i'm going to have my first meal today and honestly i'm not really excited to eat and i don't really feel like cooking i think it's because i reached the limit of like making myself vegan meals with the ingredients that i have at home i don't know so yeah i don't really feel like eating but i should i know i should so i am kind of not forcing myself but trying to eat so i have these spring rolls salad bowls from sprout and i'm gonna actually make spring rolls with the ingredients inside because there's like a lot of different vegetables in here and they also have some vermicelli noodles here's my spring roll and i realized that they're not vermicelli noodles i think they're just regular rice noodles oh thank god i'm going to take off all right today i got food delivered for dinner from a place called sweet balance i got the tempeh fries with some rice vegetables balsamic sauce vegan tofu cheese kale hummus and sweet potato and avocado so hot in there but this looks really good this portion is really big good afternoon it is saturday and it's already two but i haven't eaten anything because i wasn't really hungry it's just strange but i guess the dinner i had last night was really filling but anyways um i think it's about time that i should eat so i'm going to prepare my lunch i'm going to be making kimchi fried rice today with my vegan kimchi brown rice and some veggies i'm really excited for this again it'd be perfect if there was an over easy egg on top but it's dinner time it's 7 20 i actually ordered vegan Thai food from the som thai place that i went in the first uh vegan challenge video i wanted the pad thai so badly against where i ordered it but i guess they're really busy right now so it's going to take 105 minutes for it to get delivered so i am gonna drink chocolate milk because i don't think i could wait another hour i should have ordered it in advance but i just got so distracted with editing and i didn't even know the time was this late already okay that came sooner than i expected now i'm kind of regretting drinking that almond milk they wrote me a note too seeing like thank you for ordering and be healthy and strong and how they don't use plastic for the environment cute they gave me some rice cracker snacks it did come in something that looks like plastic bag but it is not plastic bag like it says here i am not plastic i am in my bedroom because i'm gonna watch a movie while eating for once hopefully i don't spill on my bed it also comes with vegan pad thai sauce lime it oh my gosh i'm so excited for this i'm gonna watch before sunset because i only watched before sunrise going to begin my movie and also eat my dinner it's all happening all the time it's made my go-to breakfast holy bagels with peanut butter and slices of apple taste this matcha latte vegan matcha latte with soy milk we're going here now it feels like it tastes like i'm eating that yeah yeah yes veggie lamen i don't even like lamen but just the fact that this is vegan made me want to try it and i guess i need it because it's good hangover cure i'm gonna try the soup you know what this kind of tastes like seollongtang because it's not spicy at all and i like that because i don't really like spicy food this is like almost 500 calories though i guess it's okay because i'm eating it for breakfast kind of killed it eating this burrito bowl from a sprout i don't like lunch slash snack all right it's time for a quick dinner before i go to radio so i already have some of the veggies cut up i'm just gonna put them in the frying pan one by one i feel like potatoes are gonna take the longest so i'm gonna put the potatoes in first i honestly didn't have too much appetite but only ate because i felt like i had to or else i would starve this is like bringing my appetite back to life i am now home from radio feeling a little really too hungry so just gonna drink my favorite chocolate almond milk i know in the last vlog i mentioned that i didn't like the oatmeal but i'm gonna give it another try i saw a lot of your comments you guys advised me to add more fruits and add milk to it instead of water to make it taste better so that's what i'm gonna do today i don't have regular almond or oat milk so i'm gonna use chocolate almond milk that's definitely gonna be good right i mean chocolate milk with anything it made the banana pancakes good so i'm guessing it's gonna make the oatmeal taste good too the only fruits i have are blueberries and they're frozen blueberries too so i'm just gonna add it it's a lot better than the first time i guess you do need to add like a lot of fruits for it to taste better but the fruit gets hot because the oatmeal is hot it's kind of weird it literally tastes like chocolate soup or chocolate porridge how do people eat this every day though i don't know i just feel like i'm not like an oatmeal kind of girl i love cereal i love granola but i'm so hungry we just have a quick break so i'm eating this black bean fries chip i'm starving we're done with the podcast now finally and i came to eat dinner at root i missed their avocado roll so much so i'm gonna get that i got my new sprout meals in the mail today and i think this is like a quesadilla a brunch i'm having the poke bowl from sprout and also this teriyaki bowl of some steamed vegetables and rice that's a lot i'm about to have a snack avocados and seaweed beautiful look at that this week has been quite hectic for me i wasn't really able to eat properly as you saw i was just like eating sweet potato snacks in between and having like a quick salad for dinner i really do wish i had more time to eat during the day once i leave my house it's just kind of like hectic so i've been watching a lot of videos on veganism and videos on x vegans and so it's really interesting to watch these videos and hear um different people's stories it just shows that like veganism isn't for everyone and you got to listen to your body so tomorrow is the last day and once i'm done with tomorrow i guess i'll you know have the final part of the video where i talk about like the pros and cons of being a vegan and soul what i struggled with or what i really liked for now i'm enjoying my late night snacks i'm home from my yoga class it was the first yoga class i went to this week not too proud of that but um i wore these new leggings and top from jing or j-i-n-g i really know how to say their brand name but top is really cute because of the way it's cut out in the back and also these leggings are super comfortable as well yeah so if you guys are in search for new leggings go check them out and i will leave the discount code here so you can use it super stretchy not sponsored but i have the discount code so just wanted to share with you guys and i don't get commission off of that just to clarify so it's time to make lunch and i honestly don't know what to make i didn't have time to go grocery shopping this week either so there's not much i can make i think i'll wing it like i always do all right i'm making spring rolls again some of you guys were asking me if my videos were sponsored by sprout not sponsored by them but they're the ones who challenge me to do this so they send me one meal a day and thank god for that because i am such a new when it comes to cooking especially vegan food so i don't know whether to call it spring roll or summer roll because i grew up in new york and whenever i went to eat pho the spring rolls were the fried ones and the summer rolls were the ones and rice paper with all the veggies so i call it summer roll but then on the salad bowl it says spring roll i guess it depends on where you live all right i'm done i got five pieces of spring roll or summer roll whatever you want to call it i'm probably gonna have something else on top of this after because this is not gonna fill me up i got my spring roll sauce aka peanut sauce and i have my sweet chili sauce too i'm also gonna pop in this quesadilla in the air fryer and heat it up to make sweet potato chips so for the potato chips i used olive oil and salt and for the sweet potato chips i used coconut oil and added some sugar gosh it looks so delicious taste test i like it better than the potato chips and those are really good too here we go how you gonna eat this all guys please make this so good i guess this is my snack for today for dinner today i brought for radio from sprout just got home from radio and guess what i'm having another late night snack i bought some unsweetened almond milk i'm gonna have this with my chocolate granola cereal always put cereal first guys okay so not put the milk in first the milk is turning brown all right guys so my 30 day challenge is over and i wanted to talk about the pros and cons of being a vegan and soul a lot of you guys requested for this as well and i just wanted to share my own personal opinions so what is it like being a vegan and soul and of course i'm only talking about the diet aspect of being a vegan not the entire lifestyle like i mentioned in the first part of the video this was the first time challenging myself to be a vegan and i said i was just gonna take baby steps and just do the easiest step which is the vegan diet now let's talk about the pros the biggest benefit of vegan diet i think was for me not having indigestion and not having constipation so i shared in the first video that i kind of suffer from constipation and i would get indigested at least once or twice a week i would have to be careful of what i eat and i would have to be conscious of what kind of food i'm eating just because my stomach is kind of sensitive and weak but on the vegan diet for the 30 days i never had indigestion i never had constipation which is like amazing and of course i didn't go on the vegan diet for the aesthetics so i didn't really measure myself or take body picks to see how much weight i lost but i did see that i lost some stubborn gut fat i mean i didn't lose weight like in the face that was drastically noticeable but i felt like the gut which is like the hardest part for me to lose weight in shrunk so that was quite a surprise and the small choices that i make in what i eat and what i consume what i buy just knowing that it can impact the environment in a positive way made me proud and made me happy i normally don't cook at home very often but during the 30 days i tried experimenting with different food and i tried to make different dishes that i never did before so i feel like i got a lot of practice with cooking and learned a lot in the process i thought it was a little bit harder to be a vegan and soul compared to the states veganism is still something that's kind of new here only the people that know about it know about it when i uploaded my first video on the vegan diet there were some comments in korean asking what a vegan was so yeah it's that new here still and i'm not trying to bash on them for not knowing about it it's just something that we grew up with since we're young all we know is eating meat and it's just so embedded in our culture and lifestyle that not a lot of people think about it and not a lot of people find out about it unless they know a friend who's a vegan or they happen to watch a video on veganism so because it is still pretty new here if you just go to regular marts they don't have a lot of vegan options so it was kind of hard for me to find ingredients to make vegan food because i would either have to get them shipped from overseas and shop online another thing about vegan ingredients is that it's just a little more expensive here and the social aspect of it i kind of felt bad for my friends because whenever we would meet up i would ask them to go eat vegan food with me all of my friends were good sports about it but let's say it's like someone that i'm meeting for the first time i don't know maybe it's like a business meeting i would feel bad to like tell them oh like i'm vegan we have to go to a vegan spot because there are only a limited number of spots that are vegan in soul being a vegan means cooking more which means investing more time into making your own food and on top of that vegan ingredients being a little more expensive and you know not everyone has the luxury of time money to invest more into their food if you think about it in a positive way then yeah you want to eat things that are good for your body right but i know not everyone things like that because not everyone can afford to think like that and i kind of felt hungry often this is probably me because i just didn't have enough time in the middle of the day to eat like a proper meal so i would just have simple quick meals which led to me getting hungry much more often than usual so that was kind of annoying just to feel hunger and to feel my stomach growling every few hours and i saw a lot of you comments telling me to eat more protein and eat more because i am not eating enough in a day and i completely understand it's just like my schedule is so irregular and i can't commit to eating proper food for all three meals so the final question is am i going to stay vegan after 30 days unfortunately no i really enjoyed my 30 days and it wasn't as difficult as i thought it would be it was only a bit easier because i had those meals delivered from sprout if i were to stay vegan i think i would have to apply for like a vegan food delivery service just because i don't always have the time to cook and make myself food so that's a commitment that i don't know if i can make right now i did promise myself that i would have at least one plant-based food a day just because i saw the benefits it had for my gut and my stomach and my digestive system and that is something that i don't want to throw away and if there are vegan options at the restaurant i go to i am going to get the vegan options i think that is something that i'm going to incorporate into my lifestyle from now on thanks to this challenge so i think that is all i have to share about being a vegan and soul for 30 days i might have missed something and i might add it while i'm editing but for now um yes this is all thank you for joining me on this 30 day journey and i hope this has encouraged you guys to cook a little more and maybe i will continue to do the what i eat in a week just to show you guys how i'm keeping up with this lifestyle but yes thank you so much for watching and i'll see you guys in the next video


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NFC South, the Panthers, the reigning Super Bowl champions, the Buccaneers, the New Orleans Saints. Come on, Matt, keep it together and the Falcons, who, by the way, will not have Julio Jones next year. That is so weird to me. Although I say that, Julio just said, as I'm recording this, that he wants out of Atlanta. Deshaun Watson has said he wants out of Houston. That boy ain't out yet. I don't know if that's actually gonna come true, but this squad is, without a doubt, the highest overall division when we've done this team is so unbelievably close to a 99. It's not even funny. We've got Gold 99 Tristan Worfs, Gold 99 Jeremy Shockey, Gold 99 Cordero Patterson, Michael Vick, Steven Jackson, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Andre Johnson. And on defense, we have Mike Minter, Derek Brooks, Sam Mills, Jonathan Vilman, Ricky Jackson, Malcolm Jenkins. That entire six top row is all Gold 99. They're all 99s, they're just not all Gold 99s. You know what I mean? Golden Ticket Mike Evans, Darrell Rivas, and now I'm going to sue Leroy Glover, Vita Vaia. I love Vita Vaia. Reggie White, Brent Gimes. So the defense is, without a doubt, a 99. The only thing holding us back is center left guard. Really, it's just Ryan Jensen. I think if Ryan Jensen was a 99, this team would be a 99 overall. It's crazy good. That was, of course, a huge thank you to my boy Josh. Josh has built teams before. He's such a stud. Hit me up and did the NFC South. Josh, I love you. By the way, Brandon, Josh wanted me to let you know that you're down bad. So try to not be so down bad, my man. This is looking really exciting. As far as X factors, Golden Ticket Mike Evans with 8-AP for one step ahead in Acrobat. I've never personally used one step ahead. I'm excited. We might run some main coverage today. Brent Grimes with Acrobat, Rivas with Acrobat, and then Edge Threat on Reggie White. And then on offense, we've got Antonio Brown and then Michael Vick with Dashing Got Eye Escape Artist, Hot Route Master, A.B.s Got Route Tech, and Steven Jackson has Bulldozer Backlash. More tackler fatigue on non-conservative tackles. And yes, I don't have my glasses today. I just got done surfing. Going on a hike. I can't wear glasses for that stuff, so. Nobody asked.    It was an iconic look. I loved having them on. I thought they looked pretty solid, but I can't do it anymore. But all right, 98 overall. 98 offense, 99 defense. Let's have it in this game. I'm excited. Also recently just picked up some awesome new products that I wanna share with you guys. Number one, my skin has been getting abused since I've been here in Hawaii. The last couple years, my acne had gotten a lot better, but it just started coming back. So when Black Wolf approached me and said, hey, we're a men's wellness brand, we've got a face and body wash bundle. It's gonna make you look and feel amazing. 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There are so many touchdowns. I'm so glad I got back to that. Why is Derrick Brooks in at my safety? Did I miss something? Is there a Derrick Brooks safety card? Look at that. That's Derrick Brooks up high. Or am I stupid? I don't know.  All right, I'm gonna stay on the half back here and I'm gonna blitz. We got him! He fumbled! Get the ball! Minters got it! And he's on his feet going the wrong way. But we got the ball! Minplit's coming in clutch. All right, wow. We have some threats out here, dude. I just wanna try my boy Cordero deep on the first play. Oh, but Barry is so open. Oh wait, Barry Sanders is not supposed to be on this team. Darn it! I'm sorry guys, that's just his back up half back. Steven Jackson is allowed. Barry Sanders is not. I think I know what team's Barry Jackson played for. Barry Jackson. Okay, I'm done for the day. So he's in a man coverage of his own. Uh-oh, that's sketchy. Oh, we got it! I almost got that. Wow, he tried to follow that route. Such a hard route to follow.  First in 10, great work so far. Oh, Jeremy Shockey, no! He stopped running! Oh, he's on the one at least. Dude, Jeremy Shockey had his man. If he had kept running to the outside, he would have been wide open, but he stopped his route.  He got a yard out of that. Dude, if he throws it, I'm screwed. Oh, safety! No, Jim Thorpe! Oh my God, I had the safety. I think he might pass it. Yeah, he kind of has to, right? No way. Does not block the halfback. We get to the quarterback.   That's a good tackle. And he's looking at a fourth and 10. He opts to go for it. Let's see how this looks, boys. Snaps the ball, that's play-action. Get to the quarterback. No, and he delivers. I really thought we'd get the sack before that, because I'm in trouble. No, he does it.  I'm getting to the quarterback so fast. Illegal man downfield? How do you get an illegal man downfield? Pop! Oh, okay, good, that's a drop! Let's go! I'm just gonna try and get to the quarterback so fast. Yup, yup, yup, let's go! I set a screver up the edge of break runs and I stopped him myself. I knew he was going play-action. I had to have time to do that. This is perfect. Hopefully I can score. Oh my God, he's so open. AB has daylight. We definitely can score here, we know that. Like that, seven to zero, bro. I feel like I'm losing. Like I'm fighting so hard right now, but seven to zero cannot let him score in these 30 seconds, that's for sure. I think he's gonna look for a deep corner route to stop the clock. Yup. So that's gonna keep the clock running. Get there. Get the Grimes! That's it, he's got no clock for it now. The Brent Grimes user blitz off the edge is nasty right now. Sam Mills is in. Sam Mills is at tight end right now. Okie dokie. I'm gonna run this play-action. I'm gonna show him how to do it properly.  All right, we're just gonna hope one of our slants opens up, yeah?  Dude, the Antonio, the Antonio Browns slipped! It's the most elite play! I've thrown that three times now for so many yards. All right, we're just gonna hand off the Steven Jackson here. I do have bulldozer and I haven't really used it. Let's use it right now. Oh! Hit the truck button. All right, exciting. I'm gonna hand it off again. Try and burn a little clock here because pretty much no matter what at the end of this drive, assuming I do not fumble, that was a horrible whole hit. That was embarrassing actually. I could have taken the outside or the inside and I took neither. All right, so we got Julio or Steven Jackson here for this. Looks like Steven Jackson's a touchdown maybe. Oh! Oh! Ah! I don't deserve, I don't deserve that touchdown. That one is supposed to be an interception. I don't know how he messed that up. I'm gonna take off the Michael Dick. Oh, get there, get there, get there! 15 to zero. All right, so he ran this before. There's a deep corner route. There's a dig that comes across the middle. Yeah, that's the dig. Oh! He dropped it.  Why are you still running this? I'm gonna get a, I'm literally gonna get a sack every single time he runs that play action. Oh my God. You're kidding me. Oh! I missed it! No way. Wait! Evan! Oh, Mike, Evan's just tracked him down. Thank God! Get around it. Oh, I didn't get around it again! All right, let's see if we can get that goal line stand cause now he's moved out effortlessly.   That ball went so high. Oh, he throws back across the middle. We rock him. Now I'm really glad I got that two point conversion. That makes it feel a lot better here because even if I like major fumble the bag, he's got a touchdown and two points. Right up the middle. You're kidding me. He might see the inside zone now. So now we go over. Yeah, now we go with the screen. We're going to get some solid blocking. We're going to want, oh my God! Let's go, Steven Jackson is a dog. Maybe he shouldn't be a dog. This is AFC South and I got Michael Vick out here. So I have made the Michael Vick joke probably 50 times.  Y'all ready? It's a YouTube channel.  All right, first to 10. Just going to take this one right up the middle dude. All right, so he's pinching the line looking for something up the middle. So we're going to try and get to the outside. Is it effective? It is. And I don't think he's going to be able to make that tackle. Steven Jackson is running people over left and right. He has not gone down to the first tackler yet.   Ooh, second and goal here. Clock's ticking. Oh, he sucked. Dude, if he didn't get that crazy blitz up the middle, Gronk was a touchdown. Let's look for Gronk on a corner round.  Ooh, geez. And the kick bar is so hard without focus kicker. It's embarrassing. Oh, that's late. That's late. That's late. He's going to get a touchdown here. Oh, he's not. He just lost me. Dude, this dude just scored in like literally seconds. Is this inside zone or a screen? It's a screen, right? I have no idea what this is. He throws it in the reception. Can I return it? Oh, returning that is huge. That's 20 to 30 if I return that. So he's got two timeouts. I can already chew a really good amount of clock with that many timeouts. But I'm just going to stick to what's been working. I send Shaki out the way, Antonio Brown on a slant and then Cordero on a slant. And we're just going to sit in his pocket and see which one of those two is open.   All right, I'm getting back to my blitz though.  I needed that.  I was getting shelled there for a second and I don't even know how. Oh, and he's going to connect on another crazy. I might lose this game. I have no idea how he got that interception though. All right, we're going to nail far right there. Clock is ticking. He's going to go play action. We're going to hit him again. He's got to make a timeout. He's so deep third and 25.  Gun bunch offset. No way. He's completely clamped. Let's go into fourth and 25 for the game right here. So who does he go on here? Oh my god, that's so open.  That was so open. That was the game and he's gone.  I was so close.  Yo, this is a banner of boys. Thank you so much for watching. What a game. All right, hey boys, that's it. Thanks for watching. As always, I'll see you in the next video. Peace out.


Live from Houston, Texas. It's theCUBE, covering Grace Hopper's celebration of women in computing. Welcome back to theCUBE's coverage of the Grace Hopper Conference here in Houston, Texas. I'm your host, Rebecca Knight, along with my co-host, Pooja Sivaraman, a TechTruth reporting fellow. Our guest today is Adina Shanholz. She is a game evangelist at Microsoft. Adina, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. You are known as the Faye Technologist. Yes. What is that about? Okay, so the secret behind that is when I started my job at Microsoft, one of the biggest things that they told me is like you have to consider about how you're going to represent yourself. And I gave it a lot of thought, like a lot of thought. And Twitter is only like what, 14 characters. And so I'm like, well, I'm a technologist. And I wanted that, I wanted something about technology in my title. And when I looked at the character limit, I had room for a three-letter adjective. And I'm like, Faye, Faye means fairy, and it means weird. So I chose F-E-Y, Faye Technologist, the weird fairy technologist. And I'm like, that's pretty apt. That's pretty apt. I'm a huge weirdo, like, you know, reviews killing all my secrets out. Yeah, so I went to your talk yesterday on nine things every game developer can do to be more inclusive. And I loved it. I thought everything you said was great.  And I wanted to know from your experience as a gamer and at Microsoft, what are some examples of games that have just not been inclusive, that have really bothered you? Like small things that they could have made, that they could have changed so easily that they just didn't do or forgot to do. So something that, okay. So I don't want to rag on any games because it's like, that's just poor form. I have a couple of examples of really good things and really unfortunate things. So I mentioned yesterday, one of my points was gender is not a binary, which is like, I felt like some of the audience laughed at that because some people, it's like, well, of course not, but other people are like, I don't understand what that means. And what it means is that a gender, not a binary, girl and boy is not the only options out there. There are people who identify with neither, with both, or, you know, don't like labels at all. So when it asks you to choose your gender in games, that can be a little off-putting, so much that sometimes you just have to put the game down and just be like, okay, well, man. So that was a bummer, or it just removes you from the gameplay. And sometimes it's like a really small thing, a really small thing.  And their game is first person, so there's no art of the player character themselves. And they ask for your pronouns when you start up your game. And they give you options and they include three non-binary options as well as an option to include custom pronouns. And that's an honestly, like it's a small thing in terms of development because it's a variable.  And so it's just like when the dialogue comes where you're using pronouns, you put in the custom pronoun. It's not that hard, especially since you have to do that anyway with girl pronouns and boy pronouns, you know? So that's a small thing that makes a huge difference. And I've been playing Pokemon for so many, like since it came out, since I was like five and it came out. And they have been, you know, are you a girl or a boy is the question? They always ask you at the beginning.  It's time to like include more options. And I know it can be hard, but you know, it makes a difference to your audience. Yeah, it's time to get a little progressive. You know, yeah. And I think, so I was at another talk and a great example I heard of just like a piece of technology created was an onion peeler which was created for people with arthritis. But it ended up being so popular that, you know, even people without arthritis loved it and started using it. So similarly in gaming, have there been developments that were made to be more inclusive but just ended up being loved by the entire audience in general? Absolutely, like in fact, all of those accessibility things or inclusivity things that you can do are actually really good for people who are able-bodied or able-gamers. So one example of that, that's like super-duper common closed captions. Closed captions are like something everyone uses because you can't predict the noise level of what's going on around you or whether or not, you know, did you actually know that the average gamers in like their mid to late 30s? So most of these gamers that are buying your games actually have kids. So you might have to like play games after like the family's asleep or something like that. So people play without sound all the time.  One thing that like could be done better is like closed captions for graphics in games because sometimes you have to go up to like the graphics in game and read a sign but if you don't have closed captions for it, sometimes you can't actually read the graphics. That's one thing that could be done with closed captions but like that's the thing that I know like everyone uses and I always make sure to turn on my subtitles for my games, whether or not because it's always good to like make sure you understand and process what's going on because there's a lot of things to process in game. Yeah, I think one statistic I found really interesting from your talk was you said that 20% of the gaming population has some sort of disability. Right, and you can never predict what disability that is and that's from Able Gamers. That's like a website. Okay, so can you speak more to that and ways in which like game developers have taken that into account or maybe not taken that into account and ways in which they could? Right, improve. Okay, so here's a common one, color blindness. Like that affects a lot of the population. I don't have the statistic on me, so you know, I'm not going to pretend there but I know that like color blindness is a pretty common one. So when your game is color based pattern matching and you're playing your mobile game you should always have an option to turn on color blind mode where instead of colors you have patterns or something like that. It's like an easy switch so that you're still pattern matching but you're taking to account color blindness. And I know one game that like does it really well is like World of Warcraft where they have different palettes for different types of color blindness. Now you don't have to go above and beyond with that one but that's, you know, color blindness is just like just a really common one. So it's used a lot with color based games. So that was an easy example. Other examples are remappable controls. So remapping your control. So it's actually built into like an indie engine like Unity. So Unity straight up like if you use, they abstract it so that you can do like use the horizontal axis and use the vertical axis and those horizontal and vertical axis will take from a number of inputs which when you start your Unity game the player has the option to remap those controls. So if you want the right arrow button and the left arrow button it can be mapped to whatever keys you need. So for a non-gamer can you put that into perspective as to how those features can make it easier? So, okay. Yeah, sure. Let's say I have no use of my left arm. I could be holding a baby, so temporary disability or I broke it, also temporary disability or, you know, I just maybe only have one arm. And when my game asks me to hold the left trigger button the right trigger button and something like the A button as well. That's something I definitely need to take. The programmer is expecting the player to have use of more than one hand to do that. So being able to remap those controls so I don't have to necessarily use buttons where I will have to configure my hands in such a way that's either impossible or just painful will allow it to be like, oh, I can hold the A button, the B button and the left trigger or the right trigger control with one hand. Okay, that's so interesting. And I think these conversations, like something like that is, you can overlook that if you're a developer who is not thinking on that level. And a lot of these times these conversations can be uncomfortable for people about, you know, increasing representation or, you know, making games more accessible. So in your opinion, what's the best way to go about it? Do you think that increasing the diversity from the employer standpoint can somehow like spark some of these conversations and create more inclusive gaming? Absolutely, like, oh my God, yes. So there's so many things, there's so you to impact this is like, where do I even start? So when I started my talk yesterday, nine things every game developer can do to be more inclusive, I purposely started my talk with expanding your network.  But one thing that we don't realize is the people we surround ourselves with is reflected in our work. Whether that's your personal life, your professional life, like anything in between, like just who we meet and talk to influences our decisions. So if we surround ourselves with the same type of person, that is reflected in our work and it's reflected in our employment.  I don't expect that. So just increasing your network of people that you interact with. Like you can do that in your personal life or volunteer. Like honestly, volunteering is a great way to meet people with life experiences that are different than your own. It will reflect itself in your games or in your software even. So that's one thing. I love starting that way because it's very important. Another thing is that you could take, so employment is just like, that's a big one. Yes, higher, more diverse people. Like that just goes without saying, they're like doing that and taking the steps, that's a different, that's a conversation for another time. It's like that is important, but it is how to go about that. It's just a separate conversation. But another thing that you can do on like a personal level, if you're a writer, writing narrative in your game, you can take the steps to write about people of a minority, whether or not you're a part of it. Yeah, that's something I love that you said is, yes, you said you don't have to be a male to write a male character. Exactly, and that's just to do it. Like of course, there are plenty of women who write male characters like duh. So same applies for any other type of character. You don't have to be blank to write about blank. And one game that I know that has, where I know they've taken the steps to do this is Dragon Age, because I've heard, like I see great, I have not actually played Dragon Age, but I have attended a lot of, I've attended multiple panels where I've heard the lead writer talk about his experiences as a white male, cis, hetero dude, like, you know, and how he has taken steps to try really, really hard, gone through a lot of iterations of characters to write about characters of all genders, sexualities. And I think that's like, you're doing your research. So that's just really important. Adina, we're just about out of time, but I wanted to know if you had any advice for gamers. We've been talking so much about what employers can do, what developers can do, what about gamers? Can gamers make the experience more inclusive? Oh man, God, that's a, that's almost a loaded question. Okay, well we only have a little bit of time, so.  Because that's a problem. Like you don't know the background of anyone that you're playing with, and what you can do is just kind of like be nice. Don't make assumptions about who that person is. Don't make assumptions, be nice. Like just, you're there to play the game, so play the game.  Yeah, yeah, I'm just friendly, be nice, good human advice, right, exactly. And it's unfortunately not reflected all the time in the gaming community. And I, you know, I love gaming. Everyone loves gaming. You gotta be nice and respect that. Adina Shantholz, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. For Rebecca Knight and Pooja Sivaraman, this has been theCUBE's live coverage of the Grace Hopper Conference here in Houston, Texas. We will be back soon. Was there a moment? D- D- D- D- D- D- D- D- D- D- D- D- D- D- D- D- D- D-


What's up welcome back to tennis talk my name is Cam Williams and we're going to continue our coverage of the Olympics Going through the title run for Naomi Osaka now She is probably going to be one of the favorites going in she is from Japan one of the local hopes Probably going to get a medal at the very least you would expect But this is a road if she wants to win the gold medal for Japan So coming in as the number two seed Osaka will play Zhang from China in the first round currently Zhang is ranked 49 in the world So just inside the top 50 has a career higher of 34 in the world And they've actually played three times in their career with Osaka leading 2-1 in their head-to-head So no surprise that Osaka has the record there and actually played last year at the Australian Open in 2020 with Osaka getting a straight sets wins So you would expect that Osaka should get through her first round match her second round match up could be against the Informed Gologic who is at a career high ranking at 48 in the world and just came off a quarter-final at Wimbledon a few weeks ago So Gologic very tough opponent now these two have never played before so this could be a very difficult opponent for Osaka Having never played this opponent before and of course as I said Gologic in great form at the moment career high ranking Osaka's got to be at her best going by the rankings her third round opponent should be Kiki Bertens now That is obviously not a given because Bertens hasn't had a great year But if she does play Bertens in that third round matchup Bertens is currently ranked number 20 in the world has been as high as Number four in the world was a few years ago now But they've actually played three times before with Osaka leading 2-1 in their head-to-head But the last time they played was back in 2020 in Brisbane on a hard court and it went three sets So Osaka again if she isn't playing her best This could be a very difficult matchup against Bertens in the third round in the quarter-final She's likely to play the world number eight Egas Fiontech Which is by far the toughest opponent in her section of the draw now They've actually played the one time before with Osaka getting the win It was all the way back in 2019 when both players were super young Osaka had won a US Open by then and an Australian Open but no one knew who Egas Fiontech was back then Osaka got the win straight sets there in Canada So it'd be very intrigued to see how these two play against each other two years on they're both champions now And we notice Fiontech has improved a lot not just in the last two years, but even in the last 12 months So hopefully we get that quarter-final and we'll see who wins it But if Saka does get through that tough quarter-final matchup She'll take on the number four seed Spetalina if we're going by the rankings now these two have a very long history Against each other that played a lot of times They've actually played six times before with their head-to-head right down the middle three a piece and plates of epics as well The last time they played however with the 2019 Australian Open and Osaka got the straight sets win So haven't played for a couple of years, but over their careers when they have played it's been a very close contest So again very tough matchup for Osaka if she does play Spetalina However, Spetalina has not been in great form of late So who knows who she plays in the semi-final but based on the rankings She's probably gonna play Spetalina if the rankings do play out Now in the final if we go by the rankings should be playing Ash Barty the world number one now These two have actually played four times before with their head-to-head split down the middle to a piece And the last time they played was a couple of years ago at the China Open in the final of that event It was a big event in Beijing and Osaka got the win in three tight sets It's been a long time since they played a couple of years now Very interested to see how they both play because since then they've both won Grand Slam Of course Osaka's gone on to win the US Open again and the Australian Open again And Barty's gone on to win Wimbledon just a couple of weeks ago So if we do get the gold medal match between the one and two players in the world It should be an absolute epic and I'm very excited to see how these two play against each other two years on Because the last time they played when they're both champions it was a very close contest So there it is the road to the title for Naomi Osaka, of course WTA It's very hard to predict who's gonna play who but I would expect that Osaka's at least gonna make it into the medals Right, she's probably gonna make it to the semi-finals to be playing for gold or playing for bronze at the very least Let me know down the comments below. How far do you think Osaka can go? She's the equal favorite with Barty to win a medal or win the gold medal I should say So let me know down the comments below how far can she go and who's her toughest opponent do you reckon? Is Barty her toughest opponent? Do you think maybe Svetlana can do some damage? I know Sakari's floating around as well So let me know down below who's Osaka's toughest opponent and how far will she go? To Naomi Osaka the hometown hero, she's got a chance of getting a medal this year. Can she do it though?


Those of you who saw Mehdi's talk that's from the DPL will have seen the slides where he mentioned what the motivation road naps can be and also trying to find some ways to actually get that rolling started. So this is what this part is about. Two mics, you can pass them around and one for passing around and one for running around there. So if you have a question or something to say, just be sure to write it down so you can get your question on video as well. Thanks. Hi. Everyone in the room saw the slides about the roadmap or not? If you didn't, raise your hand. Okay. So I'm going to show them quickly because we're a bit out of time. So it was about to work on a document with the goals that we set for the project, have agreed in the decision process on how to get things on the roadmap and what's part of the roadmap and what's part of the roadmap. It's similar to what we used to have, the release goals, but they were bound to release and only cover the technical aspect of the project. In the roadmap, we could have ideas about the infrastructure, about the documentation, about the organization, about how to spend money, whatever. So it's not only technical aspects about packaging or getting stuff done in the archive. So there is a roadmap document in Gobi. Yeah, some people found it. I've put some items on the agenda. So we are going to discuss first the... So nobody has the responsibility today on the roadmap. So at some point, there is a delegation that should be done so that the team in charge of that will be able to have legitimacy to decide on the content of the roadmap. And for that, I put some ideas about the tasks of that team. Then discuss which team should be in charge of that. Is it an existing team? We'll create a new team to take care of that. And then get some ideas from the actual content of the roadmap. I shamelessly took what was for the release goal. So it was about SMAR. It was about finding an advocate for the idea to make sure work is getting done. It's not useful to have something if there is no one pushing to get things implemented. And it was about having an idea which is generally... where there is generally consensus. Otherwise, we will not asking the team to decide blindly on the things. There should be debate among developers and enter the richer consensus. And if not, the technical committee could decide which side to take or which solution to implement because that's their role today. So first one, tasks. So for me, it was about getting the proposal, reviewing them, ensuring that there is some currency to not have conflicting ideas or ideas that overlap. It was about deciding about the content of the roadmap. So after the review, they make a proposal for the project. It gets published. And... Well, yeah, that's all. Having predict reviews because at some point maybe some ideas are not relevant anymore. So you can drop them from the roadmap or get new things added. And measurement of the results was added by Pub maybe. So for me, it was the status. Get or the progress. So maybe we should add the... It's part of the review. If you review something, you have to measure it. So look at how... Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. It's above. It's supposed to be, okay. So I have two different comments or questions. The first one is what's the positioning of this compared to DEP, the enhancement proposals? Maybe you can answer this one. I can answer the other one after. So for me, the DEP is a tool to get things documented and implemented. It could be the same process. But there is no one. I mean, managing all the DEPs and making sure that there are still active advocates, that they are still making progress if they need something or not. DEPs can also be seen as focused on the technical side, which is not the whole point. And also, it's not convenient to show what are the current things. So we could have another document somewhere on the Wiki, for example, to say, this is the roadmap for 2006, 2016, maybe with links to DEPs. But yeah, DEPs could be a way to implement the roadmap. I discussed yesterday a bit with Sam about DEPs as well. So basically, DEPs are maybe too descriptive. Roadmap is a bit higher level. Maybe DEPs are a tool to detail how we implement something in the roadmap and try to build consensus. And sometimes it can be also the other way around. We build a DEP, but it's not clear if we have some conscientious. So at that point, it might make sense to get back to the technical committee to sort of see whether it's good enough or not, if it can be blessed in some way. In that case, maybe it can be included in the roadmap or not. It depends on the level of the DEP. So for the reasons, we used to have a Wiki page. I can show you an example. So it's all on the Wiki. For example, if we take something that was documented. So you have a description and then the implementation details. You have advocates, some contact point if there is one. Same status of the work that has been done. Usually you can also find a link to the BTS with the user tags if people file bugs and tag it them properly. So you can see the progress of the goal. What about it? It could be as simple as that. It's actually different. People do have comments about this part? Or the task? Yes, actually. I'm all for more communication about how people want to improve Debian and more documentation about that. I see the point in having a team in charge of ensuring that the process stays alive that deals with the infrastructure to measure progress, etc. I'm not so sure about the fact that that team needs to be delegated. It seems more to me, similar to me to the policy team for example where people are just helping document the state of things rather than decide on the content of what should go up to the technical committee. That's the difference between policy and technical committee. The one thing that could be delegated is decide the content of the roadmap but that's a recursive power. You decide the roadmap and then you delegate the forward to decide what's in it. I wonder if we shouldn't think of, first, of what are the higher priorities. The powers that it gives to be on the roadmap and then decide if it should be a delegated team. If all the roadmap, that's what you wrote at line 10, if all the roadmap bugs are asses, then we need a delegation that overlaps with the release team. My proposal for this could be that the team is in charge of the paperwork but the actual decision of what's in their roadmap is taken by all the developers through voting. People propose goals, they get seconds for their goals and then eventually we vote which of those goals we want and which goals we don't want. Who votes? All the developers? The same process as the GR? Like a GR for the goals and whichever goal is on top of further discussion, it gets accepted and whatever is below further discussion doesn't get accepted. I'm usually not convinced. It's going to work like that. That was my idea. It's a way to see if people are agreeing with the idea, if there is some consensus but I think we can also discuss that on meeting this and see if there is a strong disagreement. I'm not sure there is a need, a real need to make votes on it. For the release goals, for example in the past, we didn't need to do votes and there wasn't big fights about what's a release goal and what's not. I don't expect it to be much different from what release goals used to be. There's a couple of release goals out there that we have not implemented yet and they've been there for 10 years. One of the problems I think with this approach that we've had was to define a goal with a deadline and then find out that volunteers are probably just not going to be able to deliver in time and then we had to sort of be flexible about how we interpret the release goal. If we had DEPs with owners or however you call that stuff people responsible for driving the progress until it gets to a point where the committee or the Debian Project at Large is ready to say yes, we will roll with this, we will take it and put it into the next release then maybe the motivation for the team leaders or these little task leaders, DEP owners would be hired to actually drive consensus within the sub-project, within the DEP so that they then meet the deadline. The difference is let's not declare a release goal in the beginning of the process and then fail to meet it. Let's make it clear that whichever team around the DEP manages to have something ready by the time that we need to freeze is going to be included and have it be more of a rolling process. I hope that's clear. I think what you're saying is we shouldn't commit to things before they're ready and if that's true then it prevents us from being able to use a tentative commitment to drive motivation to succeed at that commitment. That's actually like some, if we were all voting on them then I'm sure there are release goals that I could have helped with that I didn't know about but if I were confronted with them to vote on them then I would have known about them and I would have been more likely to help with them. I'm not saying voting necessarily is the only way to do that but I like some important publicity phase before something is done or not. Sam Hartman, I think I'm all for a publicity phase where people are trying to get support for cool goals and I think having process behind that, well having ways of doing that would be great but I think that should be well before the commitment phase. Lessons that was kind of hard for me to learn that Anthony Towns was very good at beating into people when I first joined Debian over half its lifetime ago was that the people who do the work kind of do get to decide what work it's done. If you don't, that basically Debian is about enabling people to do work it's not about mandating what work they will do. That's pretty early in our constitution and I get really worried about committing to things before they're ready because that sounds a lot like telling people what work they're supposed to be doing. I think Keith Packard was basically talking about this goal setting as a way to enable people to do work and to coordinate but it shouldn't be a stick to hit people with either to discourage them from doing work that is to say we shouldn't have anti-goals and it shouldn't be a way to force people into doing what you want them to do because both of those things don't work very well in Debian. Yeah, I have two remarks about that so indeed it's not a way to discourage individual initiatives it was actually part of my slides and the only thing I find interesting important actually for the team that will be in charge is that sometimes you can have two proposals which are conflicting and we have to make sure that all the items are coherent in the way we are going to make things in Debian and so for now there is the technical committee who handles the conflicts so we can say we have a process to have that for the commitment, time commitment it's actually not very important to say where it will be we can say when it's ready, like for the leaders what I see for the roadmap is a way to promote someone's work and by promoting it, hopefully you can get more volunteers to get it done and that's the most important part is make them more visible in what they do in the project Does that mean you're suggesting it should only be goals where someone is already taking charge of the work though or do you think we can also have a roadmap item where no one's doing it at the moment So are these goals with inactive advocates in the past didn't work pretty well? We can have some section with this this is something that should be done and then try to find volunteers to do the work but it should be advertised as not active I'm not sure how much it should be I think very very strongly that we shouldn't have goals that people haven't signed up to do work on because then it becomes a wish list we might have very good ideas or very bad ideas but we need some people to actually do the work and we can't and we don't want to force people to do work If we want a wish list, we can certainly have that but that's a different thing If we don't promote some ideas, they won't be done anytime in the future and we could say that for example ideas with no advocates could be part of the roadmap for 6 months for example for one year and if there is still no activity there, we could drop them but at least we try to promote the idea and gather volunteers for it I think that should be a different list basically I don't think that we should have ideas As I said, could be another section in the document If you're looking for something to do here, suggest a list that's fine but it doesn't necessarily enable people to do the things we want to enable by giving them kind of the mandate which I think a release goal or an item on a roadmap implies It can also become a kind of precursor stage that if you think something is amazing and should be on the roadmap then it's your responsibility to gather some people who do have the knowledge to do that work And then the roadmap team's role can be to make sure that you're thinking carefully about who you should be collaborating with in case you're forgetting people I think that's the part that I find most exciting that there could be a team that if I sort of say hey, I think that all of our foos should bar then they say, oh, that's great make sure you talk to this person who also does a foo then I make sure that I'm collaborating with the right people early on I'd like to second that idea I think one of the most important things that a team can do here is to avoid late conflict so it really is incredibly frustrating when you have some great idea and you're moving forward and there's a lot of momentum and you've talked to nine of the ten teams you were supposed to and team number ten is like, no, not in a million years, I would never do that and instead it's great to get them involved to have some people who help you get them involved early enough in the process and basically once you have enough advocates and stuff to be able to answer questions like, so if we were going to make Debian a better operating system for containerized software how would we go about it? would this be a reasonable way rather than getting 90% of the way done and then discovering, oh, no, someone who's in the critical path won't support it and I understand that sometimes the answer is, well, we don't know so you can only answer this, would this be a reasonable way not necessarily, is this the way we would choose because we don't normally, you know, we normally let multiple options flourish in parallel for a certain phase but at least learning the people who are going to be hard cells early can really avoid stop energy being injected I was just looking if there are questions about energy yeah, if someone can make the bet then that would be great so I guess we kind of agree on the idea of the tasks there's no disagreement about it so for the reason, the goals we used to raise automatically the severity to be important that allowed in the past people to ease and abuse so it doesn't conflict with the real stimulus perimeter the question is, should we keep it or not? I guess the question is also how this works in practice it doesn't necessarily make sense to remove lots of packages because they haven't yet got a new feature that is in the roadmap I don't know what other people think if it's not contradicting, there's a question of there could be bugs that are a bit wish list basically but removing the package won't actually further the goal so removing the package because, yeah I'm personally not for it you're for which? for removing packages because the bug wasn't... but imagine our roadmap feature is everything must be able to communicate by carrier pageant and we haven't yet implemented this in LibreOffice it doesn't, to me, make sense to remove LibreOffice because there's a wish list bug asking for it the severity is important, it's not really critical so it will not get removed well and still stays the release team jurisdiction to decide what to actually release and if we have a release goal that says we want CD1 to be entirely reproducible it's their call to wait or not wait until this wishful thing we might want to achieve at the end of the day is achieved or not so I'd consider the severity, bug severity quite a detail of this discussion really well not really actually because in the past it was really helping people I mean during the release goals to make things that are easily done in the archive so, yeah so Nils has about that well I kind of forgot that it's more of a detail but what I would like to see is a more extensive list of higher powers being on a being a release goal gives for example one thing that could be done is get FTP masters to prioritize new processing for packages related to a release goal that does not need to be done for each and every release goal but for some of them it could be really relevant to a faster new processing and that's a way to provide incentive for setting up a release goal again I'm not really convinced that the important wishlist thing either makes sense because these days the NMU policy is fairly liberal you can just NMU things with 15 days delay which is generally enough for almost everything so for me the main deciding feature is whether or not it's RC or not and it's going to be staying in non RC so it's not really a big deal for me at least at least we asked the question sorry? yeah, I think he finished something so everyone has access to Gobi so now the question is which team should get this organized my idea for now was the technical committee because in the constitution so the membership is limited in time so they had to renew the team members so you don't have people taking away the roadmap for a specific set of developers with some view it gets renewed and ensures that it remains neutral it's actually also the body in deviant to reserve conflicts between developers and offers advice so for me it's the best candidate for now and I'm not for creating new teams because I think we have too many already are there some comments on it? what's the position of the technical committee? well technically the technical committee hasn't taken any decision on that so I cannot say what the technical committee opinion is what I can say is my own opinion is that I can see the value of having the TC being that body the only thing I worry about is having the other appeal court that the TC is for the rest of the problems that said that kind of everything looks like it could be done by any other team or motivated members that would be setting up tools and having a nice process for that it's just wishful thinking that we can find people to do that or I'd be thrilled to discover that it is not so the technical committee could be the fallback but I don't think it's a good fallback I had kind of the same opinion about having the TC being the deviant policy maintainers that's more of a last resort idea and if we don't find anyone else to do that job then the TC might be the one to do it but it would be a better place if it were not the case So about the policy because it was the last point So in the constitution you already decided on technical policy so you don't have to maintain the package I mean technically but you could decide whether there was some disagreement on some points so it's not about getting technical work done on the package I guess For the roadmap it's not really a fallback I mean it's really the first one when you have conflicting ideas and when you have to get some compromises or consensus or some solution decided or whatever if you have another team which handles that they still have to go to the technical committee to get it resolved in some way So having a technical committee in charge of the roadmap is also a way to get the process faster Well then maybe we disagree on how the actual process of the roadmap would look like and what I understood from what you're saying is that you assume that there would be a lot of arbitration which I think might not be the case most of the things we can put on the roadmap are 98% of the time non-conflicting Yeah if it's true that most of the roadmap items are non-conflicting which is what I was going to say also then it seems that the purpose of the roadmap team would be to serve as like to provide motivation or to help people think through their ideas but then the roadmap team in my view a different vision of the roadmap team if you assume for now hypothetically there are zero conflicts is the let me help you do what you want team where you know if I come up let me do what I want team and I say hey I really want to change permissions on Varmail and sure we can eventually I'll have to make a patch to policy or whatever and get the technical committee to agree and I need to figure out who in the project actually cares about the permissions of Varmail then the let me help you do what I want team will say okay so you need to talk to these IMAPD maintainers and post fix maintainer and exit maintainer and even the send mail maintainer I'll be like right thanks I forgot about send mail and that is a success of the let me help you do what I want team and so I think that hopefully and so if you have people on the tech committee who sort of signed up to help arbitrate then that is sort of an anti-negative perspective that is like how do I help this suck the least and that mindset is a very different mindset from the mindset of how do I explore the whole list of everything going on in Debian to hand you more work to do to people to contact and I'm not responsible I'm just helping you figure out what you need to do so in that sense I think that there's different reasons to get involved in one or the other yeah I was actually trying to see the technical committee with new positive tasks instead of I think someone if they don't want that I mean I think they just pushed someone into the technical committee on the promise of it being a job where you had to have a responsiveness of one week in about an hour a week whereas this might be a rather higher work Sue I think it's very important that I would like to see the technical committee be perceived and move towards a mode where we are moving things forward in a positive way than rather than an anti-negative way I do think that the technical committee can do some of the do what do help me find the right people to talk to work we probably have good skills in that regard but I do think that ultimately you're going to have to do a fair amount of work up front of getting substantial energy behind your goal before you can claim any large project resource for review just to make workloads manageable okay the most important question actually about the team is are there some volunteers for the let me help you to do what you want to do thank you that's the second problem actually I would volunteer as long as there are many other people involved so maybe let me put it this way like if you're willing to possibly volunteer for that raise your hand this is not a commitment just curious if anyone else finds that idea interesting okay let me just get the names yeah really really keep your hands up and let him take the names yeah he's writing down some names you're not setting up for anything I mean so that we can discuss with people about their commitment to get that done and it's very important to not sorry what's the qualification to be on the team was the question you don't necessarily have to be very technical it should cover all what we do it should cover all what we do in Debian so in that way it's very important to have a diverse team not focused on the technical aspects so everyone is welcome even non uploading DDs even DMs even non DDs so yeah if you want to volunteer John Sullivan had his hand up to you just so you have that on the list any time just who is the realist okay your name is Kate right as unfortunate as it might sound for your grand plans this kind of looks like the project that we should have some sort of attempt out there and then iterate and trying to get the whole road across the whole thing and going directly saying the technical committee is in charge of arbitrating between the project and having a very complex process about that seems like too early for that and if we have a team of some people that are ready to announce a quickie thingy that we have on the wiki saying these are the constraints we want to have for roadmap items and we start with that and then if in six months we have a dozen of them then someone will come up with some system to make that more manageable and if in six months we have nothing then so I think my point exactly is that I think it just needs to be tried that's what we are here right I mean okay the second half of my point is that it just needs to be tried with a team of people that happen to be motivated and then we can re-discuss what exactly are so how are we going to do it we could start by creating a mailing list and start discussing how to make things making a call for proposals for example get things reviewed on some wiki page and then make some announcement this first set of proposals and yeah I don't imagine something complicated really my problem with this team so far or who is going to decide is this really sane because if we are only here to the okay you have a nice idea why not but it looks good does it really make sense so yes the good thing about the technical committee is that it's a technical body so if they sign up for something you have few chances of appeal within them so you're rather sure that you can go forward without having other people coming yes there are two points if there is a rough consensus on the idea there shouldn't be any need to go to the technical committee to decide on it so it should be pretty straightforward and then as didier commented I have as I said I have the feeling that they see themselves as a court to decide on problems which so it doesn't match what you said for the roadmap maybe the idea is that we drive them towards other people in Debian that could be interested and then we invite them to present their results to in Debian Devil to give two weeks for comments if there are no objections then we validate otherwise we maybe seek some advice from the technical committee like every developer they can still make comments so I don't think it's necessary to bind the process to some team and wait for their comments specifically or if someone is motivated by a project and he has a few negative reactions somewhat he wonders should I go ahead should I not go ahead I think it's still good I think they did not understand my point or maybe some other bad words but maybe they can what you can have people against for various reasons sometimes it's a good reason to stop but sometimes it's not a good reason to stop but I think earlier I think we have not much conflicts on the release goals and so if there is some conflict we could say ok it's not part of this roadmap of this year but the decision will be delayed for this specific point and then we publish the list that Yes for really technical goals you usually have consensus for more policy related goals I mean for example I try to drive a depth 14 on the bit layout I think I have a broad consensus around it but you still have a few people who say well this is useless because what matters it works for blah blah blah if there are only concerns about uselessness I think it's ok yeah but it would be nice to be able to I mean I'm a depth driver I'm not so confident yet to say to move it to the accepted so maybe TC could help here well I guess maybe a part of the question is if the technical committee is the kind of court or appeal then who makes an initial decision is that just a kind of consensus of a list or do we need or not any more formal way to make the initial decision amongst the people that's why I mentioned the delegation initially and for me it makes sense to make the team delegate well the technical committee has the power to offer advice that's clearly a case where we could just let me help you team could just recommend to the goal owner that you should go to the technical committee and ask for advice about whether it's an acceptable state or not I think that if you view the technical committee as a court of appeal and that's how you approach it you will regret that decision for a very long time I don't think people see it like that I hope they don't I'm just saying let's not start yeah yeah sure that's why I mean I proposed to the technical committee to take that insurance because I think they have real value on that they showed that they know how to discuss with people reach consensus etc there's still one global thing I think we should keep in mind is that it's quite unusual for the project to rely on having someone external say this is the good thing you should do it and having the technical committee vouch for all the things that are on the roadmap kind of changes this to if I want to do something in Debian I need to have someone say it is okay and that's where I would much much more like something where a team of motivated people prepare an initial roadmap ish that is good enough and then for things that that are controversial then we should have a wide project wide discussion anyway and if it's still very controversial and very important then at that point you can have an external body say okay well we spent some time thinking about it and it's important enough so that we rule that it is on the roadmap but having the TC agreement on all the roadmap items as default sounds kind of scary to me in a nutshell before finishing if you have a deep disagreement on some goals so obviously it's not a project goal so there is no doubt that item shouldn't be part of the roadmap yet until somewhere consensus is reached so it's up to anyone to comment on the ideas and say why it's important or why we shouldn't be doing it yeah so I think we are running out of time it's midday so the other section was about proposing ideas for the roadmap you can do it later in the gobby document yeah other questions okay anyway we are running out of time so thanks for being here we will stay in touch there will be some announcements soon I guess see you soon


Let's talk about a weird squatting variation. The Zercher squat, or Zerker, I don't really know. Z-E-C-H-E-R is how it's spelled. So this one is kind of like a front squat because the weight is in front of your body. It's a little bit weird and it's a little bit uncomfortable, but front squatting in general is uncomfortable so it can't get much worse, right? Oh, it can. So I don't have a barbell to show this to you, but the barbell sits in your elbow.   It allows you to shift back while you're squatting down. Same squatting rules apply. Feet stay flat. Don't arch your back. Don't let your back collapse. Don't let your chest cave down and maintain that position while you squat just like this. Okay, you'll see it looks a lot like a goblet squat, but instead of holding the weight here in my hands, I'm holding the weight here in the crux of my elbow. What are the advantages? So a goblet squat with the extra leverage away from you since the weight is further away from your body, it puts more torque on your back and more on your arm so it's harder to hold and it's harder to load extra weight on. But with the Zercher Squat, you keep the weight in your elbow, it sits a little closer to your body.  It might hurt a little bit, but you'll be better after. It's like free massage or something. You can actually load the Zercher Squat up a lot more. You'll feel it a lot more in your legs. It's gonna be similar to the front squat in that you're going to want to break here, you're going to want to collapse in the middle of your body in like your mid-back area and you'll see this kind of happen, this collapse. Instead, all you gotta do is you gotta monitor, one, you gotta monitor how much weight you're using. Two, you gotta monitor how much volume you're doing. Is your set too long?  Is this your fifth set and that's way too many for you? Keep those things in mind. Try to be very objective about your training. If you're seeing your positions change as you train, if say set one looks really good, but set five does not, maybe go back and see where too much was. Maybe set five was too much. Maybe set four was too much. Just try to look at everything really objectively. If you're going up and wait, same idea, right? If you can get to the lift, that doesn't mean you can get it well and that doesn't mean that it's useful for you. What I would instead suggest is picking a weight and a sets and reps range that you can maintain good positions throughout, okay? So recap, search a squat a lot like a front squat, kind of like a goblet squat, but you can use more weight. You can load your hips more, you can load your legs more.   Make sure you're not over-exerting yourself. Make sure you're challenging yourself appropriately so that you feel rejuvenated after your workout instead of shitty.


I am fabulous. Thank you for calling. Hey, not a problem. Not a problem Tell me tell me a little bit about your business We're all I'm going to be doing is my next code is that for Janitorial work, okay, I'm going to be outsourcing work to With many janitorial companies like I'm fine. Okay because the government is so big That might be an area where you may want to look at a state or local contract Okay and I'm just putting it out there because And I know people I know I'm not a fan of state or local contracts, but And there are some instances where it makes more sense and and and janitorial starting out might be one of them because the type of people that you need They're going to be locally based mm-hmm and You know so you're going to need to More than likely probably going to have to provide some sort of transportation and So you're going to need you're going to need to have it's probably going to be a Narrow span of control meaning you're going to have to micromanage a lot of this stuff It's gonna be a lot more hand-holding and Thus, I think that to starting off. You're gonna probably need to be close and proximity to where you're physically at Yeah, I say Again, that's based on your next coat. I don't say this to everyone but That type of industry Now now now if you want to and the reason why I state this is is because I So one of one of my good friends actually the guy who got me started in doing federal contracts He has a janitorial contract Right with GSA But you have to be able to cover an entire like region of the United States and I mean, that's just not starting off and The smaller janitorial contracts like that the ones that are on the basis What I've seen is normally that kind of stuff goes out to Goodwill Industries. Oh Wow, yeah good Goodwill Industries handles a lot of the Like on the basis that I worked at Goodwill Industries handles a lot of the janitorial contracts Because they they work they handle they work with people with special needs and stuff. I Say yeah, so they they have they're privy to a lot of that local stuff But you know like I said and then the other route is the big big stuff, which again, you're not in a position to do So I would say You know, I would look at for you for that particular code You know what what have you found so in the beginning it just kind of sounds like depth away from Or at least just take a step back from the janitorial work until I am fully conditioned to kind of dive into that field. No, why why not just start at this local level? Just start locally. Yeah, well, I mean why not start the little so So in terms of like okay, so so to say to start locally like well, what do I do? Like where do I go at this point? Instead of registering for the federal websites you register for the local one so you register for whatever city is In your area, right? So whatever that city is or if it's a municipality, whatever that municipality is like for example, we have here In Miami, we have the city of Miami But we also have Miami-Dade County. So the county has 40 plus different Municipalities within our county and I would imagine Atlanta structure similarly, but I don't know you know, so we have So what I'm stating is the same You know, it's it's very similar the registration Except you registering for the municipalities as opposed to the, you know, the federal side Got it. So here we've got city of Miami. We've got El Portel North Miami Beach Miami Beach You know, then we have a homestead, you know, it's so we just have a lot of different cities Hialeah Miami Gardens and all those cities have janitorial services Okay, that is probably going to be almost identical to Atlanta. That's gonna be in a what? To Georgia, just the way it is here. It's the way that's set up. So yeah, so I mean, I would look at starting at that level and Then you from that level you can build past performance So in my mind and and obviously let me know if I'm wrong like the way that I had visualized this to go was to Reach out to just you know, a couple of Companies that are already established dealing janitorial work right and saying hey, I have this contract here Interested in shooting it over to you guys to Pretty much be a part of the team not the contractors say but just bring you guys in on board and you're saying Yes Locally, but don't do that outside of the state of Georgia.  Well, because they're gonna ask you for your past performance in your history and you're gonna have to provide references Okay, so how they're not gonna choose they're gonna when you go to a meet so I'll give you an example I'm going to I'm representing a client and I'm flying this week to a meeting Up in Massachusetts, and then I'll be in Rhode Island for another meeting next week Part of the meetings they ask you to bring your team, who would you bring? Oh I think yeah, if they ask you like for example, I let the complete beginning stages of this That's what I'm saying. I'm just trying to figure this out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, you know, again part of I'm not opposed to you doing that, but you could do the same thing like me like I don't have I don't have any employees in Massachusetts or Rhode Island, but You know, I'm working with a company that does have all those resources But they don't have any they don't have anyone that's pursuing the federal marketplace So I come in and that's where I come in I take on their name as if though I'm an employee I take on their name. I use all their information and then I get us meetings and I land us And then I could bring a team and then I could just tell them whoever we need to bring So for in my case, we have a big meeting coming up in October at the Naval yard and he asked me to bring my superintendent my quality control guy and a project manager and So I can bring a whole team to the table for meeting and then they could answer any technical questions that the government may have And that basically pre-qualifies us for projects already So then they can start basically Negotiating directly with us for upcoming projects Stay in touch. Don't disappear. Okay. I will definitely stand up. All right. Take care. Great. Bye. Thanks. Bye