Hi everyone, this is Chichou. Welcome to another live stream. Today is January 15th 2023 and we're going to continue our reading of the coup d'etat, the assassination of JFK trading cards put out by Eclipse Comics in 1989. We've done two other live streams where we read cards 1 to 12 in one live stream, the first live stream, and we read cards 13 to 24 in the second live stream, which we did last week actually. So it's actually taken about a year for us to go through this thing and we're going to read through the rest of the cards, which cards number 25 to number 36 in this set as well. Finish it off. Now initially I had only bought this set. This is the original set that came out in 1990, I believe actually. It was 1990, 1991, 1990, where's the copy right on this? It came out in 1990. So it came out in 1990, this set. And then Oliver Stone put out his movie, JFK, and there was some additional information that was released, revealed, and Eclipse Comics, the people that put this card together, they came out and they released a revised edition based on some of the information that Oliver Stone shared in the JFK movie that he put out and the documents that they released at the time as well. So there's a revised edition that came out in, and the revised edition came out in, well this says 1990, but it's not. It's 1991, 1992, the revised edition. So 1990, first edition, Oliver Stone's JFK comes out in 1991. They go back and release a revised edition in 1992. Now what we did previously, I'm going to put the boxes here. What we did previously, the first 12 cards, we just had this set, so we read them. The next 12, we overlapped it with the revised edition to see what we knew. So we read all the way to card number 20, card number 24. And a couple of the cards, we ended up reading the revised edition because there's additional information out there. So I'm going to put these guys here. We're going to put the box here, sort of out of view of the camera. And I'm going to pull out all the way up to card number 24, and this as well. I'm going to put it in the revised box because I don't want to mix these guys up. Let's put this here. Let's put this here. Let's lay out these cards. Here's this guy. Let's lay out these cards. So there's 12 cards here I'm going to pull out. I'm going to read. And there's a layer of stuff out nicely. Okay gang. 1990, 1992. In the middle is Oliver Stone's JFK movie that came out in 1991. Revised edition, original edition. Let's bring them out. Let's bring them out. Card number 25, oil money that's focused. Oil money and beautiful artwork. Beautiful artwork. Absolutely phenomenal artwork. Oil money. Absolutely beautiful. Let's look at the text. And the artwork was, the artwork was done by legend, comic book legend, Bill Kowalski. I don't know how to pronounce that. My apologies to Bill. I'm horrendous with names and these names throw me off. So let's take a look at this. See if we can get this focused. Come on. Okay, let's see. There we go. So in 1963, there's a paragraph breaks. They ended up adding them in the revised edition. So upcoming trip, let's see if we can find, there's upcoming trip here. And then hours after this assassination, so it looks like the same paragraph begins. It goes to 1963, November 21st, 1963. So it doesn't look like anything's changed there. That's the same. Another son, another son. And then we have AYF board. The YF board and ends with that. So it looks like the revised edition is the same as the original edition. So we're going to read the original edition. Okay. So car number 25, oil money. And the title is the name is still the same as well. Okay. So car 25, Haroldson Latayet Hunt. In 1963, Dallas was a mecca for the ultra right and HL Hunt was their godfather. An oil billionaire, Hunt supported right wing causes, such as the John Birch Society, William F. Buckley's Young Americans for Freedom, YAF, Y-A-F, the political campaign of Senator Joseph McCarthy, and the tax exempt news organization, FACS Forum and Lifeline. On November 4th, 1963, Hunt's security chief and ex FBI agent wrote Hunt a memo on, quote, reports of possible violence and, quote, during Kennedy's upcoming trip. Hours after the assassination, the FBI told Hunt to go into hiding and for several weeks provided him with security. Years later, Hunt's personal aid alleged Hunt knew of the plot, having unwittingly influenced his right wing followers to conspire to kill Kennedy. He added that Hunt had sent him to check on Oswald's security in police custody. Though Hunt and Jack Ruby claimed not to know each other, a reliable witness alleged he and Ruby had won a considerable amount of money from Hunt in veterate gambler waging on football games. Among Ruby's effects was the phone number of H.L. Sun, Lamar Hunt, whose offices Ruby visited on November 21st, 1963. Another son, Nelson Bunker Hunt, sat on the board of the anti-communist international committee for the defense of Christian culture, led by a former Nazi, who, a Brewer agent, Nazi, a Brewer agent, and was a major backer of YAF. Bunker helped buy an ad placed by YAF's future executive secretary in the Dallas Morning News, the day of Kennedy's visit, portraying the president as a Kremlin dupe. Texas Senator John Tower, a YAF board member, personally interceded in 1962 with the immigration of naturalization and naturalization service in the case of Maria Oswald. Wow, and Marina Oswald was Oswald's wife. It was Oswald's wife. Right, we read in previous cards. Cool. I didn't know about this guy. I wonder if his, well for sure his sons are pretty much would still be in the game right now, or what this family is doing. Cool, cool. Let's put these in their respective boxes. Card number 26. The policeman's pimp. Oh, what's this about?  Is that what it implies? Ladies of the night? Prositus? Maybe. Beautiful artwork. Look at that. Just magnificent. The color scheme on it. The policeman's pimp. Let's take a look at the writing. Jack Ruby. This is Jack Ruby. Look at this. This is Jack Ruby. Jack Ruby. Let's look at the text. Let's look at the text. Let's make sure the text is, if it's different, we'll read them. So from his days, yeah, same. Ruby sellers, yeah. His pals, yeah. On June 7th, yeah. That's the same. Richard Nixon. What do we got? Richard Nixon, yeah. And it ends with conspiracy. Okay, cool. So the revised edition looks like it's the same as the original. So let's read card number 26. Policeman's pimp. Jack Ruby. From his days as Sparky Rubinstein, Aaron Boyd for Al Capone, to his ownership of a string of Dallas night clubs, where policemen got professional treatment. Ruby was, quote, one of our boys, end quote, according to the mobster Johnny Rossini, with whom Ruby met twice during the month prior to the assassination. Other gangster friends of Ruby's included Joe Sibalo, Dallas mafia chief, Barney Baker, teamster president Jimmy Hoffa's 375 pound bodyguard, and Dave Yaras, hitman for Chicago mob boss, Sam John Chana, John Sanna, known as the guy who could, quote, fix it, end quote, with the police. Ruby counted at least $100, Dallas cops among his pals. Ruby's self-professed idol was Louis J. McWilly, a professional gambler who worked at the mob-owned Tripeca Hotel in Havana. In 1959, Ruby visited McWilly, and the two met with crime boss Santonos Traficana, Cante Jr. Then in a Cuban prison, shortly after Ruby's return to Dallas, Traficante was released. The House Select Committee on Assassinations suspected Ruby, acting as a gangland courier, had bought Traficante's freedom during the six-month period that included his Havana trip. The FBI interviewed Ruby 8 times as a, quote, potential criminal informant, end quote. For Ruby, this was not a first. In 1947, while still in Chicago, he, quote, performed information functions, end quote, for the staff of then-Congressman Richard Nixon. We've got a Nixon connection. On June 7th, 1964, Ruby told the Warren Commission his life was in danger, in quotes. Gentlemen, he said, if we want to hear further testimony, you will have to get me to Washington soon. I want to tell the truth, and I can't tell it here, end quote. Before he died, he smuggled two letters out of prison, which hinted, darkly, that Lyndon Johnson was behind the conspiracy. Wow, wow, Nixon as well, eh? Art 26. Let's take a look at card number 27. Card number 27. The French connection. The French connection. Let's see if we can get this thing focused. Who is this guy? Mesmerizing, eh? Mesmerizing artwork. Jean Soutri. Jean Jean Soutri. Jean Soutri. Let's check this out. What do we got? After Kennedy's death, same text. Canada, Mexico or to Canada, okay. Wenjak Ruby, cool. And then William Harvey, we got at the bottom. Is Jean, yeah? Oh, a little bit of text difference there. Something, Jean. Oh, it changes a little bit. We're going to read the revised version, just because some wording might be more important. So this is the original version released in 1990. This is the revised version released after Oliver Stone's movie from 1991. This was released in 1992. So let's read card number 27. Jean Soutri. After Kennedy's death, French intelligence asked the FBI to help locate Jean Soutri, a French secret army organization, OAS, terrorists previously jailed for attempting to kill French President Charles de Gaulle. According to a CIA document dated April 1st, 1964, which surfaced in 1977, the French claim Soutri was in Dallas on November 22nd, 1963, and was expelled by US authorities 18 hours later. Concerned with security to the Gaulle's upcoming Mexican visit, they wanted to know whether he had been sent to Mexico or to Canada. When Jack Ruby was jailed for killing Lee Oswald, his lawyer asked him if he knew anyone who could damage his defense. Ruby mentioned Thomas L. Davis III, with whom he had run guns and jeeps to Cuba. In 1963, Davis, while on probation for bank robbery, obtained the US passport. By December, he was in Tangier's jail, charged with running guns to the OAS. According to the FBI, Macaron Moroccan authorities intercepted a letter from Davis that referred to Lee Oswald and the assassination. Davis was apparently released from jail through the efforts of a mysterious CIA agent, codenamed QJ Wynne. Described as a foreign national with mafia connections who was recruited for the ZR rifle team, a CIA assassination unit run by X FBI agent and Cuban ex-handler William Harvey. Something John Soutri was QJ Wynne in part because OAS terrorists were involved in heroin trafficking and in 1963, the main American distributor of French heroin was the lucky Luciano Syndicate, run by Meyer Lenski and Tampa mafia boss Santos Junior, formerly of Havana, who was William Harvey's partner in the CIA mafia plot to murder Fidel Castro. Wow, so many connections, crazy, crazy, the French connection always a cigarette in their hands. Card number 28, the mob, the mob. Let's check out the mob. Rossellini, Trefacanti, Giancana. Giancana, those faces with sunglasses. CIA mafia plots. Let's check it out. Let's see if the text is the same. So in the last month, yeah, mob. Okay, so there's a paragraph break. We're looking for, what are we looking for? The Kennedy brothers, mob members. I don't see that. Looks like these end differently. Yeah, looks like this was reworded. The revised edition looks to be majorly reworded relative to the original edition. Right? So we're going to read the revised edition again. Let's read the revised edition. Let's read the revised edition. The mob. There's going to be a lot of names in this that I'm not going to be able to pronounce. Card number 28, the CIA mafia plots. In the last month of the Eisenhower administration, secret meetings mediated by X FBI agent and Howard Hughes, a Robert Mahu, were held between CIA agents and mafia figures for the purpose of plotting to kill Fidel Castro. In 1960, the Cuban leader had nationalized U.S. corporate interests, closed casinos, shut down drug labs, and deported mob members. The Kennedy brothers did not know about the CIA mafia anti-Castro plots until 1962, when Robert Kennedy found the CIA interfering in Justice Department prosecution of the first mobster contacted by Mahu. Chicago boss Sam Giancana participation in CIA mafia plots wasn't Giancana's only protection against prosecution. His girlfriend, Judith Campbell, and President Kennedy had been lovers for two years. In 1963, the Justice Department ordered the FBI to curtail surveillance of Giancana. Judith Campbell, wow, who's that? The gangster with the most to gain from the elimination of Castro was Santos Traficante Jr., former mafia boss of Havana, who with his partner casino developer mob financial wizard, Meyer Lensky, had inherited the lucky Luciano's international heroin operation. Traficante financed terrorist raids against Cuba run by CIA agent Frank Sturgis. Sturgis' Miami based international anti-communist brigade. In 1962, Traficante told Cuban exile and FBI informant Jose Alman, quote, Kennedy is in trouble and he will get what is coming to him. Kennedy is not going to make it to the election. He's going to be hit, end quote. West Coast mobster Johnny Rossellini, another CIA mafia plotter, later alleged Castro was warned of plans to kill him by a double agent, possibly Traficante, and that Castro, assuming the plots were official US policy, killed Kennedy in retaliation. That part we know is not true. And who was claiming this? West Coast mobster, another CIA mafia, later alleged, yeah, West Coast mobster alleged. Crazy, crazy. The mob, the mob, the mob, which is really CIA mafia, right? CIA mafia. Card number 29. Oh, this is Robert Kennedy. This was sad. Future targets, or future target, the brains, the brains. I'm pretty sure this is who it is. Yeah, Robert Kennedy. Many people say Robert Kennedy was the brains behind John Kennedy, right? Man, I would pay an arm in a leg to have this portrait the original. Oh, my God, what beauty. Look at this, look at this. Absolutely amazing depth of this painting. Got a feeling this might have been revised a lot. Let's check it out. And when we got security risk, security risk, although Robert Kennedy will got that thing going there.  While Robert, yeah. And then Robert left this post four years later. Let's check it out. Robert left this post four years later. There's a paragraph break right there. It looks like it's about the same. It is the same. So we're going to read the original. Card number 29. When Robert Kennedy became Attorney General 1961, he found FBI Chief J Edgar Hoover, uncooperative with his anti-crime campaign. So he formed his own intelligence unit, initiating massive illegal wiretap operations against James Hoffa, Carlos Mancillo, and other mobsters and political enemies, such as the State Department Security Evaluator Auto Ateca, who had rejected several Kennedy appointments as security risks. Although Robert Kennedy had once worked for Senator John McCarthy on Ateca, assisted the McCarthy-inspired Senate Subcommittee of Internal Security. In mid-1963, Ateca was suddenly moved to a less sensitive post, and his safe was drilled open. Inside was found a study on American defectors to the USSR, including Lee Halvey Oswald, on whom Ateca had failed to issue a State Department Lookout card. While Robert may have suspected conspiracy in his brother's death, he never publicly challenged the FBI's findings. Meanwhile, Hoover removed his private phone link to the Attorney General and did not speak to him for the next six months, after which Robert left his post. Four years later, on the verge of capturing the Democratic nomination for the 1968 presidential race, Robert was killed by another alleged lone nut, Sirhan Sirhan. He may have taken to his grave the secret of his brother's missing brain, which was removed along with photos of 119 slides of tissue section from the autopsy materials before 1967, probably on orders from Robert himself, according to the H.S.C.A. Did he take this evidence into safekeeping because he intended, once he became president, to reveal a conspiracy cover-up? Oh, good question, good question, good question, good question. Card number 30.   Let's take a look. John Kennedy affair. We got John and Marilyn right there. Paragraph ends, interested parties, and then John and Marilyn. Oh, it looks like this paragraph ends differently. Look at that. And the last paragraph seems to be the same, but the middle paragraph ends differently. So we're going to read the revised version again. We're going to read the revised version. This is an important card. Card number 30. Marilyn Monroe. John Kennedy's affair with CIA agent. Court Meyers wife. Mary led him to experiment with marijuana and LSD, but the most famous of the 32 presidential paramours tallied by J. Edgar Hoover was actress Marilyn Monroe, who was also the lover of Robert Kennedy. Her August 5th, 1962 death ruled suicide was linked to these dangerous liaisons, which had been observed by several interested parties. That paragraph is insane. Let's read that again. Card number 30. Marilyn Monroe. John Kennedy's affair with CIA agent. Court Meyers wife. Mary led him to experiment with marijuana and LSD, but the most famous of the 32 presidential paramours tallied by J. Edgar Hoover was actress Marilyn Monroe, who was also the lover of Robert Kennedy. Her August 5th, 1962 death ruled suicide was linked to these dangerous liaisons, which had been observed by several interested parties. John and Marilyn often met in the home of the presidential president's brother-in-law, Peter Loughard, whose house had been wired during the 1960 campaign by GOP consultants. Monroe's home was bought for wireman Bernard Spindle, whose usual employer was Jamie Hoffa. The Monroe tapes haven't been made public, but according to many accounts, they contain intimacies with the Kennedys, pro-Castro arguments, and support for ousting J. Edgar Hoover. Most significantly, they recorded a visit from Robert on the day of Monroe's death, during which the pair argued immediately. She felt she had been used and dumped by both Kennedys. Knowledge of this last visit would have been a powerful blackmail tool against Robert. One person who acquired leverage as a result of the tragedy was Hoover, who immediately confiscated Monroe's phone records on Robert's orders. Hoover was hardly a disinterested party. He considered Monroe a security risk and had watched her for years because of her friendship with a communist. Her volumnious FBI files are mostly classified, but it is said they record sex orgies attended by John Robert, L.A. police chief William Parker, and various women, and state she was pregnant by Robert and had had an abortion before she died. An elder god has a definition for us. Palammers, a lover, especially the illicit partner of a married person. Maryland Monroe, would you like to be a fly on the wall? Card number 31. Card number 31. Among the missing. What is this about? Among the missing. Giant stadium. Number 82. Not sure what that signifies. And then there's 70 in the background. Among the missing. James Hoffa. James Hoffa. Let's check this out. Let's check this out. Let's see what the text is like. So Robert Kennedy, that's legit, starts off the same. We got after the assassination. We got after the assassination. Has got to go. Yeah, same. Under Hoffa. Yeah, partner, same. What do we got? Locke became Lyndon. Locke became Lyndon Johnson. Yeah, ends with the same. Yeah, the text looks to be the same. Okay, so we're going to read the original version. James Hoffa. Wow, wow, wow. Card number 31. Robert Kennedy had pursued team stir president Jimmy Hoffa since the 1950s when he served as chief counsel for the Senate McClellan Committee, which exposed the role of organized crime and labor unions. On becoming attorney general in 1961, Robert turned up the heat. And over the next few years, his quote, get Hoffa squad, end quote, brought multiple indictments in indictments, indictments against team stir officials, indictments, it should be. Against team stir officials. By 1962, the pressure was intense.  Bobby Kennedy has got to go end quote. After the assassination, Hoffa told the reporter quote, Bobby Kennedy is just another lawyer now, end quote. But despite his bravado, he was convicted of jury tampering in 1964, and sent to prison, where he remained until 1971, when President Nixon pardoned him. Wow. Under Hoffa, the team stir Central States Pension Fund, SCC SPF was managed by Chicago gangster Alan Dormann, who made low interest loans involving kickbacks to Las Vegas casino developers. Some CSPF loans were political. In 1963, 25 million was lent to the firm of Web and Nap financiers behind the Great Southwest Corporation, a shady Texas land deal backed by the Merchantson family and controlled by their lawyer, Bedford Wayne. With this loan, Web and Nap bought 625,000 shares of overvalued real estate stock from a company run by Texas Democratic Party Chairman Eugene Locke, in whose official offices the fateful Dallas motorcade route was planned. Oh my God. Locke became Lyndon Johnson's ambassador to Vietnam in 1967-68. Web and Nap went bankrupt in 1965. Hoffa vanished in 1975, and rumors persist that the mob killed him and buried his bodies in New Jersey's Meadowsland stadium. Wow. That's why. That's why. That's why we got the giant stadium. That's why we got the giant stadium. Among the missing, touchdown is Hoffa buried right there. Is that what it is? Do I have my stadium at the right place in New Jersey? Is that where they play? New Jersey's Meadowsland stadium? Is that it? Wow. Card number 32. Card number 32. Mafia Kingfish. Who is this? Mafia Kingfish. Trippy portrait. Trippy portrait. Carlos Marcello. Carlos Marcello. Oh yeah. Let's check out the text. Let's see if the same. Let's check out the text. New Orleans mafia. Yeah. You got $1,600 a month. Yeah. In 1961. Okay. What have we got? Lee Oswald. Lee Oswald. That's fun. Lee Oswald and then kill the president. Kill the president. Where are we? Kill the president? This one says but Oswald would have been poor. So that looks to be the same. Marcello, 1964. Okay. We're going to read the original because it's the same. It's just though one word's changed but instead of Lee Oswald would have been poor. You know what? Let's read the revised version of this one. Okay. Let's read the revised version. Mafia Kingfish. Card number 32. Carlos Marcello. New Orleans mafia don. Carlos Marcello born Calo Giro Menocor was a protege of New York mob boss Frank Castello. In 1963, Marcello ran a multi-million dollar crime empire spread over several states. Yet New Orleans FBI agent Regis Kennedy stated he was a tomato salesman who earned $1,600 a month.  In 1961, Attorney General Robert Kennedy, aware that Marcello, Marcello, held only a questionable Guatemalan passport had him abducted, flown to Guatemala City, an unceremoniously dumped. After sneaking back to the U.S. via Miami, Marcello was heard making threats against Robert Kennedy.  He's going to be taken care of, end quote. He also reportedly spoke of using a nut in quotes, someone who couldn't be traced back to him to kill the president. Lee Oswald would have been a poor, untraceable nut in quotes for Marcello to use because his uncle and surrogate father, Dots Moret, was a bookie for Marcello Lieutenant Nofio Pecorra. Furthermore, Oswald's associate, David Ferry, had helped plan legal strategy for Marcello's deportation hearings and was with him in court the morning of the assassination. Marcello also had strong ties to Jack Ruby's friend, Dallas Mafia Chief Joe Civello. Marcello's operations benefited greatly from the largest of Mafia's Teamster pension funds in 1965 to 67 with help from lobbyist Irving Davidson and $1 million donated by his mob friend. Marcello spearheaded the quote, save about that end quote movement, later to become the Spring Hoffa in quote movement, currently serving time for wire and mail fraud and reportedly suffering from Alzheimer's disease. He is due to be released in 1994. He's long gone. Long gone. Mafia Kingfish. Carlos Marcello. Card number 33. The Arranger. Look at this. The Arranger. Who is this guy? Who is this guy? This guy's face doesn't ring a bell to me. Eye Irving Davidson. Eye Irving Davidson. Let's check out the Thai Irving Davidson. Registered. Yeah, it starts the same. First paragraph is the same. Through Hoffa, same. West Corporation, same. Clint, yeah, same. Okay, they look to be the same. So let's read card number 33. Eye Irving Davidson. I registered Washington lobbyists for the Teamsters and a friend of Jimmy Hoffa. Eye Irving Davidson had a vast international network of powerful connections and called himself, quote, degrees for the machinery, end quote. His business card read, quote, Door Opener and Arranger, end quote, what a great title for a business card. Door Opener and Arranger. Among his seemingly diverse clients were the CIA, Coca-Cola, Fidel Castro, the family dictatorships of Nicaragua, the Somozas, the Dominican Republic, the true Helos and Haiti, the Duvaliers, the oil rich, more Merchantson family of Dallas, and Mafioso Carlos Marchello. The close 20-year relationship between Davidson and Marchello ended in 1981 when the two were indicted in the wire and mail fraud case that finally snared Marchello. Davidson's acquittal and the fact that he had introduced Marchello to the government sting operator who caught them suggests that he set up his mafia friend. Through Hoffa, Davidson arranged the Teamster Pension Fund loan for the Merchantsons who shared with Davidson a close mutual friend, J. Edgar Hoover. Davidson arranged another deal for the Merchantsons that resulted in a large, large payoff to then Senator Lyndon Johnson's close aide and bagman, Bobby Baker. Part of Baker Johnson set was Bedford Wayne, whose law firm represented George the Merchantsons and controlled the Great Southwest Corporation. Clint Merchantson, senior, liked to gamble and frequented the Ford Deuces Club where he played high stakes poker with fellow gambler like H. L. Hunt, Sam Rayburn, and Lyndon Johnson. The club's owner, W. C. Kirkwood, a man with unquestionable access to Johnson, was a friend and former employer of Jack Ruby's idol, Louis J. McWillie. Just insane. Look at that smile. The arranger. Look at that smile. Arranges everything. Look at that. That's dark. The arranger. We know who this is. This is Hoover. Gotta be Hoover. J. Edgar Hoover. Look at that face. What a vile creature. The untouchable. Literally the untouchable. The untouchable. I know a little bit about the history of this guy. A vile creature. This portrait. What an absolutely brilliant, brilliant portrait. Captures what this monster represented. Just look at him. Sheryl's commenting. Would have loved to have a hint of a shoulder strap showing with this. Yeah. He was a cross dresser. I think that's what Sheryl was referring to. What a portrait. Let's check out the text. Let's check out the text. FBI. FBI. Hoover. Looks the same. More power around more. Yep. Yeah. Marylandsky. Yeah. Looks the same. Private. Yep. Jim Rowley. The true nature of FBI. Yeah. And it ends the same. We're going to read the original. Let's read the original. Card number 34. J. Edgar Hoover. FBI director J. Edgar Hoover hated the Kennedys and refused to cooperate with their crackdown of organized crime because according to him, organized crime didn't exist. Yet he spent his vacations gambling at Del Mar racetrack and relaxing at the Del Charo Motel notorious hangouts for top level mobsters and both owned by his pals, the Texas Merchants and his off and he often met privately with Mafia Prime Minister Frank Castello and has been alleged that Hoover had a secret hit squad of mob assassins recruited with Castello's help. The day after Kennedy died, the FBI taped gangster Charlie Ingalls telling his boss Sam Jacan Khanna quote two months from now, the FBI will be like it was five years ago. They won't be around no more and quote Hoover's power resided in his confidential files during the Warren commission investigation. For instance, he collected derogatory materials on commissioner members and their staff. He also investigated the sex lives of prominent people particularly homosexuals but ironically, it is rumored that Hoover's own alleged homosexuality may have subjected him to blackmail by gangster Meyer Lansky. Private corporations, government and media were infiltrated by ex-FBI agents who while no longer on the payroll remain loyal to Hoover. This may shed light on the true roles of ex-FBI agents like Guy Bannister, William Harvey, Robert Mahu, Jim Garrison and Secret Service Chief James Rowley. The true nature of FBI links to Lee Oswald and Jack Ruby have never been revealed but they certainly were ties between the FBI and both men and by controlling the investigation, Hoover was in a position to obscure the trail of the assassins. Just imagine what the United States would have looked like now in 2023 if Hoover was not in charge for the amount of time that he was and if he was actually investigated and prosecuted for his crimes. What a different world we would be living in right now. What a monster. What a monster. Card number 35. Card number 35. Ballots and bullets. Ballots and bullets. Simple. Want to guess who that is? Want to guess who that is? I got a feeling that's Nixon. Is it Nixon or is it Lyndon Johnson? Lyndon Johnson. I thought they might bring in Nixon at some point. Lyndon Johnson. And if I recall correctly he was sworn in on a plane. Right? With Jackie beside him with a little winking going on. Was it on a plane? Brilliant that is. Look at that. Let's look at the text. Let's look at the text. Let's see what we got. Lyndon Johnson. Lyndon Johnson. Paragraphs and same ballads. The two scandals. Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. Legislator. Yeah. Let's see. There's a paragraph break here. CIA. I think that paragraph within hours. Okay. This last paragraph seems a little different. Ends the same but I think they're a little different. We're going to read the revised version gang. Let's read the revised version. Important. Card number 35. Lyndon Johnson. Lyndon Johnson's political career was mired with corruption. In 1948, he got a local official to certify 200 fake ballots, literally stealing the election to become US senator by 87 votes. In 1949, a TV newsman investigating Texas vote fraud was killed. In 1952, his assassin was found hanging in his jail cell after he offered to reveal the location of the missing fraudulent ballots. Two scandals rocked Johnson's vice president presidency. First was his link with Texas Wheeler dealer, Billy Soul Estate, who collected millions in federal agriculture subsidies for non-existent cotton farms. In 1985, a state testified that Johnson had ordered the death of Henry Marshall, who had been investigating the scam. Then came the exposure of ties between Johnson, a Bobby Baker and Irving Davidson, the Merchantsons, the Teamsters, and Carlos Marcello. It was alleged that during the 1950s, Johnson received $500,000 in cash from Marcello's racing wire and slot machine profits in return for killing anti-racketeering legislation. Johnson's longtime mistress, Madeline Brown, claimed he told her Kennedy's death was, quote, ordered by American oil men and the CIA, end quote, and he knew of it in advance. His abrupt reversal of Kennedy's plan to bring Americans back from Vietnam has fueled speculation about his complicity in the CIA military intelligence plot. Within hours of becoming president, Johnson made Texas officials halt their inquiries and turn all evidence over to the FBI. As if to return the favor, J. Edgar Hoover promptly stopped FBI participation in Attorney General Kennedy's probe of Baker's mob ties. In January 1964, Johnson made Hoover FBI director for life. Later, his executive order, 1162, locked all assassination evidence in the National Archives until the year 2039.  Dead witnesses, indeed. Dead witnesses. This has got to be different than the original. Maybe. Let's see what we got. Let's see what we got. In the first three, in the first three is the same chronologically, yeah, 64. Oh, maybe it's the same. Look at this one. This is the revised edition. So the last card in this set is very much damaged. But it looks like to be the same. So we're going to read the original. Okay, so this one's damaged in the revised edition. So card number 36, dead witnesses. In the first three years following the assassination, 13 material witnesses died of unnatural causes. Other suspicious deaths occurred during both the Garrison trial in the late 1960s and the congressional investigation of the mid 1970s. In all more than 40 witnesses have died mysteriously, many because they knew too much. These include chronologically, these are the names, look at this, chronologically. Attribute to those that knew. 664, Guy Barrister, apparent heart attack. His files were gone by the time authorities arrived. 964, C.D. Jackson, unknown causes. Life magazine publisher and longtime CIA propagandist. He purchased and suppressed the, oh, Zapruda film. 165, Dorothy Kilgallan, drug overdose. The colonist had promised after meeting with Jack Ruby to break open the Kennedy case. 167, Jack Ruby, cancer just before his appeal was to begin. He told family members he had been injected with cancer cells. 267, David Ferry, unspecified natural causes in quotation marks. Within hours, his Cuban ex-off friend, Eladio del Val, was shot through the heart and his head split open. 973, Thomas E. Davis III, electrocuted while stealing, stealing wire from a warehouse. 874, Clay Shaw, possible cancer, no, no autopsy performed. 61975, Sam Giancana, shot once in the back of the head and six times in a circle around his mouth while under police protection. What the? 775, James Hoffa, vanished on his way to meet Anthony Provenzano, a mob-connected teamster official. 776, Johnny Rossili, garoted, stabbed, dismembered and found floating in an oil drum off the coast of Florida after agreeing to testify to the Senate. 377, George the red shit, gunshot, shot wound through the mouth, ruled suicide on the day he was called to arrange an interview with the H.S.C.A. Dead Witnesses. Gang, that's the JFK trading cards. Kuteta, the assassination of JFK, original version, 1990, revised version, 1990. I hope they blew you away as much as they did me. Wow, wow, wow. Just one little commentary I'll just put out. Just from these cards alone, the rot in U.S. politics has been there for decades. It is not recent, it has been there for decades, which is why, why we have needed accountability and transparency of capital as power, which is why, why we should work towards freeing Julian Assange, because he's a publisher journalist that has been crucified for trying to bring transparency and accountability of capital as power to humanity, something that we have desperately needed in our societies for decades upon decades upon decades. For more information, see wikilees.org, defend.wikilees.org, or our Julian Assange and Wikilees playlist on censored.


And we are back with another interview at the 6th annual Mustang Gala. As again, my name is Cameron Summers and I'm here with Keegan Caffrey. Keegan, what do you think is one moment in your athletic career that pretty much focused in on you getting this award tonight? Oh, well I've been here for five years, so I think getting to come back was a great opportunity and I was able to fulfill a lot of accomplishments that I wanted to and I ultimately got to break the record for most saves so I think that just kind of solidifies my experience here and all the hard work that I put into. Okay, okay, and looking back on your five years, what was your most memorable moment if you could pick one? I think all the way back to my freshman year, my first year here we beat Johns Hopkins and they were ranked eighth in the nation so that was pretty cool but every year has always had something special because the people you're with, they kind of make it the best part about the sport. Okay, okay, and any words of encouragement to your fellow nominees tonight? Just best of luck, we all deserve it and I'm happy that everyone gets the acknowledgement that they deserve. Okay, alright, well thank you for the interview, thank you for your time. Thank you. Good luck tonight. Thank you.


So one of the problems that we run into a lot when we're dealing with functions is this thing known as scope of our variables. The entire purpose of scope is that basically, if we created a variable inside of a function, say for example, j, j only exists in our case method. One. That's the only place it's going to exist. Let's take a look at that distance function we developed again. So if we take a look at that, I've got three variables I'm working with. x, y, and dist. Now like I mentioned, if I pretty much run that code and I don't have that return statement, x, y, dist, they don't exist anymore. Just to show that off again, dist doesn't exist. Even if I, oh you're saying it's because I haven't called distance before. Well, boom, okay, well then dist is, no I don't have dist. Dist only existed for that brief moment in time where I needed to do a calculation and now it's gone. So what happens if say for example, I start to design out more complex equations? What if I wanted to define whether or not something was within a circle? Alright, well, in a circle. I only know sort of a single point, so an x and a y. Is this within a circle of a specific radius? Assuming the radius starts from 0, 0. Well, my distance, dist is going to equal distance from x, y, 0, 0, 0, 0 being the origin, for example. And I know my radius. Well, in my case, return whether or not dist is less than radius. Just on that note, this dist right here is not the same as this dist. This is where scope kind of gets a little fun and confusing for some people. This variable is not the same as this variable whatsoever. I run this and I say in a circle is 5, 5 in the circle that is a radius 10. True, but I don't have to say distance. I could say any variable. As long as I make a reference, I'm going to leave that as dist there. We run our code. Yes. Again, you see the error. Dist doesn't exist. Dist only exists here. It doesn't exist in circle. Circle is a completely different method entirely from distance. So now with this scope, can I sort of establish where variable exists, where it belongs, and kind of its life cycle?


Around Dodge City and in the territory on West there's just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers And that's with a US Marshal and the smell of guns smoke Starring William Conrad the story of the violence that moved West with young America and the story of a man who moved with it I'm that man Matt Dillon the United States Marshal The first man they look for and the last they want to meet It's a chance a job and it makes a man watchful And a little lonely Seven is a significant number for a variety of reasons one highly entertaining reason We'd like to remind you of is the magic number of top daytime dramatic serials only the CBS radio network Send your way each Monday through Friday No less than seven of America's long-time favorite dramas Comedy abounds with the couple next door and drama with the light touch on the second Mrs. Burton Other top CBS radio dramas enjoyed by millions include the romance of Helen Trent Whispering streets and the right to happiness Hours of absorbing entertainment every weekday come from these top dramas presented exclusively by CBS radio and brought to you as an important part of the different sound of this station The house fetch me there boy, can that right now? Can you make it on your feet? You'd rather I'd carry you Paul. I can walk Tell me Paul Who done this to you? Just get me the bed boy. You know who done it You seen him before I Know him Tell me his name Paul No, you're doing sure this sure. I'll go after him. No You view it going no place. Well, then there's the law Paul It ain't right for him to go all free. Oh, leave it be boy. I Never had no need for the law But Paul I should leave it be Go ahead Open the door for me Walk in by myself Son, what can I do for you? I Come see the marshal you come to the right place. I Don't see him here. Of course. You don't see him cuz he ain't here He coming back sure he's coming back And we'll have to wait for him. All right, son Have a seat Thanks might be that I could help you Maybe in the marshal's assistant you might say oh wait Sure, I just thought I might maybe could save us some time before he got I said I wanted to see the marshal All right, son. All right. Ain't no call me to huff you about it. All right.  It ain't exactly trouble But this young fella is mighty all fired serious about seeing you I I couldn't do nothing for him at all. Is that some You want to see me son? Yeah marshal Yeah, I sure do. Oh, what's your name? Jess Burris Burris. Are you Luke's son? Yes, sir? I am. Oh, what can I do for you? I? Want you to arrest the man that beat my paw You can do that catch a marshal Dylan. Are you better tell me more about it?  Did he tell you who did it? No, sir. No, he wouldn't But I know right enough It was smid moly. What if your paw wouldn't tell you? How do you know? I've been asking questions See paw had some bad dealings with smid marshal He's seen him here in Dodge yesterday morning and called him down good He called him a cheat and a liar and a horse thief Oh, paw can give it to you good when he's up in mind. That's right, mr. Dylan It happened right out there on front street. I'll use over in Hayes City Mr. Burris really give it to him good. All right, and smid got himself liquored up and come out to our place and beat up Paul You might have died marshal. Yeah, I'm sorry to hear it Jess Your father's a good man You can arrest smid can't you marshal Dylan? Well, yes, I can arrest him if if you're paul swear that he's a man He ain't gonna do that marshal. Why not? Is he afraid? Paul ain't afraid of nothing That's most of the trouble. How's that? Well, he ain't never needed to call on nobody for help. He don't figure to start now He's roots stubborn. Oh There's not much I can do to change that maybe not marshal But maybe you could stop a killing You figure that this isn't the last of it time. No No, it's your ain't the last of it unless you lock smid moly up for a while. All right, Jess I'll go talk to your pa Matt Dylan I'd like to talk to you Back here sorry to see you laid up Luke You demand What are you doing out this way?  I need you as a witness Luke as soon as you're able to travel Witness for what witness against smid moly? I told the boy to leave it be just as trying to protect you Luke and see that there's no more trouble I don't need no help Ain't never needed no help. Looks like you might have used some yesterday He jumped me when I wasn't ready for him But I can handle him only marshal if you worry about that you let me lock him up, and he won't have to the law I don't know and come out here before the law marshal Maybe but times have changed not for me.  All right. All right, you handle it. They may come a time when I'll have to move in I ain't never needed the law yet. You better. Hope you won't be needing it from now on But I'm thanks Well, the law business must be pretty good. Oh, how's that? You're usually in here early isn't it? Yeah, no, it's not that business is good. I can tell you that I don't like kidding. I'm having a hard time selling the law What do you mean? Oh man Burris? He got beat half to death yesterday And he won't let me haul in the fellow that did it mad molly. Yeah How did you know Everybody knows He's been here at the bar all day bragging about it. How the old man got uppity with him and how he fixed it Yeah, he's still here down at the far end there Yeah, I see him. I Guess I better have a talk Ain't nobody gonna talk about a horse whip and smet molly Well Marshall yeah I'll talk to you. All right. You go right ahead and Marshall you go right ahead. Ain't nothing you can do to me I don't count on it I know ain't nothing you can do Marshall. I seen the boy What boy? Luke's boy Marshall Big fella like him nearly the crime You take the beating him too like it does the old man.  Well, that's lucky for you We got us a big marshal out here and he can't do nothing.  Well, that's the old man's business. Yeah. Yeah, I know and I'll tell you something If you ever go out there again, he means to take care of it. Well, I ain't worried you should be Because if the old man doesn't handle you I will um Well, Marsha, you can yes molly. I can But if you're smart, you won't make me prove it Just coming out here no more see me. I got business here. What do you want? I want to see your old man You've seen him enough That's where I figured it to I figured I've seen him enough, but I've been hearing different What do you mean? Been hearing from folks around town your pa been talking unkindly about me Downright unkindly. How'd you expect him to talk? I figured I closed his mouth some other day boy Pine afraid of you. No, no, I guess he ain't yet And guess I got to show him some more eating you ain't going after him again.  All right, boy seeing you got the drop I'll just ride off You shouldn't have threatened me boy You Guess what's happened Murder and even Shot my boy and rode away next time I see him. I'll kill him. Sure Yes Yes, sir.   I'll get you to the dog He'll fix you up in no time. Don't you prep none? I'll go and fetch the way Nice and mr. Dillon just setting out here walking the world go by Of course ain't much of the world going by I gotta admit that I Ain't saw more than three or four wagons in a buggy or two since been sitting here That's funny. Chester seems to me. You've been sitting here most of the morning I've had to step over you every time I went in or out of the office. Oh Well, I may doze off once or twice.  So it's be ready in case something happened It looks like it might be going to happen right now. Oh, what do you mean? That's all Luke Burr is driving that wagon That's how I guess he is He must be feeling better. He may be but there's somebody in the wagon bed who isn't feeling You're right miss.  He's got there. Yeah, come on. Let's give him a hat You can't do many harm now. He's only got a few minutes Marshall at this time. I can't Can I speak to the boys duck? Be easy man. Yeah, who did it? You don't have to talk to him. Yes, I Can get him if you tell me just I can lock him up this time. Yeah lock him up Now you tell me his name.  Yes, and we don't have to tell him nothing What time oh Marshall yeah, just Smet moley again Hey You get in the car. Yeah, I'll get him Yes, he's gone man. I'm sorry Luke. I did the best I could I Seen you try to save him doc. I think you I Still ain't got nothing to say to you Marshall. I Could have asked it should let him die in peace. I'm sorry you feel that way Luke But I had to step in this is murder I gotta get into this now whether you want me to and not I can't stop you Marshall now No, you can't stop me and I'll tell you something. What's that? Nothing is changed. I Can't stop you from coming into this thing, but we don't need you Marshall Jess and me We don't need you anymore and we ever did We can take care of our own I've been kindly hankering to go back to Texas for some time now, but this sure ain't the way I'd like to make trips Trailing a man for a day and a night can sure where a fella dying that right mr. Jones Wouldn't be so bad if a body didn't have to keep his eyes so open every minute Yeah, I know that's particularly hard on you children Well, you got to keep looking out for so many things if you don't get to enjoy the scene You're not missing much in this party I kind of like it out here so nice Flat and hot and dry Well sure, but you can just see you forever. You got it bit that mr. Jones. Yeah, you're right I gotta admit that there's nothing in the way there you see that's what I mean How long you reckon it'll take us to catch that smell mulling mr. Jones. I don't know I mean I catch him at all. Oh my gracious me. We'll catch him. All right. You said yourself the trailer was nice and clear It can be yeah, it's too clear What do you mean by that? Why not the only ones following us? You mean there's somebody else at rail with him? Yeah, he's got about a half a day to start I think it's that old meek burst. Yeah, I'm afraid of this He just ain't got good sense to keep on with a thing like this. Does he? Allie thinks he's right Chester. It's awful hard to talk sense to a person who thinks he's right Spose your eyes that what kind of mr. Jones? Didn't like it the shack stuck way out here. Yeah Let's head for it. Yes. I am You don't need your guns both of us making this trip. I told you Luke when it's murder. It's my business Yeah, there ain't no need. I will see I Already see What do you mean?  I got no need for the law.  Yeah, she's son up All right Chester you better start digging. We'll have to bury him You should listen to me Marshall I meant it when I said we took care of our own that we had no need for the law to do it. Yeah Now the law has to take care of you and that don't matter now My boy is dead and I took care of the man that killed him. I took care of it Marshall like we're always done Without no law. Yeah, you did that. All right Your boy wouldn't have had to die at all if you'd let me move in in the first place All right, come on Luke. You can help Chester dig the grave Like you help dig the grave for Jess Produced and directed in Hollywood by Norman McDonald start William Conrad as Matt Dillon US Marshall The story was specially written for Gunsmoke by Marion Clark with editorial supervision by John Meston Featured in the cast were Ralph Moody, Dick Trenna and Lauren Stubbkin Barley Bear is Chester Howard McNear is Doc and Georgia Hawkins is Kitty. This is the CBS radio network


in the home stretch here on Talking Tax with Tom Yamachika of the Tax Foundation of Hawaii. I'm Jay Fidel. This is ThinkTek on a given Thursday. Welcome to the show, Tom. Thank you, Jay. I'm glad to be here. We've got two days left in our, including today, in our legislative session. And then they'll go, sink oil and they'll go home for another year. And in the meantime, we have a bunch of bills affecting tax and public finance that have got transmitted. That have been transmitted to the third to the fifth floor of the capital where our esteemed Governor David E. Gay can decide the fate of some are all of these bills. Okay. So what, you know, I mean people have said, and I've asked a number of people, what do they think of this session. Everybody has had, you know, glorious compliments about it. And there's a whole range of opinion, but most of it is not all that complimentary. How, how would you classify their work this year, this session on tax. You know, I'm, I actually have a rule zero look that maybe some people do with, you know, the, the kind and quality of bills that I got introduced. I was expecting something a lot worse. There were a lot of terrible bills that could have been enacted and have and would have made it, you know, much tougher for taxpayers, including some administrative changes that the department itself abandoned at the last minute. And we have some taxpayer taxpayer favorable visions. Some of them are going to be very consequential. And we'll get into those. The one thing is, you know, I always, I'm always interested when people say, oh, that was a terrible bill. And that bill, you know, shouldn't have gotten in the hopper at all. And everyone knew that it was a bad bill. And yet we have legislators out there who introduced these bills and put their signature on these bills. And you're probably going to tell me, well, you know, it's a political, political phenomenon. And somebody comes to them, whether it's a constituent or a lobbyist or who knows who, and says, hey, you got to introduce this bill, my favorite pet bill. And they do because they feel that somehow their office obligates them to do that. But wouldn't it be a better thing if they put their judgment, their thinking cap on for a minute and say, hey, this is a terrible bill. I'm not going to introduce this. Hit somebody else. Why, why can't we change the culture. Well, like you said, it's politically infeasible to tell the constituent. This is a terrible bill you schmuck.   So I really did a number on that bill and I was not wasn't had to do that. You agree with me it would be better more efficient, more honest to say to the constituent now I'm sorry. That doesn't meet my standard. That's not what I'm here for. I think you rarely you'll have something like that where where a legislator is is both, you know, sufficiently informed and and has enough of a moral compass to to make that determination and then has the courage to tell that to their constituent. But we need to change that because I think it's a drag. At the very least it's or worse, but at the very least it's a drag on across money to spin around with those thousands of junk bills. And across time, and it's distracting from the good bills. And, you know, and sometimes I think we make a mistake. We let it get through. And it passes. And it gets signed. And it's a terrible bill, which should never have been introduced. I really think there ought to be some critical thinking in the front end but that's just me Tom. Let's talk about the bills that you know you have selected for discussion today and some of them are real corkers. Yeah, well one of them, which is going to be, you know, basically felt by every man woman and child in the state is the is the tax rebate bill Senate bill 514. We've been hearing hearing about that in the news a lot. It gives $300 per exemption.  It's a potential $1,200 bill for you. And for those households making 100,000 or more. Or 200,000 or more per couple. It's $100 per exception. So, this is going to be for the for the 2021 tax year. So if you if you didn't think that you want to file an income tax return for 2021 because maybe you don't have any tax liability or you, you know, you like staying undercover. That's that's probably not a good idea you don't get your free money unless you file your tax return. Okay. How much is it going to cost the government to give that rebate. I think they were saying $250 million. We could we could use $250 million. Don't you think. I mean, is there is there nothing we need to do. Is there no need that we have. $250 million. Have we paid all our bills. Have we, you know, prepared for all the exigencies of living in the 21st century. Have we prepared for climate change. For example. The greatest need in any legislators mind is the need to get reelected. No, that's a good that's a good reason isn't it. That's a good reason. So, I think a lot of people would like to say hey, I the incumbent was in the legislature, and we passed this bill putting $300 in your pocket. Aren't you going to reelect me this time. Thank you very much. What, what does everybody is up for reelection, every single body is up because of the reinforcement. Every legislator, every senator is up for reelection in 2022. To pay off. Maybe. But, you know, let's not let's not forget. This is what our constitution requires now. The constitution requires that if we have too much money, so it's going to be returned to taxpayers. And then, you know, in later years we've enacted all, or you can you know pay down the rainy day fund or you can, or you can pay down the employer. Unfunded liabilities. Okay, but, but as it exists for a very long time, the constitution basically had the requirement that if I think it was since the since the 78 con con that if we have if we have too much money return some of it to the people that's for the constitution. I remember that. But you know, I never felt that we had too much money because, I mean, for example, the employees retirement system is still billions behind the required state contribution. Yep. But wouldn't it be a better idea to pay our bills. I don't know. I think if you ask most people. They would probably say it's you know I think the best thing is some combination of hey you know give some back to me. You know pay our bills and they are paying bills. Okay, the same bill drops $300 million into the pension program and 500 million to the rainy day fund, as well as bring this rebate to taxpayers. I'm not giving a credit for the construction of solar storage facilities. That bill has been, you know, in the ledge for the last four or five years and it has never gotten passed. Now that would improve solar and renewable energy in the state. But for some reason, they keep on bouncing it out again. Wouldn't it be better to spend it on renewable energy? Well, you know, there are a lot of things that, you know, people argue would be better uses of the money. Okay, some people say we should be we should be using that money to improve the social safety net. Some people say we should be supporting small businesses some people say we should be supporting large businesses. Some people say, you know, the list goes on and on and you have all these different viewpoints, and you have to reconcile them somehow. No, you have to, and that's the job of the legislature. Yep. You know, we gave up the electric vehicle tax credit four or five years ago, and we want we have a really a pittance of electric vehicles in this state. We need more, but we don't have any state incentive at all. Wouldn't it be a better idea to incentivize electric vehicles because presumably that would that would help on making us, you know, energy self-reliant. Well, there, there are other, you know, there are other energy related environment related bills, as well, some of them, some of them passed some of them died. This is this is the compromise that the paper recently about a house that slid down the side of the North Shore because the beach had eroded because of, you know, wave action and climate change. I might add that are we really hardened against extreme weather? Are we really hardened against climate change? Are we doing anything? You don't have to answer because the answer I'll give you is no. Wouldn't it be better? Wouldn't it be better? You know, if we spent the money on that out of the box, creative to deal with known existential threats. Yes, the same question to money and activists and get money and different answers. No, but that's what the legislature is there for. It's to determine which of those answers is correct. But the one that seems to be not correct is giving it back in an election year. Well, that's that's what they decided to do. So I might as well go on to another bill that because you know, there's there's no real answer here except to say it's an election year. But really, I mean, you know, you can argue with me all you want, but that's not going to accomplish very much arguing I'm agreeing, but it's sort of a fundamental level. Okay, so let's talk about. Let's talk about tax exempt organizations. Yeah, that's one of my favorite so tax exempt organizations do a lot of work that the government might itself have to do. And why has a fair share of tax exempt organizations, including yours and mine. Yes. And including big ones, little ones, all kinds of purposes and so forth. They're honest and they work hard. They make great contributions in my view to the community. And as I said, they do the work that government would otherwise have to do. So here we have a bill that actually strikes out at nonprofits. Let's talk about that way. Well, I mean, it doesn't strike out at them if it strikes a blow for them. Right now, as you all know, we have our general excise tax here in this state, and not even nonprofits are spared from them from from that tax. And one of the big sources of confusion that has been rampant over all of these years is the is the fact that the GE tax and the income tax defined taxable income of a nonprofit differently. The federal code goes off of a concept called unrelated business taxable income that is, if you're a nonprofit, and you can engage in business activity that that that is not important to your exam purpose and it is, you know, competing with a nonprofit with a regular business, then you get tax the same as the regular business tax. Okay. So for income tax purposes the feds do that for income tax purposes the state does that because we follow the federal law, but for GE tax we do something totally different we say that for GE tax your taxable for any activity the primary purpose of which is to raise money. It doesn't matter what you're going to do with the money. But if your activity raises money, then, then we're going to apply your tax. Okay, Senate bill 3213201 is a game changer, because it's going to say, we're going to, we're going to define the taxable income for nonprofits, the same way we do for income tax. It's the unit of the unrelated business income tax concept.  Under under this bill you don't. I take your point. That's good for nonprofits. For one thing it's consistency the same test applies in, in case of both of those taxes and the other. I think it's a positive thing. You know, to not have to pay gross exercise tax when it's being used being raised for a tax exempt purpose that all seems correct to me. It's a rationalization. I mean, so it's a rational bill and it rationalizes the test for unrelated business income. This is a good thing. I guess I could ask you why it wasn't done before Tom. It costs money. So now the state is actually giving up some revenue. Oh yeah it is. I don't know how much money it's going to cost. I don't think it's a big revenue loser but it.  The, the provisions that go, you know, that the tax, the fundraising income of nonprofit organizations go way back to that I think the 1930s. So did the tax foundation support this bill. We put we offered comments like we do on every bill and we didn't raise any objections, let's say. Okay, and so what. Neither to the department, you know, the, the amazing thing is that, you know, you would have expected the department of tax to kind of jump up and say, Oh my God, this bill is going to lose money hand over fist we're opposing it. But they didn't didn't do any of that. The right role for the department of taxation to be opining on whether a bill going to increase tax revenues or decrease them. Is that part of the mission of the department. I guess it is it's part of their job. And, and litters leaders always, always have questions about how much does this, you know, law change going to cost, how much is that law change going to cost because they have to balance their budget. Okay, well how much is this going to cost. I'm not sure I haven't seen the revenue estimate. It's not in the testimony I don't think. All right, I will say I mean, and it's not only because you and I are both nonprofits I would say as a matter of rational tax policy this is a good bill. And it was not a good idea to have two different different definitions in two separate kinds of taxes. Well, it's it's by no means assured that the bill is going to become law. And I'm not sure is that the Department of Taxes recommending or me recommend the veto of the bill. Why I don't know. It would have to be it's going to cost tax revenues. I think they're also concerned with some of the language in the bill that that you know that that it may not be technically sound. That's interesting you said they did not oppose it in the hearing stuff. But maybe they had a change of heart somewhere. I mean, we're not in a time where we need to be all that concerned about tax revenues. We're not in a time of scarcity we're not in a time of, you know, of lean, so to speak. We do have some money we have enough money for this big refund, and we have enough money for $600 million to the, you know, Hawaiian homelands can you talk about that one. Sure. There are a couple of things going with Hawaiian homelands this year. As you probably heard there was a recent settlement of $300 and something million with beneficiaries who have been on the wait list for a very, very long time. And, you know, we've got 28,700 people on the wait list for getting Hawaiian homelands. People have, you know, scores of people have died on the wait list. So I mean, you talk, you talk about having to wait a long time at the DMV department of motor vehicles. That's nothing. There was a piece on the white public radio of a woman I think was in the conversation. Catherine Cruz a few days ago where this woman was on the list for 30 years, 30 years. I don't know if she ever he was part of the settlement, but she had no idea when she was when she was going to get the settlement or her share of the settlement. That might be another 30 years. Who knows. Can you tell me why though is there ever been discussed and explained why it takes 30 years to to provide a benefit that exists by statute if not constitutional provision. Well, the idea, you know, one of the ideas behind the Hawaiians home commission Hawaiian homes commission act is you have this land that set aside, and you want to put native Hawaiians on the land. Okay. And, but the but the problem is that the land as it now exists is not habitable. You have mountain ranges, you have forests, you have cliffs, and you have some, you know, areas that are really, really wild. So, you know, in the, in the least wild of these, you have to put in infrastructure, you have to build houses, you have to put in, you know, like electricity, water, you know, all the kinds of things that are essential to our daily existence.  And this takes a lot of time.   Okay. And then we, you know, kind of took a look at that and we, we, we kind of were worried because there was a spate in the life of DHHL where they really weren't getting things done. And, and, and so much so that there's a there's a federal block block grant that was given to DHHL every year. And, you know, in the, in the 2000s they were getting like $9 million a year $10 million a year $12 million a year, no stuff like that. But they weren't spending it. Okay. So in 2016, when our, you know, we had our, you know, lovely Trump administration. They decided, okay, fine, you don't want this money we're giving any to you. So they got cut off zero, zero money to department of Hawaiian homelands for this grant into in 2016. And our congressional delegation yelled and screamed, of course, that's what that's, you know, what they, what they are there to do.  And that's, and that's what happened for a number of years after that. Now, I've been told that under under the current administration, the amount's going to go up to like $7 million or $9 million. But a it's not, you know, at the level that it was and B, we don't know for sure if all of the non financial problems that we're preventing DHHL from doing what it needed to do have been solved. So in our testimony on the bill, we said, look, you know, we got to figure out why this federal money hasn't been spent. And if there's a problem that the legislature can fix, let's fix it. Because the last thing we want to do is throw $600 million and have it go unused. Yeah, that's an interesting point, because if Homeland's was getting, what did you say, 1012 million dollars per annum prior to the Trump administration. And that's an interesting question about why it stopped. I mean, what political forces were at play stop it in the Trump administration. Racism comes to mind. But so now, and it sounds to me like we still have that problem. In other words, we're not spending what we're getting. And we're not back up to the old levels of federal grants, but 600 million. What is that supposed to be for. And if they can't spend 10 or 12 million, how are they going to spend 600 million. They are in the bill they do have some alternative means of spending the money like, you know, for the for a time they were thinking of, you know, giving some native Hawaiian beneficiaries assistance with their regular mortgage. If, if they if they were to come off the wait list. That doesn't solve the waitlist problem at all. Well, it does. If you get people off of the wait list. Well, what I'm saying is that's not going to build houses it's not going to build infrastructure to pay somebody's mortgage you in order to get them off the wait list you have to provide a house. Well, I mean that's that's that was the intent along, you know, from the Hawaiians home Hawaiian homes Commission Act of 1920. What a failure. It's just to me like 6600 million is not structured in the sense that we don't know you don't know and if you don't know I sure I sure don't know where it's supposed to go, how it's supposed to be managed. We have to we have to rely on DHL to, you know, to figure out how to use this money and how to use it properly. The good thing that's in the bill is I think it the funding expires in three years. So if they don't use that 600 million dollars in the three years is gone. It goes back to general fund. Let's let's be optimistic and assume they will find a way to use it to find a way to, you know, do the land preparation and the infrastructure and then all that and they will let's assume that they can get their act together and use it. It means that the legislature here spent 600 million on that 328 million on the settlement of the claims of the people who've been waiting for 30 years for a total of 800 plus million dollars. Do we have the money for that? It seems like an awful lot of money. And then when you add to 250 million, the support must go to back to every man woman and child. We're spending like a banshee, aren't we? Yeah, but because we have the money. This year we have the money. So it's not a good year to raise taxes if you have the money. That's right. So that's one reason why we haven't seen as many of the revenue raises as we've seen in the past. Not this year anyway. I mean, next year hold on to your wallets, but this year we seem to be safe for now. Well, have there been any? Any revenue raisers? I mean, they were going through the session, but I don't think any of them are still alive. I tell you, I'm really not, I'm not all that excited about this result. I would rather see us plan forward and prepare the state for threats and, you know, circumstances and potential calamitous disasters that are likely to happen. I mean, since we could have bad weather any day, we could have a problem with the supply line. We do not have, we do not have sufficient food production here. We import more than 90% of our food. If the supply line goes down, we have no plan B and no plan to have plan B and we're not spending any money. When were Kai in the movie we made recently said the state budget included no more than 1% on agriculture. Oh my goodness. So what are we doing, you know, to harden up against that? Well, I mean, these and many other questions are going to be, you know, the topic of our future discussions on bills that were passed by the legislature this year. I think we've kind of run out of time so and we have a number of additional bills to discuss. So maybe we continue our conversation in a couple of weeks. Okay, why don't you say one more we have a couple minutes to do one more. Okay, let you pick what which one. Okay, we have another bill giving an exemption from the general excise tax this time for Steve adoring services. As well as a war fridge and demurrage fees that are paid by paid to the Department of Transportation. This gives a break to the water transportation industry. It makes a lot of sense to, to help that industry out given that pretty much all of our goods have to be shipped in.  Almost everything that we have and consume here in the islands is brought in by ship. And, and I've been saying for you know some time now that if we, and by the way, there are federal prohibitions that say states, including us cannot tax transportation by air. We persist in applying our GE tax to transportation by water. So, so not only are we on an uneven playing field but we are really hurting ourselves by shooting us shooting ourselves in the foot because every incremental increase in the cost of transportation has to go back and get recouped in the prices of our goods and you know goods and services. Any, any help we can give to our, you know, beleaguered transportation industry I think as well. So is this all in that category. Actually, for, for the income that this bill talks about a lot of it is exempt already. Okay. So during services are already exempt. Warfrey didn't emerge our fees paid on behalf of the shipper. And they're paid to the government. So, it really doesn't make sense to tax the, the, the vessel. And they're paid to go to the shipper because they're really just handling the money as an agent and, and paying it to the pain, paying it to a government agency. Like, well, you know, if you ask me to sue somebody, and I, and I went down a court and I paid $100 filing fee to file your lawsuit. The, you know, the GE tax doesn't tax me on the 100 because it's not my income. Well, it strikes me that if anybody gets taxed in the transportation pipeline. The consumer winds up paying the taxes passed along. Right. Oh yeah. If you make an extra tax, the consumer pays more for those goods that are shipped. If you excuse a tax, the consumer presumably, I don't know if this really works in real life but presumably the consumer pays less. So this, this at least theoretically is favors the consumer. Right. Yeah. And I think for that reason it's a very good thing to do. Okay. All right, that's a good bill. Well, thank you, Tom. We are now out of time but that doesn't mean we're out of bills. There's plenty of bills. What's the schedule going forward on the veto practice? How much more will we know by the next time we meet? The next important deadline in the legislative process is June 27 when the governor needs to give notice of intent to veto a bill. So, in, you know, for the next month and a half, we won't know, you know, we won't know very much. And then we can, we can keep talking about the bills that were passed by the legislature, but we won't know for sure what is signed into law until much later. Yeah, okay. On the other hand, we can always repeating that always speculate, right? Right. Tom Yamachika, president of tax foundation of Hawaii joining us to discuss, you know, the product of this legislature and the likelihood that the governor will will either veto or sign a given bill. Thank you so much, Tom. I look forward to our next discussion. Thank you for having me on the show. Aloha.