from our studios in the heart of Silicon Valley, Palo Alto, California, this is a CUBE Conversation. Hello, and welcome to the CUBE studios for another CUBE Conversation. Here where we go in depth with thought leaders driving innovation across the tech industry. I'm Donald Klein. Today I'm here with Tom Steppian, CEO of Primus Power. We're going to talk about the state of clean tech. Tom, welcome to the show. Great to be here. Thank you very much, Tom. Okay, great. Well look, we're going to kind of get into the state of kind of climate change and what's happening and why the kind of solutions that you provide are kind of important. But first, just why don't you just give a quick overview of Primus Power and what you guys do? Sure. So Primus Power is a stationary energy storage company. Our flow batteries work on both sides of the meter, the utility side, the guys who are supplying electricity and the behind the meter side, the folks who use electricity like this studio. And what we do is offer a solution that allows you to optimize your electricity use. You charge the batteries typically when the price of electricity is low and the usage is low and then you pull from those batteries instead of the grid when the grid prices are high and the cost is high. Okay. And that allows our customers to save money on both sides. Excellent. And so just quickly, who's the you? Who's the customers here? Who are the primary folks that you're selling to? Sure, sure. So the utilities are PG&E. The utility that's putting electrons in this studio to smaller utilities. There's several thousand utilities in the U.S. and then worldwide of course, folks who are supplying electricity. Also think about renewable plants, right? Solar plus storage. Wind farms have curtailment problems because wind is gusty, tends to show up at the wrong time sometimes. You can save wind when it's extra and then dispatch it when time is low. So renewables are projects are customers. And then homeowners are customers. I lost power on the way here this morning. If I had a battery in my garage or by the side of my house, I would have been able to keep the lights on and the garage door open. Okay, excellent. Okay, all right. Well, so let's talk about kind of clean tech, right? So everybody's interested in what's happening with climate change. It's kind of front and center in the new cycle these days. California has actually been a real leader in implementing legislation to accelerate the adoption of grid tied storage solutions to make better use of renewable energy, correct? They sure have, absolutely. The California Energy Commission has been a leader in this space, the CPUC that governs the three investor owned utilities in California. Initially, eight, 10 years ago, put out a very important law that Nancy Skinner led relative to using storage and mandating storage in chunks for the three IOUs over the next 10 years. We have exceeded those goals. I think it has helped drive down the cost of storage. It's helped companies like Primus blossom because it's created a market. Other states have jumped on that bandwagon. New York has done that. Oregon has storage goals in many other states also. And it's helped improve the technology for sure. Interesting. So California's really been leading the charge since 2010 in this area? Yes, yes. I've been to China and Europe and Kazakhstan and all places. Everyone asks me what's happening in California. If you look at Bloomberg numbers about energy storage, California is broken out and often the leader, South Korea did a lot last year, but within the US, California leads for sure and will continue to do so. Interesting. And then they doubled up on those numbers again back in 2016, is that right? They are, they're continuing to up the goals, right? As a state, we now have a carbon-free goal, Wisconsin, just this morning I read, is also moving two carbon-free goals under EnergyMEX. So California has led for sure, but other cities, Chicago has a goal, other states are following, but it all has started here for sure. And just talk about this connection between kind of a carbon-free energy solution and grid-tied battery solutions. What is the connection? How do the batteries help with making states carbon-free? Yeah, for sure. So solar is the least expensive way of generating electricity, full stop, right? What Germany did years ago with feed and tariff and has driven down the cost is actually somewhat similar to what California did and helped drive down the cost and improve the technology. It is now at a point where it is the cheapest form. It is less expensive to put in a new solar plant than to run some of these gas plants. California has no coal, got rid of that years ago, but has a lot of gas. Point in fact, in earlier this year in the Southern California Edison District, the California Public Utility Commission, the guys who rule the utility, said no, no, no, let's not put a couple hundred million dollars to update and refurbish some of these gas plants, stop, instead let's move that toward energy storage. So here's how it's going to look in the future. You have solar, right? And we all know the low, low cost of that, right? Next-era energy using some of their numbers because of the largest, one of the largest developers in the U.S. has the 20-year power purchase agreement price of solar by itself is $25 to $35 a megawatt hour, right, really low. So two and a half cents a kilowatt hour, right? I pay 10, 12, 18 cents per kilowatt hour for electricity at my home, depending on the usage. So wow, right, it's an order of magnitude less than that. And then we all know what solar looks like, right? It's great during the day, but there's two dynamics that are important with solar. One are clouds, right? If you lose power because clouds go over it, that intermittency is a problem. Quick acting batteries can take that out. The second one that everyone knows is the solar parabola tends to fall down when the sun sets. Well, what do you do for the other either 12 or 18 hours of the day? And that's where batteries of a different type come in that gets charged in the middle of the day with that extra electricity from the peak and dissipate it at night. That is the grid of the future, for sure. And you can do this both at a residential level, right? But also at a distribution center replacing an older kind of peak generation plan. Absolutely, right? And if you look at the refurbishments that are happening up and down the coast here in California, that's exactly what they're moving towards. And here in California, we have a utility that got into a bit of trouble because of some of the wildfires and not maintaining some of the lines as we all have read about. Now they are publishing and turning off parts of the grid if there are wildfire concerns. That is going to drive the use of storage at home. And the tariffs are also going to encourage that, right? Where you are encouraged economically to save extra electricity if you have panels on your roof and then use that at night. So it's helping drive that market and it's the right way to go. Interesting. So both in terms of houses that are in sort of forested areas, right? They're going to need this type of local energy storage solution. You've also got replacing the kind of peaker plants with using grid tied storage to be able to push out energy over the grid, right? So these are going to be increasing use cases. So we're going to see battery installations both at plants and also in homes. But all of these battery solutions are all tied to the cloud, correct? They're all tied to the internet. They're effectively functioning as IoT devices at the edge. Maybe talk a little bit about how that works and how what the benefits are from leveraging those types of technologies. So yes, you're absolutely right. They are at all points of the grid and different types of batteries for different functions. And it's fascinating there is a whole class of companies that of course are merging on the battery scene, right? Lithium ion batteries, flow batteries like Primus, et cetera, and other types, really long thermal batteries are going to be coming. But then there's a class of the software companies that are helping manage these assets because you need to smartly charge and discharge, sometimes driven by weather signals. Okay, it's going to be really windy tonight. So I want to enter tonight with an empty battery if I'm on wind farm down in Palm Springs so I can take that extra wind and put it into the battery. Sometimes you're driven by economic signals, right? Because it's a really hot day and the prices of producing electricity are going to be high. So therefore I can take a different type of action. And they will control and those assets, batteries on either side of the grid and make intelligent choices driven by economics to provide the best outcome for again, either the utility or the homeowner, maybe even the neighbors, right? At some point we're going to be able to share electricity. Why can't I use my neighbor's panels if they're out of town for two weeks and they can do the same when I'm out of town. So that will all come here over time. And that's all being enabled by a new class of software companies that are really treating these energy solutions as kind of IoT devices. Absolutely, and it's a great model because it's just another IP address, right? And there are some attributes that it has and you understand the batteries and you can make economic decisions. So think of it like a trading platform, if you will. So those are emerging. There's some really fascinating companies that are young and starting but off to a great start on those tasks. Excellent, okay. So why don't we just talk a little bit about Primus Power itself for a second. So you're in a particular type of energy solution. Why don't you talk about that and how you differ from some of the other providers that are out there? Sure, so there's lots of different types of batteries, right? And one thing to mention is there's no perfect battery. There's always trade-offs on batteries, right? You always of course get less out than you put in because you can't create energy. So there's efficiency differences. We're probably all familiar. The audience here is with lithium-ion batteries with the power wall and sun in and some famous companies, Solar Edge has done a great job putting batteries with solar or just having batteries by themselves. Those batteries today, most of the market is lithium-ion. Lithium-ion is 20, 30 years old, first showed up on the Sony Handycam, very bankable, very proven, but like all batteries have trade-offs. We know the fade that we've experienced with our laptops and our cell phones with those lithium-ion. That's okay, because you can buy a new iPhone every three years, but if you have that on the grid, not so good. You don't want to go out to the substation every three years with a new set of batteries. Well, there's also fire concerns. There were 30, 40 fires in South Korea last year, lithium-ion based, and there was a big one early this year in Surprise, Arizona, bit of a surprise down there. It sends some fire fires to the hospital. So that's some of the strengths and weaknesses of lithium-ion. A flow battery like ours gets its name because we flow a liquid electrolyte. And the typical flow battery has two tanks and you're moving liquid from one tank to the other tank through a reaction chamber that's a stack of electrodes and you plate a metal, we plate zinc, other people plate iron, or you're playing tennis with electrons. This is high school chemistry coming back to haunt all of us. You're changing valence states of vanadium, for example. Primus, if I talk about that difference, is unique in that it only has a single tank because we exploit the density differences in our electrolyte, kind of got a oil and vinegar separation going on. And we don't have a membrane in our stack of electrodes. So it's about half the cost, half of the price compared to other batteries. It's earlier, right? That's our biggest detriment is that we're not quite at bankable scale yet. We'll get there, right? As a young company, you have to earn your stripes and get the UL certification and get enough things out there to do that. But there will be a number of winners in this space. Lithium-ion is really good for certain applications. Flow generally is good for daily discharges. Think solar plus storage, deep discharge, multiple hour, four, five, six, eight hour storage. And then there's going to be week long batteries that might be thermal based. There's a company that's moving, got a nice round of funding last week that's moving blocks of concrete around because you can just like the pumped hydro, you can move water up and down depending on the price of electricity and the use. You can move concrete blocks up and down, spend energy moving it up and then use gravity as your friend when you need electricity from the concrete battery. So in terms of future battery economy, maybe multiple types of solutions for different sort of use cases, right? Whether sort of transportation or handheld, right to residential, to grid tide, et cetera. Absolutely, sure. And it'll be driven by economics and then you can't have a concrete battery in downtown San Francisco, but you could in the middle of Mojave. So it'll be- Understood, understood.  How you, where you guys are at in terms of your own evolution, how much deploy battery pods do you have out there in the world today? Sure, so Primus is at a stage now where we are growing. We're trying to grow at the right rate because you don't want to get too far ahead of yourselves. We have systems up and down California at some projects that have been put at wastewater treatment centers, right? Where we can help optimize the economics of the wastewater treatment centers. They have components that are spending electricity, they have solar, okay, batteries can help improve those economics. We have them at utilities that are testing them to see, okay, how well do these work? Many of these new battery companies are where we are, where our customers are a tribe before you buy or a test before you invest type of a situation. We have a battery in China at one of China's largest wind turbine provider. Wind curtailment is acute in certain provinces in China. In fact, in one of the provinces, Chenhai in Northwest China, they passed a law a couple of years ago that said every new wind turbine has to have a battery with it. So that's created a market there. There's also, we will be coming out with a residential version for some of the same reasons we mentioned about the wildfire concerns. Excellent, and so just give a sense, how big, you talked about your pipeline and how many kind of quoted sales you've got out there. Just give us the audience a rough idea of what kind of pipeline you're looking at. Sure, so as a company we're moving from single digit million type of revenue that we did last year to double digit million that we want to do next year, that translates into roughly 200, 300 of our systems. Our systems, by the way, are, think of a large washing machine, two meters by two meters by two meters. We have in our pipeline of projects that we've quoted more than a billion dollars worth of projects, a lot of solar plus storage, couple of years from now, we won't get them all for sure, but it shows the really strong interest in solutions like ours. Excellent, well exciting stuff, Tom. Thank you for coming into theCUBE and having a conversation with us. Appreciate you taking the time. Tom, thank you very much, it was wonderful. Really appreciate it. Great. Donald Klein, thank you for joining us for another CUBE Conversation. We'll see you next time.


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Dudes and dudettes welcome back to the anxious truth. This is episode number 171 171 welcome back to the show today. We have a special guest in the studio. It's not a studio, but we can pretend It's a studio. It's on zoom We can pretend so with me today is my frequent collaborator and proud to call my friend Dean Stott Who is the originator the creator the head honcho at the DLC anxiety worldwide mental health network platform? Whatever you want to call that and Dean and I been working together now for oh, I don't know What do you say Dean six eight months that we've been doing this? Yeah So if you guys watch the recovery room every Friday on Instagram You've seen me and Dean and Josh Fletcher and Kim Quinlan working together And so I had the pleasure to get to know Dean in this time and we've been talking about podcasting together So here we go episode 171 Dean welcome to the show Thank you so much and what an introduction. How how do I follow on from that story? But yeah It's been a pleasure to get to know you over the last six to eight months I love everything that you're doing true. Um, and it's a pleasure to be on air and just chat all things mental health Yeah, we're just gonna hang out and as I usually do with these We'll just like hang out like we're at a pub somewhere and we're gonna make this up as we go along But I know that you are we talking about this stuff in the recovery room I know that you have been on an anxiety journey, right? So for those of you listening, I cannot imagine that you're listening to this and you do not know Dean I really don't I mean my following is so much smaller compared to yours But so Dean is the founder and creator of dlc anxiety, which is a giant Oh, you have a million people in the community now on instagram. Yeah Coming up to 1.1 million, which is crazy amazing like the bigger it gets the bigger it gets, you know, that's Which is so impressive. I have mad respect for what you built over there But uh, so Dean didn't decide to start dlc anxiety just for the hell of it It wasn't just a random idea. Clearly you have experience with this topic So let's let's take 10 15 minutes and go through that. What what is your story look like? And then we'll talk about like the mental health online thing in the platform. So where do you start? So, um, I went through it was a probably the roughest period of my adult life Where I lost my father He was an inspiration to me.  So I'd be going out into shopping mall shopping centers and just out of nowhere I'd start to have these panic attacks. No, I didn't know what these panic attacks were I thought I was dying at the time because I'd never experienced the this rush of emotions And I literally thought there was something seriously wrong with me And that yeah that went down the spiral of a panic disorder occurring I started to fear going to the shopping centers. I started to fear The anxious response itself um So I had a really good friend at the time in one of my previous jobs Uh, he'd actually been through an anxiety disorder and come out on the other side And he was he was a real pivotal and inspirational and important part to my recovery because Everything that I was telling him that I that I was going through that was so unique to me I thought that if I was telling people how I was feeling that they think I was crazy that That I'm getting all these weird symptoms everything I was telling him He was almost like telling me back and that he'd been through it So it it was like he'd like been in my shoes and he'd come out on the other side So as you know, Daryl, when you're in the middle of an anxiety disorder There's no it looks like there's no light at the end of the tunnel You think you come to the assumption that this is how you're going to be living your life For the for the rest of your life that you're going to be getting up and battling anxiety every day And um, yeah over over a good period of months that that is what my wife was but Yeah, I had this ray of hope from my friend because he'd been through an anxiety disorder come out on the other side So I I went to the doctors. I did all the right things there. They did help because they um, I remember the first time that Um, I went to the doctors. They prescribed me with a library card, which I thought was crazy I was expecting them to I don't know throw some medication at me or Maybe refer me for some CBT therapy, but she literally prescribed me a library card So I went out. I was so annoyed at the time And but I got this book. I ended up reading it. It was how to deal with a panic attack Or how to deal with panic disorder and it that really kick started my recovery the psycho education behind Learning about um, why your heart starts to beat faster? Why your breathing starts to increase? Um, why all these crazy symptoms are happening and knowing that it's just part of the normal anxious response So that really kick started My journey to recovery and over time. Um, I learned. Um, I did some CBT therapy. Um, I did Some self-help CBT really and and decided to do Flooding so putting myself into the center of the shopping centers And just dealing with the anxious response. So it was scary. Um, do you know what I mean? There was times where I felt like I couldn't do it But by putting myself in the situations Over time what happened was the anxiety started to decrease and then I could I could see it was the motivation to carry on I could see that there was light at the end of the tunnel And I always had my friend sparing me on and the hope knowing that well this guy He's he's he's 10 years older than me, but he's no different than me. He's been through an anxiety disorder He's come out the other side. So I come too and that's where that's where dlc was born really I remember being sat on a couch with him Just just chatting as we are now and I was like This feeling that you're giving me this feeling of hope of someone who's been through an anxiety disorder come out the other side And how I can relate to you. I want to be able to do that on a big scale I want to be able to really get that message across And that's where I came up with the idea of dlc anxiety on instagram Because I knew that people would be able to relate to my story just like I did to him And it was a snowball effect. Um, yeah 10 000 followers became 20 came 100 and then We are where we are now the largest anxiety community in the world That's amazing. It's really really quite astounding to see what you've built there I mean that is a great story because I I hear two things there number one a real live in person flesh and blood friend Who would have lived the experience and so many people are relegated to they don't they don't know anybody They actually don't anybody's been through which is always amazing to me considering the number of people who do go through this And so, you know, we have no choice but to go online to try and find people who can show us the way So it was great that you had that that live living breathing person in your life Yeah, and he was uh, he was in Like one of my previous jobs and I think I almost happened by accident I had a panic attack in my workplace And I think he noticed me and reassured me and I opened up to him and he's like, oh well, I've been through this I and then we we ended up speaking about him like I said, I could really relate to Everything that he'd been through and yeah So my advice to anyone is you don't you don't be scared of telling other people how you're feeling We often we have this inner critic that that tells us that when we open up that people are going to dismiss it And obviously some people are dismissive But you have to be able to tell your story and you have to have faith in that other people will Be able to relate and be able to help because that's how the community our community is thrive Isn't it drew by people sharing the stories no matter where they are On the journey to recovery. It's them sharing the stories that gives each other hope And I think it's yeah, it's just a beautiful side of What can be a toxic place social media? So what we've built in the mental health community. I'm really proud of not just myself, but Obviously platforms like you and everyone we work with Yes, I think you know the stories when you say people, you know, the stories help us feel that we're not alone And they can also be stories of inspiration and encouragement and education So, you know, having somebody who was able to say to you, you know When you're putting yourself in the middle of that shopping mall, which is So difficult to do and you're terrified having somebody to say, you know, it's okay. I did it too I know how hard it was. It's going to be okay. Like you can do this is So meaningful in a lot of ways. So that storytelling takes on so many different Faces, you know, just just knowing that you can commiserate knowing that you're not alone And knowing that other people are actually doing the work alongside you and people have done it before you and you could stand on their shoulders So, yeah, yeah, I can relate in a big way for me was that whole like I stood on the people The shoulders of the people came before me and now it's my job to give people shoulders to stand on too. So You know, and I you've done it on a scale way larger than I ever will. So it's very very impressive and I appreciate what you do So how did it get started then? So you come out of the other side of this anxiety disorder, which is always a work in progress We know that it's not like woke up in morning and said okay, I'm recovered now. Let's Yeah, I got to the stage of um, I was able to go So where I was getting panic attacks were where all the places that I loved So I love shopping. I love going out so the shopping mall I love like going out to restaurants and these are all the places that I was getting panic attacks So it was a really having a detrimental Impact on on my day-to-day living. Um, but yeah being able to flood in the situations What I found that really helped with me and I'm sure you can relate Drew is that when I was getting anxious or what the time is It's in a battle, isn't it with you with your anxious thoughts that Going through your mind, but I found that whoever I was with at the time if I told them Hey, listen, I'm feeling anxious at the moment Look feel my palms are sweaty Firstly, they never realize so that they don't know that you're anxious until you tell them So that's the first misconception done because you you're often thinking oh everyone around me must think oh I'm going crazy or something. That's not the case 99.9 at the time people don't even know that you're anxious But secondly it was getting the getting this Anxious thoughts from inside me almost out to someone else and that would reduce the anxiety as well and I can I really really relate to that with with journaling for example Someone's having the all these anxious irrational thoughts and putting it out on paper It's getting it from the mind to somewhere else. But yeah doing that in a social situation really helped for me And so yeah, I got to the stage where I was able to go back shopping I was able to go back to restaurants and That's that's when I really thought well, I'm in this place of yeah Once you've been through an anxiety disorder, you know what anxiety is you're always going to know what anxiety is and so I I I got to the stage where I knew that Anxiety recovery was not never feeling anxiety in it again And I think that's where a lot of people trip up Especially at the start of the recovery they say The the amount of questions that we get asked is how do I stop these irrational thoughts? How do I stop these physical symptoms anxiety recoveries and about how do I stop? How do I think it's How do I accept these thoughts and continue doing what I'm doing? And I got to that stage and that's where I really wanted to Yeah build build the community and Instagram just seemed like the best place Yeah, I was just drawn to Instagram There was there was other communities in in other areas like I saw how Fitness for example the fitness community could bring people together and motivate each other And there wasn't really too many accounts at the time doing it So I saw that there was a gap in the market at the time so Yeah I dived in let me ask you a silly question. So you were saying that's not a silly question I guess but you're saying that you know, you got used to speaking about it openly in your social situation So you're out with somebody you're out with some friends and like hey, I'm really anxious right now Look, my palms are sweaty or I'm shaking or whatever it is You ever get now clearly in a social situation You're generally with people who you already know they're your friends already But did you ever get any pushback on that or people who were less than understanding or didn't want to hear it? No, that's a very very good question And a lot of people that's what the skirt of isn't it especially if they're anxious in work At the skirt to say something to the colleague or the boss because they feel that they'll be dismissed Um, I'm just I am trying to think I remember speaking to someone Um, it was in a workplace and they said yeah, thank you so much for telling me But it's probably best we keep this between ourselves and not tell everyone else Um, really? Yeah, yeah, unfortunately so and that was probably the worst Comment I've had And it really took me back at the time But it just it motivated me to show that there was so much still needed to do um In in the awareness of mental health and and normalizing mental health Because if that situation happened to me in that one place How many times is that happening every single day across across the world?  I want I promise. Yeah It was a really strange thing because they were they were empathetic and it was almost like they they understood And were yeah, they were empathetic empathetic towards the the anxiety, but it was oh, let's just keep it between us Hey, I'm sure there was no it doesn't sound like there was any malicious like oh, that's it I don't will I'll help you hide your horrible secret They probably were helping you and and trying to keep your interest at home. Yeah, I think so but Tell anyone about this. Yeah, yeah, but I think it was probably the wrong thing for them to say though Probably because like you said the most people so I mean, you know So many people in the community really really worried about that like people are going to see that I'm anxious They're gonna I'm going to look foolish and I'm going to embarrass myself. They're going to reject me So that's a hard thing for an anxious person to hear like oh, let's keep the secret. You know, yeah, yeah, especially as you know Especially in a place like a workplace where At the time I was building up to tell the people around me and then when you tell them they say oh, yeah Thank you for opening up and like if you need to move away from your desk or whether just do it No questions asked, but let's just keep this between us So did you have that experience though where where you were able to like okay if you need to you know, take a break It's okay. So was your workplace generally friendly No, they were yeah And it happened over the period of a couple of workplaces and to be honest Like I said, I always tried to be open with them when I when I was dealing with anxiety and Come in come in like knowing what I know now. I was probably doing the wrong things because I was getting anxious um at my desk as well, but then I was Going to a safe place like going to the men's toilet while the anxious response would Come down and as we know drew moving away from the situation Where the perceived danger is that it's just adding fuel to the anxiety So there's no there's no wonder why the anxiety kept coming day in day out Because I was doing the wrong thing at the time I can relate that it's funny how the men's room becomes and and many people relate to this Like the restroom at work becomes like your escape place is where you're gonna go And I was in my early days are the same situation It would like that's where I would escape to and I remember standing there thinking what am I doing in here? Like this is this is thing But uh, okay So then it leads to you know the point where clearly It's a clear picture of why you want to start to share this story And did you start by sharing your story or did you always assume that you would want? To let people other people share their stories because really dlc is you know, clearly your story is underneath it It's the foundation but But it's everybody's story like yeah, no. Yeah, so deals and start being about like this community Was it right away? No, that's a really good question Um, I started it off by telling my story I wanted other people because obviously when you start open account There's not many people who are interacting with your page, but I knew that Even if I get 10 people even if I get 20 people come to me and say hey, I can really resonate with what you're going through Um That I knew that they'd be able to connect and having that connection To to know that they're not alone I knew that there was a chance of this Growing bigger, which is what it did. So yeah, I was true and I was honest to my own personal story Now as as the platform Got got bigger. Um, I realized that I could create a community around this and that's where that's where I That's that's why I chose to have the logo for example I didn't want it to make it about me then I wanted it to be A community of everyone sharing the stories and just me at the Like the creator of the platform the founder or whatever but everyone else to be able to share the stories um In an open place in a place that they're not going to be judged And then as it grew bigger and I started making these connections with mental health professionals I came up with the idea of the interviews On instagram because I thought if we can get this free information to the platform Then this is that this is a real win So then I started making these connections with mental health professionals And and I started to create a community Not only with the people that were going through it, but with the people who Help them people and that's where the the dlc anxiety community is probably is that now That is the forefront of the community getting the psycho education out there Getting the interviews with the mental health professionals and and the infographics of of of the People being able to relate to symptoms people being able to to relate to certain parts of of anxiety But yeah, um, I I'm really proud of where it's got to and and I I'm just continuing to push And continuing to grow it the best I can Well, you're doing a hell of a job clearly. So keep doing what you're doing But let's talk for a second and you and I've had some of these conversations offline, right? These are things that sometimes we ponder together and I always appreciate being able to do that with you the Have you seen the evolution? Nothing nothing stays the same everything changes and that's life and that's fine We should welcome change and evolution and the things are gonna things are going to change over time But the evolution or the change in the tone of that space or how it's used Not necessarily just the dlc platform, but in general Like the difference I see a difference in the way mental health is portrayed and mental health helping is portrayed On on social media in the last five or six years. It became to me It's definitely become a little bit more algorithm driven.  We've discovered that this could be a business And then like everything else I understand it's like people who will say oh man I saw you two when they were playing a little pub and you know in Dublin somewhere and now look at them. They sold out Do you feel like the mental health community is in danger of selling out? That's a really good question And why you say instagram in tolls and not even the mental health community instagram in toll Is dictated by these wonderful algorithms that we're all competing against Now with the mental health industry I can only relate it to myself. So I can only bring it back to dlc. I can't speak for other platforms but speaking for myself There is certain posts for example. I know that Say we call it algorithm friendly Now I know if I put one of these posts out it's going to get a lot of traction and it's going to get a lot of people coming to my community That post I may may may not 100 agree with So it may not resonate with my actual journey But what I know is the the substance behind the the 60 professional interviews that I have on the platform the the The voices in the recovery room like yours Josh And the the mental health books like mine and Josh like yours and like other people I know that by getting that attention to the community that that That whole load of good is in there and so it's almost like you're competing against the algorithm Unfortunately, there is accounts that only do that and then and they may not have the substance within the platform And so I think that they run the risk of obviously, yeah, not being able to provide the resources But yeah, I think with with myself I've managed to get the balance right on that and yeah I'm happy to say that if I'm if I if I know that there's going to be a post That's going to get a lot of people to my community and then the people are going to Be able to resonate with everything the the real good information that's in there Then I'm going to do that That is an incredibly excellent answer And I think in the end people have to realize that like well while you're living we're living as creators inside We're on we're in their house. We're in their stadium. We're in there. We're on their field, right? So instagram slash facebook or for youtuber or whatever platform a tiktok or whatever you want You have to live within the rules that that that you know platform is set out And in the end instagram is going to reward the things that bring attention and it's going to Sort of ignore the things that isn't because attention the money so It is a very difficult balancing act to say well To feed the algorithm because that's what instagram is here for and that's what they want And then I have to balance it with things that might not be so algorithm friendly But I can slip it into the stream, you know Yeah, just to give an example Our recovery room for example, I am super proud of and I know you are to read that what we've created Hasn't been done on on instagram before four people in a panel Connecting with their audiences and sharing our stories. It's a unique once Once in an instagram thing that hasn't been done But when I post our recovery room, it has the worst reach compared to anything yet. It's the best content Now how what you say this this is my this is my community. This is what I do full time So how how would I be able to Sustain what I'm doing by just posting the recovery room. So what do I do? I post I could post a post as algorithm friendly to attract people to come and then they view it So it's a catch 22. You're always playing catch up with the algorithm. It's always changing But hey, it's what keeps us on our toes I know for me and I don't make a secret of it. I often get very frustrated by it I admire the fact that you can I know you get frustrated too, but at times, but you're you're good at handling that I get a little vocal about it sometimes I even know members of our community get frustrated sometimes by what they see and what gets surfaced But this is this is what we've been given So we we have to make the best of it and use it the best way we can in most productive way I and I I can see you do that stuff sometimes Like I you know what's going to bring in the eyeballs And then you could put in the useful content after that and you know what we all learned to play that game He included as much as I realized against it. I know I know enough now what what I should put out before I can relate because these podcast episodes when I post a podcast episode on instagram It gets the lowest engagement. This is a this is a link to 30 to 40 minutes of like Really dense psycho education full of experience and knowledge and recovery information But it doesn't nearly get the attention that some of the other stuff does Which is it is crazy, isn't it? But Why you say it's not our reels and if it was our reels, that's not how we would be writing the reels We have to we have to play by them reels Another thing I'd just like to add is that because it's a community as well And especially if going on to the interview so speaking to mental health advocates or mental health professionals I'm all for for free speech and I'm all for people having their own opinions So I may not just because I have someone on the platform Who I disagree with that that's totally fine Because it's now at a stage where I'm able to give everyone a voice and Where everyone say what worked for them? and and then I I know the users Jeremy and I know the clever people I know that what resonates with them they'll they'll go with and what doesn't that they won't use But giving them as much options as possible. I think is a hell of a thing I I agree with you and I like that you're able to do that. And so I definitely see it the dlc platform. There's something for everybody there like regardless You're you know your approach to this problem is and and I appreciate that you give people that equal time and you're at It's fine. You don't we don't have to agree with everybody So you're in a unique position to be able to do that and you do it very well. So thank you very much Where do we go from here? Like where do you what do you think is going to happen next? You know and we're always on the look like what is instagram going to do now? What's the algorithm look like now? What it's going on over at youtube? Like where do you go from here? Where do you think we're all going to be in another couple of years? Well, it's a very good question especially because this is what we do naturally. This is us um So yeah, it's what keeps us on our toes and it's what keeps me motivated now We know that instagram we're going through some changes at the moment We know that they're going to be focusing on video and reels so short and long term Long-form content. So if the dlc anxiety community, that's perfect Because if that means that our recovery rooms for example gets shown to more people then wow How amazing is that that? Meaning that I can I can really put out the the information that people are craving for And knowing that it's the best information for them. So I for for the dlc anxiety community I'm I am happy about them video changes The infographics that they're not going to go anywhere, but I think over time they may get diluted it's We're going to have to see how we went when they bring it into force What happens, but I know there's a lot of people that are unhappy. So we have artists out there that obviously have created businesses with their artwork on instagram and they're running the narrative now that They're going to be preference in videos and reels then obviously they're going to be anxious and scared about What the future holds for them, but I'm all about adapting Drey So I know that the dlc anxiety community will continue evolve just like it has over the last two and a half years We've got the podcast with your lovely voice on and so the the IGC the lives were Converting them over to podcasts and hopefully start to see that grow over the next six to twelve months Hopefully start to invest more money and time into youtube Um, but yeah, just stay in ahead of the head of the game On instagram and continuing to to play by whatever the the new reels are It's a good answer. And you know, it's if nothing else it keeps it interesting and it's sometimes I know I love the new things. I'm uh, you know, I like to do new stuff. So I think it's going to be kind of exciting and we'll see where it goes Um, there's a lot of good people making a lot of good video content already and it would be it'll be nice to see them Maybe have that Preferenced a little bit so they get some. Yeah, I'm digging it, you know All right, we've bet that we're 30 minutes in I don't like to really make it much more than 30 minutes People have busy lives and they stop by they give us 30 minutes and I try and let them go So dude, I appreciate you coming by to uh spend this half hour. We've been planning it for a while We finally got a chance to do it, which is great Where can people find you? So yeah over on instagram dlc anxiety community. Um the podcast Is dlc live dlc anxiety on youtube facebook We've got facebook as well under the same name And the website, um, you can go and access all the links. So www.dlcanxiety.com We've also got the dlc anxiety library coming out. So which is really really something that Really looking forward to really proud of so off the success of untangle your anxiety We're going to have a whole untangle series on the Of psycho education books and yeah, we're going to have the first anxiety library, which i'm really excited about and But we're going to continue to see that grow and hopefully have Thousands upon thousands of books in our own anxiety library, which would be pretty cool, huh? It'd be great, man. I love the plan. I dig it. Um, so All right guys, if you need to find dean, not that you're going to have a hard time finding him But you can go to the anxious truth.com slash 171 i'll have all these deans links in the show notes there and um, thanks for coming by brother. I appreciate it No problem. Thank you very much dr So as you guys, uh, I'm going to play you out with afterglow by my buddy ben drake Which I do every week you can find ben at ben drake music dot com and dean and I are going to ask you a favor Well, I'm going to ask your favor dean just happens to be on screen with me If you're listening to the podcast on itunes or some platform that lets you rate or review the podcast Then leave a five star review and then take a second and write a review five stars with a review Is the best way for more people to find the podcast and that's why I do this So thanks for coming by we'll see you guys next week and remember this is the way Difference if you're right or wrong Now you're on your way


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Hey, Bolo buddies. Thanks for watching. All right, we have part two From my Bolo buddies Facebook group I invited everyone in the group to share their weirdest Bolo and I got to tell you I just did part one and there were some amazing Bolo's some super weird stuff for sure So this video is super fun I'm gonna tell you where they got it what they paid for it and what it sold for and the awesome part is These items came from the Facebook members They actually sold these items and some of them have a cute little story to go along with it because these items are weird If you are a Bolo buddies member of my YouTube channel, I will shout out your YouTube channel or your eBay store If not, then it will just be a I'll just show the Bolo, okay? And you'll remain anonymous. So don't worry about coming over and sharing and having your name all over YouTube I won't do that only the people that are Bolo buddies members will get that shout out because they have signed up for memberships, okay? So the first one speaking of memberships comes from reselling with honey, and she has an awesome YouTube channel She's newer and she's getting ready to take a break to move But definitely subscribe to her because I have a feeling she's gonna be bringing new content Once she gets moved, but she is a Bolo find you guys check this out Literally like a wire hanger with 10 pumpkins paid $12 at an estate sale because I liked it for myself No mark of markings identified with Google Lens when I realized it was department 56 Collectible I stuck it on the door took a picture and threw it up on eBay, and it sold within a few days It sold for a hundred and forty five dollars you guys so it's basically like a hanging mobile mobile You know kind of like the wind can catch it. I guess if it was outside or not wind chimes, but you know what I'm saying It hangs and moves. Oh My goodness found him at the Goodwill bins If you don't know what the Goodwill bins is that is when people dig through the bins I've got some videos of me doing that if you want to check it out and they buy things by weight This is a pee we Herman found him at the bins had scratches wasn't working paid a dollar and sold him for 35 on eBay so even though it wasn't in perfect condition. It's still sold Okay, so this is another one from reselling with honey, and I'm gonna show it to you because it is most definitely weird Just one she said and I'm like it's usually just one, but some people share more than one. I'm good with it This literally fits in the palm of my hand, and it was broken paid three dollars sold very fast You can tell this brand by the way it is sculpted and oftentimes will be signed But it's hard to read if the piece were not broken. It could go as high as two hundred and fifty some more rare pieces Go for eight hundred to nine hundred, but then other pieces only go for a few dollars So you really need to be to do your research so it looks like this one Is a turkey and it needs repaired and it's still sold for a hundred and twenty five dollars on auction It says vintage Artisania I'm gonna pop it up here. Rhina Rhine Connata Connata. I don't know. I can't say that. Are you kidding me? But anyway, be on the lookout. I wish I had the Like how it's signed so I could show you guys Okay, paid two dollars at a flea market and sold it for 80. It looks like it's an Hermes scarf Um Hermes is pretty much almost always a bolo you guys definitely be on the lookout Let's see What is it? It's a scarf. Okay. Yeah, somebody wrote. What is it? I thought it was a scarf But I guess it could have been something else Okay, found it at the Goodwill for three dollars and ninety nine cents and sold it for a hundred and thirty five You guys okay again with the words. Are you kidding me? Okay, yeah, yo e Kusama, yeah, yo e kusama. We're gonna go with that Sculpture pump soft sculpture pumpkin plush cushion. So it's some sort of like pumpkin looking plush Jello and black which is weird, but it's sold for a hundred and thirty five dollars you guys and the buyer paid shipping So I couldn't help believe how much these cobblers nails went for 661 to an international buyer on auction They were in a box full of tools and supplies a shoemaker would have long ago Bought the whole box at a central Wisconsin estate sale for five dollars So these nails probably didn't even come to a dollar Fire paid shipping shipping and left nice feedback. So yeah, you guys they're old nails Fun little bolo and that was an auction. So pretty cool paid less than two dollars at a yard sale and This might be yours. It looks like maybe you reposted it So I don't know what happened to the first one because this is fine Paid less than two dollars at a yard sale unless you had the picture with no details that could have been But it looks like you added the details. So this is a Polaroid 664 instant pack film sold for a hundred and nine dollars and ninety nine cents plus and the buyer had free shipping right The next item bought a German nativity carousel at a Wisconsin estate sale for $12 But there was one candle cup missing So I took it all apart and sold the parts candle cups wood blades painted nativity figures Hexagon base and these Latisse fence pieces. They went on auction for $33 and the buyer paid shipping So you guys know that when I Get something and it's missing pieces or it's broken. I will part it out I have lots of videos of me parting things out. So that's what she did with this. I've not done that I do have one of these sitting in my garage. So if It's missing parts or doesn't work. I may be doing the same thing. I've been selling the heck out of karate and kung-fu magazines total bread and butter but getting a lot of multi item purchases Got them in a storage unit. So next to nothing in them This one comes from Bolo buddies member jack's treasures. They buy storage units. This is their channel Definitely go and check them out. These are the magazines that they're selling So it looks like three of them sold for a total of $32 and 40 cents and free shipping now the thing is It's unexpected, you know, it's like something that's really easy to list and People will purchase multiples. A lot of times people will put these in big sets also and sell them in lots Okay, the film that expired in 2012 was found for free at a Share-a-thon at my daughter's church sold for 77 to a buyer in China who also paid shipping So it looks like it's expired film and expired film does sell well I'm gonna have to say that it probably still works. I don't know. It's just like old ink It's like they put an expiration date on it, but people still buy it Um Got at the Goodwill for $12 regretfully decided to auction sold for a hundred plus 18 ships still a nice profit Okay, it says.  It was just seal a sealed VHS that was worth wait It's not just a sealed VHS that are worth money box on this was beat or I'm pretty sure I could have gotten more Okay, um, oh They're saying it's not just sealed VHS. I read it wrong So they're saying that even though they're not sealed and they're still a little beat up You can still get money for VHS if you can find the right ones. This one is called murder in Texas front row 1990 VHS Andy Griffith Farrah Fawcett and Sam Elliott it says rare. It looks like it sold for $25 free shipping Paid 50 cents for this and at a southern Alabama rubber rummage sale Just sold it for 2715 going to Puerto Rico buyer paid shipping So this is a four speed wall control. So it's one of those things that you know has like the toggle So 2750 plus shipping Got for $2 at a thrift store eight used Denny's restaurant kids breakfast meal cups You guys that is definitely weird buyer was all in for $28 and I love it Love love love the weird ones for sure Paid $3 at a yard sale and it looks like it is a vintage Sorry, this one's really small Wooden rods and blocks four complete sets. I cannot read the brand. I'll pop it up but this sold for a hundred and five dollars and It looks like they got this one 15 at a yard sale sold in one hour. I listed them too low this one is trapping package duke coil spring kit coyote bobcat fox Otter I I don't know if it's a trap. I don't or some sort type of trap. I know big bear traps or a major bolo. I Don't know what this is But it's a bolo hundred thirty nine ninety nine free shipping. I Paid two dollars at a yard sale. I didn't even know what it was. I Don't know what it is either Kellway soil PhD meter a city tester box manual instructions PH reading so sold for forty dollars plus shipping Okay, this is a big one. Are you ready paid thirty five dollars at a yard sale and it sold for four hundred and fifty dollars plus shipping rare vintage 1550s Martin red ball one cent five cent parking meter. You guys it's part of a parking meter. How cool is that? Okay, I paid two dollars at a yard sale high dow X PDS 18 10s M's pulse massager pain reliever muscle stimulator Never used sold for eighty dollars again. I Mean anything that's I think that's new old stock So always look up the barcodes and stuff Okay One of my first big sales that got me hooked on reselling I only paid a dollar at a yard sale and it sold in less than a week It is an antique under glaze advertised New York and Rhode Island cold cream pot lid you guys sold for a hundred and forty nine dollars and ninety nine cents and It looks like it sold August 30th of 2020. So I don't know if this seller is keeping like a little Like kind of like I do with my videos my what solds like I'm keeping like a little time capsule Maybe they're just doing that with their photos Okay bought for my husband to To have some rain gear when he is on the road got this set at fill a bag rummage sale for fifty cents The whole trash bag was five dollars needless to say when I looked it up It went from my husband's to listed in a hot minute sold in three weeks How many of you guys have actually bought something for yourself looked up comps and been like oh, I don't need it that bad I Do it all the time, but I don't keep a lot for myself Like I'm keeping this necklace. I got this out of a mystery jewelry lot and it's so cute It's like a little elephant. So I am keeping that I'll probably sell it eventually when I get bored with it But anyway this wind rain suit sold for a hundred and fifty dollars plus shipping All right the next one this is definitely interesting I found this in a bag of Christmas ornaments where I wanted a certain one and had to buy the whole bag So basically it was free since the one ornament more than paid for all of them at first I thought it was the the death star, but it wasn't I have no idea what it was Who would want it or why but I listed it and it sold for ten dollars and ninety one cents So is this a big money Bolo? No, is it a bread and butter Bolo? Yes, but what's great is when you list something that you are not sure if it'll sell and then it sells and you're like what? So check it out you guys. It just looks like a handmade like I Don't know it doesn't look fancy at all and it's not but you know nice little bread and butter Bolo there all right Zoo morphs snap together pieces to make animals the box had one in torn off two different sets were in the box I separated and sold as two listings Sold box set for sixty nine dollars and ninety nine cents plus shipping loose set listed for forty nine dollars and ninety nine cents Plus shipping customer paid a hundred and nineteen ninety eight plus shipping Paid five dollars and ninety nine cents for these these are really cool So there's zoom or pets snap together. So they're interchangeable. It says River Dolphin toys 31 piece So it looks like you can snap them apart and make different creatures with them Because of groups like this, I guess we're doing one more. I dug under my sink and found this perfume I purchased it in the early 90s sold for full asking price. So it is and I Was gonna say Air Maze because it looks like that, but it's air amiss and Air Maze is actually spelled like Hermes So this is a r a m is new West central desert nectar skin scent vintage rare and discontinued 288 dollars plus shipping looks like it sat under the sink and never got used so definitely a Bolo so on eBay for perfume if it is vintage it has to be brand new or you can't sell it from what I have been told so I took all of my vintage perfumes down I'm not sure why that the rule has been implemented. It didn't used to be a lot of people like to buy the bottles So definitely make sure you check the eBay rules before you list perfume But again, this one doesn't look to have been used so it's probably new old stock. All right, you guys Thank you for being here. 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Income tax 2022-2023, who qualifies as your dependent definitions and special rules? Let's do some wealth preservation with some tax preparation. Most of this information comes from the Form 1040 Instructions Tax Year 2022. The line instructions you can find at the IRS website, irs.gov, irs.gov. Quick recap of the impact of the dependence on the accounting equations. So if we increase or decrease the number of dependents, it could have an impact on the standard deduction, not always but possibly if, for example, there's a change from a single status to a head of household status, which is due in part to the dependent. There could also then be a change on the tax rates because the progressive tax tables could change if there's a change in status, say from single to head of household, for example. But the main focus we think about when we have a change in dependence is going to be the tax credits and the big one or the one that comes to mind first is going to be either the child tax credit credit or the other dependence credit. Now we talked about the general rules in a prior presentation, F for presentation. And that is we're going to think about if there is someone as a dependent, we want to think about do they qualify as a qualifying child, do they qualify for the child tax credit? And then if they don't qualify for the child tax credit, then we're looking to get that other dependent credit. That's always the thought process that's kind of in our mind. In other words, when we think about the dependence, the dependent that qualifies as a child for the child tax credit is usually going to be giving us the highest tax benefit for a dependent. And if we can't get that, then we're going to see if we can get the other benefit being the other tax credit. That's the general idea. Now we went through that the questionnaire in a prior presentation and this is the tax form with a dependent support accounting instruction by clicking the link below giving you a free month membership to all of the content on our website broken out by category further broken out by course. Each course then organized in a logical reasonable fashion, making it much more easy to find what you need than can be done on a YouTube page. We also include added resources such as Excel practice problems, PDF files and more like QuickBooks backup files when applicable. So once again, click the link below for a free month membership to our website and all the content on it. They're going to be here. This is going to be where they record the dependence. The filing status is noted up top. And then on the page to we have the tax implications, possibly the tax rates changing due to difference in the filing status and the child tax credit or other dependent credit. This is the big line that we typically think of when we're thinking about these credits. Now we went through the questionnaire and usually it's fairly straightforward to determine whether or not someone qualifies for credit and then to figure out what kind of credit do they qualify for the child tax credit or the other dependent credit, but we talked about there could be some gray areas. And for example, if you don't know if someone qualifies as a dependent because there's joint custody situations is a common type of gray area. And in order to address some of those items, then we go into the definitions and special rules. So this is kind of getting into the weeds now where there's kind of an unusual situation area. So definitions and rules. So we've got the adopted child and adopted child is always treated as your own child and adopted child includes a child lawfully placed with you for legal adoption. So anytime that comes up pretty straightforward rule there there you adopted in the basically your child with regards to the taxes related to them. Adoption Taxpayer Identification Number that's an A10, A-T-I-N's. If you have a dependent who was placed with you for legal adoption and you don't know the dependents SSN, that's their Social Security Number, you must get an A10, an A-T-I-N for the dependent from the IRS. You can see form W7A for details. If the dependent isn't a U.S. citizen or resident alien apply for an A10 instead of using form W7. Children divorced or separated parents. So a child will be treated as qualifying child or qualifying relative of the child's non-custodial parent defined layer if all the following conditions apply. So remember when we think about the test as to whether someone qualifies for a dependent. Usually we're thinking about do they live with the taxpayer and whatnot is over a half of the support given to them and so on. But oftentimes you have these joint custody kind of situations which then you oftentimes if when someone's going through a divorce or separation or talking about child custody in a legal setting. They kind of want to define these rules because you don't want of course to have fights over taxes. You'd like to get it laid out so everybody knows what's happening from day one. So there's not like manipulative weird stuff going on later. But that's difficult to do oftentimes and in the process of a separation or custody type of thing they do this joint custody. So once again a child will be treated as a qualifying child or qualifying relative of the child's non-custodial parent defined later if all the following conditions apply. One the parents are divorced legally separated separated under a written separation agreement or lived apart at all times during the last six months of 2022. Whether or not they were whether or not they were married and then to the child received over half of the child's support for 2022 from the parents and the rules on multiple support agreements later don't apply. Support of a child received from a parent's spouse is treated as provided by the parent. Three, the child is in custody of one or both of the parents for more than half of 2022. Four, either of the following applies. A, the custodial parent signs form 8332 or a substantially similar statement that they won't claim the child as a dependent for 2022. So now the custodial parent, which would typically be the parent that would be claiming the dependent is basically saying they're not going to complain that going to claim them and have this written agreement for that. Why would they do that? Well, possibly that's part of separation or divorce agreement or whatever that was come to possibly because they came to that because there was a tax benefit in whatever arrangement they settled on and it was, you know, that's what they agreed on for for whatever reason. So and a non custodial parent includes a copy of the form or statement with their return. So the non custodial parent then has to verify that that this is indeed the case with a copy of the statement. If the divorce decree or separation agreement went into effect after 1984 and before 2009, the non custodial parent may be able to include certain pages from the decree or agreed instead of form 8332. You can see post 1984 and pre 2019 or pre 2009 decree or agreement and post 2008 decree or agreement for more information. So again, somewhat of an unusual state situation here, but not totally unusual given the given the current environment. So be a pre 1985 decree of divorce or separation maintenance or written separation agreement between the parents provides that the non custodial parent can claim the child as a dependent. And the non custodial parent provides at least $600 for support of the child during 2022. So if conditions one through four apply only the non custodial parent can claim the child for purposes of the child tax credit and credit for other dependents line 19 and 28. So remember the general rule with regards to these the situation is if you're talking about a dependent, you can't really claim them on two returns. That's clearly if you claim the same Social Security number for the same person on two returns, you will almost surely get a kickback from the IRS. It's going to that's going to have a notice or you won't even be able to file the second return because that Social Security number had already been used if you're attempting to file electronically. So when people get into kind of manipulative games, the first person to file and claim, say the child is going to be able to get the tax return to go through and the other person might not even be able to file the tax return.  So what would like to happen is, of course, whatever separation agreement or custody agreement has worked out. You have it worked out and with the understanding that obviously you can't have both people getting the tax benefit of the one of the one child and that's going to be part of the whatever gets worked out. So however, this doesn't allow the non-custodial parent to claim head of household filing status. Now this again, kind of an unusual situation here, because now you're saying that that you're not going to claim them as the dependent. But you could possibly still use them for the head of household filing status. So remember, when we talked about the statuses single versus head of household, if for example, a couple was married, they'd have a married filing joint status, which is usually beneficial status. Unless you're dealing with like low income credits and stuff where all bets are off for that. And then when they get separate, if there was a divorce or something like that, then you would revert back to single if you didn't have any qualifying relatives, usually oftentimes children. So that means that the person, if there's a qualifying child involved, it's it might push up the filing status from single to head of household, which could be substantial. And you could end up with a situation where you actually don't claim the dependent, but you still fall into the rules of being able to have head of household filing status. So again, weird, strange situation, but one that could come up when you're trying to come up with like a separation agreement or something like that with a joint custody kind of situation. So the custodial parent or another taxpayer, if eligible, can claim the child for the earned income credit and these other benefits so you could see publication 501 for more details there. So the earned income credit is also tied to how many children are there as well. So again, with the lower income side of things, the child becomes quite, you know, for tax purposes, have a lot of tax dollars kind of tied to them because of now you've got possibly head of household status, you've got the child tax credit, and then you could have the earned income credit, which increases from one to three children from zero to three children substantially for the low income side of things. So again, you can have some kind of unusual, you can imagine unusual situations happening there. So custodial and non-custodial parents, the custodial parent is the parent with whom the child lived for the greater number of nights in 2022. So usually you would think who's going to be taking the child as a dependent, the custodial parent, the one they lived with for most of the time. The non-custodial parent is the other parent. So, but you can imagine a situation, of course, where the custodial parent is the one that the child lives with, but possibly not the one that provides, you know, most of the support maybe. And you can imagine from a tax standpoint, then if you're trying to get the biggest benefit tax-wise between everybody involved, that it might be more beneficial to claim them as a dependent on the person that provides the support because their income level might be higher. And so you get more of a tax benefit there while the other parent would still like to be able to claim them so that they get the head of household status as opposed to single and possibly for qualifications of like earned income credit and that kind of stuff. So you see how this gets kind of messy. So if the child was with each parent for an equal number of nights, the custodial parent is the parent with the higher adjusted gross income. Now, some people kind of bulk at this, they're like, well, why would that be? Meaning if you split it evenly because that's often the case with a joint custody situation, then they're going to say the custodial parent is the one with the higher adjusted gross income. The assumption being, well, you're taking care of them evenly, and then the one with the higher adjusted gross income is probably meeting more of their support needs. And so that's why they would default to them in that situation. So C publication 501 for an exception for the parent who works at night rules for a child who is emancipated under state law and other details. So other exceptions could apply in strange situations. So post 1984 and pre 2009 decree or agreement. So the decree or agreement must state all three of the following. One, the non custodial parent can claim the child as a dependent without regard to any condition such as payment of support. So now we're thinking, okay, what about that situation where the non custodial parent is getting permission from the custodial parent to claim them? What kind of decree do you need from the custodial parent in order to allow the non custodial parent to take them? So it can't be tied directly to payment of support because if you're doing that, then of course it's just a monetary, you know, you're paying for the tax benefit, right? Which is kind of doesn't seem quite right. Number two, the other parent won't claim the child as a dependent. Obviously that's one of that's what the terms of this whole agreement has to come to because, again, you don't want to have a situation where both people are fighting to just file their tax return first to claim the dependent. So the other person can't and then get it into a whole fight over that on the tax. Nobody wins that situation, except of course the lawyers. The lawyers love it. The lawyers eat it up. They're going to make you bicker like it. But any case. Number three, the years for which to claim is a release. So then you want some defined terms on it. The non custodial parent must include all of the following pages from the decree or agreement cover page including the other parent social service. The other parent social security number on that page. So the tax IRS needs to know who the other parent is their social security number by number. The pages that include all the information identified in one through three above signature page with the other parents signature and date of agreement caution. You must include the required information even if you filed it with your return in an earlier year. So you might be saying, Hey, look, I already gave you this last year. Do you need it again? Apparently the answer is yes. So post 2008 decree or agreement. If the divorce decree or separation agreement went into effect after 2008, the non custodial parent can't include pages from the decree or agreement instead of form 8332. So then you've got this form 8332. The custodial parent must sign either form 8332 or a substantially similar statement. The only purpose of which is to release the custodial parents claim to certain tax benefits for a child and the non custodial parent must include a copy with their return. So you've got the form that you can file 8332. The form or statement must release the custodial parents claim to the child without any conditions. For example, the release must depend on the non custodial parent pain support. The release must not depend on the non custodial parent pain support release of certain tax benefits revoked. A custodial parent who has revoked their previous release of a claim to certain tax benefits for a child must include a copy of the revocation with their return for details there. You can see form 8332 exception to the citizen test. So if you are a U.S. citizen or U.S. national and your adopted child lived with you all year as a member of your household, that child meets the requirement to be a U.S. citizen. In step two, question one, step three, question two, step four, question two and step five question two exceptions to gross income tax test. So if you're relative, including a person who lived with you all year as a member of your household is permanently and totally disabled, defined later, certain income for service performed at a sheltered workshop may be excluded for this test. So for more details there, you can see publication 501. Remember if they're if they're not a qualifying child and whatnot and they're like an other dependent that that income test was quite was quite low to be able to claim them as a dependent one of the barriers exception to the time lived with you. So temporary absences by you or other person for special circumstances such as school, vacation, business, medical care, military service or detention in a juvenile facility. Count as time the person lived with you also see children of divorced or separated parents. So in other words, we've got that requirement to live with you in some of the some of the rules. And you might say well what if they're out on medical they're at the hospital or something or some kind of medical place well that still kind of counts as living with you. So those are the exceptions to the general rule that would count towards the time with you in the house generally. So if the person meets all the requirements to be qualifying for child but was born or died in 2022. The person is considered to have lived with you for more than half of 2022. If your home was this person's home for more than half the time the person was alive in 2022 so someone tragically died. Then the question is well they only they died and it was only like six months into the year. Well then but but you but so you have to say well the test doesn't really make sense then so now you've got to make the test on when they were alive. And to see if they to see if you meet that test so if the person meets all other requirements to be your qualified child but you adopted the person in 2022. The person was lawfully placed with you for legal adoption by you in 2022 or the person was an eligible foster child place with you during 2022. The person is considered to have lived with you for more than half of 2022 in your main home was this person's main home for more than half the time since the person was adopted or placed with you in 2022. Any other person is considered to have lived with you for all of 2022 if the person was born or died in 2022. You and your home was this person's home for the entire time the person was alive in 2022 or if you adopted the person in 2022. The person was lawfully placed with you for legal adoption by you in 2022 or the person was an eligible foster child with you during 2022 and your main home was the person's home for the entire time since the person was adopted or placed with you in 2022. A foster child is any child placed with you by an authorized placement agency or by judgment decree or other order of any court of competent jurisdiction. My jurisdiction lies this way. Kidnapped child so another kind of tragic kind of situation that could come up here. If your child is presumed by law enforcement authorities to have been kidnapped by someone who isn't a family member, you may be able to take the child into account in determining your eligibility for head of household or qualifying surviving spouse filing status. The child tax credit, the credit for other dependents and the earned income credit. So obviously if a child was tragically kidnapped or something like that, then again, we're from a tax standpoint. What do you do on the tax standpoint for that year? And you may be able to claim, you know, the benefits of the dependent in that case. So the EIC earned income credit for details so you could see publication 501. Obviously, again, now you have situations with regards to the earned income tax credit, the child tax credit and possibly status from single the head of household. And this kind of situation and questions could of course arise there to married person. If the person is married and files a joint return, you can't claim that person as your dependent. So obviously, even if you even if you like younger women or men or whatever, you can't you can't you can't claim the married person as a dependent, right? It's two, it's two spouses that are married there. So however, if the person is married, but doesn't file a joint return or files a joint return only to claim a refund of withheld income tax or estimated tax pay, you may be able to claim that person as a dependent. So you could see publication 501 for details and examples. So in this case, go to step two question two for qualifying child and step four question four for a qualified relative. So again, unusual kind of situation, multiple support agreements. If no one person contributed over half the support of your relative, you can imagine this happening if, for example, three people were putting in or four people were supporting a dependent. One person then putting in over half the support. So now you have a situation of you're not no one meets that test, but someone should get a benefit for the dependent, right? You should otherwise it doesn't make sense not to have anybody benefit from the dependent. So or a person who lived with you all year has a member of your household, but you and another person provided more than half of your relative support special rules may apply that would treat you as having provided over half the support. So for that situation, you could see more details in publication 501 permanently and totally disabled situation. Another tragic situation we have to talk about with the taxes. A person is permanently and totally disabled if at any time in 2022 the person can't engage in any substantial gainful activity because of a physical or mental condition and a doctor has determined that this condition has lasted or can be expected to last continually for at at least a year or can be expected to lead to death. Public assistant payments. If you receive payments under the Treasury Assistance for Needy Families, the TANF program or other public assistance program, and you use the money to support another person, you could see publication 501. Qualifying child of more than one person. So even if a child meets the conditions to be the qualifying child of more than one person, only one person can claim the child as a qualifying child for all of the following tax benefits unless the special rule for children of divorce or separate parents described earlier applies. So the general rule is again, you can't have multiple people getting all these benefits for the same person with the same social security number that will cause problems. Number one, child tax credit and credit for other dependents. That's line 19 and additional child tax credit line 28 to head of household filing status three credit for child and dependent care expenses for exclusion for dependent care benefits and five the earned income credit. No other person can take any of the five tax benefits just listed based on the qualifying child. If you and any other person can claim the child as a qualifying child, the following rules apply for purposes of these rules. The term parent means biological or adopted parent of an individual. It doesn't include a step parent or foster parent unless that person has adopted the individual. So if only one of the persons is the is the child's parent, the child is treated as a qualifying child of the parent. If the parent file a joint return together and can claim the child as a qualifying child, the child is treated as a qualifying child of the parents. If the parents don't file a joint return together, but both parents claim the child as a qualifying child, the IRS will treat the child as the qualifying child of the parent with whom the child lived for the longer period of time in 2022. So if nothing else, that's usually going to be the distinguishing factor where the child lived for more of the time frame. So if you end up in a weird fight like that, that's if it comes down to what it comes down to, that's usually the breaker. So if the child lived with each parent for the same amount of time, the IRS will treat the child as the qualifying child of the parent who had the higher adjusted gross income, the AGI for 2022. If no parent can claim the child as a qualifying child, the child as treated as the qualifying child of the person who had the highest AGI for 2022. If a parent can claim the child as a qualifying child, but no parent does claim the child, the child is treated as the qualifying child of the person who had the highest AGI for 2022. But only if that person's AGI is higher than the highest AGI of any parent of the child who can claim the child.  Jay doesn't meet the conditions to be a qualifying child of any other person, including Jane's other parent. So then under the rules, just described, you can claim Jay as a qualifying child for all of the five tax benefits just listed for which you otherwise qualify. Your parent, your parent can't claim any of those five tax benefits based on Jay. However, if your parent's AGI is higher than yours and you do not claim Jay as a qualifying child, Jay is qualifying child of your parent. And you can see how that situation could be, you know, beneficial because you might want that to be the case because if you claim it, the parent claims it and they have more income from a total income tax perspective with everybody involved, it might be a more beneficial situation. So for more details and examples, you can see publication 501. So if you've got some, there could be some strange family arrangements and whatnot that can twist the tax code into kind of knots. So if you, if you have some of those, you can see more examples on that publication. So if you will be claiming the child as a qualifying child, go to step two. Otherwise stop. You can't claim any benefits based on this child. So we got the social security numbers. So you must enter each dependent social security number. That's the SSN. Be sure the name and social security number entered agree with the dependent social security card. Otherwise, at the time we process your return, we may reduce or disallow any tax benefits such as the child tax credit, which is a big one, of course, based on that dependent. If the name or social security number on the dependent social security card isn't correct or you need to get an SSN social security number for your dependent, contact the social security administration. You could see social security number earlier for more information there for, for the child tax credit, your child must have the required social security number. The required social security number is one that is valid for employment and that is issued by the SSA social security administration. So I'm not going to go into that more detail here because we've seen a little bit of that in the past. If your dependent child was born or died in 2022 and you do not have a social security number for the child, enter died in column two of the dependent section and include a copy of the child's birth certificate. If you or your spouse is filing jointly didn't have a social security number or I-10 issue on or before the due date of your 2022 return, including extensions, you can't claim the child tax credit or the credit for other dependence on your original or amended 2022 return. If you apply for an I-10 on or before the due date of your 2022 return, including extensions and the IRS issued you an I-10 as a result of the application, the IRS will consider your I-10 as issued on or before the due date of your return.


The concept of stoichiometry involves a number of different topics. Today we'd like to talk about the topic of limiting reagent. Limiting reagent is much like other forms of stoichiometry. It's based on the balanced equation. So what we'd like to consider is this equation where hydrogen plus oxygen give water. The balanced equation for this is that two moles of hydrogen plus one mole of oxygen will give you two moles of water. This establishes the ratio of the products and reactants. If we are given that we're starting with two moles of hydrogen and two moles of oxygen it's important to know which of these would run out first in the process and i.e. be your limiting reagent. So to do that we base it on the ratio between the hydrogen and oxygen in the balanced equation. There are several ways you can do this and I'd like to show you both ways. The first way is to take the quantity of hydrogen, two moles of hydrogen and we're going to multiply that by the ratio of oxygen to hydrogen. And there is one mole of oxygen for every two moles of hydrogen. Remember that when you have a fraction of this type that hydrogens will cancel your left with oxygen. And what this tells us is that if you have two moles of hydrogen you need one mole of oxygen to react with it. At this point it's a simple matter of comparing the quantity of oxygen that you need with the quantity of oxygen that you have. Since you only need one mole of oxygen and there are two moles present that means that oxygen will not be your limiting reagent. Let's look at this from the other perspective. Let's look at it from the oxygen perspective. Again two moles of oxygen is our starting material but we're going to change our ratio. Now we're going to say that we have two moles of hydrogen for every one mole of oxygen. When we do this we find that we would need four moles of hydrogen to react with two moles of oxygen. We do a comparison again and we find that since we need two moles of hydrogen and we have only two moles we we need four moles of hydrogen we have only two moles that hydrogen is our limiting reagent. So this quantity of hydrogen will limit the amount of water that we can form. It is interesting to note that when you have a limiting reagent the quantity of product water that we form can be calculated from that limiting reagent and it's a simple matter to do. We say that there's two moles of hydrogen that's our starting point that's our limiting reagent times two moles of water for every two moles of hydrogen. We're going to cancel here and remember we can also cancel these two's. That leaves us with two moles of water and so what we're saying is that if we have two moles of hydrogen we can only produce two moles of water. This value two moles of water is known as the theoretical yield. Theoretical yields in other words it tells you the maximum quantity of product that you can form from your limiting reagent. It's like if you bake cookies and the recipe calls for 36 cookies theoretically you should only be able to make 36 cookies. The concept of theoretical yields and limiting reagent sometimes is confusing the students but it's it is a skill that you can master if you work on it and you do lots of problems.