eedback on what you think we could do this year. And if I put these in the wrong year, feel free to give feedback what we could do next year or subsequently, you know, absent all these other larger recommendations that could take place, what can we do given what we've learned over the last couple of years? I think for me, I think working towards reporting, I think the land framework is important. I don't know if that's reasonable this year or not, particularly if we're expecting to still be in a pandemic posture where we're, you know, kind of doing a lighter process than is typical. And I also think that figuring out the pricing cost coverage or a more nuanced way to approach the high level benchmarks that we use is important. Again, we would have to have that figured out in like the next month in order to put it into guidance in March. So I don't know if that's feasible for staff. That seems kind of quick to me, but I don't know. But those to me are priorities. And I think we've talked for a number of years about different sort of trying to think about moving towards per capita benchmarks. And there's been data issues there. So that, again, seems to me something of interest, but not sure. And you seem to be in your suggestion here seems much narrower than what we were talking about before. But I think, you know, directionally, these look interesting. I want to hear from the hospital budget team and the data team about feasibility and timing, because I don't feel like I'm in a place to judge that well. Similarly, I'm not. I don't feel in a place to understand the feasibility and timing issues. But I like the directionality of the per capita basis. I think that that becomes important. Earlier in this session, Jess mentioned the H cup data set. And that would have utilization data that we could incorporate into the budget review. And I'd be interested in exploring what quality measures we have available to us, if any, now, so that it's not just a review of the financial statements. If we're moving toward value, value prioritizes more than just the financial aspect. Yeah, Tom, I don't know if anyone is, you may or may not know this yet, but we had started moving towards incorporating more beyond financial, which we scaled way back during COVID. So I think, you know, during COVID, we really tried to retract and just do the basics, understanding sort of the situation. Yeah, I want to be sensitive to that, of course. And so thanks. I don't know about the feasibility or the timeline, but those are some of the thoughts. Nels? Yeah, this is embarrassing. One quick thing related to this slide is next week, we have our hospital finance team presenting and I know our data team will be available as well as our policy team kind of as backup to that presentation. So I think there could be opportunity to have a bit more discussion with them on this next week. That's where I'd like to see this go. Because I think that these are great, great questions and points to make, but feasibility is a big question. Yeah. Okay. So I think step two would be, you know, so hammer out kind of the vision for the hospital budget process. And I think with that kickoff discussion next week would be great. And then thinking about how, where the intersections are with insurance rate review, CON, ACO budget review and certification. We've talked about the potential next federal agreement. We don't know exactly what that will look like, but you know, where are the opportunities to weave some consistency through what we're learning. So that would be an ongoing conversation. Any other thoughts here? And I think Susan kind of teed that up nicely, but okay. Then that is all I have for you today. And I did want to mention that public comment will keep open. I think we decided until the 26th through end of day 26 so that I know it's shorter, but I'm sorry, without sick. Or maybe it can do the 28th since we've only presented it today. I can do through the 28th and then the reports do the first. So I will have a weekend to weave in any public comment that we hear after today's board meeting. So I'll pass it back to you, Chair Mullen. Thank you. Thank you, Elena. And thank you for all your hard work on this topic. At this point, we're going to open it up for public comment. Does any member of the public wish to comment at this time? And I'm going to call on Jeff Teemann first, Jeff. Thank you. Thank you, Chair Mullen. Good afternoon. I'm Jeff Teemann with the Vermont Association of Hospitals for those who don't know. Another interesting and thoughtful discussion this afternoon, and I apologize that I couldn't hear all of it because of other things going on that pulled me away at various points today, but I do appreciate the opportunity to make a few quick points that I've been sharing this week with anyone and everyone I can. The first is that if you can give blood, please do and encourage others in your life to do so as well. Our hospitals are in the middle of a severe blood shortage that is growing and dangerous, and it's easy to give. You can go to RedCrossBlood.org, type in your zip code, and find where to donate. Second, I encourage all the attendees of this meeting, and I see there are a lot today, to advise your family and friends and others that even if testing is difficult to find, please don't seek COVID diagnostic tests in hospital emergency rooms that are full and overwhelmed with patients who need urgent medical care. And third, when you visit hospitals and doctor's offices, when you do go there, be grateful and kind to the people delivering care. Kevin's wife is one of those people. My partner is another. We know firsthand how stressed they are, so I just think all of us can be amazingly helpful by just being sensitive to what our care teams are managing right now. As far as the sustainability discussion, the hospital association and our members will continue to stay engaged as the work proceeds, and appreciate especially the comments made today around community-driven decision-making. So thank you so much, and I hope everyone has a great weekend. Thank you, Jeff. Very important messages out there. And I think what I heard most recently is a 24-hour supply of blood. Is that correct, Jeff? I don't know, Kevin, that it's quite that dire and it varies from facility to facility. But facilities are making decisions about procedures and other clinical decisions based on the supply of blood. And it's only growing, unfortunately. So we're engaged with the Red Cross and we're engaged with the state and doing everything we can to try to ramp up collection and reduce sort of administrative barriers that can make it challenging. Thank you, Jeff. Thanks. Next I'm going to call on Ham Davis. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just two or three comments. I really don't have questions. One of them is... You could speak up a little, Ham. I'm having trouble hearing you. That's unusual. Thank you, Kevin. I appreciate that. Can you hear me now? A little better. A little better. Wow. Okay. Anyway, a few comments. One of the things I think that people may not take into account adequately, maybe they do, but when you're looking at this whole problem, I think that for the English majors might refer you to Ernest Hemingway, who said once that when asked how people went bankrupt, he said, slowly at first and then very fast. And you're already... We are already, I think, in the very fast stage. And so I don't think you have way out there to begin to do the kinds of things that you have to do. Number two, I think that you can look at some... One of the things that the consultants have that have the consultants that you've had in here from Stroudwater, to Mathematica, to Burns, et cetera, had some very valuable stuff to say. One of the most, I think, was to look at Geisinger, which is one of the top performers in the United States. It's regularly considered in the same breath as Johns Hopkins Mayo Clinic, UW Seattle, and so forth. They have roughly the same... They have an area five times as big as we do, five times. They have nowhere near as accidentally a good road network because almost all of our hospitals, all but three of our hospitals, are right smack on an interstate so that the travel times between hospitals in Vermont are dramatically reduced from what they were in the 19th and early 20th century. That's just going to be a major factor. They have one... They have one critical access hospital and we have eight. I just think that needs to be a factor. Number three, my last comment is, I really think that trying to weigh it all is that the... You really need... I think that Robin and Tom Pelham basically have it right here. It's going to be... You're not going to... This is a nasty problem. What to do with it? It's just really politically wickedly hired. You're not going to solve that problem by handing it off to some guy from away. That just is not going to work in the same way. I don't know whether it was Tom. I think Tom's experience is right. You get this really smart guy. He takes all the political heat. Everybody blames him and then he goes away and then the thing goes away. It's just going to be very, very hard. I'll make one other comment. If you look at the system that needs to be worked on, the fact of the matter is that almost 60% of the whole problem is the UVM health network. The UVM health network cost performance is hugely superior to the whole rest of the system. If you step in and mess with that, that'd just be dumb. Your second biggest player overall is Dartmouth, which is outside your risk, outside your reach. They deliver all the tertiary for the east coast, and that includes all the way over to Bennington and Bridalboro in the south. They also do... And their reach, they reach on tertiary care not only into central Vermont, but also not only into western Vermont. They actually draw some patients from northeastern New York, and you have nothing to do with them. If you take a look at all the care, probably 70% of the care is in charge of people. Your staff is great. I've looked at these kind of staffs. I've looked at these since 1983. That's longer than anybody else. This is by far, by far, by a long reach, the best staff that I have ever seen in the healthcare arena. I'm just saying this is a really tricky problem.  Thank you. Thank you, Ham. And next, I see that one of our team directors has his hand up, Patrick Rooney. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Can you hear me? Can, yes. Great. Yes, this is probably a little unusual, but I wanted to add some commentary for consideration of this work. What a great conversation. It's also very nice to have a fully rounded board in place and active in the discussion for the first time in a few months. So I really appreciate the discussion today. But I wanted to preface my comments by saying that as a member of the board here, I'm not lobbying for any party when I say this. I'm just putting those thoughts forward for consideration on the topic today. But being in my position of overseeing the hospital budget process for a few years now, but the finance team has also taken up some legislative charges of reviewing the Brattleboro retreat and the states designated and specialized services agencies, which are the community-based mental health and developmental disabilities infrastructure here in Vermont, in kind of a unique position to make some of these comments. But I think we missed a couple of significant items here that should be considered as part of the stakeholders group that was discussed earlier and looking at how we changed the current system. And those two items are twin crises that existed for hospitals in the decade plus leading up to COVID that have really been exacerbated by COVID. They will also be there in the post-COVID world. And they may be worse by that time, which is unfortunate because they don't heal like a broken bone or a surgically repaired joint. And those are the mental health and substance misuse crises that still exist in our society today. And we have EDs that are being renovated to meet the demands and necessities of these crises, even doing going so far as having to limit ligature risks and put people into more modern bays so that there's less disruption to other folks coming into these facilities. Security staff are being hired. That is also part of the staffing crunch that we're hearing now, is that security is being undermined by what's happening. We have staff insecurity and violence on staff, higher insurance premiums, working compensation claims are going up, unreimbursed or underreimbursed beds being occupied by patients suffering from these conditions, multiple readmittance, and an inappropriate level of care as these folks who are physical care providers are not able to adequately care for folks in these conditions. And these are patient care issues primarily, but they also have major cost pressures on the system. And we've never looked at what those are or lost reimbursement from some of this activity. But if we're going to constitute any sort of change, I think we have to invite folks who work in that space to the table so that the people who are suffering from these issues can receive an adequate level of care. And then that will allow us to get a really good read on the capacity of our hospitals, because right now they're being asked to do things that they're not trained to do. So I just wanted to add that to the conversation as that has come into my circle over the last couple of years and seems to be of something that needs to be addressed in the state and taken more seriously as we look at health care reform. Thank you. Hey, is there other public comment? Is there other public comment? Hearing none, I'll draw the period of public comment for today to a close. And again, I want to thank Elena. And I'm not sure if Mike is back, but if he is, thank Mike as well. And it's been a great discussion, one that will continue. And with that, is there any old business to come before the board? Hearing none, is there any new business to come before the board? Hearing none, do I have a motion to adjourn? Second. It's been moved by Tom Peay and seconded by Robin to adjourn. All those in favor of the motion, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, signify by saying nay. Thank you, everyone, and have a great rest of the day. If you're able, give blood. And if you're not able, try to spread the word.


Hi, I'm Kate Young, and you're listening to This Is Purdue, the official podcast for Purdue University. As a Purdue alum and Indiana native, I know firsthand about the family of students and professors who are in it together, persistently pursuing and relentlessly rethinking. Who are the next game changers, difference makers, ceiling breakers, innovators? Who are these boiler makers? Join me as we feature students, faculty and alumni taking small steps toward their giant leaps and inspiring others to do the same. I don't think there's a place out there better for me than Purdue University. I'm familiar with it. I understand it. I understand what's important. Purdue has an unbelievable brand, so we keep sending that message. This is a life decision. This opportunity to be on scholarship and be at Purdue and have all these things is great, but now going forward, you should use this as a springboard, not just to have a great basketball career, but have a great life. Basketball season in Indiana. It comes around every year, but this year, with this Purdue Men's Basketball team, Purdue fans can feel it. There's something different in the air. I've been so excited to share this interview with Purdue Men's Basketball head coach Matt Painter with you all. When I was at Purdue, we were experiencing our Robbie Hummel, Ichwan Moore, and Jawan Johnson-era. The buzz surrounding that team, those players, it was real. And there's a lot of buzz surrounding the Purdue team this season, too. The official preseason AP poll has us listed seventh in the nation, which is actually the highest ranking Purdue has had since 2009, during the era I just mentioned. And John Rothstein, a college basketball insider for CBS, recently took to Instagram to share his thoughts on this year's team. He said, I've seen over 20 teams play live this preseason and none look better than Purdue. Now, most people, including myself, are excited about all this hype, thrilled. But Coach Painter, he chooses to dive into the work with his team, and while he would prefer to be ranked at the end of the season. Well, for a coach, it's a little different. You know, you're very process-based in terms of working every day, trying to have those building blocks to obviously get ready for your first game. I think for us, sometimes in coaching, even though you have experienced players, you have to relearn things. Just like live or watching a movie and say, hey, I've seen this movie, but man, I forget how it finishes. I mean, everybody's had that moment. And once you do, you feel like a fool and say, you know, how do I forget that? But that happens in basketball a lot from one season to another. You know, you have to be able to build things through the summer and do your best that you can do. But it's not like practicing, you know, six days a week, whatever it might be with your fall and winter schedule. So for us, just trying to improve, try not to miss any steps and just simply get better every single day. I know that's kind of Coach's talk and you're excited about the person. What you don't realize is it's all relatively speaking. There's a lot of change in college basketball at the one-time transfer. We were one of four high major teams that didn't take a transfer. We returned our eight leading scores, seven leading scores, something like that. Then we've added some really good freshmen.  So just trying to kind of stay the course. And you know, it's nice to be ranked. It's nice to be preseason ranked, but you also want to be there at the end of the year and not the beginning of the year. Right. And then do you guys feel extra pressure coming into the season? I don't. I mean, I think each guy's a little bit different probably in that regard. But I think for the most part you don't. Like you just dive into the season, you dive into doing your job and working. You know, it's hard enough the way it is.  The thing that you can't let happen is that social media and sometimes the attention could be a real positive. But then sometimes it could be a negative. You know, you take in the attention or the intel. So you have to communicate some of those things. You know, you're not going to take criticism from somebody you don't take advice from. And then so that's a good way of just kind of gauging where you are and gauging what's going on. But they do. They read a lot and take that in. And I think that mounts a little bit of pressure with guys. So you just have to help them and how they decipher everything. On Tuesday, November 9th, the Boilermakers kick off the season with a home game against Bellarmine University. The team's first home game this season also marks the first time some of these players will get to experience Mackie Arena in all its glory. How do you think it'll feel for the team and for you to be back in Mackie and impact-stating? I think it'll be great. A lot of our guys, you know, our freshmen have never been through that, but our sophomores haven't been through that, too. We have two redshirt sophomores right now and they were here their first year when they were fans, but they both redshirted. And so we have a lot of guys that haven't been through. You know, Isaiah Thompson has been through it. Our seniors have been through it. And that's it. I think it's going to be a real electric for everybody. I think we've seen that with our first home football game. You know, everybody was excited about it. Everybody's excited to get back in the stands. Obviously, they played well and they won the game and that was great. But I think you're going to see that across our campus with a lot of sporting events. Do you think the players learned any important lessons and like now they're ready to come back with a bang? You know, you have to bring your own energy, whether you have fans or not. But when you're in Mackie Arena, the fans kind of do that for you. So that was really our two cents to our players, you know, in our prep was just, hey, we have to bring energy. Our bench has to bring energy. People on the floor have to bring energy. The coaches have to bring energy. And sometimes that's done. That job is done for you when you're in an environment like Mackie Arena. So that was really our message, just sticking together, helping each other out, but being positive and bringing that energy. Mackie has always discussed this somewhere that's extremely hard to play at. Why do you think the Boilermaker spirit thrives so much in here? Well, I think, first of all, we have good players. I think sometimes that gets lost. You know, we're in a basketball country here in the state of Indiana. Through the years, you know, traditionally, we've had really good players. And our fans are fabulous. Our fans are, in my opinion, educated fans. I would say they're going to yell when they're upset and things are going to happen. But for the most part, we're very spoiled here because we have great student body. We have great fans. But more than anything, we have, we have pretty good players. And I think that's the key. Speaking of good players. In the first one, sports recently named Jaden Ivy, a preseason second team, All-American and Trayvon Williams, a preseason third team, All-American. And sports illustrated named Trayvon, a junior at Purdue in the top 30 best basketball players in the entire country. When it comes to college basketball, a strong recruitment strategy is often key to a winning program. Coach Painter compares recruitment to a puzzle, a puzzle that's never quite complete. How do you get the right fits for this Purdue culture? Yeah, well, it's an inexact science. Just when you think you've got things figured out, you don't. You have to always be working. Your puzzle is never complete.  There's things that are always changing.  I know for somebody who's not in coaching, they don't realize that there's just a lot of variables and a lot of moving parts with your team, but just trying to get a good player, a good student, a good person. And people would like think, well, then that's profound. That's obvious, but that's hard to do, especially when you're trying to get something of size, you know, an elite player and things of that nature. We've really been a program of development. So seeing guys that, you know, where are they going to be in three to four years? They're upside. Do they want to be at Purdue? Where do they fit in at Purdue on campus, schematically in basketball? So there's a lot of things that go into it. The other thing is when you've done it a while, you have your history of success, but you also have your history of failures and it doesn't mean something is wrong. It just didn't work with you before.  Then if that does work, it kind of gets you to change a little bit. So why was this different and how did it work? So you're always thinking through those things of, you know, what works for you, what works at Purdue. And then you just try to make the most thing. What happens for us is when we get stuck and coaches understand this is that we're not drafting players. You know, we're recruiting players and so we're trying to get them to come. You got to do a good job of evaluating, but you also have to have plan B, C and D if you don't get who you want. That's sometimes the sticky point because like if you just don't have any big guys on your roster, you know, that would obviously be foolish. And there's not as many big guys out there as there is quality guards. So those things are so important when you're trying to feel the team and figure things out is, you know, what is your emergency evacuation plan when you don't get who you want. This year marks coach painter 17th season at Purdue. I asked him how recruiting has changed from when he was a player to when he first became a head coach to today. How is the explosion of social media impacted at all? And how does he find young men who will fit within Purdue's culture and mesh well with the coaching staff and team? I'm very fortunate because I've been able to stay at Purdue for a long time. So you see the benefits of the consistency where when you see change a lot of other places in college basketball, it's hard. It's hard to pick up the pieces and change all the time every four, five, six, seven years. And it just when you can have some consistency that really helps everybody. It helps everybody in your program. It helps your recruits that are coming in, you know, looking at things and saying, hey, they're guys are getting better. They're guys are graduating. I want to be in that position here in four or five years. So I think that's really helped us. Emotional people are going to look at things differently than people are looking at the values of a program and things of that nature. So you get a couple of different thinkers when you go through the process. You've got to get that figured out and say, like, who is really best here and who's going to flourish in your program? And sometimes we get blinded as coaches by maybe the talent level and a certain spot. And now they're not a great fit, but man, they give us some length or they give us some quickness. So sometimes as coaches, we make those type of mistakes. And so when you get into social media, don't recruit through social media. Don't recruit through somebody else's opinion.  Right. And like only you know if they would fit in the pretty culture, right? And you got to be able to handle it. Like you got to be able as a coach, like when something is obvious to everybody else and you know, it's not going to work. You know, you got to be able to take that just like losing. You got to allow your losses to form who you are as a program, as a coach, as players and then build use those losses as positives. The same kind of goes, you know, with that area also. It's like be able to understand just because everybody is saying something or everybody is trending a certain way or somebody is ranked high. There's guys that are ranked in the top 100 that are in the 30s that I wouldn't take over somebody who's at like 110, but they're playing for us at Purdue. It's different. Like, you know what works in your program. You know, you have to be fair to your players.  You can't say, okay, here's the way it's going to be in three months. You know, that's just no, it's not the way it's going to be. I shouldn't say that it might be that way. You know, they have to earn it. Yeah, no doubt. And so you have to make sure everybody understands that in your program. And I think that's really helped us with our chemistry and our culture is that, you know, we're not giving out promises that this is how many minutes you're going to play. This is where you're going to go. This is automatic. You know, you got to come in and earn it. And a lot of people look at you and they're not quite hearing what they want to hear. But then if they've been through it before, they respect it. And Coach Katie was always that way. You know, he was always very forthright. And I think once you are that way with your players, now you might lose some people that way. You might lose some recruits that way. But when you do get them, now you're going to get the best version of that guy. And then it's meant to be if you lose them because they're not playing the Purdue way. Correct. They want promises. There's just no promises. There just isn't. Like if you're, it's not an individual sport. It's a team sport. You're going to make decisions on what's best for your team. Coach Painter focuses on developing student athletes who will represent Purdue with pride. A commitment to the community is part of Painter's focus on student athlete development. And his players devote themselves to that cause, spending numerous hours volunteering their time back into the community. Coach says it's all about balance. Just having a balance, you know, they appreciate the support that they get. The thing that I've always preached to them is I, you know, use myself as an example is like if they fire me tomorrow, we're still going to have a season. And keep things in perspective that we're lucky to be at Purdue and Purdue is not lucky to have us.   And then when you get here, it's like, you're a part of it. You could be a big part of it right away.  Just like any great academic institution, you know, they will work for you. Purdue has an unbelievable brand. Having that brand and having that blue collar, hard nose, great education, great people. That's what we want to keep getting guys that are looking in that direction. I think once you get guys that kind of understand that, they start using this opportunity to have a great life. If you're just going to have a great basketball career and that's all you're going to have, then you've been shortchanged, but you've allowed yourself to be shortchanged. So we keep sending that message that, you know, this is a life decision, this opportunity to be on scholarship and be at Purdue and have all these things is great. But, you know, now going forward, you should use this as a springboard. Not just to have a great basketball career, but have a great life. Coach Peter also mentioned the NCAA's new name image likeness opportunities has spurred a few workouts and camps with kids. He discusses NIL and its impact on college basketball. I think there's going to be some real positives from it. And I think there'll be some unintended consequences from it. There'll be some negatives. But like anything, you know, you just have to be able to manage something and do what's right for your players and do what's right for your program. I don't think anybody is going to like sit down and say, okay, education is really important to me. Being around good people is really important to me. Fitting in a basketball program is really important to me. Now name image likeness is more important than those three things I just said. It doesn't mean it's not important. It just can't leapfrog the things that's going to be with you. I always talk about our guys and say, hey, you're going to be a former player for 40, 50, 60 years. Keep it in perspective. You know, the basis of what you're doing and the decisions that you're making has to have substance. Choosing a school for academics, choosing a school for the people, choosing a school for the track record or the basketball program, I think are the pillars when it comes to decision making. But sometimes that gets lost with some people. You know, you get some emotional decision makers in there. Then they look back and then all of a sudden they're transferring really quick or they're not happy and things like that happen. So, you know, you have to be concrete and thought when you're going through these things. But I do think that name image likeness has a positive spin to it where guys can make some money. Guys can do some things. Our guys have done workouts with kids. They've done camps with kids. And so that's really where we've been so far with our guys. Obviously we can't direct our guys in anything right there. And I think that's kind of the push to coaches out there is like, you know, hey, make sure you stay within the parameters what this rule was intended to do and not use it and abuse the rule. So I think that piece is kind of on the shoulders of the coaches to make sure they follow those rules and do what's best for college basketball. Something interesting I learned during my research for this interview was that coach painter actually dreamed of going to a certain school in southern Indiana. Their colors are red and white and okay, fine. One might say they're also known as a basketball school. I read that you wanted to play for IU when you were growing up. What's that about? Our whole family, most of our family, I should say went to IU. Oh my goodness. So we grew up in Indiana fans. Okay. So what brought you to Purdue? Coach Katie, you know, the opportunity. It was a blessing in disguise for me. They wanted Indiana wanted me to go one more year and go to prep school for a year and then come there and they had some really good players at the time in my class at the time before that. And so then I liked coach Katie and he was very honest in the recruiting. So I was just something that kind of opened my eyes. I was emotional like we're talking about and I was not going to allow Purdue to recruit me just because I'd just grown up a Indiana fan and the writers started to kind of think about it and Purdue got in there. You know, my parents really talked about how it was a business decision and as a people business and, you know, give them a chance and if you don't like them, then so be it. And then right, they started recruiting my life. I liked everything about them. It was great. It was a good decision on my part. I probably wouldn't have made it without my parents' guidance of helping me do that. I feel at that point like not everybody has that next to, you know, some people will have that will sit down and be devil's advocate and do what's best for them. Sometimes it kind of goes the other way where, you know, they're making a decision like they're the recruit. They're not the recruits. So I think people that are close to recruits, they know they're happy. And it's so important that you go somewhere that you're going to be happy and you can sustain and stay for your entire career. So you had that one track like I'm going to IU and that's that. And then your parents who are IU fans, we talked to you. Yeah, my dad went to school there. Uncle, my grandfather and my brother and my cousin. So you can kind of take the picture. What were family centers like? Oh, they're fine. They're fine. Everybody was great about it. And so, but they got a chance to meet people at Purdue. They got a chance to meet Coach Katie. And so everybody really liked Coach Katie. So that was simple. They were fine. I'm sure I'm not the only Purdue fan out there feeling very glad Coach Painter decided to play at Purdue. And you and Coach Katie have such a unique relationship. There's been two coaches at Purdue in 42 years. Correct. You and him. Tell us about your relationship and how he's still involved at Purdue and how he's impacted you. Well, he's been able to travel with us at times. Obviously he lives in Myrtle Beach now. So he's not around all the time when he comes in for kind of a period of time trying to see two, three games. He likes coming to the practices. He probably misses that more than anything. But he follows a lot of not just Purdue, but like his former assistants, his former players that are now in coaching. And so he's a huge basketball fan. But no, we stay in contact. We talk about things and he wants to see Purdue do well. He gave 25 years of his life to Purdue University. So it means a lot to me. He means a lot to our other coaches. And obviously our entire program and our fans, I think our fans get a kick out of it. Obviously when he comes back and he's still competitive when he's in the stands and cheering us on.  And that's not who he is as a person. So he's always there for people and just wants to see Purdue do well. So clearly coach Katie has a special place in coach Painter's life. And as coach Painter describes his former coach and mentor genuinely wants to see Purdue excel. But what was it like playing for the legendary coach Jean Katie and how has coach Katie impacted Purdue's program? He was demanding. He was really demanding after losses. But in my opinion, he's easy to play for. He was simple. He expected you to give your best. He expected you to compete.  It was a great experience. Something that I, you know, I didn't look back and the thing that they've been able to do for me, Tom Ryder and Bruce Weber and, you know, all the coaches, not just coach Katie, but like after I was done, I went into coaching and those guys hired me and helped me and helped me get other jobs, helped me get this job. And so like, that's kind of the thing that we have. I think that we're not going to be there for years of your career. You know, you're going to have us afterwards and then they've always been there for me. And I've always appreciated that. And there's nothing I can really do to repay them. So you got to pay it forward and help the next guy out who comes through this program. Do you have any favorite stories or something maybe behind the scenes with coach Katie? You know, he had an uncanny ability to be able to tell that somebody and tell them they were okay in the same sentence. I don't think either I'm like excited and supportive or I'm upset. Like, I mean, I'm not in the gray area. I'm in one of the other. And so it was a way to whenever something happened, he was great at being able to fix it and make you feel good about it all in the kind of same breath. And it was like, it's obviously an art. It's a talent. It's a talent. I'm still amazed by how it was. We leave the locker room or wherever we were meeting or talking about it. I go, I guess we're okay. We're fine now. Right? And, you know, it's always eventful. You know, it was always eventful. He would, they seemed as a coaching staff, like they were prepared. And it's something that I've always taken with me of just kind of making your hard work fun. Like, is it demanding? Yes. Is it tough? Yes. Do you have to sacrifice without question? Everybody has to sacrifice when you win. And the people around players have to sacrifice. That's sometimes a tough piece to be understanding because they want to see their son or daughter do really well in competitive sports. And so, you know, he was somebody that did that. You know, we worked hard, but we tried our best to make it fun. I didn't think the conditioning was fun. I didn't think the lift or weights was fun, but the basketball piece was pretty demanding. But, you know, we really worked together and we're competitive together to have fun with it. Well, I think it's kind of the blueprint that Coach Katie left for here. We've used a lot of it from an academic standpoint from understanding big picture things of holding guys accountable, academically, socially, but also holding them accountable basketball-wise.  And I think that's something our fans really appreciate. When it kind of gets to social media or whatever, you can't be an old curmudgeon and just like say, oh, I'm older and social media. I don't care about all that. No, that's the way it is. You know, you have to adapt as you start to get older as a person. I think that's so important as a coach as a player is to be able to adapt, be able to use something in a positive fashion, but also understand nothing changes in terms of the pillars of success. You still have to be on time places. You still have to try your best. You still have to be a good teammate. Like those things are always going to be there. You can't turn the ball over. You have to rebound. You know, you have to win that possession war in a game, especially if you have a little bit less talent. Those things don't change. And that's something for your guys and like what leads to winning, what leads to success, what leads to us having that good harmony within ourselves as a program. Those things don't change. Now the information and how we get it changes. Everybody knows everything, but it's no different than 30 or 40 years ago when you told somebody growing up, you know, don't believe everything you read. Now you just read more and now you see more.  I was like, well, what's wrong? These 18 or 19 and these guys are 21, 22. They're more experienced and doesn't mean they're better, but they're just in a better position right now because of their experiences that they've already had that that person hasn't had in time. Obviously he's the talent. He's going to grow into that when you don't know. I always say that about players like, hey, he's going to be a really good player. When he's going to be a player depends on all these other variables. And so you try to do everything in your power as a coach to help that person be successful. How do you sense that that they're going to be a really good player? Just their abilities and their production. You get the contrast of talent versus production. If you just want to go get the most talented guys, you're going to find some guys in that talent pool that's productive. But sometimes you're going to find people that can jump over the moon, but they can't get a rebound. They're just very talented. They can do a lot of different things, but when you get into a game, are you doing productive things to help your team win? We get gauged on winning. You don't get gauged on rankings. You get gauged on how constructive are you working with four other people on the team to help your team win. So don't get lost in that, but also find the really talented people that are productive. That's the key. You've got to be able to see what they've done before and then what fashion and what environment. We get to watch guys in a lot of different environments. So you get to see them play open gym in their high school. You get to see them practice their high school. You get to see them play a high school game. You see them in an AAU game. You see them huddle or synergy on film. And so you're seeing a lot of them. You're getting their stats. You're breaking things down. You have a transcript.   So you just have to use your experiences, you know, close to 30 years of coaching and evaluating going through the process yourself as a player. So you have a wealth of experiences that should help you as you've made a lot of mistakes. Hopefully you may have more success stories than making mistakes. And it's not really a mistake in like taking a player. It's making a mistake in the process of evaluation or in the process of understanding what's going to work at Purdue. And so that's what I kind of started with with that puzzle. That's what you're always kind of working towards and realizing that you're never ever going to be 100% kind of in this exact science. And another part of Coach Katie and now Coach Painter's legacy at Purdue, the rivalry between Purdue and that other university Coach Painter was very close to attending. And when we talk about other schools in the state, why do you think the IU Purdue rivalry is so special? I think it's great. Sometimes you'll have some in-state rivalries like in North Carolina Duke that's within your conference. And so like we have the same thing. We have that in-state rivalry and it's within a conference too. So I think anytime you have that within the state you're going to have through the years the rivalry gets branded. But it's still trying to win a big 10 championship and trying to beat your rival too. So that makes it even bigger than it really is. So I think it's exciting that some of my best moments as a player is being able to beat Indiana. Coach Knight was such an icon and they were so successful. And so that was really our measuring stick when I played and Coach Knight was at Indiana. That was the measuring stick. You had to be more successful than Indiana. That was huge. That was big for us. Indiana and Coach Knight made us better. There's no doubt about that. That competitiveness, that rivalries, those personalities. Coach Knight and Coach Katie, that was cool. I don't think you'll ever see that again. I would agree with that. Is there anything special that you and the team do to prepare for these rival games? Not really. We try to keep our focus on doing our job and knowing what's going on. We'll do some things every now and then just to make sure if we're going into a place like a Michigan State or an Indiana, how loud it can get, they probably do the same thing when they come into Macurated. We'll bring in the noise and practice that way where we can't hear ourselves think. And things of that nature. We'll have some former players reach out to our current players to kind of set the tone for how important it is to them. And so to make sure they understand. Sometimes you'll get a younger player, especially somebody from a distance that doesn't totally grasp it yet. So we want to make sure they grasp it before they go through it. When they're walking into assembly hall, they're not like, what's this happening? Yeah. Yeah, the other question. Purdue basketball has seen immense success over the years. The team hasn't lost to IU since early 2016. And we have made the NCAA tournament the past six years. But we're still aiming for a national championship, which brings us to that elite eight game in the 2019 NCAA tournament. Yeah, you know the one. I had watched a few Purdue games that season, but as they kept making their way through the tournament, I started to pay attention more and more. And then the elite eight game brought them to Louisville. When I thought tickets posted from someone I followed on Twitter, I went straight to the DMs and claimed them. It was just a two hour drive from me. My husband is an IU grad, so I didn't offer him my second ticket. No, no way.  Although she's a Michigan State grad herself, she was also Grady Eifert's kindergarten teacher, and she genuinely enjoys college basketball. She was in. And it suddenly turned into a family affair when my dad and my brother came along too. When we walked into the KFC Yum Center, it felt like it was practically a home game for us. Carson Edwards scored 42 points and Ryan Klein was absolutely on fire. The whole team was. It was a competitive game that brought us into overtime. But we all know the outcome of this game. And I'm not a sports reporter or a basketball expert. The coach painters thoughts about this game really surprised me. 2019 was a really big year for a pretty basketball. I ended up going to that game in Louisville. It was amazing, but it was heartbreaking. What lessons do you think, you know, we're learned after a game like that? I think for that season, you know, we started off six and five. We lost four starters. The four reserves on that elite 18 big 10 championship team. 2019, you know, those guys were reserves and now they became starters. And I didn't think when we had struggled that we were playing the wrong guys. Like sometimes you get to where it's like, man, like I got to find the right combination. Maybe a couple of these guys are just reserves and they're not starters and that happens sometimes. I didn't feel that way. I felt like, Hey, we're playing the right guys. I like these guys. We have to play better within what we're trying to do. Obviously we had an electric player in Carson Edwards. We had a very experienced player in Ryan Klein, Grady Eifert, Matt Harms, no gel Eastern, like those guys really shaped our team and really helped our team there. So to get to that point at the end of the season and we lost in the quarterfinals of the big 10 tournament, didn't play well after getting a share of the big 10 title and then really started to play well and the NCAA tournament really started to shoot well. Obviously Carson was very hot and made a lot of shots and so just a lesson learned. Like you never know. Like sometimes you can be playing well and just kind of keep that momentum going and then sometimes you could be struggling and then a switch. The NCAA tournament is a crapshoot. People don't realize when you play somebody in the NCAA no matter where your seat is, they're good too. Everybody earned their way into it. You're on a neutral court.   I don't feel that with that game. Most of the time you do feel it. You do feel like, man, I wish we had these things back. Someone will go, well, I wish you could go back and make this shot or make that shot. Well, that's different. Everybody's trying to make those shots. That's not what you do as a coach. You go back and say, I wish I wouldn't have ran this and ran this at this time or maybe played this guy a little bit more through this stretch or had an offense defense sub more. And you don't feel that way after you watch that game. And obviously you have to go back and watch it for us because we ended up playing Virginia in the ACC Big 10 Challenge the next year. So you go through and it's tough to watch. When people bring it up, you want to grab a couple of pencils and jam them in your eyes just because it's... I'm sorry. It's painful to a degree. Like when you get a question about it, man, but you've got to use that kind of anguish to motivate you to push forward, to get back in that position and just be a little bit better. And what people don't realize is we did get into overtime and we do have a lead under a minute in overtime too. So like we were in very good positions twice, comes down to one play, one possession both times and give them credit because they got, Virginia got into the final four and was in that position both of those games again, where they were in a tough spot and they found their way through those things and that's what you have to be able to do. It's a fine line between winning and losing and you've got to be able to make that one more play to help your team. That's so interesting that you're okay with that loss. You're okay with your decision-making is what you're okay with.  A lot of things get dissected in basketball is an easier game to understand but it's still watched by millions and understood by few. Even though if you watch a college football game or a professional football game, you have to have some background in football to be able to understand everything. If you have no background, you're not going to understand anything. Well, basketball is a little bit different. So more people understand it. More people don't think they understand it. They get a grasp. But it's just a little bit easier. You get a lot of that. There's an old saying in coaching. If you listen to those people, you'll be sitting with those people. You have to be strong in your convictions but you also have to have an open mind to be able to think things through to say, you know, hey, maybe I should have done this or maybe I should have done that in those positions and you'd like to get some of those moments back. But that wasn't one of those examples. Coach Painter is a true boiler maker. He went here. He played here. He now coaches here. He raised his family here. He shares what the Purdue community means to him. We've talked about the Purdue community, the culture, the spirit. What's it been like living here, raising your family in West Lafayette? It's been great. It's a nice place to live.  But no, it's cool. It's a great location. It's the community is obviously very supportive. It has a little bit of a high school ring to it in terms of when you have games, everybody comes and watches and support. You don't have to battle professional sports here. Indianapolis is close and Chicago is close, but still in this community, football, men's basketball and all of our sports, it's a big deal. I think that is something that I really look forward to is being able to come back in, come back into Mackie and see those fans and all the people that have supported us. But no, it's a super place to live and obviously the education is very good in the high schools in this area.  He's a manager for the team now. What's it like working with him? It's good. He gets excited, probably a little bit more excited than I do at times. As a coach, your emotions and how you do things like you try to measure them and you try to stay one step ahead. So sometimes you're not even thinking about what's in front of you as much as what could possibly happen at the next step. So you're kind of being that way. He's not that way. He's fanatical and he's cheering on the team and very, very supportive. So it's cool to have him. And do you think he got the love of basketball from you or he's always been that way? He's always been that way. He's that way about Purdue football too. He's a big supporter of Purdue football. He wants to talk about it a lot more than I want to talk about. I like doing it and then kind of... Decent pressing? Yeah.  People always say, who are you going to start or what are you going to do here? And I'm like, I'm waiting for the players to tell me. So he's always wanting those answers from me and I always give him the same answers. And whoever earns it, whoever gets it. But then he'll talk to me about string-free safety and Purdue football and be like, hey man, unless you give me a program, I don't know who that is or what's going on. But he stays on top of it with our team and obviously with the football team. I'm sure Brayden caught that incredible Boilermaker football win against number two ranked Iowa on October 16th. Anyways, Coach Painter has seen tremendous success at Purdue. He has won four big 10 Coach of the Year honors, which is tied for the third most in league history. Coach Katie 1-7, Coach Knight 1-5, and Coach Ryan also won four. And Coach Painter's 13 NCAA tournaments are the most for a coach nationally under the age of 55. Coach Painter explains why he chooses Purdue again and again and again. You know, why Purdue? Why have you continued to stay here? If you were a player here, you have a long history with Purdue basketball, but why here? I think it's the best place for me. Anytime you have success, you can't look at it like Bill Walsh calls it the disease of me. When you're in a group or an organization and you run it, there's a lot of people that lead to your success. And you can't look at it. Well, a lot of coaches look at it like, I'm the reason why we've had this success.  You know, I'm yet to see a great basketball coach and bad players. I'm just yet to see it. I don't think that exists. So, you know, your product is your players and you have to have good people. You have to have good players around you. And then you have to have the support. So like when you're looking at jobs, you look at Purdue as a job and you say, well, what do I want to do? What do I want to achieve? But, you know, it's got great academics. It's got great people and they've had a really successful basketball program through the years. And so now you've got to be able to go match that and then raise it the next level to say this job is going to be better than Purdue. I don't think there's a place out there better for me than Purdue University. I'm familiar with it. I understand it. I understand what's important. But I also stay in my lane. Like, I'm just the basketball coach. Like, I'm not making decisions on campus. I just want to be the basketball coach. And that's been very easy and healthy for me in that regard. We have a great president. We have a great board of directors. We have a great AD and Michael Bensky. I always say to other coaches out there and they wouldn't be able to comment publicly. I said, but who can say that in high major basketball? I always say, hey, you guys are going in this direction on campus. You're going in this direction financially. You're going in this direction. Everything that you do and Purdue's really going in a great direction and it's having a lot of success. And you're not even talking about basketball. Now when you're in the situation that we are in this state, why would you want to go anyplace else? Like, this is just the perfect fit for me. Good luck to Coach Painter and the Purdue men's basketball team as they enter this season. And as the kids say, death, taxes, Matt Painter. Be sure to head over to our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash Purdue University to see my full video interview with Coach Painter right on KD Core in Mackie Arena. Thanks for listening to This is Purdue. For more information on this episode, visit our website at purdue.edu slash podcast. There you can head over to your favorite podcast app to subscribe and leave us a review. And as always, boiler up.


What's up everybody, Jason here for jaspyscagebix.com. We just sold out 2022 hip parade exclusive, multi-sport, six box case break, random player number eight of Jaspys hip parade exclusive. Now guys, this is a 32 spot break, everybody gets a random player from the list below. We get one card per box, and there's some of the chasers that you can potentially pull. Some of them we have pulled already. I know I personally pulled a Mike Trafford somebody in the last case, and I'm sure we pulled a couple more of those. We have three cases left, eight, nine, and 10, so two left after this guys. And of course the full player list is there, so here's the customer names. Here's the player list, oh, Kings and Lemieux is getting in a fight with, can't even tell who that is for Boston. But, here we go guys, let's do the randomizer and see what players you guys get matched up with. Two and a one, three times, good luck. One, two, three. Three times, David down to Alan. Three times, one, two, three. Three, three, three. Mack Jones on a Jalen Waddle. All right, so David you have Mack Jones, Hyro with Alan Iris and Tim with Jalen Hurts, Shaq for Hyro. Phillipo with John and Taylor, yeah, J Taylor, John and Taylor, yeah. Chris Maxwell, Jalen Green, Hyro with Jordan Alvarez, Chris with Nolan Ryan, Chad with KDB, Scotty Barnes for Chris Parent, Hyro with Aaron Rodgers, Todd with Justin Herber, Jamar Chase for Bennett, Gene Wang with Wayne Rooney. Chris with Joellen Bied, Ryan with Cristiano Ronaldo, Phillipo with Albert Pujolsari and Jordan Poole, Danny with Aaron Judge, David with Christian Pulisic, David with Anthony Edwards, Tim with Justin Fields, Tyler with Acunia, Alan with Tatis, Phillipo with Kevin Durant, Chad with Min Sun, Danny. Deacons with Joe Burl, Phillipo with Juan Soto, Hyro with Mike Trout, Todd with Tyler Murray and Hyro with Anthony Davis, as well as Alan Murdock with Jalen Waddle. All right, if anybody wants to make any trades, Deacons saying he wants to make a trade, Judge and Burl are up for trade, so. Just remember guys, some of these may be chasers, they might have been pulled, but there is multiple hits for those guys, most likely, because we have hit them in the past, so you never know. I mean, people might be watching, but I guess they don't want to trade or chat, so I guess we'll have to close it then, Deacons. Outside the shop, oh, we closed, I got six o'clock today, man. Only the breakers are here and a couple of the sorters shippers. On Fridays and Saturdays, we're open until eight o'clock. Oh, gotcha, you just passing by, you're right here on PR and PCH, gotcha. I was like, don't be outside, because we're not gonna open it. Chats saying if you want KDB, I'm in zone. If not, Deacons, Kevin DeBruin, the soccer player. I'm not enclosing it. Want to do that trade? Okay, Judge for KDB, I'll do that. So there you go, guys. Trade is made. So we have case nine of 10, and like I mentioned, guys, we only have three cases total left. So two left after this. So if you're chasing specifically one of those chasers and we don't hit it here, we got a 50-50 shot and neither being at nine or number eight, being at number 10. All right, here we go, 24 out of 60. And we have Anthony Edwards flux rookie autograph and he graded a PS810. Very nice. Flux was a very popular product release for a lot of people. And Anthony Edwards, that is going to David. Lucky number 13 out of 60 here. Philip Benoit, our thick card. Sounds like an Eminence card, kind of. No, maybe not. Playbook. And it's Jamar Chase. Out of 199. This should just be the base, the base booklet. Let me quickly just show you guys. Yeah, it's just the base booklet. But Jamar Chase, Bennett. How you going, man? Anthony Davis, that's technically a rookie. 86 out of 199 from 2012-13 Limited Basketball. And Anthony Davis is going to Iowa. Three more to go, six out of 60. Out trade mojo. Kevin DeBruin, five out of 49 immaculating KDB. And that is trade mojo. DeCons now has KDB. All right, so let's see if we can even it up. Potential and Aaron Judge, 11 out of 60. And how about a little Mac Jones, nice NFL gear RPA from NT Football. Little two-color patch on the right, little pigskin on the left. Mac Jones doing Patriots. Patriots, or sorry, not Patriots. Mac Jones is David. All right, last one here guys, 27 out of 60. And it's Top's Fire, your Don Alvaro's PSA 10, 2020. Orange, 10.99. And then of course, your Don Alvaro's is Hyrule. And it looks like the chaser in this one was the Anthony Edwards Influx Auto, PSA 10. So that was the bigger hit in there. But a pretty solid case though, guys. Pretty, pretty solid. So which ones are we missing then guys? Does anybody remember? I don't even have done a couple of these. So I have no clue who one else has been hit minus the Edwards and the Mike Trout. So we're missing two more bigger chaser hits. Like I said, we have two cases left. Jaspiescasebreaks.com guys, thanks.


Good morning and welcome to the weekly market update with me. David Madden today's date is Monday the 26th of October 2020 and the time has just gone 1050 GMT and It's been a fairly negative start to the European trading session We essentially have major concerns renewed concerns about the health crisis rising number of case levels in many European countries also It's it's quite a nasty looking situation in in the US some states have been hit harder than others with the Rise in number of cases has also come tighter restrictions the most extreme example The Spanish government has announced a set of emergency We've we've already seen tighter localized restrictions here in the UK same goes The top of restrictions in terms of curfews and whatnot in the likes of France and Italy So we have seen a kind of a quite a sour shift in sentiment in the in the last Comparing fright comparing Monday morning with Friday Things are looking really really reasonably negative What's also in the mix as always The kind of two-ing and fro-ing on the political front both the EU UK But also on the Democrats and the Republicans in the US It's usual story with the United States traders are probably growing largely skeptical that a Coronavirus relief package will be achieved between the Democrats and the Republicans before No before the 3rd of November, which is the date of the US presidential election But of course over the weekend we heard from Nancy Pelosi of the Democrats that it's still possible but we've been hearing that line for quite some time now and No and a deal has yet to be achieved on the bright side and The European Union's negotiating team who are supposed to depart London yesterday Announced that they were going to be staying on in the UK and continuing talks Until Wednesday, so that has been seen as a positive sign Obviously, there's no just because you're hanging around longer Doesn't necessarily mean that he's going to be greatly achieved But it's all about the optics if they're if there's if they're staying around longer It suggests that progress has been made things have gotten a bit quiet on that front as well in terms of What both sides are saying? Usually that's a sign that you know, they're really getting down to business no guarantees but it's when you're when you're hearing on a regular basis individuals from both sides making statements or or else people close to the talks are Passing on what they've heard that's normally a sign that progress hasn't been made when it's a bit when things are required Or that's often the indication that things are heading in the right direction So of all the stuff that that's going on It would seem that things are heading ever so slightly in the right direction with regards to the UK EU trade talks That's the kind of major topics of the Marcus today Let's take a look now at the week ahead article the way the week ahead article can be found on a website CMC Marcus calm under insights under latest news and analysis First off the bat BP the the major oil Titan. They have third quarter numbers coming up tomorrow We also have an update from HSBC. Keep in mind on Friday. Just gone. We will receive numbers from Barclays So that that that I really given a nice boost to British banking stocks on Friday. Just gone with bread The owner of the the hotel crowd. They have numbers coming out tomorrow as well On Thursday, we have third quarter figures coming out from Amazon This is going to be very much in focus one of the real benefactors of the COVID-19 crisis in that they're an online retail giant And their business was able to continue on Despite all the kind of the upsets and the chaos caused by the pandemic We have fourth quarter numbers coming out from Apple also on Thursday Thursday, that's also a fairly busy day because we have a intrafit decision from both the Bank of Japan and also The European Central Bank speaking of busy busy sessions Thursday is also going to be a day when we have third quarter numbers out from Facebook The tech giant social media giant has obviously performed very well in terms of advertising in the last two years It's managed to get a lot of eyeballs on the screen as it were in terms of its social media app And with that it's managed to successfully drag away advertising revenues revenues from traditional houses and more towards the likes of themselves At the back end of the week, we have an update in terms of Quality of results from both Lloyd's and Nat West Group Nat West Group informally being rollback of Scotland Also, we have UK nor mortgage approval numbers and net consumer credit from out on Thursday On Friday, we have the French and German and Eurozone wide third quarter GDP numbers and also finally we have the US spending number Potatoes, we'll be looking at the at the US spending numbers and go and assessing our Americans going out and actually spending money So that's going to be the real gauge of consumer confidence because sometimes Consumer confidence reports indicates indicates this that the other but ultimately it's not about what you'd say in a survey It's about what you actually do And that that'd be the real kind of asset test for for for the effort is for the for consumption in the US economy For those of you who regularly follow the video I do the Asian run through I'll go to the big indices I'll go to the big currency pairs, and then I go to the big commodities. So starting off with the first 100 The wider view the footsie sold off aggressively because the pandemic February and March rebound of a March into Into June but since then we've been in a fairly clear cut example of a downward trend for while We've seen you have a series of lower lows and lower highs In fact the lows we saw at the back end of last week and Thursday I was the lowest level achieved since May. So we are you know, it is kind of quite worried when you hit a multi-month low So we're still very much in the kind of the wider downward trend of the past few months if we can Hold above the recent lows. We could look at heading back towards this blue line here the fifth at a moving average That comes in the play at 5,948 if you're gonna be on that we could be heading towards the Psychologically important 6,000 and if you take a 6,000 we could be looking at retesting the highs of mid-october in around 6,041 but like I said the wider downward trend is still very much in play So if the market does manage to turn over on itself again And if you do take out the recent lows the lows of last week, which are which are in around 5,000 715 if you do take out that level it could take us back down towards this zone here in a 5,660 and a move below that could take us down towards 5,600 Looking at what's going on over in Germany The tax has been pretty has been hit pretty hard today one of its one of its Stolwurt's SAP the SAP the the software company Basically trimmed its forecast and had a major sell-off and that that has kind of rattled the entire German market today Or at least kind of added to the overall bearishness of the German market and the German market Enjoyed a nice rebound between from the same from March Through to September in fact the highs it achieved in September where the highs it the highest level In a bin at basically since the pandemic really took hold so Under under recently the the tax was in pretty good shape, but since September The highs of late September didn't take out the highs in mid-September We've had a lower low a lower high and now another lower low So we saw how the foot has been in a fairly clear cut downtrend since since June The DAX is appears to be turning over on itself and seeing as we enter this that is low as Has now been the lowest level since early August. We could be looking, you know, it would seem to me that we The DAX is turning over on itself If you do drift lower from here support could be found from this red line here the Trinity moving average Which comes into play at twelve thousand one hundred and twenty six notice how it acted nicely as support Here in late July and if a metric has been important in the past It makes it more likely it'll be of importance in the future Although there are no guarantees if you do drop below the Trinity moving average the next ever to keep on our for will be 12,000 it's gonna be a big number and if you notice here, we did see a bit of support coming to play or just south of it That area in late June Now keep in mind the broader trend is to the upside the broader the bottom move for the last few months has been to the upside So that wider trend does continue if you get out and if you do press on higher from here We could go ahead retest this blue line here the fifth at a moving average which comes to play at twelve thousand 921 if you go beyond that 13,000 will be the next big number to keep an eye out for and should we retake 13,000 keep an eye out then for the highs of mid-october Which are in around thirteen thousand one hundred and ninety one And in the interim the immediate next potential area of resistance could be from the water to move the average Which is it comes to play at twelve thousand seven hundred and sixty two and notice on a few occasions the market It is not perfectly as support because a few occasions it traded below Threaded through the one-day moving average But but more often than not if on a few occasions it traded below it only to close above it yet again So keep an eye out for the one hundred a moving average should we see any rebounds on the decks? Going across the pond to the USA starting off with the Dow Jones We are decent move to the upside between between late March Into September in fact the highs that were achieved in September were the highs basically since the pandemic set in but we didn't retest the old Tom highs but we got reasonably close and Since September we've had a bit of a correction So you've had the lower low the lower high the lower low and the move higher again And the highs that we saw in the middle of October got reasonably close to the high to the multi-month highs that were set in September But they didn't quite get there The market has been drifting a bit lower at least yet again We're pretty much in around this blue line here the 50 moving average which comes into play at 28,045 If you can hold above The 50 moving average or you know, 28,000 the kind of big number itself It's likely that the kind of broader upward trend of the last few months is going to continue And if you press on higher from here We could be looking at retesting the highs of mid-October in around 28,958 and if you go beyond that we could be looking at targeting the highs of early September Which are much which were multi-month highs If you do have a break lower below the fifth of the moving average here this blue line We could be looking at retesting this yellow line the 100 moving average and that comes into play at 27,263 and notice how the 100 moving average acted nicely as support in late September and once again if metric has been of importance in the past It could be significant in the future That was the Dow Jones. Let's take a look at the S&P 500 So when the S&P 500 had enjoyed a solid rally From basically late March onwards the highs it achieved in September We're actually all-time high so it's by far. It's a by far. They are the strongest market of the four major indices I've just looked at so it hit a all-time high in September Then we did pull back with a lower low a lower high a lower low It has been moving higher yet again Excuse me the highs that were achieved Like with the Dow Jones the highs ever achieved in October didn't quite retest the all-time highs But we've drifted lower again from that nicely some active It would be a received nice support from this blue line the 50 movie average in at 4 3410 while we hold above that metric is likely we could see the broader uptrend continue I should that be the case. We could be looking at targeting 3500 a movie on that could reach could head has had his CS headed heading back towards the mid October highs in around 3549 and if you take all that we could be looking at retesting the highs of Early September if you do drop below the 50 moving average this area here in around 3341 my active support and if you go below that Support could commit to play and this yellow line the one-day moving average notice how it acted nicely support Similar to the Dow Jones was it received my support in late September So it could be an air it could be an area of a future support Should we see a move to the downside and that comes in the plan in around? 3306 Take a look now. It's going to the big currency pairs starting off with the euro versus the US dollar The broader trend has been to the upside the highest that euro dollar hit in early September With actually this highest level in over two years So it's clearly quite bullish. And then what do we see? We saw the market trade trade sideways had a move to the downside So, you know, it's not exactly a major surprise to see a correction or a pullback after you've hit a multi-year high But since late September, what have you seen? We've seen a move in of a higher high a higher low and another higher high So it seems that the kind of the broader uptrend in euro dollars continuing in the last few sessions We've been holding above this blue line here the fifth of the moving average in at one spot 17 97 If you can continue to hold above that metric, we could see the kind of broader uptrend continue I should that be the case We could be looking heading up towards the kind of 120 zone just north of 120, which we saw in early September Moving the downside if we do have a decent break below the fifth of the moving average We could be looking at retesting the lows of mid October in around one spot 1684 and a move below that could take us back down toward this area here in at one spot 16 12 And if you do have a decent move below that we could be like heading out towards the one 14 zone But you know that's we would need to see a fairly significant move below the late September low That's your daughter take a look at pound dollar So we talked about how Euro dollar achieved its highest level than over two years in the early September In early September pound dollar hit its highest level in about seven in about nine months If the levels that were achieved here are with the highest since the that it since December 2019 So it's you know over eight month high nearly a nine month high and then what we thought to be see afterwards You know we saw a move at the downside for what we're about being a lower low a lower high and another lower low But since then we've been kind of pushing higher whereby we've had a higher high higher low higher high higher low another higher high in fact only Last Wednesday we hit its highest level in about six weeks. We've retreated a little since then But but if you can hold above the 130 mark It's likely that we could see the kind of broader upward trend of the last few weeks continue Should that be the case? We could be like me heading up towards, you know one spot 32 or for this area here in a one spot 32 69 and if you go beyond that we could then be looking at retesting one spot 35 15 and the last time we saw one third one spot 35 15 was the highs of December 2019 Even if you do drop below one spot 30 This yellow line here the one hundred a movie average in a one spot 28 62 that could act as support because you know we have been We have seen a few occasions In the last few months where that we saw some consolidation in around that area there And that was only in September and also that acted nicely as we saw both support and resistance In in June and July so keep an eye on the one hundred a movie average as well Coming out on two commodities starting off with gold So gold had a Very bullish run from March up until August in August it achieved an all-time high It is very quickly moved lower after that all-time high So we had the the lower low we had the lower high it should its sideways There were a range bound for a number of for a number of weeks for a couple of months Then we had another we had a lower low the lows of September took up the lows of August But since then we've been broadly been pushing higher now It hasn't really made any aggressive move to the upside But we have seen the market push higher the last and basically Since late September in the last few weeks notice how it's made its It's it's failed on To break above the 50 moving average just blue line here in a one spot Sorry 1921 If you do press on higher from here and we retake 1921 We could then be looking at heading it back up toward the highs of mid-September in a 1973 And if you go beyond that we could look in the kind of psychology important 2000 mark and then if you go beyond 2000 we can then be looking at heading up towards We could be heading towards the highs of mid-October so mid-October at mid-August in that 2015 Notice how the fifth movie average acted nicely as support Back in June so and on yet again in September so This could be we could be approaching a fairly significant metric, but the same time It's also possible that we could approach the fifth and moving average and then turn over on ourselves yet again And should that be the case and should we drop back below 1900? We could look headed back down towards this yellow line here the 100 a movie average and that comes into play in it 1883 and a move below that could take us back down towards the lows of late September in at 1848 and the decent break below that Could take us back down towards 1800 Lastly now taking a look at all the oil contract the oil market start looking at a brink crude oil December contract so The you know the moves you see an oil tent often tend to be Connected to the perception about the health of the global economy and global demand so all of them had a major rebound From from April into August the highs it achieved in August where the highest ever to see achieved Basically since March when the kind of pandemic was really at its highest and since then kind of like stock markets We have seen a bit of have to come under pressure You know we've seen the lower low the lower high another lower low the market rebounded In the kind of middle of October, but notice how it failed to get above this blue line here the 50 movie average And it's been partially nudging lower the last few sessions in fact today. It's fell back to a level last scene In the first of in the first since the since early since early October, so we're back now kind of multi-week lows on On brain crude oil if you do press on lower from here We could look retesting the lows of early October in at 38 about 79 And if you go below that we could be like you're heading down toward this area here in around 36 dollars a barrel On the flip side if they're kind of broader upward trend does continue We first need to kind of take out this this blue line here the 50 movie average in at 43 spot on one And if you go beyond that we could be like you're targeting the kind of 44 area And then if you go beyond that because like you're heading up towards the 46 zone and they kind of highs that were achieved in August itself That's all from this video. Thank you for listening. Have a good training week and good luck


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Okay, see where I parked my car? Look how far I have to walk. It's only Tuesday. This is James P. Madonna from the Facebook group. Everything is food It's only Tuesday mid-afternoon, and I'm walking towards La Fortaleza Outstanding Mexican restaurant in Garfield, New Jersey on Midland Avenue and look how far I have to walk Why I'll tell you why because there's no parking spaces in their parking lot and one individual with New York state license plates Actually had the fucking nerve to take up two parking spaces I could have had I could have had a parking space at La Fortaleza Thanks to these people with New York plates now you understand why I am Grouchy and have and get pissed off Now you understand why?  Oh, look at this place bistro 399 Oh interesting Got nice Christmas lights All right Uh From farm to table Bistro 399 from farm to table, but they got a nice parking lot here Bistro 399, you know Anyway, there it is up ahead La Fortaleza The decapitated vandalized luchador is not there any longer They removed it Now why on earth Is there no parking spaces in the lot Mmm smells good. I could smell it now I have a feeling it's because a happy hour with all these alcoholic americans Okay, I'm approaching La Fortaleza.  I don't know what people are screaming at me for Let's see what happens.   All right, let's see if I get a table for one Here on a tuesday afternoon Unbelievable Hi, you have room for one person because I was here sunday and there was nothing Do you want to sit in the bar? It doesn't put me in the back What what happened was is Somebody took up two parking spaces in the parking lot with new york license plates and I had a car. What were we done? Yeah, yeah Oh, what happened? What happened to the poor luchador you had outside somebody? Somebody cut their head off Yeah, there was a statue outside of luchador. Yeah, and they destroyed it. There was no head and then they took it away Okay All right There I am by the tv La Fortaleza McFarn Raven shout out also All right phase one. Okay. I'm starting off With my early bird dinner here at la fortaleza Midland Avenue Garfield, New Jersey with a guarnabana Actually, it's in english. It's soursop a guarnabana margarita. It is happy hour And I'm just waiting for my enchil chicken enchilada verde with the extras sour cream and tomatillo sauce I'm going to start off with the uh guarnabana margarita Okay Got the music videos playing up there I love the the clay native american Cups the vases All right, uh, they told me that the vandalism of the decorations and statues outside is uh It's common. It's it the the decapitation of the luchador statue Was not the first act of vandalism here. It's really a shame How people are destructive nowadays. I bet it I bet it's young people young net guys Well, who knows millennials, you know, it's really a shame that People can't leave A work of art like that alone or something of beauty or or just respect someone else's property, you know It's really a shame Things of beauty that people, you know feel the need to destroy them, you know So anyway, I'm gonna start drinking this Young Okay, it's jane's pigment on of the facebook group everything is food My my food has arrived the chicken enchilada verde with tomatillo sauce and I just put the extra sour cream on top And there are avocados slices of avocado on top of the enchiladas with melted cheese and i'm going to start eating right now refried beans spanish rice and there's my guanabala margarita And it is happy hour here And that's about it. Then I'll go home. Oh so far. That's left of my food. That's what's left. Let's disappear and fast James P. Madonna facebook group everything is food aren't these adorable they're making an excellent christmas tree ornament. What do you think? I Along with ornaments of crampus Okay, i'm leaving now Going home. This is nice Okay, now departing La Fortaleza to go home. I told the the guy a funny story They should take one of those.  I think that'll be hilarious I think that'll be hilarious This place is really good to pizza mania and gelato mania. They have excellent pizza All right, that's about it heading back to the car


I would say that the world is my or the world is a dream, but it's these dualistic ideas that are like the underpinnings that are propping up the whole fabric of the dream. And as long as you have the scrap of duality, dualistic thinking in your mind, then it doesn't seem like a dream. It seems like an actuality, like you're living out a real life in this world. And it seems to be very linear and it seems to be very human. And you have to just go through so much of the turmoil of just the human condition. And my joyful discovery was in seeing that nothing of dualistic thinking was true. So when I started to get into spirituality and philosophy and go deeper and deeper, what I started to discover was that most people would say most of religion is very dualistic, you know, heaven and hell and good and evil and so on and so forth. But what's even more fascinating is when you get into spiritualities and you find out that most spiritualities are dualistic as well, not the perennial wisdom of what we talked about, but most on the planet. And therefore, when you get into the yin and the yang and you get into the masculine and the feminine and you get into all types of even energies and balancing things and so on and so forth, it's all dualistic. There's a lot of spiritualities and a lot of healing modalities that are based on balance. And that has the assumption of two. You can't balance one. The least I've ever been able to. It's like, you know, one hand clapping. How do you balance one? One doesn't need balance. So it would mean that the solution to this whole human-conditioned dilemma, it has to be prior to time. It has to be prior to the present future. It has to be prior to what this quote calls healing of the body. It has to be prior to the chakras. Seven chakras, that's not one. Oneness means one, means one, means one. And you can start to see that most of how I'm gonna say the spirituality of the world are all part of the defense against the experience of pure unification. So that's what's been fun for me in doing these gatherings is, I mean, I was recently in Mexico and the woman picked me up and she was just spewing out like the volcano, the paleo, she was spewing out all of the dualistic concepts. And then when I finally got to speak at the gathering, we went into undoing the mask of the feminine, undoing everything, absolutely, positively everything that has the slightest tinge of duality in it. And her eyes were just real big.  And that to me is what practical spirituality is about. It's about undoing. We talked yesterday, it's about emptying the mind of everything you think you think and think you know. And it's great when you start getting down into spirituality or science, even a lot of quantum physics is hypothesis. You know, they're talking as if they're onto something and they are, but they don't know what they're really onto. So the majority of quantum physics is part of this thing. And all the dualistic thinking does, I mean, one scrap of dualistic thinking will turn the dream into a seeming reality, will turn it in your awareness into you actually think you're a real person and there's real people around you and that there's something really happening in a linear way. And it does not seem like a dream. It seems like those things you were talking about, those patterns that come up, they just repeat, repeat. Physically, psychologically, sickness, pain, suffering, death, you know, the whole thing just seems to be very circular and repetitive and perpetual. And none of it has any validity whatsoever. And that's why I would say as you go much, much deeper than silence is the predominant experience. It's not like anything falls apart or anything breaks apart. Just pure awareness is very, very natural. I would say it's more than natural because it's the state that the mind was actually created in so even a healed world or a unified perception is the closest we come to pure abstract oneness. But healed perception is just the magnificent. But it's more than natural, I would have to say that everything in this world is backwards and upside down. So what seems to be the most difficult, which is forgiveness of this pure absolute awareness is actually the easiest. And to try to maintain this sense of sequencing time, you know, in a linear way, is most difficult. But you don't actually have that experience until it flips. And in the mystical experience, you have it. But then when it seems to flip back, then suddenly everything seems like quicksand again. Like it's sticky, it's slow, it's methodical, and it's like, it's time just seems to drag on like a big heavy load. But not when it flips, when it flips, then this state of mind is the absolute easiest. It's actually laughable. And the other stuff starts to seem laughable too, because you're in the awareness, you're not proceeding that way anymore. You don't have that methodical kind of, we were just talking about that at the break, that's how it seems slow. And in this experience, there's nothing slow to it. Whether we can get you to speak. Okay. So what's also beautiful about it is, is you can take anything in the perception of the world, anything specific at all. And you can, that could be like your starting point to come into that vastness. One time I was driving, my friend Beverly asked me to drive with her, take a ride in her car. And she's going along, driving, and she goes, did you hear that? And I said, what? That sound, did you hear that sound? He said, what sound? She said, did you hear that sound that my car made? And I said, what sound? And she said, then we drove a little further. She said, there it is again, did you hear that? And I said, what sound? She said, that sound, my car, that does not make that sound. That's not a good sound. I know my car, she said. I said, you know your car, she said, I know my car. I drove in my car, in my car, I know how it sounds. And I know how it sounds when it's running good. And that sound, did you hear that sound? And I said, what sound? And she said, that's not a good sound. That's really not, there's something wrong with my car. I think I should make it a mechanic. And that's what we kept driving. Did you hear that sound? See, what sound? So she, we actually did one of my, I know, mind sessions in the car while we were driving. And I took her down in her mind to the point where she began to question her perception of the sound. While we were still driving, she started to really question that she knew what the sound was, that it was just a bad sound. It's a sound cars should not make. She said, I know what cars, how they should sound. And they run. I've done this with mechanics, too, and they go crazy. But, you know, it's good because it's a whole profession.  You would start to see your whole profession could get unraveled if you just carried it in deep enough. And we actually got so deep into the point that I got her down to the point where I said, you actually think that you perceive a problem. And I'm telling you that that's not so. It's absolutely not so that there's a problem. She was convinced that the sound was an indicator of a problem with the car. And while we were in the car for probably an hour and a half, and I was able in that hour and a half to take her down to the point of, are you willing to question your belief that there is actually a problem? Why would God create a problem? Why would divinity, eternal love and oneness, make a problem? Maybe the perception of a problem is a problem, only because you believe it is, not because it's really a problem. Maybe there are actually are no problems. Anybody ever hear watching the wheels from John Lennon? Well, I tell them there's no problems, only solutions. Remember that line he actually says in that song, I tell them there's no problems, only solutions. And so that's what I was doing with her in a very experiential way, was saying, will you come with me? Will you join with me right now and actually come into a state of mind right now? Not kind of hypothetically sometimes, but right now here while we seem to be in the car. And she actually, she had been a student of mine for some years, so she wasn't dismissed as preposterous. She actually joined me. And we actually went all the way down to the point where she, she got the point, we got to the point. And in the point, in the experience of the point, she just burst into laughter and she went, I feel it, I actually feel the experience of it. And she said, do you notice? And I said, notice what? And she said, do you notice that the sound is gone? And I said, what sound?


Estonia plans 600 bunkers to stop Russian invasion in the first hour. On NATO's borders with Russia, front-line states are already preparing for the next war with Moscow. In January, the Defence Ministers of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia agreed to a new plan to build an extensive network of fortifications intended to deter and defeat the kind of Russian incursion long-feared in northeastern Europe. Given their country's 210 miles of border with Russia, much of it considered near-impassable thanks to extensive forests and wetlands, Estonian officials said the government is planning some 600 bunkers they hope will prevent a hypothetical invasion and occupation by Moscow. The war in Ukraine has shown that taking back already conquered territories is extremely difficult and comes at great cost of human lives, time and material resources. Susan Lilevali, the Undersecretary for Defence Readiness at the Estonian Defence Ministry said she spoke about the $64.7 million project during a Thursday briefing with journalists. In addition to equipment, ammunition and manpower, we need physical installations to defend our countries efficiently. Lilevali said the small Baltic states have long been considered the most likely Russian targets should President Vladimir Putin be bold enough to launch an attack on NATO. If successful, Russian units might be expected to overrun the three small nations within days. These installations serve first the purpose of avoiding military conflict in our region as they could potentially change the enemy's calculus. Lilevali said counter-mobility and fortification measures have played a significant role in wars in our region in history, for example in Finland and as the war in Ukraine has demonstrated they are perfectly valid also in this century. She continued the installations should deny the enemy the possibility to advance rapidly in the territory of Baltic countries and in case of military incursions stop the enemy's advance already at our borders.