The Anderson family. Okay, Mary. If this McGuire won't sell us any more eggs, I'll buy some hens and get our own eggs. But, Oliver, it's not worth it. It is to me. I'll take every customer away from that McGuire. Giving me the bum's rush on eggs. You know nothing about eggs, Oliver. I know. All you have to do is feed the hen and wait. There's your egg. Nothing to it. I just won't have a lot of hens running around my yard. Too late now. I've already bought 25 hens. Uh-oh. Here we go again, folks. Now let's visit the Anderson's. Well, this whole thing started when Oliver tried to buy a dozen eggs from a neighbor, Mr. McGuire, who has been selling eggs in the neighborhood. Mary Anderson happened to be out of eggs, so Oliver went to the McGuire home to get some. Uh, nice-looking group of chickens you have there, McGuire. You mean a flock, don't you? Well, I suppose that's the term they use in the egg industry. Yes, yes, and you didn't come over to compliment me on my eggs. No, no, I didn't. I came over to make a purchase. We ran out of eggs, so I thought I'd buy a dozen from you. Yeah, now ain't that just dandy. I offered you eggs a month ago, and you thought I was too high. Yeah, now that there ain't any eggs, you'll do business with me. Well, you will admit you were off a few cents. Yeah, I might have been. But I ain't gonna apologize to you for how I run my business. You know, the best thing you can do is to run on. Well, not you. And you just try someplace else if you can find any. Oh, okay, McGuire. If you'll that way about it, I'll buy my own hens. And I'll sell the extra eggs around this neighborhood at five cents a dozen lower than you. Touch, touch, tittle, you don't scare me none. You don't know nothing about chickens in the first place. No eggs neither.  I'll be glad to, but this is gonna be an egg battle to the end, McGuire. Go on, beat it, beat it, and don't never let me catch you on my property again. Yeah, sure, your head will look more like an omelet than it do now. Not only did he insult me, but he refused to sell me any eggs, Mary. Maybe he doesn't have any, Oliver. That's neither here nor there. He's got hens. And you get eggs from hens. It's just the way nature works. Can you improve on nature? Well, no. But I can operate the same way with hens like he has there. But you know nothing about chickens, Oliver. You don't have to know anything about hens. You just feed them and water them and the hens do the rest. Sometimes hens don't lay for a couple of months, Pop, when they're molting. Oh, yeah. Well, I'll get some that don't molt. Now, look, Oliver, I know very little about chickens, but I know they don't lay an egg every day. My hens will. Your hens? Pop, did you get some already? I did. Just that, my boy, some Rhode Island reds from a fella out in the country. He'll deliver them this afternoon. Oh, no, not that. Why didn't you wait, Oliver? What, and have someone else beat me to the hens, not me? Hey, that's the kind of hens Mr. McGuire has, Pop. Rhode Island reds. Yeah, but his have that tired look. I bet he beats them every day for that extra egg. Well, I don't know what gets into you, Oliver. A few hens won't be worth the trouble. A few? What are you... I bought 25. 25? Why, Oliver, we can't use that many eggs. Of course not. I'll sell a couple dozen a day. I see. So we put a sign out in front. Fresh eggs from contented hens. I won't have any time to try to sell them, Pop. Sell them? What people will be calling on us who haven't spoken to us for months? That's what eggs will do for you today. I see. But suppose you explain to me how you expect to save money by having our own hens. That's simple, Mary. Simple. You feed a hen about two cents worth of feed. You get an egg worth five or six cents. A hen lays an egg every day? These hens will. How do you know? Well, a fellow sold them to me, said they'd been resting for two months. And now they're ready for production. So you thought now would be the time to buy? Of course. I don't want them resting on my time. Well, it's no job, Mom, to fix up the garage. Mr. Meister and I can fix up a coop in no time. Of course you can, and you can feed them in five minutes. Yeah, but sometimes I don't get back from my paper route to Lake Pop.  If they're hungry, they'll eat. Look, Oliver, if you're bound you're going to have the hens. You have to take care of them properly. Uh, how do you mean, Mom?  You put in feed, wait around a while, you get an egg in return. Like a slot machine, huh? Sure. Only have more chance with a hen. I see. But in the meantime, what about work? See the time? Time. Oh, yeah. I can't retire on 25 hens.  Oh, yeah, well, just get Homer over to Health Junior and have him fix up the garage. Put in a few roosts in about 25 nests. 25 nests? Well, certainly there's 25 hens. They're entitled to a little privacy, aren't they? Oh, all right. I'm afraid you've been a little hasty on this deal, Oliver. Hasty? Don't be silly. McGuire's worried already, and the hens haven't even arrived. Have the farmer put them in the garage, and if you're not here, have Homer put them in. Well, what about feed? I'll order some. I don't worry about that. Now, take care of everything. I have to run. Now, you know what Oliver wants done with the garage, Homer? Yep, yep, yep. Oh, it looks to me like he's going to an awful lot of trouble just for a few hens. Well, the more I think of it, the more I feel that having our own eggs may be worth it. Oh, but, Dagnabbit, Mary, hens don't lay when they're molten. Now, you take guinea hens. With them, there ain't no molten. What's that, Homer? This, uh, molting business. Well, you don't know? Well, look, Mary, I'll tell you. Now, you take that cat of yours, Abigail. Oh, boy, there's a name for a cat of her, but I heard one. And I heard one, and it was Abigail. Oh, me. Well, now, in the summertime, that cat of yours, she sheds a fur, don't she? Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, chickens are the same way. They have what they call their molten season. Well, they have to grow new feathers, and it takes so much of the food for that. Well, they just don't lay any eggs. That's all. Oh, Homer. Well, that's why Mr. McGuire's hens look like half their feathers are gone. Yep, you're right, Junior. Yep, yep. Well, all of us says these hens have rested, so maybe they've grown their new feathers. And here's another thing. You don't need no 25 nests for 25 hens? I think Pop has a reason for that, Mr. Meister. Well, I don't know. I'm just getting paid for working, not thinking, so I guess a biddy get at it. Well, now I'm going on to the store. If the man brings the chickens home, I just put them in the garage so they can't get out. Well, that's where you're smart, Mary. The neighbors don't like the way this McGuire lets his chickens run through everybody's garden. He just don't keep them in. We will, Homer. So take care of everything, and you hurry home from your papers, Junior. Okay, Mom. Well, I guess a biddy get started on this koopie. Oliver said the fella live room this afternoon. You know, Mr. Meister, I often wonder why does Pop always do everything the hard way? Oh, there, Mrs. Thompson. How are you today? Well, I have never felt more depressed in my life. It's too bad. What does the boss think about it? If you mean Mr. Thompson, I think he's vitally interested. He's feeling very low. Oh, something to eat. Quite the contrary. It's something he didn't eat. He must have fresh eggs every day, and our egg man has stopped bringing them. Oh, eggs, huh? Well, don't worry. Your egg problem has been solved. How lovely. I don't understand, Anderson. We were up against the same thing, so I bought some hens. And any time you need a few dozen, just let me know. Really? Why, Oliver Anderson, how I've misjudged you. You mean you don't want the eggs? Oh, no. Of course not. I'll take all the eggs you can get. Oh, well, I have to split some of them up among the neighbors. Well, just so Philbert gets six a day. Six a day? That's easy. Well, it may be easy for you, but how about the hens? Oh, well, they won't mind. They have nothing else to do with the eggs except leave them in the nest. Now, when can I expect the eggs? Soon as I get home, I'll call Mary later today and see how production is. Aren't you rushing things a bit? Oh, no. These hens have been resting for two months. Well, let's hope they don't continue to rest. Don't worry. They don't have any unemployment checks coming in. I'll call you from home this evening, and you and Philbert can drop by and pick up a dozen or so. You mean eggs? Either eggs or a good five-pound stew and hen. Hens come yet? I'm sure I don't get it to go. Oh, where's Junior? He's out with his papers. Oh, well, maybe Homer took care of everything, huh? Oh, that phone again. I'll get it. Sit down someplace. Well, hurry up. Yes, Mary Anderson. Oh, hello, June. Two dozen. Oh, you mean eggs. Well, we don't have any eggs. Oh, that. Well, the chickens haven't had a chance to lay any yet. Tell her we'll put her on the list. Well, June, I'll call you when we have some. Well, now I don't see why Joe should be so upset about it. Well, just let him wait. Yes, goodbye. Now, you see? See the way things go, Mary? Yes, I know how things go. You meet Joe and promise him eggs and can't deliver. Now, June's ribbing me. Well, let her wait or turn. Why do you tell people that you'll have eggs for them? You'll have to have 500 eggs to fill your egg orders. No, I didn't say for sure. You know, Oliver, getting 25 hens is all right, but you always go overboard. Oh, no, I don't. There'll be plenty of eggs. I'll bet we can go out there right now and pick up 15. Come on, I'll show you. Well, Homer built the coop right. We should start right off with at least a dozen.  Hmm, I don't hear any enthusiasm in there. Generally, hens make quite a racket. Well, maybe it's strange to them. Could be. Well, let's open the door quietly now so we don't scare them off the nest. All right. Now, just a minute. Let's have less noise around the eggory here. Just get home, dear. Yeah, let's see the hens. Okay, but keep quiet. Hmm, I don't see any of them. There aren't any in the nest, Pop. Oliver, what happened? Where are the hens? Oh, I bet I know, Pop. You know what? You see that hole in the wall where they can go in and out? Homer forgot to close it. Oh, I see. A fine thing. Homer never does do anything right. Next time I have any work for someone to do for free, I'll call somebody else. Now, what are we going to do, Oliver? Do? I will round them up. That's what we'll do. Come on, Junior. You go over to Meister's yard and look, and I'll go out here in the alley. And, Mary, you stay here and lock the door after we drive them in. I'll just worry about how to get them back in. Now, you walk along the fence on that side, and don't scare them.  Now, and don't scare them. Come, chick, chick, chick, chick. Come on, chicky. Nice. Chick, chick, chick, chick, chick. Get around and back up them, Junior. They're going in McGuire's gate, Pop.  You get them all mixed up with his. Get out of there, first. I'll get them out. Now, you stay here. Chick, chick, chick, chick, come on. Come on and home, chick.  Out of my yard or I'll flash to one. Well, you've got some of my chickens in here. Oh, I have, huh? It's a new one. Stealing chickens in daylight still. I think that you might do it at night, but... They're my chickens, McGuire, and I want them. I want my hen. You don't scare me, McGuire.  But, brother, I'm getting those hens. Now back to the Anderson family. Well, Oliver has bought 25 hens in order to have his own eggs, but when he found hens in the alley back of his house, he couldn't keep them from running in a neighbor's yard. When he tried to retrieve them, the neighbor threatened to shoot Oliver for stealing chickens. Right now, Oliver is talking to Mary and Junior while Homer Meister, the next door neighbor, sits around looking at the ceiling. McGuire thinks he's going to keep my chickens. He's mistaken. He probably thinks they're his own hens, Oliver. That doesn't make any difference what he thinks. Homer? Huh? What?  Oh, well, now look here, Oliver. I ain't getting mixed up in no shooting. Now you don't shoot. You're just scaring him. Well, what I can't understand is how McGuire got them out of the crate when they're still in it. What's that? Still in the crate? Oh, you must be mistaken, Homer. Oh, no. No, I ain't. No, I ain't. The fellow delivered them to the house and I didn't have the coop ready, so I'll put the whole crate of them in my garage. Oh, wait a minute. The chickens are in your garage? Yep, yep, yep. That's right. I ain't got the fence up yet, so I'm keeping them locked up to get it done. Well, gee whiz, Pop, those weren't our chickens then. Oh, this is a fine time to tell us about the hens, Homer. Well, you never asked me, did you? Dag-nav-it anyhow. Martha yelling at me on one side and you folks driving me to finish that coop on the other? Me or Maya. I don't know where I'd be half the time. Well, this is a fine thing. No wonder those hens went in McGuire's yard. Oliver, you'll have to straighten this out with McGuire. Yeah, well, I'll send a note over by junior. If you can find somebody else to take it, Pop, it'll be all right with me. Oh, scared, huh? Well, we'll fix it somehow. Now, Homer, look, would it be asking too much to get those hens over here and in the garage? Well, Oliver, it's kind of dark. I guess we could put them on the roost. Roost? Put them in the nest. Maybe they'll lay an egg before morning. They've been resting all day. Oh, kiddo-key. I'll go get them. Oliver will help you tuck the men, Homer. Yeah, they can stand some tucking in. They ain't got many feathers. Looks like it'll all stand a sweater of peace. A sweater of peace. I'll show that guy. That McGuire. He can't charge me two prices for eggs. How much did the hens cost, dear? Uh, cost? Well, the fellow let me have him for two dollars a piece. How much would they have been with feathers, Pop? With feathers? Now, look, Junior, this isn't funny. I should say it isn't. We start off with $50 expended and still no eggs. Well, they haven't had a chance yet, have they? I wonder who this could be. Tell them no eggs til noon tomorrow. Oh, Mr. Riley. Uh, come in, Chief. Thanks, Mrs. Anderson. Oh, hi, Chief. Come on in. Sit down. Uh, Anderson, I, uh...  Huh? I gotta take you in. Take him in? Are you serious, Chief? Well, maybe it's for selling eggs without a license. Maybe the black market has complained already or something. No, no, I, uh, I got a warrant here for you, Oliver. And I got my duty to do. Warrant? Gee, what's wrong? Junior, run on out. Yeah, go on. Go on now, dear. Come on, Gee, Mom, I never get in on... Okay, Chief, is this a gag? If it is, it isn't funny. No, it's no gag, Oliver, so help me. No, here's a warrant all signed and regular. Charges, uh, stealing chickens and daylight. McGuire.  I, I gotta take you down. That's my job. You'll, uh, you'll get a fair trial. We've, uh, had a dozen calls and chicken thieves this week. We have to make an example of someone. Ex... No, wait a minute. I didn't steal any chickens. It was all a mistake. Did you or did you not go into his chicken yard and try to entice in beagle coax and otherwise try to persuade his hens to follow you to your yard? I didn't for... Look, here's... Did you or didn't you? Well, uh, yes, I, I was in his yard, but it was a mistake. I'm sorry, Anderson, get your coat. Wait, you can't keep Oliver in jail over a charge like that. Well, I don't want to.  He might be able to get him back on the street till his trial comes up. Gee, jail burning. Oh, now, don't you worry, darling. I'll call our attorney right away. Well, look, don't call Spencer. Well, I still owe him a small bill. He'd be happy to see me stay in. Oh, all right, Oliver. I'll have Mr. Jensen come down. And don't worry now, darling. I'm not. See? I'm smiling. Are they all on the roosts, Homer? Yep, yep. The shore maiden racket. Oh, boy, them hens as well. So am I, Homer. If Jensen doesn't get Oliver out of that jail, I don't know what I'll do. You know, that fellow McGuire should be in there himself. Dirty gypsy. Name-calling won't help, Homer. Not a bit. Oh, gosh, my flashlight went out. Oh, and there's no bulb in the garage either. Well, well, let's get out and lock up then, and the hens will be all right till morning, and I'll feed them till Oliver gets back. Stand right where you are in there. Huh? Who is it? Hey, what's this? I heard my hens are squawking, and I got you red-handed. Now look here, McGuire. Hey, take that flashlight out in my face. And get out of here. You've done enough damage already. I figured you'd try to steal them at night, but what gets me is how you got them out without me seeing you. These aren't your hens. Oh, they ain't. Just look at them. Rhode Island Reds, feathers half gone.  Hey, put down that shotgun, McGuire. I'm holding you both right here, both of you. In one move, buddy, and I'll pull this trigger. I've had enough of this, Mr. McGuire. Those hens are not yours. Oh, still trying to bluff it out, eh? Hey, have your hens got any bands on their eggs? No, no, they ain't. And these ain't neither. Oh, yes, they have. Number two. Look ahead. Ah! Well, that don't prove nothing at all. You could have put them on. Yeah? Well, it so happens them numbers is listed, and the owner's a farmer out of town. Hey, you missed this? The boat this time, McGuire? Dag-nabbit? Well, well, well, no. Maybe you're right. I'm sure sorry I busted in like this. It's too late, Mr. McGuire. The minute I get in the house, I'm swearing out a warrant for your arrest. Yeah, yeah, me too, Dag-nabbit.  No, no, no, wait, wait. You were so anxious to swear out a warrant for Oliver. No, let's see how the big Mr. McGuire takes it. Now you stay right in the house, Junior, and wait for Mother. I'm going down and swear out a warrant for Mr. McGuire. Is Pop coming home with you? Everything goes all right, he will. Okay, Mom, go ahead. I'll stay around. I won't be gone long, honey. Is your father home? Oh, hello, Mrs. Thompson. No, he isn't home. Won't you come in? Thank you. Where is your father? Uh, he's in jail. That's nice. What? What? In jail? Oliver Anderson in jail? Yeah, they came and got him this evening. How utterly unbelievable he is employed by my husband. I suppose now I'll not get my six eggs a day, he promised me. It's going to be a problem, Mrs. Thompson. Well, we'll see if it is. I told Philbert he would have six eggs a day, and he'll get them. Will you, um, will you sell me six of the hens? Well, uh, yeah, I know Pop would be glad to. But if you want six eggs a day, you better take 12 of them. 12? Oh, my goodness, does it take two hens to lay one egg? Gee, I'm sorry, I don't know. I don't get that until the ninth grade. Well, uh, do you think you could, uh, catch them for me? I, uh, guess so if you'd help me.  And with your father in jail, you must be good to your mother.  But I wonder if he'll be able to find something to do after this escapade. Gee, Mrs. Thompson, you mean Mr. Thompson will fire him again? You're too young to understand, my boy. Let's get the chickens and I'll take them home in my car. Mr. Thompson will take it up further with your father. Okay, McGuire, in you go, and I don't want any more back talk. I demand to see my lawyer. I'm just doing my duty, McGuire. Just make yourself comfortable in the bullpen till he comes. You'll, you'll have company. And let's have a quiet now. Mr. McGuire. Anderson, look here.  I ain't done nothing. Ha, neither have I, but I'm in. You know darn well I didn't try to steal any of your chickens. Yes, I know it now, but it's too late. Oh, it is, huh? What are you in for? Well, your wife swore out a warrant for me. She did? Yeah. Good. Huh, what were the charges? She claims I threatened to shoot her. I was only bluffing. I got her told you you can't bluff Mary. Well, look Anderson, can you get her to squash that warrant? Do that and I'll squash yours.  I can only get 30 days for chicken stealing. But for attempted bodily harm it's at least two years. Oh, oh, it'll stand the way it is, my boy. Anderson, can't you do this for me? It ain't fair. You thought it was fair to drag me down here. Oh, come on now. Let's be honest about this. Well, I'll do it only if you apologize publicly. So my boss knows I didn't steal any chickens.  Fine, fine, fine, boys. Quiet, ladies present.  I don't need any help. You'll hear for my husband for this. Mrs. Thompson. Gee, what did you do? I'll steal and chicken. Oh! No. How could you, Mrs. Thompson? You know very well, Oliver Anderson. I wouldn't steal chickens. Well, the officer said he heard the chickens. Stopped your car, and there they were. With all the chicken thieves operating around here. Now, wait, Chief. Maybe I can help out here a bit. I just know if Filbert hears of this, he won't get me that box of nylons. Include me in on this, too, will you? We've got to work something out. Well, okay, okay. Talk fast if it sounds good. Well, who knows? Okay, now wait. First, Maguire retracts his warrant. That I'll do. That I'll do. Right now, Chief. And I'll withdraw our warrant against Maguire. Now, what about you, Mrs. Thompson? What's your story? Well, I went to your house, bought 12 chickens, and was taking them home when I was stopped and brought here to this place.  I most certainly did. Well, then, what do you think, Chief? Uh, well, I think this whole thing is unnecessary. And as long as no one's going to prosecute, I... I guess I'll just have to make out some papers and let you all out. Well, that's the first pleasant word I've heard for an hour. Well, okay, then, uh, we'll see what can be done. And let's have no more trouble over there. Oh, give me a few more cards. What? You drew one, and I have four cards left. My hand had a pair of deuces. Look, Chief, look, look, Chief, if that's Mary, tell her I'll be right home after this next hand. Oh, no, you don't. Not when you're $2 ahead. Well, can I help her to buy a win occasionally? She, if that's my old lady, tell her I'm willing happy for once. Well, don't, don't deal the cards the way I answer this. All right, hold the cards. Chief O'Reilly speaking. This is Menderson come home for just a few minutes. Well, uh, what should Oliver be coming home for? Tell her I'll be home in an hour. Uh, wh-what's wrong at home? One of them laid an egg. My hands laid an egg? Deal me out, deal me out. Tell Mary not to go near the garage. I'll be right home. Don't touch a thing till I get there. The Anderson family is written by Howard Swart, directed by Herb Lytton, and features Dick Lane as Oliver, Louise Arthur as Mary, Walter Tetley as Junior, and Herbert Rawlinson as Homer. Others in the cast were Doug Young and Jacqueline DeWitt. Music by Gordon Kibbe, sound effects by Ray Erlenborn, and your announcer is Ken Peters. The Anderson family is a Hollywood broadcaster's production, transcribed from Hollywood.


Hi, this is Helena Hart from commitmentconnection.com and in this video I wanted to answer a question I received from a woman in our community who wants to know what to say when a man who disappeared comes back. This is such a common situation. It's actually one of the top questions we get in the comment sections of some of our videos so hopefully this will be really helpful for you if this is something you're experiencing yourself. But before I get started, if this is your first time to our channel, be sure to click the button to subscribe to get all of our videos on how to attract the man and the relationship you've always wanted. So like I mentioned, this is something that happens all the time. I certainly experienced it in my past and pretty much every woman I've ever spoken to has had this experience where a man comes on really strong and then disappears for whatever reason and then comes back around again, often like nothing happened. And when I read this question, I was actually reminded of a story from my own past. A long time ago I was dating a guy and he was coming on really strong, pursuing me for a relationship and just setting up dates. He brought me roses and he told me he was falling for me, a lot of really great things. And then all of a sudden we had a date set up for a particular night and when the time for the date came I couldn't get a hold of him. He just dropped off and I didn't hear from him again for about three or four months. And then he just texted me asking if I wanted to meet up for dinner, like nothing had happened. And I know this is something that women are experiencing all the time these days so maybe you can relate. And I've really found that it's what you do when a man shows back up that causes him to want to keep pursuing you and step up and actually be consistent and follow through or causes him to back off again and stay there. And I imagine since you're asking this question, this is a man who you're actually interested in and are wondering what happened and you might even want to consider continuing to date him if he has a good reason why he disappeared. That's usually what I find when women are asking this question. So you have a couple different options here. When a man shows back up, let's say you're not interested in him. You could just delete it or not respond to him. You just write him off as someone who doesn't follow through on what they say they're going to do. But if you're curious as to what happened, there are different things you can do. So when that man texted me and asked if I wanted to meet up for dinner and catch up, I could have just said yes and gone and see what he had to say. But I've really found that you kind of hand people a script almost for how to treat you by the behavior that you accept. So I heard this great quote, what you allow is what will continue. So if I had just done that, I would be sort of teaching him that it's okay for him to disappear and show back up and he can still date me like nothing happened. And I didn't want to do that. So what I said was something like it feels good to hear from you and I'm actually feeling a little confused. Last time we had plans to meet up was a few months ago and I actually didn't hear from you or couldn't get ahold of you. When the time came for our date, I'm just curious as to what's going on. And he immediately replied with your right. I actually owe you an apology and an explanation and I'd really like to do that in person. And I actually did end up meeting up with him and there was something big going on in his life and he mentioned that he really liked me and it was sort of a self-sabotaging thing that caused him to freak out a little bit and disappear. And I've really found that how men handle it when you really say that in a straightforward way, I'm open to meeting up with you again but I'm feeling a little curious as to what happened. I haven't heard from you in a few months or you kind of dropped off there for a few weeks and I was wondering what happened there. You're allowing him to reveal things about himself to you. So if a man did what this man did and he owns up to it and he apologizes and lets you know how things might be different. This time, if you were to give him another chance, that's fantastic. Now it's up to you if you want to give him a chance or not. I know a lot of women might just want to write a man off but of course, things come up from time to time. There are emergencies and we don't always handle situations in the best, most straightforward way, right? So it's up to you what you do from there. If a man apologizes, owns up to it and offers you an explanation that feels okay to you. Or another option is that a man might minimize what happened or get defensive or blame you or something like that. If a man does that, if he minimizes it or tries to deflect or make you feel like it's not a big deal. I would say that's not a man who's going to be a good relationship partner to you. So I really want to invite straightforward direct communication. You don't want to blame him or make him wrong but just come from a place of curiosity. I wouldn't take it personally or have a lot of like emotional charge around it. Just come from a place where you're curious. Like, I'm open to meeting up with you again or I'm open to talking but I was really kind of curious as to what happened. Haven't heard from you in a little while and see what he says from there. His answer to that and his response will really give you a lot of information about what kind of guy he is and how he handles situations like this, where you don't see eye to eye. So I hope that was helpful for you. That's what I have for today on what to say to a guy when he disappears and then comes back. Of course, every situation is different. So you want to kind of tailor this to your unique situation. But I love hearing from you. Feel free to type in your thoughts and experiences with this. I hope this was helpful and I will see you in the next video. Thanks for watching and if you'd like to discover exactly what to say and do to get the man and relationship you've always wanted, click the button on the right side of this video to visit our website. And I will talk to you soon.


the Yankees have been talking about landing Andrew McCutcheon, our buddy Joel Sherman from the New York Post saying, here Yankees are working to try and finalize the deal with the Giants for McCutcheon. Not done yet. Avital, Avalino would be part of the return for San Francisco. Joel later tweeted that it would be two prospects for McCutcheon. And then Buster Olney of ESPN just tweeting this, Yankees get McCutcheon via a source. So Jack Curry is now standing by. He is outside the Yankees clubhouse. Jack, what can you tell us about the McCutcheon deal? Well, the rumor started circulating about a half an hour ago. I believe Joel Sherman of the New York Post was the first to report it. And you have Buster Olney of ESPN saying that it's a done deal now. So I think we can assume that Andrew McCutcheon is now a Yankee. And we've talked about this a lot, guys. We talked about it in the broadcast tonight with the Yankees trying to add an outfielder. When I asked Brian Cashman about this about a week ago, he talked about how some of the prices were higher than what the Yankees were willing to go to. But I think it's become readily apparent that they need some help in the outfield. And you look at McCutcheon, is he the same player he was back in his Pittsburgh days where one year he had 194 hits and he was a perennial 300 hitter. He's not that hitter, but he's a very reliable player. And he's 255 this year with a 357 on base percentage. 15 homers, 55 runs about it. And this is a player who can help the Yankees immediately. By the way, Jack, do you think this is also them at the very least hedging the bet that maybe Aaron Judge is a little further away now than they expected? I think it is. I mean, when we spoke to Aaron Boone today about Aaron Judge, he said that he has still not gripped a bat. He has still not tried to swing a bat. Now, when you look at the number of games that Judge has already missed, he has already been down for 33 games and still hasn't swung a bat. If you're the Yankees, you're trying to you're trying to add reinforcements. We know Sanchez is coming back and will be activated on Saturday, but in the outfield they've been looking for help. No offense to Shane Robinson, but they never expected Shane Robinson to get the number of at bats that he has gotten. This is a guy who has gotten about 50 at bats. So I think you plug in someone like McCutcheon and you bring yourself a much more professional hitter and you make yourselves better immediately when you add McCutcheon to the lineup. Jack, you've talked so much about the Yankees being disciplined, getting under that luxury tax number. I'm assuming this move will stay the course with that. Yeah, our crack researcher, Jeff Kwagliata, is on that. He told me that McCutcheon's addition would be a shade over two million dollars. We're looking at about two and a quarter million dollars. So I think that was obviously a factor flash in the Yankees. Now, I wanted to go above that luxury tax. They've been beneath it until almost September. They're not going to go above it now. So I think they're trying to make smart, practical decisions to make themselves better and we'll know more about Judge's situation as we move forward. But when you add McCutcheon, you're adding a player who, let's be honest about it, he's a better player than Shane Robinson. And Shane Robinson has been getting a lot of starts for the Yankees lately. And Jack, final thing on McCutcheon, you're also adding a veteran player from a losing team right now that comes to a team that's right in the fray and battling for a wild card spot and what they hope eventually will be a division title. How much can a guy


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Greetings and welcome. My name is Bruce Kane, and I'm the director of Stanford's Bill Lane Center for the American West. And I'm also a professor of political science and a pre-core fellow. Thank you for joining us today. Today's virtual briefing will highlight key findings from a new joint study by researchers at the Stanford Pre-core Institute and MIT's center, the Abdul Latif Jamoul Food and Water Systems Lab at MIT, that reassesses the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant's potential value in helping California meet its increasing challenges of climate change by providing clean, safe, and reliable electricity, water, and hydrogen fuel for Californians. To put the topic of Diablo Canyon in a broader context of transitioning to a clean energy future, we've asked two distinguished scientists from Stanford who both served in the Obama administration to make some brief remarks first before moving to the report itself. So first, please join me in welcoming Stanford professor of physics and former US Secretary of Energy, Stephen Chu. Stephen. Yeah, thank you. I think my remarks can be very brief. We are not in a position in the near-term future to go to 100% renewable energy, and there will be times when the wind doesn't blow, the sun doesn't shine, and we will need some power that we can actually turn on this patch at will. And that leaves two choices, either fossil fuel or nuclear. And if you use fossil fuel, then you need to capture as much of the carbon as possible. And if you use fossil fuel, you can capture as much of the carbon as possible. So I believe that nuclear presents a very good option, especially nuclear power plants that have been built. The CAPEX has been invested. And in particular Diablo Canyon, a lot of the upgrades were made in anticipation for applying for a 20-year extension, and the regulatory agency gave every belief that they would look favorably upon an application. The distressing thing is in 2018, PG&E pulled the application. When that happened, I called up people at PG&E and they just said that the community attitude was that there were being pressured to turn off the nuclear power plant. In addition, there were other things, for example, water intake, new regulations, and other things, heat cooling, that they said looked too hard and they were just going to close it down. And this new report says that you can have, use other things for the nuclear reactors, desalinization, things of that nature, that shed new light on the economic viability of this. But also I just want to conclude by saying, in the examples of countries that have turned off their nuclear power, with perhaps the hope of some, that you would just go to more renewable energy, clean energy like solar and wind, the experience in Japan, the experience in Germany is, that's not what happened. They built more fossil fuel plants that were more carbon emissions. And so we should take note of the earlier examples of other countries doing this and consider again very strongly, in order to come back, climate change in the best possible way, I think nuclear power for the next extension period is something that we should really consider and ask PG&E to reconsider. So with that, I'll stop. Again, next we turn to Arun Majundar, who is a professor in the engineering school and was undersecretary of energy in the Obama administration. Well, thank you, Bruce. And first of all, let me congratulate the authors, both at MIT as well as at Stanford for putting this report together. And I just want to place this, and I want to build on what Steve said and also want to place this report on a broader context of nuclear. We are seeing that nuclear, the current plans of nuclear plants are under threat because of what is called a business model of nuclear because of the fact that the electricity prices of the wholesale market are reducing because of renewables being integrated, cheap natural gas, et cetera. And thereby it is difficult to sustain nuclear. Well, that's the argument. I think this report, first of all, talks about nuclear as an electricity source itself and says that this is a viable approach to doing so. But it also provides the broader business model context of can it be used to do other things? And it shows that you can potentially produce hydrogen at $2 a kilogram and potentially cheaper in the future and also look at desalination and address water needs, which as California and many other places around the world are going to face. And it also does the extent of a combination of things and optimize it. And I would really encourage people who are interested in the subject to read this report. I just think that this is, while that is fantastic, it also lays out the challenges, et cetera, but also lays out the opportunities. And I think it's very important to look at those opportunities, especially as Steve mentioned, there's a sunken cost already there as opposed to building new things and that has its own time scale, et cetera. I want to point out one more opportunity that perhaps could be considered in the future by the team and by others. If you're putting this, placing this in the context of decarbonizing an economy, which as the report correctly pointed out in California, that goal is 2045, it is more than electricity. The most difficult thing to decarbonize is industrial heat, process heat. And nuclear in its conversion from heat to electricity takes a hit about, you know, the efficiency is about 30 to 35%. If the electricity is $40 a megawatt hour, the heat is much cheaper. And I think it's very important to use the heat for other things. And in the reports pointed out, but there are other applications of industrial heat which cannot be forgotten. For example, if you look at the industry of steel and cement making, yes, you require high temperature heat, but if the low temperature heat can be provided by nuclear, it reduces a tremendous amount of fossil fuel use if you have to and thereby reduces the burden of carbon capture. One of the most difficult things, and we're now realizing that you cannot get to net zero economy without negative emissions. And if you look at the negative emissions technology of capturing CO2 from the atmosphere, 90% of the energy that you have is heat. And if you have a low carbon, zero carbon source of heat and use it for direct air capture atmospheric removal of CO2, and those plans can be placed anywhere, I think that's a huge opportunity that should not be missed out. And so if California is thinking of trying to make a net zero economy and it has plans and it can be the leader of CO2, atmospheric removal of CO2, this is the opportunity to do that. So let me also place that in the context of the broader context of what the United States needs and what the world needs. Thank you very much. And I just again want to congratulate the authors of the report for laying it out in both the challenges as well as the opportunities. Thank you very much, Arun. So next, we want to turn to the study itself. And we have four speakers. We will start with Jacobo Bonjono. And he will hand it off to EJ Bake and MIT professor of water, John Leanhard. And then finally, a senior consultant, a lucid, a candlest, Justin Aborn. So Jacobo, it's your turn. Thank you, Bruce. I hope everybody can hear me clearly. Jacobo Bonjono, professor of nuclear science and engineering and MIT also director of the Center for Advanced Surferology study, systems, excuse me, and one of the co-PI's of the principal investigators of the study. So I'm going to start by thanking the free court center and professors, K. Jo and Nizhundar, for hosting our presentation today. My team at MIT and Stanford is passionate about energy, technology, and environment. And we can't think of a better way to present the findings of our study. The study itself started a little bit over a year ago at the initiative of myself, professor of cell advancement at Stanford University. And we decided to title an assessment of the Diablo Canyon nuclear plant for zero-carbon electricity, salination, and hydrogen production. We're going to share the screen so you can see the slides that we'll use to guide the discussion. All right. So first a few words about background motivation for the study if you're attending this webinar. Most likely you're familiar with the history of Diablo Canyon, but it's useful for recap. So in January 2018, the California Public Utilities Commission approved a multi-party settlement shut down Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant upon expiration of the operating license of the second unit, which is in 2025. First unit license expires in 2024. At the moment Diablo Canyon provides about 8% of California's in-state electricity production that translates to 15% of its carbon-free electricity production. In its decision back in 2018, the commission stated that the plant was not cost-effective to continue in operation, that it was not needed for system reliability and that its value for using greenhouse gas emissions wasn't clear. So this is back 2018. Now fast forward three and a half years and things have changed. There have been some new opportunities and some new challenges. In aggregate it is these opportunities and these challenges that have led the team of Stanford University and Massachusetts Institute of Technology to re-examine the potential value of Diablo Canyon in addressing some of the important challenges that California is facing in the coming decades. So what has changed since 2018? Several things. First and foremost, the properly aggressive decarbonization targets that the state of California has set for itself over the next few decades. These are embodied by Senate Bill 100 and executive order B-5518. There has also been a variety of studies including a few at MIT and Stanford offering the need for clean, firm, despatchable, zero carbon energy capacity of the type that can be provided by the power plants like Diablo Canyon. The intention here of course is to help in the decarbonization of the electricity grid. There have been some reliability challenges in the Kaizong service here and according on the electric grid as exemplified at Brownhouse in 2020 and other occurrences. There is a long, prolonged, as you say, severe drought that is putting a lot of areas in the state that we have a shortage of fresh water. There is also a desire to preserve public land for future generations. This is embodied by the 30x30 executive order and last but not least, a very long review and examination of the seismic hazards at Diablo Canyon. The U.S. took the regulatory commission and concluded that Diablo Canyon can stand even the most severe earthquakes that can occur at that particular site. One thing I want to point out that is a very important piece of information and background is the funding for the study was all from the Federal University for resources and donations. I would like to point out that there is a lot of information that can be provided or accept any money from industry for the study. This is for an independent MIT at Stanford University. A few words about my team. I already mentioned Professor Sally Benson. She is a professor of energy resources engineering at Stanford. She currently has a position in the Obama, excuse me, in the environment administration. She is going to present her findings in a few minutes. On the MIT side, along with myself, Professor John Liener, the Abdul Latif Jamil Professor of Water and Mechanical Engineering is our water desalination expert. Dr. John Parsons, a senior lecturer in the MIT Sloan School of Management is our go-to person for finances and then two very capable PhD students working primarily with Professor Liener for water desalination, and quantum weight. And on the specific question of hydrogen generation at the end of the canyon, we were joined by Justi Haber who is a senior consultant at the University campus. All right.  So we looked at essentially for product streams or revenue streams. I think about this as four different modes of operation for the canyon. The first is the most obvious is what the double canyon has been doing for the past 35 years, essentially producing low carbon dispatchable electricity for the grid. The question here is what would be the potential contribution of the other canyon to that mission if it was allowed to operate beyond the 2025. The second question was about the potential for the other canyon to produce low cost zero carbon freshwater and a desalination plant that would be co-located with the plant itself. So one way to produce freshwater from seawater is a so called reverse osmosis process which essentially pushes seawater from membranes and separates salinity from the water that is used. That process requires electricity which of course the other canyon can provide that electricity is carbon free then the freshwater that is produced also carbon free. The third product stream is hydrogen as California seeks to decarbonize its transportation sector there are essentially two options. Either the transportation sector is electrified in which case there is going to be a need for a much higher capacity or power capacity on the grid or you can go with fuel cell vehicles and those fuel cells require hydrogen as fuel, hydrogen is not a primary energy source it has to be produced on something else. One way to do it is to electrolyze water to break the molecule of H2O and get hydrogen that way. That process which is called electrolysis can be assisted by heat but primarily requires electricity again if that electricity input is carbon free then the hydrogen that is produced is also carbon free. And then last what we call polygeneration which is think about it as basically a mixture of the above modes. In this scenario the would operate always at full power and the power output of the plant would be triaged effectively, it would be diverted at different times of the day or different time of the years towards sometimes grid electricity, sometimes after generation and sometimes water desalination. In all these analyses for all these different scenarios my team looked at or accounted for the operation maintenance and fuel cost associated with the daily operation of the applicant as well as the additional capital cost required to meet the California regulations for protection of marine life that mostly translates to the installment of the new intake structure that would serve the nuclear power plant and the desalination plant and hydro plant should those plants also be co-located as well as the cost modifications to the plant and other facilities needed for the production of hydrogen and salinated water so we think that we have accounted for essentially all the cost associated with what we're about to present here. That's a scope of work, I'm going to give you some top-line conclusions and my colleagues will jump in with their own slide a little bit more detail about the assumptions, the methodologies and also the interpretation of the data, excuse me the results that I'm just simply going to mention here. So the first top-line conclusion is about electricity if the Ablo canyon license was extended by 10 years from 2035 it would result in a reduction of California power sector carbon emissions by more than 10% annually with respect to 2017 levels and that mostly would come from their reduced reliance on natural gas which would be part of the generation mix that would replace the Ablo canyon if it was shut down. Now the analysis that we do also allows for quantification of the savings in terms of power system costs associated with different scenarios and scenario where the Ablo canyon is contained in operation we basically realize or there are $2.6 billion in savings in power system costs between 2025 and 2035 and because it is firm capacity dispatchable capacity would bolster the system ability to mitigate run-outs and we had sort of an example in August 2020 not just the run-outs but also the ability of the Ablo canyon to operate reliably throughout that meaning crisis. If the license was extended for the Ablo canyon was extended in additional 10 years so from 2025 to 2045 then the value of the Ablo canyon becomes even higher that's because it's during that second decade that the drive towards decarbonization makes clean firm dispatchable capacity even more valuable. So our analysis suggests that during that period the Ablo canyon saved up to $21 billion in power system costs and importantly spare 90,000 acres of land from use for generation production primarily solar portable tank panels while meeting coastal protection requirements that's the intake question that we're going to have. The second pipeline conclusion is about desalination we look at four different sizes of desalination plants that could be co-located at the Ablo canyon site using part or whole of the power output from the power point. The smallest size it's actually a fairly large desalination plant size in absolute terms comparable to the existing desalination plant in operation and house bed further down the post and that would produce a volume of water that would be sufficient to alleviate some of the water shortages that you see particularly in the central post. If you were to go to a much much larger desalination plant one of the options that we looked at that would use the whole power output of the Ablo canyon then the amount of water produced would be truly enormous and it would actually exceed the volume that is expected from the proposed delta convenience project but that is significantly lower in the cost than Professor linear who will give you the details about this particular analysis. Popline conclusion about hydrogen a co-located hydrogen plant would have significant synergies with the Ablo plant in terms of water feed as well as cheap electricity which is supplied directly by the nuclear power plant it would use heat assisted electrolysis and it would produce a very large amount of hydrogen of more than 110,000 tons per year which is a significant fraction of the projected demand of California demand for hydrogen and it would do so at a significantly lower cost roughly half of the alternative which would be hydrogen produced from solar and wind power from the grid. And last but not least the polygeneration approach in this case as I said earlier it's sort of a mix and match of the above product streams and the revenue stream and in this case we were able to quantify the effective value of the Ablo canyon in terms of dollars per megawatt hour of electricity generator and this polygeneration mode acts as a little bit of a multiplier so we estimate that when it's done properly this sort of triaging accuracy for the pre-different product streams it could actually increase the value of the Ablo canyon in terms of dollars per megawatt hour by over 50%. Now an important point I want to make here before passing the comment to my colleagues here is while this is not intended to be a definitive study the conclusions from all these analysis in our opinion were in further consideration on extending the life of the Ablo canyon plant in 2025. We seek here to sort of start the debate not to end the debate but again our analysis are pretty compelling in our opinion. So with that let me stop and Ej I think you are next. Thank you Jacopo. Next slide please. Great. So for the analysis for the electricity sector we utilize a very detailed capacity and expansion capacity expansion and dispatch model and this is a model that has previously been utilized to model California energy policy. For those of you who may not be as familiar detailed capacity expansion and dispatch model try to find the lowest cost system while taking into consideration California's future policy goals future load growth as well as developing technology prices and it's very much similar to the model that's utilized for California long-term integrated resource planning process. And I want to emphasize that when I say system costs today it's not only taking into consideration the investment cost that's needed to invest in and build capacity but also the corresponding annual operating costs and this model in particular herbs we actually simulate all 8,760 hours in a given year to ensure that whatever system is designed and built maintains reliability for that model so it's quite a robust model that we're working with. And so with this model we model California's future energy systems through 2030 and I want to mention again that Senate Bill 100 mandates a 60% renewable portfolio standard in California in 2030 and that's reflected in the model runs here. And what we find is that even assuming rapid and unconstrained build out of renewable energy resources we find that the continued operation of Diablo Canyon has the potential to significantly reduce California's use of natural gas for electricity production by approximately 10 terawatt hours per year. And just to provide some context that's more than the output of the state's older gas peaker and once through cooling units that operated in 2018. And of course by reducing the reliance on natural gas within the state program can reduce to California carbon emissions by an average of 7 million tons of CO2 per year which is approximately an 11% reduction from the electricity sector relative to 2017. Next slide please. And so with that we find that maintaining Diablo Canyon can actually save total system costs of approximately $2.6 billion in the decadal period between 2025 and 2035. And I really want to emphasize this has been brought up by Arun, Steve and Yakapo before really the importance of clean firm electric capacity and its value especially during electric reliability events such as that happened in August of 2020. And to provide some context in August 2020 that the shortage of the state experience was on the order of approximately a gigawatt. And if Diablo Canyon weren't online that would have grown to more than 3 gigawatts so it's quite a capacity of clean firm dispatchable resource that we're discussing today. Next slide please. Finally, we also modeled a more long-term scenario that assumed that California would reach a net zero carbon grid by 2045 consistent with SB100 and the executive order B5518. And what we find is that even assuming really that the setting of new renewable resources was unconstrained by any land use considerations we found that keeping Diablo Canyon saves the state a total of approximately 15 to 16 billion dollars between 2025 and 2050. And we also find that the system with Diablo Canyon would avoid the need for 18 gigawatts of solar PV to ensure reliable electricity generation. And that 18 gigawatts of solar PV could spare about 90,000 acres of land and on the right side what we've done is shown 90,000 acres relative to the Bay Area here today. So it's quite a large amount of land that we'd be saving. Now I want to make sure to mention that within the report we also consider a wide range of other sensitivities so please feel free to go into there for more details but I just want to share one more scenario here and that is if siting of new PV were constrained by land use considerations to approximately 60 gigawatts which is consistent with historic annual deployment rates saving from Diablo Canyon would of course increase to up to 21 billion dollars and with that I'll pass it on to John. So we looked at desalination at Diablo Canyon because there are ample supplies of both electricity and intake water capacity. The plant is on the coast. We found that Diablo Canyon could be a powerful driver of low cost desalination potentially serving not simply urban users but industrial and agricultural users as well. In particular we found that plant situated at Diablo Canyon would potentially have costs that are about half as much as a comparable plant such as Carlsbad which is stand alone and taking power from the grid using its own infrastructure. In fact you can build much larger plants than Carlsbad if you use all of the capacity, the electrical capacity of the plant and so we modeled four different sizes one that was 10 to 20 times that size and another that was up to 100 times the size of the Carlsbad plant. The charts on the right hand side of the screen show our calculations in blue. These are water capacities and acre feet per year so the Diablo Canyon option one is the Carlsbad size plant in the upper frame. We're comparing that here, that productivity to the annual shortfall in the coastal branch of the California aqueduct. In fact it's a bit larger and we're also comparing it to the central coast annual groundwater overdraft which is comparable in size. In the lower frame you can see the full range of plants that we've been looking at option one, two, three and four. Four is a mega plant it would be about 20 times the size of the largest plant that currently exists in the world. And these are compared to the Central Valley Projects annual shortfall, the State Water Projects annual shortfall, San Joaquin Valley annual overdraft and you can see that plants of varying sizes built at Diablo Canyon could have a very significant impact on offsetting these shortfalls. In addition you can see in the magenta column the proposed delta conveyance project the high volume scenario and what we observe is that the Diablo Canyon plant could provide comparable volumes of water in fact at about half the investment cost and without the associated disruption to the Sacramento River Delta. Next slide. Our cost our cost savings arrives principally from two factors at smaller scales we expect a cheaper price of electricity because we do not have the transmission charges we are right at the plant you don't have to send the electricity out over the grid. Secondly because we would be sharing taking advantage of the intake and outfall of the existing power plant those capital costs would not have to be laid onto the desalination plant and so we think that we have savings in both domains you can see that large scale at Diablo Canyon and the second column in the table comes out with a water price of about 1200 per acre foot using the same cost estimates the same methodology the Carlsbad plant would have a price of 2200 per acre foot and if we want to mega scale at Diablo Canyon the price could be even lower perhaps less than $1000 an acre foot this is very competitive when the water market is highly stressed in California so we think that the large plants may have additional economies of scale they are so large that it takes some effort to actually figure out what those numbers would look like but one thing that's very important to stress is that this desalination technology is effectively off the shelf plants of this type exist in California already they exist all around the world the largest desalination plants in the world many of the largest ones take advantage of this technology so it is very well established and well known and I will hand it off to the next speaker hi this is Justin Aborn I've worked on the hydrogen and polygeneration sections of this report we analyzed hydrogen production at Diablo Canyon hydrogen a very valuable energy commodity and the size of the plant we analyzed was based on two things one the forecast of the California Energy Commission hydrogen consumption forecast and the 110 million kilogram per year plant that we selected is either 3% to or to 10% of the projected consumption depending on whether you use a high or a low forecast for the hydrogen consumption in California and as has been mentioned earlier in this presentation the production of hydrogen is with a companion nuclear power plant and desalination plant is especially helpful because of the water source of the hydrogen and electricity is the primary expense of producing hydrogen by electrolysis and as well the heat steam available in the nuclear steam heat also improves hydrogen production and we find that the cost can range between two to two and a half dollars a kilogram which is a very competitive price on the graph at right this we compare the Diablo Canyon projections the range from two to two and a half dollars is in the center and on the left that compares with steam methane reformation with carbon sequestration and that's the price range on the left and on the right is hydrogen produced using purely renewable sources with a 30% capacity factor which actually makes that electricity fairly expensive why don't we go ahead to the next line and this discusses the poly generation mode of operating the three elements of Diablo Canyon electricity hydrogen and desalination and the analysis divided up the electricity produced by Diablo Canyon in approximately 60% being sold as electricity or ancillary services 20% being sold as water and 20% being sold as hydrogen and we found that just looking at the revenue that would be accessed by selling those commodities we find that $70 per megawatt hour is the sort of earnings and a very significant fraction of that was water sales but that $70 per megawatt hour of revenue compares very favorably to the projected cost per megawatt hour of $54 per megawatt hour and depending on how prices for water and hydrogen evolve the earnings per megawatt hour at Diablo Canyon could be much higher than that $70 and $82 to $100 a megawatt hour is within the range of believability and with that I will pass on to the next presenter which I think is back to me. A major issue in the process that led the decision to shut down Diablo Canyon was the ability of the plant to cope with California water quality control policy any industrial installation that uses seawater or cooling or other purchases is expected in California to effectively reduce drastically the destruction of marine life in the form of fish eggs and larvae by 93%. There are two fundamentally two approaches here either one reduces the intake for a by 93% and that for a power plant like Diablo Canyon might mean switching from one stroke cooling to for example cooling power. We looked at in 2014 a study by Bechtel that looked at the cost and visibility of those cooling powers and concluded it would be very very expensive and the environmental impact would be otherwise that's approach number one approach number two is to come up with a maintaining the same flow rate of seawater for the plant but reduce the destruction of marine life in training and impingement of marine life for the so as part of our study we spent a great deal of time identifying and examining alternative technologies that could accomplish that objective and the one that we focus on is shown here and essentially it's a mechanical brush clean wet fire screen that would be located offshore and then connected to the condenser with a power plant with an underground panel. The screens are such that they rotate and they rotate against some mechanical some brushes that essentially keep them clean and this is absolutely crucial because you want to maintain the passages or the slits where the water goes through free of any obstruction the velocity of the water basically remain nice and low and just to get quantitative the size of the mesh that we selected here is of the order of one millimeter and the slit velocity is of the order of 0.5 feet per second and those are consistently the expectations of the regulations in California but this particular technology is actually not new it's been used widely in the United States to flash water and see water implications it's currently being considered for Hunting Beach desalination plant which is not in operation yet and is currently being tested for the Notre Dame desalination plant that was mentioned a few minutes ago also along the coast of California. If this technology was adopted for Diablo Canyon there would need to be a test done of the effectiveness of this technology environment at the Diablo Canyon site. We work with a California-based company that actually commercializes the technology, and together we did a techno-economic feasibility study and obtained a quote that is accounted for, is integrating in our cost assessment. So we think, bottom line, there is a solution to the intake problem, and it's a solution that is the portable, effective, consistent with California regulations. All right, so let me take this to the finish line here. We have focused primarily on the value of Diablo Canyon. There is no shortage of points of challenges if, in fact, decision is made to extend the license of the plant. First, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has to issue that license extension. The NRC typically takes between a year and a half to two years to do that review. It's become favorable scheme. All but Diablo Canyon, the reactors in the United States, have obtained actually a license extension for 46 years. Some are going from 62 to 80 years. But that process has to take place again for Diablo Canyon. And we think reasonably, realistically, the application for the license extension ought to be resubmitted before mid of 2023 for the NRC to be able to complete in time. The good news is that NRC allows the plant to operate pending review of the application. The second challenge, of course, is to obtain approval for any engineered water intake system that I just described, as well as for the licensing of the brine discharge from the desalination process if a new outfall is warranted for the different size of the desalination plants. Number three, approval for construction, obligation, or distributed desalination plants and hydrogen electrolysis facilities that we discuss, including the associated pipes and transmission wires. We know very well the climate in California around nuclear is highly controversial. So there will be stakeholders or park hosts of sediment into the closure of the plant that would need to be engaged. And there is sort of environmental opposition in principle among some to the use of nuclear energy in any form or for any purpose. A very interesting and important question is what would be the ownership and operation of the plant going forward? We did not spend a lot of time on this in our study. There are a few options that seem obvious, but can you continue to be the owner and operator or a self-contracted different company to run it, or a state that even they own ownership and self-contracted company to run it? Once again, this study was not intended to be and should not be considered a definitive analysis of the benefits and trade-offs that we have discussed so far. We want to start a debate, but once again, the findings are sufficiently compelling, in our opinion, to warrant that debate to actually start. And so we basically offered this information to the important stakeholders in California. We hope that that debate will differ as long as I think both should step to you. Yeah, well, we have a few minutes. We finished a little early. Congratulations to the MIT team for being so succinct. But, Yacobo, I think maybe we could take a few minutes to do something that I know you've analyzed, which is the safety considerations of the nuclear plant, given where it's located. And perhaps you could shed some light on that in our extra time here. Thanks for asking that question. And I'm going to use a, maybe a backup slide here, share again. So the safety record of deblocane is actually very, very strong over the past three decades. The key safety-related question for this particular plant is the seismic hazard. We know that deblocane, first of all, California in general is a highly seismic region. And deblocane in particular is built relatively close to certain fault lines. So in the way called the Tsushima accident in 2011, the accident that took place in Japan, the NRC reviewed the deblocane's ability to withstand external events. That's jargon that we use to indicate things like earthquakes, tsunamis, floods, tornadoes, wildfires, hurricanes, as well as terrorist attacks of exceptional, rare, and severe magnitude. Now, the NRC spent literally at this point nine years with their state-of-the-art seismic anthropologists. And the deblocane was subject to a series of new evaluations, both generic, which means really similar to all other of the power plants in the United States, and some specific, specific to deblocane and cycle. So for example, you mentioned, deblocane is close to various faults. And at the same time, deblocane is a very high elevation. So for example, the concerns related to floods are greatly indicated. So at the end of that long process, the NRC conclusion, which is embodied by a letter issued just a little bit over a year ago, is that the existing seismic capacity or effective block protection of deblocane will address the unbounded evaluated hazards. And that's sort of technical language that says deblocane was basically designed and built and even the rarest and strongest perforates that are physically possible at the site. And further, the staff confirmed that the conclusions in the various staff assessments continue to support the determination that no further regulatory actions are required for deblocane. In other words, there is no need for additional retrofits and design modifications to address the seismic hazard. That's on the prevention side. In terms of mitigation, as an additional level of protection, all nuclear plants in the United States deblocane included have been actually retrofitted with special equipment and procedures that are called FLEX. So FLEX is a set of equipment and procedures that are meant to ensure effectively reliable and cooling of the reactor core, which is one of the key nuclear safety functions and all the spin fuel pool under hypothetical scenario in which all the engineer safety systems have been disabled by a severe external event. In the last but not least, of course, like all other nuclear power plants, YACOBOS's compliance with this post-proximal rules is subject to continuous monitoring by the NRC and what they call the reactor of the site process. So in a nutshell, we think that both the safety record as well as the newly conducted evaluations for YACOBOS canyon are both very positive. Thanks for answering the questions. YACOBOS, let me ask you one other because I think we still have a few minutes. I think the concept of polygeneration is not something that you hear frequently in the discussion. So when you think of this facility, it already has, does it not a desal plant that's attached to it, how could you do all three things? Is it when we think of polygeneration and we thinking of it as providing power to the grid, or hydrogen facility and also a desal or are we thinking that you have to choose a couple of these out of the three? I'm going to add Justin to answer this one since it began out. And the notion that we analyzed is the idea of operating all three at once. And that is the analysis that the revenue section of the report took up there. And as I mentioned about 60% of the production of Diablo Canyon is divided up according to the electricity production it's capable of. So you take the total number of megawatt hours that the plant can produce and approximately 60% of that production is allocated to electricity products, whether it be energy or ancillary services for the grid. And the next 22 sets of 20%, 20% approximately to producing hydrogen and 20% approximately to producing water. Yes, so 20% of the electricity driving driving the desalination plant. It's that allocation and the model and that what the report presents is a steady allocation between those three products throughout at its higher year. And the 20% of water goes to which of the different scenarios? How much water would that produce? And the 20% figure reflects option two of the four different options of desalination plant outline. Okay, well, very good. As we in California know the issues of water are very severe on the central coast. So it can either go to the central valley or the central coast, but the central coast is actually cut off from some of the state water projects. So it definitely would be valuable. Well, I think at this point we've had a very good report. Let me just remind people that there is a media Q and A that starts at 130. But more importantly, any people who are interested in the report ought to download it. They were only given a short period of time to present a very detailed report with very thoughtful suggestions in it. So we really recommend that if you're interested in this that you download the report and take a look at it. In the meantime, we certainly want to thank all the people that helped to put this together, the various institutes and our speakers, and certainly to Arun and Steve for taking time out in their busy schedules to put this very important issue into the context. And so with that, I will close off the meeting and we will prepare for the media Q and A that we'll follow in a few minutes. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.


Two men walk into the Octagon, only one will walk out. Well, unless you count the referee, and the big old ballet happens at the end of the fight, you've got to count that too. Hello, I'm Betty St. LeBeau, and this is Octagon St. LeBeau. I do the show because I have an obvious fever. I'm not someone who knows a lot about MMA, but I've been studying it for a year now, and I'm such a fan, I totally adore this sport. It is everything, honor, glory, heartache, and glory. Also, the warriors that I study and admire, they're all about the fight.  Now, this particular show will focus on the fact that I think it was week four last. It was International Fight Week, UFC's International Fight Week, so it was very, very exciting. And ever since last year, I kind of have been looking at some of the matches, and I've been bored one bit, but the Amanda Nunes and Holly Home Fight was very surprising, very stunning. Both these ladies had taken out Ronda Rilesi. Amanda was fighting Holly. Holly was sort of the last person to cement Amanda's legendary status as both Ben and Wade, and I want to say Walter Reed, but it's not Ben and Wade, and I should better listen. Let me check out my notes to make sure. Amanda is both the featherweight champion and the bantamweight. She's both the bantamweight champion and the featherweight champion. She has made history by not only having both those titles, she is now one of the greatest fighters that have ever come around, especially in modern times that we know of. So let's start out with some pound-for-poundage statistics first, and then we're going to go to the two fights I wanted to discuss. So, pound-for-pound featherweight division. The champ is Max Holloway. We'll start from number 15, and then we'll go up to number one. So, from 15 to 1, Nisse Bectic, Ryan Hall, Shane Burgos, Arnold Allen, Calvin Qatar, Renato Modicano, Josh Emmett, Jeremy Stevens, Yael Rodriguez, Chan Senyum, Zebette Nago-Shoklu, Frankie Edka, Jose Aldo, Ryan Otega, Alexander Volkanovsky, and the champ is Max Holloway. I especially like the featherweight division. They seem very interesting, and it seems like the lower weight divisions, they catch my eye. In the welterweight division, we're going to start from the bottom up. Vincente Lucca is number 15, Eliza De Santos, Neil Magney, Leon Edwards, Damian Maya, Robbie Lauer, Ben Astrum, Santiago Ponson de Vivo, Anthony Pettis, Stephen Thompson, Darren Till, Raphael Los Angeles, Jorge Macedol, Kobe Calvington, Tyron Woodley, and Kamal Usman is the champ. This division, they are very visible to me. I like all their styles. Stephen Thompson's nickname is Wonder Boy. Robbie Lauer had an intense historical fight with Roy McDonald in catch on YouTube. I tried to watch that fight. Please check out the welterweight division when you can. Lightweight champ. This is the lightweight division. The champ is could be, of course, but we're going to start from number 15 again. James Vick, Islam Makovchev, Alexander Hernandez, Gregor Gilebsi, Charles Lodiera, Paul Felder, Anthony Pettis, Kevin Lee, Edson Barbosa, Alicante, Justin Gagey, Don Cironi, Conor McGregor, Tony Ferguson, and Dustin Poirier. A lot of my favorite fighters are in the lightweight division and the champ is could be Noma Gadoff. They're incredible. Incredible. And the way that they all handle Mike is something too. At first I thought Mr. Woodley was a little sick on the Mike, but I think that he's just getting used to doing that. But these guys, the way they fight, incredible. So, featherweight. I think I just did that, right? Well, let's just do it again just in case I didn't. Featherweight, starting from 15. Nersay Bechtek, Ryan Hall, Shane Burgos, oh yeah, we did it. Okay, so the champ there is Max Holloway. Oh, now I know why I'm looking at that list again. Max Holloway and Brian Ortega had the most intense. They had an incredible intense fight. Brian Ortega is just that tough. He got all marked up. Max Holloway didn't look like he had a scratch on him. That fight happened a couple months ago. Something I won't forget at the time of the tournament. That's why I went back to that list. Okay, so let's check out the ladies division. The two divisions that I'm particularly fond of are straw weight and bantam weight. Alright, so let's look at straw weight first. We're going to start at number 15 again. Yon's Yonam, Courtney Casey, Carolina, Cole K. Vitz, Felice Herring, Cynthia Calavito, Alexa Grasso, Carla Esparaza, Tisha Torres, Michelle Waterson, Relaizan, Claudia Guadela, Johanna Euseik, Nina Asron, Tatiana Suarez, Rose Semenousius, and Jessica Arande. Carla Esparaza was actually the first straw weight champion of Ultimate Fighting Champion. Rose came in second on that fight. Rose has just lost her title look. For many of us, she will always be champ. Okay, I love the Rose. Bantam weight division. Again, starting at number 15. Viviana Rojo, Sejera Leubanks, Lena Landsberg, Macy Chasen, Sarah McMahon, Irene Adena, Maren Renau, Yana Cuniskaya, Kat Zagano, Raquel Pennington, Aspen Ladd, Julia Pina, Holly Holm, Keating Vera, Jameen Durrani, and Amanda Nunes, who's actually a champ champ because Amanda holds both the bantam weight and the feather weight. How can I forget? Okay, so to all of my fighters and to the ones I don't know yet, congratulations and frocks to all of you. You're doing such things and working out the way you are with your lives that I never could when it comes to fighting. All right, so I thought I had some notes about Amanda here. Amanda is incredible. 239, July 6th, Timo Boirena. She consolidated her legacy by beating Holly Holm. Both these women, the nicest woman you could ever meet, both of them intensely athletic. Holly Holm's nickname is the preacher's daughter, and Amanda Nunes' nickname is the Linus. They went at it, and Amanda won by a head kick knockout. Pretty intense. She dropped back away to do this KO. Amanda Nunes has the longest title run of any female. She's on a nine-fight winning streak, and both these women smashed Rhonda Riles a couple of years ago. Props of both of them, and let's not forget Amanda, knocking out Chris Cyborg, who is formidable in a 51-second knockout some time ago. All right, thank you Linus.  Okay, so to the 400-pound Elf in the room, we're going to discuss Jorge, Gamebread, Messedall, knocking out Ben Ascrin for it. Ascrin in five seconds flat a couple of weeks ago. Ben Ascrin is an admired crackler and wrestler, coming out of the Midwest. He's got a 19-0 winning streak. He came to the UFC, he was traded with Demetris Johnson. I think Ben came out one, the promotion, and Demetris Johnson went over to one. Ben came in the UFC, and all he's been doing is talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. He fought a fight with Robbie Lawyer. Very controversial decision. He won that fight. He's a known grappler. Jorge Messedall stirred out as a semi-projet of Kimbo Slice. He's been fighting since 2000 and three, I believe, or longer than that. Ben hasn't been fighting as long as Jorge has been. There's Ben's notes right there. Let's look at Ben's stats real quick because he's right there. Born July 18th, 1984, known for his massive afro and pinning star. He came out Bellator, he's married with three kids, impressive grappling skills. His weight is 170 pounds. His reach is 72 inches, and he's been active since 2009 until the present. And yes, he has 19 out of 21 fights. He's won. Jorge, I know I've got Jorge's stats somewhere right here. Jorge's pretty serious guy. See if I can find Jorge. But right off the top of my head, I think I can talk about Jorge. Partnered with a beautiful woman named Iman Alaw. He also has three children. Jorge is funny but lethal. Let's see. Well, we're going to talk more about Jorge in another episode at any rate. I can't believe I forgot my notes on him. But this is how it goes down. If you look at the Mack life, July 7th, 2019, you'll see that this particular after-pressor of Jorge's has 1,431 and 675 likes. The fight happened, the fight was over in five seconds. He made UFC history.  Ben came at him with this signature move which consists of going down, taking the guy down and Jorge spun out of his side of the octagon with a knee kick and knocked the guy out flat and then gave him two punches for good measure. As the announcer saying, your fight clock is bought by Modelo, the fight was over. When you look at the pressor, Jorge explained that why should he be taken to task for celebrating and making fun of Ben when all Ben was doing was trash talking him but not really backing it up. He said, for a guy like that, it was a come down to fight a guy like him. He said, I'm a fighter. This guy, he's not a mean guy. He wants to hug me and put his face in my crotch. This crotch is not for men. You pay a heavy toll when you do that. And he said, Ben has other problems besides me knocking him out. I mean whole foods. I'm still going to slap him up. When I off the cuff kind of comment that on YouTube, my comment got 246 likes. I never get like like that on YouTube if I make a comment but this fight was polarizing in a way. Ben did not know where he was when he got up and again, he doesn't look like he's built like a fighter. All respect to every woman out there. The fans say this guy's built like a 59 year old grandmother. I know 59 year old grandmothers who are smoking hot. Okay, so I don't want to disband per se but again, mostly men on YouTube are like, he's so handsome. He looks like a Greek god. Jorge's other nickname besides game bright is street Jesus. Jorge's beautiful. Ben could be beautiful. He's got the nose, whatever.  Pardon me for one moment. Son of Chail is Chail's son and son, his young son. Ben Askren cannot touch Chail's son when it comes to grappling, pardon me, or even trash talking, which is what he did. So when you have fighters like Colby Covington and Ben Askren and they kind of don't fight a lot and they talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. You end up not really liking them a bit and this is why this sport is so subjective. When it comes to football, baseball, you can see the statistics and you can see the talent. When it comes to fighting, you can also but when someone is a pompous fool and they talk, talk, talk and they can't back it up, you don't want to see them fight and I will never pay to watch Ben Askren fight. I just won't and I'm a chick. I'm shallow. He's not that good looking because he's not really giving off any charisma. However, Jorge, who I didn't really notice at all and again, this being a subjective sport, I can't keep my eyes off this guy. I cannot keep my eyes off this guy. He's got a dry sense of humor. He's a serious fighter. He's there to fight and he said, here's the deal. I'm going to steal some of that hype, grab it for my own and go for a title shot. Well, that's all up to Mr. Dana White. So we'll see what happens with that. I find that it's easy to pick sides in a fight when you're not a fighter and you're not a warrior and all you want to do is see the blood. That's not very good. I hope I always remain a humble novice. I hope that I remember my own lack of objectivity in this sport. But I don't want to hear a guy put down anyone's heritage, their family, their woman or nothing. You get in there and you fight. You talk about your skills. You don't diss the person. Call the other person a coward and get knocked out after five seconds.  So an international fight week totally kind of perked me up. It's not that this year hasn't been exciting and it's not that there haven't been any great fights. But that five second knockout took everyone's breath away and is still taking everyone's breath away. And Ben Askren, people say he is, you know, said, I deserved it.  And try to do something more than go for the guy's torso, okay? Professor Jorge Mascal, I'll be checking you out, all right? You know how to get the job done. And I think that I wouldn't want to do that at me. Okay, so that's it for me for the moment. This is Octagon St. Laboux. I'm your hostess, Betty St. Laboux, discussing novice fever. If you're into MMA, check it out. And if you're not, that's okay too. Bless you all. Peace and love to you all. Okay, take care. Until next episode, chat.