Good morning, everyone. I'd like to recognize the occupants of the head table. I'll start with my extreme left. We have a representative from Lusilec, a very important representative. I can't remember his name. Mr. Omari Frederick. And next to him, we have Ms. Anya James, who is the teacher responsible for the program at the school. We have our chairman of the board, Mr. Bousquet, Anthony Bousquet. And we have a very special guest who has taken time off from his schedule in the U.S. to be here with us to launch the robotics program. That's Mr. Tanzi. Welcome, everyone. I see some parents with us. We always love when the parents come with us. Let me recognize Mr. Oogist as well, the vice principal. And of course, me, I'm the principal of the school, Mr. Fontenelle. Young men, welcome as well to the launch of this program. This robotics program is the brainchild of our chairman, Mr. Bousquet. And he has worked assiduously to ensure that we launch this robotics program at St. Mary's College. Now, this is not a new initiative in terms of secondary schools. In fact, I've visited a number of schools in the region, Jamaica, Barbados, and so on. And all those schools have purging robotics programs. And the potential of this program is immense. Mr. Tanzi is an engineer. And he's worked on some very top secret classified programs in the U.S., which I will not mention. And there is no reason why a few of those students sitting here cannot follow in those footsteps. And I don't see why in the near future we cannot be reading the headlines over Samirian working at NASA or at the Kennedy Space Station. Sky's the limit. At St. Mary's College, sky's the limit. So with those brief remarks, I would just like to welcome everyone. I'd like to thank Lucillek for the sponsorship of this program. I'd like to thank Mr. Tanzi for gracing us with his presence and also for training the trainers who will be impacting this program on our young men. I'd like to thank Ms. James for enthusiasm. We have some very enthusiastic teachers here who I'm sure will run with this program. And of course, the Chairman of the Board, Mr. Buske, who is also extremely enthusiastic about this robotics program. So without further ado, I'd like to welcome everyone and let's enjoy this opening ceremony. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. And thank you for coming in at such an early hour. I notice you're still on holidays, technically, young men, but get accustomed to it. That's what SMC is about, some hard work. Just when this opening ceremony is to be very brief because we need to get down to the brass tacks of it all in terms of educating our young men. But I think it's important for us to outline how we got here and the purpose for this program. So at the White House, the President of the United States was impressed when he saw very young high school students demonstrating robots that they had built at their school. So he used the opportunity to announce training of 100,000 teachers in the areas of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics, STEM. And he also announced that public-private partnerships had already garnered $700 million. Now, this event did not occur last week, last month, or even last year. It occurred 13 years ago when President Obama was in the White House. I recount this story to ask one question, to demonstrate one thing. The question is, are we preparing our kids for the new economy? And to demonstrate that we are lagging the rest of the world. And having said that, let's not make any mistake and think that we can do nothing. We may lack monetary resources, but we do have an abundance of the most important resource, young, bright, eager minds. That's why you are here today. A cross-section of our students is here today, not just a cross-section of the bright students at St. Mary's College, but a cross-section of St. Lucia. Because we do have bright people in many of our schools. But you have St. Mary's and opportunity here. We may lack funds, but we do not lack teachers with the brains and drive to propel our students forward. And we honor the principal, we honor the teachers who are engaged in this program. And we honor you, Ms. James, who has spent the summer going through the curriculum. And we, I must say, believe you me, she deserves a round of applause. We may lack funds, but we are not wanting in friends like Carnegie Mellon University and Professor Lotanzi. And his great-wife Karen, his great-wife Karen, who will give their time and have given their time and talent to this endeavor. We honor you today as we remember that you are here despite your hometown being impacted by Hurricane Italia. And so we thank you for being here, and we honor you today. We may lack funds, but we are not penniless. The PPP, President Obama spoke about in 2010, facilitated one such relationship, facilitated this program. I take this opportunity to thank Lusilec for the $10,366 that they donated to this program. We honor and we thank you. I also thank the anonymous donor who, when I approached you in the U.S. and asked for $3,000 E.C., you said, okay, let me look into this. And you trusted me and you gave me $3,000 U.S. $8,000 E.C. To Lusilec and to the anonymous donor, you may know me, but still the books are open to you to see how this money was spent. Dover Eye, no Prover Eye. Trust, but verify. Popularized by Ronald Reagan, but an old Russian proverb, I know Russian isn't popular today, but when their civilization very early, they came up with this proverb. So we thank you and we appreciate you. Young men, men in training, integrity counts for a lot. You have a tremendous opportunity through this program to get a head start in mathematics, physics, electronics, programming. Embrace it, seize it, prepare yourselves for the new economy, but be ensured that you must also be men of integrity. Men of integrity, propelling solution forward through your education and through the gifts you have been given. Be men of service. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Buske. And our board chairman I can assure you is at the engine room of St. Mary's College. Very involved, very passionate, and I think SMC is a better place with Mr. Buske as our chairman. I'm sure with his speech you can understand that type of enthusiasm that he's bringing forward to SMC. Thank you very much, Mr. Buske. You did not thank yourself. I'd like to invite Mr. Lettanzi to give a few remarks on his tinte and exactly what we were doing at SMC with the robotics program. Thank you very much for having me here. My wife here. It's really an honor to be here. I learned a lot about the college. I am so impressed. So many talented people came out of the school, so there's got to be a lot of talented people in the room, I'm sure. A little about myself. I've been an engineer for 40 years, just about 40 years, so I'm an old guy. I have worked on lots of really cool stuff though. I've been very blessed in my career. I've worked on aerospace systems. I've worked on automotive systems. I've worked on robotics appliances, so a lot of appliances like refrigerators, washing machines, you name it. They've got computers in them. They've got software in them, right? I've worked on networking and comms. I work in the startup for a few years in the startup, and I am currently a practicing engineer. So I work at a spin out from a university in Florida, University of South Florida right now, where I'm the CTO, Chief Technology Officer for our work there. It's the Institute of Flight Engineering, so we do a lot of work. A lot of it is in the military domain, but there's software everywhere. There's hardware and so forth everywhere. So one of the things I got to do in my career that was awesome was I got to teach. So while I did all this, I pretty much taught throughout my career as adjunct or as full-time faculty and full-time faculty and consulting. So one of the coolest things about teaching is mentoring, right?  And I'm like, I'm not a genius. I am far from a genius. I've just made every mistake that you can make. So, and I just don't want to make them again. So I remember, I learned. And that's why I think it's so important when you teach people, young people, STEM, when you teach them electronics, when you teach them robotics, they got to use their hands. They got to make some mistakes. So to those ends, I met Mr. Biscay through Mutual Friend. And he mentioned to me, hey, how would you like to help us start a program in robotics for young guys? I was like, yeah. So I think you are a good salesman, by the way. And we, you know, did some brainstorming. I worked with Ms. James over the summer. And, you know, she helped me out because quite honestly, while I've taught a lot, I've never taught, you know, young guys like you, and I'm looking forward to learning more about that. I'm also learning forward to seeing how you learn. And we're putting together a lot of labs. We've worked yesterday. We built some bots. We looked at some software. And what you guys are going to be working on is something like this. You're going to be building something like this. And what you're going to have when you show up on the first day as a box of parts and pieces, you're not even going to have the little plastic piece on here. So what is this? Well, it's a robot. What's in a robot and why should you study robotics? Robotics is one of the most challenging engineering fields that you can get into. Why? Because it involves computers. It involves the software that's in there that makes it do things. It involves electronics. It involves sensors. And it involves mechatronics. You've got to have some mechanics who can put things together, right? So it involves all of that. And it's not going to be easy. You're going to be challenged, but I'm sure that you guys can rise to the challenge. And every time you make a mistake, you think, well, I just learned something, right? So you'll have an opportunity to learn more. So the last thing I want to say is that two things. One is I always like to say that it's great to mentor engineers because you never know when there's going to be an Elon Musk in the room. I don't think there's any Elon Musk in this room. I think there's many, right? And this is how you get started and hopefully you're inspired in some way to take up engineering. It's been a fantastic career for me. I couldn't think of doing anything else. It's very exciting. I also want to thank Ms. James for helping me through this and working together. It's been awesome. And thank you, Anthony, for the opportunity. And that's it. Thank you very much, Professor Lethanzi. I'd just like to make the point that we deliberately selected students from one and from two. And that was not by accident. It was deliberate because we want them to be in the program for longevity. So the from twos have at least four years. The from ones have five years to engage in that robotics program. And please note, our sponsors as well, that we are looking forward to, you know, continued support for the longevity of the program. And as Mr. Lethanzi said, I'm certain that coming out of this program, that we will have some engineers being developed from this robotics program. And that is really the aim. You know, I always say that at St. Mary's, we want to develop young men who will contribute positively to society.  And while they go into the robotics field, as you saw this robot there, there are so many different mechanics involved, so many different aspects of engineering that they can get involved in. So I think this program is well set at St. Mary's. I'd like to invite our sponsor to come and give a few remarks on behalf of the select. Good morning. Permit me first before I begin to segment our audience into two groups. One being important people, and the other being very important people. So to our important people, I say good morning to our principal, Mr. Fontenelle, to our vice-principal, I'm trying to remember all the names, Ms. Uggist, to our chairman, Mr. Buske, to our guest of one, of course, Professor Lethanzi, we pronounce the name correctly. And of course, our staff physics teacher, Ms. Ania James, to the faculty, to the parents, to all of our countries. And I see my friend from Optronics in the back, Mr. Patrick, hello. These are the important people, to the very important people in the room. As a young man, who I'm looking at right now in form one and form two, will be taking up this program. If I seem very excited this morning, it's for a good reason because it's a reason to celebrate at this point in time. And for me personally, it's a reason to celebrate twofold. One, as a company, we get to be a part of this fantastic movement that will allow us to find modern day solutions to the challenges that we are facing as a nation, as a region, and globally. Secondly, on a personal level for me, science and technology is at my core. I am what I call a modern day nerd. I have represented solutions on a number of occasions in the area of science and the area of technology is a very special part of my life. And as a company, Lucelek, we were built on a cornerstone of innovation, built on science and technology. So it's a natural fit for us to support the work of the college, support the work of our friends at Optronics who are doing major things on a global front. For those of you who pay attention to social media, you'll also see Optronics featured prominently shaking hands with Mia Motley of Barbados, another proud movement, another great movement. To our young men, just a couple of messages. Someone mentioned service in the earlier comments. Service is the rent that we pay for life. And we always remember everything that you do, as was said by your principal or your chairman, sorry, act with integrity. You are the future leaders. You are the ones who will be finding the solutions to the challenges that we face as a nation and we will face in the future. Explore your interests, and of course, more importantly, when you are equipped with the skills over the next few years, use those skillsets to mentor and encourage others to follow in the path. So right now, you are very important people because you are the future, and you are the ones who are going to blaze the way for us for a better future. So with those few words, I will say as well that Lusilec remains committed to supporting this initiative. We must extend Kudos to the St. Mary's College for this critical and groundbreaking initiative. It was said a few years ago in an interview that the Caribbean is playing catch-up with respect to robotics and technology, but I would offer a different perspective on that. It's never too late. And I truly suspect that the timing is just right because based on the faces of the gentleman in this room, I know that the future of robotics is in fantastic hands. So on behalf of Lusilec, thank you for the opportunity to partner. I will look forward to further discussions on funding. And when we do fund, we look forward to verifying how those funds are spent. So thank you very much on behalf of Lusilec. Thank you very much. Some very comforting words from our sponsor. And last but definitely not least, the individual who is really at the heart of this program because when Mr. Lethanzi leaves us at the end of this week, the responsibility of ensuring that this program will lie squarely on the shoulders of Ms. Anya James with support from the school's administration. So she is at the heart of this program. And I would like to invite Ms. James to give us a few words and an overview of the robotics program as it will be at St. Mary's College. Good morning everyone. So I wasn't nervous to speak, but right now I am after learning that I have this much responsibility. I would like to first of all thank everyone, especially the students for the interest, the interest in the program. I have received many emails from parents and students. One miss, I can't get into the classroom miss. I didn't receive an email miss. That shows the enthusiasm and I hope that enthusiasm stays throughout. I would also like to thank Mr. Bosque for having the idea but not only having the dream but making it a reality. Because many of us we dream, but the extra work to make it a reality, it's difficult and I'm sure he can tell you that, but he got it done and I appreciate that Mr. Bosque. Thank you very much. And I would like to thank Mr. Fontenelle for his support because without him of course, if he said no it wouldn't happen. So thank you very much for that Mr. Fontenelle and thank you Lucille. Thank you for working with us. And of course a very special thank you to Mr. Tony Latanzi because without him I did not have any idea how we would have started it. He was able to do it from scratch and actually made something very formal for me to follow even the little bits I did not know because my special, my training is in electronics, not robotics. So he was able to put all the pieces together for me so I could make a program for the students that they would enjoy, you would understand also that I would understand. And thank you to Mr. Javatis and Mr. Evans. They also will be helping in training our young ones. So they would not mention but can you stand up and can we give them a round of applause for help for being in the training. So Mr. Javatis and Mr. Evans. For those who don't know me, I know the students I haven't taught many of the students so I am Ms. James, I'm the physics teacher here and before I was in science fair I was very very very strong in science fair and St. Mary's College was known in the science activities rally at and we dominated the science field in St. Lucia and I would like us to have that, start us back dominating the science field in St. Lucia. We have one of our science royalty at the back there to the round, Mr. Keegan Patrick. I worked with him. Keegan was my student. He took part in many science fair competitions and won. He actually won the surgical visionaries challenge which is something that lasted three years and St. Mary's College won every single year there was a surgical visionaries challenge. We were undefeated in that. So that's the legacy I want you boys to know and that is what I want you all to keep that we St. Mary's College will be those students that will be dominating the science field in St. Lucia eventually the Caribbean. Okay so how the program will be once a week we will meet after school for two hours you will be working in teams so that is one of the skills that this program will also be fostering teamwork how do we work together for us to build this robot to follow our commands and to do what we wanted to do so that is another skill that you will be learning while doing this program. So we will have competitions at the end of every term so you are not just building a robot saying you build a robot but your robot will be doing something and based on your code we will see who has built the better robot so you will have competitions okay so it is a learning process but you're not just learning for learning sake we're going to have fun doing it as well right because we all love a little competition and then that will encourage us for us to do well hopefully you will be doing this robotics camp until you graduate and not only will you be competing amongst yourself hopefully you will get the opportunity to also compete nationally as well as regionally and eventually internationally that is our goal for this program and with that we are going to end this program unless anybody has anything else to say I will bring you back to our principal and thank you again and I look forward to working with you throughout the year Thank you very much Ms. James she spoke of the enthusiasm of the students but I'm sure from what she's saying you can see that she herself exudes that level of enthusiasm and added to that you can expect and I'm putting this out there at upcoming science fairs you can expect to see SMC putting out some robots and competing on that level which would be a different level from what we normally see at science fair and in terms of the curriculum what we intend to do at SMC is gradually she spoke of after school two hours after school one day a week what we are looking to do is gradually integrated into the formal curriculum during our 830 to 230 classes so in the very near future as we work with the robotics you will find that those students who will be specializing in that field will actually be doing it within the class time and they will continue after school so we will be making time for that robotics program and I'm certain that it will flourish with these words I would like to thank everyone for being present this morning young men your morning has just started because you will get an opportunity as the day goes on to interact directly with Mr.Latanzi and get introduced to the robotics program thank you everyone our invited guests our parents I know we have some parents there we have some board members there our sponsors we will select in particular and the media houses I know GIS is there I see DBS thank you very much for your presence have a pleasant day everyone


Still on President Buhari, he has scored 70% in his efforts to fight corruption. This was the position of the chairman in the Center for Anti-Corruption and Open Leadership, stated by Debo Adin Niro, while speaking on plus politics earlier today, adding that a new strategy that involves educating those at the grassroots level will help in solving the menace. I was called to the president 70% in the fight against corruption. You see, fighting corruption is not a tea party, it's a difficult task for anybody in any country of the world, no matter how powerful, no matter how developed the country is. Corruption can be very tricky when it comes to avoiding the long arm of the law. And you also know that corruption crimes are not permitted in the open, and that means that a lot of efforts will have to be put in place to trace the evidence of corruption. The weaknesses of corruption are also not easy to come by. You need a lot of persuasion to get people into giving evidence against corrupt elements. A lot of public officials and even private sector practitioners have gotten themselves used into committing corruption crimes. It is likely to take a long time and a lot of effort into fighting corruption, into extracting corruption virus from the system that has gotten itself used to committing corruption crimes and getting away with it. What we should do is to check the paradigm. We should shift the paradigm from the elites, I mean the fight against corruption, that is what the Center for Anti-Corruption Open Leadership is doing now. Shifting the paradigm from the political elites to the grassroots, it is the grassroots that should be educated which way are educating or not to identify corruption, not to report corruption and not to extract corrupt people from their community because no corrupt person will find it easy to move around the country if we do not accommodate them in our community.


Friends, I'd like to welcome all of you here this evening. Sometime back, I mean, the atmosphere in India today, at least from my perspective, is colored with a lot of hatred, a lot of anger, frustration. And the politics, us politicians, myself included, members of the government, we tend to see the world as either them or us. And this is not my natural way. But as Advaniji will tell you, Oman Mohan Singhji will tell you that this is the design of our politics. It's confrontational and its winner takes all. But this is not how I'm designed in sight. And I'm sure this is not how many of you are designed in sight. In fact, I'm sure Mr. Advani would agree with the basic idea of what I'm saying. Sometime back, 10 years, 10 years or so back, I had gone to Vietnam, and I had a very interesting experience. I like to travel around. And I had heard a lot about the Vietnam War. And I had heard about the pain that the Vietnamese people felt, lots of Americans died in Vietnam. So I was curious to go and see what had been the impact of this war in Vietnam. And I decided that I would go for a boat ride down the Nekong River. And so one morning, I went there, found the boatman about five in the morning. And I said, can you take me down the Nekong? Three hours that way and three hours this way. And then we can be back by about noon. So broken English. But he said, yes, so off we went. It was dark in the morning. And I started chatting to him. He started showing me these floating rice fields. He started describing things to me. And then after about half an hour, I went to the point.  What about the war? Were you dead during the war? I said, of course. So I said, so what did you do during the war? He said, I fought the war. So I said, oh. So I said, can you tell me about the war? So he said, yeah, I'll tell you about the war. So he said, I was a little boy. I was six, seven years old. I was in my village. And I was playing with my cousins in my hut. And suddenly there was a boom, noise like that. And when I looked up, I saw my mother standing like this.  And I was a little boy. So I couldn't understand what had happened. And I just ran into the jungle near the village. And I just didn't stop. And I stayed there out of fear for an hour or so. And then slowly I came back to the village. And I came back to the village.  And I asked my cousins what had happened.  And I asked him, what is a bomb?  Go and talk to those people over there. And these were youngsters. So he went and spoke to those people. And they were basically the Vietcong. And they told him, listen, young man, you're too young. You can't fight right now. You go back. Five, seven years later, you can come back. And so he came back five, seven years later. And he joined the Vietcong. And I asked, listen, you fought the Americans. Did you get injured? And then he started. He pulled his leg up. He pulled his cloth up. And he showed me an injury. He showed me another one here. He started everywhere.  His conversation was going on. It was quite a mess, because he was just, I had no idea that this man had gone through all this. It was all hidden to me. He just was, he looked to me like a regular person. But I started to, as I went down this boat ride, I started to unwrap the person I started to see. My God, this fellow, he's killed people. He's been injured. His friends have died. His mother has died. This is the whole story in my mind. And then he says to me, listen, can I take off my cap? And he had one of those Vietnamese caps. It was hot. So I said, of course.   So I said, my God, what is that? He said, that's a fragment from a hand grenade. So I was taken aback. I was like, how did he get that? And he says, well, an American soldier threw a hand grenade at me. It hit me. And I'd be on it again. And I killed him. And then I was in hospital for six months. So by this time, I was just absolutely amazed.   And he said, why?   Because they bombed your country.    So he says, he looks up. And he said, well, they're not here now. So I was like, that's interesting. What about the past? And he said, well, the Americans will put you in my boat. You wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the Americans. So I went, oh. He said, yeah. So I said, OK, then.  And you killed the Americans. And he said, no, no, no, no, no. I didn't hate the Americans. But I fought them. The point I'm making is you can fight someone with all your might. But hate is a choice. It's an active choice that you make. And I think that is something that is very important to understand. I might disagree with Mr. Advani. And I might have a completely different conception of the country than Mr. Advani does. And I can fight Mr. Advani on every single inch. But I don't need to hit him. I can actually hug him and fight him. Now, it's interesting. It's very interesting how this works. Because now, whenever I come across the APNPs, they sort of take two steps back. They're like, we better be careful he's going to hug us. But it's not such a bad thing. And I think the strength of this nation and Karan Singh Ji is sitting here. And I didn't mention his name, but I should have. He's sitting here because he's taught me a lot about our country, about our religion. And if there is one thing that our religion teaches us, is that you absolutely cannot get imprisoned by secret. And that is what is my endeavor.  And let's fight. I will take on Narendra Modi Ji, all the Congresspeople sitting here, my friend on the left there, Mr. Huchuri, we will all take on the BJP. And they will fight us. But we don't need to hit them. I don't know if I can expect the same from them. Thank you.


The World War I air, the Piper of Llews fills the garden lobby of the Scottish Parliament as a painting gifted by the army in Scotland is unveiled. The painting, which is called Service, marks the relationship between the army and the people of Scotland. It also commemorates the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Llews, which saw Scottish battalions suffer severe losses. It's a great honour to have this painting presented to us by the army in Scotland. We have a good relationship with the army as a parliament and the army has an excellent relationship with the people of Scotland. What this painting does is it depicts that relationship, both between the army, the people and the parliament itself. Among those attending today's event was veteran major Tom Conway, who served at El Alamein in World War II. One of several scenes involving Scottish regiments depicted in the work. We asked David Rowlands, the artist, who spent several years researching Scottish military activity over the last hundred years, which is depicted in 22 scenes. And there's a huge amount behind me of activity around the world. I hope it will symbolise the linkage between the society that Scottish soldiers come from and tie everything together. The painting will be on display at the Scottish Parliament until the end of January. It then goes on tour at venue throughout the country. In the meantime, it is available for people to view as part of the Scottish Parliament's art tours.


Have all the money and they're not they are not the biggest good company in gaming right now. I will I will bet you Where did I see this hold on ten cents? They made up the most number of investments. I don't know anyway Anyway, that's interesting. I'm gonna stoke up Founded fears about your gaming companies great On the other hand, I think it's interesting that Rocket League is gonna be an epic game thing Right when everybody's really upset at epic games, but loves Rocket League So which will win outrage against epics exclusives or love for Rocket League? Well, that's that's my rage is against the machine cover band pretty good cover band Outrage against the machine. Here's the thing though. Epic is They're trying with their 88% or their thing where they say they'll quit snagging exclusives of steam changes their revenue model Well, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like their weird attempt to try to soften things up with the players I don't know what that is. I can't tell yet. I don't know which way that swings but Yeah, it's a weird thing I'm sure there's all sorts of crazy outrage about that, but I don't know that doesn't really bug me They know how to how to run and support successful video games Why not why not everybody loved epic until until they did the exclusive thing and then it just you know That worm turns pretty fast. Oh, yeah, it's a fast-turning worm Mm-hmm Left and right sometimes you need to take the anti worm medication and you need to deworm It would be where they put electrodes in the ground to make the war Was that called earthworm? Yeah, well you electrocute the ground and earthworms come up gaming is like that News just makes the worms go Come to the surface By the way Fitbit beat its Q1 revenue expectations because of smartwatch growth Fitbit I'm also. I'm so sorry that I missed the show with the eyes yesterday. I know We'll do it again though. Yeah, of course, of course and you know, thanks to everybody for holding it down for me. Yes Well, he's He's okay. He's not great. Nothing serious though. Yeah, he just has so I don't know your infections. Yeah, it's a dog ear infection. Yeah, he's not gonna like No, no, he definitely doesn't not like taking his medication, but oh and Ray doesn't either because Ray's got one too, right?  Yeah, I guess so I'm just so glad it's not a Foxtail, yeah, that's what you got to be careful with that because you know your brains Um Well, but but yeah, but thanks to everybody for holding it down yesterday and betcha glad to be back All right, you guys ready to do a show then big enough. Yeah I like it a lot. Let's do it Roger. Yes Yes, let's do it then here we go and three two Reese Kenworthy has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Reese become a DTNs member at patreon.com DTNS This is the Daily Tech News for May Day May 1st 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane from a way too cold May 1st in Salt Lake City. I'm Scott Jones and Make you sure I don't forget my wife's birthday today. I'm the show's producer Roger Jane You can easily remember it. It's always on International Labor Day. Yeah. Yeah, happy happy Labor Day to the workers of the world Let's start today by telling you we're gonna talk about whether slack has actually made things worse or Better as far as communication and then tell you a few tech things where you should know IDC estimates that worldwide Q1 smartphone shipments fill 6.6 percent a year over last year rather Huawei climbed back into second place by raising shipments up 50.3 percent quite a jump Vivo raised its shipments 24 percent and tied for fifth Samsung stayed in first while its shipments fell 8.1 percent Apple slipped into third Falling 30.2 percent and Jami was fourth falling at 10.2 percent. So that's the false Oppo slipped 6 percent, but tied Vivo for fifth Wow, it's the worst horse race I've ever heard of speaking of Huawei Nikkei reports Huawei plans to launch an 8k television with a built-in 5g connection by the end of the year It could potentially act as a router to share the connection the verge notes Foxconn claimed to be working on a TV with 8k 5g and AI to be made at its Wisconsin location, which is weirdly empty all the time But okay, sure 8k TVs coming to Wisconsin 8k 5g AI with blockchain Right to try to fit more buzzwords in there Researchers at Cisco Talos said attackers have been actively exploiting a critical zero-day vulnerability in Oracle's web logic server Since at least April 21st the exploit could be used to install ransomware with no interaction needed from the end users That's what makes this bad. It doesn't require anybody to get phished or click on anything And it's actively being exploited. It just requires an HTTP connection to a vulnerable server Oracle released an emergency patch on Friday So, you know public service announcement if you're working at an organization that runs web logic servers make sure they're patched Google said it will roll out a new feature in the coming weeks that will let users choose to automatically delete Location history and web and app activity You'll be able to choose to have the data deleted every three months or every 18 months a little more control I like that Google revealed details about a new customer service AI named call joy It's kind of the opposite of duplex It's for a business to take incoming calls with an AI it can answer questions like business hours It can text URLs for things that could be done online Like oh we have that available online Would you like me to text that and the AI I'll text you something and it can refer customers to human operators as well You have to use a new phone number if you're a business that wants to take advantage of call joy And it can only be linked to a single location Google will charge $39 a month per line Let's talk a little bit about what happened yesterday at f8 Scott Well f8 everyone's favorite keyboard key and the chance for Microsoft to get up and talk about Facebook As mentioned yesterday Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg emphasized privacy in his address at the f8 developers conference And that privacy has woven in as a theme in all the product and product announcements Verges Casey Newton to point out that Zuckerberg did not discuss why I Think I know Anyway, but in a New York Times interview to Mike Isaac Zuckerberg noted that the amount of stories Shared is expected to outnumber the number of feeds feed posts this year. That is to say on that on Facebook he also did not address the many Or sorry I did not address many of the questions put Tim in a conversation last week with his story Historian Yuval Noah Harari Especially does Facebook want to connect people for any particular purpose or simply to keep them looking at a screen I Well, it was Harari was was being much much less dramatic than Scott when he asked the question and I and I think he was asking it sincerely which I Commend Zuckerberg for engaging in that conversation with Harari, right? Harari did not play softball with him However, I think Casey Newton is tying this all together to say sure Facebook is pivoting to privacy partly because that's what its audience wants and Facebook wants Whatever its audience wants if its audience will do more things that are private by golly They're gonna deliver more privacy because that will lead to more interactions Whatever spends more time watching the screen as Harari put it is what Facebook wants to do So I would like to hear more of an answer to that myself Does Facebook want to connect people for a purpose or just to you know, addict them to Facebook? Well, I mean obviously Facebook is not gonna say oh, it's the latter But I I think it's you know, it's it's an interesting It's an interesting question that has been going on for quite some time But at this point has to be addressed at something like F8. Yeah, give us give it We know that you really just want to make money off us But you need to you need to meet people halfway I think and tell them like okay But we we we can make money doing something that is good for all of us and that you're not hearing anything like that from Facebook All you're hearing is let us tell you what you want to hear privacy. Yeah, and they I mean Their early days were more than just about getting people to stare at a screen. I'm sure that they were I'm sure that when Facebook was being formed Zuckerberg would tell you that it was just this exciting thing about what if everybody could be in the same place and what if you All have all the faces of women at Harvard, right? What if we get what if we did that? But you know, it's changed and what it's changed into is a multi-billion dollar enterprise And so yeah, I mean at some point they have to admit they just need our faces But it'd be nice if they had a more altruistic altruistic sort of plan for us all In the same Facebook vein Slightly those of you who don't listen to Tom and Scott on current geek will you're missing out But you also may not know that Scott has a fascination with thinking about the number of people in old movies who are now deceased sometimes Everybody in the whole cast of the movie. Well, Scott a study from a scientist at Oxford at university estimates that Facebook at its Current growth rate will have four point nine billion dead members by 2100 Many of us will be dead by then as well But you know, just look at the numbers in a bet of twisted statistics if Facebook stopped growing right now, which it Probably won't it would mean more dead members than living Facebook members by 2070 so right now you can choose a legacy contact and accounts can be Memorialized after you're gone the Oxford scientists said that Facebook should invite historians and archivists and archeologicalists and ethicists to participate in the process of curating this very large volume of accumulated data That we leave behind because we do in many cases Quote deceased may number the outlive May outnumber the living if current growth rates continue raising questions about what happens to our data So you probably should give a little background when on current geek I have this thing I just can't stop doing which is we'll watch something for our film festival about really old movies We'll see Casablanca for example. Yeah, I will notice that nobody there including camera people are alive They're all gone on the big crowd in the restaurant gone every single one of them. Nobody's here anymore And so I don't know why that's interesting to me. It just is and I see it I mean, it's interesting especially because you know, these are like classic movies where nobody involved Directly is around anymore. Yeah, and then but here is their art and it's a modern version of art and yet They're gone. So I feel like now that we're finally getting to that place in modern, you know Kinds of art be it film or whatever I find that's super fascinating. Well in this particular case, it's even more interesting because If there are that many people who were Facebook users and then passed away What is that data? Where is it and what will happen to it? I mean, I know it's on servers, but What will happen to it eventually will anything happen to it? Is it planned for by anybody? I know that there are services out there you can pay for that will Automatically email all your friends your important data and they can go to Facebook and log in and get your stuff And I know there's ways to do things around the periphery, but Most of that stuff just sits there and maybe we don't care. I don't know. It's just the subparameral thing But well, I mean, I you know Facebook's taking some steps to try to you know, figure out Okay, so what happens, you know, someone goes away You know, is someone designated as the person who now runs the account You know, if there is not that person, you know, let's make sure that that um, that the data is Protected in some way, but but yeah, I mean it's it's It's kind of it's kind of morbid But it it's it's a real thing that Facebook has to think about Particularly because many people on Facebook are not young And if you don't leave a legacy content, Facebook won't give the family access to the account because they're protecting the privacy of the person Who's dead that right? There there are privacy rights for the survivors That are that exist in a in a dead person's account But those are the people trying to get into the count usually so there ought to be a method for that To happen There's just a lot to be sorted out here Especially for accounts where there are no longer any interested parties in the survivor And at what point does the the rights of a dead person's account revert into the public domain and become part of the historical record Which it can be very valuable for so Yeah, I think this is a really interesting question to bring up And in theory it's us who will have the most data in there our generation because We're the ones that have put the most into it. My 80 year old mother has barely got a few years into facebook We're gonna have a whole lot more in there. So yeah, yeah, it'll be weird to see what they do Well for years there has been a lot of fear and uncertainty and doubt about what border agents might do to you Regarding your electronics when you return to the country Technically the customs and border control agency asserts that it has the right to search any device without a warrant In practice it rarely does But the incidents have been rising there have been notable single incidents For instance back in 2017 if you recall there was a nasa engineer Who felt he had to allow customs and border control to search his device Even though it had classified data on it that he was not allowed to let anyone else see including customs and border control agents Tuesday the electronic frontier foundation and the american civil liberties union asked a federal court to rule without trial That the department of homeland security should disregard the first and fourth that that the department of homeland security does Disregard the first and fourth amendments And that's wrong and they're asking for a preliminary ruling Saying like you should just summary judgment say look this policy Disregards the first and fourth amendments you should stop this policy of searching devices without reason without cause without warrants the motion cites statistics That customs and border patrol searched 33 295 devices in fiscal year 2018 and that is up 9% From the prior year keep in mind customs and border patrol processes more than a million passengers per day So you're talking and you know close to 400 million passengers per year 33 295 devices is a very small percentage But what the eff is pointing out here are two things one the number is going up and there's no, you know, they could be targeted for any reason and Maybe that shouldn't happen. Maybe they should be required to have a warrant or cause and we're talking about returning us citizens here Forget, you know actual actual travelers and visitors from other countries 9% um struck me as a small hike from the previous year. I don't know how the rest of you feel I mean any hike is Not great, but yeah nine's I I also would see nine and not that it would be an anomaly But let's see what it is next year and if it continues on an upward growth, then it's not a fluke, but 9% doesn't strike me as a huge increase either I guess I don't know. I don't know why I feel that way either Like a big number to me I think what the eff is trying to point out is this problem this Problem may be small, but it's getting bigger and maybe we should nip it in the bud before it becomes a bigger problem And they're not yeah, they're not yeah And granted if you're if you're not from the u.s. And you're like wait is my device going to get searched it could Again chances are it won't the predominance of the chances would again a million per day 33 000 searched in the highest year yet Uh It's 33 000 searched over a year. It's a pretty small percentage, but the question isn't how often is it happening really? The question is should it happen at all? Should they need a warrant And I think they well, I don't know if they do or not I'll tell you this this is a little unrelated, but I got to the tsa2 and from anaheim last year with a pocket knife in my bag That I had forgotten about that's not border. That's not border. I know I know it's not I shouldn't be able to get a knife through the freaking tsa is my point tom That's like saying, you know, the u.s. Military has drones, but I was speeding the other day like I know That's why I said I'm related. I'm just saying it's not that unrelated. It's supposed to be security reasons And they're bad at entirely different agencies doing entirely different things No, but I mean but your point scott. I mean, yeah, there have been times where I mean I don't think I travel with knives that I know of but you know I travel with a lot of podcasting equipment that confuses tsa and like most of the time they're like, all right We're talking about the tsa that doesn't vary in any way on the customs and border patrol agents Well, all right Yeah, I mean we're the only reason I'm making a big deal about this is we're not talking about searches Like pat downs looking for knives. We're talking about customs and border patrol saying do you have a phone on you hand it over Right, you're not going through a metal detector. You're you're not like Have a list of things that like make sure you don't have this in your bag. This isn't that at all This is uh, I've decided that maybe you're suspicious. Maybe you're a journalist and I don't like it Uh, so please give me your phone and I want to copy all the data off But that's not something the tsa is gonna do Sure, but um, when you're talking about going through Some sort of metal detector and and you're saying in this case not not the case Okay, well if I'm a nasa engineer and I have uh, a data that's that's very important And somebody doesn't see it You know, what what happens then? Well, they can search through your bags at customs, right? Sure But it's not a metal detector situation And so what the nasa engineer was doing was trying to cooperate and be like, hey, you know what? I just want to do what I need to do to get back in the country I ate an avocado in las vegas last week Nothing to do with this I'll say Was it an indian avocado? No, it wasn't it looked like you know what it actually looked like It looked like one of denaris's eggs from the game of thrones if you want the truth It looked like one of those I only ask because our next story is about india Oh, well, let's talk about it. India is taking over. Uh, excuse me taking over the lead from china in fintech funding Total value of the funding rounds in china dropped 87.56 percent year over year from 1.54 billion to 192.1 million Meanwhile india saw a record 286 million fintech investments overall fintech investments in asia fell to a five quarter low kind of interesting right You know granted the bigger story here is that fintech investments in general in asia have fallen quite a bit because china had 1.54 billion last year and india now has the biggest at 286 million but it also means that that india is holding against that trend which I I think with all the payments Processing as such an important factor in india right now. I think that's that that is very noteworthy Well on the subject somewhat apple q2 revenue fell five percent, but still beat expectations international sales accounted for 61 of revenue and services reached an all-time high of 11.5 Billion dollars which apple says accounts for one third of gross profits iphone and mac revenue fell but ipad revenue rose iphone revenue accounts for 53.5 of apples total Not super surprising down from 61.4 percent a year ago So it's still over half tim cook said that apple wearables also grew to 50 percent Yeah, so the the important part is apple wants iphone revenue as a share of apple's total to go down They want to be able to tell people we're not entirely relying on iphone's because then if the iphone market just plummets They're not messed up. So two things important here one is wearables growing close to 50 percent Is good growth you want to see air pods watches sell in larger and larger numbers We just found out right before the show that fitbit had a great revenue, which means wearables are on the rise So so a great revenue earnings report. So that's good And the other thing is seeing services as a third of gross profits now 11.5 billion is nothing to sneeze at it's still Not like all the services they have still don't really uh make up for iphone revenue But at least it's headed in the right right direction. So my summary here is Apple's earnings report not good enough for you to say apple is safe But not bad enough to say that apple's in trouble Yeah, fair enough. Also, it's cool to see ipad revenue on the rise I'm a little bit biased right now because I think it's the best art tool in the business and artists are loving it and uh, that's I don't think that's the reason necessarily for that rise But it's a selfish reason because it means that's a help I I think it probably is it might be. Yeah, it might be I mean, also, there's a lot of choice now on that line that there didn't used to be You can kind of get one that fits your needs the best and also there's a good price range For those who are trying to be a little uh less spendy and also there's sort of top end. So I think they're just handling the tablet market for what it is They're handling it better than they have in the past and that's really good for guys like me who have found uh You know found a reason for that thing to exist in their lives. So good for them Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com Now, uh, interesting story from recode today and also republished on vox.com that idc Estimates team collaborative apps is a 3.5 billion market set to grow 70% in the next three years And this could be bad for productivity By team collaborative apps, we mean microsoft teams slack Google hangouts meet google hangouts chat facebook workplace any of these Systems that are designed to replace email so that you don't have to waste your time with email We've made things better by giving you slack or teams or workplace All agree these apps should improve productivity But recodes ronnie mola notes that those hopes seem right now similar to open floor plans Which by the way, everybody has started to realize open floor plans don't help productivity But the idea with an open floor plan was oh, we'll break down hierarchies We'll spark chance interactions and innovations and that's kind of what slack and the like are supposed to do Company called time is limited estimates that employees at large companies send more than 200 messages per day And that power uses of these collaborative apps can send a thousand or more messages a day, and that's additive not replacing In some ways team software has sucked out some of the frivolous communication emojis and memes and stuff Leaving email the place for thoughtful communication, but essentially The same amount of communication is happening rescue time says chat is now the second most common computer activity after email And the total time spent communicating has remained the same over the past six years worth noting here that distractions like notifications that you've got a slack message reduce your productivity Because it takes time to return from a distraction And get back to work that multitasking has basically been shown to be a myth That at best it's equal to not multitasking if people who are really good at it And for most people multitasking makes you worse at a job because you can't focus So what are the solutions? Well microsoft is adding some templates to optimize teams uh slack kind of nudges you to be uh optimizing your settings if it notices some behavior But it could be better at that But basically workplace culture and training are the things that are missing The workplace culture demands that you respond to these things and you're never trained on how to reuse them responsibly Sarah pack founder and executive director of startup pregnant Uh is quoted in this recode article is saying we don't have a technology problem We have a boundary problem.  It's uh I feel like it came it came around and I was on board. I went. Oh, this is a cool idea This means I'll spend less time emails It's like the world we're gonna change in the right direction and and it kind of does in some ways What I have is nice organized collaborative chat rooms really is what I've got now And those are great because if everyone's paying attention and on board, especially if they're all there at the same time That's a great way to get stuff done because we're all paying attention. We're looking. We're listening But if there's chunks of time between when you respond like email It's not much better than email And so what I found is email is still a thing and in fact for the more official stuff I do it's almost always email And then the work stuff I do is on slack So I've just got this other avenue to communicate with those I have to work with or need to work with And I don't actually save any time if anything I've just I've made it possible for me to do more and that's often what we do You know, I was saying earlier before the show back in the day when uh lotus one two three happened Every accountant on the planet thought this is the death of our industry We are going to have to get new jobs What a waste of a CPA degree that we got blah blah blah and the opposite happened it created so many new jobs And most people who had one kept them and it just meant we had more to do now and we get to it faster and more of it so This is a microcosmic version of that, but I think that's what this is and at least that's how it's affecting me Yeah, you know, it's it's funny, you know for for our purposes on dts. We we have a slack channel We use it regularly. It's a very very helpful That's where I know everyone's going to be if someone's little green dot is not, you know If if it's not green, I know like okay. Well, they might be away, but they'll be back pretty soon And you know, so we we've made it work for us. It is a very good collaboration tool However, it's also a lot of you know, there you know, there's like the ha ha giffy stuff um, which I am a total um, like, you know, I I'm I'm uh Well versed in in how silly that is but you know, it makes everybody laugh It's it's sort of a glorified texting tool for them for the most part Yes, you can share files. You can you know, talk to folks and it's real time and the whole thing but it is It feels to me like all right. It's a little instant messenger, but just like cooler Yeah, you also get like channel fatigue People talk about having 80 channels somebody. Yeah, rich truffle, you know Who does daily tech headlines said that uh, one of the companies he contracts with Has an 80 channel slack and he's expected to keep up on all of them Which is that's insane. I mean Nobody could do that What's crazy about that is it's not only insane Slack doesn't let you delete those channels in any sort of easy way. I don't know if you guys have ever tried this You can hide your channel. Yeah, it's horrendous how you have to get rid of a channel So that's just slack. I know others do it differently and we could have conversations about all of their ups and downs But 80 is crazy. You've got you've got to like I don't know 10 is crazy But like back to your your point scott about you know, how you know, uh slack was and and again, we're using slack as as as uh, uh and uh obvious, uh um Uh, they're the leader. So it's easy, right. Yeah, exactly. You know went public Everyone's talking about slack right now, but the idea that it was sort of like replacing email However, and this just happened to me the other day where I had Something that was you know, it was it's kind of important that I had to deliver to somebody And I could have delivered it on slack, but I was like, well email is just like more official So we're I I feel like it's there is no replacement of email It's more of just like slack is where a lot of stuff happens But email is still like the king in certain situations Yeah, I I said this when we were prepping for the show, but it reminds me of freeways where People say, oh, there's too much traffic on the freeways. We need to add some lanes They add some lanes and more traffic uses the freeway because there are more lanes now Like it doesn't solve congestion and increases traffic. That's a that's a proven thing It also reminds me of spam because it doesn't cost anything to send any of these messages So when you're using email and slack and you have two different ways, you might use both of them You might communicate twice as much because it doesn't cost you anything but time to do it And there's a lack of visual cues. I get where slack is like, oh, it's immediate That's different than email Email somebody doesn't respond to but I want somebody to respond to you right away Whereas if you're in an office, you'd walk up and if you saw the door was closed Or you saw that the person was really busy You might hold off and wait until they were free to interrupt them Whereas with slack you can't see that so you're just interrupting them all the time And I think it's absolutely right that we need to learn How to use these tools and how how to know when it's proper to use them How to know properly how to respond to them when to have notifications on when to have notifications off I flatter ourselves that we use it pretty responsibly on dts But I think even we could probably learn some things from from just the general intelligence About what are the best practices? It's weird because I feel like it is going It's going the direction of that open air office thing that turned out to be not so great Yeah, it'll have to be dialed back because right now slack is sort of like come on in Use it how you want to we got these cool plugins, but you don't need them if you don't want like we're all just here Like they're that attitude is great because it means we can sandbox for a while But I do think we're getting to the point where we're going to have to start Putting borders and figuring out what those borders are Yeah, for sure Thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories about slack or other workplace apps or anything else that you like and then vote on others at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com We're also on facebook facebook dot com slash groups slash dillie tech news show What's in the mailbag sara cori in boston wrote in cori works in application security and code analysis for large contractors and reminds us The uk's wall way oversight committee published a 46 page report this year Cori says I read it with details of their multiple years of code and architectural reviews The first is that the committee did not find evidence of intentional backdoors. However, they raised specific Articulate concerns about how downright terrible the wall by code was to report details out of support libraries with known Vulnerabilities extensive unsafe memory handling different firmware versions on the same hardware And all functions that allow for buffer overflow attacks on top of all of these numerous Literally several hundred as cori says problems while they largely did not fix the issues that the technical auditors found Last year or even the year before that They're simply not improving even with independent auditors giving them specific directions. So cori says tldr no malicious backdoors Purifiably bad software practices and companies absolutely should not use wall way network infrastructure It's not worth the risk crappy code is just as bad as malicious code if you're trying to protect your networks Yeah, we actually talked about this when that report came out with justin robert young, uh, I believe on the show and Uh, our our you know, I I can't remember was our title for that show or if it was just the joke We were kicking around but we were basically saying like wall way Maybe or maybe not spying but definitely not very good at making this stuff So, uh, thanks for the reminder cori. That's good stuff Absolutely, and thanks also to scott johnson for being with us two days scott What has been going on with you?  It was nice to see some dts fans there as well Tom and air will there had a great time and always have fun with this community Looking forward to whatever we do in the future. So a huge thanks for that Uh, these days I'm just kind of catching up after being gone for so long and looking forward to my next sit down With patrick beija for an episode of mvgb. That's the monthly video game briefing Which he and I record on a monthly basis and it's awesome If you are a part-time gamer or somebody who's just interested in the world of gaming and wants to know What's happening out there without being some sort of hardcore player yourself? That's what that show is and you can find it over at frogpants.com slash mvgb And I hope you do it's really good. Hey, it's may 1st Thank you patrons for supporting us on patreon We did not get our one more than last month this month, but we'll try again this month And there's still lots of great things that you can get In fact, we we don't mention it as much recently But if you stick as a patreon supporter at dts for three months at the master or advisor level You get a perk bunch people have already got those perks. It's a mug at the $50 level or it's a poster At the $30 level and those posters and mugs have been drifting out there. You may have seen some pictures on twitter So if you can upgrade if you can afford to support us You get a few other perks as well that are detailed there like special episodes and the like And you can also be in the running for a mug if you stick at that level for three months You can find out more about that at patreon.com slash dts slash merch And if you have feedback for us our email address is feedback at daily tech news show dot com We're also live monday through friday at 4 30 p.m. Eastern 20 30 utc find out more and tell a friend at daily tech news show dot com slash live Back tomorrow with justin robber young talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frog pants dot com Hope you have enjoyed this program Whoo, whoo. I'm gonna slack you all to tell you it was a good show. Oh good Good don't email me though. That's an old way. Yeah, no don't do that I like that. We almost got to the point where we're like, ah email the old-fashioned way I appreciate getting a good email the way people used to talk about appreciating getting a letter, you know Yeah, yeah It is Well, like I I really do sometimes feel like oh when I get an email now. I'm like, okay. They really mean it Yeah, yeah, but whatever. Yeah, like whatever the is being conveyed is like this is Yeah, an emoji or a meme We're right. Yeah Yeah, uh, so we have data of the dead That's our leading title suggestion That's not tracking Oh, I like that one. That was pretty good.  I can't figure it out. I gotta buy new ones Ooh, this one's not bad slack luster Oh Like that one epic slacking is another good one Cut me some slack Uh, slack is for slow. Oh, I got a lot of slack ones in here. Um It's good. It's orders around apps I also feel like I mean, it's not really it's sort of beside the point, but it's called slack You know, like like we're we're so used to using it at this point. It's like the the I mean the name of the program is slack slack Yeah, it's the irony isn't lost on me either I like the audience who like the there's equal irony over on discord, which I meant to actually bring up it I didn't but discord is becoming this very community driven thing that I must use for shows um For all of them and in separate ways and stuff and The irony of that name is not lost on me because you're supposed to providing a good healthy communication But it's called discord Yeah There's there's a funny connection to sort of alternative Uh alternative press classics of the 70s and 80s slack was Like a main component of the church of the sub genius I don't know if you guys have ever run into that Uh, but slack was sort of their mystical thing that you were always cultivating in the church of subgenius And discord Always reminds me of the principia discordia by mal eclipse the younger which was this this kind of cool like alt press thing In the 70s that inspired the illuminati trilogy by robert anton wilson. So this whole subculture Connection, I don't know how much of it is intentional how much of it is just coincidence, but I like a good conspiracy. So i'm going down. Yeah. Yeah, uh, so stop slacking or slackluster I like slackluster personally same. All right Okay, one more choice then because mdta uk submitted, uh, both a version that's spelled t er and a version spelled t re Oh Oh Yeah, all right. Yeah very america. This is america tom No metric system situation Come on. It's the metric spelling out of here. Uh, so kill a slackluster All right, uh, anything anything for a good day internet Excites the senses Data of the dead Kind of like that data of the dead, I mean i'm i'm so everything Everything in my life is like based on like game of thrones memes. So i'm like data of the dead. That sounds good Yeah, white walkers got it got it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah Love it nailed it So, uh, if you watch our videos and you like watching them live particularly, uh, the uh, the old, uh, twitch tests have been going on and we have another one coming up On When is it is it a friday? I think Friday the 10th Yeah, friday may 10th. We'll be testing our our twitch live. We've been doing them on mondays But the we're going to be doing this one next one on on a friday So friday the 10th, uh, twitch.tv slash good day internet if you want to Take a look at that and a lot of people have been wondering like wait, which days do you stream on twitch and what you don't It's all tests right now. So it kind of is just going to change around but the idea is hopefully by june We'll be ready to to flip the switch and and do our live streaming in uh in twitch. So so mark your calendars Very nice Nice lead up. I like yeah, just circle the entire month of june.  Also, we got a hot blooded thing going on. I heard roger doing uh, so yeah And then you can see anything it's like hot soup I'm sorry. Who did we uh, uh realize saying that for foreigners from foreigners. Is it from the album four? No No, it's from it'll take so Okay, so the name for a girl is is another what and like for her had quite a few hits right double vision my my apologies There's no one that's one of the hits right there. It's one of the hits I feel like that was a burger king commercial at one point Hot blooded hot burgers. No double vision double vision like double vision. You'd see a double burger. Yeah, I remember this too I haven't yeah, yeah, yeah Sarah's not wrong but it's also like I you know, I I I assume and perhaps incorrectly that everybody in the group foreigner was American so what like where where do you kind of go like, you know what that's it We're you know, everyone in the band Asia wasn't Asian Well, exactly, right?  There's a band named Missouri Mara. Yep. Can't just blowing of the wind. Oh, we are Love that song wonderful song. I was like prog rock Moving on is the Because because you don't want unprogressive rock. No, you know, I mean prog rock I mean progressive rock was a very specific genre, right? Missouri Would we call that progressive rock? I don't think so. I don't know classic rock classic rock. Yeah Yeah, just like new waves What is progressive rock like what's progressive? How are we progressing? I thought the progressive was the progression of start out small and ended up really wall of sound by the end Do I have that? Oh I never thought of it that way Progressive rock or this is according to wikipedia is a broad genre of rock music that developed in the uk and united states from the mid 60s forward The term Was related to the style which was an outgrowth of psychedelic bands who abandoned standard pop traditions In favor instrumentation and compositional techniques more frequently associated with jazz folk or classical music Yeah, so I I was thought it was it was a reference to which I never understood really but a reference to Some sort of like We're we have progressed beyond classic rock Well, I mean additional elements include lyrics that were more poetic technology That was harnessed for new sounds and the music that approached the condition of art In the studio rather than the stage became the focus of musical activity So what does where does where does a rush fit into this prog rock? I would call them prog rock. Yeah. Yeah Either way, we'll still uh, I I just want to interject this for those who are wondering We will still upload our videos to youtube the youtube channel and daily tech news show is not going away I see a few people panicked about that. It's only the live that would switch to twitch in june As for progressive rock. Yeah, I mean Op had a formula if you were against the floor formula. You were being more progressive about music. That's how I always took it Well, yeah, I think I have it wrong. I thought it was like a specific structure of song I mean, I might there might be something to that too It's on there goes my maserati goes 180 fine. I can't think of the name of the guy. It's rush Oh, no, you're thinking I know I know I used to think Yeah, but then it got And I got like really weird Oh, is it uh, not done Henley not done Henley. Oh, no. No, thank you theater monkey. Joe Walsh. Joe Walsh I thought that song I thought that song rock. I thought that song was totally prog rock Um, that was a great song. It is a great song. Yes. And yeah, very much not rush, but uh, but It was odd It was an odd song It's the kind of song where people everyone's like, I don't know who sings that without the internet would be able to Answer that question. No, we used to there used to be that one guy you would always go to he would either be at the counter of the coffee shop in a bar or just like one of those Uh guys who just mill around a record store, but they would have an encyclopedic encyclopedic knowledge of music Yeah, other names for progressive rock are art rock or symphonic rock. So I think rock Yeah, that that indicates that it's it's about changing up the formula and doing things that are unexpected Well, I liked the song like that Joe Walsh song the reason I like it is it feels like it's telling me this Story story and then it has like emotional dips and highs that you don't at least it's not considered progressive rock But yeah, I think you're right, but I it's something else then and I don't know what to call it But I love that kind of music and rush did it pink floyd did that a lot Um, I don't know what years in chicago early moody blues. Yeah, there's something Something there that I don't know what to call it, but I love it king crimson king crimson King crimson What I don't know You don't know king crimson. No, I know that I know the crimson king from uh from the dark tower series Oh, no king crimson is definitely what I think of what I think of art rock Really? Yeah. All right. Um, the joe walsh Uh, uh song um where he says like I go to party stay until four like like the first time I heard it I was like stand still four It's really late He can't leave because you can't find the door or I'm like that's a little horrible party Don't you have somewhere to be tomorrow or a dead morning? Like look you have a job Yeah, like get out get out of there That's that's the one phrase that owes and I had my head spinning is where someone to ask you don't you have somewhere to be? Like what is that As all those chords I expect What does bluestar cult come in as? Oh, they're like they're like very classic rock. Yeah, they've got some prog rock Feel to them, but I think that I just think it's weird because they did a song about godzilla Yeah, and that's how it's stuck to like I guess. Yeah pink floyd is definitely prog rock They're hard rock heavy metal a cult. Oh a cult rock. I've never heard of that Rock and oh, yeah. No shanago's got it. Yeah emerson lincoln palmer Sure who's saying What who's saying?  Uh-huh Uh, I'm trying to remember any of the names of their songs because I I I know the I I know them, but I I can't think of like the big hit But there is one I can't either I remember they they reformed as emerson lincoln pal in the 80s and had a hit But that is not their big hit That sounds like a british like electronics company from the beginning fanfare for the common man Lucky man Who's there emerson lincoln pal? I just remember because I it was one of those things where I found out about emerson lincoln pal Because I was a kid and top 40 music and all of that uh And then uh, I remember older people being like emerson lincoln pal. Oh, no, that's like a pale limitation Emerson lincoln palmer Just somebody got swapped out type thing. Yeah, but as you might expect it was palmer for pal right No, it's like star jefferson aeroplane and aeroplane and Starship Starship was worse. They're the worst, but jefferson aeroplane was cool Yeah, the jefferson I don't know that's on 80s man emerson lincoln pal Jefferson starship was I still think the poster poster child of celina becoming a corporate rock band A friend of mine her dad was in a it was sort of a local Band, you know, they played it like bars around, you know, where we lived You know, it's kind of a dad band. Yeah. Um, and you know, it was always, you know 10 people who might might be in there and we were all too young to even go because they were bars But he was obsessed with the band. Yes. Oh, I love. Yes. Yeah. Yeah Classic example of frog rock for sure Total frog rock.  Well, they did. Uh, they were well known for their album covers because it was always like this weird airbrushed kind of fantasy or New agey feel but they also did the soundtrack Or gave music that they had licensed to The guys who created homeworld that rts space rts Oh, yeah Oh, I love the ladder Ladder, it's it's a it's a song to the game Yeah, it's the um, it's based on a classical song. All right, like, um, I think so I know this adagio for strings by Well, that's the the opening but like at the end during the chris when they play the song It's it's a yes song right right and um, no, it's just oh, it's actually that's one thing that struck to struck me is how many Bands over the years have length that are soundtracks like will score music for a game Uh, because like ever since trend res resner with was a quake quake quake one Where everyone's like, yeah, this this seems like a cool thing to do and doesn't seem too Too gimmicky To say goodbye to the video folks. Well, I guess it's not too cool for the video folks, but um It doesn't think we have to yeah, you know depends On the video at least acknowledge that we're saying goodbye to be polite about that And to let the audio folks to stick around there's more to come more to come