Hey, it's Monday night, and we're back for another episode of EOBS. We have a super duper special guest tonight Carlos, all this Rocky is going to be here. This guy's done everything. I'm excited You've seen really excited You seem completely underwhelmed. I know Carlos more from television anything because of Reno 911 I'm super psyched about just having a cool guy like that in the audience He's got a lot to share of his knowledge. I can't wait to talk to him and we'll learn more about it He's his head. Yes. Plus we have tons of your questions that you've been sending in and of course We're in somebody else's studio. So stay tuned. 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Michael Collins demos when quality matters and by voice actor websites Dot-com where your voice actor website shouldn't be a pain in the butt and now Live from their super-secret multimedia studio in Sherman Oates, California Here are George Whidham and Dan Leonard Hey, I'm Dan Leonard. I'm still reading the checklist. Oh wait I'm George Whidham and this is voiceover body shop or VO Yes in perfect Yeah Timing is not their strong suit. This is not a music show. Oh, okay most of the time Well, anyway, well, thank you for joining us here on this Monday night for voiceover body shop our guest tonight is Carlos Alice Rocky this guy's been on Rocko and Camp Lazlo. He was mr. Cracker I'm the fairly odd parents. He was a little chill. Wow. Wow. You may have seen on yes We'll have him do all those voices just because we'll be just totally Lessened about it. Yeah plus we've got some tech stuff and Lots of great questions about some stuff That's what we love. 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S voice over extra All the information you need for a successful voice over career And here is the news a simple business plan now You probably remember our feature here a few weeks ago when voiceover pro and coach Jonathan Tilly gave us five major marketing mistakes The things he says we should stop doing right now Well, some of his points were not without controversy But the article on voice over extra has been a top draw for downloads and likes certainly apparently struck a nerve or two or hundreds tonight's let's go two for two with another potentially controversial Concept from Jonathan how to simplify the notion of creating a voice over business plan Jonathan says it's ridiculously simple ridiculously I wish and let's caution up front that his idea is not to be confused with setting goals an Action plan such as creating a demo or setting up or tweaking your home studio in a new article on voice over extra Jonathan first gives us what he says are three Loose definitions of business plans number one. It's a document that puts together a strategy for your business Simple enough, but then here's number two which Jonathan calls the Entrepreneurial business plan this tells us how to build a business or company that you can sell later and now for number Three the freelancers business plan this one Jonathan says is merely the exchange of your time to create what you do for money You're not going to sell your company. In fact, if they're if you're not there There is no money. Of course that describes you as a freelance voice actor So Jonathan says all you really need to do is to find dream clients who want to exchange their money For your time a simple way to think of a business plan, right? What do you think? Well, you know, you can see more of Jonathan's logic in that article now at voiceover extra dot-com Along with thousands of other articles and resources and hey, it's all free your daily resource for voice over success Yes, I'm watching something on Facebook all week with Jonathan tillie People had some sort of a homework assignment and they've been going nuts and posting crazy on Facebook Well, we're gonna do this we could do this a lot of stuff with the marketing He has a big marketing class. He is he's a diabolical genius when it comes to that kind of stuff Anybody that tells you how to do marketing and then has you going out on the social webs to Promote the fact that you're using their service. I mean, it's Freakin brilliant and he's in Germany and he's in Germany. Do you have no idea he's an example in Germany working from anywhere? Yes. Anyway, what's the latest in tech update? Well, I mean, there's a couple cool things of it's been on the radar Like we we shot a little video that personas a r8 mixer when we're at NAMM. Yeah, well in reality It's pretty good. It looked pretty good when we saw it. I put one in service at Rick Wasserman's studio and Bottom line is he hasn't said a word No news is good news when I install anything in a studio I do not want to hear anything from the client after that I just want them to be back to work was it had it had on-off buttons and it was just real simple to operate Yeah, it just has all the right bells and whistles for for what a typical voice actor who's doing live-directed reads You know source connect and Skype and all that kind of stuff It has all the right stuff plus he does coaching So he'll be outside the booth and he has the student inside and it has the right routing for that It also has a cool feature of an internal recording device You know you put an SD card in there and if you're just doing a really long read, you know You're doing that hour-long dreaded phone patch If you'd not want to walk out hit stop and have your file go Or have like little clicks and pops all the way the built-in recorder could be a huge lifesaver So he was really glad because that was something that he's been dealing with clicks and pops in the audio We've tried all sorts of stuff in his studio and this seems to be working beautifully And he's on a new iMac not the new new new iMac, but maybe one generation back and it's it's working. They're still good Yeah, no, absolutely. We're I'm using a hey. We're both using Mac minis from 2011 This is true and still work. Mine's been working beautifully. I'm very happy like a Volvo 240d It's the Volvo 240d of max absolutely the SE which you happen to mention you're gonna be checking out some mics from SE microphones designed by Rupert Neff Yeah, he's he's involved in somewhere along the way, but one of them is called the SE X1 yeah, hey the SE X1 That's an interesting name for that. Yeah. Well, I say sexy He's taken the name from the Elon Musk school of naming products. Okay.  Yes Come on people Realized I love Elon Musk. He's awesome. Anyway, the SE X1 a is about a hundred bucks and the buzz I'm seeing it is that it's a really good Starter mic and maybe not even a starter mic it could be a mic you can last that can last you for a while It's for that price point. It's a it's a killer deal and it's supposed to be clean quiet It has a high-pass filter some of the basic stuff you need in a good studio. Well, I'll be the judge of that We're gonna find out for real because there's I know that I know they're sending me one And I'm gonna check it out and do a review of it and see if it's you know for a hundred bucks You know what I always say if any mic over two hundred dollars is gonna do fine for you in your home Hundred bucks. Let's see if they can break the barrier on that. See are they sending anything else other than yeah They're sending me a couple other higher-end getting a USB one they have a USB version to know they're not sending Strictly studio like the studio mics. Yeah, and and also their new mudflat. All right, which SE of course Perfected they call it the reflexion. Reflex their filter trademark. Yeah, but most of them just call them a mudflat Yeah, a mudflat and the last thing is like 416s This isn't really news per se But the thing is if you have a sanitizer 416 and you want to have a backup The best backup is probably another 416 But I know a grand right if you're if you're really good, maybe a hundred bucks a 415 T which is a man 25 plus year old variation on the 416 goes back a ways these things are readily available on eBay For less than 500 sometimes as low as 400 bucks. I just put one up in a studio last week It's it sounds fantastic. It uses a little power adapter because it uses tea power This is something it predates fan and power and production mixers had these things back, you know back in the 70s Like the nagras and stuff right and reel-to-reels. Yes grease pencils. So it's old tech But with the right a little adapter, it's it works with fan and power and it sounds Fantastic, it's a great sounding mic And so it could be a great alternative or maybe if you really want to buy that 416 and you just can't Scrape together the chuckles yet 400 bucks for a used one buy it from a reputable dealer if you can't yeah Yes, you can buy on eBay, but if you do eBay check the reviews check to see if the seller is verified or if the seller You know has a actual dealership that sells gear right not a pawn shop. I don't recommend buying used mics from pawn shops Cheap ones some something you can take a risk on fine But anything without a return carry okey machine or something not a good idea a good mic Another reason to look for these used 416s is there was a rash of knockoff 416. Yeah, what's gonna say? That was a couple years ago. Yeah, and those are Guaranteed out there in circulation people are I'm sure flipping those on eBay still because they got stuck with them They have to get rid of them now. They're selling them. Right. So watch out for those These are not gonna be knocked off because they're ain't you know their vintage, right? And they're most of them are in a chrome finish, right? Which looks pretty cool actually Yeah, and the thing is is most people don't use them for voiceover their video mics Yeah, you might get one that looks a little bit beat up like the one I saw some of the little grills or a little crooked slight little bent in it Yeah, it had CBS etched into it with an engraver, which you know, that's fun, right? Well, I'm a road with Charles Corral knows but the mic still stands the test of time. So excellent Yes, well Carlos Ellis Rock. He's gonna be joining us in a few minutes Yeah, we're gonna have a fun time talking to him But we've got three questions from our vast worldwide audience that were sent in this week And we're gonna cover those and answer your questions. And by the way, who's studio we in this week? I forget. Who is this guy? Lance DeBrock. Lance DeBrock. Lance DeBrock. Yeah, he's in New Jersey I think but you know it looks like we're in a studio your studio can be on here to just send it to us at the guys at VOBS dot TV We got a pile of so it might be you know till summer do we get yours on unless it's like really cool The reason I have this these pictures is because I asked him to send me the pictures because when he sent me the audio sample His noise floor was so low. I was like, where are you man? Are you out in the sticks? He's like actually I'm in Tom's River, New Jersey. He built a bunker apparently Yeah, he's like he's near the beach. I was like, well, you done good man Looks like a radio studio with the window back there and it's pretty cool. It is man Nice work let the go visit him when we're out there and Tom's River, New Jersey ever at the Jersey Shore All right Well, we'll be right back with your stuff your questions and more here on voiceover body shop right after this In a world of audio two men knew what they were doing or at least they have you convinced they put the BS and VOBS TV How about having some VO too voiceover body shop have some voiceover with your dinner tonight on voiceover body shop nine eastern six specific Every Monday Voiceover body shop. 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Hey, let's make 2018 your year As a voice talent you have to have a website But what a hassle getting someone to do it for you and when they finally do they break or don't look right on mobile devices They're not built for marketing and SEO. They're expensive You have limited or no control and it takes forever to get one built and go live So what's the best way to get you online in no time? Go to voice actor websites comm like our name implies voice actor websites comm just does websites for voice actors We believe in creating fast mobile friendly responsive highly functional designs that are easy to read and easy to use You have full control no need to hire someone every time you want to make a change and our upfront pricing means you know Exactly what your costs are ahead of time.  And we're back on voice over body shop Carlos all is rocky gonna be with us in a few minutes, but we have questions from our audience Mm-hmm on their home studio stuff. That's why we did this show in the first place Yes, the whole idea. Yeah, seven years ago seven years ago in the week March 22nd 2011 we started this show if you can believe it Anyway, but Shelly Baldiga asks she's I've been using a Mac mini in my studio since 2011 Just like us recently I'm seeing the beach ball more and more while editing so much so that I'm starting to feel an impact on my production time I'm looking at the entry-level iMac mid 2017 model figuring. This would be have to be faster Of course, but the specs are not very different from my current setup What I really see an improvement in performance just because it's newer Do I need to go with a pricier model or is the latest basic iMac a good buy? That's a really good question actually all right when because next question when you look at the specs You're like what the heck am I paying like why it's been six years? Why do the clock speeds and nothing really seems to have changed a whole lot right what has Mac done? It's because they every iteration of the the Intel chip They add you know, they add more special sauce under the hood and had more cores that well They had more even they don't even have more cores There's just all these generations of the chip and they have all these funny names like Ivy Lake and KB Lake and all these code names But it's all done kind of behind the scenes So you don't really know that they're improving but they are improving so an i7 or an i5 chip now is going to be Quite a ways in advanced faster and everything else from the same exact chip model from six years ago Yeah, so it's going to be faster for sure But another thing that makes your Mac much much faster whether it's six years old or brand new is whether it has an SSD Drive and that I highly recommend it very good chance that your 2011 does not have an SSD in it I don't believe in 2011 you could get one with an SSD That's a solid state drive and solid state drives make your computer way faster. You'll see the beach ball far far less often That beach ball comes up when it's seeking and reading the hard drive Trying to find stuff it's looking for or trying to find a place on the hard drive to write data Those old spinning drives and the ones that come in the Mac mini particularly are really slow Yeah, so I'm not saying it I'm not quite saying it's worth Investing and upgrading your 2011. It's it's up there in age now But that would be something that would be a very noticeable improvement in performance So point being if you do buy a new iMac spend the money get the upgrade for the SSD Yes, not something you can do later in an iMac. No these suckers everything soldered down in these things now Upgrading them is very difficult. You can't even put more RAM in them or anything Yeah, so get the best iMac if you get an iMac at the best one you can afford You know don't the iMac Pro is a whole nother Stratosphere in terms of cost and performance. You don't need an iMac Pro, but get at least an iMac i5 with 16 gigs of RAM and a 512 gigabyte 512 gigabyte SSD that'd be a good starting specs Something that will keep you happy for at least five or six years. All right, so that answers that question In too much detail way too much detail, but you know max or detail All right got a question here from the one only rosy amador all the way in Boston underneath a pile of snow Another 18 inches on top of them She says well She was too sick to stay up late last Monday night and she was literally falling asleep as she was watching the Facebook broadcast So she didn't hear you talk about Visdn service that source connect is now offered.  So now's my chance to make up for go for it She's like do you think it's worth the money and what a cost for someone is using ISDN only twice a month Maybe three or four times that a month. There's a worth going to visdn at all You know right now. She's using IPD TL for ISDN bridging It's a good question I if you're if IPTL is working for you and you're only using it a few times a month and it's proving to be reliable for you It works every time no drama You're you're fine stick stick with it if you're working with studios who are really really picky about using a bridge There's gonna be clients who are just like no bridge has to be ISDN Then that's when you go to something like the ISDN from source elements the visiting system You're using your actual ISDN codec and your internet connection sometimes two internet connections for reliability and You have actual ISDN numbers that a studio can dial. So to them. It's actual ISDN Cool may not be worth it for you yet until you really step up your usage of ISDN All right. Well, they're hoping to I hope so too. I'm talking to her this morning pulling for you. Yeah, uh Jack de Gaulia the one and only Jack de Gaulia who's writing down every note that we say in the show for the show notes I says tech question What is a multi maximizer and do we really need it especially when we have an effect stack? Well looking at this thing online. It's it's a plug-in. It's a plug-in, right? That used to be a piece of gear you plug into your studio and now it's a software plug-in, right? She says I saw such a thing praised on Facebook as a vital tool for audiobook process Well, as we always say Don't crowdsource your home studio. Yeah, especially on Facebook. Yeah Everybody has a tool that works for them. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use it But if you already have a tool that's working and a workflow that works for you and ACX is buying your work You don't need any new tools to play with like the maximizer a maximizer is a fancy compressor limiter Plug-in that does a lot of stuff automatically, but I'll tell you I can't tell you how many clients of mine Have just gotten away with using that thing level later.  Yeah But if you want like something customized is dialed into your voice That sounds as good as it can possibly sound that's where a custom stack is gonna come into play and that's when you might want to hire us Because that's what we do right and where they find you they can find me at home voiceover studio comm Where I can help you out, especially if you're just starting out I can teach you the proper basics to recording that's right and At home and how to set up a home studio and if you have an existing home studio You can drop by my website the bottom of the front page There is a specimen collection cup click on that it's a dropbox. Send me a sample of your audio of your audio of your audio That's why there's no mailing address on there. Yes And if they want to get what's gonna show I know if they want to get a hold of George Wood I am at George the tech comm and I can do things like make those stacks and Audio book mastering presets and teach you how to do all that good stuff design studios deal with acoustics problems Whatever either in your face in LA or Denver or Remotely, so let me know I'd be happy to help. All right. Well The reason Jack wanted it. It was like retail 349. It was on sale for $29.   They're hard to resist. Yes So again, if you got a tech question for us, feel free to write to us at the guys at vobs.tv and your question could be answered Right here on our show. That's right every Monday night. So anyway, Carlos Ellis Rocky is coming up right after these great messages Stay tuned Are you confused about how to set up and maintain a professional quality voiceover studio? No wonder the information out there is mostly Mythology, this is the best microphone to use. You'll have to have a preamp. You need a soundproof booth This software is the best your audio must be broadcast quality Consult with someone who knows the truth someone who's been there in the trenches doing voiceover for over 30 years Someone with unparalleled experience with voiceover studios who's worked with hundreds of voice actors and designed hundreds of personal studios He knows how to teach and cares about your success in one of the harshest environments known to voiceover your home Dan Leonard the home studio master Separate myth from fact and get a handle on your personal voiceover studio Contact the home studio master at home voiceover studio comm drop off a specimen of your dry audio for a free analysis Alrighty well, it's time to introduce our guest Carlos Ellis Rocky Was not just the face of Deputy James Garcia on Comedy Central's hit or show Reno 911 or Reno 911 the movie He's also been a stand-up comic for over 25 years a well-known television film actor and one of LA's top voiceover actors with hundreds of credits to his name He's provided the voices for Rocco and spunky on Nickelodeon's Rocco's modern life Mr. Weed on Fox's the family guy Laszlo on Cartoon Networks Camp Laszlo Bane in Justin's sleep doom and mr. Crocker on Nickelodeon's long-running series fairly odd parents Yes, one of the most famous roles was the voice of the Taco Bell Chihuahua for Taco Bell Which has been documented as one of the most well-known advertising campaigns of all time Carlos welcome to the show Yeah Chihuahua's Yo, Tiena, I'll talk about it. It's good or fairies. How did you get something like that? I was how many people auditioned for that? I really give Terry Burlant credit. She was directing the spot And it was one of those days maybe a Friday at four o'clock where I'm driving from the valley to the west side Discrumbling the whole way forwards on a piece of paper.  Yeah, we like that. Fine. Then a week later. They said, oh, yeah It's gonna be a commercial great then two weeks later done that and just spiral that a control and when not It was obviously a help that it played against the arc type of what we thought Small little Chihuahua voices the speedy Gonzalez is sounded like and it was really a brilliant directing direction by Terry Berlin that really got it all started. Wow, and that ran for like three or four years three and a half years Wow, that's lots of spots English Spanish and I was on Hollywood Squares Because I was the voice of the Taco Bell dog and Sugar Ray Leonard talked to me and remember at the time I was 44 years old. He goes man. He's man. You married. No, you got kids. No Sugar Ray Leonard is asking me for love advice because I'm the Taco Bell Chihuahua, you know When did you decide you wanted to be an actor you're from New York originally boarding Yorkers New York raised in Concord, California actually from the early 60s onward and I didn't decide that I wanted to be actor I knew I kind of got there through a certain circumvented path, you know I was an athlete and I played sports in high school and I avoided drama because I wanted to be cool I want to be tough but it secretly I watched Carol Burnett and Bob Newhart and I wanted to do that I didn't know how and then I didn't mount 1983 Mount I elbow YMCA camp. I started to do sketches with another guy Who was a big money Python fan? And so we did sketches for the kids. I really liked it I like like being up on stage. I like performing and I let it go for a while and then I went to call in college and 85 I 85 86 I'm at second restate playing soccer running track again the jock thing I had a professor go You're pretty good at voices and stuff. Why don't you try mime and I tried some mime And he goes why you try the stand-up comment comedy competition here at the Sacramento State And I did and I liked it and I started performing and then it quit because I got stage anxiety And then I got in a duo with a guy named Mark Fraze. He's now in Alabama and we did all these sketches We did a pick Floyd the barberer being interviewed by William F. Buckley on Dimo singing a white Christmas on a very white Christmas We did all and Ronald Reagan and all kinds of Jimmy Carter and all kinds of voices back then in the 80s and then I did a stand-up comedy and in 91 there was an audition for Rockers modern life Joe Murray San Jose Mercury panelists cartoonist I Had this project Rocco. I knew a manager Tracy Forester. She knew a guy at San Francisco State I think his name is Mark McNamara. He said you have any actor comics, you know Yeah, this Carlos. I was rocking his characters in a stand-up. I made a play push record cassette in somebody's kitchen I handed it in I walked into a place and there was Joe Murray and Nick Jennings who's now over at Cartoon Network doing the new Powerpuff girls and a guy named George Maestri. He was in a garage in San Francisco I didn't have an agent and they didn't want an Australian. They just said try Bruno Kirby You know Bruno Kirby from the freshman. No hobo English Kid bachi to tootie bachi. This is big. So I did something like that. I'm a wallaby They're like, all right, and then they said try Woody Allen. Yeah, I got a pouch I'm a muscle muscle peel and spunky.  You are good said again And they were laughing that kept me there and I said can we just try something like this And I read a vacuum manual and it was like plug hoe a into slot B Make sure the unit is not on when they're like, hey, that sounds kind of nice Send it off the Nickelodeon. They liked it We made a pilot at a place called poolside studios in 1991 behind the Mel's diner a lumbar stream Mel I don't think it's it there anymore lumbar and Steiner in San Francisco And they sent it off the Nickelodeon and I'm on the road doing stand-up comedy in Seattle And I get a call and they said Rocco. They're picking it up first series I get to get off the road and then in 93 I won the San Francisco International Stand-up Comedy Competition Rocco was just picking up as a pilot I was flying there once a week out of Oakland And I said let's move to LA and I got an agent Arlene Thornton and and then Rocco was Doing well and I did I got cat dog. I played Winslow. Hey cat dog Hello from the greasers and it really started to take off and that I didn't know I wanted to be an actor I think Until Rocco hit I know I wanted to be a performer and a comedian and maybe maybe get a sitcom or be on a sketch type show Like SNL, but I didn't think it would start through voiceover acting and there I met Charlie Adler Tom Kenny And I always famously tell the story of because Tom came out of stand-up and I actually suggested him for the role of Heifer Which he nailed of course and he's brilliant and the first day we went there We were newbies and here's Charlie Adler sitting down sitting. I gotta be somewhere. Let's go. Give me a copy And we're like Tom and I were like oh my god, we're in trouble And we were a little nervous, but we got our feet We got our feet under us after about 10 episodes and we were like we're not gonna get fired the executives like us And we started to learn and then on my second series I work with Jim Cummings and Tom Kenny and Billy West and I'm watching those guys work and Dwight fra not Dwight Dwight Schultz from the A team he was on the cat talk as well Maria Bamford one of her first cartoons but I really learned and started to appreciate being an actor by Watching Charlie and watching Billy and watching Tom and Doug Lawrence and Anybody I worked with so right see now I had the chance to hear all this stuff while my kids were writing in the back of the car Yeah, and I never I didn't get the chance to watch it, but I would hear it Yeah, and of course the writing was spectacular and the voice acting and it was you didn't really even need to see it I mean you could see you know know what the characters were doing, but it was so well written Yeah, Rocco is very adult Chucky chicken, you know they got that past the censors because they wanted to call it chubby chicken And that was already a legal name.   Obviously they were playing spank the monkey You know all these things that got by the censors in the first couple seasons And then Nickelodeon started to go go away from the Chris Felucia movement and Chris Felucia really was responsible with Red and Sippy for shows like Rocco and Angry beavers to come after it and get away with adult humor, but then they started to advertise towards a different audience and Towards kids towards selling merchandise and Rocco became a little bit more tame I will say and we'll probably get to that the special static cling that is coming out sometime this year in 2018 Where Rocco and his pals Goer thrust out of space in the in their time capsule and come back to earth and it's a new 21st century It that really returns to the subversiveness of the first two seasons It really echoes back to the what we would probably view as the true Rocco more adult I'm sure you were like what are my kids watching That He's the eye of the hurricane, you know it could all craziness around him.  It's always my the most favorite character I've ever done most favorite. So I was gonna ask who were your your influences you talked about you know watching You'll Carol Burnett all this other stuff, but it sounds like because of the people you've worked with You've probably got your training working with the top guys in the business. I did I always say my early training my origins My parents were from Argentina. My father is Argentina's my dad was British educated from a very early age did not have an accent My mom still Carlitos. You have to call me, please. I want to talk to you And so I would hear her and try to mimic her and then Kevin was my best friend growing up and his parents were from Glasgow, Scotland, and I didn't know I just started to imitate him I've had Auntie Les and she would talk like this Carlos You Kevin you're getting older every year look at you growing up and I'm called Donnie talk like this And so I was just fascinated and drawn towards all these different stimuli And I think that was my early training and like like like a lot of people that we meet in the voice That want to be voice-over actors the Bradley Baker has the definitive site Which answers a lot of questions, but we always say it does come down to acting There's a lot of people that can do great voices But the ability to pull it off the page that stuff I learned by watching Billy and Jim and later on April Winschel and Tara Strong and Great Delisle and Suzanne Blakesley and Darren Norris all the fair I started to learn how to become a better actor by watching them Because there was no fault and there was no formal training for me per se other than stand up and Billy West had always said Had always mentioned that somebody that's a musician or a stand-up comic Has a head start because they already participate in what he called the theater of the mind where we can see it in our heads And kids are wonderful at it. My little daughter Austin will take a doll go You better get out of here I don't want to talk to you they see it and we sort of lose that as adults But somehow voice-over actors as you know, we're very young and we still can pretend and see it in our heads So it makes it easier for us to pull it off a storyboard and recreate it because we already see it And and that's what was drilled into me by watching these other great actors It's like oh, that's how you do it. Yeah tricks of the trade, you know Tom Kenny's a standard when he Felt a Doug Lawrence would stand and do feel but turn in to watch the page turn your hands And Charlie and I were sitters because Walker was so subdued for me. It worked to sit down and go oh gosh I don't know. I'm so frightened So there were techniques. I would learn by watching different people and what worked for me I'm starting to learn even today. I'll watch other actors and just go wow I did I never tried that, you know, I never tried to pull a voice from there, you know So but we've we've had a lot of people on the show who Who are you know character actors a bit Debbie Dairy-Burion Tom's been on the show many years ago? We're gonna get him back on yeah and And they talk about how they create characters that seems similar in how they do it But they talk about you know drawing from somewhere and then adjusting. How do you create a character? Where does it come from? Yeah, he just gave a good demonstration of there's a couple of drones I'm doing a new character for a DreamWorks project NDA can he talk about it? But obviously the early influence of John Keeney Kevin's dad gave me the basis for that and this guy's a bit of a braggart too And he had some of that so those qualities I drew from somebody in real life Mr. Crocker was a hybrid and I give credit to Which Hartman for working me with me on this idea was Jean Wilder a little bit of Monty Burns Created by the the great Harry Shearer right the revenge is a dish best of cold Richard Dreyfus. There's a shark in the water. It's dangerous on this boat and Jean Wilder said a give and you blended them all together was like It was a blend and Billy West had told me early on you can create hybrid impressions if you don't do a great impression It's kind of an original character There's a character I did if you have boomerang the app the new Looney Tunes I play four non classic characters in the new Looney Tunes One of them is Leslie P. Lillie legs and he's my version of Jack Lemon in the out of towners Oh, I'm gonna call my lawyer and it's a little bit of Joe Flynn that I learned from Billy West But it's like why does that rabbit always get out of the fun? I'm the nephew. Why can't I get the job? He's a little similar to Crocker Tinge of Crocker, but mostly a bad Jack Lemon and that's what I learned like a bad impression is an original character You know if I did a bad Trump or something, you know people believe me, okay, believe me But if I took it up a notch and would believe me, okay, I don't know what's going on here But I don't like it. All right, I'm very famous That's an original character. So you can draw from real people politicians actors Billy West suggested watching all the turn it classic movies, you know the William Powell I always try to throw William Daniels in there when I can so funny I have a story when I was in Spomani restaurant in the Valley without looking up I'm with my wife and she was I had watched a thousand clowns one of my favorite movies Jason Robards and Barry Gordon And I My wife and I So Yeah drawing on and then with Rocco is the visual stimulation if you get a picture that is that you're your best Sort of because we physicalize things, you know Rocco had the teeth out to the side in the big long snout and Winslow It's like this little mouse. Hey, you can't talk you kind of get into it if you have the visual cue It's the same as the way I learned to imitate John was that upper lip never moved So yeah Kevin, you just better get your homework done before you're playing around all day And that's what helped the physicalization of your face and body helped Manipulate the windpipe and the vocal cords to deliver that sound. All right. Hey, if you're just joining us boy Have you been missing it? You've been missing it. Yeah, absolutely our guest is Carlos Alice Rocky who's been everything We've been talking about all these characters. If you've got a question for them toss it in our chat room right now And Jack Daniel is sitting there typing away making sure that your questions are answered when we get the chance to answer those So, how do you maintain a character? I that's probably one of the hardest things, you know, and some of the animation work I've done it's like yeah, you lose the accent or you can't maintain it How do you how what's your technique for that? This is the example that I use most of the time because I do of since 2001 I've been doing sound-alike I get the honor of getting to play Mike Wazowski, and I always say I'm not the original Billy Billy Crystal did such an amazing job of creating this beautiful character that I got the opportunity to be the sound-alike actor for all the merchandise and you know, I watch forget I didn't know I had it in me and Brian Monroe says you're a tenor. I don't know what that means Familiar with music at all. He goes no, you're right there and I go I don't think so But then I started watching forget about Paris and I watched it over and over and I'm watching a movie And there's a line in the movie. Yeah, I don't know anything about you But at least you can give me a hint or two. You got four brothers with bad ears. They love wrestling. Oh, yeah, you're married And so when I was doing Mike Wazowski, I started I would slip into the Muppets. I couldn't sustain it I would be like come on, we gotta get out of here. There's Mr. Waternoose, and I don't care about your frog here Okay, you're married. You're married. You're married. I would use a key phrase. You're married We'd get me right back into it. Here we go, Sully and then when you need to drop down an octave It's more Billy Crystal. So you go to that reference. So you have References placed in your head for rocker. It was oh my if I was coming out of voice one of the hardest things to do is Nowadays they want you to have that character when you audition and you know There's times during the audition where I where I fall out of it But I have the confidence now to ask the director if I'm working with somebody Can you steer me back towards it? If if you feel me slip and steer me back towards it Because then I'll get it after the years of experience, but it is the hardest thing to Develop a character and then stay with it, you know because sometimes sessions Seasons will end and there'll be a break. I play a Skyler and Lane Lane of Avalor Let's go princessa and my call phrase there is Latin America because sometimes I'll go let's go princessa We have to go to Avalor Avalor I got a Latin America get that accent in there again and he's more Latin American than East LA But sometimes I'll drift into a ricochet. Let's go family honor tradition So I have to pull back and go Latin America not not East LA by Latin And you know it physically changes your voice and it helps you get there helps you sustain it Which is a great thing about not having to be on camera for that. Yes Yeah Again, we're talking with Carlos all is rocky Your daughter's voice acting now too. Yeah, she sort of slipped into it. It's weird I think it's the safest arena of acting not to become a stage parent You know, she also does commercials and and she's done some on-camera auditioning as well for series Really going slow at it. But yeah, it's I think my daughter Riley my oldest my and my other one is super creative It Riley saw Annie. I'd never seen any and I'd swear I never see that her newsies cut to you I have a daughter and she loves Annie and she loves Newsy. So maybe at 15 months old She was singing tomorrow tomorrow. It just hit her and so she plays a carton of milk on Apple and onion on Cartoon Network She did the pilot and she plays one of the aliens on summer camp island and she's just got this weird Peanuts quality to our voice. She's good at mimicking and usually with the younger kids There are a couple of exceptional kids Riley is very creative But Christy Reed will direct her and and I tell her this happens with adults because I work with all kinds of directors Even as adults as proven season actors D Bradley Baker all of us, you know, the director's gonna have their idea of an attack, you know D's doing Daffy duck and he'll look You're just No, no, no, no say it like you're just pickable more tired He'll go and he'll say you'll have to say it the way the director and the creator one So my daughter will mimic Christy Reed will stand up in the booth and say oh my gosh.   It's it's pretty cool. And actually I'll see the copy. I'll give my two cents to my wife when we'll discuss it I go honey, you go in the booth with her cuz she's better. She's just like I do this for a living Yeah, whatever dad. I'm going in the booth with mom They've done a lot of on-screen stuff, too. Yeah talked about Reno 911 a little bit What was that experience like really wonderful because it was the closest to stand-up comedy it wasn't Having to find your mark or three camera shoot or hit the joke it was being able to improv all the dialogue So we were given the A B and C of a situation and sometimes not at all You know, sometimes they would just turn the camera on and say drive around and just improv some stuff And one of the most enjoyable times besides being with Cedric Yarbrough and having our chemistry Was Kenny Rogers was on an episode the gist of the episode was he has a book signing We think it's dangerous to take him straight to the ball So Garcia's job is to go on a circuitous route to shake all the fans and I researched a bunch of gambler movies all the Brady Hawk stuff and had a little no pad and I just started Hey, man a gambler one, you know when he did this and yeah, they thought you snuck out the back way But actually you snuck out in the coffin I thought that was really cool and he was right there with it and here I was improving with Kenny Rogers dressed like a fake cop and you would pull out in an intersection in your fake cop car Cars would stop I was playing cop It's dressed up and you know, and it was mustache acting I didn't want the mustache the spirit gun to come off So I kept my my upper lip still and it really helped me to kind of be more of a jerk It really helped me to be stiff and not and when I smiled I just smiled weird It really helped the character, but it was a blast We were just making up stuff and shooting fake guns Drive it if I fake cop car. It was like a teenager's dream. It was awesome They was I was saw William Shatner talk about what what makes a successful actor and it's the ability to improv Yes, and I would imagine that you probably do a lot of improv. You're still taking classes in that or you know I think I improv every time I go into a Session you're improvising Speaking of which and I don't want to forget about this, but I do doing stand-up comedy and and there are Times on stage where you're you're improving you'll get influence on a bit that you've already done I'm not actively taking classes, but Joe John Damage, and I were doing working on it Tigre the the in the incomparable Jorge Gutierrez who did book of life and many other things that works with Guillermo del Toro and We were just as voice actors or want to do we get bored and we're goofing around. He's like, I don't know what language Language is okay. Sure Fracassine, you know John's board.   It was funny and about a year later. I got Gary Anthony Williams I got Cedric Yarborough.  Thank you Thank you, and It's very do the right thing. It's for African-American gentlemen sitting out in front of a Filipino bakery and I play a character called Edilberto who was named after my one of my professors at Sacramento State Edilberto Cajucum and He talks like this and he has customers and they are always having arguments out inside In front of the cafe and scaring his customers away And then later on Eric Bowser came out and played my wife alert that which was one of his aunts and of course His Filipino accent is much better than mine, but I'm close second But we just improvised five cartoons when we did 53 minutes of improvisation Which my wife took down and made it into three minutes and the first episode is called monster talk and then we had Fred Fred Tad of sure to so one of my favorite lines for example is Man, I was what dragon is that no dragon sound got smelly Bolton isn't it? We're dragging it with suck-a-dry and then Fred Tad of sure gentlemen. I have to correct you It's not Frankenstein. That's Frankenstein's monster.  Thank you friend Tad of short for that brilliant rip I was wondering about that Anyway, again our guest is called us all is rock if you got a question for him put it in the chat room Jax Rapidly do we got any lots of questions there Jack people? I think he's saying so much information. Yeah, sorry people are just It's an avalanche. Okay. They hypnotized alrighty Before we get to the you know those questions we're gonna take a break in a few minutes here, but Seeing as most of our audience, you know, they're voice actors To you what's the key to going into an audition and and because you walk into this booth and you really got to be You have to take it to another place and how do you deliver each time? You know, I'm in a like a private friends group with curry Walgret and D raker and Suzanne Blakesley We all watched a penny dreadful and we only had we have did we drink bourbon? We have discussions and D said you got to know that you are you're a Nuclear artist to know you are a pro and you bring the goods So no matter what's going on on the other side of the booth Even if they don't like what you're doing, you know, you're good And so you have to walk in with that confidence to go I have some ideas about what I really would like to try if the director wants me to go a Different way. I want to be prepared for that. I remember I just had an audition at Nickelodeon For a series and I had some ideas about the character And I had a couple of backup plans because I knew that that would happen especially during a callback But it's it's being prepared having your backup plans ready and being flexible If you want the job, there are some situations where you just go, you know what? No, this is my best take and and I think this is what I want to give you It's very rare D D famously tells the story about the fish in American Dad Klaus, I think and they wanted a French fish and he goes I I really I've apologized that I don't want to do that for you because that would be giving you less than my best So let me I try German and it famously in that situation. It's where it worked for him He had the confidence to do that But I think when you go and audition it's having that confidence that they called you here because you are good So you have to believe that and then be prepared and in this latest audition I was really prepared with three or four different takes and then I and I and an idea came to me that the monkey like Lasso's from Brazil or South America. So it was a monkey character. So let me try something like this You know, he's a very charismatic guy and do something like this. Hey, what are you doing? And they loved it. I don't know if I'll get the part But you know what it was my best foot forward and it was because I was prepared to go any direction Right, sometimes we're locked in we see a character go. No, this is it. He's in New York.  We want somebody from the south Alrighty well, we're gonna take a break right now. We'll be right back with Carlos alls rocky here on voiceover body shop. Don't go away Skittles taste the rainbow She has fought for those who don't have a voice the national zoo Because sometimes you just need to stroke a llama Instagram download it and start embarrassing your teenagers today Resolve spot-and-stain because the dogs gonna drag his butt on the carpet. He just is $400 million. That's what the mayor wants you to pay for a new basketball stadium chickens were made to be fried Sorry, buddy KFC engage the droid army with this Lego Star Wars Republic fighter tank What you've never seen a girl kill a troll Game stock. Hey, I'm the cat meme guy. Come on.  Hi? 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I'll is Rocky here on voiceover body shop having a great time We have we have a bunch of students with us tonight from my exceptional mind studio Doing some great stuff, you know an animation and special effects over there So We've been talking you sing you don't really have a home studio. You've been explaining how you do Auditions in your car. Do what do you have a home studio? My home studio is this little phone and Sure, Mike that actually Debbie Dairy very recommended for the road and it really Probably most likely in a professional sense should be used when you're traveling and you don't have a studio and You maybe you're in a no quite hotel room.  You put it above your nose It's pretty darn good. It does the job. So in Lake Tahoe My daughter got very sick So I went to a laundromat and while the clothes were that I had like six auditions to do I jumped inside this car. I waited up everybody pulled out I did my additions in the car with my sure Mike and they did all right I've booked some jobs using the little M. M. Z. Sure the M. C. Sure. I've booked about seven or eight jobs using it Yes, the MV 88 yeah, it's a good little Mike it used to record Mostly music, but it does the job. But yeah, the preferred method is I do have a proper whisper booth with the proper padding You know, I'm looking to get a Sennheiser in there and upgrade a little bit make it a little nicer Just to up that quality in the proper windscreen, right? If you use the mic, right, you don't actually need a windscreen. I don't use the mic, right?  Oh, yeah, are you with a guy on the award show when the mic comes up out of the floor like? So Do we have any questions from our amazing studio audience? Okay, we also have a mic in the room as well for any way So if anybody has a question amongst our our voluminous audience here, it's right next to Jack over there First one's from Thomas matchin one of the people watching the show online tonight He's got a couple of them lined up here First one is does Carlos have time to make personal appearances like at the conventions because that would be a hoot Yeah, as a matter of fact, I'm going to the Indiana con Indianapolis Indiana March 29th, April 1st. A lot of great people will be there Jess Hardell Charlie Adler a lot of great guests will be at that one and then July 13 through 15 I'll be in Atlanta at the Atlanta con and we do a thing called twisted tunes through Jeff Zanini where We'll take a famous script and read different characters even either different celebrities like up the new I think I hit things or you know, Bayna's Rocko first they killed the bat then I killed the man So yeah, I'll be there and I do I'll be doing stand-up comedy with a really fun funny woman Who's a writer on Conan O'Brien and my neighbor Lori Kilmartin and a guy named Darren Carter if we're lucky Our friend Kari Peyton from Teen Titans and from Walking Dead Hopefully he'll come by and do a little something something that's at Flappers in Burbank Thursday April 19th.  Sounds like fun Another from Thomas. He says have you seen or heard changes in how you do a particular character voice over the life of a project Does the voice change? Yeah, it's certainly Rocko when I when I went back and reviewed for what we recently did static cling And we recorded I think a year ago November I want to say and Tom both all of us Tom dog and Charlie We all had to listen to our references mad Rocko sounded so high and I think I'm close I don't think I'm so weathered now that I can actually get the real rocker and list I really squeeze when I find that if I have cans and my volume is good I don't push us hard and I can get there much easier if I can hear myself better I don't really do the hardest thing for me is to do a higher-pitched voice Especially Mike was asking I got to be able to hear it and sometimes this Gary Owen thing works You know you make the conic thing you can hear yourself Get out of here silly Just works. So I Yeah, I find myself sometimes straining to get back to a character that I might have done more easily years ago The spy or the dragon the original dragon. Oh, watch out for nasty norc. I really have to think about it Yeah, as professional as everybody is. I mean, do you ever get people laughing on the other side of the glass and you got a hold for a second? Yeah, there's a character I did on um on New Looney Tunes named Elliot and there's a bad Sam Elliott and I always do Coors you myself and character So looks like bugs. I'm gonna spend his day looking for Elmer Fudd in a Coors Drill the Coors down Nothing bugs loves better than better than a carrot and some Coors You never know what on the day is gonna make people yeah, I remember we used to drive Colette sentiment crazy Jeff Bennett and I when we worked on last low. Hey scout national office, and he would do And he goes up he goes I sound like the guy from canine.   Yeah, I mean every laughing fits happen some of those some of those shows Yeah, Tom Kenny and I a lot on Rocco like kids in church Guys guys come on please and obviously I'm Reno 911 and happened a lot If you have the box set the first season Wendy and I are on a date She has she thinks she's having a baby So she's basically auditioning all the male people on the force to be a father And we go out to a restaurant and Garcia's all dressed up and she didn't know it was coming and I said I'll have a chicken quesadilla vegetarian tacos and the lady will have something of less than or equal value She didn't see it coming Ten times to get it out But when Nisi Nash who's now on claws and she did getting on when she did a character named TT She had the teeth in huh. There was two of them. They was there was trying to get me I would I'd have to run off camera to laugh So yeah, it happens in voice over it happens in on camera. She's a hilarious physical actor. She's very good comedian. Yeah You want to do the next one?  Your best tip is to record yourself Get a camera get your iPhone and watch yourself do it and see what you think see what it sounds like It's always weird like I'm looking at myself on camera to see Rocco come out of this and not the animated character Which would be behind me So yeah, it's to maybe get a source material Get a get a maybe to get a belly crystal or something or get a gene Wilder or whatever your favorite character is on television Now that's crazy Do it film yourself then compare it to the original see it We'll see what it's like or somebody you know in real life your neighbor Hey, you get your dogs off my lawn for crying out loud you and your dogs do your neighbor, you know Not that way, but do an impression of your neighbor one of the things that drills that I've done when I've guest coasted guest coached I do voice tracks West in South Solido, California as I I did a drill and I'm sure it's been done before Well, I had Two actors going to booth and I would pick them randomly and maybe one character guy was really a strong character And one was maybe more a commercial guy not so confident And I have them read the same copy and I would have them watch each other and the strong guy would go up first and go Hey, buddy. Get out of here. All right, and the other guy would go. Hey, buddy. Get out of here I'll go. Okay. Now what I want you to do is imitate each other You do your best version of him and you do your best version and it pulled Two characters out of them that they weren't even thinking about and it took them out of their heads and that and it Boosted their confidence level because they weren't trying to compete. They're like, oh, I don't have to be him I just have to be the best version of him, which is a character. I never even thought about and I really Have started to do that with with my own characters, too Like I recently auditioned for some classic characters that I know people are better than me But you know, I just did my best version and if I get it fine And if not, that's fine. I did the best I could but I had the confidence to go. Yeah, I've seen it I think I know how to do this. I'll give it a shot Cool. Don't be afraid. Just go for it. All right. Jack Daniel has a question. Yeah, make sure his mic is keyed up Is it keyed up? Yep. Carlos. Thank you for this. It's amazing Your audition process, let's say you just got a new piece of copy from your manager.  I'm really and I'm gonna I'm by the gut guy really Instinctual I've got copy. I have to go home and read tonight and I read it and I know the guy and Then sometimes I'll read it and hear it back and then if I'm not satisfied Then I'll really go down and lay down the research is if it's a character. I really want I Will go no or I run them all you want all the series But if it's like a really really big role, I really think about like the Nickelodeon one I recently had I'll think about many different directions I can go and I'll give my agents an A B and C and make them all disparate all different But I'll sit with it first get the kids to bed Read it a couple of times and really I'll read the other lines and understand the scene Not just that typical my line my line my line really what's the other character saying? To set as if it's a real sort of an on-camera acting piece Read the stage directions because sometimes that might be a cough or a laugh that you miss So re go over the fine details of the audition and make sure you don't miss those and really understand the whole scene Beyond your lines because what that other person says really reflects how you're gonna deliver it because when we're auditioning We're only auditioning for our lines. I'm not gonna hear the other things. So that's that's the key for sure Alrighty Tracy Reynolds. He asks have you auditioned for one character? But the producers like your audition for another character and does that happen much at all gosh? I'm trying to think I'm sure it has But I can't remember specifically maybe yeah for some of the Warner Brothers stuff on New Looney Tunes I might have auditions for some of the classic characters bugs or Daffy or Elmer and maybe they thought they heard something and said No, we got this idea for another character that you can do which is shameless Oshanti or Tadaka from Australia You know, so I'm trying to think of an instance where that actually did happen I know I auditioned for some characters in Spongebob and I ended up doing one or two episodes of Spongebob And that's really came from a comedian named Mike Pace who he did that in his act I go Mike I stole that laugh from you But yeah, I'm sure I just cannot think of the specific instance where that happened But that that's a key too is to I've certainly gone into an audition auditioning for one and go wait a minute Can you stay and read for another? So and I just don't remember the specific instances So that's another key is just if you don't think you're right for another one You could actually go to the audition and go do you mind if I read for this and sometimes it works out Interesting good good thing to remember Maxine has a question. Yeah, this one. Do that one Maxine Dunn Says and this is my girlfriend by the way. He was out in Boulder, Colorado Oh, yeah, there's a voice actor. She says do you still do sports or what do you do to stay fit? Because you know in good shape boy I actually a former skydiver actually skydiving Denver, Colorado in the winter years ago Okay, looking at Denver comedy works and I brought my ring jumped out of a Cessna 10,000 feet into pure white Beautiful and dangerous Asterisk and I used to go to the skydiving tunnel now I fly at Universal Studios to get the skydiving feeling again. I was playing tennis for a while I've suffered rotator cuff injury but I do elliptical and I do swimming now I walk my dogs twice a day I miss playing organized sports because I did play soccer and football and baseball and yeah I might get on a little five-on-five recreational soccer league here coming up with my because my legs are in pretty good shape So but mostly I'm hoping to jump back into tennis Jump back into the I fly tunnel and do my swimming and my elliptical They're not cool John worship asks does do you teach or can you recommend anyone in particular to? Yeah, I have taught and I teach privately to People coming to my house where they have copy if they have copy I can skype or FaceTime with them and go over the copy with them Charlie Adler, I love as a teacher Bob Bergen is very clinical very good The Debbie Dairyberry I believe teaches. She's wonderful. I've worked with her. She's wonderful. She's great Charlie I love because he's tough love and if you just know that Charlie loves you he comes off as gruffin Oh, come on. Just give me the copy before I chuck the life out of you. And that means he loves you But there's lots of wonderful teachers out there and I enjoy it I enjoy trying to get somebody to a point where they don't think they can get to I've Joey Paul has a class over at Bang Zoom Studios. I went and guest taught a class over there and I like it cuz I learned something too You learn something by watching going. Oh, I never thought of that It comes out of you. So yeah, I do teach good good Dylan has a question. Where's the mic give Dylan the mic? There we go Hello, so I stated this before but I was Last year I was an intern on the Nickelodeon show the Loud House And of course that's that was sort of an indirect connection because you were a member of the of the of Bobby and Ronnie and extended family the Casa Grande's uncle Carlos Casa Grande That was sort of a restrained character.  Yeah, did you know that if you blend vinegar and soda together? Yes, dad, you're boring So how is it like? How is it like doing a character where you kind of have to hold back a little bit doing the Versus doing the larger than life characters you tend to do Yeah, that's a good question subtle acting sometimes a lot is a lot harder. Yeah, cuz Carlos Casa Grande is like, okay kids We're going on a hike and then we're gonna see the museum It's hard it's harder. I mean when you do crackers mother. Get out of here. Oh Denzel. You're making mommy mad. Where's my girlfriend? If you're used to that becomes easier and then to tone it down to be subtle It was hard to go back to Rocco because Rocco is subtle. He's really sweet. Come on guys We go to we go to figure this out That was harder to turn back to that for sure. It's tough. It's difficult. I would say it's difficult Last question from Devox. Yes, he said did I hear something about getting together in a workout group? What are some good exercises? Especially group character work and tips about making those meetings run? Well, are you doing workout work participating in them? No, not per se. I know Fred Tad ashore and a couple of Paul rug We're doing things where they would improv read together and that was sort of a workout group for them But I think for them is is playing improv games Which is you can look up in any book on improv playing games or Having a story or creating characters on your own and improvising with them Whether it is poor guys in front of a table and a Filipino bakery or whatever scenario you want Between you and your friends create a scenario. Oh, we're in space We're like final space or we're like adventure time and I'm the king and you're the dragon And let's pick a voice and now let's just improvise a scene.   Yeah, it's and that's that's you know, it's it's just being fun It was fun when I hit with my kids were small and we would we would do a little animations and stuff And it's like just play. Yeah, it's just playing it really is there is obviously a professional Professionalism behind it as we stated being ready doing some preparation, which allows you to play So it's both it's it's learning how to act and then just letting it go and playing You know, sometimes it's the toughest thing when you walk in and that everybody's behind glass You can't hear what they're saying You just have to like play at your feet and as D Bradley Baker say, you know what I'm good I'm bringing it. I'm bringing all my weapons with me I'm gonna knock it out of the park and they may not like it It doesn't mean you didn't do a great job. It may not be their thing, right? You know, I've had many voice actors will tell you like man I nailed it. There's my best audition I've ever done or I stunk. Hey, you got a callback. What? Yeah, horrible. Yeah, have you ever had a casting director say that really sucked? I every time I go in It's like that was great No, there was a couple on-camera Auditions that I had were like they're like I made the choice It was not a choice they wanted but no, it's been rare with voiceover acting I might say it to myself. I go guys. I I'm sorry. This one's got me flummox I just don't think I got a beat on this and they'll say, okay, all right Well, we like what you did and you leave kind of frustrated, but no, it's very I don't think it's happened Maybe more than once Good to hear Carlos it has been a thrill and a pleasure a pleasure having you on the show tonight And you know telling us all about these sorts of things. Let me ask you this one last question as I'm curious What do you see is the future of animation because it's it's going crazy, you know on the internet and stuff? Have you been doing internet stuff or do you see it stuff getting shorter or I haven't there's a couple creators out There admit a couple creators in Savannah, Georgia that wanted a project where they needed a favor and I said, yeah I'd be happy to do a favorite that I think that's how Um Breadwinners started is Eric about a bowser got together with some animators and like can you help us make this short? But the future of animation is people taking their own endeavors themselves for writing producing creating and putting it up on their own channel and Almost like what happened with trade Parker and a tree Wilson is a tree Parker and Matt Stone and Matt Stone from from South Park, I think returning to that model make your own content. I see that happening a lot I see there's many more avenues that I'm auditioning for for Hulu or Amazon or Netflix. So that's Even low-budget features animation are happening. So there's work as a doing scratch work for big feature animation There's loop groups. I think the the future is pretty amazing There's gonna be so many different avenues boomerang is an app on your phone and that's where new loony tunes went It's not on a network and so see you guys it's possible All right, well, thanks for being with us. It's been great. Thank you for having me. 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