Thanks for checking out this movie review video. This is for the 1985 release Phenomena by Dario, Argento and It's a giallo, but it's also a bunch of extra mixed in to be honest and It's not it's not my favorite Argento film. It might actually at the moment. It might be my least favorite Argento film I haven't seen all of his but of what I've seen I've seen a bunch and It might be my least favorite to be honest And I think at the moment my most favorite might be deep red I know a lot of people out there hearing that and being like but Suspiria Suspiria is great, and it's definitely up there, but it might be by a bit deep red But anyway Just gonna let people know up front if you don't know this about it This is an older film, so I will be going into spoilers on this So if you have not seen the film yet Stop right here go watch it then come back and watch the rest of you because I would say that it's definitely worse seen once I know I said it's not my favorite, but it's definitely interesting, and I'm glad I saw it I probably won't rewatch it, but it's definitely worse seeing once especially if you're into Argento because You know you can see Argento in the film not physically, but his influence his directing his writing all that so Anyway, as we move on here Written and directed by Dario Argento, but also written by Franco Ferrini Who also was involved with demons demons to opera and a few other Argento films, so You know consistent collaborator with Argento This film actually came after Tenebrae, which I really liked that's up there for me as well as far as Argento films go And before opera I was good with opera, but that falls further down the list for me Jennifer Connelly is in this and this was very early in her career. Obviously. She's quite young in the film This was after once upon a time in America that she was in and before the movies seven minutes in heaven and Labyrinth the big one the big one that I think Excuse me the big one that I think set her career off Labyrinth, which I own it's back in my DVD collection slash blue like blue ray collection back here somewhere Love that movie Donald Pleasance is also in this one. I love Donald Pleasance the way he acts I love his acting style and he was very good in this one His Scottish accent kind of like came and went throughout the film So that was a little bit iffy, but I just like his acting He's it's always good to see him in a film and he did a good job in this I thought for the most part I wrote down just an interesting fact about him. He has 236 IMDB credits at the moment, which is A lot a lot a lot that man did work New Line Cinema had bought this particular movie for distribution in the United States. They cut 20 minutes out of the film That's a lot and then released it as creepers So now I would be interested to see I believe the the version I saw it was on shutter when I'm reviewing this and that's where I watch it So I assume that's the uncut version I wonder what it would be like with 20 minutes cut because to be honest it felt a little bit long to me There are a lot of shots a lot of scenes that kind of just like went way too long So I wonder if they cut some of that stuff or if it was a situation where they were cutting for more of an R Rating so they just cut like some of the gore things. I don't know So I would be interested to see both cuts and make that comparison the soundtrack for this is comprised of pieces of music by The goblin as it says in the intro not goblin, but the goblin iron maiden and motorhead So when it's goblin stuff like you're just at this point I'm just used to like goblins music in our Dario Argento films and it's heavy-handed Like Argento uses music in a very very heavy-handed way and sometimes it's just like fun Like the goblin stuff is just fun because it's it's fun interesting unique music And so when he throws it in you're just like, oh, it's goblin. Okay, here we go. And it's a good time But it's particularly in this film when he's using The metal of the 80s like the iron main stuff and motorhead. I like I even wrote down wrote down I love Dario's His enthusiasm for 80s metal, but his it's misused in this like when he puts it in With the scenes that it is it feels like it's very very mismatched It just does not work and it takes you out of it and you're just like Why why are we doing this right now? It really very much feels like he was just like I like this type of music I like these songs. I'm gonna shoehorn them in here whether they make sense or not and They don't make sense. It doesn't sound good This was actually one of Argento's favorite films that he ever made and he wanted to actually make a sequel to it in 2001 but he was held up from doing that because of contract issues with Medusa films And so they kept that from happening. I'm gonna be honest I'm fine with the fact that there was never a sequel to this because It's not my favorite. Like I don't Think it deserves a sequel like it's not good enough to Warrant a sequel and I think a lot of people probably would not have seen the sequel except for all your you know Diehard Argento fans although to be honest now that I kind of think of it if it had been made I would probably feel like well, it's our gentle I kind of have to see it just because but I just Based off phenomena. I don't think it would be that great It's weird and where I'm coming from on that and I'll talk a little bit more about this later Is I feel like phenomena was basically two movies It was two movie ideas that he was trying to do at the same time And he's just like I'll just mash them together and they don't really work together in my opinion. They really don't work together All right, so let's talk about the actual movie portion of things Amazing scenery in the very beginning of this the way it's set up. It's beautiful. It's in Switzerland. It looks amazing The scenery is unbelievable and that's something that Argento Usually does extremely well like pretty much all of his films. He has really interesting sets Really interesting locations that he finds whether it's inside or outside One of one of my favorite things about Argento and in general is that when he shoots inside of buildings He gets very interesting looking buildings And he also has a tendency to have a lot of like hidden areas in the film And you see that early on in the film too when there's like a chase scene through Like these caves at a waterfall and the waterfall looks beautiful and the caves look beautiful and interesting But he always has like these kind of like in addition to just cool locations and interesting locations Just hidden areas will be like, you know a secret passageway Or at towards the end of this film like a hole in the floor where you go through and you can get to this like hidden basement thing And I just like those types of things because those really especially like the hidden areas adds to what's strong with giallo films, which is kind of the the Sleuthing and exploration part of trying to solve the mystery of who the gloved masked or gloved or trench-coated killer Typically is and so I like that about it So he starts it off really well The chase through the waterfall and the caves like I said really cool very Aesthetically pleasing the head being rolled into the stream After that first person gets killed was pretty unexpected I did not see that coming and it was just like you see that like the bloody hand Like arm kind of like laying off one of the rocks and then all of a sudden the head just flies into the stream And you're just like oh, oh, okay, but the whole purpose of that is to kind of Drive home the savagery of what just happened. It's not just a murder. It's like overkill It's like extreme rage like taking it to that next level and either ripping or cutting someone's head off and Throwing it into a river. It's weird There's some strong foreshadowing in the in the beginning like after that kill happens The killer like stabbed the girl with scissors and I think her name was Rita and then And then it cuts over to Donald Pleasants with this monkey I forget the monkey's name and the monkeys like using scissors to like try and cut things and he's like Oh, no, no, no, and he takes it away and he's like that's too dangerous Don't ever play with you know sharp objects basically so that's the foreshadowing that the monkey shows up in the end obviously and with the straight razor kills frow brokner, I think is her name who's one of the killers basically and Yeah, it's just a foreshadowing there and I kind of like this is the first time I've seen the film and I picked up on that immediately I was like this monkey at that point I thought, you know, maybe the monkey is the killer, but there was definitely something with the monkey and sharp objects So that came into play later So there's a narration that comes into this like and it only happens once in the film like when Jennifer Which I think it's weird that Jennifer Connelly's character's name is Jennifer in the film So that was just weird But when Jennifer finally makes it to the school that she's going to in Switzerland There's this weird narration like voiceover that comes in and says something about like, you know, I forget exactly what it was but it was something just like oh You know, she was gonna have a traumatic time basically, but it was like a few like a sentence or two There was no narration prior to that There's no narration after it and it's just weird like it makes no sense It didn't add a single thing It was it was just weird. I was like why like why are we adding this one little bit of narration in here when It wasn't there before we didn't start with narration and you didn't do it at all afterwards It's just cut it out. Like we don't need that. This is a weird choice When Jennifer and Sophie are talking their conversation actually is very disjointed That's the scene where they first meet in their room in the school Which that room that for like a dormitory type room looks super nice, especially for the 80s So when but when they're talking like it feels like a very disjointed conversation Although I'm not sure that that's necessarily a big problem Because as younger kids like they're teenagers I feel like some conversations just kind of end up that way like they just jump topics, you know So it felt weird, but at the same time when I thought about it.  That was a cool scene I did not see that coming that was surprising and they pulled her off really well looked good That's some intense sleepwalking I wrote down like her sleepwalking was crazy intense. She could not be woken up I actually when I was much younger had sleepwalking issues from time to time And there was actually there were times where like I'd get up and then I'd go downstairs and turn the TV on and Be sitting there in front of the TV and my parents would find me like still sleep sitting in front of the TV Or one time when almost became a real big problem They caught me trying to unlock the door and leave the house So I almost had a Jennifer Situation from phenomena because it's crazy like she doesn't wake up and she's like falling She almost gets hit by a car and she's rolling down the hill It's nuts and then the monkey comes and saves her which is you know cool So the little bit of a concept that they throw in here that Argento throws in of the Swiss Transylvania thing is kind of interesting He kind of explains it in in more of like a mystical way It's more of like nobody really knows why you know the winds make people a little bit crazy or something like that It's it's weird, but it's kind of interesting at the same time But also I don't think it should have been in this film I felt like this is one of those portions I was talking about where it feels like it's its own film idea That doesn't mix with the giallo part of this like the giallo parts one and this whole Swiss Transylvania slash Jennifer's telepathy with insects. That's a whole other thing and those are the two films that they were just like Let's just put these together, and I don't think it works. It makes it weird. It makes it feel disjointed and just Weird just weird The classroom scene The earliest cut classroom scene where that girl's wearing like the BG shirt and they're all talking about like they're trying to talk about history But it makes a really interesting point about youth being so consumed by pop culture at that time that they have literally No interest in learning about the past or learning about history Which is actually something that kind of persists to today Like we we as a people and it's not just the youth of now We as people are so wrapped up in what's current and what's going on right now because the way media covers things They cover a lot so you get just like a dump plus the what's available on the internet like you just have so much current information that you're not even thinking about the past a lot of the time and It's a shame because you can learn from mistakes from the past So we don't make those in the future and it kind of just seems like it's a thing That's kind of dying out where people aren't that interested in knowing what happened in the past and are just in the present and looking ahead But Yeah, I think that's kind of one of the points they're trying to make in that scene You know, it's a quick scene, but you know, that's just what I thought I picked up from it Working with all the live insects and the monkey in this film must have been extremely challenging I cannot even imagine because there are many situations where I assume they were they obviously were trying to get the monkey to Do something specific which that wouldn't have been as hard because I know there was a handler for that monkey and They're intelligent. So like you you can train them you can get them to do things So it's a little easier to work with them But the insects like trying to get insects to do specific things. They're not intelligent So I cannot imagine how many takes they must have had to go through to get exactly what they were looking for That would try my patience. I would not want to do that that that seems rough I think it's stupid that Jennifer Jennifer at one point is following a fly to try and solve murders Literally like the whole thing where Donald Pleasance is like oh these might be the two unknown detectives you and the great sarcophagus Which is also just like a Weirdly grandiose name for a fly or a type of fly in this case And then it's just weird and then she's just he's just like take this fly And let it go and it will lead you to a dead body and then you will solve the mystery and you're just like Why are we going this direction? Why it's dumb. It is idiotic in my opinion just Doesn't work does not work Uh like I kind of said the sleuthing portions are the best portions of this film That's getting to the actual like giallo portion of it Like I said, you know, it's two movies smashed together if they would have just isolated The actual giallo portions of it and expanded upon that left out all this other stuff Um, I think it could have been a much better film in my opinion The monkey getting on the killer's car after they killed uh, Donald Pleasance's character was over the top and ridiculous I did like the portion where after Donald Pleasance got killed the monkey was you know on him and obviously extremely sad That was an impactful moment and it worked really well But then you follow it up with now the monkey's Raging out and jumped on the killer's car and is like trying to bash the window and stuff It was for no reason and it's just like I don't know. It was just it was dumb There's another one of those moments in the film is just dumb And it goes back to something that I see with Argento Like Argento loves to work with animals and insects in his films If you look if you watch most of his films have animals or insects used in some capacities Got this weird fascination with doing that, which I don't understand specifically for what I just talked about Which is it must be very challenging to work with those things But I don't know it's his thing Uh, the bathroom scene where Jennifer is Drinking a lot of water and trying to make herself throw up Is excessively long. That is one of those scenes that I was saying I think should be cut down Excessively long and there are a few scenes kind of like that where it's just like okay There's nothing else happening here. We get the point. Let's let's move on It was a different time though slower films were more accepted Uh, I like how he the term he is constantly used when everyone refers to the killer to kind of Make you get into that pathway of thinking of like, oh, it's obviously a male killer when it ends up being a woman But also kind of her son, you know, so it's kind of like both of them So I just kind of like that that like little Subconscious cue that they give the audience to be like, well, let's just think about it's a guy and it's a single guy Who's killing people? So it's kind of like a misdirection, which works Argento uses hidden areas already talked about that his hidden areas thing Love love love that stuff and there there were some in this The dead body pit man in at the end of this film is I wrote down. It's gnarly it is I didn't see that coming when she just gets like When she just falls into that dead body pit it is nasty and I was like, oh man And they do a really good job Argento does an awesome job of showing it up close a lot So you're seeing like maggots in it. It looks like really really gross You're seeing the bones in it and everything and the viscera and it just looks Just disgusting so that they're focusing enough like Close-up shots on it that you get an idea of how gross it really is So when you have the further away shots and you see, you know, Jennifer Struggling in it you you kind it has more impact because you're just like, yeah, that's really really gross And I would freak out too So what's the deal with the kid in this? He's a killer just because he has facial abnormalities Like I don't get it. Is it because he has facial abnormalities and he's an outcast So that just makes him angry and a killer or is it because his mom's kind of kept him Chained up because that's kind of the insinuation from the very beginning Like when you see the chains bolted in the wall and they get broken broken and then the first girl gets murdered I mean, it's the kid at that point I believe And it insinuates then that he was chained to a wall that his mom had done that So is that the reason why because she's like basically treating him like an animal animal because he looks like an animal Like he's caged up basically. So then he kind of becomes feral Which by the way, it makes me think of the film castle freak, which actually came out after I think that's from 1995 actually So it is well after Um phenomena. I don't know if there was any, you know inspiration drawn from phenomena for castle freak, but I see ties The swarm of flies killing On the kid Another one of those stupid moments of the film Like just seeing the swarm of flies start against the moon. I was just like, oh my gosh. Here we go It's dumb. It's idiotic this whole insect telepathy thing I know our gento obviously liked it because he wanted to make a sequel to this, but It's just you buddy Well, not just you but I'm sure there are people out there who really liked it and you can comment down there and let me know But I particularly hated it.   I don't know he showed up and you're like, oh She saved and all of a sudden whoop. There goes his head Didn't see that coming. That was a fun surprise.  Did she see that? I don't think she saw that when like the insects Came down and killed her son. I don't think she saw that so I don't know It doesn't it doesn't seem to jive with the actual story and what what was before it that she would actually know that plus In real life, that's a weird thing for someone to make an assumption about or think that it's actually a real thing That people can have telepathy with insects. So it's just weird but anyway the point is Then the monkey comes out and starts slashing her with a straight razor and uh, that's another surprise Right on the heels of the surprise of the dude having his head whipped off So it was like, okay. That's a crazy ending. So I mean, I appreciate the ending for that reason um All right, so some kind of wrapping up things the acting's kind of rough in this the line delivery seems like kind of labored there's a lot of It doesn't move at a normal conversational pace like people would actually deliver These lines of dialogue it moves a lot slower And so it feels kind of labored. So the acting's not not so hot in this Donald Pleasance is probably the best part of it acting wise Um The pacing is pretty slow in this like I talked about the you have a bunch of these scenes That kind of seem a little too drawn out should really have been cut down more You know, uh, Jennifer's insect connection is just too much for this movie I can't say it enough. It's too much for the movie It's this weird kind of left turn thing That you don't need for the film because what's at the heart of this? What are we really trying to get out of this film? We're trying to figure out who the killer is because that's the conflict murders There's someone out there murdering people. Okay. Let's solve that All this stuff with the insect Telepathy it's just a left turn into like nowhere'sville And it's dumb the way it's integrated is is not good. It's terrible to be honest. It's laughable And I don't like it But obviously the film looks really good because it's Argento and he always looks, you know, he always looks good his films always look good because he's got an eye and The people he uses for his cinematographers are always excellent cinematography is great looks great Like I said locations are amazing So I like this film just for the Argento-ness of it, but the story overall is very convoluted. Not so great So um now that leads me to my star rating for this film I feel kind of conflicted on it So part of me wants to give it a two overall because I'm not That into it because the story is kind of crappy, but it looks really awesome and I always like the location selections those are always really great and There are a lot of cool kind of surprises in it, especially at the end So I'm going to upgrade it to a two and a half. I think putting it strictly in the middle makes sense to me Yeah, I don't I don't feel super strongly about it being good obviously, but I feel somewhat That it wasn't a very good movie, but you know, there's there's enough to kind of redeem it a little bit So two and a half stars. No, excuse me two and a half stars on that But thanks everyone for checking out this review put some comments down there If you have seen phenomena, what are your thoughts on it? Do you love it? Do you hate it or in the middle? Whatever, also, what's your favorite Argento film in general? Like I said might be kind of deep red for me I really like that one Hit that subscribe for me do me that quick favor. I really appreciate it. 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I would have made him stay for dinner and I would have said to him to make arrangements for another day. We've counted 180 CCTV cameras along Noah's route. And as far as we know from the place, there's only about 22 cameras that have Noah on footage. My child was still missing. Nobody knew where Noah was and they didn't even take her to the police station and ask her questions about how that app top came to be in her bedroom. 6-11 was the last time he was seen. He was naked and he was run and he was exhausted. And he was run and exhausted naked. And I have to stress this, just a minority and there's always a minority and either sides, Catholic and Protestant, are very racist. How did my baby know that storm drain existed and also know that the storm drain was unlocked? How did my baby know that? If they tell me that, if they prove to me that, then I will, and I've said to everybody, I will start listening to what they're saying, but it doesn't make sense to me. You don't know what deserves. You know what deserves the truth. I believe somebody harmed my baby. I believe somebody harmed my baby. I just don't want to think about it. But I think the police believe that's what the outcome would be. If a truth came out that paramilitaries were involved. And we're on. Today's guest we've got Fiona Donohoe. How are you Fiona? Okay I'm good. Thanks for speaking with me James. Yeah we've been speaking quite a bit and we just feel as if it's time now to try and shed more light on your son Noah who is sadly taking from you. And 21st June 2020 is that correct? Yeah. There's a lot of unanswered questions.  First and foremost how are you Fiona? I tell you truth I am angry. I'm angry. I'm sad. But the angers burn me on. They get answers for Noah and that's why I'm sad with you James is they just make some sense of what happened unless he never came home on the 21st of June when he should have. I'll always go back to the start of my guest first Fiona. Get a bit of understanding about you and your life and so we can put all the pieces together where people can simplify it for a lot of people and people can get your answers that you need. But let's go back to where you were born and where you were raised. Yeah. Well I was brought up in Sturban's, Cointetrone's just on the border, Donegal with my family. There was five of us, five children. I left to go to university in Southampton and I didn't finish it. I went on to do other things and then went to America as a nanny and then looking after elderly and I became pregnant with Noah so came back because I was illegal over there so I wanted the best opportunities for Noah and I wouldn't have been able to give that to him over there. I did come back and stay in Sturban with Noah for a few years but my thing was always to be a good role model for my son and so there's not much work in Sturban so Noah and I worked in civil service for a while and then when that contract was up I moved to Belfast and I've worked most of my life with Noah and the NHS's administrator administration and basically Noah, I thought Belfast was going to be a place where Noah would have opportunities and it was a place where he enjoyed he had so many opportunities here he went to grammar schools in Malkes which is a great school on the Antrim Road in North Belfast he made some amazing friends, they're like brothers they actually were like brothers I call them the band of brothers now he excelled he excelled in school he got 99% in his Spanish he was just brilliant at music he played the cello he played basketball and rugby he was just a child that any parent would be so proud to have him I knew I was so blessed with Noah I should always say to him how amazing he was he just never ever gave me any baller he never gave me any baller he was like my way he was my soulmate How was it in Belfast for you to know at the time also Belfast is a tough place was everything fine before that was any baller or anything that happened to him beforehand? Noah never Noah was a child he was an academic his life was learning his life was learning I was a single parent we were in social housing Noah was McStraith we kept ourselves to ourselves Noah's activities as friends I went to work in Orwebubble it was Orwebworld through Covid obviously it was three months in the Covid whenever the lockdown was hard his friends and him always kept in contact through Discord on the social media platform where they can best time more or less Noah was so excited they met his friends again actually give them a hug because we are huggers we are huggers as friends they're that close to the day they just love each other where we lived it's called the Holylands the affair of a melting pot of students of people that aren't from Belfast aren't from Ireland and also through Covid there was a hostel that opened up a crisis hostel that was just about 100 metres away from where Noah and I lived not even 100 metres and through Covid I had noticed a crowd of people that started loidding around that were they were staying in the hostel but then they attracted other types of people friends or whatever and I had made complaints to the hostel I had made complaints to the management of the hostel I just thought that they were the best sort of crowd especially there were students around as well and these people I had seen a few things happen outside our apartment and I just didn't think I think that the management in the place should be taking responsibility for it what kind of stuff? well I will say there was there was an overdose just outside our apartment in Ambulance there was I did see a drug dealing taking place just outside our apartment Noah was so laid back he wouldn't even he would have said to his mommy don't worry don't worry that's the type of me I just like if you can try and stop something like that happening then that's what I tried to take the steps to maybe stop that happening outside our apartment I didn't want that around where we were living a single mother you want to prevent things from taking danger away from your son and potentially anything that will happen well it's not even I knew Noah would never have to because Noah and I were always together when we went outside the apartment even if I went to shop Noah went with me but our apartment was very well secured but as I said I did make a few complaints I will say I am quite distinctive with my hair Noah was very distinctive as well he was very tall and as I said mixed race and he was always with me that would have been where we were living at the time now on the 21st of June Noah had said to me that the day before actually I have to say he went and met his friend Jay for the first time in three months they went in the town they had a lovely day together and the next day they had arranged to meet with their other friend who Noah hadn't seen in the three months they were going to go to Kiev Hill which is a beautiful location in North Belfast where just up the road from where Noah's school would have been Noah had on the day that Noah went and said to me that he was going to meet his two friends and go to Kiev Hill and it was by half five and I said to him why don't we have dinner but I knew how much it meant to him seeing his friend the day before and he hadn't seen his other friend I thought what right have I like to stop him meeting his friends after three months of lockdown but I said to him you have to be back by eight o'clock and Noah was the type of child he understood how important it was whenever we had made an arrangement to stick the arrangement and he always did he always always did I had said to him whenever you get over day I'm your friend you phone me from his phone because Noah didn't have money on his phone and I look back now in hindsight and I like to put out there every parent things that I look back and I think I didn't take if I could change things now I wouldn't have let him go I wouldn't have let him go I would have made him stay for dinner I would have made him stay for dinner and I would have said to him to make arrangements for another day does that play in your mind every day? another thing that plays in my mind and this is important for parents is I didn't have his friends contact numbers it's just simple things like that where I had said to Noah you should be over there by half six so you phone me so I know that you're there and half six I think it's a mother's instinct I have six I never got a phone call and I thought Noah should have rang me by now now it was a bright sunny day Noah had cycled over and I kept ringing Noah's phone and it was a new phone, it was charged he didn't answer and I don't know I just thought this isn't Noah for him not to be in contact and I wouldn't know when I would worry so Noah left your house at 5.41? he had left at 5.30 between 5.35 there's a lot of question marks on CCTV police saying that Noah will play straight away we'll go through the full steps of that so people can get an understanding you don't know who's watching us to come forward so Noah left yours at 5.41 and then you started feeling something was wrong at 6.30 yourself do you know what? I just like you don't want to be irrational and overreact but something just because Noah was such a good child and we made arrangements I knew whenever an hour was more than enough time an hour was more than enough time for him to go to his destination to meet his friends and I just thought there's something not right there's CCTV of Noah leaving the apartment he had a helmet and all on there's CCTV of him we've counted 180 CCTV cameras along Noah's route and as far as we know from the police there's only about 22 cameras that have Noah on footage out of 180 now if there's 180 CCTV cameras and a child is missing then I would expect every other parent they expect to see him that the police will take every single CCTV camera knock on the business door knock on a residential and ask them can we check your CCTV there's no amount of money that police resources that can a child is like when a child is missing you take every step that you have to take and with the CCTV cameras they didn't there's a on Noah's route through the city centre there's a blind spot of 180 metres now I have to let people know in Belfast because of the troubles Belfast is probably the most CCTV city in the UK I don't even know as far as Europe or whatever but in the UK they don't have trees in the city centre it's just so it's not the obstructing case something happens in the city centre and that's because of the troubles now Grafwych Twyrstwyth is in the city centre and it was on Noah's route and Noah would have taken that route going to school and there's no CCTV footage there yet if you go down Grafwych Twyrstwyth there's CCTV cameras everywhere police CCTV traffic on the traffic light CCTV and businesses and the police are trying to tell us that there's no CCTV footage there but keeping that in mind a witness came forward and she gave a statement to our solicitor a five page statement saying that she was with a group of men four men they were drug addicts and that these four men may have attacked Noah and it just so happens that it's in that area where there's a 180 metres blind spot of no CCTV I'll also put out there's a lot of investment in that area there's over 700 million points of investment in that small area I don't know what maybe due to such investments people may not know may not want it to be known that that's an area where your child could get attacked there's a university there there's going to be residential student residentials buildings there through investments that's a lot of money and um I put this out on Twitter and I was through my solicitor a university solicitor got in contact and was going to take me to High Court because of me putting that out on Twitter I'm just stating the fact there's over 700 million points investment in that blind spot area it doesn't look good for investors from overseas for any investors if there's drug addicts around that area that may attack a child there are no CCTV cameras I'll give you an example later on last year I'd CCTV operators from the police were able to track down um thieves that stole somebody's wallet in the 180 meter blind spot area where NOAA there's no CCTV of my NOAA they could track down a wallet in that blind spot area through their eagle eyed CCTV camera operators so I am angry and I'm just putting out facts um that's way on my mind about what doesn't weigh up Was there somebody else attacked a month before NOAA went missing? Yes, but that was in a different area can I first of all say there's so many coincidences around the witness and the foreman if you go back to when I said about me complaining about the hostel right um there's so many coincidences and I want to get to the bottom of these coincidences NOAA had a NOAA went with his rogue sack and the rogue sack was a laptop and a few books um where the attack was meant to happen NOAA's rogue sack um NOAA and this rogue sack you know they were he no longer had it in this um 180 meter blind spot um the laptop was in the rogue sack the eyewitness who's long with the foreman a lady who has been named in the newspapers just um the laptop was found in her room and her room coincidentally is in the hostel that is only a few meters away from where we live that I have been complaining about there's CCTV footage of NOAA going down past the hostels and the people that were meant to have attacked NOAA NOAA goes down the bike and they look down down the road as NOAA has gone down on the bike now just because these people may not have an abode doesn't mean that they don't know people who drive cars so maybe on one side of the city do you know the other side of the city but for some reason these people were on the other side of the city as well it doesn't make sense the girl who made the statement her and a gentleman who has been named in the newspapers went and tried to sell NOAA's laptop in a pawn shop it didn't have a charger so they couldn't sell it the laptop that was as I said was found in this girl's room um I'm going to put it out there that the police went into her room she was sleeping in the room they searched for the laptop and then they let her go back to sleep or maybe phone friends they did not arrest her they did not take her to the police station and questioned her and NOAA was still missing at this time my child was still missing nobody knew where NOAA was and they didn't even take her to the police station how that laptop came to be in her bedroom one of the gentlemen a college gentleman that was meant to have attacked NOAA also lived in that hostel and he moved out of the hostel the day after NOAA went missing was he ever questioned no none of these people we put the statement the five page statement to the police with a letter citing possible manslaughter and none of these people oh gosh there's been no arrests only for one person who was with this girl to sell the laptop is that Darryl Paul? yes thank you for mentioning I have a policy of not mentioning names he had nearly 200 convictions very violent some of them were violent convictions the thing is this is another coincidence and it is confusing because I can't get my head around it at all is the girl that was with Darryl Paul as you mentioned to sell a laptop she had been with Darryl Paul earlier on the Sunday and I'd seen the CCTV demo looking down the street at NOAA going past on the bike and then she was with a separate four men that possibly attacked NOAA Darryl Paul this was we'll estimate it around quarter quarter to six maybe in the city centre ten to six Darryl Paul who hadn't been with him in the statement about the eyewitness in the attack he found NOAA's rug sack later that evening in Great Victoria Street and there's too many coincidences around this Darryl Paul the police went to Darryl Paul's residence they found the rug sack they found NOAA's books and they did not forensically check Darryl Paul's residence and NOAA was still missing they didn't do any forensics they found NOAA's bike in his apartment NOAA was still missing and they didn't even forensically check his apartment it's 6-11 as well was that the last sign of NOAA? 6-11 was the first time that we were given that NOAA was last seen and I did see the video of the last footage 6-11 was the last time he was seen he was naked and he was run and he was exhausted and he was run and he was exhausted and he was run and exhausted naked and in an area he didn't know in a very densely populated street a cul-de-sac the top of the street and it looks like he's going into the back of one of the houses the time the time there was another CCTV camera and it showed the penultimate one the one before he was last seen it showed NOAA cycling up a turn off into that street and he looked exhausted then you know your child, you know a police officer that doesn't know a child wouldn't know their mannerisms wouldn't know it was exhausted cycling at the same time that NOAA turns that corner into that street there's a silver car that turns at the same time the police have come back with the last CCTV timing from 6-11 they've cut it down three times from 6-11 to 6-08 to 6-03 and the pathology report says 6-05 so four times this time has been changed and to me that means it cuts down anytime where anybody could have seen anything well could have maybe told NOAA to take his clothes off or you know came into contact with NOAA to take his clothes off now as you said about seeing anything there are two eyewitnesses that we know of on that street and remember it was a sunny day one eyewitness are both mothers one of the eyewitnesses says that she's seen NOAA cycle naked up the street and she thought it was a father's day prank she goes out of the house and she sees two men at the top of the street NOAA cycling towards these two men now I've said and I will continue to say you do not have to touch a child NOAA wouldn't have been street wise he wouldn't have been around men would have been teachers that would have been authority figures if two scary men stand and shout at a child get up the street now take your clothes off they don't have to touch that child that child is going to be terrified she didn't phone the police until 30 hours later and she says it was a father's day prank she has said she didn't speak to anybody else in the street at the very top of the street where the CCTV footage was seen at the cul-de-sac another mother looked out her window and she's seen NOAA naked and she thought it was her next door neighbour doing a father's day prank they both said they thought it was a father's day prank yet neither of them were meant to have spoken to each other this area that NOAA was last seen he wouldn't even have known that area he's never ever had any reason to be in that area NOAA was always with me or with his friends from school doing activities he would never have known that area Belfast as most people would know is divided Catholic Protestant and thank goodness things have gotten better but it's still there's still a divisive element there's still a minority on either side who with power and military still involved and the area that NOAA was last seen in is a loyalist stronghold NOAA was mixed race that area has has been known to be and not all just a minority and a hefty stress is just a minority and there's always a minority and either side Catholic and Protestant are very racist the prior a few weeks prior the NOAA being attacked another child from the same school as NOAA was on his bike he was pushed off his bike by a man and about 15 boys attacked this child and thank goodness this child knew the area and was a cross-country runner and knew where to run to and thank God he got away safe there's been other attacks the interface is Catholic and Protestant there's an interface this was called and there's been numerous attacks on children there was an attack on a child similar kind of situation this is what I need people to understand this child was on a bike there was a car of young adults and an adult and they were trying to attack this child the child cycled away to an area he didn't know and thank God escaped but he didn't know where he was and this is my thing NOAA didn't know the area he was in NOAA's when the police got NOAA's electronics devices they checked all his devices to see his search on google everything to see who he had been speaking to etc the last search on NOAA's laptop before he left the house was Cave Hill because that is where my NOAA was going to Cave Hill to meet his friends if NOAA had a wanted to go to a loyal hysteria that he didn't know and go down a storm drain he would have been searching for that and there was nothing on NOAA's devices to lead the police to believe that he was searching for that there was a specialist phone calls, text messages absolutely nothing the last message he sent on instagram was to his friend with Cave Hill what's the some of they say get hit with a car as well and fell off his bike so the CCTV footage that we have seen about Sargeham Yurtclark was the person who came out and made a statement that NOAA on the Wednesday that NOAA may have had a concussion because he had fallen and hit his head the CCTV footage that relates to this statement I've seen and my sister's seen and we can say without a doubt NOAA did not hit his head he got up extremely quickly actually there's another piece of CCTV footage after that and you can see NOAA started turning and looking behind him NOAA had a helmet on when I had identified NOAA was covered in mud and he looked like he was sleeping he looked beautiful, he could see his wee braces he looked like he was sleeping but I couldn't see any bumps or anything but when NOAA was in the coffin and I got to see him all cleaned up with clothes and all up there was on his forehead there was the circumference of it was 16 centimetres, it was a massive massive bruise it wasn't a bruise at that stage because of whatever way but there was a massive injury to his head and on the side of his face and it wasn't from a fall of his bike as Sergeant Murrow-Clark had put out to the public he said that but he was being proactive basically because NOAA was still missing on the Wednesday and there was no CCTV footage that I have seen to show that NOAA hit his head Murrow-Clark also said no foul play he had said it, it was very quick the autopsy I think had just been done but no foul play you haven't even investigated what I believe is the police have gone from my phone call which I never wanted to make a phone call because it was basically a mynton to myself, I was trying to be rational a mynton to myself that someone was really wrong that NOAA, Corde 10 I phoned the police and I didn't want to phone them because I was outside, I didn't want to walk anywhere in case NOAA came from either side but I phoned the police, I answered the questions I went over the past few weeks NOAA was hormonal, he was 14 years old his mood was up and down like any other 14-year-old they're taking it from my phone call that NOAA basically went in that storm drain himself but what I keep pushing to everybody including my solicitor and barister because I need them to understand this is so important if the police can tell me how NOAA knew that storm drain existed at the back of houses when some people on that street didn't even know that storm drain existed and they lived there 20 years how did my baby know that storm drain existed and also know that the storm drain was unlocked how did my baby know that if they proved to me that then I will and I've said to everybody I will start listening to what they're saying but it doesn't make sense to me you know what deserves what deserves the truth he's such a beautiful soul they're trying to they're trying to put that out of the that NOAA went there intentionally himself and there's no way there's no way so when NOAA at 6-11 when they say it was cycloneaked how far was that footage to the storm drain it was on that street his pants and his shorts were never found and on the Tuesday I went over I wanted to go over and his bike had been found on that street and the person that the bike was found outside this person's house it took them 24 hours to find the police it took as I said the two eye witnesses 30 hours to phone the police they could have saved NOAA's life all they had to do was phone the police and say if they were afraid they would go out you know where did they think NOAA was disappeared to they seen NOAA cycle up up to the top of a cul-de-sac their parents where did they think my baby went where did they think he went and they waited 30 hours to phone the police I had gone over on the Tuesday morning to try and see because they had told me that it was a small area and there was barbed wire it was naked and they would expect me to believe that NOAA climbed over barbed wire or climbed over the backs of about 40 houses walls of back gardens that's why they couldn't find them I didn't know about this massive storm drain I wanted to go over and the police wouldn't let me up they searched for NOAA so I just shouted out his name if it's a small area it has to be in one of the houses they need to start checking the houses but on that Tuesday some of his clothes are not found the police never cordoned the street off for forensics the police let the bin to empty the bins they go up and look for my baby they you know there's been a lot of when NOAA was missing a lot of good people from both sides of the community went out and searched for NOAA and the police let them they had such great intentions will be forever grateful but the police let them walk over a possible crime scene they never did forensics on any handles of back doors there's four houses out the backs that heard screaming that night they never oh my god I'm saying about NOAA's clothes not being found and just after Christmas the police, the PSNI Service of Northern Ireland put out on media about a coat that was lost in a pub in the city centre now this coat underneath now this was put out on media that the police are trying to track down a coat that was lost in a pub in the city centre and they want to reunite the coat with the owners so there was nothing happened to the owner yet they, my child was missing and they let the bin lorries go under that straight and they didn't find it important they found my baby's clothes for forensics they left what clothes they did find they left in a non-sealed bag in the police station that could have been contaminated that's what they could say happened, a non-sealed bag they left his bike outside one of the buildings in the police station by forensics, fingerprints the laptop they never checked the laptop for fingerprints there hasn't been one out of forensics done in those cases another important point is the storm drain out the back of these houses and the houses there's a couple of houses that look onto that storm drain and they're telling me that Noah went down that storm drain himself and the thing is that Noah was scared of the dark now this storm drain was pitch black and they're telling me that Noah went through a pitch black storm drain 950 metres to give you some idea 950 metres is about 9 football pitches and they're telling me Noah went down that storm drain that distance himself around corners and I would ask the person who's brave enough to go that far down a storm drain to come forward and do it they've never done a reconstruction the police have never done a reconstruction we're trying to get a reconstruction done these are the things that should be done when a child is missing the storm drain itself was unlocked but it was checked just three days prior by the department infrastructure it was checked three days prior it was unlocked and they're telling me that Noah knew that storm drain was there I knew that storm drain was unlocked to get in there where does the storm drain run to? the storm drain runs it's freshwater sea water it runs it goes quite a distance the thing when somebody's found drowned and that's what the pathology report that stated Noah died from drowning the first thing that a pathologist has to do and I didn't know this but you learn as you go through the whole process is that they have to take a water sample because there's things called diatoms and my solicitor brought that to our knowledge in a meeting with the coroner and the inspector involved in Noah's investigation and this was about a month after Noah was found and he stated it was very important that we get the water sample and straighten like that inspector was sitting across the table from myself, my sister and my solicitor and said yeah he agreed yet it's come to pass that Noah was found on the 27th of June it's come to pass that on the 27th of June the pathologist requested the water sample and that inspector who sat across the table from us he was made aware that water sample was needed and the water sample was never taken it's important that you have a water sample as I was saying because somebody drowned you have to make sure that the water they were finding is the same in the lungs because it could mean that they may have drowned somewhere else and been placed in a different water so it has to correlate if you haven't got a water sample you can't you can't say definitively that that person drowned in that place specific spot but this is it's vitally important in a police investigation when that's the situation to have a water sample and as we say you start with incompetence first there's so many things, no forensics at all there's so many things that have been incompetent but is it incompetence because so when Noah was in the drain was there not scientifically proven science behind that that was only refuting the hands that had water yeah we have experts as I said about the water sample the experts are trying to ascertain if the nose body been that drain for six days how should his body have looked been submerged in water that we are with the experts investigating that it seems that because as I said I had seen Noah and other than the gash day when he was cleaned up he looked perfect there was no bloating he just looked beautiful but in the pathology report his hands and his feet were the only parts of his body that looked like like they have been submerged in water for a period of time I also have to say that come to the attention of the newspaper that there was two criminals in prison and criminal A divulged to criminal B that he had taken part in the murder of my son criminal B when he got out of prison he came and contacted people within our team and he came of his own accord gave a full statement said what had been divulged by criminal A the police never took that serious criminal A says that they drowned Noah in a bathtub they've never they've never been questioned so that's why it's important as well for the water sample to have been took from the drain because then it may have matched differently from the bath in this statement from criminal B who did come forward he said that criminal A who may have taken part in Noah's murder that they had then got paramilitaries paramilitaries took part in get rid of Noah's body but the police never took that serious either they never took it serious and they haven't taken it anything that we brought forward to the police they haven't taken serious why do you think they want to cover the whole thing up because it can cause a lot of... the social arrest I do believe that that would be the underlying reason that they don't want to deal with nobody wants to nobody wants that to happen and Noah Noah my goodness he would not let that happen he would not have great faith in Noah such a beautiful soul but I think the police believe that that's what the outcome would be if a truth came out that paramilitaries were involved troubles could start again but can I make it really really clear because Noah wasn't brought up with division like we're all equal and that's how Noah felt as well there are so many amazing people on both sides of the community this is not my talking to you today maybe I'm really honest and truthful about what I think happened my baby there's more good people on each side of the community and it's just that minority and it's the minority that they poison the whole community it's a minority that I believe may have been involved in my son's death there's so many unanswered questions for yourself so many mistakes so much with the bag as well was that not near a camera did somebody not pick the bag up when they were seen but yet they never seen the camera with the bag getting put down the camera that we were showing where Noah's Rocksack is no longer with him it's a very bad CCTV footage and the CCTV is vile that would bring everything together because these two men at the top of the street who were they why did they not stop Noah two men at the top of the street Noah was naked and these two men who are they who are these two men there has been speculation and we've been told not to speculate but I'll speculate all I want because I'm Noah's mum and I want justice and I want the truth there's been speculation that the police went in on Friday before Noah was found and did that area and said to the power multary organisation that if you don't give up Noah's body then we'll come in and wreck the place meaning we'll come in, we'll find your drugs and Noah's body was found down on the Saturday morning six days later how was that for a murder? when did it also break in the news how many days later? on the Tuesday evening I had requested an inspector come and speak to me because I wanted the houses searched he came and I videoed him because I needed evidence because I wanted them to get once and get into people's houses and they said there's no way that they could go into people's houses that the only way to go into somebody's house was for me Noah's mummy to ask these people the police are public servants people pay taxes if anything ever happens that you can trust them do the job they're meant to do and yet they're saying that I as Noah's mummy had a request people to open their doors and let the police search I did put a request out on the police's the police's facebook page and I'm wondering did any of those people in that cul-de-sac ever open their doors because I know if you're not on the hide you'll let them go into your attic you'll let them go into every cupboard you'll open your doors, it's a child you will do anything you can to help I don't know if any of them ever opened their doors I would like to define that out on the Wednesday then we were basically more or less pushed into the press release about Noah possibly being concoest or know if you're in not understanding the type of boy Noah was put out at the end of the statement if you're in a friend's house then you're not in trouble he didn't understand the type of boy Noah was he wouldn't have been in a friend's house he just wasn't that type of 14 year old that happens all the time to me it was they didn't understand Noah's character you need to know the character of the child that you're trying to find it's come to pass that an internal police review this means your best body that you go to the T-room with is going to write a report on your investigation so that review was done within the police the police service and it came to pass that even your best body police officer has said that resources were not put into place for a missing child last in 2020 in the year that Noah went missing the service in Northern Ireland in overtime paid 32 million in Northern Ireland overtime now this is a missing child my Noah is a missing child and they didn't think it important to pay overtime for my child to be found that should be a priority for any missing child so after the 6 days you got feeling of mother's instincts you probably felt that the 6 days was it a phone call you got my sister and I this is unless you're in that situation you'll understand you'll do anything I contacted a psychic and on the Saturday morning me and my sister went down the psychic she gave me great comfort but she told me lots of things she says it would be like a jug-cell puzzle but she didn't say she didn't say that she thought Noah was dead but she said it so lovely and she was coming up she came up in the car with me and my sister and she was going to do a walk of where she thought Noah Noah's route was and try and find him when we got in my apartment the police were the liaison officers were sitting waiting and the liaison officers were so cold and callous and you know if I had if I had heard it from them first I don't think I could have handled it but for her I think for her they say that to me sort of buffered she said it so gently and was love if I had heard it from the police officers you know I don't know I've got great faith and she's a very spiritual person and she gave me some kind of peace that Noah would see if not and I just think if I had heard it from the police they wouldn't have cared about how they didn't care about how they put it to me actually I just doubt How do you think the police has treated this whole case? In the report that I had said about the resources not been put in and I had felt that throughout the time period and I had put it to the chief constable in questions about manners and he had basically deflected from proper answer but it did come out in that report that was true you know there are in the first couple of days before the liaison officers there was a beautiful chief constable Allison sorry constable Allison she's just so compassionate and you knew that she was in the police to help people I found the higher up that having to deal with superintendents and chief constables there's no compassion there was in the report that says about missing missing person fatigue you should never have that kind of mentality when a report comes in of a child missing within 72 hours of a child missing it's the most crucial hours and the first night of the search it was raining but not heavy we're in Ireland the police expect rain and they called off the search for no one the community was naked they called off the search for Minoa because they were afraid for the health and safety of their police officers and it wasn't mountainous terrain it was back gardens of an urban area and they called off the police search for my child in the crucial time period I have so many issues with the noise investigation and as I said before we'll start with incompetence but the further I go on and where I find out there's more than incompetence involved I will say something that's you're talking corruption I'll believe I'll give you an example now that would make me speculate in that and how dare anybody say I cannot speculate as Noah's mommy there's a thing that the police can request from court called public interest immunity certificate I keep hitting it forward Noah was part of the public I'm part of the public everybody that cares for Noah, Noah's army the people that really support finding justice for Noah we're all part of the public and as I say it's in all of our interest in the safety of all our children I don't want this ever happening in all our family in all our child we get the truth for Noah that nothing is hidden there saying it was there was no foul play then there's no need to hide anything there's no need to hide anything if you're telling the truth so why are the police trying to stop me getting information disclosure I have professional people legal people have said that the only reason in Northern Ireland that they'll ever request a public interest immunity certificate is if there's intelligence informers paramilitaries involved the information and disclosure I've already got is alarming to me already so I wonder if that's alarming to me already what do they not want me to read we'll never be able to get justice for my baby if we don't get all the information and this is part of the reason James that I'm sitting in front of you today we go to the Secretary of State and he makes a decision if I get that information and I need pressure put from whatever angle that can be put on the Secretary of State that he cannot stop me as Noah's mommy Noah was such a beautiful soul like he would have done he was going to excel in whatever he did in his life and his life is oh my goodness they better give me that disclosure I need to fight them putting that certificate on disclosure for Noah I cannot let them do because we'll never get answers what's the police says about the whole investigation what has they run down at all the police as I said the police are going with a narrative either suicide or it's misadventure they brought in a psychologist who deals with who's been used before by this corner who deals with custodial adult suicide now Noah was a child he was never in prison and I know for a fact my baby would never leave me or his friends it's so much to live for they brought a psychologist and psychiatrist and the expert reports for the corner to bring up Noah's mental health Noah never had any mental health problems he was never a doctor it's so healthy they are going down this narrative root and you know that's giving them a way out of answering what actually happened my baby and just keeping your head know it and know that storm drain existed and the storm drain was open there's a mother's instincts and information that you have what's your rundown on it all oh my goodness I just believe I try and block out what I think happened my baby but I have to take it because whatever went through whatever my baby went through he was alone he didn't have me he didn't have me to protect him and you know I just there could be people out there that harmed my baby and they're still out there and you know I do believe somebody harmed my baby I do believe somebody harmed my baby I do believe it and that you know there's been anonymous calls where people have said they have information but they have to keep their family safe first and they've never phoned back and I know I would appeal to anybody you know I know it would be difficult for anybody because of you know there's fear in certain communities because of paramount race but there are ways my solicitor we will make sure that anybody that comes forward with information is kept safe and you know if you have any belief in God you know you have to come forward and you know how can you live you know it was a beautiful child I would just pray that somebody is brave enough to come forward and give information I'm praying like do you have faith that somebody will do the right thing and do you understand the fear but you know nothing will change if people can't speak up and you know these paramount race are bullies they bully their own communities and I just I just yeah I just can't take it and Noah Noah's life stands for something and Noah wouldn't take bullies either and I just think people are afraid because you know that's what the bullies want Do you believe Noah was murdered Fiona? I can't say that word I believe somebody harmed my baby I believe somebody harmed my baby I just don't want to think about it As a mother Fiona you're so brave to just keep going and trying to find answers and to not give up and for me those questions I said I'm not a police officer I don't know all the answers but for me looking at the outside and hearing what you're saying and watching certain videos those question marks everywhere could it be a potential that if Noah was killed and it was from a certain group that if that was true then it could potentially start rising chaos again But this is it there was two meetings that myself and my sister went There was one meeting where we had any questions for the inspector involved in Noah's investigation in the corner They never answered our questions but they made sure they put it across to us because media have not been taking this on it's been a media blackout and that's why I've come to you and I'm so grateful for your platform for Noah's voice Why is that? The media, you know, Northern Ireland Has there been talk to be quiet or did they just think that you're just a mother grieving that? This was the thing at the start is Sergeant Muir Clarke put out let the family grieve Grief is a lifetime when did he think my grief would stop This is never going to stop What I believe he was trying to do was distance the public's want for answers by respectfully letting the family grieve and then slowly wipe it all under the carpet and I just thought it just clicked with me one day it was like 8 weeks and they're doing nothing they're doing absolutely nothing and then it just clicked, you're trying to wipe us under the carpet when we were in the meeting we've had to put out our own social media platforms because as I said the media are not taking it on because it would cause social unrest The chief or the inspector and the coroner twice in the meeting says could you just put a statement out on your platforms more or less worden it so that there wouldn't be social unrest like that's all their concern the greater good will I'll tell you this my Noah is my everything their consequences let them deal with that their public servants pet the resources and whatever my thing as Noah's mommy is I'll not stop and I will say what I have to say to get answers for Noah the media, I'm just absolutely disgusted at the media so disgusted Has anybody ever came forward and tried to silence yourself Jonah, told you to be quiet, I threatened you with any court papers yourself well the coroner and the attorney general it seems that I can be in contempt of court but then a newspaper article came out with the same information I was going to put out and were they in contempt of court but I'll be in contempt of court so why is that, just to silence you to try and make you forget it as if you're just going to forget your 14 son has been taken away from you but you're clearly a fighter and the time is now to try and get the answers that you want like you say you were living with this pain the rest of your life that's yourself but a bit of closure would take away some sort of pain where you know deep inside that there's so many unanswered questions there it must be such a difficult thing for you 18 months on and you've never really just let you go around in circles it's like they want to put you around in circles so that you spiral out of control and let me tell you there's many a day I have spiraled out of control and I probably will again but you know what I'll get myself grounded again and just come back they will not break me or my sister in this fight or Noah's army like there's a lot of very passionate people Noah is just such a beautiful beautiful soul and we don't want this ever to be repeated on another family if we just they're not going to break me I don't want to miss anything out here so is there anything that you want to touch on as well because it's important for people watching like I know a lot of people might be scared to come forward and give you answers but is there anything that we've missed out or anything that we can there's so much information on this and I know it'll be very hard to keep track of what I've just said but it is it really is just two main aspects they may want to talk today is to put pressure on on this public interest immunity certificate never getting the light of day because otherwise I'll not get the light of day on disclosure and answers that can't happen like there's legacy families and they'll never get answers I'm not letting that happen for Noah and the second thing is just appealing appealing to anybody anybody with any information oh my goodness please come forward just they may think it's insignificant but see that one little jigsaw piece it could add on to something that I already know and it could be so significant you know even if you think it's so insignificant I just come forward to my solicitor, Niall Murphy KRWS KRWS sorry just any any type of information first of all for coming on today and sharing your story you're a brave, brave woman, clearly a fighter anything I can ever help if I've got your back 100% how can people contact you if they've got information I want to tell you something Twitter platform maybe I can pass it on of course you can, you can leave that in the description you don't know who's got information out there and as you say, people are scared people are scared to give information because it potentially risks to their own life but there's a 14 year old kid missing whether it's racism involved whether it is, somebody's got answers whether it's a baby that's missing whether it's clearly distraught this is one of the reasons why you're here today so we can maybe get some closure as I say, you don't know who's watching but would you like to finish up on anything Fiona? just I'm just grateful for this platform it says the media are not giving Noah a voice Noah's voice deserves to be heard Fiona, cwm on a day to tell your story God bless you and anything I can help with in the future I'm on that phone call away Thank you James, thank you


From Las Vegas, it's theCUBE. Covering VMworld 2018. Brought to you by VMware and its ecosystem partners. Welcome back. This is theCUBE coverage of VMworld 2018. Always loved when we get to dig in with the practitioners here. I'm Stu Miniman, my co-host is Justin Warren. Welcome to the program. First time guest, Andrew Chavez, who's a network and information technology manager with Indian Pueblo Culture Center out of Albuquerque, New Mexico. Out of Albuquerque, New Mexico, that's correct. Thanks so much for joining us. Well, thank you so much for having me. All right, so first of all, tell us a little bit about your organization and your role. Well, the Indian Pueblo Cultural Center is kind of a touch point for all the 19 tribes in the state of New Mexico. It's actually one of the only places in the entire world where 19 tribes, 19 different cultures, really, of Native American people have gotten together, built a cultural center, and kind of have formed the gateway in Albuquerque, kind of the largest city in New Mexico, and the gateways to the Pueblo. So it's kind of a cool place. There's just a mix of a lot of neat people, a lot of the different Pueblo people come in and out. It's culturally just a great place to be, just a wonderful, cool place. And on top of that, we also formed the Pueblo Cultural Center formed a developer corporation. So not only do we have the cultural side, which is really neat, but we have this development side that is developing the old Indian schools. I don't know if you remember the cultural background of the Indian schools throughout the United States of America. They've actually taken some of the, taken the land for the cultural center and the Indian school and are repurposing it to really help out the cultural center and the 19 tribes as we give back to them. So is this nonprofit then or? We have a nonprofit side and a for-profit side. Okay, and it gives a little bit of the scope of the operation. You mentioned the tribes and everything, but is it multiple locations?  It's actually multiple locations. So we are actually housed in the cultural center itself, but directly across the street, we're building up places like hotels, restaurants, office buildings, things of that nature to kind of diversify the portfolio of things that we offer to the community at large. That money is given back to the stakeholders who are the 19 Pueblos. And I was brought in last year to kind of take what they were as an IT department and really improve on what they were doing, what they've already done and just kind of take what's already been done and make it better and really be able to serve not only the Pueblo Cultural Center, but I'm working to make a showcase there. If we can. So Andrew, maybe you could give us a bit of an idea of how IT supports the mission of the cultural center. So a lot of people worry that IT is just a cost center and it sits off on the end there and it's something that you have to pay for. So what are some of the things that IT enables the cultural center to do that they wouldn't be able to do otherwise? Well, some of the things that we do is cultural preservation is really one of the big things that we do. Because we do represent all the 19 tribes of New Mexico, different aspects of each of those tribes in terms of pottery, paintings, the very rich nature of the handcrafted pieces that the Pueblos take care of are all represented in the cultural center. So it's not only putting those, but it's cataloging, archiving them and help with the preservation and the dissemination of that information, right? So, you know, when we walk through our museum, it's all, all the things are automated. You can go in and have, you know, hear the different press buttons and hear the different languages, see how the pottery is made, see how a lot of these arts and crafts come together, see the history of the Pueblo people and kind of what happened and how really other cultures have interdispersed themselves and interweave themselves within really the rich history of the Pueblo people of New Mexico and how this overarching culture has really made a difference in the state and, you know, those preservations. And on top of that, it's using technology to be able to, again, disseminate it and show how those things work going forward. That's great stuff, Andrew. All right, so all the people that visit probably don't understand all the stuff that's behind the scenes.  So take us a little bit behind the curtain and tell us a little bit about what technologies you're using to help enable all of those great things that you talked about. Well, currently what we're using is we kind of started really green field. The folks that were there before me had worked in more of a single server, hot closet environment, some of the ways it used to be. There were a lot of consultants and the decision was made that to match a lot of the technology initiatives that are going on with the other Pueblos, cultural center needs to catch up. So that's one of the reasons why I was brought in. So one of the first things we did is say, what can we start doing? And so when you pull the curtain back, one of the things we really decided on was going to a full virtual environment and finding the right technology and the right player to help us put together a virtual environment, help us build out a data center and do some of those things. So that's kind of where we started. Started with a five-year plan on that build out and how to maximize not only the budgets that we have, but push those budgets through proper depreciation. So it was really kind of neat being able to go to a place that I could kind of just pick and choose the things I needed to move forward and kind of set the course for us moving forward. All right, so maybe could you tell us about some of the decisions you actually made there? So what did you choose and what led you to make that particular choice of technology provider? Well, initially I started out because I'd worked in a previous endeavor using UCS, the three-in-one solution. You have your OS, you have the host and then you have the NAS that's presented to the host and that's what originally what I was going to do because that's what I knew. But I went out to a conference called TribalNet and was introduced to Nutanix. And I was aware of Nutanix, but I hadn't delved into it. So I kind of talked to one of the reps out there Justin and he kind of talked me through Nutanix. When I got back, I searched out a place in Albuquerque called Artem Technologies who sells Nutanix and kind of sat with them. Now, the old UCS was less expensive because it's a little older technology and we didn't think we could get into a hyper-converged solution. But working with the Nutanix rep and my rep from Artem, they really found a way to make it affordable for us and get us into the hyper-converged technology which is where I wanted to go. So it was really kind of, that was the first big decision I made and I've been very happy with it. Excellent. So having made that decision and put it in, what are some of the things that you've now been able to do is given that this is where you wanted to go and thought maybe it wasn't going to be possible but now it is. So what's that enabled you to do that you were looking forward to being able to do? Well, it's been able for us to consolidate a lot of what we have. I mean, we haven't used it to its fullest potential because the implementation's only been in about five months but what we've been able to do is take those different single servers and move them into a virtualized environment and then be able to build out storage area and place user files and group files and all the disparate storage areas throughout that were siloed throughout the environment, put it on one single piece of equipment that we can watch. It's been able to allow us to move to a backup solution that goes to the cloud and isn't fractured, right? So it puts it all in one single area that we can watch and gives us a single pane of glass for all of our servers, which we didn't have before. It's just made us better at what we do really and be able to watch what we're doing a lot better. Yeah, Andrew, it's interesting. We talked for years about hyperconvergence. It's not just about converging into the footprint but it changes the model because it's really more of a distributed architecture. Maybe, I think you've got some geographic locations, maybe help discuss how that fits together between multiple locations, multi-cloud. It's not just about taking a couple of servers and putting it down to a smaller footprint. It's giving you more flexibility. And you've really hit the nail on the head for the five-year plan, right? So year one is like choose the vendor, choose the course, but the five-year plan is to be able to geographically disperse what we're doing. Because we're using Nutanix, it allows us to put a cluster, three-node cluster over here in a single box. We take another single box and put a two-node cluster over here and geographically disperse it. It also allows us, I talked about depreciation and this is something that I worked on in other places. What we did is we bought the Nutanix node that we have now for today, right? We plan on using that and buying a secondary node and using that for the next three years. As we build up the, remember I talked about having the development across the road, as we're building new buildings, we're going to build an alternate data center there. In the third year, we're going to take that piece of equipment and move that to the data center and build out a disaster recovery center. So when we buy the new Nutanix node, those two will now be joined. So not only are we sharing information between the two locations and have, you know, backups geographically dispersed, but we also have been able to, you know, we can use SRM a lot of different ways to keep the geographical locations up, keep business continuity. But the other portion that is really interesting to us is, you know, most technologies about a three-year depreciation schedule, right? We've been able to take that three-year depreciation schedule and because we're using the older technology as our backup business continuity center, that takes it out to a six-year depreciation, which extends the life of what we have and be able, you know, when we buy new equipment, it's the newest, greatest, we have the business continuity equipment. And then, of course, the nodes talk to each other, so we're doing data duplication across two locations. So really, when we're all done, we can have up to four to six sets of backups throughout any portion of the day. So it really protects our data and gives us a continuity that we wouldn't have before. As someone who really likes a good financial model and spends a lot of time in spreadsheets, working around with that, it's really good to hear someone from an IT arena talking about some of the financial impacts on this, some of the business impacts on this. And it shows that what is possible when IT takes an interest in the business issues and shows, and we were talking about this earlier on theCUBE, about how IT people getting a seat at the table, being able to have that conversation about the five-year plan, about what makes IT strategically important to the organization. And it's really great hearing customers actually talk about IT in that context. Well, that's one of the things that I think IT gets lost in. And as you know, with CIOs, CFOs, CEOs, IT is always seen as a cost center. And we'd eventually like to not be a cost center. We'd like to make money. But we have to be fiscally responsible. We have to be fiscally responsible for a number of reasons where I come from at the Indian Pueblo Cultural Center because we do have a responsibility to our shareholders. We have a responsibility to the Native American people that are taking care of us. We need to take care of them. So if we can find the technology that we need, that we can be a showcase, not only in the technological realm, but also how we budget and take care of money, that shows a huge commitment to what we're doing. And you can't be a showcase unless you're going to be fiscally responsible as well as technologically responsible. So that's what we're really trying to do. And Andrew, the other thing that strikes me from your conversation, you talk about this five-year plan. Sometimes we come to the shows and it's like, oh wait, I'm worried about lock-in and enterprise license agreement. Talk about what you look for in choosing partners that that'll be strategic that will be with you for this kind of engagement. Well, I'm looking for, everybody's always looking for cutting edge, right? But you need to have cutting edge with a background, with a roadmap, right? So what I look for in not only a partner that service me locally, but the larger vendor partners, for instance, Nutanix, I look for somebody who has a roadmap of what they're doing. Here's what we started with. You know, if I have a five-year plan, what's your five-year plan? What was your five-year plan? Where did you come from? Where are you going to? Can you show me what's going to go on over here? And that's one thing that I really liked about Nutanix is they had, yeah, here's what got us here. Here's how it's changing. Here's what we can show you moving forward. And here's how it can help you. And then my vendor, like in Albuquerque, I want the same things. Are you growing? Are you stagnant? What's your customer list? And then the last portion of that is really a relationship sell. There are people out there that will go buy from any vendor because that's what the price ensues. But I can't buy on just price because I need pricing and support and be able to, you know, one call. We used to say the one throat to choke. I don't like using that anymore. But you know, somebody you can drive to and have a conversation with. And that's one thing I've really respected about my vendors and I like from a customer perspective, it's people that are real, they come and see you. And then I can reach out to the, not only my local vendor, but the folks that support them. I do have to say with Nutanix, I met Justin, who was the rep from Nutanix. He got me involved with the sales engineer at that point and they were on site. They worked directly with me and had just built a great relationship around you know, this brand new purchase. Something I'm not familiar with, but it's a foray into a wider world. And it made me really comfortable with my decision. What's the most exciting thing that you're looking forward to? So you've seen the roadmap, or you've spoken to the vendors and you have an idea of what your five year plan is. What's the most exciting thing that's going to be coming up in the next few years? The biggest thing for me, and it's probably not even a new thing for Nutanix, but it's what Nutanix is built on. It's what you talked about, the geographical separation, you know, the node building and how we can, okay, you need more compute, we can give you more compute. You need more storage, we can give you more storage. You need to add something over here, we can do that. It's the flexibility it gives me to stick within budget, right? We don't have to do this huge budget every year to be able to prop up what we need. We can buy piece by piece and build it out. And again, part of that fiscal responsibility is being forward-looking and working with a company that's saying, hey, we can get you this today. We're going to take care of you. We're going to listen to your needs. We're going to get you what you need. And here's the bolt-on pieces as we move forward. So I think that's the most exciting piece is being able to grow within that framework.  And I think from an IT perspective, that's what we're doing. And from a cultural perspective, the Indian public cultural perspective, it's having that platform. So if we say from a museum standpoint, we found the latest and greatest software that's going to allow people to do virtual reality, but we need a backend to support it. I can say, I got that, you know, we've been able to build the platform to put that on. So it's been able, it's putting that platform in place, building on that platform, us growing into it, and then that company growing with us. And that's been something that's been just transformative for us. Well, Andrew, you talked about authentic conversations. We really appreciate you sharing your story with us. Be sure to check out indianplaybelow.org for all that they have to offer. I want to go check out the museum. You've got a great, you know, list of cultural activities there. So thanks so much for joining us. Yes, come and see us at the Indian Public Cultural Center. The best time to come is the first week in October for the Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta. We'd love to have you all. All right, for Justin Warren, I'm Stu Minin. I still have lots more coverage here from VMworld 2018. Thanks for watching theCUBE.


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