Felly, wrth gwrs, wrth gwrs, i'w ddechrau i gael dweud i dynnu'r clymddol i chi'n gweithio i ddau'r cyd-dweud i ddau'r cyd-dweud i chi'n ddau'r cyd-dweud i chi'n gweithio. Diolch yn fawr, Lossy Mawd High School i fynd, i'r Christine Johnston, Katie Jones i'r Amheron Anderson i fynd. Rwy'n fawr i'n gweithwyr Charleston i'r Morfinn Cirmaiqel, I'm now going to invite the First Speaker from Losty Mouth to open the debate for the proposition. Good morning ladies and gentlemen, Madam Chair, judges and opposition. My name is Christine Johnson and these are my colleagues Katie and Amy. We are from Losty Mouth High School. This House believes that Scotland should continue to lead the way in marine energy technology, First, let me define the motion. The motion means to continue to be in the forefront, in manufacturing and advancing marine energies, something that we strongly agree with. These are tidal turbines, underwater windmills, tidal barrages, similar to hydro dams, and wave-powered devices that harness up and down the motion of the sea. As the motion states, Scotland is leading the way in marine technology, we as a nation are strong and smart enough to know an amazing opportunity when we see one. That is why today, in our persuasive argument, we will convince you that Scotland should continue to lead the way in marine technology. My colleague, Ms Jones, our main speaker, will go into more detail of our argument and Ms Anderson will summarise our main points. The Scottish Government recognises the potential to take advantage of these extensive marine energy resources available in the Scottish waters. Believe it or not, ladies and gentlemen, around 10 per cent of Europe's total wave-powered resources flow in the sea surrounding the highlands and islands of Scotland. What is marine technology? Marine technology includes two renewable energy sources, tidal and wave energy. Those two renewable energy sources have the potential for our country. We as a nation have already realised that. Since Scotland possesses huge wave and tidal energy resources and the potential already exists to generate more electricity than we currently need from the waters around the Scottish coast, not only are they powerful, but wave and tidal energy have very low greenhouse gas emissions, making it not only beneficial for us as a country but also for the rest of the world. The Scottish Government believes that wave and tidal energy will make an important contribution towards meeting the future demand for electricity. The Scottish Government is very proud of the progress that we have already made as a country with marine technologies. Ladies and gentlemen, that is not something that only this Government should be proud of but also us as a nation. No, thank you. The Government has stated that it will continue to support the local employment for marine energy technologies. Renewables in general open up huge employment opportunities. For Scotland, marine technology plays a big part. Already, the marine industry has opened up so many jobs. Yes, please. Does the proposition not realise that more often than not, the marine plans are looked at and then scrapped because there is not going to be any use? Well, that might be some of the cases, but the Scottish population still has the potential to provide a huge economic benefit from that. I hope that that answers your question. Already, Scotland has marine technology projects in the Penlangford and Orkney waters. There are so many benefits inside marine technology and, as you can already tell, Scotland has grasped it. Scotland is home to some of the most advanced wave and tidal technology developers in the world. There is already a boost in place for Scotland in the marine energy sector, but, ladies and gentlemen, not only in the Scottish waters but marine technology is also making a change on land. Centres, jobs and universities are all opening up thanks to marine technology. Scottish people are now basking in the fact that we have these amazing opportunities right between our teeth. They are realising that we should continue to lead the way in marine energy technology, as we have been doing so well so far. Ladies and gentlemen, we as a house also see and agree with this. Marine technology plays a big part in contributing to the Scottish Government's targets to meet 100 per cent demand for electricity by 2020, something that we have already expressed we are all for. Scotland is leading the way and there is no need to stop now. It has been proven safe and stable up to now, and we believe that, as a house, Scotland is smart enough to carry on at this high standard that we are already delivering to the rest of the world. We are very fortunate that the majority of this beautiful country is surrounded by coastline. Already, we have harnessed this as benefit. The coast isn't just for a jolly picture out by the sea. Your homes are being powered with electricity. Isn't this just an amazing thought? Don't stop leading the way, Scotland. What is the point of stopping? Continue leading the way and make our country known as the country that leads the world in marine technology. Thank you very much. I am now going to invite the first Opposition speaker to outline their case from Chaston. Madden chair, judges, fellow debaters, ladies and gentlemen, the Arhamedes screw, the tidal kite, the point absorber and the vertical axis turbine. The list of marine energy devices that are being tried, tested and more often than not scrapped in Scotland is endless, and so is the obscene amount of money being thrown into developing one system that might just be effective. It is clear to any right-minded individual that Scotland should not continue to lead the way because in marine energy technology, because what Scotland is actually doing, it is leading itself up the garden path to nowhere. I intend to convince you that the cost of trying to develop a system that works is extortionate, and my colleague, Miss Morris, will cover the dangers to the environment that the DASH leads the way in marine energy technology presents. In July 2012, when climate change minister Greg Barker opened Scotland's first zone for development of marine energy, he was optimistic that marine energy could provide 13 gigawatts of capacity by 2020. But just two years down the line, massive costs faced by developers in Scotland's marine energy park to connect their wave and tidal project to the grid is holding back both investment and progression. Chargers for the Pentland Firth and Orkney area have almost doubled for £56 million last year to an estimated £107 million by 2020. This is shocking. Scotland should not be sinking such vast amounts of money into schemes that cannot guarantee a secure power source, just to be considered leaders. Housing wave power is complex, and Robert Thresher from the National Renewables Energy Laboratory confirms that the best device might not have even been invented yet. AWS Ocean Energy has been developing a subsea wave device, the ScotRenewables options of floating motor, and WaveGen and Open Hydro, the tidal ring. And the most high-profile development have been Acron, Marines Oyster and Ocean Paris Technologies Power Boy. As you can see, Scotland is leading the way in many different types of marine energy technology, but no one can say for certain which of these is the most effective. Advancement technology are happening at a fast and furious pace. Acron, Marines Oyster, for instance, is now being updated to a second generation model, as the first is considered outdated. Surely we should wait for some credible technology to be created that will all us to benefit fully. Countries such as China are also developing marine energy technology. The largest project in China is a $30 billion tidal wall that could have installed power base at about a gigawatt. Why not wait and see what China and others come up with? We could wait, save billions, implement systems that have been proven to work and can provide Scotland with clean, green and reliable energy. Yes, please. There is no need to wait when Scotland is already leading the way. There is no need to stop. Scotland is leading the way at a huge cost because the things that we are creating do not work and we have to keep trying and trying again. Other countries will be doing much better than us very soon. We should wait and copy them. When we don't really look back in history to the great king Robert the Bruce to learn how watching others, instead of forging ahead in our own, can have a positive effect, he failed in battles against English until he watched the spider building her web. He learned a valuable lesson from the tiny creature and went on to be victorious at Banffren 700 years ago. We should stop leading the way before we lose our wee bit hill in Glen that King Robert and his army fought and died for to the carcasses of marine energy devices. Securing Scotland's future is much more important than being the leader in marine energy technology. We need to be realistic and not waste money on projects that cannot guarantee positive effects. Ladies and gentlemen, I beg you to oppose the motion. Thank you very much indeed and I'm now going to call on the second speaker to make the case for the proposition from Losimeth. Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. My name is Katie Jones and this house believes that Scotland should continue to lead the way in marine technology. I will now go over a few points that the Opposition made in their introduction. You say that the majority of projects are being scrapped. Well, just recently, the developments that you mentioned are being harnessed for us to use. Marine technology is our future and we are leading the way and there is no need to stop. As my colleague already expressed, marine technology is a renewable combination of tidal and wave energy. Tidal energy captures the kinetic energy of currents that have been created by the gravitational pull from the sun and the moon. Wave energy harnesses the kinetic energy from waves that have been created by winds blowing over. Scotland is home to the most advanced wave and tidal technology developments in the world. These are the coastlines around Shetland, Orkney and the Outer Hebrides. These places have some of the best natural resources in the world. Marine energy suits Scotland right down to the border, as we can already see. The biggest part of our country is the coastline. We are suited to this kind of development. We have some of the biggest waves in the world. We are used to marine technology. Opposition, no thanks. Can't you see we need to continue to lead the way? Ladies and gentlemen, as Christine already stated, there are so many benefits that come with marine technology. It is extremely reliable and predictable. It's not as if the tide is suddenly going to stop coming in or out. The Scottish Government estimates Scotland, no thanks, Scotland waive resources at 1.4 gigawatts and tidal at 7.5 gigawatts, and every gigawatt can power up to 2 million houses per year in Scotland. The benefits don't stop here. So far, marine technology has opened up so many job opportunities in Scotland, with many more to come as marine energy continues to lead the way in Scottish waters. Fisherman, who are losing their jobs due to the huge amount of marine technology in the water, wouldn't say that that's creating jobs. Well, marine technology isn't taking up the whole of the ocean, so I'm sure they can find somewhere else to fish, but also help create new foreign markets to export Scottish skills tomorrow. This is putting Scotland at the forefront of the fast growing global tidal energy sector, another one of the multiple reasons that Scotland should continue to lead the way in marine technology. This kind of energy has very low greenhouse gas emissions, something that's not only beneficial for Scotland but also for the rest of the world. It's opened up a global export market in a secure and clean domestic energy supply. Marine Energy Company, Green Theme, have developed a cable mounted device called Cablefish, that includes a camera and GPS to help with cable installation in fast flowing conditions, so that it makes marine technology a much safer thing to install. Designed anginering company, Tension Technology International and partners to design a novel mooring system that can be used for wave and tidal arrays. Marine Data Experts Park track, along with partners, have carried out surveys at two Scottish sites to understand the turbulence and tidal flows, as we are still leading the way as we are gathering more information. The Pentland Firth in Orkney waters have an amazing destructive power. We have already taken advantage of that and recently installed an underwater turbine to capture and harness the waves, so we can use it safely for our Scottish electricity. In the Pentland and in Orkney waters, future development has already planned. The Scottish First Minister, Alex Salmond, said that the potential of the Pentland Firth in Orkney waters is quite staggering. He also stated that marine technology is reliable and can almost pump out electricity for homes and businesses. The many opinions that Alex Salmond has, he is definitely right with this statement. The ocean holds enormous quantities of potential energy that can be developed with very low green house gas emissions. Scotland's seas have enormous waves and amazing tidal power. We need to harness this as we already have. The sea can be used to generate electricity in three different ways. Tidal turbines, tidal barrages and wave-powered devices. Tidal turbines work like underwater windmills. Those turbines are much more advanced than on land wind turbines that we use across our Scottish land state, but we are still a fan of those underwater ones. Barrages work like hydroelectric dams, only built in the water, and wave-powered devices harness the ups and downs movements of the sea. Scotland's marine energy sector is to benefit from almost £5 million. That was announced by the energy minister, Fergus Ewing. Speaking of money, there is also going to be a £4.8 million boost to the marine energy sector. This shows that not only the Scottish Government is all for marine energy, but also the Scottish population. As the Scottish Government aimed to meet 100 cent demand for electricity from renewals, marine technology plays a big part in this. As Christine expressed in her introduction, around 10 per cent of Europe's total wave resources flows in the seas surrounding the highlands and islands of Scotland. Also, reports to the Scottish Government calculate some 14 gigawatts of recoverable energy lying on the western and northern boundaries. That potential has drawn world wave energy developers to this part of Scotland. That helps to contribute once more to the Government's targets set for 100 per cent Scotland's electricity from renewables. Scotland has the largest and most advanced industry of marine energy. We are leading the way with companies like EMEC, based in Edinburgh, where we are today, with stations in various places, including Orkney. There is a huge potential, and the Scottish Government recognises it and wants to take full advantage of the marine energies. The UK is one of the world's best marine resources. The previously mentioned Pentland Firth in Orkney waters have a place in more than half of the top 10 tidal development sites in the world. Isn't this just crazy that a little island like us can be world leading in something so big and new and amazing? We could change the face of Scotland, our home forever, if we act now and not stop leading the way in marine technology. Seriously, why stop? There is no need to stop. Only bad things can come out of stopping to lead the way. Thank you. Thank you very much, Lucy Mouth, and I'm now going to call on the second speaker to make the case for the Opposition from Charleston. Madam Chair, judges, fellow debaters, ladies and gentlemen, Scotland should absolutely not continue to lead the way in marine energy technology, because only fools dive in without testing the water. My colleague, Ms Carmichael, I'm sure convinced to you that the money that we are squandering in marine energy is shocking, and I will now reveal to you the real and present dangers to marine life and traditional industries that are posed by the rapid development of marine energy technology. Marine energy researchers have a pretty good handle on the movement of water in tidal areas, but numerous factors remain unknown. Environmentalists fear that Scotland is propelling marine energy along far too quickly. Without fully understanding the impact it can have to the oceans and life within them. There are very real fears that the natural sea world will be devastated by both the submerged and above water turbines that are concentrated in tidal areas. While energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can be captured and transferred to other uses like fulfilling our electrical needs. The proposition claims that Scotland is right to lead the way in this source of energy, but what the proposition needs to recognise is that the kinetic energy that Scotland is trying to capture in the seas around our coastline is already being used. It is doing what it was meant to do, which is serving the aquatic environment, perhaps in ways that we don't fully understand yet. We have surged into leading the way in tidal turbine energy production, because a technology looks like a good idea. Underwater turbines produce no CO2 emissions and energy production is passive simply capturing some of the kinetic energy found in the tidal movement and transforming it into electricity. It appears to be flawless, but, as William Shakespeare stated, wisely and slow, they stumble that run fast. There is very little data concerning the impact underwater turbines can have on marine ecosystems. A rapidly spinning blade could easily turn a little fishy into mush with a single swipe. Are you aware that the Scottish Marine Life Trust are getting a netting to protect animals and they are going to put it around the turbines? The turbines are being placed in the animals' homes. They will have to move, and the open sea is not a safe place for a lot of those animals who are used to being closer to shore. Although fish lovers will be happy to learn that, at present, underwater turbines spin slowly once it turns at 10 to 20 rotations per minute, the next generations of turbines that Ms Carmichael spoke of are set to rotate at a faster rate so as to be more efficient and, indeed, more lethal to marine life. No, thank you. The Scottish Government is quite rightly concerned about our marine flora and fauna, and many research projects have been set up to look into the damaging effects of marine energy. Those include the population dynamics of fourth and TAY breeding seabirds, the statistical modelling of bird and cetacean distributions in offshore renewables development areas, and the analysis of fish and fisheries data to assess the potential impact of marine energy. That all sounds great, doesn't it? Well, it's not. Due to the fact that Scotland is plowing ahead and leading the way with its plans for marine energy without waiting for the results of these reports, innumerable environmental damage could be happening right now. Scotland should be leading the way in research to ensure that the safety of our environment rather than pursuing ever-changing and, as Morvan highlighted, very expensive development in marine energy. The lack of understanding of the turbine's environmental impact goes both ways, too. Questions remain as to what kind of effect the aquatic environment will have on the technology. For example, will barnacles accumulate on the turbines of rotors, slowing or even stopping them? Without that essential knowledge, Scotland should not be leading the way in marine energy technology. The opposition fantasises about the so-called effective and fantastic new technology, but the facts are irrefutable. We cannot disregard the appalling effects that marine technology could have on our stunning environment. How awful it would be if Scotland turned out to be the cause of the destruction of incredible marine life such as the Laphilia corals, the mud lobster, the tiny scaleless blanny fish, and vibrant seaweeds like sea lettuce and dulse? Utilitarianism is all well and good, but what a disaster for Scotland if we put the little but crucially important things to be at the back of our minds just for the sake of being first? Surely it is the taking part that is important. Scotland should not be proud that it is leading the way in such a mindless vision for future energy. A very wise old saying is that Rome was not built in a day. We have no need to rush into something that could be detrimental, much better to take our time and guarantee security of energy and marine life. We all know what happened to the headstrong hare, who dashed about like a lunatic only to be overtaken by the slow, steady, sensible and wise tortoise. Rather than lead the way in marine energy technology, Scotland should take a step back and consider all the implications of their big plans. I beg you to oppose the motion. Thank you very much, Charlson. We are now going to move on to the summations. Again, no points of information. I am going to call on the third propositions speaker to sum up their case from Lucy Mack. Ladies, gentlemen, Madam Chairman and fellow debaters, my name is Amy Anderson. Most people right now would tell you how this is so big-headed, but ladies and gentlemen, let's be real. If you were running a race and you suddenly had a quarter of the race left to go, would you suddenly think, I'm nearly finished, but first I'll go make a cup of tea, a Nutella and peanut butter sandwich, half a bath and all my brothers for a while and continue this later. If I have, I would be so happy with myself thinking outside the race, but first I'll probably find out how to stop my game face, which is not a pretty sight. That brings me to my point. Why should Scotland go make a Nutella and peanut butter sandwich when we can finish the race and just to clarify that the Nutella and peanut butter sandwich is representing nothing? There may or may not be more references to this. Now for some points of rebuttal. Dolphins are alarmed by the sound of underwater turbines, so it's unlikely that dolphins and other marine animals will die. The technology is a good idea, you believe not. Though you may say, it's all great, we are opening up jobs not only for Scotland but also for the rest of the world. It's predictable, reliable and suited for our country. Can we go back to the basics? This motion means to continue to be the forefront of marine energy as energy from the sea. The oceans hold enormous quantities of potential energy that can be developed with very low greenhouse gas emissions. The sea can be used to generate electricity in three different ways, tidal turbines, tidal barrages and wave power devices. Tidal turbines work like underwater windmills. Barrages, such as hydroelectric dams, are only built in the water and wave power devices harness the up-and-down movement of the sea. Scotland has the largest and most advanced industry of marine energy. We are leading the way with companies such as EMEC, based in Edinburgh and with stations in various places, including Orkney. There is huge potential and the Scottish Government recognises it and wants to take full advantage of marine energies. Around 10 per cent of Europe's total wave resource flows and seas surrounding the highlands and islands of Scotland. Scotland, as a nation, is strong and smart enough to know an amazing opportunity when we see one, and this, my friends, is one in a million. The Government states that it will continue to support local employment for marine energy technologies. Renewables, in general, open up huge employment opportunities and, for Scotland marine technologies, play a great part. Already, the marine industry has opened up so many jobs for the Scottish population and still has the potential to provide huge economic benefit. Scotland is home to the most advanced wave and tidal technology developers in the world. Those are the coastlines around Shetland, Orkney and the Outer Hebrides. Those places have some of the best natural resources in the world. Ladies and gentlemen, my colleagues have stated that there are many benefits that come with marine technology, such as reliability and predictability. The tide will only stop when there is no moon. The Scottish Government estimates that Scotland's wave resources at 1.4 gigawatts and tidal at 7.5 gigawatts can power up to 2 million houses per year in Scotland. The Scottish Government believes that wave and tidal energy will make an important contribution towards meeting our future demand for electricity. The Scottish Government is proud of the progress that we have already made as a country with marine technologies. The Scottish Wildlife Trust is setting up netting to protect marine animals so that they will not be harmed. We do not have much money and marine power can help us by giving us an industry so that we can boost our economy and help those less fortunate. Scotland needs to continue to be in the forefront of marine technology, not for show, not to be first and not for something to throw back, but to become a peaceful, utopian nation with no worries of how to cook dinner, how to occupy my brother so that he does not use me as a football or that I can play on my electric piano. We need to become a harmonic nation and this is the start of a brilliant adventure that we need to continue to lead. Thank you. Thank you very much for that summation. Finally, I am going to call on the third opposition speaker to sum up and close this debate from Charleston. Madam Chair, judges, fellow debaters, ladies and gentlemen, as my colleagues, Ms Carmichael and Ms Morris have, I am sure to convince you that Scotland should not continue to lead the way in marine energy technology.  Scotland continues with its marine energy plans at such a great next speed. We have forged forward without regard for anything other than the profit in the past. I will lead in the way in marine energy and will most likely have the same effect as Scotland's quest for innovation did 200 years ago. In the poem, the line is in revisiting the Scottish river. Poet Thomas Campbell writes about the loss of the natural beauty of the Clyde river bank due to a surge in industry in the 19th century. His poem includes the words and they call this improvement to have changed my native Clyde. It's once romantic shore where nature's face is banished and estranged and heaven reflected in thy wave no more. Imagine if this is a picture of the coastline in years to come. Leading the way towards a green future is all well and good, but not if we also lead to a future that has no concern for natural habitat or the purposes of its population. Now I must refute some of the proposition's misguided ideas. Ms Johnson, you said that there are new plans in appending birth, but there are already acute shortages of jobs and that hasn't helped. The proposition has also said that we can find somewhere else to fish. Yes, we could, but the quality and the quantity of the fish and crustaceans will fall dramatically. As you can see, leading the way in marine energy technology is obviously not the right path for Scotland. As my colleague Ms Carmichael told you, the ever-changing ideas that developers have about marine technology indicate that there is very much in its infancy. The differing advice from experts about which systems for wave and tidal capture are the most efficient suggests that there is a long way to go before any one system can produce the 64 gigawatt worldwide target that the developers of the oyster are hoping for. As Ms Carmichael said, the present oyster 800 is to be replaced with a generation 2 device. The cables needed to install the devices into the national grid will cost Scotland millions. So it seems that Scotland is leading the way in a trial and error project that I'll constantly need updating and get nowhere near the planet's sky targets that have been set. Surely it will be much more sensible to wait until the system that everyone agrees is the best and most efficient in capturing wave and tidal energy. Ms Morris spoke about the dangers to Scotland's marine life and certainly the oyster 800 proves her point. The machine causes great disruption to the seabed, produces noise pollution and disturbs marine in onshore wildlife, underwater support and electromagnetic fields, alternate environments and migratory patterns. Until we are sure that marine life will not suffer, we should not be rushing into things. Ms Carmichael also informed us of other countries that are carrying out massive tests and developments in marine energy technology. We have already heard about China's massive investments. As well as this, South Africa, Canada and Costa Rica, among many others, are developing marine technology. Scotland should be welcoming new ideas and expertise, not grasping on the labels such as the Saudi Arabia of tidal powers and leaders in marine energy. We need to have secure source, not feel the need to win a race. Scots are known as being canny and somewhat tight with their cast, so why we're not living up to our reputation when it comes to renewables? We should be looking at renewables the same way we seem to be viewing the World Cup. We are biding our time, waiting for the right moment. We are watching out for the successes and failures of others and learning from their mistakes. Once you have learned enough, we can forge on to the world stage, score the winning goal and hold the trophy high. There is nothing wrong with taking a step back and assessing the situation. If we are not leading the way, we can learn from other mistakes and ensure that Scotland has a bright, green, secure source of energy from its amazing marine resources. Ladies and gentlemen, judges, we have made our argument firm and convincing, and I ask you to join us in opposing the motion. Thank you to all our speakers, and our second debate has now closed. I think that you'll all agree that Lost in Mouth and Charleston had a very convincing debate there, so if we can just assure appreciation. Thank you Lost in Mouth and Charleston. We now have a five to ten minute window where I'm going to invite Portree High School and Hermitage to assume your positions, ready for the third debate, and we'll have just a short hand over time.


So you guys know that I love playing around with kiosks everywhere I go and in my county Collier County They love using iPads at their parks and libraries and although they're fairly locked down I found something neat at the library today if you go to library they have iPads set up for surveys and you can't get to the address bar in the browser But if you were to scroll down to the bottom of the survey the company that Created the survey was nice enough to put a link to their website at the bottom of the page Which also at the bottom of that page? Luckily has a link to all their social media including YouTube So I can use that to get to YouTube and at YouTube I can type in films by Chris comm from there I can get to my account and from there I can click on one of my videos and all my videos in the description is a link to my website and from there I can go down to the game section and theoretically play video games or access anything on my website through this little kiosk


I can get the car where it says he wants a good drive. Oh, oh! Oh! Rick! I'm dead! Thank you! For all your NRG innovation product needs, make sure you check out driveenerg.com. That's D-R-I-V-E-N-R-G.com. What's up, everybody? I'm EvilRabbit here on Pourza Horizon 4. Sitting behind that wood board is my first drift build. Of the game, not using the FD car.  Probably one of my favorite cars I used to use in Horizon 3. It is the S13 Wide Body Full Rocket Bunny. On those deep dish fours of wheels. We're here today to get a little bit sideways. Test the wheel settings in a built drift car. Not an FD car with the super angle mod with just drift suspension drift car. So we're going to get this car sideways and have a little fun with it. Of course, we're going to get the wheel cam turned on. And we are rocking our G920 with our wheel settings from previous video. If you didn't check that out, make sure you check the video from previous episode to check out the wheel settings and what I'm using right now. So we're going to get into the car and we're going to send it. And we're going to have a little fun with it today. Taking down our own fences. But I mean, it's okay. It's our own fences. Like I said, this S13 is a fully built S13 with on sport tires. We are rocking the stock motor, but fully built. It's roughly 580 some horsepower. And we're just going to send it. It is a little wet, but we're going to send it anyways. I thought that turn was a lot sooner than it was. So first impressions of how the wheel feels. It feels pretty good with this car. I feel like the actual built drift cars feel a lot better than say the FD cars on the wheel. I don't know if it just has to do something with the very dramatic steering angle and stuff like that. So what we're going to do is we're actually just going to hop to the festival. And we're going to go from the festival to the donut section and then up the hill to the mountain section and get some drifting going on. Have a little fun with it. I hope you guys enjoyed the wheel spin episode last episode. Like I said, if you guys want to know the wheel settings I've been using, make sure you guys check out the previous video. I will leave the link in the description box below for last episodes with I go into my wheel settings. So we did get out of the winter season. If you remember last episode, we were in the winter season. We are in spring season now. I did do some racing to get out of winter to get to spring. So now we are going to go rip this car today for basically the first drift. First actual drift here on Forza Horizon 4. So of course we're going to head to the little donut section, which is actually kind of cool that it's in the game. And we have this little donut section, but we're going to try and rip the outside of it. There we go. Right there nice and smooth. I should have stayed on throughout a little bit more. So the wheel back, cut the inside of there, just a tap on that. So like I said, this is a S13 around just under 600 horsepower. So we are going to send our way up to the mountain. If I can remember which way the mountain is. I believe I just have to turn around. I do. I got to turn around. The tow game mountain section is probably going to be one of the biggest drift sections in the game. It's got a lot of nice S-E turns, but there's also a lot of nice other sections that... Thanks man. Staying nice car as he flies by. So there's a lot of other nice sections in the game, but okay. People are using the chat system, which is kind of cool. So I figured we would just get our car up here.  And actually just get some actual drifting in. Since we haven't really gotten actual drifting in. Now I wish this was a drift zone because I know it's a drift zone from the demo. I just don't have it unlocked. And I totally over-corrected and sent my car the wrong direction from where I wanted to go. And that's the next five. So we lost our mirrors and stuff. But like I said, S-13 I will show the tune if you guys want to see and maybe build it. I mean a lot of people probably already have S-13s out. And I am anticipating the car is going to slide differently. Because like I said, I've been trying to drift the FD cars. There we go, that's better. Which I think have a little bit too much steering angle for what I'm used to. So these cars are a little bit better on just drift suspension. It's a lot smoother as a particular. I can actually get, you know, decent drift and handbrake. And if you remember when I was in the Alcona Dale car. Since I pulled the U-brake it almost snapped backwards.  I bet you if I actually sat there and tuned one of the FD cars it would probably feel a lot nicer. But I am having a lot more fun in this S-13 right now. So we're going to send it back up the mountain. So the one thing is this mountain section. I wish the hairpins were a little bit shorter so you can kind of link them. I mean you can link them with a Monji in there but it makes it pretty hard to get a nice tandem in. Unless you have people that can Monji together. Handbrake that. It'll fit on the brakes, stay on throttle. Trying to use a gentle angle just to try to keep the car pointed in the right direction up the hill. That was a long handbrake grab but we're getting it. We're getting the drifting down here in Forza Horizon 4. The cars do feel a lot different because of the drift suspension than what I'm used to in Horizon 3. And the physics are a little bit changed so the cars do feel a lot better. I feel like the drifting is going to be a lot more fun in this game. I mean Horizon 3 was good but it was a very arcadey. This has somewhat of a sim arcade feel. So it's definitely nice to have that little bit of a difference. I probably should have been in a different gear. So I am fighting the wheel a little bit because I feel like my settings are slightly off. So I think we're going to go in and change our settings up a little bit. And I think we might be rocking a little bit too low tire pressure. Gearing is okay, alignment. I feel like we're going to knock this down a little bit and bump that caster back up. And everything else will leave the same. And we will try and send it now. So if you guys have the game and you're enjoying drifting, what's your favorite drift spot? Because I haven't explored the map a lot yet so there's still a lot of parts of the track that I haven't explored yet. So I know there's probably a lot of cool drift spots that I haven't even gotten to yet. I think I got in my way. So we're just here trying to have a little fun get sideways in our S13. There we go. That's better. I don't want to hit that, you know, Land Rover or whatever that is right there. So drifting is definitely different but it feels good. I mean on a wheel the settings feel pretty good. There is that little bit of a hard feel on transitions but I think that has something to do with settings. There we go. So I'm going to try and not hit the wall. So I'm going to try and fine tune this S13 a little bit because it is probably my favorite drift car. If you guys have followed the channel you know I've been rocking S13s for a very long time. There we go. Now we're getting it. Can we link these? Nope. That's going to be too much. The wheel has a bit of a stiff spin back. I think it has something to do with the wheel settings in a sense. I may have to turn some things down because I've never really gotten a chance to send the car like purposely in drifting. Don't hit that. So today was the first test for that. So we're going to rip it this way. I feel like we're going to do a nice little fourth gear rip. I tried to try to stretch it out with the brakes but it didn't work out how I planned. So I am getting a little bit of understeer on the car. So a little bit of fine tuning. The tuning is not exact like it would be for say a 4's horizon 3 or 7. So the tuning is going to be a little bit different in these games. So it's just a matter of figuring out what tuning works best. We're going to rip this drift zone now. I was going to rip the e-brake but it's a side knot too. Those walls really do stop you. So we're going to try and rip this drift zone. We've ripped it before and we have gotten three stars on it but I feel like we should rip this a little bit more. So Hamster and I tried to get a little mountain tandem session going earlier. There were some funny moments with that. We threw that too much. So we'll end this episode off. I'll leave you guys with some of the clips from when Hamster and I had a little bit of a mountain incident earlier in the day. So I hope you guys enjoyed just a little glimpse into drifting. We will be getting more into the gameplay as well as getting more tandems and stuff and doing Game of Drift and stuff here on Horizon 4. But today was just a build a car, get into it, get a little sideways, have a little fun and basically test the wheel settings that I've set up from last episode to see if they feel good on a drift car which they do feel good. Are they perfect? I feel like they're okay. Could I make some fine tuning? Probably make a little bit of fine adjustments. So we did get $61,000 on this drift zone in our previous time. So as you guys know, you guys can follow me on Facebook, Twitch, Twitter and Instagram. All that's found in the description box below. I will be doing some more live streaming on Twitch as well here in the near future. So make sure you guys follow me on all those platforms. Make sure you comment on the videos if you want to have anything you'd like to comment on there. I'm very adamant about responding to you guys' comments. And do tap that like button and hit the bell notifications if you want to get the videos as they come out. So as always you guys know you can follow me on Facebook, Twitch, Twitter and Instagram. All that's found in the description box below. So until next time, thank you guys for watching. I'm EvilRabbit and I will see you guys next time. Oh my god. That's what happens when we get too close to doors and I door tap him and he goes off the edge of the mountain because we're on the edge.  Clearly disappeared on my screen. Dude this is so cool. The only damage I have is clearly on my right side door is caved in. That's awesome. Alright send it. Alright you're not going to push me off the mountain this time? Well I can't.  I don't know. Damage in this thing is awesome. But I actually don't have a drip in the engine. Not very good but I'm actually a little dripped now. I mean you gotta start somewhere. The one thing I wish for is that I'm going to tag that front bumper. Oh I just pulled in at Nicole LZ with Taylor Ray's car in Japan. The one thing that is very noticeable is that you're very twitchy online. I noticed that. You're going to follow me now so I don't knock you off the mountain.  There we go. What happened?


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Welcome everyone. This is Jenkins documentation office hours. It's the first day of February 2021 Let's look at the agenda And here's what I've got for today as possible topics. So a Fixed for the meeting link in the calendar that I'll take care of later Jenkins contributor summit Tributor summit docs preparation track We keep migration plan and pull request progress and Encouraging new contributors And I would even change. Yeah, so any other topics you'd like to put on the agenda No, and I don't have anything on that. I don't know what's happened to our diversity people. They're not responding. So Back to that. I will ping them. So Kristen will to coach I know everybody's a critic. That's great Hello Jonathan Jonathan Hello, I'm back Are you guys? That's great. Thank you. Good to see you Good to see you too. Oh You said February and it is February exactly. I'm a man of work Yeah, but if you showed up on the last day of the month, you would still be a person of your word and that's you know How things often go? Well, it's Everything goes well. So now I'm obviously work for a company in Canada. So my plans just work ever too well as planet A new job or an additional job? Yeah, a new job. I just yeah I just stay back to put all my energy in that plan. So everything goes as planet Oh Relations Yeah, thank you Very very good Alright, so topic so we've got we've got Jonathan This is one that's a great one for you because we're coming We're approaching a an event that we would love to have you and Vlad and and Meg all involved in It's the Jenkins contributors summit Every two every year as part of the free and open source conference in Belgium We would hold the Jenkins contributor summit And we would do it in person there at the at the event so that everyone could get together in a room But this year that event is virtual Therefore we've decided to take the contributor summit and make it virtual as well And we're going to change how how it's done from A single day try to gather everybody together to a series of a starter and End and then tracks in between the start and the end that focus on specific topics So we're going to do day one where Oleg Manashev and others will present Present the various results how the Jenkins project is doing what it's done so far in the last year or so and highlight Topics of interest so for instance the Docs SIG will have about a five-minute presentation there Then we'll schedule a bunch of public sunk sessions within the within the next about 48 hours That will be at whatever times work for the contributors to talk about the topic that they want to address So sub teams so the Docs track is one that's on my mind and I put it together. I proposed it like this with a Topics including helping people get started contributor onboarding. What would it take to add site search? improvements to the doc generator and how to get more improvements How we do content review wiki migration plan pull request progress and this last one documentation roadmap, so Let's do it one more which have been discussed last week and two weeks ago is a documentation inventory and rework proposal based on the inventory So what what this one is? a Proposal that here will go back here to this document to look at it. It's a proposal. We discussed last week with with Megan with with actually with Megan then with Kristen Whetstone and Zina of Abu Bakar that what we'd like to do is look at the current content on www.jankins.io and wiki.jankins.io and Use that to assemble a list of topics that are available and try to slot the topics into places in the books So it's basically do more of what you had done for us for hacktoberfest That kind of technique or we say let's look at every page. That's out there. We may not have a capacity yet to to publish that page to to do the rework for it But that page if we publish it would be long here It would be long here and the idea is as a group We agree. Oh, these are the sort of sort of sections that belong in this document These are the the general ideas that might be inside that section We discuss and and sort of disagree adds necessary dispute with each other I think it should be this no I think it should be that so that we get a good Framework into which into which we all agree. Oh, these topics belong here, but these belong over here and And that way we get Okay Now we've got a plan that says when the material arrives for this we put it here when it arrives for this it goes here and And so this was a an exercise that That the parties that we were discussing with seemed very interested in hey, yes, we could We could do that and that would give us a chance to for instance correct What I had initially thought the original creators of the documentation. It said, let's do one book Like the freest free BSD handbook and about two years ago I started thinking oh, we should change it to two books user and admin But now I'm back to no no the original technique was really the right way to do it because I don't know how you Decide which thing is user in which is admin And and so now Meg noted that we might choose pipeline authoring as an entirely separate volume because it's a very different activity clearly distinct compared to compared to User work or admin work or UI work and like yeah, you know that that would be viable So the the thought was we'll use these docs office hours and the contributor Summit to review and discuss this tentative outline. So right now. I've got the action item to to begin the assembly of this of This this outline the assembly and I assume what we would do with it Is all assembled in a Google doc with one one line per topic link to the reference to the reference material for that topic and then we'll use then we'll use discussion and and Think about it Decide how to change that document how to change the location Now is it actually Document probably is the wrong way Maybe we really do want to Google sheet here because we need to know where it came from and where it's going So there's more data about this than just would fit into okay, so yeah, right I'm already saying if it should be like we had before right where it came from here. It goes to here Why don't we say I'm current material rather than reference That's gonna be ambiguous because there is reference doc versus guide doc. Oh, okay to Location of the material. Yeah, that works that better. Yes Mm-hmm. Yeah, so it is this is placing material well before it's converted Gives us gives us a destination And and gives us a a Chance to because we then have a tabular we have a chance to prioritize Which things we think are more useful topics Based on user interest So as an example To go back to Meg's Meg's point about the pipeline authoring pipeline authoring examples Continue to be a major request from users This plug-in doesn't have Examples this plug-in doesn't have examples could you give me more examples of how this works? and those Examples actually have to be written Let's be placed inside the plug-in source code at least in the way things are currently done right now So when we look at the online feedback form, let's let's let me grab the docs feedback Just because you I think you need to see this the time to and I I Shake my head some of the words that are set here are really kind of kind of harsh So don't don't be offended by the harshness of some of the things people say here about Hey, you're you're a terrible human being for not having written this documentation, but ah Here we go a brand new one. So pipeline build step Just got feedback today. No example. No weight default value Now a comment here. All right. So available arguments for each step of CMake builder Hey, what are the arguments of? Let's see Yeah, so here's one more on how do you use HTTP request and each of these give me an example is is That same caliber of awkward describe what only if successful really means and and Etc. Etc. So It's not enough, but do we have automated tests for all of the steps in all Only only if the pipeline author wrote those automated tests and so I mean the steps themselves Yeah, yeah, that's and that's why I'm saying the the only test of automated the only testing of Pipeline steps is done typically by plug-in authors who would then include those tests in their plug-in So that's another good topic Because because well what I was gonna say is it's not necessarily the best example But if you have nothing else if you put the code that you're using to test It gives something Right, right pipeline pipeline tests would be good examples to to Site in documentation If they're if when they exist maybe unit tests for the step, right? Have I got the terminology, right? If you do. Yeah, so for example Here I can bring up one that actually has some Here is a plug-in that I've been working on and You look at its test there are things here where it says Let's see if I can find some come on tests. Here we go things like this So here are pieces of the test automation that the get plug-in uses it has All sorts of sample samples from the get plug-in steps that can be used Okay, and and now So the idea is create a entire section and the week for just talk about pipelines That's that's one of the one of the and that's one of the ideas is should we have a Dedicated section that is all about offering pipelines and and it could be part of a single volume or a Dedicated volume all on its own either would be Okay, because you talk about add the documentation pipeline documentation inside the plug-in stops right, so There is a link in each repository pointing to To our week or we just duplicate the content It's it's not even that we duplicate it in the case of plugins We actually have to write the we don't write the instructions in the in the Jenkins Iosite at all we write them in the plug-in site in the plug-in github repositories And then there's a program that extracts that documentation. Oh Places it into the into the documentation site. So so this site if we do pipeline steps here Pipeline steps this page and it's a very very long page is Generated from a program that reads pipeline source code So if we look at This pipeline nodes and processes is a single plug-in that provides these six or seven steps and All this text is taken right from inside the plug-in source code Okay, and that section we have just to talk about tutorials Will be extinguished or will be a bullet I you have tutorials about To a specific language program as for example, ruby btp Java and others I think those would continue I would I think we would retain the tutorials and keep them because we've recently had more additions to the tutorials We just recently had IBM submitted a thing on how to do Jenkins on IBM cloud Vlad submitted how to do Jenkins on Google cloud And and so we've we've had new tutorials. So I would suspect we'll keep tutorials as a topic And then comes the ugly question of the structure of the pipeline reference pages Like that when you look at adding examples, it's gonna make I mean, it's already ugly It's hard to find stuff and when that's a good one to look at because it's got a whole lot of stuff We start adding examples that's going to become even harder to read but the basic pipeline Reference page these things need to be broken out into real reference pages or formatted in some way that I can find stuff Good point. So let there was I made a a feeble attempt to create Something for here. Let's let's look at let's look at a different page and And I'll show you the feeble attempt I made for one keyword Trying to trying to give more More opening material on the thing before getting into examples. So so the git plug-in actually has a Whole bunch of okay here are different things about the about how the step works And then a series of examples intentionally Stated as examples But This was this was an awful lot of work to construct these and I'm not sure this is the best place to do it, but but it It was a place that I had It's a logical place to do it I mean from a pure writing standpoint it'd be nice to pull it off in a tutorial But this is where because the normal thing is you're gonna read a tutorial once or twice to get the big picture And then you're gonna be in the reference materials all the time now Does it get just have the one step for it it? It has one step and then it has the more important piece is the thing called the checkout step right and the checkout step is Let's see. Yeah, so the checkout step Really should be linked here and if I if I as I look at it It's it's actually not so the checkout step and the checkout step is terrifying If we look at the checkout step on these pages You're going to have to wait patiently while the page loads because it is so large just a minute I've got to show it to you Because it highlights just alright, so I find SCM step has one step. I'm gonna click it Now we're going to wait. Alright, it has loaded the page notice How many different implementations of checkout there are and each of them is a valid implementation? So you see this now if I expand get SCM This one is the description of all the things related to the get plug-in and it's got an enormous amount of Options and settings and that's just one of these things that I've expanded Very if I expand them all this page is is just huge So certainly there is lots to improve In in this particular page checkout checkout should be the most popular one of the most popular pages there is but its content is is Quite a struggle to manage because of something. You know if you want to do subversion here's subversion If you want to do bitkeeper here's bitkeeper or Bazaar or or dimensions from CA technologies I mean each of each of these SCMs has their own subsection on this But it's hard to navigate this thing at the top and then there's no discussion that they had that says Find the SCM that you you know and look on and click on that That's not there because what I was gonna say back to yours was like I mean what you've got there It's not it's actually not bad. I kind of like it, but what I'm thinking of is if you had four steps for that plug-in You'd get buried in the first one, and it's like but you're looking for one of the other three, right? exactly Which yes, so I keep I don't know I keep coming back to man pages in my head It may just be that I did man pages for too long that I see the whole world through man pages but That sort of structure, you know not We don't have to go How to generate them how to how to how to make them more usable Make them more usable How to make them actually there's another one that's a good good maybe a good alignment with this one More yeah Is rest api Doc generation Because we have a Google summer of code project That's proposing to write the program to do extraction of the Jenkins REST API But but The student that's that's preparing for to set submit a proposal for that has had questions and Bumps and bruises along the way because right now we have no document. We have Only the online documentation. That's inside Jenkins itself. No separate documentation on the rest API Is that true for CLI as well? That's a good another good question I respect And open API spec So I think the CLI documentation is available and I think if we look here So let's go Jenkins CLI So here's a at least a page dedicated to it Jonathan actually I think had contributed a significant portion of this page if I remember right Jonathan Wasn't this one of the early pages you had worked on? Yeah, I guess loss. Yes loss. It's them that my pattern for takes questions. Oh nice nice So so so we've got the CLI What we what we and even even there a CLI has Has this interesting behavior that if I If I look at it like this It generates the commands dynamically based on my install set of plugins Right that I don't think dashboard right and I don't know that we tell anybody that hey the first place You should refer is inside your own Jenkins installation So so this is this is equivalent roughly equivalent to the pipeline syntax page Now if I want to know how to enable a plug-in or delete a build or right so Yeah, I think we refer to this but I don't remember where but Installation or after installation you can find reference to this page, but I don't say call where exactly Okay We actually need a whole section that pulls together everything on Administering Jenkins without the UI another session Yeah, and that's that's another right administering Jenkins as code right right without the UI That's code and there are things like Configuration is code plug-in right there's the job ESL plug-in there are stored XML files in a In a actually we should put it this way in the Jenkins REST API right Jenkins CLI tool And Stored XML files in a give repository Mark in all these years work with Jenkins and you already have or or get the information about what is the most Common cases in using Janks for example to With that with that information we can just work samples by that on the user experience So for example, we can use two case for just Write about it and give instructions about the most common uses in Jenkins Good question. Yeah, so we have that information in some studio or Farms or something like that. We have Let's let's take it this way what we what I see reports of periodically is one of the most frequently accessed pages Jonathan, I think what you're asking is how do we prioritize which which place we should focus first? Is that what you're asking or? Not pages users because we are writing for them. So for example We we know the most important for simple it's pipelines But which part of pipelines are more important? We can use page we can use page as reference because it's missing content there or it's just a pulverize inside the week So we need some user feedback Hopefully just saying look this part. It's important of for example We have partners and some events in some places then just Can't share the case of use for Jenkins So for example our pipeline here just work running sonar plug-in running Test this and integrations and access github and pull and push everything go from there into there So with that information, we can just put our focus to construct that More available user experience definitely, but we need to be careful because for instance We know that last I heard something like 54 percent of the jobs running in the Jenkins will be freestyle But we don't get called on but I think they're old stuff from people who've been doing them forever They're not looking for documentation on how to do freestyle jobs whereas pipelines are new So so we go for that and we also there's there's always going to be a split I'm going to think that novices most novices in a small installation are going to do most of their admin initially from the GUI But as the installation gets bigger and they get more sophisticated And if they aren't some people are just love a GUI and we'll put up with anything But they're going to want to get into the command line and they're going to want to automate and script it So there's some and for some of these there is a split. I mean within that there's prioritization to You know different But okay, but it would be good to take a slice at some of that It's not I don't think we can come up yet with an algorithm that makes it obvious that okay for this data This is higher priority than that but That's so so well Jonathan to give some I think Let's see. I let's see if I can try with some possible data sources and let's let me test with you to see if You think those data sources would be informative towards you the question. Did I get the questions correct? How do how do we prioritize where to focus our efforts first? Yeah in pipeline school Nothing so not be Yes, I Okay, so simply imagine example for sample If I'm just using Jenkins the first time. So I will just build small Process using freestyle pipelines, but what kind of process? So for example the first Time we just arrived in Jenkins wiki where you go if you are a fist user you are first company user about Jenkins So just for example, you can offer them a two essence. Look if your company are using Janks of their first time Start to just merging your brains for example, or just check out your brains Okay, so step by step go and involve your process moving your manual Manual process to Automatized process with Jenkins.  I would say I don't Freestyle is never going to go away, but if somebody who isn't used to using freestyle, there's no sense starting them with it It's ugly and it's limited If they're brand new I would throw them into blue ocean Which will hook up the the SCM for them and They can do a basic, you know build test deploy pipeline with that And use those tools and then as they get and from that they can always pop out they've got an editor within that But I think that's a good. I think it's a good starting spot And they they miss all sorts of opportunities to shoot themselves in the foot Now as soon as they figure out what they're doing there, I think they're going to get bored with the graphical Interface want to get to a command line So would you envision that as I was thinking about that focus on the user activity? I assume that might be more tutorial than reference material. Am I understanding what you're envisioning Jonathan, or could you explain a little further? so What specific you want marks place my marks the nation? So so when I think I assume this would mean a tutorial Tutorials that guide them to success Yeah, just not one tutorial a bundle of tutorial Baset on step-by-step of become more experienced when while you are using Jenkins So not a a huge tutorial just step-by-step. So start here go to here So we because we are we already have a lot of tutorials So we need just to organize them in the way J. The user just could Could keep going through the tutorials Okay, so it's I see I think what you're seeing is like tutorial segments where they might be able to drop into a segment use that segment and Succeed with a segment so things like Compiling see a C program Exactly like it like and then start Terry start telling so for some reason you just go into the history That in the day journey So let me give some examples here to test to see if I if I'm understanding what you're suggesting running unit test running tests and seeing Seeing the coverage report Let's see running static analysis And so things like check style PMD fine bugs or spot bugs and seeing the report Yeah, for simple, but just to use in the right order sujection order trajectory order Okay, I didn't understand that say it again for me using Yeah, it's exactly why you are just Right and out. It's just for which suggests for the user read in this exactly order to give more sense for you reading and Exactly I see okay, so so learning paths If we did a learning path kind of thing it would probably be Technology as the uppermost or the the let's call it language language at the at the the outermost wrapper See Ruby Python PHP Because they each have their own their own unique things and then Common life cycle steps or common activities with that language Is that is that am I describing what you're what you're envisioning Jonathan? Yeah. Yeah, it's exactly that Because so when we when I think of C or C++ it's okay compiling That with Ruby there really isn't a compiling Python. There isn't a compile phase It's mostly take it and test it run the test automation. Yeah, but it's just a small difference Okay, so for example compiling it say a one step more step in your pipeline process So if you need to you see and you need to compile your build for example Just go to there. If not, just go through in the main path Because if you we can define a template to guide the writer we can use that template for other language So we just put there some difference between them technologies for some because The same sample you give to us for example, you have compiling program language program and other are just Interpreted but for example, if you I'm just check out for github It's one process if I'm check out for SVN. It's another process, but it's the same activity just the Actors are different Okay Yeah, I think I see your point. So the idea is that if if we have The concept of hey, here's a language if we have a framework that is language Independent or at least somewhat language independent as the as the structure and then when we implement For a specific language we just follow that structure. Is that sort of what you're saying? Exactly, exactly because using this template we can a whole each vision about the entire process Everything it's the same thing just the extra actors are different. I see. Thank you. Okay. Got it So template and then we got what makes me here is there is then So we need a matrix of that as to whether you're using maven or gradle or npm or Well and see for me, that's part of that's part of that's that's actually effectively a language because Okay, maven gradle, let's see CMake I mean there there are a number of npm. Oh, yes npm, right? Absolutely. Yep There's aunt. I don't know if we want to go there, but there's aunt. There is. Yes. Okay Use it all the time Language language or build tool Right because there's golang for instance, which is both language and build tool It's certainly very popular And then there's another direction where you start out This is declarative pipeline and you go into blue ocean and you have a step that echo says here We're going to build our code And here we're going to do unit tests and here we're going to you know, etc And that but that's I mean it's like there's this You know multifaceted matrix of where you get started. That's another piece. They have to get right Point right. It's it's this is pipeline pipeline offering is is a Is a different kind of thing than these right here Here, there are probably many many people who know the language in a team The pipeline learning path is not as commonly not as well known. Yeah, so steps pipeline authoring learning path Theoretically when they come to Jenkins, they already know how to build test and deploy their c app or ruby app or python app Theoretically the problem is of course, they don't always so then we then it gets nasty, but But yeah, the current documentation does just assume that you know all that and then here's how you put it into pipeline It actually for tools you have to think about Scrooge shell script and bat too Oh, yes, right, of course ms build Yeah and each of those has I might put this order because sh and bat are Closer to being stone knives than ms build is yeah, okay But then for prioritization too When we're looking at the reference materials that need to be fixed I mean, what are they like 1700 Pipelines and god knows how many steps that results in Some of them are clearly more popular than others and some of them are have probably been dead for five years So knowing where we put our energy to get good examples and good explanations stuff So that's a that's a another that's I think of that as a different topic on a different sort of question Because I think you're right there are There's so much work that could be done in in reference material In general right so pipeline steps for instance Are the most frequent most frequent requested most most frequent ask for For examples Right. Hey, give me an example of this, right? Clear descriptions of arguments Etc And but clearly some steps need that more than others is what I'm so yeah the commonality was how do we prioritize Yeah, and I think That was where I was initially thinking We could refer to Gavin Morgan's Report of most access plugin pages Great as one as one data point It's not the total answer But it is is is one the other we could we could ask for and I suspect it's in the log somewhere asked for The hit counts or other page statistics For Jenkins for Jenkins.io pages To see hey, which one are they looking at and if we get lots of hits on the github solutions page We should strengthen it if we get very few and we get a lot on installing on kubernetes. We should improve that And then there's the stuff we don't have if we had a good search engine We could track the search strings that were applied that didn't get a good hit Oh, yes. Okay. That's because there is something I mean once I you know for anything I work with it. I get to know this reference page is pretty good So I go there all the time, but I go there because it's good There's something else that I really don't understand, but I've looked there's nothing written about it So I have nothing to hit to for statistics Right. Yeah. Yes. Okay Well, just I just thought about when we were talking about reference materials we had somewhere link to the Priorities in contributing to plugins We have somewhere this link where which said which plugins are Requiring some contributors and don't have maintainers something like this And in general when we're talking about examples my goal is To have something similar to W3 schools when they provide some examples But at the same time in separate window iframe or whatever they organize these days They allow a user who is reading this to try their own version of Of Whatever topic is this Or in this little ways or whatever they are And we have somewhere I guess related to declarative Syntax inside our documentation, but not much allowing user the reader of our documentation to try on their own how It will be implemented. So I guess It's requires some thinking about how to organize and this would be Ideal, of course. I'm not sure if it is achievable at all But I allow a user for instance talking about A lot of pipelines create their own pipeline of freestyle job and Go and see what happens Yeah, well Just just a thought but Jonathan wanted to say something Go ahead, Jonathan Yeah, for example, we talk about this in the past, but I just Given and bring back the topic again. There isn't any chance we we just Start to use for example, Algolia for our page just for improved our Our user experience when searching searching about the topics So for example, I'll go to use a AI AI intelligence just to map all your documentation All three projects around the world are using algorithm in this moment. So for example, I put the link in the Chat so you can just access there We can a free plan to use but for of course, it's a small plan for us. So we need to Find some partners to Just buy to us some for example plan just to use Algolia in our website So there is for example pricing there we we can use more than 1000 Search for requests for free, but it's not And not for us for example. So we need to find a for example Some institution to just to I don't know their work in English to Guarantee the servers for us Sponsors exactly There is some way just to find sponsors to use that engine or other similar Because we lift engine search inside our page that the users can just find what they are looking for Right, right. Very good. So the yeah because to us is simple because we already know our own documentation So we just use cultural f and just shares for things but the Users their company when they arrive in our site, they have no idea. Where is Jenkins pipeline? Where is that tutorial about php or about Java? Where is that tutorial about maven? They have no idea So we need a search engine Yeah, a good good. So as an example that further supports what you've noted there Oleg did a prototype search for Jenkins for Jenkins.io Using elastic search However, as the same exact challenge that I Al Golea does is that elastic is only willing to donate Their search services To what I think he said it was nonprofits and they weren't clear that They were not clear that Jenkins was a nonprofit They could certainly is a nonprofit, but we're not a registered nonprofit in the us legal sense Really at least as far as I know we're not I I didn't know And so it's I don't know what the What the the limitations were there, but but elastic was one That but whoever it is Someplace has to host that search engine, right? There is there is some execution of code there and that execution of code has some cost Exactly And so whatever search service has some costs or For instance, I think a prototype had been done using google search. The problem with google search is if we use google search we risk that Antagonists or What might even be called competitors in get injected into the search results So I would rather not have the Jenkins documentation page Having something that suggests circle ci is a good choice for instead of Jenkins, you know, they've they've been very actively attacking Oh, you should replace your Jenkins with circle and I have no interest in our search results Giving any hint So so this the site search engine feels like another very good topic for discussion at in fact, I think I'm in it. Yeah, so for as a as part of that the government not governance the contributor summit Because I think I think it's this is a Someone may may say hey, I would like to contribute, but I don't want to write documentation This is an opportunity to write some code to contribute towards The to work the project, right? It would it would help just like the rest api generator is a help Good, exactly. And I'm quite quite sure if we use a search engine the experience Just onboarding Jenkins become better I guess, uh, I'll go it's a A good a really good option because all others projects I work on are using I'll go it so I don't know if if have a good plan for institution or It's a cheaper one. I don't know the reason but they all are using I'll go it Well, I guess in this case the proper path would be to write some kind of Jenkins plugin or I'll go there And use this plugin in our documentation for doing search Yeah, yeah, it's something like that right where it's it's a How somebody would have to do a prototype and And see how how the documentation would feel if we're using al gole as the search engine Could could our pages still continue to be the static site that it is or does something else have to change? I think it's an interesting Yeah, it's that the site they use the static sites all the documentation. I just yeah all the stacks Site split markdown. I don't know with A doc a doc files, but the user markdown Why is Jenkins not registered as a nonprofit or maybe it's the foundation cdf Yeah, that's that's a piece that I think needs more discussion. I I I didn't understand the details there and yes that What I think I do understand is a very high. I don't know how these decisions are made but For these companies when they donate stuff They get to report that as a loss on their tax. It's a contribution They get a tax break, but if we're not a registered nonprofit, they don't get that tax break I see. Okay. Yeah. So that I mean, I think it's just an administrative one Now what I don't know at the other end is what the ramifications are for cdf or Jenkins being officially a nonprofit For companies that are then using that as the base and making a profit off it I don't think that the open source stuff has been registered and maybe that we need to have a separate category which you know Don't even think about getting that to do Washington DC right now, but Yeah, don't don't know that's a it's a valid concern But it'd be a good question. It'd be interesting just to ask like Tracy You know just off the top of is it just a matter of file, you know, how would they feel about cdf being a registered nonprofit? Yeah, and because I don't know what the ramification all the ramifications are at that end But I guess one of the advantages would be that Uh contributors Jenkins the tributes can receive some well rewards From sponsors, I mean, I also Jenkins is big enough That it might be worse something to them just that the search engine box says search powered by agolia You know, that's advertising Right and and those are those are the things that we would need to discuss with The provider which one whichever one it is right if we use agolia if we use something else to see Would you sponsors because they They would be providing economic there would be economic cost to them to do it. Yeah, right Well, there's a couple ways too. I mean they could say we'll give you the salt We'll give you the you know commercial software We'll give you the professional software, but you got to find your own servers And google's our best place to go for those but I'm not sure google's going to want to sponsor something that's not using their their search. So right, right The mind boggles a good point beg All right, so we tangled web we weave So we've we've hit our hour I I would generally like to hold to an hour any other hot topics before we close Do we know anything more about the schedule the phos dim schedule like days and hours and the sort of yeah So february so this the contributor summit has now set february 23 through 25 Okay And the first session day one will be I think it was at 3 p.m. At 1500 utc on the 23rd And this one is at 15 on the 25th Okay, the other tracks we will determine dynamically at the at the Conclusion of the first session Which tracks we are going to put people on and what time they will be Okay So and and we'll keep talking in this session. I'm I'm continuing to send invitations to people to Consider joining and leading a track. And so those those conversations are ongoing All right Okay, anything else Thanks, everybody. We'll call this an end. I will do a recording. Jonathan. Great to see you flat Meg. Thanks. Good to see you again. Bye. Bye. Thank you Bye. Bye. Have a good week everybody


In hope of shedding some light on when we could expect some new information on the Pokemon Scarlet and Violet starters, I looked at the 3 past Pokemon Generations and their release schedules to see if there was a pattern between their starter Pokemon evolutions and when they were announced. Firstly I looked at Pokemon X and Y. They only revealed the second stage's evolutions before release, 29 days before the games officially dropped. Although unofficially the final evolutions were actually leaked 37 days before release. To run up to Pokemon Sun and Moon, Pokemon revealed their final stage evolutions for all of the starter Pokemon 22 days before their release.  Pokemon didn't officially announce any of the starter evolutions until a whopping 12 days after the games release. But again like before the starter line evolutions were leaked this time, 14 days before the games were officially released. We are 43 days out until Pokemon Scarlet and Violet released. Should we expect some information on the starter Pokemon soon?


Reggie Fesame's life story is fascinating. The son of immigrant parents who fled their home country because of their forbidden love, Reggie was an incredible student who made opportunities for himself that should have been impossible. A phenomenally talented businessman and a kind, open-hearted man, Reggie is now retiring from Nintendo and he leaves behind a legacy that helped shape the company and video game culture as a whole. So, in tribute to a man who has done so much to change the face of gaming, let's take a look at the story of Reggie, my body is ready, Fesame. It's a tale as old as time. Two people, separated by society and politics, fell in love and ran away together. Reginald Fesame's parents were both born to military families. The problem was, they were both on opposite sides of a fierce conflict. The island of Haiti was at the time struggling amid a dangerous era of political and military uncertainty. Reggie's mother's family were a part of the government, while his father's family were part of an opposing military. His two grandfathers served on opposing sides of the conflict. Yet in spite of this, Reggie's parents met and began to fall in love. It was clear that their forbidden romance was not only taboo, but incredibly dangerous. There was no way their families would understand, and if they were found out, they could end up suffering the full force of both opposing armies. So, they made the decision to run away together. They emigrated the United States to New York, far away from the conflict in Haiti. They gave away their old lives, their friends, and their family, and started afresh in a new country. This meant a lot of change. It meant learning English, and it meant taking on new jobs. Reggie's mother got a job in retail, which she continued for the rest of her working life, eventually becoming the lead salesperson for a fancy jewelry store. His father became a machinist, and together, they started their little family. As a young boy living in the Bronx, Reggie was the only person of colour in his class at school. His family weren't poor, but they were never particularly rich either, and he certainly felt the cultural distance between himself and his peers. But Reggie was smart. He loved learning, especially science. When he was 12 years old, he was buying and studying university-level chemistry textbooks. At some point as he got older, though, Reggie decided that he didn't want to pursue a career in chemistry. While he'd once imagined himself as a scientist, he eventually found himself studying business and finance. After a lot of hard work, he was at Cornell University, majoring in marketing and sales. Even here, Reggie pushed himself and achieved more than anyone could have expected. As an undergraduate, he was accepted to a very prestigious brand management program with Procter & Gamble, even though the program was designed for, and only available for, MBA candidates. Reggie was talented, hardworking, and enthusiastic, so he flourished at Procter & Gamble. His work with their food and beverages department led him to a new job in the high-up position at Pizza Hut. This was a particularly fast-paced job, and Reggie learned a lot from the speed with which the restaurant business evolved and changed. He couldn't stay still for long, as his competition was always evolving, and it was possible to see immediately whenever a new business strategy succeeded or failed. Next, Reggie moved to MTV, where he was an executive at the VH1 network in the early 2000s. This, he felt, taught him a lot about interacting with an older, 25-49 year old audience. Here, he cultivated his own sense of humour and charm as he learned about entertaining a fan base and developing a relationship with consumers that went beyond his work with food companies. Reggie did a great job at MTV, managing to turn around VH1 and save it from failure. Then, after just two years with the company, he was head-hunted to join Nintendo. Just a few months after starting his new job, Reggie made his first public appearance. E3 2004 will live in many of Nintendo's fans' memories forever. The company revealed their brand-new handheld, the Nintendo DS. Shigeru Miyamoto came out on stage brandishing a sword as crowds cheered and cried over the first trailer for what would become the Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess. Standing on the stage, an unfamiliar face announced, my name is Reggie.  Immediately, the Nintendo community had a brand new hero. Reggie became an internet sensation, and his consistent eagerness to give presentations and announcements a more theatrical twist meant he quickly earned the nickname The Reginator. But this wasn't all Reggie did for Nintendo and its fans. He was also instrumental in a dramatic shift in the people that Nintendo made games for. He pushed for greater inclusivity and diversity in Nintendo's cultural identity. Something that Reggie noted almost immediately in Nintendo was the narrow focus of the company's marketing. The company was only really aiming for teenage boys at this time. From his work at VH1, Reggie felt that there was so much more that could be done to reach a wider, more diverse audience. Girls liked video games too, Reggie argued. So did grown men and women for that matter, and older people. Nintendo had always prided itself on being a family-friendly company. So why were they only making games aimed at young boys? And so, Nintendo took on a more inclusive approach to its marketing, and even its game development. The goal was to be more like Pepsi. Unable to compete with Coca-Cola in the sales of soft drinks, Pepsi had recently diversified. They'd begun offering bottled water and other drinks that appealed to a wider variety of customers, and in doing so, they'd overtaken Coke to become a more financially successful company. Nintendo could do the same. They couldn't compete with Sony or Microsoft in making a big, expensive games console with advanced graphics. But they could be the first games company to make games aimed at older gamers. They could be the first company to include women in their marketing in a notable fashion, and make games for those who didn't want endless violence shooters. Thus, the Touch Generations brand was born. Both the Nintendo Wii and the DS were pushed as devices for everyone, and not just boys. It's worth noting that this idea wasn't Reggie's alone. Many different people at Nintendo were involved with figuring out this new direction for the company, and Reggie was just one part of defining what the new Nintendo would look like. In particular, many game designers and creators, such as Satoru Iwata and Shigeru Miyamoto, were a big part of this plan. Games like Nintendox and Braintraining were an extension of this endeavor, as was the easy-to-learn control system for both their handheld and home console systems. For the first time, female gamers saw themselves in the marketing for their favorite Nintendo titles. Older gamers, too, were finally given the respect and attention they deserved. Nintendo built on these first steps as the company moved forward. Under Reggie's guidance, the cultural idea of a Nintendo fan broadened to include people from all backgrounds and walks of life. You likely already know the rest of the story. Reggie went on to overseeing Nintendo of America for over a decade, during which time he built up a strong relationship with the company's fans. To many, Reggie is Nintendo. The two are inseparable. The strength of this recognition speaks to Reggie's talent for making people feel appreciated, valued, and recognized. Reggie listens to those who speak, and is always looking for ways to reach out to overlooked sections of the Nintendo fan base. As he leaves Nintendo for the relaxing joys of retirement, eager to spend more time with his wife and family, Reggie leaves behind a legacy of inclusivity and of making a Nintendo fan, no matter who they are, feel like they're someone special. There are two morals that can be taken from Reggie's story. The first is that hard work and ingenuity can help you achieve the seemingly impossible. Reggie's parents did the impossible by finding a way to allow their love to bloom. As a young man, Reggie did the impossible by studying hard and gaining knowledge beyond his years. It didn't matter if a career opportunity wasn't available to someone from his discipline, he achieved his goals anyway. Reggie's inventiveness and ability to think outside the box helped to transform the H1, and allowed Nintendo to compete with bigger, larger electronics companies in spite of its relatively small size. There are millions of Nintendo fans today who might never have had the chance to try these games if Reggie hadn't been so good at doing the impossible. The second moral of Reggie's story is that inclusivity matters. Reggie's time at Nintendo has been defined by his eagerness to invite anyone and everyone to play games. Perhaps this itself comes from the unique perspective he has on life, as the son of immigrant parents who had to endure so much hardship to make their family work. Be like Reggie. Reach out to other members of the gaming community with love and compassion, regardless of cultural or any other perceived differences. You never know what new friends you might make in places you've never thought to look. Because if there's one important lesson we can learn from Reggie's professional life, it's that everything is more fun when we all play together.