I think we'll get started. Good morning everyone and thanks for attending the Vermont 2020 General Election Audit. As most of you probably know and are aware, we had to postpone this from December when it was previously scheduled because of COVID. And part of it was that we were having the surge, but so was the Boston and Massachusetts area. So we consulted with Dr. Levine at the Department of Health and the decision was made to postpone it. Despite the challenges posed to our election process in 2020, Vermonters rose to the occasion voting and record shattering numbers during a global pandemic. Our decision to mail a ballot to every active registered voter resulted in new records, both for early voting and for total turnout. Vermonters were able to vote safely and securely without needing to decide between putting their health at risk, the health of their communities at risk, or exercising their constitutional right to vote. The audit of the 2020 General Election results we will be performing today is a best practice and has been required by state statute since 2006. The purpose of today is to verify the accuracy of the official results reported in November. It is an important administrative process which serves to build trust in the integrity and security of the Vermont elections process. We conduct the audit transparently, open to all members of the public who wish to attend, whether in person or virtually. Thanks to Orca Media, this audit will be live streamed, allowing us to make the process even more transparent for those who cannot attend in person, but who do wish to watch from home today or at a later date. Audits, again, are a best practice utilized across the country following the general election, while a specific process by which an audit is performed may vary from state to state. There are several characteristics which all reputable audits will share. One, transparency, which I've just mentioned. Two, independence. We are proud to partner with our trusted vendor, ClearBallot, to conduct this audit. ClearBallot has a national reputation for excellence and years of experience, including conducting our previous two audits in 2016 and 2018. The equipment being used today is completely different from the work, from the, and independent from the equipment that we used in the 2020 general election. These are not the same scanners, they're not the same systems. And that's an important aspect for auditing any system. Third, is security. By law, every ballot cast in the 2020 general election must be sealed and secure ballot bags and stored by the town and city clerks in Vermont in their vaults for 22 months. This is a federal mandate. The bags are sealed with tamper proof tags and there is a chain of custody and getting them to the polling place today. We can authorize the clerks to open a ballot bag if one, they sealed the original entrance checklist in the bag by mistake. Or two, they sealed the tabulator memory card into the bag. Or three, an SOS authorized audit such as this. And for any other reason, it would require a court order. Recounts are overseen by the courts so that opening bags for a recount is done by court order. Fourth, we have statistical confidence. The method by which we conduct this audit produces a very high degree of statistical confidence in the results. We will be verifying today the results for every ballot and every race in all seven towns. Prior to 2000, I think it was 12 or 14, we only did two races, a federal race and a state race and those were the only two races that we did. We now do every race, every ballot in the towns that have been randomly selected. Our random selections this time around are Brandon, Pownal, Randolph, Topsum, Warren, Worcester and South Burlington's Chittenden 7-4 district. The ballot bags are delivered either directly here, there are two towns that brought them today right here to this location or they are delivered to the custody of our office and our elections team took control of them. Today, one at a time, and I stress one at a time, we will break the seals and open those ballot bags and using the distinctly different tabulators that we have here today, conduct a full count of every ballot cast which shall be inclusive of every race on that ballot. We will then compare the audit results to those certified election results and we have copies of those over here reported to us by the town clerks in November. In the years since we started doing this, we have never seen any significant abnormalities between the audited results and the official results. In fact, in most cases, we find that the tabulator town counts are more accurate than hand count and that's not a knock on hand count, it's just the truth. Of course, if anything unusual is found, that would trigger the need to investigate and determine the cause and that would be done if we've received anything like that, we would take the initial look at it but turn it over to the Attorney General's office. We never expect that to be the case but it's important to understand that state law does govern the steps to be taken if there are significant unexplainable discrepancies. We will have a chance to review the results of the audit in real time on the screen above as we move between towns. Once the audit is complete, the ballots will be resealed in the ballot bags and returned as per the statutory retention requirements and returned to the towns. Before we begin, I wanna quickly introduce our Vermont Secretary of State election staff and our independent auditing team. So we have Chris Winters, my deputy secretary of state. Will's sending the Vermont's director of elections standing up there. Our fearless team of election administrators, Lori Bjornlin, who organized much of these proceedings for today, JP Isabel and Lelani Oatway right over here. I have to say, I wanna give a little bit of a shout out to my elections team. We have the smallest election team in the country with five people. They are truly our election rock stars. We also count as part of our, fortunate of our team is our town clerks and city clerks from around the state of Vermont. We could not do an election process without those town clerks and city clerks. They are really the backbone of our election system. And lastly, my chief of staff, Eric Covey. Everybody worked around the clock during the 2020 election cycle so that Vermont voters could vote safely and securely. And that starts with the town clerks, they're boards of civil authority, right on up through to our team here. From Clear Ballot, we have Keir Holman, who's vice president of technical services, James Rundlett, national sales manager, Jay Ballenbacker, audit program manager, Ira Margulis, where's the regional account manager and Dylan Sleith, the field support technician. He's hiding behind his laptop over there. I also wanna extend a huge thank you again to Orca Media for being here today and for helping assist our mission to deliver government transparency to the people of Vermont. It is only through this open and transparent process that we can continue to build the public's faith in the integrity of our election system and its institutions. The 2020 election was the most divisive election I have ever experienced in my lifetime. And before you give me a hard time about my age, I'm not that old, but I am old enough to have experienced a fair number of elections. This was also the most secure, most heavily scrutinized election in recent US history, if not ever, and that goes across this country. Election officials worked tirelessly under a microscope in the midst of a pandemic to do what is a very difficult job in a normal year. We consider it a great year if there's no news, so other than the results. However, some individuals with personal or political agendas continue to use misinformation, disinformation, and unfounded conspiracy theories to erode public confidence in the 2020 elections. The right to vote is the very foundation of our democracy. When it comes to elections, the truth matters. All we can do as election officials is respond with facts and evidence. Post-election audits are one important way, one important tool that states can respond to for these unfounded allegations by openly, transparently, independently, and securely affirming the accuracy and integrity of our election results. So it's time to get started. Here, did you want to add a few things? I will, very briefly. As Secretary Tondas mentioned, my name is Keir Holman. I'm the Vice President of Technical Services with the Clear Ballot Group. First and foremost, I want to thank Secretary Kondos and his staff for what we see as a real partnership. Our company got started by being able to audit other systems' election ballots, and it's really an important tradition that we carry on. We've gotten into a lot of other aspects of elections around the country, but we still consider audit where we started and an important part of what we do. So thank you, Secretary Kondos and your staff. You're great to work with and we certainly see you as a partner. On a personal note, this, I believe, is our third audit here in the state of Vermont, and I have yet to witness one, so I was excited to get here and personally very grateful to be able to be here. From a technology standpoint, as Secretary Kondos mentioned, in the world of audits, it's important to be independent. We don't, election systems don't audit themselves, and that's really where we started our business. As Secretary Kondos mentioned, we don't typically find major counting issues, but what we do find gives our clients some insights into their own process, maybe helps them think of things they might want to do in the future, and really gives the public a level of confidence in their election that they voted in and that they entrusted their public officials with. And again, we are grateful to be a part of that. From a technology standpoint today, we will be scanning all of the ballots from the municipalities that the Secretary mentioned. We'll do those one municipality at a time. Our scanners will scan several thousand ballots an hour between them, so with that kind of throughput, we should be able to finish today without an issue. We'll be displaying results up on the screen that I believe are gonna be live streamed as well, and we will be available for any questions that anybody might have about our system. We certainly look forward to answering those, and again, very grateful to be here, and I speak for the entire clear ballot team that is here. It was interesting to know Secretary Kondos has the smallest election staff in the country. That is great, because I don't care how big a state is, administering elections is a big job, an important job, and I know they do a great job here, and we're happy to be a part of it. So thank you again for allowing us to be here, and we'll get started. Go to it. Good morning, everybody. Can folks hear me even if I leave my mask on for now? I think I'm gonna, and let me know. My name's Will Senning. I'm the Director of Elections for the State of Vermont. While I'm talking here, my team is gonna start moving forward with the audit. The first town that we are going to audit is the town of Worcester. That's Worcester, for those of you out of state looking at the spelling on the screen. Actually, the folks from Mass should know that plenty well themselves. Let me see, there are 803 registered voters on the checklist for Worcester, and there were 632 ballots counted at the general election. What you're gonna see, for those of you watching on the live stream, the three elections division staff are gonna open the ballot bag for the town of Worcester and remove the voted ballots. There are some other materials that are required to be sealed in the bag, so you may see the team removing and setting aside those other materials. There should be a ballot of defective ballots, an envelope of defective ballots, and an envelope of replaced ballots if there were any of those in the town of Worcester. Copies of the entrance checklist. By rule, under the audit rules for the state of Vermont, only staff from the elections division or their designees can handle the ballots. So primarily it will be my staff handling the ballots. If we do need to designate anyone, we may designate a clear ballot team member or two. You're gonna see the team put the ballots in manageable stacks for the scanners, and as soon as they're ready, the scanners will start scanning them. You'll see at a pretty high rate. And as Cure mentioned, we're gonna display the results on the screen above, and you'll be able to see those results being tallyed over time. All the ballots in Vermont are printed on the same tabulator readable card stock, regardless of whether those towns hand count their ballots or not. Worcester does use a tabulator. Absolutely. Yeah, we're scanning them. Every two years. Yeah, oh, you mean you don't remember? I don't, but last night I did activate the one election. So, yep. Just at the very top of the colored bar, it says reports for Worcester. Well, a lot of polls, centralize the census, as a poll. So, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah. So what is typically what I'm doing is a lot of polls. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. Sounds like that was a simple connection issue between the scanners and the database. The old spinning wheel of death, as Lori likes to call it. But they reset the process and started the ballots again and we're now rolling through the Worcester ballots with the scanner. And a couple things now to note. The elections division team keeps the ballots in the same order that they're fed through the scanners as they're coming off the scanners. Which would enable us, if we needed to, to go back and look at a certain ballot. We'll be able to see the images of the ballots when the process is complete. But that would also let us go back and isolate that actual individual paper ballot and compare it to the image we're seeing. They do do the ballots in batches so that if there were any jam or need to go back, we don't have to go back and do the entire town. But you can go back and just start at the most recent batch that you've done. Are you doing 50 or 100 in a batch? Just a good chunk. That was a process that we instituted after the first year so that you didn't have to go back and do the entire town again. You could go back to one of the break points. A vote visualization real quick? Sure, just to see what we have. You want me to kind of explain this a little? So this is actually what we call our vote visualization. So some of the ballots that we scanned, this top portion up here is actually, we have the 100 ovals of least confidence, meaning they're not filled in as much as the other ovals. So starting at the very bottom right, that is the least confident vote. But it's still registered as a vote because it meets the threshold of the system. And if we scroll down a little bit more, Ira, and then we'll bring up any overvotes that we find that can be visually inspected. Maybe the voter did make a mistake. So we could adjudicate that if need be. And then any ballots that were non-votes and then maybe any marginal or question mark. So that's a little bit of what the vote visualization is. So you kind of get an idea of what your voters do. Yeah, sure. So can you back up real quick, Ira? A little fast for me. So if I hover over any one of these ovals, just any one, it actually gives you a clicked image of that contest. But if I were to go ahead and clicks on the oval, it's going to bring up the entire ballot so it can be inspected. And this is front and back. And then on the left-hand side, we show how the ballot was actually counted or what we counted for the ballot. Yeah, that is a very good ballot for a voter. And we see all different types there. And as Keir mentioned before about process for your voters, sometimes what the elections administrators will do is use this as a tool to better educate the voters. This is why it's important to fully fill in the oval. As they're scanning ballots, if our route was to refresh the screen, everything is being processed in real time. So as they're scanning ballots, we can actually go in and look at additional ovals and things like that, if need be. I think we're moving along now. Yeah, it's going to happen. Is it still the same that the views are off the shelf? Yeah, sir. Yep. Those are fugitsu scanners. And we bring 68s or 70s. These are 6,800 fugitsu scanners. So these are the same scanners that we used the last time. We have proprietary precinct scanners, but the central stays. So for this audit, the scanners that you see being used are actually off the shelf scanners. They're commercially available. It's just the software behind it that once it scans, the data is put into the system. So I just wanted to make sure everybody knew that as well. Yeah, I typically don't like to change it unless it becomes a problem, because I don't know if ballots exist, but it was coming up a lot, so we wouldn't need to test it. I'm not sure if they're going to say something to the records, but if they're going to do anything to make sure the test ballot is done. Are we done? Yeah. Yeah. Absolute value to them. You know, if they're okay with us getting the test ballots out either, I assume that they're probably going to secure all these ballots and just want to be aware of what we're doing when we go there. No one reads this. Love that. Do we have a way to great test those with like a ballot like this? We have a way. We have a way. We have a way. I've caught you out. I just said it. For us to do QA on it, we knew we were going to put it first. We're going to put it through. We're going to put it through. You don't have to give me to say that there is such a thing as not testing, because I don't know if there is a way. Yeah. Yeah. Even if we do, like the polling voting, we need to see that because of the main, never came up on the board because it was on there twice. So it's all that as a group. Right. I don't know why. I was going to say, how come the answer to the question? Well, I mean, I guess we're scanning a lot. Yeah. No idea why this guy, I'll take ownership and I have to look like because I looked at those three times. But we do have, but now again, this is like 7,000, so we have an election with 1200 MPH, and we have to find a way to easily create a digital test. Maybe we can do that. What about for, it looks like it's nice to have them in their mouth. They can still do it. Say they will. OK. I'm just going to have to be a man before you know. I'm going to use the PBAs here. Yeah. Yeah. It gets a good idea. Yeah. It's the only way to do it. They can't do it. I didn't mean to test that. Yeah. OK. So we didn't do any agreement for us. We have to go into PBAs. That's what we do. We have to make sure that that's accurate. Yeah. So 632 is what I know. That's correct. All right. Good stuff. So we want to... Here, do you guys want to put this up? Yeah, I'm going to let Ira run. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Ira, do you want your printer over there? Is that even? Yes. Yeah. Which Brandon said that she would be one off. She didn't say whether... I forgot to ask her whether under or over. She just knew that somehow. Yes. Did she say why? No, but it should be on her or me. OK. So whenever you're ready for Burlington, we have to... Well, we'll do it. We can look at... Do you want to look at this? First, I will look at these. Yeah, let's look at that. OK. And then... We have that new PDF loaded. Oh, you are. So it is good to go... Let's do a remix so that Don can leave. What do you next, Don? We're just going to look through these results. You guys could start getting all that ready. I'm not going to open it. Go to Max until he's... Yeah. Such a pain. Yeah. It's like you've got time to set up all the equipment. You see the tools over there. Then you start. Can you open that up again over there? You want statement of votes? Oh, yeah. No, I like what you wear better. I just want to see what you scroll just quickly. Yeah.  Oh, got it. Yeah, I just want to print it here. Yeah. And if you want them good to make... You want to order by... Well, that's the way they have them ordered here by the ballot. Thank you. I'm stepping away. He's got this. I think you made this to line up with... Yeah. Yeah, with yours. Of course, you're right in this. We're just going to show what you make. I'll mention that to you. Yeah. It's in there. Derek? Yeah. Did we send... All of the legislature was included on the press release? Where can we find the live stream? So I just tweeted it out. I don't know if you know about Twitter or you can find it on Orca Media's YouTube. It should be the pinned tweet at the top of our page. Yeah. So we're going to check out the results here that we just got for the town of Worcester. As an initial matter, we counted 632 ballots, which was the same number of ballots counted on the Worcester official return of votes. I have the official return of votes for the town of Worcester here. We have hard copies available for anybody who's here listening. And there are also public documents that are available online. And we'll make all these results available online. We'll make a nice spreadsheet that compares election night to the audit. For now, I'm resigned to reading through the totals from the official return of vote here that I have in front of me. And like I said again, we had 632 ballots counted on election night. We had 632 ballots counted today, which is great, and is a testament to the election workers in Worcester for nicely cleanly packing In the race for president and vice president, can you go back to the PDF? These are the audit results you're seeing on the screen right now. And I'm going to read the results from the official return of vote, and we'll compare the two. For the purpose of this presidential race, I am just going to read the names of the people who got votes. Because there are so many there with zeroes. Actually, I'm going to stick with the top two. I'll go through all of them. That's all right. Joe Biden. I don't have the vice presidential candidates on the official return of vote, so I'm just going to read the presidential candidates. For Joe Biden, we had 464. Howie Hawkins had five. Joe Jorgensen had five. Allison Kennedy had one. Christopher Lafontaine had three. Gloria Lariva one. Keith McCormick one. H. Brooke Page six. Donald J. Trump 125. Kanye West three. Ten right in votes. No over votes. Eight blank votes for a total of 632. I believe that was a total match, wasn't it? I only have one set of eyes. In the Rept of Congress race, Peter Becker had seven votes. Miriam Berry 117. Christopher Halale 11. Marcia Horn 10. Sean Orr 2. Jerry Trudell 6. Peter Welch 457. Total right in votes of three and 19 blanks. Is that a match also, I think? In Governor's race again, just the candidates with votes. Charlie Dickerson 2. I'll read them all. Wayne Billidoo 0. Michael DeVos 0. Charlie Dickerson 2. Kevin Hoyt 6. Emily Payton 2. Phil Scott 362. Aaron Haslett Whitney 1. David Zuckerman 239. Nine right in. Zero over and 11 blank. Excellent. You'd think these tabulators were made to count votes. Wayne Billidoo 5. Ralph Corbaugh, this is Lieutenant Governor. 3. Chris Erickson 19. Molly Gray 385. Scott Millen 196. Nine right in votes. No over votes. 15 blanks. So we have 385 on the ORB. You guys had 386. We have 196 for Scott here and 195. I'll keep going for now. We'll come back and take a look at that. Was that Lieutenant Governor? State Treasurer. Carolyn Whitney Brannigan 119. Chris Erickson had 30. Beth Pierce had 429. Alex Wright had 22. Two right in. No over votes. 30 blank. Extra right in on the somebody note that one too. Again, I'll say at this point having had two in a row here, has to see shifts of one or two votes between candidates or between the blank column and candidates. And we'll see. We usually can figure out what's going on. Let me go back and take a look. Secretary of State Jim Condos 429. Chris Erickson 24. H. Brick Page 123. Pamela Smith 27. Zero right in. Zero over 29 blank. Four auditor Chris Erickson at 85. Doug Hoffer had 468. There was one right in. And this is what I noticed before I made the announcement and was talking about over here before reading these votes. It appears that the clerk in Worcester mistakenly recorded her blank votes in the over vote column. She had 78 over votes indicated in no blank votes for a total of 632. For Attorney General T.J. Donovan at 457. Chris Erickson 36. H. Brick Page 99. No right in. One over vote. 39 blank votes. Very common. Thanks Lori. State Senator. Ken Alger 140 and Cummings 397. Andrew Pertlick 358. Anthony Polina 396. Don Marie Tomasi 149. Dwayne Tucker 136. Paul Valoran 37. Three right in. No over votes 280 blank votes. And for State Rep. Shanara Johnson 132. Tyler Machia 125. Avram Pat 437. David Yacovone 439. Total right in 3. 127 blank votes. And last but not least Ty Bailiff we have Mark Poolin with 190. Asa Skinder with 360. No right in. No over votes 82 blank votes. We're not going to do JPs today. We don't have the official returns of vote for the JPs. So the ones we were taking a look at can somebody help remind me. It also had a shift for him. Can we open that ballot up? Open that ballot up too. So you can see on this ballot. That's how the person voted was by axis. Which is the Optis scan that we use doesn't necessarily pick that up. And that would have had to have been looked at physically by a board of civil authority member. Which is done. They review the ballots after they're run through the tabulator for markings like these that might show voter intent but might not necessarily been picked up by the tabulator. It's hard to tell what they decided on that night. They may have decided that those votes were being read. When they weren't. This got known as well. This was the other way. We had 196. Over there. It was Warren Wallace. You guys, I'm wondering if Molly's, the vote we looked at on Molly's, on the Molly grade vote actually got picked up. And what we might be seeing here is a transposition on the ORV. Giving one to the other and one to the other. A Molly gray vote just mistakenly put in the Scott known column. 15 under. Yeah. That mask. We're pretty happy with one vote. I'm going to go around here. Quick, so we can move on. Let's look at that. Yep. What was going on there? 359. 360. Is that that same ballot probably? With the X marks. It's interesting. As these guys said again from a voter education perspective, it's the same ballot in both races. It's kind of an outlier among the Worcester ballots. And it's why it's so important to fill in the ovals completely. I say we go. Again, I'll reiterate that we'll be posting the full results with any deltas between election night and the audit on our website as soon as possible. This James to people use this. Yeah. We have a great election right here. Yeah. Unless it's close race. If you have any more fun moments, yes. I think it's deltas. My wife is still on the line.  Yeah. But that's what's funny. Yeah. If you go back to the page, I'll automatically change it to the active skin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we have to get it. Yes, Jim.  The first bag that the team opened from South Burlington turned out to contain the defective ballots from South Burlington. So they're not included in the count on election night and so they're not scanned as part of the audit, of course. And so they had to replace the seal in that defective ballot bag and they got the noted ballots. So they got the noted ballots. Yeah. So two election officials then transferred onto a machine-readable bag. So we have those here as well. Yeah. They're attached to here. Oh, so we have to go through. Yeah. Well, you want it from here? But, no. But, not one. Yeah. Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah. Can we have a statement here? I did bring one. I'm sure I said I would check this. We want to. Well, that's, yeah. Yeah. We can do those last, we can do those last. So, in South Burlington, they have a significant number of overseas and military voters. Those voters return their ballots typically on non-card stock paper. Their ballots that they've printed out in the location where they are. And then hand mark them and mail them back. Those ballots are transferred, the votes on those ballots are transferred onto a tabulator readable ballot. No, you can commence on election day by two election officials in South Burlington. So that the ballots instead of hand counting the flimsy regular paper ballots that come back that allows the clerk in South Burlington to run those ballots through the tabulator. She just explained to me she does that last which makes sense so they clear out the ballot bin from underneath the tabulator and run through just the ballots that have been transferred on the tabulator readable ballots. That allows her to then take those out of the box underneath the tabulator and attach them back to the ballot that was sent back from the voter to show that they were accurately transferred by the election officials. And so she stores them separately in the replaced ballot envelope with the original ballot attached to the tabulator readable ballot that the election officials filled out. And so in order to audit those same ballots that were read by the tabulator, we are detaching the tabulator readable ballot from the original that was returned from the voter so that we can send them through this great scanner. No rush. They got something to do. Put my fingernails. See that? Do you guys have a jam? Yeah, these are towed down. One pilot is the acting pilot so the other pilot has to replace that. But then he's going to be able to put them back together. But we have the same. We'll have to think about it. It's the same thing. I just took a chunk of theirs. Oh, it's the one you have on screen? Yeah. Yeah, you've got to do that. You'll watch and move to see how this one went in. These. South Burlington. I just don't want to say it too many times. No. Did he? Uh huh. He's fast. 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Some of the students, some of them sit in the warehouse. Wow. Yeah.  And it's George's turn. Oh, no. You can sometimes tell it as a rule, and then I don't know who can. I don't know. It's pretty, pretty good. Yeah. It's a good game. It's a good game. I'm going to try to rate that for the world. I'm going to rate it. Two more. I'm going to shake the hand of two hundred and fifty. But the original, I didn't realize that there was twice, but it seems listed that in there twice. But the sister size is different. It's good for those who want to go into their big reasons. But B, this is the second game. So here's another. Oh, it's just a piece of it. I mean, it's just a bit more live. Yeah, and she confirmed that, we found it here and it threw us for a loop, so. Donna did. Yeah, that's right. But it's not, but you only have your results for that, so it's really. No. Okay. Just wanted to let you know. Thank you.  But I know I've stalked her. And I think we've said that. That doesn't make any sense. You're only one person. Yeah. You're speaking on behalf of people like you. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah, I know that we've definitely done that. We do. Yeah, we're good. I appreciate it, Ira.  It's. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You. I have a ____ so long. It's always. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm 11. It's nice. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Thank you very much. You look more impressive than last week. Hello. Okay. You know what I was just seeing because the screen was bigger. I didn't do it. You know what I was just seeing because the screen was bigger. Why about that there for you? This is the biggest one? Yeah. You're okay. And it's not about the, it's not about the unreadables. Do that, isn't that faster than counting them? We might have to, you know, say that is what it is. You guys have five more right? Oh five left. So that's good. We gained back one. We had to redo the first batch of ballots that we did for South Burlington that were scanned before the tolerance on the scanner had been changed. And so it allowed for a few to be double fed that to go through without being read. So we picked up some more there that have gotten us closer to the number we were looking for. And then we are going to redo the last batch that we did because it looked like they had picked up an additional count. It was 53. So after we scan this small batch of 52, we should be ready to go. So it didn't change. So it's probably just human error. Yes. Yep. Their count is not over. Put the results into the totals as we go. So Jim, you can help us here. There were four ballots in this batch of South Burlington ballots that were unreadable by the clear ballot system. And I'm now remembering we have done this a few times before with the system. I couldn't remember. But so we're going to go through now collectively as a group and adjudicate these ballot status to the totals. No. No. The count is okay. These weren't readable. So they weren't tabulated by the clear ballot system. For some reason, and James was giving me a few examples of why that happens sometimes. Ballot status. Yeah. Joe Biden. Peter Welch. Phil Scott. Molly Gray. Anybody stop us if they disagree? Blank. Keisha Rom. Nope. Keisha. And don't worry about the JPs. The ballot may have been short so that it wasn't picking up these timing marks here. Space between the timing marks and the edge of the paper. So we've got Joe Biden. Peter Welch. Phil Scott. Molly Gray. Beth Pierce. Jim Condos. Who's that guy? David Hoffer. T.J. Donovan. Now Baruth. Chittenden. Ellers. Long. Rom. So this is the wrong ballot. Which also explains why we have one more ballot. No. Because the tabulator read that ballot for all the other races. But her count was the same on the tape. Then we showed it. We're doing running these through the scanner. So we've probably got an extra ballot in one of the transfers. Yeah. Yeah. That's why we have one more. So we can tell this to see if it's a non-ballot instead that the results will come out. Right. We'll be back to hopefully. No, she transferred it. You can see what happened with this one. The corner was folded over. Folded corner meant that couldn't read the tab. Biden. Welch. Scott. Pierce. Mata. Blank. Yeah. 28-22. Yeah. Should we. Hi, I could start going through these. Yeah. We'll probably need to check this out. Because there's some variations here. Anything you want to look at. Jim, I'm going to go through these. South Burlington. There's some stuff to look at. So we're going to take a look at the results from South Burlington while the elections team is packing up those bags. Now I'm going to start with the race for president. You can see the results from the audit up on the screen. And I'll read the results from the official return of vote on election night. Biden had 2093. Carol had three. Brian Carroll. Richard Duncan had two. Hallie Hawkins nine. Joe Jorgensen 23. Allison Kennedy one. Kyle Kapipke one. Christopher Lafontaine seven. H. Brick page two. Brock Pierce two. Jerome Siegel one. Gary Swing two. Donald J. Trump six 17. Kanye West 14. And total right ends of 11. One over vote and 33 blank. Trump the right end and the blank, which I think should begin to make sense if we start looking at them. You had four more for Trump. Likely those bottom four were not read by the tabulator. That doesn't matter. The interesting thing about our system is the way our system works. It takes into account the way the whole bar of ballot is marked. So that's why we can end up picking up some ballots that may be more picked up by another system. Because our system is smart enough to say, OK, they seem to have marked the whole ballot the same way. This is how they mark it. So take a quick look for me. What was the blank number? And we have 33. So there's four of those. Four of those right there. Can you take a quick look at the right ends? South Brownington only had 11, which is likely because of some that are written in that weren't picked up. Their total writing count was 11. And moved to blank. Can you look at all the right ends? Is that all of them? No, it shouldn't. Fictitious. Let's keep moving. Let's see if we can get a pattern. Rep to Congress. Peter Becker, 38. Miriam Barry, 554. Christopher Halali, 27. Marsha Horne, 23. Sean Orr, 7. Jerry Tradell, 32. Peter Welch, 2018. Total right ends of three. One over vote, 119 blank. We had 2018. You had 2019. The check mark ballot. The votes, Iris, we're at the secretary's point. No, but Barry had one additional. In Barry, though. Not Miriam Barry, not Halali. 54. Check the right ends. Yes. Right. Just take a peek at the right ends in that one for me. So that's why these guys had two more right ends. Yep, and both of those were moved into blank for our ORB. So we can keep going. Governor. Billidoo, 12. DeVost, 8. Dickerson, 3. Hoyt, 14. Payton, 17. Phil Scott, 1803. Whitney, 9. Zuckerman, 871. 7 right ends. 0 over 78 blank. No, that's a human. That's at least two of them there. Lieutenant Governor. Billidoo, 30. Corbo, 34. Erickson, 75. Gray, 15, 61. Milne, 991. 6th right ends. 0 over 125 blank. It should go to Molly. That might not be one. If you look at her race, it's the same two ballots again. Probably went to blank. Yep. Oh, hers was higher. Yep. You want to look at that whole ballot? Marking right the whole way. And it looks like your counters actually got it for Molly. I was talking to Donna. Her counters. Right. Treasurer. Brannigan, 661. Erickson, 97. Pierce, 16, 46. Wright, 180. Total right ends of one. No over votes. 237 blank. You want to look at the right ends too. You kind of four. She hit one. Two blanks. Secretary of State. Condos, 1873. Erickson, 77. Page, 529. Smith, 143. No right ends. No over votes. 200 blank. You had two more each Brooks than us. What about the right ends? Down to one again. Auditor of accounts. Chris Erickson, 329. Doug Hoffer, 2033. 7 right in. 0 over vote. 453 blanks. Try the right ends. Just curious. Blank. No vote. That's three. Get this down to three. Attorney General. ORV. TJ Donovan, 2069. Erickson, 91. Page, 481. 11 right ends. 0 over 170 blanks. Two fewer for TJ. 11. No vote. And last. No will be revoked. State Senate. Baruth, 1276. Bowen, 705. Chaston, 670. Chittenden, 1731. Ellers, 418. Hollingsworth, 501. Long, 559. Lyons, 1453. Pearson, 901. From 1338. Redick, 598. Rowland, 538. Sorotkin, 1482. 7 right in. 4 over vote. 4,751 blank. You're generally two fewer. So it's those two ballots again. All within one or two. Can you look at the blanks? And those counts are really close. State Rep. Townsend, 2292. 27 right ends. 503 blanks. And she's got five more blanks. Exactly. It's again difficult with the six. Oh, that's not the six. That's for State Rep. Gamlin, 2115. 12 right in. No over vote, 695 blank. So it would look like a couple lightly marked or uniquely marked ballots. Throwing those off by a little bit. And then instances where there was either no name or a fictitious name put in the right in spaces. Or accounting for most of those differences. Overall good job. Thank you. You guys already packaged that up, right? So other than lunch, we can move on to the next town. I'd like to keep going. I think we have enough people. JP, are you okay doing it with me for right now? And then when Lori's back. Hey, Lori, are they letting people come in here with food? We did previously. We had lunch. Yeah, we did. Yeah. Hey, Lori, if we order pizzas, is that okay with you? I would get something lighter. Just know that. I think we should just let people do their own thing then. You guys are doing Brandon, right? Just a couple. She's too young for this. We'll take turns. Say insects are the food of the future. Oh, I thought we were just doing Brandon next. I heard something about they have two different municipalities. Oh, yeah. They originally called her Brandon, but we're set up for it. Okay. Thank you. That's for someone that was born in Topson. That's easier to say than Topshand anyway. What do they in Massachusetts they call it Topshand? Topshand? Topshand. I've heard it multiple times. I'll trust the secretariat's date. You need a lunch break? I was going to let Dylan go first. We'll take turns. You guys can alternate too. So, Lori, when you get back, rule. He's just going to make sure the first batch scans. Did you get anything? Did you get anything? Right across the street. Elevator? I'm going to stick. I might run across the street. I did. You might have to go to security. That's a good question. All right. That's the right number of batch. That's a ball game. Number of balance matches at least. 656. Way to go Topson. through top some top some right okay well you're completed scanning the ballots from top some and ballot count matched 656 ballots counted on election night and 656 audited today and so I'll start with the race for president Biden had 273 I'm reading from the official return of vote filed by the clerks Biden had 273 Carol to Hawkins to Jorgensen for Lafontaine to Lariva one McCormick one page to Trump 356 West one two right ends no over 10 blank pretty pretty close on all of us you counted one less Biden with 273 most likely a light mark so if there's not any of the kind of typically obvious reasons transfers I want to note and remind everybody that tops them is a hand count town so we're not dealing with tabulators here and one or two go differences could be the result of human error in adding up the totals from the summary sheets tally sheets to the summary sheets may not have been counted but again it's not a machine so you're talking about human analysis and those might not have been counted or actually so we were three above on Trump yours wouldn't have counted those you're right and those hand counters probably would have yep let's go we're up to Congress Becker 10 Barry 280 Halali 8 horn 14 or 1 Tradell 3 Welch 3 17 no right ends 23 blank so governor we got Bill ado 2 DeVost 4 Dickerson 7 point 17 Peyton 3 Scott 494 Whitney 3 Zuckerman 105 3 right ends 18 banks spot on for the counters and tops Lieutenant Governor Bill ado 7 Corba 1 Erickson 7 Gray 238 mill and 382 3 right in 18 blank same one again I'm not going to over analyze these with the hand count was I secretary state treasurer ran again 306 Erickson 20 Pierce 268 right 15 no right ends 47 blank yeah cuz you had what look at the blanks 18 18 to 15 yep yep yep secretary of state condos 271 Erickson 13 page 300 Smith 32 no right in 40 blank to look at auditor Erickson 86 offer 467 for right ends no over about 99 blanks one more for Hoffer attorney general Donovan 320 Erickson 27 page 272 no right ends no over votes 37 blank state senator Benning 297 choke 178 JT Dodge 88 Kitchell 242 Wilson 216 one right in no over it's 290 banks kind of two more look at Benning you kind of won less for Benning with 297 one of those there is yep they may have counted that can you look at that ballot they've made it to state rep Parsons 393 root Winchester 231 32 blanks no but that was that big that's that ballot where they were crossing out whole boxes and that's a you know that's a two free two different on each candidate the different directions could be recording and finally high bail of 544 for con toys 8 right in 104 blank yep that's where you get that one over for the record good job top some hand counters in general pretty right on top some pretty big one each of the ender cards for each town the ender card is what tells the machine that you're done running the ballots through and they can tabulate the totals can only be used once and so we destroy those as we go along that's what you saw one of the election staff crumbling up or ripping it so that we don't mistakenly use that same ender card twice just like we found in South Burlington there's a number of ballots in the bag for Brandon that were printed and sent back probably from voters overseas and or voters with disabilities voting from home using the ballot marking system and so they are each clearly marked by the clerk and another election official as having been transferred to a tabulated readable ballot so we'll pull these out any with the note on them that say that they've been transferred because we wouldn't want to count those votes twice I was gonna go grab it if that's okay with you guys I want to say yes I'm pretty sure yeah I was at the corner that was there's a lot of time I can't wait for it to be something like that would you move it with everything you own through this card Eric what's that about I'm not attacking the first one we're attacking it you guys just had to remove it like I said right now drink some water put some food in it I feel a hundred percent better thanks for watching I got the car I drove over and I'm like but now I feel a lot better how are we doing with like is this another big one this is the next biggest one I think so we're three over right now we haven't thought about it yet why that is just finished so I mean this always goes back to the I wish I knew how many was in the bag before it scanned it I'll go yeah you probably need to do it as a group I want to can we look at the ballots that have unreadable because it's a transfer ballot it's two election officials alright she put it on she put it on this yeah so maybe or she didn't so then she so then she had it mixed in with them then so possibly it could be that that's what I saw one of them and so that's very clear I know that I know that I know that I know that I know that I know that sorry they have not but but they are included in that So we want to reduce that number, because this has been transferred. Oh, yeah, we could make this a non-ballot. Make it a non-ballot. OK, so, Dylan, you can make this a non-ballot. Non-ballot. Do you want to? Yeah. Oh, yeah, don't even do that. Just go to non-ballot on your radio button. There you go. There's a clear note on this ballot that the votes have been transferred to a separate ballot that was also counted. So that's accounting for one of the additional ballots we counted today. So we're not going to include the votes on this ballot in the count. Had that not one had an issue, it would have counted. So you're probably right in your assumption. But we want to have that. Yeah, absolutely right. We're actually flipping through all the 2,200 images. Do it now, but it's going to take a while. Yes. So it'll pass over to the additional 100 ballots, but it's going to take a while. If you're comfortable with the changes are about to off. It appears very clear that these are transferred ballots that were not kept together. Separated out from the rest. We were trying, Lori. We were kind of going like this, but it's hard to find them all. So I have Dylan coming from the last ballot working his way, and then I was coming from the first ballot working his way. So they're both looking for the back. If we want to. It is possible that we might miss it, though. Do it like this. Yes. Right. Because I am looking at this. My eyes are trained right now. I think most of them are. If it's on the backside, it'll show up. I'll look up your shoulder. So we've got a lot of eyes on that. I'm OK with reading the results, too. We can continue looking through this one. The QDK bill. Sounds good. So we're at like 320 right now. So we'll keep on going with this. You guys want to look at the results? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, we just need the high bail off them. It will actually do have to work for you. If you can read the front of the bell. Just skip. Yeah. Are you guys at 2211? You're at 2211. Yeah. OK. I'll just tell them what boxes. Sure. Just follow with me along that. Not sure what she was talking about. She might have. Did you find one? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think it does. Yeah. It might. Mm-hmm. Because they're, what's their number again? 2211. Right. Yeah.  There's a pretty good explanation somewhere. Yeah. Jim, are you OK with me going through them? Yes. Before they find it. Yeah. So I'm going to go through these already. The audit team, we ended up counting two additional ballots. Over the number that was reported on the official return of vote, we are pretty confident in assuming that those are ballots that were, the votes were transferred onto a tabulator readable ballot. But we're still included in this count because this bag had five or six, or how many did we pull out? I think eight, eight, nine on our own that we found. Five. I think eight. It was five plus the three that JP found. And so it's likely that there were additional ones that we might not have caught that got counted during the audit. These guys are looking through the images to see if we can find any of the images with that similar note on it that the ballot had been transferred. Also the clerk noted to Lori when she was dropping the ballots off that she would be quote, off by one. We're not sure what that referred to exactly, but that could explain that she may have found an additional ballot after the count that was in the bag. She said she was off by one result. She said us. So we think that might be an additional ballot that was found later too and included in the bag. So with that said, expecting there to be two additional votes on the audit side, I'll go through the totals starting with president. Biden had 1213. Blankenship had three. Carol had two. Collins had one. Duncan had two. Hawkins had three. Jorgensen had 19. Kennedy four. Lafontaine nine. McCormick three. Page nine. Siegel one. Gary swing two. Trump eight ninety six. In West 11. Six write-ins. One over vote 24 blank. I know that's the thing. It's it's hard to dig in because we know we're off by two ballots anyway. And those are both both within that two ballot margin. The change that I can see there. So I think I'll just read through these while you guys are looking. And as long as we don't see any that are wider than two. We will assume that that's the issue. For rep to Congress Becker. 139. Barry 688. Halale nine. Horn 15. Or eight. Tradell 14. Welch 1251. Write-ins of two. Six over votes. 77 blank. Those are all right within that one or two ballot margin. Governor we had. Billidoo with five. DeVos before Dickerson seven. Hoyt 46. Payton 22. Scott 1544. Whitney 12. Zuckerman 507. 25 write-ins two over votes. 35 blanks. Lieutenant governor. Billidoo at 27. Corbo seven. Erickson 32. Gray 921. Milne 1144. Writing seven. Over votes nine. Bike votes 62. 921. 921. 1144 sure. With that marking. So can you on. You roll that back. They did find another ballot with the marking. That it had been transferred. That was one of the ones she penned in. So it didn't even have the little sticker. Those are even harder for us to catch. Because they're just penned on the back. Worth it. It may be the one that she was talking about. That she had an additional but. If you don't mind. Nah. Nah. Let's do that. For state treasurer. Brandigan 847. Erickson 87. Pierce 1026. Write 107. 2 write-ins. 140 blank. Secretary of State. Condos 1095. Erickson 58. Page 784. Smith 127. 1 write-in. 2 over votes. 142 blank. For auditor. Erickson 305. Offer 1573. 13 write-ins. 1 over vote. 317 blank. For attorney general. Donovan at 1245. Erickson 84. Page 745. Write-ins of 3. 1 over vote. 131 blank votes. For state senator. Kovakis. 223. Collamore. 883. 51. Cox 611. Hooker 947. Jennings 82. Lynchus 34. Shank 632. Taranzini 788. Williams 664. 8 write-in. 9 over vote. 1295 blank. And state rep. Jerome 1228. Shaw 1386. Salia 843. 12 write-ins. 0 over vote. 949 blank. And last but not least. Hyde Bailiff. Bixby 1377. Humphreys 385. 28 write-ins. 0 over vote. 419 blank. So the. Results that you just saw on the screen from the audit. Are all going to change by. At least one. Vote in each race. Because one ballot will be backed out that we found was marked. Having been transferred. And they're looking for a second. As we speak. If they don't find another. It'd be 1210. Versus her 1209. One off. Which may be the one that Sue was. Telling us about. You guys let it run. But I think we can pack these up. And we could even set up for the next. While we're doing this. You want to make the next election. I don't know which one we're going to. He's not going to make that call. We'll be like knock out all the small ones. Get the. I think. She was. We did the one with. That. Go back about. I thought. I think. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. John. Well, either Randolph or Poundall, Randolph is 2190, I'm sorry, total ballot is counted, 2,600. And Poundall is 1,800. Yeah, that's good enough. And then Warren is 12 or 1,300. What's that? I don't see. I don't see what's going on. I just want to get it back today. All right. Yep, we found another one. Got it. Yep. It's a lot better than hand flicking through 2,000 ballots, right? So you can count that one, too. They just said that reviewing the images, they did find another of the ballots with a notation by the clerk and another election official that it had been transferred to a tabulated readable ballot. That means it should not have been included in the audit scanning. And brings the numbers in line. And so when you see the official audit results posted on the website, the ballot counts will match and the numbers that I read or that you saw on the screen as a result of the audit will both be slightly different by two ballots. So I'll save it in the back for you. Dude, they couldn't back it out, but I had a printed version. And I don't think it was reflected up there. Right away. And we had, we had... We had a great good job, baby. I think the first election that we had in three years. Oh, it was not even expected. Up in your city hall. Yeah. The election audit. Oh, I know. Yeah. And we couldn't find one ballot in a month. And all of a sudden, too, I forget how we found it, but we found it. Wait a minute, there's an extra. And all of a sudden, the clerk started laughing. Yeah. She had slipped an extra ballot. Oh, oh, oh. So it was almost like a test for us. We were setting up for other jurisdictions. We did one on Colorado. But we were able to find the exact ballot. That's really good. I think that was a balance that I thought would work more, but it was supposed to be a real good thing. So we did our testing without it. And I said, we didn't tell you that. We're actually impressed with it. Yeah. But then that's what a really good process is. So you bring all that to the eye and see if you can succeed. Oh, it's just like we're using it.  Pardon me? Yeah. If I kind of open the ballot up, you can see that the pet was obviously running out of makeup. Yeah. Or like you said, I don't know if you've had someone fill in your explicit point on target. Yeah. They only talk a little more. And we can do that sort of front after the tent. We can bring them right to the place. Yeah. Yeah, we've, of course, a lot of things.  We're doing a lot of self-traumatic analysis, like this year, we're going to do all of these college and the plans, pick up the business, get all of that out, and boys and girls in Florida, New York. So it's been really crucial, doesn't it? Are most states selecting them? So it depends. Some states do the entire.  Maryland does statewide, but it's a digital on it. So it's a tabulation system, so it's going to be 5%. So the visitors can't, you know, take those images and different kinds of pictures. And we've been out for Colorado, and we've been out to a lot of studies that have 4 of them. But then when I was, they actually resend them. So we'll put the place. That's crazy. But they're doing it. I was like, you're like, I'll take them. So every day after early voting, it's going to be about 5%. First of all, it's going to wait. Statewide. And count. And we'll have three count. We'll have two more. And count. And count. Statewide.  But you're going to be hard to take. I'm not getting involved. I'm going to get involved. I'll try to, you know, I'll keep trying. But they'll accept. It's really hard to get that one. You can't get the thing in. Well, I got about 10. But yeah, I don't know. You probably have five from our company. How are we doing on target cars down there? It's one in the garage so you can see a clock. It's like the only one in the house. Did you know how to read it? No, I always go, what time is it? It's four. Yeah, my sum would be like four one zero. I was like, no, it's four ten. You say four ten? Yeah. I'll take a peek at it. Oh, because we're not. Would you stop that? How many times are you going to do that today? Yeah, you're trying to get around the hardest part. I don't know. They probably went to work on their PowerPoint presentation. You know, we meant to work on this presentation, but we haven't yet, so I think we're going to radical together. Yeah, I went to that little gas station across the street. I swear it's going out of business. There's nothing there. I know. I walked in and I was like, ooh, I'm going to like just quick snack.  I wanted some Pringles to like make me feel a little bit better. It's like they had four cans. Four cans and they only had the thinner. I will say they put a nice thank you on the bag on big cars. Fussy bags? A little restaurant. No, it was a paper bag, I got a paper bag. I didn't even give me a bag at the restaurant. Would you get to eat? It's a skinny pancake. Pretty good. And I got a full croissant. I'll be ready for dinner. I am ready for dinner. I'm going to get out of here until 7 o'clock. Eating at the airport? What's up? Everybody at the airport? Are you here? Are you flying tonight? No, tomorrow. Oh. But we're driving back there. Yeah. We can just grab something along the way. That's what I thought. You're flying at the same time. I get the same flight as you. Oh, OK. I booked everything around what you told me the first time. OK, gotcha. I'm pretty sure we had the same flight. You had Delta. So you're flying in Detroit? Yeah. Yeah, of course. Like behind the door or something. Yeah. Yeah. I got a pretty good flight. And look where? But they're on one flight. Oh, you got two? Yeah. You were flight attendant? Yeah, I'm not sure. Right there on the flight. You're the latter? Not now. I changed the seat all the time. Yeah, I do too. I just take the next few minutes every time. If I can get it, I do. You can get it by doing it. Oh, not on the way home from Detroit. So I mean, I'd say, well, it's in Detroit. But it's sites. It's not worth it. I could buy my bike there. When James gets back, you know, he's the camper. What about the light? Is he a Tampa Bay light? It's on the edge. Or a Tampa Bay bucket here. No, a lot of shaking. What is it shaking? Yeah, if you zoom out. It's like, what state are you in? Marty St. Louis. He moved back down. What's that? He moved back down there. So you did? I was going to remind people. We got to see him and Eric Karen. We knew the magic for you. It started as a game of the month. That's the thing, because sometimes it's no TV. It's like, you want to talk to them. Where's that? 22.  Thank you all again once every other week. Yeah. He said. He said, as long as I get it out. Yeah. Yeah. They're not very good. They're not very good. You said it today. They're not very good. They're not very good. You said it today. They're not very good. I don't mind the fly. So, is Brandon really wanted to work? Yeah. I think it's unbelievable. It actually made a sense. I understand. It ended up only in my case. So the reason why? Yeah. I think it's so many dams. The reason why we stopped working is because two of the transfers that you've written on, and they have been transferred are free. We've got a mixed in. And so we were originally working for Mark. Then we found those. Oh, okay. You knew, yeah. Okay. We have a scan of every ballot. Oh, okay. Yeah. So they were able to set it up so that they could quickly just go through and look at it. Oh, cool. And you thought we were getting on it? Yeah. Yeah. We had major damning problems. I think the molded ballot. I think the... That was okay. Countless. Yeah. Maybe I ended up all right. I can't remember whether it was amped. And that's the other thing. I'm like, how is it? It's on medium, I thought, on low. How was it? It wasn't this one. Because we had dam problems then too. And we actually got... Yeah, we got some tools out of all of the ballots with the ballot button. It takes a lot of time. But my problem is some of these guys... Yeah. We had to do all of the... We did our absentee early.  And I said, I... Are you going to do it again? Sorry.  And he said that it's a...  So they start... Yeah. You know, they do their audits. They do the scan of the ballots. Yeah. And then they do their audit right after that. So you've been leading right up to the election. So when they get to the election, it's already auditing. Yeah. But that's... Well, I mean, for me, I just knew, you know, the first time we did the absentee ballot early, my count could be exact. It wasn't like, this is not possible. I can't do this. We're going to have to do it again. So I think... I think Tommy had to clear it out. I cleared it out. And we... And what happened was, it was jamming. And I said, you've got to stop this. You've got to read it. You can't... You know, you've got to read that. And that's... He was just letting them go. Or it's... It would say it was read and he'd feed it again. That's what usually happens. Say it's read. They won't pay attention to feed it again. And then you get one extra ballot. So that was... I know that was... So the really good news is, if the world does his job right, we will have... We will continue. You need a new target card. Good news, right? Did you hit no one? The next one... The good news is we're going to go out to the dollar. We're going to get a new tabulator. And the new tabulators... I don't think the old part will be as much of a problem. Oh, that'd be awesome. Yeah. Because they're just... They're better. Yeah. Like these scanners right here are off-the-shelf scanners that we use. These are not... Wow. They're proprietary scanners, except for... It's really fast. Yeah. They can do a thousand ballots and a thousand ballots in an hour. Yeah. Was there... People watching? 100s. Are there 100s? No. Well, I had at least two people come into the office after the election and wanted to examine my tabulator. Yeah, of course you did. And they said, what brand is that? I'm like, I haven't... They said, you don't know the brand of your own tabulator? I said, no I don't, but I don't. I'm going to learn that now. Well, thank you all. Yep. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all your hard work. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Here you go. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.    When you get sent, you have to do what that's about. Call an employee. Yeah, call an employee right that.    The election workers crumpled you up the bell, and the will would not do what we want. Now, I was saying, and then I walked out of the hall. Actually, that's that. That is true. It doesn't happen anymore.  Like, how are you going to audit it? You know, it's not going to be us. I'm just going to say thank you. But if you don't do it, you just have to pay for what? Then we have 1792 to 1800 and 1300. Okay. So it's not going to be bad. Did you guys have that last night? We did. Yeah, we stayed right over here down the street. Yeah. Nice little hotel. They're looking for customers, right? We ate at the restaurant. The food is really good. The food is good. Yeah. Actually, it's in the owner of the chef. The son of the owner of the hotel. It's a big hotel. They also own a movie theater. Oh. And I used to call on them. We're the girls at the movie theater. And to sell them candy, I had candy there. So I worked for a manager back there. Okay. One time he was calling me and said, well, I just bought three car washers. And I go, hey, excuse me. You got laundromats, car washers, and we did it. I said, everything you own is cash business and smiles. Oh, there is more. Oh, okay. I thought she was done with it. I just see her slowly putting it on. I know. I was like, um... We're not there yet. 26, 28. Well, no, I didn't feel like she had more. We probably were done. And I was like, there's so much to be said. Yeah, she was like... I'm not going to mention it. A lot of you are. Oh, are you guys ready to sweat for her? You're ready to tell Will that he's got a lot of explaining to do. Yeah. What's the number? 2636. 2628. Yes, 2628. Okay. According to the... It was checklist... The defective. Well, no, yeah. If you add defectives in, then it's 2636. Right. The actual ballots is... 2628. Yeah. What did we agree? What did we agree? What's the... 2628. 2628. We have 2636. No, 2636 is actually... Is that the number that she had originally? She had on her tape. That's the number of ballots, actually, that were counted on her tape. Right. And so... Eight of them were defective. But she had a separate thing for defectives. And so she... Somehow things are not accounted for accurately. Let's do the one at J.P. She didn't even... Hey, J.P., can you look at the... She wrote... She actually wrote an answer. What you have in the precedent. Yeah. When you go there... I said no. Look at the tape. What she hand wrote on. What they... Because the ORV is not the same as actually... It's not as bold as on the tape, off the tape, but then didn't... She hand tallied some and wrote it on the tape. But she may have put the ORV first from the tape. No, it's a hundred. Like, more than that off on... Yeah. 2637 is what... That's... No, that's... They don't count. Yeah. Correct. Because she didn't go by her tape. I don't know why. I know. But... Right. So this number... That's the total of the... Of the ballots that went through the tabulator. Yeah. These are from the hand tally that they then did. They got that number of ballots. Come through here. And that's why it sounds the same. These appear to... All that they would have added. They added it. Correct. So then... They're retolling. Retallying over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. But I don't think these would add up to this. Well, do you want me to read them off to you? Yeah, do a smaller race. Smaller race. Yeah, do a smaller race. Do you think you got it? No. Six ninety-four. Four. Thirty-two. Fifty-eight. Nine. Thirteen. Did you get this one? Sixteen eighty-seven. Five. Three. Sixty-nine. What about the race? So it was... Rep to Congress. Well... Fifty-eight back there. Six ninety-three. Okay. Rep to Congress. Well... Fifty-eight back there. Six ninety-four. Thirteen. Sixteen eighty-seven. Five right there. Three over sixty-nine. Mm-hmm. So somehow she... Which adds to twenty-six twenty-eight. Right. Did it. Mm-hmm. But there's a total of more ballots than what she... Banned. That's close to their number of ballots. Yes. She has that right. So I don't know where she is. Where she went off. In the right. Because she puts up there's eight defectives. On the front. That... No. I mean... No. The number checked up, the checklist. I'll be greater. One of those eight ballots? I don't know. I think they're in here. I'm gonna read the results. Okay. Okay. Because the candidate totals are close. The thirty-seven. Well we're off by about nine ballots as to what she recorded here. But the candidate totals are similar. And it'll just be a matter of following up with the clerk. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So we're looking at the town of Randolph. And as a number of ballots counted. The... Audit today. Counted two thousand six hundred thirty-seven. Whereas on the ORV. The total ballots counted was twenty-six twenty-eight. So that's nine less. However the candidate vote counts. Are all within the same kind of one or two vote margins that we've seen all day. If not exact. And so we'll see where the discrepancies are as we go through I would say. And that is going to require some follow up with the clerk. It appears that there were a how many a number of ballots. Hand counted. And added to the totals on the tabulator tape which might account for. The difference in ballot count that we're seeing. But for now I'm just going to go through the candidate vote totals from the ORV. And we can compare them to the. Vote totals in the audit. Biden had sixteen eighty-five. Blankenship two. Carol one. Collins five. Duncan two. Hawkins eleven. Jorgensen twenty three. Kennedy four. Lafontaine eight. McCormick two. Brick page ten. Brock Pierce one. Gary swing one. Donald trump eight oh one. West seventeen. Thirteen write-ins. Three over votes and thirty nine blank votes. Three six. Twenty six. Thirteen thirteen. We typically see that those write-ins move up in the candidate totals. If they write in a candidate. Stella that's my daughter's name. I'm going to keep going. We'll go to rep. Congress. Becker fifty eight. We have. Four. Hollally thirty two. Horn fifty eight. Or nine. Tradell thirteen. Welch sixteen eighty seven. Write-ins of five. Three over votes sixty nine blank. For governor. We ability with eight. Devas with six. Dickerson thirteen point nineteen. Payton seventeen. Whitney eleven. Zuckerman six twenty eight. Write-ins of fifteen. No over votes forty five blank. Let me know if anybody wants to stop and look at it. It does seem to be the blanks to me. Also. Which are consistently running higher on your side. Lieutenant governor. Bill ado thirty one. Corbo nine. Erickson fifty three. Ray twelve thirty seven. Milne twelve twenty seven. Six write-ins. Zero over votes sixty five blanks. Lieutenant governor. Bill ado thirty one. Corbo nine. Erickson fifty three. Did I just do that. Twelve thirty seven I did twelve twenty seven. Six zero sixty five I apologize. State treasurer. Branigan seven eighty nine. Erickson eighty seven. Pierce fourteen forty three. Write one forty seven. Write-ins of two. One over vote. Hundred and fifty nine blank. Secretary of State. Condos fifteen fourteen. Erickson sixty five. Page seven oh six. Smith one ninety seven. Zero write-ins. Zero over vote one hundred forty six blanks. Eleven additional blanks right. That's what I'm saying too. Auditor. Chris Erickson three sixty four. Hofford nineteen eighteen. Write-ins of ten. No over votes. Three hundred thirty six blanks. Those are what I'm curious about. So that we may have had some just blank unvoted ballots mixed in with the voted ballots. In her bag. Okay. I'm going to keep moving through. Attorney General. Donovan sixteen forty. Erickson one oh five. Page seven oh six. Six write-ins. Zero over votes. One hundred seventy one blanks. State Senator Huff eleven oh nine. McDonald thirteen ninety. Five write-in. One over vote. One hundred twenty three blank. State state rep. Deering two twenty three. Hooper fifteen ninety four. Read five fifty. Roach four fifty nine. Russell seven oh eight. Sackowitz a thousand two. Six write-ins. Two over votes. Seven hundred twelve blanks. And high bail if you have con toys with two thousand forty four. Thirty write-ins. Three over votes. Five hundred fifty one blank. Even more. And that's to me that is most likely that we may have just had some blank ballots mixed in the bag along with the voted ballots. We should. Two to go folks. Two to go. She gave you the primary. Ballot. Forty five minutes. Why don't you try calling her. We may not be able to hold over. How many did she report. Twelve hundred. Twelve seventy. Twelve seventy. Twelve seventy. Twelve seventy. Not a horrific number of ballots. I mean we'll stay whatever we need. Read on. Read on. You've got your primary ballot. Well yeah. You want me to meet you? You have a more ballot? One hundred and eight. One hundred and eight. We have to put it in the stadium? Put it on the floor. Put it on the floor. Okay. It's pretty quick then. Yeah that's only twenty minutes. Okay. I'll study in the tunnel. Okay that's fine. We need to put it on the floor. Okay we'll go by ourselves. Yeah I don't care about it. It's about three hours, three and a half hours. So we're good. Warm. Did someone already ask about it? No. I think it was the wrong bag. We don't have the extra amount. She's saying, ladies, long time campaign manager, she called me one day and said that Ann Berry's one of her close friends. I think Ann Berry had actually worked for a lady that, you know, since they were looking for someone and since the lady's name was saying it goes on. So Carolyn, look at your name. Are you willing to be supportive? Absolutely. And that's what I said once it's official. But yeah. It's, it was, you know, I said to Carolyn, I said, Carolyn, you may or may not know. She's been the president of her dash on this stuff at the national level. She's obviously, she is the go-to person here. I said, that was, and I said, that's her background. Now I said, this isn't a full-time thing, right? So you're not taking her away from me. So, so I said to her, I said, so what happens if this is a full-time position? I said, I think she might move to DC. I said, she went to school in Maryland, so. Which one of my colleagues, was she looking for someone from DC? I'm just going to say they probably have a lot more money than we do. That's good for us. So yeah, so, well, I mean, I gotta believe that probably pays more than our job, your job does, your, but on the other hand, you could have what you do, do not say a word.  Would I give you the time to do it? And I said, yeah, she could have the time to do it. I said, that was your policy, you should just go on full-time down there. How do you do on Cal? Are you okay? Yeah. Easy. Pretty clean? I'm getting behind here. Hold on. No, this is the revised one after you back the two out. Does it? Because my other one was 221. Oh, yeah. Right there. So it's 2209 ballots counted. Yeah. So that's the revised one. Yeah. I have a fully marked ballot. Can you see that? Yeah. I almost feel like it's like, I almost feel like it's like a test ballot. You can tell it's like a voter that's doing a circle. How many defect did she have? Sorry? 11. 1790, 1790. Yep. We'll see if it's probably a blank ballot. All blank. All blank. Can you see that? Yeah. I forgot to ask. No. No. I feel like if they handmarked their test deck, it would have been, but the right end of the very last page all had check marks in it. So it was a human that did it. Right. So no, they do, we ask them to do their test deck. Like they take back the ballots and then they give their test deck. Yeah. But from all the audits I've ever done, I don't ever recall any voter-marked ballots. But if anything is possible, I'm going to point that out. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. You guys, look at that. Condos is talking hockey in the back. Soccer now. Curious. Overvotes. Six. Six. Yeah. Five on five. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Five on five. Okay. So we're going to take a look at the results from the town of, town of. I thought we were still in Randolph. On election night on the official return of vote, the clerk reported 1792 ballots counted. Today we counted 1793. So that's close. There's a possibility that a ballot from the test deck used to test the tabulator ended up with the voted ballots. Yeah. But we're going to go ahead and compare the results. So in the president's race, Biden has 892. Blankenship to Carroll to Collins one. Duncan to Hawkins five. Jorgensen 21. Kennedy to. Copic K one. Lafontaine seven. McCormick two. Page two. Scalf one. Segal one. Trump 831. West five. One right in. Six over votes. Eight blank. Very close across the board. You want to take a look at Trump's just just for fun. The least confident Trump. Because you had one additional. The later marks. And we did have two. You counted. No, we counted more blank. Three right in. You want to look at the right ends too. I'm just curious. We're doing she had Leonard. So they missed the two right in somehow. Okay. Let's keep going. Rep to Congress. Becker had 89. Berry 658. Hallowley four. Horn 32. Or 16. Trudell four. Welch 902. One right in five over votes. 81 blank. I'd say those light marks. Yeah. Governor. Billidude seven. DeVost seven. Dickerson seven. Hoyt 208. Payton 22. Scott 999. Whitney 32. Zuckerman 457. Three right in. Two over votes. 48 blank. Five. Yeah. And that's again where you guys had two more than us. Lieutenant Governor. Billidude 55. Corbo nine. Erickson 42. Gray 766. Scott Millen 828. Four right in. Two over votes. 86 blank. Let's go to Treasurer. Brannigan 733. Erickson 60. Pierce 762. Wright 111. Two right in. One over vote. 123 blank. It's those two again. Brannigan I'm sure. Secretary of State. Condo 790. Erickson 52. Page 707. Smith 133. Zero right in. Three over votes. 107 blank. So the auditor. Erickson 324. Hoffer 1129. Five right in. Two over votes. 332 blank. And Attorney General. Donovan 837. Erickson 93. Page 744. Zero right in. One over vote. 117 blank. State Senator. We had Campion 704. Hall 422. Hanson 570. Hoyt 264. Sears 838. Three right in. One over vote. 782 blank. State rep. You looking at him? What are you looking at? It's the light ones again. It's a good consistent pattern there. State rep Brownell. Had 1190. 246 right in. Zero over votes. And 356 blank votes. High bailiff. Frederick Gilbarre. 1412. 16 right in votes. Zero over votes. And 364 blank votes. And that's a very good job to the town. Of. Townell. And that gives me a chance while we wait for the Warren ballots. I just wanted to make the comment that I for those watching in those here. As we've gone through these. As the director of elections. I am very satisfied and comfortable with the deviation that we've seen between the ORB's. Um, Um, and the audit. For the vast majority of these races. We're confirming the vote counts on election night. Um, and I think it's indicative of the accuracy of the tabulators. And the election officials. Who are reporting the results. Really exciting program. It's not. Yeah. I didn't. Watch that. You know we stream. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We might need to do. We're supposed to be at. 1270. Yeah. 1269. Because she had one that said it went through twice. Any all blanks. 1269 is what we're looking for. So you're six shots somehow. I'll leave it up to you. Well, we had two. What's the note here? That's. 1270. But then she had. One mark that she figured out was read twice. 1269. That's why I was saying 1269. Yeah. Which is about what she's got there. No potential for double. Feeds here. I mean, they were watching it. You don't think there are any double feeds. So. Here. No, because like when it happened, there was. Yeah. It doesn't seem like we would happen on the last one. So we've got six less ballots counted. Jim for Warren. Then we're reported on election night. So that's something I would follow up with the clerk about. See if she has any idea about why we might be six ballots under. It's obviously. It's obviously going to throw. No. And it was a pretty clean. It was a pretty organized bag. No blank ballots. So it's not easy to explain. At this point. But if you'd like, should we still go through the totals? I think so. Quickly. Yeah. It might give us. Like give us some kind of indication. So for president. President. I have Biden with 1039. Collins with one. Duncan with one. Hawkins with three. Jorgensen with 17. Lafontaine with one. Page with two. Swing with two. Trump with 179. And West with four. 15 right ends. Six. Blanks. And six blanks. Between what two. 1039. And 179. Versus 176. Which would be six. For Beck. Rep to Congress. Becker at 14. Barry 180. Halali 14. Horn 19. Or four. Tradel four. Right ends of two. Three over votes. 49 blank. 1270. It's going to be variable though. Governor we ability with one. DeVos with three. Dickerson with five. Hoyt with 16. Excuse me. Hoyt with one. Peyton with 16. Scott with 761. Whitney with four. We have zero blank. Lieutenant governor. Billidoo at 12. Corbo 8. Erickson 21. Gray 12. Milne 371. No right ends. No over vote. 46 blanks. State treasurer. Branigan 227. Erickson 50. Pierce 833. No over votes. 106 blank. Secretary of State. Condos 866. Erickson 38. Page 206. Smith 80. Two right ends. Zero over votes. 78 blanks. Auditor. Erickson at 168. Hofford 902. Six right ends. No over votes. 194 blanks. Attorney General Donovan at 929. Erickson 54. Page 189. One right end. 97 blanks. No over votes. State Senate. We had Alger with 213. Cummings with 857. Perchwick with 593. Polina with 718. Tomasi with 213. Tucker with 189. Valorand with 103. Six right ends. No over votes. 918 blanks. State rep. Dolan 964. Grad 892. 48 right ends. Eight over votes. And 628 blanks. And for high bailiff. Poulin 313. Skinder 760. 9 total right ends. Zero over votes. 188 blanks. Five is the biggest delta on any of them. If you had 1263, we were looking for 1269. That's six. It's only six. The six ballot difference that we were looking for. So I would expect them to be around within five. I will follow up with the Warren clerk about any idea about under counting the low number of ballots that we found today from the ballot bag. I'm looking at the 48 right ends and the rep race. Secretary Condas is a good example of why we're trying to get them to not have to report all those names. That concludes the audit for the 2020 general election. If anybody out there on the live stream has any questions please feel free to follow up with me. My office. Otherwise, thanks for coming. Thanks for being here. Thanks for watching. I don't know if Jim wants to say anything but otherwise, thanks again. So I think the important take away from this is that we have a simple, safe and secure elections process. We follow the rules. Our clerks follow the rules and we are fortunate to have hard working town clerks, hard working election staff and we're thankful for our voters for turning out this past year and setting the new record for voter turnout. We are now in the top 10 for voter turnout in the country and we're very excited about that. Thanks.


Hey, what's up, coach? Welcome back to the channel today. I'm gonna be answering a question. This is a pretty common question I've been getting recently and we're gonna hop into this in two seconds Welcome to the build my sports biz show where we talk about how to create build and scale your own local sports training business It's time to get started with your host Ben neighbors. The show starts right now All right now today's question this comes from a soccer trainer and I really resonated with this question because I have already walked the path with this exact question and There are a lot of coaches that are subscribed to this channel that have also messaged me about this All right, so I'll summarize his question. His name is Jose and Jose asked basically said hey Ben I'm spreading myself out too thin right now. I find myself going and watching so many games of my clients And now the parents are expecting me to be at most of their their child's games Throughout the season and I'm not being paid for that It's something that they're just expecting me to do and I have seen this question a lot and essentially what's happening is Jose you've gotten close with the clients that you're working with which is great You've gotten to watch some games of theirs, which is awesome I have been preaching that since day one of those YouTube channel that every coach should go do those things but now it's become an Expectation with your clients that you will be there every game and they're not paying you to do it so how do you draw the line with your clients and Start either getting paid for that or you stop going to the games at all All right, and this is becomes more common when a coach is either married Or they want to have some downtime on the weekend and they don't want to be glued to Going to games. All right, which takes time. You got to drive there. You got to watch the game You got to talk to people it can be a great marketing tool, but if that's all you do every Saturday and Sunday it gets old and Even though you're doing that Like you're going to get burned out like you're gonna get burned out and that's exactly what's happening here to Jose So here's what I recommend and I if Jose was a client or if you're watching this and you were a client is exactly what I would tell you to do And this is exactly what I've done in the past and here's what it is first we need to create a Service all right, and the service is a game evaluation analysis. All right, and Parents can purchase this service So what happens is they can either purchase it and now you're being paid to go watch the game All right and and provide an analysis or they don't pay and you don't go watch the games Now I'm only telling you to do this if you've already if you feel like you're spread out too thin Like you feel like you're you're doing this so much and and you feel like you need to be earning an income of Watching all these games. We need to create it as a service. That's number one. Then we need to tell all the clients. Hey If you would like for me to watch any of the upcoming games Click on this link here and you can reserve a time for me to come watch throughout the season and That should take them to a page where they can enroll and pay you online. So they're paying you up front For that service now, I'm gonna give you some good examples here There are some coaches I'm working with that have implemented this and I I helped them do this Maybe two or three years ago and a lot of coaches are doing it more now but the way it looks is parents can buy either a One-off game that you can come evaluate or they could buy a season or they could buy two It doesn't really matter how you have it set up, right? What matters is drawing the line between doing that for free and Having it as a service and if you have that as a service and you already have really committed clients I promise you parents will pay For you to come watch their child play they want that feedback From you because you are you have an unbiased opinion from the parents you have an unbiased opinion from your the client that you're working with from their coach and The parents will really value that and they will pay you top dollar if you provide that as a service All right, so you've got to provide as a service then you need to tell your clients Hey, if this is something you want to do click here Enroll if you don't want to do that. That's fine I'm not going to be coming to watch your child play anymore and this Comes down to just evolving your business and making changes and be willing to let go of things that you're currently doing that are ticking you off and I think this is really hard for a lot of coaches to do because they're they're so In the weeds with their business and they're just going and going and going and then they finally realize well I can't do this anymore. So this is why you create as a service You'll see less people are going to actually want to do that, but those who do will pay so now it's an extra way to earn revenue with your business and Probably going to enjoy watching that game a lot more If they're paying you a hundred or two hundred dollars to go watch it, right? And that's my opinion on this so Jose Hopefully this helps and if you're a coach watching this and you have questions for me All right, all you need to do to get in touch with me. It's very simple. All right on the screen here You can see my phone number. It just popped up text me at that number I'd love to get on a zoom call with you for 10 to 15 minutes Connect with you talk with you Hopefully give you some pointers with your business so you can grow and scale up That's really the whole goal of my channel like my goal of this channel is very simple I want to help more kids the only way I can help more kids and Expand that the way that I'm looking to expand my business is by helping more coaches have better businesses. All right, so that means Your training higher quality clients that means you you become the best marketer in your city That means you become better at selling. These are all the things all the tools that that I work on with coaches When I'm able to help so if you want to go look at any case studies or any results of coaches Who worked with go to my website build my sports biz calm I'm sure you can sift through there and find hundreds of examples of success stories. So that's it for today's episode and I'll catch you later


My talk is another city is possible, and I'm delighted to follow Richard Excuse me. I feel that Richard has put the first torpedo beneath the waterline of this very silly idea the smart city And I'd like if I may to attempt to put a second beneath the waterline See if we can't sink this thing before it aborns itself So I work in the technology sector. I've worked in the technology sector for about a dozen years now And I started a practice in New York City about a year and a half ago called urban scale and we work at the intersection of Technology and urbanism and in this sector what you will very often hear is this notion the smart city the smart city the smart city And I'm not particularly bright So I found myself beating my head against this notion and I realized that I really didn't understand what this thing The smart city was what it was supposed to be And I thought you know who better to ask than the institutions the enterprises the organizations that are delivering this thing called the smart city So I went on the websites of some of the larger enterprises that we associate with this idea And I subjected their marketing materials to a close reading and In this close reading I was attempting to answer a couple of questions. I was I was trying to figure out what the smart city is When it was supposed to happen Where is going to be installed for whom its benefits were supposed to be deployed and Why why a smart city and why now? So I'd like to walk you very quickly through some of the things that I encountered on these websites is very interesting This is IBM's description of the smart city It's technology that synchronizes and analyzes efforts among sectors and agencies as they happen giving decision makers Consolidated information that helps them anticipate problems and manage growth and development in a sustainable way that minimizes disruptions and helps increase prosperity for everyone Cisco's description and mind you I find this to be the least Objectionable of all of these descriptions Those of you in the audience are from Cisco. You should pat yourselves on the back Cisco describes the smart city is the seamless integration of public and private services So both public and private delivered across a common network infrastructure to individuals Governments and businesses so in about the right order of priority as far as I'm concerned Siemens describes the smart city thusly several decades from now Cities will have countless autonomous intelligently functioning IT systems that will have perfect knowledge of users habits and energy consumption And provide optimum service the goal of such a city is To optimally regulate and control resources by means of autonomous IT systems I think we're beginning to get an idea what this place the smart city is all about Then there's this organization living planet They described the smart city as a complete picture of building state usage and operations continually maintained allowing constant optimization of energy resources environment and Occupant support and convenience systems So, you know when you thought that you're going to the corner shop or a dive bar or a museum what you're really enjoying was Occupant support and convenience system. I just want you to think about that for a second I'm living planet also is probably the most honest in their description of what the smart city is They describe it as the missing link between the real estate and the technology sectors and I think that's probably the winner So I think we can get an idea now of what the smart city is I mean it's something that I think we can associate in in form and substance with some of the ideas that this man had Le Corbusier the famous Modernist high modernist architect and urbanist of the 20th century and particularly his notion of the virides a City which was deployed for a visual order an optical order a God's eye perspective here We see this taken up in the ground plan of Brasilia although he didn't work on it himself Obviously his ideas were extraordinarily influential here This is a city which is organized for one purpose and one purpose alone The purpose is watchfulness from above and I want you to hold on to that idea as we move through the rest of these ideas Well in all of the material I was exposed to there was definitely a notion of when When the smart city would be something that we would get to play with and in in the proximate future The the technologists Paul Dirich and Genevieve Bell have this notion of technology always taking place in a future That's just around the corner the proximate future 19 minutes into the future a time where we can avoid Accountability for any of the conjectures or claims that we're making because they're not quite here yet They're always in the sort of time of suspension. It's time of futurity What where is the smart city going to happen? It's gonna happen primarily on Greenfield sites as Richard points out in what delis called any space whatever space Unconditioned abstract space at degree zero with infinite potentials for interconnection But no history no texture no memory For whom is the smart city being devised and here? I'm gonna respectfully depart from Richard's take on things I think it's clear that in a place like the the operation center the intelligent operation center that IBM built for the city of Rio What we see is that optical order consecrated to the purposes of administration The smart city is deployed all of these technological resources are deployed for a managerial elite not aimed at the people themselves And I can tell you having come from Several weeks of involvement with Occupy Sandy in New York City that the people themselves in a horizontal leaderless Organization are able to make better use of informational resources than either FEMA the federal government or the accredited charity The charitable organization the Red Cross So I wonder in the smart city why we're deploying all of this information strictly for the convenience of a few when we Could deploy it equally easily for everybody The why of the smart city well as we've seen from these marketing statements the idea is to optimize resource utilization and Minimize disruptions and I think we've already seen in Rio That when we speak of minimizing disruptions what we mean is limiting the practice of democracy in the streets So ladies and gentlemen, this is the smart city For all of these issues, I think the real problem with the smart city is that it has nothing to do with cities This notion of the smart city is an abstract terrain for the operations of market enterprises It is a market It is a place where organizations have chosen to deploy the off-the-shelf and turnkey technologies They developed for other purposes in an urban context that really doesn't engage with them in the scale or in the manner That they were devised to accommodate and We can see this in the marketing materials again when we speak of the goal of such a city It's very curious to me to speak of a city is having goals. What is the goal of Cleveland? What is the goal of Ankara? I don't believe that cities have goals. I think again I want to reflect on that terrifying piece of English language Occupant support and convenience systems. This is the mindset that we're bringing to these places. I Would like to argue to you that another city is in fact possible a city that in my heart I associate with another thinker the 20th century my hero Jane Jacobs and her thoughts about the development of spontaneous order from below and a development of organic order in place that accommodates and builds itself in fact upon all that messy history built up over time By an infinity of small acts and so instead of the smart city as it's being offered to us I would argue to you that we can use the same underlying techno social potentials to build entirely different kinds of experiences my friend and colleague Anthony Townsend is in fact identified five technological preconditions for this he says that if we have broadband connectivity and Cheap or ultra low-cost smart personal devices if we have a commitment to open municipal data and Cheap and accessible public interfaces and if we have a robust cloud computing infrastructure We can in fact build Technological experiences in 21st century cities that respond far more to the sorts of claims that I would make about what makes Urban life worthwhile and what makes the constitution of a metropolitan and a cosmopolitan self. I would like to remind us that Cities are like soilent green. They're made of people and in this case these people in terrier square or these people in Madrid These people in Montreal or these people in my home city of New York Indeed, this is my favorite picture From Occupy Dam square in Dublin. These are people making the 21st century in real time with the technologies that Anthony identifies as a precondition So I would argue to you that the terrain that we need to operate on is not the abstract unconditioned space at degree zero It's not just any city at all It is in fact this city wherever this city happens to be with all of its texture all of its history all of its quiddity Not at all in some futurity, but now and certainly not just for administrators But for all of us The smart city is we've already come to recognize it excuse me The smart city is we've already come to recognize it is a discourse and a rhetorical production But it is certainly not an inevitability It is merely one selection from a sheaf of techno social possibilities And I would argue to you that at this point in history It's both incumbent upon us and it remains clearly a great potential that we can do better I thank you very much for your time and your attention