There's no telling how much the time this would take so I don't think anybody else could predict. Welcome. Good evening and welcome to the meeting of SoCal Creek Water District for January 15. Roll call will find all of the directors here thankfully. There are no public hearings tonight so the first item on tonight's agenda is the consent agenda. Is there anything anyone wishes to remove from consent? Okay, item 3.7 to any committee assignments? Anyone else? If someone from the public wants to ask if something come off the consent, that's fine. Thank you, Becky Steinbrenner, resident of the community of Aptos. I would like to take off item 3.1 and item 3.5. I had something on 3.9. Okay. I move all the others then. Second. The other consent items have been moved and seconded. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, so item 3.1 was removed. That's the minutes. So that was not from the directors, that was from Ms. Steinbrenner. So that item is up now if you had a question or a comment on the minutes. Thank you. Becky Steinbrenner, resident of Aptos. I have for your board and for your staff. I have a copy for Mr. Basso. He's not here. I have a formal letter of protest regarding the action to approve resolutions 1830, thank you, and 1831. But isn't that something specifically about the minutes? Well, when would you like me to discuss? Probably under oral communications would be better. Okay. Because that's not a correction to the minutes. Or 6.2. Or 6.2. Yeah, okay. So item 6.2 would be the best time because this is really for just to see if the minutes are correct or not or make corrections. Okay. Not to go over any item that was on the minutes. Okay, I'm sorry. I misunderstood. I thought that any item within the minutes could be discussed. No. And this was a rather huge one. Right. Exactly. So that item will be item 6.2. All right. Thank you. Do you want me to stay here for? I would wait. Please have a seat. We have a couple more. 3.5 she's doing. Oh, yeah, 3.5. Well, let me first move 3.1. I'll second. Approval of the minutes. Item 3.1 has been moved and seconded. All in favor. Aye. Aye. All right. So we'll go to item 3.1. I did like these minutes. With level detail. Yeah. That was good. Well done. So production reports. Item 3.5. Thank you. I have some questions about the production reports. First of all, I have a question about the O'Neill well. But should I wait and ask that during the staff organization wide reports? Yeah. Yep. Okay. So on top of that, then I have a question on page 239. There it discusses water from imported water from Central Water District. I'd like an explanation about that. And also noting that the. Sorry, I'm not seeing 239. It's at the bottom. It's at the bottom. December 27 units. Okay. Okay. It wasn't a discussion. I thought you said a discussion. Okay. And I would like. Again, I do want clarification, but that will come later about what's going on with the O'Neill ranch well. And I also note that the use was up and over water budget, but it showed the production down. And I thought that was interesting. So if we could just have, if I could just have some clarification about that, I would appreciate it. And just noting, I didn't bring it up in item 3.3. But just noting that $1.6 million was spent in one month alone for pure water. So Cal. Yeah, that's really, that's I'd like you to stay on the item, please. You're talking about. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. Item 3.7. Oh, 3.7 standing committees that's on page 248. And I just wanted to, I don't have any correction to it, but I noticed that I was the chairman of three, those three committees. And I thought one of, and I know one part of the reason why it's happened that I predominant on these committees is because they're during the day. So I wanted to agendize a discussion about moving the, at least the WR infrastructure, whatever it is, the infrastructure meeting to after five o'clock, so that other board members could participate, you know, either five or six o'clock or five to six or five 30 to six 30. But that's for the future because it would require pulling the other committee members who are the citizens. Right. So we can address. So it wouldn't be addressed before the next meeting in February. Okay. Just a note. That's all I had. Okay. We'll put that on for a future agenda item. And I move approval of 3.7. I'll second. Okay. It's been moved and seconded. All in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. And we haven't approved 3.5 yet. No, we didn't. We skipped right through it. We have to approve production reports? Well, it's. No, I think it's information report. Okay. It's just information. And. On and the report on item 3.9. There was just, there were, there were two things that I just had on page 253. On the first groundwater modeling. That's probably Montgomery and associates. Just so people don't wonder what's Monterey associates. I don't know. It's our, isn't that our groundwater modeling. Team. Yeah. Okay. Just, just so we have. In case people are confused. I just have one more comment. Yes. The consent agenda in general. And I was wondering this. Consent agenda was. Particularly long. It was hard to. Get through to the different items. And I was wondering if we could tag. Each individual. Item the way we bullet. The main item numbers that we could do some. Subbulleting. So that you can search for it on the computer. I can. My computer. I see it. Is a bookmark. I see it. But if you wanted. If you were looking at the agenda and asked for. 3.6. You'd have to scroll. I have to scroll through. Okay. We can work on. There's a way to open that consent agenda up to get to it. Specifically. So maybe we can meet. And if that doesn't work, we'll. We'll find another way. Yeah. Carla, if you look. On the screen. I can. I can. I can work with you on that. And then if it doesn't, we'll. We'll take a different. We'll see whether. I can show you how to do on that advice. If not, we can modify it. Okay. Okay. So let's let's. Okay. Thanks very much. Okay. That is all for the consent agenda. And so now. It will be time for oral communications. So. So. So. So what software is that? What is that program? This is Adobe reader. I can. I can work with you on that. So. So. So let's get to the oral communications. Just wanted to remind people that there is an item. Item 6.2, which we'll have to do with an update on the. Community water plan. And pure water. So Cal. And surface water pilot project. So. That's item 6.2. So if there's any. Oral communications on items that are not. Agendized. Now would be the time. So, let me clarify. You'd prefer I talk about so, Okay, we'll be under that item 6.2. Okay. Thank you Then I will do that I Attended the Saturday's Santa Margarita water basin Workshop that was excellent. It was in Felton and the title of it was growth How do water and growth? Mix and I can't that's not exactly what it was, but it was tying the two together And I've commented many times that in this county at the planning department there's the real disconnect between the planning department and the water needs for development and That workshop was really good, and I'd encourage you if you were not able to go It was very well attended by the way Saturday morning from 9 a.m. To noon in Felton community hall It will be put up soon on the Santa Margarita ground water agency website. It was excellent and John Laird opened it by Really talking about how important conjunctive use regional solutions are for our water future So I hope that you take that to heart. I Also want to point out I did notice that work has begun on the district's project at Twin Lakes Church and Many people don't know what that is and I do see that the required sign has been put up But it is difficult to read Because it's mesh, so it's only readable for people coming down the driveway from Twin Lakes Church, and they're not looking up there. They're Watching the traffic as I speak with people out in the public. No one knows what this is about I would like to ask that the sign be made out of a different material so that it can be read The problem with the mesh is when you look up To read it through the sky. You don't see what the writing is. It's pretty impossible to read So I'd like a solid material for the sign and have it put on Cabrillo College Drive I Am really disappointed that project went through and again I want to protest it because in reading the mitigated and negative declaration For it the consultant stated it would be gravity feed and now Director Daniels I see why you said that that it would be gravity feed because that's what your consultant said That's not true. Okay Thank you. Thank you Is there anyone else that wishes to address us on an item not on tonight's agenda All right seeing none board members already Then we will move along Next item on the agenda will be The reports organization-wide status report Get each Manager to present and there will be no report out from council obviously Bob Bossos not telling well. Yes, mr. Bossos ill. I think tonight Hello For conservation and customer service. I didn't have anything to add to the report, but I did want to bring in Some signage that we'd previously Put together with board input for the water demand offset program and outreaching that for the development projects that Have gone through the program and met their offset requirement So I don't know if that was brought up at the prior meeting That You'd like to see some more outreach and you wanted to agendize that item. So I wanted to bring this in just to kind of Refresh where we left off and see if I can get some ideas for what you'd like to see when we do bring that back Okay, that'd be great. Any you have any thoughts since I was Well, that's certainly bigger than what we've been using but I'd say we should make it be Seuth to site so for example if it's the Aptos site I mean the signs there like that wide about six feet tall and this is not going to be seen because it's across a Parking lot and across the railroad tracks and so something even bigger on that site, but okay for home. That's that's fine Okay, so the content is probably still Appropriate and I mean I can bring it back as an item on maybe the next board meeting But well personally I would get rid of the I know what it is the gray stuff there and just make the lettering be even bigger Okay Right Yeah, maybe we could ask the outreach committee to take a look at it and give some suggestions Yeah, I'm making it bigger were there any questions on the report I See none, okay Thank you by the way, yeah Good evening. I'll be addressing some of the Surface water Purchase from the city in 6.2, but I do want to make note and draw your attention that the city is beginning their Awk for storage and recovery testing at belts 12 this Friday, and that's the first cycle of their testing and that's a one-day Storage and a one-day recovery And then they're going to go to a seven-day and then a 30-day and it's going to go all the way through the through June so we're coordinating with the city closely on that for monitoring with private wells as in addition to Monitoring wells so that data will of course be Shared with us and and we'll share it with you as it comes available, but we are monitoring that Any other questions So on that Taj the eye what they're trying to find out is how well the area receives water and how quickly it loses water Right because that's different than what we're proposing for a pure water. So Cal which would be dedicated Recharge wells these would be both recharge and extraction Yeah storage and recovery I Notice they had some concern about Interference with our wells and vice versa, but that's right And so what have you what have you come up with to? Because I they wanted us to take O'Neill well off and we're going to be doing that tomorrow afternoon offline Okay, it'll help just eliminate one more equation to the data And they can they can further extrapolate once they get their drawdown data and draw up data They can apply that to our existing drawdown that the historical drawdown that we know of The two wells the O'Neill and the belts well belts 12 well are very closely connected connected hydraulically and so You know, we're trying to coordinate Our pumping when it's not when they're not doing their testing we do try to Alternate and pump in the day versus the night so that they're not both on at the same time Tapping down the O'Neill well for that those periods of time interacted with the Surface water pilot project and delivery to that neighborhood. Yeah, I think we're probably bleeding into on M status report But I know Yeah, and so I mean I can we can co co-present if you want Christine come on up here We initially started before we got Permission from the state because we're experimenting with the ammonia issue at O'Neill and so we asked the state for a Waver to increase the hypochlorite dose All in the ONM status report But and so we wanted to practice and check out the data Before the city started their ASR test So that's why we we ended up running O'Neill and Scaling back a little on the intertie transfer so it got cut down about by half for three weeks or so and We did get some valuable data. We still would like to you know We're excited to start up that again after the city's finished, but it's it'll be intermittently used Weekly but very short time just to make sure that it's an available source for us But once the city's done, we'll resume our our ammonia testing with permission from the state That answer your question about how those are tied together I mean I did and then how we're gonna work with the city to go into deal with On and off of O'Neill is what I was concerned about. Yeah, we don't want to interfere with their data collection and so I think I Think we've worked it out So have there been discussions at the staff level about the fact that the awkward storage recovery site and O'Neill will interact and how We might operate In the future if there was if they were gonna do aquifer storage recovery at that site You know, we haven't had those dialogues yet Some point. We will have to have those Um, I noticed under the TCP that everything's on hold. That was my question too. You can't have it. I got it first No, you can have it Yeah, I Know Christine probably wants to hear that answer too Well, we are we are pending our day in court with with that legal case But in the meantime we were directed to move forward by by the our consultant in that legal challenge And so it's really an availability of staff. We've got a lot going on Once we get our new engineering tech up to speed we can kind of Pick pick certain things back up. I think if Christine had her choice I think she'd probably say so Cal drive cast iron main replacement Perhaps I'll let her say but you know, that's a real high-priority project as well Which I think it had another leak on the status report over this last reporting period. So If you guys want to try to expedite something we can shift other priorities around but we're pretty full we have a Pretty full plate with other people's projects the capital a library has initiated construction In fact tomorrow we there's a pre-construction meeting for that and again, that's a whole relocation of a water main That goes through the parking lot So we are we are engaged in that we have the aptos Village project that is nearing completion, but a very large project with respect to infrastructure And then the Rancho del Mar shopping center is also on our Our plate to to make sure is administered correctly So that ties up one of my engineers pretty sure pretty full time in addition to you can see the number of new services that have been coming in so What's the compliance date for TCP? When do we start? Oh, it's it's now. It's it's in effect. Okay? Yeah That well is offline that's kind of high priority that well offline. Yeah, okay. All right. Thanks The only thing I wanted to add to my status report was that Regarding the O'Neill Ranch Ammonia evaluation It looks like we did have our dose stabilized over the past week And it stabilized right around The maximum use level That is after two it takes about two hours for it to stabilize so the first two hours It's on every time you started off The dose is increasing so overall the average is Doses significantly less than the maximum, but it looks like for the past week It had stabilized like right around that level so which is good news it's encouraging and I You know, I kind of wish we could do a little more Testing on that, but I guess we'll have to pick that up after the ASR test is finished Or at least until after the water transfer is finished, okay, any other questions Thank you Well, I noticed in 2017 there was a peak and repairs and you know repairs required and I knew like the rainfall we've had this week and the Portent for the rest of the winter do dissipate a higher Damage main rate, I guess You mean with regard to the winter needed Actually, our leak season is the summer Yeah, I'm not sure if that's because Why that is exactly it might be temperatures of soils. I'm not really sure but We did have last year not 2000 2017 we had the highest number of service repairs Since we've been Calculating that I'm not sure why but it did drop back down to two more average levels Yeah Okay, no, thank you. So we go on to special projects Yeah, we'll do it at the end of the report. Okay. Yeah Well, I think you you had asked actually asked to have it at the end So that you instead of at the beginning. It's either the beginning at the or the end but not at each one Okay, sorry, I was trying to make it at the end so everybody had a chance to hear it first So special projects, I don't have any Anything to add unless you have questions and a lot of the information that Special projects communications is doing is an item 6.2, but specifically for some of the outreach activities is The team is looking at developing a communications and outreach plan for 2019 Got some feedback from our public outreach committee and we will be bringing that back at the next meeting Okay, and finance and so for me I just wanted to kind of expand upon my last item there the low-income rate assistance Draft report that was issued by the state water resources control board We did have a chance to review that and I don't know as the district necessarily needs to offer public comment It looks like this program is not something the district would administer it would be administered by the state Our responsibility would be just to inform our customers that the program is available It looks now like it would be made available to households that were 200% or less of the federal poverty level and The funds would be dispersed either as a credit on their electricity bill or on a mean water No electricity They're found that most low-income residents don't have water service in their name They're either tenants or members of a Multi-residential community so most of those people wouldn't benefit from a credit on the water bill They do find however that most low-income residents do have an electricity bill in their name So they're thinking that they can offer the water credit on the electricity bill through the care program Or they could issue it as a direct cash Benefit on an electronic benefits card through a program such as CalFresh So those are the mechanisms that they are looking at now We would just have to inform our customers that the program was out there should they choose to apply Okay, so Low and people who qualify for this would get a credit For their water, but it wouldn't go to the water bill, right? It would appear as a credit on their electricity bill which presumably would free up household income to be used for their water bill or it would appear as a cash Like on a visa card through the CalFresh program They would have a credit on that that would give them cash That could be used For other things, but would then free up their their money to pay their water bill Is it appropriate for us to comment on the levels that are in the report in terms of the property level? What no what the the credits would be? The credits are actually based on the Agency the individual agency's average bill assuming an average bill is 12 units of water So they've got three tier levels They've got tier one tier two and tier three if you're a tier one level That's a fairly inexpensive water bill and you would get a 20% discount off the bill If you were in tier two, that's a medium-range bill You'd get a 35% discount off the bill And if you were in tier three or were with an agency that had higher water bills for 12 unit bill Then you would get a 50% reduction off that bill and so those are the those are the levels of credit that they're considering offering So we can comment on any of it. I just after seeing where the state arrived at At the program. I didn't know if it was something that the district took objection to we don't have to administer it I Think for us for our agency our customers would pipe would qualify for the 50% discount On a 12 unit bill So it doesn't matter how much water they actually use They would get that 50% of a 12 unit bill discount every month So and if you would like me to respond I'm more than happy to but I just wasn't sure that the district had any Is it necessary? I guess is it's not necessary. I mean in terms of the If we're so if we agree with that and are supportive of it Is there a need to Let somebody know that we are supportive of it. We could write a letter of support. Yeah, we could do that Our opportunity to respond is February 1st Okay I would like to see a letter of support brief letter of support But there's not going to be a meeting between now and then right But I'm but we can just draft something saying the district has reviewed your draft report and is in in support of the Recommendations you may Is that that's fine comfortable with that? Yeah, I mean I've been waiting. I've been hoping they'd be some relief for low-income people So It's great. What did you say the income was supposed to be 200% of the federal poverty level? 70,000 50 for a four-person household. I think it's about 56,000. Okay, so households making 56,000 or less would qualify for that program I would since I haven't had a chance to read the report and won't have a chance gone Maybe a more generic in support of the concept Okay, be more appropriate because there could be things that Specifics that we might not totally agree with but support the concept. I think would be Do I have to make a motion? Well, yeah, probably be probably be good. Yeah, and you may do you want? It's not gentle I'd say just take direction direction just to trust that we can get a reasonable Supportive letter that's not necessarily super specific, right Signed by staff Okay Thank you, thank you Let's see trace. I'm over here You're a lawyer tonight, I am not your lawyer I Just wanted to remind the board that we're still in recruiting season and our final wrap up just to give you a recap in Terms of number of recruitments just since June of 2018. We actually recruited and filled six positions Which is pretty significant for a small agency with 45 employees And we are still in the process of filling one vacancy that was created through an internal promotion The other thing I wanted to remind the board which is included in my report is the next board meeting We do have agendized and scheduled for our mandatory ethics training that will happen between five and seven that Bob will be presenting Right, so the the actual regular meeting will start at 7 p.m. That night for the members of the public Right, right. We'll have that on the agenda ethics training People are welcome to come to that too, but yeah, and there will be other agency members Right help them Other other agencies coming in Scott's power There's some indicated that they're coming so we'll see Okay, and so we go to a general manager. Yeah, so I'll just highlight two things one it was there was an article in the Good times and it cited there and what kind of struck me was you know as we look to do multiple projects To help solve the overdraft problem and Santa Cruz's problem too of short during drought that You know the streams have taken the fish at least have taken a beating over the years in the 60s It says here. There were tens of thousands of steelhead salmon migrated up the San Lorenzo or each year and now There was it's decreased from since since then to In 1997 about 80 fish per hundred feet and since 1997 till now in 2015 to about 20 fish So just in that short time span since 97 it's gone from 80 to 20 for every hundred feet So, you know and they attribute it mainly to really you could put it to water loss that's what they say water levels because Temperatures is really impacted mainly by trees and quantity of water So just something to take note as we pursue that option Be aware of and then the second item is just the water reuse California annual conference and maybe we To get the early bird special it'd be great if you if you could tell Tracy tonight at the end of the meeting or Emma Whether you plan to attend and if that's not possible if we need to be emailed by the end of the week Otherwise we got to go forth and make plans and if we do it afterwards it does cost more so that's Possible, but we you know we know everybody's cost-conscious so And I will note if you arrow down just a little bit more they're trying to move forward with kind of a little more Orientation toward board members. I know you're a very technical group. So you might like the the more technical Agenda, but they're also trying to and you know focus on that. So I might find that of some of interest. Thank you Okay, so I think that Takes care of the organization wide status report. So if there's any You have something to add or know if there's any question any questions or comments from the public on Any of those items this would be the time Thank you. Thank you for the good reports Becky Steinbruner from Aptos. I just Really want to ask more about why the district is choosing to do the ammonia testing on the O'Neill ranch. Well now when you're also doing the surface water transfer pilot testing My understanding was the whole purpose of doing the surface water pilot testing was to test the effects on the groundwater levels and stream flows By Not pumping in that service area and instead using water from Santa Cruz City's north coast streams and So I was very shocked to learn that the O'Neill ranch was turned on I had understood in the beginning of hearing a summary of this project that that water transfer project that During the the life of the project from November through April the O'Neill and the Main Street Wells would be turned off In order to really test this So I was shocked to hear the Santa Cruz City water report That the district turned the O'Neill ranch on Just barely two weeks after the water surface water transfer experiment began Why why why is this happening? It reduced the flow from 1200 gallons a minute sometimes higher That you were not pumping from the ground It reduced it to Half So you've increased your pumping from the groundwater to time when you're trying to find out if Turning off the wells and Using surface water would work It this makes no sense and I have to tell you the water supply advisory commission was shocked and Many people in the community who celebrated with you Director Daniels when the valve was opened were shocked So to me even to hear not many questions coming from the board. Thank you Director Christensen for at least mentioning it. It seems like the whole focus is testing the ammonia at O'Neill Why does that have to be done now? Why can't that wait until after? April or whenever the what surface water transfer agreement ends for this season It's perplexing and it's very very disappointing and I'd like an explanation. Thank you. Thank you Thank you. I'd like to comment on that so We're not testing To see whether surface water transfers will work or not they will work We're testing to see whether there's anything unanticipated By having it come into our a part of our district will occur so The purpose is not to see whether or not the district wells where we cover because of surface water We know that will work The purpose is to see what the whether there's any unanticipated effects of having Surface water come into our district beyond the testing that we already did we don't think there will be But this is just a another test to see if there's anything unanticipated I was sorry no back and forth no back and forth your comment period is done. Excuse me So I Don't remember it ever ever anything ever mentioning that the other wells would be turned off during the whole time of the winter transfer I Think that we do want to utilize that transfer and I don't I don't I don't honestly know what the flow rates of You know our what our planned flow through that Through the water transfer is going to be related to those the primary function is to see whether the pilot test would work and cause Adverse in health impacts it regard regarding how much we pump or take that's a relative number you pump more you see You know certain impacts you pump less you see the same impacts and you can extrapolate so it's that's not really It was always meant to be mixed That's what I understood So is there anyone else that wishes and Becky I will talk with you more about this later if you'd like to Because there's a misunderstanding here But it's not appropriate at the board level to take time on that I Do my Monica McGuire now in Corralitos still working in Aptos To comment further on that too actually because I am another person who would love for their explanation It doesn't make sense to those of us who were under the impression that the board and the district was Not thinking that the water transfer system would work for refilling the aquifers and that's why it wasn't one of the reasons it wasn't being done and those of us who have done our best to keep asking since it's so much less expensive and One of the particular comments. I wanted to make too is from what mr. Duncan said that the Lower numbers of fish are due to loss of water and then he corrected himself and said to levels of water My understanding is that again the water transfer system is superior for the fish Habitat as well because it takes water away from the excess water flow such as we're having right now Which is also very detrimental to fish when there's too much water going out and all the water that is For all these years lost to the bay with the water runoff since water transfers Haven't been done for all these years that they were suggested and all of these years We could have been refilling the aquifer and offsetting the salt water intrusion, etc. It's just There's very often this strange discussion that defies some of the Basic understanding that those of us who try to look at it have So there's there's so many pieces to the water transfer not happening at the level that it was expected to in order to show How much it can Refill the aquifer and offset at a fraction of the cost and again, that's something I'm very upset to see still in the Literature that there's what just went out with the prop 218 protest Information which wasn't clear again and didn't show up in a way that helps the people who are paying the bills to understand that The cost of the water transfers is actually a fraction of the cost of the pure water Titled program so There are too many factors that affect all our children That affect the existing residents who don't understand this massive increase in their rates have coming to them now that they could be learning to protest, but there wasn't a Easy understanding and again there was misinformation about the cost difference between the water transfers and the Pure water proposed and all the problems with the EIR that we all put forth all our concerns and they were not answered in the Incredibly short 10 day period that we could possibly have looked at it. So all of these things I want to just again say this is worse than disconcerting and and we really do Need to keep trying to alert people to what the real choices are and they don't seem like they're coming from here honestly Thank you. Thank you for your concern if you want to meet with Becky and I after the meeting I can talk about this. I wanted to just make a point is that people keep saying it's a Yeah, sorry, we're done with that. Sorry your comment is finished Thank you. But The people keep mentioning the price of the water for this. This is a pilot test at a rate that is absolutely Not going to continue beyond the current pilot test to see if it's Working and safe for our customers to mix surface water with a groundwater system Yeah, and we recently put it on FAQ about cost because somebody did raise that concern do you want to just say Yeah, that was presented to the board on December 4th, it was a tech memo that was created In collaboration with the city of Santa Cruz on water rates that we would see Currently with the pilot project. They actually stated within their water commission meeting that that was a discounted rate That wouldn't be used for a long-term contract and at this point because they are so early on in their proof of concept with their Evaluation process. They don't have cost estimates and they directed us on the studies to use that would be the basis at this point for both The city and ourselves and looking at what long-term River water transfer project cost would be so you may want to note that and I can direct that to you later Miss McGuire on the website. It's basically 15 times the cost of what they're charging us now And we can talk later about it. Okay, so Anybody else? Well, I think the other thing to mention is that you know for now, it's only 300 acre feet So that's not going to fill up the basin or anything and and that's only going to go this year and next year So We we don't even know where it's going to go from there We do not we certainly know that you know to go any higher than that's going to require a water rights change and You know the first the city is starting an EIR on that They'll also have to do a habitat conservation plan HCP and then they have to go to the state board to ask for the water Right change and they currently have one that's been going on for 12 years. So I don't know how long it's going to take You know, I know the city thinks it's going to just take a short amount of time, but I don't know Michelle I I've been kind of like thinking about this thing about people scaring others about this huge increase in the rates and I looked at my bill and I pay $1 a day per person in my household That's how much I pay and I doubt too many people pay more than that And that's if it goes to dollar 10 is water worth it. I think so I Have a real problem with this whole scare tactic because it really isn't that much Okay, let's move on we're moving on now That item is now finished. There is no district council report There is 5.3 Mid County groundwater agency update Yeah, nothing that relate a report there the MGA has not met for a while at council one meeting won't be Meeting again till February. There is a GSP advisory committee meeting ground wash sustainability plan advisory committee meeting next week and Some additional modeling results will be presented if that is one of the main focus and some other discussions That those agendas will be published and write it out Okay, all right. So now we go to I think that's what you're coming up for yes item 6.1 conditional unconditional will serve letters Good evening again. Yeah, we have eight will serve letters to consider for you to consider and there will be another Handful of them next meeting. This is a backlog of people on the wait list that have been allowed to move forward with the approval of the AMI fee to free up these will serve so I Can answer any questions about any specific ones if you wish You want okay, and any any members of the public on this item We will this is not an item All right, so I'll entertain a motion I'll move to approve Okay, so the move to approve the board actions that are those will serve letters One through eight all in favor I Well, there's another thing in fact, it's you can see it on the earlier things that we talked about we are selling Water that we don't have yet. We are we're talking about you know putting together the contracts for the AMI equipment Then we have to submit them the purchase order for the AMI equipment then we have to get the equipment and we have to install the equipment and then we also have to have the You know the electronic system to actually take the information on a daily basis and then contact the customer So it'll probably be six months before we actually start saving any water at all But we're selling them tonight, but I don't think any of these projects will be constructed by then either Maybe maybe not I mean I Think we looked at that timing at the meeting when we first discussed this whole Whole plan and shelling people may already have their will permits, but they may have been on the old program Exactly, but the ones on the new ones Those those are people that are gonna go forward No with starting something if they're just getting a conditional there may be a few early a few way late I think it'll work, you know To what we're trying to achieve. It would be achieved. We'll have water savings in time for the actual use All right item 6.2 Run. Yeah, so this is an update on the two Water supply projects that we're really focusing on pure water so kill and the river water transfer We'll kick it off with pure water so kill and really what we wanted to do and it's for tourists You know, we're fortunate was informed the board that We now see the need to do additional outreach Beyond what we've done, which is quite a bit and will be presented to People around Santa Clara. We've been talking that site around that site. We need to reach out more To some of those people we've been prompted so what we wanted to do was run the board through some of these Informational items that we hope to present to these people and we actually have I think some people in the crowd tonight So they'll see a little preview and we hope to get some feedback from you either tonight or later That'd be excellent about whether we're kind of addressing some of the some of the concerns anyway At least aren't getting on that track so with that I'll just let's just kick it off and Well, we're gonna let's see We want to do the surface water first Let's let's It's the quick one. Okay. Do you want to I think we kind of talked about that didn't we? Give a give a two-minute or one two-minute synopsis if you would please touch I just under For these people out here. Yeah, I'm not sure if they're aware of what that is We've been talking a little bit about it tonight, but The intent is to continue with purchasing some surface water from the city through the end of April and We will you know as part of the recommendation all along to ease into the the introduction of this water into our system and so the fact that we ran O'Neill is actually a recommendation to blend in this water with our groundwater and you know is three weeks worth of of a Production drop down from roughly a thousand twelve hundred to five hundred. So we're back on track It's it's not a big loss for the for this pilot exploration Closely working with the city there's been relatively no Technical glitches with the intertie infrastructure It's remotely controlled and automated to turn on and off We one thing that will be coming is is Updates to you on the water quality that we have been Collecting in the isolated area near Soquel and Capitola in addition We are starting this next month to do leaden copper testing at customers Houses in Soquel as part of our permit amendment. That's a requirement. So it's a little too early to really discuss That information really I'm just here to say that Logistically we transferred 27 acre feet If if we hadn't turned on O'Neill You know, maybe we'd be up to 45 40 But it you know anticipated to be roughly around to 200 250 acre feet over the course of the transfer time period and we'll just continue to keep you posted We're working with the city on on this. I think we will ultimately continue the dialogue to understand the city's cost Projections for after the the pilot is over Hopefully next winter we can expand it to a bigger part of the distribution system But we'll keep you posted. It's a little too early to say that that's gonna happen But it should be able to happen. Okay, but the plan is to you'll have two to 250 acre feet by the time we're done By April of this coming year. Yes, great. We see that as achievable and With So this is in service area one one so the plan is to There's if there's intertide between one and two correct and so are we Gonna decrease pumping where makes the most sense in those two service areas or Are right now, we're just gonna decrease it in service area one. You mean like next winter Or this winter, you know, just this winter. We're not gonna We're we're decreasing pumping in a sub set of sub area one and it's it's O'Neill Garnet and Main Street and that's to get the right blend to test It's it's more just so that we don't overflow our tanks Would to maximize the amount of water that comes in right? There's a limit. There's it. Well, it's the limit is our demand at this stage And we could it shuts it runs for about six hours the intertide during the day. So it's by far not constantly on Next winter we can if we expand the the service area It will run probably longer and we can transfer more in the water what year and Sack is willing to give it. Oh, right. There's those conditions. Correct Yeah, and then in terms of the the testing you're testing We're the we're the surface water is entering the system by assume. You're also testing other areas to see How it compares it's within the isolated distribution system There are sample stations and we're taking samples from those and then in addition to some addition of new Lead and copper houses Yeah, they qualify for that Just in case there was some change you want to rule out the possibility that there's some unusual change right we knew going into this that the The source of the water has higher organics and so We are monitoring for total trihalomethanes and halo acetic acids, so we'll share those data with you when we get them Have there been any calls about difference in odor or or taste I know that in Christine handle that one when I worked in San Francisco sometimes when they get the surface the Surface water from a different source and the HHG people would call and notice a difference We've received one complaint of a musty odor And we went to the home and tested the chlorine residual and it was it was perfect, so That's the only one we've gotten Thank you. We have four employees that are within this zone, so there also are Reporting and I haven't heard anything When I have some friends to know Good got the notice, but they didn't notice a difference. Okay Thank you Hey carry on Great. Yeah, so the next part will focus not on the River transfers, but pure water so Cal and so what we wanted to do is present some of the Material that we want to try to use to inform educate Some of the people around Shanna Clara because as Melanie will show we did a fair amount of outreach but as There are people here tonight, and we've gotten a couple other I think Request for information, so we wanted to show you what we thought we would present and get some feedback on that So I'll just kick it right off with You know you can't it always behooves us to talk about the problem and so we'll do that Y'all have seen these slides a million times But this does this shows that the state of California Designated our basin as critically overdrafted. It's 21 of out of over 500 basins It's a serious scarlet letter badge on our basin, and we have a serious problem That's also demonstrated by the next slide that we would always have to share with people is that we have seawater intrusion This is a map of Monterey Bay the gold being showing seawater intrusion down toward the Monterey all the way to highway 101 Almost in Watsonville in three miles that red bands ours. It's onshore in some spots and where it's not onshore already It's right at the shoreline So the clock is pending so that that urgency is there make you know We've had this peer reviewed and it's there's no doubt about that so where a lot of confusion I think everybody knows probably we have issues, you know with water shortage and seawater pollution so What may not be well as well known is it and we want to share the information about in 2014 the state said your basins is in such issue. You've got to form a GSA a groundwater sustainability agency and get a plan done in two years and reach Sustainability in 2040 And get on with it. Otherwise, we're gonna come in and cut everybody back So that I think setting that stage is important and you can see the boundary it actually for the mid-county groundwater basin goes out to I guess almost a highway 17 on the left side and down into almost Watsonville or Paro Valley on the right side and then inland a few miles So it's the whole area that's considered the basin, you know, so we're in this together is the hashtag We use now in addition to that this red area I thought it was very important because I live in live oak and I see some of the the chatter and concerns and you know It's all valid and we just haven't been able to communicate with these people is that if you live in live oak, you know There's several wells in live oak down at the end of Roland Drive and if you from that area and and and right They call them the belts wells in the belts wells in live oak Santa Cruz pumps water and they pump equivalent to provide about Half the water to live oak so live oak is is you know Needs the restoration of the basin together And I think this is important for shanticleer People around shanticleer and live oak because what they're thinking what we're hearing is hey This is to help you not us. Does it have any role? You know, how does it have any role with us? So we wanted to show that and this shows I think some of the wells that Santa Cruz has but next next slide And so getting that across I think it's very important that Yeah, a facility there does provide value in in and helping to restore the base in which they partially rely on also so that that's the that's kind of the problem statement and that thing apart about live oak is essentially using, you know aquifer water also then Melanie was gonna Bring up the community water plan and some other things that will run through all quickly I Think it's important to know whenever we do talk about the problem that the problem isn't just so culprit water district's problem It is the whole mid-county area and that one graphic that we showed earlier, which had all of those dots There are a lot of straws in our groundwater basin So whether you're a private well owner a mutual you get your water through a mutual system or one of the four Municipalities that are served through that groundwater basin. We are now mandated to be responsible In bringing that to sustainability Specifically for the Soquel Creek water district. Oh, what happened? For Soquel Creek water district specifically the way that our agency is Going forward with our road path to water sustainability was Done through a community process a really based informed out of environmental stewardship of Protecting the health of the groundwater basin and of course led by the scientific data that we collect and the modeling and Data has kind of driven the solutions Impaling the community. We had three core values that we kind of base as our tenants That's water reliability high water quality and timeliness to get the project done so that further see water intrusion Doesn't go forward. I Think this has been a constant message today And it continues to be as we go forward with our outreach is that the solution for basin sustainability is likely a multiple Multiple projects not just one so we do look at this as an and not or In terms of the community water plan facets, of course, we do Prioritize water conservation also about groundwater management Managing the pumping and where we're pumping from and then of course it is exploring and securing supplemental water supplies the board of directors in 2015 identified a multiple types of projects for us to evaluate recycled water projects, which is that green green icon Water transfers with the city of Santa Cruz exploring desalination with a project down in Moss landing and of course storm water capture Which would be small projects. I'm gonna control it because it's showing up funny. Oh, okay Thank you next slide Jen a great job considering the distractions Well, we want to get right from the television So specifically we're gonna delve into the pure water soak help project of those four projects that I just went through the pure water Soquel project is the project that the Soquel Creek Water District Board took as the lead agency to further evaluate The pure water Soquel project is a project that is aimed to reduce Beneficial, I'm sorry reduce ocean discharge currently about 8 million gallons a day of treated secondary effluent from the Santa Cruz regional wastewater treatment plant Goes out to the ocean. This is a sample of the water. So the wastewater that gets collected through all of the toilet flushing Laundry showers from Aptos La Selva Beach area Santa Cruz gets treated at the regional facility to secondary standards And that's that bottle right there and then that water goes out to the bay the pure water Soquel project would take that water and purify that To a standard that then would be suitable and can meet regulations to go back into the groundwater basin and Be used to recharge the basin and create a sea water barrier And Mellie I might add I know it was big early on the secondary water that would be the least Crate quality we would achieve and hopefully get tertiary or beyond if it's at this facility, but This is it. This is the secondary water that goes out to the ocean It has no odor to it or no, no, you know it smells musty So like I think our groundwater said earlier, so just in case because that's always a big issue that and lighting and traffic So we have been evaluating this project since 2015. We've done a feasibility study. We've done the environmental review and This slide here just illustrates the environmental review process that was conducted over the last two years and the notification and outreach That went through this because based upon the California Environmental Quality Act The creation of a draft and final environmental impact report has a very public process So we did notify Residents and businesses along the corridor of the project vicinity with postcards that illustrates over 7,500 postcards were sent out. We had multiple press releases websites email blast newspaper articles we did Really promote the project through Facebook and next door. We had three public meetings And we also what's not on that that I did want to share is we did hang signs and at every site location That was being under evaluation And we met with you know people right around adjacent to the facility So, you know, one of the things we hear and it's common because until till somebody Till something happens is usually too many people have too much on their plate But the point is that you know in the vicinity of that we reached out along the corridors and at each potential site But there's more work that needs to be done obviously There's a lot of questions typically that people ask us when we talk about a purification facility And what does it look like and how big is it? This is a facility that director later myself and a staff member from the city of Santa Cruz toward it was a pure water San Diego facility that Demonstration facilities basically about the size of our full-scale plan and that facility there treats about 1 million gallons per day And as you can see in terms of the the size of the racks right behind us are reverse osmosis membranes That's about the size that we're looking at for the pure water soquel project So Melanie to get perspective relative to this room. Would you say it's about the size of this room twice one half? I mean, what is it maybe three times this size? And so this is the information we think is useful and we can we want some feedback This this is some of the slides that we've been presenting and we're gonna go out farther as we go forward But in terms of the direction from the board on December 18th With the project being designed now to go forward with design and permitting what we're looking at is splitting the treatment process to be a two-fold where we would have Tertiary treatment at the city of Santa Cruz and a purification facility that would be a satellite The board has prioritized us to look at Shanna clear in addition to continue Exploring the whole purification facility at Santa Cruz Can I interrupt for a second? So tertiary treatment correct me if I'm wrong is acceptable for irrigation of organic crops organic crops and You know football athletic fields at schools whatever you park Yeah, and that's what's commonly used Scots Valley uses that Harrow is doing some of that for their organic crops. I think conventional too. Okay, but That's a great question So the plan would be to do that first step of treatment Which would be that tertiary level of treatment at the city of Santa Cruz that is a footprint currently Identified as the site where that tertiary treatment would take place The site there currently has in the top corner of that an existing tertiary facility That would we would replace with a membrane tertiary treatment the benefit that That director Jaffe had mentioned is that once that water is treated to a tertiary level Then that where that water is conveyed anywhere along that pipeline It could be used in the future if desired to irrigate along the way Schools parks golf courses or landscaping where where we're exploring right now is the prioritized Purification facility is at the Shana Clear site. This is kind of a vicinity birds-eye view of the layout Currently we are looking at the yellow box Area, which is where the pure water soquel Purification facility would go that blue strip is where the regional transportation Commission and the County of Santa Cruz have identified as a bike pedestrian Overcrossing and then also in this image is a red outline Which is where the proposed medical building is being explored for Kaiser What we've realized in the last month or so with Kaiser also coming out and talking about that proposal is that a lot of people are confused Calling us and saying oh your projects are going to be a you know Competing and know they are not we are working with Kaiser representatives. They're aware of our project. We're aware of theirs and At this point what what we're trying to explain to people is that these projects are not in conflict as I mentioned in that last slide that blue bar in the front of the Shana Clear property that we're exploring is a bike pedestrian Overcrossing these are images from the regional transportation Commission that shows a before and after that over crossing is Would be built there and and so on the bottom figure where it comes down the right that's a long Soquel in front of the Shana Clara site, right? So there's this declining ramp that kind of takes away from store frontage or any That's one of the reasons we thought this site was good because it'd be you couldn't put stores there with this kind of ramp coming down Yeah, and that's this was just approved in a I think a 10 to 12 year EIR that they did the RTC just like a week ago yeah, this County of Santa Cruz and the RTC have Contracted with a design team who is bringing that that over crossing 100% design There it is and another here's the Shana Clara lot Soquel the glass place There and then here's the bike So it's crossing the highway it does it comes over there's a dead end It comes it comes on from the other side of highway one comes up because remember you got people It's hard to pedal up high or if you want if you're in a wheelchair You want the slope to be ADA compliant? So it takes a lot of length to get what you need here and it's very important to have that I've been in a wheelchair and it's hard to get appeals, you know, you got to get that ramp Ron before you move off of that slide I think one other thing that we want to make sure that we convey to The local residents and business owners in that area They they are aware that as part of our process that the district did when we were looking at siding a purification facility Was exploring additional sites and that what there was a site that is and still on the table is the West Atlantic site at the Soquel Creek Water Districts vicinity right next door to us and In exploring additional sites to consider in the EIR We identified this property at Shana Clear with the county giving us available Lots in the area as a potential site for the purification facility because of that bike ped over crossing It was considered not a great site because of the blockage on the frontage road and in terms of meeting our needs and Traffic that would be very minimal for us to be a site that we could put into the EIR Here's the main footprint of the building and these are some other So that these are additional slides that are in the EIR these are our renderings This is an existing view as you know right now this site is pretty much vacant except for An abandoned like barn building it is used for parking in some storage. I think that the Businesses in that area rent that site out currently This slide that Ron just went to is a conceptual layout of what the facility could look like once it was completely built The landscaping that is shown there at this time Is shown there however if the bridge goes the bridge goes first and that would be the bridge This is more Yeah, I did one. I have some more details on this because we have been getting you know I think this is great. We've been getting a lot of calls. I did go to a constituent meeting for the first district and got some Questions that public members are asking and we're building into the slide deck But in terms of the layout and what it would look like here at at the Chanticleer site The typical height of the buildings or anywhere between 12 and 30 feet in height there would be The fully developed footprint is about 65,000 square feet if you only looked at the buildings and the parking in the facility themselves It's just over 15,000 square feet currently this area is zoned as M1 light industrial and Through the environmental impact analysis And identifying what those impacts would be there would be no noise or odor impacts There would be no impacts really related to traffic the only significant and unavoidable impact would be noise during construction Once the facility is in operation. There are no Significant impacts at that site the daily traffic impacts for operations of a purification facility Would be you know the coming and going of about five to six employees Plus we have identified for the purification facility that we would have youth and educational tours So we do have a lot of schools that do trips to all of our facilities And we would add this purification facility to our list of sites that schools can tour I'd like to see a water fountain there at the end of the bike ramp too since I'm a cyclist With with the project approved and moving into design and permitting We will be looking at concepts to make sure that the facility fits within the neighborhood These are just kind of you know, what if we have not gotten to this point in the project design but these are facilities that are in current operations that are Water facilities. This is a reverse osmosis desalter facility in Pleasanton at the right I mean at the top the bottom one is a recycled water facility in Washington And the bottom one as well These are some other sites. I do like that one on the top left It's an office building in Capitola, and then the bottom left one is actually the live oak business park Which houses the county Sheriff's Department and some other? The message here I think is when we talk to you know, Shannon people around Shannon Claren live oak Is that this building can reflect what what they would like to see and incorporate? Some of those attributes, so that's the main thing. There's no set thing You know, there's always a lot of questions related to what what kind of treatment is going to happen there Is the water safe? Again going back to that picture of the pure water San Diego those were the reverse osmosis membranes But really once that water gets to a tertiary level treatment the purification process includes microfiltration reverse osmosis and ultraviolet light All of these are in a self-contained system. So again, you know, there really is No odor no noise. This is the purification process that would create a water that is Pure the most bottled water higher quality than the existing treated surface water and groundwater that agencies Produce yeah, they you know I think people deserve to see at least one slide on the technology and then you know relating that back to Something like you know, if you've been to Orange County or Disneyland in the last 35 years You've been drinking this water and you the plant and actually their facilities right next to a neighborhood The Orange County one is and there's a park nearby and maybe even a school. I'm not sure but they asked them They said no issues no issues with any of this is a bottle from the Orange County facility that We got from Them they are passing this out just for education and outreach Ron actually went and spoke to a group today and brought a bottle of water And it's good for people to see and to show so they have a great relationship with water agencies And we will be getting more of these as our other Agencies that are looking at it. We likely will be getting water from the pure water Monterey project when it comes online There is a project just about 40 miles from us. That is already About two to three years ahead of us, but they are also online to do the exact same thing. It's for Purified water for groundwater replenishment the whole purpose being third in the you know independent oversight to Further demonstrate the quality of the water. That's always a question people have and it's You know great quality Hey, do you want me to talk on that one or no? Anymore you mean this one. I hadn't talked on. Oh, I thought you just did I talked about Orange County Okay, go for it. Just this I like to show this because I think this is an important slide in 2016 the board did ask us to commission the National Water Research Institute to have an advisory panel to evaluate the water quality and the removal of constituents of emerging concern and that that water would be safe and so we had Regulators professionals and toxicology and Groundwater replenishment and academics come and sit at a panel and this was an article that came out from this Santa Cruz Sentinel that gave the project basically what they called the headline was a thumbs up that the project could be protective of health and provide reliable water and Then this slide we actually did it was you know, we are actively looking at grants and low-interest loans This was a criteria that Was one of the I think Requirements of the federal grant, but it has provided also a lot of the outreach and Information for our local community just in terms of the project the pure water soquel project Would provide over 900 million dollars in economic benefits and when looking at whether or not we develop the project or not develop a project It does protect and preserve jobs and housing for our area and also when you look at the alternative of doing a project or no project It's about Threefold if the cost of not doing a project So, you know, we're one community. There's there's big benefits. I don't even think that included necessarily all So I think I'm I think I'm at the last slide But or to just in terms of a cost. I think that's always important You know, how much is the project we the project was estimated when we did our 2017 feasibility study to be 70 million dollars When you look at a project cost or you look at anything in terms of inflation the further out you go Food gas water a big large water supply project those project costs go up So when you project out to what we're looking at when we're designing and constructing and putting this project online We do see that the project would cost about 90 million dollars One of the ways again that we're looking at reducing the project cost both for our ratepayers, but also just you know Locally and for the region We're looking at grants and so we're very fortunate that we did secure over two million dollars already in planning and feasibility And we've been invited back to apply for a grant under the prop one groundwater grant specifically for seawater intrusion And that grant has is up to 15 million dollars So if we're awarded that we are looking at reducing the project cost by half The pure water soquel timeline is as you know we started this effort in 2015 and we are now looking in kind of being in the space of permitting design and hopes of bringing the project online in 2022 to meet and and achieve the goal of the state which has mandated us that the basin be sustainable by 2040 yeah, we don't stop this Saltwater pollution then cost all for all waters This last slide I just really like this you know in terms of education outreach and continual messaging You know it really is all about groundwater protection. These are some some signs or Messages locally as well as across the US the mid County groundwater agency says groundwater is a vital resource together Let's protect it the Santa Margarita groundwater agency had this on their Facebook page just last week groundwater sustainability is All our responsibility Be part of the solution not part of the pollution That was something in Texas and again another one is entering groundwater protection zone Please protect our drinking water source. I really like that So I you know what we want to do is go into the community over there and listen You know show them what we have but really listen and take back and modify things Bring back to the board. So that's it on the Santa Clara site I know some people are probably anxious to talk and we hope before you leave today You'll give us some contact information so we can reach back out to you if you want to do one-on-one or whatever We meet in kitchens. We meet in every style you can imagine I want to add to the second part of that though It's not just about Santa Clara as the board directed co-look at down and Santa Cruz and having the whole facility down there. So We we we've been doing that. We've set up meetings for Friday. We have the right players in there for that We were on a conference call today I know various people have been meeting with each other trying to explore that Not really ready to discuss much of what's coming out of that But we are following that route as you directed us to see about the feasibility of the entire Facility being down there. So more to update on that later. We just you know feedback I don't know if you want to public to speak but feedback on Yeah, of course And just quickly I thought there were some people that didn't know or were confused at the place that this water would end up and I think that might be a good dimension that great. You know what? Thank you director Daniels also on the back of the room here. We have two poster boards One is a map of the Santa Cruz groundwater Basin and the one on the right which shows where all of our wells are And where the seawater intrusion is being detected the one directly underneath the clock does have the complete project Overview and once the water is purified it would go out to recharge and seawater intrusion prevention wells The three wells that our hydrologist has identified as being the the best locations to ensure that we could replenish specific units of our aquifer Are located more in the mid-mid-county so kill Aptos area Capitola. So we have sited in our EIR. We've identified a well in Monterey Avenue in Capitola and Cumbria College Drive on and on Willow Brook Drive So those would be the three recharge locations that that purified water would go into Yeah, you know really what it boils down to is that it's a kind of a regional facility That's that is how somewhere that's serving a lot of people much like the wastewater treatment plant It's down in Santa Cruz, but it's serving the entire County right and the city so this while it's helping mid-county. It's helping live oak So it's again that kind of philosophy, but you know, we need to engage with the people in that in that neighborhood And so that's that's our you know, that's where we're headed, right? I mean, I'd like to have something that I'd like to expand on later, too But I want to make sure I get people a chance to to speak so This would be a time if anybody wants to speak on this item So please come to the podium and try to limit your comments to three minutes our usual time Hello, my name is Christine walls. I'm a live oak resident sounds really cool Seems like so Cal would want that in their neighborhood. Okay It seems like that we have comments from a neighborhood in live oak from a number of the neighbors The so-called water districts attempt to place their wastewater treatment facility in the community of live oak is a classic case of not in my backyard as well as A case of environmental just injustice the so-called village community a relatively affluent community with the median household income Above that of Santa Cruz County has protested against what sounds like a cool development of their water districts new water treatment plant in their own community Instead proposing that the plant that benefits then be constructed in live oak a lower-income community with a high proportion of minority residents None of whom are served by the Soco water Creek the Soco Creek water district We a few residents of the live oak are against the Soco Creek water district placing their wastewater treatment plant in our neighborhood for the following reasons First and foremost the live oak community will not benefit from the water treatment plant Yet creation of such a plant in live oak will have a negative impact in the community economically environmentally and socially as well as potentially having negative health and safety impacts on live oak residents There was no live oak representation in the proposal or consideration of the project. There was no outreach specifically to live oak residents regarding the proposal of Of an out-of-district wastewater treatment plant on Chanticleer According to the EIR numerous hazardous chemicals will be stored on site in quantities of up to 5,000 gallons Construction of the plant on Chanticleer site would require up to 112 112 daily truck trips to the site heavily impacting traffic and emissions in the area Compared with the maximum of 24 truck trips to the headquarters West annex and soquel Plant construction would decrease air quality increase increase ambient noise for live oak residents plant plant operations would increase Ambient noise and nocturnal ambient light for live oak residents a Soquel Creek water district wastewater treatment plant on Chanticleer lot is not in the interest of Santa Cruz County from an economic development standpoint This lot could be used in ways that directly benefit live oak residents Economically and socially disenfranchised community for example the lot could be used for a park a local business that provides jobs and tax revenue Medical offices or other community resources that support and benefit live oak residents Historically in the US communities have comprised of economic and disadvantage people and people of color have been forced to shoulder a Disproportionate burden of societies industrial facilities waste and hazardous chemical storage sites Since the Soquel Creek water district approved this project They should develop the wastewater treatment plant on a site within their district sounds like a cool site with school tours It seems like it should probably be in Soquel. Thank you Thank you. Thank you Anyone else? First of all, I just like to read anyway. She just said that was amazing. I didn't plan this much because I'm kind of broad Blindsided by this project. I guess the first of all my name is Ian Dixon. I live on Chanticleer I'm one of these people And I'm here Basically says that I just heard about this project recently. I never received any information about this I feel blindsided about it and it's like what she said. I don't understand why I'm at a Meeting for a water district that I'm not in but it's but it is something that is affecting me I don't this should even be here. I Think a big issue on that using that land is the lost cost What else could be there besides an industrial zone? I mean I Work at the elementary school. I'm the president of the homeless school club there. I'm very Integrated into the community and those people that these people that live around there And I don't know anybody who has seen who wants that to continue be an industrial area We would all rather see that be more to our commercial zone. We got staples right on one side We're gonna have probably Kaiser Permanente down there. It's gonna be an entrance from the pedestrian zone I don't think the first thing I want people seeing when they come into my neighborhood is a water treatment facility as they bicycle over here I Biggest point and I just don't understand this is it's a knot in my what this is not my water district I don't understand why this is going right next to my neighborhood. I'll yield the rest of my time. Thank you. Thank you Yeah, if we could avoid applause and just let people speak and and We don't yield time to anybody else each person can have three minutes and that's it My name is Stacy Kyle. I'm a city of Capitola resident I'm in the live-up school districts to both of my children go to live of school Which is the only California distinguished school in the county many people don't know that I Acknowledge the need I thought your presentation was very thorough first time I've seen it first time I've heard of it And I acknowledge the need for the project. I question the location I'm concerned about the process and the lack of communication and outreach to our families and We as you can we've lost some parents that were here earlier, but we're we're very sensitive until in live oak That there are projects that more affluent communities don't want in their backyard that come to live oak And so definitely outreach would be appreciated Education I work for the school district. That is a challenge for all of us to get to the community And I have some tips when you do that on how to better do that because like Like Ian I also am pretty involved and this was the first I heard of it was that at a meeting last week Real estate in live oak is at a premium and While this looks good to serve everyone in the commute in the county As live oak residents we need to be really thoughtful about what will benefit us because we don't have a lot of land to spare And we have a lot of need So I think that's my my main concern is being very thoughtful about what goes there that could be appropriate for light into industrial and And we'll best serve our community right in live oak. We're very small. So we kind of I It's a balance between what will serve us and what serves the larger greater good But I know Soquel residents had the chance to Soquel Creek Soquel Creek Water District residents had an opportunity to Support this project and didn't and now it's landed in our backyard. So So I appreciate further conversations. Thank you. You have my card, right? Okay? Anyone else? Thank you Hello, my name is Jenny. My daughter goes to live oak like some of the other parents and I found out about this Project from them again last week. I do agree with much of what everybody else has said and with regards to the outreach None of this information has been in Spanish, which is a concern for me a lot of the parents at live oak are Spanish speaking and I would just like to see the information you give in the future presentations when you go speak with these people in live oak that some of it being Spanish some of the flyers Presentations whatever may be maybe a translator even would be very helpful so they can Get the equal amount of information as well. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. My name is Gage Dayton I'm a live oak resident as well, and I appreciate the the presentation I learned a lot and and I know it's or many of them are scratched off now that said I have a lot of questions similar to what's been said earlier So as I am a live oak resident I'm here to speak against placing the advanced water treatment Facility for the pure so-called so-called water project at the shanticleer site I don't think it's appropriate site, and I don't think there's been clear communication And I don't think there's it been good outreach to our community I do not live directly adjacent to the site But I do live in live oak I follow and participate in regional and local planning efforts But put more of my focus and energy into my community live oak That's why I was aware of the pure water project and that very real problem The so-called ground water basin faces. I had no idea that the potential sites for facility was in live oak until Day before yesterday, I think And that that's a concern So I appreciate the outreach effort that will be made, but I question why the site isn't going on District owned property adjacent to it Live oak as other people have mentioned live oak has very few remaining opportunities for economic rec and recreational development We are a community where those are going away very quickly and so they're important resource And there's just simply not that many left for us Using one of the prime remaining locations live oak has for these kind of development or recreational opportunities For a facility for so-called while I understand the regional Impact it is largely for so cal It will rob us a lot of short-term impacts I think the IR has addressed some of those that are Greater at the Shana clear site than at the West annex site But it will rob us of future long-term opportunities For the rest of our lives and and that's a big deal and those are opportunities that would better meet our community's needs and desires and provide an economic boost To one of the more economically challenged neighborhoods in our area and and I believe the so-called creek water district Purchased the I think the West annex property. Is that correct? Is that own and it's adjacent to the so-called So that seems like a much better place to me. I Understand the concern from the so-called community who voiced their opposition to locating the treatment plant in their backyard We don't want an ours either And this is the first opportunity you're hearing from a lot of live-up people because we just haven't heard about it and and So clearly again, I think that our reach hasn't been impact error Accomplished its goal, and I think that's a big deal in the EIR as well so Well, it hasn't Reached us. I urge you to you know Continue with this discussion and the board to seriously consider not putting the plant at Shana clear And we may be even reconsidering the West annex site It seems like from a naive perspective just looking at it at the 10,000 foot level that seems like the appropriate site And I'm not clear why that site wasn't chosen Thank you. Thank you My name is Nancy Stucker, and I live in Soquel and I would like to voice my agreement with all the points made in the email from Martian Noren To supervisor John Leopold that were included in the board document item 7.1 and I believe that all the points that she makes are valid and I support the board's resolution to not prioritize project development and siting at the West annex site Supervisor Leopold talks about good urban planning and I believe that good urban planning involves respecting residential zoning and not locating the treatment plant in a high-density Residentially-zoned neighborhood where it would be surrounded on all four sides by homes So In addition the land that the district has purchased at the West Annex site is on Capitola Avenue And it is located within the boundaries of the Soquel village plan and does not Which does not align? With the vision of a water treatment plant nor does the general plan For this particular parcel, so I'm hopeful that you'll continue to pursue non-residentially-zoned sites for the pure water Soquel project. Thank you Thank you Hi, my name is Jane Paradise and I live on Rosedale Avenue right next to the West Annex site And I really appreciate hearing from all the shanticleer residences tonight because We in our neighborhood Are go went through what they're going through two and a half three years ago when we found out that the West Annex site which is residentially-zoned That the district was planning on using that for their water treatment recycling facility and we are We hundreds of Residences over the of the district we worked hard with the district to find different locations. There were 24 other sites and Narrowed it down to 12 and we Would we wrote letters saying to the board that the South O'Dayl Gulch Road, which is embedded within an industrial park right next to highway one was a very appropriate location for this type of project and And we never found out why that wasn't chosen Instead There was a committee formed and a couple of board members were on it I think Carla and Rachel were on it and they decided to put shanticleer on instead But that was not we were not to say that we're being we were Being nimby through this process is you know for anyone who knows the history Including the board members to say that we're being nimby about this is really not It's unconscionable Really to try to represent our neighborhood It's This West Anoxide is has residences zone I'm for all four sides People share fences that were right next to it including up on the hill And so the Soquel village plan It so anything that goes there at that location is violating the Soquel village plan and the general plan Which the district is not exempt from and the EIR the final EIR supports these findings And I appreciate those board members that have Been open and now understand the importance of why these zoning inappropriately locating these Types of facilities so again, I appreciate everyone Communicating and I look forward towards the district Continuing to educate not only the shant because I keep asking that but I didn't hear the board really giving them the context of the bet It's not only how it's owned But the actual context And I'm thank you. Yes, and I'm welcome to give you the zoning Requirements. Thank you very much Thank You Becky Steinbrunner resident of the community of Aptos I also have a protest letter what I gave on the staff before was actually a letter asking you to Reconsider and rescind your decision to approve resolutions One eight one one eight thirty and one eight thirty one for those of the Shanticleer people and anybody else listening I really encourage you to go to the water for Santa Cruz comm Website and really find out that there are options to this project There are options that don't divide the community like what this project is doing here tonight and It does not present health problems to the community It does not take massive amounts of energy for reverse osmosis I want to have you clarify please for the shanticleer people that These reverse osmosis pumps would be in vaults as has been said But that needs to clear be clarified because having visited the zanker site in San Jose Those are all pumps are very very noisy. I Want to ask you to completely? Recind the decision that you made approving the project and Certifying as complete the EIR and here are my reasons There was new information presented at the meeting One was by director Lather that she has knowledge of asbestos in the area She had great concerns about Well, that's what you said don't laugh. That's what you said And also where you can clarify, but let me have my time You also talked about your concerns of the historic use of the property and potential contamination. That was new information Supervisor Leopold also came and said that he does not support the use of the shanticleer site That's new information because he also brought up the Kaiser medical facility. That's new information Under the vineyard area citizens for responsible growth versus the city of Cordova new information must be Available to be commented on by the public So your board needs to at least give the public a chance to comment on the new Information that was presented. You can shake your head. No, it's all right I'm trying to really drive home here and And I'm seeing a meeting with a wall And and this is matching what you how you regarded the water transfers earlier John Laird talked about regional cooperation conjunctive use. You don't have to do this project The city of Santa Cruz The city of Santa Cruz is willing to work with you. You just have to be willing to work with them and the public Thank you so much And I'm Monica McGuire again coming to say add on what Becky was just saying because it is absolutely Not a good reason that you've each given me that I've heard from mr. Duncan as well that the supposed reason for not doing the regional Water transfers and the regional work is that you don't trust Santa Cruz City. That is not a good reason Mediation and plenty of other opportunities exist to save the extreme costs of the pure water which again is unnecessarily dividing the community here Ms. Lader you also Miss spoke again more misinformation as I saw throughout this presentation When you said that your water bill was going to go from a dollar to a dollar ten Again, not counting the 24 percent Rate increases recently there will be a nine percent increase per year for five years So how you can say it's going to go from a dollar to a dollar ten and think that you're correcting the record Makes no sense to anyone with basic math skills There's so much that again It's never been addressed that you again tried to highlight that you did these community outreach meetings Which I went to and they were as negative as this experience where there's three minutes to speak and supposedly no cross talk The the this doesn't qualify as a community way of discussing or outreach And those meetings did not either and the overall that the water transfer system could have been used Years ago as much as a decade ago in order to refill the aquifer That's terrible mismanagement and most people understand that if they finally get to hear it But you keep misrepresenting the facts to make it look as though you didn't have that option and again You're shaking your head, but we don't get any response with our concerns that we raise and ask about Why on earth? You're still not letting the water transfer pilot project at least continue in order to show How much that can do and to take all the necessary human What we would expect of a board of directors human capable Steps to go and speak with the other people in a way that anyone else can do in 2019 it isn't a good Representation what you're putting out and that is so frustrating and it's unnecessary expense and Dividing the community while counting on the it seems counting on the fact that people are not stepping forward because they're so over busy with their lives Waiting is the only prudent thing to do Waiting until you see how well the water transfers couldn't negate the need could I don't know it can for sure and We won't mind paying for an extreme expense cost of the what you call pure water system If it's true that water transfers can't handle it. Thank you Offer still there to talk after the meeting. I think it's really important to take seriously the comments of the people from so kill Becky Steinbruner Monica McGuire and I Can't help but thinking of this book That puts in a framework of what we're hearing tonight It's called toxic sludge.  There are other options There are some quotes in this book that stayed in my mind one is Alex Kerry was his name not the actor and he said the 20th century It's been characterized by three developments of great political importance The growth of democracy the growth of corporate power and the growth of corporate Propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power Against democracy One of these corporate propaganda firms and they work hand-in-hand with the corporations Selling us products or forcing these products on the community This at the time was first and Mars teller and they said the role of our communication is to manage Perceptions which motivates behavior to create business results so the perception being presented here is that This is a wonderful Project it's gonna solve all the problems and it's flawless well Remember how we told D we're told DDT is good for us asbestos is great Let it gasoline how many times have we been? Manipulated into thinking That toxic chemicals are good for us This is not a good project in Terms of the well-being of the community or the quality of the water which we're talking about defending. I feel like this It's huge corporate propaganda and at one of your workshops You had a slide that I want a copy of and it listed all corporations Involved in this type of a project. How do I get a copy of that? Thank you. No, thank you Anyone else? Thank you Hi, my name is Kurt Sonan I'm also a live oak resident and I echo all the same concerns that the other residents from live oak Have expressed here tonight. I I strongly support water districts and all the efforts that you all make and Seeking out long-term water supply improvement projects I also support in concept your Your your water purification and recharge project However, I strongly opposed the location of the site for the plant itself I also was not aware of the project until just a few days ago and intend to Be more active and and as this process is moving forward and ensuring that the district strongly considers other properties other than here In live oak on the Chanticleer site for this particular Water treatment facility I view that particular corridor between on highway one between so Cal and 41st is Viable redevelopment opportunity for the county and seeing it cited as a potential Industrial wastewater treatment plan. I think is not the best use for the community And I think with that and said I don't want to take any other time I just wanted to go on record to make sure that you are aware that I support everything that all the other live oak residents I've said here tonight. Thank you. Thank you Anyone else? My name is Eric blumstrand. I too also live in live oak I've really applaud the effort that you guys are doing to try and abate the encroachment of the salt water. I think that it's a An issue of our times, you know and the again though I do think that I I don't have any issues with the project itself But I do have issues with the the Chanticleer location for a number of the reasons that we've spoke about before as a community and It's there's there's a much more viable area for our our community to bring more community and Rather than having an industrial Water treatment plant and I just wanted to go on records as saying as such and again it is something that we've just recently heard about and I I Have to lay the blame with the Soquel Creek water district for not actually reaching out to our community and Telling us that we're going to be having something put in our backyard that is not wanted by the the water district in Soquel so Please reach out to us a little bit more so But I don't I still can't see any reason why this should go in the live oak area As opposed to Soquel if it is such a beautiful site that's going to be there. Why not in Soquel? Thank you. Thank you Okay seeing no other speakers Thank you all for for letting your thoughts be known I'll bring it back to the board if they want to say anything. This is just an informational item There's no decisions to be made tonight. I was wanting to talk about something myself I've been outgoing and doing some outreach and talking to people and What I'm seeing a lot of and I think we saw it some in our comments is that there are a lot of people that are really I May not know all the details, but they're in love with this notion of you know the aquifer Transfer and then return notion that that would be worked, you know, it's the city of Santa Cruz's plan But it would also apply to live oak. I assume and that has to do with you know in Wet years they would send excess water into some groundwater basin and then in drought years They'd go and take it back to the city and the thing that concerns me about that is that you know in those drought years We normally use about a billion gallons of water for our customers each year and the city has Determined that in a drought year they need 1.2 billion gallons to go back to them to make up for the deficit because of the drought so that's too over 2 billion gallons going out of the basin and Given that it's a drought there's not going to be much rain. Therefore isn't going to be much recharge So that's not going to happen and then since it's also a drought year and the river's low and and The city needs as much of it as they can get. There's not much recharge But maybe even none coming from the city that way So no water going in 2 billion gallons going out and so what would that do and I was able to do a little research On that and I'll show you some of the slides. I've come up with so if you could bring slide number one up This is some work that was done in Scotts Valley. They also are considering a Recycled water plant there and so what you see here are the groundwater levels of an area in Scotts Valley And at the beginning there on the left-hand side and by the way groundwater elevations go up and down on the left-hand side and Years go across the bottom and you see that first year year zero. They start putting in 600 acre feet that's about a million gallons of water and Each year you see it's going up and up and it starts going slower and slower and eventually it Flattens out and it they're still putting in 600 acre feet every single year, but it's not going up any and so That means a couple of things for one thing. It means since the water level means also How much volume is in the basin since it's not going up? There's no additional volume beings being saved So there's a limit to its its level and therefore there's a limit to how much water is going to be in there now a lot of Folks ask, okay. Well, you know, why is that so let's let's go to slide number two So at the same time the water levels are going up in the basin You see stream flow here is also going up and it comes goes up slowly at first because most of the water is going Into the basin and then over time it starts going higher and higher and higher and so at that point What's happening is you put 600 acre feet in and 600 acre feet we leaks out Why that is the case is you know the stream is here as the groundwater levels go up the slope to the stream increases Therefore more and more of the water flows out to the stream and here that would happen to Soquel Creek and Aptos Creek and the ocean So over time more and more of the water you add goes out. In fact at some point you can saturate it So that all the water goes out So the next question would be okay. Well, so we were limited so we can only put this amount in but a lot of people have thought Well, you know once we get the basin restored we're done. Everything's fine.  We don't put any more water in Well, it's still leaking out through the streams and the ocean and so forth So it goes right back down again. In fact, it basically ends up right back where it started from if you don't do anything about it So not putting water into the basin when you get it up there means you're gonna start losing it So you have to continuously do that So for example, if you have a dry ear and you can't put 600 acre feet in it's gonna start going back down a little bit You can't put any in for some reason like it's a really severe drought. It'll go down pretty significantly So that that says something about this basin and how you can use it and what it's capable of and and the requirements of how You can properly use it Next slide Now let's say you actually want to use it like the city wants to use it and you when you have a drought You want to take out your you know 1.2 billion gallons of water? So that's what this model does it's another model from scott's valley And you see the blue line goes up there just like it did before and then it gets you know Quarter of the way over and there's a drought so you can see that kind of gray line going down there So within two years, it's down below significantly where it started before and So you would end they can do it in scott's valley It would mean they'd lose a bunch of their water, but if we do that here that would suck salt water in like crazy Because it's it's down well below public protective levels So that's that model is my concern and now I want to go to slide number five to show you this isn't just fun and This is a part of a report that was presented to the Sustainable groundwater agency that we're on the city's on central waters on the county's waters on and Just scroll down there and they are saying This was by the way submitted by the city. These are some of the models the city is running to test out there You know Send water over and get it back and it says some modeling results presented to the advisory committee indicated water levels and key Monitoring levels dropping below protective elevations during periods of drought withdrawals So the city is finding out exactly what I found that if in fact I say Because a lot of these people think well It's an either or either if we are to build our project and then we're abandoning the city And they're gonna you know not have any water and they can't build their their Wasak plan But I think it's quite the opposite the only way to build wasack one is to have Something going into the basin all the time our plant will be able to put half a billion gallons into the basin Every single year whether there's a drought or no drought or anything That goes into the basin and that can be the key to allowing that happen Without the aquifer being damaged by taking the two billion gallons out and nothing going in So I think this is kind of a good thing to have because I think this is something that we can use to convince Some people that it's not an either or but it's rather an and that having something going into the basin in those drought Years may be the only thing that allows anything to happen without this We may not be able to do either the pure water project or the wasack project because both of them by themselves Would damage the basin it's only by doing both of them together that we can make this work I mean everyone talks about working together. This would be working together Whether you just do wasack or just do our thing. That's not walking to get working together. That's fighting That means our lawyers go up against their lawyers and we spend all our lives in court and nothing happens with water only by doing this About having us work together and having two sources of supply, you know conjunctive uses as Ron is always talking about That's the only thing that makes this work, and I just want to add on is and that affects since Santa not just Santa Cruz But live oak also gets its water from the city of Santa Cruz and they're much more likely to be able to get water in multiple drought years if we have this continual Supply going in to recharge the basin. So I think it really benefits everybody Santa Cruz and and live oak and so Cal and Capitola and Aptos so I Just and it also even benefits, you know, if they can get water On a more consistent basis because we have water in the aquifer that's going to protect extractions from Streams and rivers that then can be allowed to still protect fish too in some of those critical times So I just wanted to add on to that So I'm going to make these things. I'll give them to the staff. So any of you who are doing toxic, you know Yeah, to people. I mean, I think this is the one thing that shows. It's not an either or it's an and I don't have any slides But I've heard multiple times Through the course of being on the board well too many years Not too many years, but many years regional solutions is Is the way to go and It's not easy to do that because everyone gets territorial And looks out for their own interests first and it's only when there's trust and when there's really Back and forth That's fairly constant that you can get to that regional solutions and I just want to let the other board members know Well, first of all, there's the mid-county groundwater agency Where there people are meeting both of the agency itself and then there's a sustainable groundwater plan advisory committee we're where there's a group of I Think it's about a dozen or so with private pumpers Our district the county People are representing firemen people representing Different aspects of the whole problem Meeting and coming up with that, you know getting a plan together and Something that the board doesn't know is that I'm working On trying to strengthen relationships with Santa Cruz By talking individually with with elected officials with Wausack people People that we might think are against us, but what I'm finding out is No, they're not so Until something's in writing you can't count on it, but I'm optimistic that regional solutions really are possible and so and one one aspect of regional solution Is with the the the water purification plant the location of it is if it's in Santa Cruz, I think That that lends itself to regional solutions because Santa Cruz I Think there's a real possibility that they're going to need to go to to Water purification at some point and having the plant there will help them as well as help the district so I'm pursuing that I Just wanted to let the board know that you know, I've probably spent Not a lot of time, but maybe 20 hours or 30 hours meeting with people Just trying to strengthen those relationships Thank you. I'd like to add one thing. I didn't mention here. This is modeling results done by the city But they use a different climate model than the Wausack that sorry than than the Sigma has used The one we use is very it's like a 10% reduction in precipitation This one is only like a one or two percent reduction in precipitation If this doesn't work and as I think you know climate change is going to be very severe. This will be even worse Okay, oh Yeah, I just wanted to comment that I regret extremely The amount of misinformation that's been allowed to circulate because we didn't do an adequate outreach on you know the To live oak, you know, I'd I've lived in this area for 30 years and including in live oak itself But you know in the 80s and I've seen that watch Unchanged for 30 years and then suddenly, you know, what it looks like an ideal opportunity to Enhance the neighborhood. It's now in competition. I guess there must be some other building proposals or park proposals going in right there I never thought of those that lot as a Likely place that would have for park or something like that because it had been used it had such a long history of industrial use And this and I also like to contradict The idea that this purification plant Is high industrial. It is a low industrial plant These recycling plants have been located in residential areas in other communities with no ill effects with no noise light chemical spills Undue traffic. This is not a high impact In the industry this water purification that I realize From hearing all of you that how much work we need To show you and it might even be worthwhile to organize some trips to some of the nearby Recycling plants. There's one now going in and Down South County in Monter County and there's one over the hill in Santa Clara The the one in Santa Clara is enormous compared to the proposed plant here But it you know it giving an idea of the kind of thing that it would be. There's not moving parts There's no clanging years. There's no oil oil fumes contaminating this this project would involve Using green energy would be the energy that's used for The reverse osmosis process which is the highest the highest use of energy in the whole process So but I can really see I do apologize that we didn't And I know how that can happen. I didn't know anything about the kaiser proposal that was Going in next store proposed to the next store until quite recently myself. So it just I think in general we all have to do better Okay, I guess I can talk okay So I I was the one who voted against putting it in the shanticleer side and I Believe that this project is a great opportunity to enhance the neighborhood and make it look nice while still producing water I Would rather be convincing people that live in our district rather than outside of the district and that's why I voted against The the project because of that Um, I don't think it's industrial. I think it's it could be beautiful. I'd want it in my backyard It's just in my backyard. It's too far south. So it wasn't a good location I don't have any problems with the idea of it being in a community and I think explaining that to all of you is great, but There is still an issue where I think we should have it near our offices and on our property and in our own district It's a strong belief I have it's more of my own personal I don't know if ethics the right word, but It's just a belief that I have now the other part is that I'm I kind of laughed earlier because I realized that certain information that came out of my mouth was used from four different conversations and put into one piece of information that sounded like a new fact and I was confused But um, there is no new information for the eir It was anecdotal information about a construction project. I did on a sewer Somewhere not even close to your Your um lot it was on soquel, but it wasn't That particular site I think that you know I mean I get I came here and I wanted to be on this board because I believed in conjunctive use I believed in taking every piece of water that we could get And using it a second time because that's what We're doing anyway. We just don't realize it The earth is recycling our water every time we use it when we put it into our septic systems It's going into our groundwater when we put it in the ocean It's still going up in the air and it's coming back down as rain, but not necessarily here At least with this project. We know that it's going to be here And I also want to look at storm water and everything else, but that's a whole other subject okay I think we can move on to the next item. Thank you for coming. Yes. Thank you And we will keep talking Item 6.3 variants options Leslie did you Leslie? Did you want to come here? No, that's okay. I can take it right here So just to give a little bit a little bit of background on our on our single family rate structure Currently our single family Fixed meter charge Is the same regardless of whether you have a 5 8 5 8 inch meter a 3 quarter inch meter or a 1 inch meter Now during the course of this last rate study Our rate consultant Encouraged us to take a look at this and in order to maintain equity under prop 218 Their recommendation was that we charge our single family Fixed service charge the same way we would do our commercial irrigation or multifamily Meaning that it would be different for a 5 8 centimeter and a 1 inch meter So the impact of that on our 1 inch Single family residential customers is an increase of a little over 50 dollars a month just on the fixed service charge component So what we decided to do was take a quick look at what type of customers make up those 1 inch single family residential meters And we discovered that there's about four different profiles The first type of customer is a customer who has a 1 inch meter because at the time their subdivision was put in The fire department required a 1 inch meter to meet fire flow requirements So they have a private fire suppression system in their homes But they weren't the 5 8 inch meter and 2 inch fire service line like some of the other subdivisions They were just a 1 inch service line that meets both fire and and residential use requirements The other type of customer is Customer on an older parcel who has a 1 inch meter that may no longer need a 1 inch meter to meet their needs So, um, we know that there's some of those like up on vista del mar We've had other customers call in and say listen. I've got a 1 inch meter. I don't know why I have an older home and it's just always been the case Then we have other residential units that are Duplexes or two residential units on a single parcel that are sharing a 1 inch meter And then we have other parcels that are served by a 1 inch meter And it might be appropriate that they are because of the number of fixtures or the size of the Score footage of the home or the size of the lot So we took a look at these different customer profiles And we identified some variants options that we might be able to offer them If they were to request a variance from that 1 inch service charge For those customers that have a 1 inch service that's designed to meet fire flow Our recommendation would be to go ahead and set up a special service rate That charge them for a 5 8 inch residential service and a 1 1 inch fire service Now if they're an older home that has a 1 inch meter that could be served by a 5 8 inch meter Our recommendation is to maybe downsize them to a 5 8 inch meter And waive the meter drop in fee The other one is a two residential unit or a duplex And we could offer those individuals the opportunity to go ahead and split their service Into two 5 8 inch services. They'd be subject to service charges on both on both meters then But it would get them out from underneath that larger 1 inch charge We could offer to waive the meter drop in fees for them But they would have to foot the bill for the construction cost to split their service And then the last one is a 1 inch meter For serving a parcel that actually requires a 1 inch meter And for those people we would go ahead and have them retain their 1 inch meter So we identified about 250 customers that have a 1 inch meter. We don't how we don't know how many customers Meet each of these different profiles, however Metrics were never kept on that. So we all we know is we have about 250 customers who have the 1 inch meter So our thought would be that we go ahead and send a notice to all these customers that if they Were interested in requesting a variance from that 1 inch service charge They could go ahead and contact us And we could apply one of these remedies So it wouldn't be across the board. It would be at the request of the customer So what we're asking here tonight is whether or not Those customer profiles and those variance remedies Could be approved And whether we can go ahead and send out notification to those customers that that opportunity is available to them Great. Thank you Any questions Any questions right now So waving the meter drop-in fee, what's that normal cost? That is about That is uh about 200. What is a meter drop-in fee Taj? Is it Yeah, it's gonna say about 250 2.99. Okay. Thank you. Shelly. Any other questions? Okay, does anybody from the public wish to address us on this item? Okay, seeing none any I move that we approve any and all Second Moved in second. No, I think it's a good solution. Yeah, great. Thank you very much for researching that and thinking it through Very thoughtful Yep, so we need to vote. All right, so all in favor. All right. I posed Great. All right.  I am I'm currently I'm just asking you the logical uh have logical priority Um, I'd love to actually I'd have to find out if I can Do that I move that we nominate You have to find out. I have to find out. Oh, yeah. I have to find out first. I think um Do you have to do it today? I don't know. Oh, you can. Um, I'll be able to do it next time. February 22nd I need to just check with my employer that I could regularly At what type of time commitment is it? Yeah So the meetings are once a month Um, she's currently just was chosen as the public or you know the public Well, no, that's the alternate. Yeah And then I'm going to a meeting. Yes. Yes. I've gone and I've actually Covered for him when he couldn't go but she covered one meeting for me. Um And there's a once a month like from 10 to Whenever and sometimes there's extra things like we're just selecting a new executive officer, which took quite a bit Yeah In my big been there for Almost 40 years is retiring. So whenever it's during the day Pretend to win 10 to 12. Yeah The the problem for me would be that I Don't know if I can take the time off. Yeah Maybe you if you're going to take it on with one of one of us being an all alternate, would you be willing to do that? I'd have to first see with my employer since I just got a new job I have another meeting to come. So why don't you come up and I do it?  Okay Thank you And 6.5 6.5. Yeah, so 6.5 Before we do that. This is a year in review and somebody could grab melanie Because this is her thing, but maybe we just play it. We have a little because it's kind of an appreciation of The work that staff and the board have been doing Is Is there anybody out here left-handed? I thought you are you are It's a left-handed token It is a left-handed token Scissors is the only thing I've ever All cups are right on there ceramic handmade mugs with the Soakville Creek Water District logo on it. Oh, beautiful You You forgot to mention the most important part my son August Duncan made it On there somewhere We're all trying to think of something that would be good for you Pretty cool. Yeah. Thanks. And uh, he's uh quite the ceramicist And uh, what's handed? So That's really nice. Thank you. Thank your son. Yeah, that's cool. Was that on the agenda? Is that uh, it wasn't on the agenda, but it's in the vein of uh, gratitude and and From all of us we brainstormed If Bob was here, I'd ask whether we're able to accept gifts Up to a certain amount now do we have to do public these were public comment on that? Uh, yeah, thank you. Yeah Great and so with that They've put together a little video that is for part of our outreach. I think melanie. Is that right? Is that how you're using it? This one out is a video with our monthly e-blast for january Yeah, and then when I saw it, which I didn't even know it was made I said, I thought the board would appreciate that she may have seen it Uh, and you know looked at some of our e-blasts, but here it is tonight. Uh, just a couple minutes Up until today Vi was like, oh, let me add a couple more slides. Let me add a couple more slides and You know, we've done a lot I really want to appreciate and kind of just thank the managers who provided all of the information for us to put into there and For the leadership and guidance that the board has provided so that we can have all of those accomplishments Yeah, and the community for their input along the way. It's not always easy, but you know, it makes us better We can listen and Clues where appropriate Great. Thank you Appreciate it and the mugs are great Written communications and correspondence any Hang on that Anyone in the public wish to speak on that Thank you Then we have no closed session and so we will adjourn until the next meeting Thank you. Thank you in february. I think it's the fifth