Hey everybody, welcome to our 15th anniversary celebration of wiki tree. We are so excited It's been a good year. I'm excited to be here with my team members. It's not very often that you guys get to see all of us in one place, or most of us at least. And so here we are. We're excited to be here. We're excited to share a little bit about ourselves and what we love about wiki tree. If you're not familiar with wiki tree, I just want to share real quick a little video so that you can understand what we're all about here. So let me do that. Have you researched your family history? Preserve it. Collaborate with your cousins to grow it. Connect it with research from over a million other family history enthusiasts from around the world for free. Welcome to wiki tree, a volunteer based mission driven community dedicated to growing an accurate single family tree. A tree that we all share. Close cousins on wiki tree privately collaborate on profiles of living family members and the recently deceased. Collaboration on deep ancestors is between genealogists who are meticulous about research and cite their sources like historians. Genetic genealogists on wiki tree carefully compare DNA to further increase accuracy. All our efforts come together as one on wiki tree to be preserved and enjoyed by cousins and descendants long after we are gone. Our community is special because we've grown from the grassroots up instead of top down in a big corporation. This has made our community uniquely productive and enjoyable. We're creating something wonderful and having fun at the same time. Come join us at wiki tree.com. So that's a little bit about us and what we do. I think first we'll just kind of start and we'll go around if we can introduce ourselves and just talk a little bit about what we do at wiki tree. Chris, do you have anything you want to say before we jump into questions? No, no, I'm really excited that it's 15 years and that the community chose to celebrate it like this. I think it's been a really great few days so far and hope today is wonderful. That's going to be awesome. Oh, I was going to share just a few milestones from this year before we jump in. So we have over a million members. We just passed 36 million profiles on wiki tree. 31 million of those are now connected to the global tree. And over 12 million of those have DNA test connections. So that's pretty awesome. So I'll just start even though people are probably really tired of seeing me this weekend, but I'm in the forest. I've been in the forest all for 10 years. I do things. I do. I don't even know how to summarize. I do a lot of the community stuff. So I love being involved with wiki trees. You guys are my favorite thing about wiki tree. So the community stuff I do a lot of outreach. I run the challenges. I do a lot and G to G just getting to interact with you guys. I do over a series of social media stuff. Yeah, I do the things. Yup, put together things like this. So that's what I do. More support for the rest of us. More support for the team. For wiki tree. The rest of us in line. So yeah, but that's plenty about me. So how about we go to Paul. Okay. Well, I've been with wiki tree about as long as you want. So it's about 10 years. Just over 10 years. My work's a lot behind the scenes. I mainly handle the UPMs, the unresponsive profile manager requests and the open profile requests. That keeps me pretty busy most of the time. When I find other time, I wander around and look for projects privacy levels like a 200 year old person who's got an unlisted setting that needs to be opened up. There's a few of them scattered around. And generally answer a few questions when people are stuck somewhere. So yeah, that's pretty much my main field. And then other times I on my own, I go out and try and promote wiki tree to talks and libraries and recently did a talk for ABC Radio here in Australia on semi trees, which I'm very active in on wiki tree. So that's probably enough about me. No, that's good. You're definitely one of our behind the scenes heroes for sure. How about a lash. Hi, I'm a lash from Slovenia. So European time usually is good for me on wiki tree. I do mostly technical things. So I did write the connection finder engine that is powering all the relations between profiles. That's part of the main tree and the rest is connected mostly to wiki tree plus where I do many, many things. I wouldn't go into details, but generally the suggestions are part of it. Tracking of the challenges and I maintain the edit bot that is handling categories and templates where they need some major changes. And many other things where some technical advice is needed. You're definitely skills. Yeah, you're definitely in front of the scenes here. Yeah, wiki tree plus is definitely definitely enhanced wiki tree. I think we'd all be at a loss if that went away. How about Jamie. Hi, I'm Jamie. I'm the community technology assistant. I think that's my title. And I answered tech questions on G2G and through email. I keep track of all the bug reports and try to figure out why they're happening and also keep track of improvement requests. I do most of the testing before we release new features. I also lead the wiki tree apps project. So like most of the apps are programmed by other people that are amazing volunteers. And I just kind of try to encourage people to, you know, like, that's how I started out was just kind of coding stuff on my own. And I do some other tech stuff. Just all coding changes and stuff like that. So yeah, that's mostly what I do. Very cool. Yeah, you're like the tech person in G2G for us. I think you answer a lot of the questions there. Yeah. And luckily like a lot of people have sometimes just linked to answers that I've given before, which saves me some or the answer too. So that's cool. Thank you for doing that. All right, Julie. Oh, hello everybody. I'm Julie and I have been on the team for two stints. I think one was about a year and now it's been three years or so. And I might my official title is community assistant. So that kind of makes things a little broad. But primarily I support our functional projects like the rangers, mentors, readers, and when they need team support, they ask me for help and I give them feedback. A lot of the things that I do for the like the mentors is to help them find policy pages that would be helpful when they're trying to help the community. And I answer some of the emails and info ads and I ask a lot of questions with Jamie and sometimes a lash. I send people to Paul. Welcome. So I'm kind of out there a little bit when I'm a little behind the scenes and I'll just pop up every once in a while depending on what's going on. Julie is the unsung hero of the problems with members process. I try we try to try to make that a useful resource that is hopefully not terribly contentious. It's a problem solver. Resolution. Yes. So we do have two team members who couldn't be here today, but we do not want to leave them out. So they answered the questions and I'm just going to share. So first is Abby. She is very rarely on camera. A lot of you probably haven't seen her, but she is another one of our behind the scene heroes. So if you email info, she's most likely the one that you're going to hear back from. So here's what she said about her role at wiki tree. I am the primary person helping to handle requests sent to the team email inbox, though all of us do a little something in there. Much of that time is spent helping with issues people may be having with wiki tree or email closing accounts for deceased family and members. Many administrative tasks such as completing private default services, answering general questions from new members, checking into oddities and errors, and asking for help from our big guns, Jamie and Brian, plus much more. I also plan, gather, improve and curate the weekly connection finder themes and lists. Another part of my role is helping to gather nominations for new leaders, setting them up in their roles and helping them to retire when that time comes. So that is what Abby does. So you probably do see her in G to G for the connection finder stuff. She does that every week. And then Steve, he is also not on camera very often, but another one of our behind the scenes folks. So here's what Steve said about his role. My current title is special projects coordinator, but that may be a leftover from when I first joined the team and only scratches the surface of what my role encompasses. As the project manager, I help to coordinate projects and provide tech support for administrative tasks. This includes setting up project accounts, Google groups and discord channels, and assisting in monitoring project suggestions. I also offer support to projects when additional permissions are required, such as clearing suggestions on pre-1500 or private profiles, creating or modifying templates and granting badge permissions to project coordinators. I also work on tasks which are not nearly as visible to most members, such as data analysis, monitoring SEO, and identifying potential improvements. I also work with Chris on ad publishing efforts, which is essential in sustaining wiki tree as a free and accessible resource. So there's a little bit about each of us. Chris, to answer that one, I'm going to keep going. Yeah. So I'm the president and founder of wiki tree. So I do things. He does things too. I do what nobody else does. I do the administration and income and expenses and management. And I guess like just big picture making sure that everything stays focused on the mission and that the community has what they need to do it. Our wiki tree in chief, that's what we call him. So how did you find wiki tree? What started Juliana? You know, I don't really remember a hundred percent. It was back in 2011. So I was one of the first people here, I guess, close to it. It was still very small. There wasn't anybody here. And I had received a large book from my parents that my mother had given to my dad that chronicled the history of his family. And I was really interested in it and started digging around finding places where I could do genealogy, which I really didn't know what that meant at that point. And I found wiki tree because it was free. So I thought that was great because back then there was nothing that was free in regards to genealogy. So I dove in and didn't really find very many people to talk to. So I came back a couple years later. And there were a lot more people here. And there was a lot of talk going on in T2G. And I just kind of started reading everything out there and kind of started getting the gist. And some of our original members were very kind and steered me in the right direction and gently suggested that I should maybe add some sources to things that I was putting on my profiles. And that was it. Cool. How about you, Jamie? Yeah, I don't. I don't remember exactly how I found it. So I signed up for my account in 2012, but I don't remember doing that. I was on WeRelate for a long time. And then I switched over to FamilySearch's Tree when that launched. And that was kind of frustrated by some of the things there. So then I was like, oh, I'd like, let's replace it for FamilySearch and the found wiki tree. And then I was like, oh, I already have an account. So that was about the end of 2015 that I found it again. And then I think it was the connection finder or like the connections to me thing that got me sucked in. So I started trying to add connections to famous people to the tree. And yeah, I got addicted. Alash, how about you? Well, I also was searching for a free solution to put my tree on the Internet. And wiki tree was the one I found with all others that were kind of free. There were some limitations and here there are actually none. So that was initially what got me into it. I wasn't really interested in the single tree aspect of it because I didn't really connect to existing profiles for a long time. But now it's interesting to see. That's interesting aspect also to see how you're connected to Queen Elizabeth and other notables. Paul, you're here almost pretty close to the beginning, right? Well, 10 years or so. That's a little bit afterwards. I can still remember when I found it. Actually, I'd been on Genie for a while and they went commercial. So I didn't like that. So I looked around and there was wiki tree waiting. And I had quite a substantial tree at that time. I think I think it will limit some dead coms at that stage. And I think I uploaded something like 25,000 people. And then Chris, I got to talk to Chris a lot and then the other side of the world, it was quite interesting because I remember when he was doing a bit of updating and things that I'd spotted in what would be the middle of the night with him, I could fix it before it really became a problem. So we got talking a bit and got to know each other over those years. And it became, well, it's invaluable to me. I can't think of anywhere else I'd rather have my tree. I do that collaborative aspect of it. Not everybody sort of understands that, but the huge majority do. And if you can work together with somebody, it's only to your own benefit to do that. So, yeah, I can't see myself ever finding anywhere else as good as wiki tree. And probably the oldest one here, so I've been putting trees on here since the browsers were text browsers. I think I used the links browser when I put my first tree up somewhere. So I found wiki tree. I want to say it was like April of 2012. It was back when you had to be invited. So I remember my account was set up by Tammy, who used to be a team member a while ago. And so I got the email from her that said, you know, hey, your account's ready. So I was like, sweet. And I signed in and I had no idea what to do. I kind of looked around and I just, you know, I wasn't super familiar with wikis. And so I just didn't really do much. And then a year later, for some reason, I must have popped up somewhere and I was like, oh yeah, I had an account there. And I came back and there is a little bit more community stuff going on. And so I was really excited. I kind of like jumped in wherever I could find stuff to do. Yes, I'm one of those annoying people who likes to be at the top of the contributions list. So I was doing a lot of contributing because the same guy had been at the top of the list for months and I was really determined to be him. And I did for that one month. But I probably annoyed a lot of members because I was doing mergers and I had no idea what I was doing. And sorry, people from 2013. So, but yeah, I mean, obviously I've been hooked ever since wiki tree is kind of my home away from home. I'm on it that much. Abby answered this one. So Abby has been here since 2011. She said, I had worked on hosting my own family history site, but found that I really wanted to be able to work with the cousins who shared ancestry. I did some web searching and found genie and wiki tree. I dug in a little and decided I liked the wiki tree approach to things and uploaded a GEDCOM that day. I've been here ever since. And Chris, you founded wiki tree. So we won't ask how you found wiki tree. So members wanted to know what is your genealogy story? So like how did you get into genealogy? So, Alash, I would like to know from you. Well, here genealogy is not so popular as in other places in the world because you just go to the local cemetery and you see most of your ancestors there. So it wasn't really something that I was searching for my roots. And even now all the roots are still from Slovenia. So we didn't migrate much. But I was interested in ancestors.  But now I was able to find many sources up to 1700. So I extended my family quite a bit. Cool. So if I remember right, we finally got you connected and then was it during the wiki games that you got disconnected? Yeah, I disconnected myself. It was a wrong link. I mean, I found the proof that there were two persons with the same names that migrated to America and that wasn't my relative. Well, we got you reconnected pretty quickly. Yeah, a day later. On another branch. Jamie, how about you? So I was kind of exposed to genealogy from a young age just because I grew up LDS. And so that's kind of big in the church. But I wasn't super interested because it was a church activity. And so like, so like I knew what genealogy and family history was, but I didn't get interested in it until like my, until I got into like my early 20s. And then my, my dad had a photo album. And he was like, so my dad's side wasn't LDS. And then he was like, Hey, you're good at computers. Like, I know this picture is of a pastor and he's my ancestor, like figure out who he is. And so I was like, okay, I could probably, I could probably figure this out. And yes, I signed up for an ancestry trial and got, got sucked in. Once I figured out who this guy was, it was like, Oh, this is like solving a puzzle. And yeah, yeah. There's a lot of genealogy. Very cool. So Steve answered this one. So let me go ahead and share Steve. He said, my origin story mirrors that of many others. It began with a strong desire to uncover more about my family's roots and connect with the stories of my ancestors. In 2011, while visiting the grave of our recently deceased family matriarch, I had a profound realization. I found myself not just surrounded by headstones, but by the resting places of many of my ancestors. This sparked my curiosity. After some initial research, I swiftly discovered that I had familial connections to a significant number of individuals interred in that cemetery. Among those grave sites was my third great-grandfather, a figure I had struggled to chase in one of my genealogical brick walls. Around 2012, I stumbled upon wiki tree when it was an invitation-only state and began exploring the platform and its capabilities. This marked the beginning of my journey, which turned into a deep involvement in the genealogy community. Over time, I evolved from a curious newcomer to a project coordinator, then a project leader, and now a dedicated wiki tree member. So that's Steve. How about you, Paul? Oh, me, yes.  Asking parents, while I'm being in Australia, of course, my mother's side, I can go right back to the convicts. My father's Danish, though, so that was a different thing. And I asked my parents and grandparents that I got great little information, and researching them was going to libraries and poring through microfilms. It wasn't really until the internet came around that I finally discovered we had convict ancestors. I got, I think, five convicts there, one coming on the very first sleep to Australia. Also, I asked my Danish relatives, could they give me some information? They said, yes, yes, yes, but that never was forthcoming. So eventually I discovered at the point that the Danish church records went all online, and you can go on there and look through all the church records, even though they're not itemized in any way. You have to actually search through the actual pages. It's still helped me find people back as far as 1600, because they were very well documented back there. So I finally managed to get my trees together and grow them, and then the DNA came along and helped to close a few of the deadlines. So it became, it was quite a journey, yeah. Sounds like it. Abby answered that one too, so she said, I always love family history, but dug in deep when a college short-term course was offered in genealogy. My childhood best friend and I took the course together and enjoyed the research with her, tooling around to various cemeteries and history libraries, as well as finding out how we are related. I never stopped that research, and I even talked her into joining WikiTree all these years later, though she isn't nearly as active as I am. Julie? First let me apologize if my dogs get noisy. It's normal walking time here, so they have to wait. Well, I mentioned the book that my mom got for my dad. I had it here. Anybody familiar with this kind of thing? Got all my newspaper clippings and stuff in it. And it's like 400 years with my dad's family. But when I dove into that and got very interested in, like Jamie said, the puzzle aspect of it, I started learning more also about my mom's side and learned that my grandmother was an adopted twin. So then we started digging around in that history and asking questions and discovered that her twin was adopted by a different family. And then that just led to more curiosity about, well, who was her mom and who was her dad? And it turned up a very interesting story in Sweden about her mother was a 40-year-old single woman working for a wealthy family. And the father of the twins was the husband in that wealthy family. So since then, I've done a DNA test and started connecting with some Swedish cousins very loosely. I've talked to a few people on the other side of the world. And that whole aspect of our family was very interesting to me and I wanted to learn more about Swedish culture, which we still had quite a bit of that in my family. We keep up some Swedish traditions around the holidays and that, but it was just interesting to me how that story came about. I still wish I could have learned more about their early lives, but everybody that was living at that time is gone. So I can't ask them questions anymore. But that was the whole puzzle aspect presented by my dad's side and then the mystery aspect from my mom's side is really what kept me going. Very cool. Tris, I know you were kind of the family historian for your family. That's sort of where Wikitrus started. What's roots, right? But were you into it before that, before people started giving you stuff? Yeah, so I mean, I was really interested in family history, just like the heirlooms and the objects and the stories from my grandparents. And that's been lifelong. I mean, I collected things from all over. When I was in high school, my great aunt, my grandmother's sister sat with me and actually did a family tree. So a lot of that came from there. And then it was the time of my wedding in 2005 that I wanted to put together a lot of the things I had, like that family tree that I had on paper and all these objects and connections and then also my wife's family. And so that was really the origin of Wikitree, was when I put it together on a website, that was like a little nugget that would eventually become Wikitree. Because I wanted people at the wedding to be able to say, oh, you're missing this. This is this. Point out things and add things. And so that idea of enabling people to add and contribute to it started in 2005. Very cool. So what do you like to do on Wikitree when you're not doing your team roles on Wikitree? Paul. I have a busman's holiday. I go out and cover cemeteries. That's my biggest interest. I think I photographed well over 50,000 gravestones now and with a couple of other Wikitrees, one who's actually a distant cousin. We're in Australia. We've probably added 250,000, 300,000 profiles connected to those and connected them to the tree. So I loved a little bit on the... I don't know who's responsible for that in the Wikitree team. On the symmetric category pages, where you click a button to find out who you're related to or who you're connected to. That's quite fabulous. A number of people I find in pretty much every symmetry I cover that I have a connection to. Yeah. That's my main interest and photography in general. I've seen it. That's it. Cool. Jamie, how about you? This year, I've been trying to focus or get my focus back to my own family history, because I've kind of let it slide over, working on other interests. But I also am super interested in Latter-day Saint family history and that kind of stuff. That's fun. Then I also had four brick walls in the same town in Illinois. So I've been doing a one-place study on that to try to figure out who they are. So I added everyone from the census from 1860 to 1900. It was about 3,000 people. So I've been researching all of them. And I did break down one of the brick walls. Nice stuff. Yeah. Doing one-place studies can help with that. So yeah, that's what I do for fun. Very cool. So Abby said, I don't find it very often, but when I do have the time, I always love adding random new finds. Lately, I've been trying to out my CC7 number. I know there's a lot of lateral family I haven't added yet. I also have a project working on the local history of the area I live in, and I have several trees for friends I work on, a couple of whom are adoptees I was able to use DNA to find parents for. Adding to their trees is especially fun. Oh, and rabbit holes. So many rabbit holes. They're especially bad after thorns. For example, working on the recent source of fun, I would add a source to see that the tree wasn't attached, but there was a bunch of information available. So I'd put it aside to come back to later and add to. It's so satisfying to connect unconnected branches, which I guess is why I work with the connectors project more than any other. So how about you, Alash? Well, I don't really have much free time for neurology. So I take advantage of thorns and during the thorns, I usually research my research, the church books that became now available online for Slovenia and add sources to my relatives and add also new ones that I find. So that's a genealogical part. Otherwise, occasionally I do some, I do correct some suggestions that are in the reports that I create and so, and I don't know, many other things that are very technical. Nice. How about you, Julie? Well, I rarely work on my own family, Jamie, but I do tend to fall down rabbit holes. I'm surprised I haven't run into Abby down there, but a lot of people are familiar with the Friday date night. It's kind of a challenge. We kind of loosely call it a challenge, but it's more of an effort to find all of the profiles on Wiki Tree that don't have any dates. And so that's kind of become a favorite activity of mine is to go out and work on those and then there's a group of us and anybody's welcome. We do this about every other Friday night or Friday afternoon or whatever time it is in your time zone. We get together for about an hour on Zoom and we talk about what we've been working on and sometimes it wavers off into non-topic, off-topic things and we just have a nice little community of people that are working on this kind of stuff and then they park things in a category for me and I get to go out and dive into that every now and then see if I can find people who... This is morbid, but they'll put people in there as they presume we're still living and so we put them on enlisted. And then before I take action with those, I try to find somebody to manage them but sometimes that can't happen and so we have to delete the profiles but before we do that, I go out and see if I can find an obituary for them. I don't really like doing that part, so I don't like celebrating when I find an obituary. Let me put it that way. But it is nice to be able to take the profile and keep it so that we still have that information on WikiTree but cleaning that up is just one of my favorite things and you'd be amazed at what you can find from just a profile that has first and last name and connections to some relatives. It's amazing how much information you can find out there to get them flushed out with sources and the right dates and places and get them connected to the tree. So that's one of my favorite things to work on. Very cool. I don't have a lot of time but what I do love is the random profile feature that's part of the WikiTree browser extension and you can just leave it as it is and it will just give you a random profile from anywhere on WikiTree but you can also set it so that it's just your watch list. So I try every day to hit a few random profiles that are in my watch list and I've been trying to... I've... I inherit a lot of profiles from people who have passed away and so I've been trying to go through and kind of open up the ones I can from there and clear them off my watch list and once I get my watch list down I hope I want to spend more time fixing this and working on my direct lines especially my biological family because there's... I have a lot to add still on that side so... and bonus. So Ian was super awesome. Ian Bacall I asked if we could have a random free space page option and so he added that. So now there's so many free space pages and I know there's great ones out there that are just hidden because there's so many of them I try to click through a few of the random free space pages now every day just to see what people are doing see if what's out there find some good ones to share so that's probably what I mostly do what I'm not doing actual wiki tree team stuff. So... Chris do you ever get to do... I know you pop up during the thongs marathon and do some of your stuff is that the main time for you? Yeah, like Olesh said I take advantage of the marathon events like that as an opportunity then that I just participate and so I love that I love the connectathons especially like that like for a while I was just doing Wittons where I do pick a location in New England town or something and connect there but lately since the CC7s I've been like choosing like an aunt the uncle that marries in or the cousin that marries in and then do their tree and so yeah I really love that I love connecting Very cool Yeah I think next year my goal would be to bump up my CC7 number because I think this year it's bumped up like nine so I've got to work on that I'm jealous of those people who have 30,000 so I've got to catch up I've got a lot but it's been sliding down because I have more active people than me So what is your favorite or one of your favorite features of WikiTree? Let's start with Jamie So I kind of already mentioned this when I said like how I got into WikiTree I really like the connection finder and the relationship finder it's great like being able to see how you're connected to a person you're working on and then I guess a secondary it's not really a feature but the API being able to you know program something that you want to see using the data is pretty cool How about you Lush? WikiTree Plus right? I just wanted to say that right Well I really can select something that's my favorite but WikiTree Plus is a thing to I mean all the features and that are available there and I try to invent new ones that will be useful for users lately also WikiTree browser extension is I kind of like to work on it although I don't a lot but when I do it's really cool to add new features that can improve user experience for other members I like it Paul how about you? Oh wait I think I might need to the main interest one was the symmetry category page button to find connections but also I like the symmetry map that Steve put together that's quite a wonderful one to have a look at too I quite often browse that to see what I'll go next what hasn't been done and what needs doing yeah that's probably my main feature and of course I like free space pages I think they're wonderful too definitely Julie how about you? I like everybody else I don't think I can pick a favorite I do love the collection of features that have been added by the browser extension I love categories of course the connection finder and a really nice feature of WikiTree is our community and how great they are working together and teaching other people how to be a good genie out just so I love that a lot cool so Abby said gosh that's a question lately I've been using all the WikiTree extension tools it's simple but the clipboard is always in use lately I also love using free space pages there's so much depth of family history and tradition and being able to work up pages about places items groups of people and stories and link them to the profiles of the ancestors is so handy I have several pages for family recipes for example when I have time or fun to add to I have stacks of recipes from grandparents aunts and uncles so I pick one cook it up, photograph it and type it up and put it on the space page for that ancestor and then Steve said my favorite feature on WikiTree without a doubt is the platform's collaborative nature while it may sound broad this aspect is fundamental to WikiTree's identity even though it may be hard at times considering the global inclusivity we strive for by fostering a strong sense of community and encouraging members to work together it is given rise to a wealth of unique resources and tools that set WikiTree apart from many other genealogy websites one such example is the apps project where members can actively contribute to items like tree apps and the collective efforts result in valuable tools that benefit the entire WikiTree community the sense of collaboration and shared contribution is what makes WikiTree such a special place for genealogists Chris do you have a favorite feature for two? Like Paula was saying about my connections on the categories a lot of what Alesha's code has enabled I think has really been like transformational for WikiTree most recently like I love the CC7 like I think that was like it just like sort of epitomizes what WikiTree is and encapsulates it in a nice little package so a lot of credit to Alesha because without his ultra-efficient code really a lot of these things would not be possible very true good job Alesha we're glad you're here yeah I think you guys have already said a lot of mind well like I said the random profile feature is probably one of my favorite the my connections with the categories I really enjoy that um it's not really a feature but I love the community events I love the challenges like the we will rock you you know I love the generosity of the WikiTree from this community they're so excited to help with anything really and it's just fun I love the spirit and just I love how excited WikiTrees get about everything it's so fun so that's kind of what I love so let's see what are you looking at going forward Alesha like maybe for the coming year do you have any goals or any thing you're aiming for nothing we'll see what Alesha's taking the year off I usually don't do projects that last for years I mean the idea counts I implement it and that's it that is quite true about you Jamie how about for the apps project um what do you think I guess we'll find out on the October Fest wrap up huh well that would be like stuff that we did this past year I was planning on getting better documentation up to help people like newer people to contribute to and I did not get that done last month so hopefully that's what I'll work on in the future for the apps project and just like trying to get you know there's like a lot of people that like genealogy and also are programmers like I found a lot more people in this hobby that are programmers so just convincing people to like hey like do you have like getting ideas from people like hey do you have an idea for a tool or and like connecting those people with the people that want to program something but don't have an idea cool yeah I feel like we've just had this explosion of apps and especially with the wiki tree browser and I feel like new stuff is added there faster than I can even keep up with yeah it's hard for me to keep up so that's been pretty awesome Julie anything in your arena that you're looking forward to for the next year more mentors right more rangers this is your chance to recruit I think she's frozen all right well never mind Chris how about you what would you like to see for the next year I just decided to put Oscar on camera here since he is orange I like it so I'm sorry what was the question can you repeat it we're just talking about the next year like do you have any goals you'd like to see happen yeah I mean like the others have said I think what's going on in the apps project is really important and I think a lot of people don't even appreciate how fundamentally important it is to the future of wiki tree you know we are keeping this organization like what is the wiki tree team here is intentionally very small and that's the way it's meant to be so that it's about the community so that it really is a community website and community members have a lot of say over the direction it takes and what the right choices to be made are made and so what's going on with the apps project and Jamie has been doing a great job coordinating on this making sure wiki tree is like a solid foundation and so we're making some changes right now doing some infrastructure things that will even move us further in that direction we've got some design changes we have to upgrade a little bit update the site just a little bit but we're going to try to make those really conservative so they're not disruptive and again just like move wiki tree more towards being just like a solid foundation on which the community builds nice I like it you're 16 it's going to be a good one I'm fat are you fat? I don't know what happened I can hear you it was very frustrating wait go ahead end of year or not end of year but in the future you hit it right on the nail on the head Alen I'd really like to see more people get involved with our mentoring project we have a really robust team of people out there that are working very hard to educate members who maybe came in and didn't realize what they signed up for or new to genealogy and just need to learn how to find and add sources to the information they provide the whole problems with members process is a problem resolution process it's unique to wiki tree I don't think you'll find anything like it anywhere else and I would love to see more people get involved on the mentoring and that can help other wiki tree members be successful very good well do any of you have anything you want to add before I kind of wrap this up yeah I'll add a bit I just want to thank the community the communities what it's all about and those watching here and those who aren't watching without the active ones of those look they do most of the work for us in many ways answering questions I always refer people to them I usually follow up and see what they help they get and I'm just amazed at the accuracy and depth of the average wiki tree answers so thank you to all of you who are watching and those who can't hear me I still give thanks to you nope excellent point good note to end on totally agree so I just wanted to share this screen really quick here we have a lot of stuff going on today so I want to make sure you know about it you can see there's kind of three streams going today when we have the main stage there's a lot of different stuff happening there today we have some games there's if you're a brand new member I suggest that you check out the new member CUNY with Betsy you will definitely learn a lot about how to get started there Julie and Azure and I are doing the ABCs of wiki tree so you might learn about some things on wiki tree that you didn't know about before at 115 please come and celebrate with us we're doing our 15th anniversary toast so be here and you can join in with us at 2 Eastern which I think is 7 UTC we're having a genealogy and artificial intelligence panel we've got six guests that are coming to talk that should be really interesting if you're at all into the artificial intelligence after that we're doing the cookbook reveal so Azure and Betsy are going to share some of the neat stuff that's in there Greg Clark is going to do a talk about genealogy and mathematics if you've been around for our 15 nations global tour this year every three weeks we hit a different country and really focused on trying to amp up their presence on wiki tree so David is going to do a wrap up of that and then at 8pm Eastern 1am UTC Greg Clark we all know he loves the statistics so he's going to share some wiki tree stats and then we'll wrap up wiki tree day but there's also this project stream many of our projects have put together some really great presentations about their project so if you've ever been interested in learning about any of those please tune in to watch them and then if you're into the apps and extensions this third stream there's a lot of different presentations on different apps and on the wiki tree browser extension there is a wrap up of Hacktoberfest all kinds of good stuff going on today a little bit of everything something for everybody so yeah and these these videos will be up forever so if you don't feel pressure, if you can't watch it today you can always watch it later so they'll still be up on our YouTube channel so I just wanted to make sure that everybody knew what was going on today and otherwise I just say happy wiki tree day happy anniversary thanks everybody


And good afternoon. Thank you for coming. I'm Christopher Sherwood, OSD Public Affairs. Today's briefing is on the Department of Defense's fiscal year 2025 budget request. Speaking with you today are Under Secretary of Defense Comptroller, Chief Financial Officer Michael J. McCord, and Director for Structure Resources Assessment with the Joint Staff Vice Admiral Sarah A. Joyner. They will provide opening remarks and take a few questions. Attribution is on the record. Prior to asking your question, please state your name and affiliation. Please limit your questions to one in one follow-up. I will let you know when we're nearing the end and we have time for one last question with that. It's my pleasure to introduce the Honorable Mike McCord and Vice Admiral Sarah Joyner. Thank you very much, Chris. Thank you all for being here today. Vice Admiral, join our eyes. Chris, that are going to give you an overview of the budget request, and then we're happy to take some questions. I want to start by thanking Admiral Joyner and the whole Joint Staff team from the Deputy Secretary, the Vice Chairman on Down. We have ourselves and Cape Joint Staff try and bring that corporate overview to everything that we do to help us through this very robust process it takes to build a budget where you kind of hear some of the problems from the bottom up. You bring the strategy from the Secretary at the top down. You try and make sure everyone's heard the co-coms and the components as well to make sure that we get this to be the best product that we can be. So I want to thank everyone that was involved in building this budget. Only two of us get to sit here and sort of present it, but it was the work of many people. With that, let me turn to the first slide, which I can see is already up. Very good. The strategy is the same strategy as you know that the Secretary put out in late 2022. This is the third budget fully informed by that strategy. You'll see a lot of continuity in this budget, therefore. Continuity of strategy, of priorities, of programs, of funding levels. There's going to be more that you expect than surprises you, I believe, in this budget as you get a chance to go through it. The flow of this briefing is also somewhat similar to last year, help you kind of compare from last year to this year. So with that, I won't belabor the strategy again that there is nothing new on that front. So let's get to the numbers real quickly. Again, big picture wise, this should not be a surprise to you because the top line was agreed to in June of 2023. So not quite a year ago, but several nine months ago in the fiscal responsibility act. So we marked that top line. Again, everybody should have been expecting that. I think probably was expecting that. This chart as you will see, we do not have anything filled in in FY25 for supplemental. There is no supplemental attached to this budget. We of course are very interested in getting Congress to get across the finish line, the supplemental that was sent last October that is still on the plate there. The Senate passed a very good bill. We need Congress to act as a whole on that. I can speak to that more in Q&A. I won't go too long on supplemental because it is technically not part of this budget other than to say it is essential that we get action on that. We as the United States extended our hand of friendship and support to Ukraine when they were attacked and we should not be withdrawing that support now. We do need that supplemental. Everything else in here again tracks very closely with last year supplemental or I'm sorry the fiscal responsibility act. Top line is as you know about a 1% increase over last year's level which is less than the rate of inflation as everybody I'm sure knew at the time when they set the top line. So we do not have positive real growth in this budget but again that was as intended by our elected officials who agreed on the top line last year. Okay with that let me just make one brief commercial about to reinforce what the Deputy Secretary just said about the insidious kind of nature of continuing resolutions. I came up with this chart to kind of portray it in a different way. Some of you have heard me talk about this before. I do get tired of complaining about it but unfortunately the problem persists. We have been in a continuing resolution or CR where we're not able to make positive steps forward but can only keep doing what we were doing last time for now approaching 1800 days as of March 22nd when we get to the end of this current CR. 1800 days out of the last 15 years so it's an average of about five years or out of 15 one-third of the time we have been stuck in neutral rather than moving forward. That is a dysfunctional harmful unhealthy pattern that really needs to stop and I know it is not that our appropriations committees are unable or unwilling to write a bill or that there are necessarily anything specific to defense that is causing a lot of these delays. There is sort of the larger difficulty of getting deals in Washington that has proven time and again to be just driving a lot of slow behavior. I think the Deputy Secretary just alluded to certainty, having your funding in a timely manner is as important as having more funding. Years ago I know former Chairman Dempsey spoke about this, about having some certainty is just as important as getting more money six months late. In this case the fiscal responsibility act was supposed to provide some certainty so far that it hasn't panned out and getting 24 done faster. We do hope that that will be the case for 25. Flipping to the next chart if we could, this just shows you kind of where the top line has been under the four budgets that this administration has submitted. Reading from top to bottom, FY22 being the light blue one. The green one, FY23 the first one fully informed by our strategy was a pretty healthy increase once we got the strategy underpinning of what we were trying to do. Another increase last year and then in 24. This year's budget which is the red line I know it can be hard to see from maybe from where you're sitting. Very much tracks last year's which is the blue line, the dark blue line at the top except for the one year hit in FY25 which is the fiscal responsibility act. That's about $10 billion or a little over 1% decrement to what we had planned. Deputy Secretary Hicks spoke about the importance of getting back on track. That's what our plan does. It gets back on track in 26, 27, 28 to what we had said before. So we do need to get back to more positive growth but we understand and as I said submitted out the law for this year. Let me now turn to the next chart which is on our end strength. Most of the other charts, probably all of the other charts in this briefing are about money. There's implicitly dollar signs in front of them but before we do all that just talk for a second about the most important part of what we have here. Which is our people which is not just our quantity which is on this chart but their quality and their skills are really what makes this department go. Our end strength as you can see again this one probably you need to have it up close and personal to see all the details on this chart. It is a very slight decrease about 0.6% total force structure, total strength less than where we project to end this year six months from now. So this is a projection for a year and a half from now, minor change from this year. Probably many of you who cover this know that we have had some recruiting challenges but strong retention so a bit of a mixed picture on the manning side over the last couple of years. Continues to be the lowest unemployment rate in history at the all volunteer force that is over 50 years. Two years in a row 22, 23 lowest unemployment rates we've had. I think most people know that that creates a bit of a challenge because the people you're trying to recruit the talent you're trying to get in have so many opportunities to do other things. And so that's not a bad problem to have but it is a problem that we have in the Defense Department as we're competing for talent and trying to do that with unemployment being as low as it is. So with that I think it's time for me to turn to Admiral Joyner to talk about some of the particular capability areas that really make up the bulk of what we look at when we go through our review the different parts of integrated deterrence and military power. Good afternoon and thank you Mr. McCord. I wanted to say up front that in the face of increasingly complex security challenges across the globe and competing demands in our nation our Uniform Service members appreciate the hard work and support of the Department's leadership and Congress in these unprecedented times. The FY25 budget request reflects our efforts to balance the Department's priorities under a top-line constraint to maintain a ready, lethal, and combat credible joint force. You will see those priorities reflected in the investment slides that follow. This year our air power request focuses on advanced fighter and mobility platforms and makes prudent revisions to our future aviation programs to ensure that we appropriately pace our competitors. Next the request increases the capacity and capability of our maritime forces ensuring the Navy remains a relevant deterrent while also increasing and optimizing our industrial base. The budget request also provides the troops on the ground with improved firepower, maneuver, and command and control. These investments directly support Marine Corps and Army modernization efforts ensuring they remain dominant on land. Our investment in platforms and systems across these domains increases the lethality of our joint force and enhances our ability to deter threats while we adapt to the future. Today's nuclear enterprise is safe, secure, effective, and credible, and all three legs of the triad are ready to be called upon. However, all three legs of the triad are undergoing a generational modernization effort. The FY25 budget request makes a significant investment in the nuclear enterprise as an essential component of integrated deterrence to ensure its continued efficacy. This budget increases funding for Columbia class ballistic missile submarines through the submarine industrial base as well as a ramp up in advanced procurement funding to support a planned procurement of one submarine per year beginning in FY26. The request continues development and procurement of the B-21 program and supports key modernization efforts for the B-52. It also revitalizes several S&T efforts focused on evolving threats. This budget seeks to modernize NC3 senior leader communications required to maintain continuity of operations in times of crisis. And though the Sentinel program is currently undergoing a non-McCurdy certification, it is fully funded in the FY25 request. Finally, the FY25 budget expands the nation's defensive posture with additional investments and enhancements to missile defense capabilities. These critical programs defend the homeland, deployed forces and allies and partners against increasingly complex threats, particularly from China and Russia. Long-range fires is an important component of our modernization effort. Hypersonic weapons and other long-range missiles provide offensive capabilities to hold adversary targets at risk while reducing risk to U.S. forces and equipment. The department is requesting nearly $10 billion in PB-25 to continue developing air, sea and ground-launched weapons to provide flexibility and impose operational, technical and fiscal challenges on potential adversaries. This substantial investment is over 39% more than our last enacted budget, FY23 of $7.2 billion. Building on several recent successes, this budget procures a lethal and survivable mix of network long-range weapons and maximizes procurement of critical maritime strike capabilities that directly address the priority national security challenges. These investments will grow the department's advance offensive fires capability and field operational, multi-domain, hypersonic capabilities beginning in the mid-2020s to achieve maximum deterrent threat against a peer adversary. Our adversaries continue to field weapons that could deny or destroy our space capabilities, a critical component of the U.S. power projection. To meet these potential threats, the department is investing in resilient and combat credible space capabilities that enhance lethality and the effectiveness of our joint force. We've made significant investments in previous budgets to ensure we can provide reliable space support in competition or conflict. We are now focused on ensuring those systems remain funded and deliver as planned. The request continues the path of those previous budgets and invests in resilient capabilities with the goal of denying first-mover advantage to any potential adversaries. Our budget also includes funding for essential position, navigation and timing modernization and invest in the development of protected satellite communications and targeting systems that can operate in contested environments. Finally, the budget request maintains an active eye on increasing competition for space by procuring launch vehicles that provide assured access along with funds for modernizing our infrastructure. The FY 2025 cyber activities budget focuses modest investments into three portfolios covering cybersecurity, cyberspace operations and cyber research and development activities. The cybersecurity budget request improves our cyber posture by funding development and modernization in cybersecurity tools and capabilities. It also expands investment and zero trust technology to ensure the department can fully secure and protect its data. Similarly, the cyberspace operations request increases cyber mission force team training and readiness, increases ally and partner outreach via hunt forward activities, and improves capabilities, access and infrastructures. In recognition of the rapidly adaptive nature of cyber, the R&D request focuses on emerging cyber prototypes and development and AI and machine learning enabled capabilities and technologies. Cyber capabilities will continue to be a crucial component of our national defense and accordingly a top priority within our budget. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has charged the joint force to be ready to fight today's battles but also prepare for tomorrow's wars. But we cannot just focus on modernization at the risk of today's operations. The Secretary of Defense has made it clear through a deliberate effort reflected in this request to preserve the gains we have made in resourcing readiness. The highlights of these efforts are reflected on this slide. The FY 25 budget invests more than ever to ensure our joint force is ready to respond to any strategic challenge. As mentioned, the budget was purposely designed to prioritize the near term war fighting capability and readiness efforts displayed while sustaining ongoing modernization efforts. Overall, the department's strategic readiness effort framework keeps our eyes on multiple horizons so that we can counter near term threats and meet the challenges we expect to face in long term strategic competition or high end conflict. And I'll now turn it back over to Mr. McCour to discuss further budget priorities. Thank you Admiral. Next chart we have is on, and just to step back, hopefully you'll all remember that the strategy is kind of described in three areas. Integrated deterrence which Admiral Joiner discussed in some of the modernization programs, campaigning which has two aspects, the readiness and the building readiness of the force. Day-to-day, month-to-month that she just described, and then the campaigning part which is the more deliberate use of our presence and our exercises and our activity to achieve planned outcomes. So on the campaigning side, the two things that people think of most are what are we doing in the Indo-Pacific, what are we doing in Europe, and there are particular descriptors, boxes if you will, that Congress has set up or the previous administration set up called Pacific Deterrence Initiative, European Deterrence Initiative. As you know, neither of these are particularly descriptive of everything that we do in these theaters or especially of the forces that can be flowed by the secretary between theaters. But these are lenses that the committees have asked us to use. And so we're showing you here what we have on both of those, 9.9 billion on Pacific Deterrence and about 4 billion, 4.2 billion on European Deterrence. On Pacific Deterrence, probably the biggest new news which I believe the Deputy Secretary just alluded to was that we now have funding in to follow in on or fall in on the NDAA authorization of drawdown for Taiwan. We now have 500 million in this budget to put funding against that. Possibly, you know, would have liked to have done a little more, but this being a capped year, we thought that was a good way to start against the billion dollar a year ceiling in the authorization. On Europe again, as you know, the big issue is the supplemental that is pending before Congress, not the more stable, much smaller part that has been the European Deterrence. Okay, with that, let me turn to the next slide and sort of the last leg of the strategy. Again, just to refresh, I'm sure you all know this, is building enduring advantages refers to having a healthy institution that has good practices and quality that can sustain itself. That refers both to the force itself, particularly the people in uniform and their families, but also the entire force, military and civilian. And then the industrial base that we work with to deliver capability. So taking the people side first. First leg of this paying compensation, not everything, but an important thing. The budget has this year a four and a half percent pay raise. Those of you who are familiar with the formula that drives that, that is consistent with the law, it is nothing, you know, nothing out of the ordinary there. But in the last three years now, we had last year, as many of you remember, the largest pay raise in 20 years. Combined across the last three years, that's now up to 15% pay raise for the troops in addition to very substantial increases in housing allowances and subsistence allowances just on the basic pay that everybody gets up 15% over three years. On the military, on the civilian side, the pay raise is 2%. That I think is fair to say that's an administration-wide decision that is not made here in the department because all civilians are treated equally across federal agencies in that respect. I do think it's fair to assume that the pressure of the fiscal responsibility at CAP, which hits every cabinet agency, was a factor in the thinking about why the civilian pay raise could be less this time than what the military pay raise is. But even so, civilian pay raise will be 12.2% across the last three years in this budget. Other compensation thing I just want to highlight is that for a couple years now, the authorization bill has promoted a concept that became to be defined as basic needs allowance, looking at the kind of the particular needs of perhaps a more economically pressed part of the department, including those with families. Congress has taken action a couple years in a row to revisit this issue. It's kind of stabilizing now, but we are proposing in this budget to go from 150% of poverty level as the income threshold to qualify for this allowance to opening the door a little bit more to 200%. We think that's a positive step that I hope will favor with the committees when they see it. So those are kind of the two big highlights on the compensation side. On the next slide, flip side of taking care of people beyond paying compensation, all the things you do to take care of the health of your force, providing childcare, looking after issues like suicide prevention, sexual assault prevention. Here we have, we continue to implement initiatives that are high priorities of the Secretary and other military and civilian leaders across this department. This is not news probably to any of you, but we are continuing to build out, especially on the sexual assault prevention, the historic NDAA provisions from a couple years ago to now hire the people up and build the structure to make it actually real. So again, not new initiatives so much as continuing to build out what was already laid in on that front. Now, the second part of building enduring advantages, as I said, refers to kind of the industrial base and to the way that we deliver technology. In my view, that's probably within the overall frame that I had that there is a lot of continuity in this budget, a lot of continuity of priorities and approaches. Probably the biggest area I would say of new emphasis from both the Deputy Secretary and the Vice Chairman is on innovation and agility.  So you won't see necessarily giant dollars on a number of these things, but the emphasis is important. Many of you have heard the Deputy Secretary talk about the Raider Rapid Defense Program to get experimentation results faster into operationalizing them, if you will. And something you may not be familiar with, Office of Strategic Capital is a Secretary of Defense priority where we have needed congressional action to give us authorities that we did not possess as a Defense Department to make loans to have an interaction with smaller vendors that might need that to get to do business with us. We got step one in the NDAA that was enacted in December with authorities. If the Appropriations Bill can get across the finish line with funding to put against those authorities in the next two weeks, we will be up and running. But we've already got a good leg up in the NDA to get the authorities that we did not have. So that's one example. Raider is another. And then on the next slide, I believe I heard the Deputy Secretary already talk about the Replicator Initiative, which is yet another. Again, the impact is we hope will be outsized to the dollar amount, which is not the point here, but the idea of imposing costs on the adversary in a more effective way than we sometimes are able to by getting more things fielded more quickly. Next thing on Industrial Base, two more aspects. You've heard us, again, this is an area of continuity. Last couple of years, we talked about some key technologies, microelectronics, casting and forging, critical materials. Those have been in remain emphasis of Industrial Base. We now have an Industrial Base strategy, which probably many of you are familiar with that came out, I want to say a month or a little more ago. I've probably lost track of time exactly, but a fairly new Industrial Base strategy, some continuing particular investments. And then, Summary and Industrial Base, you have heard us and we'll hear us talk a lot about it as a particularly important and impactful Industrial Base. And then on the next slide, if I can kind of segue into that a little bit, Munitions Industrial Base, which was probably the biggest message we had in last year's budget that we were proposing multi-years on missiles and munitions in a space that hadn't had that before. We are still waiting, unfortunately, it's now a year since we submitted that budget at 52 weeks right now, and we are hopeful to get that across the line soon. We don't have the funding or the authority to do those multi-years. So, you know, sad to say we've lost months that we could have been moving out on that. The other part of helping the munitions in Industrial Base, which I know you all are familiar with, particularly on ground munitions, on a subset of munitions, is Ukraine's supplementals. We have provided a lot to Ukraine. We need the funding to come back in to replenish those inventories. The proposal we had last year in the spring between the multi-years and last fall in the supplemental was kind of a 1-2 boost to that Industrial Base, and we don't have either of those things finalized yet. So that's a hindrance to where we would want it to be at this time, but there is still an ability to get moving in the right direction if we can get those two pieces across the line hopefully at the same time in two weeks. There are no new multi-years in this budget. We don't have any other ones from last year started. It seemed a little unrealistic to jump into new ones, given where we actually are. I'll go quickly over the last couple slides here. The next slide is on sort of the business side of the health of the institution, including but not limited to audit and many other performance improvement areas. I believe that our DOD Strategic Management Plan is also being posted today by a different office, possibly through our same link on our website. Not my office isn't the owner of that, but there's more detail on any number of management priorities in another document that you should see today. Final area that I want to hit is on the installation side. As many of you know, we did finally get our FY24 military construction family housing funding approved signed by the President on Saturday. So as I like to say, that's 2% of our top line down, only 98% to go in the defensive appropriations bill coming. You've got to start somewhere. But we do appreciate that, and we do have a continued emphasis on both the quality of life and the mission side and speaking of submarine industrial base, in addition to investing in the industrial base through the acquisition accounts and the operating accounts where we're dealing, what we're talking about workforce, talking about the supply chain, then we've got the infrastructure side. Many of you know we're now in, I think, the third year of the so-called SIOP, the 20-year Navy Shipyard Investment Plan. I'm sorry, in the four public yards. Again, a big investment in that this year. The infrastructure leg of the submarine industrial base, or submarine maintenance industrial base in this case, in addition to family housing and barracks, which are an important part of what we're doing here, and hopefully expanded, if we can get this approved, expanded investments in Indo-Pacific infrastructure, which is part of our whole war fighting plan and operational plan for that theater. So without, I think we're ready to take your questions. Again, the strategy here and the framework, the funding levels, there should be a lot that is kind of, what you would have expected based on the top line that we're set and on the direction that we have followed pretty consistently, I want to say, over the last couple of years. Okay. We'll start with Mike Stone. Hi, Mike Stone from Reuters. You mentioned replicator if the Secretary said that there was about 500 for replicator, but there's no line item in the budget. So is that going to come from reprogramming or how is that going to be, how is that 500 going to be found? And for the admiral, there's a lot of activity, particularly by the Navy right now. When do you expect a supplemental for that activity? Let's use OCO as the example, so previous example, and how big do you expect the supplemental to be? Thank you. Okay. On replicator, reprogramming is a possible solution in FY24, the year that we're halfway through. Should not be necessary in 25 because we're proposing in the budget. Our first hope for FY24 and the deputy has personally engaged with the committees on this is that they will work with us to put some funding in the appropriations conference that we hope to see in two weeks and therefore reprogramming would be moot because the funding would be done in that bill. So step one is to see were they able to get that in there and is the bill able to get to the president's desk. And then if it is not, then reprogramming will have to be the approach. If I can sort of, I know she's going to arm wrestle me on this supplement. If you're referring to operations in STCOM, for example, to the Navy's undertaking, the quickest way home, I'm going to sound like a broken record on some of these issues, perhaps the quickest way home for us to get help there is the supplemental senate already passed, which had two and a half billion dollars in their 2.4 to be precise for central command area of responsibility response cost. And that could be operating costs, which the Navy is bearing the brunt of but not all of. In addition, it could be replacement costs replacements of munitions that have been fired. All of those were eligible recipients of the extra funding that the senate added. That was an opportunity for us to work with them by the way where the committees asked us after we submitted a supplemental in early October or mid October, I'm sorry, shortly after the Hamas attack on Israel, we did not have any of those costs projected in there. We had absolutely no data in the first two weeks for which to do that. But over, unfortunately, the supplemental didn't get acted on quickly. And so here we are months later that we've had time to communicate with the committees on some of those costs. And the result of that was the senate adding funding in for that. So that would be a big help to us if we could get that across the line. That would give us a real opportunity to get started on replenishing either stockpiles or operating costs. The army, of course, has the same issue in Yukon, Army and the Air Force, all services. But the army has borne more of the brunt in Europe than Navy, more so in SENTCOM. But either way, the supplemental is the quickest way home to addressing costs that we have been incurring every day since October 1st that needs some way to be absorbed or funded. Tony Capasio. A couple of questions. On the procurement budget, it was $167 million versus $175 that was projected last year. The Virginia class and the F-35 were reduced. Can you address both of those? Were those strictly budget driven because that's where the money was? Or was the Virginia class's delivery schedule and the F-35's TR3 software problems? Were those drivers? And for the admiral, any specifics on where the J-ROC focused investments this time? I asked Admiral Grady and he gave a broad answer, but you're the point-specific budgeteer, so I'd ask you. Okay, on procurement writ large, you're correct. The procurement, if you look at last year's plan compared to where we ended up and where is the single place where the most of that $10 billion reduction occurred, it was in procurement. Hopefully the Secretary or the overall DOD press release is available right now. There's a very direct quote right in there where the Secretary addresses his guidance that we prioritized readiness and taking care of our people and where we had to take some additional risk to take it in the acquisition of newer technologies. So that is reflected in the procurement number tracks with a statement which hopefully you've seen, but if you haven't seen it, it should be filtering its way out any minute here. On Virginia class was not a budget during the decision. Every decision that we make obviously only happens once in a budget that has a particular top line, but that's not the same as saying that every decision in this $850 billion budget was about how to take the $10 billion. In Virginia class is probably the primary example of something that was a management decision. The Navy proposed that got considerable discussion inside the group and I think we all felt that it made sense. I believe the boats that are delivering or supposed to deliver this year are averaging over 30 months late and we have more than a dozen on order that are still in production already. So the question was really what can we do to get a better result other than keep doing the same thing and hoping for a different result than what has happened the last couple of years. So we've already had some beginnings of submarine industrial base investments. It was a priority in last year's budget, which again, we don't have that money yet, so that's a problem. But you look at last year's budget, this year's budget, and the AUKUS so-called supplemental, there's a big investment in sort of three parts in the sub-industrial base that we think is going to be money better spent than putting another submarine on order that all analysis indicates we can't get two submarines if we order them in 25 any sooner than if we wait. F-35, as you alluded to, has some issues with its a little behind schedule where we would like it to be in delivering technology. Therefore, it made sense to look at whether or not a ramp, the ramp, could be adjusted. But I will say that when people get to look through this budget, they will see fourth gen, fifth gen, and sixth gen all had some reductions in investment. It's not just that one program. And again, it's easy to assume that maybe every program decision was related to the top line. That's not the case. So there are reasons why based on technologies readiness, changes in behavior by your adversaries or your allies, or all kinds of management decisions might feed into why you relatively change priorities. But again, thank you for the question because Virginia class, to be clear, was trying to sort of get to a better and more healthy dynamic where we can get to the two-submarine-a-year production rate. And we thought that going a different direction was our best move in that case. Thank you. Could you talk a little bit about my boss absolutely got it right? It is the JROC is a top-down process. That's really where we focus. We still get the bottom up from the services. The top-down process is really focused on key gaps and capabilities. We're looking for end-to-end kill chain types of capabilities as we move forward. We don't use funding, but we do use requirements. So we're setting the requirements overall. And I think they would be very familiar with you. They would be in the CJADC-2 long-range fires, the nuclear deterrence areas, I think in missile defense, I think are some of the biggest buckets. But part of what we focused on this year, both for the budget side and the JROC side, is really delivering and understanding those end-to-end capabilities and finding those gaps from the top-down. So that's what he's really focused the JROC as the chairman of the JROC. But with the members, they've really focused on getting those end-to-end capabilities, setting those requirements, and identifying those areas where we need to focus more attention. Thank you. Can you tell us a little bit about the inflation challenge in this budget, how it's changed over the year? You mentioned that it doesn't keep face with the rate of inflation. So do you have a figure for the lost buying power of the department suffering as a result of inflation? And what does the department say inflation is right now? Is it a complex sort of formula you all use for it? Yeah, the inflation rate, I will ask my team to correct me if I'm wrong. I think that the inflation rate built into the budget from 24 to 25 is 2.1% for their amounts. So it is more than 1%. As again, I think everybody reasonably expected when they set the top line. Pay has come in at a healthy number again because of the formulas and law which we followed on the military side. We restrained civilian, you know, the administration restrained civilian pay raises to kind of help keep us our costs under control that way. Overall, this is a bit healthier picture, of course, than we had. Inflation when we were here a year ago was considerably higher, and you've seen it come down the numbers that come out every month. The 12-month moving averages are now starting with three, and all the forecasts are moving in the direction of us having gotten through this situation. With the software landing, then probably many of us would have expected, which is very welcome news given that economic strength of the economy is important to us. So as I said, unemployment has remained low, which gives us our own little challenge on recruiting perhaps, but it's a good thing for the country. Inflation coming back down at the same time is overall a good news story. We are the recipients of that. We don't manage inflation ourselves that way, and we do use the inflation rates that are consistent across the government. So it is coming down. Our forecast, I think, is probably not out of line with others, and so it's important that it stay on track and keep decreasing, and that will help us be in better shape. Thank you. I have time for one or two more questions. Sam. Hi. I'm Sam McGrone from US9 News. You talked a little bit about the Virginia class program and how those boats are slipping, and then the importance of the strategic weapons systems. Any, sorry, any parallel slippage maybe in the Columbia class or anything that you all are concerned about as that program continues? I've noticed that that build rate seems pretty consistent. I would say I'm not the expert here. The Columbia, of course, the industrial base is a shared one, right? The skill set of building nuclear submarines, and so the Virginia class doesn't stand entirely by itself in terms of that pressurization. I think the Navy right now, if I understand it right, is doing a, I want to say, 45-day, I may have that number wrong, review of shipbuilding. Secretary Del Toro is concerned about schedule writ large, and I think that's being looked at right now. We believe, as I think the Admiral said, that the program is fully funded, but the Navy who's following may or may not be able to say anything more later this afternoon when they're here about the schedule on that particularly. I think it is being looked at right now in a Navy review. Okay. Thank you both so much for doing this. Two separate lines of questions on artificial intelligence. I noticed that the top line for AI requested in 25 is 1.8 billion, which is the same that was requested in 24. AI adoption seems like a top priority for the department, particularly now. Can you talk a little bit about why it appears to be flat lined and the reason for that? And then separately, AI is a broad term that refers to many things, and a lot of your sort of programs and portfolios have AI elements like CJAD C2, replicator, et cetera. So that AI top line, what all does that encompass, that 1.8 billion? Is it all the services and the CDAO and everything, or how are you thinking of what AI in that top line is? Thanks. I think that this one probably merits us getting you a little one-pager. I do believe that basically my answer to your first question would be your second, it was the premise of your second question that it is in so many things that it is difficult to measure precisely. That being said, if we put a number on a piece of paper, then we should be able to get you some more details of how we got it. But I do think that it is much as when I was here in this job the first time cyber started the same way of, you know, what is cyber, what is not cyber. It's a little hard to put your arms around it, and therefore the number is not really necessarily reflective of the impact of it and the fact that it's in so many places. So we will get you a paper that takes our best stab at how we got that number, but that's probably the best I can do. One quick follow-up on replicator. You said that it's going to be included, it's included in the F-25. Can you where exactly is that? Because I understand it's not in the Air Force requests. At this time we have, as we finish this off, this was one of the later programs to bring to a close in building this budget. There was a debate which I think is maybe, at the time things went to press certainly, was not settled about the so-called reveal, conceal, how much detail we wanted to put out. And given that if I cross the bridge into putting everything out I can't go back, we're sort of leaning on the side of not disclosing the details until we are confident that that's what the Deputy Secretary wants to do. So I know that she mentioned an overall number. I don't believe that we're in position yet to put out details of which programs in which service that we're doing and the discussions that she had with the committees were all done at a classified level of what particular replicator initiatives were. So we're trying to protect her decision space on that. So it's classified at this time that it is, the conversation will continue both internally and with the committees and so that might change. But at this time, as I said, my incentive is to air if I'm airing on the side of not revealing it too soon. Okay, I see. And then a second question. I saw in the Army budget that prism by has increased. I'm wondering at what point does the Army start accepting that missile and does that free up our attack arms that we could then potentially send to Ukraine? I know Under Secretary Kammery will be out soon and he probably has more detail on that. But I would say similar to what comments I've made on a couple of programs here of we had a munitions request that we made a year ago that we still don't have. So the time that they'll be able to implement the FY25 budget on prison partly depends on what is the FY25 budget going to get enacted this fall, maybe before the elections or not till a year from now. I mean, that's a big swing of months that we have seen. We've seen different results. There are times when Congress makes a push before presidential election to get a budget done in September. That's sadly the exception. So if we get one of those, the Army will gain a couple of months right there. But beyond that, I would say the Army when they come out here will probably be able to speak to that particular program management issues better than I could for sure. But you're saying that that procurement won't start until we get the budget? Well, I'm saying the FY25 budget, you know, here we are waiting for the budget we submitted a year ago that, you know, how fast we get stuff, it's not, it's quite relevant to how soon we can actually get going on contract. Thank you all for your time. That's all we have time for. Thank you.