You are listening to the number one fitness, health and entertainment podcast. This is mine pump in today's episode. We got some live questions asked by listeners. They called in, asked us a question and we helped them out. That happened in the back half of the episode, but the front half is the intro portions where we talk about current events. We have a lot of fun conversation. We also mentioned our sponsors. So let me give you a breakdown of today's entire episode. We open up by talking about protein rice, believe it or not. If you make your rice with bone broth, our favorite is kettle and fire. You'll have rice that's got a lot of protein in it and it tastes delicious, delicious. By the way, kettle and fire, in our opinion, makes the best bone broth. It's of course made with real ingredients. It's super convenient. You just warm it up, rich in collagen protein. So if your protein is low, it's you can drink the protein or do what I did and make the protein rice. And because you listen to my pump, you get a discount on their products. Just go to kettleandfire.com forward slash mine pump. Use the code mine pump for 20% off. Then we talked about our diets over the weekend and Adam's disgusting diet over the weekend. Actually, he had a lot of wieners in his mouth and some wieners crazy. Then I talked about Adolf Hitler winning an election in Africa. I'm not making this up. What actually happened? He's back. Then we talked about somebody who worked in the Department of Defense saying that UFOs are real. It's like the third or fourth important person to say that. This is the weirdest of weird years ever. Then Justin dropped some science on Mars. Then I talked about a new form of kung fu that I learned about over the weekend called iron crotch. It's kind of crazy. Sounds like you need to rub some ointment on that. Then Justin talked about his handyman skills that he displayed this weekend. We talked about worrying about our kids. I talked about kids going back to school. And then I asked Adam and Doug about using a sous vide to make meat. Apparently it makes meat phenomenally, especially grass-fed meat. Now our favorite source of grass-fed meat comes from butcher box. They have great sourced meat. It's healthy. It's got high. It's higher and healthy fatty acids and key nutrients. It's also inexpensive because they eliminate a lot of the middlemen and they deliver it right to your door. And of course, because you listen to Mind Pump, you actually get an exclusive offer. Go check it out. Go to butcherbox.com forward slash mind pump. And don't forget to use the code Mind Pump. And I believe right now they're running a promotion where you get bacon for life, which sounds crazy, but it's real. Then we got into answering the live questions. The first question was from Spencer from Vancouver Island. He wanted to know if he was a creatine non-responder. The next question came from Sadie from Nevada. She asked us what the best way was to improve her pull-ups. The third question was asked live from Jason from Florida, wanted to know how he could improve his baseball swing. And then the last question we took was from Grant from Arizona. He wanted to know how to address orthorexia. Also, all month long, we've put together a bundle for three different types of people. We have a workout bundle for beginners, intermediate lifters, and those of you that are advanced. So what we did is we combine multiple workout programs to give you essentially nine months of expert workout programming. Then what you do is you go to mapsdecember.com, go to the site. Find the bundle that works best for you.  If you're intermediate, you're going to want to do the body transformation bundle. And if you're advanced, you do the new year's extreme intensity bundle. By the way, all of them include one year free access to our private forum. So if you have any questions or you need support, go to the Mind Pump private forum. It is an exclusive group that you will have, again, access to for free for a year. Ask any questions. We have a lot of trainers and fitness enthusiasts on there, as well as myself, Adam and Justin, who periodically make appearances. Now all these bundles are discounted tremendously. Okay. So normally if you were to enroll in one of these programs without this promotion, you'd spend over $300 or close to $300. All of them are far, far less. Go to mapsdecember.com. Find the bundle that works best for you and your goals. Sign up. All of them come with a 30 day trial. So in other words, you can sign up, follow the programs.  One more time, it's mapsdecember.com. Protein rice is back, boys. Yes, it is. Protein rice is back. It's that time of year. This is a great, what a great way to sneak in 20 to 30 grams of protein into rice. Yeah. You make it more digestible. You make it with bone broth. Did you make that recently? Yep. You did? Yep. You get to pick your flavor or whatever, like the beef, the kettle on fire, instead of water, use bone broth, add, I like to make it salty, maybe add some butter and you basically have rice protein rice. I'm going to have to do that to rice.  So we're ready to apply it. Are you guys, so she's making it on her own or should put the bone?  I love it. I know. It's a good winter treat. That's a waste when we have sponsors that send it to us for free. Oh, it is. But also, it's what I've been doing. Yeah. Could be an easier process. How's your guys' diet been through the holidays? Are you good? You bad? You kind of like whatever? How's everybody doing? Oh, I feel like you're targeting me right now. No, I'm not, dude. You just, you look good right now. Bro, I. Beautiful. It's the, you're like 225 right now? No, no. It's those cheap shirts that you keep mine that don't fit you really well. That doesn't, it doesn't do well when you're getting bulky. It's not that cheap. It's, dude, I haven't weighed, I'm 220 right now. Yeah. You know the last time I weighed 220? I think it was like nine years ago. It's been a long time. Really? Yes. Not since we've been, not since we've been podcasting. No. So this is a, this is a beefiest you've been. Yeah, dude, I'm, I'm, I'm entering into cake category. I'm the, I'm the cake stirrer. My, my, my furthest, my furthest back memory of you is actually all beefed out for sure. Even bigger than what you are now. At 24 hours? Yeah. I was 230, 235. Yeah, as I say, I remember. I remember.  You were really looking, looking at me.   I can tell. Oh, that was the, that was the company uniform. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you wore that white one all the time. Yeah, yeah, medium. Yeah, it's, it's, it looks like a spray-painted. Hey, that's one thing they did well. Those, those unis were a nice snug fit. Oh yeah. They did. They were definitely, uh. How was your diet, Adam? Pretty good minus the, uh, four Wiener Schnitzel corn dogs last night. Whoa, wait, wait, wait. Wiener Schnitzel is still available. I haven't. That's like the fast food of fast food. So we were driving, we were driving home last night. That's like if you're going to McDonald's and you're like, I don't, that's too fancy. Yeah. I want to go somewhere else. Too classy.  And so it, it's like a shared like story. We've talked about it.  So Katrina and I have been together for 10 years. This was the first time we ever had Wiener Schnitzel together. I can't believe I didn't even have a moment. I know we should have made it special. So we were driving home last night. So did you drive through because they have the most unique buildings? Yeah, not the one of the big, yeah. It's like a big, uh, triangle. Looks like just a roof through it. I think you're driving through a roof. Thank you. Ask Doug. He's the, uh, fast food historian over here. What, uh, wasn't that a different, uh, a different place that used to drive through and they turned it, converted them into Wiener Schnitzels or was it originally Wiener Schnitzel? I have no idea. You don't know? No, I, why would Doug know that? He's, uh, first off, he's, he's, first off, I grew up in Seattle area and I don't think we had Wiener Schnitzel. Oh, this whole time I thought you were a Wiener connoisseur. Yeah, I'm afraid not. Sorry to disappoint. He's always, I mean, that's what it always requested. That's what it says in your searches.  It was just, okay. So last night, which I was trying to tell the story here, I was driving home last night from, uh, Truckee and we got caught in a storm. So it was like, well, we, we were on the road for a long time. Uh, the idea was that we, we had like an early dinner, hit the road. Thinking that would be the last time we ate, but we sat in the car for, you know, several hours. And when we started to come down the hill from Donner Pass, Katrina's like, oh man, I'm really hungry. I'm like, yeah, I'm really hungry too. But it's like 10 o'clock at night. There's like nothing. And she's like, well, let's find something really good.  And she's like, I'm like, you're getting all picky right now. Like, you know, you, we're not going to find something healthy at 10 o'clock.  I'm like, you know, it sounds good as a corn dog right now. And she goes, that does sound good. So that just, it never aligned. This is one of the things I love about having like a, a, you know, a health conscious partner, right? That it rarely ever aligns that both of us want the same, like bad thing. And it's always kept us pretty.  Yeah, I feel like it's like, I have to do it. I'm like, you know, never has this ever happened in 10 years that we both want a corn dog. So I felt like wiener snitchell, here we come. Yeah, it's funny. Cause I, I remember the last time I had one was at the boardwalk when I was, some people like flew in from, I think it was from Ireland, some of our relatives. And, and we had to take them down and do the whole tourist thing. And it was like, dude, I haven't had like a corn dog in forever.  What's wieners like wiener stitchels protocol? They're not like, are they frozen and then reheated? Don't know, I have no idea. I felt like it was like a, like a five star. Yeah. It felt like a five star. So you ate four, four. Yeah. Why do you say like it's a lot? It's not a lot. Oh, it's a lot. It's a lot of growing boy, dude. Come on. I'm freaking. I don't mean like a lot of food. I mean, it's a lot of wieners, wiener snitchel. Oh, really? Yeah.  Actually okay. Yeah. Now I didn't have it with fries or soda or anything else. Oh, cool. You're looking at the history on this. Is it, is it?  You looked it up. Of course I looked it up. Hold on. 250 each? Yeah. And how many grams of protein? I want to say eight to 12. I can't remember. No, it was, yeah, it was like eight. It wasn't that many. That's not bad. So you had a thousand calories, 30, almost 40 grams of protein. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I think it was eight. I think it was eight grams. Now you do the whole ketchup. Do you like, or are you just mustard? Just mustard. Wow. Yeah, I don't like ketchup. So do you like, so here, I never had wiener schnitzel for whatever reason it just seems. Really? Never. Huh. And there's one by my house. Oh, so awful about you and Doug. I thought you guys were big wiener guys. No. Well, yeah, I am a big wiener guy, but not. I almost set that up. So I know, thanks. So hold on a second. I have had hot dog on a stick. Oh, that's better. Okay. Yeah, that's like, yeah, that's like the, you know, that's the fancy corn dog. Well, they do it right in front of you. Yeah. They dip it. Yeah, it's fancy. Now here's the other question I have. Cool hats. Because I'm already, I'm already on the boat. I'm already on the train. I'm already on the big boy train. So now I'm kind of thinking this might be interesting. I wonder if their corn dogs are gluten-free because it's corn. Is it gluten-free? Because then I can then. I don't think so. I think they're mixed with sunflower. Oh, I forget it. Probably. Sorry. That's, that stops me. What do you, what is that? I only eat gluten-free garbage. Doug, what does that say? What's that say about the history of the buildings? Yeah, it was, well, I don't, doesn't really say anything about the buildings, but they were founded in 1961 and they sell 120 million hot dogs a year. Wow. Apparently this guy was an employee of Taco Bell and broke off and did his own thing. Oh, wow. So that's how that happened, huh? Brilliant. See, I thought originally. He worked for Taco Bell and then he made this. Yeah. So it wasn't a German immigrant that started this. I'm disappointed. His name is John Gallardi. Sounds more Italian maybe.  Yeah. He tricked us. Is it ever, is it ever laid off our emotions? Yeah. Welcome to Wienerschniesel. It's Wienerschniesel. I always feel like, I think you work at Taco Bell.  I always feel like anybody that makes something like that, it's because they went to another country, they said they had it and they want to bring it back here. It's rarely ever. Whatever stereotypical like, yeah, like word they can find. Wow. Hold on a second. When Gallardi came to California at the age of 19, he landed his first job from Glen Bell, who then started Taco, oh, I don't know, Taco Bell was named after the founder, Glen Bell. Wow, I get so much information already. Oh my God. Sounds authentic as well. It's real Mexican food. Yeah, I'm Glen Bell. It's like Olive Garden for Italians. Speaking of German stuff, do you guys know Adolf Hitler won an election? What? He had to decide. I read this. I know you guys like, huh? The deceased? No, no, no, no, no. So there's actually a dude named Adolf Hitler. Wow. That's unfortunate. I know. Now, here's the thing. You would think if your name was Adolf Hitler, you would never win any election ever anyway. Like, that's the worst. You'd kind of hope. I feel like his parents named him and they're like, you're never going to win. We're going to do some purpose. They gave him all the odds stacked against them. He's just like, I'm going to win. No, Namibia. Namibia, I don't know where that is. I think that's in an African country, and he won an election in that country, and his name is Adolf Hitler. That's way too much for me to process. I know, so he won. You won an African election? He must have been awesome. I mean, how good do you have to be to win an election named?  No, he actually won. Politician named after Nazi leader sweeps to victory. But promises, this was his quote. You ready for this? He's African gentleman. There he is right there. So he doesn't look very happy, does he? I know. Here's his quote after he wins. I am not striving for world domination. Wow. Wow. Contrary to what everybody may be thinking. Hey, speaking of interesting news, Justin, did you hear about the former manager of the Department of Defense Aerospace? No, I did not so. He said, quote, UFOs are real.  I mean, they're really going full court press now, I feel like. So here's a question I have for you, because I have never heard this much confirmed, like, UFO information where you have former Israeli, like. From intelligence agencies, from military, like it's all kind of never coming out now. Why has this never happened before? I'm surprised it doesn't make you guys put your tinfoil hat on and make you think. Are you kidding me? Yeah, what are they distracting us from, right? Bro, I have a tinfoil suit on right now. OK, so never has anybody out of any prominent position come out in any government agency ever said, UFOs are real, aliens are real. Nothing like that. It's always been like, no, no, no, no. All of us. I'm saying this up for Project Blue Bean. I'm telling you, what? Tell me about that. Project Blue Bean. What is that? No, that's like one of my friends that's like this crazy YouTube conspiracy guy, right? Like, he showed me a video on time and I was like, oh my god. Like, it was all this conspiracy about basically they were going to show holograms like of an alien invasion coming down. That was like this whole like his state. He was like, dude, like this could happen. I'm like, OK, all right. Well, seriously, is there something weird going on? Like all of a sudden they're like, maybe they're sprinkling it in to test us.  They're like, this is so fucked. Let's just get it out now because they've been talking about it for like two decades. The aliens are going to come and save us. We're going to have to let them know. We're going to have to let them know. Pretty soon here they're going to be here and they're like, no, it's not the right time. No, it's not the right time. And then 2020 comes around. They're like, you know what?  Just throw it on there. They'll say it and everybody will be like, no big deal. Everything else is so bad, you know?  You might as well throw it in there. Yeah, I can't get it out. I'm not making a deal anymore. That's my theory. It almost feels like they're testing to see people's reactions. But are these from legitimate sources? Because it's like I'm seeing all this news coming out from that. But then I see it from sources where I'm like, is this true or is this just like they're bringing up articles to just kind of get attention? I don't know, dude. These are real people, though. This is a real dude from the Department of Defense. And then they had the guy from, I forgot what agency in Israel who came out and said that. We're actually, that we were working with. We're a part of a galactic federation. Yeah. This is, I'm like, dude. There's more than one species of aliens? So we really are like, you know, in a sci-fi movie. I know, right? You know, that's where we're going. I feel like Justin's all excited about that. I mean, it's like low-key for sure. I've been preparing for this forever. He's been practicing his outfit, which is not really alien to me. Yeah, I've been working on my Han Solo laser shooting. How did you like the last Mandalorney? Were you happy with it? Loved it. Yeah, yeah, it was really good. It's really good, man. They're doing a good job. I love they're starting to really gel and tie it into this new universe they're creating. Oh, yeah. Wait, why did Disney stock took off again? What was that about? Yeah, well, they just announced that they had, like, some of the run-offs. Yeah. There's like 40 of them or something. They were they were they were banking. God, you gotta like it. See, I feel good now about our calls. Well, I think it's it's a really smart move because, you know, they've kind of taken a lot less attention on the main story and started work on all the back stories of all these individual characters. That way they can introduce new characters. They can bring familiar ones back in. And it's like what they did with the Marvel series that was so great. They're their stock sword also because they ended up getting more subscribers than what was projected. Oh, OK. So they already they hit all they're so cute. So look that up. It was some crazy number of how many people and then they're also going to, I believe, Q4, Q1 of next year, raise all the subscriptions up by like $1. Oh, yeah. So I want to say they they beat their projections by millions and then they're also going to raise all the subscriptions up by like $1. They also announced all what Justin's talking about right now. So yeah, yeah, big moves. Well, it says here so exciting. So one of the first one of the main investment firms raised Disney's price target to $185, which is higher than what it's at right now as of the as of the recording of this podcast. And we were talking about it at like $97.99 was when we were talking. That's when I first snagged. That's when we first started looking at it. Interesting. You guys are sponsored by Disney. You talk about it all the time. So I actually heard a crazy fact. And this was like space related, not like alien related. But you know how you've heard forever and like seen in movies all the time, how they've been talking about trying to terraform Mars? But I just heard today from an astronaut on Joe Rogan's podcast, he was talking about how that would be impossible. Because there's no like a really low magnetic field. And so the atmosphere would just. So just, yeah, it would just leave. Like if they tried to melt the ice caps or whatever, they would just like go off into space.  I know. Maybe we just make. There goes that. Yeah. We're just living domes. So it's like the driest, most desert-like planet there is. Well, what's that one theory that humans or life in our solar system started on Mars and then left Mars? Came to Earth? That's a theory? Yeah. Really? How many theories are there? There's probably a lot. There's a ton. But unless there's iron in the core, but they don't know that for sure. If there's no iron in the core that never really had any sustaining magnetic field, what does that tell us? If there's iron in the core, what does that mean? Well, it's strong magnetic. Give me up to my nerd science here. That makes no sense. Well, now we're not going to be able to explain it very well. Electromagnetic field. That's what protects us from all these harmful rays and radiation. It has to do with the atoms and the molecules. That covers it. That's OK. Makes total sense now. Totally. Speaking of iron, I learned a new form of kung fu. Not I personally, but I learned that there's an actual legit form of kung fu called iron crotch kung fu. Have you guys heard of this?  Yeah, I'm going to guess there's a lot. I've seen videos of it. Oh, so I went down to the rabbit hole. So what they do is the iron crotch kung fu is not the real name of the kung fu, but that's what people call it. But the practice is that you strike sensitive areas of the body, so like the throat or the crotch.  And then you channel your chi energy, and then you're able to withstand the punishment and not feel any pain. So some of the demonstrations these guys do are insane. There's one where they take this log on chains and they swing the log down and blast themselves.  And it's over and over again, and there's no, they feel totally fine. Oh, you gotta get here. Yeah, watch. Oh, here we go. A brick. A brick. And he's going under. I mean, he's not even pretending. He's getting tainted. No, we don't need to watch this. Come on, I get the point. We don't need to watch this. I mean, that's real. But you got to see the log.  End up with mangled meat. Look at that. It's a log.  And then tong. What? Yeah. Now I'm going to be honest with you guys. Okay. Let's be real here. Okay, you're about to get into a battle or a fight or I don't know, a war. And some guy does that to himself. Yeah. Do you imagine that?   If also you just start like pounding your nuts. Yeah. That's the ultimate flex.    You're probably going to be like, This guy means business. Hey guys, we need to have a meeting. Hey, we need to surrender. These guys are invincible. Again, I always wonder how these things end up in your feet, dude. What are you searching to get this stuff? I just go, dude. I like iron crotch. Yeah, I like learning.  No. Yeah. Stop with that. How was your weekend, Justin? Did you guys do anything this weekend? Yeah, I was busy. I've been like doing all this like fixing handy work stuff. Like I went down to a place on Palm Desert and so I drove all the way down there. I was supposed to relax and the handyman guy that we like were going to have come in and all that wasn't there. So I just ended up doing a million things, you know, to fix everything up. But I think there was a secret plan there for Courtney to just watch me work. She kind of like likes that or something. Oh, yeah. It's weird. You had a really good weekend. Now, do you do it? Yeah, do you sing? Do you wear a shirt?  Sometimes like... It's like 20 degrees. If it's hot. Just a tool belt. Just a tool belt. No tool belt either. How do you hold your hammer? Watch this. Clench it between the cheeks. Would you end up fixing? Dude, the worst was the toilet because it was like from like 1960s or something. Nobody had changed any of the stuff in there.  I had to redo the whole thing. I did a little bit of fixing too. So we have the baby, right? So a new baby and he's sleeping in the bed with us. And Jessica's like, make sure everything's 100% safe, right? Everything has to be 100% safe around us with the baby. So we have these huge... You guys, neither one of you see my bedroom, right? Yeah, I mean, one time. For good reason.  It was a trick question.  I found a hair that wasn't mine. No, so we have these huge... You know it wasn't me then, right? Like this can't be Adam. It was a huge... We have these huge mandala pieces.  So it's like a big design. I don't know, Doug can maybe type in my design. It's on the back of your... It's above your bed, right? Yes, yes. You've showed us before. Okay, so three... I heard from somebody. So three huge wooden pieces. And ever since we had the baby, Jessica's like, make sure those are secure on the wall. I'm like, they're secure. They're fine, they're not gonna come down. She's like, what if there's an earthquake, whatever, so we're in the bedroom and so it kind of looks like one of those, right? So we're in the bedroom and I don't remember what... Oh, I took the pillow top off the mattress because she's afraid the baby will suffocate in the pillow top. So while I'm doing that and I'm doing all the stuff, right? I'm like, look, they're totally secure and I reach up to grab one and I just pull it off the wall.  I was like, damn it. Oh, dude. She's like, I told you. Anchoring things on the wall is a nightmare.  So did you take it down or did you anchor it on? Took it down. So there's three big wooden pieces. We bought this a while ago. It's one of the more expensive things we have up on the wall and two of them are anchored into... Studs. Studs. I forgot the word for it. I looked at you and I remembered. Yeah. I know words. I know. Let me ask you a question. Can you ever use a stud finder without making a joke, be honest? I mean, every dad does. It's impossible. Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. Yeah, it works. So anyway, two of them were anchored in studs. One of them just had like one of those sheet rock anchors which is what came off. So I ended up getting a much better anchor. So it's all secured now. Everything's safe now. We're all good. So can you tell right now?  Are you more like that? And she's the one who's a little more... Depends. Oh, it does. So on what things are you more nervous about and then what things is she? You know, it depends on the day, I have to say. So like with COVID and that kind of stuff, sometimes I'm way more paranoid than she is. Really? With stuff around like the baby sleeping, she's a little... But that's probably cause she's the one that's kind of... She's the one who's suffering from not sleeping. So that's one thing we have it. Like Katrina blacks everything out. Like I mean, like our room, the baby's room, and I just, I've never cared that much. I mean, we keep the room dark, right? But I mean, she will go, like if we have like the alarm system that has like a little, you know, green glowing light, like she'll hang the hat over that. She puts like tape over all that.  And I'm like, oh God, does it have to be this pitch black? And so her, you know, she believes that if it wasn't for that being that dark that he wouldn't sleep. And it's like one of those things I lose every time. So it's like, okay, well you get up every night and you get them then it fits right in here. And I'm like, okay, I guess we'll just I'll just keep stubbing my toe. Well, he's starting to sleep. My son's starting to sleep better now. It's so funny too. Cause he needs to smell Jessica in order to sleep. Literally has to be next to her. Like, and so there's a little hack that we're going to test. So she had her friend over the other day, first time, right? You start wearing her clothes again? Yeah. You can start wearing clothes under your underwear. Honey, I'm wearing your underwear so the baby can smell. But she's like, you got work. No, no, her friend said this, that her baby was the same way that needed to smell her. So she would put one of her bras or something next to the baby while the baby was in their carrier or whatever and the baby slept. So we're going to test that out. We used to do that with my t-shirt. So he, we put it like the t-shirt and it's quick. When we were starting to break him off from us, putting his t-shirt, my t-shirt in the carrier. Did it work? Mm-hmm. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. That's so awesome.  I'll tell you what's great right now is just seeing my older kids bond with the baby and it's bringing the family together so well. Really? It's so awesome. Yeah, we were going on a walk and my daughter, you know, she hates it when I take them on walks. I'm trying to keep them active, right? Cause they do school at home and all that stuff. But now when the baby's coming, I want to push the stroller and she's pushing him and she wants to be ahead.   I'm watching the kids. Yeah, I'm sending a baby sitting right there. Oh yeah, dude. I'm just, it warmed my heart though to see everybody kind of come together, you know? The kids fall in love with them. Yeah, dude, the worry thing is real. Like Courtney still will wake up and have like the worst. She gets like the craziest dreams and nightmares of scenarios and situations. I'm like, I wouldn't even have thought of, you know? I'm like, dude, where are you coming up with this stuff? Like her mind just goes to crazy dark. I'm like, okay, we got to do something about this. Speaking of your guys as kids in school, what's going on right now with the schools? Are they announcing like what the rest of the year is going to look like or I mean? Public schools, not yet, but private schools, a lot of them are reopening either hybrid model where the kids will, like they'll take, instead of having all the kids at the school at the same time, they'll have some, like some of them go on like Mondays and Wednesdays, some of them go on Thursdays and Friday or whatever. Is your son doing that already? Okay, so his school opened hybrid only for a certain number of students, but they're going to probably increase the number soon. My daughter's school in January, they're all going to go back. Now here's the deal, both schools have been partially open up until now. Both schools have already had COVID cases. That's already happened. So we get a notice, you know, when that happens. So I got a notice, my daughter's school had a COVID case and my son's- Now when that happens, do they also, they pivot for the week or whatever and say, okay, no one comes in this week or what do they do? Everything's so like, they know who the kids have been around. So they'll notify the parents. First of all, they tell everybody, there's been a case at the school. Then they'll tell the kids, the parents of the kids who are next to or whatever the kid that had it.  And then the school actually shut down for, I think it was a week or two weeks.  I mean, actually they put out a lot of feelers from the parents to see who would actually be willing to bring the kids back and do like a hybrid sort of a model or like less kids physically in the class but the rest remote. So they were asking us about that. And we're probably most likely just gonna keep them at home because we're gonna be doing a bunch of stuff like not necessarily in the area. So it actually works out for us into next year but I don't really see it opening like fully until probably next fall. So you're gonna have an option to do like basically homeschooling and is that what you're doing? Yeah. And have you guys decided no matter what the school does this is what we're going to do? Yeah, we've just decided that to relieve the pressure of it. I know the kids really want the interaction and they wanna be there physically. It's just so like back and forth. Like you mentioned the case here or whatever and then it's just, there's this way too much fear residing over all that stuff still which I think is more toxic than anything. Yeah, I go back and forth, right? Because I tell you I see my kids and I see how much they're suffering right now and here's the thing with kids they don't know that they're suffering. You just see it in their behaviors and you see that kind of stuff. But I mean, and then here's the other reality. And again, I'm not an expert. Okay, so before anybody freaks out but according to what I've read the risk for children with COVID is very low. Now of course they can spread it to other people. So when my kids go back they're not gonna be around people who are in the risk category. Teachers are the most afraid of getting. Yeah, I've heard there's some schools where the schools back in and the kids are like kind of back to normal but then all the teachers are all wearing masks. Well, actually I think they'll make the kids wear masks too. But the public schools, the teachers unions are saying we don't wanna be open in the public schools. Now private schools are fighting, a lot of them are fighting to have them be open again. But that's also because they don't make money. Yeah, one gets money no matter what whether they're open or not the other one has to be open in order to get paid, right? Well, because a lot of private schools are losing kids because if you're paying a premium to send your kid to private school and they're distance learning now you're gonna be like, I might as well just do this in a cheaper way or whatever. So a lot of them are trying to get like, so I know the Catholic schools and stuff around here are getting exceptions to be able to remain or to open up. But we'll see what ends up happening with all that. So I don't know. At some point, here's a deal. At some point, I don't know what this vaccine's gonna look like, but at some point, I think it's out there. We're all gonna get it. I saw you fell for that vaccine post trap right there. Right in the forum? Yeah, our forum did it. And I saw that. It got me too for a minute. I was just like, huh? It said I support mandatory vacations. They had a picture of a syringe. Yeah. And I was like, excuse me. Right, vacations. Yeah, and the vacations was like right where the needle and syringe was at. And so unless like you really looked at the post you just assume. Oh, that's funny. I saw that. I didn't get that. Yeah, right. But it's clever though, right? I think it's kind of smart. Isn't that interesting how like right away when it's something like the such a contest? Yeah, it's a contested topic right away. And right you have this right away you assume that it's vaccines and you want to jump right at it. It just shows you about yourself, right? Totally. Hey, I want to ask you, Adam, about the SUV. I'm thinking about getting one. So sell me on it. So tell me the whole process you put.  Yeah, and you can get ones that are like the one they come with or like kind of the generic ones that would. I think the silicone one, isn't that the better one to use? Yes, that's the better one to use so you don't get the what is it BPA or whatever like that that's in it. So what I like about it, it's similar to like Crockpots or whatever you can just like set a temperature or the Instapot and just walk away from it. So we can set it all up in the pot and have it set to go off. Where I really like it is with grass-fed meat. And the reason why I like it with grass-fed meat is first of all, grass-fed is always gonna have kind of this gamey feel and taste to it and the texture. And it's just not as fatty, that's why. Yeah, exactly. It's not as fatty, so it's not, it seems to be a little bit tougher. It doesn't have quite as much flavor.  So what I'll do is I'll put it on the, I'll put the SUV or Instapot, I do use them both this very similar where I'll cook the grass-fed meat in it and then afterwards I'll sear it in butter. And then it makes it just amazing. And what I like it is you can't mess it up. So it turns itself off when it's done?  It will cook the steak perfect to that every time. And then all you're doing is searing it. And so for somebody who's not like maybe the greatest chef ever, I think it's a great, and I've heard, Doug, correct me if I'm wrong, that a lot of some of your really, really fancy high-end restaurants use this technique to make sure they have a perfect steak every time. I'm pretty sure they do, yeah. Yeah, so that's- Now there's also this argument that cooking meat under over a flame or with heat or whatever produces more carcinogens. And so now there's argument. I'll argue that back and forth or whatever, but I know boiling food apparently doesn't produce that. Right, I mean, that's not the reason why I'm using it. The char tastes so much better. I'm using it because it cooks a perfect steak. Now, what have you cooked in there? Have you tried a tri-tip? Oh, I've done everything that we get it, everything I get in my butcher box, I've cooked that way. Pork? Yeah, oh no, I haven't done pork. I don't get pork though from them that often. Oh, they have great pork. I know you guys both talk about it. I'm just not a big pork person in general. Me neither. I'm not either. I never like pork chops. So I never like pork chops. Their pork is amazing. I don't like pork otherwise. No, you've talked about them before, and I think it's you who does it, right?  Yeah, I like to do that. I've figured out what groceries we eat the most consistently, and since it's being delivered to me, I get it set up to where it's the same thing. So chicken thighs, we normally get the, what do they call them? Their tri-tip? They call it a... No, no, it's just called tri-tip. Yeah, they have a tri-tip. They have a tri-tip. A sirloin cap is what you're talking about, but that's different. They also have a tri-tip. Oh, so I get the sirloin cap all the time. I get the chicken thighs in there all the time. And you've done all that in the sous vide? Yeah, yeah. Wow. All right, so I'm thinking about doing it. Now, would it be enough? I'm sure they have different sizes, right? Is it enough to serve? Because I have my kids, or are they small? Like, how does it work? Is it any pot? How does it work? Yeah, it's in any pot. Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't know what the max though. I haven't... I don't think there is a max. So if you have a very large pot, you can put your sous vide in there, and what happens is the water cycles through the sous vide device, and it heats the water to a perfect temperature. Say it's 135 degrees, which I think is medium rare. Yeah. Then it just keeps the meat at that temperature. It releases it there and keeps it there. So it really depends on the size of your pot. As long as you have a pot that will fit that much meat in it, you'll be fine. Oh, you guys sold me.  So our first caller is Spencer from Vancouver Island. Full name and where are you from? Full name, Spencer, Antifave, and I actually live on Vancouver Island in up in Canada, in BC. So right along the coast, just like you guys, but... But colder. A little higher up, I guess. Oh, awesome. So how long have you been listening to the show? So I started listening about, I'd say a year and a half ago or so. And then so I don't know exactly where you guys were at that point, but then like about a few months ago, I went back and started listening from the beginning again, because I listened to all the recent ones and it's actually so funny listening to like all your first episodes. Oh, God. Like the first few hundred that you guys made are like definitely hilarious. Yeah, that was a drunken blur. None of that was sober. Spencer, you look very young. How old are you? I'm actually 19. All right. A lot of people think I'm like a bit younger. I guess I'm just a little delayed, but I am actually 19. Well, you'd be careful because Doug's a vampire.  That's how he stays young. From a 55 year old guy's perspective, everybody looks young at that age, right? Hey, so what's your question, Spencer? How can we help you? I guess the one that I was gonna ask is about creatine. So I've been taking monohydrate for about a year. I didn't really notice a lot of difference or really anything at all from taking it. I don't know if it's just because I already have like meat in my diet, which is something that I've heard on a podcast before, or if it's just that I'm not really a responder or anything or if it's just like the, and also the other part of the question is if someone is not a responder to creatine, if it's still worth it to take creatine? Those are actually great questions. How do you take the creatine? Is it pure powder and then how much do you take on a daily basis? How, like rectally? Are you asking me what are you talking about? Yeah, it's just pre, it's just micronized monohydrate and I usually take about like three to five grams a day. Okay, so there is a very small percentage of people that would be called non-responders that don't notice much from creatine, but it's a very small percentage. I've worked with clients who thought they were non-responders, then they went off creatine and they noticed a difference after about a month. So you might wanna test that out going off for about a month to see if you notice any changes in strength or energy or if you drop a pound or two of water on the scale, because creatine will make people gain a little bit of water weight in the muscles. And the other question is how's your workout? Because creatine is not a miracle drug. If your workout's not great and your diet's not great, it's not gonna, you know, it's not gonna fix that. Yeah, I definitely periodized my workouts. Right now, I'm following like, I used to do like full body three days a week, and then I switched to like a bit of a, like four-day week full body, but I split it up so I do like squats twice a week, and then deadlifts one day and then good mornings another day. And then I've been doing that cycle for almost eight weeks, but during the eight weeks, like I've messed around like with changing intensity as well and tempo as well as volume. So like, I guess from listening to a lot of your guys' episodes, I like I've learned quite a bit for varying the like workload and all the different variables. So I think the programming is not too bad. And I'm still like getting stronger and stuff. So it sounds like he's doing a good job as far as that. You know, sometimes, so this is the, how long have you been using creatine for now? And then was this the first introduction to creatine for you? I started like a year ago and that was the first time I'd ever taken it. So I mean, this is welcome to supplements, right? I think a lot of times because of all the marketing and how much we hear hype around a supplement, people expect it to be like this. I feel it right away or I see this huge difference. I mean, even though creatine is one of the best supplements that's out there, it just highlights how little supplements play in the role of building muscle and burning body fat.  You know, it's probably doing its job. You just don't even really realize it that much. The only way to know would be to stop for about a month and see if you notice a difference. But I would bet that you're probably gonna notice a little bit of a difference as long as it's not bothering your gut and you feel okay. After about a month, if you notice a difference, I would go right back on because there's still health benefits. You know, they're showing now, creatine has heart health benefits and it's got benefits for the brain, for cognition, so testosterone benefits. So I think most people probably would be okay or actually get some benefit from taking creatine. Have you followed any maps, workouts, programs? Cause I'd like to hook you up with some to see if changing a program will make a big difference. Well, I've done all the webinars that you guys have gone through and when I haven't done any of the actual maps programs, I've been really wanting to do one, but I can't really decide if I wanna do like anabolic or performance because I actually do, on the side, I do break dancing. I'm not sure if you guys are too familiar with seeing. Oh yeah, Justin was a B-boy back in the day. Totally. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's just most people don't know what it is if you tell them that you do B-boy. But yeah, so that's like my main sport and then I do like lifting to compliment that. Oh, excellent. All right, so we're gonna hook you up then with both. We'll give you maps, anabolic and maps performance. Start with maps and anabolic. When you're done with that, then go to maps performance. And then I would love for you to give me some, just to follow up a month from now, if you go off creating, let me know if you noticed anything. Yeah, I'll definitely follow up with that stuff. And then I guess the only other thing is there's probably, like, it's probably minuscule the differences that you get from taking hydrochloride, I'm guessing. No. It's probably negligible. No, stick with monohydrate. 99% of the studies have been done on monohydrate and all the other forms of creatine don't have tons of literature supporting them. So I would stick with monohydrate. All right, yeah, cheaper too. Exactly. All right, man, hey, thanks for calling in, bro. Yeah, thanks so much. I love you guys' show. They listen to it every day, like. Awesome. Whenever I have any free time. Awesome, and if Doug knocks on your door, do not invite him in. Yeah. Stay clear. All right, sounds good. All right, Spencer, you have a good one, brother. Yeah, you too. Thanks, guys. Stay warm. Spencer sounds like he knows his workout stuff. Yeah, I think he's doing good. You know what, I think it's more, it just highlights how weak supplements are when you're a kid and you take supplements the first time and you think like it's going to be amazing. Our next caller is Sadie from Nevada. What's up, Sadie? What's your question? Hey, good morning, guys. I was wondering how I could better my holups as a female. So with work, we have a PT test and part of it is doing pull-ups and I've been able to max out at like 12. And so I'm kind of hoping to bump those numbers up. That's good. Yeah, that's incredible. That's phenomenal. You know, pull-ups is one of those things that took me a long time before I started doing like singles, doubles and triples of like pull-ups. You just don't, you don't feel like you're getting as good of a workout, but if you want to build strength in pull-ups, one of the best things to do is to start doing them weighted and be okay with doing sets of one to three reps with, you know, a, you know, a dumbbell or something that's, that's either strapped to you or you're holding on to that built pull-up strength more than anything else that I ever did. Oh yeah, that's great. Now, Sadie, is this for a test that you need to pass or is this just because you said it? You just want to be a badass. Yeah, so what's the deal? No guys, actually. So I, I fight wildland fire on the helicopter crew here in Vegas. And so the beginning of summer, we have a PT test. So we have to run a mile and a half.  And then we submit those scores to compete against other helicopter crews. Oh, so you're, you're basically a badass. Okay, so here's the deal. How bad do you want to win this competition? Yeah.  Like Nancy Kerrigan bad, like breaking ankle type of deal. What are you asking? No, like how, like how bad do you want to win this?  I'm going to give you some advice that I wouldn't necessarily give to somebody who's just looking to get strong or improve their fitness. Adam is 100% right. Start training for strength. So add weighted pull-ups. But here's the second piece. The lighter you are, the more pull-ups you're going to be able to do. So I would avoid heavy lower body exercises and do some more endurance stuff for the lower body. Get lighter in the legs and that should add a few reps to your pull-ups at least. That sounds awesome. Okay. Cause I said about like 175, 180, so. Yeah. Leaning out, getting ready for it, right? To lean out a little bit while also starting to load the pull-ups and watch what happens when you get into competition. Wait, hold on. Let me get this straight. So you, wait, you said at 175 and you do 12 pull-ups? Yeah. That's what she did. Yes, sir. Yep.  You are strong. That is awesome. And these are all strict pull-ups, right?  Oh, good. You have to do a dead hang and then to the top. Wow, that's impressive. That is impressive. Oh yeah. That's eight more than Justin can do. It is. At least. At least. Yeah, I'm in for it. If you lost some mass in your lower body and then did the weighted stuff, I could see you hitting 20 pull-ups for sure, especially as strong as you already are, which is excellent. Have you ever trained singles, doubles, or triples for pull-ups that's weighted? So I've tried, so I've done pyramids with a weight vest and that helps a lot. And I can probably get about three or four with the weight vest being fully loaded. And then I'll do that and then I'll take the weight vest off and then do a pyramid just body weight. Oh, that's, that's, that's awesome. Okay, so when you're doing heavy sets with pull-ups, you want to, you don't want to train to failure, right? So pick a weight that you could do like four or five reps to failure. And then do three. And then do two or three and then rest and then do it again and do like six or seven sets. Here's another strategy.  And then I don't know, 10 times a day when you walk by it, just do one pull-up, body weight. Yeah, just body weight, one pull-up. And you'll get so good at doing them that you'll just- That's the general advice I give for the most people, but you're already being able to do 12 is already a leg up on most people I talk to about that. So to do that and then add the strength training on top of it, I guarantee you're gonna see more. So I have a question for you. What makes you want to fight fires? Cause that is a risky job. So it's kind of funny when I got out of the baby just happened to stumble upon the job here, I guess. And I just love it. It's such a great community and an amazing people.  We work 21 days and we get two days off, but it's so worth it. It's so awesome. Now, are you the only one in your crew that's listening to the show or do you have friends that other co-workers that listen to the Mind Pump with you? We actually, when we're not busy, I introduced you guys with my favorite show and you guys talked about the Commandments of the gym. And so listen, you know, when we're hanging out and nothing's really going on, we listen to a lot of hadcast podcasts and then especially like on our long drives and things like that. Awesome. Well, I do want to say thank you so much for the work you do keeping all of us safe from the fires. And I would love to hear how you did with the test. So shoot one of us a DM after it happens. Let us know what happened. Awesome. Yeah. That'll be in May. So I really appreciate it guys. Like you guys have amazing information. So thank you. Awesome. Appreciate the support. Thank you. Wow. 12 pull ups. 12 pull ups at 175 and six foot. So she's longer limbed. Right. And that weight. Yeah, length of cover. That is legit. She is legit stronger than Justin. She's for sure. I'm glad that you're not throwing yourself in that, too. That's good. That's why you guys are not fighting the fires out there. Come on, Ian. I didn't imagine. Yeah, I want to see you do that. She's definitely carrying me, dude, for sure. Yeah. No, that's exceptional. But, you know, when you, like I said, the advice I gave her, I wouldn't give that to the average person and say, hey, lose lower body mass. But when you're trying to win a competition, I mean, five pounds of leg mass would you do more? Especially if she's doing it while she's increasing the weight. So if she's leaning out and getting lighter on her lower half, like you're saying, while also but adding weight to like her lower half when she's doing the actual training. She's so fresh. I think, too, if she's not, if she's trying to eliminate swing and all that doing like hollow body and like really like, you know, making sure her body stays nice and rigid would be the only other thing I would add. Totally. All right. Our next caller is Jason from Florida. Hey, what's up, Jason? What's your question? Hey guys, Jason down at Jacksonville Beach. Just wrote in to ask a question about how I should train in my home gym to get kind of my swing back. I've been playing some softball with some guys my age lately and I'm not hitting the ball as hard as I used to and would like to, you know, improve my game a little bit and then also been taking up standup paddle boarding and I'm interested in how I can train at home to, you know, kind of work on my balance while still being able to, you know, paddle powerfully while maintaining my balance on the board. Let me explain what that is for Sal. Sal, that's the stick. And it's a bigger ball that they use. Oh, okay.  All right, thank you. I appreciate that. Where do you notice the breakdown in those things? Like, have you done them before? Are you new to them or is this something you did before? I played baseball and then as a kid and softball as an adult that took a long break when I started having kids. So I used to play softball and I just used to be able to hit a lot better than I am. I don't know if my swings off or I'm just not as strong as I used to be. So your paddle boarding is a whole new thing. I've learned.   Yeah, well, that's about all I am anymore is just dad out there on the field. Awesome. Okay, so a couple of things, Jason. Number one, and I'm sure Justin will get into this because he's the biggest athlete of the group. But I would say nothing is gonna get you better at a skill than practicing that skill. So what you do in the gym, and we'll get into that, in terms of what exercises can complement what you're trying to do, but nothing is gonna be in the gym that you do is gonna be as effective as just practicing the skill of swinging and doing the paddle board. Yeah, definitely go through in terms of the skill of swing. Do you notice anything like a loss of power? Do you notice like any kind of hitch in your swing now? Is there anything different that you can pinpoint, basically? Well, it may just be my swing motion. I think I'm hitting it fairly hard, but I'm not getting any lift on the ball anymore. Everything's on the ground. So I'm hitting hard grounders, but I can't seem to hit those line drives like I do. Okay, and in terms of like mobility, and I know over time, we sort of form into these certain positions throughout the day, which changes our mechanics with everything. And so that may be something to address in terms of pulling everything back into optimal posture. And then seeing if we can then really drive that leg drive and get that power back to really promote more of that power into the ball.  Yeah, so a couple things. So for rotation and anti-rotation as well, being able to really anchor your body down into that position, something I've worked with, even getting back into baseball with my son, noticing just how much kids really needed to learn how to anchor their body down and really be able to get that power through their feet and through their legs and getting those hips to really respond. So being able to really secure and get that core strength and everything to brace properly and then release with speed is everything. So once you just kind of go back and, I don't know, do you do much rotational work or much rotational strength in the exercises? No, I really haven't been. I've just been doing basic lifting here in my home gym with squat rack and barbell and some dumbbells. Jason, would you consider yourself tight would you say that you're a bit tight if you were to twist really hard or maybe tightness in your hips or the back of your legs? Yeah, everything's pretty tight. I listened to your advice about stretching and maps prime. I can't say I've adhered to it too well. So yeah, I'm definitely kind of a bigger guy and definitely tight these days. I feel like performance, man. Yeah, performance would be huge. I've worked with, so I never played a lot of baseball but I did do a lot of boxing and there's a lot of rotation involved in the power. Oftentimes people lack power not because they're not strong but rather because their tightness is preventing them from really generating that twisting, rotating power. I would work a lot on ankle, foot and hip and then back mobility. That will make the biggest difference. As far as strength is concerned, first I would focus on mobility because getting stronger without mobility isn't gonna make a big difference but work on mobility and then I would do rotational exercises. Maps performance has quite a few of those especially in the second, I believe the second and third phase of the program. You combine mobility with rotational strength and then of course the technique and you should see a huge difference. Yeah, you really wanna just iron out like anything getting in the way of natural fluid movement and so to be able to kind of bring it back and do checks on all your joints to make sure they have nice fluid rotation and they respond appropriately and you also have access to them and can brace and strengthen to support your joints. It may seem like you're regressing but honestly that's gonna give you the most performance and bang for your buck out there in the field. This is why we're gonna hook you up for free with Maps performance because I think it being scheduled into your, it sounds like you know that you've heard it from us but then you haven't implemented into your routine. It's built into Maps performance. You have every other day is a mobility day so you're doing the mobility stuff with all the unilateral and rotational stuff that we have in performance I think you would benefit a ton. One last thing Jason, the way you train mobility is different than the way you train strength. So with strength you go into the gym, you lift heavy hard for an hour, you do that a few days a week. With mobility you're better off doing 10 to 15 minute sessions twice a day. So frequency is very important with mobility and I would suggest attaching it to something that you already do. So maybe like 15 minutes before breakfast and 10 minutes before bed, do that every single day. Within a week you should notice a difference. Okay, great. Excellent man, thanks for the support brother. Thanks a lot. Yeah, I think you know, one thing that I learned in Jiu Jitsu and the very little boxing that I did was I would train for strength and performance in the gym and I would forget that 90% of it came from the technique and skill. So it's like I wanted to get better at a throw and Judo practicing the throw would be anything I could do in the gym. That's why it's so complex because every sport has all kinds of nuanced movements that really is very specific to that sport and so to be able to unlock the movements is everything and the only way to do that really is to make sure you have good mobility and stability. Next caller is Grant from Arizona. What's up Grant, how you doing? What's your question? Hey guys, thanks for having me on. My question is, how have you guys helped male athletes who struggle with orthorexia? Remember we talked about this with Jason on the show, right? Yeah. Can we get into that when he was here the first time? Yes, that's a really good question. So orthorexia for the listeners is a eating disorder or a bad relationship with food where everything has to be perfect or healthy. So everything you eat, it has to be healthy, it has to be perfect. And if it goes outside of that it causes you a lot of stress and issues. And I would say this is probably most common in the bodybuilding world. Very common. I was gonna say, yeah, in terms of which sport I would think that was probably the highest. I saw this like when we, this was really surprising to me. I didn't expect this. I expected when getting into competing I was going to meet all these people that were the smartest, the most dialed, have the best relationships with exercise and diet. And it was actually the opposite. I mean, a lot of them they were, what they were really good at was being consistent. But part of it was because it was like an issue. They were obsessed with measuring weighing and tracking. And if they didn't, they would go like off the rails. And so what I would do when coaching an athlete when I'd see this, I've talked to you guys about this off air. I would do intermittent fasting for this reason to help break that, right? So if it's somebody who has an issue with eating outside of like weighing and everything perfect, challenging them to be like, hey listen, we're not gonna eat for 24 hours. It would be really difficult for them to do it. Cause a lot of times it's tied to very similar stuff that Sal, you and I have talked about where I'm afraid if I don't eat these foods or I don't exercise today, like the muscle is gonna fall off. And therefore I have to eat in these parameters all the time. Now, Grant, is this you or is this somebody you're working with? You mind if I ask? Oh, it's 100% me. Like for the last, I don't know, seven or eight years. Okay. Now, have you ever dealt with anorexia or bulimia or is it just, did you go just from regular to orthorexia or feelings like that? No, definitely struggled with anorexia. I didn't never got into bulimia cause I hate throwing up, but I think I would go off the rails and then I would purge like with exercise or doing like the intermittent fasting approach. Got it. I'm definitely not telling you to intermittent fasting. Yeah, no. Good question. No, that's why I asked you. Yeah, so, and that's why I asked you that. So now of course we're not experts in eating disorders. We've just worked with people with nutrition. Now I would recommend that you work with a professional in this field. So I'm gonna speak from a trainer perspective. Okay, Grant, in my experience, when I've worked with people who have issues with food, like you're saying, orthorexics, I would, and this is not the place you're gonna stay, but this is a great place to transition. I would take your focus off of food and put it on performance, okay? So rather than looking at all your food and I need to eat the right macros, don't worry about that. I want you to look at your performance. How strong am I? How fast am I? What's my stamina? And then if you need more energy, you eat more.  And in my experience, this is what ends up happening. Your obsession moves from food to performance and being obsessed with performance isn't where you wanna end up. It's just a better place to be or to transition from. Once you move to performance as your sole focus, then you can start to move more towards an intuitive eating point. But in my experience, I have to take that person's obsession away from food and I can't do that by keeping them focused on food in any way, shape, or form. It has to be focused on something different and performance in my experience seems to be a good place to go, does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, definitely. Okay, now are you, what kind of workout are you following? Right now, I am doing like, well, I just, I've been doing kind of like a MAPS anabolic type of training style where like for a few weeks I'm going heavy with lower reps and then moderate. Right now I just started doing like the 12 to 15 rep range. It's more, obviously you guys know like, I'm focusing on getting a pump and getting, probably within the next couple of weeks, I'll go back to heavier lifting and lower rep ranges. You know, I would love to see him run something like MAPS Powerlift. I was just going to say that. Powerlift would be such a great focus right now, just because it will take your mind off of it. Very focused on the metrics. Oh, completely. So you'd be focused completely on strength and I like that.   You might be a little looser with your diet than you would be if you were focused on aesthetics. Does that make sense? Now are you sure? Yeah, now is that? Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, I was just going to ask if you're regimented every single day, weighing, tracking, measuring, or do you allow yourself like weekends or anything to kind of relax? Yeah, so weekends, when I go and visit my parents they're pretty, it's relaxed. But then during the work week, I'll do meal prep because I'm lazy as hell and I don't really want to cook when I get home from work. But yeah, on the weekends, it's always just kind of freebies. I don't ever feel like I'm going off the rails and like dinging on stuff. It's just, I'm not really tracking how many calories are in this dinner. Does that cause you?  Does that cause you anxiety because you said that you don't feel like you're going off the rails. Have you tried also doing a day here and there during the week? No, I haven't tried doing a day during the week. But it causes me some anxiety. But then usually because I'm with my family, I'm like, whatever, it's not that big of a deal. And plus because I'm so consistent with my training, I'm like, I think you guys could relate. Like you have that constant kind of reminder where it's like, well, it's not really going to matter because I know tomorrow I'm going to go and lift anyway. So if I have a little extra, it probably will make things go smoother in the gym or in my home gym. The truth is that's the right attitude right there to have that during the week. Totally, totally. That same idea like, ah, it's not a big deal. I ate a little more. So I'm going to get after the gym tomorrow just learning to transition that to the week. Yeah, I think the focus on performance, focus on strength and performance is a great transition. Don't end up there because being obsessed with performance can also run its own risks. But I do want to add this. There's a lot of light at the end of the tunnel and the fact that you're calling and talking to us about it means that you're aware. And that is the hardest first step. To get somebody who has issues with food to just admit is so challenging. So congratulations on that. Thanks. I did have a quick question. Map's power lift, is that something that can be done at home? Yeah, oh yeah. As long as you got a bar, you got a barbell? If we got a barbell, you're good. Yeah, do you have a barbell, dumbbells and a squat rack? I have three barbells, a trap bar, yes. I've got a lot of stuff, a lot of gear. Yeah, you're good. You're good, man. So we're going to send that to you. Unless you got it already, we'll send that over to you. Oh, get you going, man. Oh, wow, no. Yeah, thank you. No, I don't have that yet. Wow, that's awesome. Thank you, guys. Excellent, we appreciate you supporting Mind Plump. I recognize your name. I know you asked me questions before, so thanks for that and stay in touch with us. Yeah, let us know. Of course, thanks, guys. I appreciate it. All right, brother. I'm so glad that you asked the question, because how funny is that? My first initial, I'm thinking like competitor, and I used to interrupt the intermittent. And really it was to make them aware if they even have a problem, right? The fact that he is aware of it, and then he's also leaned on the side of anorexia, that would be awful advice to give him, would be to be intermittent fasting. Oh, that would be anorexia, that would be anorexia, but you know what? Such a great, great question.  Nine out of 10 times, they didn't have issues with anorexia. And nine out of 10 times, it was what they would call bigorexia. Right, so that's, I'm so glad you have, but highlights, this is where, when we always answer questions, when we don't have the actual person, we have to say depends. Insight helps. Because it's, that's a total different answer if it's somebody who is like a competitor, who has the bigorexia or whatever, versus somebody who's actually had anorexia, a completely different strategy on how you go about it. Exactly. Look, you can listen to Mind Pump through audio, but also watch us on video. We're on YouTube, Mind Pump Podcast. You can also find all of us on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump, Justin, me at Mind Pump Sal, Adam at Mind Pump, Adam, and Doug at Mind Pump, Doug. From a physiological standpoint, okay, when you have people that intermittent fast versus people that don't intermittent fast, all other factors being equal, calories, macros, same types of food, similar lifestyles, doesn't make a difference at all, okay? But that doesn't mean,