e were able to produce something for COVID-19 surveillance in Sri Lanka which is again like we as in not just a history Lanka it was us and especially the Ministry of Health and many others like especially the ICT agency who's representing all the tech related work and the entire governance of the country so that is one and the next thing I wanted to highlight is around this I mean like just after like one year's time then we started producing COVID-19 vaccine and that is when we were also tasked with this very difficult target of enrolling the entire population of 21 million people of Sri Lanka into DHS2 and to track them for COVID-19 vaccinations so these were the two things that that are the highlights of this entire implementation but what I would like to highlight is about what made it possible so this is something that is also relating to my PhD work so first thing of course like I will start with what Austin has and last has been highlighting the platform so yesterday evening there was one session at 5 p.m. where we kind of tried to discuss about the digital public goods and the community and like one aspect was like now DHS2 is present everywhere right not just health education climate who's doing that are you guys promoting DHS2 by just going to all the ministries it's not really that the the true thing that actually happened in in Sri Lanka and many other countries is like platform while it is being modular it's so customizable right we have many other DPG so open source solutions where the community and I mean like it's actually mostly talking to the developers but here it's the implementers and the ministries it is so easy to adopt so that is one main thing about the platform that made it possible during the pandemic so it was not just agile development it was agile implementation so we started with something very basic for port of entry monitoring and then of course we had a lot of support that's my second thing the community and the engagement so we had a local community in Sri Lanka plus UIO and the entire HIST like we were working with everyone in the HIST and the UIO Austin specifically I must mention like he had sleepless nights supporting us to build apps based on this innovative platform and of course finally the local capacity so we had a lot of collaborations with the University of Colombo like more than one decade I would say like Prof Yon can talk more about it so we had in country capacity so that's why we were competent and confident to do something during the pandemic so these strings three things are what made it possible super and then we can go over to Andrew maybe because they may be the the the best in class of borrowing all these innovations across the HIST groups can you tell a bit about your experiences yeah thank you Christine I think Randa is like Sri Lanka so for us what happened is that you know my personal experience is that during the pandemic people always panic and the panicking goes around the different areas I remember when they called me to go to the front line I was at home then my family was telling me you're going yes I said yes I'm going oh you're going to bring COVID in the back home I said no no no it's not bring COVID we're going to do interventions A, B, C, D they say let's pray for you then close your eyes when that time you see good when you close your eyes but what I want to mean is that sometimes during the pandemic there will always be no options I mean no one would be knowing what to do what will happen then lack enough when we heard a story from Sri Lanka that's when we understood that at least there is a module there is a package that can be implemented so one story I want to tell you when we are trying to find different solutions because during COVID there was many suggestions one vendor came and said we can customize it then let's have a meeting tomorrow then all of us we went including our leadership to check on the system then when you reached on the timeline the person said it will take us six months that is the minimum then the minister was like oh six months all of us maybe will be that will be not there then that option was not was not our option because you know that's why I want just to emphasize on the flexibility of the HHS too so imagine if you can implement a solution and take six months when you are when it's an intervention for the outbreak so what we did was because after reading the the the story from Sri Lanka we told our leadership give us time because you know when we are taking this innovation we don't say we are taking them we just say we are going to code then they give us like two days we go somewhere when it's just import importing the package then we went and imported the package one day second day third day we started the system running and everyone was reporting we are able to to to get the data because it was important for us to know the cases to confirm the cases and be able to know what which intervention because remember on the pandemic you have to ensure that one district if it's more affected it doesn't affect another districts so for me I think the important thing that made Rwanda to use the HHS too during pandemic one is flexibility it takes little time to implement because at least we have a big community that are implementing and they're having innovations and these innovations are free they are open that is our value the second is that we have a global team the network we are not working alone we are in the countries but we work with the country experts but again we have global teams that are developing the system that gives us the confidence to implement the third is that we don't require training sometimes some of these modules they are using tracker and we already have tracker there then whenever you implement it users will get used without having the five or ten days training so without taking long I think we'll be answering based on the questions thank you thank you Andrew and this is very good examples but as we learned from last but some of us knew it before and everyone knows it actually our history with PEPFAR goes way back from when my Garen came 8 of December 2012 and we okay we can go into 13 then but more can you tell a bit about the the the travel and the journey with the HHS too and why PEPFAR chose to to go along and we are very happy for that I have to say that's another story how PEPFAR has been so instrumental to be called for the HHS to to become a platform because somebody needs to finance the core and nobody wants that except for PEPFAR so thank you Kristen and it's a it's a pleasure to be here particularly in this panel with so many esteemed colleagues you know PEPFAR has been investing in the DHIS2 platform as you said since 2012 actually I think some of those initial discussions started and this predates the shift in the PEPFAR program to to doing much more granular data collection much more frequently at the facility level and and we support over 50,000 individual facilities over 53 countries so more than more than 30 and in 23 of those countries those are bilateral so we have a bilateral agreement in those and almost all those countries DHIS2 investments predated PEPFAR's engagement in those countries and and that was one of the major reasons why my my predecessor Mike Garon chose as as we were looking at sort of reading the tea leaves about where the program was going wanting to do more than sort of a single data point entered for a single country once or twice per year to quarterly getting much more granular about all aspects of the HIV epidemic monitoring that and so that that appetite for data we knew on the system side that you were not going to be able to engage with host governments around that level of data collection that level of frequency if you were to bring in some big proprietary system that really had the perception of hoovering up data from from a country so that was a strategic decision to use the systems that were known and trusted and that there was a large community built around DHIS2 already however there were growing pains associated with that and Lars mentioned and I see Jason and Oula and lots of other folks who've been part of that journey with the PEPFAR program over the last decade plus PEPFAR is celebrating its 20th anniversary this year there's a big campaign of course with our lawmakers to advocate for a reauthorization of the program and we're very hopeful about that but something really remarkable is happening right now within the Department of State where where I work and where the PEPFAR program is is focused and so we are as in about two weeks we will be the global health security and diplomacy bureau PEPFAR has always been sort of a temporary office within the Department of State and the PEPFAR program will be the anchor for this bureau so we will still be executing PEPFAR we'll still be doing that but there will be other diseases added to that bureau and our ambassador ambassador John Kingison who previously led Africa CDC and worked on the COVID response across the continent will be dual-hatted representing that bureau and the PEPFAR office I mentioned this because it's relevant because as the as the PEPFAR program has helped to advocate for more investments than DHIS2 created that appetite for data much more frequently much more granularly which again we can get into some of the caveats associated with that we have an opportunity to better coordinate the way in which different parts of the United States government are thinking about their data models the tools they use to take those up the the capacity approaches they take for those that are collecting and managing data systems at a country level and so we see potential over the next years to really leverage the the new organization within our office in our bureau to be sharing the examples and experiences that we have within HIV data across a variety of other areas now the the the double sided coin with PEPFAR using data so often is that there's just a sensational appetite for the types of data at a global level that we that we need and so we're really trying to there's there's there's a sustainability roadmap in in development right now and we have a data roadmap that will be a part of that that'll be publicly available and the next few months as well and we really want to start in incentivizing my my boss disagreed just last week and what I was trying to say we need to control our appetite for data and that's not going to happen where we do agree is we can control our appetite for parallel data so we really need to be doing more education showing the consequences of asking for things that don't really exist in national systems and being and using a better awareness of what actually exists and what it takes to generate those to inform what we collect when and how we use that and so part of that data roadmap is better describing the the sort of archetypes the states of national systems and investments from country to country and helping us to understand what we can reasonably ask for and what formats and I'm looking at my colleagues from Global Fund who are in here as well who are already starting to think about following PEPFAR's model for direct reporting and really just want to encourage us and our colleagues from WHO as well really just to be thinking really very hard about how and what we're requesting because of because of those consequences. I did just want to say a couple other things as we're as we're developing and using these systems the the need to monitor the HIV epidemic longitudinally is very real and most many countries are doing some sort of individual level systems whether that's tracker or open MRS or something else and and also for HIV and many other programs we need to look beyond data that may be in DHIS too and so there's a lot of guidance that we have out of around our program right now around sort of integrated national data repositories data warehouses in some countries they may be trying to use DHIS too for that Lars and I spoke earlier but a lot of they're using Azure they're using AWS they're using something that may be on-prem that might be hosted might be hybrid and we should only expect more of that and we're driving a demand for that but thinking about how DHIS too feeds into that is part of that is absolutely important. Coming from representing the United States government we have a lot of cybersecurity requirements and so a lot of these investments in core have been a necessity for things that we need to be able to use this platform within the United States government system boundary and those are only increasing so multi-factor authentication encryption data at rest encryption data in transit zero trust architectures a big one that's coming as well and so we were able to grandfather use of DHIS too in as an open source product and it's not as encouraged right now with the U.S. government so we really want to be working more closely with University of Oslo over the next years to really continue to advocate for why investments in open source systems are so important and demonstrating how those can actually work within United States government boundary other boundaries where there's an increasing focus on cybersecurity etc and that gets me to the point that Kristen Rae well so we continue to hear about how great it is to have free features in the platform and the importance for standard core but that doesn't come for free there there's someone paying for those salaries and others and so PEPFAR has been very fortunate in the ability for our funding to be able to be not implementation focused for the funds that we give to core software development we do have a much larger amount of funds that we put into implementation but that happens at our country level so we have a core investment that goes there we were able and ignore ad and PEPFAR were some of the original partners that were able to provide that that core funding and for all the reasons that that Austin and Morris have laid out this morning we feel that this is absolutely important and looking at my colleagues from digital square path where we coordinate our investments to to University of Oslo for core software we're looking to donors to be able to make that case more broadly there's huge benefits to having a stable platform that we can use in a lot of different sectors a lot of use cases but in the early days we were very nervous where PEPFAR was an outsized piece of that pie for the core software development those pieces have increased the overall size of the pie has increased and that's great but we need to continue to advocate for what for why for why that's important and then just I'll leave with the importance of working with indigenous capacity the PEPFAR program has a target of 70 percent of our funds that go to the country level are focused on indigenous organizations I think there's so many with the HIST networks with others that are using DHIS too there's a huge community of developers that are doing this but more more broadly even beyond DHIS too huge initiatives around data science and if we want to just host an event in this this year as well and we're really looking at more more more data literacy making sure that we're able to support platforms that are that are using data in all sorts of different formats not just from DHIS too and and those are not sorts of things that you need to bring in outside outside organizations to be really meeting a lot of those those sorts of things so I'm very excited that we're able to continue supporting the DHIS to thank you I think it needs a hand for this one thank you for that pledge and you and maybe you would like to talk about something else but however or he wants to talk no questions no problem yeah no one thing I wanted to to uh raise because I noted that in us one of his slides where that open source is good because it's less bureaucracy and what I will emphasize is rather that it's good even even even research based evidence that open source is enabling innovation as it is evidence that proprietary software is hindering innovation and that was the example from from Andrew and and Pamu down what happened during during the pandemic where the network of open source software actually enabled sharing of best practices and even apps and not necessarily only the apps but also the the way to do things the best practices etc so I think that is a very very important part of everything and it's also about me I came in after you I have to mention something about the platform as well and we started to discuss with your criticism again Mike Gehren many years back and at one point I remember I asked him him why is the US government coming here and supporting open source kind of anarchistic group like this that's not very normal and he said yes no because we are progressive he said and also because the reason the official reason was that DHS is used in all these countries and eventually we want to have interoperability and collaboration and uh leading on capacity etc etc various countries so that was according to him than the the official reason that but I think it's quite interesting that that this collaboration came about and I'm happy here that it will continue into the future this big cross of fingers for that and into this this talk about Petra and Mike Gehren I want to say something about the future of DHS because he also had one other you know our numerous discussions he also said I don't understand why you guys are not focused in on where you have monopoly absolute monopoly and that's aggregate data and that kind of analysis and I when we now think about the future of DHS too I want to raise that again not only the aggregate data but please remember that everything that has to do with analytics MNE etc whether it's I mean underrun from the tracker or from medical records etc it's always about single units of numerical data and the analytics coming from that tradition is what we have now seen is a big problem for for DHS too because we have been so successful in making it possible to specialize into different systems which is a good thing because that enable participation and user user control of the development but at the same time it creates a problem with the integration and different silos of systems etc so that has brought us back to where it started and that we need to work harder on the analytics and we have already had a lot of say competition from the system all these other kind of tableau and others who are actually doing exactly what we did in the old days saying that let's take data from all these sources put it into one one database call it a data warehouse and do our analytics so maybe that is the future go back to that again yeah okay thank you I'll stop it I was thinking maybe Austin since the two of you had the presentation maybe we should open up a question to all of you guys or you have a comment Austin yes of course yeah I was going to I was going to just respond quickly to the the four previous speakers so thank you very much for yeah the comments I wanted to start with with Pamud and the sleepless nights supporting Sri Lanka I haven't been yet to Sri Lanka but I would love to go someday so I had to support it from quite a far away but I think you you highlighted very clearly what is the power of a platform in addressing real needs and real urgent needs in public health but in other situations as well and then Andrew you you extended on that to say that it's a it's a community it's a the all of us are sharing our innovations and and working together to address these problems and that's really I think quite unique and enabled by that platform as well and I was in Rwanda with you a couple months ago with a group of 50 people learning about integration and that touches on the another point that both Mark and Jorn brought up which is interoperability and integration are a part of that platform and that extensibility and being able to play well with others and get data to where it needs to go and so it was really a powerful experience to be in with 50 people learning about interoperability with DHS to from 20 different countries or more and then taking a bus across the the border to Uganda to meet with some very talented developers in the network in the community working on building extensions and adaptations of DHS to and so I think the the interoperability is a really big part of our focus as well as security and I think that it was on one of my slides but it's a big focus for us as well is investing in first-class support for interoperability and first-class support for top-notch security which has sometimes been been an afterthought in in the space where we work and and yeah so interoperability and complex architectures and and being able to get the data to where you need it to be able to do triangulated analytics on that I think is really the the way that we're we're going in the future so looking forward to that journey together I was my quick comment sorry it was a little bit longer no no no no no we open the floor so you want to comment I can just have just just super quick comments on to build on what marx says and also you and says I think you know DHS to be really we do spend a lot of energy building out analytics right we have people you know working very hard on it but the thing is we also built out very complicated or not very but the big complicated tracker systems now where people do you know modern child analysis this household and the spring and this whatnot and and then the problem is that people come and say oh but we can't really analyze this data you know we spend all this time putting the data in but we can't look at it in analytics and I would say that maybe we are putting a unnecessary constraint on the system and ourselves because the data is there and the data is there and there are things like there's a thing called sequel that allows you to query the database to get the data out and display it in the report that exists right so but still we say can't be done right but it can so I feel like to kind of take some pressure off the dishes to analytics and you know save the the poor guys working on analytics day and night we should be able to also kind of integrate the more ad hoc explorative analysis that we do find today in data warehouses and bi tools in DHS because it can be done is it that we say that it can't um I would say that DHS 2 is really a fantastic tool when it comes to distributing analysis to many people right um you know that's implementing a data like a bi tool at scale can be difficult because of training and installation and costs so like distributing analysis in DHS 2 is is what the the software does really well so I think in the future now uh with Unlady's team I think it's going to be really interesting to see if we could try to combine the power of the kind of DHS 2 predefined reports and dashboards and program indicators with the more explorative ad hoc analysis that we can do in in data warehouses and the tools together thank you Lars any questions guys and girls from the audience you have the chance no hands yes we have one Pamoud is not here for running anymore so first of all I just wish to commend you this has been fabulous four days really eye opening at all levels oh sorry my name is Amani Siam I'm the regional advisor for health information systems um in the WHO South CC Asia regional office I'm responsible for 11 countries uh eight of them are using DHS 2 profoundly and strongly so so I just wish to commend you on this Lars I take your point we're not going to ask you do this and do that and solutions and whatever but I need you to help us please to in a way having like a marketing strategy for DHS 2 so the asks I have is that you have we are still trapped with the lower and lower middle income thinking for DHS 2 we need to you know raise the bar on this we have a few upper middle income countries who are really in a mess with their facility based systems and there's something to learn there so that would have been one thing of course to reflect on the fact that it's not just a map and what you drew it's the socioeconomic groupings that you have gained and now that you are crossing over from the health to other sectors you have to take that into account the second thing is about data sovereignty I think this is something we need you to package into your marketing and I have to say as as technical agencies we failed you a bit because I think it should have been our responsibility to market the data itself and the use we can't expect you to handle the informatics and the public health aspect as well so so you you really provoke us by a lot of what you've said and what you're in has said so the two asks are definitely to raise the game to speak more about upper middle incomes and what they can learn from DHI students not for Africa only or for Asia it's really it has a global dimension of applicability now second the data the idea that the data sovereignty is always guarded and then third I think what I would really ask you to consider given all the collective partners especially that you have a meeting coming up of the partners in the sense that what I think my colleague from PEPFAR spoke about the spectrum is increasing like for the Southeast Asia now we have a big issue with dinghy it's again uprising we still have a big entrapment with TB so we have to look into cross infection so for me the big education I had coming is the capture the fact that we will definitely want to look at the profile of co-infections what do they look like and third but first of course the NCDs we need more to be done for the NCDs and in that respect I want really to come to urge you to have like a Marshall plan to start thinking of patient registries that should be trapped by DHI students for instance cancer we still are not doing well in analyzing cancer data and they complain about we don't have good data we you know it's really hooked into very small places so I'm just saying that if you can come up a bit more as you say you focus on quality this is what what Austin said we are going towards quality it's also speciality not just quality we have to show new offerings that we are able to handle patient registries for instance that will be a huge asset you will open up a massive scale of data use if we can trap the new types of users beyond what we call the communicable and infectious diseases so these are for us I'm going to write you an email Speaking of which Norway was actually using the SS2 for contact tracing so it's not only the you know upper and you know upper and middle in Asia that is a mess it's also Norway to me almost we have our own problems yeah but that was more like a comment I felt thank you Absalom Mamelina from Malawi because I just want to appreciate for the good presentation and the ambitious plans for the future of the DHIS2 my question I just want to find out if this functionality whereby one is able to compare within countries like in our case we have uh uh banners because we have some challenges uh cross border challenges uh when dealing with the immunization uh ETI whereby but maybe some uh there are cross border issues uh one country let's say we have Mozambique, Zambia, Tanzania we see we're bordering our country so there's this issue of cross border challenges and I just want to find out maybe there could be that fractionate of uh linking uh that linkage between one country to say within the DHIS2 to say uh what they are doing in that country and that are bordering thank you you could talk about we have many cross border projects we have the Mekong we have a cross border project yeah yeah so we have a cross border project between countries in southeast Asia and the big big problem with everything that has to do with cross border is to get the data sharing agreement because even though it's about sharing necessary data for example transfer referral of patients between the two sides it seems to be so close to national security etc that all the governments are thinking wow this is this is dangerous so take it easy but yes cross border movement is very important uh in in uh I mean the in in healthcare I mean you have patients moving back and forth you have malaria we have a malaria project also in in in southeast Asia where all the countries agree on on on surveillance and monitoring malaria on the on the border areas so yeah what about the east african community yeah we have the east african community also but that's that's more like data to shared shared database it's similar we have uh west africa health organization also having that kind of shared data across across countries so reporting up to a shared database that's of course should be easier than to actually have cross border direct exchange of data because it's require less of less agreements on on security of data and and mo use etc but yes we are both both in the east africa community and west africa health organization I think so yeah thank you I am to make up from uh west africa uh uh west african health organization and yesterday we shared some experience on that and I think so more than the other collective the other regional economic community west africa today this problem of the data sharing agreement or it is not a problem because among the countries no border the people are just circulating from freely circulating one country for the other we have a Nigeria that's so no visa no anything I'd require it so the challenge become for the health why to do to ensure that so the health the health problem not become the barrier for that free circulation among the people and we since Ebola crisis in 2014 2016 we have now a regional platform for the information sharing and that regional platform we are improving it every day to improve the information that's so it's accessible for any country that's so the data entry is done in each country basic epidemic prone disease for the moment and the all other country have access on it they can do it until district level that's so they can localize the points now we are putting information on the point of the entry that can be in the gis module so that the people know where the people getting entry from the other country and where the problem that's so the problem of the I think so one of the difficulty in the other countries that's so that free movement in the among the the country they become yet the problem that is not problem in the ocovas that's so what we are doing now and working with his supporters is so how to improve the platform to be really today we are working on the the early warning system on that platform that's so in any case notified at a suspected case you know how the other countries can take it as alert to activate the mechanism of the prevention for that point of the health security thank you 15 minutes into the app competition so maybe somebody will look at me oh we have a question more okay we can't can be be short Pakistan well this is Mustafa Jamal Kazia national coordinator Pakistan for TB HIV in malaria ever since I'm not a doctor but I can be a very good manager ever since I've joined this assignment and I'm keep on very close eye on the DHS too and what problems we are facing right now the sharing of datas from the private sector to the public sector and from public sector to private sector it seems very very tough and every one of them are engaged not the public sector but the private sector is quite engaged working in the silos these needs to be you know mandatory for the private sectors to share the datas with the public sector so that we can integrate it a proper data space into the entire DHS system in the CMU what we have seen so far it is not happening and seldomly you know they talk too much but they don't do that so what I would be requesting that it should be done in latent and this is what everyone is in connection with DHS for developing the software and then they you know manage their data accordingly I would be suggesting that the public sector is the most I would say that the key and pivotal for all the databases for the partners and supporters to work with it this is the main problem and secondly I would be saying there are some cross-sectoral or multi-sectoral approaches in the DHS too is little lacking we need to do that also strengthening the multi-sectoral engagements into these diseases like HIV, TB and malaria are also facing challenges in blood front transfusions so this could be the best educator well any patient or anyone who is actually transfused the blood it should be indicated so I would be inviting the DHS too to come to Pakistan and prepare a software for blood transfusions also so that we can maintain the data and manage this thing thank you very much I can actually try to try to wrap up a few of these different different lines of thinking maybe a little bit and bring it back to the platform that we were talking about at the beginning as well and data sharing is important and Mark you mentioned direct reporting using national systems and not having parallel reporting I think there's a lot of similarities between that and cross-border sharing not necessarily of cross-border migration but of different countries reporting the aggregate data at the end of the day right that we want to see to track progress overall and we see that as something that we're investing a lot in as the DHS do platform as well is in being able to have the ability for multiple systems to come together to have the aggregate data from the result of a tracker program for example you want to get a count out of it at the end of the day and you want to send that to your national HMIS and maybe that national HMIS is sending it to PEPVAR or sending it to Global Fund or sending it to the East Africa region or something like this and there's a lot of I think opportunity for us to be able to bring that data together in using the tools that we have and building in integrations also with other systems because it's not always DHS do there's a lot of DHS do but there's many other systems as well so building interoperability with those systems and being able to combine data from different programs different countries into somewhere where they can be actionable so bringing that data together to where it can really be operated on I think is really valuable as a platform I don't know if anybody else wants to Just one final comment so the problem you highlighted the way the HISP look at it from our approach it's more socio-technical so there is so much that the platform a technology can do but it's more about the governance that you set up in the country and they will do as DHS to platform the technology it's more about how you approach the problem and work with the government set up the proper governance and implement in such a way that this cross-sector collaboration is made a reality. Okay so I get to stay on stage I guess I'm going to help to facilitate the app competition so as we've been talking a lot about this platform there are a lot of extensions and adaptations of DHS too that are shared and we have an app hub we have a way for people to build and share Android applications that are built on top of the Android SDK that were built on top of DHS too and so we had a quite a number of submissions very high quality submissions many of them were presented on a session on Monday and on yeah and now we're going to listen to the five finalists present their applications so each of them will have seven minutes to present and all of you at the end of that will vote on who you think is the best or the the most innovative or the most interesting innovation that is presented today so with that I think my colleague Renee is online as well so hopefully we can get get the system set up Renee is our developer advocate and who helps to facilitate the collaboration of the developers in the community we also have several presenters who are online as well and and hopefully we'll get that up shortly otherwise I'm just going to keep riffing all right I guess I'm going to keep doing that is anyone have a question about the the app competition or the platform or want to comment on any of the applications that you saw in the in the previous session I'm going to have to repeat it probably because I'm not sure we have a mic two minutes cool sure so the idea is to really focus on that that quality yeah sorry the quality the question was um it's a good question uh so I mentioned that there will be a year between version 40 and version 41 in the releases of dhs2 and is that going to continue beyond 41 so is that just a one-year thing or are we continuing so the idea is that we want it to be uh uh transparent and and be able to to share exactly like what our plan is when you can expect things to come from from the core team so for 41 it will be in one year looking forward we want we want to make that kind of a consistent pattern we might change it again in the future but looking forward the the current plan is that it will be uh yearly release and that being said we'll we'll adapt as as we go and so we do have also the continuous releases and the and the other ways that we continue to innovate and and build on top of that and yeah thanks yes yeah so we'll be we'll be sharing again more details about that and but the the three release uh so so we support three releases three stable releases back and what the immediate effect of pushing 41 to may of 2024 is is that that everything will be supported for an additional six months that's already out there today right so we have the still the three release policy okay sure it's a good question so given given the like i'm just i'm gonna repeat the question given the increase of multi-sectoral use of dhs2 how high on our agenda is the support of multiple organets or multiple organet hierarchies within dhs2 and that definitely is something that is something we're thinking about a lot and it's not necessarily again going back to what lars mentioned of of problems and not solutions there are different ways to approach that and we would want to approach it in a way that makes sense and is scalable multiple organet hierarchies as a concept is something that we're definitely thinking about it's not on the talk it for 41 at the moment but it's definitely i think you'll see some functionality towards that end towards also managing larger volumes of organets that are of different types using groups potentially to have the same effect as as multiple organet hierarchies for example so we'll yeah be able to share more about that in the future but good question sure how many app submissions were there um does anyone have the total number i think there were something around 40 app submissions 30 30 or 40 um maybe a little bit less um i don't know if anyone has the number in front of them but yeah there were quite a few this year and there were quite a few uh high quality ones so we had five that presented on monday um as in web applications and then we also had uh the the three web application finalists that are today and we had two app uh android application finalists plus a number that were um interesting as well in that i'm not sure if i'm just going to keep talking here or we're we're going to start the app competition hopefully you can do that soon so there's a problem yeah which so no solution to some there's a problem where if you have open it with your organets or the events over time i think you don't retain the data historically is this something you find as a problem as well that requires some solution so yes i absolutely think so so i think this is part of the the yes sorry the the question was around uh if your metadata changes over time the data it becomes associated with different things or or gets lost potentially in in some situation so how do you manage the changing metadata and and the effect on data in a system and that is i think a big part of the managing metadata over time push that we have so in in addition to just being able to manage your metadata you need to say how does this how does this change over time what does that effect have what effect does that have on the data that is in my system so being able to merge and split org units for example being able to combine data elements and be able to have basically migrations for the data is definitely something that is part of that push in 41 and beyond how are we looking max um so this is a we will be going to i believe to songs one for the party in a little bit and since i'm up here we don't have an agenda i'm going to invite anyone who would like to go for a run to go for a run with me and about 10 other people who are going to be jogging around songs one lake later today so if you have your running equipment or one or one run barefoot and then jump in the lake afterwards you're more than welcome and it's a very nice flat three kilometer course that goes around the lake it's very beautiful so feel free to feel free to join and then we'll have lots of other games and and things like that i think around as well ah we've got something going on here okay we're good all right so without further ado that was much ado but we will have less of it uh we are going to turn it over to the app competition so we have a number of finalists and i'm hopefully rena is online and can help me to introduce the first of those finalists rena are you there with us can you can we hear you and that's where you can hear me but i can hear you we can see you but we cannot hear you working on that all right i don't know what he's supposed to say no he's got the list do you hear me now still no apologies the technical difficulties we're doing so well rena can you try again yeah hi hello still no audio they can hear me on the zoom call at least and so now the question is can you hear me in the audience what's the run line uh yeah it's three kilometers uh two two miles flat around the lake what's the prize for winning the app competition uh so we have badges on the community practice for all the winners of the app competition we also provide basically sponsored attendance at one of the app developer meetups that we have um so we've done that in the past as well um yeah and we actually have a i think i think gift is still here is gift gift here gift i can't i don't see where you are ah there we're in the back gift was actually the winner from the app competition last year so let's give a round of applause to gift with his Tanzania gift do you know any jokes sounds sounds promising looks like i'm off the screen already can you hear me yet yep yep we're getting there all right okay next time you guys gotta give us time to set up between sessions yeah we're good now so you can hear me in Oslo rena you're on thanks all right all right um okay i'm gonna keep this relatively short because we're a little bit over time um but first of all i want to thank everyone that has submitted an app to the app competition there were outstanding applications this year and as Austin already mentioned we had a really tough choice in in selecting the finalists we've selected five finalists in the end that we think should be on the spotlight today and you really should enjoy the the presentations that are coming up um from them um there is let me see i'm i have as as as Austin mentioned i have the list in front of me and we're gonna start off um i'm gonna go with the order a little bit and i'll explain how the voting works um first of all Hespio and uh uh albert is gonna show us the visualization studio and um sully usu from uh hisp Indonesia will show jumpa doctor and android application then there is eric from hisp Tanzania who will be showing us the analytics messenger then uh chaturanga i'm sorry if i don't pronounce it correctly will show um the growth and nutrition monitoring system and then finally uh we have uh not show from uh ict who will show the homepage app and we have two android applications and three web applications this year and they will all be sharing the same uh all be in the same pool unlike last year if you're familiar with how it went last year that we had a separate vote for both android and web um there will be a vote after the presentations are done um and that means that once the last presentation is done you can go to the community of practice to vote um there will be a poll up as soon as the last one is done i will be sharing a qr codes for everyone can just take their phone and scan the qr code and directly go to the c o p um and make sure you're logged in there and then you can vote um okay i i'm just gonna hand it over as we're half an hour past the the schedule time which is totally fine um there is seven minutes for each finalist um and albert i'm not sure if you're already a co-host but i want to hand it over to you unless there's anything i need to mention before that um and then you can start your presentation thank you rene i'll share my screen please confirm that you can see my screen yes yes i can see it here yeah so hello hello ladies and gentlemen my name is albert mutesasa from his pew ganda and this afternoon i'm here to present to you an innovative solution that addresses some of the limitations of the current dashboarding tools and that solution is the dhs2 visualization studio app now this application is a dashboarding tool that aims at revolutionizing data analysis and visualization by tackling the several crucial challenges that we have right now now um previously the dhs2 commit has often been facing a challenge of lack of real-time data updates while analyzing data secure public access in form of public portals intuitive visualization of data on one instance for multiple data instances or data data sources rather including different dhs2 instances and also data from other external systems which are non-dhs2 we also looked at highly customizable charts to the liking of the user now this deficiency significantly hampers effective analysis and visualization especially when real-time insights and public accessibility are of at most importance now the solution on top of the the problem we the previous solutions were project specific uh thereby i'm having trouble with uh okay good previous solutions we are project specific and required in developing dashboards after dashboards and we are time consuming so uh above all that we come up with a solution which is the data visualization application and this offers live data monitoring this enables real-time data analysis for timely insights and decision-making it also offers display of data from diverse sources including different dhs2 instances and other non-dhs2 external sources it also offers an ability to create custom indicators using metadata and it can be metadata from different dhs2 instances or even other non-dhs2 instances or non-dhs2 systems it also you it also provides the the the the the ability to access dashboards without login but also putting uh security without compromising security it also offers the the the ability for flexible chatting meaning that it provides a versatile and customizable chatting system for effective and visualization uh the dimension it is also highly highly customizable to the dot um we this work we have done some collaboration with with with with one of the his groups which is his proanda and it came on board in the later stages of the development because they are facing a similar problem so we have been working together in terms of collaboration and using different tools to come up with a perfect product for this one here um we have used this application in in in a number of use cases in Uganda here one of them is at the campaign dashboards so we customize the campaign dashboards using the visualization studio application and these are real-time meaning that data is displayed as it comes in we've also customized the Uganda manifesto dashboards uh this is in the department this is in the office of the president we've also worked with the minister of education in Uganda to customize the school based surveillance dashboard using the visualization studio app we've also worked with the WHO in uh Uganda here to come up with uh with interactive dashboards or an online visualization tool which was also customized using the visualization studio app we've also worked with the surveillance department in the minister of health to come up to customize the EVD dashboard and this is real-time also um this this this these are screenshots of some of the use cases we've worked on this is the polio vaccination campaign dashboard which is real-time this is the the office of the president the manifesto dashboard this one is not real-time uh this is the the measles rebella campaign dashboard and this is also real-time this one is the the WHO dashboard the online visualization tool which has also customized using the visualization studio application this one is the the screenshot for for the sbs dashboard the school based surveillance dashboard which was also customized in using the visualization studio application this one is the yellow fever application now you you must be seeing zeros because this is real-time data is going this these are queries already waiting for data to come in to be displayed and as soon as data comes in uh the data will be displayed here and it has a it has a refresh interval of 10 seconds so after 10 seconds it refreshes the dashboard and it displays this data here um this this is how the the application looks like and uh with that presentation i'll take you through a small demo of what this does so this is a this is already and this is already the dashboard that i have made before and i'm going to i'm going to show you what we the process of creating a dashboard so here you create a data source as you can see we have a different data sources here this instance here is the ei desa dot health dot go dot ug but i've created uh more than four data sources one of them is this one that is coming from the hmi s and you see the url is different this other one is uh is the ecs which is coming also from the another instance the url is also different and after there you can create a category which is like a program area then you go ahead and create a visualization query which i've already created one so we won't have to go through that then after creating a query you can create an indicator which in turn we are going to use to create a dashboard so i've created one of uh one dashboard to for this particular purpose here and i'm going to show you how we create this one so it like i said it is highly customizable from from the filters to the dashboards to the logos etc etc now assuming that i have another sponsor for this particular work i'm doing i can just go ahead here and add a logo for that particular sponsor here um this this is going to be an image i'll add the image then after adding the image i can upload this image let me get maybe his Uganda is sponsoring this one and i apply that and my logo will come down here let me say i have another another sponsor here i can add another sponsor down here these are already created dashboards this is already a created dashboard so i can add a single value here like this i add a visualization i give it a title let us say presumptive presumptive TB cases right i can i can come here my query is this one here which is the percentage of presumptive TB cases identified in opd and this time it is a single value something like that so it is zero but uh uh since it is a percentage i can say my my number format style is a percent something like that so i can play around with these configurations i can play around with the title um i can configuration we're at seven minutes okay but that's a great presentation and a great dashboard um and thank you for for sharing your visualization studio okay okay thank you thank you um i have a question is the next presenter in the meeting because i'm looking for a solid user from his indonesian for the next presentation um okay we'll we'll we'll move over to the third presentation and hopefully um uh solid user will be here with us soon but then next is eric from his Tanzania and he will show the analytics messenger eric floor is yours and i cannot hear you yet hello everyone yes perfect yeah i hope you can see my screen yes all right so i'll start right now yeah my name is eric chingalo system developer from his Tanzania and i'll be presenting to you the dhs2 analytics API messenger so just a little background over the past 20 years we have seen the evolution of the dhs2 as a platform but this has been greatly influenced by the technology trends from having microsoft accesses database to having the dhs2 capture app is a mobile technology so in light of this we also saw a massive growth in the use of the social messaging platforms such as facebook whatsapp is the number shows over there so this brought us an alert that we have a potential bringing dhs2 closer to users through these social messaging platforms and that's where the the whole idea around the dhs2 analytics messengers come about so you might ask what this app is dhs2 analytics messenger is an application that leverages the use of the dhs2 analytics together with the popular messaging social messaging platforms such as whatsapp to deliver analytics closer to the user it mainly takes the dhs2 analytics and brings them to the user through these messaging platforms and you might be wondering how how did we end up doing all this so if we divided this solution into two components the analytics assistant which is which is a chatbot solution and together with the analytics messenger which is more like a push analytics solution this is the web app so for those who are having smartphones you can try to scan this QR code to see the analytics assistants maybe you are very welcome to join this demo as i explained where once you scan this chat this this QR code you can just type hello dhs2 oh hello then you'll get a more of a instruction on how you can get the visualization in a more easier way so within less than 30 less than 30 seconds you'll find yourself having the visualization is how this video shows so i'd urge you all to scan and use this but this resource is going to be available after this slide this is only one part of the dhs2 analytics messenger well the second part is the analytics messenger itself this is a web app now that allows pushing allows pushing of of the dhs2 through the whatsapp number of whatsapp groups so this now allows you to have a whatsapp group configured and you can be able to send your numbers there send your visualizations there so you can scan this QR code and be able to join this group or scan this link over there but you might be wondering why only manually so this also allows scheduling of this push analytics so you can schedule the analytics to be sent automatically but also we we are using this messenger app to configure this analytics in the web app so that you can be able to to configure the analytics which are publicly available but also to configure the flow through the chatbot that i just presented before well we can now try to see the demo of how this web app looks like we'll go to the instance so this is the demo that we are having so our app is called the analytics messenger and within this app as i said before you can configure first the gateways this is more like a communication between your dhs2 instance and the in the analytics services but also on the other hand we are also allowing you to configure the visualizations which are publicly available through the messenger app so in here it's very simple you just have to name your group let's say tb and then you can be able to filter among the dhs2 existing favorites so let's say here this is the list of favorites coming from the dhs2 instance so you can search from them and select which ones you want to be available so this is more like what we are having right now but that's just a configuration part the fun part is the analytics push analytics part where in here you can be able to push your analytics and you can do it by just naming your analytics let's say i'll name this as api and then select a gateway service that we're going to use which is already configured to sending this on our visualizations and selecting which visualization group you want to send together with the with the actual visualization from the filtered list you can also send messages concerning this visualization let's say a simple the simple description of this visualization but the fun part is we are allowing you either to send through whatsapp groups through phone numbers but also through through whatsapp group through phone numbers but also through dhs2 users configured for the sake of this demo i just used the group and you can scan this cube you can scan the qr code for those who are able to scan the qr code you'll be able to see this visualization i'll bring you back to the slide later on so okay very sorry it seems like the server has gone down a bit yeah so yeah we have we have received a number of requests so it seems like the whatsapp server has gone down the technical team is going to help me to set it up so yeah by saving by configuring this one we're able to save and this person can't get this visualization at any time so what we have done we are allowing you to either send them directly or schedule them so for instance i can try to schedule i add this already created so add this yak so for those who are joining the group will be able to see this you can schedule it up and add your scheduling mechanism and we have made it very easy for you so you can say let's say you have visualization wanting to be sent every day midnight for instance or let's say five minutes so by just adding this after five minutes those members joined by the group of dhs2 visualization will be able to get these visualizations there well you forgive me for the for the server seems like it has been down we have lots of people here today so i'll continue the slide and i'll represent to you i don't know if you are seeing my screen so what are the impact of this solution first of all as a senior manager you'll be able to view this you'll be able to view visualizations directly you as a senior manager you'll be able to at instantly get data directly from the assistant but just by just making a normal conversation while on the other side is a national program manager through the dhs2 analytics messenger you can send your visualization to the program managers groups so they can get more notification concerning it well this has been all i have this c o p post in the community of practice you can try to scan this QR code all the resources are going to be found here and for those who aren't able to follow up the demo we'll share the links there so that you can follow up easily and get to know more about us we can also chat through our email info at hisptanzania.org thank you so much for your cooperation that has been all don't forget to vote for us thank you thank you eric it was maybe just to refresh like we were going to sort out the several issues seems like we had lots of resources of requests from the members so forgive us for the inconveniences of course thank you for your amazing presentation and you were nicely in time so perfect um we're gonna move over to the next presentation um this is going to be done by chat ranga from history langka and i will present a android application um the first android application that we had planned is uh either going to be moved to the back uh hopefully um sell the user will be here uh in time um but until then chat ranga good luck with your presentation and um your floor is yours yeah thank you so much and uh good afternoon everyone hope you can actually see my screen over here yeah and um yeah so i'm presenting um i'm chat ranga from the ministry of health Sri Lanka and i'm presenting today uh growth and nutrition monitoring system a custom made android based mobile application um which is developed by uh Sri Lanka here's Sri Lanka and which is um which actually using the android SDK which is provided by the dhs2 team and which acts as a tracker capture program on dhs2 for the ground level field health officers uh who are like you know public health midfifters so when you initially come to the application when you click on it and you will be prompted with the logging screen and um as you can see i have actually logged into the uh application so once you logged into the application you can actually see these uh the trialing well like you know we have multicultural uh ethnicities so we have singhalese tamil and english so i'll head on to the english version so when you're inside the uh inside the application you'll be prompted with like dashboard and where you can actually get the information from and on the bottom of the screen you can see the syncing and the changing of the language if you accidentally hit on it um hit on the wrong language so in here you can tap on this uh in here you can actually see all the registrations and other programs such as like you know supplementary feeding program therapeutic feeding program i'm starting to interrupt but we don't see your screen moving uh can you see we see the login screen really hold up yes i'm also pausing the time for a bit to make sure you're working again give me a minute can you see the screen now yes i see a screen yeah yeah so i'll start from the beginning so uh once you're logged in you can see the uh the the trialing well uh interface and i'm going into the english pro uh language and you can actually see all these uh um information at a glance you can actually see all of this and um you know the different programs we are actually having like therapeutic supplement feeding therapeutic feeding program uh likewise so in be my uh area details if you go into that you can actually see all the children which are um in your area like you know this um like ground level field officers can actually have a look at their children in in in their area so all children and active and uh once their children is completed like you know they have received all the treatment it'll be in the completed area so once you go back to the dashboard you can actually see this child registration which we have actually categorized into three parts where the child's uh information whereas like the the gram and the other area which which is the smallest administrative area in Sri Lanka and birth and immunization registration number and you know the name age um like you know date of birth all of that ethnicity all of that information and then mother um like mother's name uh national identity card number like that and if there is like you know unfortunately the mother is uh passed away or something like that then the caregiver's uh information and the birth details of the child so i have prepared a child already and once you enter the child's details you can actually see the the child's details as in a matter of like this so if you want if you have accidentally entered different data you can actually simply uh tap on the edit button and you can change the name like that and submit it again so now i have already enrolled this child into like few different programs so the basic information like you know the anthropometry tracking so anthropometry tracking is like it continuously happening like repeated data periodically done by the round level field officer right so it it's a spontaneous spotting in the system so so once you actually enter these data you can actually see um in a graph like we actually have this graph where we can actually plot the data and you can get a good information about the child how this child is actually receiving these um uh the the uh treatments so also i want to highlight that in length and the weight sorry yeah uh in the length and the weight programs we have incorporated this color scheme of this uh the charts so if you put like something like this it'll go into a red color or if you put another value like you know it depends on the age of the child so when you tap on that you select submit and plot the chart and you can see that it should change see it has changed so that's actually incorrect data that's why it has gone up so like that you can actually have the anthropometry data so in the nutrition specific intervention tracking we have separate application in the system so we have this supplementary data therapeutic data program likewise so i'll basically all these application have um you know um uh few section like uh uh you enrollment is a one-time action and the system intervention monitoring which is done periodically periodically to facilitate the update the entry and those intervention packages um and then evidence-based intervention follow uh following of upcoming out of the uh child of following these interventions such as recovery so i'll go into this supplementary feeding program um so indication for the portion which is the supplementary feeding program we are actually uh giving away for the children so you enter the date and let's just say that this child is having moderate accurate malnutrition you submit it and that is just one time so then you have the intervention which will be repeatedly like periodically happening so i'll just say no symposia or let's just say that this child is on symposia so how many packets we would we have given the child so whether if the child is given in counseling yes like that we can submit it so once it's done we have the outcome of it so you select the child and you select what's the outcome of the child whether if the child is recovered whether the child is sent to therapeutic feeding program or defaulted or left the area or left due to condition of age five because this is targeted on under five children and whether the child has passed away so um then again i want to highlight that this is um we are going to collaborate with these cross sectors like it's a it's system the uniqueness is that we are actually going to get get involvement of these multi-sector people so cross sector collaboration with them so we have developed the web based system uh in the in from the mobile application the android application it will just i'm afraid i have to interrupt you here um that was the seven minutes i gave you a little bit extra time because of the technical difficulties that are out of your control uh yeah uh could just give me like you know one minute one minute or two minutes um no no we we need to keep um keep everyone to the same time well if you have a final word that would be okay yeah so this will be the uh so the select program uh you have that section of like reason for enrollment uh we have uh whether the moderate acute malnutrition long standing likewise we have selected the few of these uh problems of the child let's just say that this child is again having these problems um yeah so sorry um yeah so that's yeah of course of course sorry i have to interrupt you here but um we're gonna be having to keep everyone to the same time it was a great application it looks really good um it has with all the other presentations so far um but thank you um then it's up to nacho um are you here or can you yes i can hear you okay perfectly i'm gonna try to share my screen so please let me know when um you can see it can you i can see your desktop yeah yeah okay perfect yeah good luck thank you thank you so much um hello everybody i will be i won't be super long um and they actually will cut me in seven minutes so there's no chance that i am not uh short and we will be partying right after i'm with you i'm with you in spirit but i'm physically like 15 meters far from you there were some technical issues in that building and so i needed to present remotely i'm here to announce you um that on at ict i'm nato from ict and at ict we had a baby actually and this baby is now nine months old we are super proud of her she's doing very well and he's coming to a family that is this family DHS to ict suite that i'm presenting you here um for those of you that don't know what we do we are um doing what we think is creating community by creating multiple applications generic applications that you can install off a on top of a bird bird um DHS to to extend the functionalities that often are not so easy to be done in DHS to so you have here applications for creating trainings distributing metadata packages synchronizing you were talking before about the cross border data exchange so metadata sync will pretty pretty much do that you and but let's focus on um landing page landing page is has been trained by the training app and somehow by her big sister and because it's sharing is inheriting most of its code from the from the training app that you might know it won the competition the competition two years ago and and basically it is fully interoperable so if you create a landing page in training app you can import it in in the home page and so this is like trying to solve some problems that are coming both from shared shared instances you know that in shared instances having groups that see different things when they log in so this is about what you see after the login um is important but it's also important in some instances that are only for one proposed to guide the users into something that makes sense for them um let's go directly to um the application so when you install the homepage app you get this so this is not very useful obviously but then you can go to the settings and you have two main sections one is the landing pages that you have that is here on top and then the actions the actions you need to think them on them about a shortcuts to a place in dhs2 it's basically that you can create both of them from this plus button adding a landing page and adding an action if you add an action you will see um well very basic information that you need to fill in like a styling of that action how that button will appear in this in the screen and then you can decide also what is the application that needs to be launched by this um by the shortcut and which are the compatibility in the compatibility of those shortcuts because you can export them later and you need to be sure that that will work or not in the in the final instance that you're installing this and so that's that's about the actions but let's try to edit a landing page very quickly i i have some something prepared um so i'm gonna just put a name you will see in a couple of minutes we will have a landing page so i'm going to create a landing page um for uh world matter reports i provide an icon i can define many other properties like do i want the sections to be in line in the same page or multiple pages and then do i want to attach an action if i don't want then i just okay put some comment some text if this is an editor that is um for those of you that know markdown this is basically markdown so you can use you can explore your own um configurations i go out and i already have a landing page that makes sense more or less it's very pretty pretty simple then why not i could with markdown put some links here and link this enter enter data and visualize data sections directly to the place in the in the hs2 something more complex i want to add sections there so i'm what i'm doing is okay i will create a section whose name will be um this enter data and then an icon i'm going to associate a data entry shortcut to that and put some meaningful text okay i copy that text here and i save it i'm going to do the same now i have a landing page with a section here i'm going to do the same at another section with the visualizer part so visualizer data is the name of the section um and then i'm going to select that dashboard icon here that will look like the dashboard and then select the action so the shortcut to the dashboard application and some meaningful text here i do know no longer need this because i've converted that into sections so i'm going to delete it and just go and see how it looks like you see in a couple of minutes we have created a landing page where we have sections you can navigate and you can click and it takes you to the place that you want to go in you don't need a developer that's the magic of this and then but i want to show you also some other um features like for example i can import you so and now i have two landing pages i go out i have the selection because i have access to both i can select which one i want and you see it's a landing page with its sections that is pretty much what i want and well later you have like sharing settings that you can do but also you can export translations translations will look like it's super simple actually will look like this so you see this is quite easy to translate and then importing it back it's just importing that um that is it what i wanted to show you and there are more features but i don't have time so just the last say um to recognize that we are all working on giant shoulders and these are my giants these are all the the enormous team of ICT and i wanted to thank also um the the malaria department of W.H.O. and some of the tempers collaborate partners that they have been collaborating with us to make me making it possible and also my two little giants that are waiting for me at home and thank you all um this is on and please if you like it vote for it thank you thank you um all right um that's a great presentation great apps um so far we've seen four of the five um and i've yet to locate saldi youssef from um uh hisp Indonesia if you're here please let your let be yourself known because otherwise we'll have to move on to the voting rounds i'm gonna give you a little bit of time because i don't see you so maybe you're there under a different name and i don't know you're here all right um all right to give everyone uh the information how we are going to do the votes um i think we should go to the votes here um this is also the sign for you to put the pull up on the community of practice um i will share a qr code on screen um that let's see there we go now you can all hopefully see now um there's a qr code there which will link you to the voting um and i have a timer on screen as well um that i will start now and when the timer is done we will close the votes um and the winner will be known um so maybe a final round of applause for all the app presenters um today and the finalists all right um i'm not sure if there's anything that can be said in the audience um while everyone is voting i'm gonna vote myself as well it's only right um already 54 56 votes keep you go keep it going people it's going very fast all right 110 votes people that's amazing let's see if we can have more votes in last year we did have uh promises from our our hosting provider that this wouldn't happen but we do have a number of people getting uh too many requests unfortunately so uh we'll try to maybe move off of this platform for the next uh the next time we'll do this unfortunately keep trying hopefully we can uh get some more people in apologies for the confusion another count is still going up so a lot of people still have success so that's good i think it's number of requests at the same time so keep trying and maybe you'll beat your neighbors in a race and i get a show of hands for anyone who has not yet been able to vote all right a few of you keep trying please 142 still votes coming through so that's good once again anyone still not able to get through okay fewer so please keep trying you will get through i hope last call four three two one and fireworks hopefully everybody had a chance to vote if you didn't i apologize you can write in your vote later and we'll we'll have a recap all right the poll is closed i'm gonna stop sharing that screen um we also have the results i'm not sure if anyone everyone can actually see the results but we do have it it was actually very close i must say between three difference they were all within a couple percentages of each other but i'll go start with the third place again i don't know if anyone can see this but the third place is the visualization studio from his Uganda with 24 24 percent of the votes then on the second place it's the homepage app from ict with 26 percent of the votes and on the first place and congratulations for landing first is the analytics messenger from his Tanzania by Eric Chengelo congratulations thank you Renee for for getting us through that and thank you everyone for your presentations the finalists and congratulations to his Tanzania our winner this year and now we will have some logistics i believe for the the next uh part of the evening or the afternoon so now it's time for the mentee our traditional mentee to close the annual conference so please go on mentee.com and use the following code 87603476 mentee.com oh the mentee can handle so many other questions at once yeah the code should be showing here sorry i'll put it back for now yeah 87603476 is that okay so first question did the annual conference meet your expectations yes 100 yes more or less what i expected partially but a bit disappointing or not at all let's go to the next question just ask the people next to you if any of the we need to move on sorry about that it's supposed to show up here but yeah please describe how the annual conference did or did not meet your expectations if it's content oh sorry okay maybe let me use this one is it better oh yeah okay so please describe how the annual conference did or did not meet your expectations too many sessions met my expectations fantastic good what do you think of the length of the of the conference four days is a good format it was too long two three days would be better or it was too short make it a few days longer i won't say anything what type of session did you like the most plenary parallel or use case bazaar seems like parallel sessions were the most popular next question whether enough plenary sessions yes it was the right amount i would like fewer or i would like more seems like it was the right amount whether enough parallel sessions it was the right amount or fewer or i would like more same that's good whether enough use case bazaar posters seems like it was the right amount as well please share how we can improve the use case bazaar less bazaar fine more categorization too many seems like some more so that's a nice feedback just make them on the paper poster okay let's move to the next one would you like to see over types of formats in addition to plenary parallel and bazaar sessions yes okay let's see the suggestions hackathon training workshops country experiences so speed dating demos practical sessions trainings yeah these are great to bring forward to next year what's where are your three favorite sessions this year AI is pretty big maturity security interoperability i saw usability testing there which makes me happy uh future DHS too yeah looking back and forward hope most people have been able to join with the code sorry it's supposed to show up here but you can also go in and submit feedback at a later point so when you have the slides you can also go in and submit some more so looks like there's a great variety of what people liked which is really good to see and here are some more topics if there's anything we didn't discuss or you would like more of CC sustainability more into integration but also know is pretty high that hopefully means we covered a lot of your interests women in tech i agree we had a nice little session on monday for women in DHS too but it would be great to expand on that one yeah i think we can move on we were 350 participants is that a good number it worked well so that's good then i think we can be more do you have a comment to that no your general feedback suggestions for improvement how can we improve the annual sorry african meals yeah we can look into that hot foods yeah a lot on the food and and the visa process it's so true yeah we know there were some issues with that african meals again more women presenters agreed post in asia well we do have the asia conference for those who might not know we also do have an asia regional conference in the fall in the fall in december what do you think was the most valuable important thing you learned and i saw meeting new people innovations from the country where are we now ownership yeah there's a lot of different things here so that's great cross-sector use that was a big focus this year so that good that people found that useful and also the dpg focus as well yeah i think we'll move on just with time what do you think of drifter the annual conference app we used for the agenda of the conference so it was great made it so much easier to know what was going on it was okay or not useful i prefer the old good old world documents i prefer scared the platform used the previous years or didn't use it so yeah it was okay apparently that's mostly good and okay what did you think of the quality of food i guess african meals will come back good great i heard some comments in the ugeans we also had the food comment earlier so okay good love it add asian food african foods that would that would be fun actually with our with the senegalese restaurant we have also i promise we'll try to look into that next year okay next one what was that then i think the end no sin yeah i think at the end okay thanks all for your comments here's the code again if anyone wants to go in but now we're moving on to our beloved kahoots i'm just going to move this over here for a second i don't know how is the sound on this do we want the kahoot music or are we okay oh there we go yeah so here we at least have the the pin and the qr code so please join please let me know if you can't join think this one we won't have any too many requests errors hopefully so i don't know if we're still online but 400 people can join so i think that's the highest limit we've had i also like the new avatars i haven't seen this before yes he's still some people need to join how many of them have most people joined anyone okay i don't hear anything so it might get started you can also join as as the game goes i guess let's start so about 20 seconds per question so first question if you remember this from monday how many countries were represented at this year's annual conference 53 73 63 or 83 yes 73 someone commented last year that the highest answer was always the right answer so that's that's not happening this year always at least okay jay thousand points very impressive well after a while we'll try and figure out who's who's who but we'll move on to next how many abstracts were submitted for this year's annual conference 59 179 129 249 there's a little bit of a different number presented on monday right so i went for the yeah closest but yeah last time yeah 120 or 179 sorry i said the wrong okay guy next to austin where is austin right there oh i guess guessing it's fun wood i'm sorry i'm revealing your identity already so when did this conference change its name from expertist academy to annual conference which i still think i said a lot this year so it was a 2021 2018 2020 or 2019 that it changed to be the 2019 if anyone thinks any answers are wrong uh go to ula okay blood yeah i don't it's not my okay and often discuss question what does ths2 currently stand for currently at this well now if you remember what austin said earlier as a hint this is a very contested question that we always yeah so as austin said uh currently now it's just the name it's just a an acronym and just people still guessed more system than than software you could read more about it in the news section of our website okay which country was the first national scale mobile web-based h-m-i-s implementation of d-tasu in 2010 this might have been in largest presentation yeah good good memory good memory ula's still in the lead but he's disqualified so vlog this so here's his semester staff are working remotely yeah 58 good lots of people got that don't know all right let's see when is the sunset in oslo today so try to put both so is it at 10 41 p.m is it at 741 p.m is it at 9 p.m or is it at 8 41 p.m i don't know why i didn't do 9 41 p.m please pretend it's 9 41 p.m please never yeah a good one this one was the latest i wanted to do that so hopefully we're all at song swan still right when the sun goes down okay what app is this so there's going to be an app icon so is it the horizontal bar chart app is it the data entry app is it the import export app or is it the reports app i'll see if you know the new icons most people knew it oh joe you knew your own icon yay okay guess the d-tasu version so 1.4 238 218 or 229 i'm trying to remember if this was also controversial last year but i don't think so it could of course be other versions around that area but you know the closest one yes 218 definitely not 238 which one of these is not one of pivots friends is it happy is it tracky is it mappy or is it entry and the picture might give you a hint and is loving this it is tracky the other ones were on the zoom call all right ben ben knew that one of course so we're looking forward to you know continuing this conversation on the cp so one question is how many members have joined in the last year so as you can see all these numbers are pretty high which is really great so two thousand four hundred three thousand two thousand six hundred two thousand eight hundred and i don't remember the answer right now but it was it was round like it was this number yeah two thousand eight hundred might be more now this was done yesterday or the day before oh joe and who has received the most likes on their c o p post in the last year so these are the four top ones so if you see your name great job you're one of the top one is it ulambeck is it haima bosque is it gasim or is it jepps yes as many know it's our wonderful c o p manager gasim a boss for the great job he's doing okay last question very you know the standard question are you looking forward to animal conference next no or yes thank you all know the answer okay i don't even know okay let's let's do the podium third place ulam second place not enough i don't know who that is so is there someone here and then which we do have a couple runners up so i think not enough or maybe the runners up are the you know the real winners so thank you this was the cow so then i think it's max or have you summary who's the first one here that's not uio anyways just for fun because i forgot prices so it's just for fun okay yeah free drinks that's song son free drinks and snacks so we're just moving to the final slides of the closing we want to start by thanking everyone for coming and being part of this and that includes everyone here also people who joined us online we had a lot of great turnout online but especially people who volunteered to come to us low to be part of this who spoke of the event who sent in your abstracts you really make this event what it is so that's it's great to have you all here um we got a lot of good pictures we'll try to share some of these and hopefully have a photo album you can all contribute to if you took great photos and want to share them please tag us on social media or get in touch so we are updating our website with links to presentations you can download those we've done some of that already so just keep checking back and send us an email if there's one that you're looking for that you don't see uh there and we've already uploaded a lot of videos to the youtube channel so you can go to the dhs to youtube channel find the annual conference playlist and that includes all plenary sessions and parallel sessions and the french recordings from the sessions that were interpreted so you can go there and find those and then we encourage you to also just post about this on the community practice so if you had a presentation you made or you have a question for something you presented that's a good way to follow up with people after the event and also to share your own works that people can comment on it or ask you questions about it right and ola do you want to talk about the social event yes thank you max i think before we start about uh start talking about the fun let's thank a few more people um let's start with uh the technical team with with max grant and the rest of the team big thanks big thanks we've had a lot of volunteers so people that are normally programming or documenting dhs have been supporting this so to all the volunteers big big thank you and as always there's one special person that we need to give big extra thanks to alice alice it's soon time for lunch so as you know we have we postponed the lunch a little bit so that you could fill up your stomach before you start to to fill it up with other things a bit later um so right after this we'll go over to the cafeteria we'll have lunch and then as you finish lunch uh try to look for the dark blue badge or someone that you trust and then you can start walk down to the table under the metro station and this is important you should go the opposite direction of what you normally do so this is opposite of the city city center so it's on this side when you walk down and then look for number five song swan is that my phone yeah let's leave it here so look for train number five song swan song swan is the name of the lake it's also the name of the the final stop uh of that line so it should be quite easy so go to the get off at the final stop called song swan and then as you can see on the map here it's just a short walk eight minutes 700 meters down to the lake and then to the left and then the his beach you can search for it on google maps it's there his beach at song swan it's on the bottom left corner of the lake there and there are people there already that have set up a nice camp for us okay and we will serve drinks and snacks uh unfortunately no barbecue this year it's been very very dry um so there's a total ban on all kind of fire barbecue in the forest and we're in the middle of the forest up there so we need to be careful uh so uh to bob and john and other smokers please be careful with your cigarettes okay and then another very serious comment is that we had some unfortunate incidents uh behavior that we don't accept here uh last year of sexual harassment so please respect each other treat each other nicely we're from many different cultures backgrounds and gender be nice to each other and have a good atmosphere we had a great atmosphere all week and let's continue the good atmosphere up there as it it's hot we have drinks but please treat each other with respect thank you so thanks to everyone for joining flying all the way up to the warm north of the world we have amazing weather this week thanks for coming and we haven't finished yet we have many hours of socializing and networking to do up there enjoy his speech and see you up there thank you