Good evening. Good afternoon. Good morning to you all. This is going to be I think fairly in-depth. I want to cover today Everything as much as possible. I can't say everything because it'd be difficult to try to cover everything That the Bible has to say about demons particularly being demonized or being Possessed or being oppressed any of those things because and let's just we're also going to get into this whole issue This whole topic of what is the right terminology to use? You're gonna find that there there are some people who believe that it should be Possession oppression being vexed having a demon or demonize we're gonna get into all of that and I've got to kind of let you know what I've been with this I've got Three windows open in terms of the Bible software Plus the other Bible software logos. I've got both up both Bible softwares opened up Because I wanted to make sure that what I cover and what I say is thorough and complete I Believe and this is for anyone who is really curious about how this stuff works Whether you you side on one side of the ledger that says that this that these deliverance ministries are true in biblical or they're not I Believe that obviously you all know where I stand that I believe that they're not Now there might be someone who has the right heart the right mind the right motives But the wrong understanding that's fine. That's fine But I think though it causes some harm if we don't understand What we're talking about now if you look up the term Demon matter of fact, let's make sure I've got all this stuff set over here correctly I think I do if you look up the term demon in the Bible one that and there's two words for the word demon In the Hebrew the be shea the Shadeem. There's actually another word For Hebrew, I mean for demons in Hebrew, but then in the Greek There's the word diamond which by the way if your name is Damon or you've got a son named Damon or a friend named Damon that literally means demon so But that's where we get the Greek word the Greek term not true for it But I want to show you guys where in the Bible how often do we see the term? Demon you'd be surprised once you see how often or really How not often the word demon is in the Bible? And so let's just start here if you look on the on your screen The first time we see the term The Hebrew term demon is in Leviticus Leviticus 17 Leviticus 32 we see Damon and now if you'll notice something I well matter of fact before I tell you what to notice I want to see if you can kind of catch on to it for yourself Psalm One hundred thirty seven one on six thirty seven demons and then you see obviously in the Gospels all throughout the Gospels You'll see the term demon or demons and then once we I'm just I'm scrolling through because we'll come through some of these again But as you come through then you come and look and see as a matter of fact, let's do this Let's make it a little bit bigger so you all can see it even better We're still in the in the Gospels a matter of fact Until we get to at let's see James revelation We weren't really worried too much about the terms for demons or the uses of demon in Revelation I'll tell you why in a second, but we see it in James. We see it in 1st Timothy One time in 1st Timothy in 1st Corinthians one time So but that's not the only word that we see For demon that's not the only time that the word demon is used or the only word that speaks of Demon the Bible talks about these evil spirits and so even the Bible We see this these evil spirits and so the first time we see the term evil spirits comes up in judges And it's interesting about these evil spirits The question that has to be asked is Are these evil spirits? Sent by the devil are they sent by God well in some cases it says Clearly they have been sent by God is that God sent the devil to send them or sent a demon to send to send them That's the part that's not as clear because we do know that in Joe Satan who by the way another term for or some people think It is synonymous with demons are the sons of God I don't think that that term necessarily means sons of God There are people that believe that before we go back to evil spirits. Let's look at sons of God and so in Genesis 6 to It says that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful Then we see sons of God again in 6 4 Job 1 6 now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord and Satan Also came among them well It seems to differentiate between the sons of God and Satan at this point in time Satan is no longer Having his abode with or his rank before his fall. This is after his fall And so there's there's a differentiation between Satan and The sons of God are you with me? And so I don't want to blame her that that particular point But just in case you think that the sons of God refers to demons best fine for the sake of this argument It's not going to matter, but we'll notice the sons of God and how it's used We don't see it a lot now when it switches over when we get to the to the New Testament into Matthew Clearly, this is not talking about sons of God. It's clearly not talking about any demons or any demonic influence. Are you with me? We see this all the way through Galatians for you are all sons of God That's clearly not speaking about anything demonic. It's clearly speaking of us as believers Are you with me?  We see in judges Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of shekem first Simon 16 14 of the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul and an evil spirit From the Lord terrorized him and so we see this evil spirit So we see something happening these these evil spirits this rock also from them This was is a raw raw, which means Spirit evil or spirit bad a bad spirit or evil spirit now Does that necessarily mean that the spirits that this is some demon some demonic influence? No, it does not this can also mean guys. I want you to hear this this can also mean just God putting a spirit on this person giving this person kind of a melon colleague matter of fact lower than the melon colleague Obviously, but a bad feeling a distressful feeling that necessarily have to come from a demon now It could the problem is we just don't know if you study the different ology soteriology Hormatology demon ology you're gonna find that demon ology is One of the studies that doesn't have a whole lot to go off of as compared to other studies As a matter of fact what you're also going to notice is when we think about The devil himself who obviously has a rank over all demons When we think about him How many times does the devil actually speak in the Bible? Not a lot Genesis we see him speaking to to Eve in Genesis 3 we see Him having a conversation with God in Job and then we see when he goes and tries to tempt Jesus during his 40-day fast So those are the only times that we can think of where Satan not that he's busy We know of his activity, but we actually hear or know what has come out of his mouth We heard what he said now some may say that when he says that the set that when the devil says that I will Be like the most high and I will sin. That's fine if you want to add that as well That's probably taking to me what he is intending or what he's thinking But if you want to say that that what's came out of his mouth verbatim, that's fine Also, but if as a case in only four times, why is that what we're gonna find out that what demons say and What the devil says Not that important I want y'all think about that for a second what the deem what demons actually say and What the devil actually says in the grand scheme of things is really not that important because how many times do we find? Demons speaking we don't we don't find demons speaking in the Bible recorded times Well, they've actually spoken an awful lot think about that for a second as we go through and so we see the this evil spirit these evil spirits throughout the Old Testament Now we do see one one time in Acts 19. We know this to be a Demonic spirit or demons because in Acts 19 This is where the seven sons of Siva come in he says and the evil spirit answering said to them I recognize Jesus. This is one of the times where the evil spirit actually speak or demon actually speaks And so he says I recognize Jesus and I know about Paul But who are you? We will probably come back to this passage a little later on But I'm trying to point out something to you guys How often or how few times is a better way to put it how few times we actually see the terms? Demon the terms that are either demon itself or synonymous with demon so demon in The various in the in the various ways plural or singular Evil spirits sons of God now. There's other ways to look at this whole issue of demon possession and I want to kind of also cover this whole issue of of What's the right terminology? What's the right terminology and then does it really matter so for that being the case? I want to go over to Lagos Lagos software. I I I do some studying on Lagos I just don't usually put it on the screen because it's just it can be difficult and kind of cumbersome for Everyone to follow and so I'll go to a particular screen a section on Lagos and then I'll move it over And so if you look over here, there's this term that comes up with this word Demon I'm a noxy. I Can't even say the dog on word myself Diamond nix of my diamond nix of my we're gonna find out. Why is this term actually used if I can figure out Where my cursor is there it is So this term is only used in the New Testament 13 times The reason why that's important is because there are some people that are gonna want to tell us that But this word diamond nix of my is the correct term the correct usage for this What has happened is in the care and I'm not trying to put down the charismatic movement at least not right now But you do not find the greatest source of Scholarship in the charismatic movement. It's not it's not a put down. It's just an actual fact They themselves will tell you that There needs to be more people who have this belief this charismatic or Pentecostal belief who are have also spending more time in studies Because what we do end up seeing is that if there's ever if there's one group that tends to kind of impugned people for studying the most It's going to be Pentecostal charismatic And so that's not a good thing I don't care what side of the ledger you're on if if one of your biggest complaints for someone who comes against you that they study too Much that's not a good complaint guys And so in terms of scholarship what's happened is there's this kind of kerfuffle that that's come up And that is which word do we use and there are some people and I don't know if you all saw this but Dr. Brown Dr. Michael Brown put out a Facebook post or tweet. I think it was a Facebook post I ended up seeing it a Facebook post Where he bothered a lot of the people that look up to him. Why is that because there's just not a lot of people with actual? genuine or bonafide credentials There are people that have the term doctor behind their name But when you go and look at the the seminary of the place where they got their doctorate from it may be a paper meal Are you with me? But Dr. Michael Brown his is not he I mean he went to a show no university and he's got a PhD I think it's a Near East let near ancient Near East languages something like that Anyway, he has departed from a lot of the charismatic in terms of can a human being who's a Christian also Have a demon in them And so now you got one of the main guys who has who does not believe that and have say this though And then you've got people who who promote deliverance ministries and I'm saying deliverance ministries because that's what they say And so for the for the time being Will equate deliverance ministries not the off what I would consider to be the authentic deliverance ministry What well will call deliverance ministries what they mean those guys who spend time casting demons out there They're promoting a movie They are in their churches and so forth those kind of people and so the people in the deliverance ministry was they were bothered by That there's only a there's not a lot of people who have a lot of serious scholarship That's put on the table that will back that up there is one such person named Sam storms who now they turn to and he I Don't have any anything any real big issues with him now He's some of his issues other of his contemporaries who Know the language is far better than me or him Would would differ that there's there's a reason why you've got a lot of people who? Who have spent time in the scriptures who have their? A thorough understanding of the languages and so forth who just do not see this Because they don't see it they they don't try to see it the way we see it They try to see it the way the Where the language takes them now that might be a good thing might be a bad thing But the point of the matter is that there are not a lot of contemporaries of Sam storms I want to point to a passage though or a statement that he makes To me just kind of notifies a lot of what he says it is classic ice-eating a belief into a text matter of fact all through this they put out a letter some time ago and What it does is when you read it and you read his explanation It's just ice-eating all the way through so what I want to do is I want to go through this and Pull up here. We have on here If you look and see You look and see Matter of fact, let's make this a little bit bigger because I want you guys to see it That one makes a might shows up 13 times in the New Testament Now what I want to do is I want to pull go back over here Minimize this a little bit and look at some of the passages that Speak of this term down next to my let's move these lexicons over a little bit So I want you guys to see these as well Let's see So here's the first one Matthew 4 24 and the news about him spread throughout all Syria and they brought to him all who were ill though suffering from various diseases and pains Demaniacs and there's that term for the money acts is Dominic Smauer in this case Dominic. So men us which is the term for demon eyes now 13 times in the New Testament We see this term that standing by Dominic Samai, but it's a tense a variation of the word Dominic Samai now any Greek students will hear that term I at the end and wonder is This a passive verb. Is this a middle verb or is it? Deponent it's not dependent for those of you who understand Greek It's not deponent and so it's either passive or It's middle for you English-speaking folks We know what passive middle is meaning that it's done to us So there's a reason why the term Dima nixamai or Demon eyes is used to be conveyed by some scholars by matter of fact the vast majority of Greek scholars the vast majority of Greek scholars The people that taught Sam storms Translate this term it can be demon eyes, but they translated as demon possessed Now some are going to say well that comes from the from following the history Or the tradition of the King James version. No, it's not because this this predates this term being translated into Demon possessed predates the King James version. So it's not a King James version issue. Okay There's a reason why the term is Dominic Samai why it is demon possessed now, let's go back over to Wagas and All of these passages Matthew 424 Matthew 816 Matthew 828 Matthew 833 932 Matthew 1222 Let's let's go one of these Matthew 1220 then a demon possessed person is this is Dominic Samanos and then we go to Matthew 1522 I'll click on it. Oh, it's hard up there then a demon possessed person mark 1 32 Why is it now? There it is mark 1 22 when even came after the Sun had said they began bringing him all who were ill and those who were demon possessed or Dominic Samanos, which is if you want to use a term demonize and by the way, I don't have a problem if you use a term demonize I Could care less if you use a term possessed oppressed demon eyes That matter I'm gonna give you a Greek understanding as to why it actually does not matter and No one and you don't see folks with any real scholarship making this point There's only a few people out there making the point. What's the correct terminology? Only a few people and so and you'll see why in in just a second. So Here's some more of those terms or some more of those passages Luke 8 36 Those who had seen it reported to them how the man who was demon possessed had been made Well, John 10 21 others were saying these are not the sayings of one demon possessed A demon cannot open the eyes of a blind man, but back to 8 36 those who had seen it reported to them how that the man who was demon possessed and I Want I want to pay attention to the to the fact that one there's a differentiation that's being made between People that are sick and even possessed But then what he says that though the man who was demon possessed because it seems to me that Everyone in the Bible that had a demon everyone knew previously that that person had a demon and it was evident so and we're gonna get to this issue of Manifesting demons manifesting how demon possession and casting demons out today Looks vastly different then the Apostles how they did it how Jesus did it and the demons or the other people who were demonized at that time Now just go back to this particular software again to Lagos. Let's Let's move this over some I Don't necessarily want to look at the Greek text. I do want to look at the the actual Where's it at? I don't know. Oh, I know what I have to do. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, it is. It's stuck on there Let's click on this. There it is. So now this term diamond diamond X or my diamond X or my This is in the heiress passive tense Now because in the passive tense and by the way if we look at the definitions They're gonna keep telling us that it is under the power of an evil spirit someone who is possessed Someone who is maybe oppressed or vexed someone who has a demon the reason why I point this issue of having a demon is because and the reason why they use this as possessed is because this person is Demonized but it's in the passive tense or the middle tense works the same way If it's in the passive tense if the word is in the passive tense That means the outside force the demon is under or is controlling the person So when we say a person is possessed No one obviously the Bible uses what's called anthropomorphic terminology terminology to where us as human beings can understand what's happening The reason why I say that is because to say demon possessed is giving us an understanding of what's happening Do we think the demon literally owns the person that the person's his property? No And so when they say that obviously no one thinks that The issue is what is the demon doing? Which is why we see let's go back to a good old friend the accordance Bible software Where we'll see the majority of the cases in the New Testament when someone Is under the influence of being attacked by a demon. It's not diamond X of mine It's not that it is one of the other ones. It is in this case someone having a demon Someone being vex or with a demon as a matter of fact Let's go look at the examples in the New Testament where we see a person having a demon Matthew 11 18 For example says John came neither eating nor drinking and they say he has a demon And this is them making the accusation, but I'm still saying that they're saying that he is possessed Let's look at Luke 8 27 and when it came out Unto the land and he was met by a man from the city who was possessed with a demon Now this possessed part is the Greek word at home, which is having having a demon and Who had not put anyone on any clothings for a long time? It was not so now We go through here Luke 11 14 John 7 20 John 8 48 John 8 52 John 10 20 many of them were saying he has a demon the same words aka if we see over here in the Greek aka So having and so we keep seeing this terminology used of someone who has a demon as a matter of fact That's used more common or these other terms are used more often than demonize Is there any difference so far as we look through the scriptures when we look and see demon eyes or Having a demon or with the demon or vex is there any difference? No, there's absolutely no difference Now if there is no difference, then we need to figure out what is meant. There's a reason why Greek scholars today There's a reason why Greek scholars of the past they translated as being demon possessed there is a reason why as Someone same as having an evil spirit now I want to stop for a second and I want to pull this passage I mean this back up and I want I want to see if you guys notice this Okay, let me close this I didn't mean to do that. I did not mean to do that Let me fix this for a second and fix this real quick and I want to see if you guys notice something If I go back over here to the word demon Let me move this over just a little bit once you guys are see All right, let me move this as well There it really is no need for these will move it over But I want you to notice something if you guys were to do a word search on your own and Go back from the beginning to the end what what you're going to see is Throughout all of the Bible This demonic activity that we see that spoken of It's confined to a short window to a small window Matthew Mark Luke John and acts That's where we see the overwhelming majority of demonic activity and then what mankind Does in dealing with demonic activity in Those books Matthew Mark Luke and John and acts. Why is that? Why don't we see? Or do we think that demon possession started in the Gospels if it started before if people had demons before Why don't we see at least once in the Old Testament? Anybody having a demon cast out of them now a spirit would leave But we don't see and obviously God can cause a spirit to come or go But we don't see under the hand of a human being Some professional faith and like that causing a demonic spirit or an evil spirit or a demon to leave Why don't we see that then? Then the other question is and this this is the part that's germane to the biggest portion of what we're talking about tonight is Why don't we see it after acts? That's kind of more to the point because the question is going to be What do demons do what do they do in us who do they do it in and can it happen amongst all people? We all believe that non-christians can have some sort of demonic influence But what about Christians? What does the Bible say and I'm just gonna I'm be honest there I I'm bothered and sorry about some of the answers or the responses that I hear and I just wish that people would because the other side would say You guys don't believe what we believe and so forth well if what you believe is important Why don't we have this dialogue? Why don't we have this conversation? There should not be a back-and-forth where we can just simply have a conversation and so So what I want to do is I want to Cover let's see here this I want to cover some of the different aspects of it now the proper term. It doesn't matter Since the tense of the verb that's being used indicates that a person that a person Is under the influence of a demon then oppressed possessed demonized all of those things Mean the same thing demonized demon possessed Oppressed Vex same difference. They all literally mean the same thing Which is why would you go to the Greek grammars? They're gonna say the same thing You go to B dag when you go to The Greek what is this? That's kind of I had pulled up The analytical Lexicon of the Greek New Testament Mounts is Greek New Lexicon New Testament Lexicon. You they all say the same thing Now it's not that one one person who is not a Greek grammarian Let's get it clear Sam storms is not a Greek grammarian It can't be that the actual grammarians go this way and he goes that way That can't be the case at least that's not a thoughtful way of looking at it Well, he's got it right. Why does he have it right because I believe what he believes No, let's at least look at the other side Now there are some reasons where or why certain people say certain things like the spirit of This and then so forth I think some things look a little bit or sound a little bit kooky We'll see where those things come from because there is at least a basis for it But to continue it going forward. I think it's unfounded But anyway, so the proper term for what we're talking about it can be demon possessed It can be demonized it can be oppressed It literally does not matter the issue is and you'll notice that a lot of them are turning from how I used to see it It is a demonic spirit having some sort of internal influence Now some will say that the demonic spirit is having an external influence and influence on the flesh Well, even Sam storms would Disagrees with that because it's true It's not and by the way guys we have this thing where we decide that bad Activities or bad behavior is a result of a demon. No, it's not How do I know because the very first sin was not a demon on the inside of a person? When he decided to eat the fruit and when Adam agreed there was no demon on the inside of either one of them and So the fact of the matter is our flesh is sufficient enough at sinning Our flesh is disappointing enough to where a demon can never come around us ever and we would still find a way to mess up That's just what human beings do. That's what we are It's like it's like dogs who bark cats who meow and chickens who whatever chickens do That's what humans do Okay, and so what we have this tendency of doing is blaming things on demons Versus us but if that was the case then God would not hold any of us accountable He would hold himself accountable because he's the one that put the demons on him on this plan in first place He's the one that cast him out of heaven if the demons were responsible for our sin Then he would not hold us guilty. He holds us guilty because we sin right with me and when the demon moves and Speaks to us be they Christian or non-Christian all he's ever all that demon is doing is Speaking about some sort of desires that we have in our hearts anyway ask Eve That's what a demon does now. So I want to look at next I want to talk about the kind of the powers that a demon has now I want to be clear. There seems to be some sort of me pull this down. I don't think I need this anymore There seems to be some sort of rank to demons And so you'll see that one example of the rank is in Daniel chapter 13 I'm sorry 10 13 where he says This is where Daniel's praying says but the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for 21 days and behold Michael one of the chief princes came to me came to help me for I had been left there with the kings of Persia Well, what does that mean? Well, it seems it may indicate it may indicate that demons might actually have an actual rank Prince May have an actual rank or territory to where they might be over he goes on to talk about how but The prince your prince meaning that is there an angel assigned to each one of us There are some that believe so there's not a there are not a lot of passages to Speak on it one way or the other and so I'll just say possibly Possibly it's possible that there may be an actual angel assigned to us We do know though that the sheer number of angels that are out there Outnumber the number of demons that are out there now. What do they do? We do not know but remember originally The whole purpose of these spirits be they angels or fallen demons fallen angels Hebrews 1-14 says that they are ministering spirits in other words their their initial intent was to minister on behalf of In our case God in the demons case their other master. They still the same thing The same function just a different master and so it seems though these demons Maybe they are territorial or that could have been just at that time We do not know that if there's ever a place that there could be chaos It would be within the demon realm. I don't know again The Bible does not give a whole lot of information on demons and I think rightly so I think for a good reason Again, we're gonna find out that there is really no necessary need for that's kind of No need for me to say necessarily any same thing But there's no need for us to worry about what demons say what the devil says it doesn't really matter It didn't register because we're gonna find out what God says to do about any sort of activity Negative activity be it by man be by ourselves be it by a demon So we're gonna see that as well. So What powers to demon have well again the original purpose was in serving well in this case these demons their job Is to serve Satan's what a Satan's job he wants to thwart Obviously the word of God as a matter of fact We know about what happened in in the garden in Galatians Galatians in Genesis 3 He goes he did God say attacking what God actually said same thing has been happening ever since God has been attacking I mean the devil has been attacking God's work. What do you think demons do? That's why Paul says in 1st Timothy that in the latter time some not the church as some of these people have said Not the church, but some will give he to seducing spirits and then they will just fall prey to these doctrines of demons Which is why the Bible being at first place Having supremacy in your mind and heart is of the utmost importance. You need to rely on the Bible more than anything else More than anything else. So now We know that he attacks the word because what does Jesus say if we go to I'm about to hit the wrong one And I might end up hitting the wrong one guy. So I've got three of these pulled up. So I gotta make sure my thumbs in the right spot, but here in Luke chapter 8 Okay in Luke chapter 8 let's start in Verse 11, this is the parable of the soulers and look what Jesus says. He says now the parable is this We've covered this before the seed is the word of God those Beside the road are those who have heard now notice what he says those who have Heard the word But what happens? Then the devil comes and takes away the word from their heart takes away the word from where? From their heart. So is it in other words? It seems like according to his passage he can take away the word from their heart Now, this is not my explanation. This is Jesus's explanation He says then the devil comes or possibly a demon since the devil is not I'm a present One of his ministering servants a demon says he take away the word from your heart So that they will not believe and be saved now. This is where being a smart Christian helps We've covered this before Look over here to the to the right this Henna may Pistachio Sante's this is in order that not they become believing ones Remember we cover this whole issue of the believing ones believing and so When we see the Bible referred to us as Christians the Bible knows of no Christian who believed in the past tense one time The Bible knows no Christian that was like that the Bible knows of us as Christians as being as someone who is in a state of Continual believing we entered the state of continual believing one time one time inter believing and it goes forward Eight times often do we see this term being used of believers? Because the Bible wants us to know that salvation is for those that are believing the believing one So let's go back to the passage Satan didn't want you to be a believing one So he says he says that that he takes away the word in order that they may not be believing 13 those on the rocky soils are those who when they hear Receive the word with joy But or and they have no firm route They received the word but wow yippy yippy joy joy, but Felt good felt emotional and likely at that moment they felt good about it They they probably thought they were serious But look what it says and in time of temptation fall away Where they were now when someone comes back and says it's possible for a Christian to fall away We see example of someone falling away Jesus is explaining the falling away. Is this person in Luke 8? That he's describing here was this person ever Christian no Verse 14 the seed which fell among the thorns These are the ones who have heard and as they go on their way They're choked with the words and riches and pleasures of this life and bring no fruit to maturity So we believe that those actual believers those the believing ones will actually bring fruit They don't verse 15, but the seed that on that fell on good soil These are the ones who have heard the word in an honest and good heart and hold it fast and bear fruit. So He says though what the devil is going to try to do is take away the word from their heart How does he do so now it says they believed in verse 13? There are those that believe but they believe temporarily. How can the devil take away the word? Well, first of all It's an issue of their heart The devil cannot take away because if he could if he could take away the word From all of the people like he did the first few examples He would but the people who who have good hearts and the good hearts aren't a byproduct of us Getting our hearts in shape exercising them softening up. No, that's a that's a work of God The devil can't take the word from their heart Everything but what he is what if one of his MO's is to attack the word? Whenever you see someone attacking the word or whenever you see someone making it up and not relying on a word If someone is going to tell you the truth about something and they do not rely on the word run away. I Can't tell you Run away If they say and they do say well, the Bible doesn't say you can't we'll deal with those with those complaints in just a little bit We'll deal with those complaints just a little bit, but they're they're just they're foolish their sophomore Rebuttals to say well, the Bible did not say that you in this case the Bible didn't say a Christian can't Have a demon well the Bible didn't say a Christian can have a demon if we're gonna play that game But oh by the way, we're gonna deal with that in a second as well exactly run for us run What else they do? One can demons cause sickness Hmm Interesting can demons cause Sickness well, we see some sickness being attributed to demonic activity During the days that Jesus walked. Let's go back to it. I was hit the wrong button This is mark 917 and one of the crowd answered him teacher I brought you my son possessed with the spirit which makes him moot mute I'm sorry, and whenever it seizes him it slams him to the ground and he foams at the mouth and grinds these so he's mute Because of this demon and there are other passages Matthew 12 22 Luke 13 11 this woman bent over When you look at and there's only a few a few passages in the Bible where someone has some sort of ailment That seems to be attached to a demon Why why is that? Why is that? well couple of things Jesus when he's dealing with the young man who's born blind As a matter of fact 90 plus percent of the time that the Bible speaks about someone being sick or ill has nothing to do with a demon and Then some of the and the sicknesses that we see Jesus healing of the majority of these sicknesses These are sicknesses that seem to be physical Whereas the sicknesses or the healings that are they need to be brought about because of some sort of demonic influence These are the kind of sicknesses such as this boy being mute Seems be something of the mind Triggered by the mind. Well, that makes sense. That makes perfect. Since as a matter of fact because if this demonic spirit Influences a person to stop talking back it happened Because what's control it's not it's nothing physical in other words. We don't see a demon in the body. I mean in the Bible Causing a person to have cancer We don't see a demon a demonized person Having leprosy We don't see a demonized person being as far as I can think of One of them being paralyzed We don't see a demonized person having a withered hand or with me So what we do see though are where they affect them physically is something that's controlled by the mind Are you with me? Now is that is that Totally is it possible that I'm wrong could be but it just seems from as I look at the scriptures and those that are Afflicted physically because of or it's attached to a demon It seems to be something that might be mental And of course we know there are people who have what was called psychosomatic Where the mind has caused them to fill a certain way and they are there literally been people who have had back ailments This is funny guys, but it's true back ailments where the doctor has just simply just laid them straight Didn't do any kind of adjusting or anything like that just laid them straight cause them to relax and they stood up straight Because often times let's be let's be honest also often times Michael. Thank you for super chat often times Mentally we can cause stress on ourselves that can also harm us physically So so it could also be that the demonic influence Has put us a level of stress on the body because it doesn't say one way or the other that has put a level Just somebody that can also cause the person to have a physical reaction It's kind of like if you see something and then what you saw some folks see blood and then it may cause a physical reaction But apparently though that at least at that time that the demons can cause sickness But remember when Jesus sees a person Who's blind he said well what caused them and and they ran through the litany of things that could it be She said no, this is me. This is me. I did this and I did this for the sake of me being glorified Now I want to look at a passage Let's see, let's put this on the screen. Make sure this is the right one. Is this it? No Acts let's go to acts acts eight. I want to point out something Now this is Philip down in Samaria. Let's look what Philip was encountering first for Therefore those who had been scattered went about preaching the word Philip Goes down to Samaria to the city of Samaria and began proclaiming Christ to them The crowds with one accord were giving attention to what was said by Philip as they heard and saw the signs Which he was performing for in the case of many who had unclean spirits They were coming out of them shouting with a loud voice and many who had been paralyzed and lame were healed So notice these people that were paralyzed and lame. This wasn't a demon. They were just paralyzed and lame So it separates those who were who had unclean spirits and then those folks who were paralyzed or lame In Luke 9 1 Oh, I'm sorry. I did again. I did it again. I did it again. I put on the screen and have the wrong passage up I'm sorry. I'm sorry guys Pushed the wrong one you all forget me But these people verse 70 in many cases who had unclean spirits They were coming out of them shouting with a loud voice and many who had been paralyzed and lame So notice the differentiation between Both demons and those who are sick and then if we go to Luke 9 1 We'll see and he called the 12 together and gave them power and authority over all the demons and To heal so demons and to heal so it seems to be again a differentiation Now I'm gonna come back and just a little bit and deal with This issue of the authority that we as believers have over demons because I want you guys to see this because someone Say wait a second if because let's say demons can cause sickness. I Want y'all think about this for a second if demons can cause Sickness if a person can be demonized and that can cause sickness The question is why didn't why don't we see a lot? I'm looking for something. I can't find it That's what I get that's that's what I get. Oh, there it is But if a demon can can can cause a person to be sick, thank you chest champ I Listen, I can't tell you I Want I want to try to be thorough for this I really did I wanted to make sure that I covered the different Different areas cover all my bases and so forth. I want to be able to say, okay This was thoughtful by the way guys if you haven't if you don't know This is not going to be a 30 minute or an hour long We got about another hour ago, but we're gonna cover everything and I may come back and break up in parts I don't know but I do I do want to be thorough in in this regard, okay? Let's move this back out of the way So he gives them power over Unclean spirits as well as the ability to heal so they have that so There's that distinction between the two Make sure that you understand that the overwhelming majority of sicknesses in the Bible Were not as a result of demons Make sure you know that because I don't because again if demons could do that They would do it now wouldn't they if demons had the same power same ability things they do now Why would they would do it? They would we would all dive can every Christian would have cancer Every Christian would have a heart attack every Christian would have all these different ailments All of us would be bent over all of us would would have even the if the demon could mean would have an issue of blood Kind of bad to think about I guess now I guess nowadays in this world They say some men do have have that so That's demonic though. I'll say that though. So that's one thing that demon can do third. How many times does the Bible now? This is interesting guys Have you guys heard when people say that the number one thing that Jesus did is Deliverance to cast demons out when I again when we say deliverance We're we're using deliverance the way others use it as in casting demons out Have you all heard people say that the the the movie that's coming out? The number one thing that Jesus did was to was delivers a cast out demons. We keep hearing that Isn't it interesting to find out how many times that Jesus actually cast a demon out? How many times do you think the Bible records? Jesus as casting a demon out Since it's the number one thing that Jesus did Would you all say less than 10? More than 10 but less than 20 More than 20 but less than 30 More than 30 It's the number one thing it remember It's the number one thing that Jesus did so it should be all throughout the Bible This is why you might want to avoid listening to some of the people who speak 12 times does Jesus does the Bible record Jesus casting demons out 12 times here. They are We see it now. We're gonna we're not gonna put them on the screen guys because just for the sake of time but Mark One but now if you see a passage here guys where we might see multiple passages beside that That's because oftentimes, you know in the in the gospels one writer might say the same thing that another does So that's the reason why so 12 times Jesus casting out many here's one mark 1 32 34 same as recorded in mark. I mean Matthew 8 16 17 The people in Galilee in mark 1 39 the manic a Pernum synagogue in in mark 1 21 to 28 Luke same 431 a manic a Pernum Matthew 9 32 Uh-oh all throughout we see people in the end could Pernum Luke 6 8 17 Verse 7. I'm number 7 a Gentile woman's daughter Matthew 15 21 Mary Magdalene and the other women Luke 8 2 People have to see a Galilee mark 3 10 two men at Gerega Sene's or Excuse me in Matthew 8 28 a man's son accessory of Philippi Matthew 16 13 and then a couple woman in Luke 13 10 So those are the 12 times that Jesus casts out demon Please do not ever say or listen to someone say that it was his number one ministry Jesus did a lot more a lot often So That didn't need to be brought up Was him casting demons out was that important sure especially if you had a demon especially if you had a demon I'm not minimizing that fact, but I'm trying to debunk a falsehood We should not say what the Bible does say what wouldn't be a good idea Maybe it's just me But wouldn't be a good idea if we said what the Bible said and did not say that what the Bible did not say And so thank you for the super sticker. I appreciate that We should say what he what he says and be silent when he's silent are there some times that we can kind of Think some things out kind of wonder sure, but if we don't fully know then say I don't know I just said earlier. I just said earlier in regards to Something happening in the Old Testament evil spirits. I'm not totally sure not totally sure and Somebody might take this route some I'm gonna take this route when it comes this issue of evil spirits in the Old Testament I don't know because there's just a not just just not a lot of information a lot of scriptures And then I think there's a reason why this is me partificating as well. I don't think there's a need for us to cover What demons say and do or what the devil says and do? Now I think I'm right in that regard to think that it's not necessary because God doesn't think so as well At least he didn't think so enough to where he put it in the Bible We don't have we don't have a lot of details about what demons do we get some information Now we do see the result of either them or sin Both of us bad and so as long as we know what to reject. We're good We're gonna figure out how to deal with whatever this bad is Demonization or if it's the flesh, we're gonna look at that in just a little bit But so how many times that does the Bible record Jesus casting and demon out? only 12 times For those just to put it back on the screen for you guys to see again Those are 12 times and so if you're so if you want to do a screenshot be my guest now the next thing is What powers do we? Have over demons Interesting, huh? What powers do we have over demons? Well? Before I go to that I want to talk about You know how sometimes they will say that we have that someone has a spirit of this a spirit of that a demon of this a Demon of that Where does that come from? Well, they take that from the Old Testament From a couple passages one of them is Isaiah 1914 let's go to Isaiah 1914 because the Lord has mixed within her a spirit of distortion now This spirit of distortion is this demonic or is this God Moving in such a way don't know we do not know as a matter of fact. Let's pull up a couple of other pastors Let's go to You know it's saying Isaiah. I'll do my type in here. I want to Isaiah what is it 29 and 10? 29 and 10 Oops 29 10 For the Lord has poured over you a spirit of deep sleep well, I did hear a person say that a person who has a demon of narcolepsy a Demon of sleep a spirit of oversleeping Well, so the Bible says in verse 10 that the Lord has poured over you a spirit of deep sleep He has shut now. Is that a demonic spirit? No, that's not a demonic spirit That's just God caused him to go to sleep. He did the same thing with Abram in Genesis 15 when he's making this Covenant with Abram. He causes him to go to sleep. Are you with me? Let's see. Is there a how about Hosea? Let's do a couple in Jose as well Hosea for 412 412 Hosea 412 My people consult their wooden idol and their and their diviners one informs them for a spirit of Harlotry has led them astray Question is this a spirit given upon them or is this just who they are? Didn't say this could just very well be who they are That's just them. That's just there. No, you know a spirit of knuckle cracking a demon of knuckle cracking so now is it possible that A demon could Do these things can afflict us physically or cause us to have a spirit of such-and-such a spirit of sneezing a hiccup spirit a spirit of head scratching a Spirit of eyeball squinting a Spirit of happy Is it possible that a demon can do that? Is it possible? Well, again, the question is do we have power over the demons I? Think we do I think we do as a matter of fact, let's go to a passage Let's go to pull up in in the Greek I think a matter of fact it still is in Luke and Luke. Let's go to Luke 10 and This passage gets misunderstood often Often by the other side. This is Luke 10 This is where Jesus is going to send people out send some may say 70 or 72 and They'll say that see it will say that Jesus has only ever Instructed his apostles to go and cast. He's only given his apostles the ability or his disciples to Cast out demons and they'll say well, what about this the 70 that he sends out in Luke 10? Let's go to that passage for a second and see it says now after this the Lord appointed 70 others and sent them in pairs a Head of him to every city where where he himself was going to come And he was saying to them the harvest is plentiful, but the labors are few by the way share the gospel with somebody guys Therefore beseech the Lord of the harvest to send out labors into his harvest. That's what they're doing What are these guys? What are they going to do guys? What is Jesus sending them out to do? Hmm, if only we could read well It just told us to go out and reach these people The harvest is plentiful, but the labors are few verse So he says go behold I send you out as lambs in the midst of wolves carry no money No money belt no bag no shoes and greet no one on the way Whatever house you enter first say peace be to this house if a man if a man of pieces there your peace will rest on him But if not it will return to you stay in the house eating and drinking What they give you for the labor is worthy of his wages. Do not keep moving from house to house Whatever city you will whatever city you enter and they receive you eat what is set before you In other words, don't go try to make it rich off these people. Don't go.  They're healing and they're preaching the kingdom of God that's come near you But whatever city you enter and they do not receive you go out into this into a street and say even the dust of your city Which clings to our feet we wipe off in protest against you yet Be sure of this that the kingdom of God has come near you has come near I say to you it will be more tolerable in that day for Sodom than that city So as we look upon them did any of them cast demons out? Did he said they were going to cast demons out? No, it did not. No, he did not now If we drop down and cover this again when they come back Let's see what happens in verse 17. He says the 70 return with with joy saying Lord notice what he says Even the demons are subject to us in your name And he said to them I was watching Satan fall from heaven like light and behold I have given you authority to tread on the serpents and on scorpions and over all the power of the enemy and Nothing will injure you Nevertheless do not rejoice in this that the spirits are subject to you But rejoice that your names are recorded in heaven. Huh? I want you to think about something What did Jesus give them power to do Well, he tells them they could heal and to preach the gospel They came back and said man look Jesus. It's amazing even the demons are subject to us Why would they say that? Why why would they say even the demons are subject to us? If Jesus had sent them out and told them to go cast out demons think about that for a second Well one it still doesn't even say that they cast out demons You just said that the demons are subject the demons were subject to us in your name Which is going to bring us the next point in just a second, but if a person Could be attacked by a demon if these people going out could be attacked by a demon Could be vexed by a demon wouldn't that thwart their ministry? if someone who is demonically Influenced shows up If if a person who in this case in that day had a demon shows up Wouldn't that hinder what they're trying to do sure What could they do now we still don't know if they actually cast a demon out We just don't know maybe they did maybe they did But notice notice though the person the people they were They were shocked in a pleasant way like wow even the demons Jesus How come you didn't tell us that that let's let's just say they could cast out demons Jesus How come you didn't tell us that? Because they weren't surprised about anything else They were shocked that even the demons were subject to us in your name What were they doing in his name? People in the deliverance ministry hear this they were out sharing the gospel in his name They were under so what does it mean to be to be in his name? under the power under the influence in Concerned with under the authority walking in the authority and he gave them that as a matter of fact even more So with them that where they went to they could heal people and so forth He did give them that that authority. We didn't give us he didn't give us that We don't see that we all have that that authority as well Someone may go to mark 16, but that's not again I think that if that does if that passage does belong if the longer any of more the The second longest ending of mark does belong and I think he's still writing about the apostles because it literally happened with The apostles and we don't see it happening with anyone else But that but the point is though these folks are shocked that demons are now subject to them But now what because what was the greatest point though? Jesus said don't be rejoicing in that That's not what you are rejoicing rejoice in the salvation that you have Rejoice in the fact that your names have been by the way past tense not even passing Perfect tense that your name have been in the past written in the book of life Rejoice in that rejoice in your salvation because what did you go to do go? also and share of the gospel and they're only they're only Subject to you not mean that you cast them out.  That's becoming less and less of an issue now because more and more of these guys are turning to the belief that a demon does or can Indwell a person Which makes our point if a demon can't dwell a person well Then we're gonna come to this conclusion this fight as to can he can a demon in dwell a Believer a person with the Holy Spirit But to show that demons do enter obviously we got a couple pastors such as Luke 830 and Jesus asked him What is your name and he said legion for many demons had looked entered him else ice el fame Isil fame which means they entered they went into him and then we also I won't cover all this in the past but Luke 22 3 mark 5 13 where the demon has entered inside them Okay, and so clearly in this case a demon now The question is going to be when we say enter does it also mean that is it a literal entering? Could be Could be But is it also kind of anthropomorphic or metaphoric? Meaning can you feel somebody's head with fanciful dreams? Can you feel somebody's heart with? Whatever it's not really true that you're filling it with it But it's kind of idiomatic to say that this is what's happening to those people. Are you with me? so but in this case it seems as though that Demon enters but doesn't mean enter or influence That part we're not totally sure but first one say they the demon literally enters I don't have a problem with that pointed at all I don't have a problem with a with a person saying that the demon literally entered them Because every time that we see this it's still going to be a person who does not have the Holy Spirit So I'm not I'm not bothered. I'm not I'm not convinced at least so far Another common statement is that can a person? If they are dealing with a demon, can they send that demon to the pit or to the abyss? Is that possible? Well No There's one time in the Bible where we see that that that especially Satan is going to be bad That's the thousand years, but then we see What about what you say? What about Luke 11 25? Okay, let's go to Luke's 11 25 really briefly and The reason for that is because I'm are I'm in Luke. So let's go to 11 25 And when it comes he finds his swept and oh you mean when let's read the whole thing in context When the unclean spirit goes out of a man it passes through waterless places seeking rest and not finding any It says I will return to my house from which I came and when it comes and it finds its swept and Put in order then it goes and takes along seven other spirits more evil than itself And they go in and live there and the last state of the man becomes worse than the first state now is The thing is though and I'm pretty sure that's not the point to try to make though But this passage that doesn't really do one one thing one way or the other in terms of what we're trying to get out of this because Still not talking about an unbeliever still not talking about a person with Holy Spirit We don't talk about a person with Holy Spirit Why because the Holy Spirit has not come to and dwell on anyone right now at this point are you with me? So let's go to the past. I do want to go to where someone can say that we can go to the pit By the way, was that past actually on the screen? I hope it was But let's go to Matthew 829 Look what's happening here This is when this possessed man comes out and meets Jesus and they cried to him saying what business Do we have with each other son of God? Have you come here to torment us? He says have you Jesus come here to torment us before our time? Kairu the appointed time for us What a pointed time there's going to be an appointed time when these demons are going to be Put or be bound for judgment forever Are with me? So we don't have to worry about it. It'd be nice honestly, it would be wonderful if People could cast demons out and every time they cast demons out They would cast those demons to the pit that would be wonderful Matter of fact, we would pay you to do so Listen, we would you talk about a go fund me account that would break records if you guys could really or anyone could really cast out demons and send Demons to the abyss send demons to the pit That would be wonderful. The problem is though as you guys seem to do so There seems to be a market increase in demonic activity Which tells us one or two things If we don't need demonic activity for or demons for demonic activity to be here If we don't need demons for the level of debauchery and violence and sex and crime If we don't need them then why are we talking about casting demons out in the first place? But if demons are the one that are behind it and you and you and people are vanquishing them to the pit or to the abyss Why do we have more? I did a video some time ago and I asked I got a question. Why then do we have? Why don't we have less demonic activity? Why do we have more demonic activity? Why is that? Well, of course, that's not a good question But since we don't send demons to the pit, but we keep hearing people saying that we send you to the pit Send you to the abyss. Why is that because they cannot go at this point in time? They are here for a reason if God wanted them in the pit, you know what God would have done sent them to the pit He did not tell Peter or the apostles nor do they tell any of us Don't worry. We will send them to the pit. No, he says that Satan desires to sift you like wheat What Jesus say in response? I've cast those demons away. No, he says I've prayed for you Same thing when Peter says in 1 Peter 5 8 and we'll come to this passage a little later He says Satan walks around like a lion seeking whom he may devour He did not say though But vanquish him or them the demons to the pit that never comes up and we'll come to that part in just a little bit No, no one can send a demon to the abyss and send a demon to the pit Okay now Can demons be cast out? Can a person be delivered from demonic activity? Let's all say in concert. Yes, we believe that demons can be delivered from people We just don't believe that demons can be delivered from a Christian because Christians have no need for Deliverance why because the Hebrew word for deliverance is your shield, which is where we get the what we get Jesus Hebrew name. Yes, sure. Is it literally the same word or the Greek word? So Tyria, which means salvation? So that's what true deliverance is but the deliverance they're speaking out There is no need of that for Christians because they have already been delivered But people who are not Christians is there a way for them to be delivered? Yes Yes, and I believe that those 70 elders or those 70 who went out by Jesus as they're sharing the gospel I believe they witnessed that I believe in doing so they witness people now. That's just me making a Guess I have no biblical basis say that and so you won't hear me teach that All I would teach though that they didn't know they were going to cast out demons or have any sort of influence over demons And they were shocked means that Jesus did not command them or send them out But I do believe that we as believers have even today Every last person in the chat every last person that will hear this myself Anyone that you know, that's a believer you have authority Dominion over demons God did even though they have power Like you've never seen before except in Christ We still have authority we are not subject to them. They are subject to us Because we are literally walking in his name are you with me now continuing Do demons have the power now? This is also interesting the question is going to be Do demons have the power to make you do something? Can they make you fall can they make you scream? Can do demons have that kind of power? Well, the question is going to be then if they have the kind of power to make you do anything Well, then do angels also have the power to make you do anything? But even more to the point not do the angels have the power to make you do anything Does the Holy Spirit have the power to make you do anything? well The Bible has told us and we've covered this before that he has the power to make you keep his commands He has the power to make you obey and abide in his teachings We've covered that because he said that's what's going to happen when you receive the Holy Spirit in you and that you will Testify and that you will hear him and that you will follow him and that a strange voice Jesus says a strange voice that his sheep us will not follow as a matter of fact a strange voice We won't listen to but even more to the point in John 10 a strange voice That includes a demonic voice ladies and gentlemen a demonic voice We will turn and run away from are you guys with me? So it could not be You can build an excellent case an excellent legal case to show that a person with the Holy Spirit Cannot Hear a demon so they cannot hear a demon and they will run from the demon How then do we have a demon? What does a demon do? absolutely nothing Absolutely nothing as a matter of fact and this also comes along with because the fact that demons Attack of the word of God and people just don't hear which I think is so important for you to study and hear the word of God So now again, how do they operate? They operate by attacking the word they operate by twisting the word and they also Appeal the power they have the power that a demon is going to do what he's going to resort resort to is Twisting and thwarting the word of God as best they can But then what they're always going to do in doing so and how they do so Notice this. I want you guys notice this Have you guys ever noticed I haven't seen this yet. I haven't seen it once where somebody actually demonically infused twist the scripture and The scriptures were were not twisted to benefit them pridefully lustfully Demons will have a scripture the devil wants the scriptures twisted in such a way to where it appeals to your pride Your lust what you want Again the very first time that we hear him speak and see him move He attacks the word of God and he does so and he's victorious because of the person's Lust or desire for the thing in this case if the Bible says because the fruit was Desirous to her eyes then she did She literally she literally spoke back what God said She literally spoke it back But because she had this desire and she's got Satan.  Not really So what happens? So what happens? She does that? again There's a lot of things that you could probably come and try to tempt me with you could tempt me You can come to me and tempt me with a lot of things By the way, someone said well, they say well, how then does Satan actually affect actual believers? How does he? Try to thwart us. How does he mess with Christians? Guys, let me just say this. I think this is one of the worst Questions ever in the history of mankind if a Christian can be cannot be Dementedly intact, which is why we're gonna have this conversation with the other side if a Christian cannot have a demon Can I be demonized? Well, how can they be afflicted? How can they be persecuted? How can they have these problems? Let me drink my coffee while you guys in the chat think about this for a second I want y'all if a Christian cannot have because is it true? Is it true that a demon The devil has designs on Christians or does he only attack non Christians? You all would agree that he attacks non Christian and Christian both you all agree with that, right? He has designs on attacking Christians and non Christians. I mean what fun is it? What's the use of being a demon if you can't go after and mess with a Christian? I Know before I was saved one of my best targets was a Christian Pick it on them pick on them about the word messing with them That was my had fun with that so he wants to attack both But if we say though that we have dominion over them, they're subject to us and we cannot have a demon well Then how does he do so? How could it happen? How could it work?  Amen? If you don't amen, I'll amen myself That being said, how can a demon mess with us? How can a demon influence us? How can a demon get any sort of victory in the life of a Christian? Can it happen? Can demons ever get victory in the life of a Christian? Think about that for a second guys. Can a demon ever get victory in the life of a Christian? Is it possible? Yes Yes, a demon can have some victories. Yes demon can do some things. Yes demons can yes Yes But wait a minute Corey. How is that possible if we cannot be if we cannot be? demonized if we cannot be oppressed if we cannot be possessed Well, it could be we allow it moment. That's one way, but can I tell you the greatest way? Can I tell you the greatest way that deep wait wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute You just threw me out somebody says coffee stinks Ken you're more can you almost got banned? Can y'all you almost got banned there Kim, but because of the love of the Lord I will forgive you But how how could that be? Yes, we give we give place and we're gonna look at what the what that past me because I've heard someone use this top Host in the incorrect space and in incorrect way, but how can it happen? Someone says they can ask permission from God to mess with you. Well, let me matter of fact That's a good point brand study channel That's a good point, but let me just say this about any demonic activity Any and all demonic activity that happens be with a believer or unbeliever anything that happens They have to already get permission from who? from God If a person has some sort of physical ailment if we believe that they can cause physical ailments to that degree It still has to come from God Only God can allow it to happen believer or non-believer. So whatever demons do they do it at the approval of God It's still his world The earth is the Lord's and the fullness therein everything that belongs on this planet belongs to him Including the devil. He's a devil, but he's God's devil He is subject to God and if God wants to vanquish him today He could if God wants to put a gentle loving spirit in the devil he could do so Now he's not wish he would but he's not Lord. Would you please make the devil nice you your little kids pray that prayer Make the devil behave. He's not gonna do that So yeah, yeah, they always have to seek permission, but apparently they seem to have already gotten permission How can a demon? Afflict or mess with or bother or vex a Christian Guys, this is so simple. That's so easy if I ask you guys How many people in the world are Christian?  So now you go to work your boss is Possibly your boss is not a Christian some of you guys are gonna say yeah My boss ain't a Christian and your co-workers are not a Christian and they're doing all sorts of things and They're bothering you how many you guys come home from work Angry at the job or you go some other place come back and you're bothered Somebody in traffic does somebody who is not a believer does something and now you are affected Happens all the time That's why Paul makes the statement. Do not give place to the devil Don't let anger don't let the sun go down in your rap and do not give place to the devil What about Derek Prince Derek Prince um if Derek Prince came to if if I start if he's not alive today But if I if you were alive and I plan a church Derek Prince couldn't preach Derek Prince couldn't preach So what what do I think about Derek Prince that he couldn't preach but Most of what we deal with most of what we complain about most most of what we cry about most what we laugh about Is about what someone outside of us does? Think about that for a second most of what happens in our lives that brings us either joy or Sorrow is a result of what someone else did go as some of those unfortunate parents in Nashville May have been saved What did the devil do for them did he vexed them did he did he bother them sure he did was he in them? No, he was not his job. He didn't have to be in us There's seven billion other folks out there probably or more who aren't saved who have no problem vexing us Picking on us show him within chance you you Christian to believe in this fairy tale. Yeah, that happens all the time guys That Happens all the time Derek Prince's generational curses teaching there are no generational curses guys This is we just say I've covered I'll cover it again, but there are no generational curses According to Jeremiah that was done away according to Ziko that was done away with According to do the run according to Moses done away with But that being the case You don't need to be in field with a demon to have any sort of demonic activity influencing you or bothering you Think about that and it's going to get worse guys. It is going to get worse That's why he tells us how to behave. I'll get to that in just a little bit though, but There's a there's an issue that We all have a problem with not just me and that's his issue of when demons manifest because we don't see this really in the Bible We don't see it like that We oftentimes will see when someone goes to a particular church or from someone who's part of a demonic minister I mean deliverance ministry Freudian slip right there. I'm sorry We see at certain points of time in the service that these demons manifest But we never see that in the Bible. We never see demons on cue or a certain point time Manifesting we see the demons being a demon being demonized all the time, don't we? The Man with Legion Was a was demon possessed and was showing it all the time cutting himself and breaking chains and walking around like a madman With his clothes off and so forth. We we he was that before he ran up to Jesus I'm gonna deal with this passage about him going up to Jesus in a second because there's another issue is These people at these conferences the demons and the people will sign up for the conferences getting their cars and drive Pay good money sitting list to the praise and worship join in in the praise and worship read their Bible a man Circling stuff in their Bible will probably not circumcise of the Bible because they don't really open their Bibles in these places Amen everything and crying and so forth and at the very end they manifest But we don't see that I'll cover that just a little bit if I don't moderators Make sure make sure I do cover that because I want to make that point, but I Want to read a couple passages I want to read a make sure I'm on the right screen Yeah, where's it at? I've got so many of these passages up guys I've got so many of these passages up that there it is I got to figure out where I had them at now. I want to look at something That talks about us as Christians Matter of fact before I do let's go ahead and deal with this issue of demons manifesting and someone running up to Jesus or The demon possessed man legion run up to Jesus Because folks say well legion Goes up to Jesus so people what a demon can go to the preacher No, that is incorrect There are times when because I know I've heard a couple people answer me without saying me my name But it was time there's time. I just felt insulted where I said, why don't you give me credit for having read the Bible? I know a lot of people in this particular ministry don't do so, but give us credit for having read the Bible when Legion is Mining his own business demonizing himself away The Bible says that Jesus crossed over crossed the waters and came to where Legion was and as he gets off the boat as Jesus is walking Then Legion sees him a far off What is in Legion's mind? What are these demons thinking man? It's time to go. How do I know we just read that? He asked Jesus or they asked Jesus. Is it time for you to torment us now? Is it our time now? Now there are always if we think that they're in subjugation to us sure But certainly to Jesus. So when they see Jesus, what are they gonna run away? Where are you gonna go?  So what are they gonna do? He sees Jesus obviously Jesus knows he's there And so he runs and he bowed down. Oh son of God. Are you here to torment us? Is it our time? So no the demon was not trying to go find out. Where's Jesus at today? Okay, I see that Jesus. He's got an appointment to be over here Let me let me go ahead and sign up for the conference put my money in and let me go and go there That's not what that's not what Legion was doing Legion was there Jesus came to where Legion was And he sees him a far off now how far off we don't know 50 feet maybe 100 feet We don't know 100 yards. Don't know if it was a hundred yards. How far is a hundred yards? Not very far Not very far. And so what does he do the only the only thing he can do and that is going to That is going to show up in him I submit I submit You are Lord But guess what guess what the demons know already The demons know something more than apparently a lot of us don't know That is Jesus created them That is Jesus is Lord and where he is Because all they did was make our point when you say that the demon runs up to Jesus and submits and falls All you did was make our point because if the spirit lives in us What will the demon do inside of us if he's in us the same thing? He cannot be in us Because all the deal would do is bow down and subjugate himself all day long to the spirit in us anyway So you prove our point this demon cannot be in our presence in us because we've got something greater That's why John makes a statement greater is he that is in us in us then he the devil or demons That's in the world They're in the world not in us. What's in us? Who's in us the Holy Spirit? It's it really guys. It really is that simple and we know so because the Bible says that we are Sealed gives us his comfort. He's in 1st 1st and Ephesians 1 13 in him You also after listening to the message after listening hearing this message of truth the gospel your salvation having also believed By the word there by the way there's that word Pistrucantes which is believing remember all Christians are somebody who has entered into a state one time of Continual believing that's why the participle is used there. This is a present active Participle so this person who are believing was he say you were because of that you were is his past tense guys This is Pat This is the heiress tense past tense you were sealed. What does the word sealed mean? The word sealed is a protection not like I've been boxed in it's a protection Like when they sealed the the the tomb the Roman soldiers seal the tomb not that little seal It's gonna keep someone from opening the tomb No, it's just meant to say that if anyone messes with this seal you mess with Rome Well, it's a little bit different when you when you mess with the seal of God when you messing with those that are sealed You are literally messing with God Are you with me? Messing with Rome was one thing now you and this seal means that it is a it is a protection. So he says in him With the Holy Spirit of promise Who is given as a pledge of our inheritance with a view to the redemption of God's own possession to the praise of his glory? So that's us That is us and so we don't have to matter of fact there are there are these comforting passages that we need to look at Let's go to Romans 8. I'll just look at a couple. I won't look at all of them, but Romans 8 Let's go to Romans 8. He says but in all these things we are overwhelmingly or more than conquerors This word is hypernicoman. I told you the word Nikon is overcoming or victor. We are the overcoming ones but this is hyper like you've heard the term like When they talk about someone who's who's a Calvinist who's hyper Calvinistic not like super oh We are in this case hyper overcome a super overwhelming more than Overcomers so it says but in all things we are overwhelmingly conquered through him who loved us for I am convinced that neither death nor life Nor angels nor principalities or things present nor things to come nor powers that is though That's demonic nor height nor death nor any other created thing including them Will be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus out So guess what guys even if they are told they can't do that Thank you. I appreciate that. So we guys were protected. We are proud I want to give this cover this this passage though about where Do I have it up here? Do I I don't have it up here dog. That's okay. That's okay I'll type it in Ephesians is Ephesians Ephesians 4 27. I Want to cover this passage as well and I misspelled Ephesians Ephesians 4 27 therefore laying aside falsehood speak truth to each one of Your I'm sorry speak truth each one of you with his neighbor for we are members one of another Be angry, but do not sin Do not make sure I have this on the screen Okay, do not give the devil opportunity I'm sorry Do not let the sun go down on your on your anger and do not give the devil an opportunity now the word issues here I've heard someone say because this word here is tap on It's from the word tapas, which is what we get the word topos topos topography Ground This means don't give the devil a place in your heart an actual location where he can actually be don't don't give Inside you this location the devil is right here in me or he's right here Or he's right here. Don't give him any place in you to come into that is not what that means and you have to be a horrible exegete you Just take that statement and think that you're actually giving up property because that's not how that word is always used That word is also used it imagine metaphorically of an opportunity.  Yeah, that person ain't no good. Yeah, he's horrible. Give a piece of your mind Okay, now what we're doing is we're giving the opportunity for the devil to do some things either Because someone else is saying it to you you might he he might be whispering it to you as well He's not in you though. That's all in me That's all it takes a bad exegete to come up with that that you're actually giving the person literal Real estate in your body. That's just not that's just not good exe. It's not it's first Certainly not good greek grammar as well. That's just it's poor It's poor a couple more things Now I asked earlier and I'm sitting there fighting a sneeze Who's the person in the chat that said a demon of sneezing? I didn't have to sneeze all day Now I've got a sneeze. I'm fighting it though. I'm fighting it though. I rebuke this sneezing in Jesus name and then watch me turn around to sneeze in a second but Question and I asked this question because I've got a question. I want you guys to ask We're gonna deal with with with the other side. We're gonna do with the other side in just a second Saturn, thank you for the super sticker. I appreciate that so I When was I asked earlier? When was the first demon cast out of a person in the Bible? When was the first time a demon by a human being not by God was taken out of a human being? When was the first time it happened? What happened in the Gospels? It's very first time When was the last time it happened? The last time it happened was an axe Just before the founding of the church was complete every people group had received the Holy Spirit We do not have yes Jesus cast out the first demon. We do not have anybody That we can point to in the Bible who had the Holy Spirit who Had a demon and it was cast out one we don't find anyone that had a demon to we don't have one world was cast out There are some people they're gonna say that the demon was in certain people, but they never cast them out We'll cover that in just a second as well, but so far we've seen We've covered the scriptures. I've mentioned scriptures of what demons do But after hearing all of this is like well, so Tates have no control over me though If Jesus where it was true if if we want to say that what Jesus said about the 70 applies to us Well, then they are subject to us as well That's what I understand if the demons if we're saying that Jesus gave us power Which he which he didn't give us the same authority as he gave them But if I'm wrong, that's fine. If I'm wrong and the demons I mean and Jesus gave us the exact same authority that he gave his apostles and gave the 70 Well, then that means that the demons are subject to us but That being the case If we look at when the first and the last happen, it's in this confine And we see it's only happening with people who do not have the Holy Spirit now a Lot of the arguments to to account because most cases the arguments that we have The arguments that they have that we have and that they have against us Their arguments tend not to be scriptural or biblical. They tend to be more anecdotal they tend to be more, you know Their own analogies or clever ways of saying things which is fine, which is fine They don't they don't do anything. I think if you're gonna teach you ought to teach with the scriptures They'll say things like well, we disagree with them Because we don't do deliverance Well, a couple of things first of all First of all We do deliverance we do But we can settle all of this back and forth the differences disagreements and so forth if somebody if Anyone if a representative would actually sit down and say listen I disagree with you Corey or I disagree with you Bob or Frank or Mary or Sue. I disagree. Let's have a conversation I know someone last night who was on one of the other channels sitting there watching chats and was speaking and then got blocked Didn't say a disparaging word But just let me know afterwards. Hey, I got blocked look at my comments prior But I got blocked. I couldn't I couldn't put another comment in That's not good. And then you turn around and say that that the people on the other side are disparaging No, just disparaging on that side as well Can both sides be mean towards each other? Sure without question without question if I'm gonna ever be guilty or a call Or say that I'm being mean or insulting. I'd rather do it with the scriptures though. I'd rather be biblical in doing so But when you say that we don't do delivers that that actually is insulting to say that Because again, I'll put my experience and a lot of the men that I know and women who have actually done deliverance With people who were the worst of the worst not the folks at the church who come in who are ready to hear dealt But when people come to church, they'll aid me in anything. I've literally seen the person preach and he's hooping and he's saying cornbread he's saying Chitlins he's saying ham hocks and folks just in the organ is going and they're just shouting They are shouting So people at hoop and amen and shout to anything But give them the word because you'll be held responsible for that But if you give them the word just like we see in Luke 10 People receive the word and demons left the accusations that we're too theological We think things too much. Well, what kind of comment with that? What pastor says that and these are some of these are pastors are saying that what pastor says that we're too theological With all due respect that is an ignorant statement for anybody in ministry or teaching to say that Mona Thank you for the super chat a super sticker. Thank you. That's a silly thing to say. We are too theological We studied the Bible too much You know, I think that maybe you ought to or we all ought to study the Bible a little bit more Why do we spend so much time trying to prove it if we think it's fake if we think this is a fairy tale If we think it's wrong, why why would we spend so much time trying to disprove it? Well, number one, we're not spending too much time trying to try to disprove it, but anything that can hurt the body we come against Casting down everything that exalt itself against God. We are gonna spend all day long all week long forever doing it So if you're out there It's like telling the police. Why do you keep arresting me because you keep committing crime?  Well, because at the end of every heresy is a soul Now if you think what you're doing what you're saying if you are the if you different than what I'm saying if you disagree Well, then have a conversation. There's only one side that didn't want to have a conversation only one side. I Know I know I can I can write a law 10 20 30 people right now That would be willing to sit down with anyone that's involved in the deliverance ministry their deliverance ministry. I Know I'm already presumed on grata I'm gonna ask you guys do me a favor though. I'm gonna ask you guys do me a favor because They're not going to mention me They're not gonna at least listen to me. So I would like for you guys to be a favor I'll ask you that in just a little bit But one of the other things that I've brought up and they have responded Kind of in the back and forth without saying to me is that I've asked his question Why don't we ever see in the New Testament? So just ask the question when was the last demon cast out in the Bible? Why don't we see? After acts because again, we got this confine before the Gospels and after acts we never see anybody casting demons out So the question is is why why doesn't Paul who is literally training pastors? To plant churches and it's gonna deal with presumably deal with demonic people Why didn't he tell them to cast anybody any demons out? Why didn't he teach them? Why? And so thank you again for the super sticker. Why as a matter of fact recall in First Corinthians five is a five. I think it's five Where you've got this man who is sleeping with his father's wife Pretty demonic wouldn't you say? But Paul didn't say hey take that man and cast a demon out of him No, Paul says rather than casting a demon out of him cast his behind out of the church Matter of fact turn him over to the devil That's what you do Why? Well, because if the gospel won't work Then what else is there? Curious yours. Thank you for super chat. He says do you think do you think these people being healed are being driven by their flesh? And I live in Dallas. I would love to shake your hand. I will email you Do I are they being delivered by the being who by their flesh? Are you referring to the people that are actually? Supposedly being healed or delivered Well when you talk matter of fact is John Clash I think I saw John Clash in the in the chat if he's still here. I think it was I believe it was you John I believe it was you that had a an interview with a person who Faked being delivered and there are different videos on YouTube that you can find where people were went to deliverance ministry deliverance ministry and had a demon cast out a demon cast out and They come back and say well, I was just faking I was going along with it Or at the time it felt like it felt like something was happening, but it really wasn't It does happen again, it becomes it can be something psychological that's happening I I tell the story of a of a lady that knew where the church that we were at We did we did those sort of things deliverance ministries catching demons out and there was a lady who? I won't say I won't say her name Who? She had a demon cast out of her by all reports What I noticed though the funny thing was what I noticed was the way she was prior to and after It's not a big difference not a big difference at all now the day of you know She her hair was messed up sweating and so forth She was really into it and she just felt like because she had some things She had some bad things going on in her life Well, who doesn't There are some things that were going on in her life Maybe you all have been there where it just makes you want to holler make you want to scream and we see that a lot nowadays No real self-control no real self-control, which by the way is a result of having the spirit in you You have self-control without the spirit. You don't have some control makes you want to scream and That was her this rage this fit in her because of nothing was going right Now we don't even know that she was even safe. I still I still question that still question that but She thought that it was the right thing it felt like it they were they were in her face There was a lot of sweating and spitting and yelling and cheering and so forth And it just seemed like to her it seemed like the right thing to do and So she's like she just went to screaming yelling and then somebody pushed her she fell down and Then as she falls down she's just rolling all over the place because she feels like I didn't find on my own someone You know, maybe the spirit pushed me and so she's rolling around what have you because this this must be this must be the Lord exercise of demons and Every single thing that she was involved in prior to the to the exorcism was everything single thing that she was involved in after So sometimes it's just emotional That happens, but I've got some questions I've got a couple things and we're getting closer to the end They raised this point I'm gonna read I'm gonna read an article by this by this man Sam storms that now that now some of these guys are just in Love with I'm gonna have to come back and provide a link to his to his article He covers a lot just not increase You'll see the amount of ice and cheating that he did the amount of reading into his position that he puts into the text It's it's mind-blowing. It really is it really is but that being the case that being the case They'll say Corey or Anyone of us? Why doesn't the Bible? Why doesn't Paul or the the epistles or anyone else mentioned? Demons being cast out Since it's clearly the number one thing we're supposed to be doing Why why why is that not happening? Why hello Bailey, there's my daughter. Why? Why isn't that happening? Why doesn't why didn't they why didn't the Bible mention demons being cast out after Acts? Acts 19 as a matter of fact why? Their their response is a non-response Their response is deflecting. Well the word it would interest you to know that the word discipleship or Disciple is not mentioned after Jesus says so so There you go. Does that mean that we shouldn't disciple people because the word discipleship is not mentioned after the Gospels Hmm so now what must I do? Now I've got to instead of dealing with the point the issue I've got to now deal with this issue of Disciple not being mentioned does God want us to be his disciples does God want to want does God want us to follow after him To follow in his ways to keep his word to follow in him Does God want us to do that? Well, I think so but Sam Storm and others have said that the word disciple is not in the Bible after Acts So what do I do? Maybe now I can't make that point because it seems like it's a valid valid point to say that because Disciples not there that I can't push discipleship or anyone else just like The flip side is since People can't be demonized or there's no mention of it and there's no mention of casting out then I shouldn't bring it up I shouldn't use that as a point Very good and when that's what it is. It's deflection Bravo on your part Bravo Deliverance ministry people for throwing that out there Bravo while I drink my coffee. Let me let me think about that. He you threw us a curve ball How shall we deal with this passage or this and it's the truth? It's truth that the word disciple does not appear after the gospel So what do we do about that? Can we can we refute that? Is that a good point? No, it's not a good point No, it's not a good point at all Alicia, thank you for the super chat. I almost laughed when I saw that I almost laughed I Almost laughed now Jesus does say go and make disciples Though he did not ever say go and cast out demons to us, but that's at the point. I'm gonna make That is not the point that I'm going to make the point that I'm going to make is The word for and what do I have it at the word for disciple in the Greek is the word Mathetes That means to follow to be like to learn of are there words that are also used to say that after After the Gospels. Yes, there is so Deliverance ministry people do not use this argument again. Why let's go to 1st Corinthians chapter 11 Let's go to verse 1 First Corinthians which one is this first Corinthians chapter 11 verse 1. Is this the right one? Oh There it is this word right here some of your some of your version might say follow me as I follow Christ This one says be imitators of me as I am of Christ. This word right here is Mimete Both words mathetes and Mimete are derived from the same word is to follow to come after to imitate to be like Ruth Collins thing for the super chat. I appreciate that guys. I really do Let's go over some passages. I'll just rattle them off for you To show you that this that this that were literally told to follow after him or to imitate or to be like First Corinthians 416.  I exhort you Be followers of me First Corinthians 11 when we just covered that one Ephesians 5 1 therefore be imitators of God followers of God as beloved children First that's the one is 1 6 you also became imitators of us or follows of us and the Lord having received the word in much tribulation With joy of the Holy Spirit first that's all in 214 for you brethren become imitators of the church or follows the church of God and Christ Hebrews 612 so that you will not be sluggish, but follow those who through faith and practice inherent promise So should we follow sure as a matter of fact? Yes, Wendy be led by the spirit. We are told that We are told that This is why when I when I hear you guys say certain things, this is though Where's your reading? What you what they did was? They found an article from Sam storm Sam storm Sam storm has been out for a while There are a lot of things that Sam storm says that I agree with a lot things. He says I don't agree with I Think that what happens is you find some person went to a seminary and folks just latch on as though the overwhelming majority of folks Since you're promoting this person who was a seminary and also has a doctor degree You don't promote the other overwhelming majority of people who have seminary degrees and doctors and so forth who disagree with him You don't promote them Because what they say is totally different now I want to read this passage or this this this a portion of this letter from Sam storm. I think it's horrible What you're going to hear me read is I think it's just it's not a good look for him Let me read this curious George says when these demon slayers say I rebuke you is it a blasphemous claim Like in the book of june when well to rebuke somebody there's really more to it and we don't have the power to do so Remember Michael Have you ever met anybody that's as powerful as Michael other than Jesus? Have any you ever met anyone that is more powerful than Michael? No, you haven't. Oh, yeah What does Michael say he didn't even want to bring a reviling accusation against Satan he says the Lord Rebuke you the Lord review you John where was that you John that that had the guy that interviewed the guy who? Who said that he kind of faked his deliverance? I want to say that was you if not I'm maybe mistaken. I thought that was you anyway guys go check out John's channel as well, but I Want to read this This is horrible This okay, that was you okay good So y'all go check out his channel that I believe that they should be able to find that on on it on his channel You should see that anyway Let me read this is from this is an excerpt from one of the things that he that he's written about a person being Possessed now he's subscribed to the term being demonized Which is why these guys Because I'll listen guys these folks that that use the term demonize And I'm not trying to be ugly But they didn't come up. They didn't understand the greek Diva nyxmi from their reading their understanding of greek. They just did not But you know that's finally go to another source a more trusted source a more learned source. That's fine But do your own research, but look at what he says. Let me read this to you. He says The second argument is that this would be a spiritual impossibility in other words A christian being possessed by a demon. Here's what he said It would be our argument would be that it would be a spiritual impossibility This is what he says That is to say how can the holy spirit inhabit the same body with an unholy demon Our point is here. We've got the holy spirit and then you've got an unholy spirit there a demon there Because response is but again, we must remember that the holy spirit insert in a certain sense Inhabits everything and everyone in the universe even unbelievers Did you hear what he just said? Let me read that again. He says We must remember that the holy spirit in a certain sense inhabits Everything and everyone in the universe even unbelievers I'm gonna need some help guys Can someone find a passage even the hint of a passage of the holy spirit inhabiting non believers? That's exactly what it is saturn. That's pantheism God is not in all of this stuff. God is in my coffee cup Now I love my coffee cup Love my coffee cup, but I don't and as much I love this coffee and the coffee cup This me and this cup have been through a lot. I do not think the spirit or God is in here To say let me read it again And y'all remind me to provide a link later. I didn't do so But let me provide a link later for you all to read these articles from him He said we must remember that the holy spirit in a certain sense Inhabits everything and everyone in the universe even unbelievers Of course in the case of the latter. He does not indwell them in a saving or sanctifying way Again, no scripture. No scripture The holy spirit is after all, I'm the present. He dwells everywhere, but not in everything You may also recall from the book of Job that satan had access to the presence of God Indicating that the issue is not one of spatial proximity, but personal relationship Of course God in his presence can be before anything But is that This this is isogeating this whole passage this whole this whole writing is a result of isogeating text And trying to make it fit your conclusion The holy spirit What am I looking? I'm sorry. The spirit is after all. I'm sorry. You may also recall the book of joe Let's see where I left off it. Okay. The holy spirit and demons are in close proximity when outside the human body So why could they be in why could they not be in close proximity while inside one? Finally, the holy spirit indwells christians even though the latter Still has a sinful nature or a sinful flesh In other words, if the holy spirit can inhabit the same body with unholy human sin Why could he not inhabit the same body with an unholy demon? Sam storm just retire Sam storm, please retire Please retire Because you made and you mean that you believe you literally believe that The holy spirit and demons are in close proximity when outside So when when he says greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world He meant to say greater is he that's in you Along with the other thing that's also in you That's a problem sam storm But I'll let you guys go and read the rest of his acts the whole thing That's just not good. That's the and and they're relying you've got these guys that are relying on that Now I want to ask a question about the way demons are compared to the way demons Are today versus the way they are then Trin thank you so much for the super ticket I want to I want to ask you guys if you see a demon one the demons up today versus demons are back then today Demons take forever to come out then they take they don't take They came out quick lickety-split They didn't wait to manifest like they do today We they were never in a believer with the holy spirit at least as far as we can tell Never told or taught others to do it apostles never told anyone or taught anyone else to do so Why didn't the apostle teach anyone else to do it? And by the way It was never ever emphasized By there Why wouldn't paul or peter and you I mean as much as you guys emphasize deliverance Why didn't they emphasize it? Why didn't jesus emphasize it? Now again, you guys said that it was the number one thing that jesus did But if it was the number one thing that jesus did we only see him doing it 12 times We'll cover that again if it's the number one thing that jesus didn't even emphasize it So now I have a question for every deliverance ministry now For the most part they have all blocked me They've all blocked me So I want you guys do me a favor I want you guys to be a favor And then you could ask the other questions again Why why does the demon possession today look different than again? Because it takes a lot longer today than did then Demons didn't wait to manifest They just they were demon they were demonized all the time the boy who was who was convulsing He was throwing himself in the fire and so forth who was mute. He was mute before jesus showed up It was happening before he showed up The woman who was bound over she was bound over before she met jesus they were manifesting using your terms Before someone preached to them before the lord showed up Wayne marsh. Yes, I will We never see the apostles teaching anyone how to do it or telling anyone to do it They never emphasize that but that's not the question. I want you guys to ask them Now I want you guys if you could forward a question Or the video as well forward the video to them forward share the video with a friend But I got a question Got a question see On the contrary to what we see them doing every time And if you can see my notes, I capitalized. I use all caps moderators every time every time in the bible When we see the apostles dealing with you somebody correct me from wrong every time we see the apostles dealing with some sort of spiritual attack Be it physical be it mental emotional etc Every time what is the remedy? see me one thing if after acts We never see a person vexed or attacked spiritually or emotionally or mentally It'd be one thing if we never saw that then we would never have to worry about what the remedy is But we see it happening over and over and over again in the new testament after the death bearer resurrection in every case And I do mean every case without fail 100% of the time not like prophets today who'll give who'll be correct one out of 17 times or one out of a thousand times 100% of the time What was the solution for the apostles? My question is why is every pastor that tells us every pastor tells us nothing about demons or casting them out? We are told to do something different Can I can I go to the pastors? Where is this at? Where make sure I got the right one up? That's not the right one Here it is Here it is. I want to put some passages up guys These are the passages These are the things that we had to deal or that we're told to do in regards to dealing with any sort of demonized people Any demonic influence Any spiritual principalities This is what the apostles the bible tells us. This is their suggestion to us starting class is one 13 It says for he rescued us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved son and whom we have redemption the forgiveness of sin So this is a comforting passage for us. Let's see if there's some more He says that our affliction. He says paul says this in 2nd Corinthians 4 7 But we have this treasure in earth and vessel so that the so that the surpassing greatness of the power of I'm sorry So the surpassing greatness of the power will be of god and not from ourselves We are afflicted in every way but not crushed perplexed but not in despairing Persecuted but not forsaken struck down but not destroyed always caring about in the body the dying of jesus so that So that the life of jesus may be manifested in our body For we who live are constantly being delivered over to death For jesus sakes so that the life of jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh How come he didn't just say also if we're going to just cast demons out just get delivered because we're told by some that A lot of times we may need to get delivered more than once over and over again self-deliver Why didn't paul just bring it up just deliver yourself? Whatever you're dealing with but what else he says there's more Finally be strong in the lord and in the strength of his might and put on the full armor of god So that you may be able to what stand against the schemes of the devil where our struggle is not against flesh and blood So he's speaking of demonic activity But against rulers against powers against the world forces of this darkness Against the spiritual forces of wickedness in heavily places therefore Take up the full armor of god so that you may able to do what? To resist we're coming back to that word in a second Take up the whole armor of god so that you will be able to resist In the evil day having done everything. What does he say to do stand firm stand firm? Therefore having girded your loins with truth and having put on the breastplate of righteousness Having shied your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace in addition to all Taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish the flaming arrows of evil. Wait a second Taking up the shield of faith our faith Our faith Is how will extinguish the flaming arrows of the evil one? That's the devil guys And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the spirit Which is the word of god? And then look what he says to do after that with all prayer and petition pray at all times in the spirit And with this this interview be on alert with all perseverance and all petition for all the saints. Wait a second. That's it That that Paul you must be joking There's gotta be there's got to be more to it Oh, no, no, no post another there's more to it. Just not how they say it He says in james 4 7, you know the passage Matter of fact, let's go let's start here Therefore god is opposed to the proud but gives grace and humble verse 7 submit Therefore to god resists the devil and he will flee from you draw near to god and he will draw near to you So just resist him that that's it Paul why why would paul tell us to resist when he could have easily just told us to cast demons out But why do that now john says that greater is he you are from god little children and have overcome them Overcome what the world and the things of the world because greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world Okay, what about second that's alone in is 3 3 But the lord is faithful. He will strengthen and protect you from the evil one. Wait a minute Wait a minute paul shouldn't we just we don't need the lord to do anything for us.  But that's not what paul says The lord is faithful.  Don't No, no peter stop peter cast him out No peter says resist him stand firm in your oh your faith Okay, and you're believing knowing that the same experiences of suffering Are being accomplished by your brethren who are in the world. Wait a minute. So everybody else has suffered It's not wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Peter. It's not just me I'm not the only one who's going through peter. No peter says not just you your brothers are going through as well After you have suffered for a little while the god of all grace who called you You have the right one make sure you have the right one on Yeah After you have suffered for a little while the god of all grace who called you to his eternal glory in christ Will himself perfect confirm strengthen and establish you Hmm I'm not feeling what you're saying peter Let me go to james. I like what james has to say james probably going james is probably going to tell us to cast a demon out Let's see what james says. He says is anyone among you suffering And this word this greek word for suffering literally means suffering if you're going through it guys If anybody's going through being vexed whatever if anyone is suffering Hmm, who's anyone? Well, this word teach means any certain person whoever you might be If you're suffering Wait a minute. He must cast a demon. Wait a second. Hold up. Wait a minute Okay, wait a second That says pray Why not just cast him out Why why not just cast a demon james? I'll forget james james. You didn't even believe jesus was the christ beginning you and johnny come away You couldn't know talking about just just pray Is anyone cheerful? He has to sing praise anyone among you sick Okay, this is where you got to cast him out No, he says call for the elders of the church and they are to pray What's up with all this praying? jesus said to peter Satan designs us if you like wheat and what did jesus do? Oh, he didn't cast demons out either. He prayed. Hmm Peter said the same thing and now james is saying paulet must be something to prayer Must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him anointing him with oil in the name of the lord And the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who was sick. I'm not I'm not feeling what you guys are saying I'm not I'm not I'm not feeling this at all Yeah What's going on something's wrong with my bible Something is wrong with my bible because it's not telling me to cast it even out Because I was just told I was just told by dr. Sam storms That a demonic spirit and the holy spirit can be in the same place Even though even though paul in second Corinthians 6 says Or what harmony has christ What harmony has christ with belial by the way, this is the same term for uh, uh, bail or belial Or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever or what agreement has a temple of god with idols For we are the temple of god of the living god Just as god said I will dwell in them and walk among them and I will be their god and they to be my people Therefore come out from up from their midst and be separate says the lord and do not touch what is unclean Yeah, but sam storm says you can be in that somebody's body inside us lord The spirit can and have this unclean spirit in us as well Sam is not reading second Corinthians chapter 6. I don't think Something's wrong So my question is My question is It's kind of a different way of asking the question You guys can reach these people. I they won't speak with me The demon castin version. Yeah, olden the demon castin version You guys can reach them better than I can they won't they will not talk with me and I'm not going to be mean or belligerent I've never been mean or belligerent when alexander bragani came on I was not mean or belligerent when folks have called me a wolf came on. I didn't I wasn't mean We had a conversation so They won't speak with me. My question is to them or to anyone who casts out. Yeah, I'm a heritage I'm uh I read the by I snort books. That's what I've been told But my question is this seriously because it may not they won't answer And I think there's a reason why a lot of people who just are just vested in Their position what it does for them the money it brings in and so forth. They make a lot of money They they do I don't I'm not gonna put my hand in the man's pocket But I will put it on put it on their bible I'm gonna touch your bible So my question is this if they can find anywhere in the bible They won't so the question is really why when paul or peter or james Or john why When something of a spiritual nature is attacking people Why don't they tell them? To cast them out but instead why do they tell them to pray? To rely on their faith To get closer to god To resist the devil. Why do they tell them that? Instead of casting them out You can't go back. Well, why don't you tell them to be disciples? He did tell them to be disciples after he did tell them to follow after christ even after the gospels So I just want to know that again, they won't answer my questions. They'll watch the video I'm gonna find a way to actually get this video. I've got my other my other little smart christians account And I'll send it to them and see if they want to answer the question. They won't But Would I ever go to their thanks for super chat jonathan by the way, would I ever go to their church? No, I don't think so people say well, but that's your problem You've never been to one. Listen before these people were born Except for begone He's he's only a few years younger than me But the rest of them before they were born I was at a church doing that What do you so you've never experienced you've never seen it? Yes, I have Yes, I have and not one of the people that went through got delivered not one not one Matter of fact went back another week If it were if I were you and I could see where a person can be fully delivered Never have to worry about a demon never have to have a demon manifest because what we're really talking about a demon Demons manifesting can ask you guys in the in the chat a question. I just want to ask you guys a question Now if they came to Dallas, what would I do? Would I go see them? I probably would I probably would Matter of fact, I think I would I'm pretty sure if they came to Dallas, I would But let me ask you guys a question Here's my question Has anyone In the in the chats Has anyone in the chats every uh dog dogmatic ferocity? I actually will I actually will yes the answer That's yes, but has anyone in the chats there's four of you guys in the chats Have any you ever manifest have you have any of you all manifested in the last Day or two last week in the last month Have any people have any of you all manifested recently? I and there I'm not being funny. There's a reason why I'm asking that question I would love to know Has any have any of you guys Uh manifested and if so, I'd like to know how I see one lady says yes, I have how manifested how Um, I'm I think the over one majority is probably gonna say No, yeah, so far I'm getting those What I mean by manifest is what what you see when when you go to their deliverance ministry shows you see them just Yelling and cussing and frothing at the mouth. Have any you all manifested like that? Pastor g said no, you better not if your name is pastor if it's pastor g so The people miss grace says yes, okay, miss grace.  I don't believe in it And so therefore I won't do it But that has nothing to do with the people that watch this channel That has nothing to do with the subscribers of folks that frequent and watch it or go to different churches Or channels just like this It has nothing to do with them Let me give you an example. I'm gonna use a couple people. I'm gonna use jenay. I'm gonna use ruth. I'm gonna use jone Uh, I'm gonna use mona. I'm gonna use detox. I'm gonna use nila. I'm gonna use dutch I'm gonna use sheila chest champ now You could say I'm wrong For teaching against that You can say it all you want to now the people I named off. I see them here fairly regularly I see them here fairly regularly you deliverance ministry people or not the the guys that are Teaching deliverance ministry. This isn't for you This is for the people that watch those channels Go to their place their conferences and so forth that are constantly needing to get delivered. This is for you By their own admission They don't manifest Over there Those people do manifest over here. They do not What kind of hospital will you go to where you stay sick and keep repeating the same symptoms over and over? Why would you not go to a place and be healed the question?    King James version voice Wealth out be made whole do you want to be right? Do you want some peace and gave them the gospel? Why because the bible says that in 2nd Corinthians that we are a brand new creature and because of that He Jesus was in the world reconciling the world to himself And then what has he done given us the ministry of reconciliation The number one thing Jesus did and what he came to do Was to seek and say the law and also To fulfill the law bring about atonement to reconcile not only israel But also those Gentiles anyone who is believing to reconcile them to God That's the goal and if you are reconciled to God guess what you never know I have to worry about Being vexed by or oppressed by or possessed by or demonized by a demon Again the proof is in the pudding these people here by their own admins. It's not mean They admitted now Someone who believes in the demon ministry that that the only they have one thing they can say Well two things amen or calling these people in the chats a liar You would literally have to call these people a liar to disagree with what I'm saying They're not manifesting they're not manifesting now, but over there Manifesting all day My question is if I'm wrong Why why aren't they wrong? Why doesn't show up in their lives?  Nobody's getting set free Can I ask a question? Okay, let me ask a question The question I got asked and you all forgive me the way I'm saying it, but I I literally mean to say it this way I literally mean to say it this way I want you guys to pay attention I want you guys to pay attention No, no miss grace demons don't manifest when they become challenged demons do what demons do Demons flee when they hear the word when they're when they're faced with the actual authentic word Demons flee at the presence of a holy god. That's what demons do. They tremble in fear The bible says even demons believe and tremble the problem is a lot of us don't believe and therefore don't tremble We think we do which is why we keep frequent in these places these establishments and that's what they are They're establishments. They might have some drinks or what have you they are a step. They're company. They're a business And so demons have no fear of them Have no fear of them But my question is people keep going to these places. I've got one question and you might not like the way I put it You might not like the way I put it, but I'm gonna put it this way. Anyway, well, look first before I do So let me give you this passage So if the sun That's jesus Makes you free You will be free in deep You will be free in deep if the sun makes you free You will be free in deep guys. This is the plural future tense. This you will be free You will be free You will be this word right here As I say is to this is a future intense you it will happen This will happen if the sun makes you free You will be free and going back to this word on toast which means definitely Thoroughly and it is in a continual aspect It means this is going on and so if the sun has made you free You will be free if you say you have the the sun and you're not free Something's wrong. So my question is this for all of you people that want to keep frequenting These deliverance ministries and there are a bunch not just the ones that we know on youtube or what have you There's a bunch If you want to keep frequenting those ministries I say that here quotes if you want to keep going to them And never getting delivered.  It's got to be it's got to be something literally inhale that you want. What inhale do you want? What do you want out of hell that's so great that's got you going and Frequenting all the places all the establishments all the hangouts all the bars all the clubs where demons go to They say that we are a daycare for demons. Well, at least the demons over here are quiet The demons over here are tame. But over there you've got a hotel for demons You've got a you've got a drag stroll a drag show for demons. You got a strip club for demons.  When you can have heaven over here true deliverance