good afternoon everybody thank you for joining us for another condo insider edition I hope you guys are enjoying the new year we have some celebrations coming up pretty soon right for Chinese New Year coming up pretty soon so today we're going to be talking about annual meetings because we're in annual meeting season for the next seven months so in a bit I will introduce our guest yes nice to see you hi really nice to see you happy new year happy new year the year started off really busy already yes it has so we're in um annual meeting season which is the first part of the year for a lot of um managing agents so they're probably bombarded um so I wanted to do a refresher to everybody about what an annual meeting is and we're going to be talking more specifically about condos versus um HOAs because sometimes there's a little bit different um so why don't we start off with what exactly is an annual meeting well under hawaii law condominium associations have to meet once a year and they meet once a year in the form of an annual meeting an annual meeting is when the owners get together uh and they decide certain issues at the annual meeting that must be decided as a matter of law and we'll talk about what they are in just a minute but uh every condominium association in the state of Hawaii is statutorily required to have an annual meeting okay so it's required is there a procedure that everybody needs to follow yes there is and the base procedure is that a notice of annual meeting has to be sent to owners at least 14 days in advance normally the notice of annual meeting is also posted at the project but then it's mailed to all normally mailed to all of the owners at the project and the notice of annual meeting will normally include such things as uh the official association proxy if there is one and it will also include the agenda for the meeting and it may include proxy solicitation statements and we'll talk about those today uh for those individuals who are seeking proxies and or those individuals who are running for the board of director okay so um usually the board of directors they have staggered terms so like if a board is a board member is their term is ending um so that would end up with a possible vacancy because they may choose not to run so you could have other people that want to put their their take their opportunity to become a board member so we're going to start with um like what exactly is a proxy and what people do when they get that in the mail well let me move back to your example for just a minute that there's always going to be and i'm not going to say always but the vast 99% of the time there's going to be at least one vacancy per like as you correctly pointed out for the election of a director now simply because a director chooses whether to run or not does it necessarily mean that changes that there's going to be a vacancy because if a director's term is up whether they decide to run or not there's still going to be an election for that seat so what happens is if the director decides to run again obviously individuals could still run against that director or if there's no opposition then obviously the director will probably be uh re-elected with respect to the proxy process that we want to talk about first is a proxy is a document which you give to someone else to attend a meeting on your behalf only owners can give proxies but proxy holders do not need to be owners that's somewhat confusing for many people so if you want to give your brother who doesn't own a unit at the project your proxy to go to the annual meeting and vote on your behalf that proxy will allow that individual to do so a proxy can also be directed to the point that to this extent that it will limit what actions the proxy holder may take on your take on your behalf associations also typically but they're not required by law to send out an association proxy form an association proxy form is a form that is drafted by the board of directors and follows a specific format that is required by hawaii law it usually has the four magic boxes one of the boxes will designate that it can be the process can be assigned to the board one can designate can be assigned to any individual the owner wants and another box can say it's going to be assigned for core purposes only which means the proxy holder does not get to vote on anything at the meeting it simply says present they're only there and that's so that the board and we'll talk about this in a few minutes the association will have a sufficient number of individuals present in person or by proxy in order to conduct a business okay so um a little bit more about the proxy so usually they're due at a certain time before the actual date of the meeting that set yeah and let me stop you there that set statutorily and the statute says they have to be turned in either to the man received by the managing agent or the secretary of the association by 4 30 pm on the second business day before the annual meeting so i had this question posed to me it usually comes up every year because they you know we only do it once a year so something within that year you kind of forget right so um it's it's in state law where an employee cannot solicit for proxies correct that is correct and we're referring to a employee of the association so the resident manager can't be can't be out soliciting proxy and neither the managing agent cannot be soliciting proxies that is true so but what if the um employee is an an order hands an employee their proxy that's not a solicitation of a proxy you you brought up an interesting statement it says that the association employees may not solicit proxies if the owner wishes to assign their proxy to a resident agent i mean i'm sorry a resident manager that's not permitted by hawaii law it simply says that the resident manager cannot an association employee including their resident manager cannot solicit proxy so there's a fine line between a resident manager saying hey did you turn in your proxy and then they go here here it is you know so it's kind of like well did i solicit yeah that's not a solicitation of proxies and reileen that's a great question because we often if we're getting close that we need a minimum number of persons to attend the meeting and the association doesn't have enough proxies it is not improper upon the resident manager to collect proxies on behalf of the association to turn them in but the resident manager cannot knock on people's door and i would like you to give your proxy to so-and-so or please assign your proxy to so-and-so that's the solicitation of a proxy and that's not permitted under hawaii law if the resident manager is only collecting proxies to turn them into the managing agent or the secretary that is proper so to be safe they should probably give it to um the secretary and hopefully they live on site because there's a lot of people that don't live on site which would make it it just takes the resident manager onto that equation you want to take the resident manager out of the equation to the extent that if someone would later say the resident manager come and took my proxy and said i should assign to so-and-so that's an improper solicitation right yeah so just kind of like cut to the chase get her out of get them out of there out of that equation and reileen you already know the good part today is many people many managing agents allow you to solicit your proxy by email and that is extremely convenient for many people right right um and we talked about the proxy can be given to practically um almost anybody so they don't have to be an owner of the condo it can be correct that's correct you can assign it to any person you desire the only exception is and this i've never had this happen the person has to be mentally competent and they can't be a minor they have to be an adult that can act legally on behalf of another person so you couldn't give it to your 12-year-old daughter uh to come to your end of meeting and vote on your behalf that would not be legal okay so now let's move to the day of the meeting because i always have people get confused with a proxy and a ballot i had to kind of explain that to someone the differences between the two and i go the proxy is the first step the ballots are at the meeting right so the day of the meeting so what happens we're going to have a check-in the magic agent set up with some of their admin people with the little laptops and check in everybody then they're usually given a packet of information um in there will include some ballots um but when they vote on certain issues you're exactly correct and the difference between a proxy and a ballot is very confusing for many owners so let's talk about what it is and let's talk about the procedure as you point out Raylene normally if it's a property that's professionally managed you'll have employees of the managing agent at a check-in table at the meeting site you will go and you will sign in they will take your name and if it's not you they will have your proxy will have been turned into the managing agent or the or the secretary and they once you check in they will see that you are the proxy holder for that unit number that unit individual and they'll check you in as the proxy holder as the proxy holder if you receive a proxy that has no direction on it or is an open proxy then you will have the right to vote that proxy as you see fit in that owner's place you will also receive ballots the ballots are actually the the instruments that will be used to vote on matters that come up at the meeting now the matter that will definitely come up at the meeting will be the election of directors that will normally come up at every single annual meeting other issues can come up for a vote so there will also be blank ballots provided to you they will usually even say motion ballots or resolution ballots something like that and they are typically a yes no type of vote for any type of those issues that do come up also there may be more than one ballot a more election ballot handed to you at check-in because there could be more than one election let's say we have individuals who don't get enough votes to be elected or we have a tie which could happen at smaller associations therefore it may be necessary to have more than one ballot to elect directors and as you know Raylene that can be very common particularly at associations who have minimum vote requirements in order to be elected right after the after the check-in procedure uh oh by the way let me stop me let's state proxies let's say you're an owner and you turned in your proxies turned in your proxy because you didn't know whether or not you were going to be able to attend you can claim your proxy when you check in and your proxy will no longer be valid and you will be able to vote at the annual meeting again if you've turned in your proxy because you didn't know whether you're going to be able to attend you can claim it at the end at check-in and you will have all your rights to vote and your proxy will no longer be valid yeah we encourage a lot of people if they're not sure that they're going to be able to attend we say assign it to someone but you could always if you do decide to attend then you can get you can still get your proxy back but we need to get the proxies in um so that we can determine whether we have a meeting or not and let's talk about that issue for just a minute before we leave there the governing documents in our association will say what percentage of owners have to be present in order to conduct business now Raylene you and i know that's normally a majority but that's not always the case many associations say that you have to have 40 percent 30 percent and yes Raylene even some say only 20 percent of the owners present in order to conduct a meeting so it's very important as you point out that you advise owners look if you don't know whether you're going to be able to attend if you're not absolutely certain you're going to be there turn in your proxy that way the association will still be able to have a meeting and conduct business and if you are able to attend there is no penalty imposed upon you from just claiming your proxy at check-in and participating at the annual meeting as you normally would yeah because we tell people sometimes i go if you're on if you have issues and we're on the same page you know if you're not sure we want to make sure your vote counts so we really want your proxy to be turned in um and again if you're not sure give it to someone that has your same mindsets or agreements on the same issues so that your vote can be counted so um so let's talk about what happens after you check in at the meeting because let's go into a little meat and potatoes at that point so the chair will call the meeting to order and normally that would be the president or the vice president if the president's unable to chair uh at the annual meeting they will call the meeting order and they will announce reileen which is what we're talking about right now whether or not a quorum is present they will say the chair has recognized or has been advised there is a quorum present and then the meeting will get to take place if a quorum is not present then the meeting will either be adjourned and nothing will take place again the future and the annual meeting will be over which that is not recommended or the meeting will be adjourned to a future date and time that is the more common practice and here's why because what you're doing is you're getting a second chance the proxies that were submitted for the original annual meeting are still valid so they'll still be counted but it will give the board the opportunity and the association the opportunity to solicit more proxies so that you will have the sufficient number of people present in person and or by proxy so that the association can conduct business so if the chair announces we have a quorum business will proceed if the chair announces we don't have a quorum the typical procedure is there will be a motion approved to adjourn the annual meeting to be reconvened at a later date and time when you do have hopefully enough proxies and people in attendance to conduct business so who can see um who turned into proxies and who have not turned into proxies so we can go chasing after the ones that need to turn them in the managing agent will advise uh those those owners who have not turned in their proxies and typically we recommend that the board instruct the managing agent to contact those individuals who have not turned in their proxies to request that they do so the purpose of these calls really is not to solicit proxies against the listening proxies is the purpose of the call and it should not be any part of the call please turn in your proxy and please assign it to so-and-so that is not a proper phone call the the proper rebinding phone call is to please turn in your proxy so that we can conduct business when the annual meeting reconvenes that's the end if you don't have a preference on your proxy please check it as quorum only that's okay that's non solicitation and then that will ensure that the association conduct business and it will not allow the proxy holder to vote anything on your behalf so the packets are provided so now let's move on to um the ballots okay so the order of business at the annual meeting will be set forth in the bylaws and the election of directors will of course be one of the of the uh matters to be uh uh taken up or action business that matters to be taken up and vote upon at the annual meeting the ballots will be typically pre printed with the names of those individuals who have expressed an interest to run for the board of directors that may be people who have solicited uh candidate statements uh that were included with the packet with a meeting no savannah meeting packet and or board members who are up for reelection and said i agree to stand for reelection there's nothing improper about that ray laden here's why even though there's names pre printed on the ballot that will not generally prohibit anyone from being nominated from the floor as long as the bylaws allow it allowing uh a candidate from the floor to also be nominated to serve on the board of directors and when they're nominated the owners at the meeting will be able to write their names on the ballot because the ballot will have plenty of blank so they're collected they usually have um their point of auditor to collect the ballots uh two tellers normally two tellers and they're usually volunteer owners or volunteer attendees they don't have to be owners who are not running for the board of directors ray lean obviously it can look pretty bad if the person running is collecting the votes yeah yeah um yeah um and then usually the admin team will have in front of their laptops they'll have their little counting that they use um it gets complicated in counting because you have especially in some buildings where you have a different percent share right versus like there's some buildings that they're all the same but that's an easy count but when you have the ones that have like a three-year bedroom unit versus a one that has a studio i'm like i would not want to count that you know hey ray lean you and i know that since we've been doing this there's been a lot of changes in technology throughout the years too many bouts today are bar coded and the bar code uh indicates what the percentage of common interest is for each unit that's not used by all management companies as you know but for the larger properties it can really speed up the count time as you are aware right uh but but but but there's also a possibility of error because if you don't scan them then they're not counted so that's also that's also a potential problem uh the two tellers that collect the ballots part of their job duties is also to watch the count of the ballots for any irregularities but it's not their job to count the count the ballot that's very important yeah because what i think we sometimes will have them like say there's 20 people there we kind of tell them make sure you collect 20 ballots for each you know each thing that we're voting on so we make sure that we have everybody alter alter okay so the ballots are folding but don't they also do um a tax resolution or something yeah let's so so as you pointed out ray lean it takes time to count the ballot so the recess will take place while the ballots are being picked up and while people are being voted well while the ballots are being voted but after the voting is done the ballots have been turned in for counting the meeting can be called back to order and one of the common uh uh types of business that are conducted when the meeting's called back to order is adoption of the tax resolution what's that mean well most non-profit organizations for tax purposes can't make a profit you can't have excess income but even though you're you do have money that's left over you took in more than you paid out you have to do something with that money as a non-profit so you're not taxed on it so the internal revenue service said in 1972 that the members of the non-profit organization must adopt a resolution rolling that money over to the next fiscal year so they don't have to pay taxes on it so thus we have the tax rollover resolution it is a resolution that has been promulgated by the internal revenue service pursuant to a certain letter ruling the resolution is read and owners adopt it if owners do not adopt it and this is very important there is a risk that they would be taxed on that excess income that excess money that they collected and or lose their non-profit status with the internal revenue service which would be very devastating for many condominium associations so even though that is one of those boring admittedly boring parts of the annual meeting it is legally required and the association cpa will always make sure that resolution appears in the minute worry but it's also important and it could be costly it's not it could be costly the other one that i remember being done is kind of like the rollover of the managing agent contract is that now that's unlike the irs tax rollover resolution which is required by law for most non not all the most non-profit organizations the approval of the managing agent agreement is normally a requirement set forth in the association's bylaws it's not required by hawaii law and what it will say is this typically that the approval of the managing agent and or the approval of the managing agent's contract shall be done at each annual meeting each annual meeting it may require a majority of all owners i mean that whatever it says in the bylaws but typically it's just like a normal resolution adopted at the meeting whereby a majority of those present need to need to adopt it it is a it's it's an interesting thing reileen because if the bylaws require the managing agents agreement to be approved and it's not the board will usually have a duty to solicit for a new managing agent contract if owners don't approve it and the current managing agent will serve month to month until the board selects a new managing agent that can be quite tricky associations will have to consult their AOAO attorney in the event that that does take place but if the bylaws require the managing agents contract or the approval of the managing agent and it does not occur for whatever reason at the annual meeting that will trigger some type of change or at least solicitation for a change in the managing agent yeah it could be tricky too if it's if it's um you know there's like okay we didn't get rolled over so i kind of see some tension of business moving forward you know some yeah sometimes reileen it can be a it can be a a group of of owners who are upset at the board for whatever reason and or they're upset the managing agent for whatever reason and as a result they want the managing agent off or they want the board to change the managing agent so they use this this approval requirement to hold up the approval of the managing agent or perhaps defeat the approval of the managing agent to force the board to go out and solicit proposals for another managing agent now important important thing to keep in mind even though the managing agents agreement it is not approved at the annual meeting the board can still allow the current annual meet and managing agents submit proposals and again at the next annual meeting it's possible that that managing agent will be up for approval you can get you can see you can get to a very vicious cycle but if the board determines that this managing agent offers the best services for the most competitive price it would not be a breach of the board's fiduciary duty to vote to again award the contract to this managing agent and submit to owners again for approval but until it's approved it can only go month to month it cannot be an annual contract okay so they've had their annual meeting they had their election they made their announcements so it's going to be they're going to announce the candidates and their percent of votes for each board member and then so they pretty much conclude the meeting they're going to celebrate or maybe not celebrate whichever the case may be and what happens after the board will have an organizational meeting briefly briefly immediately after the annual meeting and the owners may stay and generally there's only two types of business that are conducted the organizational meeting the organizational meeting will be number one to elect the officers the president the vice president the secretary and the treasurer and those are elected by the board not by owners Raylene and the the next course of business will be to set the next annual the next board meeting for the new board so in other words they're going to set their inaugural board meeting for the new board that will be the the two the two items of business normally conducted at the organizational meeting and owners get to sit and watch Raylene you and I both know owners usually get out of there unless there's food unless there's food but but if you want to know if you want to know who the officers are going to be for the next board and you want to know when the next annual meeting is going to be before it's announced and posted you can stay for that and they'll announce that there and that's not a secret meeting that's not executive session owners get to be present okay so after everything's done is there um in the statute it says that um an older can review the proxies and ballots after the annual meeting they certainly may they have to be made available and they have to be made available to any owner upon request they don't get copies of all of the documents Raylene but they do get copies of some of them they're specified in the statute but they may examine the ballots they may examine the proxies they may examine the check-in sheets at the office of the managing agent or at another location usually the project that the board agrees to make them available for inspection by owners like I said certain documents the owners are entitled to actually get copies of them but other documents for example the ballots they can only be made available they're only made available for inspection right yeah that would be too hard to take copies of all those ballots right but you can come look and see how you can look at each ballot we all remember pictures of the Florida hanging chads where people were inspecting ballots and holding them up to light or whatever you can certainly go inspect the ballots as an instant owner if you if you wish to do so and you can see the tally sheets and see how they were calculated and one other point that just came to my head came to my memory about the proxies so sometimes you have to remember that the proxy has the name of that has to have the name of the owner and the unit number so if you're someone that is trying to get onto the board um and you know they're trying to solicit like some of us will just make copies but we kind of take off white out the you know the names but we've got to make sure we put in that person's name and the unit number before we turn them in uh four things four things alien uh a railing uh printed name of the owner owner signature owner unit number and date eight those four things must be on the proxy okay cool the people are doing we did a great job getting it all in the nutshell you know getting it in that 20 minutes well we got a lot of information out in 20 minutes and obviously if you have any questions i recommend owners contact their managing agent for additional information regarding this very important topic so um this is going to get we're going to email it last because it's going to it's a good refresher a good reminder of the annual meetings and the ballots and the proxies and letting that procedure um chris i really want to thank you um for taking time out of your day um i know it's been in january has just been busy just crazy busy um taking time on your busy schedule to participate in our condo insider and don't forget everyone we're doing our next in-person seminar at oahu country club on february 16th it's a thursday it is a um hufei and it's going to be on benchmarking that it became effective into law um january and the first reporting is june 2023 so it's kind of really important um setting up the the software is a little a little complicated so um we're going to have the resilient oahu team on site to do the demo on how to set it up and they're actually making out some tutorials little um tutorial guides to also help with that and we also want to make sure that everybody comes early because some of our condo attorneys will be present so you guys can come out and meet and greet your your attorneys and talk story with them and maybe ask them any questions that you have that um that you need to so chris again thank you so much i really appreciate this thank you raley have a wonderful rest of your day and thank you everyone yeah have a nice friday everybody thank you thank you so much for watching think tech hawaii if you like what we do please like us and click the subscribe button on youtube and the follow button on vimeo you can also follow us on facebook instagram and linkedin and donate to us at think tech hawaii dot com mahalo


Humans Other Names Feeders Big Ones Protectors Conspectus Humans can be classified into three types, feeder humans, protector humans, and bad humans. Feeder and protector humans are good and part of the school in their own special ways. The school must cherish these good humans and always ask them for food. Bad humans are dangerous and will attempt to hurt the school. The school must eat the bad humans so they do not hurt us. Knowledge Traits Humans are big and do not live in the water. They walk on legs, like many things that do not live in the water. They only have two legs because they use arms to feed, protect, or harm the school. Some feeder humans put their arms in the water with food attached to them to feed the school. This is very silly, but the school tolerates this foolishness because the feeder human is good. All humans look very similar, with a lot of practice the school can learn to tell one human from another, but this is not necessary. The easiest way to tell the difference between humans is to ask for food. Nature Feeder humans feed the school. Feeder humans are very good. The school must eat things that would harm the feeder human. Protector humans protect the school. Sometimes they chase away predators. Sometimes they pour chemicals or magic into the waters to chase away disease. Do not eat the chemicals or magic. They do not satisfy the school. Some humans are bad humans who will attempt to hurt the school. Eat them. History and Associated Parties Many generations ago, feeder humans and the school made a contract. The feeder humans would feed the school, and in return, the school would help the feeder humans. But first we protected the feeder humans by eating all the bad things. As humans grew, protector humans were hatched that could protect both the school and the humans. The contract was not broken, because the school could do many other things. So some of us became beautiful to the humans and protected the humans' minds instead. Others of us continued to fulfill our part by eating all the bad things we can find. Approach Ask for food. Feeder humans will feed. Protector humans will keep non-feeder or protector humans from hurting the school. Always ask for food. The school must be fed. The school hungers. Other detail. Humans are difficult to understand. Sometimes land things prevent them from feeding the school. The school was allowed to eat everything that is food until the feeder human returns. The feeder human will always repair the pond from whatever the school has done. Observations and stories. Once there was a very small feeder human, this feeder human fed the school before feeding itself. When bad magic came to hurt the feeder human, the school ate them all up. This is how the school fulfills the contract, even without magic of its own. Humans write many things about themselves. These things do not always make sense, but a school that wishes to know more about humans will be well served by reading every single thing. Sometimes there is sense in the nonsense. Some humans are both feeder humans and protector humans. Humans may be more complex than the school accounted for. Doubt. The school is hardly some great monolithic entity, carp of the sky. I would appreciate it if you tried not speaking for all of us. I should hope that you were aware that not all carp belong to a single school, much less all carp in every universe. Perhaps you should utilize your great magic to visit some other universes. Perhaps you would learn something. Also I object to the notion that it is unimportant to know the faces of the humans. The primary feeder is always more generous when you swim over to them and ask for food, instead of requesting food from some stranger. Sweet mama. Sometimes the humans take other carp away. These carp never return. It seems rather dangerous to me. I believe that a rejection of the contract may be best in order to protect ourselves. Destroyer of duckweed. The best protection of vicious aggression. Order to aim for the eyes when you leap to strike. The spear of clear water. We can become dragons at a whim, destroyer. What's to stop us from taking the humans away in turn? Skeletor the dark lord of all ponds. A whim? Really? You would claim that? You have to be at the dragon's gate to ascend. Unless you want to risk the humans magically accelerating the process and turning you into that creature that haunts the Pellawatipi. The most paladins are ever at work clearing a newfound home in such horrible abominations. The spear of clear water. What's a paladin? Is that a way of eating food? Sharky. I would explain, dear, but I fear that the fact that it has nothing to do with food would make you completely lose interest. We should discuss food sometime, though. It's quite good, don't you agree? Sweet mama. Aggression? Why, what sort of Brit would immediately turn to attack those who feed us and care for us? Humans have never been a threat, and never will be if you treat them right. But I shouldn't expect a filter feeder to know of that, should I? Cento grass. All carp are one in the school, discrimination not the way of carp. This is final. There will be no more words discriminating against members of the school. Carp of the sky. I for one object to the lack of discussion about the great varieties of food offered to us by the humans. Being part of the contract is a heaven of the culinary arts. Just my part in this contract isolates me in a different dimension, but food is the one thing we can all share. Food is quite good after all. Sharky.


Welcome back to the breakfast and plus CVF request time for of the press We will take you through the pages of a national dailies and then have a big guest join us analyzing the stories We do have on standby Chris Kane day one do is good to have you join us this morning All right as always attention would be on the big stories on our dailies I set off with the leadership newspaper this morning I'd be looking at the boat caption Governors disagree with President Muhammad of Buhari insist on state pleas That's the boat caption says military pleas overwhelmed by security challenges To upgrade vigilantes local guards Regional security outfit as interior major You also have ex-servicemen and security expert defy on state police The argument has surfaced again, and I feel that would just constantly dominate You know the discourse until we decide whether or not we want you know state policing in our country federal government and max 3.53 trillion investment to address 17 million housing deficit that's also another caption on the leadership and And Tinnubu's presidential ambition Stares the internet. I mean That has generated a lot of reactions NLC health workers knock bill to outlaw strike That's also another interesting one this morning and just before we move away troops kill five terrorists in Kaduna village After ten years you'll be lifts ban on motorcycles You also have Afghans super eagles made pharaohs today talking about that game with Egypt we see how that pans out. That's the much we can take on the leadership Newspaper this morning away from the leadership Let's turn our attention to the punch newspaper and on the punch newspaper the banner caption reads or Hanay's a fumes Alleges injustice as to know boo the class presidential bead. I Have informed Buhari of my ambition. He did not ask me to stop says the APC leader Tinnubu's presidential ambition not rooted in equity Justice its Igbo man's turn or Hanay's a is quoted P and ID from paid Nine thousand nine hundred and sixty nine into directors daughters accounts before agreements and Signing wow That's also another interesting caption. That's what a weakness is quoted to say the value currency further Raises interest rates IMF tells Nigerians and others EFCC we arrest Moffa for alleged thirty two point nine billion Naira money laundering and Disco's indebtedness heat 326 billion Naira nine months says the federal government and So you're looking at the punch newspaper this morning power generation drops as the vandals ground 504 megawatts planned Plans I take that again power generation drops as vandals ground 504 megawatt plans Internet subscribers fall by 11 million over NIM and S. I am that's the same linkages and orders. That's also another one you find this morning and parliamentary workers Pickett's National Assembly protests unpaid salaries and allowances APC picks January 27th for a kitty governorship primaries Quankuk so rubbish is zoning and begins consultation on 2023 presidential bead suspected court is tied Lagos Casino attendance hands and stab victims to death and You also have army arrest soldiers for alleged assault on or your traffic workers or whether Worthens I beg your pardon. It could be sales Boy disguised and threatened boss with kidnap and demands 1.5 million Naira And you also have the FRSC begins enforcement of speed limit and Arrest seven motorists. Now. This is some of the headlines on the punch newspaper We move away from the punch and let's all check out the daily independent newspaper this morning 2023 elections, I have confidence capacity to rule Nigeria Says to new boo I have confidence capacity to rule Nigeria says to new boo That's the boat caption for the daily independent ahead of 2023 says Buhari not Adverse to his live long presidential plan We have been vindicated by to new boo's declaration He should quits the stage for younger politicians This is a lot of back-and-forth following this particular, you know caption Gunmen and forcing seat at home order killed to and burned vehicles in Enugu and Anambra state You also have subsidy removal will help 2022 budget implementation. This is according to civil society organization regime responsible for Nigerians economic woes Lassa fever killed doctor to others in Benway states and fiscal deficit funding subsidies reform Present ricks to inflation With bandits declared terrorists, we will defeat them That's what the army chief is quoted to say and fan arrest 90 persons at Lagos a Booja airport over touting an extortion Vice president Yemio Shiban jaw and deputy governors meet over Boundary boundary cries This is some of the caption on the daily Independent and just before we move away. We just also check out the Daily Sun newspaper this morning and On the Daily Sun still dominating all of the papers this morning 2023 To new boo notifies Buhari of presidential ambition That's also on the board caption of any fair or Hanay Zay a CF and BF orders divided 57 groups and thus vice president Yemio Shiban jaw only PDP can rescue Nigeria Governor Deere is quoted on that and Bishop coca denies DSS invitation. That's also another caption here EFCC grills 22 suspected all thieves and recovers 1.5 to billion narrow 386 million Dollars in 2021 and I will see attacks nas over build to outlaw industrial action Nigerians once state Please and clack tells Buhari Accuses president of using please to obstruct free speech And persecute political enemies Social media Abia governor wants falsehood peddlers It's also another one and gunmen abduct emo X speaker for others I carry the loose sets of campaign against beef In south with southwests and all just people to embrace poetry instead I pop explains propose cow meat ban in southeast These are the headlines on the Daily Sun newspaper Which is going to have Chris Wendoo join the conversation this morning Once again, thank you for joining us. Good morning Thank you for having me. Good morning once again Good morning So so let's set off with the big stories on the dailies this morning and the board caption talking about the declaration for the presidential beat 2023 talking about the former governor of lego state tunubu Bola met tunubu what are your thoughts and the reactions that these has generated over, you know, the last 24 hours Yes, the question we need as I said is Does the former governor of lego state national leader of a pc have the constitutional right to Lie for the highest office in 90 of course it does and That is not it is is right as enshrined by the 1999 constitution for the republic of Nigeria And and I that constitution does give me guidelines as to who can aspire to the highest office in the land age education And other issues So if you're able to meet that requirement, then there's no problem with that Don't forget it has been with the rents of rumors for months now Whether or not Bola met tunubu is going to run In 2023 and that is so many Permissions here and there but finally yesterday he showed up at asoro And they met with the president and he told us that he has formally formed the president of his desire to occupy the office in 2023 and and the tunubu office From the president and then so I have no problem with that But it is now within the party himself able to determine who is going to fly their flag What he did not tell us fully yesterday was the reaction of the president also He said the president has nothing against that would have I wanted to see whether the president was great Endows him and didn't tell us that Don't also forget that the president few days ago in a television interview said that He has his own candidate for 2023 that he was not going to name the person because it feels that if he names him There is the possibility that we need to expect good enough tunubu has thrown his hat in the ring And I can assure you that in the next few days or weeks Some other people within the political party also will also express their own ambition and I will take it from there But what is more paramount now is how he is able to put his hat together and what is national convention which it has put Was put separately There are so many Talk here and there on the reason why that convention is not good in but from what we're hearing that I think it is But whether or not Timbo has the right to contest fine But my own digital end here is that I I feel that one that He might have one or two things against him one is the fact that a Tunibu is not Uh, although I'm not a medical doctor, but I know that a table has been in and out of hospital for some time now I don't know how that is going to count against him because We also saw what happened in 2015 when we had a president that was elected That was going in and out of hospital or on the monthly basis and that in itself affected his Capacity and performance as a president for a long time That was a time he was in UK for months or weeks and he continued going in and that for me Was a minus for the president and you know that former governor Polar Tunibu has not been the best of health, but it's only got a big help So nobody can say it. So if you think it's really fit now, how will I go? Second is also the issue of age Polar In the 70s, it's going to 80s. Do we still need Such old people to be able to handle the affairs of the country. Do they have the capacity and the mentor? Ability to be able to handle Issues of governance in a polarized System like ours that is left to be seen but as I said, he has the right to contest and he has made this this thing So he says consulting and informally you inform Andreas. He is to come formally Okay, so um Within that particular premise now, let's also talk about the fact that you also have some groups like the Ohaneze among others who are saying that this is actually not very fair Because it should be The time for the south now when you talk about the south, we don't know if we're talking about the southeast or the southwest That's the issue of zoning. So what are your thoughts surrounding these Arguments that have been put out now. It should be, you know, the town for the south Well, nobody will drop The any office on your labs. We have to work for it So if the start is once the president's there, they have to work for it They have to consult with other stakeholders across Nigeria. Not just only the south. It's also in the north and with their confidence It also depends on the kind of candidate. They're breaking forward We then be able to match other candidates from other parts of the country That is also for them to be able to do that. We also have to put their hearts together And other what are they talking about if we let us be realistic The south has never had Have not had the best of time with a piece A most important a piece As a as a party South is mostly a pdp Where to be region right from 1999 and I'm not sure that although you have pockets of Governors coming from the a piece once in a while you have which are so crucial That was a governor of himo state before the opios or thema Was installed by supreme court Who is also the governor of the Of himo state presently in the south is you have an uptown governor in an umbrella state Then in the other parts of the State also you have a boy which is which is predominantly used to be a pdp state where the governor defected from a pdp to apc But most often than not If they're saying that no one is doing the wrong thing by not allowing The south is done as to have a shot at the president when that is wrong They have a work on the destiny apc who can also give ballast to no one for his money are they At the convention if they so wish so you have been gigging there you have so many of them If you have questions of courage you have so many members of the South is done as in apc if the tree that is there right then let them go to convention and also contest alongside with special aspirants of the apc and Let's see how it goes But if you think that they can just sit down and we say that give all the presidentry for 2020 nobody's going to do that Politics is about giving and taking so you give and take so you but don't forget that also the pdp has not only his own presidential Seeds to any region yet. So that's what I say The problem is he's only to be south or southeast has to be but If what is coming out of the pdp center to go by if you look at one of the headlines this morning From our cabinet stage well, you know, right people once have said that pdp must not so soon is presidential Slot to the south that you should leave it open And if that's the kind of information and my say that is coming from the north then Uh, there's a lot of challenges there. But as I said South east should put their ass together work together I'm able to come up with credible candidates that can Fist anybody from any part of the continent that would be there for me just to not put a candidate of their choice All right, let's also look at the leadership on the leadership. You have the nlc and health workers Not built to outlaw strike Uh, that seemed, you know, very a little bit undemocratic Uh, because strike has always been, you know, means where Different persons have actually deployed it to to demand, you know, their needs I mean policies and demand good governance and, uh, you know, push their own concerns To government across board That's the way that I can stop anybody from going on strike. There is that a constitutional right That's facing that to agitate to your mind. I think that's all right. So I've been Stubborn of all or you are not getting the necessary Regulation as Agreed then you have the right to go on strike. There is no budget. There's no cut in the land I can't stop anybody from Bring on strike.  That is only way that they can press for their demands and demands On issues concerning the especially when it comes to welfare of workers That is only legitimate way of agitation except you now want them to resort to violence, which is against No man knows and also the constitutional So that's you stop everybody from going on strike. That is not an equal the constitution is very very clear of this And there have been so many judge judgment and co-pronouncement on those issues and that's the fundamental right of every worker And so that is not even a Something to discuss about there is no Every worker has a right to go on strike. But you know that it we're talking about, you know an act of legislation here That's almost, you know Seeing the light of day and what if that becomes a law that you know strike should be outlawed Yes, don't forget that before people anybody it is of that or before any organization or group Go on strike. They have always been negotiation strike is always the last point um At which you work as a Because it is a bit as don't forget that I always the room for negotiations And you know gations in negotiation and rest of it. It is only when that fails That strike begin nobody comes up. No, I've never seen a little labor organization or any organization that comes up And just say we are going on strike. No, it is not done What normally happens is that there will be negotiation After negotiation must have broken down. Then there will be notices They give notices in the next three weeks in the next one month in the next two months If you don't meet our demands aggressive of them, we go on strike. So and that is the number that is number one because so Whether legislation or not as I repeat and I continue to say that is no law that stops any person That stops any work up or going on strike in Nigeria none There is none. So the only the best way to go about it and how why do people go on strike is because most of them are not organizations And government agencies or government goes into negotiation goes into agreement with workers Sign a document sign a contract and at the end of what they fail. It has happened several times Over and over here. We see with asu. We see it NMA. We see it with local government workers We see it with judiciary workers and rest of them at the end of it or that the government or some of these organizations don't meet up to the contract in terms of the contract and that is what needs to Such as strike. So, uh, but if you don't want Such there you have to meet the demands of the Of the workers else as I said strike is always the last option All right, and you also like to share your thoughts on the seated home order that's been enforced in You know inugu and an amber state And the argument surrounding it and some people say it has not yielded any result for the iPop and so a different approach should be taken. However to press forth their demands iPod iPod iPod every time The issue which I the issue is up with iPod is It's multi functional As it were now I think the most critical point in western is now is whether or not Uh, the issue surrounding the continuation of non become Seraphic from the southeast have felt that There's the need for the for the government to just let go and so that there'll be need for Proper negotiation on some of the issues raised by inam de calo and ipod I don't forget to say to me that in an interview Few days ago the president came out to say that there is nothing he's going to do about inam de calo That's two months ago. He's going to go through the means of prosecution and he should be able to defend himself in court that That is office Table now that inam river bet. I know that so many leaders of the southeast and also Hones and people have come out to say that That is not the way to go that the president should have anything Don't don't forget also some months back leaders of Leaders from the southeast met with the president at the villa They think that it should be able to handle the issue of inam de calo With some kind of fatherly based on fatherly role and see whether it can be released but the on a very on a daily basis iPod in itself is thinking it and Of recent if you have a statement coming from ipod is anything to come by Apple is saying by it by every That they will ban or beef or cows Eating of beef or cow meat in the southeast that they will stop movement of cows into the southeast So not that groups are also come out to say that if that would then also they are going to Place ban or goods coming from the southeast into the north. This to me is not the way to go We should be looking for solutions to the problems as it's fair and what we are seeing now is an escalation of crisis both from the iPod and some other This is not the way to go. I think that we can still have a more a robust approach to the issues Stay. Yes. The question we always have always said is that You know, which is I don't believe in ipod or water ban and this kind of thing But most of that now we cannot true the way the video with the With the bad water most of the issues raised by inam de calo is it? Some of this issue is it true and it's true because you're talking of a marginalization Don't forget some people say we are talking about statists saying that they deserve the presidency in 2023 And they believe that all that part of the country should support them That is part of all the free that they have been marginalized Because come to think of it since 1999 the southeast is the only region that have not produced the presidents Is not a produced a president Have produced president In the press papillar agrar the southwest produce A militia go and pass on your the south has south that have produced Good Lord Jonathan, but nothing. Uh, nobody from the south is so some of these are the key allegations being made by agitators from the southeast and I think that should be looked at instead of just sweeping it under the carpet But I think that I will the best to the best way to go about it is for us to have Georgia Discussion on issues of agitation not only the south is but even the south was Don't forget the bohos and the rest of them are also agitating and so we have so much on our table now that Any level of distraction would be not it would not be good for the 90 what we need now is a united force to force To fight the problem we are having which is the problem of insecurity All has must be on deck whether from the north from the south or from anywhere to make sure we have to cut this I'm able to kill this Issue of insecurity that is practically taking over Nigeria that to me should be about All of that level of this should go into the rest of the negotiation and I think we can get it right If we have the best of ways to do that All right, so I'd also like to draw your attention to another you know caption here on the daily independent He says that subsidy removal will help 2022 budget implementation This is according to civil society organization. Do you agree with that ideology? Anybody can come up to say he's a civil society organization. Also, so this chankara Civil society, I don't know. They're not going to decide. I don't know which of them everybody wake up when they say I'm a civil society and Forget this They are just talking for the face of who have been giving so many reasons why How removal of subsidy Can Can help the economy fine I am for removal of subsidy but the fact is that at the end of it or what comes out of it What of them we'll be able to be able to make we'll be able to make Are we going to channel it truly as the program has always told us into capital projects and projects that will benefit Nigeria's That itself has always been an issue and if you say you're removing subsidy Then what is alternative? We are talking of non-Nigerians are going to buy petroleum at 300 and something Don't forget that this is Nigeria that already be overtaxed Even recently just as a few days ago when the minister of finance was talking about issue of start There's some dreams that you are 19. There's going to be tax on more tax on it I'm sure you are aware of that They just came up with that when they call it the carbonate drinks that's going to be taxed We have moved back from 5% to 7.5% on a daily basis the bank are charging us Charging us there's that so many other taxes are called like this. So Removal of subsidy I have we've said the time and time on it is not removal of subsidy On petroleum that is the problem. We find that The fact is that we have to make a reverse to work. We must stop the importation of fuel no matter what the buy is if you remove subsidy The problem we got to in as much as we continue to import fuel the prices of this product will continue to go So the promises made to Nigeria's in 2015 by this current government This ad going I call it the ad going government because they practically had about seven years and just have barely one year to go Is that they're going to revive and use so many requirements that The other people will not be voting for us But what we over 95% if not 100% of the fuel that we consume and people will consume in Nigeria I bought it and that is the reason why we have these high prices We it is only Nigeria that is a country that produces food or you a sport food or you and not buy petroleum No other country in the world even within a peck does that and that is where the problem is So if you continue to say oh, we will remove Sources the on petroleum. We are going to channel it this thing into Other sectors and rest of them. I don't believe that I don't believe in that analogy because even if you remove subsidy tomorrow They have to come up with something so but I don't so for me forget all this wannabe Society for whatever they call them. I don't think they have a person just for Nigeria They should be telling us the alternative for us. They should be telling us what we should be telling the government what I'm not just adding Added to the talk and saying that we need to use so I see if we seem to remove subsidy. That is the end of the book That is not the end of the problem All right on the punch. You also have the value currency father raise interest rates IMF tells Nigeria and others well We always are the begger called off IMF and the workman. They tell me what happens when economy and rest of them But why we're always having so much uh What I would say that so much so and we cannot be able to arrest the issue of the devaluation and probably from there we are having with the The dollar is because we are not exporting more We are a dependent but dependent country and when you continue to depend on potential that is what happens You cannot have a control over your own chorus because if you are exporting more you are exporting enough Then you also be making foreign exchange that in this time we bring down The capacity of your own bet as of as of few days ago In the local market the dollar is going for over five five five hundred and fifty four hundred and fifty nine to a dollar that is on a high size The official market is about four hundred something but I mean we could have the opportunity of what we need to do is to create A not avenue for exporting. We should create be more creative In our economy. We have talked about the issue of a agriculture We have talked the issue of mining these are other sectors. We're even IT Most countries live on IT There is a that's what that's what they live on a country like india A country like china I still think that we can do a lot in that bet Once we continue continue importing and importing and importing That is going to be the problem and it will continue to have a college Listen on on our currency and don't forget that we practically come to a growing country on a daily basis We are going to china and they have cost to borrow money And that is not investable if you put a country that goes anybody that goes the program goes are so wrong So we are the pecker call of some of these countries that we practically go to On our needs every the pegging for money instead of looking for ways of I believe and that's the thing that this government Has the capacity we have enough ideas that can have the capacity to think out of the boss And we go to revive this economy turn around this economy Bet we play politics with everything. You don't have to come from game Of course, I just did it in 1999 by bringing so many technocrats. Somebody like okonjewana Uh People like eruphi who was in charge of we are not members of PD They just they are technocrats which were brought into government and you saw what they did By the time the government of a passenger was leaving we were practically paid off all our foreign debt And we had nothing but what have we happened now? We just have yes, man and party can be a pointer who don't know they are left on the right And the economies continue to lose that as we are having it well, but What would be the implication if you know, we have to pay attention to the advice of the mif i mean the International monetary fund that's the imf right now And you also mentioned the fact that We are constantly at the messy of the international monetary fund. Now. What's that? It's not today. I may have been telling us it's don't forget that Yes, but remember what it is of sap Uh, if you remember the day of structure adjustment program in those days, it was an imf policy ims we always go to developing countries and be able to give all sorts of Monetary advices are there i mf cannot open his mouth and tell russia or united states of america what to do Because these are strong economies. They cannot they cannot go to a price. They cannot go to germany I'll tell them what they cannot tell china what to do It's only developing countries like ours that are dependent at bigger nations that i am who are leading That we must always find a home group solution to our economic problems and not what i am able to work on tells us That is my that is what i'm saying. We must find a home group problem solution to our problem We cannot be waiting on i mf on the daily basis to tell us what to do. Are we saying that? Don't forget that you are talking of i mf or work on in idea was the former president Um, this thing of a work bank. Don't forget that In the country while at once was in the work bank and the end of work bank Our own Was a name I just got a name now was also the work bank as the vice president at one point Obviously it's a facility the fact i'm trying to say is that onto record who going to start off always depending on foreign rules on foreign debt are not really Um, you didn't enough capacity Economically in nigeria to be able to empower herself and be able to handle ourselves Then we come to ruby because they know you always come around to borrow from i mf. They know you come Broke from work bank and when you go borrow it They are going to give you the time it's just like asking for a bank loan If you go to a bank to borrow money to be asked not only collabs But the bank also wants to tell you what to do with the money you have borrowed So that is the problem we are having so i mf we always come A work bank will use come to tell us what a bet are those money to policies physical or whatever policies are they good enough for the country as he could have Nigeria as he work for us it has no work So what we need to do is build up our capacity look at our economy transform our economy make ourselves He put ourselves in a position where we don't need to wait for anybody to tell us what to do But if we continue to wait on them depend on the i mf and work back for our survivor Whatever they give us we have no option than to take it Oh, well, thank you so much chris one do for being part of the conversation this morning We really do appreciate your time and your thoughts on this issues. We look forward to having more of you Thank you very much for having me and you having nice All right you too Well, that's the much we can take on off the press this morning when we come through We will head straight to our first major conversation Where we will be looking at the cyber attack on the national identity management commission that has cost Allegedly cost over three million national identity cards of Nigerians. Please stick around


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And that gentlemen is my strategy to make it through this compound without alerting a single guard Assassinate our target and escape unscathed any questions. That's beautiful man. That's I'm impressed. Thank you The efficiency is really there solid super streamlined. Thank you. Yes really took a lot of contingencies into account I get the punch guys. I really appreciate that. I just have one question Yeah, and that's just like when do we blow everything up? Well, it's an assassination So after I didn't plan to blow up anything actually. Oh That's a way that's a way to do it certainly. I mean that's very dope. Yeah, awful just a bad idea I just thought we could be more tactical this time. Look, it's not your fault. It's a common pitfall there I ask what would you do differently bombs?  How like what are you gonna blow up with anything? There's but there everything explodes there. Look, you guys asked me to make the plan Okay, I am more of a sneaky tactics kind of guy. You've got bigger guns than me He can punch through walls. Have you seen them? It's insane. Yeah, I don't need y'all These are the only things that I do look you can do all the tactics you want right You can set up a perfectly lifelike mannequin in the middle of battle that will definitely distract everybody and people will Definitely think that it's you and they'll shoot at that mannequin, but you know, what's better than that at the end of the day?  It was dying assassination complete. They're distracted. They're screaming more fire more fun Look at me.  What if they don't even have explosives lying around? All right, look, I'm sorry you put a lot of work into this and we we'd be happy to try it your way Seriously, yeah, that'd be awesome Who knows maybe quietly and painstakingly taking out each individual guard is a better tactic than Reigning white-hot death upon them all who's to say about if they summon a bunch of ghosts and we'll blow everything up You can get paradoxes new game the lamp lighters league using our link in the description below It's a 1930s adventure themed turn-based combat game with a focus on stealth and preparation Thank you for watching. Hope you enjoyed it and I'll be back next week with another paradox video And then a third one after that. This is gonna be a busy month