What's going on everyone? Sam here with late in sports cards doing a nice four box high-end mixer for Adam M We got three 2022 impeccable football hobby, so that's a sealed case as well as a one 21 penini flawless football hobby So good luck. Let's do it here Adam good luck. Let's do it Adam and Adam will save your bar card for last if we If it's like the first If it comes out of the first box, we'll just save it before the Before we go into flawless, obviously, we'll open it, but we'll save it for the last card impeccable See a one-on-one dude. I'm not full the one-on-one gold yet That's I'm trashed on me. Oh, yeah big time high-end break here.  Love Harrison Smith dude. So good Nice one here, too. We got Christian a coy a Nigerian nightmare three out of 25 Grats on that there Adam nice hit buddy Got rookie Otto is gonna be a Trent McDuffie 24 out of 75 sheets Their first rounder. I believe think so Rookie landscape Otto is breeze all six out of 49 for the the old New York Jets There you go, Adam behind it, we've got Desmond Ritter that is 15 out of 99 again on the rookie landscape for the Falcons and Redemption is gonna be elegance rookie helmet and patch autos Jameson Williams Lions RPI Yes, it will like you always like you've been saying him and a monrod Yeah, oh absolutely I gotta be honest to Jerry golf Very like underrated and extremely serviceable this year Well, I mean they started out pretty terribly like to start off like one in six or one in five They went on a tear I think the hottest football for a while at least one of Jared goff speaking of dude 15 out of 75 that was weird Damian Harris to 75. Yeah, I agree. Honestly, there's a Rams keep Baker I think it was a free agent at the end of the year. So probably not And then T. Higgins is gonna be at 67 out of 75 true J mad We've got a Chris Godwin Two out of 14. That's like the jersey number parallel. That's kind of sick, dude. That's kind of sick. Yeah, that's that's awesome Grats on that there Adam Nice one here. We got Saints is gonna be Ricky Williams run Ricky run 75 out of 99 We've got Wanda Robinson rookie patch autos on the redemption for the Giants one of the Broncos Shannon sharp Three out of 49 Dylan Brooks worst nightmare right there. I know he wasn't on the Saints for very long Please that was when they didn't like dick cut when he was the coach like trade the entire draft to get Ricky Williams I'm pretty sure like literally his entire draft he traded and then Garrett Wilson 18 out of 75 patch helmet Auto nice one there box of impeccable. Then we're on to flawless So that worked out. Well, I did kill it in golfing. Nice one there. There's your bar card No, but I think it's I think you just appreciate it Aaron Jones to 50 Carson Wentz to 75 Got 25 out of 35 Jelani Woods on the rookie auto for the Colts Yeah, I am interested. They just like formally announced like they're open for business on the the number one You've got Trent McDuffie 33 out of 75 again for the peace a nice one here It's gonna be Micah Parsons award winners autographs 20 set 21 defensive rookie of the year pretty cool here is gonna be Christian Watson two outs of 99 on the rookie Jersey Auto For the Packers You'll just see the patch is sick. We've got going to the Chargers Isaiah Spiller 13 out of 25 on the helmets and glove auto That's awesome. Dude the a and charger. That's a really cool patch. I like that Grats on that there Adam see what we've got in the bar Yeah, one one. Oh Kenny Pickett Jersey number to eight of 20 On the bar card congrats on that Adam. There you go, buddy Nice KP rookie bar one Troy ounce of fine silver. That is Jersey number eight of 20 Nice Get that into a Mac where you have All right, Susan flawless Let's double check make sure that that's the rights box 21 flawless football hobby 21 flawless football hobby I'll never forget Sean We were like I think Antoine had a personal and it was like a box of flawless basketball and a box of flawless football Yeah, and it was like pretty early on when I was group-breaking and I was like like I was like visibly nervous making sure it was like the right box and I went to cut it and Sean was wait wait, and I'm like and he was like that. I'm just kidding. Dude. Can't do that to me Yeah, I'd be annoyed I was like once I got Brad so good dude. We were doing a random hit style of like leaf full group rake, so there's like 48 cards and He was like done with the He was done with it and he's like all right. We good. I'm like we're supposed to have 47, right? He's like I'm like no, I'm just kidding up 48. You're like you can't do that, dude Got the triple Jeremy Shockey Antonio Gates Chris Cooley triple tight ends Very cool. That's one here. We've got 16 out of 20 Jay Jedis for the Vikings, so it would be loved by chat. I have to be like Sean pretty much Yeah, it's brutal Sean Watson three out of 15 star swatch signatures three color patch auto for the Texans So here we got rookie auto is gonna be seven out of 25. That is a cadarius Tony For the Giants followed by 10 out of 15 for the Cowboys There's Drew Pearson Nice one there 22 out of 25 for the Ravens. There's Rashad Bateman Can't wait till he comes back healthy man and really cool one here, dude. We've got 2018 NFL defensive player of the year three of five Aaron Donald on the honored ink from 2020 Flawless football back to now. That's really cool Really freaking cool. And off we've got Austin Eckler 15 out of 20 on the diamond card in case Really sick AD We've got 14 out of 25 is Zach Wilson on the signature gloves for the Jets and Really cool one here is gonna be for the commanders rookie one-of-one dual swooshes the Ami Brown Nice one there Adam God that's so sick, dude I love when there's a dual swoosh like I pulled a Jamar Chase of this like way back and it's so cool, dude One-of-one D. Ami Brown. Congrats Adam That will do it for your break Adam. Thanks again for the support buddy excited to meet you at the national We will


All right. Good morning cyber traders. Welcome back on this lovely Friday. I don't like Fridays because the markets not that great right now We only got one good stock, but I'm really excited because the weekends right around the corner. We're talking how many more days till Christmas Damn, we were talking lesson It's Hanukkah today. Oh look at that. Hanukkah began at Sun and down. We got about that So we got Hanukkah going on and now we got We got Christmas lesson two weeks away So hopefully you guys been going out there and spending some of that good money you made good to see you Don Michael Bonnie Gary Good to see you all leader. Good morning to you, too. Tony. Good to see you. Welcome everyone here YouTube Facebook live, too Hope everybody's having a great day All right, so anyway, um, whatever reason why I started off telling you I don't like Fridays I'm telling you I didn't really see that much going on, but yesterday was fabulous For a Thursday I mean Thursday was one of the you know, like I tell you Tuesdays Wednesdays and Thursdays are the best days to Trade I finished early yesterday. We had a great cyber expo We had we had Melissa and we had Hubert on we have me on so if you missed our cyber expo just make sure you're on our YouTube channel like us and You'll get access to it But we had some great presenters and you know what's so funny when you watch it even if you're a student at CyberTrain University You'll notice like even though I was listening to Melissa talk I mean she doesn't live too far from me. She lives here in New York, too in the city It's like I'm talking to myself, you know, we trade exactly the same, you know Everything and you know what like I always say to you though Reputation is very important Consisting he's very important, you know, and when you hear everybody keep talking the same way It just makes you know like wow now I get it why their system works and doesn't work, you know Because that's what it is. We all need mentors We all need to sample a bit of everybody's stuff But you definitely want to make sure if you didn't miss it go watch that recording but going back to what happened What's going on for today? Listen the last three Fridays. I lost one. I made money and I broke even on the two I was kind of remember I would give you the journals So I'm trying not to get too crazy especially at this time of the year going to the end of the year You know if things are gonna start slowing down more people are more worried about What's going on with the with the coronavirus with you know with the vaccine and You know, you got the holidays around. What are you gonna do for the holidays? I mean like I usually do Christmas in my house. My wife's trying to tone it down I mean I usually cook for like almost 40 50 people and they're all actually all believe or not family I don't think we're gonna probably be able to do it this year. I don't know what's going on So anyway, let's go do a couple of shopping. Let's talk about what we traded yesterday a Couple of good stocks actually did move some night had some nice little moves I just want to touch upon them really quick the one I made my most money on was this one right here Which was WTI WTI was so easy And I'll tell you why when you look at the chart right here. It was a very inexpensive stock It was a level one stock. It went up really nice and slow I you know, you could trade several thousand shares of it it's pretty comfortable how the stock moved up pretty nicely there and You know, I got really ticked off at myself because let me just change his chart You see a little better. So the stock I got shaken out of it and I was wrong I was you know, I made a mistake. I got shaken out of it. I had it at like 237. I sold it like 232 I took a loss on it and I jumped back in it to like 243 again And then you could see it went to like 256. So I did pretty well I made back what I lost and plus I made some more I mean you're gonna trade a lot of shares of it was pretty easy to get out of it But it was a really nice move over the course of the day I mean, I mean you could see it even where I got out at 252 right around here the stock obviously I mean, I was done right around that time. What was that around 11 o'clock? I mean a thing ran up higher, but it's okay. Listen, you don't try to hit home runs with these stocks You just trying to make a day's pay and there were a couple other ones too XII that one was in the middle of the day that went from $1.60 at 290 and you know She's moving again this morning. I'm gonna put this on my V list Okay, but but that stock had a nice little push going into the close What else that we had here a lot of energy stocks. I mean, they were all moving all these energy stocks Look at this one not only on the day trade but on a swing trade if you want to be a good overnight trader or a In its swing trader or even an option trader you have to Learn how to day trade first because if you look at this stock SM You could see it in the last couple days since November went from $2 to $50 $3 I mean, what does it look like now? Oh now it looks like a swing trade So, you know great traders never buy it at a buck 50 and sell that's $6. Okay? So that's where that comes about but um, but that would actually move pretty nicely So and that was it not only a good swing trade, but was also a very very good day trade BLNK another stock that had a nice little push yesterday So this stock obviously you could see had a nice push early went apart from 26 to 28 It was all on the volatile side. I'll be a little concerned about this doc Remember, you know, one of the biggest things that we that I really cover is not about Making money. It's about controlling losses. Okay, we can't tell you what to buy and sell you got to make that choice You know, we're in the trading room. We're working to get like a team That's what it's all about but event at the end of the day you got to click that button There's no guarantees. You're gonna make money in trading.   It's perfectly normal, you know It's like saying you get married. Oh, we don't fight.  Oh, my kids are perfect Obviously a person's got some delusional going on there, but in stocks, I mean you're gonna lose It's part of the game a baseball player is going to strike out. They don't bat a thousand You just got to learn from it because every time you do a trade you learn better as you move forward and that's really comes down to it It's all about the discipline part now regarding about this morning. Listen, like I said, there's it's Friday It's not the greatest day. There were a couple of stocks that made some movers. We'll check them out a little bit There were a couple of penny stocks. I was not really a fan of I wanted to look at but but there are some stocks that are moving I do want to start off with this stock right here The TP GI now you could see the stock has been on a huge tear Okay, a huge tear, but it's starting to trend down now You know, I mean the stock has obviously been an IPO. You could see a stock one from 10 really nice mover But it's not really going anywhere. So I put this on the B list But I want to start with the off with the a list So we have this VTV T it was in the morning watch list it gapped up pretty nicely up 96% on the day But she's starting to trend down. She's starting to go lower. She's not really moving too much So I might move her back to the B list. I don't have that many a list stocks I mean, I thought that this would be an a list stock 25% 5 million shares already in pre-market. It's kind of flat line Not really sold on it, too.  I mean this one looks a little bit better, but Remember what we teach you in phase one remember the first tee the stock has really got to be careful on the category of Tratable, it's got a big spread. It's got small tear sizes. Look at the level three on the right Not really that much going on if you don't know what that is to some of you right here You know, we're looking at orders that are out there, you know, not really 10 shares and come on like 500 Don't see any iceberg orders out there.  I'll hop on the beat a hop on the B list SNO a In that one took a huge hit, but you know what it's up 114 percent today, you know up $13 stock I mean, this is unbelievable, but the stock got destroyed and then one minute boom, but it's a gap up You know what I mean? This is something that very hard to kind of like, you know You got lucky on this one. You really really officially got lucky on this VT VT We already know about that one.  It's gapped up It's up about 52% but look at that trend the pre-market has a lot to do over the direction LXRX another one This one it's not Terrible, I mean you could see right here. It's got a Fausto flag right here.  It's got some good Iceberg orders. I don't really see that many algorithms going on right now in here. So it's this one I probably gonna move it back on the a list It was on the B list PPGY another one that you know, like this one we already talked about and XXII I mean, we already talked about that one also that was from yesterday So it's not a huge list and you know what that's okay Okay, so I mean listen you did well yesterday you did well on Wednesday I mean, it's okay to take the day off. This is what we do But you know what? We always find something that might move at the open. So you don't want to go anywhere Phil just made 15 cents on LXRX. Good for you Phil. There you go. Congratulations. He's in the cyber group room I do want to talk about something that I did a video on it, but let's talk about short squeezes Okay, let's talk about short squeezes. We had some stocks this week I mean, it was just unprecedented what they did. It was incredible, right? I want I want to start off with the SLS. All right, look at this stock. It ran from 4 to 17.  Okay, let's look at the another one and BRV Look at this stock Well, actually, this is not really a short squeeze This one's really getting hammered but but the reason I was bringing this is that this one up You can see how the stock was breaking lower lows lower lows and then you wake up. Boom. You get crushed If you knew how to day trade you wouldn't fall into that. I am MP Remember this one? $2 to 7 look at it now getting crushed. Okay. You ready for the best ones? The best ones BLSI remember that one ten dollars to a hundred and sixty look at it now It's down to sixty one. You want to play around with fire? You see these things? This is what it's all about a y Tu Here's another one Huge jump up went from three all the way to about 13 boom was right back down to six So anyway, the tip of the day is this if you have to learn how to day trade to understand What's going on with some of these stocks and and I want to point this out with some of you for the cyber group members This is a lesson that's being learned you learn something every day and you got to be careful with these high flyers You know, I hear people brag and how much money they make, you know what? I also want to see if they still have it today and if they're still bragging because some people they go in and Which you probably the most popular one you probably heard about on TV Because they were talking about this forever was Kodak remember Kodak AO DK Apologize. So anyway, there you go. Look at this one. We remember this one. This was like historic stock was I don't know. What was that like $2 and a rant to like 60? Okay? Honestly the GLS why I was probably better. That was historic So guys be very very careful of today's markets. It's Friday.  All right So and I'm not I'm not always a person that brags about that and talks about that sometimes your best trade is not the trade All right, but when you have to trade you buy less and trade more. Good luck. Everyone happy trading We start open we're gonna start commentary in the cyber group room in about 15 minutes So and also if you want to get to watch those videos I was talking about like us click us on the bottom on the YouTube and Facebook live and we'll and we will be going over that Oh, and I forgot to mention one more thing For the cyber cyber group members, I forgot to mention we're in the process of launching a new Trading room you're gonna have Moji's you're gonna be able to get instant text messaging all that We're probably gonna be rolling it out sometime next week. We've been beta testing it right now It's a very popular specifically done for trading rooms We are gonna probably do a couple of webinars After the market closes to kind of show you some demos of it It's not gonna be a huge change, but it's gonna be a more professional look and I think you guys gonna enjoy it So just to give you guys a heads up, you know, please don't harass us about it yet but just keep in mind that we're in the process of Launching a new professional trading room. We've been using this one for about 15 years There's new improved ones that are out there and a lot and that's one of the main reasons to Jeff because Because flash is going away. It's not a flash player. So it's a little bit better and more geared towards it So that's another reason why we're moving moving here from I'm not a like I'm a old-fashioned person I don't like change, but sometimes you have to do it. All right guys. Good luck be safe and we'll be right back and Everybody you to Facebook live will see back here at 2 30 for the clothes. Good luck everyone. Happy trading


I think what's I mean obviously look this is about giving people an alcohol drug-free space to go and enjoy concerts but I think this is great for the performers it gives them an amazing platform in front of a lot of people which I think is a real cracking element to this awesome isn't it you know what happens is you know young people get together there might be 15 14 year olds they maybe have four or five practice sessions they're in a band then they go up to the park and they turn the corner and they see a stage that you would see in Glastonbury it's huge and it really gives them confidence then to move on from that just while I mentioned Glastonbury the Murder Capital playing Glastonbury and Gabriel Blake his first ever gig was at the party in the park so and he's the bass player for the Murder Capital who are taking over the world at the minute fantastic and there are other stories like that and there's a mixture of established artists and new artists and what have you at this concert but what impresses me and you know this more than I would Frankie but you know with a better understanding of music is that you know these young people aren't just getting together and and and trashing out noise no you know what I mean they're making brilliant music and and and some of the songwriting lyric you know the way they form the words and the meanings relevant to them it's really really genuinely impressive they're really using the music to express themselves but doing it in a fantastic way I think yes most definitely you know I've never had anyone in here and we've had lots of young bands that go oh lads you know yeah well we've got one plan I was speaking to Caroline and then we've got one coming in next week in the lead-up they're a band called Dirt Tax I think they were on the Monday night sessions before and they're very young you know but they are fantastic really really good all right we'll talk more about the event and the ethos and all that kind of stuff but run through some of the acts that have been well yeah well this year with 18 bands which is you know extraordinary just to name a few we have Cora Harkin over from Derry we have the nine-foot lizards we have the upper echelons which are from our breakout LGBT group we have Raheem we have Hannah McFadden we have Destin and the Bluestack from the Bluestack special needs project over in Donegal and they played at our celebration event in Belfast they are unbelievable incredible it's great great for them and we had to build it and access it for people with disabilities to the stage this year which is good it's a new development for us we have Dirt Tax who I mentioned the aphids you've had up here fantastic band they have a new single out Ella Fitzgerald who's a very aptly named she's got a beautiful voice she's incredible Iron Everything more established he's playing tonight in the mouthpiece in the cottage very very good brilliant voice we have the future generation dancers who we had last year and they are a group of young people from the eyepast center just had just opened up then last year and they lit the place up because we had four hours of beautiful weather and then we had a biblical downpour for two hours last year and they stayed and they danced in the rain and it was just absolutely beautiful to see so they're back you know and then along with that of course we have the the activities there you know we've got the circus skills in your space crowd are coming up from Belfast do the circus skills and we have a group called tackling awareness of mental health health issues they're a Tammy they're called and they specialize in games for young people face painting the old classic hair braiding and henna tattoos art workshops everything yeah and two I mean you mentioned Glass and Bree like this is almost like the breakout stage to some extent you know what I mean in that you mentioned the murder capital connection there but there's other bands that are household names now not just locally but you know we've got recording contracts they're their music's reaching you know loads of people across the world through streaming platforms and what have you that have played the stage in the past that's right yeah that's right without a doubt and right okay so the whole idea if this is that it's drug and alcohol free event it's during the day it's a brilliant platform for the artists as you mentioned but it's a good fun day with lots going on a bossy festival field for the young people and their families absolutely remember the family bit you know and it's for all ages you know and we get we get that every year and there's there's there's going to be food provided and just a real fun atmosphere for everyone you know now at the bottom of the poster I have there's a call for artists talents and band has that call been met now or is that still out there we can't get any more in I'm afraid that's what I was thinking I was looking down thinking where are you going to squeeze them in yeah but I'm not directly running it this year but I'm famous for letting everybody play and we've had all kinds of we've maybe had 25 we have too many but we're at we're at our limit with with that time period 12 to 6 with with 18 bands so I'm very impressed with that I must mention that it's it's funded this year through the our generation project which is a piece four funded project so we have some bands coming over from dairy and a cross border element to it but we also have this year secured funding from the Connecting for Life HSE anti-suicide project or suicide prevention project so they're they've they've provided funding for the stage right and so that's great 17 years in yeah we're flying hey you know and if you count the pandemic which we can't really we would be at 19 but yeah delighted and we started you'll know John Ruddy I'm sure from from being around and myself and John Ruddy and maybe seven or eight other young people back in 2005 I think it was sitting on the steps would you hear a little darker then oh yeah much so very much so oh still I still wasn't as bold as a baby but yeah it was just bored out of what we got nothing to do and I was a youth worker I said well we've got this big park and we've got all you guys with skills let's go up and sit on the steps and play music and then we went well maybe this could grow and it has thank god softly and it's still and it's now it's a new generation of people that are sitting around wondering what we can do what we've a stage for you know I get up there and and do your thing so you're bringing in live music to us next week is it yes but I'm called Dirt Tax Dirt Tax so I'll have to figure at the time but I spoke to Caroline Caroline says there's lots of space so yeah well that's above my pay scale I'll leave that I'll leave that to you and we can't mention pay now can we and we can hear anyway all right listen well done Frankie for what you and the rest of the crew are doing in keeping this going as I say brilliant for the audience but as I say I think particularly and when the affaiths were in here I was saying to them what I'd love to see is is you know when you go to some of the concerts or festivals that are going on around the place and they're playing music out of the speakers for an hour before everything starts I'd love to see the young bands get an opportunity to get up there and I'm not even just young new to get up there and say well we'll fill that gap with this crew here yeah but anyway this is a brilliant stage and platform for them it is just market into your card 7th of July 2023 there's no booze no drugs there's graffiti workshops games on the green live music circus skills face painting and Tammy project will be there as we mentioned as well so much more besides and we'll talk about it more earlier on when we welcome up that band to play here all right Frankie thanks as always for calling up appreciate your time thanks very much Greg fingers crossed the weather's actually the way the weather's got now they can kind of say and it's looking good for the second week in July apparently well I'll take your word for it don't take my word for it take the experts word for it but change will next week but it's looking looking decent for the week after all right thanks Frankie back after the break the county's number one talk show The Nine Till Noon Show on Highland Radio The Nine Till Noon Show with the Lennon Festival Remelton from the 6th to the 10th of July save the date and gather your friends for an incredible lineup featuring Sharon Shannon Abba Sensations and Jimmy Buckley giveblood.ie know we can count on you our community of blood donors to give blood and to choose to be there for others in their hour of need blood donors from Bali Shannon should attend the clinic in Kaloshta column kill in Bali Shannon on Monday 26th of June and donors from Donegal, Kili Begs and Dunlow should attend the clinic in the Abbey Hotel in 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celebrating their prestigious four star hotel recognition with a sizzling barbecue exciting giveaways and much more Highland Radio time checks with Expressway Travel Route 32 from Lettercanny to Dublin when you book online and travel for less Expressway bringing you the time, Matt the time is 20 minutes past 11 now what happened at the weekend was a man a young fella I suppose you could say not as young now as used to be of course from a small town in Donegal Ballet Buffet took to the top stage or one of the top stages in boxing a world stage watched on the zone by God knows how many people from all across the world it is a remarkable achievement that really really should be celebrated it's one of the it's up there with some of the greatest sported sporting achievements by Irish sports stars in my opinion that person is Jason Quigley and Jason thanks for joining us and it's kind of a strange one in that you're off the back of a defeat but you know the first word I want to say to you is congratulations it was just an amazing an amazing performance I think yeah thanks very much Greg really appreciate it yeah it is it is a bit of a strange one I think as the days are passing by I'm starting to to see things in a little bit of a different light of course you know I'm a fighter I'm a competitive person and once you get through those ropes you always want a one and you know when you come out with a defeat it's it never sets too well what's you know matter what way the fight went but that's just a person that I am and the type of game plan that we had and the type of training that we put in and training camp that we put in for this fight you know I really expected to get in there and pull off the upset but you know the result didn't go my way but looking back on a few things haven't watched the fight yet but yeah I have to say I'm happy with the direction my performance is going what did it feel like before we get to the fight itself you know after all the build up and everything you know all the preparation all the sacrifices what does it feel like you know when the music goes you're at the top of the stage and you look out and you're going down there you're on I mean you've got your team but you're on your own but you've built yourself up to this I always wonder what your heart rate would be at I that's that would really interest me but how does that feel it's actually and like obviously I can only speak for myself here when I do this because I know everybody's different but that's really when I come into my comfort zone do you know what I mean that's really when I come into the place I want to be in because you know the whole hanging around like a day of the fight is the strangest day you'll ever come across like because me and the team you know we wake up in the morning and we go for a breakfast you come back then you're chilling in the room my wife April was over with me we were we were lying up watching just Netflix Black Mirror and Netflix throughout the day just having a cup of tea a wee coffee you know good positive distractions and throughout the day because you don't want to be wasting any nervous energy you don't want to be thinking too much on the fight at the end of the day it's a job and I didn't have to check into my job until 8 p.m. that night and then it was 10 p.m. roughly by the time that I had to actually get to work so it is definitely a weird day fight day and leaving into the fight you know it can be strange because you're sitting there I was sitting there with April just having a coffee a wee protein ball and watching Black Mirror head absolutely warped around Black Mirror and next thing you're like geez we have a fight tonight so it's strange but once once I get to the venue I really become into like a real not relaxed sense and such because you know I just feel like I'm there to do what I'm meant to do you know that's when you know you can kind of control more whenever you're there it's more the anticipation throughout the whole day and the fight week leading into the fight is what is what can be strange and difficult and hard to deal with but you know once it comes to right let's go to the venue that's when everything's that's coming together now you can correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I saw as happening in the lead-up to this fight is that Edgar Berlanger is you know a big signing for Dazone they wanted to showcase him on the platform and they wanted a good fighter a good fighter with a good winning record but this was about you know Edgar Berlanger and his future now you tore that script up as far as I I can imagine but do you you know you upset the script to some extent do you feel that that's the way this fight was being framed going in I don't think there's any disrespect to you in that Jason but is that like you upset the party really there's just no doubt about that yeah um your spot on there Greg definitely you know because like that's that's boxing that's the game we're in and it's crazy to like you're there's a there's a brilliant sign that goes around a box and you're only as good as your last fight and you know that is so true in boxing because I was you know remembered really for the Andrade fight oh it was great Jason Coyle got the fight for world title but he was knocked out in the second round like you know I didn't want to be remembered for that like that wasn't I know I'm better than that I know that was an off night it was just boxing happened that night and you know I really wanted to put a mark back on my name put a bit of respect back on my name put a bit of authority behind my name again um from from what I put into the sport and how good that I know I am and how good I know I can be but this was the perfect opportunity for me to do that because Edgar Belanga was he's supposedly the chosen one you know he's the one that is you know gunning for Canelo but me and my team really worked so hard jailed together throughout the whole training camp throughout the whole year really and really came into this fate with a real sense of confidence about us and and and what we could do and and we knew we could upset the odds we knew we had it in us and we had the capability of doing that and I think it was very clear from and also people are saying our Belanga was on the par I don't think so I think exactly the way you and Andy Lee figured this out you made it you exposed you expose his weaknesses big time you stopped him working you've frustrated him I don't think he was on the par I just think you's outwitted him but the one thing that and I'm a huge fan of Andy Lee and and and particularly the fight he had in that ring not so long ago I think it was the ninth round or something he pulled off an amazing victory but it was he's so cool calm and collected and the way he was speaking to you the way he was trying to say that we've talked about this in advance we know what we have to do here Jason if you stick to it we're going to do it and you responded really well to that it was remarkable to see how you used to interacted in the corner and how this plan you know coming out low and all that kind of stuff how this plan was working when you were when you were on it and you showed amazing discipline Jason too because we talked the last time we talked about it that sometimes you can just say well stop the plan let's have a let's have a row but you were really really disciplined and I can't imagine how much concentration it takes to stay as you did for so long yeah and that's something you know that we have been really working on that's something that I have been subject to doing in the past is you know getting into a war getting into a tussle and just you know saying Fs ladies you know what I mean you're just going for it well don't watch the 12th round because you kind of did do that alright so skip that and maybe fast forward round 10 so one two nine and 11 skip 10 and 12 Jason it was you know me and Andy you know Andy has got a little bit of stick in the past for being my coach because of certain circumstances not being able to traveling stuff get into the states and travel and you know people has said that he's let me down and you know your coach not being there is a massive disadvantage and stuff like that but nobody's seen the one-to-one that me and Andy has had no one's seen the work that me and him put in the conversations the coffees we've had the you know spending time the outside of boxing as well and just growing that relationship and seeing how much that he does care and you know seeing how much that he does put into me and I think people now realize the reason why I have stuck by Andy and you know we got over the hurdles that needed to get over for this fight and got him into the country and got him in the visa sorted so you know it's been a massive massive advantage as people has seen you know having Andy there not only just because of like he's my coach in the training camp and the game plan and all that there that we've put through in his box and IQ but you know Andy has been there he's been in that ring he has been the underdog he has come through and he knows exactly what it takes you know to get to that top level and you know it was unbelievable to have him there and other lad you know that has recently come apart of the team is Shane O'Sullivan a Waterford man you know he's actually a hurler plays with Ballet Gunnar all Ireland champions played with Waterford County Hurlin as well in the past but you know he's come on board as a sports psychologist for me and has been a massive massive positive to the team as well over the last year so and you know the team has really grown so strong with Gary McCullough there still part of the team Sean Foley part of the team you know my management Robert Diaz everybody like it was one of the first times that I really had that solid base that solid full team around me and it showed in my performance it showed in the fight week and you know what you were saying there as well I don't know was it this question in the previous one Greg but you know we Berlanger was the man you know what I mean he was the one that was hyped up but as you've seen the first face-off the press conference the way and everything the tide started turning as it got closer to the fight people started to yes people were writing me off but people have seen that I was there I meant business there was no hanging around after the face-off there was no there was no hanging around after the way and after the press conference I was in did what I had to do shown that I was there shown them shown them that I meant business and we were out the door back to the hotel switching off doing what I had to do and then getting ready for fight now just a couple of things as it relates to the fight you seemed almost bigger than him on fight night was that just the way it appeared on tv or did you rehydrate put on a lot of weight or whatever I just imagined him being much bigger than you on fight night but you yes so like that's that's been a it's been a big conversation that has been going on before the fight and since the fight everybody thought the Berlanger was going to be the bigger man and everything like that but you know I have been boxing at 75 kgs since I was in my early 20s as an amateur and when I turned professional middleweight is actually 72.5 kgs so I have been actually boxing at a lower weight than I was whenever I was in my early 20s which you know doesn't really make a whole lot of sense because you naturally develop you naturally fill out so super middleweight is your that's your ideal weight okay that is my ideal weight that's 76 kgs 76.2 kgs 168 pound but like I've really filled into this weight and not only just looks wise you know just looking big and looking strong like the whole fight week wasn't based around making weight okay we got to do this session because we had to make weight did one training session on Thursday night just to make weight and every other session that we did when we were in New York was just meticulously going over the game plan the mindset the focus switching on for that hour and a half in the evening time just focus and drill and doing everything that we had to be prepared and focus for the fight and then everything else outside that was switched off and just chilling and joining it and taking everything in but super middleweight is definitely the weight for me it was the much you know style wise people might say upper angle looked a stronger fighter but that's because he's a come forward fighter and he is a strong fighter he's a he's a strong physical hard puncher and that's the type of style that he has but you know even in the warm-up the week of the fight like I just felt and Andy was saying like you know just hitting the pads like you could really feel the power now and you had him going at least on two or three occasions just in terms of the tactics you had your glove in his face he didn't like it he tried to slap it out a couple of times and you kept that going as I say for the most part for at least 10 of the 12 rounds is that to frustrate a come forward boxer to keep him sort of you know off balance as such but just sort of have something to think about all the time because I think it's seemingly a little thing but it seemed to play actually really quite an important part in the fight yeah it was it was just something that it was kind of going back a little bit to me whenever I was kind of you know as an amateur and you know people couldn't get in on top of me and people couldn't you know get inside you know whenever you have like they say you know your jab is the key to boxing you know it's the key to open up all the doors and you know having that jab and it wasn't only really the jab it was it was the stance it was the way that we had it you know tweaked to to look and pose and to make him double think about always you know once he made a move he had to know that he was in danger like with me have my hands at that stage and having my eyes garing down on him like he knew that he couldn't just walk forward he was going to get hit if he did so he had to be willing to take a few shots to land a few shots and that played that definitely played a vital part for for the fight because you know he definitely thought twice and then when I did hit him and when I did rock him you know that was a key key moment in the fight when you do watch it back contrast your corner to his corner it's hilarious really it's a very haired it's a very very different atmosphere in the opposite and I'll not keep you very much longer Jason just in terms of your conditioning as well watching it I thought right I mean you weren't on your bike right but your tactics required you know to be on your toes for much of the fight I didn't think you'd be fit to do it you pretty much did your conditioning is unbelievable your young fighter but in terms of boxing terms do you know what I mean you're you've still got plenty to go but you know you're conditioning something else yeah it's it's something you know that and I hope that there's a young athletes young sports people that are listening here today because it's not all about how much you do do you know what I mean fitness can be a lot in your head mentally when whenever you're in competition if you're if you're hyped up you know if you're not in that flow state if you're not in that state of being focused on the job at hand you know andy says a great one the more you work the less you have to work you know it's like the more I was focused the more that I was tuned in and what I was doing the quicker the fight was going by the more I was in control and like I have actually scaled my training back a little bit over the years to what I used to do because to be honest I think sometimes I was overtrained sometimes I was you know a bit burned out going into fights whereas I've really tweaked my training now and yes you know it's it's a big um it's a big thing you know in terms with andy the the training that we've been doing and Sean Foley here in the Fimbali centre and Gary and Rufo was well there like with me and with me and Sean like we've been really working to to build my frame as well to fit into the super middleweight division so we've been focusing a little bit more on the strength and condition inside the things but just putting in that meticulous work like if you're doing the rounds in the gym do you know what I mean if you're doing the rounds on the bag on the pads you know a lot of people just think that they need to be doing more more more more all time sometimes less is more if you can just keep the head and keep that nervous energy controlled yeah and just two more questions there's the car it's at 116, 108 116, 108, 118, 106 there was one knockout that one knockdown that wasn't a knockdown I'm not sure I think it was the one in the fifth and there could have been a touchdown the other way and I mean yes there were two knockdowns in the 12th but that can only as far as I'm aware be counted as a 10-7 like do you think those school cards are unfairly wide there they certainly it's certainly 118, 106 I just don't like this subjective type of scoring that we're seeing now in terms of oh well you know power punches over jabs or aggression over more defensive style I just wish that could be normalized so we know exactly what we're going to get because this is the third week of as far as I would say main card dodgy cards yeah the boxing game it is very I suppose you know it's very abstract in terms of judges in my fight in my fight I have to say now you know the knockdowns did did play a massive part in it to be honest I think there was only two real knockdowns one of them was a posh the dot and one of them was definitely a trip like you know I tripped over me one thing now you could see that yeah and one of them like and I was I was very shocked and also there was three legitimate low blows as well I'm not a man to make excuses no way whatsoever well my eyes watered there was one way you were sort of on the off the hard side of the camera and I'll tell you one thing that will take a little bit of time to recover from I think because it was right there in the in the family jewels let's let's put it like that right in the family allowance Jason you know it was something like that that they could have easily have took a point or two off Berlanger for that you know what I mean we knew what we were going into we knew we were going into his his hometown we knew his manager is as a new yorker and has a lot of pull over there and the new york state commission and we knew we would be up against in that terms but you know looking at looking at the zone the the commentary and some of the scorecards they actually had me up going into the last round for sure yeah scorecards do you know what I mean yeah oh like it is what it is and I think just going to your question greg on talking about scoring like I think it should be explained and I think the judges should possibly in the future be interviewed after a fight or told before a fight which way they're going to be judging the fighter they're going to be looking for the aggressive fighter are they going to be looking for the clean punched fighter you know what way is it because boxing is a sport that everybody looks at it in a different way you know if you're landing good clean punches my own personal opinion is boxing is hit and don't get hit if I hit you more times and you hit me I'm one and that's it I'm not talking about pouring jabs either we're talking about you know actual punches and you out put now if you put up the power shots because of the style of his fighting yeah okay but if you're looking at jabs it was either equal or you were ahead in that right Jason listen I've taken up too much of your time but I want to one want to know what's next and I think this is it quite be an interesting insight to your psychology on this and where you see your career going now because listen there's no doubt that that performance gets you into a big marquis fight or you know there is a pathway to a world title in different directions do you know what I mean so where do you where do you want to go with your career now is it the the big show that maybe you'll go in as a heavy underdog again or is it a pathway and perhaps an easier pathway maybe a two or three fight pathway to becoming you know a fully fledged world champion what do you want to do next or maybe both of those are the same thing yeah it's um it's very interesting now you know I am in a really good position and I have put a bit of credit back on my name I've got a bit of respect back on my name again and put myself right back up there and you know I was messaging Eddie here in the day after the fight and everything as well we had a good conversation to be honest Greg I haven't thought too much on what is next or where we're going to go next I am going to to obviously got married didn't get away in our honeymoon yet so that's the that's the first and foremost now at the minute we're going to get ready to see what the crack is and where we're going to get off for our honeymoon but I'm really enjoying what I'm doing now I'm enjoying where I'm going in my career and I'm enjoying the training I'm enjoying the the dieting as well believe it or not I'm enjoying everything that I'm doing right now and there's a real new sense of life about me and I think that shows in my performances so I believe that I am coming into probably my peak of my career now and I know it would be a shame to to maybe walk away at this stage from that so it's something that that I have to really think about now over the next couple of weeks but the future is very bright for me there's a lot of big fights out there there is definitely a chance and a potential of getting that world title what about you against someone like Billy Joe Saunders and this as an eliminator I would love I would love to see that something like like as soon as you mentioned that like it's something that makes me smile and you know these are the type of fights that excite me and these are the type of fights that bring out the best in me as well Greg like the fight the likes of Billy Joe would be would be great that would be and I'd put your favorite going into that but that's an arena fight like in 100% and I know Katie Taylor is going to be back fighting in Ireland again in November so you know been talking to Eddie there nothing really said or nothing you know spoke about that yet but if I stumbled on the plot I've stumbled on the plot just because he's looking for a good opponent for him too so it's perfect you know so it's definitely something that we could we can get excited about now the future is bright everything's looking great so yeah no it's just we've got to just stay desperate no one day at a time and keep moving on and life right come on I'll let you finish Black Mirror and buck your honeymoon take care I said you're both caring yeah god you do take care all right that's Jason quickly there and it's brilliant to be speaking to Jason off the back of a defeat but it boxing is a funny old game in that his stock has risen and arguably Berlangas who was looking for big fights against the likes of Canelo and all he's not going to get that I don't think off the back of that performance but Billy Joe Saunders Jason quickly for any boxing fans out there I think listen I'd long chat with Jason because as I say not everyone is into every sport but what he did at the weekend really was a remarkable achievement and I think it needed to be recognized okay back after the break watch the show live now on YouTube, Facebook and at HighlandRadio.com July bringing you the super talented Sharon Shannon on Friday the 7th see Lennon Festival Remelton on Facebook 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We follow on, you know, from your previous interviewer there, maybe we should be putting on the boxing gloves at this stage ourselves. But all joking aside, yes, the beef situation in Ireland is at a very low web. We have always been advised to keep an eye on the board B tracker pricing right across Europe and global price markets. And they were never as buying the broad, but we seem to be getting the raw end of the stick here that have been in freefall for virtually the last three or four months of this year. And, you know, we have been sort of the meat processes in this country have been sort of advocating, you know, that continue on driving on producing beef we needed in May and June, and never before have we been let down as bad as the last period of two months. You know, cattle were bought in the springtime now are virtually losing money hand over fist. And even in our own situation, the last few weeks there, you know, cattle are not even at a break even stage. So it's very disillusioned disillusioned to whole beef producers in this country.  So it's very hard for farmers to to understand the present situation. Well, who's squeezing? I mean, obviously, it's farmers that are paying the price, but who's squeezing here?  And we have been sort of playing the trade there, you know, that watching markets, looking for niche, niche markets, supplying high spec and quality food. And, you know, processors and supermarkets are the other side of the table. And it comes down to is it them or is it us? I personally think, you know, that the markets are strong out there. I know food prices were never as expensive to consumers. But at the end of the day, you know, on 100 euro or 100 pound a week shopping basket, food prices have really only increased seven or eight pounds, which you know, in the general scheme of things is a relatively small increase when you look at energy costs and leisure activity costs, everything else.  But what has been going on in recent months is a huge travesty to Irish farmers. And it is eventually at the stage there now where it's going to totally discourage people from producing, you know, this quality food and listening to an earlier radio program there, you know, all about nature preservation and all of that, you know, that there's a huge onus on meat processors and government departments to encourage food production and to make sure that whatever is available at the marketplace is passed down to the producer. Yeah. There seems to be an ongoing problematic relationship between factories and farmers in terms of messaging. You know, I've covered these stories over over the years and, you know, the factories advise farmers one way and then move the goalposts another way. This time around, I think it was advising farmers to feed cattle for May and June, you know what I mean? Like is this is the trust as the trust if there was trust there has it broken down now? Yeah, well, for the last 18 months, you know, prior to maybe March April, you know, the industry was on a positive note. But now it, you know, this is all saying a one step forward and two step backwards. It has really taken three steps backwards at this stage because never before were our input costs as high. And, you know, when you mean hovering around 400 yours a tonne and silage costs and day to day running costs never as high, you know, it's incumbent on me process to return to farmers the best available price.  And you can lobby and you can make representations and you can call for this, that and then. But really, you know, if we're at a tipping point here, what can farmers do then? What are farmers in this country capable of doing it to put it up to the factories to make their point other than verbalizing it?  What can be done? Well, you know, our hands are literally tied to a certain extent and you have a minister coming from your own constituency up there. You know, he was queried the other day there about the level of imports of beef imports coming into this country. And he made a flippant reply in my view, you know, that is business, you know, we're exporting import country. But the equivalent of 40,000 tons of beef coming in here in one quarter and put that over a 12-year average is the equivalent of all the live exports that go out of this country. So in other words, there won't full swoop then. All the work that goes into promoting live exports all over Europe and Northern Africa is just completely canceled out. And we just wonder why meat processors, stroke importers, feel the need to bring in so much beef into this country. We're a main exporting nation and where we export, where we have the element.  Firstly, you said earlier on, why would anyone get into the industry or stay in it? They want you out. Secondly, even if we're importing, even if we import all the beef in the world, still, if they can get rid of farmers like yourself and others and meet emissions targets, that's job done. You know, it's not, it's look over there. It doesn't matter if we're importing beef as long as they can show on the books that agriculture now is responsible for a fraction of our output, say, for an example. So really, the truth be told, they want you to jack it in. Yeah, it doesn't matter if the beef comes from Brazil because that doesn't really matter. That's a very sad state of affairs. You know, for an island that has kept this country afloat through many the time when needs were most. And you know, to look across the green plains of Ireland, to a now to now allow it to turn into a wilderness and it's not going to be it's going to be forestry and solar panels. That's what's going to replace the Greenfields. Isn't that amazing, you know, and they will allow them the desecration of the Amazon and to allow them the South American farmers then to supply food and of a dubious nature up here, where they're using all sorts of additives in one shape or form to get to get kilos of beef and animals and to forego then all the good work that's been done here for the last 40 or 50 years.  Now, I'm at the stage of my life, you know, where you know, I come in near retirement age, but for any young person to be encouraged to go into farming, I think agriculture is way down the agenda. And you saw fishing in there as well, by the way. Absolutely. Now, it's ironic you should say that because it is impossible to get good quality fish in the middle. And just before I came on there, I was talking to a supplier down in Clare and I am prepared to travel 100 kilometers once a month to collect good quality fish. And he's he was amazed with my reaction because the only fish that's available in the midlands here is virtually imported stuff or from fish bar. Right, John, we have to leave it there. Thanks for your time. I just think it's time that certainly in the media, if it's not already happening that the situation that the reality that is happening in this country is actually called out. Do you know what I mean? That the call out what is actually going on here. Right, John, thanks for your time. John Cleary there, vice chair of the ICSA. Thanks so much for listening to the show today. We're going to do it all again tomorrow morning from nine. Have a lovely day from me, Caroline and Eve. Stay tuned. John Breslin is on the way. The Nine Till Noon Show with the Lennon Festival Remel


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Because otherwise they'd have to accept that they have failed. They'd have to accept that they are the issue. So they will do whatever it takes to lock down their new victim. So that they can feel better about themselves. And the new person will feel like they are helping the narcissist. Like they are rescuing them from a difficult situation. And that's how it works so well. You may remember that it worked on you. When you first met the narcissist they played the victim. They told you about how their ex mistreated them. They played for your support. Because that is how they move from relationship to relationship. Without accepting any accountability. So they move on to this new person. And they enter this delusional fantasy world. Where everything is perfect. But it only lasts for a few months or less. Because they are so out of control. Anyone who stays with them longer than that is being abused. They've become the narcissist's doormat. They've become the emotional punching bag. But in the beginning it may seem like everything's fine. Because they're fueled by the fantasy. They're playing a different character. They're trying to learn this new person. And that is why you won't hear from them during this time. Because it requires a lot of their time and energy to train them to be their doormat. To be someone that they can walk all over. To be their slave. But at some point the fantasy wears away. It begins to die down. And by that point they may have already married this new person and had children with them. And this new person may never have expected this to happen. But eventually the narcissist gets bored. They get tired of you. And when that happens they're ready to leave. They're ready for another dose. Another rush from another person. They're addicted to people. And that is why their new supply will always fail. The cycle always repeats itself. The earliest stage is full of laughter, lust and attraction. Everything seems perfect. But it's all fake. And eventually they get tired of maintaining the facade. They don't have anything left to give. So you get bored of them. And they get bored of you. And then it's a done deal. Because they were giving you a false character. And you may have invested a lot of money into them. You may have married them and had children with them. But now they're ready to bail. Because they can't control their addiction. They love the rush of meeting someone new. But they can't sustain it. They can't be involved in anything for a long period of time. They're only good when things are new. Because after some time they get bored. They get tired. And then they will start to abuse you. Which is why they're really only good for when I'd stand. We're friends with benefits type situation. They're not good for anything else. They will only let you down. They will only disappoint you. Which is why when you try to hold on to them they're disgusted with you. They showed strong disapproval. As though it's something unpleasant or offensive. They don't want anything to do with you.  But really it's them. They just did a good job of hiding the issues from you. You thought you knew them. But you never knew anything about them. Because they gave you a false character. A character that they weren't attached to. Which is why it was so easy for them to leave. It was so easy for them to discard you. When they decided to bail on that character. When they bail on the character everything else goes with it. And then they create a new character with someone new. But they can't sustain it for long. Because they're addicted to people. And it's no different to someone who is addicted to drugs. They're going to do whatever it takes to get it. They will lie to you. They will steal from you. Because they like when everything is shiny and new. So wherever they go they leave behind them a lot of damage and destruction.  And there's nothing you can do to change that. There's nothing you can do to fix them. There's nothing you can do to make them better. You can try to give them love. But they're not going to be able to receive it. Because they don't love themselves. And you can't receive something that you don't already possess. Which is why they settle for external validation. They settle for something that's worthless and meaningless. But it's enough to keep them going. Which is why they're always looking for supply. They're always looking for people to cater to them and regulate their emotions. But people will always fall short of their needs and demands. No one will ever be enough for the narcissist. Because they're not enough for themselves. And until they give themselves what they need. Every relationship will fail. It doesn't matter if they get married and have children. They're still going to feel empty inside. Nothing on the outside is going to fix what is wrong with them on the inside. That's something only they can fix. So they go from relationship to relationship. And think they found someone better who's going to make things right. But it's not going to change anything. It's just going to make things worse for them. It's just going to make them even more dependent on other people. When they just need to depend on themselves. Instead of expecting other people to give them what they need. But they will continue to do that. Because they don't want to be better. They're quite comfortable with how things are. They're like their disorder. It works for them. So they have no desire to change. But they're never going to be happy. They're never going to experience a healthy relationship with anyone. They're never going to experience true love. The best you will ever get from your narcissist is an illusion and a fantasy. And that is what they try to sell to you. Until you realize it's all fake. And that is when they turn against you. Rinse and repeat. Thank you for watching. 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So, we'll go ahead and get started. As you may have guessed from the schedule or from my intro slide, I'm Frank Rowand. I worked for Sony. I've worked for Sony around 13 or 14 years now and quite a few other embedded links companies before that and proprietary companies. I have several roles in Sony and one of those roles led to a real-life story which I'm going to talk about today, the impetus for these slides. I work with different groups inside Sony who are learning how to work with open source and how to interact, how to submit code, things like that. And I was working with a team that was creating a brand new driver for an ASIC, a TV tuner. And we gave them some advice on how to get their patches in the kernel, reviewed their patches and helped them out a bit. And so they send in your typical patch series. And as usual, the last patch in the series included some housekeeping things, things like make files, but most importantly, adding an entry into the maintainer's file. So here we find that we've added a Sony engineer for a set of files that encompass this driver. So just by getting this patch series accepted, magic, this engineer is now a kernel maintainer. And you don't really think about that so often. If you're just putting in a new driver and just adding your name to a few files in the maintainer's file, but you really are a maintainer at this point. So what happens next? You wait a few months, maybe four or five months. And an email appears in my inbox from this development team. And if you look at the bottom of this email, someone has sent them a patch. So this development team is forwarding me this patch and saying, what the heck am I supposed to do with this? Should I be replying to them that this is a confirmed fix? Or should I give them some comments? What should I do? So this exposed a gap in our internal training. It turns out that we taught people how to submit a driver, but we never talked to them about what it was gonna be like to be a maintainer. It was an area that was totally unexplored. So that leaves the question open of what role do they have in any patches that later get submitted to their software that they put into the tree? And there are a couple of plausible paths that patches and fixes can go through. Mostly I'll be talking about the, well, I'll be talking halfway about the likely path and also possible path. There are two different directions here. The easiest way is when someone sends a fix, the developer sends a fix up to the typical subsystem maintainer totally bypassing you, the driver maintainer. And the subsystem maintainer worries about getting the patch up to cornell.org being Linus and exposure in the Linux next tree for testing. Another possible path that you could choose to follow is that a fix would go directly to the driver maintainer, the person who created the driver. And that person would either interact with the subsystem maintainer or directly with Linus and Linux next. And about half my talk is going to be about those possible interactions. So you should work with your subsystem maintainer and make sure that you're on a common ground about what role you're going to be taking just so that you're on the same page. So there are five different possible roles that you can take. And I'll talk about these each in detail. But the first is just to totally ignore your role. By the way, my slides are already upstream on the sked.org page and the enix.org wiki if you want to copy the slides. And if you have any questions, interrupt me at any point and I'll answer questions along the way. So the second role you can take is you can provide advice to your upstream maintainer, advise them on the patches as they come in. The third is that you can directly review patches, explicitly review them. The fourth is you can actually become a sub-maintenor. And that was that less likely path I was showing where patches would flow through you. And there are probably other roles you can take off that I didn't even think about. But I think these are the main ways you can get involved. So the first way you can ignore your role totally. The amount of work you have to do for this is absolutely no work. This is the easiest path to take. But there's a consequence to this. The next time that you have a feature or a driver that you want to submit, if the maintainer is aware of you taking this do nothing role, they're going to be less likely to accept your new feature. When you send a new feature and the maintainer wants you to be there to help maintain it over time. If you want to follow this path, please, please, please send a patch up and remove your name from the maintainer's file. That way everyone's clear on what the story is. A slightly more involved process is you can provide advice to the upstream maintainer. When you see a patch email on the mail list or if it's directed to you, which it should be because you're in the maintainer's file, you can add an act by tag. This is somewhat a controversial statement on my part. If you look at the actual definition of an act by tag, it also implies that you've reviewed the patch. Actual practice in reality varies as to whether you've actually reviewed it when you send an act to tag. My perception, which we'll get debated by other maintainers, is that when you add your act by tag, you're telling the person who the patch is going to flow through that you're okay with them accepting that patch. So that person may be your subsystem maintainer. It may be an entirely different subsystem if a patch series covers multiple subsystems. And that's really commonly where act by tags get used when multiple maintainers are trying to coordinate with each other. If you do see problems with the patch, you should at least reply to them and mention. And I'll get to the next role, which is actually officially reviewing. This is kind of an informal, you're not claiming to be a reviewer. You're just trying to provide helpful advice at this point. But the minimum you should be reading and analyzing the patch, you should test the patch. And this is really important. You might be the only person in the community who has the actual hardware that this patch can be tested on. Especially if it's very expensive hardware or very niche hardware. There's a way you can get around that. You can provide your hardware to your sub maintainer. And that's highly recommended for many reasons. And that will allow other people to test the patches. You can also make your test lab available on the network so that people could test your hardware via the network. So the amount of work for the first option of doing nothing was no work. This step, taking on a slightly larger role, it's still a small amount of work. And the important thing is that you're putting a burden on your upstream maintainer. One thing that you want to do is make life easier for your maintainer. That makes your maintainers happy. And Greg Cage gives lots of talks about trying to make your maintainer happy. So just go reference his stuff. A slightly more expanded role, you can officially start reviewing the patches. This means that you do everything you did at the lower level plus, you now explicitly review every patch that comes to you. And comes to the mail list. You should be providing good feedback. And this is kind of the art of being a maintainer. You need to let people know what is good about the patch. You need to let them know what's not quite good enough and what needs to be changed. And you can consider providing them suggestions on how to change it. Sometimes it's enough simply to say this has to change and it's obvious and they'll figure it out. Sometimes you need to be a little bit more involved. And when something isn't good enough and not acceptable, you have to be explicit about that. And there are a lot of talks where people will tell you one of the most important roles of a maintainer is saying no. And it's also one of the most difficult roles to do it effectively in and in a positive way. Once you've reviewed the patch, you then need to add your reviewed by tag, which is simply a reply email. And this is a little bit more work than the previous level of maintainership. The amount of work really varies based on your subsystem and based on your actual patch, based on how active the fixes are. So it's hard to predict how much work this will actually be. Talk a little bit about reviewed by. This is taken straight from the kernel documentation. I'm not going to read this line by line, but when you do reviewed by tag, I suggest that you read this and really understand what you're saying is reviewed by. But to summarize it, point A is saying basically I've done a technical review. And is this patch appropriate and is it ready? Point B is saying, if I found problems, I communicated to the person who submitted the patch. And I am happy or satisfied with their response to my comments. Point C is basically saying, it's possible that this patch could be better, but it will make a positive contribution in its current form. And basically it's good enough and there aren't any critical issues. Point D is basically saying, I'm not guaranteeing the usefulness or validity of this patch at all. And then this all gets summarized at the bottom of that list in the documentation. Essentially saying, this tag is your opinion that this patch is an appropriate modification of the kernel, and there are not any remaining serious issues. There still might be minor issues. There still may be additional work that needs to get added in a future patch. But it's good enough to go in for right now. If you want to move up yet one more level, and most people probably will not move to this level, you can actually become a sub-maintainer. And this is going to require more conversations with your maintainer. And everything, all the other levels of maintainer are plus you help the maintainer out, essentially. You have some more responsibilities. The maintainer, depending on the relationship you have with them, they may want you to take on some of their specific tasks and help them out. They may like it when you start reviewing other drivers that are similar to yours. You're an expert in a certain technical area, things that are similar to your driver. So your knowledge and expertise can be very helpful in providing good reviews for other similar drivers. And again, the amount of work involved in this depends on your driver on the subsystem, what your maintainer wants you to do, what you want to do. And it's all negotiable. Some other tasks that you need to do is you need to think in a broader way of looking at the kernel as a whole and at your subsystem as a whole. You can't just look at your narrow use case. You need to be thinking about overall architecture. You need to make sure that that architecture is maintained when things get added. Architecture may evolve and change as a result of patches coming in, but you need to be aware that that change is happening if it is. You need to make sure that you're not just solving one small use case at the detriment to other use cases. Linux scales incredibly well from very small embedded devices to supercomputers. The top 100 supercomputer list contains mostly Linux. And it can be difficult to encompass all those potential use cases. You need to make sure that the patches as they get added don't hurt maintainability of the subsystem. It's always a balancing act. You want to be adding functionality, and sometimes adding that functionality is going to make it harder to maintain. And you'll see that if you look at the Linux kernel from 2000 and look at it today, the complexity has grown immensely. And there's some parts of the kernel that consequently are very, very difficult to modify, fix, add on to. So it's a balancing act for a maintainer, keeping that at all in balance. You need to make sure that the person submitting the patches explains clearly what their use case is or what their problem is. A lot of times you can help that person adjust their statement just a little bit, and it might solve a much broader problem than they're trying to fix. Or if you can help them look at it in a different way, they may realize there's maybe a different approach to solving the problem. You need to make sure that testing was done. You need to make sure that static checks were also done, which is another type of testing. Compatibility is important. Performance, some patches talk about improving performance or solving a performance problem. Some patches explicitly say, this is a really, really important feature, and it's going to hurt performance. But this patch is so critical that we should accept the performance hit. A really good example of that are the recent spectra meltdown, all those other patches, where we were taking a big performance hit in the kernel to fix those security issues. But it was felt that it was critical to solve those. And over time, they've been trying to reduce the performance hit from that specific set of patches. Another task that you have is you're there to help your developers. When they have questions, issues, concerns, you're a resource for them. I mentioned that you should be talking with your upstream maintainer. You need to make sure you're on the same page. And if you want to assume different levels of responsibility, there's a lot of freedom to move back and forth between the levels. There's no need to commit to a three-year role as a top-level sub-maintenor, where you're devoting 20 hours a week every week to it. Negotiate with your sub-maintenor. So to summarize all of that, all those different roles you could take, you have various levels that you can get involved in that flow of that patch coming from developers into the Linux kernel, from a very minor involvement to a very heavy involvement. It's really important to try to make your upstream maintainer's job easier. I say that selfishly as a maintainer. And again, your role is to help the contributors below you. And this is true of all maintainers. You're there to help the people above you. So people who are top-level maintainers still are there to make Linux's life easier. And they're always trying to help people at the bottom come into the kernel and start working on it and understand it better. So changing the tags here a little bit. This is kind of a strange jump, but going to tags. Tags and patch emails. It's an interesting way to provide some other insights just looking at tags. So what tags should you require that come in emails to you? And when you process a patch in an email, what tags will you be adding as a maintainer? Signed off, every patch that's sent to you or sent to your sub-maintainer, every patch that's going into Linux's tree must have a signed off by tag on it or it will not be accepted. If you take a patch email and then you forward that patch email to your sub-maintainer, that patch is flowing through you, then you would add your signed off tag. If you're simply letting the patch go to your sub-maintainer bypassing you, your sub-maintainer will add their signed off by tag. And this is one of the meanings behind signed off tag, paragraph C in the documentation, just simply saying, somebody gave me this contribution directly and they certified that they were allowed to submit it and that's what A, B, and C are. They're basically providing assurances that they have the right to submit this patch to you. So you're making sure that chain of custody of the patch is maintained as it comes into the kernel. This one is not a tag. This is a, it still fits in the patch comment area. It's not an email CC, it's in the patch comment. If you CC the stable people, it looks like an email CC. It's something that they'll notice when a commit gets accepted into the Linux kernel and that will be a clue to them that this is a patch that fixes something that's in older released kernels and maybe they should add this into the stable trees and then they'll make that determination. If they're ignoring your patch and you really think it goes in there, you can talk to Greg KH, he has other ways of getting patches into stable. Fix this tag. This one I strongly encourage. If you're fixing a bug, it has a lot of useful features. If you're a reviewer and you're trying to figure out whether a patch fixes a bug, having a pointer to the actual code that's broken really makes it a whole lot easier to analyze whether the fix is effective. If you're testing a fix, it's a whole lot easier to be able to go to the version of the kernel right before the commit that created the bug, verify that the problem doesn't show up in your test case, add that one commit, make sure that the problem does show up, continue forward, add the fix, make sure the bug is gone again through your test case. Next tag tested by, how much should patches be tested? There's not a black and white set of rules that every single patch goes through and there's a lot of variation between the subsystems and a lot of personal preferences by maintainers. So this is my personal take on it, things that I think should be mandatory. The first one almost everyone will agree with, your patch should have been checked against check patch. If it fails that, you didn't do, even the beginning of due diligence. The next, you should make sure that when you compile the kernel after adding your patches, no new compile warnings occur. Generally, the kernel day to day does not generate any compile warnings for most configurations. When I get a new major release, occasionally I'll see one or two new warnings and sometimes it's because of a specific configuration that I have that maybe no one else tested. But the community as a whole is very good about maintaining lack of warnings with no special diagnostics turns on. And I'll talk about a little bit stricter compile warnings on the next slide. This may sound really stupid, but if your patch is fixing a bug, test it and make sure that the bug really does go away after applying your patch. You may have to try a few different configurations to make sure it's not configuration specific that it fixes that it fixes a broad set of configurations. And that's just a judgment call of how do you figure out what all to test. Your subsystem may have a test suite. Some of the file systems specifically have suites that they expect you to run a device tree, which is what I'm a maintainer of. We have built-in tests. So just find out what your subsystem expects and follow that. If you are adding a new feature, make sure that the feature by the time you finish it actually matches what the documentation is. A lot of times your feature will evolve over time and it's really easy for the documentation to get out of sync with the actual implementation.  Make sure your kernel still boots after you apply the patch. And sometimes again, this might be a matter of trying a few different configurations, maybe trying a different architecture. Most people will not try building and booting a different architecture. Some people are really good about that and religious and they'll try three or four or five different architectures and they use virtual machines typically to do that. Or they may have a large board farm available. That's a really easy problem to hit if you don't test different architectures. Okay, mention that for compile warnings, you can check a little bit more stringently. And when you do a kernel build, you can specify w equals one, two, three or any combination of those. And each of those levels of warnings is a different set of warnings. For make w equals one in general, you should not create any new warnings. And kernel is a whole that's pretty well done. Once you get to w equals two or three, then you get a little bit more esoteric warnings. And sometimes they're justifiable. Sometimes you just can't avoid them. There are a lot of warnings that come out of macros in header files. So if that problem is already there in the header file, you're stuck unless you're fixing someone else's problem that's preexisting. It may be incentive that you may want to start going fixing header files. But you can always say, hey, not my problem. Someone created this problem ahead and it's already there. It's already hitting everybody. The other static tools, sparse and smatcher, I recommend them very highly. I would say, I don't have any justification for this, but I would say most people actually don't run these tools. If you run these tools and catch things, you will stand out as being a really good person, a really good developer. And again, I mentioned that if you're going to impact performance, you should be doing performance measurements and providing data for that. And that's such a wide open field. I can't even give a hint as to specifically what type of data in any given case. I mean, there's so many different types of performance data that matter in the kernel and different subsystems. The last tag is reviewed by, and I talked about that earlier, time expectations. How are you personally gonna get hit by this whole role? You're going to need to allocate some time in your personal work schedule. You'll want to make sure your manager knows that you can't just ignore the community for three weeks to the next window when your schedule opens up. By the time that three weeks goes by, someone else will have accepted the patch or whatever. Kind of a side note on that, if you're going to be on vacation or otherwise unavailable for a while, it's really nice if you can find someone else to help fill in your role. Especially if your driver is for hardware where not all the documentation might be publicly available. You might be able to share hints from your documentation to other developers as they hit specific cases. And so if you have someone else in your team who has access to those documents, that can be extremely helpful. And they also may understand the driver and be able to provide good review. For bonus points, if you want to be really, really a good maintainer, monitor or skim your subsystem mail list for a couple of reasons. One is your subsystem is changing over time. And what it looked like when you first developed your driver may not look like what it is today. So just keeping track of how the subsystem is evolving will help you as a reviewer. Also, people who submit patches are supposed to use getMaintenor, it should find your name in the maintainers file. You should get CC'd or have a two on the mail for a patch. But that doesn't always happen. I'd say about 5% of patches in my subsystem I don't get directly emailed. If you want to keep up with even broader trends, so that was subsystem, if you wanna look at what's going on in the entire kernel, there's one more email list you might want to consider subscribing to. And that's the case summit discuss mail list. And this is where the top level maintainers have all these theoretical esoteric and actually practical pragmatic discussions on how our processes works, how it's going to evolve. And interestingly, a lot of these processes that I've talked about today have been discussed over the last month or two on this list coming up into our next summit. And Portugal in a couple of weeks. And that's one place where you see people don't necessarily agree what act by means or reviewed by or kind of interesting. So to summarize what I've said so far today, once your name is in the maintainers file, you automatically, you now are a maintainer, congratulations. You can choose how involved you want to be in that maintainer role, work out with your maintainer what you want that to be. I discussed some of the different tasks that you'll be responsible for. And I wanted to point out one more time when you need help, your upstream maintainer is there to help you just like you're there to help people submitting things to you. Thank you for coming, questions, thoughts, suggestions. While people are thinking of questions, I did mention one unlikely path.  And that's all described on this website in a wiki. So if you do get in that position, just go look at that. And the administrators will help you out. Sorry, the slides are online so. Okay, I'll let you take a picture. Okay, questions, cheers. No hecklers, my front row is missing today. Well, thank you for coming, I'll be here all week. You can also reach out to me by email if you have questions and thoughts. And thanks for coming today.