What's up today? Nothing could possibly top last week's news. Wait, you did what?  So you're telling me you busted down a whole wall at front gate, and now you're just going to turn it into a front gate exit? So now guests have to exit through the merch store all because you guys knocked down the wrong wall? That's insane. What else is up? Wait, give me a second. I think someone's recording our call. Let's just hang up and get on a different line. What did you guys think of that intro? Come on, we need like a round of applause or something for that. It was cheesy, I liked that. It was great. Audio should be working this time perfectly. Is audio working good? Mr. Excellent's happy to see everybody. Hello, Mr. Excellent.  Oh my god, it's Kaden! Oh, I can't look at you. Remember that causes problems. Yeah, it gives me personal problems. Oh, it gives me personal problems type of problems. The rocks that have blended sit on it. How's everyone's week going? We'll go in order. There's a new person here. Oh yeah, I should address it. Surya is going to be on the next one. Surya had something happen to him. If everyone wants to send him nice positive messages, he'll be on next week's. Okay, we'll start in order. Who's first? How was your week? My week was good. Who are you? Who are you? I'm Jacob, not to get confused with him. My real name is Jacob. My name is not solid. No, no, no. A lot of people would say it if that's the case. You're good. Okay, so I'm Jacob. Obviously, you've probably seen me a couple times on the channel. I'm excited to be here and my week is pretty good. I hear a small echo. Turn your mics away from each other. Hello. They almost fixed the audio. Anyway, my name is Jacob as well, but I go by Jake.  I'm the voice behind all the TikToks. We know who you are. I'm Jake. How was your week, Jake? It was nothing. I did nothing. I made one TikTok. Wow, you were productive. Really productive week. Real productive. We came here on Wednesday, me and you, and we built the whole podcast while Brandon sat there and ate chips and did nothing. Oh, is that what happened? Is that what happened? I recall getting snap receipts of the opposite. That is exactly what happened. Jake can attest to it. He was there. I was in Discord one of them. I believe the real story about what happened was I was sitting on this computer and these two were goofing off and then they started realizing... No, no, no. Not these two. Jake was busy writing on the whiteboard. I was trying to be helpful. Brandon needs to be closer to his mic. Hello. Just inhale it. Hi. Is this working? This is awesome. We need to figure out a different... Can people stop giving Jake ego boosts? Yeah, no more ego boosts for Jake. No more comments, please. To keep him around, we already give him more than enough. We don't need anymore. Please. His ego is pretty high. If you could see what we go through on Amusement Insiders with Jake. Trust me. Actually, just with that whole side behind the camera. Minus keeper. Oh yeah, they were fighting over the middle position. Look, I can tell Jake's getting upset. Okay, so compliment him now. Everybody compliment Jake. Look, he's getting upset. This is what we do with Jake. Jake gets upset, we boost his confidence. Jake, your hair looks amazing today. You smell really nice. Oh my God. I just get a side profile over here. Brendan sounds horrific. Okay, so did the echo fix ever so slightly? There's probably the microphones that were pointing at each other. Who cares about Brendan's echo? Kiefer, how was your week? You know, not bad anyways. My name is Kiefer. For those of you who don't know me, I go by code BLAST on the internet so you can call me either or. Otherwise, my week was good. I was just working 9 to 5 and trying to sleep. And my week's really boring compared to these guys. I just like for exams. We have Jake who made one TikTok all week and you're going to proclaim that your week was more boring. I do nothing on a day-to-day basis. I sit in Discord and wait for everybody to get home from work in school. And then when they're not there, I'm playing Valorant all alone, deranking. It sounds like... Living the dream. Jake is our unemployed friend right now. I got a job. An unemployed friend on a Tuesday type of vibe. He needs the money. Let's try not to fall asleep on the job. How was your week, Craig? You had quite the eventful week. I had a great week. I got my new car, finally. I think it was actually the day after the last podcast. Can I show people your car now? Yeah, but not all the notifications on my phone with it. Okay, here we go. Craig had got his like dream car. Geez, what a beautiful car. Look at it. It is really nice. Race car. Yes, it's quite scary. I've had a test drive in it and... So has Am. Uncle Am went for a test drive, too. He loved it. So, I'm a little confused, I'm going to be honest. So starting today's podcast, I'm really confused about what I saw flying today. I was going to upload the drone footage, but I'm heavily confused as to what I filmed and what I saw today. So I need time to process and I need time to think. And I'm not going to lie. It kind of worries me a little bit what I saw, but it's also really, really, really exciting. We're going to start off talking about what... I want to express in detail what I saw, but you're going to see a little bit of it. Can you hear like the... I'm really confused by what I saw. When I was flying the drone, I literally like messaged people and I was like... We have a good guess on what's going on. We know what's going on, but it confuses the timeline. Yeah. Unless Wonderland is somehow taking away from three parks budgets, I'm really confused by what I saw today. Let me word it that way. So I guess we'll start off. We're going to segue into our main important topic. So what you're going to see me talking about in my videos, all leading up to spring in this podcast today, is called Rapid Growth. You can hear the whole thing. Oh, why did it do that? Let me quickly fix this.  Okay. Beautiful. So in terms of Rapid Growth at Canada's Wonderland, I think I figured out why we're seeing what we're seeing. So you've heard me talk about Wonderland wanting to transition into a theme park and a destination park. There's one more key player into why Wonderland might be aggressively moving so quickly with their expansion phase that I think we've all, or most of us have ignored and it definitely comes down to like a key major sporting event being the factor. But I wanted to, I guess like before we segue into each individual topic under Rapid Growth, I guess does any of you have anything to comment on just the key term Rapid Growth at Wonderland? What are your thoughts? Oh, I can't see us though. I feel like it's pretty unusual for a Cedar Fair park to put a lot of their budget into one park like Wonderland. They usually all get like one traction, at least one, all the parks, but seeing Wonderland get a bunch of renovations and upgrades at once is really surprising in my opinion. Wonderland, yes. They're seeing way, way, way, way, way more visitors after the pandemic. Like, you know, your average weekday in May when they started opening in weekdays in May and June, there's like nobody there. Really nobody every ride would be a walk on, no matter the weather. 30 degrees, super sunny, beautiful day. It's a school day though. Nobody gonna show up.  So like the park needs, needs capacity. So Rapid Growth means capacity. Rides with capacity. Yeah. And the more rides, more capacity, more hourly riders, more happiness. You pretty much touched on everything that I was gonna say. Another pretty good point about it is the fact that if you look anywhere around Wonderland, you can go on Google Maps and confirm this.  Condos, like plaza, shopping center, everywhere. Vaughn is becoming like a whole downtown area. Wonderland's gonna be seeing a huge surge of people very, very soon. Go break the microphone, it's fine. We don't know how to use it anyway. I don't know how to use it. It works really well for my recording videos, but in a live stream, it confuses me. You can see when, if you talk too loud, it picks it up on the Go XLR, and then that's when it echoes. Really? Yeah. Okay. Hi. Okay, you don't have to. My God. So I'm a little confused. I'm not gonna lie, I'm really confused as to why I put this slide in the Rapid Growth category, because this does come up in a whole different section. So the picture you see behind us right now, ignore that, that comes up in a whole category in itself. Brendan, what are you doing? Why? Who set this up? Me. I had two of you bugging me. Yeah, I am. Okay, so someone touched on it. Wonderland has, even if you had north, okay, north of the, what do you call that, the Walmart distribution center that they just built. Yeah, it's all farmland. The farmland that's becoming homes. Less than like three kilometers. Yeah, like homes going up, condos going up, a World Cup coming, Wonderland already breaking record attendance, had a really successful winter fest. They had a really good start to the season two. For any of you that were visiting Wonderland in May on school days, the group sales team did a phenomenal job stacking the park to the point where it felt like a normal spring weekend, actually on some of those weekdays. So it's impressive and Cedar Fair is aware of all this. I agree with him. What? Five pines. It's going to go to Berry soon. All that. All that farmland is going to turn into like development. Yeah. Oh, five pines. She's so awesome. She follows us on Instagram. You would love five pines. She has the same opinions as us. We'll just word it that way. Instagram is amusement insider. Plural amusement insiders go follow it. Amusement insiders on plural, plural, plural. So in terms of rapid growth, some of you, this is the thing. So anyone that goes back to the podcast last year and this, I wish Syria was on today's episode because he would back me up here. Some of you might too. But if you remember for the last three years, I've been telling people to just wait. Just wait. Wonderland was going to start becoming the star child. He can vouch for this. I always said just wait because people are like, no, there's no way. Wonderland would never get the level of investments that you see like Cedar Point and Kings Island and Carolin's. And I said, just wait, just wait with the housing boom going on around Wonderland, the attendance boom that they experienced launching Winterfest and just their summer. It was inevitable that the park would seek different streams for revenue at a park like Wonderland. So Wonderland is really good as a regional park. So there's a lot of room to grow as a kind of destination park. And that would be their next category to kind of transition into. So as a regional park, it's already successful. There's not much else they can do, but they're going to start becoming a destination park. Did you hit the button when I'm ranting? No, I didn't. I added a Brendan rant button and it's it's scary. I'm like getting nervous just looking at it. But I don't know. I'm really excited. And what I saw today on the drone, I was going to do a drone update before the podcast, but I'm like, no, no, no, I want to, I want to hold off on this because I need, I need time to reach out to people and think about it. Are we going to show some pictures? I don't have pictures. I am. You are going to see pictures from today's drone on front gate and mind buster, but not what we're talking about right now. So we'll transition into that. So this is from today. As you can see, there's the new front gate store and you can see giant cutouts in the wall. So they hit the wrong part of the front gate with the wrecking ball. Yeah, they accidentally bulldozed that. They meant to, they meant to do like all the metal detectors and all that. And then the bulldozer just like slipped on the ice and then hit that part. That's actually the Zamboni. So the Zamboni was leaving the park and just went right through. Oh, that's how they're going to do it. He's like, it scans out. But so this is really exciting because for those of you that know a lot about theme parks and bigger parks like Dollywood and Universal Studios, a lot of them, you exit through the gift shop. It's funny. When I started teasing this, I think it was in one of my construction updates. A lot of the comments were like, well, there's going to be a lot of theft. How are the firework nights? This, this and that. Well, Wonderland's not dumb. Okay. I know they've been dumb in the past, but Wonderland actually deserves a lot more credit lately. They've been like, even in terms of guest complaints, I've noticed that if you were complaining online about something, Wonderland's really quick to finish it. Craig's finger is getting close to the ramp button. But so I fully trust that Wonderland has some sort of backup plan like exiting through the entrance on busy nights like fireworks. They're not going to force us all into a little gift shop to streamline out. But what's exciting about that is it, this is further proof that Wonderland is trying to transition and move into, if that is an exit, I think it's inevitable that it's an exit. The proof is right there to giant holes, the same holes and location as the entrance to the front gate building. So they aligned perfectly, sorry, the merch store on the inside of the park. But Craig, I hit a blinker. That's where the hangout stream is. I saw it over here. But it's exciting because it's like parks like Dollywood and Universal Studios Islands of Adventure. So to me, it's showing that, that thing I've been talking about where Wonderland's striving to become that bigger destination park. So I'm really excited to see that. And there's obviously more to talk about in a different video, but I guess on the topic of front gate, Jacob, what are some of your opinions? I think as... You played it! No, but as I think everyone is thinking, front gate looks outdated. You compare it to other sister parks like Kings Island, Kings Dominion, not Kings Dominion, not Kings Island. Carowinds and Cedar Point. Cedar Point, Carowinds, there you go. They have extremely nice, if you see it, if you go there, you're going to be amazed about how cool and modern and how nice they look.  But I think as everyone is thinking, it desperately needs renovations and upgrades as soon as possible. Well, I mean, they did Gatekeeper in 2013. It has been 11 years since they did Gatekeeper. And they did Fury in 2015 with all of Carowinds. So I think we're a little bit behind. Just a tiny bit. I think they really need to improve the flow both in and out of the gate and also if they do have some sort of a forced or optional exit through the gift shop, it'll improve sales and it'll get people to spend more money in the park. Yeah, it would be so great to see the front gate becoming an epic entrance to the park. Do I think they're going to modify the actual structure? No. There are signs of different parts of the building having work done now. So the far right, there's a lot of contractors in that building. But that could be to just install self-serve kiosks instead of the windows that are currently at the front gate there. I can confirm that they're installing Frontier Canada theming at the front gate under Leviathan now, which is interesting. So it looks like they're putting in some Frontier Canada type fencing that we saw on today's drone. Personally, I think that fence is just going to be the new fence because we saw that fence near Shockwave last year as well. So I think that's just going to be the new fence. Yeah, it's a nice... It's a good-looking fence, but I think that's what they're going to do just as all fences. The park has confirmed in interviews that they want to become Canada's wonderland, and that's why you see the water park becoming Canadian theme as well. Front gate would make sense for it to be more Canadian. I really hope, I know all of you enthusiasts in the comment section right now are about to attack me, but get rid of the Leviathan colors on our front gate. It is ugly. It is so ugly. I hate it. Look at it. It looks like a government building. I could rant all day about this. It's absolutely awesome. Like, why can't it have a wood-type theming on it, and look like you're entering Canada instead of it's Leviathan's second entrance or something. That's all I have to say. It doesn't look that great. It was better with the old blue paint it had even before. During the Paramount days? No, like pre- 2016 or whatever. When I first visited. I don't understand. It's so ugly. What does it match? What does it do? It looks like it's triggered right now. They should have repainted while they're at it. Everybody say hi to Michael. Hi Michael. Hi Michael. Oh, it's the Michael. I thought the Michael earlier was Michael. No, he has his whole name. Okay, okay, okay. What do you have to say, Craig? What was that? It was the half of heart. It's for Michael. Yeah, it is. I don't ever get a half of heart. Oh, good. Wow. I see how it is over there. It's being like some sort of boy band. He's upset. Boost his ego, guys. Craig, good to put you on the hot seat. Nice comments. What do you think about a front gate reno? Now that your car friends are here, what do you think about a front gate reno? Oh, it's going to be a great Honestly, you completely made me lose my train of thought. Completely lose it. I know our system's old and even when they changed to having the two security guards out front just to make people go from like with bags or no bags, even now is able to speed it up immensely. Literally anything will fix our front gate. It is horrible. Anything will fix it. It's so true though. They literally, those two boots that made it like 10 times better.  It's going to be perfect. So it's really going to be like, yeah, and I can tell now so I don't know if you realize, but even having the exit of the gift store come out into that front entrance plaza confirms that they don't plan on having a ton of people in there that don't have tickets already or they're going to have to install some sort of like security system there some like those turnstile things and security guards inside that store. So it'll be interesting to see what they do to make that work because that is a little alarming. There's an echo. Yeah, because every time you yell my mic goes on and it catches me. Is this better, guys? You need a Brendan Yell button. So, yeah, I'm really curious to see. Is that better, guys, and then talks the same volume? I can't talk any quieter. Is the echo better? You're just screaming at this point. How am I screaming? That's me talking. Jake, is that screaming? No. This is screaming. Oh, no. Loud talk. You just earraped everywhere. This is the perfect time to set play to Mind Buster. Mind Buster. Let's not confuse this with the debate we're about to have, but this is Mind Buster as of today. Wait, I haven't seen it.  Oh, there we go. There we go. Just read Jake's hoodie. Facts. Jake, what does your hoodie say? It says, block zones are love, block zones are life. What's a block zone? For those of you who are unfamiliar, a block zone is a section of ride to occupy. At the end of a block zone is a method to stop a train in case the block zone ahead is still occupied. This is the safety system that prevents roller coaster trains from colliding with one another. That's how you know he's single. I don't think you're allowed to talk. Yes, we are big El Toro Ryan fans over here. Huge. If you could hear our Discord server, maybe sometimes it's just Jake quoting El Toro Ryan videos. I have a button on my soundboard that just plays that clip. You should see the picture that's on his soundboard. 99% of the time. That guy's videos, not only does he have a full-time like career career job and a family and everything has the ability to put that much effort into his videos is insane. And here I am struggling to make like a podcast. The difference is he knows what he's doing. That's true. I'll give Craig of that. I didn't mean it offensively. I'll talk to Craig after. Can we play this button? I'm going to make another button. But what do you guys think about Mindbusters Retrack? We won't start the debate, but what do you think about the current Retrack status of the photo you see in front of you? Me? And the section. Jacob, you didn't get to give your opinion last week. I didn't. I think I'm super excited to witness this Retrack. Since that part was always the worst part of Mindbusters. It was the most spine-crushing part of Mindbusters. And even with that part, Mindbuster was the top 5 ride for most of us in the group, I think. Because we were always riding with friends. There's like the top 3 and then there's a severe drop off. From Wonderland it's good. I think with this new Retracking on the double down, I think it could be contentious with the top 3 on a good day. Can we have them removed? It's a good ride with friends and at night. Jake, what do you think? Mindbuster, Mindbuster, Mindbuster. I rode the Beast at Kings Island this year. That's not a similar ride. I rode the Beast at Kings Island this year and it was a phenomenal night ride. I've heard people say this ride is the roughest ride at Kings Island. Exactly in that voice as well. I go to Wonderland and I ride this. There should be no comparison. It should be at minimum how the Beast is at Kings Island. In Kings Island I rode it in a wheel seat. Mindbuster, I say you have to ride in a non-wheel seat. If you're riding in a wheel seat, it's almost unrideable like Kregas said, but the Beast at Kings Island I rode in the front row of a car and it was smooth. It was comparable to Behemoth. That's not smooth. It's smoother than this. I don't think it's easy to compare Mindbuster with how long is the prime ride time of Mindbuster. The Beast at Kings Island in terms of roughness is compared to Behemoth. That's the first two thirds. It's really good. I think it's absolutely needed. I had a similar experience to Jake when I went to Spain to Portaventura. Everyone... He's flexing their trips here. Anyone that I talked to about Stampede there and it wasn't even freshly retracted it was miles, like miles better than the wooden coasters I've been on. In the world? Only other ones are here and in the States. What's your opinion, Brendan and Krega? Am I the only one that enjoyed the roughness of Mindbuster? Yes! To an extent, yes, but that part was bad. I always liked hogging the middle seat. I would force myself into the middle seat and my friends into the front and back and I would sit there and laugh at them while they're in pain going through this specific section.  And we're like, oh! And then you get on the brake run and I'd instantly be like that little kid in church looking back at you like... How was that? Oh, you didn't like it. I'm sorry. But honestly, like... So Mindbuster's really up in the air. I've heard from two different people some things about Mindbuster. I've heard that the plan is to retract the whole ride and that this is a process and the drop is next. I've heard that this is just a simple wood-re-track and I've heard that there is the possibility that it could be tightened track. Now, the only reason, I guess, is to segue into our debate. Wait, did Krega give his opinion? No. You just left out Krega. It's the worst part of the ride. It needs to be changed. But yeah, I don't see any strong evidence of a tightened track-ing going on on Mindbuster yet. There's a specific kind of like material you're going to want to look for a specific tie section. I'm going to be honest. Today, I thought I saw it. When I flew, I thought I saw the metal plating. But it's not there. But I will also say they've been waiting. So three days now has gone by and there's been no continued work on Mindbuster which could mean that they're also waiting for something to arrive, like tightened track to install. Because wood should be something simple to ship in and get and it should have been a part of it. But if they're waiting on something to arrive, it could be the tightened track. But I think that is a wild guess that it's tightened track.  Please. If you see any, just let us know. I'm in that mindset lately where every time I see a flatbed truck with some weird metal on it, I instantly think it's our next coaster.  So I got to edit that. Where it edits out our logo now. So the transition is just the volcano part. I think that's the best thing. The debate would have been ten times better with Surya. That's the whole point of this debate. We'll be good. So now, I want to start a discussion on why it shouldn't be tightened track and maybe why it shouldn't be tightened track. Or why you think it's going to be tightened track or why you don't think it's going to be tightened track. I don't think it's going to be tightened track. It's too expensive. They don't need or have that much money to spend all year. They're doing so much other work as it is and to retract the entirety of it for this season. You say that, but now after what I saw today, I'm like, is our budget like this crazy? Whatever they were doing is still going to cost a lot of money. And it's not going to be enough to throw in mindbusters or retract the entirety of mindbusters. They wouldn't do the entirety of it in one season. Tighten tracking happens over periods. Yeah. I feel like they would do it all at one season because that would be a lot easier because all they have to do is take it all, all the track off, put the things on and then put the track on. It's not that simple. Then they have to do new trains, new PLC. Well, yes, but there is two when they retract. There would definitely be... Are you going to tighten track the lift hill? The lift hill does need it. For tighten track, they put it at the most intense part of the ride. So like the valleys between the hills. The drops, yeah. Was it better before though? Didn't they have a different for the water park? Yeah, you used to have a huge camel back. I had it lower so you weren't echoing. Yeah. You're weird. Are we going to debate? I do think, okay, so from what I've heard, the possibility of tighten track is pretty low. I just have this weird gut feeling, this weird gut feeling that it's going to end up being tighten track. And the more I see, what I saw today, it both increases the chances... I've got to go. Oh, okay. It both increases the chance of tighten track, but also decreases the chance of tighten track. The budget that Wonderland is accumulating for 2024 and 2025 is insane. We saw things happening in World Expo today where like, I thought that was further down the line. And if they're already doing it, that makes me think it brings me back to the FIFA World Cup. They're rushing World Cup World Expo. So I have a feeling the park saw an opportunity to have the World Expo area at least a little more refurbished and refined for... Not the people watching saying hit the Brendan rant button. Now I'm going to be so self-conscious. It's not a rant, it's an explanation, guys. Relax. But... What was I saying now? Look what you did. I need a fan on me. The World Expo. I think there's a chance that the park might have saw this opportunity to have World Expo a little more refined and ready. For those of you that noticed, they were building a soccer game next to the... Brendan's voice sounds off now. Did you mute the wrong one? His mic is echoing now. Oh, dude, I think it's echoing off the ceiling. It wouldn't echo off the ceiling. It's fine. Oh, okay. But, yeah, I think I really have to be close to my mic, so I apologize. But, yeah, I think that the park sees an opportunity for World Expo, and I think that makes sense. There's that soccer game that's being installed right next to the arcade in World Expo. So I thought that was interesting. It's a soccer game. It's been being built for the last 38 months. It has. There's been that since there forever. Bonnie was pregnant for like nine seasons. You need sound panels. Is that an actual thing? Because I could get those. I was actually debating. I was going to order them. Oh, Jake's upset. Why? Key switches knows his things. I know more. I disagree. I don't believe that. He's smart. Honestly, if any of you know sound in the comment section, would sound panels help? Honestly, what we need to do is set up all the mics so that we have to talk to them eating the microphones. Okay, yeah, we'll do that after. Professional studios use them. We're talking about sound. We would all have to be in separate rooms. That's the best scenario. Yes, they help. I trust Zachary too. Alright, let's continue. Mindbuster. Oh, me. Someone commented. What? Mindbuster, yes.  Sorry, all of you enthusiasts in the comments. Not going to be an RMC. As much as I want it to be an RMC, GCI does very, very good work. I've been on Mystic Timbers and Invader, which are both better than Leviathan. Yeah, GCI is phenomenal. The only thing I'm thinking here, because they're taking all seven layers off of the wood, normally when they retract rides at Wonderland, they take off just the top two layers or top three layers, and then replace those and not the rest. Can we help you over here? Can we help you over here? They replace the top two layers and not the rest of it, but I find it weird that they're taking off all the layers, so it could be something like What's the other ride? No, no, the one I went on at Kings Dominion. Grizzly. It could be like Grizzly where they retract it and make it all fresh wood, which I do see happening. But it could also be GCI Titan track, but I hope it's done by GCI. That's all I got to say. I think Jake just stole our points, but I think everyone is going to want to see an RMC, but that's not going to happen. I personally think it's going to be just regular track, just regular... Is it in-house, would Wonderland do in-house wood? So I will say to back up the Titan track theory, it's been a mixture of Wonderland workers and what looks like contractors. Again, I can only tell so much from a drone so far away, right? Yeah. But I think it's going to be regular track. We're just going to see what happened to Wild Beast after the fan curve, that new nice track, which is going to be pretty nice. He literally didn't answer your question at all. No, no, no, no. I want to interrupt here.  Jacob looks so scared right now. I don't beat my people on the channel just so everyone knows. I do. The fan curve on Wild Beast doesn't feel any smoother. I recall almost dying this year. No, after it. No, no, no. After it is a nice section. It's what I think new wood feels like. I've only been on older wooden coasters, but it felt pretty nice. It felt smooth. Jake, swipe the mic and remind everybody the like. Guys, don't forget to hit the like button down below. We are currently at a solid 24 likes. Let's make it up to 50. And if you make that subscribe button turn gray, that would really make my day. So hit the subscribe button down below. Make sure to turn on post notifications so you don't miss any podcasts or construction. Okay, that's too much. It's never enough. Who's next? Keeper. RMC definitely out of the question for a full new ride. Would they do work on it? Possibly. With the 208 track or like basically their version of the Titan track or topper track that they used to do. They could end up doing work on it like that, but I think if it was an external company that was doing it, it'd be GCIs Titan track that would be more likely. Just the way the woods prepared, Titan track only uses the steel bracing or cross braces between the rails and the wooden ledgers where RMC replaces pretty much the entire thing. In terms of the Titan track, I think it's personally a very weird experience having been on a ride that has it because it was Wolverine Wildcat. Again, me flexing my chips. Predator also have Titan track. Predator does. I haven't ridden it with it. Michigan's Adventure. So with that ride, it's straight off the first drop is Titan track and then it goes to new freshly retract wood and then it goes to the original wood on the ride, which is a really weird experience.  That's what I figured it would be. How can you do it in sections that doesn't make any sense? It's a lot easier than you think, especially when it's the roughest section of the ride. I know you can do it. It's just weird. Why would you have one section be so glassy smooth and the rest just be horrible? Now, what would be weird is the it would be like glassy smooth into like the car crash. It just wouldn't make any sense. That's an area that should have it. In terms of what Craig is saying, it reminds me of like putting in a wood floor in like your house. You know what I mean? It'd be really hard. I feel like it'd be really hard to take off a square and then put the wood back into the floor. I'm just looking at Brendan's floor here. It's wood. Thanks for exposing my floor. It is called hardwood. Hardwood. Like, you know how the panels like clip together. I feel like it would be hard to do that, but I'm not, I'm not a contractor yet. Craig has sworn as you may have heard I have just sworn and broke Brendan broke I, Craig, have promised I will never swear on the Amused Insiders podcast again. Whoops. My God, it's a seven. And we're good. Yeah, Craig is not allowed to swear anymore. So every time he swears, I'm going to get him to like I'm going to start writing it on the board. I will not swear. I will not swear. That's my welcome to Wonderland board. You guys like it? I wrote it just for you guys. It does. It's happy. He cares about you guys. I don't know. I'm not the smiley face. I'm not the smiley face. We got to get used to this. Jake's going to start getting us to start writing sentences too. I will look at my mic and talk into my mic. That's how they work. It's going to look like Bart Simpson on the board. Okay. Did everyone talk about Mindbusters?  We can tell you wrote it. Oh, the wallpaper. I'm so glad someone asked. Thank you. The wallpaper is currently in Tennessee. Which is better than where it was a couple days ago. So can I tell a story? This is actually a funny story. So I ordered my wallpaper from an all Canadian company. The Canadian company said that they were all Canadian. So I ordered it and they messed up. It was a whole month thing. It ended up actually being partially my fault. I didn't respond to an email I was supposed to respond to. So then they were nice enough to actually just express ship it. And with express shipping, I get live updates. Literally every minute it moves, I get an update. So I get an update that it's in India. So I'm like, well, this all Canadian company I ordered my wallpaper from isn't actually all Canadian. My wallpaper was made in India. So it was in India for about a week or three days. As of today, it was in Tennessee, which is a good sign. It should be here Monday according to these live updates. Should be. Monday, Monday, Monday. So yeah, as of next week's podcast, when Syria is hopefully here too, we'll have our nice beautiful blueprint hint blueprint. It's not going to be beautiful. Do you know how much of a struggle it's going to be? I think we're going to film it. It's got to be filmed. No, not a time lapse. A full thing. It's going to be like four hours.  Does anyone have anything else to say about mine? I have a question for you. For me? Okay.  Or did they just do the top two layers of wood? Just the top two layers.  About two weeks after they re-tracked it. You can definitely feel the difference though, like a major difference. If that's good, the full seven layer re-track I feel like it's good. New trains? No. The only thing I see if they're going to get new trains is if they tighten track the whole ride. Yeah, whatever they do. If they do new trains and then I also think it's going to get a new PLC, new control system, everything's going to be new. If they do tighten track on the whole ride. Well they would have to if they got new trains. If they did new trains as well. New brakes, whatever. They cannot change the helix. The car accident helix needs to stay. That's the best part. They need to tighten track it. They should theme it to a car accident. They need to change the one section where you hit a wall. That's perfect. I actually like it.   And you know you're about to hit that wall. It's great. The person next to you squishes you. The Brendan next to you squishes you. So long. I'm the nicest person to sit next to on my bus. Because you know what I do when I'm right here. I reach over to my side. And I brace. Except for that one time he smacked me in the tunnel.  And I just start doing that. See it doesn't sound like it. The bracing himself is already a lie. Someone clip that. I'm doing that. It is loud. It's so loud. Louder than a concert. That's what makes Mindbuster amazing though. I love getting back to the break run. And the train just stops. Well hopefully stops. Because sometimes it feels like it barely stops. And we just go through the wheel spinning. And the wheels are still spinning. And every guest on the train is literally like in a good way. Out of breath. Everybody's loving it.  Everybody's laughing in the break run on Mindbuster. You cannot lie. You have the occasional old person that is about to get rushed to the hospital. Otherwise everybody's genuinely laughing. So you have choices. Uncle Am. Did you hear what he just said? He said Uncle Am. Leave Uncle Am out of this. Where is Uncle Am? I haven't seen him type in a while. He's probably gaming and watching. Oh yeah he plays Starfield? Starfield. Wild Beast is dead to me. I agree with him. I agree with him. Wild Beast is dead to me. I don't know why I'm nodding yet. I love Wild Beast. Wild Beast is only good in the front and with someone else. If it's anywhere else it's painful and it's uncomfortable and it needs to get roomy. Row 13 on the left side. The hill after the turn around. Pure bliss. I think it's the strongest moment of airtime in the park. Wild Beast is a thousand times better than Mindbuster. In my opinion. Can we kick him out? Could I segue to what everyone is waiting for? I didn't include some of what I saw today. Sure. The next topic can be saved for any point. We have Disney and Universal versus Universal as a debate on here. I've never personally been to either so I'm already useless. We should do a little bit. So. I shouldn't. People would have said something. Alright. So 2025 versus 2026 is the title of this subject. Before I go on a rant where everyone's going to make fun of me for ranting, does anyone have Can I help you? What do you? I have energy drink burp coming out of my. I'm trying to do it quietly so the mic doesn't gross everyone up. Guys, do it in the mic so everyone can clip it. No. I was in the process. So. Do any of you have anything you would like to say about your thoughts on are we going to get a coaster for 2025 or 2026? Can I start guys? Thank you. I think we were discussing this in VC. Wow. Do you see this guy? We were discussing this in VC a couple of times, but I still personally think it's going to be 2025. Yeah, I know UConn started UConn opened way later than it was supposed to but I think Wonderland is going to be consistent this time. It's going to be good and it's going to open 2025 as everyone's expectations and get ready for the World Cup. Alright, this is my theory 2026 as much as nobody likes it. UConn Stryker, I said this last time but UConn Stryker when they dug the tunnel, they did it this winter technically if you were thinking of it we're going to open two years from now, like 2025. They dug the tunnel, put the track in, put the tunnel over top opened up, Vortex was fine they haven't done any of that yet they haven't taken apart the mountain put the track in, put the mountain back together if they haven't done that they're not going to do it during the season because they're not going to have a half open rip mountain in the middle of the season as much as we'd love to see that Well, you don't know what's going on in the mountain We don't know what's going inside unless they're fabricating the track inside of the mountain which would be awesome We saw those columns during UConn I think they're being used right now But unless they they take apart the whole mountain right now in the next 3 months 3-4 months, I don't see it happening for 2025 as much as I want it to open Not possible Yeah, so Wait, how good I am Well, that's my point I made at this point We all made this point and we made this same point when we made the nodes Don't pretend like it's your point We stole all of our points There's a couple of things The exit point The estimated exit point because the only exit point on this ride complicates things greatly To be honest I'm really confused why Cedar Fair is even going forward with this It is really hard to execute Really hard to execute Like We're talking I don't know how they're going to build this Because you have to think about it The mountain I'm going to expose a few things right now that maybe I shouldn't and this comes from myself just one being inside the mountain and two from little birdies in the industry But the mountain is not in good shape It is not in good shape It has significant problems with its structure significant problems with backflow of water It has significant problems with overcrowding in certain sections of rides and the only way the only current location that this ride could exit out of that when interfere with the major look of the mountain is where I put point of exit where the two lines meet on top of the mountain and that in itself is a really difficult spot for it to come out just in between vortex and thunder runs helix So I'm really confused The only other thing that counters that is I can confirm work has gone on inside the mountain and is going on inside the mountain So in Les Wonderland has the plan to do just the little sections inside the mountain and not expose the mountain until next off season and then they'll rip it apart and they'll do the other sections while they do the rest of the ride I could see that but the other thing is that in itself I think people forget a lot of people say the mountain is in really rough shape I think Craig brought this point up when we were planning this episode and then I brought up the key point that that mountain has actually held together so much better than you realize Yeah, it's literally paper mashing No, it's not How do you make paper mashing? You get a piece of paper, you wet it It's a similar process but that mountain has held together how long? 1981 to now Barely I'm telling you Brendan when it rains it looks like a Gothic cathedral but because you were it's expensive to do I don't doubt it but it's not I don't know But Love you Michael It's really interesting because time wise we should start seeing construction soon like it needs to happen I've seen no signs of the What's the theater called again there? International Showplace That's the name of that theater? We've seen no signs with the arcade except for today so the signs we saw of the arcade today don't suggest it's going to be bulldozed unless they're disconnecting everything on top I'm revealing things too much now but essentially like the arcade was showing signs of either it's going to get a renovation or it's about to get bulldozed Something's about to happen Something's about to happen to the major arcade Well I mean I'm not going to say rest of it now but the other building looks more so ready than the arcade did The restaurant? They were pumping the water All the buildings got snow They got the water pumped out They're actively pumping it off You'll see it in the clip It's either a vacuum or some sort of pump in one of the two It's really interesting actually What we saw on the drone today essentially is like every building So it's funny actually I'll talk about it You can hit the ramp button for a second So for those of you that keep up with my construction updates Thank you very much You noticed in my video a week ago there were contractors working on the basketball game that had survey markings on it at the beginning of this year if you remember near Behemoth Those same contractors were then looking at the ring toss game over by flight deck and they were measuring it and working inside there We then have contractors inside Backlot Cafe Well today we had contractors on top of the arcade building in World Expo doing a lot of measuring It looked like they were figuring out what to do with a lot of the water build up and ice build up on top of the roof too because then we saw coasters, the restaurant and they were draining the water that had flooded the top of the roof and they were measuring the outer perimeter of the roof So it's really interesting because for those of you that remember at the beginning of the season we were tracking a lot of these survey markings that were popping up all over action zone World Expo, but action zone and with FIFA World Cup coming again, repeating myself I can totally see Wonderland wanting World Expo to be more of a a refined area for that event It's also a huge part of Wonderland's history Backlot Cafe No more They want it Don't you worry Backlot Cafe has a great variety of food It has a great variety of food and the international visitors that would be coming from other countries around the world that would be coming for the FIFA World Cup would absolutely love this because as you go the coaster hypothetically, not 100% confer but hypothetically, if the entrance were over there then it would bring people past Backlot Cafe and that's a I think for Backlot kind of saying what Jake said if they know what matches are going to be played in Toronto they could theme the food at Backlot Cafe you have Canada, Mexico and America and I don't know the Italian if you could theme it to the countries that are playing in Toronto and because more people from that country are going to be going to Toronto to see their big country being played and if they see food from their home they're going to want to eat there or they could even have a festival like Celebration Canada during the time that they're here for all the countries there's going to be a couple of games in Toronto and they could theme the yeah we looked at how many games is it four two to four how many games is it totaled it's like six weeks yeah it's 102 or 104 games we'll find out every fourth what games are it's across all three countries in North America Mexico, America and Canada America yeah so Fort Sarazur TFC anyone else come on no actually I do think the food festival thing is a good idea what are we talking about I'm so confused the park in the face FIFO FIFO Brendan said FIFO early and Craig hasn't been has been making fun of him since FIFO but no like the whole area there needs to a huge facelift does not look like a what FIFO you keep for your guys what did I say no the whole area in world expo and action zone needs the whole facelift it needs to stop looking like a county fair in America but we wish it looked like a county fair yeah those are nice nice and then did you just say action zone looks like that action zone yeah exactly it's like a mix of midlife crisis just copy and paste everywhere but I'd be interested to see what they would do would they incorporate the new ride into that area like the entrance of that new ride just have it kind of go all over the place wherever the entrance is that's what it's going to be themed to obviously and if they're doing a lot of surveying there and facelifts and stuff there that would probably be the main area where the ride station will be it's in az action zone because not a lot of people go there if you see like during hawn it's very empty and med fair is always busy because they have a viathan the best ride obviously better than ucon behemoth but if they had another big ride there like because they only have flight deck no one wants to ride flight deck obviously you good there's something wrong with them someone boosts his ego I think they need a coaster there to boost popularity and spread people out there but also because it's so close to the front of the park it would make a huge bottleneck as well if they put the entrance really close there so be hard to tell I hope if they put the entrance of this coaster they make a nice big plaza like leviathan because I think they kind of messed up with ucon the path is really tiny over there and it's really squished in especially when the queue starts to spill out a little bit more room it's a real bottleneck brennan has a great video on it from hawn there's a huge by mindbuster especially because it merges I hope hopefully they build it with a nice big plaza I want that too even like behemoth if you ever see opening day in ucon it was all the way down a flight deck well that's opening day for anything so that's fair but if it's happening during hawn I can't even imagine what's going to happen during the work up several occasions this year too the entrance to ucon it's like oh where's the end of the line I can't even see anymore it's way over there it's next to the tunnel brennan well there are only two buildings that our station could really go that would work for this launched wind coaster so if it's a launched wind coaster it would have to take up either international show place or the arcade I don't see what else it could go and I would love the new coaster to actually be housed in world expo but I think it's going to be its own little area in international show place oh like you go down there and then that's the whole ride plaza they have like separate rides there like separate shops and food that's themed to the ride they'll be able to do a lot more down there that's what they're going to do even though I would love it to be a part of world expo because it could totally work with some sort of like ruins jungle theme and some sort of culture hopefully that's not offensive I never know in this day and age anymore I have a question yes someone put the yes that's how many English teachers says yes but if it's 2026 is there any possibility of anything getting removed ride based I think there are a lot of ride removals coming but if it's 2025 and they've been starting for the coaster if it's going to be in grand world expo is there any chance that anything ride based could get removed yeah it's happening before our eyes extreme skyfire important I would argue extreme skyfire is an important part of wonderlands no one goes there no one rides that it's our skyline attraction it's what we would call it but yeah I know flight deck and time warp I know what you're trying to get at flight deck and time warp aren't going to get removed for this coaster now what scares me is if there's a change of plans because again what we saw today I really wanted to do a construction update before talking about it on the podcast but hey there's only 102 of you right now so I guess that's good that means people will still watch a construction update if I post one tomorrow morning what we're seeing basically is world expo out of nowhere okay is seeing contractors littered all over it and they're measuring the games they're measuring the buildings they're measuring like the restaurants that's a lot of money like at the end of the day if what's about to happen is going to happen and they're about to retrofit again keyword retrofit I don't think they're going to do like it's not going to be like millions and millions and millions of dollars they're going to bulldoze Backlot Cafe and put it up they can retrofit buildings with theming essentially so I personally would love Ginza Gardens to come back Jinseng Gardens I don't know how do you pronounce it who did it right say you're oh Ginza like Ginza Sushi what? you haven't seen the picture someone show him the picture the original Backlot? oh yeah beautiful it looks like it was somewhere completely different it looks like Epcot so if they're about to do that fingers crossed again I'll be shocked because so again this was a part of the discussion that we missed so Cedar fairs made their announcements for 2024 right? yes they've made so far Wonderland's been a part of that where they'll announce something randomly in January and February which we will do I have my meeting with Wonderland soon it's been planned now but Carolins for example is a top tier Cedar Fair Park and they've announced nothing for 2024 so far and then you look over at Canada's Wonderland and you know we got our front gate rena we got all these upgrades going around the park you have Backlot Cafe at minimum I won't even include coasters in this rumor so far but you have Backlot Cafe receiving some sort of upgrade and then you have Moosehorn Falls Minebuster upgrades and then we know come spring Wonderland's going to start its prep on making the park more beautiful the trend that the park had already talked about so you have all that taking place at a flagship park like Canada's Wonderland these other parks like Carolins are receiving not even a flat ride that confuses me but that's kind of how Wonderland has been treated in the past where Cedar Fair and Paramount let Wonderland go years and years where they would just plug and play some sort of ride not upgrade the infrastructure at the park or around the area and then now the parks hit an all time low where attendance numbers are increasing the city is developing around Wonderland and you have a major sporting event coming up in a couple years and suddenly you don't have the infrastructure the paths the ability to get guests into the park even I'm half expecting tolls to get ripped up very shortly but I'm surprised I haven't seen that yet that's pretty outdated too very outdated I'm really shocked that we're not getting the Kings Island version of it I was really expecting that for 2024 so I'm really shocked that if I don't see tolls get upgraded I'm really shocked that Cedar Fair decided to upgrade back up before doing tolls because how I would look at it is right now if you even go on Google reviews it's funny we were going to do a segment today but I didn't get time to do it a lot of the complaints are it takes forever to get into the park so you would think that what are they doing we won't get into that we're not seeing the upgrades take place but I say that and suddenly we're seeing upgrades all over the park so when you look at Cedar Fair's typical investments that they do into their their big top five parks nowhere do we see such investments taking place so again you have a big coaster coming in 2025 hopefully fingers crossed I haven't seen any significant signs that's not taking place yet but you have that and all these little upgrades going on that's a really big bill no matter how you look at it Wonderland is eating up Cedar Fair's budget in an exponential way while some of these other bigger parks aren't seeing a dime tossed at them I had it listed out let me open up my notes for a second so Wonderland since Covid so we're going to start looking at this this was my seven part series you're getting it laid out in the podcast Snoopy's Racing Railway and Tundra Twister were added in the same year that's very unusual for a really nice family coaster and a major flat ride to be added in the same year you had Lazy Bear Lodge which essentially and now a Backlot renovation cannibalized the other restaurants needed in the park so it's funny because Lazy Bear Lodge it was so well designed and so well built it's able to manage the crowds in the park to the point where you don't necessarily need that many major renovations elsewhere but they're still going to do it so you're going to see Backlot Cafe and then you might see coasters you don't really need much outside of that you have infrastructure upgrades like the bus terminal on property Hartwell on site for five plus years now and more more than ever they're more present now too you have Frontier Canada's big expansion coming we're not ruling that out because there's been guest surveys and surveying taking place in the area in the 2021 season and 2022 season and the park even recently mentioned it as of this year 2023 in a TPM bids that they weren't done with Frontier Canada again you have the investment budget Carowinds versus Wonderland and then you have the FIFA World Cup coming so the park can sponsor the event do ads and have a clickbait ride to draw in the crowds um so yeah that's what I have listed under Rabbit Growth and that's essentially yeah you guys might want to stop Honestly Todd I don't understand are you guys five um but essentially like that's big like when you look at that in such a short period of time that's like a lot of growth and a lot of investments again Wonderland is that park that gets everything every year where you don't see that at all those big parks even so what do you guys have to say about all that I've always been first I was a lot to process but you weren't listening that's what you wanted to say you weren't listening that's also true yeah I don't know putting me on the spot no but Wonderland is getting a lot and it's definitely in my opinion surprising because I've always been used to every year we're getting one thing one thing and now all of a sudden we're getting a bunch of things but now including the factors that is like showing up a World Cup urbanization around Wonderland it's definitely like makes sense that Wonderland needs to do this and I don't know Jake Kiefer they do definitely need the infrastructure upgrades too and it's it is great that we're getting these rides but I think we need to have Wonderland do a lot more infrastructure a lot more flow a lot more proper areas instead of plopping a ride down and only doing that specific area there has there should be more going on pretty much around the parks you have a lot of big bottlenecks and like bridges and stuff that were put there when the park opened that needs to be got around as well to bounce off Kiefer's point I recently visited Kings Island last summer and I realized how their international street is designed compared to ours here at Wonderland and I am proposing the fix alright so you know all like the cement barriers with the trees and the bushes bulldoze it make a path problem solved especially after especially after a fireworks day tree letting for way too fast especially that's that's my proposal as much as I would hate that something that Wonderland needs to do unfortunately and they would I feel like they should also yeah they should put like the trees and stuff they can just like push them more to the side towards the they can plant more on like where the fountain is and because Kings Dominion I don't think has them from I went there early 2021 so it was a long time ago but Kings Dominion was Kings Dominion also seems one third of the attendance that Wonderland sees no but overall the overall like vibe of it was much more different than Wonderland like much more different than I expected like I thought it was going to be like a one for one like it's very similar but not ideal like not exactly personally for me I liked it more than ours what Kings Dominion Kings Dominion the fashion for me is nicer international street I should oh my god I cannot have an opinion I've never seen it so I can't comment it's ugly I think it's nice when I went it was nice oh they did have the one of the festivals going on so maybe that's why I liked it more the Eiffel tower is ugly the stage they had set up in front of the Eiffel tower and thing was ugly I hated it our mountain is ugly do you see that I need security we need a lot more than that I'll admit it needs some work done but it ain't ugly our mountain yeah the mountains not ugly I think the mountains the Disney castles are uglier than the mountain freaking hideous if you see it it looks like it's depressed then you can go to Kings Dominion they have an arm seat in the rain it looks depressed we get a lot of rain here during Winter Festival after it's been snowing not like we had too much of it this year but it does look really nice in the snow it looks fantastic they need to add big snow add bad snow to the peaks like real mountains just get an office chair Jake? No what's your opinion, Krega? on what? so you weren't listening the whole investments in everything nice, good job says I wasn't listening you weren't but I know I wasn't listening either you could be 100% full honestly oh man I'm trying to think if there's a let's go back to this hopefully this is the right sign yes, okay so that's essentially all the topics on the podcast for today so before we go into the hangout stream I guess you guys can ask us questions ask away and we'll answer them Jeopardy no that's what they type faster we're gonna have to assign questions who wants to answer the first question Jake, you seem to know a lot about Wonderland let's just address it in person yeah, unless you address it to somebody Jake's gonna keep it because I'm on the right side and I'm always right you're not right about the opinion I'm on the left side for the viewers though do you want to come help? no, no I don't want to take the camera exactly they will remove Skyflyer that is confirmed by amusement insiders that's how I'll word that that's how I'll word that that's a bold statement for me to make by the way birdies all trucks are spinning sometimes when I say that it's to protect me legally why is there a hole in the wall there Brendan why is there a hole in the wall that's gonna be an exit to the park exit through the gift shop and then also the capacity they can also open up the original exit if it ever becomes a fireworks night and 50,000 people are all leaving within an hour or even half an hour they can open up more of the original exit in addition to the gift shop if necessary why is med getting no love? why are you answering all the questions? medfare is essentially it's finished should they rename the park Six Flags Canada's Wonderland or Six Flags Vaughn from what we were told by a park official that's very trustworthy during winter Fest's media day is that there will be no changes Six Flags wise to our park including uniforms named to the park branding zero changes I also just want to reiterate that Six Flags and Cedar Fair are not a combined company yet and it doesn't look like that's gonna happen anytime soon there's some issues happening but that's a topic for another video yeah like medfare is gone at the end of the day there's nothing to expand speed say yeah that's game fully themed area in the park I think Frontier Canada's better themed they'll just have to focus on replacing the rides that either choose to any roller coaster so I think they're asking which roller coaster to the park go in order Intamin Blitz like Velocicoster if anyone in the chat has ridden Velocicoster so you know how good it is it's fast operations if you have good operators and tendons it's themed incredibly living one of the best themed queues ever it's like videos playing, there's dinosaurs everywhere wasn't it also $100 million Wonderland's getting a lot of investments maybe but Velocicoster, Stylecoaster Pantheon, anything like Intamin Blitz New Blitz Steel Vengeance that would take up one fourth of our parade I love Steel Vengeance there's a reason I made a tiktok on it Steel Vengeance is too intense for the average Von intense it's all airtime it's just and it hurts that's intense it hurts I mean you do get a bruise on your thighs ankle if you're tall I'm not tall see this guy's taller than me so thank you for telling everyone that thank you I personally would like a BNM Invert it's always been my favorite ride model and I love them to death and Jake is cringing at me so hard right now I hate BNM Inverts I love BNM Inverts we need a good super intense fun ride at the park and that would definitely fit the bill it would what's your favorite Invert Vampire or Raptor Raptor is fantastic you know what else is fantastic Krega Great Bear was great it wasn't even intense it was just a nice long sprawling layout for an Invert that's just a proper Invert would be perfect otherwise I'm with Jake on the RMC not Steel Vengeance but if it's not an Invert something like Steel Vengeance there was a concept there was a concept I saw way back in the day a few years ago where they got rid of Speed City and they made Wild Beast RMC in the Limits yes I think everyone was it like red? it looked great but I think Wonderland was the term that they not gonna get a Wonderland RMC Vekoma Suspended Throw Coaster oh no Vekoma Suspended Throw Coaster oh the ones with the lap bars those seem pretty fun but I don't know if we're gonna I don't think we're gonna Brendan we enthusiast out Brendan's not an enthusiast oh my god America you couldn't be more right that was within the 10 seconds viewers thought I'm so confused I want to see a mock extreme spinner what? that's also a good one stupid spinny ride stupid spinning but there are some of the most beautiful things ever time travel is one of those a 95 foot tall loop there's no way to gimmick that though that's a problem how would you gimmick a spinning coaster it's a gimmick as itself literally you just asked how a spinning coaster could be a gimmick I'm being yelled at to speak into the world that was me wouldn't you think it's like a wild mouse or wouldn't the average guest just see it as a wild mouse how is it wild mouse-ish this is controversial but Six Flags Great Adventures new ride is stupid I agree oh yeah that is dumb that would be a good ride for a small park that needs an intense ride it doesn't look like bad ride in itself well the fun Americans need something how about chat what do you guys want to see at Wonderland let's see who wants a Intamin Blitz coaster like me what do we want to see at Wonderland after this we are going to move to the Hangout Stream so it would be good answers ooh an SNS4D coaster nope X2 I'm sorry X2 Surf Coaster Maverick Falcon's Flight when he's fit in Wonderland it wouldn't fit in Vaughn it would have to go across the highway it's going to have to go on the Mountain I could see something like Red Forest made by Vakoma coming to Wonderland imagine where would that go though Flight Deck Time Warp Kingswood that wouldn't fit through the hotel you could have like a glass fuller looking down there's a room called a coaster facing room Giga Invert I mean it's Giga Wing, Giga Dive you know what's a coaster that doesn't get love flyers like extremely hard to maintain but Manta is one of my favorite and most intense coasters that I've ridden it's such a unique experience and if you ridden Time Warp it's nothing like Time Warp I promise they're incredible they're the best things one of the best things B&M has ever created who agrees with me I've been on one go to SeaWorld SeaWorld has done actually buy yourself anything else? any more questions? people are trying to put the mic down Jake I'm sorry I think that's it we'll take a little break and then we'll start our little Hangout Stream and feel free to join the Hangout Stream and provide us with any feedback on the podcast I'd be curious how you guys think we can change today's because today felt a little weird so any feedback on today's episode would be great in the Hangout Stream unless we got games I got my whiteboard back Hat Guy needs to learn how to speak it to a mic to the mic it's not me for once thank you so this is a change because normally Discord join the Discord and Patreon I have the whiteboard there write down join discord and Patreon join us in Discord we'll take a 5-10 minute break and then we'll be right back bye