Hello, welcome, everyone, to the latest depadaptation Q&A with me, Professor Jem Bandel. And I'm really pleased to be joined this month by Elsie Luna and her mother, Heather. And also wonderful to see people joining us from around the world, including parents with their children too. So, yeah, so I just want to say a few words about Elsie before I introduce her. Elsie was one of the very first UK child strikers for climate and she co-founded Extinction Rebellion Kids. And she was an organizer and spokesperson for Extinction Rebellion and Extinction Rebellion Youth in the past. She's British, Colombian and American, so it brings that global perspective to these issues. And so I was delighted to meet her mum when her mum was working for XR and learn about Elsie and I was so impressed. I thought that it would be wonderful to have the chance to talk about climate in general, but also some of the worst-case scenarios, depadaptation in particular, and the implications for young people, but also very importantly, what young people think we need to be paying attention to. So, Elsie, I believe you're 12 now, is that right? I'm 11. You're still 11. When's your birthday? October. Okay, okay, is that when you were a Libran? Me too, I think. So, super, thanks for joining. So, I think, so my first thing when I saw your speech recorded on YouTube, I think a speech you gave in Bristol, and then when I saw some of the things you've said and also even in an academic article, I'm going, this is unreal. So, can you tell me something about how you got into this? What got you started on being a climate activist and an advocate and indeed sort of thinker on these issues? Yeah, so ever since I was little, I knew that the planet had a fever, but only a few years ago, did I realize that it was bitter than I expected.  So, I wanted to get involved very much with to become a striker. I was home educated, so technically I couldn't strike, but I could still support the movement. And so, my mum got in touch with some ETSR people and we went down to London and they organized a protest for us. It was just more like maybe five or 10 people. And then, so that was like one of the first strikes in the UK. I'm a little striking, but yeah. And so, from then on, I sort of got involved in ETSR and in, yeah, I didn't really get involved in Fridays for the future much, but yeah, ETSR a lot more. So, they had a bridges action where they occupied the bridges in... That's right, I remember, yeah. And I wanted to... Well, my mum had earlier told me about some of the worst polluters, the factories which polluted the most. And I, well, she suggested that I would go to the headquarters and tell them to keep their fossil fuels in the ground. And so, I definitely wanted to go to that action. I mean, to do that action, because no one else was doing it. And we realised then that we were about to move to Germany. So, my mum was like, well, should we not do it? And I said, no, I still want to do it. And then, doing that bridges action, we found time to go and do some of the companies. And we got some people together to do it with me. And those were like some of the poor people in its central rebellion, the people who are now like some of the most well-known people in there. And so, I went up to Shell, MVP, and other such companies. And that's kind of where it all started. And then on, I got involved in XR in other ways and branded it such as... So, that's interesting. The initial focus was to challenge the fossil fuel companies directly ahead of then the broader sort of trying to disrupt society to bring attention to this. That's interesting. Did you see much response from those companies or indeed any response? No, so when I went up to some of the first companies that would either like, you're not allowed to film in here so we didn't get publicity or all those sorts of things and nothing really happened. And then before lunchtime on the first day, we went up to Shell. And they had some construction works going on and the guards outside said, no, you're not allowed to even go into the building. So with my small group of a few people, we stood out there for almost two hours trying to get them to let us in. And it was really cold. It was raining, I think. And we stood out there and we chanted songs. And yeah, that was really fun. And eventually someone came out and they brought me in to introduce me to the county chair, the country chairwoman of Shell. So that was a big one to get to meet her, but then it didn't go too well and obviously Shell was still going. So yeah, that was any of the last steps and the thing which I did. And the next day I went to BP and I said, well, basically it was like, it's always fun to talk to the guards outside because they often agree with you and stuff. And basically you stand out there.  And then the guard said, nope, you can't come in. Will you take someone else to me, to speak to me? No, no one's coming. We can't do that. Shell did it. Oh, wait, someone's coming. Oh, wow. You know how to play them against each other. Yeah, basically. So yeah, I got to talk to just a reporter, someone who talked to people, but obviously BP is also still going, so. Yeah, so I'm interested in that. Given how bad things are, how bad they're becoming, how little is changing despite such activism in the past, but also this new wave of activism, including young people, famously young people. What do you think we should focus on? What do you think is, what are the lessons that you've learned and you think people should pay attention to about how we should go about trying to create change now? Yeah, so not too long ago after the October rebellion, which was held by Extinction Rebellion, I left ETSR, and ETSR did an amazing job raising awareness and stuff, but it turned out that they did have some problems. I think it was definitely an amazing learning experience and stuff. So I think definitely, what to learn from all these movements is definitely, they've all raised awareness amazingly. And yeah, I think that was just like absolutely amazing, making people just at least think about these issues. And so one thing which I'm just going to continue using ETSR as an example, one thing which ETSR was doing was they were asking the government to do stuff, and the government has a huge history in not doing stuff. So basically, I personally don't think that it's done work very well. The government is doing to come up with lots of excuses. The government went so far as to declare a climate emergency, and that's not enough. That's just completely not enough, which means that I think that the government can only do so much in terms of actually creating some good change. And so I think ETSR only went so far. And I think one of its problems, possibly another, just like looking from another point of view is that, so basically think of it like this. So oppression is the cause of all these different things. Climate emergency, racism, sexism, adultism, when adults think they're better than young people, and disabilism, and all those things. So oppression is the cause of that. And what ETSR did is they said, we're going to look at the climate and ecological emergency. And just to say, as a point of view, why is this one the emergency? That's like a really big question. Oppression has been oppressing people in so many different ways. And now some white middle-class people come out and say, this one is the emergency now. We have to work on this one. So the growing tension started coming about in ETSR, whether it's better to, we must look at the climate and ecological emergency. This is an emergency, it's going to kill us all. It would be more not to just work on this one. And then the other people who say, we must look at the root cause of all these things. So we must look at oppression and look at it carefully. Otherwise we will get it wrong. And this growing tension turned into like some real problems within the movement and stuff. And then it started where it seemed like people who went into the movement and often were on the oppressed side, they thought that the movement wasn't right for them just because it seems like they were ignoring the fact that oppression had been going on for such a long time. It's really important that we don't ignore that obviously. And so that's another thing which went wrong. Can I just summarize just to see if I'm with you on this Elsie? So I think I'm hearing that you see the degradation, destruction of the environment and rapid climate change. This is really bad in themselves, but a symptom of systems of oppression which involve and exhibit racism, disabilism, sexism. And colonialism of course, and some people talk about patriarchy as being this big sort of bad thing that means that we kind of damage everybody and nature. This is the broader perspective that you have. And so then when you look at environment issues, environmental activism, you're wanting to see that general and holistic approach. And you felt that on occasion or maybe more than on occasion, it wasn't understood that way or it wasn't prioritized. And so that's fascinating to hear. So from that perspective, given that I'm white middle class and most of the people that I talk to through my professional work are white middle class in the West, what's important for us, people like me, you know, 47-year-old man speaking to a lot of those people that you've been talking about, what should we be thinking about? What should we be working on prioritizing? Who should we be listening to? Yes, so I think white middle class people definitely have what to do in terms of realizing that they're not always the right ones. So I think we definitely need to listen to people who are marginalized by society. So if you ask a rich person, like a really rich white man, what's wrong with society? They probably won't know compared to if you asked for example, a woman of color. So you've really brought to listen to these people and they've been going through struggles lots more than, so we're not the first struggle ever, definitely like at the present, like the first movement ever to do as they've done. And so definitely we need to listen to them and learn from them and their perspectives and stuff. And yeah, because they understand oppression more than we can ever understand. And I think that if we don't understand like the wider picture of stuff, it's true that we are probably going to get one. So yeah, I think we've definitely got a lot of work to do of like... Wow. So what you said there is really important, I think is that even if people like me try to understand, we just can't in the same way because we haven't got the life experience. And the implication there is that we need to support and certainly not get in the way. So it's a real, it's a question for people like me to keep thinking about how am I helping support plural, diverse voices on these issues, including when there are issues that I wouldn't prioritize because it's no good if white Western middle class people set the agenda and just try and open the door when it's convenient to us for people from different parts of the world at different ages to speak up. So that's really, thank you for that. Thank you very much. I was wondering also, then I think a big thing that's happened in climate recently. So I've worked on it since early 90s. And but what's happened in the last two years is that people are beginning to feel vulnerable in their own lives in the West, beginning to see that climate change is going to threaten them, disrupt their own lives. And but I was, I was wondering because some people say that that's really important to recognize that climate change is here. It's bad. It's dangerous. It's going to disrupt our own lives. And let's start working on that, including recognizing the emotions and so on. Other people say it's bad to talk like that. It's counterproductive. I was wondering how you look at, I mean, this is your future more than it is mine. I mean, so how do you look at the future when and when you see all these really, this really bad news and some people saying it's going to disrupt and even break down our way of life our societies. When I say our unconscious, I've still got this white, Western middle class hour in my head. So what do you say when you hear those sorts of debates? Yeah. So I think definitely, definitely like, you've got a point, like you can be step for yourself, but definitely do not ignore the fact that this has already been happening to other people. People have already been through this. It's hit other people already. And like, that's just like really important to not ignore and to take into account. I think definitely, it's good to keep that in mind and to learn from what they did, see what happened to them, and then make sure that you guess it right whatever you're doing. And to always, yeah, just keep in your mind that like you're not always going to be correct and didn't like what you're doing and you've always got to like listen to other people and what they've been doing too. Yeah. So that's really interesting. So the idea of this, if we're talking about adaptation to climate change or deep adaptation, it's to recognize that incredible irrevocable, that word, disruption to society, to people's livelihoods, way of life has already been happening because of climate change, because of environmental destruction and even before the current issue, you know, through colonialism and trashing of people's environment, stealing of their land, it's been happening for a long time and we should learn from the people who've been experiencing this and responding to this in their own lives. Yeah, that's really, really, really clear. Do you feel that the people that you talk to in the environmental or climate movements get that? Do you think they get that? Or is there a lot of work for people like you to do to invite that awareness? Yeah, I think definitely, like, I don't know, like every single person in the world personally, but obviously, I know, in, from ETSAR, there's a wide variety of points of view and I think definitely sometimes we do get it wrong as a white middle class person. We do get it wrong. So, what I mean by getting it wrong is, so, like, to take an example, like, for example, conservation. So, take conservation. Indigenous peoples have been keeping the ecosystem running and they're really important in it and they belong to their land and they should be able to sustain their land. But often, what white middle class people have been doing is they've been saying, oh, we're going to conserve this land, which means that you're going to have to leave it because we think that you're messing up the ecosystem.  They belong there and they can work it out and, you know, you shouldn't be able to take them away from their land and use conservation as an excuse to do so. So, bad things can definitely happen in these ways and, yeah, and I think it's really important that I believe that capitalism is not the best system at all and it really did it marginalizing people and making people feel excluded and oppressing people. Yeah, oppressing people. And so, like, basically, a lot of these white middle class movements which are popping up and stuff, they accidentally fall into asking for capitalist solutions. And so, even if it's our did get its demands, and even if it's our did get what wanted from the government, it would probably end up being a solution which doesn't actually provide a good solution for everyone in the world. It will only provide a good solution for, for example, the white middle class people in ATSAR and the white middle class people in government. So, we've got to make sure that we provide a solution for everyone and that it would have oppression instead of just getting rid of the problem Yeah, absolutely. If the cure is worse than, if the cure is from the same place as the disease, then all manner of problems. So, if we just say, okay, suddenly we're going to do as much as we can to solve or slow climate change, but it comes from that same oppressive colonialist dominator othering mindset and structures as well. As you've taught, you've mentioned capitalism. So, the same structures of power, then the policies that we'll come up with could cause a great deal of harm. So, yeah, that's really, really, really important message. And what I'm feeling a bit of shock Elsie at the moment because you say it so clearly and so easily, it's so damn obvious also. But we don't hear this all that much, certainly from what I'm hearing from climate leaders. So, yeah, I'm a bit like, wow, why are we not hearing more of this? I just want to mention to everyone who's on the call that please do send your message, your possible questions to Matthew, his thing, his questions here please, because I would like to throw it open to other people in a moment. I was going to ask though, Elsie, before we do that, how do you think adults might better support young people like you either on climate activism or just in preparing for this future that, you know, it's a difficult place to be an 11-year-old now with the awareness you have of the future, or at least it seems to me to be a difficult place, maybe I can learn otherwise. But yeah, how can we better support young people like you in general and on environment? Yeah, so just simply, like, it's not our fault that we were born into this crazy system and it's actually obviously the adult sport that they've let it happen, et cetera, et cetera, which means that I'm not saying that the climate strikes are wrong at all, like the fact that children did it, but I'm just going to say that as it's not our fault, how can we're the ones who have to strike and miss our education, you know, even if education is bad or whatever, like, have our lives, you know, have our lives have to be disrupt, more than adults do, because we're just willing to stand up and see the future clearly, more than adults are. It's their job to have to create a better future for us, really, you know, sure, we can lead, we can say, this is what you should be doing, how dare you not do it, whatever, but actually, definitely, it's the adults who are supposed to be doing it. So, yeah, I think definitely, I think, yeah, another thing for adults is definitely, like, children tend to have clear minds, to be honest, just because they haven't been influenced, literally have the time to be influenced by the system as much, which means that it's always important to include children in it, but not to make them do all the job and just say, like, yeah, you're going to change the world, you know, you can join the strike, too. Yeah, totally, so I'm absolutely fully concurred, because when I've talked to young people about this predicament we're in, there's a presence, a fullness of attention and creativity, like, this is how it is, okay, so what are we going to do? And when I talk to adults, there's a lot more baggage about how do I wish to feel about this, how does this fit with my existing responsibilities and my existing story about how I'm a responsible person? When I talk to young people, it's pure immersion in the issue and how do we creatively respond, so absolutely. And the second thing you said, absolutely, I can't bear it when people say, oh, you know, Jim, I believe in the future, because the young people are so different, they're going to fix everything. I'm like, come on! Their activism and their actions should put us to shame, not just say, oh, it's okay, they'll fix it. So yeah, absolutely. So we're going to move to questions now. Mary, you're 11, you're in the north of England and with your mum Harriet, you have a question for Elsie, please, over to you. Okay, so I'm 11 years old and I host a podcast about climate change, but recently I've been working towards loving the earth through winds into places I love. The charity is called Radical Joy for Hard Times and it's about knowing the wound of a place and feeling grief about the place, but loving it and making it act of beauty there. So I just want to say, have you done anything like this? Yeah, so on the point, just like the name of the word charity, just to say about charities, I think they're amazing, you know, they're going to like help the world in many ways. Yet, ideally, we would be saying, we're not going to like say, oh, poor people, you know, marginalized by society, all that sort of stuff. Instead we should be with them and not giving them stuff like they're below us and stuff. So I think like the way charity acts, sometimes gets a bit dodgy, you have to always be careful with that as in like instead of saying like, we're going to help the poor people in, for example, Africa or something, instead make sure that it's more like, we're going to be alongside them. Yeah, so I think I haven't, it's actually been involved in a charity much, I don't think, but in terms of that, but yeah, as I said, I have been involved in head signs a little bit in quite the sort of feature, but not really. What I'd be really interested in hearing from you, Elsie, and then also coming back to you, Mary, is this issue of the healing and the reconnection with nature in our own lives, in our own locations. So, and how that we can all do this in our own lives, in our own locations, this sort of, it's this idea that we're all hurting, we're all hurting from the damage that's being done to animals, to ecosystems, and to our own future, and to other humans as you've so wonderfully talked about, Elsie, in terms of the oppression of peoples around the world and even on our doorsteps. But this idea of reconnecting with nature and healing our own hearts, is that something that you think is a good idea and have you seen it? Do you think it's something that maybe could be integrated into climate activism by young people? Yeah, so I think definitely like healing our minds and stuff and getting closer to nature is definitely always a good thing to do and it will also end up probably helping us think clear about what to do otherwise. So I think, yeah, that's always a good thing to do and to get children into it, like in a young age is always obviously a fun thing to do anyway, to make sure that, you know, we don't get too disconnected from nature. Yeah, yeah, and Mary, I'll put a link to your podcast in the YouTube channel description as well. I really enjoyed you interviewing a Katie Carr facilitator with the Deep Adaptation Forum and it was a great interview. We're going to move on now to Eshna. Eshna, if you could say where you're joining us from and your question for Elsie or for Elsie's mum. Yes, so I'm assuming I'm unmuted now. I hope you can hear me. I apologize that it's a little bit dark in here yet. I'm talking to you from the foothills of the Sierra Nevada Mountains in California in what's called the Motherload Country. It was the old Gold Rush area, but I happened to be an enrolled member of the Croke Creek Sioux Nation in South Dakota. And all, all indigenous across the whole planet continue to suffer. And in point, and I love Elsie, that you were bringing up the fact that so many people are already facing, you know, the dismal conditions of what you have said, the root cause of oppression. And, and so, and then Gem, you're talking about suffering, you know, and that the Western developed world is sort of maybe becoming more aware of it because of the conditions now with COVID coming up. So my question has to do with oppression, this root cause. And have you thought very much about how this oppression or the suffering could be a better focus than just climate activism by itself and how this could, how we could actually bring this more to the fore because in point of fact, the majority of humanity is suffering very, very deeply. And, and I hope it's okay. That's a big enough question in itself. So I just wanted to thank Mary because it's really true, you know, in each location, you know, I don't care if you live in, in, in the middle of the city, there are little grasses growing through the cracks in the cement. And there's a consciousness there. So thank you. Thank you for bringing this point up. So I just wanted to acknowledge this, this beautiful action that you're doing. So thank you very, very much. Thank you. Wonderful. Yes. So just, just to acknowledge that I'm so completely with you as a native American, I'm so completely with you and keep fighting. So, yeah, on your point of like how a question can be more important, yeah, completely like, you know, the majority of people in the world are being oppressed because one reason or the other. I think definitely, I think definitely, yeah, climate and ecological breakdown is, again, just only a part of oppression, which means that, you know, to look at the wider picture will give us a wider picture of also climate and ecological breakdown. So I think, yeah, and because it's affecting already in a lot of ways, as like climate and ecological breakdown is also affecting people already, but oppression has been affecting people for so much longer as well.  I think definitely like it is a really important subject to look at and to work on as me as a, and you as a, everyone is like a middle class person. And yeah, it's really important that we work on oppression because, you know, it will also just like clear our minds of this like guilt and stuff, of like being probably on the oppressed side. And yeah, definitely like it's a really important subject to look at. Thank you. We've got a question from Katie. Yeah, hi, thank you. Elsie, I am so inspired by your energy and your clarity around your values, what you want, what you're able to do and the way in which you communicate that. And I see your mum there with you as well. And I'm guessing that your mum's love and support play a big part in you feeling empowered in the way that you do. So a big shout out for mum and a big shout out for mum's in general. And you've been talking a lot about privilege. And I feel a little bit like the kind, that kind of support and the ability to be so clear about taking action and what your values are is a kind of privilege itself. And I worked in schools and with children and young people for a long time and I've met lots of children who don't have that privilege, who might encounter the difficulties, the emotional difficulties and the practical difficulties of the climate crisis and just feel all at sea, you know, just lost and panicked. And they just want to look away from it the same as adults as well because they don't know what they can do. And I was wondering about other children and young people that you might know who might fit the description I just said or children and young people that you don't know. But who don't feel so sure about the actions that they can take and what your advice might be for them if where they find themselves is stuck in a place of fear and confusion which might lead to just wanting to look away from it. And also I guess that's the same question is advice for adults who do work with children who feel like that. Yeah. Yeah. Good question. By the way, I love the cat. So yeah. I think definitely loads of people are in this state of mind where they just think it's true that it's really hard to think about these things. And it brings up like feelings of guilt and stuff. And I'm aware that lots of people, even unknowingly, do these patterns of thinking that they are having enough power to do stuff. And definitely to them I'd love to say like, you know, you do have the power to make a change. And so you just say like we can never overthrow the government. We can never get rid of this capitalist oppressing system and all that sort of stuff. But basically like, I believe that the change obviously because it can come from above because, you know, obviously like it never has, then basically they never properly has. Then basically I think the next best thing is to work within our communities. So you just say, well, why don't we become prime minister or whatever? To say, well, yeah, that's a good idea. But how do you do that? Well, you're going to need lots of, well, in the case of the UK MPs and to even just become prime minister. And in that case, how do you become an MP?  It brings us back to the fact that we should be working locally all the time. And that's probably the best thing to do. So just to knock on someone's door or like to help someone out in maybe a COVID friendly way at the moment, then that will just create a really lovely small change which can make someone stay. And really for something like that, there's no way to say that you didn't win. Like the fact that you made someone happy, that's a win in itself. So that's just like, you know, the fact that you that you built some community and that you did all those sorts of things to be able to fight like bigger issues and stuff. And yeah, I think it's really important that you realize that like that in itself is a win and that that in itself is really important. Because even if that's how they've managed to get, for example, the citizens assembly, then part of the solution would end up being the whole community so that you can help each other when the sea rises, for example. So it's like, you know, everything comes back to the community and to just make the smallest of changes in the community is just a win. And it's so fun to what people you know and love. And that's important to hear because when we get scared with the latest environmental news, we can get a bit attracted to the the bold, the the ambitious, the we're going to change everything. And we must have a we must have a plan which matches the the challenge. And people argue loads over what's the best plan. What I've just heard from you, though, I think is as much it's as important, possibly even more, to focus on how how we are moment by moment. And and if we are making a positive difference in our small circle, then that's a win as well as hopefully adding up to something bigger. So that's really, really, really good to hear a reminder of that from you. We're going to have a question from Kimberly, please. Thank you, Jen. Thank you so much, Elsie. And again, as Katie said, completely inspiring. My question is, is I'd love you to say a bit about your emotional journey with all of this. You know, you strike me as as very happy, very upbeat as you should be. That's wonderful. But have you experienced periods of, you know, darker emotions, grief, sadness, etc? Yeah, so I think definitely like Niveenet's are in itself was like a hard time to realize just like that it had problems and the solutions have become as easy as that. And so yeah, definitely that was a hard time. But another thing to just say is that children just don't tend to have those feelings as much as adults do. You know, it's like, yeah. And yeah, again, like just the influence that the world has had on you to make you feel bad, like because you're most likely being oppressed one way or another. You know, you haven't had literally as much time to feel oppressed, which means that, yeah, you'll both have like a better point of view on like the world and stuff and as well, just like better feelings about the world. So yeah. Thank you. Yeah, I was, thanks. I was wondering your thoughts on, I mean, obviously a lot of children have experienced homeschooling for the first time in their lives because of the pandemic. But now, I mean, that may actually mean that people want different things from school teaching or more people thinking about homeschooling. What do you think? How do you think curriculum should be designed? And what do you think young people like you should be learning now, given the way the world is and what looks like is ahead because of climate disruption and also because of your values around anti-oppression? What should be being taught? So the school system, just to put it shortly, is completely broken and completely bad and is completely purpose to create a very small amount of actual people we feel empowered and people to make any type of change to become a leader of a company or do any big quote unquote job and important quote unquote job. Obviously, you know, it's not bad. So I think, so yeah, the system is completely broken and so just to give some background, I think that the purpose of the school system was to purposely influence native peoples to become part of the capitalist system. So the way it would work is, I don't know if it was like a painting or drawing or something, but there's a painting or drawing of like a white woman coming from the west, staring away the Native Americans and the wild animals fleeing her and she's like this huge woman and she's got the star of the empire here and then behind her comes white settlers and in her arm is a school book and so that is literally where it started and so the purpose of it was to like train like, you know, like Native Americans and people who are very much connected to the earth and not ingested otherwise in capitalism and, you know, all that sort of stuff, which the west economy was trying to put forward. So the purpose of it was to train them to become workers and to become more like the white west and not to give them stills to survive and stills to live and they took them away from their native cultures and stuff and they influenced them to become, you know, white middle class people basically or at least try, you know, most of them will end up like not actually getting a good education, which is actually important for anything. Most of them will just like go on to the work system, which obviously doesn't really accomplish much, isn't that fun? Yeah, you want to see a very big, big change, a change in not just bits and pieces, not just some subject areas, but a change in the philosophy of education, the change in the intention of education. Yeah. And yeah, I feel that and I share that with you a lot and from all ages all the way through university as well. So thank you. We got a question from Brian, if you say where you're calling in from as well, please Brian. And we can't hear you, Brian. And if you can't hear you, how good. Got me now. Okay. Hi, I'm calling from Indiana, United States. And I am the dad of two young boys, two and six. And in you, I see great courage and resistance. And I'd like to foster that in them. And so I see this five, you know, pivotal years between the age of my older boy now and your age at 11. And I wonder what tips would you have for me as a, you know, young dad to help foster that resilience? How do I bring these questions and these issues to them at these younger ages? And is there an age when you really felt like you were ready to engage with these kinds of questions? Or is it more like a gradual process? Thanks, Brian. I'm also going to say that Heather, if you also want to tip in on this as well. Okay, Elsie. Yeah, so just saying like, definitely like, one of the main things would just be to like empower them and help them with whatever they want to do. If they're saying, I don't actually want to focus on planet activism, I want to focus on racism, sexism, more oppression, or something else, you know, that's their choice.  And I think that's definitely like a very key element. I think definitely you have anything to add? I would say modeling, modeling, having an attitude that's, we are powerful. And I follow a particular parenting philosophy since before she was even born. It's hand in hand parenting, if you want to giggle that. And it's all about making sure that young people have a chance to express their emotions and be fully human. Don't shut them down in any way. Home education, although I don't formally home educator, it's unschooling. So it's just kind of following her brain where it wants to go. But modeling in the background that I know that I'm powerful and that if I see a problem, I go out there and try to fix it. And so she's been raised with that in the house. And yeah, finding out what she's interested in and then facilitating her being able to do that. So I think Brian, at this point, it isn't so much the subject, but the being able to listen to our children and take their lead in whatever they want to be doing and being completely relaxed and as best as we can and modeling that we're very hopeful and empowered ourselves. Thank you. Also maybe on this, Mary's mum Harriet, if you want to share your thoughts on this too. Hi. Oh yeah, just listening to you Heather, it's absolutely what I would say as well. Elsie and Mary are only a few months apart. Last year, especially Mary went through quite significant and intense anxiety that lasted quite a few months and I went through the whole gamut of feeling the grief that I was the one bringing this to her awareness that I didn't want to hold back from telling her the sort of the scientific stuff and all of that and having to sort of get myself out of the way and really listen to what she needed to hear as guidance and so that was actually why the podcast was set up and from that we just met so many amazing people with such wisdom and it was such a gift and yeah, so it's just absolutely just wanted to reiterate what you've just said which is the children look to us for everything and it's a parent thing, you know having those daughters of that age. It's 1430. Oh, that's Siri. You know, having a...  And just being mothers of children of this age, really paying attention what's going on, all of the stuff that's coming up and it's just really, really holding you in your role, Heather. Wonderful. Thank you Harriet. Thank you. Well, we've got time for one very quick glass question from Madis. Madis, say where you are and questions for Elsie please. Hello, I'm from Estonia and thanks for this excellent episode today and there's a question for Elsie. So given that you have achieved so much already and done so much already and given that you said that you have found this community to be a very, very crucial point or endpoint to raise resilience, are you planning to establish deep adaptation kids? You probably, she doesn't probably know much about deep adaptation, so she wouldn't but maybe for Jen's community.  Believe it or not everybody, I don't go around telling everyone what deep adaptation is all the time. And so I will send it to Heather and Elsie and let's see. I mean it would be brilliant to have you on board, involved Elsie and Heather in what's becoming a fascinating international conversation and movement of initiatives of all kinds. For me, your analysis is very compatible. For me, a creative, wise, compassionate, just response to the climate tragedy is all about questioning, power, challenging oppression and making sure that we don't replicate the abuses that brought us into this situation in the first place. So I think there's strong resonance with everything you said today. Elsie, I just want to say Eshna has left a message in the chat. She's inviting us to mark the world peace and prayer day with Chief Aval looking horse, 18th to 20th of June and it's linked with International Children's Month. You know I didn't even know there was an International Children's Month, so thank you Eshna for that information. Thank you everyone for joining. I've had a very enjoyable and inspiring hour with you Elsie. So thank you very much for joining and thank you Heather also for making this possible. If everyone un-mutes and says bye-bye, that would be lovely. Bye. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. 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Welcome to Design at Home. I'm Emily, an educator at Cooper Hewitt Smithsonian Design Museum. Today we're going to talk about textile designer Suzy Zuzek, look at examples of her beautiful intricate pattern designs, and learn how to design a repeating pattern on our own at home. Suzy Zuzek was an accomplished prolific textile designer well known for her colorful beautiful pattern designs, which are most recognizable in the form of fashion sold by Lily Pulitzer from 1962 to 1985. Zuzek studied textile design and illustration at Pratt Institute in Brooklyn, New York, graduating at the top of her class, and worked for three years designing fabrics in New York before moving to Key West, Florida. In Key West, she began working at Key West Hand print fabrics, a silk screen printing company. The company quickly attracted its first major client in Lily Pulitzer, who was enchanted by the Zuzek designs she discovered there, and began buying textiles there for her shift dresses and other styles. Zuzek's pattern designs take inspiration from nature as well as art and other visual sources. Her subjects included abundant florals, underwater scenes with fish and shells, and stylized depictions of animals from near and far. She understood that her designs would be viewed from a distance as an overall pattern, as well as enjoyed up close, and more details are revealed as you look closer. Zuzek's imaginative prints made Lily Pulitzer simple sportswear styles unique and immediately recognizable. Pulitzer's fashions, featuring Zuzek's prints, were worn by such notable people as First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy. Keeping in mind Zuzek's wonderful patterns, let's jump in now to our design challenge. Our challenge today is to design a repeating pattern that is inspired by nature. You may find inspiration in your home, looking at your house plants or your pet, or even into your fruit or vegetable drawer. You can also look outside your window to see if you find inspiration there, or think about a period of nature that means a lot to you. Let's start by gathering our materials. To design today, we will need a piece of paper, a pen, or pencil, and if you'd like to add color, you can find something that will help you to do this. I'm using watercolor paints, which is a tool that Susie Zuzek also used in her designs. And finally, in order to make your repeating pattern, you will need tape and scissors. Okay, now we're ready to begin. The steps to creating a repeating pattern are up on the screen. I'm going to go through this with you step by step. To get started, grab your piece of paper, pen, or pencil to draw with and an object of inspiration if you have one. I used a lemon. Take as much time as you need to draw your initial pattern. Don't worry about making your pattern repeat. Our later steps will create a repeat from what you draw. When your initial drawing is done, you cannot color. I'm using paint, but you can also use markers, crayons, pastels, or colored pencils. Keep adding color until your drawing is complete. Using a pair of scissors, cut your drawing in half lengthwise. For the most precise cut, you can first use a ruler to find and mark the halfway point. Switch the two sides so that the right side is now on the left. Using tape, attach the two pieces like this. Be sure to tape the back, not the front of your design. Now make another cut, cutting the paper in half widthwise. Again, switch the pieces so the piece that was on the right is now on the left. Tape the two pieces together in this new configuration. Be sure to tape on the back. After putting these pieces together, you'll likely have an empty space in the center of your page. Fill this in now with drawing similar to your initial design. Don't forget to add color here as well. When you finished, you have the final product. As we're all designing our own patterns, your product will look different from mine. Here are a few other examples of pattern designs up on the screen. We should now all have our finished pattern design. Now that we've finished this design and we've created a repeating pattern, this can be used to print on something like fabric, even a t-shirt, or a tote bag for example. We would love to see what you've designed if you or an adult would like to share it with us on social media. To share what you've designed, please use the hashtag Smithsonian EDU. Thank you so much for tuning in. We hope that you'll also keep your eye out for the upcoming exhibition at Cooper Hewitt featuring Susie Zuzek and her pattern designs. For more ways to experience design at home, head over to our website or check out our page on the Smithsonian Learning Lab. Thank you and we'll see you next time. Bye.


This is the SF Productions podcast network It's Oscar cleanup and googling with the stars And I'm mark you can check out our audio podcast how I got my way three comics on iTunes or on our website SF podcast network comm So we recently gave our Oscar predictions. Yes, so that was based on not watching any exactly that's our role It's all based on hype So how'd we do well in supporting actress? We both picked we agreed our cat and she was the winner In supporting actor. We both went with JK Simmons. He was the winner In animated feature, we both went with how to train your dragon to and it was big hero six And it should have been the Lego and it should have been the Lego movie Original song I picked glory and I picked everything is awesome because I wanted the Lego movie to win something right Unfortunately, it was glory because they had to give something to Selma. Exactly and Director we both picked link later and it was in a re2 For bird man big winner for the night exactly Actress we both picked Julianne Moore, and it was in fact Julianne Moore In actor I picked Eddie Redmayne and you picked Michael Keaton the only award that That birdman didn't win right exactly and it was in fact Redmayne So the final total was five to three and I won that one So the other categories that we didn't mention were ones that neither one of us picked right right? Yeah Okay, so meanwhile The cast of the next season of Dancing with the Stars was announced. I thought we were hitting the bottom of the barrel before I Literally had to Google some of these Celebrities well find out who they were I think six out of the the eleven that they actually announced were ones that I knew who they were That's about what I as one of them They didn't announce like I like the dancing and everything but at this point I'm not watching it for these stars. No, no you're watching for the pros for the pros And you know it's like I could skip through all the you know horrible dancing by the the Star Now We've discussed this before but the show has come up pretty much with several checkboxes for their casting There's athletes There's Disney stars, which is synergy with ABC. There's an ABC soap star also is synergy There's reality show stars. There's a controversial star There's a comeback star for nostalgia purposes and one or more ringers Ones who are actually professional dancers That may not be what they're best known for but they are professional dancers And we have a new category disabled. Yes Now a few pros didn't actually return this season Cheryl Burke after 18 seasons did not come back Yeah, I think she was tired of getting stuck with the yeah People who had no chance no chance and Karina Smirnoff who was on seasons three through nine and then 11 through 19 Yes, so almost as long and one pro returned it shouldn't have I thought we finally got rid of Derek Huff You know it just seems to me He said he wasn't gonna come back right and at this point really he has more fans than anybody else And he's won more times because they always give him the good dancer, right? Right the ringer and I suspect some of the other pros only signed up because Derek Huff wasn't gonna be there and now they're kind of screwed So let's go our go through the predictions on how far each team is actually gonna go We started with Noah Galloway Teamed up with pro Sharna Burgess He's known for being a disabled vet and a motivate motivational speaker I think based on the fact that he has a compelling storyline We both put him very high I put him in the second slot so the runner-up position and I said the third slot and Mainly that's because of the two people that I put ahead of him. Okay Robert Herjavec Who is partnered with Kim Johnson who's coming back to the show? She would actually she went off to be a one of the Judges for the Australian version of the show and now she's back Known for shark tank, so he's one of the sharks. Yes Be both considered that them pretty low in the set.  Yeah, I just think he probably has too much other stuff to keep him busy that he won't you know, right? Really? I don't know Next is Patti LaBelle and his and her partner Ardham Chignis F. I'm gonna give it that yeah something like that Ardham Ardham Was actually there I liked him on previous season, you know, so of course, she's known for being a singer We kind of Flopped flip-flopped on this I put her dead last.  She's got to have some She's got musicality She's got to have some kind of stamina to do performances, right? So I think that she should be able to make it through at least a couple weeks But I do think her age will catch up with her and she's of course one of the comebacks Yes, that check box Nastia Lucan who's pro who pro is Derek Huff She's an Olympic gymnast. So of course she's gonna win. Yeah, because The floor routine in gymnastics is dancing. Yes She's a dancer. Yeah, plus she will train very hard because she's an Olympian plus the Derek factor So the only thing that could throw a wrench into this is if she gets injured she gets injured unless she gets injured That's that's your pretty much mortal lock on the winner right there, and we both that's what we're guessing Riker Lynch whose pro is Allison Holker and he's known for being a singer He's known for glee and he's known for being in a Disney show So there's the Disney synergy checkbox there and if you go and look at his Wikipedia page He's an American singer-songwriter musician actor and dancer and He's a cousin. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, by the way to the huffs.  She's best known for the most recent Super Bowl ad for Carl's Jr. Yeah I Put her pretty low at number nine. You put her in the middle of the pack number six. Yeah I just don't think she will train all that well that well Well, you might not have anything else to do. That's true You got a point we then have Red Foo and He was a guest judge. Yeah, his his pro is Emma Slater He's known for as far as I'm concerned being a one-hit wonder and So I put him somewhere in the middle of the pack at number eight and you put him farther down Number 11 I think the first week he'll get carried through just on the fact that he was a guest judge Right, but I think after that he'll get eliminated But I'm thinking Emma Slater is getting a bit of a following as well and that's why I put I put him a little higher. Okay. Basically. She would carry him through a little later in the competition Michael Sam whose pro is Peter Murgatroyd. He's the first openly gay NFL player um, we put him pretty high because Athlete He's an athlete now. We've been fooled by football players before Right. They either they either flame out immediately or they do very well. They rarely are in the middle. Yeah, uh, and so we both put him We like pita, right? Yeah, and I think she has Following as well. So put him pretty high put him at third third place and I went fourth. Yeah Willow Shields whose partner is mark ballas She's known for the hunger games and is 14 years old inappropriate musical number from mark ballas in three two one Yeah Well, you know that's going to happen and it happened very early And you know, I think depending upon the judges that that could eliminate her fairly quickly. I I think that And I think rightly they should be fairly uncomfortable seeing a 14 year old dancing with what is effectively a middle-aged man Yes An inappropriate attire. Yes Inromantic dances romantic dances. I I don't think this is a good idea at all Well, I'm I'm giving her a little bit more of the benefit of the doubt. I said fifth and you said eight. Yes Suzanne summers whose pro is tony dovelani best known of course for threes company another one of the comebacks Um, I don't think uh, she'll do very well.  So Rumor willis Whose pro is val chimerkovsky Basically known for having famous parents. Yes Uh, we put her right in the middle seventh and fifth place And basically the only reason she's there is so they're hoping that bruce and or demi will be in the audience Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's it. That's the only reason she's there And then there's the wild card. Whitney Carson the pro He has a partner who's unknown Because he couldn't rose to the oh, I mean rise. Yeah. Yeah when they announced it it made it pretty clear It's going to be the winner or the bachelor. Well, it's the bachelor. The bachelor. Yes. Yeah And so he's best known for the bachelor. Yeah, I would assume that's what is now Um, I I think it's probably the current bachelor Not one of the previous ones just because he couldn't be there, but they've left their options open there Haven't they? Yes, they certainly have. Um, although it does have to be a man Right, but yeah, but this but the disney center disney abc synergy says it's going to be the current bachelor Yes, because they've done this before they just slide them right off like immediately like the last episode and onto this Yes, just continue on in the reality shows I I put in the middle of the pack. He you know But again It's luke and unless she gets hurt. Yes pretty much I don't see how that's otherwise and They really need to move Derek needs to become a judge Or move from the show entirely. Yes, and he's going to be flying back and forth Yes from new york to california weekly because both of them because he's doing Choreography for something right, but but they're both going to train in new york So they're going to fly For like one day a week to go and do the show and then come back because they're both in new york So, you know that could be a wearing factor, but I don't think I doubt it. I really doubt it But you know, we'll be watching dancing and maybe even updating you on it here So you don't have to watch And maybe if you don't watch then we won't you know No, no, no, but you can check out our radio podcast how I got my wife to read comics on itunes or on our website sfpodcastnetwork.com from the pop culture bunker. I'm indy and I'm mark. Thanks for watching. Bye. Bye. Bye


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Hi everyone, Joe for jatsby's casebrades.com with a fun break right here 2019-20 Panini NT National Treasures Basketball. One box from a fresh case, random player break number nine. So pretty awesome stuff right there. One spot gets you five random players each. There you go. And there's an early bird special right here too, and there's the whole player list right there. So it's 350 players total, right? But if the entire case was filled with Zion's and you get the Zion spot, the whole box would be yours. All right, so there you go. Now here is the first, oh those are the players right there. There's the first 30 right here. Let's copy all those names, and you'll have a chance to add an extra spot. So that's a different dice roll. I said 30 right? Yeah. So let's roll it. Let's randomize it 12 times, six and a six, full 12 times. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, and twelve, and final time. After 12 times, the early bird catches the worm, and it's gonna be, good luck, Josh, there you go. I think he had, he certainly had the odds, some odds with him. There you go, man. Congrats to you. There you are. Let's grab that, put your name in here. Okay, so now the player list, I just want to show you the player list right there. 350, right? So I'm just gonna do it on the spreadsheet so you can see the number. There's one, two, three, four, and five. So that should be 350. Boom, perfect. There you go. So now let's copy everyone's name here, and then we'll use sheet number one, that tab right there, to determine which player you're gonna get. Let's get the player list as well. We'll put it all in that first tab right there. Let's roll it, let's randomize it, three and a six, nine times for each list. One, two, three, seven, eight, and ninth and final time. After nine, we've got Christopher all the way down to chat. All right, three and a six, nine times for the players. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, and ninth and final time. After nine, make sure I did that right, three and a six, nine times. You don't want to screw up on on this. Moses Malone all the way down to Kevin Love, especially when 350 names to deal with here. Let's paste that here. So I'm just gonna show you the list as is, and then I'll alphabetize by your first names and share the spreadsheet with you so you can see you can see exactly who you got. So there's the first group right here. Just keep scrolling down that list, and this is mostly so we can get this on the video, on the recording, and so if you want to re-audit this list or something like that, you can always have this, you can always press pause. A lot of great stuff in there. Did we see who had Zion's? I wasn't even paying attention. A couple combo players too in here, I think. All right, now since we have all that, let's alphabetize by your first names, column A. So Aaron, there are your players right there, Brian. We'll go through the list again. Kailin, if you're watching this video, you can obviously fast forward through this part. Chad, Chan, Chris, and LeBron James, could be interesting. Corey, Daniel, Daniel L, David, Douglas, Jason, Joseph, that's Joey. Josh, a lot of players for Josh. Nice, good luck. Here are your early bird players right here. There's Kevin, Matthew Shearer, some combo players, Richard F. I want to make sure everyone can see their names here. Robert and we'll go back, we're going to pause the video to it a little bit, and we'll go back to the names and teams, or names and players, in case you missed it the first time. Shea, Sumin, Steven, and there you go, and that's the end right there. So, the guys are saying Zion? Yeah, there you go, Brian Croft, with Zion, and it's Matthew Shearer with Morant. What about, what else? Kobe White, Robert Runkel, I mean, who knows, a lot of players in this set that you can have. All right, so we're going to pause the video and when we come back, we're going to see if there's any trades, and then we'll have the break. Stick around, be right back. Should be a good one. All right, welcome back folks. There were no trades, so that list that we saw over here remains the same. So good luck once again, everybody. Thanks for getting in, really appreciate it. What I'm going to do now is I'm going to sort by column B by player names, so I can spot these player names a lot more easily right here. So, Brian Croft, of course, still has the Zion right there, and John Morant, of course, will still go to Matthew Shearer, I believe, had the had the John Morant. There he is, among others. All right, so good luck. Let's pop open this fresh case right here. I didn't know we had another case of this right here. So you can see right here, it says 2020, right, but it's really 1920 NT basketball. It's just a one-box break, so it's a really quick break, but we've got another one-box break up on the site right now if you want to run this back. All right, so you can see on the on the top camera right there, one, two, three, four. That's what I'm going to roll. One, two, three, or four. If I roll a five or a six, we'll just roll again. And it's two. So it's the second box down, that one. All right here, and this we will save for next time. So we'll put, you can see those X's right there. We'll put X's right there so we all, so we know it's, they're all from the same case. All right, so now let's pop this guy open and see what we got. Good luck. We've got Lakers, Denver game three right now, the tied at 12 in the first quarter. We've got a blockchain card on the bottom, and that is going to be Dylan Winnler, rookie patch autographs, horizontal Dylan Winnler going to Cleveland. No, not Cleveland. This goes to some random player break. He's on, he's on Cleveland though. Dylan Winnler, where are you on my list here? That goes to Robert Runkel and Dylan Winnler. Nice. Plenty of time to redeem it as well. This blockchain world I haven't really gotten into, but I think there is value on the secondary market for a lot of these players. There are enough people into it. All right. 55 out of 99, Spencer Dinwitte, Brooklyn Nets, Spencer Dinwitte. Who's got Spencer? Spencer Dinwitte, that will be not on this list. No, that's not possible. Some of these base card, all right. No, he's not on this list. So this will be randomized to one person in the break, along with any other names that aren't on the list. But I'm sure it's just going to be that. Oh, maybe this. Forgot about the one per box plate, Nikola Vusevich. Oh, he's got, I thought I saw his name. He's got to be in here. He is in here. Sean Maddock with Nikola Vusevich. There you go from that noir set, which is really cool. So Sean, all aboard the Big Head Express. 10 out of 49, Michael Porter, Jr. Relic. I think he's in, he's in action against my Lakers right now. Michael Porter, Jr. That goes to Matthew Shearer. Nice. 9 out of 10, Charles Barkley, Sixer's Edition, Retro Relic. Sir Charles goes to Chris Slaughter with the Charles Barkley spot. Game used right here. Nice. And we've got Jersey and Autograph, Andre Miller. 11 out of 99, lasting legacies, Jersey and Auto. Andre Miller will go to Robert Runkel. There you go, Robert. Next up, Pacers, Malcolm Brogdon. 4 out of 99, Malcolm Brogdon. I know for sure Malcolm's on this list. Joey with Malcolm Brogdon. There you go, Joey, on the board. There you go. Next up, 50 out of 99, Nikhil Alexander Walker, Apprentice, Inc. Autograph. There you go. That'll go to Josh, Joshua E with the Nikhil Alexander Walker. We've got an RPA of this guy, Kyle Guy, 9 out of 49, three color patch and Autograph. Let's see who has Kyle on my list here. Kyle Guy, Matthew Sheeran with that guy. And then these must be two relics right here. Yes, some box have two relics on the bottom. 97 out of 99, Carleton Towns Relic. This wild cat is going to go to David Ross. Game, more materials, pretty cool. And then we've got Devon Booker. Nice. 35 out of 99, the Devon Booker Relic. We'll go to Kim Soo Min. Nice. And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Not too shabby and let's randomize that Spencer didn't witty card as well. So let's use the original. We're going to use the original 70 spot list instead of that massive 350 spot list. So let me go. Well, first of all, we need some dice right here. Actually, that original list will be right here. We'll be from there all the way down to the early bird spot right there. All right, so name on top after 12 Ram.org. Name on top after 12 will get the Spencer didn't witty base card. There you go. Two, three, four, five, six, seven and 12. And final time, it's going to be Josh. There you go, Josh. After 12, you're going to get that extra Spencer didn't witty base card. And there you have it, folks. Another one box break in the store. Check it out on Jasper's case breaks dot com. Thanks for watching. Thanks for breaking with us. I'll see you next time. Bye.


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Frontier Town, the saga of the Roaring West. Ah! Frontier Town. El Paso, Cheyenne, Calgary, Tombstone. Frontier Town. Here is the adventurous story of the early West. The tamed and the untamed. From the Pekos to Powder River, Dodge City to Poker Flat. These are the towns they fought to live in and lived to fight for. Teaming crucibles of pioneer freedom. Frontier Town. Ever hear of Dos Rios? Well, it's a saddle-stop cow town, smack dab south and east of Denver, and sprawls boisterously across the frontier. I live in Dos Rios. I'm the one and only lawyer there. Name? Chad Remington. Well, lawyer or no, in that frontier country, there's always something going on, something mighty interesting, and Doggone near always dangerous. Or not just rustlings and bank hold-ups, stagecoach and mail car robberies. Part of the time, our troubles come from what we lawyers might call our duly elected officers. Just a few weeks back, over in another little frontier town called... Here I am, getting ahead of myself, and I guess I better be starting from the beginning. After all that had been happening, I decided to take a day off, get the judge's daughter Libby to pack some sandwiches and ride out to the painted rim-rock country with me. Well, we'd had a nice ride, good lunch, and Libby and I were... We were talking things over. I don't know about June, Chad. It's... what's so soon? Doggone at Libby, with me, it's the sooner the better. It isn't as if this is going to come as a surprise to your father and I... Uh-oh. Now, look who's coming. Wait, who is that, Chad? Is it Cherokee? It's the old man and himself in the flesh. And it's just gold pieces to go for hauls. He's not out riding just to exercise one of those horses from his livery stable. Wait a minute. Hey, Cherokee, over here. Jesus, what do you think he wants? I sure don't know. I paid him two months in advance for that office I ran from him up over his table. Easy there, Gladys. Oh, I knew I'd find you two lolling at some romantic dell. Old girl. Well, if you knew it, did you have to come out to prove it? Having two people to ride to commune with nature? My dear Miss Libby, you can continue communing with nature. Because if I say so myself, I am one of nature's noblemen. Yes, indeed. Oh, go on, Mother Nature probably ran you out of the house years ago for peddling that rattlesnake oil of yours. What's up, Cherokee? Why'd you come out here in heels over leather? Because my cherubic counselor, a telegram, arrived for you. And since old Hank at the Western Union office said it was important, I thought I'd hit the saddle and try to find you here. Thank you. Excuse me, Libby. Well, this doesn't sound so good. What doesn't sound so good? What did the telegram say? I don't know if you remember Bill McCarty over at Medicine Creek. I'm sure your father does. McCarty? Isn't he the tax collector over in Comanche County? Yeah, but he's not the county collector. He's a local tax collector for Medicine Creek. The telegram's from Bill. From the little he says here, it looks as if he might need some legal advice. Legal advice, I'll bet. Any time anyone sends you a telegram, they don't want legal advice. They're looking for two-fisted help. Listen to the man. Chad, would you mind telling me what it's all about? Why should the tax collector in another town in an entirely different county suddenly telegraph to you? I can't tell much from what he's wired. Having filed a telegram at the Medicine Creek office, apparently Mr. McCarty was a little more than a wee bit cautious. But if I can read between the lines, Bill's mixed up in some sort of political shenanigans that involve the mayor of Medicine Creek. Politicians, those I've met, not counting the sheriffs, rangers and marshals, have been even more deceitful than the third-rate medicine man. Well, you should know, Cherokee. Uh, as a first-rate medicine man, Cherokee, and the owner of a second-rate livery staple, would you be inclined to lend me a horse and ride over to Medicine Creek with me? That I would! That I would! But, Chad, we were talking about, well, you know, now you want to pick up and I guess I just don't understand men. Libby, I guess you understand one man a little too well. And he thinks as sooner we get started, the sooner I'll get back to have that little heart-to-heart talk with your father. So I'm all for packing up and getting started today. Well, sir, as it turned out, it was a good thing I didn't postpone my trip. The truth of the matter is, as it turned out, it was too darn bad I couldn't have gotten started a day earlier. Because while Cherokee O'Bannon and I were leaving streamers of red dust behind our pounding horses, the stage was being set in Medicine Creek for the big blow off. As we feasted together later at the mayor of Medicine Creek, the honorable Richard E. Dalegood had sent for his tax collector, Bill McCarty, and exploded his bombshell. Now is that clear, Bill? Mayor, do you realize what you're doing?  McCarty, I had you appointed as tax collector because I felt you were one man interested in seeing Medicine Creek grow. Man alive, that takes money. Well, of course it takes money, but tripling the taxes isn't going to raise money. All it'll raise is trouble, maybe killings. You know what a bad season the cattlemen have had. McCarty, either you collect those taxes or I'll have you impeached for malfeasance in office. Impeach and be hanged. Gone, haul me into court. But I think when you realize what I'll tell that jury, it'll be you they'll impeach and not me. There are a few other things I could tell a jury.   Do I? Well, I'm afraid any story I tell a jury would be thoroughly convincing. You'd better be leaving, McCarty.  By you. You... Good morning, Mr. Mayor. And goodbye. Well, well, well. I wonder who I can appoint tax collector after your funeral, McCarty. Somebody who'd at least appreciate the way we'd... Crone, what are you doing in my office? Well, Mr. Mayor, you handled our tax collector very nicely. Confounded, Crone. What are you thinking in my office through the back door? Well, I'll tell you, Your Honor, I saw McCarty go into the Western Union office this morning and send a telegram. Then when I saw him heading for your office, I just thought I'd come in through the back and listen to what he had to say. Well, I told you what would happen. You heard McCarty. He refuses to go through with it. Yeah. I heard him. I heard you, too. Heard me? What do you mean? I'm accusing McCarty of bushwaking Ralph Osborne.  If a jury really started to investigate Ralph's death, it might be me they'd build a scaffold for. And if they build it for me, my friend, they'd build another alongside of it. For you. I knew I should never let you jockey me into a spot. Now, if McCarty talks to the ranchers and I'm not to pay the new taxes, everything I've spent two and a half years working for will be blown away like so much tumbleweed. Your Honor, you're absolutely right. But I have a feeling that Medicine Creek is badly in need of a municipal reorganization. And to start with, you'd better appoint a man to replace our tax collector.  Oh. But how can they believe his story, Mayor? I mean, did you ever hear of a dead man talking? Or now don't you go to any trouble, Mrs. McCarty. Cherokee and I can wait until Bill gets home. We're not that hungry. Well then, Mr. Remington, can I fix you something to drink? Mrs.  What would you like? Tea? But, well, Cherokee, aren't you going to answer the perspicacious lady? Tea? All reflecting, my dear Miss McCarty, I've decided that perhaps Ted is right. I think it might be best if we wait until Mr. McCarty returns home. Yes, I do. Well, you're not going to have long to wait, you see. Comes Bill now, just riding over the ridge of that here. He certainly looks well, doesn't he? Yeah, he looks well enough, considering, but all this grief the mayor has been giving Bill has certainly done him wrong. Well, he blew blazers, Chad. Did you hear those shots? I sure did, Cherokee. Come on. Bill McCarty's been blasted plum out of his saddle. All right, Cherokee, help Mrs. McCarty off a horse. Chad is Bill. He was gone before he hit the ground. Those filthy killers. Those deady, sneak and coyotes. They didn't even give him a chance to fight back. Well, I'll fix them. I'm going down and blast that no-good crooked gambler myself. Gambler? That's what I said, gambler. That thieving crook called Krohn. He's the one who's behind the mayor. Now, just a minute. No situation like this has ever cured by another killer. What's more, you have no way of knowing who caused this Krohn or anyone else in Medicine Creek who drags ghosts to your husband. Don't say that. Who else could it have been? Must have been that gambler. Cherokee, I think you'd better help Mrs. McCarty back on a horse. Anything you say, Chad. Come on, Mrs. McCarty. Good go.  All right, Cherokee. I'll give you a hand. Look, if you're right about this, Mrs. McCarty, we'll find out soon enough. When we do, I've got an idea I'm going to deal myself into this game. Except I'll be using my own deck. Every card marked with a cross we can put on his grave up on Boot Hill. We'll return to the exciting second act of our Frontier Town adventure in just about one minute. Frontier Town. Well, you can see now what I meant when I said it was too blame-bad Cherokee and I didn't get to Medicine Creek a day earlier. Bill McCarty gunned down in cold blood almost at the doorway to his ranch. And Bella McCarty bills widow hysterically furious and despite everything Cherokee and I could say vowing she'd avenge her husband's brutal murder. However, while Leo Brannon and I were doing everything we could to quiet and soothe Bella McCarty down at the mayor's office, an entirely different kind of scene was taking place. A fine lot of good you did getting rid of McCarty. Now, believe me, Crone, there isn't a landowner in the whole district who isn't seen red. My, my, Mr. Mayor, a man of your perception is worthy of real political ambitions. How skillfully you keep your finger on the public pulse. That's enough, you cheap tinhorn. Well, I must acknowledge that since tinhorn is a synonym for gambler, you may be right.  You keep on like you're going and this whole town is gonna have an election. We'll not only elect us a new tax collector, we'll elect a new mayor. Now, now, now, now, look here, Carl. There's no reason to go losing your temper at me. All right, I suppose you just listen. Don't you think I know the ranchers are up in arms? Well, that's exactly what I want. What you want? You bet.  Why, they wouldn't dare. We could throw every one of them in jail and by the time they got out again, they wouldn't have any more ranches left than her porcupine-ass feathers. Well, well, well.  So I'm finally getting some sense. But don't you think some of those ranches are going to get some sense, too? What have I? All you have to do is sit here in this office. The taxpayer is furnished so nicely for you and keep your eyes glued on that safe I loaned you because, Mr. Mayor, with the help of a few of my friends, it isn't going to be very long before that safe so crowded with green backdrop it'll take a 20-mule team to move it. Certainly, Crow knew what he was talking about. He had several friends in Medicine Creek, notably one gunslammer known as Baldi, and another disreputable maverick who, for the time being, was using the name of Quirt. Well, despite everything Cherokee and I could do, McCarty's widow called a meeting of most of the taxpayers in and around Medicine Creek, and that's when Baldi and Quirt started sowing the seeds Mr. Crow wanted planted so badly. Sure, I'm right. There ain't no law, no place. It says we got to let that Mayor bleed us to death. Folks, Baldi's telling the truth. We're the citizens. We're the taxpayers. And when all's said and done, it's us who makes the laws. So I say if we got to have some new laws around Medicine Creek, let's make them with Winchester's and Sixth Guns. That's right. Well, well, Mrs. McCarty, don't you realize what you're doing? You'll never get any place with mob law. You don't have to pay taxes around here, Chad. So why don't you just keep out of this? That's what I say. Well, how about it, neighbors? Are we going to organize the Taxpayers' Protective League? That's it. Now you're talking. By the beard of St. Patrick, if he had one, have you folks all been out in the pasture eating local weed? Be sensible. Listen to Chad Remington. Do you think I'm enjoying this? Bill McCarty telegraphed me to come over and lend a hand. And now, more than ever, that's what I intend to do. If there's something wrong with the tax rates, you've got courts over here to... Look, Mr. Big Brain, you keep out of this. Yeah, keep out of this. And maybe you'd better keep out of Medicine Creek altogether. If you consider that an order, Baldi, I'm not in the habit of taking orders, particularly from someone who'd incite a group of people to break the law. A man who'd do that probably is a lawbreaker at heart. Why, you big mouthbag of wind, I'll show you if I can give orders and make them stick. A solar plexus, Chad. A solar plexus. Oh, that's it, man. That's the one. That's the one. All right, now, now, won't you folks quiet down? Well, won't you listen to some sense, please? There. Now, I've got just one thing to say. I'll grant the taxes have been assessed, but you still have 10 days in which to pay them. I believe this whole matter can be settled legally. And with 10 days left, will you give me just two days to see what I can do before you all run the risk of committing suicide? Okay. That's all I want, just a chance. A chance to save the other women in Medicine Creek from joining Mrs. McCarty and wearing mourning. Crone, I'm telling you the truth. Me and Quirt had the whole meeting sewed up until this lawyer got up in the soapbox and butted in. So the ranchers aren't going to fight back. Yeah, sure don't look that way. They agreed to give Remington time to do something rather legally. Yeah. Well, in that case, we're not going to waste any more time. You know what he's talking about, Quirt? Well, he sure don't. If Remington talked to me to not fighting back, we're fixing it so they will.  Medicine Creek's going to have a range war. And we're starting it ourselves. Knock on them horses, boys! Don't let them critters get away! Come easy, G-Boys. Come on now. Rain up. Okay. Now, let them have it. You got the powder set, Baldi? All set, boss, and the fuses lit. Okay, then let's get out of here. He's your friend. Can't you do something to make Chad stop? He's been pacing up and down like a Cade cat amount for the last hour. Well, all I could, Bella. He would offer me a drink of genuined in rattlesnake oil to soothe his nerves. The only thing that will soothe my nerves is some way out of this. If I hadn't talked the ranchers around here into not organizing some of those men hurt and killed last night, might still be here. Well, now, there's no use crying over spilled milk. It's not milk. It's spilled blood. If I could only figure some way of proving what we all know and then putting those weasels in jail where they'd be safe. Chad, my boy, even jails aren't safe. Matter of fact, a lot of safes aren't safe. Yes, indeed. Learned that many years ago. Well, that safe in the mayor's office seems to be burglar-proof. But, of course, being a burglar himself, maybe the mayor knows. Wait, wait a minute, Bella. What safe in the mayor's office? Well, the city safe. Safe he keeps all the tax money in. Tax money? Since when does a mayor keep the tax money? The tax collector's supposed to keep that. Really? Well, Bill always paid the tax money over to the mayor who took charge of it. Well, now, maybe the knob on that safe has a combination to a jail cell in addition to this safe. Jail cell? Now, what earthly connection has a jail cell got to do with the combination to the safe? I got to hunch it has plenty to do with it.  Chad, I'll do anything to help, but this doesn't even make sense. Bugging his ear. Yeah, and what's more, if Mrs. McCarty and I go pay a call to the mayor, why can't you come with us and place the insect in the proper orifice yourself? Because I'm going down to make a call of my own. I'm going to call Crohn's Gambling House.  Play a pharaoh or something? Well, I am going to make a bet, a mythical bet. After I make it, then I'll be able to find out if Crohn's number comes up or mine. Yeah. I've heard all about you, Remington. I've heard all about you, Mr. Crohn. In fact, that's why I've paid you this call. Do tell. I thought you'd like to know that your friend, the mayor, suddenly packed up and took the stagecoach out of town. Why should I care if the mayor left town? You know the answer to that better than I. But he was carrying two very heavy carpet bags. Remington, I've been at this game too long not to know the only card you've gotten the hole is a deuce. You're bluffing. Well, then why not call my bluff by going over to the mayor's office with me and finding out? Okay. I'll just take that bet. And if you have got a deuce in the hole, Remington, you're going to find yourself dead broke. Or just plain dead. Where isn't here, is he? Maybe he's home.   I'm going to call your bluff by opening that safe myself. You know, Crohn, I'm wondering how you happened to know the combination to the mayor's safe. Keep on wondering, Remington. Why you double-crossing liar? Every penny's in here. Didn't work, mister. But even if it had, it wouldn't have made any difference. You're through. So long, lawyer. You'll find your corpse at the bottom of the rapids. Well, Crohn, you can't say I didn't back my little bluff with it. But you haven't pulled that trigger yet. You'll never live for straight out again. For a moment, Crohn, I thought my last chip was down. Hey, Cherokee, Bella. Here? Get over there. By this? This is an outrage. Kidnapping the mayor. I'll have you all trailed for this. You will, your honor. When are you going to do that? 30 years from now when you get out yourself? Because that's just about what the jury will give you when they find out that the most notorious gambler in town knew the combination to your safe and what was in it. I'll let you begin with that lovely little trick you pulled on the mayor and Carl Crohn. Carl is just a little everyday psychology. A man who makes his living by chicanery generally is easy prey for chicanery. For instance, take you. You made your living peddling that rattlesnake oil and now you spend most every nickel you make buying some other kind of liquid poison. Oh, is that so? Well, my barnyard blackstone, I want you to know that he knows make my living, bending patent medicines. Oh, no? Oh, sir, in my younger days, I was a stagecoach driver. You don't say. In fact, I was the best known stagecoach driver in all of Wyoming. I drove a stagecoach with only two wheels. Only two wheels? What held it up? Bandits.   Get running. Frontier Town starring Tex Chandler Story and supervision by Joel Murkart Direction by Paul Franklin Music written and played by Ivan Ditmar Be sure to be with us again same time next week for another fine action-adventure story with your favorite young western star, Tex Chandler. This is Bill Foreman telling you that Frontier Town came to you from Hollywood.


All right, so one of the most important life skills that you can have is ego management Ego management that actually means two different things. Okay on one hand. There's managing your own ego Okay, and on the other hand There is managing other people's egos both of them are basically the most important thing in the world And especially in the day of the internet people don't know how to do either of them Okay, what do I mean by ego management in the first sense? How do you manage your own ego? All right, here's what happens to a lot of people This has actually been a recurring theme on my channel a lot of people is for example in technology Will identify with different tools that they use which is absurd They will identify with programming languages. They will identify with ways of writing programming languages They will identify with different Frameworks and other stuff like this.  It makes you tactically blind. It makes you incapable of Seeing flaws and things in fact incapable of seeing flaws in the things that are most important to see right if you are Using a programming language and you are intransigent and can't listen to someone else Criticizing it for this or that reason you can't actually see the bad things about it.  So why would you personally identify with a lark? you know what I mean and This is how like Unfortunately a lot of people operate nowadays. They just uh, you know everything to them is just like an extension of their ego Okay, so that is one thing you can go ahead and stop you can go ahead and look at all the things in your life that you get offended by and Just scale it back because you otherwise you're literally no better than the stereotypical Twitter liberal Okay, who gets offended who like literally can't even process criticism because they so deeply Identify with the things that they're supposed to believe all right and that's pretty pathetic now on the other side of the coin You have to if you're managing other people's egos what I mean by that is You have to constantly look at other people and make the assumption that they are going to be offended an Egotistical about everything okay now I don't mean censor yourself and I don't mean assume that everyone is immature But what I do mean is you need to always come across as accommodating to people in real life Okay, now on the internet the dynamic can be a little different. I mean you might argue about this I think it's always a safe strategy on the internet It's probably the safest strategy to always be accommodating to people on the internet as well But a lot of people frankly, you know, there's sort of an audience on the internet You know, you might there might be a benefit in a trolling effect because while you might turn the particular Egotistically invested person off you might also sort of you know earn the approval of other people and they might see your viewpoint Just if you'd like totally embarrass someone But frankly, that's a risky scenario a risky strategy I should say Because the safest thing is always to assume that people are going to be very offended if you attack something that they might Identify with so you should always be accommodating And in real life, you should always always always be accommodating regardless like the whole LARP of I'm gonna be a troll in real life. That's pretty lame.   That's not necessarily the case But you should always assume that it's the case Otherwise you are just gonna you're literally just gonna be burning bridges non-stop. You're just gonna be like totally I don't know.  They don't decide what to identify with based on what they actually think is the best A lot of people are just governed by consensus a lot of people, you know, you're stereotypical Twitter liberal you're You know stereotypical redditor. I mean redditors reddit is literally a site based on social consensus And people on that site are gonna think they're very smart for just going along with what other people think and saying it very smugly Okay, so if you need to Correct one of those people it is very important for you not to Like you have to you have to sort of concern troll them you have to sort of Pretend that like well, I mean you don't you shouldn't pretend you should actually try and understand where they're coming from and The the rationalizations for what they believe, you know And if you don't do that you just sound I don't know it just sounds sort of cringe And it's frankly, you know back to the the main point about your own ego It's big cringe if you like react like that if you get offended by you know, for example, I have a friend in real life and he knows that like I do this like Linux stuff online and stuff like that.   So yeah, that's my advice It might be it might sound lame But yeah, try and not step on people's egos and don't have an ego of yourself Definitely don't do it in real life. You really shouldn't do it on online either That's one thing that I learned constantly like in my position you know, especially having a position of authority online like being a being a an Influencer content creator.  Just don't do that Yeah, so yeah, that's that's my lesson about egos don't have one And of course if if you disagree with me you're wrong and you should feel bad and embarrassed