is We know We really took everything from sin tree Don't take to heart words said in grief and trace No matter how spot on they feel Are we even sure Freya will still be at the house don't see why not Odin's back door in was also his way out Without the blasted raven apparently hiding in the broom closet The house should be secure and she will not turn away allies in her vengeance. I it's all our vengeance now I'm no more fake tear to twist our minds around Oh a mockery he made of tears desire for peace and mine Skipped over how he's bought and freed the valkyries and that the giants are all gone And how they called me loathing and finding the shrines giants are gone And we got to yelton They were all That is perfectly reasonable for tear to be upset by and interested in it's also Very much information the odin would be interested in he was wondering when I was the giants Also tells us he did not kill them because he's surprised that they're all gone. Well, we already knew that Do we Yeah, do you not remember what happened to the giants?   I'm sorry that name doesn't sound familiar The giants are we're very private people That doesn't sound right at all in retrospect uh The giants and tear were very very very good friends the idea that He doesn't really know much of anything about anything to do with them just seems seems unlikely But this is some of the first things he said you first save him and you sort of just take it at face value He's just like, oh the giants say they were I guess they were pretty private, but Really with all we learned about him in the um The 2018 game it seems unlikely that there would be little to to draw out of him about what the giants thought this that and the other And um, hmm Perhaps after a rest you are certain the giants were not comes to war I said that they were wise in my experience that goes with being peaceful Is uh his desire for peace we've already been over how it all would run on a surface level, but Odin wants the peace because his true motivation is the uh The mask the in the information the knowledge. He doesn't want war. He doesn't want ragnarok Those things aren't useful to him at all um So yeah when you start to this all made sense for what tier may want and tier may say But uh now when you're listening to it with um Odin's intentions behind it all interesting and yeah, these weren't we didn't cover these at first, but I threw them in here some tier kind of Hilariously points out that kratos is looting and you get some like almost meta lines about how yeah my dad likes loot And when you first go through the game, it's kind of fun. You're just like, uh, yeah I do like loot think about it Tier is odin odin has his chance to see Grower shrine Which regards ragnarok and there's apparently a hidden part to it In terms of information tier really wants to see this shrine And uh, it makes way more sense that he does considering he's odin This is this is desperate information. It's been available for ages, but he's had no way of seeing it He's on the cusp and kratos is running around picking up hack silva So just keep that in mind when you listen to these lines My old friend just looting on your chest. We'll be right along. My dad likes lube Like they're giving us much of a choice So your father said I'm just naive I suppose. No Just an optimist old friend Lucky for us swearing off violence doesn't mean he can't disfigure some architecture The shrine awaits He's just looking around. He does this sometimes a curious mind carry on Excellent. Let's continue our set.   Yeah Even mentioned, I know is it is it coming up mentioning the wildlife and stuff? Um, well, I'm not sure what you mean Oh, he also says like what all the wildlife like he doesn't really talk about civilians, but like everything in that realm basically Oh, I'm not sure if I have that but yeah, that's okay. I just don't remember if it just comes up here or not Yeah, go ahead. Yes, um It's interesting to compare to something in future, but also something like him standing behind Dirlin when he speaks to kratos right at first like I can't condemn people to stay away from me by using me. Maybe I'll use someone else Keep moving really worked up. I think he's okay focus atreus Here you are A male fit for a champion enough I said who would speak no more of that? Yes, of course Yeah, I mean to offend There is almost no reason he would have said that and that's why it's a weird line, but now that we have odin's like, uh Yeah, just constantly egging them on. Yeah, he's trying to so discontent Uh, I'm not offended It's just a word. No word didn't cloud your judgment I never thought I'd have the pleasure of seeing you again fric Don't call me that. Mm-hmm. I haven't been that person in a long time But I'm happy to see you too I'd feared the worst for so long you must have been through Nothing so bad is what you've suffered Freya I am so so sorry to hear what happened to balder He was only a boy when I saw him last but I know he meant more to you than anything. I can't help but read this as him bringing up something that Made a hate kratos Yeah, like that that's gotta be why he's bringing it up Just in case you want to kill him He's right there and to forebear your vengeance in this way. It's it's truly an inspiration for those of us who believe in peace The only peace these realms will ever know is once odin is gone so like You know, hopefully everything's chill, right?  It's like I'll be attacking odin.  I kind of gave away a little bit too much there. Yeah Yeah I am far removed from my days of diplomacy I bloody knew these two had nicked it and odin blamed me for it disappearing.  How I'm yeah I thought it was a sense of almost like he was impressed like they're the ones who managed to do that Like these guys did that I I even my first time around I got a distinct impression that he's uh Disapproving of it.  Who did it? It was you guys Especially considering me.  They stole drop near We didn't steal nothing. We just Ungifted what never should have been gifted in the first place gifted don't like who I became on our last adventure I can't be around the violence that follows him That follows you both I'm sorry.   Is this loki's doing enough? See that line to me just feels really weird considering everything we've heard from him so far on the surface But if it's odin, he's taking an opportunity to try and turn them on loki Yep Because he that's all he does.  He tries to just yeah make everyone more literally Yes, yeah, big fan of the cooking. He is an actual pot stirrer Oh, that looks good The giants didn't make it And only a few of them ever glimpsed it in their visions He's quite taken with that book. They never knew its origin But some believed it was a way to gaze into the secrets of creation itself Is it an oracle? Much much more imagine becoming one with a source of infinite knowledge Is it true I'm doll's dad I can't believe it Yeah, it's so great. He is dad. Yeah, that's that's that's how he discovers it and he it's confirmed with the horn There's no way they'd have that if unless i'm not probably dead And that's what he was looking at. It's just it's great. It's really great. He's still staying in character Even though he just heard that it's like oh It must have been tough stopping it now Odin swore peace only so long as you spilled no more acer blood I refuse that deal Yet he honored it. It's just why would he say that? Why would he that's one of the most blatant examples of that's just odin speaking right now? But now I'm fine. I just hope unlocking this thing was worth the cost. You have it What did it show you? That's like it's just odin Like you can you can tell that they decided to make the lines more overt as he you get closer to the room We're excited. He's yeah, yeah, he's getting closer. The mask is right there As as much as the deal one that like I refused that deal yet. He honored it line was it was overt like okay That's very much odin speaking, but it's also rooted in heimdall's A supposed pacifism You know like it would make sense for him. You mean oh, no, sorry. Sorry tear. Yeah I mean it's rooted in in what we know of tear Are sorry of pseudo tear, you know like faked here the the persona that he's been projecting or like the personality Is that he doesn't want war for any reason? So when he's like, well Odin hasn't caused like he has honored that deal for peace. So, you know, well, so yeah, it wasn't that you should have too Anyways, even if it wasn't hand shook, you know It wasn't that it couldn't be justified in some way shape or form with what we know about tear It's that it's so inappropriate like to come from A guy who was tortured by him to a bunch of people who've been tortured by him and threatened by him Like what do you mean? He honored the deal.  Like it if he honored the deal it's only for his own benefits like it's it's the kind of thing That if another character was feeling particularly Uh annoyed they might have really picked on him, but That did eventually happen The character was called brock.  I'm so relieved to see you safe. My infinite condolences to you all I do not know what to say I am devastated to hear about what happened to master brock To think that something like that could happen in my home of all places I am sickened and deeply sorry Is master cindy all right? no But he is safe He has returned to midgard I see I can only imagine the grief. He must be feeling Please take care you two You're back Are you with us? Good. It's time It's kind of funny. Are you with us to unite the realms? Okay, good Someone else said wait, but how does brock figure it out before the beer and frayers like Uh roll it back off an hour to go over. Yeah I'll keep going over it against odin Once and for all Teardry to unite the realms the real tear Everyone loved him and even he failed then we better not fail Or there will be no one left to try. This is Ragnarok and Odin's already had every blasted plan we have. Yes, we've lost the element of surprise More than that. We have only one way to asgard and it's not subtle. Go on It means we enter from tears temple here Asgard's wall is here Odin's host of ain harrier will hold the space in between Which means We need armies of our own as many as will answer the call Numbers odin won't see coming and that's just to reach the wall to breach the wall We'll need to find sata ratatosker was able to procure this The three of us will go I know just where to look splendid allies then who do we think we can get I'll venture to helheim try to recruit the army of the dead I'll return to alfheim to unite the elves But just like that unite the elves after centuries of war. Well, they really like me in alfheim And you to bet I'm yes to find seagrin and muster the free valkyries That goat has no army. No niefelheim. No yotenheim. That leaves only spartlefheim I'll go to spartlefheim Cindry Are you sure? I said, I'll go So be it Good luck to us all You said, you know where to look for surter. Yeah I unlocked the secrets in the shrine when I was in moose behind with thor thor Don't worry. He didn't see me going. That was not my worry Now look when we find surter We'll have to convince him to combine with his wife senmar combine Yeah When the two of them Join They'll create an enormous asgard destroy monster. Oh my Oh Also, by the way Wait, go ahead I was just saying I was it's kind of an appropriate reaction. Go ahead. Oh, yeah I also mentioned the son got Banned for playing that interview with the the I assume the Kanye alex jones one. I think Um Sitch and adam did that. I hope they're they're not going to get Clipped by it. I think a couple people are because uh, yeah, I only watched it on Sitch and adam show Yeah, it was a wild interview though. Whoo. Hopefully they can sneak by you never know with these things Especially if bigger content careers are going down for it. Yeah Be careful that but yes, um, obviously we're doing our Uh, we're mustering everything we have access to which is Not a lot especially as we just said which there were several Realms that don't even have anything for us to use mm-hmm But of what we have access to Uh, the valkyries seems like an obvious and relatively simple choice the um army of the dead Sounds at first a little more complicated But you do get uh information on exactly what happened to make that happen Which I don't think it would be considered a spoiler at this point to just say basically They're gonna try and make a deal with I hesitate to pronounce the name of the bird Errol sliggler or something I would need to see It's spelled out. Yeah, but yeah, I know which one you mean the deal is that uh She or it i'm not even sure can be replaced as the guardian of hell In exchange for this Which is the big fleam um grossling dealer And then sure Uh side mission if you take freya into Alfheim, which you could have done at this point She'll tell you that the reason freya is so Freya is so respected and loved in alfheim I'm paraphrasing your story, but basically he went there early on he was super drunk. He was messing around. He fell in the river of souls um I guess while it was still More dangerous.  But yeah, so that's why there is a chance. He'll be able to do that with the elves That leaves uh, the most difficult job to kratos and atreus, which is recruiting serta Who you may remember from such properties as the marvel cinematic universe Big guy with a sword I have some doubts regarding negotiations with brassfelter in helheim I think he is that she may be more amenable to speaking with him. He could pronounce it better than me Mimir You need it or death is a skill now I suppose these two can survive a bit without me Bravo, you wouldn't mind very well many things We'll catch up with you later Hey, I think I can see serters forge in the distance I wonder if they saw their prophecy and decided to isolate themselves in their home realms to fight it Understandable I believe they'll understand why ragnarok needs to happen We need to be ready for serter in case he doesn't want to help us ready Prophecy says he and sin mara join who knows how they're gonna feel about it now You would try to force these primordial beings into submission Well, I don't know.  We seek a fire giant Go away What just happened hey Good job, this would be the uh muskelheim track of fighting like the organ Is that oh wait or not that might have just been strings We're fighting clean There's a lot of fun music to fight to in this game That is serger. He's got a lock So that that was actually kind of interesting sort of just a bigger point about the music What I was hearing there was the lower strings. I think we're On the downbeat and the upper strings were on the upbeat So it almost sounded like an organ medley but a melody but um Yeah, I thought that was that was really interesting and then my brain put together that it was strings You know Yeah, who are you? Why won't you help us? Why won't you help us?  You keep separate from sin mara just so you can sit here and wait to die At least if you joined with her You'd be together again We are together but her heart She's got mine. It's not much But it's enough But you're not even have you ever been in love? Pretty good. It's pretty good Yeah There's something about the way I'm trying to crack it because I've heard this guy talk so many times What is it that I like about it so much just like I think it's the casual way that he reads sentences the delivery. Yeah, it's so unique Very casual. It's yeah Like it this is a clear example of in very little time and having said very few things You already get a really good sense of who he is. He's the opposite of kang um He gives me a sense that he is incredibly old That he has seen a lot and very casual about just yeah, he's just moving through sentences Very obviously and honestly Pure charisma.  Yeah, okay No reason to even ask further By the way, this uh, this outfound wearing on kratos that is the Initial gear leveled up. Yeah. Yeah, and um, I get it to I think level eight before the game ends and it goes It has like a golden Cover and i'm curious if everyone whatever one thinks of the looks. I thought it was pretty cool I like I like seeing this a lot more than a lot of the other outfits.  I said to the people in my chat like they were like you're outfit Sovereign I was like, I don't it's not chosen because of the look. I wanted the stats No, I'm yeah, I'm saying that on this playthrough I get to go with looks but on You can transmog your armor when you have to fully leveled Oh really? Yeah, when it's on level nine, you can make it look whatever you want to And you can transmog it into anything in the game or just other things? I think the the things you bought Okay Yeah, I don't know the I haven't checked the extent if you have to upgrade everything because I think if You get the initial ones, of course But I think if you have the other ones upgraded you can use the upgraded looks as well So you can just transmog them when they're full leveled It's kind of neat. Good reason to have new game plus Yeah May I see them? Right I should say they're pretty cool They are none of these lads It's funny every God of War fan gets a little tingle in their balls whenever someone talks about the blades of chaos It's like whoop. Yeah, what are you gonna say? What do you want? What's the new information? Because we like these things a lot I want to know What could your monster? But I don't want her involved at all But the prophecy says you two have to combine sure this will work. What have I gone to a bit before? Yeah, get right to try it A little smirky did after it. Yeah Not here I said this on I said this somewhere else, but I really felt like he was waiting for craters to try it because the fortale Just like will you actually just try and stab me now? Are you gonna? Yeah, no stop Yeah, I think not here So design for Sutter is awesome I really like it. He's pretty cool He's even got a little like rock beard. What awaits us at this spark of the world? magic primordial stuff With your blades in my heart But what'll happen when you change? Don't know won't be me anymore But how will you or um future knew you? No one to attack asgard. You got the horn Right. Yeah Then we're good. So Here it is The spark of the world This is Beautiful.  I'll meet you across Yeah, this feels too easy. Who didn't knows we have yellow one He knows you have the mask After killing brock. He knows we would seek Sutter to start this war. Well, what other choice do we have none? He knows that too What about samara should we at least tell her no? It had hurt her too much more than not knowing what happened to you sometimes Loving someone is about Choosing The lesser pain that doesn't make any sense Promise you'll stay away from her you have a word Sorter you're stabbing you with the blades gonna be enough to create this new you Samara's heart is cold your dad's now got my fire in those blades If enough of me and the sparks fire go into enough of her Okay Come here This is hurt I assume i'm not crazy, but like the him giving away his fire made the ice from her heart spread further around him Uh, yeah, it looks like I got Yeah, I haven't compared the models, but I think I think that's what happened. Yeah I think so. Yeah, because it's kind of always on his shoulder there But it's not on his chest that much. I don't think Not typically I think this is gonna take That's a good frame We oftentimes have him at critical moments in fights activate rage to sort of win it out and just having him do it with his son mastering control of the bear Which was the one he hadn't cracked beyond the wolf and uh The I think is is there a kind of his achievement for versus the whole working together better together sort of stuff They're in sync father and son Yeah, good shit Something went wrong, but I think it's right now Also, we have ragnarok Oh my god, you hear that all we have to do is call him with gallow horn when we're ready The balkyries were a small step back, but I bet we've got odin worried now. He knows we're coming for him We're gonna show up to ask you by the way I got something to drink in between the that you talk about how he says i'll be your monster Oh, uh surta. Yeah, it's surta says that to kratos I think there's something about that in a journal entry as well, right?  Thanks to previous violence. Yeah And uh, yeah, this desperation for the good guy is just grabbing this chill dude Who's just doing his thing and turning him into a giant monster will destroy an entire realm It just is a phrasing specifically like telling kratos that like i'll become your monster The thing he doesn't want to be for anyone anymore. Yeah, no, he has a monster for himself. It's like, ooh That's that's kind of spicy Odin won't stand a chance. We're gonna win Groh is right Groh failed to predict what we would sacrifice in return Maybe she could only see the big stuff This is gonna work, right? It must So you fought in a lot of wars, right? You've never had anything like ragnarok on your side. I have and the creature does not guarantee our victory right He's referencing the fact that he had an army of titans and they all got wiped out real easy Yep much to the disappointment of many god of war fans, but hey What happens all right the titans win a good idea the gods wiped them out historically Why'd you rig them back just to get wiped out again? You fools you should have just gone back in time to when Zeus was a baby and no no stepped on him. Oh, no That's what you do when you have time travel, right? That's the meme In babies. Yeah, I mean you're always quiet, but This feels different. I had hoped my days of ceaseless battles were over I had hoped to never see my son go to war I Father, I know we're doing the right thing Ragnarok has to happen the price we and others paid for this war is high It will only get higher. It'll be worth it. How did it go? And yes, my usefulness to a certain bani of nupti did run out Ragnarok awaits our call as do the armies of hell Thanks mostly to me. It seems war is upon us at last What else do you know of the mask only that it was the great passion of Odin's life He journeyed across Agia's burning ocean into the heart of the silent matron herself to find it Lost every man in his crew but to hear him tell it. It was worth all that blood and more I had a feeling you might pop in here You know, everybody's meeting in maid guard, right? I just wanted you to know if you need anything at all. I'll be around Either here or at brockon's injuries old shops Yeah, I know we're all busted up inside today, but You know, I don't like to keep busy Well This is it then The beginning of the end the ends for Odin and after that A new beginning for the rest of us Atreus, I know I'm just looking forward to seeing all the realms finally standing up to him Elves and dwarves and hell itself.  They have to After everything they've been through They have to Don't they So sounds like things went well enough in moose behind. I mean Probably Sutter didn't want some more involved So instead of them combining to form the ragnarok beast He did a work around that left her out of it. Well Hopefully he still shows up at ragnarok to plunge his sword into the heart of asgard And where is that exactly? Only Sutter knows Brother about the oracles of your lands Would you say they manipulated events? Did they have an agenda? I do not doubt they held their own interests first But in my experience They could be easily fooled by their own prophecies Could that be a specific experience brother? Once I sought the oracle for a means to break my bondage to aries One priestess had visions that showed her olympus would be brought to ruin by the god of war Therefore she helped me Intending to undermine aries and protect her realm She did not foresee that I would kill him and take his office In the end I proved her vision of doom Correct So the oracle herself thought about the very future she hoped to avoid I suppose we're in fine company at that There's a lot of that in this game a lot of Oh story, I should say the uh, that's from one of the psp games. I forgot which one because I never tell them apart Someone said ascension reference Uh, is it ascension? I thought it was one of the psp ones The furies Well, no, you saw talking that's not the few the furies is going well I mean, you know the oracle would be the one who cursed him with the The ashes of his family like that that initially made him. Oh, he's met a lot of oracles You meet an oracle in athens in the first game Yeah, okay fair enough. So I think most people are saying ascension. So I assume it's ascension. Okay. Okay They gathered in their home realms waiting for when we blow gallerhorn I was kind of hoping to see some of them here when all the round towers open at once. We'll see plenty lot Odin won't believe what's coming for him. No Odin had lifetimes to prepare for this Whatever grows deception. He heard the truth as tear Do not underestimate him Rousing speech brother very inspirational. Valkyries look different. Welcome back. Hildespenian formed me of your success We've been planning accordingly Well, what would Ragnarok be without Ragnarok? Who else agreed to join us? I see the Valkyries Better than that. They are reborn Corporeal and uncorrupted thanks to no small amount of vanner magic Their shield maidens now nice and your brother. He came through The elves called a truce to unite against asgard That gives us an advantage by air and with hell's army for a vanguard What about sin tree will the dwarves fight? We haven't heard from him But there's time yet And I think we have what we need to clear a path for the Ragnarok beast Well, when you say it like that Why worry at all secret It's good to see you so Alive Oh Yes I wasn't myself the last we met I'm glad you're safe My queen the shield maidens will be divided among the forces breaching from alfheim helheim and here in midgard We stand ready Kratos the Treyas Amir Please excuse me. Oh Good night then Freya Have you determined our path out of asgard? If the towers are the way in we count on them being the way out And if they are not then we all know what we signed up for Our plan is only missing one thing A leader That honor is yours pretty much just to acknowledge what they are that there's a good chance.  I want our most experienced wartime general in the field I don't care about the honors. I don't care about the prophecies and champions. I just need us to win Freya, I know what I'm asking just Sleep on it Here we are Kratos your tent is to the right and a Treyas yours is to the left Mine a young warrior needs his own space. Don't you think? I do Wow Thanks Sleep on what we spoke of Let me know in the morning what you decide Yeah, so logistically, we're all set basically. Yep. That just lines up how everything's working We've got a bunch of foot soldiers in the form of undead people a bunch of flying people in the form of elves And then Ragnarok beast is going to show up hopefully And then whatever Sindri has maybe prepared we might have as well and the Valkyries And the Valkyries did they already tell the new name? Uh shield maidens. Shield maidens, yeah Excuse me. May I have a moment with my near? I don't know what tomorrow brings, but If tonight is our last night, I'd Like to spend it feeling something besides hate We have a tongue in two horns. Sorry There's nothing I'd like more Except perhaps a dance Do I may have lost a step Do you respect love? I don't tell silly stories You only tell silly stories I can never argue with you Once again, there's deliveries from uh Alistair Duncan. Um, mm-hmm and yeah, it's uh They almost set it a little bit there of just like It was awkward that he was like, oh we go we go in I guess no more talking And it's like no they they actually do because there's there's a lot of history those two have We got lots of pieces of it throughout both games Yeah, there's a whole side side quest uh about Seagrune Uh, you actually get some extra dialogue here, I think uh in the scene when you do it But I've completely forgot what it was Can I sleep here tonight?  What's the sleep with his why it's like, okay, so first of all you're gonna remember Number one that uh, Atreus and Kratos sleep in like the same room So to speak back in their little cabony place Just because he wants to be right next to and make sure he can But sometimes gods arrive and try to kill them. Uh, it's this thing that happens.   Kind of I think from god of war three Up until now He's he's he's kind of Not exactly pushed away the idea of just actually dying Yeah, it's pretty much. He's had a pretty rough life and um We will get more But I think it's super meaningful that Sort of sort of speak in universe in real time His story is cut short because Atreus has fallen asleep But he's story is cut short at the moment of him saying when death arrived And and the story is about how the guy was motivated to call for death When death arrived and then he looks down and is interrupted by Atreus having fallen asleep the idea there. I think that we're supposed to grasp already Is that Atreus is the thing that's making him hesitate on on the thought of death.  I wish only to be prepared for when my time comes Immortals must do such things I am glad to have you prepare with me You're quiet. I have nothing to say well Say something I enjoy hearing your voice a funeral fire. I would have chosen different Oh, I loved ones You would have me trapped in the ground for eternity I would have you close to me Our touching my rotting corpse would bring you such comfort We once tried to take charge of your ending. Did you know that was different? Circumstance, yes But not on purpose with distant future There is much time ahead of us. I wish to better a future But will exist without me Whenever that day comes For you And for our son, we will always walk together kratos You will always be a part of me I will always be a part of you And when you were gone that part of me dies as well to feel your absence Culmination of love is grief And yet we love Despite the inevitable We open our hearts to it when the pyres And when you have gathered my ashes Spread them from the highest peak in all the realms You will do this for me deeply Is to have loved fully Open your heart to the world as you have opened it to me and you will find every reason to keep living in it We're pausing there Yeah Well, there you have the yeah, so she only gets three scenes in that excellent and critical Yes Because now we got the final part of those Little seeds that have been peppered through these little little flashbacks scenes dream sequences, whatever you want to call them Because uh, I don't remember the The order in which they came but the one was oh, we need to look we need to take response We don't need to do something only if it when it comes to us We can prevent it before that happens if we have the power And uh, yeah, this is obviously hey if you Look around has plenty to live for you don't you don't need to be so So negative basically all the time. That's like one of the things, uh She said as well The way about it, um the the three put together are all like foundational Uh, as we said seeds that she planted that he's come to understand and realize like throughout the 2018 game on this one the first being Help beyond yourself the second yeah being um Your past doesn't define your future And you're the third being a double whammy of Loved ones when lost are still with you and that Is uh almost accentuated by the grief you feel from how hard you love them which How could it not align with everything he went through in the original trilogy?  Why did he kill everything because he loved his wife and kids so much? um and then of course Uh the fundamental we just got it a big scene before that one about how he's considering Very seriously for a long time killing himself or at least not preventing his own death and Clearly that's something he shared with her He would have shared everything with her by the looks of things and he's trying to explain to him that all he needs to do is Basically love again despite the fact that he knows it can end in horrors and pain because That's the price you pay kind of beautiful And uh, well is is is everything you need now to understand the full conviction It was had from original trilogy guy to guy at beginning of 2018 and we've had everything To explain us from then to now as well All of these lessons that he's come to understand They were all put in his head from an early point on when he was just this raging psycho who wants to be left alone He's pretty much become a much more fully well-rounded person And look look around us in the storyline. How many people do we now know and trust? Yep, it's it's gone so far beyond just him and just him and his wife just him and his son Just him his wife his son and some blacksmiths now we're involving so many people and What are we trying to do as well save realms? Um, and we're we're yet to get the bigger payoffs for all of this as well. It's still not quite done Yeah You get even more of that in side quests again Obviously those are not all in here because then we wouldn't be halfway through This coverage. No, um, but in I think it's in vanaheim. I think might be If you go around with Freya and do the uh, the Freya shrines though that that weird glowy shrine That Freya has oh where where she got married to Odin Is it those ones you're talking about? No, no, no, no, uh, and no wait, it's an alfime. It's not vanaheim It's an alfime. Okay in the in the desert areas with the with the doggo sleds in the sand uh, their crater says Says something. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm doing these things now helping Putting up this monument again because Freya basically says why are we doing this now? Like these haven't been on for like Centuries basically for for a very long time. It's like, oh, it's just We can we can put around some some seeds. So maybe these two Elven factions can become one together in the future and make this like a little the jellyfish Right like the big giant jellyfish. There's one of the parts. It's like the whole side questing is basically Making the realm a bit better even though it's probably not going to do anything for the war itself Yeah, yeah Well, yeah, and honestly, I think that and the crater is also that like the dragon's in the crater and Gameplay wise. I think those were kind of my favorite parts of the game But point being at some point Freya asked why we why we've been doing this and credit says Oh, yeah, my wife told me if you put some seeds down and people have to think about if to want it To have it right here. We can do just so much. We can't just tell them Hey, make peace. We have to pepper some seeds around and then we just have to hope they come around and realize they've been not doing the right thing and the same thing has now happened to Kratos because Faye has put down these seeds when they first met and now everything is growing Basically, and yeah, here we are as is worth mentioning. She Is not some angelic character that provided him all of the Anthos needed she was going through Basically the same thing we find out the As a point of revenge damaged an entire group of people in an attempt to fight Thor And that's what the axe was made for and it didn't go well and It gives a very different understanding to the liner. We're not our mistakes And yes, she's working on herself and Kratos, but she also knows because she's a giant exactly when she's gonna die And clearly that was the scene or we saw the flashback when she finally told Kratos and then try to explain to him like, you know, when I'm gone You don't lose the different motivations you've gained from having met me to do different things Which is pretty much echoed with him in Atreus in Helheim Pretty much the same thing And uh Kratos after all these experiences. He's really coming to make this a part of his operation instead of just arguments. He's heard Yeah, and that takes time as well. It was like matter of said The seeds were planted but in terms of fully coming to appreciate those lessons It's kind of now that it's all starting Uh slot in place What's going on It is time. I'll meet you outside father Sir go put that game face on We'd hope to fly into battle with you one more time like me Me too But not as your queen The sisters are you ready? Yes It will be an honor to fight alongside you. Hi brother I'll be right by your side So What are your orders you have seen sentry? Yeah He ain't in a good place right now But who is i'm sorry lunda I know you and bra just tell me you're gonna get odin Tell me whatever it takes. You're not letting that bastard walk away from this You will not damn bright And if in the process you happen to tear him a bucketload of new holes in places. He don't want them I'll be rightly obliged Historically, you should ask him the right guy General yeah, sir general General sir Hey, bud, uh general lands to escape my past To start a new life. I can hide no longer I do not want this war. We have suffered enough Prophecy did not lead us here Nor will it win this battle Wars are won by those that are willing to sacrifice everything that is the cost of vengeance So be it odin has taken so much from us already The realms have suffered enough No matter the cost this ends Today I'm going out in blaze of glory means odin earns two As well be a big fat smile on my face Well somewhere uh, yeah, it's real epic I didn't feel comfortable interrupting it. I'm sorry. It's just too good I like a lot about how it was staged too like I think having it be in What's effectively an empty hall like an empty dark hall It kind of had it almost seemed like a stage play Like it was like they were you know delivering monologues in a spotlight And it makes some sense that that building's been shut down since the end of the last game and Yeah, they're coming back there and then all the spectacle starts. I like that it was pretty mellow in the way it was shot what was uh I guess to try and go from the beginning the the speech he gave involved like Uh acknowledgement that he's been desperately trying to avoid war no matter what almost out of a Sense of fear of what's going to come as a result of it But seemingly he's come around to the idea that like Uh, not addressing it would be worse Um, and there's time to take charge and that People need a leader, right? That's what it's uh coming into being a general um but also Was a one by those who are willing to sacrifice everything and freya followed up with saying at whatever cost so Interesting to consider those against what critter said earlier about grower's prophecy said did she Did she you know know what it would cost us? Uh, that's that's gonna be coming up very soon at this point, but Yeah, uh Something that makes this so heavy or at least helps is that tears temple in the 2018 game. It's such a Heavy and gradual almost laborious process to be able to move between realms And it's something that not many people can do and you need lots of materials to be able to do it and uh opening each doorway Is like an important element and we haven't been here like was said since the end of the 2018 game Um at least in that room And so having this horn and it's already been set up exactly what it does Uh So then comboing that up with the fucking theme Nice and slow revealing each of the doors lighting up All at once this time And then knowing that the idea is that we all need to take on asgard and odin the Pretty sufficiently epic as well as kratos Reasonably at this point in the story getting to the point of leading all of these realms on these people into war That uh particular track like that section is my favorite piece of music in the whole game Yeah, I can see that. It's pretty darn good um So, yeah, it's uh, it's wartime folks and See how it turns out And if odin goes after nipple hand next you're trying to shut out reagan you gotta stop those war machines Not an ideal start we got work to do you three power Trance with me watch our flecks The war machines So before I let it continue I just think it's uh, it's a neat way to start that we have you get more information on how Ingrid ended up here and what the nature of that sword and frair is is to do with like some Declaration that he'd only ever give the sword if it was uh, he met a woman that he felt like head over heels in love with and odin created like a Think it either he turned into that woman himself Or he created one or something but basically tricked frair into believing Someone was real and so got the sword basically through that Uh, so he's gotten it back.  We saw set up by odin earlier the dwarves created for him The elves are attacking from above and Thor's already trying to wipe them out We got the army of the dead are going to be just running forward basically and uh the first Probably most important thing is to knock out those war machines before they knock out the towers that provide the armies basically Mm-hmm Oh, yes, you're letting the music play Of course It's really good Just try and get a sense of what they're trying to capture with this music. Yeah, exactly as it keeps going it starts to get more and more Downbeat like tragic yeah Tempo's very slow too. It's like 50 beats a minute Not what you'd expect for a massive epic fight, but it really works Yeah, Skolan Harsier here Yay As well as Fenrir This sequence is you could call it a set piece For almost something of an interactive cutscene, but because You are actually still doing the combat in the game.  It's like Busy it gets busy Destroying barge is for the supposed destination is better than nothing Was that it was Odin's new valkyrie queen is gone off I would think so But we must hurry For Midgard, you'll keep going busy at least sound eager good We are running out of armies We'll check the giant giants made it after all This nick looks different. He is different But when I was away, uh Uh, never mind lit the a and harrior's link to balhalla. My sisters and I must separate go Still no sign of the dwarfs the injury won't let us down. We have to trust him Rally all you can we will make for this funnel fun tower Yeah, uh, so if you're paying attention we've lost Any more elves we've only got what we have now and uh The army of the dead is locked off as well which leaves basically all of the major components that manage to get into their towers respectively It's not looking great But the main goal of course is to breach the the walls floor and then get in and uh Solve the mask plot line stop odin probably bump into thaw And then facilitate Ragnarok being surter's arrival. But of course right now it seems that surter isn't arriving She'll be fine. We got more important things to worry about even if we can't reach the wall Better for who the dwarves are here way to go sin tree. Ah, it's just sin tree Delightful odin's infinite I know i'm late. Where is your army?  It's just this this rage coming out of sin tree is uh It's almost just like an unheard voice throughout the whole thing of uh, yeah What what is the deal with the dwarves which in a funny way almost as the dwarves seem to be the most thriving out of all of them But only if they concede to literally every last whim that odin has That's the reality. It's not a it's not a fun one. And so um Yeah, all you have to infer is that sin tree's got knowledge and access Thanks to what the dwarves likely had a hand in considering Uh durlin doesn't seem to exactly be very pro odin and he seems to also somewhat like be pretty Into these war machines creation.  I'm trying to Get to lots of different things. Uh So that was probably something they had built in as a failsafe Yeah purpose to let I would say so these machines were devastating The good guy's side and they've all fallen apart that quickly. It's They must have been something that they would have had planned for that And uh, that is worth putting up as well The hammer that sin tree is using is the one that brock was using in this game as well well before um And I have it I haven't checked but I have it on good authority That it is the hammer you got for brock in 2018 game when you put you on and vari's quest So it's just carrying forwards all these details to make it that much more meaningful When this scene happened is when I was like, oh, I feel like I might end up liking the sin tree stuff after all um Lot of a lot of people just fell over who seemed to be operating those machines Yeah, let's uh, see what happens next More or less what you wanted I didn't want this Close your heart to it Close your heart my guardians Odin took them in They shouldn't be here They're not soldiers Odin put them in our path to die It's war Or is there one by those who are willing to sacrifice Everything what are you doing? And you must never sacrifice that never not for anyone do this offering your mother's wish to face Can we do You see the sides of that thing I think we're gonna win Why have you stopped? Ragnarok is here. We finally have Odin right where we will stop Odin But we did not come to sacrifice the innocent We will breach the wall at Rimbos floor With what army? Petraeus and I will be enough it may be But we will die seeking justice Not vengeance Can that weapon break over the floor only one way to find out you three Get those people to safety wherever you can find it. We'll see you dummy Prey and I will do what we can to Slow Ragnarok Who was not mindless before See if he will listen to reason Odin will not get away if he does I will help those that are trapped And reach you at the fall Go Go atreus We have lost to talk about Yes So everything good that any of these characters do is because of Ingrid from here on out Oh, well that that Ingrid save. Yeah So that pays off pretty much almost everything for Kratos' big arc that he's had from the beginning of 2018 to now The close your heart to it stuff it starts out as a message relating to How you can make it through a harsh and violent world Where you take care of yourself and you don't entertain much beyond your enemy other than kill them This is uh reflected in many encounters And as the games go on we get to learn more and more about the people we're fighting and how much more complicated the situation is And we get several references and this is what Kratos has been alluding to many times over about the cost of the war and when he's Bigging up his his army to go to war he says you sacrifice everything and it's something that resonated with atreus almost immediately along with close your heart and um the The line from frail at any cost and we we blow up these machines, which is a great boon to our side Uh, it's gonna make surta pretty much unstoppable But why are the people screaming and why is atreus upset? What's happening aren't those like what's the deal here with them?   Yeah, that's uh, this is it. This is the breaking point. No not at any cost enough the Every every decision he ever makes is at any cost usually But he's uh, he's putting a stop to it this time And of course when atreus is like well, how do you do that?  Um It's just representative of a significant change in operation You might even say he has made a choice here to change his nature That's in a significant way um, yeah, and Odin pretty much put these people there as soon as he Knew that shit's about to hit the fan for him if I recall correctly Because we when when we first see them arrive here, they're still building up their little huts and everything so they just moved here Uh, yeah, you can see them building it. He's uh, yeah, so it's a very recent thing that happens And it's very calculated because it's a piece of shit Um So someone I wanted to read uh, it was from the the previous stream since it's now relevant I'm gonna read the whole thing and I'm gonna talk about it. All right. It's a grievance. Someone has with this scene Oh, okay. Okay. Go for it Be right back door. Sorry carry on I still don't like the open your heart scene at the end of the game because when kratos said at the first time He had just battled boulder and detraeus said he understood killing animals for food and drauga that were already dead But what about people? In response kratos says close your heart to it on our journey will be attacked by all manner of creature Close your heart to their desperation close your heart to their suffering do not allow yourself to feel for them They will not feel for you This was proven later when atreus had just killed a cannibal reaver who wanted to kill and eat him with no empathy or remorse for His child victim kratos saw the horror and guilt on atreus's face and he said close your heart to it as a reminder of what he said All of this was beautiful in a growing up moment as atreus is uh being prepared for manhood and facing the world by a rational protective and competent father All good fathers know that it's their job to keep their kids grounded and realistic so they can make it through life I love these moments until the writer's a ragnarok strawman the first game with that scene atreus said i know i know close your heart to it Meanwhile i was yelling at the screen saying no you idiot those are random civilians not people attacking you like in the first game kratos go remind your retarded son what you said Then kratos comes opens his mouth and says no i was wrong open your heart to them at that point i'd lost it I was like these writers just character assassinated kratos and ruined the best moment from the first game And butchered the context of the quote with their low IQ potato brain revisionist historian So uh I want to I want to Resist anyone's anyone's interest in being like wow. What a crazy wrong person I I think it's fair. I think that they've come to a conclusion that is understandable I think they're missing a few bits that turn it from What seems like a potential fail or character assassination to what I would argue is kind of genius um kratos isn't Incorrect in the first game where he says when shit attacks you don't try to go like oh man I feel bad for you When it's like at your throat or whatever That shit keeps you alive and that's what his primary goal is at that point The thing is it's it's only a slight variation on a lot of what he's operated on in his whole life It's not like in the original games uh The people who he's killing were like Not trying to kill him a lot of the time a lot a lot of it is that uh Even I I wanted to highlight before with some people that he even resisted killing herra One of the the first examples of him being like, you know what maybe I won't But uh, she kind of goads him a little further and then he goes for it now the context of these Cannibals coming after you Close your heart to them is more so in reference to the act of killing a human being as opposed to understand the plight of the cannibal Uh, that's not what this game is suggesting What's happening in this scene you have to bear in mind because I have a feeling You may have forgotten The mid guardians are indeed innocent But they are soldiers in a war right now Uh, you can argue they were placed there by odin and therefore They don't count the same as a cannibal trying to eat you for his own I don't know starvation But the fact is like kratos had to clarify with atreus who these people are because why are you reacting the way you are They're attacking us. They manned the machines. They were trying to you know prevent our efforts to Stop odin's the whole plan And atreus is trying to point out like, oh, yeah They are the enemy.  I need to close my harks It's going to prevent me from doing what needs to be done, which is winning the war And we do that by any cost and that's the the nature in which you achieve that is by closing your heart It makes you stronger at being able to push through But kratos is finally realizing You know that doesn't actually account for all situations Is a lot of this is pretty much a hypothetical brought to life What if the soldiers you are fighting Are literal civilians that were dropped in place under the promise of being kept alive and told to man machines and press buttons Until good things happen And you rush in there as they are enemy combatants. So I kill them You can do that and it'll keep you safe But maybe there's more to it Maybe realizing that these guys are just people who have been dropped in place by a fucking psychopath that wants to use them for that Very reason Prompts you to have a little bit extra on this advice Maybe you shouldn't close your heart to your enemy open your heart and understand Their motivation their intentions and their consequences of their actions their nature rather than their form I think it's perfect as a final development of kratos is sort of advice for survival and it dovetails perfectly as a Opposite to god of war three where he annihilated his enemies At the cost of everything and the whole civilization was destroyed Meanwhile here Why that he operates now instead of just bringing about destruction he can sort of be an agent Well, not even sort of he can be an agent for good Yeah, this isn't killing civilians who are running for their lives and collecting their health orbs this is Realizing that your enemy combatants Really aren't as guilty of their position As you'd imagine And maybe they could be offered something a little more than just death Even though you wouldn't be considered an evil person for offering them that And this is playing on this wide battlefield among the realms But think about what I just said in terms of the next encounter kratos is about to have in a significant way an enemy That maybe if you offer some more understanding and complexity to the issue you could kill them Or you could try something else If you maybe open your heart instead of close it off Um, so Like I said, I I think I get how you got there But I still don't think that's what's happening and I think they made it pretty clear these guys Have been paying close attention in terms of referencing their own scenes And a lot of it comes back around as a loop When kratos gave the advice about close your heart in the original or in the 2018 game I don't think at the time he was being told about the potential of an innocent civilian group being forced to man machines They didn't even understand to fight a war. They didn't want to fight And so his advice is insufficient Pretty good. It's not quite full So, um, yeah, that would be my time and it's why I quite adore this scene and it's important It takes place here at the climax of a significant decision in the battle And I like that freya has a sense of pushback But she doesn't follow through despite having said earlier at any cost And it's because of that side mission that we told you guys about She's the queen of asgard These people are as guardians at this point You're just gonna let them all die because they're in your way Or you're gonna fight for them. You're gonna do something for them And this is why I think she's willing to take the break as well on the Sort of pinpoint focus on odin Don't be like him. Well, I was about to say because odin would do anything he at any cost, right? It doesn't matter as it's all about his ultimate aim. You don't want to be like him though. You want to be better, right? Yeah, so That's why I just I just think the scene is so fucking on point And it's this climax of the battle where a significant decision takes place and it's so cool The role of general is not arbitrary He gives his orders before and after and the the after ones are so controversial And yet everyone follows because that's the role he was given and accepted And it's time I guess to see the results of that decision Yes Zendry be careful and stay behind me. You be careful. I'm here to fight Zendry don't let him control me You Yes, you get to play as the bear Yeah The amount of risk trained The the makers of this game had they could have just put that in As a as a second transformation you could choose like another another rage mode or whatever No, do you you first you see him? I mean it goes through all the whole game right like in the beginning. He's just going on an absolute rampage He just kills another bear as no control.  That's a trails. What's going on Then a second time we see it.  He's like the he's a finisher out of desperation Finish out of yeah, exactly with his dad to defeat the enemies But like I would say it's worth mentioning the wolf progression too, right because like what he's referencing when he says I've got to stay in control This is everything he learned with angrobota in iron which is by the way, not a worthless part Stuff in there that's useful to the story And yeah, she talked about She talked about bringing the bear out or bringing the wolf out with A particularly strong emotion that doesn't have to be rage and that maybe those emotions can lead you back to some level of control And of course the motivator here is Sindri's in trouble Exactly which dovetails pretty well with one of the last times he brought out the bear was It attacked Sindri now. It's and I think I think there's something there for Sindri go ahead Ha ha ha like watching the bear You know chop these two guys in half in front of him Yeah, it's pretty pretty great. Uh, very good job with those transformations What you want to thank you no, I just want I don't care what you want this changes nothing You really had me believing you that we didn't have to be enemies dude You're okay.  You do that a lot. I'm not sure that's a defense. It's not a defense I just want to make it right It's gilder. Okay. Have you seen him? Why wouldn't he be? What are you talking about? Odin is willing to sacrifice some of the guardians. He put them along the wall to try and deter us knowing they can't fight Their deaths are just meant to slow us down Why would he do that and how am I supposed to believe you? because He's right It's who Odin is It's who he's always been Mom, where are you here? What? He'll sacrifice anyone at a problem of one of him The main guardians Your friend Our family any of us I'd hope that your father would stand up to him, but now It has to be you Mom, what are you saying? I never doubted that you would make the finest valkyrie These realms have ever seen But not for him Do you understand our family without Odin? We can be one again A real one what he's doing is wrong Held our ground.  Yeah So yeah, this is all Super purposeful, right? So you have this war is happening So the whole family realized at this point This is the reckoning that's been long time coming and it's the one chance to maybe actually make the difference Sif with everything she's seen so far knows Thor can't do it Thor isn't the one to take down Odin So now she's trying to encourage all the other components to work toward either convincing Thor to do it or to just work together to take down Odin themselves And what is Sif doing during this?  I love you too.   It's so awesome Yeah, and yeah to get him off him.  It's sort of like um Because of the when you fight the first boss of dark souls three again towards the end of the game. Sorry So epic It's fantastic All right, this part here Rain So cool My son calls her friend if you try to hurt her what I've done. Yes Why isn't he dead? Are you talking? Who told you to do that?    Yeah It pisses me off in the best way that media could well because it's what happened there Drop the hammer or yeah media realized that thaw was no longer under his control And the immediate reaction is well, I got to get rid of him Because if I don't troll him he can't be around if he's of no use to me He can't be of any use to anyone Exactly as in like I will I need him to not be of use to anyone Yeah, and then in in classic odin fashion through season.  Yeah, and like right after stabbing thaw like and he's smart enough to know.  We're almost three million. He lies Yeah, he's he's more than used to it, but he's also perceptive enough to know when it's not working.  We're done. That's it. Yeah, we're done.  There's no changing it. There's no point in changing it. Don't think about it. Just do it Don't feel just You know what we are. This is what we're here to do. One of us dies Yep And like you don't know me don't try to appeal to me.  Yes, exactly He's trying to give someone who's going for the same thing The same kind of chance of redemption that he's going through right now trying to change and yeah Odin robs him of it immediately The the thing that works for thaw is making an appeal to Uh, his daughter essentially is like you need to be better for the sake of the people that you care about That's like the thing that's going to work for thaw. That's like what he needs Yeah, because kratos knows that would work for him.   It doesn't need to keep happening. You can change your nature You don't like thinking you say that all the time That's it and uh I think just just before which is this is the thing they're running all kinds of different comparisons arcs and parallels And this was one they hadn't done which is what if At the point of realization It gets snuffed out Like it's uh, this is why when people were saying like I hate how the happy ending of the game or whatever It's like hey, what do you mean? Uh happy ending. That would be nice I say God killer Was this everything you hoped for was your plan really? All that much better than mine? I hope you got exactly What you want Not quite yet Think you're the only one who can craft a binding spell I spent Many long winters Thinking about what I would say to you As I watched you take your last Uh, but now I realize there's only one thing I need you to know You have no hold on me anymore And that's my friend. I forgot how could you luck with wings?   So they'll just be like it's horrible Like why is she saying anything that she's saying? Go on. Give a guess She is the queen of asgard correct That's a good start mark. Honestly. That's literally the queen of asgard Let's start out with the literal correctness of the statement. We can begin there So, uh, what is what is freya's story up to this point?  Some people were like she sounds kind of evil in this speech. Yes She's incredibly vengeance driven right now. She's pretty much explicit This has been something she's been wanting to do forever And she says like she's so much as says at the beginning of her speech She wants to cause him pain. She wants him to understand what it's like to lose This is her villainous speech to an extent. She's obviously trying to just Exact vengeance, which isn't exactly necessarily a bad thing in every single circumstances.  Uh, this is the first opportunity. She's had to actually do something this time last time obviously she had to Brian save brock's life uh to no avail. So Yeah, she she she says Basically all of the things that regard like why she would do all of this and It's funny to me that everyone points out the bow to your queen moment when Nobody takes issue with the fact that odin placed them with a magical spell To the point where they're essentially dealing to him Like do you get it? It's a power play with odin Everything is he has to be in charge. She's finally got him in a binding spell with a charged object He was using in in trying to search for knowledge She's got one on him.  Um She has one opportunity to tell him to bow and she takes it I don't know man.  Maria. Have you considered that you might be a simp? Well, the thing is i'm a simp to all of the characters as far as i'm concerned Mahler is a soy confirmed. Let's go. I just don't get it sometimes like Is it just we cannot have a scene where a woman tells a man to bow? No, there's no context Necessarily inherently women are cringe It's um and her opening them wings to show him.  I mean response. She straggles him again Yeah, Odin's uh, not so easy to talk down to um, he's just into choking It just looks like he's dragging it more. Um, I think she has been destroyed and damaged thoroughly throughout the entire games This is the first proper win.    I say objective I just this is what I mean like it doesn't I don't understand. I never do but it's fine That's that's the that's the story as I saw it. It was a great payoff for Freya's Entire journey. I don't even see how it could be seen as anything else There's a couple more things for her to have happened, but this was a big moment as well Um, but don't worry.   I know Maybe I'm lucky I'm gonna hit die before that. I don't know It's gonna hit me like a freight train and I'm ready for it or so. I think Freya train like a freya train Father you did it Loki No, no, no no more fighting. No None of that matters now This is your moment, Loki Roa tried to hide you from me, but this is your destiny champion of the Yotanar Only he can put on the mask Only he can gaze into the truth of creation Unfold the secrets of life and death no more doubt no more confusion You were born for this Loki ask it Ask it the question This is your choice, son. What was it all for? You choose to be nothing No, man, it's just it's that's that's what it is. He's now What what was it all for? Yeah Damn, yeah, man. That's that's a good question to be asking at this point Because I mean it's like he said right no more doubt no more confusion. That's like his goal He just wants certainty about the future He doesn't like the uncertainty of existence of life And so like he's determined at any like cost to be able to know that Um, which has led to all this and now well, yeah, what was all this for all this destruction The obliteration of asgard all of these things that he's done What was the point of it now that that's been stolen from him totally locked away forever You got an interesting villain Yeah, and that ultimate choice for trace. I was his hero's journey right there That was everything he was asking for this whole game was the truth the knowledge the understanding and uh Seeing what it's done to all of these innocent people across the whole story thanks to odin's very same pursuit It's like why so that you can get an answer to a question Who even knows what you'll get from doing that shit? Yeah, really?  Yeah, he was uh, yeah, he's gonna justify every move he made with that He said I he he argued to atreus at one point that this was gonna be What we can use to make the realms a better place Like it was it was always Whatever power he gained from this it was he was gonna use it to make everything better So it would be okay Also kratos giving atreus the choice of course Just like yeah, I trust you I mean, yeah at this point it's it's his choice to make instead of yeah Like yeah, it's a big old journey flames. And yeah, I think a kratos Would have guessed at this point what what a decision he's probably gonna make but um, Actually overtly giving him that chance is super important The answer is 42 true Late for that Pretty fantastic This was our chance Okay, that song is oh it's hard not for me to pick that as my favorite.   I think my favorite is the main theme I got a couple favorites at this point. I'm I refuse to choose between them, but that one is phenomenal and I love the combo up of just The kratos friar and atreus. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. If you go into pause menu by the way You have them all three in there as well It's kind of the little detail here Could have had my answers. I could have learned the truth You took that away from me I could have made things better. We could have made the nine realms better This was never about the realms or me. It was about you.   It wasn't my choice I had no choice. There's always a choice. What choice do we have? There is always a choice Ah Very good You can choose to be better. No, I can have to know what happens next I Will never stop Why'd you have to say that? sofna up Desu sofna Hey, son sofna sofna I swore I would never rob from you the choice between life and death. I have waited so long For this moment. I don't need this to make me home We stopped his madness That's all that matters And that's why you never toss a dwarf go as far back as Odin basically admitting like there is nothing else for him. There is only finding that out That's it. And so knowing that The the cost will never go away. He'll always do it. And so Fitting in with what decision these characters can make considering What we've been learning about trying to find a way to not always end everything with killing someone You know atreus takes his soul puts it into the marble And kratos doesn't feel the need to smash it himself Or to do necessarily anything with it. He hands it to freya to match The uh the echo of what he told her in vanaheim And then she realizes that the damage he is caused or could cause Is completely stopped by him being stored in a marble. So That can be it And this is the thing all three of these characters have come that far to be able to make that decision And they are still repercussions of everything that odin has decided to do and yet Looks like he's gonna make it Until that other repercussion comes in The dwarf Yep, the dwarf who he wouldn't have given a second thought Is the one that kills odin Because of that choice that he made to kill brak who he considered insignificant and annoying And ended up being his ultimate undoing That vengeance. Stindry is god of war one kratos as well. Yep And uh, he's just absolutely cleanly done. This that's what happens you do that this happens next that sort of attitude And if you notice as well, it was the sound of something coming that alerted sindry and he just disappeared Wouldn't even suggest maybe that Something is about to happen that would put everyone in peril. He's done.  He's killed by sindry Yep All because we're paying attention To exactly how everything would run if certain events take place And we only have to move certain pieces and certain orders to make them happen Um pretty great. It's not going to be something that Anyone here is going to lose that much sleep over. I think atreus. Maybe we'll feel a little bit bad about it. But uh, yeah I imagine kratos sees this is just Yeah, I've been there man like yeah the Gonna need time I suppose that I mean he was killed by atreus like I think we we've already seen you could be pulled from the Marble to be put into something else yeah Also the uh, the marble pole the frame you get is the looks pretty much the same as the mural where kratos was on before Yeah, now there's odin in this place.  Yeah, there's no one He maybe goes through a light, but he definitely doesn't go to valhalla next That's what he said. So yeah, we don't we don't know where he goes. Well, someone said yeah, he goes to Well, how well to be fair if you don't actually see any light come from the the ball then that could imply That what cindy has done is annihilate him basically Uh, maybe actually, yeah, we give it another look You can't tell because the light Yeah, like that could be the soul escaping that could also just be an effect It's not like four distinct lights come out of the ball and go somewhere else peacefully But there is an explosion of light. So yeah Yeah, well in that case, I guess we can't know for sure. Um But I the point is I don't think odin's coming back No Is ragnarok, he's here Roadster save again time to go He didn't get stride stuff. Okay, follow me quickly There's time I'll be with you But your path is your own and you'll end up right where you're supposed to be There he is wake up atreus Wake up. Where is my father? Somewhere here in the hold He'll be glad to see you I suppose there's some things to say about that and um Obviously ragnarok came Even though at that point it wasn't even needed. Uh, which is just again in line with the whole like It doesn't really matter what your intentions are once you've set something in motion um The angrobota obviously was already in the big fight. So The the assumption is obviously she'll just command benria to open the portal up Or you know, it makes enough sense. Uh I There's there's questions about um could uh Breyer have been saved Um, yeah, I I wasn't crazy about that death I mean, it happens really fast, but I don't know that it doesn't line up in terms of like what he's doing with that sword I I presume is actually making a difference Yeah I'm not I'm not saying that it it was totally pointless. It just kind of felt like As the heroes are making their desperate escape I I didn't necessarily need there to be another major character death and I think uh Freya in particular it seems like he could be A cool character to play as in spin-offs and stuff, especially with ingrid Like because I don't know that we can talk about it more later about what it seems like they're doing after this But I think it's pretty clear that they tried to make it seem like there's a few possible player characters for future projects Um potentially obviously what I think they're going for with freya though was that he'd always felt like he uh never quite Made the uh sort of leadership decisions or whatever that that Require a lot of sacrifice. He was always sort of just floating through and having good times and then on the other end you've got freya who uh Tries to stop the ones she loves from being able to make decisions like that right she needs to be the one that Allow it or disallow it. This is this is that's why it acts as a big moment for her as well. I I think it's satisfying as an ending to his story on both his end and her end um So like I Don't know and like I I felt like I knew him for long enough that I kid For what he did so I don't know that I have very likable Like I can't really complain. I guess is what I'm saying Um, like people are saying he dies as part of ragnarok in the myths. Like that's not really an argument. I would use um for the sake of Just that I mean because Yeah, it's not totally invalid at the same time. I just I wouldn't use that as my Well, like didn't fenria Fenrir is supposed to kill Odin so Like I imagine that if I was to use accuracy as a boon to the story Then we're gonna have to deal with all the I should highlight all the inaccuracies So I'd probably rather talk about it aside from adaptation, but um Yeah, and I I assume the sword's done as well Yeah, I would guess so with all the fire stuff that's probably happening there. Uh Yeah, I don't think there's any sword left unfortunately because the sword's really cool Yeah, we don't know what's become of asgard like when they say destroyed. What does that mean? Yeah Well, yeah, whatever it meant is asgard is no longer accessible question mark I guess it should be right. Is everything just floating in space now? I don't know. Do they mean? Yeah, it depends on what they mean by it could just mean a great like a Great bomb went off. Yeah, it could be the whole realm is a wasteland. It could be that it's been Undone and remade there. You could do pretty much anything with that especially with such You know that The interpretation of prophecies and how no one really sees what happens. Who knows Well, we do get like after we're done with the whole story There's like pieces of asgard in realms everywhere So I guess the the idea is is actually like Completely wrecked somehow like the access to the what we would consider realm is actually just gone. It is Yeah, like the realm itself. However, that function is has been damaged beyond repairs Yeah, some pieces have been flung into other realms, but then I guess it just got destroyed So there might be something there, but doesn't seem to be any way to get there at the moment Stop it. I'm fine Threwed Loki. I'm so glad you're both alive You have no idea and I'm sorry Thor He was He tried, you know, I'm sorry. I couldn't do more Nothing will fix what you're feeling, but I hope There's some comfort In knowing Odin's gone. They are absolutely his Loki it was an honor to fight alongside a giant Know that will you stay here in midgard for a bit? Then I've got something I need to find I'm working with Hilda's Vini to get the rest of the asgardians to vanaheim To help rebuild then I hope it can be a fresh start for them and you Oh and through I hope you find what you're looking for Good luck See you, Loki Take care Were you there of your weapons damaged in the battle? I think they're fine. Maybe a couple nicks here and there. Well, we can have them looked at later We might not need to nonsense The shield maiden needs all of her tools in working order That seagrin would probably chew you out if they were dull. Oh, she would would she? I know I certainly would I also know you would Logan made it out good for him And if you so we're supposed to assume that that When he threw the ravens at them he threw the first one I think atreus shot it with an arrow and the second one freya grabbed and broke its neck Yeah, but which one didn't die. I assume the one that was shot by the arrow Yeah, I don't think you Did he get hit I thought I could have sworn he threw one and atreus shot it he threw the second and atreus Freya grabbed it and broke its neck I thought one just got away. I mean, I would need to double check it could be wrong But that's what the reason why I break this up is because if that is the one that survived the one that was shot by atreus It's just funny like you like oh you survived.    So it teleported out Well, yeah, I'm just curious about the arrow. It was like I'm free. I'm free I'm curious for the arrow. Yeah teleported directly to a veterinarian got some sutures. Yeah Get this wood over to brocky. Hey, hey, glad to see the head injury didn't make you forget me Did you have a head injury? Everything was a blur. Maybe that was someone else Anyway, man, I'm just I'm really glad to see you. I'm glad to see you too Looks like you're keeping busy I'm just happy to help folks. We're on track to have bed rolls for everyone and your friend's wolves have been helping out with hunting We should have plenty to feed everyone.   And hey, thank you for everything It wouldn't even be here without you and your friends. Yeah, of course I I just wish we could have gotten more people out. Look You did good. Thanks Skeilder Take care. Okay. Hey You know me Has anyone seen any extra blankets lying around that snow might be melting but it's still gonna be pretty cold in this place Oh, there he is And one for the kid too Skull here here school We wouldn't be here if it weren't for you And fryer sacrifice. It's true. Well, we were just Swapping our own fryer fables. Right. Right. So where was I? Oh When we met I was expecting this warrior this master planner a born leader The legend came before the man But the man himself was very different He won me over though He was just so damn kind I think it helped that he was handsome. This is true And incredibly charming. All right, stop. You're going to start crying all over again Sorry Gotta go find my father. What are you saying for you? Y'all remember that panel if I remember correctly. It was you who lit it on fire in the first place Well, I'm flammable. It wasn't you were showing off that enchanted bellows of yours and sparks flew everywhere I'm pleased to see you awake prayer It was his choice I couldn't take that from him.  Thank you for everything. I should find my father.  She's uh appreciating the new one probably relating to her relationship with Kratos Atreus and the remaining vanaheimians Vanier as you might say Yeah, uh Anyway You gave us quite a scare there. Glad to see you too. My mirror Listen, it's on my barrel. I want to thank you. Oh What else did you expect from the smartest man alive? It's not just because you're smart You listened to me mentored me and well You're basically another dad to me. Why no I need you to hear it I appreciate you so much Huh I love you too little brother See you my mirror It's good to see you about atreus You too held his beanie That's correct. Oh Never thought I'd see the day vaniel and acl existed in peace How optimistically presumptuous of you I suppose so we offered to take them in But I don't expect things to be easy right away. Well something to work towards Seability is certainly a start Yeah, it reminds me of um Mamiya finally getting to say to pray a thanks for saving my life sort of thing the same way of Mamiya's only gonna have been providing advice and Just general sort of support for atreus and all these years So, yeah It's just it's just appreciated as like, you know, you're an incredibly important aspect of my the whole life Essentially, he's just like ah, don't worry about it. I'm fine. Just a bit of jokes at the corner. Don't worry about me It's nice down here, huh? No loud noises We're okay. You did so good today boy. I'm so proud of you Maybe later we can find some treatments.  Yeah, we know him Maybe one of these days I'll surprise you Oh You already have for saving us. I decided It would be better if I Wrote the ending myself. You haven't told your father yet. Have you told him about what come on Giant visions. I already saw it I get it every part of me is telling me this is what I have to do I just don't know how to say it. I've got something I want to show you Both of you This is for you too. That's right. Yes I am glad you are well I'm glad you are too So What was the end of the story? What? Before Ragnarok You promised to finish it if I fell asleep When death arrived He asked why the old man had called for him Seeing death before him caused the old man to reconsider his request After a moment He asked that death help him lift the logs onto his back so that he may continue on his journey He wasn't ready to die. He was to keep living There's a lot of smoke out there so That is the second half and of course atreus there gun him for the um What I would call like the the the conclusion of what a what a good old kratos tell it a story of the A desire to die but then a conclusion of actually no But I think something Little more going on and I actually think it's probably deliberate on kratos' part as well, right? like the we already talked about how Atreus is one of the big things that changed his whole perspective on whether or not even would consider it That's we got that in the third flashback with fey But I think as part of the story Like I want to die death shows up and like acknowledging the existence seeing it there Knowing that that's a pathway that's like imminent or even possible. It's motivation to stay alive He to say death helped him Move those logs. It's like the implication is uh his experiences with understanding it and seeing it coming and knowing It was going to happen made him have a new lease on life so to speak alongside everything else He's not quite done. I mean that's Basically the rating of that story. Yeah Yeah, I think kratos has gotten better at telling stories Little certainly better at getting subtaxed in a man. Some ox, you know Some peaks and dips Seems when asgard fell pieces of it landed all over the realms There might still be some in her yard near them but That's not what I brought you here to see Mother my shrine in yodin on She destroyed it. She didn't want us to know our fate We forged our own path because of her She went against her own people our people To protect you It don't all open I'm sorry Father I I need to talk to you about something There are other giants out there And I've got to find them. I think I know where to look but They're my responsibility. I need to do this alone I I don't want to do it alone, but I need to it's hard to explain Does it frighten you? I took this why you must do it You can just go tell brock I don't need to fight it Right no, we will fight it. But why?   I'm so surprised they managed to draw that. That's uh The kind of thing you could easily miss Excellent Yeah, that's a kid Who took off friend you are ready remember I promise There it is Mm-hmm Don't be way too many things to talk about so we're gonna take it piece by piece, all right? Okay So that yeah, that's that's basically this their relationships pay off both games. Yes like a hundred hours Ridiculous And they they yeah, they obviously starting out one of the first things he tells atreus is you're not ready the consistent element of having to raise him and prepare him and then realize himself when it's time for Atreus to be able to approach this willed on his own Or at least with his own decisions Kratos has given him a sign of The the trust that he has in him You know earlier like when uh during ragnarok Yeah, um And that whole like a part of someone remains with you even when they're gone or whatever just just using Loki and atreus to Signal it is uh All right, it's pretty beautiful and and the performance man. Did he nail the emotion there? Oh, yeah He often gets um Double takes and stuttering to feel so genuine too I guess that's what it is to be a good actor Christopher judges an absolute MVP in these games. He's so good Um Yeah, and and of course the If something frightens you then back of it head on sort of thing like his encouragement to overcome obstacles being accurate You did a good job kratos Well, I think the scene also kind of functions as a a way to solve for the um The uh, it was kind of the the mcu phase two problem like post adventures It's like wise in captain america calling iron man right now Whereas if they want to do a An atreus game or like one of those kind of standalone dlc things they do like the miles morales spiderman game They could have it make sense as to why kratos isn't there like already. It's not like, okay Well, why is atreus off on his own? It's like well because he said he was going to go off on his own adventure Yeah They have plenty of options obviously Why did you see in there brother? We'll see to it best scene in the game So good It's the best scene. What's my favorite scene? Best endings ever Yeah, yeah, um the mural That moment is incredible. Yeah. Oh, I adore it It's really really great The path that he had never envisioned imagined the path that he was on nonetheless It's um It's it's it's powerful because of the fact that it's it's drawing up basically his entire history Yes, yeah, it's just packed into that one moment If if uh if 2018 was I'm a monster, but I'm not your monster anymore than ragna rockers. I'm not a monster anymore Yeah So everything he's been trying to escape is is now like seen as a possibility Yeah, a real possibility. Yeah He's not just a some guy who survives some guy who survives and looks after himself and some other people He loves and some guy who looks after a decent bunch of people or a whole realm or he's like To be known as a person that is worth Worshiping and praying to because of his virtue like What kind of example are you gonna set? Never ever ever ever thought that was a possibility and spent most of his life believing that you Never be forgiven Yeah, let alone be praised for the actions he's taken, but that's the thing he's done so much work But it's something that it's it's kind of why the payoffs work so well because it doesn't necessarily hit you as a As a possibility in a sense like no one's gonna make a statue for him But you're like well think about everything he's done Like yeah, you find this age and working and what makes it.   Yeah, exactly.  Anyone ever worshipped you do you even know that adoration? And I was like, no, yeah, I had those war people that liked me.  I've got this new power as a god of war I'm putting sparta on the map. We're gonna dominate Because that's what else is there? This is part of what informs his sort of directionless depression in in the 2018 and ragnarok games of like All he ever knew growing up was war.  Well, I'll just sail away And you know and and what what did they say when she met up with him they nearly killed each other Yeah, it's uh A lot that that is informed by and yeah He's he may have been worshiped as a as a god of war that Makes a place stronger and better and wins wars and stuff, but like what he's looking for and I assume How odin got to him is that he's never been worshiped for who he is Uh, certainly not for the man. He is now compared to the man He never wants to be again, which is basically original trilogy kratos excluding the end of god of war 3, I guess mm-hmm Which uh a lot of people forget but that you know credit to god of war 3 despite its cringe like that's where the arc starts They um, I think they wanted when they were reaching the third one to to make more of a point than just he kills everything Mm-hmm, and that then leads into 2018 and that concludes with ragnarok with these so many Very very complicated and detailed messaging messages about how you can approach all kinds of like control over your own Sort of emotional outbursts and what I can say about you as a person while simultaneously the choices you make Not only define what kind of person you are, but it it it is the entire essence of the difference between Engaging in fate or subverting it like you're a you are you that that's the important part make your choices and make them meaningfully Don't adhere to some like controlling force outside of what you believe you should do And that all gets uh variables through all of these different pieces of advice Different arguments realizations and then all of that is cycled through all of these different characters That are going through very similar journeys, but all have different results different variables surrounding them So much to be said about parenthood and It just existence beating like uh this game hits a lot of fundamentals And then and then some of the specific relationships hit people particularly hard because of um how much they can line up it's um What we would likely consider a very meaningful game and for it to culminate on that scene a man who Sees redemption which is so important for so many people across the world with the Some of the mistakes we all make We all want to know there's a way to come back basically yet Uh, Kratos says he sees a path Who would have thought we're gonna join him in doing that too because now Freya's got a path available to her for the rest of her life exactly I mean, I guess she's right now the de facto leader of the realms. I guess you could say I pretty much. Yeah. Yeah If the monarch of asgard is the one who leads all the realms then I suppose so yeah So yeah, uh, lots of lots of good stuff in this. That's uh, man And it's not even the end No The music Yeah, listen to it I am I can't not do it So good We should probably talk about gana gana. We don't need to talk about her. We just need to find her But Odin chose her as his new valkyrie queen a varnier goddess your friend Gana pledged loyalty to asgard long ago and our friendship ended soon after what happened I made a choice One she couldn't accept Kratos She hates me She will be a problem for us better. We find her than she finds us And another one for the big boy himself for the big boy himself skull Is there a gnaw fight in the endgame yet for the yeah That's in there. She's in. Oh it is in there. I I was there for a bit Yeah, I force her uh, I quarter and killed her is uh, the fun five minutes Mel, how uh, how are you doing with it?  You took way longer with the berserker fight Without that long The thing is I like the berserker king fight. I don't think you like the gnaw fight Thank you. I don't know. I was just frustrated. It was a cool fight. I think I appreciate it Man, I got fucked up and bring all the supplies we can although it won't be much Don't worry about it. Anyone who's able can head out for extra supplies a seer and varnier together Linda also mentioned there's going to be a get-together to honor brock's memory rabs taverners faffle I like to go. What is wrong? I know nothing. It's just Don't know if you've heard, but we're going to say goodbye to brock in spartle time a funeral Yeah We're meeting at rabs tavern in need of a lear We will be there alternate lyrics to my balance Absolutely disgusting I wish I could remember some of them The paperwork that man created for me I had to look just just for his violations a book one I thought I'm 20 different ways to cold forge a bolster One he taught me a slightly easier method of wire pulling and from that day on called me his apprentice A true asshole he was Gods, I'm gonna miss him Y'all made it Just about to send him off.  It's uh In the wetlands near the ferry We'll wait for you there What is wrong? I should have Changed Sown some morning guard were not dressed properly We're fine The dwarves don't typically require formal wear of funerals rock certainly would not Perhaps Phil now you've got me thinking of what I might look like with some jewelry around my next stump Maybe some gold woven into my beard. I'd be quite a veteran, eh? Thanks for trying There they are brother Oh, come on early. He'll be along. It's his brother. Let's hope so Lost can do things to a man You made it We couldn't begin Can't speaker the more you take away. So what was that with happy ending? Who said that? That was the first time I saw that and that was awesome. I'm sad. I missed that. Oh, you missed that damn Dude, I thought I'd finished the game already That's the hard credits Wouldn't be kind of neat if movies had after credit scenes that added that amount of narrative weight Well, it wasn't technically it was a before credit scene. Like this is the oh, I guess Yeah, I mean that's true. Although the credits did come up as you're walking down the mountain. Yeah Fantastic stain Yeah, it was really good Fantastic, it's mad and paid off the riddle Yeah Incredibly well in a way that it it sets you in a position of laughing with it and at it and then it Yeah, it's you like a ton of bricks and Fucking destroys you I can understand why We had it was actually really useful for them to have two endings so to speak because One of them makes a point about the protagonist and how far he's come this one I think makes a point about how did this all start? Why? It's all down to a man and what he lost Pretty much everyone else in this storyline that we meet has a significant role has also just had shit taken away Yeah, and there is no Cap on that the more you take the bigger the hole Yeah And we might never find out what happens to sin tree.  Yeah Well, that's the thing i'm comfortable with uh Yes, story ending here Is more than enough. It's just that uh, it would never end reasonably in terms of like Uh the franchise As far as I know like how would they do that it would make No real, I don't know business sense to make a sin tree game Yeah, which is you know We'll end up with another pantheon or several knows. Yeah.  They want more going for Mm-hmm, or at least Just gonna say at least what this is they want more of it Yeah It's like I want more like if it stays like this But if you would tell me this is the last thing we get I was like, you know what?  They did one for Uncharted called I think lost legacy Yeah, the one with like Chloe and Naomi and then um miles morales is probably the most recent example Um, yeah, I mean since we're at the odd credits. Um, yeah Conclusions while there's a couple things left after the I had let two songs play and then I skipped so Oh, okay. Okay. Just have that on the background. Yeah. Do you guys think it was all right? Well, I guess it's okay Yes, it's excellent It's very very good. I'm extremely glad that I walked through it and I'm very glad that Like I said, I'm glad that this is something in a video game Yeah, even as far as we've come video games aren't often, uh, what people think about a lot of the times when it comes to, um Wrong tourist storytelling. Yeah strong storytelling. So You know, it's good that it's here that all this effort got put into it I'm glad the game's doing well It's just really encouraging To see that sort of thing Well, I think you asked me like halfway through so it's 2018 still your favorite one I was like, I don't know it might be a bit of jeopardy and then I finished the game. It's like Yeah, no, this is my favorite game now. I mean, I guess it's the package deal, right 2018 and this one together like You can't have this one with the with the 28 without actually without any of the other games uh Yeah, I think it's fantastic like as I said already just putting in the effort And respecting the games that came before it taking the baggage with you and actually make it into something meaningful all the way at the end it's just fantastic, it's Yeah, absolutely great it's uh Incredibly intricate and complex all the different things they weaved into this to make significant points like several of them. I've Despite the fact the the story as we've displayed it at around eight hours, uh You know, it's like four times the size of the average movie Uh still the absolute level of content shoved in here for for storytellers insane And uh, what a job they did Trying to turn something that is known for being a goofy power fantasy of running around and ending things lives because why not into like Something that can make you think about the why behind all of it and where you could go next For the character that's that consumed by it not to imply there's nothing to think when it comes to The original trilogy in terms of what's going on for the character, especially including the the two psp games and ascension and stuff Uh, instead it is to say they took ideas for where they were going to try and push creators or commentary on him as a character and embraced it hardcore Really ironed it out and made something that I think is really worth celebrating. It's rare that we get to Walk about a story That has this level of variables in it that managed to stay this coherent. Yeah Maddening to think about the amount of work they must have put in this whole fucking package It's I don't even know to begin Untangling all these threats that go through this all these games The song was playing right now it got the known Choir sort of the kratos' side the fey theme coming in And then yeah, they both sync up As the song continues as though delicious.  Yeah shows it really shows when everyone is on board and everyone cares Uh, yeah So I can't help myself, but I get it. I get it. I love And I love this game. I man, it's too. It's really impressive very impressive It's like you said metal the amount of material that they had and how coherent it is And how focused it is while being this incredibly expansive story in terms of the number of characters The scope of the plot as well as the breadth of themes that they were exploring. It's very impressive The tunes I just want to say something but it's just went away so never mind. Oh well We might never know We may never know Still think it's kind of a miracle. We managed to cover eight hours in the time that we did Uh, yes I don't know if there's anything beyond the light after lives after after lives or whatever you but if there is Well, I imagine he's causing one crazy ruckus there Shizzle He's f**king all over the place Forgive sundry.  He wouldn't have it many other days That was good. Hello master kratos What you've accomplished for these realms is truly something I never thought possible Our rest assured good master rock would be proud beyond measure Even if only to express it in his love language of profane non sequiturs Ah, but he is terribly missed Yes He is Now there is one rather interesting development to apprise you of the detonation of asgard shook the world tree to its very root Dislodging a great number of realm seeds. I thought you might wish to have them my little way of saying Thank you for preventing my death by emulation You are welcome I wonder if sundry will ever come back Can this place ever feel like a home after what happened here?   Yeah Um, yeah, that's it. That's that's got a war ragnarok story Our adventure through that massive game. Yeah It was pretty neat which in part is you know, just the second half of another really huge story, so Yeah, which The second half of a two sides of a franchise, right? Have a giant. Yeah, I'm much bigger story Oh I don't know if there's only so many ways that you can it's yeah, I can't I can't stop Really have a hard time just stop praising this game. It's like it's my little holy grail at the moment This is one of the best characters. Oh, absolutely.   There's an entrance to the prison in the prison is tear You kind of start to put it all together Dylan on the surface was saying i'm finding you Is trick in conjunction Conduction conjunction i'm getting tired with odin probably with odin's approval was to trick them into going to get tear in the swaddle time Mines, right? There's only so much Uh, dylan can do he was building those machines as well But the the clue as to where tear is was given by the squid Yeah, it was handed out It's just uh, it's like that they didn't have to do that, but they did they really didn't And there's a lot of moments like that throughout the game of you didn't have to but you did It's just out of all ads up here when you want to have something you can look back on and be proud of Yeah, caron dedication dedication to the craft like what's up with you too? Especially if you're making something that's primarily a kind of story driven It's a good way to get people incentive to go through it again is throw in details like wait people are saying The prism was in asgard and it fell. I think the the the bridge to it gave access to it if the prism was originally in asgard then that's Yes, I think the Just the path got got opened up by that as far as I knew it was because I remember isn't there other references to there being a prison in niefelheim Maybe I don't recall I could have sworn there was but Um, I would argue that's much worse if the prism happened to explode and survive And tia was inside it like that Yeah, that's much worse. So um I hope it isn't that but if it is that that well you have that Because I feel like that just disconnects a whole bunch of connecting pieces um I'm getting tired too. I'm pretty sure it was a new path. No, it falls from asgard right chat I over it and then let me know once we figure out which one it was and I'll be here Or maybe I won't be I think I might be asleep I'll be here in spirit The prism was in niefelheim the chunk of asgard created a path. This is the thing I You guys decide, right? Because I think we're a little pooped out and one of us is gonna need to go soon. So Um, I'm trying to think what else should we say in closing? um Of course, we're gonna do like a catch up for the for the super chats. It's just that we've These streams and the saturday one. I don't even know if we'll have time as well with what's planned you guys Oh god, christmas night miss. Um We've we've been recording catch ups as well. We're just desperately trying to um Get on top of all of it, but of course we'll we'll be labeling as appropriate We recently finished all the rings of power ones. I'm gonna try and release that as one big thing Funny enough guys, there's two completed efeb episodes that aren't even out and we just did a double this week. It's uh So, you know It's something Try to talk about things are happening This year you're not going to get a christmas efeb movies. There's just no time. I can't I can't get that sorted out in time. Um But yeah, you're right. Just looked it up characters do mention seeing a chunk of asgard not referring to the prison, but the I assumed that's what it was. It would be weird with the squid otherwise, right? That doesn't really match up um, maybe I'll have a look on the um Uh, the the the wiki as well. I don't know either way the plan like I said is saturday. We're gonna check out Ragnarok criticism with the same gang. It'll be great Whoa fun and great um Is was there anything else anyone wanted to say about ragnarok? Fucking love it pretty cool Um, I wish the pc version came out at the same time as the ps5 version, but i'm okay getting it PS5 version runs at 60. So it's okay. Yeah. No, I'm happy. Very good. It's pretty good Good times. Well, all right. Um, and how about uh, I don't know I we kind of did it on the last stream, but and you'll be able to do it again on saturday But if you guys want to talk about you know, the things you're up to the reasons why people should check you out Uh, then you know what go right ahead fine I'm doing streams and stuff. No, it's metals metals fortune friday. I I snatched myself the smart person over there Yeah, and we're just gonna talk about some some random Stuff like the trailers that came out a bit of calisto bit of Everything just gonna gonna be chill chat to runes So yeah, come come come check that out. That's gonna be friday night. It's gonna be fun stuff I'm sure that there's a link down below. I'm sure. Wow. You forgot my link mutually.  It's starting to get weird. I keep putting yours in and it keeps not staying in YouTube hates me really odd Um, it'll definitely be on the reupload because I yeah, that's where I often find that they It's like, oh, it's there Yeah, yeah, I'm uh, I'll say yeah just saying again. I'm not doing twitch streams anymore I'm I'm full full on the youtube side now. So you won't find me on the twitch It's all on the metal commander channel So there you go. It's gonna be gorming. I played some dwarf fortress yesterday on stream. That was pretty fun I'll probably do more of that tomorrow Uh, yeah, then forge efap all kinds of stuff. It's content galore Come check it out. All right Um, what about you mark? Hi, I'm i'm mark the cyborg. I might sometimes make videos on youtube But I kind of do the the thing you guys do where you spend a lot of time writing redrafting and editing one High effort video instead of like uploading things three times a day But uh, it's much more lucrative, but also, um, I don't know. I have not really my style But um, I also stream on rumble really frequently. It's rumble.com slash mark the cyborg. I played all of calisto protocol It's terrible, but uh, lately I've been playing dead space two and it's much much better and uh Man playing dead space two with a mouse and keyboard versus playing calisto protocol with the controller You can't even tell you that's the night and day That's the thing man. This this this sort of uh chunk of a year it was like scorn calisto protocol and ragnarok Well, we didn't we didn't roll the bat on all of them So I like after after we played scorn we just went on this month-long god of war pinch Yeah, you could say the two games had different effects. Oh, yeah a little bit a little bit That's what I did a couple years ago though. I wanted the um videos on my home page on youtube Is it one I made for geeks and gamers? That's like a history of the whole god of war franchise So about two years ago. I played every single one and it was quite the ride Well What about you guys rags and frongo Nothing to really report yet. Um, I'm I got some things in the works But I'm not decided on what I'm gonna put my effort into at the moment for the most part So just uh stand by I suppose Yeah, I'm just working And that's exactly what I'm doing. Well, you guys are about to see something I'm working on Don't you worry you'll see something And then yeah, uh, so I guess it could be considering everything that's happened that We'll do the e-fap on the the 10th. Yeah And then the 17th you'll get a pre-recorded one And then hopefully by the time we hit christmas, um, we will have recorded a christmas special in some way shape or form As in it'll be something of a topic. I'm not 100% sure yet And that'll come out there Yeah, there's a couple Could be and or could be avatar who knows and then uh Guess that'll be the next one would be new year's eve Yeah, that's when I'm There oh, yeah, you'll be oh, it's that might not be live either. Uh, it may be maybe not no idea You may not be getting a live e-fap for a while after saturday Look, all right. You've just received How many hours like nearly 20 hours of dedicated card before riding the rock cover very likely have another eight on saturday Yeah, wow. Yeah, it's probably gonna be long when i'm over. That's probably gonna be a lot of gaming streams. I reckon so yeah Me and mel got some gamer stuff to do. Yeah gamers um But yes, all right. Well in that case there you go. Thank you all very much for joining us and for the Very kind donations and for the back and forth the insights. I'll be curious to check out Whatever one thinks of the game's story in the old comment section Like I said, the ragnarok is almost over Saturday Oh my god That's incredible There's more also I saw it as well, but it should be mentioned plushies have made the way out into the world. I've seen the pictures of And the new little muesli sitting around on desks and bookshelves and everything. It's great I hope everybody is happy with them who's got them It's really cool to see those having made their way out into the world and again appreciate it Yeah, they uh, I've been trying to See if I can look look look at them. Oh my god There's all all of them. Well, enough the freaks have delivered for me, but the uh, the molars haven't I haven't got mine yet. So I got mine. Yeah, I got them My fringy arrived during an episode of real bbc and I gave it to actually And you can see all of them He actually saved behind me He saved the goo because he warned me about the goo and I went it went to the box and found it in there Right there's the goo right there sitting in and don't lose your goo kids. You need to lose my goo. All right You got to hold on to it Yeah, thank you. There you go. I'm out there in the world Yes, uh, thank you all very much. We are now going to do some human things. I'd imagine well Uh, toodalipip chiahirio biobobobobo. Bye. Bye. Bye everybody. We will see you later Oh god