So first of all, good afternoon slash good evening and welcome everybody and happy New Year. This talk is going to be by Professor Nathan Hill of Trinity College Dublin whose title is The Word for Tiger in Chinese and other Asian languages and as you probably know, this talk is organised as part of the Dublin Lunar New Year Festival. So what's going on? Why is there a Lunar New Year happening? So Lunar years are different from our calendar, which is why the 1st of January is where we start, but Lunar years start slightly differently. And the date of the first Lunar varies from year to year. So it's the first new moon between the 21st of January and the 20th of February. So it's going to be tomorrow, I think, that the Lunar year starts. And Lunar year is an incredible cultural importance across Asia. And traditionally, the years are associated with animals in the Chinese tradition so that we're about to enter in 2022, the year of the tiger. Now this is of great interest for lots of reasons, partly to do with the rich cultural universe of Asia and partly because this throws up related questions such as the meaning of words, which people are always fascinated by. So why is it the year of the tiger? And more importantly, for this talk, where does the word tiger itself come from in the languages of Asia? And this is where we're very lucky to be able to draw on the expertise of Professor Nathan Hill, who did his PhD at Harvard University in 2009, then joined the School of Oriental and African Studies, where he was head of department, leader of an ERC grant, and a prolific publisher on the historical linguistics and related subjects of the languages of Asia. He edited, co-edited this book called The Evidential Systems of Tibetan Languages. And you can see here the table of contents that gives you an idea of the breadth of topics which get included in the subject like this. And in 2019, he authored another of his sole authored monographs and I've taken a random shot of the table of contents here or part of it that tells us about tight pre-initials and loose pre-initials. We'll have to ask about that at the end of the talk. He is currently the professor of Chinese studies at Trinity College Dublin and also the director of the Trinity Center for Asian Studies. So I would ask you to join me in welcoming him. And at the end of his talk, there will be an opportunity for questions. Please do not type your questions in the chat, but rather put them in the prescribed Q&A function. Thank you very much to all of you coming. Professor Hill, over to you. Well, thank you very much Martin for this kind introduction. And now I will share my presentation and we hope everything works well. Is this working? Yeah, okay. So yes, so I am going to tell you about the word for tiger. Let me just move this bar here. And this is on the screen in front of you, the character, the Chinese character for tiger in the oldest variety of the Chinese script that we have, the oracle bone inscriptions from the Shang dynasty, about 1250 BCE. And you see that it looks rather like a tiger, sort of turned on its side. Yeah. So just a second. Oh, and then here is the character, as you know, today in the traditional script. So that, you know, I don't know if you can see it or not, but that is historically continuous, especially as you write with a brush, then the rather than inscribe in a bone, the image has changed. So that's what the character looks like now about how it was pronounced. So it was, oops, I'm getting ahead of myself here. So in today's Mandarin Chinese, it's who in the third tone. And the first form of Chinese that we have systematically tested is from a dictionary from 602 that gives the pronunciation of thousands of different characters. It gives those pronunciations in other Chinese characters. So it takes some bit of interpreting to figure out what's going on. And I'm not going to describe that in any detail. But there is a way to romanize it where you're capturing exactly that information that's in this dictionary from 602. And I've written here the character, the character's pronunciation in a romanization system by a guy named Bill Baxter. So the capital X was a tone marker. So something like, not very different. That's the point. It's not very different from a standard Mandarin, something like who. But how is it pronounced back in the old days in old Chinese at the time when that first character was used? That's what I'm going to look at now. So the first thing we need to discuss then is just how is it possible to understand how old Chinese was pronounced at all? And so I'm just going to take you through the methodology for reconstructing old Chinese very quickly and in a kind of bird's eye view. So what do we need for a good old Chinese reconstruction? We need whatever pronunciation that the word had in old Chinese to predict in some sense the outcome in middle Chinese. There should be a systematic relationship between the earlier form of the language and the later form of the language. And also we want our reconstruction, our hypothesis of how the Chinese word was pronounced in the old days to explain the use of poetry. So if that doesn't happen, right? If we have a hypothesized pronunciation that doesn't lead to the rhymes coming out correctly, then that's an indication that there's something wrong with our hypothesis. And then also the Chinese characters themselves have phonetic information in them. And I will get to that in a minute. But you want your reconstruction to be consistent with the information that's in Chinese characters themselves. So I'm just going to sort of walk us through these three steps with the word for tiger. So first the development of old Chinese ah in middle Chinese. So we can distinguish two types of syllables in old Chinese. I won't be going into any detail about this. But we have type A syllables which are marked with this little symbol in the Baxter and Cigar reconstruction. And those in middle Chinese are not marked in any orthographic way. And there are type B syllables which are unmarked in old Chinese but have either start with a Y or have a J in them somewhere in middle Chinese. So here's are the developments. Our type A in old Chinese becomes O in middle Chinese. And here are some evidence of that, some early transcriptions. So the word Buddha in middle Chinese is something like Biu Du. And now we have a good reason to think that this Du actually was a Da in the old days. So in old Chinese it was probably Biu Da we think, which was a pretty good transcription for Buddha. But by middle Chinese it's Biu Du. Okay so that's the A to U change. And then we also have evidence and I should say this this Buddhist evidence is a little late. Yeah it's from the early Han dynasty. So it's kind of very late for old Chinese. But then we also have Sino-Tibet incognites which are super super old. You know even before old Chinese. And here we have evidence like the word for I, me in Chinese is in middle Chinese, Mu. But we think it's something like Nga in old Chinese. Why? Because Tibetan is Nga and in Burmese is Nga etc. So I hope I've proven to you that A in old Chinese changes to U. And this also helps explain rhymes in poems. So for instance here we have this poem Ode 234 stands at three. We are not rhinoceroses. We are not tigers. But we go along those wilds alas for us men on war service morning and evening. We have no leisure. So here we have a poem that uses the word tiger in a rhyme position. And we see it's Hu. And we say what does it rhyme with? And it rhymes with Ya and Pu and Ha. So I'm claiming that these all go back to A in old Chinese. And now that's it for the vowel. So how about this initial Hu? Where does it come from in old Chinese? So middle Chinese has many origins in old Chinese. And these include. And there's the last four I should say are in a western dialect of old Chinese. So I will go into some of this detail. This is where we need the structure of the Chinese script itself. So we're looking now at eight characters that use the word tiger as an indication of their pronunciation. And yet you see that in middle Chinese there are quite a few different pronunciations here. So if you're looking at it in this way you say I can't understand why they write all of these with the same phonetic. But we hopefully in a few minutes we'll understand. And I start with the easy ones. So basically I've already covered the vowels. And more or less I'm just back projecting the more simple initials. So for instance the initial K-H was a K-H. And then puh, paddolize to cha that you're seeing on the fourth one on the left. So this is our first pass at cleaning up the middle Chinese to make sense of this stuff in old Chinese. And then let's see. So now we're going to slightly forget about the ones on the right. They've done what they're going to do for us. And then I'll just point out that the real challenge here is this fourth one on the left. Because you have this tuh that seems totally unconnected. Everything else has some kind of ra in it. So how do we deal with that? And Baxter and Cigar's proposal is that you had a little prefix T in this word and then followed by shra. So I'm not claiming that's the gospel truth. But that's one solution. And now one thing you're seeing is just how we people who work on old Chinese phonology sort of lead our lives. Where you identify a problem like this and then you're coming up with proposed solutions. And then you play around and see how good those solutions are. So now it starts to look like the pronunciation in old Chinese of the word for tiger is shah. And that it came to middle Chinese via a Western dialect. And basically, you know, what I'm doing there is I'm choosing from among the many options that X could have been in old Chinese. Because I'm seeing that all of these characters that use tiger as a phonetic seem to have ra in them. And the only way to have a sound like ra and pronunciation with the X in middle Chinese is to reconstruct a voiceless ra. Okay, so so far so good. Yeah. But this is what Baxter and Cigar actually reconstruct. So this is sort of to put it one way at the end of you know, a class that I taught on Chinese historical linguistics. This is what I would expect students to do in their homework. But this is what the professionals actually do. And they've got lots of cues in there. And Martin will will he'll be very familiar with these cues. They're their uvular constants, like, like you get in in the word for the country. So why did they do this? That's the question that, you know, I asked myself. And the answer is because of min dialects. So the min dialects are spoken in the south, like Hokkien, which is spoken in Shaman, and also in Taiwan. And the min dialects are very conservative. Most Chinese dialects come directly from middle Chinese. But the min dialects come directly from old Chinese. So Baxter and Cigar have looked at the min dialects and the min dialects have Ks. Yeah, so so John Chen dialect pronounces Tiger as cool. And following a suggestion of Jerry Norman, they think that the way to reconcile these Ks in in the min dialect with the evidence of of what we've seen so far in terms of development to to an X in middle Chinese is to reconstruct this uvular consonant, the Q. Okay. But I'll just point out that this is not the only option. You can get Ks other ways. So here's a proposal. And I'm not saying I believe this, but maybe the root of all these words has the shah. And then you had a tight pre-initial in in the third word. So you have this K prefix in front of the shah. And then in the fourth word, you have the T prefix. And then you have a loose pre-initial. This is using machinery that Baxter and Cigar give us this loose versus tight pre-initial. So that by this account, the word for Tiger would be something like yeah. So, so just to, you know, make sure we're all on the same page here. What Baxter and Cigar actually propose is actually that's aspirated. I can't I'm not a phonetician. I'm not so great at these things. Yeah. But what I'm saying is even in their system, I think as far as I can tell, you could also reconstruct with the min forms descending from the version with the tight pre-initial. And it's very, very normal. I mean, I'm worried that some of you will try and you know, catch me out on a methodological area here, but it's very normal for some forms of Chinese to descend from the tight pre-initial form and some from the loose pre-initial form. So here what I'm saying is middle Chinese had a loose pre-initial and then min had a tight pre-initial. That's, you know, and again, I'm not necessarily trying to convince you of this, but I'm saying this is another option that as far as I can tell also works. And then it gives you a sense of maybe why or sort of how we go about reconstructing old Chinese. But let's look at what Axel Schussler says. So he's in the kind of same broad camp as Baxter and Cigar, but he doesn't agree with them about many things. And he reconstructs Tiger with an L-initial. So he says, is the word for Tiger. And he points to ancient dialect forms. Those of you who care, these are from the Fanyan, this early sort of book about different dialect pronunciations. So in this book, they say, okay, here they say Tiger this way, here they say Tiger this way. And it seems that, you know, I'll point out that Tiger was always a two-syllable word and that the evidence is at least consistent with a reconstruction with an L-initial. So that points to, let's all just pronounce them, you know, and Coloc as a different dialect pronunciations of Tiger. Let's say in the late war and states period, early Han, something like that. Okay. And Schussler points out that these, that his version can help explain connections with words for Tiger in other languages. For example, in Angkorian Khmer, the word for Tiger is Khla. And in Old Burmese, it's Khla.  So they kind of look like these other Southeast Asian forms. Oops. Okay. So now let's look at George Starrsten's opinion.  So he says there is no obvious connection between the regular Old Chinese form for Tiger, Khla, and the above dialect words. This is in a book review of Schussler's dictionary, which could easily have been from a duck instead of a hluck. Yeah. So Starrsten is basically saying that Schussler is too fast to connect these ancient dialect pronunciations to the attested, you know, word for Tiger that we have today. Maybe those dialects just have a different word for Tiger. And that that word started with a D rather than with an L. L's in the history of Chinese change into D. So this is a possible interpretation. Okay. So now you've seen the different schools of thought on how the word for Tiger was pronounced in Old Chinese. And now I just want to look at some we're looking now outside of China to the West and to the East. So in Japanese, the word for Tiger first attested in 702, which is kind of late, but that doesn't mean that the word is not old. You have Torah. Yeah. And then in Tibetan, the word is stuck. Now, maybe Torah and stuck don't look that similar to you, but they both have a T in them. And it's very normal for G's and R's to have a certain relationship is also very normal for us to change the O's. So the the you could imagine that the Japanese comes from something like Taga or duck. So if Japanese and Tibetan had similar words for Tiger, this must be somehow because they both got them from Chinese because, you know, Japanese and Tibetan were not in direct contact. And also, as far as I know, both countries don't have Tigers.  So we expect then the word for Tiger in Chinese to look more like these words. Yeah. And that's something that Beckwith and Kiyosei point out.  And I should just mention that Beckwith and Kiyosei are kind of out on a limb in terms of their, you know, everything I presented so far is kind of the orthodox school. So sort of the differences of opinion. Yes, there are differences of opinion, but within a certain range, whereas Beckwith and Kiyosei are seen as going way out on a limb. So a Chinese form such as ta from la could more or less account for the Tibetan or Japanese forms. If you see the Tibetan S as reflecting some kind of pre initial, but we would then need more secure understanding of the relative chronology of the loss of view viewers. What I'm trying to do here is kind of make them all fit together. So like, can we explain Beckwith and Kiyosei's view if we start from Baxter and Cigar? So we can almost do it, but there's a lot of loose ends. It's basically what I would say. And those involve the relative chronology of the loss of view viewers. We need to know when that happened. We need to know when the loss of voices resins, which are things like and also when we're the when we're the pre initials lost. So about the pre initial in Tibetan, which is S, right? If if Tibetans wanted to adapt a lone word, and so if we imagined that Chinese had a word like they could have borrowed as that's a perfectly legitimate Tibetan word, but they didn't. They have borrowed it as stuck. So that suggests that probably the Chinese word wasn't okay. So in other words, the Tibetan word suggests some kind of fricative fricatives or things like fun fun show, which make turbulent noise while you speak. So some kind of fricative in the donor. So let's say if we just go if we assume Tibetan comes from Chinese, we are looking for something like as the form in Chinese, but more research is needed. So the reason I chose this topic was of course, because it's the year of the tiger. But also in my 2019 book, when I came across this issue of how to reconstruct the word for tiger, I couldn't do it. So I am using this opportunity to familiarize you with how we go about reconstructing words in all Chinese. And then you see, you know, what kind of materials we have to work with, what kind of methods we use, what kind of hypotheses contend. But the truth is that when it comes to the word for tiger, at this point, I just have to throw up my hands. And thank you for listening. And hopefully, you know, one of you will say, well, you know, it's obvious that that of those different solutions, this is the one that you should use. So please, you know, tell me how how should I reconstruct the word for tiger in all Chinese. Okay. Okay, thank you. Yeah. Please join me in thanking Professor Hill. I'm sure that we'll have some questions in the Q&A. Could I just remind people, if you've put your question in the chat, please put it in the Q&A instead. While people are thinking, Professor Hill, can I just ask you, you've mentioned several different stages of Chinese, old Chinese, middle Chinese, modern Chinese, I guess. So in the world of the ancient Near East, when you go from one stage of a language to another stage of the language, it's very often because in the middle, you have sort of a gap or political turbulence, you know, you have the Middle Kingdom that speaks Middle Egyptian in Egypt, and then you have the intermediate period, and then you have the New Kingdom that speaks New Egyptian. What happens with Chinese? How sharp are these lines of demarcation? That's a good question. So, you know, it's old Chinese, let's say if we have to assign a date to it, we're aiming for 1250 BC. And then middle Chinese is 602. And that we can put a sharp, you know, 602, let's call it CE, and that we can put a sharp date on. So as you can imagine, a lot of politics and famine and population movement and all sorts of things happen in those almost 2000 years. So it's, so why do we call that the one old Chinese and the other middle Chinese? It's basically for epistemological reasons, yeah, which is that old Chinese, sorry, middle Chinese, 602, that is the first form of Chinese that we can kind of phonologically really sink our teeth into with a sense of security, because we have a dictionary that gives us, I don't know, six, seven thousand words and tells us how to pronounce all six or seven thousand. So that gives us one kind of epistemological firm point to stand on. And then you would say, well, okay, well, then why don't you just work slowly backwards from there? And I can't offer anything other than a sociological explanation, which is that the oldest form of a language is the most exciting form and the most culturally prestigious form. And in particular, the Book of Odes, which is about 350 poems and is from the Joe dynasty, so kind of not as far back as 1250 BC, but in that ballpark, gives us another not as firm, but fairly firm piece of phonological information in terms of these Orion poems. And then as I pointed out, the other third leg of old Chinese reconstruction is the phonetics implied by the structure of the characters themselves. Now, actually different characters were coined at different times, and that's a whole philological enterprise, but they were coined many of them as long ago as 1250 BC. So there's good reason to think that if you triangulate these three pieces of data, so the phonology implied by the script, the poems, the rhymes in the odes, and what you get where you really know you're on firm footing in 602, we presume that the object reconstructed with those three pieces of information is the Chinese of the Joe dynasty, if not the Shang dynasty, so kind of you may well say like, well, you shouldn't just jump over 1500 years and systematically look at, for example, how poetry rhymes during that period. And there has been some work in that area, but not nearly as much as there has been on the odes. I think because it's just less prestigious, less exciting, but actually there is a project at SOAS now that I'm involved in that's looking at Han dynasty rhyme behavior. So I do think that something that the field needs to do to advance is to kind of clean up that sort of, let's call it 1500 year place in between and another thing that's I think really important that is these early Buddhist transcriptions because those are as old as the second century AD. So we can cut sort of 400 years off and have something that we can fairly firmly stand on. I can't hear you. Oh, yes. One of the few things that most people know about the languages of Asia and Chinese especially is that many of them have tones. Is it known when in this story the tones come into being? Yeah. So I sort of, you know, didn't I sort of brushed over this, but the so six or two, they're definitely tones. And in Baxter's system, the hope I get this right, the high tone is written with a capital H and the and the other salient tone, the Chu Xiang is written with a capital X at the end of the word, right? And then and then the Ping Xiang, which is the sort of level tone is unmarked. And then the Ruxiang, which is the entering tone is is is is, you know, we linguists wouldn't see as a tone. We would just say it's a stop final syllable. So those are the four tones of Middle Chinese and and and it would be a sensible thing to ask, like, well, how are they pronounced or something like that? But we should just understand this is the book itself, the book that we rely on in 602 says there are four tones. These are the four tones. I'm marking the four tones. Yeah. Now, it's clear that the capital H tone was still an S in the early Buddhist transcriptions. So the so we can date very precisely that between 200 and 600 is when the tones were born. And also in that period, I think in the third century is the first time we have people actually discuss the fact that Chinese is tonal. And, you know, it could be, you know, random that they had had tones since Kingdom Come, but it just happens that this is when they were first discussed. But I do think that it's, you know, people, we have a lot of texts from China. So if the first time people discuss tones is in the third century, then it's probably when there were tones was the third century. Thank you. We have a question from Isabella Jackson, who says, thank you very much. And do we have more information about animals of the zodiac like tigers or other culturally significant items?  That's a good question. I haven't systematically gone through the animals of the zodiac. Because in my book, I was paying attention to words that existed in Tibetan Burmese and Chinese and tiger, a word that we think is related exists in Tibetan Burmese and Chinese. Whereas for many of the zodiac signs, the words don't seem to be related. And actually, in many cases, the Chinese word was just borrowed into other languages. But I would say that the word for sheep is pretty securely reconstructed and is young in all Chinese. The other ones I would have to check. Can I ask, how do you imagine people in Japan and people in Tibet borrowing a word for an animal that doesn't exist in their country and that they've probably never seen? No YouTube, no internet. So when people in Tibetan Japan were using this Chinese word for tiger, what was happening on the cultural level? Did they talk about them a lot? Did they visualize them? Did they have illustrations? What happened? I think it was probably something like they adopted the zodiac in order to count years. That's the first stab at it I would make. But I would say that the same thing happens in the West. Europeans are super into lions and they didn't have them. Not to mention things like dragons, which it's not really clear that anyone had. I've been thinking a lot, this is a whole other talk, but I've been thinking a lot about is the European dragon and the Chinese dragon, are they the same animal? I don't mean to dismiss the question, but I'm saying the processes we have for exploring these things methodologically are the same in the West as they would be in the East. And we can also see animals change over time, like the lion on its way from India to Japan turned into a dog. Oh, maybe you didn't know that, I guess. Another similar example is there's a male goddess, Avalokiteshvara, who on his way from India to China, I mean in China he changed into a woman at some point. So these things happen. Thank you. And this idea of having the traditional Chinese animals associated with the zodiac, how old is that? In China I have no idea, actually there are people on this call who could say better than I do. Let's say what I do know is the 10 days of the traditional Chinese week goes right back to the beginning, right back, like the very oldest things. And actually this is something we can be very proud of. You may have gotten to writing before us Martin, but the calendar has been in continuous use since 1250 BC until today in terms of sequence of days. Now I don't think they were using the, I think they use renal titles, actually like I even saw this just yesterday in English documents they did the same thing they said, you know, Henry the seventh year, five or something like that. So that's how they dated years in the Shang dynasty. I don't know when they switched to the zodiac, but I would say that the Tibetans had the zodiac basically, they also used this kind of renal year system, but they had the zodiac year system basically from the beginning, but from the beginning for them is 650 AD. Yeah. Thank you. There's also a question from Anna Bebrankova, which is thank you. In Sino-Tibetan historical linguistics, how early on in chronological terms, do we expect that languages or dialects of this family were experiencing any influence from other language families? Oh, that's a good question. I'm going to, let's say I have a whole another talk about the word for horse and actually that one is maybe better because I actually know how the word for horse was pronounced in all Chinese. And I think and my co-authors think that the word for horse is a borrowing from Indo-Aryan, from proto-Indo-Aryan. And we know that the for our unarchaeological grounds, for instance the technology of the chariot is a characteristically Indo-European technology that hit China around the time that they got the alphabet. And actually, I mean, I'll be really scandalous here because I can get away with it since it's, you know, because of the format. I think that they got writing from the the ancient Near East via the Indo-Aryans and along with the whole horse and chariot complex. So that's the earliest loan I know of into Chinese. Now, the thing that's hard is like as you know, the Chinese speaking population sort of expanded from, you know, from where it was in Yinshu to where it is now and displaced lots of other languages in on that journey, especially Hmong Nian languages and Austro-Aziatic languages. So it seems extremely likely that there are ancient Hmong Nian and Austro-Aziatic words in Chinese. But the state of Hmong Nian and Austro-Aziatic linguistics is not super advanced. And there are a lot of borrowings in the other direction as well. So sort of weeding apart, you know, who loaned what, who went for things like rice, very difficult. But actually, rice actually tea is a good candidate. We know tea is from a Tibetan word for leaf. But it's quite a late loan. Yeah. So I think horse is, I'm going to say horse is as old as I'm willing to go. And it was already there in 1250 BC. Thank you very much. I don't see any more questions in the Q&A. So shall we thank our speaker and draw to a close? Okay.  So I hope it wasn't too bad.


G'day, welcome to my channel Butlosophy and my name is Tech. I acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land that I live and work on, the Wajik people of Nungabuja. Now today I'm going to review these Parkhurst Niagara boots that I bought in October 2022. Let's see what I think after nearly six months of wear. This is Parkhurst's Mokto boot, the Niagara. I bought this pair in October 2022 through a group MTO organised by fellow Parkhurst enthusiast Jace Hodges. He's classic.jace.65 on Instagram. You can check out my unboxing video up here. As you can see it's an old and indie like design, a dressy toe box, not the high wall toe boxes of the work boots style Moktoes like Farragut Moktoes or Red Wings 875 classic Moktoes or even Grant Stone's brass Moktoe. I'll go into it when I go through the construction but the Moktoe is not a real Moktoe in that this stitch is cosmetic and does not stitch the two pieces of leather together. This is a special design in fact designed by the said Jace Hodges and Andrew the owner of Parkhurst agreed to make it for a group MTO. I think Andrew eventually made some for stock but they have since sold out. Parkhurst does make other Niagara models in rugged leathers like Wax Swayed on the Commando sole and I think intend to bring this makeup back. The difference in this model from the other Niagara models is that they are built in French Navy blue calf and are on a leather sole. The French Navy refers to the colour not the tannery location. It's not as dark as regular navy blue in fact it's slightly smoky grey. The design is of a casual boot but with a very dressy background. And so what would you wear it with? I think that all leans towards the dressy casual. I mean I don't think you'd want to try to wear this with work pants and maybe not even t-shirts on their own. To me they are either better suited for a dressy casual or a business casual outfit. I mean certainly you can wear it with jeans but I think torn or very faded jeans are out and my preference would be towards dark denim or darker fades. Jeans that you could wear with button downs or button up shirts and maybe match with a sports coat or a dressy leather jacket or dark bomber jacket. You can try it with a t-shirt or a henley but I'd want to throw on a dressy jumper or some sort of darker jacket. The business casual side of things would work with earth coloured or neutral chinos and pants, you know, browns, dark greens, black, blue. As business casual you'd probably finish that outfit off with a dressy button up shirt and a blazer. Now for those of you who know about Parkhurst, bear with me, I'm going to take a minute to talk to the others about this brand. Parkhurst was founded as a direct to consumer brand producing limited run boots by Andrew Savisco in Buffalo, New York in 2018. He started with a simple goal to build a quality boot with sole and that sole should take the form of combining refined with rugged. The refined comes from the lasts that Andrew designed. A last for those of you who don't know is the foot shape mould around which shoes and boots are constructed. Andrew first designed his 18 last then modified it making it less almond toed into the 602 last and now he has the modified version of the 602 last. Built on these sleek shaped low profile lasts, Parkhurst made dressy shaped plain toe and cap toe boots. The rugged part of that sole comes from the leathers that Andrew chooses. So in the past he's used chrome pack mousse, Stead's kudu leather and mohawk leathers and tough leathers from Seidel. I'm on record as saying I love Parkhurst's aesthetic and with that combination of refined and rugged I have been known to ask why one needed Weiberg. But that's a story for another day. Another goal of Andrew's was to build the boot in the US and use as many US components or at least use US suppliers who bought the items he needed from overseas thus giving American suppliers a lifeline. As an Australian I'm obviously not passionate about made in USA and I think most other nationalities are not as passionate about where their boots are made other than a natural desire to support and admire local manufacturers. The made in USA thing is much more of a passion amongst Americans and one of the reasons is of course that us boot collectors tend to congregate around these American service and work boot models and makers. The trend in boot collecting is toward the American heritage and culture and history of these American boots. So I can understand the passion of made in USA even if I'm more blasé about it and ready to buy a boot in a style I like for the quality of its manufacture and not just for the source. That's a way to start to explain that the COVID years were not kind to Parkhurst because of the US supply chains. The suppliers that Andrew partnered with started to be unable to supply items. Even the factory he used drastically cut production and eventually shut down for good. Parkhurst fans will remember a year to I guess almost 18 months when there was literally no product shown on Parkhurst's website and for a small direct to consumer brand that basically spells trouble. Eventually Andrew was able to find a Spanish factory to build his boots but still using as many US products like uppers from famed US tanneries and bends leather for mid-soles and outsoles. When I was writing my review of the Caswell Lisbon boot, Caswell's owner Kevin Wilson who also started using the same factory told me of the difficulty he had in reclaiming his lasts when the factory closed. I don't know if that's what happened to Andrew but as Parkhurst moved from that factory to Spain he designed and made a new 602M for modified last and maybe he had to. At any rate the Spanish factory that Andrew now uses is an experienced multi-generational business and he believes that they share the same labour and quality values as he does. At the same time he has also acquired a partner tannerie in Spain that produces articles like veg tan, wax suede and hot stuff leathers that are almost proprietary to Parkhurst. This supplements the leathers he purchases from American tanneries like Seidel and UK tanneries like Charles Astead. Parkhurst does not name the Spanish factory but for the conspiracy theorists amongst you this is not unusual. Many smaller Spanish and Italian shoe factories make footwear for multiple brands including some very big names and they contractually can't say who they make boots and shoes for. So the smaller brands that are made at the same factory are also contractually bound in NDAs, non-disclosure agreements, not to name the factory. Although not completely devoid of supply chain problems, finally the Parkhurst website is filling up with new drops and restocks. Oh by the way Parkhurst has also started to produce a line of women's boots so the women who watch my channel all 0.7% of you go check it out. Ok so in moving to construction we'll obviously also take a look at quality, particularly in respect to this pair being made in the Spanish factory in what I believe to be Spanish tanned calf skin. But before I start don't forget to click on like and subscribe. Ok now you know the drill I'm going to start from the bottom and move my way up. At the base is a leather sole. It's about 4 or 5mm thick. It is a full length sole and at the heel base is built up with real leather stacks, a rubber lift and then a rubber top lift with a rubber mitered insert. This leather sole is in my opinion a smidge harder than those on Grantstone boots. They seem to take more wear without showing it.  The sole is attached to the uppers using Goodyear welter construction. Check out the details in my video up here. Briefly a leather welt is run around the perimeter of the boot, the inside of it is sewn to the uppers on the inside and the outside edge is sewn onto the sole. Goodyear welting is popularly gold standard because you can re-sole the boot and it provides a more water resistant performance. That water resistance is increased here by a split reverse welt which splits the welt halfway, flanges the outside half up against the uppers forming a lip against water. Now I've always called this a split reverse welt and differentiated it from a storm welt which I learned was a welt where the lip was a ridge carved into the leather strip. I've since discovered that many English boot makers call the split reverse welt a storm welt and they call that welt with the carved lip a barber welt after the company that makes them. Just a tidbit for interest and to show you that there are a lot of things in naming boot components that is kind of made up by the people who use the terms. Anyway looking inside the floor of the boot on top of the leather sole is a 4mm thick leather midsole. Now that 4mm thick welt going around the edge on the outside is also going to create a 4mm thick cavity inside. In these boots that cavity is filled with the traditional cork into which a steel shank is inserted and then on top of all of that is a leather insole. On top of that the heel is a leather heel sock liner for comfort and shock absorption. This one has the Parkhurst logo printed in gold I'm hoping you can see this. The uppers are fully lined on the inside with a soft veg tent calf skin, a departure from other Parkhurst models which are generally lined in the vamp but unlined in the shaft. The tongue is also lined and it's a semi-gusseted tongue where it's gusseted up to the final eyelet. Useful for more water resistance and to stop the tongue sliding around. The toes are structured with celastic that's a thermoplastic that's used to structure the toe and keep its shape. The heel counter is leather and it's tucked in on the inside and covered not only by the lining but also by a suede heel cup to grip your socks at the back. That's a very nice touch. There are five brass eyelets and three brass speed hooks. These thin round blue laces come with the boots and take a bit of getting used to aesthetically. At first they seem too thin but after a while you get used to it and they look just you know just right dressy. The collar and the lace edgings are rolled so there's no raw leather edge there that's another nice touch. Now let's take a closer look at these uppers. As I said it's a French navy calfskin from I believe a Spanish tannery that's soft and supple. It does crease a little more than say the calfskin or yearling on a pair of RM Williams but probably about the same as some calfskin dress shoes. It looks to me like a slightly corrected full grain leather not particularly oily but pigmented to take that really nice shade of navy. It's a good enough leather but I'm not sure I can rave about it. There are basically four panels being the two quarters the vamp and this little back strip. The stitching down into the welt is neat at the inside edge it's invisible so it's a hundred percent better than Parker's original rugged welts. The stitching on the uppers is extremely neat and even at the quarters there's triple stitched but single stitch almost everywhere else. The stitch at the mocktoe is cosmetic but before I talk about that a little explanation about mocktoes. Mocktoe is short for moccasin toe a moccasin of course are the shoes made by the first nations people in North America and are those one piece leathers that wrap around the foot and is then topped by the apron at the vamp and sewn on the sides. Just think of moccasin slip-ons or slippers that you get from other makers like Rancourt or you know some bedroom slippers from Target. In many mocktoe boots like the Tharigut or the Redwing Mocktoes they have high sidewalls to give you room when you're working and twisting around. These clearly don't have high sidewalls and yes they are like the olden indies and in these they have the same cosmetic stitch. The stitch does not join a sidewall to the apron piece unlike I think Grandstone's brass boot, check my review, or their Norwegian split toe Ottawa boot. I don't think these stitches are hand sewn they don't need to be because they don't pucker up the leather between the stitch lines. Overall the quality is really good with some nice touches in construction and some real improvements from the more rugged old models. The leather is not an especially oily leather so I think leather care would be the same that you use for other smooth pigmented full grain leathers. Rule number one is of course always keep it clean meaning brush it regularly. Best shoe makers like Trickus say to brush your shoes every three wears and polish every five to six wears. I'm not sure I'd be so anal about it but I would brush it with a good quality horse hair brush regularly whatever regular means to you in the number of wears that you have in a week or a month. Just keep the dirt and dust off the leather and especially off the welt. In my view the best conditioner for this leather would be Venetian shoe cream. I've never used Saphir but I guess you could. An optional step after conditioning is to apply a cream polish. A neutral cream polish put on top of the conditioner allowed to dry to a haze and then brushed out and finished with a polishing cloth can give this a shine if that's what you're after. You can use a matching blue cream polish but if you do be very careful applying it on top of the white mock-toe stitching. I usually avoid wax polishes but in this case every now and then I would put a very thin smear of neutral wax polish at the end of my conditioning regime just to give it a light waxy protection from the elements. Now let's look at sizing. Parkhurst is said to run large and not many of their boots have wide lasts. This is because the 602 and this 602M last are combination lasts in that they start as a narrow width in the heel and the waist and open to an e-width in the ball of the foot. In sizing terms I take a half size down from my Brannock size.  Don't rely on your sneaker size or the wear your usual dress shoe size. Then once you know your true size Parkhurst will fit the majority of feet at a half down from true. On my feet the 602 lasts are almost perfect but I do know people where the Parkhurst last just isn't suitable for their feet and the lack of wide widths does make it hard. If you're in any doubt don't ask me. Contact Andrew at the email on his website. Give him some examples of common boots and shoes that you wear and what sizes you take them in and Andrew will help you. He is one of the most helpful and decent men in this game. As for comfort, if you get your size right these are downright comfortable from the get go. The calf skin is supple. The skiving of the leather pieces and so on don't create hard spots or thick lines and the leather coat leather sole is super comfy at least for me. The thick leather sole layers were initially stiff when I walked and flexed my feet at the ball but they loosened up quickly. In six months of regular but not particularly frequent wear after I broke them in I can feel the sole molding to my feet and the up is becoming softer and softer. Arch support is good, shock absorption is good. As to value, for the Group MTL these cost US $438. Most Parker's models sell for the mid to high $300. So this was an exception. The iconic Spruce Kudu Allen boot that I reviewed up there is $388. And you can see why these are more in the calf skin uppers being fully lined and the leather outsole. I can't remember how much they were when they briefly came on as stock boots but probably about the same. In terms of value I think they're close to the limit when compared to the other Parker's boots but I take in mind the fact that maybe as a Group MTO order quantities would have been smaller. So would have cost Parker's more to make. And that price gives us owners of this boot after all a slight uniqueness value. For that I'm not complaining especially if I compare them to old and indies in their various make-ups at the US $600 mark. More leather in here. But maybe less structural comfort than the indies but I'd still compare them favorably. So are they worth it on the edge? Would I buy them again? Yes, but only after a long think about it. And there's your review. In summary, good quality, well made, good last for my feet and an improvement in some areas from the New York factory. On the con side maybe at the edge of what I would pay for it and maybe the leather could be more impressive. Well, I hope you found this review informative. If you did, you know what to do. Click on like and if you haven't already, click on subscribe. I'll have reviews of some of my Truman boots coming up along with a long-term review of the Helm Zind Black Boot as well as a few best of videos. So don't miss them, click on subscribe. Until then, mostly guys, 0.7% gals. Take care and I'll see you soon.


Ryan Ettinger, a merchandiser from AGT Foods, and Ryan grew up on a farm in McIntosh, South Dakota and attended Dickinson State. And he's been with AGT Foods as the merchandiser and hit of grain procurement for 11 years. And he's also currently farming wheat, pea and soybean. Thank you very much. Thanks, Audrey, for putting this together. It's nice to be back in person versus doing it virtual. I always enjoy coming to meetings and in trade shows where you can visit with the growers and in person. So it's kind of long overdue on my end. I want to give you a little rundown of our company, kind of where it all started, trends of where the markets are heading. Also, just kind of give a rundown of some of the exciting products that are coming out of the the pulses here out of our MyNotNorth photo plan. So AGT is a company formed in Regina, Saskatchewan, Morad, El Petit. First plant was in Regina, the main plant there did split red lentils, does yellow peas, green peas, also whole lentils. We have railway in Saskatchewan where we do bulk lentils, peas, durum, canola. Our MyNotNorth Dakota facility, that's our fractionation plant. So that's the one that's making all the pea proteins, texturized, pulse proteins. I gave everybody here a box of pasta that we're making at our MyNotPlan made out of one ingredient, ELPs. We also have our Bell Group in Turkey. They make pasta over there out of durum, bulgur out of wheat. So we have our South Africa plants. They do some popcorn and in different quantities there and 40 plants worldwide, six key agricultural production areas. And in the US here we have the Williston plant and then the MyNotNorth Dakota plant. Different products, kind of the key products. The core of business is lentils and peas. So red, green, yellow, lentils, yellow, green peas, whole end split, chickpeas, we get into the coolies, the desi's, B90 variety. We have a bean plant, St. Joseph Manitoba where we do kidneys, pentose, blacks. We do the billed durum in Turkey and several different commodities in Canada. We do a lot of durum, canola, flax and a lot of different fault-loaded plants up there. We have just opened the Delisle Suspension plant, bean plant there where they grow about 110 car unit trees. Food ingredients primarily in MyNotNorth Dakota. Flowers, protein, starches derived from peas, lentils, chickpeas. And we also have a packaged food division called AGT Quick and that is in Canada. So in 2012-13 we invested in an ingredient platform and basically the whole vision was for food grade but after 2013 when we put the pea protein lines in the pet food market was taken off. So in 2013 June we completed our first line for pea protein. We completed the second line in May of 2014 and we saw the pet food market just continue to grow. It was growing at a rapid pace and that was the core of our business at that time. 2015 third line completed and then we saw a decline in the pet food pea protein in about 17-18. I think 2018 was about when it kind of went downhill. DCM was a big issue that came about. It's a large hard condition in pets. Basically what happened was FDA said a couple dogs could get enlarged charts and they got the DCM and they died and traced it back to grain-free pet foods. So we didn't find any science to back it but at the end of the day once it gets on social media the consumer just kind of halts buying that brand of pet food. The good thing is in that time frame we were very active in with food companies doing different trials. You can see the pasta here that just doesn't happen overnight. That takes four to five years to produce an ingredient or a food product like that and there's several more down the line which I'll get into here shortly. So the veggie pasta one ingredient which many of the consumers like if you want to know that there's no other additives in there it's gluten-free, non-GMO, all the peas that we we get here are North American growing and processed in mine. An overview of pulses of why they are so important, key part of nutrition. You can take a look at at the protein levels. There are high protein source, high dietary fiber, low fat and that's what a lot of the the markets are looking for. Like Scott said in India a lot of the vegans over there the population continues to grow. They're all vegan based diets so that's where all of these fit in and domestically we're seeing products like this and food companies coming in looking for more and more pulse ingredients to put into different food applications. For launches of pulse ingredients you can see how the pet food kind of is stabilized but since 2015 7500 of the launches you know of the human foods and you get into 2019 that's well over probably about 9500. So the pet food is kind of stabilized as far as new launches maybe declined in 2020-21 but as you look at at the food that's where the growth is and we feel will continue to be. So dynamics of where the market is 2050 global population expected to rise 30% to over 9 billion. You can take a look at the Asia Pacific like the growth there is going to be big. We're going to have to grow a lot more pulses, grains to feed the world it's just where we're headed with the increased population worldwide. So all the new markets you take a look at Europe, North America, China 2020 I know China they were in for a lot of the LPs which would lead to a lot of North American stocks and you take a look at how pulses fit in the rotation throughout this area Eastern Montana. It's a key part of our rotations out here and I think going forward the growth in the fall sector is going to only continue to grow. Start with the yellow peas here on the market outlook we'll get into production first. The pea production this year with the big drought throughout North America last year we had about 980,000 metric ton of peas and at the beginning of the year 2020 I didn't think that we're going to be able to move peas like 2020 harvest we're 350, 375 official on yellow peas. China came in they bought a lot from Canada when they're done buying from Canada they bought from the US and completed a lot of our stocks along with USDA tenders. So this year's production 550,000 metric ton at harvest this year USDA came in and just bought 50,000 metric ton of yellow split peas so that drove the market up to some pretty good levels to where we are now but the production is down straight across the board I think we're down 430,000 metric ton from the 970,000 acres and lowest production since 2012. Well it's kind of the same thing lowest production since 2014 chickpeas lowest since 2015. So the drought was not a small area it was all of Saskatchewan and we're still drying beneath these parts which is still a bit concerning. Canada falls production take a look at where they were from 2020 to 2021 same deal I mean we're dealing with lower stocks almost cut in half on peas, lentils down about a million metric ton and then chickpeas are down significantly as well. Yellow pea markets so the export markets for North American peas right now really not very active at all. We're kind of priced out of the market Ukraine's offered for 60 to 80 dollars metric ton less so everybody's going to go to Ukraine and buy as much peas as they can versus come to North America. The one thing that we have for us right now is the food ingredients sector and the USDA genders that's what's been holding up the LAP price. Canada's haven't been as active in September or October but that August one completed quite a few stocks in the PL 480 program they've got to be US origin peas so can't buy from Canada can't buy from anywhere else they've got to be US origin. We're the highest price in the world right now just due to that and we're unattractive to the export market but what will kind of hinge on the LAPs going forward is going to be I think PL 480 and ingredients are going to stay strong. So if we get another tender out there of any significant quantity I could see these make a little runny. 2021 crop I would say the least 65-70 percent small we got prices right now 15-50 of bushel historically that's right near the top of the market so the price summit that range and if there's a tender that comes along that those levels a little higher I'd be moving some more. Fertilizer costs are going to be well they already are insane so I'm looking at acres for 2022 definitely going to be up acres are going to be up on pulses soybeans out here especially in the eastern Montana there's a lot of lentils there's a lot of peas and it may not be a bad idea to put some big crops right now we're $11 on new crop yellow peas so back to God so price I'm in that range just is not probably a bad idea considering where the market could go there's so many so many variables out there with the weather you don't know with the moisture situation what's going to happen there but I'd still price them in to get get a little bit locked in. Green pea market been getting a lot of calls why are green peas lower than yellows well USDA really was active in the yellows not active at all in the green pea market export markets right now not really buying a lot we're $13.75 on old crop and we don't have a new crop price held there yet but historically looking at $13 $13.75 range still get price on green peas we're just the same thing with yellows we're too high in the export market I'd price at least half of them right now $13.50 $13.75 range is not that price and look for new crop contracts here as they come out little market not not very active now February or December that price drove out there India was a big buyer and we still have I think they'll be back in the market here in November December but they just are not buying they're buying hand them out and that's the trouble they're not buying big volumes they're buying enough to cover for short term when you get given situations like that the price really doesn't run although they are buying at the at the levels of mid 40s right which is not a bad price so for the October December shipping we're seeing the man about 25 percent of what's normal from export customers and just due to the price is too high and they don't want to buy send themselves out and get stuck with a bunch of high price levels I'd sell at least you know 65 percent of your of your old crop just look for some new crop I don't have a new crop well price as of yet but I would expect them to be rather attractive once they do come out chickpea market held up over production of chickpeas 2018-2019 we had a we had some big volumes of chickpeas if the turd guys from growing them just based upon well pricing the teens guys main comments were we're not putting them in they're two to three applications a fun aside for 18 cents it's not doesn't bash well for me totally understandable but now we're the difference a little different dynamic with with the drill we have you know us candidate didn't have much of a crop you think all of you know turkey and india had some racks so we are not looking at a big world supply chickpeas and I think they may be an attractive drop here for this next year still same thing was kind of sound like a broken record but the demand on the export market right now isn't that strong we have been buying some chickpeas for 50 per hour in the lineup at 45 46 cents per pound so pretty good numbers there I think we'll have some new drop pricing out rather soon I'd say probably in that november december time frame I expect some decent values there too I'd be at least 50 percent sold if you get something that's 40 good 40 one last crop I want to talk about and it fits in this area to a certain extent on this year with the dry conditions it is it is a little tough to want to go out and try a new crop but you have irrigation anything like some heavy soil that's out in trouble with rudder or something like that this would fit in pretty good that's well the heavier soils the age of six and a half to nine it's all it's three to five feet tall and kind of 13 inches or it's kind of where the pot set is so you're not cutting right on the ground it put probably means put a lot of nitrogen back in the ground there's the highest fixing crop of uh for a lagoon crop then crop they fix 30 more than these and I think we can get a 50 bushel crop I think they said somewhere in that 40 to 50 pounds advantage can put back in the soil with fertilizer cost that's a that's a good option main markets are fractionation we have a lot of customers coming in now looking for this we we started on the father beans and I took a risk three years ago or four years we had a lot of the a lot of the customers looking at it but they never wanted to buy it they want to put it in their food applications they liked it because it was a high protein source higher than these 29 30 protein but yet they didn't really is all a labeling position they didn't know how the consumers react father beans it's not that well known well now that they've we've tested it out in our new app and brought some food customers and they really like functionality of it so I think there's a the market's going to grow on this one and it's it's more adapted to the north and probably north central north to the northeast the one thing is the allergens in it so soybeans if you have anything with soybeans or anything like that to where there's any contamination it probably would be a good fit but birth hold birds all seed and bird hole is handling the seed for us we have the favela variety it's a low bi-seed convice seeding variety high protein variety so it is a it is a good option and we should have some contracts out within the next week on that so opportunities and challenges I think the protein plant-based protein they're not going to go any way away anytime soon I mean we're going to be looking at that into the food sector it's growing and I think it'll continue to grow over the next several years r&d groups I mean we've had countless food companies in our r&d lab with Dr. Mehmet Tolbeck in our Saskatchewan or Saskatoon lab he's been doing a lot of r&d with a lot of food companies and doing functionality trials so I think we're going to be we're going to be seeing this thing grow continually one challenge that we're starting to see from some of them they're just like Scott said they're testing for glyphosate, paraquat, other chemicals we have some companies that require yellow peas they want the paraquat test done right away if there's any detection at all they don't want anything to do with it same with glyphosate so it's a challenge for farmers because it's a great option for a burn down or for a harvest aid yeah we're seeing some resistance from customers on that so is that more just the guys aren't waiting the seven days to harvest or that's they don't want it at all no you know that's it's sometimes drift you can even see it in drift like there'd be guys that say hey I've never sprayed that before but maybe my neighbor did and there's drift or even waiting the seven days you still get residual so what do they want farmers to do then exactly yeah kill the crop yep that's what we're doing that's what we're telling them but do you have people swathing or no not much there's some in Canada that that happens but not not down here it is an option but yeah yellow peas is primarily where it's at and we get guys that don't desiccate yellow peas but when you get into lentils you get into chickpeas that's where we're telling them really no other way then yeah yeah exactly so it is a it's a big challenge in front of us and it's not everybody but there are specific customers where we get a ip put it in a different band and run it for them so that's one challenge you can see and we just basically what we do is we check with the grower it's not right now it's not the huge huge volumes every you know every month we're looking for some but it's not to the point where we're dealing with thousands and thousands of tons of it but something to watch down the road I would market at increments I know I've been getting a lot of calls where's the high kind of like Durham here how many about a month or two ago where's the high on Durham well it's also when they went to no bid how that worked out and it was panic time but marketed increments I think is still your best your best option we deal with cash flows on your farm make a sale won't sell at all sell quarter third whatever whatever works for our cash flow in that period of time you need it provide your processor for the with a representative sample of each band it's it's truly important to us and truly important to our customers if we're buying based off of a spec when we get something completely different it uh it does create problems for everyone so being forthright and getting the samples as a key part of it uh this is more geared towards our mineout plant clean out harvest equipment trailers um I guess both plants it is but with soybeans I guess is what I'm I'm alluding to soybeans can cause a big problem when we're making pea protein and we're making bobbled bean protein chickens uh chicken flour as well so if you're cleaning stuff out thoroughly it's very important because it is food grade there's a reason they're buying peas because they're substituting out of something else and we're we've got testing so good anymore we're down to parts per million and parts per billion so as we're testing our flour we'll find that and then you know it doesn't work for the customer so it's very important in order to to clean out stuff as good as you can and make sure you don't have any issues one last thing I'd like to bring up is ordering pulse all your crop are all seed and you're inoculant early we're looking at supply chain issues everywhere we go and talking to different seed suppliers some of them don't even have price on yet but I would for sure order early and early I mean probably November and in the early December because after the first year I'm here and it could be tough to get specific varieties


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over guys. We need to move like a robot so that it looks normal. It is Tuesday night. We are live and this is going to be absolutely epic. We have some major players in the house tonight. We are going to have a I guess a challenge if you want to call it that and I'm so excited. So let me introduce all of these guys that I have behind me. So I wanted to tell us if you're new to our channel please it's not always this crazy and this hectic but tonight buckle your seatbelts because here we go. Alright so I wanted to tell us our k3 designs and with me is Erica Thornton. Oh I have a new last name. Did you get married? I did. It's true. I'm Erica with ATD. My husband is filming for us on our channel Art of Still Death. Please subscribe. We do art every day. We do always mostly resin and we'd love to have you guys. We also have Clara with Clara Lawrence Art. Clara Lawrence Art also on the channel and these are my buddies. These are the people I hang out with and guys I'm so excited. I can't even tell you how excited I am. We have Mitch Quist, Spirit Fingers, and I'm thrilled. Guys I'm so proud and happy to be here in part of the rk3 team. A family here at rk3 designs working. I'm here for my hands-on training class. It's going to be legendary the pro class but today it's going to get wild and crazy and we're going to make some I don't even know what colors we're making. We're about to pick what we're doing. It's going to be epic.  They're amazing. They do super good work. They're way better at this stuff than I am. Lies. That's right. Okay. So we got this. We got this. So what we've done because we have everybody and we are all so diversified in the type of art that our fans do that we do. We decided to challenge each other. So this is what we've done. So we have added colors to a bucket. We have a bucket that has color paste with different colors in it. We have a color bucket with spray paint with different colors and we have a color of the mica powder. Alrighty. We each have to choose one out of each bucket. All right. Now these are free for all. We can use as much or none of these. One of our free for all colors is bright gold from just resin. Then we have brown, black, and white opaque dye. We each have a spray bottle of plain alcohol, isopropyl alcohol and then we also have free choice of some various colors of mica I'll never get it. Those are all free choice. So what we're going to do is never get it. Choose one from each bucket. So here we go. We have no idea and then we have to come up with something in the next 30 minutes and then you guys are going to choose the winner. What do we win? I don't know. What do we win? I don't know. I don't know. High five. High five. All right. So here we go. I'm out. Let's do this. Let's do this. I tried to stack the deck but they mix it up. Just resin, midnight blue. Midnight blue. That's a good color. That's a good color. That's a good color. I'm very upset. They're only in there one at a time. Dark bronze stone coat. You're doing blues and browns. That's going to look awesome. I don't know what he's getting because it's hard to hear him. Okay. So the colors that he chose are the hammered brown spray paint. All right. And then he's going to have the midnight blue from just resin. It's a paste color and then the stone coat dark bronze mica powder. All right. I'll go get mixed. Okay. The brown powder is on the table and then how does everybody sound? Can you guys hear everybody? All right. I'm not reaching over that. All right. Well, I saw on the top. I saw you, Pete. I know. Color passion. You got a color passion. I did. I'm sorry. Hey, there's lots more in there. You know there is dark brown. What is it? Right down what? Yeah, dark brown. All right. Mystic moss. This is interesting. Dark stormy. Mystic moss. Okay. Green, brown and dark. Okay. All right. Eric, it's your turn. I'm scared. Please do something good. Please do something. Huh? Cherry. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. You got cherry. Please don't be yellow. Burgundy. I think she rigged it. Did I though? Burgundy paint. Spray paint. Yeah. Diamond dust. Okay. Here it goes. Is that what you get? She got, she got, uh, Burgundy spray paint. Cherry, uh, color spray paint. Come on. I don't know what word that, but 10, look at that. Thank you. Where's your colors? I got browns. I got browns. I got browns. You won't rest in my wedding. You have to love it. I think we're on that. Pull your spray paint already. All right. Everybody, how is the live doing? Can you hear everyone okay? Does everything look good? Big Mitchell. How are we doing? I'm doing so good. I never use this just for nothing, but good things about it. I'll tell you exactly. Midnight blue. Okay. All right. I got blues and browns. Yeah, you've been doing a lot of blues and browns right too. I don't know. I have the one that's got the goal on the back. Okay. The goal on the back. Cause you're real loud and everybody else is very… Okay, I'll just… You mean I gotta pick up my volume? They should be able to hear everybody. All right. Here we go. Do you want me to turn it off and see? Mitch doesn't have a mic. All right. So guys. Yeah, it is. We are trying to add mics. We don't have anyone right now. We're just getting straight out of there. Right. So we're going to bear with them. Okay. How can it be announced? Can we are TBA on that question? Avalon. Where's the Avalon? Avalonyshell? That's Resinart Avalonny. That's like the best thing ever. You got Avalonny? She did. Oh, wait a minute. Did she diamond dust too? I got diamond dust. Okay. Working away and making some cool projects. Yeah. Loot flew out all the way. Hawaii. We are super excited to have a look here. Oh, good. Glad everybody can hear it. Okay. Well, luckily you don't need to hear a whole lot. Everybody is just mixing and mixing. Listen, Clara. I hate to break it to you, but I'm going to win. So just put that in your brain. Sorry. So it's 10% is usually good. I always overload my colors, but it's unlike acrylic paint. If you overload, it's not going to set off your resin. It's hard to overdo it. You cannot overdo it.  Okay. Can I do a redo? No. Negative. You'll be fine. Who's got the worst colors of the day so far? I guess blue and abalone. Abalone. Yes. Abalone is amazing. Is it green? No. Diamond dust. It's like diamond dust, but rainbow sparkles instead of silver. Okay. And in the unicorn. Unicorn. Very unicorn-y. Shoot. What are y'all doing? Can I cheat? Oh, hey, Mitch. One of the people watching said... All I can do is a marble. So... Oh, right on. Yeah. Just have another breath. You have the black one. No charge. I just get light on. Yes, you're bright. That sounds like a pretty good deal. Next, I need one. Where are we located? Stone Coat HQ is in... Grand Stas or... Oregon. South Texas. New Texas is one of the best hands-on training classes in all of the United States. It's all the world. The world. What is the chance of being noticed about a boxy... What is that? This is Cherry. Get out to one of our classes. Check out our website. It's the deepest. It's like a translucent... Ruby Red. I love this color. Intentionally. Alright, dude. Oh, are you? Okay. Alright. Here we go. I'm trying not to. Yeah, you're good. Alright, so I'm going in with brown opaque dye. Here. I'm going to do it. They can hear you whispering on. That's how loud you are. I don't know what to do about that. Yeah. Let me take it off. He said to be announced. They're not... Alright, so brown. It's not in the... What's the question? The tour? Artists summit. Are the artisans on it? To be... TBD. I still have my credit from Southwest Maryland. So... Soon, hopefully. So this is what cherry looks like in resin. Look at that cherry. It's like a melted red jelly rancher. Oh, yeah. So I think you cheated. Did I, though? I think you cheated as you get those in the first place. I don't think so. I mean, those cherries. Alright. We got Avalone inside. Yeah, Avalone. Look at that. Is that what that is? Yes. Wait till it's in resin. It's brilliant. It's pretty cool. Here we go. I don't know how you can be mad at that. Can't. A little bum that I got too brown. Why? Well... You can hack that, though. All you have to do... Can't ever go wrong with brown. Yeah. You can do mostly Avalone? Can you show this Avalone? Right? Yes. You can never go wrong with brown. Look. Isn't that beautiful? So that's that Avalone. Yes. Ooh. Yes. So right now, that's available on the Artists Till Death website. But I will have it available on my site soon. I do have a lot of the colors, the resin art, and, I mean, not yet, the just resin colors I have available on the site. She does. She has a midnight blue for sure. Yeah. I should have some more colors. Okay. Here we go. Yeah. It's one of my favorites. Oh, I need a bundle spreader. Let me go grab a bundle spreader. Okay. So with those shooting in, we are doing an epoxy challenge right now. Everyone's going to pick their colors. And we're all going to go head to head. Where are you? What are you doing there? No, I guess. What's this? Claire is getting crazy already over there. I am marking on you. You're mixing alcohol in that down there. You need me. You need me. You need me. Heyo. Playing with some bright gold paste. It's like molten amazes. Oh, want to click on the board. Okay. So this was my, okay, brown. This is why we can't have nice things. I know, dude. No more of my wine for you. Right here. Ron Deasy. All right. Okay. I promise you come to my class. She went full on. If you come to class, we are not this hectic. I promise. Just a dot there. You're going to do an epic wing right there. It's like two rounds. It's similar. So I'm talking to you on that. He had extra resin. I call foul. Ron Deasy, Erica, and Claire are already on the board. Mitch. They look good. Yeah. He's over there being a chemist. Is anybody drinking some water like I am? Yeah. Oh, I need to stay hydrated. Where is my water? That actually doesn't look so bad. It brings up the green. Yeah. Oh, the green. I think they said the green. I was like, yeah. That MDF green. Yeah. Listen, Kenny, I'm sorry about my edges. I don't have enough resin to bother. Somebody didn't. Nope. We did three ounces per square foot. No one can live off of that, Rhonda. There we go. Erica is giving them a nice base layer. Got to grease the pan. Wait. Wait, wait, wait. I'm just doing choppy that took me over the rocks.  The feet here on some of those lives. There's white. Is not to your liking as far as quality. Go to RK3's live. Yeah. RK3's live. Or ATD's live. Welcome on YouTube. Welcome on YouTube. Why are you there? Subscribe to the channel. Yeah, please. Right. Give me one of your or two of your one million subs, killer. We did the test. What? We do the test so you don't have to. Oh, dude. There we go. Mitch, finally doing some work over here. What? A little wash coat? Yes. Why are you doing a wash coat, Mitch? We call it a wash coat now. We all call it something different. He does a wash coat. Claire does a skin coat. Skin coat? Skin. She does a skin coat. She does a skin coat. Yeah. Your little prank did not work. What prank? All right. The point is she does call it a skin coat. Skin like is on your body, your dermis. It doesn't make no sense if we're fair. It puts a resin on its coat. Ron, what are you doing? I don't know. She's being extra.  I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to do with these colors. So basically what I've done is just rain. I don't know. Do we have the white? Hit them. I'm a brown guy. I'm a brown guy. I'm a brown guy. I'm a brown guy. Here you go. Thank you, ma'am. I know where to go with that. Just be innocent. What colors did you get, ma'am? I had cherry by color obsession. Diamond dust by Stone Coat. Where's the brown? It's over there. And burgundy spray paint. I can't get my stick. Burgundy and spray paint. Burgundy and cherry. I'm going to add some more brown. All right. Ooh, wow. Okay. Oh, wow. Look at this. So I mixed the brown. Judy says hi. Judy. So look at this. Watch this, guys. Okay. And look at that. Look. Wow. Look at that. Yeah, I wanted to know. There's a kind of melding there. Is she? I'm done waiting for you. It's starting. Who makes the abalone color again? Resin. Resin. You can get it from artist to artist. That says she wants brownies now. Brownies? Brownies? I want a big ol' cup of coffee. Can we have a couple brownies instead? I got to change the subject matter. Okay. So, I think this cobalt business. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Claire's got some clear red purr. She may need it, but it's there. So, it's 30 minutes is the time? Yeah, what's the 30 minutes? Where's the black? Do you have the black? Do I have the black? Do you have the black? Yeah. So, let's say we have to be safe. I tried. I'm trying to make my cherry deeper. Okay. So, remember, guys, once we're done, we need to explain exactly what we did. I'll have to remember? Yeah. Remember what you did. So, we can tell our artist. Okay. Okay. So, remember, guys, once we're done, we need to explain exactly what we did. I'll have to remember? Yeah. So, remember what you did. So, we can tell our audience what exactly that we did. We did this. You do this? Under pressure? Mitch, how you doing over there? I'm doing okay. Yeah. Mitch, you're more than I'm leaving. I'm going to see what Erica's up to. I'm doing a cherry marble. Ooh, a cherry marble. A glitzy cherry marble for your convenience. I told you, Erica, if you win, that's it. We're done. Lies, fairy tales. Rhonda! Adding some dentists. All right, all right. I have to add this cobalt blue that I chose. Well, that was your life decision. Mitch, let me know before you. Okay. It's a metallic, so I'm not real happy about the way it's felt. Oh! I move around a lot.  Ooh! Look at Mitch. Oh, there's one that's going to stand. Oh, man. Cheats. You're so smart. It kind of worked out okay. Don't say that to me out loud. Wear some paint. This will be good. We have donuts, actually. We have donuts over there. That's cool, man. Ooh, milk action. Look, y'all can see with me. Super-tilt. Super-tilt. You're disqualified. That was on air colors. That kind of looks cool. Judy said it's like chaos in the name of the game. But we're going to go for it. It is. Chaos is the name of the game. All right, so I'm also, yes. I'm doing it wrong. It's going crazy over there. You know all the spells? You spray your board. Yeah. And you do the Italian drip. Okay. Well, in your world. Let's do it. Let's do your old Italian drip, Ron. Hey. Hey. Oh. Hey. She's like done dripping by the time I get my Italian. It takes Erica 15 minutes to get her face right. I don't know why you got to bring up old stuff. Okay. All right. Yes, guys. If you're looking for what you see, please like, subscribe, hit that share button, grow all these channels. Nice. What's up, Tucky? We are here in Texas. Okay. I'm going to let mine sit for a little bit before I go to the next step. This could be a finish. In case you don't know. It could not be a finish. I might cheat. Just saying. Cheat? Wait a minute. You have to be so awesome. What come? Right. So what I did so far, I'm going to let it sit for a little bit. So what I did was take my brown opaque dye. I took rust metallic powder. And I melded them. And then I had the Avalon. And I put a little bit of the Avalon. And then I mixed the brown opaque dye into the Avalon. And then I mixed the brown opaque dye into the Avalon. And then I mixed the brown opaque dye into the Avalon. Because I wanted, I didn't want so much white. So I kind of tinted it. And the Avalon really caused that brown to have a lot of really beautiful bling. And then I just fogged the whole top with Cobalt Brown. Cobalt Brown. Cobalt Blue. Sorry. Cobalt Blue. Maybe that's a color somewhere. Sprint it with alcohol. And now I'm kind of letting it meld a little bit. And then I'm going to go to the next step. But I have to let this kind of set up just a little bit before I go to the next step. I like the depth in that. Yeah, look at that. Isn't that pretty? Yes. I like the setting that you're getting to. Yeah, that's really pretty. That was with 91%? Yes, 91%. And it's just plain alcohol. There's no, there's no, uh, mic in these alcohol cans. You should break out the secret weapon. Right? What is your secret weapon? Why you have to be so awesome. I woke up like that. Oh, see what I have to compete against? This. Oh my gosh, look at Mitch down there. No, you're supposed to say, oh my gosh, look at that. You look amazing too. He's all galactic. I just need more everything. I'm going to let this sink. What is cheating constitute? What constitutes cheating? What constitutes cheating? I'm not getting us enough to talk to you. What? Mitch with the lane action. Hmm. I just wanted it to sink so that it will be under this transparent. Oh, so I'm going to let it. Po-tip. Po-tip. Pro-trip it. Pro-trip in here. Cover your porch like this. Look at that. It's called pressin' silk. That's a terrible saran rather than a white piece. It is. It sticks to anything except for what you wanted to. Yeah. Legendary. I'm going to crush it. Starts off thin, right? Yeah. I'm just going to let this sink for a minute so that I can get this dark undertone and then I'm going to crush it. I'm just going to let it live for a minute. You're going to bondo that?  They put in quotations. Legendary. Mitch that looks amazing. This is. Ow, he cheated. He had extra resin. Why do you?  I didn't even finish it. You better stop now. But she got good colors. I had the same opportunity. You cheated. The customer that wants us on the countertops is so tired of feeling white marble. Yes. What's the color? We make them color. Mike Tech, we have the best clients. I know. Mitch. You know that. Oh my gosh. That is. Y'all, I just threw mine all together. You need to say more positive words about mine. Stop talking about yours. We have someone saying watch it from the back yard and join the live. Can you say that on the live? The real Roo. I'm really getting the Kangaroo. Yes. I'm sorry. Brian, since we're over to Michigan, Mitch, you're welcome to do mine. Yes. Once it is white marble, I'm there. I'll be at Michigan next month. Nice. Are you ready? Mitch, do you want to see what's up with the rocker? I just wanted to make sure that I had some sunken colors so we woke up at about seven years The buzz tool. I started cleaning with some chemical. We all did. That was not part of the deal. I didn't see any buzz of what tools you can use. Sometimes you have to use a blower. I did do more cherry but it kind of dulled out. But that's okay because I don't know that many people that want like blood. My cherry is kind of sinking away. Nope. Pardon me while I make this a winning piece real quick. What? Is this mine? I don't know. We had access to it. Bingo wings. Why are you going to show off that you can do an Italian drip and I can't? There you go. I want to talk to our manager. There it is. So did we have any extra epoxy left? Yeah, I have a tiny bit. I got gold. Can I have some gold please? I got a little blue. Thank you. Well I can't cheat with the blue. I would use somebody else's. I have brown. I can see that. That is not going anywhere on your board. The AC is blowing. Hold on Erica. Is she wins because I put my rust on her piece? Keep your rust to yourself. What? My rust floated on her side. Mind your rust. Alright. I can see your rust. You can see me?   Let me see what this gold looks like on your curves before I go. Gothic marble. Type it up. First out. Hey Mitch. Question from Dave Porter. What's up Dave? He says hey Mitch, I'm curious if you guys mind people dropping in to check out your products at the shop. I don't think you're going to pass this week though. You didn't know what I'm doing. Yes, of course you didn't know what I'm doing. It's just a secret location where we do our filming. And since you commented on the live, I'm picking up a detail of Mitch from the shop. Thanks for watching. I've been there dude. It's awesome. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. You know we have to finish ATV the giant glass burl. The burl? We didn't and it was it was one of our best videos. People loved it. It's pretty cool. I said we have to put out our Yuuri's ad. Why do you do? This is Gothic marble. Layers of yours. Our conversation commented on our live says holy cow it's Queen Clara, Empress Eric. And goddess Rhonda all in the same live. They didn't even mention you in your own live. That's awesome dude. Thanks for noticing. Yeah, I'm going to go left over. Yes, I uh I don't know if I, yeah, tiny bit here. Okay, I'm not liking this. Magical Mitch, there you go. I'm not liking this. Majestic Mitch. Majestic Mitch. Henceforth, you will forever be Majestic Mitch. It's quite majestic. Well, you know what, I really don't know what I'm doing. So, I was waiting on you to talk about it. Mitch, yo, Dave says probably I'll take you up on that next one on that way. So, if I fog it, it really didn't fracture your brain. So, I'm trying to figure out how to use that. She already knows it's been an effort of a month. You cover all my colors on the bottom. So, on the bottom, I've melded my brown. You want a glove? And my rust. And my abalone.  And see if I can just get that blue metallic just to be a hint of color on top and not take over all the prettiness on the bottom. So, I know you guys can't see this from home, but it's very 3D-ish here. You can see down through the sun. Gotcha, Betty. I actually did the two different color browns that I used. Yeah, well, that's one good for the camera. Huh? You want to talk to your live? What's up live? I feel like I crushed it, so I need you guys to vote for me because I win. Uh, no. Don't vote for her. Vote for me. I'll be watching. Actually, she crushed it. Lies and fairy tales. Yeah, we're crushing it. The deadline, the time, aren't we? All right. That's three minutes. I've been to three minutes ago. All right, Mitch, look at Mitch. Holy cow, y'all are awesome. It was so fun. You're not invited back anymore because you just beat me. Y'all beat me. I did it. I got crappy colors. Sorry. And they're good colors. They're just not good together. I got too much brown. I didn't have any contrasting colors. I didn't have a contrasting color, so I pulled white in. That's what you can do. I want brown. Do white. My white was going to make my brown turn creamy. I didn't know. Grab the creamy. All right. That's done. Yeah. All right, let me heat up. I'm stuck, sent $10. Thank you so much. Are you present for the finished tables? Yeah, brown and blue. So I had opaque brown. I'm trying to find ATV, day-to-day design. Yeah, yours was pretty fast. Blue. Brass and spurious. Yeah. Yeah. And then we were allowed to use a little bit of a flame as a layer. Uh-huh. It's good. Thanks. Resmart. Oh, no. I mean, I'm just ready. So sorry. Maybe that's what it was. Community and have bonded through our child. Okay, everyone, that's wrong. Oh, I'm so sorry. But thank you for watching. Here's Erica. How is this? Let me go to the next one. Go pass, pass, pass. Woo. That is really pretty. Sick. Gorgeous. I'm excited. That's exotic. Yeah, it's my Gothic marble. That works. That's a good day for it. Yeah. It fits. Question. Bron is trying to sabotage. No, I'm not. I would not. You're doing this and you all give me the inspiration to start my own epoxy business. You should come to a Ronda class. We have a class for that. We have a class for that. We have a class. Ooh, we're going on tour. Which happens to be starting tomorrow. Possibly sponsored. Yeah. So our pro class is starting tomorrow. It's going to be awesome. Check us out. We will go live quite a bit. You never know who's going to show up. Right? You're going to have a Clara. A Mitch. And in there. Thanks, you guys. That's awesome. Man, that's freaking awesome. Working with the blue. Listen, here's the thing. When I do this stuff, it only works out when I'm here. I don't know if it's because how you mix your resin or if it's just the awesome environment, but it only works if you're here. No, it only works if I'm here. It's fact. Can you have some alcohol action in there? Yeah. Yeah. The copper in the alcohol. To you guys. You have midnight blue from this resin. A limo light white. And then you chose white. Yeah. It's so close. I just did a drop of black powder. Black powder? Black. The bronze gives it or the hammer gives it all that fine bubbly look. Wow. That's awesome. Makes you did great. The blue blaze. All right, guys. So I need you to vote and we're going to give you. I don't know. Two or three minutes to vote. All right. And across several shows. So what's the winner going to be? Everybody vote for me. Let me make it easy. Me. Me. All right.  What? Yeah. So I'm going to pick. I was called out on YouTube.  I was called out by. People. This one person that said I was the white haired lady on YouTube that didn't know what she was talking about and was scamming everyone. Stop scamming people. All of you that I'm scamming. Sorry. Anybody. Calm down. You see the videos and the pops shows up at your door from your order of RK three. I promise. No scam. No. I'm not scamming. And it actually shows up pretty quick. I'm pretty fast. Video for cats. If that's not enough. A little bit of money and learn. Need to run around yourself. Person. What the heck? Excellent. Just scam about that. There's no scam. I know. They like my hair. That's the main thing. The same guy that told me I had no business teaching either. Yeah. You know what? It's trolls. Why are we talking so much about one negative person? Troll is going to troll. We just need to point out that she's out there. Look what happens when you join this community. Oh, just it says. Just it says Rhonda is the realist on my channel. Mitch. Mitch. Erica. Okay guys. I got one. All right. Here we go. We'll do one more. All right. Flyover. Who's counting? They're going the wrong way. All right. You're in the wrong part of the buffet line. So I guess it's going to be hard to really pick a word. So we have Rhonda's. Yeah. Erica's. I feel like it's going to be whoever's channel it is. I feel like we're all. There's a lot of love there. There's a lot of love there. Hey, I got a vote. Of course you did. Hey guys. This looks so awesome. This is my favorite part right here. I think we've had so much fun. This part right here. Devon says I vote for Mitch. I want those colors in my kitchen. Yes. Me too. Mitch. You are all winners. Mitch. It's the winner on ours. All right. Mitch. You're the winner on ours. Awesome. Yes. Thank you guys. I feel better not do that. Do you guys hear me? Yeah. Better don't do that. I think that's true. You guys better don't do that. Okay. This is my channel and I better. You guys better not do that. Hey, lady. All right. JK, JK, JK. Legitly though. JK. Hey, that Mike. Is that Mike hooked up to my channel? This is your Mike and this is my Mike. Uh-oh, Mike. Okay. I'm dual Mike. She's double. Hi guys. She wanted me to tell you that I win. So here it goes. Probably quiet. Just for a second. This is serious. I am totally honored. Uh-oh. She's going to cry. I'm not. I'm going to hold it together. I'm going to cry. I am totally honored to be able to do what I do with these people right here. This is all fun and games for us. Get in there. But we take our business very seriously guys. We are all, every single one of us dedicate so many hours of our time to give all of you guys stuff for absolutely free. Come on baby. Do that because we value your support and we value just being able to help you just to create beautiful things. I do teach classes. I take it very seriously that people spend money to come see us and we do take that very seriously.  So we're all winners. I love you. Thank you guys for all joining us. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. And if you can, go give us all a like and subscribe to our channel if you aren't subscribers. We do this every Tuesday night. Not this whole thing, but this. I'm not sure what you guys do on your channel if you go live part of it. We'll start to bring lives back for sure. Eric and them go live almost every night. They go live. They're extra. Yeah. Anyway, so thank you one more time again and we appreciate it. All right. So guys remember until next time. Don't be scared. Move forward. Be creative. Okay. Don't be scared. All right. One more time. Don't be scared. Move forward. Be creative. Don't go counter talks. You got this. All right, you guys. All right. All of you got this. All the people know where y'all are. All right. All right. Be kind to one another. You never know what someone's going through. We'll see you guys next time. Bye. Bye. Bye. We said bye, Bobo. Adios.