crewed over and it's just total bullshit but if something that can happen like that's kind of the point right it feels so it's it feels so like unfair and ridiculous because I think you can achieve it much stronger both the exact feeling but with a stronger story right so like what is being complained about here it's that our main character happened to walk past the wrong person at the wrong time which it's like how can we better justify that but maintain the point which is that they're coming down so hard at the lowest levels that people are now getting put in prison for literally doing nothing at all just looking the wrong way at the wrong time how do we do it and it's like well we've got enough to work with already right he's walking through this place looking shifty because he is shifty because he wants to make sure no one catch them doing anything so he's looking around all the time to find any possible threats if you have a trooper watching someone for a while doing that at a distance that's already enough to be like I might talk to that guy he looks so fucking shifty but we don't get that we get he crosses in front of a like a barricade type thing and they showed us the trooper right before he showed him he sees him for what's about possibly a second and a half before he says hey and it's like how the how the fuck man there's so many random civilians here what exactly clued you into this one in particular and if you said that's the point the trooper just randomly grabs people and says I hate you you're probably evil and then they go to prison it's like okay that's what I like so much about this show is portraying what I believe to be an oppressive government well not cartoonily I don't I don't like the whole like I'll just grab you and pop you in prison now lol it's yeah much more engaging to have it so that he's like that that one guy over there he's looking a little weird and he's dressed kind of similar to the the criminals that are running around and you just stop him be like what's your deal what's what's your name and you can have Cassian like be like oh fuck I've got to actually like get my idea in place I've got to remember my alibi I've got a and you can start like screwing it up and the guy can be more more inquisitive and then realize like we're going to take you in for questioning and then you can be like fuck no I give it like because he realizes like if he is it'll it'll result in worse things and then maybe tries to run and then trips up someone to have as well like much more than just literally I don't know man you're sweating though he's like it's a hot day and he's like yeah all you've been rutted is so weak which I have a pen but like as you know yeah you could have you could have used the reason for his capture to be something related to his personality and doors he got involved with something or he partied too hard and hit someone or he accidentally did something or anything but this is just like I feel such a such a lame way to have that happen I want to throw it be a cool piece of like irony to have it be that he's so careful that it actually gets him caught whereas if he were just treating everything as normally you'd have been fine like the efforts to almost try and come across his nonchalant actually make him look a little bit less that way and I think one opportunity right could be that he has that interaction with a trooper it goes okay and then as soon as that trooper is like all right fine you yeah you seem normal handle them backs up and gets behind like a wall to hide and peaks out of it just to make sure he's like yeah okay they haven't spotted me and then like you know the camera can turn and there's a trooper looking at him the whole time he saw that interaction and he saw what he did after and he's like what the hell like yeah what's what's your and what my point is of course he's like I'm taking all these efforts to hide and by doing so I've got myself caught like I think there's a lot you could draw out of that and it's really interesting and then the combos up with this oppressive system grabbing anyone and what the irony of course is that they've grabbed a big criminal by accident they don't even know yeah one of us wanted men in the galaxy and they just don't even really know who he truly is but yeah I don't know I think this is a case of that a noise the hell out of me but it wasn't done because they had no other ideas I think this was their idea like yeah yeah they want to make a point of like this can happen where you just get picked up randomly the other thing I didn't fucking like about this was that he almost dies for no reason at all and I think it's supposed to be funny oh you guys get choked by the droid right cause the droid somehow misunderstands the English of hang on to this guy says hang him it's like no we know droids are smart enough to understand hang on to him not hang him you're a robot you're smart you have a robotic brain they'll be stupid then he's like please tell him you didn't made hang me at a second what the fuck cause something I kind of like was the way that he's charged officially or all he did was speak like it's like um you know the public disruption disrupting like the operations of imperial come at like but you know the kind of thing where all I did was speak and they've managed to give me like four significant charges as a result that sound really like horrifying when you when you read them out that way um I like all that stuff I just I just wish it was more justified because I wouldn't be spending so much time on this if not the fact that this decides the story for the next like fucking four episodes while the rest of the season is very important yes this has enormous repercussions yeah all right that's that's episode seven sure is good stuff except that and but except that and but it's favorite episode but I still I like all of them with stuff of value in each of them yeah oh what I figure out oh did I miss out mon moth so sorry oh my goodness we can't forget mon moth but yeah I think you did wait no you didn't you talked about the same with luthan remember with luthan I was yeah and seeing she's got scenes of all right as a yeah so yeah she's trying to get help from an old friend and she says oh yeah of course I want to tell you something that very few people know about and he says personal political and she's like political he says I suggest you hesitate I've done more than grow weary of the empire you're with these people all the time and she says what you see what people say about me it's a clear picture isn't it I'm a polite sometimes fighting and failing to protect separatist do-gooders and battle empire overreach and irritation the lie and the person people think they know I've learned from palpatine I show you the stone in my hand and you miss the knife at your throat and being watched and I want that if everyone thinks I'm an irritation is a good chance they'll miss what I'm really doing the pretty good seed to tell you exactly how much she's aware of her position despite the fear she holds she is using the fact that she's being surveilled to her benefit she wants them to believe she's an annoying the last whole who has values that are different from the empire when in reality she's actually a figurehead in the rebellion you know and yeah she wants his help to raise money and obviously doing this as a result of what happened on all Darnie she needs to speed up everything now yeah time is of the essence you got to pick up the pace which means we can push on to the next S.A.P. PUDE somebody soon 8 W so Cassie's on his way to the prison that's that's the what we're going to be talking about it's kind of that's but the thing is like the prison arc itself is is going to be lots of fun to talk about so oh yeah that's how it begins this is an imperial factory facility he's been assigned labor worthy and the length of his stay has been predetermined on program means they have to have feet down hands on head and stay still and he says now those have been incarcerated before will be surprised by the calm sanitary conditions and our minimally invasive enforcement techniques well I'm sure some of you if not all of you are wondering how we risk standing before you without weapons it says a potent question and hopefully one we won't need to have answered very often and he just electrocutes all of them basically yeah law is the floor is lava electrocuted yeah and there's a lot of ways that it is used that is a psychologically crippling yeah I guess we'll get into more of that as we go but the the intro is that all of the guards where booties and all of the prisoners of barefoot and the floor will electrify at their command basically and there are multiple intensities and what they had which seemed incredibly painful was only the first the lowest level of the he is put into unit five to D which is level five of seven room two of seven seven tables per room seven men per table the seven tallies are the running shift totals of all other rooms on this floor you play against all of the rooms in the table the all of the tables in the room and I play against all the other rooms which is what Andy circus says and he says play and he says call it what you will the point of this conversation as you understand one thing clearly I have 149 days left of my sentence I have a free hand in how I run this room I'm used to being on the top three of all the levels you want to keep you will want to keep that happening I'm sensing you understand me it's a it I can't like do justice to his delivery Andy circus is just a great actor yes we is amazing we are going to be singing the prices of Andy circus for the next a while giving him an opportunity to play a character in the Star Wars universe after all last time he was absolutely squandered but here he gets to shine here's one of the standouts is which is presents exactly how great the performances are throughout this the show he's um this the the sort of specific and speedy efficient nature of this whole thing this factory prison and him and his introduction and how he gets everything in gives you a solid sense of like how he's a prisoner who's been molded to get all the other prisoners in high efficiency basically like what a clever idea on the empire's part to make use of prisoners and to the point of almost wanting them to like people to become criminals to just move them into these factories um because a question may be asked what are they building here um and that actually gets answered uh not sure if any of you three have figured out what the answer is though uh I didn't I didn't even think about it as there's just some mechanical parts for stuff well it's super interesting uh but anyway uh it's like crafted to perfection basically and it's all yeah it's a claw what yeah are they not they look like their claw like they have fingers and the fingers crap things not a claw but alright not a no I mean I didn't think it was a claw because it's been very solid after they put it together right well I think that they're they're just they're rigid when they're still but they could be given power I because I thought they had like fingers uh that's what I thought they were that they had like well like a like a you know a little robot claw yeah anyway making everyone focus like on the game that is being played so to speak like he said he was almost offended initially by referring to it that way but that is what it is and uh it's getting work done in the meantime and it sort of solves the problem of the entire prison it's this whole thing I mean I think we've explained enough of it to say what how representative it is of not a prison it's it's it's like it's an allegory for the broader like the Empire itself kind of like this system where all of the people are forced to compete against each other and consequently kind of like govern themselves to act in a certain way that is contrary to their interests but uh very much in the interest of the broader structure and the people who don't compete well enough of severely punished but at the same time it's like they've created a system that is in a sense self-governing all of like the prisoners you know it's prisoners who like govern the rooms and the prisoners essentially like abide by the rules and will compete against one another when the reality is that like the prison probably can't doesn't have enough staff to deal with all of them it's like a really it's it's this really cruel system that has them fighting against one another yeah instead of firing against this system that's oppressing them yeah you feel like with this prison arc you this could be like its own show you know this own little mini show that you watch like a you know it just it feels you know it's just it feels like this story in and of itself a story and a story Oh it's something huge has been running this whole time and it's a huge realization to those inside here once they realize more of what's happening it's like it's pitted all of the prisoners against each other providing like rewards and punishments based on performance against each other and it's precisely why they don't need greater numbers or greater weaponry other than the the flaws and everything because everyone's almost been convinced to focus on each other and sort of climbing over each other like crab bucket style because the Empire has has forced them into this position they've sort of forgot it's like do you when and or arrives like he's like baffled by all this doesn't really understand it but it won't take long before he's super invested in getting each of these components ready so that he doesn't have to be one of the losing tables that gets fried and instead maybe one of the winning tables that gets flavor in their food Oh yeah the fact that that's the the incentive for winning as you get flavor and if you flavor and you would like Jesus I know only do you get shocked but you get shocked with all of the other people around to see happen it's it's an incredibly cruel prison yeah it is it's a very it's a very it's a very it's a very it's a very it's a very it's a very clever clever system in terms of system in terms of maintaining control over the prisoners but it's like that's what makes it all the more just like reprehensible it's like the extents to which they've basically implemented psychological manipulation to get the prisoners to act according to you know their goals they say red is hot and two men in a cell is an instant fry which I thought was kind of interesting that means that you could kill someone if you really wanted to and you were willing to kill yourself I guess yeah I guess so yeah if you keep them in there long enough yeah you certainly could because they said instant fries like it doesn't even get verified I guess it's just the detection of two and you're dead Oh I thought fried was different I guess levels of yeah I suppose so oh it could be maybe they are saying that it only fries them as in like it doesn't kill them it punishes but I don't know yeah I would assume because it doesn't happen all the time well we do see a suicide as well don't we we do we do yeah where a guy just actually steps onto the electrocuted floor to get out of there and then the thing that's really shit as well is that some of the prisoners are like oh well that just makes it harder for our table like asshole now we're going to get tried like thanks buddy for making that choice rather than man this prison is really fucked up that when someone just yes like oh man he's going to be I'm going to be smelling him all night he's like and yeah he's like all over the shit are you you just don't care well it's just it's working right but yeah psychological manipulation of the prison is working when he says something like a killing yourself like that or railing yourself like that I got no sympathy for you or something like that one of them says you know yeah it's become so normal and so understood in terms of what you do when you do that fucking idiot what are you doing when it's like a guy has killed himself that's how hard it's gotten of course oh yeah and you find out the the the numbers the sentences all got doubled with the because of the new acts introduction to your idea find out what and or knows cause he's new right he's new and he's just got the outside that's the only way you get news is new people coming in and what exactly they don't know shit and your number triple your number you're in here till they don't want you anymore and he starts saying that and then Andy Circus is like hey shut the fuck up the fuck up and you got a distinctive pressure that Belchi is like this super cynical almost nihilistic prisoner and the Andy Circus as part of his job of being head of this like sector is to keep everybody from downing themselves morally go to keep everyone up right because everybody's got it exactly but then which is interesting because in a sense he's got well jumping ahead of it in a sense he's actually got it backwards elaborate oh you know oh well if people believe that we're never going to get out of here then that's that's gonna completely destroy any willingness that anybody has to do anything it's like well if they believe that they have no chance of getting out of of the prison that might actually prompt them to make a different choice hmm about that instead of instead of making them utterly hopeless it might actually spur them to do something yes something that they wouldn't do if they believe that there's actually a chance that things will get better as long as they do as they told they do have a couple of moments as well of showing down their team ooloff is is slow and oh he's yeah mm-hmm exactly he's an open he's having a bit of trouble there's also I think andle gets done with his portion relatively quickly and they're waiting on ooloff and just sort of like chilling for a minute and then the second he does anti-circuits just like oh just having a bit of a break are we and breathe and he's like we got a chance of winning the shift today be ashamed to waste it like he is he is on you for efficiency like it's not even close and yeah it takes the one episode and andor is pretty much fully in he's a cog now in this prison machine yeah yeah it's like a little yeah he's in that for a fade in it's like 30 30 shifts later or something and it's like yep I'm in here I'm I'm a I'm a part of the machine and he's he's working fast so let's get to the other plot lines well that's just just one one other thing in the beginning but no there's no wait is there racism or maybe a little bit no just when they first get in there you you realize that there's someone there that is not on his spot or in his place and it he takes takes a while to get to the entrance where they all arrive little little thing to keep in mind that's why I mention it hmm hmm so we'll pop over to Cyril first who's actually crossing over with Deirdre there's we both had our mornings interrupted because you keep requesting the Bureau of Standards data center to look for Cassian Andor who've claimed he was a missing fuel specialist an unresponsive engineer energy engineer a fuel purity field officer suspected of forging Imperial reports you've been here for less than a month and you filed five false inquiries and he says six actually and she says I won't count it this morning what are you doing Mr. card yeah he says Andor is a murderer and a threat to the Empire and she says yeah what isn't in Blevins report that I need to know and he says I have no idea I wasn't allowed to see the report and she says you signed it he says I was given no choice which is super interesting basically Blevins control over this sector was just done in this most simplistic and fastest way possible didn't even let the people who are part of the event comment on it and I imagine part of that was because heads needed to roll right doesn't want him making waves you'll just reported as he made those mistakes blah blah blah and so what's cool here is the Deirdre is like huh okay give him the file yeah let him read it he might actually have information that's useful that's not in the file smart very smart she'll take that lead she'll follow up on it and I quite I do enjoy the actress they cast her really well she's got what I would describe as sharp features for the role she's playing of yeah Ruth's son of a bitch sort of thing yes she I enjoy here cranking the intimidation when she's speaking to Cyril because she believes he's like an idiot with no leads she keeps like trying to like provide enough of an intimidation that it forces him to be honest about exactly what he has to offer and yeah the the report it doesn't have many of the details Cyril thinks actually adds a lot of weight to the event and he says alright stop filing requests and I'll inform the bureau of your efforts and assistance to the Empire and before she can leave he's like I was very good I solved a double murder and found the killer in two days I was overly ambitious yes but time was slipping away and the opportunity was real service to the Empire you just said it can one ever be too aggressive in preserving order gives you him I guess it was always the chance been a character that is dissuaded from the Empire's result of the events but looks like he's doubling down yeah like it yeah he wants the Empire to thrive he wants everyone to well behave almost we have these rules but I abide by them that's that's his belief and he's a yeah he's he's going for it and he says this is more important than the death of two corporate security guards I could be valuable going forward he says raise the alarm one more time and it's not going to be me you're speaking to though bit of a warning there he's he's overreaching beer yeah though she's in a meeting with the ISP and she says the star path unit was stolen from steer guard they didn't disclose its absence out of fear and it makes it impossible to discover the time of theft there are several examples of this taking place galaxy wide how interesting is that considering the attitudes in episode one that we heard about from the the lower levels of security where they don't report their murders as as they happened they don't report this that and the other as they happen because the record is much more important than the reality yep and it's now caused even more problems and exposed more almost corruption within the system she needs information like that and it's like oh we don't have it it's like why it's like because we didn't report it the way that it happened because we didn't want you guys to know we we wanted the official we wanted to just everything's fine it's just like all over the place kind of neat in terms of it it's believable I could believe that's how everything is being run and she is told to drill down find the truth that's what I've got for Deirdre for this episode which pushes us over Mon Mothma was having yourself some parties that absolute loser rich person gosh party loser serious business going on indoors in prison how can you possibly party at a time like this yeah but she's having a chat with the new friend and a husband and the husband wants a drink for everybody and she says no and he's like a Haman is working and she says as well there's loads to be done and I think it's the friend that says something like saving the Empire from the Emperor are we like and laughs and there's there's like a casual comment about because the husband's named Perry and I think like to remember him at 15 and he's like oh let's not he says the Academy fire brand how things have changed and he just looks depressed as hell and he looks annoyed and it's just this like the adding what little details they can to try and imply like she saw him as probably a very different he probably was a different person when he was much younger maybe in terms of lining up of what she wanted but at this point like we've seen he's mainly just filling out having fun doesn't really care about anything that's happening and then we get like almost like a boilerplate political discussion this the kind of thing you could possibly hear looking online these days let's be honest to some you have like Palpatine is frustrating yes but he's is is he too easily provoked is he overreactive and she says understatement this one says he says what he means which I could totally believe people being a fan of Palpatine for so like overtly honest right is the number of speeches in the fucking we want to get those he won't let him forget him oh and they go we're discussing legislation not speeches it's like what does he mean what is public order an awfully big box isn't it the Emperor's primary charge is to protect us is it not and that's what the PORD legislation will do and someone else says well how much protection is enough they said we know what too little looks like which is super interesting what does too little look like they could be referring to all different kinds of eras including the prequels to be honest in fact that's probably what they aiming for right they would argue that the maybe they talking about the Jedi who knows they want more protection or Al-Dani what do you oh it could be that as well yeah I don't know how we're looking at because I don't know if Al-Dani is big enough to have a sort of like a because when they talk about the Palpatine's choices of raising or lowering security the biggest one's probably his enactment of emergency powers right unless they're not going that far back I'd like to believe they want to incorporate a lot of this especially with how many mentions of his name there are and I mean the the timeline of how the Empire went from being from the prequels to the OT right that's like a fair yeah of course timeline to sort of judge it from but you probably at the beginning of a new hope right that the the Senate was dissolved by then yeah because the Death Star was completed yeah so they dissolved the Senate it's like yep the Republic is done basically the remnants of the old Republic don't need it anymore okay yep and I I have a feeling that part of that is they're going to possibly provide context with the seasons going on in this of like it's getting more and more difficult to control everything and so the Death Star provides that like I would really hope that they can give us even more justification for creating and using the Death Star we have because by the time that we reach because where we're at and or there was not like a huge organized rebellion but by the time of Raghwan a new hope they're organized they got like resources they got it's an army it's essentially an army yeah they attack on Scarif don't know they have a whole set of people they have a whole they have a whole yeah we have a line of if you're doing nothing wrong what's there to fear and mon says I fear your definition of wrong yep that's about it and you got someone saying these are dangerous times and so there's dangerous times are they not as do you feel under threat and he says here yes I'm at great risk of ingesting too much of this nourishing chandril and hospitality and then they all laugh I thought such a great touch they finally almost reach and a substantive part of their conversation and then they will just like chill often yeah it's all fine about it whatever because that's as far as the conversation probably ever gets is don't you think he's going a little too far don't you think that some people are getting punished where they shouldn't be ha ha ha wine wine wine now in the mouth talking a little too much too while it takes yeah we find out that she was in an arranged marriage at 15 as is the custom of I guess chandril and switch what she is and of course why she's with such a great guy yeah it's it's I they keep giving us bits of information about her and her husband which on yeah though as for this is the sort of Bix POV back in Fennix she's here contact for getting to Luthan Park I think his name is he's captured and he is subsequently captured with information grabbed from him and I quite like there's a moment where they announced that they want her and he's there and she's like oh shit and the the troopers start coming toward her and I forget his name you know his name right for any the bigger guy it's Brasso I think Brasso he he does a pretty good job of pretending as though he's accidentally got in their way he's like oh whoops ah gee gee gee gee I'm finnin' here oh trees oh god oh no I'm so sorry man oh gee yeah whoops yeah that sort of thing but unfortunately doesn't work start Bix's captures yeah and that's begins a real shitty time for Bix well see what's cool is we've had this buildup of Deidron who she is she enters Bix's story as like fucking Palpatine basically she's like this is really domineering and almost terrifying person she's going to be her antagonist so to speak and it's just interesting to see that we saw her like the first time we see Deidre she's just on her way to work right like she's she's just a person who's trying to rise and rise her intro to um the Bix is a person that's going to fucking ruin her life oh yeah she is quite scary running because she before they bring Bix in she's like no let let Park Park was his name right now let let him here I want her to see him and then as soon as she comes in she was like oh what are you doing get him out of here like pretending like it wasn't supposed to be like that's like oh you you bitch you know exactly what you're doing though yet we see Val she's trying to hang out with I'm trying to remember all the names the the cold lady who kills people from the team on I'll tell me the center into yeah center center yeah one of the cars bell yeah she she clearly wants to do fun things with her girlfriend style but center is like hardcore on the mission he said she has a line where she says I'm a mirror Val you love me because I show you what you need to see I was wondering if what she means by that is that um Val considering her values would probably want to be someone who is like 100% motivated to do everything like center is but Val isn't she's a little bit confused and then yeah swap over to the Luthan does she also say a line along the lines it's all the rebellion we just get what's left over or something like in terms of my time to to spend with each other I have fun at all I think was the implication I don't recall the line exactly you were along the line actually you've got commitment to the cause and whatever is left to us that is available that's what we take yeah exactly above the rebellion so yeah Luthan's getting a little bit worried and desperate because of andor he realizes he's a loose end that could really get him in trouble mm-hmm and he actually he goes to visit Saw Gerrera in this episode which is not necessarily something I really thought would happen but it's kind of neat it's cool to see forest Whitaker and it's uh this is going to benefit Rogue one intensely Saw Gerrera was like everyone always made for the facts like that guy seemed interesting pity he's fucking dead for like you but yeah it's like okay so we could have him I imagine he's gonna become more prominent by the time we hit like season three or whatever he'll probably be in a believe that chance of you I hope so like I said I really like him um it's cool those two sit down as clearly two very careful intelligent leaders of rebel forces and the first thing he says like so my friend the garrison at al-dani that was you that's like I was about to ask you the same thing he's like you'd never tell me if it was you uh somebody's sitting on some money and he's like if it was you I'd hope and you put it to good use and he's like would I be out here the cold if I just pinched a hundred million credits and he says exactly what you would do that's what is what you would do which to be fair probably would be right you don't want to show off but I don't want it and then he says like that's exactly what I would say if I were you if you were trying to convince me it was you it's working it's like let's just agree it was a masterpiece that he goes well now I'm sure it was you that's a fun interaction I like that I like people I like they're back and forth yeah and so he tells him you need to team up with Krieger and then he's like I don't fucking know Krieger I ain't doing that shit Krieger's obviously just a new sort of person we don't really know much about them anyway this it's more so what they mean to these characters yeah and he's like I'm not risking my people to join it with someone I don't trust and he says we've got a pull together we need the Empire angry coming down hard oppression breeds rebellion he says either of you can do this on your own but together he says Krieger's a separatist human cultists galaxy partitionists they're lost all of them lost he says what are you Luthan I've never even known and then Luthan says I'm a coward I'm a man who's terrified the Empire's power will grow beyond the point where I can do anything about it to stop it I'm the man who says will die with nothing if we don't put aside our petty differences it's so cool how much Luthan operates on his his knowledge of the meta so less to do with running on principle more to do with seeing what he says will have what result and where he should move different people in different words in different places and stuff because again all of those different groups that are mentioned separatists is just one of one of the ones that's thrown in makes you wonder sometimes because they did it in the in the battlefront game but it's just like could you imagine just a little a little group that's headed by one guy who has like an army of droids it's like a small one or something yeah detail if we saw you know all the the blasters that the battle droids had man you think the market would be flooded with those things to be finding those things they'd be like AK's you just find them all over the galaxies yeah I wish we saw them constantly popping up but would have been a great in the universe sort of reminder of the Clone Wars this massive explosion of arms on the market lowering the prices and all this you know cheap fire power getting out there it's really cool to have like one of the the bug people from very the the and it could be the implication being he's just like one of the sons of one of the leaders or something and he's got like two super battle droids as guards something like that I just be like oh that's neat you're keeping everything up to date while also adding in a bunch of new stuff because it's like the this is the transitionary period from the prequels to the OT and you have that in the you see clone armor turn up here in there the technology can match there's lots of remnants of the efforts and actions taken by events prior and it's just it's just cool to show an effort to mix the eras bit more but that takes us to episode nine nine nine starts to realize like holy shit we've not got that many left true eleven twelve that's counting bro I know thank you I've been working on that though we get I think we start with and Bix er the address going full on torture mode she says um you cast a wide net to the approach with them the empires to assume everything is a fish I take a more nuanced view I will tell you everything I know of this case and presume you will assist us Hark was brought in after being tracked through his radio he was remarkably resistant which only encourages further probing when we learned hardly what seemed like what we learned was hardly worth what he went through to keep from us and she says he attended a separatist meeting in which he became the pharx liaison and was provided the radio it would seem er the interest in his connection was in generating an outpost to acquire stolen imperial equipment you're in my net are you a fish or a thief which basically her whole speech is we're going to fucking find out the truth what he stopped us from getting wasn't even that like amazing in terms of information um you're our next lead give me what I want or a gonna end real fucking badly for you yeah give it to me or we'll take it from you either way and big says that you seem to enjoy this that she's it's like you're going to tell me everything and the reason that they know that she knows shit is cause Park has already told them and part of what I really love about this conversation is she says like tell me stuff and she's like I don't know anything you know the buyer we know that from Park and then she's like okay but I don't know him then she's like you've had six meetings just like okay but I've never seen him he comes he buys and that's that's it I don't I don't we have any interactions and then Deidre says six face-to-face meetings like she deliberately held pieces of information back to wait for Bix to lie first just like a really good make her doubt about lie because it's not working and it's just establishing to the two of them in that conversation you're a fucking liar like we now have proof that you're doing it and she says when did you last speak to Cassian because they believe that if they catch Cassian that leads them directly to Luthan which to be fair is why Luthan wants Cassian as well worried about that and she says the very worst thing you can do right now is bore me and she says you're not going to believe me anyway I suppose not and then leaves and well that was already intimidating enough but we get we get this doctor Gaust I think his name is was and it's kind of funny right we've come across this in so many stories the the torturer scene is like how did you guys handle it then what did you guys come up with and he basically just starts talking to it he says don't fear the restraints they're there to help you and it's like oh that's a good fucking start and he says Dysonites were killed as a result of refusing Imperial settlement and the missions were recorded for the sake of proof the recordings had an incredible effect on the officers viewing the event they basically went insane yep and he said like they've got multiple tracks and the sounds of these these creatures dying it can like do serious damage to a mental state of a person and he said we've isolated what we believe to be the children's sounds and those have a very specific effect doesn't take long but it won't feel that way to you um that's really quick and I was already just like what an idea for for it an aspect of torture in sci-fi but an evil bastard yeah what a sick son of a bitch he's starting long shill on it as well just talking about it like yeah aren't these little fun facts no not at all and my life yeah it's all about the strength of the dialogue Rex then he says let me know when you're willing to cooperate just shake your head if you're finding it hard to speak yeah I was like Jesus stuff like that it's like oh you know what you're doing well done good writing excellent job it's the light about that the line about the restraints and then just how they've at acquired this this torture device that is obviously so ethical stamp yet I think they said like this is brand new technology that he's trying out and it's like yeah because I think that if this went through every fucking ethical board it would have been denied and yeah credit to the actress when they hit play she like gives off a scream that's just like oh shit and it happens build up to the cream as well it's just great yeah and it looks like it's just got the power to pretty much break anybody and of course you got to be careful with introducing a torture device like that because that's you know there have been characters that were tortured in the future unsuccessfully so one of the ones that people reference would be layer right when she was it in a new so um yeah I'm not sure what the future of this this approach would be but it it seems to have an effect that could uh not be exactly what you require in terms of destroying the fucking victim but I suppose will see more of that at a later time um yeah and she says you got to keep her here and keep her alive she's the only one that may recognize access which is what they're calling what they it's kind of what they're calling luthan at this point so don't know more about because they don't have a name so they just branded him access and it's named him access it's done so casually but she just says uh I'd like to hang park show them who's in charge and some other guy just goes as you wish it's like man but he's just dead then like it's as simple as that that casual decision they don't even show it to us they just say it and I believe it's going to happen yeah well and it's going to have effects too oh yeah so yeah they say that the investigation was thorough but they have no idea on access which kind of make sense she's obviously seen his face but she can't do much more for them you know in terms of information she said the access runs a disciplined operation we have a list on all of the gear coming through ferrex he left and came back with money he had a beard and shaved sorry in reference to they're trying to make connections now with with the piece of information they would have gotten off Bix about Luthan they know it was access and combine it with the information they had from the Aldani thing and they're trying to pin Aldani as a part of it and I think part of guys is like that's a bit of a stretch isn't it the you know this this new and big thing that happened that also has something to do with this other investigation we've had running this whole time and that's when air her friend sort of comes in and helps he's like the man who did the job and Aldani was shaved and thing he had a beard but he did shave when he came back so it's like that's enough to sort of seem like they actually might be a connection and just to look into it but you may be asking why aren't they torturing Marva and they actually do cover that they say that she's way too old and frail if they did any kind of serious torture on it would probably kill her and so they'd rather user is bait they're going to have men on it keeping an eye on it for a while just in case Andal comes back to visit was to me feels like a pretty again smart thing probably what I'd do yeah if I if she was you know that kind of a lead is yeah just well later is a trap essentially if you know there's a really you know real possibility I'll come back take advantage of it but then something happens and it almost feels like like a quest event in a video game or something like it's just this thing has happened so they've captured her the the ISP have captured a red will pilot at a customs check they are it happened to be like a run of the mill check but it's eventually became something where they actually discovered he was she was gravel guy and through that he's a part of a plan to attack Spell House led by Anton Krieger so this is the guy who was mentioned earlier by Luthan who's this guy is a part of and they say if we keep the ship as much as we have this information it's going to become completely obvious that he was captured and then that that plan will not go ahead so they suggest destroying it and it's like well doesn't that still kind of raise suspicion it's like if this ship was destroyed then we sort of fuck with it to the point where the pilot died of like causes to do with like lack of oxygen or whatever and just let it float out so that they can find it it can be detected like fully confirmed as an accident and so the plan will likely go ahead and that's all like sort of sorted out as a back and forth between several characters and the ISP trying to come up with a good idea to keep the information they have while also coming across as though they didn't actually get that information at all kind of neat it is it really is neat and there will be more that over the next couple of episodes and it happens on both sides a little ongoing story yep but yeah that that's the the ISP portion of that episode good stuff I enjoy that those bits a lot it's it's fun like that you can a scene starts up and it's the ISP sort of discussion need chambery thing and I'm like yeah I'm like excited to see what they got I'm just like yeah let's do it it kind of reminds because I've been going for start right with Jay right and uh-huh we we when there's stuff like on the bridge that's happening and everyone is just doing their job and is competent at it and doesn't do anything stupid reminds me of this because everyone has like their job and they're doing it and they're being competent about it they get shit done it's just just good stuff just good stuff action and it's had effects on even the prison that we came across she says P.O.R.D. is the next step towards an unchallengeable authority I stand here to speak with open minds those of you still believe that when we speak here we are in a temple and uh I think she even get gets booed yeah there's some booed it's kind of a it's kind of a it's kind of a it's kind of a it's kind of a it's kind of a it's kind of a it's kind of a it's kind of a it's kind of a it's kind of a it's really apathetic he there's a there's a mix yeah your daughter shows it address she's got and she's like your father gonna let you wear that and then she's like he lets me do what I want like oh man every every moment they get to spend on screen together it's usually just like does it this isn't healthy this is the good no really isn't and yeah she just talks to so yeah turns I guess this is a sort of reveal Val from the operation on al-dani is actually a on mothma's cousin yeah part of the same big old family and it's like oh schnizzle and mothma clan they sort of keep each other motivated I think is part of the idea but yeah mothma's losing her her edge a little bit and she even tells Val can you please be a spoiled rich skill for a while remind people that's who you are which is kind of an interesting thing right it's kind of the Bruce Wayne the Bruce Wayne Batman thing of like yeah you need to do more shit publicly where you're not you know we had things had disappeared and stuff yeah and she said we've chosen aside we're fighting against the dark we're making something of our lives and encourage you to keep at it and so yeah that friend that she's looking to have some help with her accounts for he says essentially like her accounts are very traceable and he said we need them concrete we need cash deposits to cover up like donations that don't have obvious sort of like obviously she's given money to help the rebellions but it's like where exactly the equivalent of like Imperial IRS are eventually gonna catch up with it he says yeah she has to be really careful that stuff doesn't get tracked and you know that they show some level of effort that this is a difficult thing to do and he says we're basically gonna need help from someone who's gonna be able to give us alone deposit back and sort of have the money accounted for so they need to rely on the help of Davos Skuld and he says he's not a banker he's a thug and he says the wealthiest thug which I liked as I go yeah and she says he's gonna know something is wrong if if we want a 400,000 loan off him and then he says he'll assume you want what's yours like basically you won't ask questions much beyond it he's just like it's it's plenty of people want money for all kinds of reasons he doesn't have to be rebellion or any so yeah we can move over to Mr. Cyril see how he's he's up to this episode he's he's having a bit of a bit of a chat with his mum again as goes and he says you've been searching my room again and she says it's called cleaning and he's like you searched my box I guess he has like one box as private as private as private box yes and she says I found you a job I press your uniforms I prepare your meals I move mountains to scrape you off the floor what do I reap and she has like that whole response and then he just goes I was talking about how you were spying on me yes such a real sort of like reaction and she said she says a shadow of a son a tenant a stranger and when she finishes that he just lifts up his cereal and loudly sips what is just funny and then he says I've been promoted and she just goes I knew they'd recognize your promise after saying you so shit like I said I enjoy the conversations this I think that's it for them now but it's still you wonder if it's just like you know she does you really know deep down she really does want him to do well and be successful or something but all the while there's this that they just have their personalities clash yeah and so Deidre's heading out of the building and he cuts her off and he's like ought to thank you for my promotion and then she says I gave you a clean bill of health at the equivalent like sort of bureaucratically and she says have you been waiting for me and he's just says yes I'm not going to lie to you and she says you stalking me and he says I come sometimes to see if I could see you I thought I had ruined my life but after meeting you being in your presence I realized life is worth living which by the way really not a good thing to say if you don't want to come across this stalker is how no no please this is go away this is a established level of charisma so yeah yeah pretty much he says I want what you want she says you're out of your minds try this again and I'll have you at a cage on the outer rib like which I would say takes us to the main old plotline or closing out episode 9 which is one of the first things we see is a laugh one of the team members is them his fingers are not helping them out there are no really struggling having a bad time but and was jumping into help him out yeah I quite like the one of the team member says come on old timer and then one of them corrects him and says short timer as if to say you know remember he's he's on his way out he's nearly served his time yeah then and he says it's like what do you oh they check it I think how many shifts is he got some like 40 or something yeah it's like 41 real close I think it's 41 and almost there think when they realize that but you know like the the guy who killed himself sorry the one that zapped himself the previous night and or looks at anti-circus and says so new man for them today right it's always the next day right and it's it's so great because the way this show does it is that they're telling you something but they're not making it obvious so and he like fucking glares at him or his name is Kino in this and it's like yeah why why is he doing that and it's like because he knows why Cassian's asking that question he's trying to learn about the system it's and of course Kino is like no just do what you're fucking told you don't need to know how many men maybe on this floor you don't need to know the specifics of when people come in and out just do your fucking job it's like because again he's been molded by this system to make sure everyone else is following the rules what's part of what's so clever about it is that like it's limiting any and all work the Empire have to do exactly and he's close relatively he doesn't want to screw it up at this point yeah Kino's got 217 days something yeah 200 something and yeah just about under a year and something they discover is that the elevator that brings in new people and anything that moves is likely not friable just by paying attention to how everything is working and of course the elevator as it's coming down can act at least of the halfway point as a way to step up to the higher level and we see and or is slowly trying to sort of a sore at a pipe the bathroom yeah I'm doing that the whole time because pretty thick and then late to see we see that there's a conversation being had by everybody and they established something I can't remember what the information is but Ooluf asks like he has like a rags Biden moment basically that something is established and then he asks for that information they're all like wait what yeah he's except when I do it it's just a test to make sure that you guys are still of course you know on track and you know it's a good thing to do for people yeah Ooluf's having a lot of trouble looking like he's absolutely losing it at this point and yeah just as more examples that Melchie says they could keep us here forever if they wanted it every time he says something like that at he says it's like shut the fuck up something say that the thing definitely nothing he wants to hear he's like no no no I'm getting out of here I've been working very hard but then something happens on level 2 on level 2 like oh and they start speculating and panicking and stuff until there's enough pressure that Keto is just like you haven't got a clue what they're saying you're panicking about something on the other side of the building and it takes days for any messages to reach us is your mind melted or something like he's just absolutely pissed off at them for even coming close to suggesting that anything is out of order yeah all of the way that it's all conveyed though where they're standing looking across and it's like sign language from different levels mm-hmm and it's like yeah I don't know there's like some commotion up there and then and then I think cause like the power goes out and then comes back on like five seconds later it's like um something right here and then there's the one guy who's like you know like so like there's probably just you know some whatever going up up top and it's like so they cut the power and then Andy circus I would just keep calling many circus it's it's you know I know Loi Loi yeah and he's like what do you think is happening which is like that's the answer right what do you think is happening up there and then it's right away it's like no there's something wrong on two and and it's going so fast that they can't even decide for the information and it's coming around on the other side as well like something happened on level two but like nobody knows what it is but it just doesn't seem good that the power grows out and the rest come back on and like you find out what happened oh yeah as you said this feels like it could be its own thing like this whole environment it feels like a whole story is happening yeah finding the truth of this weird facility you know the overall tone of that scene is just that the lights go off and on that alone is just like that's something's going on and I feel like the answer is going to be very concerning and yeah you're in you're as much in the dark as the as the the prisoners are you don't get any extra information you're right there with them he asks can you know how many guards are in each level and he says you want out alive turn that part of your brain off and he says why do you think they care what we're talking about do you think they're listening do you think they they don't need to care as long as the numbers are rolling as long as we're cheaper than droids and that we're easier to replace which I mean they're literally slave labor so I probably are cheaper than than droids yeah yeah because you know as prisoners particularly you know you get work out of them you know yeah they they eventually discover more implications of what news may have happened and you even get to the point where they're all panicking so much a keynote punches melchie going to get him to shut up and yeah we get to the point where they they're working hard again and they find out that you know it's end of shift someone's getting zapped sort of thing and they all need to stand straight sort of thing on program and it sucks but Olaf has a stroke in the middle of it yeah well yeah and the other prisoners are trying to like hide him and hold him up keep him up right to protect him but he's he's collapsed and he can't do it yeah yeah and so this they head in home and of course he can barely they just trying to carry him until they just they can't anymore and Kino comes in he's like come on you want to go a few shift left so you're going home and the doctor comes in and he's like he's he's only got 40 shifts he's he's tough as an old rock and those lines to me I was just like man it feels a lot like he's talking about himself while looking at Olaf like trying to keep himself thinking about like how I'm this is me like soon enough I'll be I'll be close enough going keep everything with the is that goal is that light at the end of the tunnel it's all going to work out right so the more men that get out under his sort of control the more it like makes him feel like his eventual end of getting out of here is is to be realized sort of thing and yeah when the doctor comes in and he says can you hear me brother like to the to Olaf and and Andor says his name is Olaf and he says I don't want to know his name the whole aspect with that is I do not want to get to know any of these people like personal with everyone yeah and he says he can't save him and then he says what are you doing says I can't save him I can't save any of us it's like oh jeez what is this do my doctor we brought in almost like I'm not really a doctor so much as the I'm the guy with the syringes in this little pocket and I don't even know what to call it puts people down it almost goes across though he's it's a prisoner that got made into the quote unquote oh yeah that's right I mean here's a prisoner yeah yeah definitely yeah yeah and he says you know they ask him what does he mean by what he's saying he says soon enough you'll wish you had what he's having and yeah he says a man was released on for and ended up back onto it got out and they killed everybody onto so prisoners the assumption would be that the way it's supposed to work is that when you complete your sentence you go out and you get delivered to a different probably place or they just ask them around yeah yeah I mean yeah when they when it flew in you see there was multiple facilities pretty close to each other I think and so yeah they obviously there was a misallocation and he got cycled back into one of these places which these places are built on the knowledge that you will get out eventually and so he would have been like came from completing my sentence and they put me back in and that spread like wildfire throughout the whole level and so they just killed everybody there getting out yeah they killed everybody and the episode ends with and or saying how many guards on each level and Kino answers at this time ever more well and more than 12 it's it's it's it's it's over in terms of him even trying to like it's it's done um there's they're going to escape they're going to try yep yeah Kino is is a character though it's all of his actions and decisions were based on an eventual freedom he's just found out it's a lie though and so of course he's gonna yeah he's gonna help him oh yeah and I guess that that rounds out episode tonight it's just it feels like because like it's just it's almost like you're watching a completely different show for a little bit the prison's portion yeah the prison thing I find it very interesting and the fact that it really constructed deliberately to be like a a sort of microcosm of the broader world it's it's really interesting subplot and of course have an anti-circus that's real nice saying it get into this yeah try a character in Star Wars that a lot of things but like in Star Wars he was robbed of that opportunity and now our character he's a goofy goofy goofball who is enter of it I think that smoke is the personification of the sequels he's this absolute bullshit clown character that implies a lot more than he actually is and just dies that's that's the summary of the sequels pretty much and yeah and he does a great job with what he's given us as smoke but it's you know you still get nothing of what the powerhouse that is anti-circus is and you get a lot more of it with this one especially in this episode which is more so the prison side of things and yeah not but something happens on Luton's end which is super good stuff so Oh it's definitely it is that thing but yeah we'll start with Cassian Mr. Andor actually no we'll start with Fenix because this is a quick thing we've as we know now there's a couple of people who are very shiftly keeping an eye on Marvel because they believe the cast will visit here at some point and that can be used to capture it more aware of things and the Empire even realizes but the one thing we find out is that the doctor is being brought in several times to Marvel we catch a line of dialogue saying that he's refusing to take your medication and I think that'll be interesting to talk about as a vellip however over to Cass he's trying his best to convince no loy of what to do next he says they're afraid and he's like afraid of what they killed a hundred men to keep them quiet what do you call that he says that's power and he says power doesn't panic which it is interesting because you know you'd think of if a hundred men found out about the truth on a on a level is the correct decision to kill them all or is the correct decision something else I guess the worry is that especially with those waiting areas that the word can go further than just one level yeah everyone doesn't believe in it everyone stops working yeah it could because we're like all right fine you know the truth we're called die like yeah okay but obviously the system they have going right now is much more efficient so that's probably why they they don't wait but yeah then Andal says another thing that again just characterizes them as a smart boy he says they can't be surprised again they need to they need what we're making here tomorrow will be the lowest the guards will ever be because it's only going to increase from now on after and he says you don't even have a plan and he says when they replace Oolaf that's that's that's when we enact the plan because I'd rather die trying to take them down than die giving them what they want Oh that's pretty good for motivation you know because like the alternative is you just work till you die and you give them get tons of resources that they wanted anyway mm-hmm obviously a line that can expand pretty hardcore into other mm-hmm so they head back to cells and everyone's kind of panicking about the reality like Oolaf is dead and Andal's not doing a very good job explaining exactly what's going on and Kino's just panicking until he manages to sort of settle up a bit and gives them a bit of a speed Shouts out no one is getting out man just the fucking face he has on when he says it yeah I don't remember it but mm-hmm it's so it's great great day not having a great day and he sells it this is the kind of thing that makes actors as far as it is like you know that he would have read the script he understands with the role he's playing and he has to come across as though his whole life has just been upended he's having an existential crisis and he has to gain the passion to yeah to encourage himself and all the other men to basically kill themselves in the hopes that they don't get killed this is this is an incredibly difficult portion of his life and having an actor to be able to portray that is what makes this believable man is uh is having trouble this um it's pretty much all of this is killing him but he's got to lead them because that's that's kind of his role the the one thing I'll say about this I there's a couple of things I think worth trying to highlight it might be for you guys uh I'll try where I can as well but mm-hmm everything that happens here is reliant on the fact that there's no audio surveillance or video surveillance of any kind and as much as the system is built with that in mind that they don't need it that's not usually reason enough to not have it no it's um I would count it as lucky they don't have it because obviously everything would have fallen apart if they were surveillance of any kind and does it hurt to have surveillance it's just it doesn't it surprises me the Empire wouldn't have at least a couple cameras you know this shit is that's some low-tech yeah the audio stuff I can that's the big one it's um the kind of justification I could expect let's say there was audio and video surveillance what our Andal could argue is like yeah of course there is for everything they're not listening to it though it's not like they've got people scrolling through every last conversation that happens here and someone said like oh you know you could knock out the the idea of an AI filtering through for keyways but even then you can just speak normally while giving off over a lot but you know that's something I guess I could find somewhat believable but even then they'd probably keep an eye on people after the event of the or two thing to see what people are discussing and I mean if the way around it would be to just have them speak quietly and show discretion yeah I actually think I would almost enjoy it more if they were like listen everybody just behave as usual and and everyone speaks a little bit more in code but not not like exclusively don't necessarily need to it's just that I'd find it more satisfying in terms of how this plan is run and completed if they actually subverted surveillance as well which is more than possible I've watched a lot of a prison break type shows they do they do all kinds of cool crazy plans in fact of any of you guys seen prison break the show no I have not no a song I might say a couple of episodes I would not mind watching season one again sometime because I remember enjoying the fuck out of the out of that season but I can't remember if it's bullshit or not that always seems to me like one of those shows that had a high concept that could get you a season but the more you try to track it on the more it would get and yeah there's a lot of shows like that season two is all about what they do next it's not like they break out of a prison it's just that they each of them have to survive now that they've all you know they've got the police chasing some stuff and then you find out there's more going on than just what they did and stuff season three they all end up back in a prison they have to break out and it's like oh of course that's a bit silly I got a prison break again of it's like a completely different though that's desperately trying to stay alive because of it I mean yeah that could be an interesting sort of case study anyway they seem to have engaged they're going to be doing a plan they're going to have to wait until the person's replaced and they're going to be doing things I I suppose I'm not sure how to do this I guess we should explain it piece by piece and then people can come in with anything they want to talk about but the plan amounts to and was going to break a water pipe in the bathroom so it spreads water across the whole floor the intention there is that when they activate the fry of the floors it'll short circuit and basically destroy the system and it won't be friable anymore that I think isn't based on anything they know they're just guessing that that's how it works obviously it could have been that that's not how it works it could have been that it just turns on and off and that the water if you're standing on it will make it so it's a bigger shock I guess I don't know yeah I assume that it would short out things I think I would have maybe preferred it being based on more solid knowledge because it's it's kind of you don't know that's going to happen it's a good guess but it could be something else happens you know like and it doesn't necessarily work that way or someone mentions it and they say well we got it's our best chance or it's our best all you need is the some guy is like oh yeah once someone spilled a bunch of shit on the floor and it stopped actually being functioning as a short suit you know you know just it's happened all the way and it's like ah we can use that that's the sort of ways usually build that sort of thing again I have no problem with it I just would have preferred it was based on something they knew as opposed to the whole plan centers on something we don't even know will necessarily work we just kind of hope it does but it does work and yeah when someone is being brought down as a replacement they and or jams one side while the other side is like still trying to operating once someone steps on it and that works as a sort of platform to be able to reach the higher up level and then that's pretty much it in terms of at that point it's just overwhelm them yeah a lot of people die oh yeah it's not a great time oh so yeah I guess what happens then is that they you know several characters we've met and understood this time they get killed with several characters managed to get through it a lot including and or of course they move through the facility and get to the command center at level at seven or eight or something and basically powered down all of the the floors and open up all the doors and tell everybody to get the fuck out basically yep I think highlights for me and just not to give us a big speech yeah just be just very cool yeah who the Kino loy being the the guy who guided them through being subservient is now the guy who's encouraging them desperately to fight back to rebel to get out to and not only that but to help each other exactly yeah you see someone like falling down and needs help pick him up pick him up work together yeah he says start climbing they don't have enough guards and they know it if we wait until they figure that out it'll be too late we'll never have a better chance than this and I would rather die trying to take them down than giving them what they want which is obviously a broader statement about the the whole conflict oh the empire doesn't have the power at that point to govern the whole like if everybody decided if everybody who felt that they hated the empire decided like no enough of this they'd win it's kind of it's kind of the reason why they're building the Death Star right that's their ultimate contingency but until that happens there was an opportunity to actually stop everybody what to realize that they had that power that there aren't enough of them to stop them yeah and I think it's really awesome but at least in the prison yeah it works super well what Andal said to encourage him to start fighting is what he uses as part of his speech he put it in there yeah he says they fried a hundred men on level two we know that they're making up the sentences as they go along we know that no one outside of you knows what's happening and we know now that when they say we're being released we're being transferred to some of the go and die and that ends today is only one way out right now the building is ours you need to run you need to climb you need to kill need to help each other see someone who's confused someone who's lost get them moving and keep them moving until we get this place behind us there are 5,000 of us if we can fight half as hard as we've been working we'll be home in no time this is a great speech for everybody to get ready to changes how it's not that great surprise he gets and do it yeah even even cast is like come on man you go have more than that and then delivers more and more and yeah and so they get to the the big old exit and that's when the keto says I can't swim which yeah it's I suppose more of a possibility and that will than it is an hours because you could have come from a planet that just doesn't have you know big that's of water I guess or much of it to the level of I mean lots of people can't swim on Earth like lots of humans can't swim well yeah it's just a lot about likelihoods it could be that when you're on Earth it's a little bit less likely I think when you the selection people in prison it's just someone can't swim especially because you can just be like is it is it easier or harder to float when you're like really fat I think if you fatter you got more buoyancy right like easier right easier yeah I think it's easier the part that I because I'm fine with him not being able to swim I was I was less fine with like the whole Andal can help him right it could be like okay well you can't stay here so you got to drop with me and I'll I'll stay with you and you know give you you can doggy paddle right isn't that like the thing that anyone can do when when you when you can't swim um I think it's probably one of the most basic semi natural things you could do if you're trying to not die in the water so that would be my automatic like things like you know you're gonna have to again can't stay here so jump with me and then we will uh we will get you in a position where you can at least not drown because yeah you can like yeah if you've got a couple people who are just helping them you're kind of lift him up they can they can keep him up but of course they just as the people who care about him realize he can't swim they unfortunately but I'm hoping that the really is just going to be that we'll see him at another time we're not going to see I yeah I feel like he's got a drive to say yeah he say like help about the point of here like please make Keenoloy join the rebel alliance please please please yeah that'd be really cool keep him around give Andy circus give him give him more time and then we get the vision and then we have a really excellent shot of the prison the symbol like from up top looks like the empire but it's leaking you got all of these are you've got all shit and then you make that connection you're right yeah all of the people swimming out it's leaking it's bleeding good shit is good well that's the thing when you've got great writing at conservative cinematography like this really well well I was reading I don't know if you guys know but be a McCreary released like a blog post on his inspirations and choices with the music in Ragnarok and there is this moment I was reading it and he says he wasn't a hundred percent sure of what his plan was for I can't remember if it was like I'll find or whatever place and he says and so I did what I often do and I went to the script I went to the story to find inspiration it's like I knew it of course is how it works because you and you couldn't do it for rings of power you were like let's look at the script what is this sludge what am I supposed to do with this I don't know what's happening yeah you're right writing is foundational and it can inform just the words on a page oh yes so let's have a look here we got that's that that's obviously Cass is out of that episode we got Deirdre we find out the ship that they were talking about in the previous episode it's been towed and I think they say like they're going to stay away from the whole situation just keep an eye on it and finally enough is a guy who's in the room and he says well no we should inspect the ship as that is the least suspicious thing we could do we should come across as interested in it but leave it alone and I think even part of guys like yeah good good good shout what's cool is the guy who suggested that is actually a mole oh my goodness he's working Lenny than luthan bump oh yeah bump oh shit here we go we'll get that and he's heading down oh yeah no no we're going to knock out gonna knock out Monmothma first which is she has a chat with that a Thugman as she was called it oh yeah I quite like this conversation again her performance is fucking top-notch she's so she's so harsh while being incredibly civil yeah she fucking hates this guy and he knows it too and he opens saying one of the indulgences of great wealth is freedom from other people's opinions and her response is you've made your point like it's so rude basically he's just like casually able to chat and she says like and then he says yeah everyone says you're very direct and and she says yeah he says I can get you money pretty much invisibly the money is yours and you know it shouldn't be something that tarnishes your reputation like thumbs up woohoo yay haha la la la and then she's like okay what's the fee he's like no fee no fee charity isn't it and then she's like I insist and he says I refuse well yeah it's like if there's no next line a lot though is what you want she says I don't want to owe favors he says that might be the price yeah aha so cool there's a the acknowledgement in the matter of when I don't pay for something that means I owe you and he's like yes so that's what it'll cost it almost feels like the words of folding back in on themselves in terms of following the conversation but it all makes sense we know what's being said here and she says come on what's the price and he says I want to come here again he's like yeah that's fine he says I'd like to bring my son and she fucking like she's looking like a ghost she's like you can't be serious and yeah she's already skipped to the part of what he's getting at immediately it's just it's I like that shit so much first I was like wow he must be a little bastard yeah he says I'm just asking for an introduction opposition sometimes make decisions for us don't they senator I love how much threat can be in a sentence that's so so so so so so and she says is that your only offer and he says yes then she says all right by that he goes okay about her she's like I'm not thinking about it it's like all righty and I think he says like that's the the first thing you said that's not true for yeah mm-hmm just seriously excellent acting throughout the scene I really like him a lot he's got this he he looks like a he reminded me of homelander just the way he looked yeah I just really liked is a and also when he talks to typically they're a very you know high-class people just the outfits they're also luxurious and rich people looking yeah and I think this scene more so than many we've seen with her before this felt like she was really fighting is trying this is her vision of it right like trying to make deals and move things around the way that she wants but also having to come across is pretty strong it's I'm hoping to see more of political powerful mon moth merges as time goes on yeah she's coming she's kind of running a Game of Thrones type situation while Andor is more of a action packed smuggler thief type stuff yeah good stuff on both of their parts and like I said it's it's a cool conversation because it's like two running at the same time yeah back over to luth and his partner basically says there was a mark on the fountain and I checked and the the thing is broken and he was like oh I guess we're having a meeting the implication being that that's how it's signaled that there's a meeting to be had with his informant being me from me the ISP I just I just think that's a cool way of doing it it tells me that they care a lot about staying secretive you have to make a mark on some fountain that she walks by each day to check and then once you check that you need to find out whether or not some object in some area near there is broken or not and she says what if it's a trap and he says if it's a trap we've already lost pretty simple and what's cool is when lemmy actually meets with them the first thing he says is if it's a trap press to 15 like giving him one last chance to get out at the time now the problem with this is that I like the entire conversation all of it every last piece of thing that says back to each really really like this yeah this is good stuff mm-hmm when when breaking down why dialogue is good and stuff right like whether or not it's a trap and he doesn't press anything and then he just goes first of all congratulations your daughter healthy and beautiful you must be pleased now because I'm so clever I was like are you saying that let him know he knows and the best not be fucking me over because I know you have a daughter and I can do stuff and then his first response is just is that supposed to scare me like like even the you know there's no you're not necessarily having to dig much out like even the characters are smart enough from the writer's point of view that they would pick up the subtext of sentences as well and that they've been doing this long enough he knows how this works and he says like you become a father is it off with mentioning and he says it's not fair you knowing watching me do you ever think how it might feel from my side and he says I think about you constantly is why we're here tonight others he said why are we here tonight but I was thinking about the whole I think about you constantly line is I think about the whole I think about the whole I think about the whole I think about you talking about how how you have view on me you are watching me you're judging me and it's like I don't think Lonnie realizes like you understand that every second you're doing anything my neck is on the line like of course I'm watching you like it's yeah the relationship we have puts me in constant danger like as much as it's annoying that I'm watching you it's like anything that happens to you affects me the yeah he tells Luthan about Deirdre like you you pretty much highlights her is like a problem because of how passionate she is he talks about what happened on ferricks that that these there's a link how she's registered Luthan as axis heart a gas even likes her and it's funny Luthan's reaction is oh this is good encourage it she's she's not even on the right track she won't find shit like oh then he keeps at the end of every sort of part of this he says this can't be why you're here and he keeps giving him more information so he's like rebel pilot was captured they know about Krieger's plan and Luthan just says well that's 50 men but you're worth more than that so we're gonna have to let them capture them or kill them and yeah you get a moment of this this Lonnie guy realizing like that's awful and it's like well what are you gonna do the reality of we've got how do you take care of like a mole is that you've got to be very careful about what information you end up using basically I think it was Game of Thrones actually came up with something that was cool for this right so the when Tyrion was in charge of a lot of things and things landing he you his plans were getting subverted you didn't know how so you had three people that he would tell the plans that he trusted and so what he tried one day was to come up with a plan and he told the three of them a different plan but who was going to be involved and then when the plan leaked he then knew who was the leaker stuff like that it's just really yeah yeah cool this is what I'm in World War 2 this is what the allies had to do when they finally solve the enigma code they had to use it in a very intelligent way and catch on that we'd crack the code and then you know change the whole system and everything we had to keep them thinking that we didn't know the code when we actually did just intelligent writing instead of being like mall give us all information you can forever it'll be great and yeah Luthan just sees it as like it's obvious calculus we can't change the plan at this point because we need to maintain you you are a great resource and the reality is that there's a lot of guys like I really can't keep fucking doing this I've got a family I can't handle this anymore and Luthan basically tells him you've got no choice you're in it now it's too late yeah you're in I mean you're kind of like Mon Mothman away it's like you're you're in this is a even as you say the words you know it's impossible we can't let you go we can't spare you we've been grooming you for too long yes you've been alone but your career has profited greatly from information at this point through sacrificing it's like it doesn't matter that he's a person that's that's done you're an asset now yeah and he says Krieger's men will die to make sure your daughter has a father you're trapped Lonnie there's no pleasure in saying it but you're not going anywhere and Lonnie says my sacrifice means nothing to you does it and then he says what what's sacrifice of you made what do you sacrifice and here we go yeah so good he has a speech that's pretty intense and it gives you everything you need to know about Luthan as a character and it was impressive not just again for the writing but also the delivery can't go wrong with with Stellan Scarsguard of course but this kind of speech maybe think like I could understand why he would be passionate about this character at this point in terms of it's a shame I thought he would have preferred running around naked at Stonehenge but I suppose I suppose this is this is alright I guess all the dark world reference right there didn't even I don't even know if you knew that's what that movie is from that clip I mean nope nope nope nope I that that movie is so forgettable that you can watch scenes from it and not know that it's from the door of the dark world yeah I guess he's probably sad he can't do that anymore compared to this Oh what a shame yeah I guess we'll go through his speech first and try and talk maybe a bit about what it means so says um what do I sacrifice calm kindness kinship love I've given up all chance of inner peace I've made my mind a sunless space I share my dreams with ghosts I wake up every day to an equation I wrote 15 years ago from which there's only one conclusion I'm damned for what I do my anger my ego my unwillingness to yield my eagerness to fight they've set me on a path from which there is no escape I yearn to be a savior against injustice without contemplating the cost and by the time I looked down there was no longer any ground beneath my feet what is my sacrifice I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them I burn my decency for someone else's future I burn my life to make a sunrise I know I'll never see and the ego that started this fight will never have a mirror or an audience or the light of gratitude so what I what do I sacrifice everything you'll stay with me Lonnie I need all the heroes I can get fantastic we even begin he's basically explained he's not even a person really anymore he's like a player on the board he doesn't get to live a life and that's the sacrifice you have to make you're no longer yeah able to do anything human you have to do everything according to reaching that ultimate goal which makes you sacrifice literally everything honestly when he says like calm kindness kinship love I think he's just talking about do anymore yeah yeah not only can he not do it in terms of like that it won't allow him to achieve his goals he's kind of incapable of it how can he be calm ever like with the life that it's like all kinds of things that come into right like start in relationships you can't be doing that that you know that drag someone else in that's leverage against you and it makes it so you have more people to take care of just don't a good idea it's like making friends like was tough because anybody it's like yeah because if you if you look at the scenes we had with him this whole time he's either playing a role and curson as the the antique shopkeeper guy and has to keep that up and when he's not doing that he's somewhere in space doing rebellion shit and needs to put on another face basically was like I'm that hard as that that needs to get like I think it's like the only character we don't really see like main characters that we don't see having like an actual like home like a roommate children is always like on on the clock always job yeah it's always on the job I think you're right you you pretty much just always doing something that in it's the empire of the rebellion it's a quite stressful situation I would say when he said it's an equation he wrote 15 years ago so he started up in terms of trying to subvert the empire in different ways and there's so many lines in here that it's so interesting to me like his who he was then set him on a path that that person would never have to deal with the results of yeah exactly that's a different person he's gone the the the the the the course that he set upon has Chris turn him into somebody that is totally different from that person the person just doesn't exist what they wanted so the seeds for his own destruction in a sense but he didn't know it until it was too late and now he's stuck he has to stay committed to this path so he's got it's everything now he's got rid of everything for it that's another reason why he has to continue and yeah this the that that very eager will never have a mirror or an audience or the light of gratitude like a lot of what would even make him praise worthy is already gone from all of like the horrible decisions he has to make including about kreger right now it's like 51 men are dead just because and I could save them but I'm not gonna yeah like it's that simple and yeah like what when he says I burn my decency for someone else's future just like he's going to be making all kinds of horrible decisions using the tools of his enemy destroying his own soul so that they can be a better world for better people people that have the chance to be better than he is and it's I mean it's a few he's not even going to see that future he probably won't make it and what's weird is I actually saw this there was a post I think it was the more subreddit like I hope they talk about this speech in and or and I was just like oh yeah obviously and I checked all the like comments that was against it and it said it was really hard to listen to considering he's talking to someone whose daughter is in the cross here is when he has nothing like that to sacrifice ah um the whole point is that he can't even generate a life to sacrifice it's all gone it's already gone there's nothing left except for him to continue to be alive to achieve his goals that's it if anything it benefits him to try and remain as detached from anything emotional or human as possible cause it makes him better at his job and that's part of the realization he's destroyed everything that made him human and the whole goal is to create a world that's better for humanity so this is what makes luth and probably my favorite it's it's he's a result of trying to make things better it's like almost fucking ghost of a person yeah he he represents the element of gray that exists in this conflict and the and the cost like the real embodiment of the cost not just in terms of you know like I guess more overt obvious things but his soul that is just like yeah he's had to sacrifice every aspect of his being for this goal and I mean he's he might not even get to even see or like when I say good work I mean the the positive outcome of the of what he's doing of like trying to free the galaxy as like he said nobody will remember him that like that nobody's gonna sing songs about him he's just gonna be forgotten it's a total sacrifice of everything that he could ever have will be which is almost of this goal something we know to be true because yeah luthan's not brought up in any of the future content obviously he's a new character but they're gonna build it presumably so that when he dies it's gonna be I would consider it quite an important moment however they're gonna kill him because he's obviously not gonna make it ultimately like what what exactly how do you spend a life like that you need to make it so that he does something incredibly significant that has just no coverage at all and no one will ever know about what it was probably that's probably the kind of death you'd give a man like that but um yeah the I share my dreams with ghosts it's like that line yeah in with ghosts and of course the I burn my life to make a sunrise I know I'll never see it's just a a different version of the plant the seeds to tree you'll never see the shade of sort of yeah yep yeah uh if it was unclear he basically feels like he's already given up everything and he knows he's doomed yep he'll do what he can and and I just love that it finishes off with him saying I need all the heroes I can get because element to make all of this worthwhile that's that's how the episode ends out pretty much and that's 10 out of 12 10 and it is one of the one of the best episodes of the of the show yeah it's good stuff there's too many payoffs too many really awesome payoffs it's um it's the kind of thing that revs you up to for like all right how the fuck is this going to end is mm-hmm is you know you just got the prison escape we've got ratcheting up with the I ISP this thing with Krieger and then Luthan making this whole speech just like what exactly is our two episode finale going to do to sum up all of this and well I guess we'll be about talking about it but since this seems like a natural point we're at six hours 20 ish minutes so nice long fab since we got two more episodes to go but I'm afraid Mr. Fringolius won't be able to maintain this because I do really like this show and there's still a few things left in the last couple of episodes that are that are worth delving into but alas that won't I don't get to before you go do you want is there anything you want to say in relation to this show or maybe how you what you think of it overall because I mean we're 10 episodes in so it's not exactly going to be shocking to anybody about it now well like I said at the beginning I really really like it I suppose the more interesting thing it's one of the best star war stories one of the best like in general even taken you know like away from just the Disney Star Wars framing is one of the best stories that they've told in this universe it's super interesting and as well realized like that the script is so it the script is very strong even though obviously there are some plotting issues here and there but like the work and attention that's being given to character isn't is really time in Star Wars where we've got to really delve into characters and especially tying in the arcs at all of those characters are being sent on all of which are very disparate into some central themes that are really compelling I'm just very impressed by it and having now finished the show you know the the whole season I'm I'm like I'm looking forward to more and or like that's that's like a corner of this universe that I'm at least looking forward to because elsewhere I don't care anymore like I don't expect to soka or Mando season three or any like I'm not know it's just but this this isn't a League of its own compared to all of those other it's inspired it's like it's a real story that you had a bunch of creators who are passionate and talented working together and using all of the resources that are available to them with like an IP like Star Wars the money the talent visual effects set like cinematography that they were able to leverage all of those tools and great actors as well like it's worth emphasising the performances across the border really great and there are a few people who were excellent and all of that's been leveraged in service of a story because they had an idea like that they had a story that they wanted to tell and wouldn't you believe it it was like yeah it's it's it's the most interested I've been in Star Wars in a long time but it's mainly just here like it doesn't it don't extend elsewhere Mando season three is up next and I'm whatever it's gonna but I mean it will be back to that other form of production where we'll be like aah yeah we'll just have to wait for another couple of years just waiting for and or fingers crossed that they are I mean the fact that they've said so many times they have a plan for the course of like several seasons that's the kind of thing that gets me optimistic especially given how deliberate so much of what happened this first season was it goes far as saying as well this shows the lack of bias I think in a lot of people that Andal had everything against it everything possible and yet it's slithering through a lot of people saying like well no actually it is good like like you know like the idea that there's just no standards you just hating on Disney style was forever like there's so many people who've said like well no Andal's different and it's clearly different like this is very evidently different even in those first couple episodes we're sort of there like even before the first episode was done it's like you are you're different like there's just like a caliber of writing that's just better there's the first mean there's subtext like book of both bed and it goes beyond that like it's worth emphasizing that you have this huge ensemble of characters and they all feel distinct and it's it's it's um it's the script giving them a voice and then the the actors being able to take that and to forge all of these characters who were distinct like Cassian is not Luthan who is not Mon Mothma who was not Kino like it's it's it's just everybody everybody feels distinct they all feel well characterized by time but nevertheless we get to explore a whole bunch of disparate perspectives on the rebellion on the empire the state of that galaxy it's it's just a refreshing I'm I'm a big fan I really really enjoyed it it's the best Star Wars thing in a long time in a long time longer than longer than Disney Star Wars oh yeah the best Star Wars we've had in 40 years well careful rags that's does it beat the beat returning the Jedi the question as I think return to the Jedi hinges so much on the the last of Yoda and Luke Vader I mean I would that that's worth a lot it is worth a lot that's the thing the thing that like it's like Empire blew the doors open on like Star Wars as it exists right now doesn't exist without Empire yeah um and return of the Jedi delivers a lot of really great routes and there's also the fact that those are films and this is a TV show there's more time how do I factor in the air what they achieved with the time that they have in a show versus a film you know hmm I'm not sure it's hard to say I don't want to but we're it's actually something to think about like it's not yeah because it's better than proof by the way like pretty obviously and the fact that Disney made it but it's like a thing that emerged in spite of being Disney Star Wars that's I think that's the only way to describe it it is so different in terms of how they made it clearly and what it is compared to Boba fat Mandalorian and Obi-wan Kenobi that it's this it's it's this outlier I mean amongst Disney Star Wars it doesn't give me any indication of any like optimism for any other projects that they work on and the hope is that there is enough recognition at Disney that people like this and and that this is quality that they're not going to interfere with it and be like yeah man like you could have had more viewers if you through and like you know if you through and like some recognizable Jedi or some other character because you know like imagine damn I can't I'm just really happy with it I'm I'm glad it exists it just it puts a smile on my face we've got something that's actually taking itself seriously it there's a story that they want to tell and it provides us with a lot of great characters through which we can examine this universe big old fan I would recommend it yeah is your recommendation yeah yeah well we will talk more about that once we get past the next two episodes but we'll have to see you the next time for free by the way you need to talk about the really cool touch that there's a video that talks about the opening title card and the theme because we haven't talked much about the music but I really like the music in this in this show I you too I like the theme I'm a big fan of that one well I mean you can I say it now if you want the the thing well so there's a YouTube video that compiles that if you every single title card for Andor has it's the same theme it's it's still his theme but it's always different different instruments different intensity themes together and and like all of them slot together to create this brand new sound it's it's so good that it had to have been deliberate it's so good that it had to have been a deliberate choice but it's like that I can believe that that attention to detail exists but yeah like it's it's just attention to detail across the borders it's just like a way to describe Andor for for whatever floors that there may be that's neat in everything fat but that at the end that's cool it's like a Pokemon yeah Andor good that's it me Merry Christmas yeah yeah everybody out there and yeah next time have a good chat about more of the Andor stuff you'll like it but but but but he goes and now it is honest to bring it home all right so but I don't know who's gonna be tired tomorrow nobody gonna be tired you got the power of Andor behind you or something that's right you have to sacrifice everything though again the order in which I'm trying to do the events of episode 11 a sort of a little bit jumbled but we'll start with we find out Marver is dead and yeah the droid sad just freaking out he's super sad and super perfected by I don't know I actually felt kind of bad for him if I'm from to the the droid he's he's not able to handle any kind of stress really you see that throughout the the whole show he's just constantly upset and all he ever wants is for people he likes to be around that's it yeah yeah as we'll soon find out and so he's not handling the idea that Marver's gone since he's probably with her every single day forever yep yeah that was pretty sad and they say to him like you know you got a you got a to pull together be the daughter of Pharx require your assistance that's gonna regard something soon enough we'll find out what that is in the next episode but anyway Cassian's plotline he's running from the old prison and they come across two aliens who are fishing and his friend says if we just sprint for their ship we can steal it because they'll be too slow to get to us to stop us and Cassians like that's kind of an insane plan and he's just like let's just do it and so they're like okay and they start sprinting but unfortunately for them these aliens have devices that are designed to capture things that are running I guess and is interesting they're like slimy nets basically yeah it's it's it's just it's just slimy nets there's known there's no other comparisons that we should even have to make is what you might be about Oh my goodness gracious they're kumnets kumets so yeah that's really fucking unfortunate then and then the aliens are like they come close to seeming as though they might kill them but then they're like nah you chill we don't like the empire either in fact wherever you're going we'll help you get there I don't know man I was just like and okay moving on yeah that I don't know what it is like I think there's enough references now to be like you know we'll build in really loving it character top notch theme on point what are we doing now a lot of they don't know how to connect the larger set pieces to each other in terms of the stories do they like how do we get the how do we get into the prison arcs like he gets captured okay how does he is how does he move from the prison arc back to like the main arc in pharx aliens just give them a ride yeah after he gets captured but not really and the funny thing about this is that it's not that hard to write sort of you know easier to digest and more consequence level writing for the connecting pieces this me feels a lot more like a cop out just um because these aliens are kind of interesting especially the way they speak is very unique but they just very like it for a moment there it's like oh you made a really bad decision almost die but then it turns out you're not going to die you're in fact going to get everything you need like okay all right yeah it's the connective threads for some of these little plot lines that need the work yeah and then he uh Cassian goes back to that little apartment he placed he rented out I guess and there's two people in there the two aliens yeah and he sneaks in while they're sleeping and grabs his little care package nobody found it I guess nope and it's kind of crazy that they didn't find it because yeah it's there's loads of credits in there and the gun and I imagine like maybe even fake IDs or whatever but just yep that looks like man just just a cleaning person just going around like I'm going to clean up there today it's like oh shit what's that it's super easy to find too yeah you can see it if you walk in the room it's not as well hidden as you might imagine I'm trying to get a good shot of it actually uh yeah anybody rented that place out or person cleaning it you're right yet they would they would find that shit and he's not hasn't been here for a while though yeah I don't know I just thought that was awkward and very lucky uh yeah so then he uh he contacts the guy in ferrex the controls transport and stuff and that's where he finds out his mom's dad rather unfortunate of course uh he tells the dude he's with got like stuff to sort out but that dude says like you know we have to tell people people have to know about this uh people just don't know what's going on in those prisons but they they seriously need to and he says we should split up double our chances and uh casting gives him a bit of the credits I guess to help him out credits and a gun and a blaster yeah if they go I thought it was interesting by the way there's a shot of casting staring out into the uh the ocean with the sun I was like I'm pretty sure not what he sees before he dies in Rogue One looking out to the beach yeah I'm pretty sure that's the visual and so I wonder if the idea here is that this is the moment where he's committing to being um a rebel basically hmm mm-hmm everything he's he experienced in the prison and then he's committing to go back to to Phoenix and he and his goal is obviously to see Luthan as he does at the end of this show so I imagine that's the idea that visual being the book ending the start and end of his rebellion sort of thing not sure I'd have to I'd have to look into it further but I could believe it because this show and it does that sort of thing yeah I think it's deliberate you know that probably is what they're trying to do um alright as for Deidre she says they're asking for also and tells that they're asking for send off for Mava they want a funeral but they already know that they won't be allowed he says no no allow it put it in a box and keep it full coverage it's a she sees it as a big opportunity to debate but yeah a net so to speak which I quite like again I think that's a good idea if I were here I'd be like yep that's probably what we should do big smart as for Bix her mind has basically been scrambled by the torture and she looks awful yeah she's not having a good time feel super bad for her I can't imagine just getting session after session of torture of the manner of listening to children screams of a variety of alien that makes you insane not fun and she's entirely expendable they don't give a shit about it and help her feel bad for it and they ask her if Anton Krieger is the one that is axis and it's not that even look like she gives a clear answer but of course there's not much they can gain because either she says he is which is a lie or she says he isn't they just continue looking for axis yep to lose lose the way for her yeah it's not like she gains much yeah Val uh Luthan because she has information which is that Cassian's mum has died and this event like Marva dying is making everybody realize like who wants Cassian that there's a good chance he's going to be showing up for her funeral mm-hmm it's a decent bet but there's a lot of people around um and then over to Mon Mothma here her daughter's doing some weird cult fleaminess um nice I guess it comes across as cult fleaminess to us because we're not familiar with the culture but she says it's something to do with the elder a traditional cultural thing and Val is like what the fuck like oh she's she's taken with it she wanted to do it so here you go um and she explains that uh she was essentially like fueling Luthan's different operations but that uh one of your ledges was off balance and so she needed help and after Al Dany her accounts have essentially been frozen um and so Tay is the guy she hired to get help and he's discovered in her accounts that there's way more that's a problem than just like one account in terms of uh what can be traced so she's basically explaining to Val why she did what she did that she's found a solution mm-hmm yeah and then there's just another because there's so many examples of it uh the daughter turns up and she's really excited to see Val but she like gives a little glare to on Mothmer as as walks up you can see like this is just happy environment she loves her daughter stuff but yeah this uh even even it's cool what you could have because I I did it with Adi Circus just now there's a couple with plenty of actors but um when you can get an evidence of how good the acting is from still frames that's when you know you're in a really good position for their performance yeah um yeah this is the face of a woman who knows that she's going to have to use her daughter to benefit her position politically as well as that isn't exactly in favor of her very much as it is so mm-hmm um so yeah we get Cyril's plotline it's a small update but basically um Linus has contacted him as that uh his friend that he still has contact with in I guess ISP or whatever security thing is a way that uh Marva's died and that he believes is a good chance that um asking which show up and so that's their chance to capture him to make up for the mistake that they made as you can see this episode is basically everybody sees that Marva dying is a chance to get Cassian yep big old setup to get everybody to to place but one of the things you notice about this is that he's uh not looking too fantastic um he's seems he's been completely demoted obviously they all were but he's uh he's in like a steel works type place he's not as well as well shaven kind of foundry mm-hmm the connection is really but he's like trying to remain positive and give him this information so it's useful and I kind of feel bad for the guy right like he was only trying to enforce what he thinks are good laws to maintain important order for a society that's protected and uh he did he did his job and to be fair he did it the best out of all of them there and he got uh as harsh a punishment as anybody and he's still trying to keep it going like I don't I don't know exactly what story they're gonna tell for him going um what I'm interested to see how it all goes I'm not exactly going to be surprised if they have suffering in line for a lot of the empire related people yeah and so that takes us over to Luthan's plotline which we have a super interesting conversation between him and so the you basically is established pretty quickly that the so is in line with joining Krieger he's on board with the plan but of course we don't want so joining Krieger anymore no and so he's like what's going on he's like well he's about to get screwed over and caught and he's like why is there's something we're not going to save him from but he's like because that would give up my source and then he says how do you know I don't I won't tell him and he says I don't know what you'll do it's this incredibly awkward position that's developing between them and something that probably happens a lot in these kinds of environments how much you willing to give up but this is something of of a weight that luthan had alone but at this point he's essentially going to share it with with sore but there's um there's a part we saw gets super paranoid and he's like but you already know about this because you had someone in the ISB like do you have someone here do you have someone everywhere and then he's just like can you please pay attention like we're talking about what we're going to do next with Krieger and then he gets so paranoid that the only way luthan thinks you can get him to listen is to actually like play into it for a second and be like oh yeah it's that guy over there and I guess like hey no like we'll know it isn't lying and yes he gets a gun on him and he says the only reason doing this so you'll fucking listen to me is basically he just passes the choice over to him once he's explained it and what's interesting of course is that so basically come comes the same conclusion as him um he goes down that he says he says the ISP you'll feel invincible they'll feel untouchable we'll have a clear field of play the alternative Krieger pulls out we wave him off they'll know that they have they'll have to wonder they'll trust nothing just like you're doing right now by what ISP saw why wouldn't I just send you out there with him I didn't want you to have to make this choice 30 man plus Krieger for the greater good call it what you will and so says I call it war now draw up it's a rough decision to have to make but got to do it yes it's tough rough and yeah just that many men's lives just sitting in your hand and that's the decision that's made pretty casually yeah and they don't even know they'll never know anyway Luther on his way back he has a conversation that I found super interesting with his his partner and of course they're always worried about being detected and so he says of course he wanted to reopen the offer and so so I guess to properly set this up right that they are talking about everything that's happened with sore and what's going to be happening next with and or but they can't be using any names like that or even specific locations or really any specifics at all they have to come across as though they're talking about what their store is which is trading antiques is like yeah antiques and cultural artifacts an anthropology store and so she says did you close the sale and he says I did it was more expensive than I'd hoped but I wasn't in a position to bargain probably talking about how you know it went as good as it was going to go with the Kreeger situation or but it's yeah not fun but it's done and she says you come in home and he says depends I'm most curious about the other piece obviously being and or and she says you should come home as it's no longer available and no it's very much on the table the negotiations are ongoing and our representatives being Cinder and Val are involved there's other buyers involved being the ISP your presence would complicate the bidding at this point like yeah there's not much reason for you to be there as well everything is fucking there and he says we need that piece we lose that we'll have to close shop and he's obviously talking about how that's the one big loose end his Cassian for him um he says there's nothing more you can do and he says that's never true there's a crowd in market you need to think of the consequences of losing that piece to another collector I just I like it it's so much fun to listen it's really good yeah it's so much code yeah what's interesting is the conversation is cut off by him being bumped into a patrol yeah it was probably good that he's talking that way and then we got an action scene you I guess I'll summarize it they use their track to beam on him hold him in place and then they start asking questions until they decide they're going to pull him in for a full inspection he inacts some countermeasures and escapes where would we like to begin talking I feel like I end up summarizing a lot and talking a lot so I want to give some people another chance to little chats a runy you know well basically it's like it's like a big old a big old ship has three satellite dishes that point well to the front basically yeah and they they get him into a little tractor beam and he's like playing along it's like oh hey yeah I'm just just passing by I'm salesman or whatever and well while this is happening he tells the computer is like hey get me give me like like an ID that I can use and it's like yeah it is good and the guy the check that is like also we got gonna get rid of the tractor we was like no we could we could use the practice he says so even though everything is fine he still decides to check his cargo and yeah he's like hey we're going to get you in with the tractor beam so don't don't do any any shenanigans or use your thrusters or whatever because we go and get you now he's like oh yeah okay no problem and of course he he starts doing some thruster stuff so he's not getting piped dragged in to the to the spaceship immediately and also on the side he he prepares some counter measures so he's just wasting some time is like oh I have some overheating here blah blah blah just kind of talking bullshit until the they have like tears of tractor beam right like one two three yeah levels yeah so when they apply the first level you can like fuck with it just by like half launching one of his thrusters mm-hmm which is a really weird thing to do because if you're trying to escape you wouldn't do that but if you're trying to cooperate fully you wouldn't do that as well so what's going on and he's like oh whoops that's just my thruster being a bitch don't worry about it I'll overheating issue but again because the empire is not stupid it's like scan his his heating scan his thrusters I don't believe him so they do it's like oh it's all bullshit but before they can do anything he starts his countermeasures which I'm actually not entirely sure what they are so he basically has like they look like rocket pots but they should point to the back of him they almost look like um altrops but in space yeah something like that I think the idea is that he uses the the the tractor beam for extra extra speed and the basic crash into the middle yeah that would make sense that they're being launched into the cat tractor beam and the tractor means pulling them so yeah and then it just destroys the uh that part and he gets away well what about you rags you have any Carpetry so this scene was hit and miss for me yeah there is elements that I liked about it and there's elements that I didn't like about it what I like is this sense of the the idea that that that that Luth Luthin's done this before he has a special a particular set of skills oh he has a ship that can do things that is that is also special he has a ship board AI that seems really good he has a you know his countermeasures which are obviously a surprise weapon essentially he has a very good laser cannon on it he has the silly fucking lightsabers that come out of the side but oh right oh pretty safe to say that this ship and him are both not typical no I like the way that the empire goes about asking him for his business readying up a loading craft telling him do it anyway we need to practice and stay in shape I like how they don't escalate too fast too quick but at the same time they don't let him just get away with doing things or saying things now I like Luthens he he's done this before you get that feeling you know I need to get a distraction I'm going to give an excuse power up this power up that you know keep your cool so there's a lot of this I do like when I don't like is the execution and how some of it's done pretty much everything after he uses the countermeasures to destroy the front radar array or tractor beam dish I kinda don't like too much the way that he's very eat these these a there's it's like three tie fighters and a bomber come out he instantly kills the bomber and then shoots another tie fighter without missing his cannon is really good but we'll chalk that up to it being a special ship and he would invest in that okay okay that's not typical sure but I don't think he gets touched a single time by the fighters that are chasing after him and you think they'd be more maneuverable and I think the biggest offender is how at the end when there's two tie fighters left he's heading at them and they are heading at him he has these little blade lightsaber blades stick out of the side of the ship and he doesn't aileron and it just slices this the tie fighters both and they blow up and it's stupid yeah dumb like no this doesn't belong here get this out of here stop you were doing so good before you started doing things it was so good and then he hyper drives away and leaves the Imperial commander of the ship kind of speechless in fact so yeah this is I I didn't like the execution of some of the ideas and I did like a lot of it what I did notice is that they're clearly trying it's not all stupid it's pretty much just him at the end pretty much but everything up to that point you're like okay so the they're doing a little thing to show how Luthin's competent how he you know gets away from a situation like this that he's prepared for it it shows that he's really you know that that I like for a ship to be able to get away from essentially a Star Destroyer or many Star Destroyer would be a really really big deal it's not something to take lightly it's a ship that has lots of cannons it has tractor beams it has tie fighters on it it's got lots and lots of personnel the idea that you can just get away from it is not a just thing you got to be you got to come up with a reason and a writing reason why it's possible for you to get away from this ship and they knew to make that a thing they went through the effort of at least trying to even though not all that you know not perfectly will say that they knew that they had to do that they couldn't just have him get away through something completely stupid yeah I don't know what they were thinking of those lasers I saw them was like what the what what why it is like someone's not come just give him another that's cool I I think all the turds are pretty cool oh that's cool that's the whole reason it's there is to be cool that's shit obviously the fun result of it is it's uncool to us we're like boo yeah because you can't you don't even see the ends of it so as far as I know they just span the unlimited amounts of time I don't know just an ever-extending laser just gonna slam into a planet one day and it's like oh god oh no yeah I completely agree the scene is 50-50 for me there's so much I like and so much I don't but they knew to try yeah there's much more effort in this than there is usually such as do you have a face or you are a higher rank therefore it's okay the face I do have a face I really just yeah I really enjoy his delivery of just like oh so these things screwing up and you know oh there's piracy in these areas thanks for the warning man that was weird I don't know yeah and then yeah just like the thruster and just there's lots of good ideas and stuff cleaning up a bit what is this stupid laser bullshit what are you doing so dumb it's so dumb dobbin put it away put a little laser box yeah get out of the show you don't belong here you're clearly trespassing from somewhere we don't we don't like your kind here laser which by the way that leads us to episode 12 oh my god that's the last one here we go literally the last episode of this I think the long right literally I'll I can't remember they all just the pacing was so good I never really is a lot about it 54 minute episode my dude off wow well let's get through it because I'm tired out I'm sleepy there's me being talking about all this and or I'm also that I have I have many complex emotions right now like hunger like Hungary I am you know just let me I'm just need like an extra minute to complete the consumption of this particular item though can you guys like just the weather maybe I'm in okay well weather is the weather like in the the Germany land it is currently right outside the weather it's a dark which has nothing to do with the weather I think so weather is start so I'll start saying yes whether's going to be pretty dark yeah watch out I hate it when it's dark weather in the day yeah it's like an eclipse stupid not just like when dark rain happens you know rain that just makes darkness everywhere yeah it's really annoying it's a sad sad day for dark rain actually was kind of weird it went like from minus 10 degrees Celsius a couple of days ago to now like plus 10 like shit's weird you shit weird I just sometimes like what do you mean what I I thought you meant like your posture or something oh yeah and do a little weird headstand little headstand talking about weather tomorrow for me this this is in fair Fahrenheit but the low for tomorrow is going to be six hmm that's perfect so over overnight it's going to be precipitation yeah looks like we're going to get showers in the day it's going to be 47 Fahrenheit during the day and then that night six degrees so what's going to happen is all with everything is going to get all wet and then overnight it's going to fucking freeze and it'll stay frozen because Friday it only gets up to 23 then Fahrenheit 32 is freezing so it's going to be that is a one two punch of weather that's the all Arkansas one two eight just showers for a little bit like in the summer it'll shower for a little bit make everything super human wet and then boom clouds blow away and the sun comes out and you're like oh shit now it's super hot and insanely humid right on schedule what what is um yeah this this finale you got all kinds of things being built up here you got got all these characters coming to the doing the thing they like oh this is everyone's coming in to get Cassian he's a bastard we gotta stop him from being alive boss or in some cases just want to give him a cuddle or something I don't know anyway this this one's a little tougher in terms of like trying to break it up in terms of POVs it's mainly a single plotline kind of so you're best in yours what about in that direct uh so got transport guy is telling a bigger friend guy about how he contacted Andor and and he happens to be overheard by guy who wanted money off Andor through it's kind of like a starting point and I was just like that's a little bit disappointed but alright just uh you know you're gonna want to keep the information that you heard from Cassian fucking quiet especially when you're occupied this hard by the ISB don't just be talking about it randomly so that people can hear that's a really bad idea cause you might have a repercussion of that person telling on you which is what happens yeah everyone shut the fuck up hey let's go home before we talk about this very important thing no one should know about yeah or let's just speak quieter mm-hmm you see the point where he goes hey what are you guys whispering about and you go nothing nothing nothing what are you guys talking about I don't even know how to whisper um a little bit Bix is fully destroyed and ready is as bait I think is the idea or potential bait and that eidra decide she's gonna take a walk around the town to get familiar and we get into cutting of little things of good old I get his name it was something like two a's in his name but the guy who's killed who gave up Bix in his place um his son is crafting something like a pipe bomb yeah you could tell it's a pipe bomb sci-fi pipe bomb space pipe bomb uh and yeah and we find out that Krieger was annihilated along with his entire crew and deidra's actually annoyed at this she's like why the fuck didn't you capture any of them and if they really were 30 or 50 plus men um you'd think at least one of them he says that the idea is to wipe the taste of al-dani out of the emperor's mouth I think the idea is to just report that as a great victory and that um yep essentiall