Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one.  It's a unique husband Check check check in this unique house. It's your boy. E ceo man.  And who is this other nigga, man?  I wanted to press pass I wanted to sit right back right there where Chris Brown was at So I was told by them that I could get in cuz they like your show is big if anybody can be in there You could then I was like, no, I don't know if I want to try it You know, I don't know if I want to try to reach out to them and see if I want to do that Because I probably wouldn't have went cuz I like watching the show like at home. Yeah, it's better to see on TV For sure. It's I can see everything going on her the common titles. Yeah, you know her None of the coming so you niggas was all at he done played came out to your song before Blessings and he done came out to yellow song. He done came out. Did he come out the trap boy? He did come out with trouble. Okay, so, you know, he comes out this time big tub That's my yeah that now he say motivate him to a championship, right? Like like what was it like when the whole thing first took off and I'm gonna ask you have pipe like like what when you first seen Earl coming out. Did you what did you think about? Come by this fight this fight. This is the fight that I'm trying to understand this fight When he came I mean when he was coming out ain't think nothing of it But I was just happy he came out with big eggs. Shit. I was Product or your daddy or somebody to them So it's from the beginning. Yeah, so when they when they was talking about like how he was looking and shot I didn't even notice that really I call it. Yeah, I say didn't I say it's coming up. No, yeah He called how long ago when I Did you know that's what he ain't doing it is him right now Like you can't deny that it's like if you deny that you hating on that man Wow Like straight up. Here's the only one that they mentioned when I say who hot in Dallas I be on that whole hot in Dallas right now. Can you I don't send Dallas, you know He's been on boss talk So I always ask who is the new hot and they say that nigga every time he's the guy a nigga show gay you Props when he's on because he was early on when I got him you I got him early in the game Like you said I wouldn't like my work.  I know you heard the Texas song It already had blew up like but to see him come out like that and know that you had your hands in the midst of that What how did that feel man?  He's supposed to do you think that he has longevity and I ask you that too Like in the game. Do you feel like he has that longevity?  So wow what you think? I mean with his trajectory he can't he gonna have longevity period just in Dallas cuz his Trajectory is already better than a lot of ours that are good who we love right now You see what I'm saying how he came out his first year is stronger than niggas first Four five you see what I'm saying.  I get it cuz I'm gonna tell you something a lot of niggas I always say this then came in here and sat in these various seats that y'all in and lied to me You know Like the budget didn't come through they didn't call me back and say hey either budget didn't come through and this happened They just it was one nigga came on here particularly you I called you about and he had a million followers a Million who's on my he had a million subscribe. Oh, not make me say Remember his name. Yeah, who is and I asked you was it legit? I called you I promise I called you I mean what happened to him is he still working I Haven't seen him in the past couple months or so so I Called you I called y'all say man. He got a million file I don't know him, but you know you've been in the game like you know me I'm gonna pick up that phone. Yeah, and and uh, you know you're gonna you're gonna check the Only get him on there see what see what it is, you know He didn't Came he said he had met, you know Drake texted him. So that was I remember stuff like I remembered all I call a nigga man. I said Drake didn't text him He got a million subscribers.  Yeah, it was something. It was a song. Yeah, they had some similarity. I remember that Yeah, that's a that's a song he had rather than that big step. Yeah Like I said, I just like I said I had a lot of people in them See I could go on the list goes on because I interviewed a lot of people You know what I'm saying? But a lot of times those people that I did interview outside of k-tron because I hadn't talked to them But just that's a big shout out actually, but just the fact of not hearing back from a lot of them Concerned me, you know what I'm saying or tagging me or putting me in, you know I mean to see the movement like I be wanting to see to see it come to that's what we in this for like So how hard is it man? Like in this in this music because I'm asking you to pull these projects off I'm very impressed with y'all, but I'm impressed with a Kiki for show for show like he keep coming like a label Well, you know I'm saying like this nigga come out with projects show You get it right like I interviewed him to I'm just looking at the ones who these projects cause money, right? Yeah, and we say we independent right so when you come at it with this independent game It's a different ballgame than coming at it with somebody backing So like how hard is it to do that? I ask you that like because you've been one I've seen it been impressed with I mean at the end of the day It's just to being it for a long time. It's hard Like don't let nobody tell you it's just easy like you got to just keep doing it over and over again. You got to keep What is it once you I say this once you reach a certain expectation You can't go no lower than that you got to keep tapping and keep tapping and keep telling it every time So a lot of these folks like you say they shoot they stuff out the water Like tapings if they want to cap they want to cap, you know, you see what I'm saying they they kept too hard Yeah, it's not even it's not even realistic Yeah, you know you shouldn't have people calling around to verify shit. It should just feel real to him like damn Oh, maybe I just think that makes it to you yet.  Wow, man, you know, I think When I look at like the city man And I look at just the people that come through the city of the things that happen in the city Man, do y'all think that the money stop here or do you think people come here get the bag and leave with it? No, I know I know a bunch of people give money with all the people that come in town and get money Okay, so I feel like it's the people that's complaining is just a people on the outside looking in cool So you saying that people when they come in to get the bag They don't just come here they go in they go and try to embrace the people who doing they work They touch the people that that it matter to touch the kids to become somebody that it matter to touch when they Get to your city what you think nah for sure what he just said niggas you shouldn't have to chase them They they tapping in with somebody shit might not be the person you want them to might not be you and nobody in your Yeah, but it's somebody camp getting that love and getting that that look in and I mean whatever they doing with it You know you like man if I had you can't look at other people on blessings You know I'm saying yeah, no, I get it man So I have paid you know, I have to ask you the difficult questions, you know what I'm saying like I love difficult Difficult questions like you you one of those guys man that I've I've seen I was you know I came at you about different instances with yellow early on that was my big thing when I first started the show like man What happened to you and yellow that was me. I'm like I'm gonna get about 30 views off this one right here Why come the niggas didn't stay with you and and where the camera at I remember the conversation I don't forget now. I might forget what day it was on but I remember the conversation So like like you guys and last time I was here You know you said you would never ask me to be in a movie But I'm you know because you had asked him and he did he told you no But this I heard through the grapevine that he just did some work with you at this bar Now I don't know cuz I wasn't there but I heard he said you had a nigga them.  You know what I'm saying. So like what what what I mean am I hearing this? Is this a lie or is this the truth now man? I got I got a yellow be easy behind the bars coming soon People didn't perform the song the song was he acting boozy?  It felt cool finally Appreciate you say man But man a lot of love for that whole movement man cuz y'all got a history together You know what I'm saying all three are all three are y'all you know what I'm saying So like like I mean was the chemistry there. Do you feel good about it? Oh, yeah?   Yeah, the nigga got this go.  It's my little brother He calls me and he tells me all kind of stuff So Mike fresh really supposed to be like mega big right now to me We all supposed to be You did great things and you don't did great Because he was the youngest he got picked on Hell no, no, no, I feel that cuz last time he was on here He told me say man, no man cuz he had said yellow's name and when he said your name Listen, I got a text. I see the text from yellow all kind of stuff came my way I'm like what the hell he was like man. I used to live with them I mean we all used to be over at the house together But he kind of felt like y'all didn't y'all didn't hold him down on that But I know he did cuz I talked to him and I told him I say if I ever get that nigga over a half I'm a check. I'm gonna tell him about it. You say you was the first one that told him to pick a camera up. Yeah I'm the first nigga you ever did a video Nigga that he could do videos And I showed the nigga you can do the video Say I'll add but that's a fact Like give me the story let's show this nigga First video that's it will crab it wouldn't it be real of course it was Man I had like a One of them love turquoise cameras that the bitches do take pictures Yeah, I had it going but yeah, that was my first The name of the song was polo down this was when When niggas was on a Ralph Lauren tough. Yeah, I knew making songs about polo and shit like that 2010 2010 and you never would have thought you'd be you know one adult you the cup one of the coldest to do it now For me, I'm just being honest with you when I You know, I hear your voice and I never knew that with you. I told you that Know that's you a lot of people don't know Whatever you say would you look at this? The brand exceeding what I did now you See that's because nobody knew that bro. I put that out. I'm the one I did that Like when you guys like you you knew you had some when did you know that you had something and like in and being the videos like that? Yeah, I didn't know I had something till I started making money around 2016 17 Was it going on YouTube or was it just you were giving a niggas video and he's Back then what the videos wasn't going on my YouTube channel like I was with fresh and Ronnie Ronnie had his own channel fresh So much it was going to their channels. Okay, and I started my own channel and start Building it from there building it from there. Yeah And how what did you see like are you a visionary in a way that you knew that that YouTube thing? And I know you feel say no because if you knew it you would be out of there Like when you first started you were your your whole frame of mind wasn't I'm gonna get this on YouTube and I'm gonna Cultivate it. You were just basically doing music and making hits through the system, right? Yeah, yeah, I was just trying to find a place to put that shit where people can you know listen to It was a bunch of different like different little sites that we used to like share our music Yeah, even like little links that we used to be able to send the DJ so they can download it quicker You see I'm saying but that's where we had people listen to music, too So that that kind of era ended with sound cloud once sound cloud came about Niggas start throwing all their music up on sound cloud But by the time sound cloud came about niggas was blowing up on YouTube with a face Yeah, yeah, yeah, you had two different worlds.  Yeah. Yeah.    No, it was 12. I did it the hook I didn't even know what the verses I did my verse last. We just had the hook on there.  I just came from us looking at some bitches twerking in the in the studio and it was doing a little move where they like get low and do like You know Man now What's the video that that took off for you that just went crazy you didn't expect it the most viral video that you had The most viral that you did too. That's on me. Yeah, that was it. That's still the biggest one show Miss your head up when you put that whole idea now that you knew it was gonna go to Know that one was gonna be the one that went but yellow was on the run at that time where he was like Something had to go like he was He was he was fighting like a motherfucker. Some had to go. So that was just the one that went there Would I in my opinion? That wasn't even his best song around that time But that was the one that it was just time for that and that's what I tell people because I be tripping on people People have so much man.  Yeah, no, but I'm saying if it's a certain song it does that it's it's but look Let me get you the percentage that I always give niggas in this music business I NBA NFL 50 young niggas lives change every year 50 niggas lives don't change doing music every year, bro. It might be three people That's real you see what I'm saying That's real and I promise you it's way more people trying to get in the music business Then it is trying to get in the NBA and NFL and doing sports because you gotta be disciplined to do that You gotta be in the gym these niggas going and grabbing they doing it on a phone now You see what I'm saying. So the odds of that are very rare.  He's he good. I'm watching yellow.  He said He bet Shakira Stevenson 25 alone, so I ain't no telling where I know I knew some money. I'm just excellent. I don't know. It's going out. Just a clip right here. I can feel it And then I thought I seen the clip I'm trying to swing on something that I'm like to fight over but this Yeah, I've seen that He's frustrated You know in the dice game a nigga loses money. You don't really say nothing to him You like it's over. Okay, so you speaking of a dice game. Yeah, it's the same as game I'm just talking about gambling in general. Just like just like a dice game. I see niggas talking about Err or something on his his get-back.  No, you can't do that Yeah, man. It's just like, okay.  You can't come home saying you got into a fight. Who won? But who? Hold on. Who won? You lost? All right, you got to fight him again tomorrow. Yeah, so why what's the difference? Both the difference is Niggas mad at my boy I don't like that Exactly But I see niggas talking about me and now he on it man. What did you tell him about? He got to go back Again No, he got to go back again. What show if he don't go back, you know, we're gonna have the same respect for him as a fighter He got to go back And and we know that no matter how he end up jumping back in that water So What do you and since you brought it up like again? You know, I had kind of wavered all from it like when I seen him when he came out I'm telling you I seen I said this His face it seemed like he was like just it was focused But it wasn't like the normal focus that I'm used to to be honest with and in the first round I wanted to say it was the first round, but I gotta get the damn tape, you know You know, it don't come out for two weeks on it. They take a little bit to get the whole fight Oh, yeah, okay But at first or the second round go back and look when he walked to the corner. He said man, I'm tired See, I got a look. I ain't go back and look even while I look I like I ain't look at the whole Okay, he said at the first round and I said and I was watching it And I'm a nigga that just watching it as a I don't care who we entitled But the nigga that with me that was that was beside me watching it was the one told me I'm like he did say that like I'm like why it had to be something wrong, bro For that because it it didn't seem like his his boxing was impactful at all when it came down to him hitting It didn't seem like it had the same power. No, it was he wasn't he wasn't fighting like he usually fight for show And that's what people but she was saying no Uh, Terry just that good and don't get me wrong He a bad boy, but i'm telling you that nigga looked horrible when you and I'm I'm c' error Didn't never look like that one. Ishy rooms I mean but them fault niggas that ej is way better then. That did better against bud than ej did so But that ain't no boxing work that ain't how boxing ain't but yeah, but I'm gonna tell you some If even if he I think they know what was wrong I mean if they study I'm talking him and him and Derrick James both. I think they know what with what the problem But that's what I'm saying until they make an excuse. I can't make an excuse for a boy Did he he's he's what they want everybody to say, but I'm telling you looking at that fight from a person who watched him fight Before that was the same fighter that I used to see I'm not going to play quite just like y'all the JZ thing I get true talking in a minute, but I'm not gonna say things that Just because everybody else saying no, that's not mean bro.   I hope that they go back to the drawing board because he didn't fight no different fight, bro Bro was ready for what he came with I can't I can't take none from like now, bro I think we see a different product. I know We were so so different Easy He said he was Up for that that was 30 million dollars Lot of people said that yeah, it could have been something wrong and he knew it He's still gonna fight that fight. I'm gonna tell you something though You know a lot of people said he probably went out the night before all kind of stuff I'm telling you people like damn. They must party or damn He probably he hanging he hanging with the you know with the rich number for that Having money and I don't see it the glamorous thing You know, I watch Rocky and every time they had probably take they man over into the wherever to the to the to the worst place ever You know take the train Wherever that place is you gotta find it for this next fight. What do you think happens in uh in in in December? Don't I mean, let's be realistic He goes back to fight in December like they had 154. What do you see? I hope the best for my boy. Yeah, you know, that's not only hope the best I hope you do better than last time. Yeah, you see the moment, you know, he could prove the world He could prove the world. Hey, I'll tell him this like this if you doing anything right now You gotta look at it. This your climax in your movie. This were the movie.  The Dallas people turn they back on oil spins The Dallas people turn it back on anybody The is these Dallas people are just just the world.  Did you?  I want to sleep with a headache.  I was I had a fight party.  Oh, so you like if we gonna do this Come on here dog. He didn't quit the ref stop the fight. Yeah, so he's gonna win out He would have went out in a casket That's a dog bro. Like he going back. You gotta understand. It's boxes. That's gonna take that knee and get up out of there Stop punching me, bro Man, bro, it's like now. It's a shot that I might hit him You still fighting in your mind you still doing that bro, you ain't quit on yourself and thinking about nothing else So let me ask you all this like when when you think about we're gonna go back into the music man a lot of people I want to hear from this guy right here cuz he always into the new man I told you my start on nobody knew what's going on in Dallas with the music, man As far as what yeah, that far as what the new artist that you that's what you do that day I'm a little old thing. What's that thing you do views? And you got a source for them they come it's not on this dog. Yeah, that's a good one Is that a good one are you just faking? Music like what's wrong man? It's good people.  I'm talking about the music. Have you heard a hit or something underground?  What's the process? I don't know, bro It's a give it a crack.   You popular already like that's what this is It's a popularity contest and you already in I tell people that they picked the younger cuz you did what I'm saying They around more people you in a school of what we was in school 800 to a hundred at one time If you are good Everybody they're gonna support you besides the other niggas that rap this hate. It ain't enough for them.  So do you feel like okay, which one are you most proud of? Most proud of none of them Come put some duckets in my hand Which one has impressed you the most then Nobody impressed me.  I ain't leave it to your pocket We would get something like that. I ain't nobody's talking nothing to my pocket. Really? Ain't nobody still ain't talking nothing to my pocket.    He said man if they don't want to stay I don't want to keep them. I don't want nobody don't want me pretty much I'm finding that out in this world too.  It's a messed up way to offer show to have to deal with the experience of helping You know, but that's why that's why you got to do business. I wouldn't do a business What people hate doing business when they when they in it and they selfish When they selfish bro, and they only thinking about they self and ain't like this is what this is what I'm gonna miss with him To get to my next step.   He got everything he got the image. He got the music popularity I don't know. I'm looking into that right now. That's the part. He He not effect is serious. How important is the effect? I don't know. I never had the effecter, bro I'm one of the ones that beat the pavement and made him respect me. I didn't have it French Montana didn't have it even. I feel like he likes skiing.  Montana had the bag. Yeah. There you go. I didn't see I seen a nigga that I walked in. I was like, damn. I'm not stealing my meat. The bag. And that nigga likes skiing with her.  Nah, you know. Nah, I'm not. I had to eat messy, man. And that nigga likes skiing with German Shepherd here, man. I can't do nothing. I can't do nothing about that, man. So do you feel like, like when you look at these artists, man, are you willing to work with like out of town artists? Did they get reached out to you too? Yeah, out of town. You saying as far as like work with them? No, no, like, like when it comes down to the movement of the music and you might get a guy from, say, Memphis or from Houston. Oh, yeah. No. On music reviews, they'd be from all over the world. Where's the furthest that you heard a nigga from? Everywhere. They'd be everywhere.  You couldn't understand.  It's like, it's like they got the cadence and stuff, but I can't understand what they say. I'm like, okay, you jam it. I don't know what you're saying, but you putting it together, right? Yeah, yeah. So, nah, they be on there. You're lying, man. I'm going to ask you something. Look, right, this is more pertaining to you.  I did some interviews. I was listening to Three Sixteen, you know what I'm saying? This is one of Three Sixteen. You know what I'm saying? Okay. This is a series that Bumbi. Mm-hmm. Three Sixteen, man. You niggas doing two minute songs now. You got one 16 and a half. Like the music has changed. I get it. I want to understand. Three Sixteen's is crazy. I get it. I get it. So, I just want you to just break it down to me.   And you got to want to. I don't listen to that whole, man. That whole going down. All the people killing that whole thing.   That's why you think I'm asking you. I'm like, ooh. Ooh. But see, look though.  When they get to that second hook, they like... I get it. All right. I want to hear the next one.  That's sick. That's sick. That's the one. You get it. Nah, they on the musical views because I only give you a minute and 30 seconds. You want a nigga that caused all that. You the main nigga that got niggas doing two minutes songs. That's all it takes. But what hit record? Let me ask you this though. Let me ask you this though. Either be the devil's advocate or something like that.    How long do we take you to listen to a song and know it's just ten minutes? I know how soon does that whole come on.  That's all you... So if it's two minutes, run it back. Run it back. I never run it back. If it's short. I heard that club song with 50 C in the club. I heard it on 106 and Park. I only heard the beat. They weren't playing. They were just... Doom. Doom. Doom. I said, what the hell is that? You know what's going on? As soon as it comes on? Did Dre do it in the club? Yeah. No, no. I heard something else about that. I heard something else about that. One of his producers did it. There was somebody that was tied to him that did it. I heard something about that. I can't... I'm a massive. That all go crazy. I tell niggas that all the time. That's one of the hardest beats. Massive. No, for sure. So when you hear Sir One, like you said, I don't know. You never know to you know. You never know.  All the time. That's what they do. Programming. That's the point of playing.  They're going to program it in your head. Is it important to be on the radio these days? When you have one, it is. Yeah. When you have one? When you have one. Boom. Bounce when she walk. Prince. My friends. Spade. They have one. Yeah. You hear it on radio. Yeah. That helps it spread all across the country. They help all these other stations pick up on it. And you know, we want to see them... I want to see them number one. Yeah. Not on the urban charts. I want to see them number one just on the billboard. Because that's a different type of money. They life change. I need my niggas life change.  So you got... Well, get with them then. This is every country. Get with them. Let's get with them. We need them. For sure. So, you know, I don't know if it's cause I'm happy. Cause that whole was crazy. But Pharrell been having a formula. Pharrell been having a formula for years. That whole, that whole right there. That's a different type of record right there. That whole penetrated the world. As it should. Do you know any other song like that? Um... You see what I'm saying? That whole penetrated the world. Now, there's some other songs out there like See You Again at Wiz Khalifa song. Hey, hey, hey. Quiet on the set. Go ahead. What did you say? I said that See You Again at Wiz Khalifa song. Yeah, absolutely. That Kiki... That bit rolled though. That bit rolled. Number one for the long. God playing too. God playing. The Kiki are you with now. But see, I don't never count them. But see, that was cool. That's your hometown road. But see, but not all the reason that that was it. And it was cool. Cause that was his first record to me. You see what I'm saying? When we mentioned him up because they done lived on the billboard. Like Drake and Wiz that I've been there probably before. That don't matter. They got the formula. They know how to work it. You dig what I'm saying? At this point, they just trying to top theyself. Like I was telling you earlier. They not competing with the niggas on the ground. When Lil Glow really go number one on her first record. That's when it's life changing. That's when the music business, everybody that's in it, get paid. Cause now you can keep swindling. You see she blew up. You see somebody random blew up. And they live like they're attached to this. I promise you, bro, that the whole music business, bro, they need. They don't need as much as they have these, what they will call it. What they call them. The industry motherfuckers. The industry plants. They need at least one genuine person to blow up to keep all these other motherfuckers buying. That's that keep. That's your third keep. What's that? Open. Yeah. Yeah. Million motherfuckers going to buy equipment. Yeah. Million motherfuckers going shopping with a DJ in that city or in the city. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's just one of them things where you need somebody to blow up. But in the music business, it don't take that many of them. Let me ask you something.   I mean, would you have done the song with Takashi six nine? I mean, for the meal. The running model. Yeah. What?  What? I'm not a street nigga. I'm not a street nigga, bro. We don't live out of codes. I'm not a street nigga. So you don't, you know, it would have affected how people look at you. You don't care. But that's cause that's what, but bro, I'm grown up.   You get me and me.  You hear me? So, sure. As a matter of fact, you got to end for me right now, rat boy. I got you. Rat it two years ago. You definitely shooting that video, huh? I'm for sure. And I don't even feel right calling him a rat cause that ain't none of my business. That's street nigga business. So you basically definitely would, you would put that verse together and get there. The only reason he did that, cause it made sense to, to show street niggas like this money. I'm gonna show you that the streets is a lot. It wouldn't matter if he came and did it with me. Nobody would care.  I ain't been to jail, none of that. I'm proud to say that nigga. Catch me if you can, law enforcement.  I'm trying to teach these people something different. So I'm not, none of that. I don't represent that. If you got to end for me to rap, I'm rapping. Let's rap a taste.  You know, he'd have something to say about it. Somebody probably snitched on him before. It probably somewhere in his heart. It don't get too much. It don't get too much. It don't get too much. You know the world with me. I don't know nobody that got snitched on. I don't, that ain't, that ain't none of my, and I'm, if that's what you do, ay, I'll power to you.   I got to get that bag. Gracie, what's up, baby? We finna go buy whatever you want. Melody, what you need, baby? It's, it's good. God bless you.  You know, I've seen you at bars. I've seen you at DGs. I know that bar. You know what I'm saying? I've seen you at another bar. I can't, I don't know what that bar is. You know, doing the, Oh, you'll love it over there. That's your speed. Oh, the new spot. The new spot. That's your speed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, let me know. Like, like you've done, you explained to me that process and what made you do it like far as behind the bar. Man, that was a little runny idea. It was you. You came up with that. Hey man, I don't like credit, man. I just like it. I didn't talk about that, man. I just like to sit in the back. I didn't put you all the way in there.  Yeah, that was a, that was a little runny. That's the top off thing, niggas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All that got to be up under that thing. Yeah, that's going to be a part of our movie. Yeah, for sure. So, so when you, I seen, I had a guy on here.  Yeah, Tony. Tony Will Rich. Yeah. And when he was on here, I seen a, cause I followed him cause he followed me over here. Me and my wife, we followed Boss Talk. And I seen he was on your show. Put a deal up on it. Like when you think of who he is and what he represent for is the brand going the way he's doing. Do you hear, is he a good, is the songs good? Is he one of those guys that could go? Man, yes. Tony is a star. He like, he like one of the motherfuckers that just know like what to do to get the people. He not stuck in like, I'm a rapper. I want you to like my songs. He's creating controversy.  He not trying to be the best rapper in the world.   Man, the nigga, yeah, he told me about kicking a dough. I put the whole thing. My nigga, this was some, I think the nigga should do stand up. I'm gonna be like, he is in the wrong business.  My nigga, I heard this, I heard this nigga in here and everybody in here left out this whole, when he was doing the interview.  Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I nigga funny. So this nigga really don't even be trying to be funny. That's the best funny it is. Like Mike Fresh. I told him, nigga, you should take this. We would just tell him first thing.  You are funny.  You are hilarious. I told him that's the funny part. Exactly. You don't know it's funny. You just really believe. You really know serious about this conversation you have. And like, and I love it because like I said when I hear him and I hear the expression and who he is and what he done with you guys working is family, bro. I love it. You know what I'm saying? Even the yellow part is family. I don't care. The nigga, ain't never got to come do an interview. I'm going to talk about everything that everybody talk about around him. So he probably would be ready for this. Yeah. Because I be, because it's all about just the unity and what the, what the culture brings. You know, Dallas has a culture. Dallas has a, you guys are so detached in so many ways though. That's something I see. I hate it. But at the end of the day, the older generation, which the coming together part, boy Prince told me, we ain't coming together. When they like, when you doing something and it's great, you just have to have that respect on another level. I don't really, I don't really think the city is detached, bro. I just don't see them coming together. What is coming together in your head?  Atlanta? No, I'm going to tell you about that. I really want to know. Whether it be, whether it be from, hell, I could say, I could even say yellow. I could say mothry. I could say a bunch of them that didn't come together like that. They didn't, or either wouldn't, even Mr. Lucci, they got to achieve them during that time. But just, you wouldn't see them with what it was other people at that time that was doing music, bro. But they might have been a little older. Or they might have been a little younger. But it wasn't like they was reaching and grabbing each other. You know what I'm saying? It may be because there wasn't a label here or something, a major label that was bringing them and you had to work together. I think that may be what it is, because usually when y'all get picked, is it the same person or the same label that was picking during the time when it was big on signing deals? I'm pretty sure everybody was hearing from everybody. You see what I'm saying? So it could be coming from that because these, certain groups of people not going to work together.  Some other group, whatever it might be, universal, we might not never get y'all together, but if we're on the same label, then I could see it happening because it makes more sense and easier to make happen. So I'm just saying us. But you mean like the artists don't, they don't collaborate enough. That's what I'm saying. Like when you look at Atlanta, whoever, they definitely collaborate. Or like when yellow, when he blue, when he really was up like when I was really loving his flow when he did the song, he went and did the song with Gucci and, and the takeoff. It wasn't, it wasn't takeoff. Quavo, Quavo. And basically, you know, those guys, but it was talent here for show. You know what I'm saying? That would have definitely thrived off of that. He did get trapped. That's his main boy for sure. But I'm just saying, but, but, but it makes sense. That count. It do count. It don't always make sense to, it made sense for him to come back and grab trap. It made absolute sense. But there was a lot more talent in the city at the time. It don't make sense for him to come and try to pull everybody. Bro, listen, I ain't trying to say pull everybody, but even right now, where, where are the fruits of your labor? You leaders. What you mean? Meaning where's that little guy that, that knows how to shoot that video? He's probably out here. You know what I'm saying?  I have asked people this and they'd be like, no, I'm trying to get him to say that name. That's my boy. I ain't saying it, but it's like, like that's the whole game. Even with chief, I asked him the same thing. Like, yeah, where's that other person at? Where's that person that this shows? Where's your little, you know, whoever, but you could yellow has this trap. To me, I can say, no, I can say from, from experience. It's just like what point said, really gotta make sense. Okay. But with me, how I work with like artists, I don't have time for excuses. Okay. So that instantly will get you on my bad side, bro, because I literally came from absolutely nothing. Bro, I still record all my music to this day, mix, master, everything you ever heard, me, bro. Like you see what I'm saying? So I don't have time for excuses. I don't have time to babysit nobody.  Yeah. So them just peers, I treat them with respect. Like they dope artists. Like you don't get treated like you a dope artist. Whereas in, you got people that just do it to hear theyself. Like it's your first time doing music. How old you is? You can be good too. You dig what I'm saying? But in my mind, I'm like bro, I done put in years. Like bro, no, I'm not gonna stop my whole day to listen to a nigga that started making beats four months ago. When you got niggas that, they've been making beats 20 years that probably dope. And they never had a look. Them things how you tap in with, they current. I like the top of movement, man. And I know you guys have definitely tried to keep a collective group of people together. I definitely know that. But like when you look at the state of E forties and the sugar tees and the, you know, when you looked at the old, the masterpiece and Mr. Cervantes, the KLCs, everybody had the ups and downs, but you knew that they was a part of each other's legacy. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm, I'm thinking. Oh, no, well, if that's the case, we're a part of a lot of niggas legacy out here. Yeah. You know, but that's, that's that. Like we say, a part of the right people's legacy, bro, because you can, you can, you can expand your energy, bro. You don't want to put too much energy somewhere where you not getting absolutely nothing. And you can water yourself down. You'll water your whole anything that you built up trying to bring somebody in that you want to see.  I'm going to flip it. Like, like, what do you think that Dallas could have done better to make things better in the city when it comes to the music? And I asked him first, not you. To make things better? How could music be on, on another hyena? So, it's really on the fans, bro. It's not on the artists. All the artists have to listen. Yes, bro. You think that's true too? People don't really listen. I'm an artist at heart. Before anything, then I understand the business of it, bro.  Oh, I get it. Oh, I get it. Because I know if I can't put it out, I can put somebody else out that you might like on it. You did what I'm saying. That's how I do. So, I got you. You feel like, you know, pretty much it's on the fans to you. But I don't think it's a certain structure that you can go through. Now, it's not a certain chain you can go through in the city where they can just boost you up and make you a superstar. Exactly. Except half-point films. That's crazy.  Like, he's him. Y'all need to be looking at him. And then when it works, he's like, I've been saying look at him before it looked good. But he's been screaming for a lot of motherfuckers. Like he said, it don't work for a two.  That's real. What about, like, you've done so many, so many things in your realm that you could do.   And not in top off either. Shit, I can tell you a lot of people. I don't want a lot of them. I want the one that I want the one that you know like this. When I was coming up, the only people in my era that was going crazy was Young Nation. And Fat Pimp? Fat Pimp, Fat Pimp was already him. He was already him, but he had to pay at that time, too. But Fat Pimp had another hit after that hit. Yeah. So, but Fat had another hit after that hit. Mm-hmm. Like, niggas gotta put some respect on Fat Catalog. Me and Fat had them conversation all the time. Like, bro, yeah, a lot of niggas popular. But niggas, when they cut, when you tell the DJ hit play and it's a packed house, they can't move the crowd like you gonna move the crowd. They got, they know your song. They know their face.  He's cute.   VH1 model or a loving hip hop personality. We need you to support this music for us to be making money. Wow. That's all. In fact, one of them niggas that can get on that stage, bro, we'll have a sing-along. What about you when it comes to videographers? When it comes down to the person who do what you do, who did you see that done it on a level where you was like, damn, he good. He doing his thing.  Right now, 6K hip-hop.  I'm talking about coming into the game. When I was coming in, the whole, then when you was at your peak, you know what I'm saying? You looked over and said, damn, that nigga right there. You know what I'm saying? Mellow. Yeah, that nigga was working. Yeah, that nigga was working. Yeah, when I was coming up, Mellow was right there. Visuals by D was right there. I mean, I can name a lot of them. I can name all of them. Yeah, I can name all of them. That's what I do. But no. You got pint, Mellow, Prophecy, D. Prophecy. You got a 6K now. Mazzie was trying to do it. Now he done went and split in the dip that I see. He back doing videos, but he back doing, you know, he used to tell us when he came, they try to make it. Niggas want to make some money right now. You know, all the niggas that have proven they self to be quality videographer, they want to make some money. So they ain't playing about them prices now.  You ain't going to leave because they, a lot of them did free videos. All of us have done free videos. A lot of them have done quality, maybe viral, maybe life changing videos for a nigga that they did for free. And then like I said, nigga never came and said, where your parking at? I'm going to sock you to it. You got the red. You got the red. Yeah. Walk in. Walk in with the red or a MacBook here. I know your laptop was crashing when you was doing it. Never that. So they want some. Gas money some. I respect they mind. I see, I see how they work. Do your niggas need that? That's why I want to be a cameraman. I'm a cameraman. You do a lot. They just treat cameraman like the bottom of the barrel and nigga has not been treating me like no people. You do small films. I do a lot of short films. You do. But you own it.  You got to eat. I'm a personality now. I'm trying to get out of the cameraman lane.  What you going to be? A personality. Whatever. Whatever. I don't know. So I'm going to work though. You're going to try some.   Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So who would you like to work with for us now? Like it don't have to be videos. Let me get you. You don't want to do the videos no more. Like who do you what? Just you a little running. The short movies, the short films. What is the next thing that you really want to see work for half a film? Behind the bars. That's straight the focus. Yeah. Because it got my face all over it. So I'm going to reap the benefits. But we still doing the movies, right? Yeah. Doing all that. Yeah. We're still doing all that. It's just another added attribute. Yeah. Yeah. Just putting it on the podium and following the producers. Not putting it on the podium. Nope. Everybody. No, no. No, nobody. That's why they should have got. Yeah. I know. I know. But somebody was going. It's been three months. Damn. I got to go back to the political. How you guys have a lot of people with you. I remember you brought a girl over. I can't remember the name. Tiana.   I was just, that was like trying.  They're not nice. Keep one of them. Oh, you be in the comments.  I'm like, hell, you ain't one of them people. I don't want to go to say cheese comments. I'm in there. I'm going to say something about, I'm opinionated. Yes. You didn't say cheese comment? I'm in every blog comments. If I see something and I need to make a comment on it and it's on top of my head.  Yeah. I seen Sean Cotton at Charleston. Y'all chopped it up? We didn't chop it up. We shook hands, I shook his hand, but. We ain't, me and Sean Cotton ain't had no problem. You know I know about the car. Oh yeah. Look at that. I thought you know I know about the car. He's all good with the car, man. Look at that, man. I know about the car, man. So, you know, you just want to make sure you're on and y'all got him straight, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I mean, you know, I love the fact that I think he's safe as it starts doing some podcasting, too, and some most stuff. So it's just big, man. Love to see what the city's doing, man. How can people get a hold to you, man, if they trying to rock out with you? Man, Instagram, half pint films with two Zs now. That is not a fake page. That's me now. Two Zs. See, I went on a run when I had my old Instagram. I went on a run of, hey, there's so many fake pages of me. Block all these fake pages, and then they deleted my page. And now my page started looking like a fake page. So I had to rebrand them on Instagram. Really?  You got the thread on it, too? Yeah. I don't got that thread. You got it, too? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just had to go on here. Everybody's doing the thread now. I don't think I done threaded in the goddamn week. Yeah, I'm about to say, I mean. I ain't needed the thread in the week, dude.  I ain't threaded in the week, man. I need to come out. Matter of fact, I'm for the thread right now. I'm gonna say, you know what I'm talkin' about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm talkin' about. You know what I'm talkin' about?  So you know what, man, here we go. See, you don't get any video blocks. And they gonna block not on the video. They gonna go on the block.  Oh, that's okay. Go and play. He been there? Yeah, he said I was uploadin' the porn. I just wanna view it.  Yeah, that's why I'ma say it. And Snapchat, Snapchat got some stuff on it, man. I quit lookin' at it. My wife banned me from Snapchat. Don't go on there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta get up off of there. Say it, man. I gotta get ahold of you. Little runnin' mother hell, right now. Hey, look, come on down to the church or, um. Nah, make sure y'all follow me and a little runnin' mother hell, man. I'ma pass the Deakin' to undergo, um, Baptist, um, Pentecostal, um, Catholic and all that. You still got the character of the, the, the, the, the. Of the Tars? Yeah, but I'ma do some new of the Tars just for you. See what I'm sayin' about that? I'ma do some new of the Tars just for you. You see what I'm saying? Make sure you mention Bostalk in it, man. Bostalk 101, got you. I got you. Man, hey, man. Thank you guys for comin' on the show, man. Make sure you gotta like, subscribe to our channel. I'm over here, man. I'm doin' my, I gotta ask y'all another question, like, like, um, when you look at, like, Mo3 and the outside song and all the stuff that he brought to the table too, I didn't talk about that. You know what I'm sayin'?  Like, like, as far as the music after that happened, and it's my last question I'm rappin' it up. Like, um, how do you guys think that it affected the city? Let's be real. Oh, it just put a real dark cloud? Yeah, it put a hold on the city for show. Cause I can tell, I'm tellin' ya, I'm livin' through it. You know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, no, we all are, we all are, for show.  So I just always think about that, like, it just did things that you normally wouldn't, you never seen that before, like.  That's no thing, they never happen like that in Dallas. In other cities, we ain't like that, bruh. That happened with Kenny, that happened with the wife over. You know what I'm sayin'? We ain't doin' stuff like that, bruh. I always say that too, we don't really get down. No, quit hangin' like that, bruh. Nah, that was different for us. That's why I come and hit like it did. Yeah, not for show. You know what I'm sayin'? So I just had to ask y'all that because I couldn't mention everybody and definitely not mention him cause as far as lyricism and the way that he did his thing, he came to deny that and never done it in your life, nigga.  You know what I'm sayin'?  I definitely had to say that, man. Thank you guys for comin' on the show, man. How am I doin' it? We're at Boss Talk 101. Let me ask him for it.   Surprise didn't bring that little can. Tell him, what time is it? He got his shades on, it's nine and nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let him know how it would. It's nine and nine. So how we doin' over at Boss Talk 101? The lights is bright over here at Boss Talk 101. That's why I put him in here! That's why I put him in here! The lights is so bright in here at Boss Talk 101. How you likein' the vibe on this show? Oh man, y'all been killin', y'all been killin' it since. You were early. As soon as I seen the set up, I loved it, so. Damn. You in the road. You the only nigga I know got eight cameras on the nigga. But you got two in the room right there. I got two whole niggas in can't run quick. Right, it's all. But man, you guys always invited. I'm sure we can always do this, man. We rockin', me and you, we got, we still gotta do our solo over here. So man, you know, but at the end of the day, man, just appreciate you guys, man. Appreciate y'all for rockin' with Boss Talk 101, man. We gon' keep puttin' it in their face, man. This year, some big things gon' pop off. I can tell you that. For sure. Especially in December, when my boy go get his own.   Lickback season. He's gonna say they gon' try, hey, they gon' try. You go under this one. You gotta be there. I gotta be at this one. No. But, but, hey, hey. You like to watch it. I like to watch it. Me too. Let me get my ticket and fly. Let me get my ticket and fly. That's right, I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna put it down. I'm gonna get my ticket. We gon' see that for sure. Man, thank y'all for comin' on the show, man. This been another great segment, man. Yes, sir. Love y'all boys, man. Love you too, man. A boss talk 101, what a boss's talk, man. Yeah.