When in doubt, simplify. I like to remind myself of this phrase because it seems so easy to let things just get too complicated. This kind of like sighing in exasperation. It's so complicated. Life is so complicated. There's just so much going on. I'm overwhelmed. This feeling of overwhelm. I mean, we've all had it and it's absolutely understandable to have this feeling of being overwhelmed by just too many things going on. But I don't think it's okay or necessary to let ourselves stay in that state and just accept the inevitability of it. Overwhelm, chaos, this feeling of too many things going on, juggling too many balls in the air doesn't have to be that way. Of course, there's always going to be complications. We can never expect an entirely smooth ride. So we always have to be ready to deal with more things than we might choose. But I don't believe we have to just accept that there's going to be crazy complication and this overwhelming storm of chaos at all times. We have some ability to control and filter what we think about, what we deal with every day. We can limit how much we allow to enter our plate, enter the menu of things that we're concerned about. Not perfect control because there's always those surprises and yet, for so many things, we are the gatekeepers. And that's one of the big things that seems with simplicity and minimalism is to be a gatekeeper, the gatekeeper of your life, to say no to so many things and to just not have them be an issue. And we're just surrounded by all these voices telling us you must care about this, you must care about that. Whether it's advertising saying we should care about something that their product can solve, it's politics, we should care about a particular social or political issue, or it's our friends and family, people we know, they have concerns that we need to deal with, maybe even strangers throwing their problems at us, we need to deal with. There's, and of course, some of these may be important, but that's our choice. It's our choice to decide which of these we're going to be concerned about. We don't need to automatically let them all in and by default, just accept all these concerns to say, you know, this is your agenda now.   You are missing this thing, you have this problem and now I'm giving you a solution, so go get it. You have this, this has been added to your agenda automatically, and you know, if I don't have that gatekeeper function, then I don't block it out and choose what I'm going to care about and pay attention to, then it just gets, it just gets added to the list. So we have these long, long lists of things that are somehow hanging over our heads, that, you know, sort of they're on our internal menu. So when I get to that point of feeling some kind of overwhelm or a point of indecision where I'm not sure what the next step is because there's all these different projects, there's different concerns, I don't have a clear idea of what the the highest priority next move is, then what I like to do is simplify, remove one item. When I don't know what to do when I'm stuck, a go-to can be, I'm going to remove one item of clutter from my life. One thing that I don't need to care about, whether it's just wrapping up some small thing that's been nagging at me, taking care of some smaller project to cross it off the list, or just re-evaluating what I need, what I want with my life, and what I what I really need for that. And then possibly, simply eliminating things from the list. So what is it that you have that you can remove from your list? What is your list? Do you know what your agenda is of these, the things that you care about and have to deal with? And are there some items on there that just ended up on there without even really a clear decision for them to be there? And what can you do about it? And what can you do about it?


Can you hear me okay? Yes, perfectly, can you hear me? Yep, good morning everyone, or afternoon even. Looks like kind of a late agenda day, correct? It is a lighter agenda day yesterday. A lot of people, we can wait for a few minutes. We'll start at five past. Sure, did the calendar invite you to Eden? He sent out a calendar and invites sort of maybe a couple of hours ago. Okay. I don't think it goes easy. Okay, all right. I was curious because there are multiple invites out. Okay. Quinton, sorry, we can't hear you. Okay, maybe we should get started. Quinton, can you hear us now? Yeah, I managed to figure out my problem. I'm here, thank you. Awesome, all right. So we have only a few items on the agenda today, but I'm hoping we can get through it quite quickly, but there's a bunch of stuff we can formalize if we get this done. So I just wanted to, first of all, double check that we don't have any follow-ups on the Harbor and Rook project reviews. I don't believe we do, and I believe we've submitted all the information, just double checking with you, Amy, if there's anything outstanding as far as you're aware. Nothing from my end, and I just spun through the project board about what's coming up. So I think you're okay, thank you. All right, awesome. I'm sorry, sorry to interrupt. On this side, was there any feedback from the TSC on the Harbor stuff? Yeah, so they've reviewed the feedback from the existing SIGs, including SIG storage. Their next steps are there are other SIGs that they want feedback from. Nothing that they need from SIG storage. Awesome, did you get any sense of what the posture was regarding the date by default versus not that we brought up? It doesn't seem to be a concern for the TOC. I think it was brought up, discussed, and it wasn't seen as a major concern, basically. Interesting, okay, thanks. Okay, just a question on that. So as a general point of reference, the graduated projects are supposed to be sort of ready to go for production, and they're supposed to be sort of easy to consume by the end users and in an optimal state. Do we need to specifically highlight any of those sort of HA or production-capable criteria in the template so that we can make sure we kind of tick that box going forward? Yeah, and I think we need to be clear about what is exactly the concern because Harbor does support HA, it's just does so by saying, hey, if you want it, you need to go and set it up yourself. And so if the deployment aspect of it is critical, we need to call that out. I think the TOC's position was that it's kind of unreasonable to ask Harbor to go and ensure that all of its dependencies are deployed in a specific way through its own default deployer. So yeah. Yeah, I have a personal opinion on this, and I think that's kind of a reasonable approach what you just mentioned, Saad, but so we do repeatedly see these architectures which are based on essentially a single point of failure relational database, be it MySQL or Postgres or whatever. And to some extent, like the whole cloud native movement is specifically to address that problem. And so I think I would personally say that that's something that relies on a single point of failure relational database is not cloud native, it'll stop. Yeah, I don't know what other people's opinions are on the matter, but it seems like a showstopper to me if there's no easy way to make something highly available, which is the case with relational databases. Specifically, traditional style, databases. I think that criticism is fair. If you have something which is designed to scale and to be instantiated in Kubernetes, et cetera, but then has dependencies on something which is a single point of failure, that should be a cause for concern. I think if there are ways to work around that, that should be taken into consideration. I mean, specifically if, for example, Harbor has dependency on a database, but its default deployer doesn't deploy the database in HA, but there is a set of exercises or maybe there's a Helm chart or there's something you can use that can allow you to deploy it in HA. Then I guess the next thing to look at would be what happens if that service has issues? So for example, a database like SQL or Postgres that's deployed with HA, how does Harbor cope with a failover? Does it need to be repointed? Do you have to have some sort of load balancer across a multi-master setup of databases or something? I mean, there are so many different options and I think if that's not made clear in the project, it's incredibly easy for an end user to get this wrong. Yeah, the nice thing is that they did make it pretty clear in their documentation, which is why I was able to find it when I was doing the due diligence. I think the only difficult part is actually going in and setting it up because you have to go to a third party to figure out how to do it. Gotcha. Yeah, I mean, over and above that, and please, I haven't set up like HA databases for many, many years, so please somebody feel free to climb in and correct me, but my understanding is that it's essentially well-nigh impossible and that's why we have projects like Vitesse, for example, but I mean, it's a whole project designed to make MySQL like highly available and scalable. And my understanding is that there isn't actually a simpler way of doing it. And so any notion that one can actually create, set up MySQL to be highly available and scalable is not true. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. They have to have manual master-slave failover or something like that because there isn't a way to have seamless automated failover, which is the essence of cloud native computing. Well, we have Sue and Tom on the call. Maybe they can chime in. Yeah, what Quinton says is kind of true. The only alternative is to use a mounted storage that is durable and take the hit on the HA. If the part goes down, it comes back up and performs recovery from another, when it comes, yeah, when it comes back up, it performs recovery and continues. There's possibility of a little bit of a data loss. You may lose your last transaction or something depending on how you set it up. But it's generally true, but it is also true that practical considerations can be brought in and given that we want to encourage more storage to move into Kubernetes. I don't know how strict we want to be about this. And I think we should differentiate between kind of different levels of HA, right? So if we're talking about a single site and we're talking about, you know, synchronous replication across multiple instances within that site, I think that's what we're talking about for Harbor, versus kind of geographic HA, multi-site HA, which is like Quinton mentioned, much more for challenge. But just to be clear, I'm not talking about multi-site at all. I'm just talking about a data store which needs to be transactional. So if you upgrade your containers in the repository, you need to know that it's actually there. And because the entire cluster depends on that version being there, and if the repository becomes unavailable or gets corrupted, your entire cluster is potentially failed.   It's gonna happen. And that's what cloud computing and cloud made of storage is designed to solve is that you don't have those situations. So, yeah, no, but don't, please don't confuse it with multi-site replication or anything else. I'm just talking about the very basic use case and making sure that the repository is available when you need it to any transactionally sound. But wouldn't the same problem exist for something like an SED for Kubernetes or I don't understand databases that well. So, Kubernetes, I mean, SED is fundamentally transactionally sound. You have three nodes, they agree on who the master is. They agree on all the transactions that are committed. And if any one of them fails, or in fact, yeah, in some case you have five, but let's just use three. Any one of those nodes can go down. You don't lose any transactions. Everything is perfectly sound and nothing becomes unavailable. So that's essentially what I'm talking about is there's a fundamental difference between having a SED type system underlying your storage and having a single point of failure relational database if you don't have something like the test on top of it. So by the way, even people don't trust, people that go into production with the test don't even trust the SED. They actually, some of them actually were asking about what if we lose all the SED data. So one design principle of the test is that if the SED data is lost, it can be manually reconstructed. So the entire cluster can be redeployed even if all the data is wiped. But I would trust SED or ZooKeeper or console with this can use all of them. But it did take a lot of effort to get to that point. So I don't know.  So I don't think the expectation is to be unrealistic like that, but to be very clear about what failures you can tolerate and what failures you can't tolerate. Now, burning down an entire data center is not a failure that anybody claims to be able to tolerate without any outage. However, losing a single machine is. And with a relational database, I'm not aware of it being possible to handle the failure of that machine without losing some data or being unavailable for some period of time until some human intervenes and you lose some transactions as you pointed out. That's the essence of the problem. I guess what we're debating here is the implementation of those backend dependencies.  So for example, the default at CD operator keeps data in ephemeral storage and if three pods crash, you could actually just lose your data and have to restore a backup. But obviously that's based on how it's implemented. And I think the same could possibly be argued for databases like MySQL and Postgres, you know, if you're using a master-slave relationship with some sort of asynchronous replication, you can almost certainly guarantee that there will be some sort of data loss. If on the other hand, for example, you're using a transaction log and you don't acknowledge transactions until they're committed to the transaction log and the transaction log is synced to disk and the disk is replicated somehow so that you can restart the pod somewhere else and that replication is synchronous, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, you know, then theoretically, you can probably achieve strong consistency on those sort of databases too. But it is very, very dependent on the deployment mechanism. And this is why I was kind of specifically, I was kind of curious in asking Saad, how well is it defined on how you deploy those things in HA because almost certainly a default thing in a Helm repo won't do the right thing for these sorts of requirements. Yeah, that's a good question. So on the documentation for Harbor, they've basically listed a requirement for Postgres and Redis and they've said that by default, their home chart is not going to deploy in HA and if that is important to you, that you should set that up yourself and manually deploy those dependencies and that's kind of left up as an exercise for the user. And speaking with the Harbor maintainers, they said that the default Postgres and Redis Helm charts do enable an HA deployment. So to Quinton's question, I don't know how well that works out of the box but it is supposedly supported. So to the best of my knowledge and please anybody feel free to correct me, it is not actually possible to deploy Postgres in an HA and scalable fashion or even HA to the point that Tugu mentioned earlier. So to wave one's hands and say, well, if you wanted to HA then do it yourself, is only fine if that's possible. As far as I'm aware, that's not possible. And that's why, as I said, that's why we have the tests and HCD and other things where it is possible. That's the essence of my concern. And if it was, and this is to be clear, not a pointing a finger at Harbor specifically, a Harbor just happens to be an example of something that relies on a single point of failure relational database that has not been demonstrated to be deployable in an HA fashion and on which the entire cluster depends. And there is a whole class of these applications that we've seen many of them being submitted to the CNCF. And I do think, without wanting to like flog a dead horse, I do think that if we're gonna call ourselves the Cloud Native Computing Foundation and if we have as a principle that Cloud Native is highly available and scalable, we need to actually demonstrate that by not graduating projects that are demonstrably not highly available and not scalable. Yeah, I think that's fair feedback. Could you write up that quickly on the storage say due diligence issue? And I will take a note to bring this up to the TOC surface it as, hey, we just tested in SIG storage and this was. I did that already, but if it's, is any, I wrote all this down previously in the issue and all due diligence. Okay, I'll look it up if it's there, then that's. I'm happy to add to it if it's not clear, but I think I've already made that clear. If you look at the notes from, was it two or four weeks ago, don't remember, the notes for this meeting, I put it in words there. Cool, as long as it's writing somewhere, it'll be easy to point to. And this is from memory. So if it's not sufficiently detailed or specific, let me know and I can flesh it out some more. Sure, thanks. So the question is the project owners probably are thinking that they have passed this point, they'll probably be upset if they hear that we are, will there be, are they likely to be upset if we, now are going to say that we are rethinking this, or is that okay? By a project. No, I think. Sorry, go ahead. I just wanted to clarify what you meant. Sorry, go ahead, go ahead and see you. No, I was just asking. I mean, I agree with Quinton's point, what is it is actually true. So the only thing I was worried about is, I mean, the reason why I wanted, I thought it was okay was because metadata not being highly available by some people is treated as acceptable, but if it is not reconstructible, then it's a huge problem. And I don't know if that is a property of hardware. Like if you lost all your metadata, can you reconstruct it annually? We could let them off the hook if that was the case. But otherwise, yes, it is a definitely a concern and in principle, everything that Quinton said is 100% true. But the bigger question for me was, we thought we said, okay, we find that acceptable, but if we have not said so, I think it's fine. We can go back and say that, we're taking to address it. To be clear, what I suggested we do, and I think what Saad did was, we highlight the fact that this thing is not available and we defer to the TOC to decide whether they would like to delay. So the project has already stated that they plan to support more highly available back-ins. Was that? Yeah, I got it, yeah, now I understand. Yes, yeah, yeah. And so the question was just, do the TOC want to delay graduation until that work is finished or do they want to graduate it now? Got it. And so I agree with you. If it were my decision, I would delay graduation until that work's finished. They've decided not to and that's the prerogative of the TOC and that's reasonable. My question is actually, or my concern is actually much more general than Harbor and I'm not having a good Harbor particularly. I'm just wanting us to come to a clear conclusion on the point of this entire class of things that are based on single-point failure relational databases upon which an entire cluster depends, we need to make a blanket decision as to whether those projects can graduate before they provide highly available back-ins or not. And my point fairly strongly is that I do not think we should. I don't think it creates the right precedent for the CNCF if we do graduate such projects. Forgetting about Harbor for the moment. And I don't want this. I think you're perfectly right. And maybe we should just bring this up at the next TOC meeting. For what it's worth, after the last TOC meeting, Erin did email the TOC mailing list and said, based on these issues, we're not okay to recommend graduation as a SIG and we'd like further clarity on this. And I just copied it into the chat window just to make sure everybody had seen that email. So I think it's perfectly fine for us to raise this at the next TOC meeting. I'll add it to the SORICSIG agenda or updates for the next time. Thank you. And sorry for occupying so much time. I just wanted to make, to clearly communicate what I was trying to say because I think it was misunderstood a few times. I will now be quiet. Thank you. I think this is important. It was worth the discussion. Thanks. Okay, so I had two other things on the agenda and then I can open it up to the floor in case there's anything else that the people want to cover. So let's discuss. I think for SIG Runtime, they actually added on the PR that they are recommending for this one to move forward. Maybe not in that document, but on that poor request itself, if I see something, is that we reviewed DD in SIG Runtime and it looks very solid. It's on that PR 331. Yeah. I think Harbor is an unusual project in that multiple SIGs are reviewing it. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's fine. SIG Runtime at the moment to clarify all that. So yeah, I'm working with them. But interesting, the email that you're proposing here said SIG Runtime has not provided a recommendation, but they actually have. So just that, yeah. Sure. Oh, it's, I mean, that email was sent sort of a couple of weeks ago, so. Oh, you sent this email? Okay. Yeah, yeah, it went to the TFC mailing list. Oh, I thought you were going to send. Okay, got it. Thanks. I think the way things are moving at the moment to SIG Runtime is actually supposed to coordinate all the responses from all of the SIGs, which it hasn't done yet. And also there's a document that outlines, so each SIG should describe what they looked at and give a summary of their findings. And that hasn't been done yet and that's what the TFC noted and that seems like what is happening now. And SIG Runtime is responsible for doing that. I'm actually one of the co-chairs there. I've been a bit slack about getting it together, but that's what we're busy with at the moment. Yeah, so. Awesome. Wow, so you get to have a double lock in this case. All right. So moving on to the next agenda item. So as discussed last time, I have created a copy of our Storage Landscape White Paper, given it the V2 title and I've copied in the Database section that Sugu had worked on and that we had reviewed and I copied in the updated management and CSI section that Shing had put together and that we had reviewed and agreed. There is one outstanding small piece of work that I need to copy in, which is the database comparison table from the database doc, because I just didn't finish it in time. But once that is done, I'd like to suggest that we move forward with publishing the Landscape V2 White Paper and I'll raise a service desk request with the CNCF, so maybe we can publish this on the website and maybe have a blog or some other marketing content around it to make sure it's visible to the community. Anybody have any discussion items or would like to sort of review it in a bit more detail or any questions? Okay. Of course, the document link is included in the minutes. It would be really great if people could just scan through it and just make sure I haven't messed anything up or made any mistakes. I obviously feel free to comment on anything that you need, or I think might need an update or whatever. Awesome. Thanks for all your hard work on that, Alex. Just one parting comment. We had a bunch of things that we sort of were targeting for KubeCon Europe, which is obviously now postponed. I would like to encourage us to just stick with our plans even though the actual KubeCon has been postponed. Let's try and get all of those to-do items done by KubeCon's original date, which I think we can do and we've got most of the work done rather than let it slide. Because I'm pretty sure that we're gonna have another deluge of things that need to be done by the new KubeCon dates. They're gonna be a bunch of projects that arrive and want to join the sandbox and be graduated and et cetera by the new date whenever that turns out to be. And so let's not let the existing stuff slide beyond that bit. Hopefully we all have a little more time because we no longer are going to KubeCon. So you get a free week. Yeah. Yeah, no, that makes complete sense. So just to recap, the three things that we had wanted to do was this, the V2 of the storage landscape, the use case template and the performance doc. The performance doc has slowed a little bit. We have people working on it, but yeah, we need to speed that up a little bit. And the use case template was going to be the next thing on the agenda. So does everybody have the link from the meeting minutes? Otherwise, I'll paste it into the chat window. Actually, the meeting minutes, is there a link for that on the GitHub page? Because I thought I saw it last night. There is, yeah. Well, I can't see it now though. It should be in the GitHub page and it should also be in the meeting in front. Let me do sex, I'll send you the link. I see it, it's the Bitly link, foundation. That's right, cool. Right, so the use case document, this has been something that we've kind of gone back and forth a few times. I'm just gonna give it one minute summary just to bring everybody back up to speed and remind everybody of the various discussions that have happened so far. So the use case document was something which we wanted to do as a follow up to the landscape. And the idea was that the landscape described things like the storage attributes and the management interfaces and the different storage topologies and things like that. And what we wanted to do was that then take that, take the information from that content and apply it to some specific use cases. Initially, we had kind of discussed having specific use cases after much debates. We, you know, especially around CNC and king making and that kind of thing. We settled on having use case categories instead of, you know, specific use cases. And we had, we've had a few discussions about what those categories should be. We put together the first five categories that we think needed to be tackled which were databases, object stores, message queues, instrumentation. So under instrumentation, I'm thinking of, you know, things like Prometheus, for example, and KV stores. And the idea would be that we would have a use case document for the category in GitHub. And that use case document might then have one or more options to describe, you know, more specific examples of that category. So for example, the use case for databases might have two or three examples to discuss, you know, a single instance database, a replicated database, a sharded database, that kind of thing. Similarly, you know, for KV stores and whatever else. So far so good. Any questions on that? So if we look at the use case template, we've kind of, we've taken the template that Louise had started working on, had circulated within that working group. And I've taken that, put it into a Google document and added a few additional sections. So we kind of start off with some simple goals and non-goals, which is more to kind of describe what's in scope and what's out of scope and make that clear to the reader. We then have a storage attributes section and this is based on the attributes from the landscape white paper. So when we talk about availability or scalability or performance or whatever else, what those different use cases are dependent on, you know, that we even have a section of consistency, which would be a great discussion point following on from the HRA discussion we just had now, et cetera. And then finally, durability as well. We talk about the storage topology and we're kind of having here a tick box kind of thing to make it easy for the end user to sort of say these different topologies are recommended or not recommended for a particular use case category. We also then discuss, you know, if we're talking about, say, block stores or distributed file systems, for example, or things like that, what we recommend or what we don't recommend for those particular categories. And then I've added in some sample text to kind of cover things like that. Things like deployment and instantiation options. So these are, for example, I actually used the examples that Sugu had put together in the database document as a starter for 10, but we can update those. So what I'd like to do is if we can get agreements on the templates, perhaps we can have two or three people maybe work together and pick a particular category and create an example of that based on the templates and just to see if it works and kind of give an idea of what an example template would look like. Comments, thoughts, queries? Yeah, I think it'd be great to get one or two canonical examples of the use of the template out so that we can kind of set the tone and then hopefully the rest of the community pick up and replicate those for other areas. Okay. Is there anybody on the call that particularly wants to work on this? So I'm happy to work on it with them and obviously Louis, although he's not on the call, will be helping to drive this as well. I had nominated DT to come up with one for Vitas. I'll ping her again. Okay, cool. All right. So what I'll do this, but I don't know if I can get his time. So that's fine. What I'll do is I'll set up a time with Louis and we'll work through the example. I'll send an email and a Slack message onto the whole group and anybody who wants to join, we can help iterate through one example and then we'll share it out at the next storage segmenting. I think if we can get Louis a PR in, then that'll be a good example because that has been the last question time, right? No, that's true. So Louis's PR, we had discussed it and we just need to refine it because and this was kind of like the output of it. So I've already met with Louis and we kind of discussed this because when we discussed the PR, we kind of got a lot of feedback around, we didn't want it to be specific to Minio and we didn't want to be specific to a particular project. We wanted it to be more suited to a category. So we just need to refactor it to this category driven rather than project driven. Alex, it might be a good idea to speak to Xing and find out, sorry, not the Xing we have here. Sorry, Yan, and maybe get one for HCD and more broadly for the category of KB stores. Yes, yes, that's a very good idea. I think he's particularly good at these and or could find somebody, for example, who knows about KB stores to write a fairly authoritative guide. It would be great if we could pass it by some of the other KB stores. TI KB is one obvious example and maybe console and make sure that the thing represents you know, a generic set of recommendations for deploying KB stores on cloud native stuff. Cool. Okay, yep, I'll do that. Good, cool. All right, so if there's no other discussion points in this, I didn't have anything else on the agenda. So are there any other business items or any other things that we need to cover today? Hey, I wanted to introduce myself. I'm Derek Moore. Derek? Yeah, well, I'm pleased to be here. Just been kind of listening in. I'm with Dell EMC and we've been talking to the Linux Foundation about moving one of our projects over to be hosted with one of the Linux Foundation umbrellas as a part of Dell EMC's streaming data platform product that we're working on. The heart of that product has an open source component called Provega, which is, you might think of it as a message queue, but it's really a stream store for the perpetual storage of unbounded streams. It's not quite a Kafka or Pulsar competitor, but that's one way to think about it. With Heritage at Dell EMC, it's predominantly a storage product or a storage platform. It uses like Bookkeeper and HDFS for like tier one and tier two or when used in conjunction with Dell's products, it would use ECS or Isilon as tier two storage or we have S3 connectors and so on, but we're built on top of Zookeeper and Bookkeeper among other things and we have built our own Kubernetes operators for Provega, for Bookkeeper and for Zookeeper, so some of those we will be contributing upstream and we wanna look at Rook if there would be advantages for Rook integrations and we may start in the LFAI umbrella, but I feel like there's a lot of synergies with the CNCF Storage Special Interest Group. So I just wanted to put that out there. Maybe I'll put a few links in the chat, but as we look to join the Linux Foundation, I think we'll at least be interacting if not kind of working more closely. We've recently been added to the CNCF landscape as well as the LFAI landscape and we're looking for which one of those we'll incubate in and I was looking through some of the documents previously but also the version twos that were posted today are these use cases and we would almost fit in a new segment, maybe similar to message queues but truly a stream store and streams can be of events or they can be true byte streams. They can be video byte streams and so on. So I just wanted to say hello and give you guys that. So, welcome. It's always good to have new people attend. That's really great. We have gotten a fairly straightforward template and process that you can follow if you want to suggest a project for a sandbox. I think if you want to share some links or whatever to the project, we can certainly circulate. I mean, certainly a first point would might be to circulate some links to the project to the mailing list and see if there are any questions. But if you want to go ahead, I know you're trying to decide between CNCF and the AI, LF, et cetera. If you do want to go for the CNCF, there is a really simple process to follow for the sound box and effectively the talk, the TOC with triage that request and then send it to the SIG for review. And you would present to the SIG and sort of describe the project and we could write up a quick recommendation. Yeah, I would actually suggest irrespective of whether you choose the CNCF or not and what the TOC decides. I think it'd be great to have a presentation anyway, just for the general awareness of the SIG or what you guys are doing. And then, you know, that would naturally, if things went that way, it would naturally lead into us being able to recommend or otherwise to the TOC. So I think, yeah, either way, it'd be great to have the presentation would be my suggestion. And maybe we could do that in two weeks time if that's long enough to prepare something. Yeah, that would be great, actually. I think that'd be beneficial, you know, no matter how this lands. And one of my concerns is if we did land on the LFAI side, I think there would still be reason to interact with the storage SIG, so. I was curious what the relationship is between your project and AI. It wasn't absolutely clear. Well, Streaming Analytics is one of the major use cases for this platform. And that fits in pretty well with LFAI and what they're doing. They're also a little easier to onboard into and a little less crowded. We're working with Chris and Ibrahim at the Linux Foundation level to decide where to orient this. Okay, but I think we want, we almost want to like span a little bit more regardless of where we home ourselves. Yeah, sounds like there's a lot of overlap with a lot of cloud native stuff in general. Yeah. All right, so why don't we do, why don't we do, as Quentin suggested, let's get a presentation on the agenda for the next meeting in two weeks. Yeah, that'd be great. I'll get that together. Maybe that would be myself and a gentleman named Flavio. So we can take care of all that offline, I guess. Yeah, that's fine. Jai, hop on the mailing list. Definitely, yeah, definitely hop onto the mailing list. Are you on the CNCF Slack, by any chance? No, I can do that as well. All right, if you hop onto the mailing list and just ping us the details, I'll get it stuck on the agenda for sure. But in the meantime, if you want to email me directly or Slack me, that's cool too. Okay, great. Well, pleased to meet you guys. Thanks for hearing me out. Thanks for joining. It's always good to hear about new projects. Okay, I think we're nearly time. Do we have anybody? Any other business to cover? All right. In that case, we can close the meeting to an end. Thank you, everybody, and have a good rest of your day. Thanks, Alex. And everyone. Thank you, bye. Bye. Bye, everyone, thanks.


Hey everybody this is Blessing Bleach Manga. I am from Zimbabwe and I'm so excited to be part of to give you a little lesson on the instrument that I play called the marimba. This is our national instrument in Zimbabwe. Remember to press like share and comment on this amazing lesson that we have and a big shout out to Natanio Music School for giving me this opportunity and I hope you're going to learn something. So a brief history about me. I'm a drama first rather let me say I was a drama for 10 good plus years as a session drama and so I learnt a lot about you know your drum pertences and routines and exercises and how to play with your sticks and things like that and it was easy for me to transfer that same concepts for example paradiddles to the instrument and now use that concept of drumming on this instrument. Actually the marimba is in the percussion family so they actually go hand in hand and the advantage that you now I have on the marimba is you can now play melodies you can now play chord progressions and things like that and these are some of the things I'll be sharing in this lesson. Remember to share and like and subscribe to this channel. So let's go this is the marimba it's tuned to C minus tuned to C I got C D E F F sharp G A B C C D E F F sharp again G A B C so I can basically play in two major scales that's my C major and my G major and of course I've got the minors in there that's your sixth your A minor and your E minor if I'm playing in G and I can mess around with the F sharp as much as I can especially when I'm in G so I can do a lot and today in our day and age we are trying to use this instrument in your jazz in your R&B and different genres and playing the concepts that I use in those genres for example in blues when I'm in G I've got the the advantage of playing that F as my seventh and so you can make use of this instrument in as many genres as possible I'm going to start with a typical Zimbabwean groove that's in six eight so I'm counting one down the three one and the two and the three and the four and the five and the six and the tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata tata and I'm gonna play something for you and then start to break it down and show you how I've taken drum concepts into the instrument so I'm playing so what am I doing here with my right I'm I'm doing my doubles on my right tata and on my left I'm playing singles so my left is keeping it's on the one two three four rather it's on the beat and I'm doubling my beat on the right so and this is a common common drum exercise whenever you're trying to exercise your right sometimes most of the times you're told to play as many doubles always much speed with the hand that you want to improve your speed so here I just took the same concept and I put it on the marimba and you'll find a lot of this on our six eight typical zimbabwean grooves again I said I'm playing and for the chord guys what I'm basically doing is I'm coming down from my top C coming down in every note of course I'm skipping my F sharp because I'm in C for now and still my right is on the C so I'm playing sorry my left is still on the C tata come down come down come down and then from here that's when I changed the whole thing and I now move my right to my F which is my four and it goes there now when I'm putting it in six eight I'm now playing even more beats than just the doubles I'm now adding them to become four on my right hand but my basic countings are one and two and three and four and five and six and seven and eight and one and two and four and five and six and seven and you want to count zero and three and four and five and six and seven and eight and one and two and four and in there I can even start to so that's about six eight let me play something in four four and I'm going to use a common exercise for drums and that's paradiddles our parties are right left right right left right left left now you're going to hear me putting it in a progression I'm playing cfg and hear me putting those paradiddles in a progression so for example how as you know as a drummer it's not in you can't pay paradiddles the whole song paradiddles are there to help you to throw in maybe as a feel or maybe as part of your opening of the song or something that is the same thing I do on the marimbas I may be playing something simple like so I'm developing I'm using the paradiddle as part of my development of the variations rather than just playing four minutes off so that's paradiddles and of course closing my lesson one of the critical things for me was uh just learning how to do speed as a drummer and I think the times I was a drummer that's the era when chopping and all these things came and inverted our music industry even in Africa and what I learned about speed is when it's appropriate to use it and that's the message I want to leave with all the rhythm players and especially drummers it's good to have speed it's good to have the technique but no where to place it when you're playing and for me even now when I play marimba I'm the lead instrumentalist and the lead vocalist in my band but because I know there's so much that's happening in the music I know when to put that speed especially when it's time for my solo because the rest of the band is keeping the rhythm is keeping me tight I have freelance now but imagine if the song is happening then it's it doesn't have order so that's my last message to you make sure that when you have speed on whatever instrument that you're playing especially drummers and percussion players know when to use it so for example I don't have the band with me today but I'm gonna play four bars for example keeping tight keeping the rhythm going before I start messing around and going around with speed and all that stuff so big advantage now is a marimba player because all this speed I learned it when I was a drummer so you have advantage when you have some of these instruments that are in the same family because you can take those concepts that you learned in the other sibling and use it on the other sibling and for me I'm taking a lot of drum patterns drum grooves drum thinking drum exercises and putting them on the marimba especially with this was now you've got some weight coming on the mallets so there's a lot of practice that you have to do consistently so you can get used to the stick size gets used to the bouncing that you don't have on the drums and perhaps match up with the speed and the happening of a drummer my name is blessing bless him again I'm from Zimbabwe remember to keep on loving following and liking this amazing channel and a big shout to Nathaniel music school for having me all the way from Zimbabwe to give this topic remember to subscribe and we continue to give you good different and amazing music from Africa from all over the world we love you and see you soon


This is the conference room at a shared office space called NXT Industries in Portland I saw a picture of this space on their website and I was like Wow This looks like the set of space 1999. I need to shoot my next update in this space and here I am So by the time you see this, it'll be September 4 Which means it's time for me to do my wrap-up of August and First things first I received a package in the mail from a fellow youtuber overseas Becky M on the beach by a Neville shoot She reviewed this last year. I believe it was one of her Favorite books of the year.  I definitely look forward to reading this Thank you Becky next I found this It was on the giveaway table At the office space that I share up here and it's got the disc in it. I Don't have an Xbox 360 though, but I wasn't gonna walk past that table and leave this there It's a street fighter versus Tekken by the way. I think I should say the title, you know Okay, before I get to books that I bought last month We'll talk about what I read last month the most importantly. I read Christine by Stephen King 7800 page book and I read it in one month Which is remarkable for me. It was an okay book. It was just okay It's a better movie than the book, but I'll review it in October for a horror month and right now I am halfway through Exigency by Michael Siemsen. It's an e-book that I got in a free giveaway from Kobo comm and a surprise gem. I'm enjoying it. I'll definitely review that sometime now to books that I bought in August I Couldn't remember if I showed this last time or not. It was in the stack of stuff that I showed last time space and time and anthology edited by Raymond J. Healy with It's got Asimov in it Anthony Boucher Ray Bradbury a even vote Look at that great cover the great classic sci-fi cover Me and the lighting in here is great, isn't it?  I was just a silhouette So it took some work, but man look at this lighting, huh? My last trip to a Powell's I got rid of a few books including that that big copy of Christine Here's a couple of pictures of people who were in line at the book buying table at Powell's these people are doing proper unhauls This is how you do it. You bring stacks of boxes of books with a dolly Anyway, I sold my four little books and I got some credits and trade and I picked these up anthologies the shape of things edited by Damon Knight at a great classic cover there It includes Ray Bradbury Theodore Sturgeon the A.E. Van vote C.M. Cornbluth Anthony Boucher There's the some of the names I read on that other book aren't they? Well, they're good The Solaris book of new science fiction volume 3. I don't know if I've talked about this series before I haven't read any of them I don't know if I have any sitting in storage back in Florida If I do I haven't read them and I'm sure I don't have this one This includes stories by Stephen Baxter and Alistair Reynolds some of my favorites and This thing Look at this cover It's called three times infinity. I like how they use the infinity symbol there the three novellas One by Ray Bradbury and Lee Brackett a collaboration between the two I really want to read that and the Golden Helix by Theodore Sturgeon and Destination Moon by Robert Highland. I don't think I've read Destination Moon This is all the books that I bought in August by the way Not very many and only two two buying trips the next batch of books. I got at Goodwill of all places There's a huge there are Goodwill's on almost every corner up here in Portland and there's a huge Goodwill down the street from here and I went to get a duffel bag and I decided to go see if there were any science fiction books in their book department. They had a science fiction section at Goodwill and There was great stuff too. Most of it for a dollar. There's something called Copernic's Rebellion. I don't know anything about it. The description was interesting. The cover was certainly interesting It looks like satire. We'll see the second Omni book of science fiction Back in the 80s and part of the 90s. I think there was a magazine called Omni That called itself a science magazine, but it wasn't it wasn't real science It was a pseudo science mostly Bigfoot Loch Ness monster that kind of thing But they were famous for publishing great science fiction So this will be good. There's Harlan Ellison spider Robinson Ray Bradbury. He's everywhere and he's dead The man cousin wars three novellas three long stories one by Larry Niven who created the cousin universe and Two other stories one by Paul Anderson and Dean Ying I've I've read about the man cousin wars for decades now. I've never read any of it Now here's a title here's a book title that I've been reading and hearing about for some time the neutronian alchemist Does that even show up on the wow It's so reflective. It doesn't even Wow My camera's freaking out The neutronium alchemist by Peter F. Hamilton one of his big books. I think what I'm gonna do with these Big novels is I'm gonna do some more of these try a chapter Book tags, which I've enjoyed quite a bit and Two more things here from Goodwill There's something called the bear went over the mountain By William Cotswinkle. I have no idea who that is the title and the cover Were really attention-grabbing it must be satire This says that he's the beloved author of ET the extraterrestrial. Was that based on a book? Or did he write the novelization? I'll have to look that up, but this looks like it's about a bear who tries being human and finally 2030 by Albert Brooks. I remember when this book came out. I remember him doing the talk show tours It sounded very interesting for those of you who don't know Albert Brooks as a comedian one of the greatest comedians in the world Some more trivia he was discovered by Mel Brooks His real name is Albert Einstein As far as what's coming up in September, let's talk a little bit about the channel I am well above 800 subscribers. It's it's coming along smoothly For the last several months My one video that's getting the most views every month month after month is the review I did of that Works weed wacker that electric string trimmer Before that the video getting all the views was my review of the coherence movie Which is fine with me because it's bringing the the kind of audience that I want for this channel The review of the weed wacker is not bringing the kind of audience I want so I may take it down I've taken down videos before videos that were getting 80,000 views 90,000 views that still even though They've been taken down for years They still have more views than I've ever gotten on any other videos But I took them down because they weren't bringing Subscribers they weren't bringing an audience So I don't know I may take down that that string trimmer video In the meantime, I'm getting more comments than ever before. I'm getting more active viewers Which is great a few weeks ago. I started doing these live streams here on this channel of the h1 z1 Video game that I've been playing I've been enjoying that and it brought in a few new subscribers People who are chatting with me while I'm playing if you're not interested in the h1 z1 gameplay videos Then just skip them don't watch them because I'm certainly gonna continue to do everything else that I'm doing here And for those of you who are new subscribers tell me how you found my channel and Why you decided to become a subscriber? I'd really like to know that and for those of you who are seeing me for the first time Please become a subscriber and certainly press the like button below the video Subscriptions and likes are how videos get seen on YouTube. That's how I'm growing and of course Please consider becoming a paid sponsor of my channel here There's a link in the description below you can subscribe for a small monthly amount or you can choose to make a one-time donation Everything helps. There's some great book reviews coming up this month and of course in October for horror month And I will see you then bye


So I recently picked up the Oklahoma Air Jordan 4 PE's, added these to my collection a few weeks ago when I was out in LA. I was at the Streamy Awards and I stopped by Untied and they had these in my size. I was like, you know what, I gotta get them. I just got the Michigan Forest from them a few weeks before that. And it was only right. Now low key, I feel like I might have to complete the set. But either way, we're gonna talk about this shoe. We're gonna talk about some of the other PE's that Oklahoma does have. And the ones that I might wanna go after for my collection, I'll give you guys some on foot looks and everything like that, like poles, fire, and trash. And most importantly, we gotta show these to my dad and see what he thinks. So if you haven't already, consider subscribing and joining the fam. I love posting videos like this and especially giving you guys looks at early sneakers or PE and exclusive sneakers like this that other people may just not be able to get their hands on. So for this shoe in particular, we have the Air Jordan 4 model. Now these ones came from the college series pack from the Suede pack. So there were six different shoes that came in that pack and this is one of the schools. We saw Georgetown, Marquette, Florida Gators, Michigan, Oklahoma right here, and UNC. I currently have the Michigan 4 PE from the set as well. If you wanna see the full video breaking down the entire set, I'll make sure I'll link that for you guys down below in the description. But for now, we need to talk about these a little bit more. So looking at the bottom of the shoe, you have an icy blue translucent Air Jordan 4 outsole. This is one thing that I have been worried about when it comes to this PE set in particular, simply because you got two different things. The outsole could start to yellow, the arms on the sides could start to yellow, and then the foam on the midsole could actually start to deteriorate over time, which is not gonna be any time soon, but many years from now could be a possible thing. So typically when it comes to getting PEs, especially when it comes to Air Jordan 1s, it makes it a lot more simple for the longevity of wearing the sneaker and having it in your collection to be able to actually rock it in your rotation as well. When you're adding more rare gems like this to your collection, you wanna always make sure that you're paying attention to those things as well, because yes, it's a more expensive shoe. You have more invested into it, whether it may be through trades or through actual cast that you use to purchase the shoe, either way, the shoe has a value to it. It's a lot more rare, limited, exclusive, and that means you want to have that shoe last for a long time. So that's stuff that you gotta think about for current time and in the future, which again, we talk about all that type of stuff in the Sneakerhead Academy as well, so if you ever are interested in that, I'll have the link for you guys down below. Now going on to the other parts of this shoe, you got a two-tone midsole, white on the bottom, and then a red and then a white speckle on the red, and then you have the red with the white speckle on the front end of the shoe, and then this wraps all the way around through the inside of the foot as well. And then throughout the upper, you got that deep red suede all throughout here, and it's just a very, very nice shoe. They did the same materials throughout the sticks in the pack, so you're gonna get that same type of quality and presentation throughout each and every model. Whether you get the Georgetown's, the UNC's, or these or whatever, all the materials on these shoes are gonna be very, very correct at the end of the day. So for those that don't know, the OU Oklahoma Air Jordan PE, this was specifically made for the football team, so as you can see on the back of the tongue, you have the football patch right here stitching in right there, and then you have a red sock liner. The back tab matches the midsole, red with the white speckle, and then the white jump man right here in the center of that. I think it would be a very, very dope touch if they did have the school logo on the back end, but I know they did the logos on all the tongues of the shoes with the jump man's on the backs of all the shoes, so they stayed consistent when they went throughout the entire set. Now these come with a standard pair of premium red laces and an additional pair of white laces as well. You got an all red insole with a white jump man on the right foot, and then the Oklahoma University OU on the left foot right here. Also, I forgot to mention on the tag behind the foot on the left foot, it says Oklahoma, and then on the right foot, it says football. Everything is pretty much straightforward when it comes to the sneaker and the color blocking and the materials and everything like that, so I'm definitely just excited to have these in the collection, and I'm glad that I found a pair that had been worn once because now, oh yeah, I already rocked them. Just know, I'm about to be rockin' these, and I know everybody says wear your shoes, wear your shoes, but trust me, I'm just telling you, when you get that feeling of a sneaker that had already been worn once and is really lightly used and is super clean, you can get it out of a better deal, and you're able to save a couple bucks and you know you're gonna wear the shoe anyway, it just makes you wanna rock the shoe even more, so I'm excited about that for those reasons, and again, that's just stuff that we talk about in the academy and how to be strategic and save money in different ways, but still get the shoes that you want and try to make those smart plays to still build and grow your collection at the same time, so now, I'm gonna cut to an on foot look real quick and show you guys what the sneakers look like on foot. We'll come back here and then I'll show you guys what my dad thinks because, I'm interested to see what he says. So what did you guys think about these on foot? I know I didn't put the whole outfit with the pants and the right socks and all this stuff together, I was just trying to show you guys what the shoe looks like on foot real quick, so maybe next time I'll show you guys how to style the sneaker and everything like that, but I just wanted to give you guys a quick look at the shoe on foot as well. Let me know what you guys think down below in the comment section. Now, I think it's time. I think it's time we go show my dad the shoe and see what he thinks. You know, he loves my PEs, he loves all that different stuff, and I wanna see what he rates these out of 10 because yes, this is definitely a very clean shoe, but I think I'm gonna give these out of all Air Jordan Force to ever release in all the PE options out there in this world. I would say I'm gonna give this shoe a solid, a solid, solid eight. I'm gonna say this is an eight out of a 10 sneaker right here. I definitely really like these. Maybe an eight and a half. Oh no, maybe we'll say eight and a half. We'll see how, I gotta think about that. I gotta reevaluate after I see it. No, no, no. I'm sticking with eight and a half. We're rocking with eight and a half. Let's go see what my dad thinks. All right, so I just got these right here. What do you think about these? Oklahoma Sooners College Jordan 4 PE right here. These are super sick. Just added them to my collection. What do you rate these out of 10? 11. 11? These are super sick. Out of Jordan 4s, what would you say these will rank like out of ones that you've seen or ones that are in my collection or your collection? Well, these are better than the gray ones. He likes the cool gray 4s. But no, these are super sick. But you know when they come to these colors like these reds and maroons, whatever color you want to call this. This is dope. What do you think the value of this shoe? This shoe probably 800. 800? Keep going up. Huh?  A little bit more. What? Ha, ha, ha. Oh, definitely not getting me. Ha, ha, ha. Yeah, you got no chance to get these ones. Just for me. No, you can't hang that up. I wanted to see what you thought about them. Whether it comes to the price, the colors and everything. Do you think it's worth that price tag? I think so.  Everybody can't get it. Right.  Just like the duck shoes and all the other ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, so yeah, the price tag can be up there. So if anybody has a size 14, what are you gonna tell them? Ha, ha, don't send them away, it's not too much. Ha, ha, ha, ha. You don't go for that one? I would love to have this shoe with $3,500. Nope. Yeah. This is definitely a very pretty penny on the shoe, but had to add these to my collection for a good deal. I couldn't pass it up. They're my size. I didn't already look, you rocked them a little bit. This is a good little shirt. Looking forward to rocking these this year. Yeah. But see, this can't go into regular shoes cause it's not for regular people. Right. So it can't go into top shoes of the year and all that. Right. So what do you think like, oh man, you saw some of my shoes I got this year from my PEs. Yeah. I picked up over 20 pairs of PEs this year, and I can't remember all of them cause I'm sure I get to do that. Yeah.  Maybe, do you want to be in that video? Oh, definitely. All right. So everybody in the comment section drop a comment down below if you guys want to see him in the, my top 10 PE pickups of the year video. Top 15. We're going to have to do 15? Yeah, for sure. You think so? You got 20 some pair. I know. There's a lot of good options out there. Yeah. Okay. Well, you rated these 11 out of 10. I gave them a solid 8.5. You're so hard on shoes. I thought it was a solid 8.5. How did they please you? Well, it's not ducks first off. It is a clean shoe. But the color? The color is fire. The materials? Definitely a nice shoe. But all PEs are nice. Yeah. You did good right here. That's a good shoe. That's a good shoe. That's a really good shoe. All right. Tell the people, tell them to subscribe, like, all of them to subscribe, like, log on to my channel. I mean his channel, all the good stuff. All right, we out. Yo, before you go, I just launched my sneaker head Academy where we got everything on the inside. I teach you all the stuff that I learned over the past 15 years when it comes to sneakers, scaling, real estate, you name it, we talk about all of it in there.  I give away shoes literally way too much, honestly. But either way, I'll see you guys on the inside. Hit the link down below in my description or pinned in the comment section for DJ sneaker head Academy. And I'll see you guys over there.


Patriot Prime Reviews is a channel for adult collectors and may not be suitable for children under 13 years of age. Viewer discretion is advised. Hey, what's going on guys? Patriot Prime here once again with another video. In first and foremost, I want to apologize for my voice.  So today is actually the first day where I'm able to talk fairly normal once again.  Now, fortunately, it's just your run-of-the-mill basic cold or flu. I think it's just a cold and not the dreaded C19. So no worries there. So this is actually a video that I wanted to put out about four days ago, but I wasn't able to. It's my Christmas haul. I know a lot of YouTubers are posting their hauls, so I figure, hell, it's better late than never. And there's one package here that I got from a subscriber that I haven't even opened yet. So I've been dying to crack that open, but I wanted to do it on camera, both for the individual who sent me that and for you guys to experience my reaction firsthand. So first off, some of the things I did get for Christmas. Now, I don't have a lot because as my wife put it, I never know what to buy you because you always buy yourself things. So I did get a lot of Amazon gift cards, which fortunately have now paid for the rest of the Golden Disc Collection and Legacy Wave 1. I did get this here. This is the Transformers War for Cybertron Odyssey Collection Micro Master Set. So I held off on getting these for a long time and they were marked down to 25 bucks. So I jumped all over them. I do like Micro Masters and there are a couple here that are throwbacks to the old mask figures. So I got that. Another gift that I received was Generation Select's Art Fire. So I'm really looking forward to getting this guy opened up out of the packaging and put him in front of the camera for you guys to give him a good review. And that's really about it as far as things that you guys would be interested in. Like I said, I got gift cards. I got a belt, some shirts, a big old pack of hot sauce. I should have brought that up to show you guys. So I'm going to be doing a lot of cooking and lighting my family up, so to speak, with some hot sauces. Oh, and a funny gift. My wife thought it was funny and I was like offended at first.  But one of my complaints when I'm doing toy hacks decals is the contacts I wear, I can't look at the decal up close. I'm always alternating between my glasses and my contacts. These, you're going to laugh, I put these on and I'm able to look close so I can apply decals now without having to switch back and forth with my glasses and contacts. And yes, I'm that old. And let's see. Dylan, that's the last thing before we get into the subscriber package or the subscriber gift.  So I'm looking forward to putting this together with him. That's going to be a lot of fun. This is really cool looking and something unique for the collection. I really don't have anything Marvel in here. So I am a huge Venom fan been one since he first made his debut back in the day. So that is really cool. Lisa, my wife said, Dylan, pick that out himself. Now we're moving on to the gift that I received. And I actually got this a couple of days before Christmas. I think it arrived on the 23rd, but we were busy with family and everything. So I never got a chance to film. And of course, then I got sick. So here it is this gift right here. It's in a loot crate box. So I don't think it's a loot crate item. I know what one of the items is. I'm not sure about the rest. So we're going to open this up together and check it out. Let me find my box cutter here. And we'll go ahead and get to slicing and dicing. Okay. And on the sides. And here we go. So get this opened. Oh, this is cool. It's a bumblebee loot crate box. I was wondering why it had this weird design on the back. I guess you can punch out bumblebee here. And it's like a paper craft. So that's pretty cool. All right. We've got a note. Bah, wheat, grana, wheat and anybong. It's like from engineer hoist. Greetings from the space coast. Merry belated Christmas. Here is the stinker that you've been looking for. That's the, that's what I knew was coming. Also included are some items that no longer fit in my collection. Masters the universe muscle men, reaction he-man, some Crayon figures. A, excuse me. Two 1F-X37 phantom fit. Oh, two IF-X37 phantom figures. One for you and one for a giveaway. That's cool. Thank you very much. Some upgrades from JRC Designs for Origin Bumblebee. Spoilers for Kingdom Red Alert and Sideswipe. Two sets of non-F hubcaps for the Dodson Brothers. And a Siege Cinge. I hope you enjoy all this stuff. Shannon Grand for Shannon Grande. I think I'm reading that right.  These contacts. All right. Yes, Shannon Grand. Her Grande. I hope I don't screw your name up. There we go. So Shannon, thank you so much. He did send me a message. I know if I talk too long, this will happen. He did send me a message. And he's like, do you still need a Masters of the Universe stinker figure? And let's see. It must be in the bottom of the box. Yep, there it is. So I was like, yeah, I guess he saw it in one of the sit reps. That's the one figure I've really been looking for. But let's go ahead and take a look at these items. Here is the, oh, an IF, Iron Factory Phantom. So there is a flat box. And there is the Iron Factory Phantom. That is a Legend Scale Mirage. So there's one right there out of the package. And as he said, he sent me two. So I guess this one will be a giveaway. I'll review this figure. And then we'll do a giveaway sometime early in 2022. So man, that is awesome. My Legends figures are really starting to grow. Thank you so much. And then we have, there's our Super 7 Reaction He-Man. And this one looks like a glow-in-the-dark He-Man. He's got a neat, kind of a translucent look there. It's playing in front of the light. That maybe he's just translucent. I can't tell. That's pretty cool. I know my buddy, Bert the Stormtrooper, just reviewed a Reaction He-Man and Battle Cat. And I dig him, they look very 70s. Kind of like 70s Star Wars figures. So that's awesome. Love the artwork. And here we have, what's that? That's Phantom Instructions. There's Stinkor. There he is. Been looking for this guy for a long time. Bert was able to hook me up with Web Store. I think Kato found Lop Beastman for me. I know I've got some figures from Firetox because my local Walmart does not get anything other than Skeletor and He-Man. So thank you so much. We'll get him up on the shelf as soon as possible. And what else we have? We've got the, that's got to be the spoilers there. The Masters of the Universe Muscle figures. These are so cool. I used to have so many muscle figures back in the day. You got Manifaces, Ram Man, and Buzz Off. Of course they're in a purple collar scheme opposed to the flesh collar that the old ones had. You got He-Man right there jumping. That's awesome. Then we have the Creon figures. Dylan has quite a few of these. I'll probably give those to Dylan. There's another Creon right there. That looks like bludgeon. That is bludgeon. I might be keeping that one myself. And then lastly, Siege Sins. You can never have enough battle masters. Well, note lastly, here is the hubcaps for the Dotson Brothers. That is so cool. We got a, what is that? JRC Design, there's some fuzz on it. JRC Design business card. And there's the rest of the inside of the Bumblebee box. I dig that. That is so cool. Shannon, thank you so much. You went above and beyond. Thank you for the stinkor. I can't wait to mess around with this Mirage. See what he's like. I really, really appreciate it, buddy. That is just very humbled and blessed. I hope I didn't butcher your last name, but Shannon, thank you so much. I really appreciate your gifts. I appreciate you being a fan of the channel, a subscriber of the channel, and man, just, I'm blessed, man. This is an awesome community. So that's it. That is my Christmas haul and gift from a subscriber video for you guys. I hope to do a lot more reviews in 2022. Hope to get the feeling better in 2022. Stay tuned for my top 10 list of figures for 2021, along with my top five disappointments. Now, guys, if you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, don't forget to subscribe, and don't forget to click that bell icon to get notified when I upload new reviews. Also, if you're in any position to help out the channel, I do offer channel memberships here on YouTube, and I got to give another huge shout out to all my current channel members because it's your support that help keep this channel growing. Once again, guys, this is Patriot Prime, signing out. God, that sounded horrible.