ou stupid boy and uh it is do you want to come back out to Iraq with me so he offered me a job to come out and be part of his team and I said honestly so I said I would I would go to Iraq with you I said but I said honestly I don't want anything to do with the army anymore I said the way we mean me and John have been treated I said it's it's diabolical I said we've had our names put in the papers we've had all this that happened to us and then I said another thing I said John's not even done his 22 years and he's not even given his used to get a silver bugle for doing in 22 years I said the regiment have snubbed him and not given him his bugle there he is right and I go okay right and I said um I said you know are we all waiting to get I said John's waiting to get out I'm waiting to get out and I said we just we can't get out until this court march was over and he goes okay so that day I'd fit a couple of days later I'd qualified all these drivers and I drove because I was in North I was in North England I went to Black I went to um where my mate lives and I went and I went and seen him in the northeast this John character so I go there um I said oh I've just seen the Brigadier and he went funny old thing should say that he goes look what I've got at least he's there with the silver bugle he said I said what happened there he goes oh he made um he made he made a captain personally drive from Germany to hand deliver the bugle he had a lot of persuasion this guy you know really and I really do believe he paid a part in briefing up Whitehall in what what we've been through and getting things I wouldn't say brush along the carpet but what was the final silver bullet and I was told this as well was I'd managed to get a sneaky copy of what had happened to my friend who's in a band called the lay lines and he used to be in the army there's in a he's in a rock band called the the late rock band the folk rock band called the lay lines and he's so doing they're doing quite well and he knows a few people in the media I knew he would act like my spin book and getting this story out there so he run the news of the world pulled the news of the world in and he had a copy of my dvd with all the original footage on so he did what the baby sea should have done and backed us up and said look hang on there's all this footage you're not showing all the full story you're just showing a clip of what happened so he got and then he got Andy McNabbin and Andy McNabbin or whatever his real name is he was he's at the Royal Green Jacket apparently he he wrote a story in the sun and the story was hang on we've not seen the full picture here and I think we've jumped to conclusions these guys were under attack and he was the first person to come out and defend us so I will always have I'd like to personally thank Andy McNabbin for backing us up you know when when you when everyone in the country is like these are scumbags he's like this you know he was the first person to to back us up and the second person to back us up was Jeremy Clarkson Jeremy Clarkson came out and wrote a piece because he'd been out to Iraq and he had an art when he was on one of the when he was out in one of the helicopters he got fired up they fired an RPG at him some in surgeon fired an RPG at him and he said it was so frightening and he said because he'd experienced that in Iraq he said he just made his own assumptions people need to be having to know the full picture of what's going on out there before they make judgments on us so those were the two interviews when I was really struggling my dad had cut those newspaper pieces out and I remember keeping them you know because they were like just somebody fighting our corner because we didn't have a lot of people fighting our corner everyone was like you know judging us um and that was it got out the army I remember handing my ID card in and that was it you know finished and then within a year two years I'd started work on my own documentary I met I met up with that BBC journalist right because he contacted me and he said sorry to me he said I'm really sorry my boss wouldn't let me put the full picture he said it just wasn't in them it wasn't in the public interest you know and I just said to him and I was friends with him for a few years on Facebook and I recently deleted him because he because I put some shit about the BBC about them not reporting the full facts again and he came back with something towards me saying well they have and I said they wouldn't go there mate I said because you shit on us years ago and I just said I just I just let him on a private message and I said you you knew the facts and you didn't tell the facts to the public the BBC knew what the facts were but they decided like Jimmy Savile staff and all the rest of the shit they buried it mate we need to clarify this the BBC don't decide it's decided for them I'll totally get that you know and the BBC folks at home if you still think the BBC is this quaint you know archetypal British Auntie Beebe organisation that brings you wonderful nature doggie which it does but it's called the we call it the shit cracker in this family it's where you you have the wonderful nature documents that everyone dines out on and they're lovely soap operas or whatever and then the other side of it is the the spin the what what you've been what they've put you through and we need to get away from the minutiae thinking it's some guy in the BBC that's just a fucking bastard it's not that they're controlled right it's the same way look at Jordan Peterson when he was on that I think it was a Channel 4 was it Kathy so and so she was she kept trying to destroy the guy and he just wiped the floor with her and made her look utterly ridiculous but the reason she kept going in getting smashed not taking the cue and then coming back in and try was she's been told by her hierarchy what the angle is what she's got to go for and they're controlled by by the powers above them right so sorry I don't mean to interrupt you but it's that's all right now you because I did I didn't there's a there's a documentary I call once upon a time in Iraq so when I came out and I I did this interview with the guy and I said I didn't do an interview with him I did we met up for a cup of tea and I always remember him like laughing and joking going yeah it's all paid for he would pay for food like we'd go for a meal and he'd go right he was trying to butt me up because what they wanted to do was do it he said we could get possibly 20 grand we could pay you 20 grand and you would do a talk about as in you'll get your point of view across of what happened in Iraq and I was like I you know I was already on the verge of like bankruptcy and losing my house and my my you know previous man was over and living in my car and that money but I just couldn't I just and then I remember I was I was just on the fringes of making diary of a disgraced soldier so I like all the artwork you see in diary of a disgraced soldier so I started getting on the verge of madness so I was painting all these pictures and I I even the hired like this room where I just keep all these pictures I was like making my own gallery and I remember bringing this this executive from BBC who's called Dimitri something or whatever he came along and I remember him laughing laughing at the paintings and even Scott Scott was laughing at what what and I remember thinking don't do it don't don't go with these people they're going to make a mockery of it they're going to make a mockery they're going to explore your family they're going to they want it so I just turned around to them and I said no I'm going to make this documentary with these three students I met these three students from family university Rich Atkinson, Neil Cole and Chris Rowe and I just said me me and Chris Rowe went to the meeting with the two BBC I said can you come along with me and I remember telling him once this BBC guy goes no I'm not I'm not doing it with you guys and he was so angry because then the beat this this BBC journalist dude being with me you know trying to persuade me he says you'll never make this documentary you'll never get it off and I was like that then that's the best thing you could have said to me I'm going to fucking make this film for bankrupts me it did it did thank you know I literally went now I'm going to make this film so I made that documentary you know that one there and I'm proud of it you know it only went to one film festival and that's got in through um that got that got in because we had somebody in the film festival that took the DVD that was at the bottom of the pile and put it at the top of the pile again it was like mine can we just backtrack a bit have what was the kind of lynchpin um that you didn't get prosecuted for any of that I mean I I'm not saying you should have been prosecuted so remember I remember I gave that footage to my friends uh Steve Mitchell who does the band Lay Lines and he gave it to News of the World journalist who then gave it to um who gave it to Andy Bernag to review so because of that incident because of me doing that right when I was waiting for when I was waiting to get discharged from the army right I remember somebody gave me a number for the M.O.D press office and what I would do is I ring up every day and I said any news yet on our court martial any use it right what I did is I almost harassed him to death no court weather so no news on your court martial no news on the court martial every day run him out and this media breath was because I thought we have to know we've got no information next day so any news on our uh on our court martial date no and then it got to christmas time in 2007 I think I got out 2007 it might have been christmas coming up for christmas time 2006 and it was christmas time and they were giving out this media press officer I rang him up and he was drunk he said court webster I'm so fed up with you ringing me said if I tell you this information you promise never to ring again yeah he went right he said the news of the world are going to back you guys they're going to they're going to they're going to play they're going to back you guys now because they've got the full footage and what they've said to us so the meets so basically the news of the world even though they exposed us we're then going to we're going to play we're going to then back us so as the media then as so as we would be trying at ball first right in this new court that they were building especially to try all these war criminals supposedly walking us the media would then back us so it was a perfect story for them so then the the mod backed off and went that's going to have massive egg on our faces right so he told me the fall he said because the news of the world have the full footage and the back you guys were backing off and we're going to drop all the charges so the crime prosecution service dropped everything all the charges on them I was getting charged with section 69 me it's like someone's made it out what's we call it I'll call it section 69 that's funny yeah section 69 mocking Iraqi civilians while being being mistakes that's what my charge was it's almost like they made it up because I didn't see it in the military law manual that I stole when I left anyway so so that's why it all got dropped the crime prosecutions that we were dropped with no charge we were it was all dropped with no charges all found not guilty but major forks had his careers ruined john was prevented even done his full 22 years he had to spend a whole year in the army and none of their names were only me and major forks his names were released to the press you know mine was released to us the major forks what they did is they did they they released his name to the press and they tried to they tried to make a big thing about he was such a good commander you know such a you know he's I think he's still in the thing that come across in your documentary which is a bloody good achievement mate you know it really really is and I I'm one of these you know and never look back only look forward and there's no such thing as a bad experience you know if some things we wouldn't do again then that's fine it takes us forward to this better better place um so congratulations on the documentary but what I wanted to talk about is I think the thing is so visceral and and is you can see that you're a man pushed to the limit of what anyone is supposed to enjoy you can see that in your in in your frustration and your anger and your your sense of outrage at being in this unique limited bunch of people that actually get this you know that have been subjected to this and have been victim to it and also when I um podcasted with major Andy Shaw who was the Royal Marine Chat that that um was in a blue on blue engagement in the Folkland so one patrol shot up another patrol on the same side obviously and there was one point in his uh that podcast where he went no Chris shut up he didn't say you know he meant it like no let me speak right and he said this is PTSD talking right and I was like I'm only you know it it was palpable I could see you know and yeah I seen that my own behaviour many times over the over the years it it's um um yeah I don't know can we explore that in some I see it in my eyes when I watch that video back it's almost like it's almost like a demonic possession that's anywhere I kind of think it's quite like it's all soldiers if you watch Mike Tyson interviews there's another guy that I'm fascinated by especially because you know it can be go from like crying in tears to one minute like you know he's like a kid like he's like a tiger to be left off a leash and probably why he smokes a little pot to keep himself chilled and some juice and like with me I've never had I've never been into if I smoked cannabis it made me really paranoid if I took any form of drugs it would have the opposite effect on me because I'm my brain's mad enough as it is I you know did magic mushrooms before joining um the army when I was at art school and you know that was another another level of you know of experience that I'm very spiritual person and I believe that you know you can be open to but everyone has their shadow side Carl Jung talks as I've done all the therapy stuff the last 10 years Carl Jung talks about your shadow side and investigating your shadow side your doctor and everyone has a dark side what soldiers do they tap into an uncharted primal evil resource and we all have that ability to snap and it's on you know it's like but at the same time we'd have to control that it's it's got to be it's got to be controlled and measured and that's probably what special forces people look for they look for can this guy contain this that can it be and I I've struggled over years what I find hard of is is it going back to that scared little boy you know at the age of seven that going through that torture it's like when I made that decision this will never ever happen to me again you know the guy that did that to me friend requested me a few years ago and I looked at the picture on his profile and I thought you're so lucky that I've been through 10 years of therapy because if I hadn't when I came out the army you know I could have done something serious this guy but because I've been through 10 years of therapy I got to that place of peace inside myself to realize that I can can control this aggressive behavior because it's not it's not good it's not you can't be a productive member of society for the last 10 years I've worked with so many violent aggressive people and get them to a point where they can find peace and then meet some meet their soulmate meets someone they truly love and find and love themselves you know it's all about loving yourself do we find them mate I just want to get all this out that the alcohol for people like ourselves is problematic right it big time it unleashes the fucking beast I think I think if you've done what I mean by shadow work if you've done loads of like I can have a beer now the thing is if someone's drinking as an addict to to bury something that that's dangerous if someone like now I can drink a can of Guinness with a with a meal right and really enjoy that but if I started to drink lots of them then that could unleash things in me that that's why I've never been into alcohol never been into drugs like that I've never been that type of depends on your on your the person perhaps it's in my upbringing because my mom and dad didn't drink or smoke or those are things that they were traits that I sort of took on to fit in with with military life but they weren't they weren't things that I particularly grew up enjoying really I did it because it was part of the military there just seems to be this really strong connection of people that have been through childhood trauma that then gets to adulthood and then go through something again and then they not only come out of it a stronger more productive you know they say member of society don't they but they are more spiritual person um but it's it's they wouldn't have done that had they not had the trauma as a kid totally I possibly would never have gone in the military because those you know that like that boy that I mentioned at the beginning nearly that you know he went through that beating at the age of you know I must have been eight or nine watching my friend who's older than me get that kick in and it's still it's still clear in my head watching that experience you think that the world is then full of violent dangerous people and it's not there's a full of a lot of good people as well it just happened to be those scenarios of trauma that I went through as a kid then dictate the path that I took you know but then if I'd say for instance that video camera if I turn around that twisted fate of that video not being sure if I if that video didn't come out would I have not have then seen what I'd become this really aggressive violent person to then to then look to then to heal to heal from war you know and the thing is now I realize that there's more power in not fighting there's more peace in your life than not being aggressive not being like that but sometimes you have got a set of boundary with people you know why why is it then because I could see you know the video where you were so pent up frustrated it's if someone had said to you then right here's an SA80 there's bush and there's Blair and listen I don't want to say the words here because I don't want to get get get get us into shit again but no no I don't listen no no one you're not going to get prosecuted I know that your thoughts have been where mine have do you know what I don't have any I don't have any when I was angry then but because I've done so much work on myself how do I feel now I don't feel any that's being it's forgiveness you've talked about it on your podcast so you talked about it with Robbie Williams you know about the forgiveness is finding that place of forgiveness even doing this interview today I feel like there's still work I've got to do on forgiveness around the BBC this forgiveness I've got to do around that interviewee this forgiveness around the SIB that I could feel anger coming up in me around the military police and and I feel like I need to work on those things myself in the next few weeks I'm going to work on them because it's all about shaving off those layers the onion's like today there's this interview is about me going looking looking back and reflecting and going I haven't spoke about I did speak about this two years ago and I became really upset because I went and did a BBC another BBC with that once upon a time in Iraq documentary that was being made and then they spent months nurturing me one of the producers who I've gotten really well with and he was like you're going to get to have your say and I've had my say in diary with this great soldier why do I need to have my say again I know the film will probably never make the light of day I'll never come on BBC channel I'll never be shown on channel four because it's too real it's too visceral it's too hey look this is what went on and the people don't want to know the truth so you know if you want to know the truth watch the film it's free on the viral channel you have to pay for it but I was I did this documentary called once upon a time in Iraq and when I went on it they were like the the producer was like we want to talk to webby and I would well I am webby that person what they wanted but they they thought I was like a split person I that is me that is an aggressive side of me that if you provoke and if you bear bait that person you could you could initiate that if you want that or they try to do that they try to do that in the interview and one of the one of the the interviewer a female interviewer first of all she asked me what I voted on Brexit and then when I told her that I voted leave on Brexit she completely changed towards me she was being aggressive she all day she just provoked me bear baited me and then went on to me tried to associate with me having some sexual disorder with with what I'm saying on the camera and I said then all I did was I just kept calm I kept collected and because I wouldn't react in the way that the BBC journalist wanted to react they didn't put me in the documentary because they wanted to see a nutter on tea and because I because I didn't fulfill what they wanted I came back and my missus said you're right and I said no and I spent three days in my bed I felt sick I felt I felt violated I felt abused and suicidal thoughts come up in my head and that hadn't come up for years and I thought what if these people interview someone who's I have helped them the next few days I had helped from therapists that I've worked with over the last few years what if they interviewed somebody and they went off and killed their son they don't care these these big corporations all they care about is their stupid documentary and I hope I hope they get their next BAFTA for once upon a time in Iraq it's called but I didn't feature in it because I didn't play to their tune I didn't dance to their tune good and it's just sad it's just sad Chris it's sad that these people have controlled the narrative for so long and they're just oh oh it I could say so much about it it's it's just a horrible insidiousness in that whole that they just want to betray the the soldiers how they want to betray them and yeah you know when I watched your interview recently with Robbie Williams I was I was um I was listening to it in the car and I was driving back and the way he spoke about the way he spoke about military guys because he's worked with special forces guy doing the close protection film the love he had for them the fact that the soldiers will do they'll give their life for their for their country that's what I was willing to do was give my life for the country and it made me emotional to hear him speaking with such fondness towards military personnel because they are and I do I do love military personnel I I love the ethos I love hearing the stories from the old and the younger generations and it's just it's a privilege to be part of I don't regret any you know I wouldn't be doing this now with you if I hadn't joined up so for me it's been character building yeah for Rob it's you gotta remember everyone in everyone he's surrounded by you know they come with a the honey in this hand and and the knife in in this hand and and his bouncers his his security will lay down their lives for Rob yeah and they must be such a you know he's in an industry which isn't people people die in that industry quite quite frequently and yeah very suspicious circumstances and but what I wanted to come on to is I've had I've had this conversation before in a podcast is like I I get you that we have to find peace in our hearts I I get that but we're and I hear people say a lot we're it's a spiritual war right and I I I kind of get that but what I I I I really wonder if this is the last sort of keen or peace in some sort of jigsaw to work out to get the ultimate peace of mind in this life because I I consider myself enlightened I certainly am not a left-brained person and that has all the stresses that left-brained people do you know the mortgage the the you know does my ass look big in this and all that all that stuff right but my when you see what this agenda is doing to our young people you've only got to look out of the window and see their loss of freedom their damage the damage that's been done to them right not to not just young people people now have lost a bit is to say hello when they walk down the street it's just awful you get a father and this is not this is not everybody of course it's not okay you know I'm not lumping I'm saying in general because I'm out running a lot or I'm out cycling you know I come past the family there's dad bit poji because you know he's got he's got the 2,000 pound mountain bike for Christmas because someone's prompted him to get he's got the silly lycra on he's got his partner behind behind him and three kids in tow and you cycle and you go just I get it I I think I know what that is it's just complete loss of self damage so much by society through the the fear-based culture that we've been brought up in do you know do you know our faith though but I'm a big believer in it's like well I look where I am now if I look at that whole I was when I made diary if I look at that whole I was in there I got myself out of that obviously with the help of family friends and loved ones and you know I've got myself out of that hole and I see where I'm now and it's like for me it's I've just finished making a film with no budget no funding again another film I've made another I've spent six years in my life working on a film with no budget to make an hour 20 film about penitent about a man seeking forgiveness of themselves and that's what the film was about and is when I when I look at that I don't lose that because I thought at one point I'm never going to finish this film but I had I kept the faith inside and I keep the faith in humanity the fact that the younger generation few speak to them and I'm working with them on a building site at the moment I'm on a building site and I'm they don't buy into this shit they live in they they just find another way around it Chris they just they just they have another one I was working with young eight england and he goes I said do you know about 9 11 he goes no he don't care he the feet I said do you know about he goes no it was just so nice to speak to that what I said what you're gonna get don't know don't get like but just we don't we just find a way around it like we did it's I think what is the birth of the new 90s these kids these younger generation just one and I guess what they're going to be the ones running and showing it and they're going to remember this lockdown they're going to remember this bullshit right and they ain't buying it so I I have faith because I'm chatting to a lot of young lads I have faith in the next generation that they're going to they're going to come out swinging and so I don't I I have a secret side to the side that the smart big smile inside is saying do you know what you know what do you know do you know the great thing that came out about the iraq war Chris for me yeah cool is when they tried to push sharia a few years ago they just got fucked off they got fucked off the war got fucked off because the people have had enough they don't want to see coffins coming back at woot and bust it they don't want to see it they don't want it the public don't want it anymore and the thing is it's the boy that cried wolf and the thing is they played their ace card again right so if you look at it that way there's only so many times you can play your ace card so many times you can tell lies because we've all we've all been done it and what you've got to do is you've got to let this play out you've got to let people lose their feelings you've got to let people that's the way I'm trying to inside let people lose their civil liberties let people lose you've got to lose it to them realize it and then just claim it back yeah if you lose it to the extent that we're losing it at the rate we're losing it at the same time as people don't have the confidence to speak out right right you're doing it yeah but you're doing it now aren't you and it's getting it we have secret meetings with people that that that we speak to that we get like what we call normal people but you don't mind to and the thing is you do what did my boy said to me once at school I said I was getting problems with certain people um certain people would were behaving in a certain way and my son said to me one day again some people were being horrible to me or like I was and my son goes dad do you know what I do at school when people are being not horrible to me they went I just don't play with someone else and I just thought oh god that's the metaphor there is you just connect with the people that you do connect with and that's things you don't you become the the five people that you surround yourself so if you surround yourself with our souls guess what you become an asshole you know well the thing I've learned over life this is the thing three categories people break into right and you can take this quote from me right there's three types of souls in life there's new souls and new souls I believe come to this planet you they're young they're fresh they learn to grow that we help those new souls you've got old souls right and old souls are people um that we learn from we take their experiences we so we listen to them because they're wise sages and then you've got our souls and there's nothing you can do with an asshole just fuck it all three types of souls new souls old souls and old souls and you're an old soul and the thing is you've got that wisdom to give and you're giving it out and that's that's what I don't have an issue with that I mean that's what I do all day long I associate with like minded people um you know we know where we're at there's no you know because we know where we've come from it is what it is we why do you think why do you think I always ask everyone have you been through trauma because I know if the answer is yes and they've been through the turmoil whether it's addiction or what you've been through and come out the other side I know they then have the power to see this agenda and it makes it makes us unique but when you go let's not say any of the please don't say any words because you'll be my like my first guest that I've asked not to that actually doesn't right every guest I plead not to say the words and and I know I get that right but let's just say you went in a in a certain place at the moment and and everyone was like behaving in a certain way but you were the only one that wasn't I mean you like in some sort of future fantasy world that Will Smith would star in right I'm talking it's that weird right I've had my son with me on uh three occasions when let's just say a person in a position of responsibility um you know what I'm trying to say has come over and challenged me uh four times twice it's ended up with me getting ejected with my little boy from the establishment twice it's just turned around with me saying under what under what legal basis right do you do you do you understand that the discrimination laws in this country what you're asking me for you're not allowed to ask me right what do they do they fuck off because they realize they're muppets you know but I had it I had it in Tesco's every week but mind just let me finish my point my point is if I was like in this certain place and let's say 75 people were were doing the thing but there was 25 gun fuck that shit no no my children are more important I'm a fucking warrior I'm a hero to to my children I care about their future I'm not letting them be be enslaved by this um right that then I'll be like with you yes it's you know there but but the fact that that those people exist I don't think it's as much as 25 as although we'd like like to think so because we live in a bit of an echo chamber with fellow similar minds so yeah it fools us at thinking that like you know there's loads of us the thing like this but but the thing is the fact that there are some but they're all doing the thing they're all doing the thing right they are the cowards because they know it's wrong but they still do it anyway because they're afraid and this is the thing until we can get to the bottom of what is it that keeps people in that fear what is it about our education system that keeps people left-brained creatures for life the vast majority I'm talking 99 right nine you you say we won't go and invade so and so because they they'd cry what I I only have to look out the window and see it's just a continuation of the you know that if you ever doubt saying you've been letting people off their journey you know it's like it's like you know like I've got to a place in my life now where I've had to learn to I've been out recently and my partner says to me don't let it wind you up so don't let it wind you up and because I totally hear where you're coming from I totally thought like so I have to practice on a regular basis breathing techniques all that stuff to the way I've it's almost like going through life with a space suit on and not and then it's trying to go well what do I every time every time I get a situation that rubs me up the wrong way and I totally hear where you're coming from and I totally feel the way you felt felt about certain where I had a confrontation with in Tesco was only about a month two months ago where I walked in you said the word did I we weren't going to say the words okay go on mate go on I think that can edit that one out no it's just make the other day I put the video out and I purposely put in what I had to edit out of it just to pass it on some of these platforms right just to show people the agenda that we're under you're not allowed to do this not allowed to talk about this not allowed to talk about this not allowed to talk about this not allowed to talk about right all of those whichever platform on the internet you are on you cannot right no what happened to freedom of speech is our inalible right you know what happened fighting against tyranny what happened to you know what happened to exchange in information because sometimes you're going to be wrong sometimes you're going to be ah what's that what's that saying is is don't don't hate the players that love the game don't hate the game love the game hate hate the players it's just got a box clever and that's what you're doing and that's the thing isn't it it's like it's get back into enjoying it's just a game is was it with Bill Hicks said it's just a ride is it Bill Hicks said yeah it's just a ride but our kids now can't just hop on a plane I'm going to backpack the world like I did no you know not yet not yet not yet well you know there will be things measures happens when you stop people doing something what happens when you stop people doing so what happens when you tell your kids right don't do this don't do this what do they do it's not just that mate my child now has to grow up in a world with a completely distorted view of what illness is right I'm not saying anything more on that I'm just saying what about going to the gym eating alkaline diet being healthy breathing exercise all of that stuff it's been shelling they're learning but your your son is learning from you that's what you got to remember you're you learn off your parents you don't learn you learn a little bit from school you learn a little bit yeah but I'm not I'm not just talking about my son mate am I I'm talking about all the children and most of them are in the 99% they're not going to get this info they're going to get their ear based propaganda but are you they're not watching they're not watching the mainstream the people are watching the mainstream is our parent generations they're watching the mainstream you film me with a bit with a bit of hope you've got I'm telling you I'm working on a building site at the moment 18 to 21 year olds right they are having the time of their life and like every morning when I'm going in and I said what's happened last night what you've been doing they they they're they are doing they are doing everything we did in the 90s and more right because they've got a way of connecting with the internet and when they go on this snapchat stuff there's no the snapchat can't be monitored apparently by so they've got ways of doing stuff that I said because they're like the other days like they were doing stuff and I said what are you doing there they said oh we're putting I said you're putting that on social media they went no snapchat it can't be monitored they find a way Chris they'll find a way that's what's beautiful about life you can't control it what happens with nature when you try to control it all right can I I'm going to bring it back then because I know people listen and again they this is validity for them this these kind of conversations is what we've been denied for our whole lives due to the the establishments that we've both been talking about so here's the thing right I don't want for anything money can't make me happy I've got everything in life I've ever dreamed about and I've achieved everything that I ever wanted to right um so basically I say this a lot but I live in paradise every day okay it could be so easy mate than rather to be having these conversations which if you're a trauma if you've experienced trauma in your life it just triggers it all you know this confrontation all this kind of stuff is just like you're walking down a fiery path of people sticking spears into you for for telling the truth right burn the heretics yeah but for telling the truth right so mate I easily could go and sit in my back garden bit of sun on my face reading amazing books that my friends have written it's Mark Wilkinson yeah hey I'm Mark you've got a shout out mate DJ Mark Wilkinson don't forget to get this bad boy in this is for your coffee table oh wow let's get we'll get a link for that soldier of consequence right here's another one look yeah have I got time to read this this is sent to me by a publisher for it for a guest on the show I'd love to sit in my garden mate really right it's Sunday I'm working right so what I'm trying to say is I can I don't have the the anger right I don't I'm not angry with the BBC I understand who they are and what what they function in this matrix right yeah I get it I could you know go and just go to the beach for the day well whatever whatever the scenario is but my thing mate is to me that would make me selfish to to to peel away from what's going on and not try to open people's eyes as to the reality that they're living in and yeah and thus free our young future generations of this slavery that that's that well you know what did you what what did you think of penitent do you because you watched penitent didn't you yes I did mate yeah because not many people have seen it I've only shown it to like 30 people yeah it so friends at home penitent I think we should keep this short now Martin because otherwise yeah yeah yeah I think we've gone on for three hours and you can edit it down whatever whatever we want we don't I don't tend to do that to be honest just only one when we go and make a cup of tea but uh yeah great film Martin's made penitent it's about a guy that let's just say fuck fuck's up in combat and his colleagues get killed and then when he comes back to the UK he's living with a guilt and the shame and the the trauma of seeing them executed and this kind of thing don't mention the spoiler though that's in the film don't you okay I will mention the spoiler and it's powerful it talks about the journey of emancipation the one that we've all taken is very similar for over you know you go through the the anger the the the drugs the alcohol what whatever it might be the the detachment from your relationships from your family that this lack of that the frustration that people just don't you know get it this kind of thing and then it also introduces what I call the angels and I'm not saying that to sound fluffy it's just on my journey there was there was two of them right two people went when everyone else left my life everyone we're actually I'm going to say three three people that had the integrity or the sense of self to come out and say Chris you're a good guy right that's that's all they needed to say in this quagmire of you know what what what there she says like you're a good guy you don't need to be doing this shit to yourself you don't need to be doing just just so I call them the angels and that that you know we spoke about if I say the French man we we we understand that in your in your film did you the French the Frenchman Guy who plays that though he's he was I told him your feedback every day and he was moved by that and I said I'm cool we're friends now oh yeah he's a lovely bloke Trinity he's really nice and again Mark Ryan as well who was in who he was in who does wins because I saw your recent podcast about who does wins he was he played the terrorist in who does wins you get shot by the SES team when they come into the house and he knew Lewis Collins and I think we should finish up just by me congratulating you on on on just all of it you know oh thanks man I appreciate just all of it and it and it's all good nothing is bad as I'm always saying we don't live in the past we only go we only go forward um I think there'll be more to this chat we should do definitely make we should do do definitely do more because it it's I'm happy to talk about the therapy side some other time with the PTSD because yes it might save some lives that's why I mean if you just one person saves one person's life they get help you know because the therapy stuff you know because you know I do I do still have PTSD I thought I didn't have PTSD I thought I'd got rid of it I thought I'd but I do still suffer from PTSD and that's been you know for the last year has been problematic for me but I do feel I'm in a lot better place to deal with my situation and penitent coming out if it saves one life as well when you watch that film if it stops somebody from taking a life getting help and then sorting herself out then it was worth making you know I got I got kidnapped as a child did you yeah so albeit for like two hours but during that two hours what what they were trying to do to me and my sister wasn't you know it's fine what age were you then oh six or maybe seven and then then that sets it out for the rest of your life I give in to give you and I to people at home an idea of like the trauma the traumas I went through I once got attacked by a dog like a feral sheep dog on a farm yeah me and my mates have been playing on this this rope swing out in the in the nature and this dog had come up befriended us and it loved it we were thrown sticks and it was it was a dog right my friends all left to go home and I'm still there swinging on this stick and um the dog came up and I thought it's you know just attacked me mate right just jumped up got his uh fangs into my scalp I could feel it just clamping down on me and it was argh and obviously I'm in shock obviously it's just you know further trauma I went home I didn't even tell my parents not not because I was trying to hide any no no it I didn't know that when stuff like that happens to you you should tell your parents about it and then they'll go oh come on and they'll make it better that that wasn't in my life you know that internalization of such traumas from such a young age I can do I didn't have the skills to process it right so it's gone in there it's gone into the you know it's it's it's not even compartmentalized in my mind it's in a place that as an adult now I have the ability to address it you know to put measures in place so it doesn't control my life right um control my behaviors just like you know the drinking and all all this kind of stuff um but you say I think my peter it's it's I think it's in us mate and it's okay you know it's okay it's I I think we if people say god's chosen ones I think we're mother nature's chosen ones because we we get given a gift off the back of this and it's a gift only only you and I understand you know and others understand and I mean yeah it may maybe other people do that haven't been to through such trauma and that's just great credit to them probably had really good parents I'm guessing yeah most people are oblivious they call us names they they you know they alienate us from such they use words like smack head and crack head and ouchy and and and drunk and and uh tramp and bum and and all these things because they don't get it you know if you don't feel if you find that place inside your heart where it doesn't matter what anyone calls you you know I mean that like I've got this great soldier written on my thumb and no because it used to bother me but now because I don't feel a disgrace soldier and I just look at it it's just it's just it's just a it doesn't mean shit it doesn't mean anything to me because I know who I know I know I'm good but we know it's a badge of honor that's why I've got psychosis crystal meth psychosis on the front of my brain because it's the proudest thing that ever happened to me the same as your experience should be the proudest thing that ever happened to you and to anyone watching it go out write a book make a film do do express it because by doing that you're inspiring others to to um to overcome whatever it is they want to overcome you know and become in the master of destiny that's the thing that must do in destiny and being at peace for yourself and forgiving let go of the rope that's the biggest thing I went I didn't see my kids for three years and I had to go to court and whatnot when I stopped going to court let go of the road stop fighting I got to see my kids again and it's that's there's a massive powerful message in that if you if you fight if you want to tie the wall with someone what happens you get calluses you get rope burns if you let go of the rope what happens to what happens to the people on the other side they all fall over don't they yes and it we'll continue this on another one we'll do we'll do a part two we'll do a therapy one we'll talk about all the therapy stuff and that that we both understand and have been through yes so Martin I'm going to let you get back to your sunbed because I can I can see you're missing it no yeah thank you very much mate and and as you say let's pick this up again to friends at home if you could please like and subscribe um and support these kind of conversations because this this is for our children's future isn't it you know these are the conversations that they've just not taken place until until now and it's uh you know someone has to have them someone has to listen to them and people have to invest invest in it so if you like and subscribe that'd be great much love to you all see you soon i will stay cheers buddy


There are hundreds of people who think they are possessed and all this. There is a science like that. One can use energies negatively to cause harm to somebody else. A cobra also has a certain influence on this life simply because it holds its breath for long periods of time. Don't take body lightly, it's not a small imprisonment. But when one realizes how they got him, now they know how to live. This disembodied life has no discriminatory mind. It will tend to go by its tendencies. Whatever karmic substance which is still not dissolved, which will… which will form a certain type of tendency, will drive it in certain directions. Certain directions means wherever there is life and the life is of such a nature that it breeds minimally. For example, a tamarind tree. If you go and watch the other trees, you will see a lot of birds will be sitting. For the night's rest, no bird will settle down on a tamarind tree because the level of oxygen around a tamarind tree is extremely low. It may also move in the direction of a yogi who has a certain mastery over his breath because he is not breathing as much as others are breathing. A cobra also has a certain influence on this life simply because it holds its breath for long periods of time. There are hundreds of people who think they are possessed and all this. There is a science like that. One can use energies negatively to cause harm to somebody else. It's mostly receded. Very little of that is happening. But if you live in certain areas, certain parts of the country, this is very rampant. One thing is, if you have such impacts, you come and sit in the sphere of the analinga because there are occult dimensions to the analinga which just nullifies all this. One paornami or amavasya when you think are more receptive for you, just one day, just sit there and go, that's all. It's taken care of. Your physical body is something that you have loaned from the planet on which you're living. When the time comes, the planet will claim it back. But the other dimensions of you, especially the karmic shell, continues to play. If it is in a certain level of awareness, the disembodied being is in a certain state of pleasantness. It is this that is being referred to as heaven because they have left their physical body in a certain state of awareness. They enjoy the sweetness at a certain period of time. A holiday, a vacation before you take on another physical body. Similarly, if people live in certain states of fear, anxiety, anger, in certain states of ignorance, the karmic shell has acquired a certain kinds of unpleasantness about itself. This unpleasantness is what we refer to as hell. Normally when somebody dies to say, this person is no more, but that's not the truth. There's no more the way you experience it, but it's still easy in any other way. Don't take body lightly. It's not a small imprisonment. Unless you break it open, you cannot leave it, isn't it? But when one realizes how they got him, now they know how to leave. The person consciously shifts the body without damaging the body in any way. Like you shed your clothes, you shed your body really consciously. Then we said this is mahasama. When a person leaves like this, truly no more. Once again, whatever you call it in my self, and just dissolve it into the body… Houses. Do they possess you? Satguru demystifies the dead. When a person dies, and his information is not done, his prarabdha is not done, then life is still vibrant, but body is gone. Whatever karmic substance which is still not dissolved, which will form a certain type of tendency, will drive it in certain directions. There are many aspects to it. If I say these things, you will start imagining things tonight.


This is Orson Wells speaking from London the black museum the famous repository of death Here in the grim stone structure on the Thames, which houses Scotland yard is a warehouse of homicide Where everyday objects and earthenware parts of silver shilling typewriter ribbon all are touched by murder Four small bottles other familiar objects medicine bottles shining glass cork stopper The labels in neat clear handwriting such bottles are in the medicine cabinet of almost every home These were found Found one inspector to unsize the others can't be far. Yes here are two more one ounce capacity these Here's the fourth Innocent little things aren't they sir? Today those four small bottles have a place a very honored place in the black museum From the annals of the criminal investigation department of the London police We bring you the dramatic stories of the crimes recorded by the objects in Scotland Yards gallery of death the black museum Scotland Yards Museum of murder yes here lies death In these hundreds and hundreds of objects large and small Is the means to death a thousand methods of killing all neatly labeled to indicate who and what and where? There's a kitchen mop Longhandle gray with youth gray where the red brown stain fails to cover the gravestone Look closely at the harsh metal binds the strings of this utensil. Yes, this blade struck and struck again for the mop itself removed the traces of the crime Yeah, there's four small bottles Three of one ounce capacity one holds two ounces They mark a strange story a story out of the Edwardian era when man was still lord of all he surveyed and women were just beginning to demand equality To the ladies irreverent although I would prefer to shouldn't have been something slightly stronger than tea to the ladies my friend To listen to my husband Reverend who think he was old-fashioned and not an advanced thinker for this age I an advanced thinker why and but you are Oscar you really are but the risk of shocking you Reverend But then you're a young man and not I assume was easily sucked to some past is unknown I believe a man should have two wives Really? He means it Reverend listen to him. I believe a man needs two wives One to cook so and care for the household with the other to be a companion when a man needs intellectual Stibulation to lend beauty to the drawing room and grace and wit then you would give the latter education exactly and Since I am not allowed to wives. I chose the latter I don't know here Reverend you you don't know that I married and when she was very young and Sent into Brussels and then a French university for her education before installing her here as my wife Why why that's unheard of sir you are a pioneer in the field Oh, yes, mr. Oscar stone wholesale grocer and a man of means was truly advanced for his age the age of 1999 and very liberal in his philosophies In fact, he was so considerate of his wife and of the difference between her age and his own That he encouraged rather than look to scants at a companionship with the Reverend Edgar sweet A much much younger man than mr. Stone himself Edgar you've been a good friend to me these past months. I'm happy to hear you say so That is why well, I'm not hesitating to tell you something which I feel is rather Unfair tell me what it is Oscar has drawn his will. He's my friend my good friend I'd hate to see him pass on but every man must have his house in order Edgar. You don't understand Making the will is all right. It's what he's put in it go on my dear He has left me his entire estate Provided I never marry again. That is his right, you know, it's not his right He's afraid someone might marry me after he's gone for the money. He's only protecting you from fortune hunters and then Why did he give me an education if he doesn't think enough of me to let me protect myself a serpent in Eden perhaps Perhaps not But it is clear that the young lady had a will of her own and wanted to control her own destiny in any case the friendship ripened Not only between the two young people but between Edgar and Oscar as well Edgar my friend. I'm not well. I saw a doctor there. I am not well I can't believe it. You look fine fine the Debilitation of a but you're not old or 55 isn't old when you work As hard as I have for almost 50 of those 55 years well in any case I've decided to take a risk excellent Oscar. That's what you need an extended vacation I've made arrangements to go to the shore a month at the sea or to practically rejuvenate me I'll miss you Talks have been a great stimulus to my work and I thought it's well even pastors have vacations occasionally Occasionally we do of course so I reserved accommodations for you along with Anna myself, but I can't possibly Of course my guest you don't know how much I appreciate this Oscar, but I couldn't accept I'm sorry. I thought you were alone Oscar. I'm glad you came in and yet. I was telling Edgar We're going to the shore for a month I'm insisting that Edgar come along as my guest. How can I accept such an invitation kill him? You will find him as welcome as I will and of course. I'll find him welcome Oscar Edgar knows They compromised Edgar came for weekends the ripening of a friendship or the growth of a triangle a classic triangle Husband wife and the young man The summer ended Oscar and Dan returned to new lodgings in Pimlico and they took an additional room Edgar you like it bookcases A couch a fine desk all this room. How could I help liking it and in here Right next door. Edgar my boy. Welcome to your new lodgings now. We are not only friends We are neighbors really Oscar. I don't know. Are you there was more and rather interesting One afternoon while Oscar was at his doctor's office Of course, Ann What is it remember months ago? I told you about Oscar's will uh Oh, yes, I remember Why he took out that awful cloth if I want to I can marry anyone I please one day And you were the executor Everything was quite smooth quite quite smooth In fact, Oscar began to feel quite a bit better at least he said so and insisted that Edgar and Ann accompany him to a horse show Why do you love horses sir Oscar? Perhaps because I always wanted to ride and never learned. Oh, there's a fine animal He must be at least 16 hands high Edgar why don't you take Ann to the stalls to see her favorites? I'll just sit here a while I I guess I'm not as strong as I thought I was will you Edgar please you think you'll be all right here alone It's a picture, isn't it the elderly husband sitting on the bench watching the two young people stroll away What are his thoughts as he sees them disappear in the crowd? What would his thoughts have been if he'd heard their conversation? I'm dreadfully worried about Oscar He seems much better see shorted him good seems as the word He's not not really and What are you telling me that his doctor has confided to me? Oscar may not live out the year The next morning there were signs that Anne's words might become the truth She sent for the doctor a youngish man named Richards who lived some half a mile from the lodgings I don't like this mrs.  Stone. Of course doctor The young doctor was very certain but not Oscar His pain continued Ann was obviously very upset She took Edgar a sign Edgar I want you to do something for me if I can I cannot see Oscar suffer the way he does at times. I I know a way to ease his pain, but I need your help. Of course I want you to buy me some chloroform Chloroform Yes A few drops on a handkerchief, and he will sleep easily I learned about it in the practical nursing classes in Brussels, but But dr. Richards will get you some. No He'll never believe. I know how to use it He has a palm note Please Edgar Edgar went to the nearest chemist shop What can I do for you reverend? I'd like a little chloroform Whatever for sir. I I understand it's good for taking out grease spots. Oh, yes. I suppose it is but be very careful with it Three more times. Edgar walked into chemist shops and bought a small amount of chloroform There are the three one ounce bottles and the one two ounce bottle Out of consideration for Anne's convenience, no doubt Edgar poured the contents of all the small bottles into a larger one And delivered the chloroform to Anne Quite suddenly Oscar became a whole lot better Landlord, I want to speak with the landlord. Yes, mr. Sloan How can I help you? I want to prepare a surprise for my wife and the reverend for tonight to you, sir New year's eve party some roast duck a bit of cold ham Some good cheese a bottle of champagne and a bottle of good brandy It's short notice mr. Stone But I'll do me best What'll you be eating? What everywhere? Everyone else eats And will they be surprised? Oh, I'm feeling wonderful for the first time in months And for breakfast tomorrow, see if your maid can find a had a large one I feel I shall be quite hungry in the morning Oscar wasn't hungry new year's morning Oscar was dead And today the four small bottles which played so large apart in his death Can be seen in the black museum It was a sad new year's day for an stone and a bewildering day for the reverend Edgar sweet Oscar stone husband and friend lay dead quite suddenly And after what seemed an indicated quick recovery But that was only the first event of January first 1910 Onto the scene strode an old man Oscar's 75 year old father Man met him at the door to the stone apartment Yes, yes, of course to cry all you want. I want to see my son He's in here. All right Who is this reverend sweeter our good friend and pastor. Yes. I heard about you Oscar wrote me this moment comes to all of us, sir We can only pray for courage. I've got courage. What I want is facts. I'll see my boy now It looks as if he died in his sleep He did So peacefully I I didn't realize it until morning.  The doctor said he had gastritis father. That's not what I smell Are you having a post mortem? Dr. Richards asked for permission to do one Richards. Who's he the family doctor mr. Stone of fine young man All right, if you want to do it all right, but I want my man there with him father Are you insinuating? I'm not insinuating anything. I just don't like the look of this For his own protection this Richards ought to have another man present. That's all My boy is no right. The second doctor arrived and forthwith behind locked doors. The autopsy was performed In the landlord's parlor and waited with edger to give her support and courage Presently the door opened mrs. Stone. Yes, dr. Richards. We are ready with our report. Did Did you find out anything? We are not certain as yet Dr. Fletcher your father-in-law's man suggests mr. Stone swallowed chloroform chloroform. Yes Will you come upstairs and hear the report please? And yes Did you the chloroform I bought for you that is it's still in its bottle edger Don't worry. You don't even have to mention it Shall we go upstairs now the two young people went upstairs but not hand in hand There was a sudden reserve between them In the room where the doctors and or mr. Stone awaited them This is dr. Fletcher my daughter-in-law past the suite How did you do it was dr. Richards was in charge of the case Perhaps he's the one to give you our official report. Oh, please do dr. Richards. It's a simple report We are unable to find in the natural cause of death The contents of the stomach are suspicious We're holding them for the coroner. Have you any particular suspicions gentlemen? None which we care to state officially You'll realize the room where death occurred has been sealed and its contents must not be touched My my purse is in there. It'll have to stay there. Surely. I may have my coat and and and a hat I assume so if dr. Fletcher's present when you remove them Ann went to stay with a cousin a brief train journey away The coroner's interest was held and adjourned pending a full report from a government analyst And that was all But edger dispatched a note to ann and she met him as he requested in a quiet tea room in pinnaco Edgar what's the matter with you? You haven't looked me straight in the eye since we met today. I Can't seem to help myself Ann Dr. Richards did tell you that oscar might not live out the year Of course he did it came so suddenly they all behave so strangely And I'm afraid I'm finished if this develops into anything. I shall lose my pulpit If you don't do anything foolish, I certainly won't everything's going wrong I I feel as if Ann I bought that chloroform If there is chloroform in the autopsy report And don't you see forget the chloroform forget all about it. I can't Where is it? What's to do with it? I took it with me when I left the apartment Right my coat pocket under the nose of my dear father-in-law I poured it out of the train window then I threw the bottle away. Oh, that makes it worse If they prove that oscar was Don't you see they'll trace the chloroform to me in other words edga You're implying that I gave it to us. I'm not implying anything of the kind. What else are you saying? Edgar you helped me over a bad time Now I think it will be best if we do not see each other anymore Goodbye edga The lady was annoyed perhaps rightly so The young man was frightened very rightly so In their separate ways each awaited the report of the government analyst At long last dr. Richards came to the young widow the news could be a lot worse mrs. Stone They could have found arsenic or one of the slower more common poison. Oh, what have they found doctor poisoning by chloroform Who doctor That is the worst.  I did I had my reasons doctor My married life was not Happy I am young. He was old practically my father He kept putting me in edga's company. I began to When two people are together constantly Please go on this turn I I obtained the chloroform. I kept it in a drawer But I'd never had a sequel from oscar never on any score So I knew he has eve after our party I told him I had it and where it was He spoke to me sadly, but but kindly Grief that I'd been feeling about him as I did Then he went to sleep Or I thought he did The next I knew He was dead Did you look at the bottle? Yes, I couldn't tell how much was gone I took the bottle and I I poured what was in it from the train as I went the autopsy report came to edga as well He wrestled with himself and finally took the only course which seemed open Inspector suede. Yes, come in sir sit down Thank you I understand you have some information in the matter of the death of oscar stone. I do You see I bought the chloroform They should be in here somewhere sergeant if the little parson is telling the truth I'm sure he is He'll let himself in for something with that woman. Didn't he it looks that way leave it to a woman every time grease spots a Not bad for an amateur I suppose this is the gorse patch where he said he threw those small bottles. Yes, this is the place I found one inspector two ounce size so the others can't be far Yes, here are two more One ounce capacity these and here's the fourth Innocent little things aren't they sir? And stone I have a warrant for your arrest on the charge of willful murder of your husband Edgar sweet. I have a warrant for your arrest You stand charged as an accessory before the fact in the murder of oscar stone The trial took place at the next exercises Gentleman of the jury The attorney general who has this case in hand with full knowledge of the facts Will present no evidence against the reverend mr. Sweet You are therefore directed to find him not guilty and I shall order his release at once Edgar sweet left the courtroom a much wiser young man The trial of an stone proceeded And rested entirely on the medical evidence Dr. Fletcher you have described yourself as an expert in criminal toxicology that we have accepted you as such Is that correct? It is on very well Now I call the particular attention of the jury to the answers You will give to these questions as they will have great bearing on the evidence against my client But first sir, have you ever known of a recorded case of murder by liquid chloroform? No Is there any record to your knowledge of the possible Administration of this liquid of anyone pouring it down a victim's throat? There is not if the victim were sleeping for instance the burning would wake him He'd probably go down his windpipe not his gullet and there would be burns clearly visible after death There would be then in your expert opinion, dr. Fletcher Is it impossible to commit murder by liquid chloroform? Nothing's impossible But it's highly improbable. Thank you, doctor. That is all The chief witness of the crown dr. Fletcher Had given his testimony all that remained in the opinion of the defending counsel was to create a A reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury. He called no witnesses But spoke for six hours summing up In essence, he said Oscar Stole was loving if elderly husband. He felt his life was over Remember, he was an eccentric who believed in having two wives Can we say that this man who had given so much to his sweet young wife Was not prepared to give her the greatest gift of all of freedom Once he knew that chloroform was in the house could he not have taken it himself And passed quickly into the coma which ended in death And if he gave this lovely girl freedom, are you who sit in judgment to do any less? The judge was clear if somewhat caustic in his charge to the jury There have been sweet faces which hit guilty consciences before When a young wife and a young man are thrust into daily contact by a doting husband Strange events have a way of taking place All this is true But one salient remains You may find this woman guilty as charged Only if no reasonable doubt exists in your minds that she did commit the crime of which she stands The jury deliberated for over two hours. They were 12 solemn men when they filed back into the jury box A handstone rose to face them The clerk asked for the verdict The foreman rose and spoke clearly We have considered the grave suspicions in this case But find no evidence that would indicate who administered the poison to the victim We find the accused therefore not guilty But despite that perhaps surprising verdict of not guilty The four famous small bottles can be seen today in the black museum Arson Welles will be back with you in just a moment No double jeopardy That's an ancient english law no double jeopardy One canopy tried twice for the same offense It was felt therefore that since Ann Stone had been acquitted if she had committed this crime She ought to tell the world how it had been done But no All that was heard thereafter from Ann Stone was a letter addressed to a defending counsel Tread his followers Dear Sir Edward I feel I owe my life to your earnest effort I have not been a good woman and my temptations have been terrible But though I have not kept my vows You will judge me mercifully And they are the case rests And now until we meet next time in the same place and I tell you another story about the black museum I remain as always obediently yours