Hey y'all welcome to this episode of Fort Worth for this episode is going to be all about sports here in Fort Worth and we're here at the game on sports arena that's on the west side of Fort Worth. Trevor Armstrong general manager and owner will be with us as well as Jason Sands with the Fort Worth Sports Commission and Jasmine Henderson y'all you have to see this interview. It was a wonderful speaking with her. She is a former professional soccer player. Now she's a motivational speaker. She also is a soccer coach and she is wonderful. So stick around and watch the rest of us and let's go. Welcome as we kick off this whole episode about sports I'm excited to be here at game on sports complex with Trevor Armstrong who's the owner general manager of game on sports complex and game on sports arena. Welcome Trevor. Thank you. Glad to have you here. This is an exciting venue. As I told you I hadn't been here yet. I've been around it and so excited to be inside of it here but tell everybody a little bit about the complex what you're doing here and how it all got started. Sure. Well the sports complex is actually our second facility. It's our newest and it opened in October of 2016 and we started game on arena sports which is about a mile north of here is an indoor soccer arena and flag football facility and we started with that that opened in 2006 and we began operating it in 2012. So we do a lot at both places. Our footprints clearly grown and our mission really is to bring fantastic facilities to Fort Worth and give every kid the opportunity to excel to their best potential. And learn skills along along the way. Sure. Yeah we our team works incredibly hard and our coaching staff has grown immensely over the years. And we used to primarily just do leagues and we've really expanded into teaching. We start with kids as young as two years old in soccer. Wow. Okay. It's a great sport to start. That's just a massive kids kicking a ball around at that point. It is. I remember my girls doing that at one point. They're like who's doing what. It's fun. My kids have done it as well and but they're learning how to move their bodies and it's a great sport to start to start to put those things together. It's a good foundational sport like we like to call it. But yeah we do we do classes for here basketball, volleyball, there's pickleball lessons. At the other facility we've got like football classes and soccer classes obviously. Right. For adults as well. Okay. All ages. All ages. Let's talk about that a little bit. You hit on the subject of sorts of why athletics is important. Why this interaction that kids have with sports. The skills they develop. Elaborate on that a little bit for our audience. What do kids learn when they go through the program? I think you learn a lot. I think we all as adults look back, well I can speak for myself. Sure. Look back and think of the lessons, a lot of those things. How to lose. How to win. How to work hard when you know if you want to be better. Not everybody gets a ribbon in life right. Everybody gets a gold trophy. There are winners and losers and those sort of lessons. Yes. You know even listening to coaches and learning all those things and it's endless. So yeah and on the health and wellness side too it's getting the kids away from the screens for a bit. It's always important. It's always important. So we want to provide every opportunity for those kids to get out here. I think participation is the number one thing here. Just getting out and participating and learning those skills, learning to act as a team. Maybe in a team sport. Absolutely. Yeah. Great point. Yeah. So yeah lots of values. We love the space that we're in and we're very passionate. Our team is like I said before super passionate about growing participation and finding new ways to keep it fun. We do that through camps and classes and running great competitive leagues and yeah we've got every level. In our leagues we've got, I'll give you one example, in our co-ed soccer leagues we have seven divisions so co-ed over 30. For what sports? What sports? Sorry this is for soccer. Soccer. Okay. Co-ed over 30. So really every level there from folks that played maybe in college to folks that maybe have never played and are interested in learning the game. But I see you've got, we're sitting right here on the basketball courts. I saw the beach volleyball courts you have outside. You talked about pickleball. What other kind of sports do you have leagues for here? Or camps? I mean let's talk about that too. Camps that you have. Sure. We run with our partners so we have a number of, it's not just game on. We are big believers in bringing the whole community together and so we've got basketball select basketball clubs. We've got club volleyball clubs. We're all partners of ours and so they all run their camps in addition to the game on staff running our camps. So all told we've got about 40 camps in the summer that we run. So our summer calendars. Soccer, basketball, are you doing pickleball camps now too since that's so popular? We have a pickleball camp. Okay. We do pickleball tournaments. Pickleball tournaments, okay. We do pick up. A lot of folks bring their friends out and play up here regularly.  Yes, correct. Great. I appreciate you supporting them and supporting that as part of it. Absolutely. One of the questions I'd like to ask and this is a small business. I mean you might be the one but and I've created the small business task force as part of the city. Look at permitting and look at all the things that we do that make it harder for small business to open. What advice would you give to someone that's starting a business and I know this is a business been going for a long period of time but I know you probably still have hiccups and other things is what just in general what are challenges that maybe you've overcome as a small business and how would you address them? That's a good question. I think our industry is very unique. We're not a restaurant or anything like that. So for us really we were able to in the beginning start very small. We moonlighted just being honest. Right. Right. So you had another job but you're trying to set this up at the same time as I would you buy the blind light? Correct. We started with the indoor soccer. We had both my business partner and I both moonlighted and worked nights and weekends and did all that. Boots drafted to make it work. Yeah. And you hear it a lot but truly that first two, three years it's batting down the hatches and prepared to survive through those first three years and if you can do that you learn all those invaluable lessons along that way and it makes you better and stronger and sets you up for the future. Having an idea and believing in it and knowing it can succeed is part of it right? Yeah. That's a big part of it. And we've been very fortunate to have great partners. I do want to cook children's. They are a partner of our multi-sport camp and our go-tikes program which is our two-year-olds as I mentioned before to our four-year-olds so having great partners for those things as well as not being afraid to be inclusive with other folks that you might be able to collaborate with I think that's been vital to our success too. That's wonderful. Well, thank you for what you're doing. Where can people find you if they want to find you? You mentioned a couple places but where can they find you? Online. Yeah. What's that website? It's gameonfw.com. Okay. It's gameonfw.com. Okay. Fort Worth. Okay. Great. And then our beach program, you'll appreciate this, is 817 Beach. Okay. And so they can check out all of our beach volleyball programs there too. Great. Well, thanks for what you're doing. I know you're doing a lot of different things. You serve on the Camp Booth District Board. You've done a lot of different things helping this part of Fort Worth continue to thrive and grow. So, I appreciate that. Thank you for what you do. We're very passionate about Fort Worth and excited to be here. Thank you. Well, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. And now as we continue this episode all about sports in Fort Worth, I think it's great that I have Jason Sands, who's vice president of Visit Fort Worth and executive director of the Fort Worth Sports Commission. Welcome, Jason. Hey, great to be here. Thanks for having me. I, we've been friends for a long time. I love what you're doing of raising the level of sports, just the awareness of what's happening here in Fort Worth. So tell us a little bit about your roles with the two roles that you have and how they work together. Yeah. I'm with Visit Fort Worth. So I had up the sports team for Visit Fort Worth and over the course of the last couple of years when I started, you know, we understood that we're competing against all these cities that have a 10, 20, 30 year head start on us when it comes to creating the infrastructure needed to support these sporting events and to make them successful. So we're looking at cities like Indianapolis and Louisville and Kansas City and Houston. They're all, you know, way down the road when it comes to sports tourism. So one of the things that we decided to do was create the Fort Worth Sports Commission, which is a 501C3 that's a subsidiary of Visit Fort Worth. We've created a board of directors around that group so that way we can have community and corporate leaders involved with everything that we're doing to help elevate the city through the power of sports. We're working with our community partners to showcase all the things that make Fort Worth great, to bring in these great sporting events and to really make an impact in Fort Worth. Yeah. Let's talk about that impact. You already see this World Cup 2026 and how that's coming to the region and how we're going to support that. How, what are the other impacts of the community that you see it's making? Well, when it comes to sporting events, it's not just as simple as booking it and then saying good luck, you know, it's what we say with the sport commission is our mission is to enhance the image, economy and quality of life of the community. So we're going out there and actively trying to secure these events to bring them here. We're going out there and talking about our great venues that we have, the support system that's in place, the airport that we've got that's one of the best in the world, just all the different folks that we have that live here, the residents because they buy tickets and so on. Once we get these events, that's when the real work begins because they need that support to be successful because we can, we can get volunteers. We can roll out the red carpet. We can get great hotels for them. But if when the competition starts and there's nobody in the stands, then it seems like the city doesn't support them. So we've got to go all the way in with these folks. We've got to create marketing plans, help them sell tickets, get volunteers, create a hospitable environment. So welcome signs. Let them know that we're excited to have them here and then work with them every step of the way to make sure their events successful. And if they are successful and there's people in the stands and the athletes have a good experience and all the fans have a great time in Fort Worth, the stockyards are downtown, they're going to want to come back. And that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to have a great first impression. So they're going to want to come back to Fort Worth. Visit and do other things. Absolutely. A little bit, do you know what is the economic impact that we have right now with sports and sports tourism and forward? So when we talk about the image economy and quality of life, so I'll start with the image piece. When we're hosting these high profile events here, a lot of the times they're on television. So in the last couple of years, we've had events that are on Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, like the network, along with ESPN and all the other sports stations. So when you're at home in California or New York, you've never heard of Fort Worth before, and you tune into the first and second rounds of the NCAA, and you see live from Fort Worth, this amazing competition, and you see images of Dickies Arena and the stockyards in our downtown. And then the next weekend, you see the Bassmaster Classic on Fox, and it's the same Dickies Arena, and you start to say, what is Fort Worth? You never heard of it. So that's one of the things that we've dealt with with Fort Worth is people haven't known. So we're trying to get that word out. That number is a little intangible. Yeah, the exposure is really priceless. And we get social media and so on, but the exposure we're bringing nationally, internationally by bringing these high profile events is huge. The economic side, this last year, we hosted about... The folks that we brought in, we're bringing hundreds of thousands of visitors to the market. They're spending about $105 million. We estimated the last year in direct spending in our hotels and our restaurants, supporting our community. And that's great because we have these outside dollars that are coming into our community and being invested. So that's huge for us. And then we're all shopping, hotel, occupancy tax, all these other things, supporting businesses. Spending money in the stockyards, because obviously the stockyards has grown a lot over the course of the last few years, coming out of COVID really. We've got some great momentum coming out of COVID. We were one of the few cities and states that were open for business, and we really capitalized on that opportunity in Fort Worth, with Dickies Arena being brand new. And we were able to bring some high profile sporting events to the community, build some good relationships, show them what our city does to support these events and help them be successful. And they're all coming back and we're riding that wave as much as we can. Fantastic, fantastic. So you and I tangentially have been working on a youth sports complex, me from the council perspective and you from the sports commission and really gathering the data on what that would look like. Let's talk a little bit about that thought process there and what we hope to see in a youth sports complex here in Fort Worth. Yes, it was almost, I started about six years ago and right over the first couple of months, we worked with the city to bring in a consultant just to analyze the facilities we have to offer. And one of the things they came back with is said that you need outdoor youth complexes and they recommended a 20 field soccer complex as you could do like football and lacrosse and other long field activities. So we've been working with the city ever since to try to find, there's a worldwide pandemic in between there. Yes. We're trying to kind of go down this road. That kind of shut down a lot of activities. There's been a lot of sidetracks, but we're on this path and for us what's important is people need to understand the power of sports and the impact it can have on our kids. We've got an obesity issue with kids across the country and one of the ways that we can combat that is to get them active, get them playing sports, get them off the couch, get them off the couch, get them off the streets and show them sports, but if there's nowhere for them to play or if their parents have to drive 30 minutes or 45 minutes to a practice or league games, youth sports has grown so much in the last 20 years but there's a lot of kids that are getting left behind. So one of the things that we're trying to work with the city on is not only just this tourism kind of tournament ready facility, but also working with the parks department in the city to identify how do we invest in this infrastructure for our kids all over the city? Because we have a pretty big city, it's very broad. So how do we kind of give our kids, because again, 85% of the kids in the Fort Worth ISD are free or reduced lunch. So their parents can't afford maybe working a couple of jobs or so on to afford the fees for sports or in the time. It's time to get them around for sure. 100%. So if we can make sports more accessible and we're doing things with the parks department right now with an after school sports program to get to break down those barriers, if we can get more kids access to sport, get more kids playing sports, get them to learn the life lessons that sports can teach them about teamwork and perseverance and the payoff of hard work, all that stuff we can do together, we'll put the city in a great position. Yeah, and I think it just gives all of those kids a different perspective, a different outlook and maybe different opportunities they didn't have before.  You want to elaborate on that? Where are those sessions happening? And what are you teaching? Well, so the after school sports program is something that Dave Lurez The direct community centers. Yeah, well, the concept is to have kids stay after school and then they can participate in what we've done is eight weeks of soccer, eight weeks of basketball and eight weeks of flag football. So one day a week they stay after school and they participate and they do a practice for their soccer and then on the weekend they do like a jamboree style games with their parents at Rolling Hill. So it's very accessible and it's close. We're in five schools right now. We had about 200 kids participate in this kind of pilot program that we're talking about right now. The parks department is really executing that with their staff and their resources. And our goal is to grow that program next year, get more schools, more kids. And again, it's just getting kids active, getting them introduced to a sport that maybe they'd never heard of or never had a chance to play before. And if we have one kid that wants to play basketball or gets that soccer bug and wants to continue on, there's opportunities for them to do that. But we just want to get kids active and work with getting our kids more access to sports. Well, I think that's wonderful. And one of the things we've talked about with this youth sports complex that's been on the table and there should be more information forthcoming soon really is no matter where it's located in the city that there's accessibility. I don't know what that looks like but bringing kids over, getting them there so they can still use those facilities. And that's something I've been also a big proponent of of that no matter where it is located because there's only so much land that we have here in the city to use that we make sure that all parts of the city have access to it in a lot of different ways. You mentioned a little bit earlier some of the programming that we've had but I think you've tracked like 75 events or something last year. Who were some of those organizations and what brought them to Fort Worth? Besides you. Well, it's a team of folks. No, it's a team of folks and we've got a fantastic team or that's one of our strengths both at Visit Fort Worth, the sports team and then the city as a whole because we rely on everybody our hotel partners, our hospitality partners as a whole but we've had some fantastic events. We have the NCAA gymnastics championships for women's that's here. We started it in 2019 and we're hosting all the way through 26 so that event's coming up in April so we've got eight of the best women's gymnastics teams coming to Fort Worth to compete for a national championship and that's televised at ABC. I went last year and saw Simone Biles before. Yes, we've had the USA gymnastics and Simone Biles coming out of the pandemic. We had the national finals rodeo where we had all the ancillary events here. We had the Olympic team trials for USA wrestling which we put together in five weeks based off some COVID issues that they had at some of their other venue. So we've had a lot of great events in. We have the PBR, we've got their world finals out of Vegas and into Fort Worth. They really just loved where the city's going and the brands really aligned together and they're one of the biggest entertainment brands in the country. So for us to be able to work with them. What happens in Vegas doesn't always stay in Vegas. There you go. I love that line, yes. So we're working with them to continue that great relationship. We've got, we just had the women's tennis association. We had some of the best tennis players in the country in the world here in Fort Worth at Dickies Arena that really Dickies Arena helped get that event. So Rocket League World Finals which is esports. Everybody talks about esports but we've really hosted some of the biggest events. We just secured Halo's national championship for next year. So Halo is one of the biggest brands in esports and we're gonna host one of their championships. Where is that being hosted? That'll be at the convention center actually. Yeah, so a little bit different setup but another cool event. And we've also made a lot of ground up with the United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee. So four years ago, five years ago when I got here we didn't have a lot of relationships with those USOPCs but coming out of COVID and our investments with USA Wrestling and USA Table Tennis we've got fantastic relationships with about 15 of them now from Table Tennis to Taekwondo. It's a fencing. We just had 2300 fencers. Youth fencers from all over the country here at the convention center. Would that be part of the Olympic trials then? They might host them here as part of that. The Olympics are coming up quickly in 24. So that's next year. So they're already kind of getting ready to position. We're talking to USA gymnastics about opportunities for next year as well. So a lot of great momentum on the USOPC front and everybody when they come here to Fort Worth they love our downtown, they love the stockyards, they love the hospitality that they encourage here and that they feel and they wanna come back and that's a great thing. We're doing our jobs. All of us. Team effort. Team effort. That's the name of sports for the most part, right? Team effort. Well, if people wanna get more information of what's coming up, where can they find you? Where can they get that information of all the things, all things sports that y'all are involved in? Yeah, if they go to our website FortWareSports.com they can see all the different opportunities there to volunteer. We always need volunteers for events. So that's one way to do it. And we've also got a youth program, a reading program that we're doing. It's called Readers Become Leaders. We do it alongside the NCAA gymnastics championships. In the last four years we've had that program where it's a 10-week program. Kids read, they log their minutes, they compete against other schools. In the last four years we've had 55,000 students read 29 million minutes. Four years is the biggest NCAA community outreach program in their history. This year we had 81 schools participate, over 40,000 kids. That's pretty much 100% usership from our schools. And right now to this point they've already read 38 million minutes. Just in five weeks. So that's another program for if anybody wants to get involved in that, we'd love to have them too. Lots of opportunities. You don't just have to know how to throw a basket or shoot a basketball, right? No, we can find a role. We have a lot of role players on our team. Great, well, Jason, thanks so much. I appreciate all you're doing to highlight this other side of Fort Worth, another aspect that makes our city great. And I appreciate all the work that you're doing and we'll keep soldiering on with everything. No, we appreciate you as well. So I appreciate it. Great to be here. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. And now I'm here with Jasmine Henderson who is a former professional soccer player and now as a motivational speaker and coach. Welcome, Jasmine. Thank you very much for having me. Of course, of course. We just had Jason Sands on this previous segment and talked about youth sports and how important that is. And I think you started playing at a relatively young age. How old were you when you started playing soccer? Yeah, I was five years old and that was my first organized sport as well. So got in very early. Got in very early. And then you played a lot of other sports that sounds like growing up. Absolutely. What else did you play? Yeah, so we grew up in a household where sports were just a thing that you did. So I ended up playing everything from softball to even bowling, basketball, volleyball, soccer and track though ended up being what I played in high school. In high school. But at some point soccer became your thing. Yes. And tell us a little bit about that journey and then playing professionally in Brazil. Absolutely. Well, it was very interesting for me and I think it impacts a lot of the way that I coach nowadays because I like to tell everybody I'm kind of a recovering perfectionist. So if you tell me something to do, I will do it almost to the letter. Yes. And so soccer was the one sport though where I just found a lot of personal freedom. It was one of the sports where it's very creative. There's not really a playbook like you would have in American football or basketball. And so I just had to learn how to risk, make mistakes, get back up, you know, all the intangible things I think that are just really amazing for youth sports in general. And so I... And for kids to learn, right? Yeah, absolutely. Is that life is gonna throw things but you gotta figure out how to get through it. You gotta figure it out. And what I think is great too, especially when it comes to a team sport like that is you learn how to become a follower, you learn how to become a leader, how to use your voice again and how to just get back up and know, okay, if we didn't win this time, what could we do better the next time? And I think that that's really what's helped me as I've shifted into the many lives that I've led, I think, throughout the years. But it just made me so passionate about soccer and I think the way that I like to lead, I think really involves all that community which was really found in soccer. So when I saw the 99 team, the USA team play with Mia Ham and Julie Fowdy, that was so impactful for me and I had this gumption and this instinct that I knew I wanted to make a difference and I thought maybe soccer could be the way that I could do it but it wasn't really until I got invited to play internationally for a tournament, the biggest youth tournament for soccer in Sweden and I was 17 years old. And my eyes were just completely open. It's literally like a mini Olympics and you see country after country, I still get goosebumps right now thinking about it just because everybody's in there, we're coming from all types of background and yet we're playing one sport. And we speak that one same language and I thought, wow, this soccer unites people, that soccer is just such an international language that I just knew from then I was like, okay, how do I do this? Right, and get paid for it. And get paid for it, yeah, yeah. Which is so funny because I look back and I went to a college prep high school actually and we had to do a research paper and they wouldn't let me do it on being a professional soccer player, which was good and hindsight, you know, but. You're already putting together a business plan. Already putting it together. And I think it was just that hope and optimism, like my parents always created an environment where it was like it doesn't matter where you come from, it matters who you are and what goals you have and just to work hard for it. So I think I just went in guns blazing just thinking, nothing's gonna stop me, I'm just gonna figure it out. Figure it out, that's a big part of it. So you grew up in Los Angeles. I did. And so how did you make your way to Fort Worth, Texas? Well, you know, I never was like, yeah, I think I'm gonna move to Fort Worth now. But it was really honestly just how everything started lining up. Again, LA is very international and to all the aspirations and where I was going with the coaching and the playing that I was doing. LA at first just seemed to be the right fit as things were kind of falling together. And then, you know, COVID happened and I LA had been changing for a long time. And even when I had my son and became a mom, I kind of was like, man, do I want to be in LA? You know, my parents did a really great job of creating a very positive bubble for us. But we always kind of felt like a square peg in a round hole to be honest. Just with some of our own just personal values in the way that we were raised in. But we are a lot of my family is actually still in LA. So you kind of stay where your family is. And both my sister and I were both single moms and we just said, you know, I think it's time just for a new adventure. Yeah, a new adventure, a new change. And it was funny though, because when we were choosing Fort Worth and not Dallas or something like that, I was trying to prepare my sister because she hadn't traveled as much as I had.  It's gonna be a little bit of this, that. She goes, well, what are we? I said, girl, we city. I was like, we're a real city. But I was like, I think it's gonna be a great change of pace. And honestly, it didn't take anything, but maybe a weeks that we were here where we were just like, we made the right decisions. Well, we're happy to have you here at Fort Worth and in welcoming. And I'm glad you found a place for yourself. Tell us a day, what's a day like for you as a soccer coach, motivational speaker? What does that look like for you? Yeah, absolutely. So again, just being a mom, a priority, priority number one, yeah, he's 10. Okay, yeah, so that's what I was just about to say. Part of my day is actually homeschool with him, which is really awesome because it gives that flexibility. He was actually able to come with me to France to help set a world record as well. So just really fun stuff to be able to incorporate that. Oh, it was the biggest five aside soccer game ever. So it was literally rolling subs for about four days. Okay, explain that to our audience and to me too. Yeah, no problem. So in a typical soccer game, you have 11 versus 11, 90 minutes. That's it. Okay. In this particular challenge, it was five aside. So five people on one side, so it's a smaller game. And so rolling subs meaning you could play for an hour or like me and all my other crazy ladies, we actually played for eight hours. Eight hours. We played the longest stretch. Wow. During that time. How long did the game last? Total. Total, that's what I'm saying. Four days. Four days. Yeah, four days. So especially because it was during the Women's World Cup, we had like people from all over the world participate in this one world record. Again, just anybody, man, woman, boy, girl who just wanted to support elevating women in sports. Oh, that's amazing. So yeah, so my day starts off, you know, homeschooling him and then which works perfectly because my sister and I tag team and then I go off and I coach and it's really awesome because what I really am finding about in particular in the Fort Worth area too is just really great families and players that are really encouraged with hard work, a great work ethic, a great attitude. So it's been really fun. So I'll go and maybe I'll coach a class at the game on facility or maybe I'll be doing some technical training or coaching my own team with the club, AFC or I'll be doing private lessons. And it's a really awesome way to be able, in my style of coaching, to be able to encourage not only the technical and tactical fundamentals, but then obviously all of that emotional and encouragement, that mindset support that I think a lot of players, especially now, just really, really need and they kind of can get lost sometimes either mentally or emotionally sometimes in the game. And I think sports is such a great way to kind of build that backbone and to have experiences that make you kind of come up against yourself. And so it's just basically going one-to-no versus you every day. So it's great to be able to draw those parallels while I'm coaching. And then so any of the motivational speaking stuff, sometimes coaches will invite me out to speak to their teams or sometimes it's just that one-on-one time where I'm, I spot it because I got it. And I can help walk a player through some of those either perfectionist or achiever tendencies. Well, it's interesting you are highlighting that a little bit because I think we've seen over the last number of years some high-profile athletes that have maybe removed themself because they realized their self-care was more important. If you get into a situation, I would say we find that in every profession, right? But you think about from a professional sports aspect that it can even consume you even more, right? Because you are performing every single time someone looks at you. And so if you don't perform well and we live in this world of when lose, how does that, how do you work someone through those issues? Absolutely, well, and that's, again, that's something that I think I coach a lot because I needed it a lot as a player. And soccer was one of those things where, I mean, you will fail. There's 90 minutes in a game. You will make a mistake. And so a lot of those times it's just helping them pinpoint whatever conversation is going on in their head. Because, and we all know, like- Sometimes it's beating ourselves up, that's the worst part, right? Exactly, especially if you're, and a lot of players that play sports, they have real high-achiever personalities, like I said, perfectionist tendencies. And unfortunately, sometimes their level of achievement is equated with their self-worth, right?  And so as I speak with them, I try to help them become aware of what conversation is happening in their head. So that way we can stop that track and start replacing it with something new. Because like you said, unfortunately, I think even a lot of coaches can get very wrapped up in the achievement of achieving, we've won this medal or we've won this many games. And sometimes that can be, you know, taking a toll on the player themselves and not really stopping- Eroding their self-esteem. Exactly, yeah. Self-esteem or even just checking in on them with whatever it could be going on, maybe sometimes it's their home life. For me, a lot of players definitely play to escape at times. For me, it was never really to escape, like a home life or the community. It was really just to escape myself, to be honest.  Exactly, exactly where it was like the one time I could just be like, shh, and just kind of live in the moment and allow myself, allow those strengths to really come through instead of focusing on the weaknesses. And I think a lot of times, even some of the women that I've spoken to who have also played nationally, professionally, or even collegiately to a high level, really just speaking to them about helping this next generation with vulnerability and not equating that to weakness. And to say, hey, like I don't have to be strong all the time, because that's literally impossible. I kind of liken to, if I have an emotion that comes in and if it feels messy, right? Like if it's whatever, loneliness or discouragement, anything like that, instead of what I used to do is just kind of build up a wall, right? Well, that wave would keep coming, I just build higher. Because I'm not supposed to feel those things, right? Well, and then to your point is I think then we see all these high-profile athletes, they've built it up so much that then it just comes in like a tidal wave, crashes and wrecks everything. And I think it would just be so much more just in a healthy situation. I think for anybody really to really learn that emotion intelligence of, hey, I can feel this emotion, don't let it sit there, but I can let it come in and I can let it go back out. And I think if there was more of that, I think that we would see not only healthier players, but just healthier society that can kind of balance both of those kind of feelings and emotions that are kind of acceptable and also the messy ones. Yeah, it's interesting in a couple of points that at church yesterday, my pastor brought up and we talked about that we are living, we live in these peaks that we think that we're always gonna live in these peaks, but there's also valleys and that's part of life. It's for the idea of failure.  And that leads to a lot of, the father of three daughters, I want them to know you're not gonna be perfect all the time, you're not gonna look like the perfect example on TV and that's okay. Yeah, and it's absolutely okay. And if actually it is so imperative that you have failure to succeed, right? And I think a lot of, what do they say, success? It doesn't look like this, it looks like this, right? It's a mess of, like you said, peaks and valleys and I think something that I've definitely encouraged other players and even in the many peaks that I've experienced, some people would ask, well, how did you get through that valley or how did you just not stop? And I think because of that training in athletics of experiencing those peaks and valleys and I think that those valleys and even the peaks actually sets you up for bigger, higher peaks and for you to endure even lower valleys so that way, no matter what goes on in life, I've pivoted many times in my life and I think that that has a lot to do because of that mindset. And I learned resiliency, right? Yes, exactly, yeah. Interesting, so you do something very involved in gender equality, let's talk about that for just a second. Absolutely. Did you Mount Kilimanjaro, you climbed? Yes, oh my gosh. It's so funny because like I said, my highest aspiration was professional soccer which is a great aspiration, but I don't think I like the me now and the me then, I don't think that the 10 year old me would have been like, yeah, we're gonna set world records, we're gonna climb mountains. But it was just one of those things that just seemed like the next right thing to do. My professional experience in the professional environment was not that professional and I definitely just wanted it to be better for that next generation. I have a son now and one day I'm hoping I have a girl.  And so I got to see that example of athletic femininity in my mom but also got to hear some of the things that she went through, obviously had my own experiences. And so when that opportunity came around, I was just like, wow, like I thought I was gonna be able to make things better by playing professional soccer, but being able to be a part of, I mean, climbing Kilimanjaro, I mean, we had 30 women from 20 plus different countries. And so for all of us to climb this mountain, especially no cell phones, so there's all these conversations that we're having and we're just realizing how many of our experiences we're the same. And so it just really bonded us. Totally different countries. Totally different people. Totally different countries. But I often say we have more in common than we do apart. Yes. The differences. The differences, absolutely. And so I think, at least for me, I think what I really appreciated about the organization Equal Playing Field who helped set, you know, organize these world records was that it was never a men versus women issue. And I think that that's where kind of people kind of get in the tall weeds about issues for me, equality is just, hey, you have just as many strengths to add to the table as I have strengths to add to the table. And I think if we acknowledge that more, like you said, our similarities, our differences, but if we decided to like work together instead of pitting ourselves against each other, we could actually go a lot further. So when I got the call and as long as that wasn't the case, I was like, I am up for it. Even though I was like, I'm an LA girl. I've never climbed a single mountain in my life, but let's do it. Yeah, you're city. You're going out to the country. Super city. I know, going out into the country and literally just climbing. And we basically played in the crater of Mount Kilimanjaro. So it was like, almost like, Yes, 90 minutes. Yes, 90 minutes full, full game. And I'm one of the players that played the full 90 game or full 90 minutes. FIFA rules had official referees and official goals. I mean, it's incredible what they created up there. And the fact that- Was there oxygen? Do you have oxygen? Like, was there- Yeah, so honestly, we didn't know what was gonna happen. We didn't know whether we were gonna just be playing walking soccer. Or even if we, how hard it was gonna be to make it through that 90 minutes. But I can say we were definitely running. I think we just got a little sprinkle of fairy dust. And, but more of just the will of just knowing that we were all inching toward a common goal. And so because of the extreme weather, we did have quarters instead of halves. They did provide oxygen. I took one, like- Breath of it? Breath of that during the very first quarter.  I couldn't do it. It was such a rich wealth of oxygen that I was just like, I can't. I was like, I still have so many minutes to play. I was like, it is, but it was really great though, to obviously, like I said, for all of us working toward one goal together, even though we were playing, you know, of course, both teams, we definitely wanted to win. The score was 0-0. But you could see that both of us, we still were competitive. We wanted to win. But even more so, when the game was over, the final whistle blew, we just knew that we created something unique. Yeah, of greater value.  But it's still something that I look back at, and I can say, wow, like, and I can still share stories. And I can still encourage other women. And there's been plenty of young girls that are like, I want to set world records too, or I want to climb too. And I mean, the truth is, male-female doesn't matter. There's, everybody's climbing a mountain. Everybody's facing something that seems impossible. And it could be a personal battle, or it could be a literal mountain that you're climbing. But I just think that visual and that metaphor of being able to climb a mountain together and to conquer the seemingly unconquerable. Right, right. And then play a little soccer when you get up there. And play some soccer, exactly. And then we, all of us, I think we still all submitted after that, which was crazy, yeah. I mean, it's not that, once you get that high, it's not that much further to go, but you know, like I said, it's just an experience that I'll have with me forever. And not just the game, but really the bonds.  And no matter what distance we're at, we all go back to our separate countries and are doing our stuff to further equality in our own sections, in our own communities. And in our different ways, in our different gifts. But I think there's such a sisterhood of realizing you're not the only one. Right, everybody's climbing this together. Exactly, you're not the only one facing certain challenges, but you're also not the only one fighting for it either. Right, right. Well, oh my gosh, I could talk to you for another three hours, I think. But if I want to leave a couple of tidbits of advice, you've already given Sprinkle throughout this interview. If you're talking to today's youth, thinking about sports, thinking about like next steps, thinking about what their life is gonna look like, what would you tell them? I would just encourage them to whatever sport that they're playing, I think that that's super important to just not give up, not give up in that sport to be able to take, like we were talking about, those peaks and those valleys, and for parents especially, to know that yes, while attaining those high achievements by playing collegially or professionally, that those can be very important goals, that those can be achievable goals. And I would also say that sport is just an important base that no matter who you are, it can really build those intangibles in your life, because I know there's some crazy parents everywhere, but I've definitely ran into some Texas parents and I said, okay, it's another level. And in a great way, because we all want the best for our kids, but I think sometimes we miss all those intangible things that no matter whether they go on to play at a high level at their sport or not, if we allow sport to do what it does best, which is teach us how to win, how to lose, how to make friends, how to lead, how to follow, all those different things, if we really can focus on, are you having fun? Are you giving 10 out of 10? Those are the things that they're gonna take with them forever and that is gonna help our next generation just really lead. So I'm excited to be in Texas because- We're excited to have you. I'm excited to have you here for work. Exactly and I'm excited for potentially all of my international friends that can head this way and continue to make a difference around the world. That's awesome. Thanks, Jasmine. Thanks for being here. Thank you so much. Hey y'all, I hope you enjoyed this episode of Fort Worth Forward. It was fun getting out here at a game on sports complex on the west side. I hope you enjoyed all the interviews and learned as much as I did about all the great things happening with sports here in Fort Worth.  Let's go.


Live from Miami Beach, Florida, extracting the signal from the noise. It's theCUBE, covering .NEXT conference, brought to you by Nutanix. Now your host, Stu Miniman. Welcome back to SiliconANGLE TVs, live continuous coverage from the Nutanix .NEXT conference here at the Fountain Blue Hotel in Miami. Second day, just had Dr. Condoleezza Rice giving a keynote to an audience of, it's almost a thousand people here at the show talking about geopolitics and the state of security, and it's only appropriate that my first guest for the morning, we're going to talk about the changing state of IT, of networking and security. We've got Alan Cohen, who's the CCO from Alumeo, and we've got JR Rivers, who's the co-founder and CEO of Cumulus Networks. Gentlemen, both cube alums, really appreciate you coming here and joining us for the segment. Thanks for having us this morning. Yeah, fine, look forward to it.  When I look at the ecosystem that's at this show, it's not just like, oh yeah, hey, we sent some people to have a booth and have a presence, it's big platinum sponsors putting some dough in to be part of this change, and people instrumental in starting some other companies that are helping to try change IT. Maybe JR, start with you, what brings you and Cumulus to this event? Right, so I have a history and a legacy with reasonably large vendors to customers in the IT space, and what you recognize in that context is it's really, really hard to provide reasonably innovative and broad brush solutions to customers because reality is just too much in-fighting. Everybody's worried about their own issues and concerns and revenue streams. It's hard to do anything thoughtful or broad, whereas if you look at the modern ecosystem that's forming around IT, it's very much a loosely coupled, peer and partner-driven ecosystem where you can work with a company like Lumio on a certain customer base, and maybe there's a slightly different solution than different customer base wants, and it's okay. And we all recognize that this is what's going on. That's what's really exciting to me. I mean, I agree with JR, so from my perspective is we're going through a replatforming of the IT stack, of which I think Nutanix has done a great job of becoming a leading proponent for the change from the last generation of client-server architecture, more of this distributed computing, and funding coming out of the keynote. I think the reason why JR and I and other folks are here today is that we have overlapping interests and making these solutions come together for customers and while they are loosely coupled, and when you get to the customer, they actually have to work together and they have to solve the same challenges, so I think that's why you're here to see more of this. Yeah, so thanks, Alan. You're bringing in some of the words of Dr. Rice talking about that overlap of interest, saying that it's not about fighting over who gets what piece of pie. I mean, we've been talking for a couple of decades on, you need to get over the, I win, you lose. It needs to be partnerships, the advice we always give IT today is you need to find somebody that can be your partner on this journey of transformation.  You were in the keynote. Well, I mean, obviously we agree with Dr. Rice, I mean, and then from my, from Loomio's point of view, we live it every day. First of all, the war's already started. We're not coming to a war in cyber. There is an IP war that's been gone on for a long time. Now it has a national security implication. It's interesting if you look at something like the founding of West Point, the first discipline that was taught at West Point was civil engineering. And if I think when you look at where we're going to see our next generation of national, first of all, nothing ever goes away. If you look the next generation of national security, information security is going to probably, information technology is going to be the core technology platform that runs through our military institution. So I think it's not a surprise that you're going to see more conversation and participation between government and private industry folks like us on cybersecurity. But honestly, every day people are fighting this war in the enterprise customer base, everywhere. It's kind of pervasive and do a little bit of research and go back and figure out what happened right around Christmas, this past Christmas time.  But they brought down one of the most pervasive gaming platforms for three days. And it ends up in the end, it wasn't about, did we have the bad firewall, did we have a bad, whatever it was, their application didn't have the premise, wasn't written with the premise of somebody might come after us and try and take us offline. Companies like Google and others have been dealing with this for a long time, as Alan pointed out. Enterprises in general I think are a bit immature because they think of perimeter security as the way that they're going to solve these problems as opposed to applications whose first stopping point is aware of what you expect and you have application gateways and you distribute security throughout your system. And I think you're going to see a lot more of that coming into play, framework for people to build on that, customers becoming aware of those constructs as they deploy their IT systems. I mean, if I could jump on that, and thanks to JR, because actually he was delivering. I'm sorry, man. No, it's good, I missed it, you picked it up, I think it's great. But it's, you know, when people create applications, right, so one of the things I think that Newtonics guys have been talking about that making infrastructure invisible and putting applications at the front of how you think about your technology. To JR's point, things like security are going to go into the DevOps cycle, right?  That model is broken, gone, and you know, in five or 10 years it's going to be over. So you're going to start with the application and the user as the front and all those other elements that are playing security built into it.  You know, he did, he's done okay on the second one, but you know, you guys help great software that can run on lots of hardware. Can I trust hardware from China? Can I trust hardware that could have something baked in by some national security person?  Where's the trust there? Well, it's interesting because the trust can be layered, but inevitably when you buy an appliance, a piece of hardware with all the operating software that's built into it and you can't change it out, there's a reasonably high probability that whoever developed it could insert a security, you know, intrusion device. They have complete control and they have no requirement to reveal to the world what's going on inside that platform. When you have a piece of hardware that's open, like a server you might buy from Dell, people put hypervisors, applications on top of that, so they have a reasonable amount of control. As you pointed out, you have a BIOS, you have BMCs, there's other ways you might be able to sneak yourself in and I think what happens over time is more and more of that gets peeled away so that it can be replaced by customers with high security risk. Cumulus Networks, our networking stack is built off of open source technology and what's fantastic about it is it allows customers visibilities to what's going inside of there. Everything can be traced back, the code is available, it can be dipped against what's accepted and understood, so customers have a traceability all the way back to source, which is fantastic. Most customers don't want to compile from source, they just want to be able to use this stuff. This is not their top thing, but they can trace back, there's an audit trail. Super, super important. Yeah, Alan, yeah, I'm sure you have some position on open source and you know. Well look, open source is a way of life, right? I mean, we have an open source society, right? That's what Dr. Rice was talking about, but we still manage to keep our country secure so you actually have to live in it. Maybe just to build a little on JR's point, the traditional data center security was built around a choke point firewall, everything went in and everything went out. The threat environment now is shifted, the things actually happen in the interior of the data center or the interior of the public cloud and spread out. So from a security model, as JR said, you're going to need checks and balances at every stage. In our world, from a Lumeo's point of view, is every workload, every computing process actually now needs to be inspected and protected, right?  So if something happens on a piece of hardware that's bad, you want to see it right away, as opposed to waiting until it leaves your data center and goes to the firewall. In most of these hacking incidents that we've seen in the large retailers and the electronics companies, the malware was able to run for weeks and months before anybody caught it. That meant the window, the attack surface was very broad and number one and number two, the window for exfiltration was very long. So the shift's going to be that you're going to have be able to inspect things all of the time and in real time and that should help in some part kind of ameliorate when something bad happens that you can take action right away as opposed to waiting months later when somebody finally tried to pull something outside the firewall. Yeah, you know, you bring up a really good point. We're going to have Alex Colby from CoreOS on a little bit and one of the principles that they do, which I want to get your viewpoint on is, you know, when I install something, it should just upgrade. You know, I shouldn't have to patch it. Just like Chrome, it's like what version am I and I'm on the latest and that then therefore pushes the security fixes and therefore I should be more secure. We think that IT, you know, should, you know, get to that model much more, but there's always some trade-offs of course. Is it going to break something in my environment and, you know, do I need to do testing or can I be, you know, more modern on that? Maybe JR, you know, the networking space, you know, boy, I used to install a switch and I'd leave it sitting there on the same code for years. Set it and forget it.  There's always this kind of classical trade-off. You know, when we've developed our networking stack and in fairness, a lot of the modern, you know, products in this space, you have the ability to patch the OS. So when there's a security, you know, risk or security opening that's been recognized in the open source community or any community, whatever, you can go through, get the fix, put the patch, make it available on the website. That's interestingly enough in the world that we live in. It's like a four-hour problem nowadays, which is fantastic. The downside is that there was some period in time where that opening existed in customers' environments. So the ability to get that patch, put it on, is pretty high. The downside or the thing to consider inevitably when you look at infrastructure is that when you upgrade Chrome, Chrome will take itself down, upgrade itself, bring itself back up and reopen your web pages. Pretty straightforward exercise. When you look at infrastructure devices, it's not quite as simple. You know, if you have a networking device like the world we live in, you know, there's traffic that's being pushed around and if the upgrade takes three or four minutes, then what are you going to take yourself offline where that's going on? And what you recognize is technologies like Chrome or any other operating system type upgrade, they literally kill themselves. They disable, they shut down other applications.  They don't try and do this in sort of a hitless upgrade cycle because that's typically pretty dangerous and fraught with peril. I mean, from a security point of view, our perspective is that security has to be adaptive in real time. It's a little bit different. One of the reasons we built Elumio, not integrated into the infrastructure is two reasons. One is that whether the infrastructure is up or down, your security has to keep running and if it sees an incident in real time, it needs to be adaptive. And the second one is you're not going to own your infrastructure everywhere, so you might be building a data center on top of Nutanix and JR is providing the networking stack for that and it's great, but then you have some of your workload sitting in AWS or Azure, you got to be able to cross those infrastructure boundaries. Putting it obviously, in this case, infrastructure really becomes much more invisible, but you have to adapt in real time. And what we do is we instrument the native security capabilities that are in the operating systems.  We're not an agent, right? And you know, it's because that's a bad word, right? But it's actually, you have to use your computing technology and as it's running in real time to be able to deal with the security threats. So, you know, you're from storage background and you guys, and this is from our point of view, your database needs to be stream, not batch, from a security point of view. You can't wait to push upgrades, you actually have to deal with things real time. So I think you're going to see the concept of stream, just like you see DevOps and continuous delivery and application, the infrastructure, the security and the rest of the stack is going to also move to more of this stream environment in real time. So, a big announcement this week was the Acropolis hypervisor and really the ability, you know, down the road that Nutanix says we can really give you flexibility in the multi-hypervisor, even multi-cloud world. So if I'm on VM, I might be able to want to go to containers, I might want to do something in Azure or AWS. You know, what's the impact on your guys' world on that? I'll take this one first. We're actually indifferent. We run across all of these platforms. That's the vendor answer, right? Actually, the truth is that, and I think this what's going on this is we're going through this re-platforming as people are finding much more efficient ways to run their compute. To me, the Acropolis announcement suggests that if you're building your security or you're part of your computing stack around a single infrastructure, meaning like a hypervisor, so you're just building it around ESX, you're tying yourself to that and the world's going to be a lot more fluid. What I think the Acropolis announcement did is it took that decision out. So it's not, I'm going to do this and I can't do it. It's like, pick whatever one you want. We're actually going to abstract that and make it simpler. So I actually love that announcement. To me, the hypervisor is kind of like the new Ethernet switch, right? And it's like, it prevarves a really important function. He's actually a new Ethernet switch. I know, I get it. Right, yeah. So, but it's like, it's really like an Ethernet switch. It's not this great control point. I do everything around it. And by allowing it to do what it's supposed to do and do it well and removing all that kind of gorpy control plane overhead and all those other functions, they're actually going to make, I think they're going to make a lot of the computing a lot more efficient and they're going to make it a lot less painful for the users.  I think it's a great announcement. Yeah, I'm with you, Alan. When you look at infrastructure, it doesn't have to be contained. You don't have to own it in all cases. In some cases, you want to maybe take it off site, use hybrid cloud. In some cases, you might have a workload that works better in an ESX environment or maybe better in a KVM environment. And trying to tie yourself all the layers and assume that it's kind of homogeneous as a flawed model going forward in the new IT buildup. So I think it's fantastic being able to provision hardware platforms to leverage all of the hypervisor layers, the storage layers, and then the applications live on top of them.  What happens if the new enterprise stack is not a stack? It's not a hierarchical construct, which is what the traditional vendors fight over, like how much of that hierarchy they can own and monetize. Once of it to JR's point is a much more loosely coupled, distributed computing stack where I plug in capabilities from who I think is the best partner for the workload or the application that I'm trying to run. So we're going to go from hierarchical to distributed. So to bring it back to Dr. Rice, she's talking about a post hierarchical order that's built on overlapping interests and people are going to mash together and work together on certain things and others will work with somebody else. That's what the computing stack's going to look like. And I think things like Acropolis are going to start to become the gateway drug for allowing that to happen. Yeah, no, we absolutely, we've been talking more about its platforms with extensibility. I mean, you take AWS, you know, we interviewed it there. So when you actually did your launch there, AWS might be a bit controlling and they're tough to partner with, but boy, they are standard out there in the industry. Nutanix is looking to see how they can connect and partner with that. So anybody that thinks they're going to own the whole stack is really fooling themselves because things are changing too fast and to innovate, you need communities, you need ecosystems and open sources playing a big part of that. So. I think this is organizational dynamic that becomes pretty apparent in that by having recently small groups that go out and attack certain pieces of the stack, you know, they're called the broken down or decomposed stack, you're able to get really great solutions that then can live self-contained by themselves, fit in with the other players in this space. Whereas if you have one company trying to deliver the whole thing, suit the nuts, it's almost an impossible task. And you know what, it's funny, we had that company, it was called IBM, right?  Given the diversity of applications, workloads, devices, customer uses, it's a myth that somebody's going to recompose the stack and own it. And I think the large companies or even small companies that think they're going to do it, they're going to lose. Yeah. I love, my CTO, David Floyer, was watching some of what we're doing and he said, for vendors, when you fill out an RFP or customers, when you build an RFP, he said, have you ever provided in any government the ability to compromise security? Yeah, but we answered that question out loud, it's going to be our IP, right? So I don't think I'm going to answer, it's up to you JR. Yeah, I guess the last piece I want to kind of fill out the discussion with is this big discussion about changing applications. For so long, we've had really infrastructure has been the boat anchor to prevent us from changing our applications. I think back, David Floyer educated me, he worked at IBM many years ago and when you built a database, you knew what infrastructure was there, so when you would, how many processes you could run, what expected wait time you have, your infrastructure was the limit and today you talk about more distributed, cloud native applications, if you will. There's that change, where does that discussion fit in for Nutanix and for you? Well, what's happened, physical infrastructure has gotten to the point now where it's no longer bottlenecked. I've been in IT for quite some time and they're very, very early days. Taking a server and trying to load down an ethernet was next to impossible, you need 10 or 20 to load down a 10 megabit ethernet. Now you can buy a modern server and pump 40 gig, almost 100 gig out of it without a big problem. So, capacity starts to solve a lot of the world's evils. So as you increase compute capacity, increase bandwidth capacity, you allow the applications to interact with each other in a way that they're not, they don't have to know the infrastructure because there's no fundamental infrastructure limit.  So, when you look forward, I think it's just only going to continue. You know, you have 10 gig and 40 gig on the ethernet side, you're going to get to 25 and 100, you're going to get to 100 and 400, same thing's true in the context of flash. You're looking at flash, latencies, and capacities that are blowing through the roof. You're making it so that you don't have to worry about your infrastructure. It allows you to simplify the physical part of it. You have transit through the world that's phenomenally fast these days. People are building massive wide kind of WAN backbones, whether it's an AWS or a Google or Apple or any of the carriers. So, you're starting to see infrastructure, physical limits not being important, and what becomes important is, what can the application scale out to and how well do they do it? You know, I'll ask the question a little different. So, I'm a big JR Rivers fanboy, right? And I remember reading an interview with JR Rivers a couple of years ago, and it was somebody describing, the first time JR reached over to their laptop, they were configuring a cumulus switch, and he showed them bash, right? And I remember where it was, it was years ago. And if you think- I think it was a wired interview. It might have been a wired interview. Yeah, and if you think about it, the concept that I would bash over to my networking stack versus CLI, so I think we're going through a rapid modernization program from developers outward into the computing infrastructure, and so the big change is going to be, so yeah, all that capacity is going to be there, all that bandwidth, I mean, Amazon's going to provide you fairly infinite temporal workload if you need it, if you're that, or Nutanix is going to just scale your data center from the inside out. The question is going to be, is how does your application life cycle change in that world from the first time a developer starts to set up an app and they spin up a virtual machine and they start to write those first couple of lines of code against it, and then how does it pervade through? I think it's going to be a lot more streamlines. It's going to be much more API-centric, right? We're starting to see now IPOs of API security companies, right? So the API is actually the new, probably one of the new battlegrounds. So I mean, we're moving kind of to an application in developers' world and from guys like us who've been in the infrastructure world 25 years, like if you're not there to serve them, you're going to be the rear dog in that dog's leg. So I think it's going to change dramatically. So we're getting the hook. I want to give you guys the last word. Tell us kind of, you experience at the show, conversations you're having, give some people some flavor of the first dot next. Yeah, I think Nutanix has done a fantastic job. It's a very customer-centric show. You know, we're running into customers here. I hear them, excuse me, I hear them talking about their challenges, how they're getting past it, how they're building into the new world. And so it's less about, in my view, selling to them, but just listening to what they're talking about. So I love the show. I hope they continue the theme and the spirit around it. I mean, my closing to this, like, dear Raj and the whole team here, they should be incredibly proud of what they've built in a very short period of time. This is not, I mean, this is the beginning of a movement, right? This is not like a ham. This is, I've got some better box or something like we've traditionally seen in the industry. This is going to be about a different approach to computing. And, you know, my suspicion, there's 800 or 1,000 people here. Five years from now, there's going to be 10,000 people at this event. And, you know, it's thrilling to be at one of the early ones with a customer base that absolutely loves what they're doing. And the second thought is like, this is a platform company. We're all kind of participating in that platform with them. So it's just going to get wider and it's going to get bigger. So it's very exciting. All right, I wish we had a little bit of time to go into some of the Wall Street angles, being a startup and what's happening there. Some stuff going on in the Wall Street Journal and, but people will hit you up on Twitter, I'm sure, read some of the stuff that, you know, you're both writing online, but Alan and Jay, I really appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to come here. Great conversation. Always great when we catch up with you. No cube. Thanks for having me. Thanks so much. At least the Kraken and the, you know, Rocket Turtle. Rocket Turtle. Rocket Turtle, yeah, exactly. So we'll be right back. Lots more coverage here from Nutanix.NEXT Conference in Miami. Thanks for watching. We'll be right back.


Hey, I'm Anfa. I'm an electronic music producer and sound designer, but I only use open-source software and Linux and This video I'm going to show you how you can take a sound effect that you like How you can analyze its features and then recreate something similar with a synthesizer This could apply to many different sounds in this example today. I'm going to synthesize a sound of a Bullet shell casing bouncing off the ground but this could also work for bells or other metallic sounds it is very fitting for metallic sounds But we're going to analyze the sounds to find specific partials that is metallic resonances that we're going to Dial in to recreate the sound Let's get to it All right, so the first thing is you need to find your reference. I was looking for a sound of a bouncing shell casing on the free sound and Well, I found exactly that bouncing shell casings very sizes This sound is licensed under creative commons zero So I could use it if I wanted to and I didn't even have to credit the author so it's always appreciated but I've downloaded the sound and Picked a specific part that I really like let me play it to you So you can hear there's actually two things going on one thing is do we have this very nice sound of a brass shell hitting the ground? But there's also something else which we don't like Something like a plasticky Impact sound So I want to cut that off because it's going to confuse our analysis Let's listen to this Okay, maybe we could analyze just this part So I'm going to right-click Select the name of the region and go spectral analysis and What we have here is the overall Spectrum of this selected region So what we see here is that there's pretty much nothing below 500 Hertz and Then we have a peak at 1.5 kilohertz another peak at 4.4 All bit of stuff going on here And then we have a bunch of peaks at almost 10 kilohertz so 9.8 kilohertz a little less But still a lot of 13.2 15.6 and a bit of peaks at 20 kilohertz almost 20 kilohertz so This is the information we need to recreate the tone of the sound the spectral makeup This is that a cross-section of our sound and I'm going to use this reference To synthesize a tone that will sound like this. So I have a synthesizer here vitalium Let's open it up. I have it wrote it to my keyboard so that I can play it and Right now it plays a default sort of wave So because tuning of these partials are going to be extremely important I am going to now disable key tracking for this oscillator, so I'm going to go to advanced and Uncheck note track this means It doesn't matter what key I press the oscillator will always play the same pitch No, I'm going to also normalize this by pressing alt and free All right, so we need a spectrum analyzer as well to like see what we're doing and There's a couple of spectrum analyzers in the vitalium itself. We can click here and Have a spectrum analyzer But it doesn't tell us what the frequencies we're hovering over are we can also look in here But again, this is pretty minimalistic and of course we can like We can tell what's going on by looking at the slides and this is going to be a hundred Hertz a thousand Hertz 10,000 Hertz and 20,000 Hertz here So we could find our way in here It's going to be a bit difficult because this is not too big So I am going to open another plug in which is going to be our analyzer I think I'm going to make the window of vitalium smaller So we can fit it all in one screen and just have our reference had our synthesizer and have our analyzer So I'm going to open our plug-in. I don't want to do that Okay, a plug-in I often use is called high red Sam, which is I believe it means high resolution spectrum analyzer something and Apart from this face in the corner, which I can't get rid of It's a really nice plug-in Also apart from the file that I can't resize it just like I would Okay, I'm gonna I can actually clip this a little bit because we're not going to need as much stuff So now what we want to do is match the spectrum on the top with the spectrum on the bottom Simple, right This is what we're starting with all right Okay, so my idea is we can use the wavetable oscillator because it has we can edit the harmonics content So if I right-click here and press clear we can insert individual partials Actually harmonics because this is a harmonic series But if we play this note low enough our harmonics are actually gonna reach the stage where they're Like so close together. You can't really tell they're a harmonic series So they will sound like in harmonic partials and with this way we can like mimic what we have here So I'm gonna close this and I'm gonna shift this oscillator all the way down to negative 48 And now you can see what we're playing our our basic Tone is somewhere around 20 Hertz, which is like, you know below At the limit of human hearing and all the other stuff is here. I'm gonna Clear and I'm gonna put one and see where it is Okay, that's around 1.4 kilohertz what we need we need 1.56. That's pretty close.  Okay. No, no, not exactly. It's just close enough So this is one thing Yeah, and okay 1.1 point six can be can be okay You can see there is a little bit of harmonic distortion right here. These partials are Not something I intentionally put here, but they are a result of aliasing probably We could get rid of that if we go to advance and up the oversampling Unless that's going to freeze the entire thing or crash Arder in which case you would be better off not doing that All right, turning on oversampling then and well Let's try this again, so All right Didn't help didn't help either. What if we enable higher as wavetable? No, okay So this a little bit of distortion is gonna keep stay there. So we have one Partial, okay, this is not not tall high enough. I'm gonna also clear the face faces Put another one here and see 1.4.6 1. Okay, we need 1.5.4. Let's try this one 1.5.5 That's good enough. Okay another one is 4 4 4 so 444 Okay, that's too low I Am going to zoom out this series. Let's see. Oh We have We have some aliasing Okay, this is kind of I think the wavetable resolution is breaking Down at this point. I think we need to Play this a little higher Okay, two octaves higher. Let's try it. Let's try it again. So start with 1.5. This is free. So no kind in the middle Yep 1.5 Then 4.8 That is 9.3. So that's going to be almost good for this thing Yeah, good enough 4.4 and a half.  You can also add a bunch of there Just paint some Draw some sound in there All right, and then this 13. Oh, that's a 14. Okay, and then 16 close enough and 20 Yeah, kind of You can also insert a little bit of Stuff here and there. Okay, that's kind of like our spectrum Now this is just like the the basic tone. So what we need to do is turn this into a patch So I'm going to hide this these analyzers and I'm going to make our Synthesizer larger Because now we need to figure out how to actually turn this into a Plausible sound because this is like the raw harmonic makeup of the sound and not the sound itself Okay, so what do we need? Trying to use a low pass How about high pass? Okay Now first thing the sound we're making clearly decays and Also, I think that our sounds let me use another analyzer plug in wolf spectrum It's funny. It seems like the high frequencies are like staying longer So low frequencies are decaying and the high frequencies are staying longer and we can also emulate that with this Just by altering our wave table. We have one first state of our wave table. We can have another state of our wave table where I lowered the low frequencies The high frequencies a little bit too, but we leave the Like the the most important tone in there. So now Okay, all right. So Let's take a look at the amplitude envelope. The first thing is it's it has sustained. We don't want sustained This has to be a percussive sound All right, second thing we have a little bit of attack by default. Let's turn this into zero Okay, we can also change this phase randomization to zero So that we have a very consistent transient You can hear there's a little click now But with randomization, sometimes there is this click sometimes there isn't And this way our hits are going to be consistent, which is going to be easier Let's also move to the first frame of our waveform Second thing this sound is obviously too long We can make this decay shaped a little bit differently And another thing we want to change the position of the wave table along with this thing So I'm going to drag this up here And you can see that it's the wrong way. We actually want to Make this wave table start in the low position and Go to the high position Later, okay, but it's decaying a bit too fast. I I Would like to make this slower, but I don't want to alter this wave table. So I'm going to go to the matrix Modulation matrix. Yeah, and you see we have our assignment here envelope one is driving oscillator one wave frame and Here is the morph thing so we can bend This Envelopes function that's going to actually be influencing it. So now we have a little bit more of That of that low frequencies we can also switch back and Mute this to see what it makes Okay Now I think we need a percussive click because there's obviously a click in here and also I think we have a very prominent Harmonic here, which should not be as prominent or maybe it's a different one This one. Yep That's better. So also, let's have a little bit of noise and I want to use another envelope Or actually, no, we can use the same one. Let's drag it into level I want to have a little bit of white noise just in the very start of the sound So I'm going to make the level all the way down and have this envelope trigger it But this is way too long So I'm going to go to modulation matrix again and use this thing in the opposite direction To squeeze this envelope so that it It's even shorter, right? So our our morph function here is Bending this envelope down. So there's very little So there's very little body to it. Well, I can hear the effect of that Actually, we could have a little bit of noise residue And I'd also like to use a filter for this noise. So it's enable filter one. I'm going to Root sampler to it disable oscillator one don't want to root it to filter And I'm going to make this a high pass Maybe distort it there is like I think there is a tiny bit of something like this lower frequency tone that is There on the very beginning Okay, I think what we can do next is like try to maybe um Sprinkle some stuff on top of the sound to shape it better. So we could add a little bit of reverb to it Remove lows. Maybe let's make it all wet remove size make size small timers level Okay, so that's very Disable chorus. Oh nice. We have this tiny tiny Resonance, okay Let's see what compressor will do Oh Something we don't want which is uh make it all sustained We could also try and play a little bit with Something like a phaser, but in a static mode. So Disable depth or set depth to zero. So it's not moving So this is like adding additional peaks frequency peaks to our to our sound We can also try a calm filter Maybe let's put it after this thing Now right now it's low pass What you could also do is use this envelope to affect that frequency So that we remove the low frequencies even more. Oh, I like that. That's pretty nice What if we make this oscillator quieter can also play with tuning and we have a cue Which we can use to like apply some final frequency balance tweaks And we can also see our spectrum in here Cool thing about this shell filter is that we can do something like this Nice. We're boosting this little harmonic there What else can we do? I mean we can use this shell filter as another peak Okay, I think not At least not to such a degree without with Okay, is this close to our Reference reference not at all might it's way too long. That's for sure So I'm going to reduce the decay sound Decay time And also the frequency of our harmonic is wrong If we could pause it, that would be fantastic Or actually I can just uh sustain this Whoa, okay Ah, so this is 1.5 1.5. Okay 4.4. What is this 4.6 Could this be the difference 200 hertz in there that makes it sound so different Let's try I'm going to open up this editor and find that Particle partial. Sorry. I think it's this one So we have Okay, 4.4 on 4.4.  It's like between one pixel. Okay, so you see I've clicked my cursor and oh Okay, it shows 4.4 with this vertical line Cool. Now I can see what this is. I'm going to zoom in a little bit Oh, I think I hit it Wow. All right. Let's listen again I think it is a little bit closer, but still not perfect So this is 4.4 and this is 4.0. It's still 4.6. I think I moved the wrong partial.  No, it was it was the one. Okay Like I just didn't move it enough 4.45. Now that should be similar. Okay 10 10.0 is pretty much 10 kilohertz. Is this 10 kilohertz? No, it's 9. Something. That's a problem then Uh, what is this? That's more like it and this 13 It's pretty much okay 15.6 15.2 Okay, the problem is our second Frame is going to now be different I could enter another one here And just do what we did there Instead delete this one. I'll also do this All right, let's remove sustain Still very different All right, I think um, it's going to do for HOFO And there's way too much reverb now. I can hear it I think we could enable velocity tracking And now maybe make this all thing a little louder I don't think there is an easy way to make it all louder.  Uh, that's too fast. I'm going to stretch this time stretch this Still too short Okay, I think this is not long enough And this is too short. So we have like The change in length to wrap it Alrighty, so that is our synthesized Shell casing Impact this is by no means perfect But I wanted to demonstrate to you this idea of analyzing a sound I'm checking out its harmonic makeup its frequency content And trying to reproduce that with a synthesizer to achieve a similar sound and It works more or less. I'm going to actually show you a shell casing sound I made before using exactly this method And this is the one So you can see or hear it's a bit different than this one we have I also based it on a different sample. I think it which one did I use as a reference? Maybe one overly long a little bit lower sound. I don't know But yeah um Of course, this takes a lot of skill and a lot of practice, but you can still get some interesting results and Well, if I tried I've tried before to make this sound by ear And it didn't work at all And when I actually refined a reference sound Loaded it up and Used spectrum analysis to reference what the What the partials what the frequency peaks in the original sound are where they are and Also used as the spectrum analyzer to make sure I am putting this frequency peaks where I need to put them then the sound Well became actually usable And I can play it to you in context actually because this was a sound I made for a little game I'm working on with a friend And if you watched my recent live stream, you may have seen us Playing the game And I'm worth making some other sound effects for the game on the live stream. So Let me quickly start a game And I'm gonna play this sound to you along along with other sounds we've made during the live stream The game sound didn't record at that time. So I'm re-recording this gameplay for you Oh, and you can check out this game at github.com slash anapha slash liblast And if you know Godot and want to help out make this uh More fun to play online then feel free to do so Shameless plug So that's it Thanks for watching I hope this video was interesting and I've given you some ideas for how you can make sounds with synthesizers And also, maybe I've shown you some interesting things you didn't know about vitalium Which is a super powerful wavetable synthesizer Uh, it's an open source version of vital vital source code was released But the community has made like a fork And we named it to vitalium to avoid any confusion And I'm using this fork because I'm all about free and open source software. Yeah, so thanks for watching If you have any questions or suggestions for future videos, please leave them in the comment section below Also, if you would like to learn more about How to use Linux for music production or gets help with some issues you're having Please join my community chat at chat.unfund.xyz And there's a bunch of very helpful people there Who are sharing ideas and helping each other out? And we're having a great time in there Also, I want to thank all the people who are supporting my work financially These are people on patreon and liberapay And I would like to encourage you if you find my videos helpful to consider joining them Yeah, that's all for today Now go and make some sound effects Yay We made it Just a few software crashes along the way, but we made it


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So guys, I am back with another Cyberpunk 2077 video today guys I bring you some cool how to get back into the Compeky Plaza post 2.0 So if you already passed this point and you miss getting a new iconic of the knee hand or if you missed the previous Iconics out in here because it's free and told as a congo There's this Atari katana which goes toe-to-toe with a knee hand and there's also the knee hand which was added with 2.0 today guys I'll show you how to get back into the tower to go grab these things How's it going guys? My name is dpj and if you do enjoy the video Living a like really helps out and if you like what you see and want to see more be sure to subscribe Also, it's very important to mention if you originally Looted or granddad avasaka after your son killed him when you come back here I think his body will be empty But the only way for you to really know this is to do it and find out for yourselves Also credit to crane games for this one and me without him I would not know how to do this so this is the real one his channel will be found link down below in the video description Do check him out and show him some lovely posts from great cyberpunk guides, okay? So you need to come to this faster point right here guys. So where I'm out on a map is Top left Watson our Saka waterfront this way want to come to This point right here. If you let me show you what it is. It's California and Pershing that's where we want to come to Okay, so from here guys, just pull out your car any car you can do this with it doesn't really I've seen some people I'm really saying it don't work any kind of to use a specific car Trust me don't you can use any car to do this So I'm just gonna use this one my hood My candle up tribute car, I probably switch my camera as well. I know people hate watching and Driving games in first person. I love playing first person, but hey for the sake of the video So just want to drive along here guys and see on your right hand side You got this like bluey greeny turquoise a wall. Do you want to come to the very end? So about There I'll be careful when you jump out because the car will get you. Let's see if I've got time. I've got time I've got time Yeah, just about so you want to jump on your car guys and you want to use your car to get over this wall Just like so Now guys just want to jump down here and jump over here and just like so now we are back in to the area So now guys just want to run around this corner Just keep coming people Keep me around So you can also get the con girl pistol, which I like the satori katana Which I absolutely love and that goes tall. That's like the perfect combination using the melee build with the new hand They work together beautifully.  This is the trickiest part of the whole guide The whole thing. This is the trickiest part. So we want to park your car as close to this gate as you possibly can now this is um An old glitch But now it's seemingly now because when you used to do this you used to clip through the wall Clip through that gate now the gate opens, which is bizarre But hey, it's like the new people are going to do this. I just thought you know what we're just going to make the The gate open.  So in the middle I mean, it's hard to do this Because the cars just don't stop moving probably try and use a yeah a well an xbox is best the handbrake So probably a little further back. But what you got to do guys is The car needs to be slightly To the right as you can see I'm not perfectly in line if you do this wrong You're going to get out the right hand side of the car. You want to get out the left hand side of the car This is the problem. Now it works, but it's a little tricky, but you will eventually get it down So you do that you stand next to it and you'll see that gate will open Simple as that the gate is open. You can see the angle the cars at That's more or less where you want to be people are getting too close to the gate. I think Hey, that's what you want to do. So once you're in here guys Let's come around This corner while keep coming over here first Come around this corner and go into this lift Don't worry about the cameras Adam smash it ain't coming for you or not in my game anyway So up here guys you want to go up here you want to go But what you guys thinking about cyberpunk now? I mean to me the game is so good I mean, I liked it from day one if you followed me from The day one at cyberpunk. I mean, you'll always know that I love the game I know yes, it buggy releasing the bad state especially on pc But I always loved it the story If in cabal it now if this game was to release now It would be one of the best games I've ever made. I'm telling you.  I need to turn off my motion blur and the film going So step across this exit sign. I just want to click okay on it.  I'm just going to skip time again guys. That's horrible Probably let's try midnight past midnight. Let's see if that works See if that helps Yeah, that's much better.  We are back in the penthouse. So just come around here guys Come through the door And you'll see The body is there for you to loot Simple as that now if you looted this previously, I believe This will not be here for you Now what I will say is as well guys if you missed it when you first played the game There is a piece of kakakongo, which is sitting right there I didn't miss that, but I did miss the katana Uh, so we want to run up here guys I can only do this once t-bug starts to Well, you know at the end of the heist mission t-bug You look kind of like lose connection with her But before she does that she opens the door down there for you to get out But if you don't do that and you come up here guys and grab these one here And you come up here guys you can go to the helipad and you can grab This Atari, which is a katana which goes toe in toe with The knee hand So I'm just gonna grab that there should be a helicopter here normally um But obviously because it's we're coming back the helicopter's not here, but you uh unique is still there They can take a look at them guys so Where are they Let's have a look So there's the katana the satari And you can see right there it mentions the knee hand I forgot to the knee hand you see right there guys it mentions the satari these two go toe in toe Together I don't think I got the pistol on me could be my stash Yeah, I think it is but yeah evil way guys there is a pistol here for you to go up to Now you want to get back out Because if you just jump down you're gonna die so you gotta basically go the way you came in So that's what we're gonna do. I run you through it. It's quite easy But hey, they can go and explore this building if you want to I mean there's nothing really stopping I don't know if you can go out that way um, but you can Get definitely get into the building via other ways 100 you can so you want to come back down this way I'm gonna walk along here I'm gonna drop down here Be careful Drop down again Drop down again I mean we basically go into following the The way we come in It's the way we're getting out Simple as that so be careful here guys because this is where you can't fall and die They can go down there as well if you want if you want to Whoo, I almost fell out then. Yeah, you can go down there if you want to I mean that's probably another video But yeah, I think this is an east egg down there. I think there may be I think there may be an east egg down there Don't quote me on that though Oh, I'm just gonna completely pass it. So you want to come through this window here drop that down drop down Go back out the doors and you want to go to that lift Just like so Get out of your cameras So lobby is where we want to go to guys This is where we want to go to So eventually you will Land in a lobby you'll arrive at the lobby and you're basically just going out the way you came in It's quite easy to be honest. There's actually many routes out of here But just want to make sure you guys don't get trapped in here because that would be Hilarious.  Okay, so we are out.  I mean, it's really that simple guys and there we have it Uh, yeah For another one if you enjoyed the video leaving a like really helps out if you like what you see and want to see more Be sure to subscribe and hopefully guys I will see you on that next one