And we're displacing action for Assange. We should be coming in live. Sometimes when we're hosting, auto-hosting someone, it takes a little bit of time for the stream to kick in. And there we are. We just displaced action for Assange on their weekly live stream where they're discussing what's going on with the Julian Assange case and probably one of the, if not the most important trial of the century. And this is Chicho. Welcome to my channel. Welcome to another live stream. Today, today is February 27th, 2021. And we're doing a movie club live stream. Title of the stream. Let's talk about the movies we picked to watch on a previous live stream on December 6th. That's when we did the live stream where we decided what it was that we're going to watch. And we're supposed to pick five and we ended up picking eight. There was a lot of ties. And it's fun. I ended up doing my homework. I watched all eight movies. Definitely fun movies to watch. Some I liked way better than the others. And just to let you know what those movies were, I'm just gonna give you the list. The list of the movies that we ended up watching for this live stream were Old Boy from 2003, Blood in, Blood Out from 1993, Prisoners from 2013, The Manchurian Candidate, the original from 1962, Ford vs Ferrari from 2019, The Game from 1997, Inception from 2010, and District 9 from 2009. Those were the movies we're supposed to watch. Hello Putin roaster. How are you doing? Hope you're having a fantastic Saturday morning or evening depending on where you are. Inception is great. In the Ronnie 90 Inception, should we talk about it now? Or should we wait? Let's wait until people roll in. Opinions are welcome. Mine would be on the flip side. I thought it was the least of the eight movies we watched. People are not gonna like my my my opinion of it. Christopher Nolan classic. It was good. It was good. But it didn't... I didn't care about the characters very much. The concept was good. Cheryl, how are you doing? Good morning. Good morning. Dragons, lion, or lions. How are you doing? Hope you're doing well. Hey Chicho, how's it going? Doing well, bro. Thank you very much. Dub Weaver. Good afternoon Chicho. Good afternoon to you. How are you doing? Deckman. Hello hello and Elder God. Inception was an Elder God. I'm trying to be very kind with in people with Inception. As far as I'm concerned, Inception, I would give it a three and a half out of ten. That's what I would give it. It was it was the worst of the eight movies by a long shot. I'm with Elder God on this one but I'll give my opinion later. Sorry gang. And by the way, this is the second time I watched it, right? I watched it first when it came out in the theaters. And there was all this buzz about it. I want to watch it and I was like, damn.  Hot mom, what were you doing? Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Water, exile. Hey Chicho. Love the film chat. I recently bought the Decalogue, which is a Polish Soviet-era TV series that is outstanding. Each episode is based on one of the Ten Commandments but it's not Biblical. Seriously. Very cool. Very cool. Water, exile. What's it called again? Decalogue. Decalogue. What does that translate to? And if you're on our Discord, please, if you guys are going to recommend stuff and whatnot, post it on our Discord so we can reference it. I'm doing Great Lion Says. I almost got arrested a few days ago. Don't get arrested. Don't get into that system, man. Also, I agree. I find Inception pretentious. It was so pretentious. It was what it was. Dingbao, Chicho.  Argue. At least they've supposedly proposed a new spot for it. I bet it has to do with the neighboring golf course. Possibly. Possibly. Very unfortunate. Very unfortunate. What is that? That movie? Yeah, that sounds interesting. Or the TV series. Had to do it with the neighboring golf course. What is your fave all-time movie? I don't have a fave all-time. I have some to go to movies that I watch every few years. Hey, brother, what's good? What's good? Chicho cookies are good. Chicho cookies are fantastic. I got Chicho cookies here and some of the roasted sunflower seeds here. Blood and blood out. Oh, Padre Padre Padre Gang. Just to let you know what this is all about. I am on Patreon. Patreon.com forward slash Chicho C-H-Y-C-H-O. If you want to support this work, you want to follow this work. If you want to know what this work is about, which is layered on mathematics, you can follow work on Patreon. I don't put anything on paywalls, everything's creative columns. For those of you that were supporting this work on Patreon, gang, thank you for the support. It is in large part because of your support that we're able to do this. I personally appreciate it a lot and I'm pretty sure others do as well. Thank you. We are live streaming on Twitch.tv forward slash Chicho live C-H-Y-C-H-O-L-I-V-E. If you want to participate in the chat, Twitch is where you want to be at. For those of you that are supporting this work on Twitch, thank you very much for the support gang, for the subs, for the followers, for the conversations, for being here, for being on Discord and sharing information and mods. Thank you for taking care of business.  We do have a Discord page where people are sharing a lot of information and you can come to our chat anytime you want on Twitch and type in exclamation mark social and all the links will pop up and at the bottom there, that's our Discord link. You're welcome to join us. The deck-a-lag. I don't know what it translates to, but I believe deck translates as 10, des, dos, deck, okay. Deck translates, oh, 10 commandments, a log, maybe a log's commandments. I'll link it in, link it into Discord. Awesome. Thank you very much, WaterExha. Parler is still around. Parler came back. Hot mom. Hot mom, can't keep, can't keep altering the platform's disruptive innovation down for long. If Parler wasn't gonna come back online, then another platform would come back online to replace or offer alternatives to the technocratic censored society that some of those in the establishment want to create after. We will be uploading the audio of this live stream to soundcloud.com forward slash GCHO, C-H-Y-C-H-O as a podcast and it should be available in a favorite podcasting platform, including Spotify and iTunes. QAnon Message Board, no, not QAnon Message Board. A platform where people share information. It's like saying that certain types of people that, certain people that live on a certain street are this type of people because some people live there. It's just a platform. Platform that has promised to protect free speech. Why wouldn't you want to be there? All right. And other platforms as well. There's a few of them. Ding Bobber. I watched District 9 when it came out. Yeah, me too. Didn't watch the second time for this out, but this but I did for sure. It was so fantastic in my opinion for its time. It was mind blowing as a concept. Remind me, the aliens. Okay, by the way, gang, if you're in the stream, we're going to be talking about these eight movies. And it's a review and it's a discussion and it's full of spoilers. No, they didn't eat humans. They love cat food. Or was it a special group of criminals who ate the aliens for power? That's what it was, right? And by the way, District 9 should we talk about this role? Let me let me do this as well. We will be uploading the audio to this or the video for the stream to sensor to bit shoot and rumble if we have enough points to Odyssey as well. We don't right now. I used up all the points I had. And if you're on those platforms, you can support this work by subscribing, liking, sharing, commenting. And if you're on YouTube, they do have YouTube membership available. You can support this work through YouTube membership. Yeah, let me take these guys down. What movie are we talking about first? Should we talk about District 9? Yeah, District 9 was great. The ending was sad. Have you seen Arrival by any chance? Yeah, for sure. I put out a movie. I put a movie I put out a video regarding Arrival and their concept of time travel. If you do Chicho Arrival time travel, you'll see that video because I love the concept there. It was beautiful, right? How the time travel sequence worked for the aliens, I guess. I want a realistic and dark alien movie where the aliens are the good guys, but less fantastical, more real. Yeah. And with here, let's talk about okay gang, we're going to start with District 9. Is that cool? District 9. We're talking about District 9. Open the floor for District 9. Before I forget, District 9, the director, the reason it came to fruition, I believe the director, the people that created this concept put out a short independent section of the movie online and then people liked it a lot and they got full financing to make the full movie. As far as the ending for me, it wasn't sad. It just left the door open for District 9, too. And I think they brought it. They tried to make it or something, but I didn't watch it. Alliance. I love how Chicho says censor tube, not even as a joke anymore. It doesn't even blink, saying, no, man, that's what it is. It's disnified, right? So and we're going to treat it as a platform just like that. Like I had someone a couple of days ago post a comment saying on one of the short segments out of our current events livestream, I cut out 11 short segments and only three of them, four of them, I was willing to load on YouTube. So out of a two hour current events live stream, right? Two hour current events live stream, I was only comfortable loading on a total of four minutes of two hours or five minutes, six minutes out of a two hour live stream on censor tube. And even when I posted that on someone mentioned that, you know, they were getting annoyed at having to check out these videos through notifications and they were so short, right? My first reply was, I can't believe you're getting your notifications through YouTube or censor tube and I can't believe and the only reason we're not able to upload everything is because of the censorship on censor tube. So if you want to check out the full stuff, go to Bichute or Rumble and that goes straight up, okay? But let's talk about this trick nine, right? This was a good movie. I haven't seen it in so long. Hot Mom is worse seen again. I liked it more the second time around actually. I really liked it the first time around, but more so the second time around. Way more applicable to our current society. Ding Bobber, yeah, Chicho, I wanted a sequel so bad, so bad. He promised to come back in three years, man. It's been way longer than three years. What's the scoop? Chicho, are you talking about that guy commenting about how they didn't want notifications? I don't know if he said didn't want notifications. I think he said, you know, he was getting notifications for really short videos and I mean I loaded my shortest video ever, which was 20 seconds, 20 seconds on YouTube and salute to the other. No, Ding Bobber, I'm okay. I take everybody's comments. I read them and I don't take it to heart, but I do take the advice and I get a good feel of how the content is being consumed, if it's being appreciated, if there's confusion. I don't, I got a thick skin, man. Ding Bobber. I got a thick skin, man. I got a thick skin, and I appreciate the guy commenting whoever it was, right? Because it shows me that what SensorTube is doing is destructive to SensorTube, right? Because creators have to adjust their behavior now and treat SensorTube as not a platform where they can share everything. It's just a censored platform where you share whatever you can, right? That's it. It's not our creator's responsibility to police the platform. It's their business decision. I think it's a horrendous business decision. If I was a stockholder in Alphabet Inc and YouTube, Google, I would be selling, liquidating all of it, all of it. The decisions being made on that front are horrendous, horrendous. It is right now one of the worst managed conglomerates in the world in terms of what gave them birth, right? What brought in their revenue. Have you seen Chappy? Is that the one where it's the robot? They created a robot? Fighting robots? Chappy? I think I've seen it. Elder God, District None. Don't insult someone until you walk in their shoes. Don't insult someone until you walk in their shoes. Lions. I haven't seen this movie, but I'm not going to lie. I've only heard bad things about it. I guess I need to give it a watch. A Brother? It's a good movie. Lions. It's very good. Treat it as what it is, right? Which is an amazing story being told in a certain type of setting. I liked it. I liked it, right? I know my Alphabet skin like a honey badger. So thick and floppy that snakes can't bite it. Is that what honey badger's skin's like? Chappy has been on my list for a while. Is it good? I think I've seen it. I can't remember. Yes. 79 concess. Rupocalypse. Are YouTube notifications like emails or something? I've never bothered to turn it on since I check my sublist once a day. So I usually don't miss anything. Yeah. You turn on that bell and they send you emails of the people that you want notifications to be sent to you. Right? I haven't got because my notifications are only on for political stuff, right? And half my political stuff. I'm no longer watching on SensorTube. I'm watching on BitShoot. And BitShoot sends out all the notifications. And for the same channels, I have YouTube sensor tube notifications turned on as well, but I don't get the notifications. So I don't get notifications from SensorTube anymore about any of the channels that I've turned on notifications because it's censorship. It's blacklisting, right? Sorry. I miss you this morning. Ah, twists and no worries. I didn't think you were going to make it, man. You were supposed to give somebody a ride to the airport and then come back. It's good. It's good. It's all good. It was great. By the way, gang, just so you know, at 4.30 this morning, I've been up since like 3.30, right? That's why it's morning. I never hit the liquor cabinet in the morning, but I got up at 3.30 this morning to do a live stream with Wake the Beast for a couple hours and it was a great stream. Salute. Salute to the beast. Oh yeah, that was a beach twist. Dane Babaciccio, this summer needs at least one multiple DJ live stream, man. If the lockdowns persist, I think we'll try to get one done. Okay. Gang, any other comments about District 9? We've got eight movies to go through. Any feedback? I highly recommend it. As far as my grade goes on District 9, I give this an 8.5 out of 10. That's my rating on this. 8.5 out of 10 for District 9. You've had a connection. For me, what makes a movie just become phenomenal is that you care for the characters, right? You build a relationship to the characters, right? You participate in their struggle, okay? And District 9 hands down both the human and the aliens, okay? You care about them. Lions, 330. What are you talking about? Movies and get something? No, man. I'm good. I'm good, brother. I'm good. And we streamed last night until like 10 o'clock at night, so I love the marathons. District 9 gets a 9 for me. Ah, ding-bobber. Right on, right on. 79 con. District 9, Chappy. Elysium is fantastic, too. I recommend all of these. Very similar stories, but different settings. Yeah, Chappy, man. I got to look up Chappy. I forget what it's about. Gang, what's the next movie we should talk about? Should we go to Inception since it came up, or I'm going to make my way up according to what I have here. So, I'm giving the 8.5. Ding-bobber gives it a 9. And we're telling people, recommending people to watch it. The next movie, The Game, The Game, with Michael Douglas and Sean Penn. 7.8.75, official rating, right on. From two of the reviewers that came out. Me and Ding-bobber. Together, we give it a 8.75. 8.75. How about the game? How about the game? This one came out in 1998 or something like this, I believe. Inception came out in 2009, I believe. The pause were basically unwanted immigrants. I was watching District 9 and thinking, leave Earth. They couldn't. The spaceship wasn't working. The spaceship wasn't working. But they weren't really immigrants, or refugees. Because humans had nothing to do with them being in Johannesburg and South Africa, right? The refugees and a huge portion of the immigrants in the world, right? The refugees in the world are created by humans. So, we broke it, mentioned this before. If we break it, we own it. So, human beings that have participated in breaking certain countries, certain regions, those nations are getting the influx of the refugees coming in. District 9 was different. I think it walked a fine line. For sure it was about refugees and stuff like this. But it eliminated the responsibility of the creation of the refugees. But that's not really what present situation is or human history is. I think it was more to do of how we treat it the other, whoever the other might be, right? That was my take on it, right? Ding-Babur. Build a wall in the sky. My movie, your movie, Uncle Axe, the game. It was a great movie. And I saw it when it first came out in the theater as well. I remember a smile is cheaper than a bullet. A smile is cheaper than a bullet. The real MC Mike. How are you doing? Happy Saturday. Saturday, everyone. By the way, our neighbors downstairs, they were partying last night when we were doing our stream. They were still going until four o'clock in the morning. Right on, right on. Good Friday night party. What do you guys think about the game? I thought it was fantastic. Very well done. I give it an 8 out of 10, the game. 8 out of 10 from Chicho. I think it was a well done movie. It has a very spiritual aspect to it, right? It questions some of the belief, some of the it questions the machine of what's important in someone's life and who people are. It was sanitized a little bit. I think it could have been rougher, but it was, you know, Michael Douglas and Sean Penn, a whole bunch of high-end people at the time. The water is curious to watch the game. It's a good movie. It's well worth watching. I give it a 7.5, 8 out of 10. I'm being generous right now, giving an 8 because I want to be hard on the other one. It keeps on zapping things that are wacko. Chicho, I'm about to dip, but I'm just curious. What do you think of the Albino Envy Mushroom? I said, oh, supposedly similar to ayahuasca. I don't know about it, Ding Bobber. Diet thug. Thank you very much for the tier one sub. Cheers, brother. Cheers. And Ding Bobber, I don't know that one. All I know the price was pretty damn high, but then you told me it was a special one, so I don't know. Elder God, the game was brilliant. Very clever. Adapted story on greed can blind your emotions. Yeah, very good movie. Elder God, rating out of 10. What do you give it? Brilliant. That must be a 9 plus. What's a brilliant 9 plus? A movie can be brilliant and maybe get a 6 or 7 as well, because certain aspects would be brilliant, but I really liked the game as well. The Water Exile. If you enjoy spiritual undertones in movies, I definitely recommend Terence Malick. Oh, Terence Malick is amazing. Fantastic. He made Tree of Life, Badlands, Thin Red Line. Thin Red Line. What a phenomenal movie, Badlands. Phenomenal. Sissy Spacek and Charlie Sheen. And not Charlie. What's his name? Sheen, anyway. During it, Terence Malick, my second favorite American director. Stanley Kubrick and Terence Malick on the same level, really. But I lean towards Stanley Kubrick. All of Terence Malick's movies are amazing. Dogman 900. Yo, Chicho, smoke this weed my homie traded to soap. Got me coughing. Thank you for teaching me math, being homie. My pleasure, dogman. Lions. I got to go beer and Xbox with the boys away. Have a good evening, Chicho and Chad. You too, Lions. Enjoy the beer and the Xbox. Hope you guys kick each other's asses. Whatever game you're playing. Elder God and you don't know what you love to tell you in Mexico with no mask and no shoes. I don't think you have shoes either. Hilarious. Ding, Bob, or Chicho is supposedly three times as potent and is much more visual and deeply introspective. Cool. Take it easy, right? And this is not recommendation or anything, Ding, Bob, or right? Everybody's free to live as they want, right? Seven nine con. I was, I saw it a long time ago. Unfortunately, one of these which you can watch only once. Very good. Yeah, there's a punchline to this movie. So, but even the second time, watch, it was very good. I'd like that. Dogman. All I can think of when I see the title is the old meme. You lost the game. I don't know that one. Spectral shot. How did the talk with Wake the B-School? It went fantastic. What a nice guy. Spectral shot. We did it this morning a couple from 4.30 until like seven o'clock. So, it was like a two hour, two hour plus live stream just discussing and then taking some questions from chat of a great stream. Yeah, fantastic. Super fun. Very nice guy. Highly recommend him. Ding Bobber. I decided to stay a bit longer. Anybody here see Eraserhead? Yeah, the old one, the black and white? We should add that to the net. Well, tomorrow we're choosing the movies. Right? Lark Park. Hello, Chicho. Talking about film. Talking about film. We're talking about game right now. We've got eight movies to go through. So, I'm leaving these open for a bit for people. Talk about whatever you want to say. I give the game anywhere seven and a half to eight. That's what I'm giving the game. Okay? The Water Exile. I also love Terence Malick and Paul Thomas Anderson. Paul Thomas Anderson. I don't know which one he's made. My favorite of Anderson's are The Master. There Will Be Blood and Phantom Thread. Cool. There Will Be Blood is phenomenal. That's who it is. Thomas Anderson. There Will Be Blood is one of my top films of all time. We actually had it as to watch list. Right? Ding Bobber. I know. I know. Hell of a God. The game was the father of the movie Nerve for me with Emma Roberts, except she knew she was playing. Oh, I don't know the Nerve. David Fincher is a great director. I'm pretty sure I know David Fincher as I've seen his films. Cheryl, we haven't had a David Lynch in any movie set yet. Really? Selection Stream tomorrow. Could be a good suggestion. Yeah, let's do. Let's do. David Lynch. Which one? Which one? Maybe Firewalk with me. Oh, that could be good. Which one? Maybe Firewalk with me. I don't know that one. Lynch. One of Lynch's movies is called Maybe Fire? Firewalk with me? I don't know that one at all. And speaking of David Finch. Both Seven and Fight Club. His best work. Oh, he did those. Fantastic movies. Fantastic movies. Oh, David Lynch. So I'm reading it. Finch. I'm going. Who's David Finch? So we're talking about David Lynch. My favorite movie, lunch movie, are Blue Velvet and Elephant Man. Nice. I love Martin Scorsese. Ding Bobber. 7.5 to 8. 7.75 official rating. As nobody else voted. Yeah. If nobody's voting, voting. It is what it is. Oh, Real MC Mike. Auto Mod. It's zapping some things. Has a ton of great work. Social Network. Gone Girls. Zodiac. Oh, Zodiac too. Oh my god. Actually, I was very impressed with the company's manipulation of Nick. And it was a perfect frog in the water system. Little, little more.  This is the game. It's the Twin Peaks movie. Firewalk with me. Oh, it's the Twin Peaks movie. That's what it is. Okay, okay. David Lynch and David Fincher are different people. Oh, they are different people. Okay, okay, okay. I don't know. David Fincher. The Fincher, that didn't recognize it first or didn't recognize which movies he did. MC Mike. Hey, anybody watched the movie Hellraiser back in the 1980s? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That pinhead guy from Hell reminds me of Jeff Meese. Nice. The first appearance of Pinhead on a cover in comic book format goes for a fair chunk of money. David Finch. David Fincher. David Lynch. I'm all, I'm confused. Spectral shots. Me too. Me too. What are these all? Have you seen the Before Trilogy? Qichou. The Before Trilogy. I don't think so. It took me much longer to see than, than, than I should have. So many of my guy friends said they were romantic chick flicks, but in fact they are really profound. What are the movies called? The Before Trilogy or is that what it's called Before Trilogy? Cheryl, the game and really most of the movies in this list set had awesome cast, awesome cast. Hellraiser director by Clive Barker from the UK. David Dinsher. David Dinsher. Cheryl. Didn't know I must do an Iron Man cameo. I don't know. Was he the evil SOB? Similar names, similar names. Okay gang, we're taking the game down. Next movie coming up, Inception. 3.5 out of 10. I'm done. Okay enough Inception talk. Next movie? No. Let's talk about Inception. Before Trilogy. Before sunrise. Oh before sunset. Before midnight. I think I've seen one of these ones where I'm thinking about another trilogy which is blue, red and something else. This was a big thing. See here's the kicker. The psych test in the movie, movie were all real to establish mental health. Is that true Allogot? Inception. Inception. Inception is a beautifully immersive movie that makes absolutely no sense.  I didn't feel for them. I didn't care for them. I wouldn't be friends with them. I wouldn't even have a conversation with any of them. And that hurt because I like one of the characters in that very much. So I didn't care about any of them. There was no bond built at all for me. And I'm being generous given the 3.5. I had to stop watching it. It took me three times to sit through it. I watched it. I watched it. I was like, okay man, this is painful. And then I watched it. Some of the rest of it the next day and then some of the rest of it the third day. Inception. That must have made a cameo or an Ironman. It doesn't surprise me possibly. By Klawowski. By Klawowski. Think Bobber. I watched Inception really high.  Like it was a dream inside a dream inside a dream I forgot. I think it was a studio inside a studio inside a studio. I mean the the the action scenes and stuff were were cool. You know with the walls turning and they're doing their things stuff like this. But I didn't care. Like for me one of the fun things would have been if someone walked in with a machine gun and killed all of them. I'd be like, oh right on. This is getting better. This has turned out to be a better movie than I thought. Water Exile. Inception was too fruity and not enough Jungian. Jungian. It was also an ego triphono. Yeah it was it's like yeah I wasn't impressed. That the king the king stay that the king. The king stay the king. Yeah the plot of Inception is totally irrelevant. Christopher Nolan movies are about the cinematography. Yeah that's what it that's what it felt like. It's just man do do the writing better. Stop treating your audiences as I don't want to say garbage but as as people who are like awed by long sentences like like you want a perfect sci-fi movie. Watch Primer. Budget is like zero. The dialogue and where they take you with that concept blows away Inception right. Red, blue, white was three colored trilogy by Keloavsky. Yeah red, blue, white 79 con gang. You want to watch a trilogy which is brilliant. Okay there are multiple trilogies out there right. This is one of them. Red, blue, white. Just cinema. Just candy for the eyes. Candy for the ears. Amazing acting. Amazing dialogue. You cared about every actor in that movie in all those three movies. Just awe-inspiring right. 79 con. Do you agree? Elder God. Inception was so when I was waiting for Pinocchio to show up. Hilarious. Gina how are you doing? Elliot Page's character was basically there for exposition. I'm glad we're getting a little bit of hate for Inception. That's great. I've had more inventive dreams than Inception. I've had more inventive naps than Inception. Cheryl I can't decide if the Rubik's Cube like effects were better Inception or Doctor Strange by Longshot. Because Doctor Strange the characters were way better. Way more engaging. You cared about them a lot more. It was funner. Inception as someone mentioned was just pretentious.   I hope you all get lost in the dream and don't make it out. I went from I want to be gentle to really trash talking this thing man. Lorick Bari how about the film Heat. Heat was really good. starring Al Pacino and Robert DeNiro and don't forget Val Kilmore. Masterpiece director by Michael Mann. That was his best movie and nothing I don't think if I remember correctly nothing even came close to anything else that man had done. My inner self would have killed every character in 30 seconds.  Okay I'm out. The Dekalogue was also made by Karl Waskiew. Oh really water exhaust.  Really beautiful. I watched it. I am Polish. Ah nice 79 con. So the director is Polish. Is that what it is? I think one of the movies was set in Poland, wasn't it? Dingbao Wachicho. I just thought of an idea. We vote for pilots of TV shows of any genre to watch and it's up to you if you continue watching after the pilot. Bring it up on discord if people agree we can do. Lark Bart. I did enjoy Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy which was inspired by the film Heat and other films that Michael Mann had has directed.  The Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy was okay with me. I wish the characters I cared for more. They were very dry. Really. Pope Grimy. Yeah everyone hello everyone. What are you doing? Cold duck. Pope Grimy. Heat was great but the green screen in that movie. So hard to watch those scenes. Great movie man. Just the interaction between Robert De Niro and Al Pacino and Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer's character. Val Kilmer man. Val Kilmer for a number of years. He he produced some amazing work. Amazing work. I think White was set in Poland. White was set in Poland. Cool. I haven't watched those for so long. I need to re-watch them. And another movie on that level is 2046 in terms of how beautiful it was. Chinese movie 2046 and that was a trilogy as well. It was the second part of their there will be love. I forget what it is. I believe that the main character was still in the dream state at the end. That spinning top was not going down. But it did a little wobble. It did a little wobble. I'll tell you the truth. I hope it was a dream state. I hope they never come out and they don't make inception too. Yes it was regarding White. Ko Ko Ko. Martel Mottelsen. Finally I made it live to Ciccio. Greetings from Germany. Greetings Germany. How are you doing? Okay, should we move on for Inception Gang? We're moving on from Inception. We're going to a way way more superior movie. Putin Roaster. The prestige was fantastic. Best Christopher Nolan movie. Prestige was great. That was Christopher Nolan as well. Nice. Nice. Nice. The other movie we got Ford versus Ferrari. Thumbs up. Thumbs up. I give it a 9 out of 10. 9 out of 10. So Paloche 13. How are you doing? What's up? What's up? 79 con. I am not sure if it was White, but one of them for sure. Another one in Paris. Okay, I gotta rewatch those. Val Kilmore. Val Kilmore. Supreme leader of Twitch. How are you doing? Welcome. Welcome. Water Exile. Love the David Bowie cameo in the prestige. He was Nikola Tesla, I believe. Yeah, he was. Yeah. Prestige was very well done. Pope Grimy. Prestige I think was Nolan's best film. David Bowie. Haha. That put it over the top. Gina. To my knowledge, that scene in the coffee shop in heat was the first ever scene between Al Pacino and Robert De Niro. Really? At the time they both had extensive career. Extensive careers. They never did together. Robert De Niro and Al Pacino were in Godfather or Robert Duvall. Was Robert De Niro on Godfather? Robert Duvall was. Love Ford versus Ferrari. Just a great film. Just a great film. Really. Really good film. I don't know how. I actually looked up who these two main characters were and it was based on true story. I knew it was based on true story but I didn't really realize how true it was and I read up on both the characters a little bit. McLaurin and the driver. I forget his name. So super cool. Super cool. So I found out that that was icing on the cake for me. That's why I'm giving it a 9 out of 10. It intrigued me. I cared about the characters a lot, right? I cared about every character in this film. Even some of the pit stop crew. Just a joe below worker that had like 10 second scene in one word. I cared about that character more than I did for every character combined in the whole movie of Inception. Right? In Godfather they filmed separate from each other. Oh is that true? Very cool. Cool. Like yeah. Two separate storylines. Okay okay. Cheryl. Ford versus Ferrari was much better than I expected. Me too. I was very surprised. When I first heard of it I assumed it would just be car flick but it was neat to see the interaction in characters and actors. They did a great job. They did a great job. Fantastic job. Really. Because I don't care about the car aspect of it or Ford or Ferrari. The historical aspect of it was interesting to me. Toys and egos. I think it was more than toys and egos. Elder God. Ford versus Ferrari boys. Toys and egos. I think it was passion. I think it was about passion and staying independent and free and compromise and collaboration and it was more than anything about the relationship of these two characters. Right? I really like this movie. Really. It was a very good movie in my opinion. Pope Grimy. Heat was the first time they actually met each other. The heat was the first time they actually met each other. That's crazy. On set I guess. That's very cool man. I didn't know that. Lark Bark 55. But Al Pacino and Robert De Niro didn't share a scene in Godfather II that that's what made heat so special. Oh that's right. That's right. That's why someone mentioned a timeline. That's right. Different timelines. That's right. Spectral shock. You don't have to know anything about cars to love Ford versus Ferrari which is an incredible achievement in my opinion. Indeed. Agreed. Very accessible and it wasn't about the cars. The setting was the cars. It was about a lot more. Elder God. This movie I just couldn't get into. Get into it. Matt Damon always plays himself. It takes me out of the movie. Good thing I don't mind Matt Damon's character in the movies anyway. I don't know what he's like outside. Christian Bale was awesome as always. Christian Bale is a phenomenal actor. What a great actor. One of his best performance ever was the mechanic without a doubt. I think his worst performance ever was Batman. If I'm remembering, we're calling correctly. Matt Damon was a pit Matt Damon. Grounded Matt Damon. Salute gang. American Psycho was fantastic as well. But I think the mechanic. What a movie. American Psycho was phenomenal. The mechanic man. The mechanic. The mechanic. What a performance. One of the greatest performances in movie history. So my rating? 9 out of 10. Who's stepping in? Who's stepping in? We're going to take an average? 9 out of 10. 9 out of 10. Ding Bobber. Where are you at with this? Al Pacino and Robert De Niro are old friends, but Heat was one of the first films. They actually brought them together on screen. Cool. Yohan Phoenix's best performance was the master. It's about the formation of a Scientology type movement. Oh, I haven't seen that one. Yohan Phoenix, a fantastic actor. We could have a whole movie club with nothing but Christian Bale movie. Start with Empire of the Sun and plow straight through. Matt Damon was reasonable in the talented Mr. Ripley. Elder God. 5 out of 10. Ding Bobber. 9 out of 10. Official rating. Official rating. Sorry, everyone. So if we take the average, so 9 plus 9 is 18, plus 5 is 23. 23. No one stepped in. Oh, Cheryl stepped in. Kicked up the average a little bit. Cheryl's at an 8.  So we got 18, 28, 28, and 11, 39, and that's 5 people. So average is 7.8 or something it would be. Something like that, right? 39, 5 people. Yeah, 7.9 or something. So 7.9. 7.9. When you hit something like this, when the distribution of the ratings is extreme, you need to read the reviews, okay? Never take the absolute number because even IMDb, forgettable, raw tomato, that's fixed, right? IMDb is in their statement of what they, oh, 7.7 people. 49, so 7. Gicho, I use the calculator. Okay, thank you Bob Ross.  So read the ratings, read the reviews. Quick correction. You said the mechanic, but Christian Bale film was the, oh, machinist, thank you very much. I always mix that up. Not the mechanic. Mechanic was Sylvester Stallone. Wasn't it? Don't watch the mechanic. Don't watch the mechanic. You want to watch the machinist. Thank you very much. Spectral shot. Thank you very much for that correction. The machinist, the machinist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Machinist, the mechanic, and a massive, just a rough side for averaging. It's about ingenuity, not cars. It's about ingenuity to bureaucracy kills. How are you doing? St. just Germany. Hello, hello gang. Let's go to the next movie. Another phenomenal movie with a lot of propaganda in it. The Manchurian candidate from 1962, I believe, right? Frank Sinatra, Lawrence Harvey, Janet Leigh, for murder, she wrote, right? Great movie with tons of, tons of propaganda. Elegant, Charles Bronson, Jason Statham, Chico, the average rating was seven, oh, seven point, not seven point nine. Yeah. Thanks for the correction, Ding Bobber. Great movie. This is, this was a great movie. I had watched it in the past many, many moons ago, and I was very pleasantly surprised that I loved it still after that many years. Not that it matters. Oh, mathematics always matters. Going to be a good time. Just got here. Nice. You were here before a twist. Got the drinks, got the guitar. Very nice. I got my drinks, no guitar. Salute gang. Here's to the movies. Mr. Brazil Pesto. You can tell it's old because the poster is actually trying to advertise. The Manchurian candidate. Very good movie. Historically, brilliantly done, really encompasses the McCarthyism to a certain degree going on there, the politics of it, the Cold War, the, the ideologies, beautifully done, and the dialogue, the way they refer to the Chinese and the Russians and the Communists and the Reds. Wow, wow, wow. It's crazy how the Manchurian candidate came out before the JFK assassination. Wow, wow. You thought jazz. JFK was 64, was it not? Just got to the beach. Ah, he just got to the beach. Ha, ha. Ding, Bobber. As in, for your info to any musicians, Albertan Live 11 just came out and is offering a free 90-day trial, no strings attached, worth a look into it. Cool. The water is out. Chicho. Gatsby Toss Black. Back. Gatsby Toss Black. Oh, Gatsby Toss Black. Ha, ha. Right on. Salute, salute. Oh, God. I have to admit, I watched the remake by accident. I hope it translated. From what I heard, the remake is horrendous. Well, that was with, what's the black actor's name? I like him actually. Denzel Washington, right? The Manchurian candidate. Can I see the movie list somewhere in Discord? Yeah, go to our Discord page, our schedule. In the schedule, I have the list typed out. Okay. In the time slot, Saturday morning, that we're watching it. And Elder God created a folder in our main page where it says movies and music that we're supposed to listen to. Our homework page, I guess. And it lists all the movies with links to the IMDB page or whatever page it is. It's IMDB, most of what I believe. And Elder God put that together. So thank you very much, Elder God. Yes, movie music folder. Okay, awesome. Pesto. I don't know any remakes that are good. Any remakes that are good. There are remakes that are really good. Day of the Dead. The remake was phenomenal, phenomenal, really good. The original was fantastic, but the remake was phenomenal as well. There are certain movies that the remake is superior to the original. Right? Yeah, scroll up into the music and movies information. Cool. Awesome. Everyone filling in. Utah Jazz, how are you doing? Along the lines of 60s cold war movies, do you like the movie Doctor Strange Love? Oh my God, of course. Stanley Kubrick at prime. Stanley Kubrick was always on his best, right? As one of the directors that there isn't a single movie that he put out, which Barton Fink is the only one I haven't watched from beginning 10, if I recall correctly. But Doctor Strange Love is amazing, amazing, amazing. Lark Bark. People talking to each other. I'm just going to stay with chat. I think I have found that. Thank you. Awesome. Utah Jazz. The thing was an amazing remake. The thing was an amazing remake. Indeed it was. Ding Bobber. Anybody here play the Witcher 3 before? I just finished it from start to finish, including both expansions and less than a month. It was incredible and emotional, to be honest. Not for the faint of heart. Nice. I try to get my hands on the Witcher number one, the comic book. It's going for a hefty price, so I haven't been able to get my hands on it. Result Pesto. True, but I feel like they always lose something in translation. If they're being translated from one country to another, if it's a remake of another country's original movie, like La Femme Niquita. The original is so... you can't even compare the Hollywood remake. It was garbage, the Hollywood remake. Watch La Femme Niquita, the French movie, and then watch the remake from Hollywood. You'll vomit on the remake from Hollywood. I only watched like 15 minutes of it.  Okay, so I think it's more so applies on that front. Movies were my first love and it will be my last. The water is la chicheau. Your discourse servers are absolutely top class. I learned so much.  So very much thank you to everyone for participating in the Discord. I've basically reduced me going to different types of forums, social networks to get news and content that I want to consume. And I'm going to my Discord and I'm doing the same. I'm sharing as much as I can the genres that I'm consuming the most about. So it's phenomenal. 7-9 con, I agree. Joker was Johan's outstanding performance. Definitely the best movie I've seen recently. It was very good. Very good. Can someone pick three words to describe this movie, please? Cold War. Cold War movie? That's three words. If you want to understand that period in terms of the mindset and the propaganda and the politics and the power struggles within the United States, it's a perfect example of what was going on. I have not seen this movie.  Oh, dingbob, you got to watch this movie. The remake had Nina Simone? No, Elder God. Remake of Manchurian Candidate had Nina Simone? Oh, if it does, then I might have to watch it because I love Nina. Cheryl. Anxious, pertinent, timeless. Very good. Cheryl. So three words to describe this movie. Anxious, pertinent, timeless. And ahead of his time, really, masterpiece, beautifully shot.  Many. Basil Pesto. That's so true.  Watched the original. So good. So good. So good. Joker is brilliant and hits too close to home with most viewers. Yeah. Brazil Pesto. I think two other good movies for seeing a version of pre-2000 America, all the president's men and network, network indeed. All the president's men are really good as well. Those are two of my favorite movies. Yeah. Very good movies. Very good movies. No, Nikita. Did you watch any on Netflix? Water Exile. I was about to script war for Citizen Kane. Fantastic. It was interesting. Gary Oldman. Gary Oldman was that Leon. Leon. Gary Oldman and Leon was fantastic. It wasn't really my cup of tea, but I had no idea of the big troubles Olson Wells got into. Yeah. Olson Wells was what a character. The professional. Yeah. Leon, the professional. So good. Gang, we're moving away from the Manchurian candidate. We are going. Oh yeah. Did we rate this? Manchurian candidate 9.5 out of 10. Because of his historical significance and his timelessness, as Cheryl stated, I'm given a 9.5. We won't bother taking averages, unless there's a serious discrepancy here. 9.5 as well. 9.5. 9.5. I met Gary Oldman as well. Top guy. Is he another guy? Cuckoo. I agree. I was surprised that it was only 7.9 IMDB.  We get 9.5 from Elder God as well. Awesome. Awesome. Oh, so seriously, it deserves it. Gary Oldman is one of my favorites. Yeah, fantastic. And gang, don't forget. Free Assange, Free Assange, Free Assange. Julian Assange is a journalist and publisher that is trying to, that is being crucified for trying to bring transparency and accountability of capitalist power to humanity. For more information, see WiggyLeaks.org or Julian Assange and WiggyLeaks playlist on SensorTube. Ding Bobber did the average. 9.5 it is. 9.5 plus 9.5 plus 9.5 plus 9.5 equals 9.5. Black and white and anything requiring thought. Cheryl, I wouldn't say that though. IMDB I find better than a lot of other, in more honest, especially the reviews, especially the reviews. 2 plus 2 equals 5. Okay, gang. Next movie. Prisoner. Prisoner. I had a hard time watching this. Very intense. Great movie. Very good movie. Very good movie. But it was tense, right? It was tense. So I give this 8 out of 10. Okay. I would give this an 8 out of 10. 7.5, 8, 8, depending on my move. I would go anywhere between 7.5 to 8.5. I would say 8 out of 10 for this movie. Francis, ha, is my favorite black and white movie of recent times. I don't know that one. Gina, my favorite Gary Oldman performance was as Jean Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg in the 5th element. Ha, ha, that's right. He was too. He was great in that, Gina. What a great performance. Oh, no, no. That's not what he does in Lyon. Takes the breath in, I think. I forget. Ha, ha, Jean Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg. He played basically a Lex Luthor in that show, but a sci-fi Lex Luthor. Fantastic. Making a deal with dark side. Right? Great, great performance. Cheryl, yes, Gina. And Serious Black. I can't imagine anyone else playing that role now. Serious Black. Serious Black. Which one is that one, Cheryl? Francis Ha is good. Brazil Pesto says, but it's not often recommended to men for some reason. I checked my mom's Amazon on my ex-girlfriend, or my ex-girlfriend, and they have Francis Ha recommended all the time. What is this movie? Brazil Pesto, if you're on our Discord, post us in our movie folder. And we'll get a chance to take a look at it. We're popping tomorrow. We're doing recommendations tomorrow. Tink, how are you doing? Watch this last week. Still not sure how I feel about it, since essentially if that kid wasn't tortured, then it wouldn't have had such a happy ending. Easy 8.5 for me, yeah. For me, I usually don't like the Hollywood version of movies, the endings of movies, where they do fistfights.  They ended with fistfights for some damn reason, right? Or they have happy endings. And we'd set this from the beginning, but I loved, I appreciated that it didn't leave me destroyed, right? I appreciated it that it showed a little bit of positive, right?  No, we're not hiding spoilers, Tink. No. We set it from the beginning. We're reviewing eight movies, and we're talking about them, and more movies. So this is a spoiler stream, spoiler stream. Oh, Gary Oldman and True Romance was great as well, yeah. From the Harry Potter series. Oh, is that what it is? Oh, Serious Black. He's the bad guy in Harry Potter. I've only watched the first Harry Potter movie. I haven't watched the rest. I've been meaning to do a marathon on them, but I never got around. Prisoner took a lot of ideas from true events and made it more creepy. Yeah, I can imagine, right? Not imagine. You knew it took things from current events and real life situations. That's why it made it so horrific in a big way, right? So it was very heavy. By far the heaviest movie, prisoner. Extremely heavy movie. If you want a heavy movie that you care about the characters, even the bad ones, it was it was very well done. I have the IMDb link for Francis Ha. Where would I post that on Discord? We have in the light section, we have three categories. Main category, in the light topics, in the heavy topics, in the light topics under film. We have a subfolder called film. If you can post it there, that'd be fantastic, Brazil Pesto. What's up Epsteinx, how are you doing? Melissa Leo did a really good job as the mad old woman. Was that her name? She did a fantastic job. It was and the guy, the kid that was being tortured, he's the same actor as there will be blood, the evangelist. And he is, as far as I'm concerned, he is what a phenomenal actor that guy is, right? He sold me on there will be blood on that character and he sold me on this character as well and kept it to a level where you didn't know what was going on. You knew there was something there, but you didn't know what it was and you felt for them all, right? Big C, how are you doing? Did you watch other Gil-Hal flicks? Enemy and nocturnal animals are even better, same with demolition. I don't believe so. No, for the last few years, I've really tried to stay away from movies like this. I used to love movies like this. I watched a lot of them when I was younger, but because I consume a lot of current events, I know the death and destruction that's going on in the world and just the brutality of it. So I try to not consume that type of content when I need downtime, I need to escape and whatnot. So at some point, I stop consuming these types of movies because it's just the humanity of it is so powerful that it leaves a toll on you, right? Just did it. Awesome. Thank you, Brazil Pesto. I appreciate it. Water Exha, Frances Ha has Greta Gerwig an Adam Driver. It's kind of a good magnifying glass into the problems people in their late 20s have with settling down and weighing up your dreams versus reality. It also reveals the status rivalry between colleagues and college friends. It's quite interesting. Cool. Frances Ha. Cheryl Harry Potter. I'll pull out my mom's favorite and most irritating saying, quote, you must read the books first. I'm not going to sit down and read all the books. Isn't there? Awesome. Take that. Paul Dano, great at playing a naive kid. That's his name. Also amazing in Little Miss Sunshine. Oh, he was in Little Miss Sunshine and I'm going to drop a bomb right now.   They tried to take everything that was quirky and put it in a movie and make it appealing to people and it was, right? The biggest issue I had with my, one of the issues I had with Little Miss Sunshine was the, what do you call it, emo son that wanted to be a fighter pilot, but he wanted peace. I was like, what? Love that little, little Miss Sunshine review. A girl for us. And I love the predictive as well. The characters talked about the future events in casual conversation in earlier scenes. For which one, Elder God? Which one is this? In Prisoner? The actor's name is Paul Dano. He also directed a movie with Jake Golahal called Wild Life. I don't think I've seen that one either. Brazil Pesto. I kind of agree. I was sitting there waiting for it to develop into something more until the movie ends with Little Miss Sunshine. And one of the most annoying things at the movie, people, people walking, I actually saw it in the theater at the time when it came out, people walking. Oh, what a great movie.  What a great movie.  I was like, let me out of here. Let me out of here. Who are these people? Cheryl, I still enjoyed this type, but don't watch anywhere near as much since having a child, limited time. Yes, but they hit too close and I can't let the emotional response go as easily. Yeah. Yeah, it sticks. I don't want it to stick with me that long. Paul Dano is an incredible actor. He was the young minister in There Will Be Blood, totally underrated actor, totally underrated actor. He was, this is how much of an amazing actor he is. Daniel Day-Lewis, some would argue, is one of the greatest actor in our time. He pulled his weight with Daniel Day-Lewis at par. Right? Phenomenal. Yes, prisoner, okay. Love the predictive narrative as well. The characters talked about future events in casual conversation in earlier scenes. Oh, I'm not going to rewatch it, but I wish I caught that. But you have to pay attention. You have to pay attention. It didn't ring with me. Brazil Pesto. Daniel Day-Lewis is so good that I don't even realize he was in half of those movies until I figured out who he was. He's phenomenal. Elder God, quote, I hope you live long enough to see me dump your daughter down here with you. Oh, the old lady when he shot him in the leg and told him to go down. I missed it.  Yeah, there will be blood. Yeah, we watched. There will be a lot. Last time Pope Grimy says, the water is out. I watched Gangs of New York for the first time the other day. That also stars Daniel Day-Lewis. I was surprised at how bored it made me for being a Scorsese movie. Just my opinion. I watched the first 15 minutes of Gangs of New York. I was bored out of my mind. It was what do you call it? Leonardo DiCaprio and basketball diaries I think is Leonardo's best film really. I'm not really into Leonardo anymore. I think I don't like the direction it's gone and stuff. The movie was very boring. I saw the little segment with Daniel Day-Lewis but I couldn't sit through the whole thing. Daniel Dillis was awesome in Gangs of New York. Yeah, I should watch it just for Daniel Day-Lewis. And The Last of the Mohicans. I thought Daniel Day-Lewis was amazing Last of the Mohicans. And what was that movie called where he was the Irish guy that was freed out of jail? Friday? What was it called? In the name of the father? Was that what it's called? Fantastic movie. Yeah, Gangs of New York.  I couldn't finish Gangs. I couldn't do it either. Marty can do no wrong. The first battle scene was just Gicho and 90% of movies tell you the story in first five minutes. Daniel Day-Lewis was excellent in Phantom Thread. It's sad he retired. Has he retired fully? Yeah, Brazil Pesto. Oh yeah, I want to wash the director's cut of The Last of the Mohicans. Like three hours. Yeah, Last of the Mohicans. I really like it. Pope Pyme Chicho. Damning myself for missing the Brotherhood of a Wolf talk. Yeah, Brotherhood of a Wolf. So good. So good. Elder God recommended that one for us. Cheryl, my left foot, my left foot. What a phenomenal movie. And in the name of the father are my faith. Yeah, name it a father, man. Bring like powerful, powerful. I agree with the Caprio's acting direction. He turned down Anakin Skywalker. I feel like he is a bit snobby in his acting choices. Yeah, he's become a philanthropist. Robin Shoulders with Billy Gates. Phantom Thread is so good. I haven't seen Phantom Thread. Brazil Pesto. Have you ever seen Master and Commander? I think that's the perfect historical movie. I don't think I've seen Master and Commander. Best Bit of Gangs in New York is a four minute clip where Daniel Day-Lewis talks about fear starts off with a 47 years old. Nice. Have you read the books? Gang, we're taking this one down prisoner. We're bringing out the next movie. Old boy. Old boy. What a fantastic movie. Korean movie. I don't know. This was probably third, fourth time I've seen this movie. Loved it. 10 out of 10. I have a fondness for Korean movies. I found that Loki awesome in prisoner. When he figures out the old woman is involved, his face tells her, yeah, that's the cop, isn't it? He was really good. That Loki. Is that his name? Phantom Thread is a must watch. Is it? Water Eyes Out? Somebody please post it in our film. So I know. Maybe we'll recommend it for tomorrow's stream. Elder God. And the red whistle was a great add. It was. Was it red or pink? I thought it was pink. Takita. Hello, hello. When I was here last time, Elder God saying brother of the wolf. And again, I'm here. You're saying it again. Wow. What a deja vu. It is four months, dude. We're still talking about it. It's so good. It's not good, right? You should see the layers we've gone down. Old boy. An intense film. An intense film. Best Korean movie. Best Korean movie. There are some amazing Korean movies out there. I don't know if I would say best Korean movie, but I give it a 10 out of 10. Old boy reboot sucked real. I didn't even bother. Hollywood remake of foreign movies. You know it's going to be dumbed down. You know it's going to be simplified. You know the brutality of it. The psychological brutality of it is going to be missing. You know it's going to be censored up the yin yang. Why would you watch? I don't know of any remake of a foreign movie. Hollywood remake of a foreign movie that has been good. Nothing comes to mind. That must be one or two. Brazil Pesto. Yeah, I'm sure it's a little bit of a magnifying glass effect where we only see the best Korean movies, but still they're phenomenal. They're raw. They're dark. Korean movies I find to be very dark. Brazil Pesto. I really like train to Bosn. After watching it, I was like, quote, finally someone made an actually good zombie movie. Oh yeah, that was really good. That was fantastic. That's the one where people are getting sick and they're coughing up a blood, I think. Initially people think it's like the flu or something. That was really good. That was a fantastic zombie movie. One of the best zombie movies ever. Phenomenal. Oh boy, how much can one man take train to Bosn was really fun. Really, really fun. I forgot about that movie. Master and Commander combines, Cheryl says, stories from a few books in the Aubrey Maturen series by Patrick O'Brien. Brazil Pesto. Oh really? I definitely should read those books, he says. Elder God. I couldn't find this movie, so I had to settle for the remix. Sorry. Oh Elder God. How bad was it? How bad was it? The original is amazing. You should have told me. I would have sent you a link where I found it or a magnetic link where I found it. What an example. Cruely trailer dropped this week. Disney is going down the shitter, especially after the Mandalorian controversy with cancelling the main characters. Disney, Disney. Train to Bosn was awesome, Cheryl says. Everyone's recommending train to Bosn. Cruel. And it has a sequel. And it has a sequel. Train to Bosn has a sequel? No, wait. Takita. Train to Bosn has a sequel? Where I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Bosn has a sequel? The actor in Old Boy is fairly underrated. He's, I think in the Korean scene or the Asian scene, I think he's pretty well known. I've seen him in a few other movies. I'm pretty sure. Padre, Padre, Padre. Old Boy kind of reminds me of Ode Piaz Rex, where the main character is just totally devastated at the end. A real tragedy. Ode Piaz Rex. I don't know that. I don't know what that refers to. Epstein. If you guys like Old Boy, I highly recommend the movie I Saw the Devil. I don't know that. Or the movie I Saw the Devil. I Saw the Devil. Is that what you mean? Water Exile. What do you think will change with the zombie movie genre after COVID, Curious to know your thoughts? We haven't seen just the origin of a zombie. We haven't seen a zombie movie come out in the last couple of decades, at least two or three decades, where the origin of the zombie gene or the zombie virus is extraterrestrial. So I think at some point we're going to see a remake or a retelling of a story where the zombie, the origin is extraterrestrial like the body snatchers, right? But the remake of the body snatchers don't even bother to watch the original, right? As far as zombie, zombie movies are just basically sort of a deconstructing society and its problems, amplifying the problems and human interaction, right? Brazil master, huh, Disney has a few money, so they're saying a few, yeah, Disney has a few money. Really, Takeda. So Train to Boston has a sequel and it's called Peninsular Busan, or that's the way it's pronounced, Busan. So Peninsular is the second part, a follow-up to Train to Busan.  Oh, by the way, if you guys want to see, what was that movie called? It was a movie Shakespeare play that they made Othello, I think Othello from, I forget what year it was, it was phenomenal. Okay, I don't know the Greek mythology to heart well. I know the events, some of them. Oh, God, a fellow Chichonian would like some less macho options in Tomorrow's Choice, just a heads up. Okay, less macho would be fantastic. We had a lot of macho going on right now, probably. But I think there's lots of amazing movies. I hope you guys have your recommendations ready gang, because tomorrow morning from 10 a.m to 12 p.m, or 10 a.m until however long it takes, we're going to do more movie recommendations for us to watch. This time we had eight, so it took us a while or took me a while to be able to watch them all so I could set up a stream because I intend to watch every single movie that wins the heats, right? So tomorrow, if you want to recommend some movies, you're definitely welcome to pop in from starting a 10 a.m PST my time to recommend some movies. And we vote on them to see what goes up. Okay, how's about hardcore Henry? I saw parts of it. I didn't like the motion of it, so I was getting a little motion, so I watched like 10 minutes and I had to stop it when I never went back to it. Yes, train to Busan to Peninsular. I got a zap that. I got a, oh, I don't have a pen. Yeah, dang it. Someone post this in my discord. I got to remember to bring pen and paper. I got to remember to bring pen and paper. Thank you for that, by the way. Fun zombie movies are the best. Fun sci-fi movies. There's a good Korean TV show with zombies during medieval times on Netflix. Seriously? What? I don't know this. Link it up. Link it up. Oh, my God. Old boy original.  Do they, do they show that in the Hollywood version? Hardcore Henry released in 2016. Less macho. Let's watch. By the way, Disney bought the Rice to Aliens and Predator. So they're doing special covers on all their Marvel books being released for the last two, three months of Aliens was last month. Predators this month coming up, March. And expect to see new remakes of Aliens and Predator movies. And maybe at some point we'll see Spider-Man versus Predator or something or Aliens. Right? I have too many recommendations. Pick one, bring it on. And one recommendations per person. Odeous complex means you want to make it with your mama. Is that what it means? Good thing. Are you on the west coast? Do you know what I am on the west coast? Cold duck. I am. Othello with Lawrence Fishbourne was excellent. Was that the one? Cheryl, the Othello where spoiler again, by the side of the lake, there's a tree stump and the girl is on it. Is that the one? Is that the Shakespeare remake with Lawrence Fishbourne? What an amazing movie if that's the one? That's the Shakespearean movie I'm thinking about. I think it was Othello. Water Exhaust. Speaking of Shakespeare, Ralph Feeney, a Valder malt guy, or Ralph Feeney we know, did a chilling version of Corillanes. It's set in a present-day American Roman Empire. Wow. And yes, the original with Arnie, the original Schwarzenegger. Les Macho, Nocturnal Animals is pretty good. Les Macho, I would say Eight Legged Freaks. Fun movie, horror movie. Cheryl, this movie set was definitely testosterone heavy. Nothing wrong with that. Per se. But oi, at least one lighter choice would be helpful. Agreed, Cheryl. It took me a while to get through all eight movies. Like it was high octane, right? Like we did this choice on December 6th. We're on end of February doing a review of these movies like over two months later, right? Brazil Pesto, oh my god, Predator are like an STD at this point. What franchise are they? Are they not in? Yeah, it's horrendous. It's too centralized. It's very graphic in the Hollywood version. Thanos takes Scarlet Witch. Really, on that level, no. In Old Boy, it was love. It wasn't, there was, because they didn't know. In Old, in the Korean version, it was very passionate and very endearing until you find out what it is.  Lady and Trap was perhaps a top five movie all time ever, despite Danny DeVio's absence. I'm like, choice ready. You got your choice ready, Elegant. Okay, awesome. Brazil Pesto. I was playing a Tom Clancy game and the Predator showed up and killed me and my friend. He's everywhere. Magnus Robot Fighter versus Predator is a movie I'd watch. Dude, 100%. And just so you guys know, there's a comic book series, not series, but a mini that came out. Magnus Robot Fighter versus Predator, number one and number two. It was two issues.   So good, right? And the funny thing is, Disney ended up buying the rights to Predator. But as far as I remember, there's only been one Predator crossover with one of the big two characters. And it was Predator versus Batman, Batman versus Predator. And that was DC, right? Stunning ironing, Lady and Trap. Gang, old boy, 10 out of 10. Next movie, ese, blood in, blood out. What up? What up? What a fantastic movie. What a fantastic movie. Super fun, super fun, right? Very good movie. Very good movie. And really, it did a fantastic job in terms of giving the Cali feel and what it's like there. I used to go to California a lot. And this really had a fantastic vibe to it, right? Brazil Pesto. I feel like there's a board meeting every month, somewhere in Hollywood, where dudes in suits just yell out things like Mario versus Predator, Drew Maria versus Predator, Rocky versus Predator. That's exactly what I was just thinking. Elder God. So Elder God, you're giving this a seven out of 10? In fact, 10 to agree. Seven, seven and a half out of 10 for this one. Water Exile. Adding this one to the watch list. It's a great movie, a fun movie. An American Meague. They go hand in hand. This one, an American Meague. I think American Meague is superior to this, to tell you the truth. Just because it's a little heavier, darker. To a certain degree, this one is pretty dark, too. And Gang, don't forget. Free Assange, Free Assange, Free Assange. Julian Assange is a publisher and journalist that is being crucified for trying to bring transparency and accountability of capitalist power to humanity. For more information, see WikiLeaks.org or check out our Julian Assange and WikiLeaks playlist on SensorTube. Water Exile. Adding this one to my watch list. Good, good. Lark Bark. Blood in, blood out, homie. I may look white outside, but I'm brown inside. Yeah, and he meant it, right? It's not my fault, color my skin. You hated this movie, Elder God. Hated it with a passion. How come? Why'd you hate it? Why'd you hate it? Rank. Rank 118. God, imagine Rocky vs. Predator. I would love to watch that. Takita, do you like anime movies? Indeed. Akira, seen it multiple times. Ponyo, seen it multiple times. No, Ponyo I've only seen, Ponyo I've seen once. Ponyo is my least favorite of Studio Ghibli. Will be my choices for tomorrow. You could only choose one. Takita. You could only recommend one to go on the list. You can talk about the other ones and say it's a great movie. People should watch it. But to put it up for the cue to be voted on for us to watch it, you could only recommend one. Okay? Randall, how are you doing? Thank you very much for the tier one sub. Boop. No, that was for Oldboy. Oh, Oldboy Remake was 7 out of 10.  How come? How come? I've been missing California.  It was very disappointing. Yeah. I don't, I don't really eat the, I don't eat the Mexican food outside of Cali and haven't been there for ever. Right? So haven't, haven't indulged. I've tried. I've tried actually, but nothing has stuck. Harry Canary. Wow, Randall, getting, uh, gifting five tier one subs to the community. Let's check it out. Wow. Wow. Wow. Let's see who's subbing. Who got subs, man? K-Win got subbed. LSB 19 got gifted a sub. The King, Stay the King got gifted a sub. Gary from the Mitten got gifted a sub. Rayo Shino got gifted a sub. Randall, thank you very much for gifting the subs, gang. Gang, welcome. Welcome to the Chichonian family. Fun times, fun times. We, we talk mathematics and movies and read comic books. Life is pretty damn sweet and me click yours. Salute gang. Salute to the, to Randall and everybody here talking about movies and what you love. Brazil Pesto. I'm a vampire. I'm a vampire. I'm a vampire. It's true. Oscar the Grouch versus Predator. Harry Canary's going a matchup of this century. Almost as riveting as a river runs through it. Wait a second. A river runs through it. It was not a bad movie. Vampire's Kiss starring Nick. Oh, dude. Vampire's Kiss is phenomenal. What have, what have Nicholas Cage's best movies is the most wonderful vampire movie I've ever seen. And that is exactly why it is one of, one of the best vampire movies ever. When he puts on the fake, when he puts on the fake teeth, goes into the club, grabs the girls as far as biting her neck. It's like, what the hell's going on? What a great movie. Vampire's Kiss. I've seen it a couple of times.  Pure Nicholas Cage at his best. At his best. It's the, it's the funnier version of the one where he's, he's trying to kill himself by drinking Gono Vegas, leaving us. What's the call? I forget that movie. What's, what's the name is? Fun. What's your major in? Office alpha male. Is that a question for me? What liqueur did you take today? This is a pomegranate liqueur. Pomegranate liqueur from 2020 pomegranate liqueur. I got 2018 pomegranate or 2019 pomegranate too, but this is 2020 pomegranate liqueur. So salute. And as far as what my major, geophysics major, minor mathematics, Randall Salute. I'm sipping on a wee whiskey. Ooh, nice. On the rocks or knee. Salute. Z, Z, Raui. Z, Zup Raui. Zup Raui. Cool. Elder God. I watched it way back in 1990s, and my younger self found it to, found it to social justice back then. I can't use the word on here to describe it. Ah, okay. Okay. I liked it still. I really liked it. Blood and blood out, man. It was, it was good. It was very, very well done. Right? It was, it had cheesy moments. There's no doubt. It had the cheesiness factor of it, and it wasn't as raw as, as what it would be. Right? But it was well done. I liked it. I would, blood and blood out. Seven and a half out of, no, eight out of 10. Eight out of 10. Eight and a half out of 10. I'm going to compensate for Elder God's two out of 10. Probably if he's going to give it, Elder God, what are you giving it? My rating is going to compensate yours. Leaving Las Vegas. Yeah. Very good movie. And Vampire's Kiss is sort of a comedic version of that. Brazil, Brazil Pesto. No joke. I went out to a club with one of my old coworkers and instead of hanging with us, he had a huge black cape on and he won't, and he would hang out in the back and do the exact same thing as Nicholas Cage. Too funny. Too funny. Sure. Oh, that's yummy. What, what's so yummy? What did he write? R, R, Rd bag 10. Rd bag 10. I don't know that whiskey. Rd bag 10. Shirley, you know it, eh? Okay. He got fired like three weeks later. Rendo, always need for me. Always need for you. Very good. Very good. Yeah. For me, the very high end spirits, they got to be neat, right? Except vodka that neat out of the freezer. High end vodka, neat out of the freezer. Whiskey, very high end, neat, neat. I do go on the rocks every now and then, but never mix. Oh my God. You see people take Coca-Cola and put it on. Oh my God, what are you doing? Water Exile. Another funny comedy is quote, I love you to death. Oh, I've seen that one. It's about a pizza restaurant owner who keeps cheating on his wife and ends up in a murder. It stars River Phoenix and it's comedy gold. I love you to death. And it's got Sharon in it, doesn't it? Oyster snack today. I have chichu cookies in my roasted sesame seeds with salt, but I haven't had, I haven't popped any yet. I've been reading the comments and just enjoying the conversation. Haven't had a chance to pop anything yet. I had some, I had a couple of cookies earlier this morning at like, it was sort of breakfasty at four o'clock in the morning when, you know, just before I was doing my live stream with Wake the Beast. 1.5 out of 10. Elder God. Boo. Boo. You're giving there will be blood. 1.5 out of 10. We need to have a talk, man. Okay, Elder God. I know what I'm recommending tomorrow and I hope it gets picked and I hope you get to watch it because I want your opinion on that movie. And I'm going to tell you exactly what that movie is right now. My choice for tomorrow's pick is, I'm sorry, Cheryl, it's not going to be, it's a, it's a, it's a testosterone flick. It's American me. My recommendation for tomorrow's movie is American me. I'm saying it now. I'm laying it down. Randall gifted a tear once up to Elder God. Awesome. We can't have that. Fun. Okay, kicks it up to 2.5. Right on. Randall, kick them up one more, one more point. Good, good. Brazil Pesto. I know. I work at a liquor store. Some people are crazy. One guy buys grey goose and diet coke. I only drink Caucasians on the rocks. Those snacks look yummy. They're really good, man. They're homemade cookies. This is, this is like chocolate chip, chocolate chip with figs. I got a couple of sesame seeds in there too. Sunflower seeds in there. Whole wheat honey, honey, cane sugar, cookies with coconut butter, coconut oil, cookies. I have a video online showing how to make the base of it and I switch it up every now and then depending on what I have, right? Pop, grimy, grey goose all day. Cheryl, I don't prefer pita, but I enjoy them. My favorite scotch right now is Craig, Craigalachie, Craigalachie. I don't know that. Elder God, American meat. Time, time, time. Harry Canary. You always have the best snacks. Jealous. I just, I think it's important to eat healthy, eat well.  You know what's in the cookies. You got organic ingredients in the cookies. Now it's got a lot of chicho love in the cookies. Can't go wrong with it, right? Maybe I'll make cookies for another auction that we do. That's one of the things we'll send out to people. Cookies, chicho cookie auction. Redeem your points then. I've seen guys mix coffee shots with vodka. Coffee shots? Sounds so delicious. Yeah, these are really good, man. Really. These ones came out phenomenal. Randall, I remember watching this movie when I was 15 or something. Back then, I thought it was a eight out of 10. I probably give it the Elder God rating nowadays. I find that I found that endearing. I found that it had a certain element of truth and authenticity that I was trying to get across. There was definitely a Hollywood factor in there, but as a timepiece, I found it to be a legit. I found it to be good. Cheryl Randall. Oh, and Glenn Morhenge Quinta Ruban. Yum, man. Cheryl, you guys know your whiskies. Oh my God, yes. Oh God, I gotta write this stuff down. Pen and paper, chicho. Pen and paper, chicho. Scotch for drinking, bourbon for mixing. Is that what it is? Cheryl? What are some amazing bourbons you can have? Neat, right? Gina. Dissolve an effervescent multivitamin tablet in a double shot of vodka and slam it as quickly as you can. What? Serious. Is it yummy or are you just playing with us, Gina? Harry Canary, the old man said I could take any rug in the house. The big Lewowski. I had Guinness with espresso shots before. It was pretty good. That wouldn't be good. Like Guinness is very creamy, so espresso creamy. No, it's good, promise. Is it effervescent multivitamin tablet? How do we know what that is? Effervescent multivitamin tablet in a double shot of vodka. 7-in-1 coffee shot and vodka would work, like black Russian without sugar. I used to drink black Russians for a short period there. And white Russians as well. Cheryl. Or what's a clue? I can't remember the names. Cheryl, I don't like how sweet bourbon is. Ah, okay. But I do like basil hyden. So I tease all my bourbon-loving friends. Alka. Alkasalzer. Alkasalzer. That's what that is? Alkasalzer? Effervescent multivitamin tablet? That's what Alkasalzer is? Oh, what? So Alkasalzer tablets with vodka shots? Is Gino, is this going to kill us? What's the scoop? And gang, don't forget, free assigned, free assigned, free assigned. Julien Assange is a publisher and journalist that is being crucified for trying to bring transparency and accountability of capital as power to humanity. For more information, see WickedLeaks.org or Julien Assange and WickedLeaks playlist on SensorTube. Okay. Could be interesting. Could be interesting. Gang, those were fun movies, but definitely hydratiline, right? Should we go through them? Get drunk and form at the mouth at the same time. During pandemics, it might not be a good idea. People were freak. Oh my god, it's mutated. I only drink mint jellips. Yes. Great film. Lark Bark, Elder God. Please add the year of movie choices tomorrow with a short description of film to help our poll wizard tomorrow. Indeed. Gang, tomorrow stream when you're doing recommendations, put a hashtag and then the name of the movie. Is that the format we're going, Elder God? The year and a little description, right? And Cheryl, is that the way we're going to do it? Is that the way we've been doing it? I keep on forgetting. Cheryl's running our polls on these things. Hopefully she can show up tomorrow. If not, we'll figure it out. She's been maintaining it for us. And bed on horse races and bed on horse races. Thanks, Gina. Any multivitamin that you dissolve in water, just dissolve it in a double shot of vodka instead. Oh, okay. Oh, that would be like strong candy then. That's what that is. Okay, okay. Takita, what about a Korean movie again? Sure. Memories of Murder. 2003 was a really good movie by Bong Jong Ho, the parasite director. Yeah. And he did Snowpiercer as well. And Snowpiercer was a fantastic movie. There's one Korean movie, horror movie that I watched in the theater during a film festival like 20 years ago. It was Two Sisters. It was very like, there was a period where I was going to Vancouver Film Festival and I was picking out every Korean movie that was coming out to watch every Korean and Japanese and Chinese movie I was watching, trying to watch anyway. There's some amazing movies out there. You, I'm ready. Hashtag, hashtag, movie title. Okay, so number sign and then movie title and year in description if you can manage it. So your name and then hashtag, okay. Yeah. Have you switched to, no, I haven't switched to straw pour. I think it's going good like this because it's putting movies in groups of five. That way, you know, we could do a straw pour, but I think in this way, the top two movies, one or two movies in a heat, sort of kick up. And some, you know, those, these movies might not make it if it was in a long piece of long list. It's up to the mods and you guys gang. If you guys want to do a straw pour, we can do it. The heats are fun. And it sort of works sort of like a World Cup soccer. When they do the, when they do the pulling and they're doing the prequot, pre elimination rounds and stuff like that. Way to put the pressure on Cheryl. We need you for the polls. I know we have been talking about, about after the situation last time, I know, should we take it to discord gang? If you, if you, if we can do it on a straw pour, we can do it on a straw pour. Eagles and cycling. I just finished watching the series, the jinx about Robert Durst. Wow, quite interesting stuff. I don't know it at all. Cheryl. And as Elder God mentioned, a very short description is helpful when trying to decide between movies that way, that some may not be familiar with. Yeah. We are taking, no, no, we're not taking suggestions. I'm just throwing it out there just because Elder God, he didn't, he gave a 2.5 to blood and blood out. Horse racing commentary is a great as well. Indeed. And it's predator by, it's predator by nose. Takita. Yeah, Snowpiercer is a very nice movie. And Netflix is doing a series with the series. Takita, if you haven't watched the series, watch the series is very, very good. Very, very good. Okay. And I've read the comic books. There's a new comic book coming out on a two, but I've read the two or three of them that are already out. I have them here. I like the horse race component, but I've also looked at some options for rank choice voting, rank choice voting. That might be cool, but could be just as messy without the fun. That's true. It would be a good way to introduce rank vote based voting to the community. That way people have experienced it a little bit, but we could stick with the horse racing and gang just to let you know what we ended up reviewing today. We did blood and blood out. We did Old Boy, Korean movie from 2003, I believe. Okay. We watched Prisoner or Prisoners. Okay. Manchurian candidate, original from 1962. We did Ford versus Ferrari. We did Inception was one of the ones we ended up watching. We watched The Game and District 9 and fun movies. And thank you everyone for the recommendations and participating in the polls. Aside from that gang, let's call the stream. We'll be back here tomorrow at 10 a.m. to, I like District 9, yeah, me too, at 10 a.m. to recommend new movies for us to watch because we're out of movies. The Game was my favorite. The Game was your favorite dollar, God. Cool, cool, cool. I had like three or four favorites in this one, even though I gave some higher rank than the others. And I had one that I really did not like at all. Gang, thank you for being here. Thank you for the recommendation. Ever seen Deliverance? Yeah. Yeah, good movie. Heavy movie, heavy movie. Oh, I got one for tomorrow. Cold dark, nice, nice, nice. Light topics would be good. I might not even pick American me, gang. We'll see, we'll see. Great discussion, both on and off topics. Thanks for the fun. Thank you for the fun, gang. Gang, if you want to know what this is about, I am on patreon.patreon.com forward slash chicho, C-H-Y-C-H-O. If you want to support this work, if you want to know what this work is about, which is layered on mathematics, you can follow the work on Patreon. I don't point it behind paywalls, everything's great of comments. And for those of you who've been supporting this work through Patreon, thank you very much for the support, gang. It is in large part because of your support that we're able to do this. We are live streaming on Twitch. That's where the conversation is taking place in the chat. And if you want to follow this work, live as it's happening, Twitch is where you want to be at. And gang, thank you for the follows, Randall. Thank you for gifting the subs. Thank you for the follows. Thank you for the subs. Thank you for the discussion. Thank you for being here, gang. And mods, thank you for taking care of business and having our back. Great conversations, great recommendations, great discussion.  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Here's what we've put forward, here's what we've asked for, and all of it has been declined. We literally can't even get into an airport. For no legal reason. It's effectively just a facade. And then there's still that aspect of the Fox running the hen house because, you know, Mary Gertz is lovely, but it's still his people that we are overseeing. And I really, really want to trust the government to do what we're asking, but I don't have that trust. And I don't know how to get there.


everybody today. I would like to talk about the geochemical characterization of Jade in the greater Caribbean and the source discrimination applying multi-class regression analysis. The geochemical characterization and to provide the database of the Caribbean Jade is a precondition when one wants to actually provenance Jade artifacts as we already heard from Sebastian. There's a problem if we just do it petrographically. I would say the best way is to do it destructively using pedrography and geochemistry because this gives us most information but unfortunately we are not always able to get a piece of an object so we have to find ways to do it macroscopically non-destructively or non-invasively. This is something I will talk about later in my second talk but now I give you basically the basis for artifact provenance analysis. So we all know that there has been extensive exchange between and trade between different islands but also with the mainland and this is evidenced by finds of exotic materials on certain islands and one example is Jade and we already heard through all the talks that Jade was really valued by the Amerindian due to its physical properties. It's really hard, the system is really suited for making tools but it's also really appealing by its color and also interesting for Amerindians for producing beads and pendants and by geochemically fingerprinting those artifacts and comparing it to a database of known sources we are then able to unravel those mobility networks. So this is a global distribution map of known Jedi sources and we already heard before that Jedi Jade is much rare in occurrence than actually Nephrite. I also would like to make a comment about the terminology Jade. So Lasso already told us that it refers to two minerals. I would like to add a third one and talk about Amphysite Jade. So basically Jedi and Amphysite are both pyroxenes. Jedi sodium and Amphysite also contain some calcium or iron and if I talk about Jade I'm mainly referring to Jadotite or Amphysiteite as ant members and then we also have basically rocks which have both minerals in them. So these occurrences are always bound to metamorphic complexes there they generate in subduction zones. One plate is subducting beneath another one then we have the release of fluids either through the breakdown of hydrous minerals or through marine pore waters. These fluids can precipitate in a rock in veins then it's vein precipitated Jade but we also have metasomatic reaction meaning we have a parent rock. The fluid is introducing the rock and is basically a precipitating change and changing the mineralogy. And then in the Caribbean we have three sources namely in Guatemala then in eastern Cuba and in the northern Dominican Republic. Guatemala due to the Mutagua fault zone can be actually subdivided in two sources one north of the Mutagua fault zone and one south of the Mutagua fault zone and as we already see on that graph is basically that all these sources are aligned along this major fault zone which is an inactive subduction zone that was active for roughly 65 million years. And that is why it's not only mineralogically but also chemically really challenging in discriminating between these three Jadotite sources as they basically feature the same more or less the same formation ages the same tectonic settings similar fluids, similar profilates and this is a challenge which we have to deal with. So we analyzed over 100 Jade rocks, Jadotite and Onphysite containing rocks. We did strontium isotope composition analysis and neodymium isotope composition analysis by using the Timstrefermal ionization mass spectrometer and we also analyzed the rocks for their lead isotope composition by using the multicollector ICP-MS. So what you see here is the 87-86 strontium variability of the Jade sources from the Dominican Republic, Cuba, Guatemala as one source and then split into north and south of the Mutagua fault zone. The crosses are the average of the data and these lines are indicating the mode so basically where lies the majority of the data and what is obvious these are no outliers so everything is basically the range these dots are just 0.7 percent of the data but all is actually the geochemical range the variability of the strontium isotopic composition. So first of all what we see is that all sources are heavily overlapping but what is also notably is that Cuba has actually a quite a small range and this might be the reason due to the fact that probably Cuban Jadots have a really short history of formation. This is also consistent with the formation of with the age of formation of Jadot but also with the age of peak metamorphism which are really close to each other just one to ten million years away from each other so therefore we have a really short and also probably just one single event whereas for the other sources which have a really high variability we might have multiple stages of jade formation but we also have late-stage hyperthermal alteration which we clearly do not see in the Cuban samples. When we look at the neodymium isotopic composition variability it's even worse samples are even more overlapping so neodymium clearly is not something that we can use for age discrimination for source discrimination. This is a plot combining the strontium isotopic composition and the neodymium isotopic composition and again you can see that everything is heavily overlapping the Cuban samples are clustering quite closely which is nice but still it's overlapping heavily especially with the Dominican Republic and what we see is this late-stage alteration which mainly affected jadots from the southern motarga faults and but also from the Dominican Republic. If we look at the lead isotopic composition we see that there's a high variability in the data by itself there are different reasons for this we might have fluids generating from different types of rocks but we also have different parent rocks that might have served as a profilate but we also see again for the southern tiger faults and for the Dominican Republic that we have some rocks that have really high time integrated uranium cerium lead ratios pointing to really old rocks that have been served for these jadots to precipitate or to form those fluids. We also analyzed trace elements by ICPMS and this is just an example of how a normalized trace element pattern might look I just picked one for Cuba and I picked one for Guatemala subdividing into jades from Morse and southern tiger fault zone and just by the zigzag pattern we already see that there's mobility going on of these elements and this mobility of the different local regions is something that we can actually use to discriminate those sources from each other so we have for example high field strength elements like niobium, tantalum, zirconium, hafnium which are regionally different but these are actually really hard normally not really mobile but if you have the right ligands in the fluids then they are mobile as well then we have large differences in the large iron little file elements like cesium, rubidium and barium and these are the differences that we are using to discriminate between the sources. Nevertheless what we are not using are just pure element abundances because you see there's also a high variability but what we are using are actually trace element ratios these are more significant when it comes to discriminating the sources from each other but even if we use bivariate plots and we plot to trace element ratios against each other we will always have overlapping sources so we cannot fully discriminate the sources from each other and that's why we thought we could use a statistical approach to better or fully discriminate the sources from each other. So we tried several things with our colleagues from ETH Zürich so we tried principle component analysis we basically used those these statistical methods to reduce the amount of trace elements that we have just to find out which are the most discriminatory trace elements we can use and one approach is principle component analysis but even here you see that everything is heavily overlapping so this is not the correct method for our issue then we tried something quite new the second approach is called TSNE basically as you can see also everything is heavily overlapping here we have a lot of possibilities in tuning this model and we tried different options but there was not one tuning setting that gave us a good split then our colleagues came up with the decision tree algorithm and the decision tree is basically a flowchart structure so we have 100% of the data set in a top node here you see the samples from Cuba, Dominican Republic and from Guatemala we had less samples and analysis when we started this method so as I said now we have more than 100 samples in our analysis and then basically on each node we have a test so in our test is does one rock have a value which is greater or smaller than a certain value for trace alimentation yes or no and then it falls either to the left or to the right and we can do that until we have pure classes at the end but then this is what we would call an overfitted model so then the model fits very well to our source or data but if we have for example an artifact which we would like to fit in it might not be assigned correctly so then another thing that we can do is we can basically prune the tree we can cut it at a certain point to keep it short and then we guarantee that the tree is quite robust we might not even we might not end up with pure classes but after all we could give it a kind of probability saying yes an artifact has 20% probability coming from Cuba and 80% probability coming from the Dominican Republic there's just one issue with this approach and that is basically we do not take into account the analytical error so for those big samples which are basically 80 milligrams of rock powder because this is destructive we the analytical error is more less connectable but on my second talk I will show you that we are working with really tiny amounts of artifact material microgram amounts of artifact material and then the analytical error is getting bigger so then this value yes or no is not valid anymore because it will be in a certain range so that's why we decided to use the another approach which is called the multi-class regression approach and what we do there is basically we are not having one trace element ratio at a split but we are using multiple trace element ratios at a split at the same time and therefore the analytical error is neglectable but what we need to do for the multi-class regression analysis compared to the decision tree this is really elegant because we do not need to normalize the data you saw there's a huge variability in the data and in the values of the data but we have to normalize the data basically for the multi-class regression analysis and what we did is we normalized each trace element ratio for each source in that way that the mean is set to zero and the standard deviation is set to one and then we already saw that there are certain trace element ratios which are really suited in discriminating one source from the other we also performed a so-called a t-test or Welsh test which shows us the significance of trace element ratios that are suited for discriminating sources from each other so for example if we look at the ratio zirconium hafnium here you see these are southern tiger of fold zone northern tiger of fold zone dominican republic cuba and here again cuba dominican republic northern tiger of fold zone southern tiger of fold zone so basically if we want to separate cuba and the dominican republic from Guatemala we can use zirconium hafnium as this is a very significant ratio if we for example would like to discriminate cuba from the southern tiger of fold zone we could use the ratio zirconium hafnium which is a very significant ratio so we performed this test to filter which ratios to use at a certain split and then we came up with a three-class model where we are able to separate cuba versus the dominican republic versus guatemala as one source so first we have a group cuba dominican red traffic versus guatemala and we are splitting the source rocks by using zirconium hafnium lantern thorium and yttrium thorium which gives us more than 98 percent correct classification of the source rocks and then after all we are splitting cuba from the dominican republic using those trace element ratios and here we are still getting 83 percent of correct classification splitting dominican republic from cuba is quite challenging as those sources are pretty close so therefore they have more geochemical similarities but we were really optimistic and tried also to do a four-class model so then also splitting guatemala as two sources and we are using six ratios for doing that and at least we achieved more than 89 percent of correct classification but i would say if it comes to provenance work just the first split already saying whether something comes from cuba the dominican republic or from guatemala i think this is already a big step in in the caribbean archaeology just to be able to discrimination discriminating between those two main areas so to conclude i have showed you that perium shade sources are heavily geochemically overlapping outcrop and hand specimen heterogeneity are significant so that's why we are using trace element ratios which are better suited for discriminating just than trace element concentrations due to the relative young age of most profilates and the time of j formation isotope compositions are not really distinct between source regions nevertheless cuban samples have least radiogenic 87 86 as transium ratios and this might help quite be helpful in characterizing artifacts in the future also giving the complex tectonics of the region we cannot rule out that there are more sources that are still not known so therefore the model has to be adapted if known other sources found by using multiple trace element ratios at a specific split we are decreasing the analytical the significance of the analytical error which is important for future predictive models for artifact data assignment and i have shown you that we are basically able to separate the three main sources from each other but we are also able to do a kind of four class model thanks for your attention