You still in touch with John Boat? Yeah, we still chat every once in a while. He's a good colleague, good friend, good mentor. I really enjoy working with him for him in DC. Yeah, it's a good organization. Yeah, he's a good guy. Savannah and I? Here you go, I don't see you. I can still load in once in a while. Hi Ashley. Hey guys. Hey Ashley. Hello. Hi. Hi everyone. All right see, Savannah just wanted to let you know, we revisited the definition of social, of family for the social equity subcommittee and we added domestic partner. Nice, glad you're there. And then obviously we're just the other issue we're talking about when that issue comes up later on during our social equity group. Sure. So I know Tim can be with us today. I'm going to give Ingrid another manager too and Saban is here today. The market structure subcommittee is wrapping up and he has continued to volunteer this time to help this committee and provide his perspectives and I'm so thankful for that Saban. And Chris Walsh I think should, you know, be doing something so large as Saban. I don't know if he's planning or can attend today but I'll give him another minute or two. Hi Ashley. I was just having some technical difficulties with my ear buds so it's okay. If I looked for flag. I'm not worried at all. And some really good news are Megan Howe who, you know, takes a lot of the notes for our subcommittee groups in labor right now. So we'll have this soon. Nice. Yeah we have no idea if it's a boy or a girl but I don't think it's a boy. All right well I see Ingrid's here. I'm going to go ahead and start the recording and we can get rolling down. Okay. I'm calling the compliance and enforcement subcommittee to order October 4th. I'll just do a quick roll call of those who I see present. We've got Mark Gorman, Jeannie Cranway I'll call from the NACB. Carrie, do you get here? You got it right. Ashley Reynolds, I also want to say that G always throws me off. Kyle Harris, Kyle do we have anyone else from the board in the room? We have Brent here. Thank you Director Grant. We've got Brent Knight from the Department of Labor and Lottery. We've got four members of the public. Great. And then we also have David Huber joining us and Siobhan Tritchell. Okay I think we're all set. You're great. Thank you everybody. Again for those that... I'm sorry Ingrid, I missed you tonight. Ingrid is present as well. Alright everybody, thank you so much. What I want to do is continue our conversation from last Thursday. Siobhan I'm going to send you a document quickly. First, I believe nobody has seen events from last meeting yet. I don't think that's my fault. They were sent to me on Friday. They gave me when I was sending out stuff earlier this morning. So, comment would help remind me. I don't think I sent them out right before this meeting. I doubt anybody's had time to do a good mullence over. But we can just put that on the agenda for Thursday to serve a good image of my Thursday. And today is coming Thursday. Keep myself straight. So Siobhan just to bring you up to speed. Last Thursday we started talking about conversation security. And I'm going to send you a document we heard from Jen from BS on how Massachusetts approached outdoor security. And we're talking fencing, cameras, lights, security systems. I'm going to send you that right now. I wanted to, you know, I know Bates here. I know we had a lot of questions. I know Jen's not with us anymore. But I want to continue that conversation in an indoor cultivation security and retail security. Does anybody have any thoughts? You know, from my perspective it seems as if everything's kind of pretty similar across all other jurisdictions with a legalized values market. You know, from my perspective I'm curious about alternatives. Again, like, you know, folks that are cultivating their own interest in securing their cultivation site. At what point or how overly prescriptive or prescriptive does the board need to be from requiring fencing, lights, cameras, security systems, or is there an opportunity for us to kind of recommend some stuff and require a combination of those, not all of them, looking for alternatives. Again, my thought is not being overly burdensome from a cost perspective on some of our smaller cultivator peers but recognizing that, you know, consumer safety, theft protection, so on and so forth are already the other end of the conversation. So Ashley, I see you raise your hand. I was just curious if we can look at this from a standpoint of, or the smaller cultivators talking about them specifically, possibly not requiring fencing. I know that we're having sort of different tiers for rolling out licenses and delayed so we have really the option if we want it. I wanted to also get Carrie's perspective on folks who are choosing to fence. I know he brought up last week how, you know, there kind of runs the gamut as far as like how the hemp program is working versus how people are fencing. Some are not. Some are, you know, doing much larger grows without any fencing at all. Some are using armed guards. I think you said Carrie, and, you know, from my perspective, I don't really feel that there needs to be fencing, especially for the smaller folks and I just wanted to kind of test the temperature of the rest of the committee here and see is there a will be, and if we're not going to do the test. I'll weigh in when you're ready, Ashley, I'll just have a chance to... Any other thoughts? This is Tom, Carrie, and you all can correct me if you've got a different impression, but at least from what you've seen from the research memo that we disseminated from Ashley and from what Jeff was saying, I mean, I think fencing's probably the most critical component for security. If you're going to do away with that, then I guess everything else becomes optional. I mean, it still is. I know everyone wants to equate it with him. It's still different. It's different legally. But it seems like if we're talking about security and you're making fencing optional, then I don't know if that might be... I would think it's probably a departure from what other states are doing, and my impression from what Jen was saying was in Massachusetts, we require that because you don't want people just stealing away with product in the middle of the night and there's also need some protection from wildlife as well. So I'm not saying, Ashley, that it doesn't make sense. And again, intellectually, what Kyle is raising is an issue across all the subcommittees of more regulations are giving more costs, especially for the regulators. That's the nature of what we're doing. But ultimately, it's up to the board to decide how much direction they want to give, especially small cultivators in the town. So those are the issues that we're facing. Saban, I know you needed a conversation, but I would love your perspective. Brand new, so take everything I say with a grain of salt. But, you know, certainly, we've touched on security a little bit intentionally in the Mark's Doctorate Committee and just kind of made reference to what we assume this committee is working on and or where you might end up or might not end up. But we've multiple times really mentioned when we're talking about allowing potential permitting for local farmers, who are going to be small cultivators, to also potentially have storefronts at the farm, at some sort of farm sales, and it being kind of the cannabis equivalent of when you see maple syrup available here everywhere all around Vermont, that one of the big concerns was not inviting risk to those farmers.  I don't want to be paternalistic and, you know, tell people, we're going to protect you from yourselves. But I think in the other committee, we've been on a working assumption that there would at least be a bare minimum of security because we are a little afraid of just kind of rampant issues that could come for all these folks who are, you know, it seems like the Vermont impression is that small cultivators were going to get into this or really get into this for an opportunity to do something very different from how their farms have been, etc. So, intentionally, systemically invite a large amount of risk on to them, we may not be to our fiduciary responsibility. So, I think we've been on a working assumption that fencing was a given, you know, other things like lights or cameras that all those things are, there's some balance in all of those. But it does seem to me that some sort of fencing would be a bare minimum. It's not just like, you could make a choice when you have an in-ground pool or you've got a fence that are not completely right, like you don't want the neighbor's kids to run in, unsupervised and swim, but that's your choice, what risk you're taking or not. I think this is a more serious level above that, that we, at least in the other community, were probably working under an assumption that they would at least be stopped similar to fencing or other limits like that. I mean, with the pool you're fencing in because you're worried about death. With this, you're worrying about death. You're actually less of a concern. You're not protecting somebody. You're protecting your own commodity whether that's from deer or fat. But the swimming pool you're preventing a drowning from happening on your property. So I think equating it to is doesn't happen, right? I accept that, Carrie. And that was me making up that comparison right now. You know, it's not a subject we've had before. But I think we're all worried that people besides they're not just taking the blends. They're going to show up and bring whatever. They're shotguns. I'm not actually talking about organized gangs, but other people are going to come rob your little storefront and thinking about it as a big cash box cow.  Again, this is due to me at this level of doubt. Just for the sake of clarity, I guess we started this conversation on Thursday and we weren't even thinking about it from the farm gate sale perspective, but from more of the just growing site perspective, you bring in another wrinkle, though that I know you're curious about. And we haven't gotten that far. I'm not sure I want to get ahead of myself. We could do specific recommendations or regulations around having that farm gate sale farm stand business along with your outdoor cultivation site. Maybe that's treated a little bit differently versus somebody who's strictly cultivating. I don't know. I'm trying to get a temperature read on everybody and where everybody's at. Tina, I see your hand up. Thank you. I just want to remind everybody that this is not like an agricultural product. That if anyone consumes it, it'll be fine. You know, this is a schedule one job that's federally prohibited and it consumes can have an impact on the person. So I think we have to take that into consideration as well. Where if we would lock up alcohol and have fencing around that to prevent someone to come in. So, you know, this is really how hemp and can visit different and why additional restrictions and regulations need to be put on this job. Thank you. Mark. My question is if you don't have fencing which is your first level of security are you going to get any sympathy at all from the police if you report a theft for your insurance company if you report a theft. Now, maybe that's just part of the risk you're taking with not having a theft. But those resources will be drawn on people we'll call the cops to try to get them in case they're in their problem. Thanks Mark. Ashley, is your hand still up or do you have a we'll carry it. I know that it has to your perspective and I'm thankful everybody's speaking of it. I'd like to hear your perspective, Carrie, and then Dave I would like to hear your perspective working under the assumption that we will, the board will have a formal agreement with the agency of agriculture. I want to make sure that any concerns, thoughts or perspectives you would share foods on the ground actually going to these sites I think would be extremely helpful for this committee here. Sure, and in terms of actually reiterating sort of what I spoke of last meeting and it runs again it's either out in the field or it's behind fences and really the only concern of direct theft is for two or three weeks at the end of the season. I haven't heard of any theft so far this year but certainly two or three years ago there was some reported and behind the fence are not the folks who called the police received the same level of response and sympathy same as stealing apples or some corn off off a farmer and sort of my perspective on this I read the California model that you shared last week and that was sort of outside it needs to not be seen and then I feel like it's up to the producer to decide what level of security they want. I've read your sort of different versions of licenses and the outdoor growth was averaged to be 20% of the market most of the quality cannabis is going to be grown indoor sounds like that's 80% it sounds like some there's an opportunity or an appetite to have small cultivation plots outdoors and as far as new businesses that want to get into the business I think what happens to that particular business is going to dictate what sort of security that they want or need if you're in sort of a more populist area, Chittenden County most of the hemp theft that occurred were within distance, a walking distance of a fairly large college and the stuff out among the world communities where work was not targeted and I think it really depends on where you choose to put your growth and who can see it all those options should be available fencing cameras and lighting but I also feel like it shouldn't necessarily be something that the board has to dictate we'll get to where we get to as the market evolves Ashley maybe this is a little bit too much of a drill down but for anybody who is getting a cultivation license is there going to be any sort of site like through is anybody sort of thinking about is it going to need to be some approval or is it really just going to be an application online and people can just fill it in because I think you have brought up a really good point, Carrie even just looking by county by town in Elmleur, Morseville hard way close to the left of the kingdom I mean there's so much there that seems a little bit silly I think about the grows that are happening all around Stowe or even just right down you know over in hardwood there like I mean they're massive and I don't ever hear about anybody messing in the beginning yeah you know when crops some of them are hot some of them weren't hemp at all I think there was a lot more of that I don't think that fence is a necessary answer I think that if somebody wants to get cannabis they're going to regardless of if it's an event or not regardless if it's grown in the ground or not I do think having it be sort of a way and not playing music is a really great idea but I mean like I'm a mom you guys like I'm not looking at this from a perspective it's just like this really heavy I do think safety is huge I just don't know that it's a one size fits all for what we're thinking for these smaller cultivators angry I'm just it's more of a question I'm wondering I don't know anything about insurance regulations for this type of product but wouldn't that be would that be a requirement in order to be assured does everyone have to be insured for this where does that factor in actually signal so I don't really I don't know Tom are you going to yeah okay I'm just going to say that crop insurance is not really applicable for this particular crop at this time maybe Tom you know something that I don't I would say probably the majority across the country are not insured for cultivation and you know for any other passive cannabis it's very expensive and it's hard to get you know Ashley probably talk about that more firsthand but if you can get it and you can afford it like any other business you probably should and you could and if you go through those groups then yeah I would guess that fencing your crop would be a requirement in order to obtain the insurance Mark if you're standing or yeah some by the look on your face your hand is still up okay Gary question for you just trying to respond to one of Ashley's questions or comments and yeah I think your instinct is spot on we're getting a little bit far ahead of where we currently are but when it comes I'm trying to remember the hemp program process and I know folks need to whether it's through Google Maps or some other service they need to actually show the agency of agriculture specifically where a cultivation site is as part of their application is that correct that is correct and that's a that is a USDA that's a federal requirement and we need to share that list with law enforcement so if somebody does report it they check with the agency to make sure that that is a registered hemp but yes you know if that that's now I don't know what will happen in years to come I don't know growing cannabis outdoors are going to be registered somewhere so you'll either be on the hemp list or with the control board in the future it will sort of figure out what that looks like if a cannabis outdoor road did have to be situated a certain setback from a road or from you know the eyes of the public I don't want to pull a number of thin air when it comes to trying to establish that, recognizing the farms and parcels of land look different depending where you are even in the state of Vermont I know a lot of farms situate themselves pretty close to the road or at least they did historically for the winter months because it was easy to get trucks in off those properties but I don't know where Kerry, Tom where do you think we would start in trying to if that were going to be part of you know this conversation where are we going to start in trying to pull a number you know Kyle I like this standard of not being able to see it out of sight so if you know you can see it from the road then you're putting up a fence that so folks can't see it but if you've got a spot that nobody has access to unless it's you know cross country through the woods that's a completely different scenario I guess there are those public reasons throughout the state so we would have to be careful about Ashley here I think that I agree with Kerry first of all and then I also you know we're not going to require this but here we are thinking about these cultivators the talent perhaps some of the folks from the illicit market now transitioning into this regulated market there's things that we all do those last two three weeks of before harvest occurs that is part of our own if you want to call it insurance people sleeping out in their patches people doing their own foot traffic I mean again I know these are things we're not going to be able to require but I mean these are things that we're going to be doing anyway and I think again you know really looking at it from the lens of what it takes to grow and not from a lens of this is what has worked in other states like I don't want to stand on the soapbox I do think fencing is going to be needed for certain areas of growing but I think if we could figure out a way to sort of decipher the size maybe a little bit more about this thing site I like the out of site and obviously access if it's close to being grown to a school all of that needs to be put into consideration but I just want to share just anecdotally like we're all used to that time of year and we're all used to being a little bit more diligent about our own personal surveillance and so yeah just wanted to put that out to the universe Thanks Ashley, Simone? Just saying I also support Kerry's idea of you know thinking about different circumstances you're comment earlier Kyle that maybe the way the final legs are written are yeah it's different if the field is visible from the road or not it's different if you have farm gate sales directly or you're just a cultivator I think all those are part of our smart Thanks Yvonne Dave, any thoughts from your perspective on a pretty place to start and then I'm going to try and pivot us to more of an indoor based conversation Sure Thanks for letting me comment on that I agree with whatever you're saying as well I think that I kind of want to talk about two different things now the safety for all of the staff and the talent that Ashley is mentioning but then also Kyle who had mentioned boots on the ground probably the safety of the regular as well and potential pitfalls there with certain situations I think it's probably something that Anchorage would also be thinking about with her past career so you know there are a couple things that are inherently dangerous out there dogs inherently dangerous animals, agency of agriculture definitely the inspectors do run into dogs they run into bulls they run into other very dangerous animals that do have to to be fenced off or at least made known to the regulator make sure that nobody is going to get maimed, harmed, killed those are really real problems in Vermont especially in an agricultural sort of setting another thing is the Vermont federal laws potentially armed registrants so all this sort of ties into different trainings that need to be offered to the regulator de-escalation technique trainings, we do already provide that we can have work with the Vermont State Police to provide our staff with de-escalation techniques as well as EPA officials regulators in rural agricultural states to make sure that everyone has that most up to date training when it comes to protecting the staff for the regulating entity just to make sure but the one thing I wanted to add for the other conversation was you know there probably are many many techniques to deter that and to maintain security and perhaps we think that in a best management practice there's a lot of work going on so fencing would be maybe a baseline and this is all hypothetical but maybe you have 10 other ways to keep track of everything cameras, lighting maybe some other type of perimeter security perhaps it's you know you have a policy of fencing plus 2 out of 10 of prunes other types of security and then maybe something that the team chooses on their own or works in conjunction with the pound or works in conjunction with the regulator and that may be a good smattering to see exactly what works and what doesn't work for different geographical areas different types of growing operations different types of areas and the last thing I wanted to talk about was the out of sight part of this would keep the public away from seeing what is going on at the operation and eventually could have its own pitfalls in that if someone were in trouble and this is completely out of sight there may not be somebody to come to the rescue in instances where a regulator is trapped or you know there is something dangerous going on if the public were to see or at least have some sort of light of sight and they were driving by and they said oh wow this is really something a little strange they could make that phone call I'm sure that's happened with Vermont State Police as well other local precincts where somebody has said you know something is out right I would like to make a call completely screen off an operation while maybe a fence may also may also directly relate to harming certain individuals I just wanted to say that as far as the safety boots on the ground kind of realistic statement thanks Dave we had a lot of good perspectives here with different experience I think it's a good conversation Harriet I saw your circle light up yeah I was Dave knows this first hand actually I brought him to a site that was alleged to be not growing him and when we showed up there were pitfalls on chains so good call Dave well this is what I this is what I'm hoping that we can do and I'm looking to you Tom Mark and Gina I'm trying to pull from the way Gina tries to facilitate some stuff in the social equity committee and giving people options with words on a slide every piece of paper because I think if we can kind of be presented with some options this committee can be presented with some options and see those words on those papers and I'm thinking about options meaning most prescriptive to more of I don't want to say least prescriptive but you're providing more options a suite of best practices as Dave kind of alluded to the out of site no fencing, in-site fencing model but just getting like maybe three options that we could talk about on Thursday might be helpful for folks to kind of conceptualize what we're talking about here not even necessarily thinking that we need the full regulatory type text but just bullet points on paper key takeaways, key buckets of different types of security that is typically found at an outdoor cultivation site is that something Tom and Gina you think you might be able to help me out with yeah I mean I think the concepts are there and the reference materials we disseminated last week you want that just kind of narrowed the bullet point format I think everyone would know I mean we're talking about fencing we're talking about lighting we're talking about video surveillance I'm trying to get recommendations and trying to bring this into something at the board or the subcommittee might feel comfortable you know voting on or passing to the board as a recommendation we can put that together for you David if it would be possible to speak to you from an agricultural perspective just what your regulations are for Hampton and some other so we can make it very remote-focused as well Thanks Gina, Tom I know you put together you and actually and Martin put together a lot of awesome stuff for us I didn't want to in any way that you have it but just something that is easily digestible in this type of setting for us to move on that would be very much appreciated Sure David and Kerry my understanding is that there aren't any right for ag or Hampton there aren't any security rights that exist right now right? I think Kerry would answer no but there are security requirements for the staff for the regulator I understand that side of it but I don't think we need a separate call to talk about what's already existing because it doesn't at least for Hampton Right Correct Okay, alright thank you Thanks everybody So I want to start the conversation on indoor security and cultivation security and even I think it was included in their Tom retail security too and again these resources have been fantastic as they're launching off point and hopefully you might be able to give your key takeaways to kind of engage conversation here Yeah and I just included that beginning section which does include retail as a summary because a lot of the indoor cultivations are combined with the retail stores at least here in Arizona, Nevada and out west and they're fairly similar so I mean the buckets that we're talking about mainly are again video surveillance what Jim's planning and stressed last time is limited it's access control to make sure that there's only a limited number of people that have access to the indoor cultivations so building access control systems and alarm systems again so those are the three main buckets and places like California and this is more for retail but there's actually regs about physical security or arm guards needing to be present at the facilities as well and I think that's what you're going to find when you look through those materials it's going to fall into one of those buckets Any opening questions for Tom or for the group Tom it doesn't seem like again just when we're talking about this we're not trying to reenact the wheel here it seems like other jurisdictions pretty much do things standard across the board for the most part but is that your takeaway as well? Yeah but I mean some are definitely more prescriptive in your terms in the beginning than others not everyone is going to require physical security guards like California does so it's the level to which you want to describe the regulations that you're going to impose Any thoughts I mean we can start with security guards anybody have any thoughts there I know that I just had to see you this morning so maybe we can get a better conversation on Thursday but actually I see your hands up I mean I follow a lot of cannabis news I'm pretty nerdy about it and I just don't hear about this type of thefts I don't hear about you know that level of force being needed optics or culturally you know necessary you know are those armed guards there in response to something happened again I know we try to look really hard at data we try to look at patterns but again I'm only one person in this industry but I just don't hear about any of the needs for that stuff so if anybody has heard otherwise I'd love to hear it yeah and to be clear the California regulations for physical security that's for retail that's not just if you have indoor grow oh I mean as well like in Arizona they all have security guards as well for the retail I think it's less advanced hand up first and then Dave I'd say overall no different direction but I'd agree with Abbey's with Abbey's perspective there I think that if you interpret what's the intent of the two acts that give rise to all of this it's quite clear that we're trying to create opportunity for small Vermont operations that you know it really is a unique approach to the very Vermont approach and in the market structure subcommittee we spent a lot of time trying to think about what that means from a cost perspective and that's really how we our decision of how we recommend tiering pricing for licenses for different sizes because we don't want to be overly burdensome financially on the smallest growers when it seems what's the intent is to empower all these new call whatever you want small businesses small organizations small whatever X, Y, or Z so I'd agree that especially from a cultivation side if you started talking about security guards that's such a cost prohibitive factor that almost out undone everything else that's going on the other levels it makes more conceptual sense to me on a retail sense but I would still think that that should be optional not required you know I think that Vermont envisions a lot of small main street on a small town small shops not just a shop in Burlington it's going to be a mega XYZ and so you know I think again that same cost burden perspective is going to be cost prohibitive for a small organization and they also need to have security guards on hand and you know I personally come from the alcohol industry especially from a regulatory side I would think of this more like bouncers at a bar you know the bar when they build themselves to set up and they know the area they're in and the client are catering to and they're going to choose whether they have a bouncer or not and maybe a bar that caters to the college kids is going to have a bouncer or maybe they'll only have it on Friday or Saturday nights and you know a bar that's a wine bar is probably not going to have a bouncer and or in a location or XYZ I think all of those are fair considerations to allow the business to decide what's appropriate for them Thanks a lot David I just wanted to clarify the record real quick Carrie had mentioned earlier about that of hemp plants the agency has not been made aware of any thefts by a complaints this past week and there were two plants that were stolen from a preschool teacher personal garden I think in downtown Montpelier that made just a local front page form which is a local news source essentially for Vermonthers and that was the first that I had heard about it as well so this entire year of the owing plants that I'm aware of not through a complaints agency is this and that might potentially be because it's gearing up for harvest time I just wanted to clarify the record there Thanks David I did see that on the front page form this morning yeah so I think we're kind of getting great between the indoor cultivation and the retail and I know in some states it might happen here where somebody's cultivating at the same spot that they're retailing I'm not allowed to say that that's going to be something that's going to happen or not at this point in time but I want to try to focus on just the cultivation side Carrie at this time just so we can kind of keep track of what we're talking about and have that kind of logical flow into more of a retail space and those comments are extremely helpful for kind of featuring you know how you envision this and how the legislature is likely to envision this kind of market taking shape you know it's one of those things again where I'm going to sound like a broken record folks are going to have their own their own vested interest in making sure that these are secure so I don't know any thoughts Carrie I might be able to put a spin on this from a cost perspective for the board so when I talk about the buck I was talking about so access control limiting the number of people that have access that's obviously something that any grower or licensed owner can take care of with their own internal policies and that's not cost prohibitive at all where you are going to find you know higher costs are for the video surveillance and the alarm and notification systems right and then you know you kind of run the gamut on what that looks like there too so how much video surveillance do you need you're looking at that here's some of the factors are you going to regulate the visibility of the cannabis that's out there are you going to regulate the quality of the video I mean Oregon does that are you going to regulate how long you have to store footage Ohio does that for 30 days right are you going to regulate you know how much your fee needs to be monitored because you kind of run the gamut with different alarm systems as well so that's where you can kind of tinker with costs on the video surveillance and alarm and then you can you can maybe have more freedom to regulate the building access control system without worrying about maybe overburdening the small grower if that makes some sense that's super helpful and I think it will help spur some more conversation I know we focused a lot on fencing and the outdoor cultivation context but I think a fence and an indoor grower was inherently there of the building from a certain perspective anyway so understanding how deep we want to get into requiring specific alarm systems pixels from a camera perspective 24-7 monitoring does that 24-7 monitoring need to be remotely accessible by the board or law enforcement or just making things up but yeah it's fun I'd say philosophically you know I think good regulation is clear and good regulation is the minimal amount necessary to achieve the stated goals so I think that's an important one to consider where it's always better if you have the opportunity of regulation to be more specific and more broad of what you're allowing it's better to be more broad of what you're allowing you have the opportunity to decide to be more specific or more broad of what you're forbidding it's better to be more specific about what you're forbidding so that you're clear and also so that you're the least burdensome you need to be to achieve your goals so that doesn't mean zero regulation at all far from it but it means that when you're considering how much regulation or how many things to regulate that you try to be on the minimal edge of what is still effective so when Tom was enumerating all those various things that we could or couldn't be specifying I would strongly recommend that we stay on the lightest touch of that that we think achieves goals thanks a lot do we have any thoughts so my thoughts are just and I mentioned them last time keeping in mind sort of the downstream effect I agree with you know I can see this from all different sides but I think just not forgetting that when it comes to reporting theft or people wanting responses to those types of reports that we don't tie the hands of the folks who are left to respond or we give them we give them you know some useful tools to help with their job Ashley I want to be conscious of the public comment time as well but just one other sort of thread to pull on is that you are trying to normalize the use of cannabis we are trying to normalize the health effects and I just want to make sure that we are creating a really nice normal destigmatized shopping experience you know I don't want to go somewhere where I can't see the windows I don't want to go somewhere where there are not people in there I don't want to go somewhere where I have to go down this long road to access it I also know that Vermonters care so deeply about where and how and why it's being made they want to tour they want to look at the plants they want into all the different facets of how the plant is getting into the little charts and then they take home and consume so just before we really go down these rabbit holes I mean I do see Tom your points for sure you know there are I'm not interested in rewriting or reinventing appeal but I really we have to keep our lenses on of what it is like in Vermont and what we are trying to do of making this product accessible easily accessible for folks who are of age and can consume it safely that's it you know Kyle a lot of what I said with regard to outdoor grown where you've got a three week window where that crop has any value is not true for indoor the indoor however you set up your square foot you could potentially be harvesting every week or every two weeks and you will have that value product the product will have value at any given point of time in that facility I'm this one is more of a conundrum for me it needs to be protected but I don't know what level is appropriate thank you Terry go ahead Tom I just want to respond to what what Ashley said because it's important and that's another big issue out there I think everyone on the industry side of it wants to have this more memorialized experience and I appreciate what you said Ashley because that's probably exacerbated in Vermont where I can see where a lot of your farms and a lot of your retail you are set up so how things are processed how things are made because it's probably more national it's coming from Vermont but boy that's a real challenge in cannabis right now and just to give you a perspective from Arizona and California and out west where we're getting to be in Arizona it's somewhat more of a mature market now but even with my clients it's become more restrictive to do those tours in the beginning they would invite me as the attorney and I'd bring some folks from my law firm what I was trying to convince listen this isn't the devil's work this is a commodity like anything else look how much care they take and how much security is surrounding the product and I do those we do those tours pretty freely as more regulations came about it's harder to access that more limited access you have to put on all this PPE to even do the tours so that's going to be a real that's a real conflict from what you're saying and to normalize it and to get where you want to be with other products that's not where the industry is right now so it's going to be a little wild before you get there I think any final thoughts before we open it up anybody have a comment there is no comment what I would ask is thank you NACB for getting some words recommendations from a bullet point perspective on a piece of paper that we can move on from an outdoor cultivation perspective I will caveat that with we haven't discussed how farm gate sales might be impacted in separate and supplemental to those so I think we can hold off on that for right now just because I know we've got to think hard about how to do that there's less practical examples that we can go from I know there are some licenses in Canada and they've been debating out west on how to do farm gate sales but I want to make sure we take the time to think about that and the next meeting I'd like to get something on the screen so that we can all review kind of see where everybody is and then thinking and then if folks have time between now and Thursday to kind of dig into some of these indoor regulations think about it from a you know philosophical even perspective as Yvonne said how do we want these regulations to actually look from how specific we want to be with requiring certain types of certain systems and so on and so forth and I'd like to move in that space and then expand into the more retail focus and I know Wendy and I will be back with us on Thursday as deputy commissioner who might be able to share some perspectives on that too with that I think we can enter in a couple minutes early thank you everybody have a good rest of your Monday too


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I would like to welcome you to the lecture today where we are going to basically talk about how to find shear stresses and normal stresses on surfaces which are arbitrary okay and the basic motivation for the problem is as follows. If we have a cylindrical jet or a cylindrical surface and that is a circle okay of radius r0 and if I am looking at this curved surface the direction of the outward normal is going to be in the radial direction okay and the direction of the tangent on the surface is going to be in the axial direction which is z okay. So this is the direction of the normal and this is a tangential direction. Now normally what we have to do is we have to apply boundary conditions on surfaces of this kind and these boundary conditions usually have a physical significance. So the boundary conditions would invoke things like continuity of shear stresses that is tangential stresses or would involve normal stresses okay. So when you write the boundary conditions which we will be doing later on in the course you will be the boundary conditions deal with normal stresses and shear stresses. So in this case the normal stress component is going to be given by tau rr this is the normal stress component okay. And what about the tangential stress component or the shear stress component that is going to be given by tau rz for example for one of the tangential stress components is going to be given by tau rz. So when you are going to write the boundary conditions you are going to write the boundary conditions involving tau rr which you are going to relate to velocity gradients depending upon the constitutive relationship. Supposing it is a Newtonian fluid you will write it as constant viscosity multiplied by the gradient of the velocity okay. So that is what you would do and since these are the standard directions r and z it is easy for you to actually know what these quantities are easily compute them okay. But suppose now suppose the surface is of a tapering jet. So now what is happening is the liquid is accelerating and the jet is getting tapered and it becomes becoming smaller and smaller. The radius here is r0 and r0 keeps decreasing as a function of z okay this is the z direction. So now if you want to look at the surface and now when you are going to apply the boundary conditions these boundary conditions are also going to be in terms of the normal stress components and the tangential stress components. But what about the direction of the normal component is going to be in this direction this is you draw a tangent plane and then you draw the normal to that. So this is the direction of the outward normal okay and what is the stress component that you are interested in if this is the vector n the stress component you are interested in is tau nn that is your normal stress component at that surface at that point. What about here the tangential stress component is going to be tau nt okay the point I am trying to make here is that tau nn has both component in the radial direction as well as in the axial direction. The tau nt also is having a component in the radial direction as well as in the axial direction. So one of the things which you would be doing is you would be using tau nn and tau nt when you have arbitrary shapes of surfaces and so you want to be able to calculate what tau nn is and what tau nt is and what we want to do is we want to relate tau nn and tau nt in terms of the classical shear stresses around a fixed coordinate system around the x direction or the r direction or the z direction or the y direction okay. So the idea is the boundary conditions now involve tau nn and tau nt these are not along r z directions unlike the earlier case r and z directions okay. So what we want to do is we want to relate to nn and tau nt in terms of and tau rz these are the classical directions that we have. So r theta z for the cylindrical coordinates is the you know are the different axis and what we want to do is we want to be able to relate the normal stress and the tangential stress components okay I think on an arbitrary surface to this. The reason is the differential equations they contain the shear stress components in the classical directions tau rr and tau rz and I also want to have my boundary conditions also in the same tau rr tau rz. So what we want to do therefore is to relate tau nn and tau nt in terms of tau rr and tau rz okay. So that is the idea that is the motivation as to why we are doing this. So what we will do is we will do two approaches first we will use a physical approach and we will get this relationship but then you will see that the physical approach involves using a specific geometry and getting a specific relationship what you want to do is you want to have a mathematical framework by which you can generalize this so that you can actually apply it across any arbitrary surface okay. So that is the idea so first we will do the physical approach try to get this relationship between tau nn tau nt in terms of some classical known components tau xx tau yy whatever it is tau xy and then we will generalize it okay. So let us use now we are going to simplify things and one simplification we are going to make is we are going to use a rectangular geometry okay and we are going to make a second simplification which is we are going to look at things in two dimensions okay and look at two dimensions. So this makes it easy for me to draw pictures on the board so it is going to be a better picture than what you had yesterday okay. So what we are going to do is x and let us say that is the x direction and this is the y direction and I am going to take a triangle okay this is definitely in the direction of the y and this is in the direction of x right. So this is my arbitrary surface so this side of my triangle represents my arbitrary surface the normal to this is going to be given by this direction okay that is the perpendicular I have drawn and let us say that this is theta what is this height this is delta y and what is this length here on the x direction that is delta x okay. What are the stresses which are acting on the vertical surface here this stress is basically tau xx because the outward normal is in the x direction and the direction is also x and this is tau xy which is in this direction normal and the y are both positive so they are writing all these stresses they are all positive okay the y direction is positive upwards this is positive that way what about here I have stresses here which is tau yy which is in this direction I have this surface here which is tau yx okay. Now what I want to do is basically find out what are the what is the normal component of the stress here and the tangential component of the stress here and relate it to this. So the normal component of the stress here I am going to denote that by tau nn so this tells you it is on a surface whose normal is in the n direction n and in the direction of n and tau nt is let me just say it is upwards so tau nt is this way okay this is tau nt. So if I had a boundary of this kind and if I wanted to write my boundary conditions I would write the boundary conditions in terms of tau nn and tau nt but what I want to do is I want to be in a position where I can write this boundary condition in terms of tau xx tau yy tau yy tau yx okay that is what we are trying to do. So our job now is to relate this to these stresses in the classical direction okay and the way we are going to do this is by simply a force balance a force balance which tells you that in this triangular element which is infinitesimal we look at all the forces we are acting on the system and say that that should basically give rise to an acceleration of the fluid element inside this okay. So basically we look at the acceleration okay so the force balance in the x direction is so maybe I have to write something here before I proceed we want to find tau nn and tau nt in terms of tau xx tau xy etc that is the job okay. So let us do the force balance in the x direction what do we have sorry yeah in the x direction that is right basically the forces acting on the system must be equal to the rate of change of momentum which will mass times the acceleration okay. So I am going to write the easy part first the supposing this fluid element is actually accelerating with let us say an acceleration in the direction of x given by ax then the acceleration of the system so this because it is a triangle the total volume element is half times delta x times delta y okay and the acceleration of the system is ax what about the forces acting on the element here you have tau xx which is acting on delta y and you have tau yx this is in the y direction so we do not worry about this we have tau xx acting on this we have tau yx which is acting over delta x and what I want to do is I want to resolve these the forces arising because of these stress components in the x direction okay and clearly the angle between two lines is equal to the angle between the perpendicular so what does this mean if I want to draw a vertical line here this angle is going to be theta okay this angle is theta so the component of the tau nn in x direction this is the negative x direction is going to be minus tau nn sin theta cos theta is vertical and then I have tau nt has to go with the cosine and that is also associated with the negative sign cos theta okay you also have the body force which is acting on the system which is going to be given by half times rho g times delta x times delta y and what I have done is I have also forgotten something here which is the length element dl okay so if the length is delta l I need to mention that this is multiplied by delta l and this is multiplied by delta l okay because this is the stress and just look at it as if you are looking at the unit depth into the board so that the other dimension is just unity okay so this is the equivalent of the delta x so now you have everything consistent this is also gx yeah but I am not going to worry too much about it and you will see why the reason I am not going to worry about that this term and this term is these 2 terms the one on the left and the last term on the right they are given by a product of 2 infinitesimal quantities delta x delta y okay all the other terms are of only a single power. So since these are basically infinitesimal quantities these are all of order epsilon so the first term and the last term are actually of order epsilon squared all other terms are of order epsilon so basically what this justifies and allows me to do is to drop these 2 terms and I am just going to write this here this is of order epsilon squared and therefore this goes off to 0 and this goes off to 0 or because this is of order epsilon squared and all these other terms are of order epsilon okay I like to do a y component balance a balance of the forces again in the y direction and if okay before I do the y balance maybe I should simplify this and write the x direction balance 0 as tau xy sorry tau xx is that what it is tau xx delta y tau yx delta x-tau nt with the sin theta delta l-tau nn I call it the other way sorry cos theta delta l okay that is my balance the other thing I can do is I can relate delta l to delta x and delta y okay by using metric geometry so what is cos theta cos theta is delta x by delta l and therefore sin theta is going to be delta y by delta l and what I will do is I am going to write delta y as sin theta multiplied by delta l and delta x as cos theta multiplied by delta l and this gives 0 equals tau xx times sin theta plus tau yx cos theta-tau nn sin theta-tau nt cos theta and the delta l I can take it out because delta l is not equal to 0 it is only tending to 0 okay so this goes off and so that means this is my force balance in the x direction okay so delta l is not equal to 0 remember that delta l only tends to 0 good so now I need to basically do the same thing in the y direction because I have one equation remember I know tau xx tau xy and all these quantities here I know tau yx I know tau xx I have 2 unknowns tau nn and tau nt I have only one equation I need one more equation and the other equation comes from the force balance in the y direction okay so what is the force balance in the y direction going to give me again we are going to neglect the order of epsilon square terms so I am going to just write the only the contributions arising from the forces on the surfaces okay because they are of order epsilon so taking only the terms of order epsilon we have 0 equals tau xy multiplied by delta y plus tau yy multiplied by delta x okay and I need to do the resolution of the forces arising from the surface in the y direction and clearly these guys are the positive direction the way I have drawn this outward normal so this is going to be tau nn cos theta but it is pointing downwards so it is going to be minus tau nn cos theta and I will remember to write my delta l and I get minus tau nt the tau nt sin theta component is going to be in the upward direction so that is going to be associated with the sin theta times delta l okay again do the same thing eliminate delta x and delta y by using your trigonometry get everything in terms of delta l and what do we have 0 equals tau xy times sin theta plus tau yy times cos theta minus tau nn cos theta plus tau nt sin theta okay. So, this how would I get this this is by using trigonometry okay so now I have 2 equations in 2 unknowns and the 2 unknowns that are tau nn and tau nt what I want to do is I can therefore solve for this right the fact is you know tau xy tau yy from your constitutive relationship from if the Newtonian fluid you know tau xy is the viscosity times the derivative of the x component of velocity with y plus derivative of the y component of velocity with x so you know all these okay. So, I am going to do a little bit of rearrangement of these equations and I am going to write this as tau nn cos theta minus tau nt sin theta I am moving this to the left hand side equals tau xy sin theta plus tau yy cos theta okay and this is my y component balance let me write my x component balance the same way move these guys to the left I have tau nn sin theta plus tau nt cos theta equals tau xx sin theta plus tau yx cos theta okay. So, these are right if I have not made any mistakes so what we have got to do now is you know I have got 2 equations in 2 unknowns you can solve this using anything that you have learned in mathematics earlier but I am just going to do one more step and leave it. I like to write this in a vectorial form which is I am going to write the left hand side as cos theta minus sin theta and sin theta cos theta multiplying this vector tau nn tau nt okay equals tau xy sin theta plus tau yy cos theta tau xx sin theta plus tau yx cos theta okay. So, the idea is very simple I mean what I have done is I have just written those 2 equations in a vectorial form so this is a vector now okay this is of the form ax equals b and what you can do is you can find x as a inverse b. So, I am not going to do that there is something for you people to do so find so the unknown is this. So, clearly the left hand side has my unknowns tau nn and tau nt I want to find out tau nn and tau nt in terms of my known quantities tau xx tau xy tau yy etc that was what we started off with so that is what we are doing here okay. So, all these are this is known and this is the unknown okay and x is clearly a inverse b and so you should be able to find out what this tau nn and tau nt are in terms of my classical directions x and y okay you can of course do the same thing in 3 dimensions also then you will have a 3 by 3 matrix okay. Now what is the problem with this method this is of course a method which works and you have of course found the solution for a surface which has an arbitrary angle theta inclined okay which is flat has an angle theta to the x axis which is what we started off with but clearly what you want is I mean when you are solving a problem you cannot be you actually do not know what the surface is most of the time what is going to happen is you would not know what the surface is okay. So, this is the reason why we want to go away from this physical approach the physical approach gives me an expression which is valid for this particular specific case but what I like to do is I like to generalize this in the form of some kind of a mathematical equation or a mathematical formula which helps me to consider things for an arbitrary surface okay and that is what we want to do okay. So, can this is valid for this particular surface which is an angle theta okay. So, how do we generalize this to an arbitrary surface that is the question and what I am saying is we have to use a mathematical framework I just want to emphasize that this mathematical framework is basically to help you do the generalization okay. So, you know you cannot have a formula so you can just do your calculations very quickly I mean you cannot be in a position where you are actually sitting and drawing surfaces and doing this physical argument of what the forces are and then trying to do this relationship okay and that is what we are going to see now. So, before we do this generalization to this mathematical framework so let me just write a few things maybe a small recap of mathematical framework when you have a vector let us say a velocity vector what is the typical thing you are possibly used in a course in physics you would write this as Vx times Ex by Ex is the unit vector in the x direction Vx is the component in the in that direction plus Vy times Ey plus Vz times Ez okay. Now rather than and these are the Ex is the unit vector in the x direction and so on and Vx is the component in the x direction etc. So, rather than talk in terms of x, y and z what people like to do is they like to talk in terms of indices because that kind of helps you make things more compact okay. So, because you have r theta z in the cylindrical coordinate system you have r theta phi in the spherical coordinate system and there are several other coordinate systems where you have different variables. So, what we want to do is we are going to write rather than use x, y, z we will use 1, 2 and 3 the index okay we will use 1, 2 and 3. So, I am going to when I say Vi I mean it is basically the component in the ith direction. So, V1 would be the component in the first direction the first direction could be x for the correction coordinates it could be r for the cylindrical coordinates and so on and so forth okay. So, what we can do is we can write the vector supposing instead of using x, y, z I want to write in terms of indices 1, 2 and 3 okay. So, let me just say that let me just write one more step here. So, i equals 1, 2, 3 correspond to x, y, z directions okay. I would like to therefore this velocity vector now becomes V1E1 plus V2E2 plus V3E3 okay. And what you would like to do is you would like to write this in a slightly more compact form as summation of Vi EI okay. I just wanted to introduce this concept of Einstein's summation convention which basically tells you that what does this say? It just says that if in a particular term you have an index which is repeated that means you are actually summing over that term okay. So, if in a term an index is repeated then we are summing over that index okay over the index. So, rather than write the velocity vector as I have written there as sigma Vi EI I can just write this as Vi EI to 3. This is what you would have normally done okay. So, here in this particular term the index i is repeated. So, it automatically implies that I am actually summing over all the i's. So, I do not have to explicitly write the sigma sign. So, whenever you see a term with a repeated index that means you are summing okay even if the summation sign is missing. Now, supposing you have another vector u which is therefore going to be given by ui EI okay. Consider u. Now, how do you find out the dot product or the inner product of these two vectors okay. What I would do is since this is being summed over i rather than write it in terms of i and since I am now interested in writing this finding out this dot product what I am going to do is I am going to use a slightly different index uj Ej. So, it does not matter because it is just an index. So, this is also going from 1 2 3 that is also going from 1 2 3 okay. So, I am going to write this as uj Ej dotted with Vi EI. What I am trying to make here is that this dot product is going to contribute only when the two directions are identical okay. If j is not equal to i the dot product of Ej and Ej dot EI is going to be 0 only if j equals i you are going to have a contribution to the dot product okay. So, Ej because normally we are working with directions which are perpendicular. So, Ej dot EI is equal to 0 if i is not equal to j and is equal to 1 if i equals j and that is I can write this entire thing in a very compact way by saying that EI dot Ej equals delta ij which is the Kronecker delta okay. So, the dot product EI dot Ej gives me delta ij which is Kronecker delta and the Kronecker delta is defined as being equal to 0 if i is not equal to j equals 1 if i equals j. So, this dot product now is going to contribute this dot product u dot v can therefore be written as since it is going to contribute only if i equals j I can write this as ui vi. So, what this means is you are summing over the corresponding components of the two vectors okay. Now, you are all comfortable with the way the vector is represented in terms of the unit vectors because only one thing you need to specify the direction of the vector. When it comes to tensors you need to specify not only the direction in which the component is acting but also the direction of the surface on which it is acting. So, basically what it means is you need to specify two quantities okay. So, basically a tensor like the shear stress or like the stress sorry the stress components the stress needs as to specify two directions. I mentioned this earlier the direction of the normal to the surface and to the direction of the component okay. So, that is what it was that you have the two indices the first index told you the direction of the normal the second index told you the direction of the surface where is normal or tangential or whatever it is. So, now when it comes to writing the stress tensor what you are used to is writing this as maybe in the form of a matrix where you write this as tau xx tau xy tau xz this as tau yx tau yy tau yz this as tau zx tau zy and z is different in different places it depends on how much I have to bend and this is tau zz okay. So, basically this is the way you possibly seen the stress tensor earlier written in the form of matrix. So, rather than having a one dimensional vector component you have a two dimensional matrix okay in this case is 3 by 3. What I want to do now is rather than talk about it in terms of x and y I am going to go back to using my notation of indices okay. So, indices wise this would mean tau 11, tau 12, tau 13, tau 21, tau 22, tau 23, tau 31, tau 32, tau 33 okay. So, I have just said what I did for the vectors instead of talking about x, y, z I am just doing 1, 2, 3 the 1, 2, 3 could be depending on your coordinate system whatever. So, I now want to write this again because see when I am trying to do my mathematical framework I want to be in a position where I can actually represent the directions of different components. But tau 11 for example represents the component which is acting on a surface perpendicular to 1 also in the direction of 1 okay. So, basically what I am going to do is I am going to write the stress tensor t as tau ij e i e j. So, what does this mean? So, remember this particular term has both the i component being repeated as well as the j index being repeated. The i index is repeated the j index is repeated that means you are going to be summing over both i and j okay. You are going to first keep i constant sum over j and then vary i and then sum over j again. So, basically you will have a total of 9 terms okay. So, this basically has 9 terms okay. So, what I am doing is I am just trying to tell you that tau xx or tau 11 is the component in the direction 1 acting on a surface whose normal I have chosen is also unity okay. That is what it is. What I will just do is make one particular statement now illustrate it and then we will possibly stop. I like to define just like we had the dot product which was defined. I like to define this particular quantity. We will explain this. I just want to illustrate to you what is in store for you on Monday okay. So, we have n dot t dot n and I want to evaluate this. What does n represent? n represents normal. So, n is a vector okay. This is a vector and this is also a vector and this is a tensor. What we want to show here is that n dot t dot n represents the stress component on a surface whose normal is in the direction n okay and acting along the n okay. So, what we will do is we will talk about how to evaluate this in the next class and you will then find out if this formula actually works for what we did using the physical argument. Using the physical argument we got the expression for tau nn and tau nt earlier on okay. That was just by doing a force balance. So, in order for you to verify that what I have written here is actually correct. You would evaluate the term on the left and then verify by whatever we did earlier okay. That would be one way. Now, if you are interested in getting the tangential component on a surface whose outward normal is n, then what you would do is you would just do n dot t dot t. So, this is the direction of the tangential vector represents the component on a surface whose normal is n and the direction of the tangent is t. So, what this allows me to do is if I have an arbitrary surface, if the surface is given you can from calculus you can actually find the direction of the normal and you can find the direction of the tangent. So, if you have a surface y is equal to f of x or r is equal to f of z in the cylindrical coordinate system you can actually find the direction of the normal and the direction of the tangent. So, on that surface if you wanted to find the normal stress component I would use n dot t dot n and if I wanted to find the tangential stress component I would use n dot t dot t. This would basically be because this is in terms of my classical directions x, y, z. So, what I am doing is basically whatever I did earlier in the class today by using a physical argument but now I just use this formula to get my components in the normal direction and in the tangential direction. Thank you.


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We will have a Nick at night tonight So he'll be popping on at around 10 o'clock Pacific Well, I kind of like this design this year 10 o'clock Pacific 1 a.m. Eastern and he'll go for a couple more hours after maybe even more if things are rocking Yes, Ashley hockey will be credentials hockey will be coming up and I think we just have to finish a one-pack Break to finish off that gold rush hockey as well. That's that's a good review Austin. I like that And to answer your question Pete. No, we don't have any more fresh boxes of these That's what Nick Jaspy is saying in the chat So there won't be I think we only have I only see like that stack of 16 boxes out on the showcase And they came in loose boxes like this. I'm just grabbing them right off the top And bringing them in so I mean, I'm assuming they didn't make very much of these And the prices on these are probably crazy already Per box price What happened with flawless number two first off the line is that sold out did the number block sell out? I know we had one more left. Maybe that's gonna come up after certified Okay, so that flawless will go off after the certified in around a couple hours or so two and a half hours So we'll run those number blocks then we'll do the flawless and then we'll keep moving We just we just break in the order that they are filled and certified one also sold out nice Okay, so we'll we'll have a we'll have a break schedule going After this, I know Nick's going through some orders right here. All right Good luck everybody. I'm not sure what the think autos are pretty few and far between Everything ships so like big prospects like Helio Ramos and Jared Kalanick.  I like I'm assuming this is gonna be the design for Bowman baseball, right? I like it I really like it There's Alec Manoa who I think is a big prospect for the Blue Jays for Steven Louise Gill went to the Yankees David Sitko with that and A gold Alec Thomas 12 out of 50 nice Yeah, this that's gonna be for Nick and the Diamondbacks if this is the if this is an example of the Of what we're gonna see this year. I like it. Yeah last year's was okay. It wasn't my favorite like the I know they were trying to be I Guess a little modern a little edgy with last year's design, but I like having the borders again There's nice wander Franco in terms of feel the cards feel They've got a glossy front to it as you can see Not as thin as paper, but not as thick as like a maybe a regular chrome card It seems a tiny bit thicker than and these just feel the same to just a tiny bit thicker than maybe Like a bowman bowman draft paper bowman paper. All right, there's a nice Kalanick right here That'll be for the Mariners. That's gonna be for Craig Johnson I think Kalanick went from the Mets to the Mariners in the Proud deal cano deal maybe oh Rob saying one in every three hundred and ten packs so I Can't math that in my head. There's 24 packs a box Rob so how many per box? So Alec Thomas again for for Nick nice gold Joe Ryan for the rays in a blue alvaro Sejas There you go. That's for the Cardinals Josh Melton The gold 40 out of 75 will go to the rays. That's for DMAC Derek Mackenzie So about one in every 13 boxes Sean and George are saying all right. Gotcha. There's Braylon Marquez to 150 Reese Hines to 150 for the Reds Redlegs Jonathan Spears This is for Jeff peace and the Cubs. I think I saw Jeff here earlier Frankie being more specific. He's saying about 12 and a half boxes Gotcha There's Ruben Cardenas Rays that'll be for Darren there's Anthony volt and So we've got I think we have we only got 16 boxes I don't think we're gonna have any more after that unless some fall into our lap, but So we should expect Hopefully in 16 boxes. We should expect At least an autograph I'd be happy with if we ended up with two nice Joe Adele for Scott and the Angels last spot mojo Lake Rutherford for the White Sox Tristan Casas and Canaan Smith at the end Everything will ship Rob so any cards that I pass by everything ships. I'm just pulling off the foils right here Tristan Casas Red Sox Darren Mackenzie Blake Rutherford Ethan with the White Sox and Joe Adele Angels for Scott and the Angels there you go nice quick box break Now let's flip back to the product right here. Yes Given away some money right here So you've seen this drill before if you buy at least two teams you'll get one entry for break credit Four teams gets you two entries six teams gets you three entries if you buy five teams That only counts as four for the turn for you know for the promo and only two right there All right, so let's alphabetize by your first names here and And Are Is this base card send in really going for that? All right, I'll dig that out then That's crazy. I thought it was half that All right, so John Samuelson bought at least two That's one dare Mackenzie to that's one Ethan with two that's one entry Jeff with two. That's one entry Jonathan with two that's one entry Josh with two. That's one entry Josh proof that is Kevin Crouch with two. That's one entry Matt with two. That's one entry Richard Z with two. That's one entry. All right. I think I got it. Is that is that it really only nine people one in nine Is gonna get a hundred dollars a break right at one spot in nine I got everybody here. Let me double check here. Yeah, I got everybody. All right. Let's roll it Let's randomize it one and three four times For this list right here name on top gets a hundred bucks break credit one two three and One more fourth and final time After four we got Matt's double field congrats to you Matt hundred bucks of break credit going your way Let's find that jade. There he is That's that's wild that is wild David Sitko with the with the Yankee. Sorry about that Dave There you go. So there you have it Thanks everyone Joe for Jasper's case breaks calm. I'll see you next time for the next break. Bye. Bye


The importance of insurance in the growth of any economy, cannot be overemphasised, hence it should be part of our daily lives of individuals. This whether views of experts at the 2023 Insurance Steakholders Consultative Forum held in Lagos, plus tv correspondent Love Ikuku Oyediku, tells us more in this report. These are stakeholders from the Ishwarans sector, gathered at the Lagos Chamber of Commerce and Industry, LCCI. Pani uchitua, apama kwema, kelani tumade ni wajattu. Misha wanaka kwa kha mhanyu nallazhi, na shumakizu wajata k descendendido. Misha wajata kwa kwa ngajillah na shumakizu, na shumakizu na shumakizu, na shumaka kwa kwa mhanyu na handa tuhu. Ibupi, hady Buta, na Shumakizu na handa kwa mhajata. is still at his infancy and far behind his African peers. He noted that despite the substantial role played by insurance, the great and substantial scene in the financial services sector over the last decade has not been replicated in the sector. We have challenges faced by stakeholders. This challenge includes limited awareness among the general population regarding the importance of insurance. We have the issue of low purchasing power, which also is a challenge for us in this industry. How people should have insurance when they can increase their service for their family. Olawale Kul, who cited global insurance market reports, which says insurance penetration rates for Nigeria and South Africa is 0.5 and 12.2 respectively, said the future of the sector hanges on the extent and speed of digital transformation. We don't know what we are now. Insurance is sold long on platforms. The world is gone beyond face to face. Of course, we will be there. We love to get sold on platforms. So, CIT is the place which the insurance industry certainly is best In his keynote, Kameshina National Insurance Commission sounded thermals highlighted the importance of educating the public on the need for insurance. More often than not, we are at the risk in our economy because that is the quality of our revenue to the economy and the growth of the economy. And when you talk about the risk in the economy, you are talking about to what extent are you protecting the different vibrates of the economy. When there is an eventuality, sometimes you may not know the value of insurance when that happens. So, if I pick it from the hangu, in 2022, we paid, I think, a total of 129 billion back into the Nigerian economy. What that means is that if that 129 billion is mixing, it could have led to a lot of things. So, that's one of the value you look at. They maintained that insurance as a risk mitigation strategy also provides the required peace of mind for individuals and corporate institutions providing the required impetus and catalysts for business conception, venture and growth. Love. Oye doku. Plus TV news. Subscribe to our YouTube channel and don't forget to hit the notification button so you get notified about fresh news updates.


The Mistress of Ceremonies, Brenda Babour, distinguished members of the IPTED 2.0 consortium, the University of Bern Center for Evaluation, and the Independent Evaluation Group of the World Bank, supporters of the program, the Swiss Agency for Development Cooperation, the Federal Ministry for Economic Cooperation and Development, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Netherlands. Dear fellow supporters, and most importantly you, the IPTED graduates, good evening. I bring you all the congratulations and good wishes of the IEO, the Independent Evaluation Office of the UNDP, and my own professional network, the United Nations Evaluation Group, where I serve as one of its vice-chairs. I also wish to thank the IPTED Secretariat for the important work, and the visionary Ray Rist and Linda Murroch for starting the IPTED journey way back in 2001, and I was there at the time. The new partnership that you have in IPTED 2.0, as even further gravitas in that the university is concerned, brings substantive evaluation experience and capacity, marked renewal whilst building on the indelible and unmistakable global IPTED brand. As a former IPTED instructor for many years, I have direct experience of how the cause is received and meet alumni across the globe in various forums who talk with pride about being an IPTEDta, as they now work in ministries and departments building oversight systems backed by an amazing IPTED network. You have been privileged to participate in this program and reaching this badge of honor tonight, graduation night. You have been reinscribed or newly minted as an evaluator in a global coveted program. You have shared your experience in a dynamic program and built collective wisdom and knowledge which in the years to come will remain indelible and practical as you draw on who you met as participants who you now call friends. The new consortium resonates very much with my own thinking and the direction being taken by the IEO in its high profile national evaluation capacity building series known as the NEC. A United Nations ship that has and continues to travel across the globe energizing UNDP geographic regions that span 170 countries and territories about the values and virtues of evaluation. The UN see the evaluation to improve the quality of people's lives by aligning promise and intent with practice across the full spectrum of interventions through over 100 UN agencies and related programs. The NEC ship has also gathered momentum from its maiden voyage in the Arab states in Morocco in 2009 from a modest 50 participants to move every two years to another region and have now sailed full circle and will return to the Arab states in October 2019 for round two after a decade. The journey has touched participants from almost the full membership of the United Nations close to 180 countries reaching thousands engaging academia, civil society and the professional networks. The United Nations is critical to the attainment of the SDGs and the United Nations evaluation group has made it a priority to put evaluation on the agenda to build capacity so that governments can report their progress at the high level political forums. Some 40 countries have done so to date and move from a description of monitoring data to an assessment of tangible changes on the ground. The IPTED and our national evaluation capacity conferences are complementary therefore and whilst they work separately in structure and form are two very significant global initiatives that build evaluation capacity and professionalism. I found that the new IPTED 2.0 curriculum focused on more South, new challenges and a larger spectrum of target groups resonates with our own thinking on the NEC. The IPTED brand lives in thousands of graduates each of who is uniquely and collectively a link in the IPTED chain, a chain that girds the globe. In our testing times it is a much needed professional anchor to keep the craft and principles, to remind the principles that we are mission driven and that evidence must trump ego and loud voices in the performance discourse and that when there is a challenge we raise our arguments not our voices. How better to be able to raise the arguments when you are a professional evaluator with the skills, evidence and experience. This evening I have chosen to talk about the values in evaluation as I believe that in the context of fluidity, noise, rough winds and seas it is the anchor that keeps the chain connected and if not addressed can lead to us becoming unhinged in the future. As evaluators we ascribe value we make a professional judgment on past performance which is fundamentally necessary as part of the diagnosis to improve our future. The Wilson Park dialogue which the IEL posted recently focused on just that, revisiting independence, objectivity and the critically reflective role of evaluation in the SDG era. We make judgments. We need to be comfortable with it and we will have confidence if we are properly insulated from influence, have the right reporting lines, budget and power. One cannot be credible and claim to be serving an accountability call if one is reporting to the evaluant. One can if one is reporting to the oversight structures of the evaluant be it a board, council or polygons. The IEO has been successful in enjoying structural, budget-free, behavioral and managerial independence and its work helped by its own IEO brand a strong and high demand for its work. It helps that the administrator Akeem Steiner has affirmed independence and the IEO in his statements and uses the evaluation for steering the UNDP. It also helps that the IEO has an evaluation advisory panel in place to advise its work and audit an evaluation advisory committee to engage with and a board that approves its budget and program of work. The performance question is very political and with declining resources and active citizenry more governments have been called to account than ever before to justify their existence. The stakes are also higher around results in this period as are the politics. We need the credibility to conduct the work and show that indeed we have a value proposition and must take as a constant that our work often is about causing good trouble. The billions and trillions wasted across the globe would have helped global humanity had evaluation be more independent, robust with a more singular focus on ensuring public and corporate sector accountability. More inequalities would have been addressed and through the democratic ethos that evaluation draws on and promotes the values of the UN to which we all subscribe would have been better adhered to. We must recognize that measuring compliance is not necessarily about measuring performance as we all know that any accountability system can be gained. We have seen it with the various crises across the globe in both the public and corporate sector. This is what distinguishes us from other oversight professions. Even though we may not always have the space and recognition we deal with power and do not need to be obliged to validate it. We can ask any questions, I thus caution that whilst technical skills are important there is a very fundamental distinction we must have and that is to be less of a careerist, to be loyal to the evaluation policy. The first identity must be that of an evaluator and then a staff member of the organization in which you work. Our job is to build the evaluation bridge for transparent and accountable conversations between the world of the political and its related leadership and the statements of what will or has happened and the reality of the inevitable discrepancies between policy and results we show up the discrepancies. It is here that the pushback comes whose evidence was truth and in this heated furnace of evaluation communication we can emerge stronger and better forged if we have good methods are coherent to in explaining ourselves as a profession. It would be much more useful if we logically follow on that if evaluation is a judgment it is about accountability and learning can come about in the accountability process with great power comes great responsibility our armor and ammunition is then the principle for which we engage with the principals I share a few of these reflections firstly the principle of exercising the right to judgment independence for transformation I started my professional evaluation life rather naively 23 years ago as the director of South Africa's first monitoring the evaluation directors talks to set up the country's first every direction to ensure land reform was successful it was an era of manjela the first democratic administration new policies new dreams at a time when the euphoria of the country was high and we all thought that good policies and new leaders was ideal to dismantle the apartheid on our order and its insurious structures with the question of land and all that was needed was sound in any system to track progress and ensure that land reform happens we started from scratch developing systems to get and penetrate opaque administrative systems more difficult to the land question where hundreds of years of colonialism and apartheid created a geospatial order that no amount of policy or goodwill could dismantle the value we worked with was evaluation for transformation to bring about change to show citizens how progress was being made and to hold to account and administration that was built on racism and prejudice fear and darkness I recall the contestation the sidelining of the function within the department when senior voices were not happy with the messages and when methods were questioned as the way not to improve but to dilute we are now listening to voices in the evaluation world who say that independence is not important that units need to support learning I am not sure when evaluation became a primary teaching function if so it should be in the et al unit of organizations and not seek to claim to be part of all the sites the definition of evaluation is to make a judgment to generating a dialogue about performance to move forward and improve secondly the value of being self reflective and seeking critique to keep us honest independence comes with responsibility and this means the obligation to seek wise counsel who evaluates the evaluators obviously cannot be the evaluant if it is set up to be given judgment however there needs to be an overarching view of the work of evaluators and this could be in the form of periodic peer reviews I would suggest that a more effective mechanism would be to set up an evaluation advisory panel or light which I set up in 2013 at the independent evaluation office and which provided my office with the collective wisdom of the best evaluation and development minds in the world their task was to do quality assurance methodological guidance strategic directions and focus on development perspectives we benefited from our work being critiqued a better vocab able to keen to global debates and discussions given that the members own formidable experience and gain confidence in how we did our work we just completed a five-year review of the world and found that whilst much progress has been made more needs to be done and they're doing evaluation that scale and speed was necessary but it is essential to manage the quality it is here again that the question of methods comes in how we conceptualize and craft our evaluations how we frame the issues ask the questions which criteria to use what is the evaluation process how we engage and draft results debrief give the right to respond bring in the political and how to write recommendations finally the final value is that of communication but probably the most important value we had Sasha speaking to you about that earlier this week the cost of poor communication is much more than we imagine the wrong messaging at the wrong time not recognizing language nuance being unable to articulate in simple language what we do is often why many evaluations do not get delivered on time to the right audiences we all know about eval phobia it is real that the very words monitoring and evaluation resonates with deep seated fears in the human brain evoking memories of school and university days and causing psychological and physiological tensions this is our business we often whether we like it or not or can control it or not evoke negative sentiment emotions and inevitable defensive behavior i invested time with my iot team engaging in getting us all exposed to brain science how the other side receives what the emotions are and there's much we can learn i've heard many values take the stance that any feedback is defensive and then pull out the yellow or red card in the context of the world cup labeling the evaluate as being defensive and not listening to the virtues of knowledge refusing to be enlightened but by us the all knowing and omnipotent evaluators we have a difficult balancing act and i would thus suggest deep reflection by evaluators of their own communication capability written verbal these are not soft skills and cannot be discounted as unimportant if we invested more engaging evaluation process and obviously still holding to the principles of independence we can engage more effectively we must train to see ourselves and whilst we are often critical of others my professional experience as a manager in many contexts over many years has shown me that evaluators can learn much on how to listen better respond with more empathy and build credibility through greater rapport in conclusion i know the value of dinner and drinks and celebrating graduation and thus will not stand between this fact and you i congratulate you all again and wish you well as you continue to do right things what is right cause good trouble when you need to keep to the principle and with evaluation help us create a better world towards the gender 2030 safe travels the reinscribed and newly mentored hip-set 2018 thank you