What's going on everyone Sam here with late in sports cards doing the or will we're ripping? 20 or 10 box Tuesday 10 box sterling sapphire baseball mixer number 134 random teams. Here's a look again at your random results. I Do not Tony actually I do not know when they are When they come out honestly As always you can find those on the website of the results tab as well as the link and chat Let's get going here everybody Gonna start with this. We'll start with pristine knock some of our Heavy packaging out of the way here One box a 22 per steam Good luck here. Oh No problem Tony. I honestly I have no idea says 1116. That's pretty solid actually respected gotcha gotcha gotcha We've got one soda and that's gonna be Scott rollin go into the Phillies on a slice of a star Not numbered Nice one there. All right Aaron judge not numbered and then we've got that's the dull proof on going to the rays on the golds rookie auto 33 out of 50 Excuse me. Thank you. Nice one there Congrats again Danny with the race Yeah, ain't she'll be fun Alan Ginter's always a lot of fun Still waiting on stadium club. Yvonne's been literally waiting on stadium club. It's like it's gonna be that meme It's been 84 years semi-long refractor rookie purple catel marté 89 out of 99 diamond backs. There you go I think that's trevor, right? Yeah, trevor up Wells over on switch Then we've got a blue Liam Hendricks going to the white socks It's gonna be 44 out of 75. Nice one there Only in case Jose Altuve and griffin jacks rookie What's up taupe taupe There's a wander rookie right on top Brandon marsher rookie Juan Soto, we've got a one gone. Nice one there going to the rangers alexandros s not numbered on the one gone Juan Gonzalez pure power auto You get any extra hits out of this that'd be pretty cash money if you ask me Sean Oh boy Luckily you didn't hear what we had to say about you Eduardo Escobar, that's cheap cousins 35 out of 50 going to the uh brew crew Nice one there brew crew and base got andre dawson. Nice one there for the nationals That's gonna be 42 out of 50 True That is an expo is andre dawson, but we'll go to the nationals There's a purple freddy peralta again at nine out of 99 going to the brew crew Grat you can grats brewers Ernie clement rookie jake cousins rookie mike ishramsky got a great deak man. Nice one there. That is Uh one out of 15 going to the cubbies congrats cubs kodi h nice one there That doesn't get it yet You like that one of one jimmy car. I pulled the linden johnson too Mikey I pulled the linden johnson one-on-one cut auto Out of luminaries as well. So cool. Dude. I love the president cuts. They're so awesome brandon crawford and frank thomas It's gonna say I haven't seen you in a while mike. It's good to have you back man Babe Ruth pure power and we got jt real muto that is not numbered On the pulsar. All right, what do we got next? I'll do it for pristine Move this over here. Let's do 21 bowman sapphire 21 bowman sapphire It's gonna be this one right here uh So like adley ruchman's a good one with all the bowman's and stuff Obviously ripkin's gonna be a big one like mount castles guys like that colton kouser It's gonna be in 22 sterling hester Heston kirstad might be in 21 as well. So yeah, there's a good amount of decent guys Yeah, ryan mount castle too as rory knows very well. All right, this is 20 Uh, 2021 bowman sapphire set beer Jay rod brison stop Uh, any deas on the first you've got uh, foridus nova 32 out of 99 Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha Gotcha, mikey And robber himself. I'll send you something on any mount castle Yeah, mitchell hyunnail choy austy hendi and uh, ellie hires montero james beard Brendan shoemake jordan croshans and nice blaze jordan first There he is congrats on that one there shane Take the blaze first for sure Nolan jones gunner henderson, uh, jose rodriguez first auto that's going to the white socks.  There you go Nice one there congrats, uh That's gonna go to the race dany c jordan adams and nolyn gorman Vavra.  Can I get a leader of coca-cola? Super troopers. Yeah, I went trick-or-treating. That's what I dressed up as right there. All right, we've got rendon woodruff going to the brew crew Nice one there. That is player worn Uh 40 out of 49 We've got nice 60 out of 99 rookie jersey card. That's gonna be a spencer strider congrats on that one braves Next one up. We've got 20 out of 47. That is going to the astros Chas mccormick on the eye black three-colored rookie patch auto I have not seen super troopers to be honest now You gotta see it. Isn't it a show or is it a movie? It's a movie. Actually, no, I've seen like half of it. Yeah I've seen like half of it. Yeah Uh, we've got to go into the mariners.  Jeez man. Who hurt you? You got 43 out of 49 that's going to the uh Um braves price elder auto 43 out of this is literally getting people who have not chatted today yet Like charts just like that's that got them to talk right there We've got this is actually kind of nasty Going to the rockies 13 out of 49 chuck nasty Charlie black man on the bat auto. There you go. Cody H on a combo spot Gene Warren there too. Not mad Sam. I'm just disappointed And then we've got going to the mariners abraham toro So this is um Uh, this is a mariners card So it's player worn as when he was a member of the astros right here because that's an astro one Empty empty. Uh, let's do fanatics under wraps next. We've got one box of fanatics under wraps baseball What do you got max? Max and Oh nationals And guardians that's actually not for some of the newer stuff. That's pretty solid Under wraps. Let's do it one box These are fun, man. I love the under wraps on baseballs We got here I can't see the auto yet Gonna be Nice We've got bob feller on the sign baseball. Nice one there All a famer bob fellow. Let me just double check and see what we're looking at on teams God, where was bob feller cardinals most of his career?  There it is max take get you a signed baseball Complain it into existence. Please max don't encourage people to do that to complain things into existence gosh Um, all right, let's do three and two photo You guys see me national anthem in the first game. No I heard about it, but I didn't hear it. Oh my goodness, man Oh, that's a dare to tear I have case this is ryan pepi up to 32 for the uh Dodgers That's gonna be a zeke old diran prospects going to the rangers one out of six And then we've got a joey vato 10 out of 50 going to the reds If Complaining it into existence was uh Was the case one goes i'd have half a stick case of stadium club ripped by now We've got joe tori jumbo swatches Two of six going to the cardinals nice one there Yankees great manager joe tori Nice one there. Yeah We've got sheen buzz that's going to the race five of six nice one there, man That's danie Sheen buzz All right, let's do uh, let's do 2021 sterling first Yeah, I know we had pristine and 21 and 22 sterling in this break Packaging stuff's always tough for sure Dane dunning ala hondro kerf rookie Hey sue sanchez. That's 102 out of 199. Jesus We've got yohan rohas. That's going to the uh, philly 74 out of 75 That's nicoladolo and francisco alvarez I did hit him with a double cut. You know it These are not easy to rip on top when you have them only on top Ha song kim for the uh padres nice one there on the rookie maximo coast out of 199 going to the uh rangers We've got kelvin kevin alcantara 46 out of 150 yankees nice one there Congrats on that one Hedbert pares and an o'neill cruise for the pirates Yeah, he I know that feller was feller was an animal man With all brujan nice you're done alvarez on the bowman throwback. That's pretty cool Uh 82 out of 99 for the astros. That's cool We've got yolbert sanchez. That's going to the white socks nick genzales and matthew allen Nolan gorman. It's gonna be andreas hymen as nice one there for the guardians on the rookie 105 out of 199 That is patrick bailey going to the giants on the uh Auto there's a little schmack of some sort right there. Let's see if shawen can get that off. It looks like it'll come off uh louise garcia and zavier edwards Double check on that one above the auto.  I think you could see it like top left Yeah, see if that comes off Like I said some sort of schmack I'm doing it's gone. It's gone You get to go there giants bobby wit jr josh jung dylan carlson rookie That's gonna be mc abel. Nice going to the fillies fillies did well in this box connor c There you go connor logan gilbert and matt manning That'll do it for 20 at 21 sterling. Let's double check. We got a 22 in here too Uh One 2022 sterling as well Oh one to go left in uh panini black pick your team. Nice Very cool. Those are fun, man. Those have been fire I love panini black One of the only appropriately size boxes The chaco you having sheets jackson coar got mesel your bina 149 out of 150 on the refractor auto going to the twins or just 49 49 out of 150 Julio aradriguez and jaren duran written Origins is gonna be fun too, but i'm excited for origins. Very excited for origins Yeah, see if we can get you either a eddy cafe or a uh toy park Nice spencer torkelson 49 out of 75 There you go tigers nice one there We've got gold redetmers 39 out of 50 nice one there I feel like a max because oh, no, what did I start? That's matt manning rookie and riddle focastro Cermudgens. Yeah, sure. We all are There's colson montgomery josh low 72 out of 99 We've got nice ellie daylock cruz. Go into the reds. He's got cincy Cincinnati would be Team i don't know blah blah blah. Where's cincinati? There they are rich be rich be there you go rich Willem in Diaz and jason domingus You can get your couser out of this Travis Hey something really nice and sterling that'd be awesome Henry javis jake burger erin ashby to 199 We've got salf relic. Let's go into the brew crew Nice one there dany Colton welker and joe ryan Jake burger speckle jake mires 119 out of 150 nice one there And we've got gold george valera 30 out of 50 going to max with the guardians. Congrats max That's a big one right there actually can mag this one. I think The valera nice george valera Luciana and conor one. All right, let's do 2020 bowman draft sapphire Uh, 2020 bowman draft sapphire 2020 bowman draft sapphire You get magnable area my first time ripping this actually This is one with a giant pack Good luck here everybody Slade a cassone Corbin carol Here at mitral Just call it the first uh colt keith. Uh, it's mason wilson Alexander uh, solier Matthew dire Tower sodar strum. That's a nice one right there Uh, casey williams or case williams. Excuse me. There's a redet measures first pretty solid there for the angels We've got orange joe ryan very nice. That's going to the uh raised and no he was I forgot he was a ray Nice one there. Congrats on the uh, the joe ryan their race We've got travis swaggerty t swag 26 out of 99. That's going to the pirates on the color match Nice t swag there pirates uh canario first of tink hens what a name first tremp palmer There's a j rod base fish and robinson sam weatherly first clayton beater first of hunter barnhart for the rays canto josh jung nice first sammy infante and kyle ispell I'll do it for bowman draft sapphire. We've got 2020 bowman sapphire now. It's 2020 bowman sapphire edition Let's see what's in here guys Was he really in the in the tampa deal? That's kind of wild actually that's like a rental given up like a uh, uh an ace Could you imagine how good that that pitching staff would be in tampa with joe ryan on it right now? Oh my lord, dude That would be scary All right, 2020 bowman sapphire. Let's do it See what we got in here guys.  That's awesome. Wilfred astadio Tyler freeman got something coming up here zack brown. It's gonna be a zeke yield the ran Nice on the first sapphire auto. Very cool. Congrats yanks There it is yanks Uh a little bit of schmuck right there too. I'll have shawn just see if you can wipe that off for you as well Yankees zeke yield the ran Brady mcconnell and six though Come on earth.  Joe ryan nice one there. Congrats on that race adam hill. Oh, yeah, we're getting ready to go here magical we've got a red of Gerard and carnazio First for the marlins. There you go sg. Congrats man. That's 15 out of 15 Take that for sure Nice color right there going to the miami marlins christian pashak and rinaldo hernandez Last pack of 20 bowman sapphire your love first minnual vargas You got it. Nice jason dominia is on the first. There you go yanks And j rod a couple of j rods now. All right guys final one here 2022 top sterling. Good luck everybody See if we can grab Look see what we got here seeing icons for the cut auto rookie of the year award winners and world series champions Empty uh, what do you want to do first world series rookie of the year world series Good call Yeah, first out of 15 is very cool man out of sapphire Is a redemption Believe it is a redemption That looks like it could be multiple guys Uh, it's gonna be chipper jones tom glaven john smoltz Sterling said triple relic red parallel boom There you go brave. Who's got it lana dude.  Congrats man That's fire Red should be numbered to five. I believe Let me double check here Dude, that's so sick Let's see this checklist really quick guys Let's see what red is numbered out of Chipper Triple red to five There you go. Congrats robert with the braves. Dude. That's sick. We'll get that into a mag for you. That's an awesome card, man Awesome card here. I'll keep your uh the slider boxes for you too. The good ones Wait, do we have the good ones again now? No All right rookie of the year award winners guys. Come on something big, baby. We've got buster posi Three of ten going to the giants There you go sand fran nice one there Dustin k with the giants Yes, most likely it will tonight cash There you go giants. That'll do for the break guys do a quick recap here. Let's start with our relics. We've got Uh, abraham toro for the manners, uh, joe torrey cardinals spencer schreider braves brandon woodruff brewers buster posi three of ten for the giants Uh zeke ill diran yankees south frelech brewers L. A. De La Cruz Reds read demers gold for the angels mizeli urbina going to the twins Uh, patrick bailey giants mc abel fillies yulbert sanchez white socks kevin alkintar at the 150 yankees yohan rohas fillies charlie blackman rockies price elder braves andres munio's mariners We've got chas mccormick astros hosay rodriguez white socks scott rolling fillies Vidal brujan that is going to the race So i'm sorry guys one god and going to the rangers. I do apologize Shane boss that's going to the race Then we had our two mag cards would be george valera 30 out of 50 going to the guardians As well as a triple chipper jones tom glavin john smolt That'll do it for the break guys. Thanks again for the fill next up. We're moving on to basketball


Welcome to NTIA Nightly. I am Anicia Antoine. The solution's top stories. The Ministry of Health and Wellness is urging St. Lucian's to use the National Helpline. The first St. Lucia mural is unveiled. And the Toko Foundation's outreach to the youth. The Ministry of Health and Wellness is urging St. Lucian's to use the National Helpline 203 to get the necessary support to overcome challenging mental and emotional issues. More in this report from Phanel Neptune. St. Lucian's are urged to utilize the National Helpline telephone number 203 which is expected to provide support to people in suicidal crisis or emotional distress. Council of the St. Lucian National Mental Wellness Centre, Chanel Eli Box, spoke on the process for accessing the services available for the National Helpline. You simply press 203 and you press call. You could use a landline, you can use a mobile phone and it is free and like I said it is 24-7. So as long as you call you'll be connected to a call responder and from there the call responder will assess to see what issues the person may be experiencing and to connect them to the necessary services. Those services could be anything from psychological services to psychiatric services or may be out of other services offered on the island. So as long as you call your information is fully confidential and you speak to the call responder the call responder will not identify themselves however you can communicate with them. I know that's something that makes persons feel a little bit uncomfortable that they don't know who they're speaking to but these are trained professionals who will keep anything that you say to them confidential and they will try as best as possible to connect you to the services that you're comfortable with and they will explain what they're doing as well. Eli Box also appealed to individuals or family members who may have someone experiencing an emotional crisis to use the National Helpline to speak to a professional. Oftentimes persons think that the person who's experiencing the thoughts should be the one to call. However if you have noticed any signs or symptoms of someone experiencing mental health concerns you can call on their behalf and actually if you call and you don't want to disclose that you were the one who called you could just simply let the call responder know that I just wanted to contact this person I'm concerned about them and they wouldn't even disclose that you were the one who called. Eliminating suicide is a communal effort. We need each person to notice the signs and the symptoms and those things range from persons posting about death persons talking about wanting to kill themselves experiencing hopelessness a loss of purpose all of those things count as warning signs and if someone is communicating those things to you or posting it on social media by all means please call the helpline it's a free call it's 24-7 and it doesn't cost you anything. The National Helpline telephone number 203 is a free and confidential service available 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Reporting from the communications unit of the Ministry of Health and Wellness I am Funa Leptun. Invest St Lucia has unveiled the first St Lucia mural at a duty free shopping complex Point Seraphine. Point Seraphine has been planning to do a mural for several years and finally erected the structure in the beginning of 2020. However because of the COVID-19 pandemic it has been sitting a week in a grand unveiling more from Roger Barrow Lawrence. Point Seraphine came alive with a boost of cultural activity that denoted the melodious chance of being Cessandescat and invigorating characters of the late Sir Derek Walcott as Invest St Lucia unveiled a sprawling mural. General Manager of Point Seraphine, Erlen Labadi says the mural will be the newest photo opportunity and authentic landmark in the Castries Basin. He said this addition to the shopping complex is not only for beautification and tourist attraction but a source of St Lucia pride. The paintings Labadi says were carefully chosen to portray St Lucia's past, present and future through cultural and traditional symbols. With the names St Lucia only have in ten letters there was still no way of fully encompassing the rich culture, diversity and complicated history of our country even with the span of 50 feet by 6 feet. But today what we are about to present is nothing short of tailor-made presentation of our iconic and invaluable contributions towards what has made people what we are today. Before the COVID-19 pandemic hit Point Seraphine welcomed in excess of 4,000 cruise ship passengers in a day. The shopping complex has also been open to locals for decades providing opportunities for income, commerce and the steady stream of customers for tenants. It is the largest shopping complex on island and one of the key points of entry. It will be the latest and possibly the most significant modern landmark in Castries. Our port will join the likes of popular international destinations like Cancun, Budapest, Amsterdam and Toronto who all have signs spelling out their city's names. Today we are introducing it to St Lucia's hair with us or watching online giving them a first glance to see our interpretation of what represents them. But we want this hard work by our artist Naja Simeon to have long-term return as well. Once this pandemic and protocols allow this mural will become a new item on any tours or tour operators itinerary. When our borders open, people returning home are coming to visit. Paradise for the first time will be welcomed from the sea and air and similar to when you see the pitots knowingly peeking through the airplane window our St Lucia mural will say hello with the same colour vibrance and love as our people. All St Lucia's are encouraged to visit Point Seraphim and take in the picturesque scene. The mural was done by Naja Simeon of Saki Productions known for numerous contributions to the community through art. From the Government Information Service Rogvaro Lawrence reporting. Prime Minister Hon. Alan Chastney is continuing to rally the international community to adopt the pre-testing approach to travel. Hon. Chastney was recently interviewed by Ian King of Sky News and highlighted St Lucia's management of COVID-19. The island's success, Hon. Chastney said, can be attributed to the pre-testing protocol along with the efforts of the Ministry of Health and public cooperation. British Airways will be starting a daily service to St Lucia in October. Right now we have about one-third of our hotels open. We're hoping to have about two-thirds of our hotels open in October. And by that time, as I indicated, that we should be seeing the opening up of our famous Sulphur Springs tours to our ketons hiking throughout the islands, our zipline operations. And so all those operations are being currently certified as we speak. And we're now, you know, on a huge crusade to really convince the airline industry to challenge them to adopt pre-testing as a prerequisite to traveling. We've certainly not seen the return to travel to the extent that we would like to. I mean, I was a vice president of marketing sales for Air Jamaica when we had 9-11. And it would be difficult to think that persons would have traveled if in fact the stringent security processes that followed 9-11 had not been implemented. And we think the same thing here. Airlines cannot fly with COVID social distancing, meaning the middle aisle free. It's just not economically feasible for them to do that. And I think it helps in a big way if persons are pre-tested, you know that you're going on a flight in which everybody's been pre-tested. And we have seen that that protocol has worked very well. This is NTN 90. Coming up, the Toco Foundation giving back. In an effort to ensure patient and first responder safety, the St. Lucia Fire Service has reviewed its patient transfer procedures, especially for patients with respiratory distress. Face masks will be provided. At no time during transportation should the face mask be removed. Please, be patient and cooperative during this time to ensure you receive the best possible care while keeping our first responders safe. Welcome back. The Toco Foundation has made another contribution to improving the lives of the nation's children. The They Often Cry Outreach Toco Foundation, founded by St. Lucia Artiste and Goodwill Ambassador Taj Weeks, presented the Ministry of Education, Innovation, Gender Relations and Sustainable Development with laptops and tablets to assist schools in meeting the demand for increased access to digital devices. The Foundation has donated to various sectors and organizations on the island before in the areas of at-risk youth, education, sports and health. Mr. Weeks expressed gratitude to all stakeholders involved in procuring the devices.  I mean, that is false, kind of under our mandate that we're here to help when help is needed. And, you know, we don't pick it from our backyard, we don't pick it from the fruit trees, we work hard to develop and I really truly appreciate everybody coming together and making this happen. Chief Education Officer and the Ministry of Education, Dr Fiona Meyer expressed gratitude to the Toco Foundation for their support. Today, we are so privileged to have received from the Toco Foundation devices for the use of our educational institutions across the island. And that gratitude we extend because we know that it was given with a genuine heart really looking at the educational attainment of our children. And so, as a department, we've always recognized that some of our limitations are limitations of the physical devices but more so access for our children to be able to gain educational attainment and not simply play on the devices. And so, this is why it was important to look at schools and look at a school set that can support quite a few children. So, it's not about individual children getting a device, it's about ensuring that the entire school population can benefit from it. The handing over of the donations by the Toco Foundation began on 27 July 2020 at the Ministry of Education headquarters. From the Government Information Service I am Anisia Antwan reporting. Meantime, the Toco Foundation through the National Youth Council's Pledge for a Child donated 200 pairs of shoes. Edison Lane is the Public Relations Officer of the National Youth Council. We are just grateful of course to Toco Foundation and of course to all the administrative individuals involved for bringing together this donation to the youth of Saint Lucia through the Saint Lucia National Youth Council Pledge for a Child. So, of course we appreciate it and we once again say thank you on behalf of the team put together for Pledge for a Child as well as the Saint Lucia National Youth Council executives and all of our body members. That brings us to the end of NTN Nightly. Join us next time at 7pm with a repeat at 7am. You can also catch up with us anytime on the Saint Lucia Government Facebook page or YouTube channel. I am Anisia Antwan.


Good afternoon everybody. This is Nicola Susman and we're back at Latin American Directions. Today we have the pleasure of having Salvador Erencia Carrasco. He's a Peruvian lawyer and the director of the Human Rights Clinic, Human Rights Research and Education Center, and part-time professor at the Faculty of Law in the University of Ottawa. And today we will be discussing about the current political, economical, and overall situation improved. So more or less six months ago President Pedro Castillo was elected and just this week he went through his fourth cabinet change and it's just not a couple of people, but a significant cabinet change. Salvador, how do we get here? First of all, hello everybody. Hello Nicolás and all the people here from Think Tech, how it's a pleasure to be here. We've gotten here because this is the result of four years of political institutional crisis. So this is not something new. Since the election of former President Pedro Pablo Kucinski in 2016, the country has gone through four presidents, a series of revolts, social protests that ended up in a very, in a conflictive election where it's left, a radical left and a radical right faced on a run-off. So in a way the election of President Castillo was in a way an anti-systemic vote. And given that the options that we had were not the best for someone to lead a country in the middle of a pandemic crisis, an economic crisis, and a political crisis. But now we're seeing Nicolás with the impact of this decision. Pedro Castillo defeated Keiko Fujimori and it was because he won, because he was running against Keiko Fujimori. Against any other candidate he would not have won or even made it to the run-off election. But now that he has been, was elected, we see that he and his party and the people around his party were not prepared to govern the country and that is what we're facing. The consequences of a decision that was made under certain circumstances. Right. Right. Something pretty common in Latin America, right? Usually you're looking at two candidates left, right, and then people end up voting against someone, right, instead of four. Yes, our curse of the lesser evil perhaps would be one of the, to sum up Latin American politics. And as you said, yes, this has happened in Peru. This will happen in Colombia this year. This will happen in Brazil later in the year. This is a way, unfortunately, our curse that that, that we have to choose between candidates that under other circumstances, they will not have stand a chance to run for the presidency of a country. Absolutely. Absolutely. And something very interesting to keep an eye on for the rest of the year, as you mentioned, an electoral year for many countries in Latin America. Now, this thing you say about Castillo not being prepared to govern, I understand, it's not just your perception that is something very frequent going on. So just to provide a bit of context, who's Pedro Castillo? Mr. Pedro Castillo is he is in his early fifties. He doesn't really have a, he wasn't even known until this presidential election at nationwide. He is a rural professor, school teacher in his home state of Cajamarca, which is in northern Peru. And he was a member or he ran for president because the head of the party, Peru Libre, free Peru, that would be the English translation, he was unable to run unknowable because he had, he was convicted for corruption charges while he was the governor of a state in this case, Honin, which is in the central Peruvian Andes. And that is the only reason why Mr. Pedro Castillo ran for the presidential election. And, and you can see that it was such a surprise to everybody that even when he made it to the runoff elections, TV stations didn't have his image to show that he was going to a runoff election. What this might be an anecdote or almost like an anecdote, it shows how this was a surprise vote and almost a rejection vote towards the other candidates that were running for president in Peru. Right. And wasn't there another option in this Peru Libre party that had a bit more experience or that were better known? From what we understand or from what we have seen in the media? No. Okay. And, and, but again, this is a party that, that identifies itself as Marxist-Leninist. Okay. So it's not center left. It's a left-wing party that identifies with this ideology and it is in its political platform. And parties like this, especially in the history of my country, in the history of Peru, where the memory of shining path or anything is slightly related to shining path, generates us direct with a clear rejection by all parties and all, and all elites across the political platform. This party usually gets one to two percent of the votes. But a different combination of factor, the pandemic for anybody, for anybody watching this program, Peru to this day, has the highest number of mortality due to COVID-19 per 100, 100,000, 100,000 people by a landslide. To this day, the economic crisis in the year, the first year of the pandemic, the economy shrank by almost 12 percent. Almost one million, one million people in nine months in 2020, slide back into poverty and extreme poverty. So in this context of rage, of frustration, to vote for the status quo was not necessarily an option and especially to vote for someone like Miss Keiko Fujimori, whose father is convicted for crimes against humanity and corruption. So these were the options that Peruvians had in an election that was carried during a pandemic in addition to all the political instability and crisis that had happened in the years before. Right. Now let's talk a bit about this cabinet changes. So it has been four changes in six months, right? What underlies these changes? The changes are, if there's a common thread to all these changes in the cabinet, will be the selection for ministers of people that are not minimally qualified for the job. And in addition to that, many of the choices of the executive to run a ministry were people that had serious allegations of corruption charges, sexual violence charges, among other different criminal procedures and investigations that were still ongoing. So, although this is not nothing new in Latin American politics, all countries have ministers that should not even be allowed out on the street. This was something that really, really, I think affected public opinion and also has fueled a lot of political division in the country because the alternative even to this day to this very weak and very erratic government is an extreme right that to this day, despite investigations at the electoral level, at the criminal level have no, have not found any sign of fraud in the runoff election, is still to this day, continues to say that the elections were not legitimate and that a party like this stole the election, which is completely in denial of reality. So, so this is all of this element and all of these questions, what the consequence that we have, Nicolas, is that we have any executive by a left government, just to put this, no, I don't mean to do any characterization is this is how they identify themselves, but a Congress that has is governed by the opposition, which is right and extreme right in certain cases. So, you have a proper, you have the proper ingredients for political confrontations. And even before Mr. Castillo was sworn into office, it was already talks on how to impeach him and under under under the constitution. Right, right, this claims about voter voting fraud, I think should ring a bell for for many of our of our viewers in the US and in the rest of Latin America, right, it has become the the easy way of keeping yourself now keeping attention in yourself and getting some air time, even if you lose the elections, right, and it's it's a very strong position. And in this situation, I've seen that this that the claim of the population is guess if I am both right, everyone must leave. Could you tell us a bit about it and what would be the options if everyone actually left? Well, I mean, I think I think there is a growing polarization. And neither the government, nor the opposition, are playing the long game or playing as market. I mean, in this in these six months, that the country has been under under the current government, many of the crisis that we've had, including this fourth changing cabinet, are mostly self inflicted crisis, whether it is the unduly appointment of ministers or prime ministers, whether it is the resistance to pretty much even publish the list of people that are interviewed or have an interview with the president, which is basic transparency laws in the country and not only in Peru, but in Latin America, across Latin America. So all of these situations generate a sense of a sense of tension and a political confrontation. Probably some of our viewers have read or have seen in the news that in almost three weeks ago, there was a big oil spillover by a Spanish oil company, perhaps oil, in the in the northern coast of Lima, the capital city. This is perhaps the biggest environmental disaster that the country has faced in the past 15, 20 years. And a week later, after the oil spill, where you need to think about criminal responsibilities, administrative responsibilities, you know, who is going to be in charge of cleaning up the mess, the oil mass, the pollution, the environment. What about happens to the fisherman, fisher person and the fisheries industries that are being affected by this spill? The government appoints as minister of the environment, a person whose only known job was to be a junior high teacher in in a small in a small neighborhood in Lima. Right. No, quite complicated, right? Even even for a left oriented government, this type of situation could be even a key opportunity, right, about multinational corporations and the resources and the environment. So it's a it's a very critical situation, right? And where does the population stand here? Like the common citizen, the common Peruvian, what are they thinking? How are they feeling? I think I cannot speak for Mike, for all Peruvians, but I do feel a sense of disappointment and anger because the country, if we put the political elements aside and the political crisis aside, the country's economy is slowly recovering. It is almost economically, economically almost at pre-pandemic levels. Peruv's percentage of people vaccinated is even higher than the average of the within the U.S. Okay. And just two or three weeks ago, Peru was invited by the organization, the OECD, to start formal negotiations for Peru to be a member of this OECD, which is the club of 38 countries, which are the most developed economies in the world. So in a context of pandemic and political instability, these are all overall good news for the country. But what we see is that instead of working, what can we do, okay, to keep this economic recovery going? What can we do so we can start strong, solid negotiations to be a part of this important international body that will contribute us economically, politically, et cetera? No, we cannot spend, we cannot work on these issues because we're worried of what is that the president, who the president will appoint, who, what other crisis the Congress run by the opposition will also govern. So there is no leading place. Okay, so there is no voice of reason in the midst of this political confrontation to, and I know that perhaps this will resonate with U.S. audiences, right, and other Latin American audiences that are hearing here. But a consequence that we have seen here or that I've seen in my country is that those that are center, whether you are center left or center right, are hated by the extreme. So those that try to see that not everything is black or white, these are the people that are in a way blame for all of these problems and all of this crisis. So this is what I'm seeing that instead of, and this happens also to the public opinion that we're not trying to figure out how to solve the problems. We're trying to see who to blame. Right. And that is not going to take anybody anywhere, anywhere positive. Absolutely, absolutely. And I don't know if that's the Peruvian experience, but what we've seen in many countries in Latin America would say even the U.S. is that there's no agreement in the center, right, to appoint or choose or unify around a strong figure that could offer people a reasonable option, right? As a Colombian seeing the elections upcoming, I have my convictions, I have my wishes, but I would say that at this moment what I would rather prefer is just a reasonable president, right? Someone reasonable, someone who would keep the boat steady and that's it. And then after everything stabilizes, maybe we can think of big transformations and so on, but just now steady the boat and address the most present situations that are reactivation, vaccination, the consequences for the most vulnerable of the pandemics. So I don't know if this is the same experience in Peru, but you don't have a true option, right? In the center, at least in Colombia, it's getting very complicated for the elections. Oh, we have corruption right square down the middle. Again, for the U.S. viewers, probably you heard of the car wash scandal, the Odebrecht scandal, that pretty much is responsible for the ousting of many presidents across Latin America because it shows the highest level of corruption by a Brazilian multinational. And we're still paying the impact of that, of the consequence to this day of these problems. So I think that there are different levels of corruption. And Nicolas and people from Colombia that are watching this program, they're the best to know what type of problems your country is facing. But in my case, in the case of my country, what we see is big corruption to petty corruption. And just to show you how petty it is, one of the senior advisors of the president was ousted because he was hiding 20,000 U.S. dollars in the bathroom of the presidential palace. This is the level of pettiness and corruption that we're facing in addition to the big corruption in other situations that have impact at the end of the day in those that need an efficient government the most. This is affecting social spending. This is affecting social programs. This is affecting, this is affecting AIDS that are necessary for Indigenous peoples, for people that are victims of violence. As you know, worldwide there is a huge increase because of the pandemic and restriction on domestic violence and sexual violence within the household. These people need help. But because of this economic crisis, help is not getting there. And this is what perhaps you want to think on whether if a president or not can be ousted, is that many of these people probably voted in favor of Pedro Castillo because of the language of social change, the rhetoric of change that we need to work, you need to decentralize the country because Peru is very centralized in Lima. And these are the people that are suffering the impact because you and I, we can discuss this and we can see theoretically what is the impact in the long run. But perhaps the Peruvians that are watching this show do not need financial aid, do not eat a social program to bring food to the table. And these are the people that are being affected. And that's what's the invisible impact of corruption and a weak government. Absolutely. Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. The human costs of corruption, right? Any reasonable person perhaps could think of this situation is just kick the guy out, right? And I think that's also the opinion of many people throughout America, not just Latin America, but America when they face presidents that could be considered like blatantly unfits for the church, right? And I think this immediately should ring a bell for our friends in the U.S., right? I know Peru has a story of ousting presidents and that the mechanism is not as complicated as it is in other regions, right? Could you tell us a bit about it? And could you tell us your opinion about it? Because my understanding is that even with this blatant situation and present situation, many Peruvians and many analysts don't think that would be the best option at the moment. But there's no better view than someone who's actually related to the situation, of course. Well, I think that under the Constitution, and we have 180 members of Congress, and under the Constitution, you can oust a president with only 87 votes. And there are different elements or categories under which a president may be ousted. One of them is moral incapacity. That to this day, we are not really sure what that means or better yet, the concept has evolved over time. This was used more in capacity to oust Fuhimori when he fled to Japan. So it was a way of his behavior that was involved in his government, his regime that was involved in corruption and human rights violations, including crimes against humanity and the forced disappearance of civilians. But then as the country in 2001 went back into a democratic streak, and to this day, for our audience, Peru is going through its longest democratic streak in its history. So this is almost like our democratic spring. And our country has, in a way, endure democratic regimes despite serious political and institutional crisis that we've seen in the past 20 or so years. So we have Congress that is run by the opposition can pretty much interpret, can have some wiggle room to determine when a president is or not morally capable to run or to continue in office. But as you said in your question, let's say that we oust the Congress oust the president, because there are corruption allegations and there are serious corruption allegations that must be investigated. But what is the alternative? We're less than six months or six months and a half into his presidency. So the vice president will have to take office. Then if we also oust the vice president, it will go down the chain of command. And we went through that in the past government, in the past administration, where the president of Congress was pretty much the one that a congressperson, Francisco Sagasti, was elected president of the Congress with a year or a year and two months before the term ended. And he was elected Congress just because he was the only figure that could get the necessary votes to be elected president within the Congress. Do we want that again? And if we oust the current regime, who's going to take over? What is the alternative? And again, so it goes back to something that we're talking at the beginning of our conversation, that we're focusing on who to blame and how to get rid of the problem or who to blame and how to oust the president. But are we really going to solve the problem? What is the alternative so that we don't go back into this almost Oroboros situation in six months from now, nine months from now? But Nicolas, just to conclude on this point, if there are merits to oust the president, so be it. Please, there is no doubt, at least from my end. But this cannot be just the criticism and the political confrontation between Congress and the executive must must be based on solid basis, not just because he's a left wing, etc., that doesn't deserve to be in the office. That is an opinion that you and I or many other people watching the show may agree on. But is that a reason enough to oust a democratically elected president? And just focusing on that. Absolutely, absolutely. And I think that's a very good note and a good thought to end our show on, right? First, the respect for institutions. I think that's the first thing and how swinging from administration to administration between extremes can bring enormous costs for the rule of law and how the rule of law can weaken between those extremes. And also how harmful it is for America, I would say because it's a closer region, perhaps the world, just to see the political spectrum and society in dichotomic terms, right? Left, right? We're just between two parties and letting the extreme swing the discussion, right? And the cost it has for the region, for democracy. And as rightly said, for the population, right? Who have expectations and hopes for any administration to do something. People need concrete solutions. People need social programs. People need some stability. People need the vaccination policies to continue. They have added, and I know we're almost running out of time, but one of the good decisions that the government made up until last week was to continue with the minister of health from the previous government and his office team. That's why we have such huge numbers in vaccination. The new minister of health in charge of the vaccinations programs does not believe in the vaccine. So who suffers this? Not you, not me, not the people watching at home. The people that really the vaccine could be the difference between life and death in their specific situation. Oh, that that's a lot of food for thought Salvador and a very, very important point. It's always about the less privileged citizens and the consequences of all this politics between privileged people and the index it has on them. Well, this was Latin American directions for tonight. Salvador Erencia Carrasco, thank you so much. And we will keep monitoring Latin America in two weeks. Thank you so much. Thank you, Nicolás. And thank you to everybody. I thank TechAway for having me. It was a pleasure. Thank you.


Do you have any advice for marketers or agency people or production people who are thinking about trying to tap some of this new technology that's progressing in the creative AI field? Use it. Don't be afraid of it. What we really try to do is control what our import source is in order to kind of dictate what is going to be created in the end. Filming or creating your own photography and then trying to evolve it on top of that gives you the most control in the creative output versus just like hey give me a picture and then 17th century oil painting. You can collaborate with it and I think looking for ways to continue to use the AI as a collaborative tool for your own thoughts and ideas is how you get the most out of it.


This 10th year of Daily Tech News show is made possible by you the listeners, thanks to all of you, including Paul Teeson, Ollie Sanjabi, Andrew Bradley, and lifetime supporter Michael Alt. On this episode of Daily Tech News Show, Dr. Nicky explains whether it's a good idea to use AI instead of people in some scientific experiments, plus Meta open sources its large language model at Microsoft's Inspire conference. We can explain all of this and more. This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, July 18th, 2023 in Los Angeles, I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Secret Bunker, I'm Sarah Lee. From Sweet Home Alabama, I'm Dr. Nicky Ackermans. And from where I usually am, I'm the show's producer, Roger Chang. Roger Chang, he is wherever he is. E-Bike maker Van Moof, we talked about it Friday, has been officially declared bankrupt. It's now under administration, looking for solutions. Let's see what else is in the quick hits. Maybe it's better news. Well, back in April, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a decision in Epic's lawsuit against Apple, finding that Apple's closed app store did not violate antitrust rules. However, the ruling also said that Apple couldn't maintain its anti-steering rules. That's what prevented developers from pointing users to alternate payment options. The 9th Circuit has now granted a motion by Apple to hold off enforcing that ruled for, on that ruling for 90 days, so that Apple can file a request for the US Supreme Court to take up the case. So Apple says, we are not letting go. Microsoft has a July 18th deadline to finish its merger with Microsoft's or with Activision Blizzard. Oh, that's right now, as I'm recording this. However, it's still waiting for UK approval. It could ignore the UK, that would risk a big fine. It could try to carve out the part of Activision Blizzard in the UK and acquire everything else in the world, but that would be very complicated. It could also just give up on the acquisition, which does not seem likely. Or it could get Activision Blizzard to agree to extend that July 18th deadline. Now that may sound easy, but deadlines exist for a reason. With the deadline passed, Activision Blizzard's shareholders could be free to entertain other offers. Sounds like a headache for other companies, but it's a possibility. They could also ask Microsoft to pay the breakup fee and just say, forget it, you know, but it doesn't sound like they want to do that. More likely, they would negotiate an extension. And if they negotiated an extension, the shareholders might say like, well, since we're giving you an extension, maybe increase the price a little bit. Activision Blizzard shareholders seem to want the merger to close, so they might just agree to an extension without asking for a price increase. But this is why you have the deadline, so you don't have to deal with all these questions. Right now, as of this recording, Microsoft is in negotiations with Activision Blizzard on an extension. And it's also talking to the UK Competition and Markets Authority about a way to get approval there. The UK extended its deadline for making a decision from today, July 18th to August 29th. So conceivably, if they can get Activision Blizzard to agree to August 29th, then it could all line up, except there's the outside factor of the USFTC having an evidentiary hearing on its objections to the acquisition, and that is set for August 2nd. So if they get an extension from Activision Blizzard, August 2nd is the next date to pay attention to. The 16 gigabyte variant of the GeForce RTX 4060 Ti is now available from Nvidia's ad-in-board partners. Apart from having twice the memory, the new model is more or less identical spec-wise to the 8 gigabyte RTX 4060 Ti that was released back in May. Nvidia shared benchmark results at 1080p, showing an increase in performance in several games over the 8 gig model, but didn't make pre-release review boards available. The 16 gig RTX 4060 Ti lists for $500, which is 100 more than the 8 gig version. Alright, we've finally got that one out of the way. The US announced a new thing called the Cyber Trust Mark, which is meant to signify that smart home devices and fitness trackers meet security standards set out by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, or NIST. Devices with this label should start becoming available in 2024. The Federal Communications Commission will administer the voluntary program, and a lot of retailers are taking part of this. A lot of device makers taking part of it. Amazon, Best Buy, Google, Logitech, Samsung, the Connectivity Standards Alliance, aka the Matter Standard folks. Devices will come with this mark on the box, as well as, and I found this part interesting, a QR code that you can scan to see if the device is still certified. Maybe it falls out of certification. You can check on that. The FCC has not determined how often it will go through and re-certify devices. Instagram head Adam Massari announced that due to an increase in spam on threads, the Twitter competitor, the platform would get tighter on things like rate limits. Saying it may unintentionally limit heavily active people. Massari also said any legitimate users impacted by rate limits should contact Instagram support. All right, and that is a look at our quick hits. Speaking of Microsoft, they're having a little conference today, aren't they Sarah? They are. So at Microsoft Inspire Conference, the company announced details on some chatbot features coming to Microsoft 365 business users. The Bing chatbot is getting support for visual search, meaning that you could upload an image as a prompt for more questions or discussion with the chatbot, that kind of thing. It's available on desktop and mobile first, coming to enterprise later, although Microsoft didn't say exactly when. But speaking of enterprise, Bing chat enterprise is going to give subscribers the same GPT-4 powered chatbot that you get in Bing search, but with added protection for commercial data. So chat data isn't saved. It's not used to train the models, the company says. Companies have been concerned about that when working with other companies on these sorts of things, when employees use the public version of Bing in Microsoft's situation in particular. It is available in preview now for Microsoft 365 business users at no additional charge. And Microsoft says it might sell it as a standalone product in the future for let's say $5 per user per month. That's what they said, yeah. Microsoft is not including co-pilot for Microsoft 365 in Microsoft 365 for free. You have to pay to add it. If you don't remember, Microsoft 365 co-pilot is powered by GPT-4. It can generate text in office documents, create PowerPoint presentations from your notes, help create things like pivot tables and spreadsheets, stuff like that. Yeah. So Microsoft also announced that co-pilot is coming to Microsoft Teams. So it can do real-time summarization of things like ongoing voice calls, dates, names, key points that you were taking from a meeting type thing. It can also suggest next steps. In Teams text chat, for example, it can pull out key points from chat threads and create lists or tables if you want it to do that. That sounds good, but it's not going to be free, right? Nope. Not going to be free. Microsoft 365 E3 E5 business standard and business premium customers can get Microsoft 365 co-pilot for $30 per user per month. That is on top of the existing cost of Microsoft 365, which for business standard is $12.50 a month on up to $36 per user per month for the E5, the three folks. So more than double the amount for some users of these Microsoft 365 products. Now, 600 enterprise customers have been in paid testing of co-pilot as an early access program. Still no official release date for widespread availability. They're just telling us how much it's going to cost when it does become widespread availability available. I'm curious what Google, Zoom, and Salesforce are going to charge for these chatbot additions because this is pricey and it makes sense. It's expensive to run large language models and it shows. Nicky, how useful are these kinds of productivity tools? You work in a large setting. It's an enterprise-like setting in an academic institution. Does it seem like these are worth the money to you? Well, large enterprises sometimes have money to waste and sometimes just try out stuff like this to see if it'll increase productivity. I assume if we ever get something like this, it will have guardrails in terms of even though they say they're not using your data, like not being allowed to use it for any kind of federal grant writing or things that haven't been made public yet. I could see it being super useful for things like automating email responses or like it said summarizing and then I can see it in other instances where the stuff that we do is so precise that a LLM won't be able to answer it because it's not something that other people have talked about before, if that makes sense. So I could see it on the advancing productivity front for really basic stuff. I don't know if the university is going to shell out for it. Yeah, university budgets can be wildly varying, so it kind of depends on which university, what department, all of that. We won't have to wait to see what meta is going to charge for this kind of stuff. Free is going to be Meta's price. At Microsoft Inspire, Meta announced it will open source its large language model Lama 2 under a Meta created license. So it's not one of the standards license, but it is an open source license. It'll be free for commercial and research uses. Qualcomm announced that it's going to take advantage of that and bring Lama to its chips. So laptops, phones, headsets starting in 2024 will be able to take advantage of Lama from Qualcomm hardware so that apps running on those devices could use Lama without having to go to the cloud to do a large language model. That keeps all your data local. That keeps it out of anybody else's hands.   You'll just go to Microsoft Azure, AWS, whatever you already have your account with, and you can install Lama 2 on those services. I guess that's one way to catch up to the competitors, right? Yeah, I mean, definitely. The whole sort of on device, let me give you the answer. You were looking for a type thing. I was trying to think about this earlier of like, so what scares me about this? I mean, nothing really. I think we're in such early days that we're all just trying to figure out how these tools are making our lives better rather than worse. But yeah, I could see a few years down the line a scenario where it's like, well, why'd you tell me that? Was that a Lama thing? Give me a human response. Reading your email and knowing that you're a part of the device that you have in your pocket that you use for so many other things, which we'll talk about later in the show. Lama won't be the only one available in your pocket. Certainly not. No, it's going to be coming to that. Talking to AI. I think what's more interesting about this to me is that Meta's Lama is definitely by all accounts not as good as Bard or GPT-4. So Meta decided to say, let's throw it open. Let's get some transparency around it. We can say it's about safety and reliability, which sounds great and it will be, but it's also a way to try to make up ground to get a bunch more eyes on it. The company wants people to use it so they know how to make it better. Exactly. 100%. Well, speaking of things that have possibly gotten better over the years, the Wall Street Journal's Ann Marie Alcantara wrote a story called People Have Begun to Love Apple's Most Hated Product. Okay.  What would that be? In this case, it's Apple Maps. Apple Maps, Maps launched back in 2012. Seems like a long time ago, but yeah. That's when it launched. Suffice it to say, people were not initially thrilled. Quite a bit of backlash to the point where Apple CEO Tim Cook issued an apology to customers in response to people saying this does not work as well as Google Maps or other Maps products. Also fired his head of software at the time. Now Alcantara mostly uses anecdotal evidence of people switching not hard numbers in this particular article, but she does mention that Canalus, which does a lot of data crunching, says that an overwhelming majority of iPhone users have installed Google Maps over a period of time. You know, you got Apple Maps, but Google Maps is better. For a long time, Google was the map to use unless you wanted to get lost or be late. I can remember a time where Tom and Veronica Belmont and I were meeting up and I was late and I used Apple Maps and Veronica was like, why'd you use Apple Maps? I was like, I don't know. But Apple Maps isn't necessarily awful anymore. In fact, some users think it's pretty great, has competitive features with Google Maps, looks good, has a nice design, very Apple. Apple's also adopted some functionality that Google Maps has had for years, Street View features, not exactly the same Street View that you would expect from Google Maps, but some kind of bird's-eye stuff. Also, the company announced at WWDC just last month that Maps features were coming to offline maps later this year. That's something that's really, really important, depending on where you are in the world. So smartphone maps have been essential for years now, but we also have maps that are part of our car software. You might be using maps on a desktop. So Nikki, I want to start with you. What do you use and why? So I have a Google phone, so I like to keep it in the same brand. So I use Google Maps and back when I tried out Apple Maps was a few years ago, I have to admit, but I found that it didn't work when I was in the middle of nowhere, when I was in a foreign country and I didn't know where to go. It kind of just defaulted me to the highway instead of the little country roads. So I just kind of from then on stayed with Google Maps. I've been told by some people that Apple Maps is okay. And I have a good anecdote that I've seen both the Google Maps car and the Apple Maps car, so I'm on the maps for both of them. You're literally on the map. I'm literally on the map, yeah. Yeah, I use Waze mostly. Actually, I go back and forth. If there's traffic, which in Los Angeles is most of the time, and I'm curious like, okay, I don't know what the best route is going to be with traffic and I want it to adjust on the way, I'm using Waze. If I'm just not sure how to get there, but it's close and I'm not worried about traffic, maybe it's 10, 15 minutes away and it's a new place, I will tend to use Google Maps for that because I don't need Waze to save me 30 seconds by, you know, routing me through six right turns around stuff and Google Maps tends to not do that. But a few times I've had iOS prompt me. I remember one time I was coming back from the vet like, ah, would you like to head back home? And I was like, oh, yeah, sure. And I found myself using Apple Maps on the way back home instead of Google Maps. One of the cool things about Apple Maps is if you're wearing an Apple Watch, it will kind of rumble and give you directions on your watch when you're near turns. Google Maps just started doing that too on the Apple Watch though, so they're starting to catch up on that feature parity. And the other thing that was cool is it was doing lane guidance better earlier on. I think Google Maps is getting better than that too, but like get into the second lane from the left to turn left kind of situation or after this stoplight at the next stoplight turn left.  And, you know, that works. But I often forget, especially when I'm in transit type thing. So I inadvertently was sort of like, oh, I'm actually using Apple Maps. Huh, weird. I didn't really even think about that. And it was fine. It was fine. What I did do, just because I was sort of curious about how it works, I have not opened Apple Maps on Mac OS, you know, on the desktop kind of ever.  And I mean, I really think that Google Maps still has Apple Maps beat by a long shot when it comes to street view and just the, you know, putting in a variety of like, how do I get from here to there? And what I got from it, I felt like Apple Maps got a little confused. But again, most of the time, I suppose, unless you're planning a trip ahead of time, you're on the go anyway. So you're probably on mobile or in a car. Well, folks, let us know what your map experience is. Feedback at DailyTechNewShow.com or just join the conversation in our Discord. You can join that by linking your Patreon account. Sign up at patreon.com slash DTNS. People worry a lot these days about whether AI chatbots can replace people. Usually that's imagined in a bad way, taking your job or something like that. But what if chatbots could replace people from being subject to experiments? An article by Matthew Hudson in science.org describes some efforts to use chatbots as replacements for human subjects in scientific research. Now, this isn't physical research. This isn't like poking the chatbots with needles or anything. How would you do that even? Yeah, yeah. Nikki is gonna, she's been following this story. Can you explain to us what's going on here? Yes, I can. My battery almost died. If only AI could take care of that. No, so I've been following this story a little bit and we'll start out by saying this is a new article that came out in the journal Trends in Cognitive Neurosciences this month. So we're talking about trends, not necessarily something that's happening exactly right now. But researchers from the Allen Research Institute and the University of North Carolina started looking at this idea of whether you could replace people with a chatbot. And initially, they were kind of doubting the capacity as was I when I read this article. And they asked some moral questions to GPT 3.5 about some moral scenarios.  And surprisingly, they got about a 95% assimilation rate about the same way that humans would answer this type of moral question. And they were honestly taking it back. They weren't expecting this at all. And especially the big point to this is that GPT 3.5 was able to, instead of having a black and white moral judgment of this is moral and this is a moral, they could kind of do more of a gray scale. For example, it could say murder is bad and lying is bad, but one of them is less bad. And until now, LLMs haven't really been great at that. So this is a pretty surprising finding. So would an AI be a good replacement for a human as a participant in a psychological study then? So of course, for everything AI, it would have to be a very specific scenario with very specific guidelines. And I'll give you an example. Let's say there was a study that was usually taking all data from tweets or skeets if you're using BoostGuy and all of the human data that's been generated forever on Twitter. And AI that was trained on all of the Twitter data since beginning of Twitter would be equally as good at answering this as someone mining human data, for example. Another example is using AI for customer surveys. This is something that people have less ethical ickiness about. If you're just asking GPT, is this a good price for my sneaker brand? And it comes up with that average answer of what people would say, people don't really seem to have an issue with that kind of application. That's still a kind of a research survey to a certain extent. And it wouldn't avowedly be lying the way people might lie. So yeah, that's a question that came up. And it wouldn't intentionally be lying, but because people do lie when they do things online sometimes and it's using that data, it might unintentionally be lying. But because it's making an average, it might even and out because yeah, it's being trained on those kind of data. A question for you. Just because you talked about something that might not be like that ethically an issue for folks. What is the most ethical issue when going through some of these scientific studies? I would assume it's probably medical data from humans? Yeah, you don't want to get personal data. You want to make sure that you have consent. You want to make sure that people can't get doxed. There's a lot of guidelines in place for psychological things. You want to make sure you're not causing psychological harm to people by asking certain things. That would be some of the standards. I don't do human psychological research, but I would assume those are some of the things that they have in place. I mean, I'm sure there's a huge book of guidelines of what not to ask people. And you could train GPT on that too, I guess. No, we're not talking about harm to people as far as like, oh, they're taking a drug that could have unforeseen side effects and damage them. So why replace people in studies at all? Well, like you mentioned, Sarah, if you're trying to avoid ethical things or being unethical, rather, you need to get ethical approval. And this is a large amount of paperwork. It's extremely time consuming. I'm actually trying to get ethical approval to use animals right now and it's taking months and months and months. So for humans, it's way more complicated. And if you're just trying to ask about sneakers, sometimes you maybe want to avoid that. And so it will definitely make things faster.  You can't have multiple copies of the same opinion, right? But it would help in these sort of impractical and unethical situations. You could ask an LLM really unethical stuff that might traumatize it, but it doesn't matter because it's an LLM. All right, is anyone doing this? How far along are we? Well, we're not super far yet. So the people, like you said, the robots aren't taking your job if you're someone who's doing human test subject stuff. But to the point that you could probably implement this when you're testing out your study. If you're doing a pilot study and you're trying to figure out what questions to ask people, you could compare some of your data against the LLM data and see if it tracks or even just see if it makes it glitch or if it can give the answer that you maybe would want to get. Researchers are comparing this to the jump from doing in-person surveys to online surveys and how nobody thought it would work because you can't get reliable data from the internet. So this might be, you know, in very specific scenarios. This might be a possible thing. Well, yeah. Go ahead. Just to wrap this up, one of the things that I thought was most enlightening to me as a human who is odd, unreliable and biased is that we all are. So if you are trying to, you know, get, you know, for example, some, you know, FDA approval for something and a language model might be at least not necessarily better at this, but something that will will push the average, the, you know, the project forward. Yeah. That, you know, this could, this could, it would obviously be depending on who you are, you would either like that or not, but this could make a lot of things happen in a more streamlined way. Yeah. And you can even use it as a check or as a control too. It couldn't, you won't do your experiment all on LLMs unless that's what you're studying, right? But it would be a helpful check. I think where we have to be careful is in all of these things that we're putting in place to stop it from offending people in public, which I'm not saying are bad. You need to be able to turn them off when you want to simulate people because people are offensive. And so if you're, if you want to simulate actual people and all the horrible things they say, you shouldn't be filtering the things that a lot of these companies are filtering in their public versions of that. Now there's differences between public and research versions of that, but that was a part of this article on science.org that I hadn't thought of before. That that's an interesting thing to consider here. Yeah. And I really went into this thinking like this is so dumb. Why are we using AI to create psychology? And then reading more about it, I was like, you know, this could save some researchers a ton of time. And I kind of wish I had an AI goat to test my model on before using the real thing. So I can see this happening for sure. Well, continuing our AI, AI speak on the show, more than just chatbots or image generators or helping Nikki with her science or even your future replacement. It's also being used to help endangered species. And Chris Christensen is here to explain more. This is Chris Christensen from Amateur Traveler with another Tech in Travel Minute. Thanks to Travel Weekly. I have a travel story that involves AI, but it doesn't strangely enough involve chat GPT. In South Africa, they've started to track rhinos with collars that are not just DPS enabled, but also have AI to learn the behavior patterns of a specific rhino. And then when they see that rhino behaving differently, it can trigger an event that might mean a poacher or a birth or something else odd going on and where that rhino is so that rangers can respond rapidly. And that could save the rhino's life. And so next time you go to Africa, if you see rhinos, it might be because of AI. This is Chris Christensen from Amateur Traveler. All right. Thank you, Chris Christensen. Good bet that at least a little bit good news chaser is there. You know, it turns out I'm actually going to do something similar to that with my goats that we're going to have a machine learning program learn their behavior and flag it for me. So I don't have to go through it individually. So maybe I should move to rhinos actually. Maybe. That's that's Dr. Headbutt doing rhinos makes sense to me. Yeah, start with goats, stay for the rhinos. All right, let's check out the mailbag. All right, Marty wrote in about the concept of chat GPT because we can't stop getting off the subject, getting worse over time in his experience. Marty says, I've used it daily since it came out I pay for plus and I've been feeling in the last month it's become worse to the point that it's making me Google things again seems to have a shorter memory span it within the last month. I used to be able to say I'm working with framework XYZ and carry on a conversation debugging troubleshooting things for the length of that conversation. But keeps happening lately after two or three messages, it'll forget one of the three frameworks that I mentioned. I find about once every three messages or so it ends up saying sorry for making a mistake where that would happen every few conversations a few months ago. Marty says finally, it started suggesting code that's basically the same thing that I gave it initially. But it thinks that that's the solution. All right. It is interesting to me that most of the people who find that it's worse are the people who paid. That could be because they're paying they get GPT for GPT for is powering Bing. That's where I was going next exactly. Yeah. We should ask we should do a psychological study using GPT. We need a little double blind here. Nikki the goats. Yeah. Get them to weigh in work it out. Well, Dr. Nikki Ackerman's goats and all we're so glad to have you on the show. Let folks know where they can keep up with the rest of your work. 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I thank you very much to Alex and his colleagues for putting together what I think is going to be a really interesting session over the course of this morning. I'm going to talk today about castles and cultural landscapes and studying cultural landscapes as a way to bridge the disciplinary divides between the study of landscapes and buildings. I'm going to look at how I'm studying cultural landscapes through the process of deep mapping. Deep mapping I'll introduce in a moment, but I find it sort of experimenting with it at the moment, and I'm finding it quite useful to overcome the conceptual and disciplinary divisions in the study of cultural landscapes. I'm going to start with, admittedly, an inconclusive overview of cultural landscapes to sort of have a look at how we got to this fragmented state, because I think sort of looking at how the study of cultural landscapes developed the way to overcome that fragmentation emerges from that discussion. So cultural landscapes that can be considered the interface between nature and culture, so the interface between tangible and intangible heritage, the interface between natural and cultural diversity. So it's an interwoven set of relationships, the essence of culture and peoples identity. In that way then, we can think of cultural landscapes as the fundamental link between humankind and its natural environments in the past, and local communities and their heritage in the present, and we're going back to this description at the end of the paper. So as I said, looking back at the development of cultural landscape studies, thinking promulgated by German geographers in the late 19th century really ignited the discussion of the study of landscapes as space shaped by people, and that was very much in opposition to the physical determinism of geography at that time. This was followed by the development of buildings archaeology which stemmed from architecture, technology and art history, so pretty separate to the cultural term in geography. And then from the 1990s onwards really there was a landscape term in archaeology, and that sort of brought in lots of great knowledge on how communities have reacted to landscapes and how they have impacted landscapes. But really all of these things sort of developed in isolation from one another, and what we're left with is separation, isolation or sometimes unequal emphasis. And this is perpetuated by what is sometimes not across the board of course, but there is sometimes a communication gap between the academic research and the heritage research. And this results in a number of limitations of course. Many of you in the papers today have showed that the variety of limitations will be discussed. But from my point of view as a buildings archaeologist who looks at medieval buildings at risk, particularly from climate change, the limitations include how this unequal emphasis impacts our preservation, our conservation and our climate change mitigation. So that is some of the issues that we're facing. But what really drew me to this session was how we can reconnect landscapes and buildings and how we can synchronize scholarship with public understanding. And I'm going to sort of talk about that through the presence of a case study. And the case study is Dunedore Castle. More accurately it's a late medieval Irish tower house. And it's located here in Cape Claire in Cardi Cork. Cape Claire is an island off the west coast of Cardi Cork. It's the most stuttering occupied part of Ireland. It's about one hour away from the mainland. Ireland is the exact opposite end of Ireland. So to me it sort of feels like going to the very edge of Ireland. And this is what the castle, the tower house looks like today as of this summer. And you can see why I really wanted to study this castle. It's precariously placed on this short promontory. It's isolated. It's unconsolidated. It's quite clearly at risk of it from the Atlantic and the associated storms, tidal surges, high winds and so on and so forth. It was once connected to the mainland of Cape Claire of the natural cause by collapse in the 1830s. Dunedore Castle was built by the Augustals along with a number of other tower houses in the area. The Augustals derived from the Corkillee, which is the second phrase there. The Corkillee were a kingdom who were very prominent in the early medieval period in the West Cork area of Ireland. But over the course of the medieval period the Corkillee contracted and really their influence didn't extend far beyond West Cork after sort of the 7th century. In 1103 there's an illicit reference to Anodrisco. He was king of the Corkillee at this time, the early 12th century. But from sort of the high medieval to the late medieval period the Orducicles also contracted and their influence really extended throughout this West Cork area and less so throughout Ireland. So Dunedore Castle means golden fort, Dun means fort. And this tentatively suggests that it was built on the site of an earlier promontory fort. It's up to me to show you. So you can see in this image of the tower house, the south-east extent has collapsed. There is a small part of the tower here, part of which is remaining. Here you can see quite beautifully preserved a mural staircase so on a stair set within and a picturesque on the walls. In this image you can see on the second floor there's a stone built right from this part of the wall wall that excels in some places. Back to the first image, you can see those are currently preserved bones so they're extending away from the irons on this side. And there's a smaller bone on the eastern side of the tower house there. So Dunedore, sort of the summary you can see from the pastures, the cliff edge encroaching the castle, parts of it are starting to collapse into the sea, such as the extent of the wall there on the north. There's the tower house there, the extent of the wall, the smaller bottom. There's a number of other small buildings, parts, it's got to go broad, there's a well, a brazier and all of it. So bits and pieces are surviving. For those of you who are aware of the archaeology of medieval Ireland, I see some Irish colleagues here today. You may know that tower houses are an incredibly commonplace in Ireland. So this tower house isn't necessarily architecturally significant so why am I talking to you about it today? Firstly it's because it's incredibly at risk, this is a risk of falling into the sea in the next couple of decades or more collapsing into the sea. But it's also really interesting how it relates to the wider cultural landscape. And my method of observing this castle, trying to understand this castle, I'm using the process of deep mapping. I had to admit deep mapping, it's not new nor necessarily innovative. It's essentially a GIS, like a bolder variety of data, so maybe a variety of 100 different data sources for one site. It's essentially a method or an approach to try and include as many different views and different perspectives of a site over a deep time perspective. But my views as of producing deep mapping for this particular castle was because I wanted to use a citizen science approach. So I wanted to include the community of Cape Fair Islands and integrate their viewpoints, their perspectives and also their research questions into the project. And I wanted to do so on fully embracing interdisciplinary. Thirdly though I wanted to create an online resource whereby people could digitally visit the site which is no longer physically accessible. So as I said a deep mapping holds a variety of sources. So some of the more traditional sources that one would use when examining a building, some cartographic examples. I really like this, this is one of the more beautiful cartographic references to Cape Fair. This is a Dutch map from 1612 which includes navigational instructions to seek out the pirate havens of Cape Fair as translated from Old Dutch there by Pelagher. And you can see our island of Cape Fair in the depiction of the castle and that entire area is called Rory Motor Bay. Other 17th century sources, there's another record to Cape Fair on Anglicized Northern War. And here at the level of the tarmands there's the depiction of Cape Fair and more like a castle on a tarm house. And there's some references to early medieval sites within the island. And here in the land terrier it says that Dunnor was occupied by Tide or Driscoll. So remaining in the Driscoll family who built it some 300 years prior to this 17th century source. But thinking about deep mapping and the ability to pull in lots of different sources and thinking about embracing interdisciplinarity, I wanted to look at some different sources which reference Cape Fair on the Rory Motor Bay area. There's this poem from the 19th century which says, the white grass of Gaspidian. And that's a word which derives from the 13th century describing the water of Rory Motor Bay. And so that actually predates the, the term predates the building of the castle. And also this 18th century reference that described visiting the castle of Dunnor as resisting not alone the fury of the elements, but also defying the aggressive attacks of the human foes. And I'm really fond of it because the weather is absolutely the same like the people of Cape Fair or nothing but war, I'm going to show you. So the reason I was really keen to use deep mapping and pull in all these different sources was because it democratizes data. So it doesn't sort of push anyone narrative whenever you collect all these sources. So from the building surveys, the land surveys, the maps, the poetry, the information on natural diversity, it treats all of that information as the same. So as a researcher too, that forces me to step outside my bias and not only sort of focus on the fabric, on the elevation drawings and as a building psychologist, that's what I'm sort of want to do. But so as a researcher too, it forces one out of their comfort zone. And as an output then, whenever this is all online and all these sources are digitally accessible, it doesn't push one narrative to the digital visitor. So the digital visitor will be able to create their own narratives through this amount of democratized data. So it's ontologically flattened away. And a way to demonstrate how this has pushed me out of my comfort zone, I'll talk about some of the other castles built by the address skills. I think there's about 12 that they've built in Aurora Bay, which is the entire area on the coast of the West Fork. And some of the castles here is done Michelle, the largest of their castles, it's done along on the top left. That's our castle done in Aurora Bay, and they're also built to done the gall. So all of four of their 12 castles use this word done, which means fort. It indicates that they may have been built on the site of an earlier palm tree fort. What's really interesting if you're pulling together all this information, the place in evidence suggests there could be earlier forts here. But the archeology, the archaeological evidence, there's no archaeological evidence for any of these four castles having been built on an earlier site, although there is some tentative evidence for done Michelle, but that's the only one. So it's sort of weighing that up, but then we bring in the oral histories as well. And the people of Cape Fear that I've been working with on the case of Don Norr are adamant that it was built on the site of an earlier palm tree that was built by the corkally, who were that larger king dead from the early medieval period. So it's really interesting democratizing data and giving equal emphasis to all of these things it feels like a bit of an experiment really. So democratizing data, it aims to force in different perspectives. And it's a reminder that individuals experience places in varied and multiple ways and encourages you to include all that in the research process. And while in a GIS platform, we can't include the extent of the complexity of any site across time, but it does give a renewed sense of the depth of meaning through this process of democratization. So in summary, this process of deep mapping, I think actively reconnects buildings and cultural landscape and research. And just calling back to the development of the discipline of cultural landscape studies from earlier in the paper, how does deep mapping relate to that? And I think really it's a process of pulling in multidisciplinary sources in a way which reduces the likelihood of bias or disciplinary favoritism. So for myself, not focusing on the extant fabric of the building but thinking sort of more outside the box. I want to close now with just turning back to the description of cultural landscapes as the fundamental link between humankind and its natural environments in the past. And I want to just, what I said earlier about there being many tar houses in Ireland and although this has never really been said, in the earlier studies that focus just on the fabric of Donnellor Castle, there tends to be an undertone of it's just another tar house. And I find that by sort of zooming in and really embracing the depth of the cultural landscape, it steps out, it forces us to step outside that and not regarded as just another tar house we have so many of them, lots of them are in real condition, but really it provides a much more enhanced understanding of our past. Likewise then, cultural landscapes as the link between local communities and their heritage in the present. And this is what I really like about this castle. On one hand, we have a castle that has been possibly overlooked by the archaeological sector, the heritage sector and in academic research, but on the other hand, the castle and its cultural landscapes have in no way been overlooked by the local community. This is a picture from an early O'Driscoll gathering in the 1960s. So this is where all the contemporary O'Driscoll clad meet in the area of Roaringwater Bay for an annual meeting, so people with the surname O'Driscoll at its derivatives. And this is an annual event that still takes place today. And I was chatting to some of the people who go along to this and on one of their recent heritage trails of this annual meeting, they went to all the castles, all the O'Driscoll castles including Don and Orr. So they're still re-enacting the relationship and performing the relationship between the castles and the cultural landscape. So to them, it hasn't been overlooked at all. So I'm going to close on that point then. And in conclusion, while there may be too much space between buildings and cultural landscape in the heritage sector and in academic research, it's clear that that isn't the case within the local communities. They're constantly re-enacting and performing this relationship. So in order for us to reconnect castles and landscapes and to synchronise scholarship with public understanding, I suggest we begin by stepping outside of our disciplinary and academic boundaries. Thank you.