What's up, everyone? Welcome to the fan dual Sunday night recap. I'm your host Simon joint as always by my co-host, Josh, John, Luke and Jay. How's it going, boys? What up? What's happening? Some good football this weekend. Oh, man. One good football this weekend. And then just some other playoff football, you know, there was one close game. The other ones have been a little bit lopsided. It seems like so far, but man, I don't even care if it's lopsided. Just having playoff football, one game and a time to focus on the season on the line. It feels different, doesn't it? Like, like watching these games just has like a different feel than it has all season. Absolutely. I think you're muted, Josh. Is it is it something about that we just don't have fantasy players in these games? So we're just like for a big game, maybe. I don't actually enjoy football instead of. OK, do I have this guy on this team? Or, you know, OK, I need this guy to get these catches. Yeah, after that charge. Do you like that transition that? Yeah, that's very nice. Yeah, super nice. After that Chargers Sunday night game was a Chargers Raiders and nothing, nothing feels good anymore. Everything is bland. Everything is bland. Nothing else feels good. Man, I don't know that that Bengals game felt pretty good. That was fun to watch. That was that was a really fun game to watch. Guys, we have four games that have happened this weekend that we're going to run through today. Talk about the fantasy implications about what happened and what's going to happen going forward. Maybe some dynasty or redraft implications for next year and just about what the playoff picture looks like after these wild card games are done. We also have two games that we're going to preview tonight, the Sunday night football game between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Then we're going to preview the Monday night game as well between the Arizona Cardinals and the Los Angeles Rams before we do all of that. Though a quick reminder to everybody watching. If you're watching this, that means you're already on the fan duel, YouTube or Twitch channels. If you're on that YouTube channel, hit the like button on this video and subscribe to Fandal on YouTube. If you're on Twitch, hit follow. Then after you're done with that, make sure you head on over to their TikTok, their Instagram, their Twitter, their app Fandal on all of them. And there is a phenomenal team of content creators there helping you win some money throughout these playoffs to make sure you guys are subbed across all of Fandal's channels. Guys, if you're ready, I'm going to go ahead and pull up this Sunday night game that is going on tonight. The Pittsburgh Steelers sneaking into the playoffs off of a last second field goal by the Las Vegas Raiders who then promptly got eliminated. So that was a nice little gift to the Steelers. And tonight they are playing the Kansas City Chiefs. Sorry, Josh, did you have a large question? I always jump in and say, this is a, that's my mom. So I just want to say hi, mom. Hi mom. Hi mom. Hi mom. Oh yeah, Slick Vic. What's up, Slick Vic? Slick Vic. Also, we got Craig here saying, Josh acting like he already knew. So yeah, yeah, Slick Vic. Oh yeah. Good to see you there. Me and Slick Vic are way back. Didn't know you guys knew each other, Jay.  Cheer me up, FYF fam. We'll do our best, but we're going to have to talk about the Cowboys.  They just hit a field goal. There you go. So it's something. Thanks for ruining it for me, Josh. You must be ahead of me. Raven's football, welcome in, let's go. And Maria said, Craig, you're at Cowboys fans, can't believe it. You don't give off the Cowboys fan vibes apparently. Too nice. We got Joey in here said, you guys should see the blocks. These referees are setting for the Niners. Are they setting some good blocks out there? I must have missed it. And Kev, what's up? Bird up indeed. Bird up. And Craig's saying, I am Maria. Since I started watching back in the day, Craig's a lifelong Cowboys fan. That's your Craig. It sounds like Craig has been Maria since he started watching back in the day. That really changes that sentence. I like it better as a Cowboy fan. Starting to give off some U vibes if we change that sentence. Grammar, Craig. Grammar is important. Justin, what's up? And Josh, what's the lines for this game tonight? What up, Justin? Absolutely. So the Steelers are 12 and a half point underdogs to the Chiefs at home. The Chiefs are at home. Oh man. So the Over Unders, 46 and a half points. So it's a 46 and a half point total. Honestly, I can't take the Steelers here. I hope it's a close game. We deserve a good game in this playoffs. But if I had to predict the score, I'm going to go with Chiefs 31, Steelers 14. Man, I can't take the Steelers either. Like 12 and a half is a really big line. Just the Chiefs have been clicking to end this season, it seems like. I know they have that late season loss, but I'll take the Chiefs as well. And Josh, I like your score. Maybe I'll go 34-13 for the final score. OK, so that would put you, actually, which is interesting, above the Over and me slightly below the Over. So we're both hovering around that Over under, which makes a lot of sense. So if I had to choose, I'd go with the Under, but I don't feel extremely confident about that one, honestly. It's a really good line. Jail, where are you going here? Are you taking the hit plus 12 and a half? No, I wouldn't touch this game. I would never touch this game. Are you kidding me? Yeah, I can't even pick a side. 12 and a half points spread. Oh, my God. And then even the Over Under, it's like the Chiefs could just absolutely go off and carry the total. Yeah, they can score it, but I could also see this being just a very low-scoring game. So I am not going to make predictions on this one. I'm out. Yeah, no, thank you. I'm not saying it. Jay, what about you? Give me Steelers. I think 12 and a half points. I think Big Ben, I don't think they're going to win, but I think 12 and a half points is eight a lot. I think they're just going to let it fly. Juju's back. Who knows if he's going to be able to do anything, but got an extra weapon. Najee was taking off the injury report. So I think they're just going to let it fly with Big Ben. It's probably his last game in the NFL. So open things up. They may be aided by some garbage time at the end. Who knows? But I think they can cover the 12 and a half. Fine. If you twist my nips, I'll take the Chiefs. Sorry. No. Stop asking. Can we make it a little gentleman's gentleman? Make it a gentleman. 3v1.  You're in, Jay? He froze, so that means, yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it. That's a yes. That's a yes. Let's do it. I'm right on the board. When the board. Let's do it. The team's here right on the board. Let's do it. All right. All right. All right. Let's do it. Let's do it. The board means it's for real. Craig and you're saying jail of all people should know I am Maria. Yeah, Jay, come on. I don't know what that means, and it scares me. You haven't picked up on that yet? I'm getting scared. Let's be honest. I'm getting scared. Justin in here wants to know the home stat line prediction. So guys, I went ahead and pulled up some of the player props that we have from the FanDuel Sportsbook just to look what they're thinking. And right now, they've got the over under from the home's passing yard set at 280.5. 280.5. Would you guys be taking the over on that or the under? Josh? 280.5. That's a lot. That's a high over under. And the Steelers have a good defense. Their defense is what could keep them possibly in this game. I mean, it's good over under. If you twisted my arm, you twisted JLs earlier. You did not twist them over. My arms are fine. I'll take you over because I think the Chiefs to win this game, they're impassable a lot. Josh is like, I am not going to say nips on YouTube. Yeah. You cannot force me. You're not twisting my nips. You did it! Jordan, welcome in. He said, sup, Kevin and sup, boys. What up, Jordan? Thank you for acknowledging us. I really appreciate there. Josh, were there any other player props for this game that you found interesting or was a? Oh, no, no. I didn't. I didn't have a. No, you're good. You're good there. Guys, on the other side of this ball. So I was actually surprised by this. They've got Ben Rothesberger at 232.5 on the FanDuel Sportsbook. So, Jay, do you think that's a reasonable line? Would you be taking the over under on that? I know you were the one who was the highest on the Steelers offense today. Let's be clear. This isn't me. I'm not super high on the Steelers offense. Jay, you love me, Ben. It's a lot. Yeah, I do. I can't help it. I'm sorry. No, you know what? That's so tempting because it's so low, but I just I can't trust big Ben's arm. I just I can't put money on it.  I would take the under on that one, I think, but it is close. Before we move on to the games that are going on today or that happened already today, guys, I did want to bring up so Clyde Edwards-A-Layer is officially out for this game, right? We've seen that, that he's not going to be playing. Is that can someone confirm that? I believe I saw that. Yeah, he's out. And then Daryl Williams is expected to play. I know he's listed as a game time decision, but he got three practices in this week. Do you think that hinders this Chief's offense at all or what you've seen from Daryl Williams with Clyde Edwards-A-Layer out? Are you fully confident that it's just going to keep on homing? It makes me more confident in the passing game, if anything, because I think Daryl Williams is a really good receiving back, which, you know, it adds to Patrick Mahone's value. So you asked a question about the runner for Patrick Mahone's. It only makes me the more confident, honestly. Just makes him a little bit more confident. I like CEH, but there's no there hasn't been a difference when he's been added a lot of Daryl Williams has played fine. Derek Gore has come in and played fine. So I think I think the Chiefs are absolutely fine. Yeah, and if if the Chiefs do win this game, then they will be heading to play the Cincinnati Bengals next with how the the seating is going to break down here, I believe, right? The Chiefs and the Bengals will play with the with the no, I could be completely lying there. I don't know. I'm trying to do math quickly and I forgot which number was bigger. So ignore everything about what I just said because I forgot Daryl Williams is expected to play. OK, yeah, I figured. Guys, on does anybody else have anything on this game before? Go ahead, Jane. I would say. And Jimmy G did just get picked.  Like watching them play, they just I counted them out. I counted them out, didn't even consider them as an option to kind of make the the championship game. But they're they're looking pretty good. I think they've got a shot. They've got a tough path, right? If they win this, they got to go through the Packers, but they're looking good out there today. We're going to go ahead and pull up our next game, guys. Our next game. I will say real fast, real fast on that pass game. Looking through the player props, I actually like Najia Harris over 21.5 receiving yards. I think the Steelers are going to do whatever they can do to win this game. And I think they're going to get into their best player's hands. That includes Yante Johnson, but I think they're in a lot of screens. Najia Harris, a lot of throws to him. Over 21.5. I know he's been hovering around that all season, but I truly believe he gets over. Yeah, I'm with you, Josh. Let's go. Also, thank you, Albert. You are 100% right.  So you are 100% correct there, my apologies, guys. This next game, though, we've got the Las Vegas Raiders versus the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals coming out on top 26 to 19 in this one. Yes, yes. And again, Simon, you kind of alluded to it coming into this. But this was the best game we've seen so far in Wild Card Weekend. Hopefully, we got two more games to live up it. There's a game being played right now. I don't want to count that game out of it. It's 23 to 10 right now. Dallas has the ball. So we're not counting that game out of it, but this was a really good game. The Las Vegas Raiders, they came down to the wire. They had the ball. They could have came back and won the game, but it didn't pan out for them. I think Cincinnati looked like the more dominant team throughout, personally. I didn't think the Raiders looked like they really ever stood a chance, even though, look, it could have came down to the last play of the game, right? Man, this whistle gate, you got to consider whistle gate. I know, I know, I know. That was so blown out of proportion, man. Like, that whistle didn't have any effect on the play. How I feel about it is, technically, the right call would have been for them to blow the play dead after they blew the whistle. But that would have impeded the flow of the game so much more than the wrong call that they did make, right? Like, it would have messed with the outcome of the game more than them just letting that play stand. Yeah, if you're not aware of what we're talking about, there was a play in this game where it was a touchdown pass to Tyler Boyd and a referee erroneously blew the whistle before the ball had reached Tyler Boyd. But they let it stand as a touchdown, which is technically against the rules. But controversial nonetheless. Very controversial. Very controversial. Very controversial. Someone else say it. Very controversial. It was controversial, I heard that. It was controversial. Anyway, anyway, the Bengals won. They're moving on in the playoffs. The Raiders lost. They're out of there. They're going home. But at least they get to go to Vegas, right, guys? Anyway, from a fantasy perspective, Gary Carr, he has one-year left-ones contract. Let's not get into fantasy actually quite yet. I know they're discussing bringing him back on a new contract, right? He's still signed through next year, but the new coach is really going to determine what this looks like. Do you guys think Derek Carr is the future or can be the future for the Raiders still? Let's say the next five years. Is Derek Carr the quarterback for the Raiders? Jay, I want to ask you first. I think he should be. I think he's proven that he's a great leader, you know, all the different things. I won't go through the list, but to say the Raiders have been through the ringer this year with off-the-field issues would be an understatement. And they still made the playoffs. He's got the respect to the locker room, but where there's smoke, there's fire. And I just think there's been too much talk of him moving on. So I do think that he will wind up somewhere else. And I've got no rhyme or reason to say this, but I've got this weird feeling he's going to wind up the quarterback of the New York Giants next season. I've got this gut feeling that that's going to happen. Yeah, that's called PTSD, I think. Let's say that happens, Jay. How does that make you feel as a Giants fan? I prefer him over a guy like Russ, because I don't think it's going to cost as much in draft capital to get him. And we're not a year or two away. We're multiple years away. And I think he's got plenty of football left in him. So it's not the route I necessarily want to go, but I would be OK with it. It can't be worse than Daniel Jones. Yeah, and this isn't really known as a quarterback-loaded draft class either. So it's not like you're really, you can't completely believe that someone's going to be able to take over the franchise in this draft class. But yeah, I agree. Derek Carr is probably better than Daniel Jones. What about you, Simon? Do you think Derek Carr is the quarterback for the Raiders in four years? Let's say four years. Four years is a long time. A lot can happen, but I think they give him another contract. Like that's Rylan. I'm not going to say he's the quarterback of the four years. Shit can go down. He could retire like you never know. But I think he will get that next contract with the Raiders. I tend to go the path of least resistance. He's done well. They made the playoffs in a year that probably they shouldn't have given all of the off-the-field issues that Jay mentioned. This was a really tricky season for them to navigate. And they still made it into the playoffs with a big win to end the season, right? Yeah. I think Derek Carr is at least the near future for this Raiders franchise. Quarterbacks are hard to come by. They are. And one of Derek Carr's caliber is not something you can just find. You can just go, OK, we'll get one better than Derek Carr. There's 10 teams in the NFL with worse quarterbacks than him. It would just be shocking to me to see them move on. Yeah, I agree. I definitely think he's at least an above average NFL quarterback, right? Yeah. Right, Jail? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would say above average. I wouldn't have said that before this season. Really? I think he showed a lot. Yeah. No, I've been historically down on Derek Carr. I think that most likely they have secured a top 24 pick in this year's draft. Like you said, it's not a quarterback heavy draft. I think the most likely outcome is that they stick with him for a year, see how he does under whoever the new head coach is, and then reevaluate them. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a very likely possibility, I agree with you. Oh, what if he goes to the Saints? Weirdly makes sense. It does. I don't know why. I kind of think James Winston's their guy. They play well with James Winston. As long as they can play really good defense and they have Sean Payton who's very creative on offense. They were winning with James Winston. Yeah. But why can't you put your Derek Carr in a Saints jersey so easily? Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. Like sometimes I can't picture it, but I just see it. I see him on the field running that offense right now. I've got this weird feeling. This is all random, but James goes to the Steelers. That's my offseason prediction. Please do it. Do it. Maria said, we all know Simon likes Derek Carr. Yes, he does. Yeah, you said he was the most handsome guy in the NFL at one point. Oh, he is very handsome. That is a very handsome man. I don't think he's the most handsome guy in Waller. Darren Waller is way more handsome than Raiders. He's like people in black. The jerseys are sweet. Yeah, the jerseys is what it is. It's just people wearing the jerseys. I was like, wow, so handsome. Hey, I have never said Hunter Ranford is one of the most handsome guys in the NFL, and I will not. He's just a normal guy. He plays Legos. Yeah, I was going to say, he plays Legos. Anyway, so it seems like we all agree, Derek Carr is a valuable quarterback to have on your NFL team. Now, let's move on to Josh Jacobs here. He had 13 carries, 83 yards. He caught four catches, and he's been more and more involved in the receiving game. It's great to see because this is what we've wanted to see from him since he's been drafted. He's been in the NFL for three years now. The last three years, his rookie year, he was the 21st highest scoring running back into PPR League. He was the eighth highest scoring running back last year in 2020. And this previous season, 2021 season, he was the 11th highest scoring PPR running back. Is this guy, he seems undervalued to me at this point. I think Josh Jacobs is undervalued, guys. What do you think? I think the reason is because he doesn't have that top three ceiling. You know what I mean? Like, I think when people are drafting this first round backs, a guy to be their RB one, they want someone with that, like, could finish as the top three guy overall. And Jacobs probably isn't that. He's going to be a back-end RB one most likely to finish the year. He's had some higher finishes, like you mentioned, but I feel like the perceived ceiling isn't there. But I agree with you. He's undervalued in redraft formats for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So he was drafted. I was going to check. Yeah, let's play a game. Before we do, he's being drafted as the RB 18, by the way. RB 18. He's being drafted currently in, like, dynasty leagues as the RB 18. No, coming into the season and redraft RB 18. Gotcha. Yeah. You think he could trap to above that next year? I think he should. I think he belongs slightly higher. I would put him probably in the 13 to 15 range. Yeah, you're probably right. I had to double and triple check. But the numbers say that Josh Jacobs had 54 catches this year. I did not realize he had that many catches. Those are David Montgomery numbers. That's the fifth overall. He dipped in 348 reception yards. He didn't catch a touchdown, but 54 catches. That's a significant number. Kenyan Drake went down with an injury. He had over 30 catches. So I would love to see. And he is going to be back, too. So that's the only thing is Drake will take some of the receiving work away. But you know what? Honestly, before I looked that up, Josh, I was going to say he's not. But that's a lot. I mean, the only players that had more were DeAndre Swift, Leonard Fournette, Najee Harris, and Austin Eckler. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm with you. I got to say, I do think Josh Jacobs is a little underrated going in next year. Well, how about this? In a dynasty league, would you rather have Josh Jacobs or Clyde Edwards or Lair? Jacob. I feel a lot safer. I think the ceiling for Edwards or Lair in that offense is probably a little bit higher. But I feel so much safer with what we're going to get from Jacobs. Edwards or Lair is replaceable. We saw it this year. And so I'm going to go. I'm going to go Jacobs here. May go Jacobs as well, guys. I'll go CEH. It's very close, though. Yeah, that's a good one, though, Josh. That was a that was a good name. I got I got I got two other names, two other. OK, Travis E.T.N. or Josh Jacobs. Well, you don't have to ask J.L. You already know what he's going to say. No, he's made a kind of grumpy face. I'm going to go with Josh Jacobs myself just because of the unknown factor with Travis E.T.N. Yes, we had he has some years on him, but these are proven years. It's only three years with Josh Jacobs. And he hasn't been worked like a workhorse running back yet either, which is, I think, great for his durability and his, you know, outlook going forward in a dynasty league. So if we had I wish we had seen something from Travis E.T.N. This year, James Robinson looking like a stud again this year on a really bad offense has made this a hard decision. Right. I was in the camp. It was Achilles, though. Did there's Achilles, so. Man, I'll go E.T.N. still. But it's it's very close. I'll go E.T.N. I'll go E.T.N. as well.  I'm going to go Jacobs. I'm thinking if I have Jacobs and somebody offered me E.T.N. straight up, I would have a really, really hard time because of the unknown. I do. I definitely agree that E.T.N. has the much higher ceiling. But, you know, give me Jacobs and Craig saying Josh taking Josh after bashing Josh's weekly picks. What a rise. I love the guy. Um, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right, Craig. One more name, though. One more name. Last name, J.K. Dobbins. That's his full name, not just his last name. For me, this is where I switched to the other side, and I'm going to take J.K. Dobbins. It's Dobbins for me as well. Yeah, Dobbins. All right. All right. So there it is. There it is. There it is. That one is that one is tough right there. And I was looking up guys because I was just curious, especially whenever you said Keny and Drake went down with an injury and Josh Jacobs had more receptions than we thought he was going to have. And I said David Montgomery kind of joking, but it really reminded me of last season with David Montgomery. Whenever Tariq Cohen went down with the injury, all of a sudden he steps in this past catching world. Do you know how many receptions Montgomery had last season? The exact same number. Exactly the exact same number of receptions. Nailed it. Knew it. Like I wanted to say it, too. Enthusiasm, you said it.  It's either the same number or like one off. Do you know how many he had this year? Even with missing some time, right? He missed some time. Other players were healthy coming back in and showed he had that skill set. But it was only it was 42. It was still a large number of receptions for a running back. He still had 42 receptions. Maybe Josh Jacobs showed this coaching staff like, hey, look what I can do in the receiving game. You guys haven't been using me this well like this. Look what I can do. Look what I can do. And they're obviously not married to Keny and Drake in that back field. I have a feeling we're going to see an uptake in receptions. Maybe not as many as this year, but the previous two years for Josh Jacobs next year, I think this might be here to stay. Yeah, I love it. I love it. Darren Waller played this game. He had 12 targets, seven catches, 76 yards. You love to see Darren Waller back in the lineup. Now, Darren Waller right now is 29 years old. But I would say he's fresher than a lot of other players because he didn't play a lot earlier in his career. I have one question for you. Straight up. Darren Waller or Dallas Goddard in a dynasty start-up draft. You're in a dynasty start-up draft right now. You've got to make this decision. Simon Waller. It's Waller. Yeah, it's Waller. J.L. Waller. It's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Different for me is the offense that he's in. The Eagles are run first, run second, run third offense. So you just you can't trust the volume while he's probably the, you know, here towards the end of the season, you saw it today, too. He was he was J.L. and her to go, too. But you just you just can't trust the volume. Yeah. And if with Zachar, it's leaving this team. I kind of really, really hope to see Dallas Goddard catapult himself up into that upper echelon of tight ends this season. And I didn't see it. Like, had he done a little bit more, maybe I would have said him over Waller because the age is better. You're right. Everything on paper looks like it should be should be Dallas Goddard in a dynasty league. But while I still got at least two, three years left in my eyes of elite levels of production, I'm going to go there and waller. It's man, I wish I could say Goddard here, though. I have a feeling, too, that Goddard's going to be drafted as ceiling. And while it's going to be drafted at his floor going in the next season, you know, people, you know, they hold grudges against guys who disappointment fantasy. And while disappointed, a lot of people this year, there's going to be so much hype around Goddard. So just just got to be careful where you're taking these guys. So what's up, Bam? Welcome and glad to have you here. And Jay, on that note, I think something people need to look at whenever they're looking at Waller season. So if you went down injured, look at the success Hunter Renfrow had with the volume he received in that offense, right? And a lot of that was with Waller out. Now he's been good, even with Waller back in as well. But I'm I'm saying a lot of that production, a lot of that volume is going to go back to Waller whenever they're both on the field. And he'll he'll step right back into what we used to see him do. I got a question for you guys. This is a scene in how Renfrow played with Waller back in. You think Renfrow is an offseason cell, huh? I mean, he's still at eight catches. So I'm I'm not sure, but I'm just saying it. He's still at eight catches, Jay. Well, you know, Hunter Renfrow as a top 20 wide receiver. What would he finished? What do you finish this year? Top it was a 11th in PPR over wide receivers. You can sell him as a top 20 dynasty wide receiver. I'm selling, you know, I'm selling. Hunter Renfrow finished as a wide receiver one. That is awesome. That's incredible. I'm with you, though, Josh, if you can get top 20 value. But if you're getting less than that, I'm not trading. You don't have to trade him. Don't give him away. No, no, yeah. But it's worth noting, too, that the the whole dare car conversation that we had earlier in this in the stream. That's a good place here, right? Like that connection might not be the same if it's a different quarterback. Yeah. In fact, it will be very different. Though I feel like Hunter Renfrow is the kind of player that is like a new quarterback in the new systems best. He runs clean, quick, crisp routes. You know where he's going to be. You know what I mean? Like that that's the kind of player that is a quarterback's best friend as they're learning a system. But I agree with you, if the quarterback is Kenny Pickett, he comes in struggling as a rookie, it doesn't doesn't matter. So yeah, and let's throw Hunter Renfrow in the Giants. Like you're going to have some issues. Yeah. No offense, Jay. Love you. But you're trying to. It's the truth though. You don't have to tell me, trust me. Jay, what was the trivia question that you wrote for our show the other day that who had more what was higher? Cooper Cup receiving touchdowns or Giants passing touchdowns? Passing touchdown and Cooper Cup had more receiving touchdowns. Not a single Giants receiver had more than 50 catches. Yeah, it's Albert did have a question for us. He said Knox or Goddard in dynasty? Goddard. Goddard, Josh, what about you? I'll still go with Goddard. I'm as high as anyone on Knox. Maybe they're in the same tier, but I'm going Goddard here. Jay, that is tough. Coming into the season, you would have never thought it would have been, but I still have to lean Goddard. I think he's got got more talent. Man, but you got to look at situation too, right? It's pretty rough situation for Goddard and dynasty and Knox. That's about as good of a situation. I think as it can get being a part of that bill's offense. I'll I'll take Knox, but it's very close. I'll take Knox. I think there's talk that that Buffalo could go out and add an additional a secondary option. You know, right now, Knox is the number two. But number two passcatcher for this offense. So if they add a, you know, a talented wide receiver, possession wide receiver to go on the other side of Stefan Diggs, then you have to Knox his value down a little bit. Oh, I'm too bad. Boo. Yeah, yeah, I'm out of there. He's doing he's doing this down in the lobby. Yeah. All right. Well, let's let's move over to the bangleside of the ball. Joe Burrow, he was impressive. You know, he just did everything he needed to do to win this game. And he did it with so much swagger. Like the most. Joe Burrow, I'm pretty I'm pretty sold. I'm pretty bought into Joe Burrow. Paired with Jamar Chase and T Higgins for the foreseeable future. Here's a fun question, though, guys, going in next season, just next season, we're talking about quarterbacks you would draft. Would you draft Joe Burrow or Justin Herbert at Herbert? I knew you were going to ask that question. I knew it was a great question. Like, it's a great question. Yeah, it is a fantastic question. Yeah, it's a great question. Herbert, personally, I think maybe he's a little bit more. I'm not going to say talented, but he's shown me more on the field, personally, but Joe Burrow, I think, has a little bit better surrounding cast, maybe. But who's to say? I mean, Herbert's got weapons, too. You know, Mike Williams. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like my creation, though. Mike Williams might not be back. That's true. That is true. I'll go on. I'll go for the girl. I'm all in on Burrow. I am not saying to go with. Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert. And I'm going to bring up a stat that I brought up on the show earlier this week. There are only two quarterbacks in the NFL that threw the ball 30 or more times a game, every game this season. And that was Justin Herbert and Tom Brady. So I think that's how this offense wants to run through Herbert exclusively. And Austin Eck was a part of that game plan, right? He's one of the best pass-catching backs in the NFL, a quarterback's best friend. I just, man, Joe Burrow's excellent, but I got to go Herbert. Joe Burrow's probably one person that hasn't answered, Joe. It is me. And I'm going to go for it. It's Burrow for me. Did we have two Herbert's and two Burrow's here? Two Herbert's, two Burrow's. That just shows how close it is. Well, kind of, Joe, what do you want to be on the board all year? It's like whoever gets back to you. So here's the question for you. Who do you think will be drafted higher going in the drafts next year? Now, that's a great question. Are you staying with your with your choices here? I do think Herbert will be drafted higher. OK, I don't know, Burrow's. If he keeps playing this well, I mean, well throughout the playoffs, they make it to the AFC championship, then, you know, like you said, that hype definitely is a good plan bleeds into the next season. So I think you hit the nail right on the head. I think that's the correct answer. If they have a nice little playoff run here, that's going to be fresh in everyone's minds. Joey B is going to be hyped through the planet. That's a that's a great point, J. Yeah, yeah, Jordan in here, taking Justin Herbert, unless he's just saying Justin in the chat for no reason. But I assume this is just to her. This Cowboys 49ers game, it is getting real right now. It's 2317, a minute and 56 seconds left. Cowboys have the ball on the 20, I think. Cuckoo could chew we. Oh, man. All right. All right. I love football. Don't we all don't we all? We beat this horse to death. Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson. Well, I didn't win wide receiver two yet.   Not yet. Not yet. Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, wide receiver one, wide receiver two. Dynasty, right? They're not here. They're out at this point. Maybe CDLM in that year. I was going to say, I think CDLM would possibly belong in that year as well. I don't know. Just real quick. Who are you putting? Who are you putting number one? Just just do it. Just do. Justin Jefferson and and there's the primary reason being there are two dynasty wide receiver ones on the Bengals offense. T Higgins, I also have as a top 12 dynasty wide receiver along with Jamar Chase. So there's just a little bit more competition over there. Justin Jefferson, it's him and Adam Thielen. So I'm going to go Jefferson. Talent's comparable, but the Jefferson just edges them out barely. I'm going to chase. I'm going chase. I think a bit a little contrarian tonight, but I just we don't know where the quarterback is going to be next year. You know, there's talks. Kurt Cousins could be out the door, although, yes, there is competition with T Higgins. What? That excitement because of the door. It's pretty cold in Minnesota. It's pretty cold in Minnesota. So I don't remember just that pictures of all this. But, you know, T Higgins being on the other side, I think it's a positive.  KJ Osborne is OK.  You know, Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase have that connection since college. You know, it's obvious on the field. So it's I mean, it's splitting hairs. I would be perfectly fine with either one of these guys. But those little things just give Jamar Chase the nod for me.  Oh, pardon my language. I don't care at all if every if they're double triple teaming them on every play, they're going to get the production. Like these are the kinds of players that the quarterbacks will trust to throw the ball to and double coverage and they're going to go up and make a play. So for me, it really is just a volume thing. I don't care if Justin Jefferson is the focal point for opposing defense is he's good enough to overcome that. And without T Higgins on the other side, I think he's going to get more targets. So that's that's it. But I get what you're saying, Jay. I just I put these guys to tear up in talent level like where DeAndre Hopkins, we never said like, Oh, well, he's going to get double teamed every play because it didn't matter. He was getting every target and he was good enough to to beat double coverage. I will say one thing, Justin Jefferson is my choice, but I really hope her cousin stays with me. I hope they don't try to experiment with something. He doesn't have to go outside. And I want to put Jamar Chase one just so we're clear, like every fiber of my being wants him at one. I love watching that dude play. So so this is my last question about this game. It involves Joe Mixon and it's just against one other guy. His Joe Mixon in Dynasty versus Dalvin Cook. Who would you draft in a dynasty startup first? Would you draft Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook? And I'm going to come to Simon first. Who will that be on the spot? That's a tough one that you just gave me, Josh. I'll tell you what I would do. I'm drafting Joe Mixon. I'm just trying to man, I feel like with the way this Bengals offense look this year, like the main thing holding Joe Mixon's value back was the low value offense that he was in. Right? I'm I think I'd go Joe Mixon. I love this Cincinnati offense now. It's it's humming. It looks so fantastic. Jail's making a shocked face. Like the Cowboys just scored or something worth an 11. Dak on a gamble through it and to Cedric Wilson, like 30 or 40 yards, Cedric Wilson tripped up and did not get it. Oh, no. But was he open? Like, was it going to be a sort of open like he was? If he had kept his footing, he would have been open. He would have had a shot. He wasn't wide open. There was a defender there. I going into this game, I took 49ers plus three. Nice. That's worth. And my work just work out for you, Josh. That might just work out for you. Let's go. I'll go Joe Mixon. Jay, give me. I'm Joe. You know me, Josh, me and you. Yeah, Joe Mixon. You love us as Joe Mixon. We love us as Joe Mixon. Jail, are you on the other side? I'm going down and cook here. I'm going down and cook. I do love Joe Mixon, have loved Joe Mixon, but I'm still going to go down and cook. He's only a year older than Joe Mixon. He just. Fair enough, fair enough. I thought we had one person. I prefer olders. Don't call them olders. I prefer olders. Please never. Please never say that again. I prefer olders.   Don't you dare say it, Simon. Jay is our resident older. All right, I'm out of here. We'll see you guys later. So that's pretty much everything on this game. Pretty much everything. And guys, like we said before, that was our closest game of the week. And until right now, but up next, this next game that happened yesterday is not nearly as close. I told you don't count it out. The first one was the bills taking down the New England Patriots 47-17. And honestly, this score is not even showing how much of a blowout this was. Like this, like this is not representative. This looks closer than the game actually was. It was great. Big summer blowout. Big summer blowout, except it's the winter. Summer somewhere. Sorry, sorry. The frozen got me. Before we get started, you know, Devin Singletary, dynasty, why was he the one? We're talking about Devin Singletary. Don't you worry about it. Well, bills came into the game as a four and a half point favorites and needless to say, they covered that pretty easy. Over under was 35 and a half. The bills covered that pretty easy by themselves as well. There's no doubt the bills exercise 20 years of demons last night as our buddy Jeff Bell, like I said, congratulations to him. The bills just went off. The line for the player props for Josh Allen was over under one and a half touchdowns. Yeah, he had that in the first quarter. That was pretty easy for him. 300 yards, five touchdowns, no interceptions. This was the first time in NFL history that a team did not have a turnover and did not have a punt. And I think there was one other factor to that and I can't remember exactly, but no punts, no turnovers, a pretty much perfect game. Every time they had the ball, they scored a touchdown. I mean, Josh Allen had like four incompletions or something like that. Eight incompletions. 20 more completions, five touchdowns? What? 300 yards on 21 completions. Like that's... God. The only thing... QBR 157.6, it was a... The only thing that could stop them from scoring was the half ending or the game ending. Like that was it. Time, time, time. Father time. Mercy rule. Mercy rule. Father time. So fun to feed in. Love of God. So let me ask you guys this. Is Josh Allen the quarterback one in fantasy in all formats? No. I don't know. I mean, you can talk about it. It's not one game. It's the QB1 computer game. I'm saying after that one game, I'm not changing your mind. Yeah, two years in a row. It's the second year in a row that he's finished as the QB1.  Listen, but I made a trade in dynasty last season, not this season, but the previous season. I traded Patrick Mahomes for Josh Allen plus a package, and I got a lot of heat for it. And now I'm pretty freaking happy about it. So like, but Patrick Mahomes is still my quarterback one in dynasty. Having said that, Josh Allen's number two. Josh, I think looking back the best trade I've ever made in dynasty, it's a one QB league, but I needed a quarterback desperately. And at the time I was upset about it, but I traded Cortland Allen, or Cortland Sutton. Famous podcaster, Cortland Allen. That I mix up every time. Go check out Andy Hackers, if you haven't. It's a great podcast. Cortland Allen is the host. But yeah, nothing to do with football, but I traded Cortland Sutton for Josh Allen straight up in a one quarterback. Wow, that's pretty intense. It's worked out pretty well since then. But to answer your question, Jake, I don't think I currently have him as my QB one overall, but he's in the conversation. He has to be. Like you said, he finished not just this year, but you guys filled in the blanks last year, as well as the number one quarterback overall. How can you not at least say he deserves to be talked about there? But it's top heavy. There's a couple of guys I think you could all talk about being in that number one spot. Lamar Jackson, Kylin Murray, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. Like I wouldn't fault anyone for having any of those guys number one. Justin Herbert, yeah. I think you could put him in that conversation as well, for sure. Yeah, and that's why I, you know. I was gonna say, apparently Joe Burrow, if some of you guys are taking Burrow over Herbert as well. Yeah, and that's why I think you really have to look at things, you know. I would have Josh Allen as QB one, but it's splitting hairs, just like we were talking about with Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase. I think you really, you have to look at these things more of tiers versus, you know, ranking players, you know, one through whatever, because you're gonna be much better off in the long term. You're looking at tiers or globs, as we like to say on here, you know, versus worrying about, oh, well, this guy's number one, this guy's number one. So, you know, he's right up there. Can we all agree that Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes are in the same tier? Yeah, absolutely, they're in the same tier. Okay. Would you throw Kyler in that tier too? I would not. For Dynasty? I would. I would not. I would. They're rushing. Josh, would you? No, no. You just, you just named a tier, you just named, that's a tier for me and Dynasty, Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. That's fair. I still play them. And then there's a glob for me. And then it's Zach Wilson. And then it goes down. For Josh. Then it's Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Dak Prescott, Kyler Murray, and Justin Herbert. And Justin Herbert's the closest one that's getting in there. Okay. To the top one for me. No Kyler, Lamar getting close up there. Oh, Devin Singletary. Not at the moment. Yeah, not at the moment. Well, Devin Singletary continued his strong play, 81 yards, 16 rushes, and he scored two touchdowns. He's somebody, you know, he helped a lot of people win fantasy championships, myself included. He really turned it on once they decided to make him the guy. Zack Moss had one carry in this game. I don't even know if Perrito was active. So Devin Singletary going in the next year. You know, if they're committed to him being the guy, I think he's somebody it could be, as I like to say, a rock solid running back to, if they're committed to giving him the ball. There's a, I was reading an article that they said that towards the end of the season, the bills decided to start using a six offensive lineman a lot more, and that's helped with the running game. And that's what seemed to have locked Devin Singletary. So what do you guys think running back to going in the next season for Devin Singletary? No. And I'm high on Devin Singletary. I think that they are going to give the workload to Devin Singletary. But when we're looking at the top running backs, once they're all healthy, that's another thing you have to consider. Right now he has a running back to, because there's a lot of people not playing right now, including like J.H. Dobbins, Kanmakers, Travis ETN, you know, Derek Henry, just guys like this that are, we're going to have above Devin Singletary when it comes down to Leonard Fornette. I mean, so he's not, I mean, because like going to next year, Elijah Mitchell, right? I'm taking over Devin Singletary at the moment. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So I have a health card. Oh, absolutely. And I'm not saying like a high end RB2, a more of a middle to back end RB2. But like the funny thing is, he'll probably end up as a running back to at the end of the year, right? You know? I just don't know if he has that upside with Josh Allen being a goal line running back himself of sorts, taking away yards. I like Devin Singletary. He's probably still going to be of value even though everything I'm saying. And I have a hard time believing that the bills are fully committed to Singletary in this backfield. Like this is one of the teams where I'm watching in the off season. If the backfield stays in the general shape that it is now with the players that they have. And yeah, Devin Singletary is probably in that back end RB2, high end RB3 range, but there's they could draft a guy that could get a guy in free agency. It doesn't seem like kind of back that they're committing to or building around or not going to add another piece to their backfield because they have him. So I'm watching the roster of this bills team. I'm watching the moves they make and that's going to change Devin Singletary's value for me by a lot probably. Could we play like a little name game here? With Devin Singletary? I was just about to. So Jay's got one. He's got some loaded up. Yeah. Would you guys rather have Damien Harris? Yeah, yeah, I got a couple. We'll switch off here. Damien Harris or Devin Singletary next year? That's a good question. I'll take Harris, but it's close. Singletary for me. I take Harris. Jay, I'm going to go Harris. I like Harris a lot. Josh, you're the one who got me on the Harris. I love Damien Harris. I think I'm more worried about Remandry Stevenson taking carries and yards and receptions away than I am Zach Moss at this point. I think I do think Devin Singletary is the guy, to be honest. Yeah, you got one. Oh, yeah, I got a couple. Chase Evans or Devin Singletary. For next season? Just for next season. I'll take Singletary. Just next season. Oh, assuming James Connors there, it's definitely Devin Singletary. That's what I was my thought process as well, Joshua. Well, Michael Carter, Devin Singletary. Devin Singletary. Simon. I'm going to go Michael Carter. What we saw from him this year, those flashes were just unreal in the games review as heavily targeted, showed that skill set. I've seen enough of the upside there that I'm going to take the slightly riskier player next season for the potential payoff. I think the upside is higher with Carter. But, yeah, the downside, we saw it as well before he got injured. It's not pretty in that Jets offense sometimes. How about you, Jay? Yeah, Simon pretty much said exactly how I think of it as well. Singletary is a safer pick. Michael Carter has the higher upside. Give me Michael Carter ever so slightly. I got one that... I'm with you, Josh. I would go Singletary because of the offense. I think that I would rather have the running back attached the more high-powered offense here. That's fair. Now, you asked me a dynasty question there. It gets a little bit tougher. But for next season, Devon Singletary. Jail, I have one that you're going to like here. Rashad Penney or Devon Singletary? Oh. Dynasty or next season? Rashad Penney's contracts up, I believe. So are we assuming that he's signing back? Let's say that, yeah. Let's say... And Russ is there? Because that's another factor, right? So Russ is there, Rashad's Penney's there. Devon Singletary. Give me Devon Singletary because of that uncertainty. Yeah. It is Devon Singletary. Did you say uncertain, Terry? I almost did. I may have, honestly. I can't say whether I did or not did not. Oh, good. Yeah, I'm going Singletary to him. Man, that is a good one though. I'm just like with all of the disappointment Rashad Penney has caused, I'm fully expecting him to sign with a new team where it looks like he's going to be the lead back and everyone gets fully bought in. And then he's like the lead back for the first drive and then never again for the rest. Simons have no idea the internal... The Mike Davis of this year. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And even worse because Mike Davis at least had a season. Like he had a full season where he was good. This is like a few games and it's like, oh, God. Mike Davis had like six games where he was real good. Yeah, I'm just like, I just see that happening. It seems like that's the only reasonable outcome for Rashad Penney going for. I can't fully buy back in because of all the pain. I'm like too afraid of being hurt again. I'm just expecting for the floor to fall out beneath me. Do you have any idea how many times I bought back into Josh Gordon? Every time. Every time. Every single time. He never went back into the league and I didn't pick him up in a fantasy league. Like not once. It's been 100% of the time and he's done it every time. So Jay, let's just commit. He's holding your dynasty rosters right now. How many rosters do you have Josh Gordon on right now, Simon? Honestly, not too many. It's like two that I have Josh Gordon on right now. Well, that's too, too many. Let's be honest. I haven't got a good point. All right. So looking at the receivers for the Bills, Dawson Knox, like we were talking about earlier, I won't dive too much into him because we discussed it earlier, but led the team in targets, five catches, five targets, two touchdowns. I had a great game. Stefan Diggs and Devon Singletary. That's the other thing with Singletary too. Getting a little action in the passing game. It wasn't a lot of yards, but three catches and 13 yards. That's an extra four points. That's almost a touchdown in fantasy scoring. So that makes a difference. Gabe Davis, three targets. Emmanuel Sanders, three targets. Both pretty much had the same type of line. Not really a lot to talk about when it comes to the receivers. So unless you guys have anything, I'm going to jump to the New England side of the ball. The one thing I do want to say is Stefan Diggs started the year kind of quietly compared to like what people were expecting. And I feel like that narrative, that kind of storyline around it being sort of a down year for Stefan Diggs never really left. There's been this kind of like cloud over the season. Yet he finished the year on fire, finishes the wide receiver seven overall. It just seems like people aren't valuing him as high as they should. That's a player I'm curious to see where his ADP is going to end up going into redraft next season. Because he might be a value. He's one of these guys that has the top three overall wide receiver upside, tied to Josh Allen, had a slow start to the season and then showed up finishing as the wide receiver seven. This is a guy you might be able to grab after some a little bit later than you should be able to in drafts next year. I'm with you, Simon. And that's kind of what scares me going into next year with Cooper Cup. You know, I think the problem, I think the reason that people were disappointed in Stefan Diggs because he was drafted as a ceiling. You know, the reason he was so valuable last year was because he was drafted as a wide receiver two rounds, four, five, six, something along those lines. That's why Cooper Cup was so valuable. Not only he was the wide receiver one, but you didn't have to pay that price tag for him in drafts. So that's what Josh, I know you said that you would take him as the first wide receiver off the board. Can't argue with that, but that's the type of thing that scares me. You're drafting Cooper Cup at his ceiling. People drafted Stefan Diggs at his ceiling this year.  It's all about value. When you draft players at their ceiling, that's when you'll make a play. Yeah, you want to go, bro? You want to go? Let's go. Stefan Diggs has never had a season like Cooper Cup just had. It's not even close, really, when it comes down to it. Cooper Cup had the best fantasy wide receiver season I think we've ever seen. And I don't think I am being that crazy saying that. It's not hyperbolic. Yeah, it's not, yeah. But I think just for me, I love Cooper Cup. He helped bring me a couple of championships, but I'm just worried that because of that, his ADP is going to be just too high for me. I think what you're saying stands regardless of if Cooper Cup repeats. Yeah, it repeats. Even if he repeats next year, he's still being drafted at his ceiling, right? So it's not that value. You're still going to be happy he's on your team, but the point you're making is the value helps, like your reaction to their season is highly dependent on what kind of value they were in the drafts, whether you spent that early first or the fourth. I'm not saying don't draft Cooper Cup. That's not what I'm saying. Jay hates Cooper Cup. Jay thinks Cooper Cup is poop. Jay doesn't even use cups. He drinks out of his hands because he hates him so much. That's why I call him Cooper Cup. Do you think he is the wide receiver one going in the next season? No. Yes. Cooper Cup, yeah, I would put him at wide receiver one. It's the same team, same quarterback, same connection with Matthew Stafford. He did it consistently through the entire year. It wasn't like an insane five-game stretch then all of a sudden he fell off. I don't see how I can move him below my top wide receiver in redraft for next season. I'm drafting running backs over top of them going in the next season. So he's not going to be my number one overall player. Right. Yeah. Right. Well, just wide receiver. He's my... Well, he's definitely... That's fair. I can't see it. I can't see it. Not being. Okay. Is he? Maybe? Yeah. I... No, I'm thinking to do one of the thoughts. Yeah, the only guy I would consider is if Aaron Rodgers goes back to Green Bay, it would be really hard for me to take Cooper Cup over Devonte Adams, even with the season that Cup had. That's the only guy that would even be in the conversation for me. That's the only guy I could consider as well. Devonte Adams with Aaron Rodgers. And even then, I'm still taking Cooper Cup. Yeah. Before we move on from the Bill's Paths Catchers, there was one more thing I wanted to say. We all know the Patriots' MO, they shut down your top weapon, right? So they were focused on Stefan Diggs in this game, did a fairly good job of shutting them down. But what was really encouraging for me was seeing, Jay, you mentioned it earlier, or maybe it was Josh, you mentioned it. That second read, that player that they went to once Stefan Diggs was shut down, wasn't available, was Dawson Knox in this game. He was the player that Josh Allen looked to. And that was a good sign because they have other receivers on this team, and they were involved as Amy Kinsey, Emmanuel Sanders, Gabriel Davis, Cole Beasley. These were players that were involved, but I liked that Knox was the next guy up, that he was the one that Josh Allen was looking to, especially in the end zone. It made me, that kind of presence from him, whenever Stefan Diggs wasn't producing that super high level, was really encouraging for Dawson Knox value going forward for me. Shout out to Gabriel Davis. Shout out to Gabriel Davis in a dynasty context. You're probably not going to drop into May league's redraft, but I could see him taking the third year wide receiver step next year and becoming a legitimate part of this offer. Was he undrafted? Looking it up right now. Oh, and the NFL draft? No, no, no, no, no, no. He was a fourth round pick, I want to say. Fourth round, okay. Yep. The 128th pick overall in the 2020 NFL draft, Gabriel Davis. Good pull, Josh. Good pull. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. So he's a big guy. I like Gabriel Davis. Yeah. How do you do? And Emmanuel Sanders only signed a one-year deal with the bill. So Emmanuel Sanders. Emmanuel Sanders. Yeah, Emmanuel Sanders. He's an older. He's an older. He's an older. Guys, on the New England side, I love this ball. He's back. Yeah. They're new inside of the ball. First of all, we talked about Damian Harris. We did talk about Damian Harris. Jay, we were leading into the New England side of the ball if you want to jump back in right there. We talked about Damian Harris versus Yep. Just compare their stats lines this game. I know this game's correct, but just do it real fast. Look at Remandre Stevenson there, too. You know what I'm saying? Yep. Yeah. I was just about to bring that up before I froze up there. Damian Harris, like you said, Damian Harris, nine rushes. Remandre Stevenson, the Rhino, eight rushes. Both not too great. Yardsburg area, 3.3 for Harris, 3.4 for Stevenson. Neither could get really much. This whole Patriots offense just could not really get anything started. The Bills were just absolutely dominant on both sides of the ball. Absolutely. They just were phenomenal. And hold on, I just have to clap for the Cowboys. Another early exit from the playoffs from the Cowboys. You bitter, bitter Giants, man. Hey, that's all I've got right now. Okay, that's all I've had for a long time. The Giants have been so terrible. The Cowboys losing is the only thing I have. I just like that. I got 49ers with three points, to be honest. Thank you. That's all I've got. You did it, Josh. With that being said, Remandre Stevenson did also get the catches. Remandre Stevenson had four targets, four catches, 33 yards. Damian Harris only had one target. So, Josh, I think your hesitation on Harris is definitely justified. I'm normally one of those that completely stays away from the New England backfield because they are, as we all know, they're always the committee. They play the match up. Bill Belichick is the guy who you can never know which running back is going to produce. But honestly, going in the next season, I like both Harris and Stevenson. I think they can both be serviceable players. I would rather have them more along the lines of flex plays versus running back twos. But if both guys are available, who are you taking first? Damian Harris or Remandre Stevenson? Josh, we'll go with you. Definitely Damian Harris. No doubt about it. Remandre Stevenson still has a lot to prove. Damian Harris. I just look at the finishes this year. I know Remandre Stevenson is rookie. He could still grow up with Damian Harris. Eighth in Standard Leagues. Fourteenth high score in running back to PPR Leagues. Remandre Stevenson not even close. So, Damian Harris is still the guy for them going into next season. But they're going to eat into each other. How tall do you think Remandre Stevenson can get? He can get huge. You have no idea. You have no idea. Well, that's all for her if he's still growing. He is an inch taller than Damian Harris. So, he would just get even taller. Damn. Yeah, infinite. I would take Damian Harris, but it is so close. It is very close. I'm really excited for Remandre Stevenson's career. I'll go with Damian Harris as well. And it's not particularly close. I think he's still the lead back. I think this is like a 65-35 kind of scenario. And I'll take the 65 guy first. Yeah, I'm with you guys. And I'm sure you all agree with me here. At ADP, I'd probably rather have Stevenson. If they're both on the board, give me Harris. But I think Stevenson's going to be one of those guys that's cheap later in the drafts. And that could return some value. What do you guys think there? Yeah, maybe. It depends how it pans out. Because I could see Remandre Stevenson climb up draft towards a little bit. He has a couple of good pre-season games there. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, not even with you. I would not pay a premium for him by any means. Yes, yes. So Damien Harris, I'm not paying a fourth round pick for Damien Harris next season. So it depends how high he's getting drafted. Yep, I'm with you, Josh. And, Jay, you are muted down there right now. Anything else on this New England game before we move on? Not really. Kendrick Bourne had a solid game. But there's really no wide receivers that you're really interested in for fantasy purposes. I will say if you fade the tight end position next season, I really like Hunter Henry, even though he did not have a good game here. He seemed to have a connection with Mack Jones, and I think that's going to continue. There you go, Fandall. Daddy Fandall. Yeah, that was. I love it. I love it. I like Hunter Henry. If you fade tight end going into next season, I think he's somebody who could be practically free and return some value. I like Hunter Henry as well next season. Yeah, I'm with you. He's a touchdown or bus kind of guy. At least this year it seemed like he was, but of that tight end glob, he seems to be topped here when it comes to most likely to get a touchdown. He's a guy you just leave your draft. He's your last pick, maybe, hopefully. If he's good, if he's climbing up draft boards, I want nothing to do with him though. Yeah. Because we're going to move on to our next game, the first game of today, the Philadelphia Eagles versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the Bucs coming out on top 31 to 15 in this one. Yeah, this game was ugly. It was very ugly. The Eagles, I don't think anyone was surprised that Eagles did not play very well. Bucs came out on top. The total on this game is 47 and a half. It's a casual shot at all Eagles fans. To no one's surprised that Eagles played poorly. Yeah, were you really hopeful? I think actually a lot of people thought the Eagles were going to make this a close game. I was muted, but I just have to give it a round of applause for the Eagles losing too. Like, I just got to be that better fan. It was a good day for me. Lights out for the NFC. Good night. Yeah, the Bucs were- And the Giants have a great traffic. And the Giants have a great traffic. The Bucs were favored by seven and a half points in this game. Let's start on the Eagles side of this ball. Jaylen Hertz did not look good. He didn't look good in this game. He was struggling, his passing in 23 completions of 43 attempts, 258 yards, and they touched down two interceptions. I'm concerned for Jaylen Hertz. I have concern for Jaylen Hertz going into next year. I don't know what's missing in this offense. And I want to get your guys' opinion on this. What do you feel like is the missing piece in this offense? What is Philadelphia missing that's going to take them from being the team that has flashes to where they look really good and then all of a sudden it all starts to crumble like it does today? I think they need a good possession receiver. I think they need someone who's not that big-play guy. They need a Tyler Boyd-type player on the field, a Hunter Renfro-type player, someone who's going to work across the middle, get those easy passes, run clean routes. I know they've got Dallas Goddard filling some of that role, but it seems like the primary target... It sounds like you're describing Devonta Smith. Devonta Smith? He's been a speed guy for them a bit this year, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it seems like that's what they want to use them. They need another weapon. They need another weapon outside of Devonta Smith. I agree. Yeah, Devonta Smith had four receptions, four receptions and 11 targets at 60 yards. It was a pretty quiet game for him. Dallas Goddard had more receptions, six receptions for 92 yards on 12 targets. It seems like Devonta Smith and Dallas Goddard are kind of their only two weapons there. Yeah, I'm concerned long-term with Hertz. I think his production has been masked because he's been a fantasy superstar. The rushing has been phenomenal, but he showed today that Philadelphia wasn't able to run the ball. Tampa Bay is one of the best defenses against the run. Is he going to ever be the guy? Lamar Jackson, it was showed that he could throw the ball in college. Hertz didn't show it as much as Lamar did. I'm concerned that he's never going to be that guy. I think that they have so many holes that they should use these three picks. Next season to shore up the offensive line, even though it's been phenomenal, it's getting older. Who's to say that they don't use one of those three picks on a quarterback? I'm really concerned long-term, dynasty-wise, I would consider trading Jalen Hertz this offseason. Josh, let me ask you, if you are the GM of the Philadelphia Eagles, what moves are you making this offseason? What are you going to try and do? Are you keeping Jalen Hertz? If so, what positions are you targeting in the draft? They got a bunch of picks in the first round this draft. Absolutely. I'm absolutely keeping Jalen Hertz. I'm running with him next season. He proved enough to at least give him one more year as a quarterback. He showed him so much upside. I feel like he gets a lot of unnecessary hate. He didn't look great. He didn't look great, but this guy's still young. They were in a playoff game against what I perceived to be one of the best teams in the NFL, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Eagles want to win the game by running the ball and playing good defense. They got behind early in this game, and Tampa Bay just ran away with it. They weren't able to establish the run game. They had to pass the ball. That's not the way they're going to be able to win games, especially with Jalen Hertz. I don't want to put all the fault in Jalen Hertz whatsoever. The defense also needs to play a little bit better. They got, like you said, three first-round picks. Best player available. Just load this team up with talent, surround it with Jalen Hertz, and I think it's a bright future, honestly. They got good pieces. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. And it absolutely was not all Jalen Hertz. Pretty much all the running backs were pretty lackluster. Miles Sanders had seven carries for 16 yards. That's abysmal. Boston Scott and Kenneth Gainwell each had one carry. Boston Scott had a pretty big one. His one carry was pretty big. It's 34 yards, and it was a touchdown. So that's great. But for this running back core here, you have Boston Scott, you have Miles Sanders, you got Kenneth Gainwell. I don't know if Jordan Howard is going to be on a contract for next season. How are you feeling about Miles Sanders going into next season? Let me get a temperature check on Miles Sanders for going into next season. I feel pretty good about Miles Sanders going into next season. I feel like the games where he's been given the full workload, he's looked pretty good. This is a run first team, right? This is a team that wants to run the ball a ton. So I'm feeling pretty good if you can stay healthy. So probably like a back end RB one, high end RB two in my eyes for Miles Sanders going into next year. What about you, Jay? I am forever a fan of Miles Sanders. I think he's honestly one of the most electric backs in the league. But the problem is, is he doesn't get that workload. You know, seven carries and granted, I know they were behind, but they want to run the ball, use your best running back. And they just, they seem to not want to do that. He's always among the league leaders in yards per carry. I'm looking up his yards per carry right now. Let me see if I could 4.9 yards per carry. So he's, he can take to the house every single time. If they were to commit, you know, I just, I would, I think he's a high end running back to talent. I don't think he's a running back one, but I just, I worry that the Eagles are never going to give him the full workload. What about you, Josh? How you feeling about Miles Sanders? Back end running back to for me. Cool. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. David Montgomery over him for me. Josh Jacobs, JK Dobbins. For next season or dynasty? Yeah, both, both. I'm taking all these guys. Over Miles Sanders, which probably lands them closer to the back end. Maybe mid-level. No, I'm right there with you, Josh. I'm probably back in running back to for Miles Sanders. I'm, I just don't, I'm not confident that that's, it's going to continue. I think he has shown flashes. I'm not confident in the coaching staff that they're going to keep using them. So let's play a little name game with Miles Sanders in dynasty context. Okay. So in dynasty, who would you rather have? Miles Sanders or Josh Jacobs? I already said Josh Jacobs. Did we do the Miles Sanders one? No, no, no, no, no, no. No, we didn't do that. He just said it a second ago. Yeah, I just, that's why I just said it a second ago. But I would go with Josh Jacobs. Simon. I'll go with Sanders, but it's very close. Jay? Miles Sanders. It's very, very close. I will go with Josh Jacobs. What about Elijah Mitchell? Split the room. Split the room. Elijah Mitchell or Miles Sanders? Miles Sanders. Oh-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-choo. This is not fun at all. That's a really close one. Yeah. I think I got to go with Miles Sanders. Josh? You go first, J.O. I'll go Elijah Mitchell. I'll go Elijah Mitchell. At this point, I think I would take Elijah Mitchell over Josh Jacobs, too. But that's a different question. Josh, Elijah Mitchell or Miles Sanders? He's in the same tier with Miles Sanders. But I'm going to go with Elijah Mitchell. Whoo! Split the room again. Top half first, bottom half. Last one, Leonard Fournette or Miles Sanders? Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders. Jay? Okay. Two Miles Sanders, Jay. Miles Sanders. I'd go Leonard Fournette. Let's go. In redraft next year, if Leonard Fournette's with Tom Brady in the box, Leonard Fournette for sure. I mean, it's going to be hard not to drop him as a running back one. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you. So Devonta Smith, moving on to the receiving side of the Eagles here. Devonta Smith, as we mentioned, four receptions or 60 yards. He just wasn't really able to get it going in this game. You could see some frustration throughout the game that I honestly think the buck's defense just played really well.  They're able to shut Jalen Hertz down. They were putting a ton of pressure on Jalen Hertz, which flushing him out of the pocket, which made it really difficult to make some of these passes. And so Devonta Smith, these pretty decent rookie season, I would say probably more in line with historically what we've seen rookie wide receiver rookie seasons look like. It's a really good rookie season. Yeah. It's a really good rookie season. It wasn't below your pants off like Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson. Don't say that. You twisted my nips to say that. But for dynasty purposes, I think a lot of people are bullish on Devonta Smith. A lot of people see the upside in Devonta Smith and his talent. Where do you guys see Devonta Smith being drafted in dynasty formats going forward? After this rookie season, are you higher or lower based off your expectations coming into the season on Devonta Smith? Let me ask that. Definitely higher than I was going into the season. Yeah, I'm with Josh. His value has gone up. I think there was some hesitancy around him. Is he big enough? Can he convert to the NFL? Is that size going to be a problem? I know people were going wild on Twitter about if he was, because he's a little guy.  So I think his value went up. He's probably a wide receiver too in these dynasty startups. I would imagine he's going around some of these older guys that have done a little longer like a Mike Evans and Amari Cooper. That's probably where Devonta Smith is getting drafted next to those two guys. Would you take him over Cooper? Absolutely not. I would take Cooper and Evans over Devonta Smith. What about you, Jay? Would you take Cooper or Devonta Smith? I'd take Cooper. Josh? I'd take Devonta Smith. I would too. It's fair. We are splitting the room today, man. Josh is nice. This has been a fun one. Let's go, Jayle. Yes.  That's how I get encouraged. Josh, you look like you were about to say something before Simon did. It's the hats versus the non-hats. Yeah, that's true of hats. The hansoms versus the non-hansoms. Yeah, we're the hansoms. I wasn't really going to say anything specific. I was just answering your question to yes, I think he has gained value over the course of the season. I agree with Simon. He's proved a lot. He's back in number two wide receiver in dynasty formats. He's definitely a top 24 wide receiver for me. You're taking Waddle ahead of him? I am taking Waddle ahead of him. And of course, Jamar Chase. Absolutely. Yeah, that is a non-question. What about Elijah Moore? You're taking him above Elijah Moore? Absolutely. Yeah, I'll take Smith ahead of Moore, but it's very close. Oh, man, that one hurts my feelings. Oh, I might go more. Come back to me next week. I need to do some more. Now, guys, what about, I know the future for Calvin Ridley is uncertain, but it's looking like he's planning on coming back to the lead, maybe with a different team. Calvin Ridley or Devata Smith in dynasty formats. I'll take Calvin Ridley. I'll take Ridley, too, if he's coming back.  That's what I was thinking. I couldn't pull the trigger either way. I was going to say, right, I want to say Calvin Ridley, but you just don't know what situation he's going to wind up in. I, right now, I'd rather have Devata Smith. Yeah. Yeah, I don't believe that. I think I would, too. All right, moving on to the other side of this, of all, onto the Buccaneers. Elise's side. Tom Brady. He doesn't look like he's lost a step at all. He's a good boy. I know this is, he just gets better. I know this is always the storyline, but I'm sitting there watching the game today, and I'm just thinking, at what point does Tom Brady retire? Like, at what point is he like, all right, now's a good time? Never. Because if you're good enough to compete. Like, when he stops playing really well, yeah. Yeah, so like, at what point do we start to see that? Like, can we expect, like, if that's the case, if that's what's going to, it's going to take for him to retire, I can see him playing for four more years, at least. Or, or he could just get bored. Like, let's say he wins the Super Bowl. He's like, God, this is just too easy now. Tom's going to play it's time. He loves it. Tom Brady could win the Super Bowls and say, I want 101. Tom Brady will never get board winning. That dude, it's a regular season game, and they're up 40, and they miss a pass, and he's over there screaming, and he is nuts. Yeah, but smashing tablets on the ground. I posted a poll on Twitter a little while ago today, a couple hours ago, and it doesn't have a ton of votes, but is Tom Brady a top five quarterback next season, if he's still at the Bucks? And 81% of people said yes. I voted no. I voted on that poll. That's fine. I think I'm, I think I'm with him. I think he is a top five quarterback in fantasy next season. I'm just like, I'm going through my rankings, and it's going, I feel like it's going to be hard to put him in top five, but I don't think it's wrong. Know what I mean? Next season, Joe, Joe Burrow, or Tom Brady next season. That's the question. That's, that's the question that everyone's going to have. And I'm thinking, it's like Herbert, it's Herbert Brady. In Dynasty, it's not a question at all. Brady, I'm not, I don't even want to touch him. But next season. I don't know, and Tom Brady could play another 15 years. Well, it's not that I don't want to touch him. That, that was an incorrect statement. I definitely want to touch him. Well, you probably can put my hands all over him in Dynasty. I digress. I'm sorry. No, no. So yeah, I don't know if I would take Burrow. I think I would still probably take Tom Brady next season. I want to touch him all. In Dynasty. I want to touch him all. So, but with, so Tom Brady, if it, are you guys expecting him to play at least three more years? And we sure, I'm not betting against Tom Brady. Yeah. If you made me bet a million dollars one way or another, I would say, yeah, I'm with Josh. I mean, what if he makes it to 50? Like, that's going to be so silly. He's going to have 50 years old playing football. Anyway, with, with like, and then that got me, this whole line of thought got me then like into a tangent of like, well, if he keeps playing, Gronk's, Gronk's going to keep playing. And that means Gronk's going to still be a relevant tight end for fantasy. Is Gronk, do you guys think that Gronk's value and he's going to like his, let me rephrase this. Is Gronk going to retire if Tom retires or when? Yes, I think Gronk retires when Tom retires. And I think there's a very real world where he retires a year or two before his body was taken more of a beating than Tom Brady says. He's already had issues with injury. He's talked about it publicly. We're in the past. If he had to like miss the game for injury, sometimes he would say like, Oh, thank God, my body needed that break. Um, I think Gronk's body gives up on him before Tom's Brady. Tom Brady's done. And then Tom Brady before Tom Brady. I think Gronk's Brady gives up before Tom's Brady. I definitely think he retires a year or two before Brady. A hundred percent. Tom's Brady, Tom Brady, all, both of them. Everybody's Brady. I could see Gronk being out there still. He's saying that that has implications for his fantasy value as well.  Let me just set the show off the rails real fast. Yes, let's do it. Who is going to finish as a better tight end? Gronk or Kelsey next season? No, their career. Oh, career wise. Yeah. Real fast. Just it's Gronk right now, but it's wrong. Well, like, are we taking like postseason accolades? And it's like, I think no one passes. Fantasy wise. I think you have to go with Kelsey. Yeah. Accolades and touchdowns. Super Bowl is done in the postseason. It's Gronk is a greater tight end. And I digress. I'm sorry. I'm going to actually get in this conversation. So, yeah, I'll go Gronk as well. I was thinking about this today. And I look at Kelsey has a lot more catches in a lot less seasons. Wow. That's interesting. It's an interesting question, Josh. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, we are moving on to our last game of the day before we preview Monday night football. The San Francisco 49ers taken down the Dallas Cowboys 23-17. And I said at the beginning of the show, I can't remember if I said it before. We started right at the beginning. It was right at the beginning, I remember now. I think the 49ers were the team that I underestimated the most going into this playoffs. They got it on both sides of the ball. That defense is fantastic. And they played a lot of this game missing some of their best pass rushers as well. There were some injuries, players that didn't come back out, and a bossa missed a good chunk of time in this game. But the defense still looked fantastic in that offense with weapons like Debo, Elijah Mitchell, Brandon Niu, George Kitt. Like, it's coming together. This is a good team. Now, I think they still lose to the Packers in the next round. But this 49ers team is looking pretty good. Would any of you guys... It should be a game. I think it'll be a good game. Would any of you guys take the 49ers over the Packers based on what we've seen so far now? Let me see what points they're getting. I might take the spread. Gotcha. Might take the spread. But no money line. You're not taking the 49ers straight up over the Packers. I think they have a shot. But I think the Packers are the best, most well-rounded team in the NFL right now. Yeah, I tend to agree with you. I also think the 49ers winning here was a gift to whoever wins tonight's game as well, right? It sends them to the Buccaneers instead of the Packers. And I believe the Packers are going to be slower. Packers are going to be slower. The Packaneers are by far the best team. No one wants to play the Bucs right now. And no one wants to play the Packaneers. The Bucs are hot. No one wants to play the Bucs or Packers. The one and two seed in both divisions are pretty tough to get through. So we'll see. But I would rather play the Bucs than the Packers right now. Me too. Me too. Me too. That's where I stand right there. Debo Samuel doing it again as a running back. He had 10 carries and a rushing touchdown and a very pretty rushing touchdown at that. It wasn't just a goal line carry. He found that whole shout out to the offensive line and all the people blocking that created that for him. That's so good. Man, he's just unreal. In a dynasty context, guys, where do you have Debo Samuel? Jay, is he a top five Dynasty wide receiver? Top 10? Like, and I don't even think I need to say another option outside of that. No, he's no doubt top 10 for me. Top five would be hard. I mean, I take Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, CD-Lam over him. I mean, AJ Brown or Debo? I mean, that's the question. I take AJ Brown. Me too. Yeah, I don't think I can put him in the top five.  Cooper Cup or Debo? In Dynasty, I'm assuming. Dynasty, yeah. Now that's tough, right? Josh, I saw you making a face up there. Where are you going? Are you going Cooper Cup or Debo? I'll go Cooper Cup. I'll take Debo Samuel over DK Maycalf. OK, you know what? I'm with you. Fandals at Debo is both wide receiver one and RB1. Facts, yeah. And QB1. Got to keep in mind, I say it all the time. Debo Samuel has been so injured throughout his career, back to college. He's been riddled with injuries, so just a little bit of a concern. Yeah, but he's had a fairly healthy year this year, since he's been back. Yes, he has. And I know the ballers have talked about this a lot. Like Frank Gore was known as being injury prone until he wasn't. Like he was an injury prone guy through college his first couple of years in the NFL and then he stopped. So sometimes players just get injury after injury and then it's bad luck. You found the family youth and the rest of history. You're right. Maybe Debo just needs to call up Frank Gore over there. Because Jimmy Garoppolo, he did what he needed to in this game and it wasn't too much. But I think that's what the 49ers are expecting of him. Just go out there. Don't lose the game for us. You don't have to win it for us either. You can trust your weapons. You can get it done. What do you guys think of Trey Lance in this offense next year? So we've seen what Jimmy G does. We've seen little pieces of Trey Lance. But how are you guys viewing Trey Lance as like a fantasy option for next season? Because this is a great offense that he's stepping into. For the record, I have not seen Trey Lance as little pieces. But I will say if he is given the keys to this offense, I think he's a QB1. I think he's shown when he's on the field with the rushing upside. I absolutely love it. The weapons, you know, IU, Debo, Kiddal. You know, you throw any running back, back there. But Elijah Mitchell has been fantastic. I would, I wouldn't draft him as a QB1, but I definitely think that he has the potential to wind up the end of the season as one. Ash, what about you? Yeah, if he, like, if he's given the keys to the offense, we know 100%, he, they're throughout the offseason. They're planning on him being the starter. Heropoulos traded. Yeah, yeah, Heropoulos out of there. He will be a back-end QB1 for me. There's no doubt about it. Yeah, I think I'm with you guys. There was one other player on this offense that I did want to talk about. So the 49ers moving on the next round, like we said, but Brandon Ayuk was someone that people were starting to give up on going into this year, right? Like he was super hyped up, drafted him high, and then at the beginning of the season, it looked like it was a lost cause. He wasn't being used, but he's turned it on over the back half. So I'm curious how we're valuing Brandon Ayuk in a dynasty context right now. So we're going to play a little bit of a name game to figure it out. The first player we're going to start with is Mike Williams. So, Gail, we'll come to you first. Mike Williams or Brandon Ayuk in a dynasty league? Who would you prefer? Are we assuming Mike Williams goes back to the Chargers? Yeah, let's assume he's with the Chargers. Mike Williams is 27. He's our age. He's 23. Ayuk's 23. Oh gosh, I guess I would take Ayuk at this point. They're close enough that age gives him the edge, in my opinion. Age gives him the edge. Josh, what about you? I agree. I would take Brandon Ayuk over Mike Williams. And it has to start off. Yeah, it's the ages, the tiebreaker, the talents. Pretty equal, situation's pretty equal, but give me Ayuk based on age. I think Mike Williams is a better receiver, all things considered. But fantasy-wise, the performance isn't quite there as much. I'm with you, Gail. And I agree with you guys. Now, here's another one. Josh, we'll come to you first on this one. Marquis, Hollywood Brown or Brandon Ayuk. Who are you preferring in dynasty league? In a dynasty league? Yeah. So, with the comeback of Rashad Bateman as well. That's where I think this gets tricky. You kind of have to consider it. It's just, I think Rashad Bateman looked really good at the end of the year. I think this is actually really close. And I put Brandon Ayuk and Marquis Brown in a tier. But listen, I'm a Ravens fan. Hollywood Brown and Lamar Jackson are like best friends. As long as Lamar Jackson's the quarterback, which he will be, Hollywood Brown will be good. I'll take Hollywood Brown. Jay, what about you? Yeah, it's really close. But I'm going to give the nod to Hollywood ever so slightly. He's, you know, who's to say that? Ayuk won't go back in the doghouse again for some strange reason because Shanahan is Shanahan. Yeah, it's close. I mean, you could ask me tomorrow and I could go Ayuk, but I lean that relationship.  We don't know once Trey Lance comes in who his favorite target is going to be. You know, it might not be Ayuk. It could be somebody else. So someone else entirely, just a different human. Jay, what about you? Different person. This is easier than the last question. I'll go Mark East Brown. I'd rather have Mark East Brown. I think he's above both those guys. Gotcha. Mark East Brown ahead of both of those guys. We're going to move on to the other side of this ball, the Dallas side over here. Sorry, excuse me. Dak Prescott, not his best game overall, but from a fantasy perspective, it was fine. But the Dallas Cowboys offense, I think yet again, this is a disappointing season for them, especially with the improved defense that they had this year, much better than people thought it was going to be. They came out and knocked out in the first round. But Dak Prescott, we've talked about the quarterbacks at length, I think. He seems like the kind of guy that we're looking at, not in that top tier, but in that very next tier, right? With the Justin Herbert's, with the Joe Burroughs, with Kyler Murray's. Josh, you were the one, I think, who put him in that tier earlier. Is he at the back end of that tier for you or floating in the middle? He is absolutely at the back end. In a dynasty league, I would take all the quarterbacks. Again, I'll go through it again. Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, top two for me. Justin Herbert, Kyler Murray, Joe Burroughs, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott. And I put them in that tier because it's like next quarterbacks we're talking about a little bit older. We're talking about Matthew Stafford, Sarah Rogers, maybe Trevor Lawrence's or Trey Lance's of the world. So that's absolutely a tier. Maybe Russell Wilson. So you got to put them in that tier though. Yeah, I'm with you guys. One more thing before we move on from this Cowboys offense. So there have been whispers and rumblings among the fantasy community all season about the possibility that Tony Pollard is the better back in this offense, that he's the one that you want to roster in dynasty leagues. Jay, do you put any credence or any facts to that? Do you think Tony Pollard's value is approaching that of Zeke's in a dynasty format? It's hard to say just because everybody, just like the backup quarterbacks, always the fans favorite player, the backup running back is always fantasy football's favorite player on a team. We haven't seen him get that full workload, be able to handle it. He's obviously had huge games. It's kind of reminding me of Lamar Miller, where Lamar Miller, when he was in Miami, he was never given the full workload. He had these flashes and it was like, oh, just wait till he's the guy.  Oh, now he's in Houston. Right, exactly. Oh, and I fully bought into Lamar Miller. That's why that name came up because he burned me bad. I was a big Lamar Miller fan. But it's just in a dynasty format, where you're going to have to draft them, I would probably still take Zeke just because I think you're not going to have to spend a first. I mean, is Zeke still going in the second round of dynasty drafts? Probably not. So give me the value on Zeke, the hype surrounding Pollard while I do think at this point in his career, I think he's just as talented as Zeke. I'm not sure he's able to handle that workload. If he is a bell cow back, there's too many question marks for me to put him there just yet. Yeah, I tend to be with you, Jay. I think Zeke is still the primary ball carrier in this offense. As much people are going to call for it. He had another 1,000 yard season this year on a down year. Like Zeke is still a great running back. Now that being said, I think these backs have really complementary skill sets. I think Zeke is a great between the tackles runner. He's great up the middle. And I think Pollard is really good on the outside. He's got that speed that makes him exciting to watch, right? Like I think that's why people are all in on Pollard because his skill set is an exciting skill set for a running back for a viewer. He gets on the outside and he just takes off and he's elusive. So I think they both have roles in this offense next year. You may see Pollard's grow, but Zeke is still the guy in my eyes. Geek Mill, welcome in. Sup nerds.  And then we got Albert with a question in here as well. Albert wants to know, is Schultz at top 8 tight end next year? Yes. That's a perfect question. Yes. With how the tight end landscape is, I don't know how you don't have them at top 8. Well, check it out. There's the obvious top 7 or at least top 6, George Kittle, Pitts, Andrews, Kelsey, Waller, Hawkinson, Goddard. And then this is the 8th. And then you're talking about guys like Micah Sicki. And is Goddard the obvious above Schultz is my question. No, no, no. I just think that you're going to see him being trapped in the top 8 tight ends. Yeah, I'll take Goddard over Schultz. I'll take Schultz over Goddard. No, I'll take Goddard. And Schultz has been a focal point in this offense this season. Like he's been heavily involved, even with all of these other receiving options, in a past first offense. Like I'm taking Dalton Schultz. Schultz is a top 8 tight end next year. And Josh said, that's perfect. That's exactly where, oh, and we forgot one. Pitts, did we forget to say Pitts, Josh? I said Pitts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kittle Pitts, Kelsey Andrews, Waller, Hawkinson, Goddard. That's seven. Just to check. Is everyone taking Pitts ahead of Schultz next year? Oh, with that. Fandals and Pitts. I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page there without making any assumptions. Guys, that is going to be it for this game. Before we jump off, though, I wanted us all to at least make our predictions on this Arizona Cardinals, Los Angeles Rams game. The Rams are favored by three and a half points going into this one. I'll go first instead of putting any of you guys on the spot. I think the Rams. I know what I think is happening. I think the Cardinals cover on this one. So I think it's going to be a close game. And I'll say 24-21 with the under hitting. So the over under is 49 and a half points. I'll take the Rams 24-21. Josh, where are you going? Yes, it's a 49 and a half point over under. I think the Rams win a close one as well. So I'm going to say 28-24. So it's a three and a half point spread. So I guess I would take the Rams minus three and a half, but I don't feel very confident about that. I said it's going to be 28-24. That's 52 points. I feel a little bit more confident about the over in this one, actually. So I really like the over and I like the Rams in this game. Jay, what about you? I love the over. I think there's going to be a lot of points scored. I do like the Rams. And I don't think it's going to be close. I think they're going to cover. I'm going to go Rams 41, Cardinals 30. That's very over. And that's a very high scoring game. I think it's going to be a high score. I think they put on 31-30. 31-40. 41-30. 41-30. I think it's going to be a shootout. I hope you're right. I was going to say I hope you're right, Jay. I'm cheering for Jay's answer. Jayle, what about you? I'll say I'll take the Cardinals to cover. Final score, I'll say 31-28. 31-28. Cool. And I said 20. So I was on the Cardinals cover, but it's under. Jayle on Cardinals cover, but it's over. But all of us picked the Rams, which I think every time all of us have picked the team, I think that team is lost. That's wrong. That's wrong. No, no, no. Is that wrong? Three weeks ago, we picked the Packers and we all bet against ourselves and that we won. You're right. You're right. We broke the curse. We are free of that curse now. So do we want to do it again? All of us or none of us? No, we already have one on the board. It's all of us against Jay. Jay just likes making the sounds. That's basically all of us. I have yet to have to make any kind of animal sound. Thank you very much. Oh, we got a Cardinals guess in here, though. Geek, Mill and you're saying Cardinals over Rams, 38-35. So Geek, this bet against you now. The overs are popular. The overs are popular. I think I was the only one who took the under. And Geek was the only one who took the Cardinals on this one, but everyone who answered.  Just pick them at like, you know, Moneyline. And then I like maybe parlaying that with you over. I might actually do that. Actually, did the game start? The game just started. The game did start, yeah. It's kind of like, no, that's tomorrow. That's tomorrow. Oh, that is tomorrow. Oh, yeah. The game did start, Josh, but a different game entirely. No, this game started. Yeah, Josh was talking about, yeah, that's tomorrow. I just missed the jammer. Yeah, yeah. The Rams Cardinals game starts tomorrow. The Chiefs Steelers started now. And that game has started, guys. I know everyone wants to go watch. Oh, freaking NFL Networks playing a replay, then, of the Cardinals Rams. You know what they're doing. And it's up on my screen. They didn't know what they're doing. They didn't know what they're doing. They got people.  We know one of them, at least. I was seriously confused there for a second. Like, I'm watching the game, guys. It's two minutes in. I wish no one would have said anything and it would have gone to the end of the game and Jail would have thought like, ah, the Rams. I would have been lying. He's tweeting the whole game. Wow, great catch, man. We did this. You're like, Jail's talking about. Jail, the resident fortune teller. Guys, that is going to be it for us this evening.  Enjoy the rest of Wild Card Weekend and we will be back next week. Same time, same place. So tune in then and come watch us. Before you jump off, though, if you have not done so already, make sure you're following FanDuel across all of their socials. You can find them at FanDuel on YouTube, Twitch, TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter. There's a whole team of awesome content creators helping you guys win some cash. And they're just awesome people. You know what I mean? They're better than us. We're the bottom of the barrel over here, except for Jail with that handsome face up there. I'm top of the barrel. You're going up and down. I didn't know where you were. You're not top. Not on the bottom. OK, that's fair. Middle of the barrel. Yeah, you're the middle of the barrel. Like where that first metal stripe is on the outside. That's where it's about where you are. I don't know what those things are called if anyone knows. That is going to be it for us this evening, though, guys.  We're out of here. Adios, everyone. Barrel bell? Love you guys.