Live from Las Vegas, it's theCUBE! Covering AWS re-invent 2019. Brought to you by Amazon Web Services and Intel, along with its ecosystem partners. Well, welcome back live in Las Vegas. We're here on theCUBE. Continue our coverage here. Day two of AWS Re-Invent 2019. In fact, it took me to the last interview over the second day to be paired up with my guys, Stu Miniman, Stu, what happened? This is the first interview we've done this week. Well, John, you know, I've not been out playing golf, so. And I wouldn't mind if I was, it'd be all right. Brandon, you play golf? Brandon Young? I do, I play college golf, so. Oh, you did? And I have, you can't see them, but I have some trousers that might match. They're improved that I have done a few times. Pain syrup would be proud. Yes, he would be very proud. Brandon's a VP of alliances at GitLab. Where'd you play college golf, by the way? I spent some time in Oklahoma and down at Rice down in Houston. Yeah, OU? OU, yes. Wow, be a sooner, how about that? Yes, yes, so. They have some pretty good golfers there. They do. First off, let's talk about VP of alliances. Sure. And GitLab, what do you do? So what does that encompass? What's that all about? It covers a bunch of pieces, covers all of the big key partnerships with us, so that's going to be obviously Amazon, the other big cloud providers, a lot of strategic technology partnerships, and then all your system integrators, man-service providers, resellers, and then, functionally, anything else that comes in. So also, we are big in the open-source space, so lead a lot of our open-source engagement as well. What kind of customer base we're talking about here? I mean, for you guys, sorry, because it's pretty significant. It is, so in the space, we've got roughly two to three million users that use GitLab and count on it for building, deploying, and securing their code, and somewhere between 100,000 and 200,000 companies that GitLab is being used at. Brennan, you're not only with GitLab, you're also on the board for the Linux Foundation, and we're getting close to 2020, so I even, I saw some people looking back at where open-sources come in the last decade, and Git, of course, is one of the predominant drivers for the proliferation of open-source. So tell us a little bit about what your customers come to, why GitLab is so critical to what they're doing. Sure, yeah, if we look at history, it kind of makes, naturally, in GitLab, we're Git, so that was where our base was when we started 2012, 2013, as it's evolved, so, and Git continues to be that core piece you need, so whether you're doing GitOps, infrastructure as code, application development, you've got to have state, you've got to store your issues, you've got to take care of that, that's just one-on-one in software development or infrastructure management, so that's kind of where we started, and then a couple years later, we picked up and did a bunch of stuff in the CI-CD space. Initially, we had them separate, and customers kept saying, ah, these might work well together, and to the Linux world has always been single-tool, very sharp, very narrow, so we held off on that for a long time, finally said, oh, we're going to give it a go, shipped them together, and that's kind of led to where we are now, which is we think of GitLab as a single-tool for the entire DevOps life cycle, and that makes it easy for someone to get started, to build it, secure it, ship it, all of that from idea to production in the shortest possible time, and so that's kind of how it evolved, and yeah, we've grown up with the open-source world ever since, and it's an awesome place. All right, so you've got the alliances, and we're here at the biggest cloud show there, so help us connect the dots, GitLab, AWS. Yeah, perfect, so if we kind of look back and we go, look at the keynote, right? So Andy talked a whole bunch, front keynote, Goldman Sachs, big talk with Verizon, a lot around the services, new stuff with ARM, new chips, new, a lot of new databases, all of that rolled out. Those are services as Amazon looks at it. Our goal, our job is to get those customers onto the Amazon services. We're the tool that helps them develop and deploy those applications. Goldman, huge customer, Verizon, huge customer, so the majority of the keynotes use GitLab to get to Amazon, so we're that tool that does the application security deployment and lets those devs really take advantage of the great services that Amazon delivers. You know, when you talk about security, is it, and obviously it's increased in terms of its importance, we recognize, we've seen how vulnerable apps can be and these invasion points. Is that being reflected in budgets? Are we seeing that? Are people making these kinds of investments or is there still some lip service being paid to it and maybe they need a little more money where their mouth is? There's not a shortage of dollars, so I'll be real straightforward. That is for us, the big growth area is application security in a pipeline, the notion of shift left. And it's actually one of the easier conversations because the CISOs really want to make sure that every piece of code is tested, be it static code, dynamic code, license scanning, all the above. The way they've had to do that and traditionally done it is at the end of a pipeline and they make every dev unhappy because they throw it all the way back to the front with the dev and it's like, ah, thank you so much. I did that two weeks ago and now I have to go back. Yeah, why don't we do it on the front side instead of the back side? Yeah, you kill the most important thing which is cycle time, right? Cycle time is time from idea to chip. So by shifting it left, there's plenty of money and the CISOs love it because. It's just when you spend it. It's where they spend it, right? And so now they get all the code tested, the devs love it because they get feedback instead of the CISOs saying this is broken. The two old, the second they hit commit a couple minutes later, oh, it's broken. They go fix it, make another commit. They're going to move way faster, much. So that's really what we get at. Yeah, but no shortage of dollars. The security still don't. But it's about when the spend happens. You're saying it's on the front side instead of the back side. Yeah, yeah, and try and get full coverage. So a lot of times, otherwise, if you're trying to do security after someone's developed it, you're not sure, like are you getting every code, all the piece of code that was developed? Are you getting just a lot of it as you talk about web apps, a lot of it's a focus. Oh, the web apps, because that's the front end. But intrusion, once it passed the front end, it's a soft interior.  Yeah, it's Brandon. So what I've heard, especially from my peers in the security industry, security needs to be considered the entire way. Security is everyone's job, chair's responsibility. I need to think about it. But the other thing that really has changed for people is you talk about CICD, I need to move fast. Well, hold on, the security team's got to review everything. One of the core principles of DevOps is you want to bake it in the process. You need to get them involved. And then there's DevSecOps, which pulls all of these pieces together. So tell us how those trends are going and that speed and security actually go together not opposed. And it's how you measure the speed. Because I think sometimes the question is all back to what is it from, it's a life cycle. And if that's what you're measuring, being able to do the security earlier is so much faster because you're not having to iterate later. But it continues to increase. Devs are getting more and more, say that's not going to change any time soon. Empowering those devs to own the security, empowering those devs through the pipeline to be able to deploy into Lambda, into Fargate. They love that. And if you can give that and give the security, the visibility, the dashboarding, the understanding of what just went in, what code they're using, what the licenses are, that visibility's huge. And that allows you to move fast because of trust. I mean, actually, I love the researchers at Dora, do the annual survey on DevOps. And they said, actually, if you are a company that tends to deploy less often, it tends to take you much longer to recover and you're not geared to be able to do it. My background is networking and you think about security is one of those things like, well, wait, I want to keep my things stable and not change it for a while, but that means you're less and less secure because I need to be on the latest patch. I need to be able to update things there. So CICD, I think, should lead to greater security. Do you have some stats around that for your customer as to how they measure that? I mean, we have some pretty good velocity. So Goldman went with us, and this is real public, because they started with us and went from about a two week release cycle down to 10, 20, 100 times a day. I mean, that's a company that does a great job on Dev, but it can also be smaller companies like Wag Labs that we talked to you through earlier. And they, same kind of thing. They went often from a week down to, they were doing, they typically do 20 to 30 deployments a day. And again, it just makes you break the pieces smaller, less likely that you're going to introduce dependencies that break something, and all that process builds on each other as the door is stuffed. If you haven't read, you've read it obviously, but if the users have a great place to get started and understand how this works. No. Has testing changed, or is testing changing in terms of when you establish a criteria, what you're looking for in terms of, I guess you have a lot of new capabilities. So you've got to change.  Is that environment? It's changed some, but I mean testing, in application testing, it is pretty specific to every company. So tools continue to get better. Ways of review have gotten a lot better. So there's now a lot of capabilities that at the point that you're going to go into deployment.  And a lot of these have gotten to a point, we have one click at the end to deploy a review app. Anyone in the company can look at exactly, rebuild everything you're going to about to deploy. So there's some tools that make it faster. But in terms of what you're load balancing, in terms of your user acceptance testing, a lot of those principles continue to be pretty good. Same drill, yeah. One of the big things we heard from Andy Jassy is talking about transformation. And he said, you can't just do it incrementally and you need clear leadership and commitment. I want to hear how you're hearing about this from your customers. How is GitLab helping customers along those transformation journeys? Sure, so totally agree that, I mean, it's a cultural piece without question. I think there's a couple of places. There's obviously the tool piece and just getting everyone on the same page. And we all know this intuitively is we've seen when you go from a word doc to a Google doc and everyone can edit at the same time. That's transformation because you know what everyone's working on and you're not duplicating effort. And that's really, in many ways, that's what GitLab is doing, is just helping the front end product manager know exactly what's going on the infrastructure side and you communicate in a similar language. The other piece that we are working a lot in is because GitLab operates an extremely open culture. So we publish how we run the company in a handbook that's 2,500 pages. We're always updating it. So we do reviews every time we release, we release every single month for the last 120 months in a row. We go through, here's what the release is going to be. It's on YouTube, everyone can see it. When things go wrong, we publish it. So we have an outage, we have live broadcast how we get back out from an outage and we publish all of it for someone to understand. And so one of the other things is a lot of our customers are getting started on that journey. There's one thing for a doc that says, here's what you do for your transformation for your company. It's another thing when you can literally jump in on Monday morning onto the GitLab call and watch GitLab go through a post-mortem of when we had a small outage. Oh, that's what a no blame looks like. Okay, now I understand that. Hey, what didn't we release that we could have done better? And those are processes that, you can have it on a piece of paper, but it's a different thing when you can walk through that with a company. And it's even better when you're watching the company that's doing the same product, the same tool that you're using. So that's a cultural decision. I mean, it's got to be, right? And it takes, I love the no blame, right? Because you're saying instead of figure pointing or castigating, we're going to learn from this. And how do you think, what impact does that have on a customer when they see you in real time solving your problems? They know that if they have a question for us, that we both take it seriously and that we're going to do it in a way that they know when it's going to be resolved. And that doesn't mean that we always deliver at the time that a customer asks, but that level of transparency breeds both a trust. And it also helps a customer quantify what do they want? Helps a huge amount of communication because they know what we're prioritizing and they understand why. And that isn't something that is typical to a company. It's always typically very hard unless you're broadcast everything like we do to know, well, why are they making that decision? And so that's one of the real big reasons that our customers work with us. That's where we get 10,000 plus additional contributors to GitLab as an open source project. And that helps massively, of course, to the velocity is because there's no difference between the 1,000 GitLabbers in 64 countries or any one of the 10,000 contributors or our biggest competitors that regularly make contributions to our landscape. So we have a landscape that's, how does DevOps work? Who does stuff well?  If they delivered something better, I want to know that. Make that commit, we will share it with the world that we are not good at that and you are better at it. And you know what? We'll get better. Right, it's a winning formula. It's been good for you. It's been working really well. Appreciate the time, Brandon. Good seeing you. Thank you. And again, love the slacks. Wish we could show them. But next time. Thanks for having us. All right, you're watching coverage here of AWS FreeInfinite 2019 on theCUBE.


Hello in this video we're going to talk about possibly one of the next big SPAC stocks in a particular sector which is the EV sector which as we know is a hot sector right now the electric vehicle sector and there has been a lot of focus in terms of vehicles that are for in terms of you know consumers but there's not been as much in terms of electric vehicles for buses and those sorts of areas so that we're going to look into this so there's a potential merger that could happen again this is highly speculative but this is in terms of quell stock and they could be merging with a company called Proterra which we'll go into so let's just look into the information we'll go through some of the information why I think this might be happening some of the research on the company that they could be merging with some of the research on the SPAC and we'll go through this in a step-by-step presentation but that will keep the video short and sweet just just to respect your time please also like the video if you can I'm new to making stock market videos it really helps it out by getting up in the YouTube algorithm and I've got to say obviously I'm not a financial advisor I teach business on a daily life but I'm not by any means an expert when it comes to the stock market let's get right into this so first of all I thought it'd be a good idea to look at quell themselves to see what do they say in terms of what they produce and think about what in terms of rumors that are going around in terms of the speculation would it make sense to is it is it matching is them is the rumors of who it might be merging with matching with the ethos of the of the actual SPAC merger so let's have a look through it so our team extensively operational and investment experience in the next generation mobility transport and sustainable industry technology success sectors we believe the growth in these global interconnected markets will be driven by fleets and individual consumers demanding increased connectivity along with more sustainable efficient and smarter transportation solutions so it seems like it's very much involved in potentially the electric vehicle market in terms of being sustainable and then we've got transportation systems so what's that going to mean potentially buses and other areas we aim to partner with an exceptional highly entrepreneurial technological orientated company in our target markets of a strong growth prospects a defensible competitive position and appeal as a public company so we'll look at this so what they're trying to obtain here is potentially company as one of the options is a company that is involved in the EV sector there's a state able sector and involved in transport okay so let's have a look in terms of the this so who are they going to merge with so this is the company that they might be merging with and let's see if this matches what what quail QQ quail is saying in terms of who they they're looking to merge with so says here this is the company okay so it's time for clean quiet transportation for all communications communities are growing and evolving and with that our transportation needs are changing now more than ever we need safer more reliable cleaner options sustainability every day pro terra works to meet those needs in the world class world's best electric vehicle technology solutions pro terra is a leader in the design and manufacturing of zero emissions electric transit vehicles okay vehicle technology season for heavy-duty vehicles since 2004 as major cities are converting to 100% electric fees pro terra vehicles have become the most popular electric buses on the road in North America so they are a market leader in this particular area is what they're trying to say there and and this could be a highly attractive merger for them if quail can get this confirmed but again this is all speculations we don't know but if it is this company it's going to be big okay so pro terra has sold more than 1000 electric buses up to 125 communities across 43 u.s states and canadian provinces with more than 10 years of deliveries today our buses are deployed in airports universities national parks and companies are very diversified in terms of where it can actually deploy the buses which is great okay now just to a recent article i'm seeking officer it says that quail acquisition corps back would make sense to target EV bus maker pro terra so if you look at what pro terra do and then if you look at what quail are looking to merge with you'll notice that there is a link between them there and again it is speculative because it's not confirmed but it would make sense for for these two okay so but but you know if it's not going to be pro terra obviously they want to quail want to acquire a company that is in this high growth area so even if it's not pro terra there's still potential for this back so who would have thought an electric bus would drive circles around any personal EV on the road so so ultimately what you're saying here i'll shorten this bit in terms of the information so they design the manufacture their own batteries in silicon valley as well in terms of the build their own batteries in house we build our buses around those batteries so they've got a bit of a competitive advantage in terms of what they're doing pro terra because they're bit obviously building their manufacturing in house they're building their own batteries and they're building their own buses so that has a competitive advantage they can put some unique selling points into their products and produce better quality products that are better than those on the market which helps with the competitive advantage which is a key area of success for for particularly in the electric vehicle sector okay so we've innovated our own charging systems specifically for heavy duty fleets brilliant good to stuff so put it also give a pro terra's breaking records not for every duty vehicles but commercial and personal EVs of all sizes okay so they're involved in a wide variety of areas they do have a strong strategic direction in one area but but they're also diversifying and this is just some recent news that's come out on the november 19th here so they've celebrated 100 not 100,000 we wish right a thousandth battery electric bus sold with brood county transit purchase so there is a growing demand for these these electric bus vehicles they're growing in sales which obviously means that the the company itself is becoming even more attractive in terms of profitability there so what are some of the positives for this brand and if it is merging with quell well obviously it's got a strong brand it's got a lot of history behind it and it's got a working product okay so if this this could be big it's got a you know it's a very strong brand and they've built up being a market leader in setting specific segments in the EV sector which is good and from what i could see when i was doing my research what i could see is a very much a fantastic strategic direction so they've got their main kind of focus in what vehicle they're producing and who they're trying to sell it to okay so they've got a strong strategic direction some of these companies they are have this scattergun approach where it's like let's just get involved in all sorts of different industries let's do a bit of this a bit of that and a problem with that is you don't have a a direction if you're doing too many things at once whereas this company is very much focused on its direction and where it's going and open intended there so it's a fantastic strategic direction it's also highly credible it's already built up good reputation it's already built up a lot of contracts and partnerships it's got a good credibility element to the company and also it's in a growing sector as we know the electric vehicle sector is continuing to grow okay which is brilliant because that means more sales more profitability and more potential gains for investors okay now the negative and this is well you can swing trade this being speculative and they make money from just it being speculative you know in terms of selling the rumors you know sir sir is highly speculative in terms of this because we don't know this is not confirmed the merger okay it's not confirmed who they're going with so it's highly speculative very speculative so you know we don't know essentially fully yet so you've got to bear that in mind you know if you do invest in it obviously it may take some some time here and it may be speculative for quite some time but you know you could see and run up and you could make 20 30 sell off and then buy it back again cheaper so in that terms of speculative in that sense there's money to be made but here what we've got here is it's up after hours by 5.18% okay so it's at 1360 so i'm hoping for a little bit of a pullback and maybe i'll buy more when it's in the 12 50 12 80 range again if it does do that pullback but ultimately you know you can see that there's been up on the back of this rumor and i have to stress rumor i have to stress speculation okay but on the back of that it's already shut up in price okay so something to consider something to consider there anyway so that is that is some information on this particular spec if this was video helpful in any sort of way then please do leave it a like it really helps out in the youtube algorithm if you just hit the like button and it pushes up in the search results and also if you're new to the channel and you want more like presentation style we go through it step by step go through the information if you like that sort of stuff then give the give the channel subscribe and produce more videos for you okay i'll speak to everybody later


And this session is entitled Multilingualism Invented. We have three distinguished speakers, three presentations of 25 minutes. After those, the presenters will have the opportunities to comment and ask each other questions before we open up the discussion to the public. It's a great pleasure to introduce our first speaker, Thomas Paul Bonfilio. He is a William Judge and Gaines Professor of Comparative Literature and Linguistics at the University of Richmond. And the title of his presentation is The Invention of the Native Speaker. Thank you, Peter. And again, repeated, repeated thanks to Chantel and David for organizing this fabulous symposium. And bonjour, chéri. And also thank you as well for giving me 15 hours difference from Claire Kramsch, an act impossible to follow. And I appreciate the time. On Thursday, July 12, 1990, the Singapore newspaper The Straits Times listed the following advertisement. Established private school urgently requires native speaking expatriate English teachers for foreign students. By Saturday, July 14, the advertisement had been changed to read, established private school urgently requires native speaking Caucasian teachers for foreign students. It does not require great powers of speculation to imagine the discussions at The Straits Times on that Friday the 13th. And an auspicious day for the Anglophone applicants who didn't look like they spoke English properly. This example belies the ostensible innocence and neutrality of the Locution Native Speaker, which is used to indicate someone possessing natural authority in language. It shows that the semantic field of the term native clearly contains notions of race and ethnicity. The ethnic ownership of language is supported by the divisive image of the authority of the native speaker, an authority that is configured as an infallible birthright and innate sense of the acceptable utterance. Recent research, however, beginning with Thomas Pike Day's The Native Speaker is Dead, 1985, has illuminated the prejudicial gestures of power and hegemony in the image of the native speaker. Although scholarship has succeeded in problematizing the issue, the concept of native speaker itself has never been historicized. My work historicizes the metaphors of nativity and maternality found in the Locution's native speaker, mother tongue, long maternel, locaternative, motashpracha, lingua materna, modarspraca, and so on, and illuminates the ethnolinguistic prejudices that generate the apparently innocent kinship metaphors employed to describe the authority of the L1 speaker. The object of criticism is native speaker, the neutral term is L1, okay, because it gets rid of notions of nativity. These Locutions arose with the nation states they didn't exist before in the early modern era as gestures of ethnolinguistic nationalism. In its prejudicial form, our native language, our mother tongue, which is our birthright, is seen as endangered by the presence of an other who is perceived as a biological contaminant and thus a threat to the matrix of nation, ethnicity, and language. The genetic myths of mother tongue and native language, especially in the service of exclusionary nationalism, were not present in antiquity, those metaphors were not there. While the Romans and Greeks had clear standards of proper Roman Latin and Attic Greek, they did not articulate these standards in ethnic contexts. The Greek term for proper speech was Glossa Attike, if we see up there, Attic speech, which denoted speaking within the established tradition. Although language purism was widespread among the Greeks, there was no evidence that the performance of Glossa Attike was connected to ethnicity or nativity. The collective identity of the Greek elite tended to be articulated through culture and language rather than race. The Roman discourse of language also had little in common with the current Western notions of native speaker and mother tongue. The Roman term for proper speech was Sermo Patrios. This location is regularly mistranslated as native language, although those roots are not there. In spite of the absence of images of nativity in the original Latin, the term Sermo refers to discourse in general, and Patrios indicates speaking in the proper tradition of the forefathers. The massive digital library, Perseus, offers no examples of Sermo in combination with derivatives of Mater or Natus. It's not present in antiquity. Ancient Greece and Rome were by no means exempt from racism, but ideologies of race and ethnicity were not present in the discourse of language at that time. One can apply some of the theories of Benedict Anderson's imagined communities, could we go down a bit, yeah, to the historicization of the native speaker. The hegemony of Latin in the Roman Empire had made that language the monolithic medium of law education and culture in general. The same was true of the Latin middle ages. From the Roman Empire, Christianity inherited in Toto a massive infrastructural network and administrative monopoly that only needed rededication in religious terms. All texts of the church were produced in Latin, which was the language of instruction for all university students as well. All were second language learners, all were L2 learners, and none could claim native language property rights. Hans Korn holds that in the middle ages, people looked upon everything as not from the point of view of their nationality or race, but from the point of view of religion. Mankind was divided not into Germans and French and Slavs and Italians, but into Christians and infidels, and within Christianity, into the faithful sons of the church and heretics. The nascent of the mother tongue was to await the secular catalytic influences of the early modern period. The birth of the nation states and the need to justify writing in the national vernaculars, Italian, French, German, Spanish, et cetera, instead of in Latin. In 1304, Dante Alighieri wrote De vulgari e loquentia, in which he characterized the difference between the vernacular and Italian as such. I declare that vernacular language is that which we learn without any formal instruction by imitating our wet nurses, nutricem. There also exists another kind of language, which the Romans called Grammatica. Few, however, achieve complete fluency in it. Of these two kinds of language, the more noble is the vernacular because it was the language originally used by humans and because it is natural to us while the other is, in contrast, artificial. Dante thus situates the Italian vernacular as natural and Latin as artificial. The notion of a maternal connection is implicit in the word nutrix, which in the plural also stands as a trope for the breasts. Dante muses over the origin of language and is confronted with a problem. If we learn the first language from our wet nurses, from whom did Adam learn his first language?  Here are the figures of the mother and of maternality become explicit. In the next paragraph Dante uses for the first time the phrase mother tongue, maternam locutio nem. The observations of Dante on the superiority of Italian vis-a-vis Latin are indicative of a Copernican revolution in the configuration and representation of language. The understanding of language in terms of metaphors of nativity and maternality was to become the dominant linguistic episteme thereafter. It persists to the present day. Not only in popular, but also in academic discourse. Can we drop down a bit? Man without mother, yes please, let's see if we can get this. Whoop, whoop, whoop, sorry. Can we go back up a bit? Yeah, great, right there, thank you. You can stand, stand, you don't have to. Okay, go ahead. The observations of Dante on the superior, whoop, whoop, whoop, I just said that, yes, okay. The Italian Renaissance scholar Pietro Bembo, who authored Le prose della volga lingua, said that we drink the vernacular with the milk of our wet nurses, latte dalle nutrici. The question remains, how do we explain the shift from sermo patrios to lingua materna? The sudden appearance of maternal images in the discourse of language in the late Middle Ages is not at all gratuitous or coincidental. It arose from the larger cultural religious and political milieu of the time. It is important to remember that the intellectual discourse of the European Middle Ages was largely produced and consumed by ecclesiastics. The most important figure in medieval Catholicism was clearly Jesus. Also of great importance was the figure of Mary the mother of God, who functioned as a mediatrix and to whom one directed prayers. Mary's role was to intercede in the presence of her son on behalf of the petitioner. The maternity of Mary was a pivotal image in medieval painting and sculpture. She has often represented nursing the baby Jesus, which served to sanctify the acts of lactation and nursing themselves. Interestingly, the maternal corporeality of Mary also acted in combination with that of Jesus himself as he who provided his body and blood in the right of the Eucharist. The two corporeal images functioned in symbiosis. The medieval scholar Carolyn Bynum has written extensively on the figure of Mary in the Middle Ages. Bynum observes that women's bodies in the acts of lactation and giving birth were analogous to both ordinary food and the body of Christ as it died on the cross and gave birth to salvation. She adds, through lactation, woman is the essential food provider and preparer. Bynum holds that the cult of the virgin's milk was one of the most extensive in late medieval Europe. It was so powerful that it became extended to Jesus and the church as well. This cult generated some odd permutations among which are found depictions of a lactating Jesus. And let's see how we're doing here. Good. The first image is by Curizia da Morano, and this is from the Galleria dell'Academia Venezia. We can see what has happened here. Now that was the wound in Christ's side, right? You push it up to the breast. He's dispensing communion, right? The image of the virgin in the Middle Ages was so powerful that it engendered a re-gendering of the figure of Jesus. Can I have the next image, please? I'm sorry, next picture, yes. I've never felt, I've never had this much power before. Fiat pictura poesis. The second image, which is Christus und Caritas from the Rheinisches Bildarchiv in Köln, also shows the same image where the breast is, Jesus is dispensing his sanctifying blood into a cell. Let's see the next image, please. This one is quite interesting. It's Conrad Witz, Christus und der Ungleibige Thomas, und Christus und Maria für bitten vor Gott Vater. And this is from Basel.  And she's displaying her breast. Jesus is pointing to his wound breast and there's the nice blonde God, the father, listening to them. And then Thomas is over on the side sticking his finger into the wounds of Christ. Next image, please. This is from the Pulpito del Duomo de Pisa by Giovanni Pisano. And it's something that's called ecclesia lactans, the lactating church. We can see that this bi-gendered figure is basically a neutrifying, if you will, the parishioners. And the next image, please. This is wonderful. This is from the Domplatz in Nürnberg. It's der Tugenprudin, the Fountain of Virtues. And there's a statue, a allegorical statue of each virtue dispensing water from the breasts. Let's have the next picture, which is a close-up. And we can see that the virtues are literally coming out of their breasts.  We'll hold on to that. Now, when I discovered this, of course, I would engage my own cultural heritage. And the first thing I said was, Maronami, that was my reaction. I wasn't the first. I found out that Leo Spitzer, the wonderful comparator, Leo Spitzer, had said the same thing in 1948 in an article that just got lost in the absence of a sociolinguistic culture studies in 1948. It was a good 40, 50 years ahead of its time in the article Muttersprache und Mutter Erziehung. Okay, something else is going on as well. One of the most influential images in the generation of ethnolinguistic prejudice is that of the Tower of Babel, which serves as a conventional point of reference for claims of linguistic primordiality and sanctity. There are only three known representations of the Tower before the end of the 11th century, but there are 140 representations between 1550 and the early 17th century. An appearance that correlates with the anxieties of the emerging nation state. Could I have the next image, please? We have two types of images of the Tower of Babel. This is a very, not a very common one, one that goes straight up, okay? Why not? Well, number one, it's architecturally unsound because it's gonna fall over, right? But there's another reason, please advance. This is, these are much more common, okay? And this is, could I have the, yeah, can you scroll down a bit? I'm sorry, yeah, the first one, I forgot to give you the, I'll just go back. We need to go back up again. Yeah, the, this is the, the Babel Tower. That was the narrow one by the Meister der Welt in König. Not a wonderful name, wouldn't you? I'd love to be called the Meister der Welt in König. The second one is Lukas von Faischenbosch, Toren von Babel. And this is a much more common image. Now let's think about this.  The polyphonic entrances that become less and less as one approaches an original language. So this is a fantasy of returning to an original language. The image of the Tower of Babel is symptomatic of the birth trauma of nation and national language. Europe is first born as a mosaic of linguistic orphanages of languages bereft of the medium that had united their speakers in a super regional whole. Umberto Eco observes, before this confusion there was no European culture and hence no Europe. What is Europe anyway? It is a continent barely distinguishable from Asia, existing before people had invented a name for it. Europe was an entity that had to wait for the fall of the Roman Empire and the birth of the, of the Romano-Germanic kingdoms before it could be born. I love that term Romano-Germanic kingdoms. Students could form a campus organization, the Romano-Germanic kingdom. How are we going to establish the date when the history of Europe begins? The dates of great political events and battles will not do. The dates of linguistic events must serve in their stead. Europe first appears as a babble of new languages. Only afterwards was it a mosaic of nations. Europe was thus born from its vulgar tongues. Vernacular language is at the heart of nation forming and thus at the heart of nationalism and the ethnic ownership of language. It was nationalist ideologies that generated the first instances of the combination of mother and language or tongue as follows. Icelandic Modormal, 1350, Swedish Modormale, 1370, English Modertumge, 1380, Low German Moda Sprach, 1424, High German Muttersprache used by who, can you guess? 1522, who used it? Minigamanist, yep. Luther, who was the first person to use it? In a document where he said that communion works better in German than in Latin. It comes, you can give communion better in German because it's closer to the Greek. And the French long maternel, 1538. The word nation in the modern sense appears at the same time. The location of language in body and kinship does not however fully account for its naturalization nor for its nationalization. Another ideology played a crucial role in the emergence of language as an implement of ethnic prejudice, the understanding of language by reference to local organic nature. This also begins in Italy in the work of the Renaissance rhetorician Sperone Sperone. And a wonderful name, sounds like ice cream, doesn't it? Who is a principal member of the Accademia degli Infiamazzi and the author in 1542 of a polemic advocating publication in the Italian vernaculars. Sperone speaks of our mother tongue, La lingua nostra materna, which is today our own and belongs to no one.  Thereupon follow numerous organic metaphors. Italian is still a short little branch that has yet to fully bloom and produce the fruits that it is capable of bearing. Because Latin was dominant, Italians did not sufficiently cultivate it, but as with a wild plant, left it to age and almost die in the same desert in which it had been born without ever watering it nor pruning it, nor protecting it from the brambles that overshadowed it. So here we have the entry into the discourse of language of organic metaphors from folkloric origin. Sperone's organism of language found significant reception in the work of his French contemporary Joachim Dubellé. Dubellé was a member of La Pleiade, the literary society that sought to ameliorate the French language. Dubellé's manifesto de France, illustration de la langue Françoise, constitutes the first instance of organic metaphors in the validation of French, such as images of herbs, roots, and trees. Metaphors that he lifted, however, wholesale from Sperone. He observes that Latin bore fruit, but French has yet to flower or fructify because it was a wild plant that was not watered, pruned, or protected from brambles and thorns. The first advocates of writing in the vernacular found themselves in a kind of linguistic orphanage. Latin and Greek had uncontestable literary and philosophical traditions. The new runaway vernaculars must by definition have none. The answer to this dilemma lay in the invention of attributes that were outside of the intellectual tradition received from antiquity. And these attributes had to be local, for one had to differentiate one's own nation and national language from others, as well as from the tradition of antiquity. National language and character thus became co-determined by the invention of their origin in the mother's body and in local organic nature in our bodies and our land. This is the beginning of the biologizing of language. Very dangerous, very dangerous movement. The work of the French political theorist, Jean Baudin. Do we have him up there? Yeah, good. In his L'Asie Livre de la République views national characteristics as a product of climate and geography. Baudin divides countries into three groups. Those within 30 degrees of the equator, the burning regions. Those between 30 and 60 degrees, the intermediate peoples and temperate regions, and those above 60 degrees, the excessively cold regions. The peoples of the middle regions have the characteristics most conducive to governing. The peoples of the North are strong, but not all that bright. Those of the South are intelligent, but lack physical force. The former have produced good armies, the latter good philosophy, those of the middle regions, however, combine the best of both worlds. They excelled in government, have established the greatest empires, example Greeks and the Romans. Guess who Baudin places right in the middle? Of course, the French. And he chooses to emphasize the image of the French as natural mediators in the middle, right? Once he's in Baudin, the construction of a certain kind of nature, a psychogeography in the service of nationalist interests. Baudin's theories suppose a national character, naturalize it in local physical nature and thus render it the organic, personal property of the French people. German is the same thing. The year 1492, and this is Marie-Louise also mentioned this, witnessed the appearance of the first vernacular grammar in any language, the grammatica de la lengua castellana of Antonio de Nebria. Nebria dedicates his grammar to Queen Isabella and characterizes it as a compañero del imperio. Excuse my Italian accent in Spanish. He claims that language has always been a companion of empire as Latin was for Rome and says that empires like languages grow, flourish, bloom and wilt. Now is the time for the Spanish empire in the Castilian language and his grammar will secure imperial power for Isabella. Thus, the very first vernacular grammar configures language as organic and imperial at the same time. These ideologies subsequently spread to Northern Europe. In the late 16th and early 17th centuries, vernacular speakers began to claim their vernacular is the best of all living languages, if not the perfect language. In 1569, Jan van Gogh asserted that the Dutch language in Antwerp was the only one that displayed a perfect representational relationship between words and things. According to Gorp, Antwerp had been colonized by the descendants of the sons of Jappeth, the son of Noah, who were not present at the Tower of Babel. Thus, Dutch was not confused by the dispersion of tongues. The Swedish physician and alchemist, Antares Kempe, conjectured that Swedish was the oldest language in the world. In 1638, he wrote the Sprachen des Paradises in which God speaks Swedish. Adam and Eve speak Danish, an imperfect copy, and guess what the serpent speaks? French, huh? But French are gonna seduce us, all right, just ask. In the 17th century, a good, that's fine. In the 17th century, the nationalist organizing of language generated an ideology of a primordial connection between national language and nature itself. In 1641, the German Baroque poet, Georg Philipp Haasdorfer, claimed that the German language speaks in the languages of nature, quite perceptibly expressing all its sounds. I need some water before this. This was held to translate. Okay, what does German do?  Hisses like the snake, meows like the cat, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, we get it. Nature speaks in our own German tongue. Adam would not have been able to name the birds and all the other beasts of the fields in anything but our words. Now, the major influential nutcase here is Justus Georgiotelius, okay? Discussing the Tower of Babel, he asks, what name was it then, which the scattered humans wanted to indicate the true God? It is the name from which we Germans have our name, Toit, which is thus the name of the true God himself, itself, so that German, Toitisch, more or less means godly or godlike. It is difficult to imagine an assertion more chauvinistic than the name of one's language is the original word for God. I think that about does it. Justus Georgiotelius then invokes images of a tree of language, the Sprachbaum. This is where our trees of language come from, guys, folkloric and racial origins. We gotta stop using them. Excuse me. Okay. Chartelius then evokes the image of the tree of language in a confused and quite baroque, morass of entangled analogies. Language possesses, oh, I don't, yeah, okay, it's not there, good. Okay. Language possesses word stems that like juice-rich roots hydrate the whole language tree whose sprouts and twigs abounding in branches and veins spread high and wide in the most beautiful purity, steady certainty, unimaginable variety. The artful growth of our main language is comparable to an impressive fertile tree that has extended its juice-rich roots deep far and wide into the earth. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay. We get the message. One sees here the extremes to which the anxiety of vernacular authority can motivate the philology of nationalism. One, it arrives at a co-determining intertwining of the trees of nature and the trees of language. This is the birth of the arboreal models of language that we are familiar with. How does this play out subsequently? The discourse becomes more abstract but never leaves its folkloric ethnocentric origins. Chartelius was read extensively by Leibniz. This is where Leibniz got it from. Who developed the philosophy of organicism, Leibniz influenced Rousseau, and his Essay sur l'origine des langues applies Baudin's theories of climatology to language. Rousseau, of course, influenced Herda, relates language and nation to climate. In the 19th century, the philologist Friedrich Schlegel, Wilhelm von Humboldt and Franz Bopp developed the distinction between analytic and synthetic languages and view the synthetic ones, the European ones, as organic and superior. The other ones, the analytic ones, are static. They introduced diagrams for language, tree diagrams for language, which act to configure it genealogically. August Schleicher applied biology to the study of language and saw languages as species and dialects as races. And Schleicher, if I could have the next image, please. Schleicher was one of the first to have a treat. This starts looking like what we're familiar with, right, into European tree diagrams. The Swiss scholar Adolf Pikte from Geneva created the field of linguistic paleontology, in which he views the words of a language the way a paleontologist views fossils as incomplete records of older forms that one can use to reconstruct common ancestors. He concentrates on lexical terms in an attempt to ascertain the original natural environment of the Aryan race, our language, our soil. Can I have the next image, please? Now what Pikte does, he goes through Indo-European roots and locates the organic things that they correspond to in the Indo-European homeland, and he has lists of them, this is from the index, lists and lists. Could I have the next image, please? And we can see what he puts up there, right? Whoops, it's on the other side, excuse me. I can't read it from here, but we can see that he devotes a page to, or even more, to each little urban animal. Now what's he doing here? He is locating our Ursprache, our Adamic language, in nature and again in our bodies. Back and forth, the reader's going to read this. He or she is going to go back and forth between language, body, and organic nature. Knit one, purl two, knit one, purl two, until they become unified. The French religious historian Ernest Reynard used philology to formulate a theory of the superiority of the Aryans over Jews based on a matrix of language, ethnicity, and environment. For Renan, the ancient Jews were nonetheless rooted in a desert civilization that was not only primitive and crude, but incapable of evolution. Ernst Hecker, the famous 19th century biologist, published The History of Creation in 1868. Could I have, we need to advance now. There's more stuff from, please keep on going, because there's more stuff there from, yeah, that's what we need right there. I did it in English, because it comes across better in English. The German is die Naturliche Schüpfungsgeschichte, but I like, I'm writing the history of creation. I like the resonances better. The work begins with single-celled organisms, proceeds to the vegetable and animal kingdoms, then to mammals, finally culminating with the study of humans. One chapter is entitled Migration and Distribution of Mankind, Human Species and Human Races, and contains only one large diagram. It is entailed pedigree of the Indo-Garmani and is situated on two opposing pages. The left side depicts the Semites, in the same way that the language tree diagrams are depicted. The right side is, could I have the next image, please. The Indo-Garmani. The organization of this diagram is quite revealing. The opposing pages visually separate the two human families and affect an othering of the Semitic race. This is an example of language as race and racism. Okay, to conclude, in the early modern period, the notion of language as a botanical entity entered into the cultural habitus. The habitual understanding of language as such aided in its enracination and configuration within the matrix of race and ethnicity. The nursery that gave rise to the arboretum of language progressively generated intellectual sublimations of the arboreal model into organist theories of language that intermingled with the images of matronality and lactation. The botanical configuration of language became more and more abstract, but the generalizing gestures always recovered and reinforced language-specific ethnic ideologies. We Aryans have a natural, primeval, organic language. They have something else. The genealogical model of language families was used to sketch broad, ecolinguistic distinctions between Semitic and Aryan, and to separate Christians from Jews. This generated Ernest Lennon's curious statement that organic languages cannot grow in the desert. Can I have the next image, please? Has this ended? Near 2000, we have the Italian biologist, the famous Italian biologist whose name escapes me. I'm having a mental block here. Cavalli Sforza, whom I had to communicate with to get this model. And what's he doing here? Oh, sure, we can't make genetic arguments for language, but let's try anyway. Meanwhile, we can't, but let's try anyway, and we can see what he's doing here. He's trying to coordinate genetic distributions of populations with linguistic families and even gets into this odd, nystratic thing. I don't wanna offend anybody into nystratics. I tell my students, I think these guys did too much weed in college, is what I tell them. Okay, nationalism itself was born in the early modern period of and in language and articulated in the apparently innocent kinship metaphors of maternality and nativity, as well as in the ideology of a natural connection between national character and national geography. Organic metaphors were thus taken from body and nature to construct the myths of imagined congenital communities that still persist today. The nationalist adhesives that fuse self and nation are fabricated from myriad ideologies of ownership and exclusive possession. The notion of the linguistic birthright of the native speaker, communicated in material and maternal and organic metaphors of nativity is but one of the contributory ideologies. It is, however, in its prejudicial aspects among the least perceptible and most embedded forms of nationalism. It is dissolved into the discourse of quotidian life and letters to the point where it is taken for granted as self-evident and neutrally descriptive. Invoked reflexively, its performance remains transparent. Thank you very much.


What's good everybody welcome back to dunk tip Tuesday today We got freaking barth on the mic and we're gonna go talking crazy about everything from dunk training to friggin What's real and what's not and barth actually knows all those answers. So enjoy right barth And we're doing it dunk camp got announced today Yes, it did group one is gonna be back at the dunk camp. Oh, dude knows that reference from like the first Look at us with both of our podcast mics. How good are we? Barth you going to dunk camp 100% I don't think there's any way I wouldn't go same When something like that happens, I don't even like that's too far in the future for my schedule I'm just like I'm there figure it out.  Yeah, my favorite thing about dunk camp is it gives me something really fun to train for? Yes, like Like I would train anyway, but this gives me something really fun to train for that is just for fun It's not competitive and that makes me enjoy my training even more. That's the best How do you stay connected to that enjoyment without dunk camp? Or gosh, I just try to make dunk sessions with people it's a really good thing to think about though because we haven't had dunk camp in two years and Well, technically we had it last year Yeah, but like we didn't get to dunk together really. Yeah, it wasn't the same like feel as this. Yeah, you sound great By the way, look at this guy. Thank you. I think I'd look great too. I'm wearing a polo Yeah, why are you wearing a polo? What are we doing cuz I'm cuz I'm fancy now. I even have a wristband. I'm just By the way, are you recording your audio separate or you're just recording through zoom? I Am not recording a separate, but I can just in case you sound amazing, but we do top We do top of the line here. We don't mess around. How's your YouTube? What are you doing on YouTube these days? What's the content like? What do you just are you just working on training? For the most part I've just been working on training. I've been doing some other like personal stuff in my life Which we won't get into yeah, that'll be the Steven Barth podcast in a different episode behind a paywall Yeah, that's a different episode when we're not talking about dunking but that yeah, so like like Yeah, I was gonna switch it to back to the training when you enjoy your training So what does it look like what day is dunk camp right now? It is March 4th What day is dunk camp may something or June June usually? I'm gonna look it up to give it a dunk camp a shout out you guys the registration opens It's probably open now when this episode drops Registration is open. Yes, and the dunk camp is from August 2nd to August 5th good at Carmelone Beautiful. I love that spot. Yeah, so that's a sick gym So if you guys go back to watch my first vlogs of dunk camp where I met Barth So this is where the dunk world met bar. Oh This is awesome. Yeah, yeah Dude, that's when Barth that's when Barth made his name dude. He was birthed at dunk camp Dude I had like less than 3,000 followers when I went to that dunk camp and what do you had now kid tell the world Oh, we're growing you one point kids creeping on a hundo. Look at the kid go. I love this Okay, so wait, so you birthed at dunk camp Carmelone Center has like what is it four different courts they had like it was sick Yeah, yeah, so there's there's actually there's I believe there's three courts One of them is like kind of like a smaller court than the other two are full-size and they're next to each other Yeah, and then they had like that training area off to the side What is the biggest difference between going to this dunk camp versus last dump dunk camp for first dunk camp? I mean first don't cancer versus third dunk camp for Connor Barth. What's the biggest difference? I think that the biggest difference now is going to be that the last Well, it's especially the first the first one. I literally went to get my name out there I literally went there with the goal of like showing that I'm like the best up-and-coming dunker And then I did that so now I'm like now it's more about like I'm just going to enjoy it more So this time then like try to prove anything right. Yeah, and I just wanted I just wanted like I don't know how to describe it I went to dunk camp to get my name out there But I came out of dunk camp with a lot more friends and just like a greater Appreciation for like the variety of people who enjoyed dunking and I just want to share in that energy I don't really care about the other. Tell me if this is true as well because I remember this from Talking to you post dunk camp one That when you started it with dunking was always a passion But that kind of solidified it as a journey for you to like make it a thing because you always loved it But there was nobody around you that was really doing it. Yeah So I mean like what happened basically was like I always loved dunking And then I found like you and Isaiah and CJ and like the Florida group on YouTube And I found Jordan Kilganon on YouTube and like started talking to him too And I started talking to you guys on Instagram too like before dunk camp ever happened and So like I loved dunking since I was like a kid But I just didn't like I never had anyone who really just did that or just trained for that I didn't have people to do it with near me and Like once I met all you guys and we all had like similar personalities and energy towards it And we just loved it so much like I just couldn't go back after that like it was so much fun And I had a friend group that actually did it so I was like, oh man I'm all in now and it's crazy because now that's what you do, right? That's all you do is dunking and training. Yeah. Yeah for the most part It's crazy any who What do you think's gonna be different this year I think it's gonna be I'm excited for the contest last last one in person It's gonna be hard to beat with Chi doing off of her dunks and things like that, but Yeah, you know, I think the biggest difference this year is that a lot of the bigger names will be there again and be like fully healthy Yeah, I think I think that in terms of like the elite dunkers who are gonna go a lot of them are like freaky now Right like more so than they were and and I think that it's kind of cool Cuz like now that's been you know, it's gonna be over a year since it happened a Lot of the people that went to that last dunk camp have gotten so much better Since then like like a lot of the people who are doing like low-rim probably are gonna be like on the ten foot contest now And actually be able to do new things that like they've never done before in any front of anyone. That's really yeah I love seeing all the people that I've either talked to for years on Instagram or social media Or just seeing people I've seen once or twice or even people that I barely get to see and then people from all over the world Like with the first dunk Kim's friggin. What was it? Where was he from? My boy Hidor? I forget his country, but he was uh, um, it's like not Lithuania, but it was like Scandinavia. No, it was a Stone something.  Yeah, and he was insane So it's fun to see where people freaking come from all over But I'm excited to go to Utah to haven't traveled at all. So that's gonna be nice. I love lehigh. It is yes Member driving through it. Yeah, we were drive. We're gonna go back to the liquid bees. Yeah Dude, that was amazing. I love I loved being the driver. That's such an it's just I love just being there Like when I'm there I'm like done because you I trained so hard like you're saying like the training can get so hard You're just pushing through these goals And when you're there you just get to use it all and just enjoy and do it last I went too hard the first year first year though. That's I have the injury from that year. Yeah That's that's that first year is when all my ten tonight. It's really I have my hamstring injury from that year But you can't blame me because t-dub showed up and we did a low-rim session and then I had the dunk in the friggin Dunk show True dude, you're not gonna not you're not gonna not over jump when that happens By the way, I need to see that footage. I need to get that footage of me and tea That was this was that second year am I make conflating years that that was the second year. Oh my god, this is fourth year This is the fourth year. Yeah, I've been saying the third year this whole time But it's but it's like last year didn't really happen. I know in person experiences But still four years since the first one by the way I wanted to bring this up because I yelled at nobody on my podcast yesterday and I was because people were talking about like I think people get this misconstrued like I was I brought up as As an example just because I know him but you're a good example as well is that in a year. I'm not even gonna Set it up for you in a year What would be a great amount of vertical increase if any that you would try to increase in one year's time like right now? Yes for you. I would say One to two inches right, okay That's exactly what I said because I think people forget that that an inch is so big Especially when you're at your level. Yeah, like if I trained perfectly Yeah, I want to just clarify that like I have not been training perfectly like of in recent times Yeah, if I trained perfectly for a few months and got back to like a 45 like 45 46 Which is the highest I'd ever jump Then from that point I think it would take me a year to get one to two inches probably one Maybe two and it would be like I would have to train Perfect perfect and that's what people don't understand either is that your life happens, too It's like me and you like I said all you do is Duncan train I've built my life because I was in corporate for three years I've built my life around the lifestyle I want but not everybody can train like I can do whatever training I want any time of the day and almost any day of the week now that is Not it most people can't do that so if you're at this level and trying to increase if I told you right now by the end of 2021 you'd hit 47 or 46 Let's say you're at 45 was your base and you measured a 46 you'd be as ecstatic. I would freak. Yeah So and that's a one inch and people are trying to gain 10 inches 12 inches. It's like of course it can happen at the beginning, but you have to Levels that happens at the beginning you're very likely to end up injured like oh, yeah, like it's just it's too much too quickly It's not that you don't want those gains It's just you have to be careful because actually like when I first started lifting to focus on dunking I probably went from like a 39 to like a 44 like really fast But I kept jumping the same amount but the forces I was putting on my body were like just way more that is a huge key That's huge because I got bigger and stronger and you get stronger Especially if you hit a strength as and people understand they need to get stronger now You're jumping with more force and like your muscles adapt way faster than like your ligaments tendons Yeah, yeah, so like then like as stupid as it sounds like especially for beginners You'll get stronger and jump higher faster than your body can actually handle Yeah, you got to kind of like wean yourself into jumping a bunch at that level I think that's why it's so hard to improve off one foot at least for myself because You're with two foot. I understand it well and you're balanced and you're pushing and you're stimulating so much Force and your body and then you kind of wait a couple of days and you slowly grow But one foot just takes longer because it's all that force on one leg. It needs so much time to adapt Yeah, I mean you're literally like doubling me Yeah, like I literally can't even jump off one foot for sessions because I just haven't done it in so long That like if I try to have one foot sessions I'll have to start it like 50% jumps for like a few months because yeah, like I'll just wreck my body if I try to do that Do you have any content goals? Whether it's a podcast. I see you got the podcast mic When did you get that mic by the way? I got this one. I was working with Isaiah. Oh, right when you guys You're like, yeah, yeah, so like I've had it for a while I've been thinking about doing a podcast the only thing my problem with podcast is I have so much stuff That I want to do other than a podcast in terms of like yeah I'm sent for my my members because like now I have my own thing, right? Like I have vertical blue Yeah, and I I literally just have this giant Google doc Which is like we pull up on my other screen that is just a list of just videos and like yeah That's and like teaching that I want to do I was gonna just say that I have the same list of Ideas and ideas and ideas and it's so satisfying when you come to one of those ideas that you finally found the time to do And it's just and it hits and then you're just like people don't even realize that that was like a three-month old idea Or a three-year-old idea. What's and you have to like yeah, that's what's crazy Like a lot of these ideas are things I've literally thought since the first day I started coaching people and I'm just like I'm finally like since I'm my boss now I get to decide what I do But that's actually been like a hard transition for me because I'm so used to doing like kind of what other People want me to do that. I'm like now. I'm really getting into what I want to do and yes And so now it's like you have an emotion or a mindset that you struggle with most I'll tell you mine to give an example mine has been patience It's been so hard to be patient for these things and really think long term because you want to do things now You want to jump on these ideas you want to dunk now, but I've gotten way better at it's been like a year of work But what's yours? I Think that mine would also be patience. I don't know how else I would describe this but like it's it's the sense of being like patient with myself In terms of not right at something as I want to be so like like with training Like I need to be patient and train because I know if I want to dunk Well like I need to keep training But then when I get like little gains and get close to like my peak again I start hitting new dunks again, and then I'm like I don't keep focusing on the training because I get so obsessed with the Dunking like it's it's the self-control aspect of like look like yes You can do this now, but if you want to get better you need to focus on that and like kind of Like that's my training side then with like the coaching and stuff It is I have to be patient with myself to get good at making that type of content because it's just not the content I've made I've always made it for other people not me like talking and making it myself So like I have to be patient with myself to like really like I just need to put things out there and like Understand that I will get better at it and I can just go back and redo things to improve them over time But that like it's more important for me to actually do something than to like sit and try and make something perfect the first time I guess there's so much Control and patience and doing it now because so many people like like I find myself doing that all the time is I want to Make the progress, but I forget that the progress is in these times where you're not the best So it's like it's it's weird moments of awareness like when I'm running or I'm doing this yoga or anything I'm training is like it's so it sucks when you don't even you don't even know if you're doing it, right? Or if it's even gonna build, but you have to do it to find out Yeah Yeah Yeah, any tips for dunk tip Tuesday dunk tip Tuesday Well, I guess my number one tip would be pay to stay patient.  Okay, so I'm gonna use my water as a thing so pretend you have this is really good Because it's exactly what you're talking about with being patient because a part of it Also, we see people doing dunks like when I see Kilgane and he's been posting lately those dunks I like I want to go try dunks, you know, but it's like it's so hard But if but if like he didn't post for a while people don't remember that he didn't post But now he's like doing crazy shit and you want to like do what he's doing But nobody wants to do the go away for two years in the lab.  And then if you take one bean and the bowls is represents life and life never stops moving It's just shaking if you put a bean from one bowl and on top of the walnuts, right? And the level of the bowl is kind of your circumstance in life where you're at in your journey You could say in dunk life at the top is the top everybody wants to be at the top, right? That's the peak you put the bean at the top of the walnuts and you shake the bowl of walnuts The bean will slowly make its way to the bottom and Vice-versus true as well if you take the walnut and put it to the top of the beans or put it at the bottom of the Beans the smaller beans and shake shake shake it'll slowly make its way to the top Because it's just bigger. So the point of that is the representation that you don't have to worry about where you're at If you want to be at the top grow yourself as big as you can and that means be the best you can be and then at The top of it you will be at the top no matter what it doesn't matter where you're at How much life shakes how many people are in front of you doesn't matter You will be at the top if you constantly just grow yourself and I love that concept You ever thought of that so like right now if you I feel like well, I want to make it with two freaking bowls I'm gonna I'm gonna literally do the experiment show it Because I don't want to like I want to just do it, but I have to get bowls. I gotta get beans. I gotta get nuts Gotta get nuts, but dude, I'm on this I haven't I don't know if I told you specifically, but I've mentioned my long-ass journey I'm on this hamstrings bug in two to three years now. Whatever that's been like three What's it? Yeah, so yoga dude. Yeah after that dunk camp But I did well and I actually hit my peak But then I couldn't go to them. This is where this is what I think people forget is I was jumping the best ever I hit I measured 42.5 at dunk camp and then I was jumping higher after that on the bum hamstrings I was just pushing through because I went through strength before dunking and I was translating all of that and it felt amazing But then I was good. I was at 43 44, but I'm like I don't want to stay here I wanted to go higher because I needed even more. I needed more power for my dribble dunks I needed more strength I needed everything, but I couldn't lift properly and I couldn't jump properly on that on those on my body that I had so it's been years of Figuring it out I'm all the way back down to yoga and it's so hard to even open my hips But I'm committing to that because if I open that up Open those hips up open that hamstring up and then gets strength and nose crevices with perfect technique with my lifting and my jumping Dude, and then I'm at 44 45 I'm pumped for that. So I have to but it's it's a long fucking journey Dude, that's that's crazy because like I'm kind of back in that same boat We're like I've had some like old injuries kind of like repop up lately And I know it's been from inconsistency and like and like trying to push myself too hard too quick Because like I see where I want to be But I I don't I didn't want to accept where I am right now in relation to like my entire gaming history So like I'm also like in that stage of like now I'm like building my base again and like working on staying more mobile because I've gotten tighter Like over the last year and like I used to be much more like mobile than I am now So I could like train differently than I do now and um Yeah, I'm just like rebuilding all my foundations to actually be able to push to the next level because like so what's your next goal?  I know you want to get healthy But what's your next jump and go my my next goal is to like actually measure a 40 nice Which plant so one foot right left Yeah, you know actually I I would like to have an above 40 need to like four of my plants But yeah, like I don't I don't see myself committing too much time to that One goal ahead a long time ago was be like to be the first person to do between the legs off of every single plant Like back to back to back so just like right left between the legs left left right Do we know anybody that can do that foot between the legs? I've never seen anyone do that. I've never seen footage of it You know who might be able to do it is Jordan. I was gonna say him and I was gonna say Isaiah because he's done the one foot, right? Yeah, but I don't think he can right right left other foot.  Yeah on one foot I know he can do it off of two really sides, but like that's wild You know, you know what there is I said this about Jay Clark I think Jay Clark might be the pinnacle of this But there's so many things like that and so many dunkers that are the dunkers dunker Where Jay Clark does things that blow all our minds that are at like High levels, but they don't really blow the public's mind Because they don't even know what he's doing because people Yeah, people have no like they have no that's what I'm saying like no concept of like what right? That's what I'm saying problem with Like don't contest or the biggest joke. Sorry. I was just thinking somebody was just talking to me about dunk contest Maybe it was in the group chat we had but we were talking about dunk contest where it's like really subjective and it needs to be like yeah, yeah Yeah, this is something I've been talking about since the first dunk camp I literally messaged Billy like the dunk like Dunk of Demo for people that don't know the night I got back from the thing like from dunk camp and I was like hey I thought of this system we could use and I talked to him and Jay Clark on the phone about it and like I Yeah, wait wait so it's so simple. Were you gonna say more? Sorry. I had something else. Oh Yeah, I was just gonna say that like like you hear all these people talk about dunk contest and stuff but like They just don't mean anything to me because the judges don't know anything about what is difficult Yeah, so I had this revelation recently. I at the judges.  It should be like the top dunkers You know, they're the only ones that really get it or people that have done it like T dub or Cador, you know Like I think that's what Cador is building which is amazing which everybody should follow Cador I'm gonna have him on soon, but This is one thing I realized as as we're talking subjectivity and whether it's like there's some skill to it where it's like You can measure the height of the rim whatever it's literally an art and we're trying to judge art with numbers And that's like yeah, go. Yeah Yeah, so like off of that. This is where I don't even like right I love competing and like it's it's fun But I'll never take it seriously because dunking is not yeah Dunking is an art and it is like literally just the personification We got a separate we got yeah, we got a separated. Sorry to cut you off in that beautiful statement But no you're the art the art should be something why I love dunk sessions, right? That should be art like it just lets it lets everyone do their own style They get to paint their own picture of who they are as a dunker and like that's really cool And and I think that that and all the positivity that gets around that is better than any of like the negativity surrounding Like who's the best and like what is it done? But you could also I still think there's an avenue where you could be the best Dunk competitor, you know what I'm saying? So like but I think there should be a separate thing like he's the best dunk artist almost and someone else is the best dunk competition Because when I think of like Chris Staples is like there's a skill in being so consistent No, right. So like there's something there Chris is literally like I was actually talking to someone about this yesterday But like Chris is like like obviously like in the goat race of like dunk Yes, people because he is won so many contests He's been doing it for so many years and like even now He's like still just insane and like he's not like super old But he is older and like remix is kind of the same. Yes remix won tons of contests He jumps super high, but he's like 37 and like it's insane, right? I'm trying to think of an analogy of that It's like It's like competing for the number specifically like who can be the most consistent who can do it first try But then who's the who's the most creative and who could like paint the best picture? I'm trying to think of the art world It's just different. It's just different things. Yeah, and when it comes to the like The contest like there is some objective like you did or did not win, right? And we can all agree that like, okay, like if you are a better dunk contest dunker if you want more contest I don't think anyone would like disagree with that But then when we start getting into the like topic of like who is the best dunker of all time I start to skew more towards the artistic side of things and less of the contest like wise because like like me like me personally, I think Jordan Kilganon is the best dunker of all time because Yes, he has the contest one But that doesn't matter as much to me is the fact that he has done more dunks that no one has ever done than anybody Okay, two questions for you Who's your so would you say Jordan's your favorite to watch like watch artistically as a dunker? I Would say from a creativity standpoint. Yes Okay, but there's also the stylistic standpoint. I think T Curry is my favorite. Hmm. Okay great answers Like T Curry has the best style. I think I've ever seen okay next question. Yeah, it's insane His arms I think his arms are on backwards or something or this is how he moves like he moves in like a super fluid way Like I don't know how to describe it past that. I know what you mean. It's very light It's very loose, but it's also powerful like it has he's got so much range in his arms And it's very it's very unique like it's not like catch it and standard It's very like what in the world like I consider myself not a super stiley dunker Like I have some dunks that I do well, but I'm more rigid and like I just don't have that style But like T Dub and Curry have this like fluidity to their dunking.  Yeah, I normally don't just like make and the other thing is the other thing about banging dunks Is the attempts to bang them because like some people are all about the trick not about the finish I'm more about the finish not just because that's how I dunk But I'm more about the finish than the trick for sure and I've never said that out loud, but I've always known that Yeah, like I rather someone I rather fucking miss a huge between the legs and like rattle it in Yeah, yeah, like I like try to go big if I'm gonna like yeah something I like I want to really make it and that's where something where like I've made 360 behind the back a bunch But I'm not satisfied because I haven't like just banged it before right like yeah And same thing with like like when I did the win off the wall the first time like I was happy I made it but I had to do it again recently because I needed to bang it right. It's just it's You gotta bang it I could sit all day and do power dunks and I just wouldn't mind like I used to jump high and do power dunks Like they feel great if I could do t-dub like without his insane tricks like his game dunks I I wouldn't I don't think I'd train I would just play if I could do what he does in a game Like the way he flies to hand out of the upes off the dribble just like drop step to I think I'd stop That's why I that's why I went on this long journey because I want to get to that point I don't care about I want I need to get that power. I need to be able to be in tune with my body Anyway, I'm gonna end it on this question Who or what inspires you most right now like recently right now? I would say that Jordan Doesn't have to be the Dunk world that could be anything in the world anything in the world anything in the world So Sutherland's good, but tell me about Sutherland's yeah, okay Well if we're talking about anything in the world not just like the Dunkers and stuff Yeah, I think the thing that's been inspiring me the most lately is the athletes I'm coaching so I'm not coaching bad athletes, but like Like seeing the athletes I do have and especially the ones who are like invested and like actually like talking to me And like trying to get better and seeing them get better that makes me want to get better Oh, yeah, like as an athlete and as a coach like it just I don't know that makes me really happy. So That's the best dude. Yeah But also Jordan They make me want to just get better too because like Jordan Sutherland has gone from like a freak to like a super freak and Jordan was like gone forever and now he's hitting new dunks that like I've never seen before and I just it makes me I have list of dunks that no one's ever done before and I need to get on it Yes, I was gonna say was that it's so awesome That when you inspire other people how much it inspires you and I think people forget that the energy you give the energy receive is just It's it's it's constant. It's the same stream You pick up the more the more energy you give out to people the more energy people are gonna give to you All right bar. Thank you for joining dunk tip Tuesday. Would you like to be back? I would love to be back. Give me a weird snippet that we could put at the end of this one the credits roll. 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