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You can open Incognito if using Google Chrome with the three dots in the browser. Incognito window type in the search engine. QuickBooks Online Test Drive. We're going to use the sample company to compare the accountant view, the one get great guitars is in and the business view, the one the sample company is in. You can toggle between the two by going to the cog up top, switch the view down below. Duplicating some tabs like we do every time. Right click in the tab up top to duplicate it. Right click in the tab up top to duplicate again, back to the middle while the right is thinking. And we're going to go to the reports on the left. Open up the balance sheet again, again. By the way, if you're in the business view, the reports are located in the business overview. And then the reports on the left hand side back to the tab to the right reports on the left. And then the profit and loss in the middle closing the hand boogie up at the top left. And then in the middle kind of upper left section, we're going to change in the range in 010123 to 022823 hitting the drop down, but not too hard with the months and running it. So we got the side by side. Then we're going to go to the tab to the left, close up the hamburger and change the range. We're going from 010123 to 022823 tab. Let's hit the side by side. I'm not one as well with the month by month break down, run it to refresh it. There we have it. We've been talking about the adjusting entries last time. We're going to be looking at the specific adjusting entry this time related to interest. So that's going to be dealing with one of our issues with the loans down below. So we're looking at these loans. I'm going to say the cutoff date is February 28th. Oftentimes you might see a cutoff date as the year end cutoff date. We're trying to make our financial statements correct as of this point in time. And one of the issues with the loans might be that we had some interest that has been incurred that we have not yet recorded. And interest can be a little bit of an abstract concept. It's a little bit more concrete. A lot of times in people's minds, you can imagine if you're renting a building, for example, you got your office building there. And for whatever reason, you were able to negotiate a deal with your landlord saying, I'm going to use the building for the next year and I won't pay you until after that time, the year after I've used it, right? After it's been used for a year, then I'll pay you after that. And if you obviously deals like this, you can imagine them happening as long as you paid them enough money to be paying them at a later point in time and they trusted you and so on. And in that case, you would say, well, if you report the expense after you use the building, then it's not exactly correct because you consumed the use of the building from an accrual standpoint in the prior year. So if you report the expense in the following year, you have a timing difference. You would think you would have to report the expense of consuming the building when you used it. The same can be said for the interest. Interest is basically rent on the purchasing power of the money. You've got money so that you could buy property, plants and equipment and generate revenue on it. And if, and if, if they, if they, when you pay back the rent on the money, if you've consumed some of the purchasing power, you should be applying the rent on the money, the interest to the same period that you used to consume it. That's the basic concept that we're going to here. Now to think about this, we're going to construct an amortization table, which is a little bit different than a standard amortization table, just so we can get a good feel for this. This might be going a little bit overboard. You don't have to construct an amortization table all, all the time, but it's useful to get an idea of what's happening. So we're going to go to Excel, construct our amortization schedule. We'll do it fairly quickly since this is not an Excel course. Okay, so I'm going to put the data on the left hand side. So we have the loan balance, the months, we'll say, months of the loan, which could be the periods, because it's going to be less than a year. We'll say the rate that we're going to have, and then the payments that we're going to make. Let's format the entire worksheet now. I'm going to put my cursor on the triangle and put my ground line or baseline formatting the whole sheet selected, right clicking on it, formatting the selected sheet. Then I'm going to go down to currency. I usually go to bracketed red numbers for negatives, get rid of the dollar sign, and let's keep the decimals. We'll keep the decimals in place and say, okay, and then I'm going to make it bold so that hopefully that stands out when we're doing the recording. Notice I put all this stuff on line five instead of line one, which is where I wanted it. So I'm just going to delete rows one to four, selecting those rows, right clicking and just delete those. So we've got the information up on a one to start with because that makes sense. Okay, so then I'm going to say that the loan is for 5,000. That's what we took the loan out when we financed our equipment for. And let's say it was just for a three month loan. We're just going to make it a small loan because I want to make the numbers a little bit more significant for our adjusting entry. I'm also going to make the interest rate quite high because I want to make it significant for our accrual entry here. So I'm going to say percent and then the payment. I'll do a calculation for the payment just to show you how you can calculate the payment. Oftentimes when financing the equipment, they would give you the calculation of the payment, but not that might not be so clear about the rate, for example, or or, you know, you could back into the end of these other two items if you knew the payment amount. And so whenever you're dealing with a loan person, the financing department, you probably want to make sure that you're thinking through things yourself, right? And so that you fully understand all the components that are involved because those finance departments cannot, can be a little, a little, little scammy sometimes. So in any case, so I'm going to say negative PMT. That's the payment calculation. We're going to pick up the rate, which is going to be up one. That's going to be B three. That's a rate for a yearly rate. We're going to imagine that's a yearly rate, right? Which is normally what people talk in when they think about rates, yearly rates, I got to break it down to divided by 12, a monthly rate, comma, the number of periods is just three that is in months now. So I don't need to divide by 12. That's not three years, three months. So now the rate is tied out to the same period structure as the number of payments, comma, the present value, that is going to be the 500. And that's all we really need to calculate the payment. If I didn't have a negative and I put an equal instead, it would be a positive, it would be a negative number when I finish it. So this flips the sign for me. It's probably not the most proper way to do it. You put the negative inside the formula, but that is the easiest way to do it. I find, so I'm going to do that. And then we got that. And so I'm going to close up. I'm going to make skinny C or make C skinny, whichever way you want to say it, I'm making a skinny C. And then I'll put my headers, I'm going to say periods, or you might just say months, let's say, let's say periods, periods, and then payments, interest. I'm going to put a top loan reduction. Notice that I decided to put my header on two lines instead of doing something like this loan reduction, which you could do and you could home tab alignment, wrap the text, but then it kind of messes everything up to the side. So I don't like doing that unless I'm making a table out of it. And I'll just break it out into however many lines I think it needs.  So I'm going to say this is going to be loan balance. You also might call it principal reduction and this being the principal, but then you might misspell principal all the time because there's two principles apparently and people are quite adamant about pointing that out. So I'm going to say that the, we have the bucket here. Let's make this black and white. And then I'm going to go to alignment and center these items. And then let's say that these are going to be our, our payment dates. I'm going to format this whole thing as a month by month type of thing. So I can select this and I could go to the number formatting and let's say we want to make it like a short date, short date. So I'm going to say this is on two 15. Let's say it's still pretty long for the date. Sometimes I like to get rid of the year, but we'll keep it on that. This is going to be on three 15, four 15, and it should copy down and see the next, you know, pattern here, five 15. So there's our three months. We're going to start off at 5,000. So I'm just going to say 5,000. The payment is going to be equal to this one, seven, six, four, 82. I'm going to copy that down. I don't want it to move when I go down. Therefore I'm making it absolute, selecting F4 and the keyboard, putting a dollar sign before the B and the four. You only need a mixed reference, but an absolute one will work. Meaning if I copy this down, putting my cursor on the fill handle to copy down, you get the same number it pulling from the same source data. The interest in month in the, in the first month after the first payment is going to be equal to the 5,000 times the rate of 35%, but that's the yearly rate. So I need to divide that by 12. Now anything that's outside of my, my field here where I'm working, that's in the dataset, I need to make absolute because when I copy it down, I don't want it to move down. So this one in column B, I'm going to put my cursor in there, select F4 and the keyboard, dollar sign before the B and the three. You only need a mixed reference, but that works. If I copy that one down, it doesn't look right yet, but I can see that it's picking up the cells that I want. That number's not moving down is the point. Here's the difference then. This is the payment that I'm making minus the interest portion. This is the loan reduction. So the balance is going to be 5,000 minus that loan reduction. So now we're at 3,381.01 for our new loan balance. The interest is changing dramatically because the loan balance has changed. It's being properly calculated. So then if I copy these two down, I can copy this one down. So now this is the difference and this is our balance after two payments. And if I copy it down one more time, it should be to zero. And that's the point. So we're going to imagine here that our cutoff date is 228. And so you can say, okay, well, the next payment that we make is going to be on 315. The problem is that I have 15 days before the cutoff and 15 days after the cutoff. Now this is not a very, that means that part of this interest should be applied to the cut before the cutoff and part of it, half of it about should be after the cutoff. Now note that this isn't like a significantly high number. That's why I tried to make the interest a little bit larger here. But you can imagine loan structures could be structured where they're not basically monthly payments or they could be larger monthly payments and whatnot. And so you can imagine a situation where this gets significant just like with rent and an office building, if they structured the terms so that you pay at a different time than the accrual concept is trying to say, hey, look, you need to be recording the expense when you incurred it, not when you paid it. That's the general idea. So in this case, what's it going to be? It's going to be equal to this 145.83 divided by two. That's about the amount of interest that was incurred in February, which won't actually be recorded until we make the next payment in March. So in other words, I need to pull this 72.92 into February. The dollar amount is low, therefore it might be in material in practice in this case. But the concept would remain the same and you can imagine the amount being material, significant to decision making and so on, and therefore relevant. So that's the idea. So now let's make the transaction. Okay, so now we can just enter the journal entry. So I'm going to go back to the QuickBooks. Let's go back on over, back on over. And so now what I need to do then is record the interest that has been accrued. I'm going to make a new liability account, which could be called accrued interest or interest payable. And then the other side is going to be going to interest expense. Now I can do that with a journal entry. If I hit the plus button, we can make a journal entry, but there's only two accounts affected. So I could do that journal entry instead of with like a debit and credit format. We could do this in terms of the ledger journal entry, which will still see the debits and credits, but use that format. So I'll do that tab to the left. And I'm going to go down to the chart of accounts. So I'm going to go down to my, no, the accounting, accounting and then the chart of accounts. If you're in the business view, by the way, going to the business view, the chart of accounts is under the bookkeeping on the left hand side. And then the chart of accounts. And you have to hit that to see it if you're in the sample company. Okay. So I'm going to close this up. Now the first thing we need to do is enter an interest payable account, because I don't think they have one. I'll double check down here. So we got other current assets, loan payable. So, okay. So I don't think so. So I'm going to say, let's go up top and say new button. And it's going to be a liability type of account. It's going to be an other current liability, other current liability and tax form. I'll just call it loan payable. I'm not, again, I'm not really concerned with the tax line at this point, because I'm not going to import it directly into tax software. I don't think that's efficiently done at this point in time. And then the name is going to be, it's going to be, you could call it accrued interest. I like to call it interest payable, which may not sound quite as sophisticated, but the payable, I think more clearly says, hey, this is a liability kind of account to me than saying accrued something accrued, meaning accumulated interest, you know, that hasn't been paid or whatever. So I'm going to say, let's save it. Now I could do the adjusting entry. Now the two accounts that are impacted are an expense account, which doesn't have a register. So I can't use that account if I want to use a register or a balance sheet account, which does have a register. So if I'm going to use the register, I got to find that interest payable, which is an other current liability that I just put in place here. So let's see. Where is it? There it is. There it is. Let's open the register with it, register. And then I'm just going to hit the dropdown. I'm going to make a journal entry, but do it into the register. And it's going to be as of the end of the cutoff date. All of them are going to be 022823 cutoff date. I'll keep that. The name is fine, or the number is fine. And I'm going to put in the membo adjusting entry. And I might want to put like more than that in the memo. Let's say adj to explain exactly what I'm doing. But at the very least, I want to say, Hey, look, this is an adjusting entry, especially in any time, whether I'm doing it and I'm doing the bookkeeping, or if I'm like an accountant doing the adjusting entries and trying to work with a bookkeeper, because I want to, when I'm looking at it from the bookkeepers perspective, see what someone did as an adjusting entry versus what was done from the bookkeeping side of things. I can see that a couple different ways. One, it's going to be entered with a journal entry, which is an indication that it's an adjusting entry. It's going to be entered as of the end of the period, which is an indication that it's an adjusting entry. And I'm going to put it in the memo. All right. And then I'm going to say this is 72.92 increase over here. And the other side is going to go to interest expense, interest expense. I'm going to pick that up. Boom. All right. I think that is it. So let's save it and close it over here. Let's save it and close it. And then let's see what happens going back to my balance sheet, running it, running and scrolling down. We've got the interest payable 72.92. Mui B to the end. It's a journal entry type of form. If I go into it, we go into the debits and the credit side of things. I'm going to put this adjusting entry thing on both sides for the memo description. There's, there it is in debit and credit format. And so we're going to say okay. And scrolling up top again. The other side's on the income statement. And we put it down here somewhere into interest, interest expense. This seems to only be going for January 022823. Okay. Paso with that. Let's see. I thought I wanted this on a side by side. What in the world happened? It's not how things are supposed to be. So interest expense. So if I go into interest expense, then there's the 72 on this side. So that looks good. So now in theory, we've got this correct. Now, as of, as of the cutoff date, it's a classic adjusting entry. We've got an income side to it and a balance sheet side to it. But it might actually mess up the accounting department who was was thinking they're just going to record a normal journal entry according to the amortization schedule in March. Therefore, we might want to do a reversing entry for this one because what the accounting department is doing is fine from their end. And we want to let them keep doing what they're doing without getting messed up with our transaction to make things perfect as well as we can as of the cutoff date. So we're going to end up doing a reversing entry. We'll see that next time. Also, just want to show another report. If I right click and duplicate this, we can go to the reports on the left hand side. And if I go down to the journal report, I'll just type it in here instead of going and finding it journal report. Then this is the report that we can basically show our adjusting entries. Now these are showing all journal entries here. I can limit the journal entries by one date up top going from 0 to 28, 23, 0 to 28, 23. So I'm looking at journal entries for one date. And then I want to look at journal entry forms, things that are entered with a journal entry. And I can limit it that way as well by customizing and say I want to look at the filters, transaction type, and look at just the journal entries and then run that. So now we've got we've got just the journal entries. Now note, I still have a couple of journal entries up top here that we're on 228. So it's not a perfect, it's not perfect, but it does limit me to being able to see the journal entries that are in place. And of course, if I wanted to provide this say to a client or something to show them our adjusting entries, I could export this to Excel and delete the other entries that are not part of my adjusting entries so we can be clear on exactly what we did versus what's being done in the accounting department. Okay, let's open up the the trial balance because we did do an adjustment. A change has been made. So let's go to the reports up top and type in trustee trial balance, trial balance. And then I'll change the range from<PHONE_NUMBER>23, run it to refresh it. Let's see it on a side by side. Here you go messing up the dates again. What the hell's what's wrong with you today, man? Confusing people. You're confusing people. I can't do it anymore.  My career is ruined. Okay, so if your numbers tie out to these numbers looks good. If not, then try expanding the date. Sometimes it's a date range. Issue will be running another journal report at the end of the adjusting entry process to further drill down on the differences.


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tix i was like man we gotta rock out i wanted to ask you about uh different things that been going on you know here lately man couldn't believe that uh uh what had happened up there at uh the same rascals that i usually sometime go to uh p&b rock the the dude that uh basically was inside of there they at first said that it was something that was uh related to gangs and all you know but when you see stuff happen like that what do you uh what do you what do you think about it you know because you guys been seeing this forever though in in LA like where where things get and it's not just in LA it's everywhere it's everywhere i mean everywhere it's it's it's the policy what you talk about it check it in check it in is a courtesy of wherever you go i just left Chicago i checked in with the nation of islam i checked in was because i don't know the temperature of chicago i don't want to be in the wrong place at the right time and be a have a tag on my toe i've been in 40 states of the united states keeping the crime rate up and i checked in because i i don't know what your town is doing that's a courtesy and when you get and nobody ever had a problem with checking in before a white boy to kashi six nine said he wasn't checking in and then niggas went crazy about checking in if a white man don't say nick rose act like you know so it's see that you have to understand the difference between checking in and being taxed see you can get taxed i can come to come to uh dallas come to forward work and you say uh check this out i told him it cost you a five thousand to run our track you know we gotta we gotta do this and either i gotta pay it i don't pay you understand me pay a fight then some people call it paying rent to come in your state because this is how you run your razor now as a common courtesy i say well hey uh e i'm coming to dallas wait right now don't don't come down uh elam because uh traffic kind of heavy down here take the back row so that's the courtesy of checking in it's nothing wrong with checking in people talk about this not checking in this when you understand what your boundaries are when you come to california if you ain't checking in stay your ass north of wilshire because the gangbanks ain't coming north of wilshire or stay in disney land where the lambs be in disney land or stay in the valley with the valley girls that's what if you come in the jungle be ready to get eaten up by the tiger wow vmb could have been anywhere he could have went to roscoe's on manchester la senegal he could have went to roscoe's in hollywood he could have went to roscoe's in long beach he could have went to the roscoe's in in disney land but his destiny took him there because he didn't check in wow you know yeah yeah so if he'd have checked in it somebody would have told him dude okay cuz of blood you're going you're gonna we'll we'll have somebody to meet you on manchester in man because it's security it's things everybody um just like this this brother with the migos that just got killed take off take off if you understand the dynamics there uh the management group he was with was called quality control yeah quality control with with uh uh coach k and p uh pierre they broke off from they uh they didn't they didn't need quality control no more and they went to texas so their security blanket was gone right the protection wasn't there no more probably coach k would have called somebody in texas man my boys is coming down that's what kept them before so when you think you're bigger than the organization these kind of fatalities can happen so we got to always remember that man this is bigger than just you you know yeah yeah so you know even when when biggie got killed when biggie got killed puffy had to pull la pd securing him and his security but biggie didn't have no security uh wow that's crazy you know because you would think it'd be vice versa you think it'd be vice versa but sometimes you just casualties of war wow after biggie puffy didn't go down he went all the way up he did now when park got killed it was something in house and park the two people at park let me not say care trusted the most frank and thomas they both dead so now park didn't care nothing about the police didn't deal with them at all so was he a casualty of this crime or was he wanted to well get rid of him and after he died should never got any better he didn't go up he went all the way down so it wasn't behooving him but the same people that was involved in all this is one man that's with them reggie was there when park got killed reggie was there when biggie got killed he was there when bunchery got killed and i know for a fact i know for a fact that poochie didn't kill uh biggie small wow and he didn't kill bunch right so why why are they getting these stories if i mean the police really every will believe any story but it's hard to believe the truth line yeah yeah you know if you keep on saying it over and over and over it's just like these dudes that talk about big you i don't know big you from a count of paint we never never never maddie he's in la i'm in count and i got some business island but this dude has done something for the community he took a hundred boys and put suits on them and changed their lives and it's two yosemite sam and charlie they talk about his own grid and he's this and he's that and he's a snitch but none of his homeboys said he snitched do you know what the dude that killed um nipsey if he had a told the police that he was hired to kill him by uh big you what kind of deal he would have gotten real tall yeah because you've heard you've heard insinuations of different but these same title tales that's talking about what big you character big you just don't know how to orientate himself he's a doer he's not a talker he's not a conversial kind of guy if you listen to his he's not a public speaker yeah but he's a doer and ain't nobody in his hood ever said you can't get nobody to say it oh he works for grit who he told on yeah but your dudes is getting on podcast talking about where you were so sound like a velachi theory to me and you keep on saying it keep on saying it people believe it huh yeah yeah I always anytime I reach out to him um always respect always try to help you know for us through the people that I know to link with him yeah so I never so just that's on good vibes right yeah on that element I just say that people it's a gang of stuff that people say about you don't make it true mm-hmm and things that you do um blad tv they talk about him too though they say he exploited the people that white man he is every white man do damn which one don't he just exploit black people yeah he don't have no asians on there he don't have no Mexicans on there he got these coons jumping up and down doing interviews for free for 15 seconds of glory and he's getting paid mm-hmm it's another form of slavery I mean we're still doing it yeah but I really could be slave with you then what a cracker you know you don't you don't mess with him no now that he ain't paying me yeah yeah I'm a paid slave yeah haha still a slave you know it's just like you know we you got your boy Charlie he talks about how this is happening y'all gonna talk about Jerry Jones right your owner of the Dallas Cowboys he was in the Ku Klux Klan meeting not letting blacks in school but he had to change your did he or did he have a change your heart oh he don't have any blacks in the upper echelon of his of his establishment so he got the same racist mentality they did when he stood up in high school and not one blacks to come in their high school wow oh I was young and I mean so our Kelly was young too like everybody was young but whatever when when Kanye West said something that Nick Rose it gets over our head we take things that emotional or Kanye said slavery is a choice well he didn't say the slaves that came here had a choice but when you take a million dollars and this cracker tell you what to do you have a choice to say yes or no huh so slavery is a choice yeah so he talked about pre-tits so whatever it is now what did he try to be a first slave they start be mangling them huh putting him in his place Kyrie Irvin made a statement about a movie but they never said a thing about Amazon they put the movie out huh you're right I never heard I never heard him say they said after the after the interview with Kyrie Irvin they their sales went up 75 percent but did they donate it to the blacks in America but we look at the little picture we don't look at the big picture it's easy for us to say what our children are doing we're the only race on the planet that criticize our children you don't hear Mexicans criticizing their kids you don't hear Japs criticizing their children let them grow even a white man he ain't gonna criticize if I mean I was going to high school I was going to gargoyle in high school it was predominantly white if a white boy hung out with us his parents would disown him you don't want to be a nigga you just act like the niggas and come back at 21 and be white again you know what I'm saying but we embrace everybody but each other they don't invite us to Cinco de Mayo and when you come they start speaking Spanish so you don't know what you're talking about wow but we have black history month we want everybody in there huh let me ask you something like when you look at like like you brought up a valid point I've been watching it like like everybody you see is affiliated themselves with some kind of way like like we talked about Chris Brown that time when we talked about Chris Brown everybody was listening looking and but Chris Brown ain't the only one that was doing you know that that represents and I just shoot at that time I use Chris's name because Chris he did for Compton as much as Compton asked asked for nothing you get nothing you didn't want to say he never violated you know what I'm saying so his name just came because he was from Fruittown and this and but other people exploit your hood yeah you understand and it's not that we we exploit each other if it if it if it was if it was a white man come on we'll pay him a million dollars when I asked you to do something I want you to do it for free yeah that's right uh Steve Harvey and I don't even like Steve Harvey you know uh you know he's a cool he's a selfish self-centered person but he said something one thing that made so much he said if you're my friend why should I give you a ticket you should support me buy a ticket yeah every friend I'm hey oh can you get me in for free what friendship if I like what you're doing I'm gonna pay to come I'm not gonna ask you to hey man can you see me a ticket to come to Dallas no I if I need to come here I'm gonna come yeah because I feel like you're a friend exactly and and if I needed something I could definitely can you get what I'm saying yeah that's real right so so it's just the things that we do amongst each other are so negative and we don't look at the picture we always talk about the problem we never talk about the solution I want to go back to uh Steve Harvey why you don't like Steve Harvey I was I was in California when he came to California and he embraced the nation of Islam and he and then the nation of Islam being naive we're not being naive introduced him to deal dog them and the main street Crips and he said I don't need you niggas no more wow you did it was so only for a season so yeah so even though his bodyguard is the one that wrote the first book and he was so jealous of I can't even think of brother's name he wrote this book and they were going to different tours and he was signing autographs and Steve became so jealous he wrote he wrote a book just like it think like a man act like a woman yeah think like a man yeah he got that from his bodyguard what he's so you look nephew Tommy is talented yeah Steve is not his jokes are wack everything he'd do is dumb he was so dumb one time we was at the Hollywood at the forum and they was the kings of comedy and when he came on his jokes was so I do like man shut up through a Hennessy bottle and he said man I don't care what you like my me or not I got a role let's watch y'all paid for this get in and yeah you paid to get in here wow so you know that's my personal if he rich I don't care well I like him or not it ain't important to him you mentioned that you say Charleston so he was in California yeah he came to California and he claimed that some guy interviewed him wanted to pay him 30 thousand dollars so with the temporary way it was he came in and and he got taxed he came to California got a security team some meskens and some other whoever they was and he stayed his ass in Anaheim he didn't come to the hood and he paid him ten thousand dollars to come to California that's being taxed if he was a legitimate dude he could have checked in with somebody wow for free so I you know I've been in I've been in hiding because I had a contract on me and Yosemite Sam he was going to kill me uh uh pretended to and I got so many letters from prison and and some real legitimate homies you know but I just had to man it's all entertainment entertainment so so when you when you look at at what the uh the masses are are are projecting to our people as when you look at the way that the internet portrays us because it is what it is you know what I mean we're still gestures and coons compared to before there was you know the internet the internet wave you look at how you felt about the people then and you look at now is it the thing that does it seem to be the same as it was then well I'm gonna tell you what I'm I'm gonna tell you what Melvin Farmer said I don't even watch that stuff I don't know I'm gonna keep everything pure I'm not I'm not on the internet you know I I got more things to do with my life I got children to take care of at the homes I got and keeping the crime rate it's a four-time job yeah I don't I don't play video games and I don't watch the media yeah I'm a real grown man no that's and that's and that's live man so I mean when I look at like I said you you being in California man the way they portray the the the gangs and the way that they look at it is if you know it started off a good thing where it's helping the community that it's never was the gangs it never helped the community that's why that's a narrative so that okay so that's that's something to talk about right if you ask about the gangs when they started in 69 70 how many white folks how many times in Hollywood did they disrupt when they started gang before doing Christmas time about this time on 92nd and Avalon between Avalon and Central they had an array of every house had Christmas declarations on it and it was just amazing mothers would walk their children up and down the street to see these different ornaments when gang started they start terrorizing the people's houses breaking the ornaments still in light bulbs and they ended Christmas wow not that Christmas is great but it's a foundation for families to go on whether you believe it or not you know it's something that the black community that cherished we had watch stacks we had to watch summer festival all that was eliminated through gang activity so what good did they do to community what was they protecting they were still in leather coats then they start still in t-shirt they could have took the same leather coat from Sears or Macy's but they took it off another kid that his mother had to work for it so what good did the gang do the community I hear the life there we started protecting that what did you protect you didn't kill no police how many police murders through gangs have you in California added up our weight so no it was not to protect the community it was uh an assassination of the community and we haven't vibrated back from that jet you know it's still Compton is in the worst condition now today in 2022 than it was in 1970 we had black businesses today you cannot go to Compton and get go to a black restaurant you cannot go to a black store it's nothing in Compton we'll have every major city has a main street named Martin Luther King but Compton the first black city west of the mississippi's but how can we make a change kill everybody and start over again how can we make a um because that's not gonna happen it's not gonna happen so we're in a position now so you say it will never change it'll never change you know and it's not we will never change uh in Islam it says that god will never change a man until he changes his own heart and until we change the heart of the people and it says if the generation does not change a lot will destroy that whole generation and make a new one so our end game is over it's on how you can save yourself uh you know um um the the famous gangster Al Capone said one time at a meeting he says life is like baseball when you get up to hit if you hit a home run it's good for the team but if it's if you strike out it's just you that's true you know what i'm saying so we we've come into a baseball right now it's what you can do for yourself and how you can make a change like pox said it don't take but one you mentioned to cash it six nine earlier did you know to him whack 100 of friends yeah they run together birds of snitches of a feather right together i'm just i because i'd heard i know i'm gonna say man i know they used to run together or they he mentioned the other day when i was watching something that that was his that Takashi said that that he was a friend of his yeah you know that they worked together and he defended it i mean but you said earlier 90 percent of every a man said one time we was on the county jail bus going to court and uh this this guy that supposed to been crazy he get on the bus and everybody was hackling him crazy oh oh blood this blood that dude turn around and say what he meant you say i'm crazy he said and you said i'm snitching he said but every one of y'all on this bus is snitches he said when you tell the police your name you if you tell on you you'll tell on anybody huh he said look at this wristband he said my name is john doe i made him give me a name i didn't tell him nothing wow because they tell you when they arrest you have a right to remain silent anything you say can and will be held against you and we start talking we start talking every time well see no it didn't happen like this uh see me and fred was together and fred fred who was fred fred his mama stay over here and we was all over here and we did and the riko act when you was talking about the riko act earlier the riko act is a conglomerate of continued criminal experience not just because you're there they have to monitor that you and you and me conspired on an ongoing criminal investigation just because you stand in there don't make that ain't gonna be enough no it doesn't and in the in the feds when you take if if all of us are busted together and y'all get 20 years and i get five i told on you everybody dudes we don't remain so and so snitched on me when you take a deal you snitched on yourself so you're gonna kill you these dudes who took a deal in the feds when you take a deal it's called an accepting responsibility so i have to tell the judge every element of the crime when i got to the door queen opened the door boss talk was interviewing a guy here and this lady was sitting over here you have to tell every element of the crime to get your deal you just case in the state you can just say i'm guilty in the feds you have to accept responsibility wow and would you accept the responsibility i got to tell on you you and you what was the question you was asking about gunner what it was because she asking this question so she got to get that out um no it's just that do you think he um let me see no jumpers here tell me about it um what do you think about gunna snitching to get out of jail it was gunna and young thug when he in together they've been locked up the whole time together on the recal choice because he signed paperwork today he signed paperwork gunna is the one that was with young thug down in Atlanta when when they when them boys go counter no i don't know yeah they they got if one gets released what does that mean he just said it earlier yeah but that what he was saying that one get five another ten but if you get locked up with somebody y'all both got locked up on a recal charge they got y'all together now all of a sudden one gets out and the other one still because when i look at comments of what people are saying they're saying that gunna was supposed to have his case next march and all of a sudden now he released and he released from jail you know sort of like they just look so fishy really it is fishy so i mean if we if we all get busted together and amazingly that jesus just slide me out he slide me out for a purpose right yeah yeah so i mean i don't know i don't i don't know the case i don't know anything i can't speak on it intelligently yeah yeah so i don't want to speculate on what nobody is in or out but 90 percent of everybody is snitching 90 percent 90 percent see he got the same analogy 90 percent they got they get they get it in we talking especially with blacks we talking wow i seen you on a picture with uh sauce walker uh when you went when he was up there when he went through his thing i just give me a breakdown of how that even how that even happens man uh i was i was working uh and in the pop shops in my business pops grow farms and uh brother came through and he's like he popped up like oh gee i didn't know i didn't know who he was you know i so he told me it was sauce walker and he was out of out of out of houston and we uh took a couple of pictures together and found out that we knew some of the same people back when i was back there in in the 70s in the 70s yeah yeah wow so so that's a good link because he's a real like he's a real permanent entrepreneur and that's what i heard he's one of those guys when they come down to texas oh yeah i just did a podcast melvin set us up with a podcast with some some little brothers out of uh houston did a we did a real good interview well they did they took some stuff that i had said about minister farrakhan i'm gonna be lasha mohammed malcom x and collid mohammed okay so real good information i think it was it was my information well yours is i mean it's 100 it was legitimate i mean from what i know yeah yeah so yeah so okay so so basically i i mean you've been you've been killing the game when i look on the internet i could i could find you uh on here man and you see so when you when you was in prison man let's go back to that for a second because you hadn't been locked up now for a long time right man since i've been by uh the grace of god i've been home uh since uh 1995 i went to the feds for a year on a fair to communicate and after that i've been i've been out by 26 years and that's the part what i think people don't understand you've been out for 26 years you out here maintaining you know what i mean i think that's something to apply you know what i mean because you before that you was were you in and out before that mm-hmm and and and so what made you what made you get it right how did you get it right i think that would be some people want to know i mean um i got it what it wasn't that i got it right i just when you get tired of being tired you know it your mother it's about you know your people can pray for you and i can say that i'm gonna get it right and like i said before god see you'll never change a man until he changes his own heart yeah and um when i got to prison when i first came to prison from youth authority i was young marv i was a youngster putting it in and by 95 i was old dude in pops now i'm in prison with dudes that i was in their sons and their grandsons wow and i found out that i had outgrew prison if you know what i'm saying i had an incident one time when i you know when i grew up it was from the first grade to the sixth grade was elementary yeah then you went to junior high school yeah yeah yeah that's it that's it when you was in the sixth grade you was the boss of the school that's right so uh one day i we were getting ready to go to recess and i snatched a ball and my teacher told me marvin put that ball i wanted the ball first i'm no i'm rumbling for he takes me to the principal office go to the principal office mr thompson marvin what's your problem i'm pouting hey so a man since you want to act like a third grader i'm gonna put you in the third grade and he sent me over to miss holmes class in the third grade so when i sat down my knees was touching the punch i was too big right and if you're talking miss holmes and hit you with a ruler and i got i was going home and all the kids are telling hey your brother's in the third grade like and it was just a torturing week of me all right man i'm out of place here so after 25 years in prison my knees start touching the bench wow and it was time to go you know that's all right uh a man told me one time one of the first black business owners of uh count it on on the main stone count the boulevard named uh ronald xm uh he had xm styles back in the 60 well 69 68 69 then he got a clothing store like y'all but it was the first black entrepreneur on counten boulevard before white flight right and he told me he said man you're going there i was about 15 told me you're going in out of june man you're going there you need to learn a trade get you something that you have to do something for because if you ain't made it by time you 40 you need to shoot yourself in the head i couldn't imagine that in 15 right and it came to pass that my sister had gotten killed in 1982 and the guy that was accused his brother was in the same prison with me and me and my crew was getting ready to go handle that little bit of business and a brother that i was in the nation of islam was from the 60s brother you said man hold up bro we got enough he said why don't you do ramadan with us so he said man you know if you want to kill him today you can kill him in 30 days makes sense to me so he's going nowhere so so this is the spot i went in did the ramadan and i'm doing ramadan and listen the nation of islam and the bilanians and new muslim and we didn't have nothing to do with them we used to call them abadabas and soft muslims steal smoking cigarettes and eating hog and doing five prayers a day i think you got no discipline right so i went in there but it's every day we do a 30th of the quran and we're reading the quran and and surah 62 it says that a woman suckles a child for 36 months and a man achieves manhood at age 40 so the same thing you did at 20 you don't do it 40 you start looking both ways huh your thing ain't as quick as it was when you were 17 18 you ain't popping it like you was so if you're in prison at 40 what the hell you going home for in san quen they got what calls citizens row west block everybody over 25 30 years the old men is over there old men for council young men for war and she knows elm hall all the handicaps and the old people dudes like bob wells he was at the time i was in prison he did one of the longest times he did 42 years and he's have a cane and be cussing like a sailor right so i'm just saying when you get to a certain point in your life you start living a different life if you're a man of any virtue you some people try to live their 16 year olds as as a 60 you know right why you try to act young i don't act young i just be dying with who i am yeah i wanted to ask you i seen somewhere where you you knew aliyah's uncle oh yeah yeah i work black black brown records i work for barry hankerson i work for black brown records and you wouldn't when aliyah died you was with the uncle or you yeah i was with him yeah explain to me how that how that was when he when he got the when uh after aliyah passed and the uh the insurance uh paid the uh insurance policy and uh so i was doing a personal with barry at the time okay so i was his personal security when he uh got the uh got the settlement and uh he kicked back and his her mother had got a settlement too she was i think she was in new york or i think she was in new york at the time you know so he uh got about 90 million dollars for her death wow you know for royalties and stuff like that wow so yeah yeah and and it had but it but it still was just just had to be tough on because that was so sudden i remember that plane it i guess they said it was overloaded overloaded overloaded and and it caused that plane to go down right it didn't even hardly make it away from where they were you know where they was at right yeah it was i don't remember what i know they was out of the country and the and the and the Bahamas and the Bahamas yeah man i was and she had such a bright future but she did board in a lot of people ever doing a lifetime even when the time she was here yeah she was amazing she was amazing she did movies she did all kind of stuff i'm a big fan i love to go back and see her movies you know like when they come on i'll watch them we uh we were at the hotel nico when biggie them came when i was with her tonight the biggie got killed really yeah we were supposed to be going to the peterson hotel over to the peterson museum and uh she was upstairs getting dressed uh genuine and um missy was in the um was was in the limo and i went up to get her and captain shahid called and told me man don't come over here biggie just got shot wow you know and we had just saw him earth and the atmosphere was like man and do not come to cali do not come when we saw him pull he pulled up by two o'clock he jumped out of the limo him and puffy and jumped out the limo he had on a white walking suit and a white mink coat he jumped out smiling captain shahid walked up to captain shahid the captain of the west coast uh of the nation of islam and uh cap walked up and asked biggie biggie you need any help biggie tell me and these two are detectives la detecting like shahid Muhammad yeah we got this you know uh don't worry about it but if you look at it russell simons biggie spike lee uh death row records as long as the nation of islam was on detail we didn't lose one wow when they thought they were bigger than the nation they start falling on wow i was with park when he was doing gridlock and uh shahid brought in reggie and his crew and not two months later he was dead wow that's crazy i see where you uh was fighting the crypts to protect brandon ray jay is that a real thing yeah yeah well that's that's that's how we started that's how i started off or that's how i got my first job we were down at rusco's chicken and waffle okay brayer and uh uh pico and the brayer and the manfield crypts was pushing up on brandy them and they came in like hey man these dudes in there uh messing with uh with brandy and we go inside and go outside it's like four five of us and all these little dudes and we squabbling this dude hakeem like man we're working for five dollars and fifty seven he said me you want a real job he said me you know shahid mama like yeah he said we're called cap he called shahid the next thing i know i was doing set it off but how did you how did you even know that was brandy and ray and ray jay how did you know every weekend so and they just decided to press him why would they press them paying rent you and i know and so y'all y'all had a connection with you had a connection with brandy and no i didn't know him for a little counterpain you were just helping them out no i was doing my job i was doing security well so when they were pressing them they came told y'all yeah you know man he dudes in here up on brandy them we just made bro y'all got to leave man we just saw a little we ain't going no oh yeah you gone how did you end up being security over there though because i didn't want to rob banks bro he has a plan for the job and got a job no cap shahid got me the job i tell you cap shahid been amazed man i've seen that i got out of prison in 1995 september 1995 he put me together took me to the million man march i was at the million man i was in dc wow i was in dc and i came and i vowed to god when i was in prison if i have to change co-tex machines or baby diapers i would not commit another crime and i will used to ride my mother's house on elm street is maybe 15 miles from pico and labrea you know i'm on uh rose crying into white i used to ride a beach cruiser every day to work i was so determined and dudes would see me and like hey marv man hooked me up with some people in detroit i'll give you 20 000 i'm often gave up they laughed at me but i was determined and i was broke i was broke but i was determined that whatever i did i was not going to commit a crime man that's heavy and i hear one day i fell weak one of my partners told me they had this inside job of this uh insurance company and they had $50 000 in there and that man all he wanted me to do was he didn't trust the other dudes just wanted me to go just ride with me and the contamination and i'm like all right man i'll be there and when he came it was 12 50 prayer time and i went outside and i looked and i said man hold it i'll be right back and i went in and did prayer and when i come back they was gone i'm like fuck i missed out on this money i look bad as hell four o'clock the ass was on eyewitness news and prayer saved prayer saved praying for god prayer for you that's real you know what i'm saying that's real you do it and you do it properly to keep you out of situations it showed you showed your priority at that time as much as you didn't realize that it was it showed your priority because a lot of people would have been like man i'll pray when i come back right but you showed your priority that you put that first over that yeah you have to you that was the only thing about me why my i never loved anything and i had to realize i love my mother and that's what they call unconditional love and i thought she would be our we've contaminated my mother's life so much going in and out of juvenile hall going in out of took so much out of her life she wasn't the same person and i felt like i old and i tried everyone i got in the prison i took my mother to a y everything i took my mother more places i took my girlfriend because they didn't come into penitentiaries and sit up with me for hours or come and press the prison when i'm in the whole i just want to talk to him she was dedicated to me and so when people you know you i tell people a old man told me this in prison love is two fools feeling sorry for each other you know i'm sad so it's not about how much you love me how much you care about me wow when i look at you to you it's a caring you care about his feelings he care about yours love they say love is blind when somebody tell you oh if you were somebody else i'll kill you you gotta be a fool wow if you care if you love me enough if i'm with somebody better you should be happy about it right i gotta ask you about uh i seen one deal where you um 700 000 that chug night paid to start death row east about 700 000 yeah yeah how did you cut he wasted it wasted it because it never opened up was wide how do you how do you spend that much when you got it you're spending 147 million dollars so he just he just wasted it so then he spent another like 400 000 trying to open up in itlana and you just sit back and see these ventures he's just trying to do these things and they're not worth ego ego pride before destruction wow just see where he's at now man because he he his whole legacy is gone the money's gone death row it changed changed hands um did you see this coming when you was a young man when you was younger when you was dealing with him because you was dealing with him at their peak i would never deal shahid was still shahid but you were you would never make a dime with with you yeah not a penny with death row they just from counter yeah i see a lot of my homies work with him and them go but the rise and fall he tried to do too much for people that wouldn't do anything for him you know he had bad advisement when you don't have good advisement it it'll destroy you yeah he he basically had a deal where it was a lot of people that was in fear when it came down to uh him when it came to i was at i remember i was at a casino one night i don't know if it was in fear but i do know they start whispering a lot when he came in like right and i don't know what they were whispering about it was whispering about here come because they land to keep up a gang of confusion so they bring in hood dudes what he shouldn't even be just they burn oh a blood this and blood no this is a business atmosphere when after because you was dealing with him when you were with uh would say i see shahid shahid shahid Muhammad okay shahid Muhammad after you were dealing with after you had dealt with him where there time when because over the years he was out and walking around and doing things and the power was going yeah where you still you stayed in that's how um see uh uh yosemite sam talked about was with death death row was over about time he 2003 it was no death row that's right it was just a blemish he wasn't in death row when 96 95 in the 90s when he was there he was brought on by reggie right so this is per coin my dudes all of them is short so i mean sugar is damn it seven foot tall over with these little bitty guys you know so yeah i was with him the day that he ran over terry the accident with you know with him and bone and terry that i was i was there you know what was that like though he just ran over terry no it was an accident terry was trying to help him it was it was an unfortunate accident but everything was against you wow he had to go while america said thumbs down on him and he didn't have the the acumen he didn't have the common sense to lay low yeah and sometimes you just got to lay low let things just go over well what and just bring me up to date on the story like when he ran over terry was it that he was trying to stop him from going somewhere what was it about no he uh he got into a situation with bone him and this dude bone got into a situation and uh she was in fear of his life and he backed this car backed his truck up when he backed his truck up terry jumped out the car to help him and when she was seeing something that shook him he put the car in drive and came and terry ran trying and slipped and fell and went up under the car damn and he ran over the top of him he didn't never see never saw terry wow it was never intentional but he didn't use the advice that it should have been he should have snitched so he should have snitched but he here is he really out of gang member he's trying to keep it 100 wait wait wait you say he's really not a gang member no he's not a gang member so he wasn't a blood he was he was from he was from the mob but he's not a mob gang member explain that to a person who don't know just like brother said that he's from the neighborhood but he ain't in the neighborhood he's not out of the neighborhood she grew up in in the mob hung out with dudes went to linwood high school went to college played football came back started doing security he never was an active gang member but did he he used to wear red all the time and and he portrayed that portrayed the image okay and your point is he on death row that was an image uh didn't you think of shield night do you think of him as a gang member of him but that's an illusion when you think of of charlie what do you think of him so he started off as one thing now when he got exposed he embraced being a snitch first he said he ain't never told anybody can give any paperwork on him he'd given 25 thousand dollars he ain't gave up the money yet huh so when when when he had been when it came out he embraced a brother just told me the other day that he just was on a podcast saying this year he had 52 people arrested well you know since then he got a dwi huh he got a dwi since then one of the guys came over and told it he fell asleep at leaving the strip club and got a dwi okay so he you know i don't know if he's working with him or not anymore he's still just still working with if you turn do you think turning in a nigger in a dwi balance one one nigger take away 10 dwi did you see the other day he put a gun on somebody in the interview somebody just told me that today no he did yeah that's what they say he ain't shot it though he didn't be pulling guns you understand me uh but he having a gun and shoot one is two different incidents so i and i just want to right now we're uh this is uh Melvin and Ayat i told him marv i told him marv we're uh we we're still on um antoine the antoine do little uh this brother been you know it's 57 years old been down since he was 15 years old okay everybody got all these campaigns charlie said he was gonna stay in prison and tell you the um michael levy's sister in 2003 says she forgave this brother that she had no problem and he's still in prison so the things that's going on uh we're trying to get uh a fund together get together we've we've had some attorneys that said i don't know if they're scared of charlie is scared of white america but they all fall so we're trying to get together we got 25 000 and if everybody on that get with balls talk can donate one dollar uh we can get a legitimate attorney uh uh from houston texas to to do something this all kind of allegation they uh the man that shot uh ronald reagan he's free this man shot the president and six months later he was getting home visits but he's a white man so we got this brother 15 years old his his mind ability wasn't that of he lived in uh under siege and he wasn't thinking the same so here you didn't took this dude's life and 42 years he's been locked up for 42 years wow and uh all of we we give him money to march the dimes i'm asking man just donate one dollar if you donate one dollar we can get our attorney what enough of us and we need this pulled together i know texas is better than that for they are i know that's right you know uh you spend a dollar just don't smoke a blunt today you know send us something and help us to uh get a legal defense freedom is not free we have to pay for freedom so this is the uh uh melvin i told them are uh legal legal uh legal aids and anybody that has any uh legal questions or legal situations we can help we can we we do dynamic job california whatever you say we about it body when they come to that law we about it we we move you know i i listen to i say i i do listen to some podcast okay oh my goodness i just lied on myself and i'm listening to some of these boys out of texas and they did these 25 and 30 years but and all they're talking about they dp'd another brother but they've never slain a clueless clan member or killed a guard a dude told me other day he was like man yeah i just did 30 years in prison and i asked him i said well how many times did you have otc on your on your door he said well what's otc out to court so you stayed in prison 30 years and didn't do nothing wow 30 years you ain't stabbed man white boy you ain't checked to mexican but you say what you've done to a crypt for blood i don't got all my ibs on somebody else man all i did is shoe time mcu time otc out the court i don't i don't go to prison to work i go for punishment if i wanted to work i'd have been on get me a job at the jack in the box man i tell you man uh so he been locked up all really that's a long time that's a lot of his whole life from 15 all he know is boys that's all he know you know so do we want to just rob and just let this go for somebody that was influenced in something that did something that nobody else would do wow that's you right i mean you i can't do them but agree with you you know uh and we got a lot of brothers like this but he's on our radar right now from california and i'm just asking out for texas to give us man that brother don't need to just be in prison just because another man comes every year and said they don't want him out wow but the same person like i said he ain't said nothing to jerry jones the dallas cowboy owner that said we wouldn't let no niggas come in this house so i made a mistake and i it was a bad judgment so you think that you feel any different from blocks when you was 15 and you do at 70 that's real that's real um i was gonna ask you about um dj quick you knew dj quick yeah um how did you meet dj quick are did you know how do you know him he's from treetops he's from compton okay i know everybody in count everybody every that's anybody so what's the population in compton the population is uh 197 000 and you know 197 000 people i don't count mexicans how many how many black people are in in compton about you probably 76 000 and you know all 76 all 76 that is what i i mean because i gotta ask you this time you may he might have told me or he might have not have told me but just like coming up you from compton um when you first come up how do you how did the blood how did the the pyros i ain't gonna say the blood the pyros how does that start it started uh i was in person when actually we for compton is a different place okay the 10 square miles we're all like we're all together different than la a long beach and it's just us against everybody okay and um pyros started it defending themselves from uh outside it's coming in the groups were coming in taking over neighborhoods and and uh seven brothers stood up like now you ain't coming pyro street is one of the they have more boys on their street than like any neighborhood that street is just compton all of this the uh you had the uh the born family mickey blue he was the he's kind of like the godfather in my eye uh he was a bank robber back in the 60s okay those were the original pyro boys um mickey born liney hall clans grandie and victor murphy you know and you were in prison no no this is the 60s okay this is the 60s okay i said this this is the dudes i come up you came up under okay those were they was real bank robbers okay they they was real they was real and they lived on pyro street they stayed on pyro okay i got you i stayed on elm street we used to come over and play football against them okay my neighborhood was treetops at that time okay you know said and our neighborhood would come play the pyro boys because they had a street they had they had the nelson family the lennard family puddin's family puddin's but that was before puddin they moved over there though the johnson's and they had a whole football team on the street you know so we used to come and play with them and one day it's about 63 mickey blue it's first time i've seen him and this is terry born this is his older brother okay terry born that um and we we plan to come up in a brand new catalog and that's mickey blue he jumps out the car with a shark skin suit on got his hair in a marsail long toe shoes and he'd go up in the house he comes out we're looking comes out of the house when he comes out of the house he comes out he says hey y'all come here and he got a big old bag about and he dumps a hole you know what a bow doll is yeah a big bum tied a gang of silver dollars and we y'all get him and we're putting money money in our pockets right yeah and he opens a trunk of a catalog you know the catalog got a big old trunk he opens the trunk of a catalog and he got a suitcase big old suitcase and he opens it up and it's all hundred dollar bills in there man little faces yeah little face yes and we miss boy mickey you stop giving all them kids that money y'all like them boys long and i say i want to be just like him when i grow man i want to be like him so then this harrell terry terry born him and jerry nelson they knocked off the first armored car truck in california in 1968 and got $180,000 was one of the biggest licks ever at that time wow then his brother denis they robbed capital bank they the boys was bank robbers then that's pyro's and then i and that's how the pyro and they just stuck together and just they just got a clothes tight and when the crypts came in and he wasn't having it this is pyro street this don't be done don't play that game so they start calling pyro's call them roosters roosters are red okay these are some of the roosters and next day was bloods and bam and now it's history so the okay so pyro's became roosters and then they start calling everything else bloods well the blood started five nine brems was the first blood set okay so pyro came before bloods uh pyro came first no no no in gang banging bloods in the la crypts then bloods then pyro's okay man that's wild but it started a long time ago we've been gang banging every so what and the red the red come from the rooster that's what made y'all wear red right because it didn't affiliate with the bloods right off it was just the red from the roosters right wow i didn't know that that's hard that's history i'm just i'm going down through there so you come home so you automatically won you you automatically when you come home uh i get home in 1976 and uh i got uh when i was in prison all of my home is my older homies would be jeff black gorilla family okay so when i get the sanguine i fall in line you understand but i found is the contamination of uh politics instead of i believed in a revolution that would never have you i was old man named death row jeff told me man i don't know why you in here killing your mama come see you every month he's saying that the things he said ain't but two things they fighting for in this penitentiary drugs and homosexuals you don't mess with drugs and you don't mess with sagoonies why are you killing and i thought about it he's old mr jefferson if you ever look at the patty her story you'll hear him say if it's one it's one man that you can go to and if you ever want to see your daughter again he's the man and death row jeff they say if mr jefferson say he's gonna kill you just throw dirt over yourself he's out of baker's field out of cottonwood row said 1942 he was in he was on his way to hollywood wow when 18 years old on his way to hollywood and he killed some migrant farmers and he went to prison and he never in he never made it to hollywood never made and he said they never they thought he wouldn't kill he he here he stabbed this dude named uh chic thomas and chic went and told on him and and they and they and when he went to the warden's office promising paul nelson and paul asked him why he's why he stabbed chic and he jumped over the table and stabbed him stabbed the warden with a number two pencil wow went that's a death row jeff's he was on death row three times he was old he gave me he's one of the perpetrators that got me out of prison you know like this this picture of this guy right here this is rachel magie he's but he's the only i think he is probably the only a number in prison right now wow when george jackson's brother jonathan jackson you ever you ever heard of jonathan jackson uh jonathan jackson was george johnnie him and angela davis is in in a courthouse in marin county and jonathan was 17 years old and he tried to free his brother but george didn't come to court that day and he pulled a gun on the judge they killed a judge shot the prosecutor killed no they took him in a jeep and it was over 2000 bullets shot and they shot rachel magie 33 times shot him 33 times and they thought he was dead and the paramedics came and fine and they zipped locked him like he was dead and took him to the hospital because if we tell them they are these guards are gonna kill him and he's been in adjustment center in the hole since 1966 wow this was rachel magie when they did the boat ride in 1975 and they gave everybody determinist sense and the board of prison terms in california say two men will never let an imprisoned population is hugo pernell and rachel magie you know wow and hugo got killed about two years ago and uh rachel is still about 86 years old got busted in 1962 i gotta go back on something i just pulled you some things you hear and you see and you were like is this really true did bible brown really try to throw usher off of a balcony yeah not you don't not throw it about this yeah i broke my i got my finger broken uh usher came and we was up on this balcony i was i was doing security for for bobby at the time and we were in this club and we was up on this up on this balcony usher was performing so usher came in all enthusiastic and just he grabbed bob and like man i man i idolize you brun i would do but and he grabbed bobby around the neck and was like choking him right and bobby picked him up picked him up and tried to push him over the balcony we grabbed him uh uh usher's bodyguard grabbed bob i grabbed the bodyguard when i grabbed the bodyguard my pinky finger goes in his lapel captain shahid then grabbed and this dude is dragging me and broke my finger that's why this rain won't come off he broke it yeah he broke my finger no cut that ring off huh you could have cut that ring off if you why would i cut it off this is a sensation this is why why would i do that so but that's that basically so and i they they know each other that was the first time meeting that was the first it was his first time i bobby didn't know and bobby you know i guess and dude was just energetic bobby was in another kind of mood and he's like man this dude was just choking me he was grabbing all in and bob just picked him up and like what the hell is you doing like this dude's still holding on i'm like man let this dude go we was like grabbing and this and this and that and just got the squabbling and got my finger caught broke my finger man i was so mad what was it said in l in l in l in hollywood in hollywood club in hollywood yeah they ever started out and actually bobby and usher talked after that huh did bobby and usher ever talk about it after that i i don't not that i know of not while i was on detail what he you know yeah that's crazy what about nick kennan did he really want to be a pyro or that just kept man uh terry carter the one that that uh the shoe ran over right terry called me and knob one day and like man look um uh my people down here with nick nicks out of san diego yeah skyline pyro was in this and that and said uh he wanted to be put on man i want y'all to come something like he put on i said what the hell i said man i'm not i can't understand a millionaire wanting to get to be a gangbanger that's reverse psychology you understand me like i said when i got out of prison i got what like i said bgf was selling harron and doing different that was against my my order like that ain't what i'm i'm built for it just wasn't my lane and when i start dealing with these dudes they would sell an angel dust and it's like man this this here's my product i could deal with this you know what i'm saying so i got into it on an economical this is what fruit town was doing cherry street was the i made my first hundred thousand dollars on cherry street like i say i grew up on elm and all our streets are named after trees so i was a treetop since 1959 when i come home my brother them had changed it to cedar block they went cedar block is a dead end street i don't deal with dead end streets or alleys i deal with a town or universe or a side so i start associating with fruit town because that's where i was selling drugs at we did everything in front of granny house gay gay and and and um um what's his name they called him big now little um i came with the rest in peace but yeah that was that was the premier street and people all over the united states would come to cherry street to buy pcp and i sit up one day and i was like damn because if i go to englewood to pick up some drugs you gotta give me a deal because police for me to get back to counting my life in jerry so if a guy comes to california and buys some pcp we sell it at that time we were selling it 10 000 15 000 new 10 8 000 if it was a homie dudes was coming out of state from texas from uh new york paying 15 000 a gallon buying in five and six gallons i'm like dang if they buy in it like that you got to double your money uh-huh so let me find out how they was how they doing it so my first stop was houston texas you understand me yell and tit well yell for yellow farmers lines and farmer fifth war scott and cullin third war keeping the crime rate up find out they was going 25 000 a gallon here 30 000 a gallon in new york 45 000 a gallon in dc so why should i sell it i just posted up in houston and just made my money wow i think i think the thing i i sell about you man every time you you it's just like i told a boy earlier you know the the guy that was here you know it's like certain ones you can't just interview one time man that's and and you just basically got i know already there's so many stories you can't get them i've been trying to get them all like i but i'm coming i'm coming in la too though it's gonna take everybody take a whole month to get something out of you well no he's gonna keep thinking of stuff he's gonna keep thinking of stuff that happened yeah i got this my mother told me in seven that you need to write a book i still got too many things it's unanswered man so did you ever know uh did you ever meet tuckey williams when he was living yeah yeah uh man i was in seven i'll tell you man i was i i've been i was locked up with some of the most violent criminals in california history um how was it being locked you locked up with tuckey right and we was in 1750 in the county jail two years together we went to sandcourt and together when they gave him the death penalty we went to the same court in torrance court angela bono the hillside strangler had multiple white murders the skid rose slasher bobby jill max will kill 33 people like i say um doc holliday the leader of the bgf you know um jan brewer kevin golf steven sweater um uh kubikovich the alphabet bomber uh i was on a daily with them every day so took it so how was tuckey willing with did y'all talk or did y'all wouldn't i man i let me show you what i took he learned how to draw in 1750 he didn't even know he had this talent wow this white boy david johnson taught him how to draw and he said back in cell 24 and with nothing else to do one day we were uh we're going to to the roof we were going to the roof and um the guards came and to get us to the uh take us to the roof and it was some usually the 1750 they got a regular police on there so these other sheriffs came down and so this one little mexican police he uh like had an edge for for tooki right so uh he like uh williams getting lying tooki had a a a tile around his neck you know so when he go work out upstairs so the the police tell him like uh uh williams take that tile from around your neck so he said man i'm usually when i go upstairs he said man i said take so tooki take the tile off and throw it on the floor so the police tell man pick it up i said take it off we took it like man what he said man no you ain't going to the yard take it down so i said take it down so i said if he take it down we all taking it down so like what i said man we're locking up ain't nobody taking it down we ain't going to the yard so doc dem said okay so we are 24 of us we are going back police pull and push me to the side push me to the side lock everybody down tell me to cut my fingernails it's been out cuddling like he said no cut him now the same little mexican right he said cut him now so i'm like now so now they got me handcuffed from behind so here's williams you ain't gonna cut him so he said i'll cut him for you i said but no man look okay i understand what you're saying sir i'll cut him he unhand cuff one hand cuff i elbowed him cracked him right got the ray ray brianon grabbed him on the leg from his cell and took him to the ground and the police they broke two of my ribs but that was my my shot with toky at the time wow man that's crazy man because at the end of the day you wouldn't you wouldn't know that well i guess you could because you guys go back so far and being in uh in the in the system you know being in the county or going to sank when you had to run into each other you know doing time you know yeah we did some we did some time in the 1991 gang truce uh took he was on death row and he was uh they had him via uh telecast and he like man marvin kids are there so it's a man mar this man ice man this shit then went crazy bro he said you know what i never thought i would never imagine my in my mind pyru was even fighting it wasn't enough of us to fight each other at a time in jail and for us to kill each other he said man if i had a known krippen would have turned out like this when i started he said man i would kill myself i never intended for this to happen so he never wanted to see krippen go the way that it went man i mean when you are part of something and it go bad and you sitting there and you looking at mass murder under a banner that you prolissified that you pushed hard and people taking it out your name and they're doing something else with that's heartbreaking yeah because it would never mean it would you never meant for that never man we had pyru love i look at this dudes it's so sad dude tell me you're gonna a pyru put the contract on another pyru and dudes is like allowing it they ain't gonna kill me but they might that's why i've been laying low for money money to cut change a lot of minds yeah you know what i'm saying so i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna show you what this bag gonna do so i gotta be i'm no fool no siri i'm gonna live to be 103 i'll play safe for you and me i gotta ask you one more thing before i get you out come and get you out of here um so you told me that she'll ignite wasn't a member of a gang but you've seen two pockets well with him so they would say mob i thought it was member of the bloods money over bitches i thought about that too that's money over bitches m o b is not uh more more our bloods mob is pyru's okay so so cuz tupac never did you and you met tupac and you met where'd you where's your first time me tupac at at uh on on the set of gridlock okay did you ever meet him in the neighborhoods or he never was like i said i wasn't hanging out with them like that yeah you sound like me when you're older you really i that wasn't i was active but i wouldn't i'm not a fan yeah yeah you and i've always been my own individual i i have my own private parties i don't go along to get along you and you say that and i definitely get it so was he hard to uh to to to secure no park was all that when he went to mob would he would own it's an act but this dude state when he ain't on the movie set he's in the dictionary reading he's writing he's reading poems he's reading uh uh uh cahill cabrons he's reading uh uh checa vera this what this dude is doing daily hey i can you go get me this book can you go get me that this is what his life wasn't just partying and you know that's the persona that you see the small part that you see his life was bigger than that you know uh it's an act yeah i don't think charlie i could like that all the time no he might no he don't jimmy the cricket might no he doesn't but at the end of the day i just thought it would be is something else talk because you dealt with uh mike tyson as well just securing these premises for these the best detail i don't have mike is a genuine brother i mean he's a given a good hearted i mean this dude is 100 for his people wow 100 and to show you how mind over matter when it started going bad for him and white america filed out with don king and they was trying to slam the right and he got he laid down for two years guys you could hear nothing for about mike went over to italy started doing a show in italy and america ain't gonna let nobody out do them come on back mike you're a good nigga just stay in your place wow mike tyson they they portrayed him at first like he was an intelligent but then now you hear uh especially with his podcast and everything just he's brilliant like yeah you know so you want every boxer's a thug low mentality low IQ we don't go to prison just to be dumb a lot of them do yeah you know what i'm saying they say if you want to keep something from a black put it in a book yeah yeah i want this is why the prison system start changing and they got videos and they got dudes in prison don't read anymore give them cell phone that cell phone is a setup you think you can hide something in a cell you can find them easy so but everybody have it then because they're tracking your calls yeah and oh blood what's happening all this calls are monitored and when they get all the phone numbers they have a sweep and take all the phones wow yeah yeah but like i said i just appreciate you for coming on the show man um i know already me and you we always talk so thank you always for taking my call respecting us man and coming down and blessing us man because you you call me you came man you always going to be a part of what we do forever i appreciate you know right before balls talked to nobody no more you never fuck about me i go through the street now and i know man i was my first little i was paranoid like who i owe money to people looking at me like man yeah i've seen you somewhere it's this old lady about a month ago this old lady say oh i know you i said you do i ain't you that boy i said what boy you own that social media star what you're doing watch i mean and that's the that's the beauty of it though but i think you guys your stories man you got something to say that helps it's a lot of brother like i told it other guy that moves interviewing earlier and i what's his name again the guy kevin kevin kevin muffin yeah and just the stories when you've been through so much you know what i mean this can help our people i know that they look at your story and they they can relate to it most people like you said they might not read a book but they'll show watch a youtube that's what i didn't know it was that big you see what i'm saying and that's what i knew that's i want uh my partner tony hustle i give a shout out to shout out to tony hustle big hustle out of new jersey out of new jersey boss talk one oh one hollering at you one of brothers that's sexy freaky electric hey and he like marv you're a star and i'm like man you got four million people that looked at what i couldn't i can't see i don't look at myself as a big guy yeah you know what i'm saying i'm just man these dudes around here holding their nuts on you they watching the podcast and i have more crisps than bloods come to me wow oh gee man i've seen your part i'm from the other side and it's like but now dudes right around me they're not gonna turn their head what up mar yeah they saw they're watching they watch they know more they holding their nuts on you yeah but i mean okay it's all good but it's just like it's like just tell the truth you know uh my truth it ain't to me it ain't no such thing as my truth it's the truth yeah yeah you understand me my truth may be a lie that's an illusion yeah that's my story yeah you know i'm saying so uh yeah we try to try to put it out on a real pretense and i don't try to make myself look i survived everything i survived from from being scary man and i was so scared that i'll kill everybody on the planet so i won't be scared no more wow it's just critical tell people this it's easy to say these things like i'll kill you yeah but to do the act to perform the act it changes your life wow god takes something from you that you'll never get again wow you do you know i get it so when people say that it's so many dudes right now young 20 that didn't done that and they didn't they're plum crazy in prison yeah never a lot of that and they they didn't know no better they didn't do any better and it haunts you wow it haunts you wow man that's the only thing i pledge to do look at it before when but you thank you pulling that trigger man it's it's it ain't all about that man hey man thank you for coming on the show we love you hey mar we love you man man for sure say man shout out to me man help us Melvin at iat i told them all gangsta yeah legal and it's dollar sign gangster legal dollar sign and that's on cash app right on cash out have anybody been sending you all money out of dying well i just i just brought it out to y'all okay because we uh we have some attorneys in in houston these black attorneys that was gun hold for it white america or charlie didn't scared them off man and nothing we can change money changes everything so uh we're putting up 25 000 i got attorneys say for 75 000 near frame and if each of us put up a dollar y'all got 50 000 people yeah got one dollar you can spare one dollar to free somebody yeah you know what i'm saying so that that's all i'm asking just for a little help from texas yeah you know and and and that's what we want to do because i mean i don't care what antoine did at 15 he should he still be held accountable for it at 57 we don't do white america like that so let's just start doing for each other like we said this how we change it right tell me the story again about this guy antoine david antoine dulu is is is uh charlston white's crime partner that charlston white testified against in the the uh uh burglary of some uh bomber jackets and end up a man by the name of michael levy end up losing his life and first charlston white claimed he did the i did this and i did that i killed a white man and when we got the testimony he testified against antoine dulittle and sent him to prison sent him to prison for a life sentence so we're not saying that he didn't do what he did but we're looking for uh diminished compassion and an insanity that this brother wasn't even writing his mind as a young black black child to be sent to a man's prison for 42 years wow man thank you for coming on the show hey man hey hey that eight make sure you guys like and subscribe man but that that's a hey that's ayatollah marv man uh hey y'all seen it again man and we you're gonna see him some more man check it check it man it's been another great segment of boss song 101 where the bosses talk and we out