Don't understand better on how that works. So I'm playing with the topic of it a little bit But I'm trying to get banned.  Does that make sense in your like perfect world? Do you think you should be able to do it though? um So Sensitive topic. Mm-hmm. Yes, but it depends what? Right, and I think we're a little bit ahead of the industry because I think down the line I predict a strong change that I'll talk about later if you want Um, I think it's a bit too fast, but yeah, but it just depends what the selection is you have to be able to the selection Okay So like I assume you're similar with destiny Maybe and I'm not sure if it's on as a position But like it's it's partly to do with your position on copyright like an IP.  And what I don't I don't really use it as a moral compass and a morality and the gallery are two come different Areas entirely and he will mix them together whenever they if it's their narrative and sometimes they don't I think Playing that little push-and-pull game is really cringe That's my actual take. I think that's totally fair Let's stay fully away from from the law will stick strictly to morals But what I mean then when I say is like a lot of people think morally speaking that we should have rights to our intellectual property, right like the Morally, yeah, so gunning straight from that I think the whatever I create and whatever you guys create whatever anyone creates There should be a limit on before anyone can reuse it for their own purposes Yeah, you know a crazy extent or to Smaller extent and then of course we all have lines on where we consider it transformative But I assume you're in favor of that at least to some degree. Yeah Cuz like you wouldn't want people re-uploading everything you do without adding to it and making money off it I assume You have to be really careful when you ask Especially big streamers that question cuz I'm pretty sure excuse to even me.  That's right there But other than that not even if people got more views than me I would just consider a really good exposure and that's the most important thing for me as a streamer is exposure So yeah, and I thought about that. No, no that wouldn't that happen to me. I just hired him That's it. I just hired the guy, right? If he gets ahead of me overall, it is a good job. And if it is a good job, why wouldn't I have it on my team instead, right? It's my content and so we get a better job. I'm gonna hire him then. What if they refuse? Um It's refused it sucks It never happened before because a lot of people that do that are fans of the content So they just do it and it's more money for everybody else because we can convert everything together It better for the algorithm, but if a revenue, but if everything there's no there's no arguments against it You would experience some form of benefit I wouldn't deny that but like if it was ultimately proven that they were still getting most of the money And you weren't especially on platforms you might not even be interested in you're just gonna let it sort of happen in the hopes That it will benefit you ultimately Okay, that that I don't think this that's ever I've never encountered that Um Ecosystem right so I think some of these hypotheticals hypotheticals don't are Tough for them to find that one of them in the real world, right? Mm-hmm like that doesn't happen But often it has happened to be before and I've been seen it before so it's kind of difficult to make it an assumption or On how that would be like right? Okay So it's difficult to almost you have some data or something or an example you want to show me wait So it sounds like you're hyper progressive on the idea of people being able to move Content around but that you want like an exclusive sort of even if it's a day Access to for audiences to come to you first Yeah, yeah, and you know what it's a good topic if you bring that up, right? Because people think that like consumers are really dumb about that, right? And when we don't know about that it's actually worse for us somehow because we it's all about live engagement for us right so things are in real time and sometimes When things are live and very personal and aren't really meant to be shared except for this I want these rooms to be to be here for the reasons that are like for interactivity like poles and can be an engagement that It's me bad to have like how do you call that? People react live because it's gonna it's gonna really cannibalize not only the viewer and analytics It's gonna cannibalize the actual core experience and it'll damage the product Which doesn't happen at all with videos? Especially if you put a buffer in between the rules released and then reacted to and then uploaded So if we then implemented that what do you think the consequences would be sort of industry-wide or worldwide with media? Like if we were all if copyright only lasted one day Oh one day is that an example man? Whatever timeline you want to go with that's less than let's say a week I think should be tailored to whatever the person wants because mr. Beast wants it to be immediate And other guys want to be six months other guys want to be if never so it's very difficult to find what people want as a whole as As a as a medium and you would I think it's case that case Well, so there's an angle that if we were to actually run that in like a worldwide setting the Corporations would dominate because they would be able to find ways of basically absorbing all of the best content That's made and then the incentives to create said best content would start to less and less and because people can't control their own Engagement instead it would all go to content sort of curators Absolutely, and we should go in those directions I think when these become a problem because then it becomes out of balance Which I don't think and be a shown yet at all and I'm waiting for somebody to show me that it's it's a it's bad Well, so I haven't I haven't seen it I don't think it would be out of balance yet because this is very much on the lower levels This is just some content creators that are more engaged with and then some of the ones at the top being able to Snip from ones that are lower to mid or ones that have given position at the top as well Like this is the beginning I think you you mentioned right you assume that this is gonna change as time goes on I believe for the worse you believe for the better 100% wonder why Joe because people enjoy it people like it It's a product people consume it at mass And I think we owe it to ourselves to explore these options that are shutting away as far as we can because of oh my god The small guy might be losing money, and I think it's a really fucking stupid argument And we're losing on value We're losing on actual human enjoyment and people realize that once the money aligns up with that Do you like people didn't write react?  Yeah, give me an example Any any like I would say I would start with extremes like maybe people want to watch Well, maybe people want to watch two kids fight to death.  I'm canceled by smuggler.   Where crime because the DMCA right theoretically if what you were doing is illegal, I don't think you still think it'd be wrong, right? I mean, yeah, like I we already approach the illegal aspect of it But I think as a for that topic it. Oh my god, I did I I think I think that Some things just just aren't enforced and for a good reason Right, and they compare that to something that is massive enforced enforced at a hundred percent rate And for the right reasons as well is pretty disingenuous of a pathway for an argument So of course, I would start to bring it down and be like so we do agree There are times when even if the audience desperately want it as a whole we don't allow it to happen Yes, like so why do we allow something like what you might do with let's say a lemon or video versus Something else and I would be like we do kind of allow in a good way for Reactors or responders, however people want to use the term to convert videos from whatever they were into something new But that there's obviously going to be the Was I correct in I think you you already said actually you're fine with a full re-upload because you would just either buy the channel out or They're allowed to do it as long as it's like a week after whatever Um Okay, so my take on that is kind of kind of complicated So it depends what the nature of the content is right that thing.  And I'm a regular and I'm like well I have to be very much transformed by this content. I really I don't want to hurt the guy Copyright ownership of this I'm gonna go full cam for 10 minutes After the intro of the movie and then I will have a take about the story After it happened, right and it's like well the whole thing is important, right? I want to talk about the whole thing I want to show it with chat. I want to I want to I want to go the entire thing is every part is important Right the every part is important. Otherwise like it doesn't make sense like it's gonna be like okay I'm writing to this at the beginning it Right and it's like oh well. I can't react because they're talking about something in so I cut the whole part out It doesn't it makes no sense at all like it's zero as much as that logic could be used for a lot of things Someone could extend it really far being like I need this 20 minutes of context before I can talk about the thing I want to talk about for one minute and then you know go on from that like an hour ratio to five minutes or whatever Whereas I would be like if you are unable to provide content beyond that limit Then it shouldn't be a video you respond to you should you just find someone that's better It's why it's why I don't upload the videos. I don't think that much. I try to tell my viewers on the fly Yeah, don't put this don't do that one. Don't do this. Don't do that because sometimes you it's only at the back It's like it's live content. I'm not I'm not a visionary. I don't or a savante. I don't see In the future, it's gonna be good or not. I just watch it and if it ends up being not very very reactive Okay, don't don't don't load it because it's whatever right, but you're okay. We're doing it on stream because it's a different platform Because I think people overall accepted more as an argument right, but I really wouldn't give a fuck it to me It doesn't really matter like it Yeah, because to try and clean it up I start and stop at transformative Transform it or don't as in transform it and you're fine or don't and don't do it at all Rather than we sort of try it out on stream fully and if it didn't work Oh, well, we don't upload it to YouTube, but we still benefited fully from the video on the stream I still think or benefit is fully. I mean at that point.  Does that does that make it any like does that like I don't think it's a very well But that would still be that's your responsibility not the videos Yeah, but they damaged a video to that point did it did it did it ruin them or fucked them over in a way They're like I'm doing that because I don't want to make my own content something or like I feel like it's not it's a bad I think it's an argument in bad faither if if you're saying like the video wasn't interesting enough and thus chat got bored And I couldn't react much to it. Therefore I lost out. It's like well, that's still on you as an entertainer, right? Yeah, I understand it But I'm just saying like don't make the opposite argument because I because I'm making that point Like don't yeah, there's no point doing a 180 here on it because I can't prove the opposites Are you saying that like I can't say that you still benefited? Yeah, yeah, exactly. I still think they were gonna get something out of it Well, I like it or not, you know, check our board or not. That makes sense Like so my argument would be that you passed over and like the term babysitting comes up, right? You've passed it over to someone else and then they failed to entertain your audience and now you're saying it's their fault It'll be your fault. So oh never that's I mean I can make that argument and be disingenuous about it and I do sometimes they just had fucking with it, but um Like I don't I don't actually believe that Okay, so then that's what I'm saying by you will always benefit because either You get all of the entertainment value from them or that they failed to entertain your audience and that you just move on Like there's no there's no negative. That's just neutral Yeah, yeah, those that get something out of it. I mean, let's be honest if they got bored They wouldn't watch it themselves either. They would they would literally yeah, click on it I think that I think there's a positive and my negative is a positive for them, right?   I think it's just mean or it's useless, you know Considering what you just said right that the if the video was boring, they're not gonna go seek it out Wouldn't your negative also be the content creators original categories as negative as well Now they'll be thought of as a boring creator that your channel. No, no, no because no because I think Every one's audience is different and special in their own way and some things will line up Personality-wise with something I like it and when I have fun. There's a lot of fun I love most of the time. It's kind of that the base of streaming. You know, but nobody has fun, right? And that's improving the time and time again So I try to find things that I am actually interested in it So trouble me just did it overall I think it reflects a lot on the audience if I like something it there's a good chance They might like it a lot, right?  They are usually on board with it It's why that there won't be the same thing for everybody else.  So it's there's like a lineup there Right. Um, I mean the Obviously we need all the statistics on it I guess at that point to know for sure But I would just assume that if it goes one way as in the praise of the video or the engagement with the video would cause people to Think better of the creator that the reverse would happen as well.   Yeah, why would you take it down? Don't you think you're in the right for having on transformed it? Yeah, but I care But you what sorry? Well, I care You care Yeah, I care right. I care about the video. I care about watching it I care about their content. I care about them to some extent Yeah, you can say that as much as benefits me, but I generally care about about that video and about that that person And they want me to take me down. I take it down.  I don't need a video I want it. Well, they need two different things. So you can't for instance if Destiny was asked by Ben Shapiro to take down coverage of his videos and the only argument was I just want it down That's my preference. Would you do it destiny? Fucking daily wear already DMC had the last thing Okay, yeah, but not under the under the guise of just To remove a video Almost every time I'm gonna lean into yes on that The only exception would be if I feel like it's a very valid very necessary critique or something Yeah, I was just trying to censor things off the internet then I probably wouldn't So yeah, so we're gonna depend yeah So Ben Shapiro is a hard one because we're getting into the political Let's say Ben Shapiro puts it a video saying that like we need to take away all trans rights in the United States And then I react to that video and then he's like, can you take that down? Like I don't appreciate using that much my video. I probably tell him to like kick rocks or something, right?   But yeah, sorry, like I'll ask you if I'm gonna use another video in the future years Yeah, yeah, but again, yeah out of all people I swear it like if you want actual because you all like always data and whatever out of all people the amount of data that I have and the combos of people and creators is Exorbitant so like you're not and I'm not I'm not gonna get it like like fucked over here on that like I will back it up if you want me to So, um, it's good that we've considered like if it was necessary content We would keep it up But what if you've put effort in you consider yourself like let's say you've given Commentary that double the video in size you checked out like actual statistics to support or decry Whatever they say in the video. Yeah, she looked put some good work into it, but they said I still want it down I put it down My job is it files play Streaming is a D gen Bottom of the barrel human behavior, right when I like a video and I do it for fun And I enjoy it, right?  You know like um, that's my take it referring to your work as DJ and bomb of the barrel Like I don't I don't know I was about to like defend you on your behalf and say it was not worthless, no, I'll know it is it is an absolute no I Streams and live content are literally second monitor Exclusive things and they will always remain that for the most part it it absolutely is anybody who thinks that it's not is Stupid because they're comparing it to produced content at 100% production If it's an uphill battle argument to make it stupid to make it. Don't need to try it But if you feel that way then do you understand why people are as angry as they are um no because The people that are angry Nobody watches their shit then okay Um, I guess what I'm trying to say is that you already consider the format to be bottom of the barrel They're saying something like lamino is top of the cream of the crop and then you put out your video That's main value comes from lamino's video. And so therefore Okay, I kind of put forth It's like low effort versus high effort and people get a little bit you guys both failed You guys are both failing and now you guys are both failing it you missed an important component Okay, the action of streaming is bound to barrel dog shit, right? the product as a full-fledged product is Actually ahead of the curve the the chat experience the sense of community the sense of camaraderie and The social aspects of that are are severely misunderstood and they're very very very valuable, right? And the whole combo of the stream the China everything the product itself is very very very good But the behavior of the human-minded is degenerate. Yes Okay So in the world that let's say lamino puts the video out and then a hundred thousand streamers all do their reactions And they all upload I assume we all agree that the audiences are not going to spread equally to all of them instead It will be people like you and Asma gold etc. You know the established Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know where you're going with this. I don't know.  I'm just gonna keep it a stacker So if you can try to approach it that way, I think you're gonna get crushed by go ahead I'm not it. Honestly. I'm trying to figure out a lot of this with understanding your mindset on it as well So make sense. Yeah Considering all of what's been said like could we not see a future where it will only benefit the people who are established already If we all agreed that you were right on this and we all felt that we should streamers Yeah, but not in terms of YouTube right because the video rule performing will continue to perform it As long as makes good videos. Well, as we I'm assuming you guys know about like what jacksfilms has been doing with XX sniper wolf I forget the full name or how the name is said but that she'll be reacting and getting millions and millions of views from Tiktoks that are all grabbed from people who have as low as like a hundred views and they never found Would you would you say that that is unacceptable? No Not um, I couldn't care little couldn't get these guys aren't taking off having taken off We'll not take off and have no ways of doing so Unless they will and that whatever she's doing isn't affecting that in any way that's negative if anything It's a positive flat out. He's saying that the market would have defined whether or not they were worthwhile Yeah Okay That's it. What do you think about that? Oh, you can laugh if you want. I'm right.  Yeah, I mean he's probably right, but I mean I wouldn't say it that way You think he's right That the market doesn't think I'm right. He knows I'm right. There's a method difference Here's this is my if I was to argue this which I won't because it's such an optics L and I'll let XQC go eat all those optic cells What I would say is that like people are just mad at react content because streamers are seen traditionally as lazy compared to People that put a lot of like preparative work into their content and The reality is is that like all react content does is it makes some streamers richer and it makes a lot of audience It's happy because they can view something really just like a ton of upsides with probably no downside The only downside is a perceived or illusory loss that the original content creator feels That's not what I asked you the question Well, what do you mean or I'm sorry? Would you I'm asking about the fact that those tiktok creators are all getting like zero views Meanwhile sniper wolf gets all of them by reacting to all their content that that's happening because them on their Own would never get any engagements. They're not good enough. Do you think that's fair? Yeah, I don't think they would I don't think that somebody watching sniper wolf's channel if she wasn't uploading those I don't know if they would be on tiktok discovering those low view tiktok That's not that's not the point either Well, obviously my conclusion would be that they may be found some day, but for now they're not and instead They're just gonna get eaten by her. She can take advantage fully But that's another situation where it's just her gaining and then her audience gaining But if we ax out her gains on the audience's gains, that's it. We've just deleted So what is the correction then we can have her promote them, right? Okay, okay, wait. Well, you know, I have it taken the Here's the actual thing if you want to be a creator and when she did pop up you create Right and a lot of ways that maybe the first little make it won't have that effect Right, but the boost that they're gonna get when they make another video will pop off If you want to make one video when it could went hard and you said what in another world It would have been hard and it wouldn't been viral whatever. Yeah I mean, yeah, you can make me right Is that what you are a seven-tick a seven-second tiktok forever, and that's you are one creation forever Well, no, no Potential what it could have I think that's fair to send us the implication is of course that they create a whole library of strong content That she just gets to pick and choose to have a one she wants to react to like but we're not I assume Concealing that she's the one that makes the videos valuable by reacting to them Because you said like they're never gonna pop off and it's like so why does she pop off? I Assume you guys have seen her reactions. They're terrible like she just goes. Oh my god It doesn't know no no no, I'll stop there there.  I am now now. I'm sad. You made me sad now You gonna make the social argument you felt well. No, you felt for the rookie bait It's super rookie because now you don't view it as good or you don't see its value Therefore everybody sees that nobody has no value. No, I I can answer why people are there successful I already answered why people are there. It's because of the tiktok. They're interested in the actual content No, just stop Go ahead. They thought wasn't it doesn't exist and she was successful. What yeah, but I don't know what she was stealing before I only know what she's stealing. Oh, she always don't know making assumptions. She always stolen it. I don't know Okay, but then you make any assumption about the fault then you are de facto make assumptions at that point I haven't I haven't said that. She's totally anything. What? Yes, you do. Yes, you are the nature of your argument isn't de facto You're the opposite what no, yes. Yes. Yes, you are yes, you are no I said I don't know where how she got to where she was before she started stealing tick tock But has value but you do has value. Sure. I don't know what I have no context Okay, your opinion on a good if it's that it were not is irrelevant because the stats and if I They should have other people is enough on its own. I Have no idea what point you're trying to make. Oh my god I'm not doing what you I don't know. I know what you are trying to make by saying whoa She didn't know the dog. She wouldn't get any views. Oh my god.  I said, I don't know I think you're misrepresenting the way the argument went like um for the sake of looking better. I Venually think that the opinion on that is is relevant is genuinely irrelevant. Okay, so let me let me break it.  I'm not sure what I'm responding to that your perception Yeah, I'm a wise doing good. It's pretty relevant. Um, if you try to discredit like oh well, um on their own They wouldn't even do good. I mean what makes her well my perception on why they're doing good is momentum That they've already got I don't know what I'm not even I wouldn't be able to tell you how destiny started his momentum I wasn't there neither. Can I say that for you? Well, I know it's something it might have been to do with the overwatch I don't know in any case the the the way you can maintain momentum in an easy way is of course Continuing to do whatever it is that view is cancer for but to also use these videos They're like placing tracks down for your train. They're easy and I think that's a unethical. Oh Oh I get it. So this is more of an argument because you're molding because of career choice and you can be making more money with less effort So you're you're mauled that people are making money and you are not Based on the fact that I'm much ever get to put in on you in your in your work field I don't mind your in your field of work I don't mind if you or destiny or anyone else makes a huge career from reacting to videos if you're transforming them That's totally fine with me. If you steal them, that's where we have a problem Actually, I'm really shocked actually she kind of moved me on this topic because what he said about snipers Actually super true. Oh, no, I really couldn't believe it. I would you make that comment on like, oh, shit He's right at the end of the day Wait, wait, can you say which comment in particular just everybody comes the most recent one where he said basically sniper We all criticize her way of doing stuff and everyone's making her the poster child at the moment But the fact is the audience sees a tremendous amount of value of watching it with her because they come for her reactions as well And for them, it's important to watch it They wouldn't want to watch a lot of these stuff without her being there So even though it may not seem transformative to a lot of you guys and a lot of the pokes criticizing her The truth is for the audience it is transformative in that they would not be consuming the content any way shape or form if it wasn't for her I don't buy that for a fucking second. They would happen to other people react to it They would happen to watch on their own if they caught it That was true. I would be a nobody. I would have never made it.  That's it bad flat out.  If if if that were true, then why would people stay even if you're not commenting at all? For the community made for the community. Yeah, that's a different argument. I'm talking you said sniper wolf I'm saying yeah, it could be for the comments It could be it could be for the lore The sense that everybody knows oh my god, but everybody has a reason why they watch, right? People downplayed the lore of stuff people go in the comments and then they enjoy and reckon with people other people that saw as many videos as As her they make comparisons to her old videos and so they did in the past or joy that she made a long time ago, right? And they enjoy her in her content. It's on their front page. There's a mobile reason why people watch something There's so many of them and lot of them are social aspects and they're part of the product and Diminishing the whole product because you're gonna be with one part or another are stupid My product is dog shit times because of me and I think it's dog because of what's on screen or what's happening in chat That right when things work things work in tandem and in certain percentages or ratios to make a full-fledged good party, but that is desirable Okay, do you think that if sniper wolf stopped uploading completely that the views disappear or they go somewhere else? Yeah, sit at one more time please because I had done that don't know if sniper wolf stopped uploading completely Do you think the view is from here would disappear or go somewhere else? They would go they would split up on YouTube Some of it would go into the void, but if you wanted to realize something and it's very harsh as a reality When you're on the Internet, nobody cares about you Z row. You know what he has loyalty They're only loyal to the content Quality that you put out and you are 100% Replaceable and you will be replaced the views that you should stop uploading we'll go to other videos entirely Oh, we'll go to other things and don't we start the don't make the argument Well, we go to the tick tock with eight views the guy had and that was gonna get none next time that argument is fucking Stupid, but I agree they would go in other places They would likely fill other communities who do and react to different things as well And that would be fine with me if they transform in the content if they're not then I'm less fine with it Like I said, it's just a matter of how you're building your career How do you know that? Yeah, how do I know what position you just said a statement But like how do you know that they would just go to a different community and start watching other content? You actually don't know that How do I know that they would continue to watch content? I wonder as opposed to most of it will spread out money Not to the tick tock that she was watching it on the same platform and and it it spreads out Here's a good example. Look at twitches stats when I left twitch and went to kick up Well, I'm leaving the stats are relatively the same Relatively I think I real quick I think that it's gonna depend on the type of streamer and the type of community they have So like for not like for my content if I was wiped off the face of the earth if I had to guess I'd say probably like 50 to 40 percent of my fans would go and watch other stuff I think a lot of them would just stop watching content But if you were watching somebody, let's say you were part of like OTK maybe like like S-Fan Let's say S-Fan gets wiped off because he's he does collapse with so many other people Maybe like 80% to 90% of his audience would go to other OTK members, right? I think it depends on the type of stream you're watching the type of community I haven't how bought in you are to their content But I I don't think it's zero sum where when you destroy a streamer all 100% of the audience disperses to other content I think some of it will be lost I think viewer hours will go down overall and some people just stop engaging with content Yeah, you'd be surprised how many people just watch one creator regularly than like yes Like the video So didn't you make a point about how you're almost interchangeable with so many other people X yeah, yeah Yeah, I'm 100% very much visible here Yeah, so I believe the majority of the viewers then would definitely disperse to other creators I don't see why we wouldn't assume that's true Wait the majority yeah, we'll watch something else in terms of this and people are maybe maybe older Maybe they only tune into YouTube as the as their radio, right? They're like radio endures right and watch this radio and and they don't really care about radio itself But they get because this is on it right and they'll watch that and I think well as as you're as you're growing as you're growing up And as you get older right and the percentage of people that are gonna watch other stuff will diminish greatly Yeah by by Multi-due I would assume I think it's a good assumption to make it. I don't think it's an assumption Yeah, so the industry as I understand it then will be the ones with the highest momentum will be able to get away with the best of Taking other people's content and not Yep, absolutely, that's that is precisely where my issue is I think they should You don't have to care that's totally fine, but do you agree that you've you've created non transformative reactions 100% yeah, okay, that's fine. We're we've agreed So you just rendered them So that's my moral issue you don't agree with me because we have different morals. That's totally Okay, that's enough. Yeah, um Yeah, I think you'll never I think as as the future goes forward You're gonna you're gonna have that more and more right but overall you're gonna get a higher value Entirely is my more ways to enjoy something than just one so overall it's like we're getting new new sets of cars We're getting more cycles now We're getting hoverboards right as you're trying to say well well well well well um I Real people I really want them to only enjoy the corolla. They cannot enjoy anything about that It has to be the corolla right it just has to be as me right and I think that argument is Diminative in progression for um for products. Yeah, I don't see any Technological updates are gonna happen within my lifetime that will make me think the stealing content is fine like not transforming it Wait, wait, why is the fact that he is replaceable not make it transform? I don't understand the leap So no all the leap I was making from him saying he's transformative is that viewers would move to other places with the same sort of Vibes or community I'm smart and there was an argument sir.   Okay. Mm-hmm the fact that it's transformative. What does that matter? That's not got anything to do with my transformative argument I'm talking about where the audiences go if he says he's replaceable I believe the audiences will move to other places destiny's correct in that a lot of people who view him Passionately like there's no other destiny online same for a lot of careers if lamino stop making videos It's not like all of lemon those videos move to the next lamino. There isn't no there is no Lex next fucking out There is no next lemon that is correct And then then things that we're gonna have a second life life and bill or watch other stuff and sometimes in more in similarity to the most content and I think that's that's okay I'll be so that's what that was all establishing that so I figured that was an older argument The new one is just about whether or not they transform X you see doesn't mind if he is transforming it or not I do that's the difference. No, I mean Just a degree and a lot of times if they don't like that Oh my god, I can't believe this by my by trying to defend sniper I'm defending XQC at the same time But I still I don't care whether XQC says it's transformative or not The fact is that any time he watches anything on his stream his community his livestream chat whether he talks or not It doesn't even fucking matter his little reactions of his face make it transformative and I don't yeah True So transformative means something when we say transformative We're talking about that four-factor test for fair use that the United States has as part of the copyright. I write law, right? That's what transformative means now transformative and Something is so different that people will watch it for a particular reason those are technically two different things How do you say that? How do you say that? How do you say that you would establish it by looking at the four-factor test for fair use? That's how you determine if something is transformative in the not if they don't agree with that full factor No, wait, wait, hold on. I'm just saying you got to be clear when we talk about their use or we talk about transformative What we're really using our legal definitions there if you want to use like a casual definition Well, I would say don't because using the same word as the legal one, which makes it really confusing I don't think people care the legality I understand Transformative we're trying to say that like the work itself is changing to a degree that has value But I'm just saying that you're using the same word it would be like saying that like yesterday John did something illegal And you're like, what do you do? He lied to me. It's like well, he didn't do it. Okay, but it's illegal It's wrong. He did something illegal this it's not illegal, right? So I'm just saying if you're gonna use the legal term of transformative It's really confusing if we're using that a casual way But something that I said a few days ago is correct what you guys are saying now is that for most people Your you guys are actually close, but there's even one step further They actually don't even care about XQC's reactions. A lot of the quote-unquote I'm using this in the casual non-legal sense like you guys using transformative part really just comes from watching something with a community Yeah, yeah, which is which is additive and the chance of it's formative enough The fact that there's a discord of people can talk about these are added things that you don't really compute And it's very hard to quantify but are very much relevant to the final full-fledged product Which is a massive part of everything and you know what sometimes I'm if I can say it My chair is more entertaining than some of their fucking content that ass the fact that the chat is watching there saying it No, it's just saying it. Yo, dude. Mr. Chair is watching the video. That's value to people.  I could be wrong. Yeah. Yeah Like saying so something that some apartment complexes used to do is sometimes people would take a projector or actually we can do this Sometimes bars will show sports games, right? And there's a transformative aspect to going to a bar and watching a sports game with a whole bunch of other people That's like a real that's more transformative probably than being in a stream chat, right?  You're all screaming you're having fun or whatever However, my understanding is that those establishments still legally need to purchase a special license to show those things You can't just buy one HBO ticket to a fight and then show that in a bar You've got to buy a special license for that because you're showing it to a wide variety of people as part of an establishment Right. That's I'm just I'm not disagreeing with you guys are saying I'm just saying that's like the legal part is a little there's a distinction between the part of Transforming here versus just like why somebody will watch something. I think I agree I think we all agree act even you and you're yeah, you were taken to court. You would probably lose you agree.  Yeah, but the thing is with Ethan I don't think obviously the legal aspect we've added in terms of how the news story unfolded I think people were on his side because it really felt like what he was doing was transformative and that it changed it They didn't care about the legal aspect of it when they were thinking about that They said no what you did really change the work in the way that I view it Yeah And so I think what I guess what I'm getting at is that when I'm looking at XQC or even sniper SS Wolf I feel like both of them do enough where for the audience the experience wouldn't be the same Okay, so I have a question if I uploaded all of your videos and my community reacted to it and I wasn't there Would you be okay with that?  It's a paid actor He gets paid is gonna come in and lose my argument on my behalf Even though I'm okay with it and now it's at the cover for him You're in the clear X you're in the clear for now. It's Abba.  I mean it's never happened, but X actually like changed my mind I see I see I have a concept in my chat I'm called mr.  Chair more than like they like me chat hates me They love mr. Chair. Okay, and for them that has value and I think that that is can be understated. All right Um, so I would just to clarify you be okay with me doing it Yeah, oh, yeah, that's me too. Yeah. Yes. I think I probably still feel some type way on the inside, but I think it's why Why some some some some I think everybody has some insecurities However, we're gonna project those is all up to you But I think that if you shouldn't get various of arguments because they're come from insecurities These guys made it just to clarify because like that scenario is kind of a step just further than what we were talking about when we first Started next you said you'd offer to buy the channels out, right? If they did that. Oh If they if they if they do what I do But better and they give it on another rhythm. I will add them to the ship Okay, I will revise the workload and we're gonna get a clip guy Yeah, yeah now my editor is good enough that he does all of it Yeah, he learned how to do the rat clip the joint clip the post clip the fast clipping He knows all the strats But if he's he gets bad enough at it and it's not good anymore We get we get rolled up all higher the next guy that does better. No, yeah fair enough But obviously what I was bringing up is I was expecting to leave me alone not try to buy me out Let me make my money Yeah, I mean I wasn't gonna buy you out. I was gonna leave it alone But I would I would say this I think that most people when we're talking about the morality of the issue Their idea of what is transformative is gonna be fairly subjective But for the audiences watching the content they would feel like it's extremely transformative for them And so I would ask you how do you make the moral argument where you can feel like this is something that should be a little bit more expanded? Like more people should follow it. I'm curious like how do you even define that line really on a moral basis? You're asking me like how I would consider it with the line for non transformative to transformative. Yes. Well, what is the line? So I wouldn't ask I probably model it after the the full-point thing But like one of those I think includes like the amount of time which I'm not in favor of so for example If it said like you need to have a maximum of 10% of the original content in yours I'd be like no, I don't I don't think that should necessarily be true if you respond fully to 100% of it in detail It shouldn't be that like well now they they own it because you've done that obviously I'm personally invested in that since I do like full breakdowns of every scene in a movie sort of thing The main thing I think is to change like the full experience of watching the original like what's you can't If I was to review a movie that you can't watch my video and have the experience of watching the movie Like it's a completely different thing and it's on different markets for different purposes That's like one of the primary issues too much of my work is in there for it to be considered Not my work is kind of what I would say, you know You know, it's crazy he said that the future in your lifetime wouldn't change as much as you think it would whatever the fuck Or to make you made that argument and actually it's crazy that corporate are the most scared about this and they really don't want that All that bullshit right yet. They're exploring watch party options, which is a massively in my in my argument You're watching movies together as like watch parties That's a that is a massive advancement that even corporate see value in it So whatever you see value in it I mean you are wrong on all points like all of them Great is on my side. I agree with you that there are avenues in which this is going to develop, but they will be licensed Oh, okay, so now we're back into the legal lingo of bullshit. Gotcha. Well, you'd be clear morally if you had licenses for all of these things I wouldn't mind The whole point of the whole point of the license is just to ensure that the original copyright holders are respected That's the whole point of a license a license a license accomplishes two things One when you create something But what copyright means is that you have the exclusive right to create copies of that electronic work or not electronic But that intellectual property, right? That's what copyright means You're the sole person that can create copies of it a license allows other people to create copies based on an agreement between the rights Holder and whoever is selling the license. So that's one thing the second part is a license allows the people who owned the copyright And then license other people to make money off of it Those are the two things that a license helps with so when you talk about watch parties The original rights holder exclusive right is respected because he's licensed the content of somebody else And oftentimes there's a form of compensation for it.  It's a it's a money sink.  I know that it seems that way, but if you ever feel the way if you it's not no no It's not that it's just needed It's that generally when you dig into almost every single law Usually they exist for really good reasons. Yes, I agree.  What do you mean?


Oh Made a lava lamp out of the stillborns that she was collecting looks actually like awesome. Are we live Matt? Yeah Whoa man calm down. What's with your energy right now?    We're gonna get something about 40 or 50 Yeah, so that's coming and plus hopefully we'll do some sort of live podcast eventually as well What made you mention this?  Well, I'm not is that's like a really a kid who's like six does that I did that at six Yeah, but I Dude, I reckon if we get people on meth matt can do it for like seven days straight. Yeah, I get it You want me to take math?  It's hot in here, isn't it? It got out of hand.   We don't even know if we're allowed to post it yet We're gonna you guys might not even be able to see it. It might just be on the website because it's it was quite dangerous But anyway, sorry about that. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's okay. Like I guess Whatever, of course, it's okay, baby. It's not. Yeah, it definitely would have been preferred if we had It's dangerous the kids.   No one like must be the footprints. I reckon. Yeah, that must leave behind a A trail of footprints fingernails Hand follicles. Yeah, okay.  Yeah, they got cameras all through the woods.   We are playing tocker Oh, no, we'll get into that later.  Yeah, I had three days. I worked through it a real bad cough I was coughing up phlegm still. Yeah.  Yeah Actually, there's so many sick people at the moment. I'm kind of questioning if it even was you Yeah, exactly.   What did that? What does that do? That puts the sound off. Okay. Anyway, can we get to hear that? What? Yeah, I think that'll go through. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll go through. Anyway, uh, sponsors everyone This podcast right this this very podcast here is sponsored by the internationally renowned company manscaped manscaped.com.     The shavers are amazing.  Can you hear that?     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Oh for that Yeah, yuck. Is that spit?  That's your Oh, that looks bad I don't know what's just happened That wasn't my fault. It's on camera. You can look at review the footage matt.  Anyway, those are our sponsors moving right along Oh, we just had hard technical. That was like two hours for an hour. I reckon we've been around We were there were moments of us screaming at each other and crying Michael was crying.  I don't know what you're talking about.  On this day In 1999 Jason statham pissed in a plastic bag and slung it at a brick wall It exploded and pissed showered down on the sleeping children below The children sat up in shock to see Jason pointing and laughing. He had ruined nap time Jason was then fired from the daycare center. He worked at Who is he? It's either and that's what is afl. That's what made him go into movies. He's that bald dude He's a transporter. He's always been like an english gangster. He's always he's also in fast and furious.  Come on. Hey, we're on the topic. Did you see the new trailer for mission impossible? I saw that there's a top gun too. Yeah I'm sure you'll be watching those won't you matthew. Yeah more apparently top gun too I saw is like the highest rating on rotten tomatoes out of all it's like 98 percent or something Apparently, it's really good.  Isn't it tom cruising a plane? You would not want to you wouldn't watch that It's action. You already know what's gonna happen. I'm not sure. She starts I'm not sure if he actually flew the jets, but he's definitely in them like they filmed them in proper Jets he cruised in him. Yeah. Yeah, tom cruise control. He's actually watch he actually watches I've seen him comment on our ship before. Hey, tom. He gone tommy. How are you mate? We're getting clear with science. Yeah 110 percent mate.  All right Now it is time For the most emotional disgusting Fucked segment out of all segments of all podcasts ever made Right now we have matt's black book which is filled littered with stories of how he has Hav'd women after women throughout his entire life.  In great detail And just a little recap if you knew this week The pro last week as we remember matt brown had to show the rest of the inmates in jail that he was an alpha And he attacked another inmate and now he's getting um, he was overwhelmed by the security guards So now we open to page number 52 it's like a story Matt already knows what happens obviously because this is his diary. He's alone. All right. This is what matt brown was before he found god Number 52 I was forcefully thrown into solitary confinement. My body slapped onto the cold hard ground You can stay here until your trial starts in six days.  Oh, yeah, and the vomiting was terrifying.  I had done what I wanted to do.  I had to have I'd even tried having a few stray insects.   This was it.        I grabbed one of my tits and tugged it up towards my mouth And started tonguing at my nipples And yeah, that felt good.  It felt so good. The thick drool had started flowing from my meaty lips I pinched and tugged at my nipples and that's when things escalated.      That would hurt. Look how glazed I am now.  Oh my god. That was a long journey. It takes a piece of my life every time It is dark I don't feel right for the next three days Maybe that's why you got such hard dreams I've dreams about it Yeah, it's it's definitely like it's not on by a vibration.  Why would you do that? Well, maybe why do you know help?  It's time for michael's bible and michael's bible is a book dedicated to his beliefs And values and you will do well to sit down and listen to it. He's changed the lives of many people michael is Beezus michael Okay, michael flip your headphones Flip him. Yeah flip him upside down Yeah turn him around Every time Shit, is that better? Yeah, you've almost a thrush man. I'll open my book up. How does that even happen?  What are you doing? Move the core behind you Matt brown just yelled at you. Yeah, that would hurt dude. Here we go Cans can change shape and they are metal Can can bend metal and metal is meant to be strong I think it's called aluminium or something like that It is Sorry If you've seen the movie the sandalot kids you are automatically cool to me and I respect you more than if you haven't Get used to the idea of having some form of alien disclosure in your lifetime Here's to hoping that it's used to your benefit Sorry Majority don't see the storm coming. Say sorry.  Sorry man. You that there is brain damage There is brain damage amongst us three because that was beautiful to me Dude, I love the sandalot kids It is it's a known fact if you have seen the sandalot kids, you're a bit better than if you haven't Is that or is that like the titanic? Is that actually it has the same no way 100% away sandalot kids is a true story like titanic It is they and they've made a second one No way only the first one's a true story there. Sorry about that.  All right So there you go. I hope you have taken something away from michael's bible Um, because you know it is it might sound like rambling nonsense from an autistic guy who's had far too many Bongs before he wrote it, but it's actually There's some paths to moral value there It's sort of like Mozart. Yeah, if you think about Mozart, it's exactly the same thing and shakes me a bit All right time for our next segment and this segment He's right behind you He's right behind you He's right behind you turn around the other way And this is a segment where michael and i have taken it upon ourselves to help our dear friend Matthew Brown out to help him find a partner We single-handedly go out and find someone and we call them and we set up a phone date with them live Matt has never met this person and we will pick top three people that he Connected with the most and fly them in at the end of the season and matt will end the season with a partner It has been written in the stars You'll marry one and no three of them will live with you for two months No And i don't know if i want to do this it's a show and this one's in your sort of demographic She's young. She's i'm pretty sure she doesn't sound like she's a mom She's like no, i don't believe anything you're saying because i already know you've lied to me somewhere and i'm in trouble and i'm last two bachelor brown dates Look, we have deceived you. Okay. I will. Yeah. Yeah last year we were deceptive and have you deceived me on this one No, my brown this one is legit. Yeah This one is legit. All right. Now i want you to her name is rachel Okay, what what do you what are you picturing in your mind right now? I don't know Let's see how close you are in high school. Let's see how close you are With your judgment over her For when you talk to her. I don't know if I want to come on. What do you think she looks like? Let's hear it I don't care. What's your what do you hope? What do you hope she looks like come on? You got to open up to us if you want to move forwards. I don't know a bit of self-development here Just what what what do you say the girls know what you're after? What are you picturing in a wife here? What are your values No, you got like probably what five values What do you what do you value in it in all in all in all I don't know right now? I can only think that they're gonna need a strong sense of humor today at me. Okay, and And I'm guessing if they're calling into this They must have that so exactly you're saying that I'm thinking the one I'm thinking all the girls must have good sense of humor if they're willing to come on this All right. Well, that's what about physically what do you have a java hair color type? Do you have like I don't I don't really I've never really thought Oh my god, oh my god I spoke to her today. I guess I won't ask that question. Michael's already had a date with her Yeah, I had to sort of interview them to see if this Michael's having anyway, let's chat about my type after Let's call her before she falls. Okay. Now.   All right.  Yeah, try and impress her a little bit I can only do half. Here we go Here we go. Here we go Hello. Hello, Rach. Is it Rachel? Yeah Wow, you know Rachel you are on the Marty and Michael Fully actual podcast one of the the best podcasts in the world. All right, it is before we before we go ahead This is one of the best podcasts in the entire world. It's the best. The best the best Matt loves you Rachel.   Yeah. Yeah, so Rachel I'm going to throw it over to you and you guys just get to know each other pretend no one's here This is just so you guys can see if you have a connection basically Yeah, okay. All right. So all right.  Here we go Quiet Matt Brown Hey, Rachel Hi, how are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm okay. What's going on? I don't know just doing a podcast with these two and they're freaking me out. Tell her how you feel Try and feel it up. Tell her how you feel. I can't feel it. Come on Matt It's happening again. Ah touch her boobs. Rachel, where are you from? You could be neighbors find out where she lives exactly She's not going to tell me where she lives No, what's suburb do you live in? Yeah, that's good Matt In green That's 20 minutes. That's like 15 minutes from Matt.  Uh, well my uh, one of my good friends Taylor's a very big fan of the podcast and she was like Would you would you mind and I was like, oh go for it. Why not? Oh god. Hey, michael, this is my date. Um Um, so have you ever watched this podcast before? Matt brown Yes, yeah So, you know what you're in for I know exactly what I'm in for. Yeah, would you say that you could you probably love matt sort of You could you see a future There's a potential there. Yeah. Have you heard his black book entries? No, I don't say anything about it All right, we shouldn't bring that up. I'm gonna ruin it. Sorry. Um She can't love me. She hasn't even met me before.   Stop So, um So, what do you like? What do you do for work? What do you like to do? Oh Let us speak Well, right now I'm actually uni. I'm studying psychology Oh Psychology's brand after this podcast. I don't need one you need one before what do you like to do in your spare time for fun? I usually usually just kind of stay at home or I'll play blart basketball You love that matt love tell her about table tennis say she has to love that So does that mean you're quite tall because you play basketball? Yeah, how tall are you? I'm six foot two But you can grow you grow too if you extend yourself He's a very malleable body type. I've seen it. Oh, that's good. Yeah, because I'm five eleven. So That's so I can't kiss the microphone. I don't even know what she looks like. I'm not kissing the microphone Rachel, do you mind if matt leans in and gently kisses the microphone? Go for it. Why not? All right, go on matt. Do you make it sound back Rachel?  You gotta shout a little kissy. That's so cute. This is the furthest he's been so far, Rachel This is the you are probably you've taken number one spot You will be probably moving in at the end of the year. Rachel if you do make the top three Would you be open to us? Um All expenses paid trip to uh to stay with matt Hang on for the finale. Not like not like overnight unless you want to but all you know You'll you'll you can come and meet him in person and we'll we'll give you a gift Oh, yeah, why not? I mean We just this is okay. This is good. This is this is big. This is big news now, right? This is it's so important to us that you continue this connection. Rachel. Don't be pressured into this. Honestly You don't have to Yeah, Rachel don't feel any pressure In their podcast you probably need some slack services anyway, exactly And you'll be feeling plenty of pressure when you're around matt brown at night. Yeah, even if this doesn't work out I feel like yeah, I need a psychologist Now, Rachel do you have instagram? I do Okay, would you please do us? All of the audience in this entire audience of this podcast do us all a favor and message Matt brown one one one one four ones On instagram and just like you don't have to look we don't we don't expect you guys to get married or to go on a date Right, but we would really love to exhaust you guys as an option You might be so much you could be related and you therefore You guys could get married one day is basically what i'm trying to say and it'd be great to rule you out because matt Does not know what he's doing. He's all alone 40 years old. You made me sound like I have no idea how to date a woman like nothing going on So rachel, can you please do us a favor and do that for us? For sure. Why not? Thank you so much. All right matt and will you keep up your end of the bargain and chat to rachel And open up a little bit.  All right beautiful. Thank you so much for your time rachel.  Thank you. Thank you rachel. Bye. Bye. See you later rachel Number one she's taken number one position. She lives in brisman.   We just found I reckon she's number one hundred percent, right? It doesn't get any easier every time Very good.  It was a metaverse It killed with the times, baby. It's 2022. Yeah, you're talking to someone on the phone.     It's a kiss as well This is exactly the same. No these days I reckon that's the one she's moving in. She's top 300% so far number one. Hey, let's try this for a second. All right Rachel brown. Yeah, exactly. It's nice. It's sort of like red brown. Look. He's already thinking about Thank you.   So what are we doing? All right next segment Lying to Lockie. This is a segment where we call our friend Lockie And we just tell him a lie and see if we can make him believe us. Okay I've sent him a text Earlier today and I said, did you get that email from facebook?  So um, let's see if we can convince him with that lie and earlier today matt brown Got a little glide to me. We lied to matt brown. Rack is not coming to toca and we're not doing toca Toca is not on tomorrow night. Did you text your work and get out of it?  That is so good Matt, listen to this matt brown had dinner plans. No, not just dinner plans. Do you want to hear what I had?   They want to have a dinner With all of them. So everyone can meet each other. They get to know each other big networking event It'd be like a big work event and they're like the and my boss was like, hey, I really I know it's last minute We really need you to be there. This was today. It's tomorrow night and I said yes Oh, wow, and they're like and I'm like, oh well Yeah, of course, I'll be there. It's not a problem.  James is gonna be there rack is gonna come Oh, I think locky's gonna said he would and then now I so what did I do? I am mixing to get on the front foot because I'm I try to be organized I call my boss. I said, oh, I'm really sorry I lied and I said, oh, I haven't I had an organized thing with my friends that I completely forgot about when I said yes Right And now we now gotta call her back Oh, I won't call her back tomorrow. I'll roll up and I'll have to be like, hey, remember that thing I told you I had That's really important. Yeah, it got cancelled So we lied to matt and he cancelled these important work plans and it turns out as a lie So he didn't need to cancel anyway. That's what I really wanted to play. That's what this segment is all about All right, let me call locky here. Here we go. Nothing is nothing is sacred anymore There's no like who cares. You don't have to go talk to work people This is gonna blow this is gonna backfire one day.    Just believe us every time You're gonna be like you're gonna now we got you out.  You can go home. Have an early month. Go play red dead redemption I'd love to do like you could just do that and I'd wait Yeah, maybe I just sort of meet you stay if I still work there. That's not a bad idea No, we helped you see we got you out of work. Give us money All right, here we go calling locking here we go Hey, dude, what's going on?  Sorry, dude.   But I don't really get emails from Facebook. Yeah, well, I think this I think that you'll get it eventually They're sending it out to all content creators apparently they're phasing out monetization What?   Really?    I hope they do that with mine.   So that we just really leave it. Yeah That's that's what this segment is about. We just buried a bomb We buried a bomb and lucky will discover it eventually and it's going to go off and it's going to be magnificent. Can't Just like we got you out of work.  Yeah It is fine when it's not you. Yeah, you see now All right. Anyway comment below if you have any lies that you want us to tell locky or can be any of the boys We're not just strictly doing only locky. We just always do him for the first few times The segment is called lying to locky anyone can be locky.  Did that camera just flash? It did not. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it started jiggling up and down It doesn't do no it did it did it did it did it did not. Yes, it did man How did it move the whole tripod back? It did not. Yeah, it did See It's still going but it's moved I hate that joke anyway Time for the next segment, which is uh It's the cow the comment of the week. Do you understand the abbreviation cow? If you want to comment of the week I've completely forgotten to mention if you comment at all At all you are in the runnings to win $1,000. We will announce the winners at the end of the season Okay, so any comment can win we will choose all of the comments from our season four And one of them will win a thousand dollars This right here is the cow boards and this is where we is a separate thing Where we select one comment that we love We cut it out and glue it on that board and mortalizing it forever And if you are on that board, you also are in the running To win another thousand dollars.  It's very good value And this is okay. Marty doesn't know about this one yet, but this is what I came up with Understand it's good. If you really think about it, it's good. If you really watch this podcast a lot. It's gonna make sense It's strong Go on then Let's have it the comment went to shawn c. Oh my god, shawn c shawn c Shawn capital C All right, and the comment is Matt dad greg Matt dad greg because that's the second time And why not oh why not so out there? It's a different person who said it It's all right Look, it's what last week we discovered that matt's name is just his dad's name with a mat at the front of it So chris carlin's already on the board for a matt dad greg and now there's another matt dad greg Oh, really there's two matt dad gregs. Yeah, it's a told you it's two stone. Oh, wow. Yeah I don't remember any of the comments on the board.   Get on that you you got to be in it to win it you may as well It'll only take you a second right and you could win money. I've started buying lotto tickets Yeah, yes anyone 40 dollars the other day I spent 60 So he's down 20 But you had a great time anyway onto the questions This is a segment where we answer your questions that you comment on the muddy muck or fully actual podcast channel We answer the ones the questions with the most likes first And then we work our way down okay So if you have a question that you want us to answer comment it in and have a scroll through and like other people's questions That you want us to answer go for it matthew brown All right Um All right top question went to a a flight reviews. Oh, yeah, which I guess is american airlines flight reviews Is that what you do? Sorry Sorry, what did he say? World trade sentiment D monetized Um, all right, so a a flight reviews got top question and he says Question for the podcast Can we get a have victim on the podcast to share our experience?   What about one of the Me and her were just talking about it about the podcast like last night. Yeah, it's so funny You just whispered it over to me. Let's get her on. No, she's busy What about one of the animals?  Oh my god I don't want one of them is ever gonna come on this show And then I'll talk we'll just talk about what they said.  Is it why it's meth. He's fine.  Just say your name's matthew, but it has a foreign spelling 20 grand No 20 bucks no no dude that could be a great video one day if we're so rich that that doesn't matter We have it on camera Shit, okay. I can always change it back. Can't I yeah, of course you can't yeah fine. Matthew I've got it. Okay. Here it is. I've got to at least get it on my driver's license after the change And then I can change it's just changing an a 20. It's fine. It's nothing. Yeah, let's do it. All right. The question is um And she thinks everyone is wondering this also, but did they saw the inmates member back on or is he transitioning now? So if you remember last uh, yeah the last black book. Yeah, I have no idea Matt.  All right. Well, there you go. He might reappear. Let's cliffhanger Yeah, that's that actually is All right next question next question is from Declan Kennedy Um, do you boys prefer smoking mong's joints or having edibles? Depends it varies all the time edibles are great on the weekends when you have nothing to do You just want to lie down and just be high Joints are great just like to relax after a big day And um bongs. Yeah, same thing. You know smoking doesn't get you when you're near as fly la la la la I've seen you have edibles while relaxed and when you're out Doing things and when you have them when you're out your anxiety goes through the room. Oh, yeah You can't be in public with edibles. Well, I can't I just I prefer to just be screaming at the mirror In in darkness. I want to know how many people comment below if you smoke before you do exercise And if it's good Joe Rogan does that it makes you go so much harder And focus more it's so good on the wheel smoke weed and then play tennis All go to the gym and that as well. It just makes yeah, it just makes everything all very good Everyone just do that Next question is from matt dawg at 99.    Oh, man I'm enjoying cringe-offs. You're trying to out cringe each other. Oh, I can see you guys doing that Oh, like I've never been more entertained in my life Does that mean you two are going to bring cringe as a couple like attack on the rest of the group?  There's some funny dances going on and some very very funny songs Well, so you walk through the door and there's a dance going on jingle offs It can be like crazy dance offs.  I can see it. It gets very exciting Yeah, I don't really there's nothing some of the videos that have been the very shocking ones where I'm shitting on him and stuff They've like obviously kind of fucked that would be embarrassing But I don't really there's been nothing really that has embarrassed me with mon But it is fun to embarrass her when we're out in public Fucking hell. Do you do the farts with her?  Oh very good very good. Wow next question is from fism Will you lad's film another orange throw video with the old mate rocket arm would be great to see some carnage Well, we've done a part two to that a the mandarin milk skull. We have yeah, we have So that's we've already done it twice. It is funny. I understand with oranges though. Mandarin's oranges are different though Yeah, yeah, orange oranges are oranges are more painful. Not by much though.  You get one of the head. You're knocked out They're like rocks. Yeah, break a rib with them easy of james are rocks I'm gonna say it potatoes are rocks starts. They're spelled the same.   Do you mean to each other? We wish we could still do that for social media social media man, I wonder like That time we like kicked a ball of soccer ball like thumbtacks. Yeah, I reckon you could do that again That that was that was you are probably good that that went wrong so early because that was just Was able to just so heavy because it's covered in thumbtacks It was just like a cannon ball with with edges on it just rips flesh off I think the mistake was you took it front on.  All right I'll do it. We'll redo that. Yeah, we'll do it. I'll jump in next time No, you won't if you're afraid to do it. I'll come and do it. You would do that.  You promise to rachel Yeah, you got to check with her first.  Yeah, maybe I would turn into a maniac and think that you attacked me Look, you do you do meth be god.  Yeah Yeah, we're excited about your name I really want everyone to start calling math math math you It's so good. Oh, he's pale enough. He looks like a math. Yeah, he's nearly transparent. Oh, I wish you started getting swords Next question is from uh sastra 99 When will mapper and get a decent chair boys? Well, he gets another one episode 20 Which is five episodes away now matt so you hang in there and you gotta say the tallest tunnel look good on you, baby You're wearing matching shirt today. Hmm. I just saw the next question. I didn't I didn't know I forgot I was there Next question from staff galloway has greg brown ever done Greg brown is matt brown's father my dad has not done. Oh, I should I should ask him I don't think he has these maybe his mates offered him money when they were younger And that's why he named you the way he named you because he was on math Yeah, dude, I reckon if you name your son I guess matthew off if your name greg you've probably done math. I'll say that. Yeah, I'm gonna stand up I'm gonna stand up with that. Oh god. Um, see Next question is from declin kennedy. Did you guys have any childhood nicknames? Uh, marty farty What when you were in high school? No, not high school in high school.     I remember dirtbag. I did that. I made it two weeks without showing I remember henry once when I first started meeting you I went I was like, oh, what's it like living with michael and he goes, yeah, it's all right He just has a little dark corner in my room I Didn't like my high school nickname ever just call me brownie brownie. Oh wow. Hey brownie brown's better than brownie But the only only my higher people who knew me in high school I feel can call me that everyone else just calls me my full name brown. Yeah, your nickname is matt brown Your full name Like my friend Jess. I think one day was just like matt brown matt brown and just it just sort of grew there with people and No, it's just hey, it's just when you look at your name. He just that's just hey say it They don't even say Matthew Brown. They say matt brown. Yeah matt brown. Yeah brown town math brown Um, next question is from the solution 41. Here we go What is the best thing you've done that wasn't filmed but wish you had filmed it?  I reckon that would be the most viral thing we've ever done Yeah, michael we're filming once with this wild pig. Well, not a wild pig. It was a pet pig But it didn't like to be touched and michael didn't know that and he walked over to pad it and it turned on him He knocked me to my like knees it could have mauled him. It's huge. Oh, it's like us three together Oh, man. It was scary. It later killed their family dog I'm not that same day like like a month later. It killed their family. I remember it stalking you in the videos Oh It felt threatened by his femininity The only reason why I survived is because the momentum of the push it pushed me to my knees and then I bounced up quickly Did it have a snapper? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was the scariest moment of my life Julian saw anyway that if we had a filmed it would have been one of the best things we've ever filmed A lot of our stories that we've told we wish we're on camera. Oh, yeah, true fucking.  Oh Very good. Just picturing it's very good Um, next question is from austin taylor Marty, did you did you even replace michael's necklace that you broke on the cheetah video? Uh, no, he took it to a jeweler and they fixed it Amber sorted that for me. So thank you All right next question guys um Next question from, um, menwell or mennell or menwell or mennell are some oh god, but Um, what's the funniest illegal thing you've all done that you can safely talk about now? There's a lot that we can't safely talk about but, um The I guess kidnapping that guy That's like, like, you know, you shouldn't get away with kidnapping someone and we shouldn't be allowed. I'm worried talking about it But no, if they ask for you to be like they extradited Yeah, we were sort of and they need that the guy to press charges and like, you know Yeah, and he's not gonna do that. He originally wanted to be Kidnapped. Yeah, I don't think he even knows how to press charges Yeah, so don't don't worry about that. Um, yeah, I don't think there is much other Nothing that springs to mind. I'm sure there is though. It's a good question. We should think about it Oh All right final question okay, that's enough Oh yuck Oh I knew that pain was coming worth it And that's it. That's that's it. That's a wrap. I got one more question. Um, this is from fr sr Question for the podcast. Uh boys, what's your scariest ghost story? Have we told this we probably have Charlie.    I know what you're thinking and I look i'm the biggest skeptic here. You can't Can't Yeah, that was pretty kind and that was like three hours of us asking it a question And it would move every time at the end of the question and then there were times where we're like, all right No one's saying anything for 10 minutes. Let's just see if it moves and then we wait 10 minutes nothing And then straight away we'd ask a question. Boom.    Do you remember that? Yeah, yeah bug and no Oh my god.  I was froze. You know when you're so scared you just freeze for ages Well, that's what happened in the first sleep paralysis. I was so scared Oh, yeah, but you're meant to be frozen.  This is real life.  He was Entire body everything in the house is going.  You hallucinate as well But this was real life The last one actually flickering mat. Oh, yeah, yours is a dream. Maybe this thing ever. I couldn't believe it Anyway, sorry Sorry, but yeah sleep paralysis bad as well. I had that around that time as well And that you taught me how to accept. Oh, you can have fun with sleep paralysis It is not a negative thing at all. Enjoy sleep if you get it It's use it make sure you laugh at the spirits. Yeah, you got a lot.  I laughed. Did that work? Yeah, a little bit, but then when you start to accept it, it's not it because it's terrifying Won't you laugh at it and you just sort of show it to your boss? You can create a lucid dream and it's fucking hot everyone If you've lucid dreamed properly in your life, you'll know it's and it was one of the best experiences You can only happen to me once and I like as soon as I accepted it I was like, I think I got control of this and then I was like Boom, I started flying you get to fly. It's so fun. It's like a Peter Pan It's unbelievable.   I want to do a I want to have a turn you've never lucid dream, but you never dream. How do you not? How do you not sleep paralysis? Like I get it from lack of sleep. Yeah We were once in their life.  I would be sleeping next to marty at the time That's when we shared a bed and I'd be twitching and I'd be watching him trying to wake up But I couldn't I thought I was screaming at him and then I wake up and go do sometimes you were screaming But I just chose not to move because I was like fuck.  I'm going to leave You could see me screaming.  It was night number one and that was my first ever sleep Oh, maybe my second sleep paralysis like attack.   Did I actually yell out?  Come here Come and sleep with me I did in my head yell out to him for help because I was so scared and I was like, please tell me that did not happen I'm pretty sure it doesn't because he I thought I was yelling at Marty I asked him one.  That's creative.  There's a billboard An empty billboard and it says call this number for advertising So that's what Michael and I did last week was driving past.    I see your billboard in next to uh, tram site and I uh, won't call about uh, maybe booking uh advertisement for my peak business and I call see how much So I uh, your number on the billboard there, it's uh on on the billboard I called the number here It's been there 10 years. I have no idea. I can't help you. Sorry. So you could you leave your number on billboard for 10 year You expect me to believe that uh, you have not to call them and say take my number down, huh? I wish I wish I could Why are you not to call uh, and tell them to remove number, huh?   Why you why you say that? You clearly uh, have some uh, discrimination for my Talking talking funny. You say that uh, let me talk a funny and you Know to business with me But that you don't do business with me. Why because I uh I have no idea. I have no idea what you're talking about buddy.  So I called them about the billboard.  Some guy Oh What do you mean some guy Listen here, buddy. You know if you come down. Yeah, I listen, huh? Okay, all right. I've no I've no idea who you are And you need to calm down. Okay. Okay. I listen. I listen and pussy.  What do you mean? Your number on billboard Oh, no, you listen me.  Okay. I put your number on billboard people Good. Listen. Listen here. Listen here, mate That number has been on that billboard for 10 years someone removed the skin And so my number is now on the billboard. I don't know who the new owners are And I have no idea who owns it. Oh, man.     Oh, he's quite angry. He's got an attitude. Hey Oh, man. It's nice.  He must cop it a few times. He sounded quite.  It's not german and he's eastern european What's his name again? I don't do him. How do you forget that? Yeah, that guy when he gets upset it gets exciting. Oh, man It's all right. Anyway, um He wants to fight Arnold at his house Oh I should have given him julian's address And then I could should have message julian. Hey, man, I got a guy coming to give you a gift come out on the street and meet him for me Okay, so Anyway, that is the end of episode number 15 come back next week because I guarantee it'll be way better We're the best. We're the best. We're the best best best. We're the best. We're the best. We're the best best best best best


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