All right, separate traders good morning and welcome on back here for another fantastic addition of our traders talk workshop here this Tuesday June 14th Shortly after 11 a.m. Eastern time great to see all of our students and members alike inside the cyber group room We have Robert Ron. We have Norman joining us once again Kurt John We have Yahuda joining us and Joanne a lot of us did really well here this morning on this rev trade So a big shout out to anyone that did very nicely on this stock But I want to shout out some names just in particular as we review this trade from head to toe But great to see all of us just joining us on social media Facebook live and YouTube today You know normally two or three times across the calendar year will to provide you our weekly traders talk workshop that is normally Exclusively done inside our live trading room So at the end of this workshop for all of us on social media if you were looking to continue with this going forward Just go right down to the link on the blue banner below to sign up for a trial membership tour live trading room And then from there you'll look to work with one of our one of our education advisors, but with that said I believe folks We are good to go Janice say she can't hear me inside the live trading room causing me a little paranoia But I believe I'm good from Ronald and Ron and Robert and everyone else otherwise So just give me a quick moment. Give me a quick moment folks Don't you need just a log out log back in otherwise, so we are good So folks really quickly for all of us in social media. My name is Josh Levitin I'm Fausto senior instructor here at Cybertrading University So I conduct our weekly trader stock workshop here in our live trading room alongside that our phase one and two stock course But if you have any questions going forward whether it be during this presentation live or on recording afterwards Send send over an email Josh at c2 training calm is my email So even after this workshop is complete on recording any questions that you may have stock trading crypto trading anything that we're talking about here Within this workshop email me and I'll have more I'll have more than enough time to write you back Don't worry about that but folks right now. We have a lot to talk about here So, you know first and foremost traders talk here is a quick introduction to this workshop You know, this is really the best outlet aside from the main actual curriculum that we provide as to knowing why a stock made the Exact move that it made right, you know, you you almost have to like You know put yourself in the shoes of a four-year-old or five-year-old or six-year-old, you know, why why did the stock go up? Why why did the stock make this exact move? Why? You know, you really need to as a student because the more that you do that in hindsight It should give you a better idea as far as what the stock will look to do live in the moment now Aside from just saying that you know, we do need to have a great screen time and just you know live market You know trading right we need to put pen to paper put practice to matter and with that You know, of course, we need to always just look to just try and trade as much as possible But with that though here in traders talk, this gives us the best chance to cover these moves So with that this morning in particular, I was personally following like two stocks at first, you know I'm Tagging in for Fausto this morning. He's out on business in Florida. He'll be back on Thursday So it's hard for me to juggle a lot of things at once, right?  So I wasn't crept up as I normally am So I was only focused on two stocks going into the market open today and then really out of nowhere We'll get to those two stocks But I just want to sum up my morning personally to you and then we'll go over the cold We'll go over the RE V trade, but you know the natural gas short ETF cold We ended up seeing this thing explode So with that this caught my eye right before the market opened There's a lot moving here going into the opening bell folks So it was pretty hard personally for me to buckle down on you know just not just one stock But the perfect setup at the right time So ultimately and we'll get to RE V in a bit I ended up missing the RE V trade, you know, we were calling it out right out the gate You know at 9 38 in the morning and I'll show all of us on social media the dialogue the chats We have from inside our live trading room the callouts the students that have made money on it so far today But you know, it's just that we were on top of this RE V trade as far as calling it out from the get go Me personally with juggling so much that I have this morning my own trading calling out things You know just I'm doing the whole you know audio myself. That is pretty tough I missed out on it. I missed out on the RE V trade personally myself It's a shame So with that I had to adjust I felt as if I'd be chasing the RE V trade if I got in from when I first looked at it So, you know, the more I pushed up the more I missed out on it, obviously But I personally had to adjust So that's where I had to more so stick with the two or three stocks Or symbols that I took the time to focus on and prep and chart I can't let anything else get in my way Right because you know, I am prepped up on k alv I am prepped up on neo, which was up like 6 or 5 percent. I believe in pre market But you know with that though as much as I missed out on RE V I can't let anything else become a distraction to me, right? In terms of trader psychology that that's huge because there's so much moving on this one screen to begin with You know, I always like to generalize it and say the fast moving numbers the bright colors on the screen Then all the call outs that we're making inside the live trading room that are popping up on our scanners And then on top of that just you know, the whole strategy that we need to focus on and incorporate and and apply So there's a lot to focus on in one moment here, right? So personally I started off on the k k alv trade My morning all together was fairly so so Uh k avl my traders dyslexia here. I'm sorry k avl k avl There we go So this stock ran in after hours yesterday. It's cheap. It was really liquid in pre market If I were to ask all of us inside the live trading room Hey, you know, what stock were you most interested in following going into the open, you know for a pre market leading into the open I bet you all have half half of us saying the the h usa trade Then half of us saying k avl. That's just my shoot from the hip guess, right? Well, you know with this rightfully so every one of us should have been focused on it going into the open But this was teasing a big break of support to begin with So with that once the market opened it finally snapped off from that 250 level You know, I was calling out support and pre market on this trade off of 235 So with that it led to a small bounce at first I ended up getting an entry off at 235 exactly and with that it pushed up I took half my money out right at 240. It's the type of stock you could trade a lot of shares of thankfully So you know just take a small profit to begin with And transparently enough I was down yesterday. I took a it took a losing day yesterday Well, actually one of my first in the last two and a half three weeks I was down 168 by the end of the day now in the grand scheme That's not life changing money that I lost and compared to the last few days. Thankfully enough knock on wood It's all right, but I better make sure i'm in the plus today. Like it's not often I have a losing day So, uh, you know today I'm definitely more keen to take my nickels and dimes take my tiny profits and move on with my morning Right the more I do that then I'll have a cushion to try and take myself to my day's pay level at $1,000 day If not a lot more So there I ended up taking half out very quickly and then I let the other half go break even So I let the other half just go completely break even off 235 But from there look at it now this thing completely is the it is in the dumps So it's easy to say but this is the the exact reason why you can't just buy the news And just hope the stock to run up right because good news came out on the stock I believe this morning early in pre-market So with that led to the score from after hours I believe yesterday You know, which led to a nice push in pre-market at first But you know ended up continuing to drop off after the open and with that It's only been a great short if you're able to get the shares It's hard to borrow my platform But you know ever since like I stopped looking at it even after it It was kind of like teasing the move back up here, you know Just in our audio broadcast in our live trading room for all those that were there and watching and listening You know, you heard me adamantly say I'm not a believer in this year where my cursor is right there I'm not a believer. We were finishing up the audio commentary, right? I was jumping on a coaching call with one of our students and adamantly I was saying I am not a believer here because it was already at resistance It needed to flip resistance into support and it already moved up a decent amount from the low there I just was expecting a lower high and nonetheless not only did we get the lower high But obviously only continued to drop off a lot more. So this actually broke below my next support level I have on my other screen that was off of 211 208 and I didn't even watch it from there I didn't jump in I didn't focus on it when I was on my coaching call with my student We were watching queen base time But uh, nonetheless, I mean maybe right now this is in due for a bounce, you know, it's had a whole number So maybe during this trader stock workshop, it could make that beginning squeeze up Maybe, you know looking at the trend off the highs. It certainly doesn't seem like it wants to right But um, you know, it's had a whole number and for as much as it dropped already When will it begin to bounce? So you were asking that question at the open, but obviously the more drops, you know, that's where you anticipate All right, well, this should make at least a decent move So you don't want to keep thinking that the whole way and not focus on anything else, obviously, right? You know alongside k k a k avl My traders my traders dyslexia there, you know, aside from the k avl trade I was following neo and I also took a small profit on neo over the morning Um, you know, ultimately missed out on rev which again, we'll get back to we'll do the full e to z review We'll bring a book mat for the rev trade in a bit But yeah, the k k avl trade obviously right now. It doesn't look too great. Maybe off of two bucks. This could bounce coming up Um, and then neo is the other one. Thankfully enough neo has been a great trade today long great move Uh, you know spy obviously beginning to pull back a little bit, you know lower here at this point or you know about to You're going completely against the grain So this stock we were following in pre market alongside li which is another chinese e v stock I don't know what's going on with the chinese stocks today. I don't know if they're all pushing up collectively It looked like at the market open, you know, the the china market was at first But it's pretty flat now But yeah, neo made a really good move earlier this morning And thankfully this was just one of the other two or three symbols I personally took the time to chart and prep myself up for so although I missed out on rev I didn't let anything else get in my way.  I actually missed the slingshot on this as I was following that last one So I wish I could tell you off of 1650. I got in or even off of 17 when it re broke here This was a great setup that led to an easy easy pop The more this squeezed up I was anticipating support So I know this could be easy to say just looking at the chart afterwards, but I ended up charting alongside alongside 17 1734 as a major support level that was the weekly close. I believe from the prior week So talking about like closing bell prints and whatnot, you know, just looking at the the week here. It looks like 1808 1814 here I think maybe from past I charted 1734 is a key weekly Support level so that once it broke above it it pulled back and fortunately enough It wasn't on the largest share size It wasn't on a full-sized position because it was like kind of an assumptive Position to take but you know, hey thankfully it worked out where it ended up running up really nicely I ended up getting out on this trade over 1760. I just didn't want to you know waste the profit from that point So obviously pushed up a lot more after but a couple of things just to point out to here Again before we dig into the rev in full In terms of my personal morning Even with the experience I have and you know intuition and you know, hey I do the same song and dance every single day with you folks every day So I should have a pretty good morning the more that you do this And the exact process that we go through in class of finding your smart money levels And prepping them up early in pre-market Well, not every day is going to be the same You'll have better mornings than others or better afternoons than others or some days may even be a losing day Like yesterday But you have to learn from your mistakes You have to get yourself in a position to start taking some smaller profits at first You know, you start getting your cushion money at first and then you could try and extend trades later on So, you know, right now, obviously we're doing traders talk if it was any other week day of the week I would be trading at this very point with the student coaching You know, it's possible that I'd still be trading neo here I'm sure there's going to be another trade for me later on today. I can care less, you know, it's a it's a marathon Not a sprint, right? So there's always going to be another move for us to call out inside our live trading room And with that, we'll see where this trade takes us alongside others You know, we'll jump to the k old etf in a bit. That's also another one I ended up trading that was when I took with a student on a coaching call just earlier Before we started the traders talk workshop If we have enough time, we'll get to that because there is something I do want to cover on that Actually, it wasn't cold. It was actually it's inverse ticker ung ung I believe that was so um ung and we ended up trading based off of cold But um, let's go into the main attraction here. Obviously neo is doing a really good job pushing up still But the rev Oh my goodness rev was, you know, hey just another day another runner where a stack breaks over 100% gain on the day So not out of the ordinary for us inside our live trading room But I just it's crazy to have happen as fast as it does, right? So this thing just out of nowhere shortly after the market opened up ended up making an initial move And then from there, well it dumped off, but then it ended up actually re breaking higher a bit later on So what I want to do here is I want to show you the full a to z chat that we have inside our live trading room I normally don't do this just during traders talk But you know, we're doing this on youtube and facebook live today So, you know just for a small glimpse to see, you know the chat, you know What what we're talking about inside our live trading room day to day This will be a microcosm of that, but this is exactly what we do So at first at 9 0 5 in the morning norman one of our students made 11 cents on it when I was doing the morning meeting There's off 150 So really at first one of our students was on it initially then Then after the market opened at 9 38 I said r e v moving up And then at 9 55 like we were already following it just I I re-typed it in the trading room because there's some riffraff that gets in between So, you know, I recall it out r e v But really from there students like robert students like, you know, michael joe I have to give joe a big shout out today. You know, he made 72 cents on it. I believe Nina got about 55 cents on it joe Joanne had a 400 dollar profit enough to pay her electric bill across two houses I recall she wrote in the trading room So, you know, we a lot of us did really well on this trade throughout the day So I want to give a big shout out to those students and anyone else that you know Hey, you don't need to post your profit in the room You know if you made money on this trade and our gun shy or you know, whatever the case may be But if you did well on this trade in our trading room Congratulations. Let's go over this thing though in full. Why did we call this out and you know What price levels were we focused on this trade? So, um, you know, that that's really the premise here of our of our weekly trader stock workshops All right, so at 938 I had called it out there at first norman made the first profit on it off 150 But really at 938 I want to show you what level four looks like right now I want to show you what book map aka level four would look like right at that very point in time So how could we anticipate this rev move before it actually happens? Not every stock gives you the time that rev gave us for for us to anticipate the move You know, there are some stocks that just completely explode. They halt within a second and that's it, right? So we know that there's not as much time on those stocks All right, well even beginning in pre-market this had some good activity, you know, it's laying over 150 152 here it seems like So, um, you know after the open at least, you know, this is when I had first called it out when it was just moving up I just wrote it in the trading room rev moving up. That's it. Nothing fancy now from there. Let me ask you From basically where my cursor is This is when we had first called out rev So from where my cursor is What's the first iceberg resistance that we have on rev? For bill and jenice and uh, robert and norman and curt nyohuda and nina and all this year What's our first iceberg resistance looking at level four? And for all of us on youtube, how about this? Why don't you uh answer as well if you if you if you know Any one of us on youtube knows uh feel more than free to answer Got rizvana got carol nina jenice norman all answering inside our live trading room So, you know, I would say 171 here 170 ish Give me a quick second. I don't know what the heck just happened there. Pardon me Gotta reset this. Give me a quick moment Ah just lost my space but all good So i was going to hit towards 170 right 170. There's about 10 000 shares on the ask It might look very tough to read if you're unfamiliar with book map or level four I'm going to try and re expand it here and make it look better But you could see the orange line at 170 And right to the right of that line. You could see about 10 000 shares. That's currently there roughly at 170 So that is our first resistance as this initially made its first, you know, pop And when we first called it out 170 was the first resistance to watch at the time So I believe right then and there ended up shaking back down Right and at that point we kind of write it off We kind of write it off at that point because you know If it just moves up to resistance and then drops and then like just completely pulls back like this Much more often than not like we're moving on to other traits the neos out there the You know coin bases out there that were popping at the time the red boxes So really like we didn't really call this stock out again up until like 952 953 When it was beginning to push back up a lot higher. So right then and there well, hey pushing back up Here's our 170 resistance now for us our best entries to buy a stock Are directly after it breaks through a big level On the way up, right? That's that's that's the motto. That's my you know campaign slogan if I ever run for president here Best entries to buy a stock are directly after it breaks through a big level On the way up now I jokingly say that because you know, I'm very redundant with that catchphrase, right? You hear that every week in traders talk you hear that every month in class coaching sessions So here if this breaks above that orange line at 170 I would like to think it would give the stock a pretty good chance to try and run up a lot higher Now there are other orders for the stock to try and break above here at 180 and 182 And the more we look maybe two bucks here or like 197 You know this order isn't as big or nor this one, but you know, maybe 180 could be resistant So no guarantee But 170 is the first big resistance for us to work with on this trade And again, we had called this out before this ended up running over that that price So you know you have to try and find your levels first, but it popped above that resistance And very quickly it flipped it into a support, right notice it came down here the Green and red squiggly lines here are just basically the stock moving up and down. That's the bid in the ask So that's the movement of the trade. Well, it held above 170 resistance turned into support So with that, I mean, I'd be pretty keen to jump in directly after it breaks through the level on the way up right Now I think that answers one of our questions live inside the trading room from rizwana, you know, based on level four How can the resistance we find out the resistance? So we just answered that looking at the orange line right here But then also asking should we keep waiting? So that that's my motto, right when it breaks through a big level on the way up directly after immediately after Now it's not as black and white as that, you know, if trading was that easy You know, none of us would be here, right? If for every time that I bought a stock directly after it broke through a big level on the way up that I made the perfect trade I wouldn't be here So that's where I say there's a lot more to it than that. But that is our underlying philosophy That is our whole underlying philosophy, right? Uh, now there's some more questions coming in on in the inside the live trading room So I'm going to get to those in just a bit from jenice and also uh, rizwana and louis Perhaps, you know, louis saying set a stop at the breakthrough Definitely that I mean that's a huge talking point, right? You know, so it's not just as easy as you know, just jumping in kicking your feet back and sipping your margarita, right? I don't have margarita here, but uh five o'clock somewhere, right? But uh, nonetheless the stock ended up making the push you want to set your stop though directly under that big level, right? Not literally a penny, but you try and give yourselves a little cushion room And we have a whole class within the phase two curriculum that talks about setting stops risk management taking profits, right? nonetheless resistance flipped into support The rest was pretty much history this stock ended up running up so fast where it ended up getting halted at one point I believe, right So this just kept going And that's where I told you that I missed out on the stock because I missed it from the 170 level Personally, I was following other stocks and that's okay. You know, I can't follow every stock under the sun, right? So, you know You can't I can't and there's no need to we just need to follow the ones that we feel give us just a pretty damn Good chance at making money We have to find our levels and with that, you know, hey rv took off So for students like nina that got in at 180 Well, it took off and she was able to hold on and she got out at 233 Uh joe joe was in the trade from two bucks. I think right? He answered that uh during the audio broadcast But you know, he got stopped out on the trade at 272. I think he made a 72 cent profit Uh, this is afterwards. So we're gonna talk about the halts coming up So, you know, just we'll we'll talk about you know, robert sentry joe and and robert again, you know, just you know going over this but I you know, even from 170 180 190 this just kept giving and you can't always expect that so thankfully for joe Thankfully thankfully for nina not only did they make money on it, but they made good money on it They made like respectable days pay type of income on one trade, right? Now even if they didn't make that money so to say, you know, let's say if they're trading 100 shares, right and they make 50 cents a share All right. Well, let's do a lot more of this because the more of this you do I'm pretty certain you'll have the confidence to gracefully increase your share size, right? So what works on 100 shares works on a thousand shares So even when the stock got halted I was telling joe and nina right then Hey, if you're up like, you know that that money that 50 censor, you know 60 cents however much it may be and you're not normally up that much on one position Who the hell cares if it moves up any higher after you get out You know, so when it reopened up, that's when joe got out. That's when nina got out You know, it pushed up a little bit higher after right so ultimately. Hey, you know made a great It move and there was actually a lot more to give on this trade So let's talk about the halt right now and then from there I know I have a lot of questions coming in from the chat board here really briefly from jenice and others So, you know, I'll get to the chat here in just a bit But when the stock gets halted, what do we do? Well, we have to find our levels when the stock gets halted It's based it's likely because it moved up too much too fast. It's called a circuit breaker halt Updown volatility halt they call it so essentially there's about five minutes time in order for the stock to reopen So you have time to find your levels Really quick and again, we're going to get to the questions here in a bit. I'm not going to I'm not ignoring them But really quick for all of us just in the trading room all of us in youtube. Hey answer this as well In terms of finding your iceberg orders very general question What very common set of price levels are we most likely to find the big iceberg orders at? You know, hey, we had the iceberg here at 170 and it took off But just generally speaking what common set of price levels are we most likely to have big iceberg orders located? Yeah, a whole number of levels and and in this case for a cheap stock like this too 50 cent price levels whole number price levels and 50 cent price levels So how about this really quick? I'll I'll peel this back You know peel this back up here in a bit But when this ends up, you know moving up so much that it gets halted Well, we have time to find our levels. So Let's just draw a line at two. Let's draw a line at 250. Let's draw a line at three Let's just let's just see how those levels played out throughout the day second here And we have a bunch of questions to get through not just through the chat But also through email folks, but we're probably going to go a little bit over on on time. I have no problem doing that here today All right, so two two fifty three Now also something else that was like pretty interesting. Let me bring this back up if I can bring this back up Before this stock got halted Maybe more for more of us inside the live trading room. You could answer this one For you know before the stock got halted Is there anything in particular that you see otherwise? Maybe not a line going across the screen folks Maybe not a line going across the screen, but Is there something in particular that you notice on this screen before it got halted Before it got halted anything that you notice here on the heat map on level four Lewis says in iceberg bill says lots of selling at 266 Uh Bill I agree on that. Yeah, that's that's a great point That's a very good point. How about that? I like that Uh, but something easier on the eyes to see Something that is on the heat map not one of the columns that you would normally look at otherwise And it's not one of the lines again. That's just the hint. I'll give you it's not a line But it's on the heat map I can't here joining us perhaps one of our trial members saying spread widens Well, that's also true when when you see a halt. So good point correct Not not what i'm looking for. It's actually easier on just something else There we go. There we go from rod one of my coaching students here And then robert follows up shortly behind him saying big selling ball big red volume dot What the heck is this? now With the data box that pops up here don't focus on anything aside from where it says volume And it says 118,996 at 205 That right there shows you that we have a pretty big cell print a pretty big print on the tape It was technically filled on the bid. So technically we here at c2 call that a cell print so to say So, you know that is pretty big 118,000 shares Think about it compare that size just you know, let's just do a quick eyeball test folks Let's look at the orders that are currently on level three as the stock is moving live right now 20,018,090 100 uh, what's bigger those or you know 118,000 shares 119,000 so When this stock got halted We had time to look that up. That's the point, right? You know when the stock got halted we had time to identify that on the heat map There there was a giant red dot there that was you know pretty easy on the eyes to see I thought So that in its own right could be a strong level that is a big level for us to follow Going forward on this trade now We'll see if it ends up coming down to 205 later on or not But when a stock does get halted it takes a few minutes for it to reopen up And when it reopens up much like at the market open for any of my phase two students that are uh, you know with us monthly Well, you would know that we would have what's called the opening print Well here we have a very similar dot to what we actually had just before the halt Uh, right here is when it reopened up This is a similar size transaction. It's 111,000 plus shares And the price is at 267 All right, so 267 is a level Right, that's a pretty big level There's one more level that I see here We'll plot just those two lines and then we'll kind of see how it looks like on the trade station chart but Alongside, you know three bucks as a whole number I find it interesting that you know, hey before this stock got halted and even after the halt a bit after Right around 312. I think that is At three dollars and 10 cents three dollars and 12 cents see that I mean, obviously you have an orange line that goes across the screen there But it's about 20,000 shares on the ask So, you know, hey that that could be pretty big too, right? So we'll draw a line at 267 And we'll draw a line at 312. All right, so I'm going to peel back the the book map here the level four Just uh, we'll go over it again if we need to I have some questions coming in the chat board a lot of them In fact, so we'll get through everything here just in a bit So 267 is one of those two lines that I'd mentioned that's where we saw the uh opening Print when it reopened up from the halt And then this one I'll just make blue to just denote like an iceberg level Maybe not as big as a 50 set level a whole number, but Let's see what happens here 312, right 312 all right So what happened to rev when this reopened up from its halt? This is the question that we're answering right now Well, it ended up popping back up a little bit higher later on It moved all the way up to Well, it broke above 312, but it basically hit that top resistance line that we just drew at 312 Uh, essentially a false breakout from there, right? Um one quick rule just very general rule here and again, I'm going to go through all these questions in the chat board here a bit but um The more and more and more and more the stock moves up Not only do you become more reluctant on jumping in because you think it's going to pull back But one common rule is that the more and more and more a stock goes up For the first time it's testing a key iceberg resistance or key resistance You should expect the false breakout So the more this pushes up after it reopens. Well, hey at three bucks. I would have expected a false breakout from there I mean, you could just say from 312 from that top iceberg order that we just charted Well, it broke above it But obviously it came right back down It's a false breakout from that level and hey, maybe if it held better in terms of in in direction You know if it held above 250 better and moved back up to three, you know at this time of the day And it retested 312 later on Well, you know the more and more buying that we have off of that specific price You would expect for that to lead to a big reaction a big pop hopefully and from there if you to take the trade Uh, you know, but otherwise though to go through some questions here in the chat board We're gonna basically analyze this move just you know as we answer these questions So i'm gonna scroll all the way up right now Give me a quick moment. All right, so from rizwan I think we'd answered this just a moment ago based on level four. How can the resistance levels be? You know discovered or identified by following the orange or red lines that are horizontally, you know Going across that heat map there, uh, and if they're there, you know across a long period of time You would be led to believe they're there for a reason, right? They're you know, they're a strong point of resistance or support otherwise if it's below where the stock is trading uh From chenise asking is this uh, is this book map used only on the naztac? So book map is the name of the program officially You can go to book map.com if you have thinkorswim you could actually contact them for again The name is book map. Uh, you'll hear us refer to it as level four perhaps Uh, book map has data from naztac, but it also has data from another ecn called the edgx the direct edge edgx ecn so it's two and I spoke with One of the main guys from book map actually last week on monday bruce great guy He's presented at our trader summit numerous times. So probably be back here in october No, uh, no official plans on that yet, but i would assume he'll be back, but Uh, some pretty interesting news regarding the data for book map coming up folks interesting as in Pretty exciting.  So Uh, some interesting stuff on the up and up for level four So rizwan was asking basically just before are these buying levels? They can be buying levels They can be so first you want to identify just you know where the big levels are from the heat map from the order books From the big transactions that were already filled. That is what creates these levels alongside that just you know Assumed levels, you know, even if there is not a big iceberg or big red line at a 50 cent level or whole number You would certainly want to assume for those to be at least big supporter resistance Hence the blue lines But they could be levels now. What is what does that mean? Right? Like that doesn't give you much clarity Well, think about it this way if your best entries to buy a stock aren't directly after it breaks through a big level On the way up. Well, let me just try and blow this up briefly here You know granted after it pulled back here, right? Think about after the pullback because the more it goes up You're definitely expecting a shake down. So where could we find support? That's the question that you could ask Well, as it pulls down from 312 and 3 Our first key level to try and anticipate support is at 267 try Now with that said If that's support or if we're looking for that to be support We would need for that to essentially not just hold above the level But for us to take this entry Me in particular I like to wait to see it actually slam under the level But if it breaks right back over the level if it breaks right back over the level I will look to take that trade and then have it tight stop set So with this there is a point where it breaks under the level If for being a really official here about this it actually closes under that line Which I don't really care as much for but you know, it just goes to show on the next bar It clearly breaks back above the level and right here on the green bar ideally enough Like I would look to take that trade if I was watching this at the time If I was really intent on trading rev at the time, which I wasn't, you know, I could see myself Taking this exact trade Did it lead me to a would it lead me to a great trade? No Would it be a good entry? If you're getting in right over 267 like one or two pennies three pennies above the level and you're not chasing it I'd give you a good grade on the entry.  No So if I get in and this stack doesn't make the move I want it to make I mean best get out Because one of my common catchphrases which you know again like you hear this all the time and traders talk weekly So, you know for all of us in social media, you know, this is something that we do on a week-to-week basis here When a stock breaks through a big level Generally speaking You should see a pretty big move shortly after Think about that very abstract general catchphrase But when it breaks under and over right here If I were to jump in right here at 268 269 I better be getting a pretty big move shortly after Now how big is big right? That's the next question. Well, you know, hey, if I can get back up to three I I'd be content. We'd see where it would go from there Right You know, that's my next level. So, you know, I'll play it level to level here Why can't this be the next red box?  It could be Or it could have been I don't think it is now Uh, we'll see I doubt it now at this point But you know, it's just to say like right where my cursor here is the green that would have been a great entry But you don't control the stock if it, you know, if we're not going to see as much buying on the trade Guess what it's going to make a big move.  You know, it was teasing us. I'm sure so I moved on from this trade earlier I missed out on the big run Is it possible that one could have jumped in from 250 and got out at 267 here easily easily And then the stock thankfully has a liquid order book. So it gives you that ability.  It's teasing us Well, hey, what if it does break above 250 here or namely even 267 for the times it's teased the buying Teased the buying here and you know, although it led to an sd shake You're seeing buying for every instance. It's breaking above 67 How much buying, you know, you have to look on book map for the heat map or at least level three if you have it Um, but you know, obviously if it doesn't break 250 here, then there's no trade I would only expect this to like really pull back further, you know, pull back down closer to 205 Uh question from Rizwana. Can we see these big red dots ahead of time on book map? Well, they come in real time So, you know, that's where I was really harping on the fact that when this stock got halted How could you prep the levels beforehand? Oh, there we go. There's our shake down held 250 like a magnet didn't break 250 Now a big old shake lower. Yeah, we could see this definitely dropped down to 205 than otherwise. We'll see uh I think that's pretty much it from the chat board so far for any one of us on youtube or facebook live If you have any questions feel more than for you to chat me right now I have a bunch more to go through though from email. So, you know for dana and rosina and Egan, I think we have a few questions just from email that I want to make sure I cover So all in all long story short so far across the day You don't need to catch the craziest biggest sexiest looking stock in order to make your day's pay You just need to be very grounded on the stocks that you took the time to prep At least before the market opens, you know, you should be at your trading desk by like eight o'clock eastern time No later really than a 30 eastern time every morning, you know, so if you're at your desk then in there And if you're not like really swinging for the fences and pre-market Then you really need to be taking your time to identify these levels beforehand And you know, it gives you a better ability to focus on the underlying philosophy It gives you a better ability to you know try and focus on when it breaks through a big level on the way up All right So give me a quick sec folks. I'm actually kind of trying to cross my t's here because i'm even going through my spam folder right now I Got a couple that unfortunately landed in there from jenice and bill Give me a quick second just readjusting. All right, so let's start off here. We got from egan I believe he wanted me to go over a trade. I believe I think he had and you know what I want to just jump back on something for all this life inside the trading room because you just heard me Shout out his name there. I would normally make all trade reviews pretty anonymous here, but I'll tell you what Egan had a pretty good trade here So I want to give him a nice shout publicly Egan's one of our uh gold students here inside our live trading room and he's been doing a few coaching sessions with me over the last month or so The AERC trade he ended up taking two trades on Um, I don't know if this is from yesterday or the day before I believe it would be from yesterday Monday, right? So he ended up taking two trades on this stock did pretty nice He was in from 12 72 Got out at 13 20 made nearly 50 cents on that trade and then he took a second one In from 17 55 much later on is a you know skyrocketed up and got out at you know 17 71 So smaller trade there, uh, you know, this is the thing with AERC, right? Like again, not every stock could be AERC that you know Over the last seven eight trading days went from three update 18 and change, right? So, you know, you don't want to hold your breath waiting for that move But this is the type of stock that you know unless if you really get in low and are like straight up gambling You know, let's just be honest with ourselves. Like if you're in from like Five bucks and it runs up to 18 and you've been holding on the whole way through You're literally gambling just you know looking for the home run, right? So, you know This is the type of stock that you're like Strategically otherwise trying to get in get out in and out not to say scalp per se But based on level to level right and if you're up a decent amount That's where you should just be more comfortable to take the profit ahead of time than not So with this trade Egan ended up getting in yesterday. He ended up getting in let me go back on his email. Sorry Uh 12 72 out at 13 20. So I can't do the full a-to-z review on this trade like I did on the rev Just a time constraint here briefly But we'll show the heat map will you know bring it up at least to see what it looked like after the market opened up for this trade See if I can get this All right, so I'm gonna try and zoom in here pretty briefly So the AERC stock was one that we were watching going into yesterday morning You know it was pretty active early on but it's just to say it was one from the last week that Obviously took off. So how could we not follow it again? You know at some point throughout the morning So, you know, it took off pretty quickly and from there it got our attention Uh, you know, it was dropping off leading into the market open You know kind of flat dropping off a little bit there in pre-market So it was kind of unassuming at first when it took off But that's where you have to try and anticipate So at first it looks like it ended up breaking above 1250 Uh, it looks like you had a pretty big resistance around 14 You could also say 1370 ish 1375 ish. You can call that perhaps But um with 1250 it broke above 1250 resistance And it ran right just simply put it broke above 1250 and it ran right Quick question for all of us here live inside the trading room When a stack breaks above resistance and it runs from it Resistance turns into what? Getting a dry mouth here a lot of talk here to begin my week Six hours, you know five hours 30 minutes yesterday talk time and today I think I got four hours and 30 minutes Resistance turns into support right now. I love the comment that ron has here at the end Sometimes sometimes now to be more clear though, right to be more clear because sometimes it's like ambiguous It's like ah, it's uncertainty there. Maybe maybe not then. What's the point of even talking about this then? When a stock breaks above resistance and it runs from it Resistance should turn into support the first time the first time So you can't rely on 1250 to repetitively be support Actually, the more times it tests that as support, you know needles it over and over it should just slam under it And tank so when it breaks above resistance and it runs from it Resistance should turn into support the first time So ultimately let's see what happened here across the day. Obviously this thing took off and made a really big push It broke above resistance It pulled back. It wasn't 1250 as much that held. It was more just the vwap in purple But it looks like egan had entered, you know, roughly around this area here shortly after it broke above the 1250 And fortunately for him, he was able to get out just a good profit 50 50 cent profit roughly, you know It got out when it broke above 13 took his profit at 13 20 Um, you know, he didn't trade it afterwards or at least up until the afternoon So I find that pretty interesting because you know, hey, you know, maybe he's maybe egan's not here all day You know is bigger and better things to do than be at his desk. I'm sure most of us do So with that, you know stepped away perhaps and it ran up a lot more Maybe he was watching it. Who knows? But it's just to say that he came back to this trade a lot later on And ended up trading this when it was at like 1750 and change So egan, let me ask you really quickly because I know you're tuning in live in the trading room What was the time of your second entry if you recall or what was the time of the second entry? Book map here looks a little you know choppy and a little fuzzy to read So I'm actually going to peel this back and make it a little bit easier on the eyes to show the regular chart But egan got in on the second trade at 17 55 It took a smaller profit, but you know, I'm just interested in seeing the time in which he got in on that one because Uh, you know, obviously it was a pretty tough trade after the initial run and you can't keep expecting this to push So, you know, the more it runs out of steam You definitely expect this pullback. So thankfully egan made money on the second trade, right? Says, uh, sorry don't have it yet. No problem. No problem.  Nope. No sweat there With that at least, you know, just 17 50. Well, it seems like either got in right here Which would like make like a really small scalp trade if anything Or just here at this point because otherwise, you know, it begins to push above 50 And the more it needles that resistance you hope to see continuation You hope for that. So, you know truth be told and easy to say in hindsight perhaps, but 17 50 was holding pretty nice as a chart level Sands the false, you know break here But that's a good sign the more false breaks that you know, you could see continuation So if egan got in like right here off of 17 50 like kind of like right where my cursor is I would give him a pretty good grade on the entry right pretty good grade now Granted, you know, fortunately made money right got out with the profit Uh, if he ended up taking a loss on this trade, I would have said, you know It's an it's an all right entry right where my cursor is The question is though is that if it's not going to make that big move higher like you would hope for it to do You can't only rely on hope, right? You need to set your stop So with that, jeez if you don't set your stop on this trade branded if you don't get get out with a profit like egan did That's a nasty drop. So Trust me when I tell you When a stock breaks through a big level Much more often than not you're going to be seeing a very big move Shortly after You've got to set your stop tight So if you don't take a huge hit, right? That's like the purpose of a big level. You don't want to be stuck on the wrong side of the move though All right, so let's see if we keep going through my email inbox folks. We'll go an extra 10 minutes about that All right, so from Rosina here one of our new trial members perhaps just had a a list of stocks You're actually for me, but uh, oh, there's one Rosina. I apologize there So just from our trading room just had a different spelling just from email Which threw me off briefly. So I apologize there. So uh question question from Rosina here, uh with Pandemic stocks and requesting for me to review and guide them on how to get out of them since they are 84 percent down Good advice to resume my money so Loosely speaking because we are not financial advisors We are not legally able to tell you to buy or sell a stock at a specific price or time, right?  It's the fdc actually more than anything. So, um, you know We're always compliant here and that's always what we've been saying Now, of course just to actually give uh, Rosina here some some advice so you know If if they're down 80 if your positions are down 84 percent then You know at this point you may as well hold on right and like, you know If you don't care for it to drop down 84 percent and to still hold on you may as well hold on to another You know a few percent more Now that's a blunt answer, right? Now it's to say that history could repeat itself Not with covet. Uh, uh, hopefully not with covet I mean, I guess it can have repeat itself with covet, right? But history could repeat itself in the sense of news and a short squeeze and for this to make a temporary run back up So if that's what you're waiting for Just realize what has happened in the past and not just with covet Look back on the monthly chart. Look back on the weekly chart. Look back on the daily chart For any time this stock has had good news out on it ocgn because we we love this stock. It's a good stock to day trade I'm not a good swing trade apparently, right? So, uh, you know, it's a good stock to day trade off of news But it's to say that over the years this stock has had some really good squeezes in the past Should that happen in the near future? for whatever reason Just realize what's going to happen to it again history is going to repeat itself this thing will tank after the pump so You know Obviously not to name names, but over my eight years of being here and being an instructor with Fausto I've coached hundreds if I don't know I don't have a head count here So I'm not going to say thousands and act as if I'm bigger than I'm not but it could be in the thousands You know definitely in the hundreds I have coached hundreds and hundreds of our students here and You know for the folks that I see that continue to hold on to day trades overnight It's a bad mistake to make repetitively And it's a shame because they they don't seem to learn their mistakes here. And you know, if that's the case Could I just ask And honestly, I'm like, we just got to face reality at times, right? Could I just ask like, you know, if you don't learn from those mistakes over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again What's the point Aren't you just gambling? Come on now So, you know, we're here to make our days pay. We're here to make supplemental income, right? You know, it's funny. I phrased in the trading room earlier this morning like for uh For joanne, I think right joe. Joanne made 400 bucks on The rev trade and she actually phrased it in a great way said like hey, I just paid like my electric bill on two houses That's awesome, right?  Some of us get it right away within a month a few weeks Uh, you know, some of us take a couple months, you know, the light bulbs will start popping up there turning on But if you weren't consistently holding on to day trades overnight And you're not learning from that lesson and you're down thousands of your, you know, hard earned money I just would suggest for you to quit not not see to you as just in particular. I would say trading as a whole like stock market Because you're you're just completely gambling if you're doing that, you know as a new student Yeah, you're gonna learn the hard way a couple times. I'm sure and that's why we always encourage new students At least to trade small positions 100 shares 50 shares Like Fausto says one stinkin share, right? Just to get the feel just to know the strategy The more that you do it the the better you get the better you get the more money that you would like to risk Now at the end of the day, are we still like You know risking money are we, you know Taking risky trades. Yeah times, you know some volatile stocks I'm wrong on trades at times I had my first losing day in the last two and a half three weeks Like I said at the top of the hour yesterday was down 168 bucks. I believe by the end of the day It's tough. Some days aren't going to work out, right? But you got to make sure that you learn from the hard mistakes and never repeat those You're going to make bonehead mistakes every now and then you're always going to make a bonehead mistake or two every now and then and the the more that you're here with us and the more that you're learning and progressing Those bonehead mistakes you make fewer and fewer over time. So Uh, you know for the mistakes I made yesterday, which weren't many. I just chose the wrong stocks to follow at first Uh, because of that, I didn't really make much money and then I just had losing trades So for the tiny losing trades that accrued you learn from them and you take that into the next day. That's all That's all we could try and do right So for ocgn long story short Is this going to squeeze back up at some point in time? I'm sure at some point in time But we don't hold our breath waiting for that though. And if you're already in this position and down 84 percent on your position You know, unless if it's money that you need to pull out to pay the irs or the mob I don't know but unless unless it's that I I feel like you can hold on a little bit longer and wait for the next squeeze Just realize when that next squeeze happens whenever it is whenever that next squeeze will be It's going to dump back down pretty hard pretty fast as it squeezed up, right? history repeats itself Alrighty folks, we have another few more minutes another five or so more minutes. I want to go through so uh Question from dana who wrote me through email actually this morning. So I wanted to make sure I go through through her email Donna is just a trial member in the room this week. It is moving very fast, but I am only following not trading I appreciate you doing that Donna. I can't say that enough for just any trial member joining us here Uh, you know new student any trade small shares not much more than that But as a trial member just sit back just kind of follow the chat Go through the traders talk workshops that you have not just this live version But the recordings that are on the student dashboard you have access to those make sure that you talk to your education advisor They could walk you through it Um And I I believe that we've covered this now at this point for Donna So Donna basically was saying I don't see that mentioned much in the trading room. I thought Um, you know regarding level four. I thought it was based on the heat map. Is that the same level? You know, I don't see it as much in the room. I don't hear as much about using level three so really quick folks, um Aside from traders talk The only education that we provide is in our main curriculum phases one two and three of our stock trading course So most of the members here like norman and bill and michael and you know Just any one of our names that we could say otherwise alan who's joining us here. I believe Uh, lada and norman and john and bill and lory and joe and bob and chuck which most of our members in our room that you see are Students that have access to the main curriculum that we provide Uh, but just when it comes to following the live trading room Well on our screen here the level three that we have is the trade station matrix That's the program on the far right side of the screen in blue and red So right over here When we're calling out stocks, we're calling out the stocks based off iceberg levels Uh, a k a i b in the trading room if there's you know, uh 500 000 share order on the ask Well, it would pop up on level three on the far right side namely in red Uh, that would be resistance But in the trading room you would likely see that the chat the call out be you know So and so stock 500 k i b at so and so price So we're we're getting that information from level three We're getting that information from level four which is book map. That's the heat map So, you know, I covered the rev trade already. I demonstrated level four certainly already in this workshop So I hope that I covered that enough for donna right there You know, this goes for anyone because we're nearing the end of this workshop live right now You know for anyone of us on social media that had that that's been watching I I appreciate you folks joining in we do this every week inside our live trading room But um, you know, if you have any other questions folks feel more than free to chat me inside the live trading room Feel more than free to email me further more later on today tonight tomorrow if you're watching this on on recording Uh, you know, if you have any questions for any one of us on youtube my email address I post it right here josh at c2 trading dot com at least on youtube. I believe that's showing on the stream All right, and I'll be more than happy to talk to you on the side. All right, but uh last one year actually Um question also from donna could be two separate donnas here actually two separate email handles how about that Don after don all right. So question from donna r. We had donna p just earlier donna r right now asking um, just really quickly a couple quick questions to finish up So would what determines if stock is on the watch list or not? How do you know what stocks to watch? Well, we based off pre-market activity after hours activity from the day before perhaps So for for really quick as we just kind of come full circle on kavl That was the stock. I started off traders talk with What do you know a little bounce off it to their folks?  Would you look at that? um Nice trade, but you know kavl was a stock that we put on our list this morning because It exploded in the after hours off of whatever news It was just a big come pre-market this morning when we woke up and opened up our platform And just we thought there was a chance it could run Clearly we were wrong with that, you know thought it didn't run It kind of power walked on its way down But um, you know, maybe later on today it could make a better move up. I don't know But definitely started off too off that two level So pre-market activity what's on the percent gainers and losers lists? Namely, uh, you know, if you join us inside our live trading room, we do our morning meeting every morning at nine o'clock eastern time We do also do that weekly on our youtube channel So for most of us that are watching regularly on youtube, you may know that but as a first time attendee Hey every morning at nine o'clock eastern Fausto Puglisi himself president founder of cyber trading university He'll come on do our morning broadcast our pre-market huddle as we call it and he'll scan the market So the more that you watch him and hear his thoughts and insights Um, I'll be tagging in for him for him tomorrow at least but um, you know, it's just to say You hear our insights and the more that you watch us hear us you do it yourself You naturally become a lot better at it All right folks I got an empty water bottle here and I've had an empty water bottle for the last 10 minutes So I appreciate you folks, uh sticking with me here with dry mouths So we're gonna finish up for right now, uh for all of us once more on social media facebook live youtube I will have this up as a recording on our youtube channel at least Any questions that you have feel more than free to send on over through email josh at c2 trading dot com Join us monday to friday inside our live trading room by going right down to the link on the blue banner below right there on the stream to get started Uh for norman jenice charlene robert louis rizina And the 110 of us live inside the trading room right now. I appreciate you folks sticking with me here for traders talk today I'll be back on the mic with a fresh mouth ready to go Uh at 2 30 eastern later today. All right folks. So at 2 30, I'll be back on for the afternoon meeting. Talk to you then Come a cyber group member today Just click the link below and receive all these amazing products and a world of knowledge For just nine dollars Do it


Daily Tech News show is made possible by you, the listeners, thanks to all of you, including Ken Hayes, Philip Shane, Paul Boyer and Ditch Doctor. On this episode of DTNS, we break down the U.S. Department of Justice's antitrust case against Apple and see, does that one have a better chance than Epic's similar but more limited case? Plus Neuralink, it's impressive. But is it doing anything new? This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, March 21st, 2024 in Los Angeles Anyway, I'm Tom Merrill. From Columbus, Ohio, I'm Rob Dunwood. From Deep in the Heart of Texas, I'm Justin Robert Young. And I'm the show's producer, Roger Chang. Oh, my friends, what a show we have today. Intrigued lawsuits. Apple under antitrust in the U.S. Bisset on all sides. A horrible, no good, very bad Thursday for the old Apple. Yeah. Rotten Apple. Is it? Is it a rotten apple? We're gonna find, we're gonna push on that skin and see how much. Real quick, before we get to anything else, Threads opened its beta, Rob. We were talking about them integrating with the Fediverse and giving a talk on that. So if you're in Canada, Japan and the U.S., and you're older than 18, you can share your posts to Mastodon and anywhere else in the Fediverse. Now, the rest of the quick hits. Oh, congratulations, Reddit. You're officially a public company. You can go find their stock under the ticker symbol RDDT. The company priced its initial public offering at $34 per share. That was at the top of the range. They had said 31 to 34. So it says, you know what, we got enough interest. We're gonna get as much as we can out of this. That is $6.5 billion in valuation down from $10 billion a couple of years ago, but everything's down. It's the first major social media company to IPO since Pinterest did it in 2019 and one of the very few venture-backed tech deals of the past couple of years. After publicly announcing a ban on the importation, sale and use of consumer hacking devices like Flippers to crack down on Carthus in Canada, the Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada department clarified its stance. The intention is to ban the illegitimate use of wireless devices used during Carthus. The ISED will move forward with measures to restrict the use of such devices to legitimate actors only. So no ban on Flipper Pro.  So, yeah, there's that. The U.S. Senate heard a classified briefing on the risks of TikTok that are being used to justify a bill that would order bike dance to sell the U.S. part of that business or face a prohibition against its distribution there. After the briefing, senators indicated they might schedule a public hearing. Senate Majority Leader Schumer has not committed to a floor vote. Really hasn't commented on the bill at all. That is a slower and frankly more normal pace for a bill than what happened in the House where they got the same kind of briefing and moved swiftly to an overwhelming passage. And if you don't understand how the U.S. works, Senate must also pass a bill before it can be sent to the president to sign it into law. Doordash announced today that is expanding its partnership with Alphabet's Wing to bring its drone delivery pilot to the United States. Select users in Christianburg, Virginia will be able to order eligible menu items from their local Wendy's located at 2335 North Franklin Street. Doordash users near the address can select the new drone delivery option on the checkout page. So long as they have a small clearing on their property of about two meters in diameter in order for the delivery drone to set things down. So take 30 minutes to deliver it. You have to live within 30 minutes of Wendy's, but still, but also salute to the 2355 North Franklin Street Wendy's in Christianburg, Virginia for just getting so much publicity. Yeah, they are out of French toe sticks. YouTube TV has begun rolling out multi view on iPhone and iPad feature went live on TVs last year. It lets you watch up to four channels at once and choose one of them to have the audio. Android users are still going to have to wait a couple of months, so they won't get it in time for March Madness. Microsoft also had a big announcement today. Rob, what did they say? Huge announcement. So at a virtual event this morning, Microsoft announced its first AI powered surface PCs featuring a dedicated co-pilot key on the keyboard that enables users to pull up the chatbot. The Surface Pro 10 and Surface Laptop 6 are powered by Intel's Core Ultra CPUs with integrated RGPUs and a neural processing unit, aka NPU for AI tasks. The Surface Pro 10 for business comes with either a Core Ultra 5, 135 U or Core Ultra 7, 165 U with a starting spec of 8 gigabytes of RAM, 256 gig Gen 4 SSD with the price starting at $11.99. The Surface Laptop 6 for business can be equipped with a Core Ultra 5, 135 H or Core Ultra 7, 165 H. The base model starts at $11.99 and comes with 8 gigabytes of RAM, a 256 gig Gen 4 SSD as well. Both models are slated to release this spring exclusively to commercial and business customers. Yeah, in fact, I saw Ars Technica was saying you can, if you're a business customer, you can talk to your corporate representative to put in your order now and I think April 6th they'll probably start shipping these things. But I'm curious, Rob, like you've worked in the industry and this is not unusual for Microsoft to have business-only versions of their hardware, but they usually kind of follow more quietly the consumer stuff. Why the other, doing it the other way around, do you think? Yeah, I thought about that myself and I actually was talking with a buddy and he said one of the reasons is because Windows 10 end of life is coming up and there's a lot of hardware that you're not going to be able to run Windows 11 and further operating systems on. So Microsoft is definitely intentional about making sure, hey, we've got new stuff you need to start upgrading just so you can make sure you stay up to date with our latest greatest software. I think that there's also just a reality of the shifting world for these kinds of devices that there is. I had a situation literally on this show a few weeks ago where my old MacBook died and I got the new MacBook. It was due for an upgrade, but part of the reason why the old one died was because I was trying to do really, really pro stuff with a MacBook that only had the USB-C connections. Now that is very user-friendly. It's very sleek and it looked very nice. I got my new one and I'm like, oh wow, these unsightly but very useful HDMI plugins and MagSafe chargers and an additional place to plug in for audio. It is a pro market now and nobody sells to enterprise like Microsoft. Yeah, and these models are going to have enterprise-friendly stuff. Your trusted platform module is going to be hardware not firmware. The interesting thing is Microsoft has a consumer announcement coming in May, May 20th. We are likely to see these same surface models running on Qualcomm's Snapdragon X when that comes around. So that's another difference here as well. A couple other notes that Microsoft announced. Windows users now have access to co-pilot in Microsoft 365. You select the work option in Windows 11 and some updates to the adaptive line of accessible peripherals. The adaptive mouse is back with thumb support and you can print custom tails through shapeways. A new dual button is available for the adaptive hub, as is the adaptive joystick button, which is really just a whole joystick. It looks kind of like an old Atari controller. And there's a Surface Pro keyboard that has brighter backlighting, bolder text and of course like all new Microsoft keyboards, the co-pilot key. I kind of wonder why did Microsoft ever get rid of all of their peripherals and stuff in the first place? It just seems like it stopped for a minute and now they're coming back with stuff. So that's kind of interesting. But yeah, it's interesting. I looked at a lot of the announcement earlier today. Microsoft is all in on AI. They are all in on co-pilot. You're going to see that thing branded everywhere with everything that's coming out from that company for the foreseeable future I would have to imagine. Yeah. And that's what we're going to get more of in May 20th too, so it's not going to stop. I mean, and why wouldn't they? Aside from Azure, this is the thing that has defined an extraordinary run for that company. And as a lot of the tech world adjusts to where we're going, and it looks like that is a position away from advertising, you look at Microsoft's rivals like Google and Meta and say, all right, this is a product that people are going to subscribe to that has become something that the API will likely be something that will be baked into everything that we use going forward. They want to make sure that the mind share is in Microsoft's control. Yeah. And can we pour a little out for the menu key though? Because that's where the co-pilot key goes. Although when's the last time anyone, not just us, anyone. Not only don't I use that key that is right here on my keyboard. I probably couldn't have told you what it was until about four or five months ago when we started hearing that this one. It's really been more like two or three months that we've heard that the co-pilot key was coming. And that's, oh, that's what that thing is down there. I just, I've never used it. At least I remember using it. You know, we talked a bit about the co-pilot key when it first was announced that it was coming on.  We'll make a button. Great job, Johnson. We're definitely doing it. But I would not be shocked if you just have permanent elements of chatbot AI just on everything going forward. If not, you know, I think there's a non-zero chance that in five years, the way we think of UI is going to be more like just interacting with natural language. Yeah. In fact, I'm going to call it now. Within the next 20 years, the co-pilot key will be replaced by the brain computer interface key because that is another area that folks are developing stuff in. I would actually replace it with the segue key, but please go on. That's actually, so speaking of segue, let's talk about Neuralink. Neuroscience startup Neuralink live streamed an interview Wednesday with 29-year-old Nolan Arbaugh who has been unable to move his arms or legs since an accident eight years ago where he dislocated or dislocated his fourth and fifth vertebrae. He was the first person to get Neuralink's brain computer interface implanted this past January. On the stream, he demonstrated himself controlling a cursor by thinking to play chess in the game civilization. Significantly, he was able to move the cursor while also talking. Arbaugh says the device can be used for up to eight hours between charges. The battery is charged through the skin by wireless inductance and communicates with a smartphone for processing. Neuralink uses 1,024 electrodes across 64 threads to detect brain activity. Arbaugh says he was released from the hospital a day after the surgery. By the way, I'm pretty sure if I read this right, he found the eight hour limit by playing civilization, which is, you know, that speaks to total game or the classic gamer move. Neuralink has not published a lot of information publicly about what it's doing. So it's kind of hard for other scientists in the field to evaluate how different it is from the many. If you're not aware, there are many similar brain computer interfaces being developed out there. They just don't get as much press because Elon Musk isn't involved in their company. So what has been demonstrated in this video appears to replicate a lot of past research. For example, Stanford University scientists have used two small sensors in the brain to convert thoughts about writing words into text on a screen. They have published full details of that. There's a company called Synchron, S-Y-N-C-H-R-O-N. They implanted their BCI in a patient in a less invasive method than Neuralink uses, though they are probably not capturing as much data because it is less invasive because it's farther up above the brain. Again, it's hard to compare when you don't get the data from Neuralink, but it was good to see this demonstration to show that, yeah, this is in fact a viable product and it is competitive. It is right in there with the other brain computer interfaces being developed. This reminds me in a way of how Apple does stuff. Apple rarely does anything first. It's just that when they do it, it tends to be pretty decent and Earth becomes aware of it. And that's kind of what's happening here, once again, because the owner of this company also makes spaceships in electric cars. So it's just, you know, there's a lot of mindshare that comes over to it. So, but as we said, absolutely no, they are not first and they're not even necessarily furthest along, but it is really interesting just to see where this space is going to go. I don't know how helpful it is for us to parse where people are in this field at this time, to be totally honest with you. Obviously, Elon Musk is a paragraph, not two words. Everybody has their opinions. And so that's going to follow no matter what. But we just saw this happen with AI where we assumed that Google, which had spent a tremendous amount of money, had not one but two teams dedicated to it. And a lot of the researchers that led in the academic world on this field in their building for years that we just kind of assumed they were about 10 years ahead of anybody else. And then all of a sudden, ChatGPT sets the world on fire and now they're thought to be at least maybe conservatively a year behind, depending on what 2024 has in store for open AI. This is a field that by its very nature is going to go and fits and starts for everybody's benefit, including the companies.  And this is a great example of one where you take somebody that now has a capability that they would have never had in the past, or you're not going to hear nothing. And that is a very good benefit, because obviously augmenting our brain is something that is extraordinarily complicated and is fraught with a lot of different, you know, challenges both ethically and medically. Yeah, I think I try to make sure people know because Neuralink gets so much press, it would be easy for someone who isn't really reading as much as we have to read to prepare for DTNS to think, oh, Neuralink, they're the only ones doing this. So I try to make sure people know they are far from the only ones doing this. They certainly aren't even the first ones doing this. And I try to let people know, in fact, we kind of really don't know what they're doing because they don't publish a lot of information the way other more academic oriented efforts do. That doesn't mean they aren't doing something good. It just means we don't know. And today, I'm willing to give the credit of like, hey, we saw an actual demonstration. Yeah, I'd like to have more published details. But this is good. This is what we want to see is an actual person with the implant showing us what it can do. But to your point, Justin, given all of that, it's way too early in this game to know whether Neuralink is ahead or behind or whatever, because the advances can come fast and furious, right? Certainly a mile at a time. Exactly. Well, I mean, amongst family, of course, we what we have seen in a AI era, and I do believe this is a space to watch that this is a rubber meets the road era. This is not a conceptual era. This is not a scholarly era. What we saw with and we will continue to see with with these AI APIs is that things are going to work. They're going to move at a faster speed, the likes of which that we really haven't seen since the debut of the internet or the worldwide web, the popularization of it through the 90s or the smartphone and app revolution through the late odds and 2010s, in my opinion. And it's hard to tell. This could be AI, like you're talking about. It could also be autonomous cars where we just make very slow progress and people are very concerned about safety. But the nice thing about this is you have some very good, as they demonstrated here, with someone who had no control of arms and legs, very good medical uses that you can start to demonstrate immediately. So there's use to it now. I do think that AI does make this stuff go faster, though, not only Neuralink, but also driverless cars that that's part of the reason why we're going to see a lot of stuff move a lot quicker. It's a race for gray cells, not pink slips is what you're saying. Yes. Hey, folks, do you want to criticize that joke post on our subreddit? Or you could just tell us what you want to hear us talk about on the show. We get lots of great folks, some of whom are in Antarctica. DJ Fission posts links to our subreddit from Antarctica. If he can do it, you can do it. Get over there to our subreddit, dailysacknewshow.reddit.com. Salute to Craig! You know, Thursday started out so well for Apple. Tim Cook appeared in front of a cheering crowd that had lined up for hours to get into Apple's second largest newest flagship store in Shanghai, China, where you might think, you know what, maybe they don't like the Apple so much anymore, but they do. Cook even got favorable coverage in the ultra nationalist global times of China, first saying some nice things about China's supply chain factories. Now, it started to get a little annoying when Epic announced its third party app store in the EU wouldn't charge developers anything for the first six months, take that Apple and only 12% after that and not take a cut of in-app payments made through non-Epic methods. It got more annoying, however, when Meta, Microsoft, X, Spotify and Match Group joined Epic in filing a petition with a US court objecting to how Apple complied with that court's ruling saying they had to let developers use a button or link to direct customers to external payment methods. All of them are saying the way Apple is following this court order is not sufficient, but that wasn't the worst of it in the US, was it, Rob? It was not because Apple got sued by a lot of folks today. The US Department of Justice in 17 states fought a lawsuit New Jersey federal court against Apple Thursday, alleging that Apple's smartphone policies are in abuse to its market position and violates antitrust law. The complaints say Apple's policies prevent competitors from offering innovative services in spaces like digital wallets, limits the functionality of competing hardware, and makes it unnecessarily difficult for consumers to switch to other platforms like Android. Okay, let's work through the broad accusations here and then talk about what we think the chances are, what we think the implications are. First, the accusation that Apple does not allow global cloud mobile game services like Microsoft Game Pass as apps in the app store. Apple requires them to have a separate app for each game on their service, which is totally unworkable. So that's one accusation. That is anti-competitive. Apple does not support the full standard for text messaging. So not so much about RCS. They spent more time in the filing talking about not allowing competing messaging apps like WhatsApp or Google's messages to use SMS. Only the Apple Messages app can use SMS. Apple restricts many programs in super apps. The filing quotes an unnamed Apple manager saying that letting apps become the main gateway where people play games, book, a car, make payments, etc., would quote, let the barbarians in at the gate. So you can have a super app, but they kind of restrict it to make it less useful. Apple does not allow alternate apps to access tap to pay. So if you're going to use Apple pay, you're using tap to pay. That's the only way you can use tap to pay. Financial institutions, developers can't get access to that. And Apple restricts compilability of competing smartwatches, not allowing things like notifications or messages. So these are all examples of what Apple of ways that the Department of Justice says Apple is abusing their dominant position in the marketplace. But you're going to have to show that Apple has a dominant position in the marketplace, right, Justin? What do you think of this case and what the significance of this is? So in terms of the case, it is a greatest hit of things that people have been mad at Apple about over the last five years. Many of these have been their own lawsuits. You mentioned the Epic Games, a situation that has played out over the last few years. What's interesting about it is that question you just brought up. Can the Department of Justice prove that iOS is not just an operating system that Apple uses to run their extraordinarily popular and expensive hardware, but it is a marketplace? On one hand, you have Apple's tried and true arguments that we sell at a premium, a device that works, that does not have the complications that competing platforms have. Oh, by the way, Android's available. You're never going to hear Apple talk more about Android than you will defending themselves during this particular lawsuit. But we need to restrict these things because we need to make sure that our hardware works.  We will only let things up as much as you force us to do it because we know that it never comes back. Anything that we let up will be gone forever from our control. And so you will have to force us to make these changes. But on the other hand, you have a question that I do think is prescient, specifically as we talked about TikTok. We who have followed these stories for a long time and remember a fruitful period of our lives for which iOS did not exist. And the world moved along fine. We need to understand that iOS is something that brings in a tremendous amount of money. And that will be on the Department of Justice side is that what Apple brings in through the listing of apps and stuff like that is gigantic. And if that's not a marketplace, then what is in the same way that you can look at TikTok and say 177 million people watching video on a device? How is that not similar to not only a television network, but a network of television networks? And that is prohibited from foreign ownership. So we might be just at a reckoning point for a lot of this technology to say, do we need to think of how these tech how this tech is now and not in the nascent era where we watched it explode over the last 20 years? I don't think it is beyond the pale for folks in the Department of Justice to actually look over across the pond at our friends over in the European Union and say, OK, how did you guys make these arguments on some of these things? Because right now, because of certain laws over in the EU, Apple just functions differently there. There are things that can happen recently on iPhone and iPad that couldn't before because of laws that were passed there, sometimes similar to some of the things that we're talking about here. So I just wonder if I want to look and say, well, this is how this argument was made there. Let's see if we can't make a similar argument here if you are a lawyer at the DOJ. It is interesting though, to your point, Justin, it's like Apple, they've always been a closed garden. This is our own thing. How are you going to tell me what we're going to do with our thing? Do we have to build something to allow others to profit from our thing, or can we build something to allow ourselves to profit from our thing? That is, to me, in my opinion, going to be a big part of this argument. Yeah, it's about size. If this is a small device with a few customers, it's clear. Think of yourself. If you made a device and the law came and said, well, you have to let everybody have access and provide them APIs and you'd be mad. You'd be like, no, I made the device. I'm making the software. I don't want to let anyone else have it. Apple does let everyone else have access to it, but they put restrictions on that. And the question is, do we have a choice? Can we go somewhere else? And I think that's where the most compelling part of this filing is, is the argument that once someone's in the Apple ecosystem, they are dissuaded from changing. I was just hearing a guy on the Korean Pizza Club livestream earlier this week saying, yeah, I'm on iPhone because I can't switch. Everything I do is in iPhone. I don't want to move to Samsung. I don't want to move off of iPhone. A lot of people have that opinion. That's going to be the compelling thing is that Apple has made it so it's difficult for you to move to Android. This wouldn't work in Europe where Android is the predominant operating system. In the United States though, it's like 62% of the marketplace. And in the filing, what they're saying is it is 70% of the marketplace by revenue. So, you know, they're trying to get the bigger number, but either way, it is a big part of this marketplace. And they're going to try to show that Apple is abusing that dominant position. It doesn't have to be 100% to be in a monopoly. It just has to be able to abuse that position. And I think this is a well written case. It is a very compelling case. I don't know enough about the law to know about whether it is legally sound, whether a court is going to look at this and say, yeah, no, that is now a monopoly in the sense that AT&T was a monopoly. And so, not that they're going to break up Apple, but they're going to require it to be open. I will say that I have always felt that iOS should work the way Mac OS works. Allow a high wall to keep people safe, but people who know what they're doing and are willing to take the risks to go over the wall, get third-party apps, do things that they want with the operating system. And legal or not, if this case forces Apple to do that, I'll be happy. Might make me actually look in an iPhone. Look, it could work the other direction. And just so you know, if you want a little bit more about my thoughts on this, I typed it up in the free tech newsletter. You can go get that at freetechnewsletter.com. Speaking of email, let's check out the mail. Jason wanted to comment on our discussion with Patrick yesterday about the trend towards multi-platform game development. He writes, I was listening to your discussion around platforms that specifically they're exclusive. A component of this conversation that is missing and I think is important is that IP itself, a consistent motivator for the platform companies that are also publishers are in the continuing to support the IP's value. Microsoft and Mojang continues to release regular updates for Minecraft, a single purchase game because they make a significant amount off of the IP itself. This incentivizes the continued excellence for the support of those games. Each of the other console makers have at least one such property that comes to mind. Halo, Zelda, Last of Us, etc. I don't know that we have much to fear from cross-platform releases. If anything, maybe they'll leverage those broader reaches to publish more of those titles we love so much. Interesting. And then we got a different perspective from Brian on the same issue. Brian says, Game Pass is a service, not a platform. Patrick and I were having a little debate about that. Brian says, as long as the other platform holders, Sony, Nintendo, Apple, etc., take a 30% cut of sales and subscriptions, it will remain cost-prohibitive to have Game Pass on other platforms. Since Game Pass would be a direct competitor to games sold on PlayStation, for instance, it seems unlikely that Sony would want to cut Microsoft any kind of deal or exception. Basically, Microsoft can afford to run Game Pass on Xbox because they are the platform holder. As soon as other interests start taking a cut of subscriptions, the margins become too slim. At least for the foreseeable future, Microsoft wants Game Pass to be the differentiator that exclusive games are for Nintendo and Sony, not a new platform in and of itself. Thank you, Brian. In Pittsburgh, I actually, you know, it is interesting that Xbox Game Pass is available on the Nvidia Shield, right? But it's not available on Sony. It kind of kind of shows you a difference in the size of the platform as well. Well, Justin, Robbie Young, thank you as always for being with us today. We love getting your insight here, and people can get your political insight every, almost every day of the week, anyway. Almost. Politics, politics, politics. Tell folks more about that. Well, friends, of course, it is the political season, and there's a little bit of a lull right now. So, on Wednesday's edition of the show, I did something that I'm not really comfortable with. I get a lot of questions about whether or not what would happen if either Donald Trump or Joe Biden died before Election Day. It's gross and macabre. I don't like talking about it, but I did on Wednesday's show. Any question that you might have about that subject, go ahead and listen to the program. Politics, politics, politics, wherever you find your podcast. Another topic you may have heard come up on politics, politics, politics was TikTok and patrons stick around for the extended show, Good Day Internet. Justin has changed his mind on whether the TikTok ban would happen or not. And now that we see the Senate's reaction to the security briefing, we mentioned that earlier in the show. What does he think? Stick around and find out. You can also catch the show live Monday through Friday at 4 p.m. Eastern, 200 UTC. Find out more at DailyTechNewShow.com, four slash live. We'll be back tomorrow talking about the Waymo experience and what people can expect with Nicole Lee.


Let's move on to the perpetual inventory system using third-party application and integration Now this is the one that most people that deal with Shopify accounting don't generally recommend So I want to point that out first But before I dive into it, so now let's think about what this Contains find third-party application that pulls in each transaction allowing us to use QuickBooks online To track inventory on a perpetual inventory basis in other words There's many different types of of integrations out there They can allow us to help us pull information in from the third-party platforms like the Shopify's and the Amazon into the QuickBooks system now QuickBooks itself has an integration in the QuickBooks system which possibly could be used for Shopify Amazon Or eBay, but like with many other applications that one's trying to simplify the method by not pulling in All of the data sale by sales not making a sales receipt for every transaction That's happening or tracking inventory on a perpetual inventory system That's what most people kind of recommend not to track all the time every single Transaction we'll get into that in a little bit more detail But some other softwares you might find some that do allow you to pull in the full transaction And so you have to be careful in terms of if you're using third-party integrations What the integration is doing? Is it doing the format that you want? So perpetual inventory system using third-party application integration pros and cons So provides a lot of detailed information including customer data. That's going to be one of the pros We're pulling it over not just a summary of the transactions, but the entire the entire thing So we're gonna have all the customers In our system, which could be nice because then we can kind of look around and have everything within one QuickBooks online Tracks inventory and cost of goods sold on a perpetual basis So if we were in an on-ground system, then what would happen is when we purchased the inventory We would have an increase not only in the dollar amount and unit of inventory But also a subsidiary schedule which would be tracking it by units using kind of a flow assumption method like a First in first out or a weighted average method And then when we sell the inventory with a sales receipt or invoice it will actually reduce The inventory for us so and that's similar to what happens when you do a self check out at say a grocery store The grocery store is actually recording the decrease in the inventory and the related cost of goods sold at the point In time you do the scan even though you only see the sales side of things So if that's all set up properly that would be great. However the cons are It's complicated to set up requiring the implement implementation of inventory items into QBO in other words if you were going to set up a system where you pull over every sales transaction from a Shopify or an Amazon into your QuickBooks system You would have to set up inventory items that match the data that's being pulled in so that when you create the sales receipts QuickBooks online knows which inventory items to be tracking with that that gets quite complex and detailed Depending on how much stuff you're selling on these on these online platforms and how many different types of inventory You have on it. You may not Need data in both QuickBooks online and third-party platform in other words You already have the customer data the sales data You can put the customers on your on your mailing list possibly from the data Before it gets into QuickBooks So you probably don't need to track every customer Transaction because you already have that data in another system Over time large volumes of sales can slow down QBO. This is one of the big problems because if you're on Shopify or Amazon usually you're trying to sell large volumes of Inventory if you pull in large volumes of inventory into QuickBooks a bunch of transaction heavy loads of transactions It could start to bog down QuickBooks and slow down QuickBooks at some point in time. Also, just note that QuickBooks online Isn't really designed for more complicated inventory tracking systems It's a fairly basic inventory tracking system when you're using the the perpetual inventory system mainly designed for basically on-ground Inventory tracking once your inventory needs gets more complicated It the QuickBooks online inventory tracking system might not be Sophisticated enough to deal with it and if you want to track it in more detail You might then need an integration of like a third-party application