whether it was two anti-tank missiles launched at an Israeli, we're standing now in the western part of the Israel Lebanon border, but also earlier there were rockets launched towards the northern part of Israel, also towards this area. And so currently the situation over the past hour, hour and a half, tents quiet, but indeed with the sound of Israeli surveillance drones buzzing overhead all the while, we know that that could change in a moment's notice. What about local residents?  We know some communities have virtually cleared out, which is anathema, I know to many people there. This is not the nature of the people living in the north to pick up and leave their home. It's nonetheless, that's been the recommendation of the army. So there's no official evacuation called for the border communities. There were, there was throughout the morning for many hours a stay at home alert and to stay inside or in the vicinity of the secure zones in each one's house. But that was relieved for all the border communities, except for two. And that also indicates the level of high alert that has been here throughout the day, with also suspected attempted infiltrations that have been refuted by the IDF, but a very tense situation up here. Given mainly that this, today, the claim of responsibility by Hisballah for launching the two anti-tank missiles is the fourth attack that they have claimed responsibility for since Saturday. And that is the biggest chain of events that we've seen from Hisballah since the 2006 second. Okay, along those lines, Ariella, and I know you have, you're closely on events in Lebanon here.  What can we read about the way they're looking at the situation right now? Well, there's the way they're looking and the way they're acting. The way they're looking, unfortunately, we don't have a direct access to that, but in terms of what they're doing on the ground, we see they're trying to maintain this low level of tension, of escalation with these daily skirmishes and exchanges of fire along the border. That is a dangerous situation because as long as this continues, it will only go in one direction of escalation and any incident could flare up and really change the situation here along the border. Obviously, this is determined by how many casualties there are on each side, but we see a steady effort by Hisballah in recent days to try and maintain the level of violence and escalation up here on the Israel-Ebnan border. It's moving in one direction and that's up, meaning it's becoming more violent and so this has Israeli forces very vigilant. I mean, we were driving here from Nahariah a few hours ago and we passed multiple military checkpoints. Checkpoints that on a day-to-day are not there and that's because there is a huge military presence here in the area, like checkpoints like the one we're standing right now in front of and this also comes in preparation for potential escalation on the border, but mainly given the understanding of the different conclusions following what happened on Saturday morning in another area with border communities alongside an enemy that on Saturday was across the Gaza border and unfortunately the fate there of many of the residents and soldiers was completely horrific. Ararosa, thanks for breaking it down. Yes, we can see some of the IDF activity around you there just securing the roads, being prepared for anything. It appears to the north and we take our attention back to the south area. This open battlefield around the Gaza Strip now where our correspondent, Hamd Al-Sahut, has been providing us updates. We'll be up in a moment here. Well, certainly we'll bring that to you just a moment, small technical issues here, but this has been the story obviously for days now focused on the south and really the entire surrounding of the Gaza Strip now up to and including large towns of tens of thousands of residents like Stay wrote. And it focused for so many years of rocket fire. But again, just the situation that has been ongoing and evolving there, our correspondent brings it to us. Renewed rocket fire in several Southern communities. We've heard several big explosions overhead at the same time the Israeli military continues to strike targets inside of the Gaza Strip. The military releasing a statement saying that it struck the Islamic university in Gaza saying that it served Hamas as engineers as a base and they were there to get training and learn how to do other types of work that would benefit Hamas in weapons manufacturing. Now Palestinians are disputing this. This is an institution that thousands of Palestinians go to one of the only universities inside of the Strip at this hour. We're also hearing from reporters inside of the West Bank that Gazans that were able to flee to the West Bank are now sheltering in a government building in the city of Ramallah that has been completely turned into a shelter for these people seeking refuge At the Rafa crossing at the south of the Gaza Strip it has seen continued bombardment. Palestinians who are dual nationals either American or European citizens were looking to flee from this crossing the Israeli military days ago advising civilians to leave if they could. Now thousands of Palestinians are stuck saying that they're unable to leave. The Egyptians also sending a message to Israel saying they want to send an aid. The Palestinians sending that message as well but Israel saying that they will bomb any trucks that reach the border to aid. As the Defense Minister Yoav Gallant ordered a complete blockade on the Gaza Strip cutting off water, cutting off electricity. The Gaza energy ministry is saying that their power plant will shut down later today because of the lack of a fuel that they have and because they're not able to bring in this fuel they're warning of a humanitarian crisis ahead. Hamdas al-Hut, I-24 News in the south of Israel. We're trying to give you updates about what's happening in and around Steyrout. You got the Gaza update right there. Again, all that according to Hamas's PR arm and health ministry in Gaza. So we truly don't have a clear picture of what's going on in and around the Gaza Strip at this hour. And the IDF by all accounts has just begun to embark on a campaign focused on Hamas and their infrastructure and their presence in the Gaza Strip which will come to an end at the end of this operation by all accounts. But in short, what is happening around southern Israel here now the IDF has continued to comb all these communities killing 18 terrorists just in the last day in and around Steyrout and these communities. Again, inside Israel, these battles continuing to take place. And as you see from the grim images here coupled with those still sporadic battles with terrorists is the body collection. Again, of thousands, hundreds more still littering these communities where you can see the atrocities carried out in cold blood for hours and hours against these civilians. So this is probably the dominant operation of IDF troops in the region. Now you see everyone pitching in a hand to try to collect just the bodies of all ages living in these communities. This is still the phase we are in, in the South regaining control of the border region looking at the next steps. We'll be right back after with much more here on the situation, certainly in southern Israel. And again, following this, if you're joining us again we try to continue up to any of you on everything taking place here. The numbers continuing to rise in grim fashion is just coming to light just becoming clear by the hour. The IDF moving into these communities so recently liberated from that Hamas invasion turning out to be a staggering scale at least 1,500 bodies of killed Hamas fighters retrieved in these settlements teach in these communities all around Gaza. In other words, speaking to the enormity of that invading force and the ongoing infiltration attempts taking place. The army has been in a nonstop campaign in and around those communities looking for ways to secure it once again. And on the home front though, at the same time it seems to be mobilizing at a pace now that perhaps one would expect in its right here. Levichat or one heart, it's a nonprofit providing assistance and crisis including abroad. Following the devastation as we've detailed in the South, the organization opened a special headquarters to directly help the affected residents and the soldiers alike. Here's more. What looks like a big pile of trash here in the old city of Bersheba is in fact a huge control center consisting of dozens of volunteers who came here to help the people of the South. Ever since the Hamas attack early Saturday morning people from all over the country came to take part in this initiative organized by the one heart nonprofit organization. Everything they need from equipment, from grabbing bodies, sorry to say, for making sure that people that want to evacuate we handle more than 7,000 missions only yesterday, okay? So it's everything that you can imagine and of some of the things I cannot even speak. The volunteers here are working around the clock and some even sleep in this improvised headquarters. The country is in a state of war right now so we are taking part of this joint effort. Perhaps it is a way to handle the situation here to be active and to work. We feel that we are in the right place and that we are doing what we are supposed to do in this stage. Around the compound there's a crowd of people who came to support and donate equipment to soldiers and citizens in need. But the organization is also assisting the residents of the South on the ground. 19-year-old Tomer Chalik, who was one of the first volunteers here, tells us of his part in helping the survivors of Saturday's deadly attack on the Nova Rave Party. We got here on Saturday and started to create this unit. Then we came to the field and helped the survivors of the party. We gathered around 370 people who lost contact with their families. We gathered many residents of Bershiva who agreed to give a ride to these people and they helped them get home. Activists and volunteers of one heart feel fulfillment on one hand for helping people in need, but on the other they know there is so much more to be done as Southern Israel continues to feel the effects of the Hamas terror attack. Now it is becoming more and more uplifting to see how the entire country coming out right now to respond to this devastation. And we go to our Emily Francis, now they're corresponded who's out in Tel Aviv. Emily, so important to see just the nature of everyone coming out right now. What do you describe the volunteer activities that you're there to witness today? It's honestly, it's absolutely incredible. Me personally, I've never seen anything like this. This is the third location that we're out just this morning. This isn't something that was planned and publicized. People find a way of knowing where to go to volunteer during these very challenging times. So right now I'm at the Asif Culinary Institute of Israel, which is about two years old. Come walk with me. It's actually a learning center. Students are here. It's a center that was actually established to help merge. It's a nonprofit, the different kinds of culinary styles within Israel. It's education platform and whatnot. All these volunteers are here using the kitchen and doing everything possible with donated food, with food that they're providing themselves to put it together and to get a team to deliver these meals to those in need, which is all over Israel. We've now seen this. It's just the infectious way that the Israeli people find a way in a time of crisis to remain as calm as possible. And instead of focusing on the negative, focusing on what we could do to help them around the community. So who better to talk to than Michal Levitt, who is the director of the program here? First of all, thank you for letting us come here unannounced and opening your doors to be able to share with our viewers all over the world. What is really going on? So explain a little bit more, please. So thank you for coming here. You don't need to go into the microphone. Yeah, okay. Ah, okay. All right. So thank you for coming here and sharing this, what we're doing here. So Asif Culinary Institute of Israel is a nonprofit organization. And what we do usually is promoting and assisting the food culture of Israel to actually flourish. And we do a lot of pop-ups here. So on Sunday morning, when everyone woke up after the Saturday that we were shocked and we were unable to move, and everyone were like, what are we going to do? So we have this amazing kitchen and many people just came to us and asked us, can we come and cook? And our friend Gil Akerman who is here has this amazing catering and amazing crew of volunteers. And we're all cooking here together and sharing this beautiful food for soldiers and hospitals and people who are in need right now. And there's so many of these. So yeah, I guess it just organically grew. It's amazing. Literally, this goes back to your initial question. How does this happen so fast and so efficiently? Can you explain, as an Israeli, I was not born and raised here, what is it about the spirit of Israelis that have lived through war after war about picking up the bootstraps and doing what we need to do?  Why is this so important for the world to see? Because the world is seeing the images, the world is not seeing our lived experience. So if you could put that into words for our viewers. Yeah, I think food puts us together as a community. And again, people are feeling we need to do something. And we're not going to fight right now when we're not there, we're here in Tel Aviv. And we want to support the people. We want to support the injured. So I think there's nothing like food to comfort people and to strengthen the community and to strengthen their... You know, we say in Hebrew, the spirit of life. So it's not only food to survive, it's actually food to prosper and to understand that life has a meaning. And people are so traumatized. And I think what we're witnessing here in Israel is the crazy collective trauma. We're all traumatized right now. We're all shocked. And it's also healing for us to cook and to support. All right, Mikhail Leavitt, thank you so much for explaining this so well. You heard it here firsthand. This is the heart and the soul of the Israeli spirit during times of war. And we're going to go back to the studio now. But look at these, look at these beautiful protos. It looks good. It's getting me hungry. Emily, so incredible to think of the people who will be touched by this. And I'm right there nodding along with you as she's explaining the situation. It is absolutely touching on a great element of the society, the community that's emerging right now. Emily Francis, thanks for giving me a say. Important look, just the beginning of how the country is rising up in the face of the massive defeat we experienced down there. And we have another angle to bring in here now and joined by a special guest. And I'm really lucky to be joined by them, Tal Khartouf, the survivor of a Hamas attack now joining us from Nefaseo Tio near Jerusalem. Thanks for being with us. Firstly, if you're okay with this, I think it's important for our viewers to understand, if you can tell us about the attack personally that you survived. Of course, and thank you for having me on your show and keep up the really great work. 13 years ago, I'm a Jewish, Israeli, British-born tour guide and I was taking a Christian-American client on a hike on Shabbat in the state of Israel for those people who don't know near Bed Shemish. And it was there in one of the most beautiful places in our country that we were accosted by two machete-wielding Hamas terrorists who haven't stoned us and held us at knife point for half an hour. Our lives are swinging in the balance. And I'm sorry, it's so hard for me to talk about it. I'm gonna get it. Absolutely, take your time. Sure, can I smoke in the interview? No, really. No problem. Anyway, so I don't know, you know, there's not words. There's no words in these kinds of atrocities. And it's even hard now to find the right words 13 years later, but our lives are hanging in the balance. I'm confused. Sorry, I know we Jews aren't politically correct, but I peed my pants. I'm sweating.  I don't know what these terrorists want, okay?  He just took away my knife, right? So, and because I stabbed him and he didn't stab me back, this adds to the confusion. But after half an hour, they get my backpack and they start going through my stuff and they take out my ID. And they can see I'm Israeli and I'm Jewish. And I guess from that, they assume that my Christian American client, Christine Lucan, is also an Israeli. I mean, Christine couldn't say anything. She was too terrified as well. So then the things, it heats up, you know? They tell me to take off my shoes. They take out my shoelaces. They tie our hands behind our back. And then they take off Christine's fleece. They're hacking it out with their machetes. They gag us. They take off my maginda vid. And then I got to tell you then, and I got to add something to this after, but they separate us by two meters and they push us on our knees. I have to say this. They don't say free Palestine, okay? Didn't hear any word about Palestine. They said, Allah wakhbar, it's bahul al-yod. Allah is great slaughter the Jews. And then they start slaughtering. They start butchering. And I'm on my side.  And he's leaning on me. And I'm telling you, he is plunging that machete so hard into me, I can hear my bones crunch. And it's getting stuck in bone. And I can hear him exasperated because he's having to try and tug out the knife. And then another time, I can hear my skin rip. I know when it's going in an organ and when it's, I'm thinking at the time I was 46 years old. One of the thoughts is I am 46 and I'm being murdered. This is in Hazoui, and of course, I don't know how to say Hazoui, but this- Indescribable. It was so, yeah, thank you. It's, and then I had to make, and this is the hard, I mean it's all hard, but I had to make a choice. And I knew that the only chance I had was to play dead.  And I'm just laying there on my side and two meters away. I watch my American Christian friend chopped up like a vegetable.  She's saying, Jesus, help me.  And after 13 stab wounds and numerous injuries, they leave, but they come back to do a viduyari guy, you know, like to check if he's dead. To make sure you're dead, yeah. Yeah, they turned me on my back and now I'm looking, you know, I'm looking up at these pines. It's the most beautiful sunset coming on. Absolutely listless. And the next thing I see is this silhouette of his hand and this jagged machete. And it covers the sun. And I watch him, I watch him plunge it into my chest and that one missed my heart by four millimeters. Now they think they've, I'm dead and they leave and then I have one last, one last, I need to drink a water, so we'll be all right. One last commitment in life. And that is to get up and die near or where I parked the car so the police could find my body and somehow gagged and bound, I've got bones coming out of me. I managed to stand and I turned my back what's left of Christine Lucan. And step by step, you know, I'm trying to walk back through the forest and just get nearer where somebody can find my body. And I'm so freezing cold from the shock and the lack of blood, but I managed to find help. And I did this walk, it was over a mile at 13 machete wounds, over 30 broken bones. I had bones splintered in my lungs and diaphragm. I had a collapsed lung. I had a crushed sternum. I had a dislocated shoulder, a broken shoulder blade, other injuries too. And I walked a mile and the end of the story is of course, Christine had been murdered. And it was due to me stabbing him that the police were able to extract his blood on my blood's soaked shirt. They got the DNA and they apprehended them within 24 hours. And then they confessed to murdering another Israeli, Neta Blatzel, 10 months previously. And I must say this because I don't know how much time we have and this is so important to me. And I will definitely send you the footage and you can blast it all over your channel, all right? Israeli TV did a documentary, a chilling and very nuanced documentary about this attack. And they included in the 40 minute documentary, which is called Black Forest, which I subtitled with the help of amazing friends into English. They included part of the actual shizor, like the reconstruction and in Israel, I have to say, we bring back the murderers to the crime scene. So these are not actors. And you can see it for yourself from their own lips. The Shabbat, the Secret Service, the police, they're walking with the terrorists and they say, why did you choose this place? He answers, we wanted a kill. Kill who? Choose. So our man says, but why? And he says, no reason, just because. And that is the essence of these pogroms and these crimes against humanity and these war crimes that we are experiencing at the moment. It is about centuries and centuries of the murder of innocent Jews. And I have to say, before I'm accused of being an Islamophobic from all kinds of strange people who troll me, it was a Muslim surgeon who saved my life. Wow, this is staggering on so many levels. Look, we have just about a minute left here with you, Tal. This has propelled you into helping others deal with the trauma to make you, there's so many other suffering. It's propelled me in the sense that I know I'm articulate. I didn't speak about this for three years. It was just too traumatic. I spoke in the UN, I spoke around the world and I always spoke about the American, European tax funders paying my would-be murderers, all right? So we shouldn't be caught by surprise by this, all right? They're being encouraged by these Western governments for years. It's just going on, my boys are getting thousands. So it hasn't encouraged me in any sense of humanitarian acts at the moment, but I realized even though I don't like speaking about this, my people, your people, our people are under the most heinous, existential attack since the state of Israel was born. And that is what propels me to speak. And I'll do it, and I'll do it with any interview media channel that will have me, people need to know what terrorism does. Tal Khartouf, running out of time, running to a live break here, speechless. Let's say to your account here, I really thank you for having the fortitude to come on and share it with our viewers around the world who care deeply about the situation, trying to learn for themselves. Thank you again. We'll be right back. Israel is at war. Since the early hours of the morning, Israel has been facing infiltrations of terrorists, kidnapping of Israelis, and a barrage of thousands of rockets emanating from the Gaza Strip, the biggest and bloodiest attack in years. Tune in for our extensive and rolling coverage of the Hamas deadly attack on Israel. With reporters on the ground in depth analysis and most updated and accurate information, stay tuned with I-24 News. 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Now, part of that war, as we've secured our southern front in and around the communities surrounding the Gaza Strip, is now pushing increasingly into Hamas territory, that being the Gaza Strip. And this is live imagery now of scenes from Gaza where one building in particular, just as an example, we wanna give you has just been warned by the Israel Defense Force. Again, issuing phone calls to the area, to those about to be struck, telling the residents to exit the areas, giving them time, in fact, adequate time to do so if they choose. Again, the buildings inside here, and we know one of those warnings has just been issued, but given this is what's been taking place in all the strikes in the last day or so, here's an example of it from the IDF, this is their phone call. This video was taken by my wife, Bareh, at 3.30, the police arrived on the people of the region around the southern front, and it was clear to them that we wanted to destroy the region. There's some testimony, again, how the IDF is calling residents of these areas, giving them time to get out, telling them the strikes are coming. So again, this is the situation, as we know it at this point. But the world is watching and this type of thing is significant in terms of our intentions and what we're out to do in Israel, and it's been uplifting, encouraging even to see this and feel the support of so many in the international community right now, and it's hard to overstate perhaps the importance of President Biden and the speech he delivered last night, providing unequivocal support and alliance with Israel in this dire moment, with enemies circling in so much innocent blood, deliberately spilled by terrorists, it's indispensable to us in this moment to have the president step up in such a way. So here's some from an arguably unprecedented speech by U.S. president. This was an act of sheer evil. More than 1,000 civilians slaughtered, not just go slaughtered in Israel. Among them at least 14 American citizens killed. Parents butchered using their bodies to try to protect their children. Stomach-turning reports of babies being killed. Entire families slain. Young people massacred while attending a musical festival to celebrate peace, to celebrate peace. Women raped, assaulted, paraded as trophies. Families hid their fear for hours and hours, desperately trying to keep their children quiet to avoid drawing attention. And thousands of wounded, alive but carrying with them the bullet holes and the shrapnel wounds and the memory of what they endured. The Department of Defense has moved the USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group to the Eastern Mediterranean and bolstered our fighter aircraft presence. And we stand ready to move in additional assets as needed. Let me say again, to any country, any organization, anyone thinking of taking advantage of this situation, I have one word, don't, don't. Our hearts may be broken, but our resolve is clear. That's a lot to digest there. If you haven't heard that speech in its entirety, I encourage you to do so. It's from wall to wall. Full of support for us here in this dire time. We're joined in the studio now by Daniel Pomerance, a legal expert, political analyst and the CEO of Reality Check. They don't think we're being with us. Look, a lot to discuss about how the world and the reactions coming up. But first on your view on where, the important place it appears of where President Biden sort of set the bar, say for internal US discussion on this, for perspective, for the wider US action. What did you read from, what the president laid out there? Well, the president was unequivocal, which is important. He also said another phrase, which didn't make your clip. I mean, open my phone, excuse me, I never do this on air. All of it is worth quoting. But we get such a fast pace today. No, and all of it's worth quoting. He said a lot of incredible things. He did, but in particular, this is what I wanna share. He said Hamas does not stand for the Palestinian people's right to dignity and self-determination. Its stated purpose is the annihilation of the state of Israel and the murder of Jewish people. This is an important point. There are no sides here. If you are on the Palestinian side, you should be opposing Hamas. If you're on the Israeli side, you should be opposing Hamas. There is no side that should be supporting this. But sadly, that's not exactly what we're seeing. No, it's not. And the president, we're glad that people in places like the president, the people who matter, I could argue, are talking the way they're talking. But we're seeing a lot of outpouring of quite the opposite of this, right? We are indeed, you know, Harvard University. 31 student organizations at Harvard issued a letter blaming. 31 different groups. 31 different organizations at Harvard coordinated on a letter, blaming the October 7th attacks on Israel. We saw similar letters coming out from dozens of universities throughout the United States at NYU, excuse me, at Columbia. There were celebrations. There were protests in Times Square. We're not talking about blaming bad policies. We're talking about blaming Israel as in they deserve the attack that they got. Well, if they are blaming Israel in the way that they are saying, because Israel has set the stage and created the conditions, this is the inevitable result. Now, first of all, that's not true. Second of all, even if it were true, it is not an appropriate excuse for this. But more importantly, and this is what was really disturbing, because you know, there's always gonna be someone somewhere saying something. The university administration at Harvard refused to condemn it, and even when the alumni association spoke up, they took what was essentially a neutral position. Now, this is exactly the kind of neutrality that Elie Wiesel was talking about when he said neutrality benefits the oppressor and never the oppressor. This is what John F. Kennedy meant when he said the reason that there is evil in the world is because good men do nothing. And it's also what the poet was talking about during the Holocaust when he said they didn't, they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. And when they came for me, there was nobody left to speak up. This is the reason Hamas was able to do what it did is not only because they get support from many quarters of the world, but because even more people in the world refuse to oppose them. Now is our moment to either make the world a better place or to not. Just wanna small after we'll continue our chat. There's a rocket impact in Ashkelon. I wanna update our viewers right now. And I know, again, warnings, sirens in the North, so ongoing conflict in the backdrop right now. Look, I wanna bring a beauty to this, perhaps you can comment on. I worry, Hamas, I'm grateful for the outpouring of support that we see around the world. Hugely grateful, but I worry because Hamas has slaughtered many times before. They've already demonstrated who they are to Israelis and really to the world for decades. So we can go back to many horrendous incidents. This is just the largest scale. Almost as if the world hadn't noticed yet is kind of how I'm looking at this. I'm sorry, again, to be cynical, but is this a potentially fleeting moment of world sympathy for Israel? How much of a concern is that? It is a significant concern. We've already seen articles in the Associated Press and in Reuters talking about there are over 1,000 deaths on both sides, which is incomprehensible phrasing. I've seen a Palestinian Hamas spokespeople saying there were no civilian casualties and going unchallenged by mainstream news outlets. And this is just a preview of what is going to be coming, particularly as Hamas uses human shields and we start seeing some of the human cost of their actions in that regard. Yeah, go ahead. But even though the moment may be fleeting, Hamas' intention has existed for decades. And even we here in Israel, I think maybe didn't take it as seriously as we should have. Perhaps began to be complacent about that or even tell ourselves that maybe things had changed. No, look, when we look at the risk going right now, how are Jewish communities around the world and particularly, you know, how do they appear to be reacting? I know there's a lot of shock and horror, but is this impacting? Can we tell you how this is sort of affecting and impacting other communities around the world? Jewish communities are shocked and horrified, as you said. They're very concerned. They're pulling together even the most left-wing critical voices in America and in Israel are for the most part very supportive right now. But Jewish students in places like, for example, Harvard University live in a climate of fear and face a very difficult position. It's a place where Israeli students feel afraid to admit that they're Israeli and lie and say that they're from some other country. Look, I mean, I refer to it broadly as the haters. I mean, this is not the sophisticated language to describe the anti-movement right now, but they appear everywhere. What's the most dangerous arena in your perspective? Is it the world of academia? Or is it the university campuses? And what do you expect to see? The worst of it appeared right now. The worst, we're going to see it on the streets. We're going to see it in the campuses. We're going to see it in academia. And very soon, we're going to see a lot of it in very mainstream press. This isn't niche. But it's important that the world take note, not only for Israel's sake, but this is exactly the kind of hate and violence that can be used against other countries. Hamas and Iran, who support them, have frequently made references to attacking America. And they don't hate America because of Israel. They hate Israel because of America. Look, disinformation campaigns. We're being warned a lot by that on so much online. I mean, so much on social media realm, which is, I guess, arguably the biggest source of information right now that most people are getting, or at least expressing themselves in, how big are the dangers of disinformation, of influence from this arena? Well, there's quite a lot. And in the early hours of this, the IDF went on television to say, pay attention only to official sources. And so I look at the Telegram channels and the What's Up channels. And what I'll find is, if I look at them, sometimes I'll find out some accurate news faster than it makes the official sources. But I have to discern it from a flood of inaccurate news that's also out there. And that's just news. Hamas is putting out news about some of the horrific things that they're doing in order to have a psychological effect on Israelis. But in addition to that, we are already seeing and we'll see much more fake reports trying to malign Israel or blame Israel for the events going on this week. And that's why it's so important to remember Biden's statement. And President Biden is someone who has never been shy about criticizing Israel when he feels it's appropriate. And his statement was that Hamas does not stand for dignity for the Palestinian people. I think you could argue accurately we've seen from President Biden just this year unprecedented criticism and unprecedented support emerge at the same time. Obviously a true friend in this moment. Daniel Palmer, I'd stay with us though. We've got to transition to another part of the story. We'll come back to some other elements around the international community. But we're joined right now as Israel's Ministry of Welfare working to help relocate so many affected survivors of the crisis. Now we're lucky to be joined right now by Yareev Man. He's the Deputy Director General of the Ministry of Welfare and Social Affairs in Israel. Dr. Reed, thanks for being with us. We know you have a lot to do. So I appreciate your time on the program right now. Again, I'd like to encourage our important guests here. There are many people around the world watching right now who are good friends who care deeply about what's happening here and get a lot out of the updates you're able to give us. So from what your ministry is doing right now, your office in particular, tell us what's happening. Thanks a lot for the fact that you spent time about this issue, about the social aspects of the people who were evacuated from the Kibbutzim and the places and the other cities around the Gaza Strip. Right now, the social workers, which are under our command, are all over the hotels where the people from the villages and from the places were evacuated. And our social workers are also in the center of the police unit 1, unit 4, 3, 3, and the hotline 105, which take the elements and the information from the families of the people who were killed or who were kidnapped. Right now, our people just walking about this issue. I saw social workers in the hotels in Dead Sea, in a lab, in everywhere. They speak with the people. They try to reach to everyone. Still, we are in the middle of something that Israel haven't seen before. So it's very complicated. We need to do more. We know it. But right now, there's no one social worker in the minister of welfare or in the municipalities that do not involve in such action that are relevant for the people from the south of Israel. And we will also look to the north. But all our administration, all the ministry needs people right now thinking about the welfare issues and how to bring support and how to speak with the NGOs. And we open today a hotline to deal with so many good things from the community, from the community of the world, from North America, from Europe, good people and good families and good communities who want to help us. So we will be able to take this with two hands in full capacity for one day or more. But right now, we are building all the systems in order to be able to assist with all this help. Incredible being basically joining the people looking to help and the people seeking help. Look, what seems to be the most urgent issue for all these people? Are they need somewhere to simply relocate? I mean, is that the phase we're in now is just trying to get people settled anywhere at this point? Excuse me, did you ask about what's going on with the people? Yes, the relocating efforts. Is that the most urgent issue in this moment to try to find a plate shelter for people? That's right. Let me tell you, for example, about my main issue here is the senior citizens, elderly people. Right now, we took people from the south of Israel and we brought them to nursing houses in the middle of Israel or to the north. And the same we do with people from around Gaza while now in places like the sea, hotels, or other hotels all over the country. We're still in the middle of this action. And I know that right now, we are trying to make our actions to be better than it was the day before. But I hope that we'll be able to bring more support and to meet everyone, every family that wants to speak with us and that we need to be available for everyone. So we're in the middle of this operation. We hope that we will be better from day to day and we will improve our abilities. I just want to give a short update here as we're speaking. And again, to be to know the emergency rescue service responding to direct rocket hits now in Ashdod and Ashkelon is two prominent towns just south of us here. So I want to update our viewers there. Again, I appreciate all these updates from you. So many people looking in right now, wondering how they can help. And I know from around the country, are there ways to get involved with your efforts for the average citizen? What can people do? Right now, there's so many people who wants to do things for the soldiers, for the evacuated people, for communities in the south of Israel and all over Israel. Most of the, our ministry has one hotline for people that want to volunteer or that they want to help for the welfare system in Israel. I know that there is also other options or connections to volunteer. Our ministry has one hotline number, which is 118 from Israel. Just 118. And if someone with 118 is very simple, and if someone will make a call to this center, they will help him to take the call. And the call will move to people of my ministry, to departments above me, that's sitting there together with people from the NGOs, with people that are in connection with federations and Jewish federations and the other communities all over the world. And they will have answers and really information about what to do with their good, with the good, with the things that they want to do, all things that they want to help us to bring a helpful community. Very important. You already have man, keep up the good work. I know all this is just beginning and you're in a position here to help coordinate it and grow the initiatives to come. So thanks for joining us on the program and keep up the good work. We'll stay tuned on the needs of the people out there. Thank you, thank you. Just to update again, as he was speaking, you're seeing live images here from Ashkelon and Ashkelon were two rockets or at least two have hit now. I'm not even sure the total number again, but we know there have been direct hits. And this is the imagery that's coming from one of them here. And you see fire and rescue crews on the scene dealing with that. We don't know much else about the nature of what happened in that attack, but in nature of what we're discussing here in this moment of national recovery and survival in Israel. Now it's become more noteworthy by the day just how society at large is emerging to pick up the burden and help those in need and provide really whatever the frontline troops need to win as well. Here's look at how things are shaping up at the home front. A glimmer of light in what are otherwise some of the worst days in Israel's history. A nation united with a year long political rift put aside even if only temporary. While hundreds of thousands of Israelis have been called up for military reserve service, others are collecting donations in 10 resident of villages surrounding the Gaza Strip or for IDF soldiers. Like these headquarters run by the Kaplan Force, which just two weeks ago was leading the protests against the current government. They are all volunteers. Some are sorting out donations from toiletry and baby strollers to clothes and army gear. Others are unpacking boxes. Sirens disturb them while they work. There is also no shortage of volunteers to distribute the donations all across Israel. Trying to deliver some items and equipment to the soldiers. I'm unable to serve the military. I'm an ex-parachuteist. But unfortunately, I can't be a Christian. And I'm trying to contribute as much as I can. I'm trying to serve the military. I'm trying to save the money. These boxes are now making their way to an army base full of reservists. No one knows what's inside the boxes, only that the soldiers that ask for them need them. Finally, the boxes reach their destination as have many others with equipment. None of these drivers know the soldiers personally. For this volunteer, this space is the second delivery of the day. Yael and Niko immigrated to Israel 20 years ago. Now they've made their way from Ranana, a city north of Tel Aviv, with their friends from their school days in the Scouts. They collect donations privately and buy specifically what is asked of them. We are a small group from Ranana. We are all friends. We decided we want to help as much as possible. When we hear or know of a soldier in need, we contact him and ask them, what do they need specifically? We might donate in a smaller range, but we give them exactly what they need. Today, those are female soldiers, and they needed products for female hygiene. These young adults have come here every day since Saturday, three times a day, coming with sweets and treats for the soldiers. The two ladies are only 20 years old. They couldn't enlist to the army, but they told I-24 News they had to do something to contribute. One of their friends was killed in the massacre at the rave party. Two others are still missing. It's our escapism for all of the trouble and the worries for our friends.  These packages have reached their destination. While not everyone can be on the front lines, those staying behind are still fighting to support and share the ones sacrificing their lives for their country. Now as we continue to try to focus on some of the positive, some of the uplifting out of the awful situation that confronted us in the last days. Now we're still at Daniel Palmer on to the studio here now, and just, again, coming back to this outpouring of support, we're seeing the positive developments inside Israel. We see really what feels like a near unprecedented level of just sympathy and support for Israel internationally. What kind of opportunity is it for the nation in this dire moment, at a pivotal moment of decision? Is it an opportunity we need to harness in some sort? We do, but we need to do it in the right way. Right now there's a lot of focus on helping soldiers and victims, but that's gonna change because the messaging around Israel is going to get bad. The country has declared a strategic goal of eliminating the mass organization, which is new. That cannot be done without a ground invasion and a ground invasion will not be pretty on television and in headlines. I've been speaking with government ministers, helping them write speeches, helping them define talking points, helping them create videos, doing press interviews on their behalf. Is this the key? I mean, in terms of, we need to win this information war, at least be a credible fighter in it. How has this done? This has done, there's an Israeli attitude right now which is important, which is to emphasize we are strong and we will win. That's something Israelis need to hear. It's something Hamas needs to hear. But people in places like the United States and Europe need to hear something that we consider so obvious we don't say it, but we have to say it. That we are winning with our humanity intact. That we're fighting not because we want to, but because it's the right thing to do. That our goal is to keep people safe. All Israeli people, including Jews and including all other Israelis. That message is the one that we need to get out to the world and make stick so that as this proceeds, the world hopefully will understand us as being a player for doing what is right for humanity rather than just one more force in an ongoing war. Well put, Dana Palmer, as you mentioned, this is really the early phases of all this right now. So much still in the air, so much heartbreak still present in the story. Can I have, do we have just a moment? Yes, yeah. You know, a U.S. carrier group has entered the Eastern Mediterranean. It's there to support. It's there to make sure that nobody gets any ideas like Lebanon or Syria or Iran to expand the conflict. That's what Biden referred to. If we lose the information war, democracies will no longer do things like that for us. Democracies are based on what voters think and what voters think comes back to the way we communicate. Information is a security priority. I think that's key now is even President Biden mentioned that he'll be pushing things to the Congress and this and that, but I think we feel pretty assured we're gonna have a landslide of support out of the U.S. Congress, but nothing to take for granted, as you mentioned. These are issues that must be maintained. This is support that has to be maintained and nurtured essentially with the ongoing outreach and get paid. Daniel Palmer, thanks for giving us so much perspective on this important aspect of what's playing out around us right now internationally in Israel, in the U.S. in particular. I have to bring our viewers back to what they're seeing on the screen here. Again, this is scenes from the rocket fire in just the last half hour or so. There have been direct hits in Ashkelon and Ashdod. So again, this aspect of the conflict still plaguing the home front of Israel here and not likely to dissipate any time soon, at least as long as there is a viable Hamas entity in the Gaza Strip, this we know well. So again, these are fresh images. This is what's happening at this hour inside of Israel, the towns unfortunately hit by rocket fire and will continue covering all the aspects again of this ongoing conflict. We'll be back with much more, a whole nother hour that I'm with you here, breaking down the situation as it is, a state of war in Israel, still collecting, still picking up the pieces, literally, from the devastation on Saturday. We'll be right back. Since the early hours of the morning, Israel has been facing infiltrations of terrorists, kidnapping of Israelis, and a barrage of thousands of rockets emanating from the Gaza Strip, the biggest and bloodiest attack in years. Tune in for our extensive and rolling coverage of the Hamas deadly attack on Israel. With reporters on the ground in depth analysis and most updated and accurate information, stay tuned with I-24 News. Come back this hour, in case you're just joining us. I'm David Matlin, live in Tel Aviv, ongoing live coverage, the breaking war and the entire situation around the country from South to North. Now, the latest, the IDF is saying that they're regaining mostly the security around all these southern communities in the Gaza border region, though some infiltration attempts have occurred just in the last day, still and overnight. IDF saying they killed 18 terrorists, Hamas terrorists, still inside Israel in the last day, part of infiltrations ongoing, and the grim details are still emerging, the toll being tallied right now of civilian deaths, at least 1,200 people killed in these southern communities by the marauding Hamas terrorists that morning. Now estimated to be in the thousands, heavily armed, infiltrating Israel, as at least 1,500 bodies of Hamas terrorists have been recovered in this area, speaking again to the enormity of the invasion, a scale we've never seen before, not even close. And the situation remains tense on both fronts, both the North and the South, and there's been still some activity again in the North as we all look for a regional response here or the sign of the conflict widening. We go back to our correspondent, Ariel Osirad in the North, near the border regions. Ariel, just again, viewers tuning in this hour trying to understand just the nature of the tensions, the level of readiness, and what residents are being told up there. What can you update us? Right, David, alert level is very high here, standing in one of the impromptu checkpoints that have been set up across roots here along the Northern border with Israel. Earlier today, there were multiple incidents of exchange of fire. One of the incidents included Hezbollah launching two anti-tank missiles at one of the IDF posts here along the border, not too far east from where I'm standing right now. Other than that, the past hour, hour and a half, couple hours have been fairly quiet, but this is a very tense, delicate, all the while we're hearing, I think you can hear that buzz of the IDF surveillance, drones that buzz has been with us for the past few hours nonstop. A reassuring sound in the air from what I know when you're out in the field, that's a reassuring in the eye and sky, but it's present. Indeed, it's present along with massive forces on the ground, all the roots here have been bolstered. Like I mentioned earlier on our way here from Nahria, we passed through multiple checkpoints, usually the roots here are open, but multiple checkpoints by soldiers, making sure that also that the roots are safe. This is obviously following the incidents that happened on Saturday morning in the Southern border communities where the roots were compromised, but also as part of preparation for a potential escalation here on the border with Hezbollah and escalation that is in effect. I mean, for the past four days, we have seen gradual increase in exchange of fire in attacks by Hezbollah since Saturday for attacks on the border the most that we've seen in years. Now, there's been reports that some of the cross-border infiltration attempts at attacks are perpetrated by Palestinian groups. Other times we understand there's been Hezbollah involvement, so is it a mix? I mean, what do we know about who exactly has been perpetrating some of the activity along the border? Yeah, David, it's a joint effort of Palestinian factions as well as Hezbollah, obviously Hezbollah controlling the territory in southern Lebanon, so any activity by Palestinian factions, terror factions would have to at least be with their tacit approval, but the only infiltration that has taken place so far since Saturday that was carried out by Palestinian Islamic jihad fighters. They were killed in exchange in a firefight, a fierce firefight with Israeli forces. In that firefight, there were three soldiers who were injured, including one Lieutenant Colonel and four additional soldiers are in hospital in Naharia. We visited the hospital yesterday and also given that there's such a tense situation earlier in the morning, there was instruction for all the border communities, the residents there to stick by shelter that has since been lifted in most communities, but indeed, all these steps just show how tense the situation is up north right now. Now, there's still activity elsewhere all around the country here, again, rockets in the south still, even a terror attack, I'm seeing word of in Jerusalem. Ariel is around though, keeping her eyes on the north and giving us the updates there, so such a critical arena. Thanks for joining us. We'll bring our viewers back around to that front at some point here in this hour and I want to introduce our studio guest with us back again is IDF Reserve Colonel Grisha Yakubovic. The former head significantly of the civilian department of the deals with the Palestinians called Kogat here. So this is the basically liaison branch of the IDF with the Palestinians. So your knowledge of affairs, especially around Gaza is deep Grisha, thanks for being back. I'll throw this sort of big question at you now. The border region appears to be back under some semblance of control, now what? Well, it's not the end of it. As I mentioned previous, it was supposed to take between 24 to 72 hours to stabilize it. Only yesterday, 18 terrorists were killed by the IDF. Still huge numbers, I mean, by any normal standard, this is just incredible. Let's not forget that only a few weeks ago, if somebody mentioned that somebody crossed the border. One person. Even one armed guy. Yes, one armed guy. The whole IDF was in there. And now we're talking about thousands. Can't even count. More than 1,500 bodies of terrorists that are actually still there. The ones you didn't get away with. It means it was not an attack, it was an invasion. Absolutely. Now I've seen maps that the soldiers found on those terrorist bodies, that the map is actually marked with an addition of new land to the Gaza Strip. So the Keynes, they came to capture. They came to conquer. Okay, that's the thing here. So yes, the IDF will complete the process of stabilizing the arena. I'm sure that we will see today and tomorrow still some remains of the terrorists that are hidden, were hidden. And some of them, by the way, tried to mix into some Arab countries, Arab cities like Lahat, for example. Okay. And for the first time, I've seen it. I've seen the video. People from Lahat tell in the police. A large Bedouin community. Where they are. Okay, where they are. So that's a change, I think. I'll just say. That's a trend from May 20, 2021. The community down there not known for our viewers for coordinating closely with the police. Let's just put it that way. This is a large Bedouin town. That's a better definition. Certainly not terrorists by any means, but this is, you know, there's this police are largely on the outside sometimes of that community. Look, I wanted to talk about what we are seeing in Gaza right now. And examples, I think of how the IDF is operating. Maybe you can talk about this more. They've essentially leveled this Remo neighborhood, this, you know, gem of the headquarters in a way for Hamas, their villas, their economic hub. But the IDF is saying that, you know, they're making phone calls for these areas. They're warning residents first to get out of these buildings. What can you tell us about, you know, how the IDF is actually operating at this point when it comes to these striking Gaza? First of all, the action taken by the IDF is to put a siege on Gaza. And I want to explain that. There are probably close to 200 people, 200 civilians, women, old men, kids that were kidnapped by Hamas into Gaza. Israel must to ensure the safety of those people. So what we will see is the IDF making sure that they will not be able to cross the northern border, the eastern border, and also the border with Egypt. And of course, the west, the sea. So we will see the IDF, the Navy, the Air Force, all trying to get a hold and close the Gaza Strip. The weakness that is, let's say, a problem, not only for us, also for the Egyptians, is the tunnels on the ground on the border between Gaza and Egypt. And I think that there's also a problem in the sea because one of the things that we saw in the past, tunnels in the sea, okay? It's simple, you just push a pipe into the sea and actually you have a tunnel. So they can actually smuggler, okay? The prisoners or the people that they kidnapped from Gaza to Sinai, okay? And to put them in the hands of ISIS. What kind of a partner is Egypt right now? I mean, the world forgets a lot of times that Egypt has a border with Gaza as well and it mostly is much more shut down and strict and closed than any of the Israeli sides. The border between Gaza and Egypt is exactly 13.9 kilometers with two crossings that now are closed. And Egypt is in some sort of a conflict, if I may say so, why? On one hand, they understand that they cannot, they can't help Hamas, okay? It will be impossible. And as mediators, let's not forget that Hamas spat in their faces. Why? Because they were part of the plan to scare us. Like, okay, let's talk about combing the situation. Right, they've been seen as mediators. As mediators, yes. As only ones who really seem to make it a break. So they will not forget that, okay, for sure. On the other hand, they as an Arab nation, okay, as an Arab country, must send aid to the people of Gaza. Which I have to break in for a minute here because there's been a shooting attack. I mentioned this a few minutes ago but I'll remind our viewers again that there's been a shooting attack in Jerusalem, a little more detail coming out about it right now. That- Yes, at a crossing. Yes, again, at one of the checkpoints that are near Jerusalem, we should say. You've seen some of the footage from the scene from the initial reports that there is someone wounded, at least one person wounded, and that the gunman though has been neutralized. I'm seeing those reports as well. So again, just to give you a bit of followup information after we mentioned that to you a few minutes ago, this is still some information coming out of that. So yes, Greece officer, we're following all these constantly breaking developments but Egypt, such it seemed to be an integral and important part of this whole picture as we try to squeeze Hamas. Israel or Egypt, of course, they're a very important, let's say, ally, if I may say. Okay, I can use this term ally because they are also in a threat inside the Sinai and we were coordinated for a long time of period to deal with this horrible ISIS groups inside Sinai. Now we are dealing with a total different enemy, cooler than ISIS. I think the devil landed in Gaza. And again, as I mentioned, they are in a dilemma and Hamas is using the next tool and the next tool that we are going all to see all over the world will be the humanitarian crisis. The psychological warfare. So as an Arab nation, Egypt, that have a border with Gaza, they are expected to help the people of Gaza. So they will be turned inside them how to do it. So I believe this is why we will not hear a response from Egypt, we will see nothing from Egypt. And they will always say we cannot because the Israelis did one, two, three, four. So this is what is expected. So outwardly, they're not going to be very friendly but you do expect close coordination when it comes to security and intelligence even. They will not be friendly. I don't know what to expect actually. After October 7th, I don't know what the rule has been thrown out. Look, as you mentioned. Somebody shakes the box, okay? Everything's changed. Everything's changed. Look, I'm going to come back to you in a moment here. Our correspondent Hamas al-Hood is down in the South again. It's just initial access being gained to the press and to really everyone, to the whores that took place here. Hamda, tell us where you are and obviously give us a look around. David, we're in a house in the village of Ofaquim.  The residents of this house held captive for 18 hours by Hamas on Saturday. We're going to start here on the ground, blood completely spattered all over the belongings. You can even see here there's food on the table because they were asking the residents of this house for food during the 18 hours. The residents here told us that they definitely thought they were going to die, but they were here alone.  These scenes now of the blood are of Hamas that was taken out after in firefights with the Israeli military. There are bullet holes everywhere here. The smell is overwhelming. There is really an indescribable feeling here among the people of this town and what they've experienced and just to show you a little bit on these stairs, this is all bullet holes and destruction as well as blood that is spattered everywhere in this house. The residents here are saying they're thankful to be alive, but for a lot of people that simply wasn't the case. Around 1200 Israelis have now lost their lives since the beginning of that attack on Saturday when Hamas infiltrated the border in an attack, both land, air and sea, infiltrating the Israeli system and really getting able to go into these communities and wreak havoc on the innocent people here, downstairs here in the kitchen, also where some of the shootouts took place. And David, the outside of this house is actually where there are infamous videos of the shootout soldiers hiding on the other side, water completely damaging the floors here. The blood also spattered all along the floors, but the most prevalent thing we're seeing inside of this house are bullet holes and shell casings that are just everywhere.  This is the blood after these bodies were dragged out of here when this elderly couple was finally able to get to safety. Now the Israeli military has said that they have regained full control of these Southern communities, but there are still fears that Hamas is in the area. So far they've collected around 1500 bodies, but the Israeli military is saying that there are still bodies they haven't found because they really don't know how many people came across the border. Just one of hundreds if not maybe thousands of homes turned into scenes of slaughter and war zone. Hamda, thanks for the fortitude to bring it to our viewers up close. And certainly the warning's about disturbing nature here. This is the scenes playing out before the country. Hamda, thanks for a look at that right now. We'll come back to you later on. We have another testimony to bring your way right now. We're joined by Michal Rahaf, she's a former resident of Kibbutz Niarim. I'll put it that way. I don't know your future plans to live there, but Michal, first of all, I know you bring us a harrowing story, but one of survival thankfully at this point. And first of all, thanks for having the fortitude and the strength to join us here. I try to mention this. These are difficult stories to tell our viewers, but so many people around the world who care deeply about us here right now and it's important for them to hear your stories. If you could tell us what happened in your home on Saturday morning. Thank you for having me. And first of all, I would just like to send my condolences and my heart and prayers to all the people that lost their loved ones and are being helped captive. And also want to thank my husband, which is one of them who joined the reserve today and are fighting for our country. I wish they all come back home in peace. Everything started on Saturday morning, 6.32 in the morning, the alarm starting going off. We were running to the safe room and we have two children in two separate bedrooms. We collected them on the way. My third child is sleeping in the safe room and we shut the door closed. The intensity of the alarms was really, really different this time from different escalations that we had previously. It was a lot of alarms in a very short period of time. It didn't stop. And immediately we understand that this is a different situation that we have now. So I was looking at my children and I said, okay, listen kids, first thing first, get dressed, put on shoes, clothes, shoes, not sandals or something like that. Once we get a chance, we're running to the car and getting out of here. And time was passing by at around 8.15, 8.10. I went out of the room, to our room to try to collect some clothes from my husband and myself. All this time, I just need to say that my husband is in a police unit, operational police unit. He's also in reserve, so he has weapons and he was already ready with his uniform and weapons and he was patrolling the house. And I was standing in front of our closet and then we heard a shooting of rifles, really, really close, something we have never heard before. We were looking at each other and this was different and we said, what is this? This may be IDF, but why? And then a few seconds afterwards we were hitting and shouting in Arabic and then we understood this is a different situation. We're here, the penetrated the kibbutz. I ran back to the safe room. I gave one of my daughters a stick to have. My other daughter, I gave tear gas and my son, I gave him a helmet to protect his body and I told him to lay down and I said, no matter what comes through that door, fight. Right for your life, don't give up. And I was hearing my husband, everything was, they started to shoot at us and then my husband and he was walking towards the safe room which is in the back part of our house and then just over the door, we were hearing all of the shooting just like we're sitting now like my phone is next to me. And then he opened the door, he came in, slammed the door shut and he said, listen, they just, one terrorist tried to get into the house and I shot him. As he was finishing the sentence, there was this enormous explosion and immediately afterwards they were shooting at the door and at the window, the iron window of the safe room and we were like shocked because we were, because of the blast, the whole room was with smoke and fire powder and our ears were ringing and we kind of had to gather ourselves to understand what was going on. And it took us a few minutes but then we were looking at my husband, he was looking at me and we understood, we said, whatever comes through that door, this is the last bullet. I had a dam in my, he had his rifle. We were sitting down pointing it to the door, just waiting for them to come in and we said, we're not going down without a fight. All this time my children were on the floor, petrified, they were quiet. The lights went out, we lost electricity. So we were, it was also very hard to breathe because of the fire powder. And then for some reason, I don't know why, they just decided to move on. But still we were eight hours and every now and then we kept hearing, shooting around our house and people inside our house. It was endless. It was, I don't know, we living it all the time is something, it's very hard to comprehend. I can't believe we made it. I honestly can't believe we made it. Sounds like your husband had a lot to do with that.  Well, it's an emotional roller coaster. Once we got out and we were in a safe place very far from the Gaza envelope. We just let ourselves fall apart and we were crying and hugging them all the time. And it's an ordeal, we have to deal with it. They're getting counseling, so are we. They have their moments, highs and lows, but it's very far from being over for us because every hour that goes by, we still get bad news.   Did any of them survive? Well, yes, yes, but unfortunately, yes, we have captives from our kibbutz as well as we've lost a few of our members tragically in their homes. I don't know how, when we can start living again after this, if we ever go back, we all know. That's a big question there, of course. I'll answer while I get to this point. For now, there's no moving back. If you could just comment a bit on, prior to this attack, when something like this was really, was it ever something that you thought could happen? I mean, what was your prevailing attitude and even towards the people in Gaza? Has this changed everything, in other words, about how you see what was? Completely, everything has changed. Once we got that RPG in our house metaphorically and realistically, everything that we believed and thought that was going to happen or not happen, just crumbled it before our eyes. In that way, exactly. We understood we were alone. Sitting eight hours, we were calling for help through Facebook. Nobody was answering us, we couldn't understand. Living in a Gaza envelope, you develop a sixth sense and you kind of understand when it's a bit tense, when it's not, when it's starting to build up to an escalation, when it's not, this is something nobody expected at all. Especially when everybody put their faith in the obstacle that they build, because they said, no, it's okay. We had the tunnels in 2014, so now we have the obstacle. Okay, but they can go over the obstacle, and they did. And eight hours sitting and understanding, this is us, only us for ourselves. This is the most horrific understanding that we have to deal with now, with every single of our lives. And every decision that we take now onwards, for myself, for my family, is reflected by those eight hours sitting in the safe room. You all clearly have left, I'm sure, anyone around the world watching this, completely speechless, your story, thankfully one of survival, standing out here among so many, but characterizing, I believe very accurately, what so many families went through on that horrific nightmarish morning. Again, I have to thank you for having the strength, even so fresh after this incident. To come on in eloquent English, explain to our viewers abroad, certainly just Stephen Glimmer, of what it was like all those hours in your fight for survival. Good on you and your husband for having the fortitude and the strength to survive and get through that. And again, for coming on our program to share with our viewers around the world, Michal Rahab, we wish only well. And of course, your husband, stay safe, and your children, and you recover from all this. So thanks for joining us. Thank you so much. Thank you. Not much to say after a story like that. I hope you all take it in, and that the world is taking it in. As we at I-24 News and really the larger system around us trying to bring these stories to light, as difficult as they are to have people around the world not turn away from what has turned out to be an unspeakable atrocity. And we're still reeling in again, collecting the bodies to mention at least 1,200 people known to be dead at this point. Civilians who are living in and around those communities, another some 200 still estimated, thought to be captured, dragged back into the Gaza Strip, and they're still dead and alive. That's being the theme now. If that was real, recovers response to the situation. A lot more analysis coming your way. A lot more coverage here at I-24 News. Stay with us. All the live updates will be right back after a short break. Date of war, this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking. Within 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped. Help us, we don't want to do it. We just don't know anything. Entire families, including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds. Awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong. Everyone is showing up. This is the unity. This particular project with a gross capacity of 103.5 megawatt will be producing around 230 gigawatt hour of clean renewable energy per year. In fact, right now global warming is affecting Bolivia and not only Bolivia, but the whole world. We need rain for the embryos. The Fakita reserve, we have the right ingredients and we have to do the job. And that if we have the right ingredients and we do the job, the Fakita can be protected. Welcome back now to our live coverage rolling as it is here at I-24 News keeping you updated on all the latest developments in and around the war breaking in Israel since the surprise invasion on Saturday morning of thousands of heavily armed Hamas terrorists. But there's been ongoing developments and different fronts around the country now whether it be the north, certainly all around the south. But today, another incident taking place, a terror attack near Jerusalem here. We have our correspondent Ariel O'Sarad who's been covering the situation in the north. But Ariel, what do we know? I mean, the West Bank, obviously, such an important arena right now for security, for the trajectory of where things go at this point.  What do we know about the nature of where tensions stand in the West Bank, Ariel? Right, David, so I'll start with a quick update regarding the shooting incident in the Minharot checkpoint near Jerusalem. A 20-year-old man was injured in moderate condition taken to the hospital after being shot in that incident. According to our information, the terrorist was, he was neutralized. Now, I totally agree with your assessment. I mean, with the focus of the IDF, mainly on the southern and northern borders. Meanwhile, the West Bank is simmering. Since Saturday, 24 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli forces in clashes, in terror attacks that failed, in terror attacks that succeeded.  And this is, it's considered by the IDF as another front and another potential. On the one hand, it's a front like any other front, and on the other hand, because you have so many Israeli settlements and towns surrounded by a Palestinian population, and in the West Bank, there's tens of thousands of armed Palestinians that the IDF has been clashing with nearly on a daily basis for over a year, a year and a half with your daily raids or nightly raids, I should say, to pick up terror suspects, sometimes one, two, sometimes 15, 20. And so the West Bank is, as we've been talking about for months leading up to Saturday's event, that's where the majority of the focus of the IDF was. It drew a lot of forces away from other fronts that is also an issue that needs to be looked at. But indeed, the situation in the West Bank is also tense and just an example with over 100, over 110 attacks, attempted attacks since Saturday, leading to the death of at least 24 Palestinians and obviously the death of each Palestinian in a successful attack or failed attack regardless. It helps bring out more and more Palestinian youth to take arms. What do we know about the coordination on going with the Palestinian Authority or a Mahmoud Abbas and his factions, have they said much, are things carry on as sort of quote unquote normal with them? What about the authorities existing in the West Bank there? Yeah, look, the status quo, the situation on the ground is continuing, the security coordination between Israeli forces and the PA, there's no indication that that has ceased. Look, if we're looking at the rhetoric, obviously the rhetoric of the PA is such a, that condemning Israel, not condemning Hamas at all, just saying that that's not our way. But other than that, most of the rhetoric continues to be against Israel, against Israeli attacks in the Gaza Strip. Meanwhile, I should say in the Gaza Strip, the death toll there has crossed 1,000. It stands now at about 1,055. But also if you add to that the following, the decision in Israel to stop gas or the delivery of fuel there, the power plant in the Gaza Strip is expected to cease from action and that raises many different issues in the Gaza Strip. As you see, I understand that there's live visuals on the screen right now from the Gaza Strip. Huge plume of black smoke there, apparently from another building targeted by the Israeli air campaign ongoing today. Arielle, thanks for the updates again around this situation. All eyes on really all the security fronts for Israel, certainly West Bank and lighted this shooting attack and as you mentioned, a slew of other activity in recent days that in normal times would have been captivating us on our own, specials of its own. So here we are trying to keep track of the various fronts for you and our correspondence spread around the country against still, in the studio, still by idea of reserve Colonel Grisha Yakubovic. We're gonna discuss a lot more aspects of this, so Grisha, first I do, let's go back to my correspondent, Emily Francis, who's out there and she's looking at things on the home front as they're developing now. Emily, there's a lot to be proud of, a lot to lift our spirits, I believe. Give us a look around you there. What's happening? Hi, listen, you're so right. Listen, we've been reporting on this tragedy for so many days, it's left the world in shock and if there's any kind of positivity we can send out that shows about the triumph of the heart and the soul and the spirit of the Israeli people. Politics aside, war aside, everybody is pitching in. This is the first thing that Israelis do, is find a solution and a way to help and what better way to help than through food, comfort food, especially the diversity of the cuisine within Israel. So we're at a very special place called the Asif Culinary Institute. It's actually an institute, it's not a kitchen, it's not a cooking school, it's an institute that celebrates the diversity of the Israeli cuisine because there's so many ethnicities here. So what happens as soon as this war breaks out, they literally converge and manage to establish an entire operation of volunteers. You can see all these volunteers have been here throughout the day, putting together delicious salads, delicious food, something that is made with so much love and 90% of it is actually going to soldiers. From what I understand, there's many places doing this type of initiative, but here specifically 90% of these meals are going to soldiers who on their bases throughout the country, the front lines, also within the center of the country, obviously the soldiers are all called to duty right now. I do want to bring in right now Gil Ackerman, who's a very interesting young man of the pop, Parfait, an FNB catering company. He's a caterer who up and found a will and a way to find this great location to set up this operation. First of all, hats off to you for stepping up and doing what you're doing and look at this, like look what you've done. Hats off to those guys. I just helped with the stage, they're doing it. So explain how you found this place and your company and why it's so important in these times to do what we need to do. Hi everyone. This is America, it's France. Well, well, well. America, Israel, France, the whole world, but you're made of America, but a lot of Americans are watching right now, so let's talk to our American audience. Where from the food scene? Not him. Him, you. Yes. I'm Gil, nice to meet you. We have a company called Papa Parfait. We do a few things in the culinary scene. We have a catering company and we have another company that sets up and operates any food-related businesses. We're very plugged into the scene. We are now in the SIF, it's the Culinary Institute of Israel. It's like the Mecca of Israeli food. They are great friends of ours. We come here for inspiration and for food and for everything. We can have a whole interview on what's a SIF and I strongly recommend to read about them. So explain now, because we have limited time. What is going on? How are these meals being distributed and how is this being done? So basically we were looking for a way to help and we cook and we make people happy through food and that's the small contribution we can do to assist in the battlefield. My partner and I, Gomed, the chef, which as a soldier was in Gaza and knows these areas very well, we looked for a way to participate. I called him the first day of the operation and told him, hey, what can we do? He said, gee, let's cook. Okay, for how many people we can cook, let's expand and expand. We need a huge kitchen. I call our friends at the SIF, hey guys, can we work alongside you? They said, sure, let's do it. We came in beginning just a few people cooking for, we thought, 100, 200. And then we posted, hey guys, who wants to help? We need some money, who can donate? We need some produce, who can donate? And things led one to another. We raised substantial amount of money. We're getting volunteers all over the best people, the best chefs from all over Israel are coming to assist and help. And we're getting a lot of requests from the ground, like soldiers, that we are, I can't say we are the difference between them going to sleep hungry or not, because I believe someone would feed them in the end, but we're doing mama's food. It's not tuna fish, the cans of tuna fish, I know what soldiers usually get, it's tuna fish and canned corn and all of that. Will you also show me a video in your own phone, which we don't see right now, of one of the bases sending a thank you for receiving the food.  Well, it feels good and bad, it feels good because we know we made a good night in their evening, a good evening, but it feels bad that they're in this situation and that anyone is in this situation. And I hate the fact that we have to do this, but we have to do this. So it feels great to be able to participate and to really contribute, but it feels awful because of the situation. I wish this war would never happen and it will end. So God forbid it ends today, but if it won't, we're gonna be there to assist. Gil, thank you very much for your tireless efforts and for pulling together this amazing group of people who are not going anywhere. Forget tired, forget tired, forget cold, forget no air conditioning. This is, this is just so profound. I'm sure you all can see it. This is so profound and some kind of comfort in something that is the most uncomfortable thing that we have gone through in our lives. Not my experiences. Thanks for giving us a great look at that and obviously keep up the good work out there, everyone. And it is a moment of national recovery, survival even in Israel. It's become more noteworthy by the day as we're showing your house society at large, emerging to pick up the pieces, to pick up the burden, to help those in need, provide whatever the frontline troops need to win, but just look at how things are shaping up on the home front. A glimmer of light in what are otherwise some of the worst days in Israel's history. A nation united with a year-long political rift put aside even if only temporary. While hundreds of thousands of Israelis have been called up for military reserve service, others are collecting donations intended for resident of villages surrounding the Gaza Strip or for IDF soldiers. Like these headquarters run by the Kaplan Force which just two weeks ago was leading the protests against the current government. They are all volunteers. Some are sorting out donations from toiletry and baby strollers to clothes and army gear. Others are unpacking boxes. Sirens disturb them while they work. There is also no shortage of volunteers to distribute the donations all across Israel. I'm trying to deliver some items and equipment to the soldiers. I'm unable to serve the military. I'm an ex-powershooters, but unfortunately I can't be a Christian. I'm trying to contribute as much as I can. These boxes are now making their way to an army base full of reservists. No one knows what's inside the boxes. Only that the soldiers that ask for them need them. Finally, the boxes reach their destination as have many others with equipment. None of these drivers know the soldiers personally. For this volunteer, this base is the second delivery of the day. Yael and Niko immigrated to Israel 20 years ago. Now they've made their way from Rana, the city north of Tel Aviv with their friends from their school days in the scouts. They collect donations privately and buy specifically what is asked of them. We are a small group from Rana. We are all friends. We decided we want to help as much as possible. When we hear or know of a soldier in need, we contact him and ask them, what do they need specifically? We might donate in a smaller range, but we give them exactly what they need. Today, those are female soldiers and they needed products for female hygiene. These young adults have come here every day since Saturday, three times a day, coming with sweets and treats for the soldiers. The two ladies are only 20 years old. They couldn't enlist to the army, but they told I-24 News they had to do something to contribute. One of their friends was killed in the massacre at the rave party. Two others are still missing. It's our escapism for all of the trouble and the worries for our friends.  These packages have reached their destination. While not everyone can be on the front lines, those staying behind are still fighting to support and cheer the ones, sacrificing their lives for their country. I can be uplifting someone to see, again, and bring it to you, how people are reacting in and around Israel here to see the positive side of things out of such tragedy right now. And we're still joined in the studio by Grisha Yakubovic, she was formerly of the IDF division. Liaisoning with the Palestinians. Look, a lot of what appears to be happening right now in the aftermath of the battle that took place in this place is documenting, is going through the right now and sort of documenting the atrocities of collecting the pieces, of trying to show the world what happened with it. And I understand there's already a lot of, there's a lot out there trying to cast doubt on what took place in this area. How important is that effort in this moment to sort of put the truth before the world, to counter false narratives? Are we in a critical moment for this? It's not a critical moment. This is reality. And for the first time, the whole world can see what is actually a terror organization, okay? It's not an organization to free Palestine, okay? The purpose of this organization is to slaughter Jews. And this is what we saw, okay? 1,500 terrorists penetrated to Israel and slaughtered 1,200 families, Jews, Israelis, okay? And not only, also foreigners. Kidnapped them inside. And all over the world there is a movement, demonstrations to free Palestine from who? From us or from the animals? Given the long lines of, we talked essentially Palestinian politics from saying free Palestine and who's the liberator? Who's, by all accounts, Hamas is the dominant political movement among Palestinian society, as far as we can tell without any real accurate gauge of that. Does a victory like this, does a virtually race, the ability of any other Palestinian movement, Fatah included to get popular support? For a long time there are two narratives of the Palestinian arena. One led by Mahmoud Abbas, the president, the crippled president, if I may say so, that the only way to reach to their goals is by negotiations international pressure on Israel and he failed. He achieved nothing, zero. So in his history, in his legacy, he will be remembered as the president that achieved what? Not unity, okay? He is the one that because of him, probably there will be a three state, a four state solution, I don't know what. But he achieved nothing. On the other hand, Hamas, leading a narrative in Arabic, it's called Muqawama, resistance. And they created an equation time and time again and again, that only if you start a war, only if you launch rockets, you get what you want. So they gained a lot of support from the people. And let's add to that Gaza Strip with fences, with 2.1 million people, not enough young people and they educate them and they incite them. And what we saw actually is the results of the incitement of 15 years since June, 2007 inside Gaza. And can you call it rage or, I don't know what, I don't know how to call it. But yes, they achieved historically a huge victory. And I said it, since Saturday, I said it, their victory was achieved the three hours. Okay, and they will be remembered in history. And we, it's a must. We must delete this victory. How to destroy them? There's no other option. We've still some other aspects to talk about. I wanna draw into the discussion some more, the reactions of the international community, Grisha, especially that of, I believe it's hard to overstate the importance of President Biden, the speech he delivered last night, providing unequivocal support and alliance with Israel in a dire moment here. With the enemies circling and so much innocent blood deliberately spilled by the terrorists, as we've detailed, it's indispensable to us in this moment to have the president step up in such a ways. But here's more of an arguably unprecedented speech by a U.S. president.  The people of Israel lived through one such moment this weekend.  This was an act of sheer evil. More than 1,000 civilians slaughtered, not just go slaughtered in Israel. Among them, at least 14 American citizens killed. Parents butchered using their bodies to try to protect their children. Stomach-turning reports of babies being killed, entire families slain, young people massacred while attending a musical festival to celebrate peace, to celebrate peace, women raped, assaulted, paraded as trophies, families. Hid their fear for hours and hours desperately trying to keep their children quiet to avoid drawing attention. And thousands of wounded, alive but carrying with them the bullet holes and the shrapnel wounds and the memory of what they endured. You all know these traumas never go away. There's still so many families desperately waiting to hear the fate of their loved ones, not knowing if they're alive or dead or hostages. Infants in their mother's arms, grandparents and wheelchairs, Holocaust survivors, abducted and held hostage, hostages whom Hamas has now threatened to execute in violation of every code of human morality. It's a porn. The brutality of Hamas, these bloodthirstiness brings to mind the worst rampages of ISIS. This is terrorism. So in this moment, we must be crystal clear. We stand with Israel. We stand with Israel. And we will make sure Israel has what it needs to take care of its citizens, defend itself and respond to this attack. There's no justification for terrorism. There's no excuse. My team has been in near constant communication with our Israeli partners and partners all across the region and the world from the moment this crisis began. We're surging additional military assistance including ammunition and interceptors to replenish Iron Dome. We're gonna make sure that Israel does not run out of these critical assets to defend its cities and its citizens. Let me say again, to any country, any organization, anyone thinking of taking advantage of this situation, I have one word, don't, don't. And let there be no doubt, the United States has Israel's back. We will make sure that Jewish and democratic state of Israel can defend itself today, tomorrow, as we always have. It's as simple as that. These atrocities have been sickening. Where is Israel? Let's make no mistake. Thank you. Thank you, President Biden and all the staff there. And of course, the US Navy and that carrier fleet rolling into the Eastern Med, we're happy to have you. But we're back with Grisha in the studio here and Grisha in the minutes we have left here, whoever's sort of looking at what comes next and the West Bank now brought back into focus again by this attack today. Obviously it's such a critical arena with the integration of Israeli communities around there. What do you see the West Bank as, I know the IDF has had access to this area, it's not the Gaza Strip, so there's a fundamentally different reality on the ground but what are the dangers, the risks, where should we be paying attention right now? The original plan made by Hamas was to create a triangle of threat on Israel. It means Gaza, the West Bank and Palestinians from Lebanon. I think that they succeeded a little bit from the North. They are failing in the West Bank and the second failure that I can add to that is Fatah. It was expected by Mahmoud Abbas. It was expected by the PEA to condemn what happened. This is exactly the period that the Palestinians in the West Bank need brave leadership and the Palestinians never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity and this is another one. I believe that if they will not condemn what was done by Hamas, they will enter themselves to a lose-lose situation. Israel in a total modus operandus in the West Bank, it's not Gaza, we are actually inside. The rules of engagement are changed and as you can see, I think the number of casualties in the West Bank in the last 24 hours, something like 12 people. I think it over 20 at this point actually. I'm not updating that. It's going up, yeah. It's going up because there was another event an hour ago and yes, people in the West Bank feel that they are part of Hamas. They want to help their allies, our enemies and probably they will continue trying and Hamas hit us or terror attacks. Let's see how it will continue. But I hope that the Palestinian Authority at least use this window of opportunity for the first time since June 2007 and do something good for the people. Well, I'm not holding my breath. Grisha, sorry to be cynical here, but there's just no case study to look at for an encouraging example, I think, in that area. If they will not do that, the events made by Hamas will glue to them also. Grisha, Yoko Bovic, thanks for being with us a lot happening hour to hour here. Good to have you with us in the studio now. I've analyzed it all, a lot to come in the coming day. So thanks for joining. I know you're busy around our channel but helping provide information to our viewers desperately looking in for much more of it. And I can only thank you for tuning in here, approaching the end of my two hours with you. But if you're just joining and if you've been trying to follow things clearly, we here in Israel, we're reeling from the staggering blow of Saturday's gruesome, nightmarish invasion, but what turned out to be thousands of well-armed Hamas terrorists, the toll in civilian life has become increasingly clear by the hour, horrifyingly. At this point, we know that at least 1200 Israeli civilians of all ages were murdered. That number is expected to rise. Some 200 people estimated to have been dragged back into the clutches of Hamas and the Gaza Strip again of all ages from the elderly down to the children as President Biden rightly called out. IDF soldiers notable as well have taken losses in these battles to oust the terrorist horde that already eclipsed the numbers of those killed in action in the 50 day war back in 2014. But those comparisons to any of the past rounds of flare-up in this conflict are truly falling flat today. It's not that. The situation for Israel has changed drastically since Saturday morning. And at this point, the Israeli home front, once again, considered clear of Hamas in this area, ongoing infiltration attempts, ongoing rocket attacks, ongoing threats in the north near Lebanon, and of course, in and around the West Bank. We'll keep you updated here on I-24 News as now we turn to looking to eradicate the threats that became so sharp over the weekend. I'm David Matlin live in Tel Aviv. Thanks for joining us here. Stay tuned on the channel for much more. Grail is at war. Since the early hours of the morning, Israel has been facing infiltrations of terrorists, kidnapping of Israelis, and a barrage of thousands of rockets emanating from the Gaza Strip, the biggest and bloodiest attack in years. Tune in for our extensive and rolling coverage of the Hamas deadly attack on Israel with reporters on the ground in depth analysis and most updated and accurate information. Stay tuned with I-24 News. 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Breaking news edition, I'm Benita Levine coming to you live from Tel Aviv. Rocket fire continues at this hour. Southern Israel under fire, yet again. A heavy barrage of rockets launched from the Gaza Strip towards Ashkelon and ushered just a short while ago. Earlier, several direct hits in the city of Storot. And in a new development, a shooting attack at a checkpoint near Jerusalem, at least one person is wounded. Day five of the war, starting with a Hamas terror rampage on Saturday, the scale of the brutality is still being processed by a nation in shock. The death toll is at more than 1,200. Scores of people kidnapped on that day are being held hostage by the terror group, the Israeli Air Force continuing to pound Hamas sites in Gaza, hitting at least 150 targets overnight. Troops have also killed 18 terrorists trying to infiltrate the country in the past 24 hours. The Israeli home front is once again considered cleared of Hamas attackers. In the North, Hezbollah confirming it was behind the anti-tank guided missiles fired from Lebanon at a military post near the northern village of Arab al-Aramsh in recent hours. It's the first time the terror group has admitted to moves out of Lebanon since this war started. There have been several deadly clashes up north in recent days. Most of them claims by Palestinian terror groups operating out of southern Lebanon, which is controlled by Hezbollah. So for more on the ever-changing security front, we now welcome Brigadier General in the reserves Josef Kupavasa, former director general in the Israeli Ministry of Strategic Affairs and former head of research in the IDF military intelligence. Thank you so much for joining us. Still a very difficult time in the country. Concerns, threats on several fronts, all at once. Your assessment of where things stand at the moment. Well, we, first of all, thank you for having me. Yes, we are in the process of getting ready to complete the cleaning of the area that Hamas terrorists were operating inside Israel. Now more and more of the communities are open for everybody to see what happened there. And they are clear of terrorists that still operated until late last night. We cannot be sure that they're all gone, but most of them have gone for sure. More than 1,000 were killed and dozens were captured. And we are continuing with our effort to hit Hamas targets inside the Gaza Strip in order to weaken Hamas before there's going to be a decisive move against it. Whether this move is going to include ground operation or not, it's not totally clear, but definitely there is a preparation for such an operation. And with the footage coming from those communities around the Gaza Strip, it's clear that this war cannot end without a decisive move against Hamas that would make this threat disappear. We cannot leave next to Hamas anymore. That's clear. How is that going to be accomplished? It's still for the cabinet to decide based on the proposals presented to it by the military. Well, what do you think that decisive move needs to look like? What do you see that decisive move looking like? Your take? Well, the decisive look should look like Hamas leaving, Hamas leadership and Hamas operatives leaving the Gaza Strip. That's a decisive move. Either killed or captured or leaving. That's a decisive move. And we are putting the pressure on them in order to convince them to do that by the air strikes, by the Navy strikes, by the siege of fuel and electricity. And we believe that their conditions are going to become weaker and weaker by the moment. And at the same time, we are preparing also for a ground operation if necessary, but eventually this is the end result that we should be accomplishing. This is one thing. We may end up with something less than that. And this is, I think, the major discussion in the cabinet, how exactly to define what is decisively defeating the Hamas. I wrote a paper about what needs to happen in Gaza four months ago. And at that time, I didn't know that there's going to be such a devastating terror attack. I said once, right after the next terror attack of the Hamas, we should not come back to the situation that prevails now that we go from one round of atrocities to another and allowing the Hamas to arm itself in between, but after the next round, they will not be allowed to arm themselves. So this is the minimum, the minimum of the minimum of what we need to achieve. But right now that we saw what kind of threat the Hamas is, what kind of viciousness, what kind of savagery these people bring with them, there's no way that we can live next to them for any time in the future. So we have to get a more decisive result than just preventing them from arming themselves and making sure that they cannot carry out attacks because we saw that they managed to carry out these attacks even if we put a lot of pressure on them. Look at that, General, in the results. This is one thing that we're doing. Sorry, just to complete the answer, the one thing we are doing is to deter the other members of the Iranian terror axis from carrying out terror attacks and the offensives against Israel. And for that purpose, we have a lot of forces in the North, especially, and maintain a high deployment, heavy deployment in the West Bank as well, just to make sure that none of these elements that are members of the Iranian axis operate against. Gregor, General, in the results, please stay with us. I want to discuss the Hezbollah threat following developments up North earlier on in the day. But right now we're going to go up North and we're joined by our Middle East correspondent, Ariel Osara, near the border between Israel and Lebanon. And the IDF launching strikes on Lebanon after Hezbollah fired those anti-tank missiles at the border post earlier. Hezbollah taking responsibility that...