Hello and welcome to the session my name is Mansi and I am going to help you with the following question. The question says a cubicle box has each edge 10 cm and another cuboidal box is 12.5 cm long, 10 cm wide and 8 cm high. First part is which box has the greater lateral surface area and by how much and second part is which box has the smaller total surface area and by how much. Let us start with the solution. We see the solution to the first part first of all. We see that the lateral this length with this we can denote this vital dash that is of cubicle box is 10 to be 12 for the cuboidal box. Breadth is given to be 10 cm, 10 cm so we simply put in the values here and then we compare the two. So let us see the lateral surface area of cubicle box. This will be final lateral surface area of cuboidal box that will be equal to twice of now length plus breadth would be cm square. So lateral surface area of cubicle box is 400 cm square and lateral surface area of cuboidal box is 360 cm square. When we compare these two we see that lateral surface area of cubicle box is greater and it is more by 400 minus 360 that is 40 cm square. Let us write down the answer to the first part that is lateral surface part of the question. Now let us see the answer to the second part of the question that the value of L dash is 10 cm from the earlier part. So that is equal square that is equal to 600 cm square into breadth plus breadth equal to 80 plus 12 written 10 cm square. So we see that the total surface area of cuboidal cm square. So this was our solution to this question. I hope that you understood the question and enjoyed the session. Have a good day.


Hello and welcome back here to the channel. I'm evil rabbit and we are here for the big Carpack drop so if you guys like the cinematic in the beginning miss you guys follow drift snacks I'll leave his link down in the description box below big Thank you to him for making the cinematics possible for this video and this drop of these car pack the street car Pack that's been much anticipated so with that being said Let's get into some of the cars and the first car on the block is that beautiful BRZ STI Definitely an amazing car will become slowly my favorite new car with the real drive converted street power and Amazing gurgling sound. It's definitely a great addition to the street cars that are out here And it's a big car that is not really out there in many car packs So super excited for this BRZ and can't wait for you guys to get your hands on it and give it a shot The next car that we have on the block in the car pack is a car you guys have seen before in Another version that is my s15 street car this time the car is downtuned to under 400 horsepower Street physics grippy tires Definitely a staple that I wanted to put into the car pack as well to give of course the Nissan feel of the car Pack and that JDM style so that's why the s15 is in the pack again So the third car that is in this pack is part of that flippy boy gang the Corolla It's definitely was something I wanted to put in as a staple of traditional street style drifting and the Corolla You know hatched the Corolla Cube all of them. It's a big staple in the drifting community So the Corolla skier. It's definitely amazingly fun little car light little go-kart and definitely a great addition to this street car pack So the next car that is in the pack is a basically a 350 z you guys know my love of z's I've had a few z's the missile z and everything. This is a street z Basically clean z on wheels and suspension with a bucket seat in it something that people would be if they had a z And are just starting out drifting so I figured street style z how it would be if you actually just started out driving So that's why this z is styled the way it is and put into this pack because a street Z is something everybody starts drifting on if they get their hands on The next car that we are rocking of course is another car you guys have seen that street 13 that everybody became Loving in the first pack brought it back into this pack Just like the 15 down tuned to under four reverse power with grippier tires street style car It's definitely a staple in the JDM drift gang with the s13 and all the sylvias in drifting So that's why this 13 is hitting up this pack as well The next car that in in the pack of the eight cars that we have is that beautiful r33 skyline This was a car that was brought into the pack because of drift snacks my buddy Chris He was wanting one of these cars, so I'm like let's make a street style car So it is a basically a street tuned r33. It does have a cage in it But factory interior and everything of that lines the beautiful skyline behind the skyline Definitely great cinematic style the next car that is going to be in the pack is a s14 You can't have all these s chassis's without an s14. This is an rb powered s14 Definitely a very simple style car, you know factory interior just a little over fenders and you know a different hood and You know standard wheels something you would see people rocking in a drift event or a local event and Drifting on the streets, so that's why that's here. The next car is Definitely a curveball for you guys that starion that Mitsubishi starion wanted to add a secondary Flippy boy gangs, so that's why the starion is here So I hope you guys are enjoying all these cars, and I hope you guys enjoy the look of all these cars I hope you guys are enjoying when you get your hands on them all that information is coming up So with the car pack drop and the cinematic video, which I hope you guys enjoyed a big Thank you to my buddy Chris or drift snacks here for doing all the cinematic recording for me to make that Possible if you guys definitely enjoyed that cinematic just to just to bump Nate that cinematic video of the release Well, I just straight line that make sure you guys check out drift snacks channel I will leave his link down in the description box below show him some love drop him a sub and You know spread the love for cinematics because cinematics is something that is very big and do Appreciate all the work you put into the making that drop video what it was so There's a couple other things that are coming with this big drop not only the street cars Which you guys have seen and now you're seeing now which are absolutely amazing when it comes to grip and power Under 300 400 horsepower about 380 horse each So there will be now the discord server that you all have been waiting for and I've been talking about is Now public the link to join the discord is down in the description box below To make sure you join my evil rabbit crew discord the links for all the cars as well as the track Will be in the download section of the discord now That is because we go into a stalling cars We go into we're just having a little bit fun here You know all the time that these guys have spent with me over the past two months getting these cars set up Everything you know we have a has to blow off a little steam and it involves a little door banging wrecking no big deal So you will need to be downloading all the cars not only to try and for yourself But also to hop into the official 24 7 evil rabbit tandem server Which if you search in content manager you search evil rabbit you will find it It's up there. We are gonna be running it here in the beginning at clutch kicker So I will leave the link for the track also in the download server link of the discord So make sure you guys join the discord join the crew join the fun and hop in the server and you know Get stuck it in sideways because The three of us that are here. We're gonna be watching I got We're gonna be taking in coming in doing doors with you guys will be watching to see who Wants to be part of the street crew and the street team of the official evil rabbit street team because we're gonna be looking for New drift talent here to start upping the team So make sure you join discord make sure you follow all the links download all the links and everything in discord and all the rules of the discord channel, but The biggest thing is these cars and these cars are Beautifully done and beautifully handling and we've had a lot of fun making them I've had a lot of great and positive rally car things because it's a Subaru great positive feedback from everybody who's tried the cars and Love absolutely love the handling as you can see they are pretty grippy in the front and with the low power the street tuned style They're a lot closer to home for a lot of people So I know my other cars have been higher powered So I wanted to make this street style cars that are a little closer to home for other drivers and things of that nature and a street server is A good server to have because if you can start drifting in a street car You can just start slowly bumping up powers and get into Pro style cars or pro pro and pro 2 style cars, you know up six seven hundred horsepower or even higher So make sure you guys go into discord download everything hop in the server have some fun with everybody else on today The big release day of the cars the server the discord and everything the anticipation for these cars has been Extremely high and I'm hoping you guys love them as much as we do because we've had a lot of fun Making these cars getting them to handle how they do and doing all the cinematics and everything for you guys So make sure you guys follow me on all social media all which file the description box below Make sure you check out drift next channel as well as subscribe to my channel because if you're not subscribed to this channel And you're seeing this video What are you doing because you're here for a reason so why not stay here hit that sub button hit that Notification button so that you can be part of the evl notification gang So as always I thank you guys for coming back and watching. 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Welcome to Toffy TV, and to you all by Adam Jones from the Liverpool Echo, Evan Correspondence. So we'd just have a little chat about what was it, a bisec season for a number of reasons. It was actually talking to someone out for some food with a couple of people yesterday and we were just going through what had actually happened in the season and it was like bisec. It's not quiet is it? Never quiet. I just think you just kept adding on top and going, I'll remember that or something like that. It seemed to be the perfect storm for relegation that season. I think that's probably the perfect way to sum it up isn't it? There was just so much going against Evan that he just fell into all of the right traps. I suppose he brought the wrong manager in at the start of the season. The players went playing for that manager when it came to the crux in the season in the middle. We had all of the VAR controversies, the played into it as well, injuries to key players. The played into it all as well. It did come to a point in the season where I was thinking to myself, If we got out of this we would have done better. But fair play. I still don't think it was perfect towards the end of the season at all. There were still injuries and VAR and stuff like that. I think the way everybody at the club knitted it together towards the latter stages of the season from fans, players, coaching staff, everybody else who works at the club as well who encouraged all of that at the end of the season as well. It's got a lot of credit. It's got to go to that. Let's just have a quiet one next season please. I've been moaning about mid-table. I've been mid-table in no fears of going down or anything. It's been saying it's boring but I'll take a boring season. Just on the injury thing, do you find it? I find it really maddening that it is kind of just skated over. It's like Everton with rubbish as well. Let's have it right.  Players didn't perform the managers were poor, whatever, whatever, whatever. But the injuries, I hear other teachers for leads, no Bamford, no Phillips. These didn't have them to players. If you go through Everton's injury, we had everybody injured. We had the whole spine out for months and months. I think we ended up with 44 injuries which was more than anyone else. Do you think that is a big contributing factor to where Everton were as well as the rest of the stuff going on? I'm not trying to make excuses but how big a part are you thinking injuries played in it? I think it's got to play a crucial part hasn't it really? I mean especially when you just consider the injuries to two players. For example Calvert Lewin, I would say the player who scored 20 odd goals for us the season before. He's made your focal point of the team and instantly he's gone for four months. Obviously that kind of hampered him for the rest of the season as well. That injury kind of led to other little knocks. What have you for the next few months? He was just desperate to get himself back to full fitness and just pushing himself a little bit too hard. Then yet he made it as well. On his day is Everton's best centre back. For the majority of the season I think he only played 25% of the minutes for Everton last season which is crucial isn't it? Take any other team's best centre back out of the team for 75% of the season. They're going to play worse. I mean I don't know what you say. There were a lot of mythogating factors that contributed to Everton's season. To be fair I don't think you can look past the injuries because especially the fact they just came up with the worst times as well. D'Corey was getting injured. Alan got more injured. You could go through everybody in the squad. I think literally everybody got injured at some point. It is hard because as you say you don't want to make excuses in a sense. That was certainly a big contributing factor. That's got to be, I think the man that he did the lead to this did near the end of the season so he'll get more robust players. That's got to be surely where he's at. It's no surprise that you're looking at James Tarkovski in that sense isn't it? Because his injury record over the past few years has been pretty... It's been pretty strong over the past few years so you'd hope that that is maybe playing into their thinking a little bit somebody who's just going to be a reliable presence at the back and obviously it helps that he's a really good defender as well. I think his skill on the ball is a little bit underrated as well. He's showing that he can play in a three-man defence as well as just a four at the back as well which I think is probably promising considering we don't really know what sort of system Lampard and Thelwell are going to play going forwards. I would suggest it probably will be a four at the back. It's good to be flexible isn't it? It's no surprise to me that Tarkovski must be right at the top of the list. Yeah, I mean if anything can get him in quickly and he looks, you know, all the reports around it and the noise around it and the confidence that they've won the race so it will be good to start off with that. What did you make of Frank Lampard? Because I still feel like there's a few different things about him and there's always like a negative undertow with it and I don't understand it because Stephen Gerrard, I've said this before, has been held up as doing an unbelievable job of fillering and yet almost setting the record similar or Lampard is actually better. I know going into the last few games Lampard was better. It might have flipped slightly because Filly got a couple of wins at the end but do you think he's been harshly judged by? I know he hasn't been perfect and he was. Did make some errors at the start but all. I'm not sure if he makes mistakes don't be. But I feel fine that it's time so far. I do feel like he's been rather harshly judged and I'm not sure it's necessarily because of what he's done at Everton. I do think it's because of the profile that he has in the past. If you compare him to Gerrard, he's never had a job like the Chelsea job and he's never been sacked from a job like the Chelsea job either so I think maybe in terms of a national sense that's still playing on some people's minds when they think of Lampard, they think to themselves oh well you only had that one season at Darby and then he got sacked by Chelsea so how good is he really? That thing, he's took everything from 16 to 16. That's just the way the other teams look at it isn't it? You've just got to hope that in the future he'll absolutely prove them wrong. Evertonians know just how good he's been. I was just saying to somebody earlier in the week he's just such an intelligent manager and I think he shows that not just in terms of his coaching sense he does still have improvements to make but young manager he's going to have to make these improvements but I think he's just intelligent in the way he presents himself the way he addresses supporters the way he seems to address his players as well the way he just carries himself around the club he's somebody who just carries himself with a certain amount of respect for everything around him he's under no illusions about how big Everton are as a club and you get that every time that you speak to him he just really seems to have a passion for football and a passion for wanting... he wants to prove himself of course but he wants to get Everton away from this end of the table as well so I think that's really promising to see and those are the kind of positive aspects that you really need to focus on at the end of the day. Definitely, I mean have you found them as the analyst in terms because obviously you've spoken to the last few managers we've had and Carlo probably not as close as he wanted to because of Covid but have you found dealing with Lampard so far? To be fair I think it was the same with Benitez as well Benitez never had an in-person press conference either it was all still the Covid thing so again it's hard to get a gauge on when you're doing it through a laptop it's tough but with Lampard... Rephrase it, have you found Frank? He's just a lovely guy he's just a down to earth lovely fella and again it sounds simple to say but he's just got so much time for your questions and I think what I really like about him as well especially over the last few months he's had to deal with a lot of tough questions perhaps regarding the club's financial situation or with Vitaly Michalenco and his situation with Ukraine there's a lot of tough questions that have been put his way and the Chelsea situation as well but what I like about him is that he's big enough to go I'm not really clued up on this situation enough so I'm not comfortable enough to give an answer and again that's simple but that's just perfect it's just addressing you like you're a person to a fan watching that you're thinking alright well he's addressing me like like I'm just... I've found that I think a lot of managers don't realise but they maybe forget that when they're in those press conferences they're not only talking to you, they're talking to the fans and I think that's something he's done really well cos like someone like Marco Silvery I still think he's a good coach and he's done well just was never able to engage properly he was very closed I think with Silvery from my dealings with him I think there was a certain... I don't know whether he was just nervous in front of the camera but there was a definite difference between him when he was on camera and then we'd have separate conversations with him afterwards without the broadcast and he was just so much more danceware and relaxed and he would open up a little bit more I do remember like asking him a couple of questions he just loved talking tactics my house over so like if you ask him a tactical question you know you've got him for five minutes he's just going to talk on in a similar way Lampard is in that sense if you ask him a question about something really specific then he will just like he'll go and he'll give you his honest thought about it as well which is somewhat of a rarity in modern football these days just to have someone speak so openly and honestly with you is really promising so fingers crossed I'm working with him for a long time hopefully because that I think more than anything we need that stability because that's being key what do you think this summer then obviously we know there's financial restraint of course we do we're probably going off the sell one of our big players but that's just the nature of the game what do you think looking forward to next season in terms of what Everton after trying to do in this transfer window you can't flip half a squad you just can't do it as much as we probably would love to we can't do it so when you're looking at Everton transfer targets what are you hoping to see come through the door you don't have to name specific players but what are you hoping the type of player is going in the profile of that kind of player I think you've just got a prioritiser haven't you and I suppose it's maybe hard to judge when you don't know which players are potentially going to be leaving the club Midfield for instance Midfield certainly I would suggest a defensive midfielder I would suggest some of these capable of picking up the ball from the centre back carrying it and distributing it properly I think Lewis Warrington might be that player in the future but whether he's Premier League ready as of yet I'm not sure about that I think Fabian Delph is really good at that but obviously you've got concerns over his fitness he's out of contract now do you offer him a new contract I'll say for you're at them though it has to be massively reduced terms I would suggest he's the kind of interest and player that I'm thinking that if you put in priorities of where Everton are desperate for additions if you've got Delph there and you can guarantee that he's going to play a certain amount of games then you're maybe not as desperate in that position as you are in other positions but as I say the problem is you can't guarantee that I do think that probably defensive midfield has to become a priority just because of that centre back is another really interesting one because you've just got to presume that somebody somebody's going to leave there the next one maybe is going to leave there so even if Tarkovsky does come in I would argue that another centre back probably would be something that I'd personally be looking at Carl Willsbyn mentioned that he's only young but I think he'd be a fantastic from what I've seen of him at Hosefield I think he'd be a fantastic addition I think we have that at some stage you've got to move a wifer and develop on other people's players but when you're getting them and you've got an option on them then by all means bring them in and say like this is what we're doing but you're right to get them in you're talking probably a couple of our centre backs going on I mentioned Mina before I love Jerry Mina but eleven, twelve games a season you just can't rely on it well it's a similar situation to Delford probably not as extreme but you can't rely on them can you and then if one of the forwards goes you've got to replace them with probably two players not just one let's say if a childsome was to go who would you turn to in that sense I've seen a lot of links towards someone like Maxwell Cornyn he's got a relegation clause as a like for like that's a massive downgrade really isn't it it's been mentioned a bit over the last couple of days but he's another one nice footballer but he's giving you a bit of a challenge well exactly so again it's one of them where Brennan Johnson's been linked as well as he's from Nottingham Forest he's a very exciting player of course to replace for Charles and I think is a big step isn't it so that's why you've probably got to look at even if Calvin Leung was to go I think you'd be in a similar situation so you've got to be looking at two players to replace one of them can they recruit in the right way can they use this money in the right sort of fashion and I think that becomes obviously the next big test for Lampard and Thelwell isn't it to have this sort of strategy in place to have these right profiles of players ready as you say somebody who's going to give their all for the team etc etc have those right sort of profiles of players and then be able to actually acquire them as well it's going to be a tough sort of one you've got to have the confidence that they can see it we've got to have seen a lot of and rightly so people you'd say that people are more than justified in saying things like don't trust the club if we sell down to replace them with the Charles but you've got to it's a new regime I guess in terms of Thelwell and Lampard we've got to have the trust because we can't really do anything about it other than we have to build on this little bit of unity we managed to forge at the end of the season going forward people like Connor Gallagher's being mentioned being a fantastic sign for everyone but how much would he cost and all that but everyone could get someone like that just on moving forward obviously we're coming into well we're not yet but next season how do you think the club or the fans can continue what happened at the end of the season because it's so pivotal to what we did that I almost feel like we have to maintain that somehow and it won't be quite at the same level because I think a lot of people would just like I've got to do this because I've got to play me part we might be losing the club into the champions here but seeing the reaction and the way it affected the players and seeing the results do you feel like we have to do almost for the home games keep that coach welcome going even if it's on a smaller scale I suppose it's interesting isn't it I thought we saw it in a similar sense probably in a smaller sense but we saw it in a similar sense when we first introduced the sire just before Zeid cars that obviously became a regular thing because it did lift the crowd at that point but I feel like that kind of it's effect kind of waned a little bit just because everybody was expecting it in terms of coach welcomes I just don't think I think if you keep doing them even on a smaller scale I just think they kind of lose their they lose their effectiveness in a weird way so it's going to be really interesting to see obviously the club and where the fans go with this the addition of all the banners that are on display like flags and banners they're all fantastic they do have a major effect in sort of helping the atmosphere as well but I'm going to be intrigued to see where these fan groups and the club themselves kind of take this forward and I think at the heart of it is that just continued communication we saw some really good examples of it over the past few months between members of the club and the fan base just coming together and really improving the atmosphere of Goddison Park for those last few games so if they can continue that communication then I'm sure they'll come up with something because as you say it was vital wasn't it it was really really really important to see as well so fingers crossed that positivity can just be taken over If they can create something and it gets the atmosphere going then I think becomes a really difficult place that helps so we've got to do our part I think as well and continue but the interesting I like the blue smoke don't lash it on the pitch because it's an issue please have it with your lungs you're breathing it in do it once when it's turned up into the press room at Goddison and my face was just covered in blue the lads in there were going no no no it does help so what do you think for this season I know it's very early and I'm putting it on the spot a little bit but what do you think for the upcoming season I don't want to say success because they're in success but what is like an acceptable kind of season right now whenever I haven't signed any players or whatever what should we be looking for next season I think just stay away from a relegation fight for a start is just the absolute bare minimum I would suggest a bit of structure maybe in the scenes you just want to see a certain sense of direction through all levels of the club I suppose the academy coming through with the first team you just want to see not necessarily just one style of play that they're going to play all the time but sort of an underlying philosophy and you understand what Lampard and Thelwell are trying to build they never seem to panic and change the minds and stuff like that just stick with a long term plan we can see the start of a long term plan and as long as you see that sort of incremental improvement over the course of this season I'm not expecting any sort of European fights or winning trophies or anything like that I'm not really expecting anything like that as long as you see that sort of improvement with that underlying level of this is the philosophy that we're clearly going for here then obviously you've just got to try and build yourself up back in that way haven't you because we're starting on such a low base this summer that you've just got to bring that base up a little bit more and I think that's probably realistic to be looking at just sort of mid table it's not exciting in any sort of way to say mid table I think I would take it at this point and I mean this has been said all before signings and what have you and you don't know what everybody else in the league is going to do I suppose but I would just say as long as we just see that slight improvement then I'd be happy personally I agree I think we need almost a ladder to climb you can see where it's going because for too long it's been like I'll go off the Europe and it doesn't quite work and then there's mixed messages everywhere I think we do need going up the ground in two years and all that we've got to need to plot a path towards that and hopefully the fans will be willing and then we can stay a bit lampard and get behind them and hopefully we can see a little bit of progression because that's all we want really that's all we want Adam, big thanks for coming in check out the most the help, the correspondent they go why wouldn't you? give the 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Good afternoon everyone and welcome to transitioning to a peace economy pathways and perspectives. I would like you to I would like to know where everyone's from so please type in where you're from and your name so that we can get to know you a little better. My name is Katrina Canyon and I am the executive director of peace economy project. And I'll be the host for today's discussion. Before we get started, please note that this webinar. Is being recorded and will be available on our website later for viewing. We encourage you to submit questions at any time during the discussion via the Q and a function and after after at the end of the webinar, we will then. Pose your questions to the panelists. Now we'll start with a short poll that my friend Rachel here will put up. Do you understand the key factors of a peace economy? Yes or no. And it's okay if you don't, it's we just want to get a register of how familiar people are with peace economies. So, has everyone had a chance to answer the question Rachel. Okay, so it looks like 75% of you are familiar with a peace economy.  Today, we're honored to have two remarkable advocates for peace and justice. Michelle done of the Francis can action network and Jodi Evans co founder of code pink. Their extensive experience and passionate advocacy provide them with unique insights into the mechanisms of war economies and strategic approaches to advocating for peace and human rights. Now, without further ado, let's dive into today's session. First, we are going to start with me. Where I am going to provide you with a brief presentation on the foundations and principles of a peace economy. So, what is a peace economy? A peace economy is an economic system that prioritizes human and environmental well being and advocates for the peaceful resolution of conflicts. The objective of a peace economy is to reallocate resources from military spending to areas that promote public goods and enhance quality of life. And this is a very broad definition. I'm, I'm sure when Jodi speaks that she will have a different. I will let Jodi speak for herself as far as what a peace economy is, but this is very, very broad definition just to give you an understanding. The print the key principles of a peace economy have to do with sustainability equity and justice. Non violence and community and collaboration with sustainability. We with under a peace economy. We focus on renewable resources. And long term term healing of the environment. We want to ensure that there is fair distribution of these resources. And most importantly, in a peace economy, we like to focus on resolving issues through dialogue and in a non violent manner. And community and collaboration is also a very important aspect of a peace economy because we like to see things through dialogue and through diplomacy. The cost of military that now we're looking at the cost of militarization when, and when a, when a community or a nation or the world focuses on militarization, we see high expenditures. In one country decides that they need more weapons than other countries decide that they need more weapons and you see the, the, the spend rate go up really high when, when there's a focus on militarization. You see resources that are diverted from social programs to military spending and it's not just a few dollars it could, it goes into the billions where you'll see. See governments, instead of focusing that on education or the environment they're focusing on military spending. And it causes an economic inequality, especially when you think about how the money goes toward defense contractors instead of towards schools. And there's an extreme environmental impact when military activities significant and they significantly harm the environment. A prime example of is that the war in Gaza and its environmental impacts that it's having not only on the region, but on the planet as a whole. And now we're going to compare peace and militarized conflict. Oops, sorry, I went the wrong way there. In comparing peace with a militarized economy, we see that under under the main focus of a peace economy it's human well being in peace while under a militarized economy. It's national security and power under peace economy we have with conflict resolution we're focused on dialogue and legal institutions with military economy. We're focused on military forest and intimidation with resource allocation under a peace economy we're looking at public service and innovation under a militarized economy. We are looking at arms and militarization in a peace economy the economic priority is sustainable development on in a militarized economy we're looking at military capabilities. The benefits of a peace economy, you see social cohesion, economic stability, global reputation and environmental benefits. When with a peace economy you'll see things like higher litter literacy rates, better education. You have a country that is more stable economically. It improves their global reputation and they have usually have a really nice environmental impacts in those countries. Real world examples, Costa Rica, which is one of my favorite examples in 1949, the, the president of Costa Rica decided to get rid of all of their military, their military expenditures, and they redirected their funds toward health care. Peace economy project is currently working on a case study that we hope to have out and later in the year on Costa Rica. And there was Costa Rica is now at a 90 98% literacy rate, which, which happened after they decided to redirect their funds towards social and health care. Japan. They enacted article nine of the Japanese constitution renouncing war and focusing on food and economic sustainability. Butan is a has a high gross national happiness at index because they also focus on cultural wealth and material health. Hectorino we can't hear you. How about now. Thank you. Thank you. In conclusion embracing a peace economy offers sustainable and just alternatives to a militarized economic system, shifting priorities can lead to improve global global health equality and true security. And it's important that we advocate for policies that support peace over war because and sustainability over destruction because that is the way that we're truly going to save the planet. And so that's it for our introduction into a peace economy. And now I will move on to our panelists and we'll start with Michelle done of the Franciscan Action Network. Michelle, could you share with us your thoughts and ideas on a peace economy, particularly as as the moral imperative and. An ethical imperative of a peace economy. Sure. Thank you so much Katrina. Thanks for inviting me to be with you. I'm really, really excited to have this conversation with you and Jodi. And, you know, I'm a learner here. So I'm executive director of Franciscan Action Network. Here are a faith based justice and peace organization. And I only came to this a few years ago. So true confessions. I was part of the national security establishment in the United States. I worked for the US Department of State as a diplomat for almost 20 years and after that in think tanks that were the Carnegie endowment for international peace. And although I personally always had a strong interest in peace and human rights. As a diplomat, you're really very integrated with with the military machine, you know, of the United States and everything. So there's a lot about this that I'm, I'm still learning. And as I mentioned, I'm speaking to you from a faith perspectives. I am a lay Franciscan also known as a secular Franciscan. I'm not a, I'm not a, not a nun. I'm a lay person, but I'm a member of a religious order. So I'm very inspired by St. Francis of Assisi and St. Clair, as well as Pope Francis. And what I have to say today, it's really about taking that, that perspective, and, and saying how that informs can informed a faith based, you know, way of thinking about a peace economy. Because sometimes there's the, the idea that, you know, people of faith or Christians are are not with, you know, a peace economy. So, and I will say, I'll say a little bit about a couple of initiatives, real world initiatives that relate to this. But I want to share a couple of stories from the life of St. Francis, which I think show a deep connection between spirituality and thinking about a peace economy. There are many, many sayings of St. Francis that, that are very important to me as a lay Franciscan. But if there's one, I had to just pick out one that I think has been the single most inspirational to me. Here is what it is. At some, at one point, St. Francis said to his companions, look brothers, if we have any possessions, we'll need arms to protect them. And, and, and, and these possessions will cause many disputes, and they having a lot of possessions in the love of God and neighbor. Therefore, let us decide we don't want to possess anything in the world. So, you know, very often when people think about St. Francis and his, his bow of poverty, they're thinking about it just he always a pious person he wants to focus on prayer. But he had this very profound insight about the connection between wealth and privilege and violence. And that is in the first instance, why he gave up his possession. St. Francis came from a wealthy merchant family. This is in Italy in the, you know, late 1100s and 1200s. What he thought is that when, when, when a person or a group or whatever cling to wealth and privilege, then they end up having to use violence to defend that, or, or have someone use violence on their behalf. And it was because Francis rejected the use of violence that he said, let's not cling to our wealth, our wealth and our privilege. And I think this can be translated, you know, it could go from the individual level to the national level or whatever, that clinging to the inordinate wealth and inordinate privilege will require violence, warfare, coercive policing, so forth, to protect that. You know, Francis had participated in warfare as a young man there were, you know, the city states in Italy were fighting. And so our warfare between social classes, he had participated in these things and been taken prisoner. And he was a prisoner of war for more than a year he suffered very deep health effects, as well as post traumatic stress disorder from that experience and it became totally turned against the use of violence. I just, I think that's something for us to think about, right? Why is the use of violence required? Why is warfare required? It is because of clinging to inordinate wealth and privilege and disadvantaging others. So another reason why Francis gave up his wealth is because he refused to participate in economic exploitation. And again, you know, there was this odd thing about saying Francis that he refused, you know, once he had his religious conversion, he refused to touch currency, coinage, right? Which, and he didn't want his brothers or sisters or those who joined his movement, wanted them to avoid contact with actual currency as much as possible. Why was that? It was because it was a tool of exploitation at his time. They had this system at the time that the value of the currency was deliberately manipulated to exploit the poor and benefit the rich through periodic devaluations. It gets complicated, but basically poor people would be stuck with the devalued currency and rich people would have a different form of currency that wasn't getting devalued. And so the poor would end up paying more than the rich for the same product. The question is, does that sound familiar to you? I think this is still going on today where the poor end up paying more than the rich for the same thing. Think about, you know, auto insurance, interest on loans, etc. Right, there are forms of economic exploitation like sort of baked into our economy. And then, you know, the third, and Francis, that's why he said, I don't want to touch that coinage because as a previously rich person, he understood this. And he said, you know what? I'm opting out of this whole thing. I'm going to participate in a barter economy as much as possible. I don't want to be part of this currency system that exploits the poor. And the other thing, of course, was that, you know, Francis actually stepped out of his social class, out of his wealthy privileged social class to live among the poor and the marginalized of his time. He physically moved out of the walled city. He moved out of his gated community, the walled city of Assisi into the countryside, which is where people who were poor and marginalized live. So, and that was, you know, a matter of solidarity for him. A more for us to think about. I also want to just read a very short quote about from Pope Francis on the issue of solidarity, and this is from Pope Francis encyclical Fratelli Tutti. Solidarity means much more than engaging in sporadic acts of generosity. It means thinking and acting in terms of community. It means that the lives of all are more important prior to the appropriation of goods by you. It means combating the structural causes of poverty, inequality, lack of work, lack of housing, denial of social and labor rights. It means confronting the destructive effects of the empire of money. I think that phrase, the empire of money is a very interesting one. It relates to me back to the issues I've been talking about. I want to add one more profound insight that St. Francis had about economics. St. Francis, you know, you know, he's famous as the patron saint of ecology. People have statues of him in his gardens. This is because St. Francis was a mystic and as a mystic had this profound insight that many mystics reach about the oneness of all humanity and in fact of all creation. And so he believed that all people and in fact all things, all created things deserve their fair share of the abundance created by God. Francis did believe in work and in fact he did not tolerate shirking work, you know, among his friars, but he did not believe that any person or even any living thing that needed their basics need should be determined by how much society valued the form of work. Because as we know, our society values some forms of work very, very disproportionately with others. He believed that in creation God had provided for all and that all deserved their share. So he required, you know, anyone in his order who could work to work, but that he felt that if a person, everyone's basic needs should be met, right? The basic needs of people who could not work should be met. And in many cases he realized that basic needs would go above what a person could earn. Are we seeing that, you know, in our society, in our economy, that people are working and still cannot meet their basic needs.  And that they should do that with their heads held high, knowing that I'm reading here from a book now. This is a new book on Francis of Assisi, my brother, Michael Cusado, a well-known Franciscan scholar. In the research that brother Michael did for his book, he found that the brothers were told that if they needed to ask for more, then they could earn to meet their basic needs. They should do so with heads held high, knowing that possessing sacred dignity of the creatures of God, they were inviting those better off than themselves to use creation in the manner it was intended by the creator, namely for the good of all. So to me, this principle has profound implications about how we should think about redistribution of income and wealth. And it could be through government programs, right? Just to list a few. Child tax credit, SNAP, food subsidies, healthcare programs such as Medicaid, TANF, welfare payments, and also more progressive concepts such as universal basic income. Do we believe, as St. Francis did, that all deserve to have their basic needs met? Those who can work should do so. Those who cannot work still get their basic needs met, and even those who work get their basic needs met when they're over and above what they can earn. They are entitled to do that. There should be no shame put upon people for getting their basic needs met. So, you know, these just, I think, leave me with some interesting questions as we think about transition to a peace economy. Because, so one question, can I shift away in my thinking from the mindset of meritocracy that prevails in our culture to one of universal kinship that all deserve to have their needs met from God's abundance? Can I learn more about what forms of exploitation of the poor I might be participating in, even unwittingly, and work with others to fix them? And can I think critically about what forms of wealth, privilege, power, national security that I participate in that require violence and coercion to defend them? What is wrong with these systems? If it requires violence to defend them, how can they be changed? Just very briefly, Katrina, I want to mention a couple of initiatives. One interesting initiative, and I'll drop a link into the chat in a moment, is called the Economy of Francesco. This is a project initiated by Pope Francis a few years ago, in which he is reaching out primarily to young people, young adults, especially those who are economists, entrepreneurs, researchers to brainstorm and pilot new economic initiatives. And this is very much related to peace economy based on the teachings of St. Francis. Another one that I want to say that my organization has really become involved in, and I believe Code Pink is as well, is the Poor People's Campaign here in the United States. This is a revival of a campaign started during the time of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King. But this is a campaign to try to address the interlocking challenges of economic injustice, racism, environmental destruction, and militarism with a broad movement that really is using two tools. One is to mobilize for and low income voters to vote in elections. And the other one is to raise consciousness more broadly among Americans about the massive size and cost of poverty in the United States, which, as you might know, is much larger. Then we have much more poverty and much deeper poverty in the United States than do other countries with a similar GDP per capita. Okay, and you know, something's wrong here. I'm sure, you know, we can discuss more. Why is that, but I'll stop there. I hope that, you know, and I really look forward to hearing what Jody has to say and what our other participants have to contribute. Thank you so much, Michelle. That was really informative and I really was moved by what you said about Empire of Money and I'm looking forward to discussing that later toward the end. And, but right now we're going to introduce Jody. Jody is a vigorous activist and co and the co founder of Code Pink renowned and she's renowned for her tireless efforts and promoting peace and demilitarization globally. Her deep understanding of war economies and her strategic approaches to peace advocacy have been pivotal in shaping discussions around peace economies.  Thank you. Um, so Michelle, that was awesome. Thank you so much for sharing so many things that are part of our work at Code Pink, including the amazing Pope, who does celebrate a peace economy and his teachings, not just in his speaking out against war and weapons, but also in his teachings about how it is that we can live together. So for those of you who don't know about Code Pink, it was started as a response to Bush was frightening the American people into war on an innocent country using the color quit alerts orange red and yellow. So we decided to call Code Pink for peace. And it was, we failed at stopping the war on a rock we feel like we've succeeded in stopping the war on Iran but it's very dicey in the moment. We continue to work to move the money from war to the needs of a peace economy. And we've been trying to limit the military budget for the last 22 years, while we've watched $22 trillion be stolen from the American taxpayers to fund the war on terror, which also killed 5 million people in the Middle East and has to stabilize the Middle East. So, yes, to all of the moving the money, it's definitely a part of what Code Pink does. But in my, you know, our days of disrupting Congress and scratching at the war machine. One of those days I realized, oh, we're not going to end war until we end the war economy, because war just serves the war economy. And that realization had me thinking, Well, we need to yes continue to scratch at and try to pull back this war machine but at the same time, we need to be cultivating a peace economy for the future, that if we spend all our time just in ensnared in this violence, it takes our life energy away from being able to create what it is we desire.  And some to some it's called capitalism, but we're in late stage capitalism and it is destroying everything. It's kind of on a suicide mission taking all of us with it. So I call that the war economy because that's what war serves. All these wars are only about resources or power over so that there can be so there can be a hedge money which is the United States, which can force every other wave to its needs quite frightening and if you're not from the United States, you've kind of have the US boot on your neck. So the peace economy, as I started to look into it was the economy that existed before the war economy before the last like 500 years. And it's held, it's been held by the indigenous that have a deep understanding of long term thinking and of the connection to the earth to the connection to each other. And so the peace economy the giving sharing carrying thriving relational resilient economy, without which none of us would be alive. And that is because our first taste of the peace economy is parenting is mug being mothered being parented, all of that done in a relational way with no expectation of something in return with the abundance is available to serve life. So the peace economy is what creates conditions conducive for life. And I think about my own life. And I think of how many lives, how many people before me, strive so hard that I could have this life. But I'm living in a time where individualism and our culture of the war economy, we live in a war economy culture have really devolved us into not even valuing life, not even taking care of it. If we don't take care of the planet that's not taking that's not taking care of life because the planet is our home. The peace economy in Greek means home, and it really brought me back to this. How do we take care of our home sweet home, our planet, our communities, and the place where we live, and in the sense that it is a space of nurturance of care. We've forgotten all those things that have been taken away from us by the war economy culture. So, we definitely use activism that could pink to work on changing the system. We also have a deep realization that that system itself is the war economy culture that is violent. And so, when we are trying to change it we're also being used by it. It's not changing if anybody hasn't noticed I'm old I'm 70, but I've been doing this for a very long time it's getting worse by the day. And in all the ways that it can so yes we scratch out what we can, but what it should be doing what our tax dollars should be creating for us is, you know what you described is that care for the children for each other for those that can't. That that's available that abundance is available, but the privatization and the of all things that should be commons and of the sucking of the resources away to the few. I do know there's a billionaire made every 18 hours, that is money sucked away from the needs of the people. And this whole process is dehumanizing. And so, we, you know, what I saw is that with the war economy, creating climate change in the way that it is and not stopping and the thing is is that we think we're going to be able to stop these things but we can't it's a monster it's eating itself and it's eating everyone in its path. And it's not conscious there's not a rational thing we're dealing with. We need to be creating another system that we're agreeing to, because we all agree to the system and we all participate in the system.  So those we, we call the pivots to peace. And if we're going to create a piece economy it's going to take all of us and we need to be grounded in that ourselves, because otherwise we're being used by the war economy our lives are being used by the war economy for for itself so they're the pivots to peace. The war economy thrives by us feeling alienated. And, and so we need to be in connection to break ourselves out of that alienation because it affects our thinking. It affects how we treat each other. We're directed instead of community engaged. Well, you know, we're community is how we survive that is in the survival of the fittest. That was what the survival of the fittest meant was those who had a community and created in community competition to interdependence. The competition keeps us separate keeps us, you know, separated from each other, where interdependence is how life is formed that's, if we look at to nature, which all of these come from nature thrives on interdependence, transactional to relational. This is one of the big ones. The war economy has us all in transactional to survive in the war economy. We survive by being transactional. So, we, we, that's one of the hardest ones I think the code pinkers have breaking, because it is so deep inside of us we have we don't even realize it. We don't realize any of these how deep they are inside of us and how they take us away from life and take us away from each other and take our own selves away from our beautiful humanity and the relationship we could be having with each other and the planet. So, these are the pivots to peace. And I don't have time to go through all of them, but you'll, you know, take a look at them you'll recognize ones that fit with you that you recognize deeply, you know, like urgency to wisdom, you know that urgency being in that urgent state takes away our capacity to even build wisdom, which, which is so desperately needed right now. One of my favorites is probably problem solving to managing complexities. And this is one where I've really talked to a lot of people about this one recently, and so many people understand that they were trying to solve problems and they created more and more problems. And that managing complexities is really about being in relationship with reality in the constant change that is life in all the pieces of the complexity, because we solve problems without recognizing the whole. And really, the managing complexities is what nature does, and how we need to be in relationship with each other and nature, and then individualism to self responsibility. Self responsibility is at the core of all religions. And yet, we're in this church of individualism in the war economy that is destroying us and the planet, and not serving anyone it doesn't we can see it doesn't make anyone happy. And I'm actually talking to you from China. And one of the things I was really recognizing today is the crazy amount of joy and laughter and possibility that exists here. And it's this culture 3000 years old and Confucianism and Buddhism are all rooted in when I say these are indigenous. Well, that's one of the things that's indigenous here is Confucianism, where everybody understands a relationship to the earth and to each other and values that and thinks about the whole, not their individualism, and it's quite a stark difference when you come to the United States and you're here in that you can you can actually feel it. I call it the cloud of despair doesn't seem to hang here. So those are our pivots to peace but let me just give you a little more overview of, of, you know, how you can be yourself, pivoting from the war economy to the peace economy. So Emily if we could have the next slide. So yes, the local peace economy is all around us. And when I started this in my own community. So one of the things we say is create your community find your community, but the first thing you do is always operate in community. And so I pulled together my community in Venice Beach, California, and we said, Well, where does the war economy most felt by the people in our community. Who's suffering that the most. And what we found out is that 1500 homeless kids lived in our neighborhood. And so that became where our attention was, and that, you know, the peace economy is love, the peace economy is care is that creation of home sweet home so how can we start to have that care for these young people in our community. And so we made sandwiches on Saturday and we fed them out of the back of our car and then we ended up bringing out of a Baptist church around the corner and he gave us the church for a day and then we brought people who you know could do therapy with them in a local clinic that could bring in healing and close and we would ask them what they needed. And so the whole community would be serving the needs of these young people. And that's, you know, the way that you get everyone into the relationship of what it is even to be homeless, not from a place of oh they're bad I'm good, but from the place of how do I serve those who have less than me. So that was the one we did in our community. But here are some others that we've listed. You know, at the local peace economy website, we have a whole wiki full of stories from around the country and around the world about how you can engage as a practitioner in the local piece economy, whether it's, you know, in your community or coming up with an issue that you have, and building a co op around it or building a collective around it, or creating mutual aid. You know, I want to say something about a local piece economy, where that kind of culture is more prevalent than a war economy and one of those is like Asheville, North Carolina, which has many of these projects, and it's very relational. And during the 2008 recession, it suffered the least. And so, you know, a study into see this and other local piece companies. What does that mean it suffered the least, the less amount of people were kicked out of their houses, the less people lost their jobs. Why, because if you're, you know, at a bank in a small community that's connected, you're not kicking somebody out of their house, you're not hearing it out. And the same with the jobs, people in the jobs, figured out how to job share figured out how to take less hours so that everybody can have a job. So you figure things out because it's relational. And, and, and we could see this in in 2008 in the communities that already functioned closer to a piece economy than war economy than some of the other cities. So, you can find out more about all these different ways to be finding a local piece economy near you finding a community near you at our wiki at the local piece economy page and I'm sure that Emily is posting some of these links. Emily, can we have the next slide. I don't think I can do it. I'm on the next slide is it not coming up. Great. Thanks. So, there's capacities also in a piece economy so we're pivoting out of our addictive habits created by the war economy but there's also capacities and building the piece economy and creating a piece economy. And I just also saw a recent study that showed with both AI and climate change, those that would survive would be those that have created piece economy structures. One of the most important ones is listening. War economy doesn't like listening. And so how do we listen to the earth how do we listen to each other how do we listen to our needs and need is is also a very key word it's like, how do we serve needs. Instead of the ones that are created by the war economy to keep us on that endless hamster wheel. We're also mapping really like grounding ourselves where we are.  We've been unrooted from our values from our communities from where we live even. So, how do we we root ourselves so that we can be strong and flexible like those trees that can move. But, you know mapping really helps us understand where we live who we are who related to, and even where do we want to go. So mapping is one of the things we do and you can do it in so many ways from our history to what we have to give to the present community, cultivating community being part of the community and and seating with a community what you can be doing, you know, in creating local piece economy projects organizing. So, once you have a community is like how do you organize beyond your community and bring people in to understand to learn and organizing we say we educate inspire and activate centering culture. Another like reference to China that I was, we were talking today with a friend that I was walking with, and there's just so much rich culture. I was just walking from the train station to the hotel. And there was, you know, a Chinese ethnic group doing a dance in their costumes with umbrellas and there was another Chinese group doing like a square dance kind of thing. And then there was another group doing drumming. And then there was another group doing chai tea, and then somebody was playing bad bad mitten, like in the middle of the square. So, the, if we think that our culture is a war economy culture if you look at those pivots. It's also devoured culture itself. So that art music isn't made for the to touch your soul. It is isn't made for that moment of, you know, awakening of connecting. It's made for commerce, which makes it devoid really of culture, and devoid of that connectivity to the ephemeral to the oneness that that is and has been what cultures been and in so many in our past and is around the world. So, centering culture and letting that space of what, how do we sing to each other, how do we play music that moves each other, how do we create theater and storytelling in ways because it too has been co-opted and storytelling is core to being human, but it's been co-opted as a distraction and as a tool of the Empire as a tool to the State Department. So, you know, how do we break ourselves out of the co-optation of our brains that's been happening into the reconnection of life and on storytelling, and then what stories are we paying attention to the stories of the war machine, or the stories of the peace makers, like, you know, we heard, we heard earlier. So, and I know I'm probably over is the other thing is, is when we do this work, we start to grieve what we've lost grieve what our lives have been used for. We call it our circle of reconnection, our cycle of reconnection, where we go from grief to care to joy and celebration over and over again, as we learn our space of resilience and reconnection and understanding and into the creation of the future that we all dream for. And I think, yes, if you download our free book and give yourself nine months, you will be blown away by who you are and what you have to offer the new world. So, thank you. Thanks, Emily. Thank you so much, Jodi. This has been a really informative conversation. And I really appreciate both of you for sharing what what you have about peace economy. We have one question here. It's a little long. It says, I don't expect an answer now, but I am thinking that looking into you making this transition. How might some of the ideas from my writing, the energy paradigm shift transferring fear into a green energy economy, COP 26 edition fit into this important peace endeavor. In my writing, I discussed that unless we solve the climate crisis, nothing else will matter. And then it goes into the benefits of growing green energy economy, far outweigh the waning benefits of a dying fossil fuel industry and outmoded old paradigm energies, including fracking and plastics, mega dams and nuclear power. The old fossil fuel industry is fighting tooth and nail clinging to old ways that are killing the planet. All those who profit from these outdated models. Industries are exacerbating the climate crisis, leading us to total annihilation and disturbing the peace. So, they're talking about mostly about how to to integrate some of these ideas into their own work. Feel free to reach out and come join one of our, we have a call every other Wednesday. Come, come join us. I mean, we all do that work on the side, because it's still that's the war economy we're talking about the extractive economy. And many of us are super engaged in that. But also war is the greatest contributor climate change. It's the greatest user of fossil fuels. So we have a huge campaign it could pink, called war is not green to try to end wars for as they are the greatest users of fossil fuels and they're usually over fossil fuels. But again, I go back to these. These are monsters and stopping them we haven't been super successful at and building the building the better and moving people off of the war economy will will be will be a different kind of transition.  It's like when they are asking a member of Congress to do something. I'm like, but you haven't done it yourself. You know so much we have to look at ourselves and see what what are we doing because we're asking a member of Congress to do that and we haven't done it. So it's really bringing it back to the self responsible to take it to the top. I mean we live in a structure. I think we lost Jodi. There we go. Sorry. The, the structure is allowing a genocide. The very, we're talking about peace, things that have been held peace together for thousands of years, like not bombing an embassy. These things. That's not recent. That's thousands of years of peace have understood what an embassy is has understood what diplomacy is. We live right now in a, in a country that does not use diplomacy just drives war. And we're all going to have to learn to be building what we need together because it has failed. And we're watching it fail. And I think it's for us to instead of being demoralized by it, we should be inspired to be creating and creating ourselves away from and into. Yes, away from fossil fuels and into alternative forms. Thank you, Jodi. In thinking about this and what you said had me think about what back to what Michelle said about the empire of money and I can't help but course. Compare it to like a community of peace and what you were talking about. Michelle, can you talk more about the empire of money versus a community of peace and how we should transform from one to the other. Sure. I mean, look, I think there's, you know, there's, there's a lot in common here I mean to pull a few threads out of Jodi's presentation, the whole issue of relationality versus transactionalism, you know, in in relationships.  There's, you know, there's a lot there in terms of, you know, how we value and what we value and I think we have to be honest with ourselves that we are kind of prisoners of our of our culture and our cultural programming and updating and getting to the kind of thinking that we're talking about here is a real journey for all of us. You know, Jodi mentioned a couple of things about our addiction to the war economy. And our our need to shift to thinking about serving needs, rather than wants or desires that are created, you know, by our culture. I wanted to raise one point and I'm actually really curious what Jodi would say about this. So Jodi, in my organization, we screened the the film you might be familiar with it called the letter about Pope Francis, and and his his encyclical Laudato si, and so forth and it makes a really impassioned for a kind of transition right away from fossil fuels to sustainable to a sustainable way of living and it's it's all there to have a discussion after the film and there was one woman in the group, and I really appreciated her honesty, because she said this all sounds wonderful but, but it scares me, I don't understand she said, Are you talking about we have to go back to a free industrial revolution standard of living is that how we're going to need to live to get back to sustainability and relationality, and she said frankly, I don't think I can make it without air conditioning.  Okay, but I mean, that's a little bit about individualism. Free quarters of the world lives without air conditioning. So, to speak to that's you that's we live a very privileged lives that are destroying the world for others, like the climate change is going to affect the poor that we've stolen from across the world as the hegemony of the United States. So I'm sorry for that woman that she's going to be without air conditioning, but I want to go back to the people don't change because they create these fears. And I want to just talk about people who've changed, you know, who've done the nine months. And, and I talked to Reverend, I was part of the founding of the poor people's campaign and way at the beginning. He talked about how moral Mondays was also nine months, and that it was nine months before the person would then get, Oh, I get it. I'm being lied to, and I'm, you know, my votes being used against me, you know, that's how he was using it. So, it's more saying everything points to, and including today, you know, with the UN saying we have two years and if we don't change it's we don't. It's like, there's no changing we've got we're past the 1.5. And so we are going to have to simplify. You can do it. Electrically. And I would say whenever we change individually, it's always better to do it electively than have that accident forces to do it right. So it's think about it as like a choice. It lets you choose all the way there.  Because if you don't have a community, if you haven't figured out how to live together in your community, it's going to be worse than losing your electricity. It's going to be scary. It's going to be really scary.  But security is in relationship.  That's why we started cooping. Oh my God, Saddam Hussein, which had nothing. It was like a country that had nothing. We should be ashamed of ourselves for even dropping a bomb on these people who had nothing that we'd already start them and killed 500,000 children. It's, you know, gross. So we get set up in this way the work economy uses us with these big fears, instead of living into it, because people who live into it. When I say, we know, what have you learned for the work on me that like, Oh my God, I've, I am so happy, I am so full of joy. And I've never worked harder in my life. But I've never been happier. Like, why are we avoiding work? Because work is what gives us our humanity is what gives our meaning is what gives us our connectivity. It's what gives us our things to give away, you know, it's like, so it's like, instead we're enslaved. Instead of doing what all people have done throughout history is a form of work that brings them joy. Another thing I'm seeing in China is like, nobody's anxious about the work they're doing, nobody's complaining, they're doing their work and they're living their lives. But we, we now live in this like contortion of what work is. Instead of what is the work of being alive of being human of moving our bodies and serving each other of like creating home. So, you'd be surprised what you can do without when you're happy. Yeah, I just one word on this Katrina, I think a lot of this comes down to whether we are living in a fear and scarcity mindset, or in a mindset of, I would say, relationality and abundance. Right, I mean, it just everything, the way you see all these things is, is, and, and so that's, that's a big issue. And I'm, I'm sort of assuming that's what your nine month process is about is helping people to transition from one of those mindsets to to another. Exactly. Thank you. Thank you both. Princess and spirituality is about, although, you know, in a in a different, in a different way. Thank you both so much. I believe that your you've all added, you've all added your web pages and everything into the chat. And it has been a wonderful discussion. And I'm adding piece economy projects. Web site as well for people if they're interested in more of these programs go to our site and sign up for our mailing list and don't forget to do the same for code pink and the Francis can action network. Thank you both so much. Thank you. Thanks so much. Great to be with you. Peace. Peace and all good. Bye.