to my channel today's video I am starting let me see I'm starting off I think I need to go I have a lot to do today so I'm going to the bank I need to go grocery shopping and household item shopping and hygiene shopping so they had a lot shopping to do today but I don't want to buy too many household products you know I don't want to buy too many household products simply because I ask for that for Christmas like I asked for like a household item care package type thing and if you're new here hey my name is Ken Jennings I forget to subscribe and join the family before you leave so since I asked for that for Christmas I don't want to buy too much of stuff since I'm going to be you know you can never have too many household items but you know I don't want to buy too much since I am literally going to be getting a lot of that for Christmas I just need I need groceries like I have no food in my refrigerator so I'm about to go I think I want to get a smoothie I'm kind of in the smoothie mood it's been raining for like a week but I really want a smoothie so the smoothie is like 530 calories so I think that'll hold me over until after I'm done grocery shopping I may stop at Wendy's since they're right beside each other but yeah I need the grocery shop so I need to completely gross my hair looks amiss like I didn't even define during the day anyways that's the point I need to do grocery shopping I have nothing in my apartment so I'm gonna get a smoothie gonna Wendy's grocery shop I have so many boxes to take out but they may be in another vlog because I'm blogging two different videos in one day but yeah I got that to do and then I just need to straighten up today so basically I used to get my life together in this blog adulting is hard like that's probably what I want to title this like adulting is ghetto like I probably get gas I know I need to go to Walmart Costco we're just we're just about to hop in the car I just wanted to greet y'all and say hey I only have 30 minutes left on this so I probably won't take y'all in the store on the camera I'll probably record little clips off of my phone like me grabbing everything and then just put that into one because I do kind of want to save my camera storage for when I get back and like do a haul and stuff so we're gonna head out into the car and I will talk to y'all later okay so I got about 15 maybe about 20 minutes until I gotta go take Oreo to the hospital to regain shots whatever I explained that on the ride there but I gotta finish getting the rest of my finish getting the rest of my groceries at the car and I got a lot of stuff so I'm gonna use my little bit of thingy that I used to use all the time in my last apartment you guys just to always ask where the heck is this from one more my boyfriend got it for me it's about a year ago so yeah I am on the I don't live on the first floor anymore I do got to go upstairs that's why I want to leave at the house okay so I do got to go upstairs but I usually like pull it up backwards basically so that's what I'm about to do I got a lot of freaking groceries so I'm about to take this downstairs because baby I'm not about to be making two three four five trips downstairs so I'm about to pack this all the way up roll this hole up this way backwards up the stairs and we about to get a good one okay I brought my eggs in and then I brought about two pillows I'm gonna do a haul in a minute because I need to leave in like 10 minutes but I got some more food I got a different flavor this time I recently switched back because the food that I originally feed them is getting extremely high and baby I gotta get a fruit snack they spent $230 only like a hundred like 40 what's for food the rest is from you'll see but yeah I mean everything I needed it's crazy how like food and like basic necessities because I got like hygiene items and like three more things it's not hygiene items or necessities but you're gonna have like $400 to freaking survive out here right now like to get a good amount of food and I live by myself I can only imagine how much it's cost to y'all to got families out there like I know y'all trick is almost $1,000 because I mean I tried to buy slightly involved but not too involved just enough to kind of get me to like next payday or at least like my YouTube check and stuff so on the table and then kind of show y'all what I got because me showing y'all each thing one by one I feel like takes a lot longer so I'm gonna unpackage everything first and then I'm just gonna do like a quick overview but I'm gonna leave this out so you guys can see everything that I got food and hygiene was so starting over here this is kind of everything that's not food so I got me a scrub mommy some more dove body wash deodorant I like men's deodorant because it lasts longer I ran out of my deodorant then I had to use my boyfriend's deodorant he had this kind and I really like this I don't want to use all here so I got this one needed some more razors I need this from my work my bedroom this will be in another vlog my my moving vlog that shouldn't post before this one then I got two of these these smell amazing everyone loves to smell of those eggs cheese to lunchable like I said I got some more food I got some more Parmesan cheese this is for tacos noodles needed some more I ran out of all my frequencies in this because I had been cooking I just ran out of food so pepper Tony's Creole slap your man me and then garlic salt then I got biscuits I like to do dumplings with those ground beef mustard seeds potatoes got some pizzas beef broth heavy whipping cream this is for the tacos and it's a more vegetable or completely I bet that orange juice I like the thick and hearty because this just hit different like if y'all haven't tried this and you like a one steak sauce please try this this tastes so much better than the regular a one steak sauce like that go off then I wanted to do bake macaroni again I needed to kind of restock on some items so flour and sugar let me have no sugar there I got two percent milk because y'all know my little ordeal with the almond milk I just decided to get two percent okay macaroni I like to have things a spaghetti I didn't like these so those will be cool and then as for meat like I said I got a three pack let me come over here I had three pack of in my strip steaks this isn't my favorite type of steak my favorite type is a t-bone steak but you can't really beat three for 25 and then I got this big thing of chicken breast I'm gonna cook all kind of stuff with this chicken breast by itself I'm gonna do hibachi chicken I fried all whole bunch of stuff with that and then I got me a chuck pot roast all I'm missing is carrots because I think my carrots have gone bad and literally this right here was a hundred and I think like $40 which is insane and then I also bought these two items these will be in a different blog but yeah I got two of these I need to buy some pillowcases for them because I could find any at Walmart and then I also got a mattress topper and a size queen so you'll see that in a different blog because this vlog is kind of more geared to what did I say like running errands and stuff like that me doing my bedroom it should have been before this one so you guys should have seen that one so it's 411 I need to hurry and put these groceries away because Oreo appointment is at 430 and it's about like 15 minutes of the road you stock everything so me orio are back at the house about to finish putting up the rest of the groceries they didn't need to be in the fridge and then kind of straighten up the kitchen they forgot what about the eat for a dinner tonight because what are we feeling tonight what we feeling I don't know cuz the roast it's too late to cook a roast roast take me about four hours it's 625 I'm gonna do my little usual you know a steak potatoes it's a macaroni yeah don't even say nothing about no veggies thanks so yeah this appointment went good I'ma didn't cost anything because they sent out a paper supposedly the rabies and whatever shot that he had got Oreo get off print whatever he had got the last time the rabies and whatever else it was in the warehouse it basically expired so they were like well he's basically they send it in a letter he's really not fully you know vaccinated so come back and basically we'll redo it again office visit in the shots free on us I'm like y'all get to be sweet okay but then I got his you know his stuff that I got to give every first of the month for a flea heartworm tick all that prevention so yeah I got that also I'm just about to restock it showing up the kitchen like like I said this vlog is gonna be titled adulting is ghetto and hard like it's very much I'm gonna take this off cuz I'm hot I'm burning up honey oh yeah he's good the only thing left to do let me look at my to-do list I think I did everything that I wanted to do today okay go to the bank pay or did that add money to my business bank account I did that I just transferred well I actually went into positive $500 into my business bank account I got a I'm gonna pay for my photo shoot tomorrow it's gonna he takes half so I gotta pay 275 tomorrow to secure my spot I need to figure out who I need to do my hair and my makeup and stuff because I need to go ahead and book those everything from for my business is coming out of my business bank account so yeah that's why I just transfer all the money that I plan to use they got $500 in there I need to add $200 more to it because they just cashed at me he's paying for my photo shoot shout out to Bay thank you for love him and today is our anniversary so we've been together for one year or whatever but yeah so he's paying for my entire photo shoot so I need to add $200 more so then I'll have five six I have $700 in that account right now I just opened it and I had opened it with a hundred so yeah anything that I decide to do with the business obviously it's coming out that account so I just keep adding money to it um I paid $50 on my credit card today then I had the deodorant order here in the clear container for bleach got deodorant order here I'll probably do that tomorrow because I need to see if this one girl is actually going to be able to be in it she's one of my co-workers so I'm gonna order the hair tomorrow should be here in a week and I wanted a clear container from our bleach in my laundry room but I couldn't find one in Walmart so I'll probably go to Dollar Tree tomorrow today is only Thursday I keep thinking it's Friday so I got two more off-days so I'm gonna try to finish up I'm recording two videos in this one day they already said that so I'm gonna try to finish recording both of those videos today and then kind of get a head start on editing as far as like importing stuff or whatever but yeah I'm about to put their food into their little baggie and feed them let me put this up this came in handy and y'all saw I got all my groceries up in one I got all my groceries in the house in one trip we love that and I was supposed to play some music because I need some music to help y'all I don't need music but music kind of just make me move faster I know my best friend say that when she listens to music while like trying to clean and get stuff doing it slows her down because she'd be like dancing to the music but I feel like it helps me out comment down below are you like my best friend or are you like me because I feel like music it just it just keep me moving it helps me to have a ton of laundry to fold so that's done I'm gonna pour their food this is probably charged up I want to pour their food in a little doggie bin this is from home goods it was like $15 $16 thanks to Caesar I don't really care for Caesar that much anymore simply because I used to use pure balance pro that is my favorite but they just keep going up like every time I go up in there they went up like a dollar or two and I get it for one more so I do want to start feeding them one company forgot what it is but I think I'm going to start doing that with prints and then I'll switch Oreo to the fresh homemade because I think that'll be better so this is how much in this one is chicken and I can tell the difference because these are lighter than the beat what is this this is about a because he has a slow feeder so it looks like there's a lot but it kind of isn't that much so yeah Oreo weighed in today at 16.2 panel so forgot to tell y'all that so he is a fast growing little bit of pup in prints he don't eat that much like this he probably won't even finish this Oreo he will eat all of his and then Prince Boo so I try not to overfeed him but he is a lot bigger than Prince Prince only eight pounds and Oreo is like I said 16.2 so he doing is a little bit more than Prince obviously but they say he's in good condition he's not overweight or anything so I think I'm about a half a cup to a cup depending on the days so yeah and they already honey okay so moving on to the potatoes I think it was pretty self-explanatory for me cooking the steak I've cooked many steaks before and I think I did also do my roasted potatoes before but I just seasoned my potatoes with my favorite seasonings which is like pepper garlic salt garlic powder onion powder and then that is the Tony's Creole seasoning that I use and I also like to use vegetable oil so it can really stick to the potatoes and then just give that a toss around while I'm doing this my air fryer is already heating up so I like to cook them for 20 minutes at 330 degrees so it takes a few minutes for my air fryer to warm up so in the meantime I'm kind of multitasking and yeah throw them in there kind of give them a little shake and I do 20 minutes this day I did 375 but I now do like 330 335 because these ones a little bit too toasted or roasted for my liking then for the meat after I open the meat I do like to go ahead and put it in a Ziploc bag I do like to write the date that it expires or need to be frozen by on the bag and then just slip that into either the freezer or the refrigerator in the meantime multitasking as you're cooking you need to clean as you go so you don't have a huge mess at the end after you're done and you're full and you're not going to feel like putting anything away so you need to put everything away while you're doing it after I put on my dishes away I like to open this up at the halfway point spray some non-stick butter on it so it can not burn too much and then this is my secret sauce y'all went crazy when I posted this on my Instagram story if I still got the story I posted here but literally it's kind of like an Alfredo sauce but I just use heavy whipping cream I use my favorite cheeses which is Parmesan and mozzarella more so more mozzarella than Parmesan because mozzarella got that stringy effect so I like to do that then girl then drop the top in and everything then I season the sauce with my favorite seasonings the onion powder garlic powder add more cheese you know just kind of do what you're liking your taste buds you can literally taste this while you're cooking like I say this kind of like an Alfredo sauce but it's mostly kind of like a cheese sauce basically too so you see how stringy that is that's what you want and I find this to be delicious on these roasted potatoes like it tastes so good but I only do this after I cook like my meat so I put it in the same pan that I had cooked my meat in because all of those flavors from your meat your steak whatever you want to cook is so flavorful so I just put that on the roast potatoes I put it on my steak girl sometimes I even eat the macaroni in it too because I'm not one of people who don't like my food touching so everything is ate at once it tastes amazing so yeah the cheese sauce is very simple everybody went crazy over it some people was thinking it was like yum yum sauce or something like that that's disgusting I'm not gonna eat your yum sauce with potatoes but yeah this is that and I also add in some a one steak sauce it was delicious right here in this clip you can see baby I'm almost done with my plate all the potatoes are gone all the macaroni is gone the steak I did finish and I wanted to thank you guys so much for watching this video don't forget to like comment and subscribe and that's my next video I will see you lovely stand bye guys


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I know I haven't done the intro to this vlog, but it's Iranian New Year this week, and we are jumping over fire Kada, tell the vlog what's happening Say it in English We jump over the fire I have to say Zahdi is a little better What are you talking about? Zahdi is better than me Zahdi is better than me We are in Christian Liby Tons I'm not sure he was Liby Tons to Tasha Masuri He's better than me Now I'm talking about Zahdi Bye mom Best of luck Good job You're the best I wish you guys in advance as it's not even norwils yet for me.   I hope you guys get everything you wish for this year. So, I thought I would first of all show you guys my outfit. It is eight o'clock at night and new year is at 10 o'clock at night here in London, I'm wearing this dress by Zahra, my belt's from Gucci, and my heels are Christian Labouton. So, my mom is doing the traditional, as you can expect, making fish. Mom, say happy norwils to everyone. Happy norwils to everybody. My mom is making fish. So, in Iran... Do you think we should love salmon? Yeah, but you're meant to have white fish usually. So, Iranians or people who celebrate norwils in general, the traditional dish for norwils is fish with a special kind of rice called sabzi polo. I will show you guys our sabzi polo. I'll show them in the end as well, but she's okay because she's preparing... She's preparing the food and it's really, really exciting. So, even though I'm not going out tonight, it's just myself, my mom and my dad. Are we going out tonight? Yeah. These lot want to go out and celebrate after... We're having dinner at home. Yeah, you have to have dinner at home. Come tell the vlog, mom. We're having dinner at home. That's why we're having dinner and after we're going to... Four seasons. Four seasons. We're going to have dinner at home. But you have to have dinner at home. You have to have the fish and rice. And we always sit around the table where we have half seen. And I will show you guys that once ours is set up. Because we are Iranian and we would not be Persians if we weren't running in Persian, Sander timing, last minute. Lastminute.com. So, I don't know about the rest of you Iranians, but we run with the cliche of Persian, Sander timing. This year I was really, really in behind. Usually I prepare my half seen few days before. But today is only few days. Durubnago. Yeah, honestly. Actually, that's true. You should have said durubnago. Durubnago. Look at our fish. We have three fish this year. You have to have fish as part of your... You have to have goldfish as part of your new year on the half seen table. And we have three this year. I don't know what we're going to call them though. What shall we call you? No, no, no. How about we let everyone watch this and they can pick the names of our goldfish. Enter the name of the goldfish. The ones with the most likes pick all three names. The ones with the most likes will pick all three names to them and we'll give you a shout out in the next vlog with your fish. I've gone for quite like an elegant look. I don't know. I turned 23 last week. Friday and I don't know. Change lady? Probably not. But yeah, I felt like switching up the vibe a bit and wearing something I wouldn't wear. So this is my mum's dress and it's from Zara. So let me know if you guys like this elegant look. Have you not worn it yet? There was no tag on there. No, no, no. It's yours. My mum buys dresses like this so that she can wear it in Iran as a mantle which is a cover-up so you wear a top underneath this and trousers and a headscarf. Oh, Zarpushide! Hello everyone. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Our wish for everyone. Health. Good things. Happiness for you. Okay, guys. Look in our family group chat. There's like half scenes. Solo time is the first ever time that they are away from our house and setting up their own half scenes. So this is Sol's half scene and this is Saina's half scene. Mum!  What's half scene? Saina, I'm going to get dressed. I'm going to get dressed. What's half scene from Saina's dance? This is Saina's dance. This is Saina's dance. She's really freaking out. Dad, it's been two hours. She's been cleaning the whole house. The whole house for like the past week. Spring cleaning, guys. Not like a normal cleaner comes around and buffs the surfaces. No. Throwing out rubbish. Cleaning on the walls and whatever you guys can think. Persian families around New Year do the Khunatakunye Aid. So Khashen Khunatakunye Aid is her character. And yeah, she's got her house ready for the new year. So on our half scene we also have to have eggs. Hard boiled eggs that you're meant to decorate. These traditionally decorate them and color them. We haven't decorated them and color them. But my mom has a fast track cheating version of dyeing them. She puts red onion peel into the water with them and they will take the dye of them. Onion peel. Oh, that's cool. God bless you. Baf baf baf, mom. Don't be afraid. I'm so curious. Sabzi polo mahia aid with cheese and vegetables. We also had vegetables. I'm making a lot of vegetables. But I'm not making them because I know that the vegetables are the most important. The vegetables are the most important. So this is the traditional Iranian New Year meal. Sabzi polo which is rice with herbs and fried fish. And we've got some salad which we've already consumed. And some fresh herbs and cheese. So I think there's like two minutes left until the New Year. We've got the TV on countdown. So for the moment of New Year we're going to go by the table where the half-scene is set. So I'll show you guys our half-scene. So this is our table the half-scene. It's got seven things starting with S in the Persian language. Sabzi. Sambol, Samanu, Somar, Si. Sabzi. Sib. So we've got seven things starting with S and then we've got our fish. And we've got all of our sweets for like the New Year. That you're meant to like eat something sweet. We've got prayer books, poetry books and we have Sekke I'm going to set you guys up at the end of the table so you guys can watch the New Year in with us. Arre. Arre. Arre. Arre. Arre. Arre. Arre. Arre. Arre. Arre. Arre. No, that it's... my parents have to give me money. Age. So the tradition, the way it works is in between the prayer book your parents leave money elders come around to your house to visit you in the New Year and they can give you money so to the younger kids. So yeah this is called His brother is on the phone He's the eldest brother so everyone calls their elders and my dad is the eldest now because his parents passed away My mum is calling her mum So as you can see the telephone games have started It will be globally in about 10 minutes We'll start having the phone calls from Iran because right now I think the line is to Iran What we've stopped at every year was the lines to Iran would be so busy that you literally could not get like through to the other end and like you'd wait hours to speak to your family in Iran Currently it's like the UK phone calls and then the European phone calls then the Iran then America phone calls I think Now it's just a lot of phone calls and the TV's on My head cannot take this much conversation I can't take this We came to celebrate the year My champagne Just mint tea I love this tea I love you


Mr. President, I'd like to say to you that my purpose here is less to try to get a headline than to ask you about some of the things that have happened in the course of Presidency. But there is one issue that didn't come up at all last night at your news conference, perhaps it surprised you as it did us, and that's the issue of Afghanistan. And I wanted to ask you whether you think the Soviets are really going to withdraw from Afghanistan, withdraw their troops, and if so, why? Well, I believe they are, and Colin Powell and George Schultz have been there in the Soviet Union and come back. They're convinced that they really want to get out of there. I think that a large part of that could be the economic situation in the Soviet Union and the fact that after going on nine years, it's still a stalemate. So I think that there's reason to believe that they really want out. How much of a role has the support that we have given to the Afghan rebels had to do with this Soviet decision in your view? Well, I think it would only have to do with the decision on the basis that as long as the Mujahideen were being supplied with weapons and ammunition, they just couldn't be defeated. You see, most people don't understand that when you're up against a kind of guerrilla operation, the normal military has to outnumber the guerrillas roughly 10 to 1 to be equal because of the nature of the way they fight, the strike can disappear and so forth. And they've been a very effective fighting force, the Mujahideen. What do you think the prospects are now for you and Mr. Gorbachev actually signing a treaty in Moscow that would reduce strategic nuclear arsenals as you proposed by 50 percent? Well, that would be nice if it could happen, but I have to tell you that common sense indicates that the time is too limited for us to really think that we could bring a treaty ready for signature to that meeting. It would be nice if we could, and we're not going to slow down or anything, but this one is so much more complicated with regard to verification and everything else than the INF Treaty, which we were able to bring together, but even that took a few months to do. So we're not going to be disappointed if, in fact, we're not at this moment anticipating that it would be ready for signature then. If you can't get it signed there, are you going to try to get it wrapped up during your presidency or are you, R-D-U-C, perhaps announcing those things you do agree on and leaving a foundation for the next administration to build on? Well, I believe with the amount of time that would still be remaining that if there's sincerity on both sides with regard to getting such an agreement, and I think there is, I think that could be done, yes, before my term expired. But we just feel that to even speak of having hopes of having it by the time of the summit or pressing that hard, it'll be fruitless and we should just keep on doing the best that we can and take it when the time comes. You've now, you'll be meeting with Mr. Gorbachev for the fourth time, the most contact between the U.S. and Soviet presidents since World War II period, I believe, do you think he really is a different kind of leader than the Soviets have had before? Yes, I do, having met most of them. I think that, and this is just my own theory, he might give you a different answer. I think that one difference is that he is the first leader that has come along who has gone back before Stalin and that he is trying to do what Lenin was teaching. And with Lenin's death, Stalin actually reversed many of the things, Lenin had programs that he called the new economics and things of that kind. And I've known a little bit about Lenin and what he was advocating and I think that this in Glasnost and Perestroika and all that, that this is much more smacking of Lenin than of Stalin and I think that this is what he's trying to do. Does the world look different to you now that it did when you entered all the office seven and a half years ago? You're the first two-term president since Dwight Eisenhower, you're in your eighth year. Do you have a different view of the Soviets, a different view of anything in the world you deal with? Well, for that one specific, you take the Soviets, remember that in my first coming to office and for a few years there, they kept dying on me. They had three leaders and they were, I think, of a different philosophy than this one. But generally, and for that subject, I have to remember that there weren't too many surprises. First of all, a governor's job is an executive job and you know that you sit at the desk where the buck does stop and when the decisions have to be made, you have to make them. And even with regard to the principle difference which would be foreign policy, I recall to you that a former president several times asked me to represent him abroad in meetings with heads of state. I had been in 18 different countries in trips of that kind before I came to this job so it wasn't a complete sudden immersion in foreign policy. I guess I wasn't, I know that but I was thinking more of whether your own opinions of dealing with crises or dealing with difficult foreign policy or domestic problems had changed during this period of time you've been in office. Maybe I was blessed in one way when I became governor of California, I walked into a situation that was very similar to the one I walked into here. If you will recall that even though California's constitution said you had to have a balanced budget and the new governor in California comes in the middle of the fiscal year and I came in and found that while it had been sort of glossed over during the campaign there was a sizable deficit already piled up in that first year and I had to within six months, wasn't anyone else I could pass it to, I had to resolve that and wind up the here with a balanced budget. And so coming in here with the economic things that we had and the double digit inflation and so forth, again it was almost like a repeat. And the other things, the things of somebody handing you a piece of paper every night that told you what you're going to be doing every half hour the next day, that wasn't new to me, that happened in California too. See, you're saying essentially that the kinds of problems that you had to deal with and the way you dealt with them, you'd already had formed your pattern of doing that while you were governor of California? Yes, it was one if you remember there of delivering authority back to local communities, counties and communities that I didn't think were properly functions of the state government. Here we've called the program federalism because I think that over the years and over the decades, the federal government has assumed authority and autonomy that properly belonged back at state government. So we have a program called federalism and that was not new. And the whole economic philosophy of reducing government, government's authority and all and you know this wasn't new. This has been coming on for a long time when Franklin Delano Roosevelt ran for president the first time on the Democratic ticket in 1932. In his platform was the promise to return to the states and local government's authority and autonomy that he said had been unjustly seized by the federal government. Well by the time I got here it not only had been unjustly seized they had added to it. I think it had been accomplished in reducing. Another one of FDR's promises as you remember was to balance the budget and it was also something you wanted to do. Without going into the business of who is responsible for the deficit, you're going to leave office. There is going to be a sizeable deficit. Do you think that this is going to have a negative consequence on the next generations? Is this going to be a real burden for the country? Well it's a burden. There's no question about that but at the same time it is not the disaster some people proclaim. Now for me to say that is really a reversal of roles because way back before I ever thought I would be a governor when I was just out making speeches on the mashed potato circuit about things that I thought should be changed in the governance of the nation I was complaining about the fact that for almost sixty years now with only eight single year exceptions this country has been running a deficit. Now the deficits today look so much bigger and it's true they have become a part of the structure the maybe you've heard me use this or explain this term back in the middle sixties when in Johnson's regime they launched the war on poverty I great many social reforms and so forth. In the fifteen years from 1965 to 1980 before we came here the budget federal budget increased to roughly five times what it had been the deficit increased to thirty eight times what it had been. And so the problem was still here but when I'm covering for the fact that I said I don't think disaster remember this one thing about no one seems to pay any attention to the great burden of the interest that's a great part of our one of the major factors in our budget right now is the interest but who gets that interest and you find out then that a great many institutions universities educational institutions of all kinds that part of their endowment our government bonds and so a lot of that interest is going to them and a lot of that interest is going to individual Americans who are this is a part of their saving instead of putting in the bank or something so instead of it being something that is just disappearing down a rat hole it's a kind of a redistribution you might say of national wealth and that these institutions and so forth are getting this interest from the government now maybe some of them would have to be getting straight grants from the government if they were not getting that that interest. So no I don't think it's disaster I'm disappointed that we haven't been able to do better and from the very first that we were here every budget that I have sent up as the law requires that I send up the Congress added to that that budget the only place they were willing to cut and are still that way is the defense budget but unfortunately I had inherited also as president a defense situation in which on any given day fully half the military aircraft in this country couldn't fly for lack of spare parts naval vessels tied up because they either lack spare parts or didn't have crew and I campaigned on the basis that even faced with the deficit where it came to national security national defense that's the prime function of the federal government I told audience after audience when I was campaigning that even faced with that deficit problem I would have to come down on the side of augmenting the defense now as I say I was trimmed back time after time in one five-year period since I've been here the Congress cut a total of 125 billion dollars from my defense budgets now you they could take credit and say well we were fighting the deficit but were they in that same five years they added 250 billion dollars to domestic spending over and above what I'd asked for I wanted to ask you just one more soviet question which is sort of this is a good place to ask it because this SDI was a creation of your administration and I remember you saying many times that you had a background as a labor negotiator that in negotiations you're trying to get an agreement both sides have to get something and I'm wondering whether you have a formula whether there is a formula that would allow you to preserve SDI as this research and development program and still satisfy the Soviets in some way on that issue is there a meeting ground possible? I can't see that at all as a bargaining chip the first place they've spent 20 times as much as we have on defense programs in spite of ABM they've been doing this for years they just weren't as fast at it as we might be able to be and I think that one of the reasons that made them try to use it as a bargaining chip which they would buy it with some arms reductions and so forth was because knowing our technology our ability and things of that kind they were afraid and are afraid that we'll come up with it first now what probably scares them I say we'd come up first remember that if they had now an almost foolproof defense against our nuclear missiles at the same time they've got their nuclear missiles they would have the ability for a first strike they could hit us and when we fired back we couldn't hit them they see the same thing for us if we get SDI strategic defense initiative and we still have these missiles that we have they see a first strike capability now the difference is and it's almost impossible to convince them we don't have any intention of a first strike you know that there's no one in America wants to go to war with them so what's the way out of this well we've stood firm but I have told him every time I said look we come to this and it is that good and we're going to deploy it we see it as the basis then for eliminating the strategic ballistic missiles on both sides and I have even told him that I would be willing to see this shared so that just as we all have gas masks and for for gas warfare that all right because if if we set out and eliminated nuclear missiles on both sides and there wouldn't be any reason not to treat this like a gas mask and let anyone that wanted have it because we have to remember that we all know how to make those missiles now and suppose we had come to an agreement where we'd done away with all great ballistic missiles in the world how can we know that someday there wouldn't be a madman in some country come along another hit for example and suddenly if you didn't have a defense could suddenly threaten you with nuclear missiles when no one else had them and therefore he couldn't come along and do that if just like keeping our gas masks if everybody had a defense at your news conference last night you were asked about ethics and government and we led our story with your response my question is a little different uh Mike Deaver, Lin Noff singer who were convicted who worked for you a long time and I of course know them well from California and I wonder if what's happened to them and plus the constant fire that Ed Meese seems to be under whether you're whether you're saddened by by what's happened here personally well of course I'm saddened first of all I've I've found all those individuals to be very soul of integrity in the more than 20 years that I've known them I can't comment too specifically because these cases now are in the courts and before the law and so forth and I don't know just exactly what I could do without or how I could comment without maybe causing trouble for them I want to see them all come out all right and uh yes I'm saddened for another reason I have a feeling that there's a certain amount of politics involved in all of this and I have a feeling that I'm really the target they would like to get at and they're doing it by going after these other people and as I cited last night Ray Dunovan Jim Beggs both totally cleared of any wrongdoing whatsoever but look at what they had to endure and look at the campaign of vilification that went on for months and months that caused Ray Dunovan to say when finally he was declared totally innocent is now where do I go to get back my reputation because you know the thing that is remembered by most people are all those charges and all those accusations and somehow just the declaring of someone innocent that's kind of lost in the in the background you said for a very long time that you were going to remain neutral in this campaign and I respect that very much but as you know I'm sure that an overwhelming number of the voters who have supported Vice President Bush have been those voters according to exit polls at least who say they approve of your presidency and without regard to your stance of neutrality which which which is stipulated in this campaign does does does Vice President Bush does he carry on that legacy is that does he you work with him now for a long time Lou trying to walk the the thin line because as you said and in this office your titular head of the party so therefore you have to be neutral in a in a primary situation but I would have to point out to answer your question I would have to point out that George Bush as Vice President has been a part of all that we've been doing you see when I became governor I made up my mind that the lieutenant governor was not just going to be somebody sitting there waiting for me to get sick or die that he was going to be involved and used why do you let able-bodied manpower sit by and the same things true with the vice president I always felt that both cases the gubernatorial case and this one here that that man should be like an executive vice president in a corporation he should be involved in what was going on and have assignments and so forth and that's been true in both in California and here in Washington I have I have just one last question I I wrote my first story about you in 1965 and as you know I've covered you many of the intervening years and I wonder if you as you look at your own quite considerable career but with the especially in the presidency if there's something you're particularly accomplished particularly proud of and if there's any area where you feel you have a regret or or or it hasn't come out the way you you want it to come out well yes I could tell you some things that struck my heart a number of times on the other side of the accomplishment I think in these years here that the entire debate has been changed that we once had a debate in which the two parties were divided as to one of them a battling for more and bigger government and the other one trying to at least hold the line if not reduce it and in these several years the debate has been over not over that at all the debate has been over how much do we cut and granted that they have not wanted to cut as much as I did interfered with that but it has been a totally different debate and I think that's that's good and the the fact that we have been able to well the federal register that contains all the regulations as 45 less pages than it had when we came here we have we have eliminated regulations and paperwork and so forth that was imposed upon the people on local governments on business and industry to an estimated that there's estimated 600 million man hours a year less of paperwork than there was when we came here I am pleased that the thing that I had thought had to be rectified the the defense situation that we have a defense now that we didn't have before and I think this has been what has made the change in the Soviet Union and their willingness to talk disarmament in every meeting that I've had with the general secretary I've warned him that there's no way we will sit by and allow them to have a dangerous superiority over us and the choice is either we reduce weapons as we've done so far or we engage in an arms race and I've told him that I don't think he can win that arms race if if we're racing at the same time so those things yes I think we've what would be your regret on the other side of that well the regrets there's one thing that every time when you've had to order our young men to go into a position of danger and then to have a tragedy such as the one in Beirut the terrible thing was they were actually succeeding in their mission and that's why the violence was turned on them the people that didn't want things brought to order in Beirut started to resist first by sniping and so forth and then finally with that one thing where they took advantage of the men being moved into that one building found the suicide bomb they could car bomb they could cause all that death the challenger I in other words I suppose put it down it's the calls that have had to be made to families to we've lost someone such as the tragic mistake of that Iraqi airplane and our ship in the Persian Gulf those are things for which you you have to be very sorry on the other hand I couldn't help can't help but be proud that there is an island now down in the Caribbean where there aren't any signs Yankee go home but where somebody sent me a postcard the other day an American tourist from there and the postcard that they're selling is a photograph of a wall and where the wall is painted with all kinds of graffiti and it is all graffiti about god love the USA and things of that kind and that was Renata of course thank you mr president all right looking forward to this meeting with the NATO allies next week yes I think that their people are probably


Well, the Babidji baseball program with some exciting news this afternoon. Senior George Locks her camp has officially locked it in and put pen to paper to continue his baseball career and next season in college. He officially made the decision to play at Division II Saint Cloud State and be a Husky for head coach Pat Dolan. Locks her camp will join the pitching staff for the program who plays in the NSIC conference. The Huskies are 34 and 12 so far this season and third in the conference standings with the season winding down. He says he's excited to play BSU every year and ready to take the next step in his baseball journey. It feels really good. It's a kind of a stressful process at the beginning of the recruiting stages and I'm just really happy I found a place that I can call home for the next four to five years. I wanted to find a good spot for me and to play baseball and continue my career and I feel like I can do that at Saint Cloud and it just felt like a good fit with the coaches in the school itself. Going down there to play as hard as I can and hopefully make a big impact on the program is my goal. The Jacks currently sit fourth in the recent AP poll for Class 3A. They return to action tomorrow night on the road against Easeview. If you've enjoyed this segment of Lakeland News please consider making a tax deductible contribution to Lakeland Public Television.


Hello and welcome to Abledon Arnair, this 9-11 pre-tape special. 9-11 is the anniversary of the terrorist attacks in New York City. As you know, as everybody knows, it was a horrible situation to deal with. We're here today to put everyone at ease and talk about how to deal with trauma. My wife, Arlene Seiler, is not here today. Normally she's here to host a show with me, but she's off because she was in the 9-11 terrorist attacks, but survived it. With us to discuss the 9-11 terrorist attacks and how to deal with trauma is... Margaret Joyle. ...from Washington County. Welcome to Abledon Arnair, this special of 9-11. Thank you. 9-11 was a horrible situation for anybody. What exactly is trauma and how does your office deal with it? So trauma or a traumatic event or events is any event that does two things. It overwhelms our capacity to cope. It overwhelms our usual ways of functioning and it results in an experience of threat to our innermost safety. Experience of threat, how so? So when we're experiencing a traumatic event, we often think that we often believe, we don't think, we believe, we experience that our lives are in danger. Or that the life of a loved one is in danger. And traumatic experiences almost all are unexpected. And they take away our sense of control and sort of the order of our universes. And 9-11 is a great example of that. Well, horrible example, not great. Fine. It's a perfect example, how about that? There were people there who were going about their business, they were working, they were doing all the things that people were doing in the towers, and all of a sudden their entire world's changed. The same thing is similar, the Holocaust, 6 million people plus died at the hands of somebody, they, and you're dead, you know, so. And traumatic events can be like that, they can be mass casualties, they also can be single events, they can be child abuse, they can be domestic violence, they can be school shootings. Columbine and some others. We had an experience a couple of falls ago here in Vermont where five kids were killed on the highway by a wrong way driver. That was a traumatic event for that whole community, for their families, for their friends, but really for the whole community. So that's, one of the things that happens in traumatic events is that they rarely affect just one person. There's typically a community around, even if it's an individual, around the people.  Yeah, well, associated effects example. There's a lot of public service announcements sometimes if a parent is in jail or incarcerated. I'll give you a prime example, Sesame Street deals with this sometimes. They have puppets that go through some situations. Yeah, if a parent's in jail, the whole family is affected, or if a parent's on drugs, the whole family is affected. Does counseling services help all the time with things like this, or is there ways around it in different ways? So sometimes psychotherapy is important, sometimes treatment is important. Sometimes having a good support system around you and having friends and adequate supports is enough. So a lot of people don't come to therapy. After an acute event, like a one-time thing, terrible car wreck, something like that that's traumatic, more than half of the people don't develop sort of ongoing problems as a result of that. So in the support of their families and their friends and whatever other supports they have in their community, they recover. Sometimes events change us in such a powerful way that all those supports are not enough. How so? And sometimes we don't have enough support. So very often the people who come to Washington County Mental Health Services really don't have adequate supports in their lives. They don't have enough resources. They struggle with housing and adequate work. And they may not have supported friends and families around them.  There was an organization in Vermont called Samaritan who's helped us.  Yes. I lost everything. You know, I mean, it's just stuff.   A lot of people did lose their lives. So people that did survive are now getting cancer or have died from cancer. From the environmental effects, yeah. Environmental effects of, what are some ways that if you're in a traumatic situation, you know, how does one really deal with it? I mean, what are some of the things to tell families who are listening, you know, how do you deal with trauma in certain ways? So the most important thing to do when someone's experienced a traumatic event is to get to a safe, secure setting as soon as possible. When people have experienced trauma, it changes our world. We're changed by trauma in ways that are irreversible. And so the most important thing we can do is connect with our friends and family and make sure that we're safe and that the other people who are involved in a situation are safe. And so that's sort of the first. People need to take care of themselves in a really intentional way. They need to pay attention to how much they sleep. They need to pay attention to what they're eating. They need to make sure that they're getting exercise. Because often when we experience a traumatic event, we want to just curl into a ball and hide, right? And that might be a good thing for a minute, but it's not really going to help us recover. So we have to make those connections back again. Expand on that a little bit, if you don't mind. So when people, and so that's any of us, experience a traumatic event, there are a couple of different ways that we respond. We fight back, we run away, or sometimes we try to hide. We try to curl into a ball. And so if those effects are ongoing, you can see people having hypervigilance. They're fighting all the time. They're irritable. They can't connect with the people who they love. You can see people who are fleeing. They're running away. They can't be in their homes. They can't come to work. They're too anxious. Or you can see people who just really retreat. They try to avoid anything that reminds them of the trauma. And sometimes that means even the people who are the closest to them. I mean, for example, during 9-11, elevators stopped. Transportation stopped. I remember that time I was living in the Bronx where I was living. It was one way in, one way out, one bridge. I was living in a city at the time. And things were closed down for weeks when my wife came home.  Off the Brooklyn Bridge. So, you know, I'll give you an example. My parents thought it was a movie. Oh, a movie's on TV. There's no movie. So when all of this is going through someone's head, they're excited. They're hyperventilating. Expand on that a little bit. Besides counseling, are there other services that can really help? Yes. I think for people who have spiritual connections, often being more involved in our churches and our synagogues can help. I think people have to reach inside themselves and re-establish a sense of meaning. And so that can happen in a lot of ways. That can happen through one spiritual practice. It can happen through the way that people connect with each other. It can happen certainly through psychotherapy. But there are a lot of ways to do that. To do a cooking class. You could take a cooking class. The most important thing is to reconnect. To reconnect with that sense of meaning and of stability and of safety. Because when we experience a traumatic event, and I'm sure your wife could speak to this, we have that sense of safety and order in our lives. We all like to have order in our lives. It all gets pulled out like a rug from under us. And so we have to find ways to put that rug back. And usually again and again and again. So exactly how does your office help with this? So we have a program called the LINX program. And LINX is linking community supports. We also have a child and family trauma treatment program. And they were developed in, we started changing the way we practice really in the late 90s and established the program in around 2000. Our trauma treatment program is based on what we believe to be and what the research shows as the best practice, the standard of care. So we start with stabilization. We make sure that people have safe housing. That they have a food source. That they know that they have the resources that basically take care of themselves. And then we provide group therapy. And our group therapies as you're sort of alluding to are many things. We have psychoeducation groups. We have support groups. But we also have a wellness collaborative. And so we have mindfulness groups. We have mindful cooking. We have mindful gardening. We have yoga groups. And those are all ways that people can start to re-establish. Is this program only available to people who get services through Washington County or can it be available to the community? It is available to the community, people who come to links, become clients of Washington County mental health. So it's an outpatient program. And for us, that means really that anybody can access our services. Okay. So you've been in existence since 2000? Mm-hmm. Now, the counseling part, is it... Now, obviously we're not mentioning names. So is it a counseling group for a particular length of time? Or how does that work? So we have really several different modalities of treatment. We have groups and people often are part of our trauma treatment groups. And then we also have individual psychotherapy. And we also have people called treatment resource coordinators who can help in that first stage of treatment to help people stabilize. What is the first stage? The first stage is stabilization. What it really is about helping people sort of reset, to reset the button, whether it's in their physical lives, in their actual lives, or in terms of their internal lives managing their symptoms, their reactions, the things that they're having a hard time managing, teaching people skills to take care of themselves. That's the first step. So you teach them, basically, what have they gone through trauma? Well, do you teach them ADL skills like how to cook, how to clean an apartment, and how to do certain things? If they needed that. Now, knowing that, because trauma is a very strange thing. It can happen at any time. Has your program always been in existence? Like you said, since 2000. But has there ever been a trauma program before that? Or this is the only one that has? So before, really, we started changing things in the late 90s. Before then, we certainly saw lots and lots of people who had experienced trauma. But we primarily saw them in individual psychotherapy, in a more traditional psychotherapy setting. So there wasn't a program. So what we found is that we really needed to get more training.  And so we set about doing that. It was really a cross-agency effort. We met with all the different programs and tried to make a program that would address the process of recovery from trauma. And so the LINX program is really one of a kind. We developed it at Washington County. There are lots of other places where people treat trauma. We have sort of a particular way we do it. And the particular way is finding alternatives to medication and other situations. Sometimes people take medication, but that's not by any stretch the majority. I don't encourage people to take or not to take medication. That's between them and their physician or their psychiatrist. But what I do encourage people to do is to really learn skills to take care of themselves so that maybe they don't need medication. Now, in terms of, how can I put this?   What is your opinion on the way things have changed over the years and have we made any leeway to changing things? I think we've made those changes you're talking about. If you're asking me if I think stigma still exists. Yes, that's my point. I think stigma still exists. I think people can get caught in thinking of somebody as... They automatically think, okay, somebody's mentally... For example, I'm originally from New York. They had hospitals like Bellevue and hospitals like... Originally, Willowbrook State Hospital and some others that have closed. But, you know, we have a long way to go. Yes, we have a long way to go and we've made really good strides. So our state hospital here, when it was in Waterbury, initially was thousands of patients. And we took most of those people into the community so that when the flood happened, another traumatic event was Irene, there were 50 patients there. And that's still... A lot of people would say that's still too many. Yes. But it's a lot different than 3,000. People were stuck there? They were warehoused. Warehoused in the... I mean, warehoused, how so? What exactly was the setup? Well, I think for a lot of people, they once admitted to the state hospital, it was hard to get out. Parley was hard to get out because there weren't enough supports in the community to help people make that transition. It's often a big transition. And so people could get really stuck in that system. And then that stigma thing comes up again, right? So somebody comes out, they've got a diagnosis, like schizophrenia or borderline personality disorder. And instead of having a diagnosis like borderline personality disorder, they're labeled that. So somebody's suddenly a borderline... The label's up for medication bottles, not people. Right. That's right. That's a beautiful saying. So people get labeled borderlines. They get labeled schizophrenics. And then what happens to the human? None of us are one thing. I might have a heart condition. That doesn't make me a heart attack.  And so one of the things about trauma treatment actually is that it recognizes that good trauma treatment recognizes that we don't have to be defined by one part of ourselves. And so often people who have experienced trauma, it envelops them, it becomes them. And so they are trauma survivors or they're trauma victims instead of people who have experienced trauma. And so recovery is about, it's not about forgetting, but it's about remembering that I'm a person who's... You can survive, you can survive this. And then I can get to a place where I'm a person who's experienced a traumatic event or events. I'm not that trauma. That's one of the things that affects me. Or for example, I don't have CP. I'm a person who has cerebral palsy and I deal with it. So my question is, in your opinion, what are the misconceptions around people with special needs or mental and physical? For people who first meet, if someone meets somebody for the first time, what is their way of looking at that? Well, I think we're experiencing it a lot right now in our media. We imagine that people who have significant mental health challenges are dangerous. They're going to hurt us. We imagine that people who are differently abled can't live fulfilling lives. For example, in terms of trauma, you automatically think, because you see a Muslim person who would say, a head covering on their head. Oh, they're dangerous. I know a lot of Muslim people that are just wonderful people. That's right. I know a lot of...  They're no good. The stigmatisms of her keep continuing. They do. So you're part of your agency. How many clients do you serve now? So last year, we served around 1,300 people, just an outpatient. And we provided over 20,000 services. We're a very busy program. So this is outpatient. This is not a crisis center where you can get a bed. If you need a bed, you help them find it, or how does that work? No, that's exactly what happens. So if somebody needs what I call a higher level of care, if they need an emergency bed, if they need to see a psychiatrist, if they need more services than we can provide, then we make sure they get those services. Are you guys screeners in itself, or is it separate? The screeners are a separate program. Our emergency services are very, very closely connected to us. But they are their own division. And we work hand in hand. They refer people to us who are ready to have more and need more ongoing services. We refer people to them when we're afraid that they're not safe. Your history in mental health, how has that been? What did you do before Washington County? I went to school. I started at Washington County Mental Health as an intern. Oh, wow. And I've done other things, but I haven't ever left Washington County Mental Health. Because you like Oregonian. Because I believe in our agency. I think we run a very high quality and exciting and innovative agency. I think we really work at engaging in recovery and in a strength-based approach, regardless of the issues that people come in with. In our current administration now, they're cutting left and right. How do you see the field of mental or physical challenges, physical disabilities, or special needs? Because they're cutting all over the place. How do you see that within a couple of years? Improving, non-improving? Well, when you say our current administration, do you mean in the state or on the federal level? Federal level. Yeah. So I think on the federal level... Do you think there can be improvements? I think there can be improvements. And I can only hope that this four years is four years and not eight. Yeah. And that's probably my biggest hope. Because, yeah.  People were given lobotomies.  So your opinion on that and how we have gone from that to the future? Like, you know, how do you see things changing in certain ways? Well, if they were going to change in a positive way, we would continue to develop programs that serve people in their homes and in their communities. We would continue to work to develop thriving, resilient communities. And we would provide services to kids in the schools and in their homes and certainly in offices, but in the community. Do you go to people's homes? Yep, we go to people's homes. How does that work within your agency as far as... Well, we're a big agency, so different programs do it differently. We have three of our programs, including our Trauma Treatment program, that have staff that will see people in their homes. Because they can't get to you? Because they can't get to us usually, because maybe they're afraid to come into an office. So maybe it's part of the work itself that they get to a place where they feel okay coming in, but they might not feel okay or they might not have transportation. And so those are issues we can work on with them and sometimes really the best place for them to be seen is in their home. Future goals of your agency, all right? Your agency's been around for a while. What do you see going forward that we're in the 21st century? Because we don't want to go backward. No, we don't. I want to talk about going backward just for a second, because I'd like the viewers to know this. Last year there was a bill that didn't go through to build a huge facility in the way up in the Northeast Kingdom. Northeast Kingdom is where, exactly? Barton, Orleans, Derby. Out in the middle kind of of nowhere in terms of access, in terms of people being able to see their families or have their families come and see them. That would have housed kids, the elderly, people with developmental disabilities, people with what we call the forensic unit, people who are... What's the forensic unit? People who are involved in criminal justice and that have committed crimes that are maybe connected to their mental health problems. And they were all going to be put together in one gigantic building. And that would be going backwards. Wow. That would have been institutionalization. Terrible. Terrible. And so we should pay attention to that and make sure that nothing like that goes through our legislature. In your opinion, when you say that, I'll give you an example. New York had something called Willowbrook. Okay. Where it housed 6,000, 7,000 people. Building A, building B, building C, building 1, 2, 3, whatever. They were unclothed. They weren't fed well in their own feces, et cetera. And then Robert Rivera broke that with parents. And then the Willowbrook consent decree came into being. And then Vermont had the Brandon State School. The Brandon School, which was just as not good. Yeah, because if you put people in one building, for example, if I was put into a building with someone that was criminally negligent or something happened within the criminal system, it's not good. So how do you see that? Explain a little bit more on that. How do you vision that being as bad as the other way? Well, I would hope that we would never go back to the days of the state hospitals that really were their own creators of trauma, right? So you have people who have survived institutionalized trauma, whether it's on the Brandon Training School or the Weeks Training School or our state hospital or the state hospital you're talking about in New York. I would hope we would never go back to that. But I think when you have large institutions, you invite isolation for one thing. And then in isolation, bad things happen. We shouldn't live in isolation. That's not what we're built for as human beings. We need to live in community. And there's lots of research that supports that. They're also trying to get rid of Rikers Island, too. And they're trying to make it smaller facilities. So that's another big thing. So explaining a little bit more, we have some time, of the staff that work with you, are they social workers, clinicians? How is your staff comprised? Sure. So our outpatient program is comprised of psychologists. I'm a psychologist. Social workers, mental health counselors. We also have case managers. And we have that entity called treatment resource coordinators. They're typically, they have a master's degree. They might not be licensed yet. We have some access to psychiatry, though that is a small part of our program. And so that's kind of it, I think. So as far as 9-11 is concerned, it was horrible. Now we're moving to the future. Now, as far as trauma, if someone stuck in a traumatized situation, what should they do, number one? What should they really concentrate on? I guess calling someone you know, explaining a little bit. So if somebody's experienced the trauma and they're recovering, they're trying to recover from that trauma, then they should watch themselves. They should watch their sleep and their eating habits. They should watch their temper. They should pay attention to how their dreams are. And then, right, the first thing that we should do is reach out to the people who we know and trust. It's kind of hard these days. It's kind of hard to trust somebody you don't know. That's true. But if, at the end of a month, you find that you're still being haunted by nightmares of the event, or you're still unable to go back to work in a regular way, or you're still sort of replaying the memory of the trauma over and over again, then it might make sense to reach out to somebody who you don't know. And that would mean, in this area, potentially calling Washington County Mental Health. And the way that that happens is you call our main number, which is 229-0591, and you ask to do a telephone intake. And then that happens within the next couple of days. And if people want to come into our links program, then they ask for that. Or they say that they've experienced the trauma and they're not getting better. Well, I would like to thank you for joining us on this 9-Eleven Anniversary Special. This concludes Abledon Air's 9-Eleven Anniversary Special. We thank Washington County Mental Health for their insight on how to deal with trauma. Again, I'm Lauren Seiler. My wife Arlene is not here, but we leave you with this image. Back on 9-Eleven, there was a gentleman that fell from the towers. Time Magazine took that photograph. We leave you with that image, and we leave you with a couple of minutes of silence for the victims, the families, and the people who survived. Thank you for joining us on this 9-Eleven Anniversary Special. See you next time.