All right, welcome in. It's another edition of FanDuel. Hurry up. I'm Joe Ranieri, joined alongside Jim Sonnis here of Number Fire. As we take a look here of the free agency winners, and Lord knows there have been a few of them here. Jim, it's been a very interesting, hey, let's open up for business, and let's go completely crazy in the NFL. As it is every single year, Joe, it's definitely been an interesting time for sure. A lot of offensive linemen getting paid. Big trades already, which I think is super interesting too. So, you know, we've got a sports void right now. The NFL is feeling that pretty well, and it's nice to have a little bit of downtime to actually focus on the NFL here. So I think that this actually came at a pretty solid time, and I'm guessing that the players' pocketbooks would agree with that as well. I can guarantee you, yes, their pocketbooks are happy. So let's dive into a couple of players here. Right off the bat, some winners. I'll start with Kyler Murray going into his second year with the Arizona Cardinals. I believe he should be celebrating the addition, the latest addition to the Cardinals team. Should he not? As a rookie, was throwing footballs to 36-year-old Larry Fitzgerald, and it banged up Christian Kirk. Christian Kirk is a really good wide receiver, but that ankle injury was not fully healed the entire year.  That is a pretty major upgrade here for this wide receiver corpse, and it also helps that Kyler Murray did run quite a bit last year. Now, you look back to last year, the Cardinals weren't quite as past happy as you would have thought, given that they were an air raid offense. They weren't quite as fast as they were, at least at the beginning of the year, but now they should be more efficient because DeAndre Hopkins will be in town. That can allow Cliff Kingsbury to run his offense and be fully realized within this air raid scheme. That is a great thing for Kyler Murray if it leads to additional volume and additional efficiency as well. All that bodes well for him for this year. So you give him DeAndre Hopkins, that increases his efficiency. There could be additional volume as well. If they feel more confident in Kyler Murray as a passer, those are tremendous things for him for fantasy football. The only downside with Kyler Murray is that he was already pretty expensive. He was the quarterback six on fantasy football calculator based on early drafts so far, going in about the sixth round, and that's a pretty high cost. But I think that with DeAndre Hopkins now in town, it further legitimizes that cost for Kyler Murray. So if you are someone who does spend a high draft pick on quarterbacks, Kyler Murray is worth that selection right now with this edition of DeAndre Hopkins. They also could add more via the draft. They still have the eighth overall pick there, whether it be an offensive lineman or another wide receiver at that point. So the situation for Murray is better and it could get even more better as we advance further along in the all seasons. So Kyler Murray a big winner and really legitimizing himself as a top six selection at quarterback for 2020. Yeah, DeAndre, it should be just fine as long as Cliff Kingsbury doesn't screw it up for everybody else. All that talent, get it done, Cliff, get it done. All right, let's head over to the Buffalo Bill, shall we, Josh Allen? He got himself a new toy as well over this free agency period. Yeah, he certainly did and it's a good one and Stefan digs and that's definitely a big addition for Josh Allen. Now, based on what we've seen from Josh Allen each of the first two years in the league, he's exciting, he's fun to watch, but you can still have questions about his talent. His efficiency has not been good. Last year he still ranked 27th in per drop back efficiency based on number fires metrics. And efficiency is huge for quarterbacks in fantasy football. And I had concerns about whether or not he'd be able to duplicate what he did in fantasy for this year despite the presence of his rushing. But that was while throwing to John Brown and Cole Beasley. Now you give him John Brown and Stefan digs as his top two targets. And even if Josh Allen were the exact same quarterback next year as he was last year, his situation is now so much better that you would still expect his fantasy production and his production overall to take up. So maybe Josh Allen regresses a bit from where he was last year. That's totally possible. He can still sustain his fantasy numbers just because the situation is better with Stefan digs. Quarterback output is wholly dependent on the situation around them. We saw it with Jared Goff earlier in his career and not comparing Josh Allen to Jared Goff because the two were very different as prospects coming out. But Jared Goff showed the value of good surrounding talent. And Josh Allen's surrounding talent is better now than it was in the past. He is currently quarterback 11 on fantasy football calculator. I think that is fully fine. I would expect his cost to go up with this addition to Stefan digs. But I think that's okay. He gives a lot of rushing juice. His efficiency may now be better than it was before. And there's always that upside too that maybe he does wind up getting a little bit better. So I think the floor for Josh Allen is really good. The ceiling is getting better here with Stefan digs. So Josh Allen already someone else is okay taking where he was going. But I think that even as the cost goes up, he's still worth it with Stefan digs now in town. You know, I can't wait to see what happens the first time that he sees a wide open Stefan digs and then all of a sudden runs for 15 yards instead of throwing it to him. I can't wait to see what that looks like. But listen, the bottom line is weapons are important in the National Football League and the Houston Texans next up got themselves a new weapon in a running back. And that running back would be David Johnson. Yeah, David Johnson, his situation changed about as radically as it possibly could for fantasy in the course of a couple of hours. Early Monday, they tagged Kenny and Drake that Arizona Cardinals did, meaning he would still be around. David Johnson's fantasy value at that point was pretty much non-existent. Then he gets traded to the Houston Texans. Lamar Miller and Carlos Hyder, both free agents and suddenly he's on a team that has a lot of opportunity up for grabs. So David Johnson go is from being pretty much dead in the water for fantasy to being a pretty legitimate fantasy football asset. And I would expect to be the main running back on this Houston Texans team. Now watching David Johnson last year was admittedly quite painful. He did not look very good. There is a reason they traded for Kenny and Drake. We have to remember that injuries played a big role in that because before David Johnson's back injury which happened before his ankle injury, he was kind of playing okay. He had a 42% rushing success rate through the first five games that's left roughly leak average based on number fires metrics. And it fell to 30% after that back injury and got even worse once he had the ankle injury. So if we get a fully healthy David Johnson on this Texans team, I would expect the volume to be there. We can still have concerns around David Johnson's talent because he is entering, I believe is age 29 season so he's not a spring chicken anymore. And this Texans offense will take a step back with no Deandre Hopkins in town but opportunity tops everything in fantasy football. And on this new team, I would expect David Johnson to get a lot of volume. So it's a really good situation for David Johnson. I can't think of a way this would have played out better for him that Texans offensive line played a lot better last year than it has in years past. Johnson, now healthy, has Deshaun Watson there. I think things are looking up for him even though we could be pessimistic about this Texans team on the whole. I do think too, Jim, that I don't think we have the whole story. I know a lot of people up in arms here but I do believe when it's all said and done there was something else going on then just, hey, you know, want to be great if we swapped Hopkins for John? Like, no, I know a lot of people, Bill O'Brien will look at him and go, ooh, Bill, but I tend to believe there is going to be something else there that we did not know about. But we do have another running back, of course, that loved that move for David Johnson. Again, with the Arizona Cardinals and this time we're looking at Kenyon Drake who's got to be ecstatic about this opportunity as well. Absolutely, because not only did he show up last year, but now he actually gets a better situation because with the Andre Hopkins in town we can expect this Cardinals offense to improve and what that does is it increases the touchdown expectation for everybody in this offense and that does include Kenyon Drake who had a tremendous role down the stretch last year for the Cardinals. He averaged 15.4 rushes and 4.4 targets per game after joining Arizona last year. And now I would not expect those numbers to go up even though David Johnson is now gone and has just chased Edmonds there besides Kenyon Drake because Kenyon Drake, even Alabama and in his early days with the Dolphins was usually used as a change of pace type back. I'm not expecting to be a 20 carry, eight target type guy. Most people are, but I would not expect that workload to go up. But if we assume that Kenyon Drake's workload remains the same, gets about 15 carries and five targets per game, that's a very legitimate workload for a running back in fantasy football. That offensive line in Arizona played pretty well from a run blocking perspective last year. They could beef that up even more in the draft as well with that eighth overall pick and now they add Giandre Hopkins into the mix. An additional year of Kyler Murray, this is all really good. I think this is all great for Kenyon Drake. Extra volume, the volume short up with David Johnson being gone, potentially extra touchdowns for the offense. He was a sixth round pick in redraft before this trade. I would expect that to go up. But even with that being the case, he is still a player on which you want to buy high because the situation as things stand right now looks tremendous for fantasy in 2020. Sometimes it's just a matter of being in the right place at the right time. It wasn't right for him in Miami, but it seems to be heading in the right direction. They are certainly with Arizona. Gonna be a lot of fun to see the kind of year that he has and we do of course have, there's some other collateral damage. Well, maybe not, but how about Will Fuller? He now all of a sudden heads into the spotlight and it's funny, Jim, I almost pulled a hamstring just saying his name, but Will Fuller and the Houston Texans. Gonna be a number one now, is he not? Yeah, at least when he's out there, which like you said, may not be all that often, but when Will Fuller is healthy, he's in a pretty good position. It's always a good thing for a wide receiver in fantasy when a guy with the usage of DeAndre Hopkins leads town. It leaves town because those targets have to go somewhere and a lot of them could go Will Fuller's direction given how good he has been when he has been on the field in the NFL. Last year in the games that Will Fuller played, he had 23% of the Texans total targets and 37% of their targets, at least 16 yards downfield. Those are really good numbers to begin with, but with Hopkins leaving town, that vacates 29% of their overall targets and 29% of their deep targets in the games that Will Fuller played. That's a lot of opportunity. Now, maybe not all that goes to Will Fuller, but what could happen is he could get some more underneath targets, some more high leverage, some more, I shouldn't say some more high percentage targets, which would increase his floor. Will Fuller has always been a high ceiling guy for fantasy because he can get big plays, he can score touchdowns, the ceiling has never been a question, the floor has. But now, if he gets additional targets and additional safer targets with DeAndre Hopkins out of town, that's going to amp up his floor. So from a fantasy perspective, what we have is basically a safer version of Will Fuller than we had in the past when he is healthy. That ceiling will still be very good. But if the floor gets better, he becomes a lot more valuable of a fantasy commodity because you know what to expect on a week by week basis. Will Fuller, I think that the injuries are a legitimate concern, but those injuries will also help keep the costs tied to him in fantasy intact. I don't think we're going to see a major, major spike in the draft costs because people are so scared of the injuries. That's good for me. If Will Fuller gets hurt, I'm not getting a zero out of my wide receiver slot. I can use someone else in there. So I don't think it's as big of a negative to draft an injury risk like him, knowing that I can use at least a replacement level guy to fill in that production. I want that Will Fuller production will get when he's out there. I think it's super valuable. I think it could go up this year. So Will Fuller, yeah, it's scary. It is risky, but I think it's worth it with all the volume DeAndre Hopkins is left on the table. And there's just something about having that guy that can take the top off a secondary to have him lining up healthy on the outside. The ultimate home run hitter for any team offensively. He stays healthy, always somebody that you've got to be very well aware of where they are on the field. Defenses, yeah, a lot of headaches, a lot of sweating overnight going on with Will Fuller, which brings us of course to one of our final winners here of free agency. How about Adam Thielen now, picking up the pieces left by Stefan Diggs who is on his way to the Buffalo Bills in Josh Allen. What do you think about Adam Thielen this year and the Minnesota Vikings? Yeah, it's the exact same thought process we had with Will Fuller, except outside of 2019, not as many injuries for Adam Thielen as with Will Fuller. Now, I would expect the offensive efficiency to decline for both the Texans and for the Vikings given they did lose star-wide receivers, but that's not as big of a concern for these guys as it is for their quarterbacks into Sean Watson and Kirk Cousins. So Adam Thielen figures moving to really good volume and when Thielen was healthy last year, that volume was there as well. Before his injury, Thielen had 26% of the Vikings overall targets and 52% of their deep targets. We had gotten that for the full season. Adam Thielen would have been among the best fantasy-wide receivers in the entire league because that is tremendous volume to get. He also plays in Doors, which I love and now there's no more Stefan Diggs. Their depth chart behind Adam Thielen is basically the shining with the elevator doors opening. It is not good outside of Kyle Rudolph Smith at tight end. They're going to have to throw the ball somewhere and I'd expect a lot of those targets to go to Adam Thielen. Now, I would expect the Vikings to add a wide receiver through the draft. They have picks 22 and 25. There will be good wide receivers there. They're going to add to this room, but Thielen is a known commodity. He has been with Kirk Cousins now for two years. He's developed a rapport with him and the Vikings can build around this guy as a wide receiver. Adam Thielen is currently a fourth-round pick in fantasy for next year. I am very okay paying that. I would expect his cost to go up as well, but as with Kenny and Drake, that's okay. There is a reason for that cost to go up. We can still buy into it despite the increased cost. So for both Kenny and Drake and Adam Thielen, I know that I'm going to have to pay more, but I'm okay with that because of what they bring to the table and because of the volume I would expect them to get this upcoming year. Adam Thielen has shown in the past he can be a top end fantasy wide receiver. That would not be surprised if he does that once again this year. And remember, Minnesota fans, you got a number one draft pick in return for a heading out digs. This draft is loaded with wide receivers. So not saying you're going to get a step on digs, but having that number one pick in the asset, of course, will go a long way. Adam Thielen and whoever they draft in all likelihood will be just fine. All right, Jim Sonnis, number five. My friend, thank you so very much for sharing with us the winners here of this early free agency in the NFL. We'll be back tomorrow, of course, we're losers. So Jim, appreciate the time. Thanks so much for stopping by. Thank you as well. I appreciate it. And hopefully the rest of free agency is as fun as it's been so far. Appreciate it. All right, I'm Joe Ranieri. This is FanDuel. Hurry up, we'll be back tomorrow with the free agency losers. Enjoy your day.


called Bridges. Cloud Bridges is a web-based application. It uses browsers and web servers. We have a website, obviously, CloudBridger.es where you can get the project source. It's under the GNU GPL. It's based on an earlier project called OSocial, which is made by a guy called Victor Coustonobler, but he's from France. He can't be here today. I'm Edwin. I'm from the UK and my biography is on the FOSDEM website. I'm going to start off by saying what the problem is that CloudBridgers was trying to solve before I explained how it solves it, but it's about social networks and the problems people have been having with social network fatigue, having to keep joining new social network sites and not being able to move their information between sites. We're obviously not the first people to consider this problem. There's a group of people who have a project called Data Portability and they've been looking into questions like this. They believe obviously you should own your data, and so their answer to these questions are that you should be able to import data into a social network or a site like that and be able to export it out again. The typical information is who your friends are, which you have to keep finding on each new site. Some of the ideas they've had for this portability is having an aggregator where you'd have to give out your password to a site and that would screen scrape all the websites and aggregate all your information together, which isn't very secure. Or if everybody was a network where you'd have a blog and that becomes your social network profile, you'd have no privacy that way. Or a network of networks where someone would create a new social network which came with the ability to talk to other social networks with an inter-network communication protocol, but that doesn't address the issue of already existing social networks. Or a social network subscribe model where you have one host that has the canonical copy of all your data and all the other social networks subscribe to that to get updates. But I don't think existing social networks will want to do that. Our requirements are these things. Users should be able to stay on their current social network if they wish or switch to another social network at no cost. So it'll be just like having an email account. But this is just our opinion. We're just trying one possible solution. So fortunately, a standard has come along called OpenSocial, which is published by Google. Google's social network use it along with MySpace, Hi5 and some others, notably not Facebook, but something which social networks are implementing slowly. It should allow an application writer to have access to nearly all the profile information which is stored on the social network accounts and features are becoming available over time. It's sort of in a beta stage right now. It's version 0.7. The technology it uses is XML for the UI. It's got embedded HTML in it and JavaScript for the interaction with the user and with the site. It's kind of a missed chance for data portability. Google haven't really given the sort of functions you'd need to implement data portability as people were wanting. For instance, it doesn't provide calls between social networks and it doesn't allow a site or a client to subscribe to data which is on the social network. It's only once you've actually logged into your profile page that these things can be activated. But things have been progressing since then. Although it's not designed for data portability, it does let data out in a standardized way. So that means that a sort of data portability is possible along the idea of whatever isn't impossible is mandatory. Victor saw that social networking data could be opened up through this. So he coded an app using open social APIs, made it known online and he got 1,000 users over time. And then later I joined and we started working on the second generation design which became cloud bridges. Also because this was being popular on news sites, someone asked us to give our information about it and we were interviewed. We said that there are problems with social networks right now and that data portability did look like a good way to solve those problems and it was already having some successes and the article was positive about us. So how did O's social work? It was just like any other app to install on a social network page. Once it's installed you could press a button and then our open social website would receive your profile information and your list of friends and convert them into open formats so you could browse them from our site in an open way. And we also had flash visualizations of your social graph so you could navigate who your friends are and who their friends are. One thing to note about the technology is an open social implementation provides a container, they call it, for apps which is the base libraries, JavaScript libraries, for you to install your application into and that provides methods like fetch person and make request. It's not purely JavaScript otherwise there would be cross-site scripting issues. You make these requests to the server itself and then the server makes requests out to the third party. So how is CloudBridge different? We added security which is obviously important. There are three levels of privacy. You can have data which is secret which means we don't store it at all. Friends only which means we only disclose it to people you say are your friends and public which means it's available on the front page of our website. We had a concept of expiring links where you'd be able to click a link which is only valid for a certain period of time where you could see people's information and that meant you'd be able to revoke people's as you're being your friends so the URL wouldn't keep working. Those links are available in a friends list in the application itself. Version 0.6 of the spec included the ability to sign requests to stop spoofing from happening which some of the earlier widgets had problems with. There had been some problems. There was the Scobal incident involving Robert Scobal. He has this Scobalizer blog. He was testing an app which is similar to ours for a social network website called Plaxo. He famously has 5,000 friends on Facebook which is the limit that you can have on Facebook and Facebook detected that this app was trying to download and leech all his friends and they had some automatic block which cancelled his account. He was later reinstated after a lot of complaining but he had to promise he wouldn't do that sort of thing again so there is resistance from social networks to this sort of idea. This is what the technology is capable of and the open social implementations are just sandboxes right now so we haven't hit any problems yet. Let me go through a use case. Imagine Alice and Bob work together with Alice on MySpace and Bob on Hi5 which is sort of a typical situation. She wants her co-workers to know who her MySpace friends are but Bob doesn't. She installs our cloud bridges app and she tells the app her name to appear on our website so she says that as public data. The app asks her who her friends are and so she can say Bob on Hi5 she's not limited to people on MySpace and so cloud bridges stores this as an Alice-to-Bob relationship in the database. She says that that relationship is friends only so only someone who she says is her friend can see that and then she invites Bob to install cloud bridges on his account on MySpace on Hi5 so he does so but he decides to keep everything secret and he marks Alice as a friend but a secret friend then when he checks his cloud bridges friends list the app sees the Bob-to-Alice friendship and so it adds Alice's name to his list but because it also knows that Alice has a relationship to Bob it adds Alice's name becomes a link to a page on cloud bridges which contains her unique number the current timestamp and a hash so that the link would expire and that contains her personal information which only Bob can see because he's been set as a friend. I'm now going to do a demonstration hopefully. Here is our website or one of the pages you can select this is the way that you normally install on app on one of these things this is the sandbox version so you want to add the application add the application there are some people I've already added actually and then you'll be able to add someone from a different social network Hi5 add friend now add it to your I have to refresh the page there's that person in the list and then you can see them in cloud bridges page with this expiring link and there they are friend of Hagfish and Victor there should be a profile image that isn't loaded so that's the sort of thing you can do and then obviously you can follow these people and explore it so one of the technologies we've been using is micro formats these are standardized ways of expressing a certain type of information that you might find on a web page for instance a person or a friendship or an event they use valid HTML by using the class attribute semantically which are already found in the wild that people are actually using on websites and you can already get importers and converters and browser plugins which consume these formats for a lot of these formats so one example which we currently use is hCard if you know the vCard formats it's like that, it describes a person but it just uses HTML to do this XFN, it looks like a link on a web page but it uses the rel attribute of links in the HTML spec and it gives you a fixed vocabulary of ways you can express a link between yourself and the person that's at the other end of that link hAtom is one we plan on implementing it's like the Atom feed protocol so you could have an event feed like you find on a social network the only difficulty would be how you would subscribe to something which has an expiring link which we haven't solved yet and the rel tag is another one we don't support yet allows you to have short tags which describe a current page then it's for describing yourself and it won't have a fixed vocabulary which would be good for free text searching for people so obviously we try to stop spoofing which OpenSocial now supports it supports a protocol which is sort of based on OAuth which is an open published specification OAuth was originally designed for mashups for securely sending data between different services where you have an account for instance you might want to import your photos from a photo sharing account into your social network and you don't want to give your password for one of these sites to the other site the way Google does it is you specify key value pairs which become part of a URL and you specify the destination URL that you want to make this request to and then the container adds a hash to it using a public key and there's a different public key per container so you can verify that the container makes that request and there are free OAuth free software OAuth libraries out there which you can use so how do we do it we're not doing a full web service there's no SOAP or Wustl involved the app which you install into your social network site is the client and it talks to the container which is acting as a proxy for talking to our website at cloud bridges and it retrieves data which we generate by a PHP script on our server the container JavaScript libraries calls the browser to make XML HTTP requests which is Ajax for files on the social network domain itself rather than going directly to the third party which would be cross-site scripting originally the open social API claimed it would support several formats for getting data but it originally only supported JSON format so we started using that and we found it's a good format it looks like an object dump as a string in JavaScript and you can call eval on it which loads that string as an object into memory but obviously if you're evalling arbitrary code there are security issues so there are parsers out there which parse the string first to check if everything's safe so future possibilities we're all about removing requirements so it hopefully cloud bridges makes it possible to go from having three social network accounts to only having one and we could even go to having zero social network accounts at all if you didn't want to by using open ID which is a URL based identity and it's globally unique so we wouldn't need to keep a database of accounts we could just assume that you had an open ID and you could log in with that to cloud bridges and see friends who had listed that open ID as a friend and interestingly as Google have open sourced the reference implementation for an open social container there we go


Hey, Bolo buddies. Thanks for watching. All right, you guys, I've got 29 bread and butter Bolo's coming your way. Items that I've picked up at thrift stores, garage sales, estate sales. There's one more. Facebook Marketplace. Items that you can buy low and sell for decent profits. Most of these items sold for $35 or less. And I'm going to tell you where I got it, what I paid for it and what I sold it for. My channel focuses on Bolo items. Beyond Lookout is what Bolo stands for.  So check out my channel. I have tons and tons of content, different formats. I do like category videos where I break it down by category. So make sure you check out some of the other videos. All right, you guys, let's get started with these bread and butter Bolo's. All right. So the first item I sold is this cow. It is a Kurt Adler plush cow. You guys, it's an ornament and you like squeeze it and it moves. Anyway, if you want to know how it works, you can go over to my reseller testing Bolo products and I have a video that shows you how it works. I add videos to my listing description to show how items work so that people buying the item know how it works.  And I'm like, why didn't I do a video? So after I did the video, the pigs sold and both of my callus have sold. So I got this at a garage sale for a buck. So this one for 1610, the buyer was all in for 2431. The next item is this vintage elephant trunk up. I got this out of a Dibble box from Donatella Bottolino. A Dibble box is basically a reseller box. She has a YouTube channel in her and auctions for you. They do selling events and I buy stuff from them to resell. I have lots of unboxings on my channel from them. If you guys want to see some of the items that I pick up, but definitely check out their channels, their link below. I ended up selling this for $16. The buyer was all in for $23.82. The next item is this Disney Mickey Mouse needlepoint stocking. I got this at the Goodwill Benz. Well, that's weird. Huh. I didn't write it down. I want to say I took a best offer, but I'm guessing it was around 20 bucks. And I got this at the Benz. So I know I got it there. I do have video footage of this one. So if you search my channel for Benz, B-I-N-S, I take you guys sourcing with me. So check out some of those. Those are always fun videos. And this is a needlepoint Christmas stocking. So pretty cool. The next item I sold is this Disney store Tick Tock the Croc crocodile plush. This is an 11 inch. I have sold the bigger version of this. I think it sold for like 100 bucks. But this is the smaller version. And I sold this really quick for $19.24. The buyer was all in for $27.19. And that came from a garage sale for 50 cents. Anytime I see anything with the Disney store patch, I will typically pick that item up. They're usually a good bread and butter and some of them go for big money. This guy I almost donated. I got him at a garage sale for 50 cents. There were tiny holes on its head. Let's see where I think it was attached to the packaging. Let me show you what I'm talking about here. Right there. See? I think that, you know, like how the tag and then somebody pulled it through and it kind of just snagged it. So I was like, eh, maybe I won't list this, you know? And then I decided to. I did a video on it. And it sold really, really fast, you guys. So it wasn't a big money. It sold for $12.58. And the buyer was all in for $21.03. But I was going to donate it. So I'm pretty happy with that. So this little Power Rangers figure came out of a mystery box, a thrift store mystery box. It sold for $13.32. The buyer was all in for $19.41. This is the pink Power Ranger figure with her bow. You guys, it's not very big. I mean, it's little. It's three inches. I love selling toys. The next item is this magnibilities. This actually took quite a while to sell. I got this at a garage sale in a bulk lot of jewelry. Magnibilities. I think that's like a direct sales thing. I'm not 100% sure, but they're magnetic. I ended up selling this for $18.49. The buyer was all in for $25.12. The next item is this Cuddle Barn Christmas tree. Again, video and description to show how it works. I have a whole separate YouTube channel where I test the products and it helps you guys learn items to be on the lookout for. So if you want to check out that YouTube channel, it's called Reseller Testing Bolo Products. There's a link down in the description. And you can also find this video over there. I ended up selling this for $13.32. Nope. I'm sorry. I sold this for $16.28. The buyer was all in for $25.08 and I got it at a garage sale for a dollar. The next item came from a mystery toy box that I purchased from Auctions for You. That's her YouTube channel name. She does selling events and auctions. She does cater to resellers. So if you're looking for inventory, it's a great place to go. I sold this doll for $13.32. The buyer was all in for $18.42. If you want to see everything that I got in this box, you can check out that unboxing on this channel. The next item are these Uno cards. They were new old stock. I got these at a garage sale for $0.10 and I sold them for a best offer of $8. The buyer was all in for $14.05. The next item is this Thomas the Train Fish Market Plastic Replacement Block. It is magnetic. It goes with a train set. And I sold this for $7 on best offer. Got it at a garage sale for about a quarter, probably in a lot of toys. And I sold it for, I'm sorry, the buyer was all in for $12.53. The next item is this Nerf Nintendo 2DS Protective Armor Case. You guys, this was pretty cool. It sold really quick. And I really had no idea. It was a lucky find. I ended up paying 75 cents for this at a thrift store. And I sold it for 35. The buyer was all in for $44.56. And these are hard to find. The next item is this Mighty Ducks Hockey Wild Wing Action Figure with the flip head. So it flips from the duck to that. I sold this for $15. The buyer was all in for $23.33. And I got this in a bulk lot of toys from a garage sale. This one was really cool. It's a Metropolitan Museum of Art, MMA is what it's marked right there. 1984 right there. And it is a Saint Mark Winged Lion. And I looked this up and I was pleasantly surprised with the comps and decided to auction it. It ended up selling on auction for $33. The buyer was all in for $40.39. And I got this at a thrift store for 50 cents. The next item, and I don't know if that is Saint Mark, is that a Catholic thing maybe? I have no idea. If anybody knows, let me know in the comments. The next item is this 1999 Furby Buddies Zebra Plush. This is just a bean bag plush, you guys. It doesn't do anything. I got this at a garage sale for 50 cents. I put it up for auction at $9.99. And it sold with one bid. If I remember correctly, I got an offer for $15 that I did not take. I should have took it because I didn't get any other bids. But you know, that's kind of the gamble you take. But the buyer was all in for $16.44. The next item is this American Girl Bitty Baby Food. It's play food. Anything Bitty Baby in American Girl. I typically pick up if I can get it cheap. I got this from a garage sale for a buck and I ended up taking a best offer of $10. The buyer was all in for $16.17. The next item are these Vintage Box of Candles. These are from an estate sale, cost of goods about 50 cents. Sold them for $8. The buyer was all in for $14.54. If you want to see the other items that I picked up at this estate sale, oh my goodness, it was an amazing haul. I've sold so many items from this lot. My husband and I went and I think the video is titled, We Split Up at this Estate Sale. We went in. It was like nothing was really priced. It's one of those sales that you love. He went one way. I went the other and then we came home and we compared what we got and we unboxed it for you guys. And I pop up screen shares of all the things that have sold so far and all of the active listings, but there's a lot of unexpected bolos in that video. So definitely go check it out. The next item I sold is this Fisher Price Big Zoo Animals. I usually pick these up when I see them. These are big, you guys. They're not little. They're big zoo, but they are little people. I sold these for $15. The buyer was all in for $25.66 and these came out of a thrift store mystery box. Play School Dollhouse Kitchen Table and Two Chairs. I picked this up in a bulk lot of items, dollhouse items, took a best offer of $10. The buyer was all in for $16.80. I probably have less than a dollar in this. This is the Singing in the Rain Blunt Bunny Plush. Again, I've got a video down in the description that shows how it works. You push the foot, you push the foot, it moves and sings. It's super cute. Taps its foot. Sold this for a best offer of $30. Got it at a garage sale for $2. The buyer was all in for $43.93 on that one. I love picking up animated plush. They do really well for me. The next item came out of a mystery box and I almost donated this because it is such a bread and butter, like really cheap item.  It is new old stock. I might as well list it. And I ended up selling it for $7.85. The buyer was all in for $14.68. And it actually sold quicker than I expected. The next item is this Marvel Avengers Hulk Smash replacement controller. You guys, this is a remote control. It does not have the item that goes with it. It's just the remote control. These will sell. Would I have sourced this? Probably not, but it came in a mystery box from a thrift store. So I went ahead and listed it. Sold for $12. Man, I cannot talk. I'm sorry, you guys. $12.96. The buyer was all in for $20.73. And it sold pretty quick. These also came from that estate sale I was just telling you about. These are plastic bottles and vintage nipples. Crazy, right? Ended up taking a best offer of $25 on these. Sold really fast. The buyer was all in for $45.15. And my cost of goods was about a buck. The next item are these dinosaur animal letters, numbers, magnets. I got these in a Facebook pickup.  This was just one of the items that was kind of thrown in. And I ended up selling them for $23. And the buyer paid shipping. The next item is another cow. This one was without tags. The first one had tags. Sold this for $12.60. And the buyer was all in for $20.35. Got it at a garage sale for a dollar. If you guys see these Carolyn critters that are plush ornaments, pick them up, you guys, because I had three of them and they all sold really quick. And I think they're just like a, I don't know if you get them like at CVS or Walgreens or maybe something like that. I don't think they're anything super fancy. I mean, they're Kurt Adler, but I don't know. People want them though. This little koala, I love this. It's so cute. It's a candle. It's never been lit. So cute. I believe this one went internationally. I took a best offer of $15. And the buyer was all in for $23.14. I got that at, I believe, a thrift store. This is a Team Umi Zumi car. So the other one I showed you was a single remote that I sold. This is a car without the remote. So somebody would be looking if they buy this from me, which they did, they either have the remote or they're planning to buy the remote separately. Anything Team Umi Zumi I pick up, it always does well. This is without the remote. And I still sold it for $29.40. The buyer was all in for $42.35. And I got that at a garage sale for a dollar. The next item is this dollhouse miniature red oak floor. So this is, if somebody is making a dollhouse, this is the wood floor. Pretty cool, right? I got this at an estate sale for four bucks. It sold for $24.50. The buyer was all in for $33.97. If I remember correctly, I sandwiched this between two pieces of a box. I just cut up a box and then shipped it first class. The next item is this flamingo. It is plastic. It has plastic legs, but it is plush. It's from 1986, vintage. Got it at a garage sale for a buck and sold it for a best offer of $13.20. The buyer was all in for $21.25. All right, you guys, that was 29 bread and butter bolos. Let me know what you think in the comments. What was your favorite bolo? Down in the description, you can check out all the links to the different places that I am at. I'm on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Pinterest. I do use List Perfectly to Crosspost. There's a demo video of how I use it. I start on eBay and Crosspost to Mercari and Poshmark. I do have videos on Mercari and Poshmark. If you guys want to check out what I'm selling over there, I sell hard goods on those platforms also. If you decide you want to try List Perfectly to Crosspost, you can use coupon referral code BOLOBUDDYS, all one word.  I do Facebook things where I will post something and ask people in the group to share their best BOLO in that category or their best December or January or February BOLO. Then I will make a video. It's a great way to get your BOLO featured so you can check that out on my Facebook group. All right, you guys. There's also videos. They're going to pop up here and down here. You guys can click on those to check out another video. If you're new here, thanks for being here. If you've been here for a while, let me know in the comments how long you've been here. If you're new, tell me how you found the channel and leave me a hat emoji in the comments if you made it this far. All right, you guys, thank you for being here. Thank you for watching. Be sure to like, comment, subscribe, and share. Thanks for watching.


We are live. Good morning everyone. This meeting will now come to order. Welcome to this virtual meeting of the Durham Historic Preservation Commission on the 12th day of July, 2022. My name is Matt Bouchard and I am chair of the commission. The commission is a quasi judicial board of record and as such, all testimony will be recorded. Under this procedure, our meeting today will also be live streamed on the city's YouTube channel. The proceedings of this board are governed by the zoning laws as recorded. As such, please note the steps we have taken to ensure that each party's due process rights are protected as we proceed on this remote platform. First, today's meeting will be conducted in accordance with North Carolina General Statutes chapter 166A, section 19.24, which allows for remote meetings and quasi judicial hearings during declarations of emergency. Second, each applicant on today's agenda was notified before being placed on the agenda that this meeting would be conducted using a remote electronic platform. Every applicant on today's agenda has consented to the board conducting the evidentiary hearing on the request using this remote platform. We will also confirm today at the start of each evidentiary hearing that the participants in the evidentiary hearing consent to the matter of proceeding on this remote platform. If there was any objection to the matter of proceeding in this remote platform, the case will be continued. Third, notice of this meeting was provided to the applicants and to the public in multiple ways, including signage posted on site, notification letters mailed to all adjacent property owners, informing recipients regarding the remote platform and a general announcement via our website, including, excuse me, informing the public of same. The notices for today's meeting advise the public on how to access the remote meeting as it occurs. Individuals wishing to participate in today's evidentiary hearings were required to register prior to the meeting. Information about this registration requirement, along with information about how to sign up to participate was included in the mailed notice letters sent to each adjacent property owner. This information was also included on the board's website. The public was advised to contact the city immediately in case of objection to the evidentiary hearing or to the remote meeting platform. One case today is proceeding in which city has been contacted by an individual or entity with an objection to the case or the matter being heard, excuse me, to the case or to the matter being heard in this remote meeting platform. All individuals participating in today's evidentiary hearings were also required to submit a copy of any presentation, document, exhibit or other material they wish to submit at the evidentiary hearing prior to today's meeting. All materials that the city received from the participants in today's cases as well as a copy of city staff's presentations and documents were posted online prior to this meeting. The agenda and all materials to be discussed today may be viewed at any time during today's meeting by visiting the web link for today's agenda via Durham's Agenda Center. Finally, all individuals who registered to participate in an evidentiary hearing on today's agenda as well as all city staff participants were emailed a witness oath and consent to a remote hearing form prior to today's meeting. Any individual planning to testify or submit evidence in an evidentiary hearing was notified that they must sign the oath form prior to today's meeting. We will also reaffirm everyone's oath on the record at today's meeting. Are there any members of this board that would have any conflicts of interest with regard to the cases before us today? Chair Prashar, Ms. Annie Gulsby, I'll be recusing myself from the Ritsby Avenue case. Okay, thank you Vice Chair Gulsby, anybody else? And Vice Chair Gulsby, if you could just provide some information about the nature of the, excuse me, easy for me to say, recusal. Certainly, my firm is the architect for the project and I'm also working on the project. Thank you. Are there any early dismissals being requested today from our commissioners? This is Katie, our commissioner Hamilton. I, based on the number of cases, I understood that we were gonna review, scheduled another meeting at 1030, so I'm hoping we'll be done by then, but in case we aren't, I did schedule another one just because of my understanding of how long this meeting was gonna go, but I might've been wrong on that. Thank you for that, anybody else? Matt, this is Andy again. I need to leave at 10.45. Thank you for that, excuse me, anybody else? Okay, as chair of the Historic Preservation Commission, I'd like to remind everyone that our quasi-judicial hearings function similar to a court proceeding. Staff will first present an overview of each case and then the applicant will have an opportunity to present their evidence. Opponents, if any, may then present their evidence and then the applicant may present a rebuttal. Board members will refrain from questions or comments until each speaker has completed his or her presentation. Testimony should consist of facts that each witness knows directly, not hearsay. Evidence already presented need not be repeated. All witnesses who have signed up in advance will be given the opportunity to speak and their testimony will be recorded. The board will vote on each case after the presentation of all evidence pro and con concerning that case. All decisions of the board are subject to appeal to the Board of Adjustment and then to the Durham County Superior Court. Clerk Holmes, could you please take the attendance of the commissioners who are here today? All right. Chair Bouchard. Present. Commissioner Horton. Present. Vice Chair Gulsby. Present. Commissioner Hamilton. Present. Commissioner Johnson. Commissioner Calhoun. Present. Commissioner Chambers. Present. Carla, could you please provide us the details of Commissioner Johnson's absence as you understand them? Yeah, I believe she mentioned at a previous meeting that she would be at a conference. So she did give us notice, I think to all of us at the last hearing, at the last meeting. Do we have a motion to excuse Commissioner Johnson's absence? Commissioner Hamilton, so moved. Can I have a second? Second. Any decals, please? Thank you, Vice Chair Gulsby. Clerk Holmes, if we could have a roll call vote, please on excusing Commissioner Johnson's absence from today's meeting. All right. Chair Bouchard. Approved. Vice Chair Gulsby. Approved. Commissioner Horton. Present. Commissioner Hamilton. Approved. Commissioner Calhoun. Approved. And Commissioner Chambers. Approved. Thank you, Clerk Holmes. Motion passes, I'm sorry, motion passes six to zero. Wonderful. Thank you very much. Commissioners, you've been forwarded an agenda for today's meeting. Would anyone, including city staff, like to recommend any adjustments to that agenda? That. Mr. O'Toole. Good morning, Commission. Don O'Toole from the city attorney's office. I'm just a little concerned about the second case because we have one member recusing himself. So that only leads us with five members. I would just like to request that maybe we reverse the order on the hearing of the cases if that might be possible for the commission. City staff or commissioners, any objection to flipping the order of today's cases that would make the 2016-2018 Riggs v. Avenue, the first case we hear today and the 1223 Vickers Avenue, the second case we hear today? Okay, hearing no objection, I believe it's within my discretion to approve that adjustment to the agenda. We will hear case COA 220031 first today. Commissioners, you've also been provided draft minutes from our last commission hearing held on the same remote platform on June 14, 2022. Does anyone have any adjustments to the draft minutes that they would like to recommend? Chair Bichard, this is Commissioner Hamilton. I was just curious with the votes, like all of them are counted as seven to zero, but I don't think everybody was voting. I think only six of us were actually voting. So I was hoping, I wasn't sure if we should change that. I mean, all of us were in attendance, but. We are missing one commissioner. Ms. Johnson is not present. So I think that's, we have seven possible commissioners, but we have one missing, which is Ms. Johnson. So that brings it to six, am I? No, we're talking about last month's minutes. Oh, I'm sorry. We're talking about the recent vote. Yeah, and your team wasn't voting last month.  I would imagine. I don't really know. Yeah. Katie, I still count seven people on the member minus for Keyne. So one, two, because I thought we only had seven. Four, because we still have Laura at that point. Oh, okay. Yeah. So commissioner chambers wouldn't be able to vote for the minutes and commissioner Horton wouldn't either. So we have Chair Bichard by struggles be commissioner Calhoun and commissioner Hamilton. So that is one, two, four. And four commissioners with seven currently serving Woodcons today quorum. Is that correct, Mr. O'Toole? I'm sorry, Mr. Bichard. I didn't hear your question. Absolutely. We are in the process of reviewing and approving the minutes from the June 14, 2022 meeting. Obviously with Mr. Chambers and with Ms. Horton, not participating in last month's cases and based on the folks who are here today, who were present at that hearing, we have four people eligible to vote to approve the meetings, the meeting minutes, excuse me. If we had a full commission of non-members that would clearly not constitute a quorum. But since we are currently two members down on our commission, I am asking whether or not four members. No, it's my understanding that under the rules five members is required for a quorum. So maybe we should hold off on approving the minutes until we have a full compliment next month. I'm fine holding off on postponing approval of the June 14, 2022 minutes until our next commission meeting in August. And I believe that is within my discretion and will not request a vote from the commission on that topic. So let's move forward. Could I also recommend one other adjustment to the agenda and that is before we start the hearings also introduce our two new members? Absolutely. And we also have a hand raised from Ms. Smith. Yes, I just wanted to ask the question if I knew that Rikim was present last month. And so he did hear all of the public hearings and all of the information that was entered and voted on. So I just wanted if for next month, if Commissioner Horton is to vote on the minutes, maybe she could just go back and look at the meeting briefly online or read over the minutes to be familiar with them before you vote on them next month. But I just wanted to throw that out there. Thank you. Commissioner Horton, you are voting on today's case is correct? Yes. Okay, wonderful. Thank you. Okay, well, let's move forward with the swearing in of all city staff. Claire Combs. All right. Do you members of staff swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give in the public hearing proceedings for today's cases is the truth by your own knowledge or by information and belief? Carla Rosenberg Planning Department, I do. Grace Smith Planning Department, I do. Great. Thank you both. The first case on our agenda today, pursuant to the adjustment to the agenda that was made at the beginning of this hearing is COA 220031, 2016-2018 Riggsby Avenue. I believe that Mr. O'Toole has some remarks he would like to make about this case before we get started. Good morning everyone, Don. In fact, Don, before you get started, we probably should have Chris Peterson bring in the participants and any opponents for this case into the hearing so that they can hear what you need to say and respond if necessary. And so Chris, if you could do that, please. And Matt, if I may, Commissioner Gouldy, I'll go ahead and recuse myself at this time from the case. Again, I'm part of the design staff for the applicant. And remind me, Mr. O'Toole, do we need to have a vote on recruit? Can't say that word today. Cusel, based on the explanation that Vice Chair Gouldy has provided us? I don't think that's required. Okay. Andy, thank you. And, very good. Okay, before we proceed with this case, swearing of any witnesses in this case, I would like to give the floor to Mr. O'Toole to make remarks. Good morning, everyone. Don O'Toole from the Durham City Attorney's Office. I just wanted to give a brief intro to this case to explain something that a staff is going to request that the commission do. We've all needed to be flexible over the last two years with the pandemic. And when the city initial, well, when the world initially went remote, there were questions under North Carolina law of whether quasi judicial proceedings could be held over a virtual platform like Zoom. Our legislature remedied that, the pandemic started March 2000. That next legislative session, a law was passed and Mr. Bouchard actually cited the law at the beginning of the meeting. It's 166A-19.24. And that meeting specifically allowed quasi judicial proceedings to be held remotely when certain conditions were met. One of the first conditions was there needed to be an emergency order in place that governed the locality where the hearing would be held. Since 2000, Governor Cooper has had an emergency order in place that covers the entire state of North Carolina. I don't know if many followed the news yesterday, but the governor issued a press release indicating that his statewide emergency order will cease on August 15, 2022. So it is actually still in effect. So to the extent that we have a remote meeting today, that is still authorized. There is another requirement under the statute and I'll just read it to everyone so it's in the record.  And that phrase standing to participate has special legal significance in the quasi judicial hearing have been given notice of the quasi judicial hearing and consent to the remote meeting. Essentially what that means is if people have standing to participate in the hearing then they have to consent to that meeting going forward. I think you'll note that in the package of information that's in the online agenda, a request was made from some nearby neighbors. In that letter, they contend that they have standing. I'm not here to dispute that. I'm also not the decider of that question of whether they have standing or not. And they are represented by an attorney, Mr. Rother who is actually on this call and he'll be given the opportunity to speak if he so chooses. But in that letter, he indicated that his clients who he contends have standing that they do not consent to this meeting proceeding remotely. In response to Mr. Rother's email, I indicated that he and or his clients might need to be present in case the applicant wanted to contest whether those folks have standing or not, which would be the applicant's right. In the end of the day, one of the things that Mr. Rother and his law partner indicated is that, and obviously Mr. Rother can speak for himself, but that he and his clients didn't actually want to consent even to attend the meeting remotely in order to consider the standing question. And so that was discussed internally. I discussed it with Carla, Grace was involved in the conversation and the planning director, Sarah Young was involved. And one of the things that we discussed internally was probably the best way to avoid this issue would be to request that the HPC refer this matter back to staff such that a live hearing can be heard on this matter, which eliminates the whole question of consenting to a remote meeting. And as I just stated previously, the governor's order will be lifted next month. So that should facilitate the city's quasi-judicial boards which the HPC is one of them, returning to an in-person format. So by way of saying that, I would like to ask on behalf of the city staff that this matter that the HPC consider referring this matter back to city staff so that it can be scheduled for an in-person meeting. Mr. Rother, thank you very much. I think I'll turn to Mr. Rother first just to see if he would like to say anything in response, confirm the same Mr. O'Toole made. Yes, Mr. Chairman, thank you. I'll be very brief because I think Mr. O'Toole characterized the situation very fairly. My name is Jeffrey Rother from Morningstar Law Group. We represent the Eleanor Condominium Owners Association which is the building next door to the subject property that shares a party wall with the building that's proposed to be demolished. As Mr. O'Toole mentioned, this is a quasi-judicial hearing that's being taken place virtually under North Carolina General Statute 166A-19.24. The city only has a statutory authority to go forward if all parties would stand in consent. As Mr. O'Toole mentioned, my law partner wrote letters dated July the 5th and July the 8th, which I believe have been included in the agenda packet in which we state on behalf of our clients that we object to the meeting taking place virtually and also object to any remote proceeding to adjudicate our client standing. We believe the standing is self-evident, but nonetheless believe the statute requires in-person meeting to the extent that there is any question as to standing for that to be adjudicated. So we would request that this be adjourned until such time as the board can hear this matter in person. Mr. Rother, thank you. I'd like to give the applicant an opportunity to respond and just by way of reminder, we haven't sworn anybody in yet. We're just talking solely about the issue of the opponent's objections to proceeding on the remote platform, but I do want to give the applicant an opportunity to respond to what it has heard with respect to that issue. Good morning, everyone. My name is Niche Evans. I am the president and CEO of Durham-based company called Linux and Gray Construction, as well as Linux and Gray, a CRE investment firm. This is actually the third project that I'll be working on related to the historic district. So just providing some context there, I would like to contest in terms of the hearing being made in person. The reason for that is because the objection is based on hearsay related to the demolition of the party wall and that is not what we are planning to do. And so with that being noted, there's no longer a basis for the objection. And so we would like to ask if we can please proceed with our presentation today. And I'm accompanied with both my structural engineer as well as my architecture firm. Thank you very much for that. I think I need to turn back to Mr. O'Toole for thoughts on the authority of this board to proceed with this case in light of the fact that we do have an opponent who has objected to proceeding on this remote platform. So as Ms. Evans just said, it sounds like she would contest that the opponents have standing. And Mr. Rother has indicated that he objects to a hearing on standing proceeding remotely. I believe it is safest for this board and the city for this to be referred back to staff so that it can be scheduled for a live hearing and in person hearing. I'm going to go ahead and open up the floor for conversation among the commissioners about how they believe this matter should best be handled in light of the objection that we have heard to proceeding on this remote platform and the response that we have heard from our applicant. Mr. Chair. Mr. Miller, this is just a conversation among commissioners at this point. Yes, but I wanted to be heard on the motion that's pending. Right now there is no motion pending. Well, you're talking about sending it back to the staff that will require a motion. I'm assuming that's what was being suggested. I'd like to be heard on the matter. Mr. O'Toole, could you please, as a point of order, let us know whether or not it would be appropriate at this time for Mr. Miller to speak? I mean, we haven't even opened a hearing where this is a preliminary matter. I believe it's appropriate for this just to be discussed among the commission at this point. And that is how we will proceed. Very well. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Commissioners, any thoughts in response to what you have heard? Commissioner Haliton? Yeah, I mean, so while I understand that the demolition of the party wall might be here, say, the party has standing regardless, because they are an adjoining building. And so I don't think standing, I have to agree with Morningstar it's self-evident. And therefore, if they're against having this hearing digitally, I just don't think we can in due process have this hearing digitally without their consent. Thank you, Commissioner Hamilton. Anybody else? Is there anybody who would like to speak in favor of proceeding today? Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion from any commissioner who would like to make a motion. This is Commissioner Hamilton. I guess I'll be the vocal one today. I would move that case. COA 2200031 be referred back to staff to be scheduled at the next commission hearing held in person. Do we have a second? I second. Thank you, Commissioner Calhoun. Clerk Holmes, if we could have a roll call vote, please. Great. Chair Bouchard. Approved. Commissioner Calhoun. Approved. Commissioner Chambers. Approved. Commissioner Hamilton. Approved. Commissioner Horton. Approved. Motion passes 5 to 0. Want to thank everybody for your patience as we work through this issue. We look forward to scheduling or city staff working with you to schedule this matter for an in-person meeting. And we look forward to hearing evidence pro and con on the substance of the matter at such time. Thank you. We're going to move on to the next case on our agenda. And while Mr. Peterson is bringing in our participants and any opponents, I will go ahead and announce that the next case is COA<PHONE_NUMBER>3 Vickers Avenue. Before we hear from staff, is there any one of our commissioners who may have a conflict of interest in hearing this case? Seeing and hearing none. Let us proceed. Well, actually, I don't believe we have our participant in just yet. Chair, it's taking us a minute to get Noel Gonzales. Oh, I think they're coming in right now. Noel Gonzales, can you hear us? You're currently on mute. Yes, I can hear you. Good morning. Good morning, Mr. Gonzales. Good to see you this morning. Let's proceed with swearing in of Mr. Gonzales and anybody else who may be here for this case, Clark Holmes. All right, do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give in the public hearing proceedings for today's case, the truth by your own knowledge or by information and belief? I need you to vocalize your ascents. Oh, yes. Thank you. And Mr. Gonzales, do you consent to your hearing proceeding today on this electronic remote platform? Yes. Wonderful. Thank you very much. We could have a staff report, please. Carla. Sorry, new computer. Noel, I'm not doing exactly what I want it to do. I'll just. This is Carla Rosenberg, Planning Department. This case, COA 2200025. The project is 1223 Vickers Avenue. Modifications, new accessory structure, and site work. The applicant is CQC Homes represented by Noel Gonzales. The owners are John Subner-Darnell and Lalitri Darnell. It's located on the east side of Vickers Avenue between Cobb Street and West Lakewood Avenue. It's zoned Residential Suburban 8, and it's a contributing structure to the Moorhead Hill Historic District. The applicant is proposing to replace an existing screen porch. And this will require some minor change to the rear roofline. And there will also be an attached deck. Also, the applicant is proposing two accessory structures in the side yard.  There's also the removal of, I'm sorry, protection of a tree on site. I'd like to introduce this staff report into the record and invite Mr. Gonzales to present his case. Speak now. So the clients came to us to renovate their existing screen porch, which is informally done. So the structure is attached to the overhang of the house. So we're going to stay within the same footprint, but just add a little bit to correct some of the slab work that was done because it's all cracked and settled into that area because it was improperly done in the past. So we're going to correct those issues. But part of that, in order to kind of minimize all the, to minimize how much we connect to the house, we are going a little higher than the actual roofline. So we're just going to extend and to minimize how much we touch on the existing roof. So we propose to go up about two feet above the existing roof level in the back of the house. And then on the exterior, it's all going to match with the same architectural style of the house. We're also proposing a privacy fence to kind of match the other side of the house, where it was one, it went through the whole COA approval as well. So we're kind of going to match one side to the other with our privacy fence where the deck is going to be. And that's where the sauna is going to be placed. And then the owners wanted to add a greenhouse in their backyard as well, which is only 96 square feet. And it's a pretty manufactured greenhouse. So all the materials are just going to be shipped and put together on site with just a pad. And it's all going to be within the setback lines provided on the site survey. Yes, I think that's all I got. Mr. Gonzalez, thank you very much for your presentation. I will now open the floor for questions from any of my fellow commissioners. Mr. Gonzalez, Commissioner Gillespie, was there any consideration to different placements of both the sauna and the greenhouse that would be concealed from the street? So what I'm getting at is both of these would be considered accessory structures to the property. And given the materials being prefabricated, they're not associated really with the house. They're kind of what they are. And so typically with the accessory structures, we see them kind of back behind the site, particularly when the materials don't have an association with the main structure. The greenhouse and the sauna kind of end that deck that we're adding on that part of the property. I don't know if you've seen the pictures, but there's like a lot of trees next to the house that kind of conceal everything that we're not taking down. So the pictures from the street looking towards the house, you can kind of see that it kind of, it will be concealed based on the trees. In the back of the property, the ground, and they have a lot of natural landscape that they wanted to minimize on touching. So we didn't have too many options on kind of where to place it. We just knew that kind of need to be concealed towards the back of the house. And we chose kind of something similar in like to minimize that it would conflict with kind of the architectural nature of the existing home. So the sun all kind of has that same flat roof. The greenhouse, unfortunately, we were unable to find something that had a flat roof based on what the client's budget was. OK, so what I'm hearing is that there's a lot of landscaping in the kind of the rear of the property. And so for y'all, this made the most sense in terms of siding to minimize impact on the rest of the landscaping. All right, I don't have any other questions. Thank you. Mr. Gonzalez, was that a sent to Mr. Gillespie's last question? Just want to make sure that that's clear for the record. Yes. OK, thank you. Commissioners, any other questions for Mr. Gonzalez? Seeing and hearing none, I'll ask if there is anyone else present who intends to speak either or against this case. And seeing and hearing from nobody else, I will close the public hearing and open the floor for discussion amongst the commissioners. Is there anyone who would like to lead us off? This is Carla Rosenberg. I just wanted to make sure. Are you able to see my screen? Yes. And you're able to see when I'm scrolling through? Yes. OK, thank you very much. Matt, I'm sure I'm just kind of skimming the accessory structures for contributing real quick. And one piece that does come to mind is even though it's currently shielded by landscaping, I mean, we can't guarantee that that will always be there. And so what we typically see when these are presented is the accessory structures are more pushed to rear the property, or at least back behind the building themselves. I mean, it's almost a similar thing that when we talk about decks, if they're put in a new deck or an addition on a contributing structure, you really see it kind of within the bounds of the primary structure, not outboard of it. I would agree that that is typically what we see, Vice Chair Gillespie. But we're obviously constrained by our criteria. And I think L3A, which is going to apply here, states that accessory structures should be located to the rear or side of the primary structure. And so I'm not sure that there is something proposed here that is in violation of the criteria, even if it is based on our recent experience, somewhat unusual. Thanks for pointing out. The word rear stuck out in my head. I forgot the side piece. That's why I was trying to read through it real quick. Any other discussion, commissioners? Searing? Commissioner, sorry. No, please proceed. Commissioner Horton, I was also looking at the greenhouse from the standpoint of the roof. To me, the greenhouse looks in Congress with the rest of the architecture of the actual house and the other proposed accessory. However, it is compatible with other things in the neighborhood, that Mansard style. So that would be 3B. Well, in 3C, design new accessory structures to be compatible with architectural style of the primary structure. Within the district, right? So Commissioner Horton, let me just ask, is the potential incompatibility that you see between the greenhouse and the primary structure a reason for you to potentially vote against the proposal? I'm not sure, because F, so F is designed to accessory structures to be compatible with architectural style primary structure. To me, I feel like it's incompatible with the primary structure, even though it is compatible with others in the district, other roof lines specifically in the district. I don't think I'm going to vote no, but I did want it sort of on record that I wish they'd choose something different. Carl, I guess I'll go. Mr. Gonzalez, right now the public hearing is closed. Carl, would you like to comment on anything you just heard from Commissioner Horton and whether or not the greenhouse is or is not compatible with the primary structure? Yes, so I mean, I agree it has a different roof form. I also agree with what Ms. Horton brought up that I think the criteria states compatible with the contributing structure and with structures in the district. This happens to be a more unusual mid-century contributing structure. Most of the contributing structures do have a more slanted roof line. My thought on it was given its location far back from the street that it would be minimally visible and that the differences that it did show would not be readily apparent from the street. That was my position on it, but I understand that there are different factors to weigh. But I was weighing that it wouldn't be incompatible as viewed from the street. I'll go ahead and briefly reopen the public hearing for the purpose of giving Mr. Gonzalez an opportunity to respond to the concern. So this is within their budget. Once we get pricing back from the contractors, the greenhouse roof, there's different options that are more expensive that might be a possibility where the roof can be flat on the greenhouse versus this style. The likelihood of that is little, but it's possible, depending on what we get for pricing back from the source. All right, thank you for that, Mr. Gonzalez. I'll re-close the public hearing and simply observe that we're voting on the proposals that currently exist with the greenhouse with the current roof form. Commissioners, anyone else want to address this issue and whether or not they share concerns about the roof form for this greenhouse and its potentially incompatibility with the primary structure? This is Commissioner Hamilton. Like I understand the concern, but part of me looks at it in a wire frame building. So it doesn't have the same weight to it as a true roof with either tile or my brain is not working. Other roof materials that are opaque instead of see-through. So to me, it doesn't have that weight. And especially with it being so far back, I think especially the green, it could just disappear into the landscape to a certain degree with this style of building. So I find it far less concerning than if it did have an opaque roof material on it. And if I may ask a question, Katie, you may know, is the functionality of the structure as a greenhouse affected by the roof shape? So that one has vents on it, which you're typically not going to find on a flat roof. So cooling-wise, there can be a functionality to having this low roof that has the vents that pitch out. So for temperature regulation, depending on the orientation, which I really haven't looked at this one that much, sometimes for solar orientation, it makes sense to have a non-flat roof. But normally it has more to do with ventilation than anything else. My memory from my future farmers of America, agricultural production days. Thank you for those comments. Commissioners, any other discussion, whether on the greenhouse or any other matter pertaining to this application? Seeing and hearing none, I will request a staff recommendation. Carla Rosenberg Planning Department, staff would recommend approval of this application. Thank you so much, Carla. Do I have a commissioner who would be willing to make a motion? If everyone's going to be shy, I'll go ahead and make the motion. The Durham Historic Preservation Commission finds that, in the case COA<PHONE_NUMBER> Vickers Avenue, modifications, new construction, and site work, the applicant is proposing modifications to a contributing structure, as well as two new accessory structures, a new screened porch measuring 356 square feet with new 240 square foot attached deck will replace the existing screened porch to accommodate its height. A section of the home's original rear roof overhang will be removed. A sauna measuring 30 square feet and approximately 7 feet in height constructed of cedar wood, glass panels, and asphalt roof shingles will be located to the side and rear of the primary structure. A greenhouse measuring 96 square feet and nearly 8 feet in height constructed with resin framing and clear polycarbonate panels will be located immediately behind it. Therefore, the conclusion of law is that the proposed addition and alterations are consistent with historic character and qualities of the historic district and are consistent with the historic property's local review criteria, specifically those listed in the staff report. And the Durham Historic Preservation Commission approves the certificate of appropriateness for case COA 2200-025-1223 Vickers Avenue, modifications, new construction, and site work with the following conditions. One, the improvements shall be substantially consistent with the plans and testimony presented to the commission at this commission hearing and attached to this COA. Two, the improvements may require additional approvals from other city or county departments or state or local agencies. The applicant is responsible for obtaining all required approvals relating to building construction, site work, and work in the right-of-way. And three, a compliance inspection shall be performed immediately upon completion of the work approved herein. Commissioner Hamilton second. Thank you, Commissioner Hamilton. Clerk Holmes, if we can have a roll call vote, please. All right, Chair Bouchard. Approved. Vice Chair Gulsby. Approved. Commissioner Calhoun. Approved. Commissioner Horton. Rift. Commissioner Chambers. Approved. And Commissioner Hamilton. Approved. Motion passes six to zero. Thank you so much, Mr. Gonzalez. Thank you. Good luck on the project, both to you and to your client. Thank you. Appreciate it. Take care. Well, commissioners, it's the end of our case. This is for today. Short docket, which is nice. We're going to get out of here, I think, by 10 o'clock. We do have a few small matters to discuss. Old business. We have the newsletter. I believe we're going to try to focus on accessory dwelling units. Carla has sent me some information. I've volunteered to take the labor and go and try to draft something. And I have not yet started. So that is on my plate here for the next couple of weeks and hope to have some progress. To keep me in line, Carla, is there a deadline from which I should be working? No, we were looking to have a September publish date. We could move that back to October. But I mean, I'm happy to also speak with you, meet with you again in the next week or so, and just sort of review the plan that we had and whether that is going to work or if we might want to adjust and do that plan maybe a year from now. Commissioner, there's one of the obstacles that we have with this plan is we don't have an ADU that we've approved built from which we can take some pictures and try to highlight. And so let Carla and me regroup here in the next couple of weeks and see whether or not we can still work with this or if we should segue to a different feature for the newsletter this time around. And Matt and Carla, one I don't know if it's worth looking at is I know David Parker had a project where they took down a mid-century structure. It was not contributing, but they used the materials or they were slated to use the materials for an accessory structure in the back. I know the main house, if not completed, is fairly far along. I don't know if they've done anything to the original materials. Yeah, I'll go ahead. So you were saying, are you saying in terms of that ADU, whether it's been built yet, or you're saying shift to the use of original materials from demolished structures as a new highly? Either. Again, I don't know where he's at with it. Yeah, I think that was one of the ones that I saw hadn't been built yet. But I will review that. And then that is another potential frame to work with is reuse of materials. We could look at that. Another theme that came to mind was intensive restoration. We've had a couple of projects, one in Moorhead Hill and one in Golden Belt in the last couple of years, where they were taking very, very altered structures and bringing them back to their original shape, which is unusual. That seems pretty interesting too. Yeah. Yeah. Kyle, let's definitely regroup here either this week or early next and come up with a game plan. Sounds like we have several interesting themes. So this is good. This will set us up for the next three years. Yeah. New business, minor COA report. Yes, I hope we'll be having that to you all by Friday. Great. Thank you, Clark Holmes. Before we adjourn, preview of coming attractions, my understanding, Carly, is we've got a pretty deep docket for August the 2nd. If you could just share with us a little bit of what's coming down the pike. Sure, we have six cases. One of those was continued from June. I would recommend that the commissioners who are here today but were not present without hearing review and be able to vote. That would be necessary in order for you to vote, to have that precedent. So there's two cases on that property because there's also the major COA for additional accessory structures there. And then there are four other cases, three of which I think won't be too contentious. But I think a couple of them are going to take a bit more time. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. Go ahead and finish. No, I was just going to say I'm not too worried about us getting through the six. I think we can do it. But we do need you to clear your schedules for the entire morning, if at all possible. I think that makes good sense. Carly, is the new construction for the Riggs B project among the six that you have? It is not. I have not received the materials for that new construction yet. OK, so that will not be part of our August agenda. And so Don has his hand raised. And Don, for just curious and this question for planning staff, is the plan for the August 2 meeting to remain remote? The yes. I'm sorry, Carly. Yes, that's correct. His emergency order is still in place, correct. It'll be our last one, guys. And we all have to get back together again. Yes, and just for everyone's just a quick note before we leave, I put in the chat earlier in case you didn't see that Carly will be where we'll land. If you need to come to City Hall to see the meeting space and reacclimate yourself with City Hall or get to know City Hall because you're a new member, we're happy to meet you there sometime. I'm there and, Carly, we're in and out and we're able to meet you there and walk you around. So we'll send out the email and then we'll wait to hear back from you about what you may need from us. Grace, you broke up a little bit for me. Just to reiterate, we're going to meet in city chambers again. We, I'm not which room we'll be in. That's something we'll let you know in the email that we send. But offering up, if anyone wants to come see the meeting space, once we verify that, we're happy to take you on a tour. Got you, all right, thanks. Thank you, sorry about that. I think that's it. Unless anyone has anything else they'd like to share. If not, we are adjourned. Oh, Carly, you. I was just going to say, if because we're not in person where we usually would have our chit chat, if you guys would like to know a little bit more about Mr. Chambers and Ms. Horton, give them an opportunity to share a couple of sentences about themselves. That's a great idea. I should have thought of that. That's a great idea. We'll start with Rakeem since he is a little bit more senior here and then we'll go to Alva. Good morning, everyone. My name is Rakeem Chambers. I'm a commercial real estate broker in the Durham area. I've been here since I was 17. So I'm a transplant from Hartford, Connecticut. Outside of that, I like to eat devil's pizzeria on 9th Street about three times a week. I like international delights. I like Tater Bread on Austin Avenue. I just love Durham. My cousin went to North Carolina Central University. I didn't go to college, but me having that experience with going to his dorm and seeing the different things actually encouraged me to go full fledged after high school straight into real estate. And it's been amazing. So I mean, that's really me in that shed. That's great. Awesome. Thank you. We're psyched to have you, Rakeem. Alva? Hi, I'm Alva. I've been in Durham about 10 years this year around, but I was here in 2007 for several years as well. My previous career, well, my education background is in interior architecture. And studio art and then my master's is in architectural history from the University of New York. So in Northern England, so I worked for a designer there and have reviewed some projects similar and worked on some projects similar to hopefully what we'll be doing. And yeah, I love Durham too. I'm excited to see it change and grow and keep some things the same as well. Awesome. Thank you both so much. Yeah, thank you both for serving. We've got a great group here. And it'll be interesting to go in person a couple months from now. It's going to seem kind of foreign. I've been on the commission for this is my fourth year. And so I'm about like half in person, half remote. And so I'm looking forward to being back together again. And hopefully everybody else is as well. And just so you all know, we have one commission position that is being advertised this month for an at-large position. And then we still have our attorney position as well. If you know anybody who would be interested. Carla, when do I need to, I guess, reapply? It's in three years. So usually a few months before your three-year mark. All right. 10 AM sharp. Everyone have a great one. We'll see you in a month. Bye. Thanks, everyone. Bye-bye. Bye. We're adjourned.


So, if you look at the title of the module, it says sending data to the sites and server site operations, sending data to the website, now it is not wrong, you might be thinking that the data should be coming from the web server, the data or information should be coming from the web site, from the database server, there is nothing wrong about it. For say for example, I would like to know what were the sales on a certain date, what is the total aggregate sale during a certain time period, what were the search results for this kind of search strings which were the users were entering or typing on the screen. So, you see that I have to send that date on which I would like to know the sales, I need to send the time period for which I need the aggregate sales, I need to send the keyword for which I would like to know how many searches were done. So, this data is going from the client side to the server side, we are sending the data to the server right and ultimately to the database server and at the database server the query runs and returns the results to us to be displayed on our screen, now remember that all this data which we are sending to the web server that data is kind of it is in the forms. So, you see that the forms text box in the form or check boxes in the form or radio buttons on the form, those things are not for the purpose of formatting, they have their individual labeling, they have their names, they have their contents and this data is passed to the web server to the database server and it brings in the results ok, so what is a form, there are different sizes of forms, there are different types of forms, there are many things, now remember one thing that once you are creating your web based database applications ok that you don't do on a daily basis that is done very infrequently and that is probably one of the most difficult parts of this project of this course of this work which you are going to do, the reason being that you are not doing the things on a routine basis, so it is difficult to master those things which are done infrequently because you don't have to master them, so that is going to take a lot of time and that is going to take a lot of effort also, so there are two approaches to go about getting these things done, one approach is that you engage a consultant and that consultant will set up all the things for you, will prepare the pages for you and will guide you, will help you and you do this task in a less painful way, the other option is that there are different ISPs which will the internet service providers which will or the database service providers which will do this for you as part of the package of the hosting package, which you engage with them, which you develop with them, which you sign with them and those things will be done, now remember one thing, the benefits of doing these things using a database approach will outweigh, will outweigh, will outweigh the effort which has gone into it, there are many many benefits as I discussed in a prior module also that all the effort which you have done in designing your database, in putting up all the things in order and sending the data in the database populating your database and generating the pages from that database will help you reduce the maintenance effort will help you reduce the maintenance cost also and that is going to be very beneficial for you, right or not? Okay, now there are tools and there are resources, there are naming tips also, there are many things which need to be taken into consideration because once you have decided what you are going to do then you have to select the tools which will do the task for you, you have to select the internet service provider, you have to select the database service provider, you have to develop the screen, the font, the formatting, how things are going to be arranged on the screen, if you recall I spoke about these things when we discussed the certain steps of putting a small e-commerce business on the web, now what the people see is your personality is your company which they see on your web-based database application, right or not? Now you could be developing that application from the scratch, you could be developing that application building upon it on the internet which is seen by your co-workers or you could be combining the databases or data sources from multiple companies and coming up with something and of course you have to promote it, you have to manage the site also what the users see, what you see, right but remember one thing that there will be many many people who will be coming to your website looking at the resources using your website, you have to ensure the security of your web-based database applications of your web application also, you have to ensure that only those things are done which you have allowed to be done, things are validated at the client side, things are validated at the server side and things are happening as per your plan, so you have to take into consideration all of these things other than promoting your site, these are the management parts of your website and we'll go into lots of details how and when you're going to do it when I go into the detail part of this course.


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So for me, finding a church was really complicated. So you've been thinking, maybe you've prayed a little bit about finding a church to attend. How do you find a church that's just right for you? For example, let's think about social media that allows people to see a little piece of our life from a video or from a picture. So why don't you use that to see what your friends are doing in their own church? So here's the thing, man, community. You want to be around people who embody the same beliefs and standards that you live by. It's a comfortable feeling. It's a natural approach. And where they simply allow you to let you be you.