four o'clock clock on a given Monday. It's a little different than we normally do with reporting on Thailand and under energy. It's energy 808, cutting edge, but it's also Thailand. And we're calling this the Journalism Adventures of Hannah Beach. She's a New York Times reporter. She's reporting in Thailand about reporting in the time of COVID. Hi, Hannah. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you as well. Thanks for having me on. And full disclosure, Marco is related to Hannah. Another full disclosure is my niece's name is Hannah, so I feel a special affinity for you. And my niece is the daughter of Linda Greenhouse, who is my sister-in-law from the New York Times. Okay, Marco, welcome to the show. Where are you? You're in California now? The Democratic People's Republic of Santa Cruz, California by the sea. Okay. And Hannah, you have remarkably good reception for Bangkok, Thailand. That's terrific. Well, we'll see. It's the dry season, so the Monsons hopefully will not mess with the internet. So, Marco, the arrangement was that you would introduce your cousin. And I hope you do that now. Absolutely. Well, first I just want to say to Hannah and to you, Jay, and to everybody listening and watching, I'm just so incredibly pleased to be on with Hannah. This is something that I've been working on for a while to get Hannah on. I'm just so glad it's come to fruition. And Hannah and I go back a ways. I knew Hannah when we were both interested in things such as Find Waldo, remember Finding Waldo? And also our great affinity for the comic strip Tenta and Milu, which is a classic and people of the world over love Tenta and Milu. So Hannah was a lot younger then. I was a lot younger. Yeah. So were we all, Marco? How much time we got on this show? So were we all. Well, as long as it's going to take, Jay. And Hannah is the daughter of my uncle, Kai's Beach. Kai's was a Pulitzer Prize winning foreign correspondent reporting for major for decades. And Hannah is fathering, is fathering, is following in her father's footsteps and carving her own trail, blazing her own trail. And I just think so incredibly highly of Hannah and her family, her husband, two boys have had a chance to spend some time with them over the years. And yeah, I'm just so pleased, Hannah, that you're with us. And I read your writing whenever it comes out with great interest.  And I'm just so appreciative. So at least my first question. I'm working for a heck of a newspaper. And a heck of a newspaper. And it's newspaper in the world. And without the New York Times, I would not have gotten through the last four years. I'm telling you that now. A lot of people in that category, Jay, I agree. So my first question to you, Hannah, is what led you to kind of following the footsteps of your father? And yeah, just open with that. What called to you into this career?  How did it play out in terms of bringing you to where you are now? Yeah, I, you know, I think a lot of people don't want to do what their parents did. And my father was a journalist. My mother actually was a journalist as well. She's Chinese. And was a reporter for the Yomei Shimbun, the largest Japanese daily. And I think for a long time, I didn't want to be a journalist because who wants to do what your parents do. And then I discovered along the way that there were two things that I really liked doing. One was traveling. And I had grown up moving around every few years. I lived in Hong Kong and Bangkok as a kid. And the other thing that I really liked to do was write. And I thought about Foreign Service, but I'm probably not diplomatic enough to be able to make that work. So I looked at journalism and I, in 1995, I started passing at resumes. It was shortly before the Hong Kong handover. And I got a job as an editorial assistant at Time Magazine's Hong Kong headquarters. And I made coffee for a while. I fact-checked stories. And then I eventually moved to Beijing as a China correspondent and spent a lot of time in and around China. And then in Southeast Asia, back to China, back to Southeast Asia.  And to meet really interesting people. Is that it, Marco? Oh, I have lots of questions, of course, Jay. But I'm going to be a nice supply guide of my brother from a rather different mother and pass it over to you for a question or two, okay? He's trying to be nice today. What can I say? So I don't, you know, this is probably one of the most interesting beats in the world. But you have covered, I'm sure, historical things left and right. But you know, one of the things, one of the things that really stick on your mind in terms of the sea changes in Southeast Asia, the changes that are going on around you in Thailand and for that matter, Myanmar, what is your greatest interest in terms of picking stories that appeal to you as revealing the condition of that area to the world?  And yes, there's a lot happening in Southeast Asia, but it's just, it's just been this kind of head spinning moment where their headlines everywhere. And I think what's sort of interesting to me is to look at the way in which the trends in Southeast Asia fit into those larger themes, right, that are playing out globally. And one thing that you can certainly look at is the rise of populism, the rise of nationalist leaders, we see that in the United States, we see that in the UK, we see that in the Philippines, in Myanmar. To a certain extent, we see that in Thailand as well. And so sort of seeing the way in which Southeast Asia fits into the kind of slipstream of history is something that I find personally interesting. In terms of specific stories, I started, I moved back to Southeast Asia to Bangkok in August of 2017. And at the end of the month, the programs by the Myanmar military against the Rohingya started, I mean, they've been going on for decades. But the worst outbreak of violence which the US has deemed ethnic cleansing started in late August and then through into September. And I've been covering Myanmar for a while. And so I knew that this was something bad and this was something big. And I went with a photographer to Bangladesh right across the border from Myanmar, from Rakhine State in Western Myanmar, and just watched this stream of Rohingya coming over the border through incredibly mountainous forbidding terrain or coming through water. A lot of people drowned. A lot of people didn't make it. So that particular story as a humanitarian crisis, as an ethnic crisis, as sort of an example of the way in which our hopes that democracy as this grand ideology would take precedence over very complicated local ethnic issues. I think it was kind of a reality check because Myanmar had gone from this military dictatorship to a country that was being led by as a civilian leader by a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, Dhal Sasuqi. And I think that it turned out to be more complicated than this kind of wonderful heroine story that we that we believed in. So that in terms of kind of the visceral impact and also sort of showing the way in which historical trends are playing out in Southeast Asia. I think that was the real big one for me over the past three years. Americans don't really follow that in any detail. So it's great to have you as a resource to appreciate it. But at the same time, a couple of thoughts. One is is there ever a chance in this world, at least in our lifetimes, that Southeast Asia will come together, that it will have a greater notable collaboration among those countries, more trade arrangements, more interaction, political and social interaction between all the countries in Southeast Asia? Or is that a pipe train? Well, I think, you know, ASEAN, which is the Association of Southeast Asian States Nations, is a pretty toothless organization. But the fact of the matter is that trade in the region is growing by leaps and bounds. Trade with the United States, trade with China. It's this area is extraordinarily integrated within the global economy, you know, from from manufacturing auto manufacturing to semiconductors to services to tourism, which of course has been taken a pretty heavy hit with with the pandemic. But overall, the area is extraordinarily integrated within the global economy. But the thing is that Southeast Asia as a concept is something that I'm not even sure that Southeast Asians themselves think is something that that should be something that should be an entity because, you know, you compare Indonesia, you know, 250, 60, 70 million people, Muslim majority democracy, you have Cambodia, small, Buddhist majority country, you have the Philippines, which is a majority Catholic, Christian archipelago, you know, to the northeast in the region, you know, what ties this region together. And it's it's one of the things, you know, my title technically is Southeast Asian Bureau Chief. And it's hard sometimes to say what ties this region together. And I'm not sure that anything really should tie the region together, because it is so linguistically, culturally, faith wise, diverse. Well, let me offer a thought to you then in that regard. China, China, you know, is the is the cap of all of this. They all think about China every day. What will China do now? What effect will China have on us? What kind of strange things they got? China has up its sleeve. What kind of terrible things in Hong Kong? I mean, people must think about it that all the time. And I would imagine that bonds them together, worrying about China. No, I think you're right to a certain extent. Southeast Asia, in many ways, is akin to the Caribbean for the United States with the Monroe Doctrine, right? You know, it's it's China's backyard. China from kind of con times onwards has has moved forth. It colonized Vietnam for a millennium. Its imprint in Southeast Asia is very, very strong. And certainly economically, when first when the Soviet Union withdrew, and then when the United States over the decades has sort of withdrawn from the region into a certain extent, particularly over the past four years, there has been the sense that China is the one that has the money. It's the one that comes in with investment and promises of of soft loans. But the reality of it, of course, is more complicated, as we know. And that's another line of coverage that I've been focusing on quite a bit is sort of China's impact on the region, whether it's environmental, with natural resources, whether it's political, the perils of debt trap diplomacy, and all of these things are connected to China. But I would also say that this is something that European colonial powers did to Southeast Asia for a long time. It's something that the United States, you know, the United States colonized the Philippines. So it's a none of us have clean hands when it comes to coming to the region and and wanting natural resources and imposing our political will. Yeah, that's very interesting. This is my my last question before Marco gets a chance again. But the United States, you know, two hours ago, we had a show with a retired three star general American general who has spent a lot of time in Vietnam. And he was, you know, remarking on the success that the U.S. has had in its foreign policy with Vietnam. We are very close to Vietnam. It's interesting how the common the common bond is the war. And yet it brings us together. There's really no entity. They want to trade. They want to they want as much U.S. as they can get. It's sort of out of Miss Saigon, where you where you hug the Cadillac, you know, they're very successful. And the relationship to U.S. with Vietnam is very successful. And I just wonder whether it is as successful in these other countries in Southeast Asia. I mean, do does the United States have the same kind of relationship with these other countries as it does ostensibly with Vietnam? I think it goes country by country. Generally speaking, ASEAN countries like it when the U.S. shows up. And when under under George W. Bush, when under President Trump, when the U.S. didn't show up to big ASEAN conferences or to APEC conferences, Southeast Asian countries were upset. You know, it's a loss of face. It means that the United States is not taking these countries seriously. As regards to Vietnam, when you talk to Vietnamese senior officials, they will say, look, the American War, as they call the Vietnam War, the American War was a few years long. We were colonized by China for millennium. The French were there for a fair amount of time as well. Vietnam is very well geared to trying to fend off people who come in and try to do things. And the United States was sort of the least of it. What I would say about Vietnam is, yes, absolutely Vietnam is in terms of trade, even in terms of defense, because Vietnam sees ultimately its foe as China and not necessarily United States. And your enemy's enemy becomes your friend. So that's why the United States plays an important role. But in terms of human rights abuses, in terms of an authoritarian government that is locking up its people, that is trying to meddle with freedom on Facebook, on censorship issues, the Vietnamese government has been following the China playbook. And the United States has not really called them on that as much as one might expect. So yes, things are going swimmingly from a trade perspective. In terms of democratic ideals that the United States purports to espouse, we are not defending those with great vociferousness in Vietnam. Very, very interesting to talk to you. But at this point, I have to say, Marco, you're witness. Thank you. Thank you, Your Honor. Yeah, interesting. There's so many interesting places we can go right now. But of the five countries in the world that are ruled by a ruling dominant communist party, three of them are in Asia, Southeast Asia, that's the People's Republic of China, Vietnam, and the Laos, PDR, the other two being Cuba, and the North Korea. So I wanted to point out as well that there's a number of really good new books that come out on the subject, looking at Southeast Asia as a separate entity, as a conglomeration of states in the same region, and the relationship with China. A book each by two, David, I'll call them, David Lampton, who is a longtime American academic and very, very good as far as I believe, and David Shambop, both come up with new books. And another one is Sebastian Strangio's book. He got his start at the Pernampan Post of all places in Cambodia. And there's a tremendous amount of interesting stuff that these two scholars and collaborators and then a Sebastian have come up with. So anybody who's interested in this region, from a political, economic, strategic user, excellent, excellent resources. So maybe scroll down a little bit or narrow down to Thailand, because of course, Ann has been there for the past several years, and I've been reading your stuff, you know, with great interest. And I wanted to get your take Hannah in terms of and where things stand with this, the protest movement, for lack of a better way of describing it, which from your writing and from others, some of the protesters are going further than any protesters have gone before in terms of actually questioning the monarchy, which is, you know, a big red line. So where are things right now with this movement vis-à-vis the government and the Prime Minister and former general who took power in a coup over the last Shinoat, right? Where are things right now? Things are right now in a bit of a pause. So the protesters have said that they will pause until the new year and then come back stronger than ever. But that doesn't mean that the movement is going away. And I think something fundamentally has changed in Thailand. You know, we've been spared COVID, which has been wonderful. Instead, we've had this kind of political shock in the country. And one of the things about, one of the stereotypes of Thailand is that it's, you know, the land of smiles and everybody's, you know, maybe it's kind of a parallel with the way that people sort of look at Hawaii, you know, it's just sunny and wonderful and smiley. And in fact, the hierarchies in the country, the ability of the political elite to really cling on to power and resources. And also, this is, despite being a middle income country, is one of the countries with the widest wealth gap between rich and poor. And so there's a really big difference between being in Bangkok with the air conditioned malls and, you know, the fancy Christmas music that I heard yesterday when I went to the mall. And people who live in the populace northeast who are rice farmers, who are watching the price of rice go down, there's a drought, the environmental problems caused partly by damming of the of the Mekong up in China. And these two populaces in Thailand are kind of diametrically opposed. And the larger population that feels like this concentration of wealth in in Bangkok, and particularly among the elite backed by a government, which is military dominated, and backed behind that by the monarchy, which is the one of the richest, if not the richest monarchy in the world, is not something that that should stand. And Thailand has been for a long time now bound by very strict les majesté laws, which basically preclude any criticism of the immediate members of the royal family. And it was just a, you know, it was a taboo. And in Thailand, for 70 years was ruled by the world's longest reigning monarch, King Phu Mi Puan. And he died in 2016. And, you know, from from there, the new king is somebody who is not as beloved as his father. And in fact, is somebody who is in many, many parts of Thailand is not respected. And he spends most of his time living in Germany. And he has a very colorful personal life. He's been married four times. His first wife was his first cousin. His second wife was his mistress for a long time. His third wife was then she was purged a few years ago. And his fourth wife became his fourth wife and now the queen a couple days before he was, he went through his official coronation. And most of the time, they live in Europe and rarely come back to Thailand, although he is in Thailand at the moment. And I think people in Thailand just thought that's kind of weird that our King, who is protected by all these last Majesty laws, is not actually living in the country that he is reigning over. And the Crown Property Bureau, which controls a lot of the palace's wealth, owns some of the most splendid land and resources in the country. And so it's sort of another example of the concentration of wealth in the country. And young people in particular thought we don't really like this. We don't think this is right. But interestingly that the student protests which began earlier this year and then got kind of, they went quiet for a bit because of COVID and then came back as a country emerged from lockdown over the summer, they started not with issues of the monarchy, they started with school rules. So in Thai schools, you're supposed to wear, in some schools, your hair is supposed to be a certain length. As a girl, it's not supposed to be no longer been here. You're supposed to wear down to underwear. You're not supposed to have underwear that shows through your white shirt. It's very demure. And the kind of rules in school, you're supposed to prostrate yourself sometimes in front of teachers. You stand up and pay obeisance to the royal anthem. All of these things, kids said, no, this isn't really indicative of modern Thailand. And these are kind of artifacts of a kind of an absolute monarchy or even a militarized society that Thailand is currently. And people said, we kind of not for this. And students stood up for this. And that then kind of snowballed and started taking in other issues, whether it's LGBTQ rights, labor unions, women's rights, and then the issue, the untouchable, so-called untouchable issue of the monarchy. And all that got kind of wrapped together. And in the beginning of the summer, there were these really sort of fun protests rallies in which you'd have different speakers getting up and talking about their causes. It has now shifted. And the more the momentum is focused on the specific issue of the monarchy. And that's sort of where we are right now. And it's really uncharted territory for Thailand. And Hannah, where did this come from? Where did the Hunger Games salute? Do you know where the origin of that is that kind of got adopted by the movement? Yeah. So the movement has been very good on social media. And it's been very good at taking different kind of cultural memes, whether it's the Hunger Games salute, which is kind of the salute of defiance, right?  Or taking Japanese anime characters. Harry Potter was brought in for a while. So a lot of people dressed up as wizards. And it was fun. And it made it, Thailand has a history of brutally crushing protest movements, right? You know, as recently as 2010, dozens of people were killed on the streets of the Bangkok by Thai security forces. And so the idea of a student showing up dressed as Harry Potter or flashing the Hunger Games salute or dressed as, you know, Totoro Japanese anime, it kind of, it made it cute and fun. And it added a lot of, it made it harder, I think, for people to imagine a crackdown.  I don't know. It sounds like Thailand is in a kind of transition. And it's moving to another place. And the old, the old arrangement is really not sustainable anymore. Do you agree? And where do you think it's moving to? I have no idea where it's moving to. I think there is certainly there is dissatisfaction with the old political elite. And what's striking about these protests, compared to a couple movements earlier this century, is that you have a lot of upper middle class people protesting. You know, so they are, they're kind of the beneficiaries of this system. And yet even they are saying, you know, enough is enough. Where it's going, I don't, you know, it's very, very hard to say. I mean, the political elite has benefited for so long from a very unfair playing field. And they are not going to give that up without a fight. So I think as cute as the protesters are with their Harry Potter stuff, I don't think that precludes a crackdown. And I don't think it precludes a coup.  So there is, even though the current leader, prime minister of the country, is the guy who led the former coup, it's possible that there could be a counter coup. That's from the Thai old guard. This reminds me of that line out of the marathon man with Dustin Hoffman. Is it safe? Is it safe for you? Is it safe in the time of COVID? Will it be safe? Will there be, you know, my wife and I traveled to Thailand 10 years ago and they were having a protest and it was so fun. It was so cute. No one felt that it would be, it would ever go out of the boundaries in which it was happening. Now I wonder about that. So is it safe? You know, during the last major crackdown in 2010, I had two small kids, you know, one was a baby, one was a toddler and they, we put them down for a nap and my husband and I decided we knew that the crackdown was probably coming. And so we went out to the protests and we got, we sort of got caught in something a little bit iffy. We were on an underpass and there was a, there was a row of APCs coming one way, there were snipers coming the other way and the Red Cross was trucking out people who'd gotten shot and killed and we were kind of trapped in this slightly uncomfortable situation and we were hiding behind a parked vehicle and we sort of went around the vehicle and realized that no angle was particularly safe.  And so we kind of girded ourselves and this woman, the protester, grabbed my arm and I think grabbed my husband's arm and just kind of walked us out of there and we didn't obviously didn't get shot.  So I think, you know, to your point of everything seeming fine and cute, yes, until it's not. And it shows a kind of bifurcation of Thai society in which something terrible can happen on one block and on the next block coconut ice cream is being sold. Having said that, I think that what's happening in Thailand now is broader based. And I think it really has kind of, even though shopping malls can continue and there can be, you know, fancy watch options and luxury necklaces and all that, I think that there is a sense that things have to change somehow. Well, things are changing here on Think Tech. We're almost out of time. That's a change. So I'm going to leave it to Marco to, I love doing this to you, Marco, to summarize the essence of our discussion today with Hannah and try to present to the people what they should carry away from it. The only thing they should carry away is gratitude and thanks for kind of being with us. And they should carry away a feeling of anticipation and enthusiasm for the next time that we can have Hannah back because there's so much more. And Hannah actually interviewed Aung San Suu Kyi at some point long ago, right, Hannah? And I'd love to hear your take on the ladies fall from grace as well as you took a flight in an Air Force recon plane over the South China Sea, which was quite a ways in coming in terms of getting official approval and hearing the chatter from the Chinese ground controllers. So I mean, we barely scratched the surface. So let's, Jay, let's make a pact between you and I that we will most definitely ask Hannah to come back soon. Yes. And let me add to that, Hannah, you know, I don't know if you think of it in these terms, but you in the New York Times, you are our agents, our eyes, our ears.  And what you see and learn and write about is for all of us. It is possibly one of the greatest information services, I mean, service to the public that exists in the world today. I hope you appreciate that we appreciate you. Oh, thank you. It's the New York Times is one of the few publications that has people in Southeast Asia. And I feel extraordinarily lucky to be able to cover the region, even if I don't think it's here in region. It's a fascinating region. And there's so much going on. And, you know, to be able to write kind of nerdy stories about about political movements in Indonesia or Chinese investment in Cambodia and have have a newspaper run those stores and be interested is a gift. Okay, we'd like to do it again. There's so much more to cover to discuss. And for now, all I can say, correct me if I'm wrong, but I would say to you, Namaste, is that the right thing? Thank you very much. I hope we meet again soon. Thank you so much. Thank you, Marco. Great discussion. Nice family. Aloha. Bye bye.


All is so one-sided when it comes to who is the legal father. Is mother would have an affair? Boyfriend finds out she's pregnant. Boyfriend really wants to be a daddy. But then husband steps in and says, nope, I'm the legal father. And having to fight, we can prove that we're the biological father. You can prove that it may not matter. But see, a lot of this comes down to the politics of your judge, your specific judge. So, like most of the judges, I mean, I wouldn't let them babysit my dog. But there are a couple judges that, when these situations come in, I look at the judge and I'm like, we got one of the two good judges in the whole state. We got one of the two. Most of the time, I will say, when a husband finds out that wife is pregnant with someone else's baby, most of the time the husband will be like, their marriage is kind of over anyway. But there are some of those men that will stay and hang on for some reason, I don't know, right?  I've yet to see an exception, right?


Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States and Mrs. Reagan. It was pleasant that I could imagine. I'd like to invite to this stage a longtime friend and America's first lady, Mrs. Nancy Reagan. Last year, you very kindly gave me an award, which I really didn't think I deserved because you gave it to me for something that I enjoyed doing for eight years. So this year, I'd like to give one to someone who really deserves it. You know, Grace Kelly in the movie The Country Girl said, there's nothing quite so mysterious and silent as a dark theater. And I would add, and nothing quite so sad, you'll notice that this theater is far from dark tonight. For more than 20 years, the light in this theater has been Frankie Hewitt. In the forest behind Ford's Theater for over two decades, even before the doors reopened to the public, Frankie was instrumental in convincing Congress to turn this historic site into a living tribute to Abraham Lincoln and his love of the performing arts. And ever since the theater's restoration, Frankie has been at the helm. Today, Ford's Theater is well known for the creativity and quality of its productions. Over the past eight years, my husband and I have spent many wonderful evenings in those two seats there in the front row, and we've enjoyed every performance. And so tonight, I'm very proud to present the Ford's Theater Lincoln Medal to one of this theater's own, to the person who makes the lights go on and the curtains go up, Frankie Hewitt. I'm used to being on the giving end. Mrs. Reagan, working at Ford's has given me an opportunity to become acquainted with some of the most fascinating people of our time. And it has given me a view of the open, you and President Reagan exemplify the very best qualities of the Ford's Theater family. You have been generous with your time and your hospitality. You have encouraged us when we were discouraged. But most importantly, you have been our most appreciative audience. And that, after all, is what theater is all about. So I thank you for this honor. And I thank all of you for making these 20 years so vibrant, so alive, and so gratifying for me. The regular attendance of these gallows by the President and Mrs. Reagan and for all of us who have appeared in these gallows and for all those theater doors, we thank you both and we invite you both up on the stage. Special thanks to Jimmy Stewart, who was so gracious in introducing my roommate. Nancy. There's no denying it. The Stewart's and the Reagan's go back a long way. In fact, when my old boss, Jack Warner, first heard that I was running for governor of California, he thought for a moment and then said, no, Jimmy Stewart for governor, Reagan for best friend. Even that was an improvement over what Jack Warner's brother, Harry, said way back in the very old days, somebody told him about that new technique that would make it possible to add soundtracks to motion pictures. Up until then, of course, there'd been nothing but silent movies. And Harry said, who that wants to hear actors talk? We're here tonight not to celebrate the movies, but the theater, Ford's theater. This has been quite an evening.  Thanks go to the general chairman, Betty Wright and Carol Laxall, to the chairman of this evening's gala, Mary Jane Wick, and to the executive producer of this evening's performance, Frankie Hewitt, to our hosts, Jane Seymour and Harry Hamlin, and yes, to this entire cast. It was 125 years ago this year that Ford's theater first opened, as we've been told, and Washington in those days was for the most part a village, modest frame houses, dirt roads, chickens, and livestock everywhere, that theatrical manager John T. Ford came here from Baltimore because he realized that Washington had a large, natural audience, the thousands of union troops quartered here with little to do. But Ford's theater did much more than give the troops a way to fight off their boredom. It brought pleasure and refreshment into the heart of a city struggling with the Civil War. Think how uplifting it must have been to the people who crowded this theater in those dark days to be able to laugh, to be able to participate in an evening that lifted them out of themselves. His biographers tell us that Mr. Lincoln loved the theater and nothing could have pleased him more than the performances that he saw here. Today, the village of Washington has become a great international city, even a center of culture in the arts. But the work of this splendid little theater remains unchanged, to refresh, to uplift, to give joy. And so in supporting Ford's theater, we're both helping to preserve a piece of our own history and to provide theater the highest standards for the audiences of today. May Ford's first 125 years be followed by 125 to come. I can't resist seeing all these splendid people up here entertaining us as they have tonight, giving away the only thing they have to sell. Some years back, some entertainer in show business did something that affronted the public morals and the press took off on that individual and then on all of show business and said that show people were just childish in their ways, in their thinking, the things that they did and complete children in their attitude. And it remained for a columnist named Irving S. Cobb to respond. And he said, if this be true, and if it be true when the final curtain falls, all must approach the gates bearing in their arms that which they have given in life. The people of show business will march in the procession, carrying in their arms the pure pearl of tears, the gold of laughter, and the diamonds of stardust they spread on what might otherwise have been a rather dreary world. And when it last all reached the final stage door, the keeper will say, open, let my children in. Thank you. God bless you. Remain in your seats until the president has left. Please remain in your seats.


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You turned around again. You came down with 84 million shares. You were basically going into that swing point of 112. Yesterday we come down with 89 shares, 89 million going into the same deal. Now the real question's gonna be here. You know, what kind of volume we're gonna come in? It's option expiration, folks. You're gonna have volume. That's the bottom line. So you're already going into 62 million. We already got 56 on a normal day. That had banged out about 66. I expect what you're gonna do is about 90, 100 million shares. And that's saying, guess what? Higher prices are coming at us. NDX 100, we take a look at the NDX. You get the same set up inside the NDX. Bottom line inside the NDX. We came down on Wednesday, and you had 73 million shares. You were coming into 79, and then yesterday you had 63 coming into 79.  And what's going on here, you get 50 million shares and you come in into 55, and the NASDAQ's gonna do about 80 or 90 also. So my take is that the Qs are gonna make this run up to about at least 314. That's the swing that I'm looking at that I expect this baby's gonna go. Now the real kicker's gonna be here, of course. No, do you have volume coming into it? Because if you have volume coming into it, the whole different dynamics are gonna start taking place. I expect volume today. The real question is, can you get follow through with volume? Gold, gold contract, bottom line, testing the lows of yesterday, can't get out of its way. Bottom line, you get a contraction of volume. It's 233,000 against 168 today. And good old Kingdala. We take a look at Kingdala, what you're gonna see with Kingdala is you just backed off a bit and just a bit of a back off is pretty cool what it does to the marketplace. I mean, the correlation out here is about as direct as you can get in a month's away. So the Kingdala yesterday, we reached a high out here of 109, 294. He's down 4444 ticks out here today and the market's getting some relief. There's no doubt about that. The real question's gotta be, are we gonna get follow through? Right, so my take is that we're gonna run right into the close. If we go to the, let's go look at the E-mini first anyway. So we look at the E-mini that's trying to blow out highs right now. So this is gonna get interesting this last 50 minutes of trading. So let's pull this back. There we go. Okay, so you can see we've been laying at these highs now since 11 o'clock this morning. No, one o'clock rather. No, 11 o'clock. And bottom line, we'll see what is gonna blow them away. You know, we were talking about the aspect that we had that ABC structure when we closed out the last night and the bottom line is that that was there in spades. Now, what also happened here is that you have a larger ABC structure. What was this one? 38, 11. Let me see this one. Oh, this is nice. Yeah, this is a 90 point A to B. That gets you 38, 70. Look at this. So this is so cool, man. And we hit 38, 63. So when you're looking at this you can see, I mean, this is a nice ABC and it blew it right away.  You missed the bigger ABC here by seven points. Now, what that does is that that sets up when you have 50 minutes left that it's okay. It's gonna be easy to take this swing high out. The swing high here on a 10 minute only has 20,000 chairs, 20,000 contracts. That's easy to take out in a 10 minute. Let's go look at what this NQ looks like. So do the same type of exercise on the NQs. Pull these back. Okay, so the NQ, that top bar is 12,000 contracts. Last time we were up there. Okay, the NQ is gonna need more juice. So the first nice bar up here is 12. The one bar had volume of 27. The high right now had volume of 12,000. And we came up to that high 15, 20 minutes ago you only had half that amount. So you're building cause. That's what you're doing. We certainly, that little swing down there had some volume too, but then I tested it. Yeah, I did. So this is gonna try to push higher into the close. And the real kicker is gonna be do you get another ABC structure up into that level? Because what you're gonna have bottom line is you have a huge amount of options that are expiring. That always put some nice volume and juice into the marketplace. The cool thing here, if you bullish it all folks, is that when you get an option expiration and you have volume that comes in, what I've found is that, guess what?  If you're in this case, we got a market that was going down, wants to get down.  Just the opposite, you have markets that have been up and you get option expiration are re-balancing and you get the volume on the way down. Guess what, man, that's where it's going. So that's the setup right now. And this market is quite a trade. This market is, you know, there's no doubt about it. 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He has a client from my house. Right. She's ready to buy, but he told her that this is not a good time to buy right now. Right. So, it's like you can do it right now. Right. But he told her no. Right. So, the reason I brought that up folks is this. Is that, and this was a first time buyer. Okay. Is that it's so intriguing to me that when, you know, things are going up that we know the frenzy that was there. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Crazy. And now what has happened is that it's back an alphabet that you can actually get an inspection, you know. Get credit back. Get credit back. You have some real due diligence. And you have a broker that's saying, you know, no, this is not the time. And my point more than anything, I guess, is that like when I said to you, when you don't have a house, you have to get in, man. That's the bottom line. And I think that's bad advice that I mean, and listen, you could get out another 10, 15%. But if you're looking, we know factually that we need more houses. Yeah. That's, you know, depending what city you're in and St. Pete, we definitely need more houses in Florida. We need more houses. Tommy did some numbers yesterday. It was pretty cool. It was a Bloomberg article and it had the amount of houses that were in the negative per state. And then Bloomberg, you know, they had it all mapped out. And in Florida, it was 228,000, which is a lot. You know what I mean?  Okay, so that sounds, you know, that's still a lot. That's the bottom line. Yeah, that's a lot of houses. That's still a lot. And what we know is that the rent structure has not got hurt. It's not even close. Going up. Yeah, the rent structure has been going up. You know, so it's gonna be, the whole thing's gonna be intriguing. And, you know, the market, look at the market. You know, it looks like the Dow, it only goes up by 5,600 or goes down by 5,600. Yeah. That's where I see it, every time I see it. You know what's so great folks? You know what he's saying. So, here's this, we have the second floor and the fifth floor, right? The second floor is the TV studios, radio studios and all that. And the fifth floor, it's the real estate and all of this. So, every day I come back upstairs, best to say, so it's up and down today. And, you know, at the very beginning, it's hard to have people understand. So, picture, he always says to me, like, I don't even get this, man. How does it go up a thousand and down a thousand, right? Because it's the truth. It's like, okay, because it's bizarre. Somebody says something and then it's going one way or the other. Right. It's kind of crazy. And there never is really, like, wise. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's, some of them could be, you know, but most of it is like, it's either buying or selling, but I get it and it just cracks me up, man. Yes, I guess we have to be in the market to understand it.  Can you imagine for all sales like that? No. And that's the point of the story that I'm saying, really, because what happens, folks, is that you've got to remember something. This is what happens in the market a lot. And this is unfortunately what happens to people even on downdrafts, you know, because, yeah, we might only be down 20%, but some of these tech stocks are down a lot more than that. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? That people are into. And what happens is that when you come from another field and, you know, you're always making money you figure if you're going to work hard, you're going to make money in the market. Yeah. But that's not how it works. No. I remember getting that lesson.  I mean, I'm not talking about the stock market. I'm talking about whether it's real estate or bonds or something that, and then I remember when the first time I get in, it's just, hold it, man, you can work and lose money. I didn't even, it took me like a year, no, it took me more than a year. It took me a couple of years to get that wrapped around my head. Yeah. Because normally it's just, I could normally work anyone. That's not anyone, but you know what I'm saying? I says, okay, I can get this, man. Do you know what I mean? Because it just, you know, but that's not how the stock market works, folks. Okay? It's not even close. I mean, you don't know a lot of people that were in it the last few years. Yes. You know, they're all pretty much lost all their money. And they're pretty much all out of it. Right. So. Right. And you know, that's amazing. Oh, look at this. This is beautiful. We can go to Steve. Let's go to Steve in Alaska. Steve, what's going on? Hi, good afternoon, my friend. How are you? I'm great. Where about in Alaska are you? Juneau. In Juneau. Awesome, man. Awesome. I love it. Yeah, I've called in before. You have. Yeah. Yeah. Real estate stuff. We're going to turn this into a real estate show for four minutes or five minutes. That's what we want to do. So I think first comment is, I think that real estate agent that turned a client off, did it, did the client at this service? Yes. And the various MLSs I've been in, they could be in trouble for that. But anyway, I have a kind of an investment question for you. Yes. And so I lived in Key West for several years. Yeah. And I rented a one-bedroom, one-and-a-half bath, 715 square foot apartment, which when I departed in 2004, the last rent I paid was 1,300. Okay. In Key West again. Right. So I looked it up last night in preparation for your show because I need base for it. Be on with you. You're awesome. Thank you. And so that same apartment today, 715 square foot is trading or renting for $3,400. I know. I know. So my question to you is, if you owned that apartment, would that have been a good investment from 2004 on an average investment or a poor investment? No, that would have been a good investment because there's two different things in Key West that are happening that it's really hard to build in Key West. So that is on the table.  Okay. And in Florida, it's gone exponential, you know. And the thing that's really wild is that even the houses that I'm selling are still cash flowing. The houses, so I'm getting right now 960. The next one will be like 1.1 maybe around there, okay. And they're getting the $7,000 a month at Brent. So it's like, oh my God. Every time I check out a mortgage amortization schedule, it blows my mind. I don't know where people get their money. Listen, we talk about that all the time. We look out our window, right? And we're like a block from the water and we're next to a couple high rises. And every night before I leave, I stand next to Bessford's desk and we're rapping for 20, 30 minutes before I leave. It's like, it always comes up. How do people pay that kind of money? Stay right there, Steve. 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This segment is brought to you by Think or Swim. For more information, just click the Think or Swim banner on the front page of tfnn.com. Welcome back, folks, sit down. Dow Industries right now at 566, NASDAQ 171, S&Ps are up 63. Hey, Steve, so how long have you been in Juneau? I've been in Juneau for one or four years. Nice. I've been in Alaska a good long time. When I left Key West, it was come back to Alaska. Okay. And I actually have a Florida real estate license and every time I try to talk to wife and it's just hanging this cold winter up, or cold rainy winter, and head back to Florida, she says, uh-huh, uh-huh, remember I-75? Wow, yeah. So anyway, she's in Tampa herself, Bradenton actually, and I do miss it. Well, water's beautiful. I clear water beaches, something else. Yeah, a few of those frames on that plate. It is. In fact, I've visited your office. Bridget and I are gonna be hanging down to the water beach this weekend, man. When I pack this up, my feet are gonna be in the sand. We'll be in the water until Monday afternoon at three o'clock. Yeah, it has.  A yacht. Larry's pretty funny. We do go sailing, we do go sailing. So the story on Larry went like this, right? So what happens is that we sail, I sail a good-sized boat. Larry, we were taking Larry out on the, I get like an open power boat also. And so what happened is that he was so, he was so paranoid. It was unbelievable actually, but he went because we were going out to dinner and we had a blast. So I think he, you know, embellishes the deal a bit. You know what I mean? But he was a little scared. Yeah, he said him and water got mixed. Yeah, I know, I know. And that, well, listen, man, he lives in the desert.  So there's no doubt. Pretty cool. Yeah, I've been there. Yeah. So are you guys gonna, are you gonna build some more? Oh, I'm building like crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's good. That's good. I mean, people are still moving down there by the. Well, what it is, is that because of the rent structure too, I don't have to sell them. Like the ones, yeah, I like building these things new and then I'm renting them. So then it's pretty cool, man. You know what I mean? And what did happen though, so that you can get to the whole, I've been here for 25 years, but I started buying this land like 12 years ago, man. I bought like down here when no one was even here. You know what I mean? Because it's like, okay, I've all my life, I've always had to kind of make sure I have something because no one would ever hire me. Right, well, when you're an independent thinker, it's hard to keep a job. Yeah, I'm only kidding a little bit. But you get the gist of it. It was like, okay, man, I want to stay busy.  So I got a nice position and that makes a huge difference, particularly because the land value went up so much. You know what I'm saying? It's like, what happens folks, which is really hard to comprehend because Miami's so big and Fort Lauderdale's so big, but actually where we are in Pinellas County is the most dense county in all of Florida. And it's because like Fort Lauderdale in Miami has a lot more big, well, get the Everglades, you got a lot of things over there. Now it's still more expensive over there than it is here. But when I saw that how dense it was, I'm saying to myself, okay, there's no more land, man. There really is. It was surrounded three parts in water, you know what I'm saying? So that makes a big difference. So what's the real estate market up in Alaska and in Juneau like right now? There isn't any place to get. There isn't place to get, okay. All right. It's just as simple as that. I mean, if you accept, there's people that accepted 150, 175,000 a year jobs come up here and they can't find a place to live in or at least a place that they'd be willing to live in. Right. They turned down the job and fly back to where they came from. Wow. See, so it's happening across the whole world, man. Are we glad? I don't know if you know this. I had three offices up in Alaska. I had two in Anchorage and I had one up in Fairbanks and that's what I did. Those oil workers going back and forth, back and forth, whether it's every two weeks, every six weeks. And Steve, I was actually there when, what happened folks is that the oil market crash went to $10 and I mean, this is a long time ago now but it was amazing watching an economy come to a halt because it was a halt like beyond belief. And that's when Alaska got hit, Tampa got hit, not Tampa, I mean, Dallas got hit, California got hit, Boston got hit.  Well, listen, man, we appreciate your call and get us another question next week, were ya? I'll try my best, buddy. I hope you guys have a great weekend and be safe out there. Thanks so much, man. Thank you for doing it as well. Have a great one, man, have a safe one. The, let me see, we got a question over here. Oh, I know, there's a question. So there's a question about containers coming from China. So I just brought one in, but yeah, I'm gonna put the Baltic index up first and I'll give you the rundown on how this is shaking out. So the peak folks per container, now this is Shanghai to Tampa, okay? The peak was $14,500. Now you can see, I just brought this one in so it was priced out, I just paid $11,500. And just to get to understand, I used to pay $1,750. So, but I can see I'm bringing in a bunch more than the both, I don't know, about eight weeks. You can see on this right here, how much more, it went down probably another 50%, you know, even since then. Yeah, things are gonna get down to about 5,000. I'd suspect it's going to and probably cheaper because what happens is that that is purely a commodity business, man. And unfortunately, when those rates get that high, then all the shipbuilders build them like crazy and by the time they build them, then they got more capacity and then shipping slows down. That's the math, right? Yeah, and so then that whole aspect comes into it and it makes a big difference. Do you know what I mean? And then we get a question here. Tom, Bill, oh, Bill, Tom's carrying it to us. Oh yeah, yeah. Well, might as well break it right here, right? We're gonna break it right here, folks. So check this out. This is pretty cool. Thanks, EXK, for putting this in here. So what I do do, folks, is this. I build a main house. In fact, you're gonna be, well, I'll get you to the website. You've read me a couple more weeks, actually. So what I do is I build a main house, 1,943 feet, three bedrooms, two baths, one laundry room. And then I build a carriage house. And the main reasons is that coming out of South Boston, I realized coming down here, when prices go up, small places are worth a fortune. So I always built a carriage house. In fact, I've built more carriage houses than anyone in St. Pete. And what's going on now is that they're changing the zoning and it's gonna be an additional 15,000 houses that can have carriage houses. So I am gonna be building a lot of carriage houses because I can build these in my sleep. And they're 2338, that's the last one I sold, fourth? If you wanna see something where I build, folks, if you Google 2338, fourth Avenue South. Yeah, St. Peter's. St. Pete, you'll get to see, that's the front house. You'll see the carriage house in the back. Now that carriage house is only a studio. I'll be building mostly one bedrooms. One bedroom is 661 square feet, three bedrooms, three garages, laundry room, all block, double insulation, 298 grand. Yeah, stay right there, folks. Best of the night, come right back. 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Sign up today and become a part of this educational community of traders. Just visit the front page of TFNN.com. This program is brought to you by Vista Gold. Traded on the NYSE American and TSX under the symbol VGZ. I'm O'Brien. Welcome back folks, Dow. Dow Industries right now trading up 563. We get the NASDAQ up 162. S&Ps are up 62. And let's just go inside the Dow and see what's moving the market out here. Whoops, wrong one, let's go, here we go. Okay, so point wise what we have, this United Health always seems to be out there up or down. So the United Health's putting this 165 positive points in Goldman, 80, American Express 36, Salesforce 35. The only equity in the Dow Industries that is in the negative is Procter & Gamble. That's just slightly. If we go into the NDX 100, we take a look at the strength versus the weakness inside the NDX, what you have out here today percentage wise, we have Netflix up 7.5%, it's finally moved, that's interesting. Splunk is up 6%, Makata Libre is up 6.5%, and Illumina is up 6%. Taken away from it. You have Constellation. The Constellation brands, that's interesting. That's down 3.6, Lucent's off 2.5, you get Kraft Heinz is off 1.7. And bottom line is that we'll see how this whole thing is gonna basically shake out coming into the close. So, okay, take a look. They wanna look at the tip market, PPLT. I gotta, let's see, tips. I'm not sure if I can pull this up. I know, I just don't know what the... Okay, oh, here it is. Okay, good, tips. Tips, tips, tips, tips. That's not it. That's London. Oh, okay, I see. Oh, I got it. I got the ETF, okay, here we go. No, you gotta get this straight, though. Okay, yeah, so it's tip. Okay, so this is an iShare. iShare, okay, exchange rate of funds. The low is, let me see the holdings. I'm just curious how this works. Okay, so these are all bonds. Okay, so what has happened? Oh, wait. Does this go down when inflation goes up? It doesn't make any sense. Let's see this thing. ETF will track Bloomberg, U.S. Treasury, Inflation Notes Index. The index measures the performance in inflation tax with public obligations. You know, I'm sorry, man, I can't help you with this thing because I don't really, I understand what a tip is. But when I'm looking at this thing, this has been a straight move down. And maybe the correlation is different, but the bottom line is that what should happen is that if you're buying a tip, and this is what could happen inside the ETF structures, which is not cool, is that they roll them.  So I don't know why that ETF is lower, so I wouldn't touch it. So what is a tip? A tip is basically a treasury that's inflation protected, Treasury and inflation protection.  Yeah. So what happens is that there are tips, and as the inflation number comes in, you get more, you're covered for a certain amount of inflation. So you actually start collecting more interest. You know, it makes a difference, there's no doubt about it. Let's see, we got, we're talking AGUs, we're talking... 500,000 for one, huh? I think he lives in California though. Yeah, what does happen folks is that we're, you know, we're still mid-priced, you know what I mean? So what does happen is that this is what's really cool about what I'm gonna be doing at this particular point. Most houses in, not in most houses, I'd say three quarters to the houses. Three quarters maybe? Or over 450 bucks right now, a foot or a half? No, I would say about half. Half, okay. It just depends on the... The area, no, we know that. So what ends up happening, I got about half the city, they're quite over, I'm building, I'm trying to sell it, I'm gonna sell it at 450. I haven't tried to sell one yet because what's going on is that I just like, I build them, so I just announced this thing. I've been working on this thing. Well yeah, your construction is a lot better than... Right. A lot of things we see out there. Right, so at 450 it's pretty cool because there's plenty of areas that, you know, bottom line, they're going for 600 or 700, so the day I finish it, you know, let's say I come up with 300, the minute I finish it, it's worth 450. And that's what I'm psyched about actually because what ends up happening, and I've already built enough of them that I know where the quarks are. And there's not many quarks. The biggest quark is Duke Electric. Yeah. That's the biggest quark. Meaning that as you're looking at a lot, you know, the bottom line is most of the time I like putting those wires underneath. So, you know, and we have, there's an alley set up. We have a front, back and an alley set up in St. Petersburg, which makes it really cool. Yeah, the alley is so cool. It's crucial. It makes it a real city. Yeah, it does. No. It's one of the best parts of St. Petersburg. No, it is. It is. And how that got established, folks, I mean, you're talking about when you go back as the establishment, what happened is that, like all of Florida, Florida was established by the railroad, you know, tightness. Yeah. So on this side, it was plant. And the other side, it was flag, exactly. So what happened is that when they were, the first people that got here, bottom line is that their servants would live in the back. And that's how the alleys got established because that's how crazy people were then that didn't even want people to see them.  If you've never seen one of these and I've seen them down the Cape, that these old houses that you have the house, right? And then there's a stairway. And what the stairway is, is that that used to go where the servants would live and that they could go in and out of the house without the company seeing them. Wow. Isn't that, meaning the kitchen help? Yeah. Isn't that crazy? That's crazy. That's crazy.  It's how they did it back then, huh? They did it. For classes. They did it. There's no doubt about that. Classes and spades, man. Yeah. You can see some of the houses down here the way they were built. Right. No, there's no doubt, man. Yeah. I mean, this was like a rich area. Yes. Yeah, that's what, exactly. Right. Right, right. It's not for anybody else. Right, right. And now, you know, we talk about that. We talk about lots. So what's happening in St. Pete now, folks, okay? So picture, you know, we're watching lot prices. Yeah. And they're getting softer because they, because what happens is that every time they say message, you know, when I get a lot, that's one thing, but the risk comes as soon as you put the shovel in the ground. Yeah. Because I can have a lot no matter what lot it is and all of a sudden, if I put the shovel in the ground, okay, well, here goes six hundred grand, man. That's, here we go, man. Do you know what I mean? That is so. And that's depending what house I'm building, but that's a reality. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And of course, once you start, you don't want to stop for anything. Yeah. You know what I mean? Fast, fast and furious. Stay right there, folks. Best of night, come right back. We have the dial right now at about 573, and as I guess at 163, S&Ps are up 60. Come right back. Technology around us is changing every day. With so much happening, it can seem impossible to keep up with all the information. David White's investment newsletter, the technology insider, is designed to give you all the information you need to understand the technology that shapes today's markets and tomorrow's future. David White has made his living staying on the cutting edge of technology. His weekly newsletter will give you specific recommendations for value tech stocks, as well as entry prices, target prices, and stops to set for each trade. Dave delivers his weekly newsletters every Friday with updates throughout the week. 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So what ends up, all these trades are all gonna be closed, and so what ends up happening, the volume expands dramatically at this close. So you can see the spy right now is doing 64 million, and that's saying folks, higher prices are coming at us. We're going into 62, and I suspect that this end print, this thing is gonna go up to 80 million shares, right now you're at 64. We already have more than we need in order to continue to higher price. We take a look at the cues, the cues right now, right now, those are coming into 55, and you've already done 55, so they'll bang in, they'll do 15 million at the close, easy, same type of setup. So we'll see how this shakes out coming into next week, and what this did have to do with somewhat, well there's no more selling up, but what you also had out here is that, Fed heads towards 75 basis points, the market, yes they seem to be worrying about the day before that was gonna go up a full percentage, right, I think the market's getting used to that this thing's gonna go up a lot more, meaning that percentage-wise. It looks like whatever they say, if they say 2%, and then they do go up, and the market still goes up. Well, this is where we're going right now, I agree what we're just saying, I know what we're just saying, man. Yeah, they said this, and we're like, all right. If the market gets used to higher rates, then watch out, man, yeah, because there's still too much money floating around, we know it, it was just like we were basically talking to Steve up in Alaska. It's hard to comprehend, every time that I put these rents in my head, what kind of a job do you have that you can pay $7,000 a month rent? Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, and not buy a place, that's what, see there's a twisted deal here, folks, because they gotta give you 21,000 just walking in, it's like, but I guess some people just don't wanna buy a place, right? Yeah, that's the right market. Folks, have a great weekend, safe weekend, get some questions for Bess and I next Friday. Have a great one, folks, have a safe one. Thanks, man. Yeah, look at him, folks.


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