At this time, we will call our public forum on the town budget to order. Welcome to those of you that are here in the audience and to those of you at home. I'm Lynn Griezmer and it is my distinct pleasure to have been chosen by my constituents in district two to represent them on the council and by my colleagues on the council as president of the first Amherst town council. I am joined this evening by members of the town council, including manager Joe Hannity who is vice president and Andy Steinberg who is chair of the finance committee. On my left, your right is town manager Paul Bockeman, town clerk Margaret Nardowitz and interim finance director Sonja Ulrich. There are several other town people in and around helping us tonight. Thank you for being here. We are all here to listen to the public's thoughts about the FY20 budget. Prefacing that, there will be a presentation about the town's present priorities, revenue and expenditures, history and forecasts, potential capital projects and the budget process and timeline. This will be followed by an equal amount of time for public comment. There are handouts for this evening's presentation available out in the hallway and I just want to draw attention to the fact that we are meeting the requirements of the charter by having this forum tonight and one of the most important pieces of the charter is the definition of what it means to have a public forum. And the phrase public forum shall mean a meeting during which more than one half of the meeting time on the agenda is devoted to public comment. With that, I'll turn it over to Paul Bockeman. Hello? Okay. Thank you, Lynn. So this is new to us. We've never done one of these before and as Lynn said, this is a requirement of the charter. So welcome to breaking new ground. And like all things with the charter, it's the first time we're doing it and we're going to learn from this and see how we can do it better next year. One of the key characteristics as Lynn said of the public forum is the definition which shall mean that one half of the time is devoted to listening to you, the public. To my mind, the requirement to have this forum is to ensure that decision makers, the town manager, the town council are available to listen to the concerns and opinions of the public. Their concerns. It's really an opportunity for us to hear directly from you before budget decisions are made. It's not the only way, but it's one of the ways. In prior years, the fiscal budget process would begin with staff preparing a financial indicators presentation, which is typically given in the fall. This report provides a financial report on the town's finances, trends over the past 10 years, how the town stacks up against other communities, things like that. This will still happen, then the select board and the finance committee would take this information, meet and discuss and ultimately approve budget guidelines. While the select board and finance committee did this last year, this will be done by the town council from now on. This will be an important way for the council to establish the priorities it wants to see in the budget. The charter now requires a new step, this step. This year and into the future after the financial indicators report and budget guidance from the town council, but before budget decisions are made, there will be an opportunity for the public to express its opinion on budget priorities. Again, before decisions are made and before the budget is presented. It is important to note that this is not a budget presentation. It's not a budget presentation precisely because the decisions are not to be made until we hear from you. There will be a budget presentation in May. That's when details about the budget will be presented, but that will come later. That's the process. Now let's talk about the FY20 budget priorities. These are the broad categories that we will be focused on during the budget development. So every counselor, pretty much every single one, has talked to me about the condition of our roads and how we need to invest to maintain our roads in acceptable condition. This goes for sidewalks too. We also have needs for new roads to be paved and new sidewalks to be built. Last year, the town devoted nearly $1 million to road work. Previous years, the town had contributed about $300,000. This goes along with about $850,000 that we get from the state and under a program called Chapter 90. How did we increase this amount by so much? We prioritized it and didn't do many of the things our departments wanted and needed. That doesn't mean these things that the departments asked for aren't still needed. They are. But they have just been moved back on the capital plan. And we're doing the same thing in as much the same way this year. We're saying no to many requests from departments because we want to make another large investment in roads. The second point is that has been evident in sustainability.  With the formation of this committee, the council stated clearly and unequivocally that taking action to mitigate and prepare for climate change was to be at the forefront of our operations as a town. We have pivoted as a community to embracing sustainable architecture, operations, and working to inculcate a sustainable mindset into everything we do. It doesn't happen overnight, but it's where we need to be going. The next set of priorities includes reasonable, sustainable development. The council has talked about the importance of the master plan. It's important because development addresses the need for additional housing in the town, and along with why is economic development contributes to our tax base. But where development happens and what it looks like are large questions that need to be addressed. And I use age-friendly, which shows up on the screen to not be a euphemism for old people, not that I have anything against old people because I'm one of them, but to talk about the need for good sidewalks that can be used by everyone, runners, walkers, strollers like, for developing parks and playgrounds and providing activities for youth and maintaining and expanding services and opportunities for seniors and the youth. Those are our big areas of focus. Then of course, we have our urgent need to address the needs of our buildings. Over the years, the town has generally built about one building every decade or so, often to replace an outdated facility. However, the last time the town really built a new building was in 1990, nearly 30 years ago when the police station was built. We have been remiss. We have not been responsible to our future generations, and we need to get started on this work. I think there's no argument that there is a crying need for a new fire station, new public works building, and of course, a new school. And I believe in this community, a renovated library is in keeping with the values our community holds. The question is, how can we afford it all? We will be developing numerous scenarios over the next several months. This will be a highly engaging process with the public. We will soon have an interactive tool available online, a sophisticated spreadsheet that anyone can use to prioritize the four major projects, move them around on a timeline, increase or decrease the spending, and adjust any assumptions. Not everyone is going to get everything they want. There are going to have to be changes, adjusting expectations, figuring out what's affordable compared to our needs. This is one of the highest priorities of the town council, and the council will be working on this over the next months. While we have not set a schedule, I anticipate that there will be a full blown community engagement process coming up. Are we going to be able to afford these projects? While we have a big need, we have a key advantages as we grapple with the funding. First, we have been working for years to build up our reserves. You can see our reserves have increased to about $12 million. This year would have been higher, except that we took $2 million. We basically borrowed $2 million from FreeCash to offset the funds that we use for the health insurance trust. That money has since been paid back. We, the employees, and the employers have since paid that. And so next year, FreeCash will be higher. Second, we've been elbowing out room in our budget to devote more funds to capital. From this bar chart, you can see two things happening. You can see the contribution to our capital projects, which is the gray line going up. And you can see the debt service, which is the amount that we pay back for the money that we borrowed going down over time. So this goes out to 2024. So that's a good trend for us. And third, at the same time, you can see that our, oh. And fourth, we have a strong bond rating, which will keep borrowing costs low. The bond rating is like your FICO score. The better your bond rating, the lower interest you have to pay on your loans. We work hard to have an excellent bond rating, and we do. So let's go to the budget where we look to be going in the near future. First, I want to note that municipal finances during stable times are pretty static. Our three main sources of revenue, property taxes, state aid, and local receipts tend to move and sync with the economy. If people are buying more and newer cars, then there's more excise tax coming into the town. If people are building additions to their homes and there's new development, there are more tax revenues through property tax coming into the town. And on the expenditure side of the budget, a large percentage of our budget doesn't change from year to year. We continue to carry out the duties that are required in running a town. Continue to offer many of the same programs and services, unless there's a proposal to add or subtract something. But overall, we provide police protection, fire protection, snow removal, public works, all the basics of municipal government. So this is one of our working spreadsheets. You should, there was one out there in the front of the building when you walked in. I know the type is teeny tiny, but it's available online. And this is, we're using this just for illustration purposes only. This document is presented to the town at the financial indicators presentation in October. We are continuing to use the October spreadsheet for now because that is the one people are familiar with. We will be updating this particular spreadsheet and we'll present it to the finance community in the next couple of weeks. Another important note is that this is the general fund only. It does not include enterprise funds. It is also important to note that this is a working projection and it changes constantly as we get more information. So with any budget, there are two sections, revenues and expenditures. So we always start with our revenues. Revenues and expenditures. So we start with the revenues. So revenues have four major categories. We have property tax, which is the biggest followed by local receipts and state aid. And then another category. Sometimes a pie chart helps because you can visualize the various revenue categories and that breaks them down into the four different categories and you see that property tax is the largest slice of that pie. The next slide is for our general fund revenue from each of the major categories. The thing to notice on this slide is that the only real increase from year to year is from property taxes. That includes the increase in property taxes allowed under proposition two and a half plus new growth, which I'll touch on next. New growth includes any increase in values, like I said earlier, like a new porch or dormer plus all new buildings. We typically project this to bring in about $600,000 per year. That spike in FFY-17 was due to a revaluing of property that is owned by Eversource and provided the town with a larger increase that year. Back to our projection seat. We now focus on the expenditure side of the budget. We've looked at the revenue and now we're gonna look at the expenditures. And this also has four categories. It has operating budgets, it has capital budgets, it has fixed and miscellaneous costs like retirement and other post-employment benefits, and it has unappropriated uses, like state assessments, overlay, other assessments. And here's our pie chart that shows the relative budget categories of the town, elementary schools, regional school district plus the other categories. So next I wanna give you a snapshot on where we are in FFY-19 and what we're looking at in FFY-20. For FFY-19, that's this fiscal year, which ends June 30th. We're in good shape. This is the year where we transitioned from a self-insured health plan to a fully insured health plan. There's, for next year, there are certain things that we already know. We know our retirement assessment from the Hampshire County Retirement System and we know that debt service we'll have to pay for loans we borrowed in the past. These are obligations we are required to devote funds to. But back to health insurance for a second, because this was the biggest financial challenge we faced last year. Our health insurance has stabilized due to the work we did last fiscal year. Stability came at a price, however. The good thing is we moved all of our employees from a self-insured plan with all the volatility that that included to a fully funded plan, fully insured. This move gave us stability from last year to this year and with a terrific 0.6%, that's 0.6, less than 1% increase for FY20. This is good for the employees and for the employers, which include the town of Amherst, including the elementary schools and library, the regional school district, and the town of Pelham. This is very good news for next fiscal year. But it came at a cost. The employees, and I commend the leadership of our bargaining units and retirees for being intimately involved with this decision, gave up some choices, choice of plans, took on additional plan costs, and for the first time we introduced deductibles. I thank them for taking that leader important step. Without making this move, the conversation tonight would be entirely different. The issue of health insurance isn't fixed. It never is until there's a national plan to address health insurance costs. We are stabilized. We are all together in one group with two options in that group. And we have been aggressive about instituting wellness programs for our employees. Health employees are good for themselves and their families and good for both of our budgets. So we talked about what we know, what we don't know, and we talked about some of the assumptions that we were working on as we build our budget. We aren't expecting much from state aid. We would like the state to give more local aid to towns like Amherst and funds for road work. And at the same time, we would like to see fewer mandates. We also don't know the impact of payments from recreational and medical marijuana. We have one medical marijuana facility open on Meadow Street and two recreational or adult use marijuana facilities working their way through the permitting process. One will be co-located on Meadow Street and the other will be on University Drive. We also don't know the impact of the recently enacted tax on short-term rentals, things like Airbnb. We will not project any income from these until we get some experience under our belts. That's basically our always our practice but it's also the advice of the Department of Revenue. So we know what we know, we know what we don't know and here are the working assumptions that we have included in our projection. The property tax only will increase at 2.5% is permitted by Prop 2.5. And we are still projecting new growth on the spreadsheet at $600,000, the spreadsheet you have in your hands. Although that might change with updated information from the principal assessor. We are projecting hoping for a 2.5% increase in state aid and we're not projecting a significant increase in local receipts, fees, fines, et cetera. We are projecting a decrease in ambulance revenues which is significant because our ambulance revenues are going to decrease because last year the town of Hadley went out to bid for their services and contract with a private delivery service or private service for their needs. Hadley made up about 20% of the calls to our fire department for EMT emergency medical services. And so that the revenue from the contract we had with Hadley plus all the fees that we earned from the ambulance rise was taken out of our budget as well. This is good news in terms of our staff because they were experiencing stress because of the number of calls. But we did not decrease the staffing of the fire department but there's less revenue coming in. And lastly, we will not be using any reserves for requesting operating budget overrides. So here we are in our budget timeline. The budget, as I mentioned earlier, is not set. That will happen over the next six weeks. As I work with our staff to finalize the budget, I am required to submit to the town council by May 1st. We are all eager to hear your comments, priorities, and any other thoughts you may have. Thank you for your attention and the opportunity to serve this town. I'll turn it back to Lynn. Okay, the town council has been running fast and hard since being sworn in on December 2nd. Just a little over three months ago. There are two timelines that we are now going to show to you that we must meet to complete these budgets over the next four months. The first is the regional school district budget timeline. This is a budget that based on the charter, we quote, feel it is prudent to consider and act on because it relates to the other three towns who are partners with us in the regional school district and they hold their town meetings at the end of April and May. So our calendar there starts on May 12th when the school committee votes and gives us the budget. I mean March 12th, excuse me. And then the finance committee holds its first public hearing on that on April 4th and we vote on it and take it onto the council and the council will vote on it sometime either the 22nd or the 29th of April. That's just the regional school budget. The second one, however, is the whole town budget. So our timeline there is, first of all, as the town manager mentioned, he will present a budget to us on by May 1st. The town finance committee will review the budget during the months of May and the finance committee will hold a public hearing on the budget and in this case, it will be the FY20 budget on May 21st and the finance committee will take a vote and then by June 30th, the town council has to vote on the budget going forward. So there's three dates here. I'd like you to make sure you note and join us. One is our public hearing for the regional school budgets that's April 4th. A second is a public hearing on the town budget that includes the elementary schools and the library and that's May 21st and then on June 3rd, a public forum on capital improvements. We're now ready for public comment. You may wish to comment on any item in the budget, anything from general government to capital and you may also wish to comment on the regional schools and the elementary schools but I just want to point out that their boards are in charge of their budgets and hold public forums as well just as the library trustees are in charge of the library budget. And finally, a very, very interesting moment is that the town council cannot actually increase budgets the way we used to be able to do when we were in town meeting. So it's a little bit of a difference and it makes it even all that more important that we hear from you during this meeting and going into the future. So we hope that when you give us comments you will tell us a little bit about how these information affects your neighborhood and also your own experience in town. There are some ground rules for public comment. First of all, we ask that you only speak when recognized and when speaking that you first provide your name, address and the district you live in. While you may want to continue to talk on a similar topic we hope you will also focus on new items and we will start out with a limit of three minutes and I think that probably will be more than adequate for most people. If you have a written statement please provide it to our town clerk and she will make sure that the council sees it at some time in the future. So I'm going to moderate this part of this so we'll have a show of hands for those people who would like to speak. I'll call on you and we'd like you to come forward to the mic unless there's a reason you are unable to and then we will make sure we bring a mic to you. May I see who would like to speak? Yes, sir. I'm Jeff Lee, 815 Southeast Street, District Five. I just came to voice my support for recognizing the importance of public transportation in the budget, particularly the bus system, PVTA. I think it's extremely important to the town and the residents on many levels. Economic development brings people into town. Environmental sustainability and global warming mitigation gets cars off of the road and economic justice. It helps poor people get to work who may not be able to own automobiles. Also town-gown relationships. It helps both students and non-students alike. So I would just urge you to include support for public transportation in the budget. I do understand that town meeting appropriated $53,000 last session out of the Transportation Enterprise Fund. I do know there are complications around how that can be implemented, but I would urge you to do what you can to support public transportation. For me, the most important thing is advocacy and I think including money in the budget helps to advocate, shows the state that we're really serious about supporting PVTA. So I appeal to you to help us do that. Thank you. Additional comments. Come forward please. Claire Bertrand, 610 Bay Road. Is that the info you wanted? So I'll start with the comment that I hope I may have missed it, that there will be the chance for online commenting. There's not much of a crowd here, but I'm sure with Amherst Media getting it out there that maybe others will see it and want to be able to comment. And I hope that's the case for those who couldn't be here tonight. Certainly. So one of the things that I hope you remember to include money for is to implement ranked choice voting. And there's also significant short term capital expenses that the schools are facing. And maybe that's the school budget, but I'm not sure how that fits with the town planning, but I'm sure they're married. So like that to be considered. And there was a really good slide that you had for the long-term capital or I'm sorry, the money we owe and how it's going down. And I think that slide is super important. I would need to look at it longer. And I think it tells a story that is part of our planning for investment. So that to me would be a really helpful piece of information to get out and maybe enhance. Because we do have a lot of possible upcoming capital expenses and how they fit in to a balanced budget is super important. That's all, thank you. Thank you. Additional comments, please come forward. Amy Gates, 54 Spaulding Street. I didn't have a planned speech, but I was just curious about whether I might just propose an idea for additional revenue. And that is with all the off-campus housing that's sort of taking over the town and something you have to work on. If you might do something like you could have every landlord charged even if it was just $10 a bedroom or $20 per room and that would be a fund that would go directly to the town and you could call it like a bedroom tax or something. And I thought with all the amount of students off-campus and I know they're already paying a lot but just maybe $10 each room could go towards the town budget might be a way to bring up some more money because as a homeowner my fear is with these huge projects coming if we start overriding proposition two and a half our real estate taxes become sort of untenable. I mean, sometimes as a, for me as a homeowner I start to feel like as a resident that we're considered sort of the credit card for the town and you need to sort of please remember and take into consideration that there are lots of us out there that are just squeaking by with the real estate taxes and we love the town and want to stay here. And I guess I had a question, I don't know if you can answer that and you said that you couldn't increase budgets but can you vote to decrease budgets as a question? You can. Yes, we can. Thank you. Are there additional questions? I will say that we are going to remain in session to meet the requirement that we be here for as long as we spoke, if we'll all stop speaking and we will be welcome if people want to join us that are watching at home. Okay, we'll be reading in session till 723. Yes, Bob, please come up. Robert Pam, 229 Amity Street. These are comparatively small items but it seemed to me that it might be worthwhile to talk about them. My understanding is that a small the departments and each of the other entities, the schools and the libraries are often very tight in terms of how much money they have. The town has made a decision last year, as I understand it, that smaller capital budget items are no longer funded as capital budget items but have to come out of the operating budgets of those agencies that creates some difficulties for those agencies and it might be worth considering whether that is an appropriate thing to do. Second, there has been, as you know, a large discussion about buildings that are being constructed particularly in downtown. One of the ways in which it is discussed is about setbacks but setbacks in planning terms usually means do upper stories get laid further back from the footprint of the building. That's really not what most people are concerned about. What they're talking about is the size of the sidewalks. If you were to look at our downtown, generally they are 15, 20 feet wide and people can get around quite easily. The new buildings have not been set back from the street at that level and that has been a concern for many people in my neighborhood and I believe in other neighborhoods as well. So those are two of the questions that I would ask at this point. Thank you. Please come forward. Barbara Pearson, 11 Page Street, District 3. You may have talked about this because I came from another meeting and I missed it but I think there's a lot of confusion in the town as to how much revenue the new buildings actually bring to the town. And so we have people disagreeing kind of vehemently but without the actual figures. So I once asked our town manager and he very carefully said, well, it's online but I have to confess, I can't figure it out. So if it's online, if we could take it off, I mean if we could leave it online but also put it in a more easier to digest form and see what the actual impact both positive and negative, I mean we have to figure out what the negatives of them are too but if they are in fact cash cows for us then that changes some of the discussion. If they're not as lucrative as some people have said they are then that also changes it. Thank you. Additional questions? Comments? It's the advantage of being here. Barbara Pearson, 11 Page Street. So I noticed there's a thing here about health insurance and so forth. And I, there too I've asked a little bit about this but I haven't done it formally but this has been one of the, okay. So I think we've just changed. I know that we now have this new bill on the federal level that wants to abolish insurance companies or take insurance companies out of the healthcare equation and I think that what's happened in the town is that we've just gone to using insurance companies to administer our health programs and so forth and I'm just wondering if there's possible to have some kind of a special courtesy. Something that talks about what the expense to the town has been, what it's been historically, what its projection is, whether in fact it is, I mean my understanding is that this is one of the things that is sinking the state. I think it's also a burden on the town but I don't get the impression, I mean I don't see where it is and so once again I guess I want the Cliff Notes version if possible, okay, thank you. Thank you, additional comments? I guess I have a question about the school budget.  Cause I mean I'm just sort of looking at the pie chart and it's kind of shocking what is the expenditure for the public schools versus everything else so I just didn't know if you had any say or if they're their own. We can lower it but we can't do anything else. So does that mean then, so I can understand if you lower it then they will have to then say okay we have less money so that means we're gonna have to make the cuts with this particular then they reallocate, okay, all right. Correct. Where do sidewalks come from? I mean who pays for them? Which part of the budget are they? It's in the capital. Just plain old capital? Yes. Is it a separate line item? Yes. Is it increasing? We're trying. I happen to be on foot. It's hard. Are there additional questions? Robert Pam to 29 Amity Street. In any budget there is always a competition between the capital side and the operating side. It is very good that the town has made strong efforts to raise the amount available for capital budgets and has reserved an increasing portion of the tax revenues to cover that. It has however also meant that there has been a very limited amount of money for the operating side. That has had implications over a number of years. One has been in the days of town meeting. We've all remember those days. There has always been a strong impulse to not fund social services of any kind. Social services in this state are largely a state function and a private function and are done at a very limited level by towns. That has had implications frequently for the ability of the town to support local initiatives of one kind or another. And it's something that we should be considering whether or not that is appropriate in terms of social services. There are ways in which as I understand it, the town is now working very hard to make sure that capital expenditures will not have a disproportionate effect on low income people in our town. And I think that's good, but that's not necessarily the only way to think about it. And so I would argue that there is a need to at least think about whether any social services need to be funded. In general, we have done that through CPA funds. Capital funds are being used to the extent that we can to not punish people for being poor. But on the operating side, there's really not very much that is done on that. I would say that we have done something wonderful in terms of bringing health services to our town and I'm very glad about that. But I would suggest that we think about each of the agency activities. And I think about the schools and I think about the libraries, their ability to provide some of these social services and to provide access for poor people to the kinds of things that I remember from my youth. There was a time when if you wanted educational services, you could go to a night school in my school. Those kinds of things don't really exist anymore. There is, from my youth, kids would go to the library if they wanted to get off the streets and to do something useful with their time. And you need to have locations and people who are available to help in those kinds of ways. So I just would like you to remain focused on those kinds of questions. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Please come forward. I'm gonna take the gentleman with the red jacket on. Since we're here, the gentleman with the red jacket, Bill Cazan, district one, I just wanted to remind the council section 10.11 of the charter creation of a participatory budgeting commission. Since we're here to talk about budgets, that has to happen within six months of the assumption of office by the council. And I look forward to the creation of that commission. I think it has a lot of potential. Thank you. Thank you. Jeff Lee, 815 Southeast Street, district five. I appreciate the previous comment. I wasn't aware that there was such a commission and it kind of impacts the comment I was gonna make. Seems like this is almost premature to offer public comment on a budget that we really have no idea what it looks like. And so maybe that committee would be a chance for the public to weigh in, but I'm wondering if there might be another forum once the preliminary budget is prepared so that we can comment on that. There is in fact that. We're coming up on our time, two more minutes. Any more comments? Any final comments? So I'm going to declare this meeting adjourned, but I would like to share with you one very nice piece of news we've received. And that is the first congregational church of Amherst was successful in their appeal and will remain a temporary shelter and not have to do the $75,000 of renovation. Thank you for joining us this evening.


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No, no they made alliance first and then they made horde I have all people should know the answer to this because howdy I talked to the devs about this But I'm like my brain is all over the place I think they made the alliance first and then they did the horde quests So like everything they kind of learned and got ideas from the alliance quests They like they they did all that and they're like, oh, we could do this better on this side Okay, so here's where we are at with the burning crusade beta We made it to 68 so we can finally respect Rhett and we can do some Rhett Paladin things But I don't have to worry about it too much anymore because My goal was to hit 68 and kind of just hang out until they decide to increase the cap To 70 I wanted to hang out and have them increase the cap to 70 And when they do so, uh, that's whenever we're gonna hit it like we mean it But what this means now that I'm 68 is I can just chill. I can I'm gonna keep testing some stuff I'll play a little bit on beta and I'll do some other things I said I'm gonna do more exclusive content on my youtube channel I think I'm gonna take the time to make some guides for burning crusade with the beta Oh, no Uh, okay, hold on Just prepare your just pucker up guys. This is gonna be a tough one Uh, this is bad So, yeah, I want to do a guide and I'm gonna do a guide as I was saying Uh on how to not run shadow labs and it's gonna start with not running it at uh level 57 and pulling all the mobs in the uh in the auditorium at once So Dude my mana is just full because I'm getting blasted with heals so hard Then I'm just straight full mana the whole time because both of these guys are both the shaman and the holy paladin are just Yeah, dantonio is like dying. Do you need mana pots dantonio? This talent or this this uh Ability that we get in burning crusade spiritual attunement. It's so big Where is it? Is it a holy or I think it's a protection 10 of the healing goes to mana. So if I get a healed for if I get a 3k heal, I get three 300 mana No idea how We just survived Yeah, that in the tier three I was literally full mana that whole pull.  Both so here in classic burning crusade palins get changed a lot To make them a lot tanky. I mean they already were like they're not as dude 90 of the time This is wow and wow players are talking about right and gamers have changed over the years So if something isn't the best of the best people act like it's the war like if it's not overpowered They act like it sucks right but They do make them a lot stronger and specifically give them talents that like six percent damage reduction Uh six percent more stamina ten percent more stamina So I end up having a lot more health now than I had back in the day like a lot more So that helps for me to get a lot more tanky As well as like um as well as some of the other talents, right? Like I have like read out gives me a chance to have higher block chance and all that stuff So all that stuff is great now my gear is also very like I have very very good gear I don't have every piece of gear to have like the best possible gear I can have going into burning crusade the free patch But it's it's very very good like overall. I'm missing like 10 items This isn't everything but I have this like uh overlay that I put up on my raids on Tuesday nights I started doing this so that people know kind of what I'm looking for.  You got yourself a pretty nasty tanky set I even use like spell power weapon too with thunder fury like I have my rune sort of the red one item that I probably want to get I want to get I love this song Okay, I want to get end of dreams in max, but uh, I do raid Tuesday nights and I have a whole Whole big list of items that I'm looking for getting how much HP do you have right now like 11 k But that's with an imp and then uh commanding shout and also a flask 500 health flask Wraith blade is better than end of dreams. But again, like I manage a gale that I don't do lu council stuff like day to day or like raid to raid anymore because it's just while I'm streaming and stuff It's just too much to handle right, but I can give input on like I think like, you know, this is this this is this And item like wraith blade. It's it's a that is like the premium one-handed caster weapon And it's not something that Like realistically, I can't really get that right. I can if everybody else has it and that's fine But like I'm not going to get it anytime soon. There's other items I've gotten very lucky that there's been a lot of drops of that I have not gotten yet For example, like kids of the spider because the spider is an item that we've gotten five of so far So I'm probably going to be able to get one pretty soon. That's kind of like the next version of Dft I would say like I would kind of compare the two as far as like where they kind of sit as far as like a Loop priority type of situation So an item like end of dreams, which is not quite as good as wraith blade But still pretty good and it's a mace so a lot of casters don't need it It's like a shadow priest item or like a feral druid item or boomkin item even the mace from bwl You know what's funny? So the healing mace from nax gives you as much spell power as the mace from bwl does It's tier 3 better than 2.5 or tanking tpc I think so because here's the thing you take it and you Tier 2.5 is that's a ret set and it's not bad to like get five pieces for spell power Then mix another stuff, but I think if you take five pieces tier 3 gives you more options


Thank you very much for that introduction. It's a great pleasure to be here, and I particularly want to thank Julia for the opportunity to come and talk to you about the work that we're doing, which really dovetails beautifully with the notion of translational psychiatry. And what I'm going to try and do in the course of this lecture is cover three areas. The first is some of the background evidence for the fact that there is a progressive process of neuroprogression in bipolar disorder, and for that matter, many other disorders. Secondly, touching on what we think are some of the key biomarkers underpinning these changes. And thirdly, for us most excitingly, what new therapies might these point to? So for a long time, we've struggled with this black box of pathophysiology, not really fully grasping what lies inside the black box. We know of a whole lot of risk factors that go into the development of psychopathology, and out-pop a variety of syndromes, but we really are struggling with understanding what lives inside this box. In terms of bipolar disorder, and in terms of the progressive process that exists within bipolar disorder, a critical message is to understand that people with bipolar disorder really do start off their course of their disorders firing better than their peers. There are a number of studies that show this, and this is one that was published in the British Journal last year. And what you can see is that kids who develop bipolar disorder and have a standardized grade average, in this case looking at more than at the top end of academic performance, they have an odds ratio of 3.3 for being in the brightest group. Quite unlike the scenario with schizophrenia, these guys start off firing ahead of their peers, but that changes. And there's a consistent picture of evidence that points to the fact that there's a progressive neuropathological change in the disorder. The first comes from as early as Emil Kraplan, who showed that with each episode of illness, the gap between the episode that you've got and the next one that's coming gets shorter and shorter and shorter. So there's this accelerating cascade where illness seems to beget a greater vulnerability to subsequent episodes. The next clue that we had, that there's a progressive process, comes from work of Swan and others, just focus on the white curve. And what you can see is that lithium response runs fairly flat in the early phases of illness. But once you get over about 10 or 12 episodes, the likelihood of you responding to lithium goes off the cliff. So after about 10 to 12 episodes, you cease to respond to lithium as effectively as you did in the early phases of the disorder. And this has been replicated, another study which shows that if you catch bipolar disorder in the first five years, the likelihood of you responding to treatment is very much greater than if you catch it, for example, after 11 to 20 years, or greater than 21 years. Even in psychotherapy literature, there's evidence that stage of illness matters. So this is a well-known paper by Jan Scott, which essentially showed that CBT didn't work for bipolar disorder, but buried inside this data for us was a little treasure. And this was it, that if you look at treatment response by a number of episodes, focus in on the left-hand side of the graph. And you can see that in those people who had between one and six episodes, you had a clear separation with CBT and treatment as usual. CBT really helped. But in people who had more than 30 episodes, they clearly deteriorated with CBT. So stage of illness not only predicts response to pharmacotherapy, but seems to predict response to psychotherapy as well. And we just published this paper looking at atypical antipsychotics. And again, we looked at maintenance treatment of bipolar disorder. We looked at people who were given a lanzipine. And what you can show is that the people who had one to five episodes consistently did better than people in the other groups. And in the relapse to depression, if you look at the bottom part of the figure, people with six to 10 episodes did better than those who had more than 10 episodes. So again, showing evidence that treatment response just declines with the chronicity of the process. So this is the Kaplan-Meier curve from the same study, again showing that those people in the solid line who had one to five episodes clearly did better than those who had greater numbers of episodes. And we've now got new data. This is now unpublished from the STEP-BD study. Now the STEP-BD study, for those of you who might not be familiar with it, is a very large, non-randomized study following up people with bipolar disorder. And this is now, because it's an NIH-funded study, the diet is in the public domain. And so we were able to divide up people using the same broad methodology into those who had one to four in the yellow, five to 10 in the green, and more than 10 episodes in the blue. And what you can clearly see on Madras in the top left, the people had the fewest episodes, had the lowest depression symptoms. On the top right, you can see they had the lowest manic symptoms. And on quality of life and functioning, you saw the exact same pattern, that the guys who had the fewest number of episodes were doing best. And we also had the intriguing opportunity to look at antidepressant response in the study. Again, one of the very few papers in psychiatry that gets published in the New England Journal of Medicine was the antidepressant study in STEP-BD, where they looked at, did antidepressants work for bipolar disorder? And the answer from that study was no. But in the data mining that we've done, we've come out with an intriguing clue. So if you look at those people who've had one to four episodes, look at the top of it. People who are in the early stages of the disorder seem to have a transient response to antidepressants. So they have a response to antidepressants that is evident between about weeks four to eight and nine to 12, and then disappears. So it's early. It only occurs in early illness. And it's transient. It doesn't last. Together with that, you get an increase in manic symptoms. But once you get into five to 10 episodes and more than 10 episodes, antidepressants seem to be of no value. And again, this is the kind of data I like because it really accords with my clinical impressions. So Jin showed you some neuroimaging data. And again, I don't want to go into the details of it. But again, the picture is fairly clear that there appears to be a degenerative process that people in the first episode seem to have relatively preserved ventricular volumes. But with progression of the illness, one gets ventricular enlargement and loss of brain tissue. So again, we've got clinical evidence. We've got neuroimaging evidence of a progressive process. This is the slide that Jin showed. I didn't know he was going to show it, so I won't show it again. But I do want to show you this neuropsychology slide, which is a truly elegant little study coming out of Columbia. What they did is they looked at first episode patients, second episode, and third episode patients. And if you just focus in on the left-hand side of the figure, where you can see it quite clearly, in fact, I suppose you can see it fairly clearly across the figure, you can see that the first episode patients in the blue are doing better than the second episode patients in the red, who are doing better than the third episode patients in the green. So you see this progressive decline in cognitive functions with number of episodes. So there's again this beautiful, consistent picture of a progressive process. There is hope in the sense that there's evidence that lithium-treated patients, lithium-responsive patients, may not show this cognitive decline. So this is data by Yanis Rubikowski, showing that excellent lithium responders seem to have relatively preserved cognitive functions. So there is a suggestion that we might be able to, in some ways, arrest this neuro-progressive cascade. And there's evidence also from other data. This is from the dementia literature, showing, at least in community-based studies, that people who take lithium, if you look at the first column on your left, have a reduced odds ratio for the development of dementia, which is not shared by anti-convulsants, anti-depressants, or anti-psychotics. Again, intriguing data. So let me come to the second bit of this talk. And that is very briefly what might be the processes underpinning this neurotoxic cascade, this process of neuro-progression. Well, one of the key components we think is oxidative stress. And I'm showing you just one for illustration, because one can't show all the data. But this is a meta-analysis of lipid peroxidation, measured using an assay called T-bars. And you can clearly see a very consistent picture that people with bipolar disorder have elevated levels of lipid peroxidation compared to controls. And this is now a very well-replicated finding. There are many other measures of oxidative stress, which for the reasons of time, I can't show you. There's also post-mortem evidence that individuals who have bipolar disorder and for that matter schizophrenia have elevated levels of lipid peroxidation. So this is post-mortem data looking at lipid peroxidation in the singulate. And you can see significantly elevated levels of lipid peroxidation. So where the hell is this coming from? At least one of the sources whereby lipid peroxidation might be occurring is abnormal mitochondrial energy generation. And many of us are now beginning to believe that at the core of bipolar disorder lies aberrant mitochondrial energy generation. And this is one slide by collaborator Tina Andriesa who showed reductions in mitochondrial complex one activity in people with bipolar disorder. It's not yet been replicated, so this is just an intriguing new clue. And we know that chronic mild stress decreases mitochondrial function. So if you take an animal and put them in a chronic stress paradigm, not only do you see reduced neurogenesis, as explained beautifully by our previous speaker, but you can see increases that stress decreases mitochondrial oxygen generation. Lithium seems to up-regulate mitochondrial complex one activity, particularly complex one activity, which is the complex which is predominantly down-regulated as a part of the disorder. So again, this, of course, does not prove anything, but it's a really interesting correlation. We've been interested in glutathione. And glutathione is the brain's primary free radical scavenger. And there's data that it's significantly reduced across psychiatric disorders, so in schizophrenia, major depression, and bipolar disorder. Glutathione is the body's predominant defense against free radical damage. And not only is this relevant to psychiatric disorders, but it's clearly relevant to other disorders such as Parkinson's disease. And we've been interested in NS-style cysteine. Jen showed you, in his presentation, a schema showing that NS-style cysteine is a precursor for glutathione. And there's now evidence that NS-style cysteine has an impact on neurogenesis and on neurite extension. So this is a study from the plastic surgery literature showing that NS-style cysteine enhances neurite extensions. And what these authors also showed was that NS-style cysteine increases the survival and regeneration of sutured peripheral nerves. So if you just eyeball the two blocks in D and G, you can see a significant increase in regeneration of nerves with NS-style cysteine, showing that it might be potentially neuroprotective. So on the basis of this, we went ahead and did a couple of large-scale clinical trials. The first one that we did was in schizophrenia. So we took 140 individuals, treated them for six months, and gave them NS-style cysteine or placebo, in addition to treatment as usual. And what you can see here is a significant effect of NS-style cysteine on many of the core symptoms of schizophrenia. So we saw an effect size of 0.43 on CGI. We saw an effect size of 0.52 on negative symptoms. This was an effect size of 0.57 on PAN's total symptoms. We also saw a reduction in extra-paramidal side effects. And there's fairly good evidence now that there's substantially increased levels of oxidative stress in people who have tartar dyskinesia. Please start to let NAC might have antidepressant effects. So this is preclinical evidence showing that NS-style cysteine reduces immobility in the forced swim test. The forced swim test is the industry standard preclinical paradigm for determining antidepressant efficacy. And you can see at the dose of 50, NS-style cysteine has comparable levels of antidepressant efficacy in this model to imipramine. So we went on and did a clinical trial in bipolar disorder. This had a sample size of about 74 individuals. Again, a six-month study. Again, it was placebo-controlled. Again, it was add-on to treatment as usual. And we were surprised to find even larger effect sizes. So we saw on the Madras, which is our primary outcome, we saw an effect size of 1.4 on bipolar depression rating scale. The other symptom of depression, again, large effect sizes. And on measures of functioning and quality of life, we also saw large effect sizes. So we saw 1.1 on the Rift, 0.93 on the Slice Life. And on quality of life, we saw an effect size of 0.95. So again, this for us highlighted the utility of the translational paradigm in starting with a biomarker of interest and seeing if we can try and modify this to come up with potentially useful treatments. We've now just completed a maintenance study. And I'm afraid it doesn't look quite as good, largely because I think we were underpowered and because of the placebo response. So let me just talk you through what we found. So this is a study we did together with Jen Marley as our primary collaborator. And we gave everybody open-label NAC for a period of eight weeks. And you can see a robust decrease in depressive symptoms in the open-label treatment. The problem is, having got down to very low levels of depression, nobody got ill again. So people in both the placebo and active groups stayed well. So the groups really did not separate. And if we look at survival to depressive episode, the visual, the trend towards superiority of NAC was not statistically significant. And again, we just didn't get have enough events. So even though we had 154 individuals in the study, only about 14 in each individuals had a relapse. So we were really underpowered to show an effect. Let me change gears to the other biomarker of interest. And that's cytokines and other inflammatory markers. Now, there's now a wealth of information showing that people with most major psychiatric disorders, but particularly mood disorders, have elevated levels of inflammatory cytokines. And this is now a well-understood area, and people like Bernard Bowen, amongst others, have contributed to this literature. In bipolar disorder, you see a very similar pattern to what we see in depression, that both in the manic and depressed phases of the illness, you've got significantly elevated levels of cytokines. What's interesting is that this seems to predate the development of illness. So this is data from our epidemiology study, where we followed up 1,000 women for 10 years. We measured cytokines at baseline, and we saw, did cytokines predict who becomes depressed? And here you can see that those people who had the highest levels of cytokines in the green curve had the greatest risks of developing a daynova episode of depression. So nobody had ever before been depressed. And you can see that the people with the lowest levels of cytokines had the lowest risks of developing a first episode of depression, and the people with the highest levels of cytokines had the highest risks of developing a daynova episode of depression. So this motivated us to try and look, well, is there anything you can do about this? Before I get to the treatment, I wanna just show you that these biomarkers really do additionally differentiate stage of illness. And to my knowledge, this is the first data that supports the staging model that Ian Hickey and Pat McGarry have developed. So what you can see is that BDNF is normal in early stage disease, but BDNF starts to drop in late stage disease. So you start to lose your BDNF as the illness progresses. You can see that interleukin-6 and TNF-alpha, the inflammatory cytokines, are elevated both in early and late disease, but the anti-inflammatory cytokine, IL-10, is elevated in early stage disease and falls off in late stage disease. And the hypothesis is that you get loss of your anti-inflammatory compensatory mechanisms as the illness progresses. And you can also see clear changes in the glutathione system with progression of the illness. So let's get back into translational gear. What can you do about this? So, Neri and colleagues looked at the cox inhibitor, selicoxib, as a treatment for bipolar depression. It's a small study, it's underpowered, and it was significant at week one, but not at week six. But it's still an intriguing clue that if one gives agents that are active at inflammatory pathways, you might be able to do something interesting in terms of the management of these disorders. There's an intriguing study came out last year on aspirin. So this was only published about a few months ago, showing that if you give aspirin to people with established schizophrenia, you get a significant reduction in symptoms. So this is not only in PAN's total symptoms in the top left, but particularly in PAN's negative symptoms in the bottom left and PAN's general in the bottom right. So again, who would ever have imagined that aspirin might have utility in psychiatric disorders? But now we're looking at this possibility. The other anti-inflammatory therapy that we've been really interested in is statins. Now, apart from lowering cholesterol, statins have really robust effects in lowering cytokines. So this is relatively old data showing that pretty much all statins lower CRP and other inflammatory cytokines. So we were curious to know, do statins have any effects on risk for psychopathology? And the answer appears to be yes. So again, in our epidemiological study, we looked at people who were or were not on statins at baseline and looked at their risk of developing de novo depression over a 10-year period. And you can see a substantial reduction in the risk for development of de novo depression in people taking statins. The odds ratio in this study was 0.2, indicating an 80% risk reduction. We were really surprised by these data and we wanted to replicate them and we did. So we had another study that we'd completed a while back and realized that we had the data for this. So this was a prospector study following up people who had had a cardiac event. And some of these people were or were not given statins and we looked at, if you got statins, did this influence your risk of developing depression? So at three months, if you took statins, you had a reduction in risk of 69%. And at nine months, you had a reduction in risk of 79%. And there were a whole lot of other factors that were covariate in this model and this held up. I need to emphasize, of course, that this data, as intriguing as it is, does not equate to randomized prospect of clinical trial data. We need to have that kind of data to show that there might be clinical utility. But I think it's an intriguing clue and I think it talks to the validity of the translational model. And there are a whole host of other biomarkers that we're interested in. So this is data looking at leptin and again, using the same design, your levels of leptin seem to predict whether you're gonna be at risk of developing de novo depression. I'll pass on that one. So to summarize, we have a host of potential neuroprotective agents. Some of these are relatively old agents, like lithium, but there are a number of agents acting on a range of novel pathways that might be neuroprotective, that might address biomarkers of interest in these disorders and might lead to the development of novel therapies. So to finish off, we know now that we, there's pretty good evidence that we have got a process of neuroprogression where you've got a accelerating and progressive disease process. There are a number of biological process that seem to underpin these, including dopamine and glutamate, mitochondrial energy generation, oxidative and inflammatory processes in neurotrophins. And we now understand that these are involved in the activity of conventional agents, but these open the door for the development of novel therapies. So I'm gonna finish at this point. Thank you for your attention.


Okay, welcome back to Las Vegas SiliconANGLE.tv's theCUBE. Our flagship telecaster, we go out to the events covered anywhere around the world. Barcelona, Boston, Massachusetts, Orlando, California. And we go out and extract the signal from the noise. We're here at Ulu Packer, it's Gen 8 announcement and I'm John Furrier with Founder of SiliconANGLE, SiliconANGLE.tv, I'm here with my co-host. I'm Dave Vellante of wikibon.org and we are back with a multi-time CUBE guest. Dave Donatelli, David is the executive vice president and general manager of HP's Enterprise, Server, Storage and Networking Group. Welcome again, Dave. Hey, great to be here, guys. We've been talking about convergence. We first had you in theCUBE in Barcelona a couple years ago and we've been having the convergence conversation. This is a new chapter in that conversation with this announcement, great technology. We just kind of gave a grades across the board, me, Dave, and David Floyd here at wikibon. So, a lot of high marks. And this is really changing the landscape of the data center. What are you seeing as the leader of the groups, the convergent group? What's going on in the data center market, the environment? What are some of the dynamics that you're seeing, the top mega trends? Well, I think it all depends what type of data center you're talking about. I mean, we see large cloud-based and single application companies clearly have set out a whole new segment of the marketplace that's very exciting for us and one that we play very large in. We see traditional data center undergoing a lot of change as well. I mean, they're figuring out how to make their current applications relevant in today's kind of mobile and cloud-based world. They have certainly a lot of challenges in getting more agile and more challenges always because of the economy around cost. What we're so excited about with today's announcement was really we set out to take on the challenges that that segment has seen for years, which is how to make servers easier to administer, how to make sure they stay up more often, how to take the burden of really running industry standard servers away and automate it in a way that you would want to do. We've talked in the past and you've mentioned candidly on one of the interviews we did with you that product leadership was job one for you guys. Talk about this announcement from the product leadership standpoint. There's a lot of innovations involved, hundreds of innovations and how does that translate into the benefits of the market? Is it a complex market, existing, a lot of legacy infrastructure in there in terms of servers racked in there? How does this new tech vector into the marketplace? Well, the way we really look at it is we think of all of our technologies as building blocks. So whether it's a server technology, a networking technology, a storage technology, they're the foundation, we want each to be best of breed and we want any customer who looks and says I'm gonna do a comparison of that technology for HP to always win that technology comparison. And then once we're done with that, then we put it together in that converged architecture where you get even more value of having all that together. In servers, we're very proud of the fact that we believe in the last hundred days we presented a whole new server architecture to the industry end to end. Moonshot, we announced November 1st, I don't know if you guys saw that. Yeah, oh yeah. That's when we're talking about, you know, ARM-based and atom-based servers, really next-gen type servers that we're very excited about. Then we bought out Odyssey, which was really talking about how do we bring Linux and Windows and make them safe for really high-end applications that they haven't been able to get to before. And then finally today, if you look what we did with Voyager, it was really how do we take the traditional industry standard server, the bread and butter server for businesses all over the world, and again, do more than just have a new processor, change the entire architecture so that it's a self-supporting, self-sufficient server. So David, you're three years in now almost to HP, right? Goes fast. And yeah, obviously been busy. What I'm, you talked today in your keynote, you talked about, you know, the progress in networking, mentioned the channel affinity, which I wasn't aware that there was that much activity going through the channel. Talked about storage, three-par store once, and you talked, just talked now about the hundred day. What are you most proud of? That's a great question. Well, I tell you, from a peer manager point of view, the people, I think, you know, the HP people really want to make a difference in the industry and really want to add value out there. And I think that is, you know, what I'm proud of is I'm really proud as to lead that group and all the contribution they make. I think on the technology side, what I'm most proud about is the fact that we were bold enough to set out a different agenda for the industry. When we were talking about convergence, it was new. Frankly, it was risky. And I can tell you, although we are very confident in it, you know, the first time you go present something new like that, you could have everybody say, you're crazy, and we're never going to buy that. And we're very, very pleased that when we did announce that, that people agreed with us. They thought it added value, customers liked it, and it's been a fun ride for the last two and a half years, continuing to progress where the technology's headed. Now, we've known each other for a number of years. I've seen your career advance, and so I was talking to somebody earlier, just asking, hey, how's Dave doing? Is he nervous before his keynote? Oh, no, he's used to these things. So what makes you nervous? Not keynotes, although I enjoy keynotes. The reason why keynotes don't make you nervous is that, you know, what I'm pleased with is our strategy's been very consistent. So it's not like we have to go tell a new story every time we do a keynote, because we do a lot of speaking, as you know, in our industry. We're able to just talk about how that story's progressing and how it's benefiting customers and partners. I think the thing that I'm always nervous about is execution. And to me, it's the one element you control as a company, you know, is how well you're executing. How are your programs on time? Do they have the innovations you want? Are you getting done what you set out to do? And, you know, as you say, we're creating things. Creativity is fraught with challenge and risk at all times, especially when you're pushing the envelope. And that's what I spend most of my time really worried about is making sure that we know, we have a point of view of where we think the direction of the industry is going, a point of view of how we take customers there, and then executing around all of our product sets to make sure everything we do is supporting and reinforcing that point of view. So to that end, I mean, let's talk about cloud. Cloud's, to me anyway, kind of a wild card. You know, on the one hand, the private cloud piece, I think it's pretty clear. Yes. You know, and you guys are executing right there. I think there's a big question mark around this whole public cloud thing and cloud service providers, and that all means to the distribution channel. What are you seeing in your customer base in terms of the whole cloud thing? Well, I think if you, I think you have to separate customers from partners and then, you know, again, segment the industry more. I think, as you said, for customers, it's pretty clear. The majority are going private cloud now. It's the safest thing for them to do. It's, you know, when I talk to them around the world, that's what they're doing first. They also, though, if you talk to all of them, want to do some form of hybrid. They want to have burst capacity. They want to be able to, you know, when they're busy at the end of the year or doing financial processing to go out there. But that's kind of a phase two for them. Partners, on the other hand, are starting to figure out how they play in both of those segments. As a partner, do I want to have my own cloud that I could then burst time to? And we're starting to see lots of partners do that. And then, second of all, as a partner, am I gaining the skills to go build one of those clouds for customers? And again, we've seen a lot of progress there in the last year. The third segment of the market that I will speak to again is the standalone folks. These are the Facebooks, the Yahoo's. I use them as example names.  Large companies, huge server storage networking footprints, typically running one or two custom applications. And they're kind of in a whole separate segment. And we play in all three of these segments. What's interesting is this segment is driving new deployment models, new server models, new storage models. And I think the exciting thing about that is, not only that exciting segment, but that's bringing innovation that you'll see come across to traditional data centers pretty soon. Because Moonshot and Voyager kind of, you know, point to that first piece, right? Moonshot, very much so. Yeah, very much so. And Voyager, I guess to a certain extent, in terms of automation, right? Yes, absolutely. So two years ago when we were in Barcelona, we asked a question and you kind of gave us the answer well, so that's not my group. I think you might know the question we were asking. We asked, what's going on with big data in your group? Because big data was in that storage, kind of the early days of big data. This was two years ago and now it's completely morphed into a category. Yes. With the Claudiers out there and see Vertigo within HP. There's a huge data story in this announcement. Data being used for analytics and Splunk is going to go public at a billion dollar plus valuation and they're doing big data for log files. So it's obviously analytics are really important. How does that big data segment look to you? Because it's got a storage field to it.  It kind of is kind of coming to the edge. So is that in, how does that enter into your equation? Well, as you know, we play in big data, both with software. If you look at Vertica or you look at some of the other products Autonomy has all around the big data space and that's the pure application of it. But the other thing is to enable that, you need a different storage architecture. You need a different server architecture in order to get the price performance that's really required out there. So when I spoke about that segment, the cloud based segment, what's interesting is a lot of the technologies we're developing there are going to play directly into big data. The other thing I'll tell you is that traditional technologies that have been around in storage, in servers, have to change for big data. And again, that's why we're so excited that we're already so big in this other new segment because we have taken the step of building much more power efficient servers, much more scalable servers and then storage that can meet the price points and the density requirements that you see in big data. So you feel good that you guys are positioned well for that kind of where the puck is going to be if you will. Yes, and if you look at us as a company, right? Where are areas where the puck is going that we have huge investments in? We have huge investment in cloud and you're gonna see more coming out about that this year. Security is a huge area. I mean, if you look at the fact now that security issues have moved from a couple 16 year olds with pimples in their bedroom trying to have fun with corporate America to now state sponsored organizations who are looking to break in, this is a whole new realm that I think people haven't really digested yet. So that's a big area for us. Then finally, whether you call it big data or in addition, it's cousin unstructured data. That's clearly where the puck is going and with autonomy and vertical assets, that's where we're really playing. Yeah, and the other thing I like about your strategy is clean infrastructure for whatever, whatever workload application. That's right. As John said, it's getting to the puck. Okay, Dave Donatelli, EVP, storage, networking, everything servers at HP. Congratulations on your success three years now. We're big fans. I love the support. Appreciate the interview and great announcement. Oh, it's great to see you guys. It's great to see you, Dave. Pleasure. Okay, we'll be...


I hope so. They're babies.  That's what babies do. Yeah, for sure.  Don't forget to follow us on Instagram, Twitter for our juicy content. Thanks for watching, follow us on Twitter again, and subscribe again, like, button. Felt bad for her. Like, thanksgiving. She's just... She just comes out and she's got him under her shirt. She's got this look on her face, like, that's all I am to this guy. That's all I am. That's all he wants. Essentially. And then when he grows up, his wife's gonna feel exactly the same way. Tell her it could be worse. You could have one on each. It's true. It's true. You know what? I'm gonna tell her that. I'm gonna say, you know, you think you got a bad talk to Stephanie? She can't even walk around with both of my... She has to be sitting down to do it. Today, we're talking about breastfeeding children, not today. Yes. But that's just what we were just doing. And hey, if a lady's... You know what? It's a fun fact. I cannot to do that. Me too. And if a lady's breastfeeding her child in public, it's normal. Let her do it. PSAs. It's a boob. PSAs.  I am. Today.  We got a... Such a dundulke! Whoa! Speaking of somebody who doesn't suck... Also known as the God of Cricket. What? What an ink name. But this is a 20 Master Class Strokes. So I guess this is gonna go through a different stroke. Reminds me of the night I had with your mom. That gun of stroke. Yeah.  Yes, of course she did. That's a lot of different variations of strokes. That's true. But we kind of saw a different one of his strokes in one of the batting videos. Yeah, we sure did. His was so unique. Pretty amazing. His was the helicopter, right? Yeah, he had a bunch. He had a helicopter one. He had... I don't know, I won't even pretend to know what those names were. Here we go. And watch. Part of that is...  He got up before it hit the ground. Did he step up into that? Looks like it. Oh! Did he hit that? No, he did not. Show it again. Show it again. That bounced so far ahead. Oh my goodness. My word. And that was intact. He meant to do that. That was not inadvertent. That was unbelievable. That was insane. Nice. What a great shot. Yeah, there is so much finesse. That was insane. That was insane. into it and next thing you see she's leaning back simple movements yeah there's so much finesse see what an unbelievable stroke from the Indian captain Alan Donald screaming in with a new ball that's a good shot dang what a placement 3300s wow that was just like a little push boys played well like to know sometimes it's just a push sometimes it's a half hit sometimes it's a full swing his brain must work at like oh three times the speed of everybody else's yeah to know millisecond decision-making that seemed like a helicopter is that the helicopter dang good grief what the oh my goodness yeah he just let it like ricochet off the bat that was just a stick it up and let it ricochet and that's a full that's a six a full swing so many variations from Sachin Tendulkar as easy move into the ball oh wow that was poorly played yikes bro yikes that's a six Sachin Tendulkar has always been a marvelous on-driver of the ball just right in between there's four guys standing there lazy right back up the middle yeah that was a master class i am yeah great name for the video i'm a layman obviously compared to what most people know about cricket but that was uh it's so impressive funny especially like the ones that go like it bounces yeah and he's like i'm gonna hit it up here and it's just gonna slide off the end of my bat here right and to know whether or not you're gonna do that or if you're gonna give it a little push oh my word because there's people behind you and i'm sure he probably has a decision he makes sometimes on release and then makes a split decision at the end based on where it's landing it's just how many variations on the swing i'm sure it's unlimited the number when you include every body part when you include what the hands are doing the wrist the arms the legs the body leaning forward leaning back leaning to the side certain athletes are just there um especially in the different sports and everything the great ones their mind always works at 10 times the yes and their hand-eye coordination that ever like michael or coby or exactly um lebron people of that echelon of elite athletes and their their focus yeah it just their brain like it's it's almost probably like it's in slow mo for them sometimes yeah i think i've heard coby say that yeah that when he's in the zone or maybe it was um jordan that there oh no that's what it was coby said that there's some games where the the the whole looks huge to him he just knows he can't miss just it's it's just huge yeah it's a whole other level imagine it's the same with yeah it really is a call it freakishness call it giftedness it's it's a level of human ability that is not normal or common it's funny have you seen all the the world cup the england and america oh all the all the trolling that's going on like the americans trolling the british like this is your main sport this isn't even a top five sport for us and you couldn't even beat us you don't have the right to tell us it's not called soccer speaking of which little side note i just found out do you know the origins of the name soccer british yeah but it like it wasn't called soccer here because we were dumb about it no it's because by the time of sport got here football was already a big sport here in the nfl yep and it was the british thing of calling it it was a soccer association differentiating it from rugby and that's why it it came into play because we already had the word football over here but uh yeah but at the same time that's the first time we've been shut out in the world cup by a european team since the 1950s well we suck at soccer yeah men's men's yes yeah but people are just saying imagine if our best athletes put it into so we've sent our best athletes to soccer we would be just unstoppable because our best athletes do not go to soccer here no obviously i'm i played soccer my entire life soccer is a very specific sport you need to have a very specific body type and a skill set obviously so i'm not saying like just because you're good at one sport you can do another sport no that's very very true also if you're athletic that's a natural gifting that a lot of people have that can translate our natural gifted athletes do not go to soccer here no in the slightest they they typically are in college many of the athletes can play baseball football and basketball but they'll like sell it one of those and go pro in one of those yeah and you can see the difference like remember when jordan tried to play majorly baseball he just is not good no um but like imagine if like the uh richard sherman in his heyday who was running down the soccer field no or like you'd have like the one of the best a jim rice field goal kickers and sure fell justin tucker can kick almost an 80 yard field right it's not going to translate yeah but imagine if they put all their athletic skill into soccer well you know what does work it would be killer soccer slash football players who go into the mba do well because of how well they flop remember money jenobley how bad he would flop yeah all the time absolutely anyways the fantastic video sarshan is the god of cricket my goodness no no doubt about him anyways let us know what other videos we can react to of his or other cricket videos let us know down below


Love is demeanor. Oh, Halliburne did the splits. Oh, that's not good at all. Gets called for the travel. That did not look like it felt good. That's the second time he slipped around the restricted area over here. Oh, this is not good. All right, now, there's some conversation. Bruce Brown talking to Celtic's bench. Tony Dobbins comes over to smooth it over. Halliburne now hunched over. And they finally do call the timeout. Celtic's bench was saying they got a call one. And Bruce Brown was telling them he slipped and did the splits. We're hoping to give him a second. You ever do that, Scout? I slipped one time and I tore a hamstring. Like, just ripped it up. I mean, rehab now is so much better. And look, I've never felt the same. Man, this is a tough sight.  Can't even see his face. One of the most exciting young players in the NBA. Slated to be an all-star starter. He got his organization heading in the right direction. They have an identity. And that's like the margins in the NBA once slipped. That's tough. You hate to see that. That's been a physical game. The physicality had nothing to do with that one.


As chair of the society, I have to take on a series of roles and responsibilities. People get on well with me. I'm often told I'm like Arlene Foster. I don't know who that is, but I think she's a badass bitch, so that's cool. I have inspired many past students, many of them idolise me. There's this one girl here called Joan, and I helped her really grow into her own person. She's now a system manager down at the Topaz down in the road, so God on her! Well, she only got that job because the old assistant manager kept molesting all the girls at the deli, but sure luck.


It's Diddy Canem back today with another video. Choose your seat between them if you're not subscribed. Go ahead and subscribe, buddy. Give me a thumbs up and do not skip those ads. In this video, guess what we got? We got Rody. Yeah, I said Rody. Next we got Deliver That. Deliver That? Yeah, we got Deliver That.  Oh, y'all ready to get busy? Let's go. Guess what? We just got an order on Rody, Rody, Rody with a dab of ranch. A Rody order from Walmart. Guess what? I'm gonna say this before we get there. We pulling in right now. It doesn't say an extra large item. I don't know if it's gonna fit in Snow White. I'm not comment below and let me know. But it is 12 miles and we're gonna receive $28.45. Enough money to pay the rent. Let's go. We gonna see if this joint gonna fit, man. Hey, I was driving, I was driving. And I'm like, I don't know if this joint gonna fit in here. Let's see. Guess what, baby? We made it, look at that. We got that, we got that ladder right back there. That joint slid right in. We came to get it in. We had to put the seats down because we ain't playing around. Let's go. We are here to jump this order to get in order. You know what I'm talking about? Hopefully here, so we can get busy.  One R, right here.  They about to get in. Right. Well, they ain't answering the door. So guess what? About to leave this joint right here. Rody said leave it right here if they don't answer the door. I kind of, I'm gonna leave it over here. So not in a way of when people gotta ring the bell. Step back in with that photo, y'all know those. Let's go. Guess what? We got us one on. Deliver that if you don't like it, we'll leave it like you can be in the back seat. Give me, give me, give me. Deliver that. The pickup place is Teriyaki Madness. The order cost is $590. The estimated distance is 10.1 miles, drive time 18 minutes, and we will receive a minimum payment of $32.91. And 91 send enough money to pay the rent. Come up below and let me know if you do this order or not. Also, if you want to sign up for deliver that, all you have to do is click the link in the description and sign up. We here at Teriyaki Madness, stop the madness. Let's go. This is Joan, baby. Hope they got us together so we can run each other. Hello. It's not done yet. Okay. Do you know how long it's gonna be? Are you not sure? It's for 11. So I want to see maybe 15 more minutes. Okay. I don't know why on my episode it's 10.55. And it wastes you guys way too much money. Every time. Every time. Okay. No big deal. So you said like 15 minutes? Maybe like 15, maybe 20 at the most. Maybe 50 minutes. Hopefully not. All right. Thank you. I'm back. It was like another minute. 20 every day in the box. Okay. Thank you. Okay. We got this. And then that's the second box. That's the last one. Yeah. Okay. 30 times a charm. Huh? 30 times a charm. Yep. Thank you very much. You guys have a good one. Have a good day. Our hitter draw up this order to get it ordered. That's what I'm gonna do.  You know how we gonna slide. We ain't bragging. We got this wagon. Get so much money. Our pants sagging. Grab this joint. Put it right here. Bingo. Grab this other joint. Put it right there. Bingo. Hold it, John. Let's get it on. This joint smelling good too.  Use it right here. This John. Last time she was right there. Right on top. You brought the little car. I saved your trip this time. You don't have to come on side in the cold. Yeah, I know. How you doing? I'm doing good to yourself. Good. You working hard or hardly working? Working hard. I always go with that. You have a great one. Enjoy it. Yeah, same to you. Yes, ma'am. This is not too cold. Yeah, it's not bad at all. You have a good one. We're feeling very good. Yeah, we have to. Hopefully, it don't start snowing. I don't mind the cold, but the snow. It's nice. Yeah. Yeah. You make our life miserable. Yeah. You have a good one. Okay. Thank you. Let's go. We got us one on over East Japotle, baby, pointing our miles for 614. We hot like scorching. Let's go. I'm glad you guys are with me. Let me see if they got this one ready. Keep it safe.  They left. I'm out. We're picking up our pick up for David M. Thank you. You have a good one. Let's go. Here to drop this order. We're trying to get it in order. They said, leave it at the front desk. Leave it at the front desk. Hello. How you doing? I have a delivery for David M. David Montoya. Okay. Okay. Thank you. You have a great day. Guess what? We got another one. Another one for 1.1 miles for Niggatease, baby, for 640 shorty. We in this zone, baby. We here at Niggatease, baby. Are you trying to get it? Is it? I have to work. Look at up there. I hope they got this. Shoot. 687F. E7F. Yes, sir. Thank you. You have a good one. We're back at the same place you just said before, baby. Hello. Come on in. Thank you. I'm going to have a delivery for Nemesis. Should I leave it right here? You can leave it right there. Thank you very much. You guys have a good one. You too. We got us one, baby. Instacart. Costco. We here to get dough. We got us 13 items, 7.4 miles for 2832. Y'all know what we about to do. What we about to do? Get busy. Let's go. Baby, we have to get some eggs. We have to get some dishwasher cleaner. We have to get sparkling water. Milk. That boy needs some milk. And also have to get some bacon. You ain't making no bacon? Let's go. First thing we are going to get is some milk. That boy needs some milk. We need two gallons of milk. I think this, this has this green. I'm guessing it fits right here. One, two, three into the foam. Got that. Next up, we have to get this spinach. Hopefully finish on three and one. Got that. We also need to get some Kleenex. So me and my business partner switched. She got the bacon and I'm getting this Kleenex. Get this first one right here. Grab that. Then we need to get this sparkling water. That 30 Bopper. Oh no, we're trying to get our pockets fat like sumo. This one says meet customers. We're going to try to meet them and see if they're going to come out or not. Because guess what? If they don't, we're going to get it on. Hey doggie doggie, don't get me doggie. Don't get me, it's okay. It's okay. Hello. Okay. Oh, well I hope you get well. So you have a great day. Number two it says do not run in doorbell. Because they got a sleeping baby inside. Don't run in doorbell. We're just going to put this stuff right here. Don't get it on. Let me get this out. Because it's going to be hard to get it going out. Drop it like it's hot. I'm glad the door is right here. So I don't have to be pouring it up and down. Steps and all that stuff. Like it's hot. Let's go. Guess what? We got another one. Another one on Instacart. Costco. Two orders. 20 items. 27.1 miles for 42.12. Wait up and put it on the scale. This question. I know you wonder. Now why would I take this order? The reason why I'm taking this order. Because it's going to take us white towards home. We're here to get it on. Let's go. We're back again baby. So this time I have to get some paper plates. Some granola. And some broccoli. I may have to get some beef. It depends on where it's located in the stove. You know I'm trying to stove. I'm all in the middle of the lane. I'm going to do my thing. First up we got this granola baby. I ain't going to lie. We love some granola. Granola beef. Bang it. Like that. Next up is broccoli.  And the last thing we need to get is paper plates. Don't be good. Be great. And don't hate. I'm going to turn it around so they can get it. Season. Drop like it's hot. Let's go. We are here to drop off order number two. This one says do not ring the doorbell. They're going to come here and knock me out. Drop like it's hot. Step back with that photo. Let's go. And just like that it is the end of the video. I hope you guys enjoyed the content. Y'all saw us get busy baby. We did six orders and we made 144 34. Y'all saw us go. Y'all saw us get the dough. I hope you guys enjoyed the video. Again, if you are not subscribed, go ahead and subscribe. But give me a thumbs up and do not skip those ads. And lock in tomorrow because we get back to this bag. Why we get back to this bag? Because 2023 is big bag season. We don't keep on giving a reason. I'll see you guys on the next one. We grew up. We grew up. We flew on you already knowing the DDK. And I'm on my way.