On the first time on the show, I mean legendary bassist, songwriter, guitarist, I guess co-founder of the Sex Pistols, studio musician, the list goes on and on, goes on and on Glenn Matlin. How are you doing today, sir? How are you doing? You all right, fella? Yeah. I'm okay. New album. Consequences coming to be released April 27th on Cooking Vinyl. That's right. Yes. Which is looming. We're nearly there. Yes. This year's flown by already. So there you go. There's actually been a single out called Head on the Stick, which is on YouTube. There's a video for it. You know, I've been on all the usual suspects and stuff. So people can check that out before I end. But yeah, I'm pretty pleased with the album. I think it's quite politically pertinent. It was kind of funny. I was in New York over the weekend doing a session with Clemberg and Richard Lloyd from television and Ivan Julian's studio for this movie that somebody's making about a guy who's born and brought up on the Bowery. And we recorded an old song called Bowery Boys. And then I did some press yesterday in New York, but it coincided with Trump's arraignment. So that was kind of interesting to be there. I mean, when you talk politically, okay, we could talk about the music and then we could talk about the theme. So for those people out there who don't understand the politics of the UK and I'm assuming you're referring to the UK politics. It may need it. It may need the UK, but not only. Yeah. But okay. But I mean, are we talking Brexit? What are we talking about? We're talking about Brexit. We're talking about the sort of ridiculous, as I say it anyway. I mean, I don't know what your politics are, but in Europe, particularly Britain, there's been a real lurch to the right.  I mean, before Brexit, we could just get on a ferry, get on a plane, get on the aerostyle, which is fantastic. With your guitar under your arm, you can go down and go and do a gig of the session and bump into somebody and stay there for as long as you like. We can't do that anymore. It's like a real, and I've been brought up as the best thing that's ever happened to me in England. And it's been wrenched away from us for no real reason that anybody can see, apart from protecting a whole bunch of politicians and fund managers, offshore banking businesses and the Cayman Islands.  It's crazy. You know what? It was a neighbor of mine who was doing some work. He's a pretty good stone mason. You know, there's people's front steps and all that. He's talking about it and he transpired, he voted for Brexit. And I said, well, you know, I'd never vote for anything that's going to bugger up anybody else's kind of career or work prospects. You kind of add for my whole industry and a whole bunch of other people who don't work into the night if I think, I said, what do you think when you go abroad? He said, oh, I've never been abroad. It's like, how on earth can we make a judgment call if you don't know? You know, I think what's wrong in this world is that people don't understand other people's cultures and how they go about that thing.  You know, they want to look after their families. They want to put some food on the table. They want to kind of let be out, let their head down without much, too much less or hindrance. Everybody's the same everywhere. But it's all about information, right? So let's just educate people in like 10 seconds here. Prior to Brexit, Britain was part of the European Union. Yeah. And being part of the European Union means free movement of labor and products, which means a band can play in London. Yeah. Today they can play in Paris with without showing passports without showing maybe there is a certain passport check, but more or less it's the free movement of goods and services. Yeah. And now that Brexit happened, it's like they broke off from the European Union. They're now in isolated territory and taxes and the free movement has stopped. Therefore, bands can no longer just easily tour throughout Europe. Correct? Yeah. I mean, you can still tour a bit, but it's, you know, now you've got to get involved with carnets for equipment, you know, and if you take the guitar and it breaks as guitars do and you pick up another one in a shop in Paris or something like that to see you through, you're broken your carnet, you know, and you're lovable for all these import duties and taxes and things. And the whole thing is just an absence. You know, it's all obstacles they've kind of put up, but it's not only that. They've used that as a way to enable the right wing in Britain to kind of tread over everybody. We've got one of the most corrupt governments we've ever had. They're brazen with their corruptness and they think they're better than everybody else and they're not there to serve the nation. They think they're, you know, a station above everybody and they can do what they like. Well, I think they're going to come right on stock or I'm certainly hope so. They look like they're going to get a complete hide at the next election. But they're trying to gerrymander the borders and people's voting rights and things. You know, now we've had about two cases of election fraud where people voted twice. And now for younger people, you have to show ID. Maybe it's not a good thing, but not everybody can get ID. Not everybody's got a driving license. Not everybody's got a passport. And you might be out of vote. And they're doing it deliberately because they know it's only the old codges and pensions and things which I am actually officially, really, who will vote for these right-wing nutcases. You know, it's not only England. I mean, it's been up in America. You know, and I've been fortunate that I've heard America a lot and many different levels, you know, in the front of the plane and in a van. You know, they did a tour eight, nine years ago. Again, Sylvain Sylvain, we did from the New York Dolls. We did the double-edder acoustic tour, which was a great last driving around. But in the middle of America, there's a whole load of trailer parts and they are not holiday homes.  He ain't going to do that. I love the thing that Obama said before the election where Trump got in. He said, do you think this guy is going to look out for you? Come on. They claim the electoral fraud as well, the same way you're claiming electoral fraud. Yeah. No, I'm saying every side claims electoral fraud. What I'm saying now is that they are doing deliberate official electoral fraud to stop people from voting. Gotcha. That's kind of what's happening. I'll tell you something. England is, UK is not alone. It happens worldwide too. Well, I know. Yeah. You know, I know that. And it's particularly effective. And that's led to me writing the songs that I wrote on my album. But, you know, the more I investigate it and I've become, you know, not that I haven't been that politically involved, but we can really do his vote. But now, you know, if there's a march, I'll go on it. And in fact, I went on one, which was Pride to Brexit, which I kind of sum up as Brexit, Brexit is dopey kind of march, but there was a million people on the march. It didn't get particularly reported.  Then he was playing Let's Stick Together by Brian Furry, you know, his version of the Came to Heat Song. And I thought, what a great place to have your song played while we are marching to Parliament Square to have a go at them and let people know what you think. So some of the songs I wrote, I had that in the back of my mind, you know. That's why I wrote that head on a stick and the consequences are coming, you know. You know what I love about the family of the Sex Pistols, we'll call it that family tree. Everyone's got an opinion. Everyone's got a very strong opinion. And that's good and that's healthy, right? I know even Johnny Rodney, he's on the other side, right? He's on the other side, yeah. He's on the other side. But I don't know if he is. I think he just says what he says just to kind of get his vote race in the paper, really. You know, I doubt his sincerity about all that. But by coming out on the other side, whether you vote for Trump or the Tories in England, we're not even sure we're as allowed to vote these days. And if you don't mean it, I think that's pretty poor. Let's talk about, okay, that's the political angle of the new album, which I find it very interesting. And then you have the music. Describe to people what they can expect. I mean, I know there's a few singles that were released, but what can they expect to hear? Well, you know, I was born in the 50s. First records I've ever put on were Jerry Lee Lewis on 78th and Elvis and stuff like that. You know, they really had something going for it. And in the early 60s, we had pirate radio in England, where bands like The Kinks and The Who and The R-Birds and The Early Stove and The Small Faces came through. And that was very impressive on me. And we also had a great TV show called Ready, Steady Go, where all of those bands would play live.  It was all fantastic. That's my kind of yardstick for writing the kind of three, three and a half minute rock song that's... And all those people and the songs I've mentioned that were hits, you know, they might bring down the government song, but there was some kind of small consequence about all of them. You know, they were worthwhile things to be singing about. And that's what I kind of allude to every time I write a song. You know, I think it's a good blueprint or a yardstick. Now, I don't want to sound old fashioned like that, but that's the kind of crux of the building and the song. But then also over the years, I've met and become friends with, worked with some fantastic musicians. You know, I got to say that I really enjoyed it. I found it very melodic. And, you know, it's always great to have a little bit of a meeting in there, which makes it even more enjoyable. It's got that... It's a little bit of she-bop. It's got a cover tune by Katie Lang and I think it's Ben Mink, who wrote the song... I knew I'd be talking to some of you Canadian type, so I thought... It's not only about what's in, it's not all... I think it's got a great sentiment. You know, there's something better that we can all yearn and long for. That's the song called Constant Graven. I didn't even realise when I did it that some of these few people at home it was kind of the big gay anthem kind of thing. Well, good for them, you know. That really both makes a good song.  In my last album, Good to Go, I actually did a cover of the Scott Walker song called Montague Tarris in Blue, which is a big, big ballad. And I just want to throw a curveball in and make people think that there's more than Blitzkirby-bop in life, you know. And there's nothing wrong with Blitzkirby-bop. But there's other stuff that's cool too. You know, and some of the tracks on the album there's a track on the album called All Speaking in Tongues, which, again, is like all these politicians talk so much nonsense. They might as well be speaking in Tongues. But musically, it could be something from Goat's Head Soup or Exile on Main Street. You know, it's got that kind of groove to it. But my version of it, you know, I don't want to sound exactly like somebody else. I want to try and put something newer forward in my own kind of, you know, within the realms and the parameters of what I do, but you can allude to things. And as long as it doesn't sound like a prestige, it's fine. You know, it's amazing. Like, I'm listening to this album and I commend you on it. I think it's really enjoyable. It's got a nice... Thank you. It's all about the melody. And I think you've always been that unsung hero of melody. Well, you know what? I'm glad you picked up on that. Because even songs, you know, like Anarchy in the UK and God Save the Queen, if John had had it totally his own way, I mean, he wrote the lyrics for those songs and they're good interest in lyrics and he delivers them great. But if there wasn't a good tune behind it, nobody would remember them.  And nobody would be talking about it these days. So in music, there's a yin and the yang of going about things. And I think what was good about pistols, we have most of those angles covered, you know, just through the personnel and the work in the family. Let me ask you this. Why was there never a second album ever?  You're a great songwriter, as we can see on this new album. You got a lot in you. Why didn't the Sex Pistols just come out with the second album? Because we be young, impetuous and full of beer and argue with each other too much. But that's the beauty of it. I know, but we don't even argue with each other. You know what the problem with the pistols was, is not everybody said what they thought to somebody else and not to the band guys themselves. We never spoke enough, really. You know, and I think a few more kind of real hum thing in conversations. It could have cleared the decks a bit more and we would have made the second album. But if you look at everybody else's output, you know, John's public image stuff and what I've done with Richard, I've done loads of things and Steve and Paul, you know, all in demand musicians and songwriters and contributors to things. We all had it in us the way of the second album, but I just don't think we were kind of, you know, Malcolm McLaren, you could almost say he was like the shepherd of the flock that was the band. I don't think it was a very good shepherd as far as that was concerned.  Like it must have been brought up. You have just so much, there is so much Thanks to all of you. Not really, yeah. Not really back then. But when we reformed in 1996, we spoke about that, and me, Steve, Paul, Rick and John wasn't, so there you go. And I think he was kind of frightened that all our stuff is up on a pedestal and if we did something that didn't come up to scratch, then it wouldn't kind of chip away at the pedestal. Not fair enough. But I see that as a challenge and we could have written some stuff. Yes. Had a guide then. If it was like it, then put it out, but we didn't even do that. But the tour was cool. You know what, I think there's enough quality music in all of you to combine to create that brilliant second album, but it is what it is. Well, thank you. I agree. But there you go. I think the time to do that has been gone now. Look, I don't know about that.  I didn't vote for Trump. Okay. Is that what it comes down to? Well, you couldn't have any ways. You couldn't have any ways. You know, if you was a stork, well, I'm not, you know, I'm not drinking Lenin, or Stalin, or Tarak Ali, or Jerry Reuben, the leader of the Yippies, I'm not like that. I'm going to metal it from the hour of road, write a few songs, but I do not understand on stage next to somebody with a MAGA hat on. It's not a good look. But thinking again, going back in time when you were Johnny on stage, wasn't it the same feeling anyways? Didn't you guys not butt heads anyways? We did. The same dynamic is there. That's what I'm trying to say. The same dynamic is there. And that was probably what made it exciting. There was a three-song kind of there. There was something about the fella that I didn't trust, and I think it's taken a long time to understand what that was all about. And in the past three years, I've realized what that was all about. Going to the documentary or the series, the series, not the documentary, I've watched it and I really enjoyed it. I don't know how much of it is true. I'm very disappointed and actually considering I had meetings with Danny Boll about it. I'm not disappointed that it came out. I'm not disappointed and I thought it was important that it went ahead because it was based on Steve's story and take on things. And he was the guy that formed the band, not John, Steve. John was the last one in the band. I thought it was important. But my portrayal, and not even by the actor but the script and particularly in my leaving the band, I left the band. I was not sacked. That whole episode where Steve sacked and it's just bollocks. It never happened. It was a rehearsal room that we had. There was all these people dancing and partying. It was about as big as your bathroom. What about the... It was probably about taking things and the whole thing with a big party and being on a double deck of bus with the beach stood up. It just never happened. It's best nonsense. What about when you were signing the record contract and you were sort of the only guy who was saying, wait a second. You were questioning everything. You were looking out for the financial security of the band. That probably did the many favours in the long run but somebody had to. I don't remember saying to John he said, I'm going to sign this. He said, but you've read it and if there's anything wrong with it it's your fault. So that is fact. You were the only one looking out for everyone from a financial perspective. Yeah. Somebody take 25% right off the top. It's a bit of a tall order. What else did you find? The Chrissie Hines and the Steve Jones relationship according to Chrissie Hines was completely exaggerating. I know Chrissie. She's my neighbour and I was talking about it. She slept with him once. There was no like flash dads. There's still mates to this day. Steve is a particular kind of character. We've all got given that. He's a sod but he charms his way through and Steve Jones gets away with it. Steve Jones, he's done this, that and the other. One day when we all pass on and he'll go to the pearly gates and I'm half joking here but St. Peter or whoever is supposed to be up there will go. I've written a few words for my you know my incoming. What do you call it? Monax is getting involved. Oh, KS, yes. You know, for my Iver or what's it called? Oskers. I've written a few words and I open up things and go and some people will go Steve, what about this, this, this, this, this and that and Steve Jones will put on a little smile and he'll go, sorry about that but he'll let it in and the bloke will go and he's that kind of guy, you know. What would you have like to see and I enjoyed the series regardless of all the myths or the sort of like exaggerations, what would you have liked to see portrayed about you that wasn't in the movie? Well, just the whole thing that you know, I left the man and I had a whole big meeting with Malcolm about it and Steve and Paul and said, you know they said to me, can't you just all said to me, can't you just pretend you like I said, not really, you know you know, I'm writing all these kind of tunes and things and if you can't back me up a bit more if that's what you want, that's what's going to happen, that's what happened we're sitting and I just think it should have been more truthful and I think I don't think the real story is more gritty and truthful than the thing and I met Danny Boyle again and I was saying to him, I have to come out and I had a private scream and he went Danny, you're a cunt right and he's like so he knows where I'm coming from you know Did you have any input or say in the series? At the beginning, I had some meetings with Danny, particularly the production team and I thought it would all be an ironed out but then I was ignored, so I'm not happy I feel shafted What about Paul Cook? What do you think that wasn't in the movie that should have been about him? He had a bigger part to play I don't think Paul is 100% happy about it, I think he sort of comes across I went to say it with my son Louie I was a bit embarrassed really when I watched it Louie sort of quite astutely said he said, well the thing is I know you did this and the other and I also know it's about Steve he said, but you and Paul just come across as like real kind of two dimensional characters there's no sort of background your family and all that a bit of that could have been in it and it would have fleshed things out a little bit more and made it a bit more kind of real and he could say, well it's not time for all that in it well there was the whole episode on Chrissie and I not getting married to Steve which took up an hour of reverie did she ever get married in the UK, Chrissie Hines I don't know, I don't remember I don't know if she did she married Ray Davis Ray Davis later on not back then not back then, so she wanted a visa I guess or getting a visa started well yeah, she had a big kosher basically was Malcolm McLaren, was he as evil as he was portrayed in the film well I think the guy plays him pretty good the whole courtroom scene he's got Malcolm down to a T he was a tricky tricky fellow very interesting, erudite, funny I don't think he comes across as evil he comes across as highly crafty which is different what about that courtroom scene that's what I was talking about was that a real event that that actually happened well I wasn't in the court that day so I don't know, but the way the actor portrays Malcolm with all the flowery language and turning things around to his advantage from whatever the judge had to say I thought they kind of got that pretty good but whatever the actual words used and whether Malcolm drove there with many by himself I don't think he'd even know how to open the door to key I guess you must get hard of being asked every single day of your life about the sex business well not often I've already been up an hour you know Glenn it must be how many years has it been it's like it's been over 50 years 50 years I think I've been the only thing about always being a sexist I like to live in the present stuff my cap to the past and look to the future and that's what I always find but I have to do interviews to push things and people ask me about it what can I do what I did appreciate but the series was it showed you in a positive sense as the sort of melodic composer like he was the backbone of the band and without you two guys it's just yelling after that well there you go that's what I said earlier on all angles covered with the band there was a yin and yang yin and yang or yin and yang or yin and yang everything was covered the nuttiness and the musicality the intention and the cleverness and there was a lot of humor involved as well you know I think one of the things that sums up the pistols more than anything else is in a pretty vacant video they made after I left where Steve has got a knotted anarchy handkerchief on his head you know which comes from well that's what the working class bloke used to do when they went to the beach they didn't have that so they'd get anarchy they would make a hat of it and the self-respecting lead guitarist would do that other than Steve then it's funny there was a whole humor involved I think you already answered this question they call you up tomorrow they go let's just do a little mini tour of wherever USA or wherever would you do it well I always say never say never again but I would say no mega hats okay if there was no mega hats that would be on your rider right yeah but then there's probably I'm a big fan of the faces right and their last single which they put out as they were breaking up this called you can make me dance you can make me sing and then in brackets it says mend the fuse do the ironing take the rubbish out put the cat out or any other menial housekeeping duties it's actually on the title of the song so it would have no mega hats or arsonists or not buying around you know there'd be a whole disclaimer thing before it signed up to well you know I'll make a statement like I might watch the video of you guys in 1996 you guys were on fire I've never you're probably better back then than you were when you first started out yeah fire on fire possibly so you know and really looking back I mean I'm 66 now when we did the thing John's a bit older than me and Steve's a year older than me but both me and Paul you know Steve John was going fat 40 and back when I was with a fat and we weren't even 40 we were still 39 so we had the ump about that but that was 20 odd you know 25 of more years ago now so we were still relatively young men consequences coming are you planning on touring I want to in fact I'm here in Los Angeles mainly to do we're doing Coachella with Blondie I'm playing with Blondie at the moment I came over here we did a show in Miami then we went to Mexico City did a festival Bogota we did a couple shows there and then came back here and you know I can't get going back because I'm always in England so I thought I'd hang out but I'm actually going to do a show at the Roxy on the 29th of April Clem's going to play drums and we've got some sort of pickup musicians but um there's a guy called Steve Fishman who's a mate who's going to play bass but also Gilbert Tarks going to play league guitar we've had one rehearsal already it sounds good you know so that's going to be my American promo show for now but yeah I want to be out and about playing my stuff as well I like playing with different people because everything's a learning curve you know Blondie are a great punch they've got a canon of work Debbie's a great front person lady she sings like a bird you know when I started rehearsal with them I did some shows with them last year you know and they've got a proper crew you know maybe too many people knocking around in the rehearsal room and the sound guy said the clanker you know is everything alright and I said well can you turn Debbie up and he said well it's pretty loud I said yeah but I like it just turn it up a bit so there you go I mean I could talk to you all day but I won't I'll leave you be I know you had a really rough you know morning there consequences coming to be released April 27th on cooking vinyl I guess you could pick it up hopefully there will be a little mini tour somewhere maybe one day you'll come to Canada yeah I'd love to come to Canada when I go I'll go back right there on the 29th as I said on the 30th I've got about four or five band shows over there with my stuff and then I've got a whole bunch of like cool stick kind of in stores and things all through May and then I pick up with Blondie again through June and we've got a big show with Iggy Pop on the 1st of July Iggy Pop, Blondie and Generation Sex which is Steve Jones, Paul Cook Billy Idle and Tony James so that should be interesting backstage very very yeah yeah a lot going on it's been a pleasure thank you so much for your time yeah it's been fun it's been fun chatting I do want to say I don't know if anybody's ever told you but you don't have to look like Robert De Niro I get that I get that at least five times a month I'm at the dentist's office and he goes you know what you kind of look like Robert De Niro he says I'm at the store he looks like Robert De Niro I talk to guys like you I think maybe that's what we're getting on a lot because you know what I get I come back from Columbia the other day and there's quite a nice cafe around the corner I know where it is and go around and I walked in and the guy says hey you Al Pacino I'll get that we can do a movie together we can do a movie we can do a movie together it's true you do look like Al Pacino geez yeah but I did say to him the thing is I'm not I said about Al Pacino but I was getting really mad people going up to him saying he doesn't look like my mate well I'm sure Robert De Niro is getting didn't I see you in Montreal last month yeah alright my friend thank you so much alright fella thanks


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Hi everyone, Joe, for Jasper's CaseBreaks.com, coming at you with 2020 Panini Prism Football Team All Edition, five box, pick your team number one. Now, if you bought at least two teams, two teams will get you one entry, four teams gets you two entries, so on and so forth, for a shot at the chargers in this five box break. A lot of exclusive parallels here in this Team All Edition. So big thanks everybody here for making this happen. So let's sort your names alphabetically by your first name. Let's make this a little bit bigger here. So Bennett has two teams, that's an entry. Brian Watford picked up four teams, that's two entries. Brody, four teams, two entries. Carlos, two teams and an entry. Jeremy, two teams entry. Jeremy Port, six teams, three entries. Joe with two teams and an entry. Mark with two teams, that's one entry. Nick, two teams, one entry. Roy, two teams, one entry. And Steve, two teams, one entry. Steve H. Steve Burch got last spot in Mojo and you're part of tonight's Panthers Texans Thursday Night Football promo. So let's grab all of these names here. New dice, new list, and the name on top after nine, we'll get the chargers, six and a three, nine times. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. And once more. And again, ninth and final time, name on top after nine is gonna be Joe. Joe Locas, congrats to you. You have the chargers in this break. All right, now let's reauthorize by your, by team name again. And let's print and rip. I could get another Mohoams out of here. Bennett, what's going on? Hey Tommy. And let's flip back over here. There it is. One, two, three, four, five boxes. Those are the exclusives here. And here it is. And here's the final printout right here. Thanks everybody for hanging with us on a Thursday. Good luck everybody. Darren, what's going on? How are you? Right. Got Earl Thomas, Cooper Cup. Wow, and a rookie Silver Joe Burrow. That's for Brody and the Bengals. Not bad. We've got a Dak Prescott and a Justin Herber. There's the Dak Prescott out of 49. The red-yellow parallel. And there's the base Justin Herber for Joe who won the chargers in this. You want Prism? Who am I? No, I don't want this break to take an hour. Who am I? It's not for cards, it's for memorabilia. Autograph baseballs, if you want to join that break. Darren, we can play, who am I there? Chase Young, rookie Silver. Got a Clyde Edwards-y Lair in the mix as well. Nick with the Washington football team. Next box. We've got a rookie Silver. Noah Igbenogei and a Jalen Hurt and a Brandon Ayak. Base Jalen Hurt's going to Brody and the Eagles. The Dolphin Silver is going to go to Roy. Next box, a Giant's Padres on in the background. Six-six, top of the eighth. Dodger's won today, so if the Giant's lose, you can gain a game. Beyond Leighton Vanderesh is Patrick Queen, rookie Silver for the Ravens and a Devon Singletary. 35 out of 49. Gandy Golden and another Jalen Hurt's. Nice, Devon Singletary for the Buffalo Bills, Carlos with the Bills. And there's the Patrick Queen for the Ravens. That's going to go to Steve H. and Baltimore. Who do I like to know? Oh, Darren, if you check my Joe's Picks tab on the break schedule, you'll see that I like the Texans as well. I got them at plus seven and a half. There's Levy on Bell, Jason Pierre-Paul and rookie Silver, Eno Benjamin. We've got an AJ Brown, 17 out of 49, red and yellow, or yellow and red parallel. Another Clyde Edwards-E-Lair for Bennett and the Chiefs. There you go, boys and girls. Not a bad break at all for five boxes. You got some of the nice quarterbacks here. Got the Jalen Hurt's, couple Jalen Hurt's, a Silver Chase Young, a base Justin Herber, and a Silver Joe Burrow. That's pretty solid. Thanks for watching. Thanks for breaking with us, everybody. That was a five box break for the 2020 Panini Prism Football Team All Edition. Now let's pick your team number one. I'm Joe. I'll see you next time for the next break. Bye.


An ethical code would be a code that laid down a series of behaviors that are expressive of truth or reality that show people how to behave in line with or in a way that is consistent with the fact that everyone shares their being, that all ethics can be boiled down to that single fact. Ethical behavior is behavior that is consistent with the fact that we all share our being. This is why Saint Augustine when asked about these matters, ethics and laws, he simply said, love and do whatever you want. He meant simply realize that you are one with everything and everyone. And as long as your behavior is consistent with that understanding, you don't need any moral code that everything you do will be consistent with that understanding. The reason why we need 10 commandments or a moral code is for those of us that do not yet feel this, we are told how to behave in a way that is consistent with this understanding until we realize it for ourself. So let's go back to David and the symphony. So the violinist is, you say in your analogy, the violinist is one who is aware that she shares her reality with everyone and the clarinetist does not yet realize this.  However, I would suggest that many artists and many musicians, when they are in their studios or when they are performing in their quartets or their bands or their orchestras, that they are at least for the duration of a period of time in which they are performing, they transcend their limitations as a person and they perform in a way that is expressive of truth or reality. When they then go back to their everyday lives, they revert to believing and feeling that they are a separate self or an ego. But many people, in fact, this is why for some, for many artists their art is a kind of, it's not a compulsion, it's something that they can't not do, that they know that when they are in their studios or performing in their orchestras or band, they are in touch with something that they know is so utterly alive and true. And in that moment, they do transcend the sense of separation. They are expressing the truth, reality, love. So it's not black and white. It's not either you've recognized yourself, your true nature, and everything you do expresses that, or you haven't yet. There is a spectrum. Yes. Beautiful. Yes. And it's not only true of artists, it's true of everybody. Yes, exactly. In that sense, all eight billion are artists in that sense. Yes. Everybody, all eight billion of us, know the experience of love. In other words, everybody has tasted the fact that we share our being. And everybody has had the experience of behaving and relating in a way that is consistent with that understanding. For most people, it's only that behavior is only directed towards a few people in their circle, their friends, or their family. Yes. But nevertheless, they've still understood and felt what it is to share our being, even if that is not their consistent experience. And Rupert, would you say that we are over the last several thousand years, if not tens of thousands of years, that we have been going more and more towards the general, the full embodied realization more and more of that? I hope so. I hope so. Because that's the general idea of what an evolution, when people say that word, that's yeah. I tend to be optimistic. Optimistic. Everything ultimately is destined to return to its source. There is nowhere else for it to return to. So ultimately, everything is destined for its source. One could argue that there is more violence, more disharmony, more conflict in the world today. I would suggest that the old structures in our society were egoic structures. They were structures in our corporations, in our governments, in our institutions. They were structures that were based upon an egoic sense of self. More tyrannical. A separate self, and that expresses itself in extremes, in tyrannical dictatorships, but also in much smaller ways in families, in companies, in communities, and the sense of separation can express itself. I would suggest that the chaos we see in our society today, and the violence, the conflict, I hope, and I believe that it is the evidence that these structures are falling apart because they're not based in truth or reality. And although we're witnessing a time of great upheaval, I hope that it, and I believe that it makes for the possibility that a new order will emerge, one that is based on our shared being. That this must be, that there's a single understanding that we share our being with everyone and everything must be the foundation of any truly civilized culture. It must be at the origin of a civilized culture. I love that. I love that. That first principle of recognition of shared being, yeah. It's the principle that it should be the fundamental principle of all, not only of all of us, but because we're speaking of the world, of all politicians. Yes, exactly. All politics should be in the service of one idea or one understanding alone, namely, everyone and everything. When I say everything, I include everything because I'm not just talking about animals and people. I'm talking about the earth, our environment, that everyone and everything share their being. That should be the single guiding principle of all people in general, but politicians in general, their policies, their individual policies then in relation to different situations and events would be the means by which this understanding was then expressed and shared and communicated and implicated in society. Yes, we have been very obsessed about taking that recognition of shared being and having it deeply embodied at Davos, at the World Economic Forum, in the global 500 top companies, all the presidents and congresses of the world in Hollywood and Silicon Valley. All of these places, especially in people that have so much guiding influence, are the most important especially to have that recognition of shared being be that first principle. When it becomes the first principle, Rupert, it also enables the recognition that my clarinet or violin or saxophone or drums or bass or whatever I'm doing, it must be for augmenting the social fabric for enabling the basic needs on like a Maslow's hierarchy to be met so that if air, water, food, energy, education, healthcare, etc., are met, it enables people to have a deeper self-abidance. It enables the inquiry into the true nature of reality plus it enables them to become an artist in symphony as well. And so that's sort of the general process that at least I see happening. One who is, one who not only understands but feel that they share their being with everyone and everything, they play in tune in the symphony. And one who does not feel this plays out of tune. Out of tune, trying to hoard materialistic possessions and that type of stuff that versus playing in tune. I like that. I like that as well. That's so, so excellent.


Tantor Audio, a division of recorded books, presents Peach Cobbler Poison by Diana Dumont, narrated by Elise Arseneau. Chapter 1 I grimaced as I glanced at the clock above the door of the drunken pie café. The hour hand was creeping slowly toward the five, closing time, and I still hadn't sold even a tenth of what I'd baked this morning. What had I been thinking? That I could give up a lucrative legal career in a big city like San Francisco, move to a small town in wine country, and have instant success at opening my own pie shop? It had all sounded so good in theory, but reality was biting me hard right now. My grandma, whom I affectionately called Grams, had tried to warn me that breaking into the business world of Sunshine Springs wouldn't be easy, but I hadn't listened to her. What did an old, quirky lady like her really know about running a small business? Apparently, she knew more than I'd thought. I'd been convinced that my café concept, a pie shop that sold boozy pies paired with wine, would be the perfect afternoon stop for the fine citizens of this sun-drenched little town. But, true to Grams' warning, the locals weren't interested in supporting a non-local. And even though my driver's license now boasted a Sunshine Springs address, everyone here still considered me an outsider. Honestly, I felt like an outsider. But I'd begun to feel like an outsider in San Francisco, too. After I caught my husband cheating on me and filed for divorce, all of our mutual friends had turned their backs on me. They acted as though I had somehow been the one that did something wrong. After ten years of marriage, most of our friends had been mutual friends, so I wasn't left with many allies. And after ten years of dreaming of escaping city life, I decided that the middle of the divorce was the perfect time to start over. Who could blame me for feeling that way? I just hoped I hadn't blown all my savings on a café concept that wasn't going to work. I turned to straighten the stack of coffee mugs on the counter behind me. On Grams' advice, I'd made sure to offer espresso drinks and coffee in addition to wine. After all, some customers might be looking for a shot of caffeine to replenish their energy before heading to one of the big local wineries for another wine tasting. I offered non-alcoholic pies, too. Sample complete. Ready to continue?


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Don't you want to try a cigarette with a record like this? Chesterfield. Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime. For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel step-by-step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official police fire. From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force in action. It was Monday, April 20th. It was warm in Los Angeles. We were working the day. Watch out of auto theft detail. My partner's Frank Smith. The boss is Captain Nelson. My name's Frank. I was on my way into the office and it was 8.02 a.m. when I got to room 40. Auto theft. All right, Frank. All right. Where'd you get sunburned? I went fishing yesterday. Yeah, where'd you go? I don't know, Port. How'd you do? Didn't. What do you mean? I didn't. Yesterday's the first day off we've been able to collect for a month. Yeah, I know. Last Thursday, I checked with a skipper. Said it looked like I'd be able to make it sure this weekend. So I called a place. I made reservations. All set. Gonna go fishing. Yeah. Saturday night, I got all my tackle out and took my reel apart. Cleaned it. All ready. Say, pack the lunch. Real good. I'm all set. Get up at 4.45 in the morning. I drove down to Newport. Beautiful morning. Yeah, sunshine and little wind, you know, really looking forward to it.  Get down there, get on the boat. Not many people, maybe 15 or 20. Yeah, not many for a Sunday, was it? No, that's why I think I got it made. I got a place right at the back of the boat.  I went down to get some breakfast.  What do you suppose we were? Well, I wouldn't know. I'll take a guess. I think I wouldn't have the least idea. All right, where were you? Right back at the dock. What? Yeah. Right back at the dock. They'd gone out to the ocean and the water was so rough, they turned around and came right back. And all the while, I'm down below having breakfast. I didn't even see the ocean. Oh, well, that's too bad, isn't it? Yeah. Picked up my pack of one that weren't fished on the pier. After all day, ate my lunch and fished all day. Well, how'd you do there? Pretty good, huh? All day, just getting a blister on my lips from the sun. I just sat there. Yeah, well, did you catch anything? How'd you do it? Skunked. Huh? Skunked, nothing. You mean you didn't catch anything at all? Well, a couple of little perch. Uh-huh. Yeah, well, it's too bad. Did you check the book? My day off. I'm skunked. I got it. All up that Friday. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I want it to go up. Yeah, just a minute. Right, what's that address again? Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we'll be right there. You bet. Right. I'll get your hat. Yeah. Truck rental company out on Pico. Guy came in Saturday and rented a two ton from him. Yeah. Said he'd be back in a couple of hours. Uh-huh. I haven't seen him since. 8 24 a.m. We drove out to the address of the Coventry U Drive Truck Service. The lot was on the corner of Pico Boulevard and Cambridge Street.  And in the back of the yard was one large state truck. The office was in a small wooden building at the rear of the lot. We went in and talked to the manager, Mr. Stephen Cole. I tried to check him this morning when the truck wasn't back. Once the landlady said she saw him come home with the truck set. She hasn't seen him since. What's the man's name, Cole? The name he used when he rented the truck was George Summers. At the Avenue Identification? Yeah, he had a driver's license. I got the number here on the slip. Oh, here it is. The California license. He got to have one when he rented the truck. He signed his name. George R. Summers' number and license was W-4014626. 26, huh? Mm-hmm. What kind of a truck was it? A new Ford. Just got a couple of weeks ago. Brand new. What color was it? Blue, light blue. Had the name Coventry paid on the side. Names in the cream color. Kind of a truck, is it? Two ton stakes. Well, is it possible that this Summers is just keeping it out longer than he said he would? Possible, but it isn't likely. Said when he came in, he wanted a whole load of furniture. Said he just needed a couple of ours. That was Saturday morning. We haven't heard a word from him since. I got read out looking for it now. Who's read? What's for me? Oh, I see. Uh, when a truck is late getting back, we usually call first, then send one of our men out to check on it. Now, Red drove over to see this Summers. He left about an hour ago. I haven't heard from him yet. All right, so do you get a deposit on the truck? Yeah, we do. Some of the places don't, but we get one. Twenty bucks. Oh, the Summers pay cash? No, it gave me a check. I haven't had a chance to deposit it yet. I'll call the bank later. Uh-huh. Can you give us a description of the man? Well, not very good. I was out in the yard when he came in. I didn't handle a deal myself. I got a look at him, but not good. Would you know him again if he saw him? Well, it'd be hard to say. Couldn't be sure. The girl would, though. She wrote out the papers. I wonder if we could talk to her. Yeah, she'll be in at nine. You can talk to her then. You got his address there? I'll see if I can check the name. Yeah. Oh, here it is. 2462 New Jersey Street. Oh, OK. Can you give us some kind of a description on him? Well, I told you he didn't get a good look at him. He's a small fella, blonde, maybe 25 or 26 around in there. That's about the best I can do. Excuse me, man. Yeah. Coming to you, drive? Yeah, how big? Oh, sure, we got one. Yeah, wait a minute. I'll check. Just a minute. Run you two, ten, the first hour, a dollar, twenty-five an hour after that. No, there's gas in it when you get it, that's all right. Oh, you pay for the gas, all right. Well, there's a twenty dollar to be farthest. That's right. Well, you get it back. California driver's license. Right. Cold. C-O-L-E. OK, bye. All right, if I use the phone there. Oh, sure, help yourself. Thanks. Pretty busy, all right? Yes, sir. Once in a while, we get kind of slow, but it seems like everybody's moving or something all the time. I can do it, please. Yeah, two-six, two-six. We've got three other places, you know, around town. Hi there, Dr. Frank Smith, two-six, three-three. Could you check the name George R. Summers, please? Well, he's described as WMA, twenty-three to twenty-seven. Slight bill. And blonde. So blonde. Possible address is given as two, four, six, two. I wonder if we can see the check he left his deposit code. Sure, I got it kept on the back of the slip. Sure, I'll have it. Here it is. That truck is worth about $2,800 as an advance, you know. But you carry insurance on it, don't you? Oh, sure, it's covered, but that isn't the point. That guy that just called wants to rent it to some stake. Only got two of them. Somebody else calls, I'm going to lose their rental. That's what grabs have. Probably turn out that deposit check isn't any good either. Not all the way around. How about it, Frank? Well, I can't be sure. I've got a record on a Georgia or a summer that might be it. Address is different, but out of six cars, it's the closest. It's done time for possession. What's he mean possession? It's narcotic. Oh, so how about it if you want it now? No, nothing on him. You give us the license number of the truck? Yeah, it's right here. I got the body motor serial number two. Lousy phone. Hey, here's a slip you can copy to dope yourself. Thank you. Tell him to you drive. Yeah. Is he there? Uh-huh. You tell me to get right down here. Yeah, you bring him. Right. Well, that's it. Huh? Call us from Reddy. He found Summers in his boarding house. Says he'd been there since Saturday night. How about the truck? According to what he told Reddy, he left it out in front of the house Saturday afternoon. Yeah. Came back, it was gone. 914 AM, the owner of the truck rental service called the bank that the deposit check had been written on. He talked to the cashier and found that there was enough money in Summers' account to cover the check. We got a full description from Cole's secretary of the suspect. The check of the truck company record showed that he'd never rented the truck from them before. 946 AM, Summers arrived at the office of the U-drive company. We talked with him briefly and asked him to accompany us downtown. We got out of local and an APB on the stolen truck. We checked his fingerprints against the record card and got a positive identification. 1037 AM, we took him to the interrogation room. Ever been arrested? You know the answer to that. I'd like to have you tell us. Yeah, I saw once did my time, I'm clean, no parole. I'm gonna tell us about the truck deal. Sure, I got nothing to lose. I didn't have anything to do with it. All right, from the beginning. I rented about noon on Saturday. What were you gonna use it for? How to help a friend of mine move some furniture. What's the friend's name? Louise Jordan. Where she live? 2487 Clifford Street. She got a phone? No. Hey listen, I don't want you guys going around there giving her a bad time. According to the landlady, it's your place. She saw you drive away from the rooming house on that truck Saturday afternoon. How about it? Yeah, how about it? What do you get to say? She's off her rocker. She saw anybody, 6-2, and even it wasn't me. No way we get it, she was pretty sure. You get it wrong. According to the record, you were picked up for the violation of the State Narcotics Act, right? I don't like the record. If that's what it says, that's what I sell for. Well, let me see your arm. Why?  Come on. I don't like the way you guys are acting. You got nothing on me.  You got nothing? Let me get out of here. Sit down. Sit down, son. Come on. I want to see your arm. I can't approve of anything. Roll it up. Looks like you've been riding kind of high. It's not as bad as it looks. That's from before. It looks fresh. When's the last time you had a pop? A long, long time. How long? I don't remember. You're holding now? No. You got a habit? No. That's a rough, joy-pop once in a while. I must think you're playing with kids this summer. Why don't you stop conning? If you look like you're hoaxing, you know it. You're as bad as my landlady. Frank? Yeah. You want to get in touch with narcotics? See if Roxie can come over. Sure, right away. What's the deal I'm calling him over? Why don't you have him look at your arms? See what he thinks? He'll tell you. It's like I said. There's always a way to find out. What's that? Choppy and a cell in white. If you haven't got a habit, you won't mind. We're going to hold you anyway. For what? The truck's got too many holes in it. What do you mean? It's true the way I told you. That's the way it happened. You don't believe anything, do you? Yeah, the truth when we hear it. I'm giving you that. You aren't buying it. Maybe it's the way you're trying to sell it. You want to tell us what really happened to that truck? I told you. I parked it out in front of my house. When I came back it was gone. Isn't there anything more? Well, if you were home, how come your landlady says she didn't see you from Saturday afternoon? I came in the back way. But once the old bat was looking the other way. You mean you stayed in your room all that time? Yeah, that's what I said. What do you do for a living? You mean do I work? That's right. No, you don't work, huh? No, I had a job, but I lost it. When? Friday. What'd you do? I was a pro diver. What'd you wash dishes? Place down on 6th. Why'd you get fired? Boston, I had a beef. What about? I only got hacked because I came in the lake. Roxy's on his way over, John. It's Roxy. Is that Roxy Lucarelli? Yeah, do you know him? Yeah, I ran into him before. A nice guy treated me right. He's the one that nailed you? He's one of them. I know these joy pops you've had. Where do you get this stuff? Around here and there. Why don't you come off at summer? You might think you're playing at Cozy, but you're laying a big bomb here. The store you're trying to peddle. This is phoning all the way through. We know it and so do you. Why don't you level on it? Making it a lot easier. I'd like to, cop. Really, I would. There's just one big problem. Yeah. You're off base. You know it. You haven't got anything on me. I rented a truck. It was stolen. I'm the one that reported it. I didn't try to get away. I'm telling you all I know.  You guys just can't stand to see anyone carry a lunch bucket for long. You got to try to make it for something, even if you have to build it yourself. You made a big mistake this time, cop. You haven't got anything on me that you can stick.  And that's what I'm going to do.  I can tell us again about the truck. Come on. What time did you find out it was gone? Didn't tell us that. Did you leave the keys in the truck when you parked it? Right, Mr. You're playing that smart. Let's see how long you can make it last. We'll see how it is after you've been sitting in the cell for a few hours. We'll try to get in there now. I'm going to take my time. You do that. We got a lot of it. Sergeant Roxy Luccarelli came over from the narcotics division to talk to the suspect. Summers would say nothing. The marks on Summers' arm were fresh and indications were that he was a narcotics user. Summers was booked at the main jail in suspicion of violation of the state narcotics act of felony. Frank and I, along with Sergeant Luccarelli, went over to the suspect's rooming house. A thorough search of the place netted us nothing. We talked with a landlady and she gave us the same story she'd given the owner of the U-Drive truck service. She said that it was possible for Summers to come in through the back of the house and get to his room without being noticed. But she told us that there'd been several phone calls for him on Sunday and that when she'd knocked on his door, there'd been no answers. 5.30 p.m. We checked back into the office and found that there'd been no replies to the broadcast we'd gotten out on the truck. We ran Louise Jordan, Summers' girlfriend, through R&I, but we found no record on anyone answering her description. We drove out and talked to her and she verified the suspect's story about moving the furniture. A meeting with the district attorney's office decided that there was not enough evidence to bring Summers to court on the narcotics charge and not enough to issue an indictment for the theft of the truck. It was released from custody. In the next three weeks, we got reports of four more trucks being stolen. The MO was the same as with the Coventry U-Drive theft. In each instance, the persons involved were checked out, but the leads we came up with let us know where. Additional MO bulletins were gotten out, warning all operators of U-Drive agencies to be on the lookout for a fee for thieves unknown. Another two weeks passed. The thefts continued, but the thieves had switched their method of operation. They were now stealing privately owned automobiles from parking lots in front of homes. 3rd of June 4th, Frank and I checked into the office. I got it. How about that Friday? Yeah. Now please, put it through. Sal Gaaton from San Diego. Yeah? Yeah. Hi, Al. Uh-huh. When? Yeah. Well, anybody near? How about paper? Yeah, no, we'll be right down. Yeah, okay. What? They've been keeping up. Right. Well, maybe they're. No, we'll leave you right away. We'll see you in about the... Well, let's see. It's 10-20 now. About three hours? About how long we'll take it for. Yeah, bye. Bye, bye, Al. Well, he says that truck from Coventry U-Drive has been found. What? Just outside Rosarito Beach in Mexico. Yeah. Found new registration papers and something else under the sea. Huh? 12 bindles of heroin. You are listening to Dragnet, the authentic story of your police force in action. Chesterfield is best for you. Listen to Chesterfield's record. For a full year and two months, a doctor has been making regular examinations of a group of Chesterfield smokers, and he reports no adverse effect to the nose, throat, and planuses from smoking Chesterfields. Don't you want to try a cigarette with a record like this? Chesterfield, first with premium quality in both regular and king's eyes. Chesterfield, first choice with Young America, and that's from a survey of 274 colleges and universities. Cry Chesterfields today. Remember, Chesterfield is America's best cigarette buy. 10.25 a.m., we talked with Captain Nelson about the latest developments in the case, and he instructed us to leave for San Diego. When we arrived at San Diego, we checked with their auto theft detail, and with Sergeant Al Gaaton, he went with us to the border. We talked with the authorities at the border, but they could give us little information. They said that they'd received the bulletins we'd sent out, but that they hadn't seen the stolen vehicle. We checked with the authorities at Tijuana, and with them, we drove to the location where the truck had been found. A thorough search of the area was started, but we turned up nothing. None of the people in the immediate vicinity could tell us anything about the truck. From the registration slip, we got the name of the owner. The license plates were issued by the state of California, but a check showed that they'd been taken from a wrecked car. The narcotics found in the cab of the truck were turned over to the Mexican police. The next morning, Frank and I left for Los Angeles. While we'd been gone, officers Bill Donovan and Jack Pilkington, along with Sergeant Al Mansell, had been following up the leads in the Los Angeles area. They hadn't come up with anything new. The car thefts continued. State police units along the road to the Mexican border were alerted, but the cars continued to disappear. Two weeks went by. Tuesday, June 23rd, Frank and I came back from a meeting with members of the National Auto theft bureau. Want to check the book? Yeah, I'll get it. One of these thefts are sure dropping a recovery record, aren't they? Yeah. Talk to Skipper this morning and the insurance companies are raising the rough. I'm gonna figure if it's costing them a lot. There's a message here from Judge Shelton, wants us to call him. Sheriff's Department? Yeah. Mark the portant. You want to get it? Yeah, I'll get it. Narcotics, please. Yeah, Judge Shelton, man. Yeah, thanks. He's there. Hey, Judge, is Frank Smith over at all of that? Yeah. Why do you think that's just... Yeah. 20 on a meter. Mm-hmm. Okay, we'll be right over. Right, goodbye. Anything? Yeah, Judge got a call this morning from a girl, says she's been invited down to Mexico. Yeah. Says two of them are going down to pick up some heroin. Yeah. What do we fit in? The girl told Judge they'd be driving a stolen car. Call a justice and talk to Sergeant Judge Shelton. He told us about the call he'd received. He said that he was supposed to meet the girl at 3.30 that afternoon and he wanted to know if we wanted to accompany him. We told him we did. At 3.15pm, the three of us walked into a bar on West 7. We waited for the girl to arrive. 3.46pm. There she comes. Abla, yeah. Hi, Judd. If there, I'd like you to meet a couple of friends in line. Kirk, Collins, Frank Smith, Joe Friday. How do you do, Vera? Thank you. Sit down, Vera. Can I get you anything? Sandwich, cup of coffee? No. I could use an old-fashioned, though.  Okay, I'll get it. Excuse me. Sure. You two guys' cups? Yes, ma'am. Where you work out of? Centralano, Beth. Well, that's why Judd called, too, huh? Hi. About the hot car we're driving south. Yes, ma'am. My name is Vera. Why don't you use that? All right, Vera. You know where the stolen car is, the one they're going to drive down. Not now. I will, will I? What do you mean? I don't think it's been stolen yet. What? I don't think the car's been stolen yet. Well, do you know when it's going to be taken? Sometime this afternoon. We're supposed to leave tonight. You know who's going to take it? Yes, friend of mine. Someone named Harry Sloan. Mm-hmm. Here's your old-fashioned, Vera. Thanks, Judd. You know how this operation's going to work, Vera? No. All I know is I got a call from Harry this morning. He asked me what I was doing. I told him nothing. So he asked me if I wanted to take a drive down to Mexico. I told him my word and he said he'd pick me up. He's going to pick you up at your house? No. No, he said he'd call me and let me know where I'd meet him. Well, where's he going to call you? My place in about an hour. What did he say it makes you think the car's going to be stolen? Just the way he talks. I can't say anything real definite. You know, just the way he talks. You work alone? No, there's another guy with him. I don't know who he is. What did he say to you about the narcotics? He said that he was planning to pick up some age down there. Didn't say where. He gave us a description of this, Harry, where he lived? Yeah, I can give you that. Got a record, you know? Never talked about it. I think maybe he's been picked up a couple of times, but I don't think he serves time. You said on the phone you had an idea how we could take him. Yeah. You see, I'll have to drive my car to meet him. As soon as I get a call from Harry, I'll get in touch with you and tell you where the meet's going to be. I'll park my car and leave the license number of the stolen car in it. Where? In the back seat. Judd, wouldn't it be a lot easier if we just kept her under surveillance? Might be better for you, but it wouldn't for me.  He'd kill me. Sure, this is a big operation. It's just Harry and on it. What do you mean? All those cars that have been stolen lately, the trucks, it's all part of the deal. Same bunch as doing it. You mean it's an organized ring? Sure. They got it all laid out from here in Sonata. All the way, it's planned. You know who the top man is? No. I never heard the name, Harry never used it. When you take all the trucks down to Mexico, do they? Hmm? From what I understand, most of them end up down there. You got any idea how they do it? No. What do you want out of this? What? Well, where are you going to come out, Vera? Why are you telling us all this? Judd gave me a break once. This is my way to pay him back. Harry doesn't mean anything to me. I don't care if you're getting him. Well, I still think we ought to keep you under surveillance. Be safer for you, Vera. Don't worry about it. I'll let you know right where I'm going to park my car. You'll find that, and I'll see that the other information is there. I better get going now. Just a minute. You want to give us a description of Sloan? Sure, I can tell you what Harry looks like. What are you going to do? Check up on him? Would like to know who we're after. I don't think you'll find anything. You'd be pretty surprised if you do. Not as surprised as he'll be. We got the description of Harry Sloan and called the office to check the name. There was no record of anyone answering his description. Vera Collins was unable to tell us anything about the second man in the operation. She went back to her home and waited for the phone call from Sloan. We returned to the office and waited for her to contact us with the information about the stolen car. At 5.15 p.m. we got a call from her saying that her car would be parked somewhere within a 16 block area. From Washington Boulevard to the north, Adams Boulevard to the south, from Crenshaw Boulevard to the west, and Arlington Avenue to the east. Frank, Judge Shelton and I drove out to the area and began to cruise the vicinity. We spent the next hour looking for the car. When we were sure that it was not in the designated area, we began to expand our search. At 6.37 p.m. we found the car parked on a small side street near St. Charles Place, 12 blocks outside the designated area. We searched the car and found a slip of paper in the back seat. It said Chevrolet Sedan, blue color, 1C33272. We'll try to stall Harry on way to Tijuana. It was signed Vera. We got out of local and an APB with special attention to the border patrol on the car, asking that if it was found abandoned to place a stake out on it and to notify us immediately. It was 7.02 p.m. when we started to drive to the Mexican border. We kept in constant radio contact with Sergeant Al Gaaton at the border, and he told us that the suspect's car had not crossed over yet. 10.37 p.m. we drove through National City and took the road to Tijuana. Just south of Chula Vista, we picked up a car that matched the description of the stolen vehicle. How about it, Joe? Yeah, it matches. Frank, can you get a little closer? Yeah, I think so. Different license plates, Judge. Probably switched to cold plates. That's what I haven't been spotted before. You see him yet? Yeah, it's the Collins woman, all right. Want to take him now? Yeah, I'll get the sign. All right, get your hands on that wheel right and see him. I'll cover the other thing, all right? All right, get out of the car. What are you trying to prove? We're always sure.  Come on, you two, get out. I don't know what you're trying to prove. We haven't done anything. All right, come on, let's don't argue. All right, Mr. Over to the car. I'll take him, Joe. I'm going to be sorry about this. You've got to wait to stop us. That's still... Yeah, he's clean. Turn around. You're George Summers, aren't you? Yeah.  Yeah, you had to let me go. You're going to do the same this time. You've got nothing to hold me in. No, you're wrong there, Summers. Where'd you get this car? I borrowed it. From who? A friend of mine. Who knows? You took it, huh? Certainly. You told me to. This car's stolen and you know it. We know all about the operation, the whole deal. You going to stay on the rap alone or are you going to tell us who the big gun is? What do you mean, operation? This isn't the first car you've shoved across the border. We know about the narcotics, too. You're in this all the way. You've got a choice. You can take it along or you can go along with us and nail the big guy. It's up to you. I wouldn't do any good if I told you who he was. I can't prove anything. I don't need it, can you? You'll never get him, never. Yeah, right. Sure, he told me so. 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And now, tonight's presentation of Radio's Outstanding Theatre of Thrills Suspense. Tonight, the story of a duel, an incomplete duel, since one of its participants chooses to wait and owe his adversary. So now, starring William Conrad with John Daener, here is tonight's suspense play, The Shot. Everyone's here, I see. You're late, Rose. I stopped to pick these. Cherry, anyone? No. They're delicious. For a man who's about to die, you don't seem too concerned. I am concerned, Peyton. I have a whole hat full of delicious cherries that certainly have to be eaten.  You will draw lots, gentlemen. The papers in this hat are numbered from one to ten. You will each draw a paper. The man who receives the highest number will fire the first shot. Well, after you, Lieutenant Peyton. And good, good luck. Your draw, sir. Mr. Peyton? I draw eight. Now, I have drawn ten. Mr. Rolls wins the first shot. Back to back. You will pace away until the count of eight is completed. Mr. Rolls has the first shot. You, Mr. Peyton, will return his shot. Understood? Yes, understood. Is anyone present here who finds this not an honorable way to settle the dispute between these two men? Are you ready, gentlemen? Are you ready? One, two, three, four, five. Mr. Peyton, are you all right? Are you hit? No, I'm all right. Bullet went through my hat. Your shot, Lieutenant Peyton. Yes, I know. Carried. Wonderful.  Do I have to remind you that you have a shot at me? Go ahead. Take it. No, not now. Zachary is taking a shot at you. You have to take your shot at him.  I don't have to do anything. Yet. You challenged him to a duel, Zachary. Quiet. Would you like to take your shot from here, Peyton? No. You don't seem ready for death this morning, Rolls. You're wrong again, sir. I'm always ready for death or life. You've disappointed me, Peyton. Have I? Or perhaps I've disappointed you. At any rate, all of these gentlemen witnessed that I went through my part of the challenge. Now, witness this. You still have your shot, Peyton. And if you aren't afraid to use it, I'll always be ready for you. Any day, any place. I'll remember that, Rolls. Please do, sir. Good day, gentlemen. It's a lovely morning. Zachary, he'll tell everyone about this. You'll be ruined. You can't expect to stay in the regiment now. Why deprive him of life when he attaches no value to it? You ended the duel your way, and it's not an honorable way, Zachary. The duel is not ended. You heard him. All of you heard him. I still have my shot coming. And I'll take it. I'll choose the day. And I'll choose the place.  Watch your mail. Open the door. Set it there on the table, Mr. Temple. Thank you. Yes, sir. Oh, I didn't know you had a visitor. Mr. Stockwell, this is Mr. Temple, my landlord. How do you do, Mr. Temple? Mr. Stockwell, Virginia Volunteer. Mr. Stockwell, now, Mr. Temple. There's no longer a confederate army or a confederacy. I forget sometimes, sir. I served under you in the third volunteers, and I... Mr. Temple had quite a career as a soldier, Jim. He's told me about it every day since I took this room. Only thing left to talk about now, Colonel. There's nothing but carpet, baggers, and Yankee. We all know how it is, Mr. Temple. Was there anything else? Oh, yes. Those are fine dueling pistols, Mr. Peyton. I have already admired, Mr. Peyton.  Hits it every time. Some shooting, I declare. Mr. Peyton practices all the time. Oh, that all, Mr. Temple. I ask if that was all. Is there something else you have to say? Well, it's my wife, Mr. Peyton. I mean, Libby don't like it. She don't understand how it is with a man and a gun. Women are like that. I keep telling her, these are hard times, and we surely appreciate getting a man in here who can pay us a little rent, but then she just don't know... Then tell her. Tell her, Mr. Temple, I practice shooting and all kinds of light and I continue to do it. Good day, Mr. Temple. Yes. Good day to you both. Jim. No thanks. Yeah. Well, you haven't changed too much, Zachary. A little gray? It's been seven years now. Now, Zachary, you have changed. The man who was just here was afraid of it. Scared, shrinking little man. I might comment, Zach. You didn't do anything to alleviate his fright. He uses his wife as an excuse. It's not his wife, it's him. He's frightened of my gun. He knows what I can do with it. But that means nothing to you. He has no bearing on your life? True. But it comes to him that a gun pointed at a card stuck on a fence can just as easily be pointed at a heart stuck in a man's chest. Would you mind putting those pistols back in the case? You're afraid too, Jim. I'm not a Willis temple. Don't treat me like that, Zachary. I'm your friend. I came here to meet you because you asked me. Why am I here, Zachary? What do you want? A week ago, I received a letter from Norfolk. It mentioned that an older Quinkens of mine is living here. A man who was an officer in my regiment. His name is Benjamin Rolls. Oh. Do you know him, Jim? Slightly. I've seen him around town. Spoken to him once or twice. How does he look these days? Not knowing how he looked when you knew him, I'd say he looks mighty fine, Zach. He's in good health, I think. And he's done better than most of us. I understand his family lost all they had. It's a banner, but there's an English branch that died off and filled in the inheritance. He's very well off. Marsha Pemberton's considered to be a very, very lucky young lady in these parts. Marsha Pemberton? The girl he married last week. Does he love her? What? Do you know if he loves this girl he married? Well, it's apparent to everybody in town that he loves her very much. When he was caught in her folks in town saw him together, often I saw him. I would say Ben Rolls is in love. The way a man loves only once in his life. Is that what you want to know? Yes. Why? It's important for me to know. Because I'm your friend Zachary, I'm talking to you about Ben Rolls, but I'm uncomfortable. I don't like talking about a man. Do you see over there that large white house on the hill? Yes, I see it. That's where Ben lives. He's right there, Zachary. You can talk to him instead of me. I won't answer any more questions, Zachary. Zachary, why do you want to know these things about Ben Rolls? I want to satisfy myself that he's at last found something to live for. I want to know if he can still laugh down a gun barrel. I heard about that, dude. I won't let you do this thing, Zachary. There's been enough killing.  You are listening to The Shot, tonight's presentation in Radio's Outstanding Theater of Thrill's Suspense. To keep the United States Air Force at full strength around the clock, around the year, America's youth must respond in greater numbers than ever. An Air Force career offers travel, education, adventure, and high pay. More than that, it offers a personal opportunity to help America lead the world in the cause of freedom. For further information, see your local recruiter. And now we bring back to our Hollywood soundstage, William Conrad, starring in tonight's production of The Shot, a tale well calculated to keep you in suspense. James Starkwell? Yeah. This is Palke Gager and Quincy Talbot. We were in the Army together, Zach. How do, Mr. Peyton? Palke and Quincy were executive officers forming the third cavalry. We served together at Appomattox. What do you and your friends want, Jim? I want to talk to you about Ben Roll, some more, Zach. I've told Palke and Quincy all you told me, they're close friends to me now, and I've asked them to assist me. That's right, Kevin. Mr. Starkwell told us everything. Zach, the war did many things to all of us. Everything we thought and lived for is gone now, but we are still human beings.   And this is what I want to talk about. Wanting to kill a man in cold blood, a man you haven't seen for seven years, but that doesn't make sense. I'm your friend, Zach, and I want to help you. Go home, Jim. Palke, Quincy, this is none of your business. We can't do that, Zachary.  Let's all go upstairs to your room and talk a bit, Captain. Quincy's got some fine whiskeys that come in from Ireland, haven't you, Quincy? Sure have, Captain. It's Jameson's. You're a man I'd be proud to share it with. Captain, Mr. Starkwell is your friend. And he's thinking of you. It's Ben Rolls, your friend, too, Jim. You're trying to protect him. What I know of Ben Rolls, I told you this afternoon. Get out of my way.   But I won't let you go over there. No. Ah, Quincy! Ah! Oh, fool, Zachary, up here. Ah, stop it! All right, Palke, it's the only way. All right, let me down there. Quincy, hand me that whisky. Yes, sir. I'll get his hit, Mr. Starkwell. Right here. Here. I'm sorry, Zachary. Sometimes we all go about things the wrong way. I'm noted for my poor judgment in many matters. Jim, ask him to wait over there. All right, Palke. Quincy, over there. Sure it's all right, Mr. Starkwell. Captain Peyton is a man of honor. Come on, Quincy. Be right over by the trees, sir. Jim, Jim, I have to kill him. I have to before I can ever live again.  When you've lived with a hate as long as I've lived with it, there's nothing else you can do. Zach, Zach, it would solve nothing. Killing Ben Rose. Why do you think I resigned my commission before the war was over? Why do you think I disappeared from the Confederacy? Why do you think I never returned to my home? I heard you had done all those things. I didn't ask any questions because you're my friend. Ben. Ben Rose. The cause of everything.  Over what? Why? A girl. Just a girl we both liked. I don't even remember her name. No, everybody had seen her come. Until Rose joined the regiment, I was the most popular officer with my fellow officers and the ladies. Exactly. That was then. And this is now. But my life stopped then, Jim. Jim tried to remember how it was then in the early stages when the North was dying and not the South. It was so fashionable to be young and reckless and brave and an officer in the Confederate army. And then to be slapped by a man more brave, more reckless, more... more everything. It was too much, Jim. Zach, those days are gone. Forget them. The whole way of life is different now. It's no different for him. And it's no different for me, Jim. Can you kill a man for something that happened then? He shot at me once. Now I owe him a shot. You know that, Jim? Yes, exactly. And you owe him a shot. Go ahead. And letting him go, Mr. Starkwell? Yes. I can't stop him. It's between him and Ben Rose now. I've usually received people who refuse to give their names to my servants. Hello, Rose. What? Don't you recognize me? Zachary Payton, what are you doing here? How you were shot, Rose. And I've come to pay off. I see. Are you ready? I'm ready. I told you I always would be. Yes, you did. Then you asked me to remember it. You don't seem quite as certain as you were the last time we met. Is there something wrong? We were at eight paces before. Yes. Be mind if I count. I'll count. As you will, Rose. Back to back. One. You seem in a hurry to die, Mr. Rose. It's Marsha, my wife. She'll be coming home any minute. Ah, well, in that case, we'd better get on with it then. You know I apologize, Mr. Rose, that this pistol isn't loaded with cherry stones. You have no idea how often I've dreamed of cherry stone bullets since last we met. I think they would be somewhat lighter than lead. Shoot. This doesn't seem to me like a duel anymore. It's just plain murder. And if I'm anything, I will not be called a murderer. You must understand that I've had quite a long lecture on why I shouldn't be doing this. I don't like shooting an unarmed man. Well, there's another pistol in my case all loaded. Take it and then we can start over. You hesitate, Mr. Rose. Detect, sir. Go ahead, Mr. Rose. You're shot. What? You may have the first shot. I'm ready. Well, sir, you have broken a candle holder and ruined a picture. Truly, oh, you were shot. What's the matter? Oh, Ben, you all right? I'm fine, Marsha. Fine. Truly, I am. Can't you see we're just joking? Joking? Don't be so frightened. I'll tell you what. Find Abrams and ask him to bring up some nice wine. And then I'll introduce you to my old friend here. Tell me, sir. Is my husband telling the truth? Ben, is it true you're just joking? He's always joking, Mrs. Rose. Once he slapped me in the face. Oh, a joke. Another time he put a bullet through my cap. For a joke. And just now he fired a gun at me and missed. Another joke. Now I think I'll have my little joke. And end this joking. This is the man paid and you told me about. Leave the room, Marsha. This is between us. This man has a right to shoot at me. I wouldn't have any honor if I didn't allow. Oh, no. Shoot, Peyton. Shoot, man, and stop making her suffer for me. Will you fire or not? No. No, sir. I will not fire. I'm satisfied. I've seen you afraid. I've forced you to fire at me. That's enough.  I'll leave you to your conscience. No. As for that shot. Here it is. Goodbye, Mr. Rose. You took your shot. Yes. I put it in the picture. Right next to his shot. Zack. Zack, he's still alive. You could have killed him, but he's alive. He's fine, Jim. And still the bravest man I ever met. Let's go, Jim. Suspense, in which William Conrad starred as Peyton with John Dana as Rose. Next week, the terrifying story of a young couple and a manned woman and what happened to them. We call it On a Country Road. That's next week on Suspense. Suspense is produced and directed by Norman McDonnell with music composed by Lucian Morrowick and conducted by Love Bluskin. The shot by Alexander Pushkin, was specially adapted for suspense by E. Jack Newman. 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