Yes, I hope you're having a good time right here on the Isakit, the baddest Saturday morning show and man, I'm so excited. I don't even know if it's excitement but I feel excited because Fuli Focus is in the building and she has brought a beautiful artist by the name Lumie and I'm sure you know her, you have had her songs countless times here on the Isakit because DJ Neshke and I'm making sure he has played them, right? So yeah, he has an album, his first album, he'll be talking about it, he has featured the beautiful artist Lumie and yes, you know, I don't want to talk about it too much, let's just jump straight into the interview. Fuli Focus, welcome to the show. Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me.  Absolutely, my name is Fuli Focus, I am a DJ, producer, promoter, all the above from here in Nairobi Kenya, grew up in Atlanta a little bit but I've been spending time back and forth to help push not just Kenyan music but African music on the main stage abroad. Yes, so how is that going? It's been a great journey, you know, spent the last decade and a half you know helping you know push things out there and everything and so the last four years I've been back and forth in Kenya, most people in Nairobi, I think probably some people in Nairobi know me because I've played in several places and I have several events that I do, call, password experience, a shout out to everybody who's been coming for those. Yes, so thank you so much for that introduction, Lumie, can you introduce yourself? Okay, my name is Mi, born and raised in Limuru actually, so I'm a singer-songwriter I'm a singer-songwriter and currently I'm signing a PMG, passport music group. Yes, so welcome to the show. Thank you so much. So before we talk about the songs that you have done together, I have mentioned that you are promoting your debut album currently African ambassador So tell us a bit about that and you have featured quite a number of amazing artists from around the world. Absolutely, I'm around Africa so you know obviously with the growth and explosion of African music outside of Africa, you know there was one or two countries that are getting all the attention right and I think the world needs to see that there's so much more talent across Africa. So I spent the last four years touring in Africa to finding the artists who already big in their countries, but you know need that extra push to go to the next level. So I have artists from about 10 or 11 different countries, so of course we have BN representing Kenya, Yashinsky representing Kenya, Fit for Micah, Uganda, Someday Tanzania, AY Tanzania, Davis D from Rwanda, you have Yaleves from Congo, Mimyo, Shoma Joseph from South Africa, Who else am I forgetting? Slapped B, Yashinsky of course from Kenya, Slapped D representing Zambia, this artist called George from Cape Verde and of course Lumi. Yes, okay, so let's talk about the songs that you have done with Lumi because I mean there are among the first songs that we have is that you have done videos too.  Yeah so pa you know the way we met is three years ago I held a music TV and film conference in Nairobi. I think I should have asked her first. About how you came to meet Fuli Fokas and how that is working for you. Okay, so I met Fuli Fokas through the conference but yeah so I saw this advertisement for this conference, it was a music conference, I'm like wow okay I'm really interested in this so that was around the time when I was really new in the industry and I was trying to you know just get up get my footing so I wanted to network as much as possible as well so I attended the event and I carried a flash disk with my music. I wasn't too familiar Fuli Fokas but I knew that he had made the conference happen it was it was it was really it was an incredible conference so I was like I think this is someone I should talk to so after the conference I went and talked to him I was like hey this is my music tell me what you think and then now later on that's when he reached out he was like oh I really like your music yeah and that's when we started working together he signed here. Yes, what time did you get signed? This was back in 2019 yeah 2019 yeah just before the COVID season right and you did quite a lot during that COVID season with promoting Kenyan music so Lumie coming to the signing you know you were signed under PMG in 2019 Yes. So what have you been able to achieve under PMG? So when I before I was signed under PMG I was doing my sound was quite different but when Fokas reached out he was like okay I would like you to try something just something different just tweak your sound a bit I think you'd sound nice and I was quite deserved because you know me I've grown up with rock rock music so most of my songs were just in English so he's like oh can you have you tried writing in Swahili I'm like I don't know I don't know if I will sound good you know I don't know if I'll make it sound good I was not sure but then he pushed me he was like oh you should do this so I tried and I was like wow this is actually I like this sound this is my sound now yeah and now for the past couple of years we've just been writing recording we've done so many so we've recorded so many songs in Zaint B and right now we're just releasing so it has just been amazing yeah um Fuli Fokas what's your favorite thing working with Lumie? You know everything she said like even from the first day how she presented herself right there was a certain professional way she carried herself there wasn't an entitlement there wasn't a you know because some people approach you like you know you have to do it and that's the wrong way to approach someone it's you know she was she had already packaged herself very professionally from her demo whenever she was polished you know and and she was honest and saying hey this is where I am and this is where I would like to be and she had a clear vision of you know who she wanted to be and how she wanted so I really admired that about her and amazing voice and great phenomenal songwriting which I think is the biggest key of music in general making music in general um and also the what I really enjoyed about she's very coachable like she said there's a certain sound she had but I was like wait in Africa you know and then African music is exploding everywhere so we still have to have that African identity and so it was a process growing into as much as she was hesitant about it she was flexible about it and that allowed the working process to be you know to be better she's very hardworking like she said we've done you know a lot of records that everybody's going to be able to be awaiting for that yes they're coming you know so it's just this whole conversation about you know having uh uh Kenyan artists that are pushing the boundaries and and can make music that kind of put you globally I think she's a phenomenal artist I think she's going to be one of the biggest artists out of Kenya East Africa and everything I claim it yes so speaking about Kenyan music you know you haven't been in you you come and go come and go and you're taking tours around the world so what people's take of Kenyan music out there because you know we every time we are talking about Kenyan music we are always told you know you like playing Kenyan Nigerian music and when our artists go to these other countries they are not as received as we receive um yes so yeah what's your take about that now that you have been around absolutely um so I think we do need to understand that there's there's always going to be two types of you know music there's music that's made for the local audience and then there's music that's made for we can't make everything try to be global onona so and so because of that uh we have to remember the artists that we are all the music that we are trying to make global will be compared to the biggest artists the the burner boys the whiz kids and and that kind of thing and so we have to package it in a way that it does that I think the biggest thing is production we have to understand production is the biggest thing because as you know the beat is what gets your attention first and then you go into the melodies and everything and uh the beauty of it is there's so many references now that you can borrow different ideas from here and there and then give it your own unique sound and that's what like you know kind of we did with uh even with dimension with bn it was like it's afro beats kind of but still it has its own identity right and everything but you know like yes yes so you know shout out to bn that was that was you know a you know a great situation and everything so I feel like uh it's two things one we can package it better but I will also say this we need to move fast you have to understand speed is very important and the rate of which kenyan artists produce and release music is too slow because let's face it you're ready we're ready a far smaller population like like we said in Nigeria and so they already have 50 artists who are putting out music three four times here you talk to an artist somebody takes you two three months to you know send you one song and after that song even if it's big you're you're not able to get something else out of it so we have to work faster and harder to understand that you you know for every ten songs you put out one will be a major hit so the more you put out the more likely you are to get more so like be active be active you know be take that initiative you know and everything and and be proactive right go out there network and everything you see like she said she came to a conference it was actually Easter weekend right so some people had you know Easter to go holiday listen look at look at her situation by her coming out there and everything you know that first song you know he played earlier we actually were able to get it on one of my major laser mixtapes you know so it helps open an audience whatever for her so I think the first time I had that song I if it was not for the swahili I would have thought that this is an international artist yeah exactly because she actually played hiya loads baby yeah nice nice nice first of all shout out to the DJ we've been playing the music but yeah so we have to you have to understand it's it's it's it's like right now everybody's watching the world cup in order for you to be on that world stage you have to play on a world level so no matter how great you are let's say in in Africa when you're there it doesn't matter it's like you're on the world stage that's the same thing with music we have to understand no one cares how you feel no one cares make music find a way to figure it out put in extra work hard work hustle hustle hustle hustle and you know results will come yes that's true so um why did you pick you know the songs that you have done with her to be among the first songs that you do videos for yeah yeah so you know we have to move with the times and what's appealing and and you always have to you know that's part of music marketing is you know where things are and what's the sound as you see music the sounds change so much every six months now music is changing so much and you have to be in tune with okay this is what's this is what's happened yeah so she gets to have a cheat code because i'm a DJ who's in the scene to know okay this is what it is and this is you know that what is but again the best part about it is she has the capability of just having so much range she can make ballads she can make clubs on she can make every kind of thing and so this girl is phenomenal yeah salumi other than you know working with fully focus who else would you want to work with Kenyan industry first yes the Kenyan industry right now it has so many talented artists a lot but okay just to name a few calligraph okay calligraph because when i first when i first started releasing music he actually sent me at the end he was like keep doing what you're doing so the first person that comes to mind is definitely calligraph yani he's so dope right now so obviously everyone would like to have a song with so and it could actually happen i know i mean and the connection is right here and brandy my nation is incredible so yeah i would love to amazing people that you know could take your music to the next level yeah international than everything um fully focus how did you arrive at the selection of the people that you wanted to be on your album yeah um so i started actually this journey four five years ago and the thing that was again i i've always been uh researching a lot of different like not just what everyone else is playing like what is everyone missing what needs to be known about you know local music and everything and so i started reaching out to as many artists as possible who i thought okay these are the right people however i reached out to them after i had already supported them okay okay this is very important uh every artist who's who's who's featured i have put the music on some of my past major laser mixtapes uh you know send it to you know other different countries and everything so when i'm reaching out to someone i'm not asking them for something without giving fast so a lot of people reach out and say give me give me give me give me but it's much easier to get when you've already given somebody something when you've supported someone they feel okay you know what i feel you believed in me before it was convenient for everyone else to believe in me so i i i i respect the relationship most people wait till someone blows up until that's when they're starting supporting no look for the next people people who have potential people who could be every relationship i've ever had is because i supported people before whether it's with kid whether it's you know like i said whether it's major laser it's acorn all these different people i've worked with shown paul is because it was before they blew up and that's the time to support someone when they're not getting views when they're not getting light when someone will remember you more yeah and it's so unfortunate that we support people when they blow up yeah it's it's always you know it's it's human most human beings are it's like followers it's like when something is popular that's when you do it yes but the problem with that is you just become part of the crowd yeah right you stand out more when you do this so all the artists who have featured on i i did not pay for a single feature and i'll pay anyone for it was basically based on relationships hey and they believe in that kind of thing and so you know yeah so that's how what it that's how it was and then we started you know working together and here we are now okay so um you know we we're always talking about you know connections you need to know this person you need to know this person does that work the same in music you need to know somebody for you to make a certain step well other than in a few cases like you know in your case when you want to see him you talk to him and you are able to make a connection does does it work like that in music like i need to know so and so i need to know full focus i need to know lumi i need to know bn i need to know so and so so that i can make it yeah so so in the past it used to be you need those people for your music to get heard i think now it's more you need those people to understand how to navigate through the industry right because nowadays you can make music put it out on youtube soundcloud whatever it is on your own you don't need anybody to you know to validate your music to get out there but it it only makes sense to work with people who have already been in that those spaces to understand oh actually this is how you maximize on this this is how you're able to get this down and get this done so i think networking is extremely important it has been very helpful for my you know my life and everything and again some of these people uh end up people who are working in certain levels end up running big organizations later on that you could benefit from right that kind of thing but again you know there's a principle that says follow the person not the position right so for instance right now you're you know your host of whatever this show most people if you left or got fired god forbid and everything they'll try to follow i rebuke that they'll try to follow the person who'll be sitting on that chair next as opposed to you the individual who already believed and not knowing if you had the capability to get this position you can get that position anywhere you go and so instead of following you and maintaining a relationship with you the individual they're following the position and so what i always try to do is follow the people wherever the people are you believe and you start with maintain those relationships wherever they go wherever they go so that you're not a cloud chaser you're not just trying to be there for just the opportunity have loyalty i'm substance that's you know loyalty exactly so yeah so lumie you've been able to perform in stages where he is having his shows you know the pxp is how how has that experience been for you honestly uh my first performance before png i was definitely not ready it was it was such a horrible experience what do you mean what happened i didn't like it like i my knees were shaky like it was just terrible yeah but then performing to the songs that have done with him performing the songs that have done with him it just feels natural it feels nice like you're just vibing on stage yeah you just you know with the crowd the crowd is as it is just it's just nice yes it's just nice yeah it's not as nervous as yeah i really am more confident as i'm a more confident performance yes that's nice so what's next for lumie whoa oh first of all we are waiting for those um songs that you are working on together yeah because then you know there are artists who do staff together and it's always a hit so i feel like it's the same way with you too yeah so what's next yeah hopefully this coming year 2023 we'll be able to release more songs because we have worked on a lot of songs right so um we are asking our audience back at home you know if your parent or guardian was offered five million shillings to watch your life as a movie would you want them to take the money save that again if your guardian or your parent was offered five million shillings to watch your life as a movie like they sit down they see all the things that you've been doing all the things that you'll be like a movie like you know it's a movie yes would you want them to take that money not only would they take it they'll put like that and the reason i'll say that is my life has not been perfect it's been full of ups and downs but you know the the thing about it is i've learned that this thing is not there's no destination it's a constant yeah it's ups and downs and the top of one heel is the bottom of the next and that's the joy of life it's enjoying these moments it's enjoying these different things every stage and everywhere don't it's not just about oh that place you know there's something called destination happiness where you're thinking i won't be happy until i get i get this yeah no i learned that no along the way this is the whatever it is so i'm very grateful for everything that's happened with and for me i think uh my uh folks would be my mother would be okay with the watch yes there's nothing embarrassing that you wouldn't want her to see it's not caught on tape no we're catching everything everything like from everything i've had some embarrassing moments i've been evicted from my place uh you know i've slept on floors i've had you know moments where you know my bank accounts were closed because i couldn't be able to pay for anything um you know uh i've been fired from jobs i've had jobs before where i was i was unsweeping the parking lot i've been uncooking i was a watchman i've had all these moments yeah i was i was a makanga here at some point really yes so you know so to at that stage it felt embarrassing but i didn't know it was building my character and it's i'm now proud to say it's part of my story it's true you see what i'm saying if it was just those moments you would feel like oh the world is ending so anybody who may be down who've had some embarrassing moments who've had failures uh i put out i've put out projects where no one no one liked no one enjoyed in everything i'll give you a quick story for instance a song like dimension right dimension is getting amazing plays uh it was you know when i first released that song after you finished with beyond i used to go to clubs three four nights like like three four clubs in a night and go to the dj's and please play please play even if the dj's no wait before dimension no no no this is dimension may of this year june of this year july of this year when we were done recording this song i would go friday saturday sunday to clubs three four clubs to go to the dj can you please play my song and everything even though this dj's know me and of course most of them would you know oblige and everything but i was out there working it like that going three four whatever it is even last night i was out promoting our song and everything um till four a.m. you know that's actually my has arrived you know anyway and then after that i would get on tiktok make like five six tiktoks these tiktoks i was getting two views one like that kind of thing and everything get you know do instagram rails and that kind of thing but it was like trying to create any kind of momentum because no one is going to come save me no one is going to come help me and even if you do a song with a big artist they are more uh uh their objective is to promote their music not yours so but they will respond based on how much you are putting into it and so and so when i was on tiktok making tiktoks and no one is liking no one is whatever it is i also had looked like a fool at that time but fast forward to now it is the second song it's actually this year on apple top 100 the longest charting kenyan song on apple top 100 100 music you know this year you know um other than the other song bien did um you know mind everything so my point in all that is to say this when you're going through these moments where you're hustling and and whether you have a you know like i said what come on you watch man whatever it is doesn't matter or when you're putting out your content and no one is liking and no one is viewing and no one is talking about it it may seem embarrassing but keep going keep going keep going and you know the end result will show for itself yeah sorry i went off topic it's okay i i think that was important as well yeah lumie what about you if your parents your guardian was offered five million shillings to watch your life as a movie would you want them to take them money okay at first i'd have said no no no no but i'm sure like i'm sure the movie will be really long so at some point at a dose you know so you just hope at the point at a dose those are the most embarrassing i can't but i just be too poor you know so yes the good part yes the good part yeah and no questions after yeah so thank you so much guys for coming through i appreciate your time so maybe we can tell people in very few words where they can find the album and move your music and for lumie as well so we start with you lumie yeah so you can find me on social media at lumie music k e instagram twitter and yeah you can stream on music on all platforms it's all available yeah keep jamming yes like she said the album is called african ambassador it is available on all platforms right now everywhere apple spotify youtube boom play shout out to boom play recently hit a million streams i hit a million streams on boom play as an artist producer and everything so it's on it's available all platforms please support it please you know share it with your friends and everything make sure you support this amazing amazing amazing artist she's gonna be big like i said support her before she blows up true okay so so for instance we will always whatever you need from us we will always be here because you've believed in us before thank you yes so thank you so much for coming through we do appreciate your time and we wish you all the best in your as you continue with your journey and as you go on to as well for the exp i mean thank you thank you yes yes there is a lot coming in the month of december and shout out to everyone who's gonna be in diani for new years okay okay me patatlanya annu yes mapema mapema mapema and the best right yeah so um what are you playing no all right so let's listen to you know sababu by lumi and


Hey everyone, welcome to the CNCF webinar where we are talking about how to generate Vex documents based on application behavior using Cubescape. Now there might be a lot of words you haven't heard before yet, so I'm going to explain the whole. So be with me in the next minutes. So welcome here. So who am I? Just a few words. I'm Ben, a co-founder at NCT WhatArmo, but as how I'm related to Cubescape, I'm one of the maintainers and project initiators of Cubescape. We'll talk about a little bit further on what is Cubescape. I'm also coming from a security background before coming into the cloud native world if I could talk a little bit in this way. And in general, I love innovation, I love innovative things and I love security. So this is about me. So what is Cubescape? Cubescape is a Kubernetes security project. We started Cubescape from two to half years ago by enabling users to scan their clusters, their YAML files and hand charts from security misconfigurations, security potential security problems based on NSA's hardening guide and the project evolves into a general Kubernetes security posture project which can meet you in different phases of your workflow. It meets you as we started from the Kubernetes runtime side where we are running a cluster and workloads but we are also supporting also the left side. So the development side, you can create even in your visual studio code, we can find potential configuration problems from a security perspective or find vulnerabilities. You can embed Cubescape into your CI-CD processes. You can monitor your cluster and in general it became a security security posture tool finding configuration issues in your cluster, finding image vulnerabilities, finding different aspects through EBPF in your cluster which you need to fix. So just before we are going further, receiving shock and if you don't know what is CVE shock then you might need to do a little bit more explanation from us to that. So one of the best definitions I've heard up until now that CVE shock is actually a state of total helplessness when facing the overwhelming list of CVEs returned by the vulnerability scanners. So this is true, I completely designed on this you know, when we are working with vulnerability scanners finding vulnerabilities in our container images in our clusters, the results most of the time are overwhelming, we have tons of false positives of different vulnerabilities existing in packages inside our containers but most of it, actually what we are looking for is to know whether these vulnerabilities can be exploited by an external attacker or in what ways they can be exploited, we don't know that. So therefore we are getting a bunch of results and we have hard time managing them. So just to give you a feeling about what are the different vulnerabilities and what are the accounts. So we took a few, for the sake of this presentation we took a few well-known applications, containers and applications I guess most of them and you can see that they are today delivering these container images are shipped with tens, if not nearly hundreds of vulnerabilities by the time you're deploying them in your cluster and this is like something that obviously vulnerabilities are not good and we need to keep the limit them but also it's sometimes very, very hard to limit them and fix them or wait for fixes from external vendors like in this case of these images. So sometimes it's very hard to manage them therefore it is very important to understand which of them are really posing a threat or risk to your environment and which of them are not. We had a CubeScape, we started to work on a feature a year ago, a little bit more than a year ago which we called reachability. So reachability is a super interesting feature because we've noticed that most of the vulnerabilities that are returned by the scanners are belonging to packages, software packages inside your container images that are not even opened during the runtime. So this means that when the container images used and running those pieces of software are not even loaded into the memory this means that they cannot be exploited directly by an attacker. This means that when the software is running and accepting packets from the outside world through a network, these software packages are not running and therefore we devised a way to differentiate between vulnerabilities that are belonging to packages which are not run inside an image, inside the container, sorry. And vulnerabilities that are belonging to software packages that are running inside your container. And the way we do it is CubeScape itself uses another CNCF project called Inspector Gadget. Inspector Gadget, if you don't know them, you should. It's an EPPF project, I think one of the best around and they give us visibility over what's happening inside workloads, what is happening inside the workloads and between the kernel. So if you have a pod which is running we can use Inspector Gadget in order to trace what kind of system calls the pods are doing. And if we are looking at what kind of system calls they are doing against the kernel, Inspector Gadget helps us to understand what files are opened during the runtime of the pod. So if we know what files are opened and we know during our vulnerability scanning we get to an S-bomb which we are generating using gripe. We understand what software packages are inside that container image using this tracing information about what files were touched by the pod inside the container helps us to understand which software packages were used and opened during the runtime of a pod. This helps us to differentiate between software packages that are dormant or software packages that are actually used during the runtime of an image. And using this S-bomb differentiation we can only cross check those packages that are used in runtime against the vulnerability scanner and understand and mark those vulnerabilities are what we called relevant or reachable vulnerabilities. These are the vulnerabilities that are actually can be exploited at all and during the runtime of a container image. And this is a very big difference. So just to give you high level understanding given a reddish image we tried during the preparation of the data of this talk we found that there are more than 150 vulnerabilities in the reddish image scan. But if we are subtracting from them the all those who are belonging to software packages that are not loaded into memory as it turns out we have less than if I recall correctly than less than 40 or 30 vulnerabilities. This means like a 20 or more percent reduction to 20 or more percent like reduction by at least 80%. And this brings me to the next point is how to pack this information. So during the last year more and more people are talking about a format called VEX. VEX is around for a few years right now and multiple industry organizations are talking about it. Among them the Linux Foundation OpenSSF and also tech security in CNCF. VEX stands for Vulnerability Exchange Document and it helps you to explain and give a log about what are the vulnerabilities that really matter in your software product. So it's a document format which actually enables you to devise a package that you are using in your software delivery and what is a vulnerability that is bound to the same product and what's the status whether it is something that needs, it's fixed, it's affected or not affected really. So it's something that a vulnerability that matters or doesn't matter. And this is something that we are, we've been started looking at. So how do you get VEX documents? How do you, how do you attain them? That's the hard part. So for a long time people were talking about VEX and I wouldn't say that there is a very clear winning standard of how to describe this document but on the other hand more and more people are understanding the importance and I think that in the, it's a prediction by me but in the upcoming years this is going to be more and more important just like S-Bomb become a standard delivery artifact for software renders. VEX is most likely will become as well because somehow software renders will be, will need to able to communicate vulnerabilities to their users. And, but the problem is that it is very tedious and hard to maintain such a document. You know, every time that there is new vulnerability exposure somewhere in some, one of your dependencies as a software render you have to start to evaluate whether this is, this vulnerability affects your outputs or end product or not. And this is very tedious and a lot of effort involving job to do. Therefore, we thought of the best solution for that would be to start to generating VEX based on, you know, automatically and without human involvement. And therefore we devised way in Cubescape to generate VEX documents automatically for application behavior using our reachability capability which on one hand we are able to tell what are the vulnerabilities inside a container image. On the other hand we are able to say which are among those vulnerabilities which are those who are not loaded into memory. Therefore we can mark them in VEX document as vulnerabilities that are not affecting really the product. And this gives us an automatically a way of generating good VEX documents. So it started nearly a half year ago. There was a discussion with the open SSF team at Linux Foundation about the importance of ideas around it and among the way came up the idea of Cubescape supporting the production of this format. And we started to manage this project immediately. You know, I hear, you can see from the ticket that there were other contributors to this project outside of the original Cubescape team. And you know, we started supporting in the beta version like two months ago I think, not more than two months ago. So as part of this webinar, I want to show you how it works. So let's go there.  So hope that everything works.  As you can see, I've needed to turn on the best generation as a capability. This is something that right now we need to enable explicitly during, you know, the testing of the feature. And when we see that it will work stable for everyone we'll enable it by default for every use case. So I can see that still my containers are starting up. Cubescape is in the starting up phase. So let's wait a second for that. So as the pods are nearly there, they're nearly running. In the meantime, I'm also starting up. Yeah, everything is running here. So I'm starting up a demo deployment and deploying an NGNX from the Kubernetes examples. What will happen right now is this container starts up. Let's check this out in K9S. So you can see that there are two NGNX pods are running in this example. So what's happening is now that during this time, the NodeAgent component in Cubescape operator it does, it starts to monitor the application behavior, trace the application behavior as I told you before and is looking into how the NGNX deployment behaves in the very same time we're doing the NodeAgent is monitoring. Actually, the cubulin here, this pod is this one is creating an S-bomb for the NGNX image running inside this pod. So it is just for you to see. So as you can see, it's a pretty old NGNX is NGNX 1.14.2. And it will must have a lot of vulnerabilities. So during this time, while we are monitoring, you can already start to check whether we already have the VEX document for this component. So let's wait a few seconds for it to come up. So we're watching and waiting. While we're waiting, I'm just giving another explanation. So Cubes, oh, here it comes. So for both pods, we got a VEX document. So let me stop here. So what you see here is actually Kubernetes object, Cubescape emits all its scan results as Kubernetes objects. You can talk to them through the Kubernetes API and get them. So just for you to show you, if I want to try to get this object here, let's try to get it as JSON file. And yeah, here it is. So what you see here is the row VEX document. You can see here, I just showed you that you have here, for example, a CVE, that when we're looking at the impact statement, which is one of the main things in a VEX file, also you can see the status. So the status of this CVE in this image is that it's not affected. It means that in our case, Wilhelmberg component is not loaded into the memory. As I just, we are giving this information to you. But the question is okay, that this is a hard thing and what you can do with it. So as you know, we are going forward. More and more tools we're managing when our bit is will be able to ingest VEX documents. But I want to show you to already how to use that. But even beforehand, let's, I've just emitted this JSON into a file, showing you here, few interesting things. So if I want to check in this JSON file, how many vulnerabilities are what we call affected? You can see that only four of the vulnerabilities in this container image are affected during our tests. And to check out who's are not affected, how many of them are not affected, you can see that 392 vulnerabilities are not part of software packages that are not loaded into the memory and only four of them are. So you can see that it's a huge, huge gain because instead of 396 vulnerabilities that you would need to manage, you have only four. So that is about the demo. For your consideration, think about how do you think that this can help CNCF project? How, you know, how this can drive VEX adoption and to go away, okay, I will be really, it will be very helpful if you could, you know, give feedback on Cubescape and VEX, you know, use our CNCF Slack channel or open an issue, we'd love it to be in contact if this is something that interests you. So thank you very much.


Alright, I'm alive. You're alive? I'm alive. Good thing you're alive.  Oh yeah, I probably did. Because as soon as I did that, it seemed to. But did you just come on? Uh-huh. Okay, I got you on here. Oh, I've got two on here. Oh yeah? Yeah. Hello, Miss Lottie Duh. She says hi. Alright. And there you go to the side. I want to believe in someone, but I can't read it. I like her, that's about 52%. Oh, here's my plug. We got you, Miss Lottie Duh, and me. Uh-huh. Nuffin edited. Hi, Carol. Can you see that? Uh-huh. Alright, so we got Monkey. We got Nuffin edited. I just lost two people. Uh-oh. Oh, Captain Egghead. Eggbeard. Sorry. Hey, Captain. Nice talk to you. Yeah, I might have to reload my two. Yeah, that's what Carol just said. Did you read hers? Yeah, let me reload it, and I'll be right back. Yeah, she's got to do the same thing. Still in here, as you can see. Which I mean, that's okay. On the update. Okay, so we found out what happened, right? Yeah, today you had your procedure. Well, yeah, but we didn't know for sure if it was a stroke last time I talked on. Remember, we didn't know for sure. Right. But it was. Um, yeah, I had multiple strokes. Like six. I had six strokes.  There's Nancy. Hi, Nancy. Hi, Nancy. Thank you, Nancy. Um, still in here because they ran a, what was it called? A T. Yeah. Which is where they put me to sleep and they ran this. Like a scope down in the throat. Like a scope down in my throat. But they could see my heart better. Right. And two things caused what happened to me. Oh, there's Ben. Hi, Ben. Hi, Ben. Thank you, buddy. Thanks, buddy. I'll be sure to watch it tonight because I got my phone and stuff here. Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it. So, two, two things that, that, that would cause that was, um, thanks, Will. Hang on a second. Yeah, come in. Just a second. You okay? Feel better? Yeah, I feel a little better. It's a regular shower. At least it'll keep you clean. Yeah. All right. Um, I got some, uh, going to get some medicine for you. Okay. I'll be right with you guys. I'm live streaming. Say hello. Oh, yes. He's a YouTuber. Oh, yeah. Okay. If I'll talk to brother medicine. Sure. What's your date of birth? 114.69. Okay. I got some new tour for the cholesterol. Mm-hmm. And that's it. Yeah. Okay. Have a good one. No aspirin? My stream, aspirin may be in the morning. Yeah, I think that's when I get it. It's in the morning. Yeah. You got it this morning at a club. Yeah. All right. In the morning, about six to ten in the morning, I'll be bringing you some protonics for your stomach. Right. Okay. So, just a minute, guys. That is medicine time. I knew I should wait a few more minutes. He said, no, I do it now, because I'm going to make a video, but watch time in a chair. 1969. You're still a young and bare. Yeah. Yeah, he's a young and bare. Yeah, he's young. Too young for this. Yeah. I felt like, well, go ahead, because he might be a few minutes. That's it. In the stream, do you, what you got to do and come back? No, I'm good. So, two things causes that, which was the first one was. Yes. High cholesterol. Yeah. There's one problem there. You're just too tired to sit. Let me get one more. All right. So, the first, the first one is with high cholesterol. Right. Was, I can chew clots up in my brain. Or a hole in my heart. This was worst case scenario. Guess which one I picked. He has a hole in his heart. I got a hole in my heart. So, they were going to let him go home. And they were going to let him go home and go to the doctors on Thursday to see a cardiologist that comes only on Thursday from Leesburg, where we live. So, anyway, so they decided at the last minute to keep him here. So, they're going to keep him here. And in the morning, the doctors are going to get together and they're going to decide on when they're going to do surgery. Cool. I got a team. I'm important. I got a team of doctors, man. Yeah. He got the team of doctors. Four of them. Yeah. Four of them. They know Shebaer. That's right. Yeah. This is Shebaer's in the hospital. We got to take care of him. Yeah. Okay. I'm a famous YouTuber. Yeah. I'm telling my nurse I'm famous. That's happening. He's like, yeah, right. No, I'm not famous. I did have some followers, but I'm not, I'm not famous, famous. No, they're some that really are, though. They make money, too. Uh-huh. Yeah. Big money. Yeah. I make some money. Not like they do, though. No.  I'm lucky to buy a new pair of socks once more. That makes more sure I be as well. All right. Okay. You need to be on this side. All right. You're buying. My T-star. Hey, you're our YT-star. YouTube star. Yeah, I'm their YouTube star. That's right. Yeah, there you go. Tomorrow, my one surgery will be. That's a simple thing. It's not like an open water surgery or nothing. They're just going to, like, buy a cycle tire. They're just going to patch it. Well, I can do that in my own damn garage. Hey, guys, how long you've had this hole? Because he could have had it from birth and never had it. Yeah, I could have. It's been on, uh, it's been there a while. Probably a while, and never really had a good breath. He'll be done in a minute.  Uh, they use the, uh... Dr. Simon. Yeah. All right. Thank you. All right. Is that all you need? That's it. Thank you very much. No problem, man. Chris said hi. Superman, Marty. What's up? There you go. There you go. You can talk now. Superman, Marty, huh? So, Superman, Marty, what's up? What's up, Chris? No. Hey, Chris. How was Sunday with you guys? Well, Sunday with you guys. That's, that's, um, much cooler than I, I've got a hole in my heart. Um, so they got a new surgery to fix it, which is not really that big of a deal. They make a little incision. They pretty much put a patch over the hole. I'm still limiting on now since, um, because I have the strokes, and I'm limiting on what I can do with my right side now. Right. I have my left. So, I don't believe what you hear about people say it's only your left side. Because remember, you have a left and right side of your brain that crosses over. So, I had five strokes and my left side of my brain, so that means my right side is numb. They said it could work out of it, but if it don't, they said it's okay because at least you've got some functionality. Yeah, they certainly do it. To where some people lose, you know, they lose everything. And I'm very lucky to even be here, so. Yeah. They're very lucky. Better a patch than a plug. Hey, I got a plug in my truck, don't I? Oh, I'll just do it at home then. Let's go. I do have a plug in my truck. It's not going in your heart. Yeah, I hate hospitals too, Chris, but, you know, I mean, I was kind of looking forward to coming home then when they said, well, you know, it'd be best if you stayed because of the insurance things and all that. That way, I can go ahead and get it done here, you know, because the person that was going to do it may not. They may, may do go to Leesburg. Yeah. So. Oh, it's further. Yeah, and so, okay, fine, no problem. Yeah, I really want to go and see Bruno and stuff, but I mean, you know, it is what it is. Yeah. I'm gonna do what you gotta do. And you're already here, so we'll just do it.  I don't think they'll do it tomorrow. I think they'll probably do it in the next couple of days. It'll be done this week, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, I do. We'll know more. I think it's an outpatient thing anyway, ain't it? No. But either way, I'm still already here, so that way, because if it'll let me go and then, you know, I tried to get it done somewhere else, I might not have been able to get it done. So we're putting it to the man. Yeah. See, I can't feel that. Nip it in the butt. No. Nip it in the butt? No, that's not what I'm saying. We're screwing the man. You're not really screwing the man. We're getting around things. Yeah, so we can get it done. Which is, is fine.  It wasn't that bad. Do you like your hamburger? The hamburger was okay. The mystery meat was okay. Sweet potatoes, wasn't that great? No, they were watery. My Brussels sprouts were horrible. But the food is not that great here. Some of it I think is probably just the same thing as meals on wheels. I really believe that. I should have you bring me some salt. No. I don't want to eat salt when I get home, so. You're on a strict diet. You're on a heart-healthy diet. For ever. No, I'm not. You take everything away from a man. Might as well just kill me now. Taking everything. Okay, if you quit eating what you want. You quit doing what you want. You quit going places you want to go. You quit videotaping. You quit having a life to me. You might as well die. At least if I die, I'm doing something that I enjoy doing and I'm hurting no one.  Not only did I just die, I died very unhappy and not living a life. I can't cross my legs. That causes blood clots. Come on, you know. Let's get real. Anyway guys, just wanted to update you on that. Probably been 15 minutes. Boring minutes, I know. I'm sorry. But I just wanted to let you know what's going on.  And this hole in my heart was not caused by smoking. Thank you. That's not what they said. No, yes it is. They said no smoking, period. They said, yeah, no smoking. You shouldn't smoke now. But the damage is already done. The hole is already there.  I wonder if you were born with it. That's what I wonder. My cousin was born with a hole in my heart. I mean, I don't need to hear the smoking voice. You can't go up the garage and do nothing now.  Not for a little while, so you get better. I follow the rules. Look, I follow some rules, you know. I mean, I've cut down from three packs of cigarettes a day to less than half a pack. I'm good. Okay, and look where it got me. Since I started cutting down, I've gotten sicker. I've ended up in the hospital more than once. Right? Think about it. Huh? Well, I don't think it's from the cigarettes. Okay. Just think you're getting older and things are breaking down. Right here. What I'm trying to say, guys, is this is proof that once I blow down on everything I've been doing, now I end up in the hospital. See my point of view. Yeah, I see your point of view. That's what I'm trying to say. I'm not going to argue with nobody about this. I've got my beliefs. It's funny how I was smoking three packs a day. And I was doing fine. Right. Working every day, working all the every time I could, you know, working six days a week. I was doing great. I started cutting down on my cigarettes because I was told to start cutting down on drinking because I was told to start quit doing things that I was told I shouldn't do. And look, I'm dying now. Think about it, guys. Seriously, think about that. You're not dying. Okay, I could have. I could have. Yeah, you could have. Yeah. Okay, that's what I'm saying. Okay, the man smokes three packs of cigarettes a day and shit, and he's fine.  Six strokes. Come on. Think, that's all I'm trying to say, guys.  And I just, you know, because see, well, it'll make me stronger. Actually, I've gotten weaker since I've cut down. Haven't I? Ask her. I have. I have gotten weaker since I've cut down smoking. She said, well, you do have a point. You know, quit everything and look at him. Exactly. I mean, I understand moderation. I mean, okay, so yeah, I did cut down. And then everybody says you need to cut down more. You need to cut down more. Now I need to quit. Now I'm afraid if I do quit smoking, I will be dead. I mean, I'm a firm believer. And come on, you know, if they ain't broke, don't fix it. All at once, I started having to cut down. Okay, so I did it for her. I started cutting down on cigarettes, cut down more, cut down more. I started getting sicker and sicker and sicker, you know. Now look at me. I'm in this bed and this ain't me, you know.  I know.  I need to go camping.  And this is proof right here, why? You know, 50 years old, have sixes wake up six o'clock in the morning on a Saturday. The next thing I know, I'm on the floor hauling for her, you know. I can't move. I'm paralyzed. You know. I know. And it's all because I smoked a cigarette the night before at 11 o'clock. I find it hard to believe this hole in my heart is not caused by my cigarette. I really don't believe that. No, not gonna make me believe it. And then I got a dude that's like 23 years old coming in telling me, just quit like that. Quit. That's the best way to do it, and it's the easiest.  He looks like a 12-year-old. God.  You know, I don't even want to talk to somebody like that. Yeah. Well, that's what you need to do, and you'll live longer.  Remember? Yeah. I'm like, are you a doctor?  Yeah, I agree. Well, how long is this gonna take? Really? Because I haven't had a cigarette since Friday and nothing's gotten better. Yeah, doctors all think they're bigger. Or worse. Yeah, they do. And then...  God.   And I believe right now, if I were quit smoking, I'd still be in the same damn situation right now. I was. Three packs a day. I was breathing good when we met. Was I healthy? You're healthy. Yeah. I could do anything. I could walk anywhere. Well, you're fine. I was fine smoking. And I was, I was, no, I was not huffing and puffing. I was smoking three and a half packs of cigarettes a day. Yeah. And then when I started cutting down, I started getting weaker and weaker.  I know it's a bad habit, but what about coffee? Oh, everything is. Everything's bad for you. Somebody that loves their coffee every morning. Stop. Just stop. It's that easy. Oh, they didn't say coffee's bad for you. In fact, in fact, they say it's good for you for your heart. Coffee's caffeine. I'm just, listen to me. Forget about whether it's good or bad for you. I'm saying it's an addiction just like cigarettes. Oh, anything can be an addiction. Oh, okay. And then you stop smoking. You stop drinking that pot of coffee a day and see how easy it is. You know, whatever the case may be, you know, chewing gum. You know, don't chew no more gum. I'm serious. And that's why they need to, you know, look at their patients. You don't just walk in 22 years old until a 50-year-old stops smoking. That's easy. That's the best way to do it. Stop smoking. You'll probably never have a problem again in your life. No, because you know what? I'll die tomorrow.   You know? They do. You'll be fine. Heart and heart is a genetic defect. Yeah, I was reading that too. Mm-hmm. That's probably why my cousin came in. He was my mom's sister's daughter. Right. Had a home when she was born. And you may have had it when you were born. I may have. Because they never had a reason to look for it. No. Like they did with Kimmy, you know. I mean, they had a reason to look for it. I had never really had a reason for them to go searching for it. No, they shouldn't come after them like that either. Yeah.  Well, if I could, I'd drink 12 a day. When I was working, it wasn't enough for me to drink 8, 12 ounce cans of coke a day. No, that had nothing to do with it. Right. You know, no, that didn't have anything to do with it. Lifting axles at 100 degrees, laying on 120 degree, 130 degree concrete. Lifting axles up under trailers. That had nothing to do with it. Well, how do we know that it could happen then? Exactly. Mm-hmm. But it's a damn secret. Put that secret down. I'm like, really? Come on, it's a hole in the heart.  Shit, I might as well just go out with a pack in the pocket. Jesus. If I got to quit everything I want to do or that I enjoy doing, you know, I enjoy building stuff for her, making stuff for her. I'm not stopping. I'm not quitting. You know, it's something I enjoy. I enjoy to see her smile. Like when I made the birdhouse, you know, see her smile. I ain't stopping that. You know? No. I can work on that stuff slowly in my garage in my own leisure, you know? That's what makes me happy. You know? Mm-hmm. You know?  Mm-hmm. We're still going on adventures and that's why that's what I enjoy. Really amazing that you didn't have more damage than what you have. Yeah, that's what they told me. Amazing. Yeah. The hole in my heart came from her. It'd be nice. It did. You had to shoot the arrow with me. Oh, it's not what it was. Okay. He got out of that one, didn't he? Yeah. But, yeah, yeah, look at this stuff. Yeah. There's a lot of tingling on my left side. My grip's not good. They said it could come back, but if it don't, they said at least you have some functionality. You can still do things, you know? Yeah. I mean, I can still... Uh-huh. Bingo. Kind of like that. But, you know, yeah, but I can still... I can still do some stuff. And like he said, I remember my dad's girlfriend before he died. Uh-huh. Yeah, she was... Her left arm was paralyzed from a stroke. And she had to use a walker and a cane. Yeah. But she still got around and did stuff. But, yeah, but that was her left side. But, yeah, I mean, she had no use of her left arm. And her left leg was barely usable.  Yeah, I can still walk. And as long as I got my hands and some eyesight, I'm happy.  Lucky.  And I appreciate it. I appreciate everything, guys. Thanks, well, I appreciate it, man.  You're my family. And I'm not just going to call you fam. Because I'm not one of them YouTubers. I'm sincere when I call you my family, you know. Yeah, we're all family. So I'm going to get off of here. I think she's getting ready to go home, right? Yeah. She could stay if she wants, but she's, you know, got to take care of Bruno. And she's got to go to work in the morning and stuff. It's a great day tomorrow, so. But, uh, is there anything you want to say, mom? No. Yeah, we'll meet up, Ben, for sure, buddy. Thank you so much. Kim said bye, monkey. Bye. Thanks, Will. We love you too, man. Thanks a lot. Night care. I'll see you. I'll see y'all good. We'll know more again tomorrow. So we'll let y'all know, you know, what surgery is going to be. Oh, thanks, Kenny. You'll have to roll this back, man. We're just getting ready to get off of here, buddy. Kenny just went in. I'm sorry, man. Thanks for joining. Bye, Will. See you, buddy. Bye, everyone. Thanks, Carol. So I'm going to get off here so I can tell her goodbye in 30 minutes. So I'll be back in action soon as soon as I get out of here, man. Who knows? I might make some videos while I'm in here, Kenny. I'll see what I can do. Maybe he'll find some spirits. I do have a story about that thing flying off that bed over there. Yeah? Yeah. All right, guys. Love y'all. Thanks, man. Y'all be cool. We'll see you soon. Bye-bye.


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Okay. Good morning everyone and welcome to BC 314, our course on media and technology in ministry. Thank you for joining the class today. Just like to request somebody to pray with us and then we will get started. Somebody could pray with us please. We are heavenly Father, I come to you under the name of Jesus. Thank you for this day. Thank you for the class that you have given us Lord as we learn about media and technology Jesus. God I pray that you will help us to understand the things and to apply it in our ministry to know the positives and negatives and to apply it in the right way where it cannot edify your people Jesus. Build us up in this skill so that we can shine right before the kingdom. We give thanks to you for this life and for the valuable teachings that he is giving us and thank you for all my classmates. Give us a good welfare connection for the session. We give you all the glory and honor in Jesus name and faith. Amen. Thank you. Alright so let's pick up from where we paused last week. Share my screen, share the PDF and so last week we spent some time talking about websites and a little bit about emails. Just quickly run through it. So we said we need you know as we think about digital engagement that's relating to people online, we need to have a strategy and how we are going to reach the people, people inside the church, people outside the church, people who are the congregation, people are the crowd, try to understand them and reach them and then also evaluate progress how we can you know do how we do things and so on. So and there are a lot of examples, numerous people can share examples of how they have effectively used digital engagement to serve people, there are lots and lots of examples and yeah. So let me start talking about websites. So having a website is quite important these days. People expect a church or a ministry to have a website and that's where they will go to you know get information about the church and so I think my personal thought is it is the moment you know your ministry has started, it's good to have at least a basic website and let the website grow over time and so some thoughts we had shared, you can use what is known as a content management system, there are lots of different content management systems available, some are very simple to use, some have lots more features and so on. You can get some people to help you, choose a nice domain name. These days registering a domain name is very easy, you know it just takes a little amount of money, small money, you can get a nice domain name, use something that people will remember. So you use a hosting service provider, they will register your name and you know there's again many many hosting providers depending which part of the world you are in, you'll find something that's cheap and easy. Build a nice website, have some you know some logical structure, we call it information architecture, have a logical structure to your website and you know what people will be looking for, that information should be available, make it very pleasant, meaningful and you know some of the things that you can do is collect information, those are visiting your website and so on, connect your website to social media accounts, optimize your website for search engines when people search they'll find you and then keep in mind that actually you know how search engines are working these days are changing, it's always changing and now even more because of the introduction of artificial intelligence and related technologies, the way these search engines are working are changing. Before I'll just give you an idea of how it's changing. Before search engines used to look for you know words, phrases but now the search engines have become more intelligent, they actually do what is known as sentiment analysis and they actually not only read words and phrases that are being used in the website, they in some way understand the meaning of what's being said, you know so search engines are changing how they are working with content that's being put on the website so the meaning they're looking at the sentiments that are being expressed so on so forth so it's going beyond what I have written here it's changing and so we also need to keep our websites in a similar way make it you know more relevant to these engines and the other things you know use URLs that are search engines and friendlies the phrases that people search for you should have it in your URL in your content add your website to google business it's free you can do it link back to your website from other places you know if you know of other people or other places where you post the content to link back to your website and there are a lot of you know places that you can mention your website and link back to it and then submit your website to google search console it's also free just log in there just submit your URL the URL that you own you can submit and that the search google search what we call the crawlers they crawl through your website rank your pages and make it visible to other people keep your website content updated don't you know old content you remove keep it updated also use URLs that are easy to remember like apcw or this last service if you can always remember that and so and we also shared last week a little bit about our websites how it's been optimized and we've taken you know optimize our websites for certain phrases for which we want to rank very highly and on the world right so uh let's say emails I figured did we come with emails last week or we did we did a little emails okay so I think we just stop should we stop here all right let's pick up from here emails are an important way to keep in touch with people right and you can keep people informed sending them emails now of course the first step is to collect email addresses so you if you have a subscription form a small form where they get into the email and they subscribe you can add them to a list I'll show you the list we use um or so you can give you know if they want to subscribe to your weekly emails we send out a weekly email about our sermon they do that our first time visitors we have different forms different places contact points where people can give their mobile number email address and so on so we have several of these on our website first time their first time visitor we send them here they can enter their details if they want to volunteer again they enter their details so these are all different touch points where we are collecting people's contact information and it gets added to our email list so we send emails and emails regularly but don't send too many don't send email every day you know so our rule is two plus one that means every week maximum you send two emails plus one is an extra one which it's like on some special cases we will send an extra email right so example if there's a funeral or something or change in location or something like that then that's the plus one the additional one that we send otherwise these our emails are just maximum two emails to our community in a nowadays you can a lot of graphics that can be used along with the email keep it edit free keep your emails mobile friendly because a lot of people actually read their email on their mobile devices and use meaningful subject lines and we get them get their attention and also you can target your email like who you want to send it to you know if it's from a men's conference send it to the men if it's a ladies conference send it to the ladies etc things like that and you know and and look for optimal days like somewhere in the middle of the week is good because beginning of the week everybody's very visiting end of the week they're getting ready to come back to service and worship so somewhere in the middle of the week is a good point and then give people an option to unsubscribe they don't want to receive it they should be free to opt out of that so we always include that now use so use what we refer to as a list manager where so that means when you're sending an email you don't know you're not manually doing this but you have a software that manages your lists and you can send it from there just quickly show it to you so again this is an open source software php list let me just take a moment to share that with you now i got to just a minute let me just share my screen i'll just quickly show you the what i'm what i'm talking about so we use we use what we refer to as php list so this is our php list now this is where we manage our email from where we send out an email so it's just it's an open source software so you can have subscribers i mean these are people so when they subscribe through our website they get added in directly they get added into this mail list manager so let's say right now there are 37,477 people or email IDs right now if they are blacklisted that means they have opted out or their email bounced back you know maybe it's a bad email whatever so then out of that sorry this number has been blacklisted means we won't send it to them they either unsubscribe it or whatever you know so emails won't go to them so let's say about 33,000 effectively are there and then we actually can create lists that means you can put them in categories so for example and this is this is an example here we have you know by locations ministers in india and put two lists here but internal outreach outreach churches these people are in hindi ministers worldwide youth bible college etc so these are categories and let me see here so when people sign up on a website they go into these groups these are we used to have clean programs so those responses there but i think we have let me see here i'm looking for the sunday sermon we have a list called sunday sermon which so these are all first time visitors by year so these are people who come here and publication let me just look for sunday sermons so weekly sermon list it's about 14,000 people on in this particular list so basically when we set you know every week sunday or monday of every week we'll send an email to this particular list these are people who will receive that email and and you can see what happens when you send an email so it's called a campaign so we'll see some of the campaigns that are just over so this part of the spoken word was sent out and was sent out there no this statistics part is right now not working we've got a problem with our latest version but usually what'll happen is when somebody opens it up we'll get a correct count here so this one is not working so we're not seeing the correct statistics we have some problem with it but the email was sent out to about 14,000 people and it took about 11 hours 10 10 minutes to spool this particular email to all these people and we normally when if this part is working we'll be able to see you know how many actually read what comes back etc so basically when we set the email up here we can you know just click a button and it'll go to all the lists and we can combine many lists so the email can be sent to more than one person so this is our standard format of the email so we give a certain title we have a standard format so people are sending it they know what to do this is the content of that it's again following a standard format they enter these details the footer is standard so they this and then they send it we can select lots of lists and send it so this is more like an automated way for us to send email so just click the button and it sends it out to 14,000 people now when there is a different kind of announcement then we combine these lists so we can send it you want to send it to everybody all the you know all the 37,000 whatever that come for us number of people we can send it so we can you know send the message send the list the email to everybody on our list right so that's the advantage of using a list php list you can you know you can select what you want and use it okay let me let's go back to the pdf all right I clicked the wrong thing all right so that was our email list manager where you know we through which we send out send out emails now initially maybe when you have 50 email IDs or a hundred email IDs it's easy it's okay to do it manually that you know you put it in groups of 10 or 20 or and keep sending it but when it's beyond that it gets a little cumbersome to do it manually so you need an email list manager like this to send now of course um internally when we are you know we communicate a lot with all our staff and all our people internally lots of emails come people from the church keep sending emails so now there's a lot of other personal email communications that happen that is also very useful the only point is that sometimes it gets too much so you know right now I personally personally I'm not I I'm not able to keep up with all emails that come to me personally it says too many every day um so we have other people handling a lot of the emails so for the church we have three or four people who handle different email IDs so when emails are sent it goes through other individuals and they are part of our communications team so somebody has those emails that are for publications that are for book requests that are for they are general contact email they come in for prayer for testimony those kinds of things our bible college and bible college support so there are different people handling those different emails so we have created different different different email IDs and different people handling those emails but the emails that come directly to me is also a lot and it's very difficult to keep up with all of those emails so I have to be you know I have to keep time to try and read them and try to respond to some some of them um another important part these days is text messaging so we talked a little bit about emails um broadcast communications um another part is text messaging sms and messaging through messaging apps there used to be a time when sms was a big deal um when we used to send a lot of sms's and all of that but then we all had a lot of uh government at least in India a lot of government regulations came in and we could not send short sms's freely to people uh because they they required that people have to subscribe and all of those kinds of things and so we moved from sending sms's to whatsapp messages um so uh and I just you know so basically a large number of people use whatsapp and we use that and of course there are other you know messaging apps as well that people use but we do a lot of our message messaging through whatsapp so we uh that keep these messages simple you can use graphics and videos of course you know people can opt in and opt out and we use uh bulk messaging um service provider we used to use sms service providers and we stopped doing that because of restrictions now we use uh bulk messaging on whatsapp so we can broadcast messages to people so remember we collect their email id and their passwords uh not passwords email id and their mobile numbers and similar the mobile numbers go go to uh a list mobile number list again we segment them over there that means um if they are uh regular members if they are visitors if they are you know different uh leaders etc etc so we have different um mobile number lists so we can send broadcast messages to targeted groups so usually it's our own people touch community that we send messages just to keep them informed you know about things example location or uh an event that's coming up for which we want them to register we send them messages on whatsapp so that's a good thing and again we follow the same rule a maximum two uh messages a week uh but not more only if it's necessary we don't send messages all the time but when there's a need we can send a whatsapp message but maximum two messages don't send more than two others there in people who feel that we are intruding into their time and space so we keep limit that to say so we use that but use it carefully use it meaningfully so just to give one example from back then like we're sending an announcement about about a song release in hindi this is how it goes a little graphic some text link to the youtube and so um the advantages of using uh multi-day messaging is you know it's very easy people a lot of people will check emails they may not or they may check at some other time but on their phones people check immediately or quite frequently so it's it's it's highly likely that they're going to see it um just follow some good practices when sending uh messages if you're using static images don't make them too big uh keep the dimensions that are optimal typical these are the typical nine and nine to sixteen ratio so you kind of fit one of these in uh use jpeg file format um don't use too many colors and don't add too much text keep it nice and simple and easy similarly if you're doing video if you're sending a video or a link to a video remember to make sure it's not too big keep the video short don't you know send a one-hour sermon people that they can go watch on youtube uh again these are optimal ratio for your video viewing right so just follow good practices when you're doing that another area now just changing another area where you can be used we can engage with people digitally is through virtual meetings so this is very good and especially we i mean a lot of us got used to this now as we went through the pandemic where we can connect with people online through video conferencing conferencing tools problems or slack or who will meet a lot of other conferencing tools are available and it's nice that you know we can connect with people so right now for example this class is on google meet and others are connected to the class it's a good thing that they can at least participate in the class uh and share so sometimes i may meet when when people want to meet with me one on one and we may just do a you know a zoom meet especially if you're somewhere far away then it makes it convenient saves a lot of time so i just get you a call and we meet just to be shared and so on so whether it's meeting with one person or meeting with a group of people makes you use of these video conferencing tools aren't a good thing uh we also when we do our weekend schools we make our weekend schools available on zoom so people far away can actually participate in the weekend school even if they can't come in person they can at least share in a fair amount of what's being taught and participate in it so webinars are a good thing to do just some general guidelines here when we are you know using video conferencing make sure lighting is good um and you know if it's a private meeting keep it private don't make it public use passcodes for people to connect uh people allow other people to share screen uh and when you're not speaking you might think all of us are kind of familiar with these good practices in video conferencing let's change a few more thoughts here now the advantage of digital engagement is that we can reach globally you know we can we can be in one part of the world and we can serve people all over the world and one of those ways is to use content distribution platforms so now we have platforms through which we can distribute content whether it's in the digital format so whether it's ebooks podcasts and videos and many of us are familiar with videos youtube and other channels but you know we're just mentioning that so let's talk about ebooks that means books that are in digital format whether they are in pdf format or with an e-pub or a mobile format different formats are there most common of course for us for people are the pdf format and our books and anyone can use these but i'm just mentioning that our books are distributed on all of these platforms i think we i don't know the exact number but i think it's somewhere like 30 or 34 platforms through which our books are distributed globally so it's a nice thing that we are here in Bangalore but we can distribute those pdf not only through our website but through so many of these distribution channels so people sitting anywhere in the world whatever they are comfortable about whether it's kindle or iBooks or google books or bands and noble or whatever google play books whatever they are comfortable they will find the other books and they'll be able to read it so you can actually distribute your digital content your books on so many of these this is a few of these channels and there are many more that you could make your books available and becomes available globally and people can find it and read it similarly for audio if you want to do podcasts you can do this now google podcasts this is then they're kind of taking it down and they're now moving integrating it with youtube music but you know whatever's there can just be moved so you know the audio that conversations audio files that you want to release you can release it through online channels right so google podcasts or youtube music apple podcasts what you find so many so many channels are there and beef set again are some and audios are distributed on all of these channels again in addition to our website so people have access to it so whatever they are comfortable with they can listen to the podcast now the fact is all of these spaces are crowded meaning there are literally hundreds of thousands probably millions of people releasing digital content whether it's books or audio or video literally millions are releasing content so it's important that these should be searchable people should find that i mentioned that a little later on all of these distribution channels whether you're distributing your pbs or you're distributing your audio files or you're distributing videos they should be searchable and and and we will talk about how we know how these algorithms actually present your content to people who are looking for similar content right so we'll talk about that a little later but now just understand that we have all of these channels are accessible to people and you can release your content on this whether it's your church sermons or your own podcasts or the books that you write and we are also familiar with the distribution channels for videos youtube is the biggest that we're all familiar with a huge huge audience Bimeo is also good it's almost on in terms of features it's pretty almost compatible to youtube and then of course you know we have other places that Facebook and Instagram where you can share your videos that that you do a lot of other channels of course right so we are familiar with these so the point is that you know um we today in in digital engagement we've got numerous options you can create content digital content the sermon can be in digital format and you can push it out you can distribute it to lots and lots of people on through these digital platforms and so many of them are available for free okay the last thing is a church app now at the moment we've taken down our apc church app because we we were using a service provider they got bought over and a lot of transition happened we are rebuilding our apc church app but the church app is going to become a very important part of what we do that we're going to be moving a lot of our engagement from the traditional website to the app because we you know people are getting more and more comfortable using apps on their phone and you're doing a lot of things through an app that's running on their phone so i won't be able to show you about our church app right now but this is something of focus a lot of focus and effort and what we're doing so you can build a nice app for your church and there are platforms available or you can get people to build it for you and engage through the church app so these are some ideas for digital engagement what we've talked about is yeah you can use websites emails messaging multimedia messaging services you can use a distribution of digital content through in different formats pdfs audio video distributed you can also use an app as another form of engagement right any questions on this before we go to our next chapter which i think is on social sorry i'm going to share with you some guidelines for graphics and videos and then we get into social media any questions so far any thoughts everybody's with me so far okay so i'm just giving you an exposure to various things you're not basically getting into all the technical details but these are options and and you can think about you know if you create two ways to do a podcast or use any of these other channels and it's it's a wonderful way to reach people let me know just talk a little bit about some some practices that we try to follow for our graphics and videos so that's lesson number 12 just some guidelines right and i've also given you some links there that you can go online to to you know to learn about how to how to use these effectively now remember it's it's not enough just to produce something it's got to be good it's got to be done well for people to make use of it and to engage with the content so that's why we have guidelines for graphics and videos so thinking about generally from any form of media try to you know stay current with the what's happening the the way it's being done today the style the the look the feel how people are doing so we need to stay current with the latest trends in terms of how things are being done without compromising right the word and how we are what we are communicating so it's a communication process when you're using a graphic so video you're actually communicating to people so be clear about the message you want to convey and to whom you are speaking our fonts using simple readable fonts keep the fonts very simple don't you know use fancy things if you don't understand keep color choices that relevant sensitive and and you don't overcrowded with colors don't put all kinds of colors in it because people are paying attention to all these things they're seeing all this so you know it's not just a random mix of colors there has to be a liberal use of space don't overcrowd your material video and and understand visual hierarchy that means you know when somebody sees something their eyes will go first to what's biggest right the heaviest and then they will begin to read the smaller smaller things so what is stated in the heaviest must be impactful right so for example if you're looking at the speed here you see that this is big right so you're going to read this first what is a general guidelines using media so that's what will you read first then after that you start reading the smaller points so the heaviest should be the most important when you're saying something then first down right um graphic design there are lots and lots of different software packages that are available we use Adobe Creative Cloud the entire suite of things our team uses it there are also free applications today can go on and so on and a lot of these also do AI generated images which are interesting that we can tap into if appropriate some guidelines when you're working with graphics you know keep the style keep it contemporary keep it relevant by staying true to the word be careful of the images that you use because you're a church or a ministry images must be cleaned it must not be suggested questionable inappropriate violent indecent or provocative right so be very careful be thoughtful about the images that you're using because we are a church or a ministry the font and style it must be clear and legible don't use things that will strain the eye they can't read but just you know what's on it there has to be uniformity so try to keep things uniform across all expressions whether it's graphics and video or other formats keep the font uniform so people see you know what we call as a brand or a certain way in which this organization is communicating so that consistency is important and then also wherever possible use it use faces of pictures that are relatable to the audience right so wherever possible i'm not saying it's always possible wherever possible the faces that you show should be relevant relatable to your targeting of your primary audience similarly when you're creating videos be careful about the images videos and songs don't put anything that's inappropriate because people are going to ask hey how come you use this kind of an image or video so you have to think about it very carefully and you know don't use if you're in doubt check with the pastor say hey is it okay is not okay so on and and if you're using people from the congregation show them a good light and don't don't show bad things and all that because you know it's it's being public you don't want to do something that's not appropriate and be careful don't show you know things that could be violent or could put people at risk like children doing jumps or things that they know be careful on that sometimes unknowingly people include those things in their videos that they're doing and then there's a reaction from people uh of course you can be noticed that keep your video short and depending on the platform in which it's being released you make subtitles available and nowadays a lot of these are automatically generated by the platform uh use transcripts so you know again this is a nice thing these days all of this is automatically generated so in our sermons on our website they just choose the transcript option there's automatically vimeo generates a transcript youtube generates a transcript so that that's very useful uh where you're using audio voices keep the voices clear uh it should be exciting uh the voice re re-trades the message that is coming across through the graphics and through the video and again when you're using graphics and video use consistent fonts and also we standardize a lot of things for instance um when we mention date time venue we we we use a standard format like so we use short forms like month for the day of the week uh we follow uh 12 or 2 p.m so it's easy for people to understand we don't use the 24 hour format and then the way we put the month day month time in here you know it's it's something that uh we we follow a standard format and we keep it international so we don't use Indian format or American format or because the dates are all a different format so we intensely put day like Tuesday January 23rd so Tuesday January 23rd you know uh the year right so then because people can be looking at it from any part of the world so it should be clear it shouldn't be any confusion oh is that date an Indian format is that day and you know uh what what format so to use an international format which if it's clear to anybody from any part of the world uh it makes it easy so we should be mindful of this because a lot of busy content is available to everybody right and uh we make sure that the venue where the event is happening is stated very clearly we can give them a google map link and so on and where are possible use faces of people are eligible to the audience and be sensitive you know if it's pictures of people from the church take consent especially when it's children or teenagers take consent we're excited there are a lot of places where you can get free free graphics with your responsibility so I just listed given a big list of things where you can download some maybe licensed but many of them are free and you can get graphics and videos from these websites if you would like to use them the last point which I had mentioned earlier is that whenever you're creating graphics and videos remember it's like a huge ocean of content that's out there in the digital world so it's important that what you put out is searchable and it is presented to the people who would be looking for those kinds of content so how do we make that happen here's some simple things that we can do first of all use type what titles do you use for the videos because the search engines start here they look at your title so the title should be relevant it should be something that people would search for and a use of course title should accurately represent the content you can't put some random put different content no should represent what it is but it should be searchable and then you also use relevant hashtags now which tell basically saying this is what this content is about right so use relevant hashtags again very important is the description so there is a description section to a lot of these videos and images what you put there is going to help search engines present the content to people who are interested right so even if you're using images how can your images be you know ranked high so one is use high quality customize the file name the text on the image and the file name are important so you use something that that would be you know searchable use give it and don't tell you know just what image one dot jpg no use a file name that's intelligent and something to help in your searches right use relevant keywords on the text of the image use alt tags because in some places that's used rather than the image itself to present it to people and and better or possibly try to host these images on your site that's for your site similar thing for videos you know if there's a transcript it'll help there's a thumbnail image that'll help what title and description you're giving for the video will help and then so if you're putting the video on a page you know focus make focus that video in that page and don't put the video out in so many places then google this and it sees that it's just duplicate content so understand you know basically just a quick idea here how all this happens there's millions of videos out there millions so google has to suggest a few to the user of course there will be google is stacking this user's behavior the history and the context and then it's going to you know in in in literally in milliseconds pull out of this millions of videos and rank them and then present a few to the to the user how does it happen well keywords are important these keywords are what you put in your file name your title your description your scripts so that's how is there enough of course nowadays it'll actually go through the content of video thumbnails so you know use compelling keywords and then there is the hashtags that you use that are used to also rank or link the web that video to relevant to what's relevant to the user so use hashtags intelligently and yeah so here just ideas to you know to make these videos or to promote your videos online and so on so just i think the things that would be very important or useful for us to understand is that what you put along with the video in addition to the content of the video of course there are times and so on will will enable the search engine all about them to take it and present it to people of course the user's behavior is also the history and their interest is also important okay but what we can do is the in the first six seven things are things that we can do every time you post a video take care of these things and then from there the video is presented to users the last point that i want to mention is that whenever you're using songs make sure that you give credits and so on some other bands or copyrighted songs and i've just given a sample here of how you can give a credit to a song as part of your description right um details for credits uh so you say credits song artists so on so it a pc worship team may be singing this song but then this this is what will be in that description of the video that means we are saying that our team is singing a song by these people so we are acknowledging their copyrights to the song we are just using it so when you do this then youtube will not block the video that has the song if we don't do this then in parts of the world where the copyright is important that video will be blocked people won't be able to see the video it'll be blocked by youtube because of copyright infringement so just keep this in mind so the best thing is if you're using any of these songs when you want the video to be made visible give credits in the description of the video and it'll keep things safe all right any questions so far all right so um let's take a break and then when we come back i will spend a little bit of time talking about social media right again this is a big area it has you know lots and lots of people are doing it so how can a church or a ministry just engage with social media platform just some thoughts on that and then people pause for today right so let's go for a break come back in 10 minutes then we'll talk about social media and then we'll close for the day right see you in 10 minutes thanks


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