Social anxiety is absolutely brutal to live with but can this unconventional book help you out with your social anxiety? Stay tuned as we discuss. What is up everybody this is Chris from the Rewired Soul where we talk about the problem but focus on the solution and today's problem is social anxiety and I haven't done a book review in a really really long time I've been kind of just not even really slacking I've just been like picking up books and going through them and not finishing them all the way because they get kind of and all this other stuff but I'm back and I'm going to be doing some book reviews like the book reading is reignited in me so like this book is going to surprise you but first let me preface this by talking about my history with social anxiety like so many people who meet me like they're so shocked when I tell them that I used to have social anxiety like I did it was brutal my brain was constantly going a million miles a minute I was so concerned about what I was doing what I was saying what I was thinking what you were looking at and all these other things I was trying to read you and I didn't know if I was making you uncomfortable and all sorts of stuff like I was always worried about saying something I might offend or make somebody uncomfortable like I was just extremely socially awkward and like it made me fumble over my words even more which made it even more awkward and it was just terrible it was so terrible and like I just couldn't talk to people unless they were somebody like that I really really knew and if you're socially anxious you know exactly what I mean so what I try to do when I read books no matter what book it is like I try to see what we can learn from it and most of the books I do read are mental health books and this book has actually been on my list for a while but I haven't picked it up because it's not really a mental health book but I'm like you know I bet this book might be able to help people who are socially anxious and it's interesting because I don't think a lot of people with social anxiety would actually pick up this book if they saw it in a bookstore or on audible or amazon or kindle or whatever it is like they might not pick it up but it's actually really good so I'll be honest with you I'm only three chapters in and I'm like yo everybody who subscribes to my channel who has social anxiety needs to read this book now you're asking me Chris what book are you talking about what book is it well it is called what everybody is saying by Joe Navarro all right so I listen to all my books on audible I just listen while I'm driving to work or if I'm doing some like tedious tasks at work I just have an audio book playing and like so just to preface this book so this guy Joe Navarro he is an ex FBI agent and he was one of the best and the reason why he was one of the best is because he's amazing at reading body language so this book actually blends in neuroscience with the science of body language so they that's something that really sold me on this book those of you who have been around for a while I'm really into neuroscience like understanding how the brain works really helps with understanding how we behave and how we think and the way we do things in our mental health and all that kind of stuff so here's the thing when it comes to social anxiety a lot of it is this concern that we don't know what people are thinking what's going through their mind but think about it for a second if we could better understand a person's body language and what certain things meant then we could know if if this person's enjoying the conversation if they're trying to get out of this conversation it's they're uncomfortable if they're nervous like we can read all these different things and that's just absolutely amazing so I'm just going to give a few little things that's in this book so far but I'm only about three chapters in and I'm hustling through it because I actually joined this like book club with some buddies who I play fortnight with and like I was super excited when they told me they were reading this book I'm like yo I need to get this book I want to join your book club because not many of my friends read you know what I mean so I'm glad that I get to like talk and discuss this stuff with other people besides you I love you but I need like some more human interaction so anyways the book kind of starts off with and it goes through kind of like a curriculum of what this book's going to be about but throughout it like Joe Navarro he kind of gives some examples of these different cases he worked and things that he learned and all sorts of stuff and kind of like his childhood and why he became fascinated with understanding body language because he actually came from another country and didn't speak English so he had to learn how to read body language to know if people liked him or didn't like him and this kind of helped him out before he learned English so then like one of the first chapters I think it's chapter two they start to talk about the limbic system and the prefrontal cortex and things like that so the limbic system that is your most primitive part of the brain it is the strongest part of the brain is your emotional part of the brain right so like he talks about how you can't always believe what's coming out of somebody's mouth or like their facial expressions because like they're actually not a good indicator you have to look at other cues on their body which I'll talk about in a second and like for me personally like this book is kind of sold to people like you know when you're talking to your boss you're talking to a customer or you're talking to a client or you're talking to a loved one or you're talking to your kids but like for me I'm like man this could really help with social anxiety you know what I mean so understanding these things so one of the great things that I really want to make some dedicated videos to this is one of the first things it does it talks about pacifying behavior okay these are things that we do unconsciously that calm us down okay so some people might rub the skin right below their neck or they might rub their neck like this because these are actually filled with a lot of nerves and it releases calming neurotransmitters in your body so it actually calms you down it soothes you okay so I want to make some more videos on that because if you're somebody who just gets anxious or stressed there's some points on your body that you can touch that actually calm you down so you can do it more deliberately so this next chapter I'm on he he talks in an earlier chapter about like what do you think the most telling part of the body is and a lot of people would say face and things like that but if that was the truth then why would poker face even be a thing so the feet are actually the best indicator for this and this is something I heard a very long time ago and it's something that I noticed I even noticed myself doing it so just some quick examples if somebody has their feet turned towards the door or towards an exit this means that they're either a uncomfortable or they're in a hurry or they want to leave okay because that's just our natural fight-or-flight instincts okay so like when when we get in these situations like our feet they're prepared to do something okay then it also talks about how having a wider stance is more confrontational so he discusses about how to kind of diffuse a situation to make sure that your legs are together because even on an unconscious level if you're if you have a wider stance and you're like kind of in a heated argument with somebody they're getting more prepared to attack back right even if it's verbally okay so it also talks about other things about how when you cross your legs you feel really comfortable and the reason this is is is because the brain is not preparing you to leave so when you cross your legs you're actually off balance so if somebody's crossing their legs near you whether it's you know one leg over the other and in their lap or if it's just crossing their ankles okay because their center of gravity changes so this means they're very comfortable so their brain's not telling them hey you might need to get out of this situation so like I find this very very useful when like having conversations with other people noticing what their hands are doing their arms are doing like there's one part where it talks about if somebody's cupping their elbow this is also something that means that they're uncomfortable and if they move their hand this means that they're starting to relax so there's a lot of great tips in here and I really hope that some of you read it like the more you understand about the brain and what we do the more you will improve your mental health one of the reasons my mental health is so much better these days is because I educate myself about this I'm going to link a video up in the info card about something called the brain mechanic okay the more you understand about your brain the better you'll be able to handle a variety of different situations whether it's anxiety depression and things like that but I really like this book because it's how to tell if other people are uncomfortable or confrontational and all that kind of good stuff so if you want to join me on this journey and read this book I'm gonna put a link down in the description below that's an affiliate link so if you're interested in it go ahead and buy it from our amazon it doesn't cost you anything and it helps support the channel but I would love for you to read this book check it out and tell me your thoughts on it and then maybe I'll do a full book review after I'm done with it all right but anyways that's all I got for you today so if you like this video please give it a thumbs up and if you're new here I'm always making videos to help you out with your mental and emotional well-being go ahead and click that little round subscribe button and a huge thank you to everybody supporting the channel over on patreon I love you guys all right if you want to 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Howdy, my name is Kase. So as mentioned, this is about Setcomp, which is not an LSM, and all the small LSMs. There's going to be a little bit of background to distinguish these, the two, and I'll get into a quick overview of Loadpin, and Yama, and finally Setcomp, which is a bit more complex than the others. So as you've already seen, there's a bunch of the larger LSMs that exist in the kernel. And the way I sort of look at it is they have, you know, a comprehensive policy, their full-blown mandatory access control systems. They mediate all kinds of different things, files, networks, et cetera. And the small or minor LSMs have a really, really narrow policy, they're usually a fixed policy. So the first of these is Loadpin. Easy to turn on. So the main use for Loadpin is if you have, if you think module sigforce, which is your resulting kernel will only load modules that have been cryptographically signed, it will refuse to load anything else. If you feel that that is redundant in your environment, Loadpin is for you. The idea being that if you already have a trusted file system that you've cryptographically signed all the way down from your, you know, root of trust, you have all the bells and whistles that you've heard about in some of the other presentations, you know, with various signing and other things, you probably don't need the kernel to have, you know, you don't need to waste the storage space of signatures on the modules and waste the CPU space of checking the signature on the thing you already checked at a file system level is correct. And so Loadpin simply makes sure that what you're loading from on the kernel side actually came from the file system you have cryptographically been checking in some way. Chrome OS uses this with DM Verity because DM Verity has already done the block-level analysis to say that everything's okay. And the benefit of having this as an LSM hook is you actually Loadpin can check things beyond just modules. There's a lot of other stuff that the kernel reads out of file systems that it uses for its own purpose. For example, you know, K-executing to an entirely other kernel, loading firmware into various things, security policies, certificates, there's a whole bunch of stuff that the kernel uses for itself that it gets off of a file system. So there's no reason to do a verification, you know, do an additional signature check when you may have already done that in the past already. Loadpin is pretty stable, perhaps because only Chrome OS is using it. I'm not sure. I haven't heard from any other people. Having been pretty stable, I poked a couple things into for 4.20. As part of some of the stacking work that Casey talked about, it became obvious that there was some terminology confusion in Loadpin. As Loadpin was always enabled, it just wasn't paying attention. So it was doing some tracking in the background. It was the idea of enforcement versus enabling. So I borrowed the enforced terminology. And then I finally got frustrated enough with some of the error reporting on it that I went and made sure to figure out how to get a readable, you know, human readable device names out of the reporting. So a quick demo that has lost all of its colors. What in the world? One second. No, they're here. It's in the preview, and now it's gone.  Hold on one second. I'm going to see if I can figure out how to fix this in a different way. Like I'm not crazy, right? You can see. Yeah, those colors are there. This is great. I had to update this morning for that. I know what I'm going to do. Yep. I'll use my own link. I don't want to read from there. Hold on. Sorry. Is there a present mode? I'll get to do this blind. This is going to be awesome. Yeah, I know, but that's really small and far away. Don't want you. Yeah, I'm sort of there. Okay. It is really helpful to be able to see. Okay, load pin demo. Back to this. This is a quick view of, say, slash temp in red and slash trusted, which let's say you've been cryptography checking and you go and do an ins mod on some module out of trusted. And if you look at the dmessage output, this one happens to say, hey, it turns out the backing device for this file system is in fact writable. So I'm not even going to pretend that this is an enforceable situation. But for testing, sure, we'll pretend that it's loadable, but you can turn this on and off. The idea being that you can do a testing of your load pin stuff in an environment that's writable. But once you actually have a read-only backing block device, it will not print that out. So then it reports in yellow what type of thing it's trying to load and says, yay, I have pinned this module. I'm now going to trust trusted. And then you can unload the module and then you're going to reinsert another module out of slash temp. It says that kernel module has been denied out of temp. I don't like you.  I have no idea how to find it again. So I'm never going to let you load anything else again. Anyway, that's sort of the rundown on easy load pin things. Yama, this was the first of the stacked LSMs. So sorry, not sorry. And it narrows the scope of the P-trace access checks that were in the kernel because it used to be quite a wide open thing. You could just P-trace anything as your user ID. The basic goal here was to increase the amount of time it would be necessary for someone who has broken into your device to steal all your stuff. Because if you have password protected things, someone's going to try to drop malware so that you would run, you're going to run GPG or something and they had replaced your GPG, but they have to wait for you to actually do those things to get at your credentials. Whereas if they can break in and P-trace everything on your system, they can pull credentials out of running programs, they can attach to your SSH tunnels and jump down to the next machine that you happen to be on. The P-trace is kind of scary in that you could just do anything as that user and expand the scope of your attack immediately without having to wait for a moment when you would take advantage of some user action. You would trick someone into doing something. So it's certainly not a silver bullet, but it does change the access controls on how that's supposed to look. This is also pretty stable and most distros are using it and of course I had to write that and Syscaller who has been running for, I don't know, how many hundreds of thousands of hours in various places just sent one bug that it hasn't been able to reproduce in four days. So there may be an RCU bug in here and a couple people are helping me look at it. And I may have some future work cut out for me because Jan Horne, who likes breaking the world, has started looking at Yama. So demo here, again, colors are very important. So as I said before, before Yama with standard DAC access checks on P-trace, if you are the blue evil attacker, you can get at anything that is the same user ID. This is sort of an example LS tree output. So the first two are UID root and then everything else is me. So as that attacking process, it could P-trace into anything owned by me, short of things that had explicitly made themselves undumpable, but very few things do that. This isn't great because it can go jump around and pull things out of secret and not so great. Now of course with DAC, it can't go read system D or some other user stuff. So with Yama, all that goes away, can't get into anything because the check that the P-trace Yama will do now, as it says, all right, let's look at secret and I'll walk up the ancestry tree. I'll say, okay, is Bash trying to P-trace me? No. Is system D trying to P-trace me? No. Okay, I'm not going to let this happen. However, this continues to work in situations where you're debugging stuff. GDB launches some program and says I want to P-trace that program and Yama starts walking up the ancestry tree and says, is GDB my parent? Oh yes, I am. Okay, this is allowed. But this situation would break crash handlers because you'd start some program, say Chrome, it would crash and then the crash handler would actually fork and exec a handler to deal with it and connect back, which would break because Yama would walk up the ancestry tree and say, is the crash handler part an ancestor of mine? No, it's not Bash, it's not system D in this example. So that wasn't great. So we had to add some whitelisting that the crashing program could declare just as it's beginning to die. Wait, wait, this guy just forked. I want that to be able to P-trace me. So you declare a whitelist and then the crash handler would sort of be implicitly part of your ancestry tree that was doing the checking. And there's SecComp. So this is not an LSM. LSM is, as discussed earlier, are sort of hooks into the kernel in lots of stable places where you have access to all the resources you want to be checking. It doesn't cover all CISC calls because not all the things you want to mediate from an LSM are available there. But there's a lot of things you don't necessarily want programs to be running, so there needed to be a way to filter at the system call level. One problem with this, of course, is you could, you know, if as a malicious person trying to trick a setUID program into doing something dumb, you could, for example, convince it that some program had in fact successfully dropped its privileges when it didn't. So if you were able to filter a setUID program, you could convince it to do bad things. So no new privs, the no new privs bit was invented to say, well, if you try to exec something with a filter, you know, with no new privs set up, you can't actually get it to be setUID. So you have to either be an admin or set no new privs so you can't actually trick anything into doing this. So that was a problem with SecComp very early on in the design that got added that's used pretty widely with SecComp. So this is in all kinds of things. I went and looked at another list and was terrified to see how much stuff is using SecComp a lot. But it's pretty easy to add. So the examples I'll be using are with MiniJail, which was built for Chrome OS, but we use it in Android now on a lot of things. And it's sort of a collection of all the different container options you can pick and choose. But if you're going to do normal filtering, I strongly recommend LibSepComp. Makes things a lot easier. And if you want to do really special things, you probably need to learn BPF. And I note that this is actually a subset of classic BPF. It's the SecComp portion. And it's definitely not EBPF yet. But the link off here is for Michael Karris. Great presentation he did a couple of days ago. He gets really into a lot of the details. So the basic bit of SecComp is the BPF is a Berkeley packet filter that was trying to sort of have a way to look at packets in memory in the kernel. So there's this idea of, hey, I'm getting off cycle a little bit. Okay, it was looking at a linear bit of memory. So instead of looking at a packet, you can instead look at the details for a syscall, which system call number it is, what architecture it is, instruction pointer, and the basic arguments. And you can't actually read the memory that any of these arguments might be pointing to because you would be later racing the kernel who would try to copy that same memory out. So there's sort of a standing problem with that. So SecComp only looks at the actual pointer values. Once you make the matches you want, you can actually spit out a lot of different things for the filter to do. The most severe thing lower on the list is what will win if there's multiple filters running against the syscall. So either you can allow it, you can log it, you can trace it. If you have a ptrace manager for the process, you can have the syscall get skipped and fake an error for it. You could use that on open instead of killing the process. You would say, oh, that file is just not available and the program will continue running. Trap is to actually deliver a catchable SIG-SYS signal. If you want something, if you want the program to deal with it in some way.   Recent developments, Tyco has been working tirelessly to get user notification in. There's sort of a problem with the trace return here in that you may have a manager say inside, say someone's running GDB or you're running a different net or something that's using ptrace to do normal operations and you want to use this for a container or some other situation. You can't really do a trace because it would be already being traced, but you still want to get information out of filters and sort of block and do things. So trying to get away from using ptrace to get notifications about when things are happening at a sec comp. At the very least, we know the things it won't be. That's what we've got out of the discussions. But I think there's more to happen there. And for quick demo across a couple pages, I'm gonna try to slightly get this lined up. No, never mind. So I'm using MiniGL as a demo quickly. What it's got here is dash s I mentioned earlier is for specifying a second policy. And that's in some file called cat.policy. And we're gonna just run the program cat to print out the policy. So I can have a self-documenting demo. And this fails immediately. Okay, I got a Singapore out of it. Why you go look at syslog? Cuz that's where MiniGL puts its information and says, okay, some permission denied. What error code is that? Let's go look at the man page for sec comp. Error access says either I need to be cap sys admin or use or set no new privs. Well, I'm not cap sys admin here. Is there a way in MiniGL to get to new set no new privs? Yes, it's minus n. So okay, I need to add minus n. Now it'll run. And this is a basic policy of the minimum set of sys calls needed to have cat actually run. You need to open at and fstat, mmap. You can read all those. But I mean, they're a relatively basic set of sys calls to look at a file, open it, print it out, and close stuff and clean up. Now if I change a little piece of this, and for the open at, instead of saying it's allowed with the one that's on here, I can actually say have it return Ian Val. So this is the return Erno piece. And I run it with that policy and you can see immediately that it tries to go along, do its job, hits the open and the second policy gets in the way and says, no, that's invalid, matching what I asked it to return with. So okay, what if we wanna change what we're running? What if I wanna run LS on this file? What happens? Okay, so I get another error and I gotta look in sys log again and it says okay, I died with signal 31. Okay, yes, that's sig sys. It was killed because it ran some other new thing. How do I figure out what system call it was actually using? Let's use strace and I see it starts to try to run IO control and is immediately killed by sig sys. It's like okay, I'll just add IO control and I can get fancy now and actually check arguments. And I say I want the first argument to be matching what's here for my standard in, out, out. And you just sort of repeat this cycle until you get all the sys calls that you think you're gonna need for your program. This is the basic way to go through it. That's it, those are the three. So yeah, catch us up on time a little bit. Questions? Is it a question? Could you say something again about the race that you said about the referencing the pointers? Yes, so here I'll go back up. So what you get in this, so for example, let's say you've got a management process that's watching some set cop program and you get a ptrace trap out of it. You're just like okay, I wanna look at this open and I wanna figure out what file it's actually asking to be open. So you look at the argument for it and you say okay, the first argument is the pointer into the user space memory of this process. And I'm gonna go look at what file it is and says, I wanna open Varlog syslog. You say okay, yes, I approve of that. Let's go ahead and let it continue and you release the process. And right after you release it, some other thread of the process, some other malicious thread has been sitting there waiting for some signal and it quickly changes what was written at that location. And then you hit the kernel and the kernel goes and reads out that memory out of the user space memory again. And it's completely different. So it's a total bypass, a relatively easy total bypass of any kind of intercepting those things. To fix this requires either interaction with the LSM layer to get it the information once it's been processed by the kernel. And that's sort of what Landlock LSM is looking to do, because you can have a programmatic way to describe an LSM policy. Because right now most LSM, like the large LSM policies are defined by the systems administrator, not by the authors of a program. The other way to solve this is to completely rearchitect how the kernel processes arguments, which maybe will happen. It would be an interesting defense against some aspects of cache timing attacks and other things. But it would be a lot of work to have effectively a cache of the memory you want to read out of user space. You sort of declare, I want to be doing these things. These are what these arguments would mean. And in a normal sys call, the kernel would go off and say, I don't have a cache of this yet. I'll go copy it into my memory and then I'll use it. And if you had seccomp in between here, it would go do that copying first. And then if you continued the sys call, it would use the cache copy. So it's an idea to try to minimize the race or eliminate the race for that kind of thing. More questions, if not, let's thank speaker. All right, thanks.


Osteocondritis disiccans, or OCD, is a joint condition in which a focal area of subchondral bone and cartilage becomes unhealthy and risks separation from the surrounding bone and joint surface. Most often observed in the needs of children and adolescents, this condition can result in knee pain, swelling, and instability that can, in turn, lead to premature osteoarthritis. The more common, early form of the condition is referred to as stable OCD. Nonoperative treatment is the standard of care in patients with stable OCD and open growth plates. It's estimated that up to 43% of these patients will ultimately require surgical intervention. A recent study compared the two drilling techniques typically used to treat stable OCD, transarticular drilling, and retroarticular drilling. The findings reported in the American Journal of Sports Medicine indicate that while outcomes were similar between the two techniques, two years after surgery, transarticular drilling produced more advanced signs of healing in the shorter term and allowed for quicker return to sports for patients. As their names suggest, transarticular and retroarticular drilling differ in how they approach an OCD lesion with respect to the articular cartilage of the knee. The transarticular approach passes through the cartilage to reach the site of the injury. Meanwhile, the retroarticular approach passes through the back side of the bone to avoid damaging the cartilage that overlies an OCD lesion. In a first, researchers compared the drilling techniques through a randomized controlled trial of 91 skeletally immature patients between the ages of 9 and 15. 51 patients who underwent transarticular drilling and 40 who underwent retroarticular drilling were included in the final analysis. In terms of surgical characteristics, performing the transarticular approach proved to be less time consuming. Both tourniquet time and fluoroscopy time were significantly shorter than for the retroarticular approach. With respect to time required to return to sports, transarticular drilling again proved speedier. On average, patients in the transarticular group were cleared to return to sports at 4.1 months, while those in the retroarticular group were cleared at 5.8 months. A similar advantage was observed in healing parameters measured by radiographic imaging. At 6 and 12 months, patients in the transarticular group showed better median ossification and boundary scores than those in the retroarticular group. Interestingly, however, these differences did not persist at the two-year follow-up. In addition, the two groups reported similar scores on four different patient-reported outcome measures at 6, 12, and 24 months, suggesting that both techniques were effective in restoring normal knee function and activity levels. The two-year follow-up period could be interpreted as one limitation of this study, as this did not allow for the assessment of long-term joint health, possible late-stage OCD recurrence, or the eventual onset of degenerative joint disease. But for many young athletes today, the faster short-term healing observed for transarticular drilling could be meaningful. More work is needed to explore the factors that might contribute to this faster healing and determine the best overall approach to treating young patients with OCD.


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This is the needed podcast episode 38 I took a week off my first week off since we actually started this up and This is definitely going to be a one to get back We got two weeks into the real madden comes out the real man season the one we've been waiting for The one that we all put our time into we're all excited about I know a lot of talk on Twitter between the ratings and then at a day it is great News for Madden it's great having everybody talk about it Not only the players but also all the NFL players talking about their ratings and so on and so forth and we're going to get into all that and a little bit but first man what I really want to talk about is obviously um Not obviously, but I do want to talk about Siebu man I know she was been on a lot of my content a lot of my things but he lost his father this last week or two weeks ago whatever it may be and You know, I just want you guys to be there for him because I know it's rough And I know one thing I learned this last year is that The man community is a huge support system and I have reached out to Siebu a bunch of times I know he's going through a lot and it's obviously a friend of all of ours and definitely a friend of mine so Here's his link I'm gonna put his link in the chat to his Twitter man But seriously you go to reach out the woof send him a DM a message even like his tweet No matter what man no way at what time you will go through in life When you see even people you never met showing you support man It means a lot and might not might not mean a lot to him today or tomorrow Well, but maybe a month from now a year from now. He reads some in my reach out man I really definitely uh, that's my friend and it hurts when you see your friends go through some things So definitely always want to be there for each other in times of need like that So that means a lot to me man, and you know, definitely some things going around but like I said man It's been a rough year, but we definitely learned that this is a really strong support system man We can definitely start Reach out the woof show him some show him some love But like I said hit the like button subscribe. This is episode number 38 man Ratings were the story this year or today or this week. That's all I heard about man. It's all I heard about What NFL player thought they were too slow What NFL player thought they should be better and honestly every NFL player probably thinks they should be about a 99 You know, I mean, I probably if I was an NFL I would probably think I would want to be a 99 I would think that's kind of where I would be at You know, that's kind of what I would do and this is kind of what some of the things that that that went on on Twitter I know you guys file that's a lot, but everybody was pretty much upset I don't think anybody can now is probably the most Complained about his ratings as you guys saw that but it's just I'm gonna talk about why these ratings are a little bit different this year as we see the wide receivers Which I'm really I don't know if Antonia Listen, I'm not really mad at any of these. I think these are the five best wide receivers in football I think we I think all in all we should agree on that chat Let me know if I'm lying, but I feel like these are the top five receivers Well, no matter what order you want to put it in then I think this list is pretty good as far as wide receivers concerned You know, that's how I feel The eagles are better than cowboys the eagles are actually the highest rated team, which is obviously great news for all of us The last thing the quarterback rate the quarterback list Was a little bit crazy And and this isn't really the highest quarterback list, I wish like this one was the one that pretty much got the most Critiquing I guess because it showed everybody and some of the problems that we have with it in this quarterback the quarterback thing is pretty much the biggest deal, you know because This is where I saw most people complaining was the quarterback ratings and for me when I look at the quarterback ratings We see rivers of 94 and Rogers of 90 I think we agree Well, if we flip those numbers the list would be a little bit better if Rogers had the 94 rivers had the 90 I think that list would look a lot better now. Tell me if I'm wrong chat YouTube. Tell me if I'm wrong I think if Rogers was 94 rivers was 90 this list would look a lot better You know, I think that's pretty decent You know, and then we look at the rest. I'm pretty cool. And then if I come down here I would switch Cam and wence Or I would give one to 84 wence is better than these these guys right here But he's not I don't think he's a 80 if Ben's 85 I can see once around 85 Other than that chat, I'm really not upset about it and Stafford's probably a little bit better than Dalton in car and Cousins Stafford could be a 82, you know, I Don't I'm not mad at where Ryan. I'm not really mad at where anybody else is Trabisky honestly probably got the biggest holes at everybody cuz I'm taking a chat. I don't care Listen every day of the week and two times on Sunday. I'm taking Mitchell Trabisky over James Winston over Lamar Jackson I'm probably taking Trabisky. Man over Dalton. I don't know falls obviously should be like a 99, but You know, I don't think Matt Ryan should be hired in 89. I think that's a pretty good number I said if we switch rivers and and Rogers, I think this list would be pretty good really You know, that's pretty good I don't really know what any of these other ones are, you know, I mean Then you know what and look at all these bad ratings things. I Don't really know whether this I saw Sherman is like the third best corner, which was pretty crazy Yeah, for Richard Sherman to be the third best corner NFL right now was a little bit crazy chat but I said it's really cool having everybody talk about this type of stuff and really Be engaged and being the arguments and really get everybody talking about man, and it's crazy Because we're probably not everyone will play rags the first month But most of the people they're not gonna play rags and you guys know they're not gonna play rags You know that that's pretty much but it gives everybody something to talk about and the NFL is talking about man So as much as men the NFL The NFL the more NFL talk about man more maybe the more they get involved in some of these tournaments and really Start pushing this e-sport man thing and that's ultimately the goal man So like I said, we switched Rodgers and Rivers. I think the quarterback list is pretty good Sherman being a top corner back is pretty crazy But ultimately they told us early in the year early in the summer We're gonna change the ratings and why are we gonna change range? We're gonna have a bigger gap in ratings And why you say why do they do this? And for me, it's all about Expanding the amount of time they can sell the muck cards You know because we can really think about this year one of the biggest flaws in mutt not for us But for them was that everybody had 99 speed probably in February or January really and If they start the ratings a little lower if they start people with you know, 81 catching trafing instead of 89 Notting to sell that many more promotions Which I mean will probably mean Buying more packs, but at the same time people get upset that they don't put out enough content So by changing these ratings I think it gives them so much more opportunity to put out more content put out more past put out more promotions Which is a good thing But they could ultimately make them more money through mutt and it could make us spend more money or you know Spend more of our coins and everything and I think ultimately that is why they chose to start these ratings so low and you know start people with you know Average ratings pretty much everybody has average ratings and we already know How mutt has been the last two years where if the Andre Hopkins starts with 90 speed his base muck card I'm gonna have 84 speed. That's pretty much how it works You know, then that that's how it goes. Shout a cake dance The running bet my opinion caring players caring about ratings. I would want my rating to be higher. I don't know I Think I'm not an NFL player I care I guarantee I care more about man in the NFL players because it is my job. It's my passion But I don't know if I don't know if it's anything I compared to my life to look and say I care about my madding rating is Cuz if you put dubby if I all of a sudden just just you know Just became a super athlete overnight Like I said a prayer and woke up the next day and the Lord blessed me with just being a super athlete And I made that and I was on NFL roster tomorrow I will look at my rating because I know Madden then the next week I would look at what got upgraded if I had a good week I would look at my upgrades I would because I know Madden Do any of these guys really do that? I'm I don't know I need to run. I didn't see the running back list The running back list is bad. I'm not sure. I didn't really see the running back list But you know, I for me the best running back is probably Barkley really. I mean Barkley and then Who else where we go? Oh, here we go Here's a list. I don't know if this is this is just the top seven Girlie Elliot Bell Gordon Barkley McCaffrey It's not bad. I mean say quad 91. I would take bar. I mean I would probably take Barkley is no one running back, but he's still just a second-year player So it's hard to give him like a 99 Girlie after the Super Bowl after the playoffs man that it's hard to see him as the best running back I'm listen as much as I hate the Cowboys. I think Ezekiel Elliott is fabulous I really do. So I'm not mad at all with 94. I think he's on the grill Elliott. I really do Bell hasn't played and that's the same thing. Bell didn't play all last year. Barkley was a dog last year So I would probably have Barkley over levy on bell right now And I would definitely have Barkley over Melvin Gordon. Although Melvin Gordon was good Had him on the fantasy program last year bought out Uh, McCaffrey Kamara similar players really I mean the biggest difference from McCaffrey and Kamara if McCaffrey was with Sean Peyton And uh, Drew Brees Jesus He would be unreal, but even though he was unreal with Kam and they're all fun. So Uh, this list I'm I'm not terribly upset with this. I don't know what this is I I think Roger's getting robbed was a little bit worse than Saquon Barkley really But who knows what do you guys think you two tell me who the best running backs are who you would rank the top five Honestly, it's hard for me to put anybody over le I'm a big Ezekiel Elliott fan not fan, but I respect Ezekiel Elliott You know what I mean? Like you I'm never Obviously, I can't root for Ezekiel Elliott, but I respect him. I think he's really good And we'll see what happens this year really that's that's pretty much what just want to come down to But I said like I said start I feel like they start the ratings low They start all that stuff low so they could boost up the cards And have a longer season from mutt because I don't know about you guys But mutt once everybody got 90 on speed. I feel like everybody was the same player You know, you'll never open a pack to get plus one play recognition Or get plus one hit power plus one zone You'll never open a pack for that if you get a faster player You'll definitely start opening packs and in fact everybody was 99 speed that early in the game I think that hurt them and one thing I hope they do is not have any type of chemistry that can boost your speed I I don't know why that's ever a good idea. You know, I just I think it really made the game I don't want to say it hurt the game, but everybody being that fast that quick was Terrible. Yeah, so Honestly, yeah mad in september october August and right now is august they push this release date up up up up make it sooner sooner sooner That's good because remember man madden they used to come out to like the end of august And they would have ncaa from like july to august. We had our one month of ncaa then we would play mad But I mean like I said, it's all good. Everybody's talking about the ratings. I'm excited about it. That's going to be dope My next top I want to get to is pretty much the tip sites Lot of news a lot of people opening tip sites A lot of people starting things up. Obviously you have Problem top madden with a thousand players You got mad daily a triple og lights out always been putting on good content You got playbook was in always putting on good content You have mad turf with the most belts and the most championships and the best players and the best streamers You know, but we're not going to it's not this topic isn't about that really. I'm not going to get into Better than this better than that You know, it's not And then you have obviously uh chaos and and only starter type the hot rod tips or what I think it's called That's a good thing.  Everybody that signs the top 100 man players in the world They have a refined skill that nobody else has You know, and they're the top percentile in the world at this You know, so most definitely you should make money off this craft. You should sell this skill that you have You know, because people want to learn people one thing I learned about man in the last three years is Man people want to learn how to play like you play if you're a pro and we always talk about How hard it is to be a man and pro I'm saying that how hard it is to be a man pro EA makes it hard to be a man pro EA makes it impossible. Look at the 2k league. It's so easy to be a pro They got guarantees salary. They got all these opportunities to make money and for a madden pro Selling guides selling tips helping other people get better at Madden. That is part of being a pro That is what I learned in the last two years.  I want to compete at getting the money You know and being the best at content being the best at Helping other people get good at Madden, you know, and that's pretty much where I want to go and the other thing I want to talk about Is nobody In this top hundred nobody in this You know that has this skill to talk about man that has this You know knowledge of the mad game should be given it away for free not a single person You know, you're always going to have the crumb youtubers that try to steal it and put it out for free To get their little couple thousand views man And those people are crumbs because those people don't have the same skill that we do So they can't offer that they can't get people to buy it because they don't have that talent We are blessed and we worked hard to get that talent. So it should never be given away for free So if you're out there and you're one of these people that have this type of talent, it should never be given away for free Shout out my man. Something's with us up But you have to realize that you're that that extra line of player and really not do anything for free because ultimately If we're all doing stuff and we're asking for money, man The next guy down the line can't do it for free and because one that just drives out the entire market It hurts all of us and when I tell you guys talk about how hard it is to be a pro This is an avenue that we need to sustain madden as a career And as much as everybody talks about they wish, you know, we could play madden as a career You can but you have to utilize every avenue available to you and this is like I said, this is one of the biggest ones So no player that's that good at the game should really devalue their skill to the point where they're giving away for super cheap Or we're giving away for free You know And that's That's important to me You know and and point says every no youtuber sells ebooks But I will tell you there's a difference between me and a youtuber It's just between skimbo and a youtuber. It's different between cleft and a youtuber It's a difference between kiv and a youtuber. You're talking about the best smartest players in the world You know, it's not bazooka larry at home running four verticals in inside zone. It's not That's how it goes and and to me What we have can't be Can't be taught or it can be taught but but just the creativity And finding things is something that's a super skill and it should be sold and it should be valued Especially by all you guys that want to get better at madden, you know And that's pretty much has kind of become my passion In the last year or two was just I really enjoy helping other people get good at madden because I I love man probably because I'm good at it You know and because I love it helped me get good at it And I wish everybody had the same joy for it as I do and I think helping you guys get better will increase that joy Honestly, I mean that's pretty much a tip site that being said man madden turf Where else you want to go man me cleft and skimbo like what else do you really need And cc cc does all the much stuff. So if you want to be a muck guy and learn the market and all that that's cc he's he's a He's a genius muck guy. You know, you got me cleft and skimbo What else do you need? It's all right. Wesley, you're right But this is why we will reach the casual player and if we don't reach it won't be because I don't try I will get all these casual players listen chat And if you guys are with me because you guys are with me now That's what i'm saying. You hundred people that are here now.  I will remember Believe that I'm saying Ray, that's what I'm saying But anyway, that's what I feel about tip sites I want to talk about a couple little goals that I have Show my man jack and my man uncle luke man 13 months street 18 months for this jack man. I appreciate you guys Um cc is a glitch in the chat now. I I want to talk about goals Let's see here or they thought jump you listen you guys will learn and listen I'm I'm going to put every all you casual players in the piggy in the backpack. All right But seriously, well I want to talk about some goals now.  I'll tell you that right now last year. I was really excited For mad and it was a big deal For me You know, I was excited because it was my first year on the man 18. I kind of started with the business I started with all that I had a lot of success Man 19 I was ready to just piggyback on that. Obviously it was kind of done for a little loop with Jacksonville and all that so You know, uh I'm excited about this year. It's kind of a fresh start It's kind of forgetting man 19 forgetting that entire year and at this point in my life. It's like Madden is the year You know as much as january december is a year for me It's like august to july that's that's a year and pretty much for man is august to February or august to march, you know, and that's pretty much what my year has become And so for us it's kind of like a new year in nine days eight days, whatever it may be So my excitement level is through the roof now.  I'm not gonna get on my goals because I have Sub goals for twitch. I have youtube goals through the roof. I do But the main thing I want to do and I'll tell you guys this man is I want that way man 16 And I'm gonna make a tweet about this right now in madden 16 I played 100 or 1300 Mutt head-to-head games 1300 man man 16 before mcs before anything. I played 1,300 games of mud head-to-head For fun for free 99 because I legitimately love playing man I really did regardless if it was for money for free and I will tell you this as a top man playing the world I have played the most free games of anybody Because I just love the game So to me one of my goals is I'm going to play 1500 games of mud head-to-head. I don't care That's not the only thing I want to play. Obviously I'm going to play every leaderboard I can All the regs everything with that. You know what I'm saying? So to me One of my goals is 1500 games of mud head-to-head You know what I'm saying? But who is not competitive player? I'm talking about all the players that have made over 50 000 dollars in madden in the last three years I've played the most free games put that way. So one of these things is if if I don't play 1500 games Of mud head-to-head like I did in man 16 I'm going to give every person Let's see It's okay. Okay. I'm with every person A hundred dollars There it is, man If I don't play 1500 games Of mud head-to-head I will give every person that retweets this a hundred dollars I want to tell you this D crop does this this don't even conclude we can leave Does not include we can leave No, not we can leave separate. This is straight mud head-to-head Oh There you go. See that's why that's why they're there Boom. No, this is literally just mud head-to-head. Nothing else No, I did not play 1500 in 19. I probably played 200 in mad 19 Now this one's saying If I don't play 1500 games of mud head-to-head, I'm going to give every person and retweets this a hundred dollars Every person you don't believe. All right. All right, check I'm I have a long I'm telling you it's a long season Boom, there you go. Have fun. I don't know why you guys don't believe me You know I'm telling you mud is what made me mad 16. I was a good Father will these games be streamed everything will be streamed my entire life and man 20 will be streamed This is going to be an epic year for myself and the business. I'm telling you guys I promise you guys right now, man. It is going to be we are going to grind the shit out of madness in 20 Into the dirt it is going to be there's not going to be anything left of this game when we're done I've been thinking about this too Let me tell you guys this one of my one of my plans for man 20 the first month And I talked to cleft about this is 24 hours for 24 days This is just and I talked to cleft and we're going to do this. All right And you guys with me now we're going to do 24 hours straight. I have a mirror cleft for 24 straight days So he'd do eight hours. I pop in do 16 or he'd do 12. I do 12 He'd do 10. I do 14 for 24 straight days So it'll be 24 hours for 24 straight days and I really think That we can get this done.  We could pass off 12 hour shifts And if y'all don't listen, I'll tell you this I might mess around with myself because I'm that excited for man 20 I thought you think we need a third guy. I mean balling you up is in here He said he could play the 7 p.m. The 8 p.m. The one hour then Kiv I am the west coast guy. All right. I'm the west coast guy We don't have a third No, I'm not cutting trees doing man season damn sure not the first month. Hello Hell no the first month. I'm not doing nothing but playing man. It can be done I will tell you this chat and you guys listen and you guys will agree with us. I'm about it Y'all have to realize that you know, I'm about it I don't think I don't think we need a third all cleft guy. Listen. I'll tell you this right now All cleft guy pull is eight hours. That's it Can cleft pull eight hour streams? That's what I'm gonna ask you guys Do you believe in the cleft guy to pull eight hour streams now? I believe in cleft I think cleft is a superstar only I'm not going outside when man comes out This is life that man is life. Shit is real. We are mad and is real. Yes But we'll see I got to talk to him He said it's a good idea But you guys know I'm down for the 24 hours 24 days, you know, I'm down for that Clef you ready to see if I don't do that. It's different. I'm just be salty like all right next game next game He did tap out the first night 20 hours I got hit 20 I might have to now I will tell you this if cleft hit the rage get off and somebody call me You got to give me like a 10 minute buffer time to get the phone call Wake up and click the stream on that's all I asked don't get petty with the y'all were off stream for five minutes Can we agree on that chat? Can we agree on that? I just all I want to know Oh 24 hour stream. That's that's easy. I'm telling you cleft could pull off an eight hour stream That's a day. That's like a baby day of work a real day of work to me is 10 hours So eight hours should be easy Now you guys tell me what you think I don't think I listen. I think we can do it Also weekend will will be back problem is not ducking Like I said, he won one time last year and stopped answering my call until after New Year's like dead ass The weekend will is gonna pop The alcohol might be what taps me out and I'm I'm worried that cleft see I can stream anytime Because you know, this is my crit I don't know if cleft computer down in his living room with his people. You know what I mean? So he he might not be able to do like the 2 a.m. The 7 a.m You know, I think that and I don't want to do a weekend wheel Bang all of a sudden it's 2 a.m. On Monday morning. I'm drunk as hell and I cleft can't wake up You know saying that's gonna be the biggest problem For I don't have a copy man 20 what you guys fail to realize and Kim can attest to this We are all the same as you guys just because we're good at the game and you guys know who we are Doesn't mean that we get the game You know, and that's that's all the really what you guys have to realize, you know Skimbo now streaming skim plus skimbo Go to bed at 1 a.m. type 1 a.m. Eastern type of guy anyway, really shot of my man lacking with the sub But really man 24 hours 24 days, man Listen, you guys know that I'm about to action. You guys know that I'm about to action And I I just hope it's fun, man How about that man if if the game and the game's always fun in the first month or so because you just learning it like you And you're really not that much better than anybody Shout out to Zanzo the man 10 months 24 hours, I don't think it's that hard But that's pretty much going to be a goal Yo 500 hours. Yeah, we definitely Definitely definitely probably gonna drop 500 the first the first hour on the stream That's bad. It's now. It's like as soon as you download man as soon as it's done. You don't play. It's not practice mode It's go buy packs Crazy, but that's the life wheel and I've told my friends man Some of my friends tell me yo, let me just hold 100k man Man is your job. I told him man If you spend if the for honestly, if you're half if you can win 15 games a week and leave right that's It's a hundred people in this chat Most of us can probably win 15 games a week and leave especially early in the game If you spend 100 200 dollars the first week play every week in league and win 15 games You probably don't have to spend money the rest of the year. Honestly So that's pretty much how I feel about it Books ain't going through two hours, man He can't make two hours Yeah, so that's pretty much how it goes. But like I said, that that's one of my goals 1500 games of my head to head if you haven't retweeted, I'm going to play 1500 games of my head to head without without without a doubt and um Ben and bougie honestly private lab sessions are something I really want to work on get in a way to um Really, uh, open up that avenue Professionally and I've done it obviously privately through like DMs and helping people individually But it's something I really want to get to professionally And uh expand that avenue because I love doing that I love like even playing a game of madden with somebody And it's like, okay We started the game and you had no idea but by the third quarter You caught on to what I was telling you and seeing that growth from a player Just from the first quarter to the fourth quarter and seeing the grasp of concept and where I'm with it Is really rewarding for me myself and also for the person because they're getting better at madden, but Right, that's how it goes That'd be nice, man Long live simba and he asked a question like the youtube asked question What's your opinion of posting tips on youtube other pros and other games do it and they build a channel off that And you must be new or you must have just joined the chat because I talked about this when I talked about the tip sites Us as madden players have a unique skill a unique skill that only 50 to 60 player people in the whole world have And the elite tips and the elite guides and everything shouldn't be given away for free It is a skill it is a trade much like a carpenter much like, you know an artist Much like a plumber, you know, they're not going around doing things for free Because they have a skill and they train and they work at it and they've mastered this craft You know and it's valuable, but also you can use youtube to put out tips and grow your youtube as well They can be two different sets of tips There's so many information so much information that you can give people in madden that you can kind of You know walk the line as far as what am I going to put on youtube and what am I going to make people pay for because it's worth that much Now regardless of what site you go to I will tell you man Most of what you're it's worth what you're paying for Especially if you want to succeed in madden and I don't and like I said, I don't care what site it is It's going to be worth it because all these people have an idea how to play the game They understand how the game works and they put the effort into the game to to learn it and teach it to you honestly Man, I'm not 1500 is enough for me It's not but listen. I'll tell you this a pro tip A pro tip can be it's so many different things you can do and honestly, I feel like I really I really um I'm going to find that balance. It's going to be tons of tips on my youtube So if you're not subscribed to that you should but also at the same time It's going to be stuff that you're going to have to reach out the man turf to get because it's worth that much You know, but there's also going to be a tons of tips on youtube and a lot of times You'll put out an e-book like last year. I ran the warms, right and I love the warms But maybe the world wasn't for everybody and I will mess around with another playbook saying dress him this Wow, I'll find a nice play, but it's not going to be a whole e-book But I'll put that one play on youtube So maybe if you use the new york giants playbook you can add this one play play to your office really Listen as far as spending money on packs and they're asking in the chat about How much money should we spend on packs? Honestly, it I've talked about this many times on this podcast before Is that man is your hobby? If it's what brings you joy then spend your money honestly because People spend money on their hobbies all the time man. We we confuse man.  It's what you like to do. It's what you love So yeah, is it worth a hundred dollars a month or a hundred dollars a week or fifty dollars? We whatever it may be if it's what you love to do and if you're spending 10 15 20 hours a week doing it. Why is it not make it the most enjoyable experiences you can it sucks that you know Man and it gets to the point where we got to pay this much or or it costs this much But you know ultimately it's it's your hobby. It's what you love to do So if investing in what you like to do there's nothing wrong with that investing in your happiness and your joy There's obviously nothing wrong with that You know And I'll tell you this It's not about the mic because you could spend a hundred and get three great players and somebody could spend a thousand and get nothing That's the trouble That's kind of the trouble with Mutt I guess it's kind of a little bit random But they have made it in the last year to where okay If you spend a hundred you're guaranteed to get this player you're guaranteed to get 500,000 coins You're guaranteed to get x y and z and that makes it a lot easier than bang Okay, I spent 500.  I appreciate you With the red bass 24 months to describe you two years. That's my guy. I heard his cast's birthday today though So happy birthday to big cap, man Big cap one of the few people I actually went to his crib and chill with him, man He's a real guy. We're in town hit him up. He said come through. I'm gonna see him. That's all I'm saying but That's neither here nor there Oh What we get on this joint so a hundred people let me look at this chat A hundred and two weeks. So that's what how much money is that? If I don't play as many A hundred put a zero and a zero. That's ten thousand dollars. I already All right, gotta play this 1500 because I damn sure don't have a ten thousand But last thing I want to talk about man. We want to get back to these these classic games Kiv is in the chat This was probably one of the most exciting games I watched. I was live for this game This was against the legend volt and i'm at the time Volt was the glitchiest He was tough Volt was an absolute beast And this was draft champions.  I believe This is man 17 man This is when kiv kiv looked like krill of theville And volt was just an egg with a hat But this was a legendary game Because honestly being in the crowd they still had live people you could actually be in the crowd With young kim And this is if you watch the podcast This is um, this is actually Megan rupino jesus But this was actually the same tournament where kiv lost the skim boat that i broke down earlier a couple weeks ago So kiv was playing really good And he he needed to win this or not A big cap there he is big cap a big cap and volt similar looking But i don't know a kick it's a he needed to just not lose this game by enough He didn't need to win. He just couldn't get blown out He had to just not lose by like nine points or something And this is probably Obviously one of the most entertaining games out and kiv has seattle playbook as we see a little bunch tight end Little two-man under jerry cook who was a monster and man To kiv really it's crazy because in two years kiv really got like 10 years older Let me show you guys something, you know and not a lot of people to see this Watch and it's a long game and it's a really entertaining game But look at like this not lose by eight So i'll show you guys something that kiv does here That you know, it's a little tip of mad that you know, maybe you don't see it It doesn't get him that much here But you'll see he has jerry cook jerry cook is fast for tight end But he's not fast enough to just run down the sideline Now kiv knows someone's coming here So what he's going to do is go inside to try to get the angle of the computer player To change and then he can kind of just he can get wide and get around him kind of it doesn't work But that's what he's trying to do because what happens the computer player Pretty much the computer players to take dumb ass angles and you can manipulate the angles they take So you'll see him try to loop in here to get the computer player to bite down hard pause And then he'll try to loop back out now He's not quite fast enough to do it But that's what he tries to do see it boom and he just barely got grabbed by number 31 So it's just little things like that You know that uh That you know, you guys can add to your game and understand angles understand how to manipulate the computer Honestly, that's why you always click on pretty much in every aspect of madden Because players at this level will definitely learn We'll definitely learn how to manipulate those uh Manipulate the the computer Miz, you know, I got you man Shadow misery retired man player Miz you back from madden 20 or what? Yeah, right. Miz. You're skinny now. You can't be good If you're listening this man, please check this out on youtube if you're listening this on soundcloud No, you guys can't see as he dumps the ball off the Derek Henry there man table route corner strike Corner strike man 17 might be one of the most overpowered players in the history, man, honestly Kerry Q Bro, let me tell you something as I mute this real quick I always think Kerry gonna be good. I promise you every dc tournament he makes every level he makes I think he's gonna make a run and he just always lays down for some reason as kiv Is to see right right there to the wild side of the field So he really prepared. He definitely has seattle playbook. He gets that popping Probably one of the best playbooks in madden uh 17 especially for uh The draft champions it might have been most feared Henry wasn't it was rookie year. It was rookie year Derek Henry So I really don't know exactly what Promotion it was I always expect Kerry to pop up and then he's just uh laying down for him, honestly Bro, kiv. Yeah, see what you guys don't want to say about kiv He keeps the tags on his clothes and takes them back after the live event telling you he don't have none of this It's all Henry good cut back up the middle scores the touchdown first drive But kiv is definitely the type to keep the ticket. You should see them in Vegas here to ticket all his stuff Yeah Rent a swag. That's kiv heavy rent a swag man So this is what was great. Honestly. This is what's great about watching this game because I always see kiv It's pretty much like pretty much Oh, kiv is pretty much like just he pretty much does what he wants Dots professionally gets everything done and then we see mr Vote comes out here in this five wide and he just lets this thing fly So this is why I was so entertaining. It was no like There's no sitting around. There's no seeing that's no no running back passes It's just we're taking the top off and it was crazy because i'm telling you Are many of his games kiv was out there looking helpless on defense. I think this is playing his own Just one play whoop whoop one playing touchdowns all day three streaks And vote and the best thing about vote if I vote vote it'll matter if he's down a hundred or he's winning But he's swerving every play. He's got that same face and he's just showing the whole time This is a beautiful pass man great animation. So when I tell you listen That was pretty much what this game is I'm saying it was watching kiv dissect defense go down score points And it was watching vote literally take the top off and just go right at his head every single time He got the ball as we see vote out here in the nickel normal, which obviously was the most dominant defense Now it wasn't good in the challenge yet because these guys didn't move these safeties down in the box That's what changed the nickel normal is when they started moving these safeties down the box It made the outside corner really unblockable Yeah, vote vote's biggest weakness was that he leaned on the swerve a little bit Too much, but that's what made it so good for him because he could really pull it off Pretty much in any situation You know, it really wasn't At least he kiv with the uh play action Run by and cross running by cross man right there I might have to be all the way back man is we shall see and one thing as I mute this I'm glad they had the double they got the double um streams now So we don't have to just wait for little updates. We want to watch Hollywood of this carry We can go to ea madden two I'm saying so that's definitely a good thing that they had the double streams Now we're back this kid second drive so One thing about giving up a one-play touchdown man It does hurt, but you're right back on offense. There's plenty of time left in the game As we see kiv go for the uh double streak Henry just running people over Stanley you did like nick. I thought nick was really good, man And this is kiv getting super lucky Like I don't know who I feel like he could have thrown to everybody but him will route was a touchdown And kiv just pressed the button right there He pressed the button and got a score Well, Henry is just such a horse. It's just a great player to get in draft champions because you can score those touchdowns As you can see what kiv is thinking about here is he wants to take this all the way to the new quarter We go we go was a black guy No kiv didn't just run one play like kiv was just And I hate I'm gonna have to play more xbox because I gotta play kiv more Because I only played him two times and he fucked me up both times and I don't like that Because for me to be good against somebody I gotta I gotta get a lot of looks You know because I don't know. I don't know any young kiv tendencies. Maybe I gotta watch more games or something But I need to get some more looks You know because I'm not good like that's why that's why skimbo is my son because I got enough looks I got enough looks at skimbo and saying he don't surprise me with anything Kiv he always just got the right call so far as we see dollar right here against a little dudes close kiv going oh we go Kiv with the he was not prepared for a run commit at all right there Just not prepared for a run commit and and this is a play like bro How are we not prepared for a run commit right here?  So it would have been a fluky pick six and he would have picked it No, you're not in that much time. You know look over there that fast No, but seriously that was a fluky. How did he like stand there like that? I felt like that should have been a touchdown easily Now you ain't look over there if you looked over there, you would have got second ones just press the button Come on kip kip and chat trying to sell too much credit right now. I looked over there saw it So I just panically pressed a breeze right the fluid would have been six six Now for real, I just I just that corner that corner did something with it Now he ran commit is what he did that corner shouldn't have been nowhere. I don't think he would have picked it though So here we go back with the vault show Held kip the three and that's all the vault man needed. Oh, this is swear for sure Oh Over there. Oh, look at the face. Look at this savage vault So you this game was lit Three streaks Oh, yeah, find somebody Find somebody He said don't remake bugs Look at vote with seven streaks, man. You gotta love it There's never learning point chat. This is another learning point This play before here, right?  I don't That kip gets on this play right Our users the man So to give up a play like this, honestly, you need to get no pad. Look he has all double teams. He has all day He has all day and he finds a play like this So naturally what when this play stops all kiv is talking about goddamn he had all day Kids said I had good defense out there. I had everything covered but he had all day, right So the next play when when you have all day like that The next play kiv is pissed about that.  I believe What's he goes with yep send six free off the edge vote those the ball away exactly I wouldn't call it really a rage blitz, but yeah, it's similar that like I said you guys have been So again, he's going to rage blitz because he was pissed. He just gave up all that time And at the same time I think now after he just showed a rage blitz He might drop back into coverage. I don't think he's going to send six again You know, and that's what I would be thinking on offense right now is kiv on a blitz I would think he would drop into coverage here And he does rush three. He's got a touchdown. Oh, we lobbed it though. Good spot See what I mean you get into a vibe where defensive players don't want to do the same thing every time You know, so that's what I would have guessed that he wasn't going to drop into coverage Third and 10 now you're at your infield range a sack would knock you out of points and keep kiv with the lead So you could probably expect the blitz here. You got to be ready for it at least Little bluff blitz over here. It goes for the swerve Inside swerve catches it pretty much a touchdown. That's the one thing about the swerve If you overplayed it like that you could just run inside and catch it honestly You know, that was one of the things that the people didn't Understand how hard it was to guard it because you couldn't overplay You couldn't overplay the uh outside and you just get like user caught inside I don't remember man 17. Oh man 17 goal line was hard because of blitz see Blitz see was hell down here in red zone in man 17 David Johnson power hole was never to call. I don't think maybe sting Oh, and there we go rivers getting in the end zone Let me see kid back on offense man. So vault gets the ball at half and we see it carry Q again get a nice little run Son of a three All right breezes in the chat says the swerve was bummy and I want to say why that's why I ask you guys And and youtube if you're watching this, why was the swerve bummy? What was your opinions on the swerve? Honestly Because for us it really separated, you know people with user people and it made You know the ability to use these tall receivers to be able to user catch to some extent Oh good lurk right there by vault Because what it did is if you were ready for you could really stop You could stop the swerve, you know, you could pick it off. It was it was definitely um A risky throw if you're playing a good player, especially if they're ready for and that's the reason why vault wound up losing in the man championship because problem picked them off three or four times Stopping the swerve, you know, and that was uh pretty much the risk that you ran if you were a swerve person Little jarrett cook with a huge catch for kid right there You know I'm saying so it's always it was definitely a risk and one thing The one thing about the swerve is it allowed a great player to go play an average player and just blow him out Where now in the game it's hard to really blow somebody out and just embarrass them And the swerve is something that allowed that and for somebody that's at the top of the game like myself I mean I liked that aspect of the game You know, we could actually go score 80 points on somebody that didn't know what they were doing And honestly like we'll play mad now and you go play one of these nfl players if they play on the d lineman And it's going to be tough to just absolutely beat them by 80 points, you know But in man 17 you were beating people by 80 points look he could just Move the ball down a field. So it looks like he has Saffarian Jenkins and jarrett cook, you know, so I don't know I don't know if that's saffarian Jenkins Saffarian Jenkins is a backup player or he's actually a good player No, what happened in this game and I've talked about this on the podcast before is actually True boy Problem be everybody they were cheating for kiv. So they were in kiv's I Site line telling him how many points he could he had to win by in the sand and uh Nobody was helping vote and this is the game where beast mode ran on beast mode mac Man's the one who actually won this tournament ran on ran up on the stage And actually told vote way he needed to win As we see a dot right there from kiv almost didn't get that off I saw what he was looking for the whole way. So beast mode ran up on the stage and Told vote what he needed to do to win the game So he ran out there and that's when problem went and put hands on beast mode and like choke them Oh, look at the young girly. Yeah, be problem went over there and put hands on beast mode for doing that Which is a little crazy But then beast mode won the tournament So maybe like next time I'm gonna tell prime come put hands on me And then I could win the tournament Oh, look at henry not standing up for kiv right there now This is where kiv should take all this time off the plate like I might have even called a timeout if I was a vote there Yeah, prime I'm telling you that's what happened. Let's go. I don't tell you about it Probably definitely choked out beast mode And beast mode just sat there and was uh, I obviously don't if I was beast mode.   What do you guys do there?  I'm gonna pause this real quick What was crazy about this game that we don't remember is there was no quick audibles So kiv come out quarterback sneak.   Jones was like Call it flip it and then one butt tap and it works every time. Yo, y'all are such losers, dude Call it flip it works every time call it flip it Butt tap Damn kids just got super bagged time you ask them That was definitely not that was that was I swear moe was the one man. You'll wait till one second to do your quarterback sneak It works.  Yeah, y'all believe that should have y'all want Oh, that was a dot. I mean what my man vote had no yellow zone So that was a big sequence to keep that man that really just now vote That was a big sequence getting that quarterback sneak and getting that dot That's what the crowd they've been saying that for years, man My man vote no kick return So this is what I asked you what is what is vote going to do out of the huddle You already know what he's going for is he going to get it? Is he going to pop the top?  I said just run cover two and backup your defense Now this can't be covered to the way he moved in the corner Because the further you move back to safety the harder it was to swerve him. Jesus. That was rough That one was rough. That was I need a big play. Let me chuck That wasn't even like a swerve.  I'm telling you is but he could play way better defense Yeah, the last play was bad the one the but the big play could have been a pick But that one was just shitty He I brought like he got make a play One he giving him with he not could he too comfortable back in the pocket I'm telling you swerve was not this tough. It wasn't this man 17 kiff versus volt madden challenge group play Kiff needed a vote needed a win by nine or eight points or something Dude, I said watch your neck pretty much. I love this man.  Oh, we almost fought through that too But I wish they showed behind the scenes. There was popping in the crowd for this game The swerve was awesome for man. I don't understand why you don't like that stuff, man It's only a few people could do it at a high level and it separated people and there's only a few people And you had to be good to stop you had to have stick anticipation To stop this word Like it was definitely a good thing. Yeah, it was definitely a good thing Did they have interviews? Come on. I want to hear your interview. Nobody care about this game. Oh, here we go. Okay Shout a drink. You have a one-point lead against one of the top 10 madden players in the world Your grandpa's here made the drive from boston shout out to grandpa volt He's here. What does that presence mean to you having him here?  Well tyler mentioned we don't know a lot about you the madden community is finding out a lot about you Archie specifically wanted me to ask you. What does your name mean? What is the origin of why your name is what it is? I just came up with it a few years back That's it. It doesn't mean anything. It was just made up randomly Random, we love it. All right. Let's send it to scott. Draya one to ten. Come on chat Check give me a draya one to ten check. Come on No, for real. No, no, we're both a good kid, man Dragan's an eight? Tell you get dragan's an eight? Chat dragan's an eight? an eight?  She see everything, bro You can't treat on it. You can't cheat on a chick with an eye like that You can't she see everything bro.   You can't bro. Like that's just real rap, bro. You can't can't nobody cheat on that I can't date a chick that seems very I need to check that look in one direction not both She can't look in both directions and I can't be with a chick that see both directions What? But most of the kids this grandpa was cool as hell too, man But let's see this game's still dammit. We used to have we don't have had time no more The ea track is in and out of that studio now. They ain't trying to pay no more studio time Listen dragan's my boo No, so kid out here and is this still dialed now. Is this three four?    That's what that was. They should show it again. I'm assuming That wasn't a gliss.  How was that bad? But that's kevin had no stick Yo, y'all pony. I started to think you're bum. I'm really starting to think you're bummy No, it's not listen if you expect it. It's not hard to do. It's not i'm telling you My vote was the best though. He was the best but Gotta be better They do take a brain.     Oh man to the Baha I'm starting to think y'all bummy man. Yeah, this tournament was bolster's debut But that was like spinner Look at zen Couple bolster might be hell throw it Oh, kevin's shook right now So like I said, kim had a plus eight spot So right now it's 35 to 28 to get out of groups back then you had to care so much about point differential Because only two people made out of group now Three people make it out. So point differential really is not that big a deal. It was a great dot Allen has an emote now Why does allen have an emote allen too ugly to have an emote, bro Far you about to lose your mind, bro and pony man. Listen y'all should I know automatic payment man 20 all minds going Oh, that's the skimbo Top 32 that was hell What's the I have the best emotes, bro No one uses the Nobody uses the uh, joe rice emote in the chat chat. Do you think that's worth money to joe rice emote? Chat youtube awesome, man. We think about some emos for man 20. What's some good emos? I mean, I got the henny at the end of the day At the end of the day, the henny is the ultimate man Who might be able to get rid of pet peeve moss clint? I got clint, you know But now kid like I said, kid is plus eight right now A bullseye for a dot uncle lume.  Everybody's standing like, yo, you gotta win by eight But you gotta not you gotta keep it within eight. So that changes how he plays A vote doesn't know that he's just playing. You know what I mean? Y'all might need a scoop on a 2k at night two boys So that's why one thing about and you guys can tell me is is the point differential should that be common knowledge Should that be just given to everybody before the game? I think that's the best way to do it But it definitely affects the way you uh Good block good stick to get out trusting that block. I never trust that block That's why I suck at toss chat and I don't know how you guys feel about toss That's why I suck at the toss I Always I always never trust that they're never trust that block as we see vote run the ball right here Raise that's why I never run toss on first down like you ever played me I will never run toss unless it's for all the marbles Look at vote going to the best playing the game smart routes to post Second level stuff right here. Oh, I love this play right here. Oh, he just dumps it off. Okay Good run take it to the fourth quarter of your vote Okay, vote. I like it Nobody should know. I mean, I think that your people are going to know the score because they're able to do the math themselves It's not really that it's not that difficult to really do the math You know, especially if you but like I said with the new formats, it's really not that big of a deal anymore You know, it's not It's not the uh end of the world point differential and it was tough because As we see I think vote goes up top on the little screen right here Yep, look at this throw Wham this pass was ridiculous, dude. I hope they they replay it all hit an absolute laser Look at this throw Jesus christ Chat was that a laser chat Jesus, dude That was a laser by vote So vote back up 15 points Pro Bowl if you can take a touchdown, you'll always take a touchdown. This was That was skimbo setup. Urtiles with the hitch on the running bag.  Oh, that's cam cam got to kill him right there. Is that bald one? Tell her got you right you right how many months you want Five months you might have to wait to get to to eight months or something But I got you since you you man.  She will hold me Okay, I'll score and he's got it It's almost to a point where he Because you got to think he's down. He's plus eight right now. So he's sitting at 35 Sacked again. Who's that channel jones ghosting? No, I wouldn't do skimbo verse mode. It's some good skimbo verse mode game Especially the man 60 I did all man 17 this year man 17 Was that a rung commit?   That's definitely a rung commit and kid don't do it I guess he's about to get sacked maybe but definitely was a rung commit And that's the thing man. Not a lot of people think about getting out of bounds But man getting out of bounds in this situation is big because it will save him some time Although kid and this is where volt needs to know the score too Oh, yeah, the bluff but it's was held back Especially on searouts For a bunch searouts. I don't know. I feel like we still could have had up the top I did prime verse skimbo man dirt check out the youtube a podcast is probably skimbo verse Now I think it's called podcast 34 episode. It's definitely on there. So we got fourth and ten right here. This is For the game Kid want to motion this the play he ran for a touchdown earlier in the game the exact same play He's gonna have x good that You can't get out of bounds Same play he ran same setup he ran for a touchdown probably in the second quarter. I want to say They hold on all jerry rice gotta hold on to that The emover is clever. So I think went over that two or three times And that's just taking time. No, it's taking time. It's taking time But if kip gets eight I really don't remember exactly if he because he's gonna get seven but he'd be down by eight. Is that it equal? Is that equal? Yeah, tell her we definitely won't do a weekend. We'll a little drawl action nine and bro at any time tonight We gotta do an epic sunday or or friday or like saturday or something high ball held on good dot See, no, no, no, no, look bless somebody else What kid looking at right now? Look at his eyes. Look Bless somebody else. Do I need to go for two or one? Do I keep their support? I go for two. Okay Yeah, okay I'm not we definitely locking in though. We gotta get we gotta get twins ready for man 20 It might be nine or it might be the night before ea access stream That's what we might have to be tradition niner Oh god commercial.  He said he had to keep it within eight So volt can't score any points, but volt kind of no vote has to know Good dot the moss See and what's crazy about it is Volt might think that he needs to touch them and it might be Volt thinks he needs to touch down See kid taking the time out So if if your vote if kid take it might be a bluff timeout And this is what crazy when you play in these games, you don't know if the opponent knows what you know I think that was almost a bluff timeout. Like yeah, I want to get the ball back. So he kind of hoped that What you can call it He kind of hoped that volt sits on the ball So you don't try to score again Because I think with this score kid gonna move on spring. I four down for the kid for what's been called it for volt Guess the stop right there for volt man Oh, so you needed some points. So eight So why didn't you go for two?  How can a human being be a skimbo fan? So now kids just wants a field goal if kicking you the field goal, he moves on Yeah, good a lot of times but a lot of times might not I'll talk to that about him having to drag Oh big squeeze right there by Baldwin But I will talk to volt having to drag. I don't know if you're gonna look back and look at this fourth down play Is yeah, obviously, yeah, this drag this guy's wide open But a lot of times when you get into a fourth and one If you get to a fourth and one right a lot of times before the play you assume That this lurk is going to cover this guy now Obviously assuming something in man is bad and it can get you in a lot of trouble But at the same time it also it's a pre snap read and it's not even a pre snap read as much as it is a pre snap Thought if that makes any sense That sometimes like you'll go into you'll go into a play with a thought that okay, he's going to cover That he's going to cover the short side now looks like he man up and running back left it Did he man up the safety? Uh, this is a tutty if he manned him up but you You know, so you go into a play thinking he's going to stop the shortest thing in the world So let me assume he's going to lurk that then look above him. But obviously you're right He could have hit this right here. Boom Also another thing about this is tough. You see he man up the running back manned up that guy So you when you when these guys are all coming out this cluster, you really don't know who they're going to Obviously it looks obvious now because we're watching it after But and from this break of the football of the snap, you really don't know who these man up guys are going to So you have to wait to see the clear who they go to because for all you know, they could be manned up on this guy And honestly for all the plays that volt had all day Kiv actually got some sheds this play Because this drag doesn't get to the to the numbers really and both of these guys are coming free You know what I mean So yeah, both of these guys went free it the thing about this play though and he rushed through This is the best sheds he got all day Is that all these guys would have been open? This guy was open. This is a touchdown This guy's open. I don't know what his run his right back might have been streak Was kind of might have screwed up this post, but the shed shed the shed I mean, you know how mad this sometimes they get you shed sometimes they don't All right, I think we already saw all this shit Keep those the dot the ball going So now we get this is a milk game really And this is probably around the time beast mode ran up to vault and said you need to score and then problem choked out beast mode I don't think we knew how tough that play was yet And that's the game really Yeah, I would assume on a fourth and one I would assume you would learn the closest stuff really See and it's just weird how they play like why would kiv Kiv just snapped the ball with 15 seconds. I don't know what was going on So it's just weird how they used to play these games with the points and everything Because kiv really should have milked more. I mean the field goal wins the game, right? Well, not necessarily wins the game, but then also Winning this game. Yeah, winning this game. Yeah, that's what I'm saying Winning this game was probably good for the season and everything But you never wanted to give him another chance. That's what I was smart You play I guess you played that right for if I can get the touchdown and win the game So look look at the look over y'all Yeah, I'm thinking man having friends helps check having friends helps look He ain't doing the math. Everybody else is doing the math Yeah, most of us have I don't know if we all had make-up on for that, but yeah kiv That was the ball game And what did it mean to you to do this in front of your grandpa? I want to circle back to him the man drove so far to see you So what did it mean to you to do that in front of him today? It means a lot and especially the family watching at home. Shout out to all them I know they're watching on twitch Twitch yeah, and everybody's watching a lot of new madden fans Our team vault now So what do you want to say to the madden community all the new fans that you earned today because of what you were able to Show you can do on the big stage. I just hope I advance and hope I can do something tomorrow All right, well, let's send it back to tyler. Great job All right, thanks tray appreciate that. Uh, we are doing now. I tell you I don't think about me because of that feel Well, and I don't know what he had to get blown out to go to them one and not But that was honestly entertainment wise that was one of the best games That I've seen the ending was weird because of the point difference one everything Next week. I don't know what we're gonna do. It is the first last podcast before the new game drops I don't know what we're gonna do. We're gonna talk about it. Um, that was a crazy game though It was entertaining and I remember being there and Entertaining game. I will tell you that I enjoyed watching it Like I said, uh prime put hands on beast mode at beast mode won the tournament The problem has not put hands on any other men players since then So I don't know if it's lucky or unlucky if someone puts hands on you But the problem puts hands on you. It could be lucky. I could not know. I really don't we don't know but like I said Well, I mean he was entertaining that year to swerve. Obviously, it's a big topic while watching that game um, and Um for me, it's a great thing in man. It's something that separated players Uh separated an average player to a great player You know, I don't think that's ever something bad And it's something that was very it was stoppable if you expected it Kiv really just he was shitty that game Uh stopping to swerve if you watch that year problem stopped to swerve He killed a volt. He beat volt in a man championship One he got way more pressure on volt And um two like I said if you positioned your players the right way it was harder to swerve them and uh I don't see that at that game. No volt only got a real one clean swerve the rest of them What kind of there's user catches because uh of overplaying swerve, you know, and that was kind of like the thought process You know, so that was definitely a Fun game to watch man.  So I did put that tweet. I will put that tweet in the description So you guys can retweet it. I will give a hundred dollars that everybody retweets that if I don't play that many games That's a lot Uh And it was tough. I mean it was It's gonna be tough but madden 13. I know madden 16. I played 1300 games for fun You know, now don't be streaming. It's gonna be a lot of fun. 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