So again, not to take up too much time here. I'd like to introduce to Angela Lau from Staffordshire University. Thank you so much. Good afternoon to all of you and thank you so much for making time for attending this presentation. I'm very excited to present this research project that I've been working from the last couple of years and showcase to you a version of it before it's launched next month. So in this presentation, I'll cover the existing digital learning landscape. And we'll also talk about why do we need interactive roadmap and three or three article underpinnings, and then I'll talk about the four phases in detail of the roadmap that I've created. And lastly, there'll be an opportunity for Q&A and some discussion. And firstly to introduce myself like Chris already mentioned, my name is Anshu Lau. I'm currently working as the team lead for Teaching Innovation and Learning Enhancement Hub at Staffordshire University. I have been a digital technologist from last 12 years and have worked at several institutions and places. As you can see, I've put the logos of different institution of working with. Currently I'm working with Staffordshire University and also work with British Reserve Army in their virtual training development team, which is a newly formed unit that was launched post COVID. And I'm working as a consultant with them. And I'm accredited lego serious player facilitator. I'm passionate about accessibility, playful learning, virtual reality simulation and online course designing. And more recently I've been doing a course and from Alan Turing Institute, it's data science and AI in education with AI picking up everywhere. So firstly, I would like to talk about the current landscape and digital education as we all know that digital education is rapidly evolving industry. So it presents both opportunities as well as challenges. And one of the biggest hurdle that we come across is staff upskilling and upskilling can range from for a new staff member or even the staff that I've been working for a long time. Because technology rapidly evolving, it becomes quite often exercise for the staff to play catch up with technology and catch up with their skills. And this continuous catching up sometimes causes a technology creates technological barriers, but also psychological barriers, because it creates it's a significant roadblock that the fear of just catching up and knowing what's upcoming and new and being innovative. And with so many initiatives or recognition schemes that are launched at different institutions, some people would be called a champion. So nobody want to be left behind. And that's causes psychological as well as technological barrier. And more one of the significant challenges lack of structured approach to digital education and training. Because with the absence of a structured approach to staff development and structure to training, the colleagues do not feel supported or they did is not a clear vision for the staff that what are the skills that I need to be upskilling myself with and majority of the institutions or organizations, staff are not even familiar with the range of offerings or support that are already in place at their organization. So with all the challenges laid down. Now we'll be talking about why do we need a roadmap and and is it even necessary. So just take an example like if you're planning on a long road journey and you are making your way through without a map or a GPS in place. So eventually you will all make up to your destinations, but in at what cost. So it'll cost your time, resources and lost opportunities. So in a way, if you're using GPS, it'll tell you the shortest route, more efficient route and would give you some options of key places you can visit on the way. And so in a way roadmap would be essential element for guiding you through what things that you need to be considered about and working towards for your own professional development. And I must mention this is not one size fits all approach. The one of the beauties of the roadmap is it's highly flexible and adaptable, like every individual every organization every department is distinct. So the model, the roadmap I'll be showcasing you soon in the next few slides. It's all customizable model and also to enhance the engagement and mastery. I think what I would want to say here is that I think we are focusing on an environment where staff should focus on mastering their skills that they already have or build a build up on their skills. So the roadmap is not just talking about creating new skills or new opportunities. It's actually building upon your existing skills. So we are talking about a level of proficiency where we're talking about level of proficiency. I think that gives you an opportunity to explore what is available and engage with it. And that actually requires a methodological and very well thought out and systematic approach. So we have talked about what and we have talked about why. Now I'll be talking about how, how this model was created, like I mentioned, working at different places. So this I must emphasize here. So this model is not actually implemented at Staffordshire University. I started working on this roadmap model when I was working at University of Nottingham before my current role as an e-learning manager. During COVID, that was an opportunity where being a massive university, we came across that majority of the staff are struggling to be aware of what is actually existing. How can they engage with resources? It could be tools, products, events and everything altogether. So that came in idea of coming up with a roadmap. Although roadmap exists for different organizations, even different industry providers would have it. But I just felt that working at different institution, I just felt having a roadmap for an institutional digital learning vision or clarity of that would be really essential. So this roadmap have been developed with underpinning theoretical principles with grounding adult learning around adult learning theory, which emphasizes that all adults and are very distinct and unique. And so as their technological experiences and preferences. Then we acknowledge the diversity of all the individual learners or staff members at an institution. So this roadmap was able to accommodate more inclusive environment and offerings to them irrespective of what kind of experiences or knowledge framework that you already might have with you. And another pillar that it leans on is constructivism. It's not about creating new skills or offering new skills. It's about building on what you already have like I mentioned earlier. So imagine working in an environment that recognizes your current existing skills and gives you more opportunities to build layer and layer on the skills that you might build on or what you already might have. So the model that I'll be presenting in the next slide. Clearly focused on user centric design right from all the modules to the framework and to all the events resources are all centered around keeping the user in mind. And it's highly flexible and scalable because like I mentioned earlier. The model that I'll be showcasing is a replicable and I'll be launching it next towards the next month so that everybody can have a copy customize it to your department's need organizational needs. And flexibility just comes with your particular needs because I'll come to the next slide first. So this is the model that roadmap I've created. As you can see, it's having four different stages. So this model is offering the value added product services, advises or any kind of guidance existing at institution to be made available to the staff members across the institution. So this model has multi modality and multi splitting of resources, conveying that it's just more inclusive in nature. And like our students, our staff has also diverse. So we would need diversity of resources to accommodate the needs of each individual learner. So for four phases, it just conveys that it's four phases are preparation planning delivery and follow up. It just conveys that support and some support and the required kind of guidance that you need is available at every phase of hybrid working and teaching experiences. So right from a preparation stage for attending an induction program and planning to attend some workshops and delivery in having one to one support and in follow up. So I'll take you through each phase and how distinct they are. So in the preparation phase. So the critical point is about evaluating what kind of learning needs you're aiming to address in your institution in your department in whichever kind of respective thing that you need a roadmap for even it could be your teaching framework. If you need a roadmap, just need to evaluate what kind of learning requirements that you are trying to address and what will be the fundamental skills or the aspect that the people or stakeholders need to possess to clearly carry out their job. So in this particular app just added this is I must mention this is a screenshot of a 2D map that was created before the interactive because of the presentation mode. I couldn't present the interactive mode interactive mode is built on thing link, which is very interactive. You can click on any any strand. It will take you to a resource that might be basically a hyperlinked on different kind of places in your university's website or organizations website. So it can it has a couple of videos. It has also potential of capturing feedback. So come down to preparation. So in this one, it's focuses on the foundational skills that the staff or the colleagues must have in terms of digital learning. So it focuses on induction and background showcases the advantages of core technologies and it's even embedding the guided learner journey model in the programs and consistent delivery of modules. This is basically taking them through different frameworks and pedagogical approaches people need to be aware of that can somehow from community building workshops to induction on core technologies that we currently use blackboard in the previous institution views model. So signing up for on those workshops. So this basically people do not need to go to 10 different places and find information on a website. This model would basically give out every possible link that people might need or throughout their working experience at any institution or an organization. And the next phase is planning, planning is a very critical phase because in this you need to address the needs of independent or different respective stakeholders and meeting the needs. I mean that it's multi modality of resources and guidance that you do provide some have to be in person some have to be video to accommodate different learning styles and different priorities and engagement that colleagues might already have. So these are these range from hybrid pedagogy workshops hybrid. So it could be in person or that we do offer some workshops, where somebody can join online and also join in person. So it doesn't make a difference on the learning kind of experience. It's all practical based as well as it can be delivered through online workshops as well. So their colleagues supporting the online participants and in person different colleagues are supporting an initial assessment and module learning design plan. So it's very critical to build in some evaluation and feedback mechanism at a planning stage. So you can evaluate whether your model that you're delivering or the workshops that you're delivering would meet the requirements of the stakeholders or or the staff that you are addressing the model for and then based on like currently we're working on simulation. So we have mixed reality or teaching workshops, video guides online tutorials and central training workshops. So in addition to all the workshops and the links to different things that you can have, it can also signpost you to some existing videos that has already been created. So working at different institutions, I've realized that sometime different departments might not collaborate well with each other and different departments literally just recreate the wheel or central training resources just for their own bespoke department or colleagues. So having a central resource would scale out resources and people do not need to recreate resources. So whenever somebody's updating, they can update the roadmap instead that can be accessed by everybody in the university. The next delivery phase is even more important and delivery phase is about delivering the resources or those to the particular requirements of the staff. So these are bespoke workshops that we deliver and these are virtual and ongoing support for online in online as well. So this offers more over training to academic staff in what's the difference between delivering a blended course to a flexi learn hybrid course or an online course like our previous colleague and mentioned about online courses and different things even in the keynote.  It's I think when you're giving a training, it's not just about giving a familiarity, but also giving an experience of how online courses it being taught and delivered having a in person or first time experience of being taught a course that makes a huge difference. So this roadmap even conveys all the workshops and things that would deliver and most important phase of the roadmap comes in the follow up stage. In the follow up stage, we are just telling that this roadmap is not just a one time event that you come sign up for a workshop and it's finished. So follow up phase help us to evaluate all the offerings that we have delivered through beat induction through preparation planning or delivery just to evaluate on all the offerings. And this also gives us an opportunity to recognize and kind of evaluate the skills and difference. It has made to the colleagues teaching experience or beat professional skills, because there are feedback mechanism that has been built up. There are some pilot groups that are ongoing. So each element that we do is attached with a feedback. So it gives us a possibility of improvising on the offerings that we are making. So it ranges from virtual meetings to office walks is literally about knocking people's offices just to give them an opportunity if they want to speak or if they have anything to ask about or talk about. They can do we have range of master classes, which talks about using mobile apps to multimedia and courses learning design to assessments. And also through this we can also introduce some kind of acknowledgement schemes like we have recently launched a diversity with module innovation scheme. So if in case you have been to a couple of workshops, if you've been to five workshops, this is an opportunity. So this is a model that how we have gamified. If you have been to any five workshops, you can participate in the diversity with module innovation scheme, which the criteria is representation, accessibility, challenge and transformation. So this also schemes like this or an acknowledgement aspect basically encourages people to attend more workshops as long as they're familiar with the offerings that are available. So it's really helpful. So as I've made a road in this map. So in that actual model, there are little orientation is little different, but it just conveys that you might be a very tech savvy person or you might have just started this roadmap is for everybody. So if you take rights, a road directly in the delivery stage or a follow up stage so you can participate in all kinds of training or resources that is available for you at the university. Like I mentioned, we have gamified this model and I've created the actual model using tingling. I'll be great. You're sharing the link using a QR code openly so if feel free to use it replicated to your own customized and needs. And I think gamification just boosts curiosity as well as commitment. And we have introduced acknowledgement schemes through digital badges and more importantly, I would also like to mention that the model I'm creating for a personalized institution is a two tier. So we have got another framework which is digital transformation framework, which is having three different levels. One is foundational skills, one is transformation skills, one is elevation skills, foundational skills model is based on the skills that you must have as an academic staff or a professional staff. These are the courses you must attend. Then the transformational skills are the courses that you should attend that would elevate your experience and transform your experience with maybe learning more about using Blackboard or your particular VLE, how to be more innovative in assessments, use of chat GPT, how to run workshops using artificial intelligence and also the last stage it's elevation elevation skills are the skills that you can have that these are not mandatory. Your skills that you should have or you must have these are the skills that you can have. So these are some use of simulation or use of VR technologies in your education. So we are experimenting with different technologies even from drone to different aspects. So these are the skills that you can have. So these are gamification has really added a great value and significantly increase the participation. So we have done soft launches of this model to seek feedback internally before formally launching it externally. So by gamifying this model earlier before that, just sharing through link, we had 300 people who participated in a span of three months. But after we gamified and introduced different badges and kind of collided with this digital transformation model. We have overall 1700 staff which have actively participated and have been earning badges throughout. So I must mention about the few benefits of interactive roadmap or already mentioned few. Like I must mention it's provides a scaffolded multimodal training and support system. So it conveys to the staff what is available at the university and what kind of support they can seek from an institution. And it creates an immersive environment for active learning. And it also offers various range of activities, support offering services. Absolutely fine. And guidance that is provided at the university. And more importantly, I must mention when you're clearly conveying the digital kind of transformation vision to your academic staff or making it very transparent to everybody in the university or your institution. And then it naturally builds trust and confidence of staff upon the institution in knowing what kind of vision the university holds and what kind of support is overall available at the university. Because majority of the time staff are still struggling with knowing about what workshop is coming what kind of support is available at the university and the professional staff struggle with the numbers that people number of people who are attending their workshops. So I think this model is basically addressing the training and development gap, which has held us back, and just to everybody be more upscaled and addressing the upscaling challenge that I mentioned earlier. And it also issues regarding the quality of support and the scaffolded nature of resources and support available at the university, making it more accessible in nature. I must mention the, the current plan before the even launches currently the refining the roadmap even going forward we'll be seeking feedback from colleagues. So the aim is about co designing and developing it further in partnership with the staff. So even the vision is to expand it further to different areas in relation to student learning as well as community building as well. So refining the roadmap with evolving products and services and support provision would be another key priority, because the digital kind of landscape evolving so often and so sooner we will be incorporating new products and services that can be delivered through a roadmap. And I must have mentioned about what how and why I must mention now what do I mean by a broad impact and application. I have lightly touched upon it earlier so take this roadmap that I showed you as a template that you can replicate in your department in your own particular scope of your organization. And it can not only address or meet the individual needs, but can also address the needs of organizational strategic priorities, as well as policies, as long as you're clear on the needs and the aim that you're addressing with the roadmap. So it's I would say it's beyond the training tool and it's the the flexibility and adaptable characteristic of this roadmap makes it very efficient and very usable format. And I must mention that it's it's highly accessible. It's not just mean in terms of engagement what we are trying to achieve it to make the roadmap more understandable and usable by colleagues so that they can engage with it. And what I meant by scalable and replicable is that I'll be sharing the roadmap link, which you can literally customize in real time with with your needs, be it around student needs or your teaching approach. Or if you're a digital learning professional that you can literally make it for a specific department colleagues as well. And it's focusing the entire roadmap that I've created is based on five fundamental principles that are grounded in the approach of this model, which would be around digital fluency, digital infrastructure collaboration, innovation and inclusivity. So we have made sure that the model is not missing out on any of these elements, and it's, it's more understandable and, and it's helping the academic staff as well as professional staff colleagues. So lastly, as conclusion, I must mention that the roadmap was an aim just to lay out the foundation for staff upscaling, and it just lays out clear vision for the staff and professional colleagues across the institution about digital learning vision or as well as organizational priorities, whatever that might be. And it also provides a surety to the support staff as well as entire teaching staff about the support that is available and is offered to them for hybrid working and teaching practices. And the model is very innovative. And with in terms of offerings because it can accommodate videos offering advice, it can provide some existing resources, and it can easily be copied over and all the things are linked to your icon invites as well so automatically if somebody signs up, it even builds up a calendar invite in your calendars as well as it also have a mechanism of build a build in mechanism of capturing feedback as well. And I think the plan is going forward to incorporate new features and tools into the platform because we are currently trying out to build it into a virtual environment as well. In case if you want to incorporate test in a different environment. So we'll also be sharing the model for replicating into a virtual learning environment as well. I think that'll be all. So overall it's a roadmap that they've created. It's been a progressing process that has taken me working at different institution different experiences that this has been projected I'm more than happy to answer any questions that you might have now, or any discussion you want to have. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. As a geography graduate I do love a good map so thank you for that. And what questions do we have for. Yes, please. Yes, you first. It's not about watching videos is about basically the roadmap was it's about showcasing and scaling out what kind of resources and overall support is available for the staff at the university. And it's not just about watching videos it's about signing up with different resources and signing up with different initiatives guidance, and you can even schedule one to one meeting so it's very interactive. So interactivity would include some videos some guidance, some training provision, some providing feedback, some actually calling in a person to scale a range of meeting and participating in some award scheme signing up. So it's, I would even suggest that it's not even full of hyperlinks. So it's very interactive in nature that's why I called it interact interactive roadmap. I couldn't show the interactivity of this roadmap that is currently in development, but this is a 2d image that I showed that can reflect the essence and impact it can have. Thank you. Yeah. I would suggest that's a very good question but I would say that it's basically about enforcing an opportunity on them. So even if it's being enforced on them, it's presenting an opportunity so it's not taking away their time from them. It's offering them more confidence with the support and offerings that could be offered at like across the institution. So it's basically, I think, so far, we have all had very positive feedback with stuff struggling to find resources, going to different tabs and digging into website to find a single link. It just clearly laying out everything so we are even building it for a strategic roadmap for at our institution, which has been really helpful for senior leadership and head of departments to bear off different training and different things that you need to sign up with. It includes e-learning courses. So in addition to videos, it also includes the learning courses as long as you click on something and launch a e-learning course for you. And we are also capturing the analytics of how well people have engaged and the gamify element is just increase boosting the engagement and just creating curiosity among staff members. So I would say curiosity in a very positive manner. People would want to engage with it. People would want to know what are the offerings available at the university. So some are, some have been in fact suggested by staff members. The follow-up has all been based on the suggestions that we have got from colleagues. So earlier we did not have provision of master classes scaled out here or office works or something new that was suggested by colleagues that I've never experienced like a marketing person going and knocking on people's offices. But so far the colleagues have got very positive experiences that we as a digital learning team have been portrayed as a department which is very reachable and approachable. So it's just a level of confidence that you build on staff that can even help with retention because majority of the staff, even if somebody is leaving an institution just would feel that their staff is this institution is not preparing them for future or they are not able to keep up. So that significant roadblock is just catching up, definitely affects their technological barriers would definitely affect their motivation, I would say. Thank you. Thank you very much. That's time. Thank you. Can we just skip. Thank you so much.


Do you think so? Mm-hmm. Good style, nice imagination. I think he's a very talented man. Well, thank you very much. Oh, it's nothing really. There's room B, room A. I wonder where room E is. How should I know? Are you going to the Waterbury lecture? No, I'm not. Let's find out where she's going. Oh, you're kidding me. I'm sorry. Where's the Waterbury lecture, do you know? The Jewel in Waterbury? Yes, I am. How do you do? Follow me. Where are you taking us? Room E. Are you a student or a teacher? I'm a student. Oh, advanced or beginner? What do I look like? Well, you look very advanced to me. Oh, Mr. Waterbury, goody. How are you doing, Mr. Gilbride? You're right on time. We almost didn't get here. I was doing his laundry and we had to wait for it to dry. His underwear is still wet. I brought a friend, Mr. Ronnie Hastings. Oh, how do you do, Mr. Hastings? Hey, let me get you a chair. No, no, no, never mind. I'll sit in the bleachers. Are you going to be a writer, too? I hope to be someday. This lecture should help you a great deal. He's a great writer, isn't he? Oh, yes. Of course, he gets most of his ideas from me. Excuse me. Yes? You're sitting in my seat. Oh, I'm terribly sorry. Good evening, Mr. Howard. Hello, Mr. Scott. Uh, anybody sitting here? Yes, Clarence Henderson.  Well, then why did you make me move? Well, Clarence and I don't speak. Oh, well, attention class. As I promised you, our guest speaker tonight will be none other than Owen Waterbury, author of the new bestseller, Last Year's Love. Mr. Waterbury. Oh, louder, louder. I understand that most of your whole law sorts of jobs during the day, and yet you've been studying the technique of writing in the evening.  You know, I'm hardly the person to tell you how to write because I don't follow any rules. Today, the writer is asked to keep one eye on the bestseller list, the other on art. That's divided loyalty, and that makes for dishonesty. I must confess, I've been guilty of this dishonesty, too. But now that I've made my position secure, I'm going to try to write a really good book. No more bestsellers, but something that I hope will be a piece of great writing. You know, good writing, fine writing, is here and here.  He's so brilliant. Because a writer, fundamentally, must believe in himself. That's half the battle. I'm going to say that I'm going to be in a position to help somebody here in this class. Beginning tomorrow, I'm going to need a secretary. I've already placed the request with the University Placement Bureau, and man or woman, whoever qualifies, will get the job. That's very nice of you, Mr. Waterbury. Well, it's not a big job, but the surround things will be wholesome. You deserve your apprenticeship under someone who's already established. Well, so much for that. I remember when I wrote my first novel, took a lot of work. I starved, lived in a little back room, all the while consoling myself that I was going to be another poet. So you're really going to work for Owen Waterbury? Well, I was offered the job by his personnel manager. I've heard a lot of weird stories about Owen Waterbury. Oh, you hear weird stories about any famous person. My last night's talk was actually inspiring. Steve, do you realize you've been here five years? Well, isn't that a little too long for anyone with my ambition? Where does Mr. Waterbury do his work? Well, his personnel manager said in his apartment. Apartment? Well, you can't expect a writer to work in an office, Mr. Harris. I want to write, and I think he can show me how. Who knows? After a year with him, I might even be autographing copies of my own book in one of your bookstores. By taking a course in Owen Waterbury. And getting paid for it at the same time.  Oh, no, you won't. After a week, you won't even know I've gone. Not true, but good luck anyway. Well, I could make a big speech, but I think you know how I feel about everything. You've been wonderful to me. I understand. Steve. Yes? Call me sometime, will you? We'd like to know how you're getting on. I'll call you tonight, after I get the job. Why don't you walk while you're parking? Well, you can back up, can't you? You've got to revise. Never mind, Bill. Just save your energy for upstairs. Smart guy. Hand me the bag, Bill. Yes, ma'am. I'll take it upstairs for you, ma'am. Anything drives a cab these days. Apartment free. Thank you, ma'am. Just remember, Bill, if he says one word that's out of line, just one word, I'm going to bot him right on the job. Then I'll take my license away. Not for protecting a lady. Come on in and out, in and out. You know, I hit pretty hard, but harder the better. Is he a big guy? Six feet of bluff. I'll cut him down. I didn't get this nose for nothing. Are you sure he can't fight? He's a writer. Writer? Fighter? Now remember, if he just so much as opens his mouth. Don't worry.  I've got a bigger mouth than he's got. I've come for my things. And what's the objection? Evidently, he has none. Follow me, Bill.  Yes, ma'am. No, no, no. Not the drawer. Just the thing. Oh, come in. Come in. Come right in. That's right. That's Mr. Waterbury's former secretary. She quit this morning. Won't you sit down? This is my nink. And how? Mr. Waterbury gave that to her as a Christmas bonus. My typewriter. Well, that was sort of a New Year's bonus. My ojoudouille? She brought her own ojoudouille. My pot. She cooked once in a while. My bourbon. She drank a little. My cigarette box. She smoked, too. My lipstick. Shall we adjourn to the library? Your frankfritters, Mr. Waterbury. Good thing you didn't open your mouth. Thank you. Come along, Bill. Don't bother with your inferiors. And now, miss, what can I do for you? This is your new secretary. Oh, yes, you're from the Kilbride School. Yes, I am. Say, look at that. She knocked over a bottle of ink all over the carpet. Would you try cleaning it up, please, Mary? Not me. The landlady says I'm not to clean up any more messes. Just do my regular work and get out of here. Excuse me. Would you like some help? Oh, thank you very much. Hey, you're going to work out fine. Here, Ronnie. I'm an expert at this sort of thing. He sure is. He cleans up about six of them a month. I'll need a cloth and some rug shampoo. This is the stuff you've been using lately. Here. This is a woman's job. It was a woman who did it. It was an accident. You better not let the landlady see that. She'll add $100 for damages to your rent. That's more than last month. I've got some on my dress. Oh, look. Why don't you work on the rug and I'll work on your dress? Why don't you two work on the rug and I'll work on her dress? I'll work on my dress. I'll work on the kitchen. Do you like hot dogs? Occasionally, yes. Fine. We'll have them for lunch and for dinner we'll have steak. Lunch? Dinner what? I haven't even been interviewed yet. What's your name? Stephanie Gaylord. What do your friends call you? Steve. All that settles that I think she should be hired. How are I in shorthand? 120 words a minute. Do you do laundry? My own, generally. Well, you're going to have to learn to do silk shirts. 120 a minute. I'll do the cooking. And eating. Do you live here too? No, I live next door. But he hasn't been there since July. That's because I have no kitchen. Well, we see we share our kitchen on a cooperative basis. He cooks and he eats. You know, Owen and I went to school together. I was in kindergarten and he was in the eighth grade. And I went to high school and he was still in kindergarten. And then I studied piano and became a character in every Waterbury book. And what were you in last year's love? I was the chorus girl who studied piano and was very bitter about the world. Where'd you work before? Who, me? I was secretary to Charles Harris. He owns the Harris Bookstores all over the country. And how is Mr. Waterbury's latest novel doing? Second only to the Bible. Oh, he won't like that. You married Steve? No, I'm not. Please, Ronnie, I'm not interested in whether or not Miss Gaylord is married. Oh, no. My biscuits are burning. I've, uh, I've had married secretaries before and while their husbands were a little troublesome. They were murder. Uh, his working hours are very peculiar. I think we've done a good job. I had such a different impression of what this job would be like. Oh, today was an unusual day. But after this, there'll be no more distractions. We're going to work in an atmosphere of dignity and culture. Oh, it's your bookmaker. The man's here again. Eleven bucks. Time out. It's time out. He'll be dragging a load of ice. Two hundred and seventy-eight for Owen and a buck for you. It's mine until next week. You want to wage her today? Well, uh, I haven't looked them over yet, but I'll give you a call. And no more fifty cents, vets. The boss don't like them. You were telling me that everything here was dignified and cultural. Oh, yes. Now, Steve, about your other duties. Just to have an interview with my daughter, Mary Hastings, about a secretarial job? Well, yes. I have a message for you. Well, what's a message? Mr. Waterbury, I don't think I want this job. Well, why not? Well, when you spoke at class last evening, everything seemed so, so refreshing. And when I read your novels, they were filled with such quality and high purpose, and I'm afraid all that's spoiled now, so no harsh words, no hard feelings, just get somebody else. Well, if that's the way you feel, Miss Gaylord, are you walking out on Owen Waterbury? Don't beg the girl to work for me, Ronnie. Just call the agency and get another girl. Now, you know you don't mean that. We'd both like this one. Are you going to let me out of here or do I have to call the police? They're here already. I came for the man. Mrs. Reeves, I just mailed you a check this morning. Oh, you always do that knowing full well that I only live downstairs. Any damage this month? Oh, it's been a very, very uneventful month. Oh, the carpet again. Yes. Mercy! She belongs here.  Mrs. Reeves, if you'll excuse me. I heard you screaming just outside the door. New secretary? Well, yes, yes. You being hired or fired? Miss Gaylord has just been engaged. Oh, too bad, Mr. Waterbury, because suddenly moving the apartment upstairs would just fill your every requirement. Well, unfortunately, Mrs. Reeves, the job has just been filled. Well, I want you to meet her anyway. Felicia! Felicia Adams, I want you to meet the famous Owen Waterbury. How do you do? I'm him. How do you do? How do you do? Felicia came to California to get into the movies. Now, who does she remind you of? Well, now, don't tell me. Let me guess. Zazu Pitts. Oh, of course not. Felicia, in addition to being a secretary, is a very good actress, aren't you, dear? And take off your coat and let them see. She's got a lot of talent there. Oh, I thought you'd think so. I was a model back in Texas, but I came out here for a career. Daddy's financing me. A friend of yours? No, my father. Perhaps Felicia can play the heroine in your next novel when it's made to a movie. She could do that. What's a heroine like? It's a girl from the south. Why, on from the south? Help! She's trying to hook a rich man.  Well, what's worrying you? Well, I'm not so worried about being insincere, but as for being a moron... Well, don't worry about that.  I could try. Oh, I'm going to dramatic school.  If you studied hard enough, yes. It would take a lot of work. Look, Mrs. Reeves, I haven't even started my novel yet, and it doesn't look as if I'm going to if I'm continually interrupted. Well, we'll leave and let you work. Oh, Ronnie, I'm having a party for 50 guests tonight, and I'm expecting you to entertain for us at nine. Is it informal, or shall I bathe? If you don't care to entertain at my parties, pay your rent. Well, I'm off to the washroom. You haven't got a chance.  Now, come on, Steve, let you and I prepare lunch. Look, I stayed only because I didn't want to cause any trouble on your land, lady, but I'm really leaving now. What an idea. What an idea. Take this doll. Come on, take it down. We'll raise your pants. We're going to have a hat. You can't go to church like this without a hat. You're going to pay for this. Give it to me. Wait, I've got it. I've got it. All this notes on my new... Now, tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock, he's incubating. He's incubating. Yes, yes, always. Last year's love. I was baking a cake. All of a sudden, he called me out and I had to start taking dictation. And I couldn't go back until he was soon dictating. At three o'clock in the morning, we sat down to chocolate-covered ashes. Oh, but I'll see you at 10 o'clock in the morning. I couldn't wait for you to call me, so I'm calling you. How was the job? Well, I had to make an adjustment, you know. It's such an unusual kind of a job. I can imagine. He started his novel today. Oh, interesting story. Well, he didn't get very far into it, but I'm sure it's going to be wonderful. He seems so excited about it. Look, Steve, let's have dinner one night this week. Well, I'll call you the first night I have free. Good morning. Well, you're bright and early this morning. It's 10 o'clock. Say, did you ever think how you'd look in mink? I see you've got your pants. Keep your pencil poised. The genius is still dressing. I'm making potato pancakes for lunch and he's in a sour cream mood today. If you need anything ironed, I'll be in the kitchen ironing. Good morning, Steve. Good morning. Right on time. Let's see. Where did I leave off yesterday? Notes on my new novel. Yeah. Where did I leave off? Notes on my new novel. Oh, yes. Make that notes on my new novel by Owen Waterbury. That's good. Oh, that's real good. Don't you think that's good? Oh, I like that. Chapter one. General introduction of characters. Chapter two. Well, I do chapter two tomorrow. Chapter a day? That's swell. You sure you're not tired? Miss Gaylord, you stay here and answer the telephone. I'm going to the beach for some salt air. Well, be sure you don't bring any home with you. Right, boy. Let's drive someplace nice, like Santa Barbara. Well, honey, anything you say. Don't pay any attention to him. He's just trying to make you jealous. Jealous? Well, what makes you think I'm even interested in him?  Annoyed? Of course I'm annoyed. I just don't want to sit here doing nothing. I came here to work. I came here to do nothing, and now I'm working.  There goes another one. I have to ask you a question. Yes? Does Mr. Waterbury intend to write a book? That's a very interesting question. Waterbury's a genius. What do you think he's doing right now? Incubating. Exactly. And whenever he goes through a mood like this, a great book comes out of him. I'll bet he does a lot of writing tonight. Why, honey, you're jealous. Look, I don't even know Mr. Waterbury. At this point, I'm not even sure I want to. Of course not, honey. Say, can you tell me what I'm doing wrong? Everything. Here, let me have it. I can get so many wrinkles in it. He's tried 16 laundries, but he still likes my work best. These are good shirts. We're good shirts. You know, I just thought of something. What? I must be going out of my mind. Why? Well, I went to night school for a whole year to learn to be a writer. And here I am doing a guy's laundry. It's not done yet. Hello? Miss Gaylord, this is Owen Waterbury. I want you to be here tomorrow morning at nine o'clock. I've finally gotten the idea. Thank you. You know, Owen, I like that idea. Yeah? I don't think there's a horse in there that can beat him. Never. Morning. Oh, lead your coat on. Feed the tax. He'll be here in just a minute. Got a pair for her? Well, she can use mine. Where are we going? To the races. To the races? Haven't you ever been? Oh, I've never in my life. Swell, always lucky the first time. Come on. What about that idea you had there? Oh, that can wait till after the third race. Look, I got a horse in here. Waterbury, I don't think I ought to go along.  Come on! Time to take those guys' tips. Well, so far, this job has cost me $83. Now, don't worry. I'll see you get that back. Why should you? I gambled and I lost. Well, losing is good for the soul. We have the three best souls in town. Good morning. Morning. Well, leave your coat on, Steve. The plane leaves in 35 minutes. The plane? Where are you going? Las Vegas and get back $83. Las Vegas? I can't go to Las Vegas with you. Are you objecting to being paid while working? Paid! I don't think I can afford to work for you much longer, Mr. Waterbury. Oh, Steve, it only takes an hour and a half to fly. Hey! You can catch the evening plane back. You're home in time for dinner. With tons of money! Oh, sorry, student. No dollar bet. When are we leaving, Mr. Waterbury? 3,000. But you said we'd catch the midnight plane. There'll be another plane at two, darling. Make sure there's no night flight. It was going to be so uplifting. Correct. See you later. That's true. See what you did? What are you grinning about?  Everything was going to be so intellectual. Correct. See again. Can't you make anything but crap? Going to meet only literary people. Snake eye! I've never saw that before. Don't make any more craps, understand? I'll tell him when he comes in. Keep your mind on the dice. Put this all on seven. She's gonna make this five for once. You know, I'm writing a novel to Mr. Waterbury. It'll be a honey. A two and a one. What's wrong? Keep your mind on the dice when you're rolling.  She's not breathing. It's not over here. It's not that money. I'm scared, Lord. I'm going home. And I never want to see you again.  A cheap egotistical fraud. And your whole existence is something I want no part of. I'm sorry I even met you because you've spoiled something for me. You've spoiled my impression of Owen Waterbury, the writer. Steve, look. You can't go home alone. I'll take you home. Steve, please sit down. I want to talk to you, please. Steve, honestly, this gambling, it's an insidious thing. It changes a person. I'm really terribly sorry. Then why don't you put a stop to all of this and get down to work? I guess I'm afraid. Afraid of what? I'm afraid I'm not the great writer I started out to be. Instead, I'm just a commercial hack. Oh, no, you're not. Didn't you see how everyone at the university treated you with awe and respect? Why don't you write another love story? Are they going backwards? Backwards? Stick to your last. You know the story of the clown who always wanted to play Hamlet.  If I try another love story, will you work for me? If you work, I'll work for you. Thank you. I'm poor again. I just switched to sevens. No, no, keep your coat on. I'll tell you why. The taxi is going to be here in just one minute. What? Oh, don't worry. We're going to work, but let's do it at the beach house, huh? He's superstitious, honey. He starts all his novels at the beach house. But why the beach house? Would you like last year's love? Very much. Well, most of last year's love was done down there. Shall I take the typewriter? It'd be a nice idea. Well, honey, will you stop teasing the girl? I'll be dictating today. Come on, Steve. I'll dictate this in outline form and then I'll polish it up later. Yes, Mr. Waterbury.  And then the whole world seemed changed. It's seen her one night while delivering a lecture to a short story class. There were so many faces looming up in front of him, but he saw only one, hers. Whistful, delicate, exquisitely beautiful. Without her knowledge, he arranged to make her his secretary because in that fleeting moment, in that single instant, he knew he was desperately in love with her. One day, he asked her to go to his beach house and work there because he wanted very much to tell her the way he felt, but he lacked the courage. Mr. Waterbury, I... Miss Gaylord, when I'm working, I don't like to be disturbed. Sorry. Where was I? He wanted very much to tell her how he felt, but he lacked the courage.  Now here she was, seated before him, tender and fragile as a poem. He had looked around a quarter corner, and there she was. What's the matter? Oh, I've built my pencil. There you are. Let's continue. He, uh... He was tempted to take her up in his arms and sweep her to the summit, but he didn't dare. He knew very little about her, yet there was nothing else he needed to know. As he strode up and down the room, stating he, uh... He looked toward her polka dot necktie. What's the matter with you? Where was I? Polka dot necktie. Oh, polka dot necktie. Uh, he, uh... He was impressed by the loveliness of her hair, her soft blue eyes, her delicate mouth, a breathing, living thing that made him exalted and inspired. He wanted to take her in his arms and smother her with kisses in the beauty of her soul, but... he was a coward. How do you like it? It has possibilities. Suddenly he threw caution to the winds, leaned over and kissed her. She melted in his arms and offered no resistance. Wordlessly, they held one another in silent embrace. You've got the wrong girl, Mr. Waterbury. I'm really leaving you this time, and don't you ever try and get in touch with me again. I don't even want my salary check. You can save it for the next victim. And if I ever see one of your books again... I'll burn it! Well, hello, son. I just thought I'd call you and let you know I made dinner for the three of us and ask Steve if she likes popovers. Steve's just quick. I'm dictating a harmless little scene. Suddenly she takes a fence, slams me on the couch with a hammer lock and walks out. Is she insane? Well, I'll call the agency and get them to send over another girl. I have one who likes broiled chicken, because that's what we have for dinner. Don't call anybody. I'm not going to go to work for a long time. Come on, will you get out of here so I can wash these keys? I'm composing. Composing. I haven't heard a good song out of you yet. That's it. Give me that again. Thank you very much. All in that thing. Spin my nose. Come on, sing it. Oh, Mr. Molly, I... Here, listen to that.  Poor roast chicken. I cook her a melon a little. Oh, you have his dinner out tonight. Well, so am I.  My duty is your servant to tell you what just happened in the kitchen.  I don't care if he sits fired to the whole apartment. Saddle tail? A lot of good it, did you? Will you stop asking me silly questions? I told you on the phone she quit. Well, she had some nerve. Well, I don't need her. There's a lot of other secretaries. Of course there are. That's just capable, efficient, and just as cute. Sure. We never did find out how good she could type. Agency and get another secretary. What you going to do? I'm going to pack. Where are you going? New York. Change of environment. What should happen to you? That's a very unfair question.  Never in a million years. I've got a life to live too. An exciting life. I've got a book inside me, a great book full of intensity and scope. Oh, you know something, Ronnie? I'm glad this happened. I'm down to earth now. What happened? When you couldn't still use it, else he called. She's, uh, sorry. She quit, and now she apologized for the cab driver. See, that's what Steve will be doing tomorrow. Calling and apologizing, but I won't be here. Say, what am I running away for anyway? I'm not afraid of her. That's what I like to hear. We'll take her out to dinner. We'll take her all out to dinner. A different one each night. I'll go and change my apron and be right back. Detective Agency? This is Owen Waterburn. Look, I want you to shadow a girl for me. Stephanie Gaylord. I'm going to have a good time tonight, okay? I'm willing. I'm willing. Here, why here? You've always hated the Ridgley Room. He's joking. I'm not joking. You've always hated it. Hasn't he, Elsie? I thought so. I always hated it. Mr. Waterbury, there's a gentleman here to see you. Oh, yes. Ronnie, will you take Elsie to a table, and I'll join you in just a minute. All right, but don't leave us. Don't stick Elsie with the check again. Antoni, you're table three. Table three. Where is he? Alcove 2. Yes, Brian Detective Agency. Devon is the name. Well, how'd you find her so fast? That's my job. There she is right over there, with a man. Who's the man? I don't know. Do you want me to find her? Of course I do. All right, I'll start chattering both him and her. You want to find out everything you can about her? I think she's in love with him. Is she your wife? No, my secretary. I get you. Look, I want nobody to know about this. Can you check a pass for me? It'll be expensive. Why? The unknown quantity.  It took us a year to get her pass caught up with her present. Do a good job. I will. Take care of my check. Cigarettes? Yes, give me a pack, please. Oh, excuse me. Hiya, Steve. Hello, Ronnie. Don't talk to her. I'm mad at her. Oh, I forgot. Charles Harris. The bookseller. That's Steve's old boss. He's not so old.  Listen, Shakespeare, I'll work for whom I please. Or did you have to pick on her old boss? Did she pick on mine? And Mr. Harris called the employment agency. He asked for somebody with literary experience. How did you qualify? You used to work for Walter Berry. Steve, with her principles, out with her ex-boss. What about Elsie? Who's she out with? We're talking about Steve and her principles. Leave mine out of it.  Well, you're not very complimentary. I happen to be an excellent secretary. When did you learn to type, dear? I knew about me. Only the normal questions about my experience. You didn't talk, did you? Ronnie, we just stopped looking at everything. It's one big long laugh.  What? They're going to be married. What? They're going to be married. Where are you going? I'm going to talk to her. Your order, please. A boiled chicken. Yes? Well, I'll have a glass full, too. Hello. Good evening, Mr. Harris and Mr. Walter Berry. Well, congratulations. I just heard the good news. What good news? That's entirely up to her, isn't it? So, she decided to get married to the wrong guy. Are we going to dance? Or are you going to dictate a novel?  For your information, I'm not marrying anyone. Oh, well, now how I respect you. You respect all girls who decide not to get married. Uh, going back to work for? Is this a quiz, or are we going to dance? Well, it could be both. Say, how would you like your own job back? Better terms? Not interested. I'll throw in a voice. Marriage. Mr. Walter Berry, you talk about marriage as though it was something cheap and vulgar. Who else but Owen Water guy would invite you out for the evening and dance with another girl? I would. Say, why don't you pay him back and dance with Mr. Harris? I wouldn't think of dancing with my boss. This is me you're talking to, remember? Well, I mean not till I've worked for him for a few days. Well, that's a nice sentiment. Steve, you're in my arms at last. I'm holding you at last. We're dancing. You may be dancing, but I'm holding you.  Listen to me, Steve. I love you. Everything I dictated at the beach house I met, but it was too much of a coward to say it out. I love you, Steve. Marry me. Take a chance. This is me, the author with beautiful words, but I'm stopped. All I can say is, I love you. Marry me. You're chicken, madame. You're chicken in the glass, sir. Harris looks lonely. Mr. Harris, this is Ronnie Hastings. How do you do?  Thank you. I think I will. Have you ever heard the story of the unholy three? Don't mind. I think I'll be running along. Mr. Harris, would you mind taking me with you? Not at all. Who's going to take me? You watch the floor show. I want to dance. Are you a gigolo? After tonight, I think I will be. Isn't life strange? When one gets up in the morning, one never knows what one will be doing in the evening. Does one? Oh, dear. Right up for the outer office. Mr. Harris' office? Just a moment, please. What's the matter? Is anything wrong? Married Steve. He didn't. Oh, yes, he did. I never thought she'd marry him. I never thought he'd get married. I'd be the first to kiss the bride. Or am I the first? I'm not a very wide awake bride. Let's get some sleep and then we'll go over to the beach house. How long have you been driving? 24 hours. Las Vegas and back. Who's back to be? As soon as I told her the news, she decided to move out. It's a good idea. This is quite a threshold. We can use the threshold upstairs. Good idea. Congratulations. You did very well. She certainly did. I'll get you moved in as soon as I get her rooms out. Why don't you try to build it next door here? Thank you, Mary. Very sweet of you. Made a wedding breakfast. Spaghetti and meatballs. Look, Ronnie, I... Well, I know you're trying to be helpful, but this is our honeymoon. We'd like to be alone. Oh, sure. Say, Steve, be nice to him, will you? He's my only means of support.  Well, what a question to ask me now. Well, it was on the spur of the moment, and you do change your mind, so... Donnie, I'll never change my mind about you.  Could you tell me where is apartment 3E? Who are you looking for? Isn't that the business of the people in apartment 3E? It's the next apartment down the hall, sir. Hi, thank you, pardon me. What can I do for you? I have a message for Mr. Waterbury. Well, I'm afraid Mr. Waterbury can't be disturbed just now. He's, uh... he's a little busy. My name is Devaney. Will you tell him the woman he's interested in got married? There's a fellow who's outside said his name was Devaney. He had a message for you. I don't know any Devneys. He said the party you were interested in got married. Well, congratulations. So did I. Darling, whom were you interested in? Who got married? There's only one married girl I'm interested in. Now, Mr. Waterbury, I want to see him right away, and I mean immediately. Oh, and horrible Hannah's here. We called you that affectionately here. Now what is it? I didn't know your secretary was working late. She might as well be in on this. Just what can I do for you, Mrs. Reeves? I've come for the rent. But I've paid you the rent on the first, Mrs. Reeves. I've had to make a new rule, Mr. Waterbury. I don't take bad checks. When'd you make that rule? Since you moved in. Darling, do you happen to have 485 dollars in the bank? I think so. Could you write me out a check till I get this thing straightened out? I can't understand how my account got so low.  Oh, yes. And the two bucks for the marriage license? That's the deal! Thank you, dear. Thank you, Mrs. Waterbury. I'll just walk you down the hall. Oh, thank you, Ronnie. Is this any good? She's loaded. I suppose an explanation is in order. You don't owe me an explanation. Oh, but darling, I want to explain... Oh, excuse me. Oh, hello, Dick. Congratulations, we just heard. Well, thank you, Bertie. Congratulations. Thanks a lot.  Yes, thanks. Oh, darling, I want you to meet Mr. Fulton, my publisher, and Bertie, this is my wife. How do you do? So nice knowing you. Oh, and you're not thinking of a prolonged honeymoon, are you? Oh, no. We're just going down to the beach house. Well, I thought I'd dictate my honeymoon. Good idea.  It's got to be made. You know why. Well, I'll have it ready, Dick. I'll count on it. Would you like a drink? No, no, thanks. We were double parked downstairs. Come here. Uh, how's Ronnie? Oh, still eating. Same old Ronnie. Yes, Bertie's told me about Ronnie. She says that when he dies, he'll ask the crematorium to baste him slowly on both sides. You know Ronnie? Oh, of course. I was once Mr. Waterbury's secretary. Uh... Well, thanks an awful lot for coming, Dick. Happy honeymoon. Thank you. Darling, why did Mr. Fulton look at you so accusingly? Well, I owe him $20,000. I drew it as advanced royalty against my next novel. And that mink coat Mrs. Fulton had on? Is that one you gave her? Oh, Bertie meant nothing to me. I'd written a best-seller, and I was throwing money around like water. You can always take it back and give it to Mr. Fulton as part payment. Oh, darling, I'll get you a hundred mink coats. Darling, I don't think I can afford a hundred mink coats.  Honey, did you marry me for my money? No, but I'm beginning to think you married me for mine. Look, darling, let's get out of here. We're never going to be alone here. Honey, I know a perfect little mountain cabin away from publishers and landlady... And secretary? Well, except you. And I'm going to work. I promise you. I promise you. How long did you work on this book, though? Four months? I'm rather proud of this one, Dick. Where's Mrs. Waterbury? Oh, Steve's down at the village getting groceries. She wants to prepare you one of her special dinners. Well, I'm afraid I can't stay for dinner. I have to catch that next train back. Dick, let's drop the suspense. How'd you like the book? I'm going to let you have it right between the eyes, Owen. You don't like it? I hate it. Just about the worst piece of drivel I ever read. Well, if I were to publish this, Owen, it would ruin you. Fortunately, I found another book to use in its place. What's the matter with me, Dick? Am I through? Of course not. Every top flight novelist has a bad book in him. Well, how am I going to pay back your money? Well, don't worry about that. I'm sorry, Owen. Darling, I got some of that wonderful ven... Well, hello, Mr. Fulton. It's so nice seeing you again. Do you like venison? Well, I'm afraid I can't stay. Oh, why not? I've got some very important business in town. Well, I'm very sorry. I was going to fix you one of my special dishes. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, some other time. Goodbye, Mrs. Waterbury. Goodbye, Mr. Fulton. Bye, Owen. Goodbye, Dick. He doesn't like you. I don't know. Do you think he's right? He's always been right. Until he married Birdie. Oh, what's that got to do with it? Maybe he's changed. Ever think of that? Maybe he sees you through different eyes.  Owen, let's face it. Your book is now being published by a man who sees his wife in your arms on every page. He thinks that girl in there is Birdie in you.  Birdie meant nothing to me. He doesn't realize that.  And he's a man. Let's get away from here tonight. Tonight? Owen, you blame me, don't you? Oh, not really, Steve. It's just that it's so distracting to have a man's wife as his secretary, too. I've got to try another book fast. Now I'm going to have to get myself another secretary. So I'm fired. Is that it? Oh, Steve, it'll be better for both of us if I work by myself. It'll give you a chance to work on your own book. I'll make dinner. Owen, I finished my book. Oh, you're dead, Will. I'd like to read it. It's been on your dressing room table for two weeks. Oh, well, I'll read it on the train. Don't bother. No, I'm not. You call and get tickets for the train and send Ronnie a wire to get you a new secretary. Mr. Harris told me you found it from the station. Did you have a nice honeymoon? Very nice, thank you. It must be lovely up at the cabin this time of the year. Yes, it is. A Waterbury original? His last. Steve. Hello, Charles. Sit down, won't you? Thank you. Oh, you're looking fine, fine.  None the worse for it. Charles, I want you to do me a favor. This is Owen's latest book. Putin doesn't like it. I want you to read it and let me know what you think about it. I'll try to be as objective as possible. You will be, I know. And I have another manuscript for you. Mine. You finished it. Yes, it was a long, uphill pull. I've changed the title so many times, I finally decided to call it Don's Earning. What does Owen think of it? Owen hasn't read it yet. Oh. He hasn't had time. He's been busy writing. He couldn't concentrate on it. I'll be glad to read both of them. Thank you, Charles. Goodbye, Steve. Goodbye, Charles. It's on the third floor, but a cat found the Waterbury apartment. Well, here's Mrs. Waterbury. How do you do? The employment service sent me over. Oh, Mr. Waterbury wants a new secretary. Oh, is that so? Yes. Well, follow me. Oh, thank you. I know it's going to be so exciting working for Mr. Waterbury. Love it. I know. I will. This is such a rush call. I hardly had time to drink. Oh, thank you so much. You know, I made my own clothes. Oh, really? Yes. Right in, Mr. What did you say your name was? Hilda Schneebacker. Ms. Schneebacker. Oh, darling, this is your new secretary. How do you do? This is my husband, Owen Waterbury, and this is Ronnie, our next-door neighbor. How do you do? Can I get you something to drink? Oh, have you any beer? Well, I should say we have. And we have pretzels, too. What did you ask for on the phone? I thought they knew our account. Dope. Barbara, don't you bring your beer over here where we can be more comfortable? Oh, well, do you do laundry, Ms. Schneebacker? Do shirts and socks. I don't like to do sheets. Well, sit down, please. Are you on handicapping the horses, Ms. Schneebacker? Oh, yesterday I picked two winners. I played them both right on the schnozola. Oh, and I think she's enchanting. Uh-oh. What size coat do you wear? Do you have to wear a coat on the job? Oh, Mr. Waterbury likes to give all his employees mint coats for Christmas. Oh, I wish I'd known that. I could have saved the skunks. I wonder who she means. Will you object working late hours, Ms. Schneebacker? Not at all. A room with a girlfriend. I haven't seen her since new- I'm afraid this job's gonna be a little too much for you. But why are we- Well, you see, several parts of my new novel are mostly in French, and well, I'm sure you don't speak French to your Ms. Schneebacker. Dad, he did for six years. Once I had a French boyfriend, we had no trouble. Yes, but how's your shorthand? Don't take shorthand. You don't take shorthand? Well, no, the agency said this was strictly a typing job. Oh, no. This is mostly a shorthand job. But I could learn it. No, oh, I'm afraid not. That lets me out. Uh, leave the glass, please. That must be the next one. The next one. I told the agency to keep sending them until we said when. How do you do? Is this apartment 3E? Yes, it is. Does Mr. Owen Waterbury live here? Yes, he does. Owen Waterbury. Oh, Mr. Waterbury, the agency sent me. Don O'Malley. That's right. Won't you come in, Mr. O'Malley? Thank you.  Thank you. Oh, this is my wife. How do you do? How do you do? You take shorthand, of course. Yes, 120 words a minute. Oh. Do you speak French, Mr. O'Malley? Mon maire est la paix française. Et mon père aussi. Oh, something. La paix française. Et mon père aussi. Et mon père aussi. Et mon père aussi. Are you married by any chance? Yes, I am. But the divorce comes final next week. I see. When would you like me to begin? You have begun. Oh, thank you. Steve, shall we prepare lunch and leave them alone? I think they'd like to get to work. All right. Tell me, did you ever work for a writer before? Yes, once about three years ago. But I'd rather not talk about it. Oh, well, why not? Well, he asked me to work late one evening and began getting a little fresh. So I called the police. All I want to do is work. I guess the publicity burned his career. But he deserved it. Don't you agree? Yes, I do. How about lunch, Mr. O'Malley? Oh, I've already eaten. Thank you. And you, darling? No thanks. I'll skip lunch today. You'll just love living in this building, Mr. Scott. And you'll just love the Waterbury's. They're so bohemian. Crude. I'll go. This is Waterbury. I want you to meet your new neighbor, Sylvain Scott. He's moving out to the bachelor party upstairs. The police are used to her. Yes, I know, Mr. Scott. Oh, how nice. Come in. Come now. I want you to meet the important member of the family. This is the great Owen Waterbury. Oh, how do you do, Mr. Waterbury? How do you do? This is the... Hello. New secretary. Yes. She was just hired, and I was just fired. Mr. Scott's a writer, too. My building will be just crawling with the... Yes, Mr. Scott and I went to night school together. We sat next to each other. Mr. Scott used to be a ball player. Just look at those shoulders. And then I'll pad it either. Well, what do you know? Sylvain writes that wonderful radio program called John's Mother's Lover. John's Mother's Sweetheart. Oh, yes. Tell me. Confidentially. Is John's Mother going to marry her sweetheart? No. John's father objects. John has no father. Oh, poor John. Sylvain, you'd better rush upstairs and start to work on that radio program. You must neglect John. Well, I'm in a little trouble. You see, my secretary just got married. Oh, what on earth are you going to do? I don't know. I could help you, Sylvain. You, Stephanie? Yes, you see, I was... Mr. Waterbury's secretary before he married me. That's right. You were. Marriage was a bonus. Oh, when could we begin? Why don't you just say, I've begun. Ronnie, dear, would you get me some shorthand books and some pencils? How much do you think you'll be giving me tonight? Well, we may be working most of the night. Well, that's just ducky. I'm used to working at night. Goodbye, darling. Don't work too hard. I won't. Come on. Oh, thank you, Ronnie. Well, I seem to have fixed everything up. You certainly have. Well, I guess I'll run along. Must you go? I was just poisoning the tea.   Watch your hands. I don't tolerate familiarity from anybody, and I mean anybody. I once ruined a man's career.  Why don't you make it a year? But I haven't even begun yet. Oh, that's all right. You get paid just the same. Oh, well, all right. Oh, what time tomorrow? Oh, any old time. Suit yourself. But I don't understand. Well, how about noon? All right. Thank you. Well, you were saying something about poison tea. I don't know. Thank you. Well, you were saying something about poison tea. I mixed it. I get firsties. Now where was I? Sound of footsteps. Three people. Thank you. Sound of footsteps. Three people. Door bang. Door criage. Door slam. Two shots. Three screams. Siren. How does it sound? Well. It's bedlam. John, I'm in love with your mother. And tomorrow, I expect to be your father. John's going to be your father, and I'm the first to know. Now I don't have to listen tomorrow. But father, I'm older than you are. John's older than his father? That's what I'd like to know. I don't know. But don't you worry, Miss Waterbury. I'm not going to do anything. Hello? Hey, they just turned out the lights. Who's calling? This is Charles Harris speaking. I'm sorry to be calling at such a late hour, but I must talk to her. They just turned out the lights. Will you keep quiet? This is her husband. No, she's out for the evening. She's right upstairs. We'll be there. And I don't know when she'll be back. Didn't you hear me? I said they just turned out the lights. Well, I told. I don't care what you do. What's the matter? I'm going to a hotel in case you're interested. I'll go to a hotel after all. This is your apartment. No, it isn't. You pay the rent. Ronnie, will you take this up to Mr. Scott, please?  Why, he's utterly harmless. Boy, you really had me fooled. Why do you say that? Charles Harris just called. Have you seen him, Steve, since we came back? Oh, and it's terribly late. And I don't like cross-examinations. After all, we're two adult human beings, and we should be able to trust one another. Don't smile at the way with pretty words, Steve. Have you been seeing him? Yes. All right, then this is it. But I only saw Charles Harris for one reason. I took him your manuscript. He knows a great many publishers. Please don't. It's too late for that. I felt that the nightclub you were in love with Harris, and I knew he was in love with you. After all, five years is a long time, and I was a fool to think I could break it down. I never loved Charles Harris. Well, you never loved me. You were in love with the schoolgirl notion of a popular novelist. I really tried to play this straight with you, Steve, but I guess I made a beautiful mistake.  Something in your writing, the tone, the feeling, the quality of appeal to me so much that I used to imagine you. Books were written just for me. It's true. I built it up in a schoolgirl way, and I was so caught up in it. I guess I would have married you the night you lectured in class. If you'd stepped off that platform and asked me, I would have married you just like that. How can you talk to me like this? I put you way up there, too, Steve. You tore it down in the cruellest way any woman could. You once called me an egotistical fraud. But what about you, Stephanie Gaylord? What have you been? Go ahead! Hold him! He's waiting for you! All right! Good morning, Mrs. Waterbury. Good morning, L.C. I have an appointment. Yes, I know. Mr. Harris has a surprise for you. Won't you come right in? Steve. Good morning, Charles. Stephanie Gaylord, this is Mr. McNally, Mr. Hudson, Mr. Burke of the Literary Times. How do you do? How do you do? How do you do? So you are Stephanie Gaylord. Sit down, Steve.  Mr. McNally is head of the publishing house in New York. He flew down this morning. That's why I called you so late last night. We've read your book, Miss Gaylord. How long have you worked on it? About five years. I'm recommending it for the McNally-Winslow War for a first novel by an unknown. I didn't know you were going to show my manuscript to anyone. I couldn't do anything else after reading it. But don't you see what this will do to Owen? What has Owen got to do with it? Well, Owen's the big guy in my family, and his novel's just been turned down. If this happens on top of that, it would just about destroy him. He has to have a sense of importance. He's lost all faith in himself. You mean your husband would feel a sense of competition with you? You don't understand, Mr. McNally. Owen's in trouble. And with this Wi-Fi, I have to help him climb out of it. Steve, I thought you wanted to write more than anything else in the world. I thought so, too, before I married Owen. What about Owen's manuscript? Did you read it? Yes. It isn't bad. It's good. But it doesn't have what this has. This has greatness. Thank you very much, gentlemen. Steve, please sit down. I want to talk to you. Giving your pop-overs another try.  No, no, no, Mrs. McNally. That's not the line I gave you. Yes, sir. John, mother, I've changed my mind. I don't like your sweetheart. Mother, well, I like him. That's all that matters. John, as your son, I refuse to approve the marriage. Mother, you're not marrying him. I am. How does that sound? Stinks. Amen. Mr. Hastings, I must say you're distracting. You know, you shouldn't be using Mr. Waterbury's apartment or Mr. Waterbury's secretary. Well, Mrs. Waterbury isn't here, and I've got to get the program out. Why don't you work in your apartment? She won't work upstairs. Then why don't you work without her? I can't. I'm a dictator. Dear, why won't you work upstairs? I don't work in men's bedrooms. It's not a bedroom. It's a bachelor apartment. My husband was a hotel manager. One room is a bedroom. Two or more is an apartment. Sylvan, she's got you there. Oh, come on. Let's work. Hello, Mr. Waterbury. Who are you? Remember me? I'm Debony of the Brand Detective Agency. Oh. What's this? A bill for $845.62. For what? For shadowing and delving into the past of one Stephanie Gaylord. But I'm married her. We've shadowed married women before. Hi, hon. Get rid of this guy. You want me to call the police? I am the police. What's this doing here? That's my laundry. Do you expect my wife to do your laundry? Hey, that's a little large for you, isn't it? That's Mrs. Waterbury's laundry. That's mine. Well, take it and get out of here. And as for you, Mademoiselle O'Malley, you're fired for taking dictation from somebody else. Well, that suits me just fine. I wouldn't work for you even if I did like your horrible writing. Where's Stephanie? I don't know where she is. I know where she is. Where?  Ronnie, do you happen to have $845.62 then? Why don't you write him a check? Oh, yes. Call that number right away. Here's the detailed report. It's very amusing. You see, I had to shadow you at the same time that I shadowed her. Here's Stephanie. Oh, Stephanie, where are you? What? What are you doing? Stephanie, if there were ever any chance of our getting together, this kills it now, finally, and for all time we're through. Charles Harris' apartment. Just like that, no sense of shame. Well, maybe she got her old job back and was working for him at his home. What decent self-respecting girl worked for a man at his home? Maybe she's his secretary. Please, don't tell me about secretaries. He could tell you. Here's the report. Page three is wonderful. All right. Call the employment agency. I'm going to show her. Look, I want a girl this time who's capable and efficient. I'm calling for Mr. Ron Waterbanks. That's typist. I don't care what she looks like. We don't care what she looks like as long as she's attractive. Do you take shorthand? Oh, but of course. A hundred twenty words a minute. And, uh, what did you say your name was? Ms. Pigeon. Her name is Ms. Pigeon. Everybody says I'm flighty. Where did you work before? I'm just out of secretarial school. I think it would be wonderful working for you, Mr. Waterbury. You see, I hope to be a writer myself someday. Oh, have you ever been married? Oh, no. Never. And, uh, you have no objections to working on weekends? Oh, not at all. My time's completely my own. And you think Mr. Waterbury's just wonderful? Mm-hmm. Uh, this is a clay pigeon. I've come for my things. Follow me, Bill. Yeah, I know just where to go.  Right. I knew you'd come back. But it's only for a moment. Where's the mink coat? I didn't get a mink coat. Come into the bedroom, Bill. What's the matter? Short of minks. Hey, haven't you been here before? Sure. I came with the other way. I got a cab stand downstairs now. If you need a cab, just open the window and holler. Well, I'm going to do a lot of hollering now. Uh, that's his former secretary.  Oh, so you're not in love with Harris, but you go to his apartment? You wouldn't let me explain, and now I'm not going to. Explain. What kind of an explanation could you make anyway? Doesn't matter anymore. You're right. It doesn't matter anymore. Isn't she getting awfully personal? But a wonderful typist. Charles Harris is a punk. Just like that. Just like that. Anything else, Miss? Yes, my picture. If I were a man, I'd... If you were a man, I'd ask you to step outside. Go ahead. Hit me. I dare you. Did he slap her? I should say not. She slapped him. I've known all along why you've presented me.   That's your tragedy. My only tragedy is you. I'm going far, far away from here, and I'm going to write a book about you. I'm going to call it The Heal and His Victim. That's a very horrible title. It'll do.  That goes for me, too. Where's Miss Pidget? She, uh, flew the coop. Where do you think Steve's going? I think she's gonna marry Harris. Harris, I'd like to see that little worm. I'm going, too. Now, where are you going? I'm so mad I could get married. You don't think I'll have to? Who are you going to marry? It'll be a female. That's about all I can say. I'd like to see Mr. Harris. Your name? Owen Waterbury. Excuse me, sir. And excuse me. I didn't mean to disturb you and my secretary. Your former secretary? Oh, I didn't know you were in the middle of dictation. Your sarcasm is quite uncalled for. Of course, I don't have to tell you what I think of a man who behaves this way with a secretary. You keep out of this, Elsie. Look, Charles and I are going to be married. Congratulations. What? Just where does that leave my wife?   You never deserved to find a girl with Stephanie anyway.  Your motives are very obvious. You've given me a lot of grief ever since I married Stephanie and I came up here to tan your hide. So put up your hands and defend yourself like a man. Oh, you can't. Nobody's hide.  Why do you think Stephanie came up here in the first place? Because she wrote a novel and Harris wanted to have it published. But she didn't want that. She was afraid it would hurt your vanity and wreck your marriage. She wanted him to help you instead. Oh, look, I've read your last book, The One Fulton Turned Down. It's grand, it's exciting, it's wonderful. Fulton's wrong. He's just jealous because of Birdie and it's all your own fault, Mr. Great Guy.  That's my opinion and you've always valued it. Here, Stephanie's novel. Read that and really get jealous.  She's gone away and it serves you right. I hope I kicked a little sense into you, but I doubt it. Goodbye, Mr. Waterbury. Won't you, Waterbury? Yes. I've got to serve you with these papers. What for? Suit for divorce for Mrs. Waterbury. This is my particular. That thing got out of the elevator. Well, mine's three. What's yours, please? Four C. Isn't that's over in Scott's apartment? Oh, is it? I didn't know who lived there, but, uh, I'm his new secretary. I see. I guess so. Now, have you seen Ronnie around? Well, I haven't seen Mr. Ronnie in about three days. But I heard Telly got married. Married? See, that's funny. He didn't even invite me to the wedding ceremony. Me neither. Ronnie gets married without getting a divorce. Did you know that, Mary? Mrs. Waterbury is divorcing me. I sure was sorry to hear that, Mr. Waterbury. She was an awful nice person. So was you. At times. Well, I see Scott's hiring a new male secretary. Oh, Mr. Scott doesn't live in this building anymore. He moved out yesterday. Oh. Who moved in up there? Mrs. Waterbury. Steve. Yes. She's a big writer now. Well, of all the... I'll make first. She can't do this to me. What can I do for you? Out. I said get out. But I don't understand. Don't you listen to it. This is my wife. You're his wife? I'm trying very desperately not to be. Didn't you get the divorce papers today? You're still my wife until the final decree, and that takes a whole year. Are you still here? I said get out. Mr. Simpson, you come back here tomorrow morning at nine o'clock. You'll come back here never.  Hiring male secretaries right under my nose. Right over your nose, dear. And don't be cute at a time like this. Why did you take this apartment anyway? Because it was the only one I could find and Mrs. Reeves was kind enough to let me have it. Oh, sure, sure.  But my living here need cause us no embarrassment. We can be friends, meet in the hallway, and exchange polite little hello. I exchanged polite little hello with your friend Harris recently. Elsie was there. She told me all about your book. Oh, you didn't want to have it published because of what it might do to me. Oh, silly.   I read your book last night. Kept me up most of the night. You want to know something? Yes. You're better than I am. But don't tell anybody because I'll deny it. Now you listen to me, Mr. Owen Waterbury. I'm a human being too, and I have certain rights and privileges. I had an idea for a book, and you made me lose a very good secretary. Oh, look, why don't you dictate it to me? You? Sure, I can take shorthand. Oh, and what a very... Look, you want to know a secret? What? I'm a better secretary than you are. Oh. All right, prove it. Get the shorthand book and pencil. Okay. And I don't want to hear another word about our personal problems until I get this down. Let's call this... Notes on My New Novel by Stephanie Gaylord. This will be the story of a girl who became secretary to a very egotistical man who thought he knew everything there was to know about writing. Oh, now wait a minute, Steve. Please, please. You're interrupting my train of thought. He was attractive in an ugly sort of way. Thanks a million. Will you please stop interrupting me?  Now wait a minute, Steve. I'm not going to sit here and take down this... Listen, this is my new book. Until she suddenly discovered he didn't need a wife. He needed a psychiatrist. A psychiatrist? That does it. Now I'm insane. Am I? Okay. I'll sue you. You just go ahead and sue me if you think I'm... You know, this book sounds very interesting, but there's one thing I've got to know. Did she love him? Well, of course she loved him. She loved him deeply, devotedly, desperately. Then why didn't you say so? I've, uh, I've come for the rent. Ronnie is your new landlord. Oh, no, no. That pos belongs up there. And this belongs here. Oh, Ronnie, no. Ronnie, no. Come on.


In today's video, we're going to be searching for these big bass on some big worms. Let's get it. That's a big one, dude. That's a big one. Oh my gosh, that's how I want you to eat it. Oh, I got him. That's a good one, guys. Oh my gosh, that's a big one. Oh. Oh, not a bad one, dude. Yo, what's poppin', boys and girls, ladies and gents. Welcome back to another episode of Kicking the Bass TV. If you guys are new to the channel, hit that subscribe button, hit the notification bell, also hit the like button. If you guys have been enjoying the content today, we're out here at this beautiful little pond. It's pretty cool because we're going to be filming some bank fishing content like the next few days. And then like on Wednesday of this week and Thursday, we're going to be practicing for a tournament. So we'll be on the boat and then we'll film a tournament video. So we have a lot of good content dropping this week. So if you guys aren't too big into the bank fishing content, just know that we have some river and boat content and tournament content coming this week. We're actually out at this beautiful pond. This is somewhere we haven't been to. Old Cody's got the hook up on this place and we got to come out here and try it out for the first time. I'm actually going to be using some big worms today for some big bass. That's the big plan. The last time we filmed a big worm video was on the river. And today we're going to be taking some big worms to the ponds and trying to catch some big ones. So we're going to go ahead and get started, get rigged up, start casting out here and see if we can catch a really big one today. I hope you guys have been enjoying the videos. I really appreciate the support recently. We got some banging content coming soon for y'all. So let's go ahead and get it started. We talked about fishing big worms today. I stopped by Dick's Sporting Goods this morning and got a little bit of tackle, so I'm going to show you guys. All right, let's see what we got. I got some hooks. We actually got some five-ots. When I'm using like big worms, especially 10 to 12 inches, I like to use five-ot extra wipe gap hooks. We got some bullet weights right here. These are like the only ones I can find, which I'm not the biggest fan of them, but recently these are the only ones that I'm being able to run into. I also got some four-out hooks right here, but we can use that for something else. And then the worms that I got for today's video, we have some, a natural color, green pumpkin magic. It's just a regular green pumpkin color, and it's got a lot of gold glitter in it, a bunch of black glitter as well. It's a good little natural color, just a standard green pumpkin. And then we got right here is a plum color. And I'll call a lot of big fish on a plum, big plum worm. So that's the two colors I ended up buying. We're going to go give it a shot today. By the way, if you guys want to check out any of the rods I use in the video, there's also a lot of the striking baits that I use. I have the link down below with the discount code. You guys can go check that out. I really appreciate it. But that's the baits that we got. We also have some extra special stuff in here, but I don't know if I want to show you guys yet. You're going to have to see some of the upcoming videos to see what's in this bag, because we have some juicy stuff, some really cool baits. Stay tuned for that. Turn on the post notifications. Hit the like button. This content is coming soon. All right, I heard me throwing our kick and combo today. Cody, what is that? What is it? It's your little rage pincher. You want a bite? A pincher. Want a little bite?  That is the worst feeling in the world. Did you see that? Yeah. It's out of every single island. But yeah, we're going to be running the new kick and the best combo. I know I haven't told you guys much about the release date on this. I'm going to be having some updates coming very soon. I'm working on something in the background that I'm going to be able to get these out to you guys sooner than later. So just stay tuned for that. Follow me on IG, by the way. I'm kicking their bass TV. I have a lot of updates that I post on there between the posts and the stories. So that's like another place. I'm going to be honest. If you guys want to know about the combos you need to follow me on IG, IG is probably going to be the first place I end up posting all this. I'll end up posting in a YouTube video the same day. But IG is just a little easier, a little faster to figure out everything. We're going to go ahead and rig this up. It's loading up on my rod. This is 17 pound fluorocarbon and I actually just put on some new fluor before I came out here today. We end up bass fishing like we bass fish so much. You really got to change your line a good bit. We'll go out on maybe three or four fishing trips between like the river and your bank fishing or Johnbo fishing. Next thing you know all our lines bad. So I'll change it out a good bit. I'm going to get one bullet weight. Get us one of these five odd extra wide gap hooks. Tie this bad boy on with a uni knot. Center on down. Tag in. So we have two different colors.  I think I'm going to start off with the plum. It's a pretty color. I had a lot of luck with it. So if you guys are wondering how we rig this up just like any other standard Texas rig bait you know if you're throwing a crawler or a worm or anything. Get the head of the hook. Go right into the bait. We're going to break it through. Slide it all the way up onto the front of the hook and we rotate the bait around. Notice this. Rotate the bait around. Slide it all the way up on the hook. You guys want to know an accurate way of penetrating the hook and the bait. So this worm is it flush. You line the worm up with that hook right there and this backside of the hook is where you're going to put the point. All right. So the backside of the hook lines up right here on the worm. That's where we're going to penetrate it. I bury that point and there we go. It's perfectly flush. Just to show it with the weight. That's the rig that we're using today. I won't talk about it much but like in the summer guys when it's super hot a big worm gets bit. I mean it's just one of my favorite baits to throw in the summer especially for some really big bass.  So we're out at this place. I've never been here before and usually what I do when I come out to a new pond. I like to kind of just look at it right. I look at it. I'm like you know what what is it. You know what I can tell is down this bank I got a lot of vegetation. I like these little reeds down this bank. It's a good spot for bass to sit up on right. One thing I do notice too is there's a bunch of wind pushing on this bank so I can almost predict that there's going to be bass set up on this side. Another thing that I pay attention to is I make a lot of casts out there and figure out where these deep parts are.  So the main thing that I'm going to do right now is walk down this bank make a lot of casts and just try to figure out what these fish are doing. Try to figure out where they're positioned and then we can really hone in and start catching them really good. It's actually really shallow in this pocket. I got one. Not a big one. The first fish today baby. Oh big worm. It's so funny how these little guys bite this thing. It's fishing no bigger than that worm. What is that? There's no way that's a bluegill. Dude.  What? That is probably one of the biggest bluegill I've ever caught.  Oh my god it's bigger than the bass look at this. I was on a worm. That was on a crawfish. Look at that dude. It's not even right. Dude that's crazy. Well you got our first fish. Little bass little bluegill. Here goes the bass. Where did he go? Oh nice. Well nothing big but we got a fish and Cody got himself like a big bluegill. That was funny. I don't know we're gonna go down this bank and I'm just trying to see if we can find some deeper water. It's like really shallow up on the bank. There's not like really any cover anywhere either. I mean you got some vegetation up on the bank but like I said it's so shallow. I don't know. Let's like find some deeper water. Oh gosh. Dude he ate it right away. I watched him eat it.  Wait wait wait. Dude Cody throw right there. He took my worm. There's so many bro. There's like five. Just throw right there where I lost him. There was like a two pounder that ate it and it just came off. Dude there's so many fish. You come off? Dude there's so many fish right here dude. Oh that's why I was walking. Take your hook and everything. No I didn't take my hook. You got him? All right I'm gonna double up with you. Maybe I might be caught in your line. Yeah I got one. Dude there's so many of them right here bro. That's a decent one. I ate that worm good.  Oh dude we're on him. Right there though. Where's your captive? There's so many dude.  There's so many fish. I had some bigger ones following me out dude. The one that took my worm. Yeah I got another one. Dude it's like I had them on Cody and I pulled the worm away from him and there was like a school of them fighting over it. Oh they're loaded dude. I don't know where he went but he's in the shade somewhere. He got me.  Dude that is that is insane.  This fish is so aggressive. Well these are not the size we're looking for guys but we're starting somewhere. We're starting somewhere. Thank you bubba. They're all over the edge of those flats. That's literally where they're at. That was literally a fish stick. You just put that in the oven with some breading and that's a fish stick. Dude I just had a fish stick on. Oh you're chasing me. Look at this fish stick. Oh I see it. That worm's just so big. It's bigger than the bass dude. Oh that's a decent one I think. It's a better one. They are munching this worm. I will say that they're not much. There's nothing to them but they are munching this worm. He's got big mouth on them don't he? Yeah he does.  They're not much but you know what I always say guys you got to start somewhere and we're going to keep walking around this. If we're going to keep catching some small ones we're going to get to another spot but we're going to give it a good solid try. There's a lot of fish out here. I see one swimming right here but he's so small. That's a bluegill. Yeah we might as well have some fun with these small ones while we're here. Might as well. Hey that's a better one. Yeah this is a deep bank. Not a bad one. Still not big but better than those little swing twinkies gear down that fall out. This bank's a little bit deeper I can tell. You've been right up on the big. It's not flat at all. We gave it a shot. We're lost dude. Alright guys we just got out to a new pond. There's some big ins in here so we're going to check around this big worm. I'm actually going to try on this one. This is the green pumpkin one that I have.  I think we're going to have an opportunity to catch a really big one so I'm pumped about it. We're just going to have to make a lot of casts. There's a few ponds here that we can fish and I just really want to hook like a good eight pounder on this worm. I don't think it's possible so let's go cover some water and see if we can get it done. Oh my gosh. Monster Kody. God dang it. It's like a six seven pounder dude. Dude man. I just I couldn't move him dude. It was such a big fish. Oh man. Like I threw it out there and I just kind of like felt him just kind of grab it right. I could tell that he ate the rest and he was just walking with it and I hooked that and I felt how big he was. Dude that was did you see him? I saw the berry tail. Dude he was every bit of six seven pounds. Gosh. There's more though. There's more to be caught. That's just aggravating man. First bite since we've been here. It's been a second but you know we're going to get the bites. It might take us a second but usually if you get a bite you know it can be a good one. That was a freaking monster. It's all good dude. We'll get another bite. I felt like a dang fish. Yeah he's got it.  That's a good one dude. Nice fish. Hey. Not bad. Grab your worm. There's a lot right here. Having him by me. I haven't had another. That's a big one. Oh he's not that big. Couldn't move him though. Finally got one to eat that worm right. Nice little fish. It's all a pound and a half are fat. Healthy. Look at that. It's better than those ones we were catching in that first pond. It's got to start somewhere. Lost a freaking mega but got to get one on the bank. Thank you buddy. Oh that's got hit. Oh there he is. That's how I want you to eat it. Not a bad one. Not a big one. Not a bad one. Thank you bud. Look at how he ate that worm. I'm looking for your momma. Your grandmomma. All right buddy.  Oh my god that fish was so heavy dude. Pull my worm right off man. He hit that thing so good. Pretty sure I stuck him too. I mean I fell all the way to that fish. That was a freaking good one. I don't know if he's just three pounds or five pounds but that was a hefty fish. I'm going to get another one of these worms on. We'll throw back in there. There might be more. So you got this pipe right here and it's pushing out a lot of current. You know these fish right here are replenished and stack up on this real good. I threw really close to the right hand side which is a little bit of rock. It's like big concrete blocks right there. Let's even get another cast. Yeah right there that's where he bit it. Gosh that was a good little bite too. Got a little nibble. Oh I got him. That's a good one guys. Oh my gosh it's a big one. No is he? He's fighting that current. It might be that current. Oh that's a good one. Not a five pounder but that's a dang good one. Look at that guys. Look at that bass. Oh that's fun right there. That's the biggest one that we're about to land right here so far. He's such a fighter. I don't know if he's just because he's in that current. Dude that's a good one. That is a hefty little two pounder right there. Look at that. Nice dude. That's a good fish. Got a lot of catching these fish man especially some good ones like this. And this thing fought like a dang five pounder. You got to love that.  Thank you buddy. Appreciate you. There he goes. Get him. Yeah he's running with it. Oh gosh Katie. That seemed like a pretty big one. It's like a three pounder. Dang that's a good one dude. Look at that one. That's a good fish. Not that good. That's pretty good one dude. Yeah. Isn't that current? Yeah. Just grip him hard. Grab him. There you go. You got him perfect on the top of the mouth dude. Yeah I had a few bites Cody. I had one dude. I thought it was really big and he just came off. He's like two number but they cast before. I had a good one. That's like a three pounder. Oh I got one too. Nice. Oh they're good fish. That's a good bass. You got a little double up going. Katie's got her like a three pounder. I got me a solid two number. Slammed it pretty good. Right there in that current. It's crazy because Cody just came over here and fished this. You're fishing it and you caught a few in it. That current man. Let's see if you can get one. Fish bump it. Nice. Here we go. Oh nice. Some good little fish. How big? That's a good one. That one guys. That's a freaking toad. Yeah it's throwing that big worm. What color is that worm? That's a it's like a green pumpkin magic.  Yeah I think they like it dude. Yeah I think they like it. That's a big one. Nice dude. Dude I got a one under his stomach. Oh my god there's a fish with him even bigger. Wait I didn't hook him under his stomach. It's a nice bass. Not a giant one but it's a nice bass. All right buddy let me get you off. I think there was one with him. Like a big one. Pretty little fish though. We had a good time guys.  Caught some good little fish.  We sure would have got that big one on my first bite out here but guys I enjoyed this video. If you guys did please hit that like button. If you guys are new to the channel hit that subscribe button and I will catch you guys in the next episode of Kicking the Bastard.