think my first job is to tell you that we're gonna leave plenty of time for you to ask questions and if you have them you should fill out cards and give them to the folks who are collecting the cards. Cynthia is back there she is one of those people but the first question that I have to just get the ball rolling um as as was said before you've been working on this film for for more than 10 years and it was completed in May 2016 well before November 2016. Does it feel more timely than you could ever have imagined it would be? Well I guess Dateline Saigon is the unexpected and unanticipated beneficiary of the Trump election so perhaps some small good thing has come out of it. No I had no idea that that what would be present today would be present today when I started this film it really came out of a couple of thoughts I had. I had spent a few weeks in Vietnam as a field producer for CNN covering one of the anniversaries of the end of the war and I met a lot of reporters some of them had covered the war and were back for a reunion a number of others were still working journalists and I heard some terrific stories especially some of them quite late at night at the top of the Rex Hotel outside the bar probably some of which were even true and I thought I wanted to capture some of these stories I also came to some sort of a political consciousness during the Vietnam War I remember when I was oh I think in eighth grade arguing with a camp director about the importance of stopping the communists and beating the communists in Vietnam and why we had to support what our government was doing and only a few years later I was marching in the streets against the war so this was an opportunity for me to go back and say what happened and give me a chance to look at it all over again and try to figure out what happened to me and what happened to the country. This one I sort of have mostly for you Joel but it's of course open to everybody. This film looks at an era in which reporters in a conflict zone had for time unfettered access and then the more truth they revealed the more better their access became and obviously for journalists today access remains limited at best even not in war zones and is often sort of highly curated and manipulated is you know what can we learn you know both in conflict zones and out of them you know what can today's journalists take from their experience and their solutions. Well that's a that's a pretty big question but so let me before let me make another observation about about what was portrayed in that film which was just how anomalous that moment was really for the media I mean you have to remember you know 15 years before you know during World War two there was a national censorship board journalists did not cover conflict independently it was it was a concept that really basically didn't exist if you were covering a military conflict as an American journalist you wore the uniform of the military and the Geneva conventions which were ratified after the First World War codified that relationship they basically said that journalists who were accompanying military forces and wore the uniform of that military force would be treated as if they were captured as prisoners of war and this was considered a great protection for journalists because prior to the cut the development of these this specific aspect of the Geneva Convention journalists could be executed as spies so this was a protection and then you look at at Vietnam and that was really the transition there you see that when the journalists are out there covering conflict they're often wearing uniforms Neil Sheehan was talking about you know picking up a weapon to defend himself they they you know they went out and they had a certain identification I mean with with the military but they you know the reality that they encountered caused them to redefine their own relationship and and then here's what was what's what's really amazing is in 1977 there was an additional protocol to the Geneva Convention and that codified that relationship in international law it was a new provision that basically said that journalists who accompanied who covered conflict independently in other words were not incorporated into the military force must be treated as civilians and so that kind of relationship and and that still exists today there are two ways in which journalists cover conflict both as incorporated into the military forces and independently and you have different kinds of protections depending on the way in which you you you function as a journalist but but Vietnam completely changed the course and and redefined the relationship that the media has to the coverage of armed conflict that despite the challenges we we can talk about those in a moment and and there's certainly a very significant Vietnam in so many aspects but in that one in particular was it was it was a sea change if I could follow up on that Robin and well first of all congratulations on a really amazing work and the fact that it took 10 years shows in in the film but to follow up on what Joe was saying one of the things that struck me watching it and I'm still processing it now because I just saw it for the first time but one of the things that really struck me was that in in one sense these correspondents are much more cynical than their peers in the sense that they were mistrustful or they grew to be mistrustful of what the government was saying compared to the Time Magazine correspondent they were more skeptical they they became disillusioned perhaps that an earlier date than than others and yet on another sense I was struck by watching their testimony that they were also so much more naive than than we are now and that they didn't see what was coming they didn't know the depths of government lying they they were shocked by the deception that they did greet but they had no idea how far would that go and they had no idea how how much division there could be within the country about a war because they were coming off their experience in Korea or World War two and they were also naive in a way and in a sense that they believe that if they just told the truth that this would have an effect which we're not allowed to have that illusion now because lots of times journalists tell the truth and it doesn't have any effect so that's one of the things I thought was so amazingly effective about your film is that it portrayed these young men these correspondence as both more cynical and kind of seen through things but also completely naive actually that sort of answers the question that I was going to ask you so I'll just jump to the next one which is that this film shows reporters dealing with a White House or maybe we should say another White House that that tries to dismiss facts or treat them treats them as a point of view how do you see this as being you know the same or different from what we are grappling with now well I'll try to take that first I I think that given the attitude of the current administration calling the enemy calling the press the enemy of the people the stakes have have been raised the electricity amount of electricity has been raised I think it's and this is my own personal feeling having examined what happened what we saw in this film 50 years ago and now I think it's a lot worse we did hear President Kennedy being frustrated and and his cabinet being frustrated because these reporters were were in inconvenience and but I think it's it's gotten a lot worse now and I think it's a lot more dangerous now that which the White House is doing one observation I had was about the size of that I mean you were focused on five journalists and there were there were others there but there wasn't there weren't a large number it was a relatively small number and I mean this is just a more general observation about how the how the media landscape work but I mean the the perceptions of these individuals were so powerful that they transformed the way the whole country perceived the conflict and I think that that it was precisely that which you can hear that in the way for that you know Kennedy and and and with George Bundy and the officials talk about it is you know these are a bunch of kids you know what are they now and they're having such influence over over over the way the entire country you know the you know understands events that are taking place now and now when you look at the media landscape and just how fractured and and complex it is and how how there's so many competing narratives battling each other it's it's it's just it's just amazing to contemplate that the power that that small group of individuals had to shape our perceptions of those events yeah what's what strikes me is that Kennedy was concerned about the conflict between the image of the war that he and his advisors were trying to present and then the shattering of that image by the correspondents like Habelsstrem and his and his colleagues and and that was a problem that was that was a that was something that he he tried to muse about with his advisors what's what's different today is that the current occupant of that office wouldn't be so much concerned with that as as how to discredit those reporters and make sure that his supporters didn't believe anything they said where that didn't seem to occur to Kennedy it's like let's make war on Habersstrem that wasn't one of the options on the table and I think that's did lean on the you saw he tried to prevent them from doing it yeah I don't know about that because I think that they they they certainly used you saw that there was a you know time magazine was portrayed as you know undermining and and and basically carrying water for right and that was if you I mean the reporters thought that was very deliberate they thought they were being manipulated those journals were being manipulated into sort of undermining the narrative that they were trying to present yeah but but conducting culture war against David Habersstrem wasn't like an option on the table yeah it's true for for Kennedy let me just pivot back to the point about naivete when these these were young men and they were really the first to be skeptical of the war there was a comment made by Neil Sheehan I believe later in the film saying we were outliers maybe it was David and they really were 90 percent of the coverage of the early years through 6566 was very favorable to to the American government position these people were really on the outside and and in terms of naivete when they came over and I think David Habersstrem very emotionally as did Neil talk about how they wanted to believe what the government was saying they they were boys during World War two they came to a patriotic consciousness then they they were young men when during the Cold War so they were really cold warriors it took them a while they went over there and initially were all reporting favorably so they all went through something of a crisis of conscience themselves to come to report so critically I've got one more and then I'm gonna open it up at the end of the film David Habersstrem says when the government is telling the truth reporters become a relatively unimportant conduit to what is happening but when the government doesn't tell the truth begins to twist the truth hide the truth then the journalist becomes involuntarily infinitely more important how should we look upon our new era of involuntary importance I suppose is the optimistic way of looking at our current situation well David's words are ever so much more important today that was shortly before he was killed I think we shot that in 2007 David the 10th anniversary of David's death was just last week by the way so was it was very shortly before before it happened please I don't want to love any of you comment on that I think it's the emotional heart of the film I mean I think that's the you know that's that's when everything comes together and you set it up brilliantly because that in a way that's that that perception is the beginning of the adversarial press the idea of an adversarial press and I think what we're grappling with now is that we have an adversarial press but there's a another like an further evolution where the government is trying to discredit not only discredit that press but break off a portion of the public and so that the president our current president can speak directly to that 20 to 40 percent of his base and make the president the primary source of information for that base about what the White House is doing that is an amazing development in the history of the adversarial press but I think it's incredible that you've that you that you got that quote from from Haberstain because because that's the origin of something that now is like in peril it's in peril yeah I think that that really was the the the essence and the kind that you know the kind of lesson that is the straight line from you know Vietnam to Watergate to the kind of modern can you know framework that that many journalists have when they decide that this is the profession that they want to pursue but you know another moment that resonated for me in the film was and I don't remember who it was it might have been how were some of it I don't recall was talking about how personally painful it was to feel the kind of orchestrated criticism if you will of their role and their efforts and how they felt in their own minds that they were engaged in a kind of patriotic exercise and how how just undermined and demoralized they were but by those attacks and I think that you know we're living through that now on it on it you know on a massive and unprecedented scale because it's orchestrated and it's systematic and it's deliberate and it's not in effort to undermine the work of a handful of specific reporters who are reporting things you know that the government might find objectionable it is the entire institution and the whole exercise of independent journalism that's that's under attack and so that that was a moment another moment in the film that resonated powerfully yeah it's not just they're under attack it's it's a coordinated assault that starts at the very top of the hierarchy with the president of the United States leading the charge in a way with the press as enemy of the people then you have at the base of the pyramid you have an army of online activists trolls bots foreign agents trying to discredit the press attack stories that they don't like and then in the middle mediating between the top and the base you have institutions like rush lombard talk radio daily caller drudge bright part etc that that mediate between the top and the base that's like far more sophisticated operation than just attacking reporters that you don't like so that's another sense in which they're they're they're sadness about about being attacked for telling the truth is almost naive right compared to what we face today all right let's let's take some questions okay this is for Tom as the film says your five heroes were among the US press corps as a whole exceptional most of the White House reporter most of the Vietnam reporters sorry swallowed the Pentagon line why do you think that was and why didn't more of the others experience crises of conscience well I for one one thing these five individuals were extraordinary reporters extraordinary human beings they were very courageous they they looked inward they analyzed things they didn't accept they didn't go to press conferences and repeat the press conferences and their dispatches I so perhaps that's the most important reason and then I another part of it and I'd like to hear the other panelists so you on it as well is most of the others were under pressure from their their news gathering organizations whether for example in this film we saw the UPI but there were also many other print publications which didn't want to have the government criticized and wanted to have stories of the hometown boys and they were mostly boys back then I mean not that's I don't think I can elaborate further since you know this this is your your story and I don't know what motivated the other reporters but I mean just again taking drawing drawing from the film and knowing Peter I mean Peter I'm not certainly was you know one of the founders of CPJ and I work you know work with him and traveled with him on CPJ missions you know he was just one he's one of the most intrepid reporters ever in the history of reporting and and I I the other the other reporters you portrayed in the film sort of have that same approach I doubt there were many people who frankly you know had the had the guts and the and and and the and the kind of determination to get out there and see for themselves and you know that's that's a dichotomy that still exists today in journalism you know the people who go out there and want to see it with their own eyes and want to experience it than the people who you know are like to you know maybe get the more official version or comment so that was just a really a takeaway from the film yeah I have reporters have this interesting expression foreign correspondence of going out which means a lot different than what it would mean to an adolescent teenager so going out is leaving the press room leaving the official confines of your beat and going out into the countryside into the into the danger but I want by way of commenting on your marks Tom competition means something very strange within the world of beat journalism reporters think of themselves as intensely competitive creatures like nobody in the world is more competitive than they are but what they mean by competition is everybody who competes for the same story but wants to get it five minutes sooner right it competition doesn't mean a totally different definition of the story or a completely different sense of who's believable or where the truth lies that they don't compete on those grounds they compete on grounds of everybody kind of agrees with the story is and then I try to get it five minutes before you so what's what's different about these reporters is that they were competing on premises on credibility on who's credible on on the entire thrust of the narrative one other point that I that I do want to make is that so many of the reporters as as so many as the majority the vast majority of people in this country were caught up in in the Cold War were caught up in understanding that it was us against the Soviets or us against the Chinese and that colored the whole philosophy it covered colored their reporting Halberstam Sheehan Peter Arnett and the others were able to break through that it wasn't easy for them but I think it's a lesson and I've talked to to to other reporters who are covering conflict today who are struggling to sort of break through the accepted wisdom to see what the real truth behind it is I just know that the thing that most again I don't remember who said but you know think that most offended one of the one of the reporters was the implication that they were sitting in the bar getting that that was a grave grave insult after they'd you know risk the butt to go out there and tell those stories hi so I'm gonna actually read the questions that I've collected some of them are actually for Robin and I'll still be coming around to collect more so this one is for Robin a fair amount of research in political science suggests that facts have a little influence on the partisan positions of motivated reasoners how does pro-publica contend with this phenomenon actually don't think that we sort of buy into that notion I think that we there there are definitely people who maybe cannot be reached by facts because they are so sort of either extreme or or just cemented to the ground in their in their views but I actually think that we have found that lots of people can be persuaded by fresh facts ultimately I guess we on some level have we need to believe that because we're gonna keep presenting facts we love them we're we're sort of addicted to them and we can't quit them to broke back mountain it but I think that we actually feel like you know facts combined with moving and powerful storytelling continue to bring us greater and greater readership so we we have every reason to believe that that we haven't we haven't reached the last person that we that we possibly can't so there's a little dash of optimism okay another question over here for anyone in the panel about 15 minutes left so maybe whoever jumps in first obviously the White House deeming the media the enemy makes for a very different journalistic climate but do you think it's harder for journalists to speak truth to power and shine a light on world conflicts in an era when it does feel like a lot of mainstream media has an agenda often based on the news of those who fund their these source their sources where does this leave us in our search for the truth well I think it's important to distinguish between journalism as a craft and occupation with a calling and the media as a sort of industrial complex that monetizes our attention and a lot of journalists have to work for the media because that's where the jobs are but they're calling and their principles sometimes cut in a different direction and so they're caught in this institutional setting where what they might want to do and what the employer requires them to do is not exactly the same thing so lots of times what they end up reporting is sort of a hybrid product between what what they would do as journalists and what the media requires of them as an industry and I think a lot of viewers listeners readers users of the product are totally onto this and this is one of the reasons why trust in the news media is declining and this is this is one of the reasons why we're searching for alternative business models that would allow journalists do what they what they ought to do but when people perceive commercial imperatives overcoming journalistic truth they're not wrong so we have room for about two more questions some of these are difficult to read so I'm gonna do my best okay this is for Tom and the panel do you feel the massive shift of public opinion during the Vietnam War due in part to the reportage of these five journalists had more residents than today because the stakes were higher for the draft age for men look I I think it continues to be debated and and I debated it with the people you saw on the screen whether they're what the impact of their reporting was each of them to a person felt that they failed to to break through with their print reporting at any rate Mal Brown talked about this a bit at the end of the film and once he was able to to get on TV he saw it had a much much more powerful impact Halberstam said the same thing oh I I'm struggling with with trying to come to to a conclusion to an answer that question maybe I'll pass it off to one of you two one of the three of you it's it's it's difficult for me to to assess the answer to that well I I remember my brother registering for the draft and I remember I was too young but he had a number in the in the draft and I remember us hoping his number was low or high whatever it would be to you know exempt you from the Vietnam War and I do think that that sense that not everybody is eligible to fight I think that has an effect on how people view America's entry into violent conflict and and I think that does change change the politics of it yeah I mean in some in some ways it seemed that the you know the resistance came from the notion that this war was unwinnable you know that it was it was not the fact that people were dying it was that people you know to take John Kerry's crib and we're dying for no reason you know so and I think that was a narrative that that that you know was created by you see you see the beginnings of that here and certainly as the war progressed you know that became dominant and I think you know if you if you think that you're being asked to make a sacrifice for your country you want it to be meaningful and if what you're encountering in the press is that it's pointless that's that's got to create a that's got to feel very real and I think what because of the draft many more people were involved in the war than are involved in our wars today so it touched many more families which caused many more people to pay attention and once people started paying attention with the groundwork that the the people we saw in this film was being laid by them and then others who came after were really reporting from from a point of view that had been established so it all it kept building and we kept not winning yeah and World War I World War II Korean War you didn't have journalists letting the public know maybe this is not the country you thought it was but in Vietnam you did okay so here's our final question and it actually kind of covers other ideas that similar the other people had what do you think these esteemed journalists would think about the retreat of mainstream media from going out and getting the story I'm a working journalist and we do a lot of collection from the web and a lot of what's called UGC collection user-generated content collection in order to report especially in foreign conflict zones and we rely oftentimes on people having an internet connection out there are activists like the white helmets in Syria to understand what's happening and that happens for a lot of different reasons insurance right they can't ensure their guys to go over there without having a pretty deep set of pockets and a lot of other factors which you guys all know because you're all in the industry so I find that a lot of a lot of larger organizations have pulled back from some of these areas that we have our blood and treasure invested in and I'm wondering what the gentleman you know and interviewed and know intimately think about the retreat from going out and getting it these guys made their names on being there and because they were there they were able to do they were able to break ground I am certain that they would be very disappointed at the pullback on on foreign coverage they'd be very frustrated at the same time it really for many men and women covering conflict today it's much more dangerous than it was in Vietnam so I think that that's a big difference a big distinction nevertheless with the cutbacks in foreign coverage which you alluded to with the the danger so it's very difficult to go into some of these some of these areas so you have to rely on people who have an internet connection or who can blend into the local scene it's it's a very very different environment two follow-ups on that one is the the origin of almost all authority in journalism is something like this I'm there you're not let me tell you about it or I interviewed that person you didn't here's what he said or I looked at the documents you were raising your kids that going to work you didn't have time to do that so let me tell you what I found and to the degree that journalists aren't allowed to do that kind of work they lose authority second observation today still many journalists are in danger zones and conflict zones and and deadly situations trying to bring us news of what's going on you you deal with us all the time and I think the press as an institution should be much more vocal and forward about the sacrifice and danger that its members are in to bring us the news to fight the kind of hatred and just attempt to discredit the institution that they that they face now I mean these are people on the front lines but the kind of authority that the reporters in this film have results from the fact that they are able to say with conviction I'm there you are not there let me tell you what I found yeah and and and I think I think another part of that is and this was true in Vietnam as well if you talk to these reporters they will talk about all the support staff they had in the bureaus the Vietnamese staff many of whom or some of whom certainly were left behind and suffered grave consequences as a result but today that that that kind of relationship is even more dramatic I mean you you you sort of described it there are a lot of places that journalists can't get to I mean yes it's it's always better as Jay said to have that first-hand observation but there there are places you can't get through that that journalists have to cover and they can't get to them because sometimes it's too dangerous or sometimes they don't have the resources to do it or there are there are multiple other reasons and really what the global information ecosystem depends on to a tremendous extent our local journalists activists sort of purveyors of information these eyewitnesses if you will and now those you know those eyewitnesses are using this technology to transfer their knowledge to journalists who then report it that's not ideal but it's still it's still in some circumstances the the best option and and the other thing we really have to recognize and throughout the history of conflict and coverage of that conflict by journalists is the role of these local stringers fixers support staff or local journalists working for the local for the local media who sort of inform our understanding of these events and again if you look at our data at the committee to protect journalists these are the people who are on the front lines these are the people who are getting killed these are the people who are going to jail and these are the people we depend on we depended on back then and we still depend on today to keep us informed to that I I only add one or two thoughts one is that I worry given how much we rely on people that we used to think of as being sources as to be themselves reporters I think that that divide had the blur the blurring of that line is a troubling thing and would have been troubling I think to the reporters in the in the film and is troubling to me the other thing that I saw certainly in the last especially in the last part of my sort of active reporting career is sort of this almost fake access to the field that sort of proliferated the the embeds that you could get in places like Iraq that were sort of access but not access sort of go this way go that way access I think that the reporters in the film found ways to break through that they developed networks of their own sources they they they found ways not to be in that echo chamber and in some of the conflict areas that we deal with in the world right now it's that is extraordinarily treacherous because there are no clear lines at all it's just all chaos but at the same time those techniques and those practices and those ideas I think are still probably the way through it all anyway that's shall we leave it there


Hi, guys. So we're going to get started if people still come in. That's fine. But I wanted to start with just a little pop quiz. Just see what you know. Why not, right? OK, so here is your quiz. Candice and Stacey Davis, our sisters, are married. By coincidence, happened to be married to two different bald men with the same last name, Davis, who are not related. See? You are right. We are colleagues. At first, they had on the sign Stacey and Candice Davis. We're like, guys, that does not. We need to separate the, OK, let's do that. We do, however, work together at the same place, Joy and Liberty Counseling Center, and tell you a little bit about ourselves before we get started. So again, I'm Stacey Davis. I have been in practice for about 15, 16 years. I've been in private practice since about 213 as a licensed professional counselor. I really, really love what I do. I'm a joiner. I like to be a part of things, so I'm super happy to be a part of Radiant. Like I said, I'm a joiner, so I'm a part of the welcome team. I lead community groups. I coach community groups, and I also lead youth. So that's just in my spare time. So I also have two daughters, two dogs, two cats, just one husband. We already know he's bald, Davis. And yeah, I am just really a geek about this topic. I really love talking about the brain and how this plays into our life and our mental health, our emotional health, our spiritual health, and really understanding how those things are really not separate. So before I get too excited and start giving away all of our secrets. Yes, and I'm Candice. So my husband, Steph and Davis, he's the campus pastor here at Radiant, and we moved here five years ago to launch the Portage Campus. And I mean, this is our people. The DNA is in our blood, the prayer, the worship culture. So happy to be here. And when we first moved here, I had a three-year-old and a little baby who wasn't even one yet. And we were launching a campus, like I said.  And I'm like, now this is, so I go tell my husband. And he's like, this is bad timing. And I was like, I know, I know. It just doesn't make sense that this is what the Lord wants. But grace of God was on it. That is how I got through all of those years of schooling and became licensed a couple of years ago. As Stacy said, I work at Joy Unlimited with her. So happy to have her as a colleague.  He's over there in the corner. We have two little girls. They are now nine and six. And they are beautiful and we have one dog. So there you go. Love what I do though. It is a passion. It just oozes out of me. And really what happened was I, you know, we were in ministry, Stefan and I were in ministry for about 15 years. And I would meet with couples. I would meet with young people, individuals. And eventually there would always come a point in our discipleship where I would have to refer out. I'm like, you, right, which guys, if you're in leadership or in ministry, it is so important for you to know when to refer. It is so important and so- Not just for those that you pastor and lead, but also for yourself. For yourself. For yourself. No one to get yourself a therapist. And so anyway, so yeah, I just feel like it was time for me to be the one that people referred someone to. And so got my license, love what I do. So I want to just jump in really quick here. So our topic today is mind the gap, but really here's what it is. We have different layers kind of like this per, you know, this image here. We've got the outer layer, right? Of skin, eyes, ears, nose, what you see, right? That's one layer. But then you have another layer, which is like the tissue, the organs, the blood, all of that. And then you go another layer deeper and it's the core, right? It's the skeletal system. It's the bones. Well, we have those layers as well, kind of in the terms of spirituality, physical sense and a mental and emotional sense. But you are all, it's not just you're just the skin, right? You're not just the bones. You're not just the tissue. You're all of it. It's the same for you. You're not just a spiritual being.  And so we want to bring all of those together for you today. In fact, it says in Deuteronomy 6, 4 through 5, here, oh Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. He is one. He is whole.  And we want to take all three of those parts. Like, I don't think that it's out of coincidence that he said, hey, I am the Lord your God. I'm one and you're also to love me in wholeness and all of these parts to be one in all of that.  So we're gonna integrate all of those together. And just to kind of also, before we segue into the next bit, to refer to Pastor Lee, he just talked about the Barnas study and that stress is the number one reason why people get burnt out and don't want to pastor anymore. You guys, that is sad. And as I think therapists today, we are like, we want to help you. Figure out how to manage stress, how to deal with stress because it's affecting your bodies, it's affecting your minds and it is affecting your relationship with Jesus. And obviously how you minister to people. So, and then lastly, John Tyson, he was preaching yesterday at Radiant and he said, he was talking about presence, the presence of God and practices. And we need to put those two together today. We're gonna really focus on that practice piece, right? So, without further ado. We're gonna educate you more about the brain. So just to make sure you're awake, we're just gonna randomly throw these out, just to make sure you guys stay awake and alert throughout our sessions, right? So we're gonna talk about stress, but listen, stress is not always a bad thing. How many people have seen that Ted talk on the master procrastinator? Anybody? No, but yeah, a couple of you. Okay, so this is his stress monster. Ah, because the instant gratification monkey who ran up the tree was just at the wheel, leading us into procrastination, into putting things off and living what he calls in the dark playground. And then the rational decision maker has come and taken over control because stuff needs to get done. Because there's a list a mile long and we have 24 hours because we don't sleep, right? To do it all. And so stress isn't always a bad thing. So stress can be really meaningful and purposeful. It doesn't have to look like this. Often it does, but it doesn't have to look like this. It can also look like this. So this is a zebra. This is from my book, I love books. There's so many people smarter than me. So I read their books. And this is from a book called Why Zebras Don't Get Alsersed, right? So the zebra, he's chilling, doing his thing, grazing on grass, he's perfectly calm and chill. But out of the corner of his eye, he spies a lion.  And so quicker than you can snap your fingers. A physical, physiological reaction occurs that the zebra doesn't think, go, go, zebra brain. Form of, you know, whatever. He just has that reaction that starts in his little zebra brain right in the back. And that goes all the way down his central nervous system that comprises the fight, flight, freeze response, right? Now again, this is not something the zebra thinks. It's not something he intends. It's just something that happens. God designed him with, and that's a good thing.  His heart rate will start to be kind of like mine is right now a little bit. Brain. And that helps get blood to the major muscle group so he can run for his life. Breathing, which is really shallow, becomes even more shallow. All that stuff that he was eating in his stomach, digestion slows down to a halt. And again, all of these things, all of these processes, a cascade of nerve-ending signalings and hormonal secretions run down that central nervous system. Luckily, the zebra gets away. Happy story. For this time. But you notice on the bottom, it says, what are your lions? Because we have this big, beautiful brain that the Lord designed for us, right? We have a bigger brain than the zebra. And this is a brain that the Lord intentionally designed for us. Prior to our modern world, humans lived on this earth and there were a lot of threats. And our brain needed to remember what those threats are so that we could stay alive, right? But now in this modern world, all I need is an Instagram post. I don't need a lion chasing me to have that same physiological response happen in my body. And here's the cool thing about this brain. On average, it weighs only about three pounds. And it contains a hundred billion nerve cells called neurons. Is that crazy? That is faster than any computer that has ever been invented. In your brain, here's the cool thing. It's not hardwired. It can create or reduce anxiety, distress, depression, according to what you do and how you think. We're gonna talk a lot about what you do and how you think as we go forward. I love Dr. Caroline Leaf, if any of you have heard of her. She has some great books out. But she said, she quoted Romans 12 too, do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by what? Amen, sisters and brothers. Okay, she says that science in the last 20 years, let's say maybe 2025, is finally catching up with the word of God. Because neuroscience, the field of neuroscience has just blown up and we know more about the brain now than any other time before. And again, we know that it is not hardwired. And I'm gonna preach just one second to get a little ahead. You, I don't know what your backgrounds are. There's a lot of you in this room. You may have had amazing families. You may have come from a background of trauma. You may have come from whatever, lots of different experiences, lots of different people in this room.   That's good. So this is a picture of a car, all right? This is an aerial view of a car. This is a four wheels. Very high tech lead drawn by me in the status. Very high tech. That's about as far as I go there. Okay, so I teach this a lot to my clients because it helps us learn how to change things about our emotions or our bodies, what's going on or our thoughts. Okay, so I'm gonna step up here. Okay, a lot of times when people come in to see us, they wanna change their emotions. I'm depressed, I'm lonely, I'm sad, I'm anxious. Usually this is the one they wanna change. They also complain about, they can't sleep, they maybe have headaches a lot, they have stomach aches, stomach aches, bowel issues, all of that. They've got a medical list. Maybe they're on a lot of medications actually for a lot of that. And they're like, man, this is very problematic. But here's the thing. This car is a front wheel drive car. You car people out here, I don't profess to know much here, okay? But the front wheel drive car, right? This is the front. The power is in the front wheels, right? I turn the wheel and what happens? These tires are what moves. And then these follow, right? You see a lot of you guys are nodding. I can tell you already know where I'm going with this. So if you want to change your emotions and your physiology, you first need to focus on behaviors and thoughts. Not just first need to, you can only change your behaviors and thoughts.  You do not have power to change your emotions and your physiology. You can't walk in here and go, I'm just not gonna have a headache. You can't walk in here and just go, I'm just not gonna be depressed anymore. Without first changing your thoughts and your behaviors. Those are first. So, and I just kind of want to even say really quickly here. Proverbs 12, if you don't believe, again, that's a whole like science is catching up with the Bible. This is in the Bible. So let me just tell you. Proverbs 12 too, it says kind words, which are just like your thoughts too. Words are in your, your thoughts are words, right? They're in the English, you think in English, right? Or whatever native language you have, they're the same. Words, whether they're spoken out loud or in your mind are the same, okay? So kind words are like honey, sweet to the soul and healthy for the body, okay? Proverbs 15, one, a gentle answer turns away wrath, but hard words stir up anger.  Proverbs 11, 17, this is the last one on trying to prove my point here. Like I think you guys all agree already, but Proverbs 11, 17 says your own soul is nourished when you are kind. That's a behavior, all right? But you destroy yourself when you're cruel, right? When your behaviors are cruel or kind, it dictates how it's going to affect yourself, your body even, right? So now, as I said, a lot of people come in and they wanna change their emotions, but they have to focus on thoughts, okay? And I already said, your thoughts are much, they're words, they're the same thing, right? Your words and thoughts are linked. It's like an inner dialogue and a self-talk. You guys, that's a buzzword, right? You guys hear a dialogue, self-talk. Okay, Luke 645 says, for his mouth speaks from that which his heart fills. So whatever's in your heart about another person, about God, or about yourself, you will speak or you will think. That's just the word of God, that's not me saying that. That's the word of God saying that. So then Proverbs 18, 20 says words satisfy the soul as food satisfies the stomach. The right words on a person's lips bring satisfaction. So we need to be aware of our thoughts and our self-talk, those inner dialogues that we have. Ever wonder how God can feel so fond of us and love us so well? You ever wonder how he can feel those feelings towards us? Consider his thoughts toward us, okay? In Psalm 139, 17 through 18, it says, how precious to me are your thoughts, oh God. How vast is the sum of them? If I would count them, they are more than the sand. Here is the big kicker. Every single one of those thoughts are good. How do I know that? Because God is good, he is only good, and his thoughts about you are only good, which would produce feelings of good feelings, right? Does that make sense? If you're struggling with people in your life or yourself in securities, look at the thoughts that you have about yourself. Look at those. Follow God in this, and he's got so many thoughts about you, and they're all good. That's why he loves you so much. So, and then one of my favorite verses, Philippians 4, it says, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. This is your filter, okay? If your thought about yourself or about God is not true or pure, if your thoughts about other people are not excellent or praiseworthy or admirable, I mean, Philippians kind of says, you got no business thinking those thoughts. And he tells you, and this is Paul, and I love this, because we all know, I mean, I think we all know, I'm going to assume we all know about Paul's journey and struggle and how much literally he's suffered. And he's telling you, this is what you think. Here is the recipe. Yes. And listen, okay, you can choose your thoughts. Some of you guys are like, meh, I don't know if I can. Listen, you may not, you may have an intrusive thought, but you get to decide how long you think about that thought, what you think about that thought. If you change that thought, you get to decide how long it sits in your head right there. You get to decide that. You actually can choose that. So one of the things that we like to tell people to do is put your thoughts on trial, which again is biblical. So second Corinthians 10-5, we demolish arguments in every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. I love that word captive. It has that like an arrest, right? Like now it's been arrested, and now it's gotta be proven guilty or innocent, right? I have to take it and make it obedient to Christ. So one thing that you can do is put your thoughts on trial. Sometimes you're not sure if some of your thoughts are valid or not. You need to ask some of these questions, right? What evidence do I have that this thought is true or false, right? What evidence do I have, and you can even think to your, I ask my clients this all the time. You know, when they're having these thoughts maybe about themselves or someone else to say, what would your friends say to you in this situation? They'd be like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, and I can totally understand. I'm like, why are you not saying that same thing to yourself? Even in your mind, right? So our thoughts are powerful. You must consider them, not just your words, but your thoughts and the self-talk that you have about yourself, and you can change them. Let's move on to emotions and see how that impacts your emotions. So this is a huge thing, guys. This is, we're gonna sit on this just for a second, okay? This is like a, I use this a lot with my clients. I give them a lot of times this like, it looks just like this, I hand it to them, and I have them look at it and talk about what feeling, because sometimes you guys come, I'm angry or I'm upset, and that's such a, do you know there's like over 3,000 words in our English language that describe emotion, and we use about like 10 of them? And sometimes, sometimes you're like, no, I am feeling humiliated. I'm feeling hopeless. I'm feeling devastated. You're like, those are the words mean something, and sometimes you really need to get to the root of what the emotion is. Also on here, depression and anxiety are on here. They're emotions, you guys. We happen to have a diagnosis, right? I mean, I only use, we use this thing because we kind of have to for insurance purposes, but here's the reality. There's an anger disorder. There's a depressed disorder. There's an anxiety disorder. These things though are only when you got, the emotions are out of control, right?  That's what's happening. It doesn't mean that it has to be lifelong and forever. Or it doesn't have to be an identity. That'll preach. Honestly, it's like, I mean, so I've heard that a depression and anger are like the common cold of mental illness. So when you get a cold and you see it coming on, what should you do? Which slow down, maybe take a nap, take some vitamin C, maybe cancel a meeting. Like slow down, right? What happens if you don't listen to that? That I got a cold coming on and you just start to bear through it. You might get sicker.  Now you're gonna have to go to the doctor and get antibiotics. And if you really ignore it even more, you could end up in the hospital. You can also pass it to other people. For sure. Now we see people a lot of the time, usually where it's at that level where they've ignored it, they've ignored all their emotions, right? They don't know how to deal with their emotions. And now they're spinning out of control and they're coming to us. And so that's okay. I think that's, you need to know when to go find some help, right? Let me give you some help as to what we teach our clients on how to deal with your emotions, how to handle your emotions. Now this is for you, but you first and then others, right? So you can't transfer what you don't already have. Please practice what you preach. So okay. So let me just say really quick though that these emotions aren't bad. God created you with them. I don't know that if you really believe that though. And that's why I know that because I have so many clients that are Christians and they come in and they deny their emotions. They deny and invalidate their anxiety and their depression. Why? Because they read verses like, do not be anxious. So I can't be. Do not fear. So I can't fear. And they ignore, deny, invalidate the very thing that is real in their heart. Now here's the thing I just wanna say. So Philippians 4-6 says, the Lord is at hand. Let's go back to that verse. The Lord is at hand. Do not be anxious about anything. That's what he said. He said, hey, I'm here. Hey, I'm here. Don't be anxious. Right? He's not saying don't be anxious and you're sinning. That's different. That's like when my kids are around, I'm like, hey, baby, don't be afraid. I'm right here. It's not saying you can't be afraid. And then if you are afraid, you're doing something wrong. That's not what that's saying. It's the same thing. Oh guys, let's talk about depression for a second. If you don't think that is all over the place in Psalms, then you don't know David's life. Psalm 13, Amoritas, not the long one, but I love it. This is learn from David. How long, oh Lord, will you forget me forever? How long will you hide your face from me? How long must I take counsel in my soul and have sorrow in my heart all the day? I long, how long shall my enemy be exalted over me? Consider and answer me.  Lest my enemy say I have prevailed over him. Lest my foes rejoice because I am shaken.   That is how my clients a lot of times feel when they are so deep in depression, they can't get out of bed. They can't function. That's depression. That's David's expressing it right here. And then he says, but, but, I have trusted in your steadfast love. My heart shall rejoice in your salvation. He's choosing his thoughts. Do you hear it? Okay, I will sing to the Lord. He's choosing a behavior. Do you hear it? Because he has dealt bound to flee with me. So you can acknowledge your thoughts. Let's just go into the how-tos. All right, let's go for it, next one. All right, so, how do we deal with our emotions? How do we deal with them? All right, so emotions are a lot like toddlers, okay? You guys seen this movie? So good.   It helps people to remove themselves from their emotions sometimes. That they're not their emotion, right? So you kind of picture, all right, anger, you know. All right, so you name the emotion. Hi, nice to meet you. Okay, your anger, nice to meet you. That's the first one, write this down if you're taking notes. Step one, name the emotion. This is where a feelings wheel or that little picture that I showed you on the last slide is really good. You look at the emotion. Step one, name the emotion. Step two, what is the emotion trying to say to you?  What happens? They get louder. They get louder.  Your emotions are the same way.  They're actually there to help you. They're good, let's remember that. God created you with them. Just learn to work with them. Learn to get comfortable with them. They're not positive or negative, good or bad. They're either comfortable or uncomfortable. Which ones are you uncomfortable with? The more you can get comfortable with them, the more they can help you. So that's number two. What is the emotion trying to say? Anger would probably say something like, you know, that person disrespected you. Okay, yep, all right. Number three, what does the emotion need? This is the next step. What does the emotion need? Maybe the emotion would like to say, well, you need to communicate this injustice and let them know like they've crossed a line, right? Number four, how will you get the need met? What are you gonna do? Well, you gotta set up a meeting with this person. You gotta talk to them, right? Number five, release the emotion. This can be in a way of like running it out, going to the gym, journaling, crying, laughing, whatever you need to do, right? So that's a little bit of how you can process emotions, restructuring, even how you frame the emotion. It can help you.  And you have that conversation. What do you wanna say? What do you need? They get it, you do it, we're all good. Go back to normal, right? Same thing with your emotions, same thing, so. So if you registered for this conference, you will get an email with all of these slides. So let's talk about your body because we live in this meat suit, right? Like we have to deal with it. Yes, meat suit, trademarked by me. Healthy body, healthy mind, happy human because why do I need to worry about my physical health? It is just a meat suit, it's not my permanent home. But do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own. For you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body. And guess what? When you do that, He will give certain gifts to you. When you are physically active, when you move your body in the way that the Lord intended you to move, then you have better sleep because you have certain hormones and chemicals that are released into your body when your heart rate gets really high, not when you're stressed. Let's make this clear. When you're exercising, that help you get better sleep. It helps you have better memory and better thinking. You can concentrate more clearly when you have your body moving, when you are active. It increases your self-esteem too. Like you feel better about yourself and you're like, yeah, I went to the gym today. Oh yeah, I took my dogs for a walk, right? Energy, do you know the more energy you expend, the more energy you have? Isn't that like such a weird thing? But that's how the Lord designed our brains, catch. Resilience, you also have more resilience when you are more physical and more active. You just have the ability to bounce back from stressors. And did you know that exercise is the number one way to complete a stress cycle? So you have a stressor, right? You have a thought and you need to do something with it because that thought has an impact on your physiology. That energy needs somewhere to go. So just 15 minutes of exercise. Do you know what else can help close that stress cycle? 20 second hug, six second kiss, 20 second hug, yes. So we have to keep in mind that we have to take care of what the Lord gave us because what are we called to do? We need the energy for that. What if we're called to go live somewhere where you have to walk a lot of steps? You need the energy for that. You have to take care of what the Lord gave you. And then in turn, that will help you take care of your thought life and of just your overall health. So let's look at your body a little more. So this is what happens when we get into that fight, fight, fight, freeze, you know, that zebra and the lion comes at you. You just got an email because someone didn't like your preaching and they thought you're off in the theology. Someone, some parents mad because of what you did in a youth group night.   You got a bad doctor's report. All of a sudden you can experience these physical things, right, like difficulty breathing, heart pounding, butterflies, dizziness, tunnel vision, dry mouth. All of these things start happening to your physical body. Okay, so I'm gonna tell you a little story. So I didn't anticipate you to be here, but this is your story. I did get approval from him, but, so one day, so we're on vacation and he is just chewing gum and his crown falls out. This is, we have a great dentist by the way and this was done by another dentist back home or in Colorado and anyway, he, this is like his fifth crown fell out. And he's like, oh no, I don't wanna call him. Like I don't wanna tell him another crown fell out. Well he goes to the dentist.  Teachers and pastors, these are stress. They grind their teeth at night. You can get a night guard or you can go to therapy and actually deal with the issues of why you're so anxious and grinding your teeth at night, right? Which by the way, he does have, he has a therapist. We're all obviously, I'm a therapist, we're pro-therapy. So, and then he goes to his chiropractor, it's this same week, okay? Goes to the chiropractor and he's like trying to get adjusted and you know whatever and the chiropractor's like, dude, what do you guys, and he, the chiropractor sees a lot of the pastors are radiant and our dentist sees a lot of pastors are radiant so he's like, they're both like, they know. What is, they're like, the chiropractor goes, what is happening over a radiant? Like all the pastors are like, I can't adjust them. Now here's the thing, radiant is not like some workhorse. Like they're not, they're not slaving us away. No, this is everybody. I guarantee if I got all the pastors to go to the dentist and all the pastors from all over the earth, this would be a problem. Why? It's the same study that said, stress is the number one reason why I want to quit. Right? And so this is just trying to say, hey guys, like your body is communicating to you.  Pay attention, pay attention. Lot of the gut stuff you've got going on, the headaches, the sleepless nights, pay attention to that. Sorry, let's look at this a little different way. This is the more scientific way. We talk about the parasympathetic nervous system and the sympathetic nervous system. The sympathetic nervous system is that fight-flight-or-freeze. And the parasympathetic nervous system is the rest in recovery. So did you know that when you get into that fight-flight-or-freeze, neurotransmitters, they increase and release cortisol, which is an inflammatory adrenaline, and lots of other stuff that I'm not smart enough to know about. But I know that if they are in your system for a prolonged period of time, they are connected to things like IBS. They are connected to things like autoimmune disorders. You will slowly erode your body over time if you allow yourself to live under prolonged stress. It impacts just about every system in your body, as you can see, right? So that's why God's saying, don't be anxious. Don't be so angry. Don't let these things fester, right? Because you think you're burnt out just from spiritual stuff and work. No, you're not. You just can't handle anxiety and stuff because you haven't been taught how to do it yet, right? You can go move to some other job. You're still gonna have the same issues. Because you're still gonna have this thing called the amygdala that sits in the core of your limbic system, which is the alarm that goes off when there's anything connected to something that is a remembered trauma, pain. And we talk about trauma in our office. We talk about big T trauma and little T trauma, which is just another word for anything painful that kind of gets stuck, right? And so maybe... By the way, you guys all have it. Just so you know, we all do. We all do. This is life. Everyone has it. It's a result of life living in a dying and decaying world and dying and decaying bodies that we all will have painful things that happen to us that get stuck, right? And there's ways to deal with that, obviously, therapy, right? The Lord. Friends. Pastors. Relationships, right? There's so many ways to deal with that. But the reality is we have to recognize that it's just the tip of the iceberg. Like everybody has stuff going on underneath. Yeah, I'll do.  So one day I'm home. I'm in my nice, comfortable home. I told you I had two dogs, so they bark if anyone comes near my door. I'm home alone, having lunch, watching one of my favorite Hulu shows, Handmaid's Tale. There's a particular high-intent scene, right? And I have this really cool Apple Watch, and it's never done this before, since, but it went off on me. It was like, I was like, what? Your heart rate is 140 beats per minute. I'm just sitting here in my nice, comfortable home in my little town with my dogs and myself, and I'm safe. There is nothing wrong with me. But my brain, it doesn't discern between real or perceived danger. It's just thoughts. Thoughts are real no matter what. So we have to recognize that that is something that's going on in our body. So it's a total car. We can't just pay attention to part of it. We have to know what runs the car, what steers the car, but we are a total human being, which is why we talked about, we named this Mind the Gap, because we live on this earth and we don't pay attention to that gap.  Then I go home, and I eat chips, and I sit on the couch, and, you know, I'm praying, and I'm doing all this, but I'm not paying attention to my body. Or maybe I'm doing it the other way. Keep going, yep. Maybe I'm going to the gym five days a week, and I go to church on Sunday. It's good, it's all, yeah. But I'm at the gym five days a week, and that's my priority. I eat, live, and drink protein all day long. So I have to really be aware of how all of these things are interconnected, and then I have to be aware too that I have power. I have power in the Lord, but I have power in how I manage my life, my thoughts, my relationship with the Lord. So I'm going to take just one minute, just one minute really quick.  I'm going to all take your hands, put it on your chest, and breathe. Yes, you all breathe. Your brainstem tells you to. You don't think about it, it just happens. And we as humans are shallow breathers. We breathe from here. I want you to take your other hand, keep this hand here. I want you to take your other hand and put it on your stomach. I want to teach you how to do a belly breath or diaphragmatic breath. Some of you might know this, but I'm going to tell you the why. Guys, by the way, this is one of the easiest things that we can do, but hardly anyone ever does it. It's like, when you pastors teach people how to pray. It's the easiest thing we can do, but people don't do it. It's like, just do it, just pray and breathe. Can we do that? Let's just do it.  Don't do that yet. Because this is the really, really important part is your exhale.  And the really cool thing that happens is kind of down here, there's a vagus nerve that runs up and down that central nervous system. And when you exhale that breath and when you compress that stomach, you have the opportunity to trigger that vagus nerve that tells that parasympathetic nervous system that the Lord gave us to chill, to calm. So I want you to do that really quick. Just take a really nice deep breath in through your nose and push it out. Feel that stomach compress. Feel the power of the breath that the Lord has given to us. So, wow, we gotta wrap up really quickly. So I'm gonna go through this really quickly. You are what you eat, right? So, did you know that after you have a stressful moment, how many people crave carbs and sugar? Which is horrible for you, right? Not, I mean, too much of it. That your diet can actually make you feel worse. You crave the carbs and sugar because your body thinks that you ran for your life, like the zebra, it thinks that you expended the energy and so it needs a quick refuel. That's why you crave those things. So what you eat can either make you feel nervous or it can make you feel calm. So your appetite is directly also, that's physiology, is linked to your emotions. Again, if your appetite is all a whack, I had a whack, consider that. What are you feeling? A lot of times I ask the clients, just don't log your food intake, log your emotions before and after you eat. Consider that. And God said, behold, I've given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of this earth and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. So God perfectly prepared for us, right? And so the connection between your diet and emotions stems from that close relationship between your brain and the stomach and the GI gastrointestinal tract. So it's actually called your second brain, which is so cool to me. The GI tract is home to like a ton, think of like billions of bacteria that influence the production of neurotransmitters that are found up here in your brain. And the neurotransmitter, that's a chemical messenger that allows nerve cells to communicate to one another. Neurotransmitters like, well, let's look at some of them, serotonin. It helps us sleep. Do you know those are found in food that the Lord put here for us? I don't see lays potato chips on this list. So unfortunate. But look at this.  And so again, remember that zebra who's running for his life, his stomach isn't digesting because he's in a stress response system.  So we have to pay attention to the whole body. We have to pay attention to all of it. And again, this is emailed to you. Yeah, I just, I think that, you know, as we're kind of, you know, wrapping this up and talking about all of this, so often I think we hit a spot in our spiritual life where we get frustrated. We feel like God isn't answering our prayers or isn't with us. We don't feel them or, you know, we just hit a rock, you know, or a wall or we've plateaued and it's not, it's not always a spiritual issue or answer. It's sometimes it's because of something we need to change, a behavior or thoughts. We need to be aware of how we're treating our bodies. We need to be aware of how we're processing emotions, right? And you're wondering all the while, like why, you know, we work with clients all the time who, why, I mean, I'm telling you, it is huge, I don't know, it's a privilege and a success when I see people come into our office, work on their trauma, work on their anxiety, work on whatever's going on that presents.  They have a better relationship with God when they leave my office and not tooting my own horn. I'm saying it just connects. It connects. And so here's the thing, guys, that just because you have a holy calling on your life does not mean that you have a holy anointing against all the stuff we talked about today. Amen, amen. Yes, amen. It's true. So I love this. This is a great quote. Holiness is a time management issue, right? Or a life management issue. We would tweak that a little, right? Because it's all about how you take care of the whole picture. Your whole self. That we really, oh my gosh, where's my little quote? I have a quote in here. That burnout, based on burnout literature, we know that burnout is higher in the start of our careers because we need good mentoring, we need good training, we need good support so we can manage the distress. There is a moral dilemma that we all face. And I think Pastor Lee spoke about it this morning like we're trying to catch everyone, right? And we can't. You can't. You have to first interact with the work, with competence and confidence. And how do you get this? You get this through discipleship.  You just define my job description. That is what a therapist is. I don't know. I mean, the thing is is like, I love it when people say, oh yeah, I'm totally pro-therapy and pastors are like, yeah, yeah, go to therapist. You do it, but they don't go themselves. You can't give what you don't have, right? Do you have a dentist that takes care of your teeth? Do you have one? Raise your hand if you have a dentist. Raise your hand if you have a doctor that you already have. Yep. I'm not gonna ask you to raise your hand now, but if I were to have you say, go, do you have a therapist? Why don't you have someone who's taking care of that part of your life? To check in, even if it is once a year, you check in. What if you have a toothache? You're more likely to call the dentist if you already have one connected, right? You're more likely to call the doctor if you've got some ongoing issue physically. You're more likely to go to the doctor if you already have one. You're more likely to go see a therapist in a moment of crisis if you have one. Create that relationship. Find somebody you really like who's on the same page. Find someone.  You know, you're like, I feel like I'm off lately. I don't know what's wrong, you know? Go talk to someone. Whatever you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. Do you notice that we had like a section on mental health and like physical health? We didn't really talk about spiritual health. It wasn't a separate section for that because it's interwoven in everything. It has to be. And you already probably do it well. This is what the conference is all about. It's focusing on your spirituality. So I'm like, you probably have that figured out. It's to some degree, right? But it's just other areas that we want to bring some mindfulness to and say, hey, let's be, God is one. We need to love him in wholeness, in oneness of ourselves. Make sense? So that is our talk, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for your speech, Bill.


Full-stack bootcamps. Are you recording? Is this mic working? I don't like it. So I'm a self-taught JavaScript developer. I learned JavaScript in a bootcamp. Should you learn JavaScript? Absolutely. Here I'll send you a good Udemy tutorial. Oh, there's a new library out. What's the name? I switch companies around every six to nine weeks, but this time I'll stay longer. I can feel it. I put in a few bucks only I can fix. Yeah, we use React. It's just the best. Rust. Mmm, I don't know. A lot of people use React. A lot of people use jQuery. A lot of people use jjQuery. It won't be too bad. It won't be too slow. Hacky. I mean, that's how programming is supposed to be. And we're just using a library for this and this and this. Oh really? Is there a Udemy tutorial for this? Can you give me the name? I've been working with it for 10 days now.  Yeah, I'm a senior full-stack engineer. Oh, what is this? Oh, this, this is just a variable. Yeah, we're using graphics libraries for this. jQuery. Have you heard of it? I guess we could rewrite it, but that'd be a lot of work. I mean, that's what libraries are made for. I guess. Yeah, I love it. It's just the best.


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and the steering wheel is like it sounds, I'm just moving my hands in such a way that I'm gonna basically cause him to move his feet. It's not a straight snap, this kind of snap, what it ends up doing, it forces him to move his feet in a circular motion and it makes it harder for him to tap me if I'm trying to snap as opposed to just a straight snap. Does that make sense? It's harder for him to reattach me. So like I said, I'll touch the mat, I'll move in. I'm trying to get inside tight, you can also do it from an over tight. Each of your head or whatever from a collar, that's fine too, you can do it from an over tight. But I try to get inside. And again, like I said, the hand that I'm gonna snap with, I'm gonna be on his wrist, I'm gonna be walking at his elbow, or you can post on his shoulder too. Does that make sense? All of your motion is going in. Cause you wanna get him to come back into you. If he doesn't, you're just gonna post, shoot on him. Does that make sense? So I touch the mat, I move in, inside, and I'm going elbow, block, at the wrist, or you can come walk too. As long as you can create pressure in. I keep my lead leg forward the whole time. I just pressure in, I'm not gonna walk into him. Inside, I like to be at the elbow. If you like to be at the shoulder, that's fine.  Inside tie is gonna come down to the elbow. If you're over tie, I'm just pulling. All I'm looking to do is move my feet and look to put his hands on that. Make him travel in a circle. Inside, block. I feel the pressure back, I'm gonna move my feet. See how he travels? It's not a straight snap. Create yourself more options with him being able to travel, because again it's harder for him to be attacked. Inside, block, wherever. Just create pressure in, feel the pressure back over your feet. Notice how I go down with that. I don't try to reach a hole. Everything comes down. Basically replace the foot that you have with your trail leg. He should be moving almost where your trail leg is.  Just to start out. Inside, block, pressure. All I want you to do is feel the motion of moving your feet, move your hand. Just like that. Then the other guy. Inside, pressure. Make him travel. Got it? That's it.


I would like to present part of my PhD thesis today. And my question is, does being wealthy mean you're healthy? And I will focus now on the post-medieval period. That means 17, still 19, till 20th century in some cases. So first of all, my PhD thesis is about Cript Mammus in Germania. And I would like to give you a short introduction into the context. These cripts are church vaults that means that are structures that are either in the church, next to the church, and they can be above ground or also subterranean barrier places for the nobility. So the clergy and the bourgeoisie. And most of them date between the 16th and 19th century. And we're also created in this timeframe. Usually the cripts have a skillfully devised ventilation system. And this is important because otherwise it starts to smell in the church and bodies are decomposing. Of course, those places are a matter of social distinction. Only the rich people who can afford it will be buried there. And usually I'm researching cripts from rural areas. That means we have the land owners there. When it comes to the research history, the first studies that have been conducted started in the 18th and 19th century. But at this time, the bodies were usually mummified because of this ventilation system were seen as curiosities. For example, the German novelist Theodor Fontana described some of these cripts in his book, Ramblings through Brandenburg. Then with the discovery of several Egyptian and South American mummies, they started to compare those kind of mummies and describe the difference between artificial and natural mummification. In the 20th century, the first attempts were done to compare different sites to collect the evidence. But it was only in the 21st century that we have detailed interdisciplinary studies on those cripts. And this means not only history, archaeology, but also textile analysis, bioarchaeological analysis, and so on. So the aim of my study is the first I have to establish the identity of these mummies. That means I have to give them back their names. I have to try to identify the bodies by comparing historical, archaeological, sometimes genetic, and anthropological records. In the second step, I can determine single pathologic conditions of the individuals and then collect data on the general health status of the population. And I will focus now on body health and dental health because those are the things that I can do. I can't do everything because it's a mummy and usually it has closest on it. So I don't see a lot of bone parameters that we usually use in physical anthropology. The third aim would be to evaluate the influence of social status and health and diet by comparing those cripts to other rural church yards. So this is my material. I will focus on six sites in my talk. All are coming from Germany, maybe from the eastern part, and two from Bavaria. And those churches are all Protestant churches. So when you have a look at the sample, you will see I'm not talking about many individuals because usually those cripts have limited space. That means usually you have an average about 10 coffins, sometimes a bit more, but we don't have so many material as in the rural church yards, of course. And as you can see, the cripts are still preserved today. I'm just, we'll talk about mummified individuals now, but we have also usually some additional scattered remains that are usually the previous occupants of this cript, or maybe some bones who just came into the cript from the cemetery who was around the church. So cript investigations are quite complex and you need to have a lot of disciplines who contribute to it. So first of all, you have the historical records. This is nice for the post-medieval period. And in most of the cases, it's written on the coffin who's inside. That's very practical, of course, but you have to read the inscription. Sometimes you have name plates. If this is not the case, you can always have a look at the church register. And usually, especially for these people who are buried in crips, they say where were they buried and for which reason? And because it's noble people, usually you will find them. Sometimes for this noble families, you have also familical chronicles. So you can check there more about their identity. So you will find out their name, the ancestry, their occupation, date of birth, date of death, and so on. Then it comes to the ecological part. So we were investigating the coffins. We were investigating the padding of the coffins through the filling. Usually it's botanical remains. And in a lot of cases, we have also brave quotes. It's usually razors, combs, whatever, because it's Protestant, we don't have any religious medals or something like this. It is possible for us to date this coffins type of chronologically because we have a very good framework for that in Germany nowadays. So as I said, we need a lot of disciplines. Those are the ones that we are trying to do. So we need some partners to do that. And to get more information on the bioarchology, we also need imaging methods. So I was investigating around 67 mummies. I did sex and age determination. In most cases, sex determination is easier and also possible for non-adults because you have the genitalia. So it's quite obvious in most of the cases. We reconstructed body height. We did some paleopostological observations and we had a look on the preservation of the mummies and on mummification. I will say now all of them are natural mummies. What I mean with postmortem manipulation is that usually the scripts have been looted in the past. Usually after World War II, sometimes even in the 80s, 90s, so you will find a lot of things in the coffins that do not belong there originally. And then, of course, you have the scale of our mind where we determined a minimum number of individuals and the body height. So first question, are those people equal and as if I compare different signs? And when you have this pattern, you will see not at all. They're completely different. And it depends on where you go. Here, for example, you have a family of mayors. In this case here, you have a lot of priests and that's why you have a lot of male individuals, of course. In other cases, this was surprising for us. You have a lot of infants and not so many adult individuals. We are lacking them in the other crypts, actually, because the infants were not buried in the crypt. It's a very special barrier place. The infants of these families were buried under the church here. So obviously in other families, you must have reached a certain age or status to be buried in a crypt like that. Well, the two last ones, here we have a predominance of females. And I think this is because they had a lot of widowed women in their families and a lot of unmarried women who stayed actually at that place of births. Which was also surprising for us when we had a look at the historical sources. They were not only family members buried in a crypt, but also a lot of people who visited the family who were maybe distant related, but who died there by occasion and then were buried in the crypt. If you have a look at the age distribution, you will see we have 28% of subadults, so not so many. And what we can also see that it's quite a natural curve, actually. We have these cases in infants too and juvenile enviroments. The question now, are those people taller than the average farmer who was buried on the church yard? So we compare those sides and our average body height is 172 for the males and 159 for the females from different sides. So now we set it into a context. And actually for me, the difference is not very high to the rural and urban church yards from the same periods. We have another problem that are different body height estimation methods. Not all of these studies were conducted the same way, so it's very difficult to compare those data. But for me, I think the difference is not so striking as I would have expected. When we have a look at dental health, we determine carious intensity and frequency. And with carious intensity, I mean the percentage of teeth who was affected from the total number of teeth. So here. And those numbers are also not very striking as you can see here. The carousal frequency means a number of individuals from the whole observable sample who had caries. On other, those numbers are quite in the context of numbers that we know from rural environments that is usually between 70 and 80% of individuals that had caries. So I think our numbers are fine, especially when you see how many individuals we could actually investigate for carious. We have the problem that usually if you have soft tissue around, it's not easy to see the teeth and if the mouse is closed, of course, it's not possible. So you have to do either computer tomography or x-rays to have a look at teeth. And not all of the mummies have still the heads because usually the heads were stolen in the past. However, it's possible to determine some single pathological conditions that we might lose and skeletal remains. For example, that one, it's a mature male. He had renal stones and gallbladder in the kidneys and the bladder. And those are crystalline deposits. And in this case, I think it's also related to obesity because you can see the strange body posture of this individual. It barely fit into the CT. So this indicates a quite rich diet, actually. Another case that was really interesting for me was this girl where we could do x-ray analysis. She died at the age of 10 months. You also know her identity. And she had a healed fracture of the left radius and not only the radius, but also possibly a fracture of the left fibula. Which is interesting. I was thinking first, maybe child abuse or something like this, but the story around her that she was first buried on a cemetery, actually, near the church. And when her mother died, even worse to her brother later, her father decided to exhume her and to place her in the crypt. So I would say that shows maybe that there's a great affection in this family. So maybe just fallen from somewhere. So I showed you the results that we have so far and it's still an ongoing study, but we are also encountering a lot of problems. When we do x-ray and we try to do it systematically right now, we have always an overlap of other radion structures of the fabrics and of soft tissue. So if I want to get to the bones, I can't. And in this case, for example, you can see the pelvic area and those things are all like bricks and stones that someone have thrown into the coffin. And what I will not do is empty the coffin just to see the mummy properly. Another problem is I cannot evaluate the classical, occupational or stress markers like fever or vitalia or peristates or something. Those are non-observable to me. And there's no standardized protocol for mummy investigations and we have to always do it in place. It's not any museum. It's not an ecological storage unit. So we have to do it in place and leave everything there. So coming back to my aims, the first one I think is quite doable. We can identify them even though if they're non-inscriptions, we can determine some pathological conditions and we can collect data on the health status but on a very low level. But the third time, I think we need more data and we will do stable isotopes in the future. Right now we cannot say if there's really a difference between those people buried in the crypt or the farmers on the church. I think we will do this with stable isotopes but right now the data does not tell us. So to conclude, we have a unique composition of individuals and every crypt. Of course it's a place that was just for high status individuals, nobles and bourgeois people. And surprisingly, we have family and non-family members and so far no major physical differences between the crypt and the church population. And we need more data and I would like to encourage everyone to share the data to publish so that we can compare throughout Europe. So thank you for your attention and I would like to thank all the people who helped with the research and the people who were in the crypt with me and did the investigations.


Hi everyone, Joe for Jaspy's casebreaks.com coming at you with 2019 Panini playbook football four box Random divisions number four All-card ship everyone gets a ram division in the NFL from 2019 So it should be pretty good stuff big things these folks who are getting into it. There are the divisions right there Let's roll it. Let's randomize it four to two six times for each one. Yeah, just in time Patrick six times one two three four five and six We got Chris down to Patrick 402 six times for the divisions one two three four five and Sixth and final time after six we got the AFC West Where my raiders live down to the NFC East All right, Chris with the AFC West Cory with the AFC East Patrick with the AFC North Rick with the NFC South and the AFC South John with the NFC North Jarrell with the NFC West and Patrick with the NFC East. Let's order alphabetize these by division Right there. Feel free to trade if you would like Give it a few moments. Yeah, so the previous break And put those little squigglies right there so you know, they're all from the same cakes 2019 Right there All right trade window going once trade window going twice TWC trade window close. Let's print. Let's rip. Let's actually grab a blank card right here So we can slow play some of the hits Points down there Slide this out right here Winner take all on the points. If there's more we'll gather them together and a name on top of on a different randomizer We'll get it. So we got Rob Gronkowski leading us off. That's nice relic there for color patch out of 99 That will be for the AFC East It's gonna be for Cory. You got Christian Kirk It's a catch nice 162 out of 299 running those hot routes It'll be for the NFC West that'll be for Jarell running them hot routes and the book is Gonna be Bryce Love 37 out of 49 for the Washington football team big three color patch on book autograph NFC East that'll be for Patrick. All right next box. That's an autograph not points. Okay, excellent All right, we got JJ or Thiegel Whiteside 25 out of 25 mammoth materials NFC East another one for Patrick. There's Robert Woods. He'll have a new quarterback throwing to him When he runs those hot routes to 299 Matthew Stafford with the Rams now NFC West Jarell It's the breaking news here on Saturday the 30th Although I think the trade won't be official Until like the new league calendar starts in March or something like that, but we got greedy Williams 71 out of 75 AFC North Patrick with that one the book is gonna be a seahawk DK Metcalf nice 23 out of 175 big Jersey DKM autograph It's pretty good There you go NFC West Jarell Taylor like that DK Metcalf. We got Hunter Renfro. That's a catch 299 AFC West Chris we got Bryce Love Piece of his Jersey going to Patrick in the NFC East. We've got Jason Kelsey Travis's brother 151 out of 249 Jersey and autograph X's and O's signature NFC East Patrick There you go. And the book is Gonna be another one for the NFC East this Tony Pollard 71 out of 225 Jersey and autograph there you go Patrick NFC East again All right, and the fourth and final box in random division number four 2019 Finini playbook football Last year's edition. All right DJ Moore Hot routes to 299 NFC South that'll be Rick We got John Ross the third. That's a catch run some hot routes here to 222 out of 299 Piece of his Jersey going to Patrick in the NFC North a couple more here. We've got Brett Kaisel Signature materials Jersey and Otto 249 out of 249 sub Arthur. What's going on? FC North Patrick and last but not least We've got some Patriots Jarrett stittum 165 out of 199 Jersey and autograph Pat's AFC East Corey with that one that'll go to you Corey points How to give those points away 400 points is a decent amount Split back to this list right here. Everyone's got a shot at it Corey down to Jarrell new list new dice Let's roll it randomize it hard for name on top after four one two three and Four the name on top after four gets four hundred points John. Oh, there you go John I don't think I called your name at all in this break. So Little consolation prize. I'm Joe for jazby's case breaks calm. Thanks for watching. I'll see you next time for the next one