Hey guys she bear 1,000 here today We're gonna be trying out another meals on wheels on tray Let's eat Okay, so we have another one of these meals on wheels On trays, I guess you call them. It's food for meals on wheels Today we have the spaghetti meat sauce and green beans and of course, you know the vegetables I Hate frozen vegetables. I went over that before and I'll probably keep saying it But anyway, I'm gonna try them though, you know, you never know So this is just spaghetti and meat sauce. It's the same instructions as before You know they wreck recommend you thought out this one is thrown out a little bit, but Then heat on high for two to three minutes with additional 30 second intervals if necessary You can heat it in a conventional oven as well preheat oven to 20 325 remove film place tray on to cookie sheet and then into oven cook for 15 to 20 minutes or until Fully heated, you know what? Let's try that. Let's put this in the oven and Let's check it out that way see what this is like Hmm. Let's give it a shot Okay, so we're about ready to try this Spaghetti and these green beans. I forgot to mention. I I don't think I mentioned at all it comes from I guess food with care, I don't know if that's the the company or Just the product name, but They are out of Orlando, Florida, so I'm guessing that's the That's the company name so Used by 126 of 20 so they stay for a while in your freezer Also, they do deliver hot meals Most people opt out for these but I understand there's there's some People with handicapped that that they maybe can't reach their microwave and they sure can't you know get down in the oven to Put something take it out of the oven So, you know, then they can they can get them already hot they're delivered to you hot And you can eat them right then so that's pretty good What we're going to do here is let's try the green beans Got the green beans here. You know actually like I said, they're not real crisp, but those aren't bad green beans a little bit of salt and They they would probably Be alright Like I said, I've got a couple people wanting to see more of these so I mean I don't know What kind you guys get around your areas and stuff like that. That's just what they get around here apparently now when I was 18 I Worked for a senior center that and I delivered meals on wheels and I really liked it because I you know I like children and the elderly and I worked there for about six months and I had a woman that She was a blind lady and she knew it was me every time When I'd come to the door and But um Because I always thought she heard the car well One time I used my mom's car and it was quiet You know, I just walked in the door and I heard her say hello Marty. I said, how'd you know it was me? And she says well, I figures about that time. She said my stomach's telling me it's lunch time So she's a real sweet lady, but she ended up passing away and I just quit, you know Because I really really enjoyed all my people and it was pretty good. So Now they had some good food there. I delivered the hot meals But that's going back years and years ago, but let's let's try the spaghetti Let's try this. It kind of had Kind of tastes like the same sauce of course that they use for the lasagna, but The spaghetti nah, not really.  I guess it'd be alright. I'd like to try some of their hot stuff one time, but The spaghetti You know, like I said, you have to season it yourself because they can't put salt in this because you know They're being delivered to like the elderly and such so You know, a lot of them can't have salts and things like that. So But if you solid it up, it wouldn't be too bad the green beans this time they're they're not bad They're okay. They're acceptable. I'm going to give this one a five out of ten So there you go. There's another one. Stay tuned for more. I'll get a couple more and We'll try these as we go along. We'll try different ones Like I said, they've got the chicken and oh, they've got all kinds of stuff eggplant different stuff. We'll try so That being said We'll say she bears met the man a legend. I'm gone for now Monkeys on her way with another free item. So stay tuned for that video. We'll see what she got And again, thanks guys. Don't forget Friday 9 p.m Eastern time question answer live Stream so it's not going to hang out, but it's going to be a live stream. Get your questions ready. All right guys We'll see you soon. Enjoy the rest of your week. Bye. Bye


At Ellis Brigham we take product testing really seriously, it forms a crucial part of our range selection and today we're out here at the ski industries of Great Britain ski tests in Kutai, Austria. This is the last part of our range selecting, it's where we're going to decide exactly what skis and boots we stock in store. What I want to do now is pass you over to the brands so they can tell you about the key features of this ski, who it's designed for and what it's going to do. Here we have the Armada ARV 96 and the ARV range from Armada is their all-mountain freestyle range. The 96 is their flagship model and it's very much meant for someone who wants to ski all over the mountain and but also wants to run through the park. This is very much what Armada is known for is this kind of collection with all-mountain freestyle skis. Within the ski you have a poplar and ash core and so you have poplar core running throughout and ash stringers that give it great pop and great life. This is an incredibly versatile ski. It is very much an all-mountain freestyle ski but if you're wanting to take it off the side as well it will perform for you. So this is the Armada ARV 96. So we're out in team in France. This is the Ellis Brigham ski test and this is the final part of our testing program. This is when we invite colleagues from all the shops to come out and join us. Try the skis that we've range for next year, validate in our choices but also make sure that they've skied them, they know exactly what those skis do and they can give you the right information when you come into the store. So here's what it's all about. So I've just finished skiing the Armada ARV 96 and I absolutely love the way this skis. The flex pattern is really interesting to me. I ski a lot of park. I've done a fair bit of free ride. This is right up my street. The conditions I've skied it in aren't exactly where it's most at home but I was still able to get quite a lot out of it. So we've had some fresh snow up the top. It's getting a little bit heavier down the bottom and there's not that much flat piece and we've not really been able to ski any park either. What I have managed to do is take it off the sides a little bit, run it through its on groomers motions, side countries of off-peast and it performed really well. I really enjoyed the way it skied through that. There wasn't really any compromise I found. Like the tip stayed up enough, it's light enough, it's gotten off with that you're not having trouble in the deep stuff and on groomers it's fine as well. I was able to have a little play around on the tips and tails. It butters really nicely. I love the flex pattern on it. You can get right the way up, really push into them and you can get a good pop out of them too. They're not too soft. There's not too much of a hinge point too high up and played around a little bit. Got a few carbs on it. I like the way it holds an edge and switch it performs beautifully as well. It's really, really nice.


It's always a dope pop dope You know Situations, so we're gonna check that out. No one really stays retired retired when it comes to wrestling only a hand few people have So but I appreciate all the love and support man wrote to 70 K and man. Let's get right into this See They had an epic rivalry too. Oh, yep weeks later fully interblates had a fan So that but they always had a fantastic few between What kind of man are you?  Oh, I was just dropping those two Yeah, okay, you're gonna drop the the Kanye game one Yeah, might as well. That was funny. Definitely go ahead and drop that one, but hey, let me hit you back. I'm in a middle of recording Yeah Why you scared them like that? For now, there's still a hearty on this show I'm sure I'll see you in the future. Thank you all Now he's gone again unfortunately Nine years. I didn't even realize he was gone that long That was one of the best moments of that WrestleMania. I heard leader was on Smackdown this bad Smackdown Trish is a fan favorite for sure Jerry Back into what's on my wrist to earth. Yep. Oh, wait a minute. I don't remember this segment I definitely did not remember that segment I was in my new role in commentary watching the women's evolution. They awoke the dragon I am ready to step six years Some of y'all might think that I have a lot left in a tank That I should have got a shot at that WWE title And I'm only coming out of retirement I definitely didn't watch that I didn't even know that happened. Well, yeah, she recently just came back on Smackdown so yeah, you can tell he's holding his back right there After 15 years Remember that match Think I remember that match. I'm not sure My first time in this building was with my best friend and my father But thank you to everyone from the original ECW great people in this organization That I am gonna miss so much. Oh, that's cool.  Oh Yeah, he kind of he kind of hammed it up He was he was feuding with Brock at the time So he handed up like he was done from in-ring competition and then he still wrestled some more.  I believe he's supposed to have one more match left in this contract This was a monumental moment as well Watching that live I'm not gonna lie to you I definitely started tearing up because he was so emotional. You know, he didn't want to leave He didn't want it to end that way No one wanted it to end that way and to see him back again was like it was truly truly amazing One of the most heartfelt promo segments of all time This is so good This is so good Oh my god That was a cool moment to see him at in risk at WrestleMania Got this job I was it was kind of thrown together or whatnot, but you know It's it was still a kind of a good feel moment to see you at the time I didn't think any of this would happen and I'm gonna hug her and I'm gonna tell her I love her and all the money in the world can't buy her that We're letting me share my life with you guys for the past nine years. I love you to death Let's go home. I think was this a storyline. He had to leave because The stipulation something with the Nexus if he yeah, you have to leave or something like that It was I forgot what stipulation it was with the Nexus were basically you had to leave if he if if If it was break way Barrett ended up losing the match He would be fired or something like that. It was some stipulation where he was supposed to be fired And then he and that's like maybe a week the next week He was just there causing having for the Nexus That's literally what it was, but he's fired for one week He had a look at this He was beating up everybody in the Nexus Yep, and then one year later. It was a basically a squash match Because I'm thinking he are he's done and then he comes back next year the squash John Cena Okay, I really wish they wouldn't kept HPK retired This was a real emotional moment I Wish they would have just kept them retired. I just wish they wouldn't he should stay retired cuz that match I didn't even watch it. I just saw clips of it. It was awful. It was awful that match DX versus the brothers destruction awful I've been wrestling professionally for 22 years everything comes to a close and 22 years is a long time I've suffered some serious injuries. I don't want to hang around for people to say I remember when Bruno was great. I'd not retire at this time I will be one of those people that I used to hear people talk. I want to say isn't Bruno mark Bruno San Martino one of the longest reigning champions of all time I'm like his reign his title reign was ridiculously long. He's still good, but he's not the man he used to be Does he look in great shape? I made love him. I have to retire. Oh this one. I can see this one being number one This one definitely he was going for so long, bro. If you ask me if I do it again in a heartbeat Thank you very much It's happening Houston, bro Oh my god, it was so cool You think you know me? Oh, I love it, man. I love it when he came back that pop was Tremendous. Oh, I loved it Comment down below. Let me know. What was your favorite return from a retirement? Uh, it's gonna have to be the edge one for me because of the moment I granted people knew it got leaked, but it's still when his music hit you think you know me It was crazy What made it even more special and happened in my city at minnet maid park crowd going insane ah beautiful moment And ever since he's been back. He has been just Fantastic in every single program segment. He's in he's the best thing there on that show one of the best things Whatever show he's on. It's just great, man. I uh edges run again It's his later years in running like his his Grizzled older edge. He is putting on the best work. I've seen in his entire career. That's just my personal opinion But appreciate all the love and support man roll to 70 k appreciate y'all kicking me. See y'all in the next one


So, simply sitting there is not working for you. You can create a more active process, why so many ways of doing things are set up is, even the same person, an individual person may not be the same level of receptivity and openness every day of his life. So there is a chant, there is silence, there is sadhana, there is various other kinds of things. At least these three things if you take, there is a guru puja, there is a simple chant or simply sitting silently or sadhana. Any one of those things you do, it will work. If you and don't try to feel presence, you will end up imagining things. The important thing is not whether I am present or not, that you are present. So if you sit in one place, most of the time you are not present in that place, you wander the whole cosmos. So the best thing is if your mind is in such a state to chant or to do some sadhana or to do the guru puja so that you are present, if you are present, I am present. Always, I haven't failed yet. Even if I leave my body, I'll be still present. So you have to be present, that's the most important thing. The presence, there's no problem with my presence. It is your presence which is required. Somebody else cannot say, yes ma'am, when your name is called out. So it is you who has to be present. Whatever works for you, you be present that way, you can't be present without activity. Use activity. Okay, do the presence time, your guru puja time. You do that for you, that's the solution. You must understand, this is about you being present. You being present to another dimension of reality. Me, am I present? I am because presence is not a geographical thing. Sadhguru, are you present in my house? I will lock all my doors, will you break the doors and come? Why don't you at least leave your doors open? Why should I break the, force the door open like a burglar and come? Burglar anyway doesn't force, he slips in. Like a bandit. Why? Why don't you leave the door open and sit? It's about you being present. Right now, you're scattered all over the place. So if you cannot simply be present, use activity to be present. Guru puja is an activity. Or if the time and place is such that you cannot do the guru puja, at least chant. That is also a kind of activity, a milder activity, it's fine. Simply sitting and being present takes a certain… generally either takes lot of preparation or takes an external force. Most people, when they come to the first day Inner Engineering program, first thing they say is, three hours I cannot sit.  I thought there must be some taboo, thirteen and three and whatever. So I said, three and a quarter make it. Sadhguru, Americans cannot sit with three and a quarter hours, all our teachers and others advising me. I said it's okay, three and a quarter hours they will sit. Only first day they were struggling, from second day onwards, almost everybody sat except people who have some medical problems, that's okay. Because if you create something overwhelming, then they will sit because they don't have time anymore, they don't think in time. And time and space and the size of the bladder, everything you're making up, that's what he was saying. He's making up… you're making up everything, it's your concept of life. So, now presence, you don't worry about me, it's about you being present. I'm very present, always. Sadhguru, but my six-twenty Detroit time you may be sleeping. You don't worry, I'm present. Even if I'm dead, I'm still present.


Good morning, John. So it's starting to seem a little bit like this fun little AI thing that we're doing. It's gonna be about 30 to 40 different giant AI things over the next three months to five years, and I'm not really ready for that. So to try and get ready, here's one thing that I've been thinking about. Fact number one, mongooses are native to India and they're weasley little carnivores that chew up anything that's like small enough for them to get their teeth into. Fact number two, when Europeans arrived and then began to colonize Hawaii, they brought with them rats. And those rats were a problem for a bunch of reasons, but specific to this story, they were a problem for the European colonizers' sugar plantations. And so somebody got the bright idea into their heads to bring mongooses to Hawaii so that they would eat the rats, because mongooses eat rats. And the mongooses did not do a particularly good job of controlling the rat population, but they did a great job of eating a lot of native species that had never seen a mammalian carnivore before. An introduced species that is able to take root and change the ecology of an area, that's an invasive species. And if you introduce another species to try and control that invasive species, that's called biological control. And there are tons of stories of biological control going very wrong. Fact number three, Meta's large language model artificial intelligence thing called Lama was leaked, which means that there is almost definitely a teenager somewhere in Orlando, Florida, who has downloaded it and is running it on their home machine and teaching it to behave however that teen wants it to behave. And I'm only focusing on that teenager in Orlando right now because I would have been that teenager in Orlando if this had happened when I was a teenager. Ecosystems are incredibly complicated and it is very difficult to know what effect a change will have on the rest of the ecosystem. And the only thing that I can think of that might be more complicated than an ecosystem is a human society. Now this is a bit of a leap and I don't love taking leaps. But it might be that a good way to imagine part of what's about to happen is that we're about to live in a society with a bunch of invasive species in it. There are no native mammals in Hawaii except for one very cute bat. And so far in human history there have been no counterfeit humans that can't do all of the things that humans can do but everything they do looks human to us, who can have goals and work in the world in ways that we can't predict to achieve those goals. What does a society look like when it has those entities roving around in it and when those entities are controlled by everyone from that teenager in Orlando to Vladimir Putin? I don't know but I think that we can take some lessons from the world of ecology. Like there are some ecosystems that are more fragile. Ecosystems that are more isolated and have less diversity are at greater risk. And there are some demographics and groups in our societies that maybe have fewer immunities built up to deal with rapid change. That is a thing to be aware of. This isn't going to affect everybody equally. And also here's the thing, now we have gotten a lot better at things like biological control. We look very carefully for really specific controls on really specific target species. And then the last 30 or 40 years there's actually been lots of biological control programs that you haven't heard about because they've been successful. We made a whole sideshow about this. You should watch it. It's good. And there are lots of people in artificial intelligence right now working very hard to say okay let's not be that random guy in Hawaii who ruined everything for everyone. Let's think a little bit. Let's try and understand what the implications of this are. This can be done in better ways and in worse ways. But right now it feels like a lot of people are just thinking hey this is inevitable it might as well be me. So fact number four in ecology and everything else the only thing we definitely know is that things are going to change. But those changes don't come linearly. There are periods where there is less change and periods of rapid change. And it's starting to feel kind of obvious that both for society and ecology the next couple of decades are going to be kind of the fast times. So if nothing else get ready for that. John I'll see you on Tuesday.


Welcome, everyone. Hey there. Second, is it the second? I think it's the third keynote of the day. Yeah, thanks. First of all, my name is Thorsten Behrens. I'm here for Allotropia. We're honored to be able to sponsor the conference. First of all, I'd like to say thank you, in particular, to the local team here, setting this up in just a wonderful way. Like so? In such a wonderful way. And yeah, in a brilliant building with wonderful technology, and everything was great the last four days, actually, for me. But also, thank you to everybody else who helped making this a success. All the people from TDF staff, all the volunteers that helped both preparing things in the background. And everybody here coming here to the conference, of course, and presenting your talk and your work that you did over the last year. So yeah, I feel honored to be here. And welcome, everyone. So a few words about Allotropia. Company was founded less than three years ago. We're operational since January 2021. We spun out from another company that I've been working for five years. And we took essentially the entire LibreOffice open source team and spun out our own company. We're a remote first company and pure play open source, with quite a variety of customers all over the map, private, and public sector. Right, our team, most proud of it, most wonderful team. We're covering, essentially, if you look down this very long list there, we're covering the entire scope, not only of the code base, but also associated and parallel projects there. Pretty much the entire open source, Office Productivity Space, text processing, PDF, what have you not. So we're a one-stop company and we want to be, for all things, LibreOffice. And with our flagship initiative, the WebAssembly port, something with the guiding mission of the company to make open source shine in every shape and form, so running natively in the browser that was something that was not there before on the client side. Right, so we're also active in other organizations, for example, the open source business alliance. We do networking there, policy, a little bit of lobbying work in Germany, mostly. PDF, by the way, is a member there, too, so there's quite some alignment there. And we're trying to make sure that everybody knows, relative to other lobbying organizations, relative to other, like BSA or other places, that politics is informed about the advantages of open source and the very wide diversity there in the business landscape. Oasis, of course, very important for LibreOffice because of the open document format. And one of my team members, Michael, is there serving on the ODFTC. I've been serving there for many years, but now he's there. He's also co-editor of the ODF standard, and we're happy to fund that work. And finally, of course, last but not least, TDF, where we are in the advisory board, and I'm on the board, and my colleague Gabor is on the board, and my colleague Balasius on the membership committee. So we're trying to support LibreOffice and the project and TDF in very many ways, with a lot of time and a lot of energy, which I hope is showing. Yes, so what you see here, actually, that's the team. 10 people by now, so we've been growing since last year. What you see is essentially probably something like 75 plus years of experience in tech and in the market, and in particular, regarding the LibreOffice technology, the code base. In total, we will have eight talks over, or eight talks, seven talks, and one panel over the conference, just a quick walk through there so that you know where to go. There's some SDK adventure story from the woods from me, so bit of a showcase, what you can actually do with LibreOffice when you combine that with other technology in interesting ways. And it really helped to have a very deep knowledge of the core, but also of the extension development and what you can do on the SDK and API side. And so I think that's a nice showcase, what is possible, even if you don't want core development, and how we can do that. Second talk is from Saper. Yeah, that's another update on the WebAssembly story. If you want to run LibreOffice in a browser and you're curious what's happening there, come to that talk, there's some good stuff going on. If you want to run it in a browser, and it's a program where you also maybe not only want to run it there, you want to talk to it, automate it, build your own software around LibreOffice, and then interact on the JavaScript side with LibreOffice. And surprisingly or not, that is possible with UNO. So essentially it's not quite done yet. It's not absolutely production ready, but with that quite a large percentage so that you can use almost all of UNO client side in the browser. Third one is my colleague Michael Stahl about the work in around document accessibility. That's one larger area of work that we have been conducting over the past year mostly. So that's the accessibility of the software itself, where great strides were made, like great progress was made since we TDF hired Michael Vickhorn there, but also before with lots of tender work. The other side of accessibility is of course what comes out of LibreOffice, the documents itself, the PDFs, that also needs to be accessible in this day and age. And there was some gaps there and a bit of feature gap and then some bugs and stuff lacking. So that's one part of the PDF export story that we greatly improved thanks to customer funding. And Michael will talk about that. I mean, yes, so thanks to funding from Collabora, we were able to finally get us nice gradients. Very important for interoperability because the other programs there, they had more than just one or two colors in the gradient and it kind of looks a bit insufficient then when you import that and you get a nice rainbow colored gradient reduced to just two colors. So that works now. It's shipping with LibreOffice 7.6 and quite some detailed work there to do. Regina is busy standardizing stuff and there's some other corners where probably some work is necessary, but by and large UI, for example, interacting with it. But by and large, it's working. If you're curious, come to see Armin there on Friday. Yeah, this one, that's the extension formally known as the Walmux and it's now hosted at the Document Foundation and it's called LibreOffice Template System and I will tell some stories about what we did, what it is, what it can do with it and what's the plans, of course. Next one is Balash. Again, coming back to the document accessibility and a bit unrelated, but we put it in one talk. So it's essentially a story of what Balash did in the last half a year or almost a year and that's those two areas, improving Calc and the accessibility story, the document accessibility story in writer in particular. And there's some more work there planned in particular for Calc, so then suddenly those two things actually come together. Samuel unfortunately can't be here, so that's going to be a remote talk that is recorded but we will be in the room, so if you have questions, we can channel them. That is the accessibility sidebar, which is super great. So that matches something and surpasses what a competing office suite has there and it's building on top of previous work from Collabora and others with a accessibility checker. You might have seen that when you exported the document to PDF with a PDF UA enabled and you got some lists of warnings there. So this is now a very nice way to actually get this warnings in an asynchronous way and go through that and fix them. Go watch that talk, it's a really cool feature. And finishing off with, I think there's some rescheduling, I haven't checked the schedule, but I think we're moving that to Friday end of the day. That's a panel with HICO and other mentors from the GSOC this year and at least one student and we're going to present the work there and what happened in the GSOC this term. Okay, then moving on, that's double circumference, then a little bit of a sneak peek into the next year. So a bit of a roadmap, what we're planning to do from the Allotropia site, very important also to me is the Liberal Office Web Assembly work. So we plan to invest more there, get it ready as a product so that you can actually use that as a web widget in your web application and productize the UNO API binding so that you can use Liberal Office in a browser from JavaScript as if it would be Python, as if you would be hacking a Python extension or a Java extension on a desktop. Calc and Impress, we'll get some more document accessibility improvements, there's also quite some bug fixing probably still necessary. Now that 7.6 is out and we're getting feedback from the users. And then there's a very interesting thing that we will be very busy with in the next months so we obtained funding to the broad frame there is to improve the security story around Liberal Office and there's many pieces there that we can do and one important piece is obviously getting people to update the software on a timely basis and there was this prototype for the more based updates that Moghi did many years ago and there were plans to roll that out and productize that and I can today say that we secured funding for that so we would be most happy to implement that for the project, contribute it all back, also help with the infrastructure there to set it up. I personally think that's extremely important since we know how reluctant people are because it's kind of cumbersome and it's not really like a streamlined as this could be for the updates. Second there, that's a bit of a very technical, very geeky thing but the ODF format is substantially worse when you want to encrypt it so the way the ODF encryption works today makes it largely unusable for large documents or for documents with many, many images so we also secured funding to improve that to be at least on par with Microsoft then and also improve many other things like getting the encryption and the key derivation et cetera, getting that up to 2024 standards and another bit that's quite some smaller issues there but securing liberal office defaults there's always a bit of a tension so if you have default, should it be secured and it's mostly annoying to users or should it be relaxed and users are not annoyed by questions or by lockdown features but then like on a worldwide scale of course it makes the entire software slightly less secure if the defaults are. So that's gonna be an open discussion. Again, funding is there but it's in discussion that we need to have with all of you in particular with the user experience side of the project what works, what is acceptable and what is not and but at least like from the core side from the code side from the functionality provide options there to lock liberal office down a little bit more than it is today so that in any case, regardless of the defaults then an enterprise can really lock it down. Okay, then that was the advertising and the company and allotropia story. If you would allow me some personal thoughts. I'm standing here in front of you not just as a managing director and majority owner of a company but also as a director of the board and so I do have some personal thoughts on some things and given that I have the stage now I thought I could share a few with you. Yeah, TDF turns 11 next February, the foundation and liberal office turns 13 next week so it's coming a teenager, it's quite a long time. I've been on the board for almost 12 years so in February next year it's gonna be 12 years. So that's a long time and what have we done? I mean looking back clearly we started with that rocket ship and by all measures, by all means we were extremely successful. If you look at the foundation today we got I think 1.5 million annual donations on average we got 15 staff, we had an extremely well known brand. We are the floss office suite, the open source office suite. I mean there's a few smaller contenders but it's a synonym for the office suite there. We're a role model for others who come, want to join the foundation, want to join the project, want to benefit from the name recognition from the brand or want to learn from us. So people from the foundation, people from the project are now helping other projects, mentoring other projects, counseling other projects. So by all means it's a great success story and we have established us in the wider open source world and not only that, we have become part of critical infrastructure. The fact that the German federal organization IT security institute or agency is now funding improvements in liberal office I think is testament to that, that we have become that important. And we are recognized as part of the digital sovereignty substrate. So people realize that an office suite is part, is an important part, for example, of a government desktop. So there are initiatives that want to use liberal office in that context and they realize it also needs funding. So both of that, like not only that, they recognize it's great to have open source there, but also that open source needs funding, that's our success, not just us, but clearly we had a role there to push that narrative. And yes, we're used in governments and we're all partially funded by governments all over the world, in particular in Europe. So I think we are there, we have established ourselves, but now what? And that is, I think, part of the issues that we've seen in the recent years that we're kind of plateauing. So we've been incredibly successful and we achieved things beyond our wildest dreams really, at least I would not have expected that the project would be that successful with so many people and have this sort of maturity and this organizational level. Still, the question is, what's next? And that has been asked since a few years with the extricate manifesto from 2010 to 2010, and then 11 and then 12. So my personal take on that is we need to look beyond LibreOffice. When TDF was funded, well, it's not that we should ignore LibreOffice, it's not that we can do five million great things with LibreOffice, but TDF was funded with the idea in mind that it's an umbrella organization, we should have more than just this single-trick pony that is LibreOffice or the office suite or the desktop. So fanning out, doing more, trying things, I think that's the, my opinion, that's the order of the day. And there's lots of green shoots everywhere. If you look what's happening with LibreOffice, the core, like LibreOffice technology, where it is used, how it is used, who is using that, there's lots of great things happening.  You need to listen a bit and you need to pay attention, but you do notice that. But there's more than that. We got more than 150 Git repositories at TDF hosted. There's some duplication, there's some forts of other projects, there's some infrastructure stuff there, but there's real projects out there that are not LibreOffice. There's Document Liberation Project, there's the LibreOffice Template System, there's the Order of Toolkit, there's CPP Unit, there's Python Goodness, there's more than a thousand extensions in the extension repository. So I think there's great potential and the more we increase the diversity and the more we are attractive for other projects, the higher the chances that one of those, a two, three, or 10, will grow into an next big thing, here or there or there. So I don't know if you've seen, I mean, and with the idea that desktop, of course, is aging, it's a bit of a legacy, but then you see, I don't know if you've seen this latex, there's a number of designated latex, accessible, for example, types, but others. So rethinking, reimagining document production. I think that's something where TDF is extremely well placed to host those projects if they're open source. So in terms of goals, like what we can do beyond encouraging others to join us, what actively can we do? I don't know how many of you know those six strategic goals that are on the slide now? Who see them? Okay, that's like a handful of people who've seen them before. So, well, that's actually the foundation goals since last year. So maybe we should, that first and foremost includes me, promote them a little bit more. So who worked, who from the people in the room worked on one of them at least in the last year? It's almost the same number. So at least those that knew about them did work on them, which is great. Thank you. Right, so yeah, so maybe it would help then if it would be more inclusive now, if we would listen, maybe those goals are not the right ones. Maybe you have other goals. Maybe the only goal is having fun or your goal is something else entirely.  So encouraging people to innovate, encouraging people to realize their dreams and their ideas. I think that's where the TDF can shine. And of course, everyone from us turning this around, the question is what I can do to further the mission and you need to tell us if you need help with that. And I think TDF would be most happy to help them and jump in. So what am I here for if you ask me that? So my primary motivation is that I just love the project and I love working with all of you. I love furthering the project and I love helping it to stay relevant for at least another 13 years. I would just love to see the contributor base growing as it did in the years past. There's some, I think some need to professionalize the organization more of a growing. So that's in the early days, everything was, as others said, a bunch of friends doing things on a shoe string. And I think we've grown enough and matured enough, but I think there's quite some work to professionalize. But the most important thing, I'd like to continue having fun. So should that be the case that the fun is not there anymore, let's all work together to get the fun back. And with that, I'd like to wish you all the most wonderful, enjoyable liberal office conference. Thanks again, everyone for coming here, spending your time with us. Thanks a million to the organizers. Thanks for TDF, for organizing, for paying a lot of bills, for helping in the background as always. Thanks so much.


Hi, how are you guys doing today? I'm here with a very special guest, it's Kevin Lee, the business development manager of ND Supplies. How are you doing today Kevin? I'm great Rich, thank you for having me. Thank you for being here. We've got some products on the table. We do.  Absolutely. So we are a packaging company, we manufacture and wholesale to the cannabis industry. Okay. So we manufacture our own bottles such as this with different types of lids, tincture bottles. We do just a bunch of different types of bottles and bags and just any packaging solutions really for the cannabis industry. And you guys are a private company? We are a private company. And where are you guys located? We're in Richmond, B.C. Okay. Yeah, we're a local group born and raised so yeah, we're very fortunate to be, to grow up in B.C. and to have that kind of exposure to the cannabis industry, right? So yeah, how are you guys doing? Like obviously the cannabis industry is just blowing up. It is, yeah. It's becoming one of the biggest, most powerful industries in the world. Yes. The stock market this year has kind of been up and down. It kind of went down a lot after a huge explosion. Yeah. And it's kind of reset now. Totally. And I believe we're going to see huge growth again. Absolutely. Moving forward. Where do you guys fit in the picture?  Sure, I love to do an unboxing for everybody here. So this is a sample package that we sent out to some of our clients, LPs and things like that, right? So we just cracked this open here. We have child resistant mylars. I mean, we strive to be as compliant as possible. Very good. I mean, it's very important that, you know, kids can't get into these packages. Of course. I have kissed myself and I would never, yeah, right? And so we would never want our children to get into this, right? Because not at all. Maybe a little bit older, but when that happens, it happens, right? So we want to make sure that we're fully compliant and, you know, at the same time, easy to use, right? So nothing that we do is overly complicated. Very, very simple. At the same time, very effective. So we have here is a child resistant mylar bag. Very standard packaging product. I mean, it's just a package for flour. It is, yeah. People are starting to use this for edibles as well. Okay. So this particular bag opens up from the bottom. So it's great for edibles. You can slide your cookie in and seal it. For flour, it's mainly people prefer a top open, right? So you can crack this open, right? So yeah, it's child resistant.  Well, hey, man, it has to be. Yeah, for sure. We know that it's safe and the kids can't get in. Absolutely. You also know that if you want to tear it, it'll open easily. Totally, for sure. Definitely. So you'd mentioned that you have a few LPs. Tell us some of the LPs that work with you. Currently, we're working with We Grow. Yeah, they're a great company, a great product. Great. We also work with the BC Liquor Board. Oh, nice. Yeah, so. And how long have you guys been in business? We've been in business for only two and a half years. Great. But over those two and a half years, we've seen exponential growth. Wow. Yeah, just because I mean, we're really pushing hard to be compliant and to make sure that all our products are of the highest quality. So we work with a lot of our manufacturing partners over in Asia and we're very, very involved in the process. And so you guys are working internationally now or just specifically focused in Canada? Right now, we want to build our base in Canada. We're born and raised in Canada. We are a Canadian company, but at the same time, I mean, I think our products will work well in any market. And what are your guys' goals as a company? Are you guys looking to expand this into the US eventually? We would love to, for sure. Because that's a massive market, right? It is, it is. I mean, just the population of California is the population of Canada. So if you take a look at, you know, at America, like 350 million people, that's a much bigger market than Canada. Absolutely. But at the same time, we're homegrown and we want to make sure that, you know, like we actually have a huge opportunity in Canada because we're federally legalized. Whereas in the States, you have to deal with, you know. Yes, state by state. Exactly. It's only like I think 11 states that are open right now. Right, yeah. So what exactly is your goal for this conference? Are you looking for people to buy this product? Are you looking for LPs to partner with you? Talk to the community that there's LPs that are watching this show. Totally. Are you looking for that business? Absolutely. But at the same time, we're looking for exposure. We're looking to educate people on how packaging is done and how to do it properly, right? That's the most important thing.  You know what I mean? That's not, that's not, that's not the most important thing. The most important thing is everybody coming together to really, you know, learn more about the business. And for me to really get some, get some more information on how we could be a better company, right? How can we make better products? What would you guys want from us, right? Like, I would love to hear that for sure. Very good. And if there's somebody that's watching that needed to know more about ND supplies. Right. What would you tell them? I would tell them to give us a call, right? I mean, ND supplies, we're very open. We have a bunch of professionals, like everybody that is on our team is very passionate about cannabis, about the industry, as well as really educating the public and everybody else about cannabis, right? It's not just about, you know, smoking a joint or anything like that. It's an experience, right? And I think a lot of, I think a lot of people don't understand exactly how beneficial cannabis is. You know, not only on the recreational side but on the medical side as well. And how are you guys benefiting from legalization 2.0 and the new edibles category? Well, we're definitely selling a lot more bags. So that's really been good for you? Definitely, for sure. I mean, it's... Because you guys were doing flour. Now you're doing flour and edibles. Yes. So has that doubled your sales? It has come close to, for sure. 30% increase?  So there's not a lot of products on market yet, but we're starting to see an influx of people coming to kind of ask us more about how are we going to do this, right? And it's a mutual thing, right? We like to talk to people about it too, because how would you like the packages, right? I mean, these products are pretty standard in the industry right now, but we're always looking to push the envelope. So when people look at these products, it kind of looks like cigarettes packages, right? Yes, it does. Does anybody ever complain about them? I mean, this looks good. I mean, these packages look good. Yeah. I mean, they're clean. Aesthetically, they're great. I mean, the only way to differentiate between companies right now is color, different shapes of the lids, some like the dome, some people like the ribbed. How about beverages? Are you guys going to get into the beverages? We will. Packaging and beverages? We will. We're doing a lot of research and development on that right now as well. It's a very, very new market. And we want to make sure that anything we put out is going to be well researched and compliant, right? And do you have a limit on how much packaging you can do? Do you have a number of how much bottling you can do at your plant? Like, what are the limits and limitations to your packages? Well, we work with multiple suppliers and manufacturers, right? So right now, we can scale to just about any. Wow. So there's no limit? There is no limit. No limit, yeah, for sure. Well, you know what? Thank you so much for your time today, Kevin. Thank you, Richard. I wish you guys all the best of luck in your future endeavors. Absolutely. Enjoy the conference. We will, yes. Guys, ND Supplies, Kevin Lee, the vice president of business development, sorry, the business development manager at ND Supplies. Thank you for having us today. Thank you, Richard. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you, everybody, for tuning in. And I wish Kevin Lee all the best of luck. And I wish you guys a chance to achieve all of your objectives at the conference. Thank you, and you too. Thank you for doing what you do. Thank you very much. Have yourselves a great day, and thank you guys for watching. Thank you, everybody.