Brought to you by DIS, keeping companies connected with cloud-based solutions. Come on, City! Stuart, hello. Good to speak with you again. How are you doing, bodies-wise, firstly, after Monday? How's Gareth Evans? No, Gareth, he'll be a couple of weeks. He'll be similar to Zellie, just a tightening in his hamstring. I think speaking to him there, the workload we do Monday to Friday is a little bit heavier than what he was used to at Portsmouth. So that might be a reason. It's nothing major. If I'd have spoke to you this morning, as I said, bodies-wise, we were fine, but incredibly much we've had four pull-out training this morning, which probably shows the intensity it was at. So, yeah, it could be better news. I don't think any of them are serious, but a couple might miss Saturday, unfortunately. Can you tell us who those are? No, I can't, Jamie Norvigsley. I can't tell you who they are. A couple were Knox, one rolled an ankle, and the other one, as in shooting, tweaked his knee. So, them two were Knox, you can get over, but if it's a ligament and a knee or an ankle, it can be different. So, we'll just have to wait 24 hours and see how they are. How big an influence then does that take on your team's selection for Saturday? Yeah, exactly that. It's waiting to see. We've got an idea how we want to play. We were having the 11V11 as the injuries occurred, unfortunately. So, we had to change things a little bit about. Football, that's what you've got to deal with sometimes. Very rare, you get a 40-minute session of two, 20 minutes each way. But, as I said, hopefully a couple of them might be okay. If there's a couple that miss Saturday, I'd like to think they're not going to be long-term anything serious. Other than the obvious disappointment of today's Knox, how has training been since Monday? Yeah, okay, a little bit. As you can imagine, we were in Tuesdays straight after it. That was a bit of a, you know, the lads who didn't play trained. They were bright enough.  It takes time, you know, it's been a long couple of days.  So, but, you know, as I said, that's in the past now, we've got to move on and we've got to look to Saturday. As a manager, how do you address that disappointment? Is it a case of putting it behind you straight away? Or do you look to learn from those mistakes and use it as a building platform? No, yeah, you've got to look to learn. You know, you've got to be doing lose or draw and analyse, you know, every game. So, we went over this morning with the lads, things that we'd like to have done better and should have done better. I think you always listen, you should do as a manager and coach always be, you know, self analytical. And I went home that night and thought things I should could have maybe done better. And I think when you look at a system, you know, we decided to go on the diamond system. And I think if any system is suited for the diamond to work, it will be against the 442 because you've got, you know, a dominant area in the middle of the park. That didn't really materialise. We got Billy on it a few times, you know, Billy was first to admit, you know, he won top of his game, but that would like majority of us if we're honest. But you've got to get from your fullbacks. As I said after the game, you know, we didn't get Woody or Tyler higher enough enough to put any danger of pausing. Our biggest chances and three good chances came from probably direct player down the middle with the two centre forwards and runners off them. You know, their two best chances is the goal and obviously across from stable two good crosses, which we've been actually doing well throughout the season. So that was a key area. Stopping got to do better to stop crosses coming in, firstly. But then I just thought, you know, listen, we always get plaudits if you pick the right system and you go out and, you know, play managers and play people. So the game plan worked, but I think the game plan can only work if the players can carry it out and do it on top of the game. I think our game plan would have been okay. Certainly, you know, the diamond can work if effective, as long as everyone's on top of the game and we weren't. And in fairness, I think the other night it was two decent sides. One played really well in Harigut and one underperformed in Bradford. And I'm not just saying it's as simplistic as that, but you know, I knew all along and have done the same thing in Harigut a couple of times. They're a good, well-dulled outfit and they played on top of the game. Most of their lads were, you know, high marks performance-wise. Unfortunately for those, we never. But it's one game. Yes, of course, we've got to learn from it. I've got to learn from it. You know, tactically maybe in different systems that we play. But if I'm honest, like I say, I think, you know, if you're playing against a 4-4-2, as well as that is, we've still got in areas that we could have hurt them. You know, first half we got, you know, in there. But we never. And obviously straight after the half-time. I think we, as much as they've had a lot of shots on goal, maybe from distance and whatever, and certainly put pressure on these earth-to-beaters, we've had three really, really good chances and we've not taken them. So that's what we've got to work on naturally as well. Is it better than to have that performance and I suppose that learning curve early on in the season so you can rectify those wrongs for the longevity? Listen, Jamie, I'm sure we'll go, what have we got 40 games left? You know, we won't be perfect in every game. They'll be, you know, we look at Cheltenham the other night, get beat home at Grimsley 3-1. They were going to be a banker to win at home, you know, where they've been going. They've lost it on to Markham, but they've won the three away games. You can look at many results. You know, teams are not going to be on it, you know, week in, week out. So there will be times as much as we'll learn from a defeat and like to improve on it. You know, there's not a lot in this division. You know, you want to have consistency. You need to be on your game more often than your opponents, naturally, if you want to succeed. But it's not a case they have one disappointing performance and that's the season finish or anything like that. It's, you know, you have to consistency and we know we can be better and, you know, hopefully we will be. Do you stick with a diamond then going into Mansfield or do you size them up and change accordingly? Yeah, we always look how we can hurt the opposition. As I said the other night, I thought if we could go Billy Clark on the ball in behind their midfield to going at the back line and the full backs high up, it, you know, in theory, it could have been a good system. I was going to be making a different change for Mansfield who play three big centre backs holding midfielder sat in front, which, you know, would eliminate the number 10 really. So now it's always horses for courses, but not in a way that we're looking, we're looking how we can get the best out of our players that can inflict the most damage on the opposition really. I was seeing the comments of one of your former players, James Perture was speaking about an hour ago actually from a Mansfield perspective. He was reckoning a pretty open and expansive game between you both. Would you agree with that? I don't know.  And it's, I was at their game last week. It was a nil-nil against Stevenage. Tight, tight game, which most games are at this level.  But every game's been tight. And every game's been tight. Even had a game through the night, even though we accept they were better than us. You know, we still have some good opportunities, you know, to maybe got a better result. So, yeah, again, I think it'll be, I think it'll be a tight game against Mansfield. They really do. They've probably not got off to the start. They would like to get off to, you know, but as I said, they had a good solid performance last week against Stevenage in a nil-nil. You referenced the Grimsby Cheltenham result midweek, which, you know, to my own admission, was quite a surprise as well. But is that then a reflection of where this league is at this season? And I suppose to caveat that, does the salary cap at all play a part in what we may see this season? Does it neutralise it somewhat? I honestly don't know about that, but I just think there is a lot of similarities in a lot of teams this year. I think it's tight. I watch one game one week and think, wow, they're a good side. They're watching the next week and think, not as good. You know, even again, last week, Salford at home to Tamiya. You know, Tamiya without ten players, two and a look with five minutes to go, and they come back and get something there. But I think there's been lots of results like that. I mean, more commos at the top of the league at home at Cambridge 5-0. So it's on the day. You've got to be at your best as much as you can. As I say, you can't be for every game, 46 games. But as long as you're at your players on top of the game, you will come out winning more than you lose. And you've got to have a mindset of, OK, we got beat the other night, disappointing naturally for all of us, for everybody. But it's not the end of the world. We've got another game on Saturday and we've got to go. And if you get selected, you know, make sure you keep the jersey. Final couple from me. I wanted to ask you about Project Big Picture, which has seemingly been and gone now. And then we've got the new development from the Premier League, that there will be a rescue package for League One and Two. What are your thoughts and how that's developed? And did you have any fears or admiration for Project Big Picture? I didn't have a lot to do with it, to be honest, all thoughts of it. I think obviously it was the day of our game it broke, so I was more concentrating on the game. And plus it was just proposals. So, you know, I'm never going to be involved in the decision-making of a proposal. So when the proposals come out and they happen, then you deal with it. A lot of things I could see were never going to happen. So I didn't take a great deal of interest in. But obviously, since that's come out, the Premier League have got together, and the PFA I think, and put them in another package to help Division One and Two clubs.  Again, I think some of them are loans. But I think it's common knowledge and common sense really. You know, clubs will struggle if we can't get fans back into the stadium. It's natural. It's like every business, walk alive, be it pub, restaurant, whatever you're doing. The arts, cinema, you know, if you can't get people to come in, then you're going to lose money. And that's what's happening. So again, without knowing in too much detail, but I think, you know, they've decided to help out the lower level clubs. And obviously that's a positive. And finally, as well, we're 24 hours away from Deadline Day Version Two, as I'm going to call it for this domestic window anyway.  Can we expect any more business from a Bradford City perspective or is that you, you done now for this window? I think it's probably done. Yeah. Again, at this stage, I think we've got enough numbers, even though we've had them few injuries today. I would only like to bring in some, if they can improve us. And it's a guarantee improvement. I don't want to just bring another body in for it. We were, you know, again, we're in close talks over the last week or so with the Premier League lad and club. And I think it would have been a good creative one to bring in. But unfortunately, the club have decided it's done that well this season that they want to keep me around the first team. So, but other than that, I don't see anything happening. And, you know, but again, if something came up, that was going to really improve us and make us better. Then obviously we were open to that. So, never say never, Jamie, but, you know, I was a little bit more hopeful yesterday, but that's gone by the way on that one. Another couple who might have a little sniff at, but if not, listen, we've got a squad that I think is more than capable to be competitive, you know, out with the other nights, you know, disappointment performance. And then it comes down to a manager and coach is getting the best out of what we've got. And we believe we'll be able to do that. Just on the flip side of that, we've spoken about this before, but potential players going out on loan at all. And I know there was a couple of concerns given the current COVID climate that we're living in. I mean, is there any scope in that, or are you much far happier keeping them in in-house? Yeah, in-house at the moment. I think they'd still be able to go non-league. I don't know. I think they'd be able to still go non-league, but they still better go out in the league. Somebody help me. I'm sure on that. No, I think you can still go out of the league if they go into, for example, the younger lads. I think we did that last year. I think that would be a case. But at the moment, again, you know, it just shows you can be going along comfortably with no injuries and then you have four. So, you know, we need bodies about at least a minute in time. Stuart, thanks for that. And good luck for Seth today. Yes, thank you. As you said, you weren't really involved with the Project Big Picture and you didn't really have anything to do with it. But you have played at the highest level. Is there a disconnect between that level and the grassroots of the game, really? Yeah, it's funny because I've just read a little bit there about, you know, Premier League clubs, as we see, listen, we know the money that they pay out, the fees that they pay, the weekly wages that they pay, the money that the income they get in from, obviously, the TV revenues and sponsorship and everything is massive, obviously, compared to where we are. But just like us and teams at our level, they're losing money, you know, monthly. They talk about 100 million, a lot of clubs are losing. So you've got to have a balance of that. You know, everyone initially wants to look after their own, their own, getting their own house, you know, to get the best players they can and look after themselves. But I think there's a feeling towards keeping the pyramid strong and hopefully that's going to be the case in helping out the lower leagues. Obviously, initially the lower leagues needed helping out. I think it was the chair of the EFL that said that he could see several clubs going out of business in the next few weeks. Is that, that's got to be a major concern, particularly at league two level? Yeah, league one as well. I've seen some comments. You don't know if it's scaremongering or if it's true, but listen, I think, again, it's common sense if there's no money coming through. You know, the turnstiles or other revenues you get from, you know, opening your, you know, doors up to get public back into watch and spend money and around the football club, then it's the only, our only real source of revenue. So, you know, we don't get big bucks from the TV companies, like maybe the championship do. We don't get as much money up there and being in that level. So, and every penny counts.  And presumably the practice city, a private example of that now, they are living within the means of what they have.  But yeah, it's, it's an hours being here. The times where the club has gone into administration and just left the time it did. So, you know, but no, I think the club, I'd like, you know, I've looked after the, how the, you know, COVID is affected as well as we possibly can. And we've got to continue doing that naturally. Okay, thanks very much. Good luck on Saturday. Yeah, thank you. Hi, Stuart.  He said about the, obviously keeping the pyramid strong. I think it was, was it the other day that there was only Jaden Sancho was the only player who'd not been involved in the EFL in that, in that team at the time. I mean, that's only a selling point in terms of, you know, backing up this support, isn't it? Yeah, and I think they must have acknowledged that themselves, you know, when they've had the meeting. But again, you know, it depends who's making the decisions. The owners of the club, if you've got a lot of foreign owners of the, of clubs in the Premier League, are they really that bothered about bringing players through for England national team? Probably not, but no, I, yeah, it's a good point. I think it's football, it's your community, it's in the country, you know, every, a lot of football clubs are the lifeblood of the city or the town or whatever it may be. So I think it's naturally key to do that. Yeah. And I mean, obviously in terms of the transfer windows, I mean, presumably there's also the free agent market, which they're still a lot out there, aren't they? Yeah, and I find that, if I were a player now in the free agent market, I'd be thinking why am I still a free agent? Have I outpriced myself? You know, there's no clubs wanting me. I mean, we're down many months into the season now, you know, we've been back training since, what, July, August, September, October. So yeah, there possibly are, but it's, I find it, unless there's specific reasons, you know, a mentality for a footballer should be to get to a club and play football, because that's what you love doing, not sitting about waiting for the best deal or coming and adding. Now there might be odd occasions, you know, that people for certain reasons, I might have only just been paid up last week or been cut short to become a free agent, but for a lot of them, you know, if you've got a desire to play football, then why are you sitting on your backside for the last three or four months? I don't understand that. Yeah, I suppose there's a manager that probably goes into your thought process when you look at the list of names and sort of think, yeah, he's a good player, but when did he last play? Why is he not playing? I suppose it probably does hold you back a little bit, doesn't it? Yeah, unless there's, you know, there might be, you know, specific reasons for that, but you know, you can look at the desire to go and play, you know, because you're waiting for the next few queries, because you don't fancy that team or that league or whatever it is, but surely it comes as time within yourself. If your class is felt as a professional footballer, having been out for six months and you want everyone going back here, originally training, then playing, then surely you want to get out and be involved in what you're supposed to get paid for and being back in the dressing room. So, yeah, it's, it would have to be somebody, you know, with a reason for being like that. I won't really want to take somebody on board now because, you know, there's nobody else left in that. Again, you know, we've got no bodies. I don't want to just bring a body in for the sake of bringing a body in naturally, unless we've got, you know, I hate with loads of injuries, which hopefully won't happen, but we've got to be bringing somebody in that's going to try to make us better if that was going to be the case. And also, as you said before, you know, there's the January window, which let's not forget we're in October, mid-October now, it's not like before, you're talking five months, you're literally talking, well, two in a bit, aren't you? Yeah, exactly. That's a good point. And, you know, again, I'm not going to get all beat up about a disappointing performance the other night, yes, and people might think, we need this, we need that, but we'll work the best we can with what we've got at this moment in time and what we've got. So it's down then to us to get the best out of them. I'm putting, you know, performances like we've done OK up to the other night's game, taking, obviously, the 45 minutes against Lincoln out, it's been a solid start. But there'll be ups and downs, as I said, in the season, there'll be some results you look at. But I think it was the general performance that was disappointing because we know we can be better individually and collectively. There are a lot of disappointed people after the game and, you know, running into Tuesday and Wednesday, if I'm honest, especially it's the first time you've got a chance to be on the telly and obviously your family's watching, et cetera, et cetera.  So make sure next time we go out, we are better. Brought to you by DIS, keeping companies connected with cloud-based solutions. Come on, City!


It's live? Wait, the other server's live? Let's go check the other server's live. Wait, is Karazhan live? Oh, it is live. Okay, nice. Chat, we're good. Dude, my character looks dumb. Okay, what kind of gear did they give me? Okay, so we have tank gear. Spawners... Oh, oh, this isn't even... Yeah, this isn't tier, this is the tier zero. Okay, so we have pre-raid... Okay, so we have tank gear. So we're tanking today, dude. Garrett family crest. Why do I have a Garrett, level 57 Garrett family crest? But this gear doesn't make any sense.  This gear don't make no sense. What? These aren't tank rings. They did this in the last beta. Are you kidding me? They did the same thing in classic in the testing. They gave us... It's all DPS off pieces. And then they just gave us tier zero, but it's tank gear. That...  What? Big potions. They gave me tank tier to the dungeon set and then all DPS off pieces.  Yeah, I got a leather belt, man. They gave me a leather belt. Four strength, four stamp. Unfortunately not. It's actually 23 agility, 21 stamp, which is great too. Wait, they gave Paladins tanking the tanking set? Yeah. Because they gave them the dungeon set. I think they just default gave everyone the dungeon set and then filled in the blanks. Yeah. And they just like didn't... Whoever did this, like the intern didn't look at the stats. There's something that they say. I say it is what it is. It is what it is. It is what it is. It is what it is, man. It is what it is. We have to assemble a league of champions. Now, I don't know if this is going to be possible. I'm kind of worried about this, but I think we can do this. I really do guys. I 100% think that we can do this. Dude, there's no chance. We are going to win. Why? Dude, we have everybody's going to show up. They're freaking welfare gear. They don't, they got tank gear. You got DPS gear. Nobody knows how to play the game. I have an idea. Okay. What if we recruit people based off of trivia of the raid? Okay. So we recruit people. We get them to get in a circle around us. And then if they know the stuff about the raid, we invite them. Are you looking for lore masters or gamers, dude? I'm looking for people that can game and that are lore masters. Oh, Frick, the combo. I'm looking for game masters. Yes. That's what we need. We need some game masters. Yes. To spawn us the proper gear for our specs. Yes. I think Seedoo wants to join us too. Man, I'll be good. Seedoo! Yeah, I think Seedoo wants to join. What? The real Seedoo? The real one. That's fine with me. I'm not far through. Let's invite Clovers. Okay. I'm going to give you assist. Okay. And then you can keep making a group. And McConnell, let me go ahead and I'll give Spand Assist. Okay. There you go. And stay safe. I'll give you assist too. I might as well give Nano assist too. There's like a hundred people messaging me. People keep messaging me. I'm just going to invite a few people. Do not invite Melee. No Melee. Okay. If you're an enhanced Shaman, Rhett Paladin, or a Feral Druid, whisper me for me. Yes. Wait, are you tanking S1? Yeah, I guess. Yeah, it's me and Rhett Paladin. Oh, sick. Okay, nice. That's what we got S. Wait. We have three Warlocks? Yeah, hold on. We've got to figure this out. We should have just these two Warlocks. Yeah, we should have actually a balance group. You've got to give me the Warlock. We don't have any Warlocks for the props, man. It's fine. Yeah, yeah, it's okay.  You can have it. Stay safe. I don't care. Okay, Nano. Thank you, dude. Thank you. By the way, stay safe. You guys covered. Dude, I'm playing Felgard. It's going to be badass. Okay, sounds good. Felgard Nestro. Okay. Okay, what do we have? We have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. I think we need two more healers. Now we need one more healer in McConnell. McConnell, you're not in this group. I don't know where he is.  Hey. Yeah. Do you want them to play the Dono's during the raid or not?  You going to join? You going to come?  Okay. Okay. Okay. So we don't have... I kind of wanted a boomkin. A moon boy? You want a moon boy? Yeah, dude.   We're going to miss everything.  No, dude. They give us a hit. It makes everybody else stronger. Okay.   I don't think about the misses. I just think about the crits. Yeah, that's why you don't think about the moonkin.  It's too fast to get in the gate anyway. That's how it goes. Honestly, this group comp is garbage. It's really bad. We don't have a druid. We don't have... We can do it. I do. But I do really think we need a druid.  No hunters? Yeah, there's no hunters either. Apparently, there's people that can't handle the one button rotation. Okay, so we have six hours chat. We have to go do our entire two minute quest in six hours in the game. We gotta speed run it. Chat, are you ready? Guys! It's finally here. Okay. Is this working? Can you hear me? It's finally here. Okay, we're finally here in Karazhan. I'm very, very excited. Raid testing all week. We've got groules. We've got McTheiridons. We've got a good group together. The best group. Yes, it's back. The green screen is back. New raid content is back. Everything is back. For a few days. And then... We've got... We've got... We've got... We've got... We've got three days. And then... Eventually when TBC Classic comes out. Yes. The pogs flow. Just like the sweet... Sweet... Nectar of the Gods arena water. Which is unavailable to us yet. But... We're gonna have a great day. Great time. It's gonna be a lot of fun. Let's get after it. Dude, I don't think this is the... Did they have like a chorus singing? The music in Karazhan? Yeah. Are we gonna move in? Move in and wait right here. Oh, that's fine. It's fine. Ouch. See a nano? You know what they say, nano. Right. Sometimes you get... Sometimes you get not. Good old Karazhan. Such a massive raid it is. Good luck defeating the bosses. Thank you, dude.  But, let's see how it goes. Dude, nano, you lost your world buffs. How's it feel? It feels great. We're buffs. Congratulations. Nah, I think it drops once you... I'll pull one just a minute. Does it drop once you enter now? Did they change that? Can you even get it after level 63? I didn't see it. Yeah, 63 is the cap. Yeah, I think after level 63 you can't even get it. Is this scary? Do you want to do on this pull? It's gonna be three at the stable hands. You want to just pull all three of them and then I'll do two horses? Yeah, we can do that. All right, let's do that. I'm gonna pull them back to here. Okay, I'm gonna consecrate through the door. I'm bubble-canceling. Okay. We can stun the horses as well. We're gonna have to mention that. Sweet. They say, and I both remember that state of corruption is a thing at the same time. Yeah, that's not good. Destroy those mobs. I mean, the thing with state of corruption though is you have to be really good to use it, so not everyone can do it the right way. Yeah, you have to target the mob and then cast the spell. Right. Different things. I find it to 1, 2, 3, 4. I think it should be okay. Okay, so here's what we have to do for this boss. So we're gonna fight midnight until attunement comes out and then we're gonna do attunement.  Does that sound good? Now, I've heard that there are mechanics for this fight. Allegedly, allegedly. Allegedly. Let's lust whenever both of them are out. Who gets the mount, Annie or Eswin? We will roll it off. No, I'm gonna let Esmo in here. Yeah, we'll roll it off. He has to win sometimes, right? I want to note, I think Klober should have it. Aw, thanks. Dude, are you in vampire clan now? What happens to you, Sam? We're going. Yeah, I'll just, I'm just auto-ing. Okay. Stay on it. Yeah, it does the charge. Dispel. Decurs. I'll get him. Everybody decurs. We only have one mage who can decurs, yeah. I'll give him. Can Sheldon decurs? Dude, jump for your set of items. Ooh, Stalker's Warbands. Badger Justice. So Badger Justice. Fingers cross on Mount Drog. There wasn't Badger Justices in the beginning of the game. In Karazhan. Correct. I don't think there was. I'm going to give the Stalker's Warbands. Or they weren't there at all. And I'm going to give the gloves to Klober's. Okay. Okay. So what do you guys think about that? Do you guys think they should put Badger's Justice in Karazhan from the beginning? Yeah. I wonder. Oh, by the way, I gave it to Klober's because she's a girl. Okay. That seems legit. And then you gave it to Glitch because he thought he was a girl because he's playing a female character. Look, you got to take whatever chances you can with the female drain eye, okay? S-Fam, this is your time to shine. Move up. All right. Everybody come up here. Go to the second part. Oh, and by the way, guys, really great job on that first boss. I know that he can be pretty rough and it's not easy. Wasn't... Am I misremembering something? I thought we had to stack on him. Whenever he... No. Am I making that up? I don't know anything about that fight. I mean, we just like...  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're supposed to stack on him to prevent the charge. That's what it was. Okay. Okay, S-Fam, just charge up a little. I'm just going to pull a whole room. Yeah, yeah. Watch out. Pat. Pat. Yeah, I'll just pull one pack. Ready? I'm just going to take him right here. Bag space? Did I see bag space? This guy's cast has forgot. These guys are evaded. Oh, these guys are easy. I thought these guys were leaps. Two corruptions seems good. No, no, no. Okay, so these are non-elites. There are a few elite packs. Yeah. There are a few elite packs, but not really. All right, I'm going. I'm going in. No, no, no, no. I'm going alone. Run back. You just run back. Hold on. Where? Dude, I died. See the corruption? Go, go, go. Dude, where's my heels? How's that my fault? Yeah, I mean, I think that, that went really well. I should, that's obviously like, listen, guys, we come in here every week and we do the same damn thing. Why, like, why do we screw up? Like, this is just, this is like child's play. I could get a six-year-old to do this. Okay. At least I have chicken. How is that remotely my fault? It just, it blows my mind, man. Here's the thing. Would you have died if you were getting healed constantly? No. Yeah, exactly. See, I'm learning from the warriors who would tank raids and vanilla pretty good. Oh, what you, what you forgot. Now you need to kick the kick and heal around. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why don't you kick that girl out so you get another LSF clip about it? Yeah, exactly. Yo, good job, guys. We got it. Nice. Good threat. Except for Annie. Hey, I just spanned TV. Did I die? Just got here. How's it been going? It's going good, dude. Exactly. Yeah. Two packs, guys. Two packs. Stay focused. If I do the holy wrath there, I'll, I was going to get hit while casting. Nice. Oh my God. Cheetah corruption.  I'm telling you, it's broken. So servants are stunnable. Valleys are not stunnable. Okay, SFAN, this is, this is your room. Like you literally, this is the room that made me want to roll a prop out. You take the lead here. Actually, wait, let me do one other poll before you take the lead. Okay. I wish I had spoken spots. I should run through and. Two elites. Grab the others too. Animal always padding. I'm stunned. I'm stunned. Kill Stuart. Kill Stuart. Yeah. That's the, that's the big thing is, so if, if we get stunned, we can't like dodge block parry or anything. So we end up, it's like a really, really dangerous thing. Let's get residences out. Oh man. Why the healer's not, not keeping. Man, why these healers stuck, dick? Oh man, the healers. I knew, dude, man. I knew we should have gotten a shaman. Did we, did we blow us on, on the first boss? We did. We did. Oh, okay. We did. Yeah. Okay. Warlocks. You have to roll. Uh, one through 12. Who's got the biggest dick?  No, I'm in thank you. We'll not be one through 8.1. Come on.   Stay safe. Going back again. Wait here. Annie. Nice. Oh. Surprising. It's not expecting that. Okay. So here's kind of what I was thinking is we go on skull first and we're going to pop all CDs at the very beginning. We go on skull first and we get X as well. I'm going to pick up skull and X as fan pick up the other three and moros and tank them over to the right. And I will pull skull and X over to the left. Is that sound good? Do you want us to shackle any of them? Yeah. Yeah. Let's go ahead and shackle. Which ones do you want me to hit? Shackle Robin. Shackle Robin. And can we shackle one or two? Well, it's two free. So we should be able to one each, right? Yeah. I thought there was like a max that you can do. Okay. Sounds good. So Clovers, why don't you go ahead and shackle Robin and Zoo? Why don't you go ahead and shackle Crispin? Okay. So Zoo is shackling Crispin and Clovers is shackling Robin. I want you guys to move up and do that. I want you to do the pull with the cast. Pull with the cast. Hey, I think I should get skull because I'm not as tanky as you are. So they'll just kill it faster. Yes. But I have an interrupt and you don't. Okay. The reason I did that is Moro's is dual wheel, which means that you're going to get a ton of return damage on Moro's. Clovers, go ahead. Oh. And Zoo, go ahead. Unannounced visitors. Great job, guys. Everybody on skull, right? Nobody's on Moro's. That's fan pick up Moro's. He's immune to taunt. Great interrupt.  I just tabbed into one target. Yeah, somebody at my shackle. Okay, reshackle. Reshackle, war Robin. Good job. All right. Everybody, let's go ahead and get on Baron. Baron right now. We've got more. I'm pretty sure pallies can turn undead these guys too. Reshackle. I'm stunned. I'm stunned. I'm gouged. Moro's going to Zoo. Okay. We've got the first Geroad on Vepsis. Get a little farther away from Robin so he doesn't melee. They're gouged. Yeah. That's why you want to fight this guy at max melee range. Sorry. Caster range. Yeah. Give him some time. Okay. Here we go. I thought he wasn't going to come back. He left. Keep the reshackles up, guys. Keep the reshackles up. You know what I should try? I should try vengeance. He is enraged, gentlemen. He's pissed. He's very angry. We want to have big damage here. I'm messing around with my hockey's and stuff. Okay. Oh, let's see. That was a big boots, man. Yeah. That's a big boots right there. 100%. Let's get Robin. Move out. I'll pick up. I got this one. I think I'm like reactionary. One more. I'm going to pull Kristen over here. So, Chad, here's what dropped. Edgewalker long boots. Leather boots. Stamina hit. Attack power with two sockets. And then also a nether shard girdle. 30 and I like 22 stamina. 22 spirit. 35 spell damage. So, big items. A lot of main stats. What are the lore of this dungeon? I should have watched some Karazhan videos today, but today everything was kind of... Whenever Vernon Crusade comes out, for real, the day that we go do Karazhan, I'll probably watch some Karazhan lore videos. I think your mirrors are messed up, Annie. Wait, what's messed up? I think your mirror is messed up. Oh, wait, no, not on Marose. Actually, yeah, that's true. Oh, you did lose to Annie on Marose. Stay safe. Yeah, but my grandma here, I had to wait for a couple minutes. Oh, yeah, true, true, true, true, true, true, true. Thank you. So, then Tonio ripped aggro because he 1% HP lay on hands to me. So he got so much healing for it that he pulled aggro off both of us. And next time it's a stay safe starting for a bloodbust group. Wait, did Annie have bloodbust? Is that actually what it was? Yeah, she did, actually. Oh, my God. That's how it goes, dude. You know what? You can let them have it. I don't want it. Oh, yeah, she does a silence. Having fun?  Get ready to... Okay. Yeah, so that's the stun that we need to be in the consecration for. So it breaks immediately. We don't have the timers. It doesn't matter. It's much cleaner to just sit the stall. Yeah. There's him. As long as the tank doesn't die. You don't see the consecrate going out constantly? It might be your settings in your video so you can see it. The cart's all down. That's a head bump. Oh, those bracers. Dude, Glitch is getting just fed, dude. Glitch is getting, dude.  He's essentially ready to do like... He's gonna be ready for rules later tomorrow. Dude, Glitch, you are farming. Here it is. The opera event. Yes, that's right. We're here in Karazhan getting ready for the opera event. Very, very excited. One of the most iconic... Oh, Frick. The show is starting, dude. I gotta get out of here. Frick. The show's starting. It was not a fart. A Frick. I wasn't muted. Okay, go for it. That's fine. Go for it. And I'll get Juliet on the next one, okay? Remember, they need to die at the same time. Dispel. Dispel. Dispel. Good job. This is a hard face, guys. Get ready. Dispel, Juliet. It's close. Good deals. Both need to die at the same time. More damage on Romulan. Interrupt next Juliana cap. That's fine. That's fine. We need more damage on Romulan. I'm going to interrupt the eternal affliction from now on. You guys get the echo. More damage on Romulan. Yeah, we're killing Juliana. Yeah, they need to die at the same time. Well, actually, it's probably not like we remember, dude. Spam interrupts on her. Jujis? Do you remember that guy? Both of these guys are such good trinkets, dude. That's a good one, man. That's crazy. Dude, that'd be crazy if a warrior rolled on her. For like my threats, you know? Move up, guys. You guys got to take the ribbon of sacrifice for your flash set. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I feel pretty strongly that they need to buff it. Because, like, there's just- Feel pretty strongly about what? That they need to buff it. You think they should buff the game? Yeah. About the ball too. There needs to be something. And I get, like, it's a slippery slope if we start tuning balls and stuff. But there's a line, right? If people don't feel any sense of accomplishment for doing the raids at all, then why even play the game? Dude, I think what is really good, I heard that every other raid that's in here is actually wiping left and right, and that we're actually the furthest progressed at the moment. And other raids are stuck on the first boss. Yes. Yeah, dude, we're actually the best. Nice. We're famous. We're on pace for the world speed record at the moment.  And it's like, it wasn't hard, but we made it hard because we weren't good players. Like, people progressed Karazhan. Like, people took their guild pictures and put it on their website because they killed, like, Maiden of Virtue. So, like, there was progression in Karazhan back in the day. I think at the end of the day, it comes down to this.  It doesn't really matter what matters is the feeling of authenticity. It's a good point. I don't care what magic resist and armor, and I don't care about the facts. It just doesn't matter. It's about as famous as anyway. When did you start swimming? When I started playing Cornward.  Yeah, that's true. You can spank me whenever you want.  This next time. You can practice. Dude, how many weeks out are you? Are you even weeks out at this point? Two, right? Two weeks. Two weeks. Yeah. Two weeks, and so, wait, wait. Is this when I think it's happening? Dad's safe. Stay dad. So we have a baby, yep. Okay. Okay, so we want to kill the flare. It's not a good use of blood loss, bro. Okay. Kill those fl- Everybody on fl- Yeah, these guys are gonna be into taunt, too. These flares are. So if you have a flare on you, just run it through the tanks. Three more? Three more? Yeah, run them to me. If you have a flare, try and run them to me. I don't know if they have, like, enough threat table or what. They don't have aggro though. Just kill them. You sure? They're aggroing me now. So yeah, run them to the consequence. Do not touch the displays. Reset them. I always said this is a joke. Do not touch the room. Yeah, I think there is an aggro table. I think there's no, they're taunt immune, I think. Because I had aggro on two of them at the same time. It could have just been RNG.  Whenever, yeah, whenever there's a, one of the flares come up, if you have aggro on one, run to, run to me, and then I'll just consecrate and I'll be able to tank them. The other rules will be strictly enforced.  This is impossible. I know, I should bug, dude. It's bugged. Yeah, it's too, it's too easy. Is it bugged? All right. Okay, just play this out boys. Play this out. I'm taking a lot of damage. How's our healer man? I can't, I don't have my UI. It's okay. Two flares on me. Okay. There's bobby clovers, just because. Happy to see some TBC action. Keep it up. Guys, keep it up, keep it up, keep it up. Next set, really. Twitch, get away from me. Don't wipe, smile. I'll pop up if you have onk.   I think, I think we're gonna die if we do that. Yeah, I think we just need to kill the ads.   I totally forgot. It's like a 10% he goes crazy mode, right? Yeah, I don't think he's sponsored answering this. Yeah, I think we're good. It's over. With a show, we should have this. Watch this live. Right after I said that. But I got a flag row and everything is perfect at this point.  Nice, there it is, dude. Very good. Oh, finally. Finally, finally, finally. That was good. Chat, look at these legs, dude. Rin, dynasties, grieves, 24 strength, 48 stamina, red, yellow, yellow, 27 defense, 29 dodge. Can you show your talents? I went with this and I went 21. I wonder if there was a way that I could have done this. Oh, I think I got boards. I forgot to change this. I was going to get 12 stamina boots. Did I buy that? I forgot to buy 12 stamina boots. I have the wrong boot in chant. Can I get that? Nope, because I got it. Look at that. Rin, dynasty, grieves. Very good. Oh my God. Any moon boys? Oh, dude. This is a rogue ring. This is a rogue poison ring. Real simple. I'm going to pick up ill hoof. S-fan pick up everything else.  Cool, sounds good. Kill wreck I think makes ill hoof take more damage whenever he's dead. So it should be all we really need to do.  So I figure we just go in there and we beat him and then he's dead. Sound good? All those chains. We got a new chain. Sounds good. Okay, cool.  I forgot about that. Thank you. Okay, here we go. Point out. The rituals are about to accept this humble offering. Chain? Dude, the seed of corruption is like owning people coming out. It's disgusting. I think a seed is going off every single time.  Demonic chain.  Honestly, these guys, it's not a big deal. The biggest problem is I need to take some damage so I can get heals or so I can get mana. Focus down ill hoof.  Break out the chain. Good mace. Good mace. Fool's bane. You guys want to try the Shade of Aaron exploit thing? No, no, no, let's do the fight normally. What's the exploit thing? I don't think I heard about that. You stand outside the door and then like you tank them there and so you get it. Good job, Stacy.  Okay, come on guys. Get these interrupts. These guys aren't too bad. No, no, we just have to have interrupts on them. They're super easy as long as you have them. Anyway, you're just going to have to not have to deal with the elemental guys if you like to stand by the door. I don't even know if it works. Like who knows if they fix it or whatever.  Sure. I have to turn the bathroom. I don't want him anymore. We've done a lot today. We've done a whole lot. We've gotten about half a carousel done so far. We did the opera event. We killed the Iron Maiden of virtue. We killed Morose earlier.  He's undead, but he's back. Ottoman, the Huntsman curator was super fun. Curator was the most fun so far. But now, Shade of Aaron. No, not Shade of Iran. Shade of Aaron. It is different. What is so hard to understand about that? What are you talking about? He is not Iranian. But I gotta go to the bathroom. Wait, Marie. Don't move. Everybody go ahead and click yes. And we're all ready. All right. Pulling, gentlemen. And three, two, one. Let's go. Who are you? Spread out. There's going to be blizzards too. Let's watch out for that. Don't. Don't. I'm so tempted. Do it. Don't you do it. I'm so tempted. Run the edge. Run the edge. Run the edge. Run the edge. Run the edge. You can cleanse these, can't we? Yes, yes, yes. Run the edge. Run the edge. Just run to the edge. OK, so you can bubble it too. I wasn't sure. Blizzard, move in. You've got to move in. You've got to move in. Move in. Blizzard goes in a circle around the room, right? Yeah, it rotates around. Antonio, plan around. You can freedom people with it too. Better not be having fun than Tony. Elementals are coming out really soon here. Get ready. Let's get banishes on elementals. Banishes on elementals now. OK, run out. Try to kill these one of them. Scorp, let's kill this one here together. Nice job, guys. All right. Range, can you kill Triangle?  Just keep it clean. I'll get next interrupt. Just kidding. Don't. Don't. Do not move. Oh, please, dude. I don't know. Do not move. Glitch, if it went on you, I hope you know that you would have wiped us. Hey, can you jump if you have it, though? Don't. No. No, you can't. I think actually you can. I think you can. Move in. Move in. Move in. Everybody move in. Rick. Someone should test it. Nope. I want one of those other shitty groups tested. Run out. I'll get some blizzard damage. Probably could have killed them, but let's just move out. You guys did the fight, right? That's incredible.  I think I feel like a bad person. I should have done the flat rate, dude. I need that.  Aswin, Aswin, can you rephrase that? Come on. Yes, I will rephrase that. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. These big white booties. Yeah, there you go. Were so good.  And I got these on my paladin to heal with, and I had them for the entire expansion. Sorcerer's shade, everybody on it, everybody on it. I'm dead. Dude, where's the healers? Healers. I challenged them. Challenge. Nice day, Aswin. Huh? It's a nice day. Nice weather. That's good, dude. That's my family. Nice and cool. Yeah. Nice and cool out. That's good. All right. How much health does this guy have? So you do want to do another spike? I'm just worried. Like, I can't have like, people might go, like they're going to need to go to raid that's all. So do you want to just do, do you want to just do Prince? I mean, I'm down for whatever they think they can do. It's okay. What do you guys want to do? I don't mind. You guys can decide. I think we're going to wipe another spike probably a couple of times. So people have to go. Really? Yeah, I do. That's what I would think. No faith, huh? No. This is pragmatism. Let's get a soul stone on Clovers and let's give it one good attempt. Does that sound good? All right. So for the different debuffs, we're going to go through this rotation. I'm going to get first red. S-Fan gets second red. Scorp gets third red. And Scorp, if mine runs out in time, I'll just go ahead and do it again. Blitz, you can be fourth red. It's been so long since we blessed the raids. For the blues, this is for casters. It's going to start with Depsis, which is stay safe. And then it's going to be Annie and then Rick. And they're going to rotate. Then for the healers, it's going to be Clovers at the beginning, then Tonio second and Zoop third. And all three of you are rotating around in the beams. Okay. Do you know how many stacks we're staying in for? Yeah, I forgot a lot of this fight. We didn't even, we skipped this boss a lot of times back in the day, so I'm not super fresh on it. There's three beams and each beam channels into Nether's fight and you have to interrupt all three beams. One beam is blue. It increases your damage. One beam is green. It increases your healing. One beam is red. It increases your tanking abilities. Right. So we're going to do the beam rotation. And then... Yeah. But we're talking about the stacks. We're just going to just go forward and see what happens. I don't remember how long it may just go until you think you're going to die and then just call to have somebody else rotate it. So when he goes into his like shadow phase, you run to the far wall because it is like an eight week explosion, right? He does a knockback and then also he doesn't do any of the, any of the beams during the shadow phase. Move in boys. I'll let you know. Okay. I'm 20 on greens. I'm going to take this healer. That's fantastic. That's fantastic. Okay, got it. You want Scorp taking the third one? Yes. Okay. Everybody don't get knocked back. Stay together. Stay together, guys. Stay together. This is the reset. So you're going to have another breath. So Scorp, whenever you get aggro, you're going to go ahead and you're going to use evasion. Okay. Scorp, you start on red. I can't go blue for 25 seconds. Can someone soak blue for a second? Yeah, Glitch is doing it. Watch out for the void zones or whatever they're doing. Glitch, go ahead and get red. Glitch, go ahead and get red. All right. I'm about to draw a line in just a minute. Get ready. So S-Fan, you got to start with red. Okay. Oh yeah. That's fine. I can do that. S-Fan, start with red and then stay safe. Get red after. It's a white. Wipe it up. Culver's gets the edge. It's up. It's white.  Sometimes you get it. Sometimes you get God. Oh, I got red. I got red. I got red. Okay. Good job. You going to take him out? No, I got blue. I got blue. You're rid of a map? I got green. I got green. Oh, so close, dude. I thought I had it. Yeah, honestly, like he was inches away from dying. Annie, evidently the blue thing stacks with drain life. So you and I can just alternate and we can do like one full cycle and we just sit there and drain life, I guess, maybe. Oh. Wait, doesn't it reduce healing? Oh, does it? That's some Twitch chat comment. I don't know. Okay. So how many people do we have to, about a handful of people? We can swap out. We can finish up. We got a lot of people got to leave. I don't know if we can do this. I'm down to finish it. I will stay until the end of time. Okay. Who's with me? We can do it, guys. We just got to work. We can do it. I kind of want to get my food, man. Honestly, I do. I didn't expect it to take this long. I think if we get a bunch of new people in here, we're going to have to reteach them. We're losing two of our main healers.  I wonder if they're going to have Karazhan testing open tomorrow. Maybe. I think that'll be good.  That'd be great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just bad timing. Because tomorrow is Ghoul's Lair, right? Tomorrow's Ghouls. Thursdays. Yeah. Thursdays MacDarodons. Thursdays MacDarodons. I'm excited about MacDarodon. Yeah. Tuesday testing is kind of bad, because somebody will have to raid on Tuesdays. Yeah, I agree with that.   I mean, if we had more time. I guess we're just not good enough to beat Karazhan. Honestly, guys, listen. I want you to understand something. Let's get together over here. This raid is hard.   So you need to understand that this is not an easy thing to do. Many people go into here and they can never finish it. It's a long raid. It's challenging.  Too many. Too many to come in.


The floor may not be a robot. A couple of months ago, I began my classes at Chico State University. As I was preparing for my freshman year, I was able to find everything that I needed, except for a laptop. I'm not exactly very good at letting a dollar go for something, especially when I could get that something for less. I stoured the internet for good deals on laptops, finding none that suited my frugal habits. Classes were only two weeks away, and I was becoming desperate for a computer. Several days later, I saw an ad in the newspaper for a laptop that was being sold for only $600, and not too far from where I live. It was a very nice dull laptop too, seeming on that it was being sold for almost $1,000 less than a store price. I drove to the seller's address the following day. The house was farther out of the city, butting up to a dense forest. Outside of the house was an old Chevrolet, and a mess of old signs and other various vintage-looking items. I rang the doorbell, and a thin man in a flannel jacket came to the door. When I asked about the laptop, he looked almost relieved, and told me he was ready to sell it immediately. Luckily I came with cash in hand and after proof of good condition, I went home with a new computer. Excited to have my first self-bought laptop, I powered it up and began uploading my own programs and applications onto it. Upon searching the hard drive, I found a folder yet in a way on it, which was on because the man selling it told me that the memory was wiped clean and ready for a fresh start. The folder was titled, September 17, 2010, presumably a date. I opened the folder, revealing six videos and three pictures. Curiosity got the best of me, and I decided to watch the videos. The first video was simply titled, 001. The video was shot from a shaky camcorder inside of a vehicle, recording a woman walking out of a bar and getting into her car at night. After a couple of seconds the woman drove off, and almost immediately, the person recording the video began to drive after her. The video ended after 24 seconds. It almost seemed like the cameraman had been waiting for the woman for a while. Come to think of it, I wasn't too alarmed by this at the time, just a little unsettled. I opened the next video file, titled 002. I assumed that this was the next part of the first video. My assumption was right, as it began with the camera on top of the console, facing out of the windshield. It was raining now, leading me to believe that this was a short while after the first video ended. I could barely make out that the vehicle to cars ahead of this one was the same car that the woman at the bar left in. This went on for an unsettling 47 seconds, before the camera cut out. I began to get a little nervous, fearing that this might take a turn for the worst. But as if I was watching a television show, I wanted to see where this was headed. Not totally concerned yet, I decided to press on. The third video was, of course, titled 003. This was the one that got me officially concerned. The clip began from the same shaky hands as the first clip. It was now pouring rain outside of the car, and I could barely make out a figure in a fur coat with an umbrella walking to the front door of a house. I could only assume who this person was, and whose house this belonged to. The figure entered the house and closed the door. The following stillness greatly inerted me. The only thing that could be heard was the sound of rain jumping on top of the car. After roughly two minutes of this nerve-wracking nothingness, the lights inside of the house cut out. Another minute or so went by before the camera was placed onto the console again, and the sound of a person exiting the car broke the stillness. After the car door quietly closed, another figure, this time headed could be seen walking towards the house. I began to feel a knot tightening in the bottom of my stomach as the stranger walked around to the back of the house. However this person was, they definitely weren't supposed to be there. After another couple of seconds, the lights to the outside of the house cut out. It was pitch black, and only the rain alerted me that the camera was still rolling. The video ended after about nine minutes of rain and darkness.  Was this person stalking the woman the same person that I met with earlier? Throughout the whole experience, I had a dormant thought in the back of my head to call the police, but I wasn't ready just yet. Reluctantly now, I began the fourth video, 004. It was dark again, but the rain had stopped, and I was left with only silence. Not long after the clip began, I could make out the sound of footsteps on gravel, getting louder as someone was approaching the vehicle. The car door opened and the dome light was turned on, and I could tell that the camera was now on the floor of the car, pointing up towards the roof. I heard some thumbling in the background, and suddenly a thump sounding from the back of the truck. An arm abruptly obstructed the camera's view and a large sharp could be seen being pulled out from the car. I had only one scenario running through my head, and I hoped that it wasn't true.  They drove for a good three minutes before parking in a branched off-road, and exiting the car to work on the load they were carrying. Six minutes after, the car was moved again to a different location, and the camera was picked up and carried underhanded away from the car.  I was about ready to call the cops on this creep when the camera turned towards the house. It was a completely different house than the one I visited. I was a little relieved by this, though it didn't prove anything. As the fourth video came to an end, I was wondering whether or not I was prepared to see what came next. I could only hope that this was a prank, or at least had a happy ending. 005 began inside the house. It was extremely dark, and the only thing I could make out was a figure that would occasionally walk in front of the camera. It was also quiet for the first few moments, minus the occasional barking of a dog outside. Eventually a small sound started to appear. The small sound soon escalated to a loud muffled scream. Shaking and struggling sounds became more apparent as time went on, as well as crying. A light abruptly came on, and the camera was lifted and pan to the center of the room, revealing a beaten and bloody woman tied to a chair. From what I could make out, this was in fact, the woman from the bar. The camera zoomed in on her face for what seemed like an eternity before stopping. I couldn't believe that this was happening. The original hope that this was a movie or something like that had long since diminished. With only one video remaining, I was beginning to fear for my own safety. I locked my door, closed my blinds and pushed onward. I began 006 with a small hope that this woman was still alive, and that I could have her saved. The final installment of this horror show began in a bathroom setting. The camera was placed on the counter, facing a mirror, in which I could see a door. The only sound I could make was a familiar sound that destroyed my hopes, power tools. I sat in front of the screen for what felt like hours before the sound stopped. More silence. Then heavy footsteps, accompanied by what sounded like something being dragged. The door not turned and the door was pushed open. Out of the darkness of the rest of the house appeared a middle-aged woman dressed in what I can only describe as labitair, sporting a respirator and a pair of long rubber gloves. This, for some strange reason, gave me a small amount of relief. In the reflection, the woman struggled to drag something to the bathtub. As she hoisted it into the tub, I could see that it was a large, black garbage bag. I felt like I was dreaming. It was like I was watching a horror movie and folding on the screen. She lifted the bag up from the tub, now empty, except for whatever entrails that still dropped out. She picked up the camera and placed it on the ground, facing the tub. On the floor in front of the bathtub was an assortment of corrosive substances and several other empty containers. The woman began to dump the liquids into the tub, which was followed by an awful, awful noise that I can only describe as pop rocks mixed with coke. The video ended, and I was left bewildered and panicked. I finally opened the pictures. The first was a picture of the truck. The second was a picture of the girl, tied up, before she was beaten. And the third picture brought up a corrupted file notice, but maybe that's a good thing. I managed to keep the two pictures before I handed the laptop over to the police. I was reimbursed my $600, along with a bonus. Apparently the victim was the young girl friend of the older woman's ex-husband. The older woman was arrested almost a year before, but was freed of all charges due to a lack of evidence, and the ex-husband was incarcerated instead. I guess this was the missing link. I hope this has solved any unanswered questions. Although I'm not sure who the man in the flannel jacket was or how he got ahold of the laptop, or how he owns the same truck as the murderer. I guess I'll just leave that to the police.