Hey guys, it's Nate, AKA the Foot Accountant. Welcome back to the channel. We have two very massive items to talk about today. First of all, this loading screen. Road to the final is starting on Friday. So I want to talk about that. We were expecting road to the final cards because we don't have any live cards right now. It just made sense for them to drop this promo this next week or two weeks, depending on how long it's going to actually be. But that promo is confirmed. I want to talk about that a little bit. Just what road to the final is and how it might look different this year because it's starting way later than normal. But also talk about icon swaps too. Yes, we have new packs added into the code. Talking about icon swaps or what we think will be for the icon swap pack rewards. A lot of packs that give out prime icons, prime icon moments. There's like a 92 plus mid or prime pack, a 91 plus, a 92 plus prime or icon moments pack. There's some big packs that are looking like they're going to be coming out as a part of icon swaps too. So I want to talk about all that. Of course, today's a big day for a potential player of the month, SBC, for Ben Yetter as well. But it's probably not going to be cheap because fodder right now in this game is very, very high in price. So we're going to talk about all of that today in the video. If you're hyped for icon swaps too and road to the final, hit a thumbs up on the video and subscribe if you're new. Let's talk about this loading screen first of all. And what this tells us. I mean, this isn't like a super crazy loading screen unveiling a lot of information. We have three car designs here, Champions League, Europa League and the conference league and telling us that road to the final starts on Friday. All these car designs are different. They look very similar to the ones that we had before in road to the knockouts, but they are indeed different. Right? If you take a look like to the actual road to the final car or the road to knockout car design which these are going to get confused by the way. People are going to get so confused about these different cards. But if you can kind of spot the small differences you're going to be just fine. And of course if you know it by the players, right? The players that are released out of RTTF are going to be different than road to the knockouts. So that's how you're going to be able to keep these things straight. But cards impacts this Friday, SBC's objectives. These live cards, they're always very hyped. These are going to be some of the most fun cards to trade with over the next couple of weeks. As I'm assuming that EA is going to have to come up with a new way to upgrade these. Because in the years past road to the final started in, you know, like in October or November and it included some of the group stage hype in the build up for qualifying for the knockout stage. But of course we've already had road to the knockouts. And these cards that are dropped this weekend we're going to have a brand new and different upgrade pattern because the games that have been played this last week, like the last two days of course with PSG winning and with Liverpool winning just as two examples that would have been one of the first upgrades that road to the finals in previous years received. So they're going to have to change the way they do upgrades this year for these cards. So that's going to be interesting to see how they do things since we're further along in the progression of the road to the final. So we'll be looking out for that sort of information. Of course we got the conference league and the Europa League in there as well. And I think this is perfectly timed. And I think it's going to be a two week promo. I think it is going to be two weeks because I believe that with the timing of these games the second leg for the champions the games that have been played already aren't for like three weeks. So that's a perfect time window for EA to run a two week promo with cards and packs. And then their first upgrade potential may be coming the week after or two weeks after they're out of packs. So I think that's well timed by EA and this is going to be pretty exciting. Now I will say that we don't have any leaks for this yet in terms of like players that are in there's concepts and there's you know rumors and grumblings about what players might be in but I think you're going to start to see some leaks for the road to the final team probably today. Just don't be surprised if you see some of that stuff probably in tomorrow's video we'll have some more information. I do expect maybe a loading screen today on road to the finals like updated with maybe some player stats or maybe on how they're going to get upgraded. So we'll have to see what they end up doing with that. Now the other thing that's being talked about a lot today is this and this of course is the pack code that was added last night and it has to be for icon swaps, right? If you take a look at some of these packs 92 plus prime or icon moments pack 91 plus mid or prime 92 plus prime icon pack just a prime icon pack in general there's an 89 plus prime or icon moments player these in my opinion and I think this is these are not EA adding icon SBCs or not icon upgrade packs it's way too early for these sorts of packs to be released as SBCs they're going to be through icon swaps and this really means that we are very close to icon swaps number two. Now what this also tells us is we are very close to icon moments which we knew about that but if icon swap packs are being put out into this game and we have code added for icon swaps which of course right now we don't have anything available in the game for swaps since all of that is over and done from icon swaps one I would imagine that within the next week we should be getting the actual icon swaps in this game I don't know if it's gonna be Friday I don't know if it's gonna be Monday icon swaps one earlier on in December of this last year dropped on a Wednesday so it really went random time then it dropped right before winter wildcards on a Wednesday so any day is really up for grabs here for when they're actually going to release icon swaps but Friday or Monday would probably be the two most possible dates but in the next week it would make sense now one thing that will really tell us for sure when icon swaps is starting is when they add that swaps two token to the code because of course as of right now if you go in and you look at the card types that are available to put into any SBCs there's only icon swaps one so when we start to see icon swaps two or when that's added to the database and we have some tweets about that then that's when we'll know icon swaps two is very, very close now again like I mentioned with these packs including prime icon moments I really think that icon moments could be this weekend and if it's not this weekend then it's next weekend but I'm really feeling strongly that it could be this weekend so just be again prepared on how the icon market might change because of that now one thing I'll also mention is as you see down here there's a couple very interesting packs that says guarantees an icon moments kind of VARO and there's another pack that guarantees an icon moments Gerard I think there's some other stuff that's a part of this pack I don't know what that is I guess that means it's gonna be a pack with an icon moments player I'm really not too sure how that is and if you look into the second page of this it says foot store pack 1120 icon moments kind of VARO pack and then that's all that's in it but then there's this 1121 pack which is like start your foot journey with a welcome pack offer so I don't know if this is for brand new players if they're running some sort of new pack but you have these you have this icon moments kind of VARO and icon moments Gerard pack which are very, very interesting and I think some people imagine and think that those are going to be somehow leaks or the cards that you will get as a part of icon swaps but I don't really think I've ever seen those before added as a pack so that's why I'm very curious to see as you see some of these guys here looks like we'll be getting these as swaps very soon I don't know what that is that's interesting so we'll see what it is EA will probably talk about it but one thing I'm gonna say again too is that leaks, right? We haven't had a ton of leaks recently I think the leakers are just kind of pulling back maybe a little bit and not saying everything that they see added to the game and added to the code from their leak sources but it sounds like some of these guys have icon swap rewards and if you remember from icon swaps one like the whole rewards were leaked like three or four days early so I would imagine that all the rewards for icon swaps two are gonna be leaked as well so keep an eye out for Twitter I really think Twitter is gonna be popping today on Thursday and even tomorrow on Friday with a lot of leaks as EA adds stuff into the code as we get headed towards icon swaps and the road to the final promo so that is what is going on right now with a lot of buildup with anticipation to some big things happening in this game in the next couple of days maybe the next week of course we have a set date for road to the final that's Friday, right? That's tomorrow we know that but icon swaps we don't really have a date for so that's just kind of something to kind of be aware of and again watch out for leaks because I think the market and I think leaks are gonna be very, very popping in the next day or two because of all that that is to come and those leaks are gonna be coming out but let's talk about this market, right? We did get the party bag SBC finally yesterday two days after it was added into the code and the thing about it was it was repeatable it was repeatable I only did it one time and I don't even remember who I got it was so bad but they upped the price for this one they made it 85 and 85 squad is the cost instead of just an 84 squad so it was a bit more expensive to do this but still so many people went out and did it and the pack was basically just as bad as it was before even though it included a Future Stars team two players inside of it and fodder is so incredibly inflated in price if you bought any fodder last weekend when we were talking about how low it was this stuff is literally at max price 85s are like extinct at 15,000 coins on the market on the PlayStation 86s were extinct at like 22, 23K some of them were at least 84s are like five and a half K a piece look at 88s they're approaching 40,000 coins fodder is so so high now again what I would say is I would be taking the cash on the stuff if you have not already taking the cash on it very very soon before tomorrow I would even do it after rewards today before marquee matchups probably because the longer you wait the more people are going to keep selling and undercutting as they get towards they know when fodder is going to drop with packs being open for road to the final and stuff like that so I would be selling this fodder because it is so high in price look at these 90 rated cards are almost 60K they're so high so if you bought fodder G frickin G's you are in the big money I know a lot of people made a lot of coins on fodder and that's a big GG if you did but it is a sell in my opinion with more supply coming on this weekend of course a couple other things going on with the market as well be careful with these future stars from team number two sometimes we see cards from team two like the cards from team one of future stars they rose a little bit a few of these cards rose last Friday I remember Emile Smith wrote went from like 570,000 coins up to 630 you had cards like Konate down at like 260 and he went up to like 300 and these guys are still up Chalmeny is one three wow he is up big because I think Ben Yetter is coming today we'll talk about that in just a second as well but Chalmeny is up big time he is also really rare as well but a lot of these cards are kind of up not a lot of them some of them are kind of up in price I'd be careful with future stars team two though unless you want to buy one of these for your team and you don't plan on selling it for a long time I'd be careful because I think that these might drop on the weekend because road to the final is always a very high promo and especially if we have icon moments and icon swaps coming as well whatever icon swaps comes out there is always a little bit of a dip in the market because a lot of that gameplay demand goes from people trying to run and try out players to have their best A team squad and division rivals, footchamps and stuff like that and some people just sell cards, get their coins and they go do objective gameplay to get icon swap tokens completed so usually you see a bit of a drop on the market when icon swaps is released so I would just be careful with some of these cards I know that some of them are very hype very in demand like Le Coix, Gravenbridge, Verts especially like Kakere is 193,000 coins again he is up in price as we head into Thursday today because of the Ben Yetter SBC leaks that is potentially coming out today so just be careful if you're wanting to invest in some of these but again talking about content for today on Thursday I really feel like the Ben Yetter is gonna be today the last few player of the months from the Lee Gunn have been on Thursdays there is a small chance that it could be tomorrow on Friday but as you see that Chow Many very very high in price that makes me think that Ben Yetter because some people get this inside information earlier than the grand Twitterverse does but keep an eye out for this Ben Yetter because I think he did, it is confirmed he won player of the month it's just a matter of when is his SBC dropping and I feel like that could be today but this SBC regardless is gonna be expensive but again it's for a big name player really meta in his FIFA and every FIFA ride five star weak foot four star skills high low work rates and the thing about player of the month SBCs as well is if they're out for like 20 or 30 days so even if Ben Yetter comes out as very expensive today there's gonna be a lot of people that will try to complete him over the next month basically as he is out and as he has an SBC in this game so that's gonna be a point of interest today on the market is this SBC if he does arrive again as I mentioned an updated loading screen I think during road to the knockout as well they released a loading screen that told us how the cards were gonna upgrade so again you can see the different card designs that we have in here the road to the knockouts design here has like the stadium in the background the road to the final design on the loading screen does not have the stadium the road to the knockouts UEL card doesn't have any flares on the side and then same thing with the road to the knockouts for the conference league it doesn't have those little like swirls around it so the cards are very similar and it's gonna confuse some people but that's some of the differences that you see there again another updated loading screen is what I would expect today and then other content wise I don't know about the reunion player pick last Tuesday when they released it it was you know repeatable and then you could like re-up it on a timer I did not do this one three times so I don't know if it's gonna be like repeatable again today I imagine that it might be but I'm not gonna do this one more time to find out because I'm not gonna rinse any fodder into this but maybe for you guys that have done it look and see if you've done this three times look and see if it says like another timer counting down towards today on Thursday at 6 p.m. where people will be able to do this again I feel like there's potential in that so just be careful there might be another gamble SBC they could release today as well the last thing to talk about in terms of content would be are they gonna drop more future stars tokens they've released 28 tokens so far and sometimes you know earlier on in the future star swaps program when it was getting leaked EA on their website said 28 tokens in total leaker said 30 we have all 28 tokens have been accounted for and released I believe right now in this game after they released two yesterday one of them inside of silver stars as you can see right here and the other one is inside of the brand new future stars Academy player Matias Nunez which is in like this one right here as you can see future star swap token is available in this seven in seven objective by the way this card looks pretty cracked if you wanna go and get it done it says squad battles I believe that all of these that say available to play in squad battles I think you can do it in rivals too it counts in rivals it just doesn't say that it does don't pin me on that that might be wrong but I believe that's how it's been for all these other objectives so maybe somebody who's been trying this and played some games and rivals if you've kind of semi completed any of these and have any progress on them without playing squad battles check that out I guess but that's how it's been for some of the other objectives they just don't put that or rivals parentheses in there but back to the tokens we will see if they drop two more tokens today that's what I'm really curious to see if they do drop those last two tokens because that would get us to a full 30 and you know they've done tokens before as a part of the marquee matchups which we should be getting a new set of today on this game as well so it's gonna be a very interesting Thursday I know it's rivals rewards I got D1 rewards for the second week in a row not quite elite division yet almost there not quite we're working our way through hopefully we will get there very soon and I'll get my first ever elite rewards this year so that's kind of what we're aiming for now market-wise in trading today as well you know oh we have to talk about the headliner cards man oh man was yesterday a crazy day for headliners and we can talk about market with this as well of course the big news is that EA updated Luis Diaz and technically by the books and by EA's terminology and the terms that they set out on their website Luis Diaz should not have been upgraded but they upgraded him because I think they just went through and updated Liverpool cards and they just said oh whatever we're gonna upgrade Luis Diaz as well now this card was moving like crazy earlier yesterday on the market and during the Champions League game after he had some crazy price fluctuations right when he got upgraded I bought two of them at 120k sold one for 200 sold another one for 177 and then during Champions League he went low again so I actually went out and picked up like 12 or 13 of them right around 123, 124,000 coins he is up in the 140s I'm gonna hopefully sell those on later today whatever price he wants to go through I'll probably try to get them out there but that was a crazy headliner upgrade yesterday that we were not expecting it's a W right because he's way more hype and I think linkable and usable for most people as a Liverpool player but technically still weird because it's not how it was supposed to go technically because he shouldn't have gotten his upgrade but it is what it is not that big of a deal in all honesty but again Van Dyke with the upgrade his price is down after that Salat got an upgrade as well I was able to flip one of those yesterday and I'm kind of just taking a look at his price right now where he has dropped down pretty low post upgrade he was like 1.2 million coins with the upgrade yesterday and right now he's like 1.1 so I'm kind of keeping an eye on him and just keeping an eye on other special cards in general that I think could rise today on the market after rewards taking a look at Brazilians, right? Again, a lot of people are still doing that Neymar, SBC and getting that done so I'm watching guys like Marquinhos so I'm watching some French icons some League 1 players maybe have a little bit extra of a rise today after rewards since Neymar is still kind of all the craze and all the hype right now after that SBC was released on the weekend many people are probably gonna try to get Neymar done with their rivals rewards today or maybe they're trying to get some of the icon player pick icon pack stuff done with rewards today as well that's one thing that I'll be watching out for but I don't expect a huge market crash Thursdays really aren't market crash days I think you'll see some cards rise up a bit but then we'll have to see what other sort of leaks come out that's what's gonna affect the market today the most if I'm being completely honest if there are leaks that come out for road to the final cards players that are gonna be in or content that they're gonna do that's really what I would keep an eye out for and keep watching because that I think could impact the market the most today on Thursday so that's gonna be the video for today a lot of exciting things upcoming again road to the final icon swaps too a lot to talk about with that hopefully we get some more information on both of those things today on this game or maybe on leaks as well but we'll be watching the Twitter scene because I'm sure there will be some information released there as well so if you enjoyed the video and you're hyped for all of the stuff coming up make sure to hit thumbs up on it comment down below if you do have any questions and of course subscribe if you are new it has been Nate the photo count and I will catch you guys later peace out


It is my honor, pleasure, and duty to begin this new season of Difficult Dialogues. Dr. Demetri Arujo Shabazz, thank you for joining us for another installment of Difficult Dialogues. This is our third Difficult Dialogues focused on the theme of reparations. And we are delighted to have someone that we've known since our University of Alabama days, Reverend Robert Turner. And he is fighting the great fight there in Tulsa to work on reparations for the folks of the descendants of Greenwood in Tulsa, Oklahoma. So I will be here if need be, but I'll let the other Dr. Shabazz take it away, and thanks for everyone joining us today. Well, very good. And thank you so much. We are very happy to launch another installment in this series of our Difficult Dialogues. Difficult Dialogues have been around for a number of years now, but we beginning this summer in the wake of a lot of things that were that happened in the world from COVID to the murders of Breonna Taylor and George Floyd and just so many things. And actually in the publication of From Here to Equality by William Darity Jr. and Kirsten Mullen just led us to really spotlight a series of difficult dialogues on the question of reparations. In fact, just really taking that as our focus, inspired by our guest today, inspired by Reverend Robert Turner. He has been waging a fierce witnessing and struggle in Tulsa, Oklahoma, particularly every Wednesday going out, rain, sleep, snow, whatever. Snow in Oklahoma, but no matter what he is out there. He is out in front of the city hall, raising the cry of reparations, drumming, being that drum major for the movement for reparations, which in Tulsa, Oklahoma has a very special, particular resonance beyond the general cry of reparations for people of African descent. African descendants of slavery in the United States. And Tulsa has a very special claim for reparations, going back to an incident that occurred almost 100 years ago. And the centennial of this massacre of this event is coming up next year. And we are blessed to have Reverend Robert Turner on the ground, pastor of historic Vernon AME church, which is a part of the Greenwood community. We say was ground zero in 1921 of the conflagration of what happened there.  First of all, after 1921, the actual knowledge of the events there, or were almost effectively silenced just erased from history, you would not see it in any Oklahoma history textbooks, you wouldn't see it in any American history textbooks. You wouldn't even see it in the venerable work of Dr. John Hope Franklin from slavery to freedom when his first African American history came out.  He was a child then, and his father was an attorney in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and their law offices was completely burnt out. Dr. Franklin wasn't living there he was living nearby in a little all black community all black town of Redbud, but are might be getting that would mixed up with another town but he lived in an all black town away from the tragedy of Tulsa of the Greenwood community, but his father and their practice was wiped out. And yet, even there there was a there was a hush there was a pall of silence. And so this thing has been has been covered up has been forgotten for decades and decades, but it has begun to be brought back up. It has begun to be. In fact, our beloved attorney brother here in Massachusetts former law professor at Harvard Law School, Charles Ogletree, my DNI colleague when we were at the University of Alabama and Reverend Turner's another professor on the campus then Al Brophy wrote a book on the dream land and on the on what happened there. So things started changing going into the 90s people started pushing in the word of this, and then with the help of Ogletree a lawsuit was launched but you had to get the state government to open the statute of limitations to allow itself to be sued by the by the living survivors, they were living survivors, and yet they could not get anything for the damages and for what they they had endured, or even a recognition So but over time things have changed deep DNI and our family we live there in the early part of 2000 just prior to moving here to the valley and and so it has been quite an effort over the years to see the struggle for for the recognition of what to place almost 100 years ago. Interestingly enough, one other thing and I want to hit our guest, but the actual rebuilding and the rebounding of the Greenwood community of the black community of Tulsa was was almost immediate things we people picked up their lives they began to rebuild and that whole area was growing and became prosperous again, but it was actually in in the 60s and with the interstate highway system and so called urban renewal that ran a highway through the community that really put the death knell into the Greenwood community and really hurt the black the black Wall Street that had rebuilt after 1921 over the decades Vernon AME has rebuilt and they preserve the the the hollowed ground of of of what survived after the bombardment and the destruction. But with all, all of that I want to bring forth our very very special and dear friend colleague comrade and struggle, Reverend Robert Turner Dr. and Dr. Shabazz, I am elated to be here this evening afternoon with you and your lovely wife. I would be remiss if I did not say to the Amherst community, just how blessed they are to have the two of you. They are so incredibly Amherst, Massachusetts, New England, you are blessed to have this man and woman in your midst. They are legend icon and Dr. Shabazz both of them didn't just start even at the University of Alabama before I was a Reverend before I was a doctor before I was a pastor before these two individuals open up their home. I was just a student activist protesting against racism at the University of Alabama. And these two individuals found for the members right could have been putting their jobs gave me counsel to this day. I love the two of you and that means so much to me. In fact, I started using the word comrade from you, like I still call my friends in the struggle. I don't call them friends. I don't call them acquaintances. I don't call them colleagues but battle that we're waging a revolution for liberation and transformation. And so I can't say how much you all mean to me because it's easy now for people, you know, they see you on 60 minutes, they see you on MSNBC, they see you on CNN and all these other places for them to, you know, want to be amenable to you. But you all were amenable to a freshman, 18 year old, 19 year old throughout my whole college career.  Right. And so very few people know me today as just Robert, you know, before anything, and you all do.  As difficult as it is, you all make it sweet to talk about because of the fun that I have. So I forgot your question, but I just want to start off with. So brother, no, we're we're here together. I'm when did you arrive in Tulsa because we were there 2005 to 2007. And I'll tell you those were those were two very good years for us what I think made it so very special was getting to know the Greenwood community and the and the larger community there in in Tulsa. People don't may not know about Tulsa, but it sometimes is in the shadow of the capital city of Oklahoma City, but it has a very interesting history. It has a great tradition of philanthropic corporate and individual philanthropic activity. Great fortunes emerged in the early 1900s with the discovery of oil and the development of the oil petrochemical industries. Other kinds of fortunes were grew up in the area. And, and so the city really blossomed jazz had a jazz music jazz culture grew very strongly there there's a jazz Hall of Fame in Oklahoma. There's annual celebrations of Juneteenth there. We've just found a very strong and vibrant community. Also, I tell people here, because on Martin Luther King Day, our little activities here in the valley are often just so pitiful. Now, partly that's because of the snow is so heavy, but oftentimes but in Tulsa, I would tell folks, man, it would take a lot of Luther King Day was a big event, you'd have huge parades and I can remember marching in the parade going right past in your your church going to one of Vernon AME we'd march right there marching bands from all the, all the high schools and middle schools and, and just community organizations and I mean it was huge the way it would turn out and now the university that I was working for at the time Oklahoma State University has in it has a branch campus that's in the Greenwood community that's right next door to the Greenwood Cultural Center. So it was really a vibrant experience becoming a part of the Tulsa community. It wasn't very long we're only there for two years, but I remember then meeting one of the oldest living survivors of the 1921. I remember then that there were there was of course struggles, the desegregation of the schools they created two major magnet schools George Washington Carver middle and Booker T Washington high. Our son was at the time at Carver middle and was slated to go to Booker T high which had a, which both schools had a impressive academics and great academic reputation. But it was part of attempting to the school desegregation efforts that was still quite quite quite a challenge. Of course poverty poverty poverty was a deep issue so when I see the way you're feeding people the way historic Vernon AME church is feeding people. Hot meals and groceries now I'm so I'm just so moved by by the way you're responding to the needs and the way you've stepped in but why don't you just talk to us about when you've got to Tulsa and what what your experiences like and what's how how you're being guided and moved to do what you do. I first came to Tulsa, Oklahoma, August 26, 2000. And I came here to a church. I came here to pastor church. And that church was historic Vernon and me. I didn't know at the time where I was going. I was just informed by the Bishop that I needed to be prepared to pastor church that needed someone of my skill set. That same night when I got the call from the Bishop by going. I prayed to God because I kind of had a feeling of needing knowing it was something about changing my life. You know, I don't know what it is, but I just want you to know that I say yes to your will. And as soon as I got off my knees. And I see I have a text message from the Bishop asking me about coming to this district and that was like definitely one of those moments where you know it's greater than you. And so when I came to Tulsa, I realized that we are in a place that is very historic. But a lot of people didn't know about the store. Most of my members of the church didn't know that the very place where we were so when I did a well so when I first came I did a tour of the church. And when I saw the cornerstone because you're a historian. And I just love history. A lot of people don't know that the history of that particular church is nine times out of 10 listed on the cornerstone that was laid by the founders and on the church's cornerstone. It has basement built 1919. The sanctuary 1925. And when I told the trustee that was taking me around the church, I said, when they say basement built 1919. I say where is that basement. And he said it's right there. I said, and it's still here right it's the same one. It was like, yeah, same base when we had 1919. I said so do you do you understand what that means. He was like, what do you mean I said, that means that something survived. We have something that survived the massacre. And he was like, yeah, we, we have it. I said no, it's something that survived. And that from that moment, and I'm switching over to my left to my laptop to my cell phone, trying to from that moment. And it gave a sense of hope and and ration for our community to let people know that we have something left from Black Wall Street. We have this huge place called Vernon in the midst of total despair. I'm going to remind us again to brother Robert when you reconnect Reverend Turner, the exact year did anyone else here at my my sound had glitched out a little bit that anyone else here. What year he said was a 2016. Come on in Robert. Are you there Robert. Yes, I'm sorry I pressed the wrong button. Not a problem remind us of the year was a 2016 you got there. 2017 2017, thank you, 2017 when I first came to Tulsa. And it was a year of a year after Terrence Crutch was killed by the police. It was a year that people were still upset that black men were still being killed by police and nothing being done. And once I got to Tulsa, I really felt a sense of duty to the members not just the current members but the members of yesteryear the ancestors that were here that were killed, and whose blood still stains the streets. I felt a sense of duty and obligation. And every time I, even now when I drive up and go to the church, which is every day. I feel their cries, you know, and it reminds me of a book of Genesis that talks about when came killed able and how the blood of able cries out to God from the ground. And, and there's an old Hebrew philosophy that says unjustified blood in the shedding of unjustified blood stains and curses the land. Right and it continues to be that way until something is done to a tone for and I really feel like that that blood has been a stain, you know, in that Greenwood is not what the mayor in the city and really pretty much white Tulsa is trying to make it out to be a tourist site. First and foremost, and so from that, from that awareness, I began to speak out about the need to excavate the bodies where the bodies were done, excavate the mass graves where the bodies were done, and to be a voice for those that can't speak for themselves but to me that cries out to God and if it offends God, if it offends the created offends me and just speaking up and that gives me the passion that I have every Wednesday. So like the first time I went to city hall. It was no one there with me physically but my bullhorn and Bible. But I knew God was with me. I knew and I felt the presence of the ancestors and that cloud of witnesses surrounding me. And so I go, I go rain, sleep, hail, snow, and we do have snow sometimes just to let the world know. And it's not even about me not once have I ever mentioned my name while I was out there, not once I described myself as gender Baptist does in the hospitals as the voice of one crying out in the wilderness. And, and, and that's just because who I am is not important, but the people that I'm commissioned to speak for, you know, are, and just to let the city know in the tradition of, you know, Old Testament prophets, you know, standing at the city gates, you know, letting the powers that be know the tragedy that occurred in this place that has yet to be at home for the father of Cornel West. Wasn't he a pastor then Tulsa to he was, he was, of course, he was before me, but he was a Baptist church right over in the Baptist church. I don't know the name of him, but I have heard and I have not had the pleasure of meeting Dr. Cornel West, but I have been told that he's from Tulsa and that he is very, very knowledgeable about this issue. I'm going to reach out to him and tell him whenever he gets down that way he needs to find that John the Baptist crying out in the wilderness and go and lay hands on your brother and pray with you. And I know he will, he will respond. He's my good brother. I love him dearly and I know he will respond and want to know that someone is carrying on in that in that tradition of John the Baptist. I want to talk a bit about the, the centennial that's coming up. As I've said before, people may think that it's, it's a huge deal in Tulsa. It's, it's been a, it's become a huge thing, because of people working and to making it happen there's a lot of trouble writing his books and the people at the Greenwood Community Center doing cultural center doing their work people have, have pushed to make it make great give it greater awareness, but how are folks preparing for the centennial to be proud that our US Senator Elizabeth Warren is put forward the bill in the Senate Senate to have a federal government recognize this centennial observance. Can you update us. And I know she came down and stood with you. Tell us about that visit tell us about the centennial and where things are. Massachusetts is blessed to have Elizabeth Warren as your champion in the United States Senate she's not just a senator she is a champion for all things progressive, especially as it relates to consumer defense and and making sure that we're not exploited by these corporations, and she has really impressed me on her stance on racial equity. I had the privilege of meeting her. When she came in Tulsa, not even for a political campaign stop she when I met with her. She told me she wanted to just learn right so she met with Hannibal Johnson, she met myself, and she wanted to learn more about what happened here in Tulsa. And she wanted to go to ground zero she wanted to go to the last thing standing, which is the basement of our church. And so she went and she wanted she asked me to pray for her. And I did and since then, we have engaged in a true cordial relationship where she's reached out to me to let me know if I needed anything. She's more than happy to assist and all she can do in the United States Senate. And then, when one of my friends told me from the Human Rights Watch about the resolution that she authored, I said I'm really not surprised because she was like a sponge. When she came to Tulsa, just soaking up all the knowledge and she actually is from Oklahoma. So the story is, is special to her right this is personal for her. And I hope that the Senate gets beyond politics to my understanding there are some folks who upset that she wrote it being from Massachusetts being the senator from Massachusetts. But she still is from Oklahoma, like I'm in Oklahoma now, but I'm from Alabama. So guess what, I'm always going to talk about issues from Alabama, you know, just because you leave your home state doesn't divorce you from still being concerned about it. Right. And so I don't think anything is wrong with her author in that. And I know the makeup of the Senate right now makes that resolution somewhat difficult to pass. But as we get closer to the Centennial. It's going to be hard to be against her resolution. As we get close as we get closer to the Centennial. It is baffling Dr. Shabazz to see how many people now are becoming so called woke, right, as it relates to the race massacre. And how many people now are claiming that they've been knowing them body for so long, nobody just nobody will listen to them and it's, it's really sad to see how the very people that caused the massacre and that were complicit during the massacre are now seeking to profit from the massacre. And that that is sick to me, and I don't miss words of the city of Tulsa for one that was complicit and outright in the sheriff's department outright calls did by deputize members of the white mob and the city, allowed it to happen. The fire department didn't put out one fire the police department didn't investigate or arrest. Now one of those white perpetrators, but now the city of Tulsa is the largest landowner in the Greenwood community. Like, they own all the land around burning every church they own the Greenwood culture. They own the land will always you use that mean, and it's so bad that developers now go to the city to get land to develop downtown in Greenwood. And so their profit to handle with this and now with this in 10 year coming up, they're marketing it as some, you know, big tourist site destination. But when in fact it still is a crime scene. In fact, the only thing in Greenwood that's in its original location are two churches, then it's still on my black people. It's historic Vernon and it's stored Mount Zion and the only building that is still there in its original spot is the basement of our church. Right. And so but you don't hear people talk about that. Because if people come to visit Vernon, you know, that's not giving dollars to the city, you know, that's not giving dollars to private white kids. And they're going to get a real education too. And they're going to get a real education. That's right. So you won't see Vernon on any of the, you know, main brochures. Because we don't fit the image that are in message that they're trying to portray and that's that's to me say and that's why you know the current situation of Vernon without capital building and needing to be restored. That's why it's in the shape is in right because the city in 2002 tried to buy Vernon because they knew the history. And we didn't just say no, because of the offer they offer.  And since then they have not sought to help in anyway. And to this day, it's like they want it to come. But thanks be to God we've got some we're getting support I've been writing grants, but we still need a whole lot more. And even though and even though our capital campaign is underway. We still are feeding right like you said we are using this vessel this space that is crumbling by the minute every time the rain hits every time a wind blows something falls off our church. But we're still using the same building to have not been the only place in Tulsa open every day since COVID-19 sheltering place feeding over 155,000 meals. I think God we're not a mega church at all. I wish we had 150 members, you know, but we have the few faithful members we have. Most of which are senior citizens who remember the greatness of Greenwood and the ancestors of Greenwood, and they're refusing to allow, you know, the demise on their watch. And so I'm humbled to pass to such a remarkable people with the rich legacy. I want you to take a moment to collect. I know you were just getting in. I'm going to share screen now and just play a short video for folks and then we'll come back and I want us to to drill down a little bit specifically on on reparations what it could mean for Tulsa, what it could mean and should mean for the United States of America and African Americans. But let's let's watch this little video for context. We generally call it the catastrophe because we feel like it wasn't a riot. We didn't. We were not perpetrators. We were the victims. But it took 80 years to get the state of Oklahoma to acknowledge that. The Tulsa Race Massacre is believed to be one of the worst incidents of racial violence in American history. From May 31st to June 1st in 1921, as many as 300 people were killed, hundreds were injured and thousands of buildings were destroyed. On June 1st, they began to systematically destroy neighborhoods and they had airplanes dropping things down on people's houses and they had made up their minds to clear the entire area of black people. It started after a newspaper reported a black man tried to sexually assault a white woman, though it's still uncertain what exactly happened. Many did not believe that story. The Oklahoma Historical Society said the most common explanation is Dick Rowland stepped on Sarah Page's foot when he entered the elevator, causing her to scream. A group of armed black men went to the courthouse to offer help protecting Rowland once they heard talks of lynching. A crowd of white men was also on the scene. A shot was fired and the riots began. My parents were very distressed because here they are with five kids and the schools had been. I went to Dunbar School and that was reduced to just rubble. I mean they blew it up. Crowds of white rioters went to the Greenwood district known as Black Wall Street. It was home to an affluent African American community with banks, hotels, theaters and new homes. They took my eight-year-old brother to where they were holding all the black men and we didn't know because we lived on one side of town and they lived on the other. We thought they were locking up the non-blacks too but it so happened that it didn't occur that way. What they did was to disarm and lock up all black men and then they said to the mob, there's nothing out there now but women and children so you can do whatever you want to do. And that was when the real terrible things started to happen. It ended when the city was placed under martial law and National Guard troops were deployed but Black Wall Street was devastated. Survivors never received compensation for what they lost. That's just a little piece that tries to give a little concise introduction to what's going on there. I love the clip of our dear sister there, Dr. Hooker, but let's kind of pick up. I've gotten a few cues of some things that B wants us to also talk about. So before the time of reparations, let's first connect on Black Lives Matter. We talked already about the Terence Crusher, the shooting of Terence Crusher and you're coming in around the time of that case. We also have other things that have happened since then. I believe you all had a street that was painted Black Lives Matter and that's been a bit of a source of contention. And D and I are going tomorrow to Springfield. There's been an effort to try to preserve a mural of Black Lives Matter thing downtown in Springfield that they've been coming out against to eliminate. But we're trying to argue for the value of that. Kind of update us on what's happening there. First of all, Queen Mother Olivia Hooker, who was a member of Vernon, and her father on Hooker's upholstery was run out of town during the massacre. Those were members that we lost and never saw again. And we dearly miss her. In fact, I preached a eulogy memorial service for her after she passed this most recently, I think last year. So, but to update you on where things are, we have this Black Lives Matter mural that was placed on Greenwood. Right after, right during the time when Donald Trump announced he was coming to Tulsa, right at the time on Juneteenth, which was very disgusting. I went on the news and I spoke against it. Then later he changed the date to the Saturday. But still the weekend. And so people painted this Black Lives Matter mural, actually led by this white young lady who I've now had the pleasure of meeting. And that mural has caused, first of all, nobody said anything about it when it was done. But after the fact, we were actually realized, okay, we got up so we got something on the street that says Black Lives Matter. And people are being upset about not our people, but you know, white folks being upset about the FOP came out against it. The head of the Republican Party came out against it. There's some argument about what if we want to put Blue Lives Matter on the street? How they feel about that? First of all, I don't know how in the world people are starting to equate my identity with an occupation. Nobody is born blue. That's an occupation.  So that's one flank of that argument that I used to counter what if we want to put Blue Lives Matter on? There are no blue lives, right? There are people who have jobs where blue uniforms. But there are people who have Black Lives because we're Black. You know, so anyway, the people in the mayor, you know, he's been a coward hiding behind folks who are using those weak arguments. And now he's saying, well, at first he said, well, you know, I've got complaints from people in the Black community, right? And then the folks who he said complained came out and said we hadn't complained about anything. So he was not being honest. And then that's when he said, you know, because I said, well, who was saying this? Just say it. Just don't have how people say who's telling you who they got a problem with. Then it turns out this is the head of the Republican Party and it's blue and the FOP. And then the city council voted. And he said, I'm gonna leave it up to the city council. And we know the city council majority white voted to take it down. But they use the excuse because they got to repay the street. Now, if you look at that street, it's not in that much need of repaid, right? I can show them some streets in the Black community that greatly need to be repaid. But they want to choose to move. Now, they were scheduled to repave the street, but it was supposed to be done like in March. They're scheduled to move it up October. Why the rush? Because of these yellow letters. But what I told people jokingly is that I see how if you're in the Black community and you want to get your streets repaid, just paint the words Black Lives Matter on them and the city will start repaving your streets. It's just, it's sad and sickening that we're, that Tulsa would be one of, I think only two cities that has ever removed Black Lives Matter. And we'll be the largest city in the country because that other city is a small, very small community. But Tulsa will be notorious for yet again, something that's adverse to race relations. And they don't seem to care. They don't seem to care. But in that picture that your screen shows now, you see the little half of a block that they're trying to reduce Greenwood. Greenwood District, Black Wall Street was 36 blocks, city blocks. And now all of that has been gentrified and they reduce that because other people are taking portions of Greenwood. And now it's pretty much reduced to that little half of a block, which is sad, which is so sad. And they don't even want us to have the words Black Lives Matter on that block.  It's owned by the Greenwood Chamber LLC that has a board. And if the board is not majority white, it's very close to it. So it is really sad the current state of affairs in Greenwood. Now, Robert, that highway there, I forget the number of it. 244. What's it called again? 244. 244. That if you continue going down the right from where matter is and keep going, that takes you to historic Vernon doesn't it? That's right. That's right. Absolutely. Right after 244. That's right. And then OSU is back there too. That's right. You know it. You know it well. And so they put that interstate highway through the heart of Greenwood. And that did it. and that killed it. And that depressed property value. So when urban renewal came, we call it urban removal. People were selling their properties pennies on the dollar. And also if you look behind in the far north corner of the screen that's on the page right now, that's the baseball field. Further gentrification. We didn't ask for a baseball field, but they put that baseball field in the heart of Greenwood. And guess who owns it? The city. You know, the city is the largest landowner in the Greenwood district. And all this land belongs to them. In any building you see, that developer got permission and purchased the land from the city. So they're profiting off of the massacre that they caused. Meanwhile, they don't want to pay reparations. Now historic Vernon AME on your website, you have a link or something where someone would want to contribute to the work of its maintenance and restoration. There is a link there, didn't I see that? Yes, sir. It's called Blessing the Basement. If you click on that, it will route you to I think GoFundMe page. Okay. That's VernonAME.com is the website. And giving, it has a giving link on the mask head right there and then there's the Bless the Basement and all the links are there for how you can bless this site that has been placed on the National Register of Historic Places. It was placed there in August of 2018. So that is your opportunity. Those of you watching this program to be able to contribute, to bless the basement and to help historic VernonAME continue into the future. Let's, you know, we say reparations and I'm so glad to have that concept, to have that idea beginning to be talked about more and people wanting to enact that more.  You've been calling out for reparations as part of that cry in the wilderness. What are some of the responses that you're getting? What are some things that you can tell us? And from there, we'll go into some questions and answers because we do have people that are online that might have some things to ask you. But just talk a bit about reparations as you are grappling with it and Tulsa and beyond. Reparations really come from the root word repair. Describes what you do after you have caused damage, right? You repair. It's something that you learn even as a child when my cousins were making Legos or my son who loves to play with Legos when he builds a Lego and his older brother comes and destroys what he just built. He has to repair that. It's something that is ingrained in you as a person. If you have what we call home training, you know how important it is to repair from the home that you've caused. So at its basic rudimentary level, reparations is repaired. Now, the longer you go from the home, the greater the damage, right? So what was a destroyed Lego set, now because my younger son may have walked on those Legos that were destroyed on the ground, now his foot is injured, right? And now blood is coming out of his foot and now his foot has got infected.  Just use that as an analogy. And now feet may be having to be amputated. And now that reduced the kind of job he can have later on in life because he's an amputee. And now that reduces his quality of life and that changes the kind of house he can have and the kind of car he can own. So you see how by not repairing something doesn't eradicate it. It exacerbates it. And what we have in this country is we've had a whole lot of Legos destroyed. And never been repaired for. And this country seemingly, because one of the responses I get is that, nobody likes reparations. Like reparations is a taboo word. Ooh, you can't say that word reparations because people just don't like it. And I say, that's not true. If you studied American policy, both foreign and domestic, reparations is something that America readily does. They've done it to every group that has been marginalized. They've done it in the 1980s to the Japanese-Americans for who were placed in internment camps. And I support that, right? We pay it annually. Every year the Congress, I think last year was $5 million appropriated to the survivors of the Jewish Holocaust. And I support that, right? They should get reparations. They should get payments. But if it's good for the Jewish-Americans, if it's good for the Japanese-Americans, why is it not good for the African-Americans? And it has to be because of race. Like there's no other, I mean, what distinguishes what happens to the Japanese-Americans being placed in internment camps in the 1940s and then to what happened to folk in Greenwood who were placed in concentration camps during the race massacre. What distinguishes and what happened in the Holocaust was terror. It's human tragedy. People were killed. Guess what? We had human tragedy in 1921. People were killed. And we had almost a center of denial. And then if you want to take it back even further to slavery, 1619, we haven't got reparations for anything. And so the damages are compounding. And so if it's good for everybody, in fact, now I support reparations for Japanese-Americans and Jewish-Americans, but a group I don't support reparations for is a group that got it by this country. We pay reparations to slave owners. After the Civil War, we paid reparations and after the American Revolution, they paid reparations. And so I'm like, how can we pay? I went to the University of Alabama. You talked there. There's a plaque on Manly Hall that says this was built in reparations to the South for the devastation and burning down of the campus during the Civil War. The U.S. Congress passed an act that gave 140,000 acres of land that the university sold. And they used the money from that sale to rebuild the University of Alabama campus that was used at the time during the Civil War to train Confederate soldiers. So how in the world can you pay soldiers who committed treason, who killed American soldiers during the Civil War? How can you enslave people and pay their enslaver and pay the folk who fought against you to enslave them, but not pay the slaves? So this country doesn't have a problem with reparations. This country has a problem with black people. What's that? I'm muting and then I'm unmuting. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can. We're opening up to see if some of the folks that are on the line might have something they'd like to raise if they can unmute themselves. I believe they can unmute themselves if they would like to do that. Those who wish through the chat room or on Facebook or YouTube, we will also monitor those and try to get your questions in for the remainder of the time that we have. Feel free. When you ask your question, this is Dr. Demetria Chavaz. Hello, when you ask your question, can you please identify yourself as well? Thank you. And we have put in the chat information about the link to the Build the Bless the Basement campaign and we've put other things in the chat if you wanna take a look there for some of the links about things that we have talked about, the GoFundMe and other ways. I have a quick clarifying question of Reverend Robert Turner.  It's just seeing a young person like you really just emerge and do good work in whatever community you find yourself. It is just inspiring and it makes us both, my husband and partner really feel that what we do is worthwhile. So it's such an honor to have you here. The mural, I know that there was a news article threatening that they were going to repave the road and you had talked about that the road didn't need repaving. What type of coalition came about to save the mural there in Greenwood? Well, I wish that you, I hope that you are a prophet and God saves it. Oh, okay, yeah, that's why I needed a clarifying question. I hope that you're right. Right now the city council has voted to repave it and the mayor has yet to accept that recommendation. It looks like he will definitely, he stated in other venues that he will support what the council votes for. But I mean, to me, we need leadership right now. That would be a terrible look for the city of Tulsa to be one of two cities in the whole world. Like because Black Lives Matter murals are all over the world and Tulsa to be, if they do this and to actually see demolition of those letters, of those words would be a terrible look on a city that is trying to present itself as some bastion of a standard barrier for how you handle race relations. It will completely take the emperor's clothes off and expose the naked reality that is Tulsa is not much different if at all than what she was in 1921. But the coalition that has formed Dr. Shabazz is a truly remarkable site to see young white women and men and Black people and indigenous people once there was, because somebody did a blue streak on the Black Lives Matter mural like a few weeks ago and to see all of us out that evening to repaint the Black Lives Matter mural was something special to see. These are young, unattached, like these folk come from various political strikes, various socioeconomic strikes, even various faith and some no faith, but believe in the principle of humanity and that all lives can't matter into Black Lives Matter. So that is a coalition that I know will continue on despite what the city does. And honestly, I hope if they do repaint it, that we repaint it again, you know, and just as we can do this as long as they want to as silly as it is, we still have people who don't even like reading the word Black Lives Matter. Let it roll. Reverend Turner, and you know, I like saying Reverend Turner because there was another Reverend Turner back in the 1830s. Yes, sir. That's why they did a lot for our people. A true patriot. Yes, sir. But we do have a question online here and I should say as well, I heard you say all lives can't matter until Black Lives Matter. I know you saw your boy Nick Saban and the roll tied out in the streets. Yes. And there are video on that too. That was quite a shot. I love it. I loved it too. I love it. Question. I love it. Says, what are some of the ways that lower middle class or poor white people can incorporate the concept and action of reparations into their lives? Yeah, I think that's a great question. I get that a lot from the individual. Like how can I as an individual bring about reparations? And to me, it's really about the essence of who did the wrong doing it, right?  Like the government, the church, the schools. I was so encouraged to see Georgetown give reparations to those slaves that worked on their campus. It's important for them to do direct action first, right? And what that means for an individual is they lobby their elected official, right? Because pretty much anything you see built before 1865 was made by slave hands, period. So that includes your schools. That includes your homes. That includes your churches. That includes your government buildings. Anything you see in this country built before 1865, nine times out of 10, it was made by black slave hands, nine times out of 10, especially if it was massive. And so as an individual, I think it is important to help build this critical mass of support in this rainbow coalition of folks who are not just black who are calling their legislators in favor of reparations. Not being afraid to do that, right? Because what the legislators say is that their poor white constituents don't feel like they should have to pay for reparations because if the government does, it will come from some sort of tax, right? So as money we pay into the government. But if poor whites or middle-class whites call their legislators and say, hey, I don't mind my tax dollars going to reparations, my tax dollars going to stuff right now in Mars. I will never live in Mars. My tax dollars right now are going to studies on things as mundane as how blue is blue and how green is green. Why shouldn't my tax dollars go to study the worst and original sin of America, which is racism, slavery. HRR 40 should be a no-brainer. It's not even a reparations payment bill. It's a reparations study bill. Who is against the study of all the crazy things we study in this country?  That's a joke. So that's what I would encourage her or him to do. Also, always good to know your genealogy and to know what role did your family play in it. You may be pleasantly surprised that your family was a great supporter of poor blacks or slaves. And you may find something more troubling, but it is important to know the truth, right? It's important for all of us to know the truth. And I think once we all know the truth, we will have a easier path in knowing what our next step should be. I think that's a great answer, Robert.  You can add to that cry and the wilderness to say, hey, I wanna see justice. I want things, you know, done right. I want to be a part of repairing the damage that has been done. Dita, you have any other questions and can you give me a time check? Well, we are at 6.02, but you know, if we could have a, maybe one or two more questions, if folks do have them, otherwise we can begin to close out. I'd like to know, Robert, what are some of the next steps you've told us to write our senators? There's someone saying they definitely are gonna write and thanks Senator Elizabeth Warren. I think that's a no-brainer for those who are listening in and watching. We have a great senator who is not only supporting people here in the state of Massachusetts, but also in her home state of Oklahoma. So I think that should be definitely applauded. What are some next steps that you and your congregation are taking? I know some of the troubling things that I've seen on the internet and in the news have been some of the harassment that you have endured at Mount Vernon, you and your church members. Can you speak to what are the some of the next steps that you all are working on until? Yes, I will. And before I answer that, I wanna say that whoever writes the letter to Senator Warren, please tell her that you heard about that from this difficult dialogue done by Dr. Shabazz and Shabazz. Because it is important to let her know who is sounding the alarm. Because I'm sure, I know M. Hersey has several endowments, but I'm sure that this program could use any type of support that they can get. So if you do write a letter, tell her you heard Reverend Dr. Turner on the difficult dialogues hosted by Dr. Meerkart and Demetra Shabazz. And then tell her how great of a person she is for that resolution. Well, Amherst Media, real quick, we'll be happy to hear that because there are partners in this. And definitely thank you to Faith and Jeff for helping us do this live broadcast today. So I just wanted to make sure. Just say it. Hey, hey, hey brother, I just wanted to weigh in. And this is Ed Cage out of Amherst, Mass. And I recently was there to visit with you, but you were very busy. I talked to Paul and- Oh man. Yes, yes. It was a great feeling to be in that environment. My dad lives there in Tulsa in Broken Arrow. And he was so excited about the whole thing, but you were busy. And we came back to tell us Shabazz's, why I told him that I had visited the church and it was the energy was amazing. Thank you for what you're doing for being taking the bold action to stand out and stand up and speak out. I just, I really appreciate it. I thank God for you and your congregation and the people that will rally with you in the efforts of making change, brother. Man, I really appreciate that. And it pains me, one of the negative parts about getting visibility is not being able to meet with people that just come into my office. They happen again today. Somebody came and I'm on this call and so they missed it. But I really hope that you can find time to come back and I would love to sit with you. My schedule has just become insane recently. And so to answer your question, Dr. Shabazz, what we're trying to do here at Vernon is kind of what the brother mentioned. We give tours like on a daily basis to anybody that come. We love to try to tell the story of Vernon of Greenwood. We are in this fight. And anytime you're seeking change, there can be no progress without struggle. I think Frigid Douglas said that. And there is great struggle. See, he says, well, there's no struggle, there's no progress. And right now there's a great struggle in this city. And it has shown its face physically to me with the harassment and the assault that I saw at City Hall. And it was a terrible moment. It has shown its face, even people driving by the church and throwing eggs at someone who they thought was me because they looked like me. And it has caused us to enhance our security. And for security reasons, I won't say what those measures are because I don't know who I was watching this. But I'm very much so a believer in, as David said, my rod, that rod and that staff shall come from me. And so I do believe in making sure that we are wise as a serpent, but homeless as a dove. And so I won't go much more into that besides you all keeping us lifted up in prayer. This work is not easy. There have been some very difficult days, very tense moments in the several marches that I've led. And I even, I pray for those participants in the marches. We have children coming to our protest. I mean like children. And their parents wanting them to be a part of this movement, which is so powerful for me to see. And we have a diverse coalition of people who are coming to lend their voice and give up their time. And so I'm humbled by the trust people's display and have given, but I'm even more so humbled by the fact that Amherst College in Massachusetts, one of the most prestigious institutions of how I learned in the world, invited me today. And so I've just, I mean, I'm indebted to you all. And anytime you wanna carry on this conversation again, I'll be more than amenable to it. Well, let me- Well, we are prestigious, but you're gonna correct them there, huh, Sean? No, no, no, we have a viewership involving Amherst College, our small liberal arts four-year college. We're of course at the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts, which is a comprehensive university. And we also have our own little Hampshire College here, as well as Mount Holyoke and Smith College. So we have a whole five colleges in the ocean. I hope as this COVID-19 limit wanes and we are able to invite guests up here to speak and to fellowship with us, that people hearing this, part of our students in Afro-American studies and steppic social thought and political economy and other programs will reach out and think of bringing you up here to share more with us in the days post COVID. And I hope that as people watch this, they will see that. Springfield, our big city, just 20 minutes away, there's Gardner Memorial, AME Zion, there's Bethel, African and Methodist Episcopal Church. We have an AME Zion right here in Amherst, Goodwin Memorial. I know that's a slightly different nomination, but I'm only saying that, you know, whether it's in the church, whether it's on our campuses or just community organizations, I do really look forward after COVID when we can actually have you out here in person to interact and to build with us. And so, yes, any others, any other parting observations or thoughts? I've mentioned in the chat, the brother that spoke to your Ed Cage, he and his wife, Vera Cage, are social justice warriors. There are comrades here, we've been doing so much in the community across Massachusetts with the Asian American Commission and in other ways, but his father, Ed Cage Sr., is there and we'll have to definitely send the word that even until Ed Jr. can get down there too, that he should feel free to go over and try and visit, maybe volunteer, help hand out some of the groceries or something, wherever you can put them to work. And yes, that's what we're gonna see. Tom, is that Tom here? Yeah, Tom is here from our Bridge for Unity. We have Felicia Savine here. We thank all of you. Sandy Mendel, former colleague of mine at UMass. Thank you all so much for being a part of this. Lindsay Goldfarb, if the names on the streams are accurate, we really appreciate everyone that joined in that way. My student in the Du Bois department, Jose Gonzalez, was on through the Facebook stream, Eli Bonder. We really appreciate all of you joining us from the Jewish Congregation of Amherst, the Sadek Initiative. I see Jeff here. We were just with them yesterday. So really, we appreciate this whole coming out to witness and welcome our brother, Robert Turner. He brings, speaks from a very deep well of truth and inspiration. When we met, it was actually around history. We were really fighting. Folks had really gotten activated because it was discovered that there were African ancestors who had been enslaved, who was enslaved on the campus. That's right. Of the University of Alabama. They worked for no wages and were enslaved on the campus and they were buried on the campus, right by one of the science buildings. Biology building. And yet there was no marker, there was no nothing at all. It was as though they came, they went, they never were, they were unimportant and yet as Reverend Turner was saying, they built the campus. They gave their lives for the campus with no remuneration and then not even a marker to say, hey, they're buried here. And I'll tell you, it was Robert Turner and other students that sparked up and said, no mice, not while we're here. We may all be graduating in a year or two, but we're going to leave something behind. And that change was put into effect. There is a marker there. You can go on that campus now and by that building and you'll see the marker. And this is what we've all got to learn everywhere we are, whether as students, whether as pastors, whether as professors, whether in whatever walks of life, whatever class station that while we're here, do something, be part of repairing the history, repairing our memory and repairing the social structure that holds society together to be more just and to ameliorate the harm that has been done. So again, thank you, thank you, thank you so much for joining us. We'll have to do this again and stay updated on things to come. I'm going to put the word out to Senator Warren. Maybe we can get her in a panel here as well following up on this, because we've got to get that bill moved out of the Senate and into law and get Trump. If he had the whatever to go to Tulsa on Juneteenth to have a campaign rally, then let him show up for signing that bill, for pushing on his Republican colleagues in the Senate and in the House to sign into law the bill commemorating the centennial and to put some resources behind helping the last thing standing, helping historic Vernon and helping other parts of the Greenwood community to show to the nation, to show to the world that yes, this great and unnecessary and just racist tragedy of white supremacy happened here. But here we are a hundred years later and we're stronger and we're more united against anti-black racism than ever before. Let that be, let that bill go forward and approve us to have a really significant centennial this coming May, acknowledging and into June, acknowledging June 1, acknowledging what happened in Tulsa and acknowledging that this will never, ever happen again. Let us learn from history and let us go forward to make a new history that is based on justice. Thank you again. Thank you one and all for being a part of this.


Myself, Mr. Akshay Kumar Suvde, Assistant Professor, Mechanical Engineering Department. Today, we will study Harnel Governor, Learning Outcome. At the end of this session, student will be able to derive and determine the stiffness of the spring, centrifugal force at minimum and maximum as well as intermediate position of the balls. So, Harnel Governor is a spring-controlled governor as shown in the figure. It consists of two bell crank levers, pivoted at 0.00 and attached to the frame. The frame is fitted on the spindle of the governor and the frame also rotates with the spindle. Each lever carries a ball at the end of vertical arm OB as well as a roller at the end of the horizontal arm. A helical compression spring is provided on the spindle which will provide an equal downward force on the roller through the collar on the sleeve. This compression of the spring can be adjusted by tightening or loosening the nut at the top of the spindle. Now, consider the minimum and maximum position of the Harnel Governor, where small m is the mass of the ball in kg, capital letter m for mass of the sleeve in kg, r 1 and r 2, minimum and maximum radius of rotation of the ball in meters, omega 1 and omega 2, angular speed of the governor at minimum and maximum radius in radians per second respectively. S1 and S2 spring force exerted on the sleeve at omega 1 and omega 2 in Newton respectively, f c 1 and f c 2 centrifugal force at a speed of omega 1 and omega 2 respectively. Small letter S represents the stiffness of the spring or the force required to compress the spring in by 1 mm. S is the length of the vertical arm of the ball arm of the lever and y is the length of the horizontal or sleeve arm of the lever in meter. R is the distance of the fulcrum, O from the axis of the governor or the radius of rotation of the governor is in mid position in meter. Now, we will consider the two positions that is as shown in the figure minimum position and maximum position. So, consider the forces acting on one bell crank lever of the Harnel Governor. So, let us consider H is the compression of the spring due to change in the radius of rotation from R1 to R2. So, let us consider the minimum position of the governor. So, when the radius of rotation changes from R2 to R1, what will be the compression of the spring that we will determine. So, H1 is the compression due to the change in radius of rotation R2, R1. Hence from the figure A, we can calculate the compression of the spring H1 divided by y is equal to A1 divided by x. So, A1 is nothing but R minus R1 and therefore, H1 upon y is equal to R minus R1 divided by x and therefore, compression of the spring at minimum position it is R minus R1 divided by x into y. This is your equation number 2. Similarly, for the maximum speed position, the radius of rotation changes from R to R2 where the compression of the spring is represented by H2 and therefore, for maximum position H2 divided by y is equal to A2 divided by x and therefore, H2 divided by y is equal to A2 is R2 minus R1. So, R2 minus R divided by x and therefore, H2 is equal to R2 minus R divided by x into y. So, this is your equation number 2. So, the total compression of the spring is nothing but summation of equation 1 and 2. So, H is equal to H1 plus H2 and therefore, H is equal to R2 minus R1 into y by x. This is equation number 3. Now, we will take the moment about the pivot point of the fulcrum where y1, x1 these are the obliquity effect of the arms of the bell crank lever. So, taking the moment about point O, we will get mg plus S1 taking the moment about point O mg plus S1 divided by 2 into perpendicular distance y1 then mg into A1. So, mg into A1 is equal to centrifugal force acting on the fly ball fc1 into x1. So, mg plus S1 divided by 2 is equal to fc1 into x1 minus mg into A1. So, I can rewrite this equation mg plus S1 is equal to 2 by y1 in bracket fc1 into x1 minus mg into A1. This is my equation number 4 and similarly taking the moment about point O at maximum position I will get mg plus S2 divided by 2 into y2 is equal to fc2 into x2 minus plus mg into A2 and therefore, mg plus S2 is equal to 2 by y2 into fc2 into x2 plus mg into S2 minus S1 is equal to 2 divided by y2 into fc2 multiplied by x2 plus mg into A2 minus 2 upon y1 into fc1 into x1 minus mg into A1. Now, as we know the stiffness of the spring is defined as it is the spring force required to compress the spring by 1 mm and therefore, S2 minus S1 is equal to S into H and therefore, stiffness of the spring is difference between the spring force divided by the compression of spring and hence forth it is equal to S2 minus S1 divided by R2 minus R1 multiplied by x upon y. So, this is your equation number 5. Now, if the obliquity effect of the arms of the bell crank lever is not considered or neglected then x1 is equal to x2 is equal to x, y1 is equal to y2 is equal to y and moment due to the weight of the ball is also neglected then taking the moment about the pivot point O at minimum position then mg plus S1 divided by 2 into y is equal to fc1 into x and therefore, mg plus S1 is equal to 2 times fc1 into x divided by y. Therefore, for maximum position taking the moment about point O mg plus S2 divided by 2 into y is equal to fc2 into x and hence forth mg plus S2 is equal to 2 times fc2 into x divided by y. So, from equation 6 and equation 7 if we deduct equation 7 7 minus 6 therefore, S2 minus S1 is equal to 2 times fc2 minus 2 times fc1 into x upon y and therefore, you will get 2 into fc2 minus fc1 into x upon y and therefore, stiffness of the spring small s is equal to S2 minus S1 divided by h. Hence, S2 minus S1 that will be S2 minus S1 divided by R2 minus R1 into x upon y. So, putting the value of S2 minus S1 you will get S is equal to 2 times fc2 minus fc1 divided by R2 minus R1 into x upon y bracket square. This is your equation number 8. References the references are taken from theory of machines by R. S. Kurmi. Thank you.


Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan met with Greek Prime Minister Kiryakos Mitsotakis on an Athens on December 7, in a visit both countries hope can reboot ties after years of friction. Erdogan earlier held talks with President Katerina Sakilaropoulos, where he sounded an upbeat note on the future of Greco-Turkish relations. Erdogan and Mitsotakis were expected to make statements later in Greece and Turkey. Neighbors and NATO allies have been at odds for decades over issues, including where they're. Global shelves start and end, energy resources, overflights of the Aegean Sea, and ethnically split Cyprus. They reached the brink of war in the 1990s and over the past years they have argued over energy resources in the eastern Mediterranean, defense issues, migration, and the acquisition of fighter jets, which paused diplomatic talks. Relations improved after Greece sent aid to Turkey following a devastating earthquake in February. Both Erdogan and Greek Prime Minister Kiryakos Mitsotakis re-elections this year also eased political pressure and allowed them to put rivalry aside.


Here, Don says, that is so wrong. Men should not have to always pay. I'm just gonna jump in this conversation. Listen, when I shared the story of taking that female friend out for dinner, I said right up front before we went out, I said, I'm gonna pay. Because I wanted to come from a place of generosity. It was just a friend. I believe that the idea of men should pay is an old outdated idea, especially now that women can make as much or in depth more than any individual man that they go out with. Forgetting the collective, if you're a woman who makes $150,000 a year and you're with a man who makes $120,000 a year, you can make more than a man. Number one, paying for a date is not a man's responsibility. There, I said it. Now, if he was raised the way I was raised, it's an expectation for us to do it. But I don't like that it's an expectation. I don't, I don't like that. Because it's not coming from a place of generosity. It's not coming from a place of my heart. It's coming from any woman who expects it, in my mind, is a taker if she expects it. Now, we can all say, well, Jonathan, men are doing the asking out. Well, when you're meeting someone online for the first time and the guy takes the initiative, that's not really asking you out on a date. That's basically saying, I wanna meet you. Let's get together. So I would prefer that human beings in the beginning stages take turns. Man picks up the tab the first time. Woman picks up the tab the next time. He picks up the tab the next time. She picks up the tab. And after you've gone on three or four or five dates, depending on who makes the most money, the person who makes the most, should contribute the most to the entertainment. It is, now some of you women will say, Jonathan, we women spend all this money getting dressed up for a date. Ladies, when you're meeting a guy for the first time, are you dropping a couple hundred bucks on your outfit, your hair and everything? And if you are, that's on you, that's not on him. What about the $80,000 education he had to pay for? What about the $80,000 car he had to pay for?   Would you go out at night on the town? No. So why should that be a man's responsibility?  And for the woman who might not like what I'm saying or any of the women, you don't have to follow my channel. These are just my thoughts, my perceptions, my opinions by no means do I suggest this is the truth. You have to decide the truth for yourself. I'm a bit of a contrarian. My advice goes contrary to public opinion and traditional expectations. I would prefer women and men take turns in the beginning stages and then having a serious conversation about it.   It's important to talk about this stuff because here's the bottom line. Do you know the number one cause for divorce is money?  And by the way, I'm speaking to the men here too, any men watching this. So I'm not talking about splitting the bill on the first date for anyone who might say that. Although I think it's very generous when a woman says, hey, I like to pick up the valet. I'd like to pick up the tip. I'd like to pick up the ice cream afterwards. Demonstrate that you're actually a contributor instead of a taker.  And then there are women who don't show appreciation. A lot of men, like myself included, I can't tell you how many countless dates I've been on where I didn't feel appreciated that I picked up the tab. I did that out of generosity. I mean, well, quite frankly, I did that out of expectation. A man should never do, by the way, should a man expect sex from you?  How would you feel if that was the expectation?  Well, that's how it might feel to us if you expect it from us. All right, I went off. I'll probably lose some subscribers right as I speak, but I think it was an important conversation I have. Does anyone agree with me say, Jonathan, I agree with what you said about paying for dates? I agree with what you said about paying for dates. Please let me know. Okay, all right. You know what? Kit Kat says most men do expect sex regardless of paying for dates. And that's, by the way, that's asinine to expect sex just like expecting men to pay. AM says, I agree with Jonathan. Janet says, I agree with Jonathan. Thank, well, you didn't say Jonathan. Jennifer says, I love your rants. It made me LOL. Thank you so much. Jennifer says, I agree. Oh, you said that. Thank you. All right, Kit Kat says, I agree with you. Thank you so much. Folks. Oh, Arlene says, I believe in contributing only when I see there is effort on their part. Again, that's an expectation, Arlene. What about the, where's the effort on your part? What effort are you showing a man? By the way, that's the key piece because there's a bit of entitlement with that comment. There's a bit of entitlement. I need to see effort. Well, what effort are you giving? Folks, I gotta tell you, people are takers in the early stages. Women are just as bad as men.  By the way, I say this with a lot of love, a lot of reverence, a lot of care, but I'm just letting you know, what effort do you demonstrate? And then, okay, and I'm all in favor of investment and effort and see if it's matched, I'm all. But what are you doing in the first date to demonstrate effort? You just showed up. Is that effort? He shows up. Okay. WVE says, I agree. Watch me pull dance. True feminine is a good for both men and women. What hurts women, what hurts women, hurts men and vice versa. I agree. Deborah says, I agree with what you say about paying for dates. Mary says, I agree with you said for paying for dates. Thank you.  I agree with what you said about paying for dates, needed to be said. Thank you so much. Kimberly says, I agree. I've been taken before and it feels terrible to be used. Exactly. Kit Kat says, Jonathan says it how it is. Amen. Oh, I love it. Linda says, I'm old school and I don't agree. Well, I hope it's working. By the way, folks, you can do whatever you want. You can do whatever you want. Just remember, the number one cause for breakups or divorces is money. Daniela says, I agree with what you said about paying for dates. I really do. I want to tell you, I perceive your genuine advice. Thank you so much. Janet says, I'm retired and I always pay I always pay or pay. Thank you. All right. This is me, I think our last question today from.