Hello and welcome to this session in which we will discuss accountable and non-accountable plan. So what is an accountable plan? Basically, it's an agreement between the employee and the employer to reimburse the employee for expense incurred on behalf of the employer. When you work for a company, sometimes what's going to happen is this. They're going to ask you to use a vehicle, a cell phone, a computer for the company's convenient. Simply put, you have to use certain items, assets, services for the benefit of your employer. Well, what happened is this. Those expenses are handled differently than your wages. In other words, the company might tell you to keep track of those expenses, then submit the expenses to the company and we will reimburse you. Sometime they might say, guess what? We're going to give you, for example, per month, $2,000 and you pay for those expenses and we don't care how you pay, what type of services you have. We gave you $2,000. If there is an agreement specifically identifying how much you can spend and you need to submit your receipts, then this is an accountable plan. In other words, everything is written down. How much you spend and you'll have to submit for your company and your company will reimburse you. When the company reimburs you, obviously that's a deductible to the company.  So the company, as far as paying you for those expenses, it's a deduction. Of course, it's a deduction. However, if the agreement is an accountable plan, accountable means you have to submit everything and they will reimburse you for those expenses, then it's an accountable plan and as a result, you don't have that extra income reported on your W2. So the reimbursement that you receive is not reported on your W2. So you don't have to worry about the money that you spent on your cell phone, home office expense, the computer or any other vehicle that you rented for the business. You don't have to worry about those reimbursement because what you do is you pay for it. You submit your receipts to the company. The company reimburse you. So it's basically it's a wash. It doesn't even appear on your W2. Now obviously the company will have their own deductible expense. Of course, they will because they are paying you for those services. And those expenses are deductible for AGI as far as the company is concerned. Of course, they are part of their operating expenses. Now, this accountable plan don't apply if you're the owner operator of the business. So if you're a sole proprietorship, you can't do that. That's not how it works. It only applies to SNC corporation employees because you have an employee-employee relationship when it's a C Corp or an S Corp. Now we're going to discuss specifically about the rules about accountable plans because it's very specific. We have to know what the IRS requires you to do in order to qualify for a plan to be an accountable plan. Let's go ahead and discuss the details. Before we proceed any further, I have a public announcement about my company, farhatlectures.com. Farhat Accounting Lectures is a supplemental educational tool that's going to help you with your CPA exam preparation as well as your accounting courses. My CPA material is aligned with your CPA review course such as Becker, Roger, Wiley, Gleam, Miles. My accounting courses are aligned with your accounting courses broken down by chapter and topics. My resources consist of lectures, multiple choice questions, true-false questions, as well as exercises. Go ahead, start your free trial today. The accountable plan requires the employee to satisfy these two requirements. So there's going to be two requirements that they must, they have to be a must in order for the plan to be an accountable plan. The first one is to substantiate the expense. Otherwise, you cannot have a deduction. What's substantiate? It means you have to provide evidence. You have to provide receipts, cancel checks, purpose of the meeting, purpose of the expense, the business relationship. So plan must require adequate accounting to the employer for expense reimburse. So you have to submit the necessary information, which is the amount. Of course, you're going to submit the amount, the business purpose. Why did you spend this money? The business relationship of the taxpayer to the person. Why are you spending money? What's the purpose? Obviously, usually to grow the business or to maintain a client. Erequent accounting is submitting a record with receipts to the employer or using what we call the per diem allowance. So we're going to talk about the per diem allowance that's no more than the federal per diem rate. We'll talk about this shortly. So simply put, you have two options. Notice it's either or. You have to substantiate. It means provide evidence, including receipts, cancel checks, purpose of the meeting, the amount, so on and so forth. Or you can use the per diem allowance as said by the federal government. We'll see what that is in a moment. And any accessory reimbursement must be returned to the employer because sometimes what they do is this. They'll give you the money. They'll give you, for example, for this month, $2,000. Well, you can spend it on vehicle expense, cell phone expense, computer expense, whatever you need to do. However, you're going to submit the receipts and you submitted 1,600 worth of receipts and evidence about business expenses. It means you have $400 left. You don't keep that $400. You would return the $400 because it's access reimbursement. Okay, sometimes often what happened first you spend the money, then you'll ask for reimbursement. Well, if they gave you the money upfront, make sure you return it. Make sure you return it, otherwise it becomes taxable. So the taxpayer need to have a good record for the employee or self-employed expenses. And in some cases, as we said, the per diem allowance will be deemed substantiation. So what's that per diem allowance or deemed substantiation? So rather than keeping receipts, there's something called per diem allowance. And that's a fixed amount provided to individual to cover daily expenses while traveling for business purposes. For example, I just I'm throwing this number out. For example, the government, what says, if you're traveling $75 per day is a fair amount for meals. To simply put, you don't have to keep track of your receipts for meals. Just say, I spent $75. And that's fine. There's a rate for that. There's a rate for travel. There's a rate for everything. As long as rather than keeping receipts, you would say, I'm going to be using the per diem allowance. Now, what happened if you spent $100? Well, you can only expense $75. That's the per diem allowance. So that's why you want to keep track of your receipts in case you spent more. You want to be reimbursed for more. So it's intended to cover expenses such as meals, lodging, incidental costs that a person might incur while away from their usual place of business or presidents. Per diem allowance are said by the government. Usually they would use the federal per diem allowance. The reason for this is to simplify expense reporting. So rather than keep in track of all these receipts, canceled checks, purpose of business meetings, so on and so forth, you would use the per diem just for simplicity. And this way they would reimburse you. They will get a deduction and the amount that you pay is not taxable. Let's take a look at an example. Adam submitted canceled checks for his business travels and meetings to the accounting department. The checks shows the place and the amount of the expenditure. Well, guess what? The expense is not reimbursed. I'm sorry. The deduction is not allowed. Why? Because you need to also have the business relationship and the business purpose as well. So Adam will have to justify why did they spend this money? What's the relationship between them and the other individuals? What's the business purpose? So you need those. The point I'm trying to make is substantiation is an important feature when it comes to accountable plan. So you need to have everything. Unless you want to use the per diem allowance. Let's talk now about the non-accountable plan. Think of the non-accountable plan as an allowance. Here's what's going to happen here. We're going to give you the plan does not require adequate accounting record or return of accessory, reimbursement or both. Simply put, we're going to give you $2,000 for this month as an allowance. And you could use this money for business travel, meals, whatever business expense you are required to carry on. So think of an allowance. Now here's what's going to happen. If we gave you 2,000 allowance for monthly car expense, you don't have to return if you did not use it. But guess what? This amount is taxable to you. So you're not accountable for it. That's what's called non-accountable. We're going to give it to you. You can use it. Reimbursement amount received under this plan are included in gross income. So for example, if they gave you $2,000 allowance for your monthly car expense, let's assume you're a travel agent. Well, that's 2,000 times 12. And they're going to add to your W2, 24,000 of taxable income. That's the bad news because now this amount is taxable. Any allowable expense are deductible in the same manner as a reimburse expense. The company could still deduct it. The company will deduct 24,000 under the non-accountable plan. This is bad news for employees. Why? Because now you're going to include the income, but that amount cannot be deducted. So your expenses cannot be deducted. Because as an employee, you have only Schedule A, the miscellaneous itemized deduction, to deduct your business expense. And from 2018 to 2025, that Schedule A deductions are suspended for miscellaneous expenses. Therefore, you're going to end up including the income and not being able to deduct the expenses. So if you can include the income, then deduct, for example, 22,000 of expenses. That's all. That's how much you use that. At least you have 2,000 of taxable income. Or maybe you use the whole thing. And therefore, none of it is taxable because you included an income, then you took it out in deduction. But since the deductions are not allowed, then you cannot deduct it. Therefore, it's taxable, but not deductible, which is not good. Okay? So you have to be careful if you have a non-accountable plan. If you have an accountable plan, but the employee failed to follow the rules, which is return the access, reimbursement, or the allowance, whatever you want to call it, and they don't keep track, then it becomes a non-accountable plan treatment. Then guess what? They will tell this individual, huh? We don't have record of what's going on here. We're going to include this in your income because you're not returning the access reimbursement. You're keeping the money and you're not providing us with the receipts. Therefore, it's taxable to you. What should you do now? Well, go to Farhat lecture, whether you are a CPA candidate, an accounting student, or an enrolled agent, and work additional MCQs that's going to help you understand this concept better. Good luck. Study hard. And of course, stay safe. Accountable and accountable plan and non-accountable plan are an important topic for tax purposes. Good luck.


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You're getting it.  Would you guys be able to see this I get in trouble for this Why I'm scared. I'm not gonna do it. I can't sit on the hub while I make a video glasses Wow, I don't know if I've ever played a full game with these puppies on so we got to give it a go I'm feeling good. I'm feeling confident I feel good about doing something like this because we want an awesome game last game got the dude the rage quit So I want to hop into another one and continue the streak Let's get ourselves a very good left guard and then we can worry about middle linebacker right outside linebacker Stuff like that because overall I really like how the team is it just comes down Whether I play well or not. All right, ladies the gentleman whatever wheelspin we get it needs to get us a left guard I'm gonna start with left guard, and then I'll worry about everything else. Oh I don't think I can get a left guard out of this. Oh, okay This is gonna be interesting so I can get any of the out of position ultimate legends As you know, there's a Jonathan Ogden QB, but that's not gonna help us on the team right now So I can't go with him. There's some crazy stuff though. There's a gym Thorpe corner There's a 95 overall half-back Randall Cunningham So that's one option although. I don't think I need that either a dailiest Thomas does have a 95 overall So there's wide receivers you're already this full back Corey Dylan.  That'll be my backup half-back 93 speed 90 points out 98 agility I don't know why they do this shit, but I'll take it. It's actually pretty damn solid. All right 95 overall Randall Cunningham It's not a left guard, but it's gonna be funny. All right boys The Randall Cunningham is soaked in and with Danny Thomas said I fortunately never saw the field But it is what it is. I'm excited to have him as our wheel spins right now And we are gonna get a team wheel 94 95. I just need you to have a 94 95 Offensive Lyman preferably a left guard. Whatever team I land on here This is gonna be pure luck if we can get it. Ooh brandy sure brandy sure. Ah, ah, I don't know if the Ravens have one Yanda Wait, that's so clutch. So I mean we just put him at left guard. It'll still be a stud I also like Yanda because he has an ultimate legend. I think yeah Yanda has a 97 overall right guard So if I get a pack of punch, I potentially could do that. I probably wouldn't but at least it's on the table All right, so let's throw him in and see what happens here So Yanda at left guard is a 91. He's gonna be sitting at a 92 overall boosted at left guard I'm totally fine with that though. He's a stud and his stats are really good 93 strength 99 pass block. It's a really solid card. All right, we're sitting at a 95 overall You guys know at this point that we got what is basically a god squad here This team is so good and now we have a rando cutting him is our backup half back This is gonna be really funny to use sitting at a clean four and one Let's hop into this next game. We're four and all since our loss, too I love that all that leaves is our brand new and I call it brand new. It's not brand new My updated challenge wheel. Let me see if I can get something new with it. Have I done that one yet? Ah This one's easy. Yeah, I can do this. I can easily do this the only reason I couldn't do this is if I forgot Let's hope we don't forget our top. Oh, that's not my top three. That's his ah stop get some help Everybody has his teams bro. I'm so over it. Whatever. I got that team now, too. I got a 95 We could play his name is oh violator. Oh, that's really aggressive violator You want to be known as the violator? All right I cannot scramble and I think a really good way for you to remember that is by starting out with a couple run plays So I don't get too past heavy and then completely forget. Hi first and ten. We're getting to the right side Delvin, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Who is this that is tracking by? Oh Just started out. How did that happen? Oh, that was glitchy as hell, too. He was all over me I had no business breaking that tackle. That is how you start out against the God's glass Hey, the gay pride sunglasses might be want to know today boys. I don't know why I'm calling him that They called me a madman So I burnt literally 10 seconds. It took me 10 seconds to get down the field. That's it. All right, we're gonna play up in this grill We're gonna send the heat. I got Landon Collins blitzing along with chase young and tj wide off the edges Let's see what he wants Look at that user playmaker. Uh-oh We're in for a long game when I see people doing this this really intense user playmaker stuff I get really concerned. It's really really good The guy who whoop my ass was when I lost 21 seven at the start of this was doing this So no lie. I'm a little worried Your rifles went underneath the Darren wall. That was a weird looking pass first in 10 Motions waller cross. I have to run with waller. I have to run within the whole play. Oh, just kidding. Just kidding I want this post. I want this post. Yep. Yep. Y'all got no more Stand your feet. Let's bring this back. Let's bring this back. Oh, I got lit up by Randy Moss Oh my god, he tried to do the cover three beater, but he was so out of position to do that I don't know why he tried it from there. Excellent excellent recovery speed by Denzel board to get back there and we just Mossed him. I'm gonna try a play action.  I don't expect much Ooh, I almost just scrambled. I was so close to taking off with my homes there.  Can I get super lucky again?  He spreads out his line That's perfect Oh, I got I got grabbed that would have been a touchdown again with delvin I'm just gonna quick snap this one.  There's rattle cutting his first carry He's big. Oh my god.  I have 101 rushing yards first quarter I was gonna say a bunch of stuff about how I should go past now and scramble, but like why? I'm running the ball so well. Well, all right.  He got in there also the tidalier sex tape. Why are you showboating? You got a fumble. I did abuse delvin a little too much there. It's understandable that that would happen Let's see if we can gash him super deep here Oh, I'm not gonna be able to but at least I'm gonna say at least I can scramble now But that didn't really work either this man coverage is so tough to beat even with my diary kill I have noticed sometimes and if you run slants out of like bunch like right here to Deshaun Jackson I kind of feel like this will get open. Let's just see what he comes out of Good god. All right.   Tyree killed a beat and it's still really really tough All right, we're gonna try play action here on fourth and sixth. This is what you'd call big sketchy But hey, there's Tyreek.  I can't be reckless anymore. Let's see who he goes on Oh D. Jax. Oh Oh, I should have probably possession caught that no lie. So it's probably on me stuff. All right. Let's see what we got here Tyreek Let's go. I'm finding a way. I'm finding a way to bust up this man coverage here. Do I try it? Do I try to show Jackson deep? I'm thinking about it, man. Although.  Let's see if he QB spies this time Still no QB spy. There's my homes. Same thing. No fumble big timer out to the 37 I might have to go for this. I could probably run this ball. I'm kind of scared too. I'ma try it.  Let's go Dalvin. Dalvin is so good right now. I'm not feeling all right It looks like we're gonna have to get out of bounds. Yeah, we gotta get out of bounds Yeah, we gotta get out of bounds Hmm. Oh, come on. Come on. Spike it. Spike it. Spike it. Do I have time? Nope. Damn it Oh my gosh, you gotta edit that out, man I said I knew I had to get out of bounds, but in that position I would have thrown in interceptions I was just trying to get down fast enough that I could spike it, but I didn't the only thing in my favor right now Is he has not scored an offensive touchdown. Definitely gonna be a tough ball game though. No doubt about that Oh, he's gonna hand off to album Camara. I'm blitzing off that Off that right side same run. Damn. Whoa Flatten. That's a big hit first in 10 play action finally Get there. Oh So close. All right goes to the run play again. He's zooming down this field.  He just stumbled forward. He's playing too fast He's gonna make a mistake third and one. Let's see what he goes with. He's chewing clock Damn, he hands it off and we get there. That's a fourth and one.  He's gonna try it again I've got you in my sights No, and I was just a second late. I thought it was a pick six. That's why I said, yo I 100 thought I got to that 14 to seven nine play three minute drive I still don't think his offense is good. Have to score here.   Bop. Whoa. That's my big boy right there for 11 yards. Nice work. See what he goes with here Damn, I wish he hadn't gone with tyree kill. Tyree kill is a touchdown, man. Is it cover three?   I'm getting hit so hard. I do not like this. I think he's got to commit to Darren waller here I mean, I've literally thrown that so many times. He has to Stop Jesus stop. Oh my god. He's hitting me so hard. All right. We're going hat back dive here. Catch him sleeping I've thrown so many passes And dalvin continues to march forward. We are not chewing clock.   I didn't see Patrick rickard at all, but he was wide open in the back of the end zone I'm so disappointed in myself. I'm just gonna laser in on the post and go for it fourth and goal It's just make or break right here, baby.  All right, so he's pretty much just gonna run the ball at you the clock Yeah, this is too bad, man It's the sunglasses, bro. I should I shouldn't award the glasses. It's gotta be a bad luck totem somehow, man Oh Even the tides on the fumble six thing here and then we'll have a farewell game Just fumble for a touchdown before team 14 we can go into overtime and we can really see who's the better player He's gonna throw this left side one. Oh, I do not know what this is gonna be I ran commit the whole team. Let's everybody not I could do there darn gg to my opponent, man That's tough the violator. I got violated. I said I'm a gg. I'll be a good sport about it. I'll take my own like a champion Marshal yanda, I'm sad about marshal yanda the random cutting hand whatever, bro You I don't need random cutting hand half back this play right here is where I should have won the game But instead I lost it. I'm too far back here I was out of position if I'm a yard closer to seguan I get that pick six and I end the game But instead he's gonna get a touchdown on the play. It's okay though. We had some games to spare in wheel of So that's one of the only good things that we can take out of this so we can lose two more or win three However, I did complete my challenge. I did not scramble the whole first quarter So there's a chance. I'll just pull like, you know 97 Steve Hutchinson in this pack and then all will be forgiven. Come on. Give me a left guard left guard God's your left guard. That's nope. That's Kirk Cousins actually. No, no No, I don't know chief. It's not looking good. We got Halfback Corey Dylan and 92 Jeremy Shockey.  I'm sorry. I couldn't close you up to dump today, but it's a regular season It's all right. And you know what that's a true god squad We played really really well Which is what I'm looking for and as long as we don't have some of those mistakes and like the fumble type stuff In the playoffs, we'll be able to win those games. Hey ggs salad game of wheel of might. I'll see you guys the next one Thanks for watching as always. Peace


Jepan, oh my God, I haven't heard time with that. Okay, no problem. All right, here we are, guys. We're live on The Metal Voice, you know, returning guest, Paul Diano, always a pleasure to have him, all the way in Croatian, of course, made an author, publisher, Sjepan, Sjepan, Juras, Juras, Sjepan, Juras, Juras, you don't pronounce the J, Juras, Juras, okay. Guys, it's a pleasure.  Not only I'm proud of you for doing the work because it takes work to get back, hard work and these guys in Croatia, like they're heroes. If you ask me, they're just heroes. They push me and that's what I love. We've got a great team around me. This man here has been doing brilliant work.  Keep it quiet. But yeah, they've been fantastic. They've been giving me all the hope and that I need and the team have got around me. It's been amazing, you know. So when somebody shows you that he's light on the ends of the tunnel, you go for it.  All right, let's talk to Sjepan.  Is that a step? Steep, steep. Okay, I'm having problems with pronunciations this morning. Tell us, let's backtrack a little bit to the point where Paul is sort of in England suffering and you've had this idea, you know what, I'm going to help Paul. I'm a fan, I'm a human being, I want to help another human being. Tell us about how that started and the fundraising. You know, yeah, definitely. I was a fan for my life, maybe from like seven years old kid, but yes, I read about Paul X and everything on the internet because today everything is on the internet. And I saw the campaign started by Castro Faglione owner of the Cardinals Pub and I said, wow, this is really cool, I need to contribute somehow. And at that time, my wife and me worked for SPR or something like that for a few clinics in Croatia. And by accident, I knew one of the best doctors in Croatia and I started to think about Castro said from for operation in England, we need this kind of money and the soon was huge. And I saw, yeah, we have the same doctors in Croatia but our prices are much, much lower. And why not offer because startups are different and why not offer to Paul to come here in Croatia and start recovery from Croatia because not just doctors, I live in Zagreb, my wife lives in Zagreb too, together with me. And I thought we will be careful each day because it's not just the doctors, we need to stay with Paul for a whole month, whole year we need to help with everything. So with doctors and us beside and Castro with fundraising and everything, we form some kind of team for the help and also Castro is owner of Cardinals Pub and you know, this is the pub where that's the show you're wearing, Cart and Horses. Cart and Horses, the guys helped out there, yeah? Yeah, and from my side, I'm outdoor and I had a lot of buyers, customers of my books and I knew all of them. I'm showing you, I'm gonna pause you right there, I'm showing your books right now on the screen. So you've done all the Iron Maiden books, you have a connection with Iron Maiden, Cart and Horses, you have a connection with the old school guys that Paul used to hang with, you have a whole Iron Maiden connection, right? From the, yeah, yeah, yeah. So with Castro, my wife, me and a few more person like Michael Keem or Mike Kralid and a few close friends who formed the team and we started from sour and Croatia was the first choice, but back in the past, it was a problem with COVID, how to go to Croatia, how to go because it was too risky to fly, so yeah. I'll walk down to the front of the train. Once we're all there. All right, so pause right there, pause right there. Now Paul, you tell me, you get this call from these guys from Croatia. What's the first thing that comes to your mind? No, I don't believe it. Through Castro, Castro told me about it all and we was working out how to get over here and I don't know my job's done and everything and you know, that's come over and I knew because I can't use toilets in the plane so I can't stand up. They didn't got to fly. So we came by a road, oh God, it's like being back on the road again on tour but not in a good way. And we got here and Mickey Key came over with me as well and Castro and we all met up with Steppen and Violeta and this has all gone on from there.  Now what I do in England is I just bandaged you up and then they'll throw you up to the clinic about once a month to see if they can do it. The guy is here, done lymphatic drainage, which got it all clear within about two weeks. So what's all that about? You know, it's unbelievable that the- But you put in the work too, Paul. I'm watching the pictures. I'm seeing the videos that being posted. If you don't put in the work, nothing's gonna happen, right? No, I'm not just sitting here asking to do nothing. I've been given at least a life to go out and play music again to get on a plane soon and go and see my family. And I'm making the most of that, you know? So it's something, you know, there was no light at the end of the tunnel. Now there is, you know? And so I'm taking everything I can, you know, to get there and do it, you know? And everybody's been just so fantastic over here. I actually don't wanna leave these countries to be honest with you.   Yeah, just before you start. Yes, go ahead. Yeah, just before you start, I want to say on the beginning, and this need to be on the end, all fans are heroes, not just me. I'm just have a luck to be here with Paul, but all fans, all fans all around the world, if any fans donated just even one euro, one dollar, each fan is our hero. So, you know. The beast of it, they've been fantastic, man, don't tell me. But I just wanna say something to you now. You drive to Paul, you help Paul. This is like you're caring for Paul. This is not just Paul's there and just leave him there. You are actively, I don't know if he's ever there every day. That's what I mean. I mean, that's a commitment and that's hard work, you know. And even if you're a fan of somebody's music, that's huge, you know. I just wanna make sure everybody knows that. Yeah, that's what we're gonna finish here. You know, and the end of the day is also, like, if you could take care of some music stuff and Paul and me over here as well, you know. Like, go ahead and do some bookings and that through my management as well. So yeah, it's all good. And it's just one of those Charles meetings that has just come up and worked that brilliantly. All right, so let's talk about, unless it's defined, unless you have something else you wanna say, we could talk about the singles or do you wanna talk about something else? No, it's all about warbles. Yeah, it's okay. All right, so I'm gonna put the picture up of the DVD merch single. Okay, so tell us about how the single came about, the singles. So yeah, I had a friend in Croatia who also had another band and I told him, look Paul is here, come here and meet with Paul and try to do something new because also Paul wanted to be a part of a project of Ben, not just Paul Diano, this is different. Paul Diano will tell you later. This is a band, band with a name, with the members and Paul Diano is just one of a band member and they want to contribute all together as authors, as band members. And we started this project, I think Paul gave the name of the band. Yeah, I'll come out the name, but yeah, but with Khloe and Auntie and the two guitar players, I mean, they're quite well known so we decided to do this and we knocked out the tracks in the weekend and went down and did it, it took about eight months to believe we were going to do it. Wow, it was that long, wow. I didn't do that at all, but it took a good few beats for them to mix, I didn't do that, it took me back to Split and did that, but we're really happy with what it sounds like in my moment, so then we just went and brought some more material and we'll get a full album out at some stage. Oh, all right, so it's not only two singles, it's a full album, right? Okay. There will be, there will be, for sure, and yeah, and after all, Fundraiser, you know, in April, we were out of the money and we didn't know what to do because we was near the end but we were out of the money and I said, you know what, we can ask people again to donate because we need to give them something now, now need to be different, now we need to give them something and people will buy, so I suggested why not to make some single with two songs in bundle with T-shirts and sell them and the reaction was, I don't know, it's really, really good because the price is not small price and we released 660 bundles and in just 10 days, we sold almost 500. Wow, look at that, I just, I want to say something, so you let me hear the first single, Stop the War, I thought it was Battlezone, like it kind of had that vibe. It had that, if Battlezone continued, that's kind of where the direction it would have been and I liked it. And it's brutal too, it's a brutal song, so I kind of like that. Yeah, in 10 days, so we know we'll be out. Very, very cool. So Paul, what do you think about the songs? You talk about these singles there. Yeah, what's the clarity of this, so I'm just saying it. Let's do it. I can't wait to do some writing with the guys, but yeah, we came in really, well, there's more fun things. First of all, I might come back on yours. And I'm like, yeah, this is kind of good, but it's quite apt as well at the minute, what's going on in Ukraine at the minute. So it was there, pretty good. There's one other track we've done as well, which isn't on there, which I'm quite upset about. Because the song Foreverbound is great. But yeah, it's just all gone pretty good.  You know, so yeah, but it's a good distraction and it's great. And okay, then you put on a show in Croatia, Paul Diano Free Gig as a thank you, as a thank you, right, to the fans, which I thought that was very honorable to do. You know, after all what they've done for you, Paul, I thought to admit.  It was so hot out there, and don't forget, I haven't sung for seven years. We only had two song rehearsals before we did all this because the circus actually got in the way. The band called that to get over on days to do more rehearsals and stuff. And it went really good, actually. But the thing is, it was like about 51 Celsius on stage. Oh, jeez. It was like me going back up to the Amazon and playing. Sweating like a rapist I was. And I'm like, oh, Michael, this man, it's not good. So we had to cut it short, four songs, and I was a bit upset about that. But I think we all did dies, to be honest with you. By the way, Michael says, and there's a chat going on, too, on the side, Michael says, tell Paul to do a punk album.  Yeah, holiday in the sun. It was holiday in the sun, I think. Was that it? Yeah, we used to do that quite a bit, actually. Yeah, we like doing that for a few punk songs, and that's been rude, isn't it? Stefan, tell me about the connection. OK, now here's the big news. I mean, the connection, your connection with Maiden, then Paul's in Croatia. Maiden's doing a show in Maiden and is probably, like, tell us about how you put that together, because you were the mastermind behind this. Yeah, you know, all in our Maiden family, our family. And all the people from all around the world know each other. And, you know, this was the first date of the tour. And, you know, routine, routine of all the fans from all around the world, Brazil, Belgium, Australia, Canada, United States, I think, Germany, all fans came in Zagreb a few days before. And I know this is the perfect day to merge all these shows. So one plus one is two. It's, you know, I know the fans will come in Croatia, and I just wanted to make extended weekend of three. No, four shows together. Paul Di Anno, Bucket Metal Battle, Iron Maiden Tribute, and Iron Maiden Show. So I know this will be a good weekend, and many fans all around the world will meet each other. So my connection with Iron Maiden is how to say, I know them, like many, many fans. Well, you've done the books, you've done the books, and you were in charge of production, right? The production side of the show, right? So there was a connection there? Yeah. No. No? I don't know. I made the books, and they know me, and I'm pretty happy because I'm maybe only author in the world. I'm an official author, which we have a signature from, for example, Steve Harris on my book. When some fans give my book to Steve, he will sign. So it is a honor to me. And yeah, I have some connection, not big connections, but I have a connection with management. And I tried to do something with the fund except for all these situations. Many of them ask the way when you start everything with the fundraiser, where is Iron Maiden? But Iron Maiden is always behind. Don't worry. Iron Maiden's big family, Steve and all our friends, and they are always behind. And even when people don't see Iron Maiden, he's behind. OK. Paul. That's all we're going to say on that matter. For now. Paul. You know, they've been fantastic. And I'll tell you, last weekend was absolutely amazing. Because me and Steve talked about football, was have, you know, always about the Amherst and stuff like that. But we actually haven't met for a long time. And it was brilliant because I met up with Steve's sister, Linda, first, who I haven't seen in about 30 years. And then Steve, it was amazing. And then we've grown as well. It's made my whole year, actually, fantastic. When was the last time you saw Steve and Rod Smallwood? Well, I saw Rod, Rocky Rear, about seven years ago. And I missed the Maiden show because I was swamped by bunny press and stuff, so I couldn't actually do anything. There's so much to band.  And Steve and it was pretty awesome, actually. OK, so you mean, Steve, and how long has it been since you actually talked to Steve Harris? Like face to face? Thirty years. Thirty years. Jeez, was it awkward? No. OK, it was like it's like you just haven't seen him for. Yeah, yeah, it was great. And I kind of convinced I was a hugger now. And I wish I was in this position, though, you know. But yeah, it was quite emotional, I'll tell you. But yeah, as I said, you know, if it had been the first meeting and the first time we spoke together in 30 years, it would have been maybe a little bit more weird, you know. But as I said, we talked about football and stuff like that. And Steve found me up a couple of times with Bahamas and that. And yeah, it's good. Well, you're a very personable guy. Steve is a very personable person. So that you could see that there's there's always going to be that connection. I mean, we're two blood and boys from the East End, aren't we? You know what I mean? Yeah, that's right. They're going to do us. We're like, we're quite sort of a happy-go-lucky Jesus. Did you guys do you guys talk about maybe in the future talking, having a coffee together or anything like that? I, I, oh, Steve, didn't have a big time because you know, after one, this is in the summer over in the States on the last main tour in Connecticut, in Hartford and that. And he really looks after them, going back to the VIP stuff and all that. And yeah, it was great. So I sort of said, oh, you didn't want that one, mate. So when I get time, I'll get my legs back and take them out to dinner. I think Steve called you off at the show, but you missed the call. Yeah, I missed the call out the next day. Bloody hell. Yeah.   Of course, when he's better, right?  I'd love to see that. I'd love to see that. I know all the fans would love to see that I'm not the only else, mate, but, you know, it's not down to me and that. And as I said, I think that that times past. But the thing is, you know, what annoys me is that everyone's spreading rumours around, right? And we don't like each other and stuff like that. I ain't got nothing wrong with me at all. And I'll tell you what, it's brilliant on Sunday. Absolutely amazing.  Not after this sort of drag meal or blaze or some other geezer out there who's in the bed. You know, if the offer comes in, if it's going to finish off well for them, I'd love to do it. Yeah, of course. But, you know, I made a machine keep going on. I hope it doesn't stop. Stepan, what was your reaction when you're, you know, you're bringing Paul to see Rod Smallwood? Steve, were you like, wow, I've made history. You made history in a sense, right?  But Rod Smallwood was smiling here because he was happy also as Paul. So after a few minutes, I relaxed more. And yeah, it was a fantastic moment. I witnessed it. So, you know, in my head, maybe three, four months before I had this scenario, but now it's happening again.  Your vision is complete. You know, you know, that is you had what you wanted to do. OK, Maiden's going to be there. Paul's going to be there. I got to connect the two together somehow. Oh, mate, I'll tell you what it happened, obviously. But there was another highlight of that when we went to the arena going to see the band and getting out of his bloody wheelchair taxi. And it's got all steps going up to the arena, these concrete steps like bleachers sort of thing. Oh, somebody spotting me, didn't they? Oh, they literally broke the doors down underneath. And start to run. Yeah, security guy. He's only about 90 or something.  But I can't fly him in. I have photographs done with him all that. So, yeah, they had a good day out, I think. Yeah, you wouldn't see him in the coming video. Maybe Paul can tell me more about this video. I'm having a biography video. Oh, yeah, yeah, well, they're not going to film with that. I mean, there's been a documentary. The documentary, yes, yes.  But, yeah, so that's all going to be included in it as well. But it was great. A couple of kids were crying and they sat down on the floor next to me and, oh, God, so that gets me every time. And I was I literally can't hold the tears back myself. You know, sometimes. And just to tell everybody again. So there's a and I remember this from before, like there was a there's a documentary following Paul, sort of. It was supposed to be sort of, I think you're like because of Covid. Things kind of changed, right? I mean, not only that, but because of my legs and all the treatments. And I wasn't happy. We wasn't going anywhere to stop this, you know. But now all this has come about. This has now has come together more of a documentary, not really even having all the stuff done behind the scenes. Yeah, sometimes I'll find it a little bit too intrusive. But, you know, all I want to do is get my legs back and go back on stage and do what I do.  But anyway, you know, but this is a good bloke. We worked together for a few years.  He's done the Danj one and he's done Motorhead one. Yeah, Lemmy, the movie Lemmy, I remember that, right? And he's done the Danj one. It's fantastic, you know, so I'm like, you know, so it is great. You know, he's got his finger on the pole because he's a good boy. When does he think this is documentary is going to be ready? Or maybe the story isn't complete. Nothing here, at least. Come in, but it's a combination of like being really almost dying. Now, a lot of it about the treatment and talking about this, that, whatever. And hopefully the end of it will be up on stage doing what I've got to do. And that's it. I like that. I like that. I like that. OK. I might have to come out on the army, but just. Are there going to be any more shows, Paul? Are you talking about it? Yes. Can I talk about it? I think yes. Yes. Right, well, we've been offered a tour in Brazil because it's great. Hang on. And not just Brazil. Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, Mexico. Oh, I'll tell you all that. Yeah. So now you know. Oh, fuck's sake. Well, OK. That's about it. That means I get back home to South America, which is great. And I've been back to Brazil for the new seven years and I missed it. So that's going to be awesome. Yeah, we got that up. Towards the end of this year, hopefully, with my guys over in Scasley, they might be doing a little bit over there as well. You know, having time. But after that, everything else has gone right and I'm standing up. I've got to take a break for weeks of life. Yeah. I've got to do that. And after that, we are. Yeah, go back on the road. Get a new wall. I haven't finished. Yeah, I just want to, I just want to tell something. This is my wife, Sejo. Yeah, she's pregnant. She's eight months pregnant. So our baby ears, baby ears will come in a few days. So. Oh, yeah. We make too. But so we, we call Paul like ankle. I see him more as a Godfather, a Godfather. I see him more of that role. Yeah. Godfather to about 20 kids actually, which is fine by me. Cause we've always had big families. That's not, you know, that's great. Yeah. Is there, is there any misinformation you want to clarify, you know, that maybe things were going on the internet that weren't true? Is there anything?  What's he saying?  Yeah. You know, some people trying to say that everything is forced. That I read our force to meet for the other about publicity. No, they are friends. They are friends all these years. And they're in connection. So, as I said, are made and are always behind.  So that's why are we family? Why are we a band? Look, I mean, and to your point, aren't made and talks to Blaze, aren't made and talks to Dennis Stratton. All the guys in the family and this is the text. And Steve Harris is always, you know, very personable. I just want to show everybody this. Here we go. It's like one of my favorite album covers. Paul, were there any talks ever of sort of re-releasing this sort of like the full show that was in Japan or the broadcast? As far as I know, I've seen that was perfect for what it was. I've only got one, one bug about made. I wish we could reproduce the first album with better sound. When you find that, we'll get around to it.  You know what? I would disagree. I love the album.  That's what makes it sort of brilliant, right? And that's why people love it.   But, you know, he didn't know he'd ask for his elbow and all he would, he said, well, that's what I'd never do. But compare the killers and that the sound. Well, here's another one. I bought this the first day it came out. I like it. I like it. I liked it. So these are all the original pressings. These are. This is like the original pressing Paul when it came out in Canada. So it's cool. It's number one in Japan. So I'm quite happy about that. Paul, it was, look, maybe it was just the wrong time, but the songs are good. If you listen to them today, at least I like them. So I'm going to say I like something completely different to what everyone's expecting me to do. Come out and make now or make this album. And that was the first thing from my mind. I thought, well, you know, let's have a go at this. And we did. And me and my brother-in-law PJ and. And market everybody. We all wrote the songs together and it was great. And I got the experience of recording Rockfield Studios as well and making friends with Robert Clark and everybody. And we should bring it in. Yeah. It was also, I would still like to do. Maybe another album with these guys, but we're so far all over the world. Because I mean, at least later, it was in Australia. And I can't see it when I'm over there. But it's been difficult. Look, look, I get it. As an artist, you might not love the sound, but you know, as a fan, I liked it.  I like it. So it's different from what people expected. But I mean, going on along the path, so after that album was finished, I mean, then we got on the battle zone, which you all went through in the first place, you know. Well, look at here. And this is this is the masterpiece of all masterpieces. Tell me. Like, I mean, look, I bought the shirt because it's my favorite sort of cover art. This album. And again, this is one of probably the first pressings in Canada, at least. Yeah. You were never happy with the production. Or sorry, you weren't happy with the songs, but she was at the production or the song. Yeah, yeah. Because they run as immediate to me as as the first album. But then again, you know, it's not down to me. You know what I mean? But yeah, it's still, it's still a great album, but I prefer the song than the first album. Yeah. That's fair enough. More energy. You know what I mean? But then again, it's how we was coming. We was moving that way, you know. That's all good. Look at this. This is the three, the three battle zone albums right here. Yeah. I've never had any money off of it. Well, anyways, that's what they are. Right. And the new song war horse to me reminds me of sort of a continuation in this. That's what I'm getting at. Cool. Yeah. And I kind of like that. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. I just tell the old people if they want all the war horse, maybe Grisha dot com. Yeah. Around 200 DVDs and bundles with the issues left. So how are we up? Okay. So when they buy, when they buy these CDs and DVDs and the bundles, the money goes to Paul, right? To help Paul. Yeah. It goes into the medical fund. I'm for you. Cause I'm, when I first got ill with sexes, my medical bills, my sure is in recovery also. And I've got, I've got really sick in Argentina. And I've whacked myself out money-wise. You know what I mean? That was it. I shouldn't get involved. So there you go. So it's Croat made in Croatia dot com. Right. Is that it? Yes. And that's your books, your published books. Yeah. Paul Diana's singles, correct? Yeah. So I just want everybody to know, and I'll put it in the video description when we're done and I'll put it there. So everybody could click on that. Okay. So just made in Croatia dot com slash workforce. You bet. Okay. I'm going to ask people. There's a lot of people online here typing questions, a question for Paul, question for Stefan. Um, if you have any questions you want to ask Paul that are, you know, good questions. I will ask him. And in the meantime, I like this album too. I'm just going through. You can see I'm a fan because I have everything Paul's ever done. That's one of my favorite albums, mate. That was another one which was, if they go quickly, it's going to be good for me because I mean, that, I went and done all my phone calls was the whole album in one day. And then I got up the next day and did it again. That's it. Album's done. So. The Living Dead, which was, you know, one year singles, and it was re-released. I think this is the original one, but re-released in the States and the US and Canada. Right. With another cover, The Living Dead or, yeah, something like that. And you know what? Going back even some more, look at this guy here. Do you remember this? This was the, the re, sort of you redid the older tracks. Yeah. The classic are made in here. So it was basically the re-recordings of the first two albums and then women in uniform and a few other stuff. And then it was, I guess, Lee Hart sort of put that together back in the day. Yes. Yeah. We won't talk about that anyway. All right. Very fair enough. All right. Hey, Paul, this is from Mean Metal Mike. Hey, Paul, what was the very first made in gig for you, like for you? And what was touring like? Okay. Wait a second. The question is for Mean Mike, what was the very first made in gig like for you? And what was it touring like just quickly? Very first gig, obviously you're shitting yourself, you know, like a, but as I said, we'll be young and see you for a bit, right? You know, like, you know, with dogs, but it's going to have all this and that, but we do remember bands, but it was good. And it, you know, it's what we wanted to do touring.  And, you know, but now he's not good. I love touring. It's my whole life.  I mean, okay, not now, but before. Yeah. We've been together in Russia. We've been together in Australia, New Zealand. She haven't places and plays well, and yeah, it's all good. And it's a great blog. All right. Here we go. Loopy's weighing in your buddy, Loopy from back in the day. Hi, Jimmy, Paul, and Stefan. He's saying hi to you. Loopy is always a Hello, I had an interview with Loopy. Not too long ago. He has a great book too. You know, his early years in Iron Maiden. Yeah. Okay. Guys, I'm going to ask you both this question about the Diano Era, your two favorite songs from Iron Maiden, or it doesn't even have to be Iron Maiden. It could be anything of Paul's sort of solo work. Your two, one favorite song that you both like from the Diano Era, solo albums or Maiden. Well, what I like. Yeah. What you liked. And then Stefan, what likes? Transylvania. Cause you got a break. Cause you got a break. Is that why? No, I'll tell you, strange world, beautiful song. Um, and not just my era. And another piece.  Yeah, I just, yeah, I just want to continue to tell about Loopy. Loopy is a great friend of mine and his book is amazing. I, in any way, I try to spread the word about his book. So people, if you want some recommendation from me, yeah, buy the book. Absolutely. I did, I did a whole interview with him and we talked about his book and it just, it's incredible. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It is the early years of Iron Maiden. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. So what's your favorite song? You didn't tell us. Uh, mine from, from both eras. Yeah.  I started, uh, personally with sour time. So, uh, strange, strange land is for me, but like, like he said, the number of beats and early, uh, aggressive songs are really good. Or some songs, uh, good songs with plays. Uh, I can decide too, too many songs, but, uh, we might be here for half an hour. Is that what you're saying? Just naming songs? Okay. Yeah. There's too many great songs. There's too many great songs. That's the thing. Okay.  No, no, it wasn't. Yeah, I think I even asked that. Actually done, uh, the number of the beast and stuff like that. Well, yeah. Here's Frazier saying, would you do a duet with Bruce? You know, in the future that's, yeah, you'd say you already said, yes, you would participate in something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Is it? Okay. And then somebody saying Francis saying, is it possible for Paul to work again with our made in someday? We already talked about that. Um, we're going to, we're going to say what I'm going to, I'm going to show your books again. Okay. Let me show your books again here. So I think, and just tell me quickly about, so is every book about every album? Is that how it works? Yeah. Uh, it's every book about every album. Uh, and a few more books about members. Uh, for example, uh, book about Steve. Uh, also there's Iron Maiden for kids book. So, yeah, ABC books, uh, written a long, uh, written a long, uh, same books about, uh, uh, same books for kids. Uh, it's very, very cool book. Uh, there's also a book about Iron Maiden fans and their stories. And, uh, Yeah. And, uh, uh, too many other books, uh, not written by me, but, uh, like made an avenue. Very cool book. And, uh, for the books, uh, a book about all Iron Maiden singles. Uh, there's a universe. Uh, and, uh, I will write more of 100 books about the Iron Maiden. So, and Neil Kay as well, right? Uh, the, the Rock DJ, right? You did that book too? This is, this is completely, this is completely a new chapter because, uh, it is not unofficial. Uh, this book will come out in one month, I think. Neil Kay is, uh, one of the key figure in Iron Maiden history. And this is, uh, about, um, uh, someone from, uh, Iron Maiden, uh, and I worked, uh, almost one and a half year on this book, uh, over 100 hours of Skype chat with Neil, and many other, uh, other, uh, people and, uh, some of the last, um, the last, uh, words from, uh, oh, I forget the name, um, uh, journalists who died, uh, yeah, the British, British, um, some of the last words from, uh, he gave me some interview and, uh, he died and, uh, this book will be crucial, uh, you will see in the, in the future in, uh, and Steve Harris wrote forward for this book. You can get more than that. Uh, Paul, okay. What I want to say, uh, this book, uh, will be, uh, something that I want to show to Steve Harris. Look, this is an official book, uh, written by me. So it, it's turned, uh, and now it's turned to you, uh, about the official book about Steve Harris. Uh, I will show this book, uh, to him and say read and, uh, see, uh, on which way I, uh, write. Uh, yes. Paul, uh, just quickly, what do you remember about Neil K. That really stood out. I mean, he kick started made and back in the day. He's, he's got the crack on all the time. That sounds, that was brilliant. Uh, we always ran his house to have a beer and sandwiches and whatever we got there and to play and stuff. And yeah, we go back a long time. I went on the road, metal for mothers. That was awesome. Uh, yeah. Oh, that's a good memory.  So they, uh, talk for it. Um, so is there anything else you guys want to promote, say, or, you know, clarify to everybody out there. First, foremost, thank you to everybody who has helped out and contributed. I don't know how I'm going to pay you back with this one, but, um, I don't know. It's difficult. I was going to cry when he's coming. I'm going about this, but, I can't believe how wonderful people would be. Um, thanks for having me back really. You know, brilliant. Thank you.  It's inspiring to see Stefan and the Croatian guys helping you. It's an inspirational sort of, uh, and that's why I wanted to have you guys on. I think it's a wonderful story. It's an inspirational country. I received, and I published a few of them, a few messages, not few, it's, I published a few, but I received many messages from, uh, some other funds with disease. And, you know, uh, they're struggling so much in the pain and everything. And when they saw the picture of Paul, and still together, uh, they cried and they, uh, they forgot about their diseases. Uh, uh, they smile, uh, on the face. One of the pun, uh, wrote a message. His father died on the day, uh, of Iron Maiden Show in Greece. And when he saw the picture, uh, they had a smile on his face. Uh, so it's, uh, these stories are amazing stories. We, we inspire people. We, uh, when, when they see Paul in his age, uh, how to try the exercise, uh, the weights, uh, you know, uh, they, uh, they're inspired to do. Uh, I saw, when I saw Paul's first step, it was like watching, you know, like a little kid may do his first step. It's inspirational, right? It's sort of like, wow, he did it. He did it. You know, he did it. And I mean that in a nice way, right? Yeah. Yeah. But as I said, my physios are great. They're unbelievable. Me and Mattel, my physio, we've got a really good bond together, but then just the other way, and there's Christian down there. And Mattel, and we're all sort of, he will go with him on the tour. Yeah. I would take him with me on the, uh, on the Brazil and South American tour as well. So I've always got someone there with me, you know, which is awesome. And, and last year, Paul, you received your metal Hall of Fame Award. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Which congratulations to that. You know, that was a, again, that was another inspiration. I hope these little things keep you going, right?  I think that, that in a way was a little bit of a turning point, really. Because I thought, well, I'm not sure what's going to happen now.  Or when you get something like that, and then we think, oh, hey, that's great. Yeah. There's still something to do that. There's still something left in me, which I want to do. I ain't ready for retiring yet. Your voice, I got to say your voice. Like I heard, you know, I saw the videos of the, the sound check, I guess. You're sounding great. You know, sometimes a little rest. It's a bit cleaner now, though, because I've had seven years off, obviously. When you did about seven or eight shows a week. That's right. Week. Anyway, but after you've done that, you know, when you're singing every day for month, month on end, which is going to get a little bit warmer. It came out really clean. I'm quite happy. And this sound check was just, uh, one day before the show. And, uh, this sound check was his first singing after seven years.  You know, you could sort of like rebuild what, you know, like Paul said, if you sing every night, it's going to burn out. You're going to burn anything out, right? I'll think of idea first in there.  Well, that's pretty much all I got unless you guys want to mention anything else. Thank you. Yeah, I just, yeah, I just wanted to say one thing. We will not stop with all many fans struggling. Uh, and, uh, I want, uh, but there's not just about his famous, his poor, uh, we will continue to help the people, the fans, because our main community is strong and big. Yes. Everyone who needs the help, just, uh, contact me and we'll try to find some money for, uh, treatments, not just about poor, because he's popular about everything. The great idea. He's a really good one. Yeah. Yes. What do we look in terms of like a, sort of like a timeline, you know, in terms of how long it's going to start, you know, walking in six months, five months. Is there a timeline? I'm going to, I've only got one day's video next week. And then in about another week's time, going to, um, a couple of times a week to get the circulation in my right.  Um, as I said, they're going to take.  On the main arterial vein. If that burst on either dead or stroke or heart attack, one or two. So, um, something to be done in maybe beginning of dual, dual. Yeah. That you're going to do, they're going to put cage in there and get rid of that bugger and then take the spacer out. Um, got a bone which has been custom made. Yeah. Because in here, up here, all down the tip. Yeah. Right away down. Ah. You can see. I can't do it. The right bone connected to the left bone. Yeah. I got it. Yeah. Everything I'm getting to. Yeah. But that, the reason that's at the V like that is because when they've left this spacer in, it goes toxic. And it's ruined all the ends of the bones. Yeah. You know, so we've got to put that in as well. So serious major surgery. This is why I'm really coming into three surgeries in one, one day. One day, but two surgeries in one day. That one's going to have to come later. But because of that, my body would be able to accept all that. You know what I mean? It's quite a bit to do, but it hits the clipperberry chamber to get the blood vessels going a bit better than that. So hopefully if all goes right, by sort of around about November, December, I'll be completely, completely having it, not playing football for the atmosphere, but I'll be having it. And at least I might not be on a bike. There you go. There you go. And get on stage. You know, it's proud to get on stage with your own two feet, right? It's a proud moment, right?  And you know what? I'm just going to leave everybody with this. Yeah. I'm not going to say nothing. Big surprise. That's it. That's it. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. It's coming soon. It's coming. All right, guys. We'll touch. It's all about my sex change operation. All right, guys. We'll do this again. We'll keep tabs on you. See what's going on there.  And I'm proud of the metal community for supporting you. It's, it's, it's nice to see positive, you know, in the world sometimes.  People like the Iron Maiden fans and their, and friends of mine.  The fat pooch in this game. We're living. Yeah. All right, man. Guys, have yourself a wonderful day. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.


In terms of projection early on when we were meeting over there in the gathering room, I think it was Laverne brought up that idea right off the bat of projection. Now, bringing up, talking about her husband, talking about her brother, really brought it up and it was really early on, I guess it was right at the beginning of the retreat. And I think it's meaningful to talk about projection in more psychological, common psychological terms, and in fact Jesus did that a lot with Helen. But I think, in my experience, when I move deeper and deeper into it, every time Upset would arise in myself, for example, I would just hear this whispering voice, this whispering idea goes through my mind. It was always, it's your lesson, it's your lesson, it's always the same. And that it's your lesson kind of dynamic over and over and over for, actually for years, started to be a washing away of this idea of projection.  I think Edward was bringing up that it's all good, wasn't it like you say, certs or something? Was that? T-shirts. The T-shirts. It's all good when it started to come out. I don't even remember when that was, but they started to spring out. And what I started to have was an experience which was basically that, how would you call it, the impossibility of projection. You know, spirit extends, the ego projects. And the deeper you go into looking at that, of course it's helpful to look at the dynamics for a while, but then the first aspect of forgiveness for me was exposing the error. And then when I started to get pretty good at exposing the error, I still didn't have consistent peace. And Jesus said that's right because that's just phase one. And I said, well what's phase two? It seems like phase one, you emphasize phase one so much in the course, exposing, exposing, hide nothing. We must keep nothing hidden from each other, he kept saying. We must keep nothing hidden. So I did that and then I said, what is phase two? He said phase two is overlooking the error. You literally do not see error. It's going into a state of mind which is so unified that you have overlooked the error. You don't see the error or see a sin and then work with it, you get good at overlooking. And really that's the Holy Spirit's job. He even says that in the Course that the Holy Spirit overlooks the error and looks to the light of the Atonement. The Holy Spirit is fixated on the light of the Atonement. And what is that? The Atonement is the awareness that the separation never happened. So it doesn't dress up error and it doesn't even deal with error. It literally is an awareness that the separation never happened. So when I open and open and open into that experience, then this idea of projection, it just dissolved away. So whereas I can see the metaphors, like we talked about with Laverne, it's common to talk about projecting onto a partner or projecting onto a child or onto the government or the military or to judges, lawyers, doctors. It was more like an interpersonal dynamic. At one point it just dawned on me that the whole cosmos was a projection. It wasn't like tiny little projections going on between the images. It was like the whole cosmos was an attempt to get rid of something that was uncomfortable, but actually it was a way of keeping it. By trying to get rid of it in an inappropriate means by scapegoating, by blaming, it's actually how you keep it. You don't get rid of it at all. And then I thought, well, then projection is just like a dynamic that has really no value. And Jesus was like, yeah, love extends, the ego projects, and the projection has no value. So when I started to get into that experience, that was where it started to rise above this idea of opinions. So then it wasn't so much of what people thought of David, whether it was positive or negative. That started to become more and more irrelevant. It was an experience that was coming in stronger and stronger. And yes, that's how the dynamics go. Certainly with messengers, we have really hung in there and our goal is set and our goal is very sure. And for those that have come into messengers, it wasn't like in order to become, or in order to even use the symbol of messengers of peace, you have to be completely peaceful. If you have any disharmony, that's it. You can call yourself a messenger of peace slash hate. But that would be more realistic. I just want to say that before I came, I was always trying to talk everybody out of it.  I said, there's no way. I said, I have so much control. And I said, I don't feel like I'm a messenger at all. And he said, if you were healed, there'd be no purpose for us to come together. And he said that we're coming together for mind training and to have a Christ control and to redirect it and learn how to now use it for Christ. And I thought that that was so beautiful. That was the whole thing because of all this unworthiness. And saying, oh, I can't join that. How could I be here? So, yeah, it was very beautiful. It's part of things. I think part of what you're asking, David, too, is that things are going to come up and it's like, what we want to really do is really get anchored into trust in the Holy Spirit who's going to carry us and lift us all beyond that, have a unified goal, and then make an atmosphere or an attitude or a space where the darkness could arise. You know, not to try, our desire wasn't like to try to get rid of it, but because that's really not our function. You know, it's the Holy Spirit's function to shine away the darkness. It was just to make an atmosphere, an environment where it could be allowed to rise up and be given over to the light. Because I think there's such a fear of letting that darkness come up. I mean, people feel like insane. They feel bonkers when that darkness starts to come up. And we're just saying like, okay, let's do that. And that actually is how it works for us. I think we were all, the messengers were all together down in Nusa, and we were down there, five of us were down there in Kangaroo Valley, but I think the last time that we came together more up in the North America was up in Canada. I think it was maybe like how many days, seven, eight, nine days? In Canada, like ten days. And there was some stuff coming up for people there. It was perfect. We were out in rural Canada, and it was like, good, let it arise, bring it on. And it does arise in an interpersonal form. It does come up as if it's somebody's doing something that I don't like kind of thing. And of course it's going to arise like that. You're going to let it arise just as it seems to be. You're going to try to put some kind of a label on it and say, no, no, God is, and stuff it down. And so we had some pretty long discussions. There were some pretty intense emotions that came up. It was like just another purge. That was, I guess it was last year. It was like September, August, September right around in there. It was getting just starting into the fall of 2000. It was like we had our own devotional. It was funny because it was scheduled and we came there. It was really beautiful because just coming together and just doing the same thing that we're doing and just really allowing everything to just come up. And just being completely authentic. It's the most beautiful gift. There's no small upset. So us being together, it's really important for us to just allow whatever is coming up and I feel like the gift for me being here is that it's just all about, it's all for me. It's all for me to keep my mind clean and use these relationships just for that. Just for me to be in the one relationship. So it's like we can feel it too. It's almost like, oh, is there something, you know, and then we just kind of come together and it's not personal. It's like saying I'm having whatever come up and just allow it to come up in a safe, unconditional space. Yeah, it's very much like the philosophy of, before you have anything to share with anyone or a word to speak to anyone, it's like, the spirit's like saying get your own house in order.  I always say one for the Father, one for the Son, one for the Holy Spirit. You got the trinity. Like when you point the finger, the trinity is looking right back at you going, oh yeah, oh yeah.  And when Jesus talks about enemies in the song of prayer, you know, he's talking about enemies in the context of prayer. He says if you have, you perceive enemies, you have great need for prayer indeed. So they're asking him, you know, kind of questions coming out of him. How do you pray for your enemies? And Jesus' answer is if you have enemies, you have great need of prayer. Because prayer is like a purification. What Jesus is really saying is if you have an enemy, pluck the offensive thought from your holy mind. Do not let your holy mind be a garden for weeds or attack thoughts. Pluck the offense. Instead of pointing the finger at the offender, the perceived offender, pluck the offense from your own mind. So basically that's been my philosophy. In other words, I took that on, I took that to heart. And then I started to attract very sincere, loving, devoted witnesses who really pretty much just were like, yeah, that's exactly what the Course is teaching. That's what forgiveness is about. It's about plucking all the offenses up there, whatever it is. And then once again, like Lisa was just saying, we came together there in Canada. It was just another time, it was kind of a rare time. We hadn't even been together that much. We were all over the world. But we came together to, again, there's anything we have to clean house with. If there's anything we need to get our own house in order with, let's do it. And then there's a gift that comes from that. From the cleaning, from the clearing. From clearing the altar of anything that's not loving. Just clearing, cleaning, clearing, clearing. Then it's almost like the Spiritist is like, hmm, thank you. Now we can share and extend. We have something to give. And Jesus says that miracles cannot be extended in the spirit of doubt or fear. And so that's why the cleaning the house and giving the house in order is so important.  Jesus is very ready. But it's just like when the mind still has doubts and fears, it's not ready to let that light shine through it. It's like if you had a mirror, you're ready to reflect the light to everyone, to the world. But you had spots. There's a dirty mirror. It's like, get the windex out and get the cloth out and clean and clean and clean so that light can just reflect and shine. The light is always shining. It's a matter of do I have the spots, the spots of darkness where the light can't reflect because there's just spots there. So it's very much what our practice is.