Who's ready to get spooky? Welcome back, it is time for the October edition of TBR Clue. It's one of God's masterpieces. If you don't know, this is my TBR game inspired by Cluedo or Clue, if you're American, I call it Cluedo. If you've never seen TBR Cluedo, I will leave the link down below to the playlist and to the first video where I go through all the rules, everything you need to know. But if you do know how it goes, hello, welcome back. I'm so excited. These are my favorite videos to film. I just love this game so much. I just love it so much. I'm so excited for this month. October, I've never, okay, I've never felt so excited for spooky season. I've never, like, here's the thing. Seasonal depression. Seasonal depression. Seasonal depression. So when it starts getting darker, not my favorite thing. But this year I just feel a lot more excited for the autumnal kind of vibe, more than I ever really have. So I'm looking forward to it. So I want to read loads of spooky books this month. Lots of horror books that I want to read that I want to try and fit on this TBR. Lots of murder mysteries I would quite like to read. It's the season. It is the season for murder mysteries and for horror. Just before we get into it, I wasn't able to show you these last month because we hadn't finished making them yet. But I wanted to show you the TBR Cluedo books that my patrons will get if you join the Rora tier, aren't they so cute? So this is going to be the next pair that goes out to whoever signs up next. Then this is the pair after. They come in loads of colors. There's like golds, greens, but you get one number, which is the number that you were to join the tier, and you get a book with a paw print on it and their little books. Aren't they just so cute? In other good news, I can now use the rose prompt. I don't know if you can see, but this is entirely filled with book recommendations or books that my patrons have picked. So all my patrons when they join, they can pick two books off of my TBR that they want me to read. And then if I choose the rose weapon in the game, I randomly pick a book out of here and it is so full. But I'm excited. I want to try and get that in this round. In terms of how I did with September's TBR, I had these five books plus the audiobook for other words for home on it. I have read these three and other words for home already. I am currently reading Nancy Drew, The Bungalow Mystery, and I will finish this today. And I have not yet started a song of race and ruin, but I have to read this by the end of the month. I'm currently filming this on the 26th. I have to finish this by the end of the month because the video that it's for has to go up in September. So I will definitely read this. So I'm not going to take a punishment this month. If for some reason I do not finish a song of race and ruin, I will take a punishment. I'll let you know in a vlog, but I think we're going to be fine. I don't think we have anything to worry about. So without further ado, I think it's time to get into the first roll and see how kind TBR Cluedo is to me this month. So here's roll one. The fact that I only have two books in horror, and this month I want to read so much horror is going to be so hard, but I really want to try and use the rose prompt today. I really want to try and get that so my patrons can pick a book. Okay, first roll. Okay, we've got person number three, which is red. And let's see how many things we can roll. Okay, we've got a two and a six. I'm hoping I can get into horror with that. So let's see. So that's eight. So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Okay, great. So that is number 27, which is a book rated three stars on Goodreads. Okay, so roll one was a horror rated three stars on Goodreads. So this is any horror that is rated three point something on Goodreads. And this is actually the round that I chose for my patrons to vote on. So if you don't know, my patrons every month will vote on one round of TBR Cluedo and that book will become our book club book for the month and they'll get a live show for an exclusive reading blog for it. I knew I wanted to try and have our book club book this month be a horror. So the choices that I gave them were Pine by Francine Toon, Horrid by Katrina Leno, The Luminous Stead by Caitlin Starling, and Hashtag Murder Trending by Gretchen McNeil. And it was pretty neck and neck between these two for the whole vote. But in the end, Hashtag Murder Trending pulled ahead. Well, she tried at least, you know, she... So I'm really excited to read this. This is a dystopian horror. And this one is about these executions that are live streamed and voted on. So it's kind of mixed media. It's got like tweets. I don't know if you can really see that, but it's got like tweets where people are like talking about who should be killed, who should be executed in this game show. That's all I really know about it. But I'm really excited to start this series. And I'm really excited to read this with my patrons as our book club book for October. I think it's gonna be a bit different, anything I've read before, because A, I don't read a lot of horror and B, I don't read a lot of dystopian style stuff. So I'm excited. I've wanted to get into this series for pretty much like the whole year. I've been wanting to start this. So I'm glad that my patrons finally gave me a kick up the arse and I'm gonna read it.  You've been a great out today. That's all right. Thank you. Bye.  I feel like it's gonna be very black mirrory, very funny. I've heard it's just kind of like a fun, well as fun as executions can be, but like a fun rompy kind of horror thriller kind of thing. So really excited to read this in October. Okay, time for roll two. Person number one, which is green. Okay, so we're basically in the horror room again. Get our two horror rolls out of the way first I guess. And then let's roll this. Okay, we've got nine that time. I think let's try and just get the other horror whilst we're here. So, oh, I can use three or six, because I don't know if to use the combo. So I could use six. Let's go. One, two, three, no. One, two, three, four, no. One, two, three, four, five, no. I don't know if I can get there in six. One, two, three, four, oh my god. All right, let's try with nine. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, no. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. Okay, we did it. And that is number 19, which is a book I've hauled recently. So roll two was a horror that I have hauled recently. I wanted to make sure I got both the horror prompts that I could in this round. I've hauled a lot of horror recently. And the one I've chosen is the most recent horror book that I have hauled. So recent I haven't actually had a chance to include it in a haul video yet. And it is White Smoke by Tiffany D Jackson. If you follow me on like Twitter, I've been speaking about this a lot. But this is like one of my most anticipated releases of the year. It's this haunted house horror. I am just so excited. I've always wanted to read Tiffany D Jackson stuff and now I'm going to I think it's just going to be like very psychological crazy. I've always wanted to read haunted house stuff that I do have like a haunted house book excites me. I'm just really excited for the suspense this book is going to build. So this copy was very kindly sent to me. I think it is out definitely in the US now. I'm not sure if it is quite out in the UK now. But I'm just so excited for this in October. I feel like this is the number one book I wanted to make sure I read in October. So I was very lucky that a prompt led itself to that success. Very, very excited to read this in October. Okay, roll three. Person number five, which is white. Oh my God. Okay, we're down here. Okay, let's see how many things we roll four and a four. Oh, can we get to the rows prompt with that? One, two, three, four, five, six.  One, two, three, four, five, six. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. No. Okay, so I've never actually used the stairs yet, but the rule is I have to go one, two, three, count another thing four, because it has to use up a roll to get there. So maybe that will work. So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Oh my God, we did it. Okay, so we got the rows prompt. Okay, so for roll three, I got the rows weapon. I'm so excited, but I'm honestly shitting myself. I am shitting myself. I'm nervous because there's so many different books in here. I have no idea what it's going to be. Okay, so I'm going to give it a good shake. Oh my God, I'm trying to, oh, this one's falling out. I'm trying to get to one deep down. Okay, oh my God, I'm so nervous. What is it? What is that? Hunting Prince Dracula? Oh, lucky, because I already was kind of thinking about reading this this month. I wasn't sure because I have not read the first book, Stork and Jack the Ripper, in like two years. But I remember last October, November, I really wanted to read Hunting Prince Dracula, but I didn't own it then, and then kind of the time passed, but I feel like it's very much like an autumnal book. I cannot believe how lucky I've got. So let me find out who, what patrons submitted Hunting Prince Dracula. I don't think it was a super popular one that a lot of people said. Okay, so it was only one patron submitted Hunting Prince Dracula, which is crazy because there's quite a lot of books that like five people submitted, but one person submitted Hunting Prince Dracula and it was Nikki. So Nikki, I am reading this thanks to you this month. I am just so excited. Oh my God, it just feels so autumnal, so exciting. I read Stork and Jack the Ripper two years ago, so it's been a while since I was in this book universe, but I think it's going to be quite an easy series to pick back up again because it's not exactly the most complex. So in this we're following Audrey Rose Wadsworth and Thomas Cresswell and their kind of relationship, and in the first one they're trying to figure out who Jack the Ripper is. It's set in Victorian England, which my favorite, and then I think this one obviously they're going to be hunting down Prince Dracula, and I'm so excited to get back into this Victorian autumnal kind of spooky kind of creepy world.  You've done me a solid. I am just so excited. Oh, I forgot how much I loved the pictures in this book. Just brings the vibe alive. Oh my God, I am so happy. I am so, so happy. I want to jump up and down. I want to do a dance, and then I want to have the glass of champagne that I put in the fridge last night. What a good pick the Patriots put through at the Rose Probe. I am so happy. I'm so excited. This is on my list. Okay, row number four already. Oh my God. Okay, row number four, five. Is that white again? Yes, it is. Okay, we've got white again, and let's see what we roll. Eight again. Okay, I don't have much fantasy. I want to read this month, if I'm honest. I might actually go back, after all of that, I might actually go back into the romance room. After all that effort, I think I may go back into the romance room because I actually have barely got any like fantasy fantasy on my TBR. I mean, I could read some, but I think I'm leaning towards more romance. So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, which is number six. And that is something with white on the cover. Okay, so for roll four, we've got a romance, which you know, I don't read a lot of them, with white on the cover. And for this, I have actually chosen The Love Hypothesis by Ali Hazelwood. Now I was not planning on reading this book. I was not planning on reading it, but I am actually excited to. It is a Book of the Month book, which I didn't think to be the first Book of the Month book that I have that I read, but it is. I think it's about these two scientists and one's a PhD candidate, one's a young young professor, which like, I've heard some people talk about the power balance there, but I think a lot of people, you know, the PhD candidate is like mature and the professor is very young and she's not his PhD student. So it's not like they're each other's teacher and student. But I've actually heard really good things about this. A lot of people have been reading it and I have heard only good things. I haven't heard anyone dislike it. So maybe this will be a romance I love. Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? But we're going to be reading it this month. Right, roll five already. We're almost there. Person number eight, which is blue. Oh my God, I can't escape fantasy. I don't think, I think we're going to have to read fantasy. Something that's fantastical. Let's roll this. Oh my God. That was, that was crazy. Oh, okay. Interestingly, we rolled a double, which means I can move that much and go again. But what I really want to read this month, it's up here, mysteries and historicals. I've got a lot of them that I want to read this month. So how far can we get? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12. Okay, we're going to do that. And we're going to roll again. Oh, we got seven. Okay. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Okay. We got that one. And that is number five. Roll five, number five. Oh, okay. That's something with blue on the cover. Roll five was a mystery with blue on the cover. And for this, I have chosen Dead Dead Girls by Nikiza Appiah. No, hang on a minute. I like this. Oh my God. So the font is blue. She's wearing a blue dress. There's lots of blue. I feel like the whole cover is like tonally blue. I think it's fine. So I am so excited. This has been one of my number one, like most anticipated books to get to. It's set in 1920s Harlem and young black girls are going missing. And our main character kind of takes it upon herself to investigate it and figure out what's going on. Now, a number one thing to say, this is not a cozy mystery. This is dark. I think it goes into a lot of very, very dark subjects. The kind of cover makes it look a bit cozy. I feel like the kind of illustration style, but it's not. It's a very dark series, but I'm just so excited. I bought this from the recommendation of Mara from Books Like Woe. She has been a number one person I've been going to for like my mystery recommendations. So I am very excited that I got this on my TBR for this month. Oh my God. I hope I love it. If I love this, I will just, this is like a five-star prediction. I really, I really hope I'm going to love it. Time for our last roll. Person number seven, which is brown. Where's brown? Oh, in mystery again. Okay, that's great. And then let's roll this. A seven again, a three or a four. Let's maybe just go one, two, three, four. Yeah. And that's number, what is that? 18. Number 18. The longest title. And then roll six. The last round was a mystery with the longest title. So I went on my Goodreads shelf for my mysteries and the longest titles, there was a couple of them, they all had six words. So I just chose one of them that I wanted to read one of the titles with six words. And it is Marion Lane and the Midnight Murder by T.A. Wilberg. This is another one of, it's another 2021 new release that I have just been so excited to get to. I remember I was doing one of my last uni projects and I bought this like as a reward for myself for finishing it, because I was at that point at the end of uni when I was just so stressed and like really, really struggling. So I bought this for myself as a reward. It's about this like group of private detectives and there's this like underground labyrinth in London that they used to like move from different parts of London to the other. I also believe it's a locked room murder mystery. Like I think there's a murder in this locked room and Marion Lane, I think starts out as like a secretary or an apprentice and she is trying to figure out what happened. And I'm so excited. It's another like five-star prediction. Both of these, I am just like, I am so excited to read. I'm really hoping I'm going to love them. And I'm really excited to get into like more like murder mystery, both historical murder mysteries, well I do love my historical murder mysteries. So I'm super excited to get to these this month. So there we have it. That is my TBR for October. A few larger books but I'm so excited to read all of these. I feel like this is such a good October TBR. Let me know if you've read any of these or the ones you are most excited to read. I'm so excited for all of them. I generally think this is such a good October TBR. I'm so happy. I feel like The Board treated me really well. I feel like it was very kind to me. I can't believe how lucky I got with The Rose Prompt. That was a book I was already debating reading in October. So I am just so happy. If you've gotten to the end, comment a snake emoji because there's a lot of snakes on this cover. And I'm intrigued to find out why. Why are there snakes? So yeah, comment a snake emoji down below if you've gotten to the end. Thank you so much for all your support on TBR Kudo. I absolutely love making it. Thank you to my patrons as well. Shout out to you. And thank you so much for watching. I hope you enjoyed it. I will see you very soon in another video. Bye.


Hello in this lecture we will define employee benefits. According to fundamental accounting principles Wild 22nd edition the definition of employee benefits is additional compensation paid to or on behalf of employees such as premiums for medical dental life and disability insurance and contributions to pension plans. When we're thinking about employee benefits we're really thinking about those types of compensations that are not cash most of the time. Anything that we are receiving from the employer is thought to be some form of compensation. The reason we're receiving something is because we are working for the employer and the employer is providing some type of compensation. We generally think of compensation in the form of cash but anything we receive would be some form of compensation. Why would an employer provide some of these other forms of compensation? One of the main reasons is that there's tax benefits to them. So the fact that we're getting something that is coming from the employer means that it's going to be a type of compensation. The concept of whether it should be taxed or not is a different concept but it's a related concept because that's really what drives oftentimes forms of compensation that are outside of just a cash compensation. If we take a look at the W-2 for example we could have certain types of fringe benefits. Again fringe benefits being things that we are receiving that aren't cash and note that some of those fringe benefits at least are still going to have to be reported on the wages in terms of line one on the wages, wages that we would then have to report and be taxed on. We could have some type of employer contributions to long-term care which again we would have to be reported in certain cases as wages and therefore be taxed on. If we look at the social security wages this is going to be wages related to payments of social security just to show the difference in these types of wages from for federal income tax to social security to Medicare. This will include employee contributions to the retirement plan. Note what the difference here is that in line one of the W-2 doesn't always report accurately what the actual wages are for the employee because we could have pulled some things off that are not taxable but are really still compensation. For example if the employee put money into a 401k or some type of retirement plan it's possible that's not included in line one because it's going not going to be taxable but it is still a form of compensation. Now it can be thought that the amount that the employee puts into the 401k plan or any retirement plan is not exactly a employee benefit because the employee is the one that put that in there. But in another sense at another level the fact that there is the option to put money into a 401k plan is a large benefit to employees in the sense that the employee can put a lot more money into into that retirement plan than they otherwise would be able to most of the time if they were having to put something set up their own IRA account or something like that. So the point is that line one of the W-2 isn't always the most accurate reporting of what was actually earned during the year. Line three the social security wages could have a cap on it. Oftentimes the Medicare wages is actually the most accurate number in terms of what was actually earned in terms of the W-2. If we look down here in line 12 we could have the reporting of the employer contribution to the retirement plan. This would be an employee benefit. This would be something like a matching concept where the employer is going to put some money, match some money into that retirement plan and getting that tax benefit from doing so. That wages those wages not being reported in line one. We could have employer contributions to a health savings account similar type of idea. We could have an employer sponsored sponsored health coverage. Again similar ideas there's there's tax incentives for these and that's really what often drives the the necessity for that to happen. The employer is able to give the employee more by allowing these tax cuts and these tax breaks. Accounting. I don't know anyone in accounting.


Hello and welcome to our session. I could be calm in clown native calm North American 2023 I'm Tina Joe and advocate for infrastructure ecosystem advancement at arm and I also have the owner of serving as the board chair of LF edge in collaboration with my colleague ending from Google today we will take you through a comprehensive guide on leveraging Kubernetes for edge computing this guide is crafted to help you to understand how Kubernetes can be optimized for the edge to spearhead innovation in clown native ecosystem the best of practice that are essential for creating a resilient and scalable edge infrastructure this covered convergence of our collective efforts and promising the future they hold for technology at the edge we are excited to share our insight and look forward to a productive session focused on the robust possibility that Kubernetes brings to the edge computing welcome to our session on Kubernetes at the edge part of a could become in clown native calm North American 2023 today we will navigate through various aspects of edge computing and its growing intercession with Kubernetes our agenda includes understanding edge computing we will begin with demystifying edge computing defining what it is and discussing its importance and unique characteristics why Kubernetes in edge computing next we delve into the reasons Kubernetes is becoming a popular choice for managing for managing containerized applications at the edge highlighting its benefits in such environments Kubernetes projects on the edge we will explore several Kubernetes projects that are tailored for edge computing providing insights into how they operate their use cases Kubernetes on the edge in production this session will showcase real world examples of Kubernetes deployments at the edge emphasizing the practical consideration and best of practice LF edge catalog we'll take a look at the LF edge landscapes focusing on the catalog of projects and resource available for those looking to implement Kubernetes at the edge considerations for the future to conclude we will discuss future change potential development in edge computing and how Kubernetes expected to evolve with this space let's embark on this journey to edge computing with Kubernetes understanding its framework applications and exciting potential it holds for the future as we delve into the concept of edge computing let's visualize its ecosystem edge computing brings computation and data storage closer to the sources of data this proximity to data at its source can yield numerous benefits including significant reduction in latency and bandwidth use here is a breakdown of edge computing layers illustrated in the diagram near side edge we call your neck this is the closest edge layer to the end user located at home enterprise or in node b levels at this layer we are operating on the scale of millions of devices with latency as low as five milliseconds suitable for immediate response applications like v2x arvr and ai inference city edge as we move further from the near side edge to the city edge the scope narrows to hundreds or thousands of nodes serving applications like content delivery network cdn and more intensive arvr tasks regional edge expending our reach the regional edge integrates cloud services and can serve tens to hundreds of applications dealing with tasks that can tolerate slightly higher latency such as ai training big data analytics and video transcoding cloud at the broadest layer the cloud encompasses services that can handle larger latency over 20 milliseconds suitable for less time sensitive tasks this multi-tier architecture allows for a wide variety of applications scaling from millions of devices at the edge to tens of nodes in the cloud optimizing the network to serve specific applications needs based on latency data volume and processing power required edge computing represents a paradigm shift in how we process data by moving computation closer to where data is generated we can unlock several key benefits reduced latency edge computing allows for faster response time by processing data locally rather than sending it back and forth to a distant cloud this means actions can be taken almost instantaneously after the data is produced which is critical for applications requiring real-time decision-making such as autonomous vehicles and industry automation bandwidth efficiency with local processing we send significant less data across the network this not only speeds up the data analysis but also saves bandwidth for other uses and reduces network congestion leading to a smoother more efficient digital experience enhance the privacy and security when data is processed locally and not transmitted over a network there's a less opportunity for interception or ifs dropping this inherent reduction in data travel boasters security measurements measures and enhanced user privacy by keeping sensitive information within a confined local network understanding these advantages we can appreciate how edge computing is not just an evolution in computing architecture but a necessary step towards a more responsive efficient and secure technological ecosystem in the expanding realm of edge computing kubernetes immerse as a cornerstone technology here is why kubernetes is essential scalability as we push the boundaries of edge computing we are deploying not just a handful but thousands of edge devices kubernetes excels in handling this scale allowing for the efficient management of extensive networks of devices without compromising performance flexibility the landscape of edge computing is incredibly diverse kubernetes brings the adaptability needed with its seamless deployment and management capabilities whether you are dealing with various workloads or different types of hardware kubernetes can make it easier to deploy applications consistently and manage them efficiently resilience reliability is non-negotiable in edge computing kubernetes introduce self-healing mechanisms such as auto replacement or failed nodes auto restart of non-responsive programs and even automated scaling to ensure consistent performance this resilience is vital in maintaining the robustness required at the edge of network where physical access can be very challenging kubernetes doesn't just help to manage the complexity of edge computing it's enabling organizations to harness its full potential by offering a platform that's as dynamic and distributed as the edge environment itself adopting kubernetes for edge computing comes with a set of our best practices to maximize efficiency and security let's go over these key practices modular design simplify your applications by breaking them into smaller and dependent modules this module modular approach is ideal for deployment at the edge making your applications easier to manage and update state management and for stateless applications or synchronize stay carefully to prevent data inconsistency proper state management is crucial for ensuring high availability and reliability network optimization keep data transfer to the bare minimum without sacrificing necessary communication efficient data transfer is vital for maintaining speed and reducing latency in edge computing environment security prioritize security by securing device identity and use end-to-end encryption regular patch management is also essential to protect against against vulnerabilities resource management efficiently managed resources by optimizing cpu memory and storage usage kubernetes can help automate this optimization ensuring that your applications run smoothly logging and monitoring implement centralize the logging and real-time monitoring these practices are key for quickly identifying and resolving issues maintaining the overall health of your edge computing infrastructure by following this best practice you can ensure that your kubernetes deployment is as robust secure and efficient as possible in an edge computing context thank you tina so i'm continuing talking about this uh edge developers are using kubernetes so this is the story we did on 2021 by since f so it shows more than two-third developer in edge area already using kubernetes so uh we are doing a new one in 2023 during the co-ed but you definitely can see the trend why edge developers are using kubernetes because uh the things tina just conclude i won't elaborate but you can see the trend i think people can decide by their foods so uh here are three popular kubernetes projects in cncf there's a micro kubernetes is developed by the canonical is a fully component kubernetes with very small footprint and also k3s is developed by the renter is an official kubernetes sandbox project is developed by renter and also the kubernetes edge this uh we won't call is a kubernetes distribution because it's break down the kubernetes by cloud side and edge side do a few modifications so it's extend kubernetes in the edge computing i will elaborate at least one more in the following slides and also there's many more and also for example the open yard is developed by alibaba is very popular too so we did have a panel discussion in cncf the cloud native count 2021 however it's what a virtual uh hybrid events in la so if you are interested you can come to watch the video we invited people from renter, salesforce, alibaba cloud and all these people we discussed about compare pro and cons on the user cases for kubernetes projects in the edge computing if i interest you can look at uh watch the recording from 21 2021 cloud native count kubernetes so we plan to do another one next year's european kubernetes count to refresh the knowledge to see what's going on and what's the update so i i'm going to elaborate a little bit on the kubernetes why we use this so we use the extended kubernetes because they give us a unified deployment apis so basically before that if you want to deployment on the edge so you need to do your own ota update however with kubernetes so think about that you have you are a regular cloud application developers so what you do is just do the kubernetes control deploy or kubernetes control apply it will do that for you that's the separate from the kubernetes edge in order to solve the edge cloud communication problems we set up a channel so we replace the kubernetes apis uh apis server with a cloud core basically it at the proxy talk to the edge so instead of a simplify use the kubernetes we have a kubernetes the edge core is extended from kubernetes so they take over the communication between cloud and edge node so that solve the network problem so because it's not a kubernetes session i won't go deeper enough but with this application so you can get a benefit from kubernetes the uh unified kubernetes deployment apis uh auto scaling and also resiliency so here are some already in production examples so first is on the left basically from the cloud you talk to a highway tow booth so each tow booth you deploy as an edge node so you can see that a heterogeneous deployment what you could be the node could be running on x86 servers or it could run on arm servers because with kubernetes you can internalize your application on the edge so you compile different cores then you deploy on different nodes however the apis are the same you can accumulate data back to your cloud and do the analysis on the right is a bridge monitoring you can see the real picture how you place your edge node your sensors your devices how you communicate and use a 5g or 4g technology to communicate with your cloud you do the analysis and monitoring so here is a little bit elaborate how the actual deployment is so in order to deploy on the edge node it's impossible to go in the 100 kilometers road to update individually so and also you don't need to worry about your developer your own OTA update programs what do you do is just kubernetes apply or kubernetes update so your kubernetes kubernetes control apply a new version then your edge node application will rolling out using the same kubernetes deployment mechanism another interesting thing is a acreno acreno is an alpha edge project so tina is alpha edge tsc board member board chair i'm the tsc acreno tsc chair so we have a bunch of blueprint basically the blueprint is a combination of binary deployment to showcase how your edge computing should do and you can download the binary to verify yourself and that's all open infrastructure the application includes 5g ai and an interesting thing is that we use this one is at the edge ai even though uh this is the architecture it showcase you how you put your inference app on your device so because it's more close to your to you and without trying for all your data back to the cloud for save your bandwidth and also uh low latency and privacy so you don't need to upload your sensitive data back to the cloud it depends on where your edge located if you have a large at a city edge you can deploy large models for example lm a large language model you can deploy there however if you want to deploy on your home or even on your cell phone you probably have to have a small tailored model to deploy there we showcase this one we are going to upload this uh slides you can download from the links then you can try yourself to see how you can deploy a new application inference application on your mobile device to do the inference and also how you can update your model through a simple api without complicated your life yeah just to add a comment to the uh ai edge there so we do have a lf uh edge ai edge proposal and uh with the hyperscalers join us bring in their own large language model our first showcase will be using the open ai whisper model for the voice recognition and uh we probably do some fine tune for the verticals and we'll showcase with hugging face and so welcome to join we have uh apm california time every monday we have meeting you can find the wiki page on the lf edge today uh we are delving into the lf edge catalog and advance the solution designed for managing linux foundation edge applications with ease and efficiency comprehensive uh uh repository the lf edge catalog stands as a comprehensive uh repository centralized the resources and simplifying deployment uh processes for users it emphasizes on harnessing edge computing for potential without the adding complexity catalog features it's just like you're walking and for a store is a can i try on for two days here you go you got a car you try on every single aspects of the car for two days the catalog exhibits the smarter application stack reflecting its adaptability and breadth it demonstrates how the catalog supports diverse iot smart cities and emerging technologies applications by making dunking tasks manageable catalog impact this tour is instrumental in driving the evolution of edge computing highlighting essential areas such as iot and smart cities it's designed to transform complex challenges into streamlined processes and fastest innovation in the edge computing domain target audience is the lf edge catalog is tailored for developers and it professionals it acts as a bridge for those inch guilt by edge computing it providing a platform to explore an experiment call to action we encourage you to utilize the lf edge catalog to facilitate more efficient operations and departments it's an open innovation to partake in shaping the future of edge computing with the lf edge catalog as your guidebook yeah i hope you enjoy driving the car for two days but leveraging the lf edge catalog you position yourself at the full front of edge computing innovation prepare to tackle the challenges and opportunities that come with this rapidly evolving technology landscape as we look forward the horizon of kubernetes edge computing there are critical considerations that will shape our journey ahead interability the key to a seamless connected future lies in interability with an ever-expanding universe of devices ensuring they can communicate and work together is non-negotiable it's about creating a cohesive ecosystem where compatibility is the cornerstone sustainability our technology must not only be smart but also sustainable we are steering towards incorporating power efficient devices and harnessing renewable energy sources like solar panel solar power for edge devices the aim is to minimize the carbon footprint of our technological advancement regulations i see somebody from government is sitting hi so staying updated with the evolving landscape of data privacy laws is um imperative as regulations tighten globally our systems and operations must adapt to maintain the compliance and protect user privacy these three pillars interability sustainability and regulations will guide us as we navigate the challenges and opportunities in kubernetes edge computing by adjusting these areas with foresight and innovation we set the stage for a resilient and responsible tech ecosystem as we cut imitate our discussion on kubernetes and edge computing it's clear that these technologies are not just parallel checks but are converging to propel cloud native innovation forward unify the progress kubernetes serves as the orchestration backbone while edge computing edge computing extends the reach of our cloud capability together they are a synergistic force ushering in a few error of disability computing that is more accessible efficient and scalable best practice integration embracing best practices is more than a recommendation it's a necessity for creating an edge infrastructure that is resilient and agile by committing to standards and continuous improvement we can navigate the complexities of modern computing environments confidentially or confidentially i mean in summary the intersection where kubernetes meets edge computing is fertile ground for technological growth by forcing collaboration prioritizing innovation and adhering the best practice we position ourselves at the forefront of transformative wave in the industry here is to a future where the potential of cloud native technologies is fully realized in a world that's always on and always connected thank you all for your participation and attention today and it's been a pleasure discussing kubernetes for edge computing and its impact on building resilient and scalable applications we hope you found this session insightful and that it sparks further innovation in your projects we do greatly appreciate your feedback to continue improving and making these sessions more valuable for you please take a moment to scan the qr code display on the screen and share your source on this session your input is crucial for us to learn and grow and we look forward to hearing from you once again thank you for joining us at kubernetes and cloud native calm north america 2023 i see somebody going to the mic no yeah we have five minutes left if you have any questions feel free to go to the mic thank you


Yeah. Okay. So welcome everybody to the Monday, February 22nd, 2021 edition of the month of your planning commission. First item on this is a call to order to the meeting. First agenda item is approval of the agenda. I think I'll just point out that we had discussed a change to the agenda, which is to remove number seven, the continued discussion of the removal of residential density caps and the unified development regulations. We had decided to take that off of the agenda, given the absence of a number of commissioners tonight. So I think with that change, I'd ask for unanimous consent to approve the agenda with that modification. Hearing no objection. Hearing no objections is passed by unanimous consent. Next is the comments from the chair. I think very briefly we just recognize that Kirby's had a loss of his family. And, you know, we appreciate his efforts as chair at the commission and continued efforts that will no doubt go on in the future. But I think we all understand that he has other things to focus on right now and wish him the best and certainly he has my condolences. I'm sure from the other commissioners as well. Next is general business. I don't see any, do we have anybody from the public on the call who would like to speak to something that's on Eden. Okay, then. Moving on to number five, which is considered the minutes of February 8 2021. Has everybody had a chance to review those minutes from the last meeting. I'm not very abbreviated, but we did have a pretty short meeting that time, didn't we. Was that a shortened meeting. Yeah, it was a little short. Well, I'm sorry, I, I broke up that you broke up there a little bit for me. I don't know if it was just my connection or yours, but I'm sorry I didn't hear you. Oh, it could be my connection. I'm just wondering if it was a short meeting because the, the minutes are are very short. I don't know if they're in fact anything more that we discussed. I just don't have my notes with me. I don't think so. I mean the, we had a conversation about the continuity and structure stuff, but it was just me. And so that took up some time, but I don't think it need, I don't think we need details in the minutes. Yeah, I think there was some, we kind of got like a more informative, like more information from Mike about the density cap. So I don't think we discussed much. Okay. Erin, are you looking for a motion to approve? Did we lose Erin? It looks like we lost him.  It was his connection. I think we should have a little song for the beginning of our like a little intro music for the beginning of our thing. Does Orca put intro music on her? I don't know. I haven't watched that. They don't. We could do that. Just the way Erin said like welcome to this edition of the Montpelier Planning Commission. I felt like you could have a little. Is he back? It's the only, it's the only pizzazz I could put on to the intro. Right. I was just saying, if we had a little jingle, it would be even better. Like some of the music from the game shows. Barely. My connection's real. Hold on just a second. I'm going to. You're already down to just audio. So hopefully that's better. Oh, maybe he could call. That's true. Did you see the chat, Marcella? No, there is intro music, according to Tammy. Thanks, Tammy. Well, this might curtail our meeting anyway. Yeah, we've lost him completely now. He's not showing up. And our participants any longer back. Yeah. Maybe he's trying to call in sometimes the call in stuff takes a little bit longer because you got to go and punch in the eight digit numbers and then. So we'll give him, give him a minute to see if he. Does he have all the information he would need? Yeah, that's in the minutes. Or in the item. Oh, all right. Yeah. Invite. Yeah, my problem was I couldn't get to the invite the time I had to call in. So I couldn't get the information. Well, we'll see. Sorry, everybody. I'm back. I apologize. We just have too, too many folks streaming stuff in my home right now. So. Well, it sounds a lot better. Yeah, I think, I think I'm, I think I'm in a better spot. Okay. Good. I'm sorry. Where are we? We were looking at the minutes. We were saying that they were brief, but I don't think anybody thought that there was anything missing. So we were wondering if you wanted to unanimous consent those or if you wanted a motion. Yeah, I'd ask for unanimous consent to pass the meeting. The minutes. That's good. Hearing, hearing the objections, they are approved unanimously. Next is to receive an update from the transportation subcommittee. Okay.  As you have done. The lion share by far of the work on this. This so far. Well, okay. Basically what we were trying to do was working within, within the chapter that M to gave us, but I think. I think that's the first part of the discussion. I think, I'm going to start by saying that there was a lot of overlap between Ariana and me. Determined that there was a lot of overlap between many of their sections. And they're, you saw that there was redundancy. And also. So there was that issue that we tried to clean up by. Essentially assigning strategies. that they were not also overlapping. So there's that issue. And then the second issue being aesthetic considerations, things like they said that they wanted to make sure that the streets were wasn't pleasant to look at, but it was something along those lines. So when we had questions about that, we talked about as to whether or not those should be left in. I think the biggest issue was that they are subjective. And so then the question comes down to pleasant to look at by whom. And the question also came up amongst us, I think, is whether or not things like the complete streets or the streetscape studies would already have touched on that. So as long as we make sure that the transportation section references those and some of their strategies are to adopt to those, then that would be accomplishing the same thing. And I don't know if you can speak to that, Mike, whether or not the streetscapes and the downtown master plan, the complete streets plan would also be addressing those aesthetic considerations. Well, they would be. I mean, that's really the implementation. You can have subjective goals and aesthetics. The reason why they felt the aesthetics is important is because you can look at a number of pictures of different urban environments. And the ones that are successful, the ones that are vibrant, the ones that have a lot of activity are ones that are designed with these pedestrian amenities and things that are attractive. It's not just blank walls. Yeah, you can have a sidewalk that goes up East State Street that goes up along city center. But it's really not an attractive, inviting public space that is going to invite interaction of people. So the aesthetics is important to the pedestrian environment. Cars don't care. People in cars, yeah, it's nice to look out the window and see stuff. But really for pedestrians, having an attractive pedestrian environment, something with the trees and those things is important. And how we would accomplish it, how we would implement that is going to be in a lot of ways through our streetscape plans and in our architectural and design review requirements. And I think that's how a subjective goal is OK and would get implemented through these other things. And that was where the Transportation Committee focused. And that's why they brought up the importance of starting to make things attractive. It does seem as if the things that make an attractive pedestrians is to have no cars. I mean, to take over the space as a pedestrian oriented rather than allowing cars in there at all. But that's just my editorial comment. That's not where they were going. I was commenting. I know, I know. But their comment was that the cars. That is ultimately that the conclusion is that you end up with Church Street if you want an optimal pedestrian environment. If it's just aesthetic, Barry has wonderful public art along the sidewalks on the main street. And Montpelier lacks a lot of that. So I think this could tie into the public art. I don't remember if that was going to be a chapter. I feel like we're going to have an arts culture chapter. But there's a plan. So I would imagine that had something to do with. I know that they were addressing alleyways. There's several alleyways on state main. I think that that is all very relevant and not have anything to do with getting rid of cars. OK, so we could certainly put those back as long as we had a clear idea, I think, of what the, as a goal, if we had an idea that the strategies relied upon the streetscape plans, adopting the streetscape plans or implementing them. And I don't know necessarily where we are as a city in terms of implementing the, for example, the scoping study that was done or because that had to do with some elements of that. But also the master plan. No, what did they call it's downtown plan? Downtown, yeah, the streetscape master plan. Streetscape master plan, OK. And where we are in terms of that, whether or not we're adopting it. That plan was adopted by city council as a plan for us to start to move forward on. So we could say that one of the strategies would be to implement it. Yeah, OK, fine. Yeah, we can certainly add that element back in. All right, so that answers the question about aesthetics. Are you satisfied with that, Erin, too? As the other transportation member, is he here? He didn't tell me. I'm here, I'm just struggling with the mute button. Yeah, that makes sense to me. All right, OK, good. Yeah, because we did have some question about that. Yeah, no, I think Mike's done a good job of tying it what the transportation committee's thinking was on it. I think that makes sense. OK. Yeah, and taking a step back to your original, your first point on reorganizing things. I am not opposed. Again, this is as much you, the planning commission's plan as mine is the planning director to try to help guide the process. I did find they worked six, nine months to put this together. But it does have some inconsistency pieces between the different aspirations that they had in it. So I recognize that. And if you felt you had a better way of fitting the pieces together that didn't necessarily undo a lot of what they did, now, we as the planning commission, or you as the planning commission, have the right to go through and say, you know what, you guys did this. We don't think this may be your direction. We don't think this is the direction the city is going to go. But I think it's if we want to try to keep the spirit of what they did, they spent a lot of time balancing between two groups, you know, the we don't want cars in the downtown group and the other group, which is, you know what, cars are a reality. They're going to continue to be a reality. And we need to better balance how we approach. It shouldn't be autos first, everything else second. It shouldn't be alternative transportation is this secondary piece that we need to put everybody on an equal playing field and that we want to maximize these other opportunities. And if that means, for example, cars have a slower opportunity, it's harder to get through the downtown driving, that's OK. But we're not removing the cars. But if it makes it safer to have a 15-mile-an-hour speed limit, then we should have a 15-mile-an-hour speed limit. And if the cars have to drive slower, then so be it. And those types of decision making, that I think was where the Transportation Committee got to and they wanted to make sure that it isn't a requirement to have a car. That's not to say we're abolishing cars, but it's not a requirement to have a car. So how can we make a community where you can live without a car, where it is walkable and it is bikeable. It's a bikeable for people of all ages and abilities. And that's really where the, I guess, the striving for peace is for them. And that's going to be here and harder. Downtown, that's one complex. But you also have places of, what if you're out on Berlin Street? How does that dynamic work? How do you get down Sherwood Drive? And those types of things. So they recognize this isn't just the downtown. We want to be able to live anywhere in our city. And it may be really hard if you're out on Gould Hill to live without a car. But we do want to have it as much as possible, that people have the ability to live in Montpelier and not just on Berry Street and not just on Liberty Street. And I think that was their goal. But I think if we can reorient this. I found that to be their most compelling aspiration or goal. And then the second one being safety. So where many of the things they said seemed to fall into that. And in fact, in the first one, it should be possible for anyone to live in Montpelier without a car because there are alternative transportation systems. So somebody could live out on Gould Hill and use my ride and be able to get wherever they need to within the city. So the support of public, I guess what we call public transit. I don't know if that's necessarily the best way to put it, but it's really critical. And I think that that seemed to have a little bit less stress than maybe it needed to. So there were some areas where we felt that, as you said, it was uneven. And I certainly, because I heard quite a bit about the discussions going on, that I know that they were balancing different opposing forces. So the way I see it as our role is that we can come in and say, yes, these are all really good elements of your chapter. These are very important pieces and sort of be the bridge so that it doesn't end up seeming as if there are some disparate, desperate differing sections that don't seem to quite come together. Anyway, that's sort of the way I saw it. What do you think, Erin? I know Ariane's not here, but. Yeah, I think at the end of the day, I think you've sort of hit the nail on the head. This has been really helpful because I think we, to be honest, at least my approach when I was reading it is I was sort of looking, I was trying to figure out how to streamline things sort of given what we had gotten from the Transportation Committee. And because I think we were, at least I was probably more focused on the inconsistencies and trying to figure out how to reconcile that stuff. And I think maybe my initial reaction was just let's remove some things and figure out what sort of the core objectives are. We sort of strip away some of the stuff that didn't make sense to us. And I just think we probably need to go back and take a closer look given what Mike said and try to figure out how to integrate these things, these concepts into our outline and make them work. It's just going to take a little more elbow grease than at least I've given it, certainly. Yeah, they debated two different ways of framing stuff. So they went through, as I said, this was probably at least a nine-month process for them. And so one way they had started to group things together was in the modes of transit. So let's have, and I think that's what we end up with, was let's have the overall aspiration, but then we're gonna have a goal that talks about walking and a goal that talks about biking and a goal that talks about cars and a goal that talks about public transit and a goal that talks about shared transit. And so kind of going by mode, let's break down our aspiration into different goals by mode. And then there was another version that was really starting to look at the, I guess, the infrastructure of things. So talking about, you know, let's just talk about as the roadways or the road right of ways. And then we have some others, like we've got bike paths and trails that are, you know, so we could block them into different groups that way of, you know, talking about complete streets. You know, we really don't nail down complete streets in the version that the Transportation Committee has. They talk about the complete streets plan, but they're not really talking about them as three or four different uses in the same right of way. They talk about four different uses that happen to be all in the same place, as opposed to talking about the right of way where we've got all four uses. So there's kind of. Other than maybe in the safety, when they consider safety, because that has to be safety between all of the different uses. Yeah, and the integrated nature was another place where they had a hard time. They had a very hard time. When I kept bringing up the, how do we do it integrated? How do we get the word integrated? Because really we wanna be able to make sure we talk about the fact that somebody may take a bike to a bus stop and then get on a bus with their bike and then be able to go somewhere else or be able to ride a bike because everybody eventually becomes a pedestrian.  So everybody eventually becomes a pedestrian, whether you take public transit or bike or take a car. So there's just, making sure everything is integrated is really important because if we can't connect people, if everything is dependent, then you end up getting places, almost getting places, I guess, would be the better way of saying it. So that's the section on an integrated multimodal system. Yeah, we did try to bring, to touch on that as much as we could. And then part of that too had to do with access. It seemed as if we should have, they mentioned making things accessible to everyone. But I think we're lacking in some strategies on that, but not really knowing, because there are access issues in terms of physical ability, but then there are also access issues in terms of economic, so that all of those kind of come into it, but their goals seem to be to make sure that all the systems were accessible. Does that seem fair? Yeah, and in the way they structured, it did create issues. And I think I pointed out in an earlier meeting that when they talked about having walking, biking, driving as their modes, and that's how they broke it out into their plan, automatically saying walking, as opposed to talking about the facility, if we were talking about the facility, we would be talking about sidewalks in Montpelier will be safer, easier, and more attractive. Well, that sidewalk can be used by people with disabilities. We're not just talking about walking. I mean, when you put your box and say, we're gonna have our goal to be, people can walk places. It's like, well, wait, what about people who can't walk? And it's like, well, we assume them when we're talking about this. It's like, well, we shouldn't be. We really should, you know, if we talked about the infrastructure, if we put it in that box, that gets this easier, but then some other things become more difficult. So I think there are challenges to how we organize this. My hope would be if somebody finds a better way to organize it, awesome. I think if we captured their spirit and reorganized it in one piece, and then in a separate piece, we say, here's how from a policy standpoint, we as a planning commission disagree with the Transportation Committee and would make these modifications. So I think if we kind of break it into two pieces, I think they would feel better about making sure they're being heard. And that this wasn't a bit of, as we would say in planning parlance tokenism. Would you acknowledge that what is there, including the sections that we say were removed between what's written and what we say is removed, that that covers their entire plan? Yeah, the goals may be different because we've reorganized them or the aspirations may be different, but the spirit of what they had is here. We just put it in a different box in a different way. We've reorganized it, but we think what you guys talked about is here. And again, they went through different models. I think they're better or worse. And I think that's what we tried to do, but the questionable areas became the ones that were removed. And some of those too had to do, there was some question about whether or not those would fit into a policy chapter. I mean, I guess I'm not totally clear about, for example, one of them was enforcing speed limits in the downtown. They had to do with enforcement issues. And it seemed to me that that wouldn't be part of the plan necessarily, but it would be part of a policy that the city should adopt as if we haven't already. But that some of those issues didn't fall into a planning document. Some of the sections that were removed, if you look at those and see that there's a question about should those be in a public policy chapter. Yeah, and then we won't have a separate chapter on policies really. As I was saying, in my email back to each piece, we kind of want to have a goal. And then the strategies are the policies and the programs and the projects that help us achieve that goal. And we kind of want to, if we do all the strategies, do we achieve our goal? If we achieve all of our goals, will we achieve our aspiration? So it's kind of meant to work that way. So to kind of remove a whole bunch of policies over there, it kind of misses some of the key pieces of how are we going to be safer in the downtown? How do we, maybe somebody on Berlin Street, that'd be a perfect example. People on Berlin Street don't believe it's safe because there's insufficient enforcement of speed limits. Or just ask, why do we have speed limits? We have speed limits because it's part of our transportation plan to make a safe transportation network. So even in, okay, so yes, we have speed limits, but the enforcement is also part of the plan in your view? Well, we just, I think in a lot of cases, it talks about the administration and enforcement of just the traffic rules that are in effect. Right. And I think that's, I think a statement to that is perfectly fine to go through and say, that's part of how we make a safe transportation network is by establishing rules and regulations and enforcing and administering them. Okay, all right, so it's something. We could put that all together into one. Yeah, I see what you're saying. You know, and as you were talking about that, I'm thinking, you know, there are some that we could add in. For example, it would be a lot safer for crosswalks if there weren't people parked on both sides of the crosswalk, you know, that's not something necessarily that they touched on, but that would certainly make it safer. So I guess the question is, how much ladder do we as a planning commission want to take in terms of adding sections? And you'll see on the document that there was some, there was at least one section that we added because it seemed as if there weren't strategies to go along with it. And I don't have it in front of me. Yeah, I saw that you had added some in and that's fine to add some in if there are things that are missing. I would hate to throw out, but I could or I might if you guys want, I can send you some of the earlier structures of how I had structured the chapter because I gave them, you know, as I did with all of the chapters, I write a mock one out. And, you know, they kind of didn't take that structure, they wanted to do their own, but it might give you another idea of how to look at the structure. Not that I want everybody to go back to mine, but. Does this one resemble one of yours? What you have in front of you, in terms of looking at the aspirations, the goals. With yours or with? Yeah, with ours. I mean, yeah. Well, I think there are a couple of. I guess I'm looking for what are the issues here? Are we satisfied with the structure of it as we've produced it, but we need to add in more sections that seem to have been removed that shouldn't have or do you have a problem with the structure itself? So I thought we were going to use the template that Arcella had created. Well, we can fit this within the template. Yeah, but we haven't even gotten to that point yet with this and we had done this over the past few months, I think, before we saw the template, but I don't see necessarily any problems with fitting it within the template. I guess I'm just asking, because Mike seems to have some concerns about the structure, about the way it's organized.  If you have examples of structures that you proposed to the Transportation Committee before, feel free to forward those on, I think that'd be helpful, just to at least have some reference to what you were thinking about. Yeah, sure, Mike, you could send those on to us. And I guess it would help if the rest of the Planning Commission took a look at the document and flagged any areas where you think things are missing or maybe we included things that shouldn't be, because ultimately, we all have to own each one of the chapters. So, Erin, do you want to try and organize a Zoom of the Transportation Committee to get back together and go over some of the things that were brought up here tonight? Yeah, I think we can do that. Yeah, Mike's given me some stuff to think about, and I think we can figure out ways to incorporate some more of the concepts that the Transportation Committee wanted in there, and we just need to get a little more creative about how to structure this so that we can incorporate those things and figure out ways to address any of those concepts that we take particular issue with. So, I'll be honest, I mean, I think that the big hang-up I have just for me, because I've just gotten very good at this sort of thing, but the structure piece has always been a struggle for me, so that's especially why, if Mike's willing to forward on some examples of what he was thinking, it'd be helpful, I'm just not my wheelhouse, to figure out how to structure something like this. And feel free to send the invite to have me join, and if I can go to the subcommittee meeting, I'll go there to kind of help lay things out, answer some questions, might be a little bit easier to have me there than not there. Yeah, that'd be great. So, I will get something set up with the group and we can take a fresh look at this stuff and figure out how we want to move forward with it, so. Yeah, because... Great, yeah, I think that will help us in terms of the work on the housing section to have a little bit better idea about this structure and the setup. So, I think just in terms of action items, I'll hold off on setting up a meeting until, Mike, can you just forward on some examples? And once we have those, I'll set up the meeting just so we have something to, I'll attach it to the invite to make sure people have that at their fingertips when they're with the meeting, so. Okay, sounds good. So, I guess while we're in this conversation, I'll mention which I had forwarded today, the city council sent out new board member packets and the reason why they sent those out, and I thought upstairs that they had sent them out to everybody, maybe they just sent them to Kirby, just to department, just to chairs. So that's why I didn't forward them to everybody when I got it. I assumed it had gone to everybody, but there were a couple of highlights that they wanted to make sure, and the big one is that boards and committees cannot use Google Docs or similar online platforms to edit documents because it's a violation of open meetings law. And so you guys can use Google Docs to store documents, so people can have access to them, but you can't actively manage them. But that really kind of works at the planning commission level. When you guys are working in a subcommittee, you've got more flexibility, so you guys have a little bit more ability to sit down and talk with the three of you to go through and massage and put stuff together in your committees of three, because you're not in that same pocket, you're a working group. So we've got a little bit more flexibility that you guys can work on those, but as we get to here, we really can't go and say circulate the transportation chapter and have everybody comment on it in the planning commission. So that's really what a lot of that information was, sent that was sent out, was for everyone just to be aware that to be careful about the Google Docs and to which we've talked about a couple of times and we've put things out a couple of times to go through and say, what do you guys think of what Marcella did for this outline? Well, what we really can do is say, hey, here it is, but we're gonna either send all your comments to Mike or send all your comments to Kirby or everybody review this and at the next planning commission, we'll talk about it. And those are all perfectly fine and appropriate. Okay. Did you end up sending that out, Mike, to all of us? Was that one of the attachments? Yeah, it should have been. Yeah. Okay. I know where somebody couldn't open. It wasn't with this meeting, it was sent separately. It's not. Detailed, it's pretty minimal. It's pretty minimal, but. When did you send that? Oh, this, okay, today. All right, I see. All right, that's probably why I haven't seen it yet. Okay, great. Thanks. Only pen and paper. That's right. You can make scratchings on your own copy. But we just have to talk about it. No exchanging ideas or communications, except for the hour and a half period every two weeks. We see each other on the street, no eye contact. No signaling, anything. If you're just pen and paper. Signaling? No twinkling. No twinkling. Signaling. No twinkling. I think there's, I think there'd be, there's a real generational divide amongst the commissioners. Those that remember carbon, like real carbon coffees and those that do not. Mimeographs. Oh yeah. I remember those, those smelled great. Oh God, yeah. I remember taking elementary school right up through that. They had all the blue, the blue ones. Yeah, you put them on a cylinder. They cranked the handle and the blue thing would shoot them out. I was so thankful that by the time I started teaching that they, you know, copiers, also by the time I practiced architecture, copiers were in mode. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, okay. So yeah, we should take a look at those and review them. And hopefully they'll amend up open meetings laws at some point to catch up with, you know, with a new generation. Yeah. I don't even understand this guidance. I think my brain just doesn't even, I don't understand what this means, but I'm not going to worry about it. Like, I don't understand. That's not a good thing to be great, that's all. And, and anything that's less than a quorum is you can have discussions. Isn't that correct? Yes, I mean, I think there's been different legal opinions going either ways, but my understanding is that when you operate as a working group, as long as it's less than a quorum of the board, that you've got more flexibility to be able to meet because otherwise work would never get done. I think there's certainly just a recognition that if you, you know, had to warn every subcommittee meeting and have minutes of every subcommittee working group, and you can't actually talk about stuff that it would just take forever to get any, any drafts done. So it's really from the board levels on up. And that's the purposes to bring drafts to the board level so that we can. You can't make any, you can't make any decisions. Right. And therefore, because you can't make any decisions, you get a little bit more flexibility. When it goes to the commission, you're making a recommendation to the planning commission to say we've reviewed the draft and we've made a bunch of edits and we've made some changes. We're recommending that we drop this policy and we add these two policies. And then we have a public open discussion of it. I see we've got the whole family there, Erin. Yeah, this is like my day to day. Like anything I do, everybody else has to come and see what's going on. Wasn't the dog streaming too much? Yeah, well, my dog Juan here, he loves a good Zoom meeting. Does he like to stand on the keyboard too? He's very close to the keyboard, he's not actually on it, he's close. My cat always wanted to stand on it. Well, that's a definitely a female. That's a cat specialty. Oh, I see. Oh boy. Okay, so with that, I think unless anybody has anything else to add, I'd ask for unanimous consent to adjourn the meeting. So we'll just, we'll give this some look, a look and Mike will send examples and then we'll rediscuss. Yes. The sub, not subcommittee, the task force working group will meet and make some revisions to it to bring back to some future planning commission meeting. No guarantees about the next one, but hopefully the next one, it'd be nice to kind of get this moving along. Thanks for tackling it guys. It's a complicated one. Sure. Heads up for Wednesday there. That is the city council meeting on the zoning. So if anyone is curious, that will be hopefully the public hearing, maybe the first, maybe the last to adopt the zoning changes that we had proposed. What time is that meeting? Starts at 6.30. We'll probably be early in the agenda. So probably at 6.40, 6.45, if everything goes well. Yeah, I cannot attend that. So hopefully other people will be. That's it for my end. Okay. You're still muted, Erin. Yeah, no. Okay. So I guess we'll put it to a fuller vote just to see if anybody has anything to add, Ken. Those in favor of adjourning say aye. Aye. Those opposed. We are adjourned. Aye. Say goodbye, Rose. Bye.


From the CUBE studios in Palo Alto in Boston, connecting with thought leaders all around the world, this is a CUBE Conversation. Hey, welcome to this CUBE Conversation. I'm John Furrier, host of the CUBE here in Palo Alto, California for a special conversation with an industry analyst who's been, who travels a lot, does a lot of events, covers the industry up and down economically and also some of the big trends to talk about how the at scale problem that's the COVID-19 is causing, whether it's a lot of people that are working at home for the first time to at scale network problems. The pressure points that this is exposing for what I would call the mainstream world is a great topic. Zece Carvala, founder and principal analyst at ZK Research, friend of the CUBE. Zece, welcome back to the CUBE. Good to see you remotely. We're working in place here. I came to the studio with our quarantine crew here to get these stories out because they're super important. Thanks for spending the time. Oh yeah, thanks. It's certainly been an interesting the last couple of months and we're probably maybe halfway through this, I'm guessing. Yeah, and no matter what happened, the new reality of this current situation or a mess or whatever people want to call it is the fact that it has awakened what us industry insiders have been seeing for a long time, big data, new networks, cloud native, some microservices, kind of at scale, scale out infrastructure. Kind of the stuff that we've been kind of covering is now exposed to the whole world to see on a Petri dish that's called COVID-19 going, wow, this is the world has changed. This is highlighting the problems. Can you share your view of what are some of those things that people are experiencing for the first time and what's the reaction? What's your reaction to it all? Yeah, it's been kind of an interesting last couple of months when I talked to CIOs about how they're adapting to this. You know, before I was an analyst, John, I was actually in corporate IT. I was part of a business continuity plans group for companies. And the whole definition of business continuity has changed. When I was in corporate IT, we thought of business continuity as being able to run the company with a minimal set of services for a week or a month or something like that. So for instance, I was in charge of corporate technology and financial services firm and we thought, well, if we have 50 traders, can we get by with 10? Business continuity today is, I need to run the entire organization with my full staff for an indefinite period of time. And that is a substantially different mandate than thinking about how I run a minimal set of services to just maintain the bare minimum business operations. And I think that's exposed a lot of things for a lot of companies. You know, for instance, I've talked to so many companies today where the majority of the employees have never worked remote. For you or I, we're mobile professionals. We do this all the time. We travel around. We go to conferences. We do this stuff all in second nature. But for a lot of employees, you think your contact center agents, in-store people, things like that, they've never worked from home before. And so all of a sudden the new reality is they've got to set up a computer in a kitchen or in their bedroom or something like that and start working from home. Also for companies, they've never had to think about a world where everybody worked remote, right? So the VPN infrastructure to have, the cloud apps they have, the remote access technology to have was set up for a subset of users, maybe 10%, maybe 15%, but certainly not everybody. And so now we're seeing corporate networks get crushed, all the cloud providers are getting crushed. I know some of the, the, the conferencing companies, the video companies are having the double triple capacity. And so I think to your point when you started this, we would have seen this eventually with all the data coming in and all the new devices being connected. It just, I think what COVID did is just accelerated this to the point where it's exposed everything at once. Yeah. And you know, I, you know, a lot of being an entrepreneur and I've done a lot of corporate legal contracts. The word force major is always a phrase that's a league jargon, which means act of God. So it's being something that you can't control. I think what's interesting to your point is, is that the playbook in IT, even, even some of the most cutting edge IT is forecasting some disruption, but never like this. And also disaster recovery and business continuity, as you mentioned, have been practices, but state of the art has been percentages of overall, but disaster recovery was a hurricane or a power outage. So generators, fail oversights or regions of your cloud, not a change in a new vector. So the disruption is not disruption. It's an amplification of a new work stream. That's the disruption. That's what you're saying. Yeah, no, that's, that's correct. Business economy used to be very data center focused. It was how do I get enough power? How do I create some replicate my office and have 50 desks in here instead of 500? But now it's everybody working remotely. So I got to have ways for them to collaborate. I have to have ways for them to talk to customers. I have to have ways them to deliver services. I have to enable people to do what they did in the office, but not in the office, right? And so that's been a big challenge. And I think it's been an interesting test for CIOs that have been going through digital transformation plans. I think it's shifted a lot of budgets around and make companies look at the way they do things. There's also the social aspect of it, John. People like to go to the office, they like to interact with coworkers. And I've talked to some companies where they're bringing in medical doctors, they're bringing in psychologists to talk to their employees because if you've never worked from home before, it's quite a big difference. The other aspect of this that's underappreciated, I think, is the fact that now all our kids are home, right? So we've got to contend with that. And I know the first day that the shutter in place already got put in place for the San Francisco area, a new call, I believe a new version of Call of Duty had just come out. We had some new shows pop up in Netflix, some series continuances. So now these kids who are at home or bored, they're downloading content. They're playing games. At the same time, we're trying to work and we're trying to do video calls and we're trying to bring in multiple video streams. Or even if they're in classrooms, they're doing Zoom-based calls, that type of thing. So we're using WebEx or an application like that. And it's played havoc on corporate networks, not just company networks. And so- Well, also Comcast and the providers, AT&T, and the fiber seems to be doing well, but Comcast is throttling. I mean, this is the crisis. It's a new vector of disruption.  Well, I think what this is, is it makes you look at how you handle your traffic. And I think there's plenty of bandwidth out there. And even most basic home routers are capable of prioritizing traffic. And I think there's a number of IT leaders I've talked to have actually gone through the steps of helping their employees, understand how you use your home networking technology to be able to prioritize video and corporate voice traffic over top. There are corporate ways to do that. For instance, Aruba and Extreme Networks both offer these remote access points where you just plug them in and you're connected to a corporate network and you pick up all the policies. But even without that, there's ways to do it with home. So I think it's made us rethink networking instead of the network being a home network, a Wi-Fi network, a data center network, right? The internet. We need to think about this grand network as one network and then how we control the quality of a cloud app from the person's home to the cloud all the way back to the company because that's what drives user experience. I think you're highlighting something really important and I just want to illustrate and have you double down on more commentary on this because I think the one network or we're all part of one network concept is shows that the perimeter is dead. That's what we've been saying about the cloud. But also if you think about just the crimes of opportunity they're happening. You got the hacker hacking situation. You got all kinds of things that are impacted. There's crimes of opportunity and there's disruption that's happening because of the opportunity. Can you just share more and unpack that concept of what this one network? What are some of the things that businesses and then are thinking about now? Get the VPN. You got collaboration tools that sometimes are half baked. I mean, I love Zoom and all, but Zoom is crashing too. I mean, WebEx is more corporate oriented but not really as strong as with Zoom is for the consumer. But still they have an opportunity but they have a challenge as well. So all these work tools are kind of half baked too. Well, the thing is they were never designed. I remember seeing in an interview that Chuck Robbins had on CNBC where he said, we didn't design WebEx to support everybody working from home, right? It just was, that wasn't even a thought. Nowhere did he ever go to his team and say, build this for the whole world to connect, right? And so every one of the video providers and the cloud collaboration providers had problems and I don't really blame them because this is a dynamic we were never expecting to see. I think you brought up a good point on the security side. A lot has been written about how more and more companies are moving to these online tools like Zoom and WebEx and applications like that to let us communicate. But what does that mean from a security perspective? Now all of a sudden I have people working from home, they're using these web-based applications. I remember a conversation I had about six months ago with one of the world's most famous hackers who does nothing about penetration tests now. He said the cloud-based applications are his number one entry point into companies and to penetrate them because people's passwords and things like that are fairly weak. So now we're moving everything to the cloud, we're moving everything to these SaaS apps, right? And so now it's creating more exposure points. We've got fishers out there that are using the term COVID or Corona as a way to get people to click on links they shouldn't. And so now our whole security paradigm has blown up, right? So we used to have this hard shell we could drop around our company. We can't do that anymore and we have to start worrying about things on an app-by-app basis. And it's caused companies to rethink security to look at multi-factor authentication tools. I think those are a lot better to look at CASB tools, the cloud access tools, trying to monitor what apps people are using, what they're not using, trying to cut down on the use of consumer tools, right? So it's a lot for the security practitioners to take a hold of too. And you have to understand even from a company standpoint their security operation center was built on the concept they pull all their data into one location. Sock engineers aren't used to working remotely as well. So that's a big change as well. How do I get my data analyzed into my sock engineers when they're working remotely? You know, we have coined the term Black Friday or the day after Thanksgiving and then- Thanksgiving, yeah. Yeah, the big surge, but that's a term to describe that first experience of holy shit, everyone's going to the websites and they all crashed. So we're kind of having that same moment now to your point earlier. So I want to read a statement that was on Nima Badly's LinkedIn, he's at Google now, former pivotal guy, you probably know him. He has a whole thing, a little graphic that says, who led the digital transformation of your company? It's got a poll with a question mark. A, your CEO, B, your CTO or C, COVID-19. And it circles COVID-19, that's the image and that's the meme that's going around. But the reality is it is highlighting it. And I want to get your thoughts on this next track of thinking around how people may shift their focus and their spend because, hey, hybrid cloud is great. Multi-cloud is the next big way, but screw multi-cloud. If I can't actually fix my current situation, maybe I'll push off some of the multi-cloud stuff or maybe I won't. So how do you see the give and get of project prioritization? Because I think this is going to wake everyone up. You mentioned security. Yeah. Clearly. Yeah, well, I think it has woken everybody up but I think companies now are really rethinking how they operate. I don't believe we're going to stop traveling. I think once this is over, people are going to hop back on planes. I also don't believe that we'll never go back into the office. I think the big shift here though, John, is we will see more acceptance to hire people out of region. I think that it's proved that you don't have to be in the office, right? Which will drive these collaboration goals. And I also think we'll see less use of desktop phones and more use of video means. So now that people are getting used to using these types of tools, I think they're starting to like the experience. And so voice calls get replaced by video calls and that is going to crush our networks in buildings. So we got Wi-Fi 6 coming, we got 5G coming, right? We've got lots of security tools out there. And I think you'll see a lot of prioritization to the network. And that's kind of an interesting thing because historically the network didn't get a lot of C level time, right? It was those people in the basement. We didn't really know what they did. I'm a forward network engineer. I was treated that way. But most digital organizations now have to come to the realization that they're network-centric, right? And so the network is the business. And that's not something that companies have put a lot of focus on. But if you look at the building blocks of digital, IoT, mobility, cloud, the writing was been on the wall for a while. And I've written this several times that you need to pay more attention to the network. And I think we're finally going to see that transition and some prioritization of dollars there. I will attest you have been very vocal and right on point on that, so props to that. I do want to also double-amplify your point. The network drives everything. That's clear. I think the other thing that's interesting, and it used to be kind of a cliche and a pejorative way, is the user is the product. That's a term that's been coined to Facebook.  If you're the product, that's a problem. To describe Facebook as the app that monetizes you, the user. I think this situation is really pointing out that, yes, it's good to be the product. The user value and the network are two now endpoints of the spectrum. The network's got to be kick-ass from the ground up, but the user is the product now. And it should be in a good way, not exploiting. So I think if you're thinking about user-centric value, how my kid can play Call of Duty, how my family can watch the new episode on Netflix, how I can do a kick-ass Zoom call, that's my experience. The network does its job, the application service takes advantage of making me happy. So I think this is interesting, right? So like we're getting a new thing here. How real do you think that is? Where are we in the spectrum of that nirvana? Oh, I think we're rapidly approaching that. I think it's been well documented that 2020 was the year that customer experience became the number one brand differentiator, right? In fact, I think it was actually 2018 that happened, but Walker and Gartner and a few other companies predicted to be 2020. And what that means is that if you're a business, you need to provide exemplary customer service in order to gain share. I think one of the things that was lost in there is that employee experience has to be best in class as well. And so I think a lot of businesses over-rotated to spend away from employee experience to customer experience and rightfully so, but now they got to rotate back to make sure that their workers have the right tools, have the right services, have the right data to do their jobs better. Because when they do, they can turn around and provide customers better experience. So this isn't just about training your people to service customers well, it's about making sure people have the right data, the right information to do their jobs to collaborate better, right? And there's really a tight coupling now between the consumer and the employee, or the customer and the employee. And Corona kind of exposed that because it shows that we're all connected in a way and the connection of people, whether the customer is employees or something that businesses have to focus on. So I think we'll see some dollars spin back to internal, not just customer facing. Yeah, well, great insight and first of all, we all connected, you're a great CUBE alumni, but you're also right up the street in California, we're in Palo Alto, you're in San Mateo, you literally could have driven here, but we're sheltering in place. You know, great insight and thanks for sharing that. And I think it's good content for people to be aware of this, obviously they're living in it right now, but I think the world is going to be back to business soon, but it's never going to be the same. I think it's didn't- No, it will never be the same. I think this is a real watershed point for the way we work and the way we treat our employees and our customers. And I think you'll see a lot of companies make a lot of change. And that's good for the whole industry because it'll drive innovation. And I think we'll have some innovation come out of this that we never saw before. Quick final word for the folks that are on this big wave that's happening, it's reality, it's the current situation now. What's your advice for them as they get on their surfboard, so to speak, and ride this wave? What's your advice to them? Yeah, I think use this opportunity to find those weak points in your networks and find out where the bottlenecks are because I think having everybody work remotely exposes a lot of problems and processes and where a lot of the hiccups happen. But I do think my final word is invest in the network. I think a lot of the networks out there have been badly under-invested in, which is why people get frustrated when they're at stadiums or hotels or casinos. I think the world is shifting. Applications and people are becoming network-centric and if those don't work, nothing works. And I think that's really been proven over the last couple of months. If our networks can't handle the traffic and our networks can't handle what we're doing, nothing works. You know, you and I can do a podcast show called No Latency. Define the Law. No Latency, that'd be good. These thanks for coming on. I appreciate taking the time to stay safe and I want to follow up with you and get a check-in further down the road a couple of days or maybe next week if you can. So, I appreciate your time. Yeah, look forward to it. Thanks a lot. Okay, I'm John Furrier here in Palo Alto Studios doing the remote interviews. Getting the quick stories that matter help you out and extract the signal from the noise of the great guests there. Check out ZK Research, a great friend of theCUBE cutting edge, knows the networking. This is an important area. The network, the user's experience is critical. Thanks for coming and watching today. I'm John Furrier. Thanks for watching.