feels like really immature very immature Hello mohler Just because efap just before efap. I finished watching the 1978 superman movie It might be my favorite movie even as years go by I still feel inspired watching christopher reeves superman Also, howdy rags and fringy Hello, hey It would make a lot of sense to be inspired in that movie. It's it's it's from a different era We're not allowed to do that anymore. I don't think But heroes can't be heroic and wonderful and they can't do things like work with law enforcement It's just it's it's such a I like that movie quite a bit.  Is this guy still bothering you? Like civilians. I've got to help them Just like it's so generic almost, but I'm just like, oh my god. Where's this been? I miss this It's almost not generic anymore because we don't see it anymore. It's become like a like a Parity of the thing that used to be real But it's been so long that you can do it now and kind of get away with it It's probably um, I find the tick incredibly charming.  It's just like I love this guy You are facing the tick Yeah, and uh, I don't know enough grim dark. Can we get something that's just like chill? Yeah, just one chill thing Yeah, that would be neat Modern art was literally CIA propaganda. Look it up I think I'm good. All right, uh any of you masses watched kung fury Yeah, I think I did. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. Wait, which one was that? David Hasselhoff and the raptors and Uh loads rifle in dim bunker. I just wanted to grill I know that feel man. I just wanted to play video games, you know Like luigi's men's new yorbs Just let me play luigi's match God's not dead for efat movies when No promises, all right, who knows Uh Watch paint dry. There's a huge plot hole on how the paint goes from wet to dry. It makes no sense. Hi rags Hi Yeah, I was a little bit confused by that part in the film.  What is this? Paint doesn't even have an arc. I think there was no character.  They don't when they dry quote-unquote. They don't actually dry They just they physically turn like in a son of cellular level They turn from a solid to a or sorry from a liquid to a solid structure. They don't dry out Is that what he's referring to maybe I don't think so like maybe paint is the same way where it just Chemically it doesn't dry like the the moisture or whatever it is inside It doesn't evaporate eventually it it just physically Like combines with the oxygen in the air or something and I don't know. I don't know Um absurdism stare into the void and laugh at its face Oh, yeah do it Uh, the ghost's on a diet of burritos. I heard that's how you get lots of muscles like abbey.  Yeah, I'd want to destroy those Uh, yeah, that's like a standard approach to uh Covering that up right clothing is one of the first things you want to take care of Especially got blood splatters on So well done fringy for having your point proven also I claim complete and total credit for the debate for getting metal to say debate sk on stream Oh Wait, what was me? It's all your fault now.  You were you were just a Nameless force and some proxy war between two other people I mean, yeah, that's just my stream. I know There's a congrats on uh having a point proven fringy Oh Fringies is thank you fringies is thank you Uh, hello rags. What are a few gameplay improvements you would make to re2 remake? um I I haven't played it that much and I don't care that much about it to really think um Uh, I don't know honestly. I'd have to think more about it and delve back into the game again, but If I if by suggesting things I would essentially just Be it I would change things mechanically that I like and I would try to do it in a balanced way But that would probably just change what the game is Uh, so I don't know Alrighty then You guys hear kate kane got recast recently. Yeah, we've not seen it. Um, but I we're aware of it Twitter wouldn't allow me to be not aware of it the uh The batwoman stuff will be starting back up now model combat has had its day Hope you guys enjoyed that one. That was an easy three hour efab movies And I am genuinely going to be looking forward to doing the two sequels Uh So get it done hollywood assuming that they are going ahead with this equal to the 2021 one. I don't know How about get rid of coal young that'll be a great start Who's coal young main character? Oh, yeah He died tragically of a brain aneurysm in between films I say tragically, but yeah Like I would I would want them To to to be like Just there's just a corpse in the first scene. Then nobody ever uses it and you can just tell it's him. Yeah It's been nobody even regards. I mean, thank god. He's dead um Hello, you beautiful massives have to recommend the lord the rings audiobook by phil dragash or drag dragish I don't know. Uh incredibly immersive and has the music from the films. Hey Oh, that's a good idea There you go. Anybody looking for something like that? We're nuts Apparently kathleen kennedy's contract is up at lucas film and she's not getting reinstated I I've heard that a lot. I I've heard so many is kathleen kennedy gone things. I'm skeptical But if that's the case, I mean good I don't know man. I feel like stars is dead regardless, but sure. Yeah, you know, let's hope Let's let's hope I don't know. Why is really big? Why people saying that though? I don't know. I don't know. That's why I'm like if that's true good I mean she was not like maybe because uh the day for lonely promotion, but that was executive creative Officer, right and she's like the head I think that's a different thing. Yeah. Yeah. She's well. I'm confident in the different things. Yeah Yeah I don't know. Maybe I mean, maybe she is out or she she won't be around much longer. Maybe she's gonna get movie bobbed and If that's the case then you know good You wonder though, because I'm pretty sure she's like want to be I mean her tenure at uh um Lucas her uh lucas film has not been like the highlight of her career But overall she's made a lot of money over the course of her career Because she's exactly produced a lot of spielberg's movies Yeah And she hasn't left apparently so like she's still there um I think they were saying her contract is going to be up. Oh, but then I guess they might just renew it again Not only, you know, we will see sort of stuff, but like let's just say they announced officially. She's leaving lucas film She's being replaced by ronald mcfist or some person We just we don't even know that I just be like hold your horses everybody. It could get worse. Yeah, I'm not saying it's I'm gonna say yeah, it's I'm not saying it's gonna change much, but it's you'll roll the dice is what you're saying. Yeah Yeah, I'll absolutely. Yeah, sure. Yeah, something different. Yeah. Yeah there's Pat To the person who asked in efat mini 138 catch up about how to make good puzzles This is not comprehensive But I think the first important step is to establish a very clear defined simple but robust rule set and then a bunch of garbage to learn Well, like portal, right? And that's a that's a really good example of that a fundamentally simple mechanic with lots of different I think that's how most puzzle games do it again And they've drip feed you the um the changes, right? And then they have puzzles that integrate the older things you should know about already to be like oh now What are you gonna do? Like oh my god Oh, I gotta go upstairs. What am I doing? Uh puzzle setters is an otherwise rather niche hobby too that could be worth looking into Even looking into the old standards with well-set institutions around them like those who create sudoku puzzles and crosswords Fair enough puzzle setters is that like a A particular brand of thing or is that a general like you you set puzzles? I don't really yeah, I'm not sure Um In generic terms now that you have your defined rule set ask yourself What rule or method you want to test and challenge your player with? Know where you want to end and establish where you want to start and then you can use that question to chart a path That's the thing. I haven't really thought too far into um How to how to go about constructing puzzle sort of maps and gameplay, but um, I'm sure there's lots you could uh Give advice to that would would really help I like to do like me more puzzle games. It's a fun And uh that is up to date on stream labs and the stream we're in right now I'm gonna read some from 138.  Sonic xd did a great video on it also has 48 cuts in one minute Impressive um The uh, I'm pretty sure when we were watching it.  It's not a wacky conspiracy They have admitted that they funded modern art to show how free the usa is all right I don't think it changes the fact that plenty of people Create and love modern art So um, that would be what we're addressing more so More or might I interest you in a screen crush video avengers why ultron was right and knew about the scarlet witch It's quite tizmy I'm I don't want crazy fan theories for how it's all gonna make sense when you think about the whole mcu in terms of where It's that or anything Ultron was retarded. There's no way around it He was very dumb.  So I don't know how we beat him at that point Be really hard But they did and they didn't really address it Resident evil and a vp are the same movie same director and writer both have an underground structure. That's blue booby traps Yeah, I mean, you know, there are similarities, but yeah, just because they both star that black guy And he gets turned into cubes in both of them as well That's just a coincidence.  I'm not sure He just likes cutting that guy up into squares Do you guys ever use the punisher pistol in re4? I usually sell it Um from memory. I'm not sure the original pistol on re what the punisher pistol on re4 I sell it. Uh, so if you if you break all 15 of the blue medallions You have to you have to break 10 of the blue medallions to get it However, if you break all 15, I think there's 15. I think there's eight in the farm and seven in the uh church I might be reversing those numbers But um if you get all 15 you get the punisher and it comes with a free damage upgrade Which puts its damage at 1.1 Which is 0.1 higher than the default pistol and it will go through two people which is yeah, it's nifty Not a big deal though, but that's kind of nifty um I generally sell it because it's basically just free cash um And the piss and I don't upgrade the pistol or the shotgun because you don't really need to And uh once you get the riot gun you're swapping to that anyway um And if you swap to a pistol it would be the red nine just for sheer damage If you have a pistol at all my current professional run. I don't even have a pistol. I sold it.  Oh, well, they're wrong uh But I always keep about 80 pistol rounds on hand so the game knows to not drop Uh pistol ammunition for me because I always have a certain amount which means that it'll tend to drop normally it will drop Uh rifle ammo is what I've kind of found that causes it causes enemies to drop rifle ammo only in groups of two or three But two rifle rounds, you know that could be you know, that's still that's still potent You can do a lot with two rifle rounds, so Uh there you go That's uh, yeah, that's what I like Would you rather write a story with movie Bob or Zach Snyder?  I don't even know which one would block me out more Because they're both kind of nuts Uh, it would be amusing to work with movie Bob. I think but yeah, I probably go to Zach Yeah So friend of mine asked me what I thought of resident evil eight Just gave him about like a a short rundown Because he just yeah, he just got to the heisenberg fight and he just wrote back to me I think it just killed optimus prime. Yep flashed him as prime flashed him as prime If you could add anything to re4, what would it be? I'd give leon better weapons in mercenaries mode as well as add louis to uh The mode louis louis sara. Um, if I was so this is actually this is something I've think of when I start streaming Or I stream the game. I'm probably gonna go into this quite a bit There's all there is a lot of things that I would change about resident evil 4 And there is a lot you can change while keeping the spirit in the feel of the game very much intact um, I would change the delago fight and I I won't go deep into this but I would change the delago fight into a two-stage fight So that you can preserve the boat and harpoon element. Um, I would change the u3 fight Entirely. Well, maybe not entirely. I would definitely rework the u3 fight um There are some changes that I would make to how enemies behave not super Big ones, um But I there there was a lot of adjustment adjustments to make along the way But it's super the game is really good and it's one of those fixable things where you could definitely improve things along the way Um, but there's a lot that I would change especially when I when I play it over um but there's There's a lot that I change but it's a big topic and it's something that I want to give some Uh, a little bit more thought to but then again, maybe the free form discussion of oh, how would I fix this kind of off the cuff? Uh, could be interesting as well yeah Uh, the talos principle is a pretty good puzzle game too bad the story aspect is so limited As is common with a lot of puzzle stuff No, yeah, I don't think I've ever played talos principle, but I a lot of people recommended it Yeah, I've heard of that. I heard it's good. Uh, seems to be rated pretty well Molo, what's your biggest issue with age of ultron upon rewatch? I thought it was way better and more consistent than I remembered It's a good question. Uh, we actually watched that Was that about a month ago too long ago? Yeah, some like that and I I mean I still liked it. I like the movie. I like it because the characters are mostly okay Yes, if not, yeah, there's a lot of good. Um, there's a lot of good character stuff in there There's some I know this might sound stupid, but there's a lot of good setups Like the relationship between Natalia and uh bruce Oh careful, uh, everyone thinks it's terrible Oh, do they I think it's I think it's pretty well done. I think it's very interesting I think some of the dialogue is pretty nifty I think that one might be one of e-fap's hot takes because I think you fringy and I all think that the uh The natasha bruce stuff is actually kind of good So let me let me this makes me wonder is one of the reasons why people really don't like it, especially Retrospectively because they just sort of dropped it and so it seems underdeveloped because it never got a continuation I think the criticism would be it comes out of nowhere. That's what people usually say I don't think it comes out of nowhere. I mean it is this totally a um a stem for this uh relationship I don't think it comes out of nowhere, but they could set it up better. I suppose but I don't have an issue with how it You know it it manifests. I don't that's not my that's not an issue. I have with it I mean, well, that's the the issue people usually take with it. Um, and so like I would just be like, okay, so she was sent to get him And it seemed there's an implication that fury sent her Um, it's in the film. I can't remember. I think she said something to fury about this but he it's like did you send me on purpose because fury was hoping that the two of them would uh Find some camaraderie in the way that they feel about themselves being that she's She considers her past life to be that of a monster and obviously he's dealing with being a monster as a you know, that's the connection they can have and um You know a lot a lot of stuff happens in a Avengers and then we begin age of ultron and apparently they've got a connection that she can revert him from hulk to bruce That's a little bit of a jump. It's like, whoa, how did that happen? Um, and I'll give that but once you've got that and then you have just a couple conversations I'd say that's is that enough for them to have a relationship at that point. It's like, yeah seems to be um the other people in the world take issue with um Here thinking of herself as a monster because she's baron which is I think a very uncharitable Interpretation of what is happening in that scene and I I don't know if anybody in like the efab circles actually think that Um, yeah, you're not like yeah, I I'd see why somebody would be I I definitely see why people would be sad If you know, especially if you're a woman and that was something that maybe you wanted Well, it's just that she defines a lot of what she thinks can cure her past life as creating and maintaining a family, right? That's like a whole thing And so the inability to have children, uh, is a huge deal to her Not that it wouldn't be for anybody. Anyway, just the there's bonus baggage is what i'm saying um But the problems with age of ultron. I mean everything to do with ultron is a good start. Yeah There's like one good scene with him and then it's And even then it's not great.  So Yeah, and then as soon as you figure out what he's trying to do at any point in the movie It seems like he's not making good decisions really at all Yeah A little bit frustrating, you know Kind of no I don't remember that being a facet of a character in any of the films. You don't remember Scarlett Johansson, sorry. I always say that black widow's desire. Were you gonna say scarlet witch? No, Johansson, but we'll scarlet Johansson plays black widow on speaking infuse with scarlet witch No, I was also once kids No So the character black widow is played by scarlett Johansson I was gonna say black widow instead. I started with scarlet Okay, I'm glad we cleared that up. Yeah, I know So, yeah, it's it's well frankly scarlet.  Let's get that. Well, I mean I got it. That's good enough Yeah, but you're you Uh So her character in i-man 2 is it's not really much there at all. I don't think black widow. We don't really find much about her No, she's nothing character in that baby. Avengers gives us a big block for her And it's quite good and uh the baseline is she's trying to make up for her past life then um I would argue it's gonna be a collection of the other movies that start to develop that she's I would say civil war is probably the one that does the most work in making clear that She wants them all to stay together and be good people and do good things and stuff in from their perception stick together mainly as the What she wants, but age of ultron is definitely the thing that uh planted that seed for her character Yeah, she wants a family Um, it's definitely like I don't know what you would pull from black widow if not that Because uh, she ends up you can tell that she doesn't care about signing the accords or not It's just about staying together And we see more of that in end game because she is the one character who's coming out of that movie All right, but like widow is coming out and it seems to be about her actual family She always has Gets me very worried very very especially because hirak is completed with um Like basically the ultimate challenge for a person whose desire is to start and maintain a family is would you die so that that family can be completed It's like she does Good stuff. Now there's this other family that exists. So Yeah, I don't know what this film is gonna do I'm so worried about that movie Wait, have I how many items have I even gotten? I wasn't paying attention.    Yes Yeah, man, how does it do them all? It's that searing pain What pain what pain? Wait, it's an orgasmic pleasure, but I say it. I it's bizarre What do you think happened? I I've misread the entire situation. Let me scurry into the From this scary place Uh, you skip my chat. All right one sec Wait, I can pause this game. Haha. It's not Dark Souls I tend to forget that sometimes as well when I'm playing something. That's not Dark Souls. Like, oh sure. I can pause It's really nice. I found out my friends think halo 4 is better than halo 3 and the other halos.  How do I save my friends from this madness?   So we got to go back to the basics of what you value and why you value it Yep From what I understand halo 4 is very bad It's the big thing with halo 4 is that a lot of people say, you know multiplayer is dog shit Everybody seems to agree with that but the campaign's good. That's the that's where the hot take comes in that the campaign is not good Um, my god, it's actually probably pretty middling I'm not sure if I could say bad yet because like the story if it wasn't part of the halo universe Oh Man, oh, I don't even know if I'd say it's it's good Um considering the stuff with the world building and like the actual narrative itself is pretty weak It's just the characters and they're inconsistent with how they were before So yeah, it's not good. Um Well, yeah, there you go Obviously, I don't have actually any If you have friends who feel a certain way about a thing is like, I mean the true advice is just like Yeah, I mean they do they feel that way, you know Yeah um Thoughts on smallville the show I It's too long It's funny for me because I watched all 10 seasons, which is not a short amount of time to spare duds wallville And I only did it for james masters I enjoyed the the five episodes he was in Yeah, um, but I don't I don't remember hating it at all. I don't think it was particularly great writing But I had fun It's probably some really good stuff mixed in with some other stuff It's probably is uh The the thing right of like how old network tv shows that had not great production values probably At least okay compared to what's coming out right now I think what you'll probably find is it they're very very just, you know, standard stories Each episode probably just has your really standard approach. Just does I remember in that? It's like a comet or something hit something happened that gave a whole bunch of people powers I was season one.  Well, it just generates monster of the week. Yeah Totally how they did some big overarching villain or plot Yeah, obviously, um Lex and line the Lionel Luther is like the villain for most of the earlier seasons And it's like building up to Lex taking over which is neat the actor for Lionel Luther was great I remember him being uh something of a he was a bit of a giles in the uh some of the seasons Right Funnily enough. He was played by I think his name is John Glover. He plays the mad scientist the poison ivy kills at the beginning of Yeah, yeah, yeah, I I remember that. Yeah, now I remember now it's starting to come back to me some of that small build stuff Obviously, he should have had more roles is Clearly great Hello e-fap to free. I think Metroid Prime is the best though. Subjectively. I enjoy the second the most. What are your thoughts on the trilogy? I feel like Metroid Prime probably is the best one If I had to say and I think I actually do it is my favorite as well I think I think it is both the best and my favorite. Um And then probably two and then three. I think I think I preferred two more than three one is Fucking phenomenal. I love that game so much. Um echoes is really cool. I love the like it's like, where do we go? And it's like the light and dark Yeah, it's like I'm nice. That's cool They did a good very well. I never played the first. Um, I played the second and I liked it quite a bit I just never ended up finishing it for whatever reason at the time. Um I I I played the third and I just didn't care for it I was never never got into the third one for whatever the third is a bit more linear than uh than the the other ones It's uh, could you jump between planets rather than staying in, you know, one location? I think so you get your ship and then travel different places. So it's like three or four broken up Levels I think because it starts it starts with the spaceship and then I think the the first planet is is it norian or I never played it. Damn Have you not played three? No Oh, um, yeah, I think it was norian was and then there's there's uh Brion or maybe I'm I'm mixing up the names and then eventually you go to the uh, I think it's the space pirate home world and Yeah, it's it's it's more linear than the um, then like prime prime one is is uh Just metroid super metroid in 3d. I think is uh probably the the simplest way to describe it It is like the metroidvania translated to 3d and it's amazing It's one of the coolest examples of like nailing a transference from 2 to 3d Absolutely. It is a super morris before esk Leap, I think They nailed it Nintendo would do Can't believe that that's my Discussion we had about how Nintendo they're not that great and making games. What was it said exactly? um, he just he's he's not a fan of nintendo for um, it comes from the Pokemon that's the main thing that makes them say that Which you know pokemon seems like a bit of an anomaly for nintendo because otherwise they're I don't know nintendo just have like a They just make good games. They just have a really you can count on them. Um It's it's it's nice to have that sort of rock almost in the gaming industry Like you can count on uh on nintendo. They're really about the mechanics and good ideas. Yeah, that's right They are well, I think I think splatoon's a clear example of that It's like they don't make a lot of new IPs and it's like splatoon. What a great idea for a video game Yeah, it's a shooter But the objective is not to kill other enemies. It's to cover the the map in as much ink as possible And so the winner is based on who covers and and then you can use that ink to like traverse around really quickly That's a great idea for a for a shooter so unique And i'm pretty sure splatoon was like immensely successful. So I think nintendo should just keep doing that Just make these new IPs and have these really great core ideas and um, but and somebody said cries in f zero. It's like, yeah Yeah, um, I mean cries in metro prime How feels at the moment or just metro it as the whole um I thought mercury steam was gonna make uh a remake of fusion But I don't know it hasn't come around yet because I'd be happy we got 2d and 3d metroids coming out Yeah, I really love zero mission to play the shit out of that Yeah, it's a superman. They're really good Splatoon 2 has sold more copies than the last of us that doesn't surprise me at all It's funny. I started laughing and like wait a minute that actually no, of course it did splatoons are usually popular Yeah, as far as I'm concerned just like well good Well, it is it is good. Oh wait. Sorry. So it's all more than the last of us. Not the last of us, too Well, I think it would have sold more than both right because I think platoon is one of the highest selling games Just of like recent years. I think um, let me see splatoon 2 sales Um splatoon 2 has sold 10.71 million copies worldwide No, more than that. It's sold as of march 2021. It sold 12.21 million Copies worldwide, which is twice as much as the first games Hmm, what about other worlds? Oh like yeah on other worlds. Yeah I think that is more than the last of us. I don't think the last of us two sold Let me see the last of us two sales And of course this is ignoring that super mario odyssey has sold like 30 million copies and super smash brothers has sold 30 million copies Um breath of the wild so the the attachment rate for nintendo games to consoles is staggering. It's so high um It's I imagine it's it's kind of the envy of the industry Yeah, we say it a lot where the whole of people buy consoles for the games like sure But when it comes to nintendo people really buy the consoles. Yeah, they do Yeah, it's that's the reason why I have a switch is for nintendo games um Though admittedly even if there weren't nintendo games on it like if some of these games were on pc I probably still would have a switch because it is so functionally Unique whereas ps5 and xbox just you know, they're like my pc but uh feature locks And not as good. Well, maybe they are better than my pc now. I don't know but still It's um nintendo has something to offer. Oh, um, we don't have the sales for the last of us two overall All we have is its first month Okay, at least right now. So it says it sold 2.8 million copies in its first month Yeah, because I heard that the drop-off was pretty substantial for the last of us two um Well, I think I think that's tends to be the case for a lot of uh, a lot of like Um, these types of games right nintendo tends to have more sustained long-term Sales, whereas a lot of the games have come out that are like, you know, the the storage room in ones They have like a real Peak like the launch is big and then it drops off it says I don't I got nothing here. Like I can't see where the actual sales are overall all they have is just for the first couple of months Apparently, it's the highest grossing, but that's not what does that mean? Third highest grossing game ever in the u.s. Why can't you just tell me how many copies? It was like when uh everyone halo 5 came out the like it made the most money It's like did it sell the most copies it made the most money No, it's offered did it sell the most copies we later found out it did not It did not sell the most copies They included the attached rate for like x boxes that were funded with it in the sales That's that's why when you talk about most sell sold games ever you have to like discount We sports is like what doesn't count Yeah, um, but then when you but then it's i do discount super maro world because I think that was uh sold with a lot of s n e s's Uh, I think you probably would have to and do the same rule Well, it's not about it's not about quality Highest selling games of all time. I know that minecraft space pinball. Would that be uh, Space cadet pinball. Would that be one of the selling games of all time? Here's a uh, here we go Here's something that we got so minecraft is number one 200 million copies sold, uh, and then the next one is grant that makes me so 145 million copies Um, then tetris uh by ea on mobile in 2006 is 100 million copies and then we sports at 82 million Then player unknown battlegrounds at 70 million Super mario brothers at 58 million and then the first pokemon's mario kart 8 Uh, that slash deluxe collectively is 43 million then we fit and then tetris on uh n e s So, I mean if you bundle that all together if it was like tetris is probably number one, right?  It's been out for a year It's sold 33 million copies.  Yeah, dude. Nintendo is making bank like that's That's why I find it interesting when people look at the stuff with sodium xbox It's like Nintendo was in a world of their own making so much money Damn making so much money. Oh, it would have been a good idea to buy nintendo stock in like 2014 or 2015 That would have been the time to get it when they were at their lowest But apparently witcher 3 with all of its dlc included is 30 million So there are a lot of new games on this list um pokemon sword and shield I think animal crossing came out at the perfect time because that was when the lockdowns were starting to happen It's like hey the world's going to shit.  You know, it's just uh, it's just a nice game to just People like to chill out games started It's like 10 million and that was one guy wasn't it? Yeah concerned day That game's great. That's that's like the the peak indie game success story, isn't it? One dude who was like this is a cool idea for a game and i'm gonna make it and then it was like one of the best selling games of recent years Hello mollaren rags could you guys give Each give me your best impression of fringy's impression of an american I don't even remember what his was to I don't think that's a thing I could do to pretend being fringy pretending to be something else Yeah, that's that's like peak acting, isn't it really? I don't think I can do your voice anyway. So it's just like I don't think that's gonna work I'm so sorry I'm not sure rags could do it either because it would be him trying to do an american accent but kind of not as Accurate I mean the gist of it Hello efab Do free I think metro prime Oh wait, I read this one already It's all good. Hi everyone in chat come up with movie names for rags with rags's name on it quickly now lull Wow Rags to riches feels like the obvious one I don't know if they're maybe they're just talking about memes like lord of the rags, you know Star rags just just replacing full full metal rags full metal rags Captain uh the falcon and the rag soldier He's just dressed in rags and throws rags of people Like he throws rags at people Yeah, like he has really super power. That's just something I would a person could just do Yeah, but punching people is something a person could do. That doesn't mean You're like black would do if it's punting seems more effective than throwing a rag at somebody You know what these are super rags, all right? Oh, okay, that's fair enough. Oh, okay. Well, as long as they're super. Yeah, they're super. Yeah Uh, when do we get a comprehensive look at the mcu movies that predated efab you guys haven't covered? Haven't oh, it just says you guys haven't covered, right? This talk of age of ultron gets me moisturelicious. You massive well Give it time and the mcu arc will probably begin the dce u arc is um I'm gonna be coming to a close sooner rather than later. I think I said close, you know catching up to present time Yeah, the mcu one will take a while 23 movies, isn't it? And we're probably gonna deliver some hot takes throughout it I'd imagine Yeah, yeah, you know one of them will already be taken care of within the next week Oh, yeah How neat is that? That's nice Uh, how would you rank the buffy and angel seasons worst to best high rags? Hello All right Worst to best you got Probably buffy season one is worst than angel season four then buffy season two Then we're gonna start getting a little murky because there's a couple at the same time Like we're it's a mixture of buffy season four buffy season seven angel season one So all of them go up Then a mix of buffy season three and angel season two and three Gonna be a selection with them Then If I haven't missed any buffy season five buffy season six and then angel season five Which is about me as well. I think that's uh, it's bowser Um Um, so yeah, that's I think that's about right Subject to change of course To clarify my earlier chat my friends believe halo four multiplayer is the best in the series, which is an even worse opinion Yeah Damn well What can you do if they had the most fun on it, you know Yeah, I remember when I played halo four and For the first time on xbox and I was like, okay So like there's clearly correct decisions to make here when it comes to multiplayer And there's very clearly very wrong decisions to make You thought there were too many dmr's in halo reach Wow, when then you let people take dmr's into their Any battle that they want man Well, that was one of the problems with reach was that it was especially on the mcc when it came To see yeah was every game was dmr's i'm like stop with all these fucking dmr's pc You know with dmr's kind of just all dmr's I think they had to finally change like make it its own playlist non I think I had precision slayer. Yeah, so it was regular slayer with like, you know Rifles or sngs and then precision is like with dmr's Yeah, I can get away from all these dmr's dmr's are too good to just give everyone dmr's Yeah Fringy you're wrong Slipies are absolutely better than frosties I don't what that what I don't what up? I don't understand Like they've proven you wrong. What else can I say? I don't know where this has come from though Well, if you don't have an opinion on it, then I suppose they made this up Cool, that's what that is. Also molo, can't wait for your mandalorian video ragu eta on gamethrone's episode six rage um Hmm You know, I don't want to make any promises. I don't want to make any promises Because there's a lot of stuff to go through because episode six. I mean wow. I mean we all know episode six So I got to really go through all the info. I got us. I got to go through all the characters and the words and Other things that they do and the walking around and stuff. Yeah, it's gonna take me a while gonna take me a while There is no greater health than when you haven't drawn for a while And you try to do it and it's just not working and you hate yourself and want to die So it's all fun. I feel like there's a few hells that could be Maybe I don't know just why why can't you just beam this skill into my head? What do I have to try and get good at it? I don't have to practice Good at this The creepy flower alkohoid tisms in the dollhouse made ethan hallucinate away the combination to his inventory suitcase, I guess You'd still have his gun Yeah in his knife That part's so lame for that and they'd be like lol you're not guns now Because he was even like present of mind enough to say oh my guns are gone And No No, actually So bad Hey evap if any of you watched the sopranos and if so, what are your thoughts? I love it, but open to hot takes on it I have not watched it. I do hope to Oh fringy, can I get your best impression of rags doing an impression of you and do it in your best hyzen big voice His his thing is like ye shrimp on the barbie. Yeah, that's that's like rags is what's I gotta do with hyzen big though No, uh, what so I need to do his impression of an australian. Well try to sound like hyzenberg. Yeah So how the I don't see how they're compatible Well, your voice has to jump around like a kangaroo Yeah, so I would have to up and down and up and eat ethan winters Eaton winters This is impossible Ethan winners Up and down Okay, so it has to be shrimp on the barbie. Yeah Uh Can't kangaroos Yeah, like that would be I guess that's I can see it. I think that's rags australian. I think that's what they wanted. Yeah I think you nailed it Got their money's worth that's for sure that that was uh, that was that was uh, that was an ordeal that was difficult Oh, there we go Uh, this is something you missed mine apologies. Uh, hi rags Could you and molla have a conversation with you using your hyzen big voice and molla using his david jones voice? I like your voices Oh, that that could be something we do later on.  Yeah, I performed as well. We performed together. Yeah, I you know what I think I did all the heavy lifting that's Now it was only it was only heavy because you're not used to it. That's the thing. That's that's the thing fringy It never gets easier. You just get better Yeah, all right, sure whatever Um Hey, it's chaseway twitty again. Hi everyone else Hi, hi I'm not sure who did it, but thanks for I think it might have been you rage. We're talking about the rocketeer So I've just been looking at uh, Dave Stevens the guy who did it. He's a really good artist and it's really good reference Yeah, it's good stuff.  So that was that was this thing that he did Dave Stevens Yeah, the guy who created Rocketeer. I think he did a lot of um, from what I understand he did a lot of um Like pin-up drawings. That was like a thing he did while also doing the Rocketeer Massage is like drawing Well, you know what this I feel like this is what what what is it when you like just love people women? Like what is that? Is there a massage rate?  That's um Missanthropy. Oh So what is it when you hate men again? Uh, miss Andrew. Yeah. Okay. So there's misogyny, miss Andrew and myth and myth So, yeah, so so the answer is just super straight But no, but women can be straight too. So there needs to there should be one. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Save the hot takes for Yeah I guess that's my question is what is uh, what is the um, what's what's the opposite of of misogyny? Missing tree Yeah, no, no So when you not when you hate men, but when you love women, what's what is that like when you just love them a lot There's probably a word for it. I don't know what it is Feminist No, because feminism has to do with like Like I don't understand how that could possibly be the one All right, what is the opposite words out there? Okay, what is the opposite of misogyny? Oh not misogyny, but they're all gonna say missanthropy. It's not miss Andrew Don't missanthropy miss edge.  Oh, it's called phylogeny. That is a fondness love or admiration towards women The antonym is misogyny Oh, wow, you learned something. I've never heard that word before You learn something new every day Well, I mean, there's probably like that's the thing with those sorts of things It's like there's probably a word for it, but nobody's got it because it's weird to be like Well, no, it's just it's just weird to spare. I would argue the reverse every like those people saying normal in chacks It's like, yeah, it is. Oh, yeah Like other people. Yeah To like men and women You know men women all you guys out there. You're right. You're all right but um I think somebody said that this that Dave Stevens would get cancelled in 2020. It's like, yeah, probably You get that impression I don't know why good art Oh, now what's the one for men? Yeah Wow, I was expecting rags to actually suggest feminism again, but he didn't Feminism I like eight well enough Go ahead. I I I've learned something new So because philanthropy is the opposite of misanthropy. So phil is the good one Phil means good in this in this little thing I do like phil, right? All right, I like eight well enough, but I could easily tell it wouldn't pass the objective scale Subjective seven out of ten I don't even know where my feelings on resennial eight would land at this point I feel like if I left it alone for a while and then played it again in future. I'll just be like, this is meh You know, because I've lost all of the initial like fun part Of not knowing what it is. I mean Uh, don't cave to pressure ignore the last super chat Oof. What happens if you have two super chats that both demand opposing things? What are you supposed to do? I don't know.  That's why I do all right, you know This conversation reminded me of misanthropony the youtuber where I first heard of mohler Yeah, um I believe The uh, that was the one that said they weren't going to be making a series as long as me And I think they did And then I think they made a new video where they were like that wasn't supposed to be like an insult I think I was like all good Uh, nintendo is great lots of mixed feelings towards the skywood sword re-release on switch though Uh, yeah, nintendo is a bit shitty when it comes to like their remakes and stuff Or their hd remasters instead of funneling them all together. They're like 60 bucks with skywood sword a 10 year old game I wasn't happy enough with the The packaging of 64 sunshine and galaxy like I just like the It's kind of baffling that sunshine is in four by three.  Yeah, like I'm pretty sure modders can do that with the dolphin. I just I don't know. I just I remember being like, um, I wasn't even happy with like fully the controls I think that there was um, I can't remember what it was now But there was an option that wasn't available because they just didn't have anything for it Or something. I remember being dissatisfied I haven't touched it yet.  I got that for free, but I wouldn't have bought that Um, and they did it for twilight princess too. They just keep doing it Anybody remember how awesome the hydra triple barrel shotgun from re5 was that gun made wesker stars in mercenaries Uh, no, I don't I didn't really play mercenaries I don't know if rags does Don't piss anything might Okay, we'll just move right along In short, just go full van helsing hell.  He's a router bay router barger What is that? I don't know.  I don't know Like mel you're usually into this sort of stuff. Can you confirm? Uh, that's a yes No Is that no though Oh man. Oh and the end of that was the worst 3d zelda for full price after 10 years. Yeah, that's just a That's the deal with skyward sword. I haven't even played skyward sword. I just know that that was uh You know people weren't happy that which is People are just masochists, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, they're like being called man thing Like I was like i'm offended. That's probably that's probably a slur Can't be doing slurs racism So Uh every time I see ethan's hand it reminds me of scary movie 2 You take my strong hand see that's all scary movie 2 is to anybody edible It's reduced to one reference And you know there was probably some good jokes in there other than that one just saying Can't confirm that because I I like the one where you fall down the stairs with the with the wheelchair The other guy comes I was like, oh my god, are you right? It's like, I can't feel my legs like yeah, that's Since like five years or so. It's like, oh, yeah, no, then i'm fine. Yeah You you like making fun of disabled people. Yeah, okay. Oh, absolutely.  I'll let chat devour you for that horrible take you just had Though I do appreciate you referencing something other than this dank hand Yeah I don't think it's an old joke or anything guys just saying everybody references. Okay Gotta find a different gimpy hand um Markiplier caught that he was a moldy person right away. I was surprised also.  I remember throughout all of red So this is we posted um on discord Uh, and it's fine. I wasn't talking about anything. Anyway, let's go right ahead. Sorry No, finish your point. Please go right ahead. No finish, please. I'm sorry the They were talking about So the the whole justification for Ethan being invincible Is something that markiplier apparently spotted the thing is that was all the way through resneval seven You already had your hand chopped off.   Somebody asked him this question What's your response to martin scorsese and others criticism of superhero movies? Uh, zack. Oh, it's fair martin scorsese is a genius if you're really good at something commenting on that world Is completely within your rights and it doesn't diminish my respect for him.  He might have been but I like to think he wasn't he met the other ones Wow, oh boy I'm certain he wasn't talking about my movies because I'm awesome, right? All right guys Come on, please someone No one, okay Jesus I mean I don't think scorsese's gonna have watched any of his but Um I mean, that's just dunning kruger, I guess it's like zack would be like He's just unable to recognize what his even are so he would just be like, yeah, of course mine are immune to such criticism Okay, how could he be done in kruger though when he's been doing this for like 20 years? Happened I suppose that's already bolstered it.  Uh, you can't deny that marvel is successful Michael bay, right? Yeah, Michael Bay. You can't say he's successful transformers. Oh, sure I doubt people are gonna want to like it because that's the thing if someone said like what you're saying If I said to someone like do you agree that he's kind of on Michael Bay's level which is funny because I think Michael Bay is probably better Um, I think so I'd have to watch a bunch of his films to be sure but like I don't I don't believe Michael Bay has ever tried to His heroes are probably heroes. His villains are probably villains. He's pretty honest. He's pretty honest about what movies he makes Isn't there that quote? I make movies for like 13 year old boys.  Did you not hear any of that just before? No, I had to step away Okay, so uh, Zach Snyder didn't interview with somebody and I asked him What's your response to martin scorsese and others criticism of superhero movies to which Zach said?   I like that. I like that Where you think it's just what he said Totally wrong. It's funny because like Anybody who agrees with him. I'm always baffled. I'm just like, I know you don't agree with him if you're being honest It's just he said it The people who said are the subjective citizens people a lot of the true which is it gets really interesting Because like what does it mean to be cinema? But that is not art. That's not even art But everything's objective, but that's not art.  Okay, that's like, that's just you know, like I don't get it What's the difference and you're like, oh You don't get it. Okay.  They're Yeah, yeah, it's like at the best interpretation. It's like are you gutted for like Do you think that there is more to be pulled from sure shank in terms of meaning? Is that what you're saying? Do you think there's more of an impressive craft behind sure shank? Is that what you're saying and you'll never get the definitive answer because Of course if they were to give you the answer then you could prove it wrong Yeah, and that's not gonna work Gotta keep it nice and vague Yeah, and then you'll find that They the people saying this will probably disagree like one of them is like Jurassic park I don't think I don't know if that's cinema and then it was like no, no it is And someone else is like, yeah, you know the lost world is cinema too and they go.  Uh-huh Calm down That's still calling him a writer, which is technically true Zack Snyder is the joe biden of the movie industry He constantly falls on stairs Has he done that? Well, he likes to creep on he likes to creep on little girls I don't I don't think I don't see how that would work. I don't I'm not even sure what they're saying. Does Zack forget things? Wow, I guess he like he forgot the the dark side forgot about the Oh, yeah, I question the legitimacy of his success. I don't get it He didn't forget that because remember he the quick answer was just like, yeah, he forgot He wrote it so that dark side forgot because he thought that was clever. I guess How very clever that is very well, you got to admit I mean, you know, we're we're we're pals, right between you and me and Fringy and metal and the However, many people hundreds of people watching between you and me though That's pretty great the forget thing excellent, yeah I mean it's just you know, like when you wrap a present, you know that bow and you just Oh It's all that's it. It's done. It's all wrapped up in that I picture that's how that conversation would end you'd be like Do you really think dark side would forget that and you name all the reasons he wouldn't and he'd be like Oh, yeah, it's been a really long time Okay When you put it like that Consider me convinced. I don't know about y'all Zack Snyder is a friggin lunchbox. I paid money to say this He's a lunchbox. He's a lunchbox. He's a lunchbox See and now we're dealing with the super interpretive again. It's like what does that mean? What is that? What is that? He's a lunchbox He is a box of lunch Which I agree. I mean, I can see a lot of validity there He'd be a shitty lunch.  No, okay.  You know, I think some parallels can be made. I think there's some accuracy in what I've said and I stand by it With the right attention you can play Sunshine in widescreen With an original Gamecube the game had the capability to be 9 by 16. Oh right alteration. Sorry. Uh, that's good I I don't see why that didn't get applied to the switch vision Unless I'm remembering everything wrong. It was possible. I said it.  I watched it with a friend We had to watch it over two days because of how bad it was Oh, was there pausing was there pausing? Um, I saw someone in the eFap community mentioned like within the first five minutes It all falls apart. So I'm really interested like it's probably when they explain They're gonna guarantee you it's the world building probably like somebody says something about the world and it makes no sense Oh, the world's definitely not gonna make any sense.  So that's the idea So now Because you're right your zaxanity like how do I write that and I picture him being like there was a zombies And then they went to Vegas You know like all right You nailed it and and then you could be like zax anything like you should make more sense And he's like no, it's about the emotion of it. Vegas is like where everybody was It's about the emotion of the zombies attacking Las Vegas Yeah, I I don't know When we may or may not watch that one, uh, no particular promise as of yet, but possible possible possible possible His movies are the emotion of regret just like In a purist form Man thing don't assume my gender Ethan Winters 2021 he could have pulled that and uh, maybe gotten it cancelled, but he never tried another plot hole Reminder that m is better than chase.  He just derails the episode He maybe he's the most divisive guest in e-fabs history at this point. I don't know They teased vampires. Why then do the daughters turn into flies and not bats gameplay would have been the same I don't know Um, they just wanted to do bugs Was that their way of being like that's why the cold wind makes sense? Do you think that's why they did that?   But certainly that game Instead of just doing bats they went all the way like, oh do we put their Bodies there and then the flies came and they got eaten But then the flies formed the body and now they can do fly things, but they also hate cold. So, oh Okay This weird why? So if Ethan so so if all of this all these shenanigans happened in the summer, there's just no stop Yeah, unless they're particularly high up and it's just a really cold area all year round Maybe maybe It's what a what a shitty thing to happen when you do experiments and the only weakness they have is cold in a Cold region. It's like, well, that's a shame Why not have it be light instead of cold? We we brought this up I think that it lends itself completely to doing light.  I'm trying to drag the game is like, no, no, no, you know, they have their own death seeds It's not here. You're like, what no They can't go here player stop trying to Do it that way.  Yeah She's like, oh, I understand what the dev is telling me. I need to do this the dev's like, no It's neat that you thought that that was a thing though Wish I would have come up with that. It's cute that you thought a thing I I work 12 hour shifts and these e-fabs help me through the day slash night. I'm looking forward to listening to this tonight. Hey Very good. Who knows they may have even finished it by now. Who knows Uh, I gotta get ready for work. Hope you lads and chat have a great day. I'm sure we will It was a long day. That's what I know the years Rags thanks to you.  Thank you. It was amazing Senua's father's voice actor is also in witcher 3. I might get into witcher 3 just to hear him again lull Oh boy. Hey, uh, I'm glad you liked it That's an interesting game. I'm gonna play that after a while. I decided that Well, then I'll have to play it because I can't be out of the loop out of all of us It's the worst. Yeah, you can. No Well, I don't think fringy has any played it Wait, which one sir hell blade senua's actor? I haven't yet. No Come on. There you go. Um Is it like a like a six hour game as well because that's obviously another reason to attempt it It's like eight ish nine ish hours something like that. It's not long Yeah, to be honest, I should have played it by now. There's no reason not to Holds metal for that to what that I just decided when I play hell blade after auto-wiles Mel lives free. Okay. It just goes with the proverbial flow Maybe finish out your wife's and just dab and say I'm gonna play something else That's mel for you Yeah, everyone talks about ludonarrative dissonance. No one seems to talk about its inverse probably called ludonarrative consonants I think this focus on the bad one skews criticism toward the negative Well, so the problem is if for I think we would have let's say the game Has like some form of a fucking steak gun What it does, but what I actually mean is like a you know some kind of crazy fantasy weapon that fires steaks This is just really cool. You don't see you don't see many steak guns in games. They're not like Well, I guess you see them every once in a while. I they're I guess they're medium rare Yeah so It just exists and they don't give you any instructions with it but um You know you fire one into the heart of one of the vamps is to people when they're following you and it actually like You know activates an animation that she perishes into dust And there was no indication that you could necessarily do that. We would have brought that up as really cool and intuitive To be like it's it's great that and that's a really basic one.  Let's say it probably wouldn't I'm trying to because this is the problem with the fucking castle if they were vampires They wouldn't just have all the windows open the light shining in so it's like you have to change all of it but If you made it so that you could have lots of places where sunlight was coming in But they were smart enough to like realize that and react to it But then there's like a flamethrower where you can Uh sort of corral them into the room that you want and then you smash a window But you wouldn't need to smash a window But you turn on the lights or whatever and then they burn We I feel like we would all be talking about how cool these mechanics are and how well they were Yeah, it would be a it'd be a great sense to show progression as you move through the castle Is like even if you want to keep the players kind of in the same area over and over because that's great um But you could show progression by having you you walk in at first and it's everything's boarded up And everything's dark and there's not much light But then the more and more you take down You know the the blinds and open up the windows and light candles and chandeliers It turns into a totally different looking environment Which is mechanically different but also very aesthetically different But if you're asking us to pray something as simple as I fire a gun It shoots bullet and it hits enemy and enemy loses health It's like I'm not praising a game for that It's this way too baseline But I'm glad those things are working I suppose Um Yeah, I think uh the reverse of what we were mainly criticizing it for would be stuff Where I intuitively decide to do a thing and that thing works Uh not a lot of games do it especially when they're not uh intended It's really all they say intended is in like the main way they expect to play to solve it But if they come up with some other ones then go for it.  I probably waste like 10 rounds until I saw the lever. It's like, oh Okay, yeah, we it's just so obvious you think of course this makes sense because bullets go through glass because it's glass So I'll just do it. Nope can't do that because we get we got to have a timer It's got to be on a timer for this fight. You have to keep pressing the lever Even though you can just keep going back to the lever and pressing it pretty much whenever you want So it doesn't even matter. It's so dumb and this thing we we each had the different experience That was metals which is just definitively indicating how unintuitive it is mine was like Really standard. I just walk in and see it all happening and I'm like, what am I supposed to do with her? And I'm like, oh, there's a lever here. The lever opens the oh what why? Yeah, I just saw the I just saw the lever and now it's like, oh, I guess I'll pull this and then it opens up the top like Oh, that's good But my favorite one was still Fringies where he just springs into the room Sprints over to that lever and pulls it and then it starts shooting it as if it's just like, well this works She's dying I guess All right Just just um, there's so many examples in the game of just the design is so fucking unintuitive and uh Players have different experiences pierced like technically speaking. Yes, but like it's so Uh, so terrible each time you don't come out of that one Like I want to see the player who goes. Oh my god, that's so cool.  That's not exactly uh Indication of the scenario Because it's like how how miserable was your experience? I guess they will labor because that's what you do in video games. Oh, it opens the ceiling. That's fortunate Why did she attack me in here? Okay Is that one room in the castle that's just like half broken open It's like it was a big crack in the wall. Also. We've left loads of pipe bombs in that room I just yeah Don't attack him in the cracked ball pipe room store pipe bomb storage room There was for me the one where I was like Walked into the room was like oh cracks. Okay. I've already quit my pipe bombs and then I go into the corner Oh, there's even more pipe bombs here. Okay, cool. Well makes sense because this is the armory. I guess I was watching but then but then I threw it And it's like oh, it didn't break and look at it. Oh, I need to move the the dress.  She went. Ah pipe bombs. Oh, of course And I for a second I was like no It doesn't make sense It's one of the more basic ones. We're just like there's a locked door I don't know how to open the door and then on the table. It's like a key and you go. Ah, of course the key It's like, yeah, I mean, yeah Congratulations rather than evil Before you kill the sister in the in the armory She appears in the main hall and she follows you as her bugs or whatever and um, you you go into the hall of like Joy or whatever hall of pleasure, which isn't a hall.  No, what I mean is that people are capable of being bad It's like oh I should have said that it was like that sounds different to what Yeah, and of course he's more than capable of not being inflammatory Uh I thought heisenberg sold meth. Yeah, I mean is What do you think he went somewhere after the end of breaking bad, right? No, hey that robot army won't fund itself. Yeah Again, I feel Perpetually blue-balled by the fact we didn't get to see Miranda flying around and using all kinds of powers against Giant heisenberg robot thing We just kill her we just watched them both do that.   So I'm gonna go to bed.  Thank you I honestly don't know how to do a down syndrome Impression Isn't that like a huge spectrum as well? It has all kinds of different things going on I you're seeing people in the down specter the people who have down syndrome are on the spectrum There's a spectrum for what down syndrome covers Sure. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you want to hear my impression of down syndrome?  He's like a human being.  What is this? What the fuck's going on in here?  I've got my guns Him going on adventures.  It's like this.  Get back here Oh The limitless potential Oh, yeah, they're like to get rose you have to go to the castle dimitred.  Where's the road? Can I just walk there with my legs? See this is already infinitely better Make the dlc cowards You have to gather the three stone plaques so that you can open up now.  I'm going over the wall It's climbing.  Let's like all the way back up. I'm not doing that The game was only just get along. Maybe he's like, yeah, it's lady. It's lady dimitresk.    He takes off his wedding ring and just throws it away. He's like, hey there How are you? Hello?  Oh, well, thanks for the keys creepy castle. Yeah Oh, well, I know what now I want to now I want a corg. I want to I want corg in the castle I'll just call it corg in the castle. Corg in the castle. That's the game Oh, thanks. Thanks creepy piano Thanks. I really appreciate you giving me that key. That was nice and um I think this key fits a door that we saw previously. It's gonna be great. Let's go over come on any Oh, what's the bug's name? I forget um meek Meek come on meek.   I was like that. He's just like maybe we could work this out You know nonviolently First option. I think we got off on the wrong foot. Uh, my name's corg. This is meek We seem to find ourselves in your castle. It's a lovely castle. It's kind of a freaky castle You're uh, your daughter's there. They keep trying to kill me and well, that's not preferred Not sure what i'm supposed to do about it Can we get more generic protagonist dialogue mohler, please? So just any word we'll do it like no Yes I have to do the objective of this game, which in this case is I have to find rose I have to save my family Let me save my family I have to do this. I was born to do this We have to stop him What you're doing is wrong We did it. That's the, you know what's funny? Uh, uh, how do I do it? The dialogue that the person comes up with when they swap bodies and buffy freaky is literally all of his dialogue Uh, if you know what I'm talking about, like she's just making lights up. They're all as good as as Cole's dialogue Just funny Uh, any of you guys play ghost of Tsushima and what were your thoughts? I like played it. I meant to play it. I never did my bad Maybe one day But uh, yeah, most people have come away really happy with that game as far as I know I like to summarize stuff the stealth mechanics are pretty crappy Bring back good stealth mechanics world world is uh, yeah, please do the that world is uh, Beautiful it's such a good-looking game. It's like a painting. Hmm It's like it's it's heightened realism. So it's trying to be realistic that like the colors are incredibly vivid at times It's like impressionist realism Yeah, almost because uh, just the way that like the wind and the uh, and the grass and the leaves falling It's very dramatic.   Oh Um, do you have a preference? Um I'll be chase. I knew you'd want to be chase. You want to make his dialogue No, I just feel like I could do his dialogue better Uh, um, I can't wait for what you're gonna say. It's gonna relate to so here's what's gonna happen Uh, yeah, it has to I mean no one would be shocked by that Like hey chase. Um, I was watching this anime. Well, I was but you know, I had to spend time with my girlfriend And um, it was really good as a story about this guy and he finds this Thank you feel free to cut in whatever you want He finds this there's this anime thing that happens and it's really good and I think it's really well written And it's really What what are you talking about? Who am I in this scenario? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I was kind of I was kind of thrown for a loop there Um, I just think uh this just just made you guys I mean if you ever wanted to watch uh an anime You should totally watch this one that I saw the other day because me and my girlfriend watched it and I do have a girlfriend Um, and uh, she really liked it, but I didn't think it was all that good but I didn't want to you know, I didn't want to tell her it wasn't that good because You know, I've got I'm currently struggling to figure out what insurjection Moriarty would say that would get you like chase angry, you know Chase you're not Talking here. Oh my god guys. Just because I want to talk about anime doesn't mean you have to be angry at me all the time Yeah, then Moriarty would stop laughing The way so the way to do that I think the way that most of their arguments start is you'd have to say one word wrong rags You have to use a word wrong in a sentence like I have to yeah I saw this uh this anime I was watching the other day. It's called It's called grass roots of hori kori and um, it was really facetious. That's what I thought. I thought it was very very facetious Yeah, yeah facetious. I thought it was facet what what is that? Why why?  No, that's where I mean it was it was it was really good It was uncanny Oh wow the um The way I think the way it starts though is it's not as all like so he would have said all of that and then you'd have more How to go like facetious Yeah Can you guys do slave and slave master impressions asking for a friend? Okay, this is slave master impression Are these characters or are we just talking about a weird role play thing? I don't have no idea. They just wouldn't ask sex role play Maybe I went rags to be the slave. No, no, no. He's a bad dog. He needs to be the slave master.   You're still davie jones What So we need we need a story then. Well, this is just character Do we do we need a story? It's for just protagonist man to just prototype man. I have I have to save my family It's I you know, this is my burden alone expecting right to go. Yeah, this is some Uh, uh, you have to consider that your family is um, maybe in that castle over there Uh, they're they're not in that castle that shanksung took took them We have to go get them. I can't let them down I I have to stop him. She tell you what? Um, I saw your daughter earlier rose I'll mark it down on your map where she is and you can go in uh go fetch her She's on the other side of castle kangaroo Uh Because protag man isn't a character. I don't know What he would stay in response to that, you know, like I don't know what he would be feeling In response to kato, whereas I can see kato having a lot of observations Yeah, yeah, it's hard to work with protagonist man because I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what he would respond Uh, how he would respond to that Your roses in another castle Yeah No, actually that was the only castle we got Part of us in a swamp And this part's in the factory and this part's in the um It was it was just sitting over here Nice and neat nice and tidy Yeah, little baby head in a jar You know how dota has different announces as dlc kano ethan would probably be have people buying resume late just for kano ethan also hyrax Hi They really would and let's think give it to give it to us. We will rewrite all the lines the game will stay the same We'll just have the dialogue change It'll be funny Ethan will ask things like basic obvious questions and Insightful observations and insights into his character, you know things that you didn't get when he holds the The flasks or whatever and he's like this is my daughter like like that.    Be be clearer Is it like a midget baby? If he's all cut into pieces, how's it gonna be a person again?  I'm supposed to have grabbed something from somewhere Chat somebody one of you has been paying close attention because you care very much that I get this right so Well, where am I supposed to go? I've completely forgotten If if there's no answers, I'm just gonna go to the roof and jump off the the left side this time I'm pretty sure there's a chest on the left one. I think that's where I was supposed to go and I didn't We got this You think every time if kano is the protagonist in residual village every time the enemies would hit the invisible wall and just refuse to follow And he's like yeah, that's right. Yeah, you don't want any of this.   You know what some good advice Really gets into the gaming mood yes The game was only popular because of lady dimitresk. I mean that's gonna have helped No, I think it's because it's resident evil. Yeah, I think I think I think you can tell from playing it like yeah, this will work for a lot of people. I get it Because they had no idea that the dimitresk would be what it was because she was You know, I think if they knew that ahead of time, she'd be a much more prominent part of the game Maybe even an anti hero slash quasi villain So that they could bring her back or she could potentially make another appearance Like I feel like you'd want to capitalize on that weird popularity Well, I mean, I think it's possible. They'll bring it back now because of that. Oh, yeah, it doesn't matter.  Let's be clear. There are no rules in resident evil do whatever you want. It's fine Uh, why does heisenberg drag you to mother Miranda when you covered in metal and he could just float you around without straining his back You know of all of the things to complain about in that game Fair enough The mold on the progenitor virus a different Miranda inspired Bensa to seek out the progenitor the t-virus g-virus t-vironica are from progenitor.  I just like it'll be about figuring out exactly how it doesn't make sense Just like, you know what Can we just settle that it doesn't make sense I mean that makes sense. Not that we didn't have a lot of references anyway Fringy, what's your opinion on joe biden's book? Um, I haven't read Joe Biden's book. What's I don't know. I didn't know that he had one I guess you don't have an opinion then What's that? Joe Biden's book Is it biden? I want to know who wrote joe biden's book for him. All right. He's written a lot of books I have no idea. Read them all for any so you can answer the super chat I'm I'm really not interested in the ring Christ that yeah, Jesus. There are a lot of books. He's written Uh, who would be a better improvement of generic protagman kung fury or space cop also high rags Hi, I haven't actually seen space cop. Um I have seen space cop and uh with um Rich Evans is possibly like my favorite part of that film his dialogue isn't fantastic But there's a couple of lines. I really did like um And it's the character. It's almost like um A really immoral rich evans is basically what you get and the idea that I can get a Pack of that sort of those voice clips in the world of resiny way. It's like I would go for that in a heartbeat.  Oh my god It would be great. I don't know if um, is there anything else you guys reckon about that or? Um I feel like I I would appreciate rich evans as the protagonist of one of these things because he can say he's funny and Insightful and interesting and I enjoy listening to him. Yeah, he's way better than the protagonist that we got I want I want to see I want to hear what rich evans would have to say if he was in that situation Mm-hmm He kills the first sister.  Okay What is the wind? Is it the cold? Was it is it the light? Uh space cop efat movies when also high rags Ah, I don't know that seems like something we could do at some point. Uh, but I I don't know I'm not even sure who we would grab for that because it's it's a little bit of an awkward one Right because it's like, you know, I'm just gonna watch the Xerity know that whoever we show it isn't gonna think it's good Nobody thinks it's good. It's like So it's probably mainly just gonna be about talking about it in terms of a uh Well, they tried sort of thing Um In uh, it's every bad character in a game better off being replaced by kano like cloud from Final Fantasy 7 or what about the animal crossing villager? I'm having a kano living in a little village filled with little cute animals. I mean, yeah It's gonna be great to have him and basically any he's one of those types of characters. Uh Jack Sparrow is one of these characters where you drop him anywhere and it's probably gonna be fun Um, yeah, probably Yeah, you're legitimately interested on and just like how would they react in this scenario? It's probably interesting and I would like to see that Yeah Muba if ever you are going to cover movibob or critic I recommend getting pro crest itara She once critiqued movibob's book. She's a long woman Uh, yeah, I'll definitely keep that in mind So, um, I have no idea when we will next cover movibob. Oh, you know, it's a it's a dangerous thing to do something like that Ifringo moola and rags Hi, hey, yeah, I think you guys would really appreciate the thai film called fireball. It's about an underground basketball league Um, all right. Yeah, maybe And it's a virus monster into world is a good example.  I don't appreciate it. Yeah Get out. What are you doing? I just don't like it when it really happens to anything It seems cheap and it seems like you just want to one up the people who came before you, you know Well, yeah, well actually it was the old this and that thing is mine I always find it really weird when like you see interviews where people who weren't involved with the original things say we like we I remember that was like dead rising.   It's not your roots. It's somebody else's roots. She dug them up and planted them in your backyard I want to know the story of that where people go into other people's houses and dig up their the roots of their trees They're in their house. Oh trees can survive that right they can survive it I just I don't think dead rising survived it Not well dead rising them really exist anymore those guys got shut down Any ideas for next e-fap movies and when uh mmpr 1995 lol is crazy as the first mk Uh, we've got loads of them on the way the one that's going to be coming to you guys as soon as just Probably going to be the snider cut e-fap movies, but that's still going to be a little bit of time from there We're getting chunky e-fap movies lately Like two model combat films in one crazy Molly re six with rags bring alcohol. Thank me later. Also hi rags Yo, hello. Yeah, I think we'll do that at some point So no no huge rush or anything. We'll be fine Which would you rather play a game with a bad story and good gameplay or a game with bad gameplay and a good story? I would take gameplay Yes, I think that's been lost a few times if I ended up playing a game with a great story and like garbage gameplay I think the gameplay might affect my consumption of the story to the point where I'd be like fuck. I wish this was a movie Yeah Like I'm picturing it's like we're just trying to get to cut scenes But we're unfortunate that it keeps saying like now tap a y a y x x x a y I knew if you miss any you have to reset. It's like good god. You're destroying the story Uh, to be fair that looks like an expensive crib. They could have had it in storage until rose got brought into the castle Well, yeah, that was uh, you were speculating about that right rags. You were like it could be for rose, but it could also be Uh an implication of a different child I know a little parts. Oh, yeah, but that was uh, they did that lately, right? You mean recently or Yeah, I don't I don't really know because we Then again, now you're making me think because They didn't have access to rose until the day that you are in the village, right?  It's double layered then right? It's first of all They're barely going to be having rose in baby form to make use of the crib But secondly they already had that crib meaning that Must have been for someone else at some point, which is apparently potentially interesting story Element it is but it's it's a weird detail I think the only reason it exists is just to remind you that rose is you know a thing And I think maybe I think Ethan maybe comments on it and he says like oh rose I gotta get back, you know some stupid protagonist shit so But but you're like this doesn't make sense why this is here all of dimitres's daughters are all grown up They're adults remember so what a chat was like they would would have been babies at one point As if that explains why it's still there Hey man, it's good times Good times to the max bro Thoughts on sk and how the debate went I Would be surprised if it's not considered the best debate out of all of the efap ones and it's seven hours as well It's not there's lots of disagreeing It's not like some kind of like Both sides walked it in or anything. There's loads of conversation to make sure we figure out exactly what the issues are um SK was a good conversational partner an interlocutor it went well, I think What do you reckon roogs? Yeah, I think so. I think it went really well Funnily enough, I you wouldn't even be able to watch it yet Uh guys if if if it were releasing like today or whatever because it's um stuck in copyright for now. I'm trying to fix it Yeah, I I keep Harvard University claimed our incredible brilliant arguments as their own This is too educational on how they Uh Yeah, I try to keep visual references on a lot when we're talking about whatever scene Um that backfired a little bit because now I'm gonna have to put the cover on there And it will cover up a lot, but at the same time it should still be visible and uh I think I'm gonna try a 40 percent and we'll we'll see what happens But it will be out on the coming saturday guaranteed Um Fringed Fringed and ruggo rugs. All right I'd like to hear opinions on alternatives to traditional controllers slash keyboard hardware I think more people would get into dotas slash lul if they ever made something that reduced mouse dependency um Isn't that one of the struggles of using?  Um, I don't know what an alternative would be to it. Um Because if you take away the mouse and the keyboard You lose you're probably gonna almost by necessity lose a lot of functionality Because there's only so much because the keyboard is skirt because the controller is so limited and you got to make a lot of concessions You wonder how long until I know it could be a lot of time or whatever But like I watched uh some v-sauce episodes on and I think where they're already trying to crack like uh Uh sensing brain waves translating them into the correct sort of things that mean So if you have a prosthetic anything it can make it move the way that you're thinking you want it to move Yeah, they're doing that with uh, isn't that that ill or musting with that monkey that just blows on a It has like a a neural link or something and They put a joystick in front of it And so it needs to move the stick to put the cursor in the box and at first the cursor actually does something But later on they turn it off and they can just move it with his mind because the monkey is like moving the The joystick and then his head it translates to put it in the box It's so cool Yeah, maybe that's what's gonna make the mouse obsolete when we have controls that are basically just you put on a little Little hat and just like now basically in vr. We're in world at that point though, aren't we you know? Yeah It'll be like that episode of Futurama. Where are they?    Yeah, that's right Like I totally picture that being how it works. It's like if you want to use Weaponry that's yeah like stronger deals more damage. We have to make these motions All right, I can't wait then just the idea it's kind of funny because it's so impractical But the idea of walking around in a physical internet to get to different websites So like when they wanted to go to nabster they have to walk there Yeah Huh, what's that remember nabster?   It won't be stoppable They won't be able to stop it and I wonder if the birth rates go to plummet Just relationships in general become less common Oh, yeah, if if we fast forward to the point where you can do what they do in future armor I genuinely would have that worry. I'd be like if people could just Have a celebrity of their choice in the form of a robot that Doesn't feel distinguishably different and even has AI that's good enough to just be what you want in a girlfriend Like we might be done That was what the don't date robots thing was. It's like the next day billy's planet was destroyed Can you guess what planet it was? It was earth don't date robots I like even when they were when he was dating the real girl I even flipped over the table about the important purposes and there was a baby on it Wonder if um the solution at that point we will have advanced medically to the point where like we're just Creating new humans through, you know, like maybe we don't need. Yeah The problem is it's a world that I don't recognize at that point. Oh, of course. Yeah, everything will be changing um What was it the the thing with billy?   Yeah, it's just like man. Does that sound like anything that's happening right now? A bunch of men who don't want to go anywhere Just want to stay at home in cell army Rags opinions on overwatch 2 and 5v5 I haven't played overwatch in like two years I it feels like I just haven't played it in ages Because I just hate blizzard So I stopped playing overwatch And I don't remember ever hating overwatch. I just was like play some overwatch. Sure. Why not? And I remember really liking it when it came out And I was like, okay, I'm done because this game's kind of like broken and weird and everyone's got everyone moves instantly overwatch 2 is kind of a weird one because it's like I don't think they've gone a good job of actually Making it seem like a new game looks like a just an expansion to the first one Just looks like a load for overwatch Yeah, well, I think they need to add more characters than they've announced I think they've only announced like two new characters. You need more than that Because overwatch one a new game Had like 21 characters So you need to you need to be adding a lot of characters if you want to justify this is a new game It doesn't matter if you add three or four new maps and then even adding that hero like campaign mode that they're doing I don't know if that's gonna Like the first game should have had that so I'm not sure how much it's worth, right? Titanfall 2 made Substantial changes to the first game. It wasn't just that they added a campaign Like the Titanon pilot gameplay changed significantly instead of three Titans. They added like their six All with different weapons and abilities you can customize Really radically different than a much bigger game than the first one. I don't know about Titanfall 2 though Uh, not Titanfall overwatch 2 Um, and plus yeah, Blizzard's rep at the moment is uh Not great Like how people like Activision ruin them. They are Activision Blizzard. All right They are not some tiny little subsidiary company. They are like half the company They ruin themselves It's like with Bioware. Oh Bioware got ruined by EA. Nope No, EA, EA is partly responsible, but Anthem took seven years to make. I don't know what I'm not blaming EA for that one I feel sorry for EA Yeah, hey, you've been working on a game for five years. What what you got for us.   What have you all been doing?  Yeah, getting paid. That's for sure And nobody's gonna remember Anthem No, it's dead and gone. Now they've just gone back to Mass Effect and Dragon Age. Yeah, people forget that You know that happened like now people forget Anthem Anthem was probably their most expensive production and it was not only it sold poorly and was the Most poorly received game that they've ever made It's real interesting to think about because when Mass Effect and Romantic and I was like, oh, this is the b team though the a team They're making Anthem and it's worse It's like it's worse At least as far as public's concerned Here the last Anthem update was Uh, they gave up. Yeah, February 24th Mm-hmm. They gave up. They were meant they were they were like, oh, we're gonna do Anthem next and then this year They were like, oh, no or not. It's it's done. We're done. We quit.   A lot of people blame covid for an increase in productivity. They're like this has made us, you know Um, there's a lot of places now that are like I worked from home for so long But now it's just become normal that we do work from home and that cuts down on Travel prices and time taken to do so Yeah, I mean, I think I think a lot of people would have a preference for working from home And I think that's what covid demonstrated. It's like, oh, this office thing is kind of like antiquated in a lot of industries Yeah Um Which is it's interesting You see a lot of like developer behind the scenes and they're like, oh, this is a big collaborative space And I'm sitting there like man, I want in my world in a professional place I want to be in the corner in a dark room. Like that's what I want I don't want to be in a big open space with my back to people My backs against the wall. That's what I want. I want to be in like a dark corner So edgy I don't like would know it's just I don't like uh, I actually really don't like open collaborative spaces I think that they hurt productivity in my case a lot um And I'm pretty sure that's actually like this is true because it's you're more exposed to distractions And the best way to work is to work in a big block Just uninterrupted rather than like you work for 10 minutes and someone walks by and talks to you For you work for like 30 minutes and someone comes by and talks to you but that seems to be less productive So I'm not sure how I would fare in a lot of development studios in these big spaces Yeah, I don't know Yeah mouse superior good mouse controller inferior pretty much There's still times where I prefer controller to mouse and keyboard, but Yeah, like driving sometimes controller still still cool. I still like him. He's right there. I was like, hey, buddy. How you doing? I wouldn't want to play Luigi's mansion with a mouse and keyboard. I don't think You have any of you played a lot of pcvr games? Is it worth the investment yet? I can't answer that question, but I do intend to check it out at some point Uh tanktism for rea. Ethan's tank uses american parts despite the is-3s out in front of the factory and romania only ever had one is and it was and an is-2 Um, whatever you've spotted about the inconsistency of that tank, it's probably true and it's again just I mean Yeah Like you're probably right Eva crew, do you think Bethesda's starfield will be good? No No, that's like that's made by the main team. So I don't care as much about that In fact, I think it's made by the full out 76 team. So Oh No, yeah, I just know them I I don't know it'd be nice to have like a cool new big science fiction rpg But like I'm just I'm a little blackpilled on Bethesda Yeah, me too I don't think it'll be good. I hope it is. I don't think it'll be good Well, they got microsoft money in pressure now. So maybe microsoft will actually make them. Oh, yeah, maybe Maybe they'll hold their feet to the fire and say like guys. You can't be fucking around I that might cost a lot of money I wonder if that will help like a lot of With like microsoft just buying these studios and and having just more money microsoft money and standards um Well standards, I mean crackdown three was pretty broken, but uh, but as a general rule I mean the fact that halo got delayed by a whole year Um, ask fringy to say nor No All right At this point, what about half-life three? I don't care. I I doubt that's happening. Well, the problem for me is was I I never usually cared I finished half-life two and I was like that was neat Yeah, half-life two was neat I um, I actually ended up. I think I liked half-life one more than two, which is really weird. Um But uh, I don't know.  I knew that's when I played it Yeah, never. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I was like, okay. This is neat. This is all right Because I wouldn't deny that the game did change stuff as a trend set or it's something a lot of people try to copy all that sort of stuff And that's that's that's fine. It's just that when I played I was just like, yep This works. I think maybe it's just the fact that uh, a lot of what's come after it has done What half-life two does and when you play it, it's like, oh, I've played this before And it's not even really the game's fault because it's everybody else. Yeah I was the first thing to yeah do it like I can appreciate it, but Like I just find a way Everyone getting super like obsessed with getting that third one. I was just like sure I just I I wasn't I wasn't getting the feels of like, oh my god. We desperately need that half-life three I think a lot of people would have expected that half-life three would have changed like gaming again as well I think it would have had Mechanical sort of like advancements that would have made us go like, oh my god It has to be like, yeah, we're incorporating smell into the gameplay experience The Seinfeld is unfunny effect. It might well be that the whole thing of people don't think Seinfeld is funny because All the sitcoms that come afterwards copied what Seinfeld did Um It's almost like the same thing that happened with Call of Duty where I already copied that multiplayer thing sort of formula Or I guess even Halo kind of done it. Yeah And also I'm not sure how I feel about the whole thing of like half-life It has the cutscenes are in the gameplay. It's like, I don't know because that trend that that started it's like I think like that's what started the you know the games where it's You'd never have cutscenes like that's it's all in game That stretches right into Resident Evil 8 where you're just like, I don't know that what I'm doing right now matters I don't even know when I have control most of the time. I just sort of go. Oh, oh, yeah, it's me again yeah Like it's seamless. It's like, I don't know if I call that seamless. It just it feels weird control-wise They're Romanian. I wanted them to sound like V Oh, like all of the characters in Resident Evil 8 Hey senbara, what are you doing? I dig it. I think have that and Kano. I think we're well on the way to making a great game Kano and Heisenberg it's a co-op game. They're both traveling around One of the bosses is on your blade Just we're just gonna do Mortal Kombat instead. Don't we just just transfer it all over Mortal Kombat and V Resident Evil and Metal Gear complete nut a nonsense, but Metal Gear compensates with interesting gameplay and an ocean of secrets also loads of memes That's the thing it I don't think I would have minded as much if If we had great gameplay I think I would just have the same take as most of Resident Evil stuff where I'm just like, yeah, the story's retarded, but You know, we could talk about all the mechanics But the mechanics were kind of thin I feel like most mainstream games are getting thinner and thinner Unfortunately, but my god, do they look good? Yeah, they look they look great Um To be fair that looks like an expensive crib. They could have had it in storage until Rose got brought into the castle Again though, if they were as as rag said if they if the plan is to turn her into four pieces of a baby What's the crib for? Maybe it's prepared for when they have the the actual daughter the one that she wants back That was interesting She was like, I'm going to do a ritual to bring my baby back With the rose baby and then it just doesn't work and it also takes her powers. Remember that That's just it just happens. It's like, okay I mean, I wouldn't expect much of anything in terms of discussion there. That's just Resident Evil being like, this is what happens Okay, that's why I have 46 booze. It's got to be close to enough, right? Yes Uh Going outside of windows to get in is in F and talk off. I think is what they're trying to say Uh, the what now going outside of windows to get in is in talk off Going outside of windows to get in. Yeah, like like if you have to go out of one window to grow along a balcony Yeah, we have to go along a ledge so that you can get in a different window I think it's in a lot of stuff. It's in stuff. There's no reason it wouldn't be in stuff as old as like 90s games Yeah, it happens a lot in Dishonored where you have to go around the outsides buildings and go from one like we were opening to another I referenced amnesia that you do it in that. It's like, yeah, those those games are very capable of it And it's very reasonable to assume That you can do it You can break all the other windows and you'd think you can climb through if there's a hole then it's just like, nope and you're like, okay Rags, why must you turn efap into our house of lies? I tell only the truth and the truth her Here's the truth. Am I the only one who thought of billy bob Thornton whenever heisenberg spoke? Yeah, I didn't think of billy bob Thornton No Why would you even put furniture enemies can't deal with into your game jack baker and re7 can smash the table if you annoy him around it Yeah, and that's really cool And um, I think it was shown in like demos to surprise people and make the game seem like it's um Like everything's interactable or everything is at risk of being destroyed by enemies and stuff It's like, oh, that'll be amazing, but I'm pretty sure that's one of the few times that even happens I just saw that there's a apparently zax not a sad if he made the MCU it would have made less money at all being less beloved I want to see what the context is Like if it's like, oh, you know, if mine's not crowd pleasing. It's a little bit more cerebral I was about to say I'm sure that he would say something like it would be more realistic. It would be more down to earth Um, oh, so he said Uh, I could have changed it so I would have maybe made less money or being less beloved for for what they've created I don't know that there's a better way to do it. Hmm. All right. Oh, yeah, that's it I mean not even I would be that nice to the MCU Yeah, no, that's fine. But I suppose that's his way of saying nothing at all It's like they've done the best at doing what they they were doing, you know, like, oh, no Here's a question that he had. It seems like there was a big q&a. I just saw it on twitter Um, the link to this guardian article where there was I think it included that one So somebody asked him I think your dc films affect people in positions of power when they are on their day off and enjoying the movie Which can make life better for the west of us west of us for the rest of us If you ever slip in ethical scenes deliberately to try and shape a better world Super hero he says superheroes are heroes. They're gonna rescue a cat From a tree to walk an old lady across the road. But the interesting thing is the shades Chris terry on I talked a lot about how we super imposed batman and soup man on society We tried not to be judgmental in our morality because that's dangerous When you strike a position and don't have another perspective on the same event It can be a slippery slope When you're doing something in which you can find lessons and hide lessons It's fundamentally important to be careful not to just have one point of view Because people go into a movie like justice league on the side of justice league You tend to feel they're right. They're not called the fascist league.  Is this intentional? Yeah, I think the philosophical christian identity of the west lids a lot through those dc characters Superman personifies a lot of the same qualities we see in the mythological story of christ in his death and rebirth Sometimes it's easy to evoke those things through imagery. What it's like the only reason you do it Yeah, if you yeah I don't understand why that would be his answer the question You know it evokes christ when you put a cross in a scene. You're like, yeah a lot of the time.  What the what is that? Well, they both came back from dying, so Yeah, but in the movie that you were it's funny to me. It's like I was like, do you think jesus invented coming back from the dead? It's like that's been around for all kinds of things There's like nothing original about christian Oh, no, so here's a question that he got asked A lot of people see a right-wing political undercurrent in some of your films Where do you stand politically and has that changed over the years to which he answered? I vote democrat I'm a true lover of individual rights. I've always been a super strong advocate of women's rights and women's rights to choose It's like why why did you why did you say that? Why oh Yeah, if you told me that you were really really big on individual rights, I'm not thinking. Oh, he votes democrat then Well, I guess I'm confused by the things that he why didn't he just say, oh, I'm I I don't know I'm just like a liberal like yes or something. Why didn't he like say, you know the issues that particularly like I'm a strong advocate of women's rights. It's like what the what? Yeah, it's like I vote democrat I'm a strong advocate of women's rights Is like oh implying that republicans like hate women or I think he's a bad speaker Because like maybe yeah remember the whole thing with a fan of men is too or it's just like he's I don't think he realizes when you put two statements right next to each other people will infer that they are connected So I never like knowing that that he's bad at that. I wonder if like you're not supposed to read it too much I don't know. Yeah, maybe it's it's it's just weird. He says weird things. That's all Do indeed And because yeah, he said I don't have a right wing political agenda People see what they want to see for me. That was not that was certainly not the point. That was not certainly the point Oh, that's the other way around now, whatever you're speaking. That's okay. You can say things wrong Wrong sentences, but that's enough of that attention Good ol snider Angry Joe trashed re8 through his review, but then gave it a seven out of ten pretty cringe I don't know that angry Joe I don't know if he's ever talked about his zero to ten sort of system And how he ranks it beyond just what his experience was overall We went from a zack snider to We're an angry joe. I think he likes those movies a lot Um, didn't he rate suicide squad really high? He liked kind of steely didn't like bvs, right? Yes, that's right. He didn't like bvs Um, he didn't like suicide. Well, that was david ayer. So I guess that's different What do you think did you like the snider cut? I can't remember Uh, I think good didn't he?  Oh dark fate. I'm pretty sure he defended too.  I just want to see what his rating is for it if I can Scroll and see a number on the timeline Um Who is this guy? He's the whitest Hispanic dude I've ever seen in my life here So this is the this is we got we got he's on one side and you know two on the other side in this This dude in the middle is like what a what an interesting looking fellow That's alex, I think Because I haven't watched nigger joe in ages. So there's joe and then other joe was the one on the from the left Yeah, I remember. I know other joe. Yeah. Yeah Well alex has been around for a while a few years at least Yeah, I haven't watched them in Okay, I would love to see like a rating out of ten uh Oh, oh, here's the angry movie review. Okay. Here it is.  Yeah huh I have an interesting thing To tell you about freaky, but you're gonna have to know off stream because it's technically a spoiler for the debate It's interesting. All right. Okay. Yeah remind me Well, I might forget, but hopefully one of us remembers Trail of the arm for edgar rights new movie comes out like in a couple of days. I'm really hoping that's awesome Yeah, so do I because baby driver was uh a little bit there Don't say that people's people still love that movie Yeah, the cool action scenes the chases were awesome the music soundtrack was a really cool way out Yeah How it was used Uh, don't know if you lads care, but bad batch is better than the mandalorian in its first four episodes The fourth episode was a stinker though Um, okay I don't know being better than mandalorian is like all right good for you. Yeah, you did it Hey rags if two negatives equal a positive then is a baby jewer person Hmm It's an insightful question Not one that i'm prepared to answer For fear of many things, but i'll think about it It ended with dawn bless Oh you too you too Wait if ethan is all mold how did A lu umbrella not detect him being mold also that mia was part of a bio terrorist organization and nobody cares true That is uh, how his story began. That's why she was there Nobody remembers that though. I don't think at this point Not to mention. Yeah, there's no way They wouldn't attested ethan at the end of the events of resident evil seven they would have found out he's a mold person But whatever it's fine. Don't worry about it I'm behind so i don't know if this is already addressed But why is ethan never worried about turning into a lichen after watching the old man?  I remember when I first got bitten That the thought crossed my mind And I was just like they're not gonna do it So there's no point in even thinking about it But then it's funny because I probably should have brought it back up when the old man starts going nuts It's like wait, shouldn't we be going nuts? We've been bitten But no, we're mold mold cancels out lycanthropy.  I don't know what they're gonna say. That's I feel like what will get the one of the things that's gonna come up that I've always hated it'll be like It's so boring and then you'll be like it's not boring. It's so interesting because of the action You know just like arguments like that and I'll just be like Yeah I'm sure there's some good ones in there. I don't know. Um, when you say you should watch it Are you saying because it's really good or because it's really bad but funny? What are you up to? Mola miss banana on stage nine. I feel betrayed I'm sorry If it's if it's worth anything that game just ended up breaking so you know Uh, usually I don't play games like this because I'm a pussy boy But I decided to start soma because you guys I'm at theta now and I'm enjoying it a lot so far just Yeah, just just let it happen to you soma is a Is an experience I guess I'm off to be was it I once killed a big daddy in Hephaestus by making a pile of every single exploding barrel tank on that level Took me 2.5 hours did it because I could Okay That sounds interesting and you know what I like that you can do it I like the bioshock has the it can let you do something like that There's nothing that would stop you from doing that in a reasonable way and then it doesn't actually stop you I have a feeling that people only like this game is because of the tall lady, but I'm not a resident evil expert I think it's more than just the tall lady, but she definitely helped She would have helped get a lot of random people who might not even have touched the game at all to Give it a shot just to be like in on the nose. Like what is this tall lady thing? I don't know Uh, don't tell me what to call my clippazine or my mag mag lip No, it has to be corrected Contranims are words that are their own opposites. Is there an example of that? Do you guys know what a contra nim is? Let me let me look it up a contra nim A word with two opposite meanings Like sanction which can mean both a penalty for disobeying a law and official permission or approval for an action um What so What I was gonna say with that one that would change on the context of the sentence, I suppose Um, I thought they meant something like literally and I was like, no Let's see. I have to uh Uh Angry joe defends the maybe scene a lot of people defend that scene. I I think it's okay Let me take let me click this daily re is 75 contra nims So what would like what would an example be because I think I still don't quite get um Apology a statement of contrition for an action or a defensive one. Oh, yeah like apologetics. Yeah, okay um Ville a payment or an invoice for payment Bolt to secure or to flee Oh, let me see how these work. Yeah, okay. Okay. Um fine excellent or acceptable and good enough Uh, oh, this is a good one. This is finished completed or ended and destroyed I see Like my work is finished or my work is finished And it's like one's been destroyed and one's been, you know, just completed. Yeah. Oh, that's yeah, that's very interesting huh um No, here's our boy quantum significantly large or a minuscule part wonderful uh Joe in the nostalgic video are unironically says he said maybe let them die as an argument and said it's John Kent Not knowing the answer making it nuanced.  That's all good That's nuanced guys. Oh god There are so many ways to write that scene better like every single time someone tries to recontextualize exactly what that Seen is about the dialogue wouldn't be the way that it was if it were that thing Problem is at the fact that Jonathan Kent believes that What repercussions could come from his son giving up his identity is worth the deaths of all the children. That's the problem um Before release I was holding on to hope Well, I hope that lady D was so tall because she was a perf perfected tyrant Turns out she was just a tall body of a disappointment Uh, I mean, yeah, I mean, I'd be lying if I said she wasn't kind of a disappointment because there's nothing to her And I guess it was our mistake to have expected more There's resident evil I demand 12 seconds of attention high all but rags yeah high In dying light you can unlock an ability to counter a zombie That is trying to grab you. It's essentially a qte, but you only Have to do a time at once I was doing this thing that was an alternative to what we got in re8, which was just having to wait Um, yeah, it's just I don't appreciate anything Yeah, at least if I'm like pounced on and I have to mash a button the faster I mash it Uh, the the less damage I take at least I feel like that's an interactive aspect and They sort of it tries to be a Like it tries to mirror the frantic, you know Your physical exertion of trying to push something off of you because it's not really about finesse in that moment It's just about Get it off get off get off and so you're like mashing the button But uh better And yeah, and if it gives you like a reduces of old damage Reduces the damage of the attack by 50% if you tap enough of w and s or whatever A and d It's not going to require a huge amount of it would feel a hell of a lot better for me Especially ending the cutscene faster Oh Please So much better when you're chriss and you can like punch them off in half the time it takes for them to finish the animation That is a superior world um I demand 11 seconds of attention because i'm better than the guy above But he wanted 12. Why would you want less if you're better? What's happening?  I'm marrying re eight. That's not even hard I don't think i'm marrying re eight. Yeah. I'm marrying re eight.   Oh my god. Her and Ethan would be perfect for each other Hollywood Oh, you saved mario. I did indeed you get that really emotional moment that makes the whole game all the struggle worth it Blocking doesn't stop the flies because you wouldn't block an aoe. You don't Tell me That blocking wouldn't work because they're flies in an re game Okay don't Um, but if an axe is coming at you, it's better when it hits your hand rather than your head No, again, you'd run away from all this in it. We're not doing that again What's intuitive what would work?    It's okay Uh, what is the worst bullet sponge enemy you can think of in a game also high regs I have an answer for this.  It just went on and on and on and on Yeah, even the first time we've I played that with a friend.   I would avoid bullet spongy enemies Um, you would actually have to use some level of skill or maneuverability or cleverness to kill not just shoot it a lot Um, there was a bunch when I played the division. Some of those enemies are really spongy Which is weird because they're just people so it makes it really tough for your brain to accept it Resident evil village has a bunch of bullet spongy enemies I remember some of the bosses in destiny being particularly egregious Most bullet sponges Like in those strike missions god some of those bosses Takes like 20 minutes of unloading clips over and over and over again. It's just doing nothing Some of the bosses in Risk of rain too can get really spongy if you know about them beforehand you could prepare and do stuff but If you don't you if you kind of don't know it yet If you don't prepare correctly if you don't get the items you need Some of those but some of those enemies can be very spongy Um Do you feel are too spongy in any of the dark souls games? Do you think they're uh Medea is one of the ones I think that might be the case with prom is I'm playing dark souls 3 Haven't played it in a while so Um But funnily enough when it comes to dark souls at this point some of them are a little bit The opposite problem is happening Like I wish they had a bit more health like it lost a bit longer Some of that's like honestly the problem with some of the more well-designed bosses and some of them where Like ah, this is really satisfying to um Sort of fight these creatures, but they die so quickly that I'm just like well, it's over Which is funny, it's it's almost like I'm Generating a super hot take of like no dark souls didn't need an easy mode. It needs a it's a hardcore mode Crank it up even more I think the bosses in um some of the bosses in Killing floor 2 are really spongy and they stand out. I I've never liked the boss fights in Killing floor 2 I don't think that game just works well with bosses Um, I think in terms of the movement and mechanics and the stuff that you do in the game It just doesn't know itself well to singular extremely difficult enemies Who can essentially if they just decide you're dead then you're dead and that's that uh I think you can tell from all the different attempts they've had with all the different types of bosses They're just trying to find a way to make it work. I don't think they're quite clear on What needs to happen?  I just don't like any of them That's just not a game that really owes itself well It's supposed to be interesting to see like if you were able to craft one. Maybe what you would try If you could make it work Yeah, you'd have to take Yeah, you'd have to think about what you want to do Um, especially think about all the strengths of the game aren't how it translates to uh An enemy that doesn't die as quickly as the rest Yeah, and I already feel like flesh pounds are pushing the boundary in terms of how much health a singular enemy should have Um, just because they they do get a bit spongy And you do have to have classes that are sort of dedicated to killing the big guys Which works when you're playing with people and you know, you're actually in that actually works But the game seems to be at its best when you're killing hordes and hordes of weakish to moderately effective Um So that's what the parry mechanics for no, no, no that that shit won't save you that shit won't save you um Also, whether or not you can survive it isn't necessarily the whole point anyway Yeah, it's like there's like there's nothing you can do like sometimes when a boss will target you in this game You're just dead because he wants to kill you and that's what's gonna happen because you don't have that much at your disposal To really prevent damage um And there needs to be I think there needs to be better ways of Maybe it would be a lot I'd be a lot more keen on it if the rules for the aggro system were more clear And how you could actually use that If that was more functional, uh, or if it was more, I don't know intuitive But it's it's me um Do you think since hollywood has wanted to get uh woke in one direction that they'll have shrunk the talent pool So much in both writing and enacting Um, well not really because I'm pretty sure like throughout all of like time that the majority of people in creative industries are like left leaning I'm not sure that it's changed. Maybe the ratio has changed But like I'm pretty sure that if you just went through like all the time The majority of people in creative industries were more Left leaning than average So not really hollywood. Maybe a little bit Maybe yes. Yeah, definitely in hollywood. Maybe it's different in other countries, but you certainly get that impression, right? Like And there's still artists or there's plenty of talent like really talented writers that are hyper lefties. So Yeah, of course because of course talent isn't based on your political I get I get the idea right that there would be some people who feel are alienated from the wrong Um, no, I you know what nah, I don't I don't buy that But in any case I do imagine that there would be some people who are Feel like they they don't have a place right that they can I would certainly like it's bad It's bad. Yeah, absolutely. The writers out there that aren't uh, you know, like say for example, you just have a board of people and they all agree on a particular Like who would vote for president or whatever else and then is that one guy who just doesn't say anything And they're like, why aren't you saying anything? It's like uh I'm sure that's happened. Yeah, surely Surely it would be better if uh, everybody felt that they could speak freely and um and You know, not feel like they're gonna get fucked over they do um That would be better just in general Luigi colonized south africa Luigi Rank from best to worst bio wave. We're sorry Bethesda and bungee post halo Wait, sorry. What were the the companies bio where Bethesda bungee post halo best to worst I would say Bethesda's probably the best Well, are we talking just the guy? I guess we're talking Bethesda Their first party stuff. Yeah, so what wouldn't I guess not including the stuff they published so like dishonored and stuff doesn't count Okay, like Bethesda softworks the guys who make fallout and elder scrolls um, I still feel like elder scrolls and fallout Are better than like I'd way rather play those than the stuff bio where makes and destiny. Yeah Yeah, um, so I probably put Bethesda up top then And then what bioware and blizzard is next No, it was bioware and bungee. Oh, uh, probably probably put bungee above bioware I probably would Um, I think I'd rather play destiny than a lot of what bioware's been doing lately Yeah, I think I'd rather play destiny But again, it's not it is a very begrudging I'd rather Yeah, I'd rather play I'd rather go play other things. I'd rather not play anything If those are my choices sit in a room You know, yeah, let's do Let's yeah, so Bethesda bungee then bioware um Free is wrong hollywood. Yeah, but they didn't always used to be this way wasn't there a thing in like the 50s where There were like a lot of people who were just like outright communists in uh in hollywood There was a lot of sympathizers in hollywood. Yeah, but oh, but but they they struggled to get work, right at that time Like that was I think a lot of it was they we didn't learn about it till later or they There's a big subversion aspect where they this little pieces here and there but nothing Big I guess that's what I'm kind of caught on in the culture I guess that's what I'm getting at right is that that was probably like a that that's probably just been a thing consistently because it's just um It's like the it seems like art tends to tends to be like the alternative, right? And so like what we've got right now is really weird because like what we're seeing is like the mainstream part So the alternative is I'm not sure and also it's kind of harder for there to be an alternative on the internet sure But in like the industry um How are you gonna get financing? It's a lot harder to make a movie Um within the the industry now, then it probably was back then just budgets.  How I did Luigi Good job luigi. Luigi.  You know, he's he's over I think luigi's great at mario.  Oh, yeah, sure like the Yeah, there was definitely um like a lot of media that was that was part of the the war effort But why would that what what does that prove? was it would I might have believed that like left-wingers in the 1940s were super pro like Nazi Germany If it's about work being political it's like yeah, it's been that way for a long time That was what you meant Latius tau achieve for great space communism Um nice communism is just funny to me I'm Mubalicious you ever heard of an indie top-down horror game named darkwood I think you would like it the story and atmosphere are top-notch. I am I played it for I need to finish that Yeah, I played it for like the first 90 minutes and I I really liked it and then I just one of those games I never Went back to go play but I do need to go and finish that again because I I liked it Luigi has a longer jump in Mario 3. It's like yeah, because he's better I think he jumps higher in the melee game the smash games as well He's faster. I think he's a little bit faster Though I'm pretty sure in melee, uh, they didn't actually get the the the like luigi voice over lines It's just mario, but higher pitch So we don't know We need if have the jazz musical rags on piano fringy on sax and mollus smooth jazz voice I don't know which of the ifs play instruments Can't believe they're saying that just because he's black. It's really it's really kind of Well, no only reason one I play saxophone. No, no, it's it's we know. No, we know. We know it's just It's it's fine All right, saxophone. No, it's never in doubt. Yeah, it was never in doubt Such a big fan of saxophone is like an instrument.    I don't I don't get it Well, yeah come friday That would be an interesting Well, it'll be interesting considering that there is you know, I do there is a movie that we talked about that I still like Oh, yeah, I that's saturday.  It was like they might use their horns, even though they're not like pure ivory or whatever, but it was just like, oh god, that's terrible I thought what condo was meant to be civilized. That's pretty primitive Might use it for their meat and their milk Oh jesus eating rhinos instead of domesticating another more abundant animal It's just funny rhino milk brotherhood Of the wolf slash efat movies Uh, brotherhood of the wolves that I'm assuming that's a movie It's about the beast of gevedan Or gevoden, I don't know Yeah, I have never heard of it But maybe maybe I want heisenberg to narrate my human intercourse with lady d Yeah, that's fair I'm sure I give you a lot of encouragement Like you can do it that sort of thing To play as devil's advocate, isn't it possible that one would make prototype weapons to counter your own? Oh wait, I think we read this one out. It was about heisenberg's uh tank There's a lot of reasons that fell apart What man, I don't know. I don't know about developing products I oh, I don't know just think remember what the thing is that could kill you don't build it Leave it around nearby.  We're like, you're not gonna be getting characters. I'm sorry They'll get some plot That's you know, everyone likes plot Yeah, the rest of the evil plot This comic is gonna look so goofy like I'm I'm working on the the next page I'm coloring it and like the uh, the the entire style of shading has changed because I didn't like the original one So It's gonna be super inconsistent when it's done. We'll be eventually You'll have to double check this But I think they use to run Alternating current through a wire around ships to prevent sea mines from being magnetically attracted to it That could be an easy fix Yeah, uh, I'm sure chase is a nice guy, but uh That's the super chat just that Rags play holo night and then tell me you don't like metroid vaniers I'm sure there are some that I've like there's probably some that I've played that I do like I just in general don't like them Like I like betroid zero mission But in general I don't like metroid. Yeah and echoes but in general like I just don't really like I don't like games because they are that way. I feel they can be that thing and I can like them Yeah, I don't like the backtracking element right that was Yeah, it's just not something I really enjoy or yeah, I mean I get that something that just doesn't appeal to me Because if you don't like that then yeah, you know Well, like I'm pretty neutral and there's many different like it It was like I was talking about in residency before you go to the village three times But the first two times are kind of similar. The third one is totally different. So it doesn't even feel like the same place There are ways to make it work that are a okay and like the light world and dark world aspect of Metroid prime echoes was kind of nifty and You know, I was gonna say like there are people who will I think it's reasonable to not like a genre As a whole for the most part if someone was like, I don't like rail shooters. For example, I'd be like I could probably see why um Or if they said they didn't like point and click uh games as a whole Um I just saw somebody chat say chase is the superior reef app instead of my wife's a doc there would be I have a girlfriend We watch our we watch anime together wet bread That was a that was a good moment. I enjoyed it. Yeah, that was fucking hilarious Hi rags Hi can't wait for fringoo to hit the market Yeah, fringoo I don't know if that's the name I would settle on if I was to mass produce it But that's not really on the cards at the moment We're still in the research and development phase at fringies. I actually there is no company name for my This this particular goo enterprise Is your laboratory bigger or smaller than luigi's mansion? Um, the problem is I don't have a good sense of scale for luigi's mansion So it's what three four four stories tall placement, I guess too. Yeah I mean, that's a big I don't really have the resources to um I'm not I'm not quite there yet One day maybe Yeah, you know one day One day I'll be able to pay for a whole island to do my research and development in I like how that's just the whole mark of a rich person. I own an island. I own sizeable portion of the earth Um, I own more that I think people think is reasonable Like this whole thing is mine. Yeah, doesn't uh, doesn't mark zuckerberg on a private island probably Richard Branson does for sure and uh, I think the guy who is in charge of Oracle, I think he has a private No, I think he I think he actually wanted to buy like one of the islands of hawaii Not like a small one either, you know a pretty sizable one I can picture that when you get to a particular rich low, you're just like, I should have an island That's just something I should have, you know Well, Warren Buffett Warren Buffett's always the example of like the reasonably humble billionaire because he still lives in like Omaha In Nebraska where he was born and like grew up if he buys America And canada and max he could have his own island then He's got a nice house though. The whole thing's considered because even though it was like, oh, you know, it's the same house It's 1956. It's like that was a good house in 1956 You've got Um, I'm pretty sure he's gonna donate like 95 of his money to charity when he dies. So that's that's uh, that's pretty chad Yeah, the rest he's gonna have stuffed into his coffin.  Can you do that though? Isn't that um, uh, I think just oh destroying money is illegal, isn't it? Yeah Because well makes sense, right because the government wants to regulate the flow of the money I'm curious I think I know the answer question, but I'll ask it anyway Let's say he's like super into that and he manages to get all of his money liquidated and put into cash And then he's gonna kill himself But not before burning all of it and then and then he does it I guess there's nothing they could do about that, right? Like would they try and recreate that lost? Money they try and figure out how much was burnt. I guess Maybe that would be there all of that protocol. Yeah, I'm not sure what they're um, I guess. I don't know Yeah, I don't I don't know if it'd be worth it like the amount of money that you like it's it's more of a general sentiment thing And you you generally don't have to tell people don't destroy money Yeah, it's not that's like the last thing that comes into one's mind when they think about money But yeah, I often it's as I would imagine it's not that big of an issue Getting people destroying lots and lots of money. They'd rather have it And also even with as much money as he has It's not much compared to the amount of money that like exists in uh in the united states. I would imagine um I don't know actually, yeah About the arm blocking thing moeller.   You can't strafe. Just figure out. Yeah Obviously the problem is just ask them how they define a tank control And then figure out what yours is and then see what we're missing components on that game, right? No Yes, you cannot say the resident evil four. Yes. That's where I I'm not certain but I'm almost I'm almost certain that that's where the name comes from I mean that makes sense. I can't straight. Thank. Yeah. It has to turn the direction like it. Yeah Yeah, that makes Okay, I'm not even sure why that would even be a controversial uh topic if you've clarified what um what tank controls mean If you can agree on what tank controls are then it is that Morely, you forgot that Shinji Mikami director Uh, let's see uh Shinji Mikami director of the first resident evil in 1996 chose to use fixed camera perspectives and tank controls To make the game scarier He explained that in this way the player could not se