Alright, welcome back everyone, hopefully you got a chance to talk to your other classmates and introduce yourself. And so please take this time now to enter in in the chat what you think the two or three impacts will be to the grocery market, the industry, to Whole Foods, to Amazon, to its competitors. And so keep it short, think like tweeting, don't write a big essay, but something short and then we'll talk about those. But in the meanwhile, Sergio wanted to give a quick update on the course. Yes. So I just wanted to clarify a couple of questions that we have received from the student group. So guys, just remember that this is an instructor based course, so this means that every single week we will release a new material, so even though the course has launched last week, so this Wednesday, July 21st, we're releasing the first week. Every single week will consist of two lessons, we'll have also the practice programs, we'll have the assignments, and as Chris mentioned, we'll have additional material for very high students. So every single week we'll have a new set of material. So now it's time to start discussing the case. So what do you think? Sergio, I'm going to put you on the spot, what do you think the impact is going to be? Amazon has a giant, $136 billion bought, a $15, $16 billion grocery store.  So I think that it will be a moderating impact on big players, like as a small market, but I think some of the small grocery firms will be most affected by these acquisitions, I think most of them, or some of them will get out of the business. I also see some impact on the Whole Foods employees, because we see that for example this new pilot, Amazon Go, that Amazon is implemented with piloting in Seattle, so when they don't have any checkouts employee, right? Have you been to it? No, not really. I've never met anyone who's been to it yet. So if you're on the call and you've been to Amazon Go, chat and let us know where it's like. It's the one where, it's like that old, it was an IBM commercial where a guy's in the store, he's putting stuff into his coat, and then he walks outside the door and the guy, the cop comes out from his hands and says, you don't get a physical receipt. Okay. But there's a video, there's a video on YouTube about this store. I'm always very skeptical, because I think it's like a software working in PowerPoint, just because they have a YouTube video of it, doesn't really work. I'm really curious. So it's in Seattle, and so it's live now. It's a smaller store, it's like a 7-Eleven size. Exactly, that's correct. With a limited skew of brand? Yeah, I think so. Probably because it's a low-value one. Yeah, in this case, they combine the videos and also the sensors. Because there's no basket, right? In this case, you can just grab the product, and at the end, you will have to pay for that. You'll get the receipt on your phone. So if you go in there without a phone? No, you need a phone. You need a phone. Because in the phone, you'll have the app, the app. No, okay. Yeah, I'm curious. The phone's awesome because they're always doing wacky stuff. And so we'll see what works. But I've never met anyone who's done it. Has anyone, chatting in, has anyone on the call or on the event done it? Been there? No? No? You've been to it? Norway, so we have some of it. Oh, in Norway, they have it. Well, who works in Norway, it's kind of, if you make it in Norway. And did it work? Was it the same concept? Same concept. You don't need actually your phone. They have something that you can grab there. Really? But no one steals anything in Norway, right? So there's no theft. But it's an interesting thing. But I think your point though, Sergio, is that Amazon and Whole Foods have very different employee skills. I don't think. Have you ever shopped at a Whole Foods? I did. Do they have automatic cashiers? No, I don't. They don't. Nothing's on me. So their whole approach is friendly, they're knowledgeable, they're all hipsters, right? They know their organic stuff. And if you look, if you do some quick math, the revenue per employee at Whole Foods is about $180,000 per year. At Amazon, it's about $400,000. So you look at the value of what a person brings and you look at the automation that Amazon's known for. My guess, if you're $15 per hour employee at Whole Foods are looking for another job. They're going to automate that because they can't sustain a labor force that's generating that little revenue. So the question is, did they acquire them to get into traditional brick and mortar grocery store? And my guess is we both say no. The real acquisition, I view it as a real estate acquisition because now what Amazon can do, they've been pushing more and more to have, you know, same, next day delivery was an innovation eight years ago. And now it's the same day, and now it's within two hours. And so as they're getting closer and closer and closer to them, though, you've got to be closer and closer to your customer. You can't make up the distance, right? You do a lot of work in last mile delivery, but you've got to be close. And so what they bought essentially is this footprint close to their types of partners or their types of customers rather in the high end urban environments that are dense. They're not out in the rural areas of Tennessee. And if you're in a dense area, if you've taken, if you took SC0X, you know what happens with the density. Remember approximation squared of NA? So as you have a denser area, then your cost for delivering goes way down. There's a reason why you have home delivery in urban areas. And this is a footprint that's going right to that. So my sense is this is an acquisition for real estate. And they can use this as a jump point for last mile for grocery. Sure, that makes sense. But also for other goods, they use them as distribution centers for getting a closer footprint to the customers. The other impact, one that might happen is Whole Foods tends to have very small suppliers. If you go in there, they have some big brand names, right? You'll see a General Mills, but not that much. Yeah, you generally have a little niche. And so the thing is, is Amazon going to stay with those niche suppliers that could totally transform Whole Foods in the grocery market. But what are some of the comments coming in? Anything from the groups? Okay, so we have some from the students. So Ilya Rokun from one of the record rooms, so they say that Amazon, the first impact to Amazon to develop these expertise and to grow up then these niche on a global scale. So that's the first impact. The second one is Whole Foods will capitalize on the supply network Amazon has. And the third one is obtaining a bigger market share as many people with along the tops like Jewel Osco and Costco. Where's Jewel Osco? I don't know that one. I haven't heard of that one. Is that US based? Do you know it? West. Is it West? Central and West. I agree with some of it. I know the thing is the people who go to Costco are not necessarily the same people who go to Whole Foods. It depends. Maybe they go and it's a different size of their market basket, but they tend to go to a Costco for you guys outside the US. What would be the equivalence in Europe? Would it be a nut of Tesco? It's the big wholesale grocery store, Sam's, a warehouse club where you go and buy essentially a pallet worth of stuff, big box stuff. Whole Foods, that niche is where you buy, you know, your turnip from Brazil and your pears from Chile and all that. They're very niche organic. So I don't know what the overlap is there for that. It might pull people from some competitors like Crater Jail, but I don't know. I don't know. Okay. So how about I comment from Frane Lu? In this case, the first impact, they think that will be a leveraged, the logistics infrastructure and gain more market share. You think Whole Foods will gain more market share? Whole Foods and Amazon together. So did anyone, did I mention what the market share was? Did I mention it on the start? I did. So it's 2%. So Whole Foods and Amazon combined. It's 1.2%. So they've got a ways to go. They've got increased by 10X for that to go. So it'll be interesting to see how far they can grow that, and if that's what they really want to go for. Okay. The second impact, roughly shopping with the Alexi and EcoDevice. That's great.  Essentially, you can talk to it's voice activated, it does a bunch of different tasks. It's similar to what Google Home, Apple Siri, and they've introduced one now, but the market leader and creator of this market is really Amazon. And I know you can actually order things now, to have delivered. And it's really, do you have an Echo? No, I don't have it. But you have one, right? I have one. And so we order our dog food from it, because I live in an urban area and I don't want to carry 30 pounds of dog food in. So I just say, Alexa, order dog food, and it asks for my code, which I won't tell you. And then it says that it's there in three days. It's awesome. The question is, will that happen for grocery? I was reading something recently about the big mobility problem that people have, especially in urban areas, who are left, they kind of solve individual things, except if you're going grocery shopping. Grocery shopping eats so much of your time and you're carrying 10, 20, 30 pounds of stuff with you, it's a little harder. So in urban areas, this niche of last delivery of grocery could make a lot of sense. And if you make to something where you can just order from the home, that could be a big one. I bet they will tie that. I could see that happening very quickly on Echo, and that will drive something else out. There's a company called Instacart, and their niche is that they will deliver food from Whole Foods to you. Have you ever used Instacart, Tim? So you can say, I want, what would you buy at Whole Foods, like some artisanal pickles or something, something obscure. So you have this delivered, and they will deliver it in an hour or two, it's very quick, and it's like $5.00. So essentially, they're already on the rocks to get market share. I can see them just from the place there, maybe having them just reply to the Echo. Okay. So that's what you were talking about with the go. You know, that sounds really cool, and we'll see if it actually happens. I think it's a couple of little ways away. So a couple of others from Thomas mentioned the Amazon takeover of Whole Foods may force out the smaller local and regional grocery chains. That's what you said. Yeah. Okay. There's still a pretty small, I don't know, I grew up when A&P was dominant. Does anyone remember? Do you remember A&P? No. Yeah. Does anyone remember A&P? No. Oh, come on. You don't remember? Atlantic Pacific A&P? They were the dominant. Actually, the store that invented the grocery store, does anyone know? They're still around, but you probably never know. I remember. I remember. Pigley Wigley was the first grocery store. But then A&P was the first one who made their own in-store, not in-store, but private label brands. A&P was massive, and they went under. So who knows what's going to happen here, but a lot of those regional guys are out in the boonies. They're out in the rural areas, but also I guess there's a lot in the urban areas too. Cool. The stands. That could be interesting. We could see. Okay. So Thomas is mentioning that Amazon will use the whole goods as both a warehouse for local deliveries and as a pickup point for those who want to do that. Yeah. So it'll be really interesting. In week, when do I talk about warehouse? Week 8? Week 8. So we've all been to stores, and when I was growing up, the back room was massive in the store. And over the last 15, 20, 30 years, it's gotten smaller and smaller and smaller because retailers realize they won't have stuff on the shelves, and they kept less than the back. And so if you talk to any grocery retailer, the back room, if you've ever been in the back, try to go to the back room of a grocery store next time you're in a grocery store. It's a mess, and it's really small. And so the question is, can that turn into a DC? And so you talk about Omni Channel and all this where the stores also become the forward deployment point or fulfillment center, it's a challenge. It's not a trivial thing. I know Walmart struggled with this. A lot of grocery stores have struggled with this. They're better suited for pickup at the store rather than delivery from. So it'll be interesting. It might change things the way there's laid out because if you've been to Whole Foods, it's very airy and there's a lot of open space. So I don't know. The back room will be. But I agree that they're going to try to use some of those fulfillment centers and also read, in addition to their stores, they also have their own inbound supply chain. And so they have larger DCs that are refrigerated. And so that's something that I see Amazon taking advantage of right away, because they can run a DC better than anyone. Having this network of refrigerated or temperature controlled DCs across the country, they could do their fresh prime daily delivery from there. That's pretty attractive. Again, it's a real estate play more than a band of Whole Foods, because Whole Foods generally means a higher price, higher margin. It doesn't necessarily mean value. Okay. Thank you, Chris. So another one is Amazon becomes Uber of the grocery delivery space. So that's one thing back. What? You see? I guess so. What does that mean?  So I get a pro set, all the, I've got the idea, this is the Uber for whatever. And so what does that mean? That means crowdsourcing or separate non-employees are providing the service. So I don't know if that's going to happen. I know different stores have played with using Uber, for example, Walmart for their home delivery pilots out of Denver, am I doing this right? They use Uber, yeah, out of Denver. And so they've tried using Uber for that for the delivery, and it actually, the pilot, as far as I've heard, it's going very well. And they're using it more for package and small deliveries. But when you say the Uber of, that usually means something. So that means that you're using assets that you don't own, and you have some centralized coordinating activity. I don't see that here personally. But anyway. Okay, sorry, I wasn't really in design. We need more location for YouTube cashless store. Yeah, sure, that's what they go. Yeah, so the question is, are they going to keep all the stores open? And are they going to change the mix? Will they, for grocery? I don't know what the, have you guys ordered anything groceries off Amazon? Fresh, yeah, so it'll be interesting if they flesh out their line or do they start changing the selection? I don't know. Like I said, it's a small market share. Okay, so we have another comment. So Instacart now would have bigger opportunities in lunch, lunching at City's Nation 1, and not just the Whole Foods location.  Exploring a lagoon is awesome. They're a big shark. Amazon has been called a big shark before, but different reasons. The Instacart are like small fishes in a lagoon. Now they have bigger opportunities to explore and grow because of these activations. So are the Whole Foods like a remora, right? Aren't those the cleaning fish that stay on top of the shark? That'll be interesting, I don't know. So Instacart again, does deliveries, and I think they go from other stores, not just Whole Foods. But the question is, does Amazon need that, or are they going to incorporate that? I don't know, for the last mile, I believe Amazon Fresh is using its own vehicles, aren't they? Yeah, they would use their own fleet, so maybe they'll replace that. Them being located in very urban dense areas will certainly help Amazon do last mile. But anyway, I think we're almost out of time, but what's interesting is all the concepts you'll learn in this course will help you think more about this, especially some of the transportation decisions. Because the most expensive leg of transportation is the last mile. Always, the last mile, first mile. And so what they're doing here is they're getting a step in to closer last mile delivery. So it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. And we'll see if they truly become the uber of grocery. We'll see how that goes. Okay, thank you, thank you for being here. Thank you so much for being here. And thank you guys and see you next time. All right, bye.


Hey everybody, welcome to the Zelda Informer Podcast Episode 37. My name is Adam and here's the news from this past week. The Zelda Theme 3DS carrying case has returned to Europe's club Nintendo. The Majora's Mask 3D Any% record was beaten twice in one day. Nintendo News Network showed off the unused NES Zelda content. We finally learned how to enter the Nintendo World Championship. The squid-based shooter Splatoon did not originally feature squids in the latest release, but Iwata asks. Also, Bowser became Nintendo's new VP of sales. Doom's Modern Remake recently released a 10-second trailer. Phil Spencer says the connect still matters. The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt released this week to Universal Acclaim. And the Warcraft movie recently released a few images of one of its or characters, Orgrim, in an interview with Wired Magazine. All of this happened this week and more. We're gonna be talking about a few pieces, we're talking about some fan topics. As always, thanks to those of you who submitted fan topics. If you have any of your own, please submit those to us at zeldinformerpodcast.com. Once again, that's zeldinformerpodcast at gmail.com. This week's opening theme song is brought to you by Husky by the Geek, which we're finally bringing back after a little hiatus. And this week's outro theme is brought to us by Zorak. Thanks again to everyone who contributed to this week's episode. Once again, my name is Adam, and this week I'm joined by... The coolest and raddest co-host Chris! What's going on, guys? Hey! How's it going? It's Caleb again. Glad to see all your pretty faces. And Sarah, cause everyone loves me. Oh, and I'm Jeffers, aka Topspinthefuzzy. Hello. Glad to have you. Glad to have us with you, man. Wow. Words! Can't do anything. You really just knocked that out of the crowd, dude. You did it. Just a little backstory. I've been traveling all day, so I'm very tired. Yeah, well... It's not an excuse. It's not an excuse. It's just kind of a warning. It's not your C-minus game. I have two A-games, and they're both my first... Adam has an A-minus C-game. Bring your Adam-game. I don't know if we're allowed to say that. Anyway. Thank you. Moving on. Yeah, guys. So, let's start off with a fan topic this week. We never really do that.  What? What? What's the topic? Come on. Hit me, baby. One more time. Etc. This comes to us from Joe. I think... Thanks, Joe. This... I think it'd be interesting to have a Zelda platformer similar to Mario. Mario 64, in my mind, was the least traditional Mario game. I'd like to see the opposite with Zelda, Link scaling a large castle or up-deaf mountain. I would imagine this as a DS-game. Thoughts? Don't we have DS-games? What are DS-games? I'm missing... I guess I'm missing the point. The world ends with you. Well... I mean, they're trying to say that it would be interesting to just have a purely platforming action-based Zelda game which kind of takes away from the whole idea of a Zelda game, doesn't it? I'm trying to... You're exploring and doing dungeons and whatever. I'm trying to... I'm trying to mentor... I mean, in a way... Someone needs to animate this. Seriously. Link just skinned over Mario and stepping on Stalfos and Skull Kids and stuff. Yeah. It's really all I can imagine. There were a lot of parts in Zelda 2 that seemed very platformer-esque. Oh, well... Oh, well, a lot of Zelda 2 was platformer, but it was also weird and still had the whole exploring dungeons thing, didn't it? Yeah, that's... I mean, I just don't think something like that could really work for Zelda. Actually... Yeah, well, especially not, because they mentioned Mario 64 and I don't think that works at all. Well, Mario 64... That works for Mario. That works for Mario. Yeah, Mario's very open. Well, I mean, because he was always a platformer. Yeah. Right. That's my argument for sure. Well, Mario 64 branched out of what the Mario style used to be, because it used to be the side-scrolling platformer, but then they switched to more 3D. When they got the 3D technology, yeah. Yeah. Because they wanted to try out the new medium, I guess, of 3D. But I thought about the question, I was really interested by the idea of Link scaling a castle or up-deaf mountain, because I would love to see more vertical play with a Zelda game, because we have a lot of platforming, Zelda 2, for example, and we see a lot of adventuring, but we never see him like... You have the grappling hook, but it really feels like you're going across chasms more than anything. You're never really going up. True. You're never really... It would kind of be interesting to see one Zelda game where it's just... Have you played the Water Temple? Listen. We don't talk about that here. Water Temple is tedious. Nothing else. You're tedious. How do you not get through the Water Temple? I never understood that. It takes me less than... No, it's not hard. It just is f***ing annoying. Yeah, it's just annoying. Poorly designed temple. See, I'm a scuba diver, so that temple, for me, like, spoke to my heart. Oh, well, poor you. Did it? Did you cardiac arrest? Do you often wear iron boots when you scuba? Do you scuba? Well, I don't wear iron boots, but I do stick iron around my waist. Oh. I can't know. Comments coming to mind, and I just remember that this channel is PG, so... Well, to wrap up the question, Joe. I mean, I have a little bit more to say on it, actually. I mean, yeah, I mean... Joe, you're very... One of the CDI games, a little more platformer-esque, as well. Even though the CDIs are like... That's why no one likes you, Chris. No, but I'm like, that's why I don't think a platformer could work, because if we're gonna get another CDI or Zelda II-esque... Well, I think I got it, guys. Okay, instead of Dr. Mario, it's like the Great Fairy's pill machine or something. You have to match up the colored fairies like the Jewels. That's a puzzle game. That's not a platformer. That was the joke, damn it. Thank you, Jeffers. I swear to God, right now. We talked about this a little last week. What? Yeah, we did. About Zelda staying Zelda and kind of not branching out and stuff. I think it was specifically for one again Metroidvania-type Zelda game, which I personally disagree with. We have Hyrule Warriors, which is good at all, but I think something like Zelda or Nintendo in general, they kind of have an IP for each type of genre, and they should kind of keep those IPs, those genres, and not try to mix and match them all too much. I agree with that. But that's just my own personal opinion. You have a good point with that. I'm not thinking of it like a Metroidvania sort of thing. I'm thinking, like I said earlier, if anyone's played God of War games, there are several scenes where you climb up mountains. Like Mountain Olympus, for example, there's a big scene where you're climbing up Mountain Olympus, either on Gaius' back. Not to interrupt you, but I know we were talking about Metroidvanias last week. Yeah, I'm saying, like, there could be a good sort of angle, a good way to explore the environments by doing this sort of thing. There's been several law-based items. I'd like to see one that's definitely for climbing. That would definitely make vertical mobility and vertical puzzles more of a thing, because it feels like with, like, wall-based or roof-based puzzles, it's usually just hit that glowy thing over there. Yeah, I was gonna say that. A lot of the, like, vertical, inclined challenges or quote-unquote puzzles in the 3D Zelda games is just a lot of, like, look over there and shoot a thing. It's not that... It's them not really exploring it. They're not really giving it enough time and thought. They're not, like, saying, like, okay, what can we do with this? Another trope that they do a lot in the 3D Zeldas as far as puzzles goes is just, like, pushing a block to a spot. Mm-hmm. And that's literally it. Or an item. The 3D is pushing a block to a spot item or wall block. I honestly think that changed when A Link Between Worlds came out, though. A Link Between Worlds is not a 3D Zelda game. I mean, well, it sort of is. Nope, it is a top-down 2D Zelda game. Well, there was the ancient spinner and Twilight Princess. You mean the one that served one function once, and that's it? Yep. Oh, you mean the rail shooter? I mean, great. Well, I mean, Jeff, when you say, like, there's one function once in Ocarina of Time, you did have Link's skill in Mount Doom. I was gonna bring that up, too, yeah. You have to, like, go up that thing and down that thing. Yeah.  Like, rush it twice exactly. I mean, like... I don't remember that at all. It didn't seem like the most, like, craziest thing happening in the game, but I mean, like, I figured that because that's not what they're trying to, like, bring with a Zelda game. They don't want you to have to focus on, like, climbing up and down or have that vertical... Well, but it kind of gives you more reason to look around your environment. It takes advantage of a 3D world when you say every... Well, climbing every spot is kind of different from having one item that you get used once. Yeah. I definitely think that we're gonna see a lot more, you know, dynamic with camera angles and puzzles though because now they want to make the world very like... They want to make it more open world, yeah. So they're gonna have to include a lot more things to go with it. They want to make us explore every single part of that world. Well, they don't necessarily even have to have a lot more... No, I mean, that's what they've said to us. They could just condense it to making things more well thought out, more explored as, like, a single object. Well, I think they would have to do a lot of playing with the control scheme. Like, a lot more ways that you interact with things. As opposed to, like, things that you use. Yeah. So that you could explore the world and it doesn't just get stale and, like, you're wandering around.  I mean, although just given the fact that the Wii U and the GamePad are hand-in-hand for every Wii U title, like, ever, it's gonna limit us for, like, you know, some of the things that we want to have in the game because they want to utilize that GamePad. That is the controller for the Wii U. It looked like, like, from the brief gameplay that they showed, it looked like the GamePad was mostly just used for the map. For the map. Yeah, possibly to, like, look at your items. Yeah, possibly for your inventory. But that looked like it was about it, yeah. And that was their idea since the demo that they showed at E3 for the Wii U's launch. I feel like it's gonna change though. I feel like it's gonna have a lot more importance than, like, the GamePad. The GamePad itself, yeah. I wouldn't be totally opposed to that. Like, in the Wind Waker remake, I actually liked aiming that stuff with the GamePad. Gyroscope is a lot better than Motion Controls. So it was very simple and straightforward. Yeah, absolutely. I hated playing Twilight Princess on the Wii because of the Motion Controls. Agreed. Aw, so agreed. Yeah, but I mean, like, I think because of the system, they're gonna try to optimize the game for the system, like, to utilize what they have. Yeah, that's what I prefer. I prefer controlling options. They're not gonna give us the option to use a Pro Controller or anything like that. I just want the option to switch between Motion Control and Basic Control. Yeah, I prefer that. Might as well throw in the ability to use the Pro Controller then. But I doubt they're gonna do that. It depends on what they put on the GamePad because they can't, like, put that on the screen. I mean, where you put what really matters. Speaking of where you put where you're putting things, that sounds terrible. But I will explain why. Joe had another topic for us that I would like to get into. I would like to hear your opinions on where Link keeps all of his gear. How do you think all of his items fit under a shield? My theory is magic, witchcraft, and the Illuminati. Have you ever seen Mary Poppins, Joe?  Oh, I was gonna reference those two dragons with a bag of holding. Yeah.  It's just hammer space. Just make sure it's not a bag of devouring. Or what if it's like Dragon Ball Z, so he has everything in capsules and, like, he just makes it all bigger when he needs it? Wouldn't that kind of, like, give us sort of post-apocalyptic future, kind of, like, vived everything? I'm sure somebody's made that theory at some point. I'm sure. Like, a really futuristic shrink size-minimizing object that could survive. It could just be an enchantment with a pocket dimension. What is this, a world with magic? Oh, I mean, like, magic, yeah. Oh, then I guess, yeah, it can happen. Ow. Yeah, that's probably, like, the way he stuffs everything in himself, or capsules, because he's secretly, like, capsule-corp. I used to see pictures of, uh, I think it was linked to the past link or just the original link of his equipment on him, like he has the bow, he has the arrows, he has the shield and everything. Yeah, you kind of see it forming on him. It was a cool image. I don't know what, it was just, like, he looks prepared. And it wasn't, like, too much. It was just enough. It's more of a Western type of look, though. Yeah, I suppose. It's, like, more sort of, like... Got a problem with Westerners? No, I don't know probably Westerners, but, like, when you look at, like... I will. Like, showing ready to be used? Yeah, compared to, like, you know, a lot of... I guess it's... I don't want to say, like, RPG games, but I'm going to. So, like, JRPG games, like, you see all, like, the items, like, usually, you don't see them at all. You'd have to go into your inventory and, like, grab out the items like that, switch things out, like, in any, you know, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, I'm just naming those because those are the ones that are on the top of my head.  What? Dude, Skyrim, you can carry, like, 50 dragon heads and, like... You don't see that sh**. No, but you see, like, your weapons and stuff that you have on you. I'll only use a better example, uh, like... I would love to just see a picture of someone from Skyrim carrying, like, a bag of, like, just dragging new dragon heads along the ground. That'd be hilarious. Like, what are you doing to make some stuff? Don't worry about it. As far as items, though, like, items are more, like, aesthetically pleasing to us Westerners compared to, like, items being shown in, you know, Eastern games. I feel like part of that is just because it's, like, preserving the character design, though. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, no, I could see that. Instead of any logical reason, it's just, like, we like the way that we made the character look. Yeah, uh, in Zelda U, you're gonna be, I think, it seems like you're gonna be using your horse a lot more, uh, to, like, just to get to the place... Well, because the map is huge. Yeah, and it's, it's definitely designed for, you know, horseback movement. Also, the parachute thing. Just horseback action. So it'd be really cool to see your stuff kind of, like, like, being added to the horse's inventory. So as you get more items, like, you see the bow and arrows, like, on the horseback. Yeah, it'd be so funny. He has, like, all the bags stacked on top of him.  Yeah, that'd be really funny. That'd be kind of cool, I guess. I used to think that, um, that basically Link had access to the same interface that you did. What do you mean? Like, you know how in the, in the game. Oh, okay, so when you open up the game menu and, like, link to the past and that menu drops down, he has that, essentially? I mean, as a kid, that's what I used to imagine it as. Oh, you could actually imagine, like, he's looking into a bag, like, he's opening it up and he just sees everything floating. Yeah, exactly. That's kind of what it was. Okay, so I need this. So he just, like, opens up his inventory space and I'll pull this out. And to me, that's just how it worked in my head. He was like, well, where does he stick it? Well, he must have access to the inventory space because where else would it go? Up his butt? You know, I understand, like, why that would, like, in most games, he has magic power. Yeah, I mean, everything is powered by magic. From wherever. Yeah.   I didn't ask, like, once or twice, well, where does he keep all those masks? Where do they go? You don't do that when you play these types of games. Yeah, when you just go, it's video game. That's what video game do. It depends on the game. Like, where does Ash keep, like, 100,000 Master Balls and 100 Ultra Balls and 100 Ultra Balls? Excuse me, in the PC. Thank you. I'm talking about empty pokeballs that you buy from the store. They get really tiny first. Oh, yeah. Think about five. And every character has a backpack made into their character design from the start. You know how small that backpack is? You know how small the backpack is? You know how small the pokeballs get? They get, like, pebble-sized. Not to mention everything. And Ash doesn't carry potions. They've managed to take animals and turn them into computer images and things. I think they can do... There's a lot of inconsistencies with video games, so stop worrying about it. Well, it's worried about it. It's a theory. Would you be more... It kind of begs the question.  Skyrim, for example, has a weight limit. Yeah, I hate that. But it doesn't show you the character carrying anything, so it's kind of like, why... The worst of both worlds. You have to, like, look and see the actual number. It would be good if, after a certain point, your character starts to accumulate different, like, bags and, like, backpacks on their actual model. No, I looked... What Jeff was saying earlier before, how they want to preserve, like, character models and stuff like that. I believe in stuff like that, like, in the game where I'd rather have it so I could just see the character what they look like regularly without holding all that stuff and then I'd press start and I'd go see what my character does, that your caravan grows in size as you collect more things, as you get more food resources, more weapons and armor and things. Your caravan size will grow. So you get a visual representation during the traveling sequences, but not during the battle sequences. So you preserve character models, but you also give the player a visual idea of what their actual character is bringing with them. Yeah, exactly. I rarely to never want to see my items on my character. I want to, if I change my armor, I want my armor to change with me. Yeah, something with the weapon. That's important to me. Oh, that bothers me.  That's what I was like about the original Link to the Past, because you got the weapon changes. You could see them. You could see that you got a better sword. Didn't that also happen like the original Zelda though? When you got the white sword, the white sword? Well, I mean, that's a common practice now in all the Zelda games. Like when you get a newer sword or any newer item really like an upgrade to your shield. I mean, yeah, but I mean, that's been around for forever. I just mean that there's like three levels. So it's like, I don't know, just something that I definitely noticed when I played Link to the Past, not something I really just kind of overlooked when I played the original NES Zelda. Actually, you know, it seems like that when they don't happen in like, depending on which MMO you're playing. Or like MOBAs, like if you're playing like League of Legends or Heroes of the Storm or actually not Heroes of the Storm because they don't have items, but if you're playing League of Legends and like you buy bonus items or something like that, they don't show on your character at all.  And when I started playing League of Legends, I was like, oh, it's bogus.  Like why am I spending if like it's just going to help me out when you're playing like recently a skin that makes your character Link? Well, I mean, that's a skin. I'm talking about like just bonuses when you get like in-game, like while you're playing like a match. That's just not something. I don't think that that turned me away from League of Legends, but I was just like, man. Well, in a lot of cases, it wouldn't make a lot of sense. Like for example, there are ranged characters that their core items involve swords. And it's like, I don't know how that works. Aesthetically. For something like League of Legends. Alright, so then there's another game that Adam and I started playing. We played a little Yback called Gauntlet. Oh yeah, we played the reboot for the PC. It was pretty good. Yeah, if you like the original Gauntlet games, Gauntlet is one of the first Dungeon Crawlers. They have had I think so. On console at least. Yeah. And then they made it one for the PC. They made Dark Legacy on Gamecube, which I'm sure some of you have played. Oh god, that was the best. That game is too good. That was the best. That was my introduction to the Gauntlet series. I still like playing that game today. The new one that just came out on PC is more true to like original form, which is basic arcade. There's no leveling up system with the items and everything. Well actually there is, is the thing. Really? Oh yeah, there is. There's like a slight leveling. It's not the same intensity as in Gauntlet, Dark Legacy. No, you have to buy them with the gold that you collect from the levels. Yeah. Which is okay, but you can buy bonuses too. I don't know if they change your character aesthetically. No, some of them do. But not all of them do is the thing. Some of them really do. Why would they give you the option for both of them and not like... Why would they give you the option for like, you can change some of these visual aspects, but these bonuses you can't. That doesn't make sense to me. I get if it's like magic bonus, you can't really show magic on your character because it's just kind of like a power. But I mean things like pieces of articles of clothing, like boots or hats or capes or stuff like that. You can easily put those in. I don't know. Games or games. Yeah. Like I said earlier, Zelda U, I hope it has some sort of like more visual representation than we usually get. Speaking of Zelda U, we have another fan topic from this week. From Jacob from Kansas, who writes, I was hoping that you might be a sequel to Majora's Mask. Probably unlikely, but I really want to know what happens to Ocarina slash Majora Link before he becomes the Hero Shade. Maybe he ditches the sword as his main and finds the high-tech arrow thing on his way back to Hyrule. He could also account for his age. He doesn't appear too old, but not too young either. However, he would have ditched the green and gone for the new blue clothes. Plus his hair isn't consistent. What do you guys think? Thank you for the opportunity to send in questions. I'd love to hear it on the show. Jacob from Texas. Thank you, Jacob. You actually sent us a few topics this week. I thought he was from Kansas. Kansas. Wow. My best friend in the world is from Kansas. Who's your best friend in the world? Not you. His name is what? His name is Wolfgang. That's a rad name. Is that his first name? Yeah. Anyway, what do you guys think? I don't think it will be a sequel. I don't think it's a sequel to... Hooded. It's possible, but, you know, we all already know that Link in Zelda user is a woman. Just kidding. I was about to be like, Sarah, did you get something out of it? I was going to be like, wait, what? Sarah, how do you not know the first thing about Zelda? I'm just kidding. Literally anything's possible. I'm getting the trolls going. Honestly, I really don't believe that the Arrow is going to be the new main weapon. I believe the Master Sword will always be a key element to a Zelda game. Although it looks like the Master Sword is playing a much bigger role in this game. Of course. It would be interesting to make retrieving or recreating with the Master Sword being a loftier goal. In Link to the Past, you have to get the Master Sword a few trials. A lot of Zelda games, you have to go find the Master Sword, obviously. But I feel like as of late it's not really the same sort of prestige. It's like a set plot point and it's not like you're building up to anything, it's just they give it to you. Here's the Master Sword. There isn't that same level of excitement you first used to feel when you got the Master Sword and feel like, yeah, I'm going to take everyone down now. Because it was like a goal before, right? Yeah, it was definitely a goal. You had to work towards getting the Master Sword. Even in Ocarina of Time, it was like you had to figure out how to beat all the Tessals. You had to get the Song of Time and the Ocarina of Time and all that. Yeah, they did the same thing they did in Link to the Past. Three items to open the chamber. Yeah, exactly. I think what they could do, which is a little more likely, is that they could introduce you to the interesting... What I think is going to happen in terms of that, is your bow is probably going to end up being your main weapon when you're on the Overworld map. Because it seems a lot more open, so you'll probably be more likely to use a ranged attack as opposed to just running all your underwater forces. Yeah, exactly. So you'll probably use your sword more when you're in Dungeons and whatever. Looking at the timeline again, I actually pulled it up. I believe that if they're going to stick Zelda you anyway, that it might actually be during the Era of Prosperity between Skyward Sword and the Minish Cow. It's possible. Interesting. I remember thinking that some people were saying before Skyward Sword and I said that's not really possible. No, not really possible before. Considering the current cannon, Skyward Sword story has the Skyward Sword taking place immediately after the comic at the very end of the novel. Weren't there two other games added to the Hyrule Historia that weren't a link between worlds in this other game, weren't they added to it after? A link between worlds is added right after a link to the past I believe. Sorry, after the link to the past's journey. So Link's Awakening? I believe it was the last one. Yeah, Link's Awakening is the last one. That's in the Era of Light and Dark. Right, right. I was thinking it would happen either between when the New Land discovered the Spear Tracks timeline or after basically after the New Cotton discovered they discovered even more land and that's where it could possibly take place. Yeah, I think there's a few places they could put it and it's totally possible that it could go after Menjaro's match. This is what he does in between years before he becomes the shade. It could be him exploring the New continent after the Spirit Tracks or it could literally be during the establishment of Hyrule Kingdom. There's so much open space. It leads me to believe that it will be during a time when there's not a lot of establishment in the cities. Which makes sense considering what we've seen of the map and there's not a whole lot of anything There's a good chance that they could just basically say this isn't part of the timeline. It's possible. I do like the idea of it being after Menjaro's Mask where basically it's kind of a departure from what the hero is where he's trying to define himself as a person. Because the entire idea of Menjaro's Mask is kind of being lost a journey of discovery like who you are. The Ocarina Link, Hero of Time Link has been kind of confused as to who he is since day one. He didn't know his parents, he felt different from the other Kokiri children and he loses his best friend. He loses the love of his life, he loses pretty much everything leading up to the end of Menjaro's Mask and it would be kind of cool if he kind of makes you think of how at the end of Menjaro's Mask he does something that while helps everyone is almost unremembered and I think he kind of comes to terms with the fact that he has to start doing things for himself possibly to it's not about who remembers what you did and who remembers why you did it because that's happened twice that he's done things that basically save the world and no one can really know he starts to go out and so he finds all this land he finds this new place and he starts to ditch the green because that is associated with his former life the life that he left behind well also he would have grown out of it he was a child he could make more I don't know I don't think that it is hard to find green clothing are you sure how sure are you of that next time on Zi's Podcast I will let you know how hard it is to find green clothing it's not that hard it's actually not that hard to find green clothing Zi Podcast in the field name me 5 different colors that green could go with besides like white and black don't say purple brown dark brown it's very earthy it could go together but like green can only go with like a select few colors compared to like purple this is my topic right here being the resident female green can go with anything it depends on the shade and the tone saturation saturation I want to find it's almost as if it's like the most common color in nature put a dark green with an awful blue depends on what you're going to accessorize with or what exactly on your garb is green like if you're wearing green pants you'd want to wear like a white or beige top green pants would never be caught in green pants I used to wear green pants well dude like a dark grayish green where would you wear green pants to anywhere you want everyday life my duck dynasty part oh yeah the forest the army the world potentially so what do you guys think about the idea of being after Majora's Mask possible Majora's Mask fan I gotta say I don't think it's very likely as much as I would like to have in Majora's Mask sequel don't think that's the case I don't know I want to say that are you still in like before the part in the history where it's like the hero's triumphant or the hero's defeated I want to say it's still in like the the pre-side of everything so it's still with Ocarina of Time, Four Swords, Minish Cap and Skyward Sword between Skyward Sword and Minish Cap yeah I mean I would anything next to Minish Cap is just like equal yes heck they could even like go into like bigger and like they could introduce as low as like an earlier form in this game before he got turned into a hat they could oh wait no one of my always has a hat they could branch off and make a whole new timeline it's like during Skyward Sword maybe Link never actually defeats demise and Zelda actually stays in hibernation and he is defeated and reborn and needs to try again as a bear as a bear I would absolutely play that legend of bear he has to defeat them with his bear hands oh you're so funny he gets the master claws I feel like I need to hang up the call now just from that joke no unacceptable that pad was kind of sticky he knows his second amendment but Jeff you mentioned that your favorite game in this old series is Majora's Mask 100% 10 out of 10 why is that what do you mean why is that that's the go-to game for the podcast part of the reason is because it ignores a lot of Zelda troops and Ganon and Zelda and the master sword and Hyrule in general just kind of like throws that all aside and does its own thing so you like it because it's the least Zelda game no I like it because it tries different things Caleb is calling it out I like it because it doesn't like just stick to that's why I like it you know what I'm saying instead of just being like well it's a Zelda game so it's gotta be in Hyrule it's gotta have the master sword 100% of the assets from like an actual Zelda title which is smart I mean that's good that's fine I just like that it tried something else it was still parallel Hyrule yeah it was technically a parallel world but it still tried something different like in terms of the plot technicality I gotta tell you my favorite console Zelda game is Majora's Mask unless of course Zelda use good wait you said console yeah console oh okay I know it came out for the 3DS but I played it on the N64 when it came out I played it on my Wii when it came out on Virtual Console however I can see where Adam's a big 2D guy I am you like a link to the past hey say that on the podcast listen it's gonna be fine don't replace it with DK noises it's fine I'm just gonna leave it in whatever I thought you said he was gonna replace it with DK noises the DK noises in Mario Kart Adam please post Adam please you guys need to hear Paulson's Donkey Kong impression it's really funny got enough topic I apologize but Majora's Mask is probably like I haven't heard that reasoning before that it's like the least Zelda of all Zelda games but even though I actually I think I have just Zelda it just doesn't use all the same plot devices well I mean like so it's tone is different from the rest of the entire series mm-hmm yeah so it's also not not the least Zelda game though what do you think is though the CD is I rule Warriors is pretty not Zelda like Warriors isn't a Zelda though that's a that's Dynasty Warriors with a Zelda skin on it it's like my favorite game right now I mean it's a great game Warriors yeah every time I every time I talk to you on Skype or anything I always hear just like sound effects from higher Warriors in the background just constantly all the time yeah it's really good I remember Katie had that same period and Jeff too did you get the um Majora's Mask DLC oh yeah I did I exclusively play as Young Link yep what about Giant Cuckoo I have not got that one yet no you need to it's amazing all that matters is Young Link can't you play as when you get like the offering time you'll see you play as the the guy from the Gorons the leader of the Gorons what's his name we are extremely Darunia Darunia it's fine yeah him he's like a regular character oh okay I thought he was in DLC no no no you can play him right off the bat you actually have to play him I always they don't give you a choice kid here here's the Masked Sword I don't I don't want it take it if you use it play as the big Goron and just kind of slap people around with your giant hands with your giant giant hands as opposed to your little hands the great fairies that would be fantastic what if you could play the Legend of Zelda as Master Hand uh yes cheating uh Jeff your favorite Zelda is Majora's Mask but what is your least favorite Zelda do you have a definitely favorite in the series that's a good question hang on let me think I don't really know I'm trying to think of one that I disliked maybe start with something that like the most irritating moment you've had in the Zelda game Spirit Tracks Spirit Tracks is not a moment in the Zelda game it is a Zelda game in itself the entirety of the game the entirety of the game was a f***ing was one long moment of just a moment that I want to forget he had many moments I don't think I ever actually played Spirit Tracks good I gave it a try recently it was f***ing well it was that's unfortunate I'm sorry I don't know I think looking back on it it was a game that probably frustrated and annoyed me the most probably Ocarina of Time really I think Jeff you might be my favorite guest now I mean there was a lot of moments where it was just kind of like yeah do whatever and you're like what what what do I do and you just kind of like wander around what do you mean Naby was always telling you what to do in the game hey listen well she would like tell you what to do and then other times just kind of be like I wonder what we do and you're like great I'm so glad that you're here gotta find Zelda thanks Naby I know that yeah it was like sometimes when you knew what to do like when you were explicitly told by somebody else Naby would still remind you and then other times when you had no idea when it was just totally left for you to figure it out Naby wouldn't tell you anything I'm not hoping to do this one you're the worst not as bad as Fi actually I'm sorry it's Fi does anyone say Fi I don't say Fi I don't really care I just really didn't like the blue lady that came out of the master sword hey Adam who's this sixth person I really liked her oh with special guests on the podcast Zach Hadel oh you know what this is the podcast I've always wanted yeah I mean Zelda's pretty bad it's pretty terrible you look pretty terrible yeah anyway but seriously Fi was worse than Naby in that regard but Ocarina of Time I think I had the most moments where I was just like I hate this game agreed but in terms of sidekick Fi will always be the worst you know who we the best okay tell him Sarah tell him who's always going to be the best who Sarah I mean I agree with that actually he meant his best no she's not as well as well as pretty good yeah as well as the coolest the uncle from Link to the best he dies in like the first 10 seconds of the game but he tells you to stay home because he cares about you everyone else tells you to go into danger later on he tells you how to defend yourself he's pretty good he actually teaches you things hold the B button and then let it go you'll be fine uncle what's your name I don't remember if you're getting it I'm dead actually another thing about it him and I guess Link's sister and Wind Waker those are the only two family members you ever see of Link actually right what about his grandma do you see his grandma soup oh she oh okay I didn't know I didn't play Wind Waker I just know he had a sister in that game yeah you see his grandma and she's all like dying and whatever and then you give her a fairy and she makes you soup sounds great sounds accurate sounds like a typical day dude that soup is super baller it like it restores all your health and magic and makes your what the hell topic were we even on anymore we're talking about grandma she's dying the listeners emailed in and said they would like to meet to link and get some grandma soup so we're on topic then it's fine yeah kind of dude tune link seems like a cool guy I would party to like I would party with as low I'd take as oh I actually think that is head out of all of the links the Lincoln Wind Waker is by far the most badass which is technically also the same one in Phantom Hourglass because of the head spear thing or stabs the guy in the head well no because he didn't have he wasn't born as the spirit of the hero at all he didn't have the Triforce of Courage earned it he put it together he built it like Legos yeah and he restored power to the Master Sword everybody else just had power in the Master Sword he's the best link link to the past made the Master Sword better I mean yeah that's true he's like here's the Master Sword gonna make it way better by the time the tune link got the Master Sword it was worthless it's funny those later games piece of crap it was made of like Styrofoam a lot of the later games in the series seemed to have that recurring theme where you get to upgrade the Master Sword that's what he was talking about he didn't get to upgrade it he just brought it back and then he put back together a godly item he's a hipster and earned the title bringing it back it was like the spirit of the hero was dead and he brought it back the spirit of the hero bring things back he's a straight up gangster sexy back what? have you guys ever heard the Legend of Zelda gangster raps I've heard no there's like two that are really good speaking of songs hey guys what Zelda game has your favorite soundtrack what's your favorite song from all of Zelda I think of it in particular because of the bard and link tune worlds is one of the greatest things to happen in Zelda he plays songs from many games but only games in his timeline which makes the soundtrack songs really highly in tunes passed down through many generations the only other game I can think of that does this is Bastion with the gramophone and soundtrack intro and Adam will you bless us with an operatic rendition of your favorite song no I can sing you something after the podcast no no no no post say it after the credits if you're curious but yeah I guess Chris you could start my favorite Zelda game with music and all but it's more Majora's Mask because you can play all these songs in different instruments you can play with like trumpets from Deku Link you can play bongos with Goron Link you can play guitar with Zora Link and like you can form a band in the f***ing bar and you can form a band in the bar and you guys can play all these great songs and then you don't even have to play like the rest of the music like that they give you if you remember the tunes from the games before like not hearing of time then you can play them there in those instruments and it's so cool I like Wind Waker's music a lot the mask is has my favorite songs but Wind Waker's a close second Wind Waker for me really? yeah I'm gonna go with the link between worlds you suck and the reason for the wow you sir can see yourself to the door oh dude I've been hanging around the door this whole time he is a door Adam he's a door door for everybody once everybody enters this question I actually have a question on my phone the reason that I chose the link to worlds is because it takes all the good music from link to the past makes it way better and also the overworld theme I think in dark world they add that guitar and everything this sounds so good I feel like you should sing wow apparently I'm Katie now you both were in the chat I got confused what just because we're women may both sound the same I have a lot less of a sexier accent going on thank you very much this one is really really really hard for me to answer because I love the Zelda music I'm actually going to the symphony tomorrow which I guess for when this is released for when this is released it's yesterday I'll have been at the symphony yesterday nice how was it? I loved it I got the tingles oh get it my favorite individual my favorite individual song is the song of storms out of ocarina of time oh I love that song but my favorite soundtrack overall comes from skyward skyward sword I just threw up in my mouth I didn't enjoy the skyward sword how about that I didn't enjoy the actual gameplay of it but I loved it I will sit there and listen to the music because it's beautiful I mean that's me and the Twilight Princess music I will sit down and listen to the entire soundtrack listen deku palace win over game over deku palace actually Jeff you share the same opinion as our friend smooth in the groove friend of the show who's that? oh yeah when we talked to him I want to touch his beard and then I would give him a kiss on the mouth I want to pet his head listen I'm gonna tell him to his face whenever I do meet him and then he's gonna be like what and then I'm just gonna do it now that I think about it Jeff without the beard Jeff could look like him in a way but with more piercings and less beard so I don't look like him you look like him with a different face and facial hair and hair no they have a similar face piercings and you both have faces to start I'm straight I'm gonna kill you anyway since I guess everyone answered the question Jeff what did you want to ask us ask what your favorite form of Link is like Deku Link or Omlings or a Link or from a George Mask or just any of the games well now you've just made it into the whole thing which Link is the best which Link is your personal favorite it could be the worst Link like for example my favorite Link is Deku Link cause he's cute and awesome and can fly whatever Deku Deku the remaster what guy did you see that thing like in the original version it was just the tip of his hat and now it's like a menacing like brawling item my favorite form of Link is from the animated series that is actually not gonna lie top 3 because he's so different from he's so kind of putting away from form he tries to be himself they didn't make him like the other characters they actually decided let's fit the medium better and make him a character with a lot of personality let's make him someone who is a big shot because he is destined to be and not because of any sort of reason the Link in the show it's like yeah he's competent but it's all because like he was born with sort of that innate gift of just like being an inventing hero I don't know some courage or something call that chutzpah chutzpah bless you my favorite Link will always be tomblink in any iteration because he's pretty much the same in all of them and he's also my main in Smash Brothers same year yeah I love tomblink I've always liked his design he's so silly he's just he's crazy I love him even more with Eslo I feel like I was so mad when they put didn't put like an Eslo costume like thing for Smash Brothers I feel like they could put that in his DLC or something he has lobster pajamas that will look so cute right I like it I want that shirt so bad I want it he's always been adorable and very appealing to me because I like little Link do you want to kiss him because he's a little boy no I don't you know what we're already on the record for most cursing for an episode oh man I've been I've been doing I've been trying so hard not to swear and Chris is just cursing up a storm when I'm around Jeff I'm sorry Adam I didn't mean to do this I know I'm usually better Chris he's young he's a growing boy this is why who me or Link both that's why you like him so much you have stuff in common are we still on though which is our favorite Link topic I have a feeling whenever I see him mine's from mine's from Twilight Princess your favorite Link oh okay why is that I love how he starts off and he's just like I'm a farmer he's a little farm boy and then he has to like get serious and it feels like he actually grows throughout the actual game like he grows with with his interactions with the other players and it's a lot more dark and he he gets to experience a little bit of a love triangle towards the end there and I liked it he loves triangles and he doesn't know how to deal with it on the topic of Twilight Princess Link I do like that he actually had some training prior to his adventure though like he had his sword fighting tutor and it made a lot it made a lot more sense in my mind absolutely I mean that's that's kind of why I liked Link to the Past Link and why he's my favorite not just because not because not just because it's probably my favorite Zelda game but because it's not just that game he has several games that he goes through where he gains experience and he becomes the most experienced and most adventured of every Link and he just does the most with the Destiny I don't know I kind of appreciate that did we have another topic? we do but it kind of has nothing to do with Zelda that's fine and I don't think you can answer this Jeff we'll see hey Adam and Jake I don't know if he's around oh okay I love this question already you guys I'm gonna field this one it's fine you guys spend so much time talking about Hylian princesses and dank memes that you never properly introduced yourselves I can tell you're in school but what year are you guys what are you studying thanks as always for the amazing show Erin thank you for the topic Erin is this one for you guys please do Adam's kind of a jerk and he's also a Jew Chris is whatever at least they know my heritage Caleb is a cool guy yes Jeff why would you boost his ego I apparently don't exist well it was directed towards Chris Adam and Caleb no it wasn't directed towards Chris Adam it was Adam Jake and Caleb he was there my bad Jake I don't know Jake but I kind of want to say mediocre at best guys we have this Zelda Informer survey going on and rate the podcast no actually on that topic we we actually have a survey going on for the past couple of weeks trying to collect data on what you guys think about the podcast where you guys think it's going who do you like the best guests in terms of people on the cast themselves and just giving us ways that we can improve because we're trying to make this a better show for you guys so if you have any of your own suggestions please click that survey link in the description below if you've seen this on Twitter or whatever I mean if you've seen the Twitter post or anything it's probably also linked through there and if you have any fan topics anything of that nature send us to us at zeldinformerpodcast.com we really appreciate your input this week we're featuring a song by Zarek who sent us a Ruto Valley remix I listened to it on stop it was awesome I put it on my boyfriend was even like that's awesome and we were just listening to it on loop you have to vote for Topspin for the new host the Zelda Informer of the Zelda Informer not even the podcast just everything yeah exactly the whole thing okay should we answer Aaron's question I forgot what it was do you want to start I'll let you go and I'll follow your lead alright cuz that's what you do my name is Adam I say this every week like three times I am in I'm in my starting my junior year this fall and I'm studying game design at the University of Central Florida I got involved in Zelda Informer through one of the bigger copy editors Jeffrey some of you have read his articles and through a smaller group that I started called Zelda Miss Informer which is parody news satire that sort of thing thank you to anyone who is from there cuz you guys were rad I really feel like I was appreciated a lot of the time favorite ice cream flavor it's between coffee and vanilla bean cuz I love coffee and vanilla bean is pretty rad and thank you for being a listener it's off to you Caleb mine's not gonna be nearly as sappy as that but uh you know I'm Caleb I like Metroid and Castlevania a lot favorite games the world ends with you my name is Caleb and I like to say don't I don't like when Adam sings over me I like Topspin's laugh a lot it reminds me of my own I like mint chocolate chip ice cream if it's not green you're doing it wrong and is this why you like Shrek I mean yeah and Spider-Man's my favorite hero that's it Spider-Man is rad like about a month ago and I went to that Gerdele square place where the Gerdele ice cream and chocolate Gerdele? Gerdele? Gerdele same stuff I mean one is more letters okay Adam Jesus so I went there and I was ordering a cool thing it was like it wasn't a shake or something it was just some delectable ice cream slash shake type of thing and I wanted the mint flavor those dirty people said they ran out they ran out oh my god so mad how dare they run out of stock how dare they run out of mint ice cream you should have broken all of their pots I was about to go pissing their chocolate fountain you should have legitimately killed someone I was so mad like I said I ordered espresso flavored wow way to compromise you espresso owed yourself anyway I guess we can either do like let Jake do his own next time or do you want to try to just ask him to answer next time no Chris isn't allowed to do one so do you guys want to talk about the news this week or do you want I mean we could we have enough time we could talk more about I'd like to learn like get the audience to know you a little bit more Jeff talk about the news Splatoon is getting another global testifier this weekend oh yeah I'll probably miss it like I did last time people went crazy over the last one did any of you play it no I thought about it friend of the show you what Jeff well I thought about getting it and then I didn't it was a demo you basically play for free if you had a Wii U I'm staying completely blind until it comes out really yeah I'm really excited for it I don't want to the internet went nuts over the test fire sure did like there I was on I've been on tumblr twitter whatever everywhere there's just fan art just flooding kind of made me want to puke a little bit people already have their own like squid sonas whatever they're called splatoon oh did you see um peanut butter gamer actually got the amiibo for splatoon like Nintendo sent them to him yeah I saw Nintendo fangirl the same I was like god dang it I mean he won Nintendo what the heck I heard challenge him to a fight and then you can get the amiibo I haven't I haven't played it but uh Paulson did and he was at Paulson a.k.a. Scrooge the animator he told me that he had a lot of fun he said it was the next it's gonna be like the next big thing they said the amiibo quality for splatoon is way better that they really are fixing a lot of the problems that were going on smash bros release the the qualities I mean they there was for the super mario set from I think mark was a mario the uh second game to get amiibo with the gold statue mario and the mario party 10 yes I think it was mario party 10 yeah mario party got him uh yes but the amiibo were much better I heard mario party 10 was okay in some modes it's mediocre too I mean everyone I mean the common you know the common sense is that like the earlier games were the better ones you know what happens when you make 10 of something I mean ask I don't know man there's been 10 seasons of it's always sunny and like it's they've been really good they've been really on point it's always sunny and Hyrule would be an amazing show oh god who would what if link was like Charlie day oh my god now I would be all over that what if Danny wake up don't worry about it oh please and then Dennis could be like Dennis is zelda no no Disha I feel like I have to make I feel like Dennis is more of a zelda but I'm trying to think who the other two carries me I want rickety cricket to be zelda oh my god alright we need to stop this what's up go check out it's always sunny guys it's on netflix and it's a fantastic show have you guys seen the reviews for the witcher 3 not you've not very good lots of inappropriate adult stuff downgrade of graphics of graphical integrity or something like that show on that for a quick second sure I feel like Caleb is gonna say what I think he's gonna say you probably there was a time where CD Jack said something along the lines of please don't say that we're gonna downgrade our game what did they do downgrade the game so shut up CD project go ahead guys uh but I mean I heard a lot of good things I haven't played it yet actually I just got the witcher 2 enhanced edition on steam for like two bucks so you're going to play bad game I'm going to play a game that leads up to third game the witcher 2 is a bad game it's like playing Zelda but without all the fun I don't know man I heard it was pretty good it was okay I played it for two dollars for two dollars I mean that game is worse than wind waker to me I mean I have never played wind waker what's wrong with wind waker do you want to fight right now is that what's going on do you want to go on a fetch quest because that's wind waker I mean I agree it has a lot of faults but damn I wouldn't call it bad Caleb has faults you're right but that's why I love him seems like a chill dude alright I would party with Caleb dude I partied with Caleb one time and we like we hikued with each other and it was phenomenal that was phenomenal we hikued alright what's next I have a little idea here so friend Jeff friend of the show is what we'll call you so you are a man of some very nice talents especially in the art field I don't know about that you are the lovely artist I deny these allegations I don't know if that's true you're known on the internet as topspin the fuzzy aren't you a game grump or something I wish he's done a game grump anime yes that's correct I did too one of them was on their channel cool stuff actually the first time I've ever seen your stuff was probably the Wind Waker one you did oh yeah I love that one it's amazing you did great pretty alright dude you did phenomenal Jeff a lot of artists that I see have this problem that I think that you don't which is this doesn't really have anything to do with the Wind Waker that sort of thing but the ghost ship animation they did but just in general whenever I see your art you have a lot of motion to it everything seems to feel very alive and a lot of people seem to have a problem with that where a lot of people go for a pose as opposed to a character they go for putting a character in a position as opposed to having a character do a thing and I feel like even a pose for you just has energy to it it's very rare that you see that sort of thing that you see that sort of like excitement just in the actual art itself yes no problem but besides the art you also do a lovely podcast known as the doodle club podcast what's it like doing a podcast I've never wanted to I've always wanted to do one before but I've never had the opportunity I know right I wanted to ask more about your animation work a little bit before we got into that yeah yeah maybe our lab is too similar it scares me come on so you recently did an animation with rice pirate you have the miss quick speed draw that you recently released how did you get to work with like we interviewed Mick last week what was it like working on was it sonics what was it like working on that doing that sort of stuff pretty relaxed actually honestly the whole alright time for a story the whole way I got involved in that project was one day when I was super tanked I decided to tweet at Mick and just be like alright as an animator if I wanted to help out the sleepy cabin how would I go about contacting you guys and then he just followed me and then he sent me a message and was like add me on Skype and I was like what and then we chatted for a bit sent me the script for sonics a little bit afterwards and I was like if this is something you're interested in working on and I was like hell yeah and then yeah and then I would just kind of go back and forth with him like giving him updates and seeing if like it was all cool and if he wanted me to change anything and yeah I remember him saying that working with you was a very pleasurable experience because you tend to he said that you have this knack for knowing what he wanted without him even telling you yeah well I mean I kind of I kind of make sure to get a few questions out of the way when we were initially talking about it like what kind of thing he was going for so that I had an idea and then I just kind of went forward with how I viewed that idea and I guess it just kind of lined up like that I just want to add onto sonics you did that cartoon with rice pirate on Novarky and also Paulson screw it yeah screw it and Novarky were the voices were some of the voices in it and they did a fantastic job I was quite pleased working with their wonderful voices what is it like you do doodle club which you do work with some other animators and artists on what is it like kind of being a part of the sort of online community where you work with other people in this sort of medium it's not really a job that other people can have my gosh it's super bizarre to me actually because it's only just started happening within this last like few months so the whole experience is weird and new so I don't really know what to think of it yet because I'm like trust me when the con start coming up then it gets even weirder you are going to your first convention I am going to too many games where is that it's in Oaks, Pennsylvania do you have to say it like that welcome to Oaks, Pennsylvania no I just couldn't remember if that's what I actually called it's in the greater whatever you can find it on the website too many games dot com and yeah it's got a bunch of cool people other than that what are you working on lately I've got one thing that's a secret and I've got another thing that is it's a monster hunter parody cartoon and I'm working on a motion conic as well so that'll be fun and past that I'm just kind of throwing ideas around nothing's really coming of those yet but yeah and speed paints and whatever and that's it now Jeff if anyone were to want to follow you later or even go on to support you where would they go for said places, said items well you can follow me on the twitter at topspinthefuzzy we'll have all the things that you can do to check out his stuff you can support me on patreon it's also topspinthefuzzy you can basically find me everywhere if you look in your mailbox you can find him if you go in your backyard behind the trees with binoculars I'm looking under my bed right now he's here say hello Jeff oh god oh no oh anyway but yeah with E3 coming up the nintendo world championship announced recently how to enter it there's gonna be like 8 best buys across the country we're running out of time and I wanted to just get into this really quick because we're E3 time is upon us yeah 8 best buys across the United States that's what they did last year with the smash bros and they did it with another game I think last year it was Mario maker I think they're doing it as well yeah that's what they were doing with Mario maker okay there's a couple of conferences that are coming up Nintendo's having their conference on Sunday before E3 what are you looking forward to at the event from Nintendo from other companies are you hoping that we might get another Zelda title announced what do you think Star Fox I kinda want another Metroid game announced and I also kinda wanna see more about that Star Fox game and more about Zelda U the thing is that there's going to be a playable demo for Star Fox probably that's what I'm looking forward to pretty sure that was already confirmed they would show us more later in the coming months Star Fox is coming out this year it's gotta be E3 it's gotta be playable yet and they said they're not gonna have E3 no Zelda development because they have a lot of new ideas which gives Metroid some room to breathe yes and be overshadowed by Captain Toad 2 yeah well man actually I don't have as much of a problem with Captain Toad as I initially did I don't think anyone can at first I thought it was kinda stupid but then I saw some of the gameplay well no when I first heard of it is what I mean and then when I saw some of the gameplay I'm like alright this is creative and fun I can't hate on this I got that game for Christmas you know it used to be a Zelda title Captain Toad is that so really? would you swear by that in court? I would would you? no spooky court it's the most court like of all court what? have you ever mentioned spooky court on the digital club podcast? probably not what is spooky court for us that don't know? it's court for nonsense memes and ghosts something that has come up in conversations memes and ghosts memes great that we're ending this in such a beautiful note Jeff I hear you're managing memes oh yeah absolutely aim all day hashtag meme please now I think it's about time we should wrap it up I want to thank you guys for joining me Sarah, Chris, Caleb, Jeff it's a fun episode and anything that you guys want to say before we say goodbye thank you for listening to the Zelda and horror podcast this has been Chris, please vote for me I need your support don't vote for Chris, whatever you do yeah I hate Captain Toad because every time I beat it it says I have to beat it again thanks for joining us you heard me can you add another option to the poll that is just beating up Chris no because that'll just win that's the place where I'll get the most votes where people will beat me up yeah exactly I would absolutely, I would love to fight Chris thanks for listening to the podcast everybody Jeff you will destroy it I promise you share whatever thanks for your questions thank you for submitting your fan topics theme songs, everything like that take the survey, thank you for that as well please take the survey please listen to please enjoy Zorak's Gerudo Rally Zorak's Gerudo Valley remix end of the episode what Gerudo Thanks for listening Gerudo Valley, bye bye guys see ya I don't want to hey guys this is Adam I just decided to record that song since someone asked none of the people are here I'm just doing this for myself after the podcast but uh I'm gonna be singing Apartment by Young the Giant so here's a bit of it I guess wait yeah so there you have it thanks for listening to this week's episode check out more next week hopefully you go back and listen to other ones share with your friends fill out our survey follow us on twitter love you guys bye