Hey guys, it's Nate, aka The Foot Accountant. Welcome back to the channel. Prices on the EAFC 24 market just continued to rise and it's all leaving us with one common question in our minds. Do we need to sell or can we still hold a lot of these cards that we have bought at either investments for our teams or investments just purely to make coins on as we know the market was going to appreciate so much over this last couple of days as it has? I want to break it down for you guys today because I think today, tomorrow, Thursday are very important days for the market as we head into a new promo and yes, the Nike promo is going to be ending. New players with the full worldwide release of FC24 are going to be coming on this game which could mean really good things for the market but could there be a bit of a dip before then? We'll talk about that in today's video. If you're excited for it, drop a thumbs up and of course subscribe if you are new. Now let's quickly go over yesterday's content as we always do. There's not much to go over guys so this will definitely be quick. First of all, we got a 78 plus SBC. We kind of called the rating on this one but what I was not expecting was that EA would only let us do it four times per day. They're really wanting to limit how many of these upgrade packs we can do. I was hoping that we could just, you know, unlimited repeatable like upgrade SBC's almost always are but instead we can only do it four times a day. It'll come back today. The requirements are eight gold cards which is, it just kind of is what it is. I don't feel like that's great. I feel like it's just mid and the pack weight from those albeit I did get a good poll yesterday. I got 84 rated Luis Diaz that went straight into my team from one of those upgrades. It just feels like that SBC is just kind of, I don't know, it feels very disappointing, right? I also packed Osom and yesterday, quick little team update, squad update for you guys that are watching. I put in Ake, he's a beast. I bought Zambo and Guisa, only tradable card on the team. Team's fun, right? Using the VVD to get the objectives done right now. And then Coman Nunez joining themselves on the bench here with Kelly and Cascarino. A very good set of super subs there. Also Trent in the midfield is really good, but I digress. Those 78 plus packs, they're not it. I'm going to do them just because, you know, it's an upgrade pack and it's fun to do and it's fun to try but they really do not seem that good to me guys. And if you don't have a lot of stuff in your club, it's maybe a skip, right? No upgrade packs. We love them, but they might be a skip just because of how, you know, eight players it takes to put in and the packway is not that amazing. Now we also got some new objectives yesterday. The Swoosh classics, which I actually just completed a little bit of and inside of this, you get some icon loans, which is actually kind of nice. I mean, I'm going to be tired of seeing a loan Dino subbed on in the first weekend league, which looks like it's going to be this upcoming weekend. This card is going to be everywhere, but EA basically just gave out icon Henri Dino, Scholes and Roberto Carlos yesterday through the Swoosh classics mode, which is pretty easy to get done just as you normally play games with your team if you have players from the certain nationalities in it. I'm not really stressing to get everything done except for the XP. Make sure you get the XP done, of course. The loan Dino would be kind of nice though. It's only out for a couple of days, so you kind of have to, you kind of have to get it done pretty soon if you do want to get it done. And then also working on the Mad Ready objectives as well, which we just got a Jumbo premium gold pack. Alright, nothing too crazy there. But yeah guys, yesterday's content was really quiet. Of course, the packs did refresh in the store. Nothing really crazy that was new in the store, but you know your 25K and whatever packs. We got an 80 plus double. Let's open these really quickly. One thing I did notice in the store yesterday as well was EA actually updated like the pack skin or the pack outline of some of the 175K pack and also the 275K pack. I don't know what that was about. It was very like green and dark before and now it's like very like gray, white and light. So it's the exact same packs that were there. EA just made them look different. So I'm not really sure what's going on with that, but it is what it is. We'll open these. Does that have Kailor Navas? Oh, we will take a cheeky Kailor Navas back at PSG 85 rated this year and I'll take that fodder. Oh, Wahee. There you go. I think it's a card that some people are evolving. There we go. We will take that one. I got a lone pack as well. And we'll quick sell that player. One more pack for the boys really quickly before we start talking about the market. Premium gold pack. Can we get anything here? My pack looks been kind of decent over these last two days. Is that Patrick Schick? Oh, an 83 rated out of a premium gold pack. You take those. You absolutely take those. That's actually a really solid pack for the low quality pack that it was. I digress again. Let us get into the market conversation because this is where it's getting interesting. Now, I've got a lot of cards on my transfer list. I am trading, investing, flipping a lot of cards at the moment. Yesterday was a absolutely insane time to be flipping cards specifically because the content was not that good, guys. And since we only got one SBC and one objective, this market movement that happened yesterday as we take a look at a couple of these cards specifically I want to look at Rolfo. This market movement is one that I want you to remember because it is one of the easiest ways to make coins on days where there is not a lot of content throughout the entire rest of this year. It happens a lot. Now, over the past couple of days we've been talking about selling your cards, heading into the content drop because we get supply every day and a lot of people have been doing that. Now, yesterday I think people were expecting something massive for whatever reason. Rolfo was 83,000 coins in the early hours yesterday on Monday and she went all the way back down to literally 68K at the content drop or about 30 minutes before the content drop. She went down to 68K. I was on stream. I think I bought three or four Rolfos at about 68 to 70,000 coins. She went skyrocketing back up as the content was not good, right? All we had was the objective and the SBCs four times for the upgrade so people were like, ah, this content's not good. So people went right back out to the market. Investors went to buy these cards that were down and people that just wanted to play the game as well alongside of those investors that wanted to just use the cards in game also went out to the market and bought those cards. Prices went skyrocketing back up. Now, some of them came back down after that. Like Rolfo went up to 80K. Actually like 82,000, 83,000 coins is right. So the couple of Rolfos there and now she went back down and it's kind of moving back up a little bit but still low-ish, right? For where her price was earlier in that day. But the reason I'm talking about this extensively, guys, is this is a market movement in a way that you can trade so many times throughout the year. Not always is it with gold cards but you'll see this where cards get low around content like Kunde was 187. He went down to 162 and boom. What is he right back up to now? 184, 186 with a couple of undercuts just in there. So prices have recovered on most cards pretty well from where those drops were at content because people were expecting stuff. Deani went to 190 from being 170 all the way to 190 back down to 176 and then is now back into the 180. So not a full recovery for Deani but for a lot of cards that was the movement yesterday. Prices dropped and then prices exploded later on because the content was not that good. Remember that because that's going to be a really good way to trade. Now oftentimes you have to buy the cards about 20, 30, 40 minutes before content. You can maybe wait until the actual content drop itself but a lot of times by then people who are willing to take the risk and say I don't think there's going to be good content today I'm going to buy the card before the content drop. They will be the ones that will get the best and lowest price because they're assuming a little bit more risk. So you can wait for the content drop and if it's bad then go out and buy a couple things that you think will rebound but that's just something I wanted to point out that's going to happen a lot throughout this year and I was able to make some coins and us that were in the stream were able to make some coins because of that. Now the big question on hand right and we saw some just as we looked at with Rolfo and you know even some of the just most meta players and players that people are just buying right now in this game which does include a lot of the women's cards. You see these prices that are spiking so much just because there's so much hype around these women's items in the game because they're just, we're finding that they're really meta especially in certain areas of the pitch. Guys are our prices on this market reaching a peak? Are we reaching a point where prices are kind of at their top range for right now for the next week or two or three and that's a really tough question to answer with like a one sentence answer because there are so many factors for so many different cards throughout this entire game but what I want to do is try to give it a best my best shot at answering this question for a lot of you guys because so many of you are wondering Nate, I have Neymar right? I bought Neymar on Saturday for 250K and he's 400,000 coins. Do I keep him or do I sell him? Or some of you guys are also asking like Nate, I just packed Oshawa who's exploded in price in these past couple of days and I'm not going to use her in my team but should I wait to sell her because is her price going to go up more? You know I feel like there's a lot of different answers and it kind of just has to be it's really a decision that you have to make honestly when we look at a lot of these cards it is a decision that you have to make personally because you know your ultimate team you know what you've got in it you know what players you've got you know how many coins you have got to reset the game because the market and the menus just glitched to me again so let's load back into FC24 but it's really a personal question now let's talk about this cards that I would keep right now a lot of those top tier meta cards like I just mentioned Neymar right? Neymar is a card that I would 100% I think hold on to because number one Vinny who is another Brazilian left wing that is in his position I know Vinny's got the better links because he's in Real Madrid and Neymar is in Saudi but Vinny's like 1.1 million coins and Neymar is 400k that's a big price difference between those two guys I still think Neymar has room to rise as one of the most top tier elite meta players on this game as he always is I still think players like Rafael Leao I still think players like Hyunmin Son and other players that honestly seem a little cheap to me and Kuku still like there's some cards in the market guys that still to me seem a little undervalued now there's some that also seem a bit overvalued like that Vinny card I think Vinny shouldn't be that expensive I don't even think Mbappe should be as expensive as he is he's 3.3 mil for Mbappe like we're still in an early stage of the market where yes not everybody's on the game yet and yes also maybe not all the supply has hit the game yet because we've had a lot of people open FIFA points that have been on the game but there's going to be a whole lot more that are getting on the game this weekend and into the next week that are going to be opening FIFA points and opening packs now it's tough to decipher who is really overpriced and who is really underpriced we're just using our best guesses here but there's some players on both sides of that coin now for a lot of these top tier meta cards that are kind of the best in their position for their league guys that we've been saying to keep and to hold onto I think a lot of those guys are still a hold for most of you guys unless you're packing a card if I pack a card tradable with coins I almost always take the coins unless it's a really big player that goes straight into my team that I don't plan on selling for a long time I just like to have the coins and I run mostly an untradable team anyways but for a lot of you guys I know your position you bought these guys when they were a lot cheaper right you bought Usman when he was 200k and I was 300,000 coins so in that case would I be holding yeah I think I would especially if it's a card that is in your squad and in your team it's all about the balance right we're all playing rivals right now we're grinding to get rewards to get qualified for the weekend league if possible right because it says still in here that weekend league is going to happen this Friday now it would be the earliest weekend league ever watch this date right here champs finals available in 3 days 3 hours watch that very closely if that changes that'll change a little bit for the market as well with how much demand we have this weekend on this game but there's still a lot of demand for gameplay guys and there's still a lot of cards that I think are going to appreciate in value which is meaning why I would say hold for a lot of those top tier still very meta cards now our price is just going to continue to go straight up like they have been for the next 3 to 4 days in this game I don't think I can say yes to that I think there will be actually be a few prices that drop off in the coming days like from now until Friday some people are going to see how high the market is and they might start to sell a few cards and the reasoning for that is we do have a road to the knockouts promo that is coming this Friday and that means live cards that means a lot of excitement a lot of hype and yes of course it also is the worldwide release there's going to be a lot of people coming on opening fever points yeah yeah yeah road to the knockouts is a big promo every year because it has live cards and because the champions league is like the biggest competition that people get excited for so I think there actually will be some prices that maybe hit their peak for this week maybe today maybe it was yesterday maybe it's tomorrow and Wednesday and then maybe Wednesday, Thursday at some point later on as we get towards this promo Friday I actually think we could see a few prices dip and what I mean by that is like let's say Osman is like what 66k right now and let's say he goes to like 70 maybe 75k at some point this week and then his price starts to dip a little bit like when I'm talking to dip I'm talking like nowhere even close to where these cards were before they started to spike in value like if you got in early on Deanna you're buying a card that was 100,000 coins a low 100k range or less and now she's 180k like she's probably not going to go back below like 150 or 160 like that's that kind of dip is what I'm saying like a small 5% dip max for a lot of these cards maybe 10% max it's going to depend on the card obviously but that's the top tier meta right we're talking guys like Kvica Rashford the Neymar the Messi KDB Millie Tau Rudeger all of your cards that are really meta expensive high rated that a lot of people don't have in their teams right now that they will still be looking to upgrade for into next week I think those are still holds because a lot of you are making coins in them anyway and their prices still could go up further next week after we get more coins and more people on the game that will be wanting to buy those cards maybe this week there's a slight dip but I think overall those are a hold because their prices are going to keep going up now that's a lot of cards that you would want to keep let's talk about cards you want to sell we use this guy as an example during the early stage of the game because we knew that this was going to happen but it's Mickey Vandevin guys a starter card at best yes he's a good center back I'm sure he's great in game you know what I don't even know I didn't even pack this guy like I'm kind of surprised maybe he is kind of rare but he's 78 rated so he can't be that rare guys watch out for Vandevin because this is a card like we've mentioned that is a sell his price isn't one that's gone up a ton since he first came out his price has been pretty steady actually right around 17, 18, 19,000 coins just because this is a card that a lot of people are putting into their starter teams and I think that after a lot more people get on the game this weekend and people open more packs more coins are going to be on the market people are going to forget about a guy like Vandevin and they're going to be going and upgrading to a guy like Irofia Laia or maybe they're going to be able to afford a Virgil Van Dyke with the coins that they have so a card like that Vandevin is definitely going to fall off in value a considerable amount in the next week and I want you to be ahead of the curve that's a card that I would sell that's a benefit to opening packs right now in this game as well if you're opening packs at all during this weekend or if you're taking tradable rewards from rivals which we'll talk about rivals rewards definitely a bit more in the coming days taking those tradable rewards right now still pays out or even opening FIFA point packs right now still pays out because cards like Gavardiol that 29,000, 30,000 coins he's probably not going to stay too much more than 30K for the next two or three weeks after this he's going to start to trickle down in value cards like the Vandevin that we just mentioned you know even cards like Renato such a hype card but how much is he? 14K guys like Renato's actually just gone down since he's been in packs he started at 20K and now he's 14,000 coins that's a card I would sell as well just because he's going to get passed up on Allen St. Maximon 20,000 coins as well he's up a little bit but you know not as great of links yes still a lot of hype because it's ASM but just be careful with those types of cards those are the ones that I would still put in the sell bucket because they're going to be dropping off here soon now a couple more cards that I would keep hold on to you know guys I'll say a little bit of a differentiation here as well I wouldn't really right now say now's a great time to invest either I know that some cards are really going up a lot like the heroes and the icons specifically are just flying on this game and that's because we've got coins in this game and people are putting those coins into these cards that are probably worth more than what they have been in the last couple of days on this market but I'm not looking at a lot of these cards and saying you got to go buy them because they're still too cheap nah that's not how I feel for most of them a couple of them I do feel like are still a little bit undervalued but these are more so of a hold and if you want to invest in a hero or an icon or any of these gold cards that we're still talking about and you haven't bought yet I would probably say watch the market this weekend because yes there's going to be a lot of people that are getting on to the game there's also going to be a lot of packs open at the exact same time and that's going to bring in some supply so these heroes are going to get supplied icons are going to get supplied from promo packs to self coming weekend so that's where I would be watching if you want to buy one of these cards keep an eye on Friday specifically and maybe even the panic selling as we head into Friday if there is any for a buying opportunity on cards of this nature or even those top tier gold cards that we're kind of shouting out and mentioning as well like the Mbappe the Vinny Jr. stuff like that if you want to buy one of those for your team so that's kind of what I'm talking about right now with the market is I expect to see some dips right and it may not be Wednesday it may just be Friday morning before the new promo if we get a loading screen on Wednesday that could cause a little bit of a dip in price as well but again let me reinforce the fact that like I'm not worrying about it at all I still have I mean honestly I don't know how many coins I have at the moment but I have a lot of investments I've got still a lot of guru retens I'm doing some lazy list things with a bunch of different meta cards I still have cascarinos that I invested in I still have I think I still have a Rolfo I bought a couple of Ronaldo's just like an hour ago because I feel like he's undervalued with his power shot play style he's essentially so overpowered he's a card that hasn't gone up that much I think he could still rise a bit more today that sort of thing I'm still invested I'm still trading I just think that you may not see the market continue to skyrocket every single day starting today maybe even tomorrow through the rest of this week because of what is coming ahead and maybe some people will start to know that and say you know what I think it's just time for me to take some of the coins and the cards that I bought but that's a decision that's kind of completely up to you so you kind of have to make it on your own do you value the most having the card in your team that can maybe get you some better outcomes in division rivals as you're grinding the gameplay moving up getting XP getting those packs do you value that more or do you value your coins a bit more it's just kind of a decision you have to make and it's completely up to you but hopefully I explain that pretty well because there's a lot in there and hopefully that helps you guys out a little bit now I will say as well today's content on Tuesday is it going to be another day interactive or fun or exciting and it's going to be another L day of content and then prices are maybe going to dip and then go back up afterwards there could be some sort of movements on the market like that today also could EA actually go crazy today and drop another player SPC I hope we get another player of the month if they drop the player of the month Madison like we said in yesterday's video give us the player of the month Jude Bellingham that would shake up the market a little bit that would be an SPC plus one I mean James Madison got a decent upgrade over his base gold card I think he had a plus two right he's an 86 but Jude Bellingham I would have to imagine I would hope they would give him an 88 but it would probably just be an 87 because you know I'm sure EA has grand plans of giving Jude a inform or whatever it may be special promo cards here pretty soon because that's a pack seller for sure for them but if they're going to give us a player of the month Jude Bellingham I hope it is halfway decent value last year we had a Fede Valverde for La Liga we mentioned this as well already but that card was crazy man and so many people did it and it rocked the market it actually made the market go bananas when that was released so that's a potential another player SPC today could be in the works but other than that I have no idea could be another pack SPC as well we haven't had one of those like yesterday was a really really quiet day we'll see what they go ahead and do one other thing I do want to point out really quick to you guys is EA is tweeting about some of their first issues and there were two tweets yesterday the first one this is actually really interesting we are investigating an issue impacting Ada Hegerberg player item players who have this item in their active squad will not be able to start a match until the item is removed and I had no idea there was a problem with her item in game and some of you guys were mentioning that this player in game Hegerberg she would like instead of running towards the ball and you know how players kind of like lock onto the ball when the pass is made to them it's like she would intentionally run around and away from the ball and I wonder if that was affecting her price guys because her price barely went up at all and I know she's not the most meta appearing card she has great positioning and finishing and really good like reactions and stuff like that but she's definitely more of a physical type striker with 92 heading accuracy not the most meta for dribbling which a lot of people are looking for in this game but evidently right now you can't use her in game and there was a problem with her card which has to be one of the most crazy things I've ever seen EA tweet about that was kind of a first where one individual player item has an issue and it's impacting that only that one player item in the game like that's yeah we've had individual player item issues before but from the way that I'm hearing about this it almost makes me want to try the card because it sounds so interesting now also content today and market movements to watch out for today really quickly just to end as once again twice in one YouTube video my EAFC has crashed and I'm reloading it again these menus I'm telling you man team league predictions Footman put out team league predictions yesterday and as we talked about some investing methods are taking place and you're seeing a lot of prices move this would be a banging team of the week Harry Kane Hyunmin Son, Cancelo, Hakimi Mitoma, Taliska Moses like Simon these are incredible team league cards I hope this is the team of the week now of course it is a prediction and we'll probably start to get some leaks maybe late today on Tuesday probably tomorrow morning on Wednesday of who's going to be in the team of the week but of course a lot of your prices on this market are up a lot as well Hakimi wasn't up that much until he started to get into those team league predictions he went from 79k all the way to 92,000 coins and you're just seeing a lot of prices rising right now because of that so be careful with those again guys if you have any of them the safe route always is to sell into the hype especially for a guy like Hakimi or Cancelo which I feel like it's a bit more difficult for in-forms to be given to defenders Cancelo was like 52k and he was 29 on Saturday right so maybe you sell it on the hype with those unless you're really holding out for a potential in-form and then the card price could go up a bit more but that is what I would do with those cards in this game right now and guys continue to work to market if you missed yesterday's video make sure you check it out we looked at a bunch of trading methods that are very relevant for right now one of them I mentioned in the video I'm doing right now as you saw I sold this Kamovinga right for 10,750 11,000 coins I've sold 3 Kamovingas today for that price but if you go and take a look Kamovinga on the market what is his actual price it is not 10, 11,000 coins it is 9k guys the lazy selling it works you have to be there to release your cards every hour but it is a really really good method and Kamovinga I've had really good success with it on so that's a tip for you if you want to try it it's not really a trading method that a lot of people can like ruin either like you just buy one or two list them up for a couple hours like boom 8,800 with a shadow I missed that one but that one probably would have sold pretty easily at 11,000 coins over a couple hours of relisting because of the Kamovinga style that was on it so make sure you check out that video if you did not but hopefully today EA have something playing for us right drop us another player as BCEA you've been kind with the requirements for the most part so far during early access do it again that's what I'm asking for today if you enjoyed the video today guys drop a thumbs up on a comment down below if you have any questions and of course subscribe if you're new it's been Nathan Wood Count and see you guys in a Twitch stream today links in the bio if you want to check us out there peace out


It's time for the Laun Jean Chronoscope a television journal of the important issues of the hour a presentation of the Laun Jean Wittner watch company maker of Laun Jean the world's most honored watch and Wittner distinguished companion to the world honored Laun Jean Good evening. This is Frank Knight. May I introduce our co-editors for this edition of the Laun Jean Chronoscope? Larry Lesser CBS News Correspondent and Thomas J. Halton chief United Nations correspondent for the New York Times Our distinguished guest for this evening is Krishna Mennon chairman of the Indian delegation to the United Nations You know, it's almost an unwritten law that unless a diplomat represents one of the big four powers He cannot achieve a position of world influence and significance But our guest tonight has proved the exception to the rule when mr. Krishna Mennon speaks the world now listens Mr. Mennon to be fair to you Frank you have disagreed with our foreign policy rather often publicly and some people do say that you are Unfriendly to this country is that true? We have disagreed and I say I have disagreed I have expressed the opinions of my country and my government on specific matters that come up for discussion And I should have thought and I do think that the American people will be the first to recognize That honest opinions properly expressed courtesy and Canada our science of friendship I Have the good fortune to have large numbers of Americans as friends I know you do Mr. And you think that our country in its foreign policy has ever been Unfriendly or unjust to to your country. We have never questioned the motives of this country and we don't know country should or does in fact Sit down and write a dissertation on another country's foreign policy When any particular act of yours has any impact on someone else that someone else says something And that's all there is to it. I think there is a lot of exaggeration or misstatement about difficulties or relationships between India and the United States on the other hand with I think we are two friendly countries The honest difference opinion on certain matters the great deal of agreement on others How do you feel about the latest matter that's come before the assembly of mr. That's the affair of the 11 American aviators who are still held prisoners by the Chinese coming Yeah, I'm surprised that a very accurate reporter Column writer like this Thomas Thomas Hamilton should think that's come before the assembly. It hasn't come yet And it comes you deal with it well since India did perform vital services in the Korean War as medical troops and also very vital services after the war in Securing and helping secure the release of the prisoners of war mr. Menon How do you regard the fact that the Chinese are holding a belligerence from that war and apparent defiance of the armistice terms? We don't know we don't know the facts of this matter in any way apart from what is matters of public knowledge We so far I'm aware. We have not been asked by anybody To intervene in this matter or take an interest in it. We have naturally as one in every country and every human being must have an Interest in a problem where there are prisoners detained in another country now you ask me about the commission the commissioners these to exist and Our interests our responsibilities in that matter are the same as everybody else's except of course that we want to see Any point of conflict between countries removed whether it's with us or anybody else Yes, and this might possibly be a point of a rather deep conflict between The Communist China and the United States well mr. Menon if I may say so you have avoided in the past Your country has criticism of red China and Some people do feel that since you're not with us therefore you must be against us Is this a correct assessment of your position? No, we are not against anybody as I said that we have very very good relations with this country And we do not regard good relations with you as exclusive or good relations with others And that's perhaps it's not quite well understood. There is no reason why good relations with one country should exclude good relations another Unless you're partisans, and we are not partisans Mr. Menon, I think it's only fair to say that People have the feeling that the so-called neutrality of Asia and India actually means that These countries are sitting on a fence waiting to join the camp of which of either side Which proves to be the strongest protector now and therefore we think that every inch we sacrifice to communism or surrender to communism is actually Influencing your future decision now is this true? I Don't know who thinks so we don't and we never call ours as neutral In fact the term neutrality has significance only in conditions of war What we are how we have we are an independent sovereign nation entitled to make its decisions on every issue As as we think best in our interests and the interests of other people What we may not do is to question other people's motives of people whom we have no Recent to question it or Introduce any bitterness or anger into controversy We must keep our differences honest And within the limits of necessity, and that's what we try to do. You may fail, but that's what we try to do I want a specific point Mr. Christian a minute. You are quite active at the Geneva conference and I think trying to Pass on the points of view of the different sides delegates so on Looking back on the on the Geneva conference in particularly the Settlement of end of China. Do you think it was a good settlement? I think so I think it was a not only the real question is not Whether it was a good settlement I think it was a good settlement, but the settlement itself was a good thing to achieve We have for the first time a situation where there is no major war going on The Indochina is business as you know is in its origin a colonial Issue and it now enables the peoples of Indochina to establish governments and I have no doubt at all that will settle down Provided the terms of settlement are carried out and I have no reason to think they wouldn't be carried out Do you have any reason for it for concern over the possibility that the Chinese communists might use of Infiltration against the governments of Laos and Cambodia in southern Vietnam. I Have no evidence of it. There are communists no doubt in all these in all these areas Indigenous inhabitants of communists, but I have no reason to think that there will be any infiltration from outside And the honest disagreement provides for the supervision And they're being carried out Well, your government is not a party to the Southeast Asia Pact Could you give me your feelings as to whether the Southeast Asia Pact will help stabilize the situation in Southeast Asia? We do not think so if you thought it would help to stabilize the situation Southeast Asia You would have accepted the invitation to join it well Mr. Krishnamenanda if Mr. Nehru's plans come to fruition Do you envisage a world in which there are really three worlds if we may put it that way a So-called Western world a communist world and a so-called neutral world with view as sort of a buffer. I hope not I think there's a very wrong way of looking at it This is what is usually called the third block or third force theories But we're we do not believe that this division of the world into camps this kind is a good thing For stability and peace and the fortunes of all of us if we think that and we therefore do not like two blocks How would we help by forming a third block rule only add to the confusion? Well, in other words, you think there should be one world just one block No, I think that in the present state of our civilization there should be independent sovereign nations Respecting each other living and letting live tolerating each other and and and trying to resolve such differences there are and would be by negotiation argument and Then they won't come into as major differences. But isn't it true, Mr. Mannon? It's sadly enough The dynamics of the world prove that very often nations which Ask for the respect of other nations are gobbled up by aggressors And so people do form blocks for protection. Now first of all, Mr. Nehru There is a limit to the usefulness of the past because if your argument were true Then you would have to agree that all history has been written. We are the architects of history. We make it Therefore we can't say it has been so therefore it will be so Mr. Krishnamen and I've heard it said that since India's constitution I understand is very much like the constitution in the United States that certain conclusions might be drawn about India's Newly won independence from the independence of the United States in its early years. Do you see any? counterpart in our early history and your present state of development To put our history right When the Indian constitution was made It drew on the experience of practically all countries that have constitutions But our constitution is fundamentally different from the Constitution of the United States Because we have a parliamentary system of government. It is more like the Anglo-Saxon and the British system of government Were we even executive that's responsible to legislature and is part of that legislature? It is true that there are certain parts of it. For example, the chapter on fundamental rights Is perhaps has a as a relation to proximity to your bill of rights your your your your cause on rights but The rest of it is Is made up of the experience of various countries and our own role. We also had a Constitution though not a perfect Parliament and The desires and the genius of our people Mr. Krishnamen and I must say that some people here wonder why India seems so severe to its own indigenous communists and relatively so polite to Four or international communists why is that so well you get that picture because you have certain Premises your certain assumptions. What we do is we try to run a country on on the basis of the rule of law and Those who break the law come under the rigors of the law That is to say it goes beyond a certain limit. We have no objection our country for anybody holding any opinion You know objection to the forming political parties, you know objection from any political party standing for Parliament but if that party tries to practice violence Breaks the law then it comes under the under the rigors of the law We have a parliamentary opposition, which is very different from that of the governing party And I suppose that would hold true an international We're all too anyone who breaks the law you would well so far as we're concerned. We do not want anybody to interfere in our country and Respective of what their what their private political thinking is and Any interference or encroachment upon our liberties would meet with our hostility. How far we can resist it depends upon our strength But the real issue is further interference with us You will thank you very much. Mr. Christian man has been a great pleasure to have here tonight. 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Great, welcome to the last news. My name is Rob and today we've just got a couple of things to go over and because it's Sunday And I want to take too much people's times But there's something coming across the desk where we took a look at what could potentially Make Celsius investors whole it's an interesting idea and I'm behind it But there's a couple of catches and we'll go over all those things and then lastly are next to last Tip of the hat over to tokenomics as they bring forth web 3 and NFTs real utility I gotta tell you it was a pretty good idea And I just want to talk about it real quick and then lastly we'll do a little Q&A But before we get into all that I just want to make mention of one important probably the most important thing for today Never forget This is September 11th. I know a lot of people don't talk about as much You don't hear it on the news. It's certainly as hell. We're not gonna hear too much about on YouTube But it is what it is. Don't ever forget this day and exactly what happened. And I just want to say A moment of silence for all those people those poor people that lost their lives on on the airlines That flew into the towers the people in the towers the brave men and women who rushed in to save those people as The buildings were were collapsing also the health and different problems that they have moving forward As they were battling on ground zero and then all the brave servicemen and women who lost their lives in the war And where did it get us? So there are things though That we can take from it and it's not a very It it's it's important that we look back and see what exactly happened I'm not gonna go too much into it, but it's about the mentality and I know that a lot of a lot of us in the space We've taken a lot of heat Especially the Celsius and Voyager investors crypto investors and investors around around the world however It's the mentality and there are certain aspects that you can take from this and just think to yourself Is this really the worst thing that's happened to me? I mean, yes, we've all lost You know for our positions and things like that. We've all lost a different amount of crypto And some people have lost their entire life savings. However, it is the mentality that pushes us forward I know these are the tough times but these are the ones where millionaires are made and I want you to just to think about this as I play this little Sniffin, it's about 20 seconds long Think about how bad things are for you and how you control it only deal with the things that you control and and Get rid of all the things that you cannot control and it really comes down to again How you can actually deal with things and to bring this point home There is an audio clip and this is from Brian David Sweeney. It's nothing that is Too provocative or are too out there, but I want you to listen to this gentleman's voice as He is on the flight 175 20 seconds how calm he is How he knows where things are going and how he handles it and I and I want you to remember this when you're thinking about Oh, man, I'm 10% down. I'm 20% down my portfolio or where this happened. Just listen to this And this is him well first of all, here's his wife. She was a good interview links in the description. You can watch the whole thing This is gentlemen right here Stout guy very calm and in the face of all these different things This is when you know Heroism or our courage is actually revealed So I know that there are some different problems that are going on and maybe your life or a lot of people's lives around you Just remember it's all about how you deal with the things that are going on. All right, so that Was the piece for just a little mentality and moment of silence now, let's get into it Making Celsius investors whole I got to tell you this one When I was taking a look at it It did make a lot of sense and this was a it was a tweet The people who are organizing around the Celsius official committee Unsecured creditors and it makes a lot of sense about here what's going on So what they're gonna do is they're gonna give an opinion of where things could go and when I took a look at I'm like, this doesn't make a lot of sense There's a couple of catches. There's some things that I definitely would not agree on But if you like what you see here What I would like you to do is use the Twitter handle for the Celsius official committee of Unsecured creditors was the one that are supposedly fighting for us and talk to them and send out a tweet to them and say this looks like An a viable option. So let me blow this up real quick And they stop my screen share my tab To actually hear it This is about two minutes in length listen to this I think it can go a long way You'll have the option to sell your equity on a secondary market or huddle Hey, you see see listen up We've created a rock star restructuring plan to make Celsius depositors whole we believe the Bitcoin mining business Is the company's most tangible asset and the best way to fill the hole in Celsius's balance sheet? Let's break it down. We want to provide equity to customers for their missing funds and crypto More specifically, we want to give 51 percent of Celsius mining LLC to creditors in the form of paper equity with plans ongoing public in the next full market for example, if you had $100,000 on the platform at the time of bankruptcy and Celsius had a 30% hole in its balance sheet That means $30,000 is the amount of funds you're missing and therefore the equivalent amount of equity You'll receive in the Bitcoin mining business The rest of your funds in this example 70% would be returned to you and fellow creditors with a time lock on withdrawals to prevent another bank run You'll have the option to sell your equity on a secondary market or huddle that equity Until a potential liquidity event like an IPO Why is this great for creditors like you and I Bitcoin mining competitors riot and Mara? Did 100x gains on their prices in the last cycle instead of selling your crypto at the bottom of the bear market? You'll instead have equity in a Bitcoin mining company with potential for great returns So what are the next steps? Celsius mining LLC to become its own separate standalone entity complete the mining facility build out and be profitable by quarter one 2023 IPO during the next full market Approximately 2025 and get listed on the Nasdaq for more detailed information There you go. So there's a couple things to break down there and of course there is always a catch, right? We can take a look at that and go well, that sounds pretty good But then there is a whole thing about waiting and then for me when I when I thought about I go Well, I'm gonna be here for the long haul anyhow. So what's the point? So I could see where this is going again This is not financial advice. This is just I'm not a financial advisor and I can't tell you what to do But as far as like making people whole there's always gonna be Reasons and options, but I think this would be just the long haul over. There's a couple of things first of all why 51% Let's be honest. Did you or I? Didn't we front the whole bill? Didn't we take all the risk? So why are we getting 51%? No, that's not gonna happen So it's got to be at least 75 80% if not 90% or more to get into this because When we came through it wasn't like oh you guys had the risk. No, no It was all of us that took the risk. So if we're gonna go through with that plan You better believe it's gonna be more skewed to my side and then the next part was Then it talked about how it would have to be a whole new server company. Well, absolutely Can you imagine that these clowns who were running Celsius to actually be a part of this? No There's no there's not a snowball chance in hell that could actually happen So if we take a look at that so it has to be a separate entity It has to be run by somebody else and that makes a lot of sense And if anybody has any doubts about you know, well, maybe they just had a bad day There's a great article Dirty bubble media a length in the description It's called Moshinsky's flywheel and uh right there is a little Bernie Madoff head good for them Very long. I'm just gonna paraphrase for it real quick The Vermont department of financial regulation filed a motion in Celsius now works chapter 11 case encouraging the appointment Of a bankruptcy examiner exerting that Celsius had admitted at the 341 meaning that the company had never earned enough revenue To support the yields being paid to investors This shows a high level of financial mismanagement And also suggests that at least at some points in time yields to existing investors were probably being paid with the assets of new investors that would be A Ponzi and it says if this claim is true That's the definition of a Ponzi scheme So no, I do not allow anybody from Celsius anybody from Celsius who was a part of that To go forward because they knew exactly what's going on. Here's the thing We run to the assumption that things were on the up and up We run to the assumption that things were going just fine. Maybe there's a little bit of hiccups here and there But we we rush it out now as time went on We realized that Celsius was working until it didn't and hopefully we got out as fast as we can I still have some of my funds stuck on there. I'm sure some of you as well did too So for this plan that we just took a look at over here to actually go through it cannot In any way shape or form have anybody who was a part of Celsius network Anybody and then also as far as the uh, there was a little part there Where it said if there's a hole in the balance sheets and uh, you know 30% or 70% will be returned to the the users. I don't know if that's Even legitimate to go through this is the actual hole in In the uh, Celsius liabilities and assets uh for their for their profit and losses And you can find I link this also in the description. So here's the liabilities And this is in millions. So user liabilities four billion 720 million Celsius liabilities, custody and other so the total liability is 5.5 billion. And here's what they have on hand Here's the assets Bank cash crypto assets. Okay loans. Hopefully I don't know I was gonna get paid back Uh, allowance for doubtful accounts. That doesn't sound good net loans assets mining assets 720 million That's a big big number. I think that's what they're what they're banking on It's the assets the miners or for the actual rigs that they're using not the actual bitcoin that's producing right now It's not doing too much because they're only halfway at capacity custody assets sell so another total assets is 4.3. So there's a hole And this was uh, this was as of july 13th It may there may be some updated information, but you're looking at about a billion Hole somewhere and that's a big hole to make up. And then of course if we take a look Here was a document filed on august 2nd For the baseline liquidity, which what they have right now and again, this is in millions The baseline liquidity on what they say Right now roughly 111 million. And then of course is operating expenses go down Legal fees and everything else the longer this drags on folks the more the less money they're gonna have and then 9th of september 107 million 101 million going down to 30th of september, let's just go to the top 25th of november They're saying that they'll still have some money left to actually go through with different things 42 million But again 111 million to 42 million. That's not gonna crush us. What's gonna crush us is if this drags out so Let your voice be heard Tell people what you think should be a good one And you know what the best way to do that is to sound off on the celsius official committee of unsecured creditors And tell them what you think there's a bad idea. This is a good idea. It's it's up to you put that into your hand So let me know what you think about that also in the comments Let's move on To our last piece. Oh, it's pretty good Uh The embolina and token metrics I gotta tell you they did a pretty good thing. This is what happened. Um So I had Ian on the show on august 11 2022 and he was talking about astro bot Society nft and I'm like, yeah, man. Sure. Come on. It sounds pretty good But um, what they did was pretty interesting and they did this only you can do this right now It's already meant to it's already done But I just want to say it was a good idea and what they did was and there's a live stream You can watch with Ian how it all went down What they allowed you to do was Let me just click on pricing instead of paying because Right now it's token metrics. It's an ai driven platform Research and really good stuff good.  That's the old system That's just the way that we're used to things right makes a lot of sense. That's what every Website does is an existence pretty much but what they did And you can watch the video here is you were able to mint one of their nfts this astro bot society and it was To mint it it was 0.4 ethereum But what it did it gave you lifetime access To the token metrics platform on different tiers And what was great about that I thought it was pretty good because you get lifetime access and everything's good You know it's a key paying right, but what I thought was really cool about it It was two things first of all if at some point you're just like I don't really like this You know this isn't for me. I want to go to crypto or I've gotten all the information I have or I just didn't really get into it whatever The great thing is is that your membership you can sell it to somebody else Where else can you do that like in any website that you've ever been to Where you're like, oh, I'd like to not be a member sure stop paying and you're not a member But you can't take the equity That you've built into the membership of any kind of these websites And then put them on open see or something like that and then sell your lifetime membership And here you can't I thought that was pretty cool how how they did that now some people say, ah, it's not that gray What else is it still I to me?  I thought there was dumb honestly Uh as far as like the utility but for that nft I get it And here's a great example of things that could be done and right here You can see like transferable tickets and passes domains in your names, which kind of like what it is But a digital id tickets Uh proof of it proof of where is this at proof of achievement and skills your profile crowd funding Wouldn't that be great for all the canadian truck drivers? Intellectual property Real estates counterfeit protection financial nfts music rights emails. That's a good one emails and messages We talked about this before But it just goes on and on So the thing you have to ask yourself is this is which platform is it going to be built on because You know for nfts, is it going to all going to be ethereum with those fees? I don't know or maybe some other type of layer one solution But uh, that's for you to decide and that's why I actually Dollar cost average into a lot of different layer one solutions and that's it for today So look that takes care of today in the news 17 minutes Not too bad a little bit longer. I thought it was going to be but that's it If you got to get out of here and go watch football I'm with you But uh, if you want to stick around for a little q&a, let's do that real quick I'll answer all your questions the best of my abilities and let's start that right now, huh?


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Happy Sabbath church, happy Sabbath children, happy Sabbath children, how many of you remember what we learnt about last Sabbath lately, the law of God and who told this story? Josiah and teacher Feliz. Josiah and teacher Feliz, thank you very much. This Sabbath church, the story will be told by Cradle B, courtesy of teacher James Sharon and Skylar. So today is a continuation of last Sabbath which was a fundamental belief number 19. Say number 19. Number 19 which is the law of God. So before we start I'll invite Skylar to pray. Skylar please pray for us. Amen. Thank you very much Skylar. So children, I would like us to turn to our bibles to the book of Psalms chapter 19 verse 7. Psalms 19 verse 7. Teacher James do you want to read for us? And it says the law of the Lord is perfect. Converting the soul, the testimony of the Lord is sure making wise the simple. Children, do you know about a man called Samson? Skylar do you know about Samson? What is about Samson? What about him? Strong. Samson was began. Who else do you know is strong? Who else do you know who is strong? Liar. Who else? The boy. A boy? Yeah, a boy is a strong. I was waiting for you to say daddy. Daddy is a strong. Your daddy is strong. Who else is strong? Goliath. Goliath. Guys, these kids are three and they know Goliath and their daddy is a strong. So we will sing. My God is so big, so strong and so mighty. There's nothing my God cannot do for you. I can't hear you church. My God is so big, so strong and so mighty. There's nothing my God cannot do for you. The mountains are, the rivers are, the stars are handiwork too. Let's teach the chart cradle B. My God is so big, so strong and so mighty. There's nothing my God cannot do for you. My God is so big, so strong and so mighty. There's nothing my God cannot do for you. The mountains are, the rivers are, the stars are handiwork too. My God is so big, so strong and so mighty. There's nothing my God cannot do for you. So tisha James, please tell us about the strongest man called Samson and what God did for the strongest man. Thank you. Good morning again children. Good morning parents. Now there's something which teacher Sharon did not say. Samson was the strongest man and he was also there. Weakest man. It's a paradox. It's called a paradox. Two sides of a coin. So Samson was strong. When was he strong? When he obeyed God. And remember what we've read in Samson 19 verse 7, the law of the Lord is perfect. So the law guides us to live well. Like at home you have rules. Do we have rules at home children? And when you obey the rules, what happens? There are no tears. But if you disobey, sometimes it's boko. So the law of God helps us to be good friends with God. And God gave rules to the children of Israel. When Samson was born, you remember Samson's mommy was not able to give birth and an angel came to talk to Samson's mommy. And the angel told Samson's mommy something and daddy something. They are called the Nazarite vows. Is there any parent here who knows one of the vows which Samson knows to follow? Any parent? They were not to cut their hair. He was not meant to cut his hair. So if he didn't cut his hair, how did his hair look? Was it shaggy? Was it long? We believe it was long. We don't know maybe it was shaggy. But it was long hair. He had long hair. The other vows he was to do, he was not meant to drink what? What else was he not meant to do? To touch dead bodies. Ah, not to touch dead bodies or anything that was unclean. As long as Samson followed those rules, he would be good friends with God. You remember last week we did the Ten Commandments which tells us what to do and what not to do as long as you do them your friends with God. And following God's rules it demonstrates our friendship and our trust in God. But did Samson always follow the rules of God? No. So the rules also show us what is right from wrong. Now when Samson grew up he wanted to get, he saw a girl somewhere and he told his parents he wants to get married. But the girl he went and saw was from the enemies of Israel. What are the enemies called? What are the enemies called parents? Philistines. They used to fight a lot. And what God had told them is that they should never ever ever marry from the Philistines. So that is one rule of God that Samson broke. And when he broke it, what happened? He went and then ultimately he suffered. And when he realized that he had suffered, what did he do? What did he do at the end? He apologized. He told God, I am sorry. So God's rules help us to recognize what is good from what is bad. If there was no rule Samson could have married anybody. That's what God's rules do. Now you remember I said at the end Samson got into a big problem. Who knows what problem he got into? Anybody? Any parents? What rule did Samson break? He let his hair be cut. Yes, he let his hair be cut. Remember the first rule which God said is his hair should never be cut? And the second thing he broke he went and married from the Philistines. Now the Philistines, I forgot to tell you. You remember we said Samson was very strong. So Samson every time they will be fight with the Philistines, he will go and beat all of the Philistines. So they are always looking for a way to bring him down. And because sometimes Samson was disobedient, they found a way and they cut his hair. Immediately they cut his hair. What happened? His strength went and it became very weak. So the bad people caught him and they went around showing him to everybody. Saying look the person who God was using look he has no strength. So the law of God also points us to salvation. Because despite of Samson's mistakes, Samson made many mistakes. But still God gives us an opportunity to confess. And when we confess, what does he do? He forgives us. Did Samson confess? But when did he confess? He confessed when he was put in the temple. He was put in the temple and he was put between two pillars. And he prayed to God and said God please forgive me. And now that I am here, give me strength one more time. One more time so that I can destroy all of these Philistines. And what did God do? He gave him strength. Imagine this whole church, the building was bigger than this church. It was a very big building. And God gave Samson enough strength that he pushed and pushed and pushed on the pillars and the pillars broke. And the whole building came tumbling down. So that is how salvation came upon Samson. And also the law of God shows us about dependence on God. Whenever we have big problems, are we ever scared children? Are we ever scared? What are we scared of? Any child, what are we scared of? Some people are scared of snakes, somebody else? We are scared of spiders. Spiders? What else are we scared of? We are scared of monsters. Wow, we are scared of scary things. Okay, but now whenever we are scared, we can always depend on God. So when you are scared, you pray, dear Jesus, please help me not to be scared of. Yes, Kaila, you are scared of something. Okay, to leave the door open when you are going to sleep. Yes, that is why we pray for God to give us courage so that we are not scared. So it teaches us that we can always trust in God. When Samson depended on God, God always gave him strength. So whenever there is a time when Samson was attacked by a lion, somebody is scared of spiders. Now imagine now a lion attacked Samson and Samson depended on God. And what did Samson do to the lion? He beat it and he destroyed it. So whenever we depend on God, he gives us strength. Even at the end, Samson depended on God to give him strength one more time and he was able to destroy the enemies. So we sing one more song about Jesus being with us in the vessel. We sing with Jesus in the vessel. With Jesus in the vessel like a smile at the storm, smile at the storm, smile at the storm. With Jesus in the vessel we can smile at the storm as we go sailing home. Sailing home. Sailing home. With Jesus in the vessel we can smile at the storm as we go sailing home. Thank you very much teacher James and thank you Kedrog B. We look forward to next sabas to hear what next. To hear what? But before we go we are going to pray and I will ask mama Azizi to pray for us. Let's pray. We thank you for the children's story that we have listened to today Lord. We pray that you may bless us for the remaining parts of the programs and we pray that you may continue walking with us in this Christian journey. Thank you for your love and your masses that are new and to us every morning and may your will be done in our lives. We commit the speaker for today into your hands. May you speak through the speaker in Jesus name I pray. Amen. Thank you and for now we say goodbye.


All of these texts where we have to tow a weird line They need to tow a line with the exception of the so-called Gnostic literature for whom dualism is their answer Monism comes with the problem with a problem right monism comes to the problem that clearly eagle And you got to do something with it You have to explain where it comes from and how to defeat it But the world itself is somehow deficient and broken and the task is to climb out of it ancient Alexandria Was that you had 15 20 different groups of people out there in the streets of Alexandria being like we found Right whether it's Stoics with their Apothea Whether it's the way of Hermes whether it was the various schools and so-called Gnosticism or various schools and so-called Christianity, you know the Jews what a sight it must have been You talk about the marketplace of ideas, but you know, it's nothing like it must have been back then It must have been a positive this cornucopia of People competing and can you imagine a world where there's a hermeticist and a Gnostic and you know the middle platonic philosophers looking down their nose that everyone no one's gonna get left out of salvation everyone was shopping and Can you imagine being that illiterate shopper and you can't read these books? You can't read what they said. You're like, have you heard about the way of Hermes have you heard about the way of Valentinas? Have you heard about the way of Jesus? Have you heard about the way of Seth? I just want to re-emphasize that I really do appreciate you taking the time especially on a Show like this is just getting started out. Hey, man. Look everybody starts at zero subscribers So I remember my distinctly remember looking at my thing and looking at it and it's at zero subscribers So and I'm you know, you're a great guy. You're clearly like, you know, you're doing the hard work of Working through this material and so I'm I'm absolutely want to support support you and also just like I think that you're gonna be a really great content creator in terms of creating Non-click-baity really good venues for for scholars to discuss. So I Want I want to be on the ground floor of that man. Thank you Like I said, I wanted to talk about Poimandres I just kind of went through it and so I wanted to touch upon a Subject that you know a thing or two about Apocalyptic literature the Merkaba Literature things like that, but I wanted to look at it from the lens of Hermetic literature and just Kind of what maybe we can't say that it's genetic borrowing, but we can definitely tell that there's something going on there in terms of Like it's in it's in the ether so to speak And I just want to put out a disclaimer for our viewers when we compare these subjects We are not saying they're genetic links. I am following Jonathan Z Smith's Axiom that for any kind of comparison to be interesting We have to posit that there's a difference and the differences make it interesting. So that's where we're coming from We're not saying this Characters like this dying and raising God whatever we're just Comparing the text for their own sake So we're gonna talk about Poimandres dr. Sledge so in this text the character Really seems to be Kind of almost in a manic state. He's he's almost like in an altered state of consciousness like you see in something like in the Gnostic Nagamati literature like something like it's Ostrianos like they're in the state of almost mania and then they have this vision of this Poimandres, who's basically like a dr. Manhattan type character. I imagine Let's frightening. I think though. Oh, yeah Yeah, let's right thing and I think I think in fact that I think the Corpus a medicum either 13 or 11 does use the term mania for the state they're in so that I think you're exactly right that is the that is the you know In the the Corpus a medicum is leaning on the old platonic idea of the mania and in the phaedrus among other texts But yeah, I think this is this is they They are in an altered state of consciousness and I would argue I think that That Corpus a medicum one is downstream of someone's It's downstream of phenomenology, which is to say this is a text that this is a text that is the I think is the result of someone's Mystical experience Ditto with the discourse in the eighth and ninth and stuff like that. So I think that a lot of this literature is downstream of of phenomenology Yeah, one thing I found really interesting about Poimandres is When you compare it with something like on the origin of the world Reality of the rulers and not commodity codex and the not commodity codices Well those texts seem to have a very negative view Of all this stuff like Poimandres is almost like love story and I know that Honegraf kind of thinks similar. I don't know about this actually Oh, yeah, I mean you're absolutely right. I mean the Corpus a medicum calls the world the second God And so and by the world they mean the physical cosmos, right? And and as we've mentioned before the Corpus a medicum has is a spectrum some texts are more dualists some texts are more Monists, but Poimandres is very solidly on the on the team of the cosmos is the second God And in so far as it is a second God derivative of the first Unknown God or or maybe noose. It is beautiful. It is perfect. It is sublime This is not, you know, the nightmare that is the Hypothesis of the Archons or whatever were universes of prison and and all this sort of stuff. No, like this is a You break through this is sort of the cosmos moment called Allah Carl Sagan, right? Where you you get to gaze into the beauty of of the cosmos and the not only do you get to gaze into the beauty of it But the beauty of it embraces you and And that is that is I Don't know about you Jason. You know, I'm so awash and Nagamati. I'm so awash and and In so much of this sort of world pessimism that exists in a lot of this ancient literature That when you report Mondres it really comes across as positively beautiful where Where you you poke your head through the veil and the and the beauty of the of the cosmos Elevates and and embraces you It's just such a refreshing Such a refreshing change of pace Compared to you know, like you said the only origin of the world or the hypothesis on the reality of the rulers You're like, oh god more archons Yeah, and I can completely see where I Know that it's probably not the most historical thing to do But I like to read things like when I'm reading it personally as a reader from a more empire critical standpoint So I can totally understand where on the origin of the world or you know reality of the rulers are coming from You know, and they're like, okay, you were a fool sockless You're not the creator of the world But I just want to contrast that kind of attitude with what you find in point Mondres 114 So I'm just going to read this really quickly So this is from point Mondres 114 the man broke through the vaults and stopped and stooped to look through the cosmic framework Nature smiled for love when she saw him in the water She saw the shape of man's fairest form when the man saw the water like himself as it was in nature He loved it nature took hold of her beloved hugging him all about and embraced him for they were lovers That's from the coconut paper translation. That is just mind-blowing to me. Just like the beauty of that, you know It's so great. You know, so I love the you know If you read some of the early all chemical literature also producing the Alexandria in context one of my favorite writers is pseudo-democratists and His his favorite refrain is always nature and rejoices in nature Which tells me actually that I think a lot of these early hermiticists There's a reason why alchemy and hermiticism got linked together. I think that that We could go into this more, but I think that they actually are there's a genetic relationship there and I think the fact that the deep interest in the technical hermetica in alchemy is only possible because of the deep philosophical Love of nature Because if you fundamentally hate nature and if nature is fundamentally bad in nature all this is evil Then you only want to get out of it You don't want to tinker around with it to understand it better to learn to rejoice in it nature rejoices in nature and I Really, I really love not only the the deep Sublimity of poimandres in the hermeticum when it comes to their love of the physical world their love of being embodied at some level but also the uptake of that in the in the in the physicalism of Learning to tinker with it In terms of alchemy and so I I think those two things are very close. I think they're actually genetically related and I have a it just makes me very Happy in a way in a way that I've never I've never Personally understood the interest in nosticism, but I really do at some level dig hermeticism Precisely because of that right the that beautiful view of physical reality And not the diminishing of it. I really appreciate that Absolutely, and yeah, we can definitely talk further about These alchemical things that's definitely your area. I'm not as well versed in alchemy alchemy at all That's why I go to your videos. I'm like, oh, he does so much about this stuff It's just so awesome you know, I used to read a lot of Crowley and and Deon fortune and all that stuff when I was in college and Apparently after I left like like you said, there was a explosion and quote-unquote respectability for this stuff So that's definitely exciting for me. I'm definitely enjoying all the Scholarship resources that I do get from your channel on your patreon. So thank you for that So just a couple more questions just kind of We talked about the more positive aspects of Poimandres Let's kind of circle back to the adjacent Jewish apocalyptic elements that you find in the pseudoprographic literature second, you know, Enoch was a really big Parallel I kind of saw because You know, you have this concept in the Poimandres of casting off the vices in the spheres and you kind of find the same thing and Something like second Enoch with when he's talking about like the sun and the moon and all the different Deities I can't remember what chapter it was but And then something in testament Solomon where he's talking to the the seven demons, right? And it's just is this something that's just common coin at the time um Or is it some kind of more conscious borrowing in the hermetica? I It's so hard to say right that what what's the Man, what's the what's the cultural milieu and what's the genetic borrowing? You know, it's impossible to all these lines It seems to me that there is some sense in All of these texts where they have to tow a weird line They need to tow a line with the exception of the so-called Gnostic literature for whom dualism is their answer And that's not true of all so-called Gnostics either um Monism comes with the problem with a problem right monism comes to the problem that clearly evil exists Clearly evil exists and you got to do something with it You have to explain where it comes from and how to defeat it and I think that the way that A lot of non-dualists deal with it is by positing that there is some kind of minor cosmic tragedy That is overcomeable and that minor cosmic tragedy Is it's some of a link with the structure of reality? and one has to pass out of the structure of physical reality to ultimately undo it And so that's true of of Lots of texts. It's true of the murk of our literature. That's true of A so-called Gnostic literature. It's true of the Corpus Medico. We see it in second Enoch Even the ascension of azea right where he has to you know go down and go up So What they do right is they basically say that the the world itself is somehow Deficient and broken and the task is to climb out of it um Or at least the broken aspects of it So it seems like this was just a way of of of answering the question where you have a relatively omnipotent god Which is true of lots of these traditions. Most of them that aren't radically dualist and The way that you fix it is saying well, there's a radically perfect god that created a a That from which an imperfect universe emerged and the task is to ultimately ascend out of that imperfection And then there's a shade of How imperfect it is right, you know From platinus where matter is just basically the last bits of reality tattering off into the void always imagine like the end of your The end of your genes tattering off into the dirt and stuff as a weather out Always like that image of platinus's vision of matter Um or you know, whatever image But for whatever reason in the corpus of medicum Right is the idea that you have these daimons that actually penetrating into your soul that are stuck in you And you have to basically exercise of them and then you can you know ascend into into the The ogdua the anyod and maybe beyond um So they all have some flavor of that And some of them even have more radical versions, you know in in 30 knock right where you can be transformed into an angel And maybe even in paul where you can be transformed Uh in some kind of way you ascend and become transformed So I think all of them have some version of of that because they have to square a very simple problem The if the world if there's just the one How do we get to plurality and why is it plurality bad? Uh, and you can see it in the neoplatinian theory of procession and recession You can see it in the christian theory of salvation. You can see it in the the um In the hermetic version of ascending through the the spheres up to the ogdua the anyod They all have some version of that and I think that it's not because they're borrowing from each other so much Is that they have a shared set of philosophical They have a shared philosophical problem And they offer a different solution for that philosophical problem And by the way, you still see that being worked itself out in the middle ages a kabbalah assumes a basically neoplatinian framework and even the 13th century it's a shocking How similar the kabbalistic answer is in the 1280s in the zohar that you see in Literature of the second third and fourth centuries of the common era it is not because they're influencing each other It's because once you assume a certain logic only other certain kinds of logics are going to get you out of it and you don't have to There doesn't have to be some kind of like red thread of narcissism You know needled all the way through the this and that and the kathars and all this You just assume certain kinds of problems And you're going to only have a certain set of solutions that and that solution that's going to look pretty similar and unsurprisingly They look pretty similar all things told well said um So our final question Kind of getting away from the the muck of creation and the the question that The existential questions that all these people have while creating an identity um, I wanted to end on a more positive note just talking about um You know poymandres, you know at the end um, you know starting in poymandres 126 he he's he's kind of returning From his you know ascent and he's coming down and uh, you know similar to something like zostrianos and you know, naghamadi codex You know eight You know one You know, he's they they both have this mission But you could tell with poymandres as opposed to zostrianos. It's more It almost feels kind of more elitist to me versus with poymandres. It's a very um, it's a very lush kind of Exhortation to his fellow man, you know to save yourself You know, and I'll you know, I just I don't know just I was just wondering your thoughts on that I think this is idea of It's comparable maybe to the bodhisattva. There's something of the eastern traditions where and this goes back to play-doh, right? When people forget that the allegory of the cave is a is a dialectical story The person in the cave leaves sees the truth and comes back Right in the allegory of the cave the guy comes back to the people in the cave um That image I think made an indelible impression upon many many people and so poymandres and And it's a pity that The text you mentioned, right? We it's so fragmentary that it's hard to piece together all that's going on there I think it's the longest text in nakamadi actually zostrianos Yeah, I think the idea is that If you find the truth and the truth really Provides salvation for you You can't keep it hidden. You you reveal it you you try to use it to save people and Yeah, the zostrianos text does strike me as a little more elitist, but it's not like poymandres is like kind of people He calls them like drunkards and sleepwalkers and He's not exactly like easy on them as as it goes but um Yeah, I mean same as jesus and other kinds of these characters Um the idea right is that they discover some truths and they and they try to they try to save us with it um At some level, I guess I like that story so much more than I found the truth and now let me initiate The tiny elect few who will be worthy of the the message and this is a This is a thing about as a terrorism that I really dislike is the elitism that comes with it that That I found the message and now let me do the work of it, you know of initiating the tiny few of people that Are worthy of the message or whatever I like poymandres in this way because poymandres Plato too, right? He comes like the cave is all of us. We're all in the cave He comes like to all of us.  Everyone was shopping Everyone was shopping. No one's going to get left out of salvation Everyone was shopping And can you imagine being that illiterate shopper? and You can't read these books. You can't read what they said, you know and to have to go to the marketplace and Be like, have you heard about the way of Hermes have you heard about the way of valentina's have you heard about the way of Jesus have you heard about the way of of seith? um Man, it must have been Uh an exciting time But also fraught. I mean how to hate to have made so many decisions, but um, but yeah, I I think that That You can hurt you you can esotericize your way out of a job Um, which is what I don't want to do Um, you can you can answer I mean if you're if you're if your truth that you discovered is so secret and so powerful And so special that only you and three of your friends will ever be worthy of learning about it um Probably you're gonna esotericize your way out of a job And I do like zestrianus and pymandres where they Uh, they take these extreme revelations And they say no, we're gonna put them out there and we're gonna see who bites We're gonna see who believes it. We're gonna see if they want to join our group or uh community or or what have you And I find that to be just like a terribly fascinating glimpse into the world that must have been the um The the frothing milk of ancient alexandrian intellectual and spiritual life Well said I couldn't say it better myself. Um Yeah, I mean that brings up an amazing point.  Money suckers is by himself his own circle, perhaps But I'm sure money the suckers had his hype man Yeah You know, everybody has to have a hype man.  Yeah, ammonia socas have his guy out Being like have you heard about ammonia socas and You know, uh, he knows the thing and and of course, you know platinus Platinus, yeah, for sure. Yeah platinus and maybe even or did origin study under money suckers Um, I can't remember who exactly he studied under. I know he didn't study under one of those guys Yeah, but you you don't know Sorry, yeah, but again like uh Everyone has a height man.   Um Dr. Slips, this has been a pleasure. Thank you so much Of course, man. Where can people find you? Yeah, man. They can find me uh on most of the youtube, you know, I don't have a lot of other social media because it scares the hell out of me Uh, but uh, yeah, I'm on youtube. Uh, as uh under esoterica. That's sort of my My bag and and folks can also find me on on my patreon and You know support the work I try to do of providing, you know, again I'm trying not to esoteric as of myself out of a job. It's by the name of my channel It's all about trying to make esoteric accessible Uh in a way that scholarly and rigorous uh and fun.  Of course, man. Thank you