he next morning she got the uh the the um the court order like she got the um the the notice of like titania's trademark and that she was infringing on it um like when did they get trademarked when what did this happen the other the other thing is okay uh the trademark thing evidence that you used she-hulk in a dating profile or evidence that you identify as she-hulk does not make you using the name in commerce like that that so trade it's a trademark you have to be using it in trade you can't just be like she's not she-hulk law firm she she works for glh and k or whatever right like yeah that's the firm if they had the you know uh if they had like she-hulk's uh superhero division law division or whatever that would be used in trade her name is never used in trade anywhere if she had made t-shirts that said she-hulk on them that would have been fine having it as a dating profile unless she's a whore is not actually using it in trade so the the entire premise of the trademark breaks down so fast how they analyze the question is completely incorrect because you know some guy named bill doesn't have a trademark on bill because he identifies as bill like everybody else can do it plus even if they did on the trademark issue the markets for these two things perfume versus legal advice are so disparate that likely both of them would have fully trademarkable property like yeah yeah like gerber or something like that berber gerber yeah but i mean like there's there's other gerbers out there right that is not saying many different many different gerbers there's a gaggle of gerbers if you're gerbers auto parts you're not selling baby food and everybody would no one would be confused and think oh wow this is the gerber baby food transmission they did try to account for this i think i might be looking too far into this but the whole argument in court is that she's banking on she-hulk's sort of you know uh zeitgeist around her to sell the perfume and then uh they even they even show us her retarded cousin ched he's like i've been selling these for you and then it's like oh no that's not for me that's actually for someone else you fool and it's like oh see so she's benefiting from but like that's such a bad example he has to be like one brain cell to be able to have thought oh this thing that's clearly got nothing to do with my cousin that i will not ask her about i will now purchase in bulk and resell it which by the way isn't that illegal well it uh actually i don't think purchasing in bulk and resellings illegal i would have thought like could titania take issue with that i guess it's what i should say maybe i can't remember how that works it depends on if he's representing as the brand like if he's representing as tight like as a titania official reseller or something it's one thing but if if you just like if you just buy stuff and sell it that's generally okay but um i mean that's what most stores do they don't they don't represent themselves as the maker of the products they just sell them right yeah so if if he's titania's brand or the she-hulk brand that's one thing and and he could be committing a crime it does or violating something it doesn't really matter the the other issue with this though is that there is a cause of action that has nothing to do with trademark that is what's going on here and it's um it's it's a private cause of action it's the right it's the right of publicity uh is what it's called there's a famous case where christian dior uh i think it was a long time ago um used uh what was it jackie kennedy's name like face to sell perfume that she didn't actually authorize and and that's like the landmark case on it and uh it it's it's infringing on someone's right of publicity because you cannot be said to endorse a product that you don't actually endorse they didn't have to go trademark there's already a legal cause of action that has nothing to do with trademark that's what pushes her into action i think by the way who retarded cousin selling without having realized it has nothing to do with her yeah i guess that they established him to be dumb as fuck so they're they're trying to get i think to the the trademark infringement element of likelihood of customer confusion i think maybe like they're like oh yeah someone has to be kind of confused by it but it's like again only if gen walters actually has a trademark on she-hulk and and first to register is not how trademark works either like first to register creates a presumption that you're the first to own it but it's only a presumption and it's absolutely rebuttable and it happens all the time if someone was actually using a name and trade pre-existing they get a common law trademark you don't have to register to own something um because that's insane uh in the united states system if you've created something and are using it you don't have to register your trademark unless you want to enforce it or if someone else tries to register it then you have to contest it and that's what would be going on yeah like fringy with his uh fringy with his bird and moller with his maskman me with a dog and you with you know like ricky the law and all that gun no one could use those and the names and the likenesses and start doing something with it mine's a little different because it's my name and that's another problem with this if she-hulk so you can't trademark your name like because someone else might have the name um so there that's why the right of publicity is a whole different issue than trademark is because you can't get a trademark on just a name um so for me like naming myself rickety law like there could be another there actually a couple other rickety lawyers uh and and they would be able or i think there's only one but uh they would be able to open a rickety law yeah i don't i don't think my cousin's too worried about it but uh i did they uh they could open a rickety law office and i would not be able to sue them because it's just their name right like so it's you don't get to trademark a name you have to create something unique uh and she-hulk is a weird case because it's like an alter ego or another moniker or whatever but she also didn't create it would there be any um sort of moment in the in the court case of like titania how did you come to the name she-hulk because the assumption is she just stole it to steal the the prestige of this superhero versus like if you can prove you came up with it uniquely on your own for your own reasons like that would help but like what reason could she even it's not like she's impossible to come up with her own thing she's like i threw a bunch of words into a fucking sock and like i just grabbed them and that's what i came out with okay it's a blah blah but would that come up would that be a necessary piece of information to all of this i mean it should all of all of this uh if she has some reason to be to have she-hulk i the i guess the other question be is she capitalizing on hulk but she's not using any imagery of she-hulk she's not using any imagery of hulk she's not even using the same color scheme so how can she be said to be like i'm on titania's side on this how can she be said to be infringing on anything that is even presumably owned or representing gen walters like there's there's nothing about it she didn't take a picture of her and slap her on the you know on the logo or on the label or anything uh it's pink all of its pink none of its green and it's all just about female empowerment through makeup or whatever like everything else so it uh the whole thing is a mess um for for trademark or right of publicity purposes it's it's all a mess and i hate it i want it to die slowly well you don't get to because we're we're making sure that you're alive to talk about this show right i will plug in i will i will cycle blood of children into you to keep you alive okay that's how that works right oh good i'm in congress now yay uh so all right yeah so chat comes in chad it is chad isn't it it's like really name chad i've never heard of that name before de ad this is like all right that's a name i guess um yeah and she's like oh you're selling this stuff for her and it's just yeah like i said it's just like you wouldn't ask ahead of time she'd be like oh doesn't how's how's that perfume shit you're doing i decided i would go on my own volition to just start selling it for you without asking you anything about it uh it's weird that there's no imagery to do with you on it though it's not even green it's weird actually it's not even green it's not about the woman that you fought yeah it wasn't i don't watch the news so i wouldn't know oh it's annoying how many people are unaware of that by the way uh you'd think the whole fucking world would be aware of the court case where a woman bursts through a wall and threw a desk at the jury and someone's super hero kaitanya had fans apparently after throwing a table at a court like in a courtroom full of people yeah i love that i love to see that and people that i follow it's very inspiring i feel empowered not only did that happen in the courtroom but also the prosecuting attorney burst into a giant green alien looking monster caught a desk and punched the other superhero that just busted through a wall into the thing or like knocked her unconscious with one blow after she did a slow motion flying sidekick like what the hey it's that kind of world that doesn't even make the news it's annoying because like that's huge this a second hulk that's huge news yes and it's huge news because the first hulk is a literal danger to civilization yeah right like i mean he worked out okay in the avengers but the hulk is always first presented as horrifying to have another one just crop up like the the automatic suspicion should be this this is terrifying you see the they were very proud of themselves for editing the main title sequence a couple of times whenever the joke turns up in the show you know she held by titanium and it's pinky paper whatever it's like ha ha and then they do a just gen attorney at the lower point of getting very proud of themselves for something that they could just it's a typeface right i assume that they could just change and then they're like hi i did a thing i'm talented yeah good for you man you compare it to the simpsons couch gags like these full blown different sequences yeah but that's not fair not like you have more money than the simpsons though that is true they did have access to far more money and they could probably hire whoever they wanted why does she dress like a child i don't know because that's fashion uh what was that thing we were watching where where it was there was a huge fashion component and we had no idea cruella cruella that's the one it's cruella whenever none of us had any clue yeah we had no idea if fashion was good or not we just had to rely on what the show was telling us oh that's fashionable then i guess it's fashionable or oh that's ugly like i got because it all looks like shit to me but i guess some it's just i don't even know i don't even know why does super strong and durable titania have a big bodyguard near her anyway why is she what where does she get her powers like why would you care about that ringy why wouldn't you care mr immortal we literally have an immortal man who just shows up that's true he's just around i guess we don't care anymore no we do not care anymore which is there just everywhere the genie has been let out of the bottle pandora's box has been opened with the the grand failures of will building the smaller little bits like oh there's a guy over there who's super strong is like they're just gonna let that seep it and it's like they those are small they drop in the buckets compared to like fucking what we're dealing with so jan goes in and she's like you're an asshole you've been using my stuff and stop it that's like her whole plan is to just say stop it when i think um jan if you've got two brain cells maybe maybe need more than one sort of figured out like with this enterprise being this enormous saying stop is not going to be anywhere near enough like uh yeah it feels like a lot of money's been invested into this it's kind of crazy that this happened in one day really some of the ball of me i think uh because i watched this i know right but i watched this uh like soon after it came out with uh with fringy and i was like did we just complete the scene and she didn't ask why like that's one of the at least the snug information you can actually get that's gonna be somewhat useful in terms of get it on record now why did you do this and you could even record her if it's vindictive you know yeah you've got well your your friend is there as a witness who could testify to the opposing party statement yeah but i mean even even if not like you didn't who knows you don't know them or whatever they don't want to do it your friend is right there who's going to be with you and could testify in court she said this and it won't be here say because it's opposing party statement against their interests like so yeah you would want to know like why are you doing this well because i'm trying to screw you over oh okay well there we solved that dilemma exactly because like you that's really useful if you plan to take her on in court that's like gonna be perfect but uh even if you don't you at least get a satisfaction of knowing because what if they're i mean you know it's it's like it's like a 0.001 percent chance this is a coincidence but let's rule it out shall we but the other thing right like the the whole other thing about this is i mean she's being so if i'm trying to get the procedural nature of this down she's served i guess with a lawsuit alleging trademark infringement right like titania sues she hulk she hulk sues titania she sues her back she countersues right yeah she countersues all right she countersues but the original suit is for trademark infringement but she hulk isn't using the name in trade like anywhere there's no people just call her she hulk and she can hey hitting in your 30s is a job my name is michelin from now on i'm i'm gonna walk around and be michelin i'll wear a puffy jacket and i'll just be michelin michelin gonna see you buddy it's like i'm not i'm not this thing and the star people i'm not fixing tires i'm not selling anything i'll even walk around be like nice tires my name is michelin you're like oh like nice time i know it's a man named michelin myself i can appreciate high quality tires you can do that all day they can't stop you there's nothing to stop you didn't do anything uh so i'm like the whole lawsuit's frivolous she shouldn't just motion for dismiss uh on on the frivolity of it i'm not using the name in trade or she should have contested it in a completely different way but never mind we can go on well yeah we get uh the b-plot is fucking incredible uh oh wait we're not we're not are we there yet pretty much yeah the all we get is like she hulk is like this doesn't bother me and then she like destroys her own equipment and it's like haha see it does bother her uh uh honey yeah it's very yeah because if you point out the joke if you make a joke very obvious to begin with and then you double down and point it out because they know the people who want she hulk and enjoy it have have no mental capability to just you do not have two brain cells to rub together and make a spark very dumb so they have to really make sure that you understood the joke that has occurred very important no way does this vapid uh paralegal use a surface notebook right she's definitely gonna have a macbook 100 percent oh yeah like apple simplifies it to the point where you just have to do a couple clicks and your job is done but there's no input really from the user especially if you only have to type out a page well girl yeah i think she's just sitting there complaining that she doesn't have more money as well right yeah basically um by the way that the the red on her eyes looks really bad it's a curious choice for um makeup i suppose wearing a for wearing a pink jacket too like not to get too too weird on color coordination but pinks and reds typically you're not mixing those i have no clue i proudly do not understand fashion and run away from it it's a look all right it's a look if um it's a look so like is her look like nuvo burka like she's covering as much of herself as possible with this outfit but she doesn't see that sweet pinky action she doesn't seem like the type of person who would be you know like full body coverage right she wears dresses like well so this is supposed to be a very like a risque real estate agent i can't see that hurdle neck and long sleeves like she's like i have a job to do and i'm good at it i'm gonna meet with clients but you know what we're gonna have some fun yeah and speaking of fun buying a new house doesn't have to be boring we find out pug his name is pug he wants to buy shoes and he needs her help so that's happening uh yeah this whole this whole conversation struck me as bizarre because the man was not being cut down and humiliated at every possible opportunity in fact he seemed to be because he collects shoes he collects iam m3s you don't want iam m3s he he acts stereotype like a stereotypical woman right like he's doing a predominantly female oriented activity of collecting shoes oh no no no collecting shoes is a big thing like basketball shoes or as they call them i think that's the idea he collects like superhero themed shoes is it yeah yeah he keys like shoe collecting isn't just it's not this lady thing there are guys who collect shoes but they're like basketball shoes and limited edition jordan's and things like that well again yeah in this universe they like a necton you could probably believe that he's sneaker heads is what i just thank you chat sneaker heads oh is it is that what i mean i i know this exists there's an auction site that i use to buy like x boxes and legos and stuff like that uh like rare lego sets um that uh that actually started by selling shoes by selling rare shoes like you you know i just one of the things i really appreciate about his character is that this guy's character oh he really does okay here we go he he puts the converse in conversation oh my god i literally just got to knock on my door i'm gonna let you sit with that clap that was the joke police showing up at your door that one hands off you're like gunfire yeah the weapon so the the uh the website is um it's stock x and yeah they got started by selling rare shoes i guess and now they sell rare you know rare other things in this auction thing it's really simple to use but um i god no i i hate i hate how this guy talks i hate him i hate is it redundant to say i don't i don't care i don't want to see any more of this plot line it's like which one do you want to see and i'm like okay touche he he talks like someone who is not i wouldn't expect someone who speaks in this manner to be like in a a lawyer office yeah it seems out in place if this was like a normalish casual guy talking about this it would make a lot of more sense but i suppose it's supposed i do i think this is their attempt to being like eh this guy he's not so he's not so stuffy and boring is he he collects shoes how about that that's character he's gonna be like he's gonna be like a one of those weird like paths for some character to have an acceptable romantic encounter with i'm not even sure you'll be allowed to have a girlfriend i feel like they'll no he's a loser who can't get a girl no that guy honor let me clarify i'm not saying they're going to this is going to be the guy who models the acceptable guy but he will never actually have it because again the show is written by like no it's not a general women this is this is a show written some some some a stereotype maybe that some men like this do exist and this is great to make fun of them even though they're saying that this guy's great right because the the the women writers of the show clearly hold low opinions of themselves and blame the entire world for their low opinions of themselves and that that drips through every single scene that's written here it's the only thing they've done right is portray how terrible they feel that they are for the world and how it's not their fault we had drinker drinkers theory when we were reviewing i think the first three episodes was like this show is like a big old wish fulfillment that these women have been in these circumstances and that this is what they wish they had done in them and um that's my potentially well my response to that was my assumption is they wish they were in the situations at all i don't think they've been able to that seems more likely yeah i don't think they've really lived the lives that got them into the situations that they can then talk about well it's the handsome when the handsome cordial and um the guy comes to you at the bar and compliments your beauty and he sees polite and you you you treat him like he's a creep and a loser and then he just leaves without a second thought but at least the door open for future social interactions politely that's sort of the scene that really cements that these things have never happened to you there's no way you'd actually you might think that you would do that and it might feel really empowering and strong and whatever you want to project here in the show but if that actually happened to you in real life you would be like flustered because you'd be so like oh my gosh you know this guy's talking to me and he's handsome and he's you know polite and he's nice he's complimentary it's the everyone clap thing or you're just like i don't really believe like you go girl you showed him yeah you did the right thing even though you didn't do the right thing you know they often do the wrong thing you did the exact opposite of what you should have done you're bad at behaving so yeah uh obviously we oh yeah go ahead i did i i love also as as we progress with this pug guy or whatever the fact that this is as gen walters puts it one of the most prestigious law firms in the country right this guy is a lawyer at that law firm he is not an idiot he is not unskilled he would have had to work really hard at either at law school or some other firm to get to where he is but they're going to treat him like he's a dumb child the entire show it's like that's fun a fun is that that is fun it's the fun rule this guy would have had to graduate in like the top five percent class of one of the top 10 ivy league schools in the nation to get to where he is no remember this is she helped universe he didn't have to do anything it's like all those men in the board room ah they just got that comment makes no sense right i hate that comment so much she's like oh you guys never had to be hired for a superficial element of your personality that you cannot change you had to do it for with work he's like okay no but i that's the she's complaining about something that's good it's like they had to earn their positions meanwhile i got hired for something that i can't even change about myself that i don't want to be recognized for solely this is like why are you saying that like a criticism this is what it says this is actually our criticism of how you get the job exactly this is the problem you've explained injustice it's such a classic moment that we've highlighted it like almost every time we stream about shihok that he's like people will think i was hired for uh you know diversity essentially right or not not exactly the same but it's applicable you you're hired for a thing that makes you different than a lot of people or everyone even in this circumstance not because of your skill which is really frustrating for her and i'd be like yeah that is frustrating let's fucked up you shouldn't be hired for something like that you should be hired for how good you are at the job so right why are you saying the people will be hired but like she's saying why you know it sucks the people will think that's why it is like that is why it's 100 the reason and you have to either be comfortable with that being the reason or you shouldn't take the job and i agree took the job yeah that's the thing i agree with her it's fucked up that they do in that they using you that's that's that's totally fucked up but then she's like yes but big office okay god was in a fridge full of waters and red bulls yeah and when she's like oh i'm gonna have to buy more clothes now like okay kind of rum there was that moment in episode four right when she's fighting the demon bats and she's talking about the handsome doctor man who never gets a name and it's like oh he's nice and sweet and he's hot not that that shouldn't matter but it does it's like you just can't help yourself really no these these sort of weird like self-owns he's a literal walking 10 like everything we are jumping ahead a little bit but at the end of the episode like he gets chastised and he gets chastised without any reference to his name because he doesn't have one he is the handsome man it's kind of incredible that he's being shit on for being like um superficial when the show and the characters don't even know what his name is or can't give him one which um kind of incredible uh viewers with a strong memory we did encounter this with Wonder Woman 84 we had uh the guy who's credited specifically as handsome man which um i feel like if you went the direction of saying hot woman uh people would be like that it's fucked up you shouldn't just call it oh guys remember our destination where the character is just referred to as Milf how to say a character name on imdb is Milf you used to be able to get away with it yeah i was gonna say like attractive dancer one through six or whatever yeah you know but they were literally just in the background there they didn't have lines in an entire scene and a backstory like they're just that's the only descriptor they could come up with and to these guys like they could have called him pediatric neurosurgeon like if they didn't want to be named call him john whatever fuck it john fine call him nick the guy she bangs there you go guy guy who is banged guy oh well guy guy who gets cradled like a baby yeah that was so emasculating too he deserved it to be honest oh so yeah next up they arrive uh the pulls him the drip broker where he gets the shoes from and uh we're here because they're trying to go through him to find someone who can make a new costume super suit whatever for uh for she held that's a that's a mission they got and like i don't know exactly what they were trying to do here for funnies it's really hard to decipher the jokes in this show sometimes you go um it's like oh you're ready to order and he goes alonzo sent me as like a code and he's like yeah what and then because things are not being understood very well but the guy is clearly speaking english um the paralegal just starts going speaking in mandarin it's like why and then the guy goes is that chinese i don't speak chinese um but he looks asian that's he should know chinese if you look at how it works in movies yeah yeah there's no all languages uh so what's and then she was like oh i feel so awful and then she's like why did okay like that that was just hilarious though that was a hilarious joke is very all of us laughed of the four of us who watched this episode all four of us laughed i think there was still fighting back a laughter right now you can see it on oh yeah you can't hand on mouth he's like can we briefly address the paralegal situation um this is a paralegal at the da's office who gets brought along to be paralegal with her at this new law firm paralegals don't make a fortune she is constantly wearing like you know fashion choices has a diverse shoe line up she's wearing tons and tons of jewelry in every scene and she's driving a brand new car like where did this chick ever get any money at all we talked about this briefly in episode two because the asshole da guy it's like you're a district attorney in los angeles and you had 175 thousand dollars burned that's not like save that's just burned on it on a girlfriend it's funny that you can spend on a whim it's like uh you're a da like you don't get paid that much right like a da in in in uh los angeles la county attorney salary 81 to 150k a year well just scraping by well it's california rice it's probably pretty yeah that's true live in la like $17 Starbucks or whatever unless unless but yeah he wasn't the district attorney like he was in a district attorney yeah he's in the da's office but he's not the da so $75,000 lying around he is a financially prudent man clearly like holy shit well except when it comes to girlfriends he's side businesses yeah he has a side hustle where he sells like antique refurbished model cars it needs to be said this is like fucking puoro levels of trying to figure out what the hell's going on they didn't know he was dating megan the stallion but they did establish that he is very loud about who he's dating meaning they must not have been dating very long yet he spent 175k on it yeah or the other um implausible thing we'd have to accept is he didn't tell anybody which is absurd the way that he's characterized he'd tell everybody he'd tell him as soon as he got out there it couldn't be held a secret because he would be taking photos with her being like look everyone look at the world i am dating megan and then people be like whoa is he and then they'd start sharing it and sharing it and then megan the stallion would be like i ain't dating that guy what the fuck yeah or it could just be as simple as she wasn't in america she was touring somewhere else like in the country you know at the time in which case the case doesn't really play out as it does oh he would have figured it out a lot sooner but who cares so as of uh december 31st assistant district attorney in los angeles is 121k a year on average like okay that's that's a good pay for sure but like for enough no 75 thousand dollars laying around right not not it's not great pay for la like la class so much to live in and then and then yeah but more importantly no matter where you are no matter where you are you're not dumping 200 grand on a girlfriend that you hey presumably only has all right and also when we talk about because i'm pretty sure that the joke they had was that he had a cybertruck it's like now i don't know if those are like things you can buy like the tesla one that's probably not cheap either like where does he get all this money like please how does he just have all this money unless he just made some really good financial decisions he's like a really wise investor that's what we find out his redeeming quality is that he's really good at trading stocks in his spare time whatever spare time he has as a da apparently the cybertrucks only they start at 39 nine oh okay well so that's that's what i thought i thought it was going to be a 200 000 car like that's what i thought i know that you could buy those uh there's higher price coming on it though apparently well i mean we know that that guy is going to be swapping it out every year he's with all this money that he has to blow yeah yeah but no yeah i don't think they actually are available though i don't think they actually are out but uh that's the that's this that he knows where to go that's something though is with asking nick about the past episode so when she's offered the job he just uh like signs a verbal contract in a sense immediately with the only request being she has her own paralegal which the boss doesn't care about at all she signs a waiver about her death not being held responsible for the prison if it was to happen without reading any of the the print as well as a again lawyers tend to be much more um finicky about signing things than most people especially regarding everything just this isn't like a mobile phone tips and conditions this is literally like if you die we cannot be held responsible she's like okay this is like oh oh the fact that she agrees to the job without talking about her salary is yep what kind of work is going to be doing at the law firm because it would have multiple divisions like she doesn't know when you think about her job when she has leverage she has leverage of being she doesn't use it the guy approached you out of nowhere in a bar to offer you a job after you defeated him in court saying who's the best lawyering i've ever seen we could really use just specifically you and she's like sign me up for whatever it is i you know what i don't even oh god it's probably worth it you should give her 10 grand a year and tell her to shut up well i mean he immediately tells it if you don't work right if you don't be she i'll just fire you so it's like may as well just had it be in the scene that she's like i request this this this i want to be taken seriously i above one you just like no be she hulk if not you fire like the job off has gone i guess i figured it would be a funny and mean to have a like sort of haphazardly walking around the officers you know bewildered that's so retarded to that he wouldn't have told him beforehand so that she can actually come to work and facilitate that yeah ready to work rather than wearing clothes that are like several sizes too small exactly but not it's fun for the storyline crown crown target and chances they're setting this up to talk about later for the wage gap and and that may be true who knows if they're going to do the wage gap thing we'll find out that pug makes you know she makes 70 percent of what he does or something stupid but what is like my mother she's in charge white but the the best part about it is though is it will reinforce one of the most predominant arguments about the wage gap is that women are not good at negotiating for themselves that's right and she didn't that's what i mean she she every time she faces a contract she just fucking signs it it's insane and like you have all of the leverage she should have been more concerned with getting green than her employer was ah yeah i still do rags i i i even like i think i cracked a smile i'd have to look in a mirror and tell that was pretty yeah it's funnier than every she-hulk joke well right if it makes you feel worse i'm pretty sure they'd use the getting green jar for like she-hulk marketing have they i think the tagline was i think the tagline that they used was i go green so you get green or something oh god which i was saying like you could have just said i get green so you get green like i feel it's like a i don't even like that let's get green to get earth yeah i don't know well let's get green together might be see what i mean you workshop your ideas you don't just think of the first one and then go yeah that's good enough so this rip broker guy is like oh you want to buy my knockoff avengers merch i see which um yeah although you know looking at it that uh that towel with hulk in the that's pretty cool that's actually like dad hulk yes the mustache in that like that that man thongs that's that's kind of funny like i'll give it that you can do a tv show that's just hulk going on the road you know making movies making songs and fighting around the world with hulk going around the world getting into fights while also indulging in the local cultures with his little sunglasses so you got um this is like the knockoff names you got hulk and uh uh that's all very i don't see what they got for hulk i think it's hulk guy which is why doesn't he just sell them not make like the avengers selling official merchandise at the sq it's weird to me that he's like trying to sell knockoff stuff to avoid getting in trouble but ultimately like you're already doing this in like like black market style so i don't just have you know the name printed property you could probably actually sell a vongers merchandise yeah the way that he's done it this way just do it openly yeah yeah trademark is so specific like sometimes it's even the font and the the spelling but if you spell it differently like and there's no there's no reasonable person looks at an avongers hat and goes oh that's avengers that's the same thing like you would have to conclude that it's something else a parody or or a joke of some sort there's also avengers i see what captain america's been turned into but it's hard to see black widow i can't make that out either but yeah very amusing they've changed the names funny but of course this is not what they're looking for they're trying to find i love that we're gonna make i love that it's a chinese guy who's selling the knockoffs too like that they just they just walk right into the stereotype right wow it's uh they do that a decent amount in the show they they play into the very stereotypes they would probably find to be super offensive very strange with avoiding i suppose but you got um he uh he agrees to like give them a chance to go and visit the the other guy uh being the the big cheese who makes costumes and it's very um i don't know like like it's gonna be difficult for them to do it how are they gonna get in and uh why did they put it on i i said the exact same thing while watching it like why'd they wear it yeah because they asked them to put it on we asked them to buy it i don't think i was gonna put them on did he oh you just asked him to mind it's easier to carry though unless does he have like plastic bags he gives people to but i mean they have back it just makes them look stupid as fuck that's all in it like i guess i thought that was funny well you know it is plastic bags but they're branded does knee i hate that way instead of disney i get it uh so this is one one thing that i think i would have liked if it was in a show that i didn't find annoying as fuck that they stand there for a little bit and then she goes to press the button the intercom and as she gets close to it just says no so that was kind of what you guys think yeah it reminded me of hackers oh i remember that movie old as fuck yeah when they go to visit the two uh weird like the two hacker twins or whatever those the two asian guys and they had the they had the camera and everything yeah i wish i could remember i know those characters what are their names um ones from hackers yeah it's a rinji 90s like razor and blade wasn't it that's what chat's saying razor and blade yeah yeah he's like razor and blade those guys are tools or whatever i love that move that movie's great it's as good as she holka nothing's as good as she hold oh no now long the planet's in the chat there's so much longing in the chat uh so anyway yeah they're just like no i'm not going to meet with you guys you guys are nuts no no no no and then they say uh she says my client is an avenger one of the top tier ones and i was just like wouldn't wouldn't the next step be oh who which and then but no that doesn't happen that's that's amazing if true and the second question i have is who are the avengers right now because they got you see the shit it has iron man hulk for cap hawkeye and black widow that's not been the avengers since 2012 my dude i'm pretty sure the team doesn't even exist anymore like really no same that way well yeah because captain america is dead i'm as dead well he's gone like what is dead he's gone he's gone all right he's right he's dead he's gone okay but iron man is dead yes i'm black with us um black widow is dead and hulk is on this planet doing all guys not this team is literally not existed is hulk even on like adventuring superhero duty right now he's in space he's in space right now and i think hawkeye retired right so really the shirt should have dr strange captain marvel falcon uh carlet witch maybe i'm sure she will be i don't the latest movie she killed many many innocent people oh that's right i didn't i didn't watch that it was really good don't you lie to me i would think it would have been a good joke where for the for the bootleg avenger stuff they showed the justice league on the shirts that would have been funny yeah you could have done something better than what they did you could have done better um but yeah they got a 15 minute consultation out of saying that just the our client is an avenger trust me bro oh yep real careful what your word stranger yeah real careful system you got going here tonight did she change like i know she's wearing clothes over her clothes but did she change the clothes she was wearing and then put the clothes on over because that's a she always changed their clothes no i don't think so i think she was wearing that in the other place it looks like a sort of a bin bag type look right okay so we know okay yeah you're you're right so she was wearing that so we know that time has like a significant amount of time has elapsed since they had their discussion in the office though because that's where she was in the pink jacket so she changed she changes when she leaves every time she leaves come every time you come or go new outfit stem to stern whole new outfit new necklaces jewelry general expression hat maybe this is where we find out that jl k and h are very pissed off because this lawsuits happening when they wouldn't like it to happen because they use she held for a lot of stuff like ah this is what we were talking about before where it's like why the fuck didn't you guys look into this yeah should have trademarked a hilarious joke though it's so funny because oh yeah this leads to uh he's like you're not gonna handle this which is like the first time the show accepts that she's a terrible lawyer but it's from a character that they all think is horrible and wrong so oh well uh but they give it to miss book who we saw for like two seconds in one episode before she's finally becoming a main character now I think yeah Mallory and she's like we're not colleagues we're you know I'm you're my client I'm your lawyer and I was just kind of like I think I get the spirit of what she's saying but it's just funny because like literally like colleagues we're going the same team we've never seen you speak to each other so no yeah I had to remember who this character was like have we met before yeah we briefly did right when we saw her yeah when she was he was the A I told da guy yeah all right so uh yeah the she hooks opening like the thing about this is did Dr. Strange have to do this did Thor like whoo like whoops but she's Dr. Strange is his what's his actual name his name is Stephen Strange he is Dr. Stephen Strange and so as Mallory points out these are their names and Thor's name is Thor which is that's really funny after love and thunder though Thor's name is Thor like no it's not it's a mantle what are you talking about yeah you fucked it up you told us something else you didn't well we know they didn't watch our own stuff because Wong's like yeah we'll go by the book of the destroyed book that we destroyed that doesn't even govern like it's just a magic book that doesn't even exist anymore because don't watch our own stuff but remember it he referenced it in some way regardless of context that's what an MCU is that's what a connection is you knew that from the Fringy you have to watch all the movies to understand these references and that was right and that's where they're at now we if you go book of a shanty and then your friend goes oh that oh it's from a different movie uh we can watch that later if you want and we can get a little context you're all sweet and then you watch it and you're more confused than you're like what the fuck why did you do this are you gonna say this why yeah why would you do this to me i thought we were friends but um i wanted to watch hackers this this this lady attorney her her demeanor like i mean it starts with genwalder and maybe you're like okay well her demeanor is this way because she's like a colleague but also competitive but her her like cold bitch demeanor throughout this and the next client like she is awful like i thought that they were trying to sell us that she hates she hulk yeah i don't think it's that way because at one point she says like i i never would have known a lawyer to humiliate themselves as much as you and i was like oh shit she must really hate how like unprofessional she is maybe but like no i yeah but but then it turns out they just make her into another stereotype that a high powered woman has to be like cold and monstrous and like overly assertive to the point of bitchiness where no one would want to talk to her why would you want this woman representing you at all if she treats you this way hey consider in the deal she gets for her client she's one of the most incredible lawyers that have existed true i would love her to represent me considering what the mr. mortal had done and what the result is this must be the greatest lawyer that have existed she's the one lawyer that gets you more time on on the uh the Thor Doctor Strange stuff right the fact that she's asking that means that she didn't know Doctor Strange's name and she's a lawyer that specializes in superhero cases and he's like the most possibly the most popular and powerful person on planet earth right now that's for sure really weird that she doesn't know anything about her he's gotta be up there and she's literally hanging out with his main colleague wong like she never looked into this she never read up about any of it and her cousin the team he's a part of that saves the world you didn't think maybe you should look into it this is i think we pitched this in a different episode we was like wouldn't it be cool if that was her role behind the scenes up to this point and had been mentioned that he has like a cousin who helps him out with legal issues or at least keeps an eye on him because she thinks what he does is incredible and ethical and that she's trying to look out for him for the legal side of things but no instead we get episode one where she chews him out for not of suffering as much as she does and there's um there's the other there's the other part of this whole like uh thing where she's clearly aware of captain america being steve rogers and having a different name she could have said instead of Doctor Strange and Thor i mean i know it wouldn't be the funny joke that they did but the the point she was trying to make was like a man thing i guess did did captain america have to do this did hawkeye did iron man like because that those are monikers that are not their names they have the these characters available when when she says like you chose two people who actually have that it's like that conversation is not over her making the bad examples you should then go into good examples and then have the counter argument right instead they just move on there's like oh well yeah we did a whole bunch of them exactly yeah uh but then you you wonder how this happens because it i don't know if you know about this nick but like the the conversation surrounding Thor Love and Thunder is that you shouldn't be mad that mighty Thor is called that because Thor is a mantle and and and like the director has come out in favor of that lots of people are talking about it she helped just shout on it right here and it's like they do they know are they did anyone talk to each other oh yeah because because Thor can be anybody right like that's the whole yeah which they definitely is saying like no well not Jennifer the show was saying no that his name is Thor what are you talking about it's like oh yeah you didn't watch the other stories or you didn't talk to each other yeah because if they did she she would have said uh Thor is a mantle Jen didn't you know that anyone can take up well i guess no i guess then again does anybody know about that where are we timeline wise that's actually a great question did uh i'm hasn't happened yet oh springy oh oh timeline oh a ridiculous question about us immunity you think about Natalie Portman's character she became mighty Thor and then what like a handful of hours later died so yes maybe nobody knows again maybe the people spread far and wide well the tale of Thor converting an army of children into Thor is probably gonna spread far and wide maybe i don't know as long as they don't call themselves Thor and mark no they're allowed to because they would be in front they might be well yeah i'm so happy i have not watched that movie it sounds it's terrible it's pretty terrible awful it's the first one that no one defended well except like yeah one or two one one or one or two a few people did that they yeah but i couldn't tell you actually yeah i couldn't tell you um so yeah another thing is that should she not know the answers to her own questions these are like basic trademark questions aren't they yeah well she was remembered she was prepared to take this on she's like i'll do it and then he's like no you won't you're an idiot i'm gonna sign you a different woman and then it's proven that she's an idiot regarding this topic i don't get it yeah they don't know what they're doing i guess not he is a lawyer a lawyer law no it it actually it in in law it it would be very common though for a criminal defense attorney or a criminal prosecutor to not really know anything about trademark law i still i actually think that's really fair but as you just pointed out she was suggesting she take this case herself right like that you're a division do you know every law ever and you're like an expert in every single law i do but you know she doesn't rickita takes even less notes than she hulk does because his mind is like one page you need one posted note you just posted on your hand there just got your notes that's all you need he just he's in court and then he looks at his hand heaviest corpus your honor that will be right actually my note for this whole scene is just again sucks at lawyer being the way to put it okay i gotta speak their language oh man lawyer being a creature of law um so yeah you got uh we got to establish the name was being used professionally beforehand the titania is trying to benefit from the name recognition already established in the marketplace but it's like yeah that's kind of correct at least and then they go just away from that entirely because this is this was the one episode by the way the one i watched i was like this one feels like it got the closest to being accurate to the law and that's still 10 billion miles away from being accurate um yeah because it's not just like using the name professionally isn't it it's in trade specifically in commerce that's that's where you have to have the use of the of the trademark like just identifying yourself as she hulk professionally means nothing like oh you show up to work and you're called she hulk what product are you selling how is a customer going to be confused by this uh so and and sorry go ahead well i actually came to um i don't like anyone in the show but i came close you're actually liking this book more than anyone else just because of the fact that she she looked at it and was like you dress you look like a fucking idiot with the the oversize suit and she's like oh you know oh like the wrongly size but and then she looks over at uh the paralegal it says you obviously spend a lot of time thinking about what you're gonna wear like why don't you help her out and i was just like oof you could interpret that as just being like you're you're you're literally like so vapid that you're you're only concentrated on the like what you know what you're doing what you're wearing you like yeah i'm gonna pass this job to you because it's clearly suitable for your skills that's the impression i got of it i was like i like this lady a little bit like just for the fact that she's ripping into other characters that's all oh yeah anyone who insults the characters is my friend yes but we might be assuming the insult though because i think we might be yes i don't think i don't like you know it's a compliment when i think when you look at how miss book dresses she's she's carry washington from scandal right like that's who she's emulating here she's always in like a sleek high priced high fashion dress i mean look at this thing that dress costs a shitload of money that she's wearing right now um she's she always looks very good and is well put together i think it comes across as an insult because they've set her demeanor up to be so damn abrasive yeah no that's why i took it as an insult because i thought she hated these people yeah yeah but i think she was actually complimenting her which is funny it's like ah you fumbled at the five yard line uh which takes us to the beginning of the court case i guess or in court uh god i think that like the the evidence they provide is just that she was using she hulk for a while and then the uh defense are like well he is on record saying she will never go by the name she hulk uh which i feel like isn't addressing the more important part of which she using it a trade as you as you pointed out as well right completely pointless whether she goes by she hulk or not it only matters and so when i when i mentioned the customer confusion thing there's there's a little bit of a mix up here and this is where the writers clearly don't know the law that for the trademark the the customer confusion has to be a confusion of brand not a confusion of representation of a brand so um you have to be like using michelin and people are thinking oh i'm buying from the michelin tire company that's what i'm doing not that she hulk represents something so like she hulk doesn't sell anything so there's no possible misconception now the endorsement confusion is again that's that right of publicity that that we talked about earlier that's a different thing and it does it does still like that's what they're getting to she's trying to capitalize on the she hulk name as representing her brand but that's not a trademark issue at all and that's what's so frustrating about this i guess an equivalent would be like if you released a bunch of controllers that fit perfectly and assigned well and worked with xbox and you called them cross box but the icon was just exactly the same and then you're like you you keep cross box as a title kind of away from the general marketing and you know like i think there's isn't there a bunch of like third party knockoff controllers that try to come across as though they are um the official ones to hopefully rank a couple more sales into it sort of like that so yeah i always wondered if they skirt a line on that sort of thing or if maybe they have some level of an agreement i don't know but they either you know they they might have to like like nowadays with the way drivers and everything work on these systems they might have to get like pay a license fee for the i don't know the proper term but like an api basically to make the controller work with the system in a really easy way um that might be because i know if you like if you're like making a video game for playstation you have to pay sony a licensing fee to even get the ability to implement your code into the into the playstation os so i i think they probably are paying a licensing fee now because you see those yeah a lot of those controllers out there but but i don't know the the trick is is it sufficiently close enough that you think you're buying from microsoft yeah mostly right and and so the but the difference here would be is if i made if i made a tom brady controller that's not a trademark issue like if i if i'd make a tom brady controller and shape like a football and it has all the xbox buttons like no one thinks i'm buying from tom brady who doesn't sell controllers like or anything he's just a guy right but i am possibly doing a different guy right according to his wife he is he's a god i have a good authority but uh but no i'm doing a different thing where i'm trying to make you think that tom brady is endorsing my controller product that's the separate issue and that's what they're they seem to be like waffling back and forth between these two issues and they're they're completely different um so this is a clip they have from the from the news where she's like whether i like it or not i am forever she hulk and i was like oh they're doing their their season thing where she's getting used to the fact that she is she hulk whether she likes it or not but in court this is supposed to be proof that she's going by it so there you go and then the judge is like i'm inclined to agree with titania unless you can provide me a more often and casual use of the name in like everyday life and i was just thinking to myself like so miss book should have known that right that that was proof they needed because her response to that is oh don't worry we'll have more to present later i was like you should have known it if it were true but it's completely false like it's good yeah that's what i'm saying within the framework that this is something that happens she should have known that because it's so weird for the lawyer to be like oh yes i will have evidence that you need i haven't gotten it yet it's like what yeah again the the standard for trademark is who is the first person using the product name in trade in commerce yeah was if jen walters had sold like five t-shirts that said she hulk on them her case is a million times better than whatever they have presented here like that that would do it if she spray painted she hulk on the side of her car and delivered pizzas it would be better or if again if she had if they had named the division uh the she hulk law division but she wouldn't be the party right she still wouldn't own the name or the trademark in the law firm would and she wouldn't even be in the courtroom unless she was representing the firm yeah it just doesn't function at all it's um it's totally wrong and it's the closest they get to having the law be accurate this is so far away it is but yeah it's a great law show yeah that's what i tuned in for they renamed it attorney at law why why what's the point yeah but i don't understand for you plenty of the characters in universe tell me she's great because when yes like when when she looks at the camera and compliments the writing but yeah which episode was that was it three or four their writers are complimenting themselves and the way that they connect is not meaningfully it's just pug sits down and says man my case it's just being tough it's like ah see look at how great we are connect our stories look at that wait they did that yeah what happened was um yeah pug sits down he's like oh man this asshole da case is nuts and jennifer walters leans in and says connecting the a and b story nice yeah she looks at the camera and i mean it was cringe like what in the you're writing compliments of your own writing into the story and the best part is what you're complimenting is not impressive at all and karak just sat down it's and just said yeah my b plot's going pretty badly and it has a connection to be this is like kylo ren forgiving himself this is the writers writing a character that is out of universe congratulating themselves yeah at least that's a character flaw versus the writers being so far out there we're using it's a character flaw but we're using character in a different sense the writers character for a real world character for versus an universe character first uh yeah it is pretty crazy how many of the fourth wall breaks have just been affirming which is funny because you're it's inevitably going to get compared to dead pool like too bad um a lot of dead pool ones are self-deprecating they're making fun of himself or even like the fact that he's getting his own movie i don't know when the fourth wall breaks are constantly shitting on yourself and then the other four will be affirming yourself yeah there is one that i do prefer yes the equivalent you could have expected is that he talks about the b plot and then dead pool leans in looks the camera and goes like i do not care about the b plot well yeah and even he just like he grabs the camera and walks away to just talk about his own thing yeah i mean this is boring yeah there's never been any like it's only ever been used as like a means of basically narrating but it's never been consistent or in a way that's because yep shows up when they remember they can do it almost yeah like in dead pool it is it is a framing device that is used throughout the whole story it's narrated from beginning to end it's used to connect the past story to like the current story that's running like in the present day whereas here it's just oh yeah right we fourth wall break because that's what she hope does it's like they just remember that that's something that they're supposed to be doing and so infrequently used which is that in the dead pool game you can shoot yourself in the head during cutscenes because of boring exposition that sounds hilarious well yeah the dead pool game had a there was i remember there was one in the game when like dead pool just ends up in this weird glitchy zone and then like he calls the producer of the game and the producer's like yeah you wasted the budget we're out of money like so yeah the game's shit now it doesn't work anymore that sounds like fun was that game well received or um i like it it's it's uh it was made by high moon before they got guarded like all the other activision studios i think they made the transformers games everybody likes it's fun it's mechanically it's not like super in depth um but yeah it's it's a fun dead pool game with a lot of fun like jokes and references it's uh yeah that that one i mean that was leveraging like fourth wall breaks in a video game which um gives you a lot of other options right uh yeah there was one where it was um i think it was i think cable i think it was oh damn it was cable was talking to dead pool and explaining like the situation that they had to deal with and he would just keep going and dead pool was just there so shoulders slumped crying and then yeah i think you press the button if you press the a button you just kill himself to get out of the cutscene it's like yeah it's um it's there's a lot that you can do with fourth wall breaks that are fun and this show has just used it as like basically self-aware that's it you're aware that you're a show and you're aware of like the meta but then there's all of these weirdly like insecure i think that's the impression i get with the self affirming it was that one with the cameos like oh this show has cameos but remember it's my show it's like any man who has to say that he is the king is no true king sort of springs to mind when you have to remind people that this is your show because you are genuinely worried that you get that they're at the point of believing that having characters share what they're up to in an episode is like with praise like whoa yeah because like and um yeah exactly like it's just oh hey we got wong that's gonna that's gonna be cool for us it definitely feels like a lot of these fourth wall breaks were prime for twitter because i remember the one that i saw a lot on twitter um before i'd gotten around to watching the episode was like oh it's a self-contained wedding episode and if you think the timing is inconvenient yeah that's how weddings are it's like ha ha you thought you were gonna see daredevil fucking idiot it's like what it really does seem like a what you relish in like annoying your audience what's that about like right well i think a lot of people will like ah look at that 40 chest they set him up and knocked him down it's like yeah you did you set people up to expect to see a character and then you said he wasn't showing up like yes people aren't gonna respond very well to that now it's not a problem strictly from like a writing standpoint you can do whatever you want i guess um it's just weird the like that this sort of this weird open contempt for like a certain portion of people are gonna be watching your show and you know it you put in the trailer you put him in the trailer for your show it's like the big sticker yeah people are watching because they want to see characters that they already like yeah you'll you're benefiting from that you don't get to shit on those people when you are directly benefiting from hooking them in with the promise of showing them characters they like you get to shit on them because they now are starting to wonder where those characters are you don't get to have it both ways that rick and morty attitude that they eventually developed they're like uh yeah you care about our characters and you're like you told me exactly yeah it uh no it's it's it's fantastic because i know what the idea is everybody hates when this actually happens to them let's do it willingly now for no reason at all because the wedding episode which we'll get to is absolutely useless yeah and they even it's a self-contained wedding episode it is irrelevant to the plot i guess except maybe for this josh guy who might show up later or something but it's it's it's pointless it's proudly pointless probably pointless yeah and i guess somebody would probably say well yeah but they're going for like a little half hour comedy thing and sometimes you have self-contained episodes that go nowhere it's like to acknowledge that it's worthless though that's just interesting there's an interesting strategy you have of like knowing that you were at something that's pointless other than maybe advancing like one plot thread you you're wasting so much time and you don't even have that much time to waste no speaking of wasting time yeah we get she held into basically edna mode's place yeah and so this this whole thing was just fucking odd every line is fucking odd he's like whoa what the fuck and then she's like this is she hulk and he was never heard of you and i'm like really dude never heard of her now you might be thinking didn't you argue that some of the date people wouldn't have been it's like okay so this person is apparently a superhero costume maker but he's going to be pretty into the whole which by the way is quite a significant thing to do but fuck it the world building is fucked anyway so but like you know how does this guy mix in with the avengers do they know him do they get their costumes from him does he how how much business is he getting and who is he you know supplying these costumes for he says at one point do you need bulletproof waterproof like uh munitions do you need built-in weaponry and it's like is what you're doing legal i was under the impression that do those things yeah i thought shield provided all of the uniforms for the avengers like shields done but so are the avengers as i was actually gonna say it's not even worth saying shields everything's done they haven't told us what the state of affairs are anywhere and that's the thing none of these shows are allowed to they've all been told nothing is in concrete you just have to just and so i think this is the same thing as amazon saying they haven't fucked with the source material for for tolkin it's the same thing where you just go like don't fuck with anything in the world they go okay but we will establish some guy who makes superhero suits for everybody it's like well now the question is for who yeah that does fuck with everything exactly because who's he made these four well we'd like to find out he's made him for daredevil which um which is a huge deal uh but oh well i'm sure we'll get a lot of explanation on that uh gary what do you find out this was the replacement for um the guy who's making the suits in the daredevil show well because he got arrested and they don't know what they're doing in terms of like the continuity of that show so yeah we replaced him because he was uh he had stilt man's uh stuff in the back in season one it was we're gonna see it was a lot more care with that this was just yes fashion designer stereotype man but also he's like i said i couldn't stop thinking about edna mode it just felt like yeah he's like the worst version of her um she's like really into the job and stuff like that and well he's into the job too i suppose but like sort of but in a he's been a luke genius who is so i mean this is this is how all businesses actually run when you have enough money or something even though no one could afford the prices of being this exclusive and only working on passion projects paying how does it work is this a fish it seems to be black market stuff like the you you can only find it by going through other agents who are you have to access with codes and knowledge and it's just like so are you officially making costumes for superheroes that are run with the government or like why am i even asking what's the point none of it makes any sense anyway they're not gonna they don't know the writers don't know who are you gonna ask who are you gonna ask the only this part as well was like the fact that he would even turn her down it's like you're joking right you're of course you're gonna build something for her she's she-hulk like what you're gonna make something for her well so i'm wondering what his motivation is is it money or is it to help people save lives or is it both i don't know edna in terms of oh this is a cool challenge like i look forward to the challenge of building this they forgot to characterize that part but what what he has as a setup is infinitely expensive the only person who could afford this setup is the one person who made his own damn costumes tony stark like right wait did tony stark privately fund this is a venture capital investment we're gonna find out later that like that's the way any of these superheroes can come and this guy will just work on their their thing based on his own vision with no need for compensation because he's been unlimitedly compensated at some point but or is it going to be another and i know it's not going to be either of these plots because either of them would kind of make sense but the other one would be that he actually freelances and and deals with superheroes and super villains and a lot of the money he gets comes from the other side he's just a complete mercenary slash visionary for the fashion that'd be kind of cool it would be i don't think they're gonna do it though because it would be kind of cool if it's kind of cool they go to do it's like oh okay uh yeah because he's got a shit ton of employees and maybe you could argue it's like well he has an actual normal sort of public fashion line that's incredibly successful and then he got into the superhero costume making business to sort of run underneath it and it's just like this is a whole ass industry we know nothing about it it's just dropped it's just for the memes really to get her an outfit and uh yeah as you so what you're pointing out for me is like if if he's characterized in such a way that he absolutely would like to the challenge would be interesting and stuff but then all that clues him on to actually wanting to do it is the fact that he needs to build a suit that can match both body types and he's like oh because that seems to be something he's interested in but it's like again how do you not know this yeah and oh it's just I guess let's think about it this way what should be innately more interesting to him building a suit for a regular guy like Matt or building like some crazy suit that's gonna try and like conform basically to the body like two different very different body types the only thing about it is she is explicit that she intends to not do any combat at all and so again why don't know because that's what he asks about and it's like are they trying to tell me that that's something he's invested in that he wants to give suits and power to people who he believes are gonna fight crime and stuff or does he not give a shit I don't know I well he doesn't care right because he takes this on and he just builds her a super suit anyway so yeah I guess yeah where's my super suit sorry kind of okay incredible everyone should watch that instead I assume that um dare devil he I guess he met up and did all of this stuff while he was in costume so his identity wouldn't be compromised this is in LA so like I guess that'll be the first question is what is he doing in LA and if he's in LA did he know this guy when he got here did he stop doing superhero stuff to like wait for the new suit or has he been out doing shit I guess we're gonna find out based on the looks of that preview in episode eight is when we're gonna finally see him I guess we're gonna have to man I'm so worried so he didn't care that they lied to him by the way I just remember oh yeah because she's not an Avenger and he knows that yeah well you know the rules of the game once you offer once you give the 15 minute consultation you have to do it at that point we couldn't just burn them away at the door that'd be a huge trade in order for him to yeah he opened the door it's a done deal the door to his secret like Louis Vuitton decorated design room I guess these sets are not connected no okay no this this is in the back uh remember like this thing is in the back room of a coffee shop and he's got these giant windows as if he's on like the penthouse of a building I have no clue if this is supposed to be connected to that or not I have no clue real fake windows real fake windows I like I said they could have gone to a different building for all we know they there's no logistics here what is the armor there have a dad gut oh yeah it's got a little little dad pouch on the front red guardian so he could lose in style wow it has a six pack above a one pack that's weird someone made that someone did make that what was told to make for a new stunning and brave pregnant man to wear but only when he's like look how high the nipples are that's the worst designer ever like what what do you mean it's supposed to be it's new it's said style it's gonna look great on whoever this is the nipples are in the middle of the packs that is so strange I don't know my god you're right it drains they look like sonic eyeballs I don't know what they do it it doesn't look as good as Joel Schumacher's batman okay what I'll say he knew where to put those no is that the he knew exactly the first one was yeah the second one was George Clooney so uh I know the guy who now has the batman costume I just I was just at his house the other day and he has it on display it's really cool the one for Val Kilmer or the one for the Val Kilmer one and the uh we want the George Clooney nipoli one no the Val Kilmer one has nipples too hey there you go yay dude that's it people used to fucking hate him for that alone they were like you put nipples on the bat so you ruined everything and it's just like yeah I bet you wish you had him back now yep a bit of what we're getting now so uh I actually quite like something that happens in this scene they realize that uh as part of the witnesses they're bringing back the the dates oh wait I don't even think they've done that yet this guy is just a client for this thing but he's one of the people she dated and she's like oh fuck there he is and again like we mentioned before she says oh no it's the creepy disgusting monstrous guy I went on a date with which I think is absurd but fine whatever Jen Walters she says your frame of reference is let's call it a skew um and so he walks up to her and she's really nice to him and he says we should reconnect sometime and she says yep we should and I was about to I'm pretty sure it was while we were watching it uh I was like that's just she's so full of shit and then her friend says wow you rolled over so quickly and I was just like hey the show is shitting on it for being spineless as fuck that's nice she was but is there okay god don't get my hopes up is there some potential interesting backstory here this is a guy asking about cutting her skin with vibranium right yeah he's a specimen okay he said oh he's probably evil he probably he's gonna be a part of the blood sample he's gotta be he's the one of the big he's the biggest client to the firm superhero division right like so this guy so that makes his contact has his uh or his comments actually makes sense and he's not gross like he's he's he's a professional curiosity yeah he's going to capture daredevil and she has to save daredevil oh I know it's just dammit I just figured it out and I hate it even more ah the vampire is going to drink her blood he's the he's the guy at the end of the sixth episode like it's that's the guy who makes the surrender yeah I was saying he's probably connected to the blood sample people yeah yeah he's in charge of intelligent well I guess we're jumping the gun in charge of it in the comics is the leader right now we know that he's going to be in the new captain american movie so yeah and so he's he's gonna have a vibranium syringe that he made that's that he was laying in the case at the end of the last episode yeah that's why he he was hoping to just get that little bit of information confirmed because those scenes those scenes seem really out of place by the way in this show they did indeed it's because they probably had commissioned like an actual plot line and then they were like fill the rest up with stuff and then one of the writers was like what about a wedding episode they're like yoyo and then put that syringe thing at the end of it I guess fuck it remind people that there's still this brought up because you can't escape the MCU and like broader stories that they're telling you'll never leave well no you can't escape will CGI your corpse it is totally out of place you got like your little fun lawyer show so you say and then you've got this like oh this is quite dramatic this side of the needles and laboratories and evil scientists yeah it was weird what is she gonna do with her tampons uh like like men straight live like uh put them in that put them in that device that vaporizes blood whatever no she doesn't have that she'll have to go make make visits every year and she is fertile 24 seven god they could have made this a real good tragedy where she tries to start a family and she gets pregnant but like the time traveler's wife or was it time traveler's wife or like yeah the babies keep dying constantly because they all get the gamma radiation it's a one in a million shot it's like this really depressing story about loss and miscarriage like that should be the she-hunk story they're never ever ever they're doing fun things Nick fun things yeah dead babies aren't fun no they're a little fun but they're not that fun put me in marvel i'll make us sad make a sad dramatic story about reality and loss and struggle the dead hulk babies yay you know why that happened by the way that that that chance encounter because i just remember this is this is someone i thought was fucking dumb as fuck that chance encounter reminds her oh shit i used the she-hulk name when i was dating people that can be used as evidence of me using it publicly as part of my identity yeah that's a thing i did don't you remember this how hilarious is it that they walked into yet another stereotype that a woman is not defined by herself but she's defining herself by the men that she has dated like her own self-identity is wrapped up in these men that she's dating like or that she kind of failed to date i guess or whatever but like that's how she is defined by the men in her life that's fucking funny to me uh maybe they did that on purpose i don't know but i'm still laughing about it there's a line in the next episode i wouldn't mind uh highlight when we get there in terms of like some of the makes me think about the fucking weird-ass perspective on all of this stuff um the writers i mean the writers aren't exactly um telling themselves well with this show uh stuff that they have happened you're like oh that's what you think about that okay um so anyway she remembers that and then the like the case is being made again now but with the context of all that and the lawyer says uh she didn't use her name to sell a product to exploit like they're accusing obviously titania of doing that and i was like i'm the she uses she-hulk to sell jan walters yeah you were exploiting people you were being dishonest that's something that they established happened that's also the literal requirement for trademark and that wording alone should have been grounds for dismissal of the case because if she didn't use the name to exploit to sell a product then she never used it in trade yep and she has no claim i hate it i hate it i don't know man that seems it's just like look it's just that things work differently in this world okay and and that's great it's cute it's fun it's very cute it is it's so fun why did they i'm just looking at this shot you can't integrate her into this the scene you just can't like i know that she's not there yeah why did you do this you didn't have the money you just didn't have the money all the time to do it um so yeah then they they they roll up all the guys she dated to have like a statement each um what one of them says she-hulk and i had an intense connection she battled demons uh which is the the the handsome doctor man i think um and i thought it was really funny that he says that in court under oath and nobody cares he battled demons i just feel like even the cross would be like i'm sorry did you just say demon like are we really accepting like drug addiction or something he's clearly lying like you battled medical demons together and you connected over that or like what and the judge is like no no i'll accept that he's referring obviously to um multi-dimensional creatures otherworldly extra-dimensional yeah creatures of ill-repute shall we say it's all acceptable and totally fine borns goat ears uh pitchforks potentially a you know preponderance of making deals and so he says the thing he says i wouldn't date jen she's not my type but she-hulk is incredible like ooh so that's just confirmation then that by hiding the fact that she's jen she managed to date someone that would otherwise not have been interested or wouldn't have given consent which is uh a thing that this show definitely doesn't want to get into and just reminds me of wonder woman where the writer had no idea do you know about that uh nick what happened with wonder woman no no i didn't i didn't watch that looked so bad so what happens is in that in that show is that all you need to know about film sorry is that wonder woman's boyfriend that she loved very very much dies in uh in will war it's will war one right correct and of course she's like immortal whatever so she's up in the is it another 90s 80s the 80s yeah it's called 1984 sorry i'm uh i've had a bit to drink i'm i'm now losing my coherency but i'm still gonna be able to do this so uh yeah this this thing gets added into the story where it's like a little wish device but it's uh was it fair to call it a monkey's poor type situation it was a monkey's poor yeah it was a monkey yeah kind of like the way it would work is you you hold it yeah you ask it for a wish you get one right one per person yeah i think so so you do that and then uh it'll give you what you want obviously but there's a drawback and so she wishes for her hubby to come back to life now he does only and this isn't actually the fucking monkey's poor effect you guys remember this the monkey's poor effect is it was drawing a power from him we were confused yes that film is fucking bad but he comes back he's in the he's taken control of the body of another man just some average man he's referred to as handsome man he took control of that body that guy is on let's refer to it i suppose a sleep mode or we don't actually know if he's actually active uh we assume oh god so yeah now pretty haunting no no idea why they did this you could have had him phase into existence you know and be like oh there he is but no i think they thought they had to justify how he would be here and so they transplant his consciousness into the body of another man at random seemingly bless him that's weird she uh she beats up with it but when she finds out that that's who he is uh she she gives him a little kiss and already i think fringy you were like you had you got your no paper out and you started hitting them you like stop that don't be doing that that body is not yours to use that way that's fucked up uh and then and then they fuck um the internet was not happy with this this was uh this was a really awkward choice uh patty jenkins the director she quote tweeted someone tweeting out that it's okay because it's commentary on films like big where you have these freaky friday situations and sometimes this stuff happens and it's it's not it's not it's i don't even remember the reality is that they they just they didn't realize what they've done that's that's the reality the monkey the monkey paw on that is that nothing happens no no the monkey and no there's no this is what it should be right right nothing happens and then wonder woman goes to investigate and she exumes the grave of her husband and when they open the casket it has been shredded on the inside because he was brought back to life but he was still buried way to do it yeah and he dies story and so she has to deal with the fact that she not only brought him back but she put him through this intensely horrifying experience where he died miserable and alone again only for her fault that would be that's that's either god that would be crazy and intense to have resurrected what you consider like a friend and you fail to recognize part of the magic might just bring them back in their coffin that would be an intense storyline yeah that would be but instead they went with what they didn't and it's just baffling it's really really baffling yes nobody said nobody picked up nobody know the main reason i wanted to bring this up is the patty jagas herself knows she fucked up big time and she was trying to find tweets that defend it like a working director and he comes back alive and oh wait wait what died i guess my internet died there okay oh i was talking about the monkey's paw oh hi you were you were but okay uh yeah you go ahead rags the internet's come back for you go for it where i i said it was like the monkey's paw and did i they were where did it cut off i suppose i've got nothing oh we talked about the monkey's paw thing significantly afterwards it was a great topic starter oh okay well then i guess uh my input isn't needed it's all covered all taken care of it's always supposed yeah holy shit the chat just pointed out what's wrong with his arm look at that shoulder that's the chair isn't it oh that's yeah oh yeah that's the chair that's funny it looks like his arm is detached if you see it that part of it's oh my god it's like a mannequin someone took an axe right to his shoulder this is my beaten arm i see what you mean when you look at it and you imagine that chair is being part of it it's like what happened buddy what happens you're on he's got big arms so it kind of made sense for his eyes like was there some horrific CGI fail that happened here what if yeah if ever you see something weird it's like you guys fucked up on cg again didn't you they're like hey we're trying to start blaming it for all the writing problems too he's out of the CGI guys they just get all the blame for everything wrong on the show but you know okay so here's here's why i give it credibility also when i saw this guy in episode three or four what no four i guess that he was in uh originally i was i was like his his body looks almost fake like something about the shirt he's wearing it looks like a little bit too big for his head he looks a little too thick and i wondered if they had like beefed him up like i legitimately was curious if they had bulked this guy up beyond because he he doesn't look quite right to me a lot of people in chat were saying is is the sort of jacket they padded and stuff it's like it does kind of look like it yeah but the chair does come out the side there like that's also the chair is the background part i'm ignoring that yeah i'm just like we we can see his chest sort of and then like the shit's already coming above that quite a bit and then the like this i don't know yeah maybe maybe um because it would make i think i just saw what you're saying like right trying to make him look a lot more um idealistic for the kind of guy that girls want to date or whatever maybe they bulked him up a bit more to be like hey look he's perfect and out of 10 11 out of 10 you might even it's weird you think you'd be able to find buff guys in california that you could use for your movie show well he just he ticked all the other boxes right all right but that one was a good enough tick anyway put a big suit on him that would be funny if they generated the perfect man but like didn't realize the irony that they couldn't find him so they had to cg cg the perfect man it just goes to show the perfect guy isn't out there we looked all over we looked everywhere we went to every and yeah so the court with with their proof their evidence whatever they say the court is in favor jan and titania will have to cease use of she hulk as a name and recall all products which man would never happen what a blow to her uh products to yeah you invested a lot into this already the recalling all the products would not happen like what what part of this would be like oh you have to recall the products that you sent out they're not a danger to the public they were just sold with a false pretense presumably like we're calling them would be insane most people are just most people won't give them back right look like fuck it i don't care if it's gonna if they find it like we're recalling them why because you would they they have a name that legally should not allow to use like i don't care you were deceived in fact you were deceived you not only wouldn't give them back you'd be probably wise not to because they become collectors out there they become valuable they're a thing that's illegal now is she supposed to just be totty westbrook but with like super strength is that is that the idea behind her character i don't know is totty westbrook uh she was like she's like a beauty tuber that then like evolved into selling makeup and you know beauty products of her own she was she was uh i only know about her because she sued um a youtube a drama youtuber who talked about you know like talked about her all the time but yeah never mind like i was just thinking like titania lawsuit totty like those aren't too far apart i don't know one of the things that i thought was interesting as she leaves is that um scary toxic masculinity man the one who is like i love being strong where's my food like that that was the date they had and uh and he was like she held strong she was kind of she was kind of full of herself in terms of how strong to what he's like he's like a joke of a person you know like they don't know how to write people they just make up these like crazy people but he's like hey titania we should we should hang out that she goes fine you can buy me things guys and it's like fuck me they don't know how to do anything like it's really funny though it's so funny it's so hilarious it makes it all worth it it's like uh maybe it is the best thing they can do though because by comparison jen looks like she's more intelligent you know it's like okay in a world full of like in idiocracy the the most average intelligent man can come across as like a genius right because you know they cut right back to jan being like see look at her they're lawyer jan dominating winning the case and being like uh those two those crazy fools um and yeah so this is where um um mallory is like by the way you can do better you deserve better which is really interesting considering the nature of the relationship she had with the the guy who gave the best testimony in the one that she lied to essentially by omission you know right the which is and also that guy being like just essentially really good and very politely saying it's just not you know this part how could you've done any better you're lucky that he's not going further in a different direction let's put it that way and he did help you out immensely he did yeah he wanted the case with how this was presented essentially yeah the other thing is how was this at all humiliating like the they made a big point on how she was willing to like humiliate herself in front of the court to do this her level of humiliation was literally she brought she brought four guys into court to testify that they all you know went on a date with she hulk and they none of them said anything bad about her at all like it might have been the element of what was on her dating profile or just the fact that you're with with like her dating life is the subject of this case which is awkward i guess um but i mean like i think most people would be happy like okay we're gonna take your last four x's and put them on the witness stand and all they do is get up and say yeah you know what we went on a date and uh she was nice but you know didn't really work out like oh my god that's what i mean wow if you work out these four random guys what a loser he couldn't have been better on the it is treated as though he's an asshole i don't understand why do you write it this way he's so stupid um and then we get a absolute banger of a line when they go to the the bar they got their drinks they she says uh a thing i was mentioning which was like i don't know any lawyer who'd humiliate herself like that and then she's like yeah well it's why hollaway gives me the medium bucks and then her response to that is hollaway would never have to prove his value to a parade of underwhelming men yeah because he's not gay that would be one reason but i was just like underwhelming men what the fuck are you doing what was wrong with that guy nice guys they all seem fine there's definitely a woman out there for each of those guys 11 out of 10s and like consider to mid at best okay fine you guys are just so fucking awesome you deserve 20 out of 10s it's it's true you guys are so great the other reason you ever possibly live up to the worth that you demand it is true you're doomed to die alone and the other reason that hollaway would never have to parade himself or you know these disappointing men is because hollaway clearly thought that she hulk should have taken care of the damn trademark issue from jump and anyone who was thinking about this he's like i can't believe you didn't take care of this already so hollaway wouldn't have this issue in the first place so you're saying they are correct he wouldn't have to deal with this because he's not brain dead excellent he's competent he runs he runs the largest evil law firm on the planet he doesn't email dude it has to be evil they're hiring jen it's like evil is is incompetence times malice i guess i don't know whatever this show this formula no it's it's going to be evil because that'll be their im night shamala twist right like oh you work for the evil law firm now and she's going to have to like i don't know get fired and then get hired by dare that was something dumb who knows what the hell's going to happen i thought that was it for the cringe of that kind then they continue to talk the cringe never ends smaller the scene doesn't end we don't cut away they continue to speak and so she says think about everything she hulk brings to the table and those guys were my best option i was not happy listening to that line i was like i wasn't happy listening to that and then first off that's just a four from an afternoon so fucking calm down exactly um but the follow-up line says you can have superhero superpowers and guys with an internet connection think they can do better oh can you believe that this is like can you believe this is villain talk this is when you go my value is in the fact that i have power and that people so when you say a guy with an internet connection as if that means he's a lower being like just by the value of you didn't mention anything else it's just like fuck this is the opposite of what you should be showing value to why are you suggesting that having power makes you a good person and here uh captain mid bucks remember that one of those guys is a pediatric neural surgeon presumably making seven figures a year while also being jacked out of his mind and doing charity dates with fives understanding and just jesus christ man it's so annoying to listen to because they have no idea what they're writing they think they're right and like yeah fuck those guys for not literally like worshiping us like you bring an affirmation of like feudalism or something it's like suggesting that the world should operate on a social caste system it's it's it's just weird to like talk about like we're the brahman why why why is this the way that we're characterizing and categorizing people it's just so weird again there are shows that make the opposite point like having power doesn't make you a good person fucking power corrupts is usually the message they have everything's back up thanks internet gods for corrupting me completely for no reason welcome to part two incredible hello everybody we made it we survived we pulled through together as a team something teamwork something went wrong or something went right maybe the gods are trying to protect us because yeah that was pretty much the end of the episode and that means we're on to the the wedding episode i didn't i did have one point right as your internet dying oh go for it what was it i don't want to get to uh so it's it's still on the handsome man thing because i am hung up on this i get hung up on handsome men apparently but um this guy is billed originally as this perfect catch so much so that she hulk initiates all of the conduct that follows she invites him home she's like pouncing on him she has to go fight demon she comes back she picks him up and carries him like a baby into the bedroom she's doing everything because he is the catch and then in the next episode after he's like hey you know what it's not gonna work out for us you know i like you but generally isn't my thing she hulk is she's like he thinks he can get with me just because he's got an internet connection it's like i'm not open you set him up as this perfect ideal like this this thing and then now you're like what a loser it just seems like cope doesn't it it's like it is absolutely oh my god please date me no i didn't want to date you anyway fuck you yeah you can't fire me i quit exactly it's god it was it was crazy like it just it made me so angry like unreasonably angry because it's like you you create this and then you have no self-awareness to the fact that you're now shitting on the thing you created as if it was this character's fault that uh that you know i don't know i don't know you made him ideal and then he wasn't ideal enough jesus if you could not get more stereotypically woman i don't know what you do what we're gonna see in episode six i think is basically the payoff to what we're doing here which seems to be yeah sure he's got all these things working for him but what he really needs to do is recognize jennifer walters specifically yes and so when we see the next guy who is basically everything that guy was handsome caring considerate but he also likes jennifer walters identity it's like ah now there we go we'll get there we'll get there well i mean he doesn't know how he's yeah he's not evil he'll be fine but he might die yeah who knows oh i don't know i don't oh true right yeah because we saw the little uh thing at the end that's a hmm he could be a plant yeah maybe he's evil i think that they're not gonna something's gotta happen to where she is going to be single forever they're not going to pair she hulk up with anybody well as we learned single as we learned in future rama the the viewer doesn't want characters to change they want single field my lawyer to remain single female lawyer otherwise it's too scary the possibilities of character changing and having a different life he's going to drive up in a diesel truck and not be environmentally conscious enough and you'll have to let him go oh and i have a hummer an h2 what if he specifically it will be a manual transmission he likes to have control i can understand that i think he won't even have an internet connection ooh then he'll be okay oh god then he'll be the most basic because then he won't be on the intel a luminati site oh god i'm so excited to be a woman hater check out that that's gonna be great but before the last thing we see is just her getting her suits you don't see them and then it's like yeah da da da da da we got daredevil look guys look daredevil ringy was thrilled to see daredevil you know i wasn't thrilled i was it was despair concern angst but you love that i'm pretty sure that they just as well they played they played generic music they didn't even like put in the little piano uh thing like the you know the motif just generic uh look it's data or look it's yellow look at it sitting out there in the open are you excited i'm not excited i'm i'm scared i don't believe that i think the second he turns up on screen you're gonna go whoo yeah fringy loves daredevil he was so excited to see that daredevil would be in she-hulk attorney at law wow look a couple years ago if you told me he was gonna be showing up and interacting with other characters it would have been like man that's exciting now now it's just uh fear dread dread's probably the right one yeah the desire to have never been born all these things just it's sad to me how much better than netflix marvel shows were yeah show just well shows they were better and i don't even i don't even think that a lot of them are even that worthwhile yeah like i like the first first season of luke cage okay and i couldn't get into the second season but that was so much better than this season absolutely like the problems that those shows had compared to what has been pretty standard for these marvel shows now is kind of crazy because like the problems like luke not luke because i think the first half of season one of luke cage is actually pretty strong and i think it falls apart after cottonmouth gets uh taken out of the picture um and i mean it was like with i remember jessica joan season one that's like it's probably could have been a fewer a couple like less episodes and i think it would have been stronger but there were parts of it i liked and even like iron fist which is the bad one it's probably not as bad as these ones about to rewatch it i i would watch iron fist over she hulk every single day i would say she hulk is one of the most unpleasant watches for a tv show that there is it's particularly unpleasant like moon night wasn't unpleasant it was pretty disappointing yeah it was at times frustrating but there were times when i was like kind of engaged and um a lot of the other ones told you had zemo had walker it did have zemo and walker even if it didn't know what it had even if it didn't appreciate what it had it still had it even if it didn't know for fuck's sake because i don't think she hulk is the worst one i don't think that you can beat loki ever but it's been a particularly frustrating experience mokey breaks everything it destroys everything well i was gonna say to do it quickly like nick the show establishes that there is some guy who decided what uh in in this particular way whenever you make a decision or you have the potential to make a decision obviously multi versus bring off he's been clipping all of the ones that he doesn't want so he only keeps the one that he does want meaning if i were to eat the burger or not eat the burger he's like molla ate the burger and so essentially kang is the ultimate puppet master responsible for every single event that happens in the mcu some people have tried with this they're like that still doesn't mean that he's taken away their will because they still make that choice it's like no they make every choice according to this world and that he takes away all the ones he doesn't want he only chooses one so really he's making the choices at that point is yeah so your heroes are being killed your heroes are being murdered because they ate the sand which when they weren't supposed to there's a world where uh yeah there's a world where i man didn't create ultron which was one of his biggest mistakes and he got killed by kang for that oh yeah sorry to let you know yeah they go and melt them with special magical powers if ever they go off script so and by melt it means sends into a dimension where a giant purple fart cloud dragon eats them and this may not make sense to you but it it's it's it totally lines up it's it's totally easy to just oh yeah every event in the mcu from i man one onwards obviously because i mean technically speaking from cap onwards but however early you want to go all of it was kang nobody made their own decisions he made them all okay so there's there's an infinite multitude of universes created with every single potential choice that everyone on earth could ever make at any given time and presumably every being in the universe yeah and this guy is only keeping the one timeline that he wants which means he's also able to keep up with that infinity this motherfucker yeah somehow somehow how's he doing this who knows by the way this being he's killed by a night full-time job none of the time he's killed by a knife yep they stab him he dies and that's the end of kang for now for now he's as durable he's as durable as the dark hold yeah basically why didn't he just pick the reality where the guy didn't have a knife oh because he's got it at home because he's bored that was the end of all of his architecture by that point it was uh that was that was the end of his knowledge of what would happen yeah he'd orchestrated everything up until low key season one episode six that was the culmination of all of his efforts and to be fair the like halfway through that episode even because that's what i fucking kind of like don't get other people who even like that show despite the establishment that everything is meaningless because it was all his fucking choices or rather the meaning gets taken away from the main characters but even in that season everything Loki and Sylvie did in that season is him right up until the end the only choice that gets made in that entire show is Sylvie killing him or not killing him that's the only meaning yeah they don't make choices what was his big payoff like for all the engineered stuff like what did he get to happen that he really wanted to happen did he get like a low job from his high school crush he's like engineered her to get to him honestly because he was a high school teacher i can't even remember what they say the reason for him doing all of that avoiding multiversal war i think is what he wanted to do well but but the thing is is that he left the choice in Sylvie's hands basically we can keep this going again or we can have the multiverse war when he killed me so like he didn't prevent the multiverse war but then he allows a multiverse war to be possible because he got bored allowing himself to die yeah because he was bored of everything it's like oh so what is your deal which will lead to the the two avengers movies and then secret wars there's a good chance that everything will reset but he can't die because presumably when she makes the choice to stab him that and he's not there to snip off that multiverse he's just still a persist in the other multiverse oh wait yeah isn't there a universe where she didn't stab him there has to be it's the nature of multiverse right there's now many many many kangs but the thing is like killing this one kang you've created many kangs i don't know if we we talked about this but like if there's a universe where she simultaneously didn't stab him then that one would now continue his work and snip off all the other universes right that's true oh my god did we seriously not think about that like i can't remember if we talked about that but that just fucks the whole thing over again yeah destroys everything once more that show is like a one out of ten the stupidest fucking nonsense one of the stupidest dumbest most poorly written stories ever conceived and it was written that by the guy multiverse madness which is also one of yeah next just so you know multiverse man this is a movie that i made a six hour video dismantling it's so awful yeah and the right i've heard the right to behind it made loki that's they're both his he's incredibly responsible the amount of damage he's dealt to the marbles cinematic universe is remarkable it's actually kind of impressive see someone said well more the place they were in exists outside of space and time which is bs then how did he know exactly what they were going to do up to the point of stabbing him unless he could control it also beyond time and space no just don't even need to address that he he explicitly said he was he snipped off everything other than right up until she's yeah because he predicted when she tried to stab him she he managed to dodge all of her attacks because he knew everything even though they'll be on space and time he knew exactly what she was going to do and then where yeah and then the backup argument is what does it mean to exist outside of i just can't i can't i give up and remember crisis on infinitisms that was beyond space and time too it was great we all agree that that was garbage but for some reason loki manages because i had better visual effects and better actors oh that sounds real bad yes and that's the point right she hope can never be that bad it's impossible do you remember there was a guy there is actually there is actually a universe where she hulk is worse though that's that's right even you know even infinity has limits come on do you remember the time where a guy put on a metal suit and beat up people i missed it i do remember that guy was cool it was so cool that was neat and it's like now when i think about dead evil it's like yeah remember what dead evil got really tied when he got into a fight with five guys in a hallway now he's gonna team up with she hulk and go on adventures with her yay which by the way i'm pretty sure we still haven't seen there was a guy in the trail of frog man or he looks like a frog man anyway maybe he's gonna is is dead evil gotta be pitted against a frog man in the episode that he shows up in maybe i don't know how to feel about that personally not because i'm a frog or anything but just because you know well i don't know well play into it just makes me wonder what is the pairing of dead evil the the guy who wears the devil horns and the frog you know hmm this fun stuff to be done that uh i hope he fights frog man what what why why would you say that frogs and just critters that they sit there in the water and they they i don't know much what amphibians they he spends most of his time in the water and he occasionally goes on land he's just chill well maybe he's not maybe this frog guy is a jerk in which case dead evil can exact justice upon him annihilate him just for being a jerk well i mean it would be relative justice right there's jerking that's yeah oh like very mild justice yes he is exactly just it's it's pretty mild it's pretty he only tips eight percent so it's kind of really bad yeah assuming that yeah the service warranted that kind of we have the wedding episode wedding episode love wedding episodes he gets an invite to a wedding it's really sparkly and obnoxious and she's like it's someone that you've never heard of before who's a friend of my family i fell out of touch with her but i guess i'll go because i can't say no and then even the paralegals like they know but then you find out the real reason she wants to go it's not because she feels obligated it's because she wants people to look at her and say she's pretty yep you're you're pretty and you're so smart and accomplished you're great at their own wedding i just i do wonder right because if if someone said to me like wait should you hate she hold because she's like perfect i'd be like no no no no no she's definitely not perfect she's got some flaws but i just don't know if the show knows i can't tell i don't think i don't think so vanity is off the charts insane okay so a long time ago a long time ago on my channel um i uh are you guys familiar with a youtube creator coach red pill they used to essentially yeah okay well uh way back when he did a kickstart he wrote a fiction book it was like a internet political thriller memey thing about a kidnapping all right and say crowdfunded it or whatever he sent me a copy and he asked me to review it live with him on the channel so i read it and it like every female character was written exactly how you would expect coach red pill to write a female character they were all like vapid self-centered completely uninteresting they were they were stereotypical like mana sphere depictions of women even the ones you're supposed to like that's exactly how she hulk is being written except it's being written by a bunch of women it's so funny to me like i'm stuck on this this thing like how do you keep writing the most unlikable woman on the planet as like who is shallow and vain and self-centered as if that were the good thing not realizing that that is the criticism that is unfairly placed on women constantly out of curiosity rags springy and i will try and answer this question as well who would you rather hang out with he hulk or galadriel who i thought you're gonna say she hulk or captain marvel um who she hulk or galadriel obviously i am referring to rings of power galadriel oh fuck you um let's see well let's i so i think i would you i think i would hang out with galadriel galadriel it seems like things just in the world just sort of bend to work out for her which could be really excellent you know if you if you hung out with her and you were her friend or whatnot um she is royalty she's very very prestigious in her positions and whatnot um so that probably affords i mean i would just i would just say that i would rather hang out with she hulk because i think that there's a a greater chance that i could have like a real conversation with her i think though i was talking about galadriel but like she seems to be pretty confrontational to absolutely everybody that she interacts with whereas she hulk like then for what is at least there's some people that she is nice to and will talk to i and also because she believes she lives in like the contemporary real world that's probably easier to have a conversation hey she has a tempest in her i would hang out with she hulk um yeah i think i would go with she hulk because i would i'm much more interested to talk to this woman i would want to talk to her about all of the things she said all the value she clearly espouses and her clear insecurities that relate to her and she hulk i'd be i'd be curious to ask her about uh handsome man and all the situation stuff galadriel though good god i i kind of want to leave the room i'd be like please don't kill me like i don't know what's wrong with you but you just you're kind of an insane person oh yeah uh and nick you haven't had the pleasure of uh watching rings of power yet is that correct oh it's great that's what you're gonna have to watch for next week no no no no don't make me do it watch episode five i just realized i haven't i'm not gonna be that torturous to you because uh we got a bunch of other people we're gonna drag through rings of power all right i knew it was gonna be trash like and so what i was hoping was that since it was being done on a premium video service and that's the only place like you're allowed to have significant amounts of nudity that they would just go all out and make it like game of thrones or make it like what fucking tiddy in this thing man and it's like you got elves and orcs and dwarves you could have hairy dwarf tits you could do everything like just just go just go for it man like just a big fuck pile yeah like just everyone it's like spartacus gods of the arena except with weird races and like just like have fun and be irreverent and like you're already crapping all over tolkien so just do it do it and they won't they won't and it makes once i found out that that didn't happen i was so mad i was like okay fine no i'm not even gonna watch it not even gonna watch it oh wangs of power for you well uh i guess we'll just carry on with the i guess we'll just carry on so um again being someone who's not fashion man uh when she pulls out this dress here in a friend like oh my god this most amazing dress ever am i missing something because it's just polka dots but it's quite on blue like i think it's a pretty sun dress thingy i don't know why why is it yeah i was gonna say why is it special because this is the one that was made by the super designer and she's like look at this thing people aren't gonna be able to look away and it's like it looks normal well maybe it goes into what we've talked about before about writing cleverness right you want to write a character that's clever you as a writer have to have some level of cleverness maybe the same thing applies to fashion if you are going to write a dress or display a dress to be extremely fashionable that people look at and they go oh wow it's incredibly fashionable you as a writer have to know what is fashionable to portray but they don't actually know how to do that and i certainly don't fucking know either so they that's why they rely on everybody in the story saying that things are or are not fashionable okay for me it's just it's a sundress and sundresses are wonderful like god's gift to men i love sundries but there's no like high fashion to them it's just a sun dress it fits very nicely it's usually not a ton of material it leaves flowy and light a tasteful amount of skin uh i can see more green this way hey now we're talking about shulk you like this show right oh i love this show this is my favorite show woohoo well it's almost as good as lucky almost not quite not quite it's not up to that high level yeah yet one day well you're you're just in time because we got a whole episode to cover you uh you okay with being on streams for like a decently long amount of time i can't remember if that's a thing you do is uh no i have to get out i only stream for like like tiny periods of time that last five minutes i thought so you too huh i know weak short man hi nick this is the first time we've interacted i believe yeah how's it going man good to meet you the law person and the shadow person meet i know they together they create bad law which is not to be confused with shadow thirsty that's a different thing uh hopefully also not to be confused with shad man oh gosh i'd also there might be who that is i can't believe you know that name i know all the dark parts of the internet now my life is ruined uh so anyway yeah she says um the only thing that sucks about all this is the book we'll have to pick up her work like superhero and stuff and i was just thinking to myself like so the the case with mr immortal is gonna go to mallory instead of g hulk instead of just like delaying the case i would have thought they also well also you just started here and you're getting vacation days that seems unlikely yeah i was actually going to bring that up seems very unlikely that they would do that and if they were to do it wouldn't they aim it so that no cases are running while she goes on it this is how many days is this this rehearsal how many days notice did she get you know uh shortly all like good notice right so she starts she starts her trip on a wednesday uh that's that's revealed when she's talking to josh later uh because she's like over the weekend well wednesday thursday and then i guess the weddings on friday is kind of the weird impression that i get from it and the timeline to me doesn't make any sense but that she does mention wednesday thursday okay the real question is that it's inconvenient timing for like it's a weird day to have a wedding yeah but but the of course the issue is so you have to arrange um this meeting with mr immortal like with his women like these x's or whatever they seem to get so they get mr immortal as a client they arrange a meeting of nine people within a day like there's no way this would all have to be handled yeah you're right yeah by her on in the or by them in this timeline it's that's insane i mean nothing moves this fast in law and then why would you do that why would you make it so that you do it when your primary like lawyer that you want to be seen doing all these cases isn't available when she's only not available for a couple of days like why would you do that yeah she's going to be gone two days three days working days total cases they cannot wait yeah and then of course if she will uh because the thing you just tell her that by the way she wanted an alibi to not go to the wedding at least half of her personality the other half that's vain focused didn't but like if it works i literally can't give you the time off so you can't that would be her perfect excuse not to go i guess but uh she wants to be seen as she hulk okay it's very important i'm so invested in i hope i hope she gets to be appreciated for how hot she is that's that's the story we're telling woohoo that's important oh yeah all right um fun yeah we mentioned before she says uh she looks at camera she says it's a self-contained wedding episode and if you think it's happening at an inconvenient time in the season you're right that's because all weddings happen at inconvenient times but i'm gonna look great so who cares all right well yeah thanks for that insight i suppose it's really just like that's your fourth wool break okay very clever i'm glad you're really taking advantage of this format or element also this would she would have to know that all this is coming because she's a bridesmaid has a bridesmaid's dress where was the bachelorette party where was all of the like the fitting of the dress or the the acquisition of the dress up to this point i mean she's got her superhero dress but she needs the damn pink bridesmaid's dress that's gonna be there too like there's no way this comes out of nowhere well it definitely doesn't come out of nowhere i think it's only meant to be you thought you were gonna see dead evil yeah that sucks doesn't it anyway uh this episode now like that's all it comes across to me as you thought you were again with the timeline jokes on jokes on you looks like she gets her invite and then just goes yeah i know it's i i don't because she would have been told like months in advance yeah she's a bridesmaid there's so much something has to be done oh my god we don't really care about i mean it's like you said all the lego stuff moves white faster than it does in real life you get i guess fighting a week yeah you plan your wedding in like a week and everybody's ready to go and be there yeah so then did you guys did you guys find that uh healer's babyface said that uh that the bride there has a has a nice rack he was admiring that one i've seen the the clips yeah he's uh where he calls he crawls into his own hoodie right uh r i p to as no the the the bride herself there oh yeah she's great for us yeah yeah oh okay was there some content over this one i know what it's up to what maybe just some that's a man baby what that's a dude a bride is a trans woman yep i didn't know that i had no idea i have i know nothing about this i just know the meme from from as trap card played so this this she arrives and she's all look at me i'm awesome i'm amazing oh what a coincidence that's the dress by the way i guess in full i still don't get it in terms of quite so special but sure yeah just a polka dot and plus look at the way that the polka dots are on it it looks like about you know look the bottom third or bottom half they're arranged in a different way actually yeah you're right kind of it just cuts doesn't it by here it seems to cut and that's not good dress design at all what actually is that you see that where i'm trying to put the cursor there's like a hard line well because she's so tall they had to add like an x trillion no but that's not how you do it is it you don't just wow just sit you don't know anything about i know this this was all last minute okay maybe she did no this was made by the super desider maybe you just don't understand this is high fashion oh wait i was going to say maybe it stretches out when she grows but she is grown so that's not true yeah this is it it's i don't know because like when you have the little creases like oh yeah sure the dress would do it but this is flat and it's just that harsh like they stitch two pieces of the same material this is CGI isn't it you could literally change it he's CGI it wrong they CGI to fuck up they CGI to look like shit does it is it just this one image or is it is it do they have like a texture that's supposed to be mapped to some kind of a well let's see if i can find it when she's wearing it as normal gen and i have a feeling it won't be as shit i'm curious if i can get a good shot might be they might have scanned it so i just just don't typically see that level of like a harsh cut in the middle of the dress like for like highly professional stuff is weird so is the back or something i mean okay even from this shot it actually might be uh the the regular dress has that in it if you can see but there can you how can you see well the problem well my problem wasn't necessarily if the CGI was bad it's that you went through all that trouble and effort to get this special guy and he makes this kind of a glaring fuck up on the front of the dress the interesting part was if the CGI team made the imperfection or if they would just replicate it it looks like they would just replicate in it yeah which of course they that is they do in the job properly i guess yeah i mean props to them and they're limited time in their dungeon to do this stuff done through and they have indeed yeah so they had to spend the budget they would put on she hooks you know CGI face onto that dress so yep once she transforms does her hair do the the big comey flume thing over the top is that just naturally how her hair is they've shown it here and there where it just extends out and then becomes that it even changes color right sometimes because yeah it was greenish on a couple of shots i remember but it's just weird it is weird i don't know how any of it works but whatever uh the the the bride is like all upset she's stealing all the attention away and then uh she helps sort of concedes she's like fine i won't do that i'll go back to being normal gen and i was just like why don't you just say it's health related and you can't like the longer you spend that adamant i guess on on doing this but well i guess i guess the argument would be she really does care to not take attention away from the bride it's like okay the whole reason she came here was for attention so well like what she think was gonna happen you know like what do you think you're a big green lady like of course it's gonna b