Welcome to our new commissioners, which is such an exciting time when we have new people joining our group. And I see Iris is now on screen. Iris Hannon, correct? Is that how you say it? All right, we are so excited that you're with us today. That's just amazing. Did Angela give you any warning that we would be asking you to maybe tell us a little bit about yourself, Iris? Yeah, she did. All right. I was just getting over because I thought somehow maybe you guys had been meeting for a while and I came in it in too late, but no, this is the time you meet at six, right? Okay. I'm a bit of an artist, a textile artist, and I have two daughters that are artists. And I came from a town a few years ago, Naperville, Illinois, that had a really big public art program as well, which I always enjoyed. I was not actually involved with it, but I got excited about being involved in the one out here because I have two daughters that are artists and they encouraged me to buy any art for my new home from local artists. And so I just kind of am really into the movement and really happy to be on board. So. Oh, that's so exciting. We're so glad to have you. Thank you. Hopefully the next time we meet, we'll take some time and we'll go kind of round Robin and you can meet all the commissioners. We have some that are missing for this week, so maybe it'd be best to do that next month. So, but we're super glad to have you. How long have you been in Longmont? I moved here in 2018. So right now we're here. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're glad you're here and thanks for joining us. Thank you. We also have another new commissioner. Her name is Stephanie Burris and it doesn't look like Stephanie got on the call today. So hopefully next month we'll be able to introduce her as well. So thanks and welcome. We, with our last set of commissioners or new commissioners that came on board, we actually started kind of a new process where we had developed a little bit of a mentorship where we attached a season commissioner with the new on board commissioner coming on board commissioner. And that one of those folks last time around was Danielle. She was one of our newest folks. And so we were wondering if Danielle would give us potentially a little bit of feedback from how that mentorship went the last time around when she came on board. If you're comfortable, Danielle, if not, we can talk outside of this. No, that's totally fine. I think that with being COVID it was really tough because unfortunately, Randy and I never really were able to meet up and I feel like I've been in this little moment of limbo which of course is changing now that we're able to actually be able to meet up but I can see it being incredibly beneficial. It's a lot. It's definitely, I've never been a part of a commission before so it's been a huge learning curve and I'm definitely glad to know that if I do have any questions, I can reach out to Randy and I still feel like through the year I will utilize that and especially as we get more involved and out a little bit more. Well, thanks so much for that feedback. Angela and I had kind of talked about this and we decided that we would trial it that last time around and hopefully as we go forward, we can help to put a little bit more structure to the mentoring program and so this time around we thought that it might be best for some of our executive team members to actually take on that mentorship role so that we can kind of develop some sort of a nice tool that we make sure that every new commissioner that comes on board actually gets a pretty standard set of information that will help them to kind of meld quickly into the group as well as feel comfortable and get the information that they need initially so that they're successful going forward. So with that said, out of the executive team that's here is there anyone that would like to come alongside myself and Angela and help to create a more formal mentoring program? Randy? Okay. All right, Erin too. That sounds great. So with that said, Iris, we will get you a mentor but give us a little bit of time to decide the best way to process through that and by next meeting we'll have somebody assigned to you so that you can kind of integrate quickly into our group. So once again, we're really happy that you're here. So, yeah. All right. So Angela, number eight has to do with our live in-person meetings. You wanna talk about that? Yeah, so poor Iris got the best of me today. I just, I think that I'm just like super jazzed and I had two pots of coffee and she got all two pots. But as of 3-41, I think yesterday our wonderful city manager officially declared no longer emergency situation. Formally, Boulder County is at 2.2% infection rate and so while of course the city has invited boards and commissions to open up a little more after city council met the first time I just wanted to make sure to throw that out there because I think that that's a pretty significant statement as we consider as a group to me. The only thing that I would say that has come from the city clerk's office is and I can say in a test myself, the hybrid option, if we can avoid hybrid option until at least a policy procedure or someone has actually investigated that opportunity and has executed it effectively, it is absolutely my preference to kind of choose one route and stick with that route. So either meeting in person, masked, socially distant, figuring out what that looks like, what the conditions are to meet in person or depending upon the commission's feeling to stick with virtual. So I'm actually gonna turn it over to Cindy because she and I were talking about this when we volunteered our time on Saturday. We discussed it and she actually has a really good approach because I think that as people talk about their vaccinations or not, it's kind of a personal thing. I am vaccinated and I'm excited to say that on behalf of myself, but I know that that's not the way that everyone feels. So Cindy, do you wanna give us your brilliant, brilliant idea? Not my brilliant idea, but it is a brilliant idea. My, I have another group that's been meeting by Zoom and we met for the first time on Saturday in person and the president of that group sent out a thing that said because people have a different level of comfort in enclosed spaces, I'd like to propose a color-coded comfort check. For the AIPP, when we meet hopefully next month, there will be colored dots by the door to indicate your comfort level. If you're not fully vaccinated, two weeks from your second shot, please also wear a mask. If you put on a green dot, that lets everybody know you're fully vaccinated and feel free to give me a hug or a handshake or whatever. If you have a yellow dot, you're fully vaccinated, but don't hug me. I don't really want to have personal contact with people. And if you have a red dot, you're just uncomfortable with close contact or not fully vaccinated. And you don't have to say it either way, but you have the green, yellow, red, like a stoplight. To let people know how comfortable you are with personal contact. How does that sound to people? I think it's a super idea. And just to clarify, you do not, to attend a meeting, you do not have to state whether you are or are not vaccinated. Just so you know, to participate in a meeting that is not required, but using that scale, and also recognizing that to meet, we have to of course abide by state and city laws and recommendations. So the green, yellow, red, really is more about your comfort level and not an indicator directly if you are or are not vaccinated. But again, it's a choice thing, right? Okay. So Angela, a quick question. Would we be meeting in the auditorium as opposed to our room upstairs that's really small? Or... We'll be meeting in a room. It won't be the auditorium. It will likely be Kaiser AB. Okay. So, and again, thinking longer, right? Further out. Thursday night's coincidentally is concert night at the museum. And so there will be concerts happening in the auditorium and the other meeting room is used as the green room. So we'll be in that other room, but yes, spread out. Yes, you know, we will be able to... Yeah. So the... So a classroom basically. And it is bigger than that conference room because that's not gonna work. Yeah. So that's where we held the workshop this couple of weeks ago, right? So yeah, for folks that haven't been in that room, it's really a pretty large room. And so it would not be difficult for us to be all well spaced out if we felt like we needed to be. So do we want to... Do you have anybody else have any other questions or comments about us meeting either way? I'll just say Pam's in the waiting room. So let's admit her before we go further into the conversation. All right. Just a quick second. And also maybe while we wait for her to come in, again, the meetings have to be open. So we just need to be mindful that while 99.9% of the time, it does just, it ends up being the 15 of us, Marcia, a couple of staff people, so a little less than 20. Because it's an open meeting, we of course have to be accommodating to anyone who we want to join us, right? So just in thinking about capacity and your comfort level, there is that, right? Okay, good point. Hey Pam, can you hear us? We can't hear you, Pam, if you're there.  It looks like she's got both windows up though already. Okay. Oh yeah. Hey Pam. Yes. You're there. Welcome. I am. We're glad we can't see you though today. I don't know why. Okay. We can hear you though. Okay, that's good. We're in the middle of a discussion about the, oh, there you are, we can see you. We're in the middle, we're talking about the potential of meeting in person for our meeting that's coming up August 19th. And so we're just kind of discussing whether we as a group are going to either continue to do virtual or we're gonna go ahead and meet in person. Anybody else have any comments regarding our next meeting being in person? Go ahead, Noah. I just wanna say that I'm for it. It'll be nice. Me too. Okay. After the class, I really enjoyed seeing people. Yeah, me too. So do we need to make a motion and vote on whether we're going to meet in person next month? I think we should because I understand if for some reason we did go virtual, we have to now that the emergency declaration is over, there's some legal beagle we have to do to continue meeting virtually. So just for the record's sake, I think it's helpful. Okay. I'll make a motion. I'll make a motion that our next meeting in August will be in person and that we should adopt the yellow, the green, yellow, red guideline for people who would like to do that. Okay, do we have a second? I second. Make a motion. Okay. All in favor, say, hand raise. All in favor. All, anybody opposed? Okay. Looks like we're gonna meet in person next month, August 19th. Yes, that's gonna be exciting. Thank you. Thank you for that. I look forward to it. And as we were talking before the meeting started, hopefully things aren't gonna change in terms of what happens with COVID over the next couple of weeks and we'll get to meet in person for a couple of months, we're hoping. So, okay, is it time to move to number nine, which is Creative Culture AIPP Workshop Debrief. So I was totally amazed to have sat through that workshop a couple of weeks ago with Brian Corrigan. And I know a lot of you had the opportunity to sit through it too. So we thought we'd just take some time to kind of do a debrief, talk about what we think went really well, some ideas that you were excited about or things that you think we could do differently if we were to meet again. So we'll go ahead and open up the floor to your ideas or your input or any feedback. I thoroughly enjoyed it and really appreciated getting to interact with everybody again. And it was definitely worthwhile my time for sure. Yeah, agreed. I'm embarrassed to say that, well, first of all, we had a great time and I loved it. And I can't remember what we came up with because I actually did not keep the piece of paper we were scribbling on. The gal that was in my group, Susan, and I don't know her last name, worked for the city and she was supposed to get in contact with we and then we were gonna move ahead toward something. And I don't know. But it was a very creative process. That is really the truth. The facilitator was great. And he didn't steal a feeling of creativity in the room. I think all of us felt that. So I think it was well worth the time spent. Yeah. And also the biscuits and gravy were really good. Oh yeah, great food. Yeah, no, I agree. The whole thing was really fun. It did get like the creative juices flowing. But it is kind of hard to pick up where we left off. So if there was, the only thing I guess I would recommend is as a last step where like we make a plan of how we're gonna take those ideas and put them into action before we even leave that kind of a scenario. I think it would be great for the participants. Those of us who were there just to get together again to outline what it is we wanna present and follow through on. I think that would be time well spent also. I'd like to do that. Randy, I think you were gonna say something. Oh yeah, so what I gathered, the positive thing I gathered was, I guess building relationships and meeting people. I attended the closing ceremony for the museum exhibit of the Impressionists. And Justin, one of the museum guys was there and he's like, don't I know you? I'm like, yeah. And he's like, oh yeah. So that was really cool. And I got the card of the city of Longmont communications person. So just, and I met Steve Reisweiler. So just putting faces to names and now they know who we are and we know who they are. So that just helps a lot when you're working with people in different groups. But Laurel, I totally agree with you. I think that's a great idea maybe to enact a task force, but just a quick one to get together and figure out what we did learn and how we can apply it going forward. Yeah. That would be great. And this sooner, I think, this is- Yeah, before we forget it. Maybe next week sometime, a lunch or, and whatever, I'm totally flexible. I don't care what time it is. Yeah. Danielle, did you have any feedback you wanted to give on the presentation? You were there. I wasn't there. Oh, you weren't there? Oh, I thought you were. I wish you were there. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. It's okay. It's okay. So, Angela, what are our next steps? So interestingly, the initiative and the goal for the workshop was really met, which was to start thinking about a project in an opposite way, which is where the creativity aspect comes first, and then to get our city partners to start thinking that way too, and then knowing that we have this opportunity in September to bring it together.  We had nine city staff people, not including myself. We had representation from communications, the web and social media person for the city. We had someone who is working deeply in equity and works for sustainability and resilience. We had Steve Ranzweiler, who is our friend from Parks, and we also, I'm missing some communications. Who am I missing? Oh, and Aaron Fosdick, who is a principal developer. So really we took a spectrum, a representative of a wide spectrum from the city, and brought them around the table to talk about. The thing that clicked with me was that Forbes 500 CEOs, one of the top three characteristics they want in leaders of the future are creative people, right? So we're just trying to recognize that the standard way of going about art and public places of course is valuable and will always be there. And there's also these opportunities of storytelling in unique and fun ways that is really very interactive and participatory, but also solves problems. So we did realize at the end that what was a half day workshop really needed to be a full day workshop. It was an introduction to creative place making for most people in the room. I didn't anticipate that. I thought we would kind of be about a half and half, and really this was an introduction for most folks. So the next step is that Brian has offered for included in our fee for this professional development to do a second session, and so in August. So we have two options. We can do the second session as its own independent individual dates that we can come up with, or we can utilize our August meeting time on the 19th for the second session with the goal to have most people participate. And also knowing that you didn't need to really go to part one will give you resources to investigate and then be able still to actively participate in part two. So that's kind of the where we are. And then again, the goal coming out of this is to come up with a project that we will fund and execute that's participatory for the 150th year of kind of celebrating Longmont that's executed at the Art Walk on September 11th. So, or we don't have to, of course, and we can kind of build on independently what we've learned and go, like you say, do a task force and take the ideas that were generated and just come up with something that way. So, yep, that's it. So it sounds like with the feedback we've received from the folks that attended that it might be good to go ahead and do a second session is their preference of whether we do one outside of the meeting or whether we do it during the next commission meeting. I think it would be great to do it at the next commission meeting because this is really a lead-in to determining what we're going to do if we're gonna do anything major going forward for that September 11th date. So I think it would be great if we could all participate in the second session knowing that even if you didn't attend the first, you'll be fine and we'll be able to catch you up to speed with how we develop through this next session. Anybody else have ideas about how you'd like to proceed? I think to have that development as part of a two-hour commissioner meeting like this is gonna be very difficult unless we don't conduct any business and just use that two hours for the catch up for the other people that way, because that's at least how long he would need, I would think two hours. I would agree, it seems like we might be overtaxing ourselves and just the length of that meeting would be a bit much. So I would recommend breaking it up into two separate events. Yeah, for a separate session completely. And the way we should start out next time is give us the structure first of what we're doing. Like he had some sheets there of identify the problem. There was some definite milestones that that's why we were there and that's what we need to know in order to put forth a successful project. So really going over those steps first and then jumping into maybe solving a problem. Would it be helpful if the facilitator and myself took, and some of the things that Holly and Brian and I spoke about was took, if you will, the bones of some of the conversations because there were threads through everything, the project that everyone had kind of come up with, there's a thread through all of them. So if we broke those potentials into a skeleton on large post-its and then actually spend the second part putting the constructing on to that skeleton was one of the ideas for the second session. Is the goal to come up with a project and do it? Okay, based on all the ideas that we had. Yep. That's asset driven that there's a piece of public art that comes out of it that is the voice of the community. And so I think to your point, correct, we need to understand what the different projects were. And yes, they were all tied in some way, but what were they and then we can vote on which one we want to proceed with and use a lot of post-it notes. How I am about office supplies. Love me some post-it notes. I love office supplies. Okay, Holly and I, I think we'll chat about this and get some dates. Right now, as you all know, the Saturdays are like fully loaded. Every single Saturday through July is shock art business. And so maybe, how did Saturday work everyone in the morning or is an evening during the week more preferable, more preferable, preferable, just preferable? Saturday morning works for me. Either one works for me. So I'm happy to do either one. I'm more likely to be able to attend things on a Saturday, especially if it's in the morning or early afternoon. Yeah, with biscuits and gravy and egg and fruit. Free food is one of my favorite things. Free food. So Angela, I'm not sure how long of a session Brian has committed to for us. But I'm thinking even if we looked at the next meeting and didn't have our typical communication about all of our projects and just kind of put that meeting aside just to do some workshop too. Or, you know, however you'd want to look at that. I'm wondering if that would fit more into what his plan was in terms of how he agreed to proceed with us with this. So because we spent most of our workshop in the beginning session, the beginning points of kind of connecting the dots of strategies and some other projects that have happened in the realm of creative placemaking, we ended up not having as much time as was initially allotted for that second portion, which is the important portion, right? And so at that aha moment, it was like, okay, we really need to get all the way through the second portion. So I do think it's another like a two hour with a little bit of a break, right? So it'll still be broken into two pieces, but maybe one with more direction and like what that skeleton is. And like Randy said, kind of coming about the, this is the direction we want to go. And then the second part is really constructing that. And yeah. And again, open meetings. So as long as we have quorum and in participants of the commission, then of course, if we want to vote on something that that can happen, it can be a special session, it's no problem, right? Okay. Okay. So with that said, is it still the general feeling that we want to do a Saturday session or would we consider doing our next meeting on August 19th and not having the normal business that we would do during a meeting and just devoting that time to workshop to or the further development of these plans? Anybody have any suggestions or ideas? Agree? Disagree? I mean, it sounds like from Angela that Brian is committed to maybe two more hours, Angela. So at this point, it might be harder to do a four hour session because we may have to look at renegotiating. No, okay. I think we're, I think we will accomplish the goal and he is committed to getting us there. Okay. Yeah, I think whatever works for the majority is the way we should go. So if Saturday morning is it, then Saturday morning is it. Yeah. Okay. So is it best that I just send out, I'll send out a doodle poll with dates. I will also include our regularly scheduled Thursday night as a portion of that because there are people who will potentially want to join us. I can say that I'm not 100% sure that our staff folks would participate again, but I do know after speaking with them at length that it's great. We kind of have put the B in there bonnet, right? And they have gone back to their different pods within the city. And so there's definitely a, you know, there's a buzz and they're looking forward to what this is and what it'll look like. So, okay, that's what I'll do unless any objections. I think that's a great move forward. Okay. Sounds good. All right. So it looks like we're at number 10, which is public art project updates. And it looks like shock art is first on the agenda. Cindy and Randy looks like you guys may have some input into shock art. Cindy, you're on mute. We're voting. We're voting downtown and we're voting online and we're busy telling votes. I'm busy telling votes. I put it on my Facebook page. The ballot box at the Old Town Marketplace was full in two days, three days. Absolutely packed full. So that's good. That's a good turnout. Are we gonna be able to get a sandwich board to put out front? Cool. Not gonna be here by Saturday though. And people that I talked to actually the sidewalk chalk worked pretty well. It rained of course. So I'm gonna have to do that. But that's okay. So next Saturday I'll get out there earlier and do my sidewalk chalk business. But yes, sandwich board will be much better. So yeah. And the city is being modest. I mean, Cindy did come and help me photograph all the boxes because some of the feedback that we had last year was that the photographs were different. So the scales of the model would be varied and it's because I took pictures just kind of as they came in rather than just setting up a station and doing them all at once. So Cindy and I problem solved that which thank you very much. And then the setup piece of it, Danielle. And I spent an exciting morning with table delivery and chatting people up at Old Town Marketplace to kind of give them talking points on what to say and kind of what we're doing and executing so when we're not there that they can speak about it. And our ballots are of course bilingual front and back so anyone can participate that way and some of the signage needs a little bit of updating but thus far the feedback has been great. So and I don't know how many online votes we have yet. I should have looked today, but. Is there a link to the online voting? Can you send that to me? So I can, I don't, I mean, you probably did but I don't know where it's going to be. Yep. Also, one year we had a very, very, very large piece of paper that had the map of Longmont and where the boxes are located. That would be cool. Yep. And are we doing like a finale voting? 24th. That's what I thought. So there's this upcoming Saturday, the 17th which a couple of folks have signed up for. Thank you very much. And then the 24th, which is our kind of finale for voting and then in the meantime the shock art subcommittee will get together and decide which boxes you want. Kevin just got back to me with a good list. So you'll be hearing from me. Map I can do that was on my list. And I actually, I think I can get that done by Saturday. So that'll be good. And then people could encircle if they have one that they would like to see. But here's the other piece is that we have 35 entries as Cindy had said earlier. It seems like almost every single box is getting a vote at least. So how many boxes are y'all interested in having painted? In the past it's been an average of five to seven but you're not limited to how many boxes. So if you wanted to even do an upwards of 10 or nine and a commissioner's choice, it's completely up to you. I like the idea of nine and a commissioner's choice. That would be nice, especially since we have such a good turnout and some really nice ones. So. I agree with that. That will be a commitment of $20,000 for this year plus the cost that comes out of supplies for the priming. And that's completely budgeted for every year. So yep, you wanna make that official by all means. I will. I vote to expand the number of shock heart pieces to nine with a commissioner's choice. And is that good? Is that all I need to say? Everyone in favor, anybody opposed? All right, looks like that's it. It's such a popular program and I love it anyway. I love seeing those boxes and being surprised. So yeah. The other thing I would like to ask is one of the questions that has come up is can I have a map? Can I have a map of where all the shock heart boxes are? And unfortunately, the map that was done before I arrived, I can't find that digital file anywhere. It needs to be redone because of course you'll remember end of 2019, Kevin had to de-assession three, I believe because they were out of warranty or something happened. Anyways, so redoing that map, redoing the images of where they are and then we'll also turn it into a digital asset so it can go on the website. So you actually don't have to print it out or come and get a physical copy. Is the commission agreeable to using the map? Printing budget on that this year? Great idea. We'll start pricing that out and let you know, okay. So Angela, are we sure that there was a blanket email that went out for shock heart? Do we know that kind of? A blanket email saying for voting for online voting or did we not do that this year at all? No, we have not. And it's because there were some hiccups in the digital platform. Okay. Has anybody completed it all the way through? I have and I found the hiccup and it locks you out once you vote with your IP address. Now it's good. So I think that we can, and we can get it out before Saturday for the next in online voting but it is live on Facebook and are updated. So, good. Okay. So email will go out. Okay. Angela? Yes. I previously volunteered to take shock heart pictures or to put into this new map, but I don't know where, I mean, I can wander around and take pictures of everything I see but it would be more efficient if I knew where they were and could just go down the streets. Is there? So I have a limited number of the maps and I'm just gonna scan it. It'll be ugly, but that's the same thing that I did for the table in- Right. Well, the question is though, are there new ones since that came out? Cause I can't get to it through my screen but I think I might have one of those. One of those, what are they? 2019 ones. They are 2019 and yes. So the ones that will be- Are you actually going to be at the Old Town Marketplace on Saturday? Okay. Why don't we talk about that then? Cause I'll bring my map and we can mark it up. Yeah. Okay. Thanks for volunteering, Cindy, to take those pictures.  Oh, we appreciate your time. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. All right. Anything else on Chalk Art? Just that the next two Saturdays. So the 17th and the 24th, put it on your calendar. I will resend the volunteer sign up. If there's not any spots and you're like, I still want to come, please come. Cause that would be, I probably won't stay all the way to the end. So I can, or I might have one of my mini partners in crime, the 11 year old or the eight year old because it's so fun. So we'll see how that goes. And then- Hold on a sec. What exactly is the time that you are going to be there on July 17th and July 24th? Sure. So there's two shifts. One of them is setting up and getting kind of making sure there's ballots out and that starts at four. And that, so it's two hour shifts. Four to six or six to eight. And there's empanadas. And really, I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, Randy, Cindy. Really it's just engaging people. People do not read the signs. They're like, what is this? Even though there's a sign with a box and like we're going to paint this and they just don't read. So, and then just encouraging them to vote and letting them know that their voice counts in the community and let them know what art from public places is. And once we have the map, then they can, if you, one of these boxes is near your school and you want to see it, circle it as one of the ones we want painted, right? One thing that I came across and I've come across this in the past is when you say the word vote, sometimes you get a reaction like because of all the stuff that's happened in the past with our elections. So, you can think of some other creative ways to approach people like, do you like art? Or you want your voice heard and selectings, just the word vote or election is not, sometimes not so good. Table tops to like choose. Sorry, Noah. Go ahead. I would push back against that because we should make voting and civic engagement every day like talking points. That should be something we're all excited to do. And we can use this as a way to rejigger people's thinking about what it means to vote and to express your opinion via cards and boxes. Speaking of, as we're having this chat, I'm checking out the Survey Monkey thing. And it's, this page is a little bland and kind of like the boxes are a little hard to see and also choosing your favorite five out of just kind of an almost endless list is a bit daunting. I might suggest next time, I don't know, I've never tried to use Survey Monkey so I don't know how malleable it is. But if we could get bigger pictures and use a rank choice system, so you could just be like, Oh, these are my favorite in this order. Instead of just like, I like this one and this one and this one, because the way that it's lined up, all the ones at the top of the page are gonna get those first votes. And then by the time you get to the bottom oh, I already used up my five, I can't vote for these now. True, but it's in random order, no matter what. Really? Well, that's great. And if you go and you click on the title or hover, it should say enlarge and it's gonna fill up most of your screen and you'll see all sides. So, and I'm gonna tell you the reasoning behind this. The reasoning is that in the past prior to my arrival and Teresa, you might be able to speak about this, but the ballot stuffing conundrum was, and oh, Randy, you were there too, right? It's highly contentious. It's a very competitive situation and I've had lots of conversations with artists. And so when we designed how to be able to do this online because our reach gets further into the community, right? People are publicizing for us, right? And because there's five, you get five votes, even if an artist says, hey, mine is the rock box, make sure you vote for me, they're also gonna vote for four other ones that aren't their best friend, right? So the popular vote is going to rise to the top inevitably. And then the randomness is that someone online can't say, hey, vote for mine, it's number five. They have to say, mine's dog mon. It looks like this. And then the other piece of it is the SurveyMonkey, the platform we're using has the ability to recognize false email addresses, so has the ability to weigh the votes based on people who live in the area versus all who live somewhere else because they're just your Facebook friend. So while I can't speak to the visible nature of it, that it's this whole long, yeah, you kind of got to go through list, there's a lot of reasons that we did it that way, but we'll see what our turnout is.  It actually was really easy. And I will ask our communications department who designed this for me if we can make it more visually attractive. Does that at least answer the questions and concerns? It doesn't fix it, but. Yeah, no, that is, the page as it is kind of bland, but you're right, it is easy to zoom in on looking at the ones that you like the more. It's almost, it would almost be better if it was a grid and then they shuffled. I'll do what I can do. Okay, cool. Okay, so remember when you get the next opportunity to go in there and sign up for some of those other Saturday shifts so that we can get some successful days going and get shock art behind us and then work in through summer on the streets as well. Yeah, so next on the list looks like our basketball mural partnership. Nope, sorry, did I miss something? Looks like Angela's. For national night out. Okay, I'm just gonna say real quick, I will resend the volunteer link as well just so everybody can look at it. Okay, so after the 24th, the next Saturday is July 31st. And so Carmen Ramirez, who is one of our most beloved staff member who's really deep in our community and knows everyone and her team with community services is hosting a very intentional night out on Saturday the 31st from four to seven PM and has asked that art and public places come and be representative as well as the museum. And so our museum education staff right now is totally tapped. They're in the midst of a very successful summer camp season and they're working a lot. So I said, you know what? Don't you worry, we'll be there. So I met with Carmen and Susan Horowitz, who's not here today. She had an idea of an outreach engagement opportunity and after presenting it to Carmen, she said, you know, I think that that might be better suited for something else. What we would like is just kind of craft that people can either do and take with them or something they can leave behind like creating something in situ and also information about our services to the community. So two ideas then surfaced out of that. One, of course, is bringing education, all the materials related to scholarships and discovery days that happens at the museum and the education department will give us talking points. The other idea is by that point, we will have results of the shock art boxes. And so we will, I'll have to send an email out for the commissioner's choice, but y'all are just gonna have to vote online. And then we take the finalists and we take those models to the park. I'm sorry, this is Atlaniyan Park on East 21st and one block east of Kimbark. What is that? My brain's not working. Henry? Is it Henry? Kimbark. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's Atlaniyan Park. And so our idea is to take the shock art boxes and identify a box that's very close to Atlaniyan Park and say, okay, community, we're art in public places. This is one of the programs we do. We're gonna paint that box, which one do you want? And just allow them to choose. And the idea, of course, is to have participants who are within the community connect them directly to art in public places of what we're already doing. And then it's also a demonstration of how they can participate. And if they get excited about it, then we say, yeah, and you could serve on this board and you can be a part of a selection panel. It's almost a direct synapse, a direct connection there. Carmen assured me that there will be folks there who are bilingual and will be able to assist us in communicating. She said that most of the folks in the neighborhood are multifamily households. There are a lot of children that are very fluent in English and Spanish and they will often bring their caretakers, mom's dads and grandparents. They will have a mobile vaccine clinic on site.  And we're just, there's gonna be a lot going on. And I'm just thrilled that they invited us and thought about us in a bigger way. So I just said yes, because I figure, let's do it, we're all out. So I'll be sending that sign up genius for volunteers. I'm gonna add the 31st. And if anybody has ideas about a craft, I've got a couple in my head. And if you wanna help me and maybe we make a task force to execute this one, I know Susan Horowitz is on board. So Angela, are we doing both some sort of a craft and offering the opportunity with the shock art box for folks who've helped to decide in their community where the art's gonna go? Okay, all right. That's such a, I mean, I think that's ultimately what we as AIPP are attempting to do to go out into a community and give a group of people the ability to help decide what it is from a creative perspective that's gonna be in their neighborhood. So that to me is extremely exciting. I think it might be a lot though to do some sort of a craft unless it's some maybe for a certain age group of people like is it gonna be a craft for kids or, so I think, yeah, that might be a good way to look at it. So this would be an opportunity to have people aid and under be creative by making something and then everyone over eight would get the opportunity to help decide what art is gonna be next created in their neighborhood. So cool, yeah. Idea for art crafty projects was really the painting rocks and then writing the little message and we could get a bunch of river rocks that are nice and flat and actually have a make two, one that they leave behind and one that they take with them. So that was an idea. Also those tiles, who was there? Cindy Francis. The first time we did Art Walk 2019 in September, we did the alcohol ink tiles where you take a Sharpie and you just make random scribbles on a tile and then you drip rubbing alcohol on top and it kind of tie dies and then you dry it and then you spray it. So they get to take like a little coaster home. It's no brainer, right? Like it's just about color and fun and it doesn't require a lot of directions. So those are the ideas as of this point. So I think to move forward just if anybody is interested in joining Susan and I in figuring out the logistic part of it and then I can send volunteer business out. I think that's the best way forward. That's my neighborhood. I love to be a part of that. Can you take a Saturday night off, Danielle? What Saturday is that? The 31st. It's the 31st, dang it. I know, right? I had a feeling because I saw that come up in on my door the other day and I was like and it says I had a huge event at work that day. So let me look at what time that is, but I would love to be able to help even if I can't be there. Okay, it's four to seven, so. Okay, yeah, unfortunately our event ends at five. I don't know if we're gonna make it, but yeah, I'd still love to be able to be a part of that if I can be. And you've got the door hanger, so they've already gone around. Yeah, the door hangers have gone around. Yep, yep, yeah, I saw that the other day. Cool, that's amazing. So you're gonna send out another link for people to sign up to help through that, right, Angela? Yeah, I'll just stick it all in the same link and just add a day, right? So you don't have to worry about managing multiple. All of the volunteer opportunities will all be in that. Okay. So do we need to create a small group of people to help you decide what art project we're gonna do or how do we wanna proceed with that? Well, Susan said that she would help me and Danielle, the way that you can work with me that isn't on that date.  All right, perfect. Thank you. Sounds good, yay, okay. Now onto the basketball mural that we've been talking about for a couple of meetings now. Yep, so let's see. So it is official as of the 29th of June, which was Council's first time meeting in person that they did approve the neighborhood improvement projects and Paulie Christensen said some really nice things about Wayne and who was at our workshop, right? That grant process has been going on for some time. And the goal here is that if we can work with Wayne to come up if you will with canned, I hate that word, but it's true. Almost a canned project that can be an art and public places project that is jointly facilitated through as already successful grant program. We're gonna reach more neighborhoods quicker, faster and gets these things that people in their communities really want to see. So this is gonna be kind of our pilot, Timber, who is the supervisor for the parks department is on board with helping us figure out all of the materials. So commitment from art and public places is going to be, of course, maintenance and perpetuity as well as the sealant. And we already talked about cost on that, so we're set to go. The grant did cover all of the materials and the artist fee, which is fantastic. And of course the community has to participate by some sweat labor in there to offset the cost of the grant. So it really is, it's exactly what we're talking about of getting the community involved. Art and public places responsibility will be facilitating the artist selection process and we'll have to work with the Kitely neighborhood in drafting what that selection sounds like. And of course, working with Timber so that the final design that comes out is conducive to having like the basketball lines, right? Cause it's a basketball court. So if we wanna get a task force together to help me with that one, two is ideal. But now since we're meeting back in person, it might be easier to have some of these quick task force meetings in person. So let me know what you think. And again, Kitely neighborhood. Anybody have interest in that task force right off the bat? I'm super stoked on this one. I'd love to be a part of it too. Yeah, that's right by me also, I could do that. Yeah, I'm really interested in all things murals. So I went through my head into that as well. All right. And I'm also interested to understand the process of like applying for this or like requesting it or however that would work because there's a basketball court at the end of our block and I feel like it could use some TLC and there's a lot of kids around here that would really appreciate it. You got it. So yes, that is exactly it, right? Is identifying some of the infrastructure needs that happen in the city, going to timber and parks and saying, hey, look this basketball needs resurfaced as well. That's exactly what we're doing. So let's get to the bottom of this. So all right, I'll send out a meeting notice and ask for times. Thank you. Very excited about this, by the way. Yeah. It's a good collaboration in the city, right? Cool. All right. So maintenance, now we're at maintenance bronze updates. So yesterday our conservator who has been with the city and has done this work for our collection for some time went and did all of the treatments on our bronze collection. You'll recall that we approved the dollar amount for the 10 that were already on the list and then we added an additional three. Average cost was the same and so the total for the maintenance was $3,060 which was perfectly within our budget. So that's great because the emails went out to your priority list from last month to see about some of the big stuff that we have to start taking care of. So we know that from our $20,000 budget for maintenance what we have left and if it's just gonna depend on what comes back with some of that other work. So if you're at Golden Ponds, the frog got his first wax treatment. So I have not gone out and seen it but this just happened yesterday. Manilda and all of her accoutrements, all of her stuff. Also got treated and then sunset which is the eagle near the swimming pool also got its first treatment. So yeah, if bronze is in your neighborhood, if you're downtown near the library and you're gonna go and so the library on the 19th when it opens, stop by and check it out. So. Some before and after pictures would be really cool. I didn't think about some before though but we probably have some recent pictures so. Yeah and that's a part of the conservators report. That's his job. He contracted to document the work before and after and the big part of that is because depending upon the treatment that you give a bronze it can change the patina. If a bronze lasts goes years without being treated it starts to turn that green. The natural patina, AKA green sculpture. Yeah, so that's a part of his service. So yeah, it'll be fun to see some of those pictures. Maybe if you have them for next meeting maybe we can look at some of those, that'd be great. Absolutely, yeah, the process he just finished yesterday. So yep, it should be soon, definitely next meeting. So and that is what I have. I did while we're talking maintenance and knowing that our, you know, our collection, I always say it is aged like a fine wine. Of course our job as commissioners really is to make sure that we're taking care of things, right? So I'm going to share my screen just to remind everyone just to remind everyone, can you see maintenance sign up? Hopefully, this is the link you see over there. So this is the sign up smart sheet for maintenance and I will send this all to you again. Usually in June is when we reallocate and shuffle the deck. If there's something that you signed up for previously and you want to keep an eye on it, keep watching it just sign up for it again. Ideally, if everyone signs up for five to seven that covers the majority of the collection and then whichever ones don't get selected. I will just send a sheet and say, hey, you know, here's the list and somebody choose these ones. It's completely okay if more than one person signed up for the same work. And the reason of course is because of the nature of what we're looking at. It can be interpreted in different ways and people can see different things, right? So more eyes is a good thing. So on this maintenance sign up, obviously, you just pull the list down and you choose by title. I will also send you the bad digital version of the bike map. It at least has the title and it has the number. So you can see on the map where the work is that you're looking at. And then a commissioner, first name, commissioner, last name and comments. And if you want me to send, if you want it to send you a note so you remember what you signed up for. And then I'm just gonna try and flip my screen and see if this works. Did that work, Holly? Do you see? It did, yeah. Our work assessment, great. So this is the form and if you would like me to print it out for you so you have one that you can just take on site with you, that's fine. It's also mobile friendly. And again, this is a qualitative, if you will form, right? It's your interpretation, but I need to know who you are and your email address is required on these things. The title of the artwork you're looking at and the date, because of course, if somebody takes a baseball bat to Statue of Liberty one day and then you go back and look at it another day, it's good to have the records in chronological order, right? And then it's overall condition. Nothing is ever perfectly new, even when it's new, but this is just one gauge. Then additional issues, we fixed this, so you should be able to many. And then a surface coating, if you take a look at it and you see gum on it, then that has something on, that looks like a surface coating. If you don't know, then chances are it's probably not there. On the bronzes that were just waxed, I'm hoping that you can see a little bit of that, right? It's gonna look waxy. So you just do your best and then the condition of it. So if it was a bronze that just was waxed and now all of a sudden it's speckled, like it looks like oil and water and it's or flaking of some sort on a piece of artwork, that would be the condition of your coating and then hazards. Is there a live wire? Is there a pool of water sitting at the base? Is there one of those mile markers along Macintosh that's like bent over sideways? Is it gonna hurt somebody? And these are the ways that when I go through it and I filter these in an Excel spreadsheet, it gives me a quick glance to say, oh my goodness, like that actually is gonna hurt somebody and I need to do something about it right away. And so you continue to go down damage. What does that look like? Is there an amount damage? Is the whole thing broken or is it just a little bit? Is there a placard? We're still working on that one and its condition and then any comments. And if you can put your longitude and latitude in, that's only gonna help us for the future as we go forward to make digital assets for people to find these works. So it's data collection. And lastly, here is the artwork title location just spreadsheet and the artist's name. So yeah, we'll just kind of get this process started again. Does anyone have questions or concerns based upon our last meeting where we really prioritized the pieces that are not good shape and now going forward with some of these others? Does anybody have any concerns that way? It's pretty easy, I'd say. Okay, fantastic. So that's it on the maintenance front. Okay. How about your administrator's report? I should have written some things down but I think the big stuff of course is enduring impressionism at the museum. If you have not gone to see that show, please hurry. It closes tomorrow and it's a feather in the cap of Longmont. It really, really is. So if you have an opportunity to do that, that would be great. Oh, boogers, I know what I forgot to do. The blue mile piece, forgive me, this is so... Anyways, that's all right. That we had talked about to put into the library. Do you see that app? Not really. So it is now, I will send this picture to you. It is in that stairwell and it's beautiful and the library staff is ecstatic. They wanna open up so badly and it was actually a really interesting installation because the construction workers wouldn't let me drive their lift. And I was like, you guys are touching this painting. So I don't know how we're gonna get this thing on the wall but it worked out. And so between Cherise Montgomery who's of course in charge of the Civic Center and myself and two absolutely lovely gentlemen with construction hats that I made them take off all their jewelry and their belts and like all their stuff and put on rubber gloves. And they were really sweet about it. And they said that it was like the best thing that they've done in a long time. So, and it was really hot that day. So they were just happy to be inside. It looks great. It looks like it was meant to be there. So that's exciting. And then the altar piece, which you'll recall Susan and Noah had gone around pre-pandemic, well actually beginning a pandemic to find a home for is going into the Longmont 150 show, which opens August, something seventh. Anyways, you'll get that invitation as well. But it's great because then the library staff can come over and see it. And then Noah, you and Susan and I will get back together, meet with Nancy, the director of the museum and probably Carmen too, to talk about its permanent home. So I think they're gonna be really excited once they see it. We got moved to the museum. We moved it Tuesday. Yeah. So that's it. Real quick, Angela, the Enduring Impressions exhibition closes on the 18th. So it got a little bit of time. And then the Longmont 150 opens on August the 7th. Oh, it was right about one. Okay. So you have three days to get down there to look at the Impressionist. So I'm just totally amazed that a city the size of Longmont would have been able to bring in pieces of that stature. So Kim, I mean, it's amazing to me. And I enjoyed seeing that show immensely. So thanks for doing that. Once in a lifetime experience, the world-first viewing of a lot of these pieces. Yeah, totally amazing. Yeah. And we're so fortunate we live here and we could see it. So I think that that's the big stuff. And I think that next time we get together and we have more of the commission, we really need to look at our task forces and kind of shake that up a bit. So the second piece is really, I think I'll send a list of who was on different task forces and then you can think about service and how we want to go forward. So, and that is all I have at 722. Okay. So it looks like our last section is commissioners' comments. If anybody has any other comments that they'd like to make, now's your chance. Any comments? I just wanna take a second opportunity to welcome Iris. So we're super glad to have you. Yeah, and I literally can't wait till next month when we can actually all meet in person and have a more normal kind of a meeting. So I'm looking forward to that. Anybody else have something they'd like to say? Nope. Okay, so it looks like it's 723 and we'll be adjourning a little bit early this meeting and we'll see you at the next meeting on the 19th of August.  All right. Thanks everybody. We'll see you next time. Thank you. Bye-bye.


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