The Cube at EMC World 2014 is brought to you by EMC. Redefine VCE. Innovating the world's first converged infrastructure solution for private cloud computing. Brocade. Say goodbye to the status quo and hello to Brocade. Welcome back, we are here at EMC World 2014, day three of wall to wall coverage on the Cube. I'm Jeff Frick. As you know, the Cube goes out. The events extract signal from the noise. We get the smartest people in the room. We get them on the Cube. We ask them lots of great questions. This is our fifth year at EMC World. It's a very special show for us because it's actually where we launched the Cube in 2010. So we're going to jump right into it. I'm joined in my next segment with Ganesh Radh Krishnan. Did I get it wrong? Did I get it right? You did well. You did well. Pretty close, I'm sorry. CEO of Worfdale Technology Group. Welcome to the Cube. Thank you. Thank you for having me here, Jeff. Pleasure. So big announcement. You guys are all about SAP virtualized HANA. There's some announcements going on. Tell us what's going on. Oh, there are a lot of great stuff going on. And we are very excited to have the announcement coming yesterday from Pat or VMware CEO on announcing SAP to production HANA to run on VMware vSphere 5.5. Also great announcement with David and other players at EMC announcing Viper 2.0 and Elastic Cloud. These are all very good for us because it's going to help our customers greatly. And that is a very interesting thing which is happening. So these are the big announcements by the big execs at the big show. You're out in the field working with real customers on the ground getting this stuff implemented. So tell us a little bit about what's happening in the field within your customer base on some of the move to virtualization and what you're seeing. As you know, Jeff, we had been in the space and we have been pioneered in doing SAP both on virtualization space for the last eight years and the cloud space for the last three years being the first certified cloud services partner for Americas by SAP. We had been engaged with a lot of customers. We have pretty close to 170 plus enterprise customers. We work on the Fortune 500 companies. What we have largely seen initially, SAP was customers were having the struggle to move their big irons into a virtual machines. Now we have trespassed at a phase which the last two, three years, now SAP customers are very welcoming to move on. Still there is a lot more to go even though all these new things are coming in. But there is a very big change in the market where when we started Cloud three years back, the interest shown by SAP customers, we thought it was going to be more mid-range customers. But to our surprise, it was so encouraging that enterprise customers wanted to initially run those project systems, test and development systems, or sandboxes we call it. And it so happened now. We had been telling at theCUBE three years back also the hybrid cloud, which is the most interesting part, which a lot of customers are quite interested, enterprise customers are quite interested to lower their cost on their IT space. So not only the first thing virtualization helped them to lower the cost, but doing a hybrid cloud is going to help for the more. Right, right. So you're saying you expected the mid-range customers to be more aggressive in their migration to the cloud, but that you're happy to see the enterprise guys are going there as well. But I would imagine as part of their kind of larger virtualization strategy, was it just because it was so difficult to migrate? SAP stuff, what did you think was holding them back? It's basically because as we all understand SAP being a 40 years old product, and it has come through a long way, still there are certain components within SAP because it is a business driver, it is not just one simple product, it has more modules to it. There are certain challenges when it comes to legacy applications which are trying to communicate back to SAP, even though SAP has come a long way, but a business cannot function just with SAP, but what has happened drastically is in this last two, three years, with the infrastructure side of it, the automation, we call it because we had been working with customers on the new technology which is software defined data center, and software defined particularly from an SAP standpoint, basically VMware has done a wonderful job. We are working very closely as a strategic partner through EMC, VMware, and SAP. We had been putting all these things together like VCAC, VCloud Automation Center, with SAP LVM. These are two areas which we are helping assisting customers to show them how much value it can bring in. Right, well clearly the SAP EMC relationship is very strong, Bill McDermott joined live during the keynote yesterday. We had some guests on yesterday as well talking about the Alliance. So what do they need to do next? What are some of the things that you would like to see being out in the field that the customers are asking for as we continue down this journey? Actually EMC with all these federated companies and the federated model what they have been doing is a fabulous thing, but there is a lot of confusion too because EMC, VMware, Pivotal, RSA, and SAP, all these things coming together, the basic thing what we had been doing in the market or we have to continue to do in the market is to educate the customers. There are a lot of moving parts. Customers are a bit confused with so many things happening at the same time. That is something which I felt educating the customer what value these things can drive them because on a surface level talking about hybrid clouds, surface level talking about software defined is all great, but how a customer can seamlessly migrate into these platforms is something which we need to educate them. Right, so there's some particular best practices that you can share with the audience that you guys have seen doing a number of these with a lot of customers in terms of how they start that journey and kind of what are the steps along the path that most of them will go down? You hit on the right point. It is basically not a migration, it is more a journey. And specifically when we talk about private clouds for SAP it is a journey and that journey has already started three years back. The journey started at the compute level. Now what is happening more and more with our customers it is happening at the storage layer. Because as we all understand the networking layer like NSX being introduced by VMware very recently still it is going to take some time but what is happening within our customer as a journey the next journey happening is on the storage level and that is where I say EMC is playing a great role in that spot. They understood what is happening, they understood and they have brought in very strategic products. And do you see the primary drivers in your customer base being simply they know they've got to get to virtual environment, it's pressure on budgets in terms of higher resource utilization, what are some of the main factors or is it just this kind of continual march to the inevitable in terms of the virtualized environments? Basically as you rightly said always that budget is going to be there. Whatever the reductions happen within the IT space the constant struggle between SCFO and SCIO is going to be there within all these enterprises but that being said that is not the key driver in the last, I can say last six months to eight months what I'm seeing is customers from SAP customers are more looking into automation. They're more looking into productivity. So with all these automations with these new softwares that is the biggest driver for customers looking at all these new technology. Basically when it comes to new projects they're always been scrambling for getting new hardware and other things with all this VCHS type of announcement this is going to help them a lot. And what about the other big trend of a BYOD and mobile? How is that impacting your customers and what you guys are doing? Is that a driver at all or are the applications being responsive enough to that or is this more kind of upstream ERP stuff that's not really touching that trend? Basically as we both understand mobility and social media is going to make a major play as we go along there's nothing no companies can say I'm going to completely avoid and move on. Within SAP customers this is something very interesting because that's where HANA comes into play. We are doing a lot of HANA based work. HANA with the announcement as we said yesterday it's going to help the customers to optimally I call it implement HANA for making their analytics driver going on basically all this analytics driver goes back into mobility which is like you looking at all those dashboards onto your iPads or other smart devices this is really happening but what happens within SAP customers their infrastructure is still struggling. So even though on one end these things developments keeps on happening the other side in terms of infrastructure readiness that is where we come in as a strategic players to help our customers how we can consolidate how we can make these things happen how we can make it agile for these mobility and other platforms to go on. And then how much services do you wrap around around your solutions in terms of really educating and not just basically dropping in turning it on setting it up and leaving. Do you have a lot of ongoing services that you have with the customers as they continue to move down the journey? This is a great question and that is where we make as a Warfutile technologies we call it at WFT cloud makes a very big difference in the market for SAP. We do SAP and SAP only on our clouds so what we are making is a lot of customers having the fear if from their primary data center if they move on to a cloud where they don't know where the data is they don't know what is happening the support that is where we come as a strategic players not only making them understand what these technologies are helping them migrate and to manage them on a 24 by seven. This helps customers to reduce anywhere between 28 to 35% cost reduction in terms of overall 28 to 35% cost reduction. 28 to 35% cost reduction. And that is what the main message to all the customers we give and customers are very excited because we are not only hand holding them but also some customers want to get trained over a period of time. And to get the transition done seamlessly. And that is where we act differently than any other companies. We don't provide infrastructure. We provide infrastructure from the major player like VCHS or the main cloud providers but we provide our services, manage services and we are located in all over the world like in Canada, in Spain, in Dubai, in India so we can strategically manage our customer 24 by seven. It's been a lot of time on airplanes. Oh. So I'll give you the last word before we go out. So this is 2014, you've been doing this for a while. What do you think we're going to be talking about in 2015 that we're going to see in this next 12 months? Basically the next 12 months is going to be very interesting and very challenging. What we are looking from our end, it's going to be SAP HANA. SAP HANA going in production on a virtual stack. This is going to help customers not only drive all those VMware software capabilities like their high availability, their disaster recovery software, all these things can be combined and as well as like new areas when it comes to EMCY for 2.0 type of products it's going to make it more software defined with SAP LBM type of product going to be tightly integrated. It is going to be an interesting journey the next 12 months because customers we have to go back to our customers, educate them on these technologies and also to help them get it done because one announcing good products but the other thing is making it happen in the market. That is what we do. Right. No that's exactly right. It's where the rubber meets the road you know it's where this stuff gets implemented we've been fortunate to have a number of customers on the show as well over these last couple of days which is why we love to get them on because it's great to talk about but at the end of the day you got to put it in play you got to see business value and it's got to work for you. So goodness thanks for coming on the Cube appreciate you stopping by. So again this is Jeff Frick we're on the Cube VMworld excuse me ETHMC World I've been doing that all week part of the Federation so that's all good. At the EMC World 2014 day three wall to wall coverage two cubes, six hosts more crew than we can count we're having a good time we'll be back with our next guest after this short break. Thank you.


What's going on guys, welcome back to another video. If you guys are new to the channel, make sure you guys hit that subscribe button.  If you guys have seen the last video where she got me, oh, the neighbor gave me flowers. The neighbor said I was pretty and I thought he was cute and yeah, yeah, yeah. She thinks it's funny to do something to me like that. I went to the neighbor's house and confronted him about it. If you guys did not see that video, go to our previous video, watch that, because I'm not gonna lie. I give credit words, dude, she got me with that one. But today we're gonna be getting the ultimate revenge, guys. As you guys can tell by title and thumbnail of the video, today I'm gonna be telling her that my best friend, my bestest of best, best, best, best friend, thinks that we shouldn't get married. I'm gonna come up to her, I'm gonna tell her like, babe, guess what, I just got off the phone with Miguel. He says that he don't think it's a good idea to get married right now, yada, yada, yada.   And guys, the cherry on top of all this is that I'm gonna be like, I'm not gonna lie. I kinda agree with Miguel. I don't think we should be getting married. And bro, she is going to freaking flip the heck out. If you guys are ready for today's video, make sure you guys smash that thumbs up button. Comment down below Team Isaiah all day every day because I, oh my God, today's gonna be the ultimate, the sweetest revenge. Let's get to it. What are you supposed to be going down? That thing is fire. What is that? The pineapple sparkling water. Oh, I don't know. I see that and you're gonna get me anything. Do you want baking soups, bikinis? I thought you were gonna say bacon. I was about to say yes. So I just got off the phone with Miguel. Okay. And we had a pretty deep conversation. About? Us, me and you.  Why are you talking about like us? Like what is there to talk about us? So we were talking about, he asked me what I wanted to do for the bachelor party. Oh, okay, so it's about the wedding. Yes. Okay. So I told him, I was like, I'm not really sure, bro. Like I told him, I was like, you know me, I'm not detected. Like go out to like clubs and get ratchet. I was like, honestly, I'm just trying to like turn up all my boys and that's it. I already told him no strippers. I don't, babe. How many times do I have to tell you? I don't care for a stripper. I'm just saying, I already told him that. I don't care for the stripper. If you told him that, then okay. If he could, all right. But let it be known, if he comes out with a stripper, you cannot get mad at me. No, then me and him are gonna have to fight because I already said no. All right, so enough between. And he's going against what I said. Then that's between y'all. Okay. Okay. But I'm letting you know, be known right now. I'm telling you again, I don't care for a stripper. Okay, I understand that. What are you gonna do? Nothing, what do you want me to do? Tell her to go home. I'm telling him to go home. He paid for that. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. Do you tell him to go home? I'm telling you the word. You're gonna tell her to go home. That's his problem, whatever. Leave me out of that. All right. I don't know, you're gonna be confused. So, he asked me what I want to do and I was like, bro, I really don't care. You already know I'm not about that club life. If anything we could go to a bar and, you know, drinks and stuff like that. But I was like, I'm honestly perfectly fine. I'm just bringing drinks back to the Airbnb and just getting lit there. Cause, you know, we're trying not getting like Airbnb, like a pool and all that type of stuff. So I'm like, why leave the house? Okay.  And I'm like, we've been good. I was like, you know, nothing out of the ordinary. You know, just normal stuff. He was like, oh, so you still think like getting married or you proposing was a good idea? And I was like, Why would he just randomly say that though? I know, that's why I'm like, what the hell? I'm like, yeah, I was like, why? That's not weird. Yeah, I'm like, why wouldn't I be like, you know? So I started questioning it.   So I'm like, No, you don't. I was like, how? I was like, what do you mean by that? I was like, isn't it the same thing as just being engaged? He was just like, yes and no. He was like, when you're married now, he was like, obviously you're married. He was like, you got that title, but Yeah, the title makes no difference. We've been living together.  That's the thing though. He said that his wife was saying the same thing, but all of a sudden once they got married and they have that title, she's been acting different.  He was like, bro, just be aware of that. He was like, I see like all my married friends and all these married people. He was like, they suddenly go downhill and the guy kind of like loses his freedom. That's not true.  He started like, you know, making sense.  And I'm like, nah, I'm like, now that you've put it like that, nah, not really. I mean, of course not. Who wants to live a life like that? So, yeah, so I'm like, I was like, I don't know, but I was like, you kind of got me like second guessing like this wedding stuff. He was like, bro, honestly, he was like, me. So I'm like, bro, he was like, bro, take the time.  He was like, you're gonna marry in October. He said it's February. So that's what like eight months ago.    I let you go out. I don't even like say that you can't do this, can't do that. I don't care what you're doing. You know that. I've always been that way. It's not gonna change when we get married. I really don't think that she can. So I don't know what he's coming up with that stuff. I don't think she's like that either. I thought Gab, you know, his wife, I thought she was cool. I didn't see no issues or anything like that. But he's telling me now on the phone when I'm upstairs like, yo bro, like I can't leave that.  So I'm like, bro. I find that so hard to believe that this, that just doesn't sound right. Like that sounds mad weird. I know, that's what I'm saying. I'm like, bro, I didn't know that it was like that. He was like, bro, he was like, take my word. Okay, well, that doesn't mean that that's gonna be us. Like, I don't know what you're letting him get in your head about us. I'm not gonna lie though. Like I kind of agree with him. I don't agree with him on what? I don't know if we should get married. Like after everything he told me saying that he thinks that we shouldn't get married, I'm not, I can't. Why are you saying that? Why are you saying that? We can still be engaged. We can, we can still get married. Do you not realize or everything? You should just postpone. Why? Because? Because you wanna look at me. Think about what he said. What do you have to think about saying dictate your life? Why are you getting so mad? Because that's dog. You're literally saying you don't wanna marry me anymore because he's saying that he has a freedom. That's his problem. That's none of our business. I'm not saying I don't wanna marry you. I'm saying I'm postponing so I can actually think if we should get married. Not that we break up. You're literally saying I don't wanna get married. I'm saying I wanna think about if I want to get married in October.  I'm not saying I don't want to. I'm questioning if I should. You shouldn't be questioning Shea. Why are you so mad, Reggie? Because this is what somebody else says. Is this what it's gonna be?  No, you don't? Yes, I do. You wanna cheat, that's something else. Don't be single then.  Exactly. Like what? I'm not okay with that. That's like being in jail. That's like cheating. That's like being in a jail. That's when our strippers do. They're not supposed to make contact with you. Bro, you got a private stripper to go to the Airbnb. What do you think? I don't know what she's doing. What do you mean? So let's get this straight. Because you're scared to be committed. How do you know what he's projecting on? You're not making sense. I'm single. He wants to go out and do single things that he should never got married. That's one. Two, you're saying you don't wanna get married? Why?  I didn't say that. And you're not making sense. I'm not talking anymore. You're not making any sense. You don't wanna get married. You're not making sense. You hear what she said.  Did you hear what you said?  How am I scared to commit me if I've been with you for eight years? Bro. How am I scared to commit? You're just scared to lock in. You're scared of that too. I've been locked in. I locked in when I'm not scared. I'm just doubtful. Because you're letting your best friend get in your head that quickly about me. Then go ahead. You made a lot of sense. All right, go ahead. Let me say dollars, all that, how you want. All right, so whatever. I guess we're not getting married. Yeah, I guess not. So go and cancel everything and then see who's gonna be there for you whenever the time comes when you need somebody. Because I won't be around. Come here. Nope. Come here. Nope. Come here. Go hug Miguel. Come here. Yeah, both gonna be single together. Tell you that right now. Wait till I tell Gabba. I'm about to call her right now. Nope. Why are you touching me? What? No, bro. It's a joke. It was a prank. It better be because I was right. I never told me any of that type of stuff. So don't go telling Gab anything because that's not the case. That was never the case. Disclaimer, that was never the case. Yeah. All right guys, so obviously that was a major success. That was a major dub right there. Annoying. It was a major dub. That was probably like my top five best W's ever made on this channel. No. I think it was because I think that was top five, the most angriest I've seen you in a video. Like that is definitely like top five. If you guys enjoyed today's video, make sure you guys smash that thumbs up and comment down below Team Isaiah all day every day. Again, I want to get married. Show them the ring. Show them the ring. Do you think that I will put a rock on her freaking finger that big if I didn't want to get married? If I didn't want to get married? I don't think so. We get married October 16th, 2024. It's going to be crazy. And then we're going to have a child and then we're going to live happily ever after. Okay. And it's going to be the best thing ever. We'll see you guys in the next video.


MCDC now, odds are moving heavily in his favor to win coach of the f***ing year. Betters are high on Dan Campbell for coach of the year. Pro football talks Mike Florio reported that and then we looked into it. That's a very real thing. I asked Foxy why. Foxy says, well, people must think that we're this year's bangles. Bangles go from winning four games to losing in the Super Bowl. Now Joe Burrow gets hurt halfway through that year so we don't even really see what their team could be like with an absolute superstar quarterback for the bangles. So I believe they might be an anomaly, but if the Lions are the next team that's going to go, what a time to be a Lions fan. Wow, and we have hard knocks so people are going to see us. We're kind of America's sweetheart right now. Evie, but what does that mean? Who cares? What does the coach of the year mean? Don't you care more about like what their record is or how many playoff games they win? I'm assuming if he's coach of the year that means we're making the playoffs and potentially winning a playoff game for the first time in my life. They got to win at least one, right? They got to win at least one playoff game for him to get coach of the year. They win five games. I think we're all going to be pretty impressed.


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Hello everybody, E here welcome back to 31 days of Halloween where I'm doing 31 days of Daily horror slash Halloween content and today I'm reviewing the movie cobweb Starring Anthony star homelander himself Lizzie Kaplan woody Norman, but the star of the show here and we're gonna get to her more in a minute is Cleopatra Coleman as miss divine. Let's jump into the review. So cobweb is a very I Don't want to say slow burn But it's it's certainly in a build-up the entire movie is about pacing It gets more and more tense as it goes along. It's about young Peter Played by woody Norman. I believe that's his name Peter's character is fantastic the the actor does a fantastic job The parents everyone in this movie absolutely killed it. I want to get that out of the way first Before I talk about my favorite character The cast is amazing everything that happens that like I said, I look for three things in in movies books and just Media in general characters pacing and dread The dread is off the charts because the pacing is off the charts because the characters are awesome And you either care about them deeply or you want to see the absolute worst thing possible Happen to them whether or not they actually deserve it in the end Which I think is the best part of the movie my favorite character. Let's just go ahead and get this out of the way Cleopatra Coleman as miss divine that the last time I was this enthralled with a character that that was As far as not wanting to see anything bad happened to them was Kelly Rowland in Freddie versus Jason And I say that I went to a theater To watch Freddie versus Jason when it came out and I was screaming at and me and other people in the audience We're screaming if Kelly Rowland dies we riot and that's how I felt about miss divine in this one In between those two movies. I can't think of another movie where I was literally hollering at the screen There is one scene. I believe it's the first Might be the second it when miss divine goes to check on Peter and Homelander dude is behind her. It was one of the most tense scenes I've ever seen now as far as the movie itself miss divine Absolutely epic everyone else killed it to favorite is miss divine But or Cleopatra Coleman. Sorry. She's now a new favorite actress of mine. I'm gonna be watching everything. She's in but I do want to say this about the story as Soon as it started as soon as the plot kicked into into gear and it started going I knew exactly what was going to happen because of other horror movies that I love watching. It's kind of become a Trope in and of itself to have a twist like at the end of this movie But I think it's a testament to how great the movie actually is that even though I saw what was coming very very early I still enjoyed every single minute of it Now we have to talk about the 800 pound spider in the room I am terrified of spiders. So there might be a little bit of bias here as far as What scared me there is a lot of spider action going on in this and the big bad at the end is absolutely terrified me I have a little bit of not a little bit. I have a quite significant childhood trauma involving dolls and spiders a Friend of mine when I was a little kid locked me in a closet and it was his mothers or grandmothers I can't remember doll closet and it was absolutely Infested with spiders the rest of the house was gnarly too, but that one and I got locked in there for quite some time It had one of those pull cords I reached up found it pulled the light and there were dolls all around me on all three sides and Then spiders started coming out of the the dolls straight out of a horror movie So I hate dolls just baby dolls like mannequins things like that don't really bother me as much It's just the porcelain baby dolls or when they're dressed up dressed up and like Victorian era stuff That has nothing to do with this movie I just want to let you know that maybe I found this movie more terrifying because of my trauma But I've talked to other people and other people seem to agree with me. This is definitely a sleeper hit I had not heard of it until my friends over on discord brought it up and I was like, okay Let me go check this out. Even though it's called cobweb. I was like whoo, but anyways, I got into it I was absolutely enthralled and Some of the scenes especially when they're outside like digging in the backyard Some of those scenes are just so fall heavy. So a tunnel feeling so Halloween feeling There's even pumpkins. I believe they have a pumpkin patch in their backyard all that stuff So this is a perfect movie to watch during this time of the year during spooky season It it really it gave me that sense. I watched it probably two months ago and I've saved my review all the way until now The set design is another Massive success in my opinion the way the house is set up the way everything works the the basement the crawl spaces all that stuff I thought it was absolutely epic and it really brought to mind the people under the stairs You remember that old West Craven joint that it brought that to mind also in fact Homelander dude I know I said his name at the beginning, but I already forgot it the guy who plays Homelander Just I don't he even reminds me of the the daddy in people under the stairs Anyways, it's a fantastic movie. I could sit here for hours literally talking about this I might do a spoiler review at some point in time But there were so many brilliant what I thought were brilliant scenes in this movie that I that puts it leaps and leaps and bounds above the rest of the horror stuff that's out there now Five glowing stars In fact, it's one of those movies where I would be like I would like to give this six stars If I could that kind of thing and the way everything ties around with the bully and all that coming to fruition There is not a Single wasted scene in this movie. It is all about the pacing is all about giving you Information and little bit a little bitty chunks so that it pays off at the end There there's one scene especially that they set up very early on in the movie that comes back to haunt The the characters at the end and as soon as they sat down at the table. I was like, oh my god He didn't and it paid off.  But yeah cobweb 2023 film absolutely amazing movie. If you have not seen it, please go out and check it out. It is entirely Perfect for this time of year, but until next time I have been a you've been you this has been another episode of 31 days of Halloween, I'll see you tomorrow for the next one. Bye. Bye


All right, let's see, we had one other topic, also kind of nutty. Okay, Wesleyan College. Wesleyan College, all women's college, you know, really one of the top universities, certainly for women in the country, in the world, liberal arts college, quite liberal. Anyway, the Wesleyan student government voted this week to abolish all language of being a woman's college. They don't want to be a woman's college anymore. We'll see what kind of college they want to be, but abolish the term woman and to use gender neutral terms like students or alumni instead of women. Also, they want to scrap all women's specific admission criteria and to open in state to all gender non-conforming people. And it's interesting, it turns out that women, even though there is no such category according to them, but women are non-conforming gender people because they're not men. The only conforming gender is male and they should not be allowed in the school.  Anyway, all those other options are banned, should be banned. They voted to open admission to trans men, according to them, there would be men, women who identify as men, it's okay to be at Wesleyan, even though it's a woman's college. So I get why they would want men who identify as women because it's a woman's college and you can include them, but the only ones they don't want in other words are men who identify as men.   You can have a penis, but if you identify a woman, then you're okay, sorry. This is all very confusing to me. So this is a student from Class of 2024, this is all today on Barry Weiss's subject. Wesley was founded as a woman's college because they wanted to create a safe and supportive learning environment for people who are maligned based on gender. Such a place should welcome and support trans women, trans men, and non-binary people as well. Past, present, and future trans and non-binary students at Wellesley should feel like the college has their back, acknowledge their identities and supports their access to Wesley education. Now luckily for Wesley, I guess, this referendum is non-binding and the administration has already rejected it. It turns out there are some feminists and some lesbians indeed who are opposed to this and fight against this, but the administration of Wesley has rejected this and Wesley will continue to be, at least for now, a woman's college even though my guess is the administration would not probably define women if you ask them. Thank you for listening or watching the Iran Brook show. If you'd like to support the show, we make it as easy as possible for you to trade with me. You get value from listening, you get value from watching, show your appreciation. You can do that by going to iranbrookshow.com slash support by going to Patreon, subscribe star, locals, and just making a appropriate contribution on any one of those any one of those channels. Also, if you'd like to see the Iran Book Show grow, please consider sharing our content and of course subscribe, press that little bell button right down there on YouTube so that you get an announcement when we go live. And for those of you who are already subscribers and those of you who are already supporters of the show, thank you. I very much appreciate it.


I've been calling um skipping rope jump rope for some time now it's not fair to our friends around the world because it's not it's not simply called just jump rope it's skipping rope in many other countries yes i'm sort of like you know i'm sort of apologizing to you i guess because it's not fair to um you know yeah sort of sort of like you know yeah dude i really gotta work on my my british australian accent what's up players all joking aside at zandud fitness we promote jumping rope skipping rope whatever you want to call it all over the world so we only thought it fair to give a shout out to our friends over the uk and also in australia also i know other countries call it skipping rope guys i'm just getting started out here so forgive me if your country calls it skipping rope or anything else comment below and let us know because we want to start naming all these workouts all the things that you call it because this is a worldwide thing baby today guys we are going to do a traditional skipping rope workout now skipping rope is just a general term for just calling it jump rope but it is not to be confused with the boxer skip which we have a tutorial on you should check it out it's length like right here or right here right here today we're going to do a little bit longer intervals and just go at a more moderate pace probably 65 to 70 of your max intensity and we're gonna go we're going to go for increments of one minute resting 30 seconds in between each if you guys want our recommended jump rope and the one we use in this video check out cross rope it's linked below the best most verbal ropes that we have found to date so go ahead and get yourself one much love zen dude nation let's get after it today and let's have some fun all right zen dude nation let's get after it today let's have some fun and let's get our endurance on going a little bit longer intervals today and if you can't do the tricks i'm doing that's fine let's do regular bounce it's still going to be just an effective uh just as an effective workout good guys first thing i always say check out the form for those of you who are new to this channel my elbows are in my arms are bent 90 degree angles my forearms and wrists are controlling everything knees are bent slightly and look at my feet they're not coming more than two inches off the ground super super important when jumping rope to help save uh your legs and to prevent injury good guys don't be afraid to throw in some of these tricks as you see me doing here i want you throwing in some of these tricks challenge yourself um and just make it a little bit more interesting now that's the nice thing about this freestyle skip is you can really do whatever you want and that's actually encouraged develop your own flows and dudes and do that's all right guys here we go next up another minute another minute we're just going about 65 70 percent of your max intensity and i want you guys just to be challenging yourself for this minute and like i said today we're working on mostly endurance so when you guys are done this circuit when you're done the four minute increments you're going to rest for a minute and then repeat this circuit an additional three times for a total of four remember guys you don't need to work out from 130 minutes to get a to get an awesome workout you just don't good good and don't worry about mess ups guys i mess up a lot in these videos because i want to show you that no matter how good you get at jumping rope you're always going to have mess ups and that is actually totally fine second last increment of the circuit guys here we go good zendu nation i don't care if you're a beginner or if you're advanced these jump rope all these workouts can be started on and remember brandon i when we first started a lot of people in this community when we first started could not jump rope for that long it just takes additional practice people are always asking us in the community how do i get better at this move or that move and honestly the answer is watch these tutorials and just do it every single day jump rope every single day if you want to get better good guys last one let's make a count okay good guys finish strong finish strong start to turn up the intensity a little bit on this last set here go from 65 to 70 and move it up to 75 80 go a little bit faster and challenge yourself guys that's the name of the game it's not about time it's about intensity ladies and gentlemen the body will only adapt burn fat and lose muscle it force it to by going hard


We demystify what goes on behind the therapy room door. Join us on this voyage of discovery and co-creative conversations. This is The Therapy Show, behind closed doors podcast with Bob Cook and Jackie Jones. Welcome back to the next episode of The Therapy Show behind closed doors where we demystify what happens behind the therapy room door. And I'm really looking forward to this episode because we're going to look at group therapy versus individual therapy. So I'm Jackie Jones and I'm here with Bob Cook who's who's an expert at this. I've never done group therapy Bob so this is this is new to me I'm going to learn something. Okay so so much to talk about with this whole subject but let's make a start on this. So I've been running individual sessions or working clinically with the individuals for 37 years and running groups for 30 years. So I stopped working with groups four or five years ago. I used to run them two or three times a week so I've done a lot of working groups and a lot of work individually so I can talk about the difference between the two of them. I've been in groups I've had group therapy I've just not facilitated it myself. Oh well you'll be able to talk because you've had individual work and group work so you can talk about what you see as the difference of the client. Yeah yeah so that's okay. So I don't quite sure where to start the podcast but I can tell you a little bit about how group therapy works. So again it will it will depend really on people this might have different thoughts to me but I can just tell you how I've done that. I was trained in transaction analysis psychotherapy I was trained in integrative psychotherapy so the major modality of the group was from a TA perspective and basically I would have a group from six to eight people two hours the group would run and it'd be every week so two hours six to eight people every week and they would need to have seen me individually for three to six months at least so I've got a sense of attachment with them. Yeah so we've worked out a contract on what they're going to work on in the group so you see them first to get an attachment going usually at least three to six months or more and then you get a contract for the group therapy and what they want to work for in the group. Usually I said a minimum of three to six months but quite often for a lot longer so usually and it's all time because sometimes people have been in therapy before and they specifically want to come for group therapy but for the sake of this word I keep using usually people come and have individual therapy and then progress if you like into a group. It isn't they go into group and then go to individual therapy they go to individual therapy and then they progress to a group so people who went into my groups would have seen me individually for quite a while before going into a group. Yeah I can understand why why that happens. Yeah one of the things that's really important is that the person going into the group has a secure base with the group facilitator i.e. me in this case. Of course if they haven't got that they may not be able to deal with the you know the fluctuations or the difficulties that may occur in the group they need a secure base with me and also they need to have worked out what they want to do in the group contractually before they go into a group. They have to have worked out individually what they want from the group and they'll only know that through work with me. So would you say what it would be a different thing they contract for the group therapy as they do individual. They wouldn't just have the same sort of issues in individual and then go in a group and not really re-contract or anything. Well let's sort of have a pathway into a group so somebody comes how it usually is people come or someone comes to therapy let's say they come with depression, anxiety and they start individual therapy with me. They contract on working with depression or working with the anxiety whatever it is and then we start working on that and then as we go on we might as we start to heal some of the depression come to a conclusion and they might benefit more or they continue their work or integrate their work if they join a group to cement the process. Yes yeah I can I can see why why it would be a good thing to move from individual into a group with particular things yeah. Yeah so it doesn't work the other way around. No. A group therapy is an excellent format for practicing what you've individually learned. Yeah. Before you go and practice it in real life so you can go and practice some of the new behaviors with a small amount of people who are going to be very supportive with you before you actually integrated in real life or you can see it as a stepping stone. Yeah. Integrating these new behaviors. Yeah so for the therapist do they need extra training to facilitate a group as to individually. Very good question. I think they need to have at least been in group therapy themselves a model then on how group therapy works. Yeah. Because if you not at least had an experience of being in a group then you have no model to work for. Yeah. No that makes sense isn't it. Yeah okay and and sometimes that isn't always the case. I was thinking of two particular very experienced therapists who worked for six seven years individually and I was by synchronicity and they don't know each other and I'm their supervisor. Both of them said they don't live in the United Kingdom that both of them said we are going to start a group up. Now I haven't had any extra extra group training on this except they've probably done a module in their training four years ago and both the say both people from the same institute actually neither of them had any experience of being in a group and as I said in the supervision with them this will probably hold you back even though I can help you with how you want to run this group. So in my opinion if you could get some training somewhere even if there's only some cpd training on running groups it would be useful otherwise I'll help you yeah which is what happened eventually with both of them. Yeah because the dynamics are completely different I would imagine group to individual. Well again it depends on how you plan to run this group. So if you're running a what we call process oriented group and that means that for the two hours you'd be dealing with what comes out of the process. Okay yeah so you can say okay you've got two hours and simply over to you. Yeah and then you would deal with what comes out the process in a pro what is called a process oriented group. Yeah now that would mean you being involved that would mean you being highly participative yourself and you would do the therapy or the teacher of the process process oriented group. Now I think I personally think that takes quite a lot of I think somebody needs a model of that type of training and it would be good if they have some training in that group. There's another style of group which will just called hybrid therapy group or another way of putting this is doing individual therapy in a group. Yes. So I know there's somebody who comes to the group sorry say six people in the group and they would contract for what they want to do or work on in the group and the therapist would be part of that bilateral contract and then they would work individually on that in the group. Yeah so we've got six people usually what happens is that at least two or three people perhaps four would work one week and then other people would work next week if they hadn't worked the week before. So if you're the style of therapist where you're going to work with the individual in the group and you've been an individual psychotherapist yourself that doesn't take that much more training. Yeah I would have to guess that that was the type of group that I was in the hybrid where it was individual therapy within a group if that makes sense yeah. Yeah absolutely and in and in transaction analysis world and I know you come from that most therapy groups tend to be working individually in the group style yeah and I don't think that needs that much particular specialized training because a most trainees have been in that type of group themselves and b they probably got some of that training in the group and c their supervisor can help them with that and for their experience of working clinically individually holds them in great stead. Yeah so it does depend what type of group you're going to run therapeutically I think to answer your question about specialized training yeah but does that is that clear? Yes yeah yeah I didn't realize or group therapy was just group therapy I didn't really realize that there was kind of different ways of doing it. Oh yes there's many different ways there's working within the process like I've just said. See that I've got this fantasy about that I kind of imagined that being like it was in the 70s where people sat round in a room discussing you know subjects and just general sharing of experiences and things like that is that is that what that kind of therapy is group therapy? Yes and no so what you're describing could be called what was called in the 70s and early 80s an encounter group okay where you would go and simply encounter what happened in the group and there'd still be a leader that would help deal with the so-called encounters but there wouldn't be contracts it wouldn't be every week for you know six months you wouldn't have had to be an individual therapy to go in that type of group you'd simply go and encounter the experience. Okay I thought that those types of groups were very unprotective and I wouldn't recommend them. Okay it's kind of like you know those old pictures that you see of like Eric Byrne and all those when you know in the early days of things where they were all sitting round smoking in country chairs just I don't know what happened in those rooms but that's kind of what my fantasy is of early group therapy. Well early early group therapy if you're going to bring Eric Byrne into this I think was partly educative therapy okay he would teach about the parent adult child he would teach about games he would teach about rackets he'd teach about script and he was highly cognitive right there was not much emotional work going on in those early group burn groups you're talking about now if you're talking about early Gestalt groups rather than TA groups where they would look at emotions and they do a lot of re-childing where they look at you know the power of the past effects of present but more from a no emotional point of view there wouldn't be so much educative therapy and it wouldn't be so cognitive. Yeah I think that what we're talking about is how the style of how you would run a group and I think a lot of the TA groups particularly are individual therapy in a group style without dealing with the process and dynamics of what happens in the group. Okay so for example if you had the process group style and it started off with somebody saying you know well actually I feel quite depressed however when I come to this group I often feel even more depressed because I don't feel anybody really listens to me about how hard it is for me and how isolated I feel okay so the group facilitator might say oh can I really hear what you're saying and Jack what do you think about what John's just said oh well I don't really agree with that but sometimes I switch off because I find you quite boring I don't know if that's the depression and then the facilitator said oh and what do you feel back in response to that Jack so it's dealing with what's happening in the group yeah because somebody else might come in then and say I feel pretty angry the way you responded to Jack have you got no empathy and then the facilitator says be processing the group so it's kind of like now that you've you've explained it that's what we did at the end of the weekend's training was kind of group process where we all got together and discussed what had gone on over the weekend or whatever so you processed what was happening in the group yeah oh right so I've experienced that then yeah that's different from a therapy group yes oh I've done both then yeah you go me however I think you need more training to run a process style group than you do individual in a therapy in a group style because you need to be able to handle the what I would call the groups dynamics as well it's much more of I think a more challenging system I can see that yeah yeah now both those styles I think have their merits and disadvantages 34 years of running groups I always had the group of you know working individually with people in a group said they come to individual therapy with me have contracts and take them back into groups it wouldn't be time ended in other words it wouldn't be just for six weeks for six years yeah people usually stayed in groups maybe a year or so they'd work through their contract do the healing they need to do and leave some people might stay three in three or four years people might leave after six months there's no time orientation to it would you would you see people individual and in the group concurrently at the same time well that's a really interesting question I'll answer that and say no okay then I'll go on to say why and then I'll go on to say some of the disadvantages and advantages of both of those so one of the problems about seeing somebody individually and keeping hold of them so they in other words they may have an individual session on the Friday and come to their group position on the Monday one of the advantages of that just knows about the issue that the client has individually and they can work off the back of that and then they can take it into the group and so and there's more group time and more psychological time for the clients one really big disadvantage though is that the people in the group may have fantasies about what the therapist i.e the special person is doing with the client individually because they don't have access to that right so that can encourage what I'm going to call psychological splitting yeah where there's a splitting process going on between what is the person deals with individually which never gets back to what's being held in the group now you could have an open contract so what's being dealt with individually is then shared in the group so that takes away perhaps the secrets part of all this lot but it doesn't take away necessarily the splitting part where people in the group may feel they're not special and this other person is special yeah and I think that would you play out yeah so personally people didn't now the disadvantage against that is is the person who's seen me for individual style and wants to also see me continue their individual work and being in the group may feel abandoned by me if I say you've got to be in a group so we have it's a very delicate set of negotiations yeah which again I suppose goes back to what you started off saying that you need to have been seeing them you know for a minimum of three to six months so that transition isn't an abandonment or seen as an abandonment by you if they did move into a group yes that's correct but but or stroke and they might might not find that transition easily or even though they've decided in to do in the adult for advantageous reasons and might not be able easily to let go of me yeah and want to have individual therapy and have group therapy at the same time yes yes and with certain clients I could see that that is something that they would want to do extra bob during the week yeah so that's too now part of this title of this podcast is you know you put it down as individual versus group therapy and you know this the way I see group therapy as I said is a developmental process on from individual therapy for them to practice their new behaviors in groups however what you might say is when the disadvantage of group therapy is things like people might withdraw in groups they may go underground in groups they might fear people with drawn natures like skits always for example might find groups very difficult they may feel humiliated and ashamed in groups they may recreate their past dysfunctional system in a group we could go on yeah in groups might find it particularly challenging and therefore maybe there's a discussion for individual therapy being the more appropriate method rather than having them ever go in a group yeah so I didn't insist everybody goes in the groups at all if I felt that people would get a lot out of being in groups in terms of vicarious learning mutual learning support etc etc then I may suggest it but for some people I think they might find lots of things in the transfers sharing me all sorts of things I can think about groups might be inappropriate style of therapy or step too far yeah yeah I found it really easy to hide in the group which I suppose at the time was something I saw as a positive I could go and I was learning vicariously I took an awful lot in because being on the receiving end of it I was quite surprised how much I kind of got through osmosis if you will listening to somebody else's therapy session I also got something from that even though it wasn't you know me undergoing it if that makes sense but I did find it easier to hide in the group yeah absolutely and also that may or may not have been good for you but there's other issues which people would find hard in groups and therefore perhaps it's a really good reason why they're never going groups you know shame, humiliation, playing out things I mean I could say it's very important for those very reasons to be in a group however I didn't push people into groups it was more if they decided it wasn't from them it wasn't from them yes yeah because I suppose you know the dynamics of the group need to be considered as well that if there's a new member coming into the group you know how that's going to impact on the group as a whole and then if that member leaves that that's also going to impact on the group so there's a lot of group process going on a lot of the time I would have thought that's right and another advantage for individual therapy many clients might say well we have a whole hour to ourselves we're in groups we might have 20 minutes yeah two weeks or whatever it is but in individual therapy we get a whole hour we get we get all your attention you know so there's some advantage is of individual therapy some people like them groups because of all the things I've taught and also interestingly enough money may come into it because groups are cheaper than individual therapy so people had different reasons to go into group therapy and as I said I might encourage people but if they don't want to go that's their prerogative and their choice because it's a contractual process yeah yeah it's not just like meeting up once a week and chatting and shooting the breeze there's still a contractual process to it there's still yeah yeah and it will be a therapy contract so it'll be far away from what you just said but I know what you meant it wouldn't be at all seen in the line you just said it but it would be very exclusively therapeutic there wouldn't be any past farming allowed yeah depends how you run the group I mean you might want to call well I had people sharing for five minutes good news that they've actually some good news has happened to them during the week so you might want to call that past I actually called it very therapeutic by the way but I think groups can be very challenging for people that may be a good enough reason to do it for some other people it might be exclusively difficult and in some ways it could even be re-traumatising so I think therapists need to think very carefully about who they invite into groups and why they invite people into groups and what the clients get out of it being in groups yeah because I suppose as the therapist there's an awful lot to think about because you know if you're working in a particular area you don't necessarily know whether those people might know each other before they enter the group which could be an issue do you know what I mean there's there's a lot of things to consider I suppose if you're going to run a group this I suggest you have if you've had not been in a group before all stroke and here you have some supervision sessions yeah or you actually start running groups because how you start the group who you're having the group the composition of the group the contracts of the group the pitfalls of groups they are I think they need to be discussed before you start your venturing if you like into the world of being a group therapist yeah because I know some therapists who you know because of the workload and you know I suppose the need to see more clients than having a group potentially you know freeze up some of the therapist's time if you've got six clients in a group and you're working for two hours that means that you can potentially see more people in your week because you're not seeing six people individually which is kind of like a full day's work that's interesting for practical reasons I agree with you many therapists say that I think it's the wrong reason to run a group me too that I was just putting that out there that's the reason why most therapists I know start groups is purely for that reason I'm not saying that that isn't a reason but I think that you need to have a passion and I think for running groups and also I do believe there needs to be some training even if you do it in supervision before you start the group I mean I understand the practical reasons I understand the economic reasons but if you just have those as the reasons in themselves then I think you may lose some passion for group therapy yeah so for if for anybody and the listeners so it's about you know clients that have been in individual therapy for three to six months before you even you know consider them going into groups look at the type of group that you would want to run whether that's a process group or whether that's the hybrid as individual therapy within a group look at accessing extra training yeah or taking it to your supervisor prior to that and discuss with the client why you're suggesting they're going to group yeah and go with the client yeah if they say don't want to be in a group then it's really important you don't force them into a group because you want to start the group off or all the reasons you just said there economically or practically I think the the bit we need to think about here is service of the client and the clinical reasons behind individual group therapy yeah yeah well the monetary or practical reasons behind and I can see that the client does get benefits from it what is there a minimum and a maximum number that you would you know what what what constitutes a group I never went above eight okay that was simply on time reasons okay so would you pass three as a group therapy session well you know what's the lower end of that because I suppose two is like couples therapy well the issues that get talked about endlessly in groups is competitiveness competitiveness over time and money so if you're going to run a group of eight people you I I suggest and this is what I did let's say we're not likely to get through more than three or four a week in terms of having exclusive time with me yeah so the contract will be that you will get priority the following week if you haven't worked the week before yeah number one and secondly an understanding that the vicarious nature of a group probably means that you're actually doing therapy all the time anyway yeah I can see that yeah yeah but I need talking about yes so back to your other question anything past two is a group okay if you talk about couples therapy so duo yeah so you wouldn't really start a group in my opinion with less than five four or five people okay people drop out yeah I mean and really you do need to start if I was suggesting and we started a group I mean I would suggest they start with at least a minimum of six but you're right anybody over two would be designated as a group yeah so that's that's brilliant Bob thank you and you know following on from that conversation of duos or couples um we're going to talk about couples therapy versus individual in the next podcast yes certainly are that's an interesting subject again I could talk forever about but I look forward to that okay doc see you in the next one okay bye bye you've been listening to the therapy show behind closed doors podcast we hope you enjoyed the show don't forget to subscribe and leave us a review we'll be back next week with another episode