What is up you guys, welcome back to another one. If you're new to the channel, I am Gold Pony, I do new car truck SUV reviews on YouTube. And today we are in the new 2021 Subaru Forester courtesy of Apple Subaru in York PA. For more information on their inventory, please feel free to check out the link in the description box below. And so as I am sitting at this red light, wanted to check this Subaru Forester out today because several changes actually for the 2021 model year. Of course, excellent resale value really with any Subaru in general for that matter. Great reliability. You can check out a Consumer Reports magazine to see that specifically. The Forester has amazing reliability. And of course with Subaru's, you have the very best all wheel drive system in existence and that has been proven. So having said all of that, what do you guys say? Let's just go ahead and jump right into it. And as always, let's start with pricing. So as you can imagine, there are actually several different trim levels for the 2021 Forester. First one being the base setup starting at $24,795, premium for $27,795, sport for $29,395, limited for $31,395, and lastly the touring starting at $34,895. But I will say regardless of trim level that you go with, power plant on the Forester is going to be the same. Powering this beast is going to be a 2.5 liter direct injected, horizontally opposed Subaru boxer engine, putting out 182 horsepower at 5,800 RPM, 176 pound feet of torque available, 4,400 RPM, power sent to all four wheels of course, through a linear Tronic CVT. With paddle shifters actually, if you go with the sport trim level and up, that's how you're going to get them. And we will be testing those out in a little bit here, but do what I also mentioned with that sport trim level and up though, you also will get a seven speed manual mode for the CVT if you were to go with those specific trim levels. So that's kind of interesting. So we'll give that a shot of course as well. So like I said, we will be giving that a shot. I'll let you know how that manual mode actually feels, but zero to 60 time comes in at approximately 8.5 seconds with MPG numbers coming into 26 in the city, 33 on the highway taking regular unleaded fuel. But so before we test out anything in the Forester, I did want to mention there are actually some driving modes that do come standard on this one as well. They will include sport and intelligent. Those two buttons are going to be located on the right side of the steering wheel, steering wheel mounted controls there. Essentially what they will do is adjust things like the shift points and the throttle response as well. So let's go ahead and push sport. And it did immediately downshift for me. So it is going to hold the RPMs in a much higher level, giving you more power on demand. So that's going to be useful for merging onto the highway, things like that.  But having now said all of that, like I was mentioning, there is a seven speed manual mode here. So what we are going to do is push the shifter all the way to the back and to the left. That is going to give me that manual mode right now. It is telling me I am in that seventh gear. So it is going to display the gears within the digital portion of the gauge is right in front of you there. So I'm excited all that. Let's just go ahead and find a straightaway here and let's test out the paddle shifters. Keep in mind this is a CVT or continuously variable transmission. So there's not really gears to shift through, but we are going to see how well it actually simulates that shifting in the end. So let's go ahead and give it a shot. There we go. Didn't shift. Nice. Huh. That's kind of good. It really simulates a regular automatic transmission quite well. Like it was winding out the RPMs and it did not shift for me. So it really is a true manual mode. That's pretty cool. I like the Subaru did that given the driver a little more control. So I like it. Anyways, let's go ahead and do a quick little acceleration test here. I think I found my spot in three, two, one. Yeah. That CVT. It's not bad. It's definitely not the quickest thing in the world. If you want quick, go with the Subaru WRX or something like that, but it's all right. It's just all right. We'll say that. I wouldn't have minded if the Subaru Forester came with maybe a turbocharged engine perhaps, maybe with a nice little hood scoop feeding air into the top mount intercooler, something like that would be pretty freaking sweet on a Forester. But nonetheless, because you have this engine you are going to get better fuel economy and of course better reliability and a turbocharged engine as well. But not the quickest thing in the world. But anyways, to go along with that acceleration test as always, braking is equally important.  And actually for the sport trim level and up that gets bumped up a little bit to 12.4 inch ventilated front discs to almost a full inch larger in the front. When you go with that sport trim level and up at least in the back, still 11.2 inch solid rear discs for those trims. But all in all, when it comes to the 60-zero stopping distance that's going to come in at 129 feet for the Forester. But that's with the regular brake setup. If you were to go with that up-sized brake setup it actually then comes in at 118 feet which is very respectable for that one. Tiguan comes in at 131, Honda HRV comes in at 116. So it's kind of right in the middle of the pack unless you go with that larger brake setup with the sport trim level and up and then you really get some very good braking. And I will attest to that absolutely no issues with the braking feel in my short test drive today whatsoever. So I'm definitely a fan there. Touching on suspension and handling up front you're going to get an independent strut type front suspension with the stabilizer bar in the back double wishbone type rear suspension once again with the stabilizer bar but perhaps what impressed me the most right off the bat I could instantly tell with the Forester is the steering feel. It's wonderful. It's absolutely wonderful. It's definitely on the weightier side of things. So therefore it instantly points you in the direction that you want to go. Typically with SUVs you're going to find a lot of loosey-goosey steering feels which definitely isn't my favorite. So with the Forester it almost feels more along the lines of a sports car. So the steering feel is absolutely wonderful on the Forester. I will say that when it comes to ride quality it's pretty much as expected. I mean we got a lot of road imperfections in PA so I've been hitting a lot of them but it's as expected certainly not the smoothest ride but it's not the worst either. So it's pretty much on par for the course I guess you could say. Then touching on cabin noise that's perfectly fine as well. You can get a little bit of engine noise when you really hit the gas but other than that the Forester is actually pretty well insulated. I will say that I was at highway speeds for quite a bit and not a whole lot of exterior wind noise coming into the cabin. Again it's just that engine noise when you really hit the gas. That's not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion. I actually enjoy that. But touching on visibility this is really where the Forester really shines. Absolutely amazing visibility. Of course that's due to its shaping a little more boxier in nature but you can see wonderfully out the back. So when it comes to visibility the Forester is certainly on point. But that about rounds out the performance segment of this review guys. Let's now go ahead and take a look at the exterior of this brand new 2021 Subaru Forester. All right so here she is you guys the new 2021 Subaru Forester. This is the limited trim by the way finished in crystal black silica for anybody who is curious but let's go ahead and start up front now of the Forester. I wanted to mention ground clearance because Subaru tends to do this pretty well. 8.7 inches of ground clearance up front there. That's definitely more than most other competitors in its class. Typically it's coming around. Typically that comes in at around eight inches but Subaru Forester puts it around 8.7. So that's definitely pretty nice. LED steering response of headlights is now newly standard for the 2021 Forester. It's one of the new things this year. Essentially what that means is when you're going around to bend at night those headlights will swivel based on your steering angle. Better help illuminating what is around that bend so you're less likely to hit a deer or really anything else. LED fog lights coming with the premium trim level end up. LED daytime running lights coming with all trims of course. Red trim detail can be found on the sport trim level only and that's going to be found near the front lip, the side skirts and the rear bumper. Little sportier appearance I guess you could say. Also with that sport trim level you're going to get gloss black front grille surrounds as opposed to the chrome that you are currently looking at right now on the limited and of course that's going to come with the touring as well that chrome grille surrounds and the extra detail around the fog lights down below there. But anyways that pretty much wraps up the front timeless look to the Forester here. Let's go ahead and make our way now to this side of the Forester. And so let me go ahead and start up top. Raised roof rails coming standard with the premium trim level and up. Also rear privacy glass for the premium trim level and up meaning the base trim level does not actually get the rear privacy glass. It's something that people typically ask on my reviews of the Forester in previous years. So I wanted to mention that taking a look at the side mirrors power adjustable black side mirrors coming with the base trim body colored side mirrors coming with the premium sport and limited you will find a satin chrome finish to those side mirrors then if you were to go with the touring. So that's going to differ amongst the trim levels there and you're also actually going to get integrated turd signals if you go with the sport trim level and up as well. Then take a look down at the bottom when it comes to the side skirts they are going to differ amongst the trim levels as well. You're going to find some red trim if you were to go with the sport there's going to be some satin chrome trim with the touring. Otherwise you're going to find that matte black trim at the bottom which is currently what you're looking at right now of course. Then take a look at the wheel set up 17 inch steel wheels with covers coming with the base trim 17 by seven inch aluminum alloys with the premium and 18 by seven inch alloys if you were to go with the sport limited or touring like you were looking at right now but now let's go ahead and make our way to the back of this one. And so now since we are round back you will find a shark fin antenna up top there just below that rear spoiler with an integrated brake light for all trims just below that rear window wiper C shaped LED taillights coming standard across the board gotta love that a little better illumination at night there. And then just below it all you are going to find a single exhaust outlet finished with a chrome tip definitely looks good back there actually. So I do believe you guys know what we have to do next as always here is that exhaust clip. And so now since we are around back of the forester when it comes to opening that rear lift gate it is going to be a power lift gate only if you go with the limited touring or it's going to be optional in the premium and the sport but you will get a manual lift gate that is going to be the standard set up again unless you go with the limited or the touring there. Once opened up cargo capacity comes in at 28.9 cubic feet. If that was not enough space of course the rear seats do fold down there is a 60 40 split bumping that up to 70.9 cubic feet and it was relatively easy to fold those rear seats down there's actually a little knob found on the corners on the top portion of those rear seats. You just lift up on that and then push the seats down it's pretty easy there. But also found in that cargo area actually I wanted to mention grocery bag hooks there's also cargo tie down acres back there. You will also get in floor storage on every single trim level that doesn't always come standard on SUV so I didn't want to mention that. Removable cargo area tray coming with the sport trim level and up and you will also find a cargo area rear gate light for the sport trim level and up as well back there. Overall, pretty much everything you could possibly want in a cargo area of a vehicle. So anyways, making our way now to the rear leg room that comes in at 39.4 inches. So for reference, I mean even six feet tall this is how much space I had back there. Did want to also mention those rear seats if you go with the premium trim level and up at least they are reclining. Meaning if you wanted to lay back a little bit they do recline backwards or you can move them up a little bit as well if you wanted to. Heated rear seats actually come with the touring trim level. Wouldn't imagine that if you wanted to spoil your rear passengers a little bit. Fold down rear armrests with cup holders coming with the premium trim level and up. We'll actually get dual rear USB charging ports for the sport trim level and up. And I did want to also mention you will get front seat back map pockets. There's kind of two different sections to them as well. You almost never see that. So it's a cool little design feature like the Subaru added that. But now let's go ahead now and make our way to the front seats. They are manually adjustable claw seats with the base trim level, power adjustable front seats for the premium trim level and up. We'll find heated front seats again for the premium trim level and up. And that button is located just behind the shifter by the way. Sport cloth with orange stitching for the sport trim level. Leather seating then is going to come with the limited and touring and it is a perforated leather by the way as well. I wanted to mention that. Overall very comfortable seat. Definitely didn't have any issues in my short test drive today. So I do like the seats in the forester here. Then take a look at the steering wheel. It is tilt and telescoping. It is leather wrapped for the premium trim level and up. And it will be heated if you were to go with the touring. And by the way that heated feature is an option on the limited trim level that we have today. It's actually located on the right side of the steering wheel but we do have that option. So it is pretty cool that it's heated especially on cold days in Pennsylvania unlike today but it's going to get cold. I know it is but anyways. Let's now go ahead and make our way to the startup. Let me first start by showing you guys the key here. You do essentially have all of your buttons on one side of the key lock, unlock and the button to pop the rear hatch. And by the way, the unlock button is going to be the Subaru logo located in the middle of the key there in case anybody was curious. But it is all going to be a push button start if you were to go with the premium trim level and up. So we do have that today. So all I'm going to do here simply put my phone in the break and press that inches start button located just by the driver's right knee. And so but then upon startup those gauges will do a full sweep. Tachometer is on your left. Speedometer is on your right. And there is a small digital display front and center. Giving you basic information like how many miles you have left until you hit empty or average miles per gallon at any given time with driving mode you're in. And like I was saying earlier what gear you were in if you were to choose to put it in that manual mode here on the Forester. But essentially it is a pretty basic gauge setup. I think it would probably would have been cool to add a full digital gauge cluster and maybe the upper trim levels of the Forester but it gets the job done either way. But taking a look at overall interior quality panoramic power moonroof coming with the premium trim level and up. This I love you almost never find a panoramic power moonroof on that many trim levels of a vehicle. So the fact that Subaru puts it on the premium trim level end up of course that's pretty darn cold because you usually don't find that. So I wanted to mention that overhead LED map lights coming standard on all trim levels that's pretty nice as opposed to the halogens. We'll also have an overhead sunglass holder up here as well. Dual zone climate control is going to come with the limited and touring trim levels only. Homeland controls is going to be optional on all trim levels. It doesn't come standard on any particular trim level though. Just in front of the shifter you're going to have an auxiliary port, two USB charging ports and a 12 volt power outlet. There's a little bit of storage just behind that as well. Behind the shifter you're going to have an electromechanical parking brake and in the middle of it all is going to be that X mode dial. And so essentially what X mode is on the Forester it uses enhanced control of the VDC system along with increasing all wheel drive system engagement to give you better traction and bad weather. For example, when it snows here in Pennsylvania that is definitely a mode you're going to want to utilize but there's specific modes within X mode actually. There's the normal mode which is what you leave it in for regular driving. That's when you just press down on the dial there. But if you turn it to the left you're going to have snow and dirt. If you turn it to the right you're going to have deep snow and mud. So do want to mention that X mode is going to be there for you on the Forester as well and it's going to be a very useful feature when it starts to snow. And of course you got the best all wheel drive system anyways in the Forester. So essentially everything is going to be perfectly fine when you hit those conditions. But just behind that dial you're going to have two cup holders just behind that a little bit of storage. And within the center armrest of course even more storage along with the 12 volt power outlet in there as well. Overall when it comes to interior quality of the Forester it's pretty much as expected. I actually kind of like it. There's some rubberized finishes on the doors as well as just above the passenger side glove box. That's pretty cool. Little bit of plastic finish above the glove box as well. But I will say I do like the design of that. And again overall it's pretty much finished as you would expect the Forester to be finished so. No issues there for me but now let's make our way to the tech display. There's actually two tech screens I wanted to mention. And let me start with the top one. To control what is on that upper tech screen there's actually an info button on the left side of the steering wheel. And it's one of those things where you're probably not going to know how to control what is on that screen unless somebody tells you so. It is labeled info and so when you press that you can view things like your outside temperature what day of the week it is the date as well. Also your safety information is going to be up there. There's some off-road status, oil temperature, weather information. There's a compass up there, radio information. The list goes on but really a good bit of information can be found on the upper tech screen of the Forester but just below that is really where everything else is found. And that's going to be a 6.5-inch color touchscreen display for the base, premium and sport. Otherwise if you go with the limited or touring that's bumped up to an eight-inch color touchscreen display which is currently what you guys are looking at right now. Bluetooth and audio streaming come standard either way, Android Auto, Apple CarPlay for every single trim level by the way. Even the base Forester you still get Android Auto with Apple CarPlay and that means if you have a smartphone simply hook it up to the Forester and therefore you have free navigation displayed up on that tech screen as well as the ability to like and dislike your Pandora songs. There's a couple other compatible apps as well. Factory navigation system is going to come with the touring trim level only. Really you only need that if you perhaps go under a lot of tunnels or if you live in the mountains or something like that. Of course you can check out your radio information up on that screen as well. And by the way when it comes to the sound systems of the Forester it will differ substantially amongst the trim levels. Four speakers coming with the base. Six speakers coming with the premium sport and limited and you will find a nine speaker Harman Kardon sound system. If you were to go with the touring that sound system is optional on the limited that we have today. And we do have that by the way that's why I mentioned it. So by the way that sound system because it was 576 watts. So what do you guys say? Let's go ahead and turn on the radio so we got playing today and let's test out the clarity of this one. Definitely a ton of bass with a Harman Kardon sound system. I will say that. And conveniently it was very easy to adjust the amount of bass, the mid range speakers and all that. There's actually a sound button located just below the radio settings there. It was very easy to find. So I was able to actually turn up that bass a little bit and make it even better. So love that it was that simple to adjust that as well. But sound system is great if you were to go with the Harman Kardon. I will say that. So definitely pretty nice. But the last thing I wanted to mention to you guys on that tech display is when you do put the Forster in reverse of course you will find a rear view camera coming standard for all trim levels across the board letting you know who or what is behind you which is always is going to lead us into safety. And so first starting with safety I wanted to mention the Forster is an IIHS top safety pick plus which is by the way the very highest designation given by IIHS. So that's always pretty much the best start you could possibly get. Front side, side curtain airbags do come standard driver's knee airbag as well. In the back you're gonna have latch AKA lower anchors and tethers to children for the rear car seats. Rear child door locks back there tire pressure monitoring system. Also those Subaru iSight coming standard on every single trim level of the Forster. This is going to include a pre-collision braking system pre-collision throttle management lane departure and sway warning and adaptive cruise control with lane centering as well. And by the way that adaptive cruise control system you can adjust that using the steering wheel mounted controls found on the right side of the steering wheel there. But the list actually continues from that. Sports room level and up is going to add to that automatic high beams as well as a blind spot monitoring system with rear cross traffic alert. And that's gonna be the little Subaru logo in the side mirrors letting you know if somebody is in your blind spot of course. Touring to level and up then is also going to add reverse automatic braking which is going to be optional on the limited by the way. So I did want to mention that as well but ultimately when it comes to my final thoughts here of the 2021 Forster excellent when it comes to safety and Subaru always takes a lot of pride in their safety readings and really overall safety in all of their vehicles. I've seen interviews with their Subaru executives really taking pride in that. So that's pretty cool. Love the addition of the adaptive LED headlights across the board that's super nice especially at night. Best all wheel drive system in existence of course really good steering feel on this one as well. That is one thing that really surprised me when I started driving this. So that's pretty cool. Of course you have excellent resale value. It's pretty much a Subaru thing as well. As far as room for improvement goes on this one like I was mentioning to you guys earlier it is somewhat slow. Wouldn't have minded a turbo charged engine would be super cool. They actually dropped the WRX engine in here and they put a top mount intercooler with a hood scoop that would be pretty darn sweet. And of course CVT transmissions aren't always my favorite but having said that I do like that they put the seven speed manual mode on there but how often do people really use those paddle shifters? Anyways, so I don't know how often it's gonna be used but I do like that it is there. And of course you can use that for engine braking in the snow as well if you wanted to. But that is about it for this one you guys. Thank you so much for watching. Feel free to follow me on social media at the bottom of screen there if you like. Be sure to hit the subscribe and the bell notification button if you're into new car reviews. That is what we do here on this channel after all. Do appreciate you guys watching more than you know and I will see you guys all in the next video. Stay gold.


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That's a weird one None of the rest of them are there's a mad so guard rookie green and Ice crystals is gonna be Travis Konechee Konechee flyers. That's an interesting one I guess see I'm ran into a few shawms and we'll see a few so yeah, this is the thing There's a Seth Jarvis for the canes on the orange Like that green McTavish. There's a frozen ice Nick Suzuki for the haves Suzuki on the thicky Jack Quinn Connect connect me. Okay, neck me neck me Connect me connect the body connect me Jack Quinn is to 599 premiers of Jake Christensen blue jackets Victor headman. There's a Guzamanco ice crystals rookie Canucks Matt Goldie rookie Green capritz off and no a Kate's rookie on the orange color match flyers 30 minutes. Let's go J. Hobbs. 30 minutes. There's a Maddie Baneers green And it's working cracking and ice crystals is Mark Shifley for the Jets Yeah, they probably did yeah for sure because he did it today. So yeah, I'm sure it was They were immediately like nope Alonzo Auto King Felix. That's all you J. Hobbs. Let's go my man Let's go. That ain't bad at all. That ain't bad at all. Yeah with the Alonzo man I I can always find Alonzo. That's for sure. All right, see Kemper. There's an auto It's gonna be Mark Castellic for the senators on the rookie Castellic on the rookie. Yeah, congrats on that J. Hobbs does sound like a nice Nice little day there Jack Hughes and capritz off on the ice crystals Five boxes down box number six Still got spots to go in the next one guys. We'll keep on ripping. We'll get some more hockey going next You see Chan taking a couple Bowman's best or Bowman Chromew, Chromew basketball break it tomorrow with Sam in the morning He'll have that and Bowman's best baseball tomorrow green rookie Marco Rossi for the wild There's a pink of Arthur Kalayev Piont and Green or purple is gonna be rookies Thomas Bordelow Bordelow for the sharks. Hey, let's see it Eagles I'm down for that. Yeah, they got some fire exquisite in this man. I saw Sam pull the pull a nice Vasilezki the other day Patrick Lane. There is Jake Sanderson to 599 premiers senators green rookie Owen power nice one there for the Sabres and And Giretch Jiri at various zero-check Rookie ice crystals blue jackets You know your check your sec green kachuk and a kind of loose on the orange I'm all See some little numbers here Timo Meyer city cross me on the frozen ice the thing frozen ice Slap coffee There's a Koli action up rookie on the green coyotes And to 99 ice one there is Parson in for the Panthers. There's a panther sloms 99 a lowest numbered so far Panthers Seth Jarvis. There's a ice crystals of Johnny Goudreau. I'm almost a third. It's all right Green tapes. There's a kept key rookie Oh Predators, that's what I meant. Sorry predators. I think I said that's why I see out predators. Sorry Lucas Dostel rookie for the ducks and Bo Horvat ice crystals predators not Panthers Matt Boldy on the rookie forgot there is a Panthers on Predators Predators Predators One quiz.  He pulled like ten of him out of the cup Tavish. There's a dimco and Burikosky on the ice crystals Berati so many fillers. Yeah Yeah, we'll run through them. Good luck. Good luck guys Mason McTavish nice Otto We hit him all over the place in the cup Rookie Jack Quinn Sabres. There's a rookie You do this one Jerichak might done that one Baneers on the rookie is a Sam Reinhardt. That'll be for the Panthers That one's Panthers on the blue not numbered green capritz off and a see-through is gonna be to 99 premiers for the For the penguins gonna be Hollander Philip Hollander to 99 Jerichak pretty close Pretty close Green rookie is Maddie Baneers nice one there. I'm crackin Maddie Baneers on the rookie and a I don't know this one Martin ice crystals. I think it's pronounced differently I'm not I'm gonna go for it. So a Darcy Kemper and Jeff Skinner On the orange Jack Hughes. There's a cool cut. It's gonna be cold coffee. Oh nice one there good rookie for the haps Neckis Yeah, I did have maybe I did have it is Jira check Jira check And it's a one or 1299 is gonna be Tyler Tucker Tyler Tucker blues Naches I thought that I think that's what I heard for say it once as that's why I kind of didn't want to go for I feel like I heard a couple different ways in Patty Kane and that'll be slapkosky. I saw in there rookie ice crystals haps Who's a mango by field there's Nathan McKinnon orange green rookie Lucas Reichel for the Blackhawks and Sub-Zero Forsberg Panthers predators predators predators Big cats Appreciate that Gibbs, you know give it a go awesome Matthews on the green and Jerry is Shane right rookie for the Kraken Shane right green Kaleev and Brock Nelson ice crystals Islanders Jack Quinn base rookie Braden point is a Brant Clark Kings on the rookie rookie pink What's this? Oh, no, not up the rim Not the backboard. There's a Tim Stutzla That is a Oliver Bjorkstrand to 99 Borkstrand for the Kraken Jira check I'm down for a case it Green is Kachetkov rookie Kains To 1299 is gonna be a Lixell Lixell Green Josh Norris. There's Matt Boulding nice on there on the die-cut rookie die-cut rookie Jack Quinn Noah Dobson and pink is Kevin Fiala Kings Maddie Baneers base rookie Yeah, definitely on that. It's a lot of cards So you'll see a lot of the same guys on the base and stuff for sure on a car Shane right on the rookie There's a cool cuts rookie a Brant Clark Kings Kent Johnson Quinn Hughes. There is a another Brant Clark to 599 Kings Three of those in a row Loco let's go kale See it La Frenier. There's a Sid the Kid on the die-cut Brati green rookie Mark McLaughlin and orange Stutzla. Let's go boots a coffee election Lookin in and there's a sub zero shy flee for the Jets Green Josh Bailey and Jersey is gonna be Jacob Move rare move a rare for the Kinks rookie Jersey Green rookie is Jake Christiansen blue jackets, and we have a die-cut of Carter for Hague Ice crystals. Alrighty guys box number nine Box number nine have another half of this case guys right after this Right after this guys Over halfway right 13 to go on that 13 to go. Good luck everybody There's a Michael Isamont for the Jets on the pink rookie Patrick Lane There is a Jack Quinn sub zero to 999 rookie for the um sabers Owen power nice green rookie sabers And this will be Dylan Holloway to 599 premieres there for the Oilers Oilers on a run right now Oilers on a run right now the Oilers and the Kraken both been playing some good uh some good hockey There's a um parsonant parsonant on the rookie for the Panthers predators good That big cat dude. I keep seeing that big cat storming off predators goodness All right Sean we'll get there green uh Timo Meyer hella buck for the uh Jets It's the big cats man. What can I do? Owen power rookie big cats are getting me Big cat chase Pearson on the rookie and that'll be a frozen ice of kachetkov Kachetkov on the frozen ice to 25 nice on their canes Lowest number we've seen so far pure to kachetkov on the kinks to 25 Chase Pearson Seth Jarvis So be to 299 it's going to be imama imama for the um imama for the uh Oh Sean's I'm losing it I'm losing it There's a green job of tapes. There's a ice crystals. That one is a rope hints stars ice crystals rupe Roop Roop green lucas dostel rookie for the ducks and orange lafrenier the pollander I know boots. I know I know I know there's a bow or that ice crystals on the die cut. It's the big cat, man Did you Oh nice on the autos oh and power on the rookie for the sabers There we go sabers that'll work oh and power very nice one there We go sabers Uh isamot rookie some nice autos coming out so far really nice autos coming out so far Um marco rossi for the wild in the green And that'll be a um burikovsky on the ice crystals Power we'll mag it we'll mag owen power there. I know he's one of the bigger rookies All right, you guys three boxes left three boxes left I saw that I saw that one.  He doesn't do that very often So he was uh, he was impressed with that one. I don't know you gotta see this one, Kyle I just looked up and saw last time he made me look up. It was when we were milking the cows So it's been about a week I had to have to see that one too Kamakar got a jack Campbell on the pink. No man should have to see that sandberg Ernie johnson milk and a cow milk and a cow chuck milk and a cow. We got a thick one. There's another um Another exquisite it is going to be exquisite rookie of kooza manko to 199 I believe both of them were kooza manko for the canucks Very nice on the exquisite super thick super thick Kooza manko. I wouldn't mind heading up to Detroit this weekend to see the game. I wouldn't mind I wouldn't mind there's a sow guard for the senators And so 299 gonna be a mover rare for the kings Dustle Oliver Bjorkstrand Like a dog Bjork, there is a Kachet call on the rookie ice crystals canes again another kachet call Marco erosi Tavish and a orange jack eichel Is it good? Was that a good game? Is that a good game tonight Vaughn green if a game out rookie kings and that'll be a cool cuts of pasta knock pasta knock for the um Bruins Got our Bruins bear over there in the bottle head horse brought that one in Victor headman on the green and this will be a um chase pierce into 999 premier Redwinks The Pritzoff there's a schistarkin Schistarkin ice crystals I was wondering why that Raptors game was on TNC earlier wasn't them, but uh There's another maddie baneers on the green Go crackin and purple rookie is chase pierce and redwinks Well, it didn't seem like the best matchup to be on TNC But I probably didn't have a ton of games to choose from today Darcy Kemper and sub zero are temmie temmie panarin Holloway green jack hues and that'll be andrew cop for the redwings on the jersey andrew cop ice amount Yeah, I guess they had have a doubleheader too. So you got to get one of the seven park games since there's no uh No football anymore on thursdays Ken johnson ice green rookie there for the blue jackets And city kit crossbeam ice crystals die cut righty two more two moth Get another one going right after this guys still 13 to go 13 to go second half. Good luck. Good luck box number 11 Um Thomas bordelow san jose sharks and a elvis murz lincoln murz lincoln's for the uh blue jackets there There's a mark shy flea on the green and another um another uh Sleeved up that one's going to be a rookie brayton schneider for the rangers on the die cut Brad marshan and this will be a karson meyer to 999 premieres rookie blue jackets Sodor blom a kohlkeppke for the lightning rookie on the green And another uh, igor shisterkin Yeah, I don't know. I don't think so. I don't know first one was brayden point. The second one was a rookie I don't think there was it. They weren't numbered or anything. So I don't know There was the same way when we did it the other day. I don't know what's going on those. There's a kohl koffiel in the green um orange is markstrom Goonther there's a frozen ice of oan power nice rookie there sabers another power Bordelo Green rookie no a kates flyers And that one will be uh slavkosky you got 599 haps nice one there for you, uh Hey, mr.  Oh another thick one. It's the 10 Whenever it is van reams die in front of it It is a auto of nick abruzy 5 out of 10 patch auto for toronto That is a clean-looking card. There's six out of 10 maple leafs premieres rookie patch auto nick abruzy Very nice. We'll get a mag on that that is clean with the uh very sick patch 5 out of 10 Nice one there. Um for the maple leafs who's got toronto in this one That'll be brandon p nice one there for you sir. We'll get that in a mag That is sick. I like that uh like that rp a lot Oh and power on the base behind it Skinner Yeah, we'll have to slider box that one guys that'll be at a uh bigger than a 180 That's the biggest we got on the uh biggest we got on the mags. So we'll get that in a uh Slider box Alrighty guys the last one here number 12 Still got another one of these coming up here next another one next one second guys Geez this box. Good luck number 12 box number 12 Sorry guys one second. I'm trying to get this other one back on the calendar Past little time a little bit. There we go. All right, so it's back He's on towel taking a iowa state in one of our breaks tomorrow Again guys, um release date tomorrow is going to be bowman chrome basketball bowman chrome university basketball The first um lebron james autos for tops We resign with them. There's a like cell rookie green and jack hughes on the pink another base owens green kadri and this will be um so guard on the rookies in 999 senators Chase pierce and this will be um two 999 premieres of brandon bero or the Sabres Kendall taking one of the next one down to 12 Down to 12 breaking here next Got a rookie slavkovski slavkovski there for the habs and a noa kates ice crystals rookie Second inner case coming up next can and there's a capritz off on the um orange Sotr blom green curvy dock and frozen ice is going to be kevin fiala kings rookie uh jordan spence And that'll be tonight or 599 braden uh paschal for the golden knights Reno vetchkin and that'll be braden point on the ice crystal. So yeah, he had one that was sleep I don't think the sleeves me anything Because that's the second one and it's not sleep. So I don't think the sleeves me anything Oh, I got you. I got you.  There's a kachetkov on the orange rookie for the canes.  Is kate and gulay nice one there another one for boots And oh vetchkin on the ice crystals die cut another thick one Oh, that's a pretty color It's gonna be a jacob mova rare on the patch. I was in 99 very nice patch for the kings Rookie patch auto very nice one there 299 that is so thick three color jersey We go kings nice one there close us out. That's another one. That's going to be over one. Hey, there's a very thick one there very last pack green sam ryanhardt and a posture knock on the back ice crystals die cut All righty, and that will do it guys that will do it for 12 boxes Do uh, there's auto recap on this one just auto recap And some patches here. So we have patch auto the jacob mova rare 299 God's mason mctavish base auto got castellak kate and gulay to not 199 um koliachanuk auto We had oh and power on the auto Nice one there sabers and we had the abruzy on the patch auto to 10 premieres patch auto for the maple leaps Alrighty guys that'll do it for upper deck ice hockey um 12 box break number three We will get number four going here in just a minute. Thank you. Dave grabbing a spot Mr. Dave be down to 11 on the next one


Welcome to the Thargoid Report. I'm Commander Burr. This is a distillation of the excellent weekly thread from Burton Simmons on Reddit. For finer details on the why and the what of the Thargoids activity then do give that poster look. I've linked it below. If you find this information useful and enjoy our content then please consider giving the video a thumbs up and hit the subscribe button to make sure you see all our future videos. The following stations were attacked by Thargoids this week and are currently on fire and subject to ongoing rescue operations. Polya Station in Hariji, Reed Installation in Lockheapy, England Hub in Jataya, Rusa Terminal in Veja Deng and Morris Station in Shulky Yain. As well as evacuating civilians from these stations you can also help delivering food, water, basic medicines and natural fabrics to the affected stations. If you are going into a burning station bring all the heat sinks. Links to my previous videos on this subject are below. Also it's worth checking out the Discord for the Post Disaster Evacuation Service which I've linked below. That's an entire community dedicated to conducting rescue operations from the Thargoid affected stations. There you'll find advice and be able to link up with other commanders participating in the relief efforts. If you're looking to attack Thargoids then scout vessel infestations are being reported by the Eagle Eye Sensor Network in the following systems. Ariatia, Nourney, Kawa, Kanganju, Lockheapy and Shoky Yain. If you are engaging in anti-Thargoid scout combat operations you don't necessarily need specialized equipment but the entry level anti-Xeno weaponry requires no unlocking and it really helps. The scout class vessels count as elite ranked ships so this is an excellent way to level up your combat rank. For the more hardcore combat zone encounters the following systems are under Thargoid incursion right now and will have combat zones that offer both scouts and larger Thargoid vessels. Jataya, Shoky Yain, Hariji, Veja Deng, Lockheapy. For the scouts and the death daisies I'd recommend decontamination limpets are added to your standard arsenal and you might want to think about taking shed loads of heat sinks as well. The cone sector critters will struggle to track you when you're cold. With the assistance of the AXI Discord all the systems I've listed this week are now presented in priority order. If you're looking to wing up with other commanders then there's also links below to the AXI, the Hive and the Hand. Between them these organizations have all platforms covered, they're a really friendly bunch and whatever your level of competence they'll help you fight bugs. Wherever you go commanders remember pick your fights with care. If you want to get involved with repair efforts and help get stations back online after an attack then head over to the Operation IDA Discord. IDA coordinate the rebuilding efforts for the wider galactic community and will have you covered on where to go and what to bring with you. All you need is a galactic map and a few cargo racks. They're also linked below. That's it for now thank you so much for making it this far. You can also find us on Twitter, Patreon, Discord and Instagram. Links to all those are in the description below and I'll be back later this week with more videos. Until then O7 Commanders may all your hyperdictions be brief and don't let the danger daffodils give you nightmares. I very much look forward to seeing you next time.


Hello to everyone. Thank you for coming. We're going to be talking about practical Docker for OpenStack. And I just want to reach out thank you to everyone that's here at the last hour of the last day of the conference. And we have a packed room. So thank you. First of all, I'm Eric Windish. I'm an engineer at Docker. And I am working on the Nova and heat drivers for OpenStack. So I don't want to bore you too much with what containers are. I don't think this room would be nearly as full as it is if I had to explain what containers are. But containers are lightweight and they're fast. They run on the kernel. They're not on a hypervisor. They can be as fast or fast, well, maybe not faster, but as fast as running native on a system. There was actually a benchmark that said one time that they were faster than native. And I'm not really sure how that happened. But we'll just ignore that anomaly. And what Docker provides on top of container technology is the solution. Solution for solving the problem of shipping code, deploying code, and running your code in all of these different places, all of these different clouds. From your laptop to your testing environment to your cloud or clouds, including your own local clouds or your OpenStack clouds. Again, either yours or perhaps a public cloud which you're deploying your code on. So Docker provides something that allows you to have the sea of sameness, this mass production of these containers and services that they're homogenous and you can deploy them anywhere and they all look the same. And this isn't just the containerization and the technology that Linux name spaces provides. But it's above and beyond that in a sense of the images and the portability of those images from one machine to another. And the ability of the runtime that wraps around the namespaces that provides a consistent environment for them. Of course, in physical goods, we had the physical shipping container. And in Docker, well, we have Docker for that on Linux systems or we seek it to be, right? So Docker allows you to have a way of running those containers in a consistent environment. See, above and beyond that, the fact that you can run them anywhere allows you to share them. So we have a way of there's a global namespace of images and an index of those images of global index so you can download those and run them on your machine. You can share them with other users. Docker Inc itself. So first of all, Docker is an open-source project with over 400 or 500 active contributors or contributors. I'm not sure how many are active. I'm not sure what the statistic is. We do have those. But we have over 10,000 stars on GitHub, et cetera. There's also the company, Docker Inc, for whom I work. And we have about 35, 40 employees. We have a Series B, et cetera. So use cases for Docker and even containers in some respects are, first of all, loosely coupled isolation. So the fact that they're not VMs and they're on the same kernel means that you can have these microservices that can share things between each other, such as network namespaces, IPC namespaces, file systems, et cetera. So what you can do, potentially, is say that I am going to run two containers. Each of these containers is running a microservice. The first one, and I'll actually show this as an example in heat later, is an FTP service. And the second one is an Apache instance. Now, I'm not saying you should run FTP. But in this example, the one container, the FTP container, only runs the FTP service. It has its own root file system. It has its own network interfaces, et cetera. But you can upload files into that and have them immediately be available within the Apache instance, or the container, rather. So doing this, you have a smaller attack vector. You've constrained your attack surface for each of these containers because they're only running one service each. But then they can share things between each other by being, by the virtue of being on the same host. We have imaging, iteration, and integration. So this is more of a test staging production cycle. But I like to use words that start with I, because it's this cycle. We can do all of these things with Docker. You can build your code on your laptop, test it there, deploy it to your CI systems, and then run it in production all with the same image. And this is all the same environment. For instance, I can do local development. So I have a project. Actually, Paul Szczarski started this, and I stole it from him. He's in the audience here. And it's called Dock and Stack. And with that, I can run Dev Stack locally and run it really quickly, make the changes that I want to in OpenStack, test them, submit them, and that code can potentially be the same code that runs in CI. Now, in this case, we're never going to run that in production because we're not going to run Dev Stack in production. But the fact that I can run the full suite of CI's testing suite on my laptop, as opposed to some customized environment specifically for local development and testing, is really powerful. To continue on, we have the multi-cloud use case. So we can take that image, and we can then not only deploy it on my laptop and in my CI system, but I can deploy it on my cloud. I can deploy it on your cloud. And it should be portable. That image will be importable and runnable in each of these environments. Excuse me. I forgot what the other. Oh, right. So alternative form of virtualization, right? So there is the model where people want to use Docker or containers to provide an alternative lightweight form of virtualization. And most of the users of this model seem to be, as far as I can tell, mostly big data users, people with very tight performance constraints, or people who simply don't care about some of the security aspects of running in containers. And it's a viable model. And there are a lot of people that seem to be interested in doing this. And it seems to be something that will be used and supported in Docker ecosystem to some extent. And then you have, well, and then scale a big data, which is kind of overlapping with that. But that's that overlap. So actually, I should probably clarify, too, that by using Docker on bare metal, for instance, as an alternative to ironic. And not to say that one necessarily has to do that, but you could, say, use a Nova Docker driver as an alternative to ironic for those that want to protect certain things and prevent their users from doing certain things on the host. Now, it may not be a complete isolation, but it allows you to say, well, these processes cannot access these devices. There's a barrier there that makes it much harder to break out and do these things, such as accessing GPUs or accessing firmware on the system, either the BIOS or the firmware on your ethernet card. There are all kinds of attack vectors that once you give somebody access to the hardware, you can no longer verify or attest that hardware can now be safe for use for other workloads, especially in a multi-tenant environment. This is one of the great challenges in projects like Ironic, where they say, great, I just gave this user this hardware. Now we don't know that we can safely put another tenant on it and may no longer be safe. So putting containers there allows there to be a shim where we get that performance, but we don't necessarily give users access to break our hardware. So we're putting Docker and maybe not all the things, but in quite a few things. And we've been put Docker Inc. We've contributed work towards OpenStack Compute, Nova, and HeatProject. But there's also been work in Solom. We have Adrian in the audience. I see him. There he is. We have Tempest in the Teacup, which is part of RefStack and the Defcore to try. It's an image that you can run to verify a cloud that it works with the Docker, sorry, the OpenStack ecosystem, right, that it can use the OpenStack trademarks, and there's an image for that that wraps it all on Docker. And Crowbar has been using Docker as well, and it's not an OpenStack project, but it seems to be tightly enough coupled with the community that it's worth mentioning. That was the Solom data plane, if this slide somehow got in there, but Docker isn't Solom or used by Solom. So I want to go over some of the heat integration. With heat, you can use the heat resource for Docker to communicate to the Docker API. And what this does is it exposes a near-roll version of the Docker API to the user, where you can do just about anything that you can do with Docker in the Docker API, and orchestrate that via heat. What you'll see here in this picture, if I can, Nova is not used and connected here. Now, it's not to say that we're not going to use Nova, but the resource doesn't talk to Nova. Heat uses the resource to talk to Docker. And I'll show in a moment an example of a heat resource, where what we'll do is we're actually going to launch VMs in Nova, and then bring up Docker inside those VMs, and use heat to orchestrate those Docker containers. And one of the great things with this model is that if you're using Ironic or Nova Bare Metal, or even a hybrid cloud situation, where perhaps you're using Rackspace, there's actually a resource for Rackspace, where you could actually launch VMs in these other various environments, and use heat to orchestrate them. Now, when I say Rackspace, you could use that for orchestrating for AWS, or GCE, or something else as well, but they actually don't currently have heat resources. If somebody wants to contribute something like that, that would be fine, and the Docker resource would actually be able to deploy on those. So this is the heat workflow, right? So we use the Nova resource to deploy the VM, and the Docker resource to communicate the Docker, and then Docker provisions containers. See if this works now. I think it's dead. I shouldn't have used the light. So what we do is we can install the plugin. This code should install the plugin, and once you do this, you would then restart heat, and you'll be able to use the plugin. It's not installed and used by default, unfortunately. Perhaps we can convince the heat community to do that, but until then, you install it and you can use it. So this is an example of a heat template. Heat templates can be written two ways. They can be written in XML or YAML. For reasons of readability, I've chosen to use YAML. At top here, what we're doing is we're defining first a resource called MyInstance, and this is a Nova server. So we're going to create a Nova instance, and we're gonna give it a SSH key, so we're gonna be able to get into it. And it's going to have an image, which I'm just calling it Ubuntu Precise. You can use any OpenSec image, and this would probably be even a UUID, right? That's in glance. I wanted to give it some name that you can read. You specify the flavor, and user data is information that's fed into CloudNet, and that's going to say, this thing should install and run Docker. You could use images that are already Docker built-in and baked-in if you wish to. This is obviously an example. Then we have another resource, which we're gonna call MyDockerContainer. So the resource names are arbitrary, and that's a Docker and DockerContainer. That's the Docker resource. And we're gonna say, this resource is going to talk to the Docker API on this IP address, and the IP address being that of my instance. And we're going to launch a start-a-container there called Seros. So this is pretty much the most basic version of a Docker work, a heat stack, using the Docker resource. So we're gonna make the, we're gonna bump it up a little bit, and we're gonna do dock and stack. So we're gonna do Tempest. We're actually going to test OpenStack in Docker on Nova using heat. And doing that, it's not much different, right? We just said the image is going to be the dock and stack image. We're gonna say this is privileged, which actually means this is uncontained. So you can actually run uncontained images with Docker. So you can say, we're not going to apply systems capabilities and so forth. We're going to use namespaces, but we're gonna open up the capability set. And the reason you can do that is for things like nested virtualization, which we're going to do in OpenStack, or rather to say in dock and stack, right? Because we're gonna run Docker containers with Nova inside of Docker, inside of Nova, inside of heat. If anybody could follow that. So here's a slightly more practical example. And this is one of the use cases and why at Docker, Docker Inc, we've been telling people about the heat plugin and why the heat plugin is powerful. Because you can launch these microservices, such as FTP container and Apache container, and they are individually contained, but they're sharing a resource, right? They're sharing the slash FTP directory. And when you can upload files to the FTP server, which is in its own separate container, and those files are now present from the Apache container. So you upload files and suddenly they're on the web, but they're on the web running out of Apache in a different container constrained with its own root user, its own processes or its own process, rather, right? Another interesting thing about this model and this particular example is that FTP container is running Ubuntu and the Apache container is running Fedora on the same operating system. Right, so we also have compute integration. We have the Nova driver and I understand that many people are already running Nova and they want Nova and they want this Nova integration. Despite perhaps some of the limitations and lack of container extensions that currently exist, which I'll go over in a minute, but before I get too deep into it, I really wanna give thanks to a bunch of awesome people who have been helping make this thing better. Each of these people have been contributing in some significant way to the Docker Nova driver and I really thank you very much. So what is the Docker and what does, sorry, what is the driver and what does it do today? And it allows you to control Docker via the Nova API and through that also via the Horizon UI. We can launch containers, we can terminate them, we can reboot them, get serial consoles. We can also get logs, but it's not up here. You can do snapshots. We do have some integration with Glance, but it's not perfect. And recently, maybe three or four weeks ago, we've gotten neutron support, which is really amazing. So a little bit more, but the networking, we have Nova Network, Nesera, OpenContrail, and OpenVswitch integration. And I just wanna add, I actually had lunch with James earlier today and I was telling him that all of this code is actually very generic for Linux containers. So we're probably going to try and see how much we can share with the other container technologies and maybe accelerate some of the feature growth for those drivers. So things that aren't supported in the Docker driver, cinder volumes, suspend and resume, pause, unpause, and live migration. Some of these are kind of hard. Actually, pause and unpause, there's no reason we can't do that. The reason we don't do it is because we don't do it. Adding it is just a matter of sick stop, sick continue, and we could probably add that pretty quickly if we really wanted it. Cinder volumes is kind of hard because what we do is we operate on file systems and not block devices. And exposing those block devices into the container wouldn't even necessarily be so difficult as it would be useless because there's not much you can do with those block devices once you get them into the container because we can't give you the capabilities to mount those inside the container without breaking a lot of the restrictions that we're using to actually prevent you from escalating to root. So it may be possible to provide solutions for that down the road and not even necessarily that far down the road, but we're kind of punting that most likely for the Juno release and perhaps we'll see what we'll get in the next release. Suspend and resume is really hard because if I think about trying to take a process, any arbitrary Linux process and dumping it into memory, shutting down your machine is starting up just that process. It's not just suspend and resume of your host. It's suspend and resume of a process on your host. And there's been some things that people have been working on making this possible over the last decade or so. And what happens is generally you can do this really well for a process that you build around that use case. You say, I want to build a process and an application that I can dump into memory and resume on reboot. You can actually do that. But to do that for arbitrary processes that you dump into arbitrary containers is something that we really can't do easily today. And if somebody wants to make that better, yeah, please. And I should probably note that's kind of feeds back into the live migration story, right? For the same reason that we can't dump the disk, we can't dump it across the network to another host. So what has changed in architecture just for reference is we add the Docker daemon. And so instead of using libvert, when you use the Docker driver, you're talking to the Docker daemon that's on your host. And the Docker daemon talks to the Docker registry which proxies to glance. So images are stored in glance and the Docker daemon downloads them via the registry. So there has been some talk of, well, let me skip to the next slide where it just says what I said, right? So this is controversial. This is probably my most controversial slide on here. So I've been making, having some thoughts about how to better integrate with glance. And one of the thoughts I've had is that glance isn't really strictly necessary in our model and it's not necessarily desirable. As it is today, glance is core and thus part of def core and we must keep glance in the model and in the system in order for an open stack cloud with our driver to actually be considered to use the open stack trademark. So this is something that we're gonna have to figure out with the foundation and as to whether or not it makes sense to continue using glance if we want to continue using glance if we can stop using it and what the ramifications of that would be. These are the things that Nova doesn't do, right? So we are saying that he is a better model for using Docker because we don't have container extensions yet in Nova. Nova doesn't yet do the things that make containers really awesome. Linking container networks is kind of present through security groups but we can't pass environment variables to the containers. So we can't say we're going to launch a process in a container and give it an environment, right? You launch processes, you wanna pass environment variables, especially with for Docker containers where often they're defined in a generic way where we're going to say we need to make an Apache container and we're going to pass a different configuration environment variables or we're gonna give it specific arguments. We're gonna say that this Apache process is going to configure a V host using this domain name and we're going to do that not by embedding that in the image but we're going to make a generic image and then pass the information at runtime, right? These are things that you can do with containers that you don't normally do with VMs that we want to be able to do in Nova or in container extensions or container service down the road. We have the Docker volumes, right? We showed the volumes example earlier with FTP, right? How powerful is that that you can launch these containers and share this information between them and that we just can't do that today. And this is just kind of a side note, right? So once you get those extensions you're gonna want to have affinity. And you're gonna say these containers do these things together, right? They're microservices but they are related. They're in different security domains or in different security contexts but they need to be together. We can only, this container only makes sense in the context of being deployed with that other container. So you can do this in Nova today and you can do it by saying hint, same host and this tells the same host filter for the filter scheduler to deploy on the same host as another instance where the instance is this big long UU ID. That's really great except that it's also not very user-friendly interface. So I would like to really encourage the community to think about how we can make some of these, the UX for this better. So it goes back to the question should I be using heat instead of Nova? And the answer really is not one or the other. Well, I shouldn't say it's not necessarily one or the other it's just a matter of what is your use case, right? Do you need to use Nova? There are particular examples where first of all many of these extensions may in fact land in Nova eventually and there is an effort by the community especially amongst those with the vested interest in containers that are trying to push to get these things as extensions down the road. So from one hand, these things will probably come. On the other hand, you may say I don't want or need these things. I don't care about doing this as microservices or these things don't need to run together. I'm going to use Docker for running my CI and my CI is going to be like dock and stack. It's going to bring up this giant system and test it and that's perfect for my use case and that's all I want and that's all I need and absolutely Nova is great for that. But there are cases where you're going to want to use this forward-looking microservices model with linking services and leveraging these things out of containers that Nova just, at least for now, can't do. So I'm going to talk a little bit about dock and stack. So Paul gets a slide here. Actually he gets quite a few slides. So we built dock and stack for testing because at the time we were being told we had to do third-party CI and I did not want to build a giant system that looked like OpenStack Infra. And not to say that I couldn't but it seemed that there were a whole lot of pieces in motion here that were doing things that I could just dump into a container and run and I could do those things and test them locally on my laptop, right? I can say I want to run DevStack on my laptop and make changes. I mean how many times have I in the past working on other features in OpenStack and I've been working in OpenStack since almost the beginning where I would take DevStack or even before that Nova SH and I'd bring up a container or a VM and run DevStack and then immediately snapshot that VM because I'm going to have to roll, I'm going to make a bunch of changes and then I have to revert and go back to where it was and that's a process I had to do manually and I had to wait over an hour to build that image or to get to the point where I could even do the snapshot. And Dock and Stack is this thing that runs, we can run it every day centrally and you can go online, you can just download this and run it locally on your machine and it takes five minutes to run from start to finish, five minutes to get a running OpenStack installation in DevStack that you can use for testing. And that's really powerful and the great thing about that is that at least for us, that's the same thing that we're using for CI. So I'm going to test my code with Dock and Stack and then I'm also going to use that for my CI. So instead of uploading your code so Garrett can grab it and run it in OpenStack Infra and then find out that something was different from your environment and the CI environment with Dock and Stack, that's not the case. It's completely the same thing from your laptop to infrastructure. Now unfortunately, OpenStack Infra is not using this yet but I would like them to do so. So one of the other things about this is that we're not doing nested virtualization, we're doing Docker in Docker. Or, so I also want to clarify, it's not necessarily Docker in Docker, it can be VMs in Docker. So you can actually do QEMU or LXC or OpenVZ testing inside of Dock and Stack, which is really neat because you don't, now, you can make all the arguments you want about whether or not you should do nested virtualization or not but it's definitely lighter weight, right? You don't have dedicated memory resources, there's no memory ballooning, there's none of these issues of the memory and the nested virtualization artifacts. I kind of covered all this information already about OpenStack Infra and how it kind of boxes everything up, like a bento box, okay. So I want to get a little bit into using Docker with the compute plugin. This is the more practical aspect of how do you install the plugin? Check it out and you install, you do pip install. And you set the minimum you need to do at least is set the compute driver. So there are a couple other configuration options, so there is the Docker registry, you can define where that is, by default, it's going to look on each compute host for that registry, so you can deploy a registry on each host and it acts as a proxy, but you can centralize that proxy and you can specify that as a host for which I forget the config variable name, but you can look at the help file. You can, you would run the registry with something like this. Unfortunately, this is a lot of lines, right, but this is basically saying the Docker, the registry has to talk to Glance and in order to talk to Glance, it needs to know where Glance is, how to log into it, et cetera. Also, the registry supports different backends, so you have to specifically tell it this is an OpenStack backend that we're running, that we're going to be proxying to OpenStack. So you put images into your Docker registry. In this case, what we're going to do is we're going to pull the Serus image from the global index and Serus image is actually in what we call Stackbrew. So the Docker ecosystem has a set of official images that have been curated by the community and Serus has become part of that curated set of standard library images. So you can pull the Serus image and you can tag that image saying that this is going to, that this image, the upstream version of this image is at 10.001 slash Serus. And that means that this is going to, when we do a push, it's going to actually push it and store that on that registry and that registry is going to then push that image into Glance and when we do a Docker pull, it's actually going to talk to the registry and the registry is going to grab that data out of Glance. So again, this integration with Glance is imperfect. Currently, you can't actually push images to Glance and then have Docker understand what to do when you do a Docker pull. Again, we're looking at ways to solve that and it's going to be a matter of discussing this with the right people in Glance and maybe even the foundation and so forth. And this is actually, we're having a session tomorrow about the Docker driver and some of the features that are missing and it's going to include to some degree some of these, the Glance integration feature that matters, right? So after you do all that, right, you can do a Nova boot. And when you do this, it works the same way as you boot any other Nova instance. And you pass your flavor and you pass your image ID which you get out of Glance image show or Nova, I'm sorry, Glance image list or Nova image list just like any other Nova container or instance. So I'm going to take questions but I just want to add that I did a V Brown bag earlier today where I'd actually do a demo which was about 11 minute demo of actually running Dock and Stack and it's just a matter of basically of either building or downloading the Dock and Stack image and running it. So I will take questions. I've heard CRI use is being used for doing live migration as snapshots. Is that working or a work in progress? I'm not sure about the progress on that exactly. The thing with CRIU is that there are, my understanding is that certain things that we're doing in Docker don't map or don't work with CRIU and CRIU doesn't work with all processes. So it is somewhat limited and it may work for many processes but it won't work for all and it's still uncertain, at least to me, whether or not it's going to work with containers because some of the kernel features that containers require don't necessarily work with CRIU. You do? Okay. Working on it, okay. So James Volley was just mentioning that Parallels has been testing it and have some progress maybe. And I know that there have been people at Docker as well looking at it. I'm just not sure what the status is. Okay, thanks. Just one more question. Your Dock and Stack, will it boot actually like Docker containers and VMs? That can talk to each other? Yes, yes. So Dock and Stack can run Docker containers and VMs. I've tested it with LXC but we have had people that have reported that they've run KVM inside and it works. I just haven't personally been testing it. One of the issues that we have is that if you're using KVM currently, it wants to install LibGestFS and LibGestFS does technically work inside of Docker but the app packages require fuse which doesn't work inside of Docker. So when you install the packages for LibGestFS, installs packages that don't work inside of Docker. So it's slightly problematic. I was right. No, I didn't mean KVM inside of Docker. I meant like a Docker container running a guest talking to like something managed by Livevert outside of Docker. You were saying automatically having Nova launch KVM containers that run Docker inside? No, no. Either like Noboot could run Docker as a Docker container or run a glance image as a KVM thing like having two different kind of... So you're talking about a multi-hypervisor Nova. So there has been work on multi-hypervisor Nova installs and I believe that this works already today but if not then it exists as a blueprint. Yes. So what does it mean for, what does flavor translate to for a container? So the containers actually do support CPU weights or CPU shares and supports memory limits. So you can say that this, using C groups, it will say this process or processes cannot exceed this memory limit. So the flavor restrictions actually do apply to containers equally. However, they are not like for instance, Zen, at least traditional Zen for which I'm actually fairly familiar. I would never use balloon drivers. I would say I'm going, this instance is, or this VM is gonna have this much memory and it's not gonna be able to shrink or grow and these processes in Docker are not actually consuming a host memory, right? It's not fully allocated memory. It's just the memory that they're actually using is consumed. Are containers integrated with Solometer? You know, I've had conversations with Nick Barcet and some of the Solometer folks and to be quite honest, I'm not sure. So they, I have heard that it's been looked at but I've not been personally looking, it's not been really on the radar yet and it may be something that comes up in the discussions in the design summit tomorrow but considering that there are like big things that are missing like features and testing for the third-party CI for reintegration into Nova, I personally have higher priorities but if people are going to test it and submit patches then you're welcome to do so because that would be great. More questions? If not, we can go home early because it's the last day and I'm sure you would all enjoy that. Thank you.


Around Dodge City and in the territory on West, there's just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers, and that's with the U.S. Marshal and the smell of gun smoke. Gun smoke, starring William Conrad, the story of the violence that moved West with Young America, and the story of a man who moved with it. I'm that man, Matt Dillon, the United States Marshal. The first man they look for and the last they want to meet. It's a chancey job, and it makes a man watchful, and a little lonely. When the boy said you wanted to see me. Yeah. Well, it better be important, mister. I don't make a habit of coming running with sudden saddle-punk whistles. Now, maybe you hadn't ought to make a habit of calling people saddle-punks. No offense. Just an expression. Sure. I came up from the Pekus country. Been here in Dodge about a week. Maybe you've seen me around. I've seen you. I've been talking to people. Oh.  Had all the games sewed up with three or four saloons paying off, a couple of hotels and so on. Then the boom busted and you come here.  You know why? You're talking. You tell me why. Dylan. Well, I named Matt Dylan. You tried to scare him, and he wouldn't scare. So he tried to buy him. He wouldn't buy. Tried breaking him, and he wouldn't break. So, be worth a thousand dollars to you if I kill him? It might. All right. Get it and go. Keep it handy. Yeah? Yeah, you're hired. Now, Chester, you haven't said three words in the last 20 minutes.  Mr. Dylan, did you ever get a funny feeling that somebody was keeping an eye on you? Ah, yeah, but... Well, I got one right now. You know, Chester, I think you got a touch of the heebie-jeebies. As far as I can see, there's nobody in the whole place paying any attention to it. Somebody is. I had the same feeling the day the Butler Brothers had come back to San Fee. Yeah? I didn't even know they was in town, but I knew somebody was getting ready to call us. And about six o'clock that evening, they made their play. Do you remember? Yeah, I remember. I was one of the Hall Bears next day. Well, it's the same doggone thing right now. You know, I think you've got the wind up over another, Chester. Now, town's never been quieter. Jail's been empty for two weeks. The only new faces around is that bunch of trail drivers that came up from the pickets. They're all strangers.  What? Been looking all over for you. Oh, hiya, Billy. Now, wait till it's Jail for nine hours an hour. I got to talk to you, Marshall.  Well, I take money this time, Marshall. I got something to tell you. A what? Something I heard. There's a couple of fellas talking over the lyrics table. They didn't see me. I was back at the water cross. Sort of. Well, the rest, you might say. Well, you know how it is, Marshall. Yeah, I know. A man gets dry in his furry country. What were they talking about, Billy? You went up and offered to kill you for $1,000 in gold, and the other one took him up on it. Oh, were they, Billy? You know what? No, sir. It is dark, and I didn't recognize the voices. They was already there when I woke up them and they left right after that. Well, maybe it was some kind of a joke. It didn't sound that way to me. There ain't no joke, Mr. Don. I felt it.  Can you figure who you want to do such a thing, Mr. Don? I can figure a dozen or two, just... Well, I mean... Here we are. Come on. Good morning, Marshall. I haven't seen you since the robbery last month. Attempted robbery, Mr. Barkin. So it was, thanks to you. Well, Marshall, the bank's at your service. What can I do for you? Give me some information, if you will. Well, if it isn't confidential. It is, but I want it anyway. Well, I hardly know what to say. Perhaps we'd better step into my office. All right. What was it you wanted to know? Your customers has drawn a thousand dollars in gold from the bank in the last few days. Any particular person in mind? Well, that's what I want to find out. Well, I hope this won't go any farther, Marshall. Who was it, Mr. Barkin? I certainly wish to make it clear that I don't approve of this man, but after all, he is a good customer and it's not my place. Yeah, I know. Who was it? Lawson Hale. Lawson Hale? He took the gold out just this morning, as a matter of fact. Said he was working on a cattle deal of some sort. I do hope you'll regard this as confidential, gentlemen. Yeah, sure. Well, Chester, we know who one of them is now. But who's the other, the one who's actually going to do it? Some punk who wants a thousand dollars bad. Doesn't care much how he gets it. Make sure I don't narrow it down any. I know. Any people out? Not many. That moon's throwing quite a bit of light. Kindly makes a target out of a man. If somebody without the shoot somebody, this would sure be a good night for it. You might as well make a comment. Thought that's what you were doing, Chester.  This way, you're just asking for it. Look, Chester, if it's going to come, it'll come. I'd rather meet it halfway than to sit and wait for it. Asking for it? Asking for it? That's what you're doing. It's been two days now, Chester. It gets on your nerves. When you go out to bring a man in, you know you may have trouble and you're ready for it, but this way it's... Kindly bothers man. Yeah, let's walk on down to the long ranch. It's good to see you, Matt. You've been avoiding us the last couple of days. Been busy, kid. Want to sit down? I don't think so. Not right now, anyway. Something bothering you, Matt? What? Bothering me? Well, yes. She seemed to be on edge about something. Yeah, what? Lost mail just came in. Down the bar there. Yeah. I have a talk with him, Chester. Well, that's one way. That's the one I haven't tried yet. Excuse me, kitty. Sure, Matt. Now you be careful. Those good days are... Why don't you lie in the palm of my hand? Sit down, boys, grab her pay, and head straight for one of these. Tell me what I can do for you. Yeah. I want to talk to you. Well, I don't see nothing stopping you. Let's move down the bar ways. Sorry, but I'm fine right here. Why don't we move down the bar ways? If it's that important to you, pardon me, boys. Let's come back and finish that story. You had yourself a gunman. You sent him out to get me. You offered him $1,000 in gold. I don't know what you're talking about, Dylan. You wouldn't care to tell me his name, would you? No, I don't think so, because you see I don't know nothing about it. What's he waiting for? He's had two days now, and he hasn't made a move. Well, like I say... Why don't you do the job, Hale? And save yourself some money. You've got no quarrel with you. You mean you're yellow? I'm scared to call your own place. I said I've got a weaseling, no-gut cow at Hale. I looked that right for the time being. I thought you wouldn't. Let's get some fresh air. See you later, kiddie. Doc. All right, man. Yeah, I guess you just need the kind to take chances, Mr. Dylan. He doesn't need to, Chester. I've got a hair killer problem somewhere around. Forced to play myself. There's business to leave it up to the other man. Yeah, I saw the flash. Reckon you got him, Mr. Dylan? I don't know. Let's move in. Looks like he got away. Took one shot, and we're running for cover. But he'll be back. Chester! Stop squeaking that chair. He's gone by, and he hasn't made another move. Yes, sir. That cottonwood shore burns up faster. I guess I better shake down the stove and throw another. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Might be a way at that, Chester. Lawson Hale. That's the only fact we're sure of, Lawson Hale. It'd be kind of hard to prove anything, Mr. Dylan. Who said anything about proving it? I got an idea.  I know, but I can scare him. If I figure him right, I think he'll scare easy. You sure? We're all the same. There he is now, Chester. Just came out of the long branch.  Hang on. There's not an ounce of nerve and a dozen like that. Come on. Hale. Hold it, Hale, right where you are. What seem to be trouble now? No trouble unless you want to make some. You're under arrest. What for? I'll think of something. You're taking me in without even making a charge? I'll remind you there's witnesses here. Yeah, so I notice when they're not hanging around you, they're after somebody else. What have you done, Hale? Hired them, too. I asked you what the charge was, Marshall. Vagrancy. Vagrancy. As far as I know, you've never had any visible means of support as long as you've been in... I'll match any dollar of yours with a hundred better ones. Fine. That'll help pass the time. Now, look at here. Marshall, you think...  All right, boys. Break it up. The party's over. You had your last free drink out of this pump. Now, let's go to jail. Keep walking. It's the last cell on the left. Oh, Dylan. Dylan, I'll break you for this. Oh, help me. You've been trying it for a year, and I'm still around. You won't be after this. Shuster, unlock the door. All right, get inside. Make yourself at home. There's nothing to hold me on. Nothing at all. I'll be out of here by tomorrow noon. Without that, in fact, there's a pretty good chance you'll never get out of that cell, not alive, at least. What are you talking about? According to the law, I've got a right. The law, huh? You've broken out every chance you've got. Tried to break the men who serve it, but when your own neck gets caught, you start hiding behind the law. All right, fine. Right now, the law out here is kind of sketchy. Now, this little affair between you and me is one of the things the law doesn't quite cover. You're going to run it my way. Yeah, kind of talk isn't going to help you. You've hired a man to kill me, offered him $1,000 to get me out of the way. You can't prove that. He's made one try and missed. He's still around dark somewhere, waiting. Now, he'll try again. That's your problem. That's not mine. I don't know anything about it. You know what'll happen though if he does get me? The first thing Shuster's going to do is to come straight back here to the jail and pop a couple of bullets through these bars. Your boy may kill me, Hale, but you're not going to live to profit by it. He wouldn't. He wouldn't do that. Shoot down a helpless prisoner. One of you would do it. Shuster and I've been friends for a long time. Why don't you ask him whether he'd do it or not? You bet I'd do it. No, no, you wouldn't do it.  I don't see where you got any kick coming. Well, there's your answer, Hale. No, he wouldn't. Come on, Shuster. Let's go look the town over. No. No, well, it's tonight that he's going to... Tonight? Who's going to do what? I don't know. I don't know anything about it. Well, that's too bad. If I knew his name, I'd have a lot better chance. And so would you. See you later. Or any way, Shuster will. No. No, Dillon, you can't do it. Dillon, you can't go out in the street. He'll get you short. Dillon, no. Wait a minute. I'll tell you his name. All right. He came up from the fake us last week. His name is... His name is Ed Grainger. Ed Grainger? You've seen him around the bars. He's dark-haired, surly looking fella. He's got a scar across the cheek. Shuster, let's go get him. All right, Mr. Dillon, we'll live at the end of the bar. Looks like he's by himself. What are you going to do, arrest him? Well, there's no evidence, Shuster. Only one way I see is to make it personal. You stay out of it. Just cover me, that's all. Yes, Mr. Grainger. Your name, Ed Grainger? It might be. You know who I am? Judging by the star, I reckon you're a U.S. Marshal. You ought to do better than that. After all, I'm worth a thousand dollars to you. Who says so? Loss on Hale. Hale? The memory's getting better, huh? I don't know what you're talking about, Marshal. Sure you do. That deal you made with Hale. He told me all about it after I threw him in jail and persuaded him a little. I told you, I don't know any... You're wearing a gun there, Grainger. Why don't you draw it and go for the thousand dollars? Why don't you take a chance? This fella you're talking about's in jail. I reckon he wouldn't have anybody working for him now, would he? You tell me. I got no reason to draw on you, Marshal. Not unless my back's turned. I ain't drawing. Grainger, you tried to kill me the night before last. Can you prove that? If I cut you'd either be in jail or dead right now. Well, since you can't prove it, what's the argument? Just that I don't like the idea of somebody trying to shoot me in the back. If you're any man at all, we'll settle this right here and now. You leave me alone, Marshal. You still figure you got no reason to draw on me? I ain't drawing. Grainger, you got ten minutes to get out of town and when you're out, stay out.  Yes, sir. You can start right now. We're nearly midnight, Mr. Dillon. Yeah, about that, I guess. Are you clear this is sure one day I'm glad it is over? Yeah, so am I. At least I can breathe a little easier now. I'll just get the power built up a little. No, I'll leave it, Chester. Take care of the prisoner first.  What are we going to do about him? Same as with Grainger. Turn him loose, run him out of town. It should have done it months ago.  All right. Looks like he got Hale over at the winter for a talk and grabbed him and cut his throat right there. I figured Hale had sold him out. Got a bulletin on the wire, Chester. Wanted for murder at Grainger. All right, Mr. Dillon. I guess Hale got pretty much what he bargained for. He hired himself a killer in order to kill him. He got it. John McDonald stars William Conrad as Matt Dillon, U.S. Marshall. The story was specially written for Gunsmoke by Les Crutchfield with editorial supervision by John Meston. In the cast were Lawrence Dodkin, Big Karen, Ralph Moody, and Joseph Kern. Harley Bear is Chester, Howard McNeer is Doc, and Georgia Hawkins is Kitty. This is George Walsh inviting you to join us again next week when CBS Radio presents another story on Gunsmoke. M&FM CBS Radio in Los Angeles.