The Newsroom for Tech and Telecom Professionals and JSA Radio. Your voice for Tech and Telecom on iHeart Radio. I'm Dean Perine and on behalf of our team here at JSA, welcome to our monthly roundtable. We are bringing together top thought leaders talking about topics important to our industry and our monthly virtual roundtable series available right here on our JSA TV YouTube channel as well as on JSA Radio. The only Tech and Telecom podcast series currently available on iHeart Radio. These monthly roundtables lead us up to our on-site CEO roundtables at our industry networking event the Telecom Exchange. Next one up is on June 20th and 21st on Wall Street in downtown New York City. More information can be found at thetelecomexchange.com All right folks this is going to be a fun one today. A few topic subjects have been as buzzy as 5G and IoT which only makes sense then that we would bring together some expert panelists to talk about that very subject and that is 5G and its impact on IoT.  So thank you very much for that Pinnacle. I want to welcome our live audience here today and also those of you who are downloading on demand. So let's go ahead and get started. I am honored to introduce our guest moderator Mr. Irwin Lazar Irwin is the Vice President and Service Director at Numerity's Research. He manages research operations, develops and manages research projects, conducts and analyzes primary research and advises numerous enterprise and vendor clients. Irwin is responsible for benchmarking the adoption and use of emerging technologies in unified communications and collaboration. Covering the collaboration space as an analyst for over 15 years. Irwin thanks very much for being here today. With that I am going to turn it over to you if you would kindly introduce the panelists and we'll get going. Great thank you Dean and thank you to all of you who are joining us as Dean mentioned either live or on demand. Pleased to have a wonderful panel of industry luminaries around the 5G and IoT space. And so let me start with quickly introducing everyone and then I'll give them a chance to tell you a little bit more about what they do and what their interest areas are around 5G and IoT. So first up is Terry McCabe who is CTO of Mobile Enterprise at Mitel. Second is Sayeed Sayeed Hussain who is founder and CTO at Eris. And then Utkar Dalawal who is CEO and founder of Future Wireless Technologies. So Terry why don't you tell us a little bit about your involvement in the 5G and IoT space within Mitel. Sure. So basically we're looking at the impact that 5G has on digital transformation and how IoT is going to shape the way in which employees interact with each other, the way in which businesses interact with their customers. How do you use the internet of things, the instrumented environment that we live in and will live in going forward? How does that affect the way in which communication services are rendered? And you know we're not waiting for 5G, 5G is something that we see enabling a massive growth in what is already being developed in a 4G and a pre-standards environment. So you know 5G, wonderful enabler but we're not sitting back waiting for 5G to enable us to get some of these services started. Interesting. Okay. Say it. Ursi? Absolutely. I agree with that comment that Terry just made. We believe that 5G will just add another transport capability but the other thing to keep in mind is that 5G has a wide range of capabilities. The low latency of the high performance will be geared to a certain set of users who may not necessarily be using it for IoT but 5G standard encompasses all of the low power, wide area network technologies which we believe is what's going to drive the large scale adoption of a set of sensor-based devices which wouldn't happen otherwise. It's a combination of impacts. You know the frankly the speeds, the high performance of 5G is unlikely to be really needed by a wide variety of IoT devices applications. It's going to be the high end, the people who really need a lot of data, a lot of low latency, etc. Some applications like adding to the capabilities that exist for the connected card, autonomous driving markets perhaps but the sensor market will be driven by the slower performance, the higher latency perhaps but in a unified way where the network can adapt all of the necessary data transports that 5G encompasses. So that's what we're looking at. We expect that to be a very important part of IoT in general. The concern I have is that it'll take some time to get the coverage that's necessary to make 5G viable for a large class of applications that need widespread distribution and service coverage. Okay. So I'll come back to some of those topics in a second but let me let Ufar introduce himself to our audience. Yes, so I'm Uptar Daliwal. I have many interests and I like to amplify what Terry and Zeev said. I agree with them but I would go a bit more than that. I think as we transition to this world of 2020 and beyond where new business models, new service models will be enabled. So really I think as we transition from 4G we'll be reaching a world where new services and new values will be unleashed right from the networks that we've built and the networks we are going to build. So as we transition to 5G it's more than just back wireless. It's also about how do we transform business models. Remember the rise of the internet giants really took over the revenue stream from most mobile operators. I've seen a lack of ROI, a revenue stream so that's the challenge we have. Interesting. And so some great topics for us to circle back on. So let's start with a state of 5G today is 5G, I've seen the projections of real world deployments coming in the early 2020s to now trials running today and it seems like we've sped up the movement of 5G into production environments. Where are we today with respect to 5G? Terry, why don't you kick us off? I think what we are seeing unfortunately there's the marketing and there's the reality as usual and we all know that with 4G we certainly in the North American market had some confusion over definitions of 4G and I think you're going to get the same thing with 5G unfortunately. There isn't going to be a clean generational cut over. So we are seeing some early adoption of 5G for residential broadband supplements. So really going to that additional capacity, additional spectrum being made available for last mile, last kilometer connectivity. That's something that we'll see before 2020 and I think you're already seeing announcements out of Verizon and AT&T regarding that. We're seeing some things in Japan and Korea there but those aren't really the 5G that we're talking about. You know we've been talking about IoT connected devices, low latency, massive deployment and those low power applications aren't necessarily enabled by the pre 5G 5G that we will see. So 2020 and beyond I think that's really what we're talking about for skilled implementation and there are going to be some very big differences between the regional rollouts. You look at 4G, 4G in Europe versus 4G in North America, very different picture. Scales of operator deployments are different and the regional coverage is different and I think we're going to see some of that even perhaps more with 5G because as Uppcar said earlier some of the carriers out there are having a much more difficult time justifying the capex of going to a new generation of technology than others are and that's going to shape how quickly these things roll out. So when we say the applications have to find a way to be realized if maybe 5G technology or a mashup of 5G and other technologies. We've seen some things with 4G recently round the introduction of profiles that allow increasing IoT capabilities from 4G and that's an important stepping stone and I think we'll see a lot of carriers try to leverage that as a way to address IoT before the major investment of 5G. So Zil, let me follow up with you on a question based on what Terry said as you're playing in the IoT space today, are you limited by the fact that the initial rollouts are residential focused and that the true full 5G infrastructure to support things like IoT may be still a few years away or how do you begin to deliver IoT solutions without necessarily being dependent on the speed of rollout of 5G? I think Terry has it right. I think there's a big difference between the marketing and reality of 5G. The standards make a difference obviously. One of the biggest concerns that we've had for example and the people who have been transitioning even to 4G has been the fact that unlike 2G, 3G where the spectrum being used for those technologies around the world was very consistent, 4G was a problem. Even within the US if you picked a certain radio that didn't have a certain band you were limited by the number of service operators who could provide the capabilities that you need and around the world it became even worse. We have some large customers who are looking at international deployments who are literally saying oh boy I have to keep six different radios to worry about how I'm going to provide services around the world in 4G. The problem that we see with 5G is not really the fact that technology has to evolve but it's not driven by the IoT requirements, it's driven by the people who need faster and faster smartphone capabilities, faster approaches for downloading data for other applications other than IoT. The fact that technology is transitioned relatively quickly is a big problem. I'm hoping that the low power stuff will actually have some longevity because that's where people get very concerned. When you're talking about 10, 20, 50 billion depending on whose number you believe, devices out there, if you have to make a change, if you have to make a technology change after even the devices that are deployed out there have served their useful life it's a problem. We need to make sure that the 5G coverage is stable and that we don't move away from 4G too quickly. My anticipation is that the standards will stabilize by the end of this decade, 2020. So IoT will really pick up steam in 5G as Teri mentioned, I think in the next decade. The estimates that I see from the ITU is that 4G-LT is supposed to be around through 2035, that's good. I'm hoping that 5G will not stop certain carriers from increasing their 4G-LT coverage because that could be a big issue for the customers who need it today. So you mentioned the economics and obviously that's a big issue whenever you're looking at a technology like 5G that requires very significant infrastructure investments. Where are service providers looking to monetize 5G? How can they build the business cases for making the investment? So just to carry on the thread what Ze just mentioned earlier and what Teri brought up. So just for the audience, I personally see 5G as an overlay technology. It will be an add-on capability. And most operators right now are still trying to monetize and build out using infrastructure and service providers that is cost-effective. They're very reluctant, right? So let's distinguish what mobile operators, ISP providers are going to provide and what new services and capabilities and new models in this world of data science and predictive analytics is going to unleash, right? So the overlay networks of sensory IoT, I would go even beyond what Ze mentioned about 30 billion. I see a world in 10 years time of a trillion devices. The question when we get to a trillion devices, if you add up how many sensors you have around you, is how are we going to connect, right? So we have a connectivity economics thing. So yes, coming back to your question again, yeah, the operators struggling actually. We are all, we're actually taking some of the benefit of that, right? Right now, if you saw Verizon, Verizon joined the unlimited bundle package, because you cannot afford not to stay in the game, right? So the game is poker and it's becoming really a high-level poker game. Does service providers have a sense of where their opportunities are to monetize? I mean, looking at RQ over the last few years, it's been relatively flat, at least in the consumer space, a lot of what you see here, at least here in the US, are providers chasing each other, taking their customers away, and then losing them back based on the next deal. Where are the opportunities for new revenue streams that you see? So as you saw the new build on the hill, right, of allowing data sharing. So question again would be all these players have been building up data, and some of them having been leveraging the data, the data has been going over to the internet giants, the Googles and the Facebooks have been using all that traffic, data, analytics. So the real challenge now is, can these guys, can the service providers, right, and the new entrants, right, remember, more and more these operators are becoming more and more vertically integrated, they're acquiring other services like entertainment and other kinds of value-added services. How do they leverage all the data analytics and predictions behind that? And so those will help the business models. And of course, create lots of battles between the electronic freedom foundation, and the business model. It didn't, right? Yeah. So see, I had a question for you a little bit, to build on what you brought up earlier about speed, not necessarily speed being the key benefit of 5G, but also some of the low latency characteristics, what are some of the kinds of things that 5G will enable in an IoT world that aren't possible today in 4G, Wi-Fi, other kinds of services that are out there? That's not a good question. I think that 5G will enable that end of the application spectrum, which really needs high performance. And I think some of those applications are yet to be determined. We have seen customers wanting to do video feeds from certain devices that are monitoring either the driver of a vehicle or providing the capability of doing downloads of information at a much more rapid pace. I think that 5G will also enable in certain classes of automotive applications the ability to get functions that we wouldn't try to do today in 2G, 3G, or 4G, because it simply aren't fast enough. I don't believe 5G will be successful in the autonomous car revolution because the performance requirements there are pretty enormous. Certainly not necessarily the highest end of the self-driving car solutions, but certainly the level or two down from there has been defined by the autonomous car industry. That is where having some of this low latency high data rates will allow information to be sent to the vehicles and the fleets and the trucks at a rate fast enough for them to take advantage of that. So as you think about that potential future where you might have millions or even trillions as Utkar mentioned of devices, obviously it probably isn't scalable to have all of those devices connecting across 5G network back to a data center. How do we build out that infrastructure to potentially do localize processing? Where does that happen in a 5G environment? That's a darn good question. If I might just address one comment which I think is very important, remote processing, which Cisco likes to call fun computing and there are other terms associated with that are going to be key. We have to avoid creating haystacks of data while I absolutely agree that data analytics are vital to these applications. We have a tendency to create what I call somebody else actually term this coin. I love it. Data museums and we have to avoid that. We need to have relevancy that data has to arrive in a timely manner for the business purpose for that application to be fulfilled. Unless we can do that in a good way and make sure that the data is sent regardless of the transport of the information that is being sent, unless we can make sure that what we send is relevant to the application, we're in trouble. I think that the fog computing requirements that will be set, not necessarily at the sensors because they may be very dumb or the truth of the sensors will be out there, but certainly at the various gateways and other network elements along the way to provide that level of, I hate to use the word filtering, but I'd rather say remote processing of that information that is vital to the applications. Is that an opportunity I think for service providers to get into that space where they may have to have a lot more intelligence versus just carrying this? Absolutely. I think, okay, so I'll perhaps be a little argumentative here and question whether the service providers are in a position to do some of these things. Realistically speaking, the DNA of the organization is a critical factor and we're talking here about a very fundamentally different approach towards not just building a network but managing facilities. In principle, a service provider ought to be able to create those, let's say, shared resources, these fog data centers at the network edge, but there are all these issues of multi-tenancy and data sovereignty that are going to be very, very difficult to manage and if you look at who's done the best job of cracking those problems to date, that is new disruptive players. It's Amazon who would have thought Amazon would have any qualification in that space, but they have done a tremendous job. So the idea that connected car is going to be, if you'll pardon the expression, driven by the carrier community and carrier technologies, I'm not so sure. Yeah, I agree with that. So just taking on those steps or what Z mentioned and Terry, just to keep it going, keep the flow going, yes, don't get argumentative yet, I agree. So I'm busy, evolved in network transformation, bringing software defined networking to the mobile edge. So how do we bring, so we haven't been able to be successful as they are. We haven't been able to evolve the radio, but what we have been successful is transforming the data networks. So moving the software defined networking right to the mobile edge. Now the challenge we have right, like Terry's mentioned, is once we've got these connected cars, which we've been trying to do for the last 15 years, and to just bring a simple model in the connected car of active vehicle safety, we will have active vehicle safety in the next few years. There's no, the DOTs on that road. So as we have the active vehicle safety, what do we do with the car that's connected? Do we put storage in there? Do we put local computing? How much we put it in there, right? And then once we put it in there, how are we going to realize the connectivity around it? So when the cars parked, what do we do with the car parked? Can we use the parked car as a network densification model? So those are the some of the things that I'm busy involving is network transformation, using different business models and different players that have been sitting around for the last five or 10, 20 years. So does that pretend that 5G isn't necessarily the requirement that there could be evolution of messaging among connected devices? Exactly. Remember, I said overlay, right? So the operators want to leverage. Remember also that as we transformation into this 4G, there was consolidation on equipment manufacturers. So they have very little wiggle room on breaking down pricing. So they're struggling trying to get their revenue and their ROIs together. So how can they leverage existing 4G networks for even longer legibility? Let me ask you another question, just sort of honing in again on the economics and business case around 5G. Are you starting to see businesses looking at the kinds of services that can be delivered in a more connected world? We talked quite a bit about connected cars, but do businesses outside of the large automakers see any value in 5G or they're starting to look at it as more than just higher speed connectivity? Correct. So some of them. So it's all about bringing new service and business models. Remember, it's about risk reduction and risk management. So how can these guys use services of data and video in an economic way to reduce their risk or reduce their predictive. So there's more and more needs to have in better services. Anyone else have any comment about what they're seeing in terms of the kinds of services that are being enabled by 5G? Zee here, I think that that's a bit early at this stage yet. I have yet to see a single 5G capable radio that I would say could be used in an IoT application today. And I don't anticipate that for a number of years.  I think what one, you know, we're still seeing interesting evolutionary stages here with LTE. If you look at some of the recent rate plan announcements and network, let's say, updates around machine profile for LTE, where you're now seeing a dramatic change in the cost of a subscription for a sensor device. Now, it's dramatic when you compare it to what a traditional consumer ARPU is. It's still a long way from what it needs if you're going to have a trillion devices out there. So we've taken a step on the path, but there are many more steps to come. I'll take an example. And if you look at logistical tracking, for the last number of years, you have solutions that at the level of tracking perhaps a shipment container on a global basis. There's a business case for that. But you're not going to track an individual box or parcel with real-time data unless it's a very high-value object. Well, as the cost comes down, then the range of things which you can start to track, you know, today you go on to UPS and you can see where your parcel is, you can imagine and it's becoming reality that you will be able to track not just where it is, but its environmental conditions. If you're shipping medical materials, you'll have the ability to see what its historical lifetime shipment condition was. If you're shipping food or perishables, the cost effectiveness of tracking through the entire lifetime of that object becomes practical. And that's where the trillion, you know, when you get to the point where you have disposable sensors embedded in objects that you're transporting through the world, that's when we've really reached the point where it's transformational. But there's many steps on the path. It doesn't mean you have to wait until you've reached those economics before you can start to insert this in high-value transactions and tracking the drama that is delivering these packages is absolutely important. Correct. So as Terry was saying is transformation, let me throw another buzzword in here, guys, network slicing, right? So we will see, I'm busy involved in, as Terry knows I'm busy involved in enabling neutral venue hosting. So as we transform the networks to the mobile edge, we will be transforming and providing network slicing on different services and running on top of it. So a little, so those will be really, but so I think we'll see those subtle changes in the network, right? And those will be indicators that 5G is arriving, right? Rather than seeing a massive mobile radio head in my cell phone, right, at 38 gigs, right? We're still far away for when we're going to light up those street lamp posts, right? We're willing me to wave radio heads as an example. We're winding down. We've got a couple of minutes left. One last question I just kind of put out to everybody. There's a lot of different variants as a 4G and high cost of having to have different kinds of radios that speak on the Verizon network and the AT&T network and global networks and so on. Will 5G solve that? Will we have a single global universal 5G standard? Whoever would like to take that one? I think we'll have a standard, but we won't have consistent availability of spectrum. We're already seeing it fragmentation of spectrum allocations. Regulators just can't solve that problem and I don't see it happening with 5G. Correct, correct. So I'm an RF guy, it doesn't tell you, but I am. So my Holy Grail has always been SDR. So how do we use spectrum? How do we do what the military guys have been doing that's dynamic spectrum allocation? And we see signs of that. We see spectrum access managers coming online. We've seen new spectrums in 3.5 gigs and 5 gigs being made available, lightly reusing spectrums that are not occupied, right? And so the challenge we have again is how are we going to bundle these spectrum slots together, right? And make services out well. With that, we'll have to wrap up to the time. I really would like to thank all of you for joining us today, as well as our distinguished panel. And Dean, let me turn it up over to you for some closing comments. Thank you. You bet. Thank you, Erwin, for moderating today and thank you, panelists. You were all exceedingly insightful. Frankly, I thought maybe we should just order some lunch and keep this thing going all afternoon. I feel like we just barely scraped the surface. I can't thank you enough for joining us today. 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I started my slideshow with this instead of my normal slide which is just an introduction. Do me a favor and just read that for a minute. This was written by a woman who created a blog to write about her daughter. Her daughter was in her late teens and got sick and died. She took to writing on the internet as an outlet. Just let fly, let things out. After a while, people started emailing her and saying, I'm in a similar situation or I have this problem. What do I do? Asking her advice and she said, I don't know. I've not been in your situation. She started posting things to her blog that people had written her usually anonymously because there were things that could have gotten them beaten or killed if their family had found out or things like that. I met this woman online and I asked her if she would be willing to come to WordCamp, and she said she would try but she lives in Delhi which is a long way away. She couldn't make it. But this story has stuck with me over time. I asked her to write for HeroPress and she said no. She was a little too shy of her English. I asked her if I could write about her and she said yes. And I haven't yet. It's in draft. I'm working on it. I asked her if I could talk about her and her story here and she said yes. So this is the kind of story that we're going to talk about today. Chrome puts up a message there. So Freedom of the Press is guaranteed only to those who own one. This is where WordPress comes in. It's where the internet really comes in. People got the voice to speak out and publish to the world on the internet before WordPress came out. But WordPress has really made it a lot easier. And it's hard to understand in America how amazing it is to have a voice that speaks to the world because it's easy for us to say things. It's easy for us to save up a few bucks and put an ad on TV or the radio or even on the internet now. But there are a lot of places in the world where it's hard to say things either because it's actually technically difficult or because there's fear of retribution. Something that's not in my slides because it just happened the other day. Somebody filled out the form on HeroPress.com to do a HeroPress essay and he said I'm from Turkey. And I blog and I build websites and I've had a really hard time blogging because the government keeps taking down my stuff. And when the coup happened, my entire server disappeared and I don't know what happened to all my stuff. It's just gone. We don't think about that here. I mean, there's a lot of servers in Southern California and when California falls into the ocean, you're going to lose some stuff. But it's probably all backed up somewhere. We don't worry about people with guns showing up and saying you have to stop saying what you're saying. So this talk is about HeroPress, which tells the stories of WordPress. How many people have never heard of HeroPress before this weekend in this talk? Okay, a few. That's actually kind of heartening to see how many people have heard of it. HeroPress came out of a conversation with a young man in India who was working for a WordPress agency. He had been a freelancer and he got together with some freelancer friends and they made it an agency. And they were really struggling to get quality contracts. As freelancers, they had been working through sites that list jobs. And most of those jobs that they had been taking were for low dollars. And they found that they ran into the stigma of being an Indian agency means you work for cheap and the work is not really that great. And they were excellent. They were good. But they just couldn't get work. So he asked me, what do I do? How can I do better in business? And I thought, man, I'm not very good at business. And I don't know anything about business in India. But I wanted to help him. So I thought, who would know about business in India? Well, probably somebody who has built a successful business in India. So I asked some friends and they said, well, have you talked to the organizers of WordCamp Pune? They run a WordPress agency. I said, no, no, that's great. Let me connect them. And they connected and exchanged advice. And I thought, wow, that's great. If I could figure out a way to connect other people that way to find someone with a need and then find someone who has overcome that need and put them together, that would be fantastic. I'm not going to tell the whole story because it's really long. But we were going to make videos. It would be like TED or TEDx. And that didn't work out. And so we moved to a text-based solution. And it's technologically, it's just a blog. It's just a blog. But I curate the essays. They come from other people. Only occasionally do I write on hero press. And originally it was going to be talks from people on the fringe of the WordPress community. People who are not part of the Western world, as it were. And it occurred to me that, and I started to think of it as people on the fringe of the community. And it occurred to me that, in many ways, everybody's on the fringe of some community. In technology, there are far more men than women. And so at some level, women are inherently on the fringe of the WordPress community. Just because there are far fewer of them, they have a smaller voice. They have less opportunity to, I don't know, rise up and impact the world, I guess, as a group. I thought for a long time I probably would not have a white American male. Because they sit at the top of the privilege pile, right? But my friend Kyle grew up in a very rural community with a relatively poor education and very poor prospects for a job in life at all. And he got into WordPress and built something. I said, man, you need to write to every other American and say, you know, there's a way here. You can do this yourself. You can make this happen. So HeroPress always has been and will always be about people imparting wisdom and inspiration to their peers.  When I asked someone to do an essay, I tell them you can write to other people in your city or your age group or your gender or whatever. The message belongs to the person and I want them to give the message to the person that they think needs it. So where did you come from? What did you overcome? Write to yourself five years ago because there are a lot of people out there who are just like you and want to know how to overcome what you did to grow the way you did, to move the direction you did. Freedom, I've noticed, has become a common theme in HeroPress essays. So this talk was going to be the stories of the people of HeroPress. So I'm going to tell you some stories today. And the first one is Anonymous in Pakistan. This is a young woman who wrote to me three weeks ago and she said, I live in Lahore, capital city, and I am a lesbian and that is against the law here. And so if it's possible, I would like to do mine anonymously because if I give out my name, I could be killed. She had to leave college. She cannot get a job. And so she got into WordPress somehow. I don't know yet. I haven't seen her story yet. She got into WordPress and she works from home and she makes a good living and she doesn't have the fears of working with people who are going to hate her, throw acid in her face, try and kill her, whatever. Samir Bekhara is from Lebanon. He's from a very small city and he said 95% of the people in his city are his direct relatives. It is a family that grew into a city. It's just one of those Middle Eastern families that just grew and stuck together. And like I said, it's a small town. It's not a big city. And they do what their ancestors have done for years.  And he got into technology and he learned about WordPress and he started building websites for the people in his city and then the people in his country and now he builds websites for people outside his country. And he's pretty alone. There aren't other web developers in his city. And so his sense of community in the WordPress community is very limited. He doesn't go to word camps. He can't go to word camps. There are no meetups. And so being on Slack has been helpful. He's really into LinkedIn, which surprised me. I don't know anybody else who's really into LinkedIn, but it was inspiring to see him being able to make a living that way, living where he does. Dunbosa from Nigeria. He's actually here this weekend. Is he in the room? No. Oh, yes, in the back. He's making a living with WordPress. I actually don't know the size of the WordPress community there. I know a couple of other web developers in Nigeria, but he's able to make a living, make a business out of nothing. I mean, what is WordPress? It's nothing. It's code. You download it and you magically make things. Carl Alberto from the Philippines. He lives close enough to the center of Manila that he can see it. He lives on a hill. He can see the center of Manila. It takes him three hours to drive there, three hours to drive home. So he got into WordPress and immediately got a job downtown, which was terrible for his family. He spent six hours a day in a car. And he said, there's got to be a better way. And so he found a job with a company in Finland. And now he stays home with his kids and spends six hours a day with his family instead of driving. Ayla View. She kind of trolled me. It took me three months to figure out that wasn't her real name. She's from Japan. She lived right near Fukushima with her boyfriend. And they were already working with WordPress. They were building themes, niche themes specifically related to athletic teams. And the earthquake hit and things fell apart. And her boyfriend was not working at the time and they said, you know what? Let's get out of here. And they moved to Australia because they could. They had the money. You know, I said he wasn't working. He was working with her. They were working together to build this company. And they just moved. They just left because WordPress allowed them to just pick up and go. Rocio Velivia works for Automatic, actually. She's from Spain, but she currently lives in Greenland. Anybody ever been to Spain? Is it warm there? Anybody ever been to Greenland? It's not warm there. But her husband got a job in Greenland and a way they went. And she is able to just pick up, take her job and go. And no one cares because she can work from anywhere. Kayla Jenkins Medina from Belize. She's a young mother. She works in a bank. She's a teller. Every morning she gets up. She feeds her kids. She goes to work. She comes home at lunch. She feeds her kids. She goes back to work. She comes home at supper. She feeds her kids. And then all evening long, she sits in the couch next to her husband and builds WordPress sites. And she is working to change her family's entire life. She doesn't want to get up and go to work every day and leave her family. And she's building a company. She is making money. And she's getting closer every day to not going to the bank every day and being home with her family. Robert Chiluca from Malawi. His essay is the one most recent right now. And I would appreciate it if you'd go read it sometime. This one really meant a lot to me. Before he wrote to me a couple of weeks ago, he had never spoken to anyone else in the WordPress community. He's been running a WordPress agency for two years. And he never spoken to anyone else in the WordPress community because he felt ashamed of his country, of the way technology works there. Malawi is the poorest country in the world. And there is no way in Malawi to buy things online. The closest you can get is PayPal. And you can only use PayPal if you have a credit card. And Malawian banks don't give out credit cards. So no one has PayPal. And that's it. There's a company called Payoneer, which is intended specifically to help with that. And they're popular in Nigeria and Senegal and other countries like that. But they're not in Malawi. There's nothing there. And so every time he gets online to look for help with a coding problem and he finds a tutorial that says sign up here for $10, he's out. Every time he wants to download a plugin to accomplish a goal and it says it's only $65, he's out. The average monthly income in Malawi, monthly income is $110. Think about that the next time you go look at a plugin shop and every plugin is $45, $65, $85. There's just no way. So he makes his living making websites for local companies who can pay him in local currency. I figured it out. It's like $45 is like $72,000. Kwaka, I think they use, which is inflation that just boggles my mind. Poor station in the world where he can't buy anything. For two years, he's had a business, a company, supporting himself, supporting family members. And that's amazing to me. There are some people who are too shy to tell their own stories and these people sometimes don't make it to hero press. Sima Tijasweidrao is the woman who wrote that quote, that post at the very beginning. She doesn't have a problem with people knowing her story but she doesn't want to, she doesn't want to be the one to tell it. Sunny Luthor from Pune is a young man who's actually quite wealthy. He built something for Facebook and made a lot of money and now he does not work. So what he did, he went to the candy store every day and bought candy and there were kids outside who never got candy. They begged every day. So he bought them candy and it made him happy, made him very happy and he thought, man, how about other people would like to be happy too? So he built a tool with WordPress where people can log in and buy candy. So he takes the money, he buys the candy, he takes a picture of the kid with the candy and sends the picture back to the person who bought it. And we're talking micro-transactions. We're talking 35 cents here. He's not making anything. It brings him joy to facilitate this. So I did a post on hero press about him. He didn't want to write about it. He said, you know, if you want to tell people that's cool. I'm going to be over here giving out candy. Some people can't tell their story. Nashwan lives in Yemen. I don't know if you've been watching the news, but Yemen's been at war for a long time. I worked with Nashwan at X-Team for about three weeks. He was in college at the time and realized that he couldn't do college and work at the same time. So he went back to school. And at the time I said, hey, you know, were you right? And he's like, oh yeah, that'd be great. I'd love to write. And then I didn't hear from him and I couldn't get a hold of him. And the war started and he wasn't responding to anything. I thought maybe he's gone. And probably six months ago I heard from him on Facebook. And it turns out he's living in a small home with a lot of people in the hills hiding out from people who want to kill him. And you know, we talked a long time. I asked him tons of questions. And I said, do you still want to write? He's like, I can't write. I can't do it. He hasn't worked in WordPress in a year and a half because he doesn't have a computer. He doesn't have electricity. I hope someday he is free again and can do things and maybe tell a story. But right now he can't. Anonymous in Chicago. And actually there are a lot of anonymous people who said I can't tell my story. I can't say it. People who've come through terrible circumstances and rebuilt their life with WordPress. Something I've learned is that stories impact everyone they touch. This top quote here is from a hero press contributor. And she found that writing her story changed herself dramatically. It changed her view of life. It changed how she lived every day. Just writing it. Just unloading, getting it out there. Changed everything. The middle quote is from me because I am quite sure that no one in the world has been more changed by hero press than me. Every story I hear, every conversation, every essay has behind it a one or two or three hour conversation about where they've been, where they're going, dreams, goals. And some of them are hard, some of them are just brilliant, some of them are joyous. Came to me a few months ago and said where is the donate button on herobus.com? I need to give you money. I said there's no button. There's no money. I mean I'm not... I wouldn't know what to do with money if I took it. And he said well, I have this money and it needs to go to you. And I said well, I'm going to work camp Europe. You could help out with that. And he's like sure, and he mailed me money. And this is his quote. He owns a WordPress agency. He is at the top of the heap. He's making lots of money. And he's building big elaborate websites for really high dollar companies. HeroPress is what nails him to the ground and makes him realize that WordPress is more than $100,000 contracts. It's more than... I'm sorry, I said HeroPress. WordPress is more than $100,000 contracts. It's more than sponsoring or making a living for your own family. It's more than providing for all your employees. WordPress is for everyone. For everything. Life isn't about software. It's about people. It's about love and joy and pain and sorrow. It's about communication. It's about being human together. It's about us. WordPress helps people make stories and HeroPress tells those stories. That's my last slide and I have like two minutes. But I want to say, right now HeroPress is just a blog. It's essays that come out every Wednesday. They're good stories. They're good stories about other people. People who are different from you, different from me. And about how they change their world. And I'd appreciate it if you'd go read them. Because I think it could make everybody a bit better. Question. Hey, Tofer, first of all, I want to say thank you for doing this. Because I honestly think that this is one of the best projects within the community. So, Kudos. Thank you. Second, my question to you is, how would you like to see HeroPress grow in the future? I get that question a lot. So, oh, she was on the mic. You probably heard. How do I want HeroPress to grow? I think about this all the time. And I come up with ideas all the time. And there are a few ways that I know I want it to grow. There are a million ways that I think maybe I want it to grow. I've always wanted to have it be multilingual. But that's a personal goal. I've had a lot of people who are not English speakers say, nah, don't put your work there. Put your work somewhere else. So, I listen to those people. But it still might happen someday. Because I think it's a great idea. An idea that I've had recently is trying to put together a bundle of software and services from common and popular companies and giving it away quarterly to someone who applies for that scholarship. Somebody like Robert and Malawi get a lifetime license for mainstream paid plugins and not have to worry in the future about whether or not he can afford that. So, that's one idea I'm excited about. Can I follow up on that? What's that? Can I follow up on that, please? Sure, yeah. So, if people are asking to send you donations, can you not tell them to put those donations towards something like that, a scholarship? Possibly, yes. I have been thinking that I would go to the people who sell these plugins and have them give them away so the money wouldn't necessarily need to go there. Yeah, money's been a weird thing with WordPress. I have a little bit of sponsorship right now from XWP which I appreciate very much. But I don't know exactly what to do with it. Next question. Hey, Tofer. I just wanted to say I remembered the original Kickstarter when this was all just an idea and... I can't see. Who are you? Kevin. All right. Hey, Kevin from WordPress. Just wanted to say I remembered it being a really kind of silly debate about the word hero and whether we consider ourselves heroes and seeing what you've done is just like... It makes that seem so trivial. Thanks. So, I wanted to say if you're up for doing it again or if you need help, give it another shot because I think you have the proof now. All right. Thank you. Thank you for the support. Yes. Oh, for Leah Foster. So, how do you live? All right. The question is if I'm not making money from HeroPress, how do I live? HeroPress takes about five hours a week and I do that on my own time. So, to live, I have a day job. I build websites with Modern Tribe. I will probably build websites for the rest of my life for somebody or other. So, you know, I just make money other ways. So, you're employed. I am employed. This is a hobby. Yep. This is my hobby. Sure. Yep. Thank you. Mm-hmm. So, people's stories to the world. Yep. Sure. And you're also involved with the American Indian tribes. So, is that something that you are involved in? Is that your origin or something you want to do? Okay. So, the question is HeroPress is a form of activism. Am I involved in political activism or any other types of activism? And no, I'm not. Politics bore me two tears. This is my form of activism, I guess. This is what I do. Thank you. Mm-hmm. And it looks like that's it. Thank you.


Hair alive, every bow day. Let's turn some lights on. Bam. Hope you're ready to get artsy fartsy, because today we're doing a board with us. Nope, a paint with us, because we're doing alcoholics. One moment, one moment. I'm going to give people some time to get up in here. And take a shot. What is that? What? Where? Oh. Yes, this is Rumpel. And I'm going to drink it. See, babe? We need to pick up our airbags. Hey, go get some shoes on. Stop talking to me in the studio. I'm not in the studio. Your foot was in and around inside the baby gate. Don't even. Right here? You're in the studio out there. I'm not. I've just been waiting for the opportunity to say it. OK, I'm only nailing. Don't be somewhere. I love you. What's up? Squared table degenerates. Yo, yo, yo. What's up, Heidi? So if you're new, sup. I'm Erica. This is artist till death. Jeff's over here with no shoes on in the studio, because I'm the responsible one. Who knew? And our co-star Bowie's over there, holding down his end of the table. Bowie, what's up? Cool. You're cutie. Kujo's on window duty. Tutors doing orders. Life is good. And we're going to art. Who can fly? But he's going to end up calling you. Jacqueline, Darla, Shane, are you guys having an awesome day? I hope so. So what I was saying was, is we're at a still death. We are artists, and we go live every day, usually. Usually at 6 PM central, except for on Tuesdays, 2 PM central. And yeah, it's usually resin. Today, twillby alcohol inks. I'm going to get you closer up in here. We have VAM, Long Time No Talk. Denise. So, hey, Arlene. Yeah, I told you guys a few days ago that I will be doing an alcohol ink piece similar to this one, but with just one color. And I welcomed you guys to join me in doing this. Told you all the materials. And now we're going to do it. It's going to be amazing. Also, you may hear Luigi in the background, my T tiny baby boy dog. He has a heart condition and a trachea condition. So you'll hear him, but he's fine. Hi, big boy. Go lay down. We've just given him some medicine, so hopefully he won't be too coffee. So if you weren't around when I told you guys we were going to do this, what you'll need is something to alcohol ink on, some alcohol, synthetic paintbrush, and some alcohol inks, unless you want to get extra with it with me. In that case, you'll need some hot glue and a paint pen. So, hi, Megan, Diana, Libby, Gail. We are well. I hope you guys are as well. So I'm actually going to do a diptych for this piece. So step one is going to be to draw out our little shapes. You don't have to be extra and do a diptych. I'm just doing it because reasons. So if you do a diptych, you have to continue the design from one to the next. And essentially, I'm doing tortoise shell shapes around your corners. Goodness. I'll wipe all this. OK, Kujo, can you guys hear me OK? I had to switch my headphones. This is not working. Let's try this. Step 10. So yeah, can you guys hear me OK? OK. I just switched headphones. I'm just going to wipe off that eraser mess.  Libby, are you still buffering? OK. Don't draw your lines on too harsh unless you have a really good eraser. Really want to make these lines and make sense. I don't want it to look like it's overlapping. So that's why I'm erasing these parts out much better. This is probably, for me, one of the hardest parts of doing moves. Lay down, big boy. Yeah, for me, this is like the hard part. But you just want to make fun little lines. There we go. G.O.'s come in all kinds of shapes and sizes, so don't get too obsessive with what shapes you're working with because they are in all kinds of shapes and sizes. There we go. Oh, kneaded erasers are the best. I'm going to be using pinks, but with browns. And maybe rose gold, maybe brass. So the inks I'm using are from Ranger, Maribou, Pinata, possibly Copic, and Zig. So once you have this done, let me know, you guys, if I moved too fast at any point. I'm not using Canvas Slippy. I'm using some of my alcohol ink panels. This is actually on my website. It's made out of melamine, so it won't warp on you. It's shiny. It's just ready to go out of the box. You don't have to prep it, open the box, and just go. These are 10 by 10 size. If you guys want bigger sizes, I can make larger sizes available. Dropped an ink. So, Kido-Ki, I'm going to start outlining this, my shapes with hot glue. If you guys want me to wait or anything, slow down. Just let me know, and I'll slow down for you guys. So I'm using a really cheap. Probably I spent less than $5 on this hot glue gun because it doesn't turn into lava. And because it doesn't get that hot, these hot glue lines that I'm making will stick up higher. I'm just going to follow the lines that I already have made. And I mentioned this in some of my videos already, but if you get those hot glue strings, you can apparently put your hot glue sticks in the freezer. But I keep forgetting that you can do that, so I can't speak firsthand on how well that works. Hi, B. It is very dark over here. OK, you want to turn some lights on for me? Thanks. The lights are on. Well, I mean the studio lights. Sweet. Thank you. So I really appreciate all you guys watching. If you haven't subscribed, make sure you do that.  You may as well subscribe. Help the channel out. And great. My line's crooked, but that's OK. Nothing in nature is perfect, right? And share a video if you like it or share it with people you don't like if you didn't like it. I can't know, B. Hello, Sue. Oh, yeah. And please leave me your thumbs up or down. I don't care. Just leave me your thumbs. I need your thumbs. So yesterday, I told people that I was going to do a giveaway for the favorite, if you told me in the comments what your favorite chameleon was from Too Faced. I forgot to draw a winner, but I will do that and post it for tomorrow's video. Who invented hot glue? Because he's a pretty genius person. I bet he is doing all right. Will this be y'all's first alcohol ink geode? Or have you guys done it before? First one done. Looks a little tortoise shelly, doesn't it? We did this on a countertop down in Seguin at RK3 Studios, and it looks so cool. This is a point in the process where you can kind of change up what you want your shapes to look like. If there's one that you're like, I'd rather it look this way instead. Just hot glue over it. The world is your geode. P.S. my trigger finger is getting really weak at this point.  Still in the land of no resin, though. Never done a geode, should. Australia's beautiful. I think they're back on lockdown. A shoemaker in 1940s invented the glue gun. Before that, everyone burned themselves with hot glue in a pot. Didn't know that. OK. Almost done with this boring bit. When you lay these lines of hot glue down, try to make sure that you're in full contact with the board. Otherwise, your alcohol will go under your line of hot glue. And it could mess up some of your other geodes. And that's no fun. You also don't want to make them too flat. Make sure your lines line up if you're doing a diptych like this. But don't hot glue them right next to each other because they're going to be displayed with a little bit of a gap between. And you don't want the hot glue to glue your two sides together. Bam. Looks amazing. OK. I got you, Gail. I invested in a no-seal bag from Nordstrom. They said, thank you, but we don't need that. They have it in 20 years later. I'm confused, Anise. I like the way it looks already, too. I think I'm going to do something at some point with just the clear hot glue because I like how it looks, even though I know it would yellow. So I'll have to account for that later. Right. Now I have a cup of 90, 1% alcohol. Subtutor. Gotcha. So should have put a patent on it, right? So I'm going to get a paper towel, right? Tink Arlene. I'm not sponsored by Truly, but if you're watching, Subtink, right, Libby, I get it. Worth or Hard and AutoCorrect makes it even more default. All right, I'm going to go ahead and pre-open my inks. I just pulled out a random assortment of, you're fine, too, browns and pinks. Wonder how long till the boys realize that that's someone at the door. We've got all of them open. I start with my darkest colors and my metallics on the outside edge of my G-weights and work my way inwards. Hey, Melissa. Hey, Susan, that sounds awesome. All right, I'm going to start with, we'll just start over here. I'm going to put this color is Natural Gray by Zig. It's going to put some of that down. And I guess I'm going to start with what is this? Metallic Bronze by Marabu. I take some alcohol. What's happening? Do it. Jeff was about to try on some of my shorts. You can, too. All right, looks like this color is going to be a little bit soft, but we'll see. OK. Next, I'm going to take my second darkest. Well, I guess let's try this. What is this? Cranberry by Ranger. And just put it just on the inside of that ring of color, a little bit more alcohol. You want to do this while all the alcohol is still wet on your first line.  Then I kind of clean my brush off just a little bit before I keep going so that it gets lighter and lighter. I think I'll like that one, but we're going to let it live, move on to the next one, and then we'll come back to it. Because sometimes they change as they dry. What's your favorite ink brand? My favorite alcohol ink, it's hard to say. It all depends on the color, essentially. Libby says, we hit 48.3,000. What are we going to do for the 50,000 subscribers? We're going to have a super big sale on the website. And I'll get Jeff to do a dance for you guys on the live feed. I think I like this dark. It looks brown to me, but it on here says natural gray. Let's do gold on this one. I'm using Jacquard Pinata alcohol ink. This is probably one of my favorite golds. Have you seen any of your AI art pieces a year later and have you noticed fading at all? Yeah, I have some up in my hallway. I haven't noticed any fading, but I don't drop my alcohol inks into resin, which is one of the major culprits of inks fading. I sealed them really well. This gold just looks so natural. The way it just pushes the other inks around, that looks super rocky. OK, let's do a light pink on this one. This color is called Pink Sherbet. It's from Ranger.  It's such a soft, awesome pink color. And since I have a little bit of that gray color on my brush already, I'm just going to let it stay there. I think I pretty much like this one. I'm not going to fiddle with it too much, I say as I fiddle with it more. Cool. All right, so that's the basic gist of it.  Hey, Tiffany, you didn't miss much at all. Marabu just came out with a whole bunch more colors that look completely awesome. So on the dark bits, I just kind of make them intermingle and then let it just do what it's going to do. That was just some residual off my paintbrush. What other color do I have over here? This is the pale rose. On each one of these, I'm going to just follow the same process. I need to start getting a little bit lighter.  Let's put another little bit of a gold line in there. Also, after all this is done, I'm going to add some paint lines to each of these so it'll look even more natural. I think I'm just going to pick up some ink from up here. I think I'm pretty sure I'm really going to like this. I'll probably put a clear coat once it's completed. So now I'm going to try this caramel color from Ranger. Just to switch up our outline color. What is this? Metallic copper from Marabu. Oh, it says, I would have called this ruby. I may just drop a lot of ink into this and let it kind of intermingle and fade and it'll look really cool. But I want to keep my edges metallic. So we're just going to let that evaporate on its own. OK, this is called caramel from Marabu. I don't think I've used this, so we're going to discover what it looks like together. Also looks very light, some gold. I'm just pushing it all the way up to the edge. This is really the only part where I have a lot of alcohol in my brush because I want it to move freely. Let's use another light color over here. What is this? Pale rose. This one's not super light, so we're just going to use a couple drops. Alcohol. I always turn my brush sideways to close off a pull of color, very much like when I swipe and use resin. That looks a little bit more like a flower than I wanted it to, but I think it still looks good, so I'm going to leave it. OK, let's do a couple more dark ones. Wait, that's not the dark. Where's my this? It says natural gray, but it looks like espresso from Ranger. Don't forget to shake up your metallics because they will separate, and then the color just doesn't look cute. Tutor's breaking stuff. That's what you're hearing. I'm going to scoot this just a little bit closer so I can make sure my design flows. I really like this soft one. I think that was the pink sherbet. Let's do a little bit more. Well, I don't have to put more down. I'm just going to pick up some of the natural gray. Cute. I think that might be my favorite pink to use on this, but that rose is nice too. Oh, Denise, that sounds like an awesome TV. So I'm just interchanging the colors. So I have some of this rose gold from Ranger, but I think it may be a little bit too silver for this piece, but we'll do a couple of them and see what we think. Never know when you're going to be pleasantly surprised, but since that's so light, let's use a little bit of a darker. We'll use the pale rose for this one, a chameleon that one. I don't think I'm going to close that one off. I'm going to leave it open. What do you think, Toots? Yeah. I leave it so that it can just do. What does it say? For what? I'll come see. Will you grab Bowie? Sorry, guys, I got to step into this shop real quick. I'm so sorry about my sniffles. Oh, so on this first one, it says they want. So it's the 6, 6 and 3, but then an additional one medium stick, large, I think. I'm back. I can't wait to show you this piece from all the different angles because it looks super neat. I always try to pick up some of the gold line with my color line so that when I move down just a little bit, it has some of that look. Glue string. Hope I got it. You can't decide which one is your favorite. Thanks, you guys. I think I need to do another one of this color so it balances out some. But I think I'm going to use it as the dark stone outside area. Just need to find that color. Here it is. So I'm going to use the cranberry as the outside shade along with some gold. I think this one's going to look awesome. If not, then I'll drop a little bit of that gray that actually looks brown into it. I'm just going to clean off my brush really well and use this color and work my way in to the center. Sweet. I'm going to show you what the gold is looking like. It's crazy how it just naturally flows into a design that's very reminiscent of natural geodes. Are you going to do any with a mirror effect? Sure, I can do some with a mirror effect. So let's start with this pale pink color. Let's do it in this one. And if we don't like it, we'll turn it into an actual geode. I'm going to half load my brush with alcohol because I want it to flow and move into the other colors. I'm just working these back and forth, making sure to get all the way into the crevices of your hot glue. Do your very best to pull straight lines. Kind of difficult because the alcohol kind of blobs and moves on its own. I just kind of keep moving and working back and forth. And then if you want to make some lighter areas, really clean your brush off so that there's hardly any anything on it. And then what you're doing is essentially a relief.  So it's on the end of the brush instead of on the surface. You do thin ones like that, or you can do thicker ones like that, or the thicker ones that may take a couple passes. But when you do that, you're going to essentially be pushing the color outward. So it'll make a dark outline around where you pull the color out. And if you decide that you'd rather not have it quite so stark in that area, just pick some ink up and kind of travel it back over that way. Kind of trying to implant more color into it because it looked a little bit too even with these two parallel lines. But I'll revisit that in a minute. So I like doing these easy alcohol ink geodes so much, but it is a lot of fun. I think it looks nice. It's not that difficult to create. And I've had a lot of awesome feedback on this design style. And I know you guys are probably tired of alcohol in geodes and oceans. So I promise I'll switch it up a little bit more for you guys. I just get into a mode where I do something and I love how it looks. And so that's all I want to do is perfect that look. Probably not the only one, but I want to pick up some gold. There we go. You probably could do it with India ink, but use water instead of alcohol. Let's do another mirror right here. I think I need to pick up just a couple dabs of a darker color. I think it's easier to do the mirror look with edge pieces like this or smaller sections. All right, on this one, I'm going to do another one kind of like this and just let the alcohol evaporate and let the colors do what they're going to do. I wonder what it would look like if I dropped the glitter glass in first. Then it would like the ink would kind of, I'm going to put a little bit of ink first. And then in theory, as it dries, it's going to dry around the glass in theory. So it'll leave a little bit of a textured ink look. Let's drop some. I also brought some rainbow. Marabu? Thanks so much, Shane. Marabu has this weird binder in it. That'll help this glass stick. No, it's not on. Hold on. All right. I know I use rainbow probably, arguably, too much. Moving on. Let's do another light colored. The thing about bringing the classes back, but then super COVID decided not to do that. But once super COVID's done with, then we'll start doing classes again, because I've had a lot of requests to do in-person classes. Should I do an alcohol ink in-person class? Is that something you guys would come to? Also, I've been thinking about doing a collab with an acrylic artist and do one day acrylic ink. Nope, acrylic ink is not a thing. One day do acrylic, pour, and then the next day do resin. What do you guys think about that idea? More online classes? I don't have any silver in this piece. It's all warm tones. Acrylic ink. Yeah, there's acrylic inks. There definitely are acrylic inks. For me, doing this kind of artwork is very relaxing. I don't really have to think too much. And anytime, I don't have to think. It's a good day. Sometimes I'll do a double pass to make sure it's even, because when you start your poll, sometimes it doesn't look the same as when you end your poll. Pick up some of that dark color. I think I want a little bit more dark. I'm just going to pick it up off the bottle. That didn't work. It's going a lot darker than I wanted it to initially, but I really like where it's going. Next one I will do with silver tones. Yeah, these are melamine boards. I'm out of the porcelain paper. I actually have these boards available for sale on my website if you're interested. I only have them available in the 10 by 10. But if it's something you guys are really interested in, I can make them in larger sizes. Agreed, Libby. Just adding a few drops of the alcohol ink rainbow to give a little bit more texture to that outside ring. I might do that over here too. I use Marabu a lot to just create texture, because it moves. I think there's like a blender solution in it. I don't really know, but it looks good. OK. Also, if you're going to do a few of the mirror-look ones, you want to do them in alternating directions. You don't want them all to be facing the same way. So it won't make no sense. A lot of the beauty and geodes comes from the randomness, in my opinion. Libby, what is what again? I think you're thinking for Micah. Oh. The thing I just used was the Marabu Rainbow alcohol ink. It's got an awesome little sparkle to it. So let's use Caramel right here. JK, it has decided to go off duty. Oh, there it goes. Trying to shake my gold without having to put the lid on it and without getting it everywhere. It's impossible. What's the problem, Boba? Just a drop of that cranberry to deepen the color a little bit. It's kind of a cool thing about this stuff is you can mix alcohol ink from other, like a whole bunch of different brands and create custom shades if you want to. Where's my this? No time troll. Move it along. Gotta love troll patrol. Thank you, Vamp. A lot of times you guys won't even see when we have a troll because Vamp's so quick to address it. Let's do a dark fade out one. I guess that's what I'll call these is like a fade out. Hi, Bee. Do you want to do one? Cool. Looks awesome. Just stand there right like that the whole rest of the live feed. You really going to stand there the rest of the live feed? No? I'll see you later. Who haven't had any trolls in a while? This should work on canvas, right? I've done alcohol piece on canvas, much more abstract where I didn't mind it kind of having a mind of its own. I usually heavily prep before I do inks on canvas so that it flows easy. You don't want it to just soak into the canvas. I'm putting a couple drops of Marabu throughout some of these so that they kind of tie in together. He's going to go dance with Lance Bass. They were going to know anyway. I'm kind of just flicking on some Marabu because if you guys have followed me for any amount of time, you know that this is very much my style. I like the dots. I like their randomness. Cool, cool, cool. Tight, tight, tight. I'm going to let this dry for a minute and pick up these inks. And then we'll move on with the next part. Well, Tudor, have fun dancing the night away. Get me a signature, a Lance Bass signature. Hopefully he's not like, don't you know who I used to be? I'm not signing anything. Oh, the guy? OK. So I'm going to take all of, nope, close one more. Have an awesome time, Tudor. B-R-B. All right. Now we just got to make sure it's dry. Main thing is up under the hot glue, sometimes the alcohol and the ink like to get up under there and not dry. Dry, excuse me. Thank you, Libby. Right. Tay. I feel so adult cleaning up my little mess. No, I don't think so. Think. All right. Next, we need to seal it. To do that, I'm going to use UV archival and matte. Very important to use matte instead of any other kind, because the other kinds will kind of reactivate your inks, because they're alcohol-based sometimes. At least the gloss one is. Keep that in mind. OK. This stuff doesn't take long to dry at all, but we're going to help it out a little bit. Thanks a bit. You can either use a gold paint pen or liquid gold. I'm going to use liquid gold because it kind of wraps around the hot glue. You just have to find it. Here we are. I have this stuff on my website. It's MTN liquid gold. So I'm just going to take a little bit of it and paint these lines and let kind of the excess just drip down around our hot glue lines. And if a little bit of it goes into your geode, that's perfectly fine, because it's gold-based anyways. You're going to fill these triangle voids with the gold as well. It's way quicker than a paint pen. However, a paint pen will also work.  I guess you could also use a dark brown or a black if you so choose. Watch your step over there. Why did you get Bowie so hype? Oh, that was me. She would always be forgetting something. So Jeff is dropping his keys down. Almost made a whole mess. Hi, B. Some of them are a little crazy. 48.3. Getting closer and closer to that 5K. That's not what I was. I apologize. Huh. I don't know. I blame Tudor. Even though I definitely wasn't Tudor with me. Totally me. And we got them all. We got them. Just adding a few gold lines into some of these. Just following the designs that we already laid out. I thought I wanted to do gold splatters, but I'm not going to. So if you use a brush with this stuff, clean it right away. Because it will most certainly ruin a paintbrush. All art is for sale. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, you guys. So now you can add gold glitter lines if you so choose. Let me see what I got over here. I'm sure I have some gold glitter somewhere. I mean, I have to have some gold glitter, right? This one's kind of brown, but it's small shard glitter. It looks like all the gold glitter I have over here is big shards. We don't want that. So I'm just going to use sticky pen to be quicker. Let's see. Let's put some on the outside of this right here. Don't put too many lines of glitter out, because you would need to remember where it came from. And I will forget. I'm just going to only do those. I also have this, but it may be too big a flake. Nah, it'd be good. Glitter is always an option, my children. Yeah, I've already forgotten where all I put it. But you can't have all of one color glitter on one side. You have to kind of spread the love a little bit. Cool. And I have this glitter. She's got a ring in here. And if you don't like glitter, you don't have to use glitter. I, however, am a fan. Well, that doesn't look. I'm going to white-gap it in a couple places, but I'll just fix that right now. Oh, yes. So this is a sticky pin. It's actually called an adhesive pin. It's from Deco Foil Eyecraft. Get it on Amazon. I haven't heard from Shine a little bit. This is not correct. Where am I? I think I'm going to use a little bit of our new Super Rainbow Glitter as well. I just hope I remember all the places I just put all this glue. OK, I spoke to Nene not too long ago. She's just dealing with some life. I don't carry this glitter yet, but I will soon. We've got it on order. And if you haven't seen it yet, I'm about to blow your mind. What is it, Bowie? I know it. Do we help Bowie when you get a second? We just want to bathe in this stuff. We just want to wear it for the rest of forever. I don't need to wear it to go somewhere. I just want to wear it for just to wear it. OK, only two seconds. And I'm going to give you a close-up of that glitter. I want to dust off a little bit, make the lines look a little bit cleaner. All right, you guys ready? No one's ready. Look at that. Why is it so beautiful? It's pretty fine. You say bathe. I say roll. I love that. I've got it on order. It's true vamp. It's true. Like, how does it lay in perfect rainbow-ness? Right, TG? It is fine, all right. That's not right. There we go. All right, and now the last thing I'm going to do for this piece today is add some glitter glass. So I'm going to use the bottle with the lady, Mona Lisa. It's frame. I don't know what it's called yet. I don't carry it yet, so I can't really release anything about it, but I'll have it on the website soon. So this is by Speedball, Mona Lisa, Mona Lisa, it's sizing. It's just a liquid glue. It means any liquid glue you have. Doesn't have to be this. Not a fan of this guy. Looks like a bruise. So I'm going to cover it a little bit with more glass. It's OK to take chances, make mistakes, get messy, and just address it after you realize whether you like it or not. I'm going to add some up here as well in the rock area of some of the geodes. I keep almost saying geoids because of Rhonda's daughter. She says geoids. Now we'll never look at geodes the same. So you can use this technique to either enhance the ones that you like or to cover up ones that you aren't that big a fan of. So it's going to be like a milky color until it starts to set up, then it'll go kind of clear. And that's when you know that it's tacky enough for you to put stuff on it. Special thanks to the mods for reading all the comments every night, but particularly on days like today where I'm not really in the comments. You can even use it for a line. I'm going to make this center a druzy. You can also mix your glitter glass with actual just regular glitter if you so choose. Now I'm just going to add our glitter glass. This stuff is actual glass. It will cut you, so respect the glass. I know I said that it's ready to go when it's clear instead of the milky color, but I'm impatient. And it's going to dry whether something's on it or not. That waiting till it's a milky color is mainly important if you're doing, I think I got it all, mainly important if you're doing like foils or gold leaf, things like that. So I have glitter glass on my website. Oh yeah. I'm just using a little bit of heat from the heat gun to start motivating this adhesive to dry. But it is going to kind of blow your glass around. So just be advised if you do this to keep your heat gun further back so you're not creating too much airflow on your piece or just blow it inward. Can you use Mona Lisa for what? Oh yeah, I'm going to make sure I get a big shipment for sure. So I had every intention on using resin on this piece, but apparently my brain forgot. So what I'll probably do then is just use resin in the ones that don't have the glitter glass. And that'll give those an even more unique look. Yesh, Laura's just started selling glitter glass too. I prefer the clear, but if you guys want, I can start carrying. There's a lot of colors of glitter glass. All right, I'm preparing to dump the glass. So where it's white, it'll end up, oops, where it's white, it'll end up going clear. Will you tap that? Tap. Beep, beep. So where it's got this white and milky color, it will end up going clear. Yes, flatter glass disappears in resin. So where it's white right here, it'll go clear. I love it, I love it. You can use Mona Lisa and resin coasters. Have you found the iridescent wrap for the beach yet? Yeah, it's on Amazon. I have kilos of this glitter coming. Yeah, I'll post a video of how this piece turns out later as well, hung on the wall so you can get a full visual. But yeah. Hope you guys enjoyed this little lesson on AI joids. So hard for me to say it right now. What are you doing, Bobo? What are you doing? What are you doing? What is it? What is it? What is it? Thank you for complimenting on my color theory. Hi, Bobo, don't fall. Don't fall? You're such a good boy. Thank you, guys. Thank you, thank you. Boycat orders from today. More turtles. I thought Moopert would be in here, but he is not. There's a belly beans. There's some belly beans. All right, you guys, thank you so much for watching. Seeing what we're up to today, I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you give it a shot. Why are you all up in my face? Because I like your face. And yeah, there's Girlcat. The one we're missing is Lil Weezy. He's probably taking a nap. All right, y'all, have an awesome night. Be kind to one another. You never know what someone may be going through. You never know what someone may be going through. You just never know what someone may be going through. Who are we? So you don't have to. I'm gonna hear him. Is that your cute big boy? Is that your cute big boy? Moopert, are you so cute? Were you taking a me-me? Were you taking me-me? You were taking a me-me. Do you feel rested? You ready to go? Go outside. You do wanna go outside.  Okay, y'all have an awesome night. Be kind to one another. You never know what someone's going through. I'll see you tomorrow. Bye. What's up, I? It's too much.


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