Oh, we're live. Hi, everybody. We're, uh, we're experimenting. Welcome to our experiment. I'm just learning StreamYard to anybody who's watching. Yeah. It's pretty cool. I'm telling the discord that was this.  Yeah. Hey, Clinton. Oh, you mean like this? Yeah. Hey, like that. Wait, I'm going to go on a long monologue. So you'll want to single on me. Oh, wait, that's you. Oh, it's still me. Yeah. Yeah. How do I get you there? Uh, good question. Oh, I think you want to, you'll have to go down. So it'll default to you in those, those commands underneath. So you'll have to click on the solo layout button that's down in my little thumbnail to get to me. Oh, I'm sure there's easier ways to do this that Joe can tell you. Wait, but it's still like, do you see when I do this? Yeah. It's still, it just goes solo to you. Yeah. That's the solo me. And then, yeah, how do you get me with cinema layout? What's that? Okay. Sorry. We're just trying to figure this out. Jeremy, try a good job. Hey, Technomanche. Good to see you on a weekend. Is it a drag and drop? I don't think so. No, I don't think so. Oh, wait. Well, yeah, you'll want to, you'll want to get Joe's input on the best way to do these. Right. Cause like I'm going to want a lot of the times probably like Sarah, I would want Sarah in there. Yeah. You're going to want to not have it always choosing you. So hold on. I'm going to do it. If it, if I choose, it chooses you. And if I choose, oh, it does, it chooses me as a wide. Yeah. So you could go to shot solo. So wait, I think you can have another. I think you can add a new layout. Okay. That's probably what it is. I'm going to do this live. Let's see what happens. Media shot. Oh, geez. You have to like move it around. Okay. I'm just, okay. Everybody, everybody can see this, right? Yeah. Well, they can't see anything, but what the two camera shots, they don't see your interface. Right. Oh, see, I don't want me. I want you. ATF 87. How do I change? Oh, Jeremy says you can drag host to the window. Drag Tom over you. Oh, really? Okay. I thought you were just, you were just, uh, because most YouTube comments aren't helpful. I assumed yours wasn't I apologize. Really? Just drag. It's not, he's not dragging. Interest song. There's got to be a way to grab him. Oh, look, oh, how'd I do that? So on the screen. Oh, yeah, but if I'm solo, how do I drag you? You're not here. Yeah, I don't know. Do you know what I'm saying? I'm sure there's a way. And again, Joe, Joe would probably be like. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Forgive me, everybody. I'm just pressing buttons because it's fun. Woohoo. The last time I did live switching was on, uh, the tricaster. So this is different. I don't. And honestly, most of the time you can just keep two people up. Yeah. Just go solo, solo two and then occasional two shot with, with the screens. Yeah. But if I wanted to go solo to you from here, you choose solo layout on me. Ah, I see. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Okay. I have to remember this. Well, it won't be perfect the first time, but that's how you learn. But at least you now, you know what questions to ask. Yeah, exactly. Okay. There we go. Look, we're chatting. Hi. Uh, hi. What's up? Wrong direction. Um, all right. Okay. So, uh, what are we streaming? We should talk about my demon and sundry and Nana tour and new G idols video. I don't know anything else. Um, well, we'll see. YouTube comments aren't useful as the name of my cover band. Thanks for your help, Jeremy. That was, that was definitely helpful. Uh, okay. I'll put this in the comments for folks. Hey, John. Nice to see you. Oh, it didn't put my line breaks. Boo. Uh, so my demon. Is anybody watching my demon? Anybody watching K drama? You're just going to listen to us talk because which is fine. If you're just here to hear us chat, that's fine. They might get lost. Eileen's worried that you're going to be bored and I'm not. I'll be toilet condolce. What are you doing here? Good to see you. Um, yes. Let's talk about my demon. So my demon is a K drama on Netflix and it just ended the finale was last night. It's a 16 episode run and it ran weekly. I don't know since end of November. They had a couple of weeks that they were on a break for like Christmas week. And New Year's or something like that. But I think I was satisfied with the ending. Um, I gave it a eight out of 10. I think because I've watched so many K dramas, I thought there was some real creativity at the beginning of the show and then towards the middle. I was like, okay, it's going. It's going there. Also, I was really hoping for a surprise for the villain and that didn't happen. Um, but that's okay too. Uh, there was really no redemption for the villain. Not that we really needed that, but I guess I'm just always looking for a creative surprise and I shot. I thought the show was really creatively presented. And then at the end of the day, it was the villain that we thought and then, you know, an ending that I think, um, uh, and sorry, I was reading a comment and ending that, you know, is just a good ending. Yeah, I agree. I think I'm a little more forgiving and I'd go nine because it was so much fun and the acting so good and, and there's some really great parts. And, and I know we talked about this while we were watching it last night, but I teared up a little, uh, at the end, uh, and, and so it got me, but I agree with you that I was expecting one more twist. Not that we didn't have twists, but I was expecting one more. And so there was a part of me. It's like, oh, okay. They kind of let that down. Also, this is a very minor spoiler, but the, um, the office worker who was like, I didn't get a boyfriend before the end of the year.  I guess to show that she had family in the two other coworkers, but I thought we were going to get one more shoe drop on that. Not that it was important or anything, but that was one, one little string I felt was left dangling a little bit, but, but honestly, like if that's my, what I'm picking on, that's virtually nothing. Right. So anyways, this is the show that we're talking about my demon. This is our demon. This is our real life human. And he's now either in the military or about to go in the military. We're not in real life in real life. Yeah, yeah, right. This actor, not the demon, like the demon character is going to go into the military. Um, but I use this, uh, my drama list.com to track my shows and, um, I often use it for, um, recommendations to enter. These are all the shows I've watched you guys like Chinese career. Yeah, I've watched so many since 2018 and I've been doing a pretty good job tracking them all. Um, and I always look at the rating here and, um, an 8.5 is a decent rating. Anything 8.5 and above is pretty darn good. And you should give it a shot. If it's below 8.5, that's when you're like, well, do I like the actor? Do I like just the premise? I could forgive things that may not be amazing, but just, you know, going into it. Um, now if you're watching live, you don't know. You're just going along with everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're, if you're like, I don't know, maybe I might want to watch my demon. I can safely say that at 8.5, this could be worth your while if you like fantasy, if you like fantasy romance and you know, stuff like that. But if this is not like, look at here, you could see the genres too. Like this is not your genre. If you only want political dramas, do not go here. Do not watch this. Just giving you everything that you need to know as a primer, um, before, uh, watching. And then you have to be careful though, because when you start scrolling down, you'll see reviews and you're like, Oh, this person did not like it. Oh, 5.0 for the story. Or you'll get spoilers in the reviews sometimes too. Well, and there's also comments and then there's comments here that could give you spoilers, but there's also these reveal spoilers too. So I don't know. Does it say TF 87 has a good point because I run into this with a lot of people who are like, I love K-dramas, but you know, not a big fan of subtitles. Um, does it say on there whether they're dubbed or not? Cause Netflix dubs a lot of stuff these days. I don't know if it does. I don't know if it does, but if it's on Netflix, you could pretty much be guaranteed that it will. I'd say 90%. Yeah. Yeah, 90%. Yeah. And then, um, yeah, you get episode guides here. Wow. This is the average ratings. Oh, interesting. I haven't used this in a while. Cast and crew info, even the director and the writer, they may have some images. You, they may have directed other shows. All the reviews. Who's right. Oh, recommendations. Interesting. Would you say I can make recommendations. What's that? I'm like, is this mine? No, I didn't write that. Okay. Anyway, yeah, that like an eight is minimum or set are some sevens. Okay. I have watched shows that have gone into the sevens and I still enjoy it. But that's just me. So if you are just looking, I would avoid the sevens and go with anything eight and above. Just if you don't know anything about it. Now, if you just like it and it happens to be in the sevens, that's okay. That's, that's because you like it and that you're, you have every right to like it. Doesn't mean you have to agree with everybody. So yeah, I really like using this. Oh, and then, um, as a tracker, as you could see my, my list here. Yeah. If you log in. Yeah. If you log in and you could see here, um, these are what I'm currently watching. And then, um, I try and keep my progress up. Like, oh, see, like we just finished some Dolary. So I haven't finished that. So I'm going to live track it. I'm going to live track it for you guys. So when I go into completed, I like to also, oh, see, I forgot to put the start date. I always forget sometimes, but at least do the finish date. So I know when I finish the show and I am going to give it an 8.0 as well. I'm, I'm, I used to be really generous of my ratings and I feel like I need to go back and re-rate. Oh, and adjust my older. Yeah. Um, you're too nice. Then I'm a hit submit and now it should not. If I reload my list, it is, well, hold on. Is it not reloading? Oh yeah. It's gone. Now these are the only three that I'm watching. Mary, my husband is fantastic. It's live right now. Um, but yeah, some Dory, we just finished and then you just watched me finish the rating for me. Uh, where am I? Where's my demon? Okay. Let me go back to that. Yeah. I'm looking up to see if it's dubbed.  Okay. Yeah, but here you've got a lot of details. When it, when it, uh, debuted the airing, you know, oftentimes my drama, my drama list will know when it's ending, when it airs, how you can watch is also important too, because there's some dramas here. Where to watch my demon. There's some dramas that I've been tracking that it's still not available. Like, uh, let me see the one that I really see in this, there's categories here currently watching completed. I have a lot completed plan to watch, which I have a lot planned to watch. I'm never going to get through all of them on hold and then flat out dropped. There's some that I'm just like, nope. Not going to. My deal and not dubbed. Oh, it's not. Oh, interesting. Maybe at some point though. Uh, let's see. What's one that I wanted to see? I forgot the name. Uh, should I just look up by you see IU. Oh, the one that we've been hunting forever. I cannot find it, uh, translated in England, moon lovers, scarlet heart, Rio. I really want to watch that, right? Um, and it's only now it's here. Oh, it's free. S B S V O D free. What does that mean? That means if you're in Korea on SBS, you can watch it. You could buy the DVD, I guess, or you or I could VPN into Korea Netflix, but I won't have any, um, subtitles. So then I won't understand. I see technical mention in tract, which I also use. The thing about my drama list is it's like way more comprehensive on Asian dramas because it's specifically for Korean and Chinese dramas and a few other areas. And the community too is like, they know they've all watched so I can trust. Uh, I've had trouble with tract where listings are incorrect or incomplete, uh, and that doesn't have the reviews and community aspect of it. It doesn't always have the, all the actors listed, um, because it's pulling from IMDB, which doesn't always have all the actors listed. So tract is great and I totally use it, but my drama list is kind of supplementary. If you're like, if you're indicate dramas that you're going to get more from it. Yeah. I just like to have a community that I know they, these are avid, uh, Asian drama watchers. And I prefer to have the conversation. If it's, if it's a little more broad, you're going to get less of that. And I don't, I just don't care. So, and I think, uh, it's, if you're like, Oh, I really liked the person who played the demon or, or I like the person who played do do he, you can use my drama list to find very easily everything they've been in. Whereas IMDB kind of has that, but not, not always. Like it's not always complete. So here's our demon and he's also in sweet home. If you've watched sweet home, uh, he is one of the monsters and then you could see the rest of his, he also played a, uh, a ballet, uh, what do you, it's not a ballerina. What do you call a guy about a ballet dancer anyway? He plays a ballet dancer, uh, and who befriends an old man and teaches, uh, this adjussee how to do dance, how to dance. Nice. Yeah. It's a, it's a very heartwarming, another heartwarming one, but he actually really trained, you know, to get some, you know, ballet techniques and his body is really great. So he could, and he's so tall. It's just very, it looks great. Anyway, that's a good one and it's highly rated at 8.9 because it's not good. Yep. Um, and yeah, so you could see everything like he debuted in this hello spring in 2015 and then you could see and it's going to stop here because he's got to go to the military and they have like a little bio. Um, you could see even a movie that he's been in or any TV shows, variety shows that he's been in. Um, oh, he was the main host of Incogayo in 2018. Wow. I didn't really. Oh, yep. For a good, almost, you know, 10 months there. That's pretty good. A lot of the actors host a lot of the music shows too. Oh, and then they've got articles that are about him or if he's tangentially mentioned, they'll link to that too. Um, and then, yeah, that's what I like about my drama list is just to me. If you're really into Asian dramas in general and they have, if you go into the homepage, you'll see, um, let's scroll down a bit. These are the top shows. Oh, yeah. Of course, Mary, my husband is number one right now with the my drama list because it's that good. And this is Korea and then you could tab in China. My boss is the one that everybody's watching right now. And these are current shows on the air. If it's already off the air, it won't be on this tracker anymore, or if it's a Netflix and you just binge the show, it won't ever show up on this list because this is for top airing shows. Uh, and then there's Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Thailand. So they cover a lot of Asian countries, which is awesome if you're very interested in. Maybe you don't want to watch a Korean drama, but you're like, oh, what's going on in Thailand? Okay. Well, they're watching last Twilight, whatever that is, and then you go in here and look. Um, so, and then you could see the top upcoming shows as predicted by the community on my drama list. Um, this is kind of where I start to try. Oh, killer paradox. Yeah, this is one we should probably add because it's, um, uh, what's his face from Parasite, uh, the, the sun, um, Oh, the Wuga clan guy? Yeah. Wushik. Wushik. Oh, Wushik. Yeah. Uh, and then, oh, this guy, remember this guy? So, so cool. He was the guy in all the beer ads in Korea when we were there. Oh, right. He was everywhere. Yeah. Well, he's in that too. Okay. This is a Netflix one. It's a Netflix one. I don't know if this is a week to week, or if this is a, uh, you know, all, because sometimes they'll just give it to you. I'll binge. It just depends on if it's airing on another network. It may just, yeah, I don't know. A killer paradise. A killer paradox paradox. Uh, Lee Tang, an ordinary college student who gets into an argument with a customer during a part-time job at a convenience store at night unconsciously swings a hammer and kills him suffering from guilt and murder and fear of murder. Lee Tang learns one day that the person he killed was a serial killer and slowly realizes that he has a supernatural ability to identify bad seeds. Oh, yeah, I've seen the trailer, but I forgot what it was. He soon becomes a dark hero and punishes people who committed unethical evils in the past. Um, we mentioned Wuga clan. And if you don't know what that is, it is a group of, um, celebrities that are best friends, including Park Seo June, who is in Gyeongsang creatures. Uh, Vee, who is one of my favorites of BTS and a few others. So, um, anyway, that's why we're interested in that because we like the guys in the Wuga, it's just their self-proclaimed friendship name. So this, uh, killer killer paradox is coming out February 9th and it says original network Netflix. So I'm guessing it will get them all at once. Actually, speaking of Wuga clan, this is one of the other members, Dr. Slump Park, uh, Hyeongsik. Uh, yeah.  Do you remember Sisyphus? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So she was in that since, um, she took a little break because she got married, had a baby and she's back. Um, and in this movie called Dr. Slump, which is also on Netflix, um, which I'm super excited about and, cause I like both of them and they're basically both doctors who are going in this like in different ways going through their own slumps, um, in their careers. Oh, we watched the trailer for this. I remember. Yeah. Yeah. Remember you're like, oh, I've watched the whole show because the trailer was so long. It was like five minutes and it seemed like they gave us the whole story. So this is another good one. I think, um, we're going to want to add, oh, this one starts on Saturday. So this one's going to replace. I wonder if this one replaces one of the two that we're not watching anymore. Well, it's JTBC. So were the others, which, which of the others were JTBC? Cause that would make sense. Oh, Sam, Sam Dahlri was. So this replaces Sam Dahlri. Yeah. And it, and it's available on Netflix if you're not in Korea, but it'll come out to two, you know, two episodes a week, two episodes a week cause it's airing on JTBC. Okay. So this is a good one. Let me add so and then see here. I'll be like, right, let me remind myself. So I'm going to add this to my list, uh, plan to watch and just submit. Boom. Yeah. Oh, I got it. I got to do the same for paradox. So anyway, this is a good way for me to remember like, oh, what are some of the newer shows that are coming out? Um, like I totally mean, we were just discussing like, I don't know. I can't remember. But oh, right. Let me go on my drama list and it will tell me and I had seen both of these trailers. I just forgot flex X cop. What is this? This is on SBS. Can we get it? How do we watch it? Oh, we made some of these shows we can't watch. They're just not available. We also have Vicky, which is, um, this app here. Let's see if I can do Vicky.com. It's from Japan's Rocketton and Oh, it's Japanese. Yeah. Rocketton is a Japanese company, but oh, sorry. I thought you meant flex X cop. I was like, what? Vicky is owned by Rocketton. Rocketton is Japanese. Um, but, uh, but everything on there is across Asia, China, Thailand, Japan, Korea, obviously a bunch of Korean dramas. Okay. J. G. J. I have not gotten a chance to watch any Bollywood just because I've been so in my K drama. There's so many shows. So we watch, um, all the K dramas that we mentioned and will be coming and then we watch a lot of music shows and we watch a lot of vlogs from our famous, our favorite K-pop, um, groups. And so by then I've already, I don't have enough time in the day. I do want to check out some of the Bollywood stuff because it's supposed to be really, really awesome. So hopefully I can, you know, carve out a little bit of time to do that sometime. Uh, let's see here. Queen of divorce. What is that about? I've totally skipped on talking about my demon and we don't even talk about Samdory, but I'm like, what's out? What's coming out? Um, oh wait, this guy, this is the guy from extraordinary Woo, the boss that got sick and also the evil guy in Uncanny Counter too. Season two. Yeah. Yeah. So he is going to be with her. Lee. What is Lee Geaubin and she looks familiar. She has been in. Her name sounds familiar. Oh, penthouse. My mister. My mister. Okay. Uh, that's where we saw her. That's where I saw her. I didn't watch penthouse. I couldn't do it. This is just, I couldn't. Yeah. I couldn't do penthouse. One of the most popular dramas. It was just too much. It was. Oh, even I couldn't watch it. Um, meaning is just so over the top, like talk, think about sobopras. Like times 10, like American sobopras times 10, like times 10, like even primetime American drama. If anybody saw Sky Castle, it's like worse than Sky Castle is what you were telling me. It's worse. It's worse. Yeah. And Sky Castle is a little, what they call Makchang genre, but is it? Is Sky Castle considered Makchang? I don't, I don't think so. I think it's more drama, but it's just over the top and like everybody, like you can totally guarantee that most couples are corrupt. Uh, it's like one of those like, Oh, we saw her die in the explosion in the van, but no, she's alive. Like what? Like, you know, like that, but I don't know. I'm not really explaining it well, but it's, it's, it's just over the top crazy. Uh, okay. So then that's Queen of Divorce. Oh, wait, what is it about? Let's see. Queen of Divorce. I didn't even like bother to look at it. Uh, Queen of Divorce, I'm guessing he's a divorce lawyer. Is that what this is about? Let's see. Daughter-in-law, the biggest firm in South Korea, but she was betrayed by her husband, lost everything after that. She began working as a divorce troubleshooter. Oh, so it's like a marriage counselor. She is now the team leader of the settlement office solution. She punishes bad spouses and provides help for this.  Okay. It could be, it could be good. It's just, he has the nickname German shepherd. He picked up the nickname because his persistence and keen intuition, but key June up the prosecutor's office for an unknown reason. Oh, unknown reason. Yeah, mystery. Because we're, we're definitely like at the end of a couple of watches, well, you're watching Mary, my husband, which I feel like I should have started watching because it sounds great. It was when you were a CES and a lot of people on TikTok, they were like, you need to watch Mary, my husband because it's a time travel thing, right? Yes. So basically, all right, I will talk, let me, let me talk about, this is my favorite drama right now. My Mary, my husband, I don't know why the poster, why they decided to upload the horizontal poster. Anyway, she, oh wow, you can't even change it. Interesting. Anyway, she, our lead here, her, I forget what her actual, I want to, I can't remember what her actual character's name is. She has cancer in the present day and she's married to someone who is just waiting for her to die and is actually cheating on her behind the scenes with her best friend, like her only friend. And she ends up dying. I'm not going to explain how and then she is Kong, Kong G1. Kong G1. Oh yeah, G1. G1 is okay. And she, she last remembers dying, but she wakes up 10 years earlier in 2013 and is seemingly able to live her life all over again. And she is very scared about what's happening, but she decides she's not going to make the same mistakes and is trying to- If you could do it all over again, kind of thing. Yeah, that kind of thing.  And so, yeah, so it's just, how does she overcome? Are things going to end up the same? But even if they do, can she just like clean slate and, you know, be rid of the bad things in her life like her horrible boyfriend?  But this guy is the guy that you're going to want to like. He's amazing. Yeah, G1. Anyway, it is 6- 8.7, not bad. Yeah, yeah, no. It's because everybody loves it. And oh, it's based after a popular manga. So that's how it got a lot of traction on most. Most of these dramas are based off of a manga, but this one is supposedly something that was like really, really, really popular. And well, there's a webtoon. So I think manga is like a little high. No, this is webtoon. Sorry. This is a webtoon. Okay. Okay.  As a fan of the webtoon. And then I've seen because I've posted a little bit on Instagram about it and some people like, well, I'm kind of disappointed they went this way. I'm like, okay. I don't I don't know. Okay. Sorry for you. I don't I'm not going to read the webtoon. Sometimes that always happens though. There's always somebody who read the book or the webtoon or whatever who's like, it's not exactly the same. Kind of way. And I mean, I after a drama and I really like it, I always want to and then I never do. So I'm just I'm just well, no, I just don't bother reading the webtoon like I thought I might because I wanted to I just wanted to read it and relive the story even if it was a little bit different. I just I've moved on to the next drama. Anyway, she's one of my favorite actresses Parkman Young. I've seen her in so many K dramas, including one of my most favorite K dramas ever what's wrong with Secretary Kim, which is a romantic office drama with our Wuga clan member parks. Anyway, and it's just it's it's getting a lot of buzz right now. And if you are BTS Army, they used BTS in a way that was very essential to the plot like it wasn't just oh, I like listening to them or like just playing a song of theirs. BTS was in a very was a very important plot point to this show and every but all army went crazy. Who's watching this? Well, because she goes back to 2013, right? Yeah, and if your army you know that 2013 is when they did yes, debuted. So, you know, we won't spoil the moment for you.  Yeah.  And anyone else from the future might recognize their discography? Could there be other people from the future living in 2013? Who's to say? Anyway, that's what's so amazing about this and also you it's a I don't want to say typical but it is there's some I've watched so many revenge plots lately and this is one of them. She's this feels very reborn rich to me in a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Like I don't know what happens at the end. I'm not sure if she will eventually die but she's just going to live her life and make sure that it is left in a better state than when she left it before, you know, because her character when she dies was not only sick but she was also me like she just let people walk over her and in this version you could see her like slowly and not like suddenly but just slowly go wait a minute.  Well, it's that it's that benefit of of experience. You know, if you could do it all over again, would you do it the same again going to that premise? It's kind of cool. Twinkling watermelon I guess is similar, although we're only part of the way through. Well, it's like, yeah, this is supposed to be really, really good and we're not we're only two episodes in and it's also another time travel story and I'm like already forgotten exactly what's going on. Yeah, I'm just saying like there are others out there that are kind of in that same that same vein of like if you could go back and do it all over again, knowing what you know now. That seems to be a popular theme in a lot of exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, we like those time travel type stories and I'm a sucker for the time travel stuff. I really like that. That's why I'm jealous. Maybe I'll try it. Should I catch up or should I just jump in? But I'm not going to wait for you. So if you can't Monday or Tuesday, I'm not waiting. So that's what I'm saying. Like should I catch up or should I just jump in in the middle? You know, but you won't care about the key. You'll be confused. We're six episodes in. There's so much that's happened and it's it's one of those. Like I feel starting to get complicated time travel stories. So if you don't know. You'll be like, what?  But there's a certain sense of satisfaction when certain things happen that I think you should. You should see even though. Yeah, it's kind of. I don't know. Obvious. Don't you're saying it's it's worth not skipping like it's not. It's not a kind of show where you could like if you just know a couple of facts, you're fine. Like it's it's worth going going back and watching it. I think so. It's only episodes. They're not an hour and a half with business proposal too where you watch the whole thing and then I had to go back and watch it on my own because it was so good. My fav. That's definitely one of my favorite, favorite, favorite ever. I and when you started watching it, I'm like, I'll watch it again. Yeah, I love that much. I mean, I didn't watch it as carefully the second time with you.  I know you were like having to keep yourself quiet because you're like, oh, yeah. It's so good. That was funny. So any other thoughts on my demon? I guess not. You tell me. Yeah, I don't know. Like it's it's a if you like Tales of the Gumiho it's got a very goblin like feel, but I would never put it in the same class. It's goblin is in a class by itself, but I don't know. My tales of the Gumiho, you know, we should equate it to something more Western, I guess. I don't know. Like why would you just so that people who don't watch K dramas can understand where how it's comparable. No. Yeah. I don't know what to do though. Don't either. I don't either. I assume there's some people who know these these shows or have tried these shows, especially something like goblin. But yeah, in in in Western terms, I don't I don't even know. I don't even know what to what to compare it to. They're it's it's a good it's very religious, which I was surprised by. It's very Christian. Like it's in the Christian mythology. So when I say that, I don't mean it's like preachy or anything, but it's like, oh, like there's a lot of references to Christian mythology and and, you know, Christian beliefs and there's a priest and one of the one of the relatives of one of the main character converts to Catholicism at one point to try to win points and that kind of thing. So it's interesting in that way. So it's very much like, yeah, this is a demon, but there's a God character. It's kind of funny. It's interesting take on on true. Yeah, true, true, true. And I feel like it's a good. I would compare it to tales of Gumiho because Gumiho was Ninetail Fox, Eastern mythology, not even Buddhist mythology, just just Eastern mythology in general. Whereas my demon is very Western mythology, demons and gods and angels and stuff like that. Sorry, I'm trying. I was just like, oh, I could show a comment like that. I didn't yeah. Yeah, good. Just tap on it. But then don't lose it. Because what do you mean? Because if it scrolls all the way up, then you have to go find it to unhide it. Oh, I see. I see. I see. Yeah. Okay. We're not scrolling that fast in our chat right now. So it's not a big deal, but if you do have like lots of people chatting, I can get away from it. Oh, but like, see, I could do this where it's like, these are the, this is what we're talking about. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Cool. Sorry. Still learning a street art. Okay. Let's talk about Somdolri then. Somdolri is a very like hometown-y show. It's a love story. It's a, and I think for people who aren't as familiar with K-dramas, very much a story about the bubble of the internet and outrage culture and canceling people and stuff is a huge theme here too. Yeah, for sure. For sure. I think Somdolri, we call it a Comfort Watch. Yeah, I would. It is one of those like heartwarming dramas that although our lead actor here, let me get her name right. Oh, Shin Hee Sun. She plays Somdol, Somdolri. Jo Somdol. And she is a photographer in the big city of Seoul and gets caught in this bullying scandal, which is totally untrue, but nobody wants to believe her. Surprise, surprise. The media runs with, you know, what they think is true without getting all the facts. And so, and then everybody cancels her on social media. Yeah, she gets canceled. She loses her job. She had an exhibition.  Her assistant supposedly tries to end her life because of this bullying from her. And so, Somdol decides to leave Seoul and take a break from everything. She lives with her sisters and her sisters are going through some stuff and they all decide to go back to Jeju Island, which is where they grew up. And in particular, a place, a suburb or a city called Somdolri. And her parents are all, they're shocked that she's back and she basically was kind of hiding from the town for the longest time because of some broken relationships with her ex here. And her ex's family, her family and his family were tight. And then there was an incident involving his mother when she died that caused a rift between both families. And then, yeah.  And also, you know, trying to write, trying to, like, there are things that will happen that will help her recover from this cancellation. And it's, you know, it's a show with a lot of heart. It's a show with a lot of heart. It's very much a feel good, like, you know, what's important is family and not even, you know, you're in your related family, although that's part of it, but also your found family, your friends, your community, the henyos who dive in and, you know, literally dive in the sea and collect shellfish. It's a, it's a, it's a very like small town community feel good story. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot what I was going to say, but yeah. So it's, um, I think I would, I kind of want to give it an 8.5, but we've seen so many other dramas like this and there's one in particular hometown cha-cha-cha, which is our favorite, my favorite, your favorite, one of our favorite. And when I mean favorite, like, where is it cha-cha hometown? Why can't I, oh, here it is. When I mean favorite, this show, like, we are potentially thinking that a future trip in Korea, we would go find the locations of this show. Yeah. When we were in Korea this year, we kept going like, oh, is that where the lighthouse is? Is that where, should we should go over to where the lighthouse is? Yeah, but we didn't, we didn't. And a lot of people, this show is so popular that the city where it was filmed, they left some of the move or some of the show props up. And you can go visit, just look from the outside. Yeah, yeah. The dentist office, right? Is still like the signage is still up and stuff. The cafe. Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, there's just, anyway, this is the ultimate. If you're thinking about a show about community and there's like, if you want a show where there is a lot of characters, even though these are the two main characters, all of them matter and it's a, it's really well written and another heartwarming thing. But this is the current version of that. It's not as good, but it's good. It's good. So, um, yeah, I just, I think with Sam Delri, I don't know, I shouldn't give it an 8.5 if I gave my demon an 8.0 because they're both kind of in the same. I think, I think I should go 8.0 for this as well. I feel like I feel the same. I gave my demon a 9. So that's easier for me. But I would give hometown cha cha cha at least at 8.5 if not a 9. And by the way, a lot of people were giving my demon 10s.  I'm like 10, 10 really? You've never seen anything better than that. You can never give anything a 10. Come on. Hold on. Calm yourselves. I can. Crash Landing on you is a 10. Okay. But that's it, right? Like you're, you're very sparing with it. No, my personal rating because of how important it is to me to kicking off my love of K-dramas, I will give Goblin a 10 because that, but I don't expect everybody to do that. I never do, but everybody should give Crash Landing on you into you a 10. That is elite standard of K-dramas. I feel like I need to rewatch it to remember how good it is, but I just know like in my heart of hearts that that was the standard. Oh, major spoilers. Steven, good to see you, Steven. Let me do this here. My wife is watching and enjoying boys over flowers. So that is a guilty pleasure show that show in when it when it aired. I think it was 2010, 2011. I don't know when it originally aired. It was that early. That was like the show in Korea and the lead actor. He became 2009. He became the lead actor became a why a home like he his stardom blew up and he's still one of the most sought after actors today. He was in Pachinko most notably in the in the last several years. He's kind of slowed down since coming back from the military. He has only been doing like. Oh, it's the Thai version that she's been to see. So boys over flowers. The very first Asian drama I actually watched was the Chinese version of this meteor garden, but it wasn't the original the original meteor garden was from Taiwan and that was in 2006 or something. I watched the Chinese mainland version from 2018. That was my very first Asian drama ever boys over flowers are there so many. There's Japanese and there's the Thai. There's like this has been there's there's boys over flowers. Then there's meteor garden. Then there's a multiple countries. Yeah, so meteor garden was from Taiwan was first. Okay, then I don't know what came next, but then the next big one was Korea's boys over flower. They changed the title, but it's the same story basically. So I ended up watching boys over flowers later and I mean like maybe a year later because I was like I should watch it because I'm starting to watch K dramas and I'm like, oh, and there was a lot of the same plot points they had changed the names and it's obviously in Korea versus China or Taiwan. So it's going to be a little bit of different, but I ended up watching them the Chinese mainland version first media day. So basically China rebooted meteor garden with has all the same names from the original Taiwan version as you can understand, but they just updated it for the modern age and I really enjoyed it even though it was honestly I look back and I'm like, it's not that good. And sorry, neither. Yeah, nothing to compare it to yet. I had nothing to compare it to and when I watch boys over flowers, I was like, oh God, I still enjoyed it even though I was cringing half the time. So it's just you could read the synopsis for boys over flowers and you know, it's a high school drama. And yeah, I think coming of age inter interrelationships who should I always be a there will there will always be a a need for that kind of story and this in particular this boys over flowers story feels like will always they'll always be a version of it somewhere. We had just gone through the move into this house and we were super stressed out and so this was your like take your mind off the hook watch meteor garden. So as I look back, it is not one of the best Chinese dramas I've ever seen, but it just helped me get into it and I was like, oh cool high schoolers and you know, I think they were in Singapore. I don't know where not Singapore Shanghai and I was like, this is kind of fun and then that launched me into watching a lot of Asian dramas from from there on out Chinese and Korean mostly. Yeah, you started watching more Chinese dramas. Not that you don't still watch some, but it over time it shifted to be more Korean dramas. Yeah, I I think what happened was I was really into Wusha and Jauncha, but I also liked, you know, like the teen dramas and stuff and then I was interested in learning Mandarin, but then I always knew that like people are still talking about K dramas and then slowly I started once they've watched Goblin, which was a year, not even a year, probably just like six months later after watching Meteor Garden. Then I was like, wait a minute. And then yeah, and the Chinese dramas, especially the Wusha, the fantasy ones like, you know, the sword fighting and all of that. Those those are like 40, 50 episodes, sometimes even 60 episodes long. So long it would when you start like you're committed true, they're 45 minutes, but like a Korean drama is only like 16 or 20. And even though there can be like an hour and a half sometimes that's still less than the 40 or 50. Okay. So a Chinese drama is like for air about 45 minutes because they have ads, but two minutes at the top is the theme song two minutes. You can knock another four ending theme songs. You can knock four. So it's really 40 minutes. That's a good point. Yeah. And it flies. That's why they are able to make Korean dramas on Netflix are shorter now. They're like an hour or less, but like traditional broadcasts are definitely like an hour and 15 if not an hour and a half per episode. Yeah. So you're watching basically a movie, which now movies are three hours and I can't do movies. I can't do them anymore. Like Sondilri is listed as 16 episodes of an hour in 10 minutes. I know, but I'll watch two episodes of that instead of going to see a movie. That's how I that's and I think maybe it's because of episodic television and you get to know the characters more and I also don't like going to movie theaters anymore. Yeah, I'm one of those, but it's not that I won't go to movie theater. What does that mean?  I didn't know it was like a like you get branded as one of those people. I thought it was one of those. I'm one of those.  Yeah, I don't buy into that. It's just just your taste. It's your personal taste. You don't want to you don't want to go to theater. Also, it's just now a year from now. I might be like, yeah, you might change theater.  We've gone to see a few movies. So yeah, okay. Major spoilers. So also poor movie experiences. Keep me away.   But we don't. I hear I don't know if this is what Steven's saying or not, but a lot of people are like, oh, it's just, you know, loud and the film projector is broken and people talk. I don't feel like we have that experience where we don't because we're not we don't go to like Hollywood to watch. You know, yeah, yeah, it depends on where you go. And though we live in LA, we're not going down to Hollywood to watch the movies. We're, you know, in the suburbs. So I think, yeah, but but also like part of the experience is like getting to the theater in LA, even 10 minutes from our house is like, because there could be an accident or we mean, I don't know parking as a pain sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I don't know every little inconvenience. I'm like, it's so much easier to stay at home and just watch the movie, although you don't get the great sound. That's the only thing that I do like. And you like that AMC theater? What is it? I like the AMC 40 X. No, no, no, not the 40 X. No, no, no, no. That's the stuff where you're shaking and you have the wind and the water. What's the one you like? No, no, no, no, no. I like the, what is it called? I have to look it up, but it's basically like it's like the rumble seats. Like you get the Dolby sound and you get the comfy chair that reclines. I like, once I'm in the theater, I'm great. I feel good, but it's just getting in there is like, I don't know what happens. It's like, it just doesn't want to happen. But what are those seats called? AMC comfy seats. AMC comfy seats. We know which theater it is when we book Century City. So. Yeah. It's like seats, theater 13. Yeah, they're like power recline. They have a special name. They're comfy. They're nice. We also went to the, what was the one in Glendale that we went to that has like the comfy seats and they bring the phone to you. A look also now they have food, but is that food really good? No, it is like from Costco. Most of the food that you buy from Costco. Yes, it is not good. It's better than that. Makes it sound like it's a 99 cent hot dog. It kind of is sometimes like, I'm sorry. I disagree. I think the food is more like TGI Fridays. Now, okay. Yeah. There you go. The food is edible, but for the price is not what you're paying for. That's what I'm saying.  That's what you're paying. Like you could buy all those ingredients. They buy their ingredients at Costco and then they make it. That's what it is. It's not like that's what you think. Okay. No, I know it. I know you've done it. You've sneaked in. You've looked. I can read there. I smell the food. I smell the Kirkland on these nachos. It's Kirkland. It really is a thousand percent. Okay, wait. So a major spoilers is we have an AMC classic, which means the theater has a bit. Oh, since the front. And so if you don't have good seats, that's another thing like the old rickety seats. They're not changing that. That's just not comfortable. Like, um, okay, Shane. Yes. See, we have a Cinnabar near us and it's basically a limited Applebee's. Yeah. That that feels right. That feels like the right comparison. Definitely limited, limited. It's not even full on Apple. Applebee's is limited. So I don't know. Uh, anyway. So Sondlery is a feel good. So I'm just trying to get us back to it because I want to talk about not a tour.  But at the very end, they do it like, but the city's okay too. We don't want to offend all the city people. Uh, it's just kind of funny. Uh, the other thing we've been watching is not a tour, uh, which you have to buy, right? That you can't stream that for free. Correct. I'm trying to hold on. I am not locked in PD. Nah, uh, if anybody knows is the game caterers guy. If you've ever look up game caterers, it's like a, it's a reality game show thing where they, they play games, uh, they often have celebrity guests. Uh, and it's, it's fun. Uh, PD. Nah knows exactly how to make a, a fun, uh, variety show, game show kind of thing. So look that up. That's worth watching. Uh, and he has a series where he hijacks people when they don't know it's happening. It's called something. And now I'm blanking on what it's called. It's called boys over flowers. Is it called boys over flowers? No, but it's, it's something like that. Boys without flowers. Yeah. Yeah. It's something like that. But he's got a series. And so he sometimes will do collaborations with K-pop groups. So he's done one with BTS, for example, he did a whole collaboration with the label Hybe, where he like hosted a picnic and played games with them. And he did one with the group 17, uh, and he gave them a prize where they could pick something for him to do thinking like, Oh, they're going to make me do a dance challenge or something like that, which I think they ended up also doing. Uh, but one of the teams that one said, we want to be in the boys over flowers show. We want to be hijacked without knowing it and taken somewhere, uh, and put through the ringer like you do with, with other, other guests. And you could see him live go like, I don't know if we could promise that. Like that's a lot of moving parts. We have to get your label on board. You have to fit it in your schedule. Uh, but they made it happen and they clearly made it happen in a way that the members of 17 did not know it was going to happen. They did fake schedules, uh, and, and really fooled them so that at like five in the morning one day, the, the folks show up and they're like, we're taking you to Italy and they're like, we can't go to Italy. We have all these schedules. Like surprise, your schedules were fake. We plan this with your manager and nobody else knew even the CEO of their label didn't know. Uh, and so they took them to Italy. It's called Nana tour because it's not exactly as grueling as his regular show. They actually do some, some more relaxing, fun things. I think to, to kind of make it less hard to interrupt the schedule of like, we'll actually give them a, a bit of a break. Uh, but it's, it's fun. So you're seeing them play games, uh, but also like tour around Italy. So it's kind of part travel log part variety show. I'm sorry. I'm still trying to log in. So keep talking. What are you trying to log into Weaver's? Yes, because it won't let, I'm, I was trying to show Chrome and it wouldn't let me do it. So, um, the stream yard. Okay. So we might have to stop down to do, uh, troubleshooting. You can't show Chrome. No, no, no, I couldn't show Safari. I had Nana tour on Safari and then I forgot. You should be able to show Safari. Did not show up. Nevermind. I'm not going to try and show up as a, as a window. Oh, probably, probably because it does. It just doesn't like Safari. Yeah, exactly. So there it is. Here's 17 and, um, I am a member of their community. These are all, no, this is not all the members. There are 13 members of a group called 17. I don't even want to describe why, but, um, well, it's easy. There are 13 members, uh, and then there are three performance teams that brings you to 16. And then there's the fans. That's 17. I'm going to, I'm going to just, um, go to us real quick and then do some, find the show. But yes, Nana tour is actually named after P.D. Nah. Nana. It's in his part. Is his name. Um, game caterers airs on TVN and you can find full, full episodes on YouTube, uh, on the channel full moon. It's, um, it's, it's fun. Uh, they do the famous people quiz. Where they like show you a picture and you have to guess, uh, you have to say who it is, which sounds super easy, but then when you have a string of like six people and they all have to do it in order and nobody, nobody fail. Uh, scream and silence was one that was on the most recent episode. That's where, uh, two players face each other wearing headphones, playing loud music so they can't hear each other and they have to, uh, one person can see a clue and the other person can't. And you have to mouth words that aren't the actual clue. You can't say the actual word, but mouth words that the other person has to lip read in order to guess what the clue is. Um, uh, Korean only ping pong is a game where you, uh, you cannot use, uh, borrowed words, uh, where there's a lot of borrowed words, uh, borrowed English words in Korean, uh, and other words, but mostly English words. Um, let's see. Word relay. Each player gets three seconds to answer. The game continues and no telepore is stumped. Sorry. Could you hear that? Could you hear that? I didn't hear anything. Oh, we don't want to show, we don't want to show too much video of this or we'll get like, I know. Yeah. Anyway, I was just trying to find a good like stopping place. Yeah. Anyway, these are the members right here. Um, and that's. So imagine like these, these fun little variety show games that are fun to see these, these folks play because PD now is really good at putting these games together and then they go on like a winery tour or, uh, visit an amazing restaurant or, you know, go to a gelato place and so it's, yeah, it's a, it's a good combo. That's not a chore. You did a good job. Thank you. Explaining. No, I'm not. I'm just, I was like trying to tech do the tech thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This will be, this will be interesting for me to do this when I don't really know it that well and then talk to Sarah. So yeah. Oh, it'll be a good practice tomorrow at around two p.m. We're going to do a workshop and, uh, we're just going to be talking about stuff. It's not a real show. It's just us talking about the show and what it could be. And so brainstorm. Yeah. You need people's ideas. Storm. It'll be really good for me to, to work through StreamYard and kind of understand how that works. Get folks in the chat to be like, oh, this is what we want. You know, we get the plenty of this from other shows. We want you all to tell us this. Exactly. Exactly. Like, yeah. So that's tomorrow. But yeah. Nonna Tour is really fun. Do you think Nonna Tour is fun for anyone who doesn't know 17 though? I don't think so. I don't know because you won't care. I think it's cool as a, I want to see Italy because they do some beautiful shots. They go on a hot air balloon tour. They show you a lot of Rome and now they're in Florence, Tuscany. So if you like it for that and if you just like watching variety shows, but I mean, when I watch variety shows like Jimmy Fallon and stuff like that, I also don't care if I don't know the people. That's true. You know, yeah, that's good. It's fun. It's fun to watch some of the games, but I'm not as invested unless like it's Taylor Swift playing the game. Like, I'm like, oh, this is cool. Let me see her. But if I don't know the singer or actress, I guess it's just got to be funny, but I won't necessarily seek to watch it. If that makes sense. And yeah, we know, we know 17 by now and at least as good as we can. And so there's an extra special. And we're still learning about them. I'm still learning. I don't I consider myself wet. The fandom of 17 is called they're called carrots and I myself am a baby carrot. And what that means is that you're just new to the fandom, you know, you and I am a baby carrot even though I've been I've known them for and I've seen them at concert. I've known them for about a year and a half now, but I don't consume all their content all the time to really know and they've been around since 2015 to really know them. Whereas BTS, I think I'm not a baby army anymore. I think I haven't been for a year and I'm proud of that by the way, I know I know the members of BTS very well. And I've seen going back in the day a lot like I would say 80% of their content. I've seen there's quite a bit I haven't seen, but I just don't know if I'm ever going to get to it. It's what we'll see and not that I don't want to, but I am trying to learn about 17. I'm watching K dramas and stuff like that. So I just I if not a tour was free, I'd say try it out even if you're not a 17 fan because they pay. I wouldn't pay for it until I would wait for it to be free. Yeah. Yeah. So there are we are paying for a version that gives us like two hours of content on YouTube. You'll be able to watch this eventually, but it'll only be an hour per episode. It'll be the episode that aired on there's so there's a broadcast version and then there's you must I don't know if you said this already and there's a paid version which we pay for and we just get so much more, but wait for it to be on YouTube and then you know, see if you like it because it's just fun to see you know. Them experience Italy for the first time and then play although although I have to say the games are to me and them getting rowdy and and and betraying each other for that's the most fun stuff.  I'm going to because they don't have they don't thousand euros is a lot of money. A coupon at a restaurant is where it gets really funny thing. I don't know if you mentioned but like because I was too busy with StreamYard they are not give they can't use their oh no I didn't mention the restriction. Yeah when they got captured. Yeah yeah tell them about like the restrictions when they got captured they really got captured. They don't have all their luggage. They were not allowed to bring bags. They're not allowed to bring bags. They can only bring what they could carry on their person and so the clothes that they have and anything in their pockets they could bring and that's it and then when they get to Italy, they're given these t-shirts with their names on them and they that's like the fresh clothes they could wear and they can wash their other clothes and then they only have an allowance of X amount of money and one of the members. Let me show here. Can I switch this one of the members Dino is the youngest member. The youngest member right here right here. Oh can you see it wait. Can you see me have it right here? This this man here Dino for official trailer right there. He is the bank manager so he holds all of their money and distributes the money and knows how much money they have left. So he has to kind of like decide should I give you this money to pay for these sneakers because that means we're going to be down $60 and we still have to eat. You know what I mean? Like they don't have the much money. So getting a thousand euros was important because then they're going to have money to buy a trinket or eat. You know and so they don't just get to live like pop stars on the road. They are literally like camping in a way or what do you call it hostile in a way but they're not really in a hostile because look how beautiful this kitchen is right like it's gorgeous. Anyways there's restrictions to this so it's not just like we're a bunch of K-pop and we'll artists and we'll be taken care of by our agency which is the normal right. No they have to wear you know the clothes that they have. They get the clothes they flew in on. They get the t-shirt and a hoodie and then anything they buy.  Well yeah the other thing they had to buy underwear and stuff like otherwise they would just go laundry. They can go wash stuff but yeah. So anyway that's not a tour. That's not a tour. Well anything else? Should we wrap up? Are we good? I think we should wrap up.  I think I've gotten enough practice for tomorrow. So Sarah is not like Eileen you didn't figure this out. You have no idea what you're doing. Yeah I think we'll be okay. You should get in touch with Joe in the morning tomorrow and set up a time to run through stuff too. Yeah or he'll see this and go oh god I can't believe she didn't know that I better tell her. All right well then we shall say adieu. Thanks to everybody watching live. We had a good 40 people or so hanging out and chatting appreciate that and anybody watching this later let us know in the comments you know. What more would you like us to do on this show? I think we could do less explaining and more discussing. That's that's my takeaway for the for the next time. What about you? I don't know. I don't know. Tell me. I feel like I'm new to this so I don't really know what the audience knows and what they don't know and what they need. So I'm just talking. Yeah and I'm learning stream yard. So I'm like what does work a little different. Oh thank you. Wobbit magic. I'm looking forward to the real show too. Tomorrow's just a workshop by the way. Oh thank you Texas. That's awesome. Yeah we'll try to do whatever we want. All right. See you all later. Bye. I will end the stream. You press the end stream. I press the red button that says end stream right. Red button a candy color button.


Okay, we're back live in Las Vegas at Jenny. We're getting down to the final stretch here. I'm John Furrier with SiliconANGLE.com and this is theCUBE where we go out and talk to the people about the impact technology at the event here at HP in Las Vegas. And we're here with Jeff Carlot, Director of Marketing, Industry Standard Servers and Software, there's a little software and then we'll get, can't wait to talk about that. And E.J. Bodner, Director of Portfolio Marketing Technology Services, Portfolio. So welcome to theCUBE guys. Thank you. Thanks for coming in.  Oh, yeah. He's been on theCUBE a number of times, but I've never seen him that excited. So, Gen 8, break product launch here. So, tell us what's your guys' angle here and let's go deep on it. So, a lot of passion in the air, a lot of passion in the air. I've been in the Industry Standard Server side of a compact and now HP for 14 years and I've never seen an announcement this significant as we are really driving innovation and automation into the servers themselves and what's important for myself and I think E.J. is we're really driving proactive services and support. For the first time I think we're really making this, establishing the server management and the service and support experience to be converging into one. So it's really exciting from my standpoint. I agree. What we're talking about is the convergence of servers and services. So you heard about today, Insight Online, the information that we have available to us, to our customers, to our channel partners, taking that information, which we believe come from the most intelligent servers, most self-sufficient servers in the world, pairing that with what we believe are the smartest support and service experts in processes in the world and automating the support experience and that results in increased system uptime, increased performance. So we're very excited about it as well. We can actually, based on our support automation and the intelligence in the servers, we can reduce the total time to problem resolution by 66%. So it's just a great step forward and really freeing up time for IT administrators and for partners. Yeah, and we were talking earlier and I was kind of making the reference. And I kind of was joking, but I wasn't joking, that when you have groundbreaking innovation like this, really built from the ground up where service technicians, hardware engineers were involved in identifying the biggest problem on the market, which is power and cooling and operational costs. And flipping that from 70, 30 to back around the other way will create a lot of innovation and enable great solutions. So I was kind of just throwing out the idea like revolutionary, it's like what the iPhone did for the phone and music business, complete architectural change, change the user experience, how they used their finger and the touch screen and iTunes and App Store. And there's a big trickle effect around behind the Apple iPhone. So I made the comment because Larry Ellison said at Oracle OpenWorld that he wants to be the iPhone for the data center. And so you guys have a lot of experience using this being a multi-vendor company. HP's heritage in fact is multi-vendor, which is a challenge on the services side, right? So the question coming back to my analogy is if the Gen 8 architecture is going to really change the customer experience from operational economics down to some of the power issues and overall serviceability, what is going to be the side effect of that? What is that going to enable the customers? So I'll take a crack at that, Jeff, that's okay. So we believe and we're focused from a services perspective on a superior customer experience. That's what our focus is. And we're in the enviable position that we are the industry leading, industry standard server vendor in the world. We're the largest IT support organization in the world. So we were able to draw from that experience that customer insight, that customer input to develop this next generation of products and services. So as far as what will be the end result, we're able to take away the focus on some of the administrative tasks that now our customers have to deal with and allow them to free up those hours, those days, in fact, you heard 30 days quoted today earlier and focus those on innovating more strategic projects that can help differentiate our clients and our customers from their competition. So again, taking the shift off administrative tasks, automating a lot of the support experience and letting them focus on more strategic tasks. I would even add to that. In today's IT infrastructure management, you know, when problems do occur, you know, the laws of physics, that something will go wrong in power supply, whatever, that now IT ministers spend more time than they need to looking through log files, working through level one support, through the support automation and delivering that through Insight Online. We have the ability of really seamlessly linking that underlying telemetry, you know, that's being diagnostic information over 1600 parameters being looked at within the servers. That can be sent through and be utilized through our support and services organization to automatically understand what the problem is. In fact, we can actually work with the customer to automatically create a case, support case and send a replacement part even before the customer really needs to interact a lot on a human standpoint. And just to add to that, if I may, so certainly a very beneficial impact on our customers, but we also work with our authorized support partners who also can have access to that data, that information, so they can provide a higher level of service, but also they can use that data to engage in more consultative sales and discussions with their customers. So it really is a, it's a plus obviously for HP. We can better service our customers. Our clients receive that better level of service and our partners can also engage and benefit from it. We were juggling Dave Donatelli and Dave Vellante, co-host said, you know, what scares you? These key notes, he's like, no, what scares me is execution, right? So the vision here is, and the story is fantastic, execution in the services business requires a lot of coordination. So the question I have is talk about the automation side because one of the key messages in this announcement is the automating away, not only machine-based activity within the sensors and the technology, but the human part, right? So talk about what you guys are doing to make that work. I mean, you've got some portals, you've got a channel to deal with, there's a lot of moving parts here. What's the key to that? Certainly is, so absolutely, execution is key. And again, we have a history of drawing from superior execution that we'll continue to leverage and build upon. So as far as automating and the benefit there, Insight Online is a great tool. It gives us great insight, great data, but the real breakthrough and benefit there is when we combine it with Insight Remote Support, which is tied to our very smart people experts, but also the support processes. So we're able to automate a lot of the activities that are required in that type of environment. Jeff talked about being able to send out a replacement part before it's needed. So utilizing data, we can open a case and send out a replacement part before the part fails. It can be replaced proactively, and that's why we call it proactive services. So we automate a lot of those tasks that would take time and people's attention and effort and automate those activities. And let's even go one step further. Let's talk about proactive service offerings that we offer. By using this intelligence in the servers, the experts in HP services or our partners can use that information to provide ongoing optimization suggestions to improve performance and to increase uptime before problems actually occur. Dude, customers like freak out and go, come on guys, are you kidding me? Because you really can do that? I mean seriously, take me through a customer scenarios where do they fall out of their chair? I mean, what's the customer reaction like? Because the service business has really been hard. No one's really cracked that nut of configuration management end to end. Not just here and there you've seen some solutions, but what's the customer reaction?  Are they signing up in droves? What's the, you know, EJ? Sure, you know. It's sort of a combination. Tell us some data. It's a combination like, wow, you've listened. This is something that I'm very interested in. It is a challenge, but also there's a belief and a credibility in HP that we can deliver that because we've worked with them, we have the credibility, and they say, okay, show it to me. And absolutely, it's a very good help. And what are you showing? You're showing the Insight Portal? Do you show them the analytics? What are they? Go ahead. Yeah, great example. Talk to customers all the time around managing their contract and warranty statuses. You know, they spend so much time and labor tracking the asset. Whereas in the data center, what's the current status of this contract, right? And they're doing this, whether it be by pieces of paper. Running the green light on. Yeah, exactly. And through Excel spreadsheets, through support automation and Insight Online, this information is there at your fingertips so we can run reports. You actually get warnings of things that will expire in 30 days and 60 days. So it just provides huge advantage. And yes, IT administrators are giddy when I talk to them in the fact that we can save labor, save their time. They can go do something more important or manage more servers, CIOs, see the benefits of less time spent on that labor. Because again, the majority of the IT budget is spent on the labor and just keeping things afloat. Yeah, and it's a trickle-down kind of effect to quote kind of voodoo economics from Ronald Reagan. But if someone goes with you guys on this, what's the trickle-down benefits? Because the guy in the trench is the guy who really wins here. I mean, you know about the day-to-day operations of a business where failure's not an option. Unplanned downtime and planned downtime. What are some of the things that are happening in the transition to the person and to the environment? Can you guys quote any use case data? Sure, from a person's say, an administrative perspective. Their time is freed up to then go focus on more innovative tasks, more strategic tasks. From a CIO perspective, he or she will see the financial benefit, increased uptime, increased performance, which reflects well on that person and the organization. Higher service levels for their customers. So there's benefit across the board from the administrator of the CIO to the overall company and to our customers' customers as well. Yeah, yeah, our partners and the benefit to our partners' ability of really being able to deepen their relationship with their customers. My final question to you guys is, obviously an exciting announcement. What are you guys excited about going forward? And you know, give me that gantia kind of emotion. Next 12 months, 14 months, 24 months, what's going to be really radically changing? What's going to be this revolution? I think this is the beginning of an experience around the convergence of server management and support and services. With Insight Online, it creates a palette, a palette for me to paint more innovation, more value-added services. Imagine a time in the future when we have this Insight Online portal and you can actually bring in VMware, Microsoft applications. You can bring in other performance data and telemetry. You can monitor and manage directly from there. You can update firmware. You can do all kinds of things. I think this is the creation point for even more innovation that's going to drive even more benefits for our customers and our partners in the future. So that's a collision course then on this whole DevOps trend. You've been following the whole debate about developer operations, a big developer framework around being more creative with real-time and agile programming to develop applications. You guys seeing that? I'm not an area that I can comment on. Okay, EJ, what are you excited about? So I think we're at an inflection point. Truly, we're changing the support and service experience from reactionary to proactive. And we're able to therefore help our customers and our clients differentiate themselves and provide a better experience for them that differentiates them. So truly, it's an inflection point that we're changing the industry, I believe. Well, one more follow-up question because I can never ask the last question without one on my mind because this is another good one. The service's business is changing from the big old deployments of the big software plays and big iron, mini-computed. But we're kind of coming back with cloud to that kind of client-server model we've just been talked about, new stacks and new frameworks. What do you guys see as the biggest challenges for the services industry for the next, what's on the agenda for the next one? Top three issues that are the most topical and most relevant that people should be talking about or are talking about are, what are the top three things? I mean, services is changing. There's the notion of servicing. There's services that can be offered and then there's cloud services. Like, this is changing the economics and all value chains. So what do you guys see as the big picture? Top three things that's being disrupted. Sure, so you can look at a number of surveys that say what are top of mind with CAOs, for example. As I talk to clients and we talk to clients, cloud is a big challenge for them. How do they embrace the cloud? How do they take advantage of the cloud? How do they optimize it? Virtualization, convergence. These are all things that our clients and our customers and our partners are working with HP on to help them address within their environment. So, you know, you heard it earlier today. A lot of it is about choice. And let me go back to the partner angle. So our clients are saying we want choice. We want an optimal support experience. We want to work with HP, but oftentimes we want to work with a local partner who understands our environment, our stakeholders and how IT enables our business. So those are some of the top of mind things as we talk to CAOs and our clients that they're saying HP. Help us with, work with us. Okay, EJ Jeff, thanks so much. We love the services angle. Thanks so much for coming on theCUBE. Great job. Thank you very much. We'll be right back in one minute with our next guest.