oing to get into the nuts and bolts but I've been saying it for 20 years almost and I'm getting tired of the sound of my own voice in this but I mean it's wrong on every level Greg that you know the fishermen always seem to be at the bottom of the chain it's kind of interesting because I am on I am on the marine website and just looking at the dozens and dozens of boats that are fishing off the coast and there's a massive range of them and the only one that's actually identifiable is one that's fishing out of Kili Bags all the rest are there's no way of tracking them I'm sure those in the business probably know how to track them but the majority of them have no idea at all just for the regular use like myself except two that are out of Kili Bags which is which is really quite bizarre but anyway okay I just you see the thing is is though Jerry and I was having this conversation with someone who works in this industry very very frustrated sitting when they can't be making money no life in the summer because they're out at sea for every hour that God sends and when this when this next generation that would have followed their parents into this business when that chain's broken it's like when you fight in a fire you know you cut trees down to fight the fire sometimes to stop the fire spreading and it just feels that unless something changes really really quick if it's not too late already that the fire break has been put in there and there is actually no it's a it's a sunset industry there is no one left to continue the tradition of of inshore fishing yeah and I mean Greg it's a breaking point and it has been going down and going down and going down but I mean I mean yesterday what happened this young man you know who invested vast amount of money to to stay in the industry and and you know got a lovely boat and got loads of gear and tried to just make a living for himself you know it's nothing more nothing less than that Greg and to see his his livelihoods taken away from him you know and one fell sweep because again you know did he have to be out you know he absolutely did have to be out and it's it's just look at I think that that all supports that that are forthcoming you know that should be should be made available to this young man and this family you know proud proud island men that that you know I know today that they're thankful they're alive but I mean at the end of the day Greg their livelihood is is lying in a rock doing on his man you know and that that's look at that talk for us all you know in design it's just difficult to see and I'm not conflating clicking on these boats and the ones that have flags they're Norwegian flags or Icelandic flags or whatever and here we are it's so so frustrating and I'm really glad this topic came up today what I'm not glad is that it came off the back of of that awful situation for that young person thank you very much for that Jerry as always I really do appreciate it Liam hello good morning Greg you're a big advocate for the industry but go on well a Jerry he's like myself he's fashion from an early age grew up with grew up on the coastline with the older fashion men familiarising yourself with what you around around your waters and grow up to see what way the fashion's gone well I would say the unsure fishery is dead on the street you're going to green cast go down the morning and start pressing to see the Mount of Wee boats is there and the price even that that boat was lost the last day there yesterday the day before the night before it was a good job the Coast Guard got them off and fairplayed them and we've seen this and this it didn't end up a tragedy what has happened along the coast for a lot of years and a test of pressure a test of pressure these men have to go out to fish and have to go out and stay out to get there with the markets down all the rest but what I see here even greencastle is a graveyard of wee boats what's going to happen these wee boats they can't afford to keep them especially with oyster fishery and the foil has depleted has depleted and a lot of the fishermen will put it down to poor management we have no voice no no politicians no politicians whatsoever from every party have turned of line idealists they've turned of line I they've turned turned their backness master mcconnell go walk out the pier he'll spend millions on a pier out the pier I will quite honestly we don't see what what the difference of this breakwater we'd call it a dam out the pier it hasn't made the pier any better and mr farne in the town shouting what about the fishing the scene to go past the whole inshore fleet none are harbour and to get about them and there is no young people coming into industry I was on there he said 20 29 I'm not 30 maybe a couple of younger boys at 25 26 that was on this harbour but there is no people come behind they can't afford even to get onto the game because it's too too expensive and even those that are out fishing at the moment even those outfishing at the moment I can't find a boat with an Irish flag I'm going oh I found one it's the old glarry that's the that's the only boat I could actually find yeah that's a boat out of killy begs that's a large vessel he could make in passage yeah that's the only one I could find hello yeah that I'm listening to you know as I say I'm listening intently to you but also clicking through and I've managed just to find one one boat and that was the old glarry out of killy begs as you said but what what is the what is the future then because if you hear the announcement say for killy begs now it's about it feels it's about offshore offshore wind it feels like it's about cruise ships you know the the conversation when we talk about our peers even the green castle breakwater that you talk of yes obviously for the fishing industry but one of the advantages being seen is that it might might make it better for leisure craft and what have you do you know what I mean that's happening right through the course but we know what's what as when they're going to get rid of us when all the don't they call Cody Cody all not not the don't they call Cody Cody Cody all the parties involved with the Donegal Fisheries Board and all the rest as when they're going to get rid of us because they they have about to three miles off the shore now for four shores on their housing and all the rest so as when they're going to when they're going to pull the plug and all of us like the harassed here a border as you seen there this week with the with assembly up and going again with the border we we can't even test tester oysters even the file now can't even go through England because Britain will not accept the test but they're going to Holland you have to go down to the bottom of the country and go through France to come back up through through up through Germany and Holland that there if you want to go to your northern European markets all right Liam listen it is we were a shared island we were a shared island and it's a shared a shared body on the 1952 Floyd Fisheries Act with the two governments but they can share the place in regulation as we have told it we've told it for long enough and our fishery this year the oyster fish this year lasted six weeks that was not sustainable for any small and short boat they used to be a muscle industry here we had a salmon industry we are oyster industry they're slowly depleting us and I would say for any of them down there now I don't see nobody around out here I've seen a book come on as one of the Roger boats coming on with their crew they do their gear on and head back out again from that from that way with the next book comes on the pier as like a ghost pier right Liam listen I'm going to have to leave it there a small and short boat yeah and I'll tail break it and nobody's helping us okay as a culture yeah there's more in it there's more to it there's a bigger conversation we need to have about the future of inshore fishermen and the plight that they have I know there was a a delegation from one organisation that represents inshore fishermen that was down in the shannad last week or the week before I didn't get any notice of that so I've been interested in talking about that but anyway Liam listen thank you for now take care of yourself we're going to be talking history with the man Dr Joe after these the county's number one talk show The Nine Till Noon Show on Highland Radio The Nine Till Noon Show with O'Hara's of Foxford our new Baker 51 authentic sourdough celebrate 72 years of baking now is the perfect time to try it for yourself Farmer Fury forces scape changes for more in your Irish farmers journal His Paul Mooney find out how the department has backtracked them controversial suckler scheme acres payment delays hit 28,000 farmers new eight euro P.O. sheep scheme farmers to be charged for unsold calves and marts fresh blow to future of nitrous derogation the latest from the barn 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publications his books his novels his poetry his dramas the different bits of literature that he had written and it was very much of a socialist mindset talking about the life he was living and the perception he had at that time so look at maybe to begin he's born in 1890 on Christmas Christmas Eve or Christmas day sorry and so that places him in a context of a changing Ireland this is pre-1916 this is pre-independence and look he describes very clearly his depoverty and growing up in Glentease and the difficulties that that entailed and he had a family there was 11 of them in the family his younger brother died when he was when he was 11 or so and he went to school he didn't get much schooling he maybe got you know an odd month here and there he was out Tattie Hogan and he went to Scotland to work as a young man of 15 so life was hard and the hardship there and the challenge so look at that's the background he came from and we do we do get an insight into you know 1890s Glentease through his work throughout his life I well I mean he wrote a number of novels probably the two most famous one would be Children of the Dead End appropriate is that maybe to to the Children of the Days don't he call Children of the Dead End and then he wrote another book called The Rat Pit and you know the protagonist in that book there would somewhat say it was utter about graphical and the sense that he was talking about his own life and how the challenges that he had himself Tattie Hogan going to have to work as a Navi in Scotland and the different challenges Talk to us about because when you mentioned about Tattie Hogan and being a Navi in Scotland obviously you know it's within living memory for a lot of people as well but some people may not be familiar with it at all so what would how would a young person find themselves getting that job how would they get there what would that job and tell what might their life be like in Scotland well first and foremost because of the poverty the family income had to be augmented there wasn't enough finance to be made off your farm so children were hired out to the lagoon that's the first thing and that would take in some income and then the older ones when they'd be 15 or so it was kind of nearly a rite of passage when they were no longer hired out to the lagoon they were sent usually with their father uncles whoever to Scotland and they went out to these farms in Scotland and just worked tattie Hogan gathering potatoes or turnips and it was a hard hard harsh life very hard work long days not necessarily fed the best and it talks about one okay in Scotland about how one of the houses that they were in they looked at a lot of houses little blinds little described how the rain came down through it and the floor was all wet and they had nothing to do but stand there all night in the rain wonders today with their mica houses you know how reflective of that is today's society but he basically talks about that he's a very lucky to work as a navi himself in real life in Scotland a navi would have come from the phrase a navigational engineer someone that would have been working on canals but later that went to roads and trains and such and he anybody that was doing those kind of constructions and he worked on a dam in Scotland the caledonian railway he worked there as well and he worked on the kind of low and dam as well but while he was there he started to write about it was about 1909 when he was about the age of 20 and he wrote a book and actually got it published here and back home in the Derry Journal published it from his first book Greening's from a navi scrapbook in 1910 is it any good have you read it yeah yeah yeah I have and I've read most of his works believe it or not and basically what it was was a series of poems I look I mean the stuff is just it indulges me you know one of his poems going home I'm going back to Glent East when the harvest fields are brown and the autumn sunset lingers on my little Irish town where the gozomer is shining where the moonlands blooms blow I'll take the road across the hill I trampled so long ago it's a far I'm on beyond the sea but yearning voices call will you not come back to Glent East and your wave washed down he got I mean it's lovely but it and it's melodic but it's quite simple too if you know what I mean sometimes sometimes poetry can be quite pretentious but it paints a wonderful picture quite simply with simple language very earthed and very much in with the nature and with his experience and he had the good fortune when he he went round selling these books then when he got printed door to door and there was a newspaper man Neil Moreau that was working for a newspaper in Scotland at the time a journalist he liked the book some way it got into his hands and he published one of his poems in the in the scottish paper and because of that he ended up selling about 8,000 copies so he made a few pounds out of them while he was still working as a Navi as a liberer and one of these people that had read then the book I heard about the book was a canon John Neil Dalton who was actually the private tutor to Queen Victoria's children King George later King George the Fifth Prince George and also to Prince Albert and he heard about Patrick read his stuff and said would you come and work for me helping me translate manuscripts in Windsor Castle and so Patrick initially he went to work in Scotland or not in London after that as a newspaper reporter so what age are we there now sorry I always be fascinated as the age progression here so what age might he have been heading to London as a journalist it was about 21 when he moved to London about that age and worked for the Daily Mail initially but then he got a job as I said with this canon Dalton that was the tutor to Queen at the time and while he was there that's when he started to write The Children of the Dead End and he talked about Glenn Moran which was Glenties basically and it was very much if you read it it's very much describing the life in North West on Ego it could be said of the time and then later on then he followed on with the Rat Pit which was the main man in the Book of the Children of the Dead End the protagonist his Dermot Flynn his wife Sweetheart was sorry Sweetheart was North of Rhine and they had a child outside wedlock and then things went wrong she was ostracised and poverty and then she went into prostitution and death so we're very very controversial maybe at its time but just in relation to the source material Joe did he use his life in Glenties and his experience and his upbringing and the poverty you know as a backdrop to his books or did he use his books to highlight the plight of some people do you know what to mean what what do you get the sense of his motivation was was it I'm not saying it was exploitative but was he using his platform and his abilities as opposed to shine a light on on on the realities for some or what would your read of it be yeah that's a very good question and and I think the answer is he did both I think that he understood his his environment at which he emerged and articulated that in his books but at the same time he had a social conscience which wasn't necessarily an agreement with with the powers that be at the time and like he was ostracised and he was it was condemned from from from the altar so to speak because he was seen as challenging the status quo and I mean he really despised the Gombean men the men that owned the shops that would when people ran out of food spuds and they hadn't any any other foods they would get grain on rent and then there was an interest put on that and the prices were usurped and it became very expensive and and he kind of was annoyed that the Catholic church of the time so to speak sponsored that in the sense that they lay in with the the Gombean men because they were providing them with finance and he often questioned was this what the carpenter of Galilee was about was this what this is and so look that was a very very controversial time and he did challenge the authoritarian church Father McFadden who was from you don't well he was from Carey Gart but he served in your door during the land war and he was jailed on two occasions but he was later appointed to Glenties and he built he built a large house there and he was very critical often about him and smoking potbellied priests smoking cigars and had a lavatory that cost 300 pounds so he was very very critical of Father McFadden yet if you go to Ghidoran Clonili Father McFadden was seen as a hero because he was in jail and standing for the tenants back in the 1890s So more generally then how was his writings received at home was he seen as a you know a hero of the poor always say oh look he's a fast talker now over in London with the big wigs yeah again I wonder I think at some ways because of the social status of the time and the influence of the Gombean men in the church he was a little bit ostracised I would imagine not necessarily purposely by his own community but that's what they were led to believe that this wasn't a good man this was a man that was bringing atheism or maybe bringing a different perspective challenging the status quo and that we couldn't have this now he fought in World War 1 he joined the London Irish and he fought in World War 1 and he got injured and loose in 19th early on in one of the first battles and he was then recruited by MI7B it was a more a propaganda ministry that was there at the time he worked with the author of Onee the Pooh he was working in the famous art of that children's story they were working there promoting propaganda stories to try to encourage the men to continue fighting but he also thank God we don't see thank God that stopped now yeah well I don't think so no comment I think the governments are doing this all the time I know exactly but they saw his ability obviously as a journalist and because he had a few books and they says right you are the man for this job so what happened to him post-war then? well during the war he actually then himself he kept copying his notes and obviously no he wrote books during the war didn't he? yeah yeah you're correct and he uh he was a he was a stretcher bearer first which meant that he was out in the worst place possible because he saw the carnage and the death and the pain and just a horror of it I mean canon care from Fannett who was a wartime chaplain as well a catholic chaplain and he died and got a heart in 1956 and he talked about it being a birth into reality like the realities of war was just horrible and so then he became a rifleman but because of his injury he was obviously he came back to England but he wrote three books The Amateur Army The Red Horizon and my favourite The Great Push and so people would know the poem and you know The Death of the Fairies before I joined the army I lived in Donegal where every night the fairies would hold their carnaval but now I'm mountain flanders where men like wheat tears fall and it's death and not the fairies that's holding carnaval like just so beautiful the carriage of the death but understanding it from the fairies and you know the idea of the carnaval and just in terms of the structure there was not to say I am in no position to criticise his early work and you've only just picked out two examples but there does seem to be a bit of more maturity to his later writings than his earlier writings in terms of you know his attitude to life and his structuring of the sentences well he was basically challenging us you know what was this butchery about you know why has this been done and he tried to use simple simple language it would remind me a little bit of Patrick Cavna in certain ways and you know one thing you have to remember is he didn't get a terrible lot of schooling he didn't get a terrible lot of education maybe you know he said himself a couple of months in a school in Glenties because he was away working tatihoken and hired out so as you know for a man that had been given so little formal education to be able to write the way he did is pretty amazing and maybe should be to all of us that you know education shouldn't limit us or lack of education shouldn't limit us to develop our own educational ability and I think if anything that's that's what he proved but you ask me is later after the war he did come back to Glenties once after the war supposedly and hired out a a pony and trapper went up and down Glenties whether that is true or not to show that he had written to higher levels and that he supposedly was wearing his British army uniform whether that's true or not that's what the local folklore and Glenties would have us told quite the quite the homecoming parade yeah and again you know being seen as here's the man coming back among us that's not one of us and sees things definitely the world we do and again what I what I said earlier on he was challenging the social system of the time in the Gombenism and the clerical control and you know something he was correct in many of the things that he was challenging and we can say that honestly now but maybe at the time that wasn't appreciated or he was part of the dismantling not necessarily that it's a good or bad thing but he was part of and you see that right now in modern life the way what is normal now there are those working to change what is normal now whether that happens or not who is to say so I mean like let's let's fast forward so he's 25-30 now he's living in Donegal and this is you know supposing to some extent go ahead did you want to come in there Joe give me some back to Donegal you want back to no but I'm saying now let's drag him oh yeah sorry let's drag him into 2024 and we can go back if need be but we have to move along like what would he be writing about now what would his poems be about now what what you know material would he be writing about well I mean I think there be a number of things that he'd be saying like who's a new church we've seen the demise of the Catholic authoritarian church and I think anybody would would say that's a welcome thing it says church should have been based on faith not on authority and he challenged the status quo that time but then who's the new church see people made this idea that you know the church has demise and is authoritarianism but that vacuum has to be replaced by some other some other people or some other institutions hierarchy or authority or whatever you want to phrase it and is this the government you know we used to fast on a friday that was the old catholic thing and maybe people we still do sometimes but you know the new church and the Sadducees of our government for example are telling us that we should eat less potions of meat on our on our plate I mean is this the new religion of of of green agenda government I don't know and yet we're told that we're going to have to cull you know 200,000 of our cattle 10 percent of our cattle that's what we're being proposed to and particularly in rural Donegal and particularly given and you can argue the toss about the famine or was it a famine or was it what it was is but food dependency people presume that things can never be they can never happen again that happened in the past we are also moving towards not being actually food dependent self dependence you know and that's that's yeah that and that's a very very if we're going to remove 200,000 cattle from every stock I mean the price of milk is going to go up the price of butter is going to go up the price of everything's going up and that's the ordinary tenant and what I find very strange about that and maybe this is maybe where Patrick McGill might be looking at is last 2022 the number of private jets in Ireland doubled and here all the emphasis is on reducing the herd and not on the I know but but but jets all of aviation only accounts for two to three percent of harmful gases but anyway just that's not the point so it's it's kind of interesting here and I have to choose my words carefully because the character you're portraying of Patrick McGill is actually how some people might see the McGill summer school to some extent there's crossovers there and I don't say that as a negative I've attended many's of time but that that you have all of these Dublin based not exclusively but international people kind of coming into Glenty's and sort of saying how things are and I kind of sort of see McGill if he did return in his uniform and going up if it's kind of some might say as it feels a little bit familiar right that's not a criticism but I'm I'm seeing some some some correlation here but not in a particularly negative way you're slapping me down for that oh no I'm getting you I'm getting you and like you know I I've heard your interviews before after last summer's McGill summer school there were some criticism that politicians were just arriving there and dumping their speech no challenge no room for free play of talk no debate to no knuckling down and really debating the real issues there's been that criticism at them I don't know but I just wonder if Patrick McGill was alive today would he be invited back to his own summer school that's that's that's what's fascinating come here last minute what's his legacy then um I don't know I think one of his legacy is hopefully is that his ability to challenge the status quo at the time that he had the ability in his time to to read his environment in which he was living and we too need to do that and like for example his book children of the dead end how appropriate is that that for us today last year 21,000 Irish young men and women sought Australian holiday and work visas student visas and work visas 21,000 because maybe possibly they can't afford to live in Ireland they're going to go to make money to come back to build a house are those words really profound today are we still living in children of the dead end Donegal of the dead end and and what would he be challenging to make sure that that legacy would would would no longer be what must we do what can we do and you know asking the right questions and then looking for the right answers I think that's what his legacy is and and that's always a duty in all of us you know that there's an article I think it's 9.3 of the Constitution it's a duty of every citizen fidelity to the nation and loyalty to the state and we have a duty towards the citizens of this country to ensure that this isn't the country of the dead end and to make it a lot better than it is all right but he to do that and we're still talking about that you know 140 years later after his birth okay thanks very much as always Dr Joe really appreciated Dr Joe Kelly there The 9 till noon show with O'Hara's of Foxford introducing our new Baker 51 authentic sourdough bread a delicious new addition to the team on business matters this Sunday 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well for children and young people it's an opportunity I suppose for them to kind of talk about any concerns or challenges that they fear around the whole online world develop so this year with the ISPCC internet center we'll be having an event where we'll have loads of young people coming together to teach about tech in our world which is the team that they've picked for this year so that was the panel of our colleagues and our partners in the ISPCC internet center web-wise so the youth panel there they were the ones who set the team for this year if you like so tech in our world and they'll be looking at things around the whole area of generative AI what that means for them but what that means for their future careers and their lives online as well I think it's really important that the conversation is involving teenagers and young people is led by teenagers and young people because in terms of grown-ups influence you know it's a difficult space mom and dad probably it sounds like they don't know what they're on about or you can't talk about something you don't understand and I'm not saying that's the case right or even you and I Fiona to our best will in the world it is a conversation that really has to be had amongst young people as well so that they feel they have influence in this because all most of them will understand the pitfalls and the dangers I think but find themselves falling into them too Oh very much so and so that is the brilliant thing about say for internet day is that it is very much youth led around the world and as you said Greg as well yeah they understand maybe the nuances of the issues maybe sometimes better than adults do and I think what's really impressed us this year with the young people who've set the agenda is just how I suppose in touch there with what exactly is going on but also as well how future focused they are and I think that's really really important and that they're really looking that they realize that you know you know we still talk about the online world and the offline world has been almost two separate places but for them you know both are incredibly enmeshed they are the one and you know they can very much see that you know both lives and both worlds are going to have to coexist and they're going to have to be part of it and I think that's a really good point you make and I think as adults or grown-ups or whatever we have to realize that there is complete integration and it's only going to you know with with the improvements in AI if meta achieve what they want to achieve in terms of augmented reality you know we've seen it through the but anyway the point being is is they aren't really whether people like it or not two separate spaces and the idea that we can tell children that that's the case or younger people I think it's old information and it's not just online based there's work happening within schools we talk of these young people leading these programs a lot happening in schools across next Tuesday as well some students schools have their mocks on but anyway that's besides the point but anyway quite a bit happening in school throughout Tuesday yeah so look web-wise as I said web-wise our partners in the OSA for Internet Center are leading out on the whole area of liaising with the schools getting schools to sign up to share what they're doing for SAFE for Internet Day so we're already looking forward to see what they're doing but yes each year the numbers increase in terms of participation in the day and whilst it is just one day in the calendar you know we're always encouraging as schools children young people themselves to continue the conversation you know for the remainder of the year as well and to build on you know the theme from SAFE for Internet Day but yeah very much and it's a brilliant opportunity I suppose for schools to get involved and web-wise also as well have their SAFE for Internet Day ambassador programme so again you know training or education children and young people then who go back into their schools as well and cascade that learning down if you like among their peers as well yeah and I wasn't earlier on diminishing the important role that parents and guardians and anyone with influence has on young people that is a vital role to run alongside this and you know the basics still are there about you know educating our younger people about safety online making them understand I suppose that you know what might be posted online today is there forever it doesn't really matter about your privacy settings you know the amount of time one spends online is it actually good for you you know a lot of the the basic stuff that we still have to continue to communicate I think oh very much so and if anything last year's day for internet day really showed that to us as well where the young people again they want to relook again at the whole area of cyber bullying so that's something that you know we may think we have solved or we may think we have enough policies in place to address it or enough services but for them it's still very much a live issue so exactly great you know as you said like well they are future focused you know around the whole digital space you know the same issue still very much keep cropping up year on year as well so that's why I guess it's just really important to keep the conversations going they're not one-off conversations so it's really important to keep talking about those issues and I just don't want the status quo to be that you get bullied online all that you get that you have to send images to someone or whatever do you know what I mean I think we have to push back on that and say actually you know any of that stuff is not really acceptable and again we all have a role in that okay is there anywhere we can go to sort of get more information on I suppose web-wise and also about say for internet date like IE you know maybe topics for parents and guardians or information points so that they feel they're speaking with some sort of authority on these issues so first of all I suppose yes web-wise.ie has all the resources for teachers and for children and young people themselves with curriculum aligned to lessons ISPCC has its digital ready hope that parents can log on to and take the quiz and just test their own knowledge and then they'll be linked then referred to other content there that should support their learning and also the National Parents Council at npc.ie have resources but also as well Greg just to say our other partner in the say for internet center is hotline.ie and they will provide a really important function as well of where people can go and report any concerning material that they might have as well. Okay good stuff thanks for all that information we really do appreciate it have a wonderful day and take care of yourself that was Fiona Jennings head of policy and public affairs at the ISPCC and that's another Thursday almost in the bag just to remind you tomorrow Caroline anything in particular between 10 and 11 that I need to mention tomorrow ah I thought so that's why I was asking producer Caroline says Seamus Gunn is going to be on after 10 o'clock tomorrow answering your legal questions it's always a very busy item so get them in now and first come first served is as best as I'll try and do it for you so Seamus Gunn is going to be answering your legal questions tomorrow we also have our Friday panel which is assembling between nine and 10 we'll probably talk about some of the big issues that we've been talking about today I think particularly you know the return scheme the deposit return scheme might get a mention as well should high visby mandatory and that means I can sort of take a lot of the comments that I didn't get to today into that conversation as well and that's not set in stone but it's likely and then of course we're going to easy into the weekend with our that's entertainment item which is just really talking about things TV radio podcast theater cinema and all that type of stuff that's all coming up for you tomorrow I normally rush that so I didn't want to do that there's that other thing that um that other thing Caroline that um readouts that I have I don't have it at the moment I'll tell you what I do I'm going to pay this piece of information just before we go about dementia because it's something we're doing all week in association with the HSC and it's just to make people more aware of dementia 63% of people with dementia live within their community which shows us dementia is not just a health concern but also a social issue that needs a community response we all have our role to play and dementia understand together and the HSC want us all and listeners to understand the importance of staying connected and engaged on the well-being of people with dementia and themselves so we're going to leave you with an interesting important message on this topic have a wonderful Thursday the right to be active citizens in their communities but sometimes they need support to stay connected and engaged it starts with understanding that everyone with dementia has a different experience so talk to them and their family ask them how they are and how you can help look around your community is it dementia inclusive is your local social or sports club welcoming people with dementia is your shop accessible and our spaces and amenities easy to use it is often the small things that make the biggest difference by being that one person who asks what can I do you are making that difference for more information visit understand to


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My talk is on sound card based radio direction finding basically what what we're doing is locating transmitters and using simplified hardware that's cheap and so what's radio direction finding determining the direction that a transmitter is relative to a particular receiver if you have multiple stations you can do triangulation you can also do triangulation by making multiple observations this is like a single receiver so you're measuring the angle that the transmitter is relative to the receiver with one station or one observation you don't know exactly where they are but you know what direction if you have multiple observations or receivers you can do triangulation and get a pretty good idea of where that transmitter is there's a number of uses some of these are like emergency aid and rescue say someone's lost but they have some sort of radio you can probably help locate them locating jammers or interference of various sort there's people that do tracking for sport or tracking wildlife say endangered species that have been outfitted with transmitters finding interesting sources like police perhaps or military and tracking them basically this is your standard Doppler example as you move towards a source the radio waves compress and you get a higher frequency if you move away it's lower so kind of an example here normally the guy the girls on the left are twirling and as you're going towards and away from the horn you notice a change in the pitch and we're going to use this procedure to determine where they are but instead of you moving around you rotate your antenna and if you know where the antenna is and your received signal will have you'll you'll have two signals you have your antenna angle and then you have your received signal and you measure the phase angle and that will tell you the angle relative to the receiver that the transmitter is you do this a whole bunch and do and you average your measurements so you and do some filtering so basically you have your antenna rotation signal your Doppler shift you run that into your sound card measure the phase angle do some DSP GPS coordinates triangulation combined plot and coordinate with other stations or your own logs advantages low cost hardware you can do updates on the fly there's a lot of other things other advantages that that you can do by doing it this way there are some problems you do need a computer those are expensive you could also do it on a microcontroller with the standalone DSP and sound cards aren't the best analog to digital converters they do have some error and problems along with the the way that it works with the operating system this is black diagram of what I've been working on using a microprocessor and a cellular telephone antenna switcher they're pretty simple you only have two bits to control which antenna you're you're on and you switch between those quickly you get a pseudo antenna rotation target computer is about 300 bucks so we want this to be easily accessible you do need a radio however at this time this is kind of an example of what a single station that's driving around and making multiple observations might look like you can also do static stations there's a pretty good book about implementing practical DSP systems by Richard G. Lyons there's a good DSP intro course that's Creative Commons if you're interested contact me I can send it to you it was done last year at Tapper this is the antenna switcher that I'm currently using it's pretty small and very cheap it's under five dollars US for single quantities and I'm just using a spark fun breakout board to hook it up to the microprocessor and the antennas this is this is the antenna setup that I'm currently using it's pretty simple it's made out of tape measures and PVC pipe there's other variations that you could do like four cord wave whips there are some some problems if you were going after some something that was sensitive like police or something like that and you were coordinating over the internet and that you kind of expose your location in order to do the triangulation with other random people there there is a current working version that some Dutch guys built I'd like to make an open source hardware and software implementation some more information contact me via email thanks