xated on winning over moderate Republicans and these suburban white voters. But listen, it's not just this fixed portion of the electorate that will vote in every single election. See, when turnout is high, Democrats win. When it's low, they lose. Hillary Clinton lost because she couldn't excite younger people. Individuals stood home and a lot of people did flip from Democrats to Republicans to support Donald Trump. But I mean, if you wanna win the best way, the safest bet is to turn out the base and how are you gonna turn out the base? How are you going to energize black and brown people if you were the mayor who had this explicitly racist policy where you threw black people against the wall and frisked them? Like there's a video from the New York Times with an individual named Ty Kwan and he explained how he was stopped four to five times per month during the stop and frisk years. Four to five times per month. You can't win with that kind of a record. People of color will not come out and vote for you.  And when it comes to the issue of racial profiling, they actually stayed on this for a while. I'm shocked that MSNBC actually talked about the audio that Benjamin Dixon released, or at least popularized, where he explained how, look, we have to over-police black neighborhoods because that's where all the crime is. Like I'm genuinely surprised that the media did their job in that respect. But Joe Biden jumped in and explained how racial profiling that we saw from Mike Bloomberg, it really is disgusting, it's evil. The mayor makes an interesting point. The mayor says that he has a great record, that he's done these wonderful things. Well, the fact of the matter is, he has not managed his city very, very well when he was there. He didn't get a whole lot done. He had to stop and frisk, throwing close to five million young black men up against the wall. And when we came along in our administration, the president Obama, and said, we're gonna send in a moderator to a mediator, stop it, he said, that's unnecessary. So we're gonna get a chance to talk about the mayor's record. But in terms of who is best prepared to beat Donald Trump, look at your poll and what it says. Now, what Bloomberg tried to do was feign ignorance here. He tried to make it seem as if, he didn't really know about what stop and frisk was doing, how he had the NYPD basically terrorizing communities of color, but that's a lie. That is a complete lie. He knew what was happening. And he refused to end stop and frisk until I believe a judge ordered him to. Now, Elizabeth Warren actually got him there on that lie and claim, no, you knew exactly what this was. Targeting black and brown people wasn't some type of unintended consequence. That was exactly what you wanted to do as the mayor of New York City. So he really tried to wiggle out of the corner that he was backed into and none of the Democrats were having it. Nobody would let him out. And there was a moment where, moving on a little bit, where Mike Bloomberg was asked whether or not he deserved or earned the money that he has. He's worth over $50 billion. And Bernie Sanders had just the perfect response to what he said because he answered, yes, I did earn that. But look what Bernie Sanders said in response. You know what, Mr. Bloomberg wasn't you who made all that money. Maybe your workers played some role in that as well. That was just brilliant. And it communicates to people that Bernie Sanders knows about the value of just normal workers. We take for granted the people who work at Walmart. We take for granted just the people who are working these nine to five jobs and they haven't seen a raise. They're struggling to get by. They can barely pay their rent. And Bernie Sanders is demonstrating that he's in touch with what Americans need.  So I love how each candidate took turns dunking on him, but I've got to hand it to Elizabeth Warren. It was really her who landed the knockout punch because what we saw here was just, it was masterful. And I think that if you are ever going to be in a debate, you have to watch this performance, watch what Elizabeth Warren did and pay close attention because this is how you expose someone who was a fraud. This is what she did when it comes to the sexual harassment allegations that came up to Mike Bloomberg. Several former employees have claimed that your company was a hostile workplace for women. When you were confronted about it, you admitted making sexually suggestive remarks, saying, quote, that's the way I grew up. In a lawsuit in the 1990s, according to the Washington Post, one former female employee alleged that you said, quote, I would do you in a second. Should Democrats expect better from their nominee? Let me say a couple of things if I can have my full minute in the quarter, thank you. I have no tolerance for the kind of behavior that the Me Too movement has exposed. And anybody that does anything wrong in our company, we investigate it and if it's appropriate, they're gone that day. But let me tell you what I do in my company and my foundation and in city government when I was there. In my foundation, the person that runs it's a woman, 70% of the people there are women. In my company, lots and lots of women have big responsibilities. They get paid exactly the same as men. And in city hall, the top person, my deputy mayor was a woman and 40% of our commissioners were women. I am very proud of the fact that about two weeks ago, we were awarded, we were voted the best place to work, second best place in America. If that doesn't say something about our employees and how happy they are, I don't know what does. Senator Warren, you've been critical of Mayor Bloomberg on this issue. Yes, I have and I hope you heard what his defense was. I've been nice to some women, doesn't cut it. The mayor has to stand on his record and what we need to know is exactly what's lurking out there. He has gotten some number of women, dozens, who knows, to sign non-disclosure agreements, both for sexual harassment and for gender discrimination in the workplace. So, Mr. Mayor, are you willing to release all of those women from those non-disclosure agreements so we can hear their side of the story? Have a very few non-disclosure agreements. How many is that? Let me finish. How many is that? None of them accused me of doing anything other than maybe they didn't like a joke I told. And let me just put, and let me put, there's agreements between two parties that wanted to keep it quiet, and that's up to them. They signed those agreements and we'll live with it. So wait, when you say it is up to, I just wanna be clear, some is how many? And when you say they signed them and they wanted them, if they wish now to speak out and tell their side of the story about what it is they allege, that's now okay with you. You're releasing them on television tonight? Senator, no. Is that right? Senator? Senator, tonight? Senator, the company and somebody else, in this case, the man or woman, or it could be more than that, they decided when they made an agreement that they wanted to keep it quiet for everybody's interest. They signed the agreements and that's what we're gonna live with. I'm sorry, no, the question is, are the women bound by being muzzled by you? And you could release them from that immediately, because understand, this is not just a question of the mayor's character, this is also a question about electability. We are not gonna be Donald Trump with a man who knows how many non-disclosure agreements and the drip, drip, drip of stories of women saying they have been harassed and discriminated against. That's not what we do as Democrats. Now, you can see that he was visibly uncomfortable because there was no way that he could respond to not look like a horrible human being right there. She had him backed into a corner and as I'm watching this, I'm loving and I like that she's dunking on Mike Bloomberg. But the question is, where was this Elizabeth Warren at the last three or four debates? Like, if we saw this, there's no way that she would be in the position that she's in currently in this overall race where she has a one in 100 chance of getting a majority of Pledge delegates and winning the nomination. That's according to 538. So I mean, if she brought this heat at previous debates and they didn't kind of just like fade into the background, she would be excelling right now. But I mean, getting back to Mike Bloomberg, that was just embarrassing. And I mentioned this in my main debate breakdown video, but I don't know who it was if it was a journalist or whatnot on Twitter who basically said that they were at an official Bloomberg campaign debate watching party and there were like visible groans and they really didn't like what was happening because Elizabeth Warren, you know, was kind of destroying him there. How do you respond? There's no way to respond, right? There's just no way to respond to that. Everything she said, there was just perfection. And I think that she probably prepared so much that she even anticipated responses and knew exactly what to say to hit them and thought through different scenarios of how he might answer this. And I mean, how can, the question is after seeing all of this, how can you still support Mike Bloomberg if you were backing him because of name recognition based off of those ads? The answer is I don't think you can. And look, even Amy Klobuchar dunked on Mike Bloomberg when the issue of why he hasn't released his tax returns came up and I thought that she handled this phenomenally. It just takes us a long time. I'm fortunately or fortunately, Can I comment on that? Fortunately, I make a lot of money and we do business all around the world and we are preparing it. The number of pages will probably be thousands of pages. I can't go to TurboTax, but I put out my tax return every year for 12 years in City Hall. We will put out this one. It tells everybody everything they need to know about every investments that I make and where the money goes. And the biggest item is all the money I give away and we list that every single donation I make and you can get that from our foundation anytime you want. Okay, I'm just looking at my husband in the front row that has to like do our taxes all the time. We probably could go to TurboTax and the point of this is I believe in transparency. I had a physical, by the way, it came out well. We might all be surprised if my blood pressure is lower than Mayor Pete's. That might really shock everyone out there. And I think you should release your records from your physical. Secondly, when it comes to tax returns, everyone up here has released their tax returns, Mayor. I think, and it is a major issue because the President of the United States has been hiding behind his tax returns. Even when courts order him to come forward with those tax returns. And I think, I don't care how much money anyone has. I think it's great you got a lot of money but I think you've got to come forward with your tax returns. So I don't usually say this but good job Amy Klobuchar. Now in case you missed it, he basically said that he's too rich to use TurboTax. Okay, and on top of that, he says that the biggest item in his taxes is all the money he gives away. So he's trying to cultivate goodwill with viewers except save it. You're not using that money for causes because you have this altruistic belief that your money can make the world a better place.  So save it. I don't care about your philanthropic endeavors. I couldn't care less. Okay, so the fact that you haven't released your tax returns yet when you knew you'd be running, it is a little embarrassing. And look, I don't necessarily care that much about tax returns. I think that his support for redlining, his lack of support for the minimum wage, which Bernie called out, his stop and frisk, his sexual harassment, that's all more persuasive. But I think that this is important in tying him to Donald Trump because he's trying to position himself as the person who is poised to beat Donald Trump. But what this portion of the debate proved was that how he's gonna beat Donald Trump when he's very Trumpian himself. He's a billionaire. They both haven't released their tax returns. I thought it was great. It's a good strategic move. Yeah, so I don't know what to say. If I'm like Bloomberg, I'm never showing up to a debate again. I'm bowing out of this race. That was too embarrassing. Just say face, drop out, leave your legacy intact. Although I don't know if that's possible after you've been exposed over the course of the last week. But I mean, within the first couple of minutes, he was already dead and they kept beating his dead carcass on that debate stage and it was just so glorious to watch. Like this is really what we needed. We needed all of the candidates to take turns dunking on this oligarch because shame on anyone who thinks that they can buy their way into the White House, that they can buy our democracy. It's just, it's grotesque. It's morally reprehensible. Like if you truly wanna live in a democracy, then you can't allow billionaires to do what Mike Bloomberg is doing. He's buying endorsements. He's buying democracies, buying television ads. It's just, it's disgusting. Who can compete with that? What normal working class American who wants to be president can compete with a billionaire oligarch like that. And if he's able to prove that this is a successful strategy, then who's gonna run next? Is it gonna be Mark Zuckerberg or Jeff Bezos or someone from the Walton family, Leon Cooperman? We can't allow this to happen. And so that's why the candidates needed to dismantle his campaign. And I think that they did as good as they possibly could have tonight. And let me say this, my expectations for Mike Bloomberg were very low, but he even underperformed my expectations. Like he did worse than I thought he possibly could have done. And even with my low expectations, regardless, I was still shocked at how bad this debate was for him. Horrible, zero charisma, no policy substance. He's only on that debate stage because he thinks he's entitled to the White House because he has lots and lots of money. And this debate showed that you can't necessarily buy an election so easily or at least if you're gonna try to, there's gonna be some heavy pushback. So kudos to all the candidates who took on this oligarch. So one thing that I will say about last night's debate is that Pete Buttigieg did not have a very good night. And I say that not because I think that he face planted, but because he needed a really strong, solid showing in order to hopefully overperform the polls in Nevada. He needed to communicate to communities of color that he's sensitive to their needs. He needed to demonstrate to voters that he's not this vapid corporate talking point, thumb pointing machine, and he didn't do that. And one thing that's also clear is that the other candidates increasingly, namely Bernie Sanders, Amy Klobuchar, are fed up with Pete Buttigieg. And he's just, there's something about him that listening to him speak, like I have this visceral reaction. He just gets on my nerves in a way that no other politician ever has. And I think it's because he's just so fake.  I mean, I don't know how else to put it. And even though ideologically speaking for what policies we know Pete Buttigieg supports, I think that I'd probably prefer Biden to him at this point because Pete Buttigieg is just, he's so hollow. Like he stands for nothing. And he's willing to take on whatever policy. He'd become a Republican like that if it means he'd be able to get power. So I mean, I just, I can't stand him. And I think that that's a sentiment for most normal people. And I try to ask individuals in my social circle who aren't as online as I am, who don't follow politics as closely about what they feel about Pete Buttigieg. And I kind of see the same thing.   Now he decided to be incredibly aggressive. He went after Bernie Sanders more than he usually does tonight. And all throughout the debate, as people are on that stage dunking on Mike Bloomberg, you have Pete Buttigieg's team putting out tweets about Bernie Sanders, attacking Bernie Sanders. And what he did on this stage was just disgusting. He basically equated Bernie Sanders and Mike Bloomberg and made it seem as if they're equally evil, albeit for different reasons. But what I loved is that Bernie Sanders put him in his place and it was so great to watch. We could wake up two weeks from today, the day after Super Tuesday and the only candidates left standing will be Bernie Sanders and Mike Bloomberg, the two most polarizing figures on this stage. And most Americans don't see where they fit if they've got to choose between a socialist who thinks that capitalism is the root of all evil and a billionaire who thinks that money ought to be the root of all power. Let's put forward somebody who actually lives and works in a middle-class neighborhood in an industrial Midwestern city. Let's put forward somebody who's actually a Democrat. Look, you have to choose between one candidate who wants to burn this party down and another candidate who wants to buy this party out. We can do better. Senator Sanders, are you polarizing? If speaking to the needs and the pain of a long-neglected working class is polarizing, I think you got the wrong word. What we are trying finally to do is to give a voice to people who after 45 years of work are not making a nickel more than they did 45 years ago. We are giving a voice to people who are saying we are sick and tired of billionaires like Mr. Bloomberg seeing huge expansions of their wealth while a half a million people sleep out on the street tonight. And that's what we are saying, Pete, is maybe it's a time for the working class of this country to have a little bit of power in Washington rather than your billionaire campaign contributors. All right, look, first of all, my campaign is fueled by hundreds of thousands of contributors, including 46 billionaires among the hundreds of thousands of contributors. And look, we've got to unite this country to deal with these issues. You're not the only one who cares about the working class. Most Americans believe we need to empower workers. As a matter of fact, you're the one who is at war with the Culinary Union right here in Las Vegas. We have the support that you have ever dreamed of. We have the support of unions all across this country. Yeah, but division I'm putting forward has the support of the American people. We can actually deliver health care without taking it away from anyone. We can actually empower workers and lift wages without further polarizing this country. And we can build a movement without having legions of our supporters online and in person. All right, Canada, thank you. I think it is important to... Democratic figures are your leaders alike.   This guy is just... He's insufferable. And that line about how we shouldn't have to choose between a candidate who wants to burn this party down and a candidate who wants to buy the party out. He was so proud of that line that immediately after he said it, his campaign tweeted out an image of his face with that quote, brilliant, so brilliant. Bernie wants to burn the party down so much that he's running to be the nominee and that he's literally part of Senate Democratic Party leadership. Like, who do you think you are? Like, you have the most popular politician in America and you're accusing him of being equally as bad as a billionaire oligarch who's racist, transphobic, sexist. Like, that's disgusting. That's morally reprehensible and it's so disingenuous that people are going to see that you're just attacking Bernie Sanders not because there's this ideological disagreement between you and him, but because you're an opportunist. You just want to take down Bernie because you know he's a threat. He's a threat. He said it on the stage. He knows that it could be Mike Bloomberg and Bernie Sanders remaining after Super Tuesday. So do we really want that to be the case? I don't want Mike Bloomberg to be the last one standing, but if we truly want to beat Donald Trump, don't you think that the most popular politician in America who you once claimed had courage should be the nominee? Someone who can excite young voters? I mean, I'm actually surprised that he was asked during this debate if he's out of touch with his own generation and the answer is yes. The answer is yes because he doesn't represent what young people want. He is painfully out of touch and if he were the nominee, he would get so thoroughly destroyed by Donald Trump it wouldn't even be funny. But everything he said about Bernie, I think that Bernie Sanders rebutted with the perfect response. So Bernie Sanders said what we're saying, Pete, is maybe it's time for the working class of this country to have a little bit more power in Washington rather than your billionaire campaign contributors.  Most Americans believe that there's too much money in politics. They believe that rich people and elites have too much influence on our elections. So every time Bernie Sanders calls that out, you have less and less legitimacy. So if you wanna step to Bernie Sanders, be prepared because you're gonna get punched metaphorically of course. Now a Buddha judge responded by saying our campaign is fueled by hundreds of thousands of contributors and Bernie chimed in and said including 46 billionaires. So good, so good. Now he also attacked Bernie Sanders because his supporters allegedly attacked the culinary union. Now I've talked about this on the show. I don't know what attacks they're talking about. Is it me and tweets? I don't know because I'm a very online person. So if the culinary union put out some type of anti-Medicare for all statement, I would have seen it likely and pushed back but they just claimed out of nowhere that Sanders supporters are harassing them. Okay, well if they're literally harassing you and doxing your members then I absolutely unequivocally condemn that but I have my doubts because it seems like when everyone in mainstream media and other Democrats are just suddenly condemning Bernie Bros. It just seems a little fake. It seems like it's a narrative. It seems like it's a coordinated attack to take down the front runner.  Boom, because guess what? Bernie has labor on his side and you have a lot of opportunists in this race. Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg who are trying to jump on this issue to not just demonize Bernie Sanders but to make it seem as if they care about labor, right? They care about unions, they care about workers but that's false. Not a single union has endorsed Mayor Pete's Medicare for All Who Wanted in spite of the fact that he claimed that it has majority support. No, it doesn't have majority support Medicare for All does. Has there been a single poll done asking voters about whether or not they favor Medicare for All Who Wanted unless he's suggesting public option but we want Medicare for All.  That is literally a lie because you're getting insurance. Like if you have insurance now it will be replaced. You're not losing something but for him to say this, it's just a bold-faced lie and this is why people don't like Mayor Pete. This is why millennials and Zoomers don't like Mayor Pete. It's because they see right through him. He stands for nothing and he's just trying to win by all means necessary even if it means demonizing someone who he said he supported. Now when it comes to the issue of healthcare I do have a clip for you because I've been saying for literally months now that when it comes to this portion of the debate even though Bernie Sanders I think has already persuaded Americans that Medicare for All is the way to go. He's really honed in on what he needs to say to convince people. One thing that's lacking and it's severely lacking is that Bernie Sanders never ties the industry, the private health insurance industry and big pharma and the contributions that they've given to the candidates on that stage. So if you explain why Pete Buttigieg is saying I don't support Medicare for All any longer now I support Medicare for All who wants it and you explain that he's been bought off that is going to be a powerful, powerful statement and it will register with every single voter and the rat will be exposed. Well, guess what? Bernie Sanders did that tonight and it was glorious. Somehow or another Canada can provide universal healthcare to all their people half the cost. UK can do it, France can do it, Germany could all of Europe can do it. Gee whiz, somehow or another we are the only major country on earth that can't do it. Why is that and I'll tell you why. It's because last year the healthcare industry made a hundred billion dollars in profits, pharmaceutical industry, top six companies, 69 billion dollars in profit and those CEOs are contributing to Pete's campaign and other campaigns up here. Let's clear this up. So maybe it is finally time that we set as a nation and not as enough the function of a rational healthcare system is not to make the pharmaceutical industry and the drug companies rich, it is to provide healthcare to all people as a human right, not a privilege, no premiums, no deductibles. That is how you do it. Whenever we have this conversation, I think that Bernie Sanders has already said everything that he needs to say and he's been so effective at fighting through the corporate propaganda, these lies about people losing their insurance and it costing a hundred trillion dollars, like all this bullshit, this is what's missing, this is what was missing. And now you have to say this every single time, but be more specific next time, a little bit of constructive criticism, bring up the specific contributions, bring up how these billionaires in the health insurance industry are directly financing, name them, name their contributors because that is how voters are going to see why they're saying the things that they're saying about Medicare for All, why Pete is specifically, but this includes Amy and Joe Biden as well, because we have private health insurance now, like we don't like it, we hate it in fact, we hate it.  I don't know what my deductible is, it's like 6,500, can't use that, okay? So yeah, this is what you need to do. And I just love this because Bernie Sanders during this debate, he trapped a rat and it was what we all wanted to see. And frankly, what we needed to see after weeks of this smug little fucker claiming that polls show he's the best to take on Donald Trump, that he won Iowa.  But unfortunately, after 2020, I'm sure he'll be back. I'm sure that in 2024 or 2028 he'll run again and that the Democratic Party establishment will never cease to shove him down our throats.  So at every single Democratic Party debate, there's a moment where Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg, they kind of go back and forth and they attack one another. And at that last debate, Amy Klobuchar kind of bodied Pete Buttigieg and this time he tried to pay her back and you can just see it on Amy's face. She was done with Pete Buttigieg. And I think that all of us are just irritated with him and fed up at this point because he's so fake, he represents nothing, he's willing to say and do anything to get elected. And I like, we're sick of it.  So for whatever reason, he decided to jump in in that moment where she was asked about, forgetting the Mexican president's name. And she was not happy with that. Take a look. You're staking your candidacy on your Washington experience. You're on the committee that oversees border security. You're on the committee that does trade. You're literally in part of the committee that's overseeing these things and we're not able to speak to literally the first thing about the politics of the country to ourself.  I said, I made an error. People sometimes forget names. I am the one that has, number one, has the experience based on passing over 100 bills. If I could respond, this was a pretty big allegation. He's basically saying that I don't have the experience to be president of the United States. I have passed over 100 bills as a lead Democrat since being in the U.S. Senate. I am the one, not you, that has won statewide in congressional district after congressional district. And I will say, when you tried in Indiana, Pete, to run, what happened to you? You lost by over 20 points to someone who later lost to my friend, Joe Donnelly. So don't tell me about experience. What unites us here is we want to win. And I think we should put a proven winner in charge of the ticket. This is a race for president. This is a race for president. If winning a race for Senate in Minnesota translated directly to becoming president, I would have grown up under the presidency of Walter Mondale. This is different. And the reason that I think we need to talk about Washington experience is that we should ask what that experience has led to. Experiences and certainly tenure is not always the same thing as judgment. We're going to talk about votes in the Senate in Washington. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about our major policy. Next question. Next question. Hello, hello, hello. Thank you.  That was tense. That was tense. And I would not want to be one of Amy's staffers after that debate. Yikes. Now, look, I'll say this. I don't believe that she forgot the Mexican president's name. She could have just said AMLO. But I don't think this is disqualifying. This isn't the biggest deal ever. Sure, it's a rookie mistake. It kind of shows you haven't done your research, especially when you're being interviewed by Telemundo and you have our southern neighbor who they're probably going to ask you about because we're going into the Nevada caucus and you're going to need to demonstrate that you know about Mexico and the United States' relationship we're at a minimum. You've done a little bit of research. Quick Google search. But it's still not disqualifying. And the way that Pete would have judged hammered her, like you could tell, she was really not having it. And before I get to my next clip, I just got to play this because Pete would have just started to speak Spanish. And her response, it was literally perfect. Thank you. You know. This country is your country as well. Thank you. That's amazing. This is the center of a shock. I wish everyone was as perfect as you, Pete. I love it. Amy Klobuchar, you know, she has that inner Karen. And if she just unleashed that Karen at every single debate, she would be unstoppable. Because we're all Karen's when we hear people to judge.  And I just like, I don't have this reaction usually to people because like, like I'm self aware, right? I know that my voice is relatively annoying and nasally. Like we all know that we're not perfect, but there's something like about people to judge that's so special. And I think it really stems from his fakeness.   And the clip that I have doesn't necessarily demonstrate that because as he's talking, you can kind of see her getting more and more angry.  Thank you. If you're going to run based on your record of voting in Washington, then you have to own those votes, especially when it comes to immigration. You voted to confirm the head of Customs and Border Protection under Trump, who was one of the architects of the family separation policy. You voted to make English the national language. Do you know the message that sends in as multilingual estate as Nevada to immigrants? You have been unusual among Democrats. I think the Democrat among all of the senators running for president, most likely to vote for Donald Trump's judges who we know are especially hostile to dreamers and to the rights of immigrants. Now, in South Bend, it was not always easy to stand up in a conservative place like Indiana on immigration. But we delivered. Yes, everyone was as perfect as you, Pete. Senator Salva-Shok. I wish everyone was as perfect as you, Pete. But let me tell you what it's like to be in the arena. And number one, do the math. If my friend Andrew Yang was up here, that's what he'd say. In fact, I have opposed and not supported two-thirds of the Trump judges. So get your numbers right. And I would add one more thing. I have been in the arena. Ted Kennedy, he had made a pretty big allegation against me again. And I think I should have a right to respond. I'm stating the facts because these are votes that you took. And those votes set you alone among the Democrats running for president. No other... Is it true or is it false that no other Democrat from the Senate running for president? First of all, it is what you've said about the judges are false. You are comparing me to two colleagues I'll care on this stage and you're forgetting one thing. I would say anybody who ran for president this cycle. Senator Harris, Senator Boecker saw through this. If you could let me finish since I've been in the arena. Ted Kennedy asked me to work on the first immigration bill. We were able with President Bush to at least get that bill to a vote. I'm sorry, but Senator Sanders actually opposed that bill and I worked on it. And if we had gotten that bill done, there would have been a path to citizenship for so many people. Then I worked on the 2013 bill. I'm actually so proud of the work I've done on immigration reform. And you know what? You have not been in the arena doing that work.  But I can tell you one thing.  They want a leader that has the heart for the immigrants of this country and that is me. You know, maybe leading a diverse city that was facing ruin doesn't sound like the arena to you. I'm used to senators telling mayors that senators are more important than mayors, but this is the arena too. You don't have to be in Washington to matter. Listen, I can't stand Pete, but I have to admit that he is kind of right here about her record.  You haven't put in the work. And you know, I like that, but it's kind of true for Amy as well. So like these exchanges, when they take place, it's difficult for me to root for either of them because I hate them both so much. But I think that over the course of the last month or so, Amy Klobuchar has become more favorable as she's attacked Pete Buttigieg more for me because I absolutely, I can't stand him. He's smug. He is an elitist. He's just, he's the worst, right? He's the worst. He's a rat. So and call me a Bernie bro.  Look, I like this portion of the debate because I want them to keep taking shots at each other because they know that one has to take the other down because they're both kind of eating into each other's leads, right? Back in the New Hampshire primary, they were neck and neck. So if one of them were out, the other could possibly have had enough votes to beat Bernie Sanders. But maybe that's not the case. Maybe, you know, that person who supported Amy Klobuchar after the last debate, maybe would have went for Elizabeth Warren or Joe Biden or even Bernie Sanders. We can't say for sure because voters aren't as ideological as we'd like to believe, even though they do care about policy. But yeah, these are both really fake politicians. And I think that one thing that showed us that revealed to us about them at this debate that was revealed to us, if you will, is that when they both go off script, they have no way of rebounding if they're attacked and they don't have like a specific line memorized to respond to a particular attack. Like they just, they flounder. They don't know how to respond. They flail. And you saw that at this debate. Like when Elizabeth Warren called out Mayor Pete's Medicare for all who wanted as raising prices, you could see he got like visibly flustered. His face turned red because he had no scripted response to that. So he can only sound smart if he's rehearsed a million times in front of a mirror and Amy Klobuchar is the same way.  Then she doesn't know what to do. She starts like, you know, trembling in anger at Pete Buddha judge. And I get it. He's irritating. But I mean, you have to, this is why you need to be more organic and just acknowledge that we're all human beings. Like you don't have to memorize everything. You don't have to come in with a script. Just talk and maybe a couple of times during the debate, you'll stumble stumble over your own words. Like I just did. Maybe a couple of times during the debate, you won't seem as articulate as you want to be because this is an exhausting event.  Nobody wants to see that. This isn't the 1990s anymore. We've moved past the rehearsed politicians. We are now in the Donald Trump era and just be a human being.  Sometimes, you know, you don't have the right words for a particular situation or argument. That's just human, right? You're not perfect. No politician is perfect. But showing us your flaws, I think that will humanize you more than they think. But they don't want that because they think it's just going to be perceived as weakness. But either way, like I've talked too long. What is it? We're at like eight minutes in. I've talked too long about Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar. And I'm going to end the video because I can only focus on them for so long before I start to lose my mind. So the question of Democratic socialism inevitably came up at last night's debate. And look, I've long maintained that I don't actually think this is going to hurt Bernie Sanders as bad as mainstream pundits believe it will or are saying that it will. Because I mean, it doesn't matter who the nominee is. It could be Joe Biden, Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg. Whoever wins, Donald Trump is going to say that they're socialist. This is what Republicans do. This is what they've always done. And John McCain back in 2008, can you guess what he called Obama? A socialist. So it doesn't matter who the nominee is. They're automatically going to be labeled a socialist because that's what Republicans do. But an advantage in actually identifying as a Democratic socialist is being able to control the narrative.  So if you actually are a socialist, you can control the narrative to an extent and take it back and say, well, sure, I'm a socialist, but this is what I mean by socialism. It's not that scary, is it? But tonight, I'm willing to say that Bernie Sanders being a Democratic socialist is actually going to be an advantage for him possibly because the way that he handled that tonight was so masterful, so brilliant that if he's successful here, if he could be the nominee and beat Donald Trump, like, we could possibly see other Democrats call themselves Democratic socialists going forward because this is how you do it. So he was asked about Democratic socialism. Watch the way that he handled this question like a boss. Senator Sanders, our latest NBC News Wall Street Journal poll released yesterday. Two-thirds of all voters said they were uncomfortable with a socialist candidate for president. What do you say to those voters, sir? What was the result of that poll? Who was winning? Questions to questions to you. Well, the question was that I was winning and I think by a fairly comfortable margin. Might mention that. But here is the point. Let's talk about Democratic socialism, not communism, Mr. Bloomberg. That's a cheap shot. Let's talk about Democratic. Let's talk about what goes on in countries like Denmark. Would Pete correctly point that out? They have a much higher quality of life in many respects than we do. What are we talking about? We are living in many ways in a socialist society right now. Problem is, as Dr. Martin Luther King reminded us, we have socialism for the very rich, rugged individualism for the poor. Wait a second. Let me finish. When Donald Trump gets $800 million in tax breaks and subsidies to build luxury condominiums, that's socialism for the rich. When we have to subsidize Wal-Mart's workers who are on Medicaid and food stamps, because the wealthiest family in America pays starvation wages that socialism for the rich. I believe in Democratic socialism for working people, not billionaires. Healthcare for all. Educational opportunity for all. We really don't admit that work for all. What a wonderful country we have. The best known socialist in the country happens to be a millionaire with three houses. What do I miss here? Well, you'll miss that I work in Washington. House water. That's the first problem. Live in Burlington. House two. That's good. And like thousands of other Ramathas, I do have a subacamp. Forgive me for that. Where is your home? Which tax haven in New York? New York City, thank you very much. And I pay all my taxes. And I'm happy to do it because I get something for it. And let me say, I thought the senator next to me was half right. I agree we should raise taxes on the... No. I disagree with the senator on the wealth tax, but I do agree with her that the rich aren't paying their fair share. We should raise taxes on the rich. I did that as mayor in New York City. I raise taxes. And if you take a look at my plans, the first thing I would do is try to convince Congress because they've got to do it. We can't just order it to roll back the tax cuts that the Trump administration put in through Congress.  They didn't vote for that dummy. Try to keep up. Like, what are you trying to say here?    I'm paraphrasing, of course, but this is a new position that he's taking for purposes of political expediency. So I don't believe him.  But when it comes to Bernie Sanders responding to that question, oh, that was brilliant. Like the look on his face, the command that he took, who's winning? Who's winning in that poll? Tell me. So you cite that poll, but you don't cite the most important part. We're in that same poll where people claim that they don't like socialism. Bernie's winning. It's Bernie. So you can say that that generic Democratic socialist label may be a disadvantage to a generic Democrat on these ballots that polls use, but when you put a face to the label and people know what he's talking about, it actually makes a difference. And the way that Bernie Sanders explained what he means by socialism, like if you argue against this, then you're not going to vote Democrat anyway. Like this is just things that good people support. He claimed we're living in a socialist society now. The problem is we have socialism for the rich and rugged individualism for the poor. Channeling Martin Luther King Jr. I mean, brilliant. Just brilliant. To bring up Dr. MLK Jr. When you're talking about socialism, that is really important. And it matters because people are familiar with MLK. Even Republicans claim that they love MLK Jr. Even though we know that that wouldn't be the case if he were alive today. But they all know who MLK Jr. is. So if you quote him and you explain that that's the vision that you have for America, it suddenly becomes a little bit less scary. And Bernie Sanders also said, I believe in democratic socialism for working people, not for billionaires, healthcare for all, educational opportunity for all, creating a government that works for all of us, not just Mr. Bloomberg. Exactly. So when you educate people and you explain that we effectively have socialism for large multinational corporations with all of these corporate subsidies, but you don't get any benefits. You don't get any handouts. Handouts for lack of a better word. I mean, we have to change that. We need democratic socialism that doesn't just benefit wealthy, but benefits everyone else. Like that's gonna land. And let's say, hypothetically speaking, it doesn't land. Young people don't care about socialism. People are enthusiastic about supporting a socialist who are millennials and zoomers. Why? Because capitalism is killing them. Literally, it's killing the planet. So you can't possibly say with a straight face that that's not gonna land in a general election. And anyone who concerned trolls about socialism and they will after this debate, like they're not serious about defeating Donald Trump. Like on that debate stage tonight, what we saw was that there's one person who is strong enough to take on Donald Trump who's popular enough who has an answer for everything who can actually beat Donald Trump. And that's Bernie Sanders. Look, Elizabeth Warren had a great performance and I think that she could hold her own on debate stage. But if you really want to win, I mean, Bernie Sanders demonstrated tonight why he's the best person and why he's the front runner. What he's saying is resonating with voters. That's why he's winning. Now, the last thing that I want to touch on there is Bloomberg tried to attack him and said that, you know, he's the socialist with three houses. And he tweeted about this as well because he's really proud of that attack. But Bernie Sanders came in with just a death blow. And he said, which tax haven do you have as your home? Bernie's a beast. That was absolutely brilliant. So kudos to Bernie Sanders. That was phenomenal. And if you're worried about socialism hurting Bernie Sanders and, you know, you are considering voting for Joe Biden only because you think he's more electable because he doesn't have that socialist baggage, if you will, show them that debate clip. You don't have to show them my video, but just show them that debate clip of Bernie Sanders. And if they have time, if they're interested in learning more back in 2019, Bernie Sanders did. I think it was like a 45 minute long speech where he talked about democratic socialism. And it was probably one of the best speeches that I've ever heard. If not one of the best and we have to educate people and let them know that if we truly want to win, we need someone who represents the people and democratic socialists are not Bernie Sanders has all the right policies. And if you educate them about those policies and what he means when he says he's a democratic socialist, it's no longer scary. You know, it's no longer something that seems foreign or communist. They just get it because what he's saying makes sense. It's going to land. It's going to resonate with people and it already is. All right, folks. This video is going to be dark. We are going to take some time to catastrophize a little bit. And usually I try to stay away from doing things like that. I don't want to, you know, contribute any more toxicity to this primary process than is already out there. Nonetheless, I do believe it's important for us to kind of consider certain scenarios, you know, dwelling on this brokered convention. I worry about talking about it too much because I don't want you to take away from these videos that, you know, the situation is hopeless and we can't win. Therefore, you might as well check out and not canvas and phone bank and donate to Bernie Sanders. That's not what I want you to take away from this video. I want us to understand that we're going up against a political behemoth and this might literally be our last attempt to save democracy. So if you're in a good mood, please do not watch this video. Do yourself the favor, but I do think it's important that we indulge a little bit here. After that debate in Nevada, when I saw every single candidate on that stage, with the exception of Bernie Sanders, say that they're open to superdelegates stealing the nomination away from the person with the most votes. It literally gave me this sick feeling in my stomach. Like I felt physically nauseous from that. And since that debate, I've been haunted by that. Like this thought in the back of my mind thinking, do we even live in a democracy? And this entire election really is going to put our democracy to the test. And it honestly may not survive. It may not survive because we have a substantial portion in the Democratic Party openly suggesting that maybe it's a good idea that we have a brokered convention in order to allow superdelegates to steal the nomination away from Bernie Sanders. And everyone on that debate stage was basically jockeying for it to be them, including Elizabeth Warren. And we need to talk about this so we can maybe plan some scenarios, protests and whatnot. But it doesn't just seem like this is something that they're considering as a possibility in order to defeat Bernie Sanders now with the insurmountable lead that he's going to have after Super Tuesday. This is the strategy now. The strategy, I repeat, is to steal it from Bernie Sanders because that's the only way that they can stop him. There's an article in Politico that says that that is Mike Bloomberg's key strategy. And on top of that, other Democrats also have this strategy. So understand, they know they can't get enough pledged delegates to surpass Bernie, but they can still be the nominee. They will still remain in the race in hopes of pulling their delegates and just taking it away from Bernie Sanders. I mean, I just want to take a moment to think about how morally repugnant that is. Like, let me just explain my position, like my mom, for example. She's someone who was never politically engaged. She registered for the first time in her life at 65 years old to vote for Bernie Sanders in 2016. Just the other day, she donated $15 to Bernie Sanders. This is the first donation that she's ever given to a political candidate in her entire life. So to take that away from someone, and she's just one of many people, but I'm sure that a lot of people have been brought into the process, namely young people, but to take that away from them, for them to get so excited, knock on doors, donate to a candidate that they believe in, and then you just snatch that away from them like that, there's just no going back. There's no recovering from that. And it's just interesting and hypocritical how nobody's talking about the popular vote anymore. We had Elizabeth Warren, people to judge Democrats everywhere, screeching at the top of their lungs about how important it was that we abolished the Electoral College, because I mean, the person with the most votes wins, right? That's the way it should be. And now they're saying, you know what? Party bosses, they should have a say in stealing the nomination away from Bernie Sanders, if maybe I can benefit from that. It truly is morally reprehensible. And I want to get to this Politico article by David Siders because he's going to explain a little bit of the details of my Bloomberg strategy, how he's currently lobbying party bosses to take the nomination away from Bernie and give it to him. He writes, Mike Bloomberg is privately lobbying Democratic Party officials and donors allied with his moderate opponents to flip their allegiance to him and block Bernie Sanders in the event of a brokered national convention. The effort largely executed by Bloomberg's senior state-level advisors in recent weeks attempts to prime Bloomberg for a second ballot contest at the Democratic National Convention in July by poaching supporters of Joe Biden and other moderate Democrats according to two different strategists familiar with the talks and unaffiliated with Bloomberg. The outreach has involved meetings and telephone calls with supporters of Biden and Pete Buttigieg, as well as uncommitted DNC members in Virginia, Texas, Florida, Oklahoma and North Carolina, according to one of the strategists who participated in meetings and calls with Sanders emergence as the frontrunner in the presidential primary. Democrats in those states have recently raised the prospect that the Democratic Socialist could be a top-of-the-ticket liability. There's a whole operation going on, which is genius, said one of the strategists who is unaffiliated with any campaign and it's going to help them win on the second ballot. They're telling them that's their strategy. Other candidates have quietly been in contact for months with superdelegates. The DNC members, members of Congress and other party officials who could not vote on the first ballot at a contested national convention, but none have showcased it as a feature of their campaign as Hillary Clinton did in 2016. If Sanders secures a plurality of delegates but loses the nomination on a second ballot, many moderate and progressive Democrats like predict the National Convention in Milwaukee would devolve into chaos. Following the debate, former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villagai Rosa, who has endorsed Mike Bloomberg has chaired the 2012 Democratic National Convention, said a second ballot will likely be required this year. So let's just get one thing straight. Anyone who claims that the nomination should be taken from Bernie Sanders and given to someone else, they're lying to you if electability is the justification for that because do you honestly believe that if you steal this nomination away from the most popular politician in America that we're going to fall in line and support anyone else even if it's Elizabeth Warren? You are handing Donald Trump a landslide and I've said this before that is the least of your concerns because unquestionably, Trump cruises to reelection. But on top of that, the Democratic Party is going to self-destruct, blow itself to pieces and afterwards they're going to try to pick up the scraps and it can't survive this. The party as an institution would die. No institution can remain legitimate after something like that. Once you take it that far, then nobody believes in the process. Let me tell you this. I will never ever vote for another Democrat ever again if this were to be the case. I promise you that because I can't support an institution that doesn't believe in democracy. Like sometimes in politics, you're going to win. Sometimes you're going to lose. But if the fight's fair, I can accept that, right? If we did everything in our power to get Bernie elected, but Biden won fair and square, man, that would be really disappointed disappointing, but at least it was a fair fight.  And guess what? Like back in 2016, when all of these Democratic Party loyalists were brow-beating us because we wouldn't come out to support Hillary Clinton after the DNC rigged the primary against Bernie Sanders, I still voted and Democrats didn't like that I voted for Jill Stein. But guess what? I also voted for Democrats down the ticket, right? I voted in house races for Democrats and local races for Democrats. But guess what? When I say I'll never vote for a Democrat again, I mean never again. So my Senator Jeff Merkley is up for reelection. If Democrats deal the nomination, not even Jeff Merkley gets my vote. I don't vote Democrat ever again because this institution is illegitimate and I cannot lend my support to that illegitimate institution. And look, I just want people in the comments section if you're still watching. What would you do if the nomination is taken from you? Would you support the nominee? Just we'll see this because I have a feeling that maybe this video gets attention from other people and they're going to say, look at this Bernie, bro. He's Bernie or bust. It's not just me, it's everyone.  We're not going to give you permission to rule to be in control of government when you just told all of us that our voices don't matter. No, not at all. And guess what? My audience may only be 300,000, but there's another 300,000 with David Dole. Another 800,000 with Kyle Kalinsky. Another 200,000 with Tim Black. All of us collectively in indie media as a bloc will form a boycott of this entire election and maybe that's not enough. But understand, you're going to lose if you do this.   Non-politically savvy individuals won't stand for that. And I can already envision this situation where they steal it from Bernie and give it to Elizabeth Warren and then they browbeat us because, oh, this is the most left-leaning Democratic nominee in decades. No, absolutely not. And look, I was already burning your bust in 2016. I've been burning your bust in 2020, but I'm someone who kind of likes to hold my cards close to my chest because I wanted to tell everyone to vote balloon no matter who once Bernie becomes the nominee. But understand, nobody gets my vote unless it's Bernie Sanders. And on top of that, I take that a step further. If the nomination is stolen, I don't vote Democrat anymore.   So the party will be just demolished. And even David Pluth said this on MSNBC. The party can't recover from this. They can't recover from this. So it doesn't matter if you browbeat people and fear monger about Donald Trump. Nothing will matter.  But understand that they know this. This is the strategy.  That's how morally bankrupt the Democratic Party is, including Elizabeth Warren. Now on the note of Elizabeth Warren, you know, she had a surrogate appear on an episode of The Hills TV rising with Sager and Crystal Ball. Just they're amazing. And Adam Green, head of the PCCC, defended what Warren said about allowing superdelegates to steal the nomination away from Bernie Sanders. And he didn't just defend that indefensible position, but he went out of his way to lie about what that would entail and lie about Bernie Sanders' supporters in the process. Take a look. Elizabeth Warren didn't commit to backing the candidate with the most amount of delegates as the eventual nominee. Is that mean that she's hoping to be a consensus candidate at a contested convention? I wouldn't read that much into it, but I kind of find, I don't really find this conversation terribly interesting, but a couple of things are worth noting. One, you know, as with the rules in Iowa that landed in a weird place, we're pretty much written by the Sanders people on the reform commission, right? So it's a little bit weird for anybody to be contesting that. Second, it's a progressive principle to have ranked-choice voting. You know, I don't think it is acceptable to have a Democratic nominee who only has the support of 25, 30% of Democrats. You know, we believe in ranked-choice voting. We ideally would pass it nationally. And I think Bernie Sanders at the only point last night was that super-delegates should not be voting, but he actually didn't even say that delegates as a whole should not be voting. So look, I think this will be part of the overall effectiveness argument that will continue to be there with Bernie Sanders than that Elizabeth Warren started last night.  She is the real deal progressive. And when she touches things, they don't fall apart. They usually get better, like she did with the CFPB. She didn't fight for the same things for 30 years and lose. She came to Washington with one core priority, the CFPB, passed a crown jewel of Wall Street reform to law, had many other victories. I think that will extend to the arguments in the days ahead. But Adam, shouldn't the candidate with the most votes end up being the nominee? I mean, Democrats have been talking for four years about the popular vote and how the will of the people should decide. Isn't it going to destroy the party essentially? If you have Bernie Sanders coming to the convention with a plurality of delegates and then it gets taken from him by super-delegates on the second ballot.  Yeah, let's not feed conspiracy people online, Crystal. How is that a conspiracy? Your candidate admitted to it on the debate stage last night, as do all the others. No, that's a preemptive stirring up the pie. The person with the most support should be the nominee. It is not okay to win the Democratic nomination on a technicality, which is what some people are trying to do. In a six-way race, if somebody is blocked at 20, 25, 27 percent, that you cannot argue that they are the choice of Democrat. It has to be a ranked-choice voting principle where the Democratic Party can look as a whole and say, who's our best bet to win? Who can we all unify around? I don't see how you can defend the proposition. If at the end of the day it is true that only 25 percent, 27 percent of Democratic voters want one person as the nominee, they should be the nominee. That just seems a little bit weird to me. I don't think it seems a little bit weird to say that a candidate who did even more poorly than that should be the nominee, though. Yeah, again, ranked-choice voting. Do you or do you not agree with ranked-choice voting?  It's defeating Bernie Sanders. And look, if you are donating to the PCCC, stop giving them your money. Is that someone who you support? Someone like that who's literally lying? He called Crystal Ball conspiratorial when Elizabeth Warren admitted she'd be okay with super delegate stealing the nomination.  And you say that with a straight face. And he said, because with the rules in Iowa that landed in a weird place, were pretty much written by the Sanders people at the DNC Unity Reform Commission. So it's a little weird for anybody to be contesting that. So basically saying this super delegate, you know, rules that are currently in place, this was all instituted by Sanders people at the DNC Unity Reform Commission.  That's not true. They fought to eliminate super delegates and they had to bargain with Clintonistas who wanted to keep this undemocratic process intact. So having them vote on the second ballot, and not the first, was the compromise.  And on top of that, he said it's a progressive principle to have ranked choice voting. We don't have ranked choice voting. Are you ranking your choices?   So how can you say that with a straight face and you're the co-founder of the PCCC? Unbelievable. Unbelievable.   Unreal. Now on top of that, he claims that getting the most votes and winning outright is winning on a technicality.   They have nobody to blame but themselves and these people are disgusting. They have no morals. They are immoral at worst. Immoral at best. And I just, I can't stand them. I can't stand them. Good on Crystal Ball for pushing back. I give her credit because I wouldn't have been that polite. You could tell she was biting her tongue, but I mean to hear that type of bullshit to not only defend the indefensible but then blame people who are trying to fight to make the Democratic Party more democratic. Small D democracy is what I'm talking about. It's just, it's mind-boggling. It is mind-boggling. Democracy in America is hanging on by a thread and people are cheering on its death all so they can beat Bernie Sanders. Guess what?  That party cannot survive as an institution. That party collapses and I will actively campaign to get people to not vote because you can't participate in a process that just flies in the face of democracy. You have to boycott this election. You have no choice. That's the only moral option. This isn't just about the next four years with Donald Trump. This is about the next 100 years with our democracy.  So I don't know what else to say about this. The fact that we have to contemplate what would happen if our votes just get stolen from us. It shouldn't be the case.    You're not going to be able to steal this from us. We're not going to take this lying down. We will not accept you stealing it from us with whatever justification that you have. We won't take that.  I promise you that. So I don't care who it is. Michael Bloomberg. Elizabeth Warren. You can steal this nomination and give it to AOC. If Bernie gets the most votes he becomes the nominee.  And then the person closest to him gets 28.5%. More votes, we win. We walk in and we walk out as the nominee. Period, end of story. We're not negotiating here. So I want everyone to be as loud as they possibly can in telling Tom Perez, in telling the DNC, in telling Elizabeth Warren, in telling Pete with a judge that if you steal this from us you lose.  And it's not just that we don't vote for the top of the ticket. We don't vote in local races. We don't vote in Senate and House races. You lose the House. You lose the Senate. You lose the White House.  So choose wisely. Think about how badly you want to defeat Bernie Sanders because you truly want to risk everything. Risk destroying the party to defeat Bernie Sanders.    So in a recent debate, Elizabeth Warren claimed on stage with a straight face that it was only her and Amy Klobuchar that didn't have super PACs. Every other candidate was corrupted by dark money and they had super PACs. Now, I would agree with you. If you chose to exclude Bernie Sanders from that conversation, but she didn't. She was implying that Bernie Sanders, like Pete Buttigieg, like Joe Biden, is also corrupt. Now, it's interesting because I mean, I guess you could technically say that's true if you qualify organizations that are grassroots funded like our revolution as a super PAC. Elizabeth Warren, judging by this picture, didn't really have a problem with our revolution not too long ago, but now that it's politically expedient to pretend like it's a super PAC, like some Wall Street funded group like Pete Buttigieg has, now she's choosing to attack Bernie Sanders for it. And the so-called super PACs that Bernie Sanders has, we're talking about the sunrise movement. We're talking about National Nurses United. We're talking about our revolution. These are grassroots funded organizations that have money because small dollar donations come into them. These are not dark money funded groups created to prop up a candidate to help them get more donations than the federal contribution. Like if I'm a billionaire, right? If I want to donate more than that 2700 or 2800 maximum to Joe Biden, the only way that I can do that is to donate to one of his super PACs because then I can give them $100,000 and that's one way to get around campaign finance laws. So if you're honestly saying with a straight face that our revolution and the sunrise movement is akin to those dark money groups that's, you know, buy television ads and spend money on behalf of the candidate, you're just being so disingenuous. You cannot characterize that as a lie because that's basically what it is. I mean, again, on a technicality, you could say, you know what, sure, we can qualify that as super PACs, but still, even if you said that, you would have to disaggregate them. You'd have to explain there's kind of a big difference between our revolution and Joe Biden's super PAC. Unite the country. Like these are very different things. But Elizabeth Warren is a political opportunist. She's a snake. And of course, she's lying about Bernie Sanders and she thought that that would be one way to get one over on him. And it's not just Elizabeth Warren to be fair. Pete Buttigieg claims that Bernie Sanders is bankrolled by nine quote unquote dark money groups. And it's funny because the sunrise movement responded saying, say her name, Pete Buttigieg, we dare you. And look, as Jane pointed out, these are the groups who Buttigieg claims are dark money groups. National Nurses United, the Sunrise Movement, Dream Defenders, Center for Popular Democracy, People's Action, Our Revolution, Make the Road Action, Movement Voter Project, Indivisible Project. These are all grassroots funded organizations. Right. And if you're going to say that these are comparable or even in the same category as Joe Biden super PAC or your super PAC Pete, which is funded by Wall Street contributors, I mean, you're just, you're a sleazeball. That's all there is to say about it. Now, Elizabeth Warren, she has the endorsement of the P triple C.  Like, do you understand the double standard here? It's like nobody cares about principles or policy. They just want to get one over on the other candidates and lie. And since Bernie Sanders is the front runner, you see all of these people sinking their claws in their desperate to say anything about Bernie Sanders. All these Bernie rows are harassing members of the culinary union. Oh wait, the culinary unions members, not the leadership, but the members actually support Bernie Sanders and Medicare for All. Nobody brings that up. Like this is pure desperation. And I do want to read this article from real sludge who sheds a little bit of light about these organizations that Elizabeth Warren claims are super PACs supporting Bernie Sanders. Quote, while that statement may be technically true, not all super PACs are the same. In fact, there's a wide chasm between super PACs backing three Democratic candidates each funded with six-figure donations from wealthy finance executives and the super PACs backing Sanders which consist of a nurses unions PAC and a coalition of progressive organizations that represent over 2 million working class people of color. It's ridiculous to lump groups like Sunrise and with billionaire funded super PACs, Stephen O'Hanlon, communications director of the youth led climate group, The Sunrise Movement, which is backing Sanders told sludge, unlike PACs set up by billionaires to blanket the airwaves with attack ads, Sunrise and other groups were working to represent the working people, young people and people of color. The Sanders campaign declined to comment for this story. In a Meet the Press interview with Chuck Todd on February 9th, Sanders reiterated that he does not want help from outside groups but he was clear about who makes up these groups. Some of them are nurses, some of them are immigration activists and some of them are civil rights activists, Sanders said. Todd asked if Sanders would accept help since it's already out there and the candidate answered, it's legal, what can I do? People have the right to participate in the political process. Now again, let's accept that these groups are super PACs, technically, right? But guess what? Justice Democrats is a super PAC. Elizabeth Warren endorsed a justice Democrat in this cycle. Wolf PAC is a super PAC, right? These are all super PACs. So there's a real distinction. There's a nuanced conversation to be had here. These are not organizations that propped up specifically for the purpose of allowing one candidate to get around campaign finance laws and allow their wealthy donors to exceed the maximum contribution by donating to them. These are organizations that existed before this election or popped up because they were catalyzed and coalesced around a single issue like Sunrise, like Dream Defenders, right? So it's just so disingenuous for Elizabeth Warren to try to make it seem as if Bernie Sanders, like Pete Buttigieg and Joe Biden, is just as corrupt because look at all these dark money groups. It's beyond pathetic that she's stooping to this, right? Considering she has the support of similar groups like the PEECCC, like she has supported our revolution and endorsed justice Democrats candidates, right? So it's just, it's so phony. But this is why I wanted to talk about this story, right? Because the person who's been the loudest about how bad super PACs are, Elizabeth Warren, will guess what she has. She's got a brand new shiny super PAC that is bankrolling her.  Listen, for those of you not keeping score, that's two huge issues that Elizabeth Warren flipped on within the span of a week. She flipped on the popular vote because after three years of, you know, screaming about the need to abolish the electoral college in favor of just allowing the winner of the popular vote to become the president, which I agree with, by the way.  I'm actually okay with super delegates stealing the nomination away from Bernie Sanders, the person who will likely have the most votes. Now, I'm paraphrasing, but that's essentially what she meant. And now, after, what, one, two weeks of criticizing everyone, including Bernie Sanders for having super PACs, what does she do? She gets to super PAC herself. This is why Elizabeth Warren can't be trusted. Her political instincts are just horrible. At every chance she gets, it's like she jumps at the opportunity to embarrass herself. And I'll give her credit. She performed exceptionally well at that last debate.  And if you want to beat Donald Trump, you can't, you know, roll the dice with someone who may show up to a debate half asleep or might knock it out of the park. And the consistency and Elizabeth Warren has shown and proven that she's an opportunist more than anything. Right. She makes political calculations that are detrimental to her career, but she just doesn't really care about the optics. She doesn't care that she had the respect and support from progressives. But then she squandered that and is doing nothing to win it back. Right. So it's just embarrassing. And the worst part about all of this is that in order to defend her newfangled super PAC, she's trying to hide behind her gender, weaponize identity politics to suggest that, well, you know, since the men have one, I think I should have a super PAC too. This is truly cringeworthy. Take a look. Do you want the super PAC supporting you to stand down? So look, the first day I got in this race over a year ago, I said, I hope every presidential candidate who comes in will agree no super PACs for any of this. I renewed that call dozens of times, and I couldn't get a single Democrat to go along with me. Finally, we reached the point a few weeks ago where all of the men who are still in this race and on the debate stage all had either super PACs or they were multi-billionaires and could just, you know, rummage around in their sock doors and find enough money to be able to fund a campaign. And the only people who didn't have them were the two women. And at that point, there were some women around the country and said, you know, that's just not right. So here's where I stand. All the candidates want to get rid of super PACs. Count me in. I'll lead the charge. But that's how it has to be. It can't be the case that a bunch of people keep them and only one or two don't. Wow.  So basically, you know, her argument is, I'm happy to get rid of my super PAC, but everyone else has to do it first. So let's, you know, extrapolate a little bit and, you know, envision a situation in the general election where Elizabeth Warren starts taking money from Wall Street. She starts taking money from corporate PACs in the military industrial complex. Can you imagine her excuse? Well, Trump's doing it. So if Trump stops, then I'll stop too. But I'm not going to unilaterally disarm. As Pete likes to say, I'm not going to run this race with one hand, you know, tied behind my back.  It shows you're desperate. And when that desperation starts to creep in, that's when all of the principles go away. Unbelievable. And yet she is criticizing Bernie Sanders. Oh no, he has a super PAC. He's funded by dark money groups and he's basically as corrupt as Joe Biden people to judge, you know, it is what it is. Elizabeth Warren is such a bad candidate. She is such a bad candidate. And it almost makes me sad that she chose to run for president in 2020. Like I always wanted her to be president before Bernie Sanders ran in 2016. But like just seeing her run in action it kind of ruined it, right? Like I was trying to put aside her betrayal in 2016 because we need as much allies as we can get, but we've got to face the music. She's just not an ally. She's not, you know, willing to be there for progressives 100% of the time. Sometimes she votes with Donald Trump. Sometimes she'll, you know, stop the TPP or try to stop the TPP or whatever. But I mean like at the end of the day, Elizabeth Warren, she just is, she's not great. You know, I think that it's probably still accurate to say that she's the second most progressive senator in America. But the distance between her and Bernie Sanders is just miles. It's miles. Now, since Bernie Sanders doesn't have a super PAC that runs ads and, you know, has unlimited Wall Street contributions being funneled to it. And now Elizabeth Warren does.  I am proud to be the only non-billionaire in this race without a super PAC spending millions of dollars to support me. And there you have it. Elizabeth Warren has nothing to say because she has a super PAC now. You've got a super PAC, so what are you going to do? If you want to argue that our revolution and the sunrise movement organizations that you'd be happy to have the endorsements of our super PACs, then make that case. But don't just tell us half truths, right? Don't give us half the story. Don't be disingenuous and say, well, he has a super PAC. Explain what you mean. Do you honestly believe that dream defenders and our revolution and the sunrise movement are comparable to the Wall Street funded super PACs that back people like Pete Buttigieg and Joe Biden? If you want to make that case and have that position, fine. But defend it. Don't lie.  Just come out and say, I think that these groups are super PACs. A super PAC is a super PAC and they're technically super PACs so they're super PACs. Fine, great. But she's not telling you that because once she says, well, what I'm referring to really is the sunrise movement. Then people see through her lie, right? They see through it and they say, oh, isn't sunrise movement the organization that you really wanted to get the endorsement of? I mean, even Pete Buttigieg, as he criticizes organizations like the sunrise movement, they explain how he was being really nice to them trying to butter them up to get that endorsement. But they're a principled organization and I truly believe they did this objective analysis of all the different climate change proposals and Bernie's was simply the best. But now, since they're not endorsing Pete Buttigieg or Elizabeth Warren, that's a super PAC and that's corrupting of Bernie Sanders.  I mean, not even close, right? It's Mike Bloomberg, Pete Buttigieg, Joe Biden, they're the worst by far. However, Elizabeth Warren, like, just seeing where she was at the start of this race and how far she's fallen, it really is just depressing and sad.  No heroes in politics. Anyone is more than capable of letting you down in the event an opportunity arises where, you know, that's the best course of action to advance their careers. Listen, I try my best to be a good little representative of the left and, you know, I try to avoid talking about getting people fired and cancel culture because I genuinely like, that's not the person who I am, but I've got to ask in spite of that, in spite of everything I just said, why does Chris Matthews still have a job at MSNBC?  That's how bad it is. Like, he's so bad. He is the Janine Pirro of MSNBC. He's an embarrassment.  So it's funny because, you know, Ben Shapiro responded to this charge on the left that Bloomberg is trying to buy this election by tweeting OMG, Bloomberg is buying the election. Say people whose chief candidates want to hand people health care college educations and housing they're not paying for. Now, this is a pretty standard right wing talking point. They call social safety net programs vote buying.  It's disingenuous. We're paying taxes. So what we're saying is we want those tax dollars to benefit us and not the billionaires who fund Ben Shapiro's program and the Daily Wire, right? So it's not vote buying, of course, but I mean you expect that type of disingenuity from right wing dipshits like Ben Shapiro except I tweeted this out and was proven right so fast. This is genuinely one of the dumbest tags I've ever seen on this website, but still how long until CNN and MSNBC pundits start saying this if it comes down to a two-way race between Bernie and Bloomberg? The answer is immediately. It doesn't even have to come down to a two-way race between Bloomberg and Bernie. Someone on MSNBC Chris Matthews is already saying that using that same dumb argument that Ben Shapiro is using. I was proven right in a day and I gave them like a month after Super Tuesday to start making this claim. But like that. See how quickly they use right wing talking points to try to do anything in their power to stop a left wing populist candidate? It's incredible. So Jordan Sheridan tweeted out Chris Matthews with Nina Turner just said, Bernie Sanders is buying the election like Bloomberg. His rationale? Sanders proposing cancelling student debt, free public college is the same as Bloomberg spending $350 million on television ads. Oh and then he plays dumb when Nina Turner explains how Mike Bloomberg is buying the election. Do you mean that he's buying votes? Like what are we talking about here? Is he literally paying people up? Oh my god I don't know what to say about this. Just watch. He's doing just spreading. You mean buying using money to get votes? Is that what you're saying? Are you saying using money to get votes? $350 million worth of ads, his own money. Okay just to make your definition. Is buying election using money to get votes? He is using You know what I'm saying? I'm not going down that road. What I am saying is that he's not building a movement. He's not talking to the people. He's just throwing his money out there. Okay if I'm in college right now and I had student loans, they got me through college. If somebody came along and said I'm going to pay up all your student loans and what else and if you're going to public university I'm paying all your tuition. Is that buying votes? Now when you say that Mike Bloomberg is buying the election are you honestly telling me that he's paying people what $150 a pop to vote for him? Where's your evidence of that? Missy? I don't know what to say. Of course that's not what we're saying.  How many millions of people tune into Chris Matthews every single night? If you tune in you're going to walk away dumber than when you first started watching and he's a news anchor. News is supposed to inform voters. Like going into the voting booth you're supposed to know more theoretically because you're supposed to be a more informed enlightened voter.  How can you say that? And he's saying that offering college is tantamount to buying votes channeling Ben Shapiro because that makes sense. See it's not buying votes if you get elected and you give tax cuts to the rich people like Chris Matthews but it is buying votes if you do anything for the peasants. Do you see the logic here? Like it honestly doesn't make sense to me why they keep someone on who's so genuinely idiotic. Like and I'm not saying that to be petty and insult him. I'm saying I really believe he has a low IQ. No I don't believe it. I know it. Listen to him. Watch his show for like an hour. Don't.   Like that's how bad it is. That's how low the bar is set by Chris Matthews who literally believes that if Bernie's elected there's gonna be executions in Central Park.  I hate Donald Trump with every fiber of my being. Did I believe that there would be executions in Central Park with Donald Trump? No. There's executions abroad with regard to militarism. Right? He's locking babies in cages. But there was no indication that we'd start killing Americans in the streets of America if Donald Trump were elected president. Like if you become so hyperbolic people take you less seriously. And the fact that this moron is on MSNBC five days a week it's just so bad for democracy. Like MSNBC is a cancer in our society and that's not to say that Fox News is any better because I think they're objectively worse. But in terms of just this election cycle and how unfair all of these cable news networks are to Bernie Sanders I mean objectively speaking Fox News has been more fair to Bernie Sanders. Objectively speaking MSNBC has been the worst. Excluding Chris Hayes maybe. I just I don't understand how someone who embarrasses the network like that is allowed to stay on air. I would not allow him to produce a video and upload it on the Humanist Report YouTube channel. That's how much of a danger I think he is. Because if you're not informing people then you shouldn't talk about politics. And I'm not talking about you need to give everyone a history lesson in every single video. I mean like if you just are at least minimally competent. You have even a minimal amount of insight to offer. That's better than what Chris Matthews is offering.  I just I don't know. I don't know. So this is genuinely embarrassing and you'd think that he'd become a little bit more self aware because he keeps reminding himself in hot water. People keep making fun of him. Like Michael Moore was on and made fun of him about that Central Park Execution comment and he kind of laughed it off but I mean then do better. I don't know what else to say. Do better.  Like it doesn't make sense to me that you keep saying this. Like if I put my foot in my mouth in a video I'm being extra cautious for at least a couple of months and we've all done it before. We're all human beings right. Nobody's perfect.  Just try to do better. But I mean he can't help himself.  Politics can be so exhausting sometimes. It really can be. And I anticipated this with the 2020 election. But no matter how much you try to anticipate just how tiresome this is going to be it's always 10 times worse than you expected. Hello everyone I'm here with Chris Armitage running in Washington State's fifth congressional district. He is challenging a Republican named Kathy Mc Morrison Rogers and he is running a fantastic campaign and he is poised to be the Democratic nominee. Chris thank you for coming on the program. Happy to be here. Thanks for having me Mike. So you are running in this very grassroots progressive campaign. You receive the endorsements of brand new Congress. Your local our revolution chapter.  But I want you to talk about the dynamic of this race because this is a Republican seat that you're fighting for and it seems like there's not much interest from other Democrats. You're currently the only one running. So it seems as if you are the presumptive Democratic party nominee for this seat. But it's not a foregone conclusion because you are grassroots candidate. Can you talk a little bit about why you decided to run and the dynamics of this race. Sure and I want to mention too we actually got the National Law Revolution endorsement a week or two ago as well. That's great. Yeah we're excited about it and you know it's an interesting race we have support like you said from a lot of non-establishment organizations and you know the Washington state progressive caucus and blue America and brand new Congress. But we're also getting some interesting support despite me being a grassroots candidate won't take corporate money you know all people powered running unabashedly as a progressive and the first openly LGBT candidate in this race and a first time candidate for office. But you know involved in the activist community we have a lot of people are really rallying out here because this district is only plus nine red the thing is there is not a democratic establishment in eastern Washington in Washington's fifth congressional district we had a speaker of the house who represented this district he served from 1964 to 1994 and then he lost and then we've had Republican representation for the last 25 years and that that speaker of the house the last Democrat to hold this seat you know he won a lot of those rural areas but after his loss there just wasn't any infrastructure building for Democrats to win and you know one of the things I really communicate to folks out district is that I'm not running this race trying to be right left up down I'm running this race and supporting the policies I support because they're what are going to help people in eastern Washington the most in some of our counties we have 10% unemployment while the president brags about national unemployment in some of our counties we have a third of the population under the poverty line in some of our counties we have two thirds of students on reduced or free lunch and so folks are really struggling housing costs are getting more expensive and at the same time I'm the only person in this race but that's also because for almost a year we've been mobilizing I announced last May and just started showing up at neighborhood council meetings and finding other people who are done with our current representative who is completely absent from the district who doesn't support the Equal Rights Amendment who has voted many times to restrict people's rights restrict people's opportunities voted for the Trump tax cuts votes with Trump and Lindsey Graham and Steve King and all those folks 95% of the time completely in lock step and she's running for her ninth term people can see that it's not going to cut it we need a change we need something better Yeah and in this district I love that you're not sacrificing your principles but you aren't necessarily emphasizing the label you're just saying I support Medicare for all how that affects you and in terms of like how that is actually landing in your district what has the response been to Republican people because I've always maintained that I think that policies like Medicare for all and really working class targeted policies they will resonate with some Republicans you just have to explain how it has this concrete impact on their lives so how has that landed just with regard to your district Rural hospitals across this district were closing down until the ACA came around and it made them profitable for the first time in a long time so that minimal intervention was really important and helpful for a lot of folks out here and when I talk about Medicare for all one of the first things I mention is that we I used to have a commander who would tell me the best answer is the right answer the second best answer is the wrong answer and the worst answer is no answer now we're not getting any answers I meet people across this district no matter if it's a rural area or a suburban area and they'll tell me stories about how they are a family of five with three diabetics sharing one insulin prescription among all three of them every single month rolling those dice about people who avoid going to the doctor when they get injured because they might not be able to buy food and even worse it might be their child who was injured and they might ask themselves am I going to pay for that x-ray just to find out that nothing's wrong and then we don't have grocery money and it's affecting people our district is 25% bigger than New Jersey it's over 10 counties it covers a lot of area but this unites us and when I was active duty Air Force I had solid strong good insurance most of my childhood I was underinsured or uninsured except for when my dad and so I remember going off to wrestling practice and knowing that if I got hurt it would hurt my family financially that wasn't a good feeling it's not something a 12 year old should have to deal with and in the military we had our own version of universal single payer that's what tri care is you have staff salary doctors who are wearing the same uniform as you they're in a base clinic or hospital that's completely run internally on base there's no billing at all the administrative costs are way lower and the doctor doesn't get paid more if they see more patients their whole job is to make sure you're healthy many times a doctor would just say things like I think you're good but why don't you go up to the third floor and get an x-ray get an MRI just to be sure and that's never gonna happen in the civilian world so when I speak to folks no matter how conservative or liberal it doesn't matter the idea that nobody should make more money because you're more sick resonates across the board yeah totally propaganda is effective but only effective to a point these are lived experiences that we're kind of speaking to when you have this insurance vulture that you're arguing on the phone to pay a bill that they're supposedly supposed to cover and you have to argue with them to pick up the tab I mean you can't lie about that you can't explain to us how much we love our private insurance companies nobody likes that so I think that when you really have these types of conversations and you just cut you push away all that partisan stuff and you just talk to people it really does land so tell us about this race because you're going up against a well-funded behemoth so assuming you're able to actually win that primary what do you think you can do to actually pull off a victory here which would I think be a national upset for the primary most years so I'll also say Washington state is a top two primary so as a democrat I will be challenging our republican incumbent in the primary and most years yeah most years we only have one democrat make it to the primary period we don't have a deep bench of people to run out here and so you know 2018 was the first time that in her you know eight terms my opponent that she had really been given a run for her money literally we just had in most years our candidates only raised about 350,000 our 2018 candidate raised about 5 million and got this district put on the blue to red to blue list and still ended up losing our 2018 candidate was more moderate I don't even like using those terms but it was tough to nail down where they actually stood on the issues their website didn't have any policy on it and publicly they did everything they could to avoid taking a stand on things like healthcare or on gun rights or on you know a whole different host of issues that people are really concerned about and it's just my view and I think a lot of other people's view that if you don't nail down where you stand nobody's going to respect you right left center it doesn't matter so we had an expensive loss in 2018 but it forced my opponent to spend a lot of their piggy bank and so they have less money this time the Republicans are defending more seats were nine points from winning this district that's it it's single digit red and we can do it it just takes a different type of campaign and this is something that really only one group in politics understands and grassroots candidates that we need to knock on every door we need to be willing to talk to purple and red voters because we as working class candidates working class people me as a former first responder and veteran I have more in common with a Trump supporter who works in a trade then someone who's been in politics for 30 years 40 years doesn't know what it's like to make minimum wage doesn't know what it's like to be uninsured or underinsured and is probably not going to fight for things like our health care or our civil liberties with anywhere near the tenacity of someone who's actually had those things attacked to them it just becomes more of a political bargaining chip who donated to my campaign okay I guess I can't defend that group of people or I can't help make sure that we have good jobs here and so we're running a good race that works over and I know that we can win yeah that's incredible and I love that you have that strategy and a lot of candidates that I talked to they say that it really is easy to win over voters just by talking to them because a lot of people who these grassroots campaigns are activating they've never been contacted by a political campaign throughout their entire life so they hear from someone who asks what issues affect them and they think okay well you have my vote I've never voted because it seems like it doesn't matter but you're literally asking me what concerns me you won me over that way so I mean it just is a matter of talking to enough people and also name recognition is important as well I think if enough people know that they have an option that's not corporatist they will respond to that so currently at this point in time in 2020 we're all kind of riding high because Bernie Sanders is the favorite there's a lot of grassroots candidates throughout the country and we're kind of for the first time at least I am because I'm a very cynical individual thinking about what's possible so let's assume that you win you make it to congress Bernie Sanders is president we've got the best possible political predicament in that first year in 2021 what do you think is going to be your main priorities and you know there's a lot I always stress that there's like a hundred different things that need to be addressed immediately but if you had to prioritize like three just personally what do you think you'd focus on in congress healthcare housing and jobs to put it succinctly in our district in particular people are getting we have a healthcare crisis in this country and like I said earlier having a system that incentivizes corporations to want a sick and to not heal us it's not tenable you know if we had a magic pill that made everyone free from disease corporations would never the pharmaceutical company the health insurance company would never want us to have it and so we need to make sure that people are able to receive healthcare and treatment from cradle to grave and preventative care that's going to save us money long term so healthcare is number one it's the number one uniting thing that we're all experiencing and that's why I support single payer Medicare for all and housing is another because across this district homelessness is becoming unable to get you know even with a full-time job to be able to get an apartment they're spending 50% of their income on their housing it's not something that people can continue to live with it gets very cold in eastern Washington and people are going to freeze to death on the streets just a few miles from where I am right now and I think you know a society's values really are shown by how we treat those most in need disabled populations marginalized communities all different folks who are really just being left behind while our government spends trillions of dollars killing hundreds of thousands of people in other places so that's another one of my priorities and then jobs that's why I'm a supporter of the Green New Deal because we need a federal jobs guarantee we need to be able to bring jobs to people to make sure that they have a living wage I you know when people talk about make America well so that Trump stole that from Reagan and Reagan was talking about late 50s early 60s ish you know your Eisenhower's your JFK's a period in American history where for the most part you could raise a family on a single income even with a high school education and where union membership was at 95% and that's also the period in American history where the lowest earning 90% of Americans held the highest concentration of wealth the same time that union membership peaked and so healthcare housing and jobs for the people in eastern Washington for our community for our nation and for our planet because that's the thing you know it's Congress it's federal we're not electing a dictator president hopefully as long as we have co-equal branches of government as long as that's a thing and hopefully this election makes that happen again then we need votes in Congress that are going to fight for decisive climate action that are going to fight for employment that are going to fight for not just affordable housing but guaranteed housing as a right for healthcare as a right it only happens with Congress and in 2008 2010 when President Obama wanted a public option it seemed a blue Congress was the reason it didn't happen because they were corporate and a lot of folks here in eastern Washington like to say flip the fifth blue I don't support that I don't because blue and red aren't going to solve our problems what's going to solve our problems is healthcare as a right as a human right housing as a human right and climate action I love that you said that because that was kind of my next question because as you talk about your agenda and what needs to happen because it is urgent my question is how do you respond to the inevitable marginalization from democratic leadership because assuming we're not able to change leadership and get Barbara Lee as speaker for example that would be an amazing scenario but assuming it's still Nancy Pelosi and she doesn't want Medicare for All and she has everyone else who's working with her on committees who are important to block that from even you know coming up like how do you fight the party and you know what would you do if you were threatened with committee assignments being stripped from you if you spoke out you know in favor of Medicare for All how do you fight within the party and affect change while still holding on to power but trying to have an influence like I think this is a really difficult line that candidates on the left have to walk because you're in this unique situation like Republicans will never challenge you know Republican Party leadership because they're you know in lockstep but when it comes to the Democratic Party you have the split between centrists and the left and so they still have these institutional mechanisms party leadership that is that can kind of stop you so how do you fight against that like what's your plan and this is something that I genuinely don't know if there's a right answer to but I just like to kind of pick the brains of each of the candidates because I think that you all have really good answers that make me feel optimistic so what's your take on this you know when you get elected that seat doesn't belong to you it belongs to the people it belongs to the people who voted for you and so if elected when elected and I'm in Congress and we get that pushback doesn't matter what party someone's from I'm with the people wherever that puts me on the political spectrum I'm with taking care of the folks who can't wait for incremental change because they're dying because every month they're rolling the dice with that insulin sharing and so they deserve vocal advocates they deserve people who are gonna shout in the halls of Congress who are gonna demand that we take action our planet demands it as they look as folks look for a middle ground between destroying our planet destroying our lives allowing people to die continuing to invest more money in forever wars as they try to look for a middle ground between that and just taking care of people I'm not gonna sacrifice our values I'm not gonna sacrifice our morals because we deserve better I'm not running to take a seat and then only care about re-election that it doesn't matter the people here for too long have had someone who wasn't around at all and we see it around the country and if nothing else at least I can be the voice there that shouts back and calls it out in person and helps bring support for candidates that are gonna help fight back you know Sarah Smith is our fundraising director she was a 2018 brand new congress candidate she was challenging a democrat she was democrat primarying a democrat and if that's what it takes that's what it takes because we're here to fight for the people that are already I love that answer go ahead I interrupted you say what you're gonna say I don't even remember the reason why I like to ask that is because I think that a lot of people I'm trying to bring out that internal Machiavelli and political instinct if it exists I love how AOC explained that when you get to congress there's all of these different voices that immediately get in your ear that you to conform and you can kind of get a sense of which candidates will conform and which ones won't conform and I think that's super important to kind of ask what their strategy would be and you know you can hear in your answer that there wasn't any sense of well you know I'm gonna play along with leadership because I'll get in there once I get into power then I can effect change but that never happens in reality so it's important that people are committed to the fight when they get elected to congress I can see that with you, you passed that test and I wouldn't have told you if you didn't pass the test so congratulations so it's nice to see that people are getting elected not just with the right ideas but a correct strategy or at least a strategy that we hope will work that you're not gonna roll over and die like democrats usually do unfortunately it's a sad fact of reality but there's a lot of people who are well intentioned that don't want to fight and part of fighting for the people is this acknowledgement explicitly I think that you're gonna fight party leadership as well and your own party if need be so I think that a lot of people who've watched this if they haven't already heard about you are already convinced so tell us what we can do to help you get elected because I think that if you were representing the 5th congressional district and you kicked out a republican that would be just phenomenal so what can we do to make that a reality sure so you can go to armitageforcongress.com that's A-R-M-I-T-A-G-E F-O-R Congress.com or act blue and chip in a few dollars because we're doing this as an unbought campaign this is possibly the only race in the country where it is you know a progressive versus a republican where it's someone ready to fight for the working class a working class person ready to demand real change against a republican and it's in a winnable district we can win this district again but it only happens with your help and if we don't bring the fight if we don't really do everything we can then my opponent is also trumpswashington state fundraising chair they're one of the most important arms of his west coast fundraising and we need to pull her away from that how about she spends some time care with the people in eastern washington trying to explain cutting snap benefits while giving multi-trillion dollar tax cuts to the wealthy and it only happens if you help us buy yard signs and you know hold more public forums and that helps us all that helps build a future worth fighting for that helps build the future that we all want to see where our grandchildren can go fishing and where nobody has to die because they don't have health care because they can't afford to live yeah we'll we'll leave that there thank you so much chris we are watching very closely this race we're rooting for you and there's what a little over 160 days until the washington state primary is that correct in fact tell us the day tell us the day before we leave well technically it's august 4th but we do mail in ballots and so those get sent out a few weeks prior okay okay well i'll i'll have links on the bottom of the screen to your website and whatnot so they can get those details thank you so much chris well that's all that i've got for you all today thank you so much for tuning in if you've made it this far as usual we're not going to end the show without thanking all of our patreon paypal and youtube members for helping the show not just to survive but thrive as well thank you all so much by the time most of you see this the nevada caucus will have already been done we'll know the results hopefully assuming everything goes according to plan um but i'm preparing i will try to talk about that as soon as we get the results on saturday but because it's a weekend it's a little bit more difficult for me to cover it um but that doesn't matter because you already know but for our members you know that um going into this there's a lot at stake um we'll see this video early but regardless i'm just rambling at this point so let's just stop here i'll see you all next week take care everyone