pider-man television show, right? Well, should we just go over that again? What did I say? Is a tough one but try and pay attention there miss chaos. What did I say? No, not really I didn't expect a lot from this because it dealt with mechanics that are very difficult to ground into anything coherent on top of Being in phase four However, at the same time Sam Raimi was involved and there are plenty of examples of what appeared to be completely Nonsensical mechanics on the surface getting engaged quite coherently in other movies Yeah, you you're talking about you're talking about into the spider-verse that is the example that you're not on Raimi anymore When I talked about Raimi I showed Raimi and then when I talked about something else, I showed something else Exactly I think his his brain hasn't caught up to the visuals yet. It's sort of like out of sync I like how he brings up Sam Raimi and is showing clips from a spider-man movie Red Shot Sherwood is that why you went to here just to see if he shits on two bums like that's what He said it's not even like that's not even an interpretation. That's just what he said. That's exactly what happened That Sam Raimi had nothing to do with Is from the past and present Why not think we have something here that won't be volcanic cringe and yet with a very low expectation and an easy bar to clear In having one through line makes some sense. They failed quite spectacularly We've cycled through each of the rotten trees of the script Which means it's time to look at the putrid forests. They generate dr. Strange in the multiverse of madness is the 28th film in the marvel Cinematic failed abortion It sits alongside the events in phase four which so far have ranged from appalling to catastrophic with a highlight or two here and there It ignores every piece of surrounding context It's been built with while detonating its bowels each and every time it tries to develop anything itself So why not start with the widest context? I like how I can spend 20 minutes like Not really saying anything just like it's bad. So that wasn't 20 minutes Maybe about 20 seconds. You're just saying it's bad. Like that's all you said Yeah, well, I've also set my groundwork because this is how I usually do it We're starting with the I wanted to say everything is shit about it But let's start with the widest context being the world building I'm gonna go there and and that I when I said we went through the trees Now we're going to do the forest is I've given you all of the details Now I'm going to categorize them and tell you they represent the quality of the overall thing being plot character the world theme That's typically how I do it That that's just me introducing it But here's 50 words on why it's bad. That doesn't actually go into detail on anything So the details were in the first three hours and 40 minutes you skipped them Yeah The world seems to have simply not given a single shit about westview an event that made over a thousand people suffer Under the active will of a grief-ridden monster She terrorized these people with magic and we are to believe nothing has come of it. She was sorry defend it Do we need to see the exact result of westview? It doesn't really come up.  It's that it must It's relevant because dr. Strange is going to talk to wander about using her powers And the last thing she did when she used her powers was enslave an entire town And then ran away And also he is the like enforcer of like magic rules and stuff on earth That's like the point of the sorcerer supreme. Yep. He's like the guy in charge of that So yes, it should be relevant. It has to be Up i've been wanted being there Under the surveillance of an entire government operation and the stakes generated through that seem to have been forgotten He's telling me that no organizations or governing bodies cared to inspect anything to do with her nor did dr. Strange or the I'm certain there's impact from that, but it doesn't really come up here. That's my point That's the point. Yeah, like that it needs to come up here Dr. Strange is not some ethereal being that can't be seen or heard by the police. They know where he is So they he was the re that that's how they were going to bring him in Right, he gets made aware of it. So like the the idea that the government just they definitely want her There's just nothing that needs to be said about it or done about it and that he doesn't care about it either It's like no none of that makes sense. That's my point Sorcerer supreme. Well, that's great. We also have an entire world of heroes being completely absent Which is almost an expected failing on the part of this series now if they didn't well, yeah, that's that's how solo movies work Fun fact, and i'm not okay. So why is here we go? I told you he did this thing. Yeah Why is wong in this? Why is america chavez in this? Why is wander max? Because he's just a supporting character. Oh, but yeah, oh what? He's a supporting character like dr. Strange But america chavez is like her own character in the comics, right? She has her own comic book Well, i just said wonder And of course wonder had her own solo like show. Yeah, why is she in this if it's a solo movie? Why is why is fantastic mr. Fantastic in it? Why is he in it? Why is captain marvel? Or captain kata you expect heroes to jump in when they're in the multiverse promote That's that's even more reason for them to jump in And also like he could have called for their help before they went to the multiverse like when they plan on making their last stand At kamata when they had like a whole day to repair. Yeah, that's probably how to do it But also we do actually see a lot more heroes jumping in as a result of the multiverse as well It's a really weird point to make. Yeah Get them contractually then pretend they don't exist because that will be the reality with all that in mind We do nothing to help explain how the world is currently coming back from the blips dumping of billions of people. We have no idea You want them to explain the blip because they they've already did that no they haven't Definitely they did you see he cut himself off? Uh The first point he was gonna make would be how absurd it would be to explain the blip But then he was like actually no way a better point would just be they already did it Yeah, there's like neither of those where you figure it out in real time. Which one's the best one and it still didn't matter Yeah, they've not explained shit and they can easily explain what's happening with the blip while doing new stories You can do that. It's possible end game Oh, he thinks they explained it in end game. Oh, that's cute. Yeah So this is dr. Strange 2 and it has to cover every single element of the mcu Every single element of the world they exist in sure anything that affects them like I don't know billions of people dropping in on them randomly That feels like something that might happen Like come up once or twice reason Dear what the avengers as an organization even is if anything and we don't they they could just use the memory store for that Yeah, there you go. You can all get out all the memory stores of other characters need to be dialogue I mean, oh, yeah, that's pretty lazy dialogue as we've discovered. Yeah, I didn't mean to yeah We want to get our money's worth out of the memory store. Of course You know what dr. Strange means to the world despite how can you say he doesn't go into depth on why it's bad When you've been skipping around this poor guy in chat try and try to Inject some thinking in here I was lost here. What are you doing here intelligent superhero. Oh, micael. There is not a bid that EBS bid to the ammo era.   Come on. He doesn't know what to do with it because he's like I should have responded by now But I don't know how to even know you can't because it's just totally correct Yeah, it's I don't know if in case he doesn't grasp it. It's just like two beings the odds They're both in the same universe and they're the most significant elements to this story like Come on. There's something multiverse You should know the ability to travel the multiverse is something that's made clear is a brand new addition to the world Something america can do with her incredible unique powers and something forbidden in the pages of the darkhold Which up till now was lost to agatha However, the person who wrote this didn't give a shit about what happened in this world previously We knew this when the loki show tried to argue it jumped started the existence of the multiverse despite it already having been discussed and understood Maybe you started an uprising or we're just late for work Lead into another multiversal war to make sure that doesn't happen The time keepers created the tva and all its incredible workers once I isolated our timeline All I have to do is manage the flow of time and prevent any further branches You kill me and the sacred timeline is completely exposed multiversal war Yeah, except in dr. Strange. They were absolutely aware of such a thing beforehand. This universe is only one of an infinite number Dude, dude, do not understand Yeah, so like essentially they had it constrained to one universe But then once he was constrained all the universe has opened up.  I this is what I mean like He was he was like sighing at the clips at this point like it's not even me This is what my mom said not me Just explain the whole point was this is what Loki tells us, but dr. Strange the first film already acknowledged the multiverse Totally separate from the rules that were made up in Loki. That's the point.  Oh The problem is that it doesn't work. It can't work It can't make sense The notion of like making all of the timelines Into one timeline and then they start to split off later on like what is later? You know like in the nature of time that this timeline like this set of events plays out Well, and you have there always had to be a multiverse. They're always happy, right? The ancient one is like you want to know more about the multiverse? I you know, I can't teach you but it'll make your mind explode that sort of thing And then dr. Strange two well no way home. We know frighteningly little about the multiverse. Exactly. Wait what? Yeah We harness energy drawn from other dimensions of the multiverse some benevolent and life-giving Others filled with malice and hunger learning of an infinite multiverse includes learning of infinite dangers And if I told you everything else that you don't already know you'd run from here in terror Who are you in this vast multiverse? See all these clips relate to a knowledge of the multiverse. You cannot deny exactly Even knowing you don't know about it means that you know it exists They have since tried to retcon the character's attitudes toward the multiverse because phase five and phase six are going to revolve around it Multiverse is a concept about which we know Frighteningly little establishing now that sorcerers are just ignorance on the subject where it was said they absolutely were not Unfortunately in order to do this smoothly you need What have you got come on? What is it? Yeah, let's hear it. Let's hear it. I know what reference you're referring to when you talk about that thing You know, it's a very nitpicky. He's very That's it's it's the nature of the universe It's how the multi it's called the multiverse saga and they've changed the world's understanding of the multiverse in order to make it happen nitpick I guess I could you could call that an issue like if you oh my god Oh my god. We did it We did it everyone You did it He's acknowledged that there could be an issue with the worst movie we have ever seen It's the best we're gonna get for you. I'll take it He's I guess there's a door. I mean he's peeking inside. I'll take it. Yeah, I guessed it could be an issue I'll frame that put it on the wall I guess there could be an issue organized chaos You want to spend forever on it you can and like I know a lot of you guys are getting kind of annoyed with this I don't know how much longer They're annoyed because there's no content here.  He won't read negative. Yeah, we know he's not listen.  Yeah, that's definitely a case of me just not knowing what to do with the They're gonna keep on doing this thing where they they clip this guy out context Yes, it's out of context because it's funny It's like yeah, it's it's just like the the game of thrones one. Yeah, we kind of people We kind of forgot. Yeah. Yeah How can you say anything about taking things out of context when you skip to the section where you talked about the parents Just to see if he could use it against you Meanwhile ignoring all of the material before His stated goal is to take me out of context While ignoring a whole bunch of material that may well explain some of the points that you're making at these points in the video now Yeah, like points that are built up and agreed upon like in terms of how the plot works or the characters how they've been Um written so far So bad tactics. Um, I wish I knew what video he pulled this from so we could actually plot the context because it was probably just him Is him explaining that he had no idea what he was gonna do when he was making they were filming face Face to act to they're filming actor and they were talking about like how is act three gonna go and he basically says in this interview Yeah, I hadn't even I hadn't written anything for act three. I basically was at a point where I had no idea what to do Like that's awful. Yeah, the context is worse arguably worse I didn't know what to do, but then it all came together Wow, it all came together sure. Yeah Oh, yeah, it didn't end up being one of the most incoherent masses of a story I've ever seen in my entire life That's not what it was So there is precedent for the writer ignoring past continuity regarding the multiverse. Did he miss anything else? Perhaps in regard to multiversal travel anyone Well, if you want to get pissy about the multiversal thing, then wouldn't that be Loki's fault? He wrote that. Yeah, which he also wrote. Yeah, I guess he doesn't know that I think I said that didn't I? I could have sworn I said that at some point in this video He keeps skipping around so he's lost the context.  Yeah, he gets weird. I don't know. Leave me alone He nitpicks everything. It's not a review.  They even traveled through it.  No, it's it's What are you doing?  Yes This will serve you right. This will teach you Okay, so Alex lemma said the multiverse didn't exist until the events of loki until then the ancient one and others Weren't aware it existed, but then they did not noticing the change No, they specifically reference it. They talk about it. They say it by name I think what they're trying to say is the the events of loki change all the timeline in real time So technically speaking what we saw of the mcu was both before and after loki The way that you would make the argument is because there is all time from like beginning to end All time and then as soon as the multiverse begins It is unappreciable to the people who exist in it because of all the timelines branching The problem is what does that mean when avengers endgame must happen before the multiverse exists? It has to because that is the event that creates the the chain of events that creates the multiverse But then at that point you can down the road like what is the causality Of an event that happens at a point in time that affects all time and creates multiple universes And how do you have Before the events of loki everyone's talking about how they know the multiverse then after the events of loki You have doc strange saying we know frighteningly little how did that happen? Well, and of course because remember in endgame the ancient one Basically explains that if you remove a stone from the timeline the flow of time splits And it creates a new reality that everything is awful and it's like well, she was wrong What would have happened is she would have been killed by the tba Yeah, and the whole timeline would have been purged so she got it wrong She like what does it mean to have a capacity to understand anything about the multiverse when the multiverse doesn't exist for a huge portion of time like in the Chronology way too many references that conflict you can't wipe this away. It's impossible.  Don't defend it. It's it's completely borked. It's screwed. It's uh, it's like how did it happen? It's like well several writers wanted to write their own stories and that's what happened And no one said calm down Yeah, nobody said calm down Loki the amount of damage that loki did to the mcu was kind of incredible.  That's what happens Loki this doctor strange is following after loki and it's yeah that he wrote up in loki.  Well, he's reading in a weird voice, but let me get to the counter. Okay, then complain I'll talk about people's weird voices Wrong Imagine that was my normal voice I miss is the fake voice that you put on yes every after every e-fap you hit the offline button and you're like So that's not true at all this is the visual when describing the multiverse in doctor strange looks pretty familiar, doesn't it? Marble has at this point tangled up phrases so badly when referring to any given world that none of us have any clue What's going on?  Thank you for agreeing. Was it so hard? Why why do they why do they do this all the time 2 plus 2 equals 4? Uh 2 plus 2 equals 4 Okay, yep Yep Kind of like hop from one timeline branch to another. I can't risk this reality on a promise Multi-versal war draw power from the dark dimension in this vast multiverse You would enter a quantum realm. What does that mean? It means that you would enter a reality You're now inside the mirror dimension. Well, well the quantum realm isn't supposed to be like an alternate universe At least I didn't give them pressure. He said also the reality ultimate reality Well, but and as we now know with the trailer for atman Quantum, there is a whole universe in there. In fact, I'm pretty sure there's a line a hidden universe beneath ours That that's actually the line of nylon. Let me guess. They control everything too, by the way Well, it's kind of right.  We're the ones that did that Technobytes in size matters exactly.   What a shitty universe you've made when nothing makes any sense at all Quantum realm is this supposed to be like The yeah, it's supposed to be a different thing. That's all you've got. You're like, this is a thing is separated by a thing It's a different thing. Yeah, it's a different it's like a thing but different almost like the really really sub Microscopic universe. Oh, okay.  This is a concept about which we stop Frighteningly little we are now at the point of referring to each splintered thing as a new universe realm reality to mention world And or timeline They have no idea what they're doing evident in the defenses of this film as they refer to these worlds as timelines Meanwhile, the characters refer to them as universes as part of the multiverse It's near impossible to travel from one universe to another and loki You can kind of like hop from one timeline branch to another but you've got to be conquered to some original timeline No, you don't girl. Loki literally came from a world that got erased what she was angered She was spawned in a world that is now gone Exactly And what are you gonna say, buddy one of your timeline that the history line Sorry, is that she has no anchored world that she's just lost in the world of not having a home sort of thing Who got eaten by a purple fart dragon the world that loki came from has been erased as well Now that your actions have left you without a place on the timeline. You must stand trial for your offenses Well, yeah, because remember the whole stick is that if you aren't anchored to a timeline Wherever you go will cause branches. You got to go you got to go rid of you. Yeah Exactly talking about and you implying that the tv a can't travel the multiverse because if that's the case You probably shouldn't have called what they're traveling across the multiverse Yeah, that's definitely a case of me just not knowing what to do. The fact is marvel only recently He's really upset by that. Do you see that? Say something dammit. He's like, how dare you use that clip again that poor man Oh, look, we got an explanation in chat. They are all different things Oh, okay. Well, that's all right. We got it. All right.  All right.  It's all collapsed and worthless, but I guess collapsed is what he was saying I suppose Yeah writers do not care and it's going to make less and less sense as we progress through the phases Look, don't become a simp for this lord of the rings is right there.  So we got all that on top of introducing. Oh, yeah, we gotta take we take a shot rings of power guys. Fuck. Yeah Yeah That shows an abortion Uh, I wonder if he has videos thinking about rings of power. I'm sure he defends it thinks it's wonderful And this doesn't care about it at all just because it was the thing that's it was it all that culture war stuff We your side is picked for you. Meanwhile chat eFap watches the thing and then goes.  Huh I don't know. It's important. It's important. Okay I'm sorry.  Oh god Yeah, we're not gonna do this too much again. I would just be like, what do you want? What do you think someone should talk about in this movie? And then he would probably say something like you should talk about Steven's journey And what he had to go through and what he learned and I'd be like, right cool I can direct you to that part of the video. There is a part where I'll talk about that almost exclusively, you know But he skipped around and he's just like he hates everything he's seen Doesn't really disagree with a lot of it or at least he thinks he does and then agrees with it Sort of things. I don't know.   What was he doing at the end? All right, let's do it Okay Itch effort to show you guys how this kind of approach is going to fall apart eventually I can point to this wonder. I want to live happily ever after with my children strange. She gets america's power She could enslave the entire multiverse. What did you said that she wants to be with her children in another universe before this? How or where in her sentences did he find out that she's enslaving the entire multiverse? Why would she do that when she's already going for kids who are actually living well because she's prophesized to do So it's your destiny to destroy the world You see some viewers don't know about this because they didn't watch wonder vision and the writers forgot to reestablish it for the Context of this film That is air tight. What could you possibly have to say about this? I'm very curious Well, how much you need to reestablish they brought up west view and The stakes of the end of the world stakes of the end of all of the worlds That might be worth reestablishing and they really did that could exist They got they got they made it halfway, but they didn't explain to the audience how they know this information It would have taken an extra three words We know this from the dark.  Yeah, Christ. Just say it's from the dark hole. That's all they needed to do But they forgot and so people haven't seen wonder vision I I should have enhanced this a little further in the video. It is a bizarre experience.  Where the hell did you get that from? When when did this become a thing scarlet where she was cool? She was a hero. Why is she now prophesized to destroy the world? When did this happen?  You should have seen the show How dr. Strange isn't interesting going into west view. He just wants her help You write reality she chooses And it's prophesized to either rule Or annihilate the cosmos. You see they almost had it, but they forgot to mention that's from the dark hole This confuses people to the point of some average viewers failing to understand the stakes of the entire story But this isn't shocking when we find out how the script was made a practice that should have been abolished Yet has become industry standard for marvel at least an embarrassing recanting of a comedy of errors with little time For errors to even be committed yet the team crammed just about as many failures into the screenplay that was humanly possible It's all so amateur. It drives me nuts. He spent so much time not even really saying anything. Just essentially I don't like this. I don't he could that's all you said was he didn't like it Even it's amazing to see it live in action You know, yeah, like there was even times where he conceded the point was accurate Or he would accidentally concede it by agreeing with me with by thinking he's disagreeing like So I already know that you think there's accurate points in here, man Literally just repeating the phrase over and over again. I don't like this. I don't like this. I don't like this I don't like this. Is there anything wrong with that? I mean, aren't you guys like in favor of the whole video being that I guess Do I like what if I if I go as far as saying I don't like this is inconsistent and I don't like that This is inconsistent.  Here we are the script is entirely beholden to every possible influence other than the story It's a perfect representation of the transfer We have made from writing being the foundational element that binds a viewer's heart to the material to the visuals Hopefully distracting the viewer from the writing that would otherwise compel the viewer to set this shit on fire The script is now playing 10th fiddle and as the projects progress the writing becomes this Disrespected dilapidated mountainous collection of corrosive slime that they constantly have to run away from Oh, so there's an EVS video on discord Mikhail. Okay. Yeah, I will I will check that out. Um after this There's no use in saying the sludge pipes are bursting open. We're in the sludge ocean now We are well into this era and the only raft I Okay, I don't I don't really There's nothing really to say at this point except he's just nitpicking every God damn thing.   You just seem to keep defying like every time that you say one thing He has to say the opposite Like there was only one point where he said I guess that's an issue. That's the most that you got.  So like I want to give this guy's patreon I have to go as far as saying thank you for the promotion I guess because like that really didn't do anything for anybody who like anybody who hates me already Obviously, it'll make no difference, but anybody who didn't know anything about me They must be like, well, I mean you didn't really I guess I just find it astounding that he watched that where like at the very least He would have to acknowledge that it was a video that was obviously written And had a bunch of editing with references that were relevant to what you were saying And then he's like doing this.  He can look at that and be like, yeah, man. That's way better This is much better material that I'm creating here I'll show him Okay, let's go back to this because this thing has How many views? 2.1 million views I'm sorry 2.1 you have 2.1 million views Do they actually watch I would love to see the analytics do people actually watch this whole thing Well more eventually I mean, so the retention time for this video is the most I have ever had for any video It's uh, it was like I think the highest it was an hour and one minute or something for the average That's legitimately impressive That's crazy The fucking chore Well for you, I thoroughly enjoy it because I have But I mean, I you know what man like I feel like you entered into it with a really bad attitude I think you entered into it believing that it was gonna not not only believing that it would be shit But that it had to be it must be terrible It had to because I think it's evident in the fact that you skipped to a portion of the video that you thought was going to be Hyper cringe or something so that you could use it again Like it's so evident that you came into this with like the worst attitude possible And he didn't even get what he wanted. No, he didn't get what he wanted. That's true like I Literally I can make the same video five hours of me saying I don't like this repeatedly You would get almost all the exact same information. He's all right. That's what it is He literally thinks that all you did was say that you didn't like it. That's insane I was a possible when he was agreeing or disagreeing with my representation of the facts Exactly It means that you were there were things that you were countering that there were references that you agreed with their interpretation Or you thought that they were wrong Because the reality is that you can there's so many times when people would be like It's just a long-winded way of saying I didn't like it or it's just different ways of saying I didn't like it But the reality is that the ways that you say I didn't like something kind of matter You know what you say Is less important than how you convey what references you use to support it? Why? Oh, okay. Okay. I know uh Nothing but media want to talk about this. So oh boy Oh, that's the guy from the chat. Oh, that's the guy in the chat with the yellow The dialogue that uh, the guy was wrong about almost everything you said Yeah, my discord. Oh, this is it. What a privilege that we get to see him live in concert. Yeah Well, his voice is very kind of saying I wonder if that's his normal voice or if it's something he puts on descending I'm still that bad. Is it? Like all the criticisms like it's condescending like Okay, I mean I'm not going to review his voice That would that's unnecessary. That would that would be a little yeah, because at this point now that we're 53 minutes in Like you got to work on that man. Like that's what I said to him That's what I legitimately said and my videos is like listen. You can work on it. You really can You can practice and you can change it your voice is horrific and you can do something to change it you could You definitely don't have to speak that way. You don't nobody's exactly Like he definitely is putting some sort of effect on it Uh, well to be fair on it So Not ironically if I if your voice was being used for a character in a cartoon show, I would have said like they're putting that on That's not a normal voice Yeah, probably I'm sure that debbie dairyberry doesn't go around actually sounding like jimmy neutron. Yes. Um But yeah It's a so It's hard to read the text for your chat when like you're putting up white text against a pretty bright Like a pretty light color, uh wool I could still make it out. We're all right Quite frankly. I'm glad I've never watched this content before because that was So bad. I can't believe how bad It was for somebody who supposedly does this for a living You said that writing you said that dialogue was like a shitty means of like conveying a story compared to Showing the memory store because the memory store is visual Also, what do you mean supposedly does it for a living? Think I'm lying He does do it for a living. Look at the he he got two million views on the video I mean like he pretty has a very successful plot supposedly rags.  I got you pegged I know you the way that he said it is that he had a theory before he'd even watched any of your videos Because he said like 20 seconds before that this was the first video he'd watched Of you yet somehow he'd managed to cultivate theories about your attitude or your approach or your objectives Even watch it you watch someone else watch it in pieces.  Yeah, exactly and and completely It seems to be which is the theory I've always had about these guys is They are so focused on plot that they cannot Think are outside of any other storytelling other than purely What is in the dialogue? Oh, so like is that the way that you're trying to recontextualize your amazing insight that like dialogue is like presidential storytelling And also like dialogue isn't necessarily plot. It's also character. Well, how do I review anything that was Basically character by definition. It's necessarily definition character, right? It drives the plot it moves forward the plot and it can explain elements of the plot But like it's it's it's kind of it's kind of funny, right? Like he's trying to latch on to his dialogue Point is if that was a really good one Well, how do I review anything in a scene that's not dialogue then because I've done it before How did I how did I pull that off? Exactly How did I talk about what it meant and what like this is just um This is the problem like this is genuinely a guide to these people in future I've done it. So when you say this it means nothing to anyone who's seen my videos and likes them in any way she performed You're not convincing anybody of anything because it just doesn't make any sense Like oh, this is their problem. They only ever talk about dialogue Even though I mean is it dialogue when you talk about the floaty boots. Was that dialogue? Yes Was it dialogue when you talked about using specific spells? Yes, because you cast them sometimes dialogue when you talked about the cat jumping out the Like the undead cat jumping out to munch on the the car He's too retarded He needs to the the upgraded criticism from this that a lot of people use is that we take everything too literally We can't think exactly too literal you can't it still is criticism We loads of subtext and abstract thinking for uh, yeah Storytelling but at the same time it's better than saying we only focus on dialogue like what even Like come on dude.    Yeah Um though that will come up if ever he uses a spell that would have been super useful in a different situation That he just didn't use and then he forgets to yeah exactly But like that's the context for that one. So yeah, you're making this up your fighting ghosts So how on earth is that a criticism not one of mine It's not like Or maybe he does one sort of superman introduction from the TV show faster than a there's christ ways. What's moving him around so much What are you doing and also like is he actually about to say that he If that man's moved in years one of the biggest one of the first points of criticism was like that a character basically declared Look plot critical object And you were pointing out it's like, huh? Why would you say that like well because I love me some dialogue I want it over and what you need is you need you need them to say faster than a speeding You know bullet for superman. I need it. I need them to list out every spell he has right at the beginning And then I see them. I don't get surprised. He doesn't know who you are Like he watched one video that was jump like jumping around to different points because this guy was trying to look for specific Dunks on you and he's like, I've got a complete character assessment of you Bullets et cetera et cetera. Um before we do any more criticism though. I thought I'd better put on my critic certain glasses.  Oh, wait. Why is he wearing sunglasses indoors when He's making fun of people who do Okay, all right. I'm sorry.  Just listen to Yeah, nice Before we do any more criticism though. I thought I'd better put on my critic certain glasses. Yeah Nice Nice This is how you would generate the seed in like like a 40 year old virgin movie Wait, wait, wait.  Yeah, it's that vibe So, uh, oh Any of that let alone the whole Six hours. Okay. Well, you better start figuring it out in good faith because two million people watched it and a Oh, no bots. So you need to start thinking about why people are receptive to that if you want to start more being more persuasive Like that's your goal So when he said, you know, like, oh, he said he didn't see the spell before therefore bad How was that criticism someone in chat said what part was that?  I can't actually see anything That's because your walls are black.  You can't even maintain the joke Oh, well, he's got a white ceiling rags. Does that not count for something? He's got a white ceiling black. I think so Anyway, what's going on with the He's put up against the wall. It looks like he's got a ripped green screen glued to the ceiling It's a little that's what he's gonna activate right now. Like why is it chopped out that portion? What's going on? Oh It was just for for a joke but yeah, it's Like when you when you were saying about the memory thing. Yes, it's a little bit clunky. Yeah, but a little bit clunky It's the clunkiest thing It's the clunkiest clunk that ever clunked it's Well established in in in film that if you've got it's well established well established in film Was that even mean? Yeah, bad things are very well established in film. I agree. Don't do them You can't compare it to like when homo has a has a like a memory when he goes to the land of chocolate You know and then it does a little then it's his little dream. This is different This is a memory store that you can go to The universe replays memories.  Yeah, it replays them on a hologram for you to watch literally I don't know like I need him to tell me what is more clunky than that Yeah, a character literally falling asleep and then reliving a memory is less clunky than that Exactly. It is less clunky. It's less clunky than the comeback zinc guy who was asleep and then that was the dream And then he realized that he still lived in a world with zinc Visually interesting so that um you can't make it visually interesting and I like to the memory store I like the implication if we take it in the broader context of his weird dialogue complaint There are ways that you can make dialogue more like dialogue working in tandem with interesting cinematography can have some really cool results You know like like as if like dialogue is totally divorced from the visual aspect of the medium Like what do you focus on? Which character are you showing? You can have one character talk and you're just focused on the reaction of the other character And that's a choice that you're making to show information I mean that's an easy one right like where one character is talking but you focus on one character's reaction We had a lot of examples of that in god of war and ragnarok where we deliberately omit The face of one character while focusing on the expression of another Even if the character that we can't see is talking because it's interesting to have the dialogue Juxtaposed against the reaction and also having your imagination fill in the gaps as to what the reaction will be I want to you bring that up When when Thor gets in heimdall's way And he says oh, what are you gonna do? He says look into my eyes.   Whatever. It's like no.    You're not interesting On one more video he spent two minutes reviewing a gun instead of a movie I don't even know what that's talking about. When did I review a gun? But two minutes. That sounds pretty short for me to review a gun. Yeah, it's only two minutes Especially if the gun is very important to the plot. Was it the drastic work?  Oh, yeah, the laser thing.   Yeah Forget the exact term for it But if you've got two characters talking and originally in the script you set it around a kitchen table. It's not very interesting Okay, that's just how that works could be Could be interesting. No, it's not interesting. It's not yes because he's read all the books And he is totally mired. I can already tell that So, well, no, you know what? No, because he jumped the gun on judging you. So I'll give him a shot You haven't Had brain rot in terms of all of these rules about writing that you don't understand. All right, you don't let I'll give you a chance Buddy walking down the street make it a little more interesting. That's basically what they yeah No, I he's right. All dialogue scenes should take place on a roller coaster. I think so in motion It's more interesting than around it again 12 angry men is 12 people in a room with a table between them And it's way more interesting than this film where they're going all of these crazy Universes and I'll have all of these Super duper heroes and everybody That doesn't make sense Man, I hate it because it's just I love the idea of two people in a room talking And that's the whole film and then that somehow ending up being really interesting because of what they have to say Could you imagine if you like presented that to me and you were hoping for me to give input on You know What is learned from beginning to end and like the arcs and the dial is up and I just go Could you maybe take him outside walking? Yeah, put him outside have him walking around that would be more interesting And then you're like, well, that's not written I'm like because like in the background you could see things different things describe different things and stuff Instead of just having this room. Why did you put them in a room, dude?  I would hazard a guess That he really likes or says that he really likes a lot of older films based on I'm not quite sure what film that is on the poster there. Is that is that like Casablanca or something? The one that he's got up there. I don't know that looks like it's from an old film I can't make it out whatever it is.  You know, he likes a lot of older films And I was like, you know a lot of those older films like in terms of their scope Didn't go as crazy as a lot of the films that are made now where they're jumping all of these different universes And I've got these crazy wacky zany things happening But like surely we would all agree that a lot of those older films have like tons of merit in their writing Because of what they're trying to achieve and what they're going for like scope Does not determine how interesting a story is. It just doesn't Not um What battles me is the review last longer than the actual movie and you might be thinking Well, how long should it last if you go up is an actual another quote that says a review needs to be at most 30 minutes There you go. Oh, I All right. Yeah, yeah cool, yeah I just uh, I'll have to make a note that I should just start collecting all these every time someone tells you How long a thing should be and then just have all of them to compare Well, I mean this guy's review of your video is longer than 30 minutes.  Is the general rule. Yeah, again, it's possible Yeah, you don't understand what show don't tell even is Why I kind of hate uh When the characters talk to each other and the subtext comes through and the information that they choose to give or omit Or how they say it that is not telling that is showing it's showing in their reactions It's showing them what they've chosen to say versus what they've chosen to omit It's not oh, I see it. That's good Yeah, which is I mean having the memory store is telling it's just like it is telling This is what happened in their life moving on. Yep. Oh, exactly Don't want to do that Like I said, we were given examples earlier of like how to do it if you have your mask like, you know So what happened like do you have family like where are they and then she just like looks away or says something dismissive And it's like, hmm We can then draw like is there something something about that event? Is there something that happened she's feeling in a particular way about that then later on when you get more information You're like, oh that makes that makes more sense now The standard stuff was shown something that gives you an inkling About piecing her together but Nine times out of 10 that's what you want to do nine Oh nine times and I know for a fact that some of the Legitimate criticism of the film was that the early introduction to america Where she talks with strange and wong. They're just sitting in a diner Yeah, and that was used as a criticism. Oh, no It was used as a criticism that they were sitting in a diner. It's not that they're in a diner It's that they shouldn't be in public after he's just done all of that and he's a superhero and they need to save This girl from yeah, exactly. It's not that they're in a diner More on it's like, oh that would be boring put them on the roller coaster. Let's go And because oh that's not very visually interesting my god Holy shit It's one of the big things that people will point out about that makes edgarite films interesting Is that he can take something that is incredibly mundane and make it look cool and interesting Absolutely paperwork in hot fuzz. It's paperwork And you'd be like, oh paperwork is so boring and then he has all of these cool zooms and you know And all of these shots and the montage and the flashes to just try and make it more interesting And it's a joke. It's funny It's not and oh, it's everything dude like uh when when angel's talking to the three Sort of levels of superiors to him and whenever he would arrives It's always edited in such a slick way and it'll like begin like it's it's almost like High stress and fast, but then they'll just be like, hello, nicolas. How's the hand like every time Yeah, like really welcoming and shit whether the environment here is whether or not he's fired like There's so much happening in everything not just like the The way it's shot the way it's cut or the way it's uh sound edited at this the dialogue and the performances everything This guy's like they were in a diner I I I bet you you show him the every frame of painting video on edgarite and how he talks about you know What one film shows how does a character move from one location to another and it's just a bunch of like Uh Second unit photography writers when they just send people out in the helicopter to shoot like a city And then the shots from left to right as the car is like moving Yeah, and it's it's just like that's boring. Meanwhile in hot fuzz. It's like the flashing of specific imagery Uh showing uh angel's reaction as he's moving and then like finding opportunities to throw jokes in there Like when he's sitting there waiting for the train He's sleeping and then boom as the train like goes past. Yeah and showing that he's moving away from it's It's it's in how you do it more so than what it is I I thought we all knew that I thought we all knew that yeah Especially when what's his name all about media or like nothing but yeah, yeah All you do apparently. I don't know.   What? I mean, I've certainly never seen anything like it, but I know Just because something's novel doesn't mean it's good We are one step away from the film literally pausing Michael Waldron walking onto the screen and being like Dr. Strange is upset here because he's got an unrequited love for christine He can't get that satisfaction with her because she's not interested in him because of his flaws as a character that he's developed Over time he actually did have a relationship with her back when he was a doctor But that that sort of environment was was also promoting this So to speak always holding the knife dynamic where he just can't let himself be in any kind of danger or any risk He has to be in control and it actually runs down into the relationships he experiences And so that's what's causing a lot of this and and we'll see that develop later Thank you and then walks off the screen and it presses play and this guy is like, you know what? That was pretty novel. I've not seen that before that's kind of cool And hey and make sure that the audience gets the point, you know Because a lot of people can miss it and it's visual storytelling because he was on screen Like Isn't it incredible? It's brain dead.  It is brain dead.   Can someone just define it? Please we just like you do that once nobody ever used it.   They thought it was such a weird though So But talking about the how the memory thing works, I assume it has the same sort of safe search filters that Showed because clearly it doesn't it obviously doesn't a child experiencing the death potential of their parents That's a safe search. Yep How can you say that with a straight face?  What are you doing? And to be honest with you?  You can't just project that to the world It needs to show memories that are funny, you know, not like traumatic and personal It needs to like it shouldn't even show any memories at all. Yeah, no, it shouldn't exist.  Oh my god. I can't be literally. Yeah, I mean they didn't get it.  Yeah, it could be. Sorry, man. One day. Maybe you'll learn like I just assume it just doesn't show those memories, especially it did show something that should not be shown It did. Yeah, you're just stumbling on. I love the idea that they're like, well better troopers fight the sex come on now safe search But yeah Yeah, exactly. It will have a privacy filter of something.  Don't you worry like what? Yeah And Also another thing that he pointed out the idea that america now she has control of her powers Yeah, go and get her parents. Yeah. Well, no because she doesn't know where they are. Yeah, she she doesn't have to Do you know where and also how did she know where dr. Strange and pristine were how could she have known that? Well, good thing. Uh, this is the part that I actually was watching at the end to make sure I clipped it right But I pop in the clip. Mm-hmm. That's the whole point Not only can she not control her powers. She can't all that ever So she sent them to a multiverse and she doesn't know which one she sent them to Well, she knows specifically that I'll find you And I mean that yep she found him man She can do it awkward that huh? That's a little awkward. It's all right.  And so now that I'm accurate you have to concede that it's a good point You can't say it's an it's a nitpick or that you don't care. You have to now say I'm accurate and that's cool You won't Like you won't do it That's a sci-fi trope as old as time Doesn't matter if it's a trope I care if it's a trope. I care if it's good or not.  Good tropes can stay What what he's even talking about there's a trope of her She can't control her power. It's like but she can it's like okay, but it's a trope that she can't it's like but she can What are you doing? I thought the whole point as you said was that now she can is it not the point anymore? Well, yeah, that was that was uh, I was oc's That she can yeah tv series sliders. Yes. I remember okay neat that you watched a tv show Early 2000s, I think now it was 90s Was it 90s? I know this is an impact, but I just love the uh early 2000s the 90s. Oh late 90s mid 90s That's an awkward. Yeah There is a lack of chemistry here. Uh, that's all that means. It's just Significant bouts of silence and not much development on either person's point. It sort of just ends like you said that Also, whenever he talks, he has that horrible background noise. I'm assuming you guys pick that up Yeah, I mean they also understood the multiverse a lot better than mohler who uh, Yes, there are obviously going to be some problems when you're telling a continuing story. Oh, thanks. You agree with me then? Cool Yeah, all right. Yeah, obviously there are problems that are highlighted in the movie great some continuity issues but also there's the Yeah big time You'll get me weird concept of if you learn new information about something the old information Not is not true anymore. So oh, so that's that creates an issue if the old information is That we know about something and the new information is we don't ever knew about something How do you square that one? Well, you just do that's kind of the old information was not good That's all we have to say. They lied they lied about how they didn't actually know about it By the way with that explaining it. He's just justified breaking everything like he's just like Just be right old stuff. It's fine.  You just overwrite it. It's like you're painting a wall Just just paint over it. It's fine. The old stuff disappears Brilliant It's wrong got it wrong or all the other sources got it wrong and what they were describing as them See how he had to It's you can't screw it was being like it was just the ancient one Which by the way, good luck trying to argue the ancient one got everything wrong about how portals The big person in charge of understanding all the magic but All of them got it wrong everyone in the source This is never acknowledged by the way nobody ever talks about how I was like, oh man, isn't it weird? How he because michael doesn't even know he doesn't know that he's contradicted it No, he doesn't realize his mistake pretty much the multiverse wasn't the multiverse Um, it's also possible.   I don't know how many this works So I guess you still agree with me. We don't even know why so that point or they hadn't planned to do the Loki series Yeah, uh, I can't I can't believe how much they appealed to the matter It's like they didn't you know it's so much all the time They didn't know when they were making avengers that they would end up making endgame the way that it was So yeah, maybe there's some things that contradict it like Oh That's helpful That's very likely but yeah, you know, I mean that's probably more likely when you do a series like this. It happens all the time in the compost It's very common.   They think they're trying to fight on the turf of how much does it matter? All I've done is point out that it was there They agreed with me on that much and that's all I ever want people to to uh, sort of move on I never want to try and make them agree on the exact amount of impact it has There's dude and all that there was an impact of some kind. Yeah, which they seem to have so there you go Well, yeah, and it It's like comic books have constantly Retroactively changed the continuity. Okay to a point. Is that okay? It became an expression to retcon stuff You know and before that books did and before that when they scribbled on tablets telling some stories They probably retcon that too.   This is new information. So the old information is useless now The new one takes over and you wow You good at this So, um I mean, I think that's perfectly acceptable But like I said if you really wanted any universe explanation Like he goes through the list of the different timelines the multiverse different dimensions, etc, etc They're all valid from a perspective of they all describe different things They all describe different oh do go on he's not gonna be able to go further than that Like they are different things. What do you mean? They are different things. Uh, they're they're they're different So you can have different dimensions And you can also have different universes. Yeah, and you're just saying the thing again. Yeah, that's what yeah This is all in my view. So you said when yeah, this is something that we Know in our own universe the concept of the multiverse As described in loki is that for every decision you make the other decision is made in a different universe What do you mean? This is something we understand in our own universe Multiverse theory, I guess I guess the the real theory of it. I don't know why like loki makes very specific and strange rules with the tv a and shit, you know Exactly like that. But that's basically it Like sliding doors Again 90s film, but the idea is that funny The film exists in the night In case anyone does no sliding doors the film about how a guy I think he's trying to get onto a train and uh The doors No, there's a train At least I thought it was a train because the the doors, you know, like sliding doors being the doors on the elevator Fuck train clothes and um He's in one timeline. He gets onto the train and in the other the doors closed And then I think he ends up meeting someone that he would have otherwise not and they have like a whole life together Uh, both films run at the same time. Basically, you see the two results.  So I don't know what it means They they're not ready to deal with it Their version of ken has solidified one timeline to stop crossing Over there can only be one king You imagine the amount of tva agents you'd actually need to trim all of the timeline You'd have you need an infinite amount yeah No joke, but apparently they're a force that is Of a limited number and regularly like has food and chills out like they're all they're all submitted to sort of limitations I guess is what I'm saying but um, that doesn't mean that the The ancient one for example wouldn't know about multiverses Because she would have been aware of the multiverse war that took place Guarantee you she was she would have She was yeah the multiverse war. Why would you how can you so confidently say that she was aware of the multiverse war? Like what is that ever mentioned? The only person who's aware of that is going to be kang and then that video that plays to the tva That's the only source of information you can have for the multiverse war because the whole thing was erased All the people involved in that war are all gone Yeah, someone had to have brought that information out which is which is kang It's just when you nitpicked up this far. It's just it's not gonna work It's you like how he didn't build on anything like I just said Nope, he didn't.  It's dead Yeah, that's just sort of that thought died Conversation ended. No, I don't see anything standing up. We're gonna nitpick it. I'm sure they're oh man There's a lot. Sorry that you haven't watched good movies. Yeah You think that if this was your job, you'd seen some good movies, but I guess I guess you haven't There's continuity errors in that movie tune. He probably spent like a half hour on each and every one of those but I'm sure pretty much my whole thing is continuity All right And I've I've made this point elsewhere.  What you'll find is that when you try and pick it apart.  Oh, that's neat that that line of dialogue got reincorporated later on Oh, it's interesting how like this particular framing of this scene, you know, like that sort of accentuates The power of this moment you have to like good films get better when you start to get into the details That's the cool thing about good movies is that the more that you get into them like the little details You start to realize how intentionally crafted it was You have to meet them on their level when You make a theoretical movie and let's say they engage with good faith on this you go Okay, so you guys in a room one of them says I really need to go get a coffee and the other one says All right, I'll wait here and then the guy leaves because door What's wrong with that scene? They're not going to be able to pick anything continuity wise. They'll go it's boring. There you go I've nitpicked it to death You're like, oh, we we have a different understanding of what was happening here when I said, you know He should have used his floaty boots I'm trying to establish that he is the person who's invested in living and performing the best sort of options at the time Like would use the abilities I've seen him use before So that this is like this is an inconsistency. I'm not saying I'm bored. I'm not in describing a feeling I'm having Like and if you it sounded like you were saying you can do this to everything But you can't do that to everything Exactly say it to make yourselves feel better Yes If you're coming at it from a point of wanting to nitpick it there's no such thing as a perfect film I'm coming in wanting to do things. Oh, yeah, I'm a perfect scene Isn't that possible? I guess it's not a line of dialogue Yeah, because once once you say that you can have a perfect scene Then obviously it's possible to have consecutive perfect scenes that tell a story and so now the perfect movie exists Yeah, even if you don't want to say we don't we don't have that it's theoretically possible Absolutely Absolutely not and then we'd have to get into the discussion about what a flaw is and yeah, they are not ready to talk about that But no go on no, I was just kind of saying if you had any did you have anything to add? He's already burned him off everything that I just everything I just said but uh Oh, like I think this guy's looking for having like a conversation But organized chaos just brought him on to bitch about me and then leave like just He's not even listening to a man I mean, I'm obviously not a fan of this person that he's brought on but you know I'm gonna give him some basic respect The only last thing I would say is some of the things that he said that were criticisms as well Is this character said this but then this happened that said that didn't cover it or whatever What do you mean when the character says something? That is their perspective. They can either be lying or they can be wrong So I agree. So I really need to know what you mean. Yeah, what what what example are we talking about? Oh, yeah It drives me not to me act like when a character like says something somehow that's like concrete or something Like when she holds man, how many times can you say something?   Oh, wow, you've totally misread that your media See is bad 100% in the right. They would definitely this show is on her side for episode one. Yeah And it never came up again. So if you're referring to a lot of people said by the time the show's over They will correct what she said about bruise. She will realize she was wrong. They didn't All right In fact, the the the finale was if anything are doubling down on just how correct she is about everything That she breaks the confines of her reality To rewrite a story that's beneficial to her and how she's a better writer than the writers and everything and the robot Yeah, sorry, you're gonna have to take the L.  So clearly the story is telling you she's right.  Yes by presenting no counters Yeah, it's just having to be right. Yeah You also see this when they talk about themes and they'll bring up a theme as if When when a villain says it it's like, you know, villains don't typically say your theme Can you please provide me villains don't typically say your thing Just an example that was in this video of what you saw He definitely didn't get that from he must be talking to someone else's because like what what are you? What is the reference there? The villain said the theme We haven't even we we didn't get he said villains don't typically know it's not your thing Well, but but he's saying like so uh, he's he's This hypothetical thing he saw was someone grabbing the theme from something a villain said and that his response to that is You don't typically get the theme from the villain Because that's already wrong Like as in the it's nothing wrong. We're getting the theme from the villain. That's that's more than possible Yeah, absolutely. In fact, I'm gonna go as far as say it by actually Yeah, like the village is oftentimes supposed to represent the opposite side of the theme. Exactly. Yeah. Yep That's that's usually not the point of the villain What what why do you mean that's see it's a meta thing again is usually not the point of the villain Even though it often is the point of the villain Like genuinely to both of them you need to expand your minds on writing like this is lame This is really amateur shit This is this is way too limited way too limited. Sorry. There's loads of limits everywhere. Why are you doing this? Like so many things can't be a particular way because you know them to not be that's it Yeah, well, I know I noticed one thing in that video where he says oh agatha says that she's going to destroy the universe No, no, it's not about agatha. It's about it's in the dark hole It's the yeah, it's specifically that the dark hole prophesies that That one is going to destroy the universe, which is the base at the multiverse Which is the basis for dr. Strange saying the same thing Yeah, I never even commented on whether or not that has to be true or false or that it's bad The agatha is I never even said the agatha lied or that she was right.  I didn't say wow the dark holds is like They've they've bucked continuity because the dark hold is supposed to be accurate. I think I just said the dark hold was wrong then Which is fine. The dark hold can't be wrong. I don't know anything about that. I don't know if that breaks anything I don't know who wrote the dark holds some demon or whatever Like, okay, fine. What I was trying to point out was that they failed to mention where the prophecy was read from Yep, and if it's in the dark hold, it's kind of important seems like it'd be a big deal and they wouldn't be people confused Exactly. Yep. Agatha could be lying to manipulator. No, she's what?  What do you mean? What do you think agatha lied to wong? Stephen Strange in the film says she could enslave the entire no wong Okay, I've got the clip in this actually. I don't even need to say this universe That means he understands the power that she is tapping into Scarlet witch is a being of unfathomable magic. It's prophesized to either rule Or annihilate the cosmos so either rule or annihilate the cosmos binary a binary Yeah, and then dr. Strange says after that I didn't put the clip in but I guess I should have of the he says Uh, she enslaved an entire town. She could enslave the multiverse Like what he's saying is she has that power and the dark hold as you just heard from wong says she will Yep All of this given this information Why are you so bad at watching movies? like come on Not paying attention to know you know you paying attention for the irony to character motivations I'm sorry. Let me know. What is the motivation of agatha harkness to have constructed a fake book to lie to wong about wander When does that what is that a thing? When was that? I don't remember that.  Uh-huh. Sometimes some stuff is done just because it looks cool Oh, you mean like I said that's good about the zombie thing. I said that it looks cool in my own video I said, yeah, it looks real cool. It looks cool. Even if it contradicts. Yeah, I go into how it all doesn't make any sense But hey, at least it looked cool Yeah, absolutely. No, there's plenty of stuff done just because it looks cool and Yeah, you could nitpick.  I've said all you guys have said You got nothing. You got nothing. You don't got anything else. Yeah Yeah, maybe that will be the substitute for an argument eventually Maybe one day given enough generations and millions of years it will evolve into an argument But until then it ain't well, I gotta say stuff I didn't try to even do an hour of it, but that was that was a lot We did an hour of you pal It was tough. We got through it. It was really it indicated everything I want. We tried to pay attention to what you were saying And the same can't be said of you. We gave you more attention than you deserve Well, I mean the fact that I've got this Clips edited into this already is just more effort than you would ever put into your listening to me Oh, it's just low effort.  Well, yeah, jeez.  Oh, this does not want to give me an example What you would show in the video. That's not the case at all. I'm just curious for example. It looks like you might have one Yeah, give me an example Oh It was the same point from a different perspective Oh, this doesn't make sense because this character in a previous film said this That's not a different perspective. That's referencing older Material in the story. Well, you already accounted for that. He said if it's old, it's not important anymore Yeah, we take it right paint on the wall just roll right over it Why would they do this or just getting character names or actors names wrong on purpose?  I'm just like, well, that sounds like a compliment, but I'm having yeah All right That's because that is a really hilarious joke that hasn't been done better elsewhere I think name three people who did it better. I don't even know what I'm sorry. I didn't Come down.  You guys know what fun is, right?  God, please just you killed him killed his he'll never recover He probably really likes those memes too. That sounds like the kind of mean that I will just embrace And I used to know I ruined it Oh now that Mahler's done it. I don't want anyone to do it. He's ruined the joke. Wait a minute. I thought the Organized chaos his thing Didn't he have I thought it was a small change. Yeah in the top right left is it's a different window It's been replaced with the different one now. We changed it. It's in a better area but a different logo in a Different place, but it's like still the the the chat is still like, you know, I mean like I still such Yeah, it's still it's Yeah, it's messed up in a different way now. You know what? It's perfect because it's how is the text and it's vaguely organized Look at it. Look. How is the icon of the person in front of organized, but the text is behind chaos Organized and chaos must be on like different layers Right. Yeah, the top of the the chat. You see like it's above Well, I guess it's peel. No way that could just be no, it's about both of them. It's above both. Yeah It is above both. Oh, okay Why would you have it? Oh, okay? I see it because it's widened off that all right If you're gonna do this the logo should be above the the chat Yeah, you're catching me above It shouldn't but if you're gonna do it like this, it should like Disappear into the logo rather than onto it and then disappear, you know Very strange. I'll need to do that weird because it's it's the best joke ever without a doubt and I'm not being sick of it at all All right. Sorry. It doesn't appeal to you organized Next time I will design my comedy around you organized chaos.  What shout out your channel Yeah, I'm nothing but media on youtube. I review Mostly old tv at the moment, but also some old films No, there you go. He does like old films But I'm sure there's not enough roller coaster scenes in them though to justify it. I guess as well and Uh, for the most part, I'm positive about them even if I do have criticisms to make about them You understand that just implies you don't like me because I'm negative about stuff Yeah, it's a weird implication there of like I'm actually positive about things like okay I have videos that are positive about media. You guys just don't want to look at them Yep, they're there. Yeah, because I was remember he was baffled that there was even an unbridled praise like is that Positive how dare not an hour Well over an hour ago, but an hour ago in this video at least Well, it's the same energy when he sees that you have a praise video that matches how he felt when you didn't make fun of the lesbian moms He's like, oh shit. Fuck. Yeah. He's like damn it. That goes ruins the how I wanted to paint him And I'm just trying to reinforce it to come on because that video really annoyed me and thank you for Me a bit too. I was just like he just keeps on going. I'm just you guys I'm impressed you go through it You made it wrong. You're courageous They had all those examples like they wrote down like this makes me appreciate when destiny is writing notes when people are talking Right. Yeah But when people are talking he's writing his notes down. He's getting his points Like you guys can do that, you know, while even if it's a live stream You can like write little notes. You could use a I got a notepad right here You could use a notepad on your computer.  I hope I hope that doesn't happen.  So it's not really a loss, is it? Thanks, Bob. I'll I'll go back to uh watching your stream. All right. Oh, yeah, it's very good. This is really good content You see this is some good proper content unlike that multiverse of madness video that moller did with all of his references and clips And logic. Yeah, thank you. All right. Have a good one. Thanks for coming on All right Yeah They deserve you.  So we'll be critical of you. Just like it's absolute This is I want to say it's one of the worst, but I'm like, I kind of remember anymore I don't know But I mean, I will say that was pretty painful Um, it's it's really annoying to watch a response where it feels like you're not even making any attempt to be good faith I feel like by the end of that I would conclude that that was bad faith. That was hyper bad faith It's one of the worst faith things ever. He admitted to it halfway through. Yeah, doesn't surprise me at all I knew that going in because I know how he is. This is just This is astounding though, I guess He is a again Oh, yeah, go for it.  It explains everything You could as it was blown away by like the fact that so many of his conclusions ended with Geez For having actual thoughts He was running his thought to a conclusion and then realized that there wasn't one or that it was a cliff Or he couldn't right before he gets there. No, I know because in his mind I know that Mahler's terrible and awful and he's the worst at his job ever But how do I But how do I use what I've just seen to explain that?   Uh, we'll we'll oftentimes we we you know Someone will have said something we dismantle it and then they say the same thing again And we sigh and then we're like right. Yes. So they're doing it again They're saying but you know like we'll explain knowing like we've kind of said this already But hey, we'll make sure We become very very well versed in the videos that we watch to the point where we Get a get some semblance of almost predictive powers when we notice things that are consistent about people Or when we cover someone for a second time, right? We get a feel of what we might see and what we what they might say Or what we just saw is what a lot of people think eFap is and they'll criticize eFap for beating Like you don't listen to what point is actually being made you see everything like The way you want to see it. You don't actually see it for what it is Because you just want to dunk you're going in with bad faith. You've gone into a disagree already. It's like You know and and what like you couldn't stop throwing insults too. Obviously, I don't care at this point But it's still like, you know, super low effort brainless like no creativity talentless low efforts like Thanks, I guess Get away from the million dollar corporation. Whatever that meme is Yeah, I know what you're talking about with the planes and everything plunging into action Yeah, all right. Well, that was uh, yeah, no, it's good for flighting, isn't it?  It's just like, you don't understand It's not fun for me a lot of the time because it's like fun.  It's like, uh, fun Yeah, because you just watch somebody who is not Listening to the points that was being made and every time that a point that he was able to Actually figure out what you were trying to say he would either agree with you but not realize it Or he would just say the opposite And then contradict himself later on anyway Yeah That was painful. I'd rather just talk about stuff like ragnarok. How's the dragon? Yeah Hand or even oh, we hate everything.  That's all we do is we just hate things We're not real critics because why doesn't hate But um, yeah, all right. Well, so what we're gonna do now Is uh, we are going to do the superchats for black adam They were oh, all right. I think we got through some of them. We were unable to finish. That's probably yeah, we started Yeah, so I guess I'll get started Well, I I want to use the loo real quick and I'll be right back very well What's that? That was fun, wasn't it free? No, it wasn't I didn't enjoy that Well, I mean I laughed a few times but still There is an entertainment in how Uh, do you know that like I'm assuming you do you know what a Controlled opposition is the phrase Uh, I feel like I've heard of that phrase basically the Ease of a type that someone could assume I paid him to do that Right because it makes you look good Like that's how awful that approach was and you know when you when you get to that point like dude, you need to You know switch it up You know get a little bit better.  It's there for you to consume Uh It's as far as gump always said we're all a little bit far as gump that um That was a guess that's a meme. I haven't seen for us come so long. I don't even know all the references I haven't seen it in a while either Um They got it was his first meshed. That's a quote for um doom the the The rock doom film It's when um, it's when he shoots.   You should have done that. Yeah The sequel trilogy becomes an eight out of ten, but you now have to live with a very very intense foot fetish Did we answer this before this feels familiar? it does but I don't know I don't remember what our answer was, but I I could I swear I could have remembered it being an overall no All right, what's uh, what was the question? I think I said no to that one Yeah, the sequel trilogy becomes an eight out of ten, but you have to have an intense foot fetish I mean that's not like I I guess it's not bad. You just have a fetish and you like feet It doesn't get rid of any fetishes that you have It just adds one to it that you can explore it your leisure if you want I assume when they say intense it like overflows. It is disruptive to your life um Well, if it's disruptive my to my life and no maybe the sequel trilogy get what gets what it deserves It's not worth it. They made it right They made it They made it and it did what it did so This lateness will not stand Well, Harry Got a whole extra e-fap episode happening right now. So maybe that makes up for it It's confirmed by the devs of scorn that the game is canonically a dream that a non-descript person is having woo-hoo Oh, well, that's somehow makes it worse. Um, I was actually going to argue That makes no difference to be at all like I I just whatever I I didn't have much to draw from that game anyway, but telling me it's all a dream It's like whatever Yeah, very cool. Um, I appreciated adam not being a constant quipster Like black adam not making jokes all the time He's too far out of his element to be able to even make a lot of a lot of the humor comes from him not understanding how things work, right? Yeah, yeah That could be more fun Oh my god an e-fap time to get into it unzips pants. Oh, no Hey, oh Suppose if you really want to uh, I never played fps. Which game is a good start You never played Oh, wow Doom halo That go actually go doom quake halo Yeah, yeah Halo Yeah, I think it's worthwhile Titanfall Is definitely high up there and play doom the new doom. Yeah, that'd be a fun adventure actually Uh, so where are you guys in andor? Will you give us your takes or would you rather give it all at once for some something real? Uh high rags and capital O and mean Hello, uh, we only saw episode three. We were happy with it. We I think if we decide to rewatch it, which I I mean if we decide to watch it We will likely start from episode one again because probably I've I've forgot a lot of what I because the fact that the director has come out and said there are details in the first episodes That make the later ones meaningful. It's like right then. I better get watching it and paying attention Yep Um exercise molly defend tlj from a fringy critique All right Our referee and they're from a friggy critique. Yeah, you got to criticize tlj and I got to do anything I kind of defend it. Oh, I mean, I guess I guess the easy one to latch on to is that the hyperspace kamikaze Destroys everything it destroys the stakes of space battles permanently If this is an option that's available It should be leveraged consistently by employing drones or even like, I don't know some self-driving system to just use it On massive targets to destroy entire fleets with like one ship. I think it's but then of course It's clearly inferrable that the resources they needed to pull that off were very specific to that environment And I think it was a very low chance it would even work But obviously as opposed to the ship just getting destroyed it was better to use it for that and hope So, uh, I don't think it's possible to just use it whenever you want I think what they're going for there is that that was a one-of-a-kind moment That's the biggest ship. I think in the history of the resistance and it likely may have had some experimental technology And there was there was just sort of right place right time sort of situation going on Right, none of that was in the movie Uh Well Other than it's an inference. It's like it's an unreasonable one. There was no supporting material in the film I don't even think it's great even if they were Amos the the evil guy was like he knew what she was doing Like he knew and was scared about it Yeah, you're right. And the fact is it may be the biggest of the good guy ships It's not the biggest of the bad guy ships No, we saw what the biggest of the bad guy ships was and it was enormous. So, yeah, I mean, that's look chat a chatter That's the best I can do, right? Exactly. There's always so much you can do. Hooray. Uh, Fringy. What's a nightmare story from a workplace? Uh I don't know I'm not sure. I don't know.  Let me know Uh, yeah, maybe I'm not I doubt I will but yeah, all right. I'm not like the other good guys I'm evil to the core because I kill others even though I'm the though the good guys do it, but it never gets addressed.  I mean I do understand why they kind of went with it with black adam Especially his intro where he just kills everyone around him But the implication as the film goes on is that he killed them because she wanted them dead He says like they were you summoned me to destroy your enemies and they were destroyed correct or something. Remember that Yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of like wait, so would you have killed them if they're all babies? Like if she just considered them their enemy babies, are they harassing you?  What are the odds? Maybe this was done in real time. Who knows? Good evening gents any chance of another hot take stream in future If enough hot takes were to arise at the same time, I guess Oh, yeah, right. I remember that one. That was funny It was like remember it was like we were really one per hour and a half or something. I never was just like, oh, what's it gonna be? DJ peach cobbler has a neat video on scorn with a watch also high rags screeches for the good boy. Oh, hello. Thanks There you go.   Maybe you misspoke Bonus quote. I don't like to beg for money I don't think anyone likes to beg for money But I guess he would admit that it's something that he's resorted to From bopulous michael, but he begs. Oh boy here. I go beggin again.  Yeah, let's try it again restart Every time over Yeah Um Every time someone asks rlm. How is this seen pointless their responses? It's pointless because we don't care about this scene Oh, I mean, um I don't know Sometimes they do baffle me with some of the stuff they say, but I think they have different reasoning depending on what they're covering And how they care about yeah Seems to be what I've noticed. Um Check out where those guys we discussed movies. Oh, so so it's check out. So where those guys I think is the idea. We're those guys We discussed movies pop culture tv and other types of media. We're having a blast doing it. Any feedback is in courage Where those guys? Yeah 1.3k subs Last thing marvel. No, how are you? You know rip to the straight jason david frank Any where types of two reviews? Oh, it's a little podcast, you know G4 interviewer wants to know why we should cancel batman. Oh that clip Oh boy This is so bad like are y'all gonna see the emu war 2022 movie I didn't know there was a lot I thought you said wasn't something being made with john clays involved or something. I think sorry I think that's the film with john clays would be the one to do it because yeah, I mean I'd be up for that Yeah, especially if it has like some positive reviews and stuff You get a chance Did china ban the rock over 007? I'm not sure what that means rock over 007 as in like they banned him instead of 007 or that they banned him because of 007 Was he in 007? Oh, I think so. Did they ban the rock because maybe they're referring specifically to the actor pierced brazilan because he played 007 Oh I that now rings the bell that rings the bell that there was something to do with something he said Once in an interview. Oh, it could be. Yeah, I can't remember exactly what happened Like how you call a double I have it instead of pierced brazilan Oh, he's a pretty cool 007 He is In chainsaw man, there's a daemon for all fear Ie guns or tomatoes if you kill the Demon it destroys the fear's source i.e. will war two is deleted from reality. What? Interesting. I'm just gonna try that again. This is an anime, right? There's a demon for all fear Such as guns or tomatoes if you kill the demon it destroys the fear's source Ie w the will war two is deleted from reality But it doesn't destroy just the fear of that thing which seems like it would be the logical Yeah, like if I fear guns because of will war two then when I kill the demon of all fear it destroys will war two I think is if you kill the demon of the fear of world war two It destroys not the fear of world war two, but world war two okay That's strange gotta be In the peacemaker show they retcon it so that dceu batman does not kill A retcon is indeed what I would call that you can't get out you can't we watched him do it We've watched him do it a lot That's the retcon of it. I suppose is that ret is a retcon Like the retcon you need there is to recontextualize what we saw as being lies, right? That's how you retcon that pretty much I would how I would much for that be done instead of just unlikely But they'll pull that off. Yeah, but if you give new information the old information goes away Just like we learned from our friend Then so much today Have you ever considered playing return of the obra din the beautifully stylized game from lucas pope? I would love to see you and maybe others play with you. It's a near perfect detective game with a great story to boot I've heard it's very good But I have no plans to play it right now So many things I need to play But I do hear it's very good. I think matthew matosis did a big video on it Uh, our live-action scooby-doo movies part of dcu now Yeah, hopefully You can add some heroes into the universe finally Some kids going around solving crimes that sounds nice Portion sketch therapy is an sjw false flagger I don't know who sketch therapy is Is that a channel or I assume I have but I do know And sketch therapy he false flags Sketch therapy is in your chat. He identifies as a map I have no idea who that is I don't know anything about this person. Yeah Um, or take that person and kill them in secret. He was given and left the town like the island I'm not uh, I'm just gonna show all that referencing. I'm afraid I don't know what we were talking about Uh, want to cry look up lament for Boromir enhanced edition A song or I'm guessing it would be a song I don't like it Um, it is my opinion and also a fact that because gen waltz Assumably had the opportunity to basically bring paradise to the marvel universe and instead shows only self beneficial Or self-benefit. Sorry. This would make her one of the most rotten And then uh, what looks like There's three super chats the second one is filled with what looks to be what was written on the one ring Oh, no, it's I see now. It's words, but they got all like crosses and weird shit on them But I think I can make it out. It says loathsome vile filthy crooked disgusting dirty weak spineless corrupt Black soul no-hearted I can't make out what that one says in Iniquitous I'm not sure what that one says downright unpleasant character in fictional canon and I dislike her strongly. Also. She is female Also that well Uh, yeah, it's possibly the worst act has been committed in the marvel universe But uh, yeah, it actually probably is and the funny part is you get to have god powers and we thought That no one will be able to outclass wander destroying the book of vishanti But I feel like that outclasses it because that was even more power Yeah, this is the level of our reality, you know in a medicine so Uh hot defap. Yes and done If I am the evil overlord, I will put a general with the same rank as me in charge of the security checkpoints So you can have a Kenobi scenario where a spy says I outrank you therefore let me in Um, most you can't have that scenario. Yeah, you need to make everybody who's on security checkpoints the highest rank So that no one can say I outrank you therefore you don't need to check me So it's a bit of a a bit of a loophole you could say Could have played Eggman's nega theme Um, I don't know when you're suggesting we play it. Maybe in one of the action scenes for black adam Could we call for black adam to meet dr. Eggman, I think yeah, that'd be interesting Eggman would win that confrontation. I'd say Yeah, I know the rock wouldn't like to hear that but the truth can be difficult Um MLK should have shazammed God, I could I could imagine them really awkwardly doing that in some kind of movie Wizards grabbed MLK and they didn't should What happened? It's a mortal combat opener. Duh, that's why Um, I again, I'm not 100% sure you're referring to it could be the something in black adam Maybe um, maybe the mexican standoff where they do the gun thing That was really cool and I was really so glad they built that up That was a great payoff to that one time Black Adam steam Could be how bad can I be from illuminations laurax movie? I haven't seen it. Have you guys seen I have not seen it, but I couldn't tell you anything about it Something about he speaks for the trees Oh, nice Well, yeah, but it's illumination. So, you know Are they really speaking for the trees? Is that what you're saying? Well, it's just it's just kind of funny, right that the studio that created minions, you know The laurax kind of like a You know considering what it's about the critique of like consumerism and Environmental degradation because of just like a desire to you know, maximally like profit So the laurax as an ip had knock Uh, well, I guess docked because I'm pretty sure that are they made a a grinch movie as well illumination I think Benedict Cumberbatch actually played the Grinch Hmm. Oh, yeah. Yeah the the Grinch movie. Yeah, I I don't know about what's horton. Here's a who that was was that dream works or Was that like I feel like that was almost a would that have been illumination too if that's another dr. Seuss thing Uh, I think it might have been too early. That's the thing. Um, because I think horton here's a who I I think that was Yeah, that was blue sky because I came out in 2008. I think illumination like didn't start doing stuff until like 2009 I want to say Uh, oh without founded in 2007. Yes, because I think their first film was despicable me Yeah, it was and that came out in 2010. So it was before illumination Um off topic, but in hot fuzz. Why does danny stab angel if danny doesn't know about the murders plot hole? Or did I miss something? Presumably at that point.  Whoo Do you think hancock would be considered good if it came out today or if it could be good if remade today? Well definitely could be good But if it was remade today, it probably wouldn't be good No That's whether or not it is actually any good I need to see it again Doing you guys I think all three of us have seen it right, but not in ages. I've seen it Not me long time ago. Have you not seen hancock? No, I haven't Oh, okay um Who subvert and superhero shit well before they got popular before pretty sure came out same year as I had man so A while ago All the rock had to do was put a vague middle eastern accent on put on a wig and cgi and some wax ears didn't even want to do that We gotta be careful putting on an accent people will be if that maybe Well, so we don't want to offend a country that doesn't exist Pratt, you know because they didn't want to do a Italian accent Yeah, chris pratt didn't even put on weight and get shorter for the right He didn't put on a grown muster. Oh wait. He has a beard doesn't he? Well, not a mustache. I mean a mustache combined with a grown mustache Yeah, I don't Didn't even get a plumbing degree Yeah, no, you didn't go to the degree the school of plumbing. That would be funny though If someone like did a really good job and part of the interview they said is like I lid how to be a plumber You're like, okay. Yeah, it's like, yep, whatever we're bad. What if we're Hi rags Hey there. Wow. Thanks for the recent videos Just wanted to send some positive reinforcement your way and tell you that I ordered your makeshift plush because of them Keep up the great work doggo I thank you very much. I'm glad you like it Hi rags Hello to you. Paula. There's a Justice League TV pilot from 1997. You guys have to e-fap it. You'll hate it well Of course great. How do you Justice League TV pilot from 97, huh? Ah, if only if only it all got funded back then if only people realized how good superhero content is They just weren't quite getting it and it was thanks to things like daredevil and electra that we finally broke out Long-time lurker here found rags and fringy back in the old PCMR days via top hats then mohler through that first tlj stream Wanted to kick a few bucks y'all's way to say thanks for the good times Ah, well, you're welcome very much. I'm and we really appreciate the support. Thank you. Thank you indeed Yeah, it's been a while now. There's all these different origins, you know Indeed, I don't even know how we really like met. I can't remember how fringing. I met just it's so long ago. You don't know He might remember but he's way too infrequent Um bill Murray escaped space jam will to end up in the quantum realm Yeah Sometimes you just get unlucky because then again, I don't know if you'd want to stay in the space jam Will say hit the new one with shit I heard the new one's terrible. I watched um Why messes video on it? So, yeah, where do you want to be the quantum realm or space jam wheels? I don't know man I don't even know what web is the quantum realm. Nope. I'm sure we'll find out. I'm sure it'll make so much sense We'll hit how much sense it makes Uh, great new video rags mine is showing us gyms gag inducing dress up every two minutes. Hope there's more on the way There is Uh, I heard the rock is doing a drax impression as black adam. Am I crazy? There's a little bit of that going on, but I'd rather say it's just fish out of water stuff than impersonate in drax appropriation Is uh, you know just the whole like doesn't understand things someone tells them and gives short and harsh answers It's an archetype of sorts. I guess Uh, I always wondered are there also like regular animals in pokemon or everyone eating charmanders and snorlaxes instead of chicken and beef I don't know the lore on that question. Um, I assume that there are many or many pokemon that take the place of ours but Mill tank really made me think about that. I was like, remember that was the joke In uh, that that awesome pokemon, you know, like I need nourishment Taurus meat or something.   All you even feed me is puffins He's just after he vomited But yeah, uh bill tag made me think like surely that's beef and milk, right? That's that's happening Or is it not what's going on? They're they're a chicken pokemon probably are they I'd imagine I think so at this point probably Gotta be so yeah, um, we don't talk about it. That's the answer to that question Don't talk about it. It happens, but it doesn't get Does doctor fate too many magic doctors have to deal with death to prevent any final destination events Oh have a deal with death to prevent any final destination events Like to make sure that they happen Prevent right um I mean a deal to not prevent them or deal to prevent them and in which case I'm not even sure what that means He's uh, he said Let's see.  We said like he's always had a vision that it eventually leads to utter annihilation Basically, that's always the end point. I find that's so interesting for him Like he'll always know that's where humanity ends up.  That's enough for me to make a whole movie. He should have More interesting than I was gonna say is we were just seeing the black atom, which I do think is true But like that's almost harsh compared to like it's way more interesting than everything in phase four It's what I should say before that because black atom.  Yes, I think when metal visits, but the thing is I'm planning on playing Years of war with him and I don't think we can complete the campaign for any of those games in one stream That would be six already um We'll have to figure out how we're gonna move everything around. I'm not a hundred percent sure Um, but hey on that note. We are caught up with the black atom Hey, that's really excellent. That's great. How about that? It's a progress.  Don't you tell anyone about it? Yep, this is a secret if you tell everyone about it. We can't do these anymore. It's very very hush hush stuff It's classified Let's see feet, but um since it's one of those episodes Uh, all I'll say is stuff happening and has happened. Who knows what's going on Thank you all so much for kind donations checking out Wonderful little show we run and for uh for keeping us company in the presumed premiere chat for this episode Or it could have just gone out. I don't even know either way What a fun fun day we had and uh, I hope you had as well a person who is listening right now But until next time Why don't you just go and have a nice day or night? Yeah, have a great day everybody We shall see you tomorrow Okay, bye everybody later