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Hey man. Listen man. We back man. We fresh back from Chicago, man We we here and what better way to start the day than to bring over my guy Carl Crawford is in the building 1501 is in the building stop playing and he got a special guest today look CEO, right? Lucy oh man. What's going on? Man, it's good. I'm just glad to have you man. I'm gonna get all in your business now. I'm gonna get in your bed I promise you I'm gonna figure out for the end of this. What we how long we got with them have a long call at them state Oh Man, we are up in a play game all night long man. Hey listen, man Thank you for coming back on the show called man, you know, I'll be watching your movie man I love everything you do. I'm a big supporter of 1501. Everybody know it, you know I'm saying I make sure they know it when I whenever I'm talking to everybody Wherever I'm at I'm be like man if you go come to Texas You got to check in with Carl Crawford. That's the new thing man That's the new label. You really don't have a lot of no labels really when you come to Texas itself for the original ones You know like rap a lot, right? How is it man? Just Adjusting in these days and time. How do you keep going? I? Think I keep going cuz I just genuinely have a passion for What I'm doing, you know, I'm saying that's the only way you can want to keep going in this business Cuz uh, you know, you get so many things wrong that you but uh, you know I just have a passion that want to help others my my passion to help others to see others do well Outweigh the best of the happens to me man. I've been seeing like I remember one day. I asked y'all called y'all It really was frustrating to me. I was like man Carl. How you why you do this? You know Man, it's like something at me that just want to keep doing it You know said people thought in the beginning all this low hobby Has and this so he want to try to look like a G look cool out the baseball, you know But it ain't that you know, I'm saying it's just I want to apply myself in the area to where I could help others And you know because somebody helped me early on in my life And I just want to always be that person who can like help others do well and reach Whatever it is. They try to reach out man, and I noticed that you just always have Tried to reach out to talent right tried to figure it out with talent a lot of times I I seen some times where I feel like it was difficult time because you're trying to bring people up Right, and a lot of time we try to bring people up in a bring them on the label They expect so much out of you. They already think they have arrived because You'll be surprised what uh, you know what uh, you know a different set of well a different Place of living and and a chain What I think you should do you need to have a counselor Yeah, when you sign you have to do this many hours with his counselor first cuz they'll help them to really Process this move. That's kind of like what we doing now. Like we started this all the development program Right. Yeah, I mean, you know, okay now It's not you don't get to change early on soon as you get there People will be like yo you need to give him a chain and I'll be like man.  So like I mean the moment they snap the buckle up in the back and It's over you don't know. I'm no more is it and it's amazing cuz change out me I don't want to stay out what you're out of town You know what a funny thing that reminds me of when you're saying that right no It reminds me of a lot of men who said man as soon as these women signed the paper Everything changes. I don't know all I know It's it's it's amazing How a person can be this person and then all of a sudden they that person But you know at the end of the day, I've kind of gone used to it And so now I've known to make a few adjustments that I've made up to this point You know, we've been working with a little CEO and you see in his progress Yeah, yeah, I love him got no chain on yet Not everybody loving them. Yeah, but we'll he do get it. I'm gonna make sure that he stay I think man listen man You you show him Everything that some of these people hadn't even ever left their community, right?  I ain't never been to Cali ain't never been in North Carolina I ain't never been to Jamaica.  How long have you been doing artist development right now? She's since August like they have picked me up right before I start school. Mm-hmm. I cope that if I start school Okay, so what have you learned in artist development? I Learned it like it's a process It really a process cuz I thought I had everything figured out Until like I'll try to do stuff my way and they won't work in it They had to tell me like just let us take control and now I'm learning still say anything Wow I'm telling you right now. I can't wait to see how you erupt here in a little bit and people get on there You're that famous to get you me too. Yeah Like him he really like you know kind of like a little mature amongst his ears You know far as I've been a senior so got a good work ethic and uh, you know I'm saying takes Get you know and sports we had this term called coachable. Yeah. Yeah, like you got that tag on you That's like the best thing you know I'm saying that's kind of like what he is like we could tell him something and like Like he'll do it. You know I'm saying he don't forget You know I'm talking about even in the midst of working in the shooting videos He remember the little stuff that we told him he able to apply like like after just one time of telling him You know his focus don't really get like We don't when his girls are on and stuff like that and all that kind of stuff that can distract you He he like for youngster. He's able to stay focused. You know, it's really kind of surprising and refreshing to see man But I want to ask you something man because I go back to the early days of making the style You're right and y'all was starting out and you know something. I just keep thinking about making the style, you're right when she first started You came in after she had gotten started or she she had she went viral She had a she went viral with the song that she had she had been you know working with her mom You know, I'm saying follow what you know grinding like how any artists will be doing And then you come into to the and I come in the plate You know I'm saying I slept the dollars on top of it That's what I want to say like like when you came in to play. What year was that? What year was that? That was like just guessing 2017 okay, and when did you when did you get out of the league? 2016 this one. I'm trying to get to that. See now pay my picture. Yeah, okay your stardom Was still real fresh when it come down to the league, right? People knew you were Carl Crawford that the guy that got the hundred million dollar contract with a hundred and forty million, right? People knew that right so when you and Megan link up That had to be an impact, okay? Oh, that was amazing. You see what I'm saying You know I'm saying everybody want to know who is this girl the car? You know is dealing with you know I'm saying what's going on? You know they could say they everybody knew them, but nobody nobody didn't knew me knew making the stall You know I'm saying exactly different world. Yeah, like nobody like zero people But that's why I brought that up because I'm looking at the time guidelines, right if you came out in to see 2016 right and then you met start working with her 2017 just a year you still they don't know if the nigga might go back to the league To go play with other teams.   Don't get it twisted But right it was not comparable to being a multi-millionaire that had just left the league Okay, let's be real for a second exactly and I noticed because I noticed because when I see certain Players even up to the day people who whether it be in it or whether it be it's just something about that Sport money y'all be coming out Making to the money, you know Athletes, you know, I'm saying I was watching what I was doing Whoever people you know sophisticated people around the city, you know Yeah, they saw me move this girl around early on and you know, they took notice and yes She had the viral moment, you know, I'm saying in that little arena right there But that was smile, but you know, I'm saying that was real smile. That wasn't really that Compared to what you know what I introduced him to you know exactly that's that's that's what I wanted to And since I'm on that just we I guess we could stay right there like I seen what Congratulations on What cuz that whole issue Oh Four-year battle, you know You know, it's unfortunate that you know, we had to do that because you know for me her t-fairs when we all sat out to do This we all still what we wanted to be he's working for he's being her little do-boy You know I'm saying and she's you know a big star and you know, I'm got the label going on So why did we have to go through all that just to get to this point? We still got you know, I said, but at the end of the day, I just wish that you know We didn't have to go through all this just to get to the same point We all was trying to get to anyway Did she like I think she posted that she was independent now something I think I seen that She was pretty much independent now. So that's good Like I said, I wish her the best, you know, I'm so like I've never always to this day You go watch my interviews always saved me and Megan never had a problem with each other Talk do y'all would y'all still talk on a good like a friendship. This is the business You got to continue to do business over here And it's how it goes like I learned so much now like this just how it goes I don't feel bad for myself. This happens to people like me in the music business exactly every single day You know what I'm saying?  I was a big Megan fan No, no, don't you get upset when she come out in the night? You know, I'm married. I'm in the room. I'm trying to stay keep my composure She walked through how you know, and I'm looking like dang, you know, it was a She's a lot of more a classier than sex irate them and this new thing we dealing with We got some new stuff But when Megan was classy enough, you know, we thought that was bad we thought Cardi B We thought uh, Nicki Minaj. I was like dang man. They look at man.  Because I've seen where you had like different events with all these young tiktokers and whatever and a lot of them are doing crazy stuff Yeah, you're looking to sign someone maybe even like that. I just I just have to go with what the coach is going with You know, I'm saying this I'm I can't be the person who's like police and stuff like that Because one thing about this music stuff like it's been like that sister fit. It was always something that parents didn't like Yeah, yeah, and you think they thought it was crazy. You know what I'm saying? And it just it just keeps going it keeps growing.  I'm serious and I was like me. I was like Tony man What up? I didn't get in the club And next thing you know, I just hit a whole club you thought he would play Okay, you know he on the radio DJ telling me about it early on because he always telling me about Other artists. Yeah, who you trying to break you wish that you had likes it. Okay. I'll listen. I mean, you know I'm saying I don't know how to take it.  You know, you you supported a lot of that was your main thing the women from Erica to Megan the stallion to a couple of other artists that I seen you really pressed forward on you knew that the women was a niche Right, you knew that that was a place where you know that the industry was going and now it's really, you know, you see it Yeah, I saw the way early, you know With what caught it be early on even before she for Bo that yellow came out Just putting her little projects out and I was like, oh, okay, you know, I'm saying eventually something's gonna happen right here I see you know, I'm saying it's like they they keep trying and when she hit, you know I'm saying I knew I was doing the same thing So I wasn't gonna be I knew I'm gonna be long before before we came with Megan and then so I see I see that Go I see Bo yeah, Bo that yellow gold and I see Megan the stallion come in I'm like, okay. Well, it's a wave, you know, so when they was telling me when the stuff happened with Megan it was like oh Don't look for another girl. I'm like you crazy. I'm about to go find another one now. And that's you know, Eric Banks come I could I could keep coming with a certain type of girl and you know, it was a good chance. It was gonna work Let me let me because when you think about like like the women that was articulating the styles Megan got a great flow. She really can rap, bro. Like and then you Nicki Minaj really can rap like She's gonna go in That's not all of them. I'm gonna be honest with you. She is she articulates Better than all of them when it comes to rap. Okay, but Megan the stallion ain't far behind I'm just gonna tell you the truth. She the first female you actually birth help birth the first female Rap artist out of Texas man. So kudos to you for doing that Ain't nobody else done that you can't never take that away from him Yep came taking away as much as they want to try to defame me in the whole process You know, I'm saying you'll never do it. Sorry T first. You're not you Okay, you gotta forgive everybody I won't never forget because you know I'm saying we was partners and it wasn't no need for you to do that to me You know, I'm saying you didn't switch side at the end of the day You left the boss chill to go be a runner. You see what I'm saying?  She was well got to the same destination Yeah, because we still would have connected with everybody, you know The whole thing was to just keep the unity together for the for the sake of Texas and to just show that You know, I'm saying it was a new label that other people can come out and just you know Megan was not supposed to be the only person You know, I'm saying we were supposed to keep doing this keep coming back home. I was on my Harry Tubman But uh But uh, you know, it just closed a lot of doors in that moment, you know, I'm saying we just did all that work The the bus it through, you know, my whole thing was the okay We got Megan going, you know, I'm saying we understood that I was never supposed to be with the artist Like I didn't I didn't want to be with them the whole time.  I understand now.  Yeah had we all stayed good, you know Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that's the power house right there But for whatever reason they didn't want me to be to face it. They didn't want me They they they they took that face card away from me. They didn't want me to have that and you know I'm always feel some type of way about that because I came out of baseball You know so I came with the money and stuff I didn't I didn't come here to like make y'all money. I came here to get an experience, you know I'm saying and T Ferris and Megan took that experience away from you.  I think you're doing a great job. Just swinging that batch deal You know, that's my son.  What do you think about people, you know When they when they seeded when you were doing what you was doing you actually When everything started to go haywire, right? You went and linked up with Jay Prince, right? Okay, what do you know and and we love Jay Prince? Jay Prince is a Pinnacle for the whole South not just our Texas, but just what do you think when people see that? Okay? He went to Jay, you know Why he didn't figure it out on his own what you know, what do you think about that because you know at that time You know she ran to Jay-Z, you know, yeah, I remember that so I'm You don't know the music You know, I'm saying I didn't know no lawyers the car, you know, I'm saying I'm not like that So I'm I'm like hey, I only knew one person a car, you know, I'm saying and I hit up Jay Like how was it when you first when you like man, hey, man, they over there. They believe on me We was we was so much shout out to my own song hero divine Steven, okay? Yeah, I remember you said that last time to my own son. He wrote cuz you know Had he not like tip warned you? Yeah warned me when he did They would have got away with just slipping the whole thing from up under me right under my nose And I they wouldn't have known nothing about it, but once I got that little warning and I was getting a little feelings from T Fairies, you know, how even you know, they was doing a little stuff wouldn't tell me times Well, I had to be certain places.  You could feel it, you know what I'm saying So, you know, I went back to jail. I'm like, you know, Jay something right man, you know Steve was told me what's going on. They they trying to you know, put me out and and T fairies acting weird You know, I'm saying and you know acting a little sassy like and so you had already spoke to Jay before you even nah, I hadn't I hadn't I Hadn't spoken to him about this situation me and Jay had talked about it like but not like on the level of just like See for me always wanted to just work with Jay anyway I feel like when I got Megan to a certain point I was gonna come to Jay anyway because I was gonna ask for help We want to do that's right.  I kind of like nah, Jay You know, I come back later.  Yeah, so if you to get yeah, so after I get to be the game when you suppose when he's But T fairies he knew what to say to me to make me like kind of Pause the J thing for a second and then you know, they went with they move and then that's when I went back with Jake You want that talk to you about at least you went back cuz I'm gonna tell you right now He's one of those guys that you really, you know, he knows the business. He when I like to say when I spoke to bird man He big up Jay and and you know Whenever you speaking to like Anybody when it comes to something I've heard Master P over and over again, right big up Jay You know all these people from Tony drink all these people anybody you see the movement it all the foundation have to be there A lot of time people try to make it just a H town thing Well, really it is a when it comes to the music industry It's a whole southern thing when it comes to J Prince because he was the one that first Initiated this stuff. So for niggas to try to go away for they like all he ain't who he is and all that That's that's really hating to be honest with you cuz because he first did it First in the south and ain't no sense of niggas trying to act like that. They ain't the way it happened I'm just gonna be real. You can say how you want to see it Yeah, he's the blueprint. You know, I'm saying definitely.  Well, what do you mean? Cuz you from fifth ward? Yep, so he from fifth ward, right? So when you first we think about this for a minute you from fifth ward He from fifth ward like when you first heard what was the song? What was it when you first heard about the ghetto boys?  Like what was your first experience dealing with J Prince in the ghetto boys? Let me say you're like so In fifth ward everybody we all know we all used to go to this place called Lockwood Skate Ring, okay? I heard that before you know, I'm saying it was like the soundtrack for rap a lot You know, I'm saying and you know just from all that from from Scarface to willy-dee to You know Bushwick Bill to all of you know, but everybody everybody First song was probably like that they familiar with is like mine playing tricks on yeah But it was his one song car bring it on you know, I'm saying that they had in the Skate Ring that we all know Yeah, and you know, that's how far back we go back with you know, I'm talking about you know, and you got I think Pimp scene and release a couple of projects over there with them. Yeah, yeah, but uh, yeah We you know, it was ingrained in us like from day one So you walking around like was Karen and we know every song and from you know the soundtrack from What's the movie Jason Lyric? Yeah, Scarface. Mrs. Scarface. Yeah, they bought bad money in the power You know what I'm saying? What about the one j-wrapped on the only one damn it feel good to be a gang see look I found out from jazz that like he was on a lot of this stuff. Like really In the power like he had to tell me one day. He showed it to you like, you know how to hook up money in the power Yeah, that's J voice right there. I didn't even know that So he was telling me so I was like, oh man. So, you know, it's like little stuff You know, I'm saying like that but uh, all those songs, you know, we were jamming all that stuff kids as kids for show What what do you think about like like when you look at where where where music is now, right? For as far as the way, you know, it comes When you think about that time We just spoke on going all the way into all the transitions from the screw DJ screw and all the different things from UGK being influenced heavily with the whole H town, you know combination like what do you think about where it is today? What the Houston? Well, I mean it seemed like the It seemed like the older guys that made like a it's like I don't know if it's because of streaming or whatnot but they've made like a Come back to what they they doing more shows and they still kind of like the popular people the youngsters you know, you might have like the Well, I don't call them a youngster, but under that level like maybe like the South Walker. Yeah, you know I'm saying they still doing a thing right now and You got the younger crew right now. It's just a little just a little loss out there. Yeah I'm saying yeah, they might have a few guys who can hook a rapper here and there But you know For the most part when they can't rap then, you know, it's time to sign and do get down to the business and Houston rappers man. They like like that entitlement stuff, you know Especially when it's coming from maybe see I always think people from out of town work better from out of town Like maybe if a Houston artist sign were like somebody from New York There might show them a little more respect because it's out of town or whatever. It's something about being in Houston dealing with Houston people and that the entitlement just seemed like to go way up here You know, I'm saying first off they gonna they go when you ask from the side They're gonna tell you that they want a million dollars a time, you know, I'm saying they Want record, I don't care if they put out one record on a stream one day If they from you they want a million dollars a time, you know, I'm saying and you just I can tell everybody I tried but hell no What did you think about Travis Scott when he first came on the scene now? He you know, so he kind of he went a different route. He didn't really come up through the Houston scene He kind of went through a line or something like that He still came out all right, but he didn't he didn't come up the normal route that we will see you know I'm saying like a star person do but at the same time He's still a stone and you know when he come out he make that different kind of music He make that you went to one of his shows before never have Man listen, man, I was at one of his shows and literally three people walked by me. They Passing like I'm seeing eyes rolling back Really like Michael Jackson.  They gotta have a lazy boy set up for me.  So he was trying to recreate after Man, let's see. Oh, we ain't forgot about you. I'm trying to believe me You better be ready when I shoot that way boy You see I've been hitting him with the movers and unders over early. You see how I'm rolling, huh? I'm coming with it Well, you know the thing I just you know, I love to see this connection because my biggest problem is to see Like people who don't we gotta reach back to the youth because it starts with the youth bro So to see this young man, you know here and you know, what did you see in the CEO that made you pick him? Well, here's the thing, you know, I'm saying like first of all got a new team No, I'm saying shout out to the new team 15 on my new stuff when I'm back here by not there What is Darren supposed to be doing man Darren back here? You know, he he wanted a guy to help me develop my orders, you know, okay?  Yeah, okay So he you know I'm saying like so me and him well I got a thing and where I go my love I let people send their music in and then we listen to them I found Erica banks the same way. It's like a review or something. Sorry. Yeah, so I let him play the music So same thing I got on my live, you know Hey, y'all see y'all music to the email that Darren putting up and we gonna play it live and see who you know was lit And you know, we playing it, you know, they can't see what me and Darren doing, but you know, so we're here We're like Yeah, so, you know So, you know after there was over I'm like, yo what you think you know, he was like I had actually forgot about him a little bit and he was like, yo, let's see. Yo, you know what I'm saying? But he said it in the matter like like he wasn't like a member that kid that was on there He was like, yo, let's see. Oh, so I can tell by the way he said it that he felt sometimes I'm like well look man. If you are You know, get it to get it. All right. Let me see, you know, I'm talking about you thinking something. Let's let's go So he you know, I can't with him and I'm saying brought him on down and we locked in with him. That's hard, man When you heard about it, he from Dallas when you heard about it When you knew that they were for the lock-in with you How did that make you feel and what did you think you like man to me? I'm there I don't know about this or would you like man? It's a great opportunity. I'm rolling with it Oh My my mama had something like and then so I guess it was a mental song come on I'm over don't send me no music wise in there.  Yeah, like nah, like my mom was something to lie.  I don't find what I want They don't he said How'd you feel when you heard when you heard that?  I'm like, I do I just don't respond But you know, I'm saying I listen and all that so, you know, like I say this gonna be another case Well, the people are always like, what are you fine? I might be like boy Don't you really be hard? You know, it just got to know when you like when it's time to dive in, you know, so Hey man, shout out to the Instagram line. Hey, man I gotta ask you about Erica though man cuz I you know, I heard this diss track It had some stuff in there, right? It was something going on with what is the deal with y'all? Is she on the label? Is she not on the label? You know about the contracts man, you know what I'm saying? I always get the blame once y'all once they learn what's going on So yes, she's assigned to 15 oh one in black and white, you know, I'm saying we was with one and she ended up getting dropped for one You know, okay, and then how long ago was that? That was what? J-Wear Something about a year ago or something like that. So she she got dropped But all these other runs when I seen y'all doing different press runs when when I seen y'all doing different Concerts different was that you putting up money to make push her as an artist At what time upon the time I'm talking about bars when I seen y'all do press runs after that where y'all was going around I was going like, you know, I can start with y'all. We was trying to Well, let me get back to this real quick. This is important. Okay You know, I'm saying when one of drops her all her rights Revered it back to 15 oh one. Okay, so she didn't understand that part or look leave it to her team So didn't know it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because they claim that this is something right but wanna put that in on a everything revered it back to 15 oh one So now it's just like the first day when she signed, you know, I'm saying and you know I was obligated to do certain things. So once I started spending on the situation We was good, but then, you know, it just went left I got a question because he said after she struck from Warner and come back to you It's almost like the contract reverse reverted back to like day one, but From the time you got her till she signed with Warner, how long of a period was that? How long did you have her? I we saw her doing 2020 I remember that 2020 I think y'all and how and when did she join fit you know one? 2020 all the same year and you got her straight to Warner. No, she won't like the next year The next year. Okay. So the contract she signed with you How many years did she had to be with you for projects? When she first came in Houston, her and her parents say, hey, we want the Megan the stallion deal That what they told you? Yeah, I said, okay I Say now the people that advised me Told me don't ever give nobody a contract like that again because you gave way too much You know I'm saying like I gave Megan a 40 60 split of the profit. Wow So I wasn't ever supposed to ever do that again, you know, I'm saying but I didn't I wanted to get in business quick And you know shouldn't have did it. I didn't listen to the people again. So I ended up giving her This the making this 40 60 gave her the making the style and for the and for pow wow damn boom deal, right where are you basically? 40 60 split. Yeah gave her the same thing that she they asked for the same thing and I gave up How you're signing bonus didn't make in the style. Wow. Yeah, so, you know, so did that too? And you know, but when we got them we got the Warner and then I got in the store You know, when Jay became my mentor and stuff like that They was like, hey man, we can't keep doing this. We can't be doing it. She We went we went and switched it but she signed off on it, you know, I'm saying we signed off on it We went to Warner, you know, I'm saying and they took over the contract the deal You know I'm saying and we switched the percentage we gave a higher a bigger signing bonus But we put the percentages back right how they normally supposed to be. Yeah, so, you know, that's the deal That's supposed to carry us all the way through, you know, I'm saying so we came down on now salaries, you know I'm saying yeah, so when she came back It was less than really what she initially started with percentage wise percentage wise. She got The money up front, you know, so at the end of the day, you know I'm gonna release her that we were really back into that contract And you know, they just didn't understand that part and thought they was out the contract and a couple of things happen with You know a new staff member that I had brought on to the label You know, huh That person in Erica didn't get along to it and it ended up being real bad and wow You know, it was a misunderstanding about some money that was old from from Warner, you know, and they figured it was me You know what I'm saying and now I go you're this What did you think when you first heard it did you feel like it was a slap in the face So did you feel like well well at that time, you know, because we was we was doing everything at a good faith at that time So it was really shocking to everybody because we was working towards like Doing things well. So we was like Where would you Oh, you was on flipping through first time I'm not tripping about no this though Let me just tell y'all because if you put me in the song, you know, I'm saying I ain't gonna do number repost it You put me into this. I'm gonna I'm gonna just repost it. I noticed that you be You know, I'm not you know, I'm saying like unless it was like a this or somebody saying they for the you know Kill me or something like that and then the series but that type of those little stuff I was like, hey, man, look, we still you still sound too late I don't care if this if everybody loving me getting this right now and and this song for the take-off Hey, let me let me do my part to help to repost Do you think like like cause y'all had a great chemistry together? Do you think you and Erica? Do you think that y'all can?  So at the end of the day, we just we got a couple of projects left for her You know, we want to get the music out there. We want her fans ahead. We want her to be successful as well, but You know, I'm just trying to I'm just trying to move 15 on one in a new space to where I'm not arguing with artists and arguing with managers and people and people that want to like run My side of the label, you know, I'm saying, you know, because it's always people in between with the audience You know, I'm saying even like like when Megan, it was T fares manipulate stuff early on in nash It's made is it's Erica and whoever in between, you know listening or whatever So there's always something in the middle that kind of like messes with my situation So I just when I when I feel that stuff now, I'm just like, yo Let's just do we gotta do and let me let me get away from You mentioned I'm loving hip-hop would If you know they love drama, right?  I can't give you the love part If y'all got a spot for me walking, you know, do that point then I'm good But if y'all want to try to set me up one of these imaginary girlfriend, you know, I can't do I got Probably gonna be, you know Mamas are maybe even I love interest that you have I don't know if you're single or not But how did I deal with because sometimes when you see on social media and you see you with all these young girls The kids to take talk stuff like that When they get mad, you know, you want to hang around young girls I'm like, bro. I'm dealing with influences right now. You know what I'm saying? Like this is what's going on They young I can't help it is day 25 and they look like they 16 These are like the kids that didn't make it in sports and stuff You know the kids that play sports look more mature the kids who just like hanging around school and you know They look younger, but they older so I went through that a lot because you know, it was the party and stuff But they didn't understand that those influences are numbers, you know, I'm saying and numbers are gonna Make the music, you know, make the music Yeah, but I know but I know some of these females also look at you as a check and they feel like and some of these young Tiktokers will come in and say, yeah, I'm gonna be Take care of me and they're not even thinking about the music. Let me tell you something about them About the influence of world they all think they like a star, right?  No, they like hey, hey get back We don't know you don't know you Eventually over time, but I'm sitting on that group over there that that community they don't I don't try to make them kids.  I thought we were going to the top, you know I'm mad man. I know it. I ain't no why I made a man cuz I like I was a big fan Still today, I don't have no issues with you know, just her and what she got going But I definitely seen an early on, you know, I mean, I told you that I seen early on like dang But then when you linked up what it was, you know, it was even better. So it's like dang It's gonna be crazy. I mean I just look for that raw talent. You know, I'm saying see if they can spit, you know I'm saying when they got the accent from where they from. Yeah, yeah, like that too So she had all everything I was looking for let me ask you this man I know you and smoothie all party ways, right? And At the end of the day, I just do you guys even have a relationship now do y'all talk? No I'm gonna let that stay right there.  He never was really even signed to So okay another day, you know Never really signed to you, but he put that 1501 tattoo on him. Yeah, I mean he was signed to us at the Development you gave me a game Yeah, all that and that's that was that was that was that I gave out a chain Before I actually wanted to I got pressured by people around me do that. Yeah, will you ever sign like a Will you ever work with another East Texas artist? I mean, yeah, the right one. I'll work with any artist. That's that's that fit the fist the system Like I said, I'm not gonna let What happened in the past deter me from moving forward and trying to keep continuing to do You know what I do when you and when y'all together y'all had a dope chemistry, too Like I said, you be having a dope chemistry with these people and y'all be running around and yeah, I'll be I'll be excited Yeah, I'm super excited like niggas up. We for the blow And but I don't even know if the deal doesn't happen, but I'm acting like it, you know When I see everybody moving I'm moving like yeah, right and then all of a sudden I hear y'all get on this live Once I see the damn live come That's what I'm not like damn is this really happening next thing, you know, you see the mojus jumping and everything You ain't but do you do the live as much as you so?  We get in studio mode You know, I might do it all that week or something like that But I don't just like do it all the time no more because you know, I'll be home a lot So I don't be one of all like to let people know where I'm in real time. That's real man and and so yeah, that's that's real what what you got so Let me get my punch in she got a under something she feel it though is you're going that little CEO is going that car No, I'm going that car right now. Okay, cool. Let's go and call again. So come I gotta ask this question So do you believe in God? Oh man, okay? I got it how your power all that stuff See, I got a little church, but I believe in God I got an issue with pastors. I ain't gonna even much lie, you know, but I believe in being the church call But your past is not a way to God. I don't have a pastor. So So I'm just saying But no, I have to ask those questions especially because of what happened today, you know losing, you know, rest in peace big deal Man, I see the big event. That's the thing, you know, because as much as what I look at is the fact that He exercised he right. He did all of that sort of stuff and he's what about 40 years old Not even that old. Yeah, and then just gone He spoke to him yesterday and then gone today. You know what I mean? He got young kids a wife and you look at situations like that and be like Why you know what I mean, but and I always say everything happens for a reason for the main fact that in my mind I'm saying what lesson did I need to learn from his life because I feel like each and every one of us are here to impact somebody So what lesson it is because that we all need to learn from each other No matter how young you are or how old you are there's something you need to learn. Yeah Yeah, that was tough. I do and that and that's why I don't you know I try to learn from everybody, you know Being here and then not being here, you know, just it's nothing you can do about that Hopefully you can just serve or you can even even figure out what your purpose is while you exactly serve it as much as you Can to you leave and you know, that's that that's how I You know go through life with that with that. That's the approach I take But what would you want people to think of you as like what legacy would you want to leave? Like I say my theme my purpose is to help others You know what I'm saying any way I can like I can't I can't I can't leave here until this This monster image thing about me is is over with because people that really know me know that All I've ever done is help people my whole life and I'm gonna continue to do that You know, I feel like that's the only way I get my blessings. You know, I can't talk about You know the settlement that we had but hey God ain't giving nobody those type of settlements unless you know We did you know, I'm saying I didn't I must have did something right I couldn't be his bad as a person is uh, you know, I'm painting out on social media Get this type of settlement. You know, so at the end of the day, that's God in my mind, you know showing everybody that hey Just you know believe in me stick with it It was a four-year grind and we got right here and now we passed it and you know, that's the only way I couldn't got through that was some hard times for me though for you just a whole bashing and Defaming just you know, I'm saying just action a lot of questions in your head like man Like what is the reason for this?  You know, I'm saying yeah, I didn't have to do none of this stuff I could have put that kept that money for my kids and all kind of stuff Yeah, I decided to come home help a guy that was was was was he was already managing Two of the biggest stars in the world with power wall and Mike Jones and he was them Homeless I come and help this guy and he do he do to me and all help this girl that was in a one-bedroom apartment with her mother And and I'm the person that's that's bad I gotta ask you about this undisclosed amount now you didn't say it, you know, you got enough and all that Everything that you invested in it you feel comfortable to say I am good now with the whole situation Well, yeah, I'm good with the whole situation got everything back that was old to me every single people That's all and you know at the end of the day I can move forward and I have to fight for that They made me fight really really hard for that You know, I can only do that with God, you know, that's the only way I got through it You know what I'm saying? No, that's real. I mean I I just heard you when you went there I had to get in there, you know I just want to make sure that you good Like little CEO man, you heard me say nothing wrong, right? Yeah, I just I just ride what he said, right? I'm gonna pull you in So what what what do you want to what what do you when you first started this music venture as a kid like growing up? When did you start music? I've been wanting to do murder since I was a little boy like six five my grandma house Okay, looking at all the wrappers in real quick all these types of stuff.  Oh, yeah, you talk about science though. I talk about right now Yeah, that's all that's all that science about so so I did your kids man. That's what I like That's real was a prodigy kid. Her mama was a rapper too. Really? Yeah, that's all that's who they get it for So when I hear about these prodigy kids, I I even are you know I'm saying I want to develop a mean mode because I know it's something in them You don't talk about it's gonna come out. Wow. So I mean Well, when you what what was it? Give me a little spill of the rhyme that you don't don't embarrass yourself Give me a little spill of what you said on that rhyme. Did you send to them? Did they see on the line? Yeah, yeah It was on feet. Let me hear the first verse or so I don't want to be on trying to go to where you be. I drop a judge.  Just like she won't let she slack is there a nigga run me wash it down on feet Man, that's I went down, right? I hear from me Though but I can't send them on music just to send it. Yeah, I ain't anywhere. I'm just keep sending it That's all I like that. Yeah, but but Darren, you know, I'm saying Darren there. It was on another time though, huh? Yeah, I went on to like two or three more time Yeah, he was on there. Yeah, he was on there a couple times Thank you, man.  You know, so You knew his voice. Yeah, I knew his little voice But but like I say Darren was like he was like, you know kept on Kept on bringing it to the forefront to me. You know, I'm sick of that I asked him what's going on, you know, the waters and stuff We were doing a lot of transitioning with bringing in a new team in 1501 so with baby Joker part of the new team or the old team Because he in the middle right there. He was no, no when I say new team. I'm talking about like staff staff So Joker's been around. Yeah, he's been around since the old team See so what part of work exactly are you from? I'm from Mars, Mississippi Oh I was gonna say somebody I'm business. I'm with school. They're work. So Like let me tell you something wait is somebody started something say they was from a certain town and a nigga got on here and out of them and Said they weren't from where they said they were from and yeah, he can be like this. So let's say you call Like This the Delta Mars me sick. Where's Mars by this is like by crossdale, Baseville Because his accent is like So What grade were you in when you moved to Dallas? I was like Five when I came down. Oh, you're not kind of fire, but I always went back down But you always went back home. Yeah, that's all right, man Like so I'm glad I'm glad we got that out the way cuz nigga wouldn't be like in the game from Dallas They don't even wears her like Dallas nigga. You gotta have a Man we ain't doing all yellow beads Man yellow bit don't talk about this I don't see for Oh I can't deal with it, bro, didn't you know when the police stop you how they act when they see y'all You know, I'll be on some old man stuff boy.  Have y'all dropped a single yet? We got we got we got you know, I'm saying we from the drop of Stinger Hill coming up, you know, I'm sure we are been shooting a couple of videos But we for the we for the road all his little stuff off of y'all to see We've been keeping it tight. You know I'm saying cuz you know like like I say all his numbers do 30 plus He only got 7,000 followers So he already got a little base to people that just that's all I see him every time he post something So we we packaging it up Love about you the most man And she I just be doing me like I'm just telling my life. Yeah, my story Yeah, I get like in a short summary. Tell me about you. Oh She going in on you. I'm a young man China figure out life I got picked up at the right time by a lady not nobody uncle in the basement They got a couple thousand to put up by a good leg Real me so No, I'm trying to get up I'm gonna try that I'm gonna try to put through the They get the sauce Ain't nobody saying about no uncle picking you up for two thousand What's up with that?  I can get some niggas for that That's what I'm talking about me. So I'm saying 4G be signed to him right Man 4 sign anybody that's a cash advantage. Shit. That's for them. Damn. And this is who I got picked up by hey That's what it's all about man. So so calm man. I'm gonna be looking forward to that man How can people get all of these young men with they looking for my all my social media? little ceo luh ceo underscore and y'all follow his uh You Oh to you, um, you know 1501 certified ET follow us on social media. That's all I got right there, you know, um, but uh Like I say man. Let's see yo, we have it.  And that's been like the knock on us So you think he's the one I mean we are joking. We got him. I'm I'm hoping it's both of you know what I'm saying so uh But I definitely want to give myself a real good shot at it this year Are you looking for another female?  That's it. You know at the end of the day I ain't gonna force it like over the years. I think I kind of was um The last few trials I think I might have Tried to force that a little bit more than like, you know, I'm sound naturally would have so I want to Kind of fall back and relax a little bit with it. Let it kind of come to me And you know kind of you know, just kind of let it happen naturally Man, thank you so much for coming on the show man. All right It's been another great segment of boss talk 101 what a boss is talk and we out


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Live from Houston, Texas. Extracting the signal from the noise. It's theCUBE. Covering Grace Hopper Celebration of Women in Computing. Now your host, Jeff Brick. Hey, welcome back everybody. We are live in Houston, Texas for the Grace Hopper Celebration of Women in Computing 2015. We're so excited at theCUBE here this year. We came down to do the quick drive by last year, but we've got the full production. Three days of wall to wall coverage. Finding the smartest people we can find in the room. The people you want to hear from and really bringing them inside theCUBE to get the information. So we're really excited this next segment. A company you may have heard of, an organization, Women, or excuse me, Girls Who Code. So we have the founder and CEO, Risha Sanjani, welcome. And from AT&T, Marissa Shorenstein, from New York State AT&T. Welcome to theCUBE. Thank you. So everywhere we go, we always ask people, what organizations do you work with that are really out front of this topic, really helping change the dynamic around women and girls and computer science. And the name that comes up over and over and over is Girls Who Code. So congratulations on all that you guys are doing. So for the people that aren't familiar with the organization, give us a little update, background, how long you've been around, kind of the mission. So we're a national nonprofit. We like to say we're a movement. We started in 2012. And our goal is to close the gender gap in computer science and tech. So basically in the 1980s, about 37% of all computer science graduates were women. And today that number is less than 18%, which is insane, given how reliant we are. It's going the wrong way. It's going the absolute the wrong way. And so in 2012, we decided to do something about it. And so we taught 20 girls how to computer program. And our model is two-fold. We build classrooms and tech companies. So we'll take 20 girls and we'll teach them how to code for seven weeks, rising juniors and seniors in high school at companies like Facebook and Google and Twitter, AT&T is one of our biggest sponsors. And then we launched after-school programs in about 40 states. So we have girls right now coding in Indian reservations in homeless shelters, in the best private schools in America. Thousands and thousands of girls have kind of raised their hand and said, teach me how to code. Now, less than four years later, we have taught over 10,000 girls how to computer program in 40 states. Wow. So the ages when you say girls, it's rising juniors and seniors, right? So we start in middle school for- For clubs and our summer immersion program is rising juniors and seniors in high school. And then in terms of the code that you teach them, there's a lot of conversation. How do you get them interested in code? What types of projects do you give them that's going to grab them and say, hey, this is kind of cool? Yeah, so it's really project-based learning. So 74% of girls say that they want to pick a career that's about changing the world. So when we teach algorithms or mobile app development or website development, it's really about what do you want to create? So maybe a girl has a mother who's obese and she wants to build an app to fight bullying or maybe she herself has been bullied. So they're constantly thinking about the problems that they're facing and that they're seeing and how they can use technology to solve them. Okay, and then you mentioned reservations all over the place. For people that don't necessarily have a computer or internet access or might be challenged financially, you support them that way as well. Do you give them infrastructure, laptops? How do you do that? Absolutely, and AT&T, for example, we had a great program in LA at Emboil Heights where we use community centers and bring together girls that are in the community that might not have access to wifi, might not own a computer and actually teach them on-site and community centers that can provide some of the hardware and fill that gap that many communities are facing. And so it's really important, our partners like AT&T who are so committed to solving, I mean, just serving underserved communities and making sure that no one is left behind in this tech gap that we have, there are huge reasons why we're able to do the work that we're doing. So begs the question, Marissa, how did you get involved with Girls Who Code? Well, Reshma came to me at its inception and said, I think this is a program that's really going to interest AT&T. At the time, the program was just starting in New York only. And so we partnered with Reshma her first year and since then we've been huge supporters of the organization because we believe that it takes public-private partnerships to ensure that we're teaching our young women the skills that they need to compete for jobs in the 21st century and companies like AT&T, which employ 300,000 people around the globe, constantly are looking for a diverse talent pool that really doesn't exist right now. Young women, young men who understand computer science and software engineering and can come into a company like AT&T or another technology company that requires skills that these young people are not being exposed to. So what Reshma and Girls Who Code is doing is just phenomenal for these girls, but also for companies like ours because we're going to have an expanded talent pool over the next several years that will make our jobs a lot easier in terms of finding great talent. So has the early girls graduated from college? I'd love to have you hired any former, any former, they must be getting close, right? They're getting close, getting close. But that's why we're here today to announce this alumni network that AT&T is funding along with others because we want to ensure that these young women, once they go through the program, have the support that they need in college so that they stick with computer science and software engineering, come out the other end, having the support that they need and exposure to internships, to job talent pools and other ways to ensure that they get what they need so that they don't drop off and that they come to companies like ours once they get through college. Yeah, because it came up in the keynote today, right? There's two parts of the problem. There's the pipeline problem and then there's the retention problem and they're both slightly different animals. And Rush, your comment that the numbers have basically had the computer science also brought up something that was interesting in the keynote that it's not a STEM problem, it's specifically a computer science problem. It's a T and the E problem. I mean, 71% of all STEM jobs are in computer science, right? So the fact that you don't have half our labor force, half of those in college, in these jobs is a huge problem. I always say that this is the most important domestic issue facing our country right now as the lack of women in technical fields. Right, so let's expand on the announcement today. So in kind of the core program, how many years did the girls participate? Yeah, so the summer program is a seven week program. The clubs program can be as many as every year from middle school on up.  I want to learn more coding. What's another language? Can you help me find an internship? Will you help me move my resume? How do I fill out my college app? And so how do I do a technical interview? So there are all these skills that girls needed and to stay in, not only to get into now the pipeline but to stay into the pipeline and be prepared to go work at a company like AT&T. And so we really came together and said we need to build an alumni network. One of the biggest opportunities that girls go and AT&T see is that if you look actually at the college numbers, the dropout rate for women and men is the same. It's about 40%. And when you talk to young women about why they're dropping out of computer science, it's a lack of community. They don't get called out in a class. They're the only girl in the program. So one of the things that, one of the major things that we're doing in Girls Who Code and our alumni network is building community amongst women. And it's so important. And one of the things that happens when they spend these summers together is that they build that community and so we want to ensure that when they go to college they still find that close knit community through one another even if they're in different places. So that's been really important to us as an aspect of this alumni network to keep these girls in touch with one another and in touch with the companies that sponsored them. Right, and right now you don't really have a giant diversity in ages because you've been at it for three or four years. But at some point I would imagine that mentorship in the alumni now becomes really important as the early birds start making their way through the career. So now you get more kind of a mentorship opportunity. I mean, go by our booth. It's swarmed with women who are now either majoring in computer science in college or maybe they're a professional woman who's here and they're saying, how can I help? Like this idea of a sisterhood in computer science is huge because many of these women, they were bullied, they were the only ones in the classroom. They know what it's like to not have a sense other women supporting you and so they all want to pay it forward and pay it back. That's exactly what's happening. Our alumni, graduating our program, they're starting college and they're signing back up to be a TA to go teach at a club or in one of our summer programs. Yeah, and I love how you highlight that it's like many things, like it's writing software, commercial service, not just the code, right? There's all the tangential things around it which somewhat argue are actually the harder part, you know, pricing and packaging and marketing and go to market and all those things. So it's not just learning how to code. As you said, it's learning how to interview. It's how to prepare a resume. It's how do I make contacts? How do I break in because the front door generally doesn't work? So that's a phenomenal thing to do to help them with all those tangential things that'll help them be successful as code.  And he said, all right, Jada, let me call you right back. So he went and looked at all the top male entrepreneurs, what their grade point average was and he came back to her and he said, all right, if you get above a 2.8, we're good. And he basically gave her permission to fail. And what she found was that to go work at Square or Twitter or Google, you don't need more than a 2.8. Like it's okay, right? If you're not getting that perfect 4.0 and it's really having that knowledge from other women of what the grade point average really was to get a job there because oftentimes we just don't know. Right, right. Well, and the other thing we just had Ashley Connerdon and she's from biology. She started implementing computer science as part of her biology effort. I mean, really technology and software is everywhere now as evidenced by, you know, Vespai and Target and Walmart and Macy's being here. You know, these are not tech companies. These are big retailers and AT&T. But everybody's really a software company. It just happens to be wrapped around a particular service or whether they stay just purely as coders or use as an extension to whatever field is tremendous value. And one of the things we've seen from the girls is that even if they have an interest in fashion or in medicine, when they go through the program they see how technology can apply to what it is that they want to do. They could be building an app that saves people from, you know, a certain disease and it marries their love of medicine with technology. And so that's been a very powerful tool for us to encourage them to stick with technology even if it wasn't what they originally thought that they wanted to do. There's, I'm forgetting, there was a woman we interviewed who had a rent address business basically but she was a software developer to rent these, you know, super high-end fashion investors. Right, rent-to-run way. What is her name? Do you remember? I could see her face. But again, not what you would think of as a technical computer science job at all but she's a coder, right? It's all about how she manages her inventory, how she manages that business. And it's a great example of, again, software is everywhere. So what's next? Where do you guys go from here? World domination. We literally infiltrate the field and we get every girl access to coding education. That's where we're moving. I mean, our scale is not, Marissa and I don't take credit for it. It's really about the fact that, like, there are girls. I mean, we're over-subscribed and so many girls have said teach me how to code and for us it's about how do we get them access to coding education as quickly as we can because I think we both, we want to go out of business and time is running out. Yeah, yeah. So talk a little bit about Grace Hopper, this event specifically. You know, it's, like I said, we didn't know anything about it until last year. We got tipped off on it. Kelly Grizzie from Intel, thank you very much. And it's really a very unique and special place. What does it mean for the industry? What does it mean for girls who code specifically? I mean, I think it means everything. Again, I think the sense of community is so important just to see these amazing women walking around and they're being recruited. I mean, these companies are literally fighting over them and to have a space where that that happens is enormous. And so it's a huge testament to Anita Borg and the fact that they've been really able to blow up this conversation and to get key stakeholders involved in committing to make a difference on the issue. I think for young women to see all these companies here invested in them makes them understand that this is their future. And as long as they stick with it and feel that they have the support that they need, which is what we're offering them, that the sky is the limit. Right, and from a corporate perspective, I imagine this wasn't too hard of a sale. It's a pretty feel good thing to get involved with.  One is it's the right thing to do, which we've talked a number of times earlier on theCUBE. But also, you need more people, right? You can't cut off half of the potential population when bottom line is there just aren't enough great people to hire to support the ongoing growth. Right, and that's why for us, sorry, a little cough. It's all right, have a drink of water. You okay? Yes. It's both about, I'm really tough. You need to need a drink of water, all right. You can dig up the karmish. I think that's why companies like AT&T are here because it's about the workforce pipeline. And, you know, they're in communities where they can't hire fast enough. And again, not having half the population or part of this growth doesn't make any sense. Right, right.  How can people get involved? How do people help with checks, time? Yeah, so speak to the young woman in your life and make sure you tell her to code and encourage her to build something. I mean, too, if you have technical skills, sign up to be a volunteer at our Girls Who Code Club or at our summer immersion program. And if you have money, write a check. Donate on our site, girlswhocode.com. Awesome. Well, thank you again for stopping by. Thank you. Thanks for supporting such a great cause. Again, everywhere we go, we say, what organizations are doing good work in the field and Girls Who Code comes up all the time. So, really glad to finally put a face with the organization. So, I'm Jeff Frick. We are live at the Grace Opera Celebration for Women in Computing. We'll be right back on our next guest. We'll have this short break.


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Thank you so much. We too are very pleased to be at Barnes. It's a wonderful situation to be able to come together with all of the graduate student scholarship in the area. And I'm very pleased to introduce Kailin M. Jewel, a PhD candidate in the Department of Art History at Tyler School of Art of Temple University. She's currently the recipient of a dissertation completion grant awarded by the Graduate School for Architectural Decorum and Aristocratic Power in Late Antiquity, the Gens Anichi, under Dr. Elizabeth Bulman, which she will be defending soon. She has received multiple travel grants for her research, including from the International Center for Medieval Art and the Research Center for Anatolian Civilizations at Kach University in Istanbul, as well as developing substantial digital scholarship expertise through being awarded multiple fellowships in the Center for the Humanities at Temple, the Humanities, Arts, Science, and Technology Alliance and Collaboratory, and in the Digital Scholarship Center and Paley Library at Temple University. This has resulted in a recent publication in Peregrinations, Journal of Medieval Art and Architecture. Kailin has lectured widely from the College Art Association to specialized conferences, such as the annual Byzantine Studies Conference, the famous Kalamazoo International Congress on Medieval Studies, the most recently in which she co-chaired the Italian Art Society-sponsored sessions with Amy Gillette here at the Barnes, and her forthcoming appearance at the International Medieval Congress at the University of Leeds, for which she received support from the Delaware Valley Medieval Association. She also has been selected as spotlight lecturer in multiple capacities at the Philadelphia Museum of Art. This summer, she'll be returning to a Stanford-sponsored archaeology site in Sicily to work as the architectural historian on the Martza Mamie Maritime Heritage Project, which is a sixth century shipwreck whose cargo included prefabricated marble architectural sculpture intended for the construction of a church. Please join me in welcoming Kailin Joule to speak on topographies of aristocratic power in the late antique Mediterranean. Kailin. Thank you, Dr. Cooper. Thanks to the Barnes. Thanks to everybody for attending today. In 413 CE, Bishop Aurelius of Carthage bestowed a sacred veil upon the head of a young woman named Demetrius, who, along with her family, had fled Rome in the aftermath of the Visigothic sack of the city a few years earlier. Through this ritual, known as the Velatio, Demetrius became a consecrated virgin of the church, and her family reaped the benefits of having produced this so-called living martyr. Several decades later, Demetrius moved back to Rome, where she was responsible for the construction of a church dedicated to the first of the martyrs, Saint Stephen, which was located on the Via Latina. Nearly a century later, in the city of Constantinople, a relative of Demetrius, a woman named Anichaea Giuliana, built a church dedicated to Saint Polyuctos, a monument whose ostentatiousness might have prompted Emperor Justinian to build Hagia Sophia. These churches, Rome's Santo Stefano and Constantinople's Saint Polyuctos, provide just two examples of the architectural patronage of the Gens Anichae, a legendarily powerful family known primarily through the textual and epigraphic record. Described by scholars as having had a tentacular role in the political and religious life of the late antique Mediterranean, the Anichaea's widespread topography of power is clearly visible in the appearance of inscriptions across the empire. As we can see in this heat map, where red areas indicate a high epigraphic frequency. Useful as this visualization is in terms of placing individual Anichae in specific geographical locations, what it cannot demonstrate are the motivations behind these widespread topographies of power and how they appeared on the ground. It is the goal of this paper to explore these concentrated nodes of Anichaean authority to reveal how individual members of the family impacted the fabric of urban centers with an emphasis placed upon Rome and Constantinople. More specifically, I discuss Demetrius's Santo Stefano and Anichaea Giuliano's Saint Polyuctos and their roles in the cultivation of an aristocratic decorum of architecture that provided these Anichaean women with visible topographies of power within the politically tumultuous transformation of the Roman Empire during the fifth and sixth century CE. Through a thorough consideration of the archeological and textual records, I argue that the construction of these buildings often strategically dedicated, located and decorated served as physical markers of a distinctly aristocratic authority. We begin at the third mile of Rome's Via Latina where today we find a very lovely, quiet archeological park, please go, it's lovely. Lining the ancient road is a series of impressive ancient mausoleum, a few of which contain wonderfully preserved examples of Roman imperial funerary decoration. Tucked into the northeastern corner of this park are the remains of a ruthless rectangular structure which now functions as a storeroom for the materials excavated from the surrounding area. It is this unassuming monument that marks the site of Demetrius's church dedicated to St. Stephen. The precise date of construction for St. Stefano is hard to pin down as is common for many late antique monuments. We are fortunate, therefore, that the Liber Pontificalis makes reference to it in an entry on Pope Leo the Great. Quote, God's handmade Demetrius built a basilica to St. Stephen on her estate at the third mile of the Via Latina. This places the monument's erection tentatively during the pontificate of Leo I between 440 and 461. Further evidence for this dating was discovered during 19th century excavations at the site conducted by the Pontifical Commission for Sacred Archeology under the direction of Lorenzo Fortunati. In 1857, after archeologists rediscovered the remains of a large villa complex on the Via Latina, he and his team uncovered a large fragmentary inscription. This reconstruction confirms the, it was reconstructed, and which confirms the association with Pope Leo and the fifth century date.  These references are useful not only in dating the monument, but they reveal an interesting and often remarked upon facet of Demetrius' life, her virginity. Clearly, this is something that was important enough to her identity, that she wanted to carve it into the material fabric of her church, and that the compilers of the Liber Pontificalis wanted to emphasize in their entry on Pope Leo the Great. Given that we know many elite women of the fourth and fifth centuries chose to renounce the secular world in favor of a life devoted to Christ, why was Demetrius' decision to do the same so remarkable? If we look more closely at some of these women, like Paula and Markella, who congregated in sumptuous palace complexes, unfortunately now lost, which were located on Rome's Aventine Hill, we find that they often made the conversion to the spiritual life as a result of becoming widows. Demetrius, on the other hand, was unmarried when she received the Velatio in 413. Although we do not have firsthand accounts of Demetrius' bailing ceremony, scholars like Natalie Henry and Peter Brown have reconstructed what must have been a very elaborate and conspicuously public occasion. Taking place in Carthage, the event would have occurred in Rome if the city had not been sacked by the Visigoths in 410. Given the prestige of the Aenechii and their close ties to the North African provinces, the event was likely well attended. According to Brown, the festivities that marked the ritual would have resembled the spectacles associated with the debut of a senator or consul, which we can see depicted in the lower portions of these late antique ivory diptychs. In addition to the senatorial and consular overtones, an echo of Roman marriage ritual was present in the bestowal of a veil by the bishop upon Demetrius, analogous to the veiling of the bride during the Roman wedding ceremony. Comparisons can also be made between consecrated virgins like Demetrius and the vessel virgins of pre-Christian Rome, as both were sworn through ritual to uphold their celibacy in the service of a deity. Yet unlike the vestals who could age out of their celibate lifestyle, the consecrated virgins of Christianity had to maintain their status for the rest of their lives. The preservation of the perpetual virginity of these women became a significant preoccupation of several late antique theologians, including Ambrose of Milan, Augustine of Hippo, Pelagius, and Jerome. Ambrose in particular wrote an entire treatise with instructions for newly consecrated virgins and how they should comport themselves, which opened with a comparison between them and the virgin martyrs like St. Agnes, who we see here in a seventh century mosaic from Rome. In this remarkable passage, Ambrose wrote, quote, virginity is not praiseworthy because it is found in the martyrs, but because it itself makes martyrs. He followed this with a discussion aimed towards parents of these women who might be apprehensive to take their daughters out of the pool of eligible brides as they were useful agents in the formation of strategic marriage alliances. Of this, Ambrose stated, quote, parents will refuse a dowry, but you have a wealthy bridegroom and content with the riches of his ancestral inheritance, you shall not want for gain. How much more excellent is chaste poverty than a large dowry, end quote. Of course, the bridegroom to whom Ambrose referred was surely Christ, but it is easy to see how the marriage language could have been attractive to families like the Aenechii who continued to seek traditional Roman alliances in the newly Christianized aristocracy. Let us return to Demetrius' church on the Via Latina in Rome, built in the decades following her Velatio in Carthage. Although the building was associated with Pope Leo, the choice of St. Stephen for the dedication was entirely up to Demetrius and probably resulted from her close contact with Augustine of Hippo, the man who was ultimately responsible for the arrival of St. Stephen's relics in North Africa in 416 CE. Three short years after the miraculous discovery in the Holy Land. Not only would St. Stephen have been on Demetrius' mind given her time spent in North Africa, I suggest that she could have viewed his transformation from deacon to martyr as a reminder of her own conversion from eligible bride into a consecrated virgin, the so-called, a so-called living martyr. Furthermore, the location of St. Ostefano within the walls of her family's villa, which at the time, continued to be filled with classical sculpture, was also within view of an ancient necropolis that imbued Demetrius' church complex with a funerary aspect appropriate for a personal monument dedicated to a martyred Christian saint. The juxtaposition of the newly built Christian church alongside pagan mausoleia would not have been entirely jarring given the late antique trend to place monumental ecclesiastical architecture over the burials of Christian saints. Yet the almost triumphal rise of Demetrius' church, admittedly hard to visualize given its current state of ruin among the ancient tombs of the pagan past could serve as a reminder to Demetrius and her family of the grace associated with Stephen's final words as he prayed for the mob that had stoned him to death. Quote, then he kneeled down and cried out in a loud voice, Lord, do not hold this sin against them. In his last moments on earth, Stephen did not curse his murderers or ask for their destruction. Instead, he prayed for their salvation. In a similar way, we have no evidence that Demetrius or her builders sought to destroy the monumental markers of the vibrantly pagan past that surrounded her church. Rather, she chose to leave them intact and perhaps hoped her architectural vote of offering to Saint Stephen would sanctify the site. Shifting to the eastern Mediterranean city of Constantinople and nearly a century later in the sixth century, Demetrius' relative, Anikia Juliana, rebuilt her family's church dedicated to St. Pauliuktos. Although the building no longer survives, its massive foundations were rediscovered in Istanbul's Saracane district during a 1960 road expansion project. Located along the northern branch of Constantinople's main ceremonial route between the Philadelphia and the church of the Holy Apostles, the subsequent archeological excavations uncovered an enormous amount of finely carved architectural sculpture that articulated the monument's interior. The building was large as the site plan demonstrates and internally measured approximately 50 by 50 meters square. According to Jonathan Bardil's reconstructed plan, the nave was lined on either side by a series of three large semicircular spaces, which would have been somewhat similar in form to those found in the naus of San Vitale in Ravenna, albeit with five arches instead of three. Crowning the side and central arches of these spaces were peacocks whose tail feathers unfurled over their bodies in a physical gesture of display to create the form of a semi-dome. On the soffits of the arches between the semi-domes were two pairs of confronting peacocks. Their tails also raised above their heads and in this fragment from the Istanbul Archeology Museum, we can see that their tails nearly touched at the arch's midpoint, which we can see right here at the tops of their tails. In total, the archeological record suggests that there were over 40 of these sculptural birds. That an elite woman living in sixth century Constantinople would choose to install peacock imagery in a church interior is not, in and of itself, remarkable, given the ubiquity of the motif in late antiquity, as we can see in these extant examples. Yet the sheer number and repetition of these birds inside a single church is surprising and can remind us of what Professor Dale Kinney has described as a, quote, discourse of display, whereby magnanimity, or magnificentia, could be amplified through the replication of specific forms. In addition to the sculptural peacocks at St. Polyuctos, a full page illumination of a peacock displaying his tail feathers appears in the opening pages of the sixth century of the Vienna diascorides, a manuscript that was given to Giuliana as a vote of offering from a suburban Constantinopolitan group of citizens for her generous donation of a church. The unconventional posture of these birds facing outward towards the viewer is striking for it breaks with much more common depictions in profile surrounded by vine-scrolls and often flanking vessels or wreaths as we can see in this example from Egypt, now on display in the Met. While scholars have repeatedly interpreted the appearance of these birds as terrestrial symbols for the beauty and abundance of heavenly paradise, I argue that Giuliana's peacocks should be understood as visual markers of display that recalled the aristocratic Romani toss of their Anichian ancestry. Their installation along the length of St. Polyuctos' nave created a gauntlet of male peacocks raising their feathers in highly conspicuous gestures of display for those that processed towards the altar. In a politically charged moment when the Anichiae were being overlooked in favor of the fresh-faced Justinianic dynasty, St. Polyuctos and its ostentatious decoration served as a reminder to viewers, including Emperor Justinian, who visited the church, of the power and authority of old Roman families like the Anichiae. From this discussion of both Demetrius' Basilica dedicated to St. Stephen in Rome and Anichia Giuliana's church of St. Polyuctos and Constantinople, we can begin to understand how aristocratic families like the Anichiae used the patronage of architecture to position themselves within the highest echelons of late Roman society. These buildings, thoughtfully dedicated, strategically located and purposefully decorated, each served to concretize the power of their aristocratic patrons. In historical moments, racked by war, plague, and political instability, the financing construction of solid, immovable buildings like St. Stefano and St. Polyuctos afforded aristocrats like those of the Gens and Anichiae with a sense of permanence and stability that they hoped would last in perpetuity. Thank you.


This paper examines the influence of historical economic policy agendas and paradigms on current food and nutrition policy in Ghana. It finds that despite increased political priority for nutrition in Ghana, its integration into food policy remains limited due to a strong focus on production, employment and economic returns. The paper also highlights the importance of understanding the historical context of these policy agendas and paradigms, which are rooted in structural adjustment in the 1980s and trade liberalization in the 1990s, combined with historical experience of failure of food policy intervention and an entrenched narrowly economic conception of food security. This article was authored by Enmarito, Charles Appere, Janelle Winters and others.


This is Mass Sergeant David Cooster here at Joint Base Andrews where we're having an air show to celebrate the 75th anniversary of the Air Force. And this is my aircraft behind me, 86-0044. We've got a tent over here, we've got the jet behind us, we'll get kids all day long, they're going to come up and we want to talk to them, right there the future of the Air Force, so the future of our military and our national security. We're volunteering to come out here because we want to be a part of this, we want to shape the nation's future and so we can talk to a kid or a young adult and tell them why this mission is so critical, we might be able to get more people into our unit, into our doors here at the Guard and get them wearing a uniform and serving their country. So today we're out here, we set up a tent just to kind of meet some individuals, hopefully we can get a few applicants around here. So that's what we're hoping to do is get some recruits to join the Air National Guard. It's very important for us to engage with the public because they want to know who we are, they want to know who the DC Air National Guard is and where we are, those faces. It's crucial to remember that your National Guard units are here doing the same job and protecting your skies each and every day. Everybody kind of sees what we do from outside the gates or maybe the jets are flying over or maybe they see Air Force One, but they don't get that close up interaction with the pilots, the airframes or the personnel that work on base. So when we get a chance like this weekend at the air show to bring you on base and show you the mission, it makes all the more reason that you come out and you support what we do because you get a hands-on feel and an idea of what your tax dollars are going towards and also why this is also important here at Joint Base Andrews each and every day of the year.