This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network We are on to week number four in the NFL and week number four has some pretty fun matchups on taps Specifically not the Broncos bears. Sorry Ryan not the Panthers and Vikings But we've got the bills and the Dolphins just around the corner And I think it's time to start talking about Dolphins futures Start talking about their ceiling what they could possibly do in that department as a kind of I guess Appetizer for that game coming this weekend. We're gonna do that today talk about the dolphin ceiling talk about stock up stock down Coming off a week three, then I'll get my first look at week number four as well all later on today This is covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network and Fandall research My name is Jim Sonnis. I am a managing editor of digital media for Fandall research Joined here as I am every Tuesday by Ryan Williams check him out on Twitter at Ryan Alexander underscore W Ryan we are on to week number four. How are you doing today? Oh, we're doing we're doing all right, Jim We're doing fantastic. We're on the week four. We're almost a quarter of a way through the season Just insane to think about I get it. I got an article that I need to be working on here Jim as we think about futures in the quarter way through but but no man. This is this is fine. I think they're Straight matchups that are on tap We're gonna talk about that futures market and kind of see what's happening there And I think you know what I've been saying so far this year is No, he can you know grind through and make it, you know You know the Bengals it could be okay and watch out and we saw that kind of come to fruition last night Just how much this team can rally around, you know They're starting quarterback and make life a little bit easier for him to be able to game-manage quote-on-quote As they look to kind of write the ship after starting 0 and 2 Yeah, the Bengals when we talked yesterday morning markets kind of implied borough would not play but you do wind up going They didn't cover the closing sprigs. It was three so they pushed on that but dig at the win I'm showing money or value on the the Bengals money line this week against Tennessee That's a situation where they encourage you to throw against them That might be kind of tough. Not sure if we'll actually pull the trigger on that That is not in the discussion later on for my first look a week number four But it was he did look better as a game went along at least so I Feel like that was somewhat encouraging like they won the game Ryan even though T Higgins had I for the second time this year like a nightmare nightmare performance Yeah, he And I know he left the game. I believe came back into the game to kind of finish that out there It was there were actually conversations about you know, both Jamar's contract and T's contract being up and who they're going to pay and that is like a Fireball offense if you select T Higgins over Jamar Chase and like no no offense whatsoever to Jamar or to T Higgins But like we saw last night that Jamar Chase is just you know, there's a reason why he's argued To be one of the best receivers in the league Because of what he's able to do with his you know former quarterback there at the home when they were in college So yeah, I think those those debates can be put to rest Absolutely, and Jamar Chase fantastic didn't get the touchdown for you last night, but he did everything but that so Good showing by Chase despite the no touchdown for him at last night We're gonna dive into the futures market talking about the Dolphins, you know What their true potential is relative to the rest of the AFC especially with some teams struggling the AFC right now And then take a look at other futures Ryan likes before week three before war week four And I'll take a look at the opening spreads totals and money lines at Fandall sports book But first a reminder to make sure you're subscribed to the covering the spread podcast feed wherever you get your podcast You can also find us on the Fandall YouTube page and on Fandall TV plus to get Fandall TV plus Go to Fandall comm slash watch or download the Fandall TV plus app on Amazon fire Apple TV or Roku devices Log into your Fandall account to watch up at Adams live. You can also Check out covering the spread at the solo shot of Tom Vecchio for the rest of this week And then also the heat check NFL podcast with myself and Brandon Gadoula every Monday and Thursday Breaking down NFL DFS all over on Fandall TV plus Let's kick things off here Ryan by talking about the Miami Dolphins because they lit it up in week three posting a 70 burger against the Broncos and I Think people broadly give them a lot of respect because they're going on the road facing Buffalo this week just two and a half point dogs in a very tough spot, but There's still not you know among the favorites to win the Super Bowl right now as we pull up these Super Bowl odds over at Fandall sports book Miami sitting currently down at 10 to 1 and they are plus 550 to win the AFC so Ryan Do they tempt you in those markets or do the concerns around The fragility of this offense kind of relying on two or three guys. Is that worry you enough where you're okay? Missing out on the Dolphins in those higher upside markets Yeah, I think at this point. I'm okay Jim only because and you know hate to Bring it back to last year, but we did see this not 70 to 20 in week three But we did see them start off hot last year again, and we know how much rides on the health of Tua with the concussions and you know Lingers out for me as like how much he dealt with last year and if for some reason like that comes to fruition again this year You know that the If you had any futures on the Miami Dolphins at the start of the season like you are holding on The 10 to 1 is interesting the 5 to 1 in AFC, you know, it just it's too it's too heavy for me right now Just to buy into I think the Buffalo Bills match up this week is is I Able to handle business in that game, which I'm not even sure if it's on the are they home or away for that game They're visiting Buffalo. Yeah, yeah in Buffalo. So that's it. That's One that I definitely want to look into they are just such a fun team. You love the defense on that side They're doing this without Jalen Ramsey You see Tua and Jalen chumming it up on the sidelines Against Denver.  I'm just I'm just gonna have to eat crow and and live with it if the dolphins are you know better than the chiefs the Bengals if they're fully healthy the Buffalo Bills if they're fully healthy And and others like we Bengals and Ravens can make some noise as well to have been there before It does get concerning to me when we talk about them being in you know, AFC divisional AFC championship In their first time being there, but they do have playmakers across the board Waddle coming back healthy It's gonna be huge for them And you know, I don't know that the backfield goes out and scores seven or eight touchdowns Whatever the heck they put up this this weekend every time, but it's been incredible to see Yeah, I think that the concern there is valid just because again It's kind of like the Rams when they made their run to Super Bowl like they were dependent on like, you know A couple pieces it wasn't the deepest roster and I think the dolphins are kind of similar and the Rams did that So that's possible for the dolphins, but like, you know It's it's tough and for sure. I think the other reason you can justify not buying in right now is that You expect the chiefs offense to figure things out long term They did it in a way on Sunday against the Bears I'd expect the Bengals as Joe Burroughs calf injury gets better to improve The bills have already shown that they're kind of over their week one rust stuff like that So I think it's a combination of concerns around injuries along with the fact that we expect these other AFC powerhouses to trend up as the year goes along Let's take a look back at week number three ride and talk about teams that got the biggest boost for you Following week three when you look at and try to you know, sort out your power rankings the way you view teams across the league Which teams shifted your perception of them most with what they did in week three? Yeah I gotta talk about the indianapolis Colts. We've talked about this afc soft division kind of being you know one that Might be wide open if Jacksonville can't get it together and yet again Jacksonville is showing that they They can't get it together and i'm not losing all hope in them But you know, they're doing this with the backup quarterback. There's a reason why they went out and signed gardener minch you Um to kind of you know take you you love when teams put themselves in a position where hey If our starter isn't working out like we have a backup plan and not to say that Anthony Richardson was always going to be the guy who was their number one to lead them But like garner has played in some you know played in some big enough games where you know We thought yeah if they if they want to trot this guy out or whatever They could be competing and this is without jonathan taylor This is without some other pieces who haven't been fully fully aligned and healthy But when you're looking at their odds so in the afc south they're at plus 280 third highest favored odds Behind tennessee and jacksonville like tennessee will talk about them and suck down Jaguars as well that believe they have two london games in a row if i'm not mistaken they have a little across the pond Time for them But uh, yeah the colts You know just the way that they were able to kind of handle that game against the ravens who we've both been kind of High on uh at the start of this year that definitely showed me A lot of promise for them going forward if they can get some of these pieces back and and aligned I actually want to stick in the same division and talk about the houston texans because that game against the jags I think you could view it as stock down for the jags and that's fair because they had some really brutal drops They have an execute of the way you'd expect them to But also houston won that game by a pretty wide margin Obviously the kickoff return touchdowns fluky don't you know factor that in but even beyond that that's still like a 13 or so Point win for them. That was that larry mey tunsel. That was with no jail in petrie. That was with no derrick stingley and those are three of their key pieces But cj strad's kind of just a dude. I think and So they're plus 750 now. They do have a couple losses already They lost the ravens obviously in week one lost to the the colts in week two. So that's a big factor for sure and that could justify the colts at plus 280 given where they're at right now, but I also I don't think i'd want to like bet the texans to win the division I think the gap is pretty big like bigger than it should be at plus 750 the tech the texans Wind total is over five and a half minus 162. I kind of wish I'd get an alt over on them I know that they're they're again one and two so far. They lost a pretty winnable game in week two with the colts game, but I do feel like the texans are a bit undervalued right now Broadly i'm going to bet them this week, which we'll talk about later on as well But I think the texans are a bit undervalued. So honestly ryan the asc south is a fascinating division You mentioned the the jags and the titans coming up short I feel like it probably would make sense to to lump them in with the stock down for week three as well Yeah, jags and bill They still have enough to write the ship. I feel like and you know This is where they're going to need to dig deep in these london games as i'm looking at their Schedule here and going against atlanta then going against buffalo. I mean that that's really tough this atlanta game is Dare I say a must win as they're looking at one and three if they lose that game then going into buffalo like that could be one and five That's danger zone But you know, you're looking They have a week nine buy and then after that buy It does get a little bit dicey with two games against sand fran and Cincinnati I'll be at both of those games are at home But then you're looking at you know a couple of their divisional matchups They do also have to play baltimore and they have kind of a cupcake schedule to end But yeah, you would have loved to see them, you know really much Get to the week nine buy with their only two losses being to kansas city and buffalo So that used to want to kind of put them at a little bit of a disadvantage there I just expect a little bit more than them from them and the tennessee titans like Jim over the summer. I kind of talked about this team Potentially being like having the worst record It in football and you know The concerns there for me were that I just really didn't feel like they dressed the you know Quarterback position enough like we weren't getting much talk about will levis kind of taken over at any point like ryan tennahill Has showed us that he's just kind of been on the decline and this offense really has been on the decline Since they moved away from a j brown. Um derrick henry, you know, he's hitting that 30 plateau, right? And so you're starting to see even taje spears The rookie running back out snap him and he just doesn't have this similar juice As we're used to seeing and rightfully so he's been you know pretty much putting this team on his back like a jansport backpack For the past five years But yeah, I think they're in they're in real big trouble Like we're looking at they're over under a seven and a half wins Like I don't see any merit on how you can take that right now even with it being at minus 110 So um, yeah, they're they're definitely stuck down for me. Yeah, I'd agree that too. And I think that it's a combination of things where They didn't have their best offense lineman this past week So losing big to the browns kind of excusable But that also means that their best offensive lineman is a rookie who had never played a snap in the nfl He's played one game and he's probably their best offensive lineman That game when they got down henry was not a factor in tennahill looked a lot a lot like he didn't week one where Just seemed like there wasn't a lot of juice left in the tank there de under hopkins is like a obviously a very good player But can he revive a passing offense that lacks juice like that? I don't know, you know, um, I don't want to count him out by any means, but I'm skeptical in general so It's tough there. That's part of why I have some interest in checking out the Texans if I could get I would like an alt win over, uh, you know over six and a half or something like that I think that would be Interesting for them because they've not played the titans as of yet And I think that this passing offense can shred that passing defense. So I agree. I think the the titans and the jags definitely belong in the stockdown bucket any other stockdowns or stockups from week three for you rime Yeah, i'm just looking here very quickly. Uh, I mean Stock up and i'm just gonna keep riding this wave even though they only won the game by three last night But you know if the bingles if joe burrow is just able to be healthy and be out there and like this is probably You know, not the not the worst Case scenario the worst game that he could have possibly be in but we we knew that rams defense was going to be coming for him And you know the offensive line their best to to keep him upright And so it's just going to be more days of getting healthy You're looking at their over under win total right now being at nine and a half and that seems about fair and right Plus 128 if you think they're going to win 10 Winton gets a 10 wins and that's pretty much what you think they'll need like going against baltimore there So that seems favorable even for them to make the playoffs right now gym Is plus 100 on the fan dual sports book and I absolutely love that number Because they avoided that dreaded, you know, oh and three hole and we talk about stock down I'm not willing to put them there just yet because of the division they plan The nfc north is the worst division in football like I don't think it can be argued at all In the green bay packers might end up running away with this with uh with jordan love yet to be determined But you know the vikings they have been in one scored games all of their losses have been by Less than seven points. I talked about them last week of kind of having some merit if you if you chose to You know bet on this team, uh, you're looking at six and a half wins Uh, not very promising there even with the minus 134 number But I believe they're plus money to make the playoffs as well too Um and again with all these teams making the playoffs and why I say this gym is that they have not played a divisional opponent yet They are going to you know have have that start to come to fruition soon all of these You know games have been out of they out of the division and so and so when you're looking at it Like they do have a you know a couple games left where it's like man, you know Kansas City chiefs and a couple other playoff teams that look like a gauntlet But you know you get in the packers twice. You're getting uh the bears twice You're gonna play the lions twice Uh, and if you can win these divisional games then you're all the sudden like even with your out of out of division out of conference If those are losses like you could still make some headway Um against this Against the against the fold there. Um again, you know the packers they still got you're talking about the same opponents They're still gonna have to play the chiefs and some of these other tougher matchups I believe Sam France on schedule for these guys. So, um, I'm I'm not willing to stay one way of the other But it definitely is concerning that they have an oh and three Start to the season Yeah, and I think that the concern there would be do they tear things down if they if they really struggle Now we don't see that often in the NFL mid season because trades don't happen very much And who it's a cat's face to take on Kirk cousins, which would be like the quote-unquote tear it down move They have no Viable backup they want to you know take get a look at so I think that that helps like it's not a tennessee situation where You've got levis and willis sitting behind tannahill Like jaren hall, uh nick mullen's probably not going to be the guys for the vikings long term So I think that does help in that regard Uh the lions taking on the packers on thursday night I think that game is pretty fun probably gonna bet the lions money line because I know myself um, but I think that uh Yeah, it's it's grim for the vikings. So I get why there'd be some concern there any final futures ryan You want to plug in before week number four? Yeah, uh, let's go over the rushing props and this is one that I was going to bring up Last week before we kind of ran out of time But you know with nick chubb with the nick chubb injury I thought that just opened the door up for so many variable things to kind of happen in this market here The one that's kind of interesting Even at these yards prop, uh, which is 20 to one But uh if I scroll down here rushing touchdowns kind of walker comes in at 13 to 1 and he's you know Probably second or third uh last I checked Yeah, uh, he's actually tied for third with uh with uh kairan williams now for red zone touches And really been able to convert there and we know how much Seattle put stock into giving their running backs opportunities when they get into the 20 and close Or uh, it's a pay dirt. So I think that he has some merit there To kind of pay that off, you know, tony pollard is interesting He leads all running backs with 24 attempts inside the red zone Only converting for two touchdowns, which is concerning and the dallas offense right now like deck is very concerning I wasn't willing to put them in stock down mode But that's just definitely something I want to monitor because Um, they might need to lean on tony pollard a little bit more So both of these guys seem reasonable, you know where he mosted there being at 11 to 1 this guy has Five touchdowns right now and only eight carries inside the red zone. He's doing most of his scoring In damage outside, but you know, I do think it's an interesting market one that I want to keep an eye on Um as well as we get uh through the season I like the the pollard shout for both markets actually 13 to 1 To lead in rushing touchdowns and he is 7 to 1 I believe for rushing yardage if I scroll up Yeah, 7 to 1 to lead in rushing yardage first three games. He had 14 carries in that giant's blowout He had 25 and then 23 Red zone usage a 40 red zone share So percentage of team carries or targets inside the red zone 40 week 1 48 week 2 45 week 3 So I think pollard is actually in play for both of those Especially because we saw Elijah Mitchell get more involved in week number 3 to give christian mccaffrey a bit of a breather So mccaffrey plus 260 maybe that could be a little bit shaky there as well Bijan Robinson gets spelled for tyler al jeer So I think that pollard specifically in the rushing Yardage market is pretty intriguing touchdown market 13 to 1. I'm also Interested in that jenna hurts a plus 950. Thanks to the uh the sneaks. Um, so that's uh interesting as well But I think that the pollard shout ryan is is a good one and one that i'm on board with Yeah, and even when you were looking at both of those guys with what pollard and and walker there when you're looking at their touches Like, you know, because I think there was some concern there that you know, riko riko duato and uh induce von are going to be getting some work with Dotto. He's only got 21 touches compared to pollards 74 kind of walker has 55 compared to charbonne's 19 Um, so both of those guys are kind of separating themselves from the rest of the back food That's definitely something that we you know want to take advantage of Yeah, I'd agree with that. Uh dowdle seems like it's more just kind of giving a spell every now and then Um, he's gotten high profile spells because that was kind of like an island game effectively this past week Where there were no other games on uh, and of course you saw him sunday night against the in that giants game So I think his role is a bit overstated because he's been up in key moments like pollard last week 87 snap rate. So He's definitely still heavily involved in that offense. Alrighty That is ryan williams. Make sure you check him out on twitter at ryan alexander underscore ryan a pleasure having you on here once again for today and this week have a good rest of your week We'll talk to you once again next monday for just a single monday football game next week Just a single. Yep. We're back to we're back to single. We're back to potentially having manning cast on Uh as as well too. So I guess all the all is right in the world But yeah, jim have a great rest of the week. Good luck everybody. 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So I'm okay taking the three here. My model does make the stealers favorites here by 0.76 points So I'd expect this to be a pretty tight game We know the steward's defense is very very tough and the prospect of having tj watch minkov It's patrick facing an offense that this past week was starting only one of its projected starting five offensive linemen That's pretty daunting But the texans offense has still been efficient through the air And they've had plus marks in both early down passing efficiency and laid down success rate And that's been without those starting offensive linemen where every tonsil played week one But I'd expect to be back this week and that'd be a big boost for houston again in this tough matchup with uh with tj watt They did a decent job of keeping the jags and check defensively Despite that secondary being banged up. They had no derrick stingley there. No jim and petri I'm not sure petri back. That's a long issue which is kind of concerning and stingley I think we'll sit see as a hamstring injury that it popped up midweek So secondary is banged up offense is banged up But the texans are playing well despite that so to me Getting three at home for a team that has looked pretty frisky thus far Kind of hard to turn down. So although I thought entering this year. I'd be hiding the Steelers quite a bit This is the second straight week. I've bet against them did not go well this past week against the raiders But I'm willing to go back again with the texans in week four and taking them plus four in this time around Second one for me will be a money line a pretty high profile matchup in the asc north That is the baltimore ravens taking on the cleveland browns and right now the ravens money line is plus 118 If handle sports book, I will take that spread here is two and a half Thus while I'm going towards the money line instead and it's tough to bet against cleveland's defense. They've been Insane so far. They rank Second and early down passing efficiency. They rank. I think fourth and early down rushing efficiency And then their second I believe in a late down success rate as well. So they've been phenomenal across the board When you look at what their defense has done so far and I don't think that's lucy based on Their personnel based on jim schwarz. I think that will keep up But even accounting for that accounting for the injuries that baltimore has I still make this Uh, a toss up with the brown saver by point three eight and again getting plus 118 when that's the case is Enough where I'm willing to uh, take the bait and go with the ravens here lamar jackson Has played decent. He's kept the offense chugging along well enough with no Tyler linda bomb linda bomb and ron is Stanley the past two weeks It hasn't been perfect by any means because they did, you know lose obviously to the colts, but it was a lot of mistakes Uh, they had a key drop in that game. Uh, they had a missed Uh, pass interference call and say flowers if they can cut out those crucial mistakes As kenny and drake had a lot at a fumble on the long run too I think that the offense should have some positive regression going forward, especially if we Get some of those key pieces who have been ouch back in the game On the opposing side, the browns offense did look really good. Uh, first game without nick chub But that was against the titans the titans They've bled production to passing games so far. They did earn early downs last year too. That's translating to late downs this year thus far baltimore has excelled As far as excelled defensively even with the injuries they've had So if every ravens player who sat last week winds up sitting again this week It's very possible to say just poorly But if we assume at least some of those guys come back They didn't practice which is concerning, but uh, I think we could get some of them back potentially I think that this will wind up being undervalued so the ravens plus 118 taking on the browns other money line Or the the first money line for me in week number four Second money line is on monday night football that seahawks taking on the giants right now. Seattle is plus 110 I show value here. Even if I assume that sake one barkley Plays for the giants and is fully healthy similar to nick chub sake one barkley is a guy who Does move the needle for me at least in my model because he impacts passing efficiency a pretty good amount If we downgrade barkley even a tiny bit, this would be even a bigger value For me right now my model does make seattle favored here by 0.49 points So getting plus money on the money line pretty attractive Seattle's offense has been very good on early downs both passing and rushing They just need to short things up on third and fourth down The giants have had one of the worst passing offense in the league on early downs Seattle's rush defense seems to be better than it was last year I'm questioning that because they have not faced the stiffest competition in that market They faced the rams. They faced the panthers I faced the lines that they didn't like gun Montgomery getting banged up in that game. So Maybe they're improved. I can't tell even when I just adjust for opponents They've still been good But still a bit early too called it's too early to tell There but it you know, maybe they're better able to handle sake one should he be able to suit up Because he is kind of a cyborg in that regard. So I'm fine being high on Seattle in this spot. I think plus 110 is pretty forgiving. So Spreads and money lines this week. I like the Texans plus three Ravens plus 118 in the money line and the seahawks money line at plus 110 Couple of totals I like and it's for both the toilet bowl games the two teams The two games where both teams are 0 and 3 thus far I like the under and both those which feels pretty good betting against those particular offenses Let's start things off here by talking about the vikings and the panthers That total right now is 45 and a half under his minus 110 and that's where I want to go Wind forecast here is at nine miles per hour If we were to assume that holds I have the total here at 42.1 So good chunk below Where it's that right now if I put the the wind at zero it does still show value in the under So some wiggle room there in case the wind speed should come down these two teams operated decent pace That's kind of one counterpoint to Liking and under here. I guess you could all say the defenses They're not good either, but Offenses are not perfect Uh, you get a win on 45 and a half at 44 and 45 I think that's attractive enough for me to plug this bet and now panthers and vikings They did put up points this past week 24 for the vikings and I think like 27 or so for the panthers Maybe if Andy Dalton plays they can push the ball once again. It's the Adam Thielen revenge game, but I just feel like there are enough factors at play here We should take the under at 45 and a half second one is The bears and broncos as mentioned that total right now is 46 and obviously if you're taking me under here, which I am You're betting against two of the arguably the two worst defenses in football so far this year But the offense are kind of bad too and that does matter at a certain point It's possible the broncos are due for some positive regression Because I don't think Russell Wilson is as bad as it might seem based on some of the numbers so far He also might be it could be I don't know I don't want to put all the blame on him But the offense has not been good thus far the bears obviously have not been good offensively And even if we assume some positive regression for the broncos That's not enough to bridge the gap between where my model is at and the total here I've got a 43 and a half on my end. That's with projected wind speed of five miles per hour Even if the winds were to decrease I should still show value here. So you could view it as betting against the betting An under on the two worst defenses in football But I choose you at the positive where we're betting an under on two pretty rough offenses so to me Unders for the bears broncos and vikings panthers games the way to go if you're going to bet those two toilet bowl games because I do show value there so to recap nfl for this week under for bears broncos at 46 minus 110 under for vikings panthers 45 and a half and minus 110 Seattle moneyline plus 110 ravens moneyline plus 118 and the texans plus three at minus 104 Before we close up shop for today Do you got to go back through recommendations from the show last week and let's start things off with dr Ed fang uh, we had him here on wednesday and thursday to talk college football in the nfl You can find ed on twitter at the power rake. Check him out at the power rake.com ed 2 and 0 this past week For college ed had kansas minus 8 and a half against b yu kansas closed as a nine point favorite here They were down 17 14 and a half time but kansas shredded in the second half They won 30 a 27 to cover the eight and a half and get a win for ed there on the nfl side of things Ed like cleveland minus three at tennessee That got to three and a half. I believe pretty shortly after we recorded but Didn't matter where you got it because cleveland romped they won 27 three never in doubt there So good week for addy's back with us once again tomorrow talking college football week number five Our props guest on friday was jj zack a recent check him out on twitter at late round qb and find his work at late round dot com jj had nico collins over 40 50 and a half receiving yards at minus 130 But it was tank del who dominated that game he had 145 yards Being on the texans passing game was good. Just you know, wasn't the right guy collins three targets He went under there other yardage that was kendrick boran under 35 and a half receiving yards mac jones Completed just 15 passes in this game But boran had four of those and he had the over uh 46 yards for um Born there so he did go over that number Touchdown bets were trying to see tianna minus 110 in a long shot on donovan people's jones at plus 4 80 tank big speed school goal Stole a goal and touchdown from etn so that one missed uh people's jones turned four targets into 49 yards But no touchdowns for him So we were due for some regression there based on how good of a star jj had had all happened to come into one week They'll be back with us once again friday to preview week number four We had ryan on yesterday to talk about the two monday night games He had the eagles minus four and a half obviously a coast to a victory there Total did not hit. He liked over 45 finished at 36 there. He did hit the total in the second game though That was bengal's rams. He liked under 43 and a half at minus 110 now when we talked It seemed like joe burrow would not play but burrow was announced in so the total i think closed at 45 and a half It still hit the under uh at 35 points a good call for ryan two and one in the traditional markets for those two games As far as props go he had dallas goddard k. Dotten and jamar chase for any time touchdowns Those guys did not score for their respective teams yardage bets were chris godwin over for 54 and a half in davante smith To have a longest reception of over 23 and a half yards godwin 32 yards They just kind of ran the ball too much never had the ball AJ brown got all the downfield work for the eagles and no over for davante smith Ryan though did hit on baker mayfield throw a pick that was minus 130 And of course that one did cash uh for ryan there in the NFL. I finished one in three this past week I had the bucks plus five and a half. It was a week where I got a lot of good closing line value, but Uh pretty bad results. Of course the bucks closed at I think it was four and a half on Monday morning. I think it got back to five and a half later on the day So no closing line value there, but to get it elsewhere and the bucks just didn't play well, you know And the eagles did so you could expect that based on the fact the eagles went to the super bowl last year But uh missed from me there I missed on the falcons lions over 45 and a half That one closed up a point of 46 and a half But the lions defense came to play finished with just 26 points and uh missed there I had the raiders money line on sunday night great movement there I got a minus 106 and it closed. I think in the minus 150s So awesome movement, but the stealers offense came to play. Um, I would not play in josh mcdanus for this one They shouldn't have been down 16 to begin with so the fact that he decided to kick a field goal That's not the reason they lost so good clv on both the Lions falcons over and the raiders money line But no wins there a bit of clv on the chiefs bears over 47 and a half that closed at 48 and a half And that one when it finished at 51 Chiefs put a 41 by themselves bears put up tens. That was a win there, but Frustratingly to get good movements and have bad results that can happen for sure. So Not sweating it too much given that the market was on my side but Definitely frustrating to feel good about bets during the week and have them not cash at the end of the day Things went better on the nascar side of things did hit a top 10 bet on the cup series side That was daniel suarez a plus 230 I didn't think he'd make it but there was a bunch of chaos towards the end of that race and Suarez took advantage finished 8th I also did did the winner william byron in the sunday update for the betting guide. So Again, I'd recommend checking out vandal.com slash research for updated betting guides throughout the week as more markets are posted and as We get qualifying and practice results too for Byron specifically is because he lengthened Post practice and qualifying didn't know the fastest car by any means But he did did win that race. Uh losses for me were martin shrieks jr. Plus 900 to win an austin synderk top 10 at 8 to 1 On the Xfinity series side of things I mentioned I had value on john hunter nema check plus 240 to win Other outrides for channeler smith at plus 2500 and rally herpes plus 3500 Uh herpes direct right away. So that didn't hit. Uh, but smith finished fourth Randomly well there and nema check one. So uh got the hit at plus 240 there mentioned There was a plus 275 out there for nema check as well. So good week in nascar for me felt pretty good about that and um Then a good year overall on the nascar side of things. Hopefully hopefully some of that luck translates the nfl side as well We started hitting on that In the near future That is all that we have here for today on covering the spread tomorrow We are back once again talking some college football with dr. Ed feng You can find that on the covering the spread podcast feed on the fandal youtube page and Over on fandal tv plus big. Thank you once again to ryan williams check him out on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w Back with us next week on monday and tuesday talk Monday football and futures following this equine week I am on twitter at jim sonnis j i m s a n m e s you can also follow fandal research at fandal research Want to thank you all for tuning in for today. Good luck to you with your bets across the next couple of days We'll talk to you once again tomorrow afternoon to preview week number five in college football This has been covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network