I think you've been reading anything recently that's interesting. This is super amusing because I'm pretty sure we talked about this like right before I went to sleep.  I don't know if you are that way for anyone else.  Oh, I don't know if I can take an hour. I'm very hard to really take it out of you. I I got like less than three hours of sleep. So I'm doing great. Hey, don't think of it as less than three hours of sleep. Think of it as you got more than two hours of sleep. Oh, man, more than two hours of sleep. So lucky. Splash water in your face. I'm splash some coffee. Take the mask off first, though. I don't want to splash the coffee in my face. That'll burn. I'm not. I want to do that. That is you'll be awake as fuck, though.  It's really comfy. So you're you're constantly just being tempted to fall asleep. Is it air-conditioned? No, but, you know, it doesn't need to be. It's it's that well designed. Nice. It is floral scented from what I understand. Yeah, kind of. Yeah, it's it's it's neat, but you're distracting me. So I just saw on Twitter a thread where a guy gets and says that he hates when people cite from soft games when talking about the idea of like difficulty modes, you know, like the whole subject of all games should have an easy mode. They said that it's. So he said that it's insulting to the games to cite them just like that for those arguments, which I find really weird because like I don't know why it would be insulting if this is the topic being discussed. You know, yeah, it's insulted because of the citation of Dark Souls. His he is annoyed when people cite like Dark Souls against the idea of putting in an easy mode in video games because he thinks it's an insult to those games. Like it's not. The idea being that you've you've misunderstood what made them special. But like, let's be real, Dark Souls is special because it's hard. Like, at least that's what everyone talks about. Yeah, that's why it's brought up all the time for this argument. So we briefly talked about it last night, which is why I find it amusing that this exists is. I think that the Souls games and a lot of difficult games have this sort of meta value where like if you find out that somebody else has beaten the game or accomplished something, there's a recognition of like the challenge there and that they did the same thing that you did. And that can be really cool as like a little meta experience. But moreover, like the fundamental answers to this question is like, oh, you know, it's up to the developers. It depends on what they want to do with the game. Easy mode is cool in certain things and other times. They don't want to do it. That's totally fine. Not all games are for everyone. Yep. Correct. And then I saw that this isn't meant for you thing. What's that, sir? This isn't meant for you. Well, yeah, but it's kind of like difficulty is a part of video games or at least the only medium that you can't there has to be difficulty. Yeah, it isn't passively. And you can't passively engage with most video games require some active level of involvement. Challenge is necessary. Even if that challenge is minimal, there has to be some kind of a challenge there. It has to exist in some form and also it's not interactive. If it's impossible to fail, I don't see how it could be a game. Yeah, I thought about that. But I'm not sure where I sit at, whereas like what it like, if it's possible for there to be a video game that you can't fail. I don't know what you mean. Like there's a series of platforms.  Well, I guess you still do that. That comes into what is it to have a fail state, right? Yeah, I would say that fail state if you're set back. But but I don't know what a game looks like without one. So the only thing I've heard is regards to difficulty really or argument wise is journalists complaining that they've got too many games. We've got too many games to review. So we need an easy mode so we can smash through them.  Well, I'd say the super awkward part is that when you play a game, I'm like, like, if you played Halo on on like the lowest difficulty and then you give me a review, I'm not sure that's worth much to me. It's not because that's how I'm going to play the game. But it's not about it's not about difficulty or time. It's about being first. Well, that's the only thing it's about. You know, you're angry, Joe.  Because it's the credibility, but these journalists have no credibility. So it's just about being first. So they have to moan and complain about difficulty levels because they're too busy writing about Orange Man bad. It really feels as well as though we've been a way better world if more journalists were less concerned with covering everything and more concerned with covering the things that they're passionate about.  And then if everyone split up into like, hey, I don't know anything about Metroid and then, you know, Gary in the office like, oh, I love Metroid. I'll do that one then. Hey, OK, yeah, Gary, I'll do that one. Yeah, it was like we're hiring people based on their skill sets like sports, RPGs, action, adventure, able to complete a game. Yeah, yeah. Well, you could. I mean, we just but you could look at things like your your trophy levels. You could look at your achievement levels and have that as part of your your CV, your curricular V time or your over it's coming out of the places like. Where's the May?  Is I guess the problem with this whole topic is that I feel like solidly concluding. That all games should have easy mode is like we're missing something here. You know, like doesn't it make you wonder as well? Like isn't difficulty a little bit relative to the point where whatever easy mode they implement, someone could be like, I need an easy mode compared to this mode. This mode is too loud for me even. I guess the the problem is like once you start getting to like invincibility, how far can you go with that? You literally just press play the game just plays. You're like, ah, my goodness. I mean, like this, like this, the games that now implement this auto battle feature, we just hold down the button and it doesn't fighting for you. The game is definitely cried at this. And I think the the recent near game that I played, I think that one has an auto battle feature on the easiest mode. A lot of mobile games have that feature. Surprise, surprise. Yeah, if you can pay for it, probably battle. Yeah. Oh, cool. Thanks. Remember video games? I mean, there's already people complaining that they're getting too cinematic now and they're just essentially turning into movies. You know, if you took all the cutscenes out of the last transgender of us, then how much of an actual game do you have? It's it's it's a lot of backtracking that game. There's a lot of backtracking still gameplay. I would take that over, you know, a lot of shit you can get for these days in terms of really, really like if we're going to go bargain barrel bin things like like mobile games can get so much worse where you just literally like repeating mechanics over and over and over again, but they change the skin because they paid like one artist to just keep, you know, chaining out different things that look different slightly. But then it's all like, you can skip all of this, you pay more money. It's just like, is this even a game anymore? I don't know. Nothing else on mobile games is they just start here and have a five here because you download the game, you get like five levels. Oh, so everybody does that. So I'm still level one, like who you fooling? Didn't Final Fantasy seven start at level seven? Didn't you start at level seven in Final Fantasy seven? Could be, could be, which is also weird, I guess. I don't know. I have a mobile specifically. They say like, oh, here is your reward for downloading the game. Oh, no, you're level five high five. Oh, good. Did it. No one's ever been level one, two, three or four in the history of this game. Before I was going to say that we get started, it's probably worth us just doing a little blip about Loki. Everyone's asking about Loki. That's not what this e-fap's about, but I know that it just finished. And it's it's so good. OK, let's move on. Well, four of us have seen it. Rags is not. So I'll take the opportunity to you were lucky bastard. Well, I was going to say, I'm sure you guys all agree, it'll take me what, like 10 seconds to cash rags up with the one episode of the events of the single episode. I guess, yeah, yeah. Well, nothing happened in the episode. Yeah, they, um, they walk into the spooky house at the gas cloud. There's a man named Kang in there. He basically did all of the stuff that we were told by the cartoon in episode one and they kill him. And so the multiverse has now been born. Oh. And it's confirmed that as of killing him, they have now released free will into the world. Hmm. There was no free will before then. Yeah. Wow. Well, I'm so sorry.  But OK. Yeah. And there's these that I loved.  Get excited. Wow. No, no, no, no, just like this. Kang, the Conqueror will return. If watching six episodes of this show had actually yielded something, but it didn't, it basically was six episodes. Say, go watch something else. By the way, I guess I will talk about we'll talk about all of this in a week and a half time. That's that's Loki's time. All right, Black Widow still hasn't been addressed until the end of this week. OK, there's so much to talk about, but we'll say they presented a choice, Rags. They're told they can spare him and everything can continue as it has been, but they will be in control of what events happen, you know, what choices are made, blah, blah, blah. Or they can kill, of course, would. Loki would turn down that power. Oh, absolutely. Turn that down. Yeah, he wouldn't want that. The other option is kill him and you make the sacred timeline just born of a zillion different threads and you have millions of different Kang's inside them.  There'll be an all out timeline war, much like the. I was a real timeline war. There's no explanation for any of this. You just have to sort of go with it. Oh, because the Kang's all met up.   Well, he's it's so weird because he's like tired, I guess. And then he was playing the door as to why he wanted to stop.  And then one of them will be victorious and it'll one of that one will create the sacred timeline again and we'll just be back to square one. So he says that that's you get choice. He'll choice be awesome.  And there's like no discussion about this.  It's like, oh, and then she and Loki have have a mini boss fight because Loki is you might think Loki advocates for taking over. Right. But no, Loki advocates for the insane position of maybe we should talk about these options. Maybe we should discuss this. Sylvie is not having that because she's a very frustrating character. Yeah, she she's not allowed to have a thought in that scene because we have to push the plot along. It's like Loki is like, okay, this is might be a bit bigger than us up to our experience. We might want to consider if there's this real noise.  He's just like, what are you doing? Well, I've seen people are totally like it's totally alive with the character. She hates the TVA. It's like this is well beyond that. This is beyond everything now. You literally got the keys to the kingdom of reality and she's like, I'm mad because you were mean to me when I was a kid. I'm like, yeah, that's fine. I know. But like we've just addressed like space and time being controlled off fingertips. But that would also mean that he was controlling Sylvie throughout all of her life as well. All her decisions were his. How do they have the free will to defy him? Why would he have the sacred time? No, he said that I built this road for you to come down. Yeah, he says that everything up until like about that scene was planned and then like halfway through that scene. He's like, oh, now we're like we got free will break. Like, I don't know what's going to happen now. Yeah, we went. Oh, wow. That's how horribly inconvenient. It's so cool. We finally get to see a scene in the MCU where characters get to make choices candidly. It's amazing. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.  It's like he has done wonders for my end game video. Well, yeah. Yeah, it's now it's no longer Tony Stark's terrible idea to save his daughter. No, it's actually Kang. It's Kang that made a terrible decision yet to cock up the whole of the MCU end game and it's not caps decision to stay with Carter. No, no, he wanted he was actually thinking I need to come back home be a hero, but Kang was like, no, you got to get I read this to the other guys yesterday to sort of highlight how wrong everything went in. Loki got worse from got worse from just this point.  I think I think I wrote this is what I first wrote. If I had to account for everything Loki introduces, I'd have to preface every statement with if things hadn't gone this way, the Avengers would have been melted by fascist space lizards. Nice simple. This is what I now have to say. I'd have to preface every statement with if things hadn't gone this way, the Avengers would have been sent to the end of time by Kang the conqueror space fascist lizard front organizations be consumed by a purple dragon cloud in order to preserve the sacred timeline from becoming a massive branches, which will inevitably go to war with one another and destroy the multiverse. So yeah, that's the first couple times like the first three or four times you should do that just to drive the point home and then say, I think you guys get the point. I don't have to say this anymore, but you should do it. You should do it a couple of times. Yeah, I probably will do it. Maybe cut yourself off on the third one. Like, all right. Yeah, it's completely irrelevant that the MCU tried to backtrack on Loki by saying, oh, he was actually being controlled by the Mind Stone because he wasn't because Thanos was controlled by kind of by Kang. So it's all great. So nobody was all Kang, Kang, Kang was every going controlled by every what Kang. Yeah. Well, so this is the funny thing, right? There's no free will up and one scene in this episode, nothing in the MCU has been free will. The way it's like devs. Yeah, I know the way that they have implied it works is the Kang is just overseeing the trillion trillion options for everyone to do everything ever and he picks out what he wants. He's like, I want this. I want that person to say this. I want that person to do this. It's like, wow. Cool. You know, it's funny. It's like if James going comes out with Guardians 3 and in interviews and stuff like, oh, it's a great movie.  And he's like, what? And they're like, well, because obviously this is after Kang was defeated by Loki and the timelines of all and you could just see his face drop. I like how the movies have become the comic books now. It's just this insane tangled web of cause and effect and timeline and. Well, you guys have said that, right? As they're becoming more and more like the comics currently now as well. Well, no, because the comic, the comics are just all women. We're getting there. We're getting there. Come on. Yeah, we are. We're getting we're getting there. We are just going to kill a few more guys. It is it is more like the comics in as much as all they're doing now is sitting and talking and drinking and talking and eating and talking and standing and talking. Wow. There's a lot of all the incredible action scenes. What do you mean? You mean the one how much action was there in this episode? I think it lasted. About a minute and a half. If you think about it, it's the only way they could have an action scene and it was contrived as fuck, but they had to because you can't not have an action scene. And the action scene ended by Loki saying, I just want you to be okay. They kiss Rex. They kiss Bill. All right, that's great. He always was the romantic. No, she is him. He doesn't kiss her. She kisses him. Oh, but he's not. He's not pushing back. No, but he's emails not allowed to initiate a kiss anymore. Otherwise it's rape. I have a question. Yeah, my question is and that we can discuss it at length or not at all. If you'd like, do you think they purposefully released Black Widow before the end of Loki for fear that the end of Loki and its reveal about free will and all that stuff would nullify to a degree the events of what happens in Black Widow. I feel like I was thinking for them like it was a very cold calculus for when would be the best time to release these things. I don't know that they did it with Mandalorian and Rise of Skywalker like almost the exact same way too. So I just wonder if that's just apparently the way to do it numbers wise. That's just that's just the way to do it. Seems like they try and line things up so that when something ends, there's something new for people to move on to the next thing because the formula is very clearly now not about getting answers or conclusions. It's always about what's next. What's the next thing to cream your pants over. Well, this is a whole series about what's next. Yeah, it's all big series. The series is absolutely big. And it's funny you say that I put out a tweet saying something similar and someone responded saying it's just funny how people are pretending as though that hasn't been comic book movies this whole time baiting the next thing. And I feel like people have been so poisoned right now by the current set. They don't remember that stories used to end. Yeah, yeah, you can make up. That's normally set up in like the post-credits scene. This is a whole series of set up and each film had its own, you know, unique individual story, whether or not you'd like to or not, you know, irrelevant, but it had its own unique story that it told the Falcon and the Winter Soldier told its own story about Bucky and Steve. Iron Man told its own story about the development of Tony Stark and, you know, it's the end credit scenes that have the little bit of a, oh, by the way, I'm Mr. Man and I'm going to meet you in the next film. So it almost felt like the movie equivalent of I make more videos on my channel that you can check about if you want. They'll be over here. But nowadays it's you didn't care about what you just saw. You care about this. Look at the look of that. Yeah, I got PewDiePie cameo in my next video. We're going to nullify everything that came before it, but now it really matters. So keep watching. Yeah. And it seems like the bait is the content on the rest of it. It's just kind of like, it's fine. Just fill the time. I guess that's the problem. It feels like especially this phase that it's really about what's next. Like it wasn't really about WandaVision. It's about like Doctor Strange and Loki's not really about Loki. It's about Doctor Strange and Falcon and Winter Soldier is about maybe like Secret Invasion or the next Captain America movie. Underbolts, yeah. Like, yeah, and Black Widow is about Hawkeye and like Yelena becoming a thing. Like that's what these things are. They're not and then when Doctor Strange comes out, that'll be about something else. We'll soon find out. That'll be about like at least once or whatever it is. Yeah, exactly. We wouldn't feel this way if each of these stories was really crafted with a lot of care and they were written well and they didn't just take a crap over everything that came beforehand. But as it seems, pretty much everything that's come out after Infinity War, with the exception of Far From Home, has just been unminigated disaster. It's not even like Loki came out of this being like, I'm Loki.  I'm a bad guy. You know, I'm going to mess up the whole timeline. I'm going to create the multiverse and let chaos ensue.  The whole series just crying and following Sylvie and crying and trying to tell Sylvie that he's on his period and he loves her and then he crying and crying like three times in this episode. And it's funny because we were just yesterday talking about how Natasha doesn't really make any decisions herself in Black Widow. She's tossed around the plotline by other characters and Loki's the same thing. Yeah, he's cross extremely.  And this show, he is insanely depowered. He is very he's just not. I'm not afraid of him. I'm not concerned for him. I'm not in any way just worried about this character. I don't even think that he could be my enemy. He's heading actually. I'm pretty sure you could just kick his head and he would cry. Well, I know I could kill the TVA because I have a gun that shoots bullets. They've got glow sticks. Yeah, watch out. Yeah, it's like we've got batons. It's okay. But what if someone breaks a sacred timeline who has like a gun or a stick that's a little longer than yours?  Creepy alien. Oh, scary painted lady with glow stick.  Pixar by her foot drags her through the pulse using her as a club to hit everyone else in the TVA.  And yeah, that's that's just the current state. We will talk in depth about the law. But today we have different plans. All right. I'm going to switch us switch our gears. Okay. That was a little teaser. That was a the event. The e-fappers will return in the next episode to talk about how bad the MCU is. You guys, you've got some jangling keys. So stuff things things happened in the course of last week that made me decide to to collect a whole bunch of things and put y'all on a journey.  But Fringian Rags and I as a co-host know the least. My two co-hosts know the littlest about all of this because it's I don't know what the hell's going on. Nope. So we will start with us now. I had to be paid to be here. This there is someone who was recommended to us through super chats a couple of times actually and they they popped up in my recommended. I think all they were in discord and I was like, I'll give it a shot. So we're going to stop. Yes, we can start his own YouTube channel after the multiverse happened. Hitler's just back. He's like, hey, yeah, checking it out. Now that I'm I'm free. I love juice. I think that great. I am so gutted that Kang made me do that in my heart of hearts. I love the juices entire time. Now I can be free. I've read some history books and I'm going to buy some oceanfront property in Israel. I'm a good man. I will leave amongst them.  He's very anti-Palestine.  I got to burn it. Go to one is Israel is the land of the Jews, as I've always said, as I was wanted to say. It's my mantra. Keeps his Twitter open to see if he's getting banned. So you can call me the Hebrew hammer. The description will keep getting up updated with links. So the links to everything we cover today will be in the description. You just have to refresh if you want the current one. First thing we're doing is checking out a channel called Madvocat. He responded to a high tops video on Wonder Woman, which we did check out back in the day. I was just going to say we're going to have a little look first one or eighty four eighty four. Oh, the real it. They're really bad one. They're really bad. They're both really bad. Yeah. Fantastic. They're being mad at someone's. That was sort of our first for they can do. Well, it wasn't our first for a but. It it felt very marvely. Hmm. What what now? Wonder Woman eighty four. I mean, it felt marvelling. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I don't think so at all. I think it was like just. I like how the Jenkins doesn't know how to write. No, I think all the wishes and all that sort of stuff. I think it very marvely. I don't I don't think it felt like I don't really know. I'm I'm confused. What? What? What is it? Like what in Marvel made you? What do you see Marvel? Marvel is like a multicolored sludge, if you will. It is a it's like when you go when you go to an ice cream parlor and they have all of the the tubs, right, that are open on the other side of the counter and you're looking at them and they're just all a big different mix of stuff. And then there's that one and it's it's got all the different colors and it's all just just whatever. That's what Marvel is now. It's a multicolored it's a it's a it's a confectionary multicolored sludgy ice cream color.  What? Oh my God, what is this? And that's what it felt like to me. You seem like Wonder Woman 84 is like the movie that represents Phase Four of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in a way or it almost felt like a strange harbinger for it. Hmm. Well, we're doing everyone on the planet gets to make a wish and it's going to end exactly how she needs a man. She needs a man. She did, which a lot of people criticize Patty Jenkins for actually. Yeah, because. Heterosexuality is awful. Oh, this is here's the thing is awful. Right. She remembers something that happened in a previous installment and she tries to get it back and then everyone hates her for it. So boom, harbinger for Marvel, where we just take a dump on everything that came before because we learned our lesson. Well, you know what happens? That's what happens. The whole everybody gets their wishes thing that does kind of feel like the writing team for Marvel now.  As long as you fill some boxes. Yeah, I'm Diana's wish. I wish Steve Trevor came back in a different man's body so I could rape him. No, no, you have what Marvel? What what what Marvel? What Moller just said.  Everyone can just do what they want now. Literally, that's how Loki ends.  Everyone could just do what they want now pretty much. It's it's basically it's like poetry. It's right. Yeah, you're right in terms of certainly from the matter because if you're if you're like I want to write a Marvel film with, you know, an elephant cast spells in the middle of the dark abyss of the underworld.  Go for it. The multi business unlocked. You could do every one. Oh, yeah, it used to be. Well, I got to clear it with Kang, but no, no, no, no, go for it. It's it's your wit. The world is your oyster now. Well, wish it make it happen. Don't let your memes be dreams. Believe to achieve to be of you thought that the world was like that, but it wasn't. But now it is being a clearing things with Kang.  And you have one to be like, I would like to bring him back in a different body to rape.  He probably went, I'm not going to kink shame.  So, okay. Normally it's the other way round, but in this case, and you know what, let it pass. It worked out in a way.  They were like, hey, the truth is beautiful. That was such a. I was really hoping at the end of Wonder Woman though when she was speaking to him and she's like looking at him like, I've just raped you and you've got no idea. He would just turn around and go, it's going to be a great year also. And he just turned around and went, yeah, my boyfriend and I are really looking forward to it.  What if you turn around and he was like, I know. I know what you did. He's got a tear in his eye. He's got just one tear coming down his face. I know what you did, hero. I know. Yeah. Think of the newspapers. He just walks off, just walks off slowly. Doesn't say a word after that. It'd be a tough life if he watches all of the news reports of how she saved the world. He's like, yeah, she did. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. He's on like, Wendy. What's the name on TV? Wonder Woman raped me. He's like a little interview morning program. It's like, I have to reveal the truth. She raped me. You couldn't have a boyfriend back because he blew up 50 years ago. She decided to stick him in me. He was inside me and he was inside of her. My horror story. He's got a book for it as well. Yeah, he's pushing his book. Wonder Woman and me, a rape story. The truth behind the wonderful. Logical plot are quite wonderful. Oh, yeah. That's anyway. Oh, okay. This time of Sarasaga. I should probably, I'll roll him back and this video starts straight away. Okay. You don't, there's no like, whoo. You know, there's been a lot. Okay. Okay. There's no point in being mad at someone's emotional response to the art they consumed.  But I also can't be mad. I ain't mad at all. I'm the opposite of mad. Are you sure about that? So we are here. Why the anger and hostility dude? I'm always rewriting anything video. I remember this is on Twitter. I can't remember who was responding to though. Yeah. I think he was just shitting on response videos. Oh yeah. Do you remember he said don't say shit? Like, do you not prefer read and redraft to a fellow writer? If you want to have people who support your work? That was such a bad look. That's a good meme. We made a good meme out of that. Man. You were. Yeah. There's for reference as we don't know he basically people were like, I think someone's cause like a word was gotten wrong or some delivery was wrong. They were just like worth redraft in a script. You know, and he was like, don't say that to a fellow writer. If you want support in the future. Okay. It's time to redraft you freak. Oh, it's like dab. Okay. Shit, man.  It just felt like you'll never work in this town again, kid. That sort of thing. So that guy's just a wonder one. High Top is absolutely right. All memeing aside. So right off the bat, this is not a rant on his opinions, but rather me questioning his standards and some contradictory statements. He makes how he described certain moments feels cherry picked if you will. It seems like it's already had things pretty good. Yeah, I dig it. Yeah. The movie presented or intended and then ignored most of the execution. This response is not going to be in chronological order because the claim he makes at the end needs to be addressed first. And then I can briefly explore why it's nonsense by using some of the scenes he brings up in his video. There are some things to make clear before getting started. If you think hating on art with an attitude of superiority is easy, tough luck, but so is praising it. There is a channel that has almost 2 million subscribers from doing this. Yeah, there was a high top has an attitude of like, you know, it's so much harder to be like nice to art to praise it. It's like, no, there's plenty of opportunities people have to just praise art.  See, that would be our position. Yeah, I know. Maybe that's what he was saying. But like anything.  What was it? The label is toxic positivity where it's just like people who get aggressive when you're not positive.  This is good. You're like, oh, damn. Sorry, I didn't mean to upset you. Yeah. Cinema wins has got a whole career basically just saying things are good and his arguments are, you know, they're there. Pretend for a while to do that. It's what you wanted and see how you feel. Oh, no, there it is. There it is. There is our boy. Have you seen that before as we see that argument? Yeah, critical drink. It seems to use that a lot. Yeah, pretend, you know, just pretend for a watch through whatever watch through us what you wanted. Yeah, you feel this is in regards to the Emperor being alive by the way, you can't you can't pretend. That's not how it works. You don't go. No. Okay, I'm going to like low key. I mean, I'm going to go pretend I low key of this. I know it's not how it operates. Yeah, that's that's skipping to the end step. It's worth it. It's worth it. Try by watching it and then letting the content that we've watched actually formulate how we feel. Isn't that how stuff? Absolutely. But the thing is, when you're defending something like Rise of Skywalker, maybe you pull this out because what else are you going to do?  Maybe you just change yourself fundamentally. Then you'll enjoy Rise of Skywalker. Yeah, maybe if you just pretended you're a completely different person with different thoughts and beliefs, you'd like it, which is an argument. Yeah, especially you tend not to feel the way that they did. Such an amazing argument. It's what you wanted and see how you feel. Negative criticism. I think I think Green could just edit in his video in there to put that in. Oh, I can't remember which one he cited. But like, yeah, everybody should be aware that someone made that argument on the Internet. It's such an amazing one. You can apply it to everything ever. What? Someone just like Loki. I like it. Yeah, of course, this tweet though, speaking from experience is much easier to hate on art with an attitude of superiority than it is to empathize with art from a place of understanding. That fun doing the form would have this argument for Hitler. And he ends up saying criticize from love as if like it's up to him whether or not you've done that.  Do you really think it comes from the fact that I just want to hate stuff? Or do you think maybe it destroys everything I was invested in in the MCU up till now? It's like, yeah. Ding dong. Which one? I don't know. The point of desperation as in we're desperate to save films from descending into horrific madness. But it could be as simple as somebody saying I paid to watch this. Yeah, and I don't feel as if I got my money's worth. I feel as if I got ugly. Which was in a way we've we skipped over another truth, which is like, I'm sorry. If someone really hated the message in something, they just hated it.  This is terrible. It's like what they're not like it's too easy to hate it that way. You should empathize. Look, I'm saying this because I know exactly what he's talking about. Right. I'm assuming you guys do as well. He's talking about the rape. He he believes you should empathize with the fact that Patty Jenkins was not trying to portray rape. So stop saying she did. It's just so easy to do that. Well, yeah, it is easy to look at rape and say that's right. Yeah, that's that's difficult not to. Yeah. Well, the thing high top is an interesting creator. He has some ideas that it is. They just don't survive scrutiny at all. It's not a superiority thing because it was literally as soon as the film happened, there were loads of us. There was my I needed myself. That was Gary. I think it was drinker. There was loads. Do you think is he self as well? But immediately we're just like she just raped a guy. If it's really gross, you know, or you've got movies recording the set of us see she like turns over in a bed and sees them. We all go. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. And we you think of all the things in life that you wouldn't apply this line of reasoning to like, oh, I didn't mean to run over that pedestrian. Please empathize with my intentions. Please please. Yeah, please empathize with my intention to just go to the grocery store.  Yeah, I know that's the thing that's so strange about it is we talked about it at length during the movie when we're watching it. What an extremely bizarre creative decision to do this logical roundabout to give her Steve Rogers in a weird fozzi form for her to have. What a bizarre creative decision of all the things he could have just appeared. But that would have been too easy. I've been criticizing Wanda vision because of the fact that she mind controlled a town full of people. Yeah. What is the difference between her mind controlling a town full of people and being rightfully criticized for doing it being called a villain and this man having his life taken over and not being in control of his life because Steve Rogers is now is now existing in his form and doing his life for him. I you know it's it's like I when I think about that movie and like that particular plot point I still find it really bizarre like I can't believe that like a $200 million big budget like massive film and like it how how how did now this get the thumbs up and remember she retweeted someone defending her yeah for this so was like well clearly a commentary on like 90s movies approaching the subject awkwardly body swap stuff and she was like yep that was it yep mm-hmm yep that was it. In the body so like freaky Friday that was mother and daughter they were aware of each other's body swap. Well so that's the thing she not only in big is just broke. She's desperate for a defense for a movie because she doesn't have one but she's also shitting on all these other movies because she's like trying to bring them down with who's she did a lot worse.  I guarantee you she would have as much freedom next time.  It was bizarre to find out that Alex loved it. It's going to age like come.  The reason why he thought it was good is because it was a creative vision and that's all he cares about is like was there a creative vision here. It doesn't matter if it was like bizarre or awful or like kind of but it does matters a lot because it impacts the story and it impacts the moral core of the character. Well yeah I mean as far as I'm concerned like it's vision we can talk about. She was seeing the man. We the we were only seeing Steve for the audience's benefit. Yeah. Him all the time. She was seeing him. So I I don't know if I because for me when I watched it I thought that the mirror reflection was just I thought that she saw the guy but she knew that it was Steve Steve. Yes. Yeah. I think that's it. Yeah because we got confused on that when we were watching it we weren't sure what the movie wanted us to think exactly. Yeah the guy was there. That's why she was acting all weird when he was falling around. Yeah. So he it's Steve in the guy's body so that the guy with the dark hair because he's one let's say handsome man I think he's handsome man is the physical form of this this entity. Yes. So even though we see Steve it's just purely for our benefit because we're you know silly for so we can have the actor again instead of just having the character and then everyone says why don't just have Steve in the narrative. Why don't why don't you just have it be Steve. Yeah because why don't you just say one minute I was in the plane and I saw a light and I went to the light and I felt good and then the next moment I'm in an alleyway in downtown you know San Francisco over it's being said he could literally evaporate it anywhere.   Oh right yeah yeah. Anyway it's bizarre that he did it this way. It's a bizarre film. Yes it's a really bizarre film. Guaranteed to come from hate either nitpicks are inconsequential. There's no internal consistency versus emotional resonance debate. It's internal consistency and emotional resonance versus emotional resonance. One is not a counterbalance to the other. Both can and have been achieved many times being a fantasy sci-fi or comic book movie that had good intentions with heart. He laughs a little like that. So the sincerity put into it is not a get out of jail free card. And I think he's completely right just because you've got heart does not mean you're suddenly you know like immune to criticism of plot holes and stuff. We're other projects. We're really hard to have their heart and to make sense just because you were like I have heart too. It's like that's cute.  That's what that's what we're discussing there. We're discussing the the the sense of it. Absolutely to have the man and Steve we're discussing the sense of that. So you know we're all we'd say we'd all be happy. I think I can speak with everyone here that if Steve just turned up Steve just turned up because of the wish. Yeah the film just yeah it just works so much better. There's nothing they lose like I yeah. Plenty of my joy that there's fitting visuals on what he's crazy. I'm so happy. It's nice. It's really nice. Get out of jail free card plenty have solid plots or establish rules and stick to those rules even fictional ones take all of this into account and that is how I'm currently invested in discussing movie and TV quality.  Why are you not a boring objective robot that points out every continuity era because I care. Because I could because we don't we don't care about internal consistency in plot. If you could if you care about plot holes you don't care was lame. Yeah you don't care about them but if you don't care about them you do care. It's very complicated. It's just funny. I just find it I just don't think it's impressive to to be like you know what I ignored all of how it was constructed. I just I went for what the person was going for. It's like yeah that's really easy as far as I'm gonna say we try to avoid doing that. It's even worse when you when you go out of your way to say this then make videos that terribly with terrible arguments then when I talk to some of my friends they're like yeah just watch the movies and we're fine.  That's all right and then they move on with their life like.  I really don't. I could tell you don't care by how much you care. Yeah because I care. So what is the statement. Mr. Films makes that prompted this response. Roll the clip nothing about the plot makes sense. Wait hold on that can't be right. So that is a clip from his review of Teen Titans possibly I can't remember exactly what show is. Let me guess that one didn't have vision in the heart so he didn't like it. Well so that's the thing because high top is ripping into it for its nonsensical plot line. It's like oh wait that's not very consistent. Not very nice of him. You know appreciate in the heart. But yeah I don't care about that movie. I think it's a show right. I don't actually know the show. Yeah yeah yeah. I thought he was pretty good until the finale finale was terrible. It'd be generous to call this a plot. No not that one. Ah here it is. Movies aren't about logic and plot. That's why I almost never talk about those things. They are about emotion. Whoa okay. They're about emotion and feeling. As he shows this. That feels redundant by the way. Yeah the same thing emotion and feeling of the same thing. And well no. I guess I guess you could you could separate them out. You could be like discussing emotions and then discussing the event of feeling for yourself. Definitely related. But it feels like you when writing that you'd want to make sure you explain maybe use words that better represent the distinction you're making between these two topics. Because emotion and feeling. This is classic high talk where he's very specific and he wants to cover all of his bases and he really wants to make for a solid airtight argument. So I can I can appreciate that level of semi redundancy but clarification all the same. This is his short film The Jam Salesman. The Jam Salesman. The horror. Yeah. Oh man. They are never entirely about the logic. They are never entirely about the plot. Those two things are.  They are needed to support that reaction to support the characters. So don't you feel like he just destroyed his his entire position by accident there. Uh-huh. Just said that we like it's not about the plot. The plot is there to support the emotional reaction. Hmm. Uh-huh. No. They are not what art is about. No one is saying that movies are only about logic and plots. Everyone wants to experience the intended emotional take away in movies. Yeah.  It's like you do get the we're chasing the high. Everyone wants to yeah we enjoy movies.  But my brain yeah but I'm not a seven year old and I know when I'm being fooled and I don't want to be fooled.  All right. I know I'm being tricked. Yeah. I know I'm being tricked. It's cheap.  But instead of just being like but it wasn't rape. You're like but you showed rape. But yeah exactly you showed the thing. My brain and I reconcile these two things. But yeah they're not exclusive. You can have both. Absolutely. Well so this is the problem. They for some reason believe that if you put logic in the heart goes out. It's like right. So what about Empire Strikes Back? Maybe High Top's hot take is that that film is full of plot holes. The silence. I mean who knows. It's got the logic of it. It's got the logic of the film you know based around the universe it's got the emotion. Resonating through multiple different characters. I feel like the different character development. Like the best movies have that they give you the huge emotional payoffs and they worked really hard to have a plot line that earns them and character motivations and values and all that. But for some reason they're getting dichotomized. Another great one Ghostbusters is another great one. That's a comedy. People pretend as if I don't know how this happened or where it got started. Maybe it's always been a thing. It's probably always been a thing where people assume that brains don't we we they're just information absorbing machines. We have to see things and hear things and experience things in order to react to them. We have to see stuff and we have to connect dots with what we're shown either visually or in another way. That's how we experience our emotions. Yeah. Yeah but you do have the suspension of disbelief which can come into play. Well as you said about the whole I don't want to be going to try and trick me and stuff when we see miniatures it's like we're hoping that they're of higher quality enough that we can be tricked which like that does the kind of real actually I can enjoy that instead of so be like it's not rave on Twitter. There's the good lie and then there's the bad lie where the good the miniatures are the good lie. This isn't really a ship. It's a miniature.  That's the bad lie where we are we are legitimately and earnestly asserting that the thing you just saw definitely wasn't the thing that you just saw but we saw it but we did see it because that's what you showed us and that's your fault for showing us that if you didn't want us to think it was that thing don't show us that thing. That's your fault.  It's an elephant and it's not a truck. Oh it's not a parakeet. It's a flash truck. Well someone said what's running in the background. It's my fan okay but it's really hot in Britain right now or at least stuff. Oh my gosh. Is it like take some of 20 degrees like rainstorm here. Yeah the comment wasn't worth the conversion in my head. It's fine. I want I want my old level of hotness. Of course it is. I'm British is it somewhat warm. Yeah it's somewhat uncomfortable. It's less moist today which is upsetting. I require my moistness. Less moist. Yeah. The moisture makes the heat worse. Well if it's really like rainy and moist I'll take it over over like this this it's a different. I don't know how to explain it. I am not a weatherman. I but it's stuffy it's stuffy. It's stuffy. Yeah it's not this is like this is a lot of air.  So you feel like there's too much like you have like you're being suffocated almost by the by the air. It's just there's so much of it.  Escort the air outside.  See that kind of nails the feeling. Yeah set it yourself. Plot and logic are used to give you a feeling and support the reaction. So if the plot is contradictive convoluted fractures world-building and unethical that our people use their brain supposed great. You did show great. The great vocal positive reaction great. Don't say logic and plots aren't that important feelings are and then say logic and plot are also the foundation for feelings that makes no sense. What does this remind me of your kind of watching movies wrong now let's apply. I should just a beabree cab. Well, I get the impression this person probably either watches both drinker in eFap or at least has seen both of them in some way because it is hard to disassociate Tyrion's vomit from drinkers videos at this point for me. I've seen it so much. Yeah. Yeah. Same chicken plot. Those two things are used to give you a feeling to evoke a reaction from you. They are needed to support that reaction to the movie and his video director Patty Jenkins said this Diana. She doesn't punch people in the face. That's not the most effective way to stop. God I remember this. That is just so that in isolation. What a quote. Yeah. That punching someone in the face is not the most effective way to stop something something from happening. This applies. Good way to stop rape. It's good.    So like why would you say it doesn't stop? It's not the most effective. Thanks for the commentary on every really super strong and rarely engage in combat. You're right. Anyone ever seen Spider-Man punch a person. Because I certainly haven't Batman doesn't punch people either. No Batman. Sit down and talk to them. Superman comes in he goes. Hey, stop it. You stop it. Let's let him rest.  Yeah. Nice. Stop it. Stop it. Come on. I'm doing that. Stop that. Not super at all. Fuck. I can't believe you've done this. So typically people will cite other movies where she's punched the show. People is like you don't even have to look at what she's doing. Do you really think this is like this is the way to do it? She's not punching anyone. Okay. She's not punching. Yeah. It's just destroys the whole part of people are in old trunk. She crushes the kids when she rolls with them. That's not punching and that's crushing the kid in a world where bullets and on trial. It's not a punch. Not a punch. Don't count. Not a punch. No punch. Yep. Legs. Legs don't. It's legs. No arms. Let's kick the kick. Oh, jeez. Okay. Well, it doesn't. It's not a punch.  It's fine when they're evil. She's electric. Electricity's not a punch. Electricity's not a punch. Also, it's not effective against Diana. She's a rock. What one is rock type or a ground type Pokemon? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Physical attacks. So yeah, you don't want to. You gotta use psychic or water magic attacks. Oh, she's in water. So she needs water. Oh, my goodness gracious. Wow. Oh, my God. She's getting water. Let's get somebody and getting no blowback herself. Well, so I guess Diana's not affected by electricity and water. Yeah. She's just that good. Damn. Rudon being like he would die when when like Mudkip fired water at him. So I don't know. I feel like this. This is contradicting Pokemon lore. Yeah. Well, another way how Wonder Woman 84 fails. Let's be honest. Yeah. That's not how electricity works. I like the idea though that Wonder Woman is like I am strangling someone while holding them underwater and getting them electrocuted and being electrocuted. But thank God I'm not punching them. Yeah, just like it meant so much better than punching. It's so effective. Oh, God, you wouldn't want to punch him. That's that's cruelty right there. That's rude. They're not conscious. Yeah. Not how heroes do it. She's not that kind of person. You're right. I've always Diana has always struck me as really clever and intelligent. She would never just fuggishly punch somebody. Okay. And Marley speaking, you shouldn't just punch people electrocute them. Okay. That's the way to go. Yeah. Rape him. Go all the way. I agree. Rape them and electrocute them. You know what? Don't punch them. Rape them. Electrocute them and rape them. Don't punch them. That is the progressive way forward. The same time if you can. That's what they know. Half measures. So a funny tidbit about this particular part, right? This is Hytops video where he's basically advocating that she does not punch people and she's like too good for punching people. Southpaw cut that alongside her punching people to death in the Snyder cut. And you uploaded it Twitter. Very funny. We're all like, haha. Very funny. Good stuff. Haha. He got quote tweeted by a lot of people who were pissed at him for making this comparison, including Hytop who was like, I did not make this. He made that. I did not say it because people started to think that Hytop made a video criticizing the Snyder cut by comparing it to Patty Jenkins's comments. He was upset that people might assume that he was pointing out the. Yes. He was upset that people thought that he was pointing out the contradiction. Yeah, that is the. That's how furious he was. It was hilarious because then people, if you remember, they rolled out an argument that was the movies don't share continuity, even though they absolutely to or at least was supposed well to the point where they said not even like Man of Steel BVS Snyder cut share continuity. They're all separate sort of thing. They exist separate.  And then of course the argument came in that she literally electrocutes people and rapes them in the Humber own movie. So we don't even need to reference outside of it. She was one person. The other she was a number of rapes. Zero. The woman number of rapes. One. Oh, that just to sleep. Me too would have been awkward when it's like, what are you guys been up to? She's like. Well, if you believe Twitter, how many bats it takes to give me a hand job. This is Steve. I'm not Steve.    Right? In a video game. Oh, yeah. And this is Minecraft jump into lava in Minecraft. Somebody somebody's actually been very astute. They said one rape that we know of. Oh, no, very true. I don't know how many she doesn't even recognize that it is rape. So who knows how many accidental rapes she's committed. You kind of look like scrap kisses without. Oh, man. This is a this is a sex offender right here. The beyond. Um, but you sort of came out of the register, wouldn't she? It is a fundamental, though, by the way, that people on like Twitter believed this was a good argument.   That's going too far. You shouldn't be taking high tops perspective on one thing and contrasting it and how wrong he is because of evidence and another thing.  One, the one she's too good for punching, but not for raping. You're good for punching. Not for munchin. Also, someone was like, there's a high top in chat. I'm pretty sure high top is not in chat. So just check your profile if you can. It's not going to be him. You know what? If you feel like it's high top. Maybe it's true. Maybe it's true. Okay. Pretend it is high top. Does he have the heart of high top? That's the important one. The passion and morality. And I think that's why so many people gravitated towards her first. It was a good scene. No, people are very easily fooled by really bad movies. That's why people thought the first one was great. I just want to make sure it was terrible. The scene, the scene was that was a good scene. Yeah, so no one's on the scene. No, it was terrible. It was awful. It's full of problems. There's a lot of plot issues. She survives because of plot armor. It was terrible. And I'm not a fan of this. That's what's the worst. She survives because of her armor, not plot armor. No, she's just not shot anywhere that her shield isn't because of plot armor. She has no business surviving that scene at all. It makes no sense whatsoever.  We can't just like end wars by having plot armor and running across the field and she's not a real human being. Well, so that's the problem. She's like, why aren't you guys getting over there and saving the people who are stuck in that village? And they're like, this is no man's land.  And it's just like, if you're not going to do it, I will.  Yeah, she's naive for sure. But I did enjoy that. I did think it was a good thing. It's presented as like a good point that she made. Like I'm going to go save the people as if like the people who fought in that war weren't trying to stop it. It's a little bit like, yeah, I hear, I hear what you're saying. Obviously, you know, maybe Paddy should have decided to look at how many people died when they went over the top in World War One, or maybe research the fact that the general's plan was we have more men than they have bullets, which was actually the one of the leading forces in World War One is they would run out of bullets before we'd run out of men. But just as a way to establish her pushing as a hero in her heroic nature. Yeah, she's naive. She's naive and she doesn't get why they don't have to. She didn't have to worry about these things. Yeah, but she's proven right.  It's like, oh, no, look, she was right because she did it. Isn't that explicably? She did just out of curiosity as how do you feel about the fact that she stumbled across Steve? He convinced her that the bad guys on the German team and that she'll work with the allies to destroy the Germans and get to him when... Oh, but he looked chunky with his top off. Of course, but it could just as easily have been the reverse. And so when you watch her destroying the young German conscripts in the middle of this war, do you not feel at all uncomfortable with the fact that like a superhero is just like, hey, who's the bad guy? And then one guy just goes, oh, them. And she goes, okay, wee. There's a little bit more context though, because obviously the Germans come through to Themyscira and they start shooting at the the Amazons and Amazons do die, et cetera. So she does have a better understanding of... Had a German... Their motivation. Well, had a German...  Yeah, baby. No men, even better. More choice for us. And then gone, hey, look, peace. We're searching for a fugitive who's come through. There's a war going on behind there. He's a nasty man. So there's ways that they could have done it. For more context though, she makes a decision based on Ludendorff, not on the Germans attacking them. She actually thinks she's going to release the Germans from the war God's grip if she does this. Everyone, everyone, not just the Germans. But she's told that Ludendorff is the problem by Steve. Is it Steve that believes? I thought she would just made an assumption. Well, I mean, isn't that still a problem?  She thinks he's... Yeah, but she fucks up. I pulled up the scene. The Amazon shoot the Germans first or like the Germans.  I still think that scene is bizarre. Like, it's just, it's just crazy. Well, it portrays the Germans as like this weird cartoonishly evil people. Even though this is World War One. This is the World War One. Yeah, I think, I think they forgot this isn't like, I would still have problems with it in World War Two, but I think they forgot which World War this was. Yeah.   Kill them. They're like, wait, what? Why? What are we doing? Yeah. That's a bad act. But again, with things like that, when it when it comes to stuff like this, you, you know, we know that the Germans were the bad guys. No, we don't. Or at least from our perspective in World War One. No, I don't agree with that. I think that it's not clear who the bad guys were in World War One. I think World War One is way more complicated. I'm scared. And I think that was awesome. Yeah. But that was Austria, Hungary. Yeah, that was Austria and Hungary and the Austrian Hungary Alliance had obviously huge links to the Germans. Yeah. But it was all like entanglements.  And like all of them had. Essentially how World War Two grew. Yeah. But like with World War Two, like started with a false flag operation that they used to invade Poland and then they started like system that like it's not World War One was caused by this weird entanglement of alliances and like World War and World War One was complicated. World War two. Well, well, yeah, I whole point is that if if if like a German spy plane had landed in that place and then Americans came in through a rowboat, the whole story would have been backwards because Wonder Woman had no reason to believe that like we have she was told any more evil than the Americans or the British. She was all the higher up in the British Empire. Need to be killed. They were our enemies in as much as from our sides perspective. This was our enemy. But so from Steve sides, you know, he's the one who doesn't show aggression towards them. He's the one who lets them bathe him. The Germans are the ones that come through and they are the ones that open fire. But that's not reasoning though. We have a we have a yeah. We have a very loose morality system there, but it's in a very loose way. We're showing good guy versus bad guy. But you know, I don't think you want to stop in the middle of the world is like doing the assassination of Franz Ferdinand to clarify. I'm fine with them pushing back on the Germans after they start shooting. That's totally what I'm saying is that she's told that the current events of the world and she's like, right. So I need to kill Ludendorff and to do that I'm going to smash through many young German conscripts when she could just as easily have been doing the reverse because the she's that's how naive she is. It feels really awkward to watch a super powered being just slaughtering young people who have been pushed into a wall. They don't even understand and she has no idea why she's even really doing it beyond. I'm pretty sure that's the God of War up there. It's like especially because what about the God of War doing this Captain America the first Avenger. Well, so what so he understands the war fully. Yeah. And also like and he's super powered and he's and he's taking lives of. Yeah, that's his choice to make. She decided she's got bad information like severely and is based on the luck of having met an American before a German. Also different. Yeah, he's not a non aggressive or what he was incapacitated to be honest with but she got an incapacitated out saved him was just like oh he's got a penis. He didn't come across as aggressive and then the Germans came through and they were aggressive. Yeah, but that's that's kind of the point right is that had it gone the other way around we'd be watching a movie where triumphant music was playing as Wonder Woman killed a bunch of British. Didn't the fact is it didn't sell. No, but that's the issue. It didn't her character. The issue is that her character would have done either way. Yeah, boogie's bullet did what happened to fall on anybody. No. Now it's not a problem to come through and if Steve was I'm not losing anything. This is just this is an interesting debate. This is this is why we have these debates. Absolutely. Come on about winning and losing. It's about debating these things. Now if Steve had come through and let's say he was conscious and was aggressive towards Diana and then was knocked out then it could have easily have changed their perception of when the Germans came through to see how they would react.  But even if they were British that came through I imagine the Amazons would have reacted exactly the same. It was against man. Nevermind where the country was. So let's say the British came through. I still imagines that the imagine that the Amazons would have gone down to the beach Bose drawn. Well, yeah, we agreed. We're saying that. So a German plane crash crashes.  They're making the war happen. You've got to stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then one woman's like right time to kill some British consequence on the coast of Britain. Yeah, depending if she she fancied the German guy like she fancied. Yeah, but if it was a let's say he's a hot German guy. Yeah, he's going to be there. Yeah, well, wasn't there also the the aspect of them sensing Aries sensing Aries at work regardless. Well, she kind of areas would be behind everything. I was going to say she was behind one side. She was mistaken, of course. So she could have sensed anything behind any but I'm pretty sure it's just the description of they plan to like, you know, win the war like in a definitive sense, hopefully, which is the the goal of either side. I would imagine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, in her but her goal was to to stop areas. Yeah, she thinks that war ends when you kill Aries, which, by the way, it does. Yeah.  They literally have German and I guess British soldiers like hand in hand at the end. Like they got like their arms on their shoulder sort of thing like, Yeah, we did it. Aries. How do we explain World War Two? We put you do. Aries or somehow Aries returns because ultimately Aries was in the British government. Yeah, he was.  No, well, that's kind of the point, right?  She has no idea what's happening. This is just a very strong person imposing her will on the world in the middle of a war. Hmm. Meanwhile, Steve is like he signed up. He's like official and a lot of the missions he's doing is trying to rescue people. Rescuing soldiers, stopping. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. I want to end like all of the countries like they want to drop bombs on Moscow, Berlin, London and yeah, the hydras its own team sort of thing. Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't the fact that we Diana didn't know she was tricked. This is the whole point. She was tricked by airy. She believes she knew exactly who was the instigator of it all.  Well, she doesn't feel bad about it. She keeps doing it when she fights airy.  Yeah, she had to raise the kills. Yeah. And also it's not she's not tricked by airies. She just assumes that airies is Ludendorff. She just jumps to that. Even though David Thulis is how airies looks and she sees a guy who looks just like David Thulis in Britain. You know, I feel like that's a better connection. Yeah. Didn't even write them. Didn't even write. Oh, did she? Oh, we know of only one. It's God of War is a nice apartment. Yeah, I don't know if I don't even know if I has nose, but we don't we don't like one to woman here. I'm afraid of the first one. It's really really sexist here. And we went in. I actually introduced it as the one that was probably going to be the best that we were going to enjoy. I was wrong. Quite a bit. I'd forgotten a lot of how the movie progresses and stuff. But I mean, Steve is like the Steve Trevor is. I think we agree. He's like the best thing about the movie. Strong point. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. But he's got a he's got a very strong personality and yeah, Chris Pines a good actor. He's got a personality and Wonder Woman doesn't really have one in Gal Gadotza. Horrifically bad actress. Yeah, but she looks gorgeous.  Hey, she's smoking. Gee. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, both but and that forgives the monk you to see. Well, I guess it gets super awkward though, because then you have someone like Elizabeth Olson, who is also very beautiful, but like actually talented. So, you know, it's not like. Well, they can both be psychopaths. Luckily they are. We did it. But Elizabeth Olson is because she's a better actress. She can more convincingly portray. More convincingly portray the psychopath. You're completely correct. Yes. Hey, he's bringing some people can do it naturally. Yeah. Yeah. Don't even try. Have some respect for the craft of psychopathy. Oh, psychopathy. And you know what? Anyway, let's let us get back to the wonder's will to back to high top. We're giving him the Greedo treatment. We've got to stay focused here. I like how she leaves the guy in that alley. Oh my goodness. This by the way, I'm assuming is to just contrast with the whole she's not the kind of person to punch a person. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of kicking there. Lot of a lot of kicking. And if you punch with a shield, is it really a punch? If you throw a table to somebody, does that count as a punch? I think it's just a punch with your foot. Hmm. We'll have to see what science has to say about that shield at somebody. There's a tree fall over in Brazil. These are the questions we can't answer. Okay. We're not powerful enough. If Wonder Woman punches a German, does a tree fall in Brazil? Find out next. In Argentina. Does a butterfly get its wings?   Ah, look, she's killing him. Oh my God. What? I have not been trained for how to react to this. Please don't kill me. I don't even know you. I just know out of my dad. I just wanted to go back to my family in Hamburg. No. I just want to go back to my school and teach geography. My mama is waiting for me. They have like, oh my God, look, she beats them all. They win. They're cheering. Everyone's like, yeah, we did it. There's just one German guy in the corner covered in like blood of his friends shivering like, please, please, please, please don't go home. I just want to go home. I love Betty Gerbers. God, that guy. Oh, damn. K.O. That is definitely a K.O.  The baby sent from the- No, I didn't. No. I normally- They work to his- Normally, I would say that we could respond to this, but I was going to say that Madvika does a response to this is probably going to be like- Okay, right. I forget. I hear high tops this thing. I hear his voice. And my brain wants to just pounce. Absolutely.  Planet. These are false equivalencies. The spider bites someone, that person gets super strength, agility, heightened senses, sticky fingers and the ability to shoot webs out of their wrists, depending on the adaptation. That's it. Then the spider either disappears or dies and the movies stick to those powers. The baby sent from Krypton? How can that be remotely compared? A distant planet inhabited by a different species is on the brink of destruction and the baby is sent off in a capsule to keep him safe. Well, why would anybody hate that? We don't hate the magic rock because it grants wishes upon touching it. We can buy that with no problem.  It's unusual. Wishes have been part of popular culture and media and fairy tales since time immemorial. I mean, then in and of itself, the wishes aren't the problem. This is why wishes are developed to have rules and limitations and unforeseen side effects and consequences. And they're often used as cautionary tales. Wishes were fine with wishes. Wishes are D&D. We get them. We like how they're implemented and how they're executed. I like wishes. Wish Wonder Woman didn't rape anyone. Yeah. They're asking a bit much though. I wish I wish she didn't rape me. I like it because it's rules are contradictory and it seemingly has no. Yeah, it's the rule that the, you know, you can understand if it like you wish on this rock, you'll get what you want. But something's going to happen. Yeah. There's going to be an exchange to get it. But when he just says, I want to be you. So the rock becomes him. He just like. I think the rock understands people's intentions when they make wishes. I think that's fairly consistent. That's going to help you out quite a bit when you're you're going to be writing something like this. And I think it's I think that's great. It's going to it's going to make things much more straightforward.  That's that's the thing. That's that's the odd one out. That's the no, it's nice. It's the other woman's wish that makes no sense because she says I wish I was like Diana. Not Wonder Woman. She has no concept of Wonder Woman or Diana being Wonder Woman. She says I wish I was like Diana strong. You're right. Yeah. Well, so this is what we're talking about. Yeah. So if you go more, she's going to just be like, yeah, this film's bad. I gave it too much credit for a split second. I got I watched myself for just a split second. I let like guard down. Maybe this film wasn't utter shite. If you consider all of the wish results, you get the literal interpretation and thus whatever bad things come with that the rocks the dealer's choice. The rock makes up whatever it wants in terms of what you just said or the exact interpretation of what the person wanted. Yeah.  Yeah, that's that year. What a prick rock. You gave that one guy with you. Come on. You know what I meant.   At least all being in space. I suppose that would kill you to that as well. To bring someone from the dead, it has to take over a random living person's body. Hey, they see you looking in the mirror. He sounds like just materialized. Oh, that's what my confusion was. I think that when I first watched the movie, my confusion came from in the mirror. I thought that that was a reflection of his quote unquote true body where so everybody else saw him as everyone saw him as Steve, but he was really that person who was inside the handsome guy inside, but he just became a part of the world and everyone accepted it. That was what my confusion was.  That's not possible for a car or if the car Oh, it rose. Okay, all come. Yeah, don't ask what replaced the empty space that's now beneath it. Don't think about it. The rocks came up from the. Yeah, okay. And there was a car over it at the time, which I think is a nifty little detail. You know, someone's trapped for some reason. My brain read it as there was a car in the background driving through and that they accidentally. No, it has to take over a random living person's body and replace their soul, but later it just materializes things into existence. Someone can just become the rock. It doesn't have to be touch to grant wishes anymore. You can just look at the rock on a screen. Yes, I know there's an explanation for this, but the president says it's just a figure of speech. So Max isn't actually making any sort of physical contact with anyone. Wait. Now you don't even have to look at it anymore. When you lack to find rules or change them along the way to fit your plot, your investment and believability takes a hit because if anything can just happen out of nowhere, then what are the stakes anymore?  Well, particularly at the end when we know the way to change everything's just go. Oh, I just renounce my wish. Yeah, that's as easy as that. Everything goes back to normal. It's like why I don't even. Hmm. Okay. I guess the normal normal because of this universe. Petra Pascal still has an Asian child for some reason. Well, it's an Asian woman. Yeah. But that's never shown. Nothing. None of it is explained. No, I think that's a pretty reasonable inference that if you're a kid, you should have been adopted. It could have been, you know, they just wanted to just wanted to have diversity kid in for some reason. I don't care about having an agent. I actually liked that kid.  Do they? I don't think I ever do. So we understand otherwise. Because of his pursuit of, you know, fame and power. Yeah, I think I'd have to watch it again.  I'm assuming that's just but he's but the kid's still there. The kid still turns up. So he's got to get from A to B somehow. The kid. Yeah, he's his son. His son doesn't live. Oh, yeah.  Yeah.  Wait, so you you said you'd be much happier if the wife dropped him off. She was Asian. Yeah, yeah, at least just to be at least just to give a thread because it's just a bit jarring.  But it don't don't just think it's weird. No, no, I don't know what the weird part is. I'm very lost. I just don't have any information. It's it's it's when you're in it, right? Okay. Would look with healing in this of this weird superhero world that's a pseudo 80s that isn't the 80s at all because it's 84 and half the stuff in it and it came after 84, but never mind. Don't worry about stuff like the video games and all that sort of banana stuff. Then we have a monkey poor type of crystal, which is giving wishes off and we don't understand the concept of the wishes because they seem to alternate per person. So there's no benchmark for us to to to establish what the rules of that is. We've got a Steve Trevor walking around in a different man's body as Steve Trevor and we've got people confused as to whether they can see Steve Trevor or whether you can see handsome man and then we've got this Petro Pascal's kid just turns up and it's just an Asian kid. It's just like can you just least show some threads to connect? I guess the problem is that like to me this is kind of like baffling because yeah, I don't get it.  Do you know that? You don't know that. Well, but it wouldn't matter. You know what? I don't know what I don't know. I don't know that, but I have an extremely high level of justifiable confidence that that is the case. Yeah, yeah. Well, to make sure, right? I'm just saying it's weird and it's weird and it's and it's just should be. I don't know that's how people work though. It's on too many levels for me. I mean, America is a good old melting pot, right? Like it's not going to be unusual. I don't know. I can at least understand that you're saying there's a moment there where you might assume is the film trying to tell me something that's not it's not exactly the same skin color as Pedro Pascal. Therefore, something else may have happened, but I mean, I don't think it's much confusion to just be like I was an Asian wife or adoption either one. Well, I mean, it's well, yeah, exactly. Because like if ever, if ever you just see a kid and like they look a little bit different from their parent, two assumptions is the other parent is a different race or alternatively that they were adopted. It's like neither of all totally like that. They're completely scans for me. I just think I think it's weird. I just think it's a weird thing to do without explanation. I mean, I don't think you have to explain in a movie that if people from two different races have a kid, the kid will be mixed. It will be mixed. Yeah. Don't you feel like you wouldn't want it to be that way? Like you wouldn't want them to overtly be like the reason he's not the same skin color as I is my wife here is I just like I like just a bit of continuity. That's all I like. I like a bit of continuity. How is this a break in continuity? I'm not I'm not saying it ruins the film. I'm not a significant brain in film and I think the whole thing's so weird. The film anyway in itself is so inconsistent and weird that it just would have been nice to have just to you know, just have the wife dropping. So the ex-wife just have the ex-wife or the ex-girlfriend whichever relationship was just dropping them off or at least some sort of explanation that just makes you go why's he just why's he's got an Asian kid now? He's always an Asian kid. Yeah. Or at least in this. Or why is he getting whatever? Okay. Well, I guess I guess for me it would be the fundamental of like I don't need an explanation for why somebody is like the race that they are because you Yeah, I don't need to see the conception to fill in the works. I could understand. I'm not asking for the conception. I'm just asking for some some logic in the film because the film is so devoid of logic. I just want some logical threads to go through it. But why is it illogical that his kid looks the way he does? I don't know but you don't know but you see you know because you're now you are making the logical assumption. You're making your assumption. Yes, you're making the assumption. You're not you're not working off what the film has provided for you. Correct. Yes, but the thing is when say for example, Max is the montage of him talking to Wonder Woman and then he enters his building, would you understand if I said I need to see him driving in order to see him get to these two places to use that example. No, I've been a complete completely different things. Completely different things. They're exactly the same. But well, why? Why do you think the the meaningfully different? Because his Max is an adult and we've it's normal to assume that he can drive a car. It's it's it's all right. I mean disagree. Fine. You know you don't have to. I'm not asking for an agreement here. You find Asian women hot right really silly in a film that's devoid of logic that doesn't make a lot of sense any way through the film that you just keep putting these silly these why would class is silly little things for with no explanation given. We're like most. So well and it's on too many levels because you know the woman has to be like Diana but then she becomes like Wonder Woman and then it just makes you want to beat up men that hit on her. You know it's all these weird things. It's just don't make a logical sense. I want all your oil. Oh, I'll take your security guards instead for oil. Now here's a wall that's the things that they're asking for don't make any logical sense. Yeah, I mean I would I would agree with all that but like I didn't need to be honest. I didn't even realize that the kid wasn't of the same ethnicity as Pedro Pascal like I didn't. I never even thought about it. Well, could I? I was talking about the Asian kid. I had no idea what you were talking about. Well, one of my compliments to the film is actually their relationship. I enjoyed it. I like yeah. I feel like I still this this tells you something. I still remember that he was encouraging the kid to make a wish for themselves and they made a wish for the dad's life to be better and even Pedro Pascal goes no, no, no, no, no, no. Like when because he's asking the kid to do what in his heart he wants. I remember finding that quite meaningful that a child would automatically try and look out for their parent and it's like when when you when you Pedro wanted him to be more selfish. It's like I like that payoff quite a bit. Um, I yeah, I I didn't really care like what I've nested that the child is. I was more concerned about what we know how we and he got blown up out of real portion. So anyway, all right back to high top even though let's see what he says next. Then what are the stakes anymore? If we can buy the lasso of truth. We can buy this. Oh boy. The last of truth is his own problems. Lasso of truth in this movie. Actually, you know what? I'll let him I'll let him say it. This movie is what made me not buy the lasso anymore. It can wrap around lightning bolts. It can catch bullets. It can propel Diana off of air. There's the scene where she lets go of Steve Trevor and lasso is a clock tower that's way off in the distance and then does the same thing with a plane that's miles away. Then there's the absolute. You wonder if she could last out of the mood. Yeah, I mean tell me that.  Like the strongest. She are just the sudden yank of Wonder Woman. Yeah, this is crashes. Esther of a climax which I shall get to later but this thing has zero limits and it's a problem. Remember when Spider-Man's web couldn't reach the crane and he needed help or when he had to run to his destination because there were no buildings. Well if he had webs of truth then maybe he would have made it. Webs of truth. If only there was a handy aeroplane. If only. And that focus on love that focus on empathy that defined the first film. Yeah. Empathy on these poor German guns scripts. These these geography teachers and cobblers who've been put to the terrible situation. Defines my favorite elements of this one. It isn't very empathetic of Wonder Woman to be completely okay.  While it's on my mind as I need your opinion. Yeah. What do you end of Wonder Woman 84 as what's your opinion on the wink of the camera? What by Linda Carter? No, yes. Well, I assume that she was the woman that they were talking about in the golden armor from earlier. Yeah. What do you think about the wing? Cheers.  They're right.  I don't like Wonder Woman 84 much. I like the I like it. I like the wink. I like the Linda Carter wink. I thought it was great. No, that's okay. Right. It was great. She's not like hey, it's me. I'm Linda Carter. I'm the old super old super Wonder Woman. I'm gonna post a little. You know, here I am. I don't need a camera to understand the post credits. Little post credits like recognition of way out of the other. Yeah. That was great. The right. Eve has heartless. Yes, we are. That's the whole Brad. And I love the chat back.  Not today. Having the strangers dead boyfriend soul could take over his body and then have sex with him. The point is, I don't care about how Steve is back. You don't care about how Steve is back. We care about what him being back means. How are we supposed to care about the mean? She's a rapist. Absolutely back when the way he's back is really messed up until the wishes were announced. He will always be taking over a random human's body. Every time he's on screen is a reminder of this. Like you said, don't make the rock put Steve's soul in the body of some poor schmuck. Just make the rock bring him back to life. But unfortunately, that's not what the movie shows us. Yeah, even High Top is like, they should have done it. The way of bringing him back. Yes, they should have. I'm glad High Top has recognized this. Yeah, I'm glad we all agree. It's this tiny glimmer of hope that I see in him that will ultimately be squashed by this next sentence, but it's nice to see it. It's nice to be reminded of that's to get a little reason that keeps us all going. One more step one day. Also can not simply ignore something so unsettling that was planned and approved to be in the movie without even addressing it in the narrative. The soul swap takes a toll on those scenes that strive for emotional resonance. Guess what? No, what's bad is that the soul swap hurts Steve a whole lot too. It doesn't just hurt Wonder Woman. It hurts Steve. He at least brings it up, I think, right? It doesn't you say? Yeah, it's almost like a but that almost makes it worse that he recognizes it and acknowledges it. So you don't have the excuse of he doesn't even know or register it. He really wanted to do it. Cognitive distance. What hurts is neither of them have a moral core. I mean about the person whose body they're exhibiting they're in mind that she can see it. Because yeah, isn't the reasoning at the end that you need to give up the wish so that you can have your strength back? Not because it's not going to anything to do with handsome guy. Which is it makes no sense that her powers being sapped. No, but it is. And so they decide you got to let me go.  I don't even know if you recognize that. It's fine. It's still move on. It's fine. Nobody would have my boyfriend's the parasite. Tracted or had this criticism if the rock just rematerialized his body like it seemed to do with everything else. I care about the 10 minutes of Steve and Diana flying. Unfortunately, this is another scene that had a rough foundation to set it up. Diana quickly brings up. She might have the power to turn things invisible. There we go. That's okay. I'll just turn the plane invisible. This is the girl.   This is like, oh, okay, which is like it. So it goes to show that the writers knew to have her mentioned that she had some knowledge of this ability beforehand, but they just still did like they had enough presence of mind to have her say that. But then they just like, oh, that's enough. It's amazing. We've done our job here. We've properly explained this. I suppose at least they took the time to do that with the flight thing. She just did it. This is flight. Now none of this and I genuinely mean none of this was ever established or even hinted at. I'm not saying it should be impossible for her to ever use this power, but there is no previous indication she can possibly do this when you conveniently introduce the ability to use a skill that progresses the plot and just toss in a throwaway line. One that isn't even good. It's just really lazy and contrived, especially when you consider how many other times was she aware of this power that she could have used it and she just didn't, especially if her whole attempt is to try and what stay under the radar sort of like she was destroying cameras and stuff. Just turn invisible. You can turn invisible cameras. Um, advocate is in chat. He just said to everyone saying I sound depressed in this video. I had like 50 subs when I made this. Oh, he's come a long way. He's at 24k now. That's great.  That's incredible. That's great. Excellent work, sir. We're all we're two thirds. It won't be a half through. I didn't come in on that. I would have got a shot on for that as well.  You at 50 subs probably sounded depressed. I was like, oh, it's just as from heal this is baby. Hey, if I was talking about what a world craft. Hmm. I still got those on my recommendations every once in a while.  I have no interest whatsoever in World of Warcraft. I don't know. I I have no idea. I guess it's just because it's yours, but I don't get any of your or as much of your recent stuff or whatever reason. YouTube's like, yeah, but like 12 years ago, he did this thing about World of Warcraft. You want to look at that, right? I'm like, it's yeah. He said he said that was a joke.  He's like, no, I thought it was a joke. You're fine. It's a good joke. 50 years only done at once. I don't know. Ladies coffee.  She's talking about right. By the way, if he is, I did it once. I feel like if you learned you had the ability to make objects invisible, you'd be doing that all the time. Yeah, a little bit more.  This is sick. I will. Yeah, I don't know. Damn. Maybe incredible. Table invisible.  Hide my wheels from the car. Yeah, it's great. They can smell it, those dogs, but they can't see it. At least this movie got a throwaway line.  Also turning the jet invisible completely hides it from the radar.  Does this mean invisibility doesn't just physically cloak an object. It also removes it from corporeal existence. Oh, God, let's not. You're giving it you're giving it way much more thought in your YouTube video than the professional writers did. I've seen their millions. I saw someone in a conversation. Could have been one of ours or someone else, but it was saying that like some radars are based on like visibility or something. I don't know enough about radar to be able to counter that, but I was just like, huh? Well, it seemed very counterintuitive to the audience to be like, we're invisible. Radar cannot detect us. Like that doesn't that doesn't track to the audience as far as I'm correct. But yeah, this is probably correct. Like I said, I have to look into how radar works distance to if that's the case, then how can they still sit in the jet without being invisible to the colors explode heart and soul. But the colors explode heart and soul. Do you guys have a thing that would be easy to make a film high top would enjoy?  It'll be fine. Colors. Yeah, blue colors. Me any emotion? Unless I'm intellectually satisfied by how they got here to begin with the colors, the colors, colors, colors, colors, colors. It really matters your ink the stunts or aesthetics or insanity or the showmanship. It's the fact that every single one of these action beats in the movie from start to finish is about saving people. This is a very strange thing to give props for because that can be said for most action scenes in these movies.  Wow, that action scene was all about not helping anybody. It was pretty rare. Not impossible. But the deal is about him helping people. Well, except for that scene in a in Wonder Woman where she killed all those Germans because Steve died. That wasn't about saving anyone. Oh, that was what she was angry. She. Yeah. This funny because you're citing the one person that heights up a movie like that would never happen for Wonder Woman.  I feel like I had seen this all before, but I know he's referencing these two scenes. Both are ridiculous and not in a good way. Diana straight up lasso's max with no problem and then just does nothing and talks to him. What does this reminds me of? How can you possibly get the drop on flash? Yeah. So for reference, one of the things people recommend in Super Chasers is the map get out apparently has a breakdown of the flash. I forget which seasons, but he's got a I think it's like a bit of a long man on how bad the show is. I've not seen flash, but man, am I tired of watching people be faster than flash?  Stop it. Well, that's kind of the awkward thing with flash is usually the I don't know about the show, but in the comics, it's like the big bad is just another flash like reverse flash or Godspeed because that's what a Captain Cold is too. But like, yeah. I like Captain Cold as a villain. I like I like a lot of captains. Yeah, it's not even the army. It's just nice to have a ranking system. So sort of hierarchy them all. Lieutenant Ray. I'm probably the first class sexual assault. Why didn't he just grab the gun though before he stopped the one? There's nowhere to go. The flash is notoriously slow, so you can't really do that. He's not. He's not bright. Wait, just like, oh, fine. God, this is going to be so frustrating to watch. My name is Barry Allen and I am the fastest man alive. Yeah, well, maybe.  You but she doesn't. She lets Max command is meant to shoot at her and then decides to pull him when she's compromised, but it's only to body slam these guys. And then there's the climax the way the sequence of the climax happens should not allow the saving to happen in that scene. The only reason Diana is able to save Max and get everyone in the world to renounce their wish is because she wrapped the lasso of truth around his ankle. How does this happen if the scene establishes that the wind is too strong to do that? Well, I can explain this. It's a sneaky little snack and it wiggles waggles on the floor all the way to his leg. Okay, I would have gone like further down like a stream, right? She she goes further up the stream the wind stream and then she lassos it so it gets pulled maybe towards them. What about if it just connects to him offscreen? That would be easier. Well done it. Nice guys. Yeah, all right. High five. All right. Check hashed. Yeah.  I don't know if this is after she stopped trying. Is it like an anaconda or something? Dude, the lasso is like if you're not going to do it, I guess I will. This lasso really wanted to just go home. Yeah, I guess it's up to me. Like an editing mistake and they left out an entire shot. But this is how the movie is and it's a huge continuity error nonetheless. Watch it again. The lasso is flopping around.  Teleports to his leg at some point after that and before her speech. Don't tell us one thing and show us another. Also, it's even stranger when you see that the lasso is going under the railing implying there's no way Diana whipped it over to him. Maybe it's well. So she she went prone and then she whipped it. Right. Yeah, you got low to the ground. Call it a deal. Wind was less strong there. Lothered on over to Max like a snake again. Help. Yeah, it wasn't something the lasso can do. I should have turned around. That is very sneaky. Hmm. And if only he was facing the right way. So he could have been like, oh, get away from me. Sneaky snack.  You're like, yeah, do you like how the armor bends at the wall? I do. I was about to bring it up. They shouldn't have that. This is supposed to be indestructible. Mega metal armor and it's just clearly bending when she presses it against the wall. Why would you do this? Why have her against the corner that makes her outfit do that? Why film? Why that is quite the bend? That's gone all the way up. I noticed it when we watched the movie, but I guess they didn't notice it when they were making the movie or something.  They were like, why do you even need the gold armor because she renounced her wish and got all the powers back? Anyway, yeah, then she ends up just breaking it. Bitch, like this thing is incredible. This should be in a museum. She's like, nah, remember? This has it. That's the best part. Some people argue it's like it gave it flight. It's like she could fly anyway. Watch the movie. Max not feel the lasso around his leg during her entire speech. When it's been established that the lasso is really hot.  It's really hot. I'm sure you'd love to call these nitpicks, but they are completely consequential to the story. This is what allows her to save the world. You could call that consequential, I guess. A little bit. We also save the universe for considering what the wishes could have been. It's like, I wish for every planet to explode.  Seven billion people making wishes.  I want to get a million. If you think somebody said, I wish that my grand didn't die of cancer. Yeah. Yeah, you need to announce your wish. Bruce Wayne was out there, you know, little Bruce Wayne. I wish my parents were didn't get killed in that alley. Well, then they come back and it's this. That's a Rick and Morty joke right there. They come back and then they talk and it's amazing.  And the corpse is just like, they just appear out of like, they're sitting on the chair, but then they just go, yeah. And he's just like, that's what convinced him to be Batman. Like this Wonder Woman person, she's terrible. I was stopping. They did it in zero hour. His parents, he could see his parents again in zero hour when they did it in the comics. Oh, this isn't a legitimate problem. Then there would be no issue if the climax to end game went like this. Oh, Kang made him do it. I was going to say, there are plenty of problems with that game, but I think he's highlighting a different one here, a potential different one. I'm going to pause for copy flumps. I always feel worried that streaming is a lot harsher than when it's in a video sometimes, you know, inevitable. And yeah, the meme here is going to be that he's just got the stones anyway. Yeah, yeah, my favorite. Hey, man, that'd be pretty, that would be the kind of thing where I think all audiences everywhere would be like, what? What just happened? How did he get the other you get high? So I'd be like, well, it's about the heart. It's not about the plot. Okay. We understand this is supposed to be an emotional moment with a theme. But when the build up to it is already this broken from contradicting itself, the supports for the emotional payoff are going to collapse for a lot of us.  Hey, man, apply. That's the entire MCU. Now, you know, every behind everybody's decisions. This is Kang. Turns out there's always something else. Kang did it. Seeing her character go on a journey to do this. Kang was probably behind movies in general, just stories. I was doing it all. Kang made her rape. It wasn't me. It was just wished away. So you care about logical progression and internal consistency when it comes to character, but claim that doesn't matter when it comes to plot. I am fully behind a more gradual and rational character change because otherwise it becomes character assassination. So I completely agree on that note, but to execute this journey and earn the character change, you need a plot that rationally causes this. You said yourself the rock is what caused her character change, which is plot, but if the logic of the plot doesn't matter, if the inconsistent and lackluster rules of the rock don't matter, then just accept that the rock gave her a change of character, I guess. Yeah, you can make the algorithm back to him every time. It's like, can you focus on the hot of the story? Why you have to be all flimpy about it? Would much rather have seen her character go on a journey, not have it just wished away. I would much rather have seen Steve and Diana go on a journey to escape the authorities, not just turn the jet invisible with an unestablished power. I would much rather have seen her character go on a journey, not have it just wished away. I would much rather have seen Diana go on a journey to the satellite, not just make the length of her lasso limitless, give her the power of flight, and swing from lightning bolts and nothing.  Dude, it's gonna pull people out. You can fly? This is a prequel. Where was the flight? Much rather have seen her character go on a journey, not have it just wished away. I would much rather have seen Diana successfully grab Max's leg with the lasso, not just establish that it's impossible to do it, and then have it teleport to his leg offscreen without him noticing for a couple of minutes. Movies aren't about logic and plot. What is this fear of criticism about the plot in the first place? I assume the main angle they'll have is like, if you focus on the plot, you're missing the point. They often say you're missing the point. No, the point was to create a better, stronger Germany. Exactly. It's just, it is hilarious though, because they'll be so obsessive about this stuff when it's like you are literally trying to translate to them why you didn't get the same feels. Yeah, I need you to understand why... Film analysis should explore the execution in its entirety, not just the spoon-fed themes and drama. I know Hytop says his video is just his emotional response, but then he states, Movies aren't about logic and plot.  I doubt anyone loves it more than I do, but I absolutely welcome any criticism towards the plot or internal inconsistencies. In fact, I challenge it. That way, if there is mostly an absence of writing problems, I can appreciate and love the show even more for being so careful with its details. If the opposite is proven, I can still love the show while acknowledging that it isn't as tight as I thought it was. If I see there's a 10-hour critique of my sacred cow, I would think, huh, I wonder what they have to say. No, you shouldn't think that. You should think. Long man bad. Get rid of them. Long man bad. They're destroying everything.  And actually watch it, because I'm not a pussy. Movies aren't just about logic and plot, but cause and effect incites emotion. When you thoroughly break down why you had a certain reaction or feeling to a movie, it will always stem back to plot. Everything, including character elements, relies on plot and logic. And when something doesn't make logical sense, that isn't in respect to our world or our choices, it's within the context of the movie. And that is the truth. That is the only truth, and truth is all there is.  By the way, that theme, like, what a horrifically badly established and supported theme. Yeah. Like, thematically, Wonder Woman 84 is a mess as well. Well, a lot of them are thematically as well.   Why would... No. Truth is all there is, and truth is beautiful. You're like, truth is not always beautiful, my dude. No. That's why we call it the ugly truth. Yes. Say hello to the starving kid in Africa. Your truth is beautiful. Oh, here we go. Oof. This should have remained in the drafts when your rape is subjective. We got it. Super rape is subjective. Oh. It is subjective. And so there it is. That sounds like someone... That sounds like someone up in court, sunshine. Yeah, I was about to say, that sounds like something someone in court would say when they're about to be convicted of rape. Can you please consider where my heart was? Right before they're found guilty of rape, they say, rape is subjective. I just pretended it wasn't rape and think about it again. Consider where my heart was. That's all I want. Let's do this trial again.  Exactly. Oh, that was the next argument. And so, yeah, so that video was made by Madvocat. There's a link in the description to his channel as well as that video. Good stuff. Very good. Yeah, I think it's well edited, well scripted. Plenty of interesting points. I'm totally fine with the tone of delivery, by the way. I know a lot of people are like, ah, it's been monotone. It's like, yeah, well, I mean, these are all styles. Like, YMS is probably the most well-known, most popular person who delivers a lot of things in the sort of same tone. I don't know if this is something that he's maintained or not, but yeah, worth checking out, I think. Give it the old shot. I think you might still be in chat. I'm not 100% sure, but I enjoyed it. And it's fun to see other people doing responses to that particular video, because that's probably High Top's worst video. I'm not sure if there isn't. This is one that beats it. That one is pretty bad. Let's talk about the lack of Asian boy talk. But apart from that, yeah. Yeah, how did High Top move past that issue? It's amazing. Because it made him feel great. Made him all gooey inside. So, at least it didn't make the Asian boy gooey inside. Now that we've gotten our intro sorted, I can ask a question, right? So, we're about to go down a different path now. That was like Section A of this eFap. Okay, welcome to Section B. Did you feel we kind of did or did not steal that video and use it for entertainment on our own stream? I feel like we added enough to it. I feel like we used it as a great discussion starter and we used it to talk about all kinds of things and we agreed with his point, got him some exposure. We hopefully helped him out get more views and stuff. And we show how much we appreciate the arguments he made. Some people already know. Some people in chat already know exactly where I'll be going with this, but we're on a journey, okay? Everyone knows things but me. So, yeah, so my argument would be it's a spotlight for creator to try and send people their way. I've done my best to try and with you guys show what their strengths are and then why we found it engaging as well as trying to pinpoint actually things that they did well as well as boost off of points in terms of being like, you know, that's a good point, expand and then a few tangents here and our coverage of the video was an hour and a half, I think. Wow. It's a 16 minute video. So, total coverage do you think? Basically theft. If someone was going to have a ratio, I feel like we would have satisfied the ratio. That would be my guess. Yeah, I think so. And so, we're going to go on a little bit of a different journey now. I feel really this is going to be really hard to segue because this is a completely different mode that we're going to be on now instead of the one we were just on. That is it for that section, okay? So, you guys may have heard there's a little controversy in relation to covering other content creators content. They can be different, different eras of time and different. For the most part, I like to think we've kind of grown out of that as years have gone on. Oh, doesn't feel like it used to be like. Wish you were right, Rags. I know it happens, but I feel like it used to be more commonplace that that would be a thing. Well, that people would take an issue with. Why don't we start nearer to where that sort of came to a head? I'm just going to play a minute of... So, I don't know whether to explain the actual context of this thing happening or just show the video first. They basically like... So, so many people know where I'm going with this, but we're doing this for people who have no context, okay? So, anyone who jumps to the payoffs like, chill out, we'll be fine. So, anybody here here have a channel called Jack's Films? Yes. Yeah, yeah, that sounds familiar. I'm not overly familiar. I just know, well, I know. I know the name. Chunks about this because of the fact that this thing happened, but he has a series called Your Grammar Sucks. It's like, I think it's songs he makes. The lyrics are made from bad comments online, meaning like bad mistakes in spelling or grammar. Usually pretty fun. So, and play a little bit of this one. So, you guys get an idea of what kind of video it is. Your Grammar Sucks number 99. That's almost 100. No, really. That's almost 100. Better make it good. So, you get the idea. Yeah, I get the idea. I think it's from one of those. It's pretty neat. There's some, a commonality I think with a lot of them is people will spell rapping as raping. And so it makes for very, lots of really funny examples of just, and yeah, so the way it would work is you'd see these and then wherever you are on the internet, if you spot one of these, you'd send them to him and then you compile them and make a song. Pretty neat. That's a good idea. I like it.  And again, if anyone who's listening is interested in actually finding these videos as Your Grammar Sucks then it's by Jack's Films. Now, once upon a time, and I forget when this all happened, but do you guys know of a channel called, I think it was Jinx Reacts? No. Yeah, I do remember. You'll know what's about to happen next then. So basically, good old Jinx would watch videos and react to them. Nice idea for a channel. We kind of do that with different things here and there. We've known to do that here and there. We've been known to dabble. But there are, of course, someone out there would have made the argument at some point, well, hey, hypothetically, what if you just sort of smile and whatever? Do you think that's ethical? And you'd probably be like, what do you mean just? Why would anyone do that? You'd obviously comment. You'd say what you think, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, you critique or you'd elaborate or you'd offer some level of insight or commentary, you know? There's so many options you have. That's why I pause so much. Yeah, I mean, so this is the thing. It's a part of it. EFAP's inception. It's not just that we always want to hear all the arguments. It's also that I would like to transform it into new content. So many can't get just by watching their video. Of course, that's part of the idea. The Jinx got really popular really quickly at one point and people were not getting happy about it. And he reacted to this very video. And this, oh no. Oh, I was like snatching me quiet. Oh, which means God. Oh, wait, hang on. He's doing a Tism. Oh, I'm scared. It's all right. I'm missing one link, but I can get it in a sec. You guys don't panic. Okay. I would not do that. I'm hyperventilating. Oh my God. I don't even know what the plan is, but it's falling apart. You know what's funny about this is myself. I want to show all of this and I kind of intend to because it's so good for the point he's making. But I don't actually know if we'll be okay to show all of it really. I don't think they won't be a problem with copyright. You guys can decide. This video is called, it's by Jack's Films. And it's called Reacting to an Awful React Channel. So you haven't seen Jinx yet, Rags. But you will. I've never seen Jinx. He made his video reacting to that video we just saw. And now Jack's film is making a video reacting to him reacting to his video. Hey guys, it's me Jack. Today we're going to react to a really cool YouTuber. Name Jinx. Here we go. I'm really going nuts over this one. Okay. Okay.  It's like window in the window. It's almost 100. No, really. That's almost 100. I guess I already know what's happening now. I've read your comments for four years now. I'm almost done. Every single one.  Gotta end the game. And the only one to blame is me. You got to finish better. Go out strong. So with just this, I think I'm just starting to understand the point. That might be getting crossed here. It's amazing already because it's just like, oh, okay. I see. Again, I'm going to try and push us through a lot of this just so you can understand the magnitude. Okay. Okay. Oh, there's a lot of nut in here. I see that need to talk over this. You're like, this is unacceptable. Say something. Do something. Like I want to poke you to make sure you're still okay. He just teeters over and he falls over. He's kind of, he's kind of vibing. That's something, right? He's too tired from setting up his new apartment. He doesn't want to unload all the furniture yet. He's just had a long day. He'll do it later. He just put the mattress on the floor for tonight. He's just got a crash. A little reaction video. A little bit of reaction before bed, you know. No, I could believe that he has the energy to upload a reaction video like this before he goes to bed. Absolutely. Yeah, man. He's grinding. He's getting them videos out. Yeah, he's working hard. He's really working hard for the money. Working man. There you go. He's laughing. He's reacting. Diabetes. Diabetes. That is hard to say, changing.  Even if he's touching his mouth now. Evelyn asking, you could at least pause to be like, what's working about this? What's making you laugh? Why are you laughing?  I'm just like I'm streaming This is content This is content. Oh, there's content. It's funny I am this cracker food and this is content. I just get amused infinitely that he's maintaining that smile Keeping a straight face He's breaking well, it's actually hard to maintain a face like that Well, why not this this other guy this jinx guy's doing it Yeah, you're right. He's had lots of practice maybe I don't know normally does this but Once That is so cleaver by the way the the font on what he's reading are these like super old or Yeah, the the font of the way And the names below the comments Yeah, for reference this video was made in 2015 And so the the yo grandma sucks one was probably made in My guess is probably early 2015. I don't know. So then and then comments were coming from all over the place As well as older youtube I could also imagine there's like some coming from like What's this website called way back machine or something where I can find like archives web archive websites Yeah, yeah, yeah And maybe there's like oh wait. That was like a funny comment. That's not there anymore I'm just gonna check that and maybe they send something like this. We already contributed better than this jinx guy That I had to fight like the way he masturbutes Masturbutes What is the word? He's got a word. He said a word. Well, see that's the thing you could at least talk about it, but he's just going Me asking how old these comments were has been more than he's done. Yeah more chunks now. It's just me It's just asking a natural question. I feel like these look old Like that that person has had theoretically Years and years to learn how to spell masturbute One if can do it by now So I'm I'm impressed at the ability to Speak incorrectly Yeah, which might sound very unusual, but it's often more It's often easier to speak properly incorrectly because I'm used to it. Yeah Purposefully, yeah Yeah, you're where your brain will try and make it correct because you speak so naturally and you've done it for so long in your life Yeah, there's gotta be a lot of practice that goes into Purposefully miss speaking all of these words without your brain Automatically making it the right word like it quote unquote should be Isn't that this text somewhere that has like the the first and last letter or the correct ones and the other ones are scrambled Yeah, and you can read the whole text without yeah Your brain will take over and yeah, and it'll start to formulate the word I gotta I gotta say though delving into a bit of dsp law now I know deep law. I just every time I just see jinx's face. I piss myself because almighty tevin When he was when he used to restream dsp He would he would yeah He used to restrain dsp And he would get um the jinx face like a jinx face like this and he just put it on his screen to look like he was reacting to Well, I mean I was gonna say um I would play it all we'll get to I think the song itself is about five minutes So you can imagine what you just saw you see it again, and then we'll see this. Yeah, I get I get the gist Our jinx is he's been hard reacting to this he's getting tired. Yeah, man. I wish I had a real bed in my flat There's a lot of raping going on there We got a noise out of him. Oh god. He's still got that smile too jack. Nice Looks like he wants to yeah, no jack's doing all right.  I've noticed there's a I see a trend here. He likes he doesn't like them They are they give him the the snug hold that he prefers. I feel just a little a little room in front Hmm So now it's time Yeah, like he that feels like an obligatory. Oh, yeah, that's right. I should do something here Well, are you ready for oceans of insight racks? I am because well, here's the thing.  I better stop wrapping this dead body and Do a quick reaction It feels weird seeing a sink behind a vlogging video, but you know, it's a style It does feel alive this maybe this is uh, maybe he's in a studio, you know, it's kind of all in one Yeah behind that with people Yeah, absolutely for some people not for everyone else Um, but I think that he was quiet during the whole thing didn't do much because he was gathering his thoughts He was charging his spirit bomb. Absolutely.  It's gonna be great I'm ready. I'm ready.   It's not gonna happen The video I've been commenting on all his channel for four years now. I really should clean up my grammar Next film said to send take a screenshot and send it to me and he wasn't even listening Really really well if you weren't adding to it or interacting with it in any way Yeah, you'd think but he's wondering could he cut the arms off the person in the room behind him or the leg His mind is at other places. Yeah, he's just like thinking which would I get blood splotcher on the wall? I'm gonna have to be recording that. Maybe.  He's also He didn't edit this. He's he's not kind of any of his huge gaps or nothing This is like this is just soul food I don't think you have to but at the same time man, you just took his whole video.  To get him to put them in the video almost that is the more likely result of this happening But no, he's like hey if you watch this channel your grammar should improve because you wouldn't want to post something bad that ends up in a video Would you? Maybe it's depressing. I wonder if jacks Thinks that's depressing that he'll never run out of this style of content.  You're like, yes That yeah, yeah I yeah Oh, excuse me.  That is Yeah, that's what happens when you make actual content Yeah He's probably got millions and I'm just like, I know he gets like thousands of comments on each video and he really finds you He was literally said them He said it in his video. You weren't listening. You should have been listening.   I don't get on a sand Anyone can happen to the audience.  Jack is a talented man, you know Thank you I don't care what your grammar I disagree. I I advocate for high standards in speech I think you could constantly strike improve. Yeah, you know be like that like because I don't really trip because like I know when I'm texting or writing comments I don't really be paying attention to everybody I don't really be paying attention.  Let's just the Talk to me. Oh, wait, can I do it?  So I know what I want you to I just be English class never ended Imagine thinking to yourself It's okay if they watch my whole video if they've got like a you know an extensive review of some kind if they really want You know, but what this is it.  I think this was the one so we'll actually once we finish this one We'll get into um the matter of all of this But if they tell what I'm trying to say Then I'll know I'm gonna go and have a pee Yeah, so It was dope though.  Yeah Yeah, let's warm out this warm out. It was a tough one Yeah I got some stuff to do But anyway, I think we're at about 900 he's gotta react to this empty room Hold on one second. Oh, yes. He's he's at 940. You think of putting a k on the end of whenever he uses those numbers That's where he's at jinx at this point 940,000 subscribers.  How exactly rags. Well, we're almost there Give me a second We are at 43 subscribers and over 200k views. So like I said man when we hit like 980 or 990 subscribers I'll send out a I'll put out a q&a video Let all you guys ask your questions. I'll say I don't know about you guys I am desperate to find out more about this man. He's so interesting.  Yeah, tired. Oh, this where is she down man? The the daily grind This is what they're talking about when they When they when they talk about that grind and then there's a nine five Gotta make that page gotta pay the rent, you know We're reacting to a reaction of a reaction in there. So I can see you don't have to work Does that mean we're doing like triple the grind he's doing then, right?  Listen to this.   So it's just But it's like But that's because anyone who's ever uploaded it youtube is like, okay, if you're making a really long project that's high um, you know high definition 60 frames per second and editing is that yeah, that'll take a long time But this shit Like this is what 720 max Maybe 30 fps.  He's pumping them out three per day because Yeah, man, if it's your job Then you think you'd want to invest a little bit into your job and stuff It's literally tax deductible if you buy a new laptop that you use for your job You can put that on your taxes. That's a work expense, man What don't I miss? I miss I feel as if I miss him. He's now talking about how difficult it is to do his job I'm just imagining all the time and effort it takes for jack's films to take all the Yeah, yeah, that's hard work everyone Take every image save it not mix them up by accident So he probably titles them a certain way like one two three four five, etc Put them in the timeline individual each one put them in the spot And like that alone isn't difficult But however for the amount that there is the tedium of having to do that the stuff people don't appreciate when they want Yeah, that that takes a lot of time. I thought it's what jinx is jinx is Work is hard Hey, well, he sat down. This is one take this is it took his videos 11 minutes and 46 seconds It took him 11 minutes and 46 seconds to make this video Yeah, a lot of time and the uh, then he put yeah, they just yeah put it into the editing software and just Rendered it. I'm I don't even think oh, I don't even think he had to render it. Well, so Because he just this is just he's gonna just upload the file I'm not familiar with iMovie, but he was saying that it went from iMovie to youtube directly Yeah, like there's probably integration or I guess yeah, maybe it's in the software itself or something Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's like Yeah, it's a direct upload you just record it and then boom post to youtube And your account is linked so it knows where to post it. You don't edit it It doesn't have to change file formats or render like it doesn't start in a vegas format or anything like that for size constraints So you do have to render it still though.  He's a really really bad youtuber like one of the worst is the point Yeah um livestream I don't know about that one. I would but it like it's not like I got like 10,000 subscribers I played to jack's looking at me Like a dog's nose wait. Sorry. What did you say then?  That'd be like three of us sitting here talking to each other so go with Q&A video so everybody's he's he's at 1.6 million subs jinx at this point Wow Anybody want to know some facts about me? Just ask. Um, I guarantee you I'm gonna answer Where did you end up dumping the body?  That was just I really like the part where you played my video in its entirety And then didn't really react to it just kind of I also like the part where you added virtually no insight. You just kind of rambled on for about Missed the point entirely The entire video in your channel. It's like it's a one-stop shop Why bother going to my channel to watch that video when you can just watch that and your reaction So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna start reacting to your videos, but I'll just show your videos in their entirety That way at my one-stop shop people don't even have to go to your channel They can just go to mine for your videos and then my reaction sound good. God bless Yeah Yeah, so um, this became quite a problem. He wasn't the only channel. There was loads of people just doing this where they They barely react. They play the whole video and then they go. Yeah, bye So it's like you you're just stealing the videos all you've done and for some reason it works Do people just react to tv shows and they'll say basically nothing and they'll get a gajillion dollars for it Yes, there are there are planning examples of that as well And so of course, um, it's really disappointing from an audience tab But it's like guys we do it. Why are you subscribed to these people? Why aren't you just watching the videos they they're watching? Why are you watching them? Watch it when they don't even react. I don't know. I don't I don't even see what the appeal is but Uh, after jack did this and iDubbbz did a video on jinx. It you got slaughtered. Um, Yeah I don't think I've seen that when was that uh five years ago. Yeah, it's an old oldy, but a goody Um, and so jinx himself. He's still doing this. I think He's getting like two to three thousand Yeah, this channel killed Absolutely killed. I think he switched up his content. I don't know what he's doing now. Um Yeah, do content now Well, he's about 15 seconds long each now. Um Sometimes going up to as much as 30 seconds by the looks of it His his newest video is called have you ever loved anime and tattoos? It's 25 seconds long I feel like So Yeah, uh, it didn't work out and he got killed as a genre which I love by the way.    He's so insightful How could you expect him to talk about anime and tattoos for over the 25 seconds? Turn to chris. He'll save you. He is a great redeemer. So there's something something I'd sub Q&A and they was me thinking that's where it died and we were done.  It just went away for a bit And it's trying to make its way back. No, I think I've been done with this website youtube nine seconds long Yeah, I don't know it's it's fun to see uh jack have the smile throughout the whole thing and then just It's the hard cuts to him just shitting all over drinks. Uh, there's the payoff because we were all thinking it, you know So yeah, so there's uh, you guys may be aware again We're getting close to the realms of the present now and you'll know these names as I say them. You remember pokemane, right? Yeah, yeah, I'm only familiar with her. I've never seen her content or anything. I just Like a streamer. Yes twitch streamer. Um, she's possible. Is she the most popular female streamer on the platform now? Is this at some point? I don't know Yeah, I Um So we'll get a little bit of a of a look see if she got into a controversy I want to say a couple months ago. Maybe half a year at this point. I really can't remember time is a complicated beast Um, and she got criticized for a lot of things the main one The main one was um, she was copyright striking people for uh Making compilations of his streams. I think was was that I don't want to oh, yeah. Yeah, remember that I remember this wrong, but we're gonna watch.  Yeah, she struck Pewdiepie for uh, either reacting to a Right. Yeah. Yeah.  Sorry 19 years old.  This is she's quite a she's beloved. Oh, he's absolutely But anyway, so for those who are confused, this is um a channel called diesel patches He's done a video about her around about the time and I've just got we've got a little five second five minute chunk Sorry, uh, that gives you an idea of why I'm bringing this up and we can talk a bit about the pieces So with that in mind, let's start the first section So this is a video specifically about pokeman And I guess I shouldn't see this could just wait a couple of like a minute. I have to go toilet you You know what that sounds like a good Uh opportunity for me to also go And I'll be back in a little bit. Oh Yeah, well, he I figure while he's gone. I'll go too. All right because we got us Anyway, this is my window bargain wait. We could tag team it So anyway, how you doing for me? I isn't this an interesting journey into the world of not making content at all Well, I remember the the jinx stuff I remember when that was because that was like 2014 2015. I remember that like there was a whole The guy had everything to the video on like all of the sort of react channels and how It was just the same thing sitting there watching not saying anything that occasionally going And then more silence and then I was uh, that was pretty funny. Anyway, like and subscribe. I'll see you next time Because the the happy good place it spawned from was that people do enjoy it when say for example You you found a joke really funny in a movie Whatever like I think it was people like watching us laugh at moulin the original like all the jokes in it They were like, oh, it's actually fun to watch them Be told a joke and laugh at the joke You know, it's rare that that happens on eFab at all and it's just it was nice to see and this is like Yeah, um, unfortunately, it's been like I don't even know how to put it like it's been it's been Factor it fact. What's wrong with what am I looking for like, um Factory made in the they know they have to drop a laugh in x amount of time and then just cover everything And that should probably win you out. It's like the easiest way to do it Um, which is yeah a huge Perversion of what people were actually looking for but the thing is, you know audience members that are just surfing through the internet They they might not even be able to tell the difference.  I'll watch this random guy react to it and then he goes, huh That was funny Yeah If you're looking for that reaction, then I guess you got it plus the content itself and the reality is That the the traffic through to the original thing is minimal Very tiny. That's that's the reality. You're not You're not Yeah, it's it's just it's not helping. Um, in fact, it's actively detrimental to the you