Mike, how are we doing, brother? Great, Chris, great. Thanks for the chance to chat with you and for your guests to be here and hopefully we can figure out what's going on in this current piece of tragic theatre. Yeah, well it's my pleasure to have you on the show, Mike. Friends at home, Mike's been on the show twice before. Mike is a man of many hats and most of them are pretty astounding. Going back to Mike's earlier days, Mike was a paratrooper in the Falklands War. He was a parasygna to be exact for those military buffs out there. Mike has gone on to be one of the world's most expert at base jumping. Got a few world records including being the first person to jump off the Empire State Building. It's billed as the strangest day at the Empire State Building since King Kong and Bill Blakemore has the story. On the 86th floor observation deck of the Empire State Building this morning, under that man's raincoat, the slight bulge is a parachute. He and his partner climbed the obstacles, hitched their ripcords to the building and they'd planned it for several months, knew they'd be able to clear the old skyscraper's ledges, floated briefly above the city and landed two blocks south on Fifth Avenue where one of their tipped off camera crews waited. Alistair Boyd who comes from London then got away. His fellow countryman Michael McCarthy however was still trying to untangle his shoot from the lamppost when... First he said he was filming a James Bond movie. Then after a few minutes he told us the truth. Later at the police station... This has made it actually being sort of arrested for the whole thing. It's made it really good fun. The guys inside were incredible. They couldn't believe it. They didn't treat me as a criminal at all. They did charge McCarthy with reckless endangerment and putting on an exhibition without a permit. McCarthy said their biggest concerns weren't with the jump itself but the chance of getting mugged when they landed or run over by a... Not a man who's not been arrested a few times. For the base jump in I mean. Mike's also been an international journalist and I'm sure a few other and Mike's hats will come out as we chat. But Mike I wanted you on the show today because I think it will be reaffirming for a lot of people out there that have started to figure out this narrative. Or possibly they... You know like many of us they've been on to it for the last 20 years. Also it's a particular concern because if people are going to volunteer their services in Ukraine you could end up dead. And no disrespect but that wouldn't be my issue. My issue would be if you're leaving children behind it's terribly... It's a terrible burden for any child to grow up without a parent. And hopefully what we can discuss today will give people a view on what is going on globally, holistically so that those who do decide to go and fight will be able to at least make an informed decision. And possibly some will decide not to go. So Mike, oh my gosh. So we're going to refer to the last 24 months of nonsense as just that. Got a feeling our friends in the KM will pop up. KM folks is a certain mafia which whether you believe they exist or not is quite a good general term really I think to describe the culprits behind global events. They are a secret network of international pirates who identify with no nation, no national flag and no established religion. Their flag is the skull and crossbones and God, G-O-D, spells gold, oil and drugs. Anyway Mike, I'm saying enough already what the hell is going on in Ukraine. Right, so where to start? I think a good foundation for people if they're not interested in reading books all of the stones documentary Ukraine on Fire is it's back on YouTube now. But there was so much something just happened there. Anyway, so I think a good background foundational piece of work is where I don't think he actually made it but he certainly featured in it Oliver Stone and the documentary Ukraine on Fire. It's pretty good. Can I make a point there Mike? There were two documentaries Ukraine on Fire and also Winter on Fire. One of them was a fairly honest expose of what went on to a point because you're never going to get the whole truth in a commercial documentary. The other one got heavily criticised for conveniently managing to gloss over all the right wing flags that were up and running and also the role that the right wing played in overthrowing the government managed to completely cut that out of all from what I remember out of all their documentary whereas Oliver Stone's documentary where he actually sat down with President Putin and asked his thoughts on Ukraine it was a far more honest expose just to further emphasise what's going on here friends is guess which one got a write-up on Wikipedia? Yes, of course, not the one that was the one that covered a lot of stuff up. Sorry Mike. Yeah, so anyway, so those are good and I just, I mean if people could grab a pencil and pad as well so I'm just going to sort of channel so I'm not sure what's going to come through but yeah, so I think it's good. Reading books and essays is I think essential at these times and we are very much under attack and have been for a very, very long time not just the British Isles but the whole of Europe and America and how whole Western civilisation really and so what's going on in Ukraine is just a continuation of that tragic theatre that we've been living our whole lives we've been socially engineered into believing so many false things and which it's really picking up a pace in this last decade I think useful sites, there's a guy called Ron Unes where I used to live in California I'm now back in my ancestral homeland of Ireland but I used to live in Palo Alto which is in Silicon Valley I spent seven years in Silicon Valley and there's a guy there called Ron Unes a Jewish gentleman he made quite a bit of money in Silicon Valley I didn't but he started a website Unz.com UniformNovemberZulu.com it's very, very good you learn a lot just from the people who leave comments on there but I think that's maybe the best site for genuine investigative journalism so Ron's doing brilliant work with Unz.com and I'd said a daily view and scan of articles on there would be quite good and there's so many good people covering this current madness up in the Ukraine Andrew Joyce has done some good work and so he's on there as well if you just put in Andrew Joyce he's a Scottish professor he's very useful Philip Geralde's done some good work and another one who I've been in touch with for over 20 years ever since just after 9-11 when I was living in Silicon Valley I was working there as a pilot I wasn't flying in Silicon Valley but I was living there based there so HenryMachow.com is also very good so he's a Jewish guy from Canada brilliant these great Jews are truly being a light unto the nations but not all of them are sadly but yeah but Ron Onnes and Henry Machow so Henry Machow is H-E-N-R-Y-M-A-K-O-W.com and so Henry's good and worth a daily view he only puts up one article a day but very very useful I think other useful people would be well there's a great book called Facts Are Facts by Benjamin Friedman another Jewish gentleman and that's an essential reading Facts Are Facts and that helps you kind of understand the people behind Zelensky and some of the people around Putin what happened in 1991 the alleged collapse of the Soviet Union a lot of these oligarchs came in under Yeltsin and basically stole the country and so some of these people are behind Putin as well I think Putin's maybe in a circle seems to be lesser than these days and seems to be more ethnic Russian and my links with Russia I've done a few trips to Russia really and I've been interviewed by the KGB back in 1991 that was a couple of months before the alleged collapse of the Soviet Union I was over there on an international kind of a mini world championships a skydiving competition and I was actually a member of the Australian national team and we were training with the Russian four-way team and we weren't really a threat to them they were a better skydiving team we were pretty good but not kind of in their league they were one of the best teams in the world at the time and so we trained with them anyway I got accused of doing some foreign money exchange with the Russian team and I got pulled in by the KGB and interviewed for two days and I was eventually rescued by the head of the Russian Air Force and so that was anyway so since then through the skydiving world I've got some good Russian contacts so I can get some good information but yeah so anyway so facts are facts it's an essential read and Russia's great I've done a couple of trips since 1991 and I had great experiences Mike can I just have to interrupt you there's some cluttery noise just covering up what you're saying is it you touching the table or something there's something near your microphone and it's coming over the headphones just if you can try and keep still that'd be ace okay and yeah so that was back in 1991 so you know he's ex KGB he's an interesting man to study he was raised by a single parent his then stepfather who came in on the scene kind of abused him he was put up for adoption raised by a Jewish family so he's been kind of shepherded his whole life into this position and has he turned against the deep state we don't know we don't know the mind of Vladimir Putin but the the new conservatives you know pushing for this kind of NATO expansion were definitely I guess the catalyst for this for this war and you know then the whole NATO thing has really always been about sort of keeping Russia out I mean Putin actually wanted to join NATO but was refused and so NATO's always been about keeping America in Russia out in Germany down and the big fear is you know the unification but Russia and Germany working closer together and that's not allowed in the eyes of these these new conservatives and you know the First World War, Second World War all this stuff was rigged but the understanding the new conservatives as well I mean I got deported from America in 2009 or 2008 I think but I worked for US congressmen and presidential candidate and the new conservatives are Trotskyists if you study the new conservative movement they are communists deeply and of the of the the most yeah the darkest kind so that's new conservatism is Trotsky and Trotsky was all about perpetual war and that was the fallout with him and Stalin you know Trotsky wanted to go worldwide with it so yeah that's so the British military really is just a tool just kind of Trotskyist agenda Mike on that subject just bear with me I just want to play our friends at home your introduction video because I didn't do that at the beginning I'm just going to do it now before we get too far in bear with me there we go sorry Mike you've got such a spectacular introduction video that I want to get our money's worth out of it so we're talking about the military won't we yeah just the new conservatives yeah and being Trotskyists I think that's important to understand who Trotsky was and who the new conservatives are they got us into these illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and that too our great British military and other militaries of the world are truly serving and so this stuff should be standard knowledge with all British serving NCOs and the officer class or everyone really but certainly the officers and the NCOs and just another essential read this is such an important book New Lies for Old and New Lies for Old by Anatoly Galitsin this is a brilliant book and I read this just after 9-11 it was written in I think 1984 a brilliant book published in 1984 and maybe the the best or I guess the greatest spy that came out of the KGB and flipped over to the west and just read that book New Lies for Old and Lenin Vladimir Putin was born in the town where Vladimir Lenin came from and so they gave him the name maybe because they wanted him to be a new Lenin I don't know but Lenin said that eventually they would pretend that communism is all about deception and that's where you get into the mystery school roots of communism communism wasn't a Russian idea but Lenin said that we'll eventually pretend that communism is collapsed and that's what they've done in 1991 and it just expanded and so the creation of the European Union was a Soviet thing and now it's central government so all nations in Europe they're no longer sovereign and then what used to be part of the Soviet Union and many of these Eastern European countries are now in the European Union and the commanding heights, the political class of these nations now European nations are still devoted to their communist and Marxist ideas and that's what the European Union is and so this whole creation of this multicultural multi-racial, multi-religious and multi-degenerate society is an attack on Europe and it will collapse Europe Europe is in the West is collapsing and I think other stuff to really understand what's going on in Ukraine as well and I sent you some links to it as well and this was something in the early 19... I think 1904 he put this out there and that's what we're living is the Mekinda's Heartland theory these are just... this is the background stuff so understanding Galitsyn's work Galitsyn's work so I think having a foundational knowledge in some of this stuff helps you kind of see through the absolute fake news and the BBC was created to be part of the destruction of our civilization and I've shot video for the BBC as well yeah that's just awful and the whole political class so the criminal class has taken over and that's undeniable and I dealings with all sorts of politicians I've worked for one and they're sociopaths they're incredible actors they do not care they could be compromised you bribe the rich or you bribe the poor and you blackmail the rich so a lot of these people are compromised they're hungry for money and power their main concern is re-election so they certainly... the people of Europe are not represented by people who deeply care about them as Europeans and certainly on these islands the English, the Welsh, the Scottish and the Irish they are not represented by the military, they don't have a government they don't have a media they are absolutely... if you look at the data and actually look at the laws they are second class citizens in their own ancestral homelands and no one's coming to save them so I think it is time to wake up and I think with love, truth and better ideas bringing to light how corrupt all of this is and how tragedy it is for the people of Ukraine and what they've done the architects of this these godless people and Benjamin Friedman in his book Facts Are Facts will help you understand who these people are but what they've done they've managed yet again the First World War and the Second World War they've managed to get Christians killing Christians so you've got Orthodox Christians in Ukraine killing Orthodox Christians in Russia and so they've managed to do that and they've been doing that for the last 18 years or sorry, last 8 years I think 14,000 have been killed where was the media when this was going on and so they've got all these men doing this they've stopped the men from leaving the country but they've managed to shift all the women and the children out of the country and many of them will be trafficked and that's a real issue as well and friends of mine are kind of involved with trying to save some of these women but the price on a white woman's head is very high so European women are a commodity now and so by pushing them all into Europe many of these women are going to be disappeared and they will be trafficked and so that's another thing I haven't seen any of the media talk about and that's a real thing and so there's just so much it's not that complex can we I find it useful to think of all this as a timeline and of course the central element of control the first MO before the fear, before the division etc etc is the money system Mike isn't it there you go Babylonian way, that's another essential read but it's and it goes back to scripture and all the churches Archbishop Vigano that's another really good person to look into he's maybe one of the few Catholics who are being Christ like and telling the truth and that's what a big part of Christianity is it's about be Christ like and tell the truth with love in your heart but don't back down and be fearless and that's what you're doing Chris, you are in that way Christ like because you don't do it with hate for anyone but just expose what's really going on the truth will set you free is great and so he's just published a letter recently it's quite lengthy but it's a really good foundation in what's going on and it covers so many aspects and he talks about the stuff that Benjamin Friedman talks about in facts or facts and Galitzin as well in his book New Lies for Old but Christ Christ's last public speech before he was arrested was Matthew 23 and that's what the church would sound like just read Matthew 23 and so he covers everything Mike I'm going to interrupt and fill people in with a lot of background because they're getting a lot of names here but they don't know what to apply it to so Matthew 23 that's the speech that is commonly referred to as when Jesus threw the moneylenders out of the temple or he lectured the Pharisees the sort of upper class of Jewish society saying that basically life is worth so much more than putting people in debt it was an angry speech and it was the straw that broke the camel's back he was then arrested shortly after that but it's brilliant and it covers you could make that speech for so much that's gone on in the last century but all the churches have been infiltrated and I think in all instances they are a Trojan horse for the Babylonian world, all the churches are but I think there's always been that mystical body within the churches that is still pushing for the truth and so throughout time but the Christian faith is about that it's not about going around killing people in our Lord's holy name which sadly the kind of Christian Zionism does so Christian Zionists are really just a tool of the Babylonian woe and we mustn't confuse the Zionist state of Israel with the nation of Israel, these are very different things and very very different why mate, you need to explain why are they different the Zionism was really just the nation of Israel was founded by Russian speaking Kazarian Jews and the Rothschilds creation in the Middle East the First World War was required to free up some of that land from the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and then you got in 1948 and the creation of the state of Israel and I've got great Jewish friends when I jumped off the Empire State Building I guess the first Jews who became friends the guy that represented me in court was a Jewish guy so I learned a lot about the legal system through him and his circle of friends I was given an apartment overlooking Central Park for a while by a Jewish woman and I've got Israeli friends in Israel my oldest Israeli friend would be he was a paratrooper during the Six Day War I've got some great Jewish friends some of them are believers in God's most of them are secular some are Buddhists and some are Christian I think there's about 30,000 Jews in Israel now that have seen Christ as the Jewish Messiah Israel is full of competing mafia groups I've been in Israel twice I've had absolutely wonderful time I've met some brilliant Israelis really wonderful I have Jewish friends but not because they're Jewish I just like them because they're good people I've worked with them and they are friends but they just happen to be Jewish but I don't they're not radical Zionists Mike I'm always coming from the perspective that the Kazarian Mafries they use other people's religions as a front they're kind of a parasitic and chameleon type people but they're important to they have a death grip on our civilization and I think it's important to understand who these people are they're behind Zelinsky this is Friends at Home this is the Kazarian Matthew we're talking about you've got to separate this from Israel these are very wily characters as we've ascertained from the Babylonian woe they've been in operation for 8000 years when they first corrupted the money supply and now as I say they hide behind religions so we're not talking about a specific set of identity here we're talking about the people in the shadows and the individuals that it is alleged are very much behind the events that we're seeing in the media and of course guess who controls the media it's the KM again all these international institutions the UN was created by these people I've got friends in the UN or one friend who's still with the UN I've even got children of friends of mine in the UN now there are a lot of selfless dedicated people in the UN it's amazing work but it really is just a sophisticated criminal network that's all the UN is and when you look at the UN look what it did to Belgrade the carnage created in Belgrade in the late 90s and all these illegal wars whether it be in Syria, Libya this is all crime massive crime so we do need to create parallel global institutions whether it be the World Health Organization and the UN these are criminal organizations so we do need these parallel global organizations so my passion is to create some of these things I've come up with my 23-point plan which has a really good vision which my Jewish friends and my Japanese and other friends around the world seem to like so I'm just channeling something in all my experience maybe 15 years of covering wars after the Falklands war I left the British Army and got a bit addicted to travelling and filming other people killing each other but not really I wasn't really interested in photography I was interested in going behind the curtain and finding out who are the architects of all of this and realising that mainstream media doesn't want to expose the architects of this because mainstream media is owned like political class by the architects of this destruction so these are mad, mad times these are exciting times and beautiful times because there is a rising awareness but because this whole culture of multiculturalism and kind of a multi-racial, multi-religious, multi-degenerate society really is a defence mechanism of this kind of global oligarchy because it makes us, we're just all kind of fighting amongst ourselves to all being forced to live in the same living space and of course to question that is becoming a criminal offence to have love, truth and better ideas is becoming a criminal offence now and because what we're up against really is about hate, deception and bad ideas and that's what these people represent so it's truly that perpetual battle between I guess the children of the light and the children of the darkness and I'm absolutely confident that it's going to be a struggle but we'll win in the end but we have to have a global vision and I think that's where all these nationalist movements I find are controlled opposition as well because they don't talk about a global vision and they distract people away from the kind of things that we're talking about and so for me the British military is key in all of this since they've been unknowingly and surely maybe the commanding heights knowingly used as tools of these godless, crazy people we need to get some kind of stirring in our own military because we've been maimed and slaughtered enough as a soldier or as a marine but in warfare the victims are the dead and the maimed and the lost and a lot of us warfare affects you and so we have to do what we can to and I love soldiering I totally believe in standing armies but we should only be there to protect our borders and also not only from external threat so I'm very keen about soldiering but it's been misused and you know young men like to fight a lot of us do it's a natural thing I'm raising children so I see it in my own son but old bankers love that fact old bankers love the fact that young men like to fight and so they channel that and they push it in the wrong direction rather than protecting their own civilization and ensuring that all of our nations around the world the representation of the best of our people occupies commanding heights what these old bankers do is they ensure a representation of the worst of our people occupies commanding heights and that's where we're at and what you see in the mainstream media and this propaganda war it's living proof and it's in plain sight yes so I'm just doing a quick recap so we're all on board and heading in the right direction so friends at home we've got the Khazaria mafia kicked out of Khazaria at the turn at the 1000 AD so 1000 years after Christ fled into Europe where over the years they've just developed an MO of hiding behind people's identities and getting their individuals into every single position of power globally their long-term aim or another of their MO's as we've established is controlling the money system so taking a system that was supposed to be a simple system of exchange you scratch my back, I scratch yours, here's a few shells etc etc they've taken that and they've created usury which is money lending and also the fractional reserve banking what it's done essentially is corrupted every single person on earth hence the expression it's more than my job's worth or I don't get paid to do that and the goal the goal that they're going for and folks all this is allegedly I'm just a show host this is not coming from me this is just coming from the books that are all available out there for anybody to read but they're heading for what has been referred to as a new world order and that is a state where there could be three super states in the world three super states created what we're seeing now is a good example of where we're getting a big divide between east and west and this threat from China this threat from Russia might also be the other way round they're trying to bring Russia on board into what all well would have termed Europa and fight against East Asia i.e. China but basically the solution is you dumb down the population year on year on year till you get to the point where you just get a controlled completely controlled population don't ask me why I've got a barcode on my wrist but many of you will know where we're heading and the scenario where there's three super states constantly being played off in the media against each other in this war that either does exist or when it doesn't it creates a constant state of fear fear equals control so sorry mate I just wanted to up to date us and along the line if we go back to 1666 it's where it gets interesting it's where allegedly there was a meeting between the Rothschilds Sabati and Frankis Colt which is a Middle Eastern Colt I'd suggest you read up on and also the Illuminati so high level freemasonry and it's alleged that they came together to come up with this NWO plan so the bankers knew that they couldn't just do it with money the Illuminati knew they couldn't just do it with a secret fraternity with some clever symbolism and both the Illuminati and the bankers realised they couldn't do it without the debauchery that can be created by the Sabati and Frankis Colt hence you're seeing in your media nothing spiritual nothing beautiful in lightning enriching based upon love you're seeing horror you're seeing race and division you're seeing sexual depravity you're constantly being told you're not worthy, you're not a good human being you're too fat, you're too thin, you're too black you haven't got a fast enough car, your job doesn't pay you enough etc etc all this incredibly dark low vibrational stuff that keeps you from ever knowing your true self which is we're all sovereign beings, we're all beautiful creations, we're perfect we don't need for example a big pharmaceutical industry telling us what we shouldn't what we shouldn't do with our bodies etc etc a money system completely controlling our every move and yeah so when Mike's talking about these individuals that as Mike gives the example the military have no clue about whereas our officers should be really gendered up on this information this is essentially what we're looking at what I'll lead on to Mike from what I've just said is how do you think this ties in with the situation in Russia so is Putin well on board with a Kazarian agenda or is he just fighting back as best he can or is he going along with it for the sake of putting on the show yeah it's hard to tell he's KGB I have no idea I hope that he's pushing back against them but it just could be part of the theatre I mean human life is very low on the totem pole for the people that kind of got him into power has he decided has he had an awakening has a hand of God touched him and he's decided to do the right thing for all of humanity yeah obviously a lot of people are praying for him he would be surrounded by a lot of people who truly do have a grasp and sense of the metaphysical we don't know all I can do is continue to pray for him I pray for the Rothschilds I pray for all of these people because they're ruining things and so I'm not going to hate any of them I hate what they do and I've seen their handy work all around the world in the wars I've been to but I'm not going to hate them because this is my life I'm not going to fill my soul with hate and carry that round as baggage but I am going to speak out as long as I can I'm homeschooling my children so my children are having a good grasp on history and what's going on in the world we don't hate these people but we know that their ideas are not good and it's a beautiful world out there but it's been wrecked so I think it's time to take them out of power but how we do that and how we isolate them and restrain them contain and restrain them is something we'll figure out along the way but I remain hopeful but Putin hopefully he's working on the side of good but the whole creation of the rise of China I mean there's Kazarians and other groups within the Jewish community have been in China for a thousand years so they go way back there but Henry Kissinger is important to try and understand as well he was in the Trump White House but he's a massive player in all of this in the collapse of the West so that's a character to understand as well He was Nixon's controller then we had Jared Kushner who was Trump's controller and then as I think I said in my video the other day we had the whole of the neoconservative movement was Bush's controller hence the look of utter shock on his face when they actually went ahead I'm not going to say the incident I'll let those at home have a guess at which incident I'm referring to but his face when it actually happened was one of it so the neocon movement that came up with the think tank project for the new American Century basically a bunch of hawks came up with a paper called Rebuilding America's Defenses we're not getting at the wonderful people of America here folks we're saying this is an infiltration Rebuilding America's Defenses stated in it that America needs an expansion of its military grasp on the world or expansion of military bases which would not happen lest we had a new Pearl Harbor so basically a big attack we can say and that all goes back to the Macinders heartland theory that's why they just had to keep let's explain that for people Mike so it starts with the world island well that's the world island and then there's the Americas and we're living out that theory at the moment and the Belton Road project kind of messed with it but it had to be about America being the dominant power and they still are in some ways in military technology but so much of the technology the West is stolen by Israel a lot of it and then it's given to Russia and it's given to China and so Israel not the nation of Israel it is a problem and then all people in politics kind of know that but how do we prevent them experts have to figure that one out Macinders heartland let's just sum this up for people at home so it's talking about the world island which is Europe, Asia and Africa to get if you think about it because it's all one landmass and Macinda focuses on how would you control global goings on and he talks about a belt the belt of countries which would be so through Southeast Asia coming up through the Middle East into Europe and he talks about the various socioeconomic scenarios of which country would need to do what in order to have global dominance is that in essence controlling all the resources so and in Ukraine and Russia I think now that we're living in the cyber world and the digital world I think Russia and Ukraine is you know to make microchips I think is it palladium is the world source of palladium is just in these countries and so these people have hated Russia for a long time Russia has always been I think Russia is one eighth of the world's surface and Russia is really many different peoples it's a kind of there's many nations really in the same way that India and places like Nigeria these are more than one country but they kind of put a ring around them and just call them Nigerian India so creating internal conflict it's a big part of it as well because that makes them a lot easier to kind of manage because they're all so that's now what's happening to Europe and kind of turn them into police states really so it's just managing the world's resources and it changes over time and then the whole perpetual war thing but it's an insane idea I mean it comes out of the mind of deeply disturbed people that don't love nature I mean they're literally rewriting the human genome and with the GMOs of everything else so they are playing God they've rejected God and so they themselves have become their own messiah so yeah they're a troubled bunch but they have the power right now and they're not going to give up without a fight whoever they are and whoever their assets and puppets are will go along with them but yeah it's looking pretty miserable up in Ukraine and Russia right now but the British military must just be a light unto the world because a lot of this is centered in the city of London it's centered in the financial district so we really the peoples of these islands and because we have been the cannon fodder for this kind of the bankers empire for many centuries and so we really do have an obligation I believe as Scotsman, as Irishman Welshman and Englishman to really come together and blow the whistle on this and find amongst us leaders that really can put this together and round these people up arrest them these people are the criminal of the worst kind and they need to be arrested I believe in truth and reconciliation people shouldn't be allowed to kind of wander the streets for a while and we need to kind of debrief them and they should maybe go and spend a little bit of time up in Hereford and have some of them out this is where your enlightenment comes in because once we establish a global community that's based on love and not greed and power then the tools that the Khazaria mafia used to control us globally will no longer work they won't be relevant people won't seek their knowledge from the BBC news people won't seek eternal happiness paradise by buying a Mercedes all the goalposts will change and this is what we're starting to see with the freedom movement and it won't be a case of what it will be is like a caterpillar emerging into a butterfly as in the state that we're heading towards and it's a beautiful place where we're heading and it's a wonderful time to be alive to be a part of this movement as we're heading to a place where life will take on a new form that is unrecognizable to how we're living now so living in fear intimidation living with a false sense of what is happiness i.e. materialism etc etc being severed from this all important connection with the bigger picture some people will say God some people will say spirit some people will say universe but this bigger thing that's going on and yeah so think caterpillar and butterfly that's where we're going where these tools of control will just become redundant because they won't work on our new psyche with respect to Ukraine then Mike we've got a situation there where it's consistently been influenced by Russia and the west at the same time we've got half the country or at least the east of the country seems fairly happy to be under the cloak of big brother Russia they've got a free trade i think so it kind of goes in there their favour from the working agreements who've got their eye on Europe or some of them it won't be all of them but becoming part of the European Union which if you look back at the days of the iron curtain would have been something a lot of people aspire to you know God well imagine one day we're no longer behind this big wall we can actually be part of the quote unquote free west and this is an ideology I believe that has sort of lingered and having that temptation all that wants in Ukraine of becoming part of Europe and then allowing NATO to come up to Russia's border the KM have purposely created a scenario where Russia had to act Russia simply had to act in the same way if you tried to put let's say nuclear missiles on Cuba America would say Monroe doctrine this isn't happening we've essentially got the same scenario with Putin and he's just said look you've come too far now technically I know geographically this doesn't matter because of the range of missiles but technically the nuclear weapons on his doorstep if NATO so decided so the the poor people of Ukraine I mean poor as in it's a sad situation have been played off on this one Mike haven't they well for a lot the whole once again the European Union is a Soviet plan the creation of it is the European Union is to destroy European nations because they are destroyed you speak to any police officer it is impossible and you're a soldier it's impossible to effectively police and defend a multi-racial, multi-cultural, multi-religious and multi-degenerate society so you can't have that going forward it just doesn't work it always ends in bloodshed and that's the idea and so I'm not for a multi-cultural multi-racial, multi-religious, multi-degenerate society why because I love people you know and I've lived in ethno-state I lived in Japan, 99% Japanese high trust, low crime the opposite is in Europe now it's low trust, high crime that's the civilization that's been forced upon us that the indigenous people of these lands didn't sign up for that they didn't want that and so Ukraine will get that if it joins Europe a lot of people are subjected to social engineering and they're still convinced it's going to be okay and you must be hateful if you don't like that well no I just look at the crime stats there's been a lot of people but we can over a generation we can slowly kind of move forward into something that would be more sustainable and more symbiotic and that's going to take a while but so yeah I mean Eastern I mean Kazaria, that's you know Kiev was on the western side at the western end and Kazaria is being built so maybe when things maybe Mr Rothschild's got some plan for moving his you know pieces around the board a bit more and you know the Zionist agenda will kind of expand and new Kazaria will be built so these Kazars, these Kazarian Martha types can kind of reclaim their ancestral homeland a bit between the Caspian and the Black Sea which is right where the war is now Veterans today Mike did an incredible piece on the Kazaria mafia I'm not here to say how much of it is dead certain or whatever but it was quite deep yeah I haven't been on there for a while, yeah veterans today put out some really good stuff and yeah so there's some really great research out there and I think we just need to get on board with that but yeah I think the bits of Eastern Ukraine will come under Russia they'll negotiate hopefully something peaceful and have a more pro-Russian government less criminal, I mean it's the most corrupt country and the poorest country in Europe Ukraine and of course people like Biden, Hunter Biden and the Clintons and I mean it's just so much corruption in there and so they're trying to cover up all that of course and distract us from that and so it's always the elevation of mediocrity and that's why you have people like Biden in power bless his heart but he's obviously should be in an old people's home somewhere and you know he's not well and certainly just it's tragic really it's a clown world but it's so I know Ukraine should you know it's part of Europe anyway so the European Union is a criminal thing it's a horrible horrible thing I believe in a European or Union or a federation of the European people you know the indigenous people the European people but the European Union is not about that at all it's the enemy of the European people and so you know Ukraine you know look at all these refugees coming from Ukraine let's say it as it is Mike we're seeing the destruction of Europe as we used to know it and that was quite a while back now we're seeing mass immigration off for all of this conflict so now with Ukraine we're seeing the lack of individual you know identity in these nations through one currency for example you no longer get you know individual banknotes you know coming coming from the country you just get the Euro we've got we're building now and this is another what's happening Mike in Ukraine is it's another push towards suggesting the need for a European army so even our military is losing identity we're going to get this I don't know if homogenous is the right word but this big lump of army comes out of Europe to fight a big lump of army that might be the Russians combined with the Chinese and again just all bringing us to this Orwellian state I just want to read something Mike and I'll hand back to you but this is on this Veterans Today article editors note the history of the Khazarians specifically the Khazarian mafia the world's largest organised crime syndicate that the Khazarian oligarchy morphed into by their deployment of Babylonian money magic has nearly been completely excised from the record books so this history has I mean I'm sure a lot of people are watching now this will be the first you've heard of the KM the present day KM knows that it cannot operate or exist without abject secrecy therefore has spent a lot of money having its history excised from the history books in order to prevent citizens of the world from learning about its evil beyond imagination that empowers this world's largest organised crime cabal is that about it Mike? That's it, that's all it is and that should be standard knowledge because it's highly organised crime it's highly highly organised and because they're so well organised that they own the governments they own the media, they own the academy they own the Ivy League school, they own everything we in the neoreactionary world and I think some of the best analysis has been done from neoreactionaries and there are some essays I think are essential reading as well on biological Leninism so if you write that down, biological Leninism there's three essays on biological Leninism in a series and you'll find them you read those and that's how they do it that's how they do it reading new lies for old that's how they do it and that's official I think when Galitzin wrote that book I think like 95% of what he predicted back in 1984 has come to pass he's considered like the best ex-KGB officer that has really exposed what they're planning what they're up to yeah that's a very important book and that should be standard reading in Sandhurst within the officer class within the British military along with obviously it is anyway, Sun Tzu's Art of War is a very good book but that book by Galitzin is that's what got us into all these wars that's how people are getting maimed and blown to pieces and for the illegal wars they're mafia wars so our military has just become a mafia we're just a strong arm of organized crime that's all we are with a strong arm of organized crime and we should be ashamed of ourselves that we've fallen for this we should be outraged when the friends of ours that have died and the ones that are maimed to this day that's who they're working for it's tragic so all my activism is with the military really and with the police and with the military of Ireland, of Britain and of the US and a few other things but yeah, so that's it I just focus on guys with guns and try and create divisions and education in there and that's what your channel is all about I know for sure because I've had it confirmed is your channel is known because within the commanding heights of the British government and senior ministers so their staff are some old friends of mine so yeah, you're well known and so it's getting out there and that's all we just keep doing it and every day is an absolute gift so we mustn't forget that we're here to have fun and I don't really tell you any different as long as it's graceful fun but I would suggest that people prepare and a really good manual on prepping and I had some kind of association with the Mormon community when I was in America and a lot of them are in the CIA and as we know all intelligence agencies feed into the city of London and the Mormons are really like the best preppers and you can get this big thick book which is kind of the Mormon handbook and it covers a lot of stuff surgery and really how to survive but how to prep and so every Mormon household has a year supply of everything they need for their family whether it be toothpaste and light bulbs and matches they just rotate it all the time and they're really serious about it so look at what the Mormons are doing but I think it's well worth having a good few months of stuff stashed food for you and your family so if they do pull the plug you're not going to go hungry you're not going to get cold you're going to be okay you're going to be on gardening here and that should just be normal going forward that should just be the human experience and if there's any Amish Mennonites around you they know how to survive and there's so much information on the internet about that but actually you've got to start doing it because this is the year of years the dark is getting darker because the light because the truth is getting out there and so I think that prepping is so nice when you know that you've got three months supply or at least three months supply of stuff in your house so that your children aren't going to be hungry and start losing weight and they've pulled them in the Ukraine they rigged three famines in the Ukraine where millions died so they've done it before they did it in China they did it in Ireland I mean these are all rigged famines and it wasn't black and white back then it was colour just like it is today it's a beautiful day here in Ireland but it was like that in the Ukraine in the 1930s it was a beautiful sunny day but people were eating their own children they were literally turned into cannibals to survive and it was a sunny day it's just good to be prepped but don't live in fear folks if you're prepped you don't live in fear you laugh in the face of fear and the way of laughing in the face is to prepare we're in the middle of a war so just be prepared I love the smell of Hexibox blocks in the morning as much as people prep it's also important to work on your spiritual game folks work on your enlightenment work on developing that all important connection and spread good vibes basically that's what it's about raising everyone's vibration being the person that people want around them not getting into identity and petty politics they're always slagging other people off or they're always writing some message of hate on Facebook massively living in the ego I mean the Khazarian mafia they understand ego better than anyone else on the planet they know if they can keep you trapped in it from birth with all their their hollywood and their music every song is a plea from the heart it's I'm not good enough come back and love me oh she's walked out of my life it's designed to get you to forget yes you are good enough you're born perfect but they're going to chuck you the hero story from hollywood to get you to think that you've got to be a hero in your life you've got to aspire to be in a military to make something of your life and no they don't want you to know you're perfect from birth we all are we should all get on crack on like Mike says love is the answer because we're all made of the same stuff whether you like it or not we're all part of this beautiful thing and once we suss that we can spread that message and teach our children that there's something bigger going on here and it's beautiful then as I say the tools that these these mafia types use to keep us in fear they're no longer work and hopefully we won't have to prep but we will do gardening because it's a beautiful thing to do that will bring back a sense of community and a sense of getting in touch with the land all these things that have been hidden by these bloody devices Mike, one last oh you're gone I just had a quick point on the phone say your point well I was just going to say let's finish off talk briefly about Bunting's map and also Belt and Road but you go first well just on the phone I lived in Palo Alto and two blocks away from where I lived in Palo Alto in California the hub of Silicon Valley in 2007 just two blocks away from where I lived on Main Street was the Apple store and I went to the launch of the first Apple iPhone it was like Summertime 2007 and a couple of thousand people it was a big media event and friends of mine on the day said Michael never ever ever buy a smartphone this is the most dangerous thing ever do not get it and so I don't have a mobile phone I just have a landline so yeah well I mean I have a phone that is literally part of my medical kit so the battery is all the battery is never in it the battery is always charged up so if I'm out we spend quite a bit of time up in the wild so if I do break a leg or need an emergency Kazovac or something I've got a phone at hand and just use it for that and just always keep the battery out as we did in Silicon Valley back then when I was living there no one kept a phone that I knew with the battery in I mean you only put the battery in and your smartphone is a terrible thing so if you can try and figure a way how to live your life without it it would be a good thing but yeah that was my point on the phone there and stay sober I mean I don't drink but I think it's a good time to be as sober as you can and really enjoy the spring and get out as much as you can keep on top of your fitness and get a hobby get a hobby like this knife making that's a beautiful knife that truly is that's a beautiful knife wow I've got a handguard for it here somewhere here you go put the handguard back on I took it off to did you forge that steel I didn't forge it I cut it from sheet from carbon steel but then I tempered it in an oven that I built myself that's beautiful that's a good survival knife just better than spending all day on a tablet or a bloody phone or scrolling through facebook or you know gives you a sense of reality and history so Mike China's New Silk Road what are we talking here and how does this fit in with Ukraine do you think or maybe it doesn't yeah I don't know I think the idea of having a whole bunch of railways all over the world is not a bad idea I'm not against that that was the original thing wasn't it railways and then the steel company wanted to sell cars so they got rid of all the railways got rid of those rip them up so that everyone can have a car so I like the idea of really good public transport and a great way of developing stuff around the world I'm not against the whole railway thing but it would be good if it was in the hands of people who deeply cared about nature it's like cars I mean the internal combustion engines are pretty a good thing this whole electric car thing is madness I mean the deep studies on electric cars is an insane idea so yeah but the Belt and Road but putting all the manufacturing in China is not a good way I mean your manufacturing should be spread around the world and because it's good to make stuff right it feels good when you produce things and build things and they're not just all shipped in boats and shipping things on the seas I mean the oceans are dying the living systems of the planet are in decline so it's good if we can maybe keep stuff out of the ocean and so why not shift stuff around on magnets on railways and so the technologies around trains now it's interesting stuff so I would encourage that kind of technology but not in the hands of psychopaths not in the hands of criminal elites and I think shifting everything to China which is what they're doing yeah it's madness yeah so I think we just need to distribute manufacturing around the world and countries nations and of course there should be many more nations should as best as much as possible be self-sufficient say for a rainy day because maybe in the future all this kind of importation is going to have to stop but we should be self-sufficient but interdependent in some ways and symbiotic with all other nations of the world so a Russia a Russia on board with a belt and road because as we just seen on I'm showing the map here Mike well they're getting forced closer to align with China yeah they want they want America out of the they want to keep stealing American technology or western technology but they they I'd say they want US out of NATO and the creation of the European military so yeah so once again the military industrial complex is when you see that the shipping route of the Belt and Road goes up through the Suez Canal then you can understand why the European Army now is more shaped on technology and going back to the old commando style of quick moving units across for example a desert territory fighting an enemy that is very mobile so we're talking like what we've seen in the Middle East an enemy in small units they don't dig trenches they don't sit there and wait for you coming this is why you see in the Marines for example who now have a commando unit or will have a commando unit I believe in Oman this is it's all important to know this stuff Mike isn't it to see how this incredible tapestry is being put together the tapestry of control essentially and control for our children but it's insane but you can't keep it going for thousands of years I mean it's just you know on a planet with finite resources you know fast being used up so yeah that's why that book blip by Christopher Clarkston is really really another essential read because we're going to have to get to the point where the idea of war between peoples and nations has come to an end because we've got serious planetary health issues so yeah we need to clean up our act because we've had this kind of 300 year oh you've got a copy brilliant have you read it reading it now mate hang on get me that's I mean that's that should be a standard reading in the military academies as well because yeah we just need to have another truly united nations there isn't a front for the criminal class but it's coming up with a plan it's like we're in trouble we can still maybe have our high technology for some things but I think we can why not you know kind of live like the armish but with high technology high speed rail high speed you know or you know communications and you know and healthcare I mean so I think there's a lot of high tech stuff that we could kind of hang on to for a little bit longer or maybe a lot longer but if we're spending so much of our high technology and natural resources on yeah and that's real data just it's really really data it doesn't have an extra growth it's talking about the end of societies we know it because of the scarcity of the resources that we're wasting at a great rate we've got to get back to the garden and actually there's so many books I could recommend but anyway but yeah that's a very very important but so yeah we need to fix what we've done the party's over but let's have fun for the next few thousand years of making it beautiful again I'm just showing Bunting's map to clarify what we were saying earlier about the Orwellian future of the planet divided into the three super states and this is not a new idea is it this goes back to Heinrich Bunting who came up with this map in 1581 Mike he realized that this is the way that the planet was being guided so you got the three super states Europa, Asia, Africa all played off against each other and Israel's at the center it's got Jerusalem there at the center you know these people aren't stupid are they yeah so it's yeah it's good I'm glad you mentioned that folks I'm just going to clarify again we're talking about the Kisarian mafia here so stop with your racist insinuations we love all people on this channel and I know I speak for Mike as well we're pointing out that these Kisarians are incredibly clever infiltrating other people's religions and then using that as a cover to move around the planet so if you try to get at them they can just play the race card it's a tricker there so please don't be falling for it and love them too love them too like Christ said you love your enemies but you've got to point out their error and you've got to come up with better ideas and you've got to figure out some way to isolate them to restrain them but yeah they just can't help themselves one final question then Mike what would you say to young men all women but predominantly young men now they've watched their mainstream media they think that Russia's the big bad guy they don't know the background that we've discussed today they're going to go over there and be a hero and they're going to save save Ukraine and I'm not taking a piss now folks I'm as I say I respect all people and I've been that young soldier haven't I I've been in conflict just highlighting this scenario because it's coming up more and more now and I want to know what Mike would say to these young fighters are they going to help our children's future Mike and the future of the planet and Ukraine or are they just playing into the trap of the NWO yeah they're just victims of very effective engineering really some propaganda but if you have that feeling to be a warrior or to be part of a standing army yeah join the military but only be defensive only protect your nation you don't need to go overseas and just protect your land protect your people it's never going to happen though mate if you look at the last 24 months even the military have been buying into this hook line and sinker no I've had many individuals approach me and say Chris I'm in a unit with 500 people I'm the only one that is going against this agenda everyone else is just cow-towed to it they even walk around and they've got I'm going to call it an accoutrement I think people know the one I'm talking about that you wear they've even got them in their regimental colours so the notion that they could join the military and just do good is um it's a lot of it is the television is powerful so I never grew up with the television we never had a television as a child I had it when I was at boarding school we were only allowed to watch it on Thursdays at 7.30 for one program the top of the pots so I would just never and that was massive social engineering as well but I've never lived with the television as a child or as an adult I've never owned a television my children they've never seen it although a few times at friends' homes once in a hotel we watched the Tour de France but we watched the Island Play rugby at the back of a pub but yeah wherever I've lived I've never watched television I mean I just haven't been engineered by television and so I think that's the big big thing you've got to get that out of your life and now with the internet you can create your own media you don't watch strictly then I don't know what you mean oh it's thought it's like the greatest program ever on TV it's about dancing yeah I don't know I'm missing absolute classics really yeah and I just don't want to yeah I've just never ever lived with it never ever ever and I'm really thankful for that I'm really thankful for that so but I'd rather just read books heavy subliminal programming isn't it when you understand it's all controlled by KN but we watch films I mean I do watch films my children watch films but my children they're young but they see the social engineering and I try and preserve their innocence and obviously get child appropriate films but they see the social engineering that goes on and so they're not so respected by it and it's pretty much in every film it's really hard to find a decent director that hasn't been caught up in it but yeah so there's some great films out there so no I prefer just documentaries but reading would be my favourite thing and being outside that's so you've got to be outside and yeah and that's the mind of a amazed how you survived brother I mean I yeah it's really I actually met I knew oh really is that a recent one that's the sequel to Eating Smoke oh wow I must get that then and then my third memoir oh third memoir was running the length of the UK do you have a ghost writer or you just write them all yourself no all myself I had too big an ego back in the day to let anybody represent me Mike I was that person that we're talking about but even now I when I see an author with their name on the book I know because I'm privy to inside military and author knowledge you can say and you know that they didn't write it but they're lauding it around as if yeah I'm the best selling yes I'm not criticising it you know if you can make a million pounds off it which these guys do they certainly make you know there's one particular author isn't there that's his book did phenomenally well I'm I'm not judging them Mike I'm just saying for me when I see my book on the shelf I need to know that I wrote that yeah people keep telling me to write a book but I'm too busy reading and I don't know if I've got anything useful to say but yeah I would just steer people to yeah to read other people if I wrote a book it'd be maybe just for my children so that they know the life that I've led really and that would be maybe the reason why I would do it but yeah there's just so many good writers out there but yeah I'm just amazed how you survive this addiction thing and when I was in the military I was the only guy I was in a small specialist unit within Airborne Forces and I was the only guy in my unit that didn't drink and but you know I have drunk you know when I left the military and not too much though but yeah I've just never been big into alcohol but the whole drug addiction thing is I remember I had a friend in America a French guy and he used to be a heroin addict and he he'd been clean for 20 years and he said every day I wake up and I don't know if I'm going to do heroin that day it had such a hold on him and still does and so for anyone who's kind of got out of that is an incredible character and such a strength to be able to get out of it and I think I think I've steered away from alcohol and those kind of A-class drugs because I'm not so sure if I am strong enough to I've been through a lot but I just want to challenge myself and of course I'm much older now but I admire anyone who's managed to in fact and this same Frenchman he smoked tobacco and he said it's harder and he was still smoking cigarettes not very often but he said it was easier for him to give up heroin than it was to give up tobacco and he and alcohol being as a substance use specialist dealing with alcohol is the worst it's the one that kills more people than I know and that's why they promote they promote alcohol and tobacco because they people get addicted to it and it's such a it's such a stain on our civilization that the harm that alcohol has done can I just say if there's anyone out there struggling you know who you are check out my The Legends coach playlist everything's in there for you to get a new direction in life and get yourself get that control back get yourself on the path to enlightenment I'd say Mike listen we could talk forever but I'm conscious I don't want people to look at this video and think oh my god I'm not watching a three hour video so let's stop there friends at home it's been wonderful having Mike on the show if you've got questions for him put it below okay what are your thoughts on the global agenda do you think there is an agenda or do you think the cards fall you know the cards fall and they lay where they lay and it's just all happenstance put below the video we'll get Mike back to answer all your questions and Mike that just leaves me to thank my audience massive love to you all and the same sentiment to you Mike yep thanks brother and people out there you know just lobby power the political class is obviously corrupt but and if you have the energy and the intellect you know run for public office but certainly lobby power get this reading list out you know reach out to the military reach out to the police and get them on these websites owners.com and Henry Mac out.com and the reading list I suggested and let's start educating each other but keep loving the air that's that's the key you know and and enjoy every day because it's absolute joy to be alive and to see the tears and pray for these leaders and the people in Ukraine right now caught up in this rigged affair but yeah thanks for your time Chris I really appreciate the chat you're welcome let's chat soon


For more videos on people's struggles, please subscribe to our YouTube channel. Hello and welcome to People's Dispatch. A few days ago, the Narendra Modi-led government in India has introduced what is called the national education policy. Now this policy is a framework, it comes after many decades, and it has introduced a lot of new proposals, a lot of new plans to completely change the way education is done in India. That includes the teaching side, that includes the financing side, that includes the future of students itself. So there's been a lot of controversy over it, teachers organizations, students organizations, especially from the left have continued to have opposes, they have opposed the draft, they have opposed the way it's being implemented, and they have opposed the kind of implications it will have on the country and its future. So to talk more about this, we have with us Professor Abad-e-Hawib. She's a professor at Delhi University, she's a member of the Democratic Teachers Front, and she's also an office member of the Delhi University Teachers Association. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. So before we go into some of the specifics, I wanted to begin by asking about the general direction or the general trend of this policy itself. We know that the right wing in India has been very keen on influencing education so that it can push its ideological agenda. So overall, what is the direction of this policy? Yeah, you know, the cabinet note which has been passed and which was posted on MHRD website only yesterday morning, we saw it, is based on 2019 draft education policy. And we see that this policy document is going to lead to extreme centralization and commercialization of education. And while in whatever is written may look like, you know, that we are moving towards something, but finally the implementation will lead to extreme commercialization of education. And that is why students and teachers have been opposing it and on the both 2016 draft inputs to draft new education policy 2016 and 2019 there has been lot of agitation by students and teachers and a lot of feedback was given on the draft new education policy 2019. What we are finding extremely upsetting is that while universities and schools have been locked down because of the COVID situation, the government is passing a very important document which is going to affect each and every household. This is not the time to push a new education policy. You know, it is very interesting that I was looking at one of the TV programs where they say that you know, RTE Act 2009 will now be implemented from age three to 18. And this is a very big step and this is very good. I went to a TV program recording where ABVP person also claimed this. And this was based on the document which was available in the public domain on the day cabinet note was passed. So something which was circulated was called NEP Final for Circulation. Okay, this is 60 page document and rightly so on page number 29, 8.8 clause, it says that RTE Act will be implemented for all the children from age three to 18. And this looked like a, you know, a very important thing. And yesterday I saw an RTE activist saying that in the final thing which is there on the MHRD website, this clause has been dropped. Now this is how this government works. On the day a cabinet passed, there was this 60 page document which was circulated. And that is the document which was with the reporters. That was the document which even ABVP was quoting from. And then on yesterday, the MHRD site showed another document which was 66 page. Okay, and that in clause 8.8 RTE word has been dropped completely. The government is completely silent on what will happen to RTE Act. Will it be there at all? Or whether that has been also repealed. And the whole idea that it will be there for all children from age three to 18 has been completely dropped. RTE word has been dropped. If you search the document for RTE. So this is the gap and which this government will have even on the written document and what will be implemented. Okay, so this is a, you know, I was aghast because no government should do this. I mean, how do people believe you if your documents can change overnight? So the other key question to start with when it comes to higher education is there is a lot of major changes that have been proposed. And one of the key changes is that the UGC, that is the university grants commission, which used to regulate higher education is being scrapped. The all India council of technical education is being scrapped. And there's a new body that is going to be coming into place, which is called the HECI. Now, this comes along with changes in the structure of education itself. The M field degree is going to be removed. The bachelor's degree is going to become a four year degree. And students can opt out at any point of time. And all of this has been given this progressive, you know, framework of its students having more choice. But in reality, what will be the implications? See on the issue of a repealing of university grants commission, I want to say that this is not the first attempt. And if you remember in UPS two time, there was a higher education research bill, which wanted to repeat. And again, you know, club, merge, UGC, AICT, and the National Teachers Education Council, National Council for Teachers Education into one body. And that attempt was also stopped through the Rajasabha. The bill could not pass through Rajasabha finally. And in this Modi government also, we see that an attempt was made even in 2018 to repeal all these bodies to bring them under again, higher education commission of India. And that was again, shed because of the constant opposition of coming from educators and from across the country. See the problem which we see is the single window of negotiation. It is a case of extreme centralization. And without saying that why just merging of these bodies will result in something better is beyond our comprehension. There is no study to say why UGC has failed and what is needed to strengthen it. It is important to find out the loopholes and see whether within the existing framework that can be done or not. And we see that all these bills do not provide the earlier attempts also did not provide a framework of study to say how repealing them and replacing them will help to overcome the shortcomings which exist today. On the four-year undergraduate program also, I want to say that Delhi University has been treated as a lab for experiments and during UPA 2, in 2013, four-year undergraduate program was imposed. And a similar kind of framework where it said that students will have choice. And the choice is that they can exit after one year or two years or three years or they can complete four years of undergraduate program. And we see similar recommendations coming right now. And I see that you know a few things here that if you have a common structure which allows multiple exit point, then educators will tell you that this cannot be done because a framework, the coursework is made thinking about the length, the duration of the coursework. You cannot have such a flexible system. It is possible that the university offers courses which run for a year, which run for two years, or courses which run for three years or four years. But to have all of them together in one framework means that you have a very loose kind of coursework where you waste the time of the student. And this has already, we have experienced this in FIUP, when the first year was made completely useless. It was rendered completely useless. And any certificate coming out of that certificate after first year exit would mean nothing in the you know as far as employability is concerned. It will not mean anything. The two year thing coming out of the same coursework would also not mean anything. Yet, but the impact was that you were wasting a student's time when the student would have completed four years. First two years were completely lukewarm, settled with meaningless courses. And this is the mistake which we are going to repeat again. If we want the same coursework to give you multiple exit points. So the one, this is wastage. The other thing which I want to say is that it is in these things you see that this document is actually about exclusion and not inclusion. Because if you have a framework which creates a hierarchy of degrees, you know, same coursework providing three different degrees, I mean three different, you know, certificates or diploma and then a degree. Then the hierarchy you are setting up between these you know degrees which students can get. And therefore, over time, the market will demand that the student should have completed four years if it was possible. And therefore, you will leave the certificate course coming out of the same coursework framework rendered useless. You will also have second two year diploma course coming out of the same structure useless and the three years. So and also we look at the situation around us. We see that you know today but when we calculate the expenditure towards education, we should not only look at what the student is paying in terms of fees. Maybe in the public funded universities like Delhi University, JNU and all, the student pays very less fee towards education. But for Delhi University, you will also have to look at how much money the student spends in living in a city like Delhi. We have to understand that state universities have been sort of marginalized completely because their funding has been reduced, the states do not have funds to give because the teaching course has been kept vacant. And therefore, students have to leave their hometowns and come to a city like Delhi and stay here. Now, therefore, the expenditure of the student in trying to live in Delhi, the expenditure towards rent, towards food, all that has to be seen as families expenditure towards education. So when you are adding a fourth year and which will soon become a necessary thing, you are asking parents to spend more towards education. And therefore, when students experienced FIUP and saw that the first year was completely useless. And it is for this kind of year that the student is made to spend extra, there was a revolt by the students. And it is really, you know, but can I say, I mean, I didn't need that, you know, it is a big responding to the popular movement by students and teachers of Delhi University that when BJP came into power in 2014, Smriti Irani, as an education minister, took the call and set aside FIUP for Delhi University. Today, they want to impose it on the entire country. I want to understand with which, what wisdom. And also earlier, it is during UPA 2's time, whether it is about foreign universities, whether about other bills, it is along with the BJP that other people, the left, of course, was opposing, but even BJP helped to stop these bills. Today, when they are running the government, they want to bring the same draconian sort of policy on education. But one thing which is a change scenario is the following, that today when the parliament is not in session, a big huge change is coming for the education sector. At least in UPA 2's time, the processes were there. And we could enter those statutory processes as stakeholders, we could voice our concern as a university community which we had a greater handle to voice our concern. Today, that freedom has been taken away. And in this context, there's also the issue which you raised earlier, that's commercialization. And one of the aspects of the policy is that foreign universities are supposed to be given more space to enter. So could you talk a bit about what are the disadvantages with this policy? Abhay, we are saying that it is going to lead to commercialization. One is, of course, they are looking at public-private partnership. But more than that, for higher education and for school education, if they will say that there is too many institutions present in a fragmented manner. And therefore, what we are going to do is consolidation. So the first attack which will come is on public-funded institutions. Now, even in the school education, they said that there are schools running with one teacher. Now, they have to understand that it is as per the government policy that for 60 students, on a 60 students, you will give only one teacher. That the schools are forced to run with one teacher. And instead of strengthening the school system in terms of relaxing those things and providing more teachers to those schools, what you're saying is that we will consolidate. So without producing any study to say what will happen if you will scrap schools, government schools in villages, and a name of consolidation have one school for five villages. What will happen to women education? What will happen if a school is scrapped in a village? Will that space be taken by a private school? And we know the answers. Now, a similar thing is happening for higher education. The draft new education policy 2019, on which this document is placed, is drawn, says that today higher education takes place in 45,000 institutions. These are small units also. They are fragmented. And therefore we want consolidation. We will have to reduce the number to 15,000. We will increase the student intake in each unit. Now, one study they should have done as to say how many institutions are already running with 3,000 and 5,000. You are already a college like Miranda House, they are saying college has 6,000 students. We have 3,000 students. So how much you can really expand us? I mean that has to be seen. What will happen if four years undergraduate program will come? Will we get more teachers? Will we get more funds to create more building to accommodate for the fourth year? What is your policy for implementation? So once again, if first universities to be closed down under this kind of consolidation business are public funded universities, then you are again creating vacuum in many parts of the country, which again means that private players will come in or you will push students to go for distance learning mode. Actually, that is the push. And we think that this will lead to commercialization. We all understand that when it comes to distance learning mode also, the students want to only go for modules which have marketability, employability. And therefore it is a setback to pure sciences humanity courses. Once again, if you see that from 45,000 if we have to come down to 15,000 units, this means that students will have to necessarily move out of their towns, their cities, their villages to get education, which again means that they will have to spend more. The other thing which has happened is that the shift from grants to loans to institutions and this whole thing of autonomy. I want to say that how the word autonomy has been completely eaten up. You have to understand that the document has autonomy written in so many places in terms of freedom to create your own modules and autonomy to decide administrative autonomy and all and financial autonomy. And I want to say what the same government has done. We need to understand to understand the gap which will remain in terms of what is written in the document and its implementation. We have understood how this and you can see what happened to the academic autonomy. In terms of choice-based credit system was imposed on all universities. A same curriculum was imposed earlier university had their own right to design course curriculum. But as soon as this government came in 2014, phase one, and they imposed choice-based credit system on all universities taking away academic autonomy of the universities. The other autonomy which went away was in terms of holding seminars. In terms of administrative autonomy also there was a clamp down. And the third important thing ever since this government has come, the financial autonomy is not something which we are asking for. For them the financial autonomy means that if your grades are good, if you are graded as a good university, if you have a high rating and ranking, then you are given autonomy. And the autonomy is that you start new courses, you can start new centers, you can have foreign faculty, you can have differential pay system. But for everything you will ask for fees high to fund those things. You have to find your own funds. Now the only way in which the universities can fund is through the student fee. So if you see that the commercialization is not only that you will have private shops, but you are creating a situation where even the public funded universities are looking at the students fee to fund, to run themselves, to create their structures, to pay the difficulty. And this is how you are even rendering the public funded sphere as totally commercialized. Absolutely. And the other key question which is connected to this of course is that like you mentioned over the past few years, you've seen a very sustained attack on the teacher and student communities, especially the organized teacher and student communities. So do you see this policy also in some ways trying to have an impact, trying to affect the organization and the mobilization of students and Absolutely. And I want to tell you that you know, Delhi University was created in 1942, many other universities were created either earlier or later. And each university had its act. And you know, when I reach today, Delhi University's act, I see how democratic that act was. It understood that more than a person or a small body, you have to bring in more people of the unit in the policymaking. And the entire framework is to give space to common teacher, okay, through either direct involvement or through representation. And then when in 2009, during again, UPA, when certain central universities were set up through 2009 act, we saw that in the act, it was written that you will have to have choice with credit system, that you will have to have semester system. This is not how Delhi University act says, I mean, it says gives absolute freedom. You choose. Now we see the whole changes. Things are changing. This policy also wants units to remain small, and to be governed by board of governors. And we think that that is a great attack on the democratic setup in the way in which policies are made at the local unit and the, you know, but impact, we will have together on the government policies also. You have to understand that Delhi University Teachers Association is a very vocal body and the strength comes because we have large number of undergraduate colleges. We have a large number of colleges, and we have a huge strength. And within the unit, even if this teacher does not find strength, they find strength together. Now this, this act wants to break each affiliating university. All units will be stand alone. And therefore, you know, there will be no space for teachers and students. I want to say that best of the private universities philanthropy in the name of philanthropy may have also come up. All new units, whether it is state universities which have come up in last few years or central universities, you will see that students have not been able to come as unions that teachers unions are not there. This is because the framework is such, because when you have two smaller unit, and you have a fast moving student strength, I mean, the student population moves fast, I mean, they enter and move out, then you do not form a stable union. And while you may have seminars on, you know, unionism on all these people's movement, you will not give that space to your own students and this week is the democratic setup, because there is no also grievance redress outside the system. Today, for example, I want to say Delhi University, there is a huge, you know, levels. I mean, there are one level after another, where if I am, I do not find justice within my college, I can go and appeal to the Delhi University Vice Chancellor. If that doesn't work, I can go to the Chancellor, then I can go to the visitor. But today, the new framework wants you to be devoid of all those frameworks. They want you to be much more in the clutches of the Board of Governors and smaller units where you can't really voice and fight. And Prasabha, finally one last question very quickly. This is regarding the funding for all this. Now, this policy also says like earlier policies at 6% of the GDP will be allocated. But what has been the government's record on this so far? So, I mean, one interesting question which I want to ask everyone, I mean, our viewers also, do you need a policy document to say 6% GDP will be spent on education? I want to tell you the first Education Commission, which was said committee, which was said Kothari Commission in 1964, and they deposited their report maybe 1968, they've said 6% GDP. Now, it is really, I mean, something I do not know. I mean, it is something to laugh at or cry at that today after so many decades, and this has been retreated in between by even UPI-1 and all, today we have government which again brings 6% and while the things have changed today, 50% population is below the age of 25 years. Now, for a very young country, unless the government puts in much more money and educators across the country have been asking for 10%, you know, I mean, we want to compare our research output. But if our research input remains 0.6% of a GDP, whereas all other countries are putting in 3%, 4% and we remain at 0.6%, do you think we will have any research output? Our GDP for this government and you should look at the data has only been remaining around 4% of GDP. Now, this government wants a policy document to say 6% they will put in, did they need that? The answer is no. So, I do not believe that this is going to happen. And I see that, you know, maybe some political leaders may say that, you know, the government should find innovative ways and 6% is too much and 6% has always remained but we were not able to do. I want to say that in the last five years, this government has foregone 10 lakh crore. I don't even want to count 10 days to count how many. Okay? I mean, so 10 lakh crore worth loan has been written off for corporate sector. So, where you're finding will, we can all see.  And, you know, our take away from this COVID situation has to be for all countries, I will want to say, but especially for the countries who are doing very badly and we are on the third top countries as far as COVID cases go is that we have to put in money in public health and education. And this is the right of every citizen. And unless we do that, I mean, we are not going to achieve for our people the freedom, the rights which the constitution has promised. So, our take away has to be that and this government is doing something else. I also want to say that this whole push towards online education and even this government wants to when you will say that education will happen only in 15,000 units. This means that people who will find it difficult to leave their hometowns will be pushed towards online teaching. Towards distance learning mode. That is not a holistic learning mode. That is not which can shape individuals that leaves much more responsibility on the person to create that infrastructure for education. The government is washing off its hand and providing teachers and creating human resource and creating buildings. And again, through this stratification, you will have people going to universities and colleges, getting education, getting one kind of jobs. And you will have another kind which will try to see what course they should do through distance learning mode and get low paying jobs. While they would have spent maybe then up from their own pockets, much more in creating laptops and this when only 28% people have connectivity in this country. And through our experience in this pandemic, we have seen how badly we were not able to reach people, our students. And today you want to take this in a big way at what cost. The whole idea is to unlearn and learn. I mean, this cycle has to go on if you want to look at holistic this and also socializing is a very important thing. You learn from peers. You learn much from outside classroom thing, but that outside classroom should remain to take education at home is basically pushing them in the same environment. And that environment overrides whatever education could actually do. Thank you so much for speaking to us. Thank you. It was nice talking to you. Thank you. That's all we have time for today. Keep watching People's Dispatch.


Hi everyone, Joe for Jasby's CaseBreaks.com coming at you with another three box break of Fanatics under wraps, autographed baseball. Real nice stuff here. Here's break number 30. One spot gets you nine players and one spot will also get any and all, multi-sign at baseballs. Big thanks to this group for making it happen. One spot gets you nine so let's multiply that by nine. There's two, three, four, six, seven, eight, and ninth and final time. There we go. Everything lines up nicely now. Let's put your names in a new list. Put the player's names in the other list. We'll put the results of the randomizer here. Let's roll it, randomize it six into two, eight times for names and players. One, two, three, four, five, six and a two, seven and eight and eight. All right, we got Eric all the way down to Eugene. Six and a two, eight times for the players. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven and eighth and final time. After eight, we got Colfax all the way down to Aaron Nola. All right, so there's the first part of the list right there, we'll just show you the list just as is Eugene with the multi-signed baseball spot. Nice. And then I will then sort the list by your first names alphabetized by your first names and then you'll see all of your players grouped together. There's the rest right there. Nice. All right. Now, let's alphabetize by your first names. Christopher, they're your players right here.  Joe, are you giving up on the break already? We haven't even opened up the boxes. All right, James, they're your players right here. Okay, and then Steve Locke. They're your group of players right there. There you go. All right, we're gonna pause the video. When we come back, we're gonna see if there's any trades and then we'll have the break. Stick around, BRB. All right, welcome back everybody. So no deals were done. So the list you saw a little bit ago remains the same. Now, let's see what's inside. Knife in my pocket. Pop that open. I can also play a little Who Am I? I'll give you some clues. I'll give you some clues and you can try to guess who the player is just for bragging rights. All right, Who Am I? I am a clownfish. I'm an only child of Marlon and Coral. An only child, I was the only one remaining after a terrible attack. I got lost one time because I was gonna touch the butt and then I was stolen. I was kidnapped by a snorkelist in Australia. I got a one bum fin, but I could still swim pretty well. Got a friend, Dory. I should pretty much do it. Who am I? I mean, it should be pretty obvious. No one likes this movie. There you go. Gilo's got it. Brandon finding Nemo. There it is. You got all your stickers right there. Brandon finding Nemo goes to, goes to Eugene. All right, Gabe. Obvious. So obvious. Got him on my Fancy team this year. I'm hoping he can play well this year. All right, next ball. I think that's the only player that it really works for. All right, this is a nice one. All right, who am I? A shortstop, an active shortstop in Major League Baseball, a righty selected in the first round with the 30th overall selection in the 2019 Major League Baseball Draft. Got a $2.7 million signing bonus and I made the opening roster as this team starting shortstop from New Jersey. Let's see, what else do I have with him? He's got some baseball World Cup wins under 12s, under 15s. Yep, Gilo's got it again. Anthony Volpe. Very nice. Your new starting shortstop for the New York Yankees, which is pretty awesome. There you go. Hitting you with the Go Yankees inscription as well. He is the youngest. He is the youngest shortstop, starting shortstop on an opening day roster for the Yankees since Derek Jeter. Eric Klicks with the Andy, Andy, Anthony, Volpe. Nice. All right, next one. Oh, the Felt Bags were cool, Joey McBeth. Sure was a cost-cutting measure. Ooh, black baseball, gold ink. Oh, I think I know this autograph. Is this who I think it is? No, it was not. Okay. All right, active baseball player, another active baseball player. Second baseman, shortstop. A righty, Lifetime 265, batting average, 98 home runs and 310 runs batted in. A two-time all-star, back in 2018 and 19. This is my second, I made my pro debut with my current team, but I was originally drafted by someone else. This was, I was part of the, if you remember this, I was part of the oldest Chapman trade between the Cubs and Yankees. Who am I? Andy, he had a decent year last year. Pretty solid. He'll be playing alongside Anthony Volpe. No? No guesses here. I met my long-time girlfriend, Elizabeth, in my home town of Caracas in 2014. We got married in 2017, first child, March, 2022. New dad. He might have that, has that dad strength. That's right, Gilo, three for three. Labor Day. There are your hologram stickers right there. Pretty cool, gold baseball. An official Major League baseball, gold stitching, gold ink on the black ball. Pretty cool. You can see the Glaber Torres right there as well. And that's gonna go to Eugene with the Glaber Torres. There you go, gang. I'm Joe for jazby'scasewrakes.com. I'll see you next time for the next one. Bye-bye.