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Tonight is the fourth in Cavalcade's new fall series of great stars in great radio plays in which Cavalcade is bringing you the finest possible in radio entertainments. The noted playwright, Maxwell Anderson, wrote tonight's drama, Valley Forge. And start in the role of George Washington is Walter Huston. Next week, you'll hear Bob Hope, Jerry Cologne and Francis Langford. The following week, Joan Fontaine. And on October 30th, Clark Gable. Now, here is your Cavalcade narrator, Walter Huston. This evening's play, Valley Forge, was written by my good friend, Maxwell Anderson. Now, ordinarily, that would be sufficient introduction for Maxwell Anderson as a playwright who has captured the living spirit of America. The story of Valley Forge is one Americans are proud of, one that has been told over and over again. But today, Valley Forge has a deeper meaning, where sharply reminded by the daily headlines that men are again fighting for freedom. Again, why must they fight once more for freedom? Against tyrants, there must be proof written in blood that free men will not be conquered. The men at Valley Forge, too, fought for it. They fought hard for it until the bullets of the enemy came crushing into their weary bodies. But they fought on for the same reason free men fight on today. Freedom. A neasy, much-used word, perhaps. But a mighty goal that knows not the meaning of surrender. DuPont Company presents Valley Forge by Maxwell Anderson, starring your Cavalcade narrator, Walter Huston, in the role of General George Washington on the Cavalcade of America. It is the winter of 1778, the place Washington's headquarters at Valley Forge. As the play begins, Washington is speaking to a young Virginian named Alcock. How many able-bodied men in your company, Alcock? How many with guns, shoes and equipment for a stole in the snow? Twenty-eight. Are they about, sir? Twenty-eight. Twenty-eight out of seventy-two. It'll have to do. This is a raid on Hay Island in the Susquehanna. We are informed that Sir William Howell has stored horse fodder there. We mean to get there first to salvage it for ourselves or else dump it in the river. When are we supposed to start, sir? Tonight. Draw rations for days for each man. We don't start tonight, then, sir. Not tonight. It's impossible, Colonel Tench. We've drawn the last rations for the regiment, such as it was. The supply was sufficient for ten days. On paper, yes. When they rolled out the last twenty barrels, the meat was spoiled. It'll be done without meat. What a flower. Two days, sir. You'll make it due for four. As you say, sir. And good night. Yes, good night. You've much to do. Is it all tonight, Tench? That's all, General. Unless you've a minute to squander on that way-faced boy you saw on the entrance. Who is he? Hanged if I know his name, I've booted him some five or six times. Let him come in. As you say, sir. Come along, man. General, we'll see you. Thank you, sir. Spit it out and be terse about it. I've got no time for a history. Why are you here, lad? Well, I'll say it as brief as I can, sir. The truth is, I'm dying. They tell me it's the air gear or something wrong with my stomach. Colonel Tench will arrange to send you home at once. Thank you, sir. But that's not what I wanted. I'm afraid that's all we have to offer. It's hard to say what it is I wanted. I don't want to die. Nobody wants to die young. But I will, whether I go or stay here.  Come, come, man. There's no time for this. You're in a fever. Now, one moment, Colonel Tench. Let him stay. Thank you, sir. Won't you try to see it, sir? A lot of men have died, and I'm only one. But we're dead a long time for the want of freedom, and we came to fight for something. We believe- Don't worry, lad. We'll do what we can. We'll be looked after. Yes, sir. Good night. Can you use the name? Yes. Tell Sterling and Lafayette to come in. Yes, sir. Come in, gentlemen. It's not by accident that you three are here tonight. The reports before us show that we've neither food nor clothes nor arms for the maintenance of an army. No defense if we're attacked. I have written the Congress and I have their reply. They are sending two commissioners to investigate. But by the time we've been- we've satisfied then that we're all dying, we'll muster nobody here but the sick and naked. My question simply, is the revolution over or is it worth trying to hold on? General Washington, this country had come to you with open arms. If you'd say to them once for all, I'll take just this and that and I'll take it now when it's needed.  It happens that our Congress is the heart of what we fight for. Good or bad, Mr. Tench. General Washington. Yes, Lafayette. May I begin by saying something you know but may have forgotten? This world you have cut from a wilderness is a new world. I find no man but looks you in the eye and says his thought in your teeth and means it. Europe has 30 kings and 100 million slaves. But the name of Washington is magical in France. You will have the help of France before the end of spring. If you knew what dreams and faith rest on you, you would do this impossible. This impossible. As for our high purpose, we have it still. But the men, the men are mortal and die around us so fast the heaviest workers to bury the dead. If you heard of a martyr called Washington across the seas, I fear I'll disappoint you. I'd rather live than have my fun in my time for my face hardens into a mountain crag. But we have three days' supplies. We gamble our three days on a change of luck. All commanders meet here at five in the morning. Good night, sir. Good night, sir. Lafayette. Yes, sir. Stay a moment. Yes, sir. I was short with you when you meant to praise me. I hope to be forgiven. This war is a democratic war. And one man's name... I know, sir. Sometimes I feel I am a difficult guest. I'd said what I meant, I'd have told you how much you've upheld my hands when I was close to faltering. When a leader loses one battle, he senses how his world begins to slip away from him. I've lost too many since losing one. You fall across our night at Valley Forge like a young star all flamed. Let's hope you're destined to avoid our quenching. Sir, the sun is quenched in ocean and rises in the morning. I gauge my life it will be so with you. Ray? Yes, sir, General Washington. Coming right out, sir. The commissioners and the Congress are arriving this morning. Yes, sir. They'll be wanting a bit to eat after the journey, sir. Yes, and give us the stuff that was left from the fusilliers dinner. I guess that stuff was worse than you know, General. The cookie couldn't pass that off on the cat. I know, I tasted it. We'll have it this morning. Just as you say, General. General Washington. Yes, Lafayette. I have something to report. Could you hear me? I've only a few moments. There is a message from Philadelphia. Yes, well, tell me what's in it. It may be only a trick, sir. But the congressman, sir, is craving their boots outside. Shall I fetch them in? And argues a certain amount of respect. Yes, fetch them in by all means, Trench. I'm sorry, Lafayette, it will have to wait. It must. Come in, gentlemen. Well, well. Ah, gentlemen. Welcome to Valley Forge. Ah, what roads. We arrive somewhat bedraggled, sir. But no less welcome for that. This is Colonel Trench, my aide, who will hear our discussions. And, uh, General Lafayette. How do you do? General, we've been abroad since seven, and I'm starved. Will excuse a light collation, Army Fair? Surely, bring on your light collation, sir. That infernal host at the inn, we asked the man for colaps, and he said, it's bacon. And bacon sickens me. I've a tetchy stomach traveling. And it may be that our soldier's father won't do. Oh, yes, yes, yes, it will. I'm not so tetchy by now. Then we'll be served in a moment. Uh, while we're waiting, I'd like to bring up the question of a new quartermaster. It's plain an army can't run without a quartermaster, and yet you've left me without one for three months. We know it, we know it. It's most unfortunate, but there's been some quarrel in the Congress over appointments. I've done my best to settle the matter, but, uh... It's not settled yet. The Lord knows, sir, when the fabric will be settled. We authorized you to live off the country, General Washington. I think you'll find there's not much food within our range. And besides, if you turn men loose to ravage and steal from our own civilians... Steal? Ravage and steal? What else can you call it? No, gentlemen. Better give up at once than sow the country with thieves, armed and insolent and bearing pardons signed by their officers. Now, now, a little discipline's all that's needed. Discipline? Will you show me a rule for holding an army together on air? Well, I've held together all morning on little more, and I see our breakfast approaching. Welcome to Persian. Here you are, gentlemen. Go ahead, gentlemen. Don't stand on ceremony. Right you are. Good Lord. Good Heaven's above. What's the matter, Mr. Folsom? Health. Health. I'm strangling.  Yes, sir. Have you tried this in the name of Heaven, General? Are you ill, Congressman? Look. Look at your food. It crawls. You exaggerate, Congressman. This is better than what I've been having lately. Not bad at all. It moves about a trifle. Weevil's hard to kill. What is it? Mostly beans, I guess. General Washington, please, please stop eating it. Give it as you wish. Take the plates out, Ray. Yes, sir. I'm sorry, gentlemen. This is the mess we've dealt to several corps lately for lack of betterment. Is that any reason for lading hogwash on us? You're not compelled to eat it, but we are, and you sent it. Well, that is bad. I'll admit that. But give us something else to clear the air. After we've settled the question of a quartermaster for my army. General Washington, what the army needs, apparently, is not so much a new quartermaster as a new commander-in-chief, a man with a proper respect for the Congress. Gentlemen, forget you, our Congressman. Here is our war. Come down to a moldy crust and you wrangle over ribbons. There's little stomach in Congress for further expenditures when peace is in the air. Peace? What peace? Does it surprise you? When a war's lost, the usual thing is to feel around for bargains, and that's what's being done. When did this begin? No more, Folsom. It's unfortunate much as slipped. Colonel Tentsch, if you'll unstable our horses, I think we can make it to York by nightfall. Good day, General. Good day, gentlemen. Peace. Now, Lafayette, you're pardoned for a scene hardly calculated to instill respect. It's of no matter, sir. I understood. Now you have a message from Philadelphia. Yes, but now I'm loathe to speak. You're overburdened. Don't take what comes to me. Let's have it. But from General House, sir, he begs you to meet and talk with him under a flag of truce.  It seems the Congress has refused my country's office to form a military alliance with the United States. So, we've been betrayed, Lafayette. Betrayed by our own people. It may be only a trick of some sort. No, and even if it were, I believe I should come to terms with the enemy now. General Washington, you heard Congressman have approached how. But if peace is made, we'll be on our terms. Where is the meeting to take place? On an island in the Susquehanna. Hey, island. That is where they guard the horse fodder. We plan to take it today. We won't be needing it now, Lafayette. This nation is spending its last heart's blood for a package of liberty. We opened the package today, Lafayette. And it was empty. You are listening to Valley Forge, written by Maxwell Anderson, starring Walter Houston as General Washington. Brought to you on the capital of America by E.I. DuPont's Dinamoys and Company of Wilmington, Delaware. Maker of better things for better living through chemistry. In the bitter winter of 1778, General Washington, finding himself and his starving army virtually deserted, agrees to meet with General Howe on an island in the Susquehanna River to discuss terms of peace. Two of his aides, Trench and Lafayette, have preceded him. This is the place, Lafayette. It's the only barn and mile. I don't understand this firing to the south. It might be the men we sent to dump the hay. Maybe they ran into trouble. No, the hay's stored west of here. West? Well, that means... Listen. Someone in that barn. Easy for the door there. Step into the light where I can see you. Who's there? Oh, I beg your pardon, Colonel Trench. General Lafayette. Who are you? It's all right, sir. Virginians. Virginians? I hope I'm not going to have to make you both prisoners. For what? For desertion. You were ordered west of here to dump General Howe's horse fodder. Yes. Came over here to lift a mess of corn for breakfast instead. We're going home, that's all. Going home? Yes. This starving down to a hide-and-buttons. I don't savvy. My old woman can use some here corn. The silence in the state of truce, man. You left too early to be informed, but General Washington meets with General Howe here within the hour. To sue for peace, he'd quit and sue for peace. This is officer's intelligence, man. Listen, Colonel. Truce are no truce. Disserties are no deserties. Our comrades are catching it down there. We've got a fight going on. We look into it. How do we get there? Follow the shoreline south. That's where you're dumping the corn? Yes. Clopton's Grandmaid. Good enough. Wait a minute. You say the generals are coming here? Yes. What are we going to do? Lie where you are and let them step over you. Well, they don't shoot them when they come in. We look inside. Well, the roosts inhabited by others. Who are you men? Virginia, sir. I've seen you before. Yes, sir. Valley Forge. Yes. I thought Colonel Tanch would be here. He was here, General. But he stepped out to mix the shindies. And you took the first opportunity to step out on your own as Disserties. What do you expect a man to do? I have no doubt your circumstances might be termed extenuating. But I have a meeting here under the truce with the enemy. It'll be most embarrassing to have them find me in the company of my own renegades. We understand, sir. Alcock and me will help the others. Get hid in the granary till you're done. We carry a flag, friend. Ours is a peaceful area. That's them now. General Washington. General Howell. I'll be brief and apologizing. Some men from my own army have descended on this island. But we'll keep the truce now. Well, General, you've had the best of this day's work. Those rascals of yours robbed the corn cribs, I'm told. However, sick transit horse feed Monday. Does it meet with your wish that we transact our business before witnesses? Sir, I'd a little rather this discussion were known to my officers. Right. Right. And so would I. I had to be understood that I bind myself to nothing by this meeting. Nor have I aught it in my loyalty to the cause I kept in. Tell the truth and it's no secret.  And would to God it had never started. And want you back on your own terms. My own terms would mean that we never went back at all. But I'm not alone in these decisions.  As you must know. For God forbid this, General, must we take back a king? Do you think it would be for me, Sterling? To be late, General Washington. And what happened? What is the fighting? I shall report and do time, sir. General Howe, in regard to certain corn which this squad of the First Virginia sacked last night, let me report it stowed on Clupton's landing. I have said goodbye to my corn, not without regret. As to the losses in this action, General Washington, there have been some wounded and some killed. How many I don't know. Not among the latter, Nick Teague and Lucifer Trench. You list yourself among the slain? This is rather tasteless joking. I'm dead enough.  Sit down there before you fall. To die for hay and grain. That's a high death for a swashing soldier. The devil take your kings and congresses in their hay. Trench, take your hand from me. I'll walk to where I lie. A dog dies best in a corner. Bring on your burlap and the sailor's needle. And soul me into sleep. I'm tired. Trench, man. Trench. He is done for, sir. General Howard, may be that you prefer to wait elsewhere until... until we're free again. Thank you, General. I am not unmoved at any brave man's passing, but these griefs are private. And we'll take a turn outside. Come, gentlemen. These dying men have vision. Yes. This is a dark, dark morning. General Washington. Trench. He's gone. We're all as good as dead, Lafayette. Have you pledged yourself to how? Not yet. Dead for hay and grain, he said. Sir, they had news at the landing. Congress has signed the French alliance. Too late. Too late. Couldn't you try, sir? I've neither government nor army, Lafayette. Look about you at these remnants of dying and deserting men. You trided me, sir, for speaking too well of you. Saying this is a democratic war. That it must be a democratic peace. Ask them if they are ready to give in. Gather your troops and make one final effort, sir. Gather my troops. Gabriel's trumpet might rally that veil of bones. What could I offer them to follow me? Call them into me. Come in. Come in and hear me. You were some of the best, you renegades, here in the granary. There was a time when you had shoes and powder for your guns and fought to rule yourselves. Now I offer wounds and death.  If you can find within yourselves the courage and the heart to face rewards like this, to fight through the snow, the winter and the heat of summer, in the valleys and the plains, and to the last mountain peak where we can still call free our own America, if this is what you want, then close in and take your places in my ranks. You'll take us back with you, sir? Take you back. I'll go with you.  You heard what he said. We'll go with you, sir. Do you mean you would take us? We thought it was over. That's why we were going home. We thought it was falling to pieces. But if you meant what you said about being plowed under before we stopped, I'm for being plowed under. Tell us what's going on here. Has my hay barn been turned into an American barracks now? Sorry, General Howe. Men, you'd better get back to camp. Yes. Well, George Washington, General Howe, I am servant to those men in rags of homespun. They heard your proposition and they refused it flatly. The forge was cold that smelted those fellows into steel, but steel they are. This war is not mine to end, but theirs. I have my orders. You'll draw this tragedy out further. As far as we must. But you've lost, General. Lost now. They're all the rules of the game. We're beaten and should surrender. But the spirit of earth moves over the earth like flame and stands over this my country like a pillar of fire to show us an uncouth clan unread but followers of a dream that men shall bear no burdens save of their own choosing. It's destined to win this game, weak though we are. Sir, when I'm replaced, they'll press you harder. Sir, we engage to stand it. Very well, Ho. If I'll get a drubbing at home, I bid you goodbye, General Washington. We wish you good morning and a fair voyage, General Howe. And so we're left with some years of revolution on our hands. We have food for three days. And then for three more if we can find it. And three more if we can find it. And now I think we will. General, what shall we do about tension, the others? We must bury them here. They've earned the ground.  No. We need our powder. And dead men don't hear volleys. So be it then. This liberty will look easy by and by when no one dies to get it. Thank you, Walter Houston. And before you return to tell us about Bob Hope's appearance on Cablecade next Monday evening, I have an interesting story about the newest member of the constantly growing family of DuPont Plastics. We call this new plastic Polythene, P-O-L-Y-T-H-E-N-E. Polythene came originally from Imperial Chemical Industries, an English chemical manufacturing company, and has been under further development by DuPont for five years. Now, after extensive experimental and development work, Polythene is being manufactured in the United States in commercial quantities and is available by specific allocation for war purposes. Small amounts of it are also going to manufacturers for experimental purposes. 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Live from San Francisco. It's theCUBE. Covering Oracle OpenWorld 2016. Brought to you by Oracle. Now, here's your host, John Furrier and Peter Burris. Welcome back, everyone. We here live in San Francisco for SiliconANGLES CUBE, our flagship program. We go out to the events and extract the signal from the noise. We are here at Oracle OpenWorld 2016 on the ground floor in the exhibit hall in Big Booth, Big Studio. Breaking down Oracle OpenWorld. Of course, Larry Ellison just gave his keynote. He does the opening keynote Sunday night before the event and then saves his best for the keynote right in the middle of the afternoon from 1.30 to 3.30 on Tuesday, second day. And so we're gonna break it down. I'm John Furrier, the co-CEO of SiliconANGLE Media here at Peter Burris, Chief of Research for SiliconANGLE Media and also General Manager, Wikibon Research and Rob Hope, Editor-in-Chief of SiliconANGLE and heading up the editorial publication. We're going to be expanding on guys. Let's get into it. So Larry Ellison, he must have been tired Sunday and he must have saw our tweets about upping his game a bit. He delivered an epic performance. He really came out, guns blaring, Amazon web services, clearly in his sights, being aggressive. Peter, your thoughts on the tone. Is this the new Oracle or what's your take?  And as a consequence, it was very, very halting when it came in over the TVs here. But I think in general, he went back to his playbook or he's going back to the Oracle playbook. And the Oracle playbook historically has been we're more open, we are faster. And when you combine those two factors, we will be cheaper. So he used, they ran some benchmarks. He showed how Oracle on Oracle is faster, how everything on Oracle is faster, how Oracle on Oracle and not everything else is faster and how ultimately that turned into longer term, cheaper operations. So it looks like Oracle remembers what got it to where it is 20 years ago, 25 years ago in the last big transition or one of the last big transitions. Sounds like he's kind of going back to the playbook and running it again. The guns are blaring. Rob, you were in the session, you've been out scouring for stories.  Oracles, Larry Ellison, redoubles attack on AWS. Your thoughts on the keynote, what was the vibe? What struck you? Well, I mean, obviously Larry was really on his game there. He, as you said, Sunday was a little off, but this time he really came out blazing, guns blazing as you say. And he really attacked Amazon on a number of fronts, you know, performance, openness, which is kind of ironic, isn't it, for Oracle? So, you know, he's obviously gunning after Amazon or at least wanting to appear to you. What I wonder though is what that means. I mean, is he really going after Amazon or is he trying to set some sort of tone for the customer to say, like, if you're even thinking of an Amazon, you got to look at us first, right? And certainly it's on Oracle on Oracle. I heard things like, our stuff is faster. Our stuff works and to end the, back to the drumbeat of, our code is identical on premise, identical on cloud. It's the easiest way to move to the cloud. Obviously Oracle cloud, not the cloud and depositioning Amazon as being locked in and closed. It's interesting. I find it ironic too, Rob. That's the first thing I came to. It's like a lot of people have accused Oracle on their run after they started getting, you know, escape velocity as a venture. And when they really ran the table on the market, a lot of people were looking at Oracle as a lock-in. Like Oracle's database is so important. They are buying companies. People saw all goes on on the history of their, was customers felt locked in. So it's ironic now the shoes on the other foot. And not only that, he even accused them. He said, you know, you're locked in baby.  And I thought, isn't that Oracle's playbook? So Peter, that is the playbook on the licensing side. We've heard from customers that the licensing has always been a sticky issue. We know VMware has had that challenge with the hypervisor, of which Oracle's now announcing there's no hypervisor on their network virtualization. So how does these companies make money? Because certainly it's a shift of the dollars. Mark Hurd said 80% of IT spending will be in the cloud by 2025. So is there a ratchet? Is there a sticky factor for Amazon, I mean, Oracle to actually maintain that revenue growth? Well, as we talked about yesterday, there is nothing stickier than the application. When a business reconfigures itself around an application, it is extremely hard to take that application without dramatically disrupting the business. You can take out a database manager if you can move that data to some other structure, some other mechanism, and still run the application. You can certainly change hardware, and you will be able to change cloud providers. It won't be fun. It won't be easy. It will be expensive, but you can move data around and stand new instances of things up in other places. But the most sticky thing, good or bad, is the application. And so as Oracle goes forward, there's no doubt that it's going to talk about how Amazon is trying to lock people into its platform and some of the services that it's coming out with. But most of the businesses out there are mainly focused on whether or not the applications that they've either got from Oracle or have built on top of Oracle databases are working. And one point to make here, John, I have never met with a CIO or a senior IT person who's ever said to me, I really hope Oracle bones it in this next transition because I'd like to be able to throw them out. Nobody is looking for Oracle to lose. Most of these companies have so much invested in Oracle that they don't want to go through the pain and suffering of Oracle not succeeding. They would certainly like to have alternatives and they would certainly like Oracle to modernize its practices so that it appears and presents itself more as a cloud supplier. But this is overall a good thing for customers. I would agree with you, but I make a point. Cisco is one of those other companies in the early days had that stickiness with the routers. You couldn't just pull one out. It had a nice nestedness into the fabric of every business that they did. Oracle's the same way. But it's interesting, I find the tone, Rob, that you were mentioning that they're going after Amazon and the quote thing, your article, Oracle's cloud runs 24 times faster for analysts than Oracle on AWS. Now you saw about Oracle on AWS to your point, he's trying to keep the customer saying don't move to Amazon. And then the other thing I was taking back by Redshift's comments, he's going after Redshift. You pointed out- And Aurora. And Aurora, but Redshift is interesting. Redshift is the fastest growing service on AWS. Andy Jazz, he's told me that directly. And so he kind of did a nice little trick. He depositioned Redshift, great for analytics, but horrible for online transaction processing, the core for Oracle. Which is probably really not made for, right? Yeah, I wouldn't say that was Redshift's positioning. However, but it comes back down to what Amazon's all about. We speculate on theCUBE that we don't yet know what Amazon will become in the behemoth that they might be given their success. So I see Oracle really trying to kind of deposition Amazon as getting more territory in their accounts. So yeah, I don't think Oracle looks at Amazon as a replacement that they will die, but the disruption factor coming from Amazon certainly is being felt by Oracle. Would you agree? Oh, absolutely. The disruption, look, nobody or very few people looked back 12, 13 years ago and said that Amazon is going to become what it has become. In a lot of different markets. Jeff Bezos has demonstrated that he can get his troops to focus in and get very, very complex things done and have an enormous impact on a lot of different industries. Right now, we are all wondering, we're all wondering what those new, what those new industry structures are gonna look like. They're gonna be the dominant institutional forces in the next 10, 15 years. And it's clear that Amazon is identified what one part of that institutional basis will look like and Oracle needs to respond and that's what they're doing and they seem to be doing it well, but it's going to be a long, long, long haul. Well, let's bookmark that because in this segment I wanna get into what's not being talked about here in Oracle Open World and we'll get that in a second later in the segment, but let's keep on the theme of what we're hearing. Rob, you're out with your notebook, you're talking to people. What's the general point of view? What's the general consensus of your findings as you interview folks who sat through the keynotes? Is there a tone? Is there a certain thing you're hearing outside of their messaging, which is pretty clear. Oracle Cloud all the time, what's some of the things that you're finding in your reporting? Well, there are some sense out there that, you know, questions about Oracle's commitment to Cloud, especially the infrastructure part and whether they're trying to position themselves but not necessarily being completely serious about really taking on Amazon and so. As a red herring or more of a posture or legit competitor? I don't know, but the doubts are kind of interesting. You know, they're obviously not spending as much on R&D, on production of data centers.  And so they're a little doubtful, I think, about how far Oracle's going to go. Any other findings from other old Oracle executives? Is there anything that's jumping out at you in the hallway conversations? You know, they're pretty consistent in their messaging. Needless to say, that's one of their strengths. But there was a Q&A with Thomas Currian and people were trying to lead him off on saying things, you know, and he was not taking any bait. You know, he was completely un-messaged. Well, the Oracle executives are very strong with holding the line, party line. We do get some nuggets on the Cube, one of the ways it came on. And again, he didn't really reveal anything confidential or out of bounds without the messaging, but he brought up the database piece and was really seeing that the database piece is going to be much more of a broader perspective. That's my interpretation. And I was saying earlier, getting out of those swim lanes is a key message. But it's interesting. I mean, I think the customers, what I'm hearing in the hallways, Peter, is what's the impact of the customer, right? Like, okay, the buyers, so there's no real, no one's running for the exits with respect to Oracle. So I agree with you there, but there's definitely an investment criteria going on with the customers around the future that they need in their architecture, whether that's a hybrid, multi-cloud environment, and then ultimately the fear of being foreclosed for opportunities. So like as customers think about the future, they just don't want to foreclose your situation where there's no headroom for them to go outside of Oracle. If they have to. So I think that choice option is interesting. So I kind of see the idea of this as more of a fun factor. Well, let's put it this way. This is clearly the most important thing on the table is new workloads. The second most important thing on the table is if the new workloads go to the cloud, which it appears that they are going to. And they end up more in Amazon. That's going to create a center of gravity that's going to have an impact on existing workloads. And there are few companies that have more to lose if existing workloads move into Amazon's cloud than Oracle. And so Oracle needs to intercept this. They absolutely need to intercept this. But it's also the right thing to do for their customer base. My guess is that they're figuring out how to transition the business models, revenue comes down here, it goes up there, how do we do it so that everybody wins? That's a very, very complex management undertaking, especially given that there may be a CEO change on the horizon at some point in time. The bottom line is get the new workloads, make sure that the center of gravity doesn't move too much and keep your customers. I was out last night at the press event. Also, there was an essential party and I bumped into a few folks and I had an interesting conversation with one and something that we've talked about in theCUBE a little bit, but I'll bring it out here. I said, John, what do you think about Oracle and Amazon and all this stuff? Would you take a little bit socially lubricated at the time? I said, hey, someone's going to be a BlackBerry in this equation. Like, what do you mean? I go, well, the BlackBerry had all the features of the phone, they had email, they had browser support, they had huge adoption, installed base of phones. When the iPhone came out, that was the game-changing shift for applications. So every net new mobile app now called Mobile First was really built for a computer, AKA iPhone and then the Samsung Android. So all new applications essentially were written for the iPhone and Android. So they're like, where are you going? They're like, okay, if you're an enterprise, every net new application or cloud native application will be written for the cloud. My belief is that why wouldn't you build an application for this next-gen architecture? Why wouldn't you even do it on-prem? Unless there was some specific requirement around data, software data. Well, edge computing, there's some other things. There's some specific enterprise things that will always be there, but every net new application or Greenfield application completely do. It's going to have a cloud problem. It's going to be in the cloud. So if you believe that argument, that means there's going to be a tsunami of action in cloud, period. That means everything's going to the cloud. So you believe that, then it's a simple scale game. So there's going to be share taken by the cloud guys. So who are they? Oracle's kind of new to the cloud and it's only really Oracle Cloud. So Amazon's been getting the lion's share of that. So Google's ramping up for that with Diane Green and you've got Microsoft. Your thoughts on that, that BlackBerry, will someone be the BlackBerry of cloud? And it's an interesting analogy. I think that there's going to be some early, let's put it this way, if there's going to be a BlackBerry in the cloud, if there's going to be a BlackBerry of the cloud, it would be Amazon. And I don't think Amazon's going to be the BlackBerry in the cloud. Right? Not anytime soon. No, because the BlackBerry was the first one to come out that said, look, we can add more functionality to normally what you think about a phone. And along came Apple and said, you know what? Actually almost anticipating a reason. We could turn the phone into a piece of software that runs in this handheld computer. So I don't think that Amazon is likely to be the BlackBerry. Now the question is, will Oracle be a BlackBerry as a consequence of the cloud? And again, there is, businesses have invested so much in their, in the core enterprise applications that they are configured around, that the cost to rip them out would be so great and the benefits would be so modest unless Oracle does a face-pant plant of absolutely epic proportions. I don't think it's going to happen. It's not a clean analogy, but I do remember people having two phones because work had a phone with a BlackBerry and the other one was an iPhone. But it's a hard question. But the cloud is the iPhone. In your analogy, the cloud is the iPhone. So it's a hard question, right? So we can pontificate, but here's the thing that I want to ask you, you guys both, because it's a hard question because it's early to provocatively bring this out. But what would be the tell signs for the BlackBerry? One, enlarge pre-existing condition, right? Install base. Clutching and holding on to the old way and trying to be new, BlackBerry, try to be cool, but never really, like, realize let's just go and complete a iPhone soon. What was the centerpiece of BlackBerry's strategy? That core, fundamentally core enterprise telecommunications app that handled email and phone metrics. The tell-tale thing that Oracle's doing something wrong, quite frankly, the first one would be that they start cutting people out of the ecosystem, that they start going to what you were talking about is that the suite becomes more important than the innovation. Again, I don't think that's going to happen. I'm encouraged by the fact that this very comprehensive announcement so strongly features ISVs and partners. But John, that is a really, really important thing to be looking for. Does the suite become more important than the innovation? That's a great point. And the other thing that's interesting too is the whole workload conversation because if you bring this kind of analogy together is that the BlackBerry ran workloads, it ran email, and so those workloads were highly efficient on their device. Well, remember, actually, exchange ran the email, BlackBerry ran the presentation. So the BlackBerry application was simply taking something with somewhere else so it was easier to displace them when somebody came along with an alternative. There's a lot of holes in the analogy, but it does ring true because we all know what happened to BlackBerry. So the question that's on the table is you got to transform or die, right? I mean, this is clearly a lot of stakes that are at risk here, so, interesting conversation. So the question is Oracle being kind of proactive and aggressive enough, not just on the marketing front, but in innovation, because they sounded defensive, even heard yesterday, Mark heard yesterday said, what's painting that, basically we have a situation where IT is not growing, traditional IT, so we have to get into these new things, but are they? I think they're defensive, good point. And I think my observation, one, from doing all the CUBE interviews and covering Oracle deeply that we have been, is that I think they're being defensive for reasons of not making enough progress, and that's not a function of Oracle, it's a function of their build out, and Ray Wang pointed out that the progression of building the data centers and Larry's presentation hangs together if you're an Oracle customer. You're an Oracle customer, everything he said on stage actually makes a lot of sense, totally no problem with that. The other thing that Oracle is managing is the public perception on Wall Street around their growth prospects. So I think they're holding the line, they're over-amplifying their CNBC interview, you watch the CNBC interviews, you watch Bloomberg, Mark heard is messaging like a politician, there's no real substance to any future indication of the strategy. Now we all know what the strategy is, they are not even close to being ready to get to the cloud, and that's why they're staying with their core base first, but they are going into a position to be set up for a siege where they bring their database customers to the cloud. That's when the game will get interesting, when Oracle starts really having those foundational building blocks of infrastructure as a service, pass and sass, set up on Oracle first, then the net new application metric becomes, the net new customer metric becomes important, and then you start to see the real war going on, where then it's a frontal attack on Amazon. John, you're absolutely right, but again, there is an overarching user issue here. They may not like Oracle's pricing, they may not like negotiating with Oracle, especially in the database side, although I've heard recently, there's been some moderation in that, more about there's something of a doton going on right now, but again, there is not a user on the planet who wakes up and says, I can't wait for the fun of getting, of ripping out my Oracle applications and replacing them with something new. That's just not something that anybody would want. I 100% agree, and here's my analogy on that. The marketing cloud concept we had earlier and some of the other new stuff around Oracle is pretty exciting because they're talking about design, user experience, talking about some of the real interaction, engaging components of their software towards the front end, near the consumer. On the existing Oracle, I said this on the Cube, going back to 2010, Oracle's like plumbing and pipes. It runs the water, it feeds everything into the enterprise. Why would you want to rip out and replace something that's already working? What are you adding on to the plumbing? So as a utility, Oracle has a utility effect on some of these core systems, whether it's CRM, ERP, HCM, or whatever. I get that. I don't think that's at risk. I think if better plumbing comes along. But here's another. That's very true, but here's another way of looking at that exact point, John. In most businesses, your ERP application really is your infrastructure.  From your board of directors standpoint, from your CFO standpoint, in most of the business, the infrastructure is the ERP application. So when we all talk about infrastructure as a service, we're talking amongst ourselves about the role that Amazon's going to play, and it's important. They're having a major impact. New way of thinking about infrastructure at a technology level.  I mean, you said it earlier, the users at the center of the conversation, the customer, and here's my asset test for the monkey business that goes on between the suppliers, and it comes down to this. Whoever can enable value will do well, and customers don't mind paying for value, right? So the value equation is interesting. As a platform, if you're a platform as a service or whatever platform you are and you have infrastructure that's hardened or whatever happens, if you are creating value and enabling value for the customer in whatever form, ISVs, developers, other things, customers will pay for it. And I think what I'm hearing is customers are afraid that that enablement will be constrained somehow and boxed into a framework. The sweet versus innovation argument is made yesterday. And it's a really good point, and Rob, I'd like to hear what people are saying on the floor, because you've been wandering around more of the genre I have about this point specifically. That tension between where I am today and where I wanna go and whether or not they see Oracle, you said earlier, investing enough to maintain that stream of innovation that's becoming so important to articulating the next generation of what technology looks like. Well, like I say, there's a lot of uncertainty out there. As you say, I think a lot of them would, don't wanna move off of Oracle. I mean, they just want to be able to go to the next thing that they need to do, and analytics, big data, that sort of thing. And if Oracle can provide that, they're gonna go for it, right? I mean, why not? Why? You're absolutely right. So my question is, not knowing the technical ins and outs of what they're doing on that front is, are they going far enough on that front? I don't know yet. Rob, let me ask you a question for the folks watching. I know you're out doing, getting stories. People always try to get us to look at their stuff, get attention. As someone who's doing the reporting out there and leading the editorial for at Silicon Angle, what do you look for when you come into Oracle Open World, and you come in objectively looking at the signals, what do you look for in stories? How do you take the size of the show? Because now, Amazon started this. These shows are so big now, there's a slew of announcements. I mean, we were talking about the number of releases going out alone. Okay, there you go. There's 12 releases of this. How do you make that decision editorially to where the stories are? Well, it is overwhelming. I mean, I kind of drowned on Sunday night, and I think Larry did too. You could tell he was sort of saying, oh no, another slide. But in the end, they were mostly announcing customer relationships, partner relationships, some new technology. I look for one, the new technology. I mean, I want to know what's real here. Can't know from a press release, but you can get a sense of that. But a lot of it's a business aspect. You know, this has to work for businesses, and so I want to know, is this going to move the needle on Oracle and their growth? Is it going to keep them in the mix? That's what I care about. Great, thanks for that. Peter, what's missing? What are we not hearing here in this show that you expected to hear more of, or you think is an area that Oracle will have to flesh out as they go forward? Well, so we heard this really nice comprehensive vision of Oracle moving into the cloud and moving their customers in the cloud, and very importantly, their partners into the cloud. So that's really positive. What we didn't hear as much of is two things, and one is really crucial to the strategy, and maybe you heard some of this, Rob. But I'll do the first one and then that one. The first one is, we're only hinting at how developers are going to do things differently as a consequence of Oracle's move into the cloud. We're hearing yes, we're going to support all the languages, and yes, we're going to do all the databases going to be there, but just hints. And the developer ecosystem is still something that everybody's making a play for. Nobody has really put their stake in the ground and said, this is how we're going to do it. Amazon's play is, don't worry about IT, come to the cloud, get to what you need, build your application, make your business happy. Oracle is, and this is a segue to the other point, Oracle is more of a traditionalist than if they've got developers, they want to give them the tools that they need, bring their tools along. I expected to hear more about that, but the number two is, in many respects, as I just said, Amazon's play is, okay, IT, if you want to modernize, come work with us, but business, if you don't want to wait for IT, you have another option, you can come to us directly. Many years ago, IBM tried to play the hand that they were going to bring the IT professional along with them as they went through a transition. And they did a pretty decent job of it. This time, it's pretty much up to Oracle, I would say, to bring IT, the traditional IT manager along with them. So they're not only modernizing Oracle, they're, in many respects, modernizing their traditional customers. That's not necessarily, that's not going to be a particularly easy job, but a lot will go along with it. And we'll see the degree to which Amazon starts to fight, not just for the hearts and minds of business, but the hearts and minds of technology, you know, IT people as well. It's an interesting dynamic to see. Well, they hit the job, they hit the job. I'm sorry, answer your question directly. I expected to see more about how they were going to bring along IT people. Yeah, and I agree with that developer thing. They have Java One. So when the people say, hey, we're all developers, the comment I heard was, oh, they're all at Java One. Here's what Oracle has to do in my opinion. They have to integrate the goodness of Java One into this show because if they want to be successful in the cloud and take on Amazon and others, at the platform as a service level, this is the new middleware.  They're going to need to fortify the past layer with developers and their ISV. So that's existing ISVs and new developers. And I hear zero value proposition coming out of this show around that particular piece. I think it's a major area of improvement Oracle needs to do. And if they want to win the hearts and minds of the developer, that is key because the cloud is about DevOps. You can automate the way IT and bring them along, but applications, the core bread and butter of Oracle that takes advantage of the database is coming from developers. John, I think that's a great point. We heard in the queue yesterday very, you know, we said, so where is the line between IAAS and PAS? So it's kind of blurring. And then we said, no, well, which is going to be PAS or IAAS? And the queue just came back and said, we're thinking it's going to be PAS, which it may very well be, but that's not what the interest is thinking right now. That's going to be up to Oracle to make that thing. The fact that Ray went to end the segment is that Ray was commenting and I agree with him. I think your point about the coherent message. Oracle doesn't want to over rotate and get ahead of their skis on this one because they're sequencing this play out very carefully. A lot's at stake. Foundationally build the building blocks, get their existing infrastructure service built out, then you're going to start to see the game change. So I think, you know, Oracle's doing, I think the right thing and their progress, I don't think it has anything to do with Oracle per se. I think they have build out issues and it's still early. So I'm not going to judge them on that. I think I like what I'm hearing and they're doing Oracle on Oracle first and then attacking the competition with the FUD to try to set expectations. And again, Herd is keeping Wall Street at bay, kind of keeping them down while they tool up and build out. So yeah, great stuff. Rob, thanks for coming on and sharing your notes from the reporter notebook out in the field, writing stories. He just wrote a post on the keynote just now and the headline is my favorite headline of the week, you're locked in, baby, Oracle's Larry Ellison. Read Devil's Attack on AWS. That really is the top story here at the keynote. Heater, thanks for the commentary. Right back with more live coverage here on theCUBE, live in San Francisco, live coverage of Oracle Open World. Be right back. You're watching theCUBE.


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I've just uh, I'm in a graveyard. Let's get the cut off. Let's take this serious mate We're in lockdown so Camping and all that's out the question. So what I thought I'd do and it's something that I've been thinking about for a while And it's something that I like to discuss with there with anyone who'll listen to me Is your top five items top five Survival bushcraft Camping items that you would take with you in an emergency or things that are just gonna last You know that that's sure alone or whatever it's called alone. Is it alone like that where you take You take stuff Pack a condom some Pringles, whatever So this is mine. I've come up with my I've come up with me top five and And it's been changing this I've been thinking about it for a few days and it's It's sort of changed a little bit and this is my final five last answer Chris Tarrant. I've had a good day I'm off see you later cheers Five right and without further ado. I've got them all in my bag Let's get into it and this is in no particular order I've gone for things that You know that have multiple uses that They're essential to me anyway should have got all this out before on shouldn't I But there you go, never mind I hope you're all doing well anyway, right, let's get into it then so Well, this isn't wrong like this. Sorry each This look at this mate. I'm in this cool cool old graveyard That it's a totally abandoned no one comes here Middle of countryside. Maybe I'll do a wild camp here. That might be a bit. Yeah wild camping a graveyard Gives a thumbs up if you want to see me while camping in this graveyard Cack it Sidetracked right first thing on the list is a pot my zebra Billy can The reason being is that you're gonna need something to carry Water in to boil your water. You can cook food in it if I'm at the coast and I'm walking around I can chuck shellfish and seaweed and bits and pieces in there and it's essential because I Haven't got a water purifier In my top five. So I would have to make one with charcoal and grass and Whatever it may be I can make a water purifier But then I'll have to boil it and this will be perfect for that And I can drink out of it eat out of it and it It's not it's not using the word bomb proof because I'm sure a scud missile could take that out, but It's it's a sturdy bit of kit And that is coming with me that is coming with me. I'm just kneeling down here Just kneeling down in a in a graveyard Also, I'm trying not to walk on the gravestones and pain pain my respects And being respectful of the of the of the memories of the people that have Absent friends gone but not forgotten. Well, maybe forgotten actually You've only got a few generations and then you're gone at you unless you're on Instagram and Facebook and that these days Be harder to erase your memory Anyway This is I should have planned this a little bit better. She's I'm getting sidetracked a bit, but my second item is Is a tar not an extra light tar for anything like this is the the DD free-by-free camo tar Myriad of different uses I could get for this. It's an instant shelter So it's going to protect me from the rain. It can be a ground sheet I can use it to if you lay it down to collect water You could lay it on the ground and let all the bugs come and nestle under it take them. That's nutrients You can wrap it around you put it right there's there's loads of different things you could do with it You can have it as a little bivvy bag the different ways you can set it up to there's so many Because of all the different tie-out points you could you can just have it to suit your situation Whether that's on the beach using a stick or we're on the side of a cliff or using rocks or whatever it may be Free by free tarp is coming with me if I was choosing properly. I'd probably even go with a four by four And create a proper like living area underneath you so the next one is Because I thought about this. I'm gonna have to stay warm is a 100% pure wool blanket again multiple uses You've seen me before use it as a as a hoodie or a coat keeps you warm Fire retardant Keeps you warm even when wet And we could string this up you could use it as a hammock you can string it up as a hammock Wrap it round you to keep you warm use it as a sling a Stretcher there's all sorts of different things you could do with this as well So it's versatile and that's the key. That's what I was thinking about When choosing all these items is the versatility of them. They're not just a one-it wonder wool blanket item number three Right, this one took a little bit of a little bit of thinking because I was flitting between right I'm gonna need something to cut with Do I get get in here? Do I use an axe or a knife and up until yesterday? I was on I was I was sold on the axe because I thought it's more robust It can still cut but I can use it for you know hammering pegs in and whatnot But then I thought Actually, I can make something I can make a tool to hammer stuff in and do all the hammering that an axe can do a knife is just a Little bit more Accessible it's easy to access transport around and you can do finer work with it and so I've chosen knife and I've chose Not the SE3 Not me new knife Amanda new knife But something akin to this This is by my boy Luke at York Knife's and he's given me these ages ago It's one of his it's one of his early specimens and the reason that I've chose this is because it's five mil thick So I can use that Pretty much as an axe I can batten the living daylights out of that split wood with it and It's a scandy grind so it's gonna it's still I Can still choke up on it and get some some finer work done And it's just easier than an axe to carry around and that's just my preference and more I lean more towards the knives than an axe So that is item number item number four a Thick five mil so like the SE5 the SE5 would be a classic example Of a robust knife that isn't gonna let you down. It's not gonna break you can use it as a crowbar So a five mil thick knife item number four Here we go flying through this so item number five Again, I did think about this and at one point it was going to be a water purifier But then I thought that's not gonna last Eventually that will run out Sir This You're gonna need fire fire is essential and although I could do burr drill. It's In the depths of winter Every time you want to get a fire going doing a burr drill would just be a chore so a fire steel and I've gone for this one, which you may have seen me use Before and I've gone for this one because look at the size of that It's an absolute barge pole of a thing and that I mean you'd be struggling you would struggle to use all that in your lifetime There's so many strikes on it.  You can see that it's Probably karks focusing issues, but you can see how much it's worn down But still that's got so much life left in it and that's after years of use so you can imagine Something like that That's lasting you a lifetime and it's big enough to not miss place You can also use it as a bit of a thwatter if you need to if you need to And that Is item number five and I've thought about this I have spent a lot of time thinking like which what five items and there's been things that have come and gone from that but I Think that's my top five when we get out of winter and out of lockdown I might just do I'll do and I'll do a camp just with them five items and put it to the test Shall I tag a few people in it or not? How should we not bother with that? Nah, I won't tag anyone, but if you want to do it if you're watching and you've got a you know, you want to Do it then do it and to tag me in it or let me know shoot me over your video of your five your your top five for survival wherever you are in the world it'd be interesting to see if you're in Canada or America or You know Bulgaria Uncle Bulgaria wherever you are to see how it would change depending on Your location I might be quite interesting So but that's it mate. That's it. So just to recap Zebra Billy can wool blanket Thick five mil knife decent fire steel And a decent tarp Five items to stay alive five to stay alive Hey, that's a thumbnail like any that's I mean, that's the title five to stay alive Right it's a lovely day I did just pop out to go through these these five items with you But it's such a lovely day. I've been there sidetracked looking for mushrooms in these fields But we the first frosts have started to come now So some of the big players are getting wiped out anyway Don't talk about that don't need to know right. That's it if you want to do your top five Top five survival bushcrafty items tag mean it or just let me know about it then that'd be cool to see and Lockdown is over next week and I'm off out As soon as it's over We've managed to get Joey D out for one more one more camp before he comes a daddy part, too so stay tuned for that and Look after yourselves up. You're all still Taking care of yourselves and fighting the good fight in these trouble times much love Or a voire fascinating place, mate. We respect respect From up if you want to see shall I camp if gives it thumbs up if you want to see me camping in here in abandoned graveyard Might be pretty cool. Anyway, take it easy. See you later You


Live from San Jose, in the heart of Silicon Valley, it's theCUBE, covering DataWorks Summit 2017, brought to you by Hortonworks. Hey, welcome back to theCUBE. We are live on day one of the DataWorks Summit in the heart of Silicon Valley. I'm Lisa Martin with my co-host, Peter Burris, just chatting with our next guest about the Warriors win yesterday. We're also pretty excited about that. Please welcome, David, see the SVP of marketing from CUBE. Hey, David. Hey, thanks for having me. We're glad that you still have a voice after no doubt cheering on the whole team last night. It was a close call because I was yelling pretty loud yesterday. So talk to us about your, the SVP of marketing for CUBE. Big data platform in the cloud.  What are your thoughts? What's going on with CUBE? What's going on with big data? What are you seeing in the market? So, you know, we're a cloud native data platform. And, you know, when we talk to customers, we're really, you know, they're really complaining about how they're just struggling with complexity and the barriers to entry.  And, you know, the good news I suppose is, you know, we're in an industry that has a very high pace of innovation. That's great, right? You know, Spark has had eight versions now in two years. But that pace of innovation is, you know, making the complexity even harder. I was watching, you know, Cloudera bragging about how their new product is a combination of 24 open source projects. You know, that's tough stuff, right?  You know, the source code's public. You have all these options and configuration settings, et cetera. But moving those into production and then scaling them in a reliable way is just crushing practitioners. And so data teams are suffering.  Think about that. Like, what industry can survive when, you know, 70 or 80% of the projects fail? Well, I think, let's, let's, let me push on a little bit. Cause I think that the concern is about, is not about 70 to 80% of the, of the efforts to reach an answer in a complex big data thing is going to fail. We can probably accommodate that, but what we can accommodate is failure in the underlying infrastructure. Absolutely. So the research we've done, you know, suggests something as well that we are seeing an enormous amount of time spent on the underlying infrastructure. And there's a lot of failures there. People that say, I have a question. I want to know if there's an answer. And then trying to get to that answer and not getting the answer they want or getting a different answer. That kind of failure is still okay. Because that's experience. We're getting more and more and more. So it's not the failure in the data science side or in the application side. I would say like getting to an answer you don't like is a form of success. Right? Like you have an idea, you try it out. That's all great. So it's just testing. What Gartner is really saying is it's failure in the implementation of the infrastructure side. So it's the administrative and the operational side. It's a project that didn't deliver an end result and if the end result is what you hoped, great. If it was, you know. You proved it. Exactly. Couldn't even answer the question. So let me test something on you, Dave. David, we've been carrying a thesis at Wikibon for a while that it looks like open source is proving that it's very good at mimicking and not quite as good at inventing. Right. So by that I mean that if you put an operate if you drop an operating system in front of line of store vault you can look at that and say, I can do that. Right. And do a great job of it. If you put a development tool same kind of a thing. But big data is very, very complex. A lot of enormous number of use cases and open source has done a good job at a tool level. And it looks as though the tools are being built to make other tools more valuable as opposed to making it easy for a business to operationalize data science and the use of big data in their business. Would you agree or disagree with that? Yeah, I think that's sort of like fundamental to the philosophy of open source. You know, I'm going to do my work something I need for me but I'm going to share it with everybody else and they can contribute. But at the end of the day unlike commercial software there's sort of no one throat to choke. Right. And there's nobody who is going to guarantee the interoperability and the success of the piece of software that you're trying to deploy. There's not even a real coherent vision in many respects about what the final product is going to look like. So you know, what you have is a lot of really great cutting edge technology that a lot of really smart people have sort of poured their heart and souls to but that's a little different than trying to get to an end result.  Open source being philosophically very different I think breeds inherent complexity and that complexity right now is I think at the root of the problem in our industry. So give us an example, David.  Give us an example of a customer maybe one of your favorite examples where where are you helping them? They're struggling here. They've made significant investments from an infrastructure perspective. They know there's value in the data of varying degrees as we've talked about before. How does does Keeble get in there and start helping this use case customer start to optimize and really start making this big data project successful? That's a great question. So there's really two things. Number one is, you know, we are a SaaS based platform in the cloud and what we do basically is make big data into more of a turnkey service. So actually the other day I was sort of surfing the internet and we have a customer from Sonic Drive-In. You know, they do hamburgers and stuff. Oh yeah. And they're doing a bunch of big data and this guy was at a data science meetup talking about, and we didn't put him up to this. He just volunteered and stuff. He was talking about how we've made his life so much easier. Why? Because all of the configuration stuff and the settings and how to manage costs was basically filling out a form and setting policy and parameters and not having to write scripts and figure out all these configuration settings. And if I set this one this way and that one that way, what happens? You know, we have a sort of more curated environment that makes that easy. But the thing that I'm really excited about is we think this is the time to really look at having data platforms that can build, that can run autonomously. Today, companies have to hire really expensive, really highly skilled, super smart data engineers and data ops people to run their infrastructure. And you know, if you look at studies we're about 180,000 people short of the number of data engineers and data ops people this industry needs. So trying to scale by adding more smart people super hard, right? But instead, if you could start to get machines to do what people are doing just faster, cheaper, more reliably then you can scale your data platform. So we basically made an announcement a couple weeks ago about kind of the industry's first autonomous data platform and what we're building are software agents that can take over certain types of data management tasks so that data engineers don't have to do it or don't have to be up at three in the morning making sure everything's going right. And from a market segmentation perspective where's the sweet spot for that? Enterprise, SMB, somewhere in the pool. Oh, the bigger you have to scale. It's not about company size, it's really about sort of the scope and scale of your big data effort. So the more people you have using it and the more data you have, the more you want automation to make things easier. It's sort of true of any industry, it's certainly going to be true of the big data industry. Yeah, the more complexity in the question set. Correct. The more complexity. The more users you have, the more teams you have or data sources. Presumably that's going to be correlated. Absolutely, correct. Which is, we can use a big data project to really ascertain that. Correct, well in fact that's sort of what we're doing. So because we're a SaaS platform we take in the metadata from what our customers are doing. What users, what clusters, what queries, which tables, all that stuff. And we basically use machine learning and artificial intelligence to analyze how you're using your data platform and tell you what you can do better or automate stuff that you don't have to do anymore. So we've presumed that the industry at some point in time, the big data industry at some point in time was going to start moving his attention to things like machine learning and AI. You know, up into applications. Are we going to see the big data industry basically more pretty rapidly into more of a service or application conversation? Or is it going to kind of, are we going to see a rebirth as folks try to bring a more coherent approach to the existing, you know, many of the tools that are here right now? What do you think? Oh, I think we're going to see some degree of industry consolidation and you're going to see vendors, you know, and you seeing it today, you know, trying to simplify and consolidate, right? And so some of that's moving up the stack towards applications. Some of that's about sort of repackaging their offerings and, you know, adding simplicity. It's about using artificial intelligence to make the operation of the platform itself easier. I think you'll see a variety of those things because, you know, companies have too many places where they can stumble in their deployment.  So as you think about it, what is, I mean, I have my own idea, but what do you think the metric that businesses should be using as they conceive of how to source different tools and invest in different tools, put things together? I think it's increasing, we're going to talk about time to value. What do you think? I think time to value is one. I think another one you could look at is the number of people who have access to the data to create insights, right? So, you know, if you can say 100% of my company has access to the data and analytics that they need to, you know, help their function run better, whatever it is, that's a pretty awesome accomplishment. And, you know, there's a bunch of people who may or may not have 100%, but they're pretty close, right?  And then you have lots of companies who are sort of stuck with, okay, we have this use case running, thank goodness, took us two years and a couple million bucks. And now they're trying to figure out how they get to the next step. And so they have five users, you know, who are able to use their data platform successfully. That's, you know, I think that's a big measure of success. So, I want to talk quickly about, if I may, about the cloud, because it's pretty clear that there are a number of, that there's some very, very large shops that are starting to conceive of important parts of their overall approach to data and putting things into the cloud. There's a lot of advantages of doing it that way. At the same time, they're also thinking about and how am I going to integrate the models that I generate out of big data back into applications that might be running in a lot of different places. That suggests that there's going to be a new challenge on the horizon of how do we think about end-to-end bringing applications together with predictable data movement and control and other types of activities. Do you agree that that's on the horizon of how we think about end-to-end performance across multiple different clouds? I think that's coming. I think that I'm still surprised at how many people have not figured out that the economic and agility advantages of cloud are so great that you'd be honestly foolish not to consider a cloud and have a proactive way to migrate there. And so there's just a shocking amount of companies who are still plotting away, building their on-prem infrastructures, et cetera. And they still have hesitancy and questions about the cloud. I do think that you're right, but I think what you're talking about is three to five years out from the mainstream of the industry. Certainly the early adopters who have sort of gotten there, they're talking about that now. But it's sort of a mainstream phenomenon. I think that's a couple of years out. Excuse me, Peter. One of the things that just kind of made me think of was these companies that we were saying there's a lot that still have hesitancies regarding cloud. Kind of vendor lock and pop into my head. And that kind of brought me back to one of the things that you were mentioning in the beginning, open source complexity there. Are you seeing or are you helping companies to go back to more of that commercialized proprietary software? Are you seeing a shift in enterprises being less concerned about lock-in because they want more simplicity? You know, it's a great question. I think in the big data space, hard to avoid sort of going down the open source path, right? I think what people are getting more concerned about actually is being locked into a single cloud vendor. And so more and more of the conversations we have are about what are your multi-cloud and eventually cross-cloud capabilities? That's a question I just asked. Right, exactly. And so I think more and more that's coming to the front. I was with a very large healthcare company a week ago and I said, what's your cloud strategy? And they said, well, we have a no vendor left behind policy. So, you know, we're standardized on Azure. We've got a bunch of pilots on AWS and we're planning to move, you know, from a data warehousing vendor to Oracle in the cloud. So, you know, I think for large companies, a lot of them can't control the fact that different divisions, departments, whatever, will use different clouds. And so architecturally, they're going to have to start to think about these sort of multi-cloud, cross-cloud scenarios.   Well, in fairness, they don't have that many, so. They don't. But it only takes one, right? That's right, that's right. And there's reasons to suspect that there will be increased specialization of services in the cloud. Correct. So, I mean, it's going to get more complex in the cloud as well. Correct. Not less. Well, David C, SVP of Marketing at KubeL. Thank you so much for joining and sharing your insights with Peter and myself. It's been very insightful. So this is another great example of how we've been talking about the lawyers and food. Sonic was brought up into play here in this. Exactly. Very exciting. You never know what's going to happen on the Kube. So for David and Peter, I'm Lisa Martin. You're watching day one of the data work summit in the heart of Silicon Valley. And stick around because we've got more great content coming your way.