Rai o'r ddigon y cymryd o'r I7 o ffraith wc llwyddon? Rhaeg, rhaeg. A fradwch sy'n eu — the aforementioned EU opt out. We have the opportunity to make oral evidence from Scottish Government officials so I welcome Neil Watt, head of EU implementation. Neil Robertson, EU policy manager. Fraser Goff, assistant Scottish parliamentary council. Did I say Fraser Goff? I think I misread that. Catherine Scott, lawyer director at 4Legal services, good morning colleagues. I understand, Neil, what might want to make an opening statement, which might forestall some of our questions. Other Neil? Thank you. All right, Mr Robinson. Yes. Thank you. The measures that we are here today to discuss are included in a batch of 35 that the UK intends to opt into on 1 December. The UK Government announced that it would exercise the opt-out of all justice and home affairs measures in October 2012. That was confirmed in July 2013. In July of this year, the UK Government confirmed to the Scottish Government the final list of 35 measures that would be included in the package of measures the UK would opt back into on 1 December 2014. On 6 November this year, Spain lifted its bloc on the UK rejoining these measures. On 10 November, the Commons debated and voted on the UK Government approach to transposing the remaining 11 of these 35 measures into UK law. Following the affirmative vote in the Lodge yesterday, we understand that the UK will shortly confirm the wish to participate in the agreed package of 35 measures. Assuming the council and the commission agree the necessary procedural arrangements, the opt-in will take place on 1 December. There are two EU framework decisions subject to the UK opt-in for which we are taking a Scotland-only approach to the implementation. Those are the instruments that we are before the committee to discuss today. Despite the uncertainty around the opt-in, we have tried to keep the committee updated on all measures in which we are participating. The first of those SSIs transposes the requirements of the trials in absentia framework decision. This amends the original mutual recognition of financial penalties framework decision. Transposition of the trials in absentia framework decision will help continue to ensure consistency in the way financial penalties operate across the EU and make sure Scotland is not seen as an attractive destination for criminals. Confident their fines won't follow them here. It will do this by clarifying the circumstances in which a financial penalty imposed in a person's absence can be recognised and executed in another member's state. The provision of safeguarding-accused rights ensures that the correct procedures have been followed in a trial in absence before a request to process a financial penalty from another member's state can be accepted. They will also help to ensure that criminals are not able to evade justice by arguing that it was unfair to impose a fine in their absence. Moving on to the second SSI, the mutual recognition of supervision measures framework decision sets up a system for mutual recognition of bail across the EU, colloquially known as the European Supervision Order, the ESO for short. It will help to ensure that a decision on bail, taken by a judicial authority in one member's state, can be recognised and enforced in another. The aim is to allow an accused person to return home to be supervised there until a trial takes place in the member's state where the offence took place. It will also allow persons awaiting trial in their home country to move to another EU country while on bail, for example, to take up work. By implementing that measure, Scots awaiting trial abroad will be able to return home and continue with their normal home life, work or study until their trial actually starts. EU citizens, potentially being held in Scottish prisons, will also be able to return to their home member's state. Looking at it from another angle, persons on bail awaiting trial in their home country will be able to take advantage of work opportunities in another EU country. Implementation of those framework decisions supports the Scottish Government's purpose and vision for a safer and stronger Scotland when individuals' rights are supported. As the Cabinet Secretary for Justice has indicated in recent correspondence with the committee, only once the UK opts back into the third pillar pre-Lisbon-treated justice and home affairs decisions do we have the necessary vies to transpose those framework decisions? We are using power conferred by section 22 of the European Communities Act 1972, which enables ministers to make provision by way of SSIs subject to negative procedure, which will be laid and come into force on 1 December. We appreciate that this will mean that the SSIs are not subject to the usual 28-day scrutiny period by the Parliament. This is an inevitable consequence of the out opt-in process, which means that ministers only obtain the vies to make those two SSIs on the very day that they have to come into force. As he mentioned in correspondence with the committee, the Cabinet Secretary was particularly keen to factor in the views of the Scottish Parliament on the procedural options available for making the necessary transpositions instruments and to enable the fullest possible scrutiny. We thank the committee for their understanding and co-operation and agreeing to scrutinise drafts of the instruments in advance of 1 December. I hope that you find this helpful background and the team are happy to answer any questions that the committee might have. Thank you. Very grateful to you, Mr Robertson. You will appreciate that the policy of this is not actually what we are here to cover, but we certainly need to look at the process and I think that our questions will be started by John Scott, please. Thank you very much, convener. I just ask you to put it in one syllable, if you like, as to why it would not be possible to make these instruments before 1 December. I should answer that. We are using section 22 of the European Communities Act. That only allows us to make instruments to implement EU obligations. Those framework decisions will not become EU obligations until 1 December, so we only get the power on 1 December. It is due to a transitional arrangement that was put in place when the Lisbon Treaty came in five years ago. Pursue that, and I will bring it in afterwards. Because whilst I understand that may be the plain meaning of the words, which I've had a look at, there is a tendency to believe that we can't see a train coming down a track and because it's not in the station, the train doesn't exist and it's not going to arrive on time. Could it not reasonably be argued that because we can see an obligation coming? It's an obligation. Could we not have brought this forward by affirmative procedure on the basis that we could see the obligation would be there? That was an approach that we discussed with Parliament officials. We thought that there might be an argument for bringing forward an affirmative instrument and that was an option that was mentioned in correspondence with the committee. That was something that we were willing to do, but, as it happened, the feedback that we got from ourselves was that the preferred route would be using a negative instrument, so that's what we've done. I don't wish to disagree with you. I signed the letter that said as much, so I'm not trying to reverse that, but I'm just interested to know whether there is a school of legal thought, if you like, that recognises that there is an obligation that hasn't crystallised plainly is going to enable the objection to using the affirmative procedure maybe more in our minds than in legal reality. I think that there is an argument that it would have been possible to do it by laying an affirmative instrument ahead of the ministers obtaining the veries to make the instrument. That's on one reading of the Interpretation and Legislative Reform Act. Equally, I can see the view that would go otherwise, and perhaps it's to be on the safe side that we've done it this way. I just wanted to briefly explore the question of lacuna. In other words, what time, what minute does this all happen at? Does the power become available when the clock passes midnight between 30 November and 1 December? That's the precise time. Is that correct? I'll go first. In terms of what happens next, there was the vote in the Lords last night, so that removes all the UK parliamentary obstacles to us, the UK member state, confirming that we wished it all back into these measures. The commission and the council then obviously need to agree the necessary procedural necessities. I don't yet have all the detail on how that works in practice, but we understand that the commission will confirm that the UK opt-in will take place for these measures at or around midnight on 30 November. That will be confirmed in the official journal. Specifically, there is no gap. That's the essence of my question. As soon as it's published in the journal, which will be presumably synchronised to take place at midnight, it will have effect. At that point, it will be subject to the jurisdiction of the CJ. However, given the capacity of officials and ministers here, there is a momentary gap in our provision. I don't think that that needs to be the case. It doesn't need to be the case, but it's something that we might consider doing in the drafting. Basically, there's a legal principle that if a minister signs an instrument at any time on a certain day, that instrument is then valid for the whole day, so it goes back to a second after midnight, the night before. You could say that there's an element of retrospection there, possibly, and in some cases, if there's any question over that, then a time can be put on an instrument that is valid from the time that the minister signs it on the day. However, I'm not sure that that's actually necessary in this case. I just wanted to see if there were gaps. That's really all I'm interested in in this little question. If I'm allowed, convener, that a sort of non-legal sort of answered that question as well, which is I think there is some understanding at European institution and member state level that these are quite unique circumstances and transitional measures have been discussed. I think that the risks of that happening are very, very small. That would be my sort of non-legal answer to that question. My answer to the question is given that we're talking about criminal areas, and therefore lawyers tend to quite rightly worry about the detail. It's simply one of continuity, and the risk, as it were perceived by us, that somebody might be let out of prison and indeed maybe find procedural ways of getting away from very significant challenges simply because there was at least conceptually some discontinuity in the provisions under which they were held. I think what Catherine Scott has suggested indicates to me that there is a principle of continuity which recognises a signature during a day, takes you back to midnight, and if that continuity is recognised in European law, then we would appear to have explored the issue. Thank you. Mr Robertson, in your opening comments, I mentioned about the date of the 6th of November when Spain lifted their bloc. If that had happened sooner, would that have had an effect on which type of instrument could have been laid here in the Scottish Parliament, whether it's going to be a positive or a negative? No, because we would still have to wait until 1 December when the UK opted back in to have the divivies to make these instruments. As Ms Scott said, we didn't take the affirmative approach, we took the negative approach, so that would have had no impact on the decision. Thank you. Thank you. John, have we… I was just going to ask what mistakes happen everywhere and all over. What would actually be the implications of the commencement date on 1 December? I'm not commencing the instruments on that date. What would the implications be? I mentioned earlier that contingency measures have been discussed in Brussels, and I don't yet know whether an agreement has been reached and I can update the committee once I've picked up the issue with UK colleagues, but I understand that there will be a period of seven days for exactly that reason to make sure that there's no chance of any operational gaps, to make sure that they can agree all the procedural arrangements, and also to cover any other events that might or conceivably could happen. Slightly, and not entirely clear, but have you just explained to me again why the draft order and regulations are considered to be enabled by the powers in section 22 of the 1972 act to implement the EU obligations? Can you just explain that for the record for us perhaps again if you've already done so, but make it clear to me? Section 22 of the European Communities Act 1972 is a general enabling power, enabling ministers in the UK to implement EU obligations, and they can do that through statutory instruments either using an affirmative procedure or a negative procedure. So it's a general catch-all enabling power, and that's quite useful in situations like that with the current instruments. We don't have a domestic enabling power that we can readily use to implement these particular measures because they're kind of new and novel. So that section 22 power is very valuable in this case. Let's see. Just follow that up. Two, yes. Does specifically say that any designated minister or department may make such an order? Are we entirely clear that given the Scottish Parliament and because government wasn't even a twinkle in anyone's eye in 1972? Well, with a few exceptions perhaps. It certainly legally didn't exist. Are we absolutely clear that Scottish ministers are designated ministers in the context, please? Yes. Under what power? Well, it's a designation that's made under that power under section 22. There is a designation made. Presumably the Scotland Act, yes. Okay, thank you. Right, does that take us to Stewart? It does, Stewart. I thought we might have been. Thank you very much indeed. I'm not sure whether we need to cover back six. I'm comfortable that we've done six. In fact, probably seven as well. Right, thank you for your forbearance. I think you've covered off most of what we were interested in. I'm wondering whether I could look there at the regulations specific. Yes, I'm... John, do you want to... No one on you go. Okay, thank you. In which case we've got to the same place. Forgive us for the choreography. These are freestanding regulations rather than the ones that are brought through as an amendment to part 3 of the Criminal Procedure of Scotland Act 1995. I wonder if you could explain why you've taken that particular route to police. I'm happy to feel this one. I suppose there are a few reasons. One is that the 1995 Act, Criminal Procedure Act, is already heavily overlaid in with material and somewhat groaning under the pressure of it. It's not an easily navigable statute anymore. So there's no real attraction and cramming yet more into it. It doesn't help anybody. This is a very standalone procedure as far as the outgoing requests to other states to recognise Scottish bail. It obviously is a tie into our bail arrangements in the 1995 Act. Insofar as it deals with the incoming requests from other states, it concerns people who are not accused of any crime in Scotland. Therefore, to even put it into the criminal procedure bracket is to somewhat miss the point, really. Somebody going into court and dealing with one of those things needs an instrument, and I'd submit it's far easier to have a single document doing that than something shoehorned into the 1995 Act where it doesn't properly belong. Right, thank you. I think that's a very simple explanation. It doesn't have a big one question, which is whether the 1995 Act needs some consolidation. I appreciate that that's out of left field, but your view... You just said that it does rather imply that it might be in a less-than-perfect state. I don't think that it's controversial to say that the 1995 Act could do with, if not consolidation, perhaps splitting out into smaller statutes to criminal justice bill before the Parliament at the moment already does that to some extent. We're taking a lot of the police investigatory powers out of part 2. They will now set free standing in the criminal justice act part 1 as it, hopefully, will be approved by the Parliament. So there is a process of almost deconsolidation. Thank you. That's always helpful just to explore these things when we have the opportunity. Thank you. Stuart. I think this is the last bit. I suppose the issue really is that we've ended up with something which is reasonably satisfactory in so far as the Parliament has been engaged in this issue with sufficient notice, and the Government has provided draft instruments in a non-legal draft sense to enable Parliament to do that, and Parliament has had the opportunity to express its view on the whole subject in advance of the relevant date. Albeit the mechanisms are ones which are that word hated by so many civil servants novel. If, of course, the Spaniards had decided to take their decision for the sake of argument at midday on 30 November for operation the following day, we'd clearly be in a less satisfactory position in terms of Parliament's engagement. I needed great problems with the Government. I suppose the question is how likely is this to happen again in this kind of way, and that may be unanswerable. I could work out probably why. More to the point, are there steps we could take or others could take that would enable us to have certainty to enable us to act and consider and decide in advance of our having powers in this narrow kind of context, not in the generality? The answer to the question at how likely is this to happen again is pretty unlikely. We're dealing with a pretty unlikely set of circumstances. If I'm being honest, it's been a challenge for us to draft these proposals and also to give Parliament the kind of service that we're supposed to give you. I'm sure if you asked my Cabinet Secretary that question he would probably give you an answer about having the right to direct representation in the EU and that would be one way of it playing out differently. I think that it's a pretty unlikely set of circumstances. Going forward, we have the relationships in Scotland to do this work quickly and effectively and we have the relationships with UK and EU counterparts to implement all of Scotland's EU obligations. It is fair for me to say of the Spaniards that they could have done because in Europe there is a history of moving right up to midnight and stopping the clock and this hasn't been but could have been such a circumstance we might be in a less comfortable place. With these measures, all that would have happened is we wouldn't have been participating in them until an agreement was reached. Obviously the discussion around the European arrest warrant is a slightly different one and not one that we're probably able to go into too much detail on but that has been the sort of focus in the UK Parliament. There had been an initial whole member state agreement. Is that what you've just said? A lot of it comes down to how the opt-in was negotiated and the difference between the Schengen and the non-Schengen measures and we've set out the difference in correspondence with the committee so hopefully that will save me from attempting to try to explain it again. The non-Schengen ones are generally the ones that are reserved. Sorry, the Schengen ones are the ones that are reserved so that, again, if you're asking me about the sort of risk to Scotland that clearly these are measures that aren't operational in Scotland at the moment. It's fairly unique this five-year transitional period following the Lisbon treaty. I think that's a bit of a one-off and this first of December date is at the end of the five-year period and everything's happening at once. It's a fairly unique set of circumstances. Yes, thank you. Mike. Thank you, convener. I accept everything you say about this being unique, unusual, rare. And in this circumstance, I think, happily, the committee are contained with the negative procedure. But could circumstances arise, however rarely, in the future where we find ourselves in this position but where the committee would otherwise recommend an affirmative or even super-affirmative procedure because of the nature of some future instrument that comes before the committee? Possible, and that's where maybe that would be the opportunity to explore further this reading of the powers in the Interpretation and Legislative Reform Act, which was mentioned earlier, where we think that there is an argument that an affirmative instrument could be laid formally for scrutiny ahead of ministers gaining the power to make that instrument. If a future circumstance were to arise that was anything like this at all, we would explore that further and see if the Parliament was comfortable with us taking that approach. I think that we also decided that it was important for us to do Scottish regulations for these measures as well to give us a bit more flexibility in how we developed them and how we engaged with the Parliament on them. I think that that has been beneficial for us and I hope that it's been helpful for you as well. If I could just follow up, that's a very interesting thought from Ms Scott that consideration has been given to that. Are there any other possibilities? That's one possibility. Have any other occurred to you? No, I'd have to say no. I think that there is an argument that the affirmative could have been done even in this case and that's something to pursue further for the future. The committee has had some discussion about the possibility of some kind of super-negative procedure. Is that something that could provide a remedy? I'm not sure I understand exactly what's envisaged there. I've been involved in some discussions with the committee about super-affirmative procedure. I'm very happy to defer to Mr Fitzpatrick's office and come back to the committee if that's helpful. Thank you. Can I just observe? I think that whatever a super-negative procedure might be in other people's minds, I think that it's probably pretty close to exactly what we're doing, which is not laying an instrument, but producing an instrument that everybody can have a look at when going through the negative procedure when we get there. We might give that some more detailed thought. Stuart, do you? I just wanted to ask Catherine Scott if the process by which we might lay stronger foundations to the use of the affirmative procedure in advance of the powers being available, is that something that could be done via the Government going to court and seeking a declarator, or what other mechanism would be likely to be the one that might get us to that point? To remove or substantially mitigate the doubt? That's something that could be considered in the consequence of further discussion. I wouldn't necessarily be recommending that myself. Okay, thank you very much. John. Forgive me, convener, but in this respect and on the edges of existing legislation, I mean, if there are, and since we deal with the minutia of legislation and the enablement of it, if there are things that you, having been through this experience, feel that we, the Parliament, could benefit from in terms of our process, you might wish to write to us, to point out to us from your viewpoint, if there is an enhancement in terms of procedure that we could adopt. I mean, I appreciate that, obviously, that would be a matter for the Government Minister, as well as for the Patrick's office, but we too would be interested if this anomalous situation in which we find ourselves, there's a development to be taken from it. Very happy to take that away and feed it back to ministers. I think what is to us is also the value of the kind of non-formal engagement, you know, picking up with Ewan and his team and the lawyers as well, has been hugely valuable. The way we've tried to develop it is with our kind of operational group, but in a way the way we've tried to sort of manage the SG SP bit has been done through that kind of discussion, and yeah, I think there's lots we can learn, maybe not even for the sort of extremely novel cases like this. Right, I think that concludes questions. Can I just thank you for being here? Can I also thank you for precisely what you've just spoken about, because I don't think there's actually any criticism of the process that we have been through over the last few weeks to try and make this? It does seem to have been the best and it's been, I think, very effective on all sides, so we thank you for that. But clearly if there are any thoughts about how we might deal with this or similar kind of things in the future, we'd always be willing to hear that. Process is the things we worry about. It is surprising how often we seem to have found ourselves with unique sets of circumstances, and that's not a criticism again of today, but it does seem to turn up quite often on this desk, so grateful for your advice and contribution this morning. Thank you. I will suspend just briefly while we reorganise. Mae, thank you. Brings us to agenda item 3, which is instrument subject to affirmative procedure. No points have been raised by our legal advisers on the public water supply, Scotland regulations 2014 draft. Is the committee content with this instrument, please? Thank you. We've generated four instruments subject to negative procedure. The public bodies joint working integration joint monitoring committees, Scotland order 2014, SSI 2014, 281. There is a lack of consistency in the terms of articles 3, 5 and 4, 6, notwithstanding that the two provisions are intended to give the same effect. Further to this article 4, 7 has been drafted in a way that does not accurately give effect to the policy intention by going beyond what is required to achieve that intention, while the drafting may not impede delivery of the intended policy intention as it ensures that staff on the body to whom the integration functions are delegated are represented on an integration joint monitoring committee. It makes provision which goes beyond what is required to achieve that intention, providing that additional staff also may be represented. In light of those issues, does the committee therefore agree to draw the instruments to the intention of the Parliament on the general reporting ground? Public bodies joint working integration joint board, Scotland order 2014, SSI 2014, 285. A few points have been raised by our legal advisers in relation to this instrument. Firstly, article 3, 1d and 5, 2d provide that when an integration joint board is established it must include the chief officer of the integration joint board. Section 10 of the public bodies joint working Scotland act 2014 provides however that the chief officer is to be appointed by the integration joint board once the board is established. It would accordingly not appear to be possible for the chief officer to be a member of the integration joint board as established as that officer is not appointed until after the board is established. Does the committee therefore agree to draw the instrument to the Parliament's attention under reporting ground? I, as articles 3, 1d and 5, 2d appear to be defectively drafted. Secondly, article 3, 3 makes provision for establishing the number of persons to be appointed under paragraph 1a and b. The Scottish Government intends this to mean the number of persons appointed under each of paragraphs 1a and 1b. However, the committee may consider the manner in which article 3, 3 is worded does not accurately reflect that intention. The drafting as it stands could readily support the interpretation that the intention is for article 3, 3 refer to the total number of persons appointed under paragraphs 1a and b together. The committee may consider that article 3, 3 could have been drafted in such a manner as to put the matter beyond doubt. Does the committee therefore agree to draw the instrument to the Parliament's attention under reporting ground? I, as the meaning of article 3, 3 could be clearer. Thank you. Finally, there's a lack of consistency between the wording of articles 3, 6 and 5, 6, notwithstanding the fact that provisions are intended and that the committee therefore agrees to draw the instrument to the Parliament's attention under the general reporting ground. Mike. I think it's worth putting on record the following point. It's that these things, albeit that they don't seem to have huge importance in themselves, I think the whole matter of clear drafting is not just a matter of elegance for its own sake, but it's a matter of efficiency because when instruments are less clear than they ought to be or possibly even ambiguous, it consumes resource of perhaps multiple lawyers pondering over the meaning when in fact if the meaning was clear they could get on more quickly and efficiently. I wanted just to make that point that this is not just a mere matter of semantics. I think the point is well made and I'm sure I agree, thank you for that. No points have been raised by our legal advisers on the teachers pension scheme, Scotland number 2 regulations, 2014, SSI 2014, 292, nor on the South Arab Marine Conservation Amendment Order 2014, SSI 2014, 297, nor on the discretionary housing payments limit on total expenditure, revocation Scotland Order 2014, SSI 2014, 298. Is the committee content with those instruments, please? Thank you. That concludes the public part of this meeting. Thank you.


Tell us something about farming that you think people don't know. Farmers online make it look glamorous. We are guilty for that. Farming is hard. Farming is demanding. Farming will take away all your social life and it's either you're going in deep and doing it or you don't do it at all because you lose money. It's the one game where it's either you win or you lose. It's a gamble, you know, but also gambling is smart.  Is it lucrative for you? Yes. Farming is very lucrative for me. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be doing it. Well, class 1, farm. It's not done yet. Now, now you can lift it. Well done. Yay! My name is Nomali Somsasiewa. I am a farmer and I am a tech entrepreneur. We have built a business called Fresh in a Box which is essentially a data company very much tech-oriented and we've built a lot of our solutions within the agricultural space. I became a farmer by mistake but I found my passion. Why I do farming is because it follows simple logic. I plant something, I tender it, I care for it and it grows and gives me money. I love the soft life but there's also like a feeling effect of working with nature. It always gives you if you take care of it. I've learned that over time. It's not an easy game but it's fulfilling. I think I've made it to life. Spending the day with Noma. Because everybody in Zimbabwe is talking about you. Really now. Jeez! My name is Maya. Hi Maya. An annoying village boy from Ghana who is on a journey to change the negative narrative of Africa. But I really want to ask you a question. Yeah. No man. Do you think Zimbabwe's economy depends on farming? Depends no. Realize? Yes. This is the only country that I've been to that I've seen so many young farmers. Yeah. I feel like everyone is a farmer in this country. Everyone actually is I think. Really? Yeah but it's a recent revolution. So take us back to the time when we had the land reform and we got into a space of not being the bread basket anymore to being the basket case some would say. And we started to be on a journey to see who should be doing the food production. Because I think we spent a lot of time not knowing who used to produce the food right. And there's many of us African people who then said okay but we've been farming. We were the ones farming the land. Why don't we continue that process? And so it's been a revolution. But to see young people in agriculture, I think we've seen a lot of that happening pre-COVID, the first year pre-COVID. Okay. All the way into during COVID time. The only thing that you could do, the only thing that you could do and not be locked down was be in the field, right? So farming became the new thing, became the new profession. It was the only thing that was in the essential services because people have to eat. Right now I am on a 10 hectare farm and I'm tilling 6.5. She's a big girl. Yeah, there are bigger people out there. Here I am. How long have you been in farming? For the last four years now. So I didn't start farming because I loved farming. I'm actually a tech entrepreneurial who uses solutions in the agricultural space. So my main journey into farming was from Freshener box or e-commerce site. Right? And that e-commerce site, we work with smallholder farmers, backyard farmers, to bring together vegetables, fresh fruit and veg and we deliver to people's homes. And during that building, we ended up getting into a position where the farmers that were around used to follow trends, right? So like, Zimbabwe is a weird place. So there was a tweet that came out and said this guy had like this beautiful Toyota with D4D with plastics and everything. And he posted on and says, I got this brand new car because I sold cabbages. Guess what? The following season, everybody had cabbages. I'm a mathematics graduate from the University of Zimbabwe. I don't farm, right? I was like, I probably could hack a math formula, coordinate people to grow and then it works out. The problem with being book smart is that it never actually translates to the practical smart unless you know how to do it. Then the universe was like, hey, I'm going to send you somebody who's got a place. So then this place came about to be and then I started farming. So I needed to learn how to farm for me to be able to actually work very well with farmers. Mama, were you born and raised in Haraj? No, actually, I'm a bluer girl. Oh, okay. Yes, it's the city of kings. It's in the south of Zimbabwe and that's where I grew up. That's where I was born from. I only came here for uni and they use it. You ever left the country? To travel, yes. No, I mean to live in the country. No, no, no, that's my husband. Thank you for coming. Welcome to Zimbabwe. Thank you. How is life in Zimbabwe? Are you doing this with your husband or are you doing it alone? I'm doing this with my husband, but in the farm, well, that's all me. So what is your husband doing to help you then? Okay, so my husband, I'll say he can sell ice to an Eskimo pretty much, but here's the brains behind the freshener box, the technology that we develop. Here's the guy that knows how to package it and sell it more understandably to people. He's very great with marketing and branding, you know, and he's pretty much the superstar, but he's, you know, he shares his limelight with me. So that's, that's more what he does. So I grow the veg, he sells the veg. The first ever business that we've got into was Zoodies, Zimbabwe and Hoodies. And we're pretty much selling them online and we're trying to like own some of our, some of our realities in the apparel that we wear. So we had one Zimbabwe and Hoodie. And at the time we were very close to elections. So we had the MDC ones, we had the Zano PF ones. We're just trying to, you know, make everyone wear whatever it is that you support. But then always remember in your mind that at the end of it, it's about being Zimbabwean. However, different opinions are beyond what government comes into place. We still have to put Zimbabwe first. And then that was the whole idea and that was great. But then it also lasted as long as the election. As soon as it was done, we're like, okay, what to do next? Then came Fresh in a Box. And Fresh in a Box has morphed into like a lot of things. Just morphed into like a lot of things. The reason why I ask you this is because of capital to start up a farm. You know, a lot of young entrepreneurs out there keeps on complaining that I don't want to be a farmer because it's a capital intensive. But you have done it. So I want to know how did it all start, where the funds came from? With capital intensiveness of a farm, that's a reality of most, of every farmer in the world, right? The Americas and the Europe have got their banks, the federal banks subsidizing farmers, you know, because they have to produce food. And unfortunately, that method hasn't worked out well in Africa. If you look at how we've been doing this, right? We haven't had access to loans because it's been difficult to try and find a loan when you don't own land. So for instance, I'm leasing this land. It's not mine, right? So I can't walk up to the bank and say, hey, listen, I have been leasing this land for three and a half years now, two, four years. Please, may I please have some money and give me for 10 years, even if my lease does give me that loan, right? Because any farmer needs at least about 10 years to like very well establish themselves. So it is capital intensive. We've built everything on this farm, based on the profits of Freshener box. So we've built very little. When we got here, we opened up that space first. And then we opened up the greenhouse sections. You'll see the greenhouses are not perfect. They're not plastic. It's just structure. So I'm literally farming on open land and it's not greenhouse, right? I would ideally love to be on greenhouse. And just my still greenhouse structure requires about 22,000 to 28,000 US dollars to put up. My output would definitely shoot up. But even if I told that to a banker, they'll be like, that's a nice story to hear. But knowing that the economy of this country rely on farming, I guess there should be grants from the government to support young farmers or even farmers in general. So I think, okay, the government does have grants, right? Are they giving you some of the grants? No, no, no. I was about to explain because I don't want you to never not know the truth. The government does have a, it's not necessarily a grant, but it is a loan system. But the way it's always been structured is to look at the big commercial farmers. So remember Zimbabwe was made up of white commercial farmers. There are not many of them. I think there are about 500 of them. They could feed the whole of Zimbabwe and stuff like that in export. But now that there's many of us farmers, like I work with 2,800 plus farmers, right? And all of those farmers don't have big trucks of land like 200 hectares. One has one hectare. Another one has got like 200 square meters and stuff like that. So it's not huge trucks of land in one place. It's huge land in different places. And the government only structures those kind of loans. So it's called command agriculture. You will meet maybe some of the farmers that we, that I'm associated with from my farmers union who are in that scheme. And I'll tell you that it works for them because they have huge trucks of land that they are working on, right? So those kind of grants work for them. They haven't managed to figure out how to assist a smallholder farmer. That is not necessarily a subsistence farmer. The economy of the smallholder farmer has not been addressed. And I think that that's a role that we want to see government still getting to. That's a role that we want to see private sector still support because 60% of the land in Zimbabwe is with smallholder farmers, like it or not, right? They are the stewards of the land, right? I'm the steward of the land here. But if I have no access to capital, there's no one who's designing a financial instrument for me to be able to farm. I will use my every, that's why I cry when I see somebody stepping on my 50 cent cabbage because there's a profit there that I want to plant back into the ground, right? I'm going to build 10 times slower than my counterpart in South Africa because their banking institution has figured out how to handle their different types of farmers, right? I'm building slower than my counterpart in Kenya because it is the hub of capital right now in Africa. You know what I mean? The agri-space, they have all of the money, right? So that's the reality that we have. Do I think that government has got a lot of scope to work on? Absolutely. Have they done enough for the farmers? No. So here we'll learn clearing. We're about to prep. So we do a lot of intensive farming here because every plant that you see, for instance, we're growing a cauliflower. So this one's an infancy stage and it's going to grow into something like this, right? But it takes 90 days. So I can't afford to have any land follow because it means I only earn every 90 days and I've been developing a system for me to plant 365 days and harvest 365 days so that I can at least earn every day for me to be able to sustain my workload and stuff. So you'll see that most people tend to farm something and then let the land rest and leave it follow with the cover crop. We have to remove it. We'll clean up this area. By the time we go into the evening, it's going to be something else on the ground. So we start. But the crops are not ready? No, these ones are done. It's done. And you've taken it off for it? This is the fruit. All of this is done. Like, well, we're done. This is over. Well, if you want to eat the green veg, great. But that's done. It's over. How I wish this is Ghana because this should be cassava. Okay. We hate the greens, man. We want the roots. You want the roots. But yeah, so that's going to be done. Why do I feel like your greenhouse is way different? They used to be different. No, I mean, what I'm seeing right now, it doesn't look like a greenhouse that I know. What happened to the roof? Okay, so this is the myth of not accessing capital, right? That's the result of that. So you have greenhouse structures that used to be here, but you have to change the plastic for your green housing every five to 10 years. So when I got here, it was already like this. And I was like, no, we're going to put up greenhouse structures and stuff. We're going to know.  Because shitting this greenhouse would cost about $15,000. Dollars? Dollars. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. What has been the major challenge since you started this farm? My biggest challenge was learning how to coordinate what I want out of my farm and having the people that I work with understand how intensive and fast moving we need to be. That's the biggest. Aside of capital, aside of pests and diseases, because that's very common in agriculture. We can't expect it to be different. Those are the things. Just the coordination of how fast moving we want to be versus them acting fast. I think that was the biggest challenge since I started. But we're on it now. We get it. Finance is not a major challenge. I mean, it is a challenge. I just never want to always major on it because then I never get to do anything. It's now a matter of fact that smallholder farmers don't access financing a lot in Zimbabwe especially. We're already country risk to be given money. Now that I know that, what am I going to do about it? I have to find another way. So that is not even in my challenges to tackle today. I'm not doing that. If I do get the financing, great. If there's an ad about, oh, smallholder farmers, grants, I apply. If I get it, awesome. If I don't, still good. We still have to do what we have to do to produce, to sell, and put the profits back in. What keeps you moving? The big idea that I don't need to own greater parts of the land. I need to know how to use technology to help me be one of the biggest producers in the country. And like I said, I'm already working with 2800 smallholder farmers. We make a total of about, what, 300 hectares of land in total? That's huge amounts of land that we're intensively growing on. We now need to figure out how to sustainably grow, use more biodiversity methods for us to continue having food. And we're sharing to that wealth. So unfortunately, it's not 300 hectares of land and all of it goes to me. It's 300 hectares of land shared amongst a 2000 of us. And we see how we keep growing from that. The fresh farm looks this small, but the real fresh farm is big dotted places all over Harare for now that produce for fresh in a box and deliver to people's homes every day. It's a good feeling. Like seeing fruit like this is a good feeling. Seeing it go to waste like this is a lot of money. A lot of money. That breaks my heart. That breaks my heart because this is like what? 90 cents a kilo. This is relatively almost a kilo. It's a lot of money I could put back in, but it's the reality of farming. There is post harvest loss. Have we been in conversations about how we stop post harvest loss? Absolutely. But we're still getting there. Do I think I could value add a cauliflower maybe, but it's like freezing it, right? Yeah. And blast freezing in a place where you got here and there was no electricity. How do you irrigate the crops? There's drip irrigation, and I use overhead irrigation on the bigger part of the lands where we were. Thank God you don't have a payment. That's why thank you for helping who consider charity because if I have to pay you, you need a payment. Don't worry. This says that you have charity on my channel. So it's all right. I'll do it for charity. When you hear the name Africa, what comes to your mind? Great scope and defeat. I don't know why it's such an oxymoron. Whoa. You did ask what came to mind. It's an oxymoron in the sense that you know how we always talk about Africa's got like a lot of potential. We have the most people. We could probably industrialize and be the richest continent. We are the richest continent on minerals in terms of just our people. We are so adaptable. We're malleable. We do everything. The greatest countries in the world were literally built on the backs of black people. And yet there comes my oxymoron. We are still as many if not more than the people that built the Americas that built the Europe. And yet we're failing to just build our own environment. Why is that so? I don't know. Like it feels like we need to be subjugated for us to be in a better position. If you look at all of our African countries during colonialism, we were developing at a faster and better pace than when we got our independence. Something turned. Like why didn't we continue doing what we were doing? I think the education system was meant to teach us how to think. Like I never want to make excuses for why we as Africans are not doing the needful. I want to always hold myself more accountable than what my circumstances have brought me to. You know what I mean? So yes, there's a lot of issues. Like I told you, like if I ever used capital as my biggest challenge, I'll never do anything because I'm like, I can't start because I don't have capital. And yet there's a lot of things that I could have done. I could be doing enough for me to get started. It's going to take me longer. But who's in a rush in Africa anyway? I heard in Zimbabwe when you grew corn, that's solid to the government. Okay, if you grow maize, yeah, but then not this kind of small scale maize, right? So this is sweet corn. It's a different type of corn. This one's more horticultural focused type of corn. Eat it with your meals, use it for brides and stuff. But if you're growing like hectic maize and you're on command agriculture or you're on that subsistence farming and you have extra, you have to take it to the grain marketing board because the design of how we all feed each other is based on taking grain to the central grain marketing board for us to distribute food to each other. Remember what I said about if there was anything I could change about Zimbabweans? I'd change our mindset. No matter how hard the government will try now, there's always somebody who's going to find a loophole, exploit it, and then make those tries or gains fruitless. And then somebody else is going to prosper big. And that's not the person's problem because we've had to deal with very badly dealt hands for so long that all everyone is thinking about is if it's not going to be me and my people, then... Life in Zimbabwe is a paradox, right? So I wouldn't be anywhere else in the world. I think it's a beautiful place. But at the same time, we've got all struggles. You know, like most African countries, you'll notice that there's the gap between the haves and the have-nots is huge, right? And we're in a bit of a crux at the moment. We're coming into an election year. The polarization in our nation is huge. You're living abroad? Yeah, I've lived a broad more of my life than I've lived here. So it's good to be home, right? It's good to be in a place where I don't ever feel like I have to check my visa. I don't feel like there's any limitations in what I can do here, you know? Bro, a lot of us are looking forward to, I mean, living in the UK, US, you had all of that and decided to come back in here. Is everything okay with you though? A lot of people say that to me, right? And I think I always try to explain to people that your home is best, right? I don't particularly like the weather in London, you know what I mean? It's very, very cold. I found myself very out of place in New York because there's a certain speed and capitalism that just sort of dehumanizes me as an African. Wow. You move back to Zimbabwe? Would you say it's worth it? Yes, absolutely. I think for me it's been really worth it, but I also must be very honest about my privilege, right? So I can do things because I went away and with the exposure and the experience and sometimes even the wealth accumulated overseas, you can do better when you come home. See, I don't think a person who had stayed home could do what we're doing now, right? Exactly. So will you encourage the diasporans to come back home and help rebuild Africa? The diaspora has a really huge role. If you look at countries like Israel, for example, which are built off the backs of a very strong diaspora who have made it a haven for their children to love going to Tel Aviv on the holidays and so forth. I mean, this is what we must be doing as well as Africans that when we come home, we should be enjoying the best, the fruits of the land. And I'm hoping a lot of diasporans will be there right now, cold and miserable and missing home and missing the food and missing the culture. And it's like there's an opportunity to have the best of both worlds and I really encourage people to rebuild their nations, especially as Zimbabwe. If you had a chance to change one thing, is Zimbabwe or will it be? I'll change the mentality of the leadership, right? And I think there is a mentality that maybe is an African trait that does not gel well with capitalism.  Those are the kind of things that are really bringing us down as a nation, right?  Rather than, oh, we're from the same tribe, we speak the same language, we speak the same, you know, we're from the same totem. I would love a place where it says, this guy's really good at what he does, let him do it. And then this guy's really smart with numbers, let him do that, right? Because right now we're being led by inept individuals who are there purely because of patronage and purely because they fought a war that nobody of our generation remembers. We appreciate, and I think the new war is the war with ourselves. The new war is the war of how do we get out of poverty? How do we get into the 21st century? How do we get across the internet? How do we get, you know, better technology and greener technology to save our planet? These are the new wars that we must be fighting. We cannot be fighting colonial wars in 2022. So we've been building an app that is called Let's Farm Africa, right? It's supposed to be a crowdfunding platform for smallholder farmers to be able to say, okay, this is what I'm doing. I want to do a greenhouse like this. I need $5,000 to get it up and running. I want to produce sweet peppers and tomatoes. In two seasons, I should be able to pay you back your money. Please, guys, crowdfund for me. So, you know, putting your money, you don't have to put a lot of money from as little as $5 to maximum $500 and build that one farmer app. We believe that by building those little cells, we're going to be able to create an economy where people can still land without having to suffer the legalities of having collateral and so forth. You know, I read about you, yeah? Where? No, you're all over the internet. That's why I'm saying I'm a celebrity. You know, meeting you, I feel like I made it to life. That's nice. I feel like I made it in life. Oh, come on.  Now we look towards our aging parents for help. When all of their pensions, savings, and livelihoods has been stolen from them at least four times in one lifetime. And I started to realize that at the age of 27, I haven't even achieved anything close to what they had when they were 27. And now all I'm doing is to hope that a passport that I applied for ages ago could come out so that I can go and try and live my dream elsewhere as a servant in foreign lands. Yeah, I'm a conscious citizen. I don't like being called a political activist. I just have a really strong opinion when it comes to politics because I understand how it affects daily life. That's all. So conscious citizen more than political activist. And I'll take it. Why you started that, though? When I was in uni, yeah. But I used to do student politics. University gives you a platform to experience the country or the world in a very contained form. And that kind of politics was heavily, heavily influenced by our national politics. So we could never like progressively have conversations on how we build a community or we build a nation within the university, bring up bright ideas without being clogged by the national politics. And that's why I got in there to try and say, let's bring our smartness from university and build solutions for what we can then offer the nation because the national politics wasn't offering anything except for polarization. It was polarizing us.  You know, I still have a conscious opinion. I've stopped making videos like no BS I used to do on my YouTube channel because there's only so much you can keep reiterating. I think the things that I spoke about five years ago are still the same things. And it's absolutely disheartening for me to realize that I'm still talking about the same things and nothing is changing. And if I can't change it by having a conversation online, I need to do something else. Farming is my new activism. Food is political, you know. What can I do to show results that if I change what I'm doing right now, there's a way that I will influence the politics. It may not be a kaboom, big splash show of changing the politics, but I can definitely tell you that ever since we started the farming conversation in Zimbabwe, it's becoming the loudest and the loudest and the loudest conversation about Zimbabwe. That's why you can come in and say, would you say farming is Zimbabwe's backbone? And I say, no, but then it relies on it because we've started that conversation and we've kept on amplifying it. Everyone wants to be a farmer and rightfully so because there's more tangible results. You can see the results. It's no longer a policy. You know the reason why we don't get results in terms of talking about politics? Yeah. Because I feel like the older generation are not ready to work with a younger generation. And it's everywhere in Africa. The collaboration is not there. You don't think so? Because I feel like if they can tap into what we have and then work on it, just join forces together to help build the continent together. But I think they are not ready for this conversation, by the way. I think they want to have the conversation. We have an arrogance as young people because of the internet, like the globalization concept has gotten to us. We have an arrogance to how we approach them. And I think the African society in how elderly people are treated they still want to hold on to that. And yet the way we want to bring our ideas and how we operate has a lot of arrogance to it. That's why we don't have that collaboration. And unfortunately, for us to progress, we can't not be arrogant about the situation. Our ideas are pretty much very arrogant. And they have to be like that for them to be forceful, for them to move, for them to move the needle when it comes to certain things. And I think that's where our breaking apart is. We'll find each other. We'll find each other. I want to know, is it a lucrative business? Farming is a lucrative business if you can explore two or three parts up the value chain. We produce, we process and repackage, and then we deliver. It is worth it when you look at it that way. If you do farming alone, for it to be a lucrative business, you need it to be at massive scale. And you need government subsidy. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Is it lucrative for you? Yes, farming is very lucrative for me. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be doing it. Fresh in a box in the next 10 years, I definitely see it as a juggernaut within Southern Africa. In terms of how we use technology to develop spaces of agriculture and how we apply generally to everything that we do and connect it together. Being a female entrepreneur in Zimbabwe is not an easy sport because I'm a mom too. So moms have got expectations to building homes. You don't bring the challenge the way I do right now and still manage to keep the home together. So you have to bring your 210% to make it all fit in. I have to trade off something. Sometimes my children don't get to see me as much because I have to do the needful to bring an entrepreneur. I have to give in my 28 hours and 24 hours because that's what's going to put food at the table and that's what's going to make me a cut above the rest. But I have an advantage of having married the right person. My partner is the best compliment to what we do. Our life is pretty much our business and our business is our life. So we know how to take it all in and never try and separate things so that we experience it all. We have it all in one basket and get the joys and the sadness of it all. And that's the experience of a female entrepreneur in Zimbabwe.


Welcome, traders, to a technical charter with me, Patrick Munnally. Want to draw your attention to the Nikkei 225 on the daily timeframe with a couple of two-way trading opportunities developing here. What I'm looking for is price to extend up into this descending trend line resistance here. We've got weekly range resistance coming in 29,820 and we've got the weekly R3, 29,838. I'm looking for price to pull back from there to bearish reversal patterns to set short positions targeting move into the monthly pivot and this ascending trend line support of the pandemic lows before we get the next extension to the upside. So watching for bullish reversal patterns in the 28,500 area to reverse shorts to the long side. As always, traders, plan the trade, trade the plan, most importantly, manage your risk.


Okay, look, we got a lot of things to do on our hands and we need all of your guys to help still. Okay.  We still need to find a way out of here. And we still need to figure out if in fact the person who was the accomplice was Edgar or someone else's behind another murder. In fact, let's do that. Speaking of point two. He's kind of dead. Sorry, everyone. I'm not feeling very good right now. I thought we could go home. I think it's important to tell them what happened. Maybe you shouldn't be on that high of a step. I ran an experiment. Okay, so you're taking care of it. We ran an experiment because we have realized that Tam had an attachment to the one hand and the other hand on the other. We decided to go and look into this and realize that Tam was approximately 99% human and only 1% immobilized. That's point one. Correct. And what happened is, we ended up managing to make Tam completely human. What's helpful? Yeah. And it worked? It worked! It worked! It worked! It worked! It worked! I didn't realize the thing. Yeah. But it's not possible. It could have had consequences. It made them even more marvelous. Because your powers, you said they weren't working no matter how much you were eating. I usually experience a hangover effect whenever I have a big experiment like that. It's not working. Keep running. This is not the point. What I'm saying is I figured out how to get out of here in my moments of death. I will believe you for a second. I have been working incredibly hard on a way to get us out of here. And I know everything that we need to do. And my people can work with me and your people can work with you. And we can figure this out. Yeah, it'll be alright. I'm sorry, but I need some of you rude, but you've been here for 10 years. You said you've been working that entire time trying to figure a way out and you haven't figured, and you haven't found it. You've been working that entire time. I've been working on it for two years, and they've been doing a lot of drugs. So your co-worker is working on a domestic stuff, huh? Apparently. Sorry, may I ask, why did you vote for me? Because no one else had. I'm trying to vote for Edgar, and Edgar's dead now, so I'm trying to figure out the unusual angles. Well, I'm glad no one else went down that trail. That's why I said it would be me lifeless in that research report. But wasn't that his strength? Supposedly, but why would he so willingly be throwing that thing around if he knew he could have potentially been caught in a line of fire? I think he knew it poisoned. I agree. I don't think he knew. I think he was trying to... I don't know what he was trying to do exactly. I think he probably found some loophole in the Foundation rule books and ethics codes that allowed him to use MSX pretty willingly without retribution. Yeah. He never once considered the use of poison before. I wouldn't... He's in his MO. Yeah. He seemed very organized to a fault, maybe. Yeah. And murder and poison doesn't seem very organized. I agree. Your co-worker seemed kind of upset by that, too. Thanks a lot. I was also equally upset about how many people were suspecting her of equally being the accomplice of camp. Yeah. So that's why I'm trying to look at angles that aren't usual because that seems to point her as a victim. Check it. Restroom. I think it might have suffered a sense of... It's just, really, he's broken the PA system and here has been broken again. One of the things that is quite like the idea but not... Is that something that... is he's been hearing? It probably is. If we're gonna get any closer to solving this whole complex nonsense, we really need to start figuring it out. We need to start figuring it out. Just exactly where everyone was last night. And we don't have time to allow people to lie or beat around the bush or where they were. Yeah. Where they were last night. Exactly. And I can vouch for Iris and Dr. Entertainment. Dr. Entertainment and Iris you can vouch for, huh? Yeah. The three of us after the murder were grieving in solidarity in Iris's room. So they definitely didn't move the bug? No. The amount of time that it took to grieve and try to process everything and still get over it. There was actually no way they would have had enough time by themselves to move the body in any way. And you also think they did not do the murder even? I mean, Dr. Entertainment appears to have almost just killed themselves to try and make camp human. And Iris and Carter were too in love. They were just too happy. That's true. Yeah. I know there's that thing of like it's always the wife, it's always the fiance, the significant other that does it. I just don't buy it in this case. Yeah. No. Iris seems pretty upset generally. Yeah. I can at least confirm the two of them, but with basically the entire time from when the murder happened and when the body was moved. Yeah, actually. All right. Well, thank you, Dr. Thank you. Gonna do my rounds, I guess. We got a QR code, huh? On the back of the table. We're not talking about the idea is leaving clues for us. I have no idea where the ads ended. No, I got tiny. No? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. We can make that tiny. I see a big package now there. A lot. Package. Right. I can't read it. I just want to remind somebody. Towels. Towels. There's a leg under the bed. What? A leg under the bed. There it is. There it is. That's it. That's it. Thank you. Okay, yeah. I don't know what this is. Okay. Um, if it's a... A tiny body part. Yes, a tiny body part. A tiny body part. A tiny body part. That's what the leg is. How many other... On the table. Oh. The tiny, tiny table. Oh, my God. Did you stall? Did you stall? Yes. Okay, okay. Put the... What? Okay. Okay. What are the other... What are the words on the body thing? Rosa Violet. What? Why did 18 people run into that room when they put a select? Um, I have no idea this is something new. Well, there's some of the... So a QR code sent us to the bedroom. What did he call them? Residences? It was like one of the residences. And he gave us the photo. Rosa Violet. That's what he did. Sickness. That's how you get out of here. Yeah. What are you talking about? What are you taking? He told us that. Yeah. What? Yeah. What do you mean? He said there were lots of residences that the idea told him about. Yes, yes. What? I'm going to explain everything, okay? Yeah. What are you talking about? I'm going to explain everything. Yep, yep. I'm going to explain everything. I'm going to explain everything. I'm going to explain everything. Yep. Yes. There's a QR code on this one. Can you scan that? Yeah, yeah. What does it send you to? It sends me to like pieces of a puzzle. Shells. Shells. You've got to find a shell. But did they find it? No. All right. Not in the books or anything. Not in the bowls. Not in the bowls. I see. And the only other place I can think is up there, but... We can't. Yeah, let's see it. Yeah. Unless it's like... Now we're onto something. There might be another shell somewhere, but... Second arm and a head. Second arm and a head. Alright, alright. Second arm and a head. Alright, alright. Second arm and a head. Alright, alright. Second arm and a head. This seems kind of odd. We got that QR code. Yeah. Oh, what the? This is kind of oddly specifically. Which is blue? Which is green? What'd you find there? I just found that on the shelf here. Oh, is that my witch's brew? You have witch's brew. You have used witch's brew? Yeah. I like to collect trinkets. Oh. This is the only thing that can come out of my body, actually. Okay, you got a tool. It's like this. Oh, that's a liquor guy. So far, you're getting quite the stash. Fair enough. Did you buy champs? Did you come across like a wooden head? I'm so sorry. It's all right? Yeah! The riscultus, the burglar riscultus are on no 29th minute three. It's about three days east towards shipping. Dammit, I'm popping. We kind of don't have that kind of time, sadly. Oh. It's okay, it's okay. We'll make some in here somewhere. In our fortified area. Okay. Also, hey guys, we found something that he likes. Oh, great. What'd he do? Oh, it's my greats. I swear to God, somebody's gotta feed him. Somebody's gotta feed him? Good! It's the last one. I think I should give it to him? Sure. Give it to him. All right, all right. It is in. Thank you. No problem. No problem. Of course.  Hopefully you'll bring us some salt as well. Thanks. Okay. On this up, we're all here. Welcome to... We're here, we're here. 19. We should find who's trying to kill everyone before we leave, though. Agree. I have a feeling that they'll find a way to not let us leave if we do. That's the thing, if you guys are having a hard time hearing out how to finish this dull thing to get us out of here, there's a very good chance whoever is doing the orders is constantly sabotaging us. Keep us here. I did hear that the dull part that was in the couch was not supposed to be there, or was gone. If it was gone, it might have been hidden by said in pastore. I agree. Have you narrowed down, eliminated any suspects? Right now, my only situation is that it was Edward Sloan in my mind. Something is about Joe is weirding me out, but I don't have any evidence of anything yet. Yeah, he's just too normal. Anyone named Joe is suspicious. That's too normal. There's something there. No one named Joe is normal. Well, that's not true. The opposite's true. If you want to run this line, I'll run that line. I'm going to have you run this line, actually. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I tried to investigate Joe. Oh, you did. I'm sorry. You're crazy. He's learning. He's going to clean it and overtake his company. What happened to poor Joe? He has messed up. What? He's done. What? He's done. We can't get out of here. The person who made it is dying, bro. Not going to hurt him. Oh, my God. He's got it. He's got it. What was that about, Joe? Apparently, these residents have found a part of the dog within the fireplace. Yeah. And it was a car. I'm not entirely sure what weight or symbols that carries with them. But it appears to cause a lot of jubilation for them to discover that. Yeah. Again, if we can find a way out of here, that's great and all. But if we end up walking out of here with the murderer in our group, I still don't think we're all safe. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's different. Oh. Reject the residents. You must respect the residents. You must respect the residents. Wait.  From sickness? Yeah. Did they find all the body parts? I think they're still missing an arm. They're still missing an arm. People seem to think it's something around the couch. That's the name. Yes, I'm here. You guys haven't been here as long as we have. So, you know, you can give us some credit sometimes. You're actually living here in experience. Are you in your town? This is... You don't have to hear the voices. You don't have to live in here for more than two years. You've only been here for less than a year. Sometimes it's not just about fast and all. Sometimes it's about actually experiencing it and living it. You can learn a lot more that way sometimes. But you, the foundation members, they're always looked down on you. Who are the residents? Yes. Do we need to ask you? Are you on the order? I don't think that was a hyper-comment or anything. It was a metaphor. I don't know. What do you think, Don? Do you think that the foundation tends to look at... Okay. The children. The children. The children. It does. Now, we'll raise a little more. The children. The children are the future. The hopes. Okay. 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Hey, this is Brett, and this 2023 Ram 1500 Crew Cab Short Box Rebel Level II GT is stock number 23T26A. I'm here at Summit Automotive in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, you're new and used Ram and light duty truck headquarters. This 2023 Ram 1500 has the 5.7 liter V8 Hemi engine with the e-torque assist. It's paired up with the 8-speed automatic transmission. This truck has been fully safe eaten and inspected by our service shop. Has a fresh oil and filter change on the fluid tab and checked and topped off per the state of Wisconsin inspection process and is 100% ready to go. I'm going to go all the way around in this video, inside, underneath, start it up and take a look under the hood and go over all the options on this one. It's loaded up and Diamond Black is the color. I shoot all my videos in 4K and if you like the video you can subscribe to the YouTube channel which is youtube.com slash summit auto. Click the bell notifications and you'll get updates on the videos I do each and every day as well as having access to one of the largest catalogs of vehicle and light duty truck walk arounds on YouTube. This one comes with the 18 inch painted black alloy wheels. I believe it's also a night edition in addition to the Rebel GT, it's a night edition as well. Goodyear Wrangler Duratrack tires, LT27570 R18s and these tires I would say have probably about 80 to 90% of the tread left frame and under body you get the four-corner air suspension on this one and this truck is a one owner clean title history clean car fax from right here in Wisconsin, LED headlamps, LED running lights and LED fog lamps. Front bumper is in excellent condition, you get the front bumper parking sensors, the ram stamped grille, I'm going to turn all those lights on at the end of the video so you can see just how bright they are. The hood is in nice condition, I didn't see any major dents or dings on there, passenger side front fender is in nice shape as well. Passenger side wheel, little scuffs or scrapes and diamond black, it's got a lot of metal flake in it, a lot of gold flake, looks really good especially in the sunlight these things really pop. As you go down this side of this 2023 Ram 1500 take note of how clean that body is, how reflective and mirror like that paint is. I take these HD videos so if you're far away or even if you're close by and you just cannot make the trip down but you're still interested in purchasing the truck you can see the truck, hear the truck and have confidence in the vehicle that you're looking at before you even get here so when you do get here there's absolutely no surprises and you can make a smart and informed buying decision from wherever you're at. If this video helps you make that buying decision let your salesman know that you saw the video that it was helpful and that Brett sent you. Back wheel is in excellent shape and the back tires have just as much tread as the front tires, you get the plastic wheel well liners which is great because that keeps your frame and underbody looking like new, you get the nice powder coated running boards part of that Rebel level 2 package, fender flares on there you get the GT decals those look really good. LED tail lamps rear bumpers in great shape no denser dings than that backup parking sensors full towing package which includes a receiver hitch four pin and seven pin wiring the tailgate is in nice shape as well this is a power drop down tailgate shock down assist spray and bed liner so it's never gonna slam down on you and that bed liner goes on to the tailgate which is really nice as well shuts solidly and easily as you go down the driver side just as clean as that passenger side no major denser dings on the box and for full disclosure this back wheel is in excellent condition as well you do get the capitalist feel fill on the Rams now which is nice never get gas on your hands again and down the rest of the side of the truck doors and cab all look really good I didn't see any dense or dings anywhere on the truck heated mirrors blind spot monitoring blind spot mirrors directional signals take a quick look at the back seats for you in back you get the leather the two-tone leather the suede inserts no rips no tears on these seats power sliding rear window with the built-in rear defrost you get the speakers in the head or in the headliner seats are in really nice shape factor your all-weather formats back here you get two usb's two usb sees heated seat buttons and a hundred fifteen volt 400 watt plug-in these seats fold up there is a floor that can collapse and be a storage area under the all-weather floor mats you get in-floor storage with removable bins for easy cleaning to put ice drinks in there it's like you have too many coolers wherever you go or if you're non-wisconsin just extra storage space child safety locks on the back doors and the inside and bottoms of the doors all look really good as you'd expect on a 2023 take a look at the vins sticker here no Canadian trucks here tire and loading information sticker and inside the rebel level 2 package gives you the black leather the gray leather and the black suede interior I love that you get the GT stitched into the backrest that looks so good two-tone leather looks really good powers driver seat both these seats are heated and cooled memory driver seat and factory all-weather floor mats in front power pedals auto headlamps tilt telescopic steering wheel power windows locks mirrors you get the suede bolster and kind of a weird woodgrain trim and then you get the power folding mirrors I always like showing both sides so you know if both sides are working properly even though this truck is fully under warranty until 36,000 miles memory driver seat there as well hop inside check out the miles radio and everything that this truck has to offer on the interior you can see you get the big 12 inch LCD instrument cluster with the RPM and miles per hour or your tack and miles per hour digital speedometer time you can change those corners to read whatever you want looks really good you get this cool LED lights on the side this does have heads up display as well where you can see in the windshield your speed heated leather wrap steering wheel adaptive cruise controls regular cruise controls you got your paddle shifters there Bluetooth and information center controls you get audio controls in the back of that steering wheel push button start push button four-wheel drive you get axel lock speed select control start stop capabilities the big thing with the GT package is that you get the fully mechanical shifter on the center and console there so that's kind of neat and then you get the you connect 12 inch you connect five radio so it does have the factory navigation system excuse me there is highway 41 so that is working nicely you also get AM FM and Sirius XM radio capabilities Bluetooth Augs and USB jacks as well you get vehicle settings you got performance pages which are pretty cool you have all your different apps on here I'm not gonna go through everyone but go through each page so you can see what's all on here heated cooled seat buttons the nav phone Android Auto Apple CarPlay where you can project your cell phone to the screen we can check out the cameras here in just a second and you have your system other performance pages where you can do zero to 60 and all that cool stuff and then the cameras are right here you get the 360 camera on there your backup camera you can see just how crystal clear those cameras are you can do a full view wide view of the back a wide view of the front a narrow view of the front a normal view of the back you can also zoom in on that receiver hitch get hooked up to your boat camper trailer every time and then you also have your front camera your kind of your trail cam so as I turn that steering wheel you can see that those lines are dynamic and they change as I turn that so if you're on a trail or something that'd be really handy so that you're not going to hit any rocks or anything like that wreck your wheels and then you got an auxiliary camera that you can hook up so if you had like a boat or a trailer and yeah those are all your cameras right there so those are really really cool and that's pretty much it for the radio you have lane departure warning perpendicular parallel park assist factory brake controller you have your trailer steering assist your four-corner air suspension controls tow-haul mode factory stability control front of your parking sensors down here is your wireless cell phone charge pad and then you get two USBs Augs and two USB C's your shifter and then you don't lose your PowerPoint that's right down there that's 115 volt 400 watt plug-in here's your keyless entry with your remote start power drop down tailgate and lowering of the truck passenger side format and seat are in excellent condition as well this truck's never been smoked in and you get the second row fixed glass and the power sunroof in front this thing is fully loaded up you also get assist an SOS buttons map lights sunroof and sunshade controls and your power side where window controls and then you get the rear view mirror camera so that is a video display of what's going on behind you and you get your home link buttons for your garage door security systems and lighting systems that is a lot of stuff to go over alright let's start it up and take a look under the hood starts right up no check engine lights or anything like that I'm gonna turn on all the lights so you can see just how bright they are I think the GT package has a little bit different exhaust I think it sounds good check out those LED tail lamps LED license plate lights as well I would personally like thank you for checking out the video today and hopefully from this HD video you've been able to verify the quality condition options and of course cleanliness of this truck all the way around see you all those LED lights are extremely bright look really good under the hood we have the 5.7 liter V8 Hemi engine with the e-torque assist this one has the ram airflow on it that is what this thing is that's part of the GT package as well under the hood very clean once again this truck has been fully safety and inspected by our service shop as a fresh oil and filter change all the fluids have been checked and topped off and is 100% ready to go feel like they put everything on this side and nothing over here anyways there's the emission sticker and this truck is 100% ready to go I would highly recommend it from a quality and condition standpoint I'd ship this one to California Texas New York Florida whoever's gonna get it's gonna love it and to see more pictures of this truck or one of other 550 new and use cars trucks SCVs minivans wranglers half tons to quarter tons one tons you name it we got to go to the website with their summit auto dot com full pictures in and descriptions of every single vehicle all at summit auto.com if you'd like to check out more HD videos you can go to youtube.com slash summit auto click notifications you'll get updates in the videos I do each and every day as well as having access to one of the 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So right now we are participating in Clear the Shelters, which is a national annual event to help facilities like ours as well as other municipal shelters, and really anybody who's participating to pretty much clear out. We tend to be pretty overcrowded this time of year. We've got a lot of cats and dogs, puppies and kittens. So this event is a great opportunity to help us move some animals along into their forever homes. Just come on out. We are at 127 Humane Lane. We're here Monday through Friday and Saturdays. You come on and browse our adoptable pets if you're interested in one. Take it out. Spend some time with it. We've got a great staff up front that can go over any adoption counseling with anyone if they have questions or concerns. We also have some great resources to hand out. Shall someone decide to adopt if they're looking into any training opportunities or pet insurance resources, things of that nature as well.