Okay, we're back on a Monday morning with Scott Horschberger. He is an attorney. He was the attorney general of the state of Massachusetts He joins us by phone from Boston. Hi Scott. Thank you for joining us today Hey, thank you very much for having me and I'm sure you're having much much better weather in In Honolulu in Hawaii and we are here in Boston, Massachusetts. I feel your pain And I feel your pain But but speaking about pain, you know the country's in pain We feel it. We see it. We hear it on the news every day. It's it become an application Whether people admit it or not, they spend hours every day following, you know, the shenanigans going on in Washington with this government And it should be of concern to everyone, especially the lawyers who are presumably steeped in the rule of law And you've gotten heavily involved in that and I wonder if you could tell us the state of affairs in the government and uh, why we should be concerned about the about the um, the failure to abide by the rule of law by this administration So I think that the major concern that I have and that We've been all trying at least many have been trying to articulate Is that we have seen the executive president of the united states Engage in what seems to be a an intentional and systematic attack on core legal A democracy principles and values including the rule of law the independence of judiciary the independence of the justice department and to basically take the position that The rule of law is not a check and balance is not a guardrail But rather is something to be used primarily for personal self-interested and ideological reasons now not to be too uh arcane about this the fact is the rule of law the core institutions of democracy The constitution our center posts Uh, which are meant to ground us to ensure that we can Disagree without being uh disagreeable to have arguments to have debates to have Freedom of speech but with some core common ground and common cause understanding That there are limits. There are checks and balances. There's an executive role congressional role a role for the courts role for citizens And what is happening today is an abandonment uh a systematic attack on these and we're not Frankly seeing any defense particularly from lawyers j Of the rule to protect or sworn by the oath of the office we take in every state To uphold the law and the constitution And the laws of this of this commonwealth in massachusetts And those are being undermined. They're also being come highly partisan And I think without why I speak as a democrat on the republican side. We're also seeing elected officials Who are accepting Justifying and even praising these systematic attacks on core democracy Institutions Threatened the fragility the very strength of our democracy Every citizen could be deeply concerned about this regardless of party You know, you know, we've been we've been watching this since what uh 2016 2017 And uh and to focus on the time period I remember the uh, you know the protests right after the inauguration of donald trump where people said not my president Um, and it was like a cold bath of water to find that he was he was our president for many reasons But you know things have things have moved on from there And I wonder if you could comment on the sea changes involved. We were concerned. Yes. We were in january 2017 But here we are in 2019 going to 2020 Has it gotten worse? Is it the same? You know, what what are the what are the evolutions? We should be noticing here in the past what two or three years Very very good point and I think that um, and it's you know, to some extent Sort of easy to criticize a president who feels that he's constantly under attack So the questions about legitimacy of his uh election and that's how he articulates it That he's never been accepted and therefore it's a constant Attack by the media which is the enemy of the people he calls the press the Democrats who disagree with him are you know, socialists whistleblowers who Are a type of protections of law are you know viewed as terrorists It's anybody who is attacks or it criticizes The president is deemed to be Sort of a traitor to the cause and that kind of That kind of action has become increasingly apparent As and as the power of the executive the desire to control the desire frankly to be almost a king or a monarch um, and refuse to have any constraints Is being uh is being carried out the change is the change I think is and I don't Only mean to attribute this The death of john mccain senator john mccain For whatever reason meant that the end of the backbone or spine Of republican senators who know better For whatever reason, um The the fact that john mccain has not been there to try to hold the republican party To its principles not democratic principles, but its own principles In terms of standards of decency of honesty of integrity Uh of upholding the constitution and the constitutional balances The role of the senate has become a republican party has simply become the party of donald trump And he is operating by by by virtue of his tweets by virtue of his control of the media Um, I think it has escalated dramatically and more importantly. He has been successful in my view j He has been successful because he is convincing An unbelievable number of our citizens that He is under attack At the anybody who criticizes him is an enemy of the people Um and has essentially eliminated dissent as a meaningful A factor here, um And we can rely on the courts and all that but the fact of the matter is that We are seeing what I consider to be a consolidation of power In the name of the president not in terms of the legitimate public policy or interest that the president represents and And it's totally become a political partisan effort. Let's let's talk about all right Let's talk about the uh, the role of the attorney general now You've you've been in that role in in massachusetts and you can appreciate what it's like to be the attorney general in a democratic society And in in the national scene we have dramatic changes that have taken place Recently with regard to the department of justice and the attorney general Those changes are are of great concern. Can you talk about that? I think that the performance of Attorney general far has been shocking to me This is a man that served as deputy attorney general In the early 90s when I was attorney general in massachusetts And while somewhat conservative, certainly appropriately with the Seemed to be appropriately reflecting simply A conservative principles Now as attorney general has become essentially views his role as being Twofold one is to be the president's lawyer that the president the president certainly wants that to be the case That's what he criticized the former attorney general The obsessions for that's what he criticized former head of the fbi Jim comey for if they were not loyal to him Loyalty to him was the key In his mind And these were viewed as They acted felt they had some obligations to the institution sessions therefore got fired comey got fired And what you see throughout the administration is anybody who was not loyal to president trump And try to fulfill his legal his or her legal responsibilities is there no more jim mattis rex tillerson any number of cabinet secretaries Who left because of that now the attorney general usually has considered to be well, perhaps a partisan Understand that the first and foremost the responsibility attorney general is the law and the facts To represent the public interest not the president to represent the people's interests not The private interests the partisan interests of a party now that may the philosophy may be more conservative than mine It might well be policies that are different of mine, but the argument was about policy not about person And what has been shocking to me is attorney general bar beginning with his handling of the muller report essentially becoming A spokesperson as a personal attorney for the president defender He justifies it by his view of the unitary executive which almost No constitutional scholar that i know of agrees with even though There is a there has been increasing focus by him on that And essentially you have no checks and balances in the department of justice above all Attorney general whether democrat or republican in any state hawaii or elsewhere Job is his responsibility to the people to the law and the facts Not the partisan politics And I think that's been a grave grave change. Well, you know here at christmas time Here at christmas time scott I am always in fact we are all always reminded of the christmas carol by by charles dickens And in the in the christmas carol by by charles dickens There's the ghost of christmas future And I think we ought to be thinking about that now because of these processes These sea changes that you've described these conditions that have emerged under this administration Continue we are going to have a different world Can you describe what the ghost of christmas future is for the united states? In the future in a future under donald trump and his administration Let me I think first of all I I do want to focus on one Problem, which is I think and what mobilized us as lawyers defending american democracy not the only group to do this by the way Was that the legal profession Was remaining silent It is of all the interest groups of all the groups that exist The one profession that takes an oath of office explicitly Uphold the law and the constitution Are lawyers and when you have a situation where lawyers either approve of these kinds of fundamental fundamental erosions of checks and balances and powers and limits on the abuse of power And you see them systematically being eroded by the actions of the executive And do nothing Speak do not even try to speak truth to power And we have failed but we are the one instant profession that has a responsibility. I believe To call this out and speak truth to power regardless of party And therefore you look forward if this continues and I I I I believe I think we're now understanding how fragile The democratic institutions are how much they depend upon some Or assumption of civility of integrity of decency of expressions of free press Of independence of judiciary independence of law enforcement Of institutions and public servants that we're seeing in the impeachment hearings people who Will do their duty regardless of who the president is who have served for republican presidents and democratic presidents Who are willing to tell to speak What they believe to be problems and then to be ridiculed not only ridiculed but attacked by the president and attacked personally By members of the republican party cross examining them We are very close to the 1930s Rise of the of the fascists in germany in my view. This is exactly the game Plan that we saw years ago that we say can't happen again The future Could well lie in what we have seen in the past And we cannot simply assume that here we are in america With this democracy that these institutions will hold when there is such a systematic effort Every level to undermine them. So in 1968 Eldad was created the lawyers for the defense of american democracy At harvard as I understand it and and it has existed all those years But but the trump administration has given it a A more important mission these days and it is said under your guidance. So your leadership It has taken on the burden of making Lawyers aware or at least increasing their awareness of the problem. Can you tell us what eldad has done in the last year or so? This the lawyers defending american democracy which created at the gift reunion of our harvard law school class In last october Which one of which was an eminent professor from yale who happens to have used the name of idel And my brother you mean my brother gene, of course Brother gene But I I mentioned the harvard. Can I not not to make it? Well, it was harvard law school The key was here. We were lawyers coming back to reunion 50 years after we graduated From college from law school at a time that was equally in crisis in america That so many people forget that that was the time of vietnam The protests in vietnam civil rights movement just following the assassinations of martin ruther king and robert f. Kennedy Of a turmoil within the system which ended up among other things with the impeachment of richard nixon The the watergate disclosures, but also the firing of an attorney general was led to the resignations of Attorneys general when the firing of archibald cox and the one thing that I recall We all remembered was The legal profession stood and delivered not as republicans or democrats but heads of law firms deans of law schools The american bar association bar associations all over the country Said this was wrong That we had to continue to preserve civil rights and civil liberties We had to preserve the independence of the attorney general and special counsel We had to ensure that the court The congress powers of congress were upheld and could not be subverted by the executive In other words, we had a crisis which about which many have written but john meacham most particularly Uh a crisis of our democracy and among others The legal profession stood tall and said this shall not stand Stood and delivered protecting and defending the constitution and the rule of law today I cannot see any Movement by an independent legal profession to stand and deliver and lawyers defending american democracy was an effort to gather The lawyers who believed that this was our role not a partisan issue Try to assemble republicans and democrats to take a stand on behalf of the rule of law And core principles freedom in the media independence of judiciary disability Not attacking people because of their race or creed those core principles and we Managed to accumulate over 800 white prominent lawyers Who have signed it is not that in a in a this era we are concerned. They're not as many as we would like We have had limited i would say limited if any impact because as you point out j things have gotten worse not better in the last year And for whatever reason it's not news that a core lawyers Stand for the rule of law if we were standing if we were all here attacking personally In a vicious partisan way. We would probably get more attention I am pleased that a group like checks and balances which represents conservative republicans Is getting some play making some of the same points that we're making about the rule of law And people like charles freed and larry tribe And people like george conway are being heard to some extent But i'm very concerned j and having a negligible impact on public opinion And more importantly on our fellow lawyers. What are why are people not listening? I don't understand That's a really good question is it's you raised the question before about why they're supporting trump You know despite all the things he does and doesn't do So I guess the question is if i'm If i'm a lawyer Go ahead and j here's the thing I have talked i've i've seen i've watched the impeachment I've watched the impeachment hearings. I hear people like former attorney former attorney general and congressman boyan mccallum Uh, I hear You know articulate good lawyers who will stand and and and and take the position That they are not they agree with the rules that we are undermining the rule But we have attorney general bar going to the federalist society And the event sponsored by facebook of all things uh for the federalist Attorney general bar speaking about speaking saying that it is The lawyers who are being critical Democrats who have been critical the president who are undermining the rule of law the subpoenas The subpoena power of congress is being challenged as being You know a disruption The the insistence of congress On the right to be to hear from executives to hold the executive accountable a whole hearings is being considered to be Is it they're using the rhetoric that we use which is if they claim it's undermining the rule of law They're claiming it is violating all the rules of decency. It is to me A 19th and or a george orwell world Yes, where the same words mean different things depending on your ideological or partisan view Well, so 800 lawyers have signed off on the letter. Where has it gone? Um, and I suppose the second part of that question is so it lands on my desk Why in the average case do I not do something about it? What passes my mind when I receive this letter? What fails to motivate me? What what do I what do I do with this letter and what have people been doing with it? Well, I think there's there's an excellent question and I think we probably all have many had many responses, but One has been one has been I think most disturbing to me Is that people are afraid to sign the letter That is it may be in law firms where clients might object They may be in situations where it's viewed as partisan It's ideological. It's too partisan. We're too partisan. We're mostly all of us. You have democrats or liberals of some kind We keep saying we we we want to encourage Republicans to join us. We're not It cannot be partisan in a democracy to stand and insist that the rule of law Core legal and democratic democracy principles apply that is not a partisan statement unless you believe that equal justice Affair in us new process freedom of speech are our you know our violate our ideological concepts. So one is If defense is as partisan The second one is that if I sign if I sign up it becomes public I may be criticized by clients Or by others who don't agree with me in this environment. That's one approach The second one is others who could rightly think that just signing a statement in this day and age Isn't good enough. So you got it. You you you need some sort of action Some some maybe are joining lawyers for good government or joining other organizations that are the aclu and others that are That are participating actively in certain things and I commend that many of our members are doing that Our point is We're trying not to be just advocates for particular issues We're trying to be advocates for something that really isn't the special interest It's sort of a broad public interest in the rule of law and to many many lawyers The third point is here jay many lawyers. This is vague. They don't they don't understand this They don't see this as being what I see as being The actions of the president as being abuses of power They think that the democrat that I've heard many of my colleagues say Well, the democrats are just as bad. Look the democrats are just as bad. Look at hunter biden Look at look at the press appears biased against the president of the united states You know the mauler report was you know was designed to get him new democrats have never accepted his elections All kinds of justifications and excuses By lawyers just like fellow citizens We're not being willing to stand up and simply defend the core idea That there are core principles That must exist or things fall apart the center will not hold If the lawyer won't do this Who will yes? Oh, what a great question You know, we all went to law school. We learned about the the federal government the balance of power the constitution Constitutional laws understand as a required course in every law school in the country And yet for some reason and I would like to ask you about this for some reason The bar in general and you can say there are exceptions. I would treat the 800 as an exception rather than the rule Um, the bar in general doesn't understand the crisis wherein They're out there. They're practicing. They're doing their job. They don't want to you know They don't want to get into a controversial situation They recognize or they appreciate wrongly. I think that um, that there's there's a divisiveness among lawyers as there is a divisiveness among The society in general that has been created over the past few years. So they don't want to take a chance They don't want to take any risk, you know, I suppose that's a business concept. Don't take any risk But you know, but I see this as a huge problem And a reflection of a really bad tendency among the bar Not to remember the critical social compact that led to the development of the establishment of our country You know the the social compact that makes us all part of the government Makes the government part of us. You know that essential connection between the citizen and the government Why is it? It's a hard question, but why is it that american lawyers so many the majority if not the great majority Don't see this. They don't realize they don't recognize what you've been talking about I I I wish I knew the answer what I what I am Encountering I think is generally Uh a shared view by many many many lawyers that the system is Great that there is the system is corrupt That somehow the government has become the enemy I mean, I am intrigued by the the fact that so many lawyers are so concerned about not Being are concerned about their own reputations their own clients Being perceived as in any way a critical of existing power Remember that many of these lawyers at least in large big law represent major corporations represent wall street firms all of whom are doing well And most of those corporate executives are not taking positions at all in these things others And look at many legislative congressional people. I look at somebody like a lindsay graham I look at somebody like the senator from from ohio good good lawyers who Including mit romney who are sitting who are doing Not speaking at all to the issues about the rule of law Uh, they may not like the person. They may not think that president should tweet They don't think the president should be degraded Denigrating criticizing people and bullying people, but they will not stand up Because they're concerned about their own elections. They're concerned about being criticized by fox fox news They're critic their turn. They're they're afraid that their base will turn on them And therefore I am convinced now jay That the only answer here is going to be somehow That the people speak you you use the term. I mean john gardener spoke highly of these issues democracy is not a spectator sport Uh, and this is a government of buying for the people And his other third concept was that the most important office in democracy is the office of citizen Yeah, and frankly we as citizens are failing dramatically to be engaged To focus on Some of these things now some of these are illegal concepts and that's why lawyers I focus on particularly I mean maybe the average person does not understand why it's a problem when congress issues a request an executive agency for documents Uh, and that's viewed as partisan when in fact congress has the responsibility to oversee the executive Yeah, the essence of checks and balances But let me take you let me take you to the last question scott because we're almost out of time And it's my uh, it's it's my what can we do about it question? So if I watch this show if I listen to you scott Um, and if I you know appreciate and i'm a lawyer and I appreciate these things But I haven't done anything yet. I haven't signed the letter. I haven't taken any affirmative steps I've been trying to you know, push it off to the side somehow and lead my life Independent of all these things that are happening But I appreciate what you're saying and I agree with what you're saying And I want to do something. What do I do? Tell me what to do I think the The very first thing I would ask you to do j is to look at our open letter go to our website Lawyers Defending American Democracy and do two things one is look at the open letter and the statement of principles And if you agree fundamentally with With our statement and our examples that we give that you you become a signer of that letter The second thing is look at the other people who have signed look at the range of folks who have already joined this effort and third Begin to look a bit at the things we've posted in terms of the the articles the post and At the effort we're making Be non-partisan in dealing with us now we're being challenged about that because many people think that you can no longer simply Stand and focus just on describing things that you need that we need somehow to take action and take a position on The impeachment Specifically that we need to take a position on that whether the attorney general bar is violating his oath Many of the elected officials who are not Not here are criticizing the rule of law are violating their oaths as lawyers That is that kind of an attack syndrome which we have tried to avoid because it Simply seems to play into the general narrative But but my hope would be that if somebody does this I would then like them to write a letter to their local newspaper And explain why they as a lawyer as a lawyer Uh are concerned about what appear to be violations of core democracy principles I would like them as as uh as lawyers to reach out to their network of friends and simply say i'm signing I would be interested in and having you sign this document as well That's a great idea if the acting plan that's under it It's just there's some simple steps here now I'm not going to take the position that therefore we're going to change the world by doing it What I am going to say is that somebody somebody's going to look back here and say Where were you? Uh in the middle of these times of crisis this This by the way does not ask you to stop being a republican if you're republican It does not stop you from supporting the president if you support the president politically It does and the same way with democrats be an advocate in the civil or region be an advocate for lawyers for good government Take on all the causes you want all we're saying in addition is do what our fellow lawyers did An archibald cox By President Nixon and stand and deliver As law independent lawyers as members of legal profession and say this shall not stand and we We insist on the independence of this and the result of that was people need to remember It was Leon Jaworski and that special counsel continued archibald cox wasn't replaced doesn't return But they stood and delivered to make sure a good independent lawyer Question Thank you. Thank you Scott we we've we've we've run out of time. I'm sorry I hope we can continue this conversation because what we've been talking about will continue The same issues will rise up again. Uh, the same evolutions will be at hand So I hope we can talk again scott harshberger former attorney general of the state of massachusetts Now a practicing lawyer in in boston. Uh, we greatly appreciate your appearance on think tech I'm honored to be here. Thank you. Jay. Thank you scott. Aloha


and welcome to this week's preview show coming from Vitality Stadium. Head of Academy, Joey Roach joins us as we look ahead to tomorrow night's game in the Premier League. Coming up today, we'll be looking back at the weekend and discussing that narrow 3-2 defeat to Spurs. We'll also discuss the under-21s and their big Premier League Cup game tonight. And finally, we'll be looking ahead to tomorrow night's game at Salhas Park. But first, we are going to rewind the clock two days and start back at that 3-2 defeat to Spurs. Joey, it was a tightly fought affair and one that the cherries can take confidence from? Oh, I think so. You know, it gives opportunities for the players. There's always key players missing. I think to go to a stadium like Tottenham with the manager of the stand-in and the marina to go there and take on board all that background situations that go on in football, I thought they started particularly well. They're unfortunate, obviously not to finish the thing off, which is points are important, goals are important. So I think the manager and the players would take good stock from that. And two goals for Harry Walton as well? That must, you know, do wonders for him?  And Harry goes, comes on and finishes two goals. So I think it's fantastic for him. He's a very clever player, obviously free kicks, there's a speciality. So really pleased with him and more importantly pleased with the squad to have that addition coming on. And from your point of view, it must have been fantastic to have Gavin Kilkerny and Christian Sadie on the bench as well? Yeah, and obviously Jack Simpson there. So from the academy point of view, I think from an academy as a whole, you're waiting in anticipation of someone giving a chance. And the manager's done that over the last few seasons in the Premier League. So, you know, we're delighted as a staff. And for those players, particularly in their families, and Christian in particular, it's a fantastic, good news story for us. And Christian, he's obviously still an under 18 and he's had to overcome an injury as well this season. Well, he's come through a couple of adversities. He's got released by a club, he's come into here into a new club. He needed to work extremely hard, which he was doing with Alan and the staff. And then he succumbs to an injury here in the FA Youth Cup. Quite nasty injury for his attitude and the work that was done with the support staff around him from a physical point of view. Medically, I've got him back on his feet. And I think it's actually in some ways perversely, you don't want anyone to get injured. But I think it's actually given an opportunity to reflect on the opportunity. And he's come back in a great mindset. And obviously he's been trained at the first. See, the manager quite likes him, obviously. And yeah, absolutely delighted. He's a great kid. And, you know, collectively we're delighted for any player gets an opportunity. And as you said, training with the first team as well. I know there's been a few others, but for him, that's brilliant for his confidence. He's learning every day and he's learning off the best as well. Of course he is. And I think that says a lot about, you know, the staff who are coaching the teams at the younger age groups, you know, from Alan with the 18s, Mark Mosley and Sean Cooper, that the messages are fairly consistently. And we need to make sure the process is right. And I think when people go into training with the manager and the first team staff, I think they've got an idea of what's expected of them to agree. They'll have the physical challenge, obviously, and some of the technical tactical things which they need to improve on. But I think they can go in there and deal with that from a mental point of view. Then who knows. And for the rest of the lads in the academy and the youth team, they can look at the likes of Gavin Kilkenny, Jack Simpson and Christian Sadie. They can see they're involved with the first team. That can really be something for them to aspire to as well. I think so. You know, we keep talking to parents and players and particularly parents of players that we want to come in from outside our academy to say that this is who we are, this are the opportunities you've got if you do the right things. And actually we can run but stamp it at the end of the day when we can make statements like we did it. We can do it this weekend. I think Sam Surridge on Friday in the championship is another example. We had some players playing for Eastley in the FA Cup at the weekend who didn't get the journey with us but they've gone on and all credit to those players who play recently now at that level. You know, our job is to try and keep people in the game. And ideally for AFC Bournemouth but we need to develop in a way that they can go out and compete at another level. And you mentioned Sam Surridge there. Just a word on him because he's, you know, he's enjoying this playing spell with Swansea and he's recently been called up to the England under 21. He's having a good season, isn't he? He's fantastic. He's just progressed and progressed and progressed year on year. He was released by us and then brought back in. It's a fantastic story that we use to see him go out and compete in the championship which is not an easy league. I thought he did particularly well on Friday night. I watched the game. I spoke to him briefly and he's a great, great kid. So, you know, we wish him all the best while he's out. Absolutely. Well, next up for our under 21s it's a big Premier League Cup game against Southampton tonight. Dinesh Golela and Jordan Zamora have been talking to AFC BTV ahead of the game. Dinesh, obviously a huge game on Monday night in the Premier League Cup. Just tell us a bit about how excited the boys are to be facing Southampton. No, we're buzzing. We're buzzing to be fair. Obviously, we've prepped well. Obviously, this week has been prepped towards Southampton. We've got a win and a draw, so we're doing fairly well and obviously, we want to keep our momentum up and get the win against Southampton. So, Jordan, it's obviously a very important game in our cut run. Does it feel a bit different in the camp? Does it have a different feel this game? Yeah, of course. It's such a big game for us personally playing against Southampton, then the neighbours, so we're really excited for it. And personally, the camp's just buzzing and ready to go out there on Monday night. Obviously, we're away from home, so it's even going to be harder game and especially just something to look forward to as well. And Dinesh, we're unbeaten in the competition so far. That must give us plenty of confidence heading into this game. Yeah, I know we are unbeaten. We've played very well in both the games. Obviously, against Forrest, it was more of a defensive side towards the end and we showed our character and our resilience to get the three points there. Against Stoke, it was more of a different game. I think it was more balanced. We showed our qualities they showed theirs, but at the end of it, we got the result. We may not have won it at the time, but it was a good result in the end. So, we're going to pitch to Southampton and try to get three points there as well. And what are we expecting from Southampton, Jordan? It's a derby. It's an exciting game. It's a different sort of game for you boys. Yeah, definitely. Me personally, I look for games like that, just riled up, ready to play, especially like your opposition.  So, we're looking forward to be a very competitive game, a challenging game as well, because they're a very good team, like credit where credit is due, but I think us boys are ready and we've got to be more tougher and give that extra bit of grip to win the game. And just finally, we're streaming the game to YouTube. So, there's hundreds and thousands of people who could watch you. How much of a motivation is that to give you boys a bit more exposure in such a big game like this? No, it's massive for us and obviously, we know how supportive the fans are. We see them every weekend for the first team and hopefully they can do the same for us. Well, that was two of our under-21s previewing tonight's game against Southampton. Joe, it's going to be an interesting game, both Bournemouth and Southampton on beating in the Premier League Cup so far this season. Yeah, I mean, it's a local derby as well as a cup game. We've done particularly well without getting ahead of ourselves in the Premier League Cup. I mean, the coaching team and support staff of the 21s have done a really good job as have the players. You know, the games we've played here, I think the fans have come and watched and we've identified a Bournemouth way of playing and their attitude to the game has been exemplary. So, with that, you hope you get some results. Tonight's going to be another one of those games where hopefully we can progress and continue the journey through the season in that particular competition. And the Premier League Cup is a great competition, isn't it? Because, you know, you can play against some clubs who have a higher category academy and it's a great experience for our lads to, you know, play on pitches like the one just behind us here. Yeah, you know, we've got to create a fixture list at the moment until we hopefully get into category two. But the fact that Premier League Cup is there for us to play, as you say, in those types of stadiums against those levels of teams, it's a great extension to whatever other games we have. We want to be competitive at every level we can be. And, you know, so far the lads have shown a style of playing, a determination to sort of time win those games. And tonight with it being a local derby, they'll be really up for it, won't they? You know, just down the road against Southampton, obviously, they have to come here as well. But, you know, they'll be fired up for it, won't they? Of course, of course. I'd say it's a cup competition. So whichever level you play, you know, a local cup league or the FA Youth Cup or this particular cup in question, you want your lads to be competitive. And hopefully what you're doing in training every week is good enough to actually take the game at the weekend or during the week in this case. And for the under-20 ones, you know, they've, as you say, you have to create a fixture list. And it makes these games, you know, the competitive ones ever the more important. Yeah, you do because you want more of them. You know, you don't want to gap in the week where you haven't got a competitive game and you're trying to arrange one. So, you know, these opportunities come around but probably not often enough. And it's a good opportunity as well, you know, for the under-20 ones, they get some game time, the manager might watch it back, Sean Cooper can feed back. And it's a good opportunity for them to take a claim for themselves. Yeah, of course. I mean, you know, any young players playing in the 21s looks at this weekend and, you know, look at a 17-year-old Christian getting the opportunity. So, you know, they can't turn around and say it's not there for them, but they've actually got a, you know, they've got a grasp of opportunity when it comes. And if tonight's that opportunity, then they've got a grasp of opportunity. And for them, you know, this competition has been a really good one for us over the last few years. We've made the knockout stages and, you know, looked to progress and again, just, you know, continuing to get those games and playing against higher opposition. Yeah, we haven't. I mean, I know some of the staff from other clubs who've played, not even for us through the week, and they complimented, you know, some of our players and the way we played. And we've actually shown it really well, you know, and let's not make that negative in terms of we're an underdog, but I think we've done particularly well against what are theoretically, you know, higher-grade academies, if you like, are under-21 teams. So, you know, it's just a great opportunity again tonight to sort of continue that process. Absolutely. Well, that game tonight is going to be streamed on YouTube by the AFC Bournemouth Channel, so make sure you catch it from 7pm. Now then, next up for the first team is a trip to Crystal Palace tomorrow night, and Eddie Howe has been speaking in his pre-match press conference. Not much has changed in a couple of days in terms of the boys that are missing. From the game against Tottenham, we came through pretty much unscathed. Listen, you want to be winning regularly, and anytime you don't win, when you're in my shoes is a concern. We just have to look at our last three performances, and within those last three performances, the games that we've lost, we could have, the results could have been very different. Don't think there's a lot wrong with the team. I think we're in pretty good shape, but I think we have to be more consistent throughout the games. Even within those games, there's been slight inconsistencies that have ended up costing us the games, and this season is going to be no different, you know. It's a collective effort. It's everybody coming together, staying very strong in the difficult moments, staying very calm, and backing our ability. I expect Crystal Palace to play as they do, they're a dangerous team.  It's always a tough place to go and play football. An enjoyable place, but a tough place, and he's a very engaging character, a really good guy to speak to, and to get his teams very well organised. That's the hallmark of Roy Hodgson's teams. Well, that was Eddie Howe speaking in this morning's press conference. Joe, we always have tight games against Crystal Palace, and tomorrow shouldn't be any different, really, should it? I don't think so. They've got a really experienced manager, tactically very aware, you know, they'll have the team set up as the manager will fully know, and we just got to take advantage of the opportunities we had on Saturday and just take that forward into tomorrow night's game, and obviously finish off those chances that we created. But, yeah, we're not short of belief, and the current squad in the mix of players we've got now, you know, we've got the ability to go away and hopefully take the points that are required certainly before the Christmas period comes around. Absolutely. It's going to be a busy Christmas period, and Eddie Howe, we please have Philip Billing and Simon Francis back. We've both served one game suspensions, and to have those just even in backing around the squad, that would be great for the lads. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.  You know, Philip's come in from this field and done really well. So, you know, sometimes, bizarrely, coming out of it to go back in, not that Simon would have wanted that to happen. You know, you've got those players coming back into the fold, which is fantastic. It's a plus as opposed to a minus, obviously. And as Eddie Howe said in this pretty much press conference, you know, the last two, three performances, we might not have won, but there's been really positive signs there, and we've ended really strongly against Wolves, for example, and then against Spurs on the weekend scoring two late goals, and we can really build on that, can't we? Yeah, there's not a gulf between the sides that we play. You know, there's obviously a little bit of quality in some areas of the pitch, which might be able to take that little bit of advantage. But, you know, in terms of the games I've watched, you know, there's not been a chasm between, you know, the opposition and ourselves. It's just that little whatever one percent it is that gets you over the line. And, you know, we just got to keep doing what we're doing and keep with the manager's beliefs in place, which won't change. And, you know, we've proven that we've been able to meet any adversity in the season. You know, the Christmas one is always a huge one. You know, so, you know, we're looking forward to another game in the Premier League tomorrow night. And as for Palace, one win and six. That win did come on the weekend against Burnley at a 2-0 win. They'll be really looking to get points on the board, won't they? Just as we will be before, as you say, a hectic Christmas period. Yeah, of course, at home. But, you know, you look at the results so far in the Premier League, you know, if you can determine what they're going to be, then, you know, then you need to be doing the lottery. So we just got to go there with the same beliefs we've had all season. You know, they'd be very well prepared. You know, the manager and the team know all about Palace as they will about us. And we just got to have that edge, whatever the edge is, to try and take the points tomorrow night, whether that's one or three. Obviously, you want the three. Absolutely. Well, if you want to have a go at predicting the score tomorrow night, you can head over to the Mansion Bette website and take part in their new Predict Six game. That's all we've got time for today. If you are going up to Cellhouse Park, do have a safe journey. But if not, we'll have free live commentary on AFCB TV for you to follow. Bye for now.


Hi, Yanni. Many congratulations on being awarded your honoris causa in Barcelona. I hope you have a fantastic day. And I very much look forward to seeing you again once this whole pandemic is over. Bye. Yanni, congratulations on this wonderful award. I just wish you could be there in person. And thank you again for all the wonderful science you've done and wonderful times in tubing. Have a wonderful day. Congratulations. Dear Yanni, congratulations on your award, yet another one. It was a privilege working with you, learning from you. Those memories I cherish and the lessons that I learned motivate me to be a good scientist all the time. Thank you. Hi, Yanni. Many congratulations. Yanni, congratulations. This is a well-deserved honor, and I hope you're enjoying the ceremony. All the best and congratulations and my admiration as always. Dear Yanni, congratulations. Dear Yanni, congratulations from me and from the whole lab. Dear Yanni, congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations, Yanni. Congratulations. Congratulations.


Hello friends, welcome back to another episode here on the channel, I hope you're all doing great and for anyone new to the channel my name is Lee also known as Osiris and in today's episode we're going to be continuing on with our VGC Series 8 content and before we get into the details of the team I just want to say we are playing another rental code today but if you have a rental code of your own you'd like to see featured on the channel do drop it down below just a quick description just the Pokemon that's in it and the rental code would be enough and I would love to feature it on the channel obviously if I don't feature it straight away don't get too downbeat I will try and make my way through any team that is posted as soon as I can so getting on to today's team it is a bit special for a couple of reasons we've got a Mewtwo here it's not a very common restricted Pokemon we see played in the format the minute so for that reason alone very exciting and I know there's a bunch of you out there that would have requested a Mewtwo team played on the channel so hopefully this fills a little bit of a void for you there and the other reason it's very special is because this team has actually been made by the 2017 world champion who's just recently posted on their Twitter line that is Ryohto or Tubo very exciting series 8 team you can see the Mewtwo has weakness policy makes sense because you've got the screen support from the Grim Snarl you've got a very nice tech between the Grim Snarl and Regie Alecki where you can go suck a punch assurance and get a little bit of a boost and I'm sure the assurance is something that you can use on your own Mewtwo to proc that weakness policy as well got psychic seed with the psychic search tapulele there just to boost those special defenses which is great got a really good trick room check in Gigalith to come in with the life orb so it's going to be hitting super hard wide guard support there is really nice and then the anti which kind of helps out against a bunch of things and it's a really annoying Pokemon in this format especially with that assault vest so there's a rental code if you want to try it out for yourselves I hope you have a lot of fun with it Ryohto's socials I'll all be linked down in the description if you want to check out his Twitter and other socials just give them a follow he's a great guy and obviously a great team builder and don't worry if you don't pick up the rental now I'll be throwing it up at the end of the episode so we'll have a couple of games of the team will play it see how it feels talk it through and there hope you enjoy it and then we'll throw the rental up to finish on okay so first up today we have a team of Kyogre Tornades Incinero Amungus Kartana and Regie Alecki so it's pretty much your standard Tornaga kind of build that we're seeing played at the minute we've seen it all series 8 and I don't think it's going to wear anywhere soon looking at the options on the team you've got the consistency of the tailwind on the Tornades the Kyogre that will just take advantage of that tailwind you've got the fake out intimidate support from the Incinero the trick room kind of cover from the Amungus and redirection support that I caught on your late game Pokemon to come in benefits from the rain and then Regie Alecki another former speed control and just a very fast option on your opponent's team so what are we gonna do what are we gonna do here I think Grimmsnall Regie Alecki is not bad I mean we get our screen support up and there can take advantage of Regie Alecki do lots of stuff that we need to I think the big key is still not the trick room turns if we can which is always always going to be really beneficial and I think we'll go this this do you want Tapulele here hmm maybe not so much I mean the psychic season bad with the boost there that you get but I think I would probably lean more on on kind of these Pokemon in this match so gigalits always useful though you know to change the weather and the why God supports good but you know when we haven't got a trick room mode of our own to kind of benefit from it directly things like Amungus and definitely Cartana causes all sorts of issues so it doesn't feel like the most favorable thing whereas anti can come in and cause all sorts of issues especially if we can remove the Kyogre pretty early on which is gonna be like a big key for us here you know so Kyogre hitting the field tornadoes we have Thunder Wave which is always really nice I think light screen makes a lot of sense straight away for us doesn't it I mean we do have the focus sash as well which is always useful and we could we could just like straight away just straight up electro web I don't think there's any reason like that would be a bad play because it'll take the the tornadoes down or take it to a sash and do a good chunk of damage to the Kyogre as well and we shouldn't go down well we definitely won't go down unless they double into us but even if they do with the light screen support okay we should be alright so real I don't mind this at all you know that just gives us an extra turn to kind of play around with double protect here and it's kind of yeah I mean because this next time we can just go for a Thunder Wave into the Kyogre and Thunderbolt I mean do they are inch and pulse or do they water spark here that's the thing you know the Electroweb is useful against the tornadoes because it just chips it down a little bit more kind of inclined to go for the Electroweb again just because the double damage that we can get yeah and we see the tailwinds which makes sense I guess that the the protect and warn us to kind of get around potential fake out that we have here and you don't want to max your Kyogre then it makes sense to make that play so you're gonna get the Electroweb off before the Kyogre can really do anything we do have a light screen up as well which is super useful tornadoes very threatened this next turn as well and the water spark won't hit as hard we've got the light screen up but oh my god oh my god it still does so much damage so much damage okay I think we go suck a bunch into tornadoes now and then we got Thunderbolt into Kyogre just to make sure because it's like a bunch you'll get the tornadoes and and then the Thunderbolt will get the Kyogre so we don't really need to worry about that any longer which is always useful but yeah that's that was about what's about just ridiculous isn't it you know it's taking it taking such a chunk of damage and still there's so much behind a light screen it's ridiculous but we're not in the worst spot ready like you're coming in and Cartana I think what we'll do is Thunderbolt Thunderwave the Cartana slot right down make it's not so much of a threat we've got two turns of tailwind from my opponent left haven't we I mean to get around like we could just protect here it's a little bit do I do I just go for an electric weather let it go down just if they max and then attack into us it feels a bit redundant to go for the protect but I mean they would knock us out anyway so I mean it's just to stall this tailwind out really like it's not really gonna matter too much against the the Reggie a lecky we'll see what this if it's a cartana going for the max here I would imagine it would be yeah just if we can paralyze this then it means that anti can come in and it pressures it's so much harder you know see they might go into the the Reggie a lecky here and imagine that's probably what they do but although they may not as well they may just go electro web and when they go for the Thunderbolt into the Reggie a lecky so they may go and steal spike yeah okay and that will take us down which is unfortunate because we don't get our reflective but I think it's underway it might be more useful the beast boosts not ideal at all you to onto the field now yeah if we max me to our we need to stall out the that we need to stall out the yeah what we'll do is we need to stall out this tailwind and then I think if we protect this turn and then try an electro web that would be really useful if you get electro web off but I just don't see us being able to get an electric web off the problem is if the cartana gets another beast boost then it's kind of hard to handle you know and all the time that the the opposing Reggie a lecky has the electric web where it can kind of lower our speed and take advantage of us that way we might be able to get an electric web off which is I think a bit of an oversight for my opponent like in all honesty I think now me too it speeds everything so we can just nuke the Reggie a lecky the next turn they are paralyzed okay well that's tailwind ends we need to the big thing is here we need to remove the Reggie a lecky from the field which we'll be able to do I mean we could assurance as well might not be a bad play you know go assurance proc the weakness policy and then get rid of the Reggie a lecky and then me too sitting in a phenomenal spot against the cartana is plus one so we have to be a little bit careful around it but we do have anti to come in it will outspeed it as long as we can remove the speed control from my opponent side of the field then we kind of lock this game up though against cartana regardless of how many boosts it gets a bit unfortunate for my opponent that it was paralyzed that last turn so let's see what goes on is the assurance a nice little bit of chip damage there and it gives you it's a nice option because I think you do really have room for on Reggie a lecky when when you know still out speeds us after the draw okay miscalculation there okay and what's the cut on I mean we're still fine because the rain's gone and you still got anti and if me too can stick around here just about we've got the max flare the next turn so we can set up the sun as well for anti which is which is super nice and yeah caught on now not maxed definitely just yeah got no chances next turn unfortunately for my opponent so we'll go thunderbolt and we'll go max flare hopefully we can get the max flare off stealing stealing the thunder from that me too there but very good game to my opponent nice one for us to kick off with today seeing me to an action of course it's always a lot of fun and this team honestly feels really good it feels really good it's got a lot of nice options in it I know we've only had one game with it but you know you get a feel sometimes for a team that's the thing so we'll move on I'll find the next upon the episode okay next up we've got a team of Urshifu Raichu Katana Tornades Ludicolor and Kyogre so how are we gonna approach this one again regi like you're gonna be very useful we've got to be wary about the ludicolor with its fake out support and pairing up with that Kyogre and doing lots of things to disrupting kind of support the Kyogre pretty well to win support Raichu's a little bit awkward because of the the ability to kind of just disrupt Regi Alecki here which makes it a little bit more awkward than not having that inclusion so is it better off that we go I think it's green support can be useful always I think screen support Regi Alecki's always gonna be useful in this match I think the end site and then me too again I think are gonna be the the ones because it's lately gonna be really that useful I mean for the psychic train yes if the ludicolor decides to go down the fake out route but for the Raichu I guess but for those two odd occasions I don't really see it doing too much else other than giving me to a booster we technically don't necessarily need so today right so it's a lot of Kyogre kind of ludicolor on the ladder at the minute it's kind of something that's picking you can see it's picking up in it a bit of usage from from certain players on the ladder which is interesting and we got Raichu and tornadoes coming out for my opponent and there's always the option where we potentially just I don't really want to lose the sash on Alecki so I'm gonna protect this turn just to get around a potential fake out because you're kind of like to work here you know but yeah gone into the the Grim Snow you're gonna see tailwind just fine the kind of waste in the tornado when doing this anyway so a big job here is gonna be trying to get rid of the tornadoes as soon as possible I think with your electoral web here I don't really mind too much you get given the Raichu the boost it's likely to vault switch out anyway and if it does vault switch out then it means we've got an electoral web that you can utilize pretty freely and if they don't switch it out then they're stuck with tornadoes in Raichu on the field which is really not doing too much and just wasting their tailwind turns so we're kind of in an alright position and in all honesty they've got to kind of react and switch something in somewhere to make use of these tailwind turns because right now that neither Pokemon really do very much I could speak too soon in the Raichu could bop us but we'll see I see wind coming out breaks our sash yep which is fine and then the vault switch okay I will take that all day long because now Kyoga is gonna hit the field we're gonna be able to electoral web it and do some significant damage to this tornadoes as well oh it's cotton okay that's still not as bad you know and kind of preserving that Kyoga I think till the late very late in this game I think you're my opponent and okay well we'll sit on I think we'll go for a reflect while we got the opportunity to and we'll go for an electoral web again get rid of the tornadoes take away that take away the ability for them to be able to utilize tailwind which is always useful you know I think identifying in any team that you kind of playing against and whether they're the kind of key speed control supporters and then kind of prioritizing that so if we do get rid of the tornadoes here we only got one turn a tailwind to kind of stall out after this and then as long as Regi like he stills around which it should be should be after this turn unless we see the carton of max it might go full okay the right you come back in it's also not super bad and we are gonna give right you a free boost but great great great great great okay that's not ideal not really too much we can do about that we need to stall out this this tailwind okay what will do bring me to in oh we could suck a punch could suck a punch the carton is like plus one so we'll outspeed me to yeah let's bring in anti and let's just protect me to here I ideally want to be like on suck a punch max me to snipe the carton a Kyogre is gonna be in the back losing the Regi like he did there to the crit not ideal but it happens it happens you know it's a high crit chance move so we have to kind of deal with that see what we can do with our entire it's a pretty safe switching as well for anti here I don't think like if you're Cortana you you may go after them you too but it's more likely that you probably concentrate down on the Grim snarl because it's it's that support kind of option for us that's been a bit disruptive so and if anything you're gonna see a smart strike into that slot see what the right you does pick out okay it's fine blade into me too alright that's fine tailwind pit is out so we're in a good spot now we're in a really good spot because a secret fire get the Cortana right she's playing is the right you sashed potentially it'll be a solvest as well might be worth doubling into the right you know honesty and because we could snarl just the carton is at the beast boost so that's kind of what worries me a little bit and I don't want to get paralyzed from the right you like it goes for a nuzzle pretty screwed that's why an extreme speed into right you and then Max mindstorms probably the better idea okay imagine it's probably is it sashed I would imagine so don't know the tornadoes felt like it was maybe a little I don't know if it was bulkier took a lot of damage from that the electoral web but I guess if you've got right you and your team you're not as threatened by the electric type of tax and you've got fake out as well double fake out which helps so make sense that maybe the right you is the sash more and I don't know but whatever we need to make sure that we do remove it from the field because that's the biggest issue now the thing is with tornadoes coming back on the field is worth still not gonna be able to get up its tailwind so we're still not in a bad spot and we'll see a leaf blade here from the Cortana yeah thankfully because we're max we take that a little bit more comfortably no crit there as well which is useful and yeah we'll be able to extreme speed the tornadoes get rid of it before it can tailwind which is always useful even with the psychic terrain up because it's floating it doesn't really matter and we'll be able to get that max flare into Cortana and remove it from the field get the sun up even though it'll be overwritten when the Kyogre comes on to the field this is a beauty about anti you know that extreme speed just making sure that you know you've really been able to kind of punish those pranks the users if you get a little bit of chip on them earlier on and yeah yeah Cortana gonna go down pretty hard here and then Kyogre coming in but we'll be able to deal that pretty easily because we can snarl max bind storm and that should be enough to deal with it even though well max and probably go for the nuke on to the I don't know nuke the entire now you got you nuke to me too and said I didn't really worry too much although the consistent snarl abuse is pretty annoying so maybe go down that route maybe max mine storm for the Kyogre and we'll be able to pick up the knockout okay they are maxing yeah max flare might have been an option as well just to change the weather that plus snarl kind of puts us in a super nice position but see how much this does and see if we can take I mean we still got a light green up so us we're not like in a terrible spot you know the minus one Kyogre such a bulky Pokemon isn't it disgusting I love the whale it's so good not featured in enough really on the channel you know and they're gonna take a chunk yeah not not taking that any day of the week unfortunately we still got grim snarl they're kind of coming I think you can sucker punch ourselves I'm pretty sure we can because it's I'm pretty sure we can pretty sure we can I'm pretty sure we can to proc our weakness policy if you get your partner in Pokemon you can hit I don't think the psychic train affects that so we should be able to sucker punch our own me too hopefully it doesn't take us down that would be the worst because if it takes us down then I look like a fool I assume it probably will no no no we we are able to take it thankfully sweating so much then like it's gonna do a lot but me too able to do itself plus two in the psychic terrain able to take it down guarantee that knockout onto the Kyogre and pick up a second wind of the episode two really nice winds there today and show the different I guess like how the team performs against certain archetypes and stuff like that so kind of really nice to see in good games my opponent making them very difficult for us to to kind of play as free a game as we kind of would have liked so we'll wrap things up there we'll jump over and get that rental code for you once again just to remind you if you want to try this team up for yourselves right friends here is the rental code for today's team big shout out to Ryoto for actually sharing this with the online community and giving us the opportunity to play this team today it's been a lot of fun playing this me too team I've had like and I will be playing more of it because it's just one of those teams I think it's really interesting to see how it does and performs on the ladder and see how kind of high we can push it so I will be streaming this week I'll be interested to see how far we can kind of push it if you try this team out for yourself definitely let me know down in the comment section below I'd love to hear how you get on with the team and I'll wrap it up there friends so thank you so much for tuning in have a great rest of your day and I'll see you all for another episode very soon and so until then take care and bye bye


At the very least though, most of them work hard for their magical abilities. Some of them cultivating it through skill and experience, others answering to a higher power, some having a co-dependent relationship with the arcane, and some lucky enough to have their parents bang a mystical creature and receive a small genetic loan of a million mana.  Instead, you'll be relying on the mystical, magnificent mass of magics. Except in this case, not really relying on, and more like bullying it into doing what you want. Sorcerers are those who disrespect the rules of magic and can easily manipulate it, like it's some young adult who's desperate for food that isn't microwaved or takeout. Maybe that's why your hit die is the one used for Monopoly games.  The sork de soleil's metamagic feature means you can enhance the spells you cast by paying off the essence of arcane with the inheritance money you got from your magical parents and allows you to influence your spells to take on a variety of effects to your liking. Its effects include, but are not limited to, biased AoEs, angry AoEs, spells that gotta go fast, say, no, ah, I totally got you, I hit your shirt, clothing counts, get an extended spell warranty, double penetration, or even cast with the sound of your armpit farts if you don't feel like talking that day. And you can do all that and more by using your sorcery points, which has got to be the two most absolutely nerdiest words you could ever put together in a single phrase. It's also a weirdly effective safe word because it allows your magical BDSM to stop so your spell slots can catch their breath and recover. With archetypes, you have squishy clerics, zippy zappy, casty, blasty, watch for the lightning, it gets nasty. Darkness, darkness, darkness, scaly and denial. And the only one that really matters is the Wheel of Wild Magic, where you and whatever other lucky souls nearby get to experience the high octane thrills of randomness.  Who knows what crazy, helpful, and or harmful effects could happen due to your gambling addiction. Let's spin that wheel and see how wild we can get! I may have spun it a little bit too hard because of my stonkingly huge muscles, so we'll just let that go for a while. Now, the main difference between the three arcane casters is how they get their magic. While wizards take years studying for the ACT and warlocks keep having to pay interest to their demon lord shareholders, Sorcerer's magic comes from the fact that they were born inherently talented instead of needing to do any actual work. That's why your casting ability is charisma, because we totally need more of those, and just because you can cast spells doesn't necessarily mean you're smart. But who cares what's smart when you can cast big spells with big effects so your big numbers can turn the big baddies into big piles of jeblete experience points? Insert fireball joke. And now you know how to play Sorcerer, you're welcome.