Welcome to ToffeeTV, it is the season preview, Premier League season started back already. My God, give us a rest please. Oh no. Well this is it, it's like with the World Cup and everything being on, then the transfers and now it's straight back on. It is pretty exhaustive. That was a test and you failed, I can't wait for the season. Can't you? No, it's back isn't it? No, it's just buzzing to have it back obviously. Yeah, you've changed your tone now haven't you? Listen, listen, I thought you flashed me the bird then Baz. That really hurt me. That really hurt me. That went flipped like it's me. No like seriously though, I think we could do with a little break because I'm exhausted from covering this, that and everything else but just nice to have. We say it every year, pre-season. It should be, I've got someone who's a bit more enthusiastic about the start. Pre-season is very much become its own thing now hasn't it? Yeah. It's become its own thing in terms of the transfers, in terms of the friendly games. There's such a spotlight put on it now, you're right it does feel like. It's so, it's so tiring pre-season because there's no 40, but last season it was like when it's going good for you, everyone's like yeah it's the best time of the year but when it goes badly for you, it's like, it can be exhausting especially with social media and stuff so I'm glad to just get the real stuff going. Yeah definitely. And also that the transfer window shuts as well. So therefore it's done, it's dusted, we don't have to worry about all that stuff and we can get right into it. I haven't gone badly. No, I mean to be fair what's a bit different about this one is, I think you've been looking at what a new man is just bringing as of well as as opposed to the results. If this was like say Marco Silva's second season and we'd had then run the results you had to start looking and going, I'm a little bit worried about it. What it's done very well is highlighted the gaps in the squad. That's what we needed and that's what they're addressing as we move forward. Yeah we must say we are recording this before the deadline day, I'm sure because obviously, because we've got to. Basically but the players they've got coming in. Hopefully they've already entered. And addressed some issues that the squad's showing up. So for me that's been a real plus because I think sometimes, listen this might not have happened because I think they know what they want but I think for fans perspective sometimes if you start winning those games you start looking at certain players and going actually like him he might be alright. Yeah. You know like Marales saying how he's gone to Fiorentina but he started off quite bright and you started looking going, I wonder if he'd be and then you're going now. See I'm glad there wasn't any of that though. I'm glad Marales has gone, I'm glad Williams has gone. No I'm saying that's why the results helped. That's what I'm saying. I'm glad that the history wasn't rewritten and that both players are gone now. Yeah. The manager's like I know what I want and it's just the case of getting players out and getting players in and we'll start playing the way I want to play. That's it and I think you know it's been a mammoth task and there's still a mammoth task left to be done as well. You know the pre-season has been used for exactly that so what we've seen a lot of is pretty much the whole, what did we start off with 38 players or something mad like that. We've seen an awful lot of those have game time and so many chopping and changing for our pre-season games so you can't really gauge what we've seen as you know that's the team we're going to go with. Saturday was the closest we got to it so he's had to go through those games to use them to go yeah we're going to give you all a fair crack of the whip but you not good enough so plus the requirements out the door and then bringing in the new guys as well so it's a lot of big job now. It's so hard as well because you know it's a balancing act of getting the two things right, of getting the fitness right which if you don't get it right it will be shown up in the season and I think it's been shown up in the last you know certainly last season and certainly to you know the second and third season under Martinis not having those proper pre-seasons getting you know working hard shown so we'll see that as the season goes well listen you know before we get into all that kind of thing that you know you see teams in the Premier League and you look at them and you see teams we were winning games late on and they're not winning because of the quality they're winning because everyone's got quality in the Premier League but if you've got quality and you've got players you can play to the 95th minute and you know that gives you that extra we've seen that last season we've seen like coming down to playing Bournemouth, it's 1-1 with a lot you know and you see them day and energy and Bournemouth did that a lot last season and day and energy towards more of these teams used to be you know we used to know if we were still in the game the last 10 minutes there'd be something something there and we might be able to nick it so having that finish is such a big thing and some of those games we've seen we you know the players have come out afterwards and said you know we did double sessions today and we played the game we're looking leggy, black bean we looked very very leggy you could see all the players looked tired and so from that point of view it is that difficult balance to act and listen we've said it loads of times the season might start on Saturday against Wolves but it's not all about what happens on Saturday against Wolves it's something that you know will evolve over time you just hope that base level that default setting is good enough to beat teams in the first few weeks it's what we had Coomans first season when that default level was good enough to beat those other teams because everyone's the same everyone for the first few weeks is finding the feet and a lot of them are just getting by and what have you got and as I say under Coomans that first season we beat those teams because just as a just about playing football what could we do we could get the ball to the wrong and we could score goals it was those following games you know the first five fine and the next time we were like everyone's fine the feet we were like well actually we haven't found our feet we can't just rely on that and that's where the evolution of football comes on so I think I think people have got to remember that it will evolve during the season yeah definitely it's everyone has that first game focus and the panic and over it and everything else but it's not about like I've just said before with the preseason if it was second or third season with silver then yeah it's a different aspect you're looking at but when a manager's coming in you're trying to change a lot of things in preseason and getting new players in and get out of where you're playing it's part of the journey that the journey but it's part of where you go it's part of that transition of making the team an identicate of yourself and how you want them to play and you might not click until October and November but then that has to go through then and carry through with you as a manager it's no good starting off like a house on fire and losing your way and then nothing sticks kind of thing and I think that's what some fans have got to remember and you can panic you know people are panicking and moaning and have been you know and it's if we're not right by wall static we're gonna go down and you're like we're gonna go down that's what people are like if we don't get this and we're getting relegated and you're like no to joke that you know so it is what it is but that's that's the thing it's about being ready for the whole season not just over yeah well we should grow into it shouldn't we we might start the season slowing and grow into the season obviously we've got a pretty good kind fixture list to start off this season I think when you look at maybe even the first six they're kind of winnable I know it's you know with yet to gauge because we we don't know how other teams are going to be looking as well but the thing for me will be if Everton miss out on these points now that's when people are going to be going oh we should have been beating them at home and Wolves away Southampton at home with this and the other form of those kind of teams so I want to see us hit the ground running of course we all do don't we obviously but it's not the be an end all that if we go to Wolves on Saturday and we end up losing the game let's not all lose our heads because we've got to remember this team haven't had we still obviously the time we're recording and stuff we're not sure but there's still people to come in that are going to be hopefully starters you know you know so these plays that are going to go straight into that start in 11 centre halves and they're going to take time even when yeah Pickford's not back yet you know Bernhardt for he's not going to be these plays that have just come in they're going to need time it's going to it's not going to happen ready for Wolves like that. Wilcoff has another preseason but Charleston's only played a couple of games you know Sigarton has another full preseason Ghana has another full preseason yeah there's you know then you only just come in half our start in team you know you just have a team there that will come in and need to bed in and it will take time and you know it's a double edged sword with the fixtures because they are good fixtures to bed in but if you haven't bedded in and you and you don't get make the most of them let's just say then people will start panicking but we should have enough as a default I keep on using that word default to get results but obviously we've still got problems and we know where the problems are it's just whether it would just be interesting to see during the season how the manager looks at that and caters for it and whether he says well lads we can't play this way we want to play because we don't necessarily have the players whether he'll say well you know what no we'll play the way we'll play and hopefully hopefully we'll make the best of it I think he tried to do that at Wofford last season and that's why he's seen a lot of three twos and whatever you know big score lines and we don't want to want that you know I don't know if we can take that but if we've got more quality and we're fitter than teams and you hope that the flipside we will get the results but it's a big job I think it's a big challenge we knew that already and I think that's what people are losing sight of is how go back to Southampton, go back to Atalanta, go back to those nights and remember how big a night it was Sam Aladise came in and did the job I think he was brought in to do and his default setting is very much a different default setting but it was enough he got the most out of those players in his the way he wanted to play to get the results to get us out of trouble and finish in eighth place but the style of play was poor and that's what this manager's been brought in to do it's a legacy project as well it's there for him to be here in five, six, seven years and one of us has been here in six months for the start but you know he's a legacy project, the owner's already said that to him he's already said to him we want you to take him into Bramley Mordock so we'll be here in 15 years he will be the man you know because if he is the guy that takes us if he's here for seven years then that means he's done his job properly is that what you're saying seven years have you put that on? seven years exactly but not Bramley bro no no just the itch that's when we're going to lift the league title again no I think maybe five out of push but yeah I think it's you've made me completely lose my trail of thought then Alped it's what I'm very confident about well that's what we're hoping aren't we we're hoping that everything's settled it's a long term a long term you've got me back now yeah you know and that's what we've got a hope in and given the tools and the fans have got to get behind them and all and I think they are and I think they will and I think these signs will help and I think everyone can see with what's going on behind the scenes where the club is going and where it's different from certainly do you think everyone can see that though? no genuinely because I don't think they can I think some people can and I think some people can't and I think other people want to but the scared of being hit again I think the theme of pre-season has been panic people still feel rightly or wrongly and I would suggest on a hope wrongly that people still feel that the club is still running in the same way and it doesn't even matter that there's a new board and there's a new director of football and there's a manager it's almost like we're defined you know like clubs have a defined way of playing or a defined way is won or whatever we just seem to have a defined way we shouldn't be going into the last couple of days of the season still trying to get to the transfer window still trying to get a very important piece of the team which is a centre back whoa whoa whoa whoa but we shouldn't though shouldn't we? that's fine you can woe me all you want I'm woeing you you said and it's I know what I said couple of weeks ago that if it meant us hanging on to get the person we wanted then that's what we should do but I don't panic that's the point I'm quite comfortable with the situation that's what you've done to get what you want to I'm quite comfortable with the situation Baz I'm quite comfortable with the situation because I don't see it with what people need what some people need to remember you've got a decision to make haven't you now you can't moan about the likes of Davey Klassen what you talking just in general but some people will moan about like Klassen or they'll moan about Balasi or they'll moan about Keane because they'll be paid too much for them and then moan when the club doesn't just grab players that they can grab yeah if the club have got a Marco Silva said himself the other day he's identified who they want and he's been trying to get them and he ought to get them and ultimately they will probably get who they want or near enough so that's good yeah it is good but that's what you know the big dafty aiming us for the other lot is that he goes that's who I want now there's obviously a fine balancing that with the Giroud stuff last season with us but he was offered good alternate cumin and didn't take them and I believe Silva will take them as an alternate but you've got to decide what you want I think you either want the club to try and get the best players they can or you want the club to just grab any player and I think some of our fans just want us to grab any player and then they want to be able to moan if it doesn't work yeah no I think that's that's exactly right it's there's mass panic amongst Devatonians at the moment I think with the Bernard thing that calm things a little bit everyone seemed happy because of the manner it was done it just kind of came out of nowhere and everyone's going okay point proven we'll put our faith in these guys because clearly they're doing stuff right but Charleston as well even Dinje and he came out and said that two months ago him and his agent were approached so that to me says all I need to know about what these guys are trying to do and they're achieving it for me as well it's just the fact that yeah we all know the massive issues that we've got in central defence and they're probably even central midfield and stuff like that as well that people wanted to see sorted but you don't want to just end up bringing rubbish in as well we've got to go is this player going to improve our side is this better than what we've got now because ultimately you could end up bringing in players that haven't forbid because it's terrifying might not be as good as a Michael Keane or so and you know I think that you don't want to put all their eggs in one basket and then miss out like you said about Giroux you know we sold the best striker we had for 30 years we're like we're having him he's coming in oh it's not we're going to sign a striker then we'll be fine you know we can't we cannot do that this time but I don't think it'll happen promise from the outside and because we live in the world we live in now everything's amplified everything's on social media you know it only takes one person to put a tweet out and then that tweet is the amount of times I see like at this circle of you know of transfer transfer stuff where a room is put out by someone who's supposed to be might have a little blue technique his name and then someone someone who picked that up in another country and then they run with it and then because they are seen it's been incredible because again they've got a blue technique next to them and then it comes back over here and then you're like they shed it kick it or you know or some Italian fella shed it and then it's like that's it and that just causes like yesterday like yesterday or whenever it was so you've got Bernard and it's like Sky is saying Chelsea's going to make a like bid oh well Chelsea's going to come in and take that's it they're going to take and it's like well hang on hold your horses Sky we know we've got reputation now for throwing names that's the right incentive because of the Sky betting and all that and there's like day that's the thing they keep people interested but it just plays into the fears and that's what I'm saying it's just it plays into fear and worry of all Evertonians because every time we seem to get something good it just gets taken away from us but if we keep living by that it will be jammed it will be taken away because people will continue to do that but you've got it at some stage but I think like there's got to be a change the problem was I think that time is a lot so man well it wasn't we all got very excited and so we should have it was the first time we'd had money to spend on it it didn't work out and we've made the changes and we have to move on but there's got to be there's got to be taking pictures of people in San Carlos as well yeah there you go there's got to be a situation where we start to to kind of just go well you know almost what will be will be yeah so to speak and trust what's going on let them do that job because that's gone on trust is the way it is it's gone on just look at the charliss you know it was linked early on and we were like no we were saying we don't think what we were we were told was that Wafford won't do business with Everton well that's what the player wanted it well the player has forced it and they've probably just gone you know what they're not at all if he doesn't want to be which is fine you know so they've been able to do these deals so you've got to just kind of go look let them get on with it they're not stupid they know they know what they're doing leave them be they won't end up without areas they need strength in it I think this I understand where it's come from it's come from Ronald Cuban and Steve Watts really that's where it's come from then not doing what they should have done you've just got to look at brands you know coming in as the club's director of football the fake one that's a glorified scout that's the thing Steve Walsh is a scout he was never a director of football and I think people it's like you know you've been burned and people are panicking completely different couldn't be more chalk and cheese with Steve Walsh and brands and then silver and cumin they couldn't be more different and for me they've proved that they're doing their job well I know there's you know as fans we've had it so rough last season with the high expectation to just that was one of the worst seasons I've ever experienced there's never never won anything like that again and I think that's where the fears come from and we're just like oh my god we're leaving it to the wire we're going to end up missing out on all these players and it's like they're doing their job and for me they're doing it well I'm Swansea and West Brom I'm going to swap the rest up Swansea and West Brom yeah maybe see that when we go on about no but we'll like your fans go like west ever and you're like yeah we finished 8th but teams went down let's let's let's have a little bit of perspective as well I watched Devon under Walter Smith yeah but that was where we were expected to be we were expected to be fighting relegation every year that's not the expectations of a lot of people though I think I don't know what people's expectations are no one's ever no one's ever good they're only as high as I suppose they're built up to be and last year they were built up by Michelle as well I think we should be aiming we should be trying to win the league no I know because that's if you're not going into a competition to win it what's the point but then you've just set false expectations haven't you well yeah because I'm saying for me is that we should be going into trying to win it and then if we fall short then you're hoping that's quite that quite a way up but the way I see it is you're going and trying to build something that way the way I look at it this season is just going back to what you're saying there is about being burnt and stuff brands I will brands I'm fully just think that I was more excited about getting him than anything I think he knows the job inside and out and I think he's doing the job I'm a little bit more open minded about Michael Silver I can't fully commit to him in terms of I think he's going to oh it's going to do an amazing job because I simply don't know where's a look at brands and I think he'll do the job he's allowed to do and I think he'll do it well Silver I just don't know I can't commit to I don't want to commit anyway I don't want to be one of these people who's going to go oh it's going to be amazing because even if he does everything even if he works 24 hours a day 7 days a week a lot of things just are just taking out your hands the minute those football is going on the pitch so I hope he does really well I'm prepared to back him but there's still that well it might not work but brands I think it will work because I just think he knows the job and his and what brands does is completely different all his job is is to find good players and only but his job is to find good players and then give them to the manager and then that's when the real task starts isn't it really so I think brands will do a good job Silver will have to wait and see but you know so far so far I think it's going in the right direction because there's a I think there's a they're on the same page yeah I think that's the main that's the main thing they're on the same page and they've made that very clear what they want and where they want to go and let's just I don't think there's any I honestly don't believe there's any manager here go get in and expect them to do that job I think everything's a flip of a coin I think you look at manager and you go look at Merino when he went in everyone's like he'll win the league definitely within two years he'll win the league look at Pep Guard the owner of the season before last as well like you know obviously they did all right I think with Pep it's slightly different just because the coach he is and the resources he's got but then again you will say the same but Merino he's got big resources and couldn't do it you know see after I think everyone's like a moose seller no one wanted to take the game the Liverpool did and he's been fantastic for them other players you'll sign when Chelsea bought Torres it was like I was guaranteed he was so it is a flip of a coin but I'm fully behind Silver because I think I felt disconnected with Everton last year under Cumban and Allardyce so I don't feel disconnected with them under Silver because I want to believe in them and I want them to do well and I'm going to back them and ultimately he falls short but that's the way it is you've got to you've got to try and get behind them as much as you can yeah well this is something we talk about how they did it so well as hard as it was to see and it still is the manager they've got in the players they've signed the fans it is like a sort of they're all in it I didn't want to say the word you were there I've got the pen to say it for me but it is like they're all totally on board with them so you could yeah they're cold they're drunk they're drunk didn't they maybe we should start but you know what that's what most good teams do though most well run clubs they do they have a focal point at the top who who isn't scared to say things that might alienate alienate some of the fan base Moise used to do it all the time Moise would make a decision the guy on the street what are you making that decision for and then something that happened positive from that decision on the street I told you and the crowd was cold club said remember when club started having a go at them forgetting off air and stuff like that he was going to start the goal he just said why is all getting off why aren't yous behind us even if we get beat why are people like if we play if we wake up and we get beat what have we done wrong we've just been beat and he he breaks it what that did was and it's very on trend in the world at the moment that said to the people yeah I'm allowed to have a go at you you why are you getting off air well you know I'm not saying that but that creates that thing of like we're all supposed to be in this together and again don't want to harp on about them but as far as I'm concerned there are rivals and I always look to them if they're doing well yeah when that stupid thing when he took them down the court where he when he drew and he given them all that that was just the thing to say thank you you stopped with us in this game alright we didn't win but why does it always have to be about winning sometimes remember when we got beat on boxing day by Sunderland and everyone caught out going we got beat but you know what we had to go there and we were really unlucky it was a positivity which just wasn't our day no one walked out going triple eleven again triple eleven but you know when we got beat everyone was like we were just unlucky they couldn't have given any more and sometimes that's football sometimes that should and I think we've lost sight of that I remember when I remember being in the street and the people beat us to you know you know and we were and we were it was a big ass it was a big ass thick thick thick I think is the word yeah thick is what the kids use they was a thick yeah or fat H H no fat pure 90s reference it's back for you it hit him on the arse and we had the right go go and they beat us to you know in the end everyone most people stayed yeah because they lost the game but they had that go go and it was you know after a moment for a certain amount of people there's a disconnection but there's a disconnection I think because it's just been creeping in and there's a lot of people who go well I've just seen too much now and I'm beating them which is fat it's not nam it's fat no no no it's fat but at some stage at some stage you've got to just go reset go again let's go I think you used that phrase again let's reset it and start fresh and that's what we have to do and I think if we do that I think the players will respond and I think the fans will respond and we'll be we've watched enough we've watched enough people to know that together at the end of the day if you put two teams to get out there and they both give it 100% you know if you get beat and you get beat by quality you just have to load your hands up and that's I suppose that's something that might have probably gone missing in this team that when we do get beat it's like you can see the you can see cracks or you can see the you know bad decisions of costors rather than just look but there has been lack of effort as well so so I think that's the first thing that the manager has to has to make sure is that when and I think that's happened in pre-season I think a lot of the games he's gone well they've had to go there and they've done what I asked them to do and that's all he said himself when he first came in you know and I hadn't heard the manager say for a while it was like we're going to wear as hard as we can every single day every day to make you proud and all that but we're going to put everything in in training training's going to be hard they're going to you know and that's what's happened and the people maybe the people who haven't put it in out of the club or have been excluded from the group from the group it's not like Mark Hughes the project the group it's Greek it's Greek Greek group Greek group Greek group and we're on branding now Greek group post-off envelope terrible you're almost went broad just dutch there as well you needed to be completely lost what I was going to say now you know who's going to do the job for me who isn't going to do the job for him and I mean I'm happy overall I think with the results not great of course but they don't matter they don't matter as such so I'm happy with I think I'm reasonably happy with with pre-season for a start and points given who we've managed to move out yeah you know we've moved players out you know obviously they're like Sir Wayne's gone Davey Klasson McFooners Morrie Big Wages where Alice is out Williams is out you know I think I think when we sat down in the summer at the end of the last season and it was like there's got a big job whoever's coming in there and they've managed to move some big players out you know some kids out on loan you've been able to train the squad that way you know looks like a couple more are going to be on the way out as well and they've replaced them with some quality and we've got some kids coming through and they've had a go so where we are and the job that that brands and fields seem to be doing has filled me with some confidence obviously the real stuff begins at the weekend but that's like we said you know it's no point to train a manager a situation needs time and then not exactly you look at the players that have come in as well and there's a few that have come in that are going to be starters and I think what we've had an issue with is we've had I do I think they'll all be starters I really do because I think that's what what's needed this is it so say the players we've got and that's like half a team that have outfilled players that have come in and then one thing we've had issues with has been that we've had players left over from the Moise era then Cooman Unns were for a brief spell as well so we've got this weird cocktail Martinez sorry yeah of course so we've got this weird cocktail of a squad that you can tell is clinking you can tell this person doesn't get on with that person what you're seeing on the pitch is a bunch of strangers that yes they're very talented and have ability not necessarily all have done but like you said it tells the ones that kind of can't be bothered and I think having those players come in for me you saw like Richarlison and even in the things that they play really looks like they've got that kind of thing that we miss about Everton they want to prove I'm going to give it everything here and I'm going to try hard and the knock on effect of that hopefully is that the others kind of think well we have to because they're showing us up here and yeah I think we've got to give them time we can't just say this is going to take time and then we'll be jumping down this story and panicking and becoming keyboard warriors because we've lost few pre-season friendlies you know we've got to be realistic and that they're doing the job definitely to the best of their abilities and from what I've seen it's moving in the right direction but yeah it's not going to you know it's not going to happen it's not going to click and on top of that you've got Towson and Walcott who only came in in January you know Jeng Towson took a month after that you know before he really clicked you know he was a good play machine at the weekend against Valencia the difference he makes to our side was movement you know his ability on the ball you know you're throwing you know the Bernard and the Towson all of a sudden you're talking from the team that started last season you're talking seven, eight new players you know it's two days of a team so have we gone up a level in terms of quality of play you'd have to say yes definitely are they performing as a team well that remains to be seen what I want as well from the managers I want them to be in there long enough that he identifies who all the shit ours are you know what I mean I don't think we've had them I don't think we've had them but with the authority of course with the authority that's new the old way but he just didn't have he just didn't have the ability to get rid of them because obviously when he came in he couldn't get rid of anyone in January really and he probably would have got a few riddim in this summer because he would have known exactly who they were and this manager would be doing the same again I look at some like Pochettino when he went into space one of his defining things was getting there and separating the people who wanted to work and people who didn't want to work and make sure you got rid of all the people who didn't want to work because at the end of the day they're the ones who can be letting you down and train he was one of them he was the classic point well we know the classic point come on I like hearing you say I'm just tounsend eat some bunge bigger shit I was like yeah so he got where's he now Palace exactly so he got rid of all those players that weighing up to scratch and that's all I think what Silver did we do exactly the same thing given the chance and I think he's done that already I think he's done that already he's been man enough to do that already and it's no no surprises you do you know what I mean so and there's lads in there well maybe there's one standing around there's lads in there who you might have gone they know up for it but he's probably gone well actually they are up for it what they lack in what they lack maybe in talent the willing to give back in work right and sometimes isn't that with the ass yeah definitely sometimes you need them in your squad though would you rather have someone who brings the squad down who's got but he's got all the talent in the world or thinks he does keep them else would you rather have someone who's prepared to fight and give that little bit extra yeah you know so I don't know you know it's up to them now to grab this team and make it his own again for the fourth year and all that's what it feels like doesn't it though well it does but I feel it's about now what I feel is though it's it seems I think because of brands to be honest with you I don't get teams that much here he's got what he wanted he wanted brands two years ago and me ended up with I feel like the foundation is finally in place I'm hoping that anyway I mean I don't really want to go I can't go over because nothing's happening but we're in the league woo hoo or a cup a cup a multi cup the Australian cup but I don't make so what would be a good season in this season because we're trying to see we're trying to have realistic expectations of where we've come from and where we want to go so what would be a good season top three FA cup league cup to be honest I think the league cup the league cup I would be targeting I would I'd be targeting and go for that because I think in the forward areas we've actually got players you can in a cup situation could be the difference in some games and I think this year the league cup doesn't happen anyway the FA cup is is one offs as well now there's never straighter not all of them not all of them utterly mad but I think the league cup and then you know what if we were to finish I think I personally think we'll finish seven I think we'll have to squad to finish seven but if we finished eighth again and won a league cup God that would be that would be a brilliant season for us because I'd get rid of the trophy Malachi that's it which is dragging on and on and that's Europe guaranteed so eighth you know you're not getting any worse but I I honestly believe everyone will finish in seventh place but you know obviously this is without a ball because you don't know but that's what it's really hard isn't it to try and call what we think's going to happen here because it's like I'd almost say anything between sort of seventh and even potentially like 10th, 11th or something because we just do not know how it's going to go I'd like to think that it's going to be seventh because I still think that there's the top six that are going to why aren't you there's big big changes at like Chelsea and Arsenal so there's always one that drops you know yeah I don't feel like anyone else has affected that though I think they can they can affect themselves so much but I don't think anyone else has affected that do you know what I mean I don't think we've done that enough I don't think I see you like the likes of Leicester who've bought well and will be pushing for seventh place I see West Ham the players they've both they'll be pushing for seventh place I just don't think anyone's done anything remarkable enough to upset you know what those teams have done in the top six I can't imagine Arsenal having a worse season than they did last season I can't see Chelsea having a worse season I just can't see anyone I think it's got to be it's got to be it's going to be gradual not just for Everton because for the players we've bought Leicester have done I think they've done really good business I think but if they lose they've lost my arse no I don't but I think they've no I don't well you say it's all ifs I'll do enough because he's not what I'm saying can actually know that if they lose him as well no I don't but what I'm saying is that is what I'm saying is that but we're talking about you've got to take the top six out and look at them as rivals for where we're going and then remember where we're going so you look at them I think West Ham have bought reasonably well and I think they've finished the season with the organisation that they can take forward into this season so I think they'll be as you said Sarah it's everyone from seven to like 13th place pretty much and then I mean you've got all the teams in there you know it'll be interesting to see what Wolves do and Fullham do with the new Sinons but then it'll be more interesting to see what Bournemouth do yeah definitely you know teams like Daddy Palace Palace they've bought well Palace has got some good players they've got good foundations yeah that's it and you know I think that has to be the realistic aim is to be the best of the rest if you like I'd be happy with that I'd be happy with eight again if I saw visible improvement that okay instead of just seeing random eleven fellas on a pitch like no one knows each other's names and they all ate each other and it's awful to watch if we can see that there's tangible progress and we've actually got a system now and we're sticking to that and we've got an identity and everyone goes okay this is what Marco Silva Everton Sides gonna deliver for us week and week out to see that that's happening you know then we need a few more transfer windows this is something that's gonna take time but I think if we can establish ourselves as best of the rest good good season playing good football with some form of identity I wanna say cup run but not even a cup run let's win a trophy like you said it's been I was three whenever I won a trophy I'm just bored of MP but every time they come to Goodison and you haven't won a trophy just get that done so we can just tell them to do one wash when we watched us win the league stop it see especially that second time very nice greed greed even an FA cup I mean not an FA cup 90 per hour is good do you know what I was alive but I was like I walked up Wembley way with a McDonald's balloon it was not the time in my life I just I just been another happy meal what a time to be alive what a time to be alive happy meal and then the FA cup you I paid 30 pounds for a ticket and a seat that had no back and I thought that was expensive yeah don't know your born mate no no I love winning the charity shield so many families so many families do you know what I'd well you got to win some to win that haven't you can't even can't even have that can't even blackie weight didn't even win the Algarve Cup there's only 47,000 in that day wasn't there there's a 47000 47000 47000 terrible terrible terrible didn't we yeah we won it people were like I'll come to Wembley again our stay the other week stop it stop it stop it the video on the market stills big joe big joe goes to Wembley part two that was the first like that was the first thing first thing for this now it's as I say I think I don't know people might be thinking we'll be lucky to finish there and people might be thinking I actually don't think anyone's going to think we can finish that in seven but I mean you never know I think you never know you never know but I think I think it's again it's a double edged sword not having Europa League that's good is it isn't it isn't I like being in Europe but I can understand but I think last season we just never got a chance to catch our breath no we needed this break once we got in that once we got in that after September once September we came back from the international break and we had the you know the first game and that's how I answered away we didn't stop yeah for like four months we used two games a week every week for I think I think what he we've done this before I think what he done wrong was he should have started with a settle team without blood everybody in it no no we don't need to go over that no but I'm saying not for some mistakes but I think this season now because there'll be more time between games you can get them on the training pitch and you can work them and you can I think set pieces are going to be a big thing this season I think you're going to see a lot more set piece routines defending learning the basics of defending all those things how to defend how to defend no we talked last couple weeks ago about about corners defending corners and having you know you go man marking or you go zonally and you were saying I hate zonal except for the point being for the thing with zonal it's though zonal if you if you work on it every day and play as a drilled every single day why do you think top managers like you it's because it eliminates what if you've got if you've got an opposition right just from a purely football right and they've got a way of doing corners right that means that you've got to lane how they do their corners every single week right so why would you want that when all you need to do is go let's not worry about what the opposition and do we're playing zonal we get drilled on zonal every every every day every week so you get so good at it that you know your job it doesn't matter what the opposition does if you know your zone then you know your zone managers prefer that it's less time consuming than having to go over videos of what do they do what do they do what if they've come up with something new in training that we don't know about or they didn't do that last time that eliminates that threat because you go we all know our jobs it doesn't matter where they run if they run into our zone we defend it that's why people like zonal marking oh just for me but this is the thing with zonal marking you have to have to be drilled in and it's going to take time which again we've got to be patient but when you're leaking goals left right in centre because I mean look at the defenders we've had as well even last season but it's just tired of seeing every time we've got a corner let me ask you the question it's the Michael Keane question let me ask you the question like how many goals have ever been conceded in preseason off set pieces he's going to say none aren't you is it actually been none I don't know none isn't it is it none but the point being right six I can't remember just going to leave it you're going to Twitter later mate put it this way guys put it this way you've got a game this weekend or next weekend and you've got Michael Keane would you be more worried about Michael Keane switching off off a runner or would you be more worried about Michael Keane knowing where he's got to stand Michael Keane strikes me as a defender who just needs he needs someone telling them what to do he's a play by play for everything doesn't he and that's why he's so good at barely that's why he's fired at barely right would go over defending every day that's the basics is what wins points for them starting at the back that's what noise did every single day start from the back you start with a draw and if you score you get a win that's the way he thought that's the way that's the way you think apparently so if you've got someone a defender like him who's drilled every day I would rather see him go this is my space I know how to defend that bull comes in bang I had it away I'd rather that then go oh god he's run away from me that's why people like someone like man to man because you're accountable so if I run off you and I score he's as and pick them up that's what it is that's good that's just the crossover that's good for yeah you're right that's good for accountability that's all I can blame you for doing it that's all I got that's all I got because my hat it wasn't my hat it wasn't my hat and his man where's only you like bull you just got to get better like you just said mouge I remember Osmond saying you know the okay if they can see the stupid goal Monday morning they knew for two hours they were doing the same drill so that goal and he said it was that bore and we never considered it again because we didn't want to be back there doing the same thing doing that yeah do you know the big if you do that every day silver's like that silver's apparently fanatic over it over and over the biggest the biggest one you can say and I don't even know you'll be remember this Sarah but Lee Carthley was the best owner defender ever he should have that throw post and every time the bull is headed away headed away every single time you don't need to mark anyone if you know Ross started doing it when he switched in the second seat in the sorry after Christmas the zone were marking Ross on the near post and then he headed loads away most teams they try and get a flat corner in that is anything will knock it towards goal so if you get someone from post bang away bang away Lee has used to do for fun what to do all the time that's what I know we've gone on about the point but that's what he'll be doing in training or he'll be getting drilled in certain situations attacking and defending and I think that's why you go into your open league games you've got you've got the travel if you're away then you train in the day ground you won't really be doing anything you're just doing stuff for the cameras it's a requirement and then you're flying back and then you're missing and you're not prepping you play it for the important game in the Premier League on the Saturday I think you do need to be in it you do we do but you want to be at a level well you want to be at a level and you want to be away you want to have that way you're playing established so that nothing dips you don't want to be trying to lean on the you players or leaning it shouldn't be leaning it's almost like leaning on the job and we've had that for so long happened over the last few years well to be fair look at Martin this was second season we went far in Europe we went far in Europe because we everyone knew kind of the way the way we play exactly every player knew what he wanted so it enabled us to cope with Europe quite well cope with it we absolutely smashed the banks off it until he started doing names and I had to play in defence now we would have had better defenders we'd have gone far in that we should have won it in the last few years that's fair we should have done well better than John Stone it's about we should have played so that's so it's a season of transition we get that and I think that brings its own issues because fans have got it fans have got it sort of realised that it will it will be up and down there will be up and down periods but we want progress and the only way we're going to get that is if we're seeing the team develop so hopefully that'll happen in terms of individuals I just throw this one at you yeah who do you think is going to be out to a goalscorer this season Towson yeah okay I think it has to be but I think Walcott is going to get quite a few as well I think the Charleston is going to be out to a goalscorer do you think he will I think he is okay I hope so I'm getting the predictions I just think I think with Towson as we've seen at the weekend if you give him chances he scores goals I mean his ratio last year was just under 50% shots of goals which was high albeit 12 shots and 5 goals yeah but it was one of the conversion rate was really high I think if we can give him the opportunities he's not a sense of over that misses the target he generally makes the keeper make a save and I think if you do that more than not you'll get the goals and I think last season when he was playing we had Theo on one side he was learning about what's playing and different things and we had Balacio on the other side he was just happy to be playing football again we weren't there he created throwing it in without getting it throwing it in without looking just doing anything so I think looking at the side we've got now naturally we've got better players around them I think he'll feel be better so I think I can see him come on in with goals but you're right and I've got Charleston for me I just think that because the team is adapting will we get enough chances to Towson to be making the top goals because with Charleston I think he might just make things add nothing which is the same and on that way I like I hope they are sort of fighting it out for top scorer because what with Charleston has shown as well since he's come in he has got that you know desire to score goals and make things happen and I think I know he's got one he probably could have had about five to be honest and that says it all so if he can you know sharpen up in front of goal on that final product then but yeah Towson the thing that goal against Valencia on Saturday was just him like in a nutshell wasn't it Walcott did so well to battle for him get the ball knocks it to him and he just doesn't even look and you kind of before even strikes the ball we're like that's going in and it was dead easy but it wasn't but it made it look dead easy that's it the thing is the strikers know where the goal is so they don't have to look up what all the great strikers have had anyone it's to know exactly where you are so you don't it's like what goalkeepers have so they don't need to look behind them to go always the goal you know exactly the hardest thing actually is a striker to do well all right top assist top assist there who's going to create the most chances Bernard no it could be Bernard actually I'm going to say it's a flip this for me between Richard Allison and Walcott see I'm going to say second you were going to say second that's why I went through and thought I'm going to say the same thing so I'm going to go for Richard Allison okay Sarah I probably would have said Richard Allison but I'll go if you think you're there you can I'll say Theo let's make it a bit more interesting well I'm going to say Sigerton he's went for Bernard he's went for Bernard so I'm going to one of us will be right because I think this season set pieces are going to be so important and I think Sigerton's going to create a lot I hope so but that corner he took because he was pretty anonymous for me on Saturday I thought he how dare you how dare you don't ever I'd say don't ever do this again it happens all the time like my heart actually misses a beat I swear to God the effect on women this is it this is it but now that that cross that's not and what ever gender you are gender neutral the effect on them as well on me apple we don't discriminate on them how much he shouted there me apple wobbled don't your apple wobbled is that a euphemism no okay it's there oh I don't even know what that means but it just sounded wrong didn't it it meant he shouted and me apple moved on the that's what it meant what were you going to say what was I going to say kids think that's an apple it's not a samsung it's not a samsung that'll be a bit silly you should just read so gilfy I think is going to have a large effect yeah I hope so because for me the price tag we can't keep talking about that but it's hard not to it's hard not to it's hard not to it doesn't matter what you pay for a player it doesn't matter what you pay for a player it doesn't matter what you pay for a player you use the daily mail it doesn't matter what you pay for a player if you want someone if you want them bad enough you'll pay a silly Chelsea are paying 70 million for a goalie I've never heard of football hipsters like you know your blue room associate probably will know the stats of how big his undies are but I don't even know he isn't they're paying 70 million for it so chill out no my fingers right I'll make your apple level well now the thing is we have that right so forget the price tag right forget the price tag when you look at what he's done I've got money I've got money I've got money that looks like that but I think when you look at when you look at what he's capable of and being this leader and I know it's a very different level for like completely different sides as well like Iceland and Swansea and stuff but he seems to be this guy that people look to where you're like he's gonna make things happen he's gonna grab this game grained by the screw for the neck and he's gonna do stuff that's not grained he's killing me today I swear but no I think that's what I want to see more of it no he does your right he needs to step up is what I'm trying to say but I thought last season without getting into it I thought last season it was a nice period of time we had Rooney and Sigarton we're dictating how we play games and don't forget he's still played a large amount of games off that left hand side which is not his natural position his natural position is either under number 10 or actually as a striker for Iceland he played he has a split striker mm-hmm we might ask him to change to go a little bit deeper but I don't see that as a problem I think Guilfe Siggins wants to be on the ball wants to move it around the ball to go through mm-hmm if he plays in in more attack on the field with Trigana and Bernard and him then he's got it's fluid so he's gonna be able to move anyway I think he can do that job he's one of the hardest working if not the hardest he is this is I just want to see more he's got loads of ability on the ball pace but he's got loads of ability on the ball I think he'd be fine I honestly think Guilfe would be sharp I hope so it's a big season for him I think he's just got to do that bit more like you said he's covering all the ground I can't fault his work rate at all but I just want to see more of those moments does Erikson's fight have someone's got loads of pace no but he's a bit more of a dribbler I would say technically better but that's what I'm saying I think I think Guilfe just needs to grab games a little bit more but that will help play playing you know sensory but don't forget now remember how I did some punches when he got injured he was starting to pull the strings he was he was you know what I mean and I think people forget that he didn't get wasn't fit on November when I started I've got to say when you actually think like we had him properly up to speed from November and he got injured early mat so we haven't had him either so when you had all of those you know Towson, Walcott Sigarton really and then you've thrown the Charleston you've got Bernad Bernad the Brazilian team Bernad in there has got a really old besides you Walcott about 12 years there was like Patentary I don't have to believe his name I'll load him because something goes wrong there's seven almost you know and then you've got Jerry Mayne you've got you've got Ronaldo and well we've got a chance to field us you've got loads in there of almost a new team will be here three or four of them with the last season as well so let's have a I want a bold prediction of you know who will be our player of the season I always want to pick for the game I hope it's not a pick for the game player of the season for me will be ah could go mad now I really want to say Bernad okay but I'm going to say Gratialis okay just say oh you're just going that was my answer though that was the thing I really wanted to be I think with Charleston will be player of the season my player of the season is going to be Everton's captain Sheamus Coleman Gratialis Sheamus Coleman I think is going to be like Gratialis just going to get he's going to get back captain's arm band I hope so and he's just going to be flying he's got to be the captain and he's got to be he's got to be he's got to be he's got to be he's got to be he's got to be you know there's a I don't think we I think in terms of there's just a there's a few little things that I'd like to have seen in pre-season wins we're all cuffs we're lovely no but I think just no like little things like saying Blasey you're not number seven anymore mate that's Gratialis you're you know you're not the number seven I don't give a flying fake right I don't care I would have gone your arm in number six oh something I would I'd like to have seen just a little bit more I don't think he wanted to strip people's numbers off them well I think you should I think you should be let them know where they stand anyway and I would have just gone fit I would have gone new captain Seamus not it be by proxy you know like well Jax isn't going to play Leighton Baines is not going to play oh that's just Lee and they give me make the tough decision let's Jagie Elka club captain and make Seamus the team captain that's what I would have done we was club captain he didn't play with Waggy with captain it's not an alien thing Jax is not it's not going to play as many games as Seamus Seamus Colvin is our team captain that's it though everything's on that lad because we know he should be everyone wants it to be he gives everything he questions everybody you know he demands a hundred percent of everybody and I think everyone will be responsible I think the crowd responsive I don't think you're the captain getting both going back to what Seamus said before well galvanising that dressing room getting rid of the clicks getting rid of he bought me he bought me Seamus Colvin I think will do that he's safe off the back because he'd go you know what but I think he won't because he's such a nice person but he can flip like that as well he can be nasty he can go around he can be nasty when you give me that simple five-year pass and then he'll get over he's got everything for me to be the captain that's what you need from a captain as well because Phil Jageelka for me fantastic football a fantastic servant to the club hasn't got enough fight and nastiness about him and you have to have that look at even pre-season the Baines yeah the Baines tackle the tackle on Baines and I was like that watching at the end because I thought this whistle goes just watch Shami right at him Jax is a lovely fella but he is he's the so Seamus Coleman but he's the Homer Simpson he's the Homer Simpson Giff isn't he I wouldn't say he was Homer Simpson Giff Homer Simpson Giff when he walks into the bushes now when it goes off that's Jax yeah it is where Seamus is straight straight straight straight all the time look at the big fight shall I that Hank fella off here the coffee the comedian fella nobody knew literally nobody knew in a minute yeah man fella Hank Hank is he the one that's always on what I like to you and like I know exactly now will you stop watching this on IPTV because I know you love a little bit of Deutschland 1 Deutschland 1 TV3 I got TV3 on Saturday didn't I in the Al Prespo the match TV school single more we broke laws we didn't break any laws we just said there it is it was on I don't know what can we say we were doing a pre-season game of Berry and Everton's technical scout came on to watch the game with our laptop there you go said to my blackbird if you want to watch any goals come over I wasn't even sure if it was the same fella I'm not going to do so because you're just luck maybe you you've got to recognize me yeah of course it's worth you yeah so there you go it's going to be a season a season a good season it's going to be an interesting season I think we're going to have plenty to talk about I think it's going to be good I'm really looking forward to seeing how Silver gets his team playing the way and after going on a mat so many times last season just being like a war of a session till it's finished now I'm actually excited so good be happy let us know your thoughts in the comments are you excited like Baz who's just bruised off of his legs yeah man it was more than noise did you like I mean now I'm just on about the woo yeah tell me a bit by surprise yeah tell me by surprise because I've seen it on my phone it's just bruised it's just bruised his apple Dr. Fox is just this week's let's go it's not Steve Owen who's going off is it anyway let us know your thoughts in the comments Steve is in his bath a champagne at the moment I told you he was coming I told you leave us your thoughts in the comments on anything to show us let us know your thoughts on who's going to be Evan's top goalscorer this season top of sister and who do you think is going to be the play the season leave them in the comments yeah we're not going to finish let us know in the comments we'll see you later