endas. Welcome to Traffie TV, it's the premier league show. You haven't done it for a while. For obvious reasons. But we're back, we're gonna be back doing it again. One of the obvious reasons... Just wasn't happy. One thought of that. Everton continually sliding down a butt now. We will, we're gonna beat, big break. Look at every minute. Big break boys. Big break boys. Let's begin at the top end ish off the table so we don't have the focus The break for the top four is quite interesting at the moment. There are a number of things in the league. The break for the league is Man City Liverpool flying Chelsea in the middle which is better than the rest. There is also the top four which has got quite a few teams at United Arsenal West on Trotnam all involved in that. ac mae'n gyflawnio chi'n gwleidio. Gwyl ymgyrch yn anodol gyda'r ffordd, ac mae'n gwleidio gwaith o gweithio, ac mae'n 50-12 a 14 oed, ac mae'n gweithio i'r gwneud o'r ffordd i gael bethau yn y cwrdd yn y cwrdd. Mae'n eich gweithio i'ch gweithio i'r hyffordd hynny. Ac mae'n ei ddif Weiniddo i'r gwbl. a lwn i'r Arsenal, i'r United, i'r Westam. Dylai dron y last fan standen. I'n trokin' o bob dat, a'n trokin' barat a Arsenal ac i'n amwtch cwedd o deisio. So let's have a look what they said. When you look at the Arsenal team and you look at those teams around, Manchester United should not be doing what we're doing at the moment. It's a disgrace where we are considering the players that we have in our squad. Spurs with the manager that they have and the gold scorers that they have, you'd expect them to not be losing four out of their last five games. And then when you look at Arsenal, our tet has been questioned for a lot, finished eighth twice.  They've let go, they're captain and their biggest goal scorer. And somehow they're doing it, even when Jack is still in midfield. So yes, I think Arsenal deserve credit and our tet deserves credit, been massively helped by one game a week and other teams around and tossing it in. So I think you're right. Yes, what they're chatting about, obviously. All of the teams, but Arsenal, you want to see more in that video, by the way, or the whole video, the link is in the description, go over what's it, the last fan standing on Bethfitters YouTube channel. Arsenal, we will come on to, they didn't play, obviously they should have been playing Liverpool at the weekend, but because of the Carabao Cup, they didn't play them. But. You know, let's talk about Arsenal before we go back to the pitch. Our tet, your confidence, these buildings, they're all shut in there, they're obviously swapped, you know, Patrick Abam, he hangs the latest one, to go out the door, he seems to be doing that flip of getting rid of those kind of players. They're having a good season, they're all being amazing, they're having like a solid, you know, winning, a lot of games, beating teams, they should be beating. And I've got themselves right into the mix. And I've got games in hand, of course, as well. You know, they are, Arsenal are two points behind United, they occupy four, but they've got three games in hand. So, they're doing, they're in. But the funny thing is, if you look at the table, if Arsenal win their game in hand, I know it's against Liverpool, but the two points behind Chelsea, never mind Manchester United, you know, Chelsea with 50 points at the moment, and they've got games in hand on all those other teams. But Arsenal were a game in hand on them. So, to only be two points behind Chelsea, I think that shows you how far they've come this season. I think out of all those teams that we're trying to get in the top four, for me Arsenal are very much the ones who are building something. I look at the other teams and I feel like they are still scratching around for something or other. Or just, you know, you look at the West Ham's and the Tottenham's of the world, and both sort of, not in there by accident, but I'd have, to any West Ham, I'd have a really good season, punching above the weight, obviously. And Tottenham, again, it just feels like it, you know, they're relying on maybe a couple of players rather than the whole team. With Arsenal, I feel like Arsenal are actually building towards something and understanding the path they're on, and they've got with the players, and they're bringing very young players in. So, I think, you know, Arsenal will be looking at it, thinking their aim may not have been top four this season, but certainly now I just think you look at them and think they're definitely better than other teams in terms of the direction that they're heading in. I don't know whether that'll get them top four, but certainly, certainly, you've got a factor all that in, I think. You've got a tough run in as well, Arsenal play a lot of the teams up directly in the show. You see that, but they have got the games in hand, and they could, like you just said, you know, win the game in hand, and you had three points behind Chelsea, but they could put themselves in a good position, certainly on West Ham United by winning those games.  Do you not think, though, what he's frustrated at was, he's just had a window, and he probably didn't get the players that he visualised he was going to get, or who he asked for?  No, but that thing, that thing. There's more in your moment of the same thing. For all we know, though, he will have been promised things, and if he doesn't... Like he said himself, when they got beat up there in the last week, he said, essentially, he said, managers have failed here, and they've left, but it's still the same set of players, and we say the same thing about it. It is ultimately, isn't it? It is ultimately the same set of players, and what he's saying there is, I need new players. Now, he did get a couple, obviously, he did get a couple, but he probably thinks when he looks at that table, if you'd give me the tools I wanted, I could have easily have got your fourth place this season. I think that's where maybe the frustration comes from. I don't know whether that's right. I've got a couple of games in hand in Manchester United, and if they were to win those games in hand, they would be above them, but obviously they've got to win those games in hand. So, obviously, they're in a rebuild, in the midst of a rebuild, or are trying to start a rebuild, and, as I said, I don't think that's quite where Arsenal are, because Arsenal has gone past that stage, I think, and are gaining momentum with now with a set of players. They're obviously still a centre forward light, but it's certainly interesting. It's certainly interesting. Well, Spears won four-nil at Leeds, though it's a cooler Zebski coming, of course, in January, with the Bentecau, Harry Kane and Sean making it a four-nil victory. It's a good way to bounce back from the Bernley defeat. Did I remember when I got knocked out by a free cup? There you go. Leeds, that four-nil defeat cost Martial O Bielshae his job. They've just been far too open, haven't they? Leeds, goals, four-nil, six against Liverpool, four against United, three at Everton, three at Biller. He can't let that amount of goals in and expect to survive, can you, there, as a manager. Now, ultimately, I think they've been done by... I wouldn't want to call it tactical naivety, because he's a very experienced manager, but I think what he's done is he's tried to... He only knows one way to play. He's lost a lot of plays through injuries. His most important plays are sent. Calvin Phillips is a huge important player. You could imagine people will come calling for him in the summer. He's lost Patrick Bamford. He scored a lot of goals last season for him. There were other injuries during the season, but those two have been out for a lot of the time. If you're out your best players and you're still trying to play the same way, and the drop-off is what I don't have seen this season, the drop-off is huge. And they're just, man, it's open, you look at the goal difference. It's ridiculous. 31 is not a goal difference. That's an extra point, isn't it? That's an extra point if it comes down to goal difference. You're not clawing that back, are you? 12 games to go, you're on clawing that back. Obviously Jesse Marsh is going in there, and he's obviously new to the Premier League. We had a couple of seasons at Leipzig, gone through the Red Bull system. It'll be interesting to see how he faces, whether he tries to just shut up, shop or face. Do you think they're good enough to do that? I really don't know, because I've only ever seen them play one style under Bielsa. It's hard, because it takes time on the training pitch to do that. And they are very much in it, let's be honest, they're very much in the mix. So he's going to have to get an interesting thing. Obviously if he gets those players back, and he looks at a couple of other plays and thinks how can I maybe change things with you, then they go to Leicester. After a weekend Leicester had just had a great minute. Burnley, they're on 30 points now. I think they'd be safe. I think they beat Leicester shorted last year. So I think they go far, they back now, he scored against Burnley in the week show. But a tough one for Leicester, to try to get that result at the weekend, and a tough opening game for you as your manager. Friday night, Sheldamtson, they were on a fantastic run, at the moment particularly at home, they beat Norwich 2-0 standard victory for Sheldamtson, really, Chay Adams with a goal. In the first half of the year, putting it beyond doubt in the second half. Sheldamtson, 27 attempts at goal to Norwich 8. But they're on a great run, Andy, when he lost one home game all season. Very, very organised team. Very, very organised. Sitting 90. I don't see them finishing any higher than that. No. But that would be a really good finish for them. Considering when they lost to Danny Ings at the beginning of the season, a lot of people thought, and best of God, a lot of people thought that was going to be it. But they turned it around brilliantly, brought some good signings in. Loan and young plays, and they're very well organised football team. And it'll be interesting to see how long they actually keep all the day manager. Because I do think a few people will look at him and think that he could... Give him some resources. I think he's a very organised, pragmatic manager who gets the best out of players. So it'll be interesting to see how long he's at home. Therefore, Norwich, obviously. Bottom of the league. Minus 40 goal difference. Yeah, I think maybe now Norwich... Listen, I don't know for sure, it's a strange season, you almost feel like Norwich have had their little run. And it'll be interesting to see how many wins they get. Obviously you've got the new manager bounce, had a few wins recently, but... They've got a huge game at the weekend. They're at home to Brentford. Who were in the mix. To be fair, yeah. I mean, they win that. If they won that, they give themselves. I'm not saying they're not casted if by any means. Never have been this season, that's been the thing. They've never been. Because there's so many... You go up to 14, then you're cast on 25 points. For this stage of the season, that's still very, very old. Well, that's it. Well, talking to Newcastle, I went to Brentford and won 2-0. Brentford had a man's centre off after the silver, after 11 minutes. First, when I was seeing the challenge, I thought it was a foul on him. And when you see it again, it's a nasty one. Just jumps and leaves his leg straight on the lad's leg. And he's really shocked and challenged. A definite red car for Brentford. And then Joel didn't pop up with it, had it and go with it. And Willie put it beyond my lovely finish as well. And they've just continued that. They're on a great one out there on Newcastle. Confidence is there. They've got a little steely resilience about them at the moment. It's enabled them to just grind out results and a really good result for them there. Like you said, lifted them up to 14th. The entertain Brighton at home at the weekend. They're fancy, though. They're still fancy. Brighton will fancy it as well, because they find them playing away better than playing at home at the moment. It'll be an interesting moment. They've done really well in Newcastle. Brentford, the one where you would look. If we weren't in the midst of it and panicking, and you were looking at it, you'd look at Brentford and go, I think they're in real trouble, because they're syncing with Arastona. They had a losing game, home games, Tony's not scoring goals. And all the fantastic bit of this game was obviously Christian Edwards making his return. It was brilliant and great to see. You just wonder if they're going to have that thing of enough goals in them. You look at them and think where they are in the league. They just seem to be losing game after game now. Minus 17, so they're not. They seem like leads with minus 31, and Wofford minus 22, not as minus 40. So they're not conceding tons and tons and tons of goals. They're not scoring goals, are they? They're not scoring goals, are they? I'm sure they had something like 19 points or 20 points. In the first part of the season, you were thinking, we are like this. They're certainly struggling. The teams around them have got games in hand as well. So you've got to win those games in hand. I mean, I haven't, I've got three games in hand on them. That's three points behind them. Things like that, that might be their undoing. Palace and Burnley threw one-one. Burnley and other team have got some results of late. They followed up the win against Spares with a good point. A Palace went behind. Definitely slop got an own goal from Milhoavitch. Got them a decent point. They've played since then, unless they've beat them at home. 3-0, which is kind of put the brakes on them. But they've done, considering they've won one game in the first part, and they look dead and buried. They've had that done that badly thing again. Having them just grinding results out again. They're now up to 21 points and 25 games. You know, they're a win-off. They've got two games in hand on Brentford. Gaming hand on Leeds. You know, they're only four points behind Newcastle. So they, and I think they play each other at the end of the season as well. So they might be, you know, you don't know what that is. Gaming hand on Leeds, they win that, they're above Leeds. So that's what these teams have to look at, isn't it? From now is, you know, we might be, look all depression right now, but if you can just claw people in, they do have Chelsea at home in the next game, another home game they're playing on, which is a really, obviously a really tough game. Probably one of the toughest home games you can have, isn't it, really? But Crystal Palace, nil dder an, they, you know, they were in, I don't say they were in trouble, but they were getting clawed back into it, and they went to Wofford on 1-4 one last midweek, and they added a point, like I said, to be with Burnley at the weekend. I've got themselves, I think, into a position now where every, where in every third game, there's something like that, the fine I did there on, what, 30 points as well from 27 games. Mang United nil, Wofford nil, United absolutely battered Wofford in this one, but... Great point for Wofford. Brilliant point, you know, United 22 attempt to go Wofford 10, 67 percent, two on target for Wofford three for United. Um... They dropped some points, Mang United, though talking about that software, they've had opportunities at home, trial fans, they've had trial fans in the home, Wofford at home, and their fans would have been going six points there, and they've struck two from it. And that's kind of being the thing, that's undone them at times this season, isn't it? Yeah, they're, they're a, they're a very, they're not a very good team. They're a team of individuals, and obviously... Got lots of great individuals, but... But they just don't click together. They've lost. When Aldo looks, he's been playing up front, and there's no, they're not playing on the counter attack, there's a lot of crosses coming into the box. It's... It seems, um... It seems a bit of a mess there at the moment. You know, he did get the win last week. No, no, I just, I just look at them over all, and it's crazy because they are in fourth place, but I suppose they demonstrate how open that all is. You know, they've got 47 points on 27 games. They're only, they are only three points behind Chelsea, but at the same time, they're just, they're a very strange team, because you never, ever look at them and go, they were brilliant in this game, or brilliant in that game. They just about get by, you know, and they've got to go play, but they're not a good team. And there's no real through line, there's no through line, there's no real, you wouldn't say, oh, they play this way, or they play that way. They've just got good players, really good players. Do you think there are any things in the health on them? Not that. It's anything to do with Ralph Rangier, because I think he's sad, but... I just think... Yeah, because there are Fred saying, interim managers weird and stuff.  They need a good old school sort of patient in charge, and we just, you know, put them in the place. And I imagine having a guy who's not who's only, like, the content manager, you won't be here in a few months, my thigh will, you won't. That's not the way to do things. I don't think... What about Wafford at the other end 19 points? No, it's a good point. It's an interest, you know, it's an interest because they went to Vilec, and they got three points. They got four points out of Vilec, Crystal Palace and Manchester United. And that, you know, if you'd said to them before and they'd get that, they probably would have bit your hand off for it. So away from home, they're obviously getting them behind the ball and trying to play on the counter. It's that different at home, of course. But with obviously with the new manager, they've got because because there are still seven teams, I'd say, any, then they've still they're not out of it because you're talking one win could have been a huge difference at one win. So they're not out of it, and obviously they've got something in by Hodgson who's got the experience of getting out of it. Absolutely. But now a really good point for them. Brighton, they'll feel it, they'll ever start to be a little bit worried on 27 points before this one. We're not having great form, but I've gone to Brighton and won a 2-0, two good goals actually, Matty Cash with the first one, Ollie Watkins with the well taken. Second, which has got them 30 points now so for them, they'll breathe a little bit easier and they're now only three points behind Brighton who are having a great start of the season and having been started losing lately. He's only won seven games all season, filler of one nine. Everton who had a terrible season and Brentford have both won six so Brighton have won a game more than them so weird isn't it? Brighton are weird aren't they? In this game, 67% of the board, 12 shots of filler's nine. They've not got a striker, as simple as that. They've not got a striker who can score goals and that's what it comes down to. They don't score goals, enough goals anyway. But they could still win a couple of games and it'll be the highest ever finish so. The highest finish under Pottershire and they obviously at the top of the table man city when they've got a 4-tubers win at Gouldershire to put them six points at the Liverpool gaming on to keep that title race burning. On Sunday, another team who was in the midst of it is for the top fours West Ham and they beat Wolves who've been on a great big win that. Wolves I think are still in the race of the top four but when you look at it they're on the same spares they're in the race for it then Wolves are on the two points. They're still very much in the race for top four or Europe so this was a big win for West Ham it's on the shooter who hasn't obviously hit the highs he did last season scored the goal but a typical moist kind of win you know Wolves that's 61% of the bottom and 14 shots of West Ham's 13 four on target for the hammers one for Wolves and that tells the story Hwang the team missed the great chance at Nillnow should have scored should have hit the target at least. But West Ham are still very much in the you know they're in the I think it's the top eight is the teams who are going to get Europe so you know depending where the FA Cup goes of course you could go down to seven but I do think it's I do think it's that you know the top two top three will be the top three I imagine but it will become down to you know Wolves will be in there one of them will miss out it's still very interesting who that team will be Wolves won't be writing themselves off but for West Ham this is a huge win you know what they've got 11 games left and I'm 45 points well it's gone to sixth now isn't it it's well it is sixth right now but obviously it could seven could be the conference could be the conference so I think it will be you know one of the top eight as it stands will be on look here Southampton are five points behind Wolves I don't see them making that ground up and no one behind them I think will make that ground up so it's going to be one of them so that's why this was such an important win for West Ham we've been second half the season have spluttered a little bit Antonio stops going on the goals they've had to dig in Jared Bowens filled the gap a little bit but it's typical moist it's moisty it's moisty it's interesting that Wolves haven't stopped very interesting that Wolves have everything to play for so there you go let us know what you think in the comments section below who will get off for who will get that place and who's going down let us know and don't forget to check out that Beth Victor video with the lads on it a full 20 minute video so some good discussions on it link is in the description so make sure you check that out give the video a thumbs up subscribe if you haven't and if you want more videos including daily live videos join us on pace and the link is also in the description see you later


We heard that within the scope of cyber security AI can be viewed in two different ways. AI in the hands of cyber attackers and AI in the hands of cyber defenders. I will present a third view. Hackers fooling AI systems, a domain known as adversarial AI. Due to the increase in the use of machine learning algorithms in cyber security solution, hackers realize that they too should adopt to AI. Today hackers are using machine learning algorithms to find loopholes in other machine learning-based system. By doing so, they have started an AI arms race. Fooling AI system is not very hard. After all, we are not talking about real human intelligence, but merely a computation on intelligence. In particular, machine learning algorithms realize on past data and assume that future data share it characteristics. Hackers abuse this assumption by manipulating the training data. For example, spam detection system are trained on past email that were manually labeled to either spam or not. Machine learning can generalize from these examples and automatically classify future cases. Obviously, the more training data it has, the more accurate it becomes. Spam detection system are trained to look for incriminating content by analyzing the email text. To avoid detection, spammer can off-escape their content. For example, by deliberately misspelling certain suspicious words. To the machine, the revised email looks like a non-spam email. Actually, adversarial AI can be applied to other domains as well, for example, machine vision system. If the following check is analyzed by handwriting recognition system, the total amount will be expected probably correctly. However, by adding some adversarial noise, for example, in the digit 9, we can fool the system and make it think it is the digit 8. Let's look into a concrete cybersecurity example. Many AI-based cyber-solution are analyzing the sequences of system calls in order to characterize an application. The sequence consists of requests issued by an application toward the operating system. Recurrent UI network can be used to analyze these sequences and decide if the inspected application is malicious or not. This kind of cybersecurity solution can be compromised using two-step attack. First, we train a surrogate model by querying the existing model. In particular, we synthesize fake cases, send them to the current model, and then use their classification in order to train our own surrogate model. Once the surrogate model is obtained, we can take an existing malicious code and gradually modify it. After each modification, we check if the modified code can still be detected by the surrogate model. The process continues until the modified code is misclassified as benign. This kind of attack is considered to be a black box attack because it requires no prior knowledge about the security model, adding then the ability to query it as a black box, meaning creating an input and getting the classification as an output. Most black box attacks relies on a concept known as transferability. This mean examples that were crafted against one model will probably be effective against other models as well. This transferability property will hold even if the other models are trained using different architecture or even different algorithms. But multiple classifier system can be used as a countermeasure to adversarial attacks. Instead of training a single model, we train multiple models and aggregate their prediction. It's much harder to bypass such a system since more than one model should be evaded in order to make the entire ensemble ineffective. I'm going to now focus on the common type of attack known as evasion attack in which an attacker tries to evade a detection system. In poisoning attack, the hacker tries to actually abuse the fact that many machine learning algorithms are retrained on data that have been collected during their operation. In this scenario, the hacker inject carefully crafted examples in order to continue the training set. Even an hacker can flaw the system with extreme cases. As a result, the learning process will be overwhelmed and the entire system will be compromised. The AI community has focused until now on making AI models accurate. However, in the meantime, they have left these models vulnerable to adversarial attacks representing a concrete threat to AI safety. So my message today is that practitioners should make AI models resilient to adversarial attacks before embedding this technology in the real physical world. Thank you.


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Hi, everyone. Hi, Jan. What is that instrument in back of you? The chum? Nice. Do you play? The chum plays, not me. Oh, cool. Nice. Is that a violin behind you? It is a violin. It's a violin behind me. My son plays. Oh, nice. I play the guitar, which is, oh, it's on my bed. I was like, where is it? Because I was just playing. That's what it was. Maybe it went outside. Yeah, I should go outside and play and make some money. I live outside. I live right near the park. So I could make some extra cash. Oh, I'm sorry, but this isn't about money. This is Watch Me Work. This is Watch Me Work, everybody. We're here. It's Friday. This is, we've been doing this two weeks in a row. I'm going to give the blurb. So this is Watch Me Work. I'm Susan White Parks. We've been doing this show for 11 years. Not like this, though. We've been doing it mostly in the lobby, live in the lobby of the public theater in New York City, where every week, usually on Mondays at 5, I sit down with a whole bunch of artists, and we talk about their work and their creative process. And the public theater has been a great supporter for 11 years of this show. And recently, a couple of years ago, HowlRound joined us to livestream, help us livestream. And they are working together HowlRound and the public theater to bring this incarnation of Watch Me Work to you and to me and help us keep it going. Now we're doing it five days a week because we are hardcore. And when the going gets tough and when you have to stay inside, what else are we going to do but get our work done? So we're here. Lots of thanks to HowlRound and the public theater. So what we do in this, oh, yeah. So what we do in this, this is a show. It's a show. It's a show where we create the action together by working together for 20 minutes. I'm sorry I'm looking around because I was playing the guitar and I left my timer on my bed. But we create the action together by working together. And then we create the dialogue together by you all asking me questions about your creative process. OK, so we use the time at Watch Me Work to help you get your work done to help you ask me questions about your creative process. We say that this show is just like Shakespeare in the park, except it's not Shakespeare and it's not in the park. But it is free. And it's open to all who are interested in participating. So what else do we do? Well, one thing we won't be doing is we won't be asking you to read from the work that you've been working on and me giving you specific feedback on your work. This is more about talking about your artistic process, not your artistic product. And while Audrey helps tell us what else we need to know, I'm going to run and get my timer. Go Audrey. Hi, everybody. Happy Friday. It's wonderful to see all of your faces. So sorry, my partners also want to call him at the same time, so you might hear him as well. But the way that you can ask questions is that if you are in the Zoom, you can click on the Participant button. And there's a button that says raise your hand in that tab.  And I'll let you know when it unmute you when it's time to speak. If you are watching on HowlRound.tv, you can tweet at us at atwatchmeworkslpe hashtag HowlRound, which is H-O-W-L-R-O-U-N-D. And you can also tweet at us at the public theater, Instagram, and Twitter channels. And that's about it. All right. OK, got my timer. And we will begin. And then we will get on to the questions. OK, so I'm going to start my timer. OK, ready? And OK. All right. We finished the work part, or not the work part. Yeah, we did finish the work part. Now we're going to do the talky part or the dialogue part. Did the action. Now we're going to do the dialogue. Anybody with any questions about your work or your creative process? Yep, we've got Zach with a question. Zach with a question. Hello, can you hear me? Yes. Great. Thank you. My name is Zach Avery. I'm a student at Aquinas College in Grand Rapids, Michigan. And I'm studying theater for social change. With my interest in writing and directing, I've made it my job to explore as many opportunities as I can in order to grow as a writer. So workshops like these are always really helpful. So thank you for doing this. My question is, when do you personally feel is the best time to share your work with others? I've oftentimes been so excited about a new idea for a story that I prematurely share it with my friends. And then once I say that loud, I already begin to self-critique and judge my own ideas. So what do you think? I love that you're thinking about that. It says I'm muted. Am I muted? I'm muted. I love that you're thinking about that. How's Michigan? Are you in Michigan right now? I am in Michigan, yes. OK. It's doing OK. We had snow yesterday, which is a little weird. But yeah. So Michigan's always crazy with weather. Yeah, oh, right on. OK, OK. But I think your question's really great because, yeah, we spend a lot of time working on our projects, usually by ourselves, pretty much. And we get a few pages or 10 pages or however many pages or lines or whatever. And we so want to just share it with somebody to get a little pat on the back. Good job. Some encouragement, which is exactly why. One of the reasons exactly why this workshop or show or whatever we are, the sessions we do, these sessions we do, I talk about process and not product. Because I think, yeah, I am relatively slow to share my work, which doesn't mean that I don't want feedback from people, but it does mean that I understand exactly what you're talking about. If I get so eager for someone to say, good job. You know what I mean? Then I'm doing a couple of things. I'm putting my work usually out there before it's ready. And I'm sorry, I'm distracted by J. Julian Christopher's background today, which I have exactly those cats from Ikea. OK, sorry. But I put it out there before it's ready. And I don't allow myself to develop a very interesting muscle, which is one of those muscles, like sometimes you go to the gym or your yoga class and you go, oh, I didn't even know I had that muscle. This is one of those muscles. We know about the tricep and the bicep and the character building and action building. We've got all those things, right? But there's another muscle that I don't even know where it is. It's the muscle of I can pat myself on the back. Yeah, whatever that muscle is, right? It's the something anybody who knows Latin or is a medical professional, you know what I mean? So if you're always out there seeking approval from other people, is this good? Is this good, right? You lose, you do not develop the ability to reflect appropriately on your own work, to give yourself meaningful critique that's not just based on like the anxiety of, oh, darn, I should have done a rewrite before I brought it to my group or my friends, right? You develop patience, right? You develop the ability to, what we call in yoga, which is self-study. So you develop that reflective aspect that is very important to any creative artist, right? So I wait a while. I wait a while. I write a draft and then maybe another draft, you know? Maybe I might share it with early drafts or early pages with my significant other, my spouse, you know what I mean? But that's a very limited kind of, that's more like a sounding board kind of relationship. When you're significant other, they know you so well, you know? But I'm very slow to show work to a wider audience. I do a lot of rewriting, writing and rewriting on my own. So if you have a tendency to, you know, you write it in the morning and then at night you bring it to your group or you write it and you're always running in with pages to prove, look, I'm working and look, aren't I good? If you recognize that tendency or anybody, we recognize that tendency in ourselves, we can take a step back from that. Okay, just take your time. If you're professors, you're in a, you said a writing, you're in a program at Aquinas. If they ask you to bring in pages every week, that gets tricky because then you kind of have to because that's the class assignment. You know, that is what it is. So I mean, that's just a teaching model. That's not the way I teach, but some people find that way of teaching and very helpful. So. Well, thank you very much. That's great advice. Thank you, Reverend. So I would say just hold back a little bit, right? It's like dating, you know? On the first date, the second date, the third day, well, maybe you do give it up, but I would say like, wait a minute, get to, you know, feel good about yourself. Sure, sure. Right, right.  Develop those skills of patience, rewriting, learn how to encourage yourself, right? On your own. Thank you very much. Thank you. You're welcome. Thanks, Zach. All right. Next, we have a question from Julia. Julia, you got a question? I'm in Canada. I'm in Montreal and I'm a theater student and playwright and director. And I noticed that the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, which is I guess like PBS and NPR sort of smushed together, is offering an opportunity for playwrights to pitch a television idea just now during the pandemic. So that we have something to do, I guess. And I do have mixed feelings about whether the play that I was supposed to produce in June, that I'm not producing obviously, whether it should be a television show, but that's for me to decide. I do think it's an excellent opportunity to have someone read my pitch who would ordinarily not even read it. So I do maybe want to take this opportunity. I was wondering if you had any advice on how to write a logline or a one-to-two page summary for someone who has no idea what television people want or are looking for, and has never even thought about television. It's good Friday, people, that's a great question. What do television people want? I work for television people and I don't know how they want, they call me every day. Some days I'm like, I've been working for you guys for a whole year on the same project and I still don't know what you want. Yeah, so I think it's great, Julia, that you're gonna take the opportunity. I think that's a sign of strength, you know?  I would say, is there, is there a show that your play is kind of like? Yes, that's a good question, actually. I mean, not to say that you're mimicking or anything, that, you know, I'm just thinking of how might you go about describing that TV show? Yeah, you see what I mean? You see what I mean? Sometimes I encourage people to like, your play is a lot like this play, so read those plays and see how that writer might have navigated it. Your song is a lot like that. So listen to that song, you know? So that could be kind of a fun thing to do. Also, it's a two-page, it's a two-page treatment that they ask for. One to two pages. One to two pages, yeah. So again, again, you wanna tell yourself, tell your reader the story very simply, right?  Again, it's a visual medium. I know there's a lot of visual elements in theater also, but you know, think of starting to see it as a TV show. A TV, yeah, what is it gonna be? Like a 30-minute show? I'm not sure what kind of broadcasting. You guys do all stuff, right? 30-minute program series. Yeah, they ask you to choose if you think it should be a 30 or a 60. Okay. I guess the comedies are usually 30 and the girls usually... Okay, so what do you think yours is gonna be? 30 minutes or 60 minutes? What do you think? 60, I think. Great, great. So also, you can spend a lot of time, I don't know if you're allowed to walk outside where you look Montreal. I don't know what you guys are, you know? I walk outside very early in the morning with a mask on. But, you know, as you walk around, imagine like, I know it's not a movie, I know it would be a TV show, but it's gonna be on the screen. Imagine your play on the screen in the movie theater of your mind, you see? So turn the movie theater on, turn the movie on and watch your play. You see, try to imagine it as if it were a film. Go scene by scene by scene. Try to start thinking of it as a film. And then... That's Siri talking to me for reasons that I don't understand. Okay. But do you see what I mean? So start imagining your play as if it were a film, okay? And then hit the big tent poles, as I call them. You know, this is a teleplay about Badam Padam.  I don't know, I'm making sure that. But you see what I mean? She's got her, you know? I mean, I don't know, but think of the big story, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay, thank you. Okay, thank you. Sorry. Thanks, Julia. All right, so our next question is coming from Madison. Madison, are you there? Do we hear you, Madison? I don't see Madison, I don't hear them either. I'm gonna go to the next one. Okay. All right, next we have MC. Are you there, MC? Hello. Hi, hi. Hey, MC. Hi. So I think my question goes kind of well with the conversation you and Zach were having. I am a playwright and autobiographical solo performer in Chicago. Oh, cool. And the struggle that I've been having most recently is that I feel like I get so bogged down in one line or one moment that I can't figure out how to solve. And I get very anxious and down about that. And I feel like I'm missing the forest for the trees a lot of the time. So my question is, techniques that you have to develop that muscle of in mind, what about your work is good and worth it? That's a great question, MC.  One thing I do, yeah, there's a lot of techniques if you hit a wall. One of my favorites is to just take out a highlight. If it's a piece of text you have and you're rewriting it or it's a place in the performance piece that you're writing, am I on the right track of the kind of thing that you do?  Sometimes I just put in really big letters. Oh, I don't know what goes here.   Because if you, it doesn't mean that you're not dealing with it. It means that you're choosing to deal with it at another time, okay? Yeah, sometimes people do free writing or exercises or all this stuff. But if you say you get kind of ensnared by these moments then I would suggest maybe just take out a, you know, print it, if you're doing it on a piece of paper in your notebook or wherever you work. Sometimes I just circle it and go, I'll come back to this, you know, put a pen in it. I'll come back to this moment. I'll just keep going. You see what I'm saying? That works really well for me. There are numerous exercises you can, sure you can go for a walk and think about it. You can free write it out.   I don't know what the character does next.   Brilliant will come later.  You know what I'm saying? But also one of my favorite things is I just, if I don't know how to solve something in a script or something I'm working on, I just keep going to the next thing. Something has to happen here. Character A has to interact in some way with character B and then character R has to come in and do something. I don't even know what, but I do know what happens three scenes from now. You know, does that help at all? That's very helpful. Thank you so much.  You want to feel like you can keep moving, you know? Okay, and keep coming back here. We can keep checking in. Thank you. You're welcome. All right, we are gonna try and get Madison back on. She's chatted with me. Hold on one second. All right, Madison, you should be unmuted now. Hello. Hi. We did it. Hey, Madison, yay! All right, oh, hi, I'm Madison. I'm in Queens, New York. Hey. So my question is about genre and tropes. So I'm working on a suspense piece, but I normally write comedy. So I'm trying to try something new, because I feel like this is the best time to try something new. Any tips you have for avoiding any genre tropes and like stereotypes that might go with some of the other, some other genres like suspense and horror? I want to include a couple of character tropes just because I'm a big horror movie fan and I kind of want to pay homage to that, but I'm trying to avoid doing that and still sticking to like, just character development and action development. Yeah, yeah, well, that's a great, great. And I'm glad you're trying something new. This is, as Madison said, this is the perfect time to try something new. You want to write something that is in the form, but not of the form too much, right? So you kind of want to do both. Like, I mean, I don't know any, any stereotypes or tropes or anything that happened in the suspense genre. I don't know. Like a horror film, like the black person always gets killed first. Yeah, like stuff like that.  That's kind of a common one. The trope of the lesbian dies and the, right. Okay, so I get it, okay. Okay, so let's not do either of those or any of those. Let's not do those. But I mean, if you have a clear list of the things that you don't want to do, you might find yourself, because you are writing in the form, doing some things that have been done often before. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's okay. I think the main thing is, if you really ground yourself and your characters and make them really fun for you and make them exciting to you, then I think if you hit some of the well-used, you know, tropes, if you call them, then, oh well, you know, it's funny. I was writing something recently and there was an abusive husband, a husband who was physically abusive to his wife. And the producers came back and said, that's a trope. And I said, it's also reality. You know what I mean? I feel like I know what I am struggling with as part of that type of thing. Yeah. So sometimes what's weird is that sometimes just the realities of life have become tropes. They're often used, but they are true. And we can't simply eliminate them because they've been used often. Yeah. Just, so I would say, again, ground yourself and your character. And if these often used moments surface and tend to happen, that's okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Just make it fun. You know, it sounds like you're gonna have a great time. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Okay. Great. Awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks, Madison. All right. Next, we have Rudy. Rudy, are you unmuted? Hello? Hey. Hey. Hi. You got to me. That's so dope. I didn't think you were gonna make it. Let's go. Hi, Ms. Parks. Hello. Do you go to Yale, Rudy? I do. I'm at Yale. How do we know? Because I have 1982 vintage sweater that I found or that actually a friend gave to me. I do. I do go to school here for playwriting. It's my first year that ended earlier than I thought. So my question kind of actually revolves around coming to school, right? So a little feedback or a little background. Like I'm a solo theater performer, dance theater artist, and I've been creating solo dance theater work for the last like 15 plus years. And then, you know, I was teaching down in Miami where I'm from and kind of was like, okay, what's the next step? Like what do I want to do? And so I've never really had like the time and space to the time and space to give to like my writing as much as I wanted to. So that's why I applied for grad school and I got in. And then I was like, damn, do I have anything else to write about? Like I was like, am I done writing? Like have I written everything that I'm supposed to write? Like I've written that mom piece with the brother. Like I've written like, you know, and so there's like prompts that like we've been giving given during like class and workshops and those kind of have been helpful sometimes. But I'm just kind of like figuring out, usually when I don't have anything to write, I move around and dancing helps me.  But I've been dancing for 25 years now. And so like that also has kind of like ran its course.  And two, if so, how do you keep generating the inspirations or the prompts or the ideas where you're like, oh, okay, this is what's next, you know? Does that make sense? Am I ranting? Yeah, you're raving actually. No, no, no, you're perfect, Rudy, you're perfect. Yeah, no, a lot of times, you know, a lot of times you get to the end of the road, you know, you've seen those signs that say, you know, the sidewalk ends here. There was one online a couple of days ago, sidewalk ends here and the sidewalk came all the way up. There was a sign. So you're, you know, or that book where the sidewalk ends written by, I forget who wrote it. Charles Silverstein? Yes, yes, yes, Silverstein, yeah, who's a strange dude. Anyway, who wrote a lot of children's books. But yeah, so you're sidewalks, so you're at the end of one of your sidewalks maybe and then you're looking around. It doesn't mean it's the end of your path. It just means that maybe it's the end of your paved path, right? So now here we are in the wilderness, Rudy. You know, you're gonna have to walk around in the wilderness and maybe be lost for a day or two or a week or two where the old tools don't get you the results that they used to. Yeah. It's not a bad place to be. It can be a confusing place to be. It can be an upsetting place or a less than comfortable place to be. But I think it sounds like you're there.  I mean, I was thinking the other day, does the butterfly enjoy its time in the cocoon? Probably not. Right? Yeah. Probably not. Yeah. They're in there going, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.  Whatever, I was worm. I was a mind of my own business at Caterpillar and then yeah, and then yeah. Okay, so you might be going through something like that. Yeah. Again, like Rilke says, patience is everything, you know? Patience, keep working. Keep, you know, keep writing. Keep dancing.  Keep up with your classes. Keep trying those prompts, you know? Yeah. Have you ever written the mom play, the brother play? I mean, actually, I didn't know. I mean, that's what you learn when you go to academic institutions. There are categories for these things. I had no idea. The mom play, the brother. Oh, I didn't either until I... Okay, well, you went to Yale, you go to Yale. But yeah. I think it's very much that, like the old tools that I've been using for so long and just like not working for me right now or in a bit. And so I guess I'm just, yeah, trying to figure out where these new tools are at that I can use to get to the forest and or use to climb down or climb up or go the other way, even though I can't walk this way because the sidewalk just ended, you know? So just like trying to figure out where I can find those things and wondering if, yeah, yeah. If you were at my side, or at my side.  Yeah, a hundred. Yeah, who are, yeah. I think we're more, yeah, we're a hundred and four strangers or something. Yeah, just hanging out like with a common, a common, uncommon set of difficulties or interests, you know?  It's always there. You know, the spirit is always saying, hey, you have to show to the spirit. Look, there's the hand of God. You have to just show. I'm willing to show up.  Yeah. And you're gonna have to double down and say, spirit, I'm still here. I'm not only here when the going's good and the writing comes relatively easily, right? I'm here, I show up for you when the going is a little rougher. Spirit, right? So just you hang in there and try everything. Read, listen to music, watch movies, you know? Read poetry. What kind of stuff do you not like to read?  Great. Yeah. More than the reading I should have done during the last two semesters. There you go. So there you go, you know? Just keep at it and keep coming here and keep being part of supportive communities that want you to succeed. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you, Rudy. Okie dokie. Next, we have Saf. I'm saying that wrong, I think, but hold on, here you go. Are you unmuted? Hi. Hey. Yes, it's Saf. So yeah, you said it right. Hey, Saf. Hello, everybody. I know there's a lot of people that can't say hey, but I'm just glad to be here. This is very different. I am in Georgia. I go to Kennesaw State and this is my last semester or half semester because, you know, we're all quarantined now. But so my question was kind of, so our last little projects that we have to do after a 10-minute play, and I have an idea and I've started writing, but I feel like it's slowly expanding because I have, like, so much I want to put into it. So my question is, how can I condense it without taking away all the love that I want to put into it? Good question. Good question, Saf. How many pages would a 10-minute play be? Do you think? About 10 to 12, probably. Uh-huh. For our class, I don't know. All right. How many have you written of the page? I've written about five pages and I feel like I have so much more. Great, that's okay. Right to the end of the 10, get to page 10 or 12, right? And then see. You see what I mean?  Right. Get to page 12. Do you know what happens at the end of your play? Of your 10-minute play? Yes. Great, great. So that's the last page, right? Yeah. And right to that. If you have big, oh my gosh, but I'm realizing that in the, from page eight to page 10 is this epic battle scene where the hero, she gets on a dragon that she actually tames in the earlier scene and then she goes to heaven and she talks to God and God's not there because God's on vacation. And then she comes back to all that, right? You can put it in the stage direction, right? And you can even put to be expanded when I make the play longer. But don't let your belief that you're gonna not fit it in, stop you from writing, because right now you haven't gotten there yet. You only on page five, girl. Right. So you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Okay, so I'll just be harsh. Don't use that as an excuse to keep you from getting done, okay? Okay. And you can always expand it later. True, absolutely true. Thank you so much. You're welcome so much. Any advice? Thanks for energy, everything. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. All right, it is 5.56. So we have four minutes left and we'll do one more. All right, Naaman, I believe this. How do you pronounce this? Are you unmuted? Oh, cool. Yeah, I'm unmuted. Hi. Hey, what's up, Susan? Hey, my question is, so I'm a songwriter, originally a pop songwriter, and I'm transitioning into working on my first theater pieces. And so a lot of my time has been just learning about the theater world and learning how to write scripts and all that kind of stuff. But now since I'm working on the first drafts, I wanna know what are your thoughts on script formatting when writing the first drafts? Should I stick to it as I go or maybe after I finish it, should I shape it up later? Because I feel like it slows down like my creative process of going through it. But I also kind of wanna adhere to some things that just make it easier for me when I actually start sharing this work. Great, great, Naaman. And again, great for you for trying something new. Very cool, very cool. So I would say, just in formatting, I would say just pick an easy format that you can, you write on a computer or... Yeah, on the computer. But I'm also thinking about freehand too. I don't know, it's something about that that I'm feeling, yeah. Okay, okay. I would say, again, like with SAF, don't let the specifics of the form trip you up, you know what I'm saying? I think it's really important that you, if you're on the computer, pick an easy format that you can do, like character name, colon, and then what they're saying, okay? Stage directions you can put in parentheses and just do that, okay? That's readable, that's understandable for everybody who reads plays. Later on, you can use programs like Final Draft or all that that help you shape it into more of a teleplay or a screenplay or a script format.  You just write the character's name, dot, dot, and then what they're saying, and then any stage directions you just write out in parentheses. Cool, cool. That'll be good enough. Yeah, and I also, you know, I asked because I got your script today. There you go, well, see, that's why we're talking about your work. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And yeah, yeah, because I'm, you know, I'm like playing fast and loose with the rules. I like to do it in a certain kind of way because to me, I like that. But it's one of your early plays, then you can just, yeah, but enjoy Top Dog and Dog. Thank you, I will. That's fine, thank y'all. Thank you. All right, we got one minute left. We can do one more. Let's do one more. Great, we have got Terry. Terry, are you ready? Oh, I'm ready. Yay. Hi, from Gainesville, Florida, in the swamp. Hey, Terry, from the swamp. I write a lot of poetry, but right now I'm also doing some speculative fiction. And I have a couple of short stories that I'm compiling, but in the rewrite process, I have trouble ending it. So I'll rewrite and do something else and come back and read through it and rewrite some more.  Any recommendations? Yeah, it's a skill, and you just have to learn about how you can let go. And a couple of things, Terry, that it doesn't have to be perfect to show it to someone. We started this session today talking about, we don't wanna send it out to our friends too early, right? But we also don't wanna hold on to it so long that no one ever gets to see it because we have to make it perfect. Okay.  It's time to let go, right? So at a certain point, the kid becomes, however old they were gonna become, the script develops in such a way that it's, you've done several rewrites on it. You've read it to yourself. You read it to maybe one or two close friends. You've gotten their feedback. You've thought about it. You fixed everything that you can see needs fixing. And then you can pass it on, you know, to other people to read. Okay. You see what I mean? Yeah. And it doesn't, it does not need to be perfect. They say God is good, not God is perfect. Okay. Yeah, so that's the path we follow, yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much, Terry. All right, it's 6-0-1. We've done it again. Week number two. Week number two. As a reminder, all of the links for week number three are now up on publictheater.org. You can sign up each day by 3 p.m. Eastern time and I will send you the link between 3 p.m. and 4 30 p.m. And we'll see you here next week. Happy Good Friday, happy Easter. Those of you who celebrate that.


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That's about it right here factor auto mark Casado. I Drove for 16 hours What yeah with the Mississippi Yeah, I know you didn't notice I was gone, it's okay Well, you also work day times now, so I just don't see you refractor Anthony. That's true. I Come in on my hair everybody. I was like, all right. See ya Go visit my dad for a day or two Mississippi speckle the 150 Fabio Moretti. How's Mississippi? It's um Yeah, that's boring oh Man that sounds that sounds like Mississippi. I mean if you like going to casino, I guess there's that refractor true come back Um, it's all I got yeah essentially then bassin ages alchemy Yeah, we're waving a gold is good. Good start green neon green shimmer to 350 is Robert Levin. Dotsky fracter Muhammad army Yeah, we got so we do our Thanksgiving at the shop today and there's a lot of food out there I had two plates of food and then like a dessert plate. I haven't touched any of you guys Wise move. I'm a feeling it right now But I'm not magenta. See, I don't even know what color this is vintage Roland Bianco rookie Morph's is losing his color Losing half in sight. I actually rest my eyes Cal Cal's got pie.  How rude is this? Not rude to me. I already had a bunch of food you came in here walk past the food decided to work With pumpkin pie It's pretty solid that spice cake is really good. It's like cinnamon Yes It's delicious Donnie, I don't know if there's nuts in it though. So yeah Yeah, I was gonna say wait for I was like saving quit. I'm not gonna so quit asking Not yet. No, but okay Clean up clean up Barney song everybody. Do you share Barney song? That's a Barney song Grease one refractor cow. We're starting off with a personal Merlin case here But I bet you couldn't guess who it's for Did Chris actually buy the whole thing? Yeah, I told you Roy Keen all coming the other day that we had one. What's up, Chris? We're watching this layer or now Let's go Chris. He's watching now. Aqua speckled the 199 Amino Amino. Let's go Chris What's up, quicks You're going to australia new york hawaii in canada? How are you going all those things that are you on this? He said this week. Oh the holidays rookie refractor is Boniface. That sounds pretty incredible australia new york hawaii in canada. What? That's Jamie by no gittens rookie vintage merlin Hello, metro. Hello, chris. It is a pumpkin pie. Yeah pumpkin pie. What have we got pumpkin and pecan out there with pumpkin pecan There's some like spice cake. There's some apple crumble thing. Do we just have brownies? There's cookies probably tip cookies and sure cookies and can't have the other kinds peanut butter. No Green refractor to 99 gabriel jesus. That's all the unhealthy stuff your legal span and riko and you guys will win Yeah, okay I agree. Yeah, football's still on They still play that sport Of course quit watching after week like five Yeah, rookie refractor is bakayoko Let me know when the real game start Playoff neon green shimmer rookie to 350 divin obama Yeah, and you have to create a new account. I uh, I came across that as well Rookie refractor quentin merlin for nont no autos and what tony? Oh, we got a merlin merlin I know the product is needed after him No, I don't know that is Chocolate orange Fractor con se shall Say camera Carter vickers refractor auto Needs some nice autos here color was decent in the first couple boxes Got pulled together here. Let's go chris. Come on Give me some more jutes Yeah, dine is Celtics fan Fractor rookie fasholi No, I don't know what kind of thing I am marshal a thundering herd Speckled to 150 lerois sunny Byron Going to christian Shoulder I should have done a random And he would take all two minutes. I know he would he last night Dude last night last night. All right, great. What's your pick gonna be? It's like I'll take white guy dribbling a basketball. There's a yokich up there I was like, what's your zip code? He put six nine six nine six nine and I was just like Jeez, oh my god, dude Yeah, riposato gregs, man, hey Riposato gregs. You can't uh Uncle g C. O. L. Pirate sign Gilberto Celestino Alfonso davis refractor. They were all waiting on yet. I'm a moto to sign Merlin, uh, there's an auto per box in this Tony Nice Tony. Oh, just because it ends with e e Uh, virtual van dyke refractor. All right, cow. All right, the young green shimmer rookie is illing jr 350 Like the stream for donny only they just came in for lunch and then this works Who did I'm saying maybe that's why I should have done because son rookie refractor for nont Maybe there's so much food donny So it's not like last night's good factor auto benjamin henricks for leipzig There was a ton of food last night sitting too. Well, no, but this food is better Oh, that's good. Oh, I'm sorry, Tony Got a pierrot rookie refractor Atomic 250 is pagerie Atomic pagerie So apparently demerced somehow one last night. Uh, yeah, Denver did one last night for cure factor alex lauri. It's unfortunate A vintage of lahovitch vintage merlin refractor of lahovitch There's a speckle rookie evan gasson to 150 Such each inserts. Yeah, we got to pick it up here with uh What's some nice hits borralla refractor that photograph reminds me of the guy I think I was like Oh that guy he's in he's in uh, he's in uh fortnight now. Do you know his audience talking to me? I seen the commercial of that I forget what his name is. I don't know either. He's just that guy. Yeah, he's that guy Okay All right four base autos so far Some decent color we got this thing's got to turn around here start with the ball card Not here Not in this one force is uh box shooting percentage red socks We'll see tony. They got a lot of work to do refractor rookie is mario hila lazio Uh, no match ball yet. Hopefully a match ball in the case though Into box five here, of course messy alchemy Yeah, red sox got a ways to go Atomic is going to be martinelli to 250 Gabriel martinelli Leroy sané refractor gave away rookie autos to goodwill vintage merlin is magasa Vintage merlin rookie magasa cool to magasa See That's good. How's it going a plus a plus Mohammed salah refractor or did you forget there's an awesome a plus plus There's not that that doesn't exist Did in my elementary Oh Refractor rookie is piero. Sorry. You went to the fancy school. Yeah That was like a half a point extra credit. You know, we're gonna rate band names again Oh, no, no rosegold chamber to 299 takifusa kubo. Yeah, we might be of all the ones that we already read Because I don't remember there's like 80 of them. I know Right more than that actually that was going on for like two hours Longer than that. It was like all night things Who's that felt like it Put uh, we could use donny's name and put it in words again refractor rookie is fabio carvalho Yeah, because that never loses its its value It's always good We can play we can play the greatest hits. It's been down in a while The greatest hits play the greatest hits since we have done in a while There's a tamas molar on these sorcerers insert autograph That's a pretty solid one there. It's a mass molar auto. Yeah, I haven't seen that insert before It's only an auto insert That's kind of cool. That's all we need some color now. Yeah, color would be nice Barela again on the refractor Green mojo to 99 rookies. He's a haku fatawu. That's a pretty nice one there fatawu to 99 Enzo merlin's masters we get some water. We'll keep going with check spots too I wish my name was worth more than gold A lot of spots coming in 18 to go on series one 16 to go on sp authentic sp authentic halfway then Ultimate hockey at 20 random hit style there I think a spot has come in for every single break except the last definitive and since we started this case That's pretty awesome. That's pretty awesome Um tier one I think turn one's down to one next break than yes Yeah, so down to one on the next tier one boon is liga Eight to go on the one after it Yeah spot came in for every single break since we started this case How many encounters have you had with the shop ghost? He's been quietly so hasn't pretty quietly too Now we mentioned it how I mentioned it. I was gonna like levitate tonight I'll be like whoa anyway It's like the least crazy thing I've seen here recently the least yeah least You see who we work with I've seen crazy. It's true. I've seen crazy. All right. It's a good point. Stop joshua Don't worry let him in he barged in Who he threatened to let a bunch of sandhole cranes in the in the building Actually, we're in their normal spots. I was kind of surprised by that when jake and sam left earlier They were like right in front of the door. Okay, they're right on the the slash line like in between the the spots or fractal levendowski Operant shengyun shengun is good. I like shengyun. What position see He's like a power forward Green mojo to 99 kodi gakpo I've been keeping up with box scores and it seems like he has decent stats like every night. So yeah, he's definitely one of stats He's got to get better defensively. I think but Offensively, it's really good. Good pass or two. I've been trying to watch a good amount like spurs games and uh You're a boss for key refractor. Um Not to take away from uh wemby's attention, but uh Sohan needs to pass the ball more off go to 199. Andres skulls in To 199. I feel like he's taking too many shots trying to get fouls instead of trying to Make uh big plays happen Sohan, yeah Yeah, he's really good though rookie refractor. Is that ingra? No, he's made some solid shots. I have no argument there Black friday. We'll put some sealed stuff. Um up for sale I think rich is gonna do it starting thursday, maybe and then we'll have um, we'll have a coupon roll out I don't know exactly when well as long as you're a sign up for sms. You'll be able to have it So make sure you guys are signed up for sms Um pretty soon here home page of the website just scroll down Past where I like the streaming info is you'll see it there. It's signed up to receive exclusive newsletter updates discounts and info Just make sure you're signed up for that Aqua wave rookie auto to 150. Alex Lowry. Are we getting numbered autos now? Maybe maybe that's a turning point. That's turning point It is almost a halfway mark. So Maybe the second half will be Crazy Yeah, don't I came out of retirement? I did We traded into uh to sorting in the in the warehouse. They're like, we don't want them Fractor Sergio Ramos. We want our pick back Got speckled to 150 gavi Now for the season, unfortunately gavi. Yeah, definitive last year breaks of the night. Well, that's just kind of what happened, josh will win they kind of Threw it at us on that saturday like we got it on a saturday. So yeah That was the that was the first day that was non scheduled on the website that we could put it on What's the day?  Let's do a purple wave again, but let's uh make it messy Let's see Holland That works too very cool God bless the case earlier in definitive. You got a car cozy dual auto cozy. I was running by much out of that That's pretty cool. Yeah, Padres and Padres is a pretty solid deal At least the initial pricing we had atomic rookie to 250 ecotique. It's solid ecotique atomic Fractor a public greeny one of one super factor in this All right first tier one is sold out now two Nice All right, 70 go on the second one of those cases And that he's got some tabs open over there. Oh, yeah Casado a rookie vintage merlin trying to trying to remember how I tell this works Yeah, that first pricing. Yeah, that's how it was off of nags on saturday, uh, joshua They uh, the Padres were like 149 and they were like one of the first two teams to sell like Every time I listed a new case And they hit a lot too. They hit a lot Kubo refractor Even even 200 might be kind of I don't even know where they had 249 now or 200. I forget My closing uh today friday sunday The fractor Alfonso Davies. He's pretty good. The commanders are just Yeah, I don't know I don't know what happened this week, but Aqua speckled a 199 conste chow Francisco conste chow Right. Yeah them and the astros the astros think we're the same thing and they have the second modes hits in definitive Behind the um Behind the braves Pobega refractor So you're a spurs fan now No, I just wanted to keep in the loop. So watch watch wendy. Yeah Refractor luka modes reach. They're also on national tv a lot now. I just I don't have access to that. So Streamies is uh Streamies Jota refractor Yeah battle the swifts is what donny said battle the swifts We're watching actually a decent amount of basketball lately That's good. Basketball is fun, man Yeah, it's fun like when you actually know what's going on Yes Yes refractor rookie mcala mudrick That helps tail the battle between taylor and de andre it is Green refractor rookie mohammed ali chow to 99 Youngsters got some potential nice green mohammed ali chow. They should just have travis and uh Jason going them up the midfield and do an arm wrestling contest. I think there's a chunky commercial So let's just hope jason wins. That's the game. That's over. Do you think he would win? He did in the commercial but after he ate his chunky soup, they didn't rematch so They got to have a rematch Campbell's chunky soup. Yeah chunky bowman draft next week I think it's uh, we'll probably have it up like a few days before release So 12 12 probably won't be up until Is that a tuesday release day? Why is it releasing on it? Oh, I know why Why for us? I know why are you not enlightening us? Because it's 12 12 And uh time Brady has first bowman in the product. Oh That's why it's releasing on a Tuesday. That's that's good marketing right there That's why. So is he on a Tuesday? There we go That makes sense. Aqua speckled of 199 of Christopher and cunku Fracture to a mani. I forgot. Tom Brady was in the product. Oh, he in it. Oh, he in it vintage merlin taco fusa cubo Yeah, so that'll probably be up the the friday before release. I would think That's bowman draft, right? Yep Bowman draft it's refractor edward will come a vinga. Do you know any prospects off top of your head? Which will be the chase in that? um Yeah, so paul cruz probably the most sought-after prospect is going to be in 2024 bowman, I would think Okay, well, he's but he's a national and brady expose go to the national. So they're still freaking stacked Yeah, skeens is one of the guys why at langford Okay, uh, what's his name max clark? I think is what it is I've heard of langford I forget what team picked them, but Yes, those are those the guys Those are the few but draft is always hot and then a guy named tom Brady x was prospect Fractor a benjamin sesco Be funny if you see random Lucy tom Brady pitching in the minors mojo rookie auto pablo torre two or seven of 99 Pablo torre a solid one there What is that? Never seen never seen that never seen that Few weeks away from bowman draft. That'll be exciting. That's usually the Usually the hottest bowman release of the year usually green refractor rookie runny bargy to 99 Nice bargy his values up decent amount Bargy where's he at? He's in Copenhagen currently, but he's like 18 years old. So he'll make a transfer to bigger club at some point Cabaret rookie refractor Kakai is alchemy come come pink mojo to 275 took to kumimi and a minu minu minu It's a lot going on It's kumimi and a minu Gold nice rookie isaku futabu 13 out of 50. Okay Getting a little better here green bargy green futabu or gold futabu Okay, okay, okay So our three suffer bowman drafts that certainly won't happen. We're here refractor sulle for Juventus Especially since we don't know the price of it yet every time tony's and tony's and chat tony's asking for a discount Every time don't every time donnie sees me ask you for 20 bucks That's my bucks. No, all right, you know one day you might say yes for us. I don't know. Maybe I keep asking Maybe well, yeah, here it is.  Ah burning money God refractor of neymar my fingers hurt Roberto carlos on the ages alchemy I am sore though. I'm on the like six straight day of breaking soreness Like you don't realize it till you start breaking you're like, oh, yeah Rookie awkward of 199 is netto for benfica It's this movement. That's the one That's the one Refractor is awkward. We're just gonna start. I'm just gonna do with this vintage of mudrick rookie no It doesn't look bad on camera at all Obama rookie refractor Yeah, it's not messy. What we need to do Is is saw a square right here and then it feels to be a trash hole God refractor is y'all can say low the problem's all We're gonna saw another square over there for sam and gyle.  I don't know when Sealed stuff goes up or when a coupon drops. I don't know All I know is it's gonna happen I don't even think rich knows exactly when It'll just be like, all right What about those of us who lack patience? Fine patience. I don't know what to tell you refractor is marcus rashford.  Yes, that's not cheap Guy refractor is for a hushy Yeah, we stopped we stopped doing pre sales a bit ago. It's too much to keep it's too much to keep up with and then if We're too high or too low someone gets hurt y'all get hurt or we get hurt So we don't want to do we don't do it anymore green mojo rookie to 99 is all my azzili azzili green mojo to 99 We need something big here. It's the case. He's got a little better Now he's gotta get you gotta get chris something something bigger. Yeah super big red Even just nice color of a big name would be huge What's up, Andrew Broke up a tele cheese man I'm glad sounds like you're doing better than you were a few weeks ago. So that's good to hear But man, sorry that happened I don't know what part of the buy that is that is the uh the knee kneecap Yeah, that's that's that's gotta be uh some painful rehab. All right, 17 to go on the Series one hockey tend to go tend to go on triple case. Jeez Nice Yeah, baseball's moving now too. Everything's moving now start talking about bowman bowman draft and baseball this bowman bowman hungman sun refractor Rivaldo Aqua to 199 killian imbappe. It's the name you want to see right there imbappe aqua I'm bakwa.  No Giovanni rena refractor I've uh You you uh watch movie chris vacation You got to watch it donnie Uh vintage marlin mohammed army do why the what I do I whoever says next to me we quote Christmas vacation that's that why I don't text you or we don't talk Huh, what are you talking about donnie? Wait, what do you say talk to all the time? So whoever says next to me. Oh next to you. I thought you said Well whoever texts me. Yeah Yeah, I just text movie quotes. That's it. I don't know Giovanni refractor whoever says next to me we're raking and we talk about a Christmas vacation this time of year. Oh, well I guess you're gonna have to find a different topic because I don't know I don't want to tell you. All right. Jim carries the Grinch. Oh, okay. You know that one. Yeah a little bit All right, what's your favorite Christmas movie there? I don't know. I don't I'm lame. I don't have one refractor amin amino. All right your homework is to get one I mean honestly if I had to say say I'd probably just say elf That's solid. That's solid. Fractorado is ciego alcantra Alcantra. That's probably just because I've seen it the most I think donnie would probably handle the pre-orders if we'd ever did that rookie refractor is nusa. No You wouldn't do it. I always just feel like rich. This is too much. Please stop doing this I can't take it. You're gonna baby out. Come on, man. Yeah Got a mcala mudrick merlin's masters. I'll do it.  All right. Well, this isn't worth it. Rookie refractor martin neto Speckle the 150 mcala yorzebol. Why do you guys cancel pre-sales? Ah, we didn't want to hear donnie cry anymore Start becoming irritating. Rookie refractor yohanneson. What's up, steve? steve Go birds steve That's what shondard my voice track trying to do is I can't do it Sorry guys just just turned 14 Yeah, shabby's pretty fast right now Yeah, they're moving. We're up there. They're moving Well on mass ball Maybe I guess it's in the last box. I hope it's in the last box Come on merlin Come on merlin merlin pure low alchemy rose gold shimmer to 299 is shall conselo refractor madueke Did you know a fanatics live you can't type in green day's first album Or their first widely produced album. Can't type in dukey vintage merlin luke romero. I forgot that's what it was called Yeah, you can't type in dukey. Also, that's A bit much I guess I guess so I didn't know that was a swear word I didn't know either I just said on the shoot like three times too. I said dukey like four times refractor jamal musiala Gonna lock it in for chris here. We need to we need to find something real nice Kyle blessed the case before I left should have He gathered the everything though. So no refractor harvey elliot because he kind of did So he got all of it. Oh, yeah, you can't type beer either Really blue refractor to 75 kevin de Bruyne Very nice color on the de Bruyne Hey, you can't type in go birds either refractor mohammed kudos. Oh, well, it looks like I just Just don't chat in fanatics. So b33 are a type in beer like that Blue refractor is auto kodi got put a 75. That's a pretty solid one. Nice Probably the nicest, uh auto of the case so far kodi got put blue refractor auto You're on all block What other fun words can't you type in? Well, there's there's there's some obvious. There's some obvious common common words. Yeah, I love you rephrase that. Let me think about this Just say them all speckled a 150 yon oblox Can't see you can't say weed either What's up thermo, how we doing thermo that one I can understand more than beer But still I guess and refractor mosey simone All right, come on ball card Come on last box Give us what we want Good luck chris Thank you for the purchase as always sir Maybe I don't see it All right, no match. Well, come on. All right big renaissance here then come on What's the other one? Isn't there another renaissance is the sp? Is there not another one? There has to do Work your factor enzo fernandez I thought there was like a one that had like a blackish background. Oh hidden gems Yeah, that one's a lot rarer than like you want a case or so Anthony vintage Yeah, thank you. Appreciate it. That's what I call service right there, huh?  That was weird We'll see how they do against ohio state Hopefully they win I hope so too Muhammad kudos refractor gold Is an auto of hendrick larson to 50 that's pretty nice too nice some solid autos in the last couple boxes The autos got better as we went along. That's for sure. Yeah color kind of did too late in ghost He showed his face rose gold shimmer rookie to 299 valentine carbony. Yeah larson's a cool goal out of that for sure Henry larson refractor rookie will be manu red Come on red. Okay. Come on red. Nice bruno fernandez six of 10 Yeah, great last box. Here we go chris Bruno number to 10 Yeah, yeah Sick color match dude True Maybe a renaissance too. I don't I hope but I don't know man Refractor rookie is matthew o'reilly Zavi ages alchemy And neon green shimmer out of 350 rookie fabio carvalho. I had a recap for you chris Missing didn't have a renaissance not missing. There's not guaranteed, but no match ball and a renaissance man. I'm sorry Probably pretty average case other than those two not being there Right numbered cards. We had carvalho illing jr mubama levandowski cancelo cubo martinez carbony Minamino do a martinelli Petri ecotique Mbappé neto scovolson in cunku con con se ciao modric minamino Oh yours the ball sonny all block Gavi gesson meretti fatalu a zili gakbo Ali show bar g on the green jesus Blue refractor of de Bruyne Fatalu gold gold at zili gold atomic larry purple wave of nicolas ganzales the 15 autos of alcantara jota henricks Carter vickers gassado tiao Muller muller waved 150 larry to 150. It's a 99 torey the 75 gakbo to 50 henrick larson That's a really cool one and a red refractor number to 10 of bruna fernandez Thank you again chris. Um, we're moving on now to tier one one is like everybody


Gavin Jordan, the winner of the $25,000 novice championship at the 2016 World Finals. Congratulations to you Gavin. Thank you, thank you very much. Now you rode Mercedes smooth. How did the finals end up in terms of your go rounds? I won the first go round mark 222.5 and was second in the second go round mark 218. So you came into it with a pretty hefty lead. I came in 15,000 ahead so they couldn't catch me so it was pretty freewheeling. It was fun. You could actually just sit back and enjoy the cutting for once? No matter what happened it was going to be alright. Does it make it different for you when you're in that position? I like coming in in that position. It's a lot better than having to fight them off for sure. Does it make the cutting better or a few nerves help? Well it helps I mean because there's nothing you know you can't lose. It's pretty easy to just have to try and win. That's a lot easier than not trying to lose for sure. So tell us this is your fifth world championship. Does it feel any different to the others? Are you getting used to this or are you hungry for more? Always hungry for more. I was actually reserved in the 5,000 novice by $46 if you can believe that. And my mare had been hurt for the last two months of the year and this was her first show back. So I don't like being second near as much as winning. And that was your tussle at that event? Absolutely yep. Okay so tell us about Mercedes Smooth. I like the name. Is she good to ride? Absolutely. She's fabulous. Matt Gaines trained her. Steph and Chuck Rovan owner sent her to me at the start of the year for the purpose of trying to win a world title on her. Come out of an unbelievable program. So although it's not easy to win a horse like that trained that well it makes it a lot easier I can tell you that. What are the plans for this horse? She's in the sale this weekend or next weekend I should say. No that was also part of the plan trying to build that record on her. She's won 145,000 now and world champion. Hopefully that helps her in the sale. Will you be taking the ride again next year? I don't know what I'm going to do next year. I'm going to get through this one. I got one in the semifinals at the Ferturity and we'll see what happens. How many shows do you typically hit in the year when you're doing the world finals? How many did you hit this year? I couldn't tell you. We went hard until August and then our age events started out there in the West Coast so the weekend stuff backed off. So then I hit the age events and finished up the year as we could. Well it's pretty good to be able to hit both finals and be successful so good job, thank you. Thank you, appreciate it.