open educational practice. Now usually we take them on an annual seminar, we've been together for two sort of intensive days and that's allied to a conference either OER or OE Global. And then during the year, we also run a number of webinars, we've got very active social media presence, we send out newsletters, we share resources. We try to create this kind of very supportive network. We also give out to awards every year for best paper and best open educational practice, which we've named after Fred Mulder. And we try to not just get people to research into open educational practice or open educational resources, but also to model that practice as well. And so we spend a lot of time on encouraging that. So really I put the seminar in sort of bold in the previous slide, because that's really the kind of heart of what we do really. So we get together about 10 or 15 students, we bring them all to one place, one location, so that's been Cape Town, Galway, Delft, Crackoff and Bank, I think. And they all present their work to each other and we try to get them from different stages of their PhD journey. So some will be, some will have finished, some will be coming up to the end, some will be just starting. We try to get a spread across countries and regions, topics and methodologies. So they're also learning from each other. They give each other feedback on their presentations. And that can be quite an honest thing to do. They sort of say to this group, I'm really stuck on my research questions. Can you help me in a way perhaps that they couldn't do in other formats? And we also run sessions perhaps on developing European practice or getting published, surviving the PhD or even life after a PhD. And we've registered all the students at the conference they're associated with and then often they go on to present as well. That's really kind of intensive two days and the people that come to that really sort of form good friendships, often they go on to collaborate with each other long afterwards and we work together on projects. So our plan was in 2020, we were going to ally this with OE Global, which was going to be in Taiwan in November.  And that's quite difficult when such a kind of intensive face-to-face activities really kind of heart what you do it. And we see like, when we look back over our Twitter traffic or hits the website or downloads or anything, we always get a peek around the seminars because the people who are attending it are tweeting about GoGN and it's kind of a very active thing that's going on. So it's really, we wanted to try and recreate that kind of buzz that would happen, but that's much more difficult without that kind of face-to-face setting. So what did we do? Some of this we sort of planned to do anyway, so it wasn't all just a pivot, but some of it I think really helped to recreate some of that activity that we wanted. So we produced three outputs, which were co-produced with GoGN members. We asked them to contribute, so I'm not sure if Rob's in the audience, but Rob's here. Well, Prowro sort of led on these. So the first was a methodology report. And I mentioned that we tried to get people to come together with, we could use different methods. And now our members have used all the method you want out there. And so we thought it would be really useful in together to put together all the methods that they've used and why they chose to use them and how they were applicable in OER and OER practice. And Brian Mathers, I think also in the audience, he did some excellent graphics for us in that. And it made it a very kind of approachable document, even though it's a very deep document in many ways. And that's had over 7,000 downloads and was a winner, very global. And then in the summer, we did a research review. So here, Rob culled together a number of papers around OER research and these were reviewed by members and this gave their views and summarized the papers. That kind of gives you a really nice overview of kind of current research in the field. And then in December, we produced an annual report. So you can see all those there. Another thing we did was launched fellowships this year and three of these people have spoken or are speaking at OER this year as well. So I won't sort of steal their thunder but they're covering quite different topics actually. They've been really interesting. So this is a small bit of funding but it really kind of helps bridge that gap between when you finish doing your PhD and before you kind of manage to get major funding in and sort of sometimes continue the work for your PhD or try something a bit different. So kind of quite diverse topics and for people all around the globe. And we really felt we needed to ramp up the communications in the absence of that face-to-face seminar. So we set up a WhatsApp group. Nothing if not late to the game but we set up a WhatsApp group and that's been really useful actually. There's a lot of kind of just informal chat in there sort of people sharing things and how they feel and that's kind of a really nice sort of back channel. We arranged a number of dropping sessions. So usually at the seminars, we ask people if they want to have a chat with sort of two or more members of the team individually for them just to talk about how their research is going. And so we tried to recreate those and schedule them at different times. Just so people could sort of speak frankly, you know, I'm stuck or have you got any ideas about this and those kind of things to arrange those. We carried on running webinars which often usually Goji and members presented about their research. And we had seminars, one day seminars associated with OER 20. There was a Goji and Gaster special at the Old Summer Summit and we had a seminar for OER Global. And we really sort of made extensive use of Twitter so we run a rotor system, sorry, where each of us sort of takes it in turns to run that's trying to keep going and we make a juice in the newsletter as well. And I think in some ways that there's a real danger of overcommunication, I think in the years. We've got so many things going on by sort of firing stuff at our members all the time and that that can sometimes be difficult to benefit. So one of the things we also wanted to do was try and give members real benefits for joining GoGM. So they're automatically members of Alt now so they can just sign up, become their members of Alt which means they can get discounts to lots of conferences. We've given them reclaimed hosting sites if they want so they can have their own site for two years from reclaimed hosting. And we've paid for conference attendance at Summer Summit and ORI Global last year as well. So one of the things we wanted to do is we realized we keep adding these extras and we weren't really communicating that well so we created a nice little membership pack which include all these things. And they include the fabulous Brian Mathers images as well. You can see all the penguins dancing here so people can download those that are created commons license obviously and use them in their own presentations and things. And these were the award winners this year so we had one winner for the paper and two runners up and Jordan winners for best open educational practice. And this is a timeline of our activities. You can see we've kind of been trying to keep a thread of activity going throughout the year just to kind of keep that momentum going I think and to provide people with a place to come to and talk about things. Because often obviously lots of people were in mid research and then the pandemic comes along and if you've been planning things like focus groups or things like that you can be here as well and lots of people feeling quite lost or often the people who are our members are the people who universities and institutions are turning to so how do you do this open education thing? So how did it go? How am I doing this one? Okay, we gained 14 new members and we've got about 115 members so that's pretty good, we're not because we're quite strict on who could join we have to be registered to be doing a doctoral study it has to be in the right sort of area and the reports have said proved very popular. Try to follow an increased reasonable attendance at webinars. The last two I don't claim to be things that we've done but I think it's just an indication of of how important the network is and the influence of the people who are in that network now so there are 45 peer-reviewed articles published by Goju members and an excellent giant special issue which was edited by Sarah Lambert and Laura Chernowitz and Sarah was a Goju member and lots of Goju members contributed articles that was on open education and social justice. So we conducted a survey and these are the top five activities so connecting with Goju on social media something that everyone did or a good portion attended a Goju webinar joined in discussions, joined alts and attended one of the seminars. Benefits, webinars came out top actually I think people really appreciated the support for attending conferences just that they didn't have to try and negotiate funding from wherever they were and I mentioned that WhatsApp group it's a very nice sort of informal group that they often share ideas from and a lot of the papers and things they've collaborated on have come through that and these were the most important so the community of peers I think was probably the most obvious one now. So I think that's important because I think when we set Goju up it was really kind of trying to develop people's research expertise and make them give them sort of somewhere to talk about research but actually the research things come out lower and actually it's much more the kind of emotional support I think that's important to people and often now a member say that they're the only person at their institution or sometimes in their region or their country is actually interested in open education so joining Goju is a real kind of like life for our team. So here are nice things that people have said about us. I really value the support that the team give there's active leadership that seeks new opportunities that create strong human bonds that's important one that we care for the network. So I think just in terms of lessons I think the other activities we created did overall replace the activity profile for what we did in the seminar. So the same sort of traffic same sort of number of sign ups and those kind of things. So we managed to replicate that kind of buzz I think of that that reputational work but it wasn't easy. It was probably hard work that I mean, bringing everyone together from a face to a center is really hard work. You've got people flying all over the world you're arranging hotel accommodation, all that kind of stuff. Actually we're gonna try and conduct this stuff throughout the year to kind of keep that momentum going it's quite hard. I still think face to face is important. I think when we can get back together we probably will go back to that model but I think we've learned a lot from this as well. I worry that it's maybe more difficult for new members to break into a group online whereas if you bring, we always try to bring some new people to the seminars and once they meet other people they're then part of the GOGM massive. But one thing I would say is I think GOGM had always been a very caring network. So when the pandemic hit it wasn't difficult for us to know what we needed to do because care was kind of already ingrained in what we do. And I think that's very different but I think I saw lots of organizations last year who really based themselves around the kind of neoliberal model of selling services. When the pandemic hit it was like, they were confused or they didn't know what to do. It's like, how do we sell you something to this and some that then have gone to try and mercilessly try and sell people things. But I think you know, it was almost like they didn't know how to react in this time when people weren't interested in what they wanted was care and support. And for those of you who've been following the story I think you can see that with the European Super League and football teams in the UK recently. It's like those companies, that those football teams were so used to treating their fans as consumers that they were shocked then to find out that people actually wanted to be thought about and cared about and they don't know how to act that manner. Whereas I think we had that built in from the start. So just quickly looking forward, we've put our call already for us. We did the methodological handbook last year and Rob's even on a conceptual framework handbook this year. So I think those two combined will be really powerful tools. We're obviously running this workshop and we've launched a new fellowship scheme. In summer, there'll be the summer summer and we'll sponsor people to go to that if they want. And there'll be a second research review called for participation and hope to publish the conceptual framework by then and then also we'll run the survey again. And well, there's the GOGM seminar will be allied with Open Educational Global which is currently general to be in non-France but I think we still need to think about whether people could travel to that as it's still up in the air. And then at the end until we run the awards and publish the annual review. So that's that. Please get in touch and chat to us. Thanks, Brian, for the graphics as always. If we have time, I don't know if we have time, Meredith Allen, then we could ask if there are any GOGM members in the audience who want to speak to their experience of the past year? Yeah, they've been actively peppering the stream so we can see a lot of GOGM members and some new people and the care there is obvious. No major questions coming in but I can certainly see that, thinking about that, you have 100 plus members now that that's a benefit itself that will replicate as we can see as people are welcoming and expressing the care coming in. And I would say, when you do face to face like coming through this period, it's going to add even more to that. Yeah, Bec is... Bec's reminded me, quick plugs. We've got a webinar on the 5th of May which is from new members presenting about their work. So that's a good point. It's one of the things we had to do was one of the things we did was to try I think to overcome that kind of barrier for new members was to specifically target them and say, would you like to present about your work and send it kind of individually? And I think that kind of really helped them. So if you just say, would anyone like to present? Often if you're new, you might not want to speak up. So I think kind of making it better for it easier for them to come in. We have a red herring question from Rob. Is ice hockey better than football? It is, and that's why in the UK you'll stop going to football and go so fast. But, you know, you can see that this is obviously... The whole networking effect has gone beyond being about necessarily open education, as you mentioned. And so I think there's a lot that folks can learn about creating and supporting this kind of network. And so I just respect it's a nice balance between trying to run a program and then giving the latitude to people in the network to give it direction. Yeah, that's right. And I think it's really changed over the years. To be honest, you don't have that many PhDs which are really about OERs, shifted much more to kind of social justice and open educational practice, much like the OER conference, I think, in a way. But there's very few presentations here that are... Here's a resource I've created. It's much more about care and the community. And I think, and that's been really important to the other thing, just being in this project, you kind of see how much, as I mentioned earlier, the kind of emotional support is really important. And that's, I think it's interesting because when you produce project proposals, giving emotional support is really something you build into the proposal, you know, but what's the KPI? What was the metric for emotional support? The number of hugs you've given, you know, you haven't had to count the stuff, but actually it's really important, you know. There's a good question from Laura about how people who aren't necessarily not PhD... Yeah, so thanks, Laura. So we have two categorizations. So we have members who are the PhD doctoral students and we have GoGN friends. So you can join as a friend and then you'll get a lot of the newsletter and the updates and things we're doing. Oh, that's fantastic. I would expect you'll get a lot more friend requests right now. We can definitely be friends, Laura. Oh, well, this has been fantastic.  Yeah, the WhatsApp groups are a good place as well. Oh, great. Let's, like the chat says, let's give Martin up and everybody in GoGN, Rob and Beck and Paco, a round of applause for sharing this program. Thanks, Alan. Thanks everyone. Om nom nom.


Hello and welcome to the session. The given question says, if set theta plus tan theta is equal to p, prove that sin theta is equal to p square minus 1 divided by p square plus 1. Let's move on to the solution. Now we have to prove that sin theta is equal to p square minus 1 divided by p square plus 1. And this is the right hand side. Now we shall start with the right hand side to show that it is equal to the left hand side of what we have to prove, which is sin theta. So right hand side is p square minus 1 divided by p square plus 1. On substituting the value of p we have, set theta plus tan theta whole square minus 1 divided by set theta plus tan theta whole square plus 1. Now this is further equal to set square theta plus tan square theta plus 2 times of set theta into tan theta minus 1 whole divided by set square theta plus tan square theta plus 2 times of set theta into tan theta plus 1. And thus we have written by using the identity that a plus b whole square is equal to a square plus b square plus 2 times of a into b. Now we know that 1 plus tan square theta is equal to set square theta. So by using this this can further be written as, now set square theta minus 1 is equal to tan square theta. There is one more tan square theta so we have 2 times of tan square theta plus 2 set theta into tan theta whole divided by, now here tan square theta plus 1 is equal to set square theta and 1 set square theta is already in the denominator. So again we have 2 times of set square theta plus 2 times of set theta into tan theta. Now let us take the common terms from the numerator and denominator outside. So we have 2 times of tan theta which is common in both the terms on the numerator. So we are left with tan theta plus set theta. Now take it 2 set theta common from the denominator we have set theta plus tan theta. Now cancelling the common terms from the numerator and denominator we have tan theta divided by set theta. Now tan theta is sin theta divided by cos theta. Set theta is 1 divided by cos theta. So this is further equal to sin theta divided by cos theta into cos theta divided by 1. Again on cancelling cos theta from the numerator and denominator we have sin theta and this is the right hand side. Therefore we have that sin theta is equally equal to p square minus 1 divided by p square plus 1. So this proves hope you have understood it well. Bye and take care.


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Joe Jaspy here from jaspyscasebrakes.com. Come at you live from a very quiet national, right? Everybody's out, but the break of the feeling can stay open a little bit later for tonight. It's a last night. Tomorrow will be regular national convention hours. But live here, Atlantic City, and thanks to everybody who filled up another case of 2022 tops tier one baseball 12 box, pick your team number 11. With a little bit of luck with the time that we have left for tonight, you do have a chance at maybe knocking out another tier one. So if you're watching live right now, go to jaspyscasebrakes.com. Let's do it. Big thanks to this group right here. Remember, we don't have a printer, so just kind of show it this way. Gary, Lasvon Mojo, Royals. Thanks everybody for grabbing your teams. Appreciate it. So there you go. Thanks everybody. Slip back over here. Now this is, this is how I hit my knee on the table leg. It hurt. If you see right here, this is stickered with the name of the product. I don't know what that means. I've never seen that before, but we didn't do it. Someone else did it. Maybe this case is a special. All right, good luck gang. What's going? What's up man? All right, so let's see what we got here. Ah, man. Is it good? I don't know. I'll find out, okay. All right, good luck everybody. First one out of the gate is Kutch. Andrew McCutcheon, that's for the fight and fills. And that will be for Rob and the Phillies. It's out of 3.99, Phillies edition. We got, we got a Derrick Lee. Remember him, 133 out of 2.99. This is Marlins edition of Derrick Lee. That will be for, for Austin and the Marlins. Austin Caruso, Alex's brother. Possibly, probably not. And down here is, that's what I thought it was. Rookie Otto O'Neill Cruz. That's one, come on O'Neill. Riding over the number 94 out of 2.99. Come on O'Neill. Nice one for the buckos. That'll be for, that's Austin as well. There you go Austin. O'Neill Cruz, one of the hobby hot players of the year.   Oh really? Oliver saying Sack Towns Fines. I didn't realize that Derrick Lee was a sacramentan. Sacram, sacrament, sacramentonian? A sacramentan. All right, next one is Harman Kilibrew. 55 out of 99. Hey Tyler is saying, I'm surprised we haven't seen any redemption. Remember this is, these products, a lot of these recent baseball products are under the, are under the Fanatics umbrella now. So maybe that's a sign of things to come. Kilibrew for the twins, that's gonna be for DY. Is mom checked in and everything? She's good, nice. There's Fran Milrez to 2.99. Cleveland, this is for you. That will be for the Guardians. That'll be for Corey. Okay, so there are a couple of redemptions in there in the wild. What? 7 out of 25. Who's the brave? We had a problem with the phone though, or the account. No, it logged us out. Oh, someone created a new password, I've seen that though. Yeah. Otherwise, Chicago Whitesaw, it's Alan Murdoch. There you go Alan, that's for you. Yeah, but it's pretty cool, right? Pretty, pretty cool. Next up is Dylan Carlson Duel Relic. 9 out of 25 for the Redbirds. The four, Walter and the Cardinals. Couple autos here, we got Jake Meyers, 77 out of 2.99. Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake. Jakey, Jake, Jake. What's that from Teddy? Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake. Jake. Oh, Jakey, Jake, Jake. Oh, Jake, I didn't know I like to get wet. No? Training day? Denzel Washington. It's a good movie. Astros, it's for Rex. And there's Hyunjin Roo. 2.91 out of 2.99 for the Bluebirds. I'm a bluebird, I'm a bluebird, bluebird. Do you know that song? Paul McCarty and Winks. Bluebird, bluebird, bluebird. All right, Tayson calls mom. Nice, nice, Teddy. You're a good son. 3.77 out of 2.99. Call your mothers, ladies and gentlemen. Joshua Jones and the Giants. Remember the band Jesus Jones? Absolutely, right here, right now. Right here, right now. Unbelievable. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. There's Austin Meadows. It's been a long day, folks. Austin Meadows. 1.74 out of 2.99. And there's Joe, oh, Tampa Bay. That's gonna be Joshua Jones with the Rays and the Joe Ryan, little Joe Mojo. I think Walter has the minute. No, DY has a Minnesota twin to this one. There you go, nice. Logan Webb, another of Sacktown's Finest. Doesn't, Logan Webb kind of looks like, what does he look like? No, I should make fun of the way he looks. Like Max Muncie's brother, maybe? Or maybe like Wayne Woonie's cousin. There is Danzby Swanson. 1.79 out of 3.49 for the ATL. Kind of that cream-colored jersey sort of look there. That will be for, that'll be for Lonnie Cornett. Kyle Lewis, 88 out of 1.99. We guys know this line. Where's the car, Lewis? Lewis, where's the car, Lewis? Lonnie with the Seattle Mariners. Come on, Lewis, where's the car? There's Dave Winfield, 79 out of 99. I think drafted by probably every major sport, right? That's for the Yankees. That's Yankees' edition going to Gary. There you go, Gary. This is definitely some tier one talent. That was the movie Jackie Brown. I think Lewis was the character that DeNiro played. And the blonde woman that was, the blonde woman that was there. Was that, was that Bridget Fonda, maybe? There's my, where's the sponge piece that I used to cover up these hits? Did I lose it? Lost it. I watched the first episodes. Are you talking about the Derek Jeter one? I watched the first couple episodes, but I have not watched all of them since. I think, are they all out? I mean, I'll binge them all at once. There's Kike. Miss this guy. This is Red Sox edition 347 out of 399. And that will be for Greg and the Red Sox. Yeah, I'm with you, Sam. I think I'm waiting to kind of binge through it. There is Nick Fortes, 272 out of 299 for the Miami Marlins, Austin with the fish. And there's Will the Thrill, Will Clark, 92 out of 149. Will the Thrill, Joshua with my rivals, the Giants. My cousin, Dan, who's a Giants fan, is a lefty kind of emulated Will Clark's batting stance, his familiar batting stance. We're halfway there, right? One, two, three, four, five, six. Yeah. Halfway through his full case break. Another 10, 15 minutes to go. Now folks, we've got to wrap things up. Probably the last break has to happen in about an hour. We're hoping we can maybe squeeze in another tier one before we have to call it a night before we have to get out of here. There's Hank Aaron, 002 out of 149. Is that right? Will Clark getting his number retired on the 30th? Greg's Hank, Hank Aaron, Hammer and Hank going to line. There's Coolhuit, Maryfield, 88 out of 399. Coolhuit going to Gary and the Royals, last bottom mojo. We've got Cedric Mullins, 192 out of 299. That will be for Baltimore. That would be Sportport. I feel like the lighting is not quite right. I think they turned off like half the lights here. And we've got Seth Beer, 178 out of 299. Oh, no, thank you, Greg, but no. If it was Dodger's edition of Kike, I would say yes. I would accept your kind offer, but I will decline your kind offer. Pop that up on eBay. Give it to someone who, a Red Sox fan, who certainly appreciate that more than me. Thank you, though. Next box. Oh, Seth Beer, mm, beer. Goes to Gary. Diamondbacks. And we've got 194 out of 299. Alex Kearlaw, that is a former number one overall pick, I think, for DY and the Twins. We've got Eloy Jimenez, 151 out of 299. Piece of his game use lumber right there. Nice. Alan Murdoch with the shy socks. And there's Joe Barlow, 106 out of 299. He's still closing games with the Rangers? Texas, that's gonna be for Jason, Jason W. You know, someone, I think Rex mentioned that earlier today. There's Hyunjin Roo, again, different photo. I think different insert, different autograph set. That's 43 out of 50 for the Royals. That's gonna be, I'm reading the chat. I'm like Ron Burgundy, right here. Joshua Jones. Yeah, I think Rex mentioned that, too. But Andrew Bantini did end up getting trade to the Yankees. He's now facing the Yankees. That's gotta be kind of weird, right? You think Benny accidentally went to the visitor's locker room? There's Derek Jeter, 131 out of 249. I wonder if the latest documentary on Jeter has helped. The Valley has always been pretty solid on the secondary market, but it's helped even more. There's Otto Lopez, an Otto Otto. 67 out of 299. Toronto, Joshua. Oh, the Jeter, by the way, goes to Gary. And Toronto, once again, is Joshua. And we got Burt Blylavin. That's California Angels edition of Burt Blylavin. 208 out of 299. And that is gonna be Gary and the Halos. Nice one, Gary. Three boxes to go, boys and girls. Oh, I think we got one of those Clear One autographs. Thanks, DJ. Actually a button down Jersey. Jaspy Jersey there. Yeah, me too, Gilo, because I thought they were on Ben and Tendi, and then I thought they were off on Ben and Tendi. And then they're like, why not just get Ben and Tendi? The Yankees are saying 363 out of 399, Lorenzo Cain. That is for the Brew Crew. James with the Brewers. And for Gary and the Yankees, 129 out of 299. All rise, Aaron Judge. Pinstripe Relic. This man has been killing the ball, crushing the ball this season. Increable. We got Yasmine Grandal for the South Siders. That's gonna be Allen, I believe. Yeah, Allen with the Chicago White Sox. Yeah, the kind of my University of Miami colors, right? I think we were kind of going with like the colors of our logo. So we just took the orange and the green of the, but I guess when it's put together like this, especially with the black in the middle. Yeah, it does look like a lot like, a lot like the University of Miami. There's Reese Hoskins, one out of 10. Nice. Kind of see his autograph right there. That's really cool. I think that's just some little dust. Probably clean that off a little bit right there to make that look real sharp. But yeah, nice clear one autograph for, who's got the fine fills? This text is kind of small on my list here. Rob does. Same banks as color blanks. It's just like, it's just ponderous colors, right? I mean, I need more top loaders. I need more 100s. 100s, like some old 100s. Final two boxes, good luck everybody. Now, as you know at the national, we're always kind of pressed for time. There may be some abrupt endings at some points. And since we're dependent on some other people to help us out here at the national, to secure our stuff in a safe location, we're beholden to their time and their kindness as well. So if you wanna get another one done, let's get that done sooner rather than later. 202 out of 299, Beau Bichette. And away games is often like that. Home games, obviously we're all, we're at the comforts of home. We can always stretch out the time and all that stuff. But here we cannot, especially tomorrow. Tomorrow will be even more pressed for time. There's 21 out of 25 Riley Adams, Gold Inc. autograph for Gary and the Nats. And then back here is the Biebs. Shane Bieber. 109 out of 149. Cleveland, this is for you. Horry with Cleveland. One more box. One more box. Fingers crossed, good luck everybody. Breaker's got me feeling so free. One more box. All right, we got Garrett Cole. Is Garrett Cole have a nickname? What kind of baseball name? Cole, old Cole's? Cole'sy? Cole'sy, that's the old baseball nickname, right? Cole'sy. What about Cole? Do you think he ever gets a Cole slaw? It doesn't sound great. I mean, I like Cole slaw, but maybe not. Cole train, that's okay, okay. Kind of like that. Garrett, John Cole train. All right, we got Teej, Teej Fredl. It's 11 out of 2.99. Rookie Otto for the Red Legs. Josh Proust. And last but not least is Orlando Sepeta. 172 out of 199 for the San Francisco baseball giants. Joshua with the gigantes. There you go gang. I'm Joe for jasky'scasebrakes.com. Thanks for watching. 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Good afternoon, everyone. We're so happy that you're here, watching theCUBE live on day one of our coverage of Google Cloud Next 23 from San Francisco. Moscone itself specifically is where we are. Lisa Martin with Dustin Kirkland. We're going to be having a great conversation next about the value of generative AI. If you happen to catch the keynote this morning, a lot of famous characters on stage, lots of news on AI and gen AI. We've got Ted Quattler here, field CTO of DataRobot, welcome. Thank you for having me. I've been in a garage, in a garage in Israel, I'm sorry. Vice President of Data Science and Analytics at GANET, USA Today Network. Welcome guys, great to have you. Yeah, speaking of the news, huh? Let's talk about the news. Let's talk about the news. Guys, talk about some of the things, did you, were you in the keynote this morning? No, actually I had to be here answering questions at the booth about generative AI. All the news, talk about, Ted, you were working. Talk a little bit about, give us kind of a glimpse into the value gen, German gen AI. What does that look like? Lots of news from Google this morning. Lots of good news, absolutely. But I think organizations really have to focus on how to go from kind of that innovation and thinking about where it could fit to actually delivering value to the enterprise. I think that focus really is taking shape now and will continue to do so over the next 12 months probably. For us, I think it's about being flexible. Models are coming up all the time and we want to make sure that we're flexible and avoiding technical debt, only building in one direction. Everyone's talking about gen AI all over the globe. We can't not talk about it, but there's, and this potential is huge, but there's also some barriers to success. Ted, talk about some of those barriers and how DataRobot can help customers really start dialing down or removing some of those barriers. Yeah, absolutely. And I think the truth of the matter is there's 140 or more open source LLMs. There's a lot of proprietary LLMs. They're all great. They, you know, but you need to have an ability to evaluate them, right? And I think the monitoring and governance aspect is where a place like DataRobot really shines. We can help measure for toxicity, cost, truthfulness, a bunch of different dimensions, all on one platform, no matter which LLM you choose. Arvind, tell us a little bit about your company, what you guys are doing, and then we'll get into the partnership. Yeah, at Genet USA Today, we own the USA Today Network, which is our national publishing outlet. Along with that, we also own more than 200 local publishing outlets as well across the US and UK. So maybe connect us, connect the dots, all the way from the end user customer subscriber to a USA Today property. Walk that all the way back to DataRobot and then ultimately Google Cloud and show us how all this, you know, AI technology is impacting the lives of presumably millions of people, right? Yeah, that's a great question. As Ted pointed out, we have a problem of plenty, right? So, Gen AI is a rapidly evolving field and there are thousands of ways to, you know, put together an end-to-end application and at Genet, we want to be really thoughtful and measured about, you know, how we leverage Generative AI.   So, you know, immediately before the consumer we'll have, you know, our editor who is just looking at the output that was generated by a Generative AI application, you know, having the ability to, you know, edit it or approve it and, you know, send the feedback loop to, you know, whether the application works well or not. And then there are like so many steps in the process right from, you know, getting the right LLM on board, you know, development, maintenance of the model, monitoring the model, adding the governance layer. Well, I have to think, you know, some of what we heard today from Google and the keynote and others, some of the new features around attributions, being able to connect directly back, you know, you ask a Generative AI a question, how do you ensure that it's not hallucinating and it's just not making up something? That's got to be super important in your industry too. Yeah, absolutely, we have the ability to provide a confidence score with a model and you want to know what words in your query are driving the response, what words from the vector database are most relevant in the response. And then of course you would want a site, like I have a citation if possible, and say we believe that this summarization came from this chunk or from this article. I think especially in media, you know, what is truth in our interpretation of live events, we've seen that that is super impactful on so many different dimensions, that it's important that we have those types of guardrails in place. Go ahead. Sorry, it's powerful to have, you know, the citations of, you know, how did this output come about and also enabling the ability for the human in the loop to provide feedback, you know, to enable learning of the model and fine-tuning the model, it's critical. It is critical. Arvind, talk a little bit about why you chose to work with DataRobot and Google. You know, you had me at the confidence factor because that's one of the huge challenges. Yeah, absolutely. I worry about it. Right. But what was the sort of deciding factors that really told you DataRobot is the right technology with Google Cloud to do it? Yeah, so I mean, first of all, we are strategic. Google is a strategic partner of ours. You know, Google is a unified platform that has data and AI. So it's a one-stop shop for us. And a lot of our machine learning models, the predictive AI models, we have been building on Vertex AI. And, you know, DataRobot is really flexible in the sense that they could fit into like any step in that end-to-end process and help us with automation, you know, of those models. And they also help us extend, you know, the feature set of a model, where for example, in an existing, you know, model like forecasting or propensity modeling, we could leverage DataRobot just to provide the monitoring, you know, and the observability aspects of that model. So it's pretty synergistic how we work with Google and DataRobot. Talk a little bit, Ted, about the competence factor. We're going to go back to that in a minute. Because it sounds to me like that may be an element of differentiation for DataRobot. Can you talk a little bit about that from that, why DataRobot perspective and how that might be one of those obvious no-da, why? Yeah, so over the last decade, DataRobot has really pioneered a lot of ML ops and governance, and we always thought that what we wanted to do is build a stable enterprise grade models on the predictive kind of good old-fashioned AI, right? So along comes LLMs, language models are a couple years old, but in particularly these instruct models, these chat models, we thought, you know, rather than jump into a very crowded space, building our own LLMs, where the technology is going to iterate and be nascent, we decided we should be really focused on how do you monitor and make enterprises feel comfortable with this type of technology? Yeah, so let me clarify that. So there's a lot of LLMs out there. For sure.  We're not, we want you to bring the best of Brie tool and use any vector database. What I will say is we have very tight integrations with like BigQuery, we can do a lot of the feature engineering's there, we can monitor vertex models, we can monitor palm, med palm, you know, we have demos of med palm and others. So we want people to use the tools that are best suited for their task, but you want an ability to measure costs, toxicity, confidence of the output, right? Arvind, share some of the, you guys have been working together for a few months now, I believe. What are some of the outcomes or the benefits that GANET USA today has gleaned so far from this partnership? Yeah, you know, with DataRobot, we've already automated multiple steps in the machine learning life cycle for hundreds of our models now. You know, and these are models mostly in the realm of predictive AI as of now. And what that allows is it creates efficiencies and saves time for my team of data scientists, you know, with steps like data pre-processing automated, model building automated, and you know, just governance of those models and you know, measuring just the performance of those models, all automated. So we can, you know, allow the data scientists to go do what, you know, they're really passionate about and build more and build more partnerships within our organization rather than, you know, just putting the head down and coding all through. So those automations really help. And we believe that that partnership can extend to the generative AI realm as well. And we've already started talking about, you know, partnering on, you know, proof of value of sorts to start building generative AI applications together. Yeah, yeah, along those lines, how much of it is it the learning versus the inferencing, are you taking advantage of both, you know, customizing the content? You know, how are you packaging that up for those end users and subscribers? So we are, like I mentioned, really thoughtful about which use cases to prioritize, right? So for now, we are prioritizing use cases that generate efficiencies for our teams. So our teams can reinvest that time into just adding more value for our audiences and creating, you know, richer content experiences for our audiences. So it's all about, again, enabling our teams to, you know, just do what they do faster, more efficiently, be more confident about the output. So we are prioritizing those kinds of outputs now. Share a little bit about, from the audience perspective, we're so demanding, right? We want relevant content, we want personalized content, we want to believe it. We want it to be updated in real time.  The cultural appetite clearly is there to go in the generative AI direction. A lot of companies are dipping their toe in the water, not really sure where to go, but there's always a challenge when it's a history to organization. Talk about the appetite at your organization to go the AI direction, to help really serve the audience and give them what they want. Yeah, you know, we have one of those companies that are like tipping our toe in the water, we are still in pretty much in the experimentation phase in that journey as well. And we are trying to strike the right balance between moving fast, but being sure about how we are going about it because, again, like you said, getting our customers to trust us with the content that they're consuming is really critical for us. So, which is again why we are prioritizing use cases that just for now helps create efficiencies within a workflow rather than use cases that directly engage with the audiences. We're really strategic about the use cases we prioritize. Ted, talk a little bit about healthcare. I think you guys made some announcements recently. Yeah. What are some of the key use cases where data robot is helping healthcare organizations adopt AI? Yeah, absolutely. So you think about healthcare is this space where you have this dialogue with your doctor or care provider where you're processing a lot of information. Sometimes you don't even understand all of it, right? And it's a great use case for summarization. So we actually announced something with one of our customers where you can observe and have the audio for a patient dialogue. It gets summarized, put it into the doctor's notes so that improves the doctor throughput. That means they can see more patients or spend more time with you. And you also then have the ability to have advocacy, right? Because now I can understand it. I can ask for it to be explained in a way that I can understand it. Oh, what is this drug? What are the side effects, right? You start building out these very specialized language summarizations. I think there's a real value to patient care there. Yeah, so in that scenario, and I'm asking this as a former product manager, in that scenario, who do you look at as your customer? Is it the patient receiving the care? Or is it indirect? Is it B2B2C? Are you selling that to the doctors in the hospitals? Yeah, what I'll say as someone who used to run our AI ethics group is that I would actually focus on the person who's most impacted. So that's the patient. If you nail that and it comes with the right and efficiencies, the others will fall into place. If you go after, oh, I'm going to sell into the healthcare space without thinking about the patient, you could miss the mark and actually do patient harm from an AI and responsible AI perspective. That's the worst case scenario. Right, and so tying this back to Gannett and USA Today, you certainly look at the content absorber, that subscriber, as the end customer and you're serving all that together. If you build for that person and they're happy, and in that case, they may not be happy, it's a medical examination, right? But if their needs are met in a way that's ethically sound, that you can feel confident in the summarization, then I think it will pay dividends, I think, for the patient and the doctors, the healthcare providers. I think it's all about centering everything around just driving value for that end consumer, right? It's as simple as that. You don't want to miss the mark, I would say, you know? No, but you bring up a great point. It was a great point that you brought up about in terms of who are you selling to, to your point, you need to understand the use case from the customer's perspective, the patient's perspective, the subscriber's perspective, the banking consumer's perspective and really understand what problems do they have that we can help solve and how do we then work with the organization to apply technologies like Gen AI, Vertex AI, to help solve and meet the needs that the ultimate absorber of that has. Yeah, absolutely, and I think generative AI and these chatbots have shown the average consumer wants to interact with machine learning technology in an intuitive and contextualized way. These predictive models have been out there for years. Language models have been out there for years, but putting a chat interface and allowing that, and you see this hyper growth of users, it shows that that's the way to really interact with people. When DataRobot does a lot of its very sensitive machine learning work with our customers, we often start with an impact assessment, and we don't talk about just the impact to the business, talk about often the people who are most at risk, what's their impact, how do we mitigate that risk? That's a great viewpoint. What's next for Gannett USA today from an AI kind of journey perspective, Arvind? No, so we've already implemented a couple of generative AI use cases that you're still testing, learning about the opportunities and the pitfalls of leveraging a powerful and rapidly evolving technology like generative AI. And we have a long list of potential use cases that we've, again, we've sort of scored them against our ability to pull it off. How much value does it drive for? The subscriber, how feasible it is, and so on and so forth. So we already have a prioritized list of use cases that we again, we'll continue experimenting and we'll keep learning by doing. And that's where partners like Google and DataRobot come in and we lean on them to execute on that vision. Sounds like a very symbiotic, strategic partnership. Last question, Ted, for you, take us out. What are some of the things that we can expect from DataRobot in the next, say, six to 12 months? Any sneak peeks you can give us? Well, I would say I think there's a few things I'm very excited about. One would be our AI play, or our generative AI playground so people can have the same prompt, choose different models, evaluate their responses, and really feel comfortable if this is the right one. I think we're going to see a further merger of predictive and generative together. So not that I'm just giving you a prediction that Arvin is 82% likely to re-subscribe at USA Today, but why is that, why? And I can start contextualizing that. That comes to MLLM, so it's not just the point prediction. I think we're going to see this merger of technologies. Very soon. Cool stuff. Guys, thank you so much. It was a pleasure. For joining Dustin and me on the program. Sharing the use case, you know, what you're doing to more than dip your toe in the gen AI water and how DataRobot and Google are facilitators. We appreciate your insights and your time. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. Our pleasure, guys. For our guests and Dustin Kirkland, I'm Lisa Martin. You're watching theCUBE live, day one coverage of Google Cloud Next 23, live from Moscone Center. Stick around, our next guest joins our analysts in just a minute.