But I'm going to start with with some preliminaries some discussions of historical linguistics methodology in general And I will review very quickly the major sound Sorry, the major language families of East Asia so that we can know okay Well, we're going to talk about sign of Tibetan, but what is its context in terms of other language families and then go through Some branches of of sign of Tibetan not all of them, but here we go So language families of Asia I've ordered them in roughly speaking. I think the The history of their dispersal so one thing that that that I'll be looking at is is maps where if a Language is quite isolated in its geography or or broken up in its geography. It probably spread earlier and that's You know, that's this is the order that I came up with of language families in in Asia According roughly to when they probably spread so looking first though at Modern nation states and I'm only going to look at the two Chinas. Let's say we have in Taiwan 20 languages 15 of them for Mosin and for synodic, which is says for Chinese dialects and then in the PRC 300 languages from 11 Primary language families. That's means like, you know, like as different as finish in English or something like that And if we compare that with Europe in Europe, there are 24 official languages used in the context of the EU and There's a total of about 130 languages spoken in in this is not just in the EU, but in all of geographical Europe and They are found in four language families. So I think it's just important contextually to realize that China has twice the linguistic diversity of Europe. So so, you know 300 languages 11 families versus 130 languages and four language families and I think that's I don't know. I don't want to sort of belabor it necessarily but I Mean, it's very important contextually because because if you look at how Europe is studied in academia And I don't know how Europe manifests politically you would think Europe was more multilingual than China Whereas in fact, China is much more multilingual than Europe and we can think about, you know Why that contradiction exists, but maybe right not right now So looking at isolates, these are, you know a single language that is as far as we can tell unrelated to any other language in the world and We can look at their distribution and get a sense of like, I don't know what the world would have been like a long time ago So there's Ainu spoken We're tested in three dialects, Sakhalin, Kuril and Hokkaido But Sakhalin and Kuril are gone Sakhalin survived into the 1970s. So there is some information about it very little about Kuril and And Hokkaido is kind of just barely around Then Kusunda is spoken in Nepal and There's there were actually at the beginning of the summer. There were two speakers, but there's only one speaker now They were hunter-gatherer community that switched to I don't know agriculture since the 1950s and are, you know, probably indicative of the earliest linguistic situation in that part of the world in Nepal And then Andamanese is spoken just in the Andaman Islands and it's probably the most robust of spoken in the Andaman Islands and One island in particular has is not yet kind of interfered with by modern Civilization, so they are probably quite Let's say robust as far as language isolates go in terms of maintenance of their language Then there's a language Nihali that is spoken in West Central India Seems not to have been worked on very recently, but was still around in the 1990s and has been highly influenced by Indo-Aryan and and what they called Tamil What are those Dravidian, Dravidian languages But seems to be a language isolate and then an interesting case. There's a language Veda Where currently it seems that the there is a population of Let's say an indigenous people who who traditionally used hunter-gathering as their subsistence strategy and they speak now a kind of divergent dialect of singhalese, but it seems or or you know, I haven't looked into this at all, but They say this divergent dialect of singhalese has you know a substrate of a language isolate that would have been the indigenous language of Sri Lanka So yes, and then of course a Burusha ski in northern Pakistan is also considered an isolate So this gives you I think a nice impression of basically In every direction, especially on islands, but to some extent in the mountains There's a language here or there that's unrelated to any other language in the world and these are probably the You know the last remnants of diversity that's kind of hard to imagine that As other languages came and and spread to to break up You know these To leave these these few isolates and and none of these are in China as far as I know There are there are no isolates in China, which is kind of interesting in its own, right? I'm not quite sure what it means But now turning to a Hmong Nian I think this It where it seems to me is in some ways the oldest if you like a family of China if you look at the map You see that it's it's it's very sparsely spread throughout China and and Vietnam, Laos and Thailand and then there's reason to think both based on known history and on the distribution of the branches that the The the people in Vietnam and Laos and will not Have moved south and in general like that's a pattern that we will see again and again that Languages are sort of spreading out of China and Generally speaking which has something to do with you know the world geography Languages are sort of coming in from the Northwest and then pushing other languages out into the Southeast and And About Hmong Nian there, so they're 39 Languages they fall into two groups Hmong and Nian in Chinese. They're called meow and yow They have very complex tonal systems. I wasn't sure, you know, just What to say about these these are going through a lot of languages very quickly So I just to point out, you know something to so it's not just a list of names Yeah, so you can say oh, okay Hmong Nian has very complex tonal systems and Hmong Nian has very Long-term contact with Chinese such that the the the Hmong in particular Have a special place in Chinese mythology where they're sort of the the sister people to the Chinese and and Hmong Nian languages are Full of very early Chinese long words So they're very the study of Hmong Nian is very important to the study of Chinese historical phonology as well Okay now turning to Austroasiatic Here again looking at the map you can see that probably it started in in China With for instance this branch Pachanik still in China and Is very widely spread out so you see you have Munda and Kasi in India and then you have Nicobarese in the Nicobar Islands in the Southwest But the the famous languages are are Vietnamese and Khmer. So let's just go through that. There's a hundred and sixty eight Austroasiatic languages the first to tested is Mon Which is spoken in in mon state in Burma and in parts of Thailand It was a tested from the 6th century and Vietnamese and Khmer are the two languages with official Status at the national level Okay now on to The this family is called both Thai could I and cradae and Again, if you look at the distribution you see you know these little enclaves up in China with cradae very You know dispersed so this Suggests that the family comes from China and then spread south and And You notice that the colored blobs get sort of larger as you go south and are on Increasingly or let's say increasingly less diverse So you have northern Thai central Thai and then southwestern Thai is the is the largest and Those are all you know varieties of Thai. Yeah, so 95 cradae languages with the first tested being Thai Which was written down in 1283 and is the only one of National status the most famous Cradae language in China is Zhuang associated with the Zhuang Ethnicity so now on to Austronesian Where I have to zoom way out because These languages are spoken over a huge Geographic area That includes you see in the in the lower left Madagascar all the way to Hawaii or something in the east 1257 languages They all spread from Formosa and this is kind of methodologically quite Interesting because it can be hard Sometimes to figure out where a language family spread from you may know that there's a controversy about this for Indo-European languages but in this case it's easy because Basically all of the primary branches of Austronesian are still present in Taiwan But and then as you get sort of further and further from Taiwan you get less Divergence less diversity and and Just point out that was personally I have trouble telling differences when Austro-Aziatic and Austronesian, but the key is Nisha is referring to islands like in Indonesia, you know Malaysia Micronesia, so this this Language family is is Very strongly associated with islands it comes from Taiwan got as far as Madagascar And basically every island in the in the Pacific would have been Would have been Austronesian speaking at some point and then in terms of national languages Malay, Bossa Indonesia, Tagalog and Malagasy are all Austronesian languages and Yeah, okay, so then Now you know kind of the basic picture and what I'm not going to get into But you should know is out there is kind of big Theories about Relationships between these groups. So like a lot of people in China think that crawdy is related to sign or Tibetan And Laurent cigar thinks that Austronesian is related to sign or Tibetan a lot of people think that crawdy is related to Austronesian and and Here's how I look at these things kind of in from sort of first principles on the one hand language as a technology was probably not invented a lot of times independently. So ultimately all languages on earth are probably related and Languages will tend to be related to languages that are close by So at some point for instance, the Austronesian family would have had to have gotten from the mainland to Taiwan So so you kind of prima facia it is related to to Austro-Asiatic but This is the kind of thing that it's not going to be very profitable to work on because None of these languages are particularly well studied by European language by European standards and and You know something like Indo-European Let's talk about in terms of big families into Eurealic looks quite promising But is extremely hard To figure out and is very controversial and that despite both Indo-European and Eurealic Having 200 years of research done on them at a very high level with a lot of primary evidence So I think it's premature to worry about relationships among the language families of Asia until The work on the individual language families is more advanced and Now some remarks about historical linguistics So the key method in historical linguistics is the comparative method and the other Thing to keep in mind is analogy and the way I think about this is so so you have Regular phonology and you have analogy and we'll we'll we'll we'll look at them in turn And then I also want to just mention this. I don't know what to call it. It's not quite a methodology, but a Way of looking at human prehistory. Let's put it that way, which is called virtue unsachen in German We always say it in English in German words and things where basically if you can reconstruct Words in a proto language. It means that there was some group of people who spoke that language and had those words and that means mentions of Technologies practices animals Are also reconstructable, right? It's a way of accessing the the physical and social world of a prehistoric community through its language But I will get back to that So looking at the comparative method and for some of you, this will be a totally old hat, but maybe for some a little bit Less so so we notice systematic correspondences between words in languages and Just to kind of keep it easy and hopefully Languages some of us at least are familiar with I look at Latin Sanskrit English and German So you notice that where Latin has a P Sanskrit has a P But English doesn't have a P it has an F and German also has an F you can ignore the fact that German uses two letters for the F sound That's that's just an issue of spelling So that's for the word for father it also holds for the word for fish and For the word for foot now when we find a pattern like this we We let's say you might think oh well it either it holds sometimes it doesn't hold sometimes But the methodological principle is that a pattern like this needs to hold all the time and Then either if you find exceptions either they're phonetically conditioned or they're evidence of loan loads So so having seen a pattern like this, then you can think These languages at one time in the distant past must have been the same language Which gradually changed into these four languages and in these words in this position Either it had a P or it had an F Now how to decide which it was I'll just point out that Latin and Sanskrit are not particularly close geographically and English and German are closer especially when we know that you know some historical facts like that English was brought to England from From let's say the German speaking world in the fifth and sixth century so That's just purely that sort of geographical and historical context makes you think probably the P is original and The dramatic language is changed the P to an F but Also, we can have recourse to linguistic typology Which is that we see again and again languages that change P's into F's so like Japanese changed P into F Greek changed P into F So so if you just had to guess which one's older the P or the F you would guess the P Yeah, so so that's what we would say here and we can say that the The language into European that later became all four of these languages Had a P in these words and then that changed to an F in English and German So that's the comparative method you you you bring words together You find the patterns for each pattern You come up with an explanation and that way you can reconstruct how the like the words used to be pronounced I'm not going to go into You know the reconstruction of these particular words because that would be a lecture about in their European and not about science Yeah, I've already mentioned that okay so now on to analogy, but maybe what I should say is that All of this stuff is regular historical phonology Is a process that affects inherited vocabulary? Where the the the let's say I would say the psychological process in question is memory, right? You you learn something from your parents and then you speak it when you speak the language So you're correctly remembering the word remembering the word and then just a natural phonetic tendencies when populations are no longer in contact allows a sound to gradually change into another sound through it through You can think of it as errors of production or Or perception so, you know someone someone because of the way the lips works Someone occasionally pronounces a P as an F and then maybe the child learns it as an F I mean, I'm radically oversimplifying but the the the the the part the point I want to make is Phonological change of this kind is indicative of Correctly remembering the language as it was sort of I mean talks to you is not quite the word but as you as you learn whereas analogy is about What happens when you forget something? so So here and I think this is this notation is something that I would sort of like everyone to Come away with Where you this is how you do four-part analogy, it's called not all analogy is four-part analogy But it's always worth trying To see whether you can make an analogy in the form of four-part analogy And why is it called for part? Well, you see there are four things here. Yeah so the way you read it is talk is to talk as help is to X and I Wonder can I have any volunteers for for what X equals? anyone Don't be shy. Let's see. I'll just scroll down here and pick someone then Oh Your names aren't showing Whoops How about oops? Oops. Sorry. How about I forgot your name, but the fellow in Pennsylvania Yeah, hi, my name is Nikita Nikita. Okay. What do you what will you solve X as? So it will be a helped. Yes Okay. Yeah, so So, yeah, so not so hard But the point is Historically speaking it was Holpen. Yeah, and if you Let's say if you live in this country where I live you occasionally hear Holpen Or here is maybe the wrong word but in coral even song the kind of church service that Anglican's like to do in You know, for instance in Cambridge University. It's a famous thing. There's a line thou has Holpen thy servant Israel and When the Queen writes a letter to members of the House of Lords once a year telling them to show up to meetings The letter also uses the word Holpen even in 2020. Yeah, so the point here Excuse me, but but in infinitive to help it will also be help. It's not like hope. I Mean historically speaking in the way there is this In the infinitive is help So hopefully speaking it should be help. Hope Holpen Okay And the point is at some point, you know someone forgot that they should say Holpen and they say helped and the way They decided to say helped was probably using an equation like talks is to talk as help is to Holpen so As a historian You try to do these things backwards. So you say for instance, okay, I see people say helped But based on for instance comparative evidence It should be hope Can I come up with an explanation for how you would go from one to another and then and then four-part analogy is the way to go Now to give another one Strive is to strove as Dive is to and then let me see if Maybe sue. Can you tell me the answer here? Yes, actually I saw this you saw it. Okay. Yeah It's dope. Yeah It's dope and that replaced the inherited dives and I've set up these two examples To make a point which is that in the one case we have Let's say the English those the word we use is a strong verb, but you can just think an irregular verb it's becoming regular and in the other case you have a A Regular verb dive dive. It's becoming irregular dive dough. So analogy can make things Can change things from one pattern to another and And and it could go either way. That's the point. I want to make right I think there's a there's a there's a tendency in the way people generally teach linguistics to say that in The first case you have a rule like in English we form the past with ed And and that's a rule Whereas we need analogy for an explanation like the second one And the point I want to make is actually that's not necessary right analogy can get you both So you don't need any rules. You can do everything with analogy and then it's just a historical question of which models did people turn to when they didn't remember things correctly and The you know, that's that's a that's a historical question that we can try and figure out and You might say even that strife strove was Not the right model. Maybe it was drive drove or stride Shrive shrove or something like that But it's clear that whatever the model was that changed dive dived into dove Probably shared something with it in terms of its phonology like it. It was an I've over Yeah, anyhow, so The the let's just say those are the two The two tools we have available as historians of language regular phonology where you set up, you know correspondences and reconstruct them and analogy which you can use to explain cases where the correspondence patterns don't work and You might be tempted to use other explanations But I think that's maybe sometimes required But it's it's really like, you know, like in the old days you did geometry just with a Compass and the straight edge. I think it's good to do as much historical linguistics as you can with just regular phonology and analogy and And and then I just you know, as I said, it's just throw away comment I don't think you need any kind of rules or deep structure in linguistics to explain How things got the way they are or in fact how people learn or what structure languages have I think it can all be done through through memory and forgetfulness where memory is is correctly reproducing what you learned and Forgetfulness is analogy where you where you use a part of the system that you do know to guess a part of the system That you've momentarily forgotten Okay, now turning to virtual one second The words of of an ancestral language tell us about the objects and ideas of the world of its speakers So let's just look at what the sign of Tibetan, you know, world was like And and how can I say I I think it's important For one thing to keep in mind here is for the Indo-Europeans. We know a lot about Archaeology and genetics and and basically, you know, the Indo-Europeans are from north of the Black Sea 4000 BC something like that. They were pastoralists. We don't know nearly as much about sign of Tibetan But let's look at what words we can reconstruct they had lies. Yeah so Tibetan and Chinese Sorry about this capital F. It has to do with it's a it's a tricky Chinese character Which my computer didn't want to make even though I encoded it correctly So anyhow Chinese and Tibetan have inherited words for lies. They have an inherited words for fish they have Inherited word for field and now I think this So what are we what are we finding out? Well, I think everyone in the world has lies So it's not particularly indicative, but if they have a word for fish it means that they were living by the sea or by rivers and Not everyone does right there. There are certainly plenty of people in the world who Who for whom fish is not a very important part of their of their diet? So we have learned something about possible geographic origins just by knowing that they have a word for fish and In terms of the word for field it suggests that the Sino-Tibetans knew some form of agriculture and let's say for for for Archaeological reasons, it's clear that that wasn't rice agriculture It mill it seems to be the thing that goes back the furthest in among Sino-Tibetans speakers But also this word field might maybe we shouldn't imagine like a wheat field like in England or rice Patty, but instead something like swidden agriculture where where you burn down part of a forest to plant in it Which is a form of agriculture that's still practiced in? Northeast India And they have a Cognate word for field that refer to those patches But in case it's clear that the Sino-Tibetans speakers probably weren't just hunter-gatherers but had some kind of agriculture as indicated by this word for field and They have a cognate word for steel So that suggests that they had you know some notion of Private property because you can't steal if if you don't have a notion of private property So so we're starting to get a little bit of oppression of you know the Sino-Tibetans. They they had lies They had fish they had fields they stole from each other And what about their view of the afterlife? They had some kind of view of the afterlife So they they believed in in a soul Now I want to look very briefly at at lone words And so I should make some methodological observations You know we all Notice that you know the languages we speak for instance probably have a word for coffee or for tea that is Similar to words for coffee and tea in unrelated languages. That's because the word spread with the technology And these were the lone words don't follow the inherited rules So looking at the word for horse And and and here already I'm starting to have a kind of polemical Context because for instance James Mattoff reconstructs a word horse for sign of Tibetan noticing that Tibetan Burmese and Chinese have similar words for horse But they don't follow the right correspondence patterns and in a forthcoming paper with some colleagues We we propose that actually The word for horse in Chinese is borrowed from Indo-Aryan and If if you're incredulous about the phonology of that we can talk about that later And then I'll also just point out that the horse came along with the chariot And the chariot is you know the Indo-European Technology par excellence. It's probably you know why Western Europe and and much of India speaks Indo-European languages is it was it was the nuclear bomb of its day, right this kind of Amazing military innovation the war chariot that led to the Indo-Europeans having a remarkable Advantage on the battlefield and according to archaeology, which is what I say here, too It's it's pretty clear that the Chinese learned about the war chariot from Indo-Europeans of some kind around 1250 BC And along with it came the word for horse and chariot so Let's say that Maybe is interesting as details, but I think I want to to to make the methodological point, right? That they hear you have things that Befit the civilization of the time period you have in mind Yeah, I'm almost surprised actually that the sign of Tibetans had the some form of agriculture because it's so long ago You would sort of expect maybe they wouldn't But they certainly didn't have chariots, yeah and or horses though the horse You know was only used for eating for a long time and and spread in Asia, you know under the influence of the inter-Europeans around 1313 1200 BC So so it's it's it's it would be a bad sign if someone reconstructed the word for horse to sign a Tibetan But if we just reconstructed things based on what was archaeologically plausible That would be poor methodology, right? You have to have the linguistics as Linguistics lead to the right answer and that right answer has to be compatible with the findings of archaeology So in this case, I think you know it can be done and it's that the horse and chariot are borrowed from Indo-Aryan Okay So that's oh, yeah, so that's it for this presentation and then I'll switch to the other presentation with the second half of the lecture But just to sort of sum up we have a series of language families spreading out from southern China around the world and We have two principles that guide us for studying history regular phonology and analogy and used judiciously they should tell us about the the kind of physical and social world of prehistoric peoples and If everything is going well, the findings that we get through historical linguistics should match with the findings of Archaeology and now I'm just going to go through Sino-Tibetan subgroups Hopefully it won't be too tedious and I'm not going to do all of them. There's about 30 I'm not going to cover a cynic. I'm not going to cover Tibetan but but let's say partly based on the other speakers in this in this doctoral school My focus is in kind of southwestern China, right? So So and then and then I'm going to kind of Do it like I did for the other language families in terms of go from the more Isolated more more Small smaller groups to the larger groups. So first we'll start with which are languages of fragmentary attestation then Mruik then Nungish then Karen Then Saul then cookie chin then Burmese on it. So for most of you, these are probably just names But you will get a little bit more of a sense in just a moment so first we turn to these Trimmer sprachen and there's two by long and pew So looking at by long by the body the language by long is known from three songs That are preserved in the hohan shu and the songs were delivered at the Chinese court Around a 58 to 75 CE So the the the it's it's the language is not Chinese But it's written in Chinese characters and if we look at a few words. They're they're clearly Sign or Tibetan in some of the slides you'll see trans Himalayan That means the same thing a sign of Tibetan. Basically, there's a kind of let's say a political battle going on among scholars in terms of which one's the better term It doesn't need to concern us So we just look at some words. We have a word saw that means meet Looks very similar to Tibetan Burmese and Miso. We have a word Rui which means rain We have a word be which means give so it's clearly a sign or Tibetan language and it and it has relatively simple phonology and I think the location which is sort of southern China and the relatively simple phonology makes W. S. Coblin and Christopher Beckwith say that by long is a low-lowish language Which would mean it's related to honey, for example but I don't think there is very good evidence for this so in in cigar, so So there's a kind of let's say an important paper an influential paper from last year about sign of Tibetan subgrouping Where they propose lexical innovations that are Kind of pinned on different subgroups And if we look at Burma Changiq, which is the branch above the low-ish The only word that they think is indicative of Burma Changiq as a subgroup that occurs in my long is this word Moose, which means heaven But this word doesn't just occur in Burma Changiq. So old Burmese has it which is which is Burma so that oops I sort of I sort of mess mixed myself up, but First I'm proving that it does occur in probe in Burma Changiq Then I'll show that it also occurs elsewhere. So in all Burmese, we have this word Mu Yi, which means sky and in Japuk, which is a Gyaronic language of Cichuan that is studied by Guam Jock and is in many ways very archaic. They have this word tumun Which means heaven so So yeah, so this word is in Burma Changiq But it's also found in other branches So Tibetan has Mu, which means a sky god and Rahuang, which is a Nungish language has this Dumul, which is a celestial spirit now one thing that's actually kind of interesting to me And I'm not gonna push here, but you know see what you think is Maybe it's the meaning Heaven Specifically that's associated with Burma Changiq because you see that outside of Burma Changiq. It means sky god So if that's true, then maybe it is evidence that by long is somehow Burma Changiq, but it seems like a quite Quite a small difference to put a lot of emphasis on so my point here is just that Yeah, that there's not a lot of evidence for By long being low-lowish and then another thing that I just will flag to you that that I'm curious about that No one's really looked into is in terms of complicated syllable structure You see that Jopuk, Tibetan and the Rahuang all have some kind of T or D At the beginning of this word which you don't get in old Burmese or in by long That's interesting. I don't think the loss of it is particularly meaningful because it's quite easy to lose Complicated on sets and may have happened independently, but it's more This general tendency that that as you get sort of out of the core area The syllables become more simple so both Burmese and by long have have Have simplified their syllable structure And I just want to make the point that because someone might say oh, no, no, no by long might have had complicated Symbol structure, but it was the the the problem of how to write this language in Chinese characters that meant that it leads us as modern researchers to think it had Simple syllable structure, but I'll just point out that in the in the in the sign of Tibetan peace treaty of 821 the Tibetan word stuck which means tiger was written with Chinese characters as something like So when the Chinese wanted to they could write a complicated syllable structure even though they didn't have it themselves so that's A point that that I think The absence of complicated syllable structure in by long We can think is a true reflection of the by long language So that's it for by long just three poems for Pew Pew is an urban civilization that preceded the Burmese in in the upper in upper Burma From the 6th through the 13th century and they are let's say among the earliest Buddhists in Southeast Asia and The oldest text in Polly was found in a reliquary Excavated From the pew so they knew Polly Pew has quite conservative phenology and I'll just look at that by looking at numbers. So Pew tech meaning one knee meaning to Play for four Panna for five To call for nine and I've given the the Tibetan is just a kind of I don't know standard point of comparison and then you notice that in some cases They're the same in some cases. They're not like the words for nine in Pew and in Tibetan seem really remarkably similar Right. So the only thing that's different is really the plate the manner of articulation. So you get voiceless call in Pew and you get the goo in Tibetan And then But there are there are differences like you don't get the G prefix in in the pew word for one And you get a P instead of a L in five so I don't you know, I don't have explanations for a lot of this but I think it's It's interesting to look at and you see that Pew has quite complicated syllable structure as opposed to by long. Oh, and then let's look at water as well Do water and chew Pew so is preserved in let's say around a hundred inscriptions most of them quite short and Was not really worked on at all between Around 1910 and the last couple years, but right now there is a kind of a renaissance of Pew scholarship going on And I've put some citations there But there's plenty more to do. Yeah, so if you want to I don't look into Pew we can talk. Okay, so let's talk about those are our two Fragmentarily attested languages and let's talk about what their features are Because in some ways they're kind of have some surprising similarities So the first person singular pronoun in by long is K and In pew is gay. So they're quite similar and Most languages of the sign of Tibetan family have a first person pronoun like nah So Tibetan does Chinese does Burmese does So that's interesting and Funbeak who worked on proto kooky chin doesn't didn't have any awareness of pew or by long sees K as the first person singular in cookie chin a cookie chin are our languages spoken in Northern Burma. He sees that as indicative of a cookie chin language Which would suggest that by long and pew are also cookie chin But I just want to point out that that around the family. We do have these kind of similar first-person singular Pronouns sneaking around here and there. So all the car is a language of Bhutan and Their first person is good and then there's a language pushy chung Which has a first person car? So, I mean, I don't know. I don't want to you know Over stress this in terms of like pew gay and And cookie chin gay are very similar But it's just to say I don't I don't that might indicate that pew is a cookie chin language It might not the whole question of the distribution of let's say nah like pronouns and gay like pronouns in the sign of Tibetan family needs more study But but but but it's it is just interesting to notice that that our two tumor tumor Sprache have the sort of less Normal first person singular pronoun Okay, so that was it for tumor Sprache Sprache. Now we look at Mruik some so Mruik is is is only has two members Mru and Anu Kong so it's spoken in the highlands of Burma and Bangladesh And has really almost not been worked on so Lüffler has an article from 1966 and then David Peterson of Dartmouth is working on it now, but he hasn't really published anything And Lüffler does some some comparisons with other sign of Tibetan languages It's rare for distinguishing final R final L and final yeah Although just and this is just me having looked at some of the words it doesn't look like the L Words are necessarily inherited So I did someone say something. Okay. Um, I mean, maybe this is just a Kind of the problem with me knowing Tibetan but Mru words look to me a lot like Tibetan So if we look at pig Puck in Mru and Puck in Tibetan the word for house Kim in Mru and Kim in Tibetan and the word for bear Tom in Mru and Tom in Tibetan and Let's say these words tend to occur all through outside to Ben, but oftentimes won't Look quite like this. So for instance in Burmese the word for home is Yim Not Kim and the word for bear is warm not Tom or something like that. So You know what is going on here with Mru? I just think it's it's it's it's I just wanted to you know say I think there's Mru is juicy and people should work on it more. Okay We'll look at the numbers So we have Chum, Thali Tunga Tarok Ranit Riyat Taku. Yeah, so you don't you know, probably your memory isn't perfect But if you look at Taku and then let's go back to the Pew numbers Nine to go in Pew the goo in Tibetan. So quite similar, right? Which I think is indicative of of shared inheritance, right? This is to say Mru is a very archaic language and then I Just want to make a proposal here Which is so we have these Taz these top prefixes, right? So I think that in six and nine It's etymological Where you get it for instance also in Tibetan But probably spread via contamination To four and five and and contamination. I think I'll deal with this later But is is the process whereby languages? Sorry words that are part of a semantic subsystem Influence each other The textbook example is that whereas French has Mal and femel for male and female in English we changed Femel to female to make it look more like male. So it's it's a way that words that are associated in meeting Influence each other's form very common in numeral systems For adjacent numerals and then does the you know, we saw Does the Chuh reflect the K prefix of three in in in the word for three chum in Mru Gussum in Tibetan. I think it doesn't and I compare the word for tree in Tibetan with this shing To Qing in in Mru, so it seems like Mru just changed their S's to chose somehow Okay, so that's it for Mru Now on to Nungish, there are three Nungish languages Trung, Rahuang and Anong you've already heard about Rahuang Spoken on both sides of the Sino-Burmese border So just to remind you about the sort of trajectory of my presentation We're going from, you know, tiny fragmentary languages to bigger ones So we're still at a quite small branch that only has three Language families and the speakers of these families are switching to low-lowish languages So so I mean one thing that I think Something is easy to forget in a kind of global context Where like English is in charge and then I don't know If you're in Germany, for instance, you would say okay Well, we speak German and then in in some parts of higher education we speak English whereas if you're a Sorb, you'll say like okay, we speak In some in in some kind of context we speak English in some kind of context We speak German and then in the home, maybe I speak Sorbian with my grandmother So there are those kind of layers all throughout the world and in in this part of the Sino-Tibetan border region Actually, Lisu is the language that is taking over Trung, Rahuang and Anong Even though, you know, international Lisu might not be very strong. Anyhow, no reconstructions of Proto-Nungish Although I think it's a an exciting area to look also wouldn't be that hard because there are only three languages Now just deep breath now, Keren So Keren is the most southern of all Tibetan-Burman languages And it has SVO syntax like Chinese all other languages have SOV syntax And it has very simple syllable structure About 20 to 30 languages 16 of them reasonably well documented Just the famous ones Saga, Po, Kayan, Li, Wei Keren is kind of exciting because it was one of the first sub-branches that was worked on historically by Audrey Kour Who if his name doesn't mean anything to you You should look into him. He is the person who explained the origin of tones in Chinese he worked on the Vietnamese and he worked on Proto-Keren and identified that Keren had a tonal split very similar to Middle Chinese to Thai and to Vietnamese and He reconstructed a series of voiceless nasals so things like There was later confirmed in field work by Gordon Luce So I think that's how can I say a great endorsement of a methodology But I think is a cool thing about historical linguistics is you can You can have the method lead you to posit something and then have it confirmed Later and that you know the famous example of that is the the Indo-European laryngeals Which were reconstructed by Desus or and then were found in Hittite But I just want to point out here is a little example in Sino-Tibetan The voiceless nasals of Keren were predicted by Audrey Kour and then were confirmed by Luce and Then there seems to be an isogloss characteristic of Keren not a very interesting one to change now into Nya One of the most interesting Keren languages is this one Pao Because most Keren languages have so radically simplified their their syllable structure that it's just There's no finals at all They have syllables like Pa and Ma and Ma but not Pa and Ma and Ma But Pao has nasals so it has things like Pung versus Pum But unfortunately, it's quite understudied So so I mean what another sort of like motif of my talks will be like There are really low-hanging fruit out there. So if you want to become rich and famous, you know just pick a Sino-Tibetan language and and you can make you know Discoveries that will forever change the field. So now that was it for Keren Now I'm going to move on to this family Saul. So Saul is a is it and now we're getting to the bigger family It's a big family it was Proposed by Robbins Verling On the basis of the word for son. So Saul languages have a word for son. That's like Saul and Other languages have a word like knee or or yeah, so knee is what you have in Tibetan and in Chinese There are three sub branches Bodo Garo, Cognac and Jingpo-Lewish, Bodo Garo and Cognac are both mostly spoken in India and then Jingpo-Lewish on the sort of Chinese, Burmese, Indian border region So we're going to look at Jingpo-Lewish a little bit. The most I don't know the Jingpo is is the more famous of the two Pieces and it's being studied these days by a Japanese study Japanese young scholar of Kurabe It's the majority language of Kichin state in Burma. So so similarly like if you speak Something like Lashi at home you'll speak Jingpo in the market in Kichin state and It's also spoken in India and China It's one of the five Sino-Tibetan languages that was used by Benedict in his reconstruction of Sino-Tibetan from 1972 and I'm that's just I mean I don't I that work is so out of date now that it's basically useless But I just think it's maybe helpful to mention to people that Jingpo, I would even say of all the languages I've mentioned so far is probably one that you'll hear about more Because it has been used a lot in Sino-Tibet And it has quite archaic features including iambic syllables That's you know, like we've seen with Pew and with Mru things like Taruk is an iambic syllable preservation of final R and final J so that's it for the Jingpo side and Well, I think one thing that's been sort of frustrating at least to me about Jingpo in the past is that It's quite well documented. It's quite archaic. It's very interesting. It's been used in Sino-Tibetan, but There wasn't anything to compare it to Immediately like comparing Jingpo and Tibetan Jingpo and Chinese feels like it's quite far But this has just started to change with with work by this guy whose Name is pronounced Fujiwara Because he's Japanese but he writes it using the old nationalist Transliteration scheme so you will see it in bibliography that Huziwara And he has been Working on so he's written a grammar of Chuck Done a reconstruction of Lu Lu Luish So this is a group of very small languages also spoken in basically the same areas and I personally think that Work on the relationship between Jingpo and Lu Luish will be one of the most exciting areas of Sino-Tibetan in the coming years. So now comes a kooky chin the last two are gonna be kooky chin and Bermachongic which are Things I know a little bit more about But also are a little bit more complicated So kooky chin now you get a Tree diagram Don't need to go through all of this and I'll share all these Slides But anyhow so kooky chin is spoken in Where like Burma and Bangladesh meet In the hills so you have the chin hills on the Burmese side and the Chittagon hills on the Bangladeshi side and They have an interesting Verbal system where they have verb agreement. It's a personal agreement like let's say like Indo-European languages And they have an alternation between two verb stems one which we call stem one used mostly in Finite contexts and the other one stem two used in subordinate contexts The central branch is the best studied with Mizzou As another one of Benedict's five reference languages. So his his his reference languages were Tibetan, Burmese Mizzou, Jingpo And Chinese maybe I'm not sure if I remember the last one anyhow doesn't matter And I will just point out in case you've you've heard, you know the words mean, I think you Mizzou is the majority language of Mizoram, which is a state in India although most things happen in English in Mizoram and The change of R into G is characteristic of the northeast branch. That's something that has been discussed a lot Yeah, but David Pearson Has shown convincingly that it's a it's a late change that's spread through contact and is not indicative of Of a subgroup per se Protocol kitchen is is has been worked on so somehow Recently it's come back into fashion, let's say so so Toru Ono did a basic reconstruction in the 1960s but then Chris Button and Ken van Beek both had Reconstructions around the same time and then I've also worked on her to cook each and a little bit In general the northern languages are conservative in their rhymes and the southern languages are conservative in their initials So that's kind of elegant, isn't it? Existing reconstructions rely mostly on The northern languages because more data has been available on them one thing that happens, especially in Burma but but but in this whole region is The languages where the population has converted to Christianity end up being better studied because People want to translate the Bible into that language and need to compile dictionaries and whatnot So that's definitely what's happened in this case, which is that speakers of northern Kugichen languages converted to Christianity and then have been better studied whereas the speakers of southern Kugichen languages have retained their Traditional religions and have been less studied, but that is slowly changing and just last year There was a kind of a dump of data on surveying of varieties of the southern Chin languages That has been shared on on Zenodo, which is a European research Council's research data repository Okay, so that's what I will say about Kugichen and now comes Burma Changiq where where things are are quite Complicated so first and here I will kind of really talk through the the different bits Thus the the stambam the family tree of Burma Changiq. I Should say with all of these family trees take it with a grain of salt I Have been very in the past very Against drawing family trees because I feel like you shouldn't draw them until you're sure they're right Each node should you should be able to say precisely what changed and know that it changed from you know from this into that But now I've become a little bit more relaxed and I feel like it's a good way of organizing information organizing our thinking and And reveals the state of scholarship Even if we have to keep in mind it that that most of this stuff could change Hopefully will change as more research is done. But anyhow, here's Burma Changiq, which has sort of two halves probably broadly not Changiq Which then has three branches Naik or Suik and Changiq and Earth and Changiq has four branches Prinyi Muya or Muya also Minyak. I heard someone here works on rituals among the the Minyak Burma, which is Used to be called Chang Chang But there's good reason to call them Burma because that's what they call themselves And because they have no relationship as far as we can tell to the historic Chang people of Chinese history and Then the Galerong Galerongic family that will get its own slide later later on So that's it for the Naik Changiq family and then looking at Lolo Burmese. There are two branches Lolo ish and Burmish Lolo ish has quite a lot going on which we'll look at later But on Burmish, it's quite clean. You have a Burmik and Maruik split and generally speaking the Naik Changiq languages are more conservative and Lolo Burmese languages are a little more innovative in terms of their phonology, for example so First of all just to mention that the idea that Lolo Burmese and Changiq have some relationship So if you like this Burmo Changiq hypothesis has been kicking around for a while So you have some citations Dempsey 1995 is is is the is the earliest that I've sort of run across But this paper by Guillaume Jacques and Alexi Michaud in 2011. I think it really sort of Started to be when this idea became something more widely accepted and even now I think there are a lot of Sino-Tibetanists who don't believe in Burmo Changiq, but but I do so So, you know, so you'll get to hear about it And then I just discussed these subgroups Naik or Suic Changiq including Lolo Burmese and then let's just mention what are the ancient languages in this family most of the I think of the Families I've been mentioning so far to better Burma branches have don't have not had ancient languages So there's Tongut from 1036, which is Galerani. There's Burmese first attested in 1113, which is Burmese there's Yi first attested in 1485, which is Lolo-ish and then there's Nashi and and People say people like to say, you know that in China that Nashi is as old as the hills But there are no manuscripts that are Obviously from before the 18th century. So let's say a Nashi is from the 18th century and it's a Naik Language so basic so more or less each branch has its own old language So some features of Burmese Changiq are Plain versus velarized vowels. I'm not a phonetician so I won't be able to do these but I think let's say in a language like Like Zbu if you take the letter the vowel ah, this would be a difference between a real ah and an ah And Then a complex system of directional prefixes that double as past tense markers and this is a Very fun thing about these languages where for example for a motion verb You'll have go and then you'll have prefixes that mean Downstream upstream towards the mountain it can vary between different languages and Then for verbs like eat Or I don't know things that don't have it to do with motion It tends to be that one of those prefixes will be associated with that verb in the past tense So it might be that you eat downstream. Yeah Although, you know, semantically that's not what's going on and I personally think that that's the system is sort of comparable to the Perfective prefixes that you get in in Russian where like basically every verb has a perfective equivalent but the prefix that it uses can be different and Those differences do have some semantics, but are largely just grammaticalized and they have inverse agreement on the verb and I will just say a tiny word about inverse agreement and you'll tell me how good my Explanation is but it's something that took me a long time to wrap my head around. So so don't worry about it But here's what it is In European languages, we tend to index the let's say the subject.  In a language that has inverse agreement You you have a sort of assumed way of things normally happening and That is a hierarchy that goes first person second person third person So it's much more likely that I will do something to for example an inanimate object Then that the inanimate object will do something to me and Then the person marking marks The involvement of the person in any way So like if I I don't know if I give you a hug It marks it would be first person Because I'm involved and if I'm involved It's always first person if if I'm not involved and you're involved Then it's second person and then only if neither you or I are involved. Is it Marcus third person and That involvement can be a subject or object, but if The the relationship is the reverse of what would be normal. So exam for example, if if I say I ate cheeseburger then That's a normal relationship But if I say the cheeseburger ate me that would be an Inverse relationship where third person is acting on the first person that would be marked as first person and inverse so that's my simple sort of attempt at describing inverse marking, which is that in the in in the West we ignore the object and we mark the subject in Bermatronic languages that have person marking you mark The person regardless of their role but if The relationship is the reverse of what would be normal then you put the inverse marker That's quite an interesting system the more conservative languages show all of these features and But in in many sub branches only relics of them survive Or or they're only indirectly observable and I don't think that this means much in terms of subgrouping but because because let's say complicated hard things are easy to lose so Where you see them? They're old where you don't see them They've been lost But they could be lost in different ways at different times by different languages So in the 1960s and 70s the the focus of research was on low-lowish languages largely because because China and Burma were inaccessible to researchers So they worked mostly in Thailand and although Thailand is not a Place that has a lot of Burma Chung languages even of the low-lowish branch Those to better Burma languages that are spoken in Thailand tend to be low-lowish. So that's why people in the 60s and 70s worked on low-lowish But I would say today. It's in the Chungic side where you see the vanguard of neo-Gramarian progress in trans-Himalayan reconstruction, which is I think that the Particularly the galeronic languages but but more generally Chungic is where exciting things are happening in sign of Tibetan I think both that has to do with that. They're very exciting languages But I also think it has to do with that the people who are working on them tend to be quite good and diligent in their work So just to talk you through sort of some you know the to prove my point This is where progress is happening recently. Yum Jacques in 2014 Did a comparison of Tangut and Japo Gyarong in in phonology and grammar and By bringing those examples together in a sort of systematic way his student was able to notice that the The Tongic the Tongut grades. This is a term from Middle Chinese Phenology Which either if you know about Middle Chinese Phenology, you'll know what it is and if you don't consider yourself lucky But anyhow, Tom Tongut is analyzed like Middle Chinese because that was the Fondological tradition the Tonguts had access to and they analyze their vowels according to grades and Gongshun discovered that these grades correspond to the velarized Non-velarized distinction in galeronic languages. So that's I think a real step forward in Signed of Tibetan historical phonology and then similarly also in 2020 Nathaniel Sims who's a PhD student at Santa Barbara Publish a paper where he showed that the tonal contrasts of northern Chong dialects Correspond to the two Tongut tones and this is interesting because Jonathan Evans who had worked on Chong historical phonology thought that the the non-tonal varieties were conservative and The tonal varieties had had evolved tone in some way So Sims shows that the opposite is the case that it must be that the the non-tonal Chongic varieties lost tone because there's a systematic corresponds between Tongut tone and Chongic tone So that means we can reconstruct Tonal distinctions and this velarized non-velarized distinction You know, maybe up to the not Chongic level. It's a little unclear, but those features are old and the details are Getting figured out. So I mean just 2020 good year for Burma Chongic historical phonology No real work has yet been done at the Burma Chongic level itself Which is to say so so stuff has been done on Lolo Burmese stuff has been done on Burmish stuff has been done on Giorong and on Chongic but no one has really brought that all together and I think that makes sense because there's a lot of work So here's the Nayak branch the smallest Probably so you have Nayak and and and basically Unless I say otherwise This is all Southern China. We're talking about from Sichuan, Yunnan So Nayak has three Branches under it Namu Yi, which is one language Shumi, which is one language and Naish, which is three languages Nashi, Na, and Laze Generally not a well researched Branch so if you're wondering, you know, what to do with your life Maybe work on Nayak. So there's Namu Yi just a couple articles about Shumi is currently being worked on by Katya Chirgova and Then for Naish, Nashi is the best known It's famous for its representational writing system that is used in liturgical documents by the Dongba priests and Yeah, and Alexei Mishou has a sort of survey article about it in Brill's Encyclopedia of Chinese language and linguistics, which is a very useful resource for any of you who don't know about it and Then Yongning Na, I think is the best which is You know, it's easy to mix up but Na is one language and Nashi is another language So Yongning Na is the best studied Nayak language Where an overall grammar was published in 2010 and then a book specifically about tone in 2017 by Alexei Mishou and they have a very complicated tone Sunday system and Then Laze is is really not very well studied There's one article by Alexei Mishou and Gyeongjuq But yeah, I was surprised how a little I could find out about Laze so Naik reconstruction Gyeongjuq and Alexei Mishou Made some preliminary efforts in 2011 in an article published in Diachronica and Leads of picking university has done some forays into Naish Reconstruction since then I found his work a little paradoxical because he's he criticizes Gyeongjuq and Alexei Mishou for making comparisons with Yaron because you know if you're reconstructing Naish you shouldn't peek at Yaron Which was kind of their methodological point where they were saying it's useful to have an archaic language to interpret more innovative languages but Lize herself uses Tibetan comparisons in his reconstruction of of Naish which is even further away. So it seems a little bit unfair of him to criticize Alexei and Gyeong while kind of playing the same trick himself But in any case, I think that we won't see a lot more progress in Protonite until some of the languages are better understood Laze in particular Okay, so that's it for Naik now. We're moving on to Ursuik and this I I hope will be a particularly fun one This is a very small Branch we're in Burma Changiq, right? So Ursuik has three members Tosu Ursu and Lizu Lizu with a Z not to be confused with Lizu, which is a low-loish language So three languages like I said Dominic Yu in his Berkeley 2012 PhD surveys previous work and Provides an initial reconstruction But most of the changes he discusses like this Atee, which we call brightening Is not very diagnostic is very all the languages in this part of China changed Rtee basically There's a new data on Ursu and Tosu since use study and I will now look at that a little bit with and and this was my I don't know to try and Spice things up and not just have a be all long lists of names in Minority groups in southern China We'll do a little bit kind of an exercise in historical linguistics of Ursuic reconstruction together and then see Some some of the methodological principles we discussed earlier So if we look at the words for son and daughter in proto Ursuik in 2012 you reconstructs Z for son based on these two forms and he reconstructs to forms for daughter Ziyou and Zieyi based respectively on These two forms and then the next two forms you see so the first two support Ziyou and the second two support Zieyi Okay, well This is a methodological point that that I will devote a whole lecture to basically but Proto Ursuik did not have a two similar looking words for daughter. It doesn't happen in languages, right? Like either they had different words one that meant, you know daughter of I don't know older daughter and younger daughter or one man daughter and one man daughter-in-law or something like that or they there's only one reconstruction and he has a Formal problem right either there's a formal problem or a semantic problem. That's the point, but if someone reconstructs two different Similar looking words meaning the same thing. It means they've done a bad job. That's my View on the matter so then We're going to try and solve this problem right now. Yeah, so that's unsatisfactory so I Think Ziyou, that's his first of the two words for daughter is innovative Because the beginning of it is the same as the word for Sun So you could imagine that it's Sun plus some suffix and Indeed there is a diminutive suffix Yoh that comes up in the word for calf and the word for mouse.  So I think the semantics works and That means I can I can drop Ziyou, right like If we have these two words Ziyou and Zeyi Ziyou is the newer one And Zeyi is the older one. Yeah and Then this also means incidentally that Ming Nian, sorry, Mian Ning Lizu and Kala Lizu as documented by one person by Huang Bufan and Earths like are are are a subgroup. Why because they changed what their word for daughter was Because they both support the newer word for daughter and something like changing what your word for daughter is is a pretty big change So I think that's very strong Evidence of subgrouping. So so let's say that's one thing that I will I'm trying to That I'm trying to make a kind of mythological point of is Dominic you just said, oh, there are two words for daughter and proto-ursuic But we can do better. We can squeeze a lot more juice out of this one is by figuring out that one of the two words has to be younger than the other and a corollary of that is any languages that support the younger Reconstruction must have had a period of shared history. So must be part of a subbranch Together whereas if you've preserved the old word for daughter doesn't mean anything Okay So now we just have to look at this other word for daughter Zye Yi So let's do that. Well in a conference paper in 2019 You seems to update this is on the basis of new tosu data His reconstruction from Zye Yi to a son Yi So let's see why he did that. He did that because The tosu words for son and daughter are Zee which we are not surprised by and Zami and Then he reconstructs the If you like the roots back to Zee and Zan So I'm not quite so sure on why he does Zan but By implication he sees the Yi that we saw in his earlier reconstruction And now in the Zan Yi form As unrelated to the me in tosu, right? There's just by implication. He doesn't say anything about it and they they're not the same so they must be unrelated, right? Well, I think that's Again, not very elegant So let's look at this Zee versus Zan because you wouldn't really expect a language to have You know, how can I say? Similar words for son and daughter that that aren't Following some pattern at least ultimately historically, you know, you would want it to be like child plus feminine suffix or something like that But you explains that he sees here What are called alofams, which just means variants in Matasauce, Tibet or Berman reconstruction Zah versus Zan So his explanation is that Zah stayed Zah and then when the ah to e sound change happened the Zah changed into Z and Then the Zan is some kind of variant word for child that The end suffix kind of Protected it from the ah to e change Which is why you then have Zah me? That's that's his explanation But I think this is not very likely Where if we look at the similarity between tosses Zah me and tongue me Samai For daughter and tongue me is spoken way in over in the middle of Nepal so I think It cannot be the case that the the similarity between this Tosu form in Sichuan and this form in Nepal It must be inherited must be Assigned of being old So I think that means The on reconstruction should be updated to on first of all and I would explain that Proto or so it first had the Zah son and the Zah me daughter quite similar to tongue me And then brightening. That's this change of odd to e only happened in open syllables So then so then you get Z and Zah me, right? and Then just by way of comparison Tosu has another word Nama sister, which He you reconstructs to Nam me With two m's and why does he have two m's there? Well, the first M He's using to close the first syllable in order to block the odd to e change and The second M. He's using to explain the moth suffix But I don't think it's necessary. I think why not use the one M for both purposes and then you could just reconstruct Nam me and then Here I'm just pointing out that then structurally speaking. It's exactly the same as you know Zah me from Zah me and Namma from, you know, not ma basically. Yeah, it's not rocket science And then if you compare to Ben has a word Nama, which means young lady. So I think that's related to this work Okay, so that was kind of a mini I don't know Lemma if you like a Distraction but proves a point methodologically, which is if you see someone reconstructing two Variants for the same meaning they've done something wrong and it could be that solving the problem is quite easy So, I mean this like I don't know anything about these languages. I Came at this totally naive, you know, reading his PhD like any of you And if you come to if you just read a PhD naively and say, okay The only tools I allow myself are historical phonology and analogy And I can notice people's mistakes like when they Reconstruct two words that are similar in form and the same meaning then you too can make rapid progress in Improving our understanding of a sign of Tibetan linguistics. So it's just it's just a question of commitment to the right principles. I think So now let's continue on with Changik, which I haven't made a slide of because the structure is so simple. We have print me Munya Ramah and yaw Rangik as our four branches of Changik and then yaw Rangik Itself so now we're three layers down right Bermot Changik Changik yaw Rangik is a little more complicated and this one I think is worth talking through So we have two branches. This is based on very new research of Group of people but with the lead author is like you fun So we have West yaw Rangik which has Tongut, Horpa and cross chop And then you have East yaw Rangik which has C2, Japuk, Sovdun and Zbu Zbu is probably the most archaic language. I don't know in the whole Bermot Changik family But Japuk is the most easy one for anyone to get the grips with because it's what young Jack has been writing about Very copious Copiously for a long time now And then you see what Tongut is as well. So Tongut is is is there next to Horpa and cross chop So looking at West yaw Rangik it's confined to Sichuan except for Tongut I think the Lambo's 2015 is a good introduction to Tongut studies in English the Tongut Empire lasted from 984 to 1227 in today's Ningxia and and they were they were destroyed by the Mongols but also Killed Chinggis Khan. So, you know, at least It wasn't a total loss, yeah, and then moving on to Horpa is a nice in Survey article in this sign of Tibetan linguistics book published by Rutledge in 2017 Cross chop is is worked on by line Yunfong. That's his kind of fieldwork language and then east galeronic There's a there's a nice survey article again by Guillaume Jacques It's first attested in a Hawaii Hawaii you vocabulary Which are the Bureau of Translators in I don't know what to say in pre-modern China Compiled vocabularies of foreign languages and one of them is a East galeronic language, although exactly which one isn't totally well understood and Then there's C2 Japook and so done as I've mentioned and now I just want to say, you know, and this I don't know I Will sound a lot like Guillaume Jacques, but I think the galeronic languages are extremely important in sign of Tibetan linguistics for giving a model for Morphology in the way that Sanskrit did for Indo-European and I'll give you a an example like in English We have these causative sit set Drink drench But you wouldn't know what to do with them in English you're just like, okay You you change the vowel somehow and then it makes it a causative But in Sanskrit, it's it's very clear you add the Aya suffix and then that Synchronic fact in Sanskrit Becomes a key to unlock the diachronic history of that causative formation across the language family And I think that Gyaurong will play a similar role in sign of Tibetan languages for having a lot of morphology that still Synchronically productive Okay, so now we're done with the Changek side and we move to Burmese This is the Burmese family. It has two sub branches Burmik and Maruik And then Burmik just has two sides all Burmese and then all the modern Burmese dialects under it and then no chance And then Maruik has a bunch of little languages Pella Lachid Laovo and Zaiwa But in order for these not just to be words remember Jingpoh was the dominant language of Kachin state in northern Burma The these languages are the less dominant Languages of Kachin state in northern Burma. So basically Kachin state has an ethnic and linguistic diversity all of the little languages are are Maruik so Burmish And the dominant language is Jingpoh, which is Assal language So Burmish is circa seven languages in in northern Burma and adjoining regions of the PRC And then you just saw this list And so let's look at and this is an area I've worked on so I can give more detail than other areas Is this split real the two sides Burmik versus Maruik? Well Burmik languages merge the pre-glottalized stops of proto-Burmish as aspirates So if we look at the word six in proto-Burmish, it's croc And uh you so in Burmese it's it's croc in uh in I'm not so great at reading IPA So please forgive me, but in Longchuan, Nochuan it's something like But with a high tone And then in Zhaowakiu in in Pella Kiao Now if we look at Frighton and you notice that It's very similar, but with a pre-glottalized initial Frighton croc Exactly the same like so so which is a Burmese cannot distinguish the word six from the word Frighton and neither can Lochuan Lochang Which is a good is good evidence of a merger But you see that in Zhaowakiu and Pella they're different. Yeah, so they're not aspirated and they have a creaky valve And that is why we have to reconstruct there as being a difference at the proto-Burmish level And there's a clear Burmic isogloss of merging that distinction So that proves that what I'm calling Burmic is a is a real branch is a real clade But previously and where previously is just you know a year ago I expressed reservations about the reality of Maruik because Yoshio Nishi the guy who first Proposed this Burmic versus Maruik distinction He he only pointed to evidence that Maruik was was sorry that Burmic Had this isogloss. I just discussed of losing the pre-glottalized stops But that doesn't mean that all the other languages group together But subsequently, uh, I have found together with Gongshun who was working as a postdoc at In london what we're calling the chicken mouse split Uh, because it affects the words chicken and mouse so Burmese and no chang the word for chicken goes back to grak But in lauvo and and Pella it goes back to something like a rock without any evidence of the g And a mouse is very similar where it goes back to grok in In Burmese and no chang but it goes back to rock in lauvo and Pella so you Immediately say wait a second. Are you saying that proto-Burmish had two similar words for chicken one grok and one rock? Because that's exactly the kind of thing you were criticizing in terms of what dominic you was doing And I would say uh, no, that's not what we're saying We probably would just reconstruct if you like a different initial here like A schwa after the g and say that proto-Burmish had good rock and that uh, and that the Maruic languages just dropped minor syllables at the beginning of words whereas In Burmish in Burmic languages apocopy meant that you just the schwa and then you have the proper cluster Something along those lines is what we would propose But we haven't published this yet. So I don't know. So if you have a bright idea, you can tell me In any case the point is it shows that maruic has Innovated together. Yeah, both Pella and lauvo have treated these words in the same way And that means maruic is also a sub-branch And at the beginning when I was saying, you know, that I was skeptical of Of all these nice tree diagrams. It's because I think we need really for each spot in a tree diagram An explanation like these where you say these languages all share some innovation That's indicative of of that place in the tree and generally speaking. We don't have them. So Um, uh, which is why I haven't been giving them But also it's a way of uh shortening the presentation. So now, uh About uh pun, I just want to mention this one particular language, which is dead. Unfortunately It was worked on in the 1980s and then there were there were in in 2007 when Looked at it. No one spoke it anymore No one could really Say anything except that they knew some words from, you know, oh my grandmother used to use this word Uh, but it's a really interesting looking language because it has these ta and ka prefixes of the type that you've been seeing in In pu and and maru But here in a oh, no, my bernie's script didn't turn out. That's annoying uh as yeah, uh, so You don't get these prefixes in other bernish languages But just uh, take a look at some words. You have kali wind versus le in bernie's kashai wood versus, uh, such or something like that in bernie's tami fire versus me fire for frog versus pa Uh, and it doesn't seem predictable. Whether it's the ka or the ka So I think this is very archaic similar things happening in in geological languages and is is an area that I think again Progress could really be made in terms of these ka and ta prefixes So then looking at bernie's and bernie's came up in my 2019 book. So, uh, you can look there for more details Tested first in uh, 1113 lots of stone inscriptions basically of kings giving land to monasteries And there are a bunch of bernie's dialects, uh, and I just think it's important that we keep in mind that You know that it's not like oh, there's bernie's The national language of berma, but uh, that the national language of berma is only one of uh, these types of bernie's that are quite different from each other And finally we're looking at laloish Which is where honey is This is laloish and laloish is uh, how can I say one of the The good spreaders it reminds me of like the bantu languages in africa It's a it's a it's a sub branch that has really spread very broadly and has lots of different members Uh, so here is a uh, a stambam. I won't talk to you through all of it, but basically this is based on bradley We have northern central southern and southeastern But uh, gerener says the classification of the laloish languages must be reexamined in the future by considering more Datasets and also grammatical features, which is so basically this is You know that stambam is what bradley, you know wrote on the back of the envelope needs more work And I also think it's important to emphasize I've managed to avoid so far the classification of people according to official prc ideology, uh, but the mismatch between languages and uh, so-so called nationalities Is at its worst with the laloish languages with, uh, the particular absurdity that speakers of kudzu are Classified as mongolians and my understanding of how this happened is is is they sent So so they sent ethnographers out into the field in the 1950s to find how many peoples were in china And they first just asked people for their auto names and came back and said oh, you know There's about 300 400 ethnicities and the government said that's too many. Let's get it down to like 50 or something like that and then um So they they they tried and the kudzu basically had the choice of being ye or Or not and they didn't want to be ye So they said well, what else do you have on that list and they had some kind of legend about One of their chieftains being descended from the mongols. So they said, okay, we're mongolians But now that means that you know in prc official statistics, they're mongolians, which is ridiculous anyhow Speakers of honey lahoo lisu and jino have their own Nationality so that's to say in the official Chinese list of nationalities. There are honey. There are lahoo. There are lisu and their jino but other Speakers of lalosh languages are generally grouped under the category ye regardless of How close their particular language is or not to each other And the the the sort of official ye languages nosu Which also has its own script yeah, so and there are a number of Lang of languages lalosh languages are called ye in China that used to Use a logographic family of scripts and i'm speaking in that way into the family of scripts Because it's not like there is a classical ye language. There are different lalosh languages that Use different syllabaries, uh, it's all quite messy and not very well researched And was never used for a widespread administration or education in the way that like Tibetan or or Uyghur war But predominantly for religious texts and and kept within families So uh now just looking at the branches all together in in northern lalosh The big language is is nosu in central lalosh. You have lahoo lisu And in southern lalosh honey and akka And these are just to give you you know a sense of the names of investigators who've worked on these And then particularly for honey and akka. There's this book series that I just got my hands on recently That goes county by county and looks at vocabulary mostly Of honey and akka varieties in the prc And then besoid has the the besu language which was discovered by Nishi as the most prominent member and then southeastern Lologe has full up which there's a book about by pelki Just a sort of if you like an observation maybe a criticism of work on lologe Is it's really there people who work on lalosh are really into comparative vocabulary lists And the languages can be quite similar So you get these kind of hundreds of pages of like well in this town They pronounce this word this way and this town they pronounce it this way Where like not a lot of discussion of of of grammar in a way that would be Maybe also useful in terms of lologe reconstructions bradley Reconstructed proto lologe in 1979 It was out of date at the time of his publication as pointed out by thurgood The reconstructions failed to predict the tested forms So i'm not particularly impressed by it and i think that tatsuo nishida has done some important work in Lologe comparative reconstruction that hasn't gotten enough attention mostly because he writes in japanese and i think that's Generally true of sanatabana linguistics is that the contributions of the japanese especially Let's say before 2000 were overlooked and have not been Still have potential for having a good impact on the field And then yakub demsey in 2005 suggests a new approach to the lologe tonal split Which i also think is very interesting and hasn't gotten much attention paid to it It is worth mentioning that That james mattoff is closely associated with the tonal the lologe tonal split And that's seen by many as kind of one of his real Major contributions to sanatabana linguistics. I've never been able to make much sense of his book about it. So So can't really You know endorse it. I just I just don't i'm not sure what he actually thinks and Hope that one day he or one of his students States it in a way that's easier


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