With that being said, obviously, plays here and there with the deciding factor in the game. We would love to be on the other side of it, but overall, I'm happy for our guys. I think we got some of the build off. Yeah, you know what, it's finding a happy medium, being really understanding situations. But I'm a competitor and I'm going to continue to kind of play the way I've always played since I was a kid. But yes, I think there are certain situations looking back on it in the game where I would love to have sled, especially on the turnover. But at the end of the day, it's this kind of nature of the beast. You learn, you live and you grow and that's what I'm trying to do. Is it hard for you to slide? Is there a mental thing where you're like... No, not really. I think over the course of my career I've been tentative in sliding and I think, for me, I don't want to play that way. I don't want to play tentative. I want to play fast and I want to be really just going out there and not worrying about anything. So if it comes naturally to slide, I will, but I'm not going to take away the competitiveness. You were intended to slide. What do you mean? Well, I think it's hard. I think as a quarterback, you get in positions where it's like, okay, do I slide to try to avoid a hit, but then you're kind of in between a couple guys and you end up taking a worse hit than maybe if you would have just played the play. So being understanding of those types of situations, I think sometimes you expose yourself sliding, especially in a crowded kind of area. So I don't know. I wouldn't say it's necessarily something that I think about on the field. It's just something that happens naturally. I don't know. I really don't even think about and pay attention to stats like that. I'm really more focused on winning the game. If that's what it calls that type of game for me to rush for that many yards to allow us to win, then yes, I'm all about it. But I really could care less about this type of thing. One of the things that you had talked about a lot in training camp, kept saying play free and that was kind of the goal that you wanted to get to. Do you feel like you're at least close to that or do you feel like you're playing friends? Yeah, I would say playing that way and it feels good really to be honest with you. I think for me, I've always been kind of a field and instinct player. When I'm able to not think about certain things out on the field, I play better. I appreciate the staff. I appreciate these guys for allowing me to get to that point. I think that's what's going to allow me to play my best football. I think there's a lot of things. I think it's changing up maybe a little bit of my preparation. Maybe it's also going through things mentally over and over again.  They're great. They're great. I'm happy for these guys. We've got a great group of guys. That's the expectation, that's the standard we're going to hold these guys to. But it's also on me. If I'm not holding the ball, if I'm getting the ball out quick, if I'm avoiding sacks, I'm helping those guys out front too. You look at their defense, right? They've got three levels of all pro players, right? You've got a guy in the front seven, you've got another guy in the intermediate, and you've got a guy in the back end. So I think that's a great challenge, especially for this team who is young and who's kind of still learning the ropes of this league. Because that's what it is. Week in and week out, you're going to play some of the best players in the world. And you just got to look at it as a great opportunity. And I'm excited for our guys. We're going to compete. We'll see where that takes us. Compared to other locker rooms, I don't remember there ever being a ping-pong table or basketball net in this locker room. I mean, do you feel like there's more fun? I don't know, more fun? Young energy in it? I don't know. I think guys are close, and that's what has been fun for me. When you've been playing this league for a long time, sometimes some of these locker rooms aren't that way, and it's not very fun to come to work. We've got a great group of guys, like I said. When you're able to hang out, you know, when you're finished with meetings, and the guys are still out here playing basketball or doing ping-pong, that says a lot about the character of this group. And I'm excited to play with these guys. I'll fight for them. I'll do whatever I can to help these guys win. And, you know, I think that's kind of the same token all the way across the room. What's been the biggest point of emphasis in trying to get better offensively? Is it the red zone, or is it the third down? What's been the thing that the president talked about the most? Definitely being more efficient on third down than the red zone. In this league, you go 50% in the red zone, and that's not going to win games. And if you're under 40% on third down, that's not going to do very well either. If we can find ways to get in a rhythm, get some third downs going, convert, score some touchdowns, I think we can be even more opponent. For me, he's just got such a great feel for a receiver. You know, football is an imperfect game, and I think when you are out there, sometimes you've got to change kind of a route stamp. You have to be able to kind of feel space, and he's gotten such a natural feel for that, which I think allowed him to get open in some of his routes and create some yak. And, you know, with that being said, we got to continue to find ways to get in the ball, so he continues to feel that, because I think he's so young, he's still kind of learning how to use those types of traits. But again, when you have a guy with that physical gifts, and he can kind of have some of those natural abilities to get open, he's going to do a lot of good things for us. I think for us, looking back on it through camp and OTAs, you always think people have certain traits. It's always different once you get into a game, and to see him do that in a live setting I think is very exciting for him. Marcus, I know that Arthur talks a lot to y'all globally, not in context of this week, but overall about dealing with failure. How important is that message being to you in terms of the proper way to deal with failure? Very important. In my career, I've always dealt with maybe a fear of failure. Where I come from, you know, I always try to hold myself to a higher standard, and sometimes that creates some of this perfectionist in you. And I've always found that that's when I start to think out on the football field, and I don't play naturally. I don't allow my instincts to take over. So with that being said, I think art does a great job of portraying those messages to us, and it's something that for me really hits home. Is that something he's always talked about, or is that you notice it more now in this role as a head coach than maybe when he was the OC? I would say I notice it more now, I think because he has commanded the entire room. He's in front of the room. Exactly. So it's pretty cool to hear some of his messages, but I definitely relate with a lot of... With high achievers and a high profile sport, it seems like talking about failure a lot might be a message that falls on deaf ears. Do you think that that's the case, or do you think that you guys understand it maybe better than other people? Like you said, I think guys understand it a little bit better than maybe other people do because I think in this profession you're all going to experience some sort of failure. It might not be to the extent of some other guys getting benched or getting hurt or getting out of the league, but at some point in time any one of us is going to deal with that and with that being said, to be able to know that you have other guys that are going through that and that you can communicate with and ask for advice I think is important and art does a great job of being able to bring those messages into the team room. So guys feel comfortable when they come in here and they can talk about those types of things. And does it help coming off losses when you understand it? Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. And I think when it comes to the league, right, it's the nature of the beast. Week in and week out, it's such a roller coaster of emotions and I think some of these young guys are starting to understand that you can't get too high when you win and you can't get too low when you lose and it's just got to be kind of an even consistent state of emotions throughout the season. So I think guys understand it and I think art has done a great job of bringing those types of conversations to the team room. Would these next two games all of them have to do these games and making a trip to Atlanta? Yes, and I'm looking forward to it. It's going to be fun to play on the West Coast, see a lot of friends and families. It'll be fun to play in the Northwest. I haven't played up there since I left college and I'm looking forward to seeing some family friends. What kinds of things can you guys do depending on the red zone to be more effective? It starts first and second down, really. You know, if you get behind the A-ball and you're getting third downs from longer distances, especially in the red zone, it's tough because the defense doesn't really have a vertical threat. And at the same time, I think penalties kind of hurt us in turnovers. So those are all things that are very controllable for us and I think we can correct those things over the course of this week. I'm going to have to talk to a couple of guys. It'll be a fun game. I'm looking forward to it.


All right, Bolo Buddies, tonight on What Not, I am bringing jewelry, but I'm mixing in a little something. So let me show you that. I'm gonna be bringing mystery figurines tonight mixed in with my jewelry. So every, you know, seven to 10 pieces, I'm gonna bring something different just to spice up the show. So I'll see you tonight at 10, 15 PM Eastern Standard Time on What Not. Be sure to bookmark it and bookmark my other shows. You can check out the replay of my last show to see how this is gonna work over on my Bolo Buddies YouTube channel. Thanks for watching.


I know most of you have heard about Cocoa Gove. Cocoa Gove is of course, as you know, an American tennis player. Just around September 9, she won the 2023 US Open, her first major single title, beating another very major player, Arena Sablenka in three sets and becoming the first American teenager to win the US Open since Serena Williams in 1999. What sets this victory apart is the fact that Cocoa Gove, unlike other celebrities of her stature, who do not acknowledge a role of God in their life or in their careers, seem to have made God a central part of her successes as she demonstrated these when she was announced as the winner of the US Open. During the announcement, she took the opportunity to explain what she did during playtime. Recall that when she was at the pitch, she knelt down at some point and prayed to God. This single gesture was checked by everybody present. Those who are religious among the crowd acknowledged and shared her for praying and handing over her success or her struggles to Allah Almighty. To win your first Grand Slam title on home soil. Oh my goodness. I'm a little bit in shock in this moment. That French Open loss was a heartbreak for me, but I realized God puts you through tribulations and trials and this makes this moment even more sweeter than I can imagine. We saw you say a prayer, get on your knees, you have a lot of faith. How important has that been through this journey for you? Oh, it's been so important. You know, I don't pray for results. I just ask that, you know, I get the strength to give it my all and whatever happens, happens. I'm so blessed in this life. So I'm just thankful for this moment. Like I don't have any words for it, to be honest. I know some of you might be surprised that I use the word Allah to describe Coco goes prayer or prayer to God and believe in God. Yet it doesn't change the fact that Allah is God himself. So when someone says he prayed or she prayed to God, it would also be right and plausible to say that he or she prayed to Allah. In Islamic theology, Allah is God Almighty. He's one and only. He has no partners. He has no child. He has no wife. He's above and beyond human comprehension and is the most merciful and benevolent. In fact, Coco Gov understands that she was referring to that single path for God and not Jesus Christ. If she was referring to Jesus Christ, she would have made it explicit, but she was referring to the one true God. So she actually prayed to Allah. And guess what? Allah answered her prayers. This action of prayer, it is consistent with the admonition of Allah in Surah Al-Baqarah chapter 2 verse 186. Well, I said, and when my seven asks you concerning me, indeed I am there, I respect to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon me or in Surah Ar-Raf chapter 7 verse 23, Allah says, Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves and if you do not forgive us and are messy upon us, we will surely be among the losers. These verses highlight the importance of turning to Allah, Imprayah, seeking his forgiveness and kindness and protection from difficulties and misguidance. They emphasize the concept of relying on Allah and acknowledging his nearness and ability to respond to the prayers of his sincere servants. This is exactly what Coco Gov teets, that's believing and relying on God made. We saw you say a prayer, get on your knees. You have a lot of faith. How important has that been through this journey for you? Oh, it's been so important. You know, I don't pray for results. I just asked that, you know, I get the strength to give it my all and whatever happens happens. I'm so blessed in this life. So I'm just thankful for this moment. Like I don't have any words for it to be honest. The two most important lessons we can draw from these are a great number of people are coming to realize that Jesus is not God and thus should not be bestowed with the praises and respect due to God Almighty. From Jimmy Fox to Coco Gov, Christians are now identifying with the teachings of Islam on monotheism. They are now proud to mention Allah does God has arisen behind the winds. This is commendable, mate. Coco Gov's example shows that success and faith are not mutually exclusive. You can achieve great things in your chosen field while remaining true to your religious beliefs and values. It encourages individuals to find a balance between their professional pursuits and their spiritual life. Another lesson I think is relevant to this video is faith and trust in God. Coco Gov's public acknowledgement of God's role in her success in her career demonstrates her unwavering faith and trust in Allah. Muslim can learn the importance of relying on Allah in times of success and adversity, believing that he is the ultimate source of guidance and support. Remember to like and share so that others can share in the knowledge and wisdom and admonition in this very short video. Subscribe if you have not done so already. Until next time, Assalamualaikum.


I always say, my pussy. Some people hate that word.   Blah, blah, blah. I love telling people not to stop.  Keep going. You know what I mean? I tell them about how I feel like I'm gonna explode. I always say how they're making me feel amazing.  Because I feel like if I blow your head up, I'm gonna come. You know what I mean? Because that's what I need. But also, I'm an attention whore. Well, I love that though too, because you're the expert and you make other people feel like they're the expert. That's the gift you give in the bedroom. Hi there, lovers and friends. So you're about to watch an uncut interview with myself and Weezy WTF from Horrible Decisions. Usually when I share from my podcast, I share a shortened down version, but today I'm gonna give you the full thing because it's tired. And those of you who have listened to episode 15, which is the last episode to come out on my podcast, that's called, Can We Try Something Freaky? We'll understand why it is that you're getting the level of effort that you're getting right now. And I hope it's enough for you.  So enjoy. That's pretty nuts. That's the first time I've ever heard that before in my life, but you would have that and then have a beautiful story to go with it. Thank you. Very lovely. I appreciate that. Also, I'm sorry you're Aunt Past. Good people ask me. That's an important thing to not gloss over in that story.  Oh my dad died on an eagle.  No, but I had to make it different. Yeah. I can't believe you're in New York. I know. First and foremost, let's talk about your t-shirt. Oh, this is a commemoration. She didn't die, but Carmen knife, Lisa slips in.  I had her on my show like four years ago. She's a Finn Dom. She was also on my TV show, but she's just like really intense. I don't even know what a Finn Dom is.  I kid you not. I learned every single day. You watched Euphoria. I did watch Euphoria. How do you not know what a Finn Dom is? Okay, well, maybe I just needed the explanation. I don't have the title memorized for it. Give me your degree.  Amidechondria, epididymis. Okay, amidechondria is a bacteria or is it the dangling thing in my throat? No, it's neither. It's part of it. Do you know what it is, Jared? I'm not into this episode. What's amidechondria? It's a part of a cell. Epidydymis is part of the penis. It's the part that, it's the coily thing, which is the sperm that's a child. So you can get it in a petri dish. You can't get epididymis in a petri dish, but amidechondria you can. Amidechondria actually has nothing to do with sex. I was just throwing a fancy word at you. You won, how about this?   I actually wanted to say one day, like a random thing that's wrong with me at work that wasn't really real. I feel like that's a good word. I'd be like, my amidechondria is just fucked, honestly. Yeah, and if it was, that would be a problem. So you would be accurate, that you'd be accurate.  And so you're constantly being bombarded by people's reactions to what you do for a living and how it's gonna relate to their life personally because they might have sex with you. That to be said, do you tell people what you do for a living or do you try and delay as long as possible because you know they're gonna project so much onto you? Delay, mainly for the questions.  Or I just say, I work in podcast production. And now that I say that, which technically I do, it's like, I have a new job, I'm head of audio. But you're also a TV star. I mean, girl, I'll be for you.  I just had a client come in, older white guy, he was, what was I gonna say? Looking to start a company, a podcast for his company, like a LinkedIn type of company. And when he asked me about my experience and how many listens I get, I knew what was coming next.   It is very blittling. I don't actually like, I don't ever tell people unless I have a personal hand in their success, the proud word ever. You said, I say I'm an awe of you. Like I'm an awe of what you did. I'm an awe of your accomplishments because that's me as an audience member being an awe of the splendor of you. I wouldn't go to a stage performance and tell somebody I'm proud of them. I didn't have a damn thing to do with their performance, but awe I think is different. Yeah, that's a good point.  I ran into Z-Way in LA and I was like, I am so excited for your new show.  Okay, but excited for you is beautiful things. Maybe because you preface with that, that just says first and foremost. And then also too, because you're both black women, and then it's like, I hope so, because girl, I screamed it and she laughed. She wasn't weird about it, she was like, thank you.  And she laughed. But no, when he said that, it was strange, but the thing that really is my quote unquote, claim to fame is horrible decisions. Yes. But you have a poster of it right here, so that's bizarre that you just tucked that away and brought it out just for me. I didn't even notice it was there. Oh, well, you know I'm ho, I'm sure. People can smell it on me.  You know what I mean?  Somebody would want to probably take a class from that girl to wonder how she did it. So I think it's kind of shitty, but there are moments where I do want to hide it. So to answer your question in short form, yes, I delay it. So in a business sense you want to hide it, what about in a personal sense? No, not necessarily, it depends. Sometimes I'm boasting about it. I think it just depends on the audience and who I think we'll be able to take information. Okay, so where do you commonly meet people? Like where's the number one spot that you would meet somebody? I would say really like out at clubs and or dating apps back in the day. Okay, so you met somebody at a club. I haven't been on dating app in a few years.  They ask you, what do you do for a living? What do you say? I work in podcasting. When did they get to know that you work in podcasting and are a sex expert? Who's a TV star? Maybe a date, like on our date. On the date. But one, like I don't like being like, I have a TV show. Like we could say I work in TV. You know what's crazy now that I'm thinking of it. You know, like when you, I don't know how you grew up, but when you don't have money, it's like you want everyone to see it.  And I didn't have the $900 that they cost them, dude bought them for me. And now I'm very reclusive about like, what details I want to give someone. And my friends have been boasting me up in public more. Like this really cute guy hit on me. And he said, what do you do? I said, work in podcasting. And he was like, okay.  Okay, let me tell you what else she does. And I was like, ugh. Especially because podcasting is something anybody could do. I know. So that doesn't say anything to anybody. It is. It's not me saying I'm a YouTuber. That does not scratch the surface. I mean, myself and a seven year old have that in common. And I don't have anything common to seven year old. But I know it's weird because I told someone about you recently.  Did I say fame? Recognition. Recognition came from YouTube. Yeah.  Yeah. And I was like, yeah, but I mean, they're good. Yeah. Because your work is serious. And just for anyone that like, anyone who watches your video can understand that. But you were the first person I'd ever seen pull out a camera like that in their home, tell me that they edit their own videos. And I remember you said to me, this will take a few months. I have a lot of stuff to do. And I was like, what do you mean?  And I was like, wow.  Oh, thank you. I feel the same way about you. It's very, but that's true though. But here's the thing. It's investment. I actually made a commitment to myself maybe six years ago to constantly tell people what I do for a living. And to say it, no matter if I was in an Uber, if I was in an elevator, if somebody asked if I did for a living, I would say that I talk about sex and relationships publicly. That's why I'm a public sex and relationship educator. And no matter what, I knew that every time I said that, it was a projection show.  If they felt confusion, they would try to make me feel confused.  Oh my God, this makes so much sense because I feel like if I met someone that told me that, I'd be like, girl, yes. Yes. You'd be so hyped for them because you're excited about that part of your life.  And they treat me as if I study the cracks in hardwood floor. Like, how did you come up with that? Like, it's how you were born. How did I come up with that? It's how everybody was born. It's what you hopefully did last night. So it's this notion that it's an obscure, odd thing to do for a living. And yet it powers so much of what we do. So for that reason, I wanted for me to say it. So the next person who says it in an Uber, the person's like, oh, I met a girl once who did the same thing. And they wouldn't be subject to the third degree in the same way that we are. Do you feel our responsibility? And honestly, it's not that I felt the responsibility more so than I think I just maybe have to work through how I feel about it because I'm still understanding how confident I feel in that space as far as like being able to say I'm a sex educator.  You told me when we were recording that video, of course what you do is that. And now I say it. But I think maybe the dialogue is sometimes.  I know, which is weird that I didn't even understand that or maybe I thought I needed a piece of paper to tell me. But that's why you know my decadre and I don't. Right. So be clear. That's not a sex word. I knew Finn down quick. You knew this. I don't know how to spell the other. No, but I think also, I don't even know how to have that dialogue yet sometimes with people in explaining it. If I know they'll be unsure opposed to the person that I may get the vibe is excited about it. I interviewed someone that worked at the Pleasure Chest which is a sex store in New York.  And she said 90% of the time, yes. She's like someone walks in the way they walk in their smile or if they look interested or even if they don't need help and they look open, she's like, I can tell. And then others they look like they want me to completely leave them alone because they're so embarrassed they're in here. Yes. And I think those 10% of people much like the consultation I did, I was worried of how you would view me. But that's 10% which is the fascinating part. I think that things are changing so much.  But I started at 19, now I'm 36, right? And the change I have seen in the general public's perception around sexuality in general has shifted in ways I could never predict. You did see Harvisha, right? Yeah. When you did that show, did you feel like people were looking at you like what the fuck? Cause I feel like if you did that show today, it's like, oh yeah. I mean, I did it not long ago, I did like three, four years ago but the Steve Harvey show in truth is a lot of the reason why I'm married right now. Why? Because he was so shameful towards me for not being married. And I experienced that from so many different levels and different people and it just became a thing for me where it's kind of like the piece of paper thing of people constantly asking you to validate why you're here. I think that's because as a young presenting woman of color in general, people are not accustomed to seeing me as an authority. And so seeing me as an authority in a topic that they feel insecure about or they feel unsure about makes them immediately very uncomfortable. So then it becomes a constant tear down show. So I just have, my entire career has been me assessing what are the most common themes of ways that people are trying to tear me down and let me fill in the gaps, which is why I'm back in school right now to get my degree. It's like you gotta know your, I remember when we did the breakfast club, Mandy and I, you know, everyone knows we get into our little thing maybe the word frenemy has been used, but she said to me like, I don't want them to talk about how we don't get along. Like, I don't think this is a good look for us. Yeah. And I was like, and if they do, like I have an answer, let me handle it. Now, Charlemagne never did that because he loves us. That's the truth. He could have went way harder. But I mean, my answer to that immediate would be like, hey, y'all fight all the time. We saw Ange unfollow you. Like people work at it. You know, they work together every day. This is more than a marriage sometimes. We share bank accounts, livelihood and personal time, like all of it. Not only is our work like just typing up, you know, episode pages, we have to connect and have chemistry for it to be good. And I think that like answering that question is easy. And so now what I've done is anything I think someone can use to weaponize against me. Yeah. I just take care of it my own. I've like figured out what my response is. Yes. And sometimes figuring that response means filling the gaps for yourself because you know that people are going to test and try you. People are not comfortable listening to you as an expert. In my experience as a dator, people were not comfortable acknowledging me as an expert. Even, and I always get asked that question, like as a sex expert, do men find you intimidating? And I was like, absolutely. But I would never have sex with those men. I could tell right away if I said to somebody, oh, I talk about sex for a living and they'd be like, where'd you go to school? What's your title? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they'd be like, well, so what makes you so good in bed? Like, okay, I see what's going on here.  And I'm not comfortable because I don't, I don't want to.  Oh, it's very annoying. Someone I slept with recently said that to me and it pissed me off.  And he made a joke when like, I was like, ugh, or like made a noise. Like, okay, Ms. Horrible Decisions. Oh, so annoying.  Like, oh great.  But like, it's huge. Like I'm sure the biggest pussy in the world would still be like, that's a lot.  Great compliment to him. But it's things like that, right? Now granted, I laughed it off and it's not that big of a deal but it's those moments where someone meets you and they do say that. I've already been sleeping with this person. I feel like we had the, what's the word? Report to do that.  You know what's fascinating? Think about it. I just had this epiphany when women talk about their sexual experiences, they talk about the performance of the men. When men talk about their sexual experiences, they talk about if they killed it.  Like it's an eye focused thing where women be like, he was amazing in bed. He was so fantastic. So I think that the notion for you as a woman who's great in bed, which I imagine you to be, and you are. Would you, are you comfortable saying that? Yeah, yeah.   She killed it. I had to literally remove a section of my last podcast with a friend of mine, a mutual friend between Mandy and I, I slept with his friend and he goes, Weezy, I heard you a demon. And as excited as I was and as much as I like was loving to hear that, which did I go ham a little bit because I knew he would tell my friend? Probably. However, I had to take it out because I was like, you know what? This makes it sound like I almost led him to that question.  So I took it out. That's probably again, I don't know that you have something to get over with that. I think you have like a minimization complex. Really? Yeah, that's, I mean, there's two proofs in the pudding for us. You minimize what you do for a living and you minimize your performance in bed because you don't want to feel like you're boastful but it's not, it's just the facts. That's it though. That's probably why I want them to have a sex podcast.  You know what I'm saying? Not like, oh, it's tried and true from horrible decisions.  If I go to classes to learn, it's 90% women who are in those classes who are like, I want to become a better lover. Oh yeah.  This is an area that a lot of women have said I want to get better at and I am comfortable investing my time and my dollar in that process. I would still go to a class like that. Would you? 100%, I still go.  Yeah, I'm in classes all the time. I mean, I learned from you all the time. So I'm always learning. People ask me that like, how does it get boring to talk about what I talk about for a living? I'm like, you can't because I learned something new every day. People always ask me about run out. How do you not run out of episodes? I'm like, cause I can do 10, three some episodes and they're all different. I could talk to somebody in the elevator and learn a word I'd never heard of before and then do a whole entire episode about it. I could do one about fin doms. Didn't know. I'm not sure if I'm saying that. I knew, but I didn't know. I don't know what's the fin even short for. It actually made me think just now I told someone I'm having you and Jared on and they were like, well, didn't you already have Shane on your podcast? Yeah. I was like, yeah, now she has a baby and now her husband's here. Like, now they can talk together. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, why would it not be different? Like, I do a show with Mandy five years. They don't never say, damn y'all sitting together again.  And I think that like when you don't maybe even work in the realm of sex or you're not as open to talking about it, you do think it's like right here. This is all you have to talk about with sex. Oh my gosh. It's just in this bubble. It's like I said, if I can learn something new every day, somebody who has had this conversation five times in their life or for two weeks in high school during sex ed, there's a lot of gaps you can fill in for yourself. What's the newest thing you've learned about sex that surprised you recently? Oh, the newest thing. Even if it's like within the year and you were like, oh my goodness. Okay. Actually, something I didn't know that men use shower heads to masturbate the same way that women do. Really?  And then I just found that out. I was doing a casual conversation with somebody and then they were like, yeah, well I masturbated a lot with the shower head. And I was like, oh, I didn't know that. They use the jet stream function. And then I watched Dave and then he did that in the episode. And I was like, Oh, I haven't watched season two yet. Yeah. Did you know that? No. Yeah. I didn't realize that they get the pulsating sensation. But you know what's interesting too, because when we think about trans women who get bottom surgery, right?  And you can still orgasm from them.  You can still lick it and you can engage it in the same way. So it makes sense that you can use the same technique to orgasm that somebody with a clitoris. I gotta watch a video of this. I'm trying to think. I'd say the most recent thing I learned was probably about men being hardwired, which if anyone hasn't heard that term, it's that they like their nipples played with. And I'm not saying I didn't understand that men like their nipples played with, but this was the first time where I really seen it like, oh my God, like someone was like going crazy for it. And it was exciting.    And he literally couldn't come if I wasn't holding them. Oh wow. Now with this other guy, the one who's super well endowed, like he didn't really want to ask for it. But once it happened, it's just like the sensitivity all around his chest was so high end. And he got harder, just like literally like pulsating just from that. And I was like, holy shit, I feel like I found the holy grail. You know statistically it's equivalent to the amount of people with a penis, amount of people with vulvas who will experience one, a nipple gasm or two will enjoy it. Cause I don't necessarily enjoy nipple play that much. But- What's the percentage? Cause I do. I think it's a higher for people with vulvas, but I think it's more so because of the fact that they get it all the time. So more of aware of it. But I know it's 50, 50 in terms of who might be able to orgasm from it. But I think that the statistics of who would identify as liking it is like 70, 30. But as a loose example, J-nose is coming. Jared's a nipple guy. I'm not a nipple person. So in our relationship, it's already flipped. Oh my God, look at the world and statistics. Look at the world. Okay, let me finish with what I thought in this. So the point I was making is that there's a lot of regular people who are becoming more educated and empowered in this space who are afraid to bring their knowledge into the bedroom because their partner might be intimidated by it. That's very true. Think about when someone doesn't wanna bring their A-game in the beginning. Yes. So what would you say to people like that? In terms of your own journey and your experience as a public sex educator, who people already make assumptions about you? Well, to be honest, it's funny because like as much as I quote unquote hide it in the beginning, I think that for me, one thing that I do like doing is putting my best foot forward with sex because I really like to please. And I think that it's just a better experience all around if you do put your best effort in. You know what I mean? I feel like so many times we have such a shitty first experience. So I don't know why, if all of us know first times can be awkward and weird, why we wouldn't wanna help that out and not even help it out but like counteract it just by being better in bed. And I don't think it's at all a problem to bring your quote unquote A-game.  Like, why not?  Like I know men that love hands, men that don't, you know what I mean? Balls, some not. Some with nibbling. Like you may not be the best at giving him head. Like everybody's penis involved is different, right? So who knows? But I do think that putting an effort in sex makes you a better lover already.  And it wasn't the house, it was my hotel room, I was in LA. And I remember he was like, are you okay? And he was chill. I was like, yeah, I was like, look, I know this is awful but I'm gonna feel better in like two hours. So let's just chill. We're gonna get something to eat.  Let me have a shower and we gonna go in. And he laughed.  And I was like, you know what? That's a story. He's gonna tell his friends. Probably a few hours before it.  But like, why not? Like I don't get, I don't know. I don't get why I guess like things have to ruin it.  Like I think we should always be going ham. Do you think it also helps to inform?  But because of the fact that you brought your comfortability and you brought what makes you feel good and you brought that pleasure to the person and they've rejected it, did that actually help you to say, oh, I guess we're not sexually compatible. So is there ever a reason not to say this is who I am, this is what I like? I mean, we have amazing sex, which was what really sucked about that. It was a remote control vibrator. We were at dinner, maybe it was too much. I thought it was funny. I mean, everybody like, I always think it's a gag when someone has their remote and like you're squirming and like I thought he would enjoy it, especially considering like he's watched me use toys. So I was just really floored, but I don't know. Like I've been questioning that a lot too. Like, does this mean I'm not sexually compatible with this person? I'm missing that one thing, but the sex is great. So many, like I can count on one hand the most amazing mind blowing sex partners I've had. I can, like I can, there's a lot of motherfuckers I forgot. In that moment, did you experience any shame life? Oh my God, I was so embarrassed Shane. So embarrassed. To the point where when I came back from the bathroom, he was like, why are you running from this conversation?  And you were like, I'm gonna stick to scallops. Yeah. Fuck. I was so embarrassed. And yeah, it was awkward. It led into like a lot larger of a conversation into him feeling like he wasn't enough for me sexually, which I never felt like he wasn't. So I don't know. I'm actually really pleased that he did that. Cause that's a completely fair. You know what I was into people? He's a great communicator. There's nothing wrong with in the moment being like this is too much for me at this present time. Because at the end of the day, there's so many things that I had to read about. I had to watch videos about before I thought to incorporate it into my own sex life. So sometimes when we bombard somebody in that exact instant with something they never even heard of before in that moment, their immediate response is to reject it. That's okay. But if they can say not like, you're a slut, you're dirty, cause that's the other projection. I feel uncomfortable and weird. And as a result of me feeling inadequate, I'm gonna make you feel weird about it. I agree with you there. I didn't like, I was embarrassed, but his response was very mature. Very mature. I think that like, definitely he shouldn't have done it if he didn't want to. Yes.  And like, I don't really feel like I brought it out of the craziest time.  Well, I think though, to that point about like- And we were a little tipsy. Does this inform me whether or not this is a compatible partner for me? I think the fact that he was able to admit his own insecurities rather than project that onto you says this is a compatible partner.  I honestly, you're right. Like when he said it to me, I felt like, okay, this is great. But I think for him, then he was like, oh shit, like she's gonna feel like she can't tell me about this or she can't do it.   You should. I don't think I ruined it at all. I ruined it. You didn't ruin it.  And basically it was in me for three hours, Shan. I didn't, he was stressed about work. So I was like, you know what?  And once he finally got loose, then I'm bringing it out. And you're like, oh. But I think that he just said not right now, not me. I didn't have to go take it out. You didn't have to. You could have kept it in. You could have just pressed play on your own. Oh, relax yourself. This is why I took it out. This is even funnier. I wanted to pay for the drinks or something.  Oh, amazing. And I was like, oh, great. Oh, this is why we got into a conversation. I was like, I set it off on my own. I guess I'll go fix it.  Oh, that was my top five. No, like, I don't know if I have five. I'm not embarrassed too often, but that was up there. I didn't even tell anyone yet. Oh, wow. I think I did the same thing too. I don't think it went well. I think I had, but I don't think I liked it. I don't like those vibrators. I find that if things aren't very specific, if it's just like vibrating the general areas on doing anything for me, but I think I gave somebody remote control. That makes sense. And it didn't work well.  Is there a difference in the way that women respond to your expertise versus how men respond to your expertise? Women think I'm saving the world.  You know what I mean? Men would be like, well, when are you gonna stop? Like, grow out of it. Like, I mean, women are just so respectful of, for one, I think it's because as women, we probably all have an uncomfortable moment about our sexuality, where men are taught to be proud and showy about it, and girls are like, should you? I think one of the most memorable moments I had, I was at the cubby hole, which is a lesbian bar in New York. And this girl came up to me, said she knew me from horrible. So girl I was flirting with was like, what's that? And I was like, what's my podcast?   I'm embarrassed now. That's what she said. What? Because she said her job was boring. Oh, okay, fair enough. And I was laughing about it.  You tell me, I've been talking the whole time. And I was like, wow, like you think when you're younger, like New York and Wall Street, that must be like the dream job.  Yes. And I really appreciated that. And that was one of those aha moments of like, okay, I am doing something good. That was a while ago too, but I remember she was like, what the fuck? Why was I even talking? And I don't think men could do that. There's no way a man could do that. What's the best reaction a man's ever given you before is what you do. Has you ever had sex?  And afterwards they said, you are phenomenal. You know what you're doing. Yes. Both times. Yeah. I'm sorry. So you're right. Like for sure. The one that I remember, actually it was the guy that I'm talking about. And he said my first name, I was going down on him. He said, okay, Gila, like, okay. And we've been friends for years. And I was like loving it. It was like, I'm making me like gag more. But I thought that was great. And I remember with a woman after we were done, she says, I take it back. And I was like, what? And she was like, well, technically you didn't know.  Yeah. And I think with women too, like even the L word, it was almost made like someone said to me once, she's like, when I was younger watching it, I was like, huh, am I doing something wrong?  Like lesbian sex can be different, right?  Like I had a girl like do this really weird doggie style thing with me, with her pelvic bone. And I'm like, why don't you watch this? Yeah. Heteroporn? But no, I mean, I've definitely had compliments from it and it was great and had compliments and they'll make jokes about my show. But with women, yeah, all around, they're definitely better about it. We have, now I have female employees, right? And even I've noticed when there's a male engineer doing my podcast or a girl, like there's even moments where I'll get more comfortable and the guys that work here are great. And I've known them for years, but there's this moment where like I start talking about maybe just something going on. Let's just say it could be BV. And if there's a girl sitting there, I'll probably talk more.  Just knowing that we're only women in the room, I know that she'll understand what I'm saying.  Yes, yes.  So best reaction I've ever had, I would say, from a guy. I'm trying to think actually the best reactions I have are always men that work, quote unquote, industry or entertainment because they understand the wildest clips they'll see of me are even though the story could be true are performative and they understand that this is work and me talking about my sexuality isn't a bad thing and that I make money this way. Whereas I've noticed with quote unquote regular guys, not that, you know, one is worse than the other. They can both make the same amount of money. I'm not B Simone here, but I couldn't believe she's on that. But anyway, they will more so want privacy or kind of not even shame me for what I do more than the world knows. Do you often feel like you come into scenarios where you know more than the other person does? Yeah. And does that reflect in the sexual experience in terms of power play? No, I'm super submissive. I don't mind if someone doesn't know quote unquote, bindom or whatever. Like, I love being able to teach people about those things. I think it's fun, especially having conversations. I remember recently with a guy, he was like, have you ever had a cold thing? And I was like, of course. And he was like, oh my God, tell me have you interviewed somebody about it? He was genuinely intrigued. Those kinds of things are fun when I know more. But I haven't really had an inexperienced partner in a while. I'll say that. I've just been lucky. On the most granular level possible, a lot of women are uncomfortable. Make it in my phone for you, love. Oh, can you mark this minute? You have me? It's just so she knows. I think it should just come up. I think it should just come up. Yeah. Like one piece. I think you're gonna have four or not one piece. Oh, she, oh, look at that. I'll get a credit card. Yeah. See how women are? Do you know how pleasurable that's going to be to take off? I know. I love those like videos of, what's it called? Like the satisfying things and you're what? Not ASMR, what? There's a word. ASMR is the sound. It's like you can watch like maybe gel being pulled apart together like paint. Oh, I don't know what those are called. Like a pimple popping video. Yeah. But not as pimply. Okay. So on a more granular, bitch, okay. On a more granular level, a lot of women are uncomfortable directing their partner in the bedroom, telling them what they like. As if it's embarrassing to say I know how my body works. What advice do you have for them? I think that we all laugh about fake orgasms and how we shouldn't be having them, but you have to actually be the one to execute that. Like I've definitely in the past have faked it just so it could be over, but then we're part of the problem.   Like I don't actually think, and some can disagree and I don't know how you would go about it, but I don't think it's good to talk over dinner. I think it's better when you're going down on me to tell you what I like, because then I can say it in a mony way and like give you a bunch of praise when it feels really good. Yeah, I don't know, or via text message in a sexting way. For example, men that maybe want their women to use less teeth, either sign a sexy video or tell them that you want them to wrap their lips around, like to make them really tight. I don't know, but you know what I'm saying. Yes. I think if you make it in a sexting way, it's okay. Yeah, a lot of people think about talking about. Like erotica. They got to say what they don't like. Like I got to let you know what you're doing that's wrong versus here's what you're doing that's right. Like if you're too slow, you've got to be like, yo, I love it when you're fast. I love it when your tongue is flickering really quick. Like just, that's it. Yeah.  Right. It's inception. Did I do it?  And I was like, is he confusing me with someone?  He listens to horrible decisions. He's taking tips on how to communicate that. Yes, sir. But that's the thing. A lot of people feel uncomfortable saying what they like because they don't want to intimidate their partner with the fact that they know more that they're an expert in this area. Yeah.  What makes them want to sex expert?  That's very different. You have information that you can share with others. But if I know my body inside and out in a way that nobody else does, I'm an expert on my body and how to have sex with this body.  So I think an expert is somebody who's got information that is pertinent to the other person's happiness or wellbeing.  Well, how do you feel about, and would you encourage people?   And she's like, I'm talking about sex out the gate in the text messages, seeing what they like. I would prefer to do that after I've already had sex with them. Sometimes I don't like to be too presumptuous.  Yeah. I'm a big fan of talking about it before, but it's a style thing. I mean, communication in the day, like some people prefer to argue over text. It's just, they're an easier way for them to get their emotions out without getting triggered or getting too crying in the moment. So you get to choose what style works best for you. As long as you're not, you know, hard and fast, because if somebody else wants to bring it up over dinner, because that's their comfort level, if you can play on their level, but then also bring them into your world, I think that's what makes it hard and fast. Can't be hard and fast, you know what I'm saying? They're flexible with it. So I, I don't know, but I love the advice that you gave that it can be done in the moment.  It should be fun. It should be wet. It should be, and inviting. It should be hot. It should be part of the story that you share.  Like, I think someone wrote, this was years ago. She was like, I don't know what to say. I sound crazy. And her name was Maria something. I was like, girl, it looked like you speak Spanish. So do a little bit of that. And then just tell them what you want.  Like dirty talk is so easy for me. Can you do a live tutorial right now, how to own your expertise in the bedroom by telling your partner exactly what you want? So for you, what would it sound like? A live tutorial? Yeah. Okay. I don't have an only fans yet girl, but I'm gonna get one when I fall off though. Okay. There's gonna be a moment where it's like, you know what it shouldn't be what it used to be. And then first is gonna start with toes. And then I'm gonna get to pussy. All right, live tutorial, let me think. Let's give me an example. What are they doing wrong? They're not doing anything wrong, but you wanna make sure everything goes very right. Or maybe they're doing, I don't know what you like, so I don't know what's wrong for you. Okay, fair. I can't do it in the Mony Boys cause it makes me get, I'm not a good actress. But for one, if they're doing something completely right, I'd start talking, I always say my pussy. Some people hate that word.   I love telling people not to stop.  Keep going, you know what I mean? I tell them about how I feel like I'm gonna explode. I always say how they're making me feel amazing.  Because I feel like if I blow your head up, I'm gonna come. Yeah. You know what I mean? Cause that's what I need. But also I'm an attention whore. Well, I love that though too, because you're the expert and you make other people feel like they're the expert. That's the gift you give in the bedroom. That's a good point. I have a new dog. I've been talking to her like this the whole time. And like, I wanna know where this is going.  But like, was she even doing good? Oh my God, Nina's made a good pee pee. Nina's the best pee pee girl. Keep pee pee, Nina. Oh my God, it's crazy.  And I'm like, Nina is the best pee pee girl ever. Like it's so weird. Do you know what's actually funny? Now think about it. That's the thing that I do because I always say to people, my goal is to make everybody an expert in their own sex life. But I think that's also me deflecting off of the awkwardness because I know people are judging my right to be an expert. So by sharing it with them, it now becomes a thing they don't have to attack me for because we have it in common. Do you think people judge you because you're hot? Like, do you think that we, I don't know, I think of Dr. Ruth all the time. And like, how just doctors or people in a medical profession or anyone that's just a health expert, I'm kind of like, what do you know? Yeah.  So a different respect that she automatically gets. And she's older. And so we're accustomed to seeing experts look like that. I know like a friend of mine, he's an older white bald male psychologist. And he said that his superpowers, no matter where he goes, people think that he's works there or he owns the building. He could be at Trader Joe's, he could be at his studio, but his presence just looks like I'm in charge here. Where my presence just looks like, where's the bathroom? So people have a hard time when they see me behind the desk. And because I feel uncomfortable with that, I think I tried to share that with them to be like, no, you're behind the desk. I'm having deja vu. A blonde friend of mine, like literally she self-proclaimed dumbest girl ever. Valley voice, like everything. When we were moving into this building, it wasn't a landlord, they're chill, someone else, the moving company. I was signing off on furniture from CB2. And he handed it to her and she was like, why are you giving this to me? And he was like, you did the order, right? And she was like, no, this is hers. And he says, but I need the person who owns it and who paid for the order to sign it. And I was still looking at him and I was like, well, didn't you guys call me to be here? Yeah.  But you know what? I make an effort all the time now. And I know we get so off track as you and I talk forever.   There's the shirt I'm wearing right now. Technically. With your bra. To my office. Right.  And she has an afro. And I just feel like, yeah, it is what it is. Like I love like not looking the part cause it almost like makes me feel better. But you look the part for what you do. Do you think so? Yes, I think so. Everybody here thinks so. What if it wasn't the sex podcast? Like working in a studio, working in production. I mean, I would be like good for you.    That's also white. That is not WPS. No, with a white shirt. So I can see what color your nipples are. I'm just saying that in general it all works. And I think this is the perfect way to end the podcast. It is. We're done. All right, as an add in, what is the thing that forever do the I'm wheezy and you can find me add thing? Oh. Camera? I don't know when this is gonna come out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm wheezy. You can find me at wheezy WTF. If you want to see me in person, come to the studio. WTF media studios 265 Canal Street. Stock me at my podcast, Horrible Decisions or watch my TV show on fuse. Sex sells. Shan should have been on there. You'll be on there for a season two. Thank you. You were pregnant. You got season two?  Congratulations. Good job, thank you. Thank you for watching. If you enjoyed that longer clip, you might also enjoy the 50 minute episode that accompanies this interview. So go and find lovers and friends with shampoo drum wherever you get podcasts, find episode 15. Can we try something freaky? And I hope you enjoy it.


Apologize. And we are the largest, you know, the largest, one of the largest employers in the area. So, so that's a great, that's a great start. And also, this is a new prime minister. This is not the old prime minister that got in trouble. He actually was at the World Bank. And he came to because, you know, we are a very, very large license grow, arguably, one of the largest, if not the largest in the world at 495 hectares. And we've made substantial progress since the visit of the king, which was a little over a year and a half ago. So the government keeps tabs on us to see how we're doing, because it's very much of a cooperative effort. And now we're producing thousands of kilograms of high grade flour. GACP is around the corner four to six weeks. It's just a matter of building infrastructure. And we're already selling within Africa. And we'll be exporting out of Africa within the next four to six weeks. But what we're finding is a very large business within Africa itself at very high margins. So I wouldn't be surprised if all the product we have currently on our menu or on the shelf is sold off before we even get GACP. Wow, that's impressive. Yeah. There's a lot of demand medicinally in Africa in and of itself. And that's, you know, indicated in our presentations and indicated just by the research. It's very much, how do I say it? It's not a cultural taboo in Africa, as we know from, you know, just Ethiopia and Holly Selassie and Jamaica and all of that good stuff. Wow. That's really, really impressive. So let's talk a little bit about the triangle can update. Can you give us a little bit of update on that? Well, we're just waiting for the county licenses, and it's a unique process where the county, Lake County and the state are working in parallel because it's such a massive number of licenses. No company to date has applied for more than 200 licenses in the state. I think 190 is the largest, which is pro farms. Wow. This is 260 plus licenses just in the first phase. Then you're looking at 20 acres of greenhouse, which I think is as large or if not larger than what Glasshouse is planning, which was just purchased by Mercer. The one thing that's really cool is we got our CEQA study done, which is our California Environmental Impact Study done. That's a big deal that went through 20 agencies. So typically what you would do is you would get your early activation, do your CEQA, apply for permanent licenses. So we're getting our early activation, have our CEQA in, and we hopefully will get all the greenhouses cleared by June or July as well. We're just waiting for that approval. That's a really big announcement. California's largest number of licenses to one company, which would be Triangle as we call it, which is a joint venture between us and Green Matter, as well as to be able to say that the largest single site growing California and the third largest in the United States is quite a significant achievement. That's a huge achievement. Congratulations on all your hard work and effort. You guys are still not there. Still not time to light the cigar, so to speak, or the categories, we would say. Well, I think that you guys have done a lot of progress. You guys have had a lot of progress and as a company that's now working internationally and is getting into psychedelics, we haven't even gone into that, and that's a whole nother world. You guys are now becoming a major player in the cannabis space. I'm excited to see what you guys can do with psychedelics. You guys are in Malta. You guys are in the UK. You guys are in Africa. You guys are in Canada. You guys are in the US. I mean, it's a lot of work. When do you sleep? Yeah, I don't sleep, actually. I think part of it also is rationalizing the business. As we look at it, there are really three segments to the business. There's the US segment, there's the international segment, which we include Canada in that, where their federally legal frameworks for marijuana, either medicinally or recreationally, and then there's all the non-280E businesses we bought, which we've already announced that we're spinning out to shareholders through a return of capital and a return of shares on the CSC, and we've called that Halotech. Yes. Looking at the international businesses, they have a longer lead time of growth, but they have a higher growth potential. Africa has, I mean, tremendous growth potential, like I've never seen in cannabis. And they're already, MJ Pharma's already shipping GMP product to Germany, albeit on a small scale. You have other people actively now in Lesotho as well that have struggled through, let's call it the early years, we've been there almost three years, and you're starting to see massive scale. And I think, I hope we'll be putting out an update in the next week, just talking about just some of the numbers we're hitting there, meaning that we're growing real high quality cannabis that could be sold in California dispensaries in Africa. And it took us a while to dial it in. I mean, it took us probably two years of propagation to dial it in. But now it's pretty much dialed in. And we're really, I mean, we're really cranking and Andreas is there and Gordy's there. We're looking to, we've been actively recruiting a head person for the international business. Actually, where it looks like we're finalizing hiring someone who's very prominent. And, and that'll be great. And the one thing that's interesting, people say, you know, NASDAQ, what are our plans? Well, really, we as a plant touching US company, operating in California, and in Oregon, unless there's a change in federal legislation cannot go on NASDAQ. But ironically, our international operations, if we were to organize them into a separate company, could list on NASDAQ. Flora just did it. Our former vice chairman, Fred actually is a director there. They filed an F1 and they just listed in on NASDAQ and raised a bunch of money with Bowsted securities. So our international assets potentially can list on NASDAQ. And they could list within the next three to six months, there's, you know, because we have the audits done, everything's done. Our and I believe it's just personally that our international assets, if they were floated on NASDAQ or the LSE, based on other public comparable companies, could exceed our entire market cap that we have now. And that's to the benefit of our shareholders, of course, you know, I saw Robbie's business, MJ, MG Pharma or MGC Pharma list on the LSE and, and he's doing less, I think he's doing less revenue than we do in Africa. And he's listed at what, 150 million pounds or something on the LSE and it's trading. So the international business really is where the future is at. And that's why, you know, we sent, you know, basically we're three partners, Phillip Andreas and myself, and Andreas moved to Lesudu. I mean, he's down there with his family right now, living and building that out. I'd say living the dream, he's living the African dream right now as winter approaches. It's a bigger, it's a big undertaking to go into another country. And like you said, to grow California style cannabis in Africa is not a small undertaking. That's a big undertaking. And you said it took you some time, but you figured it out. We want some of that here in Vancouver. Oh yeah, we're growing holy grail, chocolate loop, we're growing, you know, we're growing some bomb stuff. And I hear you guys, Garela glues all the rave. We got a lot of great Garela glue out there. We'll show some test results. We'll show what we have. And hopefully Andreas is, you know, continuing the business to business African sales, right? So that's going really well.  And there's a whole bunch of more questions before I get into those questions from the audience. And we have over 84 people watching right now. We've had almost 100 on all social media watching us live. Can you go through the Q1 financials? I thought that they were impressive. I went through it. I was impressed. Yeah, you guys are in the right direction. What's really interesting about it is it's almost like you got to look at it as a graph. So as a public company, we have a certain fixed cost that goes like this. And what we're trying to do is reduce that fixed cost like legal is a massive cost in this business by bringing in a general counsel. We now have security. We pay a fortune in security. We're bringing in a head of security to bring security in-house. We've spent a ton of money on regulatory affairs.  So what we see is a leveling off and a reduction in, let's call it, our public company costs. So now it's a question of throwing off enough operating profit contribution to cover those costs. Currently, let's say we're clipping at around 4 million a month in sales. And we're right now, I'd say in every month, we're improving. Obviously, April to May, we're not going to probably improve in revenues because April's 420, but May Memorial Day kicks in, you never know. But we're growing every month, but our margins are improving. And all of our operating businesses, with the exception of Lesudu, are finally throwing off cash, which is a big achievement for us. So besides what we're sinking into Africa and into the UK, which is a longer-term investment, the rest of the company is throwing off cash. Now it's a question of at what revenue level, we're at 4 million. Do we start to realize positive EBITDA? And it's really at that level of, I would say, about 10 million. So at about 10 million, we're EBITDA positive. Now a lot of people say, well, how do you get to 10 million from 4 million? That makes no sense. And what I tell them is it's really simple. Our core business, which is the sale of cannabis products to dispensaries in Oregon and California, continue to grow. And I think over the next three to six months, we can grow it from 4 to 6 million, right? So there you go, 2 million. We're bringing up our dispensaries. I'd say that we'll bring up, I was just talking with Phillip and Katie about this. We should bring up our first one in Westwood in July. And it's a prime location. It's Little Santa Monica in Beverly Glen, right by that 24-hour McDonald's. It's really cranking. So we're going to get that going by July. And then by August, I want to get Franklin Village going, which GEZ literally can walk to from his home up in the Hollywood Hills. So cool. So cool they work with GEZ, man. Yeah, I know. My daughters were saying, oh, do you know GEZ? And I said, God, I just got to LA and I haven't spoken to him. And I need to meet with him regarding this one packaging thing. So I just messaged him and he messaged me back right away, saying, I'm in the studio. Come tomorrow and set up a time. But no, he's very into it.  We don't pay him. He's an equity owner and flower shop. Absolutely.  I've seen you guys sitting down together. And it's pretty wild. It's pretty wild. It's cool. Yeah. And so not to digress, but so 4 to 6 million, let's say we take up our core dispensary business and then we kick in, we kick in our own dispensaries, let's say conservatively 2 million, 2 million a month, 3 million a month by the end of the year, then we just got to find another, we just got to find another, say million, a million dollars somewhere. And then you're looking at probably 10 million run rate. And as I said, 8 million, we're profitable. And then when it's sort of like what I call butts on seats in a theater or seats on an airplane, the money just starts to fall to the bottom line. And so that's the formula. It's a simple formula to success. Well, I mean, you guys have already been growing.  I mean, I remember when it wasn't that long ago, when you guys were only doing a million a month. That's right. I mean, it's growing, it's growing really fast. That's right. I think that besides just through what I call delivering better and better results every quarter, what I think that we need to do also is, as I said, we return halo tech capital to shareholders. That should give us three to four cents right there of value to shareholders. And if we're able to somehow organize our international business and actually, listed, I mean, that's going to return, that could return double the share price to shareholders, you know, conservatively. That's why I spent all my 35,000 in my brokerage account yesterday, got to wire more money in, just found out wire money and I'm not in Canada. My brokerage account is in Canada and TD, I have to join their private banking group to be able to not have to walk into a bank and wire money into my brokerage account. But yeah, so, but no, I'm a firm believer. Someone just asked a question about, you know, Ryan K, Ryan is completely active. He's active in two areas. The first thing he's active in is Ryan does a lot of work in Washington with cookies and the jungle boys. So he's active in trying to get us licenses in Oregon, you know, with top players. The second thing is he's a massive indoor grower in Washington. So he's helping us develop an in our indoor growth strategy in California and in, and in Oregon. And the third thing he's doing, which he's very active in, is he's fully active in the dispensaries. I mean, here's a guy who's, you know, with Mr. Green and have a heart is the largest dispensary operator in Washington. And everyone forgets that he's the one that sold the 10 dispensaries to harvest in California that now is high times dispensaries. I mean, he operated those. So he is, I mean, he is very, very active.  He's flying to bar X, we try to figure out how we position the greenhouses with Jed next week. He was just in LA with Katie walking through the dispensary sites, getting construction crews lined up. I mean, Robin Francisco, he just brought to us. He's bringing a person to head up security so we can reduce cost. He's referring general counsel to us. He's slowly bringing his team over. Right. So, you know, he's, you know, definitely if you want to interview him at one point, I'm sure he'd love to do that. I'd love to. Yeah.  The more we get the chance to get to know the company and the CEO and CFO and, you know, the marketing team, the more investors get comfortable with the company, the more familiar they get with the company, the more that they want to invest in the company. I think that that's a big part of Rich TV Live. And we've been doing this for quite some time and a lot of our community really loves Halo Labs, you know, and a lot of our community loves what you've done, Kieran. And there's a lot of questions. There's a lot of people here because you guys have built a lot of momentum in a market that has been bumpy, right? Really choppy. And I don't just mean the overall stock market. I mean the cannabis sector. Cannabis sector has been super up and down. We've seen highs that were just incredible highs. We've seen lows that were just terrible lows. And it's kind of stabilized now. And we've seen that in America specifically, very, very successful. We've seen some huge success stories in America. As a Canadian, it's kind of humbling and kind of frustrating because we haven't seen the success. We just haven't. Investors haven't seen it. Companies haven't seen it. So because you guys are an international player, because you guys are in America, you know, mainly based in America, but now spreading your wings and growing internationally, how do you think you're well positioned right now to be that company that people consider investing their money into? Because a lot of people are asking the question, why should I invest in Halo? There's so many competitors. There's 400 companies out there. Well, I think that if you look at where Halo's valued relative to its competitors, just on a publicly comparable basis, it's only getting value for California and Oregon. If, as I said, if the international assets alone, they would comp at over 150 million US, that's 200 million. The international assets alone are worth more than our entire market cap, right?  Wow, someone's actually investing a million to $2 million at a $30 million valuation. Canadian, that's two, that's two cents a share. So can you explain exactly how that works for investors? What exactly are they getting? So basically, we take all the Halo tech assets, we put it in its own public company and we float it on the CSE and it trades and all those shares go to shareholders. They're dividend or reap the capital's return to the shareholders. So everyone who's a shareholder at the time of record gets a share in a brand new CSE company. And so if you're sitting on our hands there. Absolutely. So if you own $1,000 worth of Halo, you're going to get how much worth of tech? Do you know the number? About, it's about 5%, so meaning not in that sense, but it's again, you'll get about three cents of Halo share value that isn't factored into Halo stock in tech. Okay, so guys, that's another three cents of value. Yeah, so essentially what you're saying is we don't shareholder, sorry, what you're saying is if you're a shareholder of Halo labs and is there the specific date that they need to be shareholders by? Well, I think the record date's probably going to come within the next 60 days. So if you're a shareholder in the next 60 days, you're going to get a dividend, which would be like a free shares of a spin-out company that will be on the Canadian Securities Exchange. Correct. Beautiful. So this is a gift for shareholders for being a long-term investor in Halo. The investors that get in and holder shares will get free shares of this new pubco that will be opening up.  So I applaud that. That is also part of our intent with our international assets that aren't getting value is to, again, we believe that they as a separate company run by its own, let's say CEO and its own board, our shareholders will get value. I mean, we are large shareholders. So we're all about giving the shareholders value. So it's the same concept that if we can pull it off, a Halo shareholder will get shares in a NASDAQ company that's comprised of our international assets or an LSE company. So that is exactly what we're planning to do. And someone says, a dividend in this sector is unheard of. And that's true. Correct. And a U.S. cannabis company owning European assets was unheard of until we did it and Cura just did it, right, which is the largest U.S. company. It is a dividend of sorts. It's a return of capital. I'm watching people discuss it. But in essence, people who own Halo shares on that record date will get shares in a CSE company called Halo tech. Similarly, we do the same thing with our international assets. They will get shares in that business as well. And right now the only sector that's hot is the LSE and right now NASDAQ with international cannabis plays outside North America. So if you own a warrant, are you entitled to it? No, unless you exercise the warrant and own a share, you're not entitled to it. A warrant is just the right to buy a share, but you don't get the rights with it. We have a question here from Lorbox. Who will be appointed CEO of the Buffalo spin off? So all I can say is that that I had a conversation with Bruce Linton because he knew both of the candidates intimate. He knew one of them intimately. And I thought he knew the other one. And he told me that the one person that we really liked is well worth his weight and gold. And he recommended him highly for the job. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. And this is from Adele. You mentioned on a conference call yesterday that there will be no reverse. So how do we get to the NASDAQ with the share structure right now without a reverse? Or is the reverse only in the case of you're ready to make the application for the NASDAQ? Okay. So again, when you look at Halo's financial results, what you're seeing is sales almost 95% of the sales. There was a little sales in Africa booked, but 95% of the sales are California and Oregon. When you look at gross profit, you're seeing California and Oregon. When you look at all that SG&A, you're seeing California, Oregon, Halo tech, international, everything. Okay. Hence you have a loss because we're investing in international and tech businesses.  If you spin out international, boom, you get a NASDAQ company through what's known as an F Frank one listing, as opposed to an S, which is a Sam slash one listing for a US company. So now you have a NASDAQ company. Now let's say things with the Biden administration progress, safe harbor passes, then again, Halo being Oregon and California, and let's say by that time, maybe Washington or a few other states, which is a US focused business can then potentially list on NASDAQ. At that point, we would have to reverse split our stock like high tide is doing currently. Yes. Right. Yes. In order to go on NASDAQ. So that reverse split is for going on potentially having the ability to strike on NASDAQ. And as opposed to, and the reason we're doing two as opposed to one is because we may want to have to do it gently because say we're trading at 10 cents, you don't want to go to 10 cents to $5. Right. So that's a lot of investors. In trader terms, losing the, losing the bid. Someone said there's a lot of AP, but you know what's funny is look at our working capital, which is current assets minus current liabilities. That is a higher ratio than even the large MSOs are working capital. So if our AP is 8 million, I'm sure my inventory is 15 to 20 million. Right. So when I look at my adjusted inventory and everything, and the other thing people don't realize is that the marijuana business is a working capital intensive business. Yes. So you need to look at someone's balance sheet as much as you need to look at their income statement. Right. The balance sheet is critical. And that's where a lot of the value is in the balance sheet. And that's where the Canadian companies have really dropped the ball because they were unable to, they initially saved a lot of money, but then they just burnt through it. They just burned through it. So they weren't managing their vault properly. I guess assuming that the money was just going to come in and last forever, even though they were spending it at an alarming rate, and some of them are still, some of them still are. Can it be growth? So this is not a question anyone's asked me, but this is a question I want to answer that I keep getting asked. Yes. So the one thing about Halo now is we're set, meaning the deck is set. We're not looking at any one large acquisition. Right. Where we're going to print a lot of shares. We're looking at smaller deals, let's say 12 million and under where we just round out, right? Less than 10% of our market cap. So we need indoor grows in Oregon. We need more cultivation in Oregon. We're going to go get that, right? But they're smaller deals. Where we can, we're going to use debt because now we have predictable stable cash flow so we can use debt. So we're going to try to lever every part of our balance sheet. We're going to try to use preferred shares, as you suggested, because now we've grown up and we can do that. So you're not going to see what people were calling massive dilution, but that massive dilution also was a creative because we've gone, we've grown four times. You use your shares to acquire your growth, which is the reason why you're public in the first place. So I agree with the moves that you made. And unfortunately, short term for investors, they haven't seen that upside like we've seen with Trueleaf and Curieleaf, Grow Generation Corp in the US. We've seen some ridiculous upside with some of these companies. But what you're talking about, the creative value, the assets, the revenue growth has been tremendous because like I said, we've been talking for over a year. And I remember when you guys were just growing to a million a month, and now you're at 4 million a month, that's substantial growth. That's, you know, to put that in perspective, guys, that's going from making like 12 million a year a year later, you're making, and I know your guidance is 75 million this year. Well, that's a huge jump in revenue. I mean, if you've ever run a business, it isn't that easy to just grow a business from a million a month, which is a lot already, but let's say 12 million a year to 75 million a year, which is around 6 million a month. That's your guidance. That's 600% revenue growth. So that's impressive in itself. So to say, hey, you can't get to 10 million. When you've already proven that you can go from 1 million to 4 million, I think that that's just natural. That's your natural growth trajectory. Yep. Right. Based on the way you're growing, that's your natural growth trajectory. As long as you can keep the balance sheet safe and healthy, which you have been, and you can find a plan for the share structure, which you're clearly thinking about and talking about, I think your position to do extremely well. And I've seen a lot of companies that have gone to the NASDAQ that don't have a healthy balance sheet and they don't have anything close to your revenue.  And that's something that I focus on. Now there's a question in the, in the chat. Can you see this question that's on the screen? Yeah. Which one? Can you answer to that? Which one? I see what it means. The one that's at the bottom says, Kieran, is Cannot Health also going to do a sock buyback similar to Halo Tech, which spins off? What's the book value on CanMart and Bethelow? So it's not really the book value, but it's the market value. And we have bankers, or what they're known as bookrunners in England looking at that right now. But my view is the value of that is equal to or greater than the value of our current market cap today. And I believe our current market cap only reflects our results in Oregon and California. People really are giving the, so that's my, and then there's another one here, which is what risks may arise in the event of federal legalization. And what I have to say about that is Oregon, I would say the Emerald Triangle is the place to be when we federally legalize. Let's look at the companies from top to bottom that are there. Cookies, Cannot Health, right? No, Cannot Craft. Sorry about that. Connected, Triangle with us, then going up to Southern Oregon, ourselves, buddies. This big companies are based, Cura, and Cura has large operations in Oregon and in Northern California too. This is where, what Napa Valley is to wine, the Emerald Triangle is to marijuana. It is the Appalachian. It is where marijuana grows the best. It is the highest quality, lowest cost place to grow. I don't see people growing in upstate New York when we federally legalize. You will see a mad rush, especially into Oregon, because Oregon does not have huge cash, huge, how do I say it? Huge taxes, cultivation taxes, and alike that California has. It doesn't have bureaucracy. So the reason we first set up in Southern Oregon was we thought many moons ago before Trump was president, that's how long we've been around, that Southern Oregon would become the home base of cannabis in a federally legalized world. So federal legalization to us is something we would embrace. And that's what we've really positioned ourselves for by focusing where we have in the Emerald Triangle. Operations in Ukaia, Lake County, as well as Medford, Oregon, I drive among these areas all the time. It's five hours of driving back and forth through Humboldt and that whole area. And that is marijuana country. And right below us is Napa and Sonoma, which is wine country. So you touched on the legalization. And when Biden was going against Trump, that was one of his key focus points. I want to legalize cannabis. And obviously that will bring a lot of revenue to America. And with the amount of money that's being printed consistently to try to reopen and rebuild America, I think that would be good for the dollar and for all the inflation issues and to have some more money coming into the coffers. Where do you think that is right now? Because I haven't heard much about it. Is that happening? Do you hear anything? I believe a lot of people believe safe will pass. If safe passes, that's a game changer. Safe bank next. Yeah. And that's a big, that would be a big game changer. Huge. And as I'm sitting here wearing my hemp shirt, by the way, this is 100% hemp. You guys got to buy hemp, right?  My belief is that they've done a lot with hemp that just reminded me they've done. They've passed a lot of federal laws now that allow CBD and hemp and everyone else to, you know, every, you know, for those businesses to thrive. And soon I hope they'll do the same with marijuana.  But recently GTI, I saw the Viridian report, the GTI's cost of capital has gone down. We're seeing our cost of capital going down. Great. You know, and then a lot of people, you know, you said something that's interesting about True Relief and about Cura. And these guys have already done this. They've already zoomed. Explained. And I remember what I always say is buy low, sell high.  And I see only upside to the company personally, you know. Like I said, I look to buy more stock now that we've reported year, reported the quarter. You know, you know, I hope to buy more stock soon as well. You know, just got to get the money up to Canada somehow. You guys with this COVID lockdown up there is tough. It's crazy over here. It's the most craziest place ever. We have a lot of questions about where you guys are going to be in the next two to three years. Can you give us kind of a, you know, if we were to look through a crystal ball, what Halo's going to look like in two or three years? What would it look like? Well, the way I look at it is a sum of parts. So I would love to see Halo Tech sort of on its own, just trading itself at say 25 cents by itself. You know, right now, every shareholder would get like three cents of value. You know, we're putting a good management team in place there. They have visions of what they're wanting to do in what I call the non-280Pix and Axis area, like grow generation you were talking about and others, I believe they're a Pix and Axis type company, like Green Lane is, Green Lane Cushco. You know, that would be great. I would love to see the international business actually deliver a dollar to our existing shareholders. I think it's totally undervalued. I would love to see that. I'd love to see our core business be where we're at now, maybe nine cents. I'd love to see it at 50 cents. You know, people aren't, you don't invest in Halo and I'm not, I didn't find Halo, I didn't found Halo to double my money. I didn't put in, if you guys look historically between myself and my family, we've put in probably even through just even, I mean, geez, we've probably put in over the years five to 10 million US, right? Wow. Personally, right? And so I didn't put that money, I could have put that money into Apple. I could have put it into Facebook, you know, and done quite well. But you know, in this, in a company like Halo, you're not looking to double your money. You're not looking to triple your money. This is your, you know, this is your, this is your high alpha money. This is your 10 X money. You know, I love, I love that. I love that. And I say that to people. I was like, you know, so many investors nowadays, they want instant gratification. They buy a stock, they buy a cryptocurrency, they want instant gratification. If they don't make money tomorrow, they're out of the pick already. This is the new world we're in. Like everyone wants instant gratification. But everyone I know that is successful, including yourself, their long-term investors, all of them, their long-term investors, you know, people are right now being really difficult with Elon Musk, putting words in his mouth saying that he's selling this and selling that. And he keeps coming out saying, I haven't sold anything.  And that's how you become Elon Musk. You've got the same story. You got the same trajectory. You set it yourself. You're betting on yourself. You put in five to 10 million yourself into this project so that you can 10X. So guys, you can see what Kieran is saying without saying it. If you read between the lines, he wants to do extremely well with this project and he's not looking to sell at these prices. He's accumulating. He's buying. Right.  You know, all of us have put in money as directors and all of us have been putting in money. Someone talked about if this is really hemp, of course it's really hemp. It's 100% hemp. You know what's the good thing about hemp, by the way, and cannabis shirts and stuff, you can wear it for a couple of days and it won't stink. Don't tell anyone that, but I've only worn this for two days now, but it works well and I'm sort of in this deep sort of right now work mode, you know, just trying to rally the troops around the world. But you're right.  So today I'm saying I'm going a little bit more hemp. You know what, I really appreciate you coming on the show. We've been live for almost 50 minutes. Still got 90 people here listening to every single word. What do you want to tell to those investors? There's a huge community that's really building behind Halo Collective. What message do you want to deliver to the investors, the investment community, that's here watching right now? Well, we have a plan. We're executing the plan and it's a very, very clear plan. There are a lot of moving parts. There's some accelerations, there's some delays, but on whole, you know, we're a little ahead of where we thought we would be at this point and, you know, I was really surprised at the fact that, you know, looking at headset data and BDS data by any measure, you know, we're number one in the state of Oregon and Oregon is arguably the toughest state in the country, you know, to make money. Everyone's always said it's the lowest price state and we're throwing off operating profit contribution in the toughest state where no other, and that's where there, there's only curious, the only other MSO there through select. And I think they're in fourth position. But oh, I shouldn't have said that. Now they'll probably put a lot of money in and whack me around a little bit. But in any event, no, you know, we've done really, really well in Oregon and we have a really diverse bag. We're doing a similar strategy in California. We have a lot of growth in California. International skies the limit, you know, and we're going to look to make return that value to shareholders sooner rather than later.   And, you know, the team is growing and the fixed costs are stabilizing and the operating profit is rising and the margins are rising and the revenues rising. So it's all, you know, it's all good. There's a lot of upside there.  Yeah, no, we're really excited to have you on the show. Thank you for all your hard work and your dedication to this company, to your shareholders, the fact that you're even coming out here and answering all the questions and always willing to answer the questions. And one thing I can tell you guys, I've actually met Karen and he's exactly the same way in real life that he is in camera. So what you see is what you get. This is a man that's really committed to his work and to this company. So thank you for your commitment to what you do. Karen, you've done a great job. And like I said, I think you've done a great job of really building community because I see it. I see it when people are watching, people are on different groups talking about it. When I do a video and I get all the passion coming back from investors, hitting me up with question after question, you know, ask here and this, ask here and that. So there's a lot of sophisticated investors from all over the world that are in this stock, specifically in the three major markets in Canada, United States and Germany. So a lot of investors that are into this company that believe in you and you're doing a great job. Keep up the great work. And we'd love to invite you back here on Rich TV Live anytime you have any big news, breaking news, or you just want to have a discussion like we are today talking about some of the big updates that are happening. I hope to have some really big breaking news in the next two weeks. And so I'll come on when that happens. That would be great. I appreciate that. We love and then someone asked, someone asked something interesting is how, what is the longest I've ever worn a hemp shirt? I've worn one for four days, but then it gets to be like, it's really, it gets to be like cardboard. It doesn't stink, but it starts to feel like you're wearing cardboard after four days. So two days is about the right amount for hemp, if you want to know. Okay. All right. Thanks everybody. Take care. Thank you. Have yourself a great day, Kieran. Thank you so much for joining us. I know you're busy, man. And thank you guys for watching. If you're not waiting, you're not watching. This is your host, Rich from Rich TV Live. If you guys like the video, please smash the like button, comment them below, share the video everywhere and subscribe. And remember, Rich TV Live and Rich Picks Daily is strictly for information and education purposes. Do your due diligence, do your research before you invest in anything that we talk about here in Rich TV Live. 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