Okay. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to BC 308, our last studying Revelation and Daniel. We've covered Daniel. We are going through Revelation, chapter by chapter. Let's take a moment, please, to pray together and then we'll get started. Could somebody please pray with us and then we will start. Could somebody pray with the glass please? Thank you, Father. Thank you again for another moment. Thank you for another time to learn. Thank you for all you've been doing thus far. How you, Lord, built us up in your Word through the teachings, Lord, and how much revelation and insight we have gained so far in all the classes. We thank you, Lord, for yet another class. And we pray, Lord, for your son, who is going to instruct us, who is going to guide us, and who is going to explain things.  We pray by the Spirit of God. May we all be refreshed. May we all gain deep insights. May we understand, Lord, the prophecies that you have kept for us, Lord, to be prepared and to be aware of the seasons and times we live in. And be prepared, Lord, for your coming. We pray, Father, that this time we spend will be worthwhile and all the glory will be yours in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you. Thank you, everyone, for being on the class today. So, we are in Revelation chapter 6. We paused towards the second part of chapter 6, just to do a quick refresher. Revelation 1, John has the vision of the Lord at that time. Revelation chapters 2 and 3 are the message of the Lord to seven churches. John records that. Revelation 4 verse 1 onwards. The Lord tells John, I will show you things that are yet to come. So, Revelation 4 verse 1 is looking way, 4 verse 1 onwards, is looking way into the future. Revelation chapter 4 and 5, we saw this throne room, what's happening in the throne room. And we said that this is a scene of the throne room, most likely right after the rapture of the church.  We see angels, thousands upon thousands, standing before the throne, worshipping. And we also see very, something very important that at that moment, what John is seeing out in the future, that's the moment that Jesus, the Lamb of God, portrayed there in chapter 5 as the Lamb of God, the line of the tribe of Judah, the root of the offspring of David, he comes and he takes the scroll from the Father's hand to open the seals on the scroll, indicating that that's the time all the prophecies are going to start being fulfilled. So really, it's a vision that's saying, okay, now these things are going to start happening. Chapter 6 verse 1 onwards is we come back to earth and say, okay, this is what's happening on earth. Chapter 6, we see the first four scenes. It's portrayed by these horses coming on, John is seeing horses. Now we have to understand these as prophetic imagery. It's not literal horses, but it's signifying entrance of something that comes with strength and speed. So the first horse, there's this rider on the horse, white horse, he's got a crown, he's got authority, he's going to make war, he's gaining influence. So we call him the Antichrist because he's not the real Christ. He comes like the Christ. The real Christ also comes riding on a white horse, but here's somebody else coming on a white horse. He's making war, he's gaining influence. And this is the beginning of the tribulation, the seven-year period.  Each one signifying something happening on the earth that is destroying people. There is war, there is famine, there is death, just spreading across the earth. Then the fifth seal, Revelation 6 verse 9, we saw that there were many who were martyred for their faith in Christ. This is right in the beginning of the tribulation. So this is after the ramps of the church and the Antichrist has come on the scene. All these destructions are beginning to happen. Souls are being, people are being killed for the testimony of the Lord. So that's where we stopped. And we're going to pick up in Revelation 6 verse 12 onwards. So I forgot to mention. So there are three sets of seven judgments. First are seven seals, then there are seven trumpets, and then there are seven bowls, each signifying something happening. There are, you know, one or two places where there would be silence and so on. But generally, every seal, every trumpet, every bowl is telling us something, some judgment happening here or not, something happening. So we are looking through the first set of seven judgments, seven seals. We are now in Revelation 6 and verse 12 on the sixth seal. Avni. Master, you just said that in the beginning of in 6.9, at the beginning of tribulation, people will be martyred for their faith. So if the church is raptured, then who are these people who are then martyred for their faith? That's what I'm wondering. So, see, there will be many people who come to faith throughout the tribulation. So you can imagine a lot of people today hearing the Gospel, they laugh at us. They think we are foolish people to believe the Bible and we are sharing the Gospel with them. They laugh at us. They refuse to believe. But when the rapture happens, it is going to shock the whole world. The rapture is not a small thing. Just imagine. And the Lord Jesus comes to take the church away. You're going to have millions of people from just about every city on the earth disappear. What do you know? We can imagine what's going to happen to all the people who have heard the Gospel but they laugh at us. They refuse to believe. At that time, they're probably going to go look for their Bible or they're going to read the things we sent to them, whatever, and they're going to believe. But it's going to be very difficult during the seven years of tribulation. The first three and a half years is difficult. The second three and a half years will be even worse. So we will see as we journey through the Book of Revelation that there are many people who are going to believe and who are going to die for their faith during the tribulation. So Pastor, there's a very curious question here. Those who have believed have been raptured. Bible, when we read the Scriptures, we see that those who have been martyred have a better place or they have more greater rewards. So now when they are being martyred during the tribulation, so their reward will be greater like I'm thinking right now in that way. For those who have lived a long life of faith, going through ups and downs, everything they have persevered through the faith. But now when these people are being martyred, because those who give life for the sake of God, they've been killed for the Lord, I don't know, I'm not able to understand that, but are they going to be in a better position in the sense, in the terms of reward because they are being killed? So that's what I'm wondering. All right, so what do we know about the rewards that we're going to receive in heaven? We know that 1 Corinthians chapter 3 tells us that the work we do.  It's not just being martyred. It's about the work we do, right? 1 Corinthians 3, it says, talks about that. 1 Peter chapter 5 again talks about those who have served, basically Peter writes, he's writing to the elders of the church, and he's saying, you have a reward from the chief shepherd, will appear, you will receive a crown of glory, which will not fade away. So that's another basis, how you've served the church. A third basis we know from Matthew 25 is the faithfulness with which we serve. So we shouldn't assume that just because somebody was martyred, they will have a greater reward because that's not the basis of rewards that we know of. One of them is, yes, the endurance. That's in Revelation 3, he who endures to the end. Jesus says, you've got to endure to the end than you have. So endurance is one part of the criteria or the basis, but there are other things like faithfulness, the works we did, have he done what God wants us to do, and also have he served the church, right? So these are the basis of the rewards. Daniel also says, he who wins souls, are you winning souls? That's also another basis of reward. So there will be people who are dying throughout the tribulation. We will see them. We will see in chapter 7, 144,000 Jews are going to be preaching the gospel. They will also be taken up into heaven. They will also come up during the tribulation. And then in Revelation 20, the people who died during the tribulation will be raised up. So God will have a way in which he's going to give them their rewards. But the basis of the rewards we understand from various passages in Scripture is not exclusively whether you've been martyred. But it's on several other things that the Lord gives us the rewards. Okay, thank you so much, Pastor. Welcome. Say, you have your hand raised. Yes, Pastor. I'm just bringing this up just for benefit of everyone. How do you explain to some Christians who say there's nothing like rapture stated in Scripture? And then they look at these events in the book of Revelation and tell us that these things are going to happen even while Christians are here. So, yeah, so we addressed this. And I'm sorry for referring us back to our second year course. But in our second year course on the end times, we addressed this. First of all, we pointed and it's all in the notes there if you go back to your second year notes on the end times. You'll find that the word rapture is found in the Bible. It's found in 1 Thessalonians 4. And it's the word from the Latin Scriptures. So when somebody says the word rapture is not in the Bible, then we have to tell them it's a Latin word. Of course, it's not in the English Bible, but it is in the Latin Bible. So, you know, some of our English words actually have Latin roots. So in 1 Thessalonians 4 and verse 17, those who are alive and remain shall be caught up together. That word caught up together in Latin and I've given it to you in the second year notes. It's the Latin word raptor from which we get the English word rapture. So you can tell them that, hey, it's in the Bible. It's in the Latin Bible, not in the English Bible. So when we use the English word rapture, we are using a biblical term. It's just that it comes from the Latin Bible based on 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 verse 17. And in the same notes, in our second year notes on the end times, we gave six reasons why we state that there is a pre-tribulation rapture of the church. Six reasons. One significant reason is in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2. And you can review the notes. We've elaborated the six reasons. But one of the main reasons is in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 verse 7 where Paul states. Now, you know, we explained how Paul's epistle to the Thessalonians, 1 Thessalonians and 2 Thessalonians are like a long letter. They come in two parts, but it's actually a long letter. That's a follow-up to the teaching is already given. So if you read 1 Thessalonians and 2 Thessalonians as a long letter in two parts, there is a connecting thought running throughout. And he's referencing what he has already taught them while he was in person. And starting from 1 Thessalonians chapter 1 onwards, he's talking about the coming of the Lord. So it's a theme that runs through it. So he's talked about in chapter 4, he talks about the rapture of the church. In chapter 5 he says 1 Thessalonians chapter 4, rapture of the church, 1 Thessalonians chapter 5. He's talking about the coming of the Lord as a thief in the night. 2 Thessalonians chapter 1 is continuing on. The Lord is coming and he's going to execute vengeance on those who don't obey the gospel. Then he goes into 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 where he begins to say, okay, let me tell you when this is going to happen. And 2 Thessalonians 2 verse 7 he says, the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. And I'm looking at it, 2 Thessalonians 2 verse 7. Just that there's something that's restraining this lawlessness from being manifested. And when he who restrains is taken out of the way verse 8, then the lawless one will be revealed, referring to the son of perdition whom he has mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2 verse 3. So 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 1 through 8 form a primary basis to say Paul is clearly stated. There's only one thing left for the man of perdition to be revealed. And that when that one thing is taken out of the way, then the Antichrist will be revealed. 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 verse 1 to 8. So then we discussed the question. This is in our course on the end times. What is Paul referring to in 2 Thessalonians 2 verse 7? Only two options, either the Holy Spirit or the church. Now, when you study the scriptures, the Holy Spirit is operating on the earth during the tribulation. We will see, when we go to Revelation chapter 7, there are 144,000 Jews who are sealed. The seal in the New Testament is the mark of the Holy Spirit. They are preaching the gospel. So they have to preach and powered by the Holy Spirit. People are being saved during the tribulation. So you can only be saved with the help of the Holy Spirit. There are two witnesses who are doing signs and wonders. Well, you can only do signs and wonders by the power of the Holy Spirit. So there is clear evidence that the Holy Spirit is still at work on the earth during the tribulation. So if you exclude out the Holy Spirit, then the only option you have is the church. So 2 Thessalonians 2 verse 7, we can state that he who restrains whom Paul is referring to is the church. And then we've given fire the reasons why we believe that the church will be taken out of the way for the tribulation just before the tribulation. Is that okay? Okay. Any other questions? So Revelation chapter 6. Alright, let's get go. Let's start off with verse 12, Revelation 6 verse 12, where this is the sixth seal. And in Revelation chapter 6, 12 to 17. Could somebody read that? Okay. Thank you. Have a question. Go ahead, please. Thank you, sir. Just in Revelation chapter 6, verse 9 to 11, it's a seal. Oh, yeah. We see that there's souls of people who were murdered under the throne of God. And it's said that they were murdered for the gospel. And when they came crying to God, they were told that to wait till the number of people be killed in the tribulation that comes with it. And it said on that those who will be killed in that time, they also be raised. Can you please help explain that, sir? Because here we see some already in heaven sitting under the throne. And those will be killed in that time. They will be raised. So how is that possible? Because if they are going to heaven, the souls are already in heaven resting under God's throne. And some will be raised again. Can you please help? Yeah. Good. So this is exactly what's happening right now. So from the time of Christ's resurrection, the gospel is being preached. And every person who has believed in Jesus, who died after Christ. So every believer who died physically after Christ. What happens? Their bodies decay. The bodies, you know, decay here on earth. But the moment they die, exactly what we read here in Revelation 6, 9 to 11 happens to them. That is, their spirits go up into heaven. So we have several New Testament scriptures to tell us that. Philippians 1, Paul says, for me to live is Christ. To live is needful, he tells the Philippians. But it is far better for me to go and be with the Lord. Philippians 1. Second Corinthians 5, Paul says, to be absent from this body is to be present with the Lord. So what happens when a believer dies? The body decays, but the spirit and the soul, the eternal part of the soul is going up into the very presence of God. Right? So right now, and Paul refers to this as the family of God and heaven in Ephesians 3. He says, the Father references the Father and he says, from whom the whole family in heaven and on earth. So part of God's family is on earth. That is you and me who are alive. Part of the family of God is in heaven. These are people who already died and the spirits are there. The spirit and soul, they've gone up to heaven. So when Christ comes, when the rapture happens, 1 Thessalonians 4, Paul describes, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep in Christ. So what's he saying?  God will bring with them. Right? So when Christ comes, the trumpet is descending into the heavens. The spirit and soul is coming and their bodies are raised. That means they receive glorified bodies. And of course the bodies are disintegrated. God is not depending on the physical body. It's all disintegrated, but God at that instant is going to give them glorified bodies. And he says, we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them. So that's the moment their spirit receives a glorified body. The glorified body is just like the body of Jesus. Right? So John says, 1 John 3 verse 1 to 3, he says, when we see him, we will be like him. Right? Philippians 3 says, our bodies will be raised up and we will receive these bodies just like in glorified bodies. So that's what happens at the rapture. Then we have lots of people dying during the tribulation. And we will see, like we see in Revelation 6-9, we will see in Revelation 8, we will see in Revelation 14, that these people show up in heaven. Their spirit and soul show up in heaven. The bodies are here or not decaying, dead. They're showing up in heaven. And then Revelation 20, the battle of Armageddon, when Christ comes after the battle of Armageddon, John writes in Revelation 20, that these people will be raised up. So who are those people? Those have died during the tribulation. They need to be raised up also. They'll be raised up. So every person, every saint of God, till that point will be alive. And they will, we will rule and reign with Christ during the tribulation, during the millennium. That's fulfillment of Daniel chapter 7. Is it okay, Mangi? Oh, is it clear? Any further questions? Yes, I think it is clear. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Okay. So Revelation 6 verse 12 onwards, could somebody read that for us, please? 12 to 17. I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth, made of goat hair. The whole moon turned black red. And stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs dropped from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up. And every mountain and island was removed from its place. And the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hidden caves and among the rocks of the mountains. They called to the mountains and the rocks, fallen us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the lamb. For the great day of their wrath has come. And who can withstand it? Thank you. So the sixth seal is talking about great, both physical and cosmic events taking place. There is earthquake on the great earthquake, so much so that mountains and islands are being shaken. We can imagine the consequences of that. We observe today the impact of certain things that are happening, earthquakes, other weather conditions that are very destructive. But this is in a scale that has never been known before. So there's earthquakes, mountains, islands being shaken, and then there are cosmic events in the heavens above. And Joel prophesied in Joel chapter 2, the sun will be darkened, the moon will become blood red. There will be things happening in the heavens above before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. Joel prophesied in Joel 2. And we see two instances in the book of Revelation, Revelation 6 and again in Revelation 8, when these kinds of events are recorded for us. Cosmic events, sun being darkened, the moon being blood red, and there are stars or meteors or heavenly bodies falling to the earth. Now, today we see that there are meteors passing the earth. There are 144,000 miles away from the earth and they say, okay, that's the closest it's come, etc. I think one passed by last week or earlier this week, if you get it. But it's so many thousands of miles away from the earth and they say, okay, that's the closest it's come and so on and so forth. But John is saying there are going to be things that impact the earth. So stars falling and so on. And it's going to be so, and it's not like something sporadic or one-off, but verse 13 says it's like figs, fig tree dropping figs, meaning it's going to be numerous. So it's going to be catastrophic. And people are going to begin to cry and Jesus mentioned this in Luke 23 when people cry out. He says, you know, just pray that you will not be around at this time. Men are crying out for they want to die because it's so, so difficult during that time and they realize this is the great day of wrath. So one thing we will notice as we read through Revelation years that people recognize what is happening. Revelation 6 verse 16 and 17. People are recognizing this is the day of God's wrath. But it doesn't mean everybody is going to repent and turn to God. We see later on in Revelation 13 that even though, sorry, Revelation 14, I think it is, even though people are realized that Revelation 9, even though people realize that what they are seeing is God's judgment, yet they do not repent. And that's the strange thing. And we'll see this again in Revelation 9 where people realize, you know, what is happening is the great day of God's wrath. This is judgment. This is what the Bible said will happen. And yet they do not repent. And that's the strange part that shows the degree of the hardness of men's hearts at this time, unwilling to repent. Unwilling to turn to God, even though they realize they know what we are seeing, what we're experiencing is actually the judgment of God is actually what God has already spoken about. And we get into Revelation chapter 7. It's a very interesting chapter and I'll just give a few comments and then we'll actually read it. Revelation 7. And again, we don't know why God has decided to do this. But it's very interesting. Revelation 7 tells us that there will be 144,000 Jewish people, servants, who've been sealed and marked by God, specifically for this time in the tribulation. So their work starts in the early part of the tribulation and they're going to be servants of God and they're chosen out of the 12 tribes. Now this doesn't mean that they will all be living in Israel. The Bible doesn't state that. So we need to think about these as Jewish people scattered around the world. There are going to be 144,000 Jewish people who are going to serve God during the tribulation. And in Revelation chapter 7, you can divide this chapter into two parts. The first part is an introduction and an narration about these 144,000 Jewish people who have been marked by God to serve God. And then the second part is about the result of them serving. There will be, there's a record of many people in heaven. And John says, you know, where did all these people come from? And then one of the elders tell them, these are the people. They've come out of this tribulation. That means they were killed during the tribulation. They have their robes dipped in blood. So it shows us a picture of so many people who've been saved, who've been killed during the tribulation and they're appearing in the presence of God. So another, you know, indication that so many people will be saved during the tribulation. They'll be killed, they'll be martyred for their faith and their spirit and soul is coming up in the presence of God. And that's the second half of Revelation 7. Now about these 144,000 Jews, we read about them again in Revelation 14. So we'll have to wait till chapter 14 to see what happens to them. In Revelation 14, which is on the other side of the middle of the tribulation, Revelation 11 marks the middle of the tribulation. On the other side of this, in Revelation 14, we see these 144,000 Jews up in heaven, which means something has happened. And we will discuss it when we get to chapter 14. They are no longer on the earth. Either they've all been killed or they've all been raptured. They've taken up into heaven and we see them up in heaven and they're commended for the way they served God during the tribulation here on earth. So that means they start off in the early part of the tribulation and somewhere after the middle of the tribulation, Revelation 14, they are all up in heaven. We'll discuss it there when we get to chapter 14. What is the probable cause of, you know, how did they actually get to heaven? But as a point, just a side note, and this is not very important, but it's a side note that there are 144,000 Jews, which means there are 12 tribes, which means there should be 12,000 from each tribe. But as we read through chapter 7, we will find that who tribes have been left out? Dan and Ephraim, the two tribes have been, they're not mentioned here. But in their place, there are other two, there is the two tribes, Levi and Manasseh are mentioned. And again, you know, there is no reason stated for it. So, you know, Bible scholars will say, okay, maybe, again, this is just a logical thought that maybe Dan and Ephraim were left out because of their going off into idolatry, and they were replaced by Levi and Manasseh. That's it. You know, there's no reason given. But it doesn't mean God has got rid of these tribes because when we go to Ezekiel, the 48th chapter, which talks about the Millennial Temple, which is after the tribulation, during the 1000 year reign of Christ, there is the Millennial Temple that Ezekiel writes about in chapters 44 to 48. So in there in Ezekiel 48, you see that these tribes of Dan and Ephraim are there. So God hasn't totally disregarded them. They are going to be there as part of the 12 tribes. But for whatever reason, which is not stated, they are not mentioned in Revelation chapter 7. It's just a side note. We don't know the actual reason. We can make a logical guess, but we don't know for sure. Okay. So with that introduction, let's go through Revelation 7. Three verses each, please. Let's read and feel free to ask your questions once we finish reading. We'll start with verse 1. Can read three verses each. After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea. Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God. Verse 4, somebody, thank you. Verse 4. And he reads, Then I heard the number of those who were sealed, 444,000 from all the tribes of Israel. From the tribe of Judah, 12,000 were sealed. From the tribe of Ruben, 12,000. From the tribe of God, 12,000. From the tribe of Asha, 12,000. From the tribe of Natalie, 12,000. From the tribe of Manassee, 12,000. From the tribe of Simon, 12,000. From the tribe of Levi, 12,000. From the tribe of Isaka, 12,000. From the tribe of Zubalon, 12,000. From the tribe of Joseph, 12,000. From the tribe of Benjamin, 12,000. Thank you. Verse 9 onwards, please, somebody. After these things, I looked and behold the great multitude which no one could count. From every nation and all tribes of peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, were in their hands.  And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. And they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God. Thank you. Verse 12, you're coming. Say amen. Say amen. Blessing and glory and wisdom. Thanksgiving and honor and power. And might be to our God forever and ever. Amen. Then one of the elders answered, saying to him, who are being buried in white robes? And where did they come from? Thank you. Verse 14 to 17, somebody, please. And I said to him, sir, you know, so he said to me, these are the one who come out of the great tribulation and washed their rope and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore they are before the throne of God and serve him day and night in his temple. And he who sit on the throne will dwell among them. They shall neither hunger any more nor thirst any more. The sun shall not strike them nor any heed. For the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne was shepherd them and lead them to living fountain of waters. And God will whip away every tear from their eyes. Amen. Thank you. So let's just point out a few things. And Abraham, I see a question in the chat. We will come to that, right? We'll come to that. So Revelation 7, John is saying now he's saying four angels. And they're holding back the four winds of the earth. Now you remember in the book of Daniel, I think it was Daniel 7. Also we read about the four winds. So we mentioned at that time that it represents this phrase, the four winds is typically used to show some movement of God or some work of God, something that God wants done. But at this time he's saying, don't blow. Okay. So in other words, kind of pause, wait because I need to get something else done. So the four winds are being held back. It's a prophetic message, prophetic actor. So don't think literally, you know, don't think that this is physical in the sense, okay, the wind will not blow on the earth. No. It's a prophetic picture and talks about the four winds. We have them used different places in the Bible in the New Testament. But talking about the four winds, it means the four corners of the earth coming in, it's showing movement of God, something God wants done. But Revelation 7.1, he says angels hold them back, meaning there's something that needs to be done. And what needs to be done? He says, we need to seal these 144,000, just put a mark. So he says, verse 2, the seal of the living God. Like, you know, what is the seal of the living God in the New Testament? The seal of the living God is used in two ways. One, it's used to indicate the presence of the Holy Spirit. We see this for the believer in 2 Corinthians, chapter 1, in Ephesians, chapter 3, and also in verse, chapter 4, you know, we, he says, do not grieve the Holy Spirit whereby you are sealed unto the day of redemption. Ephesians 4, verse 30. So the Holy Spirit is the seal, one. Second, the name of God put upon our lives is also a seal in the New Testament. So when he refers to the seal of the living God, it's referring to, as far as the New Testament context, the New Testament context, the seal of God, or seal of the living God is one, the presence of the Holy Spirit, from Ephesians 1, Ephesians 4, 2 Corinthians 1. And it also represents the name of God written upon us. We see this both in Revelation 3, also in the latter part. Revelation 22 says, I'll put my name upon the forehead seal. So that's what it says, right?  So this is one reason that we can say, hey, the Holy Spirit is going to, one of the many reasons we see the New Testament in the book of Revelation, the Holy Spirit is going to be active on the earth during the tribulation, because the seal of the living God is a term that's used to talk about the Holy Spirit. The work of the Holy Spirit in the light of a believer. So 144,000 people, Jews, are given the seal of the living God. So like I said earlier, they could be scattered all over the earth. They're not all necessarily to be localized in Jerusalem or Israel. There are 144,000 Jews. They are descendants of these various tribes. And these angels said, okay, these people have the seal of God. And in this passage, it's not telling us that other than the verse 3, other than using the term, the servants of our God, this passage is not telling us, hey, why are you doing this? What is the point of having these 144,000 Jews having the seal of God? There's no other information. But the phrase verse 3, the servants of our God is significant. It means these 144,000 Jews have been specially marked, anointed by God, to serve Him during the tribulation. That's something to think about. Jewish people going to serve the living God during the tribulation. They're marked with the Holy Spirit. So the same people who rejected Jesus Christ are going to be proclaiming Christ during the tribulation. The impact or the effect of their work is seen right there in verses 9 through 17 because the next thing John is seeing is this great multitude of people standing before the throne of God. It says, I can't even number them. And they are from all nations, tribes, peoples, etc. This is the verse from which we get the name All People's Church. This is kind of what inspired the name. Because he says, I see people of all, I see a great multitude of all peoples. So he said, okay, that's nice, all peoples church. So he's saying, I see all this great multitude. And they're standing with the throne of God. They are worshiping God. There are angels around them and they're worshiping. And then one of the elders asks them, hey, do you know who these people are? Chances. You know. And the elder says, these people, this great multitude of people you're seeing, they've come out of this tribulation. Means they are people who, they're before the throne of God. And you can see from, you can infer from what he said, they will hunger and thirst no more.  So they've come out of this tribulation. That means they were in it, martyred or killed during the tribulation. And their soul, spirit and soul are in the presence of God, worshiping God.  So they were 16, they were hunger and thirst. They're not going through it, they're not going to go through it. So it's parallel to chapter 6, 9 to 11. Here's another instance. And we will see some of these repeated. There's another instance where we can see people who have been killed during the tribulation, standing before the throne of God, worshiping God. They've come out of this great tribulation. So this is one reason we can say that these 144,000 Jews, the servants of God, obviously they're serving God, empowered by the Holy Spirit. And what we are seeing next is a result of their work, which is people who've been saved, who've given their lives to Christ. But during the tribulation, they're going up into heaven. They're coming before the throne of God, worshiping God. There's no more information about these 144,000 Jews until we come to chapter 14. So we wait till then to get a little bit more understanding on what they do or how they live their life on earth during the tribulation. So we wait till then. We will take a break. So let's take a quick break. Then after we come from the break, we will take up these questions. Here I see your question. And say also note that you raised your hands. We'll take up your question as well. Any other questions on chapter 7, we will discuss right after our break. So we'll see you in 10 minutes and we will discuss further. Thank you.


I'm also not feeling Jordan Howard. The matchup against New England definitely sets up to be more of a Tariq Cohen game, and we've watched the Bears utilize Tariq Cohen a bit more over their last two games as he's seen a snap rate jump from below 40% to about 48%. Howard's really just become sort of a touchdown dependent fantasy asset. And that's not a good thing against the Patriots, because New England's only allowed one rushing touchdown this year versus 12 passing touchdowns. Teams are throwing on them to score, not running on them. And with Chicago as home underdogs, there's less of a chance they'll be in a positive script to help Jordan Howard out.


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Nice hey look at this big upgrade Green tinted goggles for my flying tigers. Okay, so I got to get my medium leather and my mouse. I got that Good luck with that leather. Hey, what if I told you I leveled my skinning?  Okay, green tinted goggles are gonna get on helm upgrade Nice green tinted goggles equip. Thank you. Yeah Easy look at that.  Okay, hold on We got to do a we got some engineering work to do here. Wait, this is gonna be fun, dude You know, it's fun about this You don't normally use a lot of the engineering stuff while you're leveling But we actually are gonna get it to use it Yeah, like training dummies all this stuff like explosive sheep whole chat is arguing about what is and isn't metal chat The only thing that's metal is playing a hardcore classic Wow and jumping into the lava and iron forage The second you hit level 60. Okay, that's the only thing that's metal. Stop arguing about what's not metal and what is metal Oh god, this is so lucky. I love one of you. I love when you arrive and the tram is like already here Getting me man Like really Dude it literally one boat moved and then There's a tiny gap. Are you kidding me?   No, can I please myself?  Wait this guy got the name Rhett Pally. How did you get the name Rhett Pally? That was not my real voice. That's not my boy I don't sound like that. I don't sound like that whenever I get not excited. I don't even know around not aroused like What's the word? It's not excited stimulated. No It's not stimulated exact ecstatic exasperated surprised. Yeah, surprise surprised It's not a wreck. Okay. Oh, they don't respond before I pull ready. Okay. I got him alone. I killed all his ads I kited him out. I'm back here Okay, this is it Mormon fell level 32 elite. I'm supposed to use Morban's bane No bubble But I don't have time. I don't have time. I don't have time shadow resort is a good idea Okay, I'm gonna go for it use the wand. What do you mean use the wand? I already used it I'm just gonna use this now. Not a sight P. P. God.  Not a sight Brick bomb from Nice, let's go Let's go. No need to bubble or anything. No lay on hands. No bubble easy Easy Line of sight the cast nice Morban fellas defeated Spark metal quaff It's unfortunate. I just I just made these but hey Can't say no to nine strength. Oh God. I hope we don't die, dude. Wait, what? Seedank you are not our tango the no armor challenge Are you kidding me?  No, I won't yes Our healer isn't even here. Where is this guy twilight shore dude? I swear take your armor off No, I'm I'm I'm keep my clothes on I will say I have no problem with this Conan relax We have to get naked with the achievement Frick see dang you already ran this on your warrior. We'll bring the 27 warrior. It's a four candle stream Yes, it has to be with the practice ready for four candles. Okay. Who do we let die? Who do we let die if it happens? Don't hold I think our lowest level is the hunter So if anybody dies, it should be the hunter because that's the most morally Acceptable person to die because the least amount of time has been wasted the young should die as well.  There's some reef acts Okay Don't have to get something here. Oh tin vein. Yeah, I know the glove There's big gloves to drop off this boss, but no no luck. Okay shrine of Gela haste Like increase frost damage done look all the best players what they do before MC They like the best frost mages go to BFD and they get this blessing of black fathom so that they can do a lot of damage plus 15 frost build damage You want the hundred parts? That's how you do mage unplayable without that buff absolutely 100% true Okay Lantern has flash bundles my best bombs are a large copper bomb. I mean I have big bronze bombs Okay, well apparently these water elementals do something that's like half your health and damage Do we have any spell interrupts? Can we pummel yet or don't you do you get pummel like level 34 or something? Don't you shield bash? Okay, you can shield bash. Okay, so Conan and Vanna Ray you guys need to be ready to like swap the shield and shield bash Yeah, if you like trying this with this group is not a good idea I'm mind-controlled. I'm oh my gosh, dude.  None of us can use this I mean a warrior can use it as like two-handed weapon. I guess do we try to do four candles I think there's an almost 100% chance that we die Like we don't have any aoe like we have to like grenade and You know, I I don't think a light of a loon. I don't think a light of a loon works with retail Okay, here's what I do four candles if It starts going bad. I will run away And horror can we where can we kite these guys out to dude? I really want to go for it, but I did not think of this before. I just I just invited everybody On maybe we shouldn't do this. I'm scared I'm scared. We don't have any aoe dude. We don't have any aoe are you guys clutch like do you guys have like the clutch gene? Okay, okay My thunder clap is 20 damage. Okay Conan says yes. Well, obviously that's Conan the Barbarian They made a movie out of that guy. I'm gonna draw the line in the sand right here if you want to do this then stand on This side of the line right here. Okay, if you are Worried that we are not gonna be able To do it you stand on this side and that's okay.   We literally don't have the group guys. Yeah, I'm doing it It's lit okay, okay relax, okay Don't get the elites. You're doing good You're doing good. You're doing good. You're doing good. You're doing good. Did you bait? It's okay. Follow your training Why am I unarmed? Okay? I don't know. I got unarmed I was like wait a second. I look like I'm like, why am I not hitting? Oh Here we go. Here's the big boys. You're sorry. No, no, no, okay All right ready.  We're gonna bop the training dummy, but that was easy Why why okay something is wrong with one of my macros it keeps taking off my weapon.  Yeah, we totally could have done that Why were why why were they so why were they doing no damage? Why were they so like they made it look way harder than it was? Oh Oh, you know what happened to my macro. My macro got screwed up because I disconnected Here we go.  I wish we had done the four candle man But if you watch the video Like watching their videos like oh, there's no way cuz like they had like the perfect group comp and everything But maybe they were just making it harder than it was one game of league chat one game Wait, am I gonna make it in time? Am I Frick I'm gonna make a play here chat. I'm gonna make a play here. I'm gonna make a play here ready. Oh Frick move out of my way League what was the plan? I was gonna jump from one boat to the other like an action movie You can hold on and you can have it carry you to the next zone.


Hey, good morning from Jackson farm another great day on the farm Got her hay bells burning out here Trying to raise the temperature a degree or two It got cold got cold faster than we anticipated Said the low this morning 34. I was gonna get up about four o'clock Donna came in and said huh it's 32 Outside and I went out and sure enough there was frost on the Wind is on the truck and So I hustled out and turned the water on the peach trees and Started throwing hay bells out like a madman out here and I think we're okay. There's a little energy in the trees themselves Can feel that the Leaves don't have frost on them. Hopefully those buds Are gonna be okay, and we'll raise the temp up a little bit before that morning flash gets here and Got this hay from Jerry Gillum He is a hay farmer over in Pairgold got a big operation and he goes out and bails wheat straw and some got left out and got it wet and So we're able to buy it. Hopefully cheap enough to Leave a little bit for a crop And it's kind of how farming goes kind of how life goes something tragedy tragic happens to somebody else and It's still benefits the rest of us Think about that this morning but I'm appreciative to Jerry for giving us a good deal on this and Thinking about all the big farmers out there up in the boot hill of Missouri Got all these peach trees going Y'all pray for them They're doing what they can do some of them get helicopters and fly around in the orchards. They got giant Props moving the air around People out making fires just like this Doing what they can to salvage crop and pretty humbling to Call yourself a farmer You just got to Go with how things work and it makes us all appreciate what people do to Get food for us on the table. So when you get up and eat today and have a meal and Have an apple that was grown probably out in Washington or somewhere like that and kept in cold stores I'll win or think about some farmers out there and how much work they've done and How much effort they put into it mine is really really small and Actually, it's really nice out here this morning. It's like having 50 campfires But anyway Like I said pray for our farmers and all the effort that they make God bless America


Garry team news wise, how are you looking? How did everyone come through Tuesday? No, very good. No injuries to report from that. We lost Matthew Palmer with illness. So he's, we'll be touching go, we'll see how he is tomorrow. But apart from him, everybody that played and still came through fine. Clayton's had another good week and so he's going the right way. What else is there that's nothing that's about it that's coming back? Joe Riley's progressing well as he works hard every day. Tyler French has gotten a bit of a problem with his shin at the moment. Holding him back which is disappointing for him. Richard O'Donnell's going well and that's everybody I think. For Clayton being involved this week and I saw him doing some shooting practice when I was driving in. Yeah, he's getting there. I think this weekend probably be a bit too early for him. But we'll see how he recovers like you say. Today they've had the ones that haven't played and including the ones coming back from injury. We've had a tough session today so we'll see how he recovers from that. How much do you think you've missed him? Oh yeah, without a doubt you've missed him. We've missed him in the dressing room. We've missed him being around the place in the lead up to games. And then we've missed him on the training pitch. We've missed him in games as well because of what he brings to the team in terms of his oil round play and his experience. So now 100% we've missed him. How much does Tuesday night take out of a group when you get back in the very early hours? I know there'll be fans listening who got back in the very early hours and it has a knock on effect doesn't it for a few days for you? It does and I'm sure the wonderful support that we had down there when they got back at the hours that they must have got back at it as well. They appreciate and understand that today for those lads has been all about rest and recovery that play. And you know they get on with it. They're an honest bunch like I've said. So they're just doing everything they can now to make sure that they're ready to go again on Saturday night. I wanted to ask you about something you mentioned after the game in your interview with us when you were asked about the players in midfield and you were urging them forward, so then look forwards, go forwards with it. How do you get that into them and why do you think they are hesitant at that at times? I didn't think we were hesitant. Having watched the game back as well probably initially your thoughts but no I think some of it's getting used to playing with certain players again and understanding the relationships but no I thought looking back at the game and watching it again which is always a better way to then draw your conclusions after it looked, we did well. We played some nice stuff at times and you know we just, it was just a final pass, first half especially where Dylan Connolly's got in several times and then obviously the wonderful effort from Chris Taylor and then the brilliant opportunity when Harry Pritchard gives up the opportunity this year but no I think on reflection you know the performance like I said at the time it was a very good tactical game and the standard of play from both teams and how they went about it was in my opinion it was a very high level. And it's about taking that responsibility on isn't it I suppose with someone like Harry Pritchard in that situation about taking that one. I think Harry would have shot if he had been playing in the game and he was in the flow of it having just come on you know I think it was one of them where he probably didn't want to be seen to be missing but we spoke with him and I spoke with all of them and just to say you know you've got to do what Tails did and just let Rip and you know you never know where it can end up and unfortunately for Chris it hits the bar and comes out where you know another time it rattles the underside of the bar and goes in. Luke McGee, what have you made to him and his two performances so far? He's been well if I speak about him as a person he's been fantastic from the very first time that I spoke to him to coming into the building to how he's been around the place. He's been you know he's a real popular member of the group already which is a credit to him. He's not shy, he comes at you know which most goalkeepers aren't you know they've got to be vocal and he gave a very good rendition of the song that he chose to do in the hotel before the game against Colchester and the lad can sing. What song was it do you know? I knew you would ask me that but it's too young for me whatever song it was it was too young for me but he's got some lones. He can sing yeah X Factor Contender. Really? Yeah I thought so yeah X Factor Contender so you know watch this space when he retires might be the next Teddy sharing him. Maybe that's what he's been doing with all the downtime he'd had because he admitted he's struggled when he's not been necessarily playing week in week out gaming game out and it's hard for a goalkeeper because you know there's only one slot you can fit into so how much praise is he's there for the way he's jumped straight back into first team action. Definitely and you know he does he deserves an enormous amount of credit and he looks comfortable with the ball at his feet. He played out a couple of tight situations ever so well it brings a bit of calmness about that when the way he does it. You know in the game on Tuesday he wasn't really tested with shot after shot I think he may have won good save but no he's settled in ever so good and like you say the fact that he's not had that much football he's only going to get better every time he plays. Transfer window just over a week to go? Yes. You busy on the phone what's happening? The phone was mental yesterday with people ringing up and throwing players at you and what have you and it's hilarious isn't it where they go alright well it opens in January and you see deals getting done and now really gearing up for the madden rush but now there's nothing to report that's anywhere near concrete for ever an incoming or an outgoing at this moment. Any of those phone calls peak your interest though? Were there a few that were thrown your way that you thought well maybe if X, Y and Z happens?  But you've got the scope if you need to? Well they have to be a conversation and go obviously you know you have to go with all the facts and all the facts would be you know how much it's going to cost when is it from till but you know I'm led to believe that there is a little bit of scope to do something but again it has to add up that's for sure. And what about Owen Doyle any update on his situation still expecting him to be here or have Swindham been back in touch?  He had this chance that got deflected and went wide and then he was narrowly offside and he's been narrowly offside for the last two now but I thought him and Shane McCartney way that they linked up well the other night and we want that relationship to continue. Sounds as though Jerry Yates might be going back to Rotherham as well if it hasn't already happened from Swindham so would that maybe increase the chances of them coming back for him than would you feel? I don't know. It would increase their need for a striker wouldn't it? Yes correct. Which could then possibly increase their need to come back for a striker they know all about? Yes correct possibly but I'm not Richie Wellins so I can't see that for you. Does that concern you though that it could happen late in the window or could happen deadline days or something like that? No that's what I'm saying about the window. I'm sat here now saying nothing for us, nothing not a sniff on any of us as such and the last hour of the window it could change and you could lose one and there'd be something that sometimes there's not a great deal you can do. If a decision is made above you financially it's correct for the club. What about the next one then? What about Mansfield? They struggle at home don't they at the moment? I watched them against Plymouth on the bus back from Colchester and they had four clear opportunities to take the lead before Plymouth scored and played well. They played a different system, they played a different style to how they played it here which I fully expected because obviously when Graham went in there at the beginning it was just at the start of that Christmas period where you wouldn't have had much time on the training pitch. They probably had a couple of sessions where you could implement how they wanted to play and like I said before we played them in December. They've got players that can hurt you and they've got a good squad and they've found themselves in a situation that probably on paper doesn't want their position with what they've got. They're a dangerous opponent, one we're aware of but we go there with one defeat in our last 11 buoyed by the performance of Tuesday night. Being solid again and difficult to break down and we've won war from our lads in the final third to push on now and take that performance and that result onto a victory. Good stuff, thank you. You mentioned Clayton, Jamie Devitt. How difficult is it trying to get their match fit at the moment? Fair play to the pair of them. Maybe we are both very good in terms of the way that they look after themselves in terms of how they've gone about the recovery and the work rate that they've done. It's game time that they need for that little bit of sharpness. We can do it all in training but it's the real stuff that they need. That's the hard bit but that's the situation we find ourselves in at this moment in time. Obviously we play Saturday and then we play Tuesday again and then the window shuts and then we play Saturday and after that it might just calm down a little bit and then we can see where we're at with all. Luke McGee was just saying to us that what he really needs is games because you can't replicate for a goalkeeper in training what it's like in a match. How long are you expecting that to take for him to be fully up to speed? It's different for every individual but we've already seen the benefit of him playing two games already and such a quick turnaround. He gets a third game this Saturday and then we'll see where we go from there because he's got the Chelten game and his level of performance has been good since he's been in. So long may be that will continue. Go back to the window again now Ian. That sort of talking about swimming all the time. Obviously they're in a position where they've just lost two quite major players. That's always the risk isn't it when you've got run players and when you're in the situation that things can happen like that? Yeah it is. It's interesting isn't it because I think Carl Isle last season were doing really well. I think it was a couple of lads, Nadasan and Sourbee there and they had the recall and then they just dropped off a little bit and just missed down. So it is difficult and when you take the loan players it's always something where especially when they do really well. So when I was at Blackpool and Sean Longstaff and he was smacking them in there and everywhere and you heard another league one club or a championship club was going to come in for him and you just sit there and wait for the release closed date or the recall date to elapse and then you can breathe a little bit and then one minute past 11 on January 31st you can actually try and get some sleep without worrying about losing anybody. But you know the rules when you go into the agreement so it's something that you have to accept and it works both ways in your favour. Because it can change the whole dynamic quite quickly can't it? Yeah definitely. And like you said I've seen the advantage of it where you bring a couple of new faces in all of a sudden just at the deaf and it just gets the group going again and it has its advantages but I wish they'd do a week rather than a month so it just doesn't make sense in my head to just drag it all out to then have that mad week and even in that mad week it goes for a mad two days. Is it not better than this situation that you feel it's more comfortable in this window than perhaps some managers might be chasing players desperately and but when you look at the squad you've got the players coming back is it a position of a use in this window and a position of relative strength? Listen if the window closed now and we had to go with what we've got with I don't have a problem with that at all and just said that to the group you know and throughout the course of the season and leading up to the window opening that's down to them you know. If they're flying and people make them available I think well he's not going to get in ahead of him then that's not a problem at all for me. The only sometimes I think you look at it and say the odd new face here and there just like to say just brightens the place up a little bit or just brings a bit of curiosity and then a bit of a different challenge for one or two which you know is sometimes really good as well. Presumably also the players themselves in terms of attitude they comfortable in the window because sometimes you've said before it can be a little bit. I think if you wanted to know more about what's happening in the window you go and speak to the players because they know everything that's happening in the window and through agents, through all the players at other clubs. Is that easy to manage when you're doing that? It's entertaining that's a short because what you would definitely hear is that you'll hear one player say all of it such and such is getting so much money at such and such and you think right well you're not getting anywhere near that so you can pipe down. But it is that's what it creates but you just then have to obviously manage it and use it to motivate them if that's their motivation, if it's financial. You've now got six loans in of course. Yes. I mean I know the situation you said you didn't want to. No. I suppose it's a necessity. It was and like I say it's something that's going to need to be managed. I didn't like the idea at all being honest through what happened last year to young power. But it is something that I'll have to manage as and when that's required. Is it because you've always sit the low players down and saying that this is going to be the scenario? Me personally that's what I will do. I will be honest with them. I don't think you can do it any other way.


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