YouTube team keep it clean. What's going on? It's engraving here with another video and in this video We're here to talk about what we Just my thoughts Just do a little review of the Ravens training camp What I saw from it What I like from it what I dislike from it and really just a mix of the the training camp and The open practice as well Let me make sure I have this oh I didn't even share the video yet. Let me share the video All right, there we go. All right. What's up JB smooth? Hopefully this thing works. I am I'm almost anticipating I'm almost anticipating the stream messing up so Sorry Drop something on the floor, but yeah, I'm almost anticipating the stream crashing Because last time I tried to stream on the last time I tried to stream on the phone was for the draft and After that never did it again. Never did it again. But anyway Real quick couple of shout outs from the people from today Shout out to my guy Sonny from SDG sports shout out to Quincy carrier from worst take Shout out to my guy Demetri. We all went to the training camp together today. I had a good time Super chill and Yeah, we had fun man. We had a real good time so Let's let's talk about it because I've seen a lot of different stuff a lot of people said some different stuff about Some various players from Ravens training camp. I have have gotten a lot of questions from a lot of people Hey, what's going on? How was training camp who impressed who looked good who didn't look good who looked bad who looked whatever? So we're gonna talk about both the the open practice and the training camp and real quick at the open practice I felt like I need to go play receiving for the Ravens because I was on my way to I think I was on the way to Go meet somebody or something. I'm either on my way to the bathroom to go meet somebody. I forgot, but I'm good I'm tired, but I'm good But I was walking I was walking out of this the section that we were sitting in and And shout out to my boy Kevin Redline and his family appreciate y'all a lot. Thank you but we were walking out the section that we were sitting in and They were like, oh, which section gonna make the most noise so we could throw the t-shirts So we were in section 100 and section 100 made the most noise I think they were just picking sections at random though But um, they started throwing the t-shirts over by us and with the t-shirt. What's up, Terry? Gw this maybe you need to close it and reopen it it seems to be working But anyway, they they was throwing the t-shirts and I caught one and this is the shirt right here It says our city our team So that was it feel like a little groupie or something. I just show the shirt like this I ain't gonna do that no more anyway So let's just go position by position And this is from my point of view my perspective what I liked what I dislike whatever And shout out to all the y'all that I saw out there both at the open practice and at the At the training camp Yet the shirt does look good. It's a little big though. It's a little big I think Ravens were trying to tell me something. They like hey, you probably gonna grow into this shirt But I'm trying to I'm trying not to But anyway Position first we're gonna start with quarterbacks Obviously gonna start with the starter. That is a Lamar Jackson Lamar Jackson was up and down. He was up and down And in yesterday in the open practice I think he looked worse yesterday than he did today But he was up and down He I think the biggest Throws that he struggled with Where the deep passes? Especially more so yesterday like yesterday And there was one in particular Where Boykin beat I forgot who Boykin beat well, he was beating everybody so don't really matter But Boykin beat somebody and it was touchdown feels a real game. It should have been a touchdown throw What's up, Tony should have been a touchdown throw, but the motto is short Boykin still caught it But it should have been a touchdown throw And then there was somewhere Lamar there was somewhere he threw into the dirt There was just but then there was somewhere they were really good. They were really really good His I mean we we saw it last year and we've been hearing like reports about it and stuff this offseason but if yesterday and Today was any indication how this offense is gonna be and how this season is gonna be Then Lamar Jackson's favorite target is going to not I was about to say going to be but it's going to continue to be Mark Andrews this guy. Hey appreciate you know this guy There was some passes that he threw that with ducks. There was some daddy through to the dirt There was some daddy through that was just not on target but When he was connecting with Mark Andrews is something about them too. It was always on point all Every single time it was always on point this guy with with Mark Mark Andrews is going like I said I was about to say Mark Andrews is going to be his guy But Mark Andrews was already his guy last year. So Mark Andrews is going to continue to be his guy, but again Biggest thing that I that I've been noticing from Lamar Yesterday and today just he got to get the consistency up. He got to get the consistency up We know he can make the throws we know he can make all the throws in the world saw it especially today They had them practicing a what's up Jordan. They had him practice a Throw into the back corner the end zone and he nailed all of them now granted it Obviously wasn't against a regular defense. There was no pass rushes coming at him or anything like that But you got to start practicing somehow But yeah, so consistency you got to get up And of course he's still fast. Oh, and you know what speaking about his speed What's up done? How's the play calling at the line? I'm It there was most of it was smooth for the most part But there was a little there was a sequence where it got a little sloppy a lot of false starts But overall it was smooth But they don't it ain't really much play calling that they do at the uh, and in these practices or whatever They ain't yeah, but for the most part it was smooth Even though Kenneth Dixon messed up twice today. I think Lamar was like yelling at him or something But anyway So he got to work on that Oh But yeah, they said that he gained what seven to ten pounds or whatever But you have to movies watching this Josh you're crazy what movie you're watching movie must be really born for you to come On here watch this boring stream But yeah What was I saying now I forgot Josh messed me up. Oh They Lamar said he added seven to ten pounds away a muscle. He said he added seven to ten pounds This dude eat nothing. I know you trolling me You goofy This guy said oh For the people that that don't watch this live He just said um he said the Lamar showing the improvements or am I gonna have to buy a McSawley jersey shout out to trace McSawley, man Well, yeah Lamar added seven to ten pounds of muscle So I know he did it on a question from subscriber, but I don't think that video came out yet. I'm not sure but a Good question could be if that would affect his speed and affect how quick he was affect all of that stuff It didn't at all Lamar is still just as fast and it's funny because what I said last year when we went to training camp I'm like I had heard about how fast he was blah blah blah But a lot of stuff that Raven's reporters be saying I don't be believing because I want to see for myself Even though Jeff Zerbiek and James and Hensley with those two they they can be honest Especially Jeff Zerbiek because he tweets a lot more than James and does they can be honest because they don't work for the Ravens So that's why those two though. I ain't nothing Marcus. I appreciate y'all though, man But that's why those two I Favored those two's reporting over people who actually work for the Ravens because they can be brutally honest And you know y'all know Jeff and he y'all on Twitter and you follow Jeff Zerbie You know he is real deal and he will tell it like it is man. He will tell it like it is that's why I love him But last year for training camps and stuff I had been hearing about how fast Lamar was how quick he was blah blah blah blah blah And I was like, okay cool. He probably is but these people really make him sound like he's like super fast and something like that But then when we came up here last year, I was like, oh It's real So now like I was saying earlier question could have been oh with Lamar adding these seven to ten pounds of muscle Oh, man, it's probably gonna slow him down not one bit not one bit Not one bit at all not one bit The dude is just as fast And in the thing the same thing I said last year. He's super fast and this was practiced So he was holding back He wasn't even doing everything that he was gonna gonna do well that he would be doing in a regular game So this dude is just as fast. Yeah, he don't hold no punches, man I love him love it love it love it and again It ain't nothing against the Ravens the people that work for the Ravens because that's the employer That's who's paying their salaries or whatever. So they um They they can't they're not gonna talk bad about them. They're not even gonna be completely honest about them Let's be straight up. They're not gonna be completely honest about them the Ravens paying a salary What company you know is gonna pay you to Say to talk about the bad too If it was my company, I would but it's not cuz I think and I was just telling somebody this yesterday I feel like um, I feel like with the company with a business, whatever. Yeah, you got people that talk about the good stuff What's up? Can you got people to talk about the good stuff? But at the same time I feel like you would you will gain even more respect if you had people that actually work for you And that were willing to talk about the bad too That's just my opinion though. Some people may agree some people might disagree it is what it is, but anyway So hey, what's going on? Dimitri? You see improvements from the modest year from last year. I mean, yeah, it's his team now. So yeah, yeah Just just being commanded. Oh Josh appreciate that man Thank you man. Thank you. We we're gonna talk about them when we get to the corners So we going um, we going position by position appreciate that a lot Josh. Thank you But Lamar, yeah, he's he's up and down. There's more ups than downs, but still a good amount of downs too. Um Rg3 He he looked he looked sharp. Um The only pass that I didn't like from him was one that he threw Yesterday, yeah, obviously yesterday because he he practiced a but he practiced today Um, but yeah, he he looked sharp. What's up, ak? Narone, what's going on? Oh, I ain't tried on yet. Appreciate the jersey though. Shout out. Shout out to my god. Dimitri, man Forgot me this hollywood jersey. You said it this real this real hollywood jersey See Raven, it's not like the jerseys that you be getting. This is real deal I'll say yeah, it is man. Even the NFL sign. It's nice and shiny Super shiny. I like it. So appreciate it I'm gonna try it on on a day because I just had a couple slices of pizza So I might have to wait till tomorrow to try that that went on but we appreciate that again, man um For rg3. He looks sharp as usual. No surprise. No shocker and nothing like that. Um, rg3 looks comfortable rg3 is that dude um It sucks what happened to him yesterday, but again, like I said in the video earlier, man Even more respect for rg3 as a player even more respect for rg3 as a player for him Come into practice fully dressed not on the sidelines at all going through all the uh, the all the drills with the other quarterbacks Rg3 real deal, man Shout out to rg3 Um, he was making like I said earlier. He's making passes with his left hand, but he was he was real deal What's up, Ian? So shout out to rg3. Um, it was really nice to see uh To see him still go be going through the stuff even with his messed up thumb So I should have tried to say what's up to him and gave him a thumbs up and see if he would have responded back But it's all good, man. Um So it wasn't much much of him yesterday. I mean today, but yesterday. Yeah, he was he was cool. He was cool He was he was still same rg3 trace McSorley Um, my guy we're gonna we're gonna get there. We're just going by position by position So everybody asking about different positions just just so I don't forget just ask about that position when we get to that position So we we going we going position by position So y'all just just bear with me. Please um Trace McSorley I think sonny said it best What's up, Byron? Appreciate good good seeing you yesterday too, man. Um, my boy sonny sdg sports He said it best. He said trace McSorley looks like a uh six round pick quarterback Um and with trace what I was telling them today when we were talking I'm like, what man with trace is it's kind of unfair to him but he He he's not nearly as quick as a Lamar Jackson and I mean, what's up, Patrio? Not many people are at all, but um, he And and it's kind of unfair to compare him to a Lamar Jackson But it's hard not to because he's on the same team and position as a Lamar Jackson Um, so The reason why I bring up his quickness or lack thereof is because he If it was a real game yesterday and if it was a real game today, he would have gotten absolutely destroyed By the pass rush He would have gotten absolutely destroyed. He tried to like step up. He tried to move But it just it wouldn't have been enough It wouldn't have been enough. Can I start from the beginning? No, man This is no We only on the third quarterback out of everybody who we're gonna talk about So no, I can't start over. You're just gonna have to run that back, man.  Anyway, so you'll be straight Uh, what's up, Milton? Can he young get bigger? Can he young he can young got a really big head?  Is it a pit a pit bull or rock? Well, he looked like a just a doll, man What's up done now? He looks like a doll. What's up, Javan? but anyway, um trace McSawley Up up and down up and down um Yeah, up and down He just he doesn't there's not much that well before there wasn't much that was expected of him Um, just for him to try to I guess get up to speed as much as he possibly could Um, they oh one thing I did notice Um, but again, it is it was an open practice and it was a training camp. What's up, Cubase? um, he With trace McSawley They didn't line him up all over the place They didn't do any of that But again, it was an open practice in his training camp. So maybe they like hey, we're gonna keep that on the low Or maybe they're not gonna do it at all What's up, DeMarco? um I think my boy Demetri made a good point, uh, that uh And I and maybe it was Quincy. I forgot exactly who that They they want or they said they want trace McSawley to be there tight some heel they taste some heel like the saints got um But he's just he says his body is not built like that. It's not built like that. Um and he We'll see man like and I said this in other videos I just I don't if they're gonna you do to go to taste some heel right with him I just don't want it to be forced like the the flacco and the mar plays were when flacco and the mar was together um I mean, it's true Marcus. I ain't about ain't about to start over. You're gonna have to run it back later um, but yeah, he Yeah, hopefully they don't force that what's going on asa Hopefully they don't they don't force it. Um, so we'll see what happens with him But yeah, trace McSawley for the most part for the most part. He was he looked all right He didn't look bad. He didn't look like oh my gosh.  Um He yeah, he was hitting his hitting his receivers on the money for the most part from what I saw. Um Yeah, he was fine. So Trace is cool, man Trace is Oh, yeah, he is much cheaper. But yeah, we'll see how that all works out, man Uh, hey, what do you think about the coach chances at the Super Bowl? We talk about that in another video Um, so yeah, that those were the quarterbacks. Those are the quarterbacks Um, Mark Ingram will start we'll go to the running backs now. Ain't no like button on my screen I don't know. I don't know what kind of screen you watching on but it's all good, man Maybe you watching from uh, maybe you watching from like a smart tv But anyway Oh gosh, anyway running backs, um mark ingram I saw some people saying he looked good not to me Not to me. Um, especially yesterday yesterday Every time that he touched the ball and this could have been this could have been on the offensive line too though but uh Anytime you touched the ball yesterday at the open practice Defense all over the backfield all over them. No positive yards at all None, um today today was today was better. Uh, and he there was one part where he was running And I'm like, let's say what hold up That's mark ingram. I saw the 21 I said, oh, he had looked a lot like faster than uh, then I thought he was Um, but again, he was just running by himself. He wasn't running like with the defense He was just running by I think it was like after a play because you know how they'll run the play And they run a play in practice and then they'll they'll blow the whistle but mark ingram. He kept running so He he just he looked like he had a nice little burst. Um, but it wasn't really too much from him um Gus Edwards He did lose a lot of weight. Gus Edwards looks good. He did still have that burst.  Um, I just it's it's hard to gauge if he lost strength though because We didn't get to really see him or if he's really going to be breaking tackles like that We got we just got to wait for preseason a lot of stuff to really see if it's real deal or not We're going to have to wait for preseason um Kenna Dixon Kenna Dixon we we were we were recording a video right in front of the castle after the training camp was over We were recording the video. Um, so it was me quincy and uh, as in sonny sdg. What's up, mike? And my boy dimitri. He was he was our cameraman So we were recording the video And then all of a sudden I hit the door open and I look behind and it's Kenna Dixon He just walked right into the video Say what's up to him? Um, and he said what's up and then he just left. He said what's up to all of us and they just left I said, okay, cool, man. That was that so y'all you guys will see that Whenever I edit that video So that was uh, yeah, that was cool, man I um Yeah, that was that it I ain't gonna say no i'ma i'ma say i'ma say what I was gonna say for later, man Um, he said maybe ingram just isn't used to defense like that of the ravens Well, they used to him. Well, they used to really any running back. They go against Um You petty for that mark. He said did he get hurt? Um, but anyway Uh, but yeah with kenna dixon he I I didn't I didn't really see him running much at all if I don't think I saw him run at all Maybe I just missed it because I don't remember him running at all I don't remember him running the ball at all. I don't know if y'all called anybody who was there I didn't see it though. I didn't see it at all man. Maybe it's just I coincidentally missed when he did get his practice touches I didn't see him line up in the passing game, but I did not see him Run at all. Josh. I can't talk about I did a video on Josh Johnson. Where you at? I did a video. That's what I say. That's what I be trying to tell y'all, man Subscribe and turn all notifications on turn all notifications on so when we post a video You will be able to see it if you follow on twitter You will be able to see it if you follow on instagram and you getting the group chats more Forget all that if you follow on twitter You will see every single video goes on twitter Every single video goes on twitter So you will not miss anything so Every single video goes on twitter, but Subscribe and turn all notifications on turn the post notifications turn them all on I'll be I'll be I'll be trying to tell people that but they don't they don't be wanting to hear Hear me, but it's all good man. And then they'd be like going great and what happened to why you didn't do a video on this Well, I did about three four hours ago. Anyway, um, but yeah, I didn't see kenedix in uh run the ball So I can't really say nothing about him, but he does. He does definitely look skinny like, um, I had When I talked to him He told me that he was working on like controlling his body weight and like holding it down and he he does look smaller So that was cool. Um The rookie justice hill um, he had Oh, this is the first time you run an rpo office.  He had a fumble Um, and the fumble came on a play They handed the ball off to him and he was like fighting fighting fighting then boom it came out So maybe it was a case of him trying to do too much or um, I don't know. We'll see uh, but Hopefully that's not a Hopefully this is not a problem Hopefully it was just a fluke Hopefully it doesn't become a habit uh, so We'll see how that goes um tight ends Tight ends Mark andrews Hayden Hurst Nothing bad to say about him Nick Boyle, I didn't see him as much as those two, but he made some catches too But really all the all three of the tight ends I don't have anything bad to say about them at all And that's not me Y'all y'all already know I ain't no homer But they nothing bad to say about them at all They look great, especially uh, andrews and hurst Lamar like I said earlier lamar has that connection especially with mark andrews, but with hayden hurst too, but Definitely definitely mark andrews, man But the hands were good. Um, I think mark andrews from yesterday and today. I saw him drop it drop one For hayden hurst, did he drop any if he did drop any I saw him maybe drop one But I don't remember for sure if he dropped one, but I do remember mark andrews drop one today Uh, he had a he had a I think he had a line back on him But he still dropped it hit him right in the hands and he had a chance to do it, but Tight ends man I said this even Even going into this season. I said it a few times. It's like wow like we have like three good tight ends We have three good tight ends And that's that's special, man Especially if lamar really loves throwing to them tight ends like that We we have three good tight ends three sure handed tight ends Man Okay, man, this could be something man, um Offensive line Um It's really hard to gauge Uh, how good or bad the offensive line was Because um the pass rush Or really lack there of I just didn't see any pass rush like that Only time I really saw a pass rush Was when somebody came untouched like yesterday. Um, they were doing their drills and whatever they're 11 on 11 And mad judon he he came right in for lamar jackson. I'm like, whoa, I'm like, well, who did he beat to do that? Who didn't who did mad judon beat to get that close to lamar jackson? They showed the replay untouched Almost looked like the chief for charges game that we were going against or something untouched so Hard is it's hard to gauge if the offensive line is good or the pass rush is just that bad Um, I know they said that uh, jack silo. He was they said he was doing his thing today Maybe that's maybe that's a part when I was going around talking to some people from team keeping clean Well, I missed that. I don't know but I so I Maybe he was I didn't see it. So I can't say nothing about that Uh, what's going on cute hope I mean, you got like bittersweet news about your boy aj green Since what they say four to eight weeks says that's better than the season. So Ben powers is a weirdo. What why do you say that man? Um The uh, so you that was offensive line wide receivers because there's been a lot of talk about these wide receivers Everybody wants to know about these wide receivers. Who these wide receivers are going to be? How these wide receivers looking? Oh, what about this guy? What about that guy? Um, let's start with the one that's the most popular right now Miles Boykin um miles Boykin He did not look good at all He looked like absolute garbage the ravens wasted a pick on him. Um, I don't know why they even drafted him He he was terrible number 80. He just didn't look good at all. He did not look good at all. Um, he No, he is not going to make the team Not none of that And know that I am just playing when I say all of that Um, Miles Boykin, he looked amazing. Um, he looked great.  He he caught everything everything everything um But the thing with miles Boykin Is I'm and I said this to a lot of people that asked about him specifically When Miles Boykin I I love what I saw from him um Even going against you know going against all corners so But I'm not hyped on it Reason why I'm not hyped on it is because this is training camp This is practice. I'm not gonna get caught up in oh man. Yeah, this guy's he's gonna be amazing He looks so great in training camp or he looks so great in practice.  So I'm chilling I'm chilling. Oh, no not at all Raven Nation 23. Don't try my boy like that Is boykin playing faster One thing I liked about him especially for today. He's using his body He wasn't using his body to catch See there you go Q. Sean He he wasn't using his body to catch he catches with his hands But he was using his body to like there was one I don't know if Lamar threw it. I probably Lamar threw it because boykin was running with Lamar a lot but Whoever the quarterback was threw it through the pass in the back of the end zone and um Boykin sort of he used his body to sort of try to box out whoever the cornerback was And and I like that a lot. Uh, so he uh Yeah, I think Hollywood will be back this week for sure. Hollywood looks ready, man. He looks ready He he looks so ready, but I am so glad that they have been being patient with him Um, because like he looks ready. He looks just fine But let them be patient. I ain't got no problem with that at all. Thank you Ravens for doing it um But anyway, yeah miles miles boykin Hopefully this can continue. Hopefully this is not just training camp hype Like we've heard before with other receivers. We just want to see it be real, man Or I just want to see it be real There are a lot of people saying oh boykin this boykin that and that's fine, but let's Let's let's see it in the games same with Jalil Scott Jalil Scott hasn't looked as good as boykin But I think the only reason for that is because I haven't seen Jalil Scott get as many opportunities as boykin has And maybe that's because maybe he's not getting open as boykin But because Jalil Scott has made some plays to them. He's made some plays Um, and he I mean he looks he looks a lot more confident and I mean last year he was a rookie He's a rookie. What's up demarco? So last year he was a rookie.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and his head just sitting there flowing and stuff I'm like all this dude But um, yeah willy snee he looked he looked the same um So still making all his catches and stuff they they were lining willy sneed up a lot on the outside That's something that I noticed. Um, we know that he's been a slot guy So we'll see how they do in preseason and the regular season and all that stuff um Jordan lastly Oh, man Jordan lastly, man Jordan lastly Jordan lastly It was rough man It was really rough Really rough I felt bad for him I really did man. I felt bad for him.  I'm thinking too much. You were on the active roster You were on the 53 man roster. Excuse me. You were on the 53 man. You made the cut And you made the cut for 16 games You made it all season long But He was inactive But so he was close He was close But now but his problem last year It's the same problem this year too Last year lastly his route running looks spectacular Look great But the hands he kept dropping so much So now this year with lastly His route running looks great But he was dropping dropping dropping dropping Dropping dropping dropping. I'm like, man Like I like I say I really felt for the dude because I'm like, oh come on, man If if this dude if he had hands Who's a receiver to that you could compare him to I don't know. I can't think of anybody off the top of my head But he if he had hands he would be a beast He wouldn't be I he would be because he can run routes so well His route running is smooth, man And that's that's half the battle right there If you can't run routes as an NFL wide receiver, it don't it don't matter how good your hands are If you don't run routes good, you're done But this dude He he said to drop too, but to caught a lot Lastly don't catch a lot He don't catch a lot I know to had his little drops here and there too He had it well, he had a good amount of drops too, but to he had made a lot of passes too He caught a lot of passes too But with lastly he did catch some like today he caught some In that again, that's the thing When he caught the ball like especially today, he looked so good with it in his hands after the catch He looked quick He looked quick He had a burst He it man I wish that If he had hands man, oh he'd be so straight He'd be so straight so straight So He got an it's gonna be uphill battle with him, man He it's gonna be uphill battle with lastly, man People said Devin Hester couldn't catch he couldn't catch a cold But with the ball in his hands it was over see that's the thing with lastly It's Yeah, I think he can be special with the ball in his hands. I don't know about a Devin Hester status, but I mean you never know, but I don't think they will put him in that position On a punt return on a kick return Because he might drop it But it's it's scary, man It's max said to be honest great route running Trump speed any day Just look at Kenan Allen and Doug Baldwin. Now. Yeah, it's true It's true. That's what I was just saying If you can run routes, that's half the battle right there All that being fast and all that that it don't matter if you can't run no routes Man, but anyway, um So yeah, he he got to work on his hands, man He gots to Um, so we'll see what happens with Jordan last Floyd uh, he has looked as as fans have advertised him He looks slow um, just He just looked like the game is is passing He looked like the game is passing Uh And I still I still don't think he's gonna make the team I never thought he was gonna make the team and I still don't think he's gonna make the team Like I said before, I think he's just um You see the truth when a player's job depends on making plays preseason and training camp I well His job is it's depending on his job right now, man His job is depending on this right now. It's depending on him hands and the man's one dependable But yeah, Michael Floyd it looks like the looks like the game is passing. So Uh, we'll see I just I don't expect him to stick around. I think he's just a bridge He's just a bridge to try to help the young fellas, man to try to help them move along um Oh, somebody just mentioned Seth Roberts. Seth Roberts Um, he is he was my biggest surprise from what I saw He was my my biggest surprise in a good way From Just period just out of everybody at offense defense the whole team Seth Roberts He and this not even a joke He looked like an upgraded chris moor He looked like a chris moor with hands with consistent hands Now again, this is training camp but it's funny because You can start to see actually see some stuff in training camp because chris moor In training camp last year up and down And in regular season he'll be like that too, but again, he ain't catch he ain't He hasn't been given all the opportunity in the world, but he lastly last year catching was bad Then it came to preseason same thing right running good catching very drops so I mean it so training camp can sort of get you a preview sometimes but Seth Roberts he um He caught everything He caught everything even On a pass yesterday where I thought Lamar threw it low I thought Lamar threw it low. It was um, they were like on the like three yard line And they spread them out. It was like five wide and Seth Roberts. Oh Jesus Appreciate that John Moore. Thank you, man Oh, y'all be on some wild stuff, man. Appreciate that a lot man um But yes, let's do the John Moore appreciate that man.  Well, I didn't really say nothing about him because I didn't know about him I didn't know I didn't know anything about Seth Roberts The only thing I knew about Seth Roberts when we signed him is that he looks like chris moor and he used to play for the Raiders And we signed and I was like, okay, Seth Roberts. Uh, okay. Oh, whatever. I ain't know the thing about him so he He's been catching everything these past couple days everything everything And this dude he has looked like he's looked like a starter but again he's training camp we got to see uh We got to see what he does in regular games like preseason games starts for starters, but He's look good, man He's look good Was Lamar really throwing it as accurate as people were saying Lamar like I said earlier. I thought he was up and down He was up and down. Yeah, he went today. JG Um, there were more ups than downs, but the downs there were some downs where it's like I was like, I say Lamar like I was telling them I was telling my boy Quincy and Dimitri There was one pass. There was no there were two passes where he um Where he he threw it and they went to the sideline and it was like I was looking as like Who was over there? And I felt I felt like he was trolling on one of them on the second when I was like, oh, He got to be playing around man. He must be joking me because it It wasn't nobody over there. I'm like, whoa Lamar, what's up, baby? but It's so good, man But yeah, I know there were people I think there's reporters and stuff saying oh, he's been crazy accurate and and for the most part It's accuracy. It's accuracy was on point. But when it was off, it was off um Yeah, when it was off it was off But yeah back to the receivers man. Yeah, so Seth Robbins. He looked good so far Chris Moore He he hasn't looked bad. He's just been super super quiet He's been super super quiet. Um, so he didn't He ain't do anything. Uh He go, wow, man. Um, I appreciate you though, man. Thank you for always coming through on these streams, man um But yeah, Seth Robbins. He oh Chris Moore. Like I said, he's quiet. He was quiet. Um, not that that's a A bad thing. He wasn't a bad quiet. He was just quiet He ain't doing anything But and again, it's just two days and it's just me. These are just my eyes I appreciate that Tony. Thank you, man. What's up LeVar? Um So it's possible that maybe I missed something that Chris Moore did I know Tony ball was there Uh, my boy JB smooth. He was there. John Moore was there. Um There's some more people that that's in the chat that was there So maybe maybe they caught something that Chris Moore did that I didn't Please if you did feel free to put it in the in the chat because I I didn't see I didn't see him do anything. What's up, Karan? Oh, thank you for reminding me about them Lord dub Uh, Antoine West. No Jalen Smith. Let's start with Jalen Smith. He was number 16. Um He he hasn't looked good overall to me a lot of drops Um, he doesn't look comfortable. And again, I mean he's an undrafted rookie undrafted rookie free agent Uh, and this is the NFL. It's a big leap. Yeah, he done played in front of thousands and thousands of people in college before But still this the pros and this is a job where you get getting paid to play football legally You know them college, you know in college they didn't make him money to Let's be straight up But he um, he just didn't look comfortable. He didn't make some catches But he had some drop. He had a lot of drops too. So he he just he hasn't he hasn't looked too good to me um I see y'all keep talking about Michael Crabtree. Somebody asked do we need to resound Michael Crabtree? I would say no. Um But yeah Jalen Smith Yeah, so far no good um Wesley Wesley he was 84 uh I think west west he's looked up. He looked up and down to me He looked up and down. Um He looked up and down. He's definitely tall The guy is he is tall The guy's a giant. Um him Jaleel Scott like If they wanted to they can go to A giant roster receivers like Jaleel Scott um Antoine Wesley Jalen Smith uh Miles Boykin um They got some tall dudes on it now all of them not gonna make it but if they wanted to they could do that man Gg. What's up, man? so Anyway, I appreciate it paul. Thank you man monster. Oh number 14. Thank you. Thank you. He um He had a couple drops, but he was he was all right It wasn't anything special anything, but he didn't like stand out anything. Um, well at least these like I said At least these two days and again real quick just a quick reminder This is just from my point of view for these just these past two days This is just from me um, I This is just from what I saw and it's possible that I might might have missed something Because they had different guys practicing at different places both days. So Yeah, um P Martinez he said He said Raven's taking for two God, man, um Tony Tony say chris more didn't give me a wow factor, but Lamar gave me a wow factor for some nice deep throws Okay, um Had a mac truck doing practice. I saw him, but I didn't see him. I didn't see him do anything. Um So that was that and again if I missed something, please anybody that was there feel free Um Well, we had wide receivers. So yeah, that was what other wide receivers are there? Um Oh, Johan jr. Johan jr. They had him doing a punt returns early. Um, he looked quick Um, I I don't I still don't think he's gonna make the team Um, but he did look quick He is he is very small He isn't being small is not the reason I don't think he's gonna make the team because hollywood was gonna make the team But hollywood was also a first-round pick Um, but Johan he I I didn't see him get many opportunities as a wide receiver Uh, what's up donovan? Um, do I think he's gonna make the practice squad? I don't think they're gonna use a spot for him. I just don't see it.  Um, but yeah, Johan Yeah, he he didn't really get many opportunities at least I didn't I didn't see him get many opportunities to do anything special, man Uh, who was the best wide receiver? Uh, it was Boykin Miles Boykin he was So everything that you've been hearing on twitter and stuff. Oh, it's true Miles Boykin has looked really really good. Um, but again, it's just training camp. Let's see if he does it in the game Um, they got this hotel set up like a little studio. They must they must have a lot of people that do like videos come here, man They got a little light and stuff By the bed because they know they're gonna you gotta set up for a live stream But anyway, do you think Boykin is going to start? I don't know. It's it's too The reason I say, um, I don't know is because if it was based off of training camp and this where we saw these past couple days I say yes No Without a doubt Yes, he will be a starter But we got to see this in regular games too. So preseason will be a start for this So we'll see Hey, nice to meet you too. Tony appreciate you man. Um Um What other receivers that I think we we got everybody, right? West Westley looked he looked he looked up and down. Um He I think he just need more chance to show what he can do He didn't look special or anything, but let's let's see again games, man Uh, we got to see games now. Ain't nothing Chris, right? There ain't nothing. Um Yeah, I guess that's that So that's offense. We got all the offense, right? Who would be my starter wide receivers based off of these past couple days? uh Boykin um Seth Roberts and Willie Snead That would be my guys Boykin and Seth Roberts on it. Actually they they moved Seth Roberts on the inside too now So Boykin my number one Seth Roberts and Willie Snead alternate from the outside in the inside, man So from the outside guy in the slot guy, they alternate that so those will be my starters right there. Um, if it was based on what we saw So Oh, and and my next guy on it on the chart will be Jalil Scott And the next guy after him It's a free fall. So I guess you throw chrismo right there. I don't know But again, that's just based off of these past two days from what I saw From what I saw. What's up, J-ho? I just want to say lastly in Jalen jalen smith No way. They're making the team yikes yikes The longest y'all's player had a better line than ours The chrismo drop pat. I didn't see him drop any passes. I didn't see him drop any passes so um Jalen Ferguson didn't see him uh I didn't really see him do much. Um I saw a lot of 45 on the side, but again, I mean they were rotating. They were doing like first second team stuff. Um, but I didn't what's up raging bean. I didn't really see him too much uh, jerald willis He he was working with like that. I think like the second third team a lot Uh, and he didn't really get to do too much. He wasn't out there that much But yeah, he didn't get to do too much. I was actually talking with his dad yesterday Um, so shout out to his dad. I don't know if his dad is in here right now, but shout out to you. Um I hope to see you in miami. Yeah, I know. Yeah, you say you coming to miami for the game. So I see you there. Uh Pierce Pierce was out there. So that was good, uh, brandon wales. He was out there having fun He caught a pass today Um, but he caught a pass that somebody threw and it went to the sideline. I don't remember if it was lamar trace but um Yeah, it it it went to the sideline, man uh again pass rush the D the D line they They were stopping to run pretty good for the game. It's it's practice and it's it's so hard to really gauge the offense and defensive line, man It's it's it's at least for me. It's been really hard to gauge them because You just don't feel like they really given everything Because it is practice and these are not against opponents and You just really don't know how much of themselves they're really showing man. Um Oh, you live eight minutes or eight minute drive for hard rock. Oh really? Oh, you and miramar? That's what's up, man um Or are you just in that the that part of miami because it's so close to that uh that borderline between Miramar and miami. It's like right there, man um but anyway You can't really grade the corners because the practice is kind of geared toward the offense Yeah, it's it's it's really hard for them to me. Um, it's really hard for them to Uh, but yeah for the offense and defensive line That's it's just really gonna have to wait till like pre-season really regular season two because you know Ravens They like shifting stuff. They like Ravens love They love going with the offensive line and pre-season and then switching it for the for the first game in a regular season They always do that So let's see what they do this year. Willy Henry. I forgot about him. I don't even know if he practiced or not I think he did though because they didn't say anybody was missing besides Hollywood and I think yonder didn't practice today, but he practiced yesterday and then teite Um teite he practiced yesterday, but they said he got banged up. So he ain't practiced today. Um So we'll see Tristan say oh shout out the trip Shout out to Tristan because Tristan Tristan be everywhere, man Tristan be everywhere Tristan be on these light He ain't been on these live streams in the videos for a very long time now And then when I made the facebook I'll be seeing Tristan in there I'll be seeing him in different Ravens groups and stuff. So shout out to you Tristan Appreciate you man Well, you say for you to say more ups and downs with certain players makes me optimistic since it's only day four or five A training camp it will be special when everything starts clicking. That's a real good point, man That's a real good point because yeah, it is early And that is something that we do have to uh, remember Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. That's a good point too. He said the real deal happens under under the tent and in the clothes practices Exactly Exactly So these are just like baby practices, but the real stuff that's that's closed off that we can't see Yeah, that's That's when it's that's when it's something serious. Um, but it's all good, man. Um So, yeah, we'll see how it goes Linebackers, um Mate, maybe I missed something Again, okay, none of the linebackers really stood out to me that much. Um, but I was doing a lot of talking to me So what's up, Rashid? Shout out to Rashid, man Meri Merishi yesterday That dude he was cool, man. He's good people man. So shout out to you, man. Um So who else who else who else Cornerbacks, like you said, it's it's it's hard to judge them, but Cornerbacks jimmy looked a little bigger to me Like a little like he just looked a little bigger up top to me Like most of why is a little bit but not like crazy big or anything like that um Tim William, yeah, he did show a little bit of flashes, but he's been he's been doing that. He's been doing that Even in the real games too, but hopefully this year he don't get hurt again because last year the same thing with Tim Williams He'll show some flashes. He'll be getting back there and whatnot But then like last year he got hurt. He had an ankle injury and then by the time he was healthy again It just it wasn't any room for me. There was no space for him, man Say Marlon out there looking like a fullback Deshaun Elliott, um He got I think he got caught on today by somebody But he he looked he looked fine too um Earl Thomas, he gave the little hit yesterday a little tackle yesterday to What rookie did he give that to was it Wesley? Or was it what I forgot who what which rookie he gave the little tackle to the hit tackle, whatever um, Tony Jefferson, he hit somebody yesterday too and Somebody told me that they they felt like they saw Tony Jefferson walking with a little bit of a limp yesterday but I didn't see it today. So maybe he was just tired or something. I don't know. Oh, it was boykin that he hit yesterday. Cool, man What's going on two nine nine five been pretty good. I'm pretty busy, but pretty good, man Appreciate you asking. What's up, Bradley? Oh, it was Wesley. It was Wesley Oh, now you're saying tj hit boykin Anyway, somebody a rookie a rookie wide receiver got hit. We're just uh, that'll clear it up for us Um, now you're saying this monster. I think y'all just throwing all the rookies up there Uh, so yeah That's uh, that's pretty much it man Oh, see, okay Jerome said it's monster smash status number 14 and that's monster. Okay.  Um Just like whatever quarterback is next that they signed Uh, he's just gonna be there for a little bit who wants my parking pass for tomorrow if you want to attend Uh, I'm not gonna make it. Oh that was that you that hit me up on twitter About so real quick if anybody does is there's any Only serious people because you know, some some people would just try to try to take it just so they can have it Oh, look, hey, I got a parking pass for training camp now. No, no, no, no If somebody really actually wants to go to the training camp tomorrow and you live here You live here and you can go you are able to go There's there's somebody that has a parking pass available If you really want to go you can go they have a parking pass available But only if you are able to make it you don't don't don't take the parking pass and be like oh Um, you don't don't hold it for show don't hold it so you can print it out and and put it in a picture frame And put it on your wall. I've got a Ravens parking pass if you can actually go I'm gonna take it if you can't go don't waste anybody's time, please But if you can actually go Let me take it Hey, can you um Can you email me? Uh, I'm I don't think I'm gonna take it. Um but Oh kishon you can go Oh, they were there you go, man. Um if you Send me a dm on twitter Send me a dm on twitter. I know you had um I know you had tweeted me earlier But send me a dm on twitter so I can get you connected with kishon, man Because I you didn't got to put no information on here. Um, just send me a dm on twitter So I can get y'all connected so you can give it to him because I I know I know him So he he's seriously take it and he ain't gonna waste the time. So yeah, there you go. Boom. That was quick. So, um What else what else Trying to think of of anybody else who may have stood out No I didn't really know this brand didn't call either. But that's a good thing because if you don't notice a corner back um No, I didn't get a code if if you don't notice a corner back then that's that's a good thing because that means they're not getting Picked on they didn't move them at that safety a little bit. Kennedy. I saw him off and on the field a little bit. Um Cyrus jones Again off and on the field a little bit um Said jb this movie showing off them parking passes called us good. Appreciate you asking, man Um, justice hill He was fast fast The fast fumbler. Well, he only fumbled that one time today. But um How is lamar? Oh, this must be for all the late people, man, but it's all good. Um Lamar now, he didn't see too much of Willis, man Didn't see too much of him Lamar he was he was up and down like I said earlier. It was more ups than downs Um, but when it was down it could be weighed down It could be down to the ground if you do passing the dirt it could be down If you do pass way to the sideline and nobody was over there um But for for the most part for the most part he does definitely definitely looks improved um And just definitely looks more comfortable. He looks comfortable um Yeah, he did hold on he ain't dropped the ball monster did not drop the ball So he he ate that hit And he he he kept it tight ends look really good number 85. I don't know who that is. I gotta check I got like And I know some of y'all do too Oh, yeah, jacobi jones yesterday at the open practice that dude was on something I I told people like that he ain't got to take the drug test no more So that's why he was like that that dude was he was out of there, man Y'all remember that little dance he would do and he would do all like all that and stuff He was doing that but he was doing it like just like that a slow slow slow slow slow slow slow motion slow motion and It was like wow. Yeah, he was going and when he was talking y'all remember how jacobi jones used to talk he used to talk like fast He used to talk fast. He used to be like a little mumbling or whatever, but he used to talk fast But yesterday when he was talking he was like Like it was going so slow, man. It's dude. He was out of there, man I know he was out of there and then he was even dancing too And this he ain't want to dance because we all remember jacobi jones from always dancing and stuff This uh, no that that wasn't called father time That's that's father not keeping it clean and doing stuff where he ain't keeping it clean That that no that was no father time So yeah, no, he was he was out of there, man. He was out of there. Oh, he was he was going, man jones was going Like that dude he was he was going Oh, Charles Charles scoff That's the tight end because he he had some drops today. He had a couple drops They like two in a row, but yeah, he had some drops and But then he he did make a catch I think to make up for but he he was struggling on some drops early today uh Justin Tucker Justin Tucker, I don't know what was going on with him yesterday Maybe he was having flashbacks to the Saints game. I don't know or maybe even the playoff game where he missed the field goal But he he did he had a few misses He had a few misses But for the most part he was on point Um, but he had a few misses. I skipped over bows in the linebackers um I didn't skip the linebackers not the inside one. I just said nobody's really stood out to me. Um But definitely yeah, definitely saw 40. I mean definitely saw 48 and 49 out there a lot more than 48 and 40 um And wow what? Our linebackers all all got them ugly linebacker numbers those 40s I just realized that Shane Ray, I didn't see much of him today. Maybe I just missed him Um, I saw some more of him yesterday. He's running with the second team. He didn't look bad He didn't look bad. Um Yeah, he didn't look bad Oh, yeah, this is Shane Ray. He wasn't like that, but he didn't look bad but um They just like the pass rush nobody from pass rush really stood out Nobody stood out Even in real AK say Lamar's development seems to be where I expected to be still got some ways to go He ain't got some ways to go, man But it was definitely uh, it was definitely progress though A lot of progress from um from from last year. Uh, he just seems to be Um, it seemed to be a little more more decisive um And more confident to more confident in his throws Um, the some of his deep passes like I say more so yesterday Uh, the deep passes were more of an issue than they were today um, but Yeah, he he just seems a little more confident in his throws Um, oh, yeah, Sam Cooke looked fine. Oh, but and Vedvik Vedvik was back too Vedvik now, um With Vedvik I was just talking about in a group chat earlier Um, and because somebody like she mentioned it earlier this week I forgot who it was but that thing with the whole thing with Vedvik Um, how that that may that may have been They may have they may have okie-doked everybody Think Ravens may have okie-doked everybody because you know John Harbaugh if he want to stash somebody He want to see he want to stash somebody um And with Vedvik he came out. He was looking good and the Ravens like wait a minute This dude can kick ampunt. Oh, we got to try to get some form But they might realize hey, we might not get none for him. We want to stash him So what we gonna do injured reserve well You know what let's make up a story about him getting jumped put it out there in the media anyway anyway, um He he looked good He looked good.  I always forget how to say his name Julius now it's all good man Almost look like you were yelling they may not want to pay Sam cook all the big bucks Not so good man. Hey there. Hey there's a good man. You look good cook Will hill was a beast.  See that's why I love y'all man That's why I love y'all man because if if I'm slipping on something which I pretty usually much Usually pretty much always them y'all will fix it y'all fix it right away. Appreciate that. Thank you very very much So Sam cook When is even more she's gonna fake a hammy injury so he can get a stash there's no Yeah, I don't think he's gonna make it either on the actual active roster. I think they Practice squad and reserve. Yeah, whatever. Um, yeah, I don't think he Cuz like what what's he gonna do? Because Raven's got like six 62 corners right now. You know like 62 corners Like in four of them are locks That's jimmy smith marlin. Humphrey Brandon calling uh, taevon young So it's like you you you got those four Avery been he been getting a lot of highlights caught on. What's up juice?  You got those four corners and then after that You got anthony avert. I really don't see them cutting him. You never know, but I really don't see you got canady for now But you did sign just in Bethel So yeah, there goes another one Like you got like 80 you got like 80 corners, man You got like 80 corners and then you got even marshal. You still got cyrus jones, too It's a lot back there. You still got stanley gene baptiste Even though I don't think he's gonna make it Shout out to him, but I don't think he's gonna make it No, NFL is here. It is here Um, it's here training camp is here. It's here The the injuries have been here. It's here And that that first preseason game August 1st or hall of fame game In the first preseason game, I think like the six something like that Um Justin Bethel and cyrus jones and special teams do they don't really play corner But that's what i'm saying But they are corners and they special teams guys. So even marshal ain't got no room There's no room Yeah, I use the ravens and mad I use a couple different teams and mad. I had used the ravens. I used the browns He's a cowboys I think Maurice Kennedy won't make the team. Yeah, I don't either Do you think chicas could be an NFL quarterback? I think he already might be in the making Regular season starts september 8th Hold up, but don't they do the game like on like the thursday before or something like that? I believe the opening game When it's the opening game Preseason is two hours. Can't we talk about? You lost me with that one season PS4 game attack is uh engraving white tee Make Justin Bethel and cyrus jones kickers. Oh, yeah, I wonder if chicas got into your account Oh Chuck clock the shine elliot. Um They appreciate that frank. Jalil Scott had he look um He looked good He looked good. He he was catching everything. He wasn't dropping um, but he he just He looked good. He just he didn't um He didn't make too many plays, but when he did make some plays he looked good. He was on point um The thing was just miles miles working just was still in the show. He was just still in the show Um, somebody asked about somebody else though one second Oh Chuck clocking the shine elliot is damn you um The shine elliot Up to speed look ready. He just he just seems so ready. He looks like he just really wants to play you man He looks like he really wants to play Working trace out at receiver special team. They didn't show any of that so But yeah, he he looks like he just really really wants to play um He looks like he just he just ready. I appreciate that jay hall. Thank you, man. Thank you Appreciate that a lot, man But yeah, he just looks ready man. No a.j. Green.  I was like, uh But it sound like they were like I'm not cheering for the injury. What's up, uh Uh missus missus a rat How was gusts and tucker? Um gusts he he had a he had a burst. He had more of a burst to him man He looked quicker, especially with the weight loss um So yeah, he he looked good, uh Justin Tucker He he he had it in early today. He wasn't out there for too long today But yesterday for the most part he was good. He did miss a few kicks though miss a few field goals a j overrated except when he played us No Raven fan can ever call a j green overrated he definitely um He hurts though. He like he he is that team that team goes how a j goes so I gotta start looking for a replacement He comes back or not. They gotta start looking for the next guy man. Gotta start looking for the next guy, man got to because these injuries are They they keep coming They keep coming What about Tim Williams and bowser will they make a return? Right now, I don't see bowser making I don't see him making the team um I just I want to get to preseason, man The reason I say Tyler Boyd is not a j greens replacement. He's not he's not a bad receiver, but he's not a j greens replacement um with uh I just want to see preseason, man Because this yeah, very thirsty. I'm actually about to drive to wendy's and go get another drink I thought I had got enough drinks, but I'd be drinking a lot man because I went to wendy's last night And got a strawberry lemonade and I got a fruit punch I drunk all the strawberry lemonade, but I still had some fruit punch left, but I drunk it earlier today And then I went to wendy's again today just to get drinks because I got pizza and and carry out too. So I went and got uh another strawberry lemonade and then there's tropical berry lemonade some and I'm almost done with the strawberry with the strawberry lemonade And I already drunk the the fruit punch in the berry lemon anyway. Um Yeah, AJ green is he's the injury prone now. He got that label now. He got that label now Yeah, that's him. That's him on twitter. That's him Oh, see y'all y'all already got it handled them. Perfect. That's him though Sorry, I just joined in it may have been discussed, but can you see daily Mac making a cut? You just got to see him in preseason because the past two days he ain't doing anything But he was on the sidelines a lot. So I didn't really see him. I didn't really get to catch him that much. So Yeah, I just got to hope that in uh In um in the preseason he could show his stuff So in the same way with Gerald Willis, he wasn't out there like even Michael Pearson, Brandon Williams They were out there, but I I didn't they didn't like stand out or nothing, but what's up Logan?  Yeah week three. Yeah It's all good I ain't I ain't mad that we got to face Tyreek Like like what what I was talking about about the fans earlier when they were talking about aj bring It's like they they were like excited that he probably won't play in the Ravens game And while that does help the Ravens a lot At the same time, it's like you want you want the best of the well me You want the best of the best out there Morgan Cox went in early He with him Justin tuck and sam cook they all went in early today Um, but his his his long stamps where they were on point. So morgan cox was good um Jaylen smith joe horn jordan lassie none of them balled out None of them if I had to rank them in order from worse to first Uh, jordan lassie would be worse then Oh Jaylen smith, uh, then the jordan lassie then joe horn jr. You didn't Jaylen smith Jordan jaylen and jordan No, jordan jaylen and joe Three jays here we go um, but yeah I I do want to get to preseason so we can actually see the past russian see What they're gonna be because we don't have any idea about them right now.  He wanted them at their best But either way, it's just it's just not the same like I feel like Jordan lassie made the team I I don't see that right now but Raven's missing cj mosey. Why you say that? How you gonna beat the best if you don't play the best?  I know some people be like, oh, yeah No, I don't yeah, hopefully you won't make it an all game but No, man, it's it's more fun And it's more of a satisfying victory too if your team Can beat a team and that team is at their best, especially if they're a really good team Because we've all had they've been plenty of ravens wins when We might have we faced a team and yeah, we won so we happy that we won but at the same time I was like, oh, well this guy didn't play Oh, well that guy didn't play and we'll still take it because the winners are winning the win obviously helps but The more satisfying wins. It's like, yeah Oh, yeah. Oh, we won that game. Yeah, we won that game With all of that whole team on there, but anyway What about mark andrews and hayden hearse and the cj boy getting pushed for the start? All the titans they look really good. They look really good. Um Lamar especially mark andrews the most he was talking out with him a lot man. What's up, b Cj a beast that's a loss for your defense Yeah, cj is cool. He is cool But let's let's give the new guys a chance to and really see If the ravens will suffer or not without a cj mozer In and because I understand cj mozer is really good really smart Well, let's let's see if these how these guys do because I was talking to um I don't know if I was talking to quincy or dimitri, but I was telling them that the ravens have They haven't been in a position where the With a their inside linebacker sucks They haven't been there Ray Lewis All the guys that feel them for Ray Lewis when he got hurt Um Daryl Smith then cj mozer boom They have never been in a position. What's up, Kevin? They have never been in a position where the inside linebacker sucked So and and while there may be Drop offs so to speak But the drop offs haven't been like concerning drop offs man So Is what it is man Let me get caught up man peanut made the most place we talking about like So you talking about training camp or what are you talking about Mike? Like you never said next man up. Yeah, there's next man up. It's boy living up to the height I didn't see anything special, but maybe again, maybe I missed it I know they've been a lot of talk from the reporters about cj board and stuff. I I didn't see him out there a lot but let's see Ishmael said yes, can't wait for the preseason. I believe the ravens will surprise a lot of people this year Hopefully that surprised him in a good way Uh, Mark Andrews gonna eat mosey when we play the Jets. Oh, that's gonna be a personal game for mosey I think mosey well, he gonna try to show out that game. I really think he is man I just said I'm really interested in how we hold up at center. We're still not sold or solid there serviceable but not solid Yeah, we got scur, bozeman Let's see. How is trace mcswally? He was he was all right. He wasn't bad He was like great anything. He wasn't bad. What's up, Kevin? Um, he was cool. Yeah, he wasn't he wasn't bad Season say we not talking about a game, but practice shout out to allen averson CJ was horrible in past coverage He's still really good linebacker. That was his downfall right there But he was still Excuse me.  Maybe tomorrow We'll see how long it takes Almost got a little carried away on the video early about josh johnson because I was talking like they had signed him already almost but I had to remember like hold up No, it was just a workout. It didn't sign anybody yet. So we're gonna see you, man Saying said I'm concerned about the offensive interior lineman. Yonda is good. I don't know about Who oh he don't know about no Stanley's good Sammy good um The right side was straight Uh, because it's Orlando brown jr um Marsha yonder Then sinner scur for now Uh, then the left side Ronnie Stanley is good. Um Then left guard Left guard and sinner But whether the left guard is is james hurst alex louis Um, I would think as of right now You give it to James Hurst Um, I want been powers. I want to see what ben powers can do but They usually for offensive line Ravens go with the veterans The experienced guys But is the browns hype getting to me getting to me at like like how what do you mean? As far as getting to me man out of co-capped chuck lock into sharn elliot. Who's not making it? But what we only got five safeties though, but I mean still Ah, maybe they all make it So yeah, because early time it's tony jefferson. They obviously locks, but Levine chuck claw to sharn elliot. I feel like oh, I feel like you can't you can't cut levine But that's a mix of emotion and uh his play tony jefferson I think a lot a lot of him talking all the talk he did and sticking up for the ravens That kind of like saved him um Chuck chuck claw. Yeah, people can say chuck claw, but they they like chuck clock a lot and they uh They played him a lot like he was the one that stepped in last year and uh, what's they ain't got hurt tony jefferson But at the same time, uh, the sharn elliot was out But I think they'd groom in the sharn elliot for tony jefferson's role um for the future, but um I guess if I had to choose, it'll be uh chuck It'll be chuck, but I don't like the browns getting over hype I mean They I mean, of course, they're gonna be hype right now because they they made like 50 000 moves It's a really good moves too and their team want to come up. So I don't Yeah, they've been hype, but hold on Oh, y'all can see my shoulder. Wow.  Wow um Do you think judan is going to take off this year? No I don't um I just don't think he's a special player. That's why I don't um, I woke up your dog. Oh man. You gotta tell your dog Go back to bed, man I don't think he's he's not a special player to me. I don't think he's a special player. Um That's I don't think they should they should throw the bank at him and I'm Oh Appreciate that man John Moore, man Freaking John Moore. Well, I appreciate that man CJ Boyd shown CJ Boyd um Yeah, I just I don't feel like he Yeah, I just don't feel like he's special, man Yeah, I ain't got nothing against him. I just I just don't feel like he's special to me I don't Thank you John Moore appreciate that again, man um And we we're gonna see we're gonna see because Now he won't have any sugs on the other side and We're gonna see Do you think Tony Jefferson won't lose part of his finger while playing this season? What What does that mean, man? judan does a lot out there though like like what? He's not he's not a bad player but I just I just don't feel like he's he's the guy. He should be throwing that money yet. That's my opinion but Brandon Karr, you're gonna catch a one-handed interception on Odell. He better He better because you know You already know and it's gonna go through all of our minds, too They played it.  They're gonna say, please pass rush. Please get to make up my field So he doesn't even have time to throw this But again not Brandon Karr not bad now though So I want to make it I want to make it seem like that and even if um You know what even if he got lost by Odell again I would not mind as long As there was the same results as the when he lost Odell and they made him famous Ain't no hollywood update right now. Still he's still on the same Ain't nothing and nothing new happened um But as long as it's the same results As when he lost him and became famous off of most of them That's fine But Karr didn't even give up a touchdown last year How much cast race would Ravens have next year? It's too early. We won't know It's way too early That catches history everybody doing. Yeah, man. We're having the Jimmy Smith. What do you mean? He doesn't have until now. I want to see Marvin against Odell. He's gonna get into his head.  It's gonna be cool, man. It's new season It's gonna be something man 100 mil. Oh, I don't know about that 100 mil part I think I mean they just gave out a couple contracts. They're still gonna give out more contracts and Other people might still get signed. We'll see They may do a big trade or something. We'll see um, but The the reports and stories and stuff from like last season said, oh, yeah, we're gonna have 100 million in cap space, but it's It's it's no way to tell that So It took a lot of the defense a year to jail. There's gonna be some stumbles in phisopanic. Miami is trapped I'll Miami that that game like the more that I think about it, man It does worry me like I said, especially if it's Patrick play is the starter um I I still think we're gonna win either way um, but it it's just Oh, yeah, first game of the season teams ain't rolling yet But the one thing the one thing we do have which is good, um, is that we may not be rolling yet But they may not be rolling yet. So It could help us out too Marlon Humphrey was fine. He um He almost jumped the Lamar pass that was intended for because it was him versus Seth Robbins 101 and Think yeah, Seth Robbins ran about Hmm, maybe 10 12 yards Didn't cut out But then Marlon jumped it So You want Marlon on Odell you probably get your wish or Jimmy Smith? Let's see Let's see but Either way You think Shane Ray looks good. I didn't really see as much as Shane Ray over the past couple days So I I can't say But again Yes, all preseason games NFL worker. Oh NFL Network of local stations. Oh, somebody asked about the preseason games um Not well, it depends on where you live where you live will determine what preseason game you get So You may just have to if you not not staying in Maryland. You're not staying in It's close to Baltimore than you uh You may be better off Getting on the stream. Well, you may have no choice but to watch it on the stream so All right forbidden appreciate you man. Thank you Have a good night, man But yeah, you You might not be able to see Who had the first team reps on the opposite side of judo? Wow, that's a good question. Who did? Yeah, I think it was Tim Williams Or was it I honestly don't remember Do they have preseason games on ESPN? Yeah They do Like they have what is one preseason game per week on ESPN On my lunch break Oh, Baltimore is good, man. It's everybody's been it's been really good. This is all right. LaVarcy, man This has been a really really good trip. It's been a very tiring trip, but it's been a very good trip. Um and Just got to see a lot of people from team keep it clean, especially yesterday Just a lot of people man. It's crazy, man It's been cool, man it's been cool Hey, no problem, sir. You appreciate you man. You have a good night.  Shout out to uh, shout out to my phone because Again, I was worried about streaming because I well, I didn't know how long it was gonna last because my phone Well service in the parking lot sucks. I'm out. All right. Cool, man. Enjoy your enjoy the work, man um I wasn't sure how long my phone was gonna last. Oh, it's good. Oh, wow. It is 12 before wow Oh, no, I ain't nothing man. I ain't nothing this man. Appreciate you watching. No, man Um, yeah, they showed out jeff. They showed out for that stadium practice Um Yeah, uh reddit.com slash r slash nfl stream Man But yeah, my phone uh, it lasted the whole time it did not uh, it came through It came through Uh, I didn't expect it to I was hoping that it did but I didn't expect it to but it's all good, man It's all good You live in Florida, so you'll be able to watch the first free season game. Oh always against jacksonville Okay, cool, man. That's what's up. Anyway I'm gonna go ahead and get off of here now It's 12 o'clock um Yeah, I love y'all I appreciate y'all. Thank you all for watching. Thank you all for coming through. Um This was fun This is fun red heart is a Ravens fan I didn't know that if that's true, so y'all have a really good night um Appreciate it. Yeah, leave a like on the video. We had like a hundred 160 or something like that. We had a good amount of people in here, but so it's only 72 likes No, nobody likes leaving a like on it. Nobody likes pressing the thumbs up, but I don't know why man, but it's all good man Appreciate y'all love y'all again if anything Just send me a dm on twitter and instagram or snapchat Or my email or whatever Y'all know how to hit me up any more questions. I'll talk to you through there And I'm out if I can remember how to shut this thing. Damn. Oh, it's the x. All right


I'm Mike Davis. I'm here to talk about hacking or hacker ref. Can you hear me now? Yeah, okay I'll just shout a bit. I'm a little bit hungover and I got a bit of a cold so you know my voice is a bit deep but yeah so I'm talking about hacking or hacker ref. Basically the idea is to show you guys how to take a hacker ref apart a little bit and maybe modify it and make it do some things it's not supposed to which is kind of cool. I'm Elastic Ninja on Twitter, Mike Davis, doing a masters in information security and yeah I love hacking stuff. I've done a lot of hardware talks and I built this badge as well so yeah you talk to me about that later if you want. Okay so what is a hacker ref? So I've actually got my hacker ref apart on the table in front of me here and it's a pretty sketchy set up there but that's a hacker ref pretty much open. It's a software defined radio and you can get it from Great Scott Gadgets. It's quite a nice accessible device. It's $330 I think and it's open source hardware which is why I get all excited about it. So one of the fun things about a hacker ref if you want to change it is actually taking it apart. The first time I did it there were a lot of bad cracking noises and I actually broke the case. I used the tool on the left and if you go search on the internet there's quite a few talks about how to actually do it the proper way and the best way is to use Jared Boone Sherbrain's little guitar pick and he's got a very specific type so you can just go buy one at the store and the thing just pops open. So he's actually done a 10 second video on it so that's what you can look at. So here's a map of the world of the internals of the hacker ref. On the top right hand section is just RF and dragons and like don't fiddle there. There's not a lot you can do in there but you can change it in software so that's the interesting part but I'm going to focus on the other side of it which is basically everything from the RF section onwards. If you go have a look at the baseband header you can get the raw 20 mega sample megahertz rather a baseband both the transmitter and the receiver is in there. The only problem I have with that header is I don't think it's a good RF header so you probably if you want to do something with that you probably want to replace it or maybe put something with better contacts in it. This is the CPLD it does a lot of the heavy lifting decimation and moving the data from the so I didn't mention the front end which is the little chip on the bottom left there and that samples the raw baseband and turns it into digital data so that's actually the bit that you can see the digital part of the STR. So the CPLD is kind of like a I like to call it a weak FPGA but that's not really what it is. It's a logical device. You can program it to map I mean in this case I think it's mapping pins between the front end and the actual processor.  And then you've got the actual micro control itself with all the headers and that's the bit that's pretty interesting for me and if you take a look at this this is a great fat so they've actually chopped the hacker up in half and just given you that bit on the left there in a slightly different format and slightly different chip as well.  I think they've done a lot of talks on like infrared and all that kind of thing and basically you can also use it for as a kind of logic analyzer as well if you want. So that's quite a cool thing. So most of the work I've done has been in this little section here. It involves a lot of this kind of thing. Breadboards and little wires sticking all over place. I've seen someone did a very nice PCB to join two hacker refs together. It was an academic project and I'll try and find that link but it's really cool what they did. They worked on the CPLD side and modified that to synchronize two hacker refs. I focused on the process aside and I failed. So anyway I had a good time doing it. So like I said before one of the great things about the hacker ref is that it's open source hardware. They publish all the schematics and you can go have a look through it and really you can go to Michael Osmond's GitHub and just have a look at the, have a look at an Kycat. So when you're opening Kycat that's the kind of view you get. You can see all the traces between the different components and if you do a little bit of work you can just get rid of all the layers that you don't care about and instead focus on the processor and the headers for this particular thing. The datasheet for the processor that they use is really hard to, like if you look for the pin outs it's somewhere in the middle of the document and I can never find it. I wanted to put it on the page here but basically most of the pins that you would be interested in are actually mapped to the headers. So the question is is it just open source hardware and are multiple manufacturers manufacturing it? So Grace Scott gadgets designed it and make it and I believe there's a thing called a blue RF or something like that which is cheaper and uses cheaper components and breaks more often and occasionally if you ask them very nicely they'll fix it for you but I wouldn't recommend using it especially because it's literally a clone that's using cheaper parts. So I'd rather support Grace Scott gadgets but I mean you could make it yourself. So I talk a little bit later about what I want to do and how I want to change it and so I'll be kind of, I'll be making a few myself and then making it open source as well. Yep. Um, okay so it's got a, I didn't put the name on it. LPC 4320 is on the hacker app. Like I said that datasheet is terrible in terms of just trying to find the pin outs. Usually it's the first 10 pages but in this case I checked last night I couldn't actually find it. Um, but it has everything you need in there for to do what you want to do. It's got two cores in it. It's got an M4 which is a reasonably powerful kind of processor and then it's got a little M0 sitting on the side. Um, that is, it's kind of difficult to get them to communicate but you can actually pass data between them. So that's useful for things like driving displays and doing all that kind of thing. While the main processor does a lot of the hard work. Um, as I'll show you later, uh, there's DMA in the, you know, as you'd expect from a one processor. And a lot of the hacker apps, uh, the main loop in the hacker app doesn't actually do anything. So most of the work is done in DMA. So if you want to fiddle in there it's a little bit of assembly and that kind of thing. So, but it's not a lot of code. Um, it can drive an SD card. It can drive ethernet. It's got ADCs and DACs. So you can do things like sample microphones and output speakers and that kind of thing. That's pretty cool. Uh, and it's got all the rest of the kind of things you may expect. Um, just quick overview of all the different headers. Um, there's, there's four headers. There's P22, it's got stuff like the clocks and, uh, SPI you can see on the bottom left there. Um, I don't folk, I don't use this very often. Uh, P28 headers. These are all the ones that are surrounding the actual processor. Um, again this is, uh, SD card stuff. Um, there's your baseband header. And like I said, I'm not sure, I haven't tried it, but I'm not sure that that's actually, I'm not sure that you'd actually be able to get the quality of signal that you want out of it, but I, like, I haven't really tried it. So, um, yeah. And this is the one that I normally, I normally play with. It's got a whole bunch of things. It's got the, um, you can get, uh, put voltage into it. You can get voltage out of it. Uh, a lot of ground pins and a whole bunch of GPI opens that are kind of useful. Okay, so the firmware is also open source. So you can just go to Michael Osman's, uh, uh, get a repo and you can play with the firmware. Um, so as I said before, the typical main loop is just setting up, uh, USB mainly. And then, um, and then just sitting in a while, true. So it doesn't really do a lot. Normally I take this out and replace it with something else. Um, and in this case, I want to show off a little, the typical kind of hello world, which is a blinky light, blinky LED. I believe so, but I'll tweet them out. Elastic Ninja. Make it easy. Have you got it? Yeah. Okay.  So general purpose eye opens. Um, in this case, it's neatly wrapped up in, uh, for the, uh, anyway, they've got three LEDs in the front of the hacker app. So this is neatly wrapped up in a little LED on, LED off, and LED toggle. And, uh, and so you can literally just, for hello worlds, replace the, the whole main loop with just LED on, delay for half a second, LED off, and delay again. And, uh, I'm going to try my best not to break this. So you can see the green light, I hope, and that is currently blinking. Um, so that's basically that code there, just, um, just blinking every half second or so. Okay, so when you program the device, um, normally there's the hacker or SPI flash, and that just interacts with the USB and then pushes that, uh, pushes your, your binary into the flash chip. And then it, you know, as soon as you reboot, it loads off that and it's fine. But I tend to remove the USB handling because most of what I'm doing doesn't actually have USB attached to it. Um, so after breaking the USB, you have to use DFU util. And it's super easy to just push the DFU button on the, on the front, reset it, and then it's in DFU mode.  Um, getting it back is an interesting exercise in, get reset and that kind of thing. Okay, so, um, that's the typical loop that I, I mean, that's the base of the loop. So the question is, how do you break USB or why does it break? Um, uh, where was that code? So this is the actual main loop in the, in the normal code. And as you can see, there's, there's two sets of USB kind of transfer code and it runs that continuously. And as soon as you take that out, I think it's within a couple of seconds of the device, uh, it, it times out and it stops responding to USB in terms of the, the host actually, um, I forgot the word, but disconnects it. Uh, so it's very quickly not useful as a USB device. I mean, you can leave this stuff in here, um, but if there's no USB device connected while your stuff is running, weird things happen. So I, I'll just take it out. Yeah. Um, okay, so I did the Blinky demo, sorry.  You don't want to just blink an LED. Well, you may want to do that, but, um, so there's quite a few interesting other open source projects. There's the Portapak, uh, which I'll describe later. Uh, I've got a badge that I wrote, so I used some of that code. Um, and if you dig around in the Hacker App code itself, there's a lot of, uh, a lot of bits of code that actually access the, the hardware in interesting ways. So like, there's a Blinky demo in the actual Hacker App source code. So, um, you can go dig around there, have a look, but Portapak is actually the thing to look at. If you want to build something that's not a, uh, a host-based SDR, you know, or a host, a host connected SDR. Um, and I'll show you that just now. One of the more interesting things about what I've been doing is trying to power a Hacker App without blowing it up. So what I'd like to do is push it into the USB bus, um, which means that I run the risk of blowing up my computer when I program it, but if you're careful enough, you can basically power it off, uh, put, uh, five volts into the V-Bus and then, uh, it manages the rest itself. So, uh, you can even, you can't really plug a battery in there. There is actually a V-Bats, uh, pin, but I haven't tried that. I'm not actually sure what that does, but it, it says battery. Sorry? Okay. Yeah, that makes more sense. But, um, if you want it, you really need to give it five volts and then it's, everything's happy. So, um, okay. So I, I've built a, a shaky demo. It basically, um, I'll show you the code now, but it sits in a loop and it, um, it pulls, pulls the 2.4 gig spectrum into little bins and then tries to display it on my little badge here. So, I did it in my hotel room. It's a little bit sketchy, but it kind of works. Also the contrast is a bit rubbish. I don't know if you can all see that. But so in theory, that's the 2.4 spectrum, uh, just doing a waterfall down here. So again, the Portapak does a much better job of this. Um, and it's a really nice sort of, um, device. But, uh, if you wanted to put a display on, there's also display drivers, uh, on that, well there's a display, uh, peripheral on the actual hacker app as well. So you could plug that in too. Um, so this is just a bit banged SPI talking to my badge. Anyway. Um, so the reason I started all of this was I wanted to have multiple hacker apps, um, synchronized so I could do TX and RX or I could do, uh, like multiple, so the whole band of Wi-Fi or, uh, in the one case it was, uh, direction finding. So that was my actual intent and the reason I started taking my device as a part. I also have far too many hacker apps because I was trying to do that kind of thing. So, um, if you want to buy one. Anyway, um, but, uh, so it was relatively simple. It's just like basically plugging a few GPIOs in together and synchronizing the clocks. So you'll see, you'll see on the hacker app there's two ports on the back and those are for, um, for accepting or transmitting a clock. And, um, the clock in the hacker app is not that great. So it drifts a bit. I think it's a, it's just a standard or relatively standard crystal and it's got 20 to 100 ppm kind of, um, accuracy. So there are, um, changes you can make to it to get much better. So doing things like GPS and that kind of thing you can actually do with a hacker app, but you need to do a lot of work. But anyway, so, um, the problem with this approach is you've got multiple USB ports that you have to synchronize and it turns out that synchronized USB is actually a terrible idea. So it doesn't actually work, but it, uh, for very low bandwidth signals you can actually get away with it. So the difference between the time of arrival of packets and that kind of thing is actually, it's, you can get away with it, but, um, I gave up on that project. Uh, and I started thinking about cutting a hacker off in half. And, uh, so the idea is that what I want to do is take the RF section on one side, not physically cutting it, sorry. But, uh, I don't know what would happen. But taking the RF section on one side and putting the processing section on another. And then hopefully making little boards that I could plug the, uh, you plug multiple RF sections into and, and then the discussion becomes what kind of processor do you use and how do you get all that data across. So then all of a sudden I'm working with USB 3, FPGAs and that kind of thing. So, um, I've kind of, uh, kind of put it on the shelf for now, but I've still, I still dream about it. It's like something I'd really like to do. Um, and there is actually a great Scott Gadget board out there that does multiple, it can do, uh, it adds another radio section to the hacker app. Um, I've gone and forgotten the name of it. Um, but it's a work in progress and I think that might be the easier path. I'm not sure. But, um, so if you have a look around at the, uh, Michael Osmond's Github repo, you'll actually find it there. Like all of the boards, the great FETs and everything are there. So, um, if you wanted to go and make one and give me one, that'd be great. But, um, anyway, so that's a project I'm working on. Um, I also fly drones. And, uh, that's a picture of my drone hanging off a wire that I, it took me ages to get out of, get it off of there. But, um, one of my projects is actually to put hacker apps, uh, or one hacker app that I'm willing to risk onto a drone and use it in place of, um, uh, the FPV gear that I, that you can buy commercially. So, uh, the FPV gear that you can buy commercially is pretty shockingly bad stuff. Um, it's an FM modulated, um, uh, video signal and it doesn't do well with, you know, interference. It doesn't do well with the bad antenna. So I thought maybe I could do better. So I've been strapping hacker app onto it and trying to receive the signal and I'm, I'm getting somewhere, you know. But I'm, I'm always worried about that.  So anyway. Um, so all of the things I've been talking about are kind of encapsulated in the Portapak. Um, you can buy it at, uh, at the vendor area. It's got little screens, it's got buttons, it's got, um, it's got a battery, it's got all the things in there. Um, I haven't bought one because I like to break stuff myself but, uh, this thing's pretty cool if that's all you're looking for. Okay. Um, yeah. And that is pretty much my talk.