And today we would like to highlight some relevant updates that have some impact in our dashboard for content providers and some of the services that we have. So let's say that we usually we provide, we talk about the novelties and we usually try to have a main topic for discussion today. The main topic in fact are those novelties. And at the end I will talk about what we want to discuss in March that I think we will have very good also community call in March. So for this call, basically what we want to do is to highlight what are the novelties that we have related with the broker, the broker service, so the metadata enrichments that OpenAir can deliver and provide for our content providers. And some novelties about also the API's gateways that can be of interest for some of you. And then some some work that we are doing on updating our interoperability guidelines that I think are also important. In some cases they we are talking about things that are in production. Other other cases we are talking about things that are it's ongoing work. So it's just for you to be to be aware and I will try to I have some slides, but I will try also to demonstrate things in the dashboard. For example, usually we prepare always this one slide with some recent news. So about the broker, this is what I'm going to present. So there are already things in production that the broker is as represented in the in the last call in 2020. So there is a new way to deliver metadata enrichment events. And it's important for you to be aware. So you need to play with this information in a different in a different way. So we will demonstrate that. Also metadata, metadata enrichment with the information of our kids is also already available in production. And we are presenting in a in a new way. So I think this is important to our our team. I think did a very good work to try to better present it for us the information that we have about our kids. So I will demonstrate that also also related with the dashboard and the user interface. We have some minor updates that so we are always trying to improve a bit based in our also on some feedback that we receive from you. But one of the things that we we finally found find time to work. It's about the multi user access. As you know, you can only access the dashboard, the provide.opener.eu dashboard using one login only. And several of you, some that are part of this community call today and others repository managers have already asked it. As to to to to be able to have more than one login to access the information about the specific data sources, specific repository. And we are working on that. It's not possible yet, but at least we have already the solution identified and the way that we are going to do. And I hope to have novelties for you in the community call of March, if not in production, at least with a specific timeline to everything production. The multi user access was a request from from the community, but in fact was not in our top list priorities to develop new features. So but now it's it's it's then after we solve the issues with the broker and the metadata enrichments, it's now the priority to deliver. And also, as you know, open air. So aggregates, of course, content from repositories via a way I PMAs interface, but also provide no IPMAs interface with the access to all content that we have. But we are in fact shutting down the same point. So maybe maybe it's not too relevant for the majority of you that are participating in this call. But so maybe there are some services that are consuming our information from from these endpoints. So be aware that we are also due to some scalability problems. So we are shutting down this service. But we are not, of course, but we are still providing access to the bulk content of the open air infrastructure. But it's via via Jason Demps that we have available in Zinodo. So there are records that we generate three or four times per year that we put available all the content in one single file. So you can access via Zinodo to this Demps, to those Demps. OK, basically, and about the guidelines. So I will present it. But so just to say that we have decided to work also on the kind of verification of our guidelines. So to check our guidelines are contributing also to our content providers become compliant also with the fair principles, but basically the fair maturity indicators that were delivered by the RDA majority working group. And we are working on that. This is just also to inform you about. So I will now just highlight some things from the broker service. And then if you have questions, feel free to ask here in the chat or just turn on your camera and microphone and ask him. Let's have a conversation here about this. So from the broker service, as you know, now we have a different approach to deliver events. If some of you in this call need to have some more information about the broker. I have a slide here, but I don't want to present it with the schema of how we are now delivering and working with this broker service. But I just want to highlight now that in the dashboard, what you see now is a sample of enrichments per category of enrichments. As you know, we have more metadata and missing metadata. So we are sending you enrichments to improve your quality of your metadata. So when we are sending metadata, enrichments of something that you have already and we are sending you more or something that you don't have missing enrichments. And now we only send a sample of records. So we only per topic, we can share with you 100 events. Then if you are interested, if you have a specific interest to receive notifications from a specific type of event from a specific category topic, you can subscribe. And only after you subscribe, you will start to see all the enrichments that we have for you. So we have done these changes also to provide more scalability to this service because our graph is expanding a lot. So it's important these issues around scalability and also sustainability for the future to keep this service relevant for you. So you see the sample. Then if you are interested, you can subscribe and so you can, in fact, click in a specific topic like here, the project in this, in this slide. So missing the links to projects, you can click, you see 100. And then if you are interested, you just subscribe and you will start receiving. And if for your project, for your repository, sorry, we have like 1000 records that you don't have a link to a project funding project that we have that information. We can send you 1000, you can see 1000, but only after you subscribe. The way that you that you can do for subscribers is the same as we didn't change that. But now I think we realize that this, this, this subscription is more important because now you really need to subscribe to see all the enrichments that we have for you from a specific topic that you consider relevant for you. So and then to subscribe, you just need to, to, to, to click in the events in the specific topics, if you want to receive links to projects or if you want to receive more PIDs or abstracts, missing abstracts in your repository, you just click in that event. Then you can refine a bit. So if you, for example, if you want only to have, let's, let's see this slide better, if you want only to, to have a specific dates from, so only links for projects over the last three years or from a specific subject. So you can, you can refine that and then you can, you can subscribe to, to this event. So, and this is, this is the way that you, you, you can have to, to, to make a subscription is the same way, but now it's quite relevant because to receive more than the sample of 100 enrichments, you need to subscribe. And then the results of the subscriptions will be available only the notification. So if you check the topic in the enrichment, you only see 100, but then if you check the notifications, you will see all the enrichments relevant for you from the last period that we have generated new method that enrichments and that we have updated the broker, the broker service. And let me, let me demonstrate this part. I think this is the moment to demonstrate this part. So I'm accessing the provide dot upon air dot to use service. And so we have access to the dashboard as for all the other community calls because I know that there are new persons here. If you have any issue accessing the provide dashboard provide dot upon air that you and the, you cannot see your repository or your, your journal. So please just contact Andre Andre, my colleague will put the email here. So you can contact the, the open air up desk, but you can contact directly my colleague and read because then we can solve it. We can solve the problem. So we know that there are some issues with that. The login sometimes. Okay. So here in the dashboard, what, what you see now different is that I was, I was sharing via those slides is that you see the enrichments. You have the sample of 100 records. Okay. And you, you can just click missing the abstract, for example, you will see one of the records and then you can subscribe can refine here in this button here for specific dates, and then you will see the results and then you can subscribe. Subscriptions will be visible in in your notifications and every time we run. So last time that we regenerate all the broker. That was before Christmas. And we are running in fact this during this week. A new update. So we will hope to have that information available on the coming week new new metadata enrichments. We will see all the events that you have subscribed and the total number of events that we are sharing with you. So, for example, missing the orchids here or missing PIDs, for example. So what is new now in the then I take this opportunity. If it is clear if it is not clear, please ask question or just do it via via. Jordan is asking so that the if, if, if notifications are being we have more questions. Okay, let's start with this question from Jordan if the notifications are updated monthly. This is the the the objective of open air is to have notifications updated monthly. Yes. So the maximum is to have it every month and you will pay. But if we don't have an update of the broker enrichments, we don't have new notifications only if we have an update of the broker. So and and as we have changed the broker service in December, we have generated new. And now as we are doing some changes in the open air infrastructure, specifically the open air research graph, we have a slight delay but but not not not so much. So we have this enrichment from mid December and we are going to have only almost two months is after. But the objective that is after the February, we I think we will be able to have it every month. Let's, let's hope that we can have this depends on the So because the big increase expansion of our research graph was in the end of last year. So now I think we can manage to have every month. Yes, Jordan, the answer is yes, but we cannot promise to have it but as we have this month we call we can So always provide you an update information about that, but be aware that this week we are running updates and next week they will be available. And thank you Jordan for that question and thank you Julian also. So Julian is this in this notifications part when we have say hundreds of enrichment's possible but not all are pertinent suppose somehow false positive do we have a way to dismiss them and not see them again. Yeah, great question Julian. And this is quite important. The answer is no, or the correct answer is not yet because this is something that we really want to improve. And, in fact, due to another project related project. So as you know, open air some of you may know open air is have a It's running an innovation innovation project innovation tender. And as a result of one of those projects that was developed by the company for science. And open air in fact already prepared the back end to receive this kind of interaction with you. So, to receive your feedback about for example, I don't want this, I reject this event or I discard this event. So until now we don't have a way to record this and we can only provide this service if we find a way to record, because of that other project that for science is developing for this place Chris, and then in this place seven, let's say, but specifically seven, that in fact will be the topic of the coming call so in, in, in March, we will have for science doing a demo of this, of this, of this service. And then if Jordan can also join me at the end, Jordan can also share something about this because Jordan. So the question in the shot also is, did the pilot test of this service that we are going to present in March. So, in fact, this way of discard and reject events is working already in that implementation in this space Chris. So we are already we are already starting to record those events from this space Chris, a way to use method that enrichments in this space Chris. So we will have the same approach in, in this service. Hopefully, we will do it as soon as possible. But I cannot promise a date where to deliver this, but this is our also in our now in our list now where it's not not only in our wish list but in our priority list to to for the improvements in our services. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Julian, for your question. Yes. Okay, thank you, Julian. So, Jim last day. Thank you for your question question from a newbie. Okay, do you have abstracts that wouldn't be present in crossref metadata, for example. We may have, because as we, the broker compare the metadata that specific repository have against the metadata that we are collecting from different content providers, crossref is also content provider but then other repositories or other editors publishers are also contributing and they may have the abstract and not crossref so we can find an abstract from a repository another repository, and we can share it with you. So, for sure, there are those those cases. Let's see. Let's see if I find a good example here. So maybe if my, if my colleague and I find a good example of an abstract. Yes, this came from and pay wall for more kids. Good. So, for example, here to answer. So, for example, this article. We saw repository from University of Mino so my university don't have the the substrates and the end we can get an abstract from this specific repository from from this university. Okay, from. Here is me Microsoft academic. Here is the the aggregator from from the repository from Russia. So different, different content providers of open air, the usual suspects representatives institutional positives but other services. The academic and by wall or now also from our kid because we have this service of the UI boost that we interact information from the metadata from the eyes and we can, we can also provide that information. So, yes, from this sample. We have different. We are receiving from different cases, but for sure this one is an example from a specific institution or procedure. And I think what I wanted to highlight from the broker is done. Okay. The now. So, our call is my, my, my, my, my, my colleague Stephanie from from a Tina research center that is supporting the technical team. And in terms of user interface. So did this, this change now in the, in the way that we are providing, we have a mistake here in our kids events, no problem. The way that we are exposing now the content. Now it's more clear. So, you see the record. Because we have some issues the way that we can highlight the relevant information for you. So now we, we have them. They are keyed we put the, the, the code in bold, just to highlight. And if you can, if you want to use it, as you know, currently events. You can only use this information in a manual, manual way so you can copy paste and update your record. The service that we are going to present next week, next week in March next month. You will see that this is possible to do it. This is almost automatically directly in, in, in a repository, the system. So this case this space crease or the space seven in the future that was the project developed by for science, which proves that this can be done in other kinds of software platforms. As soon as soon as possible, I hope that we can also finally have good news in March, we will have also CSV file so you can download when you see here, when you see the, for example, the notifications you will see the, the link to the events for open in reach missing open access versions. Zero, click in zero missing options. Let's use 96 so you will see also a file to download the 96 results, the file the CSV file with the 96 results from the metadata and you can do whatever you can do in your, in your side in your system automatically. Or semi automatically. Okay, Andre, do you do we do we do I need to highlight something more from the broker. Just a small point that in the previous slide about the arcade is here we system tell us that find one event one arcade and below we have all arcade is this happens because by now the broker doesn't aggregate all the events per publication generates one event or idea that finds for this publication. Yeah, I think I think this is important to highlight yes, thank you very much and right this is important so be aware that we are not aggregating all the enrichments per record so we are sending individual enrichment so we can we can from the same record, we can send you the DOI that will enrich your content, one or key or two or kids and one abstract so from the same records, we can send you three enrichments. But we, the way that we are delivering the metadata regions are enrichment by enrichment and not merge in one single enrichment record, let's say, okay. This is the services is great is really an added value service for all of us. But of course, it has limitations. I see that someone is with sound if you want to join me. Just, just ask a question. Okay. Not sure. So, yes, Julian, I hope that we can do so for the CSV just one information for Julian and for all for the CSV, we will still have limitations so CSV will be a limit to 2000 records. This is the way that we work also in Explorer, for example, currently in Explorer Explorer. If you do search queries, you can also export the results of a query in a CSV file limited to 2000 records, we will have the same approach for for some cases. If you are subscribing gain Richmond type of enrichment, you, you may found more than 2000, which is a problem for CSV but but this may be a problem in the beginning but then if you are updating your records in your side then you will be less records in the future. Okay. Okay. Let me. So, let me ask him. So if we don't have any other question will start Andre. Let me check if I so we were not sure if my colleagues from University of Bilo fell that are managing the guidelines. In the past in open air, we're able to join because no, we're not sure due to a conflict conflict of other meetings so if they are if they are not here so I will unfortunately, you will, you need to listen five minutes more from me and not from other person. So, this was the first date that we wanted to share with you the broker now about the guidelines. It's another it's not something that you see directly in the dashboard it's about our interoperability guidelines and for you to be aware that we are working in some important areas. Okay. And these updates are from my, from my colleagues from from Bilo felt. So, as you know, we have this, this different types of guidelines for different types of content providers. Since the beginning, of course, the literature guidelines. Then we have expanded to that archive guidelines for research data. And then we have done a work with the Rock Rees also to have guidelines for pre systems that have a new version. And because of the open science ecosystems need to integrate other kinds of research output so we have decided also now to present some guidelines for repository for software repositories and for other kinds of research output so. But these two are more kind of open guidelines but it's so some guidance in order to open air to be allowed to to aggregate content from these different kinds of content providers. Which is, which is good that open air can support different kinds of data sources from different kinds of of research outputs, but it's also a problem because in some cases we have repositories in maybe your case that are a kind of hybrid content providers that the sources that in fact are providing not only publications but also data sets or protocols or even software records. So we need to find a way also to to to merge the guidelines to provide individual guidance but also a kind of fundamental guidelines with. aggregated in one single specification. This is the timeline of our of our guidelines, but the just want to highlight that now what we are doing in terms of updates. So the last in product updates that we did that are one of the things that we are doing in terms of. Now what we are doing in terms of updates. So the last in product updates that we did that are available publicly available work in 2018 and now what we are doing is updating the archive guidelines guidelines for that repositories and working on on the verification like I said so to to check our guidelines. Our guidelines and our the way that our guidelines support also the compliance with the fair principles and the fair indicators. And we also want to have this kind of fundamental content provider guidelines based on this reality that we have more and more hybrid data sources. So my life that my my colleagues from the University of Villa felt want to present today for you to be aware that we are working on this and do you can expect novelties. Towards towards fair principles. So what are we doing that I hope you to see soon as soon as possible available in the in the in the also in the dashboard. The the so the idea is that we can also check the the the main elements from the the principle from the fair principles and how, complying with our guidelines, the different set of guidelines that we have in what way you are also complying with the fair principles and how the guidelines complying with the guidelines can help you to also to be compatible with the the the fair principles this is the main idea and what we are going to do is that we are we will put in the in our guidelines specification guidelines not open to you, you have some examples for example they our ideas also to because we already did that exercise. It's just a way to present them to you so you will see in our guidelines page for the different profiles that we have for the different guidelines that we have, like an a box highlighting and in to what extent you're complying with that specific you are also complying with some principles from the fair from elements from the fair principles okay this is the basic idea I hope that this, this is the way that I am explaining is is clear for you. And we are also doing another thing so reflection of the fair elements in guidelines this is what we want to do. And like to improve the information that we have in the guidelines page but also we are preparing using our validator tool like a kind of examination of verification so our idea is that we will have here in the Okay, when currently we have three types of tests that you can do so you can run validation test against our literature repository guidelines against our data repository guidelines and against our systems, and you will see another box here. I hope to have that soon depends off the our capacity to work on this elements are almost already. Analyzed the question of integrate the rules in our validator so you will see wait just to test this is this this is just a test to help you to have a clear view on what extent your repository. Is fair, let's say in terms of exposing content. But it's not a validation to integrate in open air is just a test. Okay, just a service from open air for you to help you on this compatibility. Okay, this is our idea just to share with you. If you have any comment any feedback that you would like to give us just check because now you are aware that we have this is in danger. Then the other thing is that we are going to work in the hopeful to have in the coming months is also this kind of fundamental guidelines a way that we can have a kind of. We will still have the different types of guidelines to different types of content providers but one. So guideline that we can like kind of merge or more nice and simplify this is the objective that my colleagues from bill of health put it in a clear way so establishing establishing this this fundamental basis for for the open air guidelines and monetization and simplification. This is our idea, because more and more data sources are hybrid in our kind of catch all, like for example, so no we have a zeno that you can put publication software presentations that the sets and more and more institutional repositories are becoming like a zeno catch or positive week, and it's important then that the simplify lives because then the repository need to comply with the literature guidelines and with the data archive guidelines and we should come with the simplify version of our guidelines this is the main idea. So as we have the Chris guidelines so be aware that we will we want to integrate more Chris systems and if you have if you have a system that you think that is compliant with the guidelines just contact us so our team can support because we don't have so many pre systems, complying with our guidelines and we need to test them and to integrate more and more more and more the last slide about this to finish is that so being part of open air contributing with content for open air being part of the infrastructure as a content provider. So complying complying with our guidelines. It's the first step also to be part of the of the European open science clouds open air is is will facilitate the onboarding process for the for the OSC and being part of the infrastructure, the open infrastructure, your content will also be part of the content, visible data, research data, publications, etc. in the European open science cloud this is important to highlight there are lots of work ongoing work related with the European open science cloud there are other projects that are being developed in different areas open air is quite active there and open air is a service provider of the European open science cloud. Let me check if you have more questions here so you have access to the presentation if there is something in the presentation that you you want to share with others or just to check you have us also access to the recordings after we have one question to answer in the Google talk about the IPM. So Andre, the information about the IPM is also available in develop not only in the in better but also in production in production. So you see here that the so the information about you if you want to have more information about this we have updated here everything related with the API is so are available in develop. If they are not yet available they will be available. So Julian, you will only lose something if in fact you are using our bulk access to IPM interface. This is the way the image endpoint from open air was a way to open it to expose all the content from open air to certain parties for those that are consuming for example, EPSCO EPSCO was consuming the open air way IPM interface for their discovery service. Okay. Of course we have already had conversations with EPSCO they will start consuming our bulk content via different way, not via our game, our endpoint. So this is an example I suppose that this is not critical for for because it was because it was are not using this. So, you know, I hope that I can have answered your question. Some like systems like those I am aware that some cases some some repository managers working with the IT teams in their institutions also have used our way IPM engine endpoint to gather all content from open air and to check for example for duplicates in their repository or to enrich their metadata. I know that in some cases I know at least from two or three or four situations, two or three situations that the repository managers or IT teams in institutions have used this, but this is not the normal case. Usually, there are other services consuming open air not not you as a content repository manager. Okay, no, no problem. Yes, Julian. Okay, so let me. Do you have any other questions I think I think we don't need to spend one hour here. So we can finish this call before. Sorry for you. So I was the only speaker. So you need to listen for almost 15 minutes. And please be aware that if you have any issue login, ask us directly and raise here. Send us an email that we always try to solve it because the usual problem is that. So you have your data source linking to a different email. So we need to check them and give you permissions. The last thing that I want to share just before we finish this. So our idea for the multi user access. It's something that everyone is asking us. Okay. Our idea, then if you have better ideas just share with us and send us an email or provide us feedback. Our idea is that we will put here in this area of the update. Okay. The update is the where you can update some information of your data source if you want to change the information about the name or update the, the IP image interface is the compliance level. So our idea is to have a new tab here. Okay. I don't remember the specific name that we have mentioned but let's say a table. I'm not sure if Stephanie is here but the idea was to have a new tab here. User, user permissions where you can manage user permissions and where you can see those that have access to your data source or you can have a user. That is already user of open air provide okay but not access to your data source that you want to give them access to your data source okay we will put this here in this page. Okay, and you can update user permissions and you can give permissions to another user so then two or three or four more users will have access to the data source a specific data source. For example, for this case it's supposedly off menu, I will update here and give more give access to other users. Okay, just to share this with you. If you think that we should put this in another place just tell us but but I think we from our discussions we want to do it here. And I hope that this will be useful for everyone. Okay, another question from Andreas. So Andreas is asking how are the metadata from different providers merged in the items we have examples where it's unclear why which metadata is prioritized. Okay. I'm not sure if I'm understanding well the question but I will do my best. Thank you Andreas for the question. The way that the broker works. It's a. So we have. So we compare the metadata. Do the eyes, based it on when we duplicate, we do duplicate publications, and we compare metadata so for this for this metadata coming from this data source. We have these fields for this one we have those fields and if there are gaps we just do the broker just do the work. We We, I'm not sure if my colleagues, my colleague cloudy what sorry for example from CNR is here to help me reply into this question but what we what we if I understand about what is not clear for you. Okay, what we do is that there is a prioritization to data sources that have higher high quality metadata let's say more metadata fields available in our infrastructure so this is the the prioritization that we have and we also usually give prioritization to repositories to institutional repositories. Instead, for example from from the publisher or from from from others. So this is what I can say in terms of prioritization but I am not sure if I am answering your question if you want to jump in and put your audio one and ask me your questions feel free if not so just put your question. Just share your email with us in the private message if you want and we can reply to you with better information if I am not Yeah, providing all the needed information. Yeah, thank you very much for the feedback I'm not I'm rather new with the whole thing and I think this help just have some weird examples where our metadata has overwritten the publisher metadata and in some cases we get our DOI is used and in some cases not but it's probably best if I contact someone on your site directly. Who can I ask. Yes, you can you can. So my colleague cloudy what sorry, we can also share the email here it's not the problem so we are open to questions. Or you can ask you can send this email for me or for Andre and then we can point you to one day for cloudy cloudy is the manager of the broker, but the way So the way that it works is like I said so we the from all the duplication that we do that we do from all the the the DIY boost also that is being run now in open air so we try to compare metadata so and and it's important to say we also make mistakes so we also deliver metadata enrichment that they are not completely enrichments due to problems with the duplication the wrong, for example, the duplication or wrong other kinds of mistakes that we can do. This is why we also have a trust a trust level in the in the in our services also I want to just twice also point that for example here. When you see the event. We also have we can also not sharing your screen. I'm not sharing this course. So, okay, sorry. But you okay, but not to avoid this time. So just to say that we also have a level of trustness with the with the with the metadata enrichments in some cases is zero one, for example, deliver the eyes or you or is it yes or no you have it or no for other cases. The links to projects. This is different so there is a level of trust because it's in something that is missing and raise for you to understand yes and sorry for that I forgot to mention so some cases we are comparing okay and they and they is already sharing the screen. Thank you. Thank you. So this is the you can also filter by the level of trust but in some cases zero one the others is really it's important to say that we have we are sending metadata enrichments based on comparing and working on the only at the metadata level. Okay, the data sources are providing metadata and we are comparing and delivering the metadata regions but also based on test mining. Okay, and this is important. Sorry Andreas I didn't provide you this feedback for example links to projects. I think I we can say that the majority 80% between 80 to 70% from our analysis. The links the new links to projects that we are delivering for repositories are coming from test mining. Okay, from our test mining algorithms, not from metadata information about projects that we found in other data sources. Okay, this is important to highlight. I think that this was more useful for my answer. I forgot to mention that part of the test mining. And please feel free to contact. And they already shared contact from probably that is the manager of the broker. He can provide more clear information if you have any doubt but feel free to contact me, me or Andre also. Thank you very much. You can play with the play with the metadata enrichments that you have. And for sure you'll find more explanation you for sure you'll find lots of useful information in some cases maybe some, some things that they may be appear like errors or you want, you want to reject this card. Breanna, do you have any plan to have monitor dashboard meetings that are this is the Breanna. I'm not the monitor dashboard manager and doing my best for provide and to have the, the feedback from the community from repository managers and to be able to have open as a useful service for all repository managers, three system managers, etc. For monitor. I think the idea is also to engage with funders and we gauge those that are close to funders supporting funders at the national level. There are relevant progress is in monitor dashboard, but I cannot say more than this. Breanna, my dear Breanna, but I would like to nominate you just to have more work. It's okay I understand I know that person. I just think that maybe you have more information. If they are planning if this group also planning the meeting like this one. The important yes this is important important to say that we open air also want to have this approach of community calls with the with other with other stakeholders to engage with other stakeholders. I'm not sure if this way of doing things is result also with funders. But I think have a kind of calls with the funders I think it's for sure important to gather feedback requirements, etc. And I think this is this is the plan also. I know that for within also a ask future projects. We also want to engage more with the providers and the community calls is an approach that we also want to follow to have more feedback. Thank you for putting the question is important and I know that everything is related information that we are also giving to repository managers and the providers also is also important for funders so. Okay, we reach one hour of call. I hope that. So it was useful for some of you for those that are new I hope to that you were not lost. If you want to receive more information so just contact us be aware that presentations and recordings will be available. So, our next call will be March, March three. So first Wednesday of the month. Please go to the link to the community calls all the community calls are already scheduled you can put in your calendars. Okay, bye bye. Thank you very much. Thank you all. Several colleagues from Portugal also thank you for joining and all the other colleagues many things for joining. I'm happy that you can contribute and give your feedback and your presence here. Bye bye.


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Alrighty, so I have a really exciting construction update for you guys today as footers start to make their way outside the mountain. So as you're going to see here, it's snowed. So they're just salting and getting the snow ready or removed to move in this beast of a machine that you see back there over parked by Pizza Pizza. So essentially this machine is going to come up and install steel framing for the new tunnel. And now when they install this new steel framing for the new tunnel, you're going to notice it's not much wider than the current tunnel. So keep that in mind. So the total width of the tunnel is about 7.5 meters max. And most coasters can fit in that. But what I want you to pay attention to is the location, the offset of the footing.  This is the machine. They are getting ready to hammer in those steel piles, very similar to what you saw over at Topthrill 2. So for those of you that remember, if you remember that big triangular footing that they built in between Iron Dragon, they're essentially doing that for the tunnel. Over here you can see them getting their wood stacked up for forms of footings. So that's exciting. Nothing is moved too far outside of the tunnel yet. And no signs of any building demolition quite yet either. So that's something we're definitely paying attention to. What I am going to include in today's video is an example of how tunnel demolition takes place. I did a lot of research and using Google. So when I say a lot of research, don't give me too much credit. It was pretty easy to do. But what you see there is those two giant steel boards up against the wall of the tunnel and those beams that come across. You can also see a little footing covered in tarp and then with four little wood panels on top, which is where I guess those little screws come out. Again, it is really far away. So obviously take that with a grain of salt. But from what I've been hearing through the rumor mill, there is also another footing just a little few feet down in the tunnel about 10 feet further into the tunnel. The same aligned perfectly with that one is another footing as well. So that's really exciting. But if you notice, they're offset to the left. And that makes sense. If you're watching the podcast yesterday, you would notice why that might be the case with catwalks and everything and then a little room for service. So definitely keep that in mind. But that still does not guarantee anything. But at this current moment with these little footings coming out of the ground like that and offset and all that, it is pretty easy to confirm that this will not be an invert or a flying coaster over at Moose Horn Falls. Work has gone to dig out kind of like you can actually see almost like the making in dirt and snow of the water slide itself. So that's exciting as well. Minebusters come a long way as well in terms of its retracting. They should almost be done to be honest. But what I'm going to show you guys on the screen is what I talked about earlier. So you saw those two steel frames that go along the side of the tunnel and then the beams that come across. Here you can see on an article how tunnel demolition is done. And it's exactly done the same way. And then they dig down top from top to bottom, they'll dig it out essentially. So that's what I'm expecting for this tunnel. And that should take place this week as well. Anyways, that's all I have for you guys today. Hopefully you enjoyed today's construction update. It is very telling. But yeah, definitely subscribe to Patreon if you're looking for first access to our construction updates and information. I do a lot of work. I go fly almost as daily as possible when I know there's work going on. So there is going to be quite the pause in construction, obviously. There will be nothing going on today, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. There'll be no activity and they'll start activity again on Tuesday. But yeah, thanks so much for watching, guys. Have a good one. Bye.


Coming up on DTNS, should Twitter add a subscription model? Why DoorDash bought a robot company that does not do delivery robots and transparent wood? This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, February 8th, 2021 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Redwood. I'm Sarah Lane. And from the increasingly lighter forests of Finland. I'm Patrick Winshaw. Hi, I'm the show's producer, Roger Chen. We were just having a talk about Super Bowl and about Joe Montana video games and what they call football in various parts of the world. If you want that wider conversation, become a member. Get our Good Day Internet show.  Patreon.com slash DTNS. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. Pinellas County, Florida, Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said Monday that someone gained remote access to the Oldsmar, Florida water treatment plant at 8 a.m. February 5th and an attempt to increase the level of sodium hydroxide to a dangerous level. A plant operator first thought a supervisor had access the system from home. After the intruder raised the amount of sodium hydroxide, the operator immediately reduced it back. The remote access program has since been disabled. The sheriff noted other fail-saves and alarm systems would have also prevented the dangerous adjustment had the operator not noticed. Yeah, look that systems working. Nice. Hyundai and its affiliate Kia said it is not in talks with Apple to develop an autonomous vehicle. In regulatory filings Monday, Hyundai said it was in talks with multiple companies about autonomous EVs, but no decisions had been made. Hyundai statements are almost identical to what it said last month about Apple, which could mean the company did have talks with Apple but isn't right now and Apple isn't at the point to sign any deals yet. So we'll just wait until somebody announces something for sure. Tesla did announce it would begin accepting Bitcoin from customers quote, subject to applicable laws and initially on a limited basis and quote, according to a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed Monday. Tesla also bought $1.5 billion in Bitcoin, which the company says will offer more flexibility to further diversify and maximize returns on its cash. Greatfire.org, which monitors censorship reports that the API for the audio based social app Clubhouse is now blocked in China. Please check your overunders to find out if you bet right. The app's website remained available last we saw. The app was not officially listed in China's app store very soon after it launched, but the app could previously be used without a VPN in the country. Now you just need to use a VPN, I guess. The beta release of iOS 14.5 now supports setting a default music streaming service for Siri. The first time a user asks her to play a song, the voice assistant will ask to set a default service. Or if a user specifies a service, the first time they ask, Siri will set that service as the default. All right, let's talk a little more about facial recognition. A new paper from Mozilla fellow Deborah Raji and U.S. Congressional Technology fellow Genevieve Freed looked at 130 different facial recognition datasets over several decades to examine how the data was collected and labeled and give us some historical perspective. Here's what they found. They broke down the history of facial collection into four phases. First phase went from 1964, the first time this was ever done into the mid 1990s characterized by manual collection with universal consent. You brought somebody in. You said, can I take your photograph? You took the photograph. Second phase included the U.S. Defense Department funded face recognition technology database or Ferret database, which collected 14,000 images from 1,200 people increasing through the late 2000s. 86% of the images in that data set had consent. Third phase started along with, you know, the web 2.0 social networking craze in 2007 with the labeled faces in the wild data set scraped imaging from the web. So Google Flickr, Yahoo! That also included mug shots and only 31% of the images from these larger data sets had consent. Metadata was manually generated in all three of those phases. The final phase that they studied, phase four, began with Facebook's 2014 deep face model that used user photos from within Facebook and deep learning for identification. That improved the accuracy of facial recognition quite a bit and introduced auto-generated labels, which are not as accurate. It also was a low for user consent, 8.7% of images. Now they really hammer away at this consent part of this, but it's interesting to me to note that back in 2007, the attitude was, hey, everybody's sharing their images on Flickr with Creative Commons. As long as you attribute where it came from, you can just take it. It was the gestalt of the time of, hey, we're all contributing data so that everybody can access it and we can innovate more. And since that time, our ideas and our thoughts on privacy have evolved, I would say. And so what was non-controversial in 2007 and then accelerated by Facebook in 2014 is now considered to be something problematic, which is just because you have access to a photo of my face doesn't mean I want you to be using it in a facial recognition database. Yeah, it's interesting that these days, more people than ever understand that this happens and for the most part how it works, yet the fewest amount of people are consenting and there's just more data overall. Back in 2007, I mean, not much of a Flickr user anymore, but I was pretty heavy into that whole thing and I would have been super gung-ho about contributing to making this technology smarter.  All good stuff. If you're going to print it in a magazine, I want a little money, but otherwise, I was part of the solution. I don't totally feel the same way anymore, but I don't know, Patrick, what are your thoughts? I wonder if a Creative Commons image is considered to be consent okay, right? Because you say, go ahead, use it for anything you want. In the case of Facebook, you kind of consent because you agree to the user agreement and we could argue about whether or not you actually understand what the user agreement is, but you kind of consent as well by using the service. So to me, the thing that really changes, is it necessarily the explicit consent, it's the relationship we have to these kinds of uses. And that is what I take away from it. It's back then, as you said, Tom, it was like, yeah, let's all make the world better together.  With my pictures? No, I didn't give you the authorization to do that. So that's more of my takeaway. Yeah, go ahead. I wonder if Facebook had existed in that form in, you know, back in the Flickr days, would people have been less frustrated by these kinds of data collections for the modeling? Yeah, I think it has to do with contemplated use, right? Or with your Facebook example, informed consent, right? Yeah, I gave consent that you could use my images, but I didn't think you would use it for that. And so I think when I say our thinking has evolved, that's what I mean. We didn't contemplate all the uses that facial recognition databases would be put to when we applied a Creative Commons license or uploaded a photo to Facebook. And you can debate whether that gives you any right to complain or not. That's a whole matter of opinion, but it certainly is something that if you had asked people in 2007, I don't think anyone without prodding would have volunteered the idea of, oh, right, someday there'll be facial recognition databases that will be used to violate my privacy. Maybe I won't, you know, put my photo up on Flickr for anybody to take. It just wasn't thought of that way. And honestly, as we get this large scale, right, you can't collect the amount of faces in the old way of doing it manually that you can by just scraping the web. That improves your data set, but it doesn't improve the accuracy of your metadata. It doesn't necessarily improve the accuracy of your algorithm because now you may have a tilted version because you scraped them from the web. You're only getting people who had access to the web and so they may not be as good at identifying the kinds of people who didn't have access to the web at the time that you scraped them. Scientists at MIT's Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory or CSAIL have developed a combination of deposition printers and laser cutters to instantly fabricate drones and robots. And they call it laser factory. Laser factory software lets a user design a device from a library of components with the ability to draw cut lines and also circuits. The laser factory then cuts out the parts, in some cases even handling folding parts, prints lines of silver for circuits, places components where they need to be, then laser cures the silver which results in a device that's ready for use. The video from CSAIL shows a drone taking off and flying immediately after being constructed. It flies. The key is a hardware assembly that includes ways to extrude silver and pick up and place objects. That assembly can be added to the head of a commercial laser cutter. The scientists want to improve the circuit training to allow for more complex and denser devices. And the team would also like to incorporate 3D printing. That's sort of the next step. Yeah, so you have to have some components on hand. This isn't 3D printing the drone. So there's some preparation, but it's a faster assembly, right? Yeah, I think it seems like a really interesting first step into a house factory kind of like you can almost have a little assembly line that is completely automated in your home if you want to or in your garage at least because yeah, you do need some parts that the machine can't do itself. Some of them are in the example of the drone. The propellers, for example, aren't made by the machine. One can imagine that at some point a 3D printer could do that, but there's also the motor is not made by the machine stuff like that. But it feels like it's essentially in the same way that a 3D printer is kind of a home, I don't know, carving device that you couldn't imagine before. This is kind of a home factory line that could construct more complex things than a 3D printer can. And the circuit tracing is really interesting. The folding of some parts is really interesting. When you kind of deconstruct what it does, it's a lot, I think it's a little bit more basic than you imagine when you think of the end result. But it's still really interesting and I'm very curious to see where it goes in the next few years. Yeah, compared to a science fiction movie, not that impressive. It's not in fact a replicator or anything like that. But it can do a lot more than just an automated assembly line. It can do some etching. It can do the deposition of the circuits. And just the fact that it knows how to grab the right parts and put them in the right place based on the software that you put it together, I mean, that's in advance too. I think, yeah, our natural tendency, certainly mine, is to be like, yeah, but what if you could print the entire thing? And the team's like, yeah, we'd like to get there too. But we think we've made it advance with what we got here. And it seems I don't think there's any reason they couldn't get there. And once you integrate into that assembly line, a 3D printing station, you really start doing interesting stuff even more. Yeah. I like the idea that you could just have a bucket of parts and this machine out in the field. And as you need more drones for like a search and rescue operation, just print them up. DoorDash has acquired chowbotics, mostly known for a salad making robot called Sally. How clever. That's the one that chooses ingredients from bins to assemble bowls of salad and other bowl-friendly items. DoorDash seems to intend to offer chowbotics to partner restaurants saying it will, quote, enhance our robust merchant offerings and logistics platform and, quote, it's potentially a nice add-on for so-called dark kitchens to speed up meal preparation. It's unclear if chowbotics will continue to operate as its own entity within DoorDash. Yeah, the version of chowbotics is kind of a vending machine looking thing. But to what I think you're about to say, Sarah, the whole dark kitchen thing could certainly benefit from it. Yeah, dark kitchen, ghost kitchen, the idea that there is a place somewhere that as a customer, even when restaurants open up again around the world, you don't go into. It just, food gets prepared there and then it's all made for delivery. Makes a lot of sense, especially because a salad, well, it depends on the salad, right? But many of them are like, get all the ingredients into one thing, shake it up, good to go. So it's perhaps some of the most assembly-lined food that's out there. So yeah, I think this is a pretty smart acquisition. Yeah, I'm fascinated by the idea that DoorDash, rather than trying to replace the restaurant or extend robotics into the delivery side and replace the driver is also, because I think they're probably doing both of that maybe, but also saying we could become a supplier of things that our clients, the restaurants, could use to make their product better. I think that's super smart. I mean, the long-term goal has to be, at least to some extent, just like Uber and Lyft and whoever, the holy grail for them is to have self-driving cars because you cut down costs significantly, right? Imagine if you can have self-making food. Well, that doesn't work as well, but robots that make the food. And of course, DoorDash is not the look of a sudden, I'm gonna say, we only sell you stuff that was made automatically, but if that's one option among the many restaurants that they will deliver from, their own auto-making sandwich or easy-to-prepare food down the line within a few years, I think they would like that very much and the acquisition of Childbotics makes sense in that context. Yeah, I mean, think of DoorDash as a platform, right? And the platform serves not just us, the people who eat the food, but also the restaurants. And if the restaurants see DoorDash as a partner that's gonna help them make their restaurant operation better, they're more likely to wanna use DoorDash than they are to fight against those high delivery fees and all that. Hey, folks, if you wanna join in the conversation in our Discord, you can talk about this and all kinds of other fun stuff with the folks there. Just link your Patreon account at patreon.com slash DTNS. Well, it's no secret, Twitter's been looking at subscription options. We've talked about it before on the show. They wanna diversify their revenue away from just advertising. The company has surveyed users about it and mentioned it on earnings calls. So yeah, they make money from ads, they make money from data analysis, but man, that's subscription revenue. That's sweet, sweet, never-expiring subscription revenue that just recurs. It's very tempting for Twitter. Bloomberg sources describe a few of the options Twitter is exploring. One possibility would be through what the report calls tipping, but as described as letting users pay for access to exclusive content, which doesn't sound like a tip, it just sounds like paying for content. Twitter would take a percentage of that, of course. Another would be to charge for a suite of power tools for users, possibly including a paid tier for TweetDeck. Twitter's past user surveys have also floated the idea of further profile customization.  Twitter's head of revenue products, Bruce Falk, said in a statement, quote, increasing revenue durability is our top company objective. He also added, we are still in very early exploration and we do not expect any meaningful revenue attributable to these opportunities in 2021. Well, okay, assuming that this isn't gonna happen this year, let's assume that it is going to happen. The whole unsend something sent, I have to assume would just apply to DMs if something hasn't been read and you're able to erase it before it's seen, because everyone knows, you delete a Tweet now, someone's already taken a screenshot, you're not saving anybody. You're certainly not saving yourself. Being able to edit a Tweet, that is a very popular and up until now ignored option. Twitter has done lots of things to evolve over the last decade plus, but editing Tweets has never been an option and a lot of people want that. I think a lot of people would pay for that. I would like other people to pay for that so that I don't always get the follow up Tweet 10 seconds later being like, God typo, I know how to type that, sorry. Just the first Tweet would have been fine or a Tweet that goes away and you're not sure why and then it shows up an hour later when they realize what mistake they've made or that they'd like to change the narrative a bit. Changing the narrative though, and Tom, this might be why you kind of disagree with me on a feature that people would pay for. Does start to hurt the way that Twitter threads work currently? Yeah, first of all, Dorsey said he's not going to do edits. They're not even mentioning it in the story. So editing a Tweet is just not going to happen. Like I've already resigned to myself even though I also would like it. But even if it was among those things that people that would be sold to people, I think people would be upset. People want to be able to edit a Tweet without having to pay for it. And I think Twitter is going to have more likelihood of success selling features to creators to publishers rather than to end users. In other words saying, all right, we'll give you not only analytics but we'll give you powerful Tweet Deck tools and all of this sort of stuff to make the things that you post on Twitter more rich and varied. Maybe editing is part of that. But then I think that upsets people if it's only given to people who pay and not to people who don't. But I think they have to focus on the creation and they could probably sell subscriptions for content creators versus paying, getting people to like pay for, I don't know, minor updates or consumption related things. Yeah, I mean, within Twitter itself, let's say I follow a journalist. This is hypothetical, I follow a journalist and this journalist often breaks stories that are really interesting to me but often those links go to something behind a paywall of sorts. Well, I may pay for that eventual place where the story lives. But if I had an opportunity to keep it within Twitter if for whatever reason that was just the way that I was digesting the news and that person could still be compensated and feel like, hey, this is a place where I've built up a really good audience. This is a more frictionless option for them. I can see if you got a big enough audience. Again, that's the key part of this, it being lucrative. Yeah, I wonder if that would break the format of Twitter though because if you're going to be tipping someone actually paying money, you don't want just, you know, 280 characters analysis of anything, I don't think. You would need something a little bit more meaty. I guess people already do threads, Twitter threads. So maybe there's a way of incorporating that into a longer but it seems like you would need at least a little bit of text or some video or something to be worth tipping for. And I wonder how coherent that is with the product that Twitter is. Well, Twitter recently acquired review, the newsletter company. So I think there's some kind of integration there that could allow for paywall content. I don't think they should call it tipping. I think it's great if they already, if they set up a way for you to pay creators for other things, make tipping an option like an actual tipping of like, I just wanted to give you a dollar because I really enjoy your tweets. Like, I think that's fine. Don't call paying for access to exclusive content. Tipping, please though. I would prefer just me. The Financial Times sources say that TikTok told investors it is ready new e-commerce features in the US. This would include letting popular users automatically earn commissions on shared product links as well as host live streamed shopping where users can buy products featured in the stream without having to leave the app. TikTok launched a similar live stream shopping event in partnership with Walmart late last year. You might remember we talked about it here on this show. And TikTok will supposedly also let brands show catalogs and place their own ads online rather than through a sales representative. Yeah, this makes sense. Duyan already does this in China, which is also owned by ByteDance. It's essentially the version of TikTok that operates in China. So why wouldn't they try to make it launch here and expand their e-commerce offerings? Makes perfect sense. Yeah, I agree. Researchers, I was like, Patrick, in your silence, I felt you nodding. Researchers at the University of Maryland in the US have created transparent wood. Yes, people, you heard me right. That's better insulating than glass is and could make an energy efficient building material in future construction. The researchers brushed a solution of hydrogen peroxide onto a one meter long and one millimeter thick wood plank with a paintbrush, kind of simple stuff. Although the wood does have to be pretty thin. When left in the sun or under a UV lamp for an hour, at least an hour, the wood turned white. Then after brushing a coat of hydrogen peroxide on that opaque wood material and another hour of light exposure, it turned transparent. They then coated the wood with a tough transparent epoxy designed for marine use to harden the wood, fill in spaces, fill in pores, make it sturdy. At this point, 90% of visible light was still passing through and the wood then looked like glass still though with the strength and flexibility of wood. Yeah, as I read it, it was the hydrogen peroxide made it white and then they infused it with the epoxy which made it transparent, which blows my mind that you could just do this in your backyard, right? Like you could just, essentially, if you have the right epoxy and some hydrogen peroxide, you could make windows out of wood. Now, like you said, they do have to be fairly thin to really be transparent, but the pictures in the CBC article we saw, you can see right through it at a leaf like granted. It's thin, but it's probably still more insulating than glass. Yeah, it's 90%, I mean, it's not entirely transparent. You know, 90%, I'm sure in the Middle Ages would have been incredible. Nowadays, 90% is not like you can see it changes the view that you have from the outside. So I don't think it can completely replace glass also. One, you know, I'm in Finland and it's very cold. I suspect one millimeter thick wood will not do much for, so I think it will have, it's the kind of thing that can have very specific uses that will be awesome, but it's not like, oh, this can replace glass, right? It's specific types of places that can make use of it. And for that, it will be great.  It sounds like the epoxy is the extremely important part because yes, as sturdy as wood may be when you're talking a millimeter of wood, it's, I mean, glass is thicker than that oftentimes. Then again, I've got non-double-paned glass in my little apartment and boy, is it cold. I would like another alternative. Yeah, this is not a big two by four that you could make transparent. I have to keep reminding myself of that because I'm like, just build a house with wood and then just paint the windows where you want them. It doesn't quite work that way. Yet, yet. Yet, yet. Well, and the CBC article does a great job of explaining how, you know, the peroxide bleaches all the brown stuff. That's why it turns white. And then the epoxy kind of moves in and makes sure that the lignin part of the wood stays, but kind of fills in the spaces so that light isn't bouncing around off the lignin. It can transit all the way through and that's what makes it transparent. It's really fascinating. Thanks to Allison Sheridan who brought the story to our attention.  Thank you. Keep them coming. And if you have great stories that might, you think it'd be great to be on DTNS or you've got questions and comments about anything that we talk about, feedback at dailytechnewshow.com is where to send those emails. We'd like to shout out patrons at our master and our grandmaster levels. Today, they include Michelle Serju, Johnny Hernandez and David Mosher. Thanks to Patrick Beja for being with us. Patrick, it has been too darn long. Besides keeping warm, what's been going on with you? I tried to keep warm. You know, the Phileas Club is always something that I enjoy doing and plugging. 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Welcome to Digital Asset News to get top stories and cryptocurrency digital assets, now break down to bite-sized pieces. So today the big question that I keep getting or we keep getting is really twofold is, is the bull run coming to an end? Are we going to enter into a bear cycle? And should I keep dollar cost averaging? And there's a couple of different factors. And what I want to do was bring in CJ Rykel from Market Rebellion. CJ, thanks for coming out again. Just to take a look at some technicals and also to take a look at the macro to see where we are at and where we are going. So CJ, again, thanks so much for coming in. I appreciate your time as you're in lovely Puerto Rico as everybody else seems to be going to. So thanks for coming by. Yeah, I really appreciate you having me. It's a pleasure always to be on the channel. And those are really legitimate concerns. Is the bull market over how far in the bull market are we? And I think that last question that you mentioned about, should I stop dollar cost averaging? It depends on each individual's goals, right? Rob and I do not have, we probably have different levels of risk tolerance and goals when it comes to how we want to plan for the future of our finances, etc. So with that in mind, let's just keep that in mind while we go through the analysis here. But I think the first thing to understand about where we are in the market cycle is to understand how the stock to flow model has modeled scarcity in Bitcoin's history and has been so accurate at timing where the market cycle is getting much overheated and where it's probably a good time to start taking some off the table. So the stock to flow model is based around the halving cycles and each halving cycle occurs when we reach this purple color right here. So we had our most recent halving in May of 2020. And now we've gone ever since. As you can see, this is essentially where we were at in 2017, where we are in our current cycle. So we were at a price of roughly $1,000 or closer to maybe $2,000. That would be our equivalent of where we are now relative to where we were in the 2017 cycle. So I think the thing that's most compelling about this is that we may not even be at the next bear market low that would occur hypothetically in 2024 or 2025 in a macro market cycle. So that's very interesting and that's partially what leads me to believe that we're not even close to the end of the bull market cycle. We are probably about halfway to 60%. I see us really where I plan to take capital off the table and scale out is when we start reaching this green period of time or essentially when we become 800 days or roughly a thousand days until the next Bitcoin block halving. So that's a very general principle. A lot of people are looking at this in the space and are all making decisions based on this one model. So I think that it's very important and very important to understand when allocating capital in the crypto space. Just like you said, a lot of people are looking into this and probably going to do the same thing. So when we did our TA intro, we talked about how everybody's looking at the same thing. When you have the same group thing, even if it's right or wrong, it still happens. And you don't have to really know it or second guess yourself. You're like, well, that's what everybody else is looking at. This is what's going to happen. You can go against the grain, but sometimes it's just like, well, everybody else is seeing the same thing. So sure. And what's interesting about this one is that like you talked about right now, Bitcoin's price stays. It's May 4th, I think. It's around $56,000, $57,000. So you're saying that in the next bull run or the next bear market where it's going to drop down, maybe in 2022 at some point, you think it's going to be above $56,000, maybe at a $70,000, $75,000. Who knows? If we look at it and how we played out in our last cycle, and there's actually merit to why this could be like a potential super cycle, I know Dan Held has wrote a lot about the potential super cycle. I still want to play it conservatively because you don't have to sell the perfect top to make money. As long as you're in early and you've seen this market play out, I still think there's a lot of opportunity left. But like you said, Rob, our equivalent of where we were last cycle is probably about $1,000 or $1,500, and that would be pretty much the same price in relative terms as our current. Yet when we fell down, we went to $3,000, which was twice the amount we were at relative to our current point. So what I'm saying is that we may not even retrace like $100K in the next bear market. So it's going to be very interesting, especially based on this chart. Yeah, so real quick, let me share something with everybody. I'm going to share a screen. So what CJ was just talking about is exactly correct. This is the same thing that I talk about. He uses stock to flow. I just use a little basic model when I talk about the halving, all-time high dips and resets. This is in 2012 and 2015. Same thing happened in 2016, 2017. Same different thing, right? But the one thing to notice is that in 2020, 2021, when we're out right now, I think on all honesty that we are right slab dab in the middle. Let me show you. Yeah, so this is essentially taking a look back at 2017. And if you're investing right now, I always think the best time is when it's boring as hell and nothing's really going on and we're in a bear market, a dollar cost average. The second best time is, I think it's right here. So look at July 2017. I mean, we're only in May. So we're actually down here somewhere. So what CJ is saying is that at this price point, I think the bitcoin is around $2,025. And then I want it to like, I think around here was around $5,000. Right around here was $3,000. So in July, August, sometime around there, that's when, if you look at the models, this is where it could be. Now it doesn't guarantee future success or our future duplicity. But if we take a look at them, it could be what it is. So that's how I see it. And that's the big question as far as like, well, should I stop dollar cost averaging? Because what if it goes down right now? It's at $56,000. What if it goes on a $35,000? Well, if you dollar cost average, it kind of doesn't make sense. But maybe it does go up to $75,000. So that part, I got you. Makes sense. What else do we got to go over? Well, you brought up Bitcoin dominance and how the capital flow in the space has sort of changed throughout market cycles. And so this goes more in depth than just Bitcoin. This has to do with how I position myself in altcoins and how I think you should think about the altcoin market as we progress further on in the bull market cycle. So what I have outlined here is a chart of Bitcoin's percentage of the overall cryptocurrency market cap. So I think we're at like over two trillion now. You know, Bitcoin is just under 50%. But as you can see, in the bear market of both 2015, 2016, and then of course, in 2018 and 2019, that is when ideally it would have been most profitable, not profitable, but it would have been the best to be in Bitcoin relative to all the other altcoins because they were all bleeding capital very, very highly. And Bitcoin was the best at preserving capital. But as you can see, right as we entered the heart of the bull market, and this was the ICO mania in 2016, Bitcoin dominance just dropped off of a cliff and went all the way down to a low of like 30%. And simultaneously, we actually had the inverse occurring in Ethereum dominance. So Ethereum during the max and the heights of the ICO bubble, we actually had a Ethereum dominance that consisted of 30% of the overall market cap. And so you can see that the exact same thing is happening. People are building on Ethereum, DeFi and all of those interesting projects are actually coming to fruition and getting people really excited about the space. And I think the primary difference between where we were back here and where we are now is that all of those projects were, you know, just future promises, they're saying, Oh, we're going to do this, we're going to do innovation, you know, and now we actually have real DeFi projects delivering with amazing interesting stuff like yield farming. And it's just very exciting how capital is moving in the space. But as you can see, back to the Bitcoin dominance, this is really showing us that we're accelerating into more of the heart of the bull market based on the fact that Bitcoin dominance is dropping. I expect to continue to drop and go far below its previous low at 36%. Because I think there's more capital in the space ever before. And the exponential gains that are going to provide the five to 10, 20 or even 50X are likely going to be found in smaller altcoin projects and DeFi projects, as opposed to Bitcoin, which may be the safer play. But when we model it out, it's looking like 200K, which would roughly be three or four X. So the exponential really speculative gains I see are still found in the altcoin market. And that's represented when people have Bitcoin, they hold it throughout the bear market. And then once they get profit in that, when the bull market starts, they start to transfer assets and take those profits and put them into more speculative risk on assets like DeFi and like other things throughout the Ethereum and Binance chain ecosystem. And before we go on, this is just all investment opinion. This is not investment advice, entertainment purposes only, all that good stuff. Like you still have to do your own research. This all looks good. There's a lot of information out there that you have to take a look at. This is just your starting point. That is for sure. So that is the big thing. Hey, CJ, you show me a quick slide about how things move into from Bitcoin. Can you show that or you can't show that? I'll show it. Because this doesn't have to do a lot with strategy, but it essentially is a nice diagram of what I was just talking about. When do you show this and who do you show this to as your intro? Yeah, so this is a little bit about of our investment strategy and how we look at a lot of assets in the space when it comes to how capital flows. And essentially what we saw historically, and we're actually starting to see less and less of this because we're seeing initial capital not come into assets like Bitcoin. We're seeing initial capital from first time retail investors start to come into things like Dogecoin. But this model is still pretty accurate for the most part in the sense of how capital flows throughout the space. We either have capital coming in from Bitcoin or Ethereum at the start of the cycle. These are high beta assets. And then once those gains are sort of recognized in the beginning of the bull market cycle, when we have that initial run to 20k to 30 and 40k, we saw a lot of those assets then transfer to Ethereum and go into the moderate beta and high beta assets. And ultimately flow into ignition assets, which are things that you'll find on like Uniswap or Binance Chain and very high risk on assets that have done like 20x and things of that sort. But generally, once the bear market comes, all of those speculative gains have a tendency to flow back into both Bitcoin and then both into Ethereum. Go ahead, Rob. So I was going to say, I always call Bitcoin the gateway crypto, but it seems like more and more we're looking into a Dogecoin, but more specifically an Ethereum, because when you put an Ethereum, you can go to Uniswap and get whatever you want to depending on even where your countries are. But when you talk about these large cap assets, where it goes from Ethereum to moderate beta to large cap assets, you're talking about Ethereum to like a chain link, a V-chain, something in the top 30, right? Yes. Well, a large cap asset, I would consider anything over 5 billion in total market cap. And then it flows from there to like these really small ones like chain games and stuff you see in like the top 300, 400 market cap, but like way far down because there's a lot of gains to be had. I think just like in 2017, I mean, if you invested into Bitcoin 1,000, you know, hey, you 20X at the very end, good for you. But if you would invest it into something like small, small caps, I mean, take your pick of whatever it is, everything just flowed in there and you could have done 100, 200, 300X. Again, investment opinion, not investment advice, and that's how I see things.  But if you, you can also use Binance Chain, PancakeSwap, used on their smart platform to get other types of assets. And there's one that just came about which I will be doing a video on. It's called ZeroSwap or, yeah, the zero exchange. And what they do is they use Ethereum, Avalanche, and who's the other one that they use? They use three, Binance. Yeah, this one. And so with this one, I think this could be the actual next big dex and the next big coin. And it's like rank number 400. So if you're into utility, this is the one to go to. This one and probably Swissborg, because they're going to have a major announcement today, but I don't know what it is. So yeah, figure it out. I had flashed through the disclaimer here, financial advice by Market Rebellion or digital asset news. However, I have a position in zero. I'm very excited. I've been using this exchange. I think the swaps and the ability to go cross chain is absolutely revolutionary because users on Uniswap, you know, you have to deal with the Ethereum gas fees. It can be difficult to get out of certain positions, but with zero, there are certain things that say a trader who only uses Binance chain uses, there are certain assets on Uniswap or other dexes that use Ethereum, but they want to access, but they have to still deal with those Ethereum fees. But through zero and using a cross chain decentralized exchange bridge, those fees are virtually eliminated. So this is a huge revolution. And I think zero has got a very promising future in store for it. Yeah, exactly. So I don't have a position yet, but I will after this video. So if you are going to buy in, just know I'll dump on you. Not just kidding, but do your own research and all that good stuff. So I think we answered the two big questions today. Is the bull on over? I don't think it is. Just taking a look at the stock to flow model and then what's going to happen, Bitcoin, Ethereum and Binance chain flowing just through smaller caps and even micro caps. And then should I keep DCing and Bitcoin and Ethereum? This is a question that I have to ask myself all the time. And to me, just like CJ said, it depends on your goals, right? How big is your risk tolerance? Do I want to start to sell off some of my Bitcoin and put it into smaller caps? Well, I could if I'm one of those people who likes to really push the envelope, but it's risky and you have to think yourself, do I really want to make it this year, right now, 2021? Or do I want to do something like this? Let me just show you. We can all, I mean, not we can all, I can make it pretty well. Seven dollar cost averaging since 2017. And I've been doing it the whole time. I'm not the business losing money. However, if I want to just go, you know what? I still like the position. I still like the teams. I still like what's going on. I'm just going to keep repeating this cycle until 2025. And just maybe get out a little bit and maybe keep dollar cost averaging a little bit more. And tell the bear market, like I've always said, I'm going to sell 80% of my alts, 50% of my Bitcoin, get back in and just keep dollar cost averaging. So it's up to you to decide for yourself to do your own research. Do I want to get as rich as I possibly can right now and do my original things? Or do I want to say, you know what?  Because again, this is one of the monies made, in my opinion, when it's boring as heck, nothing going on. Anyhow, that's what I got. Yeah, maybe not just the pouring, maybe you should add depressing. It is depressing when you see your net worth go, wow, I'm a genius. And all of a sudden you're like, what the heck just happened? So anyhow, that's what we got. So CJ, any last words of advice before we wrap it up today? You know, I just think it's important to understand your own goals and to be, you know, responsible, whether if you have dependence, like myself personally, like I'm one of those guys who's taking, like jumping full in when it comes to risk, because I have extra time, you know, but I'm helping my dad in cryptocurrency as well, you know, he's new to the space and he has different goals because he has the last time to make that money. So we're playing things a little bit more conservative on that front. But yeah, that's all I would say is just manage risk and never put yourself in a position where you can have a permanent infinite loss. Exactly. And then so there's one side of that coin, the other side is something like me, late 40s, kids and grandkids, you just look into just to make sure that you do the right thing. So you can actually get in a little bit and, you know, get them ahead in life. And then of course, there's the other side, which is, you know, 60s, 70s, 80s.  It really just depends on what you want to do right now or later. So again, everybody's goals different, your goals are not my goals or CJ's goals. Make sure it's ready to improve and do your own research. All right, thanks so much for watching. We appreciate your thumb value. Give it a thumbs up, like it, subscribe, all that great stuff. And we'll see you on the next one. Thanks.