That was to turn the volume up. So this is Martin and Eloise talking about Python in the classroom, awesome. Cool. Yep, hello. So my name is Martin Henchke. This is Eloise. You probably know her better than you know me. And today we're going to be talking about, I'll just have to be there, yep. So yep, I'm a PhD student at ANU in Australia. And yourself? Hi, I'm from Tasmania. I'm a web developer and a student. So I work part-time as a web developer and, yeah, still studying my computing degree. Yep. So yep, we're just here today to talk to you a bit about a couple of trials that we've been doing and some experiments that we've run through that's been looking at using Python as a teaching resource in primary and high school classrooms mostly. So kind of starting off this whole idea, sort of looking at literacy and numeracy rates, which is the heart of Tasmanians in Australia. So literacy and numeracy are both, I think, we can all agree, extremely important skills, particularly for the 21st century, as we move further away from like more sort of mechanical-based jobs and that sort of thing. We're moving towards much more intelligence-based jobs, where requirements be able to process information and have good numerous skills are becoming increasingly important as those other jobs become automated and things. So having really high levels of education is extremely important in schools today. So the literacy rates when you look at it on, say, Wikipedia, which is where those numbers came from, are fantastic. New Zealand has a wonderful 99% literacy rate, which is very, very high. Australia has 96%, which is still very good. And that number sounds really fantastic until you dig a bit more into it. So this graph comes from the ABS, and it demonstrates the level of literacy that all Australians have. And if you classify yourself as being literate, then you're level one or above. Level one is the ability to understand brief bits of information or text that is on a familiar subject. So for example, being able to go shopping or something is something that you can do if you have that basic level literacy. But if you're looking at jobs that require like a sort of a more high level of reading ability, then things like being able to process large amounts of information, possibly in web pages where you might have conflicting information going as well, that's closer to level three or four, and that's getting closer to sort of 15% of the population that has that skill. What lower than it looks like on the surface? Yeah, and so in Tasmania in particular, where I'm from, a few years ago it was reported that we had about 68% functional illiteracy. Literacy, sorry. Numbers certainly can probably have room for improvement particularly sort of as we move on to this sort of topic in the future, there we go. So I'm not sure, yeah, certainly in Australia and indeed many other parts in the world, there's a big push at the moment to try to get programming much deeper into the education system, being much more common. At the moment it's like a very, very small margin of schools will teach programming as part of their sort of broad curriculum. It's becoming more prevalent, particularly in the UK where programs have been put through as well. It's being debated in Parliament in Australia at this very moment, but yeah, it still has a little bit of a way to go. Yeah, as you guys saw the keynote this morning from GoFleaning, they're awesome. I highly recommend a lot of their stuff. So yeah, there's a big push for it and in the UK they've adopted it where there's a lot of code clubs and things in Australia right now, but it hasn't quite got there yet. But why the teach programming? I'm pretty sure that was semi-covered in the keynote this morning. It's not about telling them that it's the new literacy. We tried to approach it from the angle if maybe it will inspire them to want to be more literate. So in Tasmania there's, and possibly other places, there's a bit of a culture of devaluing education. So there are actually people out there I've had friends making fun of me because I went to university because they just think education is a waste of time and I was luckily not brought up in that sort of environment and I think it's a bit sad that they weren't either. I think education is great and I start strongly encourage everyone to be as educated as they possibly can. But yeah, so there's a culture of devaluing education and so people who might otherwise have wanted to go off and do those things are kind of told, no, don't do that. And that makes me sad and I can understand some of the reasons behind it and so I thought maybe if we made a workshop to kind of teach them how to make a game because a lot of kids really like games that maybe they'll see that there's some uses for being literate other than just to go to school. So yeah, so that's how the idea kind of came about. I also wanted to help some other things so I wanted to kind of push diversity as well. I wanted to go out to a lot of rural areas to help the less well-funded primary schools and kind of get some coding workshops out there because I really want coding to be open to anyone and everyone. I was really sad. I came from a rural area and I didn't really get to do anything with coding until first year university so I still feel very new and I'm playing catch up a lot of the time. But yeah, so we wanted to try and get these students and see if they actually wanted to learn about programming. Hopefully you'll find out that we did that and if we did it okay. So we developed a set of exercises. We'll find out about the tools we used to that in a bit and we kind of, we gave those to the kids to do. We basically just taught them very basic kind of things. Control structures and Boolean logic and just started from the basics to work their way out. So yeah, and then we wanted to give them something that they could then put all those skills and use. So Martin created a game. Yes, so the tools we used, we used Python 2.7 and Pygame. In the situation where I had done this I had up until that point never actually used Python so I got to spend 36 hours learning to do so to make a game for kids, which was an enlightening experience just in time for it to not matter, which is nice. Anyway, so yeah, so that was the tool that we used. I think that's been updated now to three, which is why I say it's no longer quite as helpful as perhaps it once was. That was the, yeah, so we used that particular thing as well for our teaching materials. We provided them using like a gift book format. Yeah, so last year I went to a Django Girls workshop. They're really great workshops and they used gift book to deliver all their content and it's a really cool tool. I'm not sure if we can show it to you or not. I'm afraid not. Maybe not if you want to see it or you can just Google gift book now. Most of you have laptops. And so yeah, it's basically like an online book. It's got chapters on the side. It has tick marks so that when students progress through the thing it has a tick and says, hey, you've already done that chapter. Yeah, it's basically just a book and you can format things nicely. The workshops may not be formatted as nicely as they could be. So we tried to cover just very basic simplistic programming concepts, just enough to be able to get a feel for not only how programming languages work but also to give our students enough flexibility to be able to play around with these sorts of things as well. So things like just basic variable declarations, manipulations, stuff like that, a bit of looping, a bit of conditionals and taskings they can make little decision trees that they can use for making small games in their free time or just for sort of getting a vague idea for the general concept of those things. So really just a very broad, just adult approach to sort of these basic things with much more focus on the application of what they were doing as opposed to the actual theory, which I think is perhaps otherwise would have made the experience a little bit less interesting for the students. That was sort of the focus we went from. Where's the mouse gone? There we go. OK, so the game that I made, I had designed it in a way that it was supposed to be like a very basic ability to be able to interact with the world in like a casual way, but it also had to be extendable.  If I read that sign, I want a little bit of text to pop up, and I want to have simplistic sort of structures and macros. They could just modify the code very simplistically so they could put in those features as easily as possible. That was the sort of the idea behind this game.  So they have their own sort of thing they can go from. We also tried to build it to be as, I guess, self-documented as clear as possible so that if they wanted to, after the workshops were complete, they could go home and they could say, right, that was a lot of fun. Let's see if I can make him go in this direction now. See if I can make him shoot bullets or something like that. Just as a feature they could possibly do in their own time. That was sort of the goal of that game, I think. That was one of the other reasons we used Gitbook. A lot of the workshops we did were split over like a few sessions once a week. And so if they had Gitbook, they're allowed to work ahead or catch up as much as they wanted to. We didn't want to control their pace too much because some people already knew a lot of stuff and some people didn't. So Gitbook was a really good tool for them to be able to still be at the back of the class doing stuff and we had mentors going around. So it didn't matter if they were lagging behind or just steaming ahead. We were still able to help them out. Ah, so, with the first workshop, we approached some schools. We ended up going back to my old school, which was exciting. I was really lucky. I went to a private school. And so it had all the resources for us because unfortunately when we started this, we didn't have an army of laptops to take out to some of the less well-resourced schools. So yeah, they all had laptops. They all had Macs, so we didn't have to worry about installing Python initially. It did mean that we were working with 2.7, which at the time wasn't a problem since then the workshop is being updated to Python 3. So yeah, and we had about 20 to 25 students which was a lot it turned out. So we were expecting maybe 10 to 15, but so many students apparently really wanted to learn to code that the teachers just couldn't say no. And yeah, so they each had their own MacBook and we just kind of rocked up one day and ran the workshop. We had two sessions of three hours, so in total it was a six hour thing, but we've worked out since then that a whole six hour day is not quite as effective and nowhere near as easy. Yeah, the first thing we noticed when we did these trials is that a lot of these kids are already coding with almost no understanding of the fact that that was there beforehand. So a lot of them had been doing, or almost all of them I think had actually had some exposure to Scratch and some of them had some pretty impressive stuff in that particular program. Scratch, if you're unfamiliar with it, kind of like an IDE, but it doesn't require to actually physically write code, you kind of just drop blocks into place and it will sort of do the work for you. So you just sort of fill in the variables and the values and things and it'll work from there. So it just removes the danger of syntax errors and things and sort of has this structure sort of built out for you as well as some previous things. So they all had some exposure to that. They also, a lot of them had some exposure to Minecraft and so they had been doing some sort of very basic redstone stuff in that as well, which is sort of relevant, perhaps not quite so much. But yeah, they were surprisingly computer literate and quite competent. Some of them knew how to play Tetris in Emacs. I don't know how to do that. We were like, oh yeah, this is awesome Tetris game. And I was like, you're using Emacs. Do you even know what this is? It was kind of impressive. They've had the laptops for a while and they use them every day. So I guess you find out stuff like that. So yeah, they knew more than I did about Macintosh, this was certain. Unfortunately, we discovered a lot of these skills did not translate well into Python directly. So even those who had like a lot of exposure to Scratch, apparently that drag drop structure just does not translate that clearly through concepts. And so when we actually gave them effectively the same code just without those little blocks, it was much harder for them to understand. So I think there's a bit of a disconnect in terms of knowledge there that was quite important to acknowledge at the time in how that works. We found Scratch worked really well to introduce programming before they can read and write. So maybe like year two is probably nearing the end of that. I've used, since then I've showed off Blockly a few times from Goff Learning and that works a lot better because they've got really nicely formatted code. I think you might have seen it earlier today in the keynote. But yeah, I'm a big fan of Blockly, sorry. But yeah, Scratch just is a bit too much of a sideways step. I taught some kids two weeks ago and they literally had Scratch up and they were doing the exact same thing as like we were showing them in Python. And it was just amazing the disconnect between that just cause like they weren't connected enough. But I showed them Blockly and they seem to just get it as soon as that happens. So that's one thing that Scratch I think could improve upon there. So yeah, lots of kids kind of already know a lot. Like I think they're called natives, IT natives now or something. And that's great. But they're not really understanding what they're doing. So that's always fun to deal with. We had some really fun questions in our first workshop where one kid actually knew a bit of Python which was really exciting. But he really liked Scratch as well. And so one kid asked him if Python was more powerful than Scratch. And this kid was like, well, Python's really cool but Scratch is more powerful. So that led to some really interesting discussions. And I can understand where they're coming from. It's instant gratification for them in Scratch. We had to do a bit of explaining on the Python side of things. But yeah, so we figured out that we don't really want to use Scratch anymore. But yeah, so the teachers really loved the workshop. They instantly drew parallels between kind of grammar and syntax and programming languages. Also when you teach Hello World programs to make sure that they put proper grammar and capital letters and teachers really, really love that. But yeah, we found our game wasn't as successful as it could have been. Yeah, I blame that mostly on Pygame. The big problem with those libraries is because they use object orientation which is a difficult thing to get through in two, three hour workshops to people who are still trying to understand what a variable is in programming is the fact that as a consequence a lot of the Pygame codes that I wrote looks rather complex, perhaps a bit too much for after six hours of Python teaching, do you have to do that much with it? So as a consequence, it was difficult for students to comprehend it. So instead of making that like a take home task or like a play around thing, we did a thing where we just sort of had the code on the screen and then I would show changes that the kids wanted to make and I just sort of performed, like it sort of see how making modifications to the program would impact the way that it played or the way that it was interacting stuff. So yeah, and so the kids would ask, okay, let's make the person a blob and then say, okay, let's give the blob a wife or something, and it would just be these sorts of little things that sort of go back and forth and be able to sort of show them just by adding little lines of code. So although I didn't give them the chance to really do that much themselves, which is really unfortunate, that's kind of why we did it. It still gave them a good appreciation of just, you know, these small little changes that can make sort of a very powerful impact on the program. And then gee, that just that general like agency that you have as a programmer when you're interacting, I think, which I think was still quite beneficial, which is really nice. It also really demonstrates, I think, because things like Scratch and Minecraft are so popular with children and they're being used these vectors for teaching these concepts, that those really interactive, engaging ways, particularly like those sort of, you know, almost game-like environments, are a really excellent way of connecting with these students. If we just sort of try to sit them down and say, all right, we're gonna cover some C code all this week, they will be asleep by Tuesday. So again, I just began to present it in such an interactive way and sort of that very fun sort of way. I think had a really good impact on helping the people that we were talking to really sort of get their head around these concepts in a way that they found really engaging. So that was one of the big benefits, I think, that it had. And yeah, I think in the future, it will be able to, if we can find some way, be able to refine that down a bit. That would be a fantastic concept to move on with. Yeah, we're working on rewriting the entire Pi game to make it more much, the game we made in Pi game anyway, which make it more modular just so there is more understandable bits. Because they've done some amazing things with it, like some kids have just taken it and run with it. And it's always really interesting going to look at their code afterwards because they just put things in, they sort of make sense, but they're in really odd places. Like one of the slides we had before had an example of a student's work and they'd made a second player, a blob, as a pet and it follows them around and then it also can be controlled by the WASD keys, while the first player controls the arrow keys. But the way they'd done that was they hadn't actually altered any of the other code, they'd just gone straight to main.Pi and put it all into there, which is good. I was so proud of them for figuring out how to do it. But it was interesting listening to them explain why they put it there. And it was basically that's how they got it to work, rather than any other reason. But yeah, so we've also found since we've taught Python, some students have decided that they don't like Python, which is sad, but understandable that if you don't like it, don't like it. I don't think their reasoning was great, but they'll work on that. They decided they didn't like Python so much that they would use Python to write their own programming language, which was really impressive. It was basically they just made shapes effectively. I think they just made a turtle kind of thing. And they use Python, but it's like to make their own language. It was, they entered it for a competition. I think they did pretty well, but it was extremely satisfying to see them do that, even if they did say they hated Python. Yeah, so we've seen a lot of really good things come from this. So some students actually don't really like playing with the game. They just haven't been that into it. From that, they've decided instead to make text adventures. So I think one of the slides a little while ago also showed one of those and they've just made like ridiculously long text adventures, which is really good because it really worked into the whole literacy thing. I feel like those students may have been quite literate before anyway, but it was really good to see them explore kind of other avenues and that creativity just using programming. And they always get so excited as soon as they get anything to print as well. Yeah, absolutely. The outcomes, I think world speaking, were really, really positive. So yeah, one of the big questions we were, so I guess we are sort of near the top here is like say, can we use Python as a good tool engagement in schools? It turns out, yes, it's a fantastic language to use in schools. I think the thing- It's not exactly revolutionary, we know. Yeah, no, no, this is not news to anyone, I understand. But it was to me when we did this. But yeah, it was really fortunately very easy to pick up most of the syntax in Python one or two things, particularly the white spacing was challenging for a few kids. But broadly speaking, that combined with just having a little bit less structures in the way and boilerplate and stuff in the way just made this a really, I guess for a dynamic and easy environment to work with that made this a fantastic option for schools. It's like say, I guess it's early days to talk about, I guess, more disadvantage of schools and seeing if there's gonna have much benefits there as I did here. But yeah, I would say this on the whole looks like a very positive step in that sort of direction. So, many more of these to come in the future. All goes well. Anything to add? We're still getting lots of requests from schools in Tasmania to do more of these workshops, which is really exciting, because Tasmania recently got Code Club. It's some sort of international club to get students coding. I don't actually know a lot about it, but Tasmania, the Tasmanian government made a deal and they now have 25% of Australia's Code Clubs, which is pretty impressive, because Tasmania is very small. They only have like 500,000 people or something. And they just taught their 1,000 students. So, I thought with Code Club, we wouldn't really need to do these workshops anymore, but apparently people still really like learning about Python as well, because Code Club seems to mostly do scratch. So, it's really nice seeing teachers want to take that next step. And the students as well, they seem to really like it. Yeah, all very fantastic. I think that's our talk. Thank you very much for listening. Anyone have any questions? Oh, yes, of course. Hello. Okay, so in teaching Pygame in the past, one of the things that the kids found really confusing was having to write your own event loop to handle each event that Pygame throws at you. And I'm assuming you handled that by just giving them the code for the event loop because you started off with that. I was not teaching them the event loops, yeah. No, it was good. So, when I've taught Pygame in the past, it's been kind of, okay, this is the event loop and then you sort of build up the game from scratch rather than starting with a complete game and then modifying, which is interesting. But there is a new thing out now called Pygame Zero. Someone is writing a wrapper around Pygame to greatly simplify it, make it easier to use. So I would highly recommend that. Yes, thank you very much. Sorry, I was not a person. I haven't told you about that yet. I was not aware of that, no, that's good to know. Yeah, so the way that we handled the event thing, just in case, we tried to abstract that out as much as possible. So we didn't really mention that there was a loop running around the program. We just kind of said, look, when you press the W key, this section of code executes and we just sort of went from there, I think. We enjoy, so when you kind of get to the end of the workshop and there's not as many questions coming in all the time, that you do get the chance to just sit with some kids and just explain all the different kind of files and all the different code. And yeah, so sometimes it's exciting, and it's really fun. But by that stage, when they're getting that curious, I don't really seem to pick it up easier or at least they pretend that it's not a lot easier. And it's always interesting to see them implement themselves. In a very similar vein, this is on, hello. Yes. There's a thing called Piglet, or Pi, Pi, Glit, oh, is it, I don't know. Might have been a couple of years ago, but I was using it and it's quite good. Sorry, microphone. When Piglet first came out, I was like, this is amazing. This is like Pi game, really much easier to use and cleaner and better. But it seemed to stop development. It would then became impossible to use with newer versions of Python. And I haven't seen it get picked up again, but if it is picked up again, that would be a good alternative. I haven't heard a lot about Pi, Glit, Piglet, Piglet. We've decided everybody, it's Piglet. Yeah, no, I don't think I've heard a lot about Piglet. It'd be great if it's still in development, but yeah, but from what I've seen of Pi game zero, it is really good. Maybe it is still. Just wondering if you mentioned that some of the really, or you alluded to the fact that some of the really meaty discussion that you had with people was after the kind of majority of the questions died down, you were able to start explaining stuff to people. Have you looked at maybe the order in which things are introduced, maybe, to try to kind of address some of those things, or maybe have it write down some of your explanations that you don't have so people can learn after the fact? Yeah, so one of the reasons we used Gitbook was, so because the way Django Girls hosted, they can submit pull requests and so they can change it. So when we do workshops, we update things as we go. That's not completely working at the moment, because we're moving things over to change, make some major changes at the moment. But yeah, that is something we address, like every workshop, there's always a new question. So we're developing kind of a frequently asked question and like building it into the workshop as we go along, because I mean, me and Martin, we're kind of first time teachers, like I've coached sports and things before, but that's just no idea. Same as trying to teach programming. First time primary school teacher, certainly. Yeah, that was one of the things we found with the workshop as well, having mentors, like when you teach primary school to children, it's really good to have a ton of other helpers. Because the way we run it, which I think I was supposed to say earlier, was we'd have one person at the front kind of working through at a reasonably steady pace, just going through the things, and then children could yell, scream, shout, or preferably just raise their hand nicely. That doesn't always happen. And then somebody else would go and help them, so that you kind of had a lot of things going on at any one time. And that was one of the problems with our first workshop. There was only two of us and we had 25 children. I think we actually started with 30, but thankfully some had like, some sports carnival to go through, so we didn't have them for very long. So yeah, can never recommend enough having a million volunteers? Any further questions? Awesome. Every minute after doing tea. Thank you very much. Thank you.


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But we're expected to believe that the great wall of Montana, Montana and us competing with China on censoring what its citizens can watch.  And it's going to be interesting to see if this goes to the courts and what happens if it does go to court. In the meantime, Josh Hawley and others are loudly advocating for banning TikTok at the federal level, secreting the United States. Great internet wall where the U.S. government starts telling us what internet services we can and cannot listen to. All in the name of, by the way, national security, because I know that you guys, your behavior on TikTok has national security implications. What you do on TikTok can really damage and threaten the security of the United States of America. I really don't get it. I don't get how they can get away with it. Good for Rand Paul, who I think is the only senator who is vocally opposed to all this nonsense. This is unquestionably government censorship. There is no national security issue here. The issue has nothing to do with national security. This is all about, I think for people like Josh Hawley, it's all about the, quote, social impact of TikTok, the negative social impact of TikTok. They'd love to be able to regulate and control Instagram and other social media as well. This is also a slam against China, anything to go after China and guard them into reaction. TikTok, so they know what videos you watch. They know the cat videos you watch. How is this a national security threat if China has this kind of information? Now, to top all this off, the real effort right now that TikTok is making, working with Oracle. It's U.S. partner, Oracle, the big tech company run by Larry Ellison. They are calling this the Project Texas. Oracle has its server farm in Texas where TikTok hosts all of U.S. TikTok. What they're working on is for Oracle to have the ability to be able to access, to have full access to source code, algorithm and content moderation material on these servers and to be able to monitor and control the gateways where the data comes in and out and make sure that the data does not go to China. So it'll be interesting to see, this is all in the works, Oracle is working with TikTok to make this happen. It will be really interesting to see if once Oracle gets access to all of this and actually secures this network and has the ability to prevent the Chinese government from accessing this information or for the information to leave the United States, whether Senator Hawley and JD Vance and I'm sure some on the left will stop this nonsense of trying to ban TikTok from the U.S. I mean it would be interesting if Republicans spearheaded demanding of TikTok. I think TikTok has, what, 150 million customers in the U.S. I read a headline somewhere where this would guarantee that the Republican Party would lose every election from here until eternity. People don't like it when you take their toys away. Don't take people toys away. Certainly don't take people's cat videos away. So all of you who are afraid of TikTok and really worried about the Chinese government spying on your video TikTok habits. Oracle, a good old American company, run by Larry Ellison who is a committed Republican, maybe even free market guy. Oracle is going to protect you.  Larry Ellison just reminds me, Larry Ellison it turns out is the big backer of Senator Scott who announced the other day that he's running for president. Larry Ellison has already, I think, put $10 million into Scott's campaign. He has promised to put in much more than that in the future. He is the number one backer of Senator Scott. I think Scott is running basically for the vice president's position. I don't think there's a chance of winning. But you never know. I think I'm coming to the conclusion, even though this isn't a topic on our morning show. I'm coming to the conclusion that DeSantis is dead in the water. I don't think DeSantis goes anywhere. The more I read about his campaigning, the more the guy has no personality on the campaign trail. He can't make eye contact with donors. He has no interpersonal skills. He does okay on television, but he's just terrible with groups and with individuals on the campaign trail. And it really looks like he is gone. He's just not going to be a significant factor. So that leaves Trump, and then it's just a question of who Trump picks for his VP. I just don't see how DeSantis stands up to Trump, fights Trump, engages in Trump, or how DeSantis engages the Republican Party, gets him excited and motivated to support his candidacy. It just doesn't seem real right now. Jimbo Jones says that I'm wrong, that there are almost no CAD videos on TikTok. It's mostly dancing, singing, and weird perks. That's good to know. As somebody who's basically never been to TikTok, I don't know. I just assumed it's all CAD videos, but okay, so TikTok is not about CAD videos. I stand corrected. It's about dancing, singing, and weird pranks. So yeah, I don't want the Chinese knowing what my dancing, singing, and weird pranks habits are very, very dangerous. Not just to me, but to national security. So we better not let those pranks, national security pranks, better not let the Chinese have that information. All right, talk about Congress. So Congress had a session the other day about AI. I mean, everybody's afraid of AI. AI is very, very scary. If you watch Terminator movies, you know that AI will take over the world. It's just a question of when and how many people are going to die in the process. But AI is a scary beast, and Congress held a hearing to try to figure out what it can do about it. And shockingly, it seems like the senators were actually fairly reasonable, except for Josh Hawley, who just hates technology and just freaks out of these things. We're fairly reasonable about it. Josh Hawley would just be, you know, just flip out. We could be looking, this is Josh Hawley. We could be looking at one of the most significant technological innovations in human history. What kind of innovation is it going to be, like the printing press? Or is it going to be more like the atom bomb? Now we know exactly how what Josh Hawley thinks in terms of those two alternatives. Hawley then blames Google Search for swaying political outcomes, and AI is going to be even worse, because AI is going to have even more power. And, you know, it just, I talked yesterday about the white economic policy and how much they mimic the left. Well, there really is a strand. Are you guys, are you guys having video problems? Audio breaking up. Video breaking up. Audio problems, anybody? Not sure what's going on. Maybe it's because I'm talking about, maybe it's because I'm talking about what do you call it, AI and the AI can hear me and is coming after me. So it really is spooky that it looks like Republican Party and many people on the right and many conservatives are going to be part of the new Luddite movement. So again, learning from the left, AI is going to take our jobs. We saw that yesterday. AI Jihad, we talked about that on yesterday's show. The proposal from the right, from the new right to engage in AI Jihad. Pretty scary stuff. Anyway, the real scary thing I think in this hearing was not politicians. Now that, in and of itself, is a shock. The real scary part of this was what Sam Altman had to say. Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI. ChadGPT4, he founded OpenAI with Elon Musk. Originally it was supposed to be a non-profit. It's turned into a for-profit and, of course, got $100 million investment from Microsoft. Sam Altman basically came out and in his opening statement said, he's very positive about AI. He has to be, he's involved in doing it.  We're working hard. We can do these amazing things. But please, Congress, please, Congress, regulate us. AI needs to be regulated because there's real downside here. There's real danger here. You know, you've got to be, you've got to help us out. We're not good at self-regulating. So please, Congress, come and regulate us. I mean, this is astounding. It's almost never the case that businessmen go to Congress with a new technology and say, regulate this. Like, Zuckerberg at some point said, please, regulate us. But why did he say that? He said that because it was clear, because they were harassing him and they were saying, we expect this and we expect that and we want this and we go after you on this and we go after you on that. And it was like, just tell me what the rules are. Just tell me what to expect. Here's how you could regulate us to make it clear for us. Now, I'm not supporting Zuckerberg doing that, but at least it's understandable. He saw what was happening. He saw what was going on. He anticipated that Congress was going to regulate him. He was already hated by almost everybody. And he said, okay, let me try to control the process. Let me try to be involved in the process. Let me try to contribute to this and I'll propose the regulation. Sam Altman here is, nobody's talking about regulation yet. And he's saying, no, we want to be regulated. Please do this for us. I'll give you an example of an alternative, right? So in the biotech field, CRISPR, gene editing. To a large extent, gene editing is potentially more morally problematic, challenging, mind-bending in terms of the possibilities than AI is. Gene editing basically will make it possible for us to go into, and before a child is born, alter their DNA, it'll make it possible to alter the DNA people who are alive in all kinds of ways. Who knows? We might create monsters. We might create soldiers. We might create all kinds of stuff. And so what did the biotech community do, given this reality? Also, there was a danger with the tech that some people would try to start using it on human beings before it was ready and create monsters because of that, potential for eugenics. But the real danger was that people would start using it before it was ready. So what did they do? The industry got together, sat down and drew up certain guidelines on how it should be used for now, completely leaving it open that as the technology advances, as our knowledge advances, as the applications advance, we will apply it in different ways as we move into the future and so on. So the industry did it. They didn't run to Congress and said, please regulate us because we're evil and we're likely to destroy the planet and create something that takes over the world and kills us all. There's something about, and this is from altruism, there's something about a businessman who internalized this idea that they must be evil and they must be bad because they are self-interested, because their profit-seeking. And that they need to be controlled. There's something about them that accepts that and buys into that and embraces that.   And it's not that Sam is particularly a pessimist about AI. Now there are a lot of issues that AI brings up and we'll have to talk more about these. Certainly, I think the biggest issue that AI brings up is at the end of the day, it emphasizes something. It emphasizes even more the question of who owns your data and do you own your own data? And I think it's time that we basically reach a point where we create a mechanism by which we as individuals own our own data. And then we can decide whether we want an AI to train our own data or not. Whether AI should be able to train on our song or not. Whether AI should be able to train on our painting or not for art. The internet is too much of a free fall in terms of once you give the data to a website, the presumption is it's theirs and they can do whatever they want with it or almost whatever they want with it. And the presumption is even worse because of the third party doctrine that once you give a website your data, the government can access their data. We need to regain control of our own data and part of that it should be the Supreme Court doing away with third party doctrine but part of it also has to be just a real orientation of how we think about data. I always hoped that blockchain technologies, maybe some of the crypto stuff would ultimately morph into a way for us to be able to control our own personal data as it goes on to the web. I don't exactly how that would be but that I think is crucial. And Sam Altman's credit, he did bring that up. People should be able to say, I don't want my personal data used to train AI. I think that's absolutely right but that's a much broader issue. People should be able to say, here's how I want my personal data to be used and here how I don't want my personal data to be used. Altman also argued that he would like to see a government agency issuing artificial intelligence business licenses that then can be revoked. So he wants licensing laws over AI. It's just stunning to me that these people, the trust these people have in government where they don't have that trust in private enterprise, private businesses and the reason is again the same reason I mentioned earlier. It's altruism. They trust government because they're not selfish. They trust government because they're for the public good, for the common interest. They distrust business because business is inherently self-interested. It's about profit and therefore it can be trusted. The bureaucrat can be trusted in spite of all of history, in spite of everything that's happened, in spite of all the examples of governments doing horrific things, in spite of our day-to-day experience of the inefficiencies and just the bureaucracy and just the nastiness and often evil of government policies. Government has to be trusted, regulate everything. It's those industry guides. Those are the guys you have to really be careful of. Those are the guys you have to watch.  All right, Brexit. So, as I said from the beginning of Brexit, Brexit was a great opportunity for the UK to basically abandon the regulatory regime of the European Union and to eliminate regulation. It could also be an opportunity to set up the UK as a free trade island and get away from the immigration restrictions that the trade restrictions that the European Union had put in place. And a lot of the supporters or some of the supporters of Brexit, those are the arguments they made that it's about getting rid of regulation. It's about increasing trade. It's about all these things. Now, Brexit has happened. Brexit has happened. And then we sit here and continue to wait for all the good stuff to happen that was promised as a result of Brexit. Getting rid of all the European regulations. Getting, you know, establishing free trade policies. And there being some movement of free trade. I mean, the UK did what I think the United States didn't do under Trump, which is join a free trade deal in the Pacific Ocean. One of the massive mistakes of the Trump administration was rejecting top. The UK has joined top or something similar to top. But generally, it still hasn't lived up to its promise of free trade island. And then on top of that, when the current Prime Minister, Sunak of UK came in, he promised, and actually the Conservatives passed a law that said that by the end of this year, by the end of 2023, about 6,000 or 8,000 regulations that had been adopted by the UK because of the European Union, right? Because of the European Union, embraced by the UK as part of the deal with the European Union, all of those would be eliminated. And the UK would draw up its own regulations, which would be supposedly a lot leaner and a lot more effective and a lot more efficient and a lot more poor business, than the European Union once. Last week, the UK government said that it was changing its mind. They would not do away with all 6,000, 4,000, however many regulations there were because it was too difficult, it was too hard. They were afraid that by eliminating all the regulations so fast they would make mistakes and bad stuff would happen and business wouldn't be ready. And yeah, bad stuff would happen, right? Because, why? Because they were getting rid of the regulations too fast. So instead, they've decided to get rid of 600 specific laws that will be revoked. Now, 600 is better than nothing, but it's not as good as 4,000. I for one have no problem in thrusting the government into a position where oh my God, all these regulations have disappeared, what are we going to do now? They cope quite well, amazingly well actually, even when they were in a position where suddenly the regulations have disappeared and they don't know what to do. So I wouldn't worry about business in that context. And so anyway, the UK is moving a little bit in that direction but nowhere near as much as it could. I'll still take the 600. One of the real aims of some of this is to, I'll put it this way, one of the things that the EU is clearly signaling through its regulatory regimes is a disinterest in innovation, technology and progress. So it is basically adopting the precautionary principle where you can't operate anything new unless you can guarantee 100% that it doesn't increase risk. That's the precautionary principle. The EU is finding big tech. The EU basically is discouraging innovation. The UK wants to take a different stance. It wants to encourage it. It wants to support it. It wants to embrace innovation and embrace tech. It still wants to break up big tech. And I think it was the UK regulatory agency that prevented Microsoft from buying that gaming company in the name of protecting competition. Just absurd and ridiculous. They're now like eight, 10 different regulatory agencies that can put a kibosh on a mojo. People accuse us of having a free market, right? And all these problems caused by a free market. What free market are we talking about? The free market where regulators can tell me whether I can mojo or not mojo with another company? God. Anyway, the UK does have a path here to become an innovative innovation center of Europe and basically separate itself from the European Union by having laws and regulations in place and tax code in place that does not discourage innovation, start-ups, technology, business. UK has always had pretty good policies with regard to biotech. And if you remember Dolly the sheep that was cloned, they did a lot of kind of cutting edge biotech stuff. Hopefully they can get back to that once now that they've left the European Union and not under the boot of European Union regulations. So there really is an opportunity here for the UK to separate itself and to become a real beacon. But it's going to have to move pretty quickly and it's going to have to do things that are pretty dramatic and significant, particularly on the regulatory front. And I just wonder if this government and the next government, which is likely to be a labor government, have what it takes to achieve that, have what it takes to be successful with it. All right. Let's see. All right. Last topic, low-income housing. This was a funny story. All right. So this guy, what's his name? Gregory something. Yeah, Michael Gregory. Michael Gregory is a builder in Portland, Oregon. And he built recently some low-income housing in Portland, Oregon. He built a three-story building with a mix of studio and one bedroom apartment, all of which have to be sold or rented to low-income tenants because Gregory got a break from city fees in order to, in building this, the units are nice. There are spaces. They have nice countertops. And basically Gregory is saying, I'll never do this again.  Why? What could it be that makes it so difficult, makes it so painful for Mr. Gregory to build in Portland, Oregon? He did what everybody wants builders to do. He built low-income housing. He did what every politician in these cities wants it to happen, build low-income housing.  God, I can't. I mean, how painful could it be? I'm not sure how you kick yourself in the balls, but we get the idea.  The building itself is not a problem. The execution is not a problem. But getting the permits and the approvals and the inspectors and the Bureau of Development Services and Transportation and Parks and Bureau's Urban Forestry Division and this guy and that guy and this is a city, supposedly committed to low-income housing. This is a city that supposedly has been committed since 2021 to streamlining the process and incentivizing builders to build low-income housing. And yet, it's impossible to do.  Builders have 7.6 permits per 10,000 residents, right? Because they don't want to build in Portland. Whereas in Austin, Texas, for example, they're doing 31.1 permits, so four times more per 100,000 because it's much easier to build in Austin, Texas. Not easy enough, though. So, if you ask why we have a homelessness problem, it's because even the people who claim they believe in low-income housing, even the cities that claim to support low-income housing and friendly to low-income housing, making it possible to build low-income housing. Make it painful. 100 times in the... 100 times, 100 kicks. So, it's on and on. So, I mean, I'll give you an example. You know, everything was ready. Pipes were on the ground. Everything was ready, and then suddenly the Portland Bureau of Transportation said, we want you to leave room so that we can widen the sidewalk in the future. To do that, he had to move the plumbing and the fire sprinkler systems, right? Submitted new plans. Wait.  And who pays all the costs for this? He does. So, this is low-income housing. Supposedly low-income. So, these are cheap. But they're making it expensive. Through all the regulations, demands, requests, permitting, permits, it just becomes impossible, impossible to build. I mean, you can go on and on into all the details and all the drudgery and all the harassment. It's just not worth it. It's just not worth it. Right? Let's see.  Oh, I just want to say something about... You probably... I don't know if you're following the story in Ukraine. These troops that entered Russia and took over two villages. The Russians now are saying they've killed them all and everything's reoccupied. The Russian... The troops that went in are challenging that. It's not clear what's going on there. It's not clear if these people were Ukrainians, were they Russians, were they Russian, Ukrainians, Ukrainian, Russians, who they were exactly and what they were. There's a lot of conflicting information. It's just a... It's a mess, but it's a massive embarrassment to the Russians.  And Russia was caught completely by surprise. None of its defenses on the border held. They had to call up forces. I mean, mainly what this is, is just an embarrassment to the Russian forces. But they have. They have taken Bakhmut after 10 months, 10 months of fighting for a little town that is worthless strategically and maybe up to 100,000 casualties. All right.  AI or climate change? Happy birthday. Thank you, Jennifer.  I suspect neither one of them, but the advocates of both... The advocates of the fearmongers might kill you first. I mean, the fear and the consequence of fear that is the most... is the thing that is damaging, not the problem itself.  But fearmongering, millennials, you know, we need... We need something with the left fears, climate change, we need something for the right to fear, and that's, I guess, AI now, technology. Oh my God.  Colin said, suggested for the $1,000 show, your thoughts on the article I linked below. It's an area where I think we can really make a dent and for you and Gretzo Muri to talk about it in Austin soon. I don't see the link. So Colin, can you send me the link? I can't post the link, but if you Google, how eugenics change statistics. All right, got it. Got it, thank you. Let me just copy that over. Okay, let's see what else... Not a lot of questions, guys, so this will be a short show today. All right, Chikin asks, after finishing Fountainhead some months back, I've now started with Atlas Shrugged. I just finished the money speech and it's probably the best thing I've ever read. So now I need a pause to digest. Enjoy your birthday. Yes. A lot of digesting has to happen with the money speech. I'm super happy you're reading the Atlas Shrugged and super happy you enjoyed the money speech so much. There are a lot of great speeches. The nice thing about the money speeches, it's condensed, it's to the point, it's clear as you'll see in Atlas, there are quite a few more speeches, one of them very long, but really, really good lays out the entire, Iron Man's entire philosophy in it. But yeah, enjoy Atlas Shrugged, I'm jealous. Reading Atlas Shrugged for the first time, that is always a unique once in a lifetime type pleasure, right? Okay, Frank says, can you be on Larry Kudlow's Saturday radio show on WABC? This is from yesterday. I can, the challenge is for Larry Kudlow to invite me. I can't will myself onto anybody's show. I can't will myself onto Joe Rogan, can't will myself onto Larry Kudlow. The best thing you can do to help me is let Larry Kudlow know that you think I should be on a show, encourage Larry Kudlow to invite me onto the show. Somebody saw the Atlas Shrugged movie instead of reading the book, what a travesty. God, the movies are terrible and it's a massive injustice to watch the movies and not read the book and injustice to yourself. Let's see. Roland says, happy birthday. Thank you, Roland. Catherine says, happy birthday. Thank you, Catherine. Apollo Zeus says, happy birthday. Thank you, Apollo Zeus. Apollo Zeus also asked, opinion of free ports in the UK. These are ports. These are like free trade zones, I think. They're set up next to ports in the UK and goods produced there. Don't pay certain taxes and import and export. Tariffs are waived and everything else. Yeah, I'm all forced up like that. I just wish free ports are such a good idea. Then why not make the UK one big free port? Why not make the UK a tariff-free zone? Why not make the UK a, what do you call it, a tax-free zone? Why not make the UK a regulatory-free zone? If these zones are so successful, why not make them more expansive and covering the entire economy? Wouldn't that be more meaningful and more substantive? So yeah, anytime you can provide some freedom, it's better than no freedom. But again, if some freedom makes sense in some place, why not have that some freedom everywhere? Why limit it? All right. Thank you, Apollo. Thank you, Gail, for the happy birthday. Thank you, Linda, for the happy birthday. Thank you, Walter, for the support. Walter, for the support. Let's see, Walter, I have to thank for the support scrolling down here. I think we got all those. Adam, thank you. We really appreciate the happy birthday. All right, guys. I'm done with the questions. No more questions. Thinner questions today. All right, I will see you all tomorrow for another episode of the News Roundup. I think tomorrow is going to be a little bit different time-wise, maybe an hour later. We will see. Yes, I've got it right now at 2 p.m. East Coast time. So plan on that. And I will see you all. I will see you all tomorrow.


Hey, Bolo buddies. Thanks for watching. I have a bread and butter Bolo video for you These are items that I sold for thirty five dollars or less on eBay. They sold faster on eBay They were cross-posted to Mercari and Poshmark. There's one item that I got free Don't you love the freebies? All right. Um, let's get started Okay and the first item came from I Don't know. I don't remember Actually, I think this might have been a mystery box now that I'm looking at it or a garage sale One of the two anyway, I And I don't know what I paid for him either because I can't remember where I got him Shucks not a good way to start the video, but I sold them for twenty nine dollars and seventy four cents in the buyer paid Shipping and I'm gonna have to say I probably had a buck or two in these if not less And they're just these little angels and they hold the candles They've got the original candles with them and actually it was a little surprised They went as quickly as they did for as high as they did so Yeah, the next item I sold is this goose pump Goosebumps puzzle and I picked this up at a garage sale for a buck and it's vintage. It's super cool It's from nineteen ninety five. It's Scott if you guys are familiar with the goose bumps books Those are definitely a bolo. So if you can pick up the vintage books Definitely be on the lookout for those so I figured the puzzle would do pretty well and I sold it for 15 dollars in the buyer paid shipping all right, this item came out of a Halloween like mystery type box and the reason I say mystery is is because I didn't see Every single thing that was in the box. So I wasn't a hundred percent sure what all I was getting So I was happily surprised. I bought this from a YouTube auction The auction channel on YouTube is auctions the number four and a capital you auctions for you There is a link down in the description of the video and I also have an unboxing video of everything that I got in this box So definitely go check out that video. It's a great place for resellers to source Auctions for you. So Again, it was a Halloween lot. I really like selling Halloween stuff So this was definitely a bread and butter item and I was like, you know what? I don't know if this is gonna sell or not, but it actually sold super fast I took a best offer of eight dollars and the buyer paid the shipping and it was a quick eight bucks The next item I sold is this Doc Mcstuffins toy lot. I pick up toys at garage sales I feel like I have a hair in my face. Sorry Garage sales thrift stores and then I save them and I lot them. I sold this for $15 and the buyer paid shipping The next item I sold is this Care Bear picked it up at 50 for 50 cents at a garage sale It's the birthday bear 20th anniversary. It's still got the tags attached from 2002 and I sold this for $20 and the buyer paid shipping The next item I sold is this Lego Bionicle figure with the instruction manual no box. This is a pre-owned item that I Bought a whole bunch of these like three boxes full of Bionicles and different Legos and This one sold for 33 99 and the buyer paid shipping So I don't know what the breakdown is per item not much the next item I sold is this Hot Wheels car. I was listing and bulk a bunch of Hot Wheels and What are they called matchbox and this one just caught my eye because it it crashes, you know And I put on my Instagram I'm like does anybody know what this car is called and they're like it's a crashers Folder bash or whatever and I was able to look it up and this sold super super fast It's sold for $7 in the buyer paid shipping But it's sold fast and it's super cool and somebody was happy and I was happy to get the $7 so I don't know you guys probably wouldn't waste your time, but To me it was an easy list and I thought it was fun and it sold fast So the next item I sold is this Katz meow Rudin's department store and it's Christmas. It's Mount Vernon. So it's like Mount Vernon is about I think 45 minutes from where I live. So it's very I don't know if somebody in Mount Vernon bought it or not. I should have looked at that, but It's kind of a special one. It's a rare Let's say that and it sold for 33 dollars and 99 cents and the buyer paid shipping. So The Katz meow items are typically bread and butter. This one was a little bit better, but it has that Christmas look too It's got Santa in the front. It's really really cute The next item I sold I got for free at a garage sale. I walk up to the garage sale They had all of these die cuts It was a teacher and she was retired and they didn't have prices on any of this stuff and It's I think it said free and I got Valentine's Day Halloween Thanksgiving Christmas Easter so I lauded them by holiday and This one sold for 32 dollars in the buyer paid shipping. I have the other ones that are still listed They're not moving as quickly as I had hoped but I was happy to sell this one and these are pretty cool The next item I sold are these vintage Christmas cards. There are six cards. No envelopes. They are unused You can see what they look like here And this was a very very long tail item It took the right buyer, but I sold them for 1699 in the buyer paid shipping and I probably did not have much in it at all The next item I sold is this Furby So it worked and then it stopped working and then it only moved and had no sound and I was like I quit and I sold it as is for 25 dollars and 49 cents and the buyer paid shipping and that came out of a mystery box The next item I sold is this night before Christmas miniature Christmas ornament book You know, I picked these up at a garage sale in a bag full. I don't remember how much was on the bag now But these have done extremely well if you see these little ornaments Definitely get them. They're like little storybooks. I mean, they're selling really well I don't I don't I don't know if I have any left So they're bread and butter, but they're moving sold it for 1529 in the buyer paid shipping I'm guessing I had about a quarter in that The next item is this Lenny and Eva brown cuff bracelet with the piece plate on it. This came from my My bulk buy I bought it on eBay to sell on eBay. I sold this for 17 dollars in the buyer paid the shipping All right, here's another cake topper what you guys are probably like I'm not wasting my time with that, but I like selling toys So I sold this for ten dollars and eight cents in the buyer paid shipping and I probably had like ten cents in it The next item is this vintage 1983 rainbow bright puppy. It's a cake topper. It's adorable And I knew this was gonna sell like as soon as I saw it I'm like, oh my goodness this is good and I sold it for 19 dollars in the buyer paid shipping and it was just in a bunch of toys sitting in my basement for over a Year The next item I sold is this brother P touch label maker I picked this up at a thrift store for two dollars and fifty cents I took a best offer of thirty five dollars in the buyer paid shipping This guy is Michael Knight Rider action figure David Hasselhoff and he is vintage He was in that same box of toys that had been sitting in my basement I sold him for thirteen dollars and forty four cents in the buyer paid shipping The next item is this Rudolph the red nose reindeer misfit Christmas figurine set. It's new I picked it up at a garage sale for two dollars and I sold it for thirty four dollars in the buyer paid shipping The next item is this Linux snowman ornament and I was actually surprised what this one went for I sold this for twenty dollars. I picked it up at a garage sale for a dollar and the buyer paid shipping The next item is another Simpsons and this one sold for twenty eight dollars the buyer paid shipping. I picked this up at a thrift store a ton of Simpson stuff Most of you probably already know the story But I bought a bunch of it and it was all these little rooms And I was just gonna put all the figures together and just auction them and my husband's like Why would you do that? You've got the figures with the accessories that go in each little house Why would you do that?  It's a boy and a girl These were in all those toys and I sold these for 18 dollars and 75 cents and the buyer paid shipping So they came from a garage sale I don't know what they go to but they sold pretty fast and you can see they've even got like issues with the paint Coming off of the feet. So guys if it's vintage, you don't let that deter you from listening at people will still buy it The next item I sold is this snow white and the seven doors figures And I sold these for $15 and I picked these up at a garage sale and the buyer paid shipping And the last item are these Girl Scout pins and clips They came from my bulk buy I bought it on eBay to sell on eBay and I sold them for 14 dollars and the buyer paid shipping So this was a pretty quick video and let me know if you have any questions in the comments. Thanks for being here Thanks for watching Check out one of my other videos. They're getting ready to pop up on the screen I've got category videos. I've got bread and butter videos. I've got big money below videos I've got featured seller videos I have tons of videos that tell you about Bolo items if you want to learn about list perfectly. 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You're in a tight spot You couldn't have given him the contract that he was gonna get at the time and Purple for the Rams Aaron Donald out of 50, but now like he did all that so you could be able to sign a guy like Devers A 25 year old maybe probably top five American League player right now Ronnie Perkins red down-and-cook Vikings out of 99 There's no excuse to not sign him big market team Have the money Yeah God blue Dallas Goddard for the Eagles out of 179 I'm I feel pretty good about them keeping Devers. I just I Don't really know you know should be hovered rated rookie Carolina pink of velocity Deontay Johnson Steelers Love some pink velocity 79 Christian Barmore rated rookie Pats There's no way the Red Sox will get Devers Soto and judge. It's a nice thought though my house hollow Baker for the Browns I honestly I don't want judge at the contract. He's gonna command in book rated rookie Aqua Peyton Manning Colts to 299 Color match for the Colts kind of close Was rick a blue Jordan Aikens Texans to 179 There's inside the park Grand Slam That's hilarious Shot Bateman rated rookie for the Ravens hollow Saints Michael Thomas How does that happen? Especially the Roger Center. There's no like weird places. You can hit a ball in the Roger Center Jags rated rookie Trevor Lawrence Aqua rated rookie for the Pats Christian Barmore to 299 JC Horn and orange JC Horn out of 199 Carolina Rated rookie whose VB Sub Jim Ronnie Perkins Mack Jones the rookies insert Tom Wallace hollow Davis Mills rated rookie nice one Texans. Oh, I thought you meant Who hit that VB like something in the break because that's what some sometimes that's what people ask Orange Jared Goff Lions to 199 Red Sox definitely could but it is like now or never this next few Next couple of series Shot Bateman, we've got blue prism Jalen waddle rated rookie out of 179 congrats to the Dolphins That one mags. This is my second box of Optic of the night Jim. So I have no idea No downtowns yet It was like three a box earlier. It seemed like It's the Enrated rookie Kyle Pitts elite series insert round trees that one right there That one right there Downtown Jerry Rice. You're just talking about him 49ers. Boom. Maybe so Jim. Maybe so Kyle Lamb with the Niners I think I did you did We're talking about Jerry Rice down sounds last night Vaughn was here Vaughn. We're talking about Jerry Rice down sounds last night What you guys want to pull and you said hollow Washington, J.C. Oh, did I predict that yesterday? Blue for the Dolphins Byron Jones the 179 McKinney got red Barry Sanders to one to 99 there the Lions Legendary logos Jalen hurts dude. I dig these these are cool inserts. I'm guess there's a pretty cool legendary logo starts I hope the Pats one has the Pat Patriot over the heck. It's called pasty, right? And then the the Jets has to have the actual jet The corny looking jet logo. Love that thing. Najee Harris rated rookie Steelers and blue rated rookie auto Jags Travis ETN jr. 79 of 99 Pink Velocity Panthers get her Ghost Matos to 79 Patterson Aqua Nick Vosa to 299 care for the for the Niners Lawrence rated Rookie Jags globe global Chuba Hubbard Panthers Global with ball. I Don't like that. I'm out on that Good looking card. I just can't stand that But now I know Chuba Hubbard is from Canada, so boom I Got silver circles to 125 Jake Plummer Broncos Almond Ross St. Brown Hello, Mark Andrews Ravens. Do you guys think where you drafted Mark Andrews in your fantasy tight ends? Two top three top four. Where you guys have him? Not not nowhere near that. Oh nice Aqua Micah Parsons rated Rookie Dallas to 299 Sweet one there It breaks so far. Nice Jim. That's awesome, man It's always good to hit with a team you buy any PYT Niners got gifted rookies Trevor Lawrence Jags Andrews your first Titan at the board von Justin Fields rated Rookie Bears I'm not a big ticket tight end in the first two rounds guy. It's very uh At least not this year. Hello rated Rookie Vikings Kellen Mond. I Think there's some decent depth for Titan this year as far as like outside of the top four. I Don't wait too much longer after that though Reverend Jordan silver circles Ravens Lamar Jackson to 125 Schwartz purple rated Rookie Washington Jared Patterson out of 50 We support Moa legendary logos Tom Brady Here you go bucks It is tough. I feel like Waller is gonna have a big year. I think the Bonte Adams is gonna have a lot of attention on him Rondale Moore and that is gonna benefit Waller quite a bit and I think Renfro Renfro is gonna do his thing regardless as a slot guy Got hollow Joe mix and Bengals Renfro is gonna be very dependable, but I Think Waller is gonna benefit quite a bit for not being like the number one big target, you know Carter we've got a red Michael Thomas for New Orleans to 99. I don't know if I can put up a number one though It's tough kiddles a beast to Aqua Titans rated Rookie Desvits Patrick to 99 Tray Lance rated Rookie Niners Josh Palmer Micah Parsons rated Rookie Dallas Feral hollow for the Chiefs Travis Kelsey Illegal is Goddard gonna have a big year. He go Collins lime green. Nice. Yeah, lime green at 35 Jalen Phillips rated Rookie Dolphins Got it number one dude Goddard is a beast for real. Love Dallas Goddard red Cowboys to Marcus Lawrence to 99 Why is your more my house? Hello, Justin Herbert for the Chargers Daffy away. Why is your molding? We got a Luke Farrell pink Velocity rated Rookie Otto Jags. That's to 30 Joe burrow Aqua bangles a 299 Nice Joey B and orange for the Rams Eric Dickerson out of one at 99 Barrett Tucker silver circles Alan Robinson to 125 Bears Mack Jones rated Rookie First Mac Rising Suns Cooper Cup. That's a cool insert. Could you pay? Darby hollow rated Rookie builds Greg or so. I don't think I've ever been in the keeper league before. I just went straight to dynasty CD-WAM Aqua to 99 to 299 Dallas Stephen Collins the rookies Tray Lance 49ers Jamar Chase rated Rookie bangles downtown John Elway Boom Congrats Denver. This is the other guy was talking about actually That is awesome congrats Denver So these are much more common than a case hit this year much more Farley hollow Tyron Matthew chiefs Maybe I'll be able to afford one live Mitchell. We've got orange rated Rookie Nico Collins to 299 Sorry to 199 sections 199. That was downtown Denver illegal rated Rookie Aqua Peyton Turner Saints Yeah, that's downtown Denver for sure The old stadium Terrace Marshall orange Kurt Warner Cardinals to 199 Will Herbert my house hollow DK for Seattle. This is Patrick. No, you're right Vaughan We were talking about him and and rice Just a sigh rated Rookie Otto Saints Ian book to 150 nice hit Saints Davis Mills rated Rookie Saxons blue 2-2 at well Rams color match rated Rookie to 299. Sorry to 179 Parallels mixed up already Werner Travis Kelsey blue to 179 cheaps Yeah, I said rice last night. I think we did talk about Montana, too. I predicted like a vet Like a legend legendary logos Mac Jones. Nice Do you like those inserts? Chris Evans, I thought we would pull them in different cases. Not the same six-box break Hollow Nick Chubbrowns Serrat and Josh Allen Jags read the 99 Crazy that Jags Josh Allen is better He proved it They played head-to-head last year and he had a much better game and the Jags beat the bills Once are long awkward Devin white bucks out of 299. I just state the facts you guys Every every night in night out. I just ate the facts elite series rookies Jamar Chase I don't know what the basketball tournament is. I have I've had it on I'm afraid to turn on a woman ever to see Red Sox highlights though, so I'm just gonna leave it here Side on maybe later old switch it Jalen waddle rated Rookie Dolphins hollow rated Rookie Rams Jake funk How many times is that you think that's happened in history? Yeah, kind of game well Ian book Aqua rated Rookie Saints to 299 Don't mean tremble Justin Fields Rookie's insert Chuba Hubbard Rookie Kings Is that not numbered?  It is not as that's what they look like guys It's not numbered it's pretty sweet though It's like a really rare one. I know they changed up a bunch this year.  No, I'm not gonna scratch it off I'm messing with it orange Jermaine Pratt Bengals color match to 199 Jalen Darden purple for the Pats Damian Harris 50 Kyle Pitts got global Krishna Koye chiefs Greg Rousseau And then good Dave has been fun That is a hollow rated Rookie Auto Kyle Trask very nice headbuckin ears It's 125 makes up a bit for that paper stuck to the the base Trask He has Brad would say the Nigerian sensation Krishna Koye Rams Eric Dickerson out of 179 the blue color match white hot rookies ETN for the Jags some mark I'm in some optic man having a good night Darius Tony Jalen Phillips hollow Tyler Higby Rams Jefferson pink velocity bangles Joe mix in a 79 Silver circles to the 125 Panthers Robbie Anderson. I Like the design a lot. I think it looks great and it as per usual looks fantastic Kings just a regular insert. I think you just top load it Just regular insert Trey Lance rated Rookie Elite series Jalen waddle. Yeah, I like optic quite a bit For me, it's definitely like it's just about to select in prism levels and to me Micah Parsons rated Rookie. Well, God's a hollow Cleal Mac bears and her Scott Devontae Smith rookies insert Justin Fields rated Rookie There you go bears Collins got orange David Johnson Texans to 199 Lari Drew Bledsoe Patriots blue to 179. Yeah, select is gonna be hot this year Sam Ellinger hollow rated Rookie Pat Freymouth Steelers It's gonna be super popular At least at my at least I think that's gonna be Chris Carson blue to 179 Seattle red cream hunt Browns to 99 Elijah Moore White hot rookies Mac Jones Patriots Oh a blue rated Rookie auto Seattle Dwayne Eskridge You go the scridge to 99 Retro series Brett Farr Vikings Rondale Moore hollow for the Steelers here keep run Bashum Silver circles Texans rated Rookie Nico Collins to 125 Aqua for the Cowboys Dak Prescott to 299 Michael Carter Aqua Ravens Lamar Jackson to 299 Cisco and Cisco rated Rookie Orange to 199 Jags Recap here it autos Dwayne Eskridge Kyle Trask Ian book Luke Farrell Micah Parsons on the Aqua parallel there Travis Etienne Cleal Herbert In downtown John Elway for the Broncos downtown Niners Jerry Rice and Blue rated Rookie Jalen Waddle Dolphins to 179 That's gonna do it. Thanks again everybody more optic coming up next