Rowdy fuckers cop killers in getting over with Bennett Foddy. Yeah, I don't know what this game is I don't know. I don't know what's happening right here.  It's an art piece. This game is an art piece You know, I'm just gonna start at the beginning because like progress doesn't mean anything Okay, oh This is charming. I love this. It's way charming.  I don't care about like low-poly 3d models I care about 3d models that are like creepy and scary and uncanny about that's kind of that's kind of 3d art That I like that's kind of that's kind of part of the point of this game. This game is like the theme of this game is Well, actually I can explain a little I know a little bit about the history there was this there was this other like flash game called a Sexy hiking that is okay very similar in in many ways to oh It's very similar in many ways to getting over it and you just but it was made out of like pre Pre-made assets for other games that were like stolen and This game is also it's made out of like mostly There's no feeling like brought unity assets Great if you deleted your homework the day but that's like I don't like the narration of the game talks about how like And you have to go back after spending an hour in the game is if you want some money at the casino trash Because it's built out of like trash assets that were cobbled together for other things like clean before and like and then immediately Yeah, I don't know. I've lost my trip I can't if you want an argument with the guy Bennett Foddy will explain it better than I can you know Well, it's a good thing.  It's don't worry.   Can you can you imagine trying to parse what we've woven here?  Yes. Well, welcome to welcome to the past It's now now you got now It's time to go on an extensive YouTube search and find all the previous rowdy fuckers content and then go over to the twitch and experience that experience We're playing over on twitch.   But also this what you're doing right now is agonizing to watch unfurl Yeah, yeah, that's kind of that's kind of the point Okay, I mean, I okay when we started recording. I was here and Then like I was testing the audio and I was just kind of flailing around And I threw myself over that boulder over on the left there and I ended up back at the start screen This is I think okay.  Yeah Okay, well, perfect.  I didn't even know but this game has like themes and you know Like who has the theme of like like like mental retardation not being in control of your own body And Okay, so So I'm up the devil's chimney and it's kind of it's kind of smooth sailing from here From here.   Don't let me fall back down the devil's chimney Well, okay, okay, let's go out like like what like what we're doing on twitch Like not just the basic like where we're doing pokemon xd But but I forget who thought of the idea first But one one of us came up with the idea of doing Because it made sense because all Are like super fucking long and all like like sort of meandering and like fluid not like structured Let's play content anyway, and it made sense to make them do like be strange And so yeah, it was your idea and it was the best idea It's when like when you said it and when I saw like the the the twitch channel with all the art and stuff there I was like this is kind of Way more logical Than than youtube than youtube videos. Yeah, so we're testing out streaming We we're still gonna do like youtube videos We don't really have a schedule right for respect to those the brand is to not have a schedule basically But uh, we're gonna we're gonna test out streaming and see how much we like it Uh, and then we're gonna decide if we want to do YouTube videos still or we want to do twitch streams There's there's there's pros and cons to each side and As as I keep saying to to remind us of our roots as I am But both the procrastinators and the referee scop killers tribune of the plebs always looking out for the little guys Uh, the the sheer ecstasy That fans get when they just log on to youtube one day and just by chance They've been blessed with the new referee scop killers and just like like they have not seen this be record They do not know any step of the way like like what's been transpiring here All they know is that one day instantaneously they just have like six hours of content Brand new to the to their virgin on the live stream Like it's like So you announce it on on twitter that it's happening and then they get themselves a mentally and then they and then they are like Forced in a way to like watch it live and and and like like It feels even though the streams have been shorter than ever exact killers They feel like they've been longer It's like streaming on streaming on twitch with like um, you know notifications and stuff it feels like It feels like high stakes in a way, you know Like like like you're in like you're in the thick of it right then And you you have to be engaged or there could be disastrous consequences You know what it is it's it's that when it's just We're recording a video. It's just me and you and we're just talking but when we're training there's like a silent third party who like Who like is Talking but only in text. Oh god.  It's just me and you and we're just floundering constantly and we don't mind Yeah, and we're and we're not funny and we don't entertain anyone. Yeah, exactly I do there's a lot of obvious good with a twitch though But like I said, it makes sense the kind of content that we do And and and it's just nice. No, no. Oh god. Oh god.   I got a firm Handhold a firm hammer hold. Yes You're like bouncing this game.    It's got the um, it's got the um Yeah, it's got that like super Like frustrating like screamer kind of appeal where someone can can pretend to freak the fuck out for kids And they'll have fun But it's also got that like goat simulator absurdity to it Yeah How distasteful it is the perfect it is the perfect, um stream game So it's great that we're playing it on youtube instead We are kings of marketing we know more than anyone could ever know I People think that we're making poor decisions, but we're just on a completely different level than they even are aware of We're we're playing the long game. We're we're playing chess and they're playing checkers I completely forget Oh god Oh christ, I completely forget um how I did this before I have done it Want me to look up a walkthrough? Um, oh god. Yeah, if you want to go and like look and This is this is real genuine fear.    I I just opened up a youtube video and like the loudest sound I've ever heard in my entire life Was this guy going like hey, what's up youtube? And what was up youtube? What was the answer you're seeing because like because I immediately muted it Oh god. Oh god. Oh boy Okay, okay Yeah, I have made I've made it past this part like maybe like the part with the the stairs up there I've made it past that maybe like three or three times or something All right.     Oh god. This is always the case. Oh god. Always the case. Oh my god. Oh, I could I could not have fucked that up more.    Ah, yes good old youtube much better than twitch great Okay, okay. Happy d has spoken Yeah, we know happy d's opinion on the subject. I don't know. I mean Well, we don't have to do just one or the other right Yeah, we don't They've both got their merits I want we could do like a like a monthly We could do like a monthly stream and like a monthly Video, I guess I oh god I mean, I think we should uh We we should we should definitely stream all of xd. Like yeah, that's what I was gonna say. We should finish that at least Ah balls I don't think I like about streaming is that allows us to like do like long for games because whatever your character is like Structure on youtube videos really incentivizes us to just do exclusively one shots. Yeah.  But just something about it feels right Uh Excellent rebuttal I'm sorry.     I think it's even more like defining Yeah, because because because the rowdy fuckers cop killers now has a canon. There is now a there is now canon There is more I was actually like in my mind before this server Was created I was pretty adamant in the Of the fact that like like reference calculus should not have lore because I was surrounded by so many shows that had like Like obtuse and absurd lore But now that it no does just by nature That's just the way that me and ben make things is that we fill it with fucking lore to the brim Yeah, I'm so happy and it has literally the best lore of any narrative ever created Yeah, it's um, I've been really getting into it and I've been like into it super hard I've just been reveling in like all of the all the shit people have made And all of the art of slime city actually I have a I have a Grievance not a grievance, but I have a concern Which is that I don't know if I like the name slime city It's I don't know if I like it either.  You think so. I think I think both of them Leave something to be desired when I was making Like like like I I may I made like a like a map for uh the setting of reverence.  Yeah. I'm I don't I don't like slime city either. It was just it was just I don't know. It felt like a placeholder name. They just kind of caught on Yeah, oh god I feel like if we do want to change it, we should change it now. We don't want to have it be solidified You know, we don't want to we don't want to let that slime settle Slime city can always be like You know the nickname for it like the like new york is the big apple The big slime the big slime Turn it I don't know. What what can we call it? um New delta city No, I'm pretty sure that was in robocop Great. Yeah Los angeles too Los angeles too Um New los angeles city new los angeles city too Um neo I I kind of like new los angeles city.   Um, oh neat neo spokane Spokane Oh That's not bad. I like neo.  Yeah And like vaguely imply like relation to like a populous city Uh You know milwaki too in the deserts of arizona Oh happen again. Mm. Keep on trying. Don't Bullshit It's not that bad. You're you're at down to level one again Yeah, but the I have to do this part.   There is a there is a an obelisk standing in the Oh Yeah, it's not it's not a pyramid. No, it's been depicted as a pyramid because people have misinterpreted the avatar Yeah, which is understandable. Yeah, but it's an obvious think think like the washington monument only way better. Yeah Uh, there's an obvious called endless war and uh, I I don't know if we have Concrete rules, but just know that he that he washes over as constantly and he uh, and he fuels gang warfare In in ways even we can't fully articulate. We we don't fully understand endless war We know that the bodies of the dead are like Put into him and they like power him somehow and he like regurgitate slime Um and other than that, you know, it's all pretty it's all pretty much open to interpretation Is this real is this metaphorical is endless war an actual thing or just a discord server bar Server, uh, bot that we have made to troll each other online.  Oh my god. That was really funny.  This is nerve-wracking. Yeah, imagine what it would be like to be you I beating this game Would be Just so me, you know That would be so that would fit your aesthetic so hard Yes Being the guy who's like, oh, yeah getting over with then it thought yeah, I beat it took me like a couple weeks But I did it whatever Wasn't even that hard. Yeah, you know, you just get into a groove.  No, this game is art This game is art art art maybe terrible. Yes. Oh god.  Okay. Okay. I have to stop. I don't feel like look away from the screen That's why I stopped doing a streamer noises.   Hey, should we like talk about should we like talk about what the actual server is now? Yeah, it's it's well, it's yeah, it's a it's a game now. Um It's been turned into a game It is uh, it is a site of gang warfare. You can go there.  Um just today. Okay. Okay. So a little a little history There was a there was a long period there where like I took I took the lead Um and like a pretty commanding lead for a while there Um in overall slime count. Yeah in overall slime. I was at like three million in something and you were at like one and a half million Um, so then yesterday with the new patch The casino patch there's now a casino where you can gamble your slime on on craps and the slot machines Um all with any discord server by the way, this is all in a this is all in the discord server Um, so there's that and I just gambled away like half a million slime betting on craps And losing every time and then today Um, you you orchestrated a scheme with one of your rowdies To kill one of the most powerful juveniles I organized with one of my most trusted mercenaries the dreaded player Ready player one that is his official name. I've contracted the the the the merciless mercenary ready player one He's in my he's in my league Yeah, so um So that all happened. So with my losses and your sudden gains. We're now like way closer I'm at like just over three million and you're at like what like 2.6 million Yeah, 2.6. Okay So, uh, yeah, I I designed some of these people I got I got some of these people are looking like a snack.  Also. Nice job. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah Well, they're treating it like it's chess But the thing is that the the rules keep changing because uh, oh the new patch dead players can now haunt the living from the sewers They can steal their slime and actually crack just implemented um cracks the developer by the way Um, he just implemented a thing where now Dead players that haunt they gain negative slime.    I'm super into that. Okay. Good good Oh god.  No, mother fucker Dude, I got a hollow lord of ghosts the other day in a booster pack.       Yeah, actually.  I'm gonna have myself.  There's nothing we can do but mega slime achieved Yeah That's gonna be that's like brainblast. But like now it's mega slime achieved when you have a really potent thought Whenever whenever, you know when when when you've made strides when you've made strides towards conquest mega slime achieved But like you're also afraid of the consequences I feel like like like i'm almost I'm really Excited, I guess I would say to see what the viewer is like like what you like the modern day viewer Like if you're seeing this on like day one What does endless war look like to you because it's like a constant state of like development right now And we're not totally happy with it, of course. No, so like we're continually updating it So like what does it look like for you? Like like maybe some of these maybe some of these concepts are like defunct. Maybe you can't haunt players anymore Maybe we decided that that is not like streamlined enough I don't know anything's possible. Uh, man me and crack A while ago we were we workshops.  Oh god, uh, but I just want to oh no, no Are you watching this by the way? Yeah.   Oh, yeah. Yeah You guys have been doing insanely great like like constant work Like much much like endless work itself You guys have endless work and uh, it's really endearing and nice and I'm glad you've dedicated yourself to this goal Yeah, I am I'm way into it I like okay I try to do as much as I can like All right, like before endless war I was talking about endless war before it was real and like I was doing my best.   I'm getting frustrated with Bennett. I can tell you're foment.  There are like seven killers. There are three Rowdies Why is this the case?  It is it's It's disgusting frankly. It's uh, you know, it's subversive In all the ways that rowdy fuckers itself is not It's all the wrong types of subversive. We're all the good parts. Yes We've got the market cornered on subversiveness. Everyone else needs to quit right now We've called them all the subversiveness.  I like what you got going on here kid But I think That we need to have like like a conference where we like where we like We try and like streamline and like simplify things and and like understand like Like design philosophies because right now it feels It's not like actually but it feels bloated and I think and I think that we can like we can we can get to the point We're like all the like we can get to the point where it is Literally go home coons work and all of like the ends tie to one another and like it is narratively and like aesthetically sound and and like in in one Wait because I feel like there there are some mechanics that kind of like are dead ends and aren't really cohesive with the overall Like design if you know what I'm saying Uh, like what what do you what do you mean? The the dojo specifically the dojo the dojo is the dojo was kind of A stopgap measure to like keep players doing things like even The dojo was an attempt to stop stagnation because players that had aligned with a faction had nothing to do So the dojo was like okay. Well, you can't mine for slime, but you can spar and like it's something But yeah, it doesn't really do anything except except get you a little bit of slime and then like flag you for pvp So it is kind of an under Yeah, okay. I'll admit that sparring is underdeveloped and doesn't Really serve that much purpose at the time. Oh god. Jesus Okay, okay, you know what you're sure to be happy again and knowing I'm okay with that. It's all okay. It's all right less miserable now Abraham Lincoln I I think like we just need we just need to examine What we want the game to be unlike the average like like what we want the day-to-day of the game to be and like what are the design that we want to entail because I What I want is for the day-to-day To I want to return in any way that we can to the like 20 killers and 20 routies Yeah at any given time. I want okay.   I I mainly just want There to be like like again there to be you know a healthy number of each gang Yeah, and I feel like there has to be some sort of like Because because the invulnerability for not doing anything is like fine and that's like a fine solution Yeah, but it's just there's just too many there's just too many corpses with with corpse pride Not wanting to do things and there's too much There's too much like people just not doing things.  I really love it because that's like that's like a use for slime Yeah, like even though like the the actual benefit of it is just to get more slime Yeah, you can like spin the slime on something.  Let's go back to like like the general design I want My my ideal server would be where like the the main Brute like like like brunt force of the gang warfare is verbal and shit talking that is punctuated By like frequent but not constant war You know, I'm saying a lot of like a lot of shit talking and like when someone is mad They can kill you and people do get shot over these like scuffles Yeah, yeah, yeah It's it's it's just hard to I almost feel like a part of it is like cultural How do you like I feel I feel like if we like instill what we want into the fans They may do what we want If you know what I'm saying, obviously we should have the system itself be prohibitive and and you know Make it so like like it what we want to have happen happens But I almost feel like in a way they like people feel incentivized to just constantly kill And I feel like there like there are ways that we could like just societally Say to chill out possibly. I'm not entirely sure but I feel like We can do something.  Okay. Actually actually wait.  It's a little imbalanced, but it might be overall better than what we've got Yeah, maybe I I I think one of the biggest things is that Juvies even though they have new protections and are basically considered filled within our government system They like have the most to do Like like mining is like a huge thing and they can do it constantly and and that's where all that's like what the economy is like based upon Yeah Whereas like gang fraction members like kind of don't really get to do anything Yeah, that's why that's why I thought sparring would help and it kind of did a little I I think Okay, I've not thought this through. Yeah, but I'm I'm thinking Because this will help the numbers system as well If once you enlist you are enlisted like You know forever and once you die and you respond you just are on whatever team you were on And then allow the traction members to maybe not explicitly like mine But do something to gather slime so that you know you you could still get slime whenever you respond Uh, we were talking about maybe making like a different like like a different room Like a farm like maybe like maybe we change it so that faction members can mine But juvies can farm and like farming works a little differently, but is overall like a more efficient way of getting slime Yeah, oh, yeah, so it would be like Okay, I like that a lot because it gives it gives like a reason to be a juvie Yeah, I want there to be a reason to be a juvie. What wait, what? I'm saying it has it gives everyone a reason to be on whatever side that they are Yeah, and that's important We're also talking about like if there were items like maybe juvies could be Like maybe juvies would have to like make the items or something like that Maybe something like that I like this I I I feel like I need to like watch the entirety of extra credits and and then come back to this. Yeah, you know, yeah This is this is not like pissy baby. Shit.      Yeah Okay, I know what I have to do here.  It's not narrative. It's like Bennett Foddy talking about like Game design and like, you know, the like the the power of like You know frustration as a motivator and stuff like that I got Hup Hup to go That just makes me feel like that just makes me feel like Dave like like Rose. What are you talking about? We don't we're humans. We don't have character. That's what that feels like to me Yeah, like like the absence of a narrative is like a pretentious design choice in and of itself No, I'm saying that like The fact that he's like talking about like the benefit as frustration as a motivator just makes it I don't know something something about it doesn't feel right to me something about it just feels like I don't like it's self congratulatory Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's exactly it like like Like he's there extolling like he's here talking about why the thing his game is about is like a great thing Yeah, exactly. Yeah Not only that it's that compounded the fact that it is frustration and generally considered a negative thing. So it's like I've subverted like troops and here I have made a flawless game that makes you feel terrible all the time.   I mean, I guess it's my fault.   That's good. That's making me rethink some so I was gonna have Like I was gonna have negative slime like do something, but maybe I shouldn't no no no no It's just be the bigger number. Yeah bigger numbers all they care about. Yeah Yeah, so so like In my ideal world christ, okay, okay like like like like like 40 Like like like 30 percent Of the of the servers would be rowdies and like 30 percent would be killers And then like five percent would be corpse and like the rest be juvies Yeah, like like mostly it should be kill killers and rowdies.    Should there be like a penalty for leaving? I think like you lose some slime or something. Yeah Okay, there are initiation rights, I guess I think the ability to change so I'm not against rowdies and killers I mean, obviously it should be heavily stigmatized And those who do it should be should be considered the lowest of the low and deserving only of death, but that's fine.   They're still on a team when they revive Yeah, so so they don't have to go through the process of like being a Jew So that that is to keep our our our member numbers like as high as they possibly can be But then how does how do jubies come about then? Uh like like like I feel like like once you leave a fraction Uh, then you become a juby and then you can join another one Oh, okay I was thinking that like rowdies and killers should be able to switch between each other But not go back to being a juby going back to being a juby just seems weird to me Yeah Yeah I feel like jubies should like okay like like me and crack we're talking about like, you know Maybe the idea that jubies could like I mean I kind of think that jubies should be like the baseline and they should like spec into things like they like You're a juby until you make up your mind and then you become a killer or a rowdy or you know a cop or like a craftsman or something like that I or a banker I just feel like the extra step Of like dying reviving and then like you have to mine as a juby In order to get into the fraction you were just in I feel like that really bogs down the The like process of getting into a gang fraction and it makes it so that we have less I really care. I I really I really the main thing I care about is just having a lot of people on either side of the gang Yeah Yeah You know, that's what it was all about that that's what it was all about that That's what the entirety of this thing was based upon. Yeah, who had more rowdies and who had who had more killers true and Yeah, and it was you like the rowdy like the rowdies were like The rowdies had way more in the beginning and then it like it kind of leveled off And then the slime mechanics emerged and the and the killers proved themselves as like tactical geniuses And now it's skewed the other way I know now rowdies are like an endangered species. Yeah, I don't like it. You know what I don't think that like Mmm, I mean, do you think there would be a lot of like going? Well, okay, the thing about going back to being a juvie is that like Then you could kind of just like go back to be a juvie like farm as much as you want come back to be a killer It kind of doesn't like picking a side kind of doesn't mean anything I don't know maybe Uh, I think we have to remember at the heart of all this at the heart of all of this The point of this game is that is a popularity contest like like Child proxies are like you're watching this because me and you are too close to like fight each other in real life So it's just a popularity context to get like drones of like Juvenile like like fucked up kids off the streets to troll each other online for us.  There's wisdom in what you say. Yeah, we should we should build it. We should build it with that in mind Okay Yeah, the the the penalty for be for stopping being a juvie is kind of high right now Maybe maybe like being a juvie should make you like wait because right now killing a juvie and killing a faction member cost the same Maybe like being a juvie just makes you way more vulnerable Maybe I also I really enjoy the idea of there of like juvies having like a more efficient version of Of gathering slime, but like killers and and and writers can like still like I want killers from writers be able to mine slime But but you was being able to like farm it and farm when it's just like way better.   Yeah, that's why I want mining To be like egalitarian But if that's gonna happen then then juvies need something else they can do Of course completely.  That was their whole gimmick is that they were farmers Yeah Yeah, and I just have I just settled on mining as like the the way of gaining slime in the beginning But it didn't have to be that way. I could like it was a toss-up I was I could have either done farm or slime or farm or mine and I just like picked mine randomly Okay, yeah farming probably needs to happen I like the casino. I think it should be built upon. Okay. Um, all right. So the reason why I decided that juvies should be it would be able to Gamble and by the way, I'm not committed to that Because I was imagining like a world where like the slime economy is more Uh, realized than it currently is Like I was like juvies should probably be like the main participants in the slime economy So that's why I was like, well, this is a thing where like slime changes hands So juvies should probably be allowed in on the other hand I'm not married to that and if rowdies and killers had their own like If there were other ways of like doing shit with money Well, I don't know. Um by money. I mean slime The yeah, I mean obviously there is no money in this post scarcity world. Yeah um Yeah, the jubies don't really need the casino And like it should kind of be a it would be good if it's kind of a reward for like joining a fashion, you know I feel Like the juvenile existence should be like like like a meat on the off chance that you're playing this Slightly mundane and you know honest life of maybe it doesn't have to be or you know other Other oatmeal type things. Yeah, just like, you know, it's hard work But someone's gotta do it. Someone's gotta tell these Yeah, yeah, that should be yeah, you know, we got families and and farms and you know, they got they got bills to pay Yeah The killers and the rowdies are above all that They're glamorous. They're flashy. They're yeah.    Yeah, like I think if you drop I only want the bitterness. It's coffee. It's great I think if you drop off here it like You'd fall by like all the way back to the beginning or something like that. Okay. Cool. Okay.  I know dude. I think about it all the time Let's see. Can I okay? There's no way that I can grab this from here. Yeah, okay Yeah, I feel like okay We can totally like like we can replace the dojo with just mining for for you know Rowdies and killers the dojo is Yeah, I don't it's it's a porfluous. It's I don't know if I need the dojo in my life I feel like you know, I think would go a long way and I was going to I was going to do this Anyway, I told you this I think that having the chat rooms category be above the gang violence category would actually like make this like It would change the perception people's minds to like, okay We got talk about right fricciscop killers.    Like another video. It's the it's the rowdy fuckers cop killers juvenile detention center Mm-hmm. Oh god. No. No. Okay. I went. Oh Okay. Okay. All right.  He's even scarier now. Have you seen him lately? I can't believe I know I do I I I popped on the sewers.  Oh You don't want to get haunted by the lord of ghosts No, that's the last person you want to be haunted by. I think so man. I think so Oh Do you have any there's actually a A political scuffle going on right now in the sewers. I don't know if you've been paying attention. There's like a There's there's there's divisions. There's there's there's lines in the sand wait divisions in slime city I won't stand for it What's going on tell me about the conflict between the haves and the have nods The the the lord of ghosts his right-hand man his his royal vizier Levy jevy. Yeah, aka the skeleton jafar They're currently vying for power in a civil war type scenario Where the lord of ghosts his absolute monarchy is being questioned by levy jevy and uh They're currently scuffling for power and and to see who can take the the the the title of lord of all ghosts um well I mean You know I gotta give it to the lord of ghosts. I gotta get you know, yeah, it's I I think there's no question.   Well, no, well, yeah Yo, whoa, whoa, whoa, what what were you? I don't know. I don't know what you were talking about The lord of the lord of ghosts was telling me that there's a there might be a skeleton ghost war developing And I thought well everyone in the sewers is a corpse So I don't know where the ghosts are but then I thought that maybe a ghost is just a corpse that's astrally projecting Thoughts.  Yeah, I know Deep deep thoughts.  I love I love the bedsheet ghosts I love the fact that people think that ghosts are real and then they'll videotape dark corners of abandoned buildings And they'll see like a speckle of dust and think that it's it's some human soul from beyond the Excuse me. Excuse me. Um, yeah, well ghosts are I don't know. I don't think I like ghosts. I don't think I'm a fan I I love them.  There's just no way. There's just no way to deny it. I okay. I'm worried about something. I'm worried about what happens if we because like One one way of dealing with with ghost pride is been like some kind of like forced revive mechanic We're like you can you can just revive someone against their will for slime or something And but what happens if someone tries that on the lord of ghosts? like Can you oh, we can't have that we cannot have I don't think we can have that It's scary. It's too the idea is too scary frankly Well, well god.  No, you don't nobody wants that Yeah, that's the that's the worst thing that I could imagine.   Yeah, until we get to that until we get to that. What even is the pcp? Well, we'll we'll we'll get there. We'll get there It's it's it's just the rafters cut clear was like a redhead septile That that's no been been wasting all of its money on booze and you and you know like like buy ring lottery tickets.  Anyway um speaking of the pcp. Yeah, um on I have to really I have to really like like like Make a forced segway here and do the fact that I have to call attention to the fact that it's a force out of way Because if I didn't it would seem absolutely retarded and by me Now acknowledge in fact that I am making the segway longer than needs to be it seems extra retarded on The last ready figures cop killers that we recorded that we were not in person for and that was not part And that was not on teabag Aka, yeah, right figures cop killers seven. I believe Frog fractions two episode one Yeah on the pcp channel We discussed the idea of the pcp Real friend initiative. Yes, and then we followed that up in I don't know one of the f***ing teabag ones We were talking about how it was all a f***ing sham. Yeah now. I feel like this is an important through line to the right figures cop killers saga because Okay, anyway, this this is the most infuriating game I've ever f***ing seen in my entire life It's so off.  We're the uncut s*** And so, you know to un you know to to pull open that curtain and reveal What's like, you know on the inside in the in the business when we're talking baseball I feel like that's an important to the overall, you know, realness of the situation and I I'm gonna come out with a bold statement. And I think you might agree That this ever since rag con rag con three This has been literally the best time for pcb friendship since I've been in the since I've been in the chat Um, yeah, I think I agree But you know, I think I was kind of I think like we were all really feeling kind of in a slump Lately, I think we all kind of felt like distant and shitty and I think I think at least some of us were we're counting on rad con like, you know Bringing us back together and like making us feel more like real friends again I definitely did. Yeah, I do.  Yeah Um, yeah, but it was way fun and it reminded me that we're all human beings How good was it to see digi? It was great. I love digi. I know Uh, I do too.  I forgot that I liked digi. You know, what he hadn't really he hadn't really been that active in the discord And like that was like, you know, that's like our main interaction with each other So if someone's not really typing in the discord, it's like they're gone And and and the only other thing that we could ascertain from digi was the fact that he smoked weed a lot and all of his content was bad now Yeah And and even though all of his content is still bad. I remembered that I like him a lot still. Yeah. Yeah Oh To survive Anyway Anyway The the pcp chat I This is so revolutionary for me Because I I don't feel like I'm not incentivized To like post and chat like I don't feel like it's weird to post in the pcp chat Yeah, like like I I feel like I can just say a message if I want to say a message and like it won't be weird or like or like I'm entering or like I'm going over the top of the trenches and entering no man's land And I'm about to be berated with enemy missile fire from all directions. I I have actually not been that active in the chat, but like I should be So I haven't really I haven't really seen that much of what you're talking about But I have gotten the overall sense that things are like more cool and chill now Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's great like like everyone's talking more everyone's talking like way more. Yeah And uh, it is just an overall sense of like Yeah, we're friends again like like we've done it. We've really done it well It's kind of odd how easy like it's not like we did anything like like real friend initiative Was like a concerted effort to make what has happened happened, but like For red con like we didn't like really do anything.  I I I was upset that we didn't do Among many things we didn't do a pcp decompression chamber like we did a red con too And I was really hoping that we were gonna do one of those Oh my god, because I wasn't even able to I wasn't in the first one and I it was cool Oh Did you see that? I don't know if you saw that but the way those stairs are shaped Like when you try and like when you try and like pull yourself up by the hook of your hammer The stair of bow like pushes back against the hammer and like knocks you off. So it's like not an option That's devilish that's devilishly designed But but but frustration is so motivating. It doesn't make you just want to stop playing the game You get a refund on steam Or does it? Oh man, did you see I tweeted a I tweeted a uh a steam review of this game Like when I first got it like a couple like maybe a month Did you see that I didn't see it was like it was just really funny because it was like clearly like a teen or a kid Trying to be very eloquent In saying that he did not like the game But just sounding ridiculous Yeah, it was just like I I am not giving this a bad review because of I'm not doing it justice.  I'm scrolling through for it right now Look at all those beast capades.  No because I I have been I have Beast capades is on hold. I got to finish vapors three first I forgot about vapors three for like ever And I love beast capades And I want to do it, but I have to finish vapors three. It's like more. It's not more than that It's like, you know, a lot of the way done.  Wait, what? The draw cast has to happen because it's like, you know, yeah that yeah But like, okay, I'm missing footage and I want to like double check with everyone About like if they have the missing footage, but I kind of don't But I kind of don't think anyone has it. I think that probably it's just lost which is sad, but whatever Oh found it by nova post march first you found what I I am not mad. I'm just not playing to proceed on attempting to release dopamine caused by the satisfaction of EG Entertainment because this electronic software product only manages to cause emotional anger within the human brain Due to its unnaturally advanced levels of frustration all design choices This is made by artificial intelligence.  No, dude. No Like get get get real.      This game is art This game means something This game has something to say It means something what we don't know, but I guarantee you that it means something Oh god, I'm watching with bade breath right now.  No, no No That's why this game Is stream stream boys. Yeah, that's a stream stream stream everyone jump in the stream This is why is this the game that we're playing? It was because it was suggested by our beautiful by our beautiful fans Also because I owned it already and because I like it Now the last part is suspect Okay Ever since radcon 3 life For my perspective life has just been way better in all regards. Yeah Like like radcon 3 has just made everything great and perfect and there's been no problems. Basically. Uh, yeah Yeah, I agree radcon was great and things have been good and we're all it does feel like we It was just great to reconnect with everyone And it's just I don't know. Yeah, you get it and I for like a while. I was like, I was just kind of like not I just assumed that was going to look like a little bit after radcon like like a rush of you know Uh, everyone was talking because because you know post gun depression and all that believe it's okay It's pretty like really steady for like the past like weeks. Like like it's really it's really like It's really here to stay.  That's crazy. That's crazy making right now Okay, I'm gonna do it this time I'm gonna do it The chat's super active people like Dude Anyway, this this is awful. No, I'm gonna I when I hit that orange before that was that was further than I've ever been I've never touched the orange before How long is this game? Uh, I don't know I want to say that I'm probably like Like probably like whoa, whoa, whoa.  Can I like oh Can I skip? No, no, I can't of all sad words of tongue or pen the saddest of these I mean, I'll bet that someone who's really good at the game could do it, but I have like no confidence No, okay Uncritically, that's like didn't matter. I mean that you have damn it. I could have swung back to the other side Andre Takovsky. Um, what were you saying?  Yeah, he's like talking like regularly. Uh, has he Well, yeah, he's not the most active member, but like he like Like I see digi not unreasonably often Um, man, you know, I have I have kind of not been that active.  Yeah. Oh, well, that's no good Yeah, I don't like I don't like that at all Yeah, mage uh mage pops in Like all all the people who were like pretty inactive are like all like the same like like like, you know It's no secret to all the fans that the pcp has become the me Nate tom and hippo show basically, uh tom too Yeah, tom's on like every episode you you are too actually. Yeah, uh I've always been on like almost every episode I only mess them like very occasionally Everyone's like on the ever ever ever ones jolly Everyone's on the same playing feel everyone's about like like a man about the same Level of activity some some are a little bit more than others But like everyone is friends with one another Everyone is in the know everyone knows what the fuck's going on there with one other We're all in tune. We're all synced up. We're all gelled up. It's great Oh also like victor is in the pcp chat for like for like For like rad con planning stuff and like no one just bothered to kick him. So like does he talk said anything? No, yeah, I didn't think that Victor's just like there. Yeah, and that's fine. That's cool. Yeah Uh, that's quite great. I felt I felt weird like like victor like okay, like I like victor But like he didn't he didn't at rad con he wasn't there to like be a real person like Like all he did was like be ordered around You know, um, yeah Which is like fine like like I don't know if I should feel but wow, okay That was a great jump like I felt kind of bad because I was like man. We're kind of just like we're kind of just like Just like kind of bossing him around like I know he's being paid but like still But I don't know maybe he just maybe that was like what he wanted Maybe he just kind of wanted to show up and like, you know do his work and get out of there He was sufficiently goofy He was a big goofy He was really he was very shirtless very much at the time and I'm not sure.  That's right The um, okay, you know, I'm of two minds about this part of me like wants to like digitally add in the other people Which I could do But the other part of me thinks that like the moment is pure and like to alter it Or doctor it would be to You know to corrupt it Bismarck. Yeah I feel like it's fine right now Eventually when when that fabled PCP style guide comes out Then we we can do something about it, but for right now There's there's no better. You know, it's a symbol of radcon 3. It's a symbol of the pcp. It's iconic Who who could who could deny its relevance if I had who could deny if I mean if I had a picture Like from behind of you know, say, you know jesse mage and uh Uh I could I could put them in And it would look cool because I would like it with more. You know what the reason why I think about that Is just because I would like it to have more colors Yeah, I agree I I think I'm sure you for the same way because we're both artists, but like To me it's like weirdly imperative that every pcp member has a color I was just thinking about that and what endlessly frustrates me Is that some of us do have like a strong color association and others do not I know tom tom and digi are like malleable and I hate that To me it's always because I When when like like doing like various prototype versions of like pcp design things I want to It always comes out like like if I go with my gut and just do what like I imagine everyone adds There's always way too many greens and blues. There's too many. No, there's too many like purples Yeah, well, there's too many like cool colors. I guess I can run that too. There's too many cool colors Yeah, because oh wait, wait. Yeah, like hippo like Yeah, hippo and divu and they hippo and divu and they are too close to each other exactly Those are the exact thing that I was thinking about. Uh, yeah, there's that also like There's a whole okay like you and All right. Well first of all. Oh, no Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god.   Okay, whatever um You all right.  Anyway, yes So tom so so so tom used to be blue and sometimes he still gets depicted as blue But generally I think he should be red now Which generally leaves me, okay so There's this kind of muddy space Because I generally make do make digi purple But like mage is purple, but mage is kind of like a pinkish purple, but you're pink so I kind of settle on like a spectrum of like you are like bright pale fluorescent pink mage is like mage is kind of like a pinkish a slightly pink violet digi is like an indigo And then yeah, but like it's it's crowded. It's crowded It's super crowded because there's not a whole like like only Like only really tom and jesse are like warm colors with like red and yellow And like the greens kind of get there, but like Not enough like like we're pretty much We're we're really on one side of of like the color wheel. We're really on one side and like it's hard because like I think the way to go Is to make digi a magenta. I think that because like mage is already magenta But she's like I'm saying make her like like a deep purple Okay I would but like she like specifically asked me like to make her like pinker I don't know. She's she's really picky about colors and she told me that like she didn't like the colors of her old O.C. Which were like kind of like a more indigo Um, and and she was like this this is me now and and you know was like, you know use this like pinker version with the horns You know what I think I think the only thing to do is just to pick A set of like nine colors and we just have to be like conservative and strict Like like like like nine base colors. We just have to assign them to people um Hmm Yeah, okay, so let's all right. So let me let me just like eyeball what I think it is Okay I think we should start with like the things that like are obvious. Okay, Nate is obviously a nice vibrant green. Yeah, obviously, you know, Nate I think you could argue like a green green not like a yellow green like like a green you think so I think he's kind of like a lime green Oh, well, yeah, like like that is perfect. Yeah, okay. Okay, so like um So that's Nate Tom is this being recorded by the way, what? Is this being recorded like like can they see the screen? Um You know, let me let me check Oh, although wait, hold on the color correction is making that green black.   I can see you being either Like I think I think what we should do is depending on like the saturation and values of the other ones We decide if you're white or black Okay, so a tom I think is maybe a little more on like the orange end of red Like a blood orange Like that I guess I I think he needs to be easily identifiable as red because because you know the rebel pixel and he's a communist. Yeah Okay, sure and then jesse is just like yellow yellow. Yeah, maybe maybe a little bit lighter than that like There, okay, and you divu is sky blue divu is yeah divu is sky blue divu is like light sky blue Yes, yes Okay there and then you are like Like like maybe a little redder, but like That I don't know the fact that it's on a white background is kind of Mm. Yeah, I don't know. I usually make you like a light pink Yeah, you know I I usually put myself as more of like a harsh Magenta e but like this like for the purposes of this. Yeah, like yeah Yeah I mean this is more. I don't know. I may I generally make you light to like kind of differentiate you from mage Yeah, that's understandable. Okay, so right away. I'm seeing the problem that like tom's What's the word not saturation Value, yeah, tom's value is like way too high I actually I did kind of lightened his red on the group piss just to even it out. Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Yeah I actually actually like I kind of feel like we like it's not that tom's is too high so ours is too low possibly uh Yeah Maybe all right Yeah, I'm I'm I'm just black or I'm black or white depending on whichever one like shows up better Yeah, okay. So what do we got and then we got hippo Who is Yeah, it's it's hard Yeah, something like that, but like he's always going to look Either too much like devoo or too much like nate. Yeah Like what you have there is like the best you can do and like His logo is blue It's you know, this is the color like this this color is kind of just like grandfathered in because it was his Pony's color kind of like tom and like the reason I used to depict him as blue um, but like it's not like this is like Still his iconography like I think it is his favorite color, but other than that it's not like relevant You know I Think we still to look a lot like devoo Okay, try and do a little bit darker of a blue, but like keep Like keep it like still like a light blue, but just of a more Like like like farther on the color wheel like further into the blue Yeah um I don't know if that's really any better Yeah Okay, I'm just gonna leave it as that and come back to it. So mage Is like this Yeah And then generally for digi. I do like This I could go a little blue.  He totally is like a magenta guy now What do you mean due to recent events? Due to the fact that like there was the whole meme like magenta filter over the vlog and like his like icon is totally magenta now in Retaliations that was a huge huge whole big. I made his old icon and his old icon actually was It had like the magenta line work. I'm like the yellow background. Yeah Well, I mean mage's magenta What if I am changed to something else? I don't know what Uh I gotta yeah, maybe I'm like I'm not comfortable doing that I just gotta say I'm very it makes me very happy that I'm the black and white guy Yeah, yeah, I love I love I love that in any array of colors. I am either black or white. That's like So cool, and I'm just so gratified by it It's it's really sorry now mage. Okay. Okay. It's it's all three of the guys at the end the the problem I I well, okay. Tom's value is bugging me, but other than that. It's fine also, let me your Your pink is not doing anything for me. It's like I think it's too flaccid Yeah That's what she said Well, of course I didn't even feel the need to say that because of course you would say that. Yeah I like that more These are like I feel like these are like dull like I'm using like fully saturated Colors, but they feel they feel dull to me here here. I'm I'm gonna do it.  Well, I'll I'll I'll just like open up paint and then I will Tell you what I what I'm thinking about because because I want to like Okay, here's here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna like get like I really feel like the only way to do this is to just be cruel and give people colors that like aren't perfectly them Like like like like we have to like figure out We have to get the rainbow and then assign colors Based first like like who identifies with the colors the strongest and the people who don't identify with like A color that strongly would just have to take the hit I don't know like burguing like some of the problem Like I mean this whole problem is a reason because there are some pretty strong color associations for some of like the like for some for some of the very close together guys like hippo And nate are like pretty strongly in their color aspects but like What do we do about that? Like I don't feel comfortable changing either of them what What if you made I really like nates nates. I feel is this actually looks really good So suddenly I like this a lot more Are you are you seeing this I don't like I'm seeing it. I don't like it digis. I don't like digis. I feel like okay. I don't like digis and I feel like the contrast between Nate hippos and divus is not strong enough, but otherwise I do like it. I could make Hmm Okay, well here. I'm gonna make like I'm gonna make like a secondary like set That like nudges the values a little bit Um, all right. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna make one as well Okay, okay. I'm gonna okay Nate has to be like a vibrant of a vibrant green A vibrant like lime green. He has to look he has to look like how sprite tastes.  This is highly experimental Yeah, we just have to like start out with like what we know people are like we know jesse is yellow We know Nate is lime green. I did that by the way. I made him lime green I know well, that's that you piece you drew his banner. Yeah Yeah, I feel like you should lower some of the values for these to differentiate them more You mean make them make them lighter or darker make no darker. Yeah, but I don't know on which bb is Try with hippos though. It might be a little bit. No, when I when I say when I say lower the value I mean like uh, like like move The like point downward like like like in the box. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I know on hippos It runs the risk of dulling it but all right I I like that for devu. I like okay. Okay that for dude. Voo is nice because it still is like a light blue Yeah, but like it differentiated them from hippo more. Okay, so hippos. I don't think I think that's worse Maybe we should give him like a terezi tea like a lighter terezi teal Uh I don't dislike that I I don't think I like it Uh Oh, I feel like going darker is not Try making a little bit more blue just a smidge Um, but still lighter Uh, that that's fine. Just try that right now That like is pretty terezi. Yeah Um, maybe maybe this could stand to be just a little Actually, this this might this might work Mmm Try making them go lighter. I did because because because both devu and nate are like vibrant Try making nate a little bit more green and more Saturated nate is as saturated as he could possibly be. Oh, he oh, he totally is. He totally is I I made I mean, I made him a little I made nate a little yellower to kind of like make room for hippo Oh, okay. This is good. This is good. I you know, you know making hippo lighter there actually It makes sense and it works and it kind of Be be his hippo is like a quieter boy. So he shouldn't be as vibrant slash loud as you know nate. Maybe Yeah, he's a little It's it's a mellow color I feel like me and mage are like fine Like like like like all these can be Tor at like twerk they can be they can be twerk. Yeah All these like will be like like these will not be like the final, you know Rule from now on but like these are a good starting point. Like like like like like that's that's fine probation. That's fine for me But digi I really don't like digi It's um, no general. I've never I've never been happy with digi's color designation. He doesn't really have a strong one It's magenta, dude But I don't like it No, I'm too purple in that too purple I think you're too light Yeah, too light too There we go. You you like that. I was thinking maybe a little lighter I think mage is too dark That's fine too intense Um like look at the contrast between you and mage of value right there I do okay I know mage wants to be perceived as like Like like, you know a little bit more pastel But like isn't her whole thing that she's like a demon like when dark makes sense. I I don't even know anymore. I don't know what mage's the deal is Um, okay, you know, I actually kind of like I mean, I think she I think that works and I think that's like a pretty decent like distance. I actually like that better I think it works better with the whole Let's give Digi a really Put digi in between me and tom and make him really vibrant Is is what I would in between you and tom Yeah, oh, okay Okay Well, um Oh wait, where did I I guess I'll just stay on the end here Between you and tom Uh, all right. So that would be like that way you can be magenta like That yeah like that although I don't know if that's I feel like that's in the right direction Okay, so like digi is like a bright like chart not chartreuse like yeah, okay, you know, I kind of like a like a bright magenta color like that Yeah, like that. I mean that's pretty close to you though I feel I feel like go back to what he was before Like this Maybe a little bit lighter, but like yeah, something something like that.   I'm gonna make you Well, if you're more like that I'm getting close to mage there Yeah Well, maybe mage can be a little bluer Will she like that? That's like barely even a perceptible difference Whatever you say She sees all yeah, maybe I don't Your pink just seems so dull to me Well, it's because you're basing off the Kirby shirt, which is dull No, no, it's not that it's that I'm like fully saturated pink And yeah, I know I'm making it light, but like Just feels dull It just feels I don't know. I don't know how to make it brighter No No, I feel moving it closer to the white is the problem I think you have to move make it more to the right there A little lighter like that Okay, and then that that's personally where I would identify myself. Okay. Well, that works around there I'm gonna make Tom a little yellower You run the risk of losing that like red Yeah, he's definitely definitively like orange now Yeah His saturation is a problem for me This is like Okay, this is actually not I'm not making it any more yellow. I'm just lightening it a little bit I'll actually make it a little more red But a little lighter too. Yeah, I would make him red Like like that is like solidly red just lighten slightly and then Okay between you And him. Okay, there is some wiggle room there I feel like what we had before for digi was like peak Digi like like that was good I like that but now he feels too close to Tom I can make him a little pinker I mean, that's like Magenta, I mean, would you describe that as a magenta?   Well, unless you count me well Well, I don't think they should all be as bright as they could be any case I don't know Well, you know that is distinct, but it's a little weird Okay, it depends on what on how we want to calculate the style guide Do we want this to be like Every person has like a clear base color and then from that base color color them Like as you see fit like like around the general idea of each color You know what I'm saying like like like do we do we just want to have them be as bright as they can be? So it's just easily identifiable like okay. It is this color so you can make it a little bit darker for shading I mean that that makes sense to me Yeah But the problem with that is that like if you don't want to just have your like shading Just be the color but black which is terrible and bad and you shouldn't do that Then a lot of these will like kind of blend into one. Oh, yeah. Yeah, of course like this is this is like a baseline Yeah I Okay, like what I mean is digi. I mean digi is now like kind of a maroon um I think that like design wise These are just He's really close to tom god I'm gonna make him a little purpler I feel like we're hot. I feel like I feel like this is When you tinker with it, right? I feel like this like this is around around the color that digi should be Yeah Yeah, I I don't I I feel like tom is too orange Well, I made tom a little orange or Because if he if tom is like red red Then there's just Then that's crowding in on the digi space. All right here. Um I'll make him. All right.   Okay Hold on. You know, maybe I'll feel better about this if I just like that I feel better about this already Yeah, you know Yeah, I do like this Let me see Now for me, you know what you are the one that stands out as like the most weird Try using my color from the top one First I'm going to try making you a little bit Like pink purpler That's that's better Okay, that's more distinctive though is more munchy. Hmm Maybe not I I don't disagree that we have to work what we're given though And and and we do have to we do kind of have to smudge a lot of this to fit in line with one This one from the top is a little too red for me Yeah This but this one is a little too purple. Uh god. No Could you try Lowering and the value of and like darkening tom dark darkening tom. Okay Just so that he's a little different from digi That that could be worse though Hmm, I'm not crazy about me either Also, he he would be yeah Something would that would it would bother me about that is that he would be the only one who's not fully saturated Like like the idea that like one of them is dulled when the others aren't like bugs me Yeah You know what You and tom are both known For black and white comics What if like you are black and he's white or something? That's not bad. The only thing is though that like red Like red is like a color that is like calling out to be filled And like I don't I don't think digi should be red But someone has to when I think tom is a solid choice for it I do I agree. I mean, he's the rebel pixel. Yeah Although I mean well I don't think one can be white and one can be black because like one Doesn't necessarily always work when the other would Well, okay, they about like this We have jesse's yellow Which is like a nice proper yellow.   Yeah, that's what that's what I'm thinking about right now Interesting. I like where your head's at Uh, tell you what I'm gonna I'm gonna save this I'm gonna get I want to get back to Bennett Foddy for a little bit. What do you think? I think it's pretty good. Uh, I think we can we can sleep on this viewers viewers weigh in What do you think? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is a viewer show. Yeah All right. Well, that was that was interesting. See, I think a lot. I think a lot about color identities of us I I I do too then I have to be right back.  All right.  I also want a pee break if that Okay, okay. Okay entertain the mom gone.  I fucked with my I fucked with my um obs settings To get rid of the green screen effect which come to think of it is totally pointless and unnecessary And I don't even know why the green screen effect was on and now I really hope that it hasn't been like green screening out the leaves or something No, of course not I also hope that the in-game sound effects have not been drowning out our voices Which is highly possible because I have the in-game sounds playing on a different device But I cannot hear at the moment Because uh well for reasons actually setting up the audio and video for this stream took like an hour and a half For some reason for no benefit. Here we go devil's chimney Yes Oh my god, that was it. I'm impressed with myself I am impressed with myself.  Good Um You gotta we got to start pissing slime We got to get in the spirit of things and start pissing slime Can you imagine Your bodily waste being currency because that's what I'm imagining dude That just gave me an idea What if one of the rooms in the discords was like The bathroom and you could just go in there and piss and it would like do something To your slime or something. I don't know To your slime Yeah, like you would get slime from it or you would lose slime or like some something You know like if just like peeing was like an important strategic decision Yeah, yeah Workshop that workshop that it could be like You know replace the dojo with the bathroom so instead of sparring to get slime you piss on people and it makes them think And there's no Yeah, nobody nobody gains nobody wins Ah shit, right. Hey, I have to go pee.  It's astounding to me Because I I I was just doing a funny joke.  I was turning at the screen so I could make sure that my audio my my my audio was fine And look back down and what do I see?  I'm like like like I I just I just like I just got like a small like washcloth.       I've been sticking on a real long time to pee And as I'm sure you all know I cannot carry a show I can't I can't even I can't even co-host a show I'm I'm dead weight here. I don't know if he's got killers and you all know it and you're just waiting to betray me You're just all waiting to betray me. I'm waiting to betray you.  Thank god you're back. I'm back one second There we go Actually, thank you Let's see here. What were we talking about talking about colors.   Oh the draw boys. Yeah Um, I haven't been working on comics lately So I haven't had anything to post there, but I really love that it is There and around and just for and just for draw boys I really like just for draw boys. We are like We need we need to like better communicate with one other because we are clearly the best artists Like like just in all categories. We are clearly the best people in the pc. You and me like there's no doubt about it Well, no, I all the all the draw boys. Uh, yeah I mean like as a class the draw cast is like the best pcp con. Well, I don't know. It's it's good It's good and I like it a lot The the best regular pcp con. Yeah, the best like on a schedule also like the least popular Is it at least I I thought people like well people do like it, but it doesn't get the views that like It gets less views than the regular podcast for some baffling reason Well, yeah, probably a problem marketing.   I was really excited about it the game And I wanted to be a part of it somehow I I totally want like turn art apologies into like actually I haven't listened to it yet I started it up and I didn't get very far through it and then I paused it And then like the the tab got closed and I forgot so I haven't actually heard all of it Oh It's good dude. It's good. How far did you get not very far? What were we talking about? Um, okay, probably just interaction. Yeah I I want to like turn it into late into like, I don't know. I don't know A bi-weekly or whatever.  I've been rewatching old pcp and horse cast episodes And one major thing of modern pcp And I think and I one of my notes is to get it get into the weeds of modern pcp since that's been on my mind lately Uh, but what what are one of the trappings? Is that we don't like talk about our work ever and like that was like a major Thing early on yeah, was that we were talking? We were all like grungy internet content creators and and and we all like bitched about work and you know, etc Etc. Well, and and you know gone to the weeds of what that was important I got annoyed with it because it was a lot of youtube talk that I was not interested in But it's all art. Yeah. Yeah, so like if we did that, but it was just the drawboys I would be way into it Yeah, hold on. I'm gonna take off my shirt real quick. Good Okay, come on I feel like it's been it's been a while since I did this so I'm like I have no confidence Oh, oh you're back here. Oh god. We're playing a game. Oh gross. Yeah, I know sad Pitiful Yeah, so like imagine imagine like a show where it's like, you know It comes out whenever and it's like an hour to two hours of like the art boys like So bin like like like what are you going to apologize for like like what like what have you done wrong in your art?  It's it's that's what this whole thing was about. It's what ah It's what separates us from the animals. I summon up remembrance of things past I saw the lack of many The fact that we need divisions not for any practical purpose, but you feel powerful I would be down to have our apologies be like real. I I want that Be be regular Yeah And like a real thing. Yeah What wouldn't mean you got together and like like I had the idea for like the pcp draw cast iron chef Show yeah, but like wouldn't mean you got together and like really trains is the foundation of eternal Well Make anger you're in anyway Harm comes to those who know and brought ten patients and draw to life. It was magical. It was really magical It was And like we were we we were doing it fast and it was easy and it was breezy and it was beautiful I was covered girl.  Yeah to try and like Inspire myself on like how I want Ah And like how I want ten paces and draw to look and the there's just not enough b-roll.  Okay I feel there's an important distinction here between jokes and memes and people will confuse them and it makes me extremely upset when they do He's in mind.  Yeah Yeah, okay. I feel it, but I don't know how to make it silly with what we've got Like the yeah, we like like like in the footage. We kind of take it too seriously, which was kind of a point It what it was kind of the point I feel like okay I feel like I'm glad that it is the way that it is because it's the pilot and it's like the proof of concept and like Here's what it looks like guys. Yeah, check it out I feel like next rad con when we make like episode like one or two or whatever Then like and like we know what we're doing We know the structure. We know it's having a turnout and we can turn on that that like classic pcp improv You know fluidity and and dynamicism that we're known for I feel like that will be where the show really comes to life Into its own because we don't really need like like we don't need or want or should be a super like serious game show it should be Like in my mind the ideal for ten paces and draw Should we like explain what that is because because I feel like we keep mentioning it by name But I don't know if anyone knows what it is Uh Yeah, you can explain I I gotta go uh do something real quick. I'll be back in like two minutes.  It was great.   It was really nice. It was really queen It was really uh great and fantastic The uh, I mean should I explain what iron shaft iron shaft is like I guess I'll explain what 10 pace and draw is like You get we got all the draw boys. They're all lined up the the judges explain what the show is Which is what I'm doing right now.   Yeah And I just I think having like more fully realized pieces in the end Just makes that I mean that's that that's what it should be Also, uh This is of no fault of Nate and digi though. We need our we need judges who are like our artists. Yeah Yeah, we do I mean they did fine But yeah, they did they did fine. Yeah, we at least one judge needs to be like, you know an artist I think ideally we would have like three judges two of which are artists and one of which is like a lay person like Nate or digi The problem is just that we aren't Like we're kind of you know, we we have to work within the confines of the pcp. Yeah I mean at this point in time at least Although I thought that yeah, if if the show continued like at say Uh pcp hq if that ever materializes I thought we could have like guest artists on as like Competitors, you know That that's that's totally like imagine if the pcp were the judges and like we had like guest artists as contestants That that would be dope. Okay.  That is a beautiful beautiful dream Yeah And I want I know dude, okay Timbases and draw is one of those rare projects that like I'm just so Fucking into I'm just so into it and like I'm so upset That like we really don't have the necessary tools to make it as great as it should. Yeah. No, we don't But it could be great It could it could be fantastic. I'm so into the idea And I'm and I'm dedicated next ride called we will do another 10 pieces and draw and it'll probably be better because we'll have finalized Like have oh, oh god. Okay. Okay guys when it comes out, please critique it Please god. Yeah, and tell us how to make it better and what it needs or like what it like Suggest things that like it could take inspiration from or like be more like, you know I I think to keep in mind like like what what I want the show to be is I want it to be artists Try and they're all making good art and then like like and like, you know Like like have it be like a silly fun show But the end of the day you come there because you like the artists and you want to see them do art stuff Yes, so so like so like Like like like art first comedy second but comedy like close behind like like I don't want this to be like a Like like I feel like it took itself too seriously. Yeah first time. No, no, um, but but it should be about the art It should be fun. It should be fun. Yeah, it shouldn't be silly.  Yes Historically, so I feel like I feel like I want to workshop the idea because that means I do like our apologies And I want there to be I just really want there to be A like a like podcast or show for the art voice to discuss their work. Okay Like we have the draw cast But like it's not really suited for like in-depth conversation about the art because like we're trying to draw You know What if we like Yes Okay, I don't oh fuck. Yeah. Okay. I don't know about this But like what if this would take way more work, but like what if we like did the drawings and then like did commentary over them? Because there's always you are you talking about for the draw cast Yeah, oh like like like the way we do the races Yeah, the because the problem with the draw cast is always that there there are periods of silence because we're always like trying to work hard And and like and like like it's hard to multitax being funny and entertaining And also drop home.  Yeah, like that's just who we are. So like No even I don't know if you feel the same way, but like I I feel like even in serious situations, it's hard to be 100 percent serious Just that's just that's just the kind of guy that I am. I like to make jokes. Yeah, like no matter what Even if it's not the goal, I think that it will be funny. Yeah We yeah, like we can't not be funny at least a little bit It kind of sounds egotistical Well, what I what I mean is we uh, we we we can't not make jokes whether or not they land Yeah, exactly. Um, yeah, like that's just gonna come out organically You know our our resplendent personalities will always shine through to the delight of all Um, by the way Oh god, okay. Well, okay. I was gonna say a spoiler I was gonna say a spoiler, but I'll just phrase it like this. I'm really it's it's it's complete like dramatic Hilarious irony the way that like the first two rounds ended after all that was yes, and I'm glad I'm glad that it went Fucking funny.    I saw that I saw that Okay, you know what I think I can recover. Yes.  Oh god, that was choice. Oh Oh Yeah, yeah Stream games This is the greatest game ever ever since radcon I've been bursting with creative like flow like more so I I told I told this I like I think this is a common knowledge where I where I I felt like I've been in a real like creative and like Energy slump for like the past couple months But like I really feel like super reinvigorated and with like a whole new passion for Being alive and being an artist on the internet and doing things and it feels really in one sense I feel that way but like it hasn't it hasn't It hasn't turned into comics which makes me sad every day Well, it hasn't turned in for comics for me yet either, but it's turned into like like oh, okay I I'm going to suck my own dick super hard real quick for a little bit because I Have released two like like a couple videos that like I'm actually proud of and like I've never like really been proud of like videos I've done But like the the two vlogs Are like super okay, okay The the last one the one I want to focus on feeling closer to death. Have you seen the video feeling closer to death? No It is It was originally just a straight up vlog that mean did you record it where we talk About the tune critic y2k Skype call specifically where he's called out for beat a pedophile in a skype call I want to talk about how I like skype call conversations. I have not heard that call by the way Oh, it's legendary. It's absolutely legendary. I didn't know there was the skype call also.  You're fucked. There's no other way Uh, and eventually we start talking about how I like morbid content. That's like scary and stuff.  Yeah, that is morbid. That is some morbid shit Yeah, and okay, and so I take that And here's what I do I get someone at 3 a.m to call me on skype and and and like and like The start of the video is like me browsing pimple popping On youtube. Yeah, and then I get a skype call And then I answer the skype call And then the person the fan his name is like center point. He's he's in he's in the oh, yeah center point. Yeah, juvenile. Yeah. Yeah Uh shout out He he he opened he starts screen sharing and then I edit out his screen And I put in the vlog and the vlog is like edited like fully So it's it takes place like the vlog takes place With Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Not the worst thing ever.   Yeah, and it was nice and thank you radcon 3 Thank you radcon 3. Thank you radcon 3. Thank you radcon 3 So the best video you've ever done probably um, why didn't I do more just like it? It didn't even take that long But it was sick. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go I bet it made so much money. Oh god. Yeah, right. Just hand over fists Yeah, double it's weight in gold that video probably made like 20 bucks tops Yeah No god Oh, you're so fun. I know One of the main things that has helped me achieve Godlike creative status It's like once I got home from radcon like like I obviously I just naturally made like a like a to-do list Like, you know, there's the stuff that I have.     This is the worst part in the whole game This is my this is my this is my sophie's choice Uh, um Uh creativity um To do I've got God, I just You know, okay. So the thing about like the rad con videos I feel like the creative energy there was already spent and the idea of just like editing them and like getting them ready for release And then releasing them just makes me tired because like I already did it, you know It feels like release releasing them just kind of feels like a formality at least in like an emotional sort of way I understand what you mean, but I don't feel the same way Because most of my I don't know because because when when like I did our apologies I didn't like feel like I had done it. I only felt like I had done it when it was released And like in order for it to get released I had Very slightly but Uh I just feel like Like like I think I think it helps that most of my most of my stuff that I got down at like at Radcon was like components of things that like I need to work on still like I'm working I I I haven't like stopped working on that thing with hippo. Oh, that's oh my god that thing with hippo I had forgotten about that. I know Oh, oh, oh, I have not that's been on my to-do list and uh, I actually have Oh, I don't know how to describe this in terms Uh Part of it is done.    I miss beast capades so much But I got to finish vapors three year old never forgive myself I've been saying that for years, but it's still true and it always has been Let me ask you this I don't know what you think Uh, this is this is an investigator question, which may be like extremely influential to it's Happen, okay, I As you know, I I'm quite a fan of the homestuck game and so all of like like like like I And because I I I grew up with it My brain literally thinks In terms of like homestuck yes, and I know for a fact That like investigator would be done Maybe not like particularly quicker, but it would be done way easier And I would like it way way way more if it were in homestuck panels I don't mean like, you know, are you seeing this like are you seeing where I am right now? Yeah, I'm seeing where you are right now Oh, oh, oh, I got it. I got it. I got a good foothold. I have You worried that was really dangerous. It looked like you just left off and you were ready I I thought I could push myself off and grab this one, but it didn't really go the way I planned, but that's fine Uh, okay. That's okay. So are you are you considering doing it? Beescapade style? Well, not beescapade. I don't want to do like reader input. Oh my god Oh my god Christina Rossetti anyway I don't want to do no, no, no, I mean visually like in homestuck panel style Yeah, yeah, um I'm considering I I feel like you would behoove me To make my first comic a traditional talent. I Yeah, well, you know on the one hand, I feel like it's worth going outside your comfort zone On the other hand, I feel like Whatever it takes to get it done I I don't think it will be a major impact on it. Someone told me not to cry I I I just had a conversation. I think my heart's cold. I can see that. It might make me not chat Steve Uh, it's something somewhere in in the chat that we're both in uh about Doing it homestuck style. We're like, I just like not considered doing it that way because I wanted it to be hard on myself, I guess Um, you didn't I mean, I don't think I mean, I don't really think it makes that much of a difference Like ultimately what which which way it ends up being Unless you want it to be one way or the other Like I think in terms of the end product It's a it's a lot and then it's like it's like it's like kind of Almost semantical in a way. I would describe it like it doesn't It doesn't really matter. Yeah It's just like the language of it. Yeah Hold on. I I had thought that you would have like and like page is drawn already Would you like redo them? Yeah, I okay, I I do I do have like pages done in the traditional comic style though They aren't that many I mean, I guess you could always just like It wouldn't be crazy for me to restart like they would I guess you could always I mean they're digital, right? So I guess you could always just like that's one which is free, huh? Besides one which is okay. Well, I guess you could always just like convert them into like homestuck panels. Why not?   Yeah Uh It probably shouldn't spend too much time doing this because in the end it's just going to be like you could have gone there Yeah, if you're just done in one way.  I love that For a while there I used to hang out with my friend john and I would um I would be drawing on the computer and he would be he would be coding on his computer but I just wanted to like do that for a long time, but he would Like stop and like talk to me And like tell me about what he was doing And in one sense I understand why But that kind of wasn't what I was there to do, you know I have always been fascinated By this one panel of a home stuck of an influential Homestuck fan comic Entitled panty rain But what I cared about was the depiction of the characters in said comic and they were just they were just like like it was all like the boys Basically in a room and they were all like like like some of them were like playing on the tv Like like a video game or something and then I think like john was like on the computer and like day was just like watching like the fucking game and like I always thought like one day I'll achieve this level of brodom or like I don't have to like talk to my friends because god forbid that Yeah, but like but I could just like work on things and like they're around and I can look at them and appreciate them as the trophies Yeah, yeah, I feel it. I stand amid the roar. It's great when you don't have to talk And I hold within my hand How few Through my fingers to the deep like like while I weep while I guess I grew up Is a sheltered boy. Can I not grasp? I had always been Hardcore on the like you know one from the online friends the same as offline friends I still do understand and emphasize that attitude Like I come obviously with maturity to understand their vast differences And one of them is that when you're in it like like like being in a call is way way way Fucking different than talking to someone online and like I know that's like a basic thing But like, you know most of my conversations with my friends were like over schedule So like only only like really, you know in the past like three years or so have I really appreciated the difference? Because like because like that moment with tom was great But like we can't like I can't like call him and then we are now silent just working together Like sometimes me and mage call each other and just like watch anime and mostly in silence Well, yeah, that's not that's like a collaborative. Yeah, that's like that's Like like like it would just be me and tom like just like Doing Can I see another anyway, sorry No, it's fine. William just like not saying anything to one another. It's just not conducive Ah Most of the time in my life. I like don't want to be talking, you know Do you feel that way? Sometimes not most of the time most of the time I want to feel that way like a lot Yeah Is this a new development or have you always felt this way? No, it's it's I think I've always I've always been this way I mean, maybe not always but definitely I remember feeling this way even in like High school or maybe maybe college was when it started. I don't know I don't know if it ever started, but I know like I remember like thinking about it consciously and like college It's like I don't want to talk. I wish I could stop. I wish I could just uh Wish I could just have like silence for a long long time Uh There's definitely a great It's always the best feeling when you reach that tear or friendship Where silence is no longer awkward no matter in the end. Yes. We only regret the chances.  There's no awkward like I should be saying something.  I'm just like praying Like this is this is the best I can consistently do getting to this point like my hammer is on the thing But I'm not like making progress per se It's always so weird because whenever you do and that do it. It just is like a super quick fluid and easy Ah Yeah, yeah, you're right. Whenever I do it It's like Because I I keep wanting to like stop and slowly approach it and like carefully make progress, but that never works Um, it's only when I like go for it But I like I don't know how I make it work when I do go for it Blindly do it until it works And then still don't understand.  Yeah Well, naturally It's um, yeah, it's like you were yeah We used to talk about our work a lot and now we don't but like that's what we think about all the time So like what are we talking about?  I'm really afraid that my power might cut. I'm suddenly paranoid. I'm gonna stop recording then start again I don't know if I was imagining it, but I thought I saw the lights flicker for a second and because like Yeah, because I guess the viewers wouldn't know like before we started recording my power went out for like 10 minutes this morning Uh, and I'm afraid it might happen again And I would lose but I think okay Ah, it depends on file format like depending on what file format this is being saved in Sometimes a power outage will cause it to lose everything and other times it won't like it's being saved Continuously and I don't know which one is true right now. So I'm scared Terrifying. Yeah. Um, at the very least you can hear my audio So that will be luxurious. What what do you mean? Oh, like if if this all gets lost Well, but then they won't be able to hear my audio because I'm recording my audio in obs I know. Yeah, so it'll just be munchy talking to them. Yeah. Yeah, exactly It'll just be me talking to all the people who are now currently listening to only munchy and wondering why I'm Wondering what this conversation is even about Okay, okay, here we go.   And so Uh, I think I've described this before I have I have a I guess I have to fucking go to the history since It's highly contextual but back in the old days of the pcp fan chat when that was a big huge thing I was there because I was a pcp fan lel uh and uh I I gathered all the people who I thought were cool and put them into a super unbelievably clicky Uh, like secret club chat room called the golden child foundry And uh, like like all the people who there were cool were cool into name names. There was steve There there was dame. There was steel viper.   Uh, I mean, okay, okay, okay I The main reason I wanted being sub is because the right for scott killers is the best thing to ever happen to like society Uh-huh, and I wanted to compare it. It's now achieved that status Yeah, yeah And I wanted to compare and contrast it to the pcp in terms of like effort and stuff Yeah But but but to do that, I think I think I had to lay down some groundwork to the people who like like are I have not been like like like rattled with this line of thinking constantly If the past like months like I have and I think you understand like a firm grass food as well, too So I I mean, I guess I'll just jump right into it. Uh, I think the pcp has become super stagnant and super, uh, Like like samey and super boilerplate and super uninteresting and flaccid and and boring And yeah Do you do you agree? well I see what you mean, but I don't know if it's that the pcp has changed as much as that It's just been going for long enough that like okay the same things have started to feel that way I don't know. Okay. Okay. There are many things that I think have changed like have changed for the worse But I do Basically agree with you that it is an issue of time and that we've just been going for so long I I think that that's like the core like hidden issue Yeah That like behind all the things that I would like to institute and change That's like the main thing that I think is an undeniable like like like I don't like I mean like how can I fix that we've been going for a long time? There's not there's not much I can do so I would prefer to focus on like the practical, you know Uh tangible details Uh I mean here. Let me just get up a Magna Carta right now. In fact, let me do that right now. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god You're you are literally always in the pictorious situation.  I just I just keep screaming. It's like radcons. Yeah, it's like radcon all over again All right, all right Okay, so reasons why the pcp is boring and stagnant Uh Article number one of the Magna Carta everything is boring and no one cares Uh, this is uh This this just goes in detail about how the topics uh Like like like I think this is Erewitz who said it eloquently Or sorry I guess I have to remain these people don't want their names be uh associated with this Um, but I'm not gonna edit it So sorry, um But but but yeah, uh, uh, that's what you get.   It's like well, we have a pre-ordained list of topics here Let's just randomly pick one based on what we are in the in the in the appetite for yeah um It's it's true. It's true. It has now become a fact of life that a pcp is happening And we just have to accommodate that however we can Ah Yeah, yeah You I mean maybe Maybe we should try to like, you know use the Use the use the fact that like we're talking in chat more as like a Foundation for picking topics better like what are we talking about? We should podcast about that We actually have been and so this is all like This is all kind of old hat. Well not old hat.  Ah Okay, excuse me. Excuse my french Are still here, but I feel like we are uh, we're doing good. So so in ways that we're combating Uh, everything is born and no one cares Is that we are not we have now like implemented like like more people are doing Like like hosting the episode based on like their their passion level and you know people like like it's really been drilled into people Like you know try and pick topics that you're passionate about, you know We've had stuff like sex and you know like that I feel strong about obviously We we we had you know We we we've had recent topics where we care a lot about more about it I don't think it's it's it's reached the same like you know, we were talking about this in chat And so we we brought up, uh, but we have the potential to change that now. So I think we're on the up and up on that Yeah, uh, yeah But keep in mind viewers the reason I'm saying all of this is even though I think we're on the right track I still think that there are problems we can fix and also Uh, this is rare for your subscribers to get the real shit.  Yeah Uh A nightmare dystopia where nothing is ever when nothing ever changes A nightmare you can't wake up from but yes.  Like what do you mean by monsters? What is happening right now? Let's just look at funny images and uh, it was awful. Yeah. Yeah, um It was truly a wake-up call Yeah, monsters was totally a wake-up call in all ways. We were like guys this Something's gone wrong here Want to read most of this basically Uh, I mean all all the news we said was I felt it was stagnant for a while And uh, we're taking steps to do that, but here's the point.     It's that's that's not a good Set up for success Like that's not what it should be about I feel like we've reached A point where like the podcast itself is solidified and like pretty like like, you know Standard and like you can pretty much guarantee like what's gonna be on each episode Like you know because start open the urban dictionary We're we're gonna we're gonna you know try and find our footing for a while and it's gonna bring up Uh, we're just hill and tyrannyism for no reason and it won't be great and we'll argue about that for like 30 minutes Yeah, and and yeah, everyone goes home happy. Yeah. Yeah um But even though the podcast has has reached that sort of standard, you know appeal Uh, like everything outside of that is like new And like pretty refreshing like like like like didgy even though i'm not totally pleased with what is happening with him He is undeniably doing new crazy stuff.  Yeah Uh, not to hype it up too much.  What's like the word? No Oh my god, it cannot recollect when it began the same thing has happened when it was not like Five times in a row where you just like like you've got up there you flounder Well that time I actually got up on the rocks above Emily, so like I was I did better that time You're right, but I still fucked it up Inexplicably, I mean, you know the first time I went up there. I took it slow and I it was pretty successful So I think I should do that again Oh, okay.   It's familiar.   Sure. I feel like the pcp At one point had like a diehard Fan base like like like of like actual like fans of the podcast And while the podcast was of course sold on our personalities and friendship basically entirely It was like there's no doubt like that the podcast itself had like an extremely influential role in getting those people invested in us and our relations with one another Yeah, but I feel like the actual like fan base of the pcp has diminished while like the procrastinators fan base Well, maybe not has like drastically like skyrocket or anything. I feel like there's more There's more Hippocrite fans now And there's more like bin saint fans and there are a pcp fans now. At least that's how I feel I agree. I don't think yeah, I feel like Yeah, you're saying that like enthusiasm for the podcast in and of itself has waned but like Well, you know if that's true, then I think that's a worthwhile trade-off Like I think I think that our stuff that we do our art is The is more important than the podcast in and of itself. I mean, I like the pcp You know, I've worked really hard on the pcp on on like, you know doing stuff and making stuff for it and like You know, I want it to be a success and I want it to be, you know Good and enjoyable and something that people like and are excited to hear But I mean if the pcp had to die Or not die, but like, you know, if I guess what I'm saying is I would like I would I would I would accept a loss to the pcp for like a gain to like us as individuals, you know, because it's about us We are I I completely agree Viewers, I know this was kind of scatterbrained to follow, but just just know that like for like the past couple months Here's been been been privy to my concerns and like talks about this I've been deeply concerned about the daily miracles of your life.  I and I've been really trying to you know, push myself to like, you know Find ways and like and like develop methods to like fix it and you know make make, uh, you know Make it great things right make it great again. Yeah, but Maybe that's not really what I should be doing and I think that our focus focusing I think that our focus should not be on the pcp itself It's like not that we shouldn't focus on it or think about it or try to make it good But it's not the most important thing Yeah, I I that that's how I feel now too.   That was great You know, there were a few ones that were nice But overall it was kind of a slump in quality fucking. Okay. Okay.  I I guess I'm fine with you The um, I mean if we're Being chums and if we like like each other and are talking to each other and having a good time with that I think what will naturally occur as a result is that our conversations on the pcp will become more lively and more enjoyable You know what I mean? I know you mean I think like like it really was it really like like I I I feel like I was being too harsh on the pcp and and more so than I was being harsh.  Yeah, and I'm really happy about it And that's well, I'm mad because I didn't get to do the topic that I wanted to do but whatever We'll do it later. I was I was encouraging that one if uh, I think that was a great one I mean, we could still do it.  Look at that human in the pot.  He's like unity male model number one or something He too is a unity asset. I I can't that's for the name of my autobiography He I kind of want to play a sexy hiking the game that this is like based on Mm-hmm. It's like really like crappy like pixel looking Yes You know, I think wretzu pray wretzu prayed someone who was let's playing sexy hiking Uh, yeah, it's um, I've never heard of it before I feel like it's probably gotten a little more noticed now that this game is out Although I'm sure people did know about it.   I went out for maryp day and I got myself an amfrose And I say okay, maryp day was like the best day of my life. Yeah, I missed bulb. I missed out on bulbasaur day, but ah But I got the you know, I like amfrose better than venus or anyway I dude.     That's so awesome. That's so awesome.  I just went to like I just went like around to like some stores um And I went to but I did like end up at a park And uh the park did have like, uh There were I did see groups of people walking around playing pokemon go.  Yeah, it's really nice and I really like it whenever that I don't know if you'll feel the same way but I think the pokemon go is like Like will be Like the best thing to like ever happened to me network slash socially Because when I was in boston And and boston has like a really like acted like like, uh discord server pokemon go, especially for like instincts Hashtag instinct best invest team by the way, uh It's mystic mystic all the way Number one now and forever Please refer to the Misty hour lid Remembered if out wait really refer to what The pokemon go minuscule review by by legendary Author and esteemed new york time bestseller hypocrite. He did a pokemon go video Yeah, pokemon go minuscule review. It's what it's it's one of my favorites.  I missed it.  Uh-huh. Maybe even only like 30 like 42 or something.   It's terrible genius genius.  I was recall Did did the req ways I love the cock. Was he right? Obviously. Yeah If it had bad iv is obviously well, then he should say it he should say it loud and proud. Fuck.     Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  Am I right? We're all just we all just love cheating What are we gonna do all the map scanners are down, uh brain same thing we do every night, uh pinky Try and take over lehoya with our with our mystic gyms Quality quality meme right there my friends.  Yeah, I don't know why can't I do it? Why you'll never succeed? I don't you'll no one believes in you You can't do it I'll I'll rise above hate. I'll resist hate. No, you won't you'll be just like me one day I've already got all my cronies flooding that My your cronies. Yeah, my cronies I'm I'm glad that you have cronies Yeah, it's a good. It's a good feeling Um, all my all my goons are just mobbing it are flooding this pokemon go local server I've I've got a crowd gathering All right, I I can't wait until I like I do like a like I want to like do like a weekly pokemon go walk and it'll be great for exercise It'll be great for social well-being and it will make my life 10 times better And you know one day people will be like, so what do you do?  Yeah Uh, I feel it.  It's perfect. Boston was great for pokemon go.  No, dude. They're really fun.    I would be so much more incentivized to play it Um, I'm actually planning.  Like it's it's seriously consumed all of my life Do you know what I wish more than anything?   I don't hate what it is I think it would have been better if they hadn't tried so hard to make it its own thing I I like particularly care about the social it the social aspect of pokemon go and how it facilitates me talking to new people But I do like like okay, okay bin. Here's the world It's not the perfect world But I think it's the world that is the perfect like feasible world that could like realistically like probably maybe happen.  Why would they not do it?  Yeah They are just completely determined like before the battle even starts like there is no strategy to be held. Yeah And it's gay Yeah, it's it's it's pretty good the combat is absolutely horrendous and like Again, I'm fine with it because it just facilitates social interaction.  I can do a stash effect. There's still our stash conditions in pokemon go By the way, there are still not stash conditions a staple of the pokemon series still not there Yeah, they just like took all this great stuff out to make room for a new system that sucks Oh boy. Yeah, it's really frustrating And I mean, I don't I don't know why the insistence on like cooldowns and like screen tapping Like I guess if you have to have that then yeah, your your system works Like I said, like I said, it's not the perfect system But I feel like I feel like cooldowns are like a like a like a vast step in the right direction and also like not unfeasible Yeah, well wait, isn't like like I mean they kind of already have cooldowns. It's just that they have like only two moves and whatever well They're not really cool. Oh, I thought I had that followed by a charge meter. Yeah, like in the fighting game. Yeah Well, which is absolutely retarded Like why two moves Yeah, why? I just just why hey, um my ampharos has dragon pulse. Is that good? That's the like community day event only move like so series community day the pokemon you evolve during that We'll have a special move. So ampharos has dragon pulse Here's another reason why the pokemon go battle system is bad There's literally no reason to not have stab moves and coverage literally does not matter well I mean you um You might you know, I used to watch uh, I used to watch uh trainer tips Oh, oh, I love trainer tips and that guy had like oh my god that guy had like, uh I mean it's been a while but back in the day he would like he would get pokemon that had like Like he would have like a strong grass type But then give it like strong water type moves because he would anticipate that like a fire type was oh wait Wait, but then it's like isn't in pokemon go like stab and type advantage are like the same Yeah gross gross Wait like like like something to that effect.   It's just tab a lot It's like the only strategy is in which pokemon you're choosing Yeah, exactly.    I need to yeah, I need to get my jinx really strong.  Like what is why are they not out yet?  Yeah, that was that was like a long time ago Yeah, um I mean pvp pvp I could see being challenging like I still think it should be doable But pvp I could see being challenging but trading like What Like how like that just seems like the easiest thing, you know like like like I like like What could it like like what are the challenges just like like is it just coding it like like how? Normal pokemon has trading normal pokemon has trading. Why don't you have trading? It's not like you can't program this because there are video games that have it programmed Uh, I mean sure you have to like do it In a way that's consistent with the way the rest of go is coded, but like I don't know ultimately it just comes down to like A transfer of like a packet of data that represents said pokemon from one phone to another Right, I mean I think so I mean Well, I mean only I mean I guess you could like you could potential Maybe they don't want to do it because like a high powered player could like transfer to a low powered player and it would like Break the progression or something Like could it be a balance issue?  There's already a fix for that That's already been accounted for in the normal games. You're exactly right So it can't it can't be balanced. It can't be a balance issue The only thing that I've seen suggested and this was like by fans So I've I've not even seen niantic comment on this Niantic doesn't comment on things or at least they didn't use to maybe they're better about it now But especially in the early days of go they were like what I understand if they're very slightly better Okay, well, all right um, but like the only thing I like like it It's there have been rumors that like spoofers will have an advantage because they'll be able to like, you know Zip around the map and like trade things Like like, you know at their leisure.  Like there's no like sure They will have better pokemon But like they already do spoofers are not like like a huge like unbelievably rapid pokemon like a problem They already have better Pokemon so like just whatever And like why deny this staple of the pokemon series for just on the count like like you are literally Negotiating and letting terrorists win. You are literally letting terrorists win That can't be it that can't be the reason Again literally why is not it literally maybe maybe they think that it would like Maybe they think that if you could trade for pokemon then like it would like just make the game too easy in some way Like maybe they think that would disincentivize like Buying shit or something. I don't know. Maybe they maybe Maybe they think that like that would be giving players what they want too much to the extent that it would like hurt the game's financial performance or something Because I'm sure if they wanted us to have trading we would Make a Make a trade pass where you have to buy a pass to trade a pokemon done. Huh? Pretty good pretty good Look at this i love pokemon go Huh? I love pokemon go. I miss playing it. It was way fun playing it again. It was great and I love it Yeah, and it's the best game ever made. Yeah Like it true. I just I Apparently trading is like coming up and like and like they're working on it, but like it's it It it's it's reached investigator status in my mind It's it's reached. It's it's reached. Oh delays at this point. Niantic.   I could use stuff from like an ice biome Oh my god, okay. Well, I mean adding trading does kind of render region exclusives like almost pointless Um, you have to meet someone from the country and they have to willingly give you one.   Mime to another american guy, but like Like like will make them pointless It will that will still be like a pokemon that had to have originated in europe. Yeah Like it still like would have had to have spawned naturally Yeah, like like you will have to like it will be a saw a saw after pokemon So it will still be like wow this guy has like a mr. Mime cool. I want that I will give you a strong pokemon for that because I cannot get that normally Yeah Well, I mean, I yeah, they'll still be cool.  I don't think it would be like it just wouldn't be fun No Because there wouldn't be any skill required. It would just be it If they had just made it like real pokemon then it would be fun for her there to be pvp, but they didn't yeah So it's not it's not gonna be cool. So who even cares? This is what I mean. This is what this is what makes me mad about it It's that by making this this by making this unnecessary change they just like They just ruined so many other things. They're like, I don't even want them anymore ah Right now pokemon go is just a game about like having pokemon in your phone Yeah, it totally is which is you know Not like I don't want that not like I don't want to have cool pokemon in my phone.   Yeah, so I guess that's fine but I don't know. I I just feel like there's no wandered potential certain answers to pokemon go. Hey, um, oh Well, let me just get about this. What like why are there small pokemon and big pokemon? Yeah, apparently it makes no difference to the stats. Yeah.  Oh god. I'm so drunk I'm so drunk.  Come on.  I'm gonna watch a video. I'm gonna pull up youtube and see how he did it We're not getting underhanded tech. It's like that the pcp Say what? We're not getting this underhanded tech. It's like that the pcp. No, we're all for that Okay, okay. He he okay. He goes slowly up just the way I did All right. He slowly goes up the next rock Okay, and then to get to where I am I'm assuming he's gonna Just yep, he's kind of hook himself and just slowly.  Oh my god Here here goes Here goes Oh, no, I'm scared Here's What he's what he here's what I gotta do Well Oh, oh, I almost saved it Okay, so what he did Was he kind of like grabbed onto the rock pulled himself up And then like without coming to rest Just kind of low lowered himself down on the rock and then pogoed himself off it to grab the next ledge up Because there was no place to like sit on that on that's that rock that I was going for My hammer just slipped his hammer didn't slip. Why did my hammer slip?  Okay. All right.   Oh, all right. You know what? Yeah You want to call it quits munchie? Yeah, let's call it. Okay. Let's call it. It's been great. We've had a good Let me just I'll just beat this bathtub in frustration. Oh, whoa. What? What is this like the secret?  Oh, it says wrong way. Okay. Yeah, there's like there's nothing over here Whoever requested this game.   I I like it.  Yeah, and be be our pawns. Please be our child Proxy, yeah, please please fight one another in a proxy war that me and munchie are too cowardly to fight ourselves for slime superiority And that's it.  Uh, it seems everyone likes youtube more, but uh, I like twitch. I like twitch Well, uh, we're just gonna keep going until you like it basically. Yeah.  I'm gonna try this one more time since I'm here Okay, one more The world's rushing on your shoulders I did it. Okay. I did it. You're doing it.  Give me a million slime. No matter what give me that coveted mega slime I want it and I deserve it. Oh, no Okay Look, I need I need it. Okay. I need I have a gambling addiction now I gotta bet it all on slime craps I I won my first gamble. It made me so happy I have still I have never won a game.  I'm so strong Oh, come on. Come on This game is unruly Easy does it now How far into the game would you say that you are? I think I'm more than halfway through here. Like I think there's maybe only like two more significant challenges before the end, but I'm not really sure Because like I've never made it I mean, I've I've seen someone play it through but only like once There's like there's not this is I think okay.  Well, I knew that I wasn't gonna fall because my hammer was gonna catch the table But it was kind of an accident This is all it. This is what the episode's righted on. Okay This is what the game of reference collector's brand depends on Easy now Okay, killer killer pride killer pride is on the line If if if you win Then then then killers get a free day of of slurpees at 7-11 and they get they get they get they get slurpees for free For an entire day. Oh my god, and if you lose then raddies get slurpees Free slurpees for an entire day. I don't want I don't want to play around and be refreshed Exactly.    Why didn't his hammer slip? Shout out start drama with us All right, that's it. That's the game. Yeah, we all get slurpees.  Oh, I think they know what to do. That's to be dead Commit commit.  I do not want the stay deads enjoying them We're at each other's throats, but but but even we even even we can come to the sensible conclusion That corpses should stay corpses even stay corpses.    All right.  All right. Bye. Bye later