Hi, this is your host, Sapna Bhartiya, and welcome to another special edition of Let's Talk, which was meant to be recorded at Open Source Summit, but our guest today, Rob Hershville, CEO and co-founder, Reckon. You couldn't make it there because there was a conflict. So we are doing a post-recording after the show. Remotely, Rob, it's great to see you again. I missed you at the summit. Swap, it's always a pleasure and such a great community at the Open Source Summit. It really is an impressive event. It was an impressive event and I had a ton of discussion, a ton of interviews there and talking to those folks and seeing how a strong Open Source continues to go there today, though it has so new challenges now. A lot of folks, they are using Open Source, but they don't realize it, and that brings us to the very early days of my own journalism where we used to tell, hey, this is how you should use Open Source and this is how you should get back. But that's a topic for a totally different show altogether. Today, what I do want to talk to you about is that if you look at just, if you have a very narrow view, look at just CloudNeti, we're not that word in general, all the word in general. What do you think? What are the factors that played a role in adoption of all these CloudNeti technologies?  So talk about what has driven this adoption of Open Source in CloudNeti world. And Kubernetes is one of those projects. There are several projects. Linux is another great example where the degree of collaboration that's empowered by Open Source is really the differentiator. There are certain types of projects. There are certain events in the industry in which the ability of people to collaborate is a hyperpower for being able to produce really high quality products, get a lot of adoption, really meet people where they need to be. And when that happens, when it works, it is transformative. And the only way that can work is when the source is open, when the parties can actually come together, collaborate, work together, work on their use cases together, that type of sharing is really empowered by Open Source and the way Open Source projects work. And so it really is something that when it happens, it's magical and it does transform the industry. What I wanna talk to you about is that just because something is Open Source does not mean it's a perfect solution for a specific use case or a special company. Just the way we pick any solution doesn't matter whether it's proprietary or not. There are a lot of things we look at when we evaluate that solution for our use case. Are there any criteria that an Open Source project should meet when it doesn't matter whether it's enterprise customer or startup, they are considering using an Open Source project for their own services and products? You know, a lot of people will tell you, and I think it's a safe answer, but I don't think it's a complete answer. They'll tell you that you wanna find a healthy, vibrant multivendor community for a project. But in my experience, while that is often a very good sign of a durable project, especially a foundational project, the way those projects evolve, they don't start that way. It's very unusual for that to happen. A lot of times they happen, a project evolves out of having a small team with a strong vision of how to solve a problem. And, you know, the ability of that project to meet your needs and match your vision is actually almost as important or more important than if it has a hundred vendors supporting it. You know, because that's really what drives things forward. And one of the things that we've seen, people look at the landscape and love to, you know, point to the landscape as a failure or a problem. In a lot of cases, it's showing a very healthy ecosystem around where there's a lot of different ideas coming and going as people build off each other and work together. Sometimes we'd like to be able to say, can't these projects just get along and play? The thing that comes to mind because of my interests in edge and infrastructure side is, you know, we have at least four edge-focused Kubernetes distros at this point. And it would be great to think that there would be only one of those. But the way open source works is that it allows us to have a passionate subgroup of people who are gonna work on ideas and share, you know, even if they don't share code, they're sharing ideas, they're looking at each other's use cases, they're looking at how they're solving problems. And eventually one or two of those will likely emerge as a leader and people will get behind that as a component or it's possible that, and this is perfectly fine, that you can have one vendor maintaining an open source project for perpetuity. And at that point, they're gonna be able to sustain the project and that would be just fine. Customers and people using open source need to consider that the source being open is a bit of a defense for the long term and being able to sustain the project. But it doesn't have to be that it's all, you know, big multi-vendor projects or even big, you know, the biggest vendor, their projects don't necessarily win the market. Matter of fact, a lot of times they don't. Just because, you know, as we said, it's open source does not qualify to become an ideal solution. Sustainability of that project is very important and that sustainable can come either through a larger community behind it or very strong commercial model behind it. And I feel that commercialization is very, very critical for the survival or success of open source. Without that, it will not succeed. So can you also talk about the role commercial players, you know, it doesn't matter whether they have their own code base or not, they play in success and adoption of open source technologies. Oh, that's a really good point. And one of the reasons why we talk about projects having multiple vendors or multiple players or a big company behind them is because we care about the sustainability of the project. It's a shortcut for the sustainability of the project. And so anybody using open source should be asking themselves, how is this code being maintained, right? And even more importantly, how am I as a user contributing to that code being maintained? Either financially or by advocating for it, by contributing code, right? Sustaining that project and that community in some way becomes really, really important. And that's really the secret for how you should be looking at these projects. It's, you know, what is the sustaining model and is it sufficient? A lot of projects don't need legions of developers doing the work. They need, you know, high expertise, committed group who has a financial funding model that lines up around the project's durability. And I think that's a mistake that people make. They think that every project that they look at needs to have some deep and wide support base. It's, you know, a lot of cases, you don't, a small team who understands the area very well and has the right support and financial model can really move mountains from a project perspective. But I also want to talk about the purely commercial aspect because, you know, with a lot of players, they don't have all the resources go home. The thing is that open source is often free, but it can become expensive over time because, no, I mean, I'm not saying in a bad way, but the fact is it's all day one problem. You can get it started very easily. You download the code, get it started. But you need a lot of developer resources to actually, you know, maintain it, update it, patch it. If you want to need ad services, so there are a lot of commercial players, they specialize in that. And sometime it frees your own resources in a lot of other things. So talk about the role commercial players play in, you know, success of open source. Yeah, commercial, the commercial component here is a really significant piece to making all this work because what we're talking about with a commercial, let me take a step back in answering this. If you think of open source as a group of developers working in their free time to write this code and it's a passion project for them and you're using it as a commercial entity, then I think you've really missed the how software in general, not just open source, but software in general gets propagated and built. What you wanna be able to do and the most success of any software, commercial or open source, is when you have a shared group of development resources working across all of the users of that software. Right, and that's how proprietary software works. It's how good open source works. You are supporting by paying for licenses and support of that software. And then the development effort for that listens to your needs, listens to the needs across the user base and then builds and supports that software. That's actually how innovation happens. If you are funding only things that you need or developing only things that you need, you're not actually building a sustainable software project, definitely not a software product. The way the whole system works is when people are funding work it gets shared across many use cases. And that is actually a commercial model because most people don't care about your specific use case. What you need, you are voting for your needs by funding that work. And so that there is a very important commercial aspect to making sure that your needs are met on an ongoing basis. And then if you're doing it right and you should investigate this regardless of what type of software, making sure that what you're getting is built for a lot of different users in a broad set of use cases. If you're doing things that are just for you, that's custom software development and ultimately is gonna be much more expensive for you whether it's open source or not. That's just the reality of software. Can you also talk about the role that you have seen that foundations play in success of open source? It's an underappreciated role. I spent, I believe it was five years on the open stack board. So I'm very familiar with how a foundation, what it can do and what it can't do from an open source perspective. And people will correctly understand that the role of a board or foundation is very driven by the marketing and the brand. It's the main lever that the foundations have is around how the brand of the software gets used which sounds like a very weak use case but the reality is what it really does is it polices the commercial aspects around the project. And so one of the biggest dangers for an open source project is that the people, it gets popular and then the companies that are around the project will make claims about using that project that are not true. And the foundations are actually able to police the behavior, the engagement, the marketing, what's said about the projects. They actually have a lot of behind the scenes influence to make sure that people don't fork. They help resist forking pressures. They resist vendors misrepresenting. They resist vendors basically working against each other. It is an absolutely essential role because fundamentally in a successful open source project at the foundation level, these are competitors trying to collaborate on a shared community good. And the foundation polices how that is shared. They have to create enough competition and opportunity for everybody. And they have to make sure that people don't take the pieces and run or guard things that they think are proprietary. And that role of it's not a policeman. They don't have the engagement. It's a lot more carrots. They can use marketing as a stick and not allow people to be part of the brand. And so there's a very careful balance to act as a diplomat and negotiator inside of this potentially delicate environment and choosing how all those things get set up. I do also like when foundations invest some resources in doing some of the toil for projects and making sure that there's tests and training documentation, right? I do think that really successful foundations have done that investment also to make sure that some of the things that sometimes vendors lean on the community and become lost, that certifications is another example. Those are very, very important roles for foundations also to take on because it provides sort of a base strength for the community that the users really depend on. Can you talk about the role that companies like Racken play in this whole ecosystem to enable customers, users, leverage all these open source technologies? I think that that's a really important point in understanding that when people use open source, their ability to consume it in a consistent, repeatable way really becomes important. So Racken provides infrastructure automation software. We help companies run data centers from the ground up as software, so they run it. We provide the infrastructure as code scaffolding and support to make sure that that's repeatable. And in an open source framework, and this is true actually, even for the proprietary systems, whether they be hardware or things like VMware, but when we're talking about running this type of infrastructure, the ability to have a consistent, repeatable process and reuse other people's work is absolutely essential. So one of the things that we do that really makes open source much more accessible for our customers is the infrastructure as code pieces allow us to have standardized pipelines for deploying these open source operating systems. And that means that you can adopt the latest, you can stay on the current releases, you can move faster, you can collaborate when things change. One of the things that people need to remember about open source is it's a very dynamic environment. And you need to be able to have your own processes, your own ability to take new patches. You have to be much more resilient in how you adopt these systems because you're not gonna get five years or 10 years of patches and upgrades or changes like that. If you're adopting open source, the best strategy is to have a very dynamic infrastructure where you can quickly roll forward, where you can stay up with the community. If as soon as you drop behind the community, you're running into support risk for yourself, you're running into security risks or governance risks. So what we help customers do across the board, but especially valuable for open source is use standard pipelines that work across all of our customer base and are very dynamic and fast to stay up with the latest changes in the current revs of all the software. That in itself enables you to consume these products and these projects much more effectively because as things change as new pieces come out, you can stay right up with the latest components. And that is one of the best ways to actually to support the communities that you're involved in, but also to protect yourself against the dynamic environments that open source enables. And it's actually what people want. They want that innovative, active community part. And if you don't have a way to bring that into your infrastructure, you're not as well positioned to take advantage of the communities and also the price savings, the cost savings from open source. Rob, thank you so much for sitting down with me and talk about this important topic. As I said, I wish we could have done that at the summit, but I look forward to chat with you again, maybe in person. Thank you. I'm looking forward to it. Thank you.


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This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network Preseason week one got underway last night Which means it is officially football season and time to talk about some player props today We've got JJ Zachary's of late-round fantasy on the show to break down his favorite season-long player props for this year But also JJ's gonna be joining us throughout this year. It's gonna be a fun ride We'll talk to JJ in just one second. This is covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network My name is Jim Sonnis. I am a senior writer and analyst for a number fire.com joined here by JJ Zachary So my old colleague here at number fire moving on now to be later on podcast Of course and also late-round calm JJ. It's fun to have you back in the mix. How you doing? I'm good, man I'm good. I'm doing better than Traylon Berks after last night apparently You know, he's just in the doghouse a little bit playing into that fourth quarter in the first preseason game Not great not great for Berks so far, but yeah doing great man. I'm excited that football is back So with Berks, I was like playing some DFS last night. I was like, okay Like, you know, he's been the camp reports and bad That means so play a lot and he did he played 30 snaps. He had one target. Yeah across that entire time So like I thought I was into it because I thought it'd be bad And then it was worse somehow than my impression was so Not ideal by any means maybe we'll talk about Traylon Berks later on potential See if we can snag some player props there But if you don't know JJ you can find his his podcast. It's the late-round fantasy football podcast There's a link to that and late round calm in the show notes over on number fire calm to check out all that But of course JJ the projection maestro. We're in talking to him Today to get his read on some season-long player props how to build out projections What goes into that because I think that the process itself is is helpful to know because it can help you think better about player props as well Like I said, well JJ on throughout the season two on Fridays to break down player props for individual weeks We'll talk to JJ about the projection building process in just one second But first big news Fandal has an all-new mobile gaming app Fandal faceoff Fandal faceoff is where you can compete in quick fun games against other real people or real cash It has all sorts of games that you're familiar with like a home run derby wheel of fortune Puzzle and strategy games with more on the way contests are action-packed and last between two to five minutes So you can play wherever and on your schedule plus you can practice for free anytime whether it be head-to-head Multiplayer or larger tournaments Fandal faceoff has something for you plus in most contests We matched against the players of similar skill level So you're never totally overmatched even as a beginner faceoff It's also tied to your Fandal account wallet So you can easily use your daily fantasy funds or sportsbook winnings in the app It's a Fandal comm slash faceoff or download the Fandal faceoff app in the Apple app store today to get in the game agent location restrictions apply void were prohibited see Fandal comm slash faceoff dash terms for terms and Conditions, let's talk. That's in player props for 2022 and JJ I feel like you got to be feeling good right now before you even talk about any of this stuff because I was reading through your your late-round draft guide for Rookies coming out of the draft and that got me on Isaiah Pacheco That work that's working out pretty well. I think you liked Isaiah likely I believe I don't want to project on to you, but I'm pretty sure you talked about him He had a good game last night as well So it seems like things the vibes got to be pretty good just based off camp reports alone so far Yeah, look so far so good, you know from a projection standpoint evidently I like guys named Isaiah although Isaiah spill or didn't look that great in my prospect model But yeah, you know so far so good if Isaiah Pacheco ends up hitting I will be a very very happy man at the end of the day I will be too because again I was on my honeymoon during my rookie drafts and so I was using your draft guide to like Effectively just be my rankings and wound up taking Pacheco in I think two separate leads the moon with you So again, you kind of you played yourself there So yeah, a little bit think about that next time around in the dinosaur leagues We're in together, okay So I want to talk about the projection building process because we've had you on this show to talk season-long player process the past couple of years But obviously not everybody has heard all those shows. So I want to go back through that process once again for new listeners What all goes into building a season-long projection for you? Yeah, so, you know, I go with more of a top-down approach You know, I know that a lot of people probably think that it's just sort of like looking at different Offensive positional players and looking at wide receivers and running backs Just sort of like throwing target numbers at them and then kind of looking at a yards per target rate and doing it Mine's a lot more process than that. You know, I look at it from a top-down approach Like I said, I look at the team level first and then I dig into the individual players So what do I mean by looking at the team level? I'm talking about pass rates I'm looking at plays run per game and I'm able to then project pass and rush attempts based on some of those things to get Those numbers, you know I'm looking at team win totals as one input to see what game script might generally look like because obviously if teams are trailing more Then that means they're not gonna be or they're gonna be a little bit more pass heavy and vice versa You know, obviously there's team philosophy driven things You know if a coach likes to do a certain thing or run a certain offense Then they might be a little bit more run heavy or pass heavy But at the end of the day, you know, good a good example This is like Seattle this year where they're just not going to be that good And so, you know, you can look at them philosophically Yeah, Pete Carroll would love to run the ball 50 times a game But it's just not gonna happen in that offense because they're not gonna be, you know ahead And they're gonna be trailing a lot this season So, you know from there then once you get some of those high-level team numbers Where you have pass attempts you have rush attempts You know I can then look at the quarterback numbers and I can start to project quarterback play and that all Feeds back up into the team level stuff. And so instead of looking at it from the perspective of I'm projecting quarterback attempts I'm projecting team attempts and then I'm projecting the percentage of drop-backs or attempts that a particular quarterback on a team would get So, you know, most guys I'm gonna project for like 98% of the teams attempts But there's some situations like Pittsburgh for instance or you know, Cleveland throughout the offseason because we don't know what's going on with The Sean Watson where you know, it's more of like a 50-50 thing or a 70-30 thing or what have you so I'm able to project quarterback numbers and then from there once the quarterback numbers are projected And I have passing output in terms of yardage and stuff and stuff like that I can then start to divide receiving numbers and so I'm looking at more target share stuff rather than Targets themselves because target share again feeds back up into the team level stuff and then for running backs It's rush share and then, you know from it from the standpoint of like efficiency and how they Score touchdowns and how they generate yards all that stuff is really regression analysis It's looking at how these players did previously and historically Combined with you know, some some guys are rookies or some guys, you know You only have one year on them or something like that really just looking at historical averages And you know if some some of it is subjective, you know I'm bumping up if this guy is a good player or not then he's probably gonna be a little bit better than the historical average So there is some subjectivity involved there But I try to keep it as process oriented as possible and then from a touchdown standpoint when I'm projecting touchdowns A lot of that is regression analysis based on just some formulas like I have a pass You know a receiving yardage to touchdown type formula that I that I work with and I look at like Average at the target and I look at where these guys could be seeing looks on the field because obviously if they're seeing more red Zone looks than not then they could see more more scores Overall, so there's a lot of things that go into it But I think the overall Important thing to take away is that I'm looking at the team level first I'm understanding the team what they want to do what their philosophy is what the game scripts might look like and then that's all feeding Into the player stuff. So let's dig into that team level stuff here because that's a huge thing like you mentioned And this is also an inflection point for that because a lot of teams have had Philosophical changes whether it be because of coaching changes or quarterback changes stuff like that They're gonna be different in 2022 than they were in 2021. So when you are Building your projections entering run-pass ratio stuff like that Are there any teams you think could surprise us for this year that could lead to a player being or players on that team on the whole Being either over or undervalued. Yeah, I think there's two teams They're actually from the same division that really are interesting from this perspective because I think there's like some teams Like Minnesota for instance where people just generally know that they're gonna be a little bit more pass-heavy It's gonna be a little bit different than what we've seen with Mike Zimmer But there's one team that there's just natural regression that's likely to hit and that's Baltimore You know, I don't think people fully realize what happened in Baltimore last year offensively from like a pass-rate standpoint and a passing volume standpoint, you know last year they had a lot of more negative game scripts than what we've seen with Greg Roman as offensive coordinator and Lamar Jackson that quarterback obviously Lamar was hurt for some of the season as well But they had bad injuries in their secondary and on defense and that led to a lot of negative game scripts They ended up running by far the most plays in football like by far more than what we've seen You know three or four plays per game more than what we'd seen during this Greg Roman Lamar Jackson era and so on top of that They were also a little bit more pass-heavy in terms of pass rate than what we've seen with Lamar Jackson and Greg Roman You know the two years prior to last year with those two guys. They were 30 second in the league and pass rate They were they were the run heaviest team in football last year. They were 23rd So they were a little bit more pass-heavy, but because they ran so many plays They were ninth in the NFL and pass-a-temp last year Which is wild to think about in this Lamar Jackson era and this offense They had the ninth most pass attempts in the NFL It's crazy because like everyone's talking about marquise brown and fantasy because he's an early earliest round pick etc He's going from a team that actually threw more pass attempts last year to one who threw fewer When he goes from from baltimore to arizona. And so, you know, we shouldn't expect this to continue For baltimore year over year, you know, it's a team that's naturally going to regress from a plays run standpoint I think they they'll probably run four or so fewer plays per game this year You know, they have jk dobbins who's looking at least a little bit healthier. He's definitely healthier than he was last year Um, and so they might just lean on the run game a little bit more naturally They don't have hollywood brown anymore. So that's another reason why and the defense is healthier So they could see better game scripts overall. They have their running backs more intact It just makes sense that we would see them regress a little bit back towards What we saw the first two years when lemar jackson was the full-time starter So that's one team and then another team within that same division Who I think is going to dramatically change from a from an offensive philosophy standpoint is pittsburgh Uh, pittsburgh the last two seasons has been the second most pass heavy team in the nfl Only tampa bay has been more pass heavy and it's because they've been running this offense with this horrible offensive line The statue in ben roethlisberger under center, uh, and he's just trying to get the ball out quick He's been first in time to throw over the last couple of years He's not been sacked that that often and now you get the quarterback change and really the quarterback change They're going to go to a quarter even if the quarterback isn't good or effective They're they're moving to a quarterback that fits the mac canada scheme a lot better Who can roll out who's more mobile?  They they signed mitzger biskey. Who's a mobile quarterback? They draft kenny pickett who's a mobile quarterback He's not, you know, they're neither of them are trail ants But they're both guys who can escape the pocket and create with their legs And so I think we're going to see the stealers then as a result of that, you know Have just a different philosophy in general They're not going to want to lean on their quarterbacks either as much probably as they did with ben roethlisberger And so I think the offense just going to look a lot different Hopefully the offensive line is a little bit better because they did make at least some moves But still probably going to be one of the worst in the league Um, but you know overall, I think we're going to see the stealers lean more naji harris And this is one of those teams too, you know, mike tommons never had a losing season in the nfl It's one of those teams where you know from a game script perspective the defense is good enough We could probably expect them to at least be in games And so it's not a situation like seattle where they want to run the football and they just can't I think the stealers could hypothetically, you know, just be a lower score You know have be in some lower scoring games Uh and really force the run a little bit because the defense is actually decent And it's important to keep those philosophical changes in mind Not just for these season long player props, but also once we get to week one Keep that in mind with baltimore pittsburgh too because that'll be applicable to You know russia bateman yardage props and stuff like that. So keep that in mind for weekly props as well Well, we've had you on the show in the past jj. You have absolutely nailed the yardage leader categories over on fanglia derrick henry and nick chub Whatever year that the first year was and they were one too in league and rushing for that year so Finding guys who will blow up seems to be a strength for you for this year fandalizad's up Not just yardage leaders, but also touchdown leaders. So Where are you finding value across those markets at fanglia sportsbook? Yeah, so I have three, um, you know, I I think that uh with what I just talked about with pittsburgh We could see, you know more rushing yards for that team in general You know the stealers aren't a great team, uh, but like I said, mike tom has never had a losing season I think they're philosophically they're gonna want to run the football Naji harris right now is plus 1800 to lead the nfl In rushing, you know, he was that that's ninth on fandal sportsbook at the position Right now. He's fourth in my projections You know in terms of rushing yards, uh total rushing yards You know volume is really the thing that's going to drive something like this It's not really efficiency that's going to drive it. I mean obviously, you know You want efficiency and you likely will need a decent yards per carry rate to lead the nfl in rushing But really, you know, if one of the top guys misses a game Like a jonathan taylor or derek henry or someone like that Then all of a sudden it's not crazy to think that that naji harris would be able to do it And then the other thing with naji is that the stealers don't have a backup running back I mean they do but not a good one, right? I mean it's benny snell right now I still think the stealers are in play to maybe take advantage of a of a team's running back depth chart right now When they cut, uh, some of these running backs to sign one of those running backs and that guy might be their number two But regardless, you know right now as it stands the stealers are entering the season With benny snell as their their rb2 and you know, you know, anthony mcfarland there too and such but no one who is scaring you So I think, you know, they can say what they want about naji harris not seeing the same exact workflow that he did last year I do think that they might limit his snaps a little bit, but at the end of the day Um, you know, I could see them maybe limiting his receiving snaps more than I could see them limiting his rushing snaps So I'm gonna I'm gonna lean into naji harris there at plus 1800 To lead the league in rushing. Um I also from a receiving perspective I think that dj more at plus 3000 is an unbelievable value right now That's tied for 13th unfandall sports book. My projections right now have him at seventh In in receiving, uh, you know, I think more is really interesting because he's just been really efficient throughout his his career From a yards per target standpoint last year was his lowest season in yards per target at 7.1 But he was at 10.1 the year before that his career yards per target is 8.7 That's way above the league average because he's a really good wide receiver You know, that number generally does regress year over year a little bit But if you're looking at last season and that 7.1 number it wouldn't shock me if from a projection standpoint and from a Market standpoint, you know, they're weighing that a little bit more than what they would weigh What he did previously potential quarterback upgrade probable quarterback upgrade in baker mayfield Negative game scripts in carolina because they're not going to be a very good team You know and since his rookie season dj more has seen target shares of 22.4 percent 23.4 percent and last year 28.2 percent So if he's able to continue and maintain that kind of target share I don't think it'll be as high this season because cmc will be healthy But regardless even if he can get to a 27 percent target share if he's efficient enough He at least has a chance in this in this offense and on this team where they should see some negative game scripts Um, you know to to really put up great receiving numbers. So that's my pick for receiving yards and then I got one more for you I like russell wilson that plus 1600 to lead the nfl in passing that russ cook. Let's go.  You want them throwing at the goal line and in the red zone? This should be a more pass-heavy scheme for him The broncos now have nathaniel hack it as head coach who was the offensive coordinator for the packers from 2019 to 2021 Now I understand they had erin rogers. So take this all with a grain of salt But russell wilson's still a very very good quarterback.  That's at the goal line. So that's over the last three years They've thrown the ball at the goal line more than any other team or at least tied for and not only that But they're second they were second in pass rate The only team that was higher at the goal line in pass rate has been jacksonville over the last three years Which is crazy because green bay has been a good team Which means that you know, they haven't really been trailing and they're throwing at the goal line Because this is just what they want to do You know some of that again some of this might just be an erin rogers thing But look at what russell wilson has done historically He's had insane touchdown rates year after year after year because he too is aggressive closer to the end zone So I think that you know, this offense is awesome I'm really excited to see them But I think russell wilson at plus 1600 right now is a really good bet to throw the most touchdowns And they've got some great red zone bodies too between albert wavenham Coral and sudden typically pretty good down there as well. So that's that's exciting I'm curious. So does the terrible corny. Let's ride tagline Is that a boost up in your projections for us or because I feel like that's like at least a 5% decrease of our building line Yeah, look, I mean like the the cornball factor is always there for for rus in my projection. I guess that's big No, you're right. It's all that's big. Yeah, okay. That makes a lot of sense. Okay So you mentioned the touchdown numbers rus for wilson I want to talk about individual player props as well starting with russian because I think that you were talking about regression and The regression piece is going to be biggest in the touchdown markets I'm curious if you found any individual touchdown props You liked or if we're sticking with the yardage here because the the touchdown one intrigued me I don't know a lot about it. That's why I'm asking you but an individual player prop standing up for you Over a fan dual sports book. Yeah, look, you know, if you look at rachad penny right now He has an over under of 799 and a half rushing yards If you look at his situation He has one of the worst offensive lines in football He has the worst quarterback situation in football and his team has one of the worst team totals in football So i'm going to take the under with rachad penny getting to about 800 rushing yards The other thing with rachad pennies. He's not in every down back. He wasn't utilized that way at all last year You know, even when he was dominating in fantasy football and dominating Even you know on the ground in real football get eight targets last year rachad penny did that was one of the the lowest rush attempts to One of the highest rush attempts to target rates that we've seen from 100 plus attempt running back over the last decade And so that's bad because if there's a negative game script for this offense Then rachad penny is not going to be on the field. Um, and so, you know, you do want three down backs You know, even for for props like this because uh, you know, even when teams are trailing They still run the ball sometimes they're not just only throwing the football And so if that's the case you can you can obviously gobble up more rushing yards and such But i'm just worried about how game scripts are going to go for this really not good seattle team And then on top of that they went out and they drafted kenneth walker and kenneth walker is a great runner I mean, you know, you can question how he how he looked as a prospect from a receiving perspective But it's really tough to question what he is as a runner Um, and so he's sort of a redundant piece to rachad penny where we could see a scenario where pennies phased out Penny's not used nearly as much, you know down the stretch and he hasn't been able to stay healthy either throughout his career So there's just a lot going against rachad penny. Don't think he's going to maintain his 6.3 yards per carry rate year over year Um, I just think there's a lot of reasons to take the under here and when i'm looking for an under I'm looking for paths to an under. I want to find different routes to having that under hit you mentioned Uh, the fact that he could get I mean he's any running back and get hurt. So that's always in play The kenneth walker factor whether be he outplays him or they're You know, they're a two-in team late in the year and want to go look at kenneth walker with rachad penny being in a contract year You know, they may want to do that as well There's a lot of routes routes to an under here. I think that makes a lot of sense with regards to a shot penny Uh, what about receiving props? Were you finding value over there? Yeah, I have one I usually don't like taking overs that much with player props But there's one that I think is pretty glaring and it's t higgins His over under right now is at a thousand yards a thousand and a half yards You know, like I said, I hate going with overs But the bangles, um, and not only that the bangles have some some passing regression coming this year burrow led the league last year in yards per attempt and it was one of the best yards per attempt rates of all time You know, understandably, they have some of the best weapons in football. They have a much improved offensive line That's another reason to just sort of think that the regression, you know, it might happen But it might not be as severe as what we would otherwise see But higgins right now for me and again, I project generally healthy seasons for these guys So, you know take that with a grain of salt, but he's projected for 1150 yards in my projections right now So even accounting for a small injury he could hypothetically miss two games and still get to that 1 000 yard mark Maybe he could even miss three games if he's very efficient Or if we see like an a jamar chase injury or something and then more targets are funneled Uh t higgins way, but you know last season higgins actually average a higher target share per game than jamar chased it Um, you know, he just missed time and jamar chase didn't miss that the same amount of time So, you know, I do think that chase is going to naturally see a little bit more love this year as a second year guy As opposed to a first year guy, and you know, he's not rookie anymore more experience all that But t higgins is probably a lock to see at least a 22 target share in that offense And it's an offense that should be explosive that should be good I think getting to 1 000 yards should be pretty easy for such a talented guy I think the important thing with them too is they were very conservative last year I think in large part to conserve joe burrow at coming out that acl and You talked about potentially baltimore and pittsburgh be more run heavy I think since that he could be more past heavy despite the fact They are a good team just because they were so conservative at times last year that benefit t higgins the benefit Hayden hurst like everybody associated with this team could get a boost up because of that That is jj zacker race and you can find him on twitter at late round. You can be qb You can find him at the late round fantasy football podcast and late round dot com JD before let you go where people find your Season long draft guide if they want to get some help with their upcoming season long grass Yeah, it's all over on late round dot com You know, I I I did this draft guide to not necessarily just throw a bunch of player profiles at you Which is fine. You know, that's there's definitely a place for that But I'd say like 90, you know 85 of this guide is more game theory focused and strategy focused So you're gonna understand a little bit better how to attack your draft and not just picking the right players So I do have players to target players to avoid and my tiers and all that kind of stuff in there But a lot of it is more game theory stuff. So hopefully people dig it. I think people have so far It's all over on late round dot com Alrighty, I'm excited to have you back on the show as well to talk about in season player props 2 that is going to be a blast I have a fantastic weekend jj and thank you for coming on the show. Thanks man. Appreciate it All right, again, check out jj on twitter at late round qb. You'll hear him again in season It's going to be a fun time. That is all we got here for today on covering the spread Thank you all for joining us for this first week of daily shows We'll be back with you on monday to talk about some major league baseball Make sure you're subscribed on the to the covering the spread podcast feed wherever you get your podcast And i'm on twitter at jim saunas as well. Have a fantastic weekend. We'll talk to you all next week This has been covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network


Speaking of, we got a special treat for you all this week for Python on hardware. It's something that would normally be part of our top secret segment, but it's not. It's going to be part of this segment. So first up, I have to remind everyone, please go to it for daily. It's a completely separate website that has nothing to do with your shopping account. We do not spam. We do not remarket. We don't even use tracking on the sites. We don't need to. We have Google Analytics on our store, but we're trying to un-Googleify and untrackify anything we can where we don't need something. We don't use that information. So why store and why track people? For a different daily, you can sign up anytime, cancel. This is, I think, the only consistent Python on hardware newsletter. We have thousands of subscribers. Do check it out. We have a bunch of news. Evan was hinting at an RP2040 successor, a new PyCompute module. These are all things that you're going to run Python on. You can see some interesting things going on with the Python Software Foundation is like, hey, what do you mean open source authors might be liable for code and stuff like that? So they don't like that. You can check that out, the news stories. And then all the things that you expect, like projects that use CircuitPython and RP2040 and Raspberry Pi. You can check out the CircuitPython show, highlights who's on the show next. And then what things that we're doing with Playground, which is our place where people can post stuff, tons and tons and tons and tons and tons and tons of projects. Yeah, but this week, we're going to do some a little different. I'm going to ask Lady Aida to show off. This normally would be top secret, but this is kind of a big deal for us. This is a completely Python powered digital camera. Oh, hold on. User interface, yeah. Let me get rid of it. How do I get rid of the interface? There you go. Sorry. So this is our Python powered digital camera. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. So this is, I'm going to remove this.  Quick take? It's better than a quick take, though. It's 5K pixels. So it's got a 5 megapixel. A completely open source Python camera, I think the first and only. Yeah. It's got the OV5640, which we've been selling for a bit. This one has autofocus mode. You have microSD cards for storage. You can connect hardware and longer digital input or I squared C. It's got an ESP32S3 and it's got great CircuitPython support and also has hardware support for communicating with these cameras. There's a little spot here for the battery and the battery just sits nicely on top. On the back here, I have the protecting case on it, but there's four up-down, left-right buttons, okay, and select a little piezo. This is the shutter button. There's also a reset button and a hardware on off switch. And when it turns on, you'll see it boots into CircuitPython. And then the SD card won't be loose on the final version because I'm debugging and stuff. You can see it's taking the photo of what's underneath. And what's cool is that this has autofocus mode. So let's see if I can get it to, yeah. So you saw it'll be able to take close-up pictures of stuff. And then there's also going to be a LED ring light. And the idea is that you'll be able to do a lot of stuff. People have opened for more for their cameras. But if you want to write your own image filtering or you want to make a little gift camera or a JPEG camera, or you want to have something that connects to Wi-Fi or Bluetooth that you can control and you don't have to go through some third-party website, this is a Wi-Fi-capable chip. And so it can send data, like it can SMS you an image or upload it to Adafruit.io or it can take commands from the internet over Bluetooth. So I think it'll be kind of neat to have like fully open source, like true open source firmware camera that you can code up yourself. Yeah. And for the folks out there that are like, well, you know, I really want to own my electronics. I want to know what metadata is being put on photos. Well, I don't think there's another another thing that comes close. You could build it yourself. You can upgrade it. You can do all the things. I think because cameras are so good, you got to go the other direction. Yeah. And this has something kind of retro. Let me see. It can do some mode. So that's going to come through. So this is inverted mode. It's it's very bright. The screen's right. Yes, this is like inverted. Yeah, make your own filters. You could do all sorts of neat stuff.  I didn't have the latest firmware. There's a dither mode that just got added to like a Game Boy camera, like sepia tones. And then, you know, using micro lab, which is like NumPy. You can add your own filters if desired. Yeah, like your Instagram filter style. So, you know, one thing that I'll say about things like this is I don't know how we're going to teach the next generation of product designers to make things without stuff like this, because everyone's kind of growing up with like, here's a, you know, 30 megapixel camera in my phone. Someone has to learn how to make these things. And it's not just going to be like Apple and Google forever. It's a good idea to understand how these things are made and teach other people to do it. So this is like part of that curriculum or journey where it's like, you learn how to make your own keyboard.  Then you learn how to, we're going to have a, you know, a cell phone, Python powered cell phone or something like that. You learn how to make your own Python powered digital camera. So all this stuff that you'd be able to build on your own and understand it.  But it is the thing that you're going to be able to. Cool, like retro, like Holga-esque, you know, like, again, Apple quick take stuff. This isn't to use as a USB camera. You can actually, what's interesting, you can have it act as a Wi-Fi camera. It actually doesn't have, you need to have USB high speed to do like a true webcam, but you can transfer data across. It just isn't like, it doesn't show, you know, we try to have it show up, but you can have it act as a VNC, I think, and then you can have it appear on your computer. And then one day, you know, of course, it's chips evolve and stuff like that. You know, we tend to have a platform. This will be like the Memento platform for cameras, open source cameras. So somebody asked about half press for shutter. So it doesn't, it's not, there's no, we couldn't afford to get like a custom half press button, but if you hold down, it autofocuses. So long press is autofocus and short press is snap. Yeah. But you can change that, right? You can, we can do whatever you want. So I think this just kind of fills what, again, one of the boxes. You can kind of make your own computer that's Python-powered. We've had projects like that. You can make your own keyboard that's Python-powered. Now what about your own digital camera that's Python-powered? So we think this would be a neat thing for schools, for just about everyone who's looking to say, here's the fundamentals of what a digital camera is. You can teach theory, like here's photons.  And here's how they make the image work. So we think this will be kind of cool to, to explore and we'll say, hello. Hi. Okay. That is our Python on hardware this week. Snap, snap. Delivered each week in your mailbox. I don't know where. Maybe all on native dealing. Okay, let's.


States make money off of child support. There's something called Title IVD, where let's say, you know, go to court, dad is ordered to pay child support for mom. You know, the state makes money off of this dad paying child support. The federal government reimburses the states, right, for collecting child support and dispersing it out.  It's greatly reduced or there's none. The more child support the state can reel in, the more the federal government pays the states.  All we want to talk about is dads who are not deadbeat, they're deadbroke.


Hello and welcome to the session. My name is Mansi and I am going to help you with the following question. The question says A, B, C, D is a parallelogram. The circle through A, B and C intersect C, D produced if necessary at E. Prove that A equal to E, D. We have to prove that this side is equal to this side. So let us start with the solution. Now in order to prove that A, E is equal to A, D, it is sufficient to prove that angle A, E, D is equal to angle A, D, E because if we prove that these two angles are equal then sides opposite to them will be also equal. Since A, B, C, E is a cyclic quadrilateral therefore we can say that angle A, E, D plus angle A, B, C is equal to 180 degree. We call this one, this happens because we know that in a cyclic quadrilateral the sum of opposite angles is equal to 180 degree. Now C, D, E is a straight line. So now E is a straight line and because this is a straight line so this implies that angle A, D, E plus angle A, D, C will be equal to 180 degree because we see that since this is a straight line so sum of linear angles will be equal to 180 degree we call this two. From one and two we have, one and two we have angle A, E, A, B, C is equal to angle A, D plus angle A, B, C because both of them they are equal to 180 degree. This implies that here angle A, B, C gets cancelled with angle A, B, C and we have angle A, E, D is equal to angle therefore angle A, E, D we have is equal to angle A, D, E and since these two angles are equal so sides opposite to them will be also equal and this implies that A, D is equal to A, E. Now this was what we were supposed to prove in this question. So I hope that you understood the question and enjoyed the session. Have a good day.


So we just bought this off Tiktok and checked this out. It's a pocket sized staff. Hey imagine pulling this out in a fight. If you're on Tiktok then you've definitely seen some really cool gadgets and you've probably wondered are they worth buying. Well today we pretty much bought every single cool gadget off the Tiktok and we're going to be testing them out and letting you guys know if they're worth buying or not. Before we begin, give this video a like if you like Tiktok and let's jump into the video. So this is the next really cool thing we bought because of Tiktok. So we heard if you bite into this bottle right here it's supposed to sound exactly like it does when you bite into a real apple. And we're going to see if that actually works or not. Wait what? Wait do it again. Dude! Ella are you good? Why is your face like this? What? Wait let me bite into it. Oh dude that is so cool. No Tokyo thinks there's food. That's awesome. Stop with that face. Stop. Guys this definitely works. I would definitely buy one and try it out for yourself. Alright guys let's move on to the next gadget. So this is a kitchen safe lock right here and basically he got it so he could lock away my food and help me get rid of my junk food addiction which I don't need. As you guys can see there's no timer on it right now which means I could eat the food right now. So if I really wanted Alex to lose weight how this safe would work is I would put a little timer right here. Set it to however long I want it and then you press down and it locks and you will not be able to open it until the timer is out. So therefore Alex won't be able to eat that donut right there. It's unbreakable. That's kind of cool. It's unbreakable?  So basically this is perfect for locking away any unhealthy snacks or food from your refrigerator. And talking about refrigerators here are the names on our refrigerator for this week.  Come on, come on. Alan, come on we need to get this seen in. Alan, come on. Alex, this is also perfect for when you can't stay off your phone. I need to film a scene. I need to text her. Did you actually lock it? Yeah I did. Alex, why didn't you actually lock my phone dude? My junk food addiction, your phone addiction, now we can get this seen in. Do we need to put Sean's hand in here so we stop the f***ing. So overall guys I would definitely buy this. It definitely works. Let's move on to the next gadget. So right here is another cool gadget that we bought because of Tiktok and check this out. Alright so you put a coin right here, click the button. What's it doing? Dude, what? I think it's so cute. So I would recommend getting one of these and you don't go around asking your friends to put a coin in. Hey Tanner, you got any coins? Come on Tanner, put a coin in. Those are my coins, what do you mean? Alright so yes, definitely get one and get rich. So this is another really cool gadget that we bought because of Tiktok and check this out. Hey don't buy it, don't buy it. It doesn't work, it doesn't work. It was supposed to be a tennis ball rebounder. Basically if you're lonely, you need someone to play with. This is the perfect gadget for you but it doesn't work. So this is another really cool gadget we bought because of Tiktok and basically it's a bottle cap opener except it's also a cap gun. Alright guys so check this out. Where'd it go? It's underneath here which means it can also be served as ammunition. To shoot your friends. Which is perfect because your guys is there for this week, what's for us to prank. Three of our friends and we're gonna go do that now. Tanner you want a root beer? There you go man. I know you like root beer. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I got it. I can open it for you. Isn't that so cool? What? We're sorry. That's so cool guys. That's so cool. Sean can I give you something? Here, it's a root beer. It's up. Wait but no, I actually have a root beer to go with that. Alright hey, lucky for you Sean. I got a cap opener right here. Alright so check this out. Right here. Alright Sean, cheers. Yeah hey, we're sorry but they wanted us to do it. What are we supposed to do? Like three people though? Oh yeah, we were. Whoa. I already hit you.  So if you like pineapples, this next gadget is perfect for you. So this gadget right here is a pineapple remover and it's perfect because summer is right around the corner and pineapples is J-Way. Well hey, we're trying to get that summer body Alex, so we gotta get that out more. We gotta stop filming and start working out, right? So the first step is we gotta cut the very top of the pineapple. So let me look for something really sharp. What is that? Where are you going? Cut it, cut it. There you go. Alright, come on. Let's cut it, let's cut it right there. Hey, I'm not Brent. Brent could do this. There we go. Alright y'all, stokes right here. That was a very good one. Looks like your hairline now. We did the same thing.  Alright, and then you twist it. Oh, look at this. Oh my gosh, do you guys see it? It's getting cut. Summer is coming. It's winter. Alright guys, so it looks like I've reached the bottom of it. Let's pull it out. Oh! The final part is to release this top part right here. And here we go. Oh! The ice is here. Look at that. Summer's coming. This gadget is actually super handy. Because I love pineapples. The reason why I never eat pineapples is because I feel like they're so hard to eat. And with this gadget, this makes it so much easier. No, but I would definitely recommend getting one. And let's move on to the next gadget. Alright, so we're going to see if this works or not. And if I can land this bottle flip on my head in the first try, then you guys have to subscribe, okay? Alright, let's go. Here's your order. Thank you, thank you, thank you. What about a little tip? Driving this nice car. Can't do this. Alright Alex, I got your Chick-fil-A sauce right here. Oh wait, but where am I supposed to put it? It's going to get your new car dirty. Well hey, lucky for us, Alan. I saw this really cool gadget on TikTok and I decided to buy it. And it's a car sauce holder for your car. So it doesn't get your car messy? So how it works is you put this inside one of your air conditioning vents, like this, and now we put our Chick-fil-A sauce that we got from McDonald's inside a car. And now we put our Chick-fil-A sauce that we got from McDonald's inside a car sauce holder right here. And oh my god, wait, it's a perfect fit. Okay, here we go, Alan. Can it fit my sauce though? Uh-oh. Alright guys, check this out. Look at this. And now we're going to try the McDonald's fries inside the Chick-fil-A sauce. Hey, this is a life hack in its own because these fries taste better with the Chick-fil-A sauce, huh? But wait, it does. Get this and the Chick-fil-A sauce with McDonald's fries. We're putting you guys on something. Ten of diamonds. Jack of diamonds. Hey, why are you acting all mysterious? What do you have? Look at the... Hey, you cheated. Shuffle back up. Yeah, you cheated. Shuffle it back up. Come on, go. I just told you guys, I don't know how to shuffle. Well, lucky for you, Alan. I have the card shuffler right here. Wait, the one we got because of TikTok. Yes, and this is actually the next gadget that we're going to be testing for you guys. And here we go. Half on this side, half on the other side. Afterwards, you just rotate this part and the card should be shuffled. Oh my god. What did this say? Oh my god. Wait, that's actually so cool. No way. Open up the slot right here and we got our cards. Guys, I would recommend getting this. This one was a success. So, on to the next gadget. So we can all agree that this is an empty toothpaste container right here, right? I mean, I don't see any toothpaste left.  Okay. Probably not a year. Or a few weeks, actually. With this new TikTok gadget right here that we're going to be trying out right now, this is supposedly supposed to help you squeeze out that last bit of toothpaste that you're just throwing away. And we're going to test that out to see if it actually works or not. So you start it out by removing this pin right here and then you insert the bottom of the toothpaste through the pin, like this. And then we put it back at the very bottom of this gadget right here. There we go. All right. And now we're going to continue rotating this and see how much toothpaste we can squeeze out of there. Okay, here we go. Oh my god. Wait a second, guys. Look at this. All the toothpaste from the bottom has now moved to the top and I was going to go out and buy new toothpaste, but we need a new toothbrush to have new toothpaste. What is this? Dude, we got toothpaste for weeks now. Look at that. Oh my gosh. Now you need to brush your teeth because you're rough. This smells really bad. Come on, Brian. Now I'm not using your toothbrush. Well, yeah, as you guys can see, this works really well. So I would recommend getting one. And now let's move on to the next gadget. The next gadget that we bought was an ear cleaner, except this one has a camera on it. And apparently this is a super safe way to clean your ears. Okay, sit down. All right. We're just going to need you to sit back, relax while we clean your ears. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Dude, that's so cool. Wait a minute. Oh my gosh. Your ears are actually kind of clean. Oh my gosh. Imagine a spider just pops out. Hey, hey, hey. You're about to scare us. Hey, that's my worst fear. Stop. Hey, stop. You're scaring me, Alex. Don't hurt my ear. Okay. Oh, wait. It's actually getting earwax, huh? Let's do the nose. Let's do the nose. Oh, no. Wait, you gotta clean those too. You gotta clean? Dude, wait a second. This camera's high quality. We're going to hide this for a show before he sticks this up to the s***. Hey, no. Try another ear. Here we go. Careful. Be careful, step dog. Dude, what is going on? Keep going, because it kind of feels good. I would definitely recommend getting this. This is a very, very cool gadget. I feel like this is low-key satisfying too, because I feel like after that, I may want to hear a color. So the next gadget that we have is this laser keyboard right here for your phone. And let me read the instructions real quick. It says, use on a flat surface. Okay, wait. I know just the perfect person for that. Hey, Brett. We're reading this instructions manual, and it says we need to use a flat surface. So is it cool to be using it on your butt real quick? You're funny. All right. We'll see you tomorrow, Brent. See you tomorrow. All right, bye. All right, so we may just have to do this tomorrow. No, I'm kidding. All right, here we go. Here we go. All right, let's turn it on. Whoa! What? It actually worked. Wait, what? Like and is that? Is that saying what I think it's saying? 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Ashik has a question here. Can you restrict editing access for certain columns of a SharePoint online list? Some users should have full access. Some others should be able to edit or view only certain allowed columns. Yes. The short answer is no. Microsoft should have done this two decades ago, in my opinion. The same thing is having secured views by different ones. But yeah, if they have access to the item, they have access to the item that you can't change those columns. However, you can, using content types, hide and show columns from a form so they wouldn't be able to see it. So if you create content types and only display in the content type, the ones that they should be able to see or edit, that might be a workaround. You could do that or you could create a view. I mean, if it's different for different people, but if you have constituencies, you can always go and create a view for those constituencies. So again, you're not locking them out. It's just the same thing here. They're just not seeing the other columns that they shouldn't have access to. Right. But then if they go and edit the item, they're still going to see those values unless they're a content type. Right. So that's a little bit different. The only way to go old school and go back, do your Excel and lock columns really, it's really about going backwards if they really got to have that. But yeah, that doesn't solve it. It's more hopefully lists will come forward. There are some third-party tools that have figured it out though. So that's why I'm curious why Microsoft SharePoint team hasn't been able to do that because I can name two that have asked me to do demos for them that do do that. They allows them to secure a column, to create secured views based on the role in the list, not out of the box with SharePoint. So you're saying you don't want to name those other products? I was going to say, I'd like to know. Well, I'm not sure if we wanted to. Does AppPoint have a product that does that? I have no idea. I'm not sure yet. So the other one is Quizcom. Quizcom does that. They've got a great tool that does a lot more, gives you a lot more capability within your lists than out of the box. I get nothing for telling you that. No monetary compensation for mentioning them. But yeah, I can't remember the other one on top of my head.


Hello everybody, E here. E here. Welcome back to another book review. Today we are talking about Leavers Book 8 in the Charlie Parker series and that is The Lovers. I didn't love it to a pun intended. I didn't love it. This is another one just like The Reapers where the plot did absolutely nothing for me. I can't remember a single thing about it. Unfortunately I read these four books, The Reapers, The Lovers, The Whispers, and The Burning Soul. I read them back to back to back, hopping back and forth between the paperbacks and the audiobooks. George Gwinnall, it's funny because it's broken up. I think this one isn't by Gwinnall. I'm probably saying his name wrong. But I think the next one is. It was very odd that the narrator had changed. The only reason I'm talking about this is because I don't have a whole lot to say about this book. But I'm OCD about keeping a series going, even though it sometimes takes me forever to do it. I probably read this one three, almost four months ago. I can't really remember. But I do know that this is one of the very, very few Connelly books that absolutely dragged for me. I didn't care about the plot. I didn't even care about Angel and Lewis and Charlie in this one. Did absolutely nothing for me. Because I can't remember the plot, I'm going to read the back of the book for you and I'm going to tell you what I remember, if I remember. I'm just going to be completely honest with you whether or not I remember those aspects or not. Stripped of his license, I do remember that right off the bat. I do remember he lost his license. Charlie Parker takes a job. In fact, I think I only remember that is because it happens the book before the Reapers. If I'm wrong about that, let me know down there in the doobly-doo. Charlie Parker takes a job in the Portland Bar alone and directionless. He faces at last a shadow he has lived with since childhood. What made his father... Oh, I do remember this one. Okay.  His quest leads him back to the little New York town where he grew up to the mist... I don't remember that at all. Him going back to the town where he grew up. This leads him back to where he grew up to the mysterious history of the NYPD. Don't remember that at all. To the existence of secret friends and hidden enemies. But that's all of his books, I think. Like Merrick was kind of like a secret friend instead of a hidden enemy kind of deal. And every single one of his books has a hidden enemy. And waiting in the shadows as they have been throughout Charlie's life are a man and a woman with only one purpose to bring an end to his very existence. I don't remember that. But I think they are the... I think there's a couple that are murdered the beginning of the book and then it ends up... I don't want to talk about it. But the lovers is twofold in the story. I guess it says in the back, a man and a woman with only one person to end his... So I guess you know right off the bat that the couples are killers too. It's in the description. Whatever. Anyways. But this one, like I said, man didn't do anything for me. I've kind of been wishy-washy on whether or not to give this two stars or three stars. I try to give every book that I didn't outright hate or dislike, like actively disliking. This is just okay by Goodreads standards. That's two stars. By my standards, it's more like three stars because I still enjoyed the characters. I still enjoyed Charlie and Angel and Lewis on screen. This is nowhere near my favorite from them. But I still... I'm still able to get through it without complaining. I guess that's the best way I can say it. Whereas where a one and a two star, I complained throughout the entire thing. I didn't really complain with this one. I was just kind of, man. So maybe 2.5 stars. Let's go with that. So yeah. That's The Lovers by John Connolly. Have you read it? Did you love it? Please let me know why you loved it. Did you not love it? Let me know. I keep saying love because that time it wasn't intended. But whether or not you loved it or hated it, let me know down there in the doobly-doo. Let's have a discussion about those things. But until next time, I have been E, you have been U. This has been another book review. I'll talk to you guys later. Bye bye.


A ton of great stuff to chew on there. So I'm going to call Colleen Chen. When I was in government, I spent a little time working on reforming the patent system. Most of what's interesting that I know about the patent system, I learned from Terry Fisher. But when I was sort of thinking about the patent system and the America Invence Act, I started researching who are the people who are writing interesting things about the patent system. I came across the scholarship of Colleen Chen, which I just thought was so fascinating that I started to call her up and ask her for advice when I was working in the White House. And that went so well. She gave me so much insight that when I was leaving the White House, and I had an opportunity to try to help choose who would take over my portfolio, I said there's one and only one person that I want to see in the White House, and that's Colleen Chen. And luckily, they listened to me. And she took on the portfolio I'd been working on. And in her time there, she succeeded beyond my imagining. So I was telling Christine the other day that I'm the chair of the Colleen Chen fan club. So I'm going to turn it over to Colleen to be the last speaker on this panel. And then I want to leave a few minutes at the end so that we can talk a little bit amongst the panel before we have our discussion sessions. Thank you, Quentin, for that overly generous introduction. And Quentin succeeded in getting me to commute across the country for 16 months between California and DC. And he did it again last night. I took a red eye to be here. But I think that says something about his power and the power of the ideas that are going to be discussed today to get people to come out. A lot of people here could be doing many things at this time, have a lot of responsibilities. So I hope that we take the opportunity to spend this time and try to get some concrete next steps out. So I really appreciate the introductory remarks about what this convening is about and what we can actually achieve in a day, which I do think is possible. So I will speak as I am currently a professor at Santa Clara University School of Law. But I will draw upon my experience in the White House working as senior advisor, innovation, and intellectual property. And I will note that my successor, or a successor of Quentin and my successor, Nancy Weiss, also registered to be here. So I'm not sure if she'll come later, but she's aware of the convening. And I know if you raise your hand if you're in the US government, are there any folks? There are a couple of people in the room here. So it was great to see Peter and Emily. So it's terrific to see some of the people here that are engaged on this in the databases. And many of you are. So I'm just going to focus on one campaign on the innovation side. Quentin talked about three different objectives for today. And this is something I was part of in 2014. And I think what's relevant to it is not so much the substance of what I was involved in. I'm not a scientist. I'm not a public health specialist. I happen to be somebody who really cares about access to medicines and works on patents. But this was much more about the process of coming up with something among a group of people who all have awareness of different aspects of what's urgent within their area. How can we figure out what can be something to be worked upon? And the process we used to develop this initiative, which was around development of pediatric formulations of AIDS drugs. So if you have kids or if you've ever tried to babysit anybody and try to give them medicine, you know that the flavor is very important and that if it's not something that they're going to want to take, they're very resistant. So just imagine for a young mother who has a child who has AIDS and is trying to keep this child alive and wants to give the medicine and doesn't have the right dosage, has to feed them something that tastes bitter. This is a life and death proposition. And the gap in terms of thinking about the market because it's so fragmented with over 3 million children with AIDS, but only a quarter of them by 2014 when we started this initiative, being on treatment now or up to a third, this is an urgent problem. But it was a huge market gap as well because there weren't sufficient incentives to manufacturers either originator or generic to overcome the challenge of coming up with the formulations, getting them registered, and then getting them in the field and distributed and dispersed. So what was also important about this kind of problem is that it was discreet because at the time that we started working on it, which was right after the African Leaders Summit in the White House, we tended to work by events, we knew we had three or four months until World AIDS Day on December 1, 2014. And so we thought, what can we look at within that period of time and try to focus on? Now there are a number of things that we looked at also that we worked on very hard that we didn't make any headway in. So it was a matter of trying to find the right kind of bite-sized initiative that we could launch realistically within that period of time. And it could have taken many forms. We worked on, for example, trying to look at unified, harmonized registration, which is something many people in this room probably have worked on over the years within the African continent. And this is obviously a much multi-year, maybe approaching decade project that's going on. And we said, well, can we kind of give some infusion to give a lot of energy to that? We thought that was a huge issue. But there wasn't anything that could come together in that period of time. So we put that one aside. That would have been potentially higher impact if we could have done something there. But this is something where we're trying to look around and see, well, what can we do in the present? And I will note that we started that initiative again around August of 2014, knowing that December 1, 2014 was going to be coming up in a couple months. We're right now only in June. So we have six months if we wanted to focus on December 1, 2016 and try to see something come about just to keep that. And the back of the mind. So what happened after we decided, let's think about this issue. And a thing, another important part of this, obviously, was that we were working with the intergovernmental working group within the US government, especially looking at the needs of PEPFAR, which in that position of procuring and wanting to buy product that they thought would be a high impact, was a very important constituent and trying to think about what is going to help them as people who are actually delivering product give them make them more effective. And we had the great, I think, also support of NGOs like the Medicines Patent Pool. And I'm really happy that Ethan Guillen now with MSF is here. He was a wonderful partner, as well as a number of the other pharmaceutical companies, again, also people from other parts of the government who were encouraging us, people who were thinking about innovation more broadly, not just in the space, but in general, how do you solve problems? And how do you actually incentivize people to do things when you don't have a pool of resources? And often when you're thinking about the perspective of what is your particular thing that you can add? We have a lot of academics here who can write things, who can give good feedback in the press, can write op-eds, who can do deep articles. We have those who are in corporations, who have purse strings, who have boards they have to account to, but that also have huge resources, amazing scientists. People actually can get things done and in the market. We have strategists who are at foundations and at Harvard and elsewhere who have a bunch of different networks that they can tap in to get things done. Now, what did we have at the White House? We didn't have a budget, it had no budget to do anything there, didn't have any particular deep expertise within our kind of group within the chief technology officer's office, but what we did have is the ability to call on people, to ask them for advice, to convene them, people of diverse backgrounds who may otherwise not always want to be talking to each other, maybe enemies in the public eye and to may we have people here who are openly critical of each other in the public, but we're here together in this room to discuss what is possible. So being able to do that and also being able to, this is of course different special thing about the White House, but being able to use the bully pulpit to raise up and give public recognition to efforts that we think are important. So in that case, pharmaceutical companies wanted to work in pediatrics, but what's their incentive? What's their incentive to do that when they barely can make a little margin, maybe working with generics or they are getting criticized for a lot of things from the government? What is their incentive to do something in this room? Of course it is, there's, you can hear from the motivation of our speakers already that there is a lot of personal passion and also probably culture in the companies that want to do the right thing, but beyond that, what can you provide as additional incentive? So in the White House, we could provide a platform for whether it's just writing a blog post, celebrating achievement and try to provide some kind of incentive for this to happen. So ultimately, through a number of convenings, we looked at things like, again, think about what are the incentives? And we've heard about things like the Access to Medicines Initiative that Gilead was number one there. We've heard about things like different awards that can be given. I don't remember what was mentioned today, but we had again this opportunity to say, we have this platform on December 1st and we're going to try to have something that's announceable in that timeframe. So we thought about, well, we can give public recognition, we can do things like also have prizes. What if we do a prize for the company that comes up with kind of pediatric formulations of these three key fixed-dose combinations that we need to see in the market? Should we do a prize? And how do we price it? Or should we do, do we know exactly who needs to do what and so do we need to actually then have pooled procurement and say, if you make it, we will buy it, right? We want to get the purchasers, whether it be Chai or PEPFAR, or others to say we express this treatment target, though if we can see this happen in the market, we're going to buy it. Is that what we need to solidify? So in each case, it's trying to come up with what is kind of the critical thing that will then catalyze the actions that need to happen, whether it be incentive in terms of, oh, what we need to know is that if we make the drug, it's actually going to be going through the regulatory authorities in a clean and smooth way and also get into the field, that's the kind of information we need to prioritize and put time into that. What is the issue? So in the end, on December 1st, we announced this commitment to action kind of framework, and we weren't quite there yet, right? So we announced sort of a, here are the seven or eight principles of what's going to happen in terms of the goals to accelerate the development of these child adaptive formulations. We're going to publish reviews of this. We're going to have these awards, and we'll have regulatory approval that's going to be rapid and go on. We didn't have any specific commitments from this particular government to say we will approve it, but that's where we wanted to go. So we announced as much as we could then. I'm glad that Ethan is here. He can talk a little bit about what's happened since that time. It's a still ongoing project, but I want to stop here before I turn over to Ethan just to talk briefly about it from his side. It's that I think, again, what is important for our perspective here is to think about what can be, how can we use action enforcing events like an announcement opportunity, and again, where people in the government here, we have potentially the opportunity to at least raise this as an opportunity to lift up, but if we think about things like how do we create more sustainable, non-exclusive licensing partnership with generics? How do we replicate the Gilead model? If that is the goal, if we think that that is what every country, company should be doing, is creating this partnership, we want to ask why aren't more companies using this model? Should they be, and how do we get there, right? We saw there was an HBS case study, I think, that Greg flashed up here that's going to be going on with respect to Gilead. Is that what we need to try to help other companies who may want to replicate it, understand how to do the generic kind of partnerships, inter-country differential parsing, we talked about co-artem, three or four pricing points. If we feel like that is very important to scale or to explain how do we make the packaging be very efficient and help deal with these issues, is there stuff that can be translated? Does there need to be more awareness or do we need to fund certain things there? In each of these cases, or if we're talking about innovation, the third kind of platform here, releasing research failures, what is the kind of critical thing there that needs to happen? So hopefully some of that work can be done and discussed in small groups. So before I end, let me pass it over to Ethan to talk briefly again as our external validator. Keep things honest and I'd like him to comment as well. Hi, thanks, Khalid. I wasn't actually sure if I was going to speak, so I'll just be one second. Just to say that I do work with doctor stop orders, I'm here speaking in my sort of independent capacity today and I'm not speaking about the medicines patent pool, though I used to work there. So we, at the medicines patent pool at the time, had just been putting together a pediatric HIV treatment initiative. And so that dovetailed quite nicely with what Colleen had been working on at the White House. And so an important element for us was making sure that there would be people to buy the drugs once they actually were developed to create an additional pull mechanism. So just to give the very quick update, since that time in 2014, the PHTI, so it's continuing in collaboration with PEPFAR and the other folks in US government, it's been a partnership of the medicines patent pool, DNDI, the drugs for neglected diseases initiative, the Clinton Foundation and UNITADE. And that partnership has been working on a number of WHO recommended pediatric combinations that currently do not exist. It's worth mentioning that most of the WHO recommended pediatric formulations do not exist in the dosing and formulations that they should. So what's happening is each of those partners have taken on different formulations that they are spearheading the development of in collaboration both with the originator companies, all of the originator companies who hold patents have put those patents into the patent pool to enable sale and development. They're also helping by providing scientific expertise as needed in putting the formulations together and then generics are doing the actual development of the formulations. So we have four important formulations that have been under development that should be registered within and on the market, I think all within the next couple of years. Registration's gonna happen depending on, some of them are more complicated than others, 2016 to 2018. For instance, Lepinivir-Rutanivir has a lot of issues with taste, as Colleen was mentioning, which are really actually quite difficult innovation problems to work around. But with this sort of partnership with everyone coming together, particularly putting patents in and then working with the generics who really do a lot of innovative work on their own, we have these four formulations currently under progress and one of the newest HIV drugs, Lepinivir-Rutanivir will start into that same path very soon for pediatrics, which is actually quite a bit faster than normally happens for pediatric formulations. Thank you. Thanks so much, Ethan. I'm gonna actually invite Greg and Hans and Prashant back up for a moment. We have a few more moments before we end this session. I wanna ask a couple of questions to the panel.


And I wish I could find a statistic on how much time is actually wasted in meetings. There's just too many meetings in general. I mean, some people hold meetings to plan the next meeting and it's like there has to be something more efficient that we could be doing. And you know, I pull a page out of my basketball playbook, you know, a coach at the beginning of a game is only given a finite number of timeouts. And those timeouts are briefed by design, they're either 30 or 90 seconds. So they don't have the luxury of calling a timeout whenever they want or holding a meeting with the team whenever they feel like it. You only get a few of them, so you have to use them wisely. And you have to be briefed by design because that's how long the timeouts are. And you best share something with your team that's going to put them back out on the court, you know, more apt to succeed. And I think businesses should follow a similar model.


Hey weirdos, Darron here from Marlar House on YouTube and you've probably been hearing quite a bit about the YouTube censorship thing that's going on, about how a lot of the advertisers are stepping away from YouTube because they don't want to support videos that have certain topics or certain comments or opinions. And I've been debating whether or not I should even talk about this, but I think I'm going to come down on the side of YouTube on this one. And I know a lot of YouTube creators are going to have big issues with me on this, but let me explain where I'm coming from. This mainly is for the people who are screaming censorship more than anything else. And a lot of those channels that are screaming that are right-wing, like right-leaning commenters, commentators, and so they're the ones that are screaming the loudest about how YouTube is trying to remove their free speech and everything. Well, let me bring you to my opinion here. I am a conservative with libertarian leanings, so that might cause some of you to go ahead and immediately unsubscribe to my channel. And if so, I'm sorry, but I'm not sure you can say that YouTube is assaulting free speech on this.  It's not being canceled from the platform. Your speech remains intact. It's still there. So, this debate, it's more of a debate about having your speech demonetized, all right? Not censored. And there's a big difference on that. Freedom of speech. You know, the First Amendment, we all scream it, especially when we think that we're being slighted, but you don't have a right to be paid for your opinions. You don't have a right to be heard. You only have the right to speak. People don't have to listen to you. They don't have to give you money for you to talk. All you have the right to do is say what you want to say. You're not guaranteed an audience for that. If advertisers, if they don't want to be associated with certain opinions, that's their right too. That's their freedom of speech. It works both ways, people. You cannot force a private company, which, by the way, YouTube is a private company. So the government really can't say you can't say this or can't say that. You can't support this or that. YouTube can do whatever they want. Now, whether or not we all agree and decide to leave the platform or not, well, that's capitalism. That's the way it all works. So they're going to have to make intelligent business decisions, but there's no legal reason that they have to monetarily support us. Nor is there, again, as I said, no reason that the advertisers have to legally support people and their opinions. So this is how capitalism works. This is how our country works. So if you want to be upset about it and say, hey, they're demonetizing my videos, well, I understand that. I mean, I'm dealing with it just like you are. But I'm also understanding that I don't want to be in the position that YouTube is in where I own a company and I'm forced to pay somebody else to do something that I don't agree with. I don't see that as being cool at all. So you shouldn't either.


published in August 2021. This article was authored by Humaira Imam, Tahira Imam, Saeeda Zara Abbas and others.