Well, everyone, Baselchap, and here on this Tuesday, this is the 11 o'clock Tiger Financial News Network update at 11, and we're looking at on the 26th of October, we're looking at the Dow up 125 at an all-time high. This is leg D. In the chat we've methodology, we're always looking for at least a peak D in a buy mode, and that says that with the S&P still only in leg C and a very strong move today, up 29 at 45.96. We still have to wait for a peak C and then a leg D, and then we're going to get a little bit cautious. So far, buy modes are in place all the way around. Look at the QQQ. QQQ is trading up 4 at 382.11, is trying to tackle 382.78 high. Wow, we've got 382.71. It's almost an all-time high. Oops, what happened here? QQQQ. Let's see if I can get, there it is. And that'll make the weekly chart probably a leg F. We're looking at this is very strong IWM as well. So now I want to do a couple of things because G, I had a question in my show the Tiger Conditions a moment ago. I didn't have a chance to do it, but look, G had a spectacular earnings, and it spiked to 110.97. Remember, this is a stock that really should be trading at 11, $10 rather than 108.57. But I think GE is starting to come back, and this is part of the whole big cycle. So GE is acting well. This is actually a good sign economically looking at. I had a question about GDX, where should it stop here? I'm just going to say it's holding well at 33.20. I wouldn't put a stop in just yet if you're long from way down, as we are for Subscribers to our opening call. But 32.67 is at 33.20 right now. Let's look at it again if there's a problem at 32.60 in the 32.60s. But so far, I would just keep it even though it's made a peaky. We want to look at, and Gold did take a huge hit today. It's down 20 bucks at 17.87. TLT is trying to rally. A couple of things that I want to look at. We're going to be going to Larry Perzevento for Trade What You See, a wonderful show, of course, and great shows coming up after that. There's Thinkors Swoom, Steve Rhodes, Day White, Tom O'Brien. I'll be back with Tom O'Brien this afternoon. So in the meantime, I just keep an eye on how all these particular indices hold their gains as they move into the 1.32 o'clock area. So far, every dip has been brought, and that's good. So keep an eye on the volatility index. The volatility index, instead of spiking from the 15.20 level right now, pops over to 15.80.  We're sorry to see some weakness later in the day, but holding in the 15.20 is that. That's really very bullish. Have a wonderful day, and I say to you for Larry, and I will see you tomorrow.


Hey there, dream seekers. Today we're diving into the cool stuff that happens when you hit the hay. Have you ever had dreams about aliens or felt like your dreams predict the future? We're breaking it down. Plus, we'll explore some of the weird things that can happen to you when you're catching some z's. Get ready for an exciting ride into the world of dreams where anything is possible as we unravel these mysteries together.  Usually it encompasses the 24 hours that whatever happened during those 24 hours it'll get played out through metaphor in your dream. In college I took the psychology of sleeping dreams from Dr. Rainville who's no longer with us right now but he was an amazing man. He was blind and he had an assistant there that helped him teach class and he was what they call advantageously blind which means that he had eyesight up until a certain point in his life and then he lost his eyesight. He had a hockey accident. One of the fascinating things that he taught us was that he would attend these conventions for the blind and even in the blind conventions they would segregate themselves between the blind from birth in one side of the room with the advantageously blind in the other side because they know what an orange looks like or what the color orange looks like. One of the things too that I found really interesting too he said that initially when he went blind he would still have dreams that he could see. It was more tactile around his visual senses that he still had his sight but as the years went on he relied more in his dreams on his other senses which portrayed what was going on in his normal life. So when you dream as I mentioned it's all being played out in metaphor and an example of this would be and this is one of the examples Dr. Rainville used in our class. He said that imagine a boss has a fantasy about being with his secretary so that night he dreams about his secretary just you know filing opening file cases and doing her job and shutting them opening up another file case and so on and so forth but what's being played out is his fantasy and it's the in and out motion of her filing opening up the cabinet thing in and out in and out that's what's being portrayed. Another example Dr. Rainville gave was he said you know if you've been like under a lot of pressure you might have this dream of this huge you know 30 foot tire rolling at you you know and that's that's once again the metaphor being played out in the dream. Back in maybe 2006 or so I put on some weight I weighed more than what I weigh now I've lost 33 pounds as of today but I weighed more than what I weigh now and I had a sleep apnea I was basically choking on my air I'd stop breathing when I was sleeping and for quite a while maybe you know a minute or so or 30 seconds or whatever max wife noticed that at the time and we made an arrangement to have a sleep study done and what they do in sleep studies is they hook your body up with electrodes all over they monitor your sleep and what I found out is that I have a rare sleep anomaly where you have these basic stages of sleep I'm in the dream stage all night I go into the dream stage immediately for example do you ever catch yourself just nodding off your head bounces up and down you're really tired but you just catch yourself nodding off like that I can have a dream that feels like it's a three hour dream in that kind of time and it goes to show you that when you dream you're outside of this third dimensional construct of time space you're in the ethereal realms where time doesn't exist so when I dream I dream all night so I would venture to say I probably have thousands of dreams so there's many that I don't remember but I do remember quite a few one of the best dreams I had was shortly after I watched The Secret now I'm originally from upstate New York but I've always had this affinity to palm trees and the ocean and I had no idea why here I am in the Cascale Mountains in upstate New York but yet there was something calling me with palm trees in the ocean didn't know what it was shortly after watching The Secret I had a dream where my spirit guide introduced herself to me so I see this woman it's an American Indian looking woman long black hair flowing white gown she goes hi Greg my name is Tamara I'm your spirit guide so here I am I can ask her anything in the world and what do I do I repeat her name over and over and over again Tamara Tamara Tamara Tamara Tamara and I said it so many times that I ended up waking myself up out of the dream she probably thought I was the biggest idiot in the world you know I could ask her anything but all I do is repeat her name so here it is like three o'clock in the morning and I know that every name has a meaning so I get on my computer and I type in Tamara and as it turns out Tamara means palm tree so it explained my affinity that I've always had to palm trees I remember asking my mother why don't we have a palm tree in our house why can't we just grow one and put one somewhere in the corner because she had plants all over the place just loved palm trees every time I see a palm tree I feel good I always used to think I was a California guy trapped in a New York body because that's where I saw the palm trees was in California but as it turns out I was a Florida guy trapped in a New York body and there's tons of palm trees here plus we have a lot warmer water California they have that Pacific flow of water coming from the north to the south so even and for example I was at the ocean Pacific surf contest one year in August in Huntington Beach California Southern California and the water temperature was 65 in August so the water's cold there so some of you will have repetitive dreams as well a dream that you have had all throughout your life or it might be something that's been common for the last few years many of us have had repetitive dreams of flying which is one of my favorite dreams in this dream you know I can soar up in the air and I can go back down and arch my back and come back up again now the strange thing about this dream about flying is that I have a fear of heights you know and I've always wanted to basically parachute out of an airplane to face my fear but in my dream of flying there's no fear whatsoever it's as if it's something that I've been doing naturally all my previous incarnations or whenever I'm on the other side of the veil in general about 10 to 15 of the people will have dreams about flying so that's pretty cool another dream well at least a common theme that I have is as I mentioned I was born and raised in upstate New York I spent the first 40 some odd years in upstate New York amongst a few other places in between in my dreams I'm constantly back in upstate New York and the way I see it is basically I'm you know going home going back home and I think that's the metaphor that's being played out because as you'll see I also have prophetic dreams and I think that's what I'm being shown and I'm constantly going home and many of these dreams that I'm getting I feel like they're dreams for the masses it's not just for me there's messages in there for for everyone and that's what's happening we're all going home that's one of the things that Dolores Cannon talked about you know a lot of people have that feeling of wanting to go home and home not necessarily being here on third-dimensional earth but when it's being played out in metaphor going back home would be home where you grew up I also had another dream this was a pretty cool dream where I'm standing inside of the foundation of a home and there's a bunch of cinder blocks around this is another dream that I had that's for the masses for everybody now in dream analysis in the psychology of sleeping dreams we learned how to decode our dreams the metaphors that we have let me get to the dream first in this dream there were three ladders had one foot on the left and one foot on the right ladder now straddling the one in between now typically in dream analysis if you're climbing up a ladder the ladder would mean a promotion you're going to get a raise something along those lines you're moving up in the world but if you look at a ladder what does it look like it looks like DNA a DNA strand and what I was shown in this dream now these three ladders were leaning up against the foundation of this house that would that was being built and what I was shown in this dream is that typical third dimensional human beings have two strands of DNA this showed me that we're getting upgraded now it's not going to show me that I was straddling 12 strands or 12 ladders in that dream because that would be almost impossible to envision but it showed me a DNA upgrade that's in process right now now also something that I learned in the psychology of sleeping dreams actually this might have been in a different psychology class when you see a tree or you see how actually it's called the house tree person test and you have somebody draw a tree and you judge the picture by how that tree is drawn or you have them draw a house in dream analysis when you see a car or if you see a house the car or the house where the building is you for example if there's something in your life that's out of control say you're driving in your dreams in a car and you hit the brakes and the brakes just don't work you're not slowing down that means there's something in your life that's out of control because the car is you now in this dream of the house being built in the foundation the house is me which I in turn interpret as humanity this is the new earth that we're building and we're getting the DNA upgrade so that was pretty exciting speaking of prophetic dreams on n5d I have an article called three massive tidal waves are coming and it's not what you think and you can check this out I'll leave a link in the more info section of this video but it's just basically showing us that sometimes what we dream about can be interpreted as either fear or something prophetic now in this dream I saw a tidal wave coming at me I was at the beach and I was calm I turn around and there's a beach house and I go inside the beach house as the water washed over there was no fear whatsoever I could even stick my hand through the window and touch the water and pull my hand back so the water resides I get out of the house and I'm walking towards the beach and I see another tidal wave coming so I turn around to go back into the house and in the meanwhile in the opposite direction another one is coming so I go back in the house and the two waves converge and then they reside and I get out and at that point in time I remember that my truck which I don't own a truck but I had a truck that was up on top of a mountain so I go up to the top of this mountain hill it might have been a hill large hill but I go to the top of it to look for it and the energy had changed it was this energy of just unconditional love that happens at that point now water is immutable energy it can be solid liquid or gas it's also a wave wave is energy so what I was seeing through metaphor in this dream especially because there there was no fear going on are these waves of energy this huge wave is coming and it's going to transform society and then there's a cleansing wave and they'll converge and thoroughly cleanse whatever was left over now some of you will also have prophetic dreams of being in the future as well and coming back in time I've done that in a dream where I sent this was back in I think it was 2009 where I sent myself from 26 years into the future back to present time because the critical mass wasn't where it was supposed to be and I sent myself back in time to help lift the critical mass and it was shortly after that that I created a movie on YouTube called 2012 the online movie and it ended up getting millions of views and the reason I did that movie was number one to help with the critical mass but number two to show that 2012 was not an apocalyptic event it was nothing to be feared and as a matter of fact I just watched that video and it's a long video it's probably I think two hours and 45 minutes and I just recently watched it and there's still a lot of amazing information that's relevant today I'll leave a link in the more info section of this video for that too so I sent myself back in time 26 years from 26 years into the future into the present day which was 2009 so that would be 2035 apparently the year that the critical mass was just horrible and uh sent myself back in time to 2009 I remember somebody saying who are you and my answer was I'm a master copy of myself so I cloned myself somehow and sent myself back in time to change the critical mass now maybe 2012 was supposed to be apocalyptic but not in our reality I've noticed many things have changed since I've had that dream of going back from 26 years into the future back to 2009 many timelines have changed there's been a lot of Mandela effects that have happened even whether you like them or hate them when Trump was elected president I felt the collective consciousness rise that following day I felt a lifting an easement of everything that was going on and the direction that we were heading all of a sudden things changed when he was officially elected president it's important to pay attention to these things in your dreams little things that that go on in your dreams that might seem inconsequential I highly recommend keeping a dream journal I've been keeping one for years unfortunately I had one on my last computer that died and I didn't have it backed up since then I've backed up the one I have on my current computer there's an article on N5D that I released it's called three dreams time traveling creator god manifesting on a UFO mothership and the memory wife not leave a link in the more info section of this video but the one I want to talk about is manifesting on a mothership there's probably quite a few of you who have had these kind of dreams of UFOs being on a ship seeing UFOs in your dreams this was one of mine so a few years ago I had a similar dream where I was on a large mothership and there were 12 of us circled in a group in the middle of the circle there was a hologram where we would each manifest something amazing it was all done telepathically one person would manifest something and it would appear as a hologram we would all telepathically say something along the lines of that is so cool but then one of us would add something extra to that hologram and make it even better we kept doing this until the hologram was completely perfected I don't specifically remember what it was that we were creating but it was fun and amazing so I'm sure many of you have had dreams like that where you've been on a ship or you've seen UFOs it's a really cool dream to have I had another dream where once again I was back in upstate New York in my hometown and I was at the state university college where both my mother and I graduated from and I remember I was walking up toward the student union and there's this huge flight of steps that you have to walk up once again ascending you know the metaphor in there is walking up going up ascending and I look up in the sky and there's just hundreds if not thousands of UFOs just flying around and I had the feeling that there was a mothership that was up toward the student union in the direction that I was heading and it was so exciting I never quite made it there because I got so excited in this dream that I woke myself up out of it so let me take you to this article which is pretty interesting this is a rock star Sammy Hagar's encounter with ninth dimensional beings so in this article Sammy says I'm a firm believer have seen have felt have been contacted three or four different times I've received information that has been valuable in my life from these people and they have used me I'm going to sound like a complete nut here but they have used me in an experimental fashion the easiest way to put it is that they downloaded my brain information when I was about 19 or 20 they downloaded everything that was in my head and I caught them doing it I woke up in the middle of the night thinking what's going on they were like oh my god he's waking up but this was all telepathy there were no words being spoken as soon as I woke up it was probably three o'clock in the morning my whole room was so bright that I could hardly keep my eyes open I was wide awake I could not move eyes open white room they were still disconnecting and when they did it just went bang everything went back to normal back to black I was shaking I almost passed out I was sick to my stomach and almost had to throw up it was so scary it sent me on a course of curiosity I bought a telescope and I started reading UFO books and I just got into that whole thing and since then there had been three or four other contacts with the same group of people I don't know who the fuck they are but I've narrowed them down to a people called the nine who are called that because they're from the ninth dimension I've named my publishing company the nine music after them so as you can see Sammy Hagar has had an incredible experience with this group that he calls the nine matter of fact there's another article on N5D and I'll leave links for both of these in the more info section and this one's called Rockstar Sammy Hagar I met his father in a dream on the night his father died so in this article Sammy's saying one night I dreamed somebody was knocking at the door I got up to answer it wondering who could be knocking on my door in the middle of the night I opened the door and it's my dad only he's like 22 which is a master number years old young and vibrant hey son great day for the Irish he says he's acting crazed really happy but drunk on his ass what the fuck are you doing here I tell him my kid's sleeping right here on the floor right in this room don't ever come here drunk in front of my family you're going to scare this guy now get the fuck out of here I slammed the door shut and went back to bed and that's how the dream ended two minutes later somebody's knocking on the door again I head to the door thinking god damn it I'm really going to chew his ass out this time and I opened the door it's Don Pruitt from next door your sister is on the phone he said I didn't have a phone of my own I went over and picked up the receiver dad died my sister said dad died in the back seat of a police car they picked him up in a park in San Bernardino across the street from the nightclub he had been living in the streets since we left him in that burned out house after the cops picked him up they arrested three more drunks on the way downtown and all the drunks started fighting in the back seat one of the cops sprayed mace over the idiots and when they arrived at the police station and got off the back of the car dad just fell over for once and didn't get back up I often wondered what would have happened if in my dream I had invited him in instead of yelling at him so Sammy Hagar's just like really cool if you don't know him he was the front man for Van Halen after David Lee Roth was kicked out of the band and now he does his own thing with ex Van Halen bassist Michael Anthony and a thick Johnson on guitar Jason Bonham on drums as well Led Zeppelin's late drummer John Bonham's son but Sammy when he gets together with the band before they go on stage they say some mantras together and if you look at Sammy he has this bracelet that says love and light on his wrist so he's just a really cool down-to-earth guy and he's one of the guys that I truly admire especially having the courage to be a persona like that and still talk about his experiences with interdimensional people UFOs and you know what I just read you from what he experienced with his father visiting him after he had already died now here's something cool that you can find on N5D once again I'll leave the link in the more info session of this video it's a free mp3 past life regression self-hypnosis it's a 30 minute mp3 and you just click this button right here and it really works and this was what happened to me when I heard this now what happens is you want to play it right before you go to bed and what it will do is trigger a past life experience I've only done this one time it's all I needed to hear and as it says don't listen to this while driving only listen to this right before you go to bed so this is the past life that I had I was a Mayan elder who was being forced into Christianity after the Spanish Inquisition there was a Christian celebration going on in my homeland which looks similar to an area around Belize very tropical with beautiful blue waters there were Mayan glyphs all around that were worn and tattered I wanted the Christians to include these glyphs in their celebration but they were only focused on transforming the remainder of my people to Christianity they threatened to kill me if I didn't convert to Christianity the only reason I didn't fight the Christians was because I knew the children needed to preserve our traditions without the Christians knowing about it so I lied about agreeing to convert without the Christians knowing I planned on teaching the children of our clan our traditions and values not the Christian ones so for me that explained a lot of why I always had the ebgbs when I went into church my parents were Methodists when I was growing up and they would take me to Sunday school but I'd always get the ebgbs going inside the church didn't know why and that helped to explain a lot of why I got that feeling now one thing I want to talk about too is just this rare thing that I only see young people in my dreams everybody is young even my parents my parents right now are in their 80s but in my dreams they're probably in their 30s maybe early 40s they're the oldest people I see in my dreams only because I wouldn't recognize them if they were in their 20s everyone else is in their 20s myself I'm about 27 my sister Lola who passed away in 2011 she's visited me a number of times in my dreams and she looks like she's about 23 she's young she's healthy she's happy she's beautiful you know everybody comes to me as being young in my dreams now I put an article out on n5d and I also made posts on Facebook as well asking people do you see old people in your dreams and surprisingly a lot of people thought about that and they didn't realize it but they don't see old people either now I'm not saying everybody but it's enough people to make me say oh my god it's not just me there's quite a few people out there that everyone's young in their dreams but in my dreams I'm about 27 years older so maybe 28 29 if you're having a lot of nightmares the biggest thing is obviously there's some kind of fear that's that's coming up or stress related issues that are going on so the most important thing is to clear your subconscious mind nightmares mean that there's work that needs to be done or it could actually mean that you're getting psychically attacked it could be archons it could be implants so what you want to do is practice cord cutting and make sure that any cords that you have attached to any possible negative entities or people are cut you also want to ask for protection from your guides and guardian angels make sure at night you um specifically ask them they're there waiting 24 seven just for you to ask they can't interfere due to the law of free will so get out there and ask another thing is smudge get out there and smudge your house make sure that there are no negative entities in your house I'll go through every room I'll trace the perimeter and I'll say the same thing over and over I'm sure you have your own mantra that you say when you smudge I say something along the lines of I demand any negative entities leave this house immediately you're not welcome here only those of the highest vibration of truth love and light are welcome here because you don't want to kick everyone out you don't want to kick out like your guides and you know family that might not be here with us anymore you want to welcome them here but you want to get rid of anything that's negative so that's what I say when I do my smudging now for those who don't have dreams what you can do and this is a recommendation from Sonya she said that you should place a glass of lemon water by your bed and take a sip out of it before you go to sleep and put that intention into the water while you're drinking it that you will remember your dreams once again you might want to ask your guides and angels to help you if there's any kind of block that's going on with your dreams if you're not receiving dreams if you can't remember your dreams chances are you are dreaming but there might be some kind of block that's going on so help ask your guides and angels to give you some kind of help on that we're going to leave it off at that the majority of this show was recorded four years ago in the summer of 2019 since then I put on a little weight lost a whole lot of tan and lost my goatee as well but then again it's winter at the time of this broadcast if you enjoyed this show please like subscribe and share it on social media and also check out all of the supporting links in the more info section of this video and finally if no one has told you this yet today please allow me to be the first you are loved you are appreciated thank you for your service to humanity so until the next time I'm sending you all infinite love and light from my heart to yours much love take care everyone


Then the timelines going to come we're going to go well. I kind of need to know this To help me make a decision. And so I guess that was my question to you than before But at least setting a goal a goal like Okay, we're gonna make a decision on this day and that way we can set these are party I would like to have all board members I mean some of the stuff yeah some of it's different than I thought it would be but I think it's good for the whole board to come together and be able to have those conversations In a manner that is structured So, I mean, I guess that's that's one thing time frame. I guess I'm just saying saying goal and date and then over the course of the next two three weeks on We can Bring matters forward to brad and say we want to discuss this and brad can set up specific partners that we try to meet And so do you think but then So if I understand you correctly, then if we put all that If we gave our goal for the next board meeting make set the goal for the next board meeting Any issues or concerns or questions that you have regarding the two bond options Would be email to brad and and then we kind of he can email them out on friday notes Here's where we're at here's some of the questions that are coming from individual board members That need answered prior to making decisions and then we can discuss those at the next board meeting Okay, I just wanted to clarify Why can't we do that by the next board meeting? I mean, I know that we don't have everybody here tonight, but toning's on he would be here if he could be um, and then I mean callie doesn't miss a meeting and You know with dawn's health situation. He's not here. So I feel like maybe uh, maybe next meeting might We might accidentally get everybody here Yeah But I think we need to send our concerns to brad like you just discussed Send them so that we can get a list of them because I think those need to be discussed And answered so that when it comes time to making these decisions all that's done Like a weird day Very Well, I mean we can only do what we can do as far as getting people here anyways I believe that the questions and the issues that individuals have with either selection need to be sent in so that we can discuss Collaborate whether or not we get to a decision We still have an opportunity rather than a just saying bond and we don't know what to discuss because we don't know Which direction to go Here's a list of issues that need to be covered Let's cover as many as we can during that meeting and then see where the next one brings us Fair enough, okay Tony you having feedback on on what we're discussing there We're standing because sometimes it's a little hard to hear you guys. Um, you're just saying If whatever issues we need to have that have brad and for the most part be ready Have no have no reason not to be ready next meeting To Come up with some sort of plan to move off. Is that correct? Correct I have no issues about what's going on Okay I'm open to sit here and discuss this all night if you'd like but if everybody's kind of gotten out what they feel like They're going to get out and we can move on Mr. Schoen, aren't you good with that? Okay, then we'll move on to discussion item Paxco Middle School Just as a continual uh to have that on the Court agenda As I understood and that this is just what our savings annually are With that particular building and then decide what you Would like to do with it You know anytime a facility is left empty for an extended amount of time you can drive by it every day and see a deteriorating So I believe that the board needs to keep it in mind that they do have a facility sitting there and we did choose to Get out of that facility for a reason and so The sooner a decision is made as to whether we reincorporated into our operations We gift it or we sell it is going to Help us and the next individual that Potentially has whatever they're going to do with it You know our values just decreases every day. I believe so I think it needs to be a hot topic here in the coming months to decide what to do with that facility I know you provided The costs that they are for us for that I'd be curious. I don't know if we can give you information, but I'd be curious what the cost would be My understanding I guess and I My understanding was a big part of keeping that maybe further utilization of it during the process of a bond passing and using that space In the interim period for students I'm curious what the costs would be Um because most school districts don't have a whole extra building to use When when they pass upon for moving students, what would the cost what would make up that cost? in terms of a bond to have like temporary Structures or whatever they would typically bring in for students because if if that is not a significant amount of money To your point. I'm not sure keeping a facility For that use would be necessary. So now if that's very costly Not make sense to A couple things I guess to think about on that topic is one. It is still costing us money I mean, it's still we still have to have the heat on we're still paying electricity those types of things So you're enduring costs every month or every year anyways Then the other side of that is is there a value to it if there is a certain value then Then obviously that's your opportunity cost as well And then I believe on the previous bond We were not using that facility to house kids in and I there was a number put on temporary And I I mean there's a couple hundred thousand dollars Yeah, I know that it wasn't included. I don't remember what the temporary amount is, but it was included in the bulk Right. Yeah Then to move people at different spots and then they would whatever construction and so Well I think we're all on the same page. I believe we could research and dig into our previous Bond information that we've been sent and find what that number is because yeah, it's if it's several million dollars to house It's different than if it's a couple hundred thousand and it's easy to throw numbers around, right? So I know that by we By the budget numbers you sent it feels like we definitely made the right decision And it really helped our budget over the past operating year doing what we did And so We made a good decision there So we just don't want to let that out of sight out of mind and get away from us I can contact maria to get Because she would have the information off the bond stuff on the temporary things It would you think it'd be a quick easy number for her to throw out and you could send out Yeah Because we might be able to make a decision on that in the next couple months if that's a low enough number To declare a surplus Okay, any more communication about that discussion Tony Okay, I think that's all I'm sure you can see it He didn't okay All right, then moving on to uh the gas bus bid um, we had two bids come in um for new vehicles and um those bids Were a little higher than what we'd like to see the uh low bid was 91,684 and that's uh The delivery was approximately 180 days from them receiving the order The next bid was uh on a 59 faster was 92,046 And as the notes say there we had 61,000 something like that To 65,000 in this year's budget left as far as vehicles We discussed the possibility of Not having of taking ownership and receiving it until the new budget year But I don't know if any group would be willing to do that So in the sense that uh, we want to get it quote on order so that we can get it in time But we don't have the money to pay for it right now Has there been any discussion about split payment like can we put half down you order the bus and we'll pay the other half? Yeah, um State statute won't allow you to do that Unless we go to a to a lease purchase type of thing or something like that, but when you receive it, you got to pay for When you receive it, yeah, so we you're not allowed the state statute doesn't allow you to put a down payment like an order Uh To hold the but I mean what company is going to allow you to order it without any money down I can ask them I can ask them, but uh, I wouldn't under the assumption that probably wouldn't do it, but I'll I'll ask Would you go ahead? Sorry and we still and again I The 91,000 is that something that Would we rather like to wait a little time to see if we can use one because none of them have And I don't know if that's tips you want. Uh, what you want is the what we need both, okay Then I fully support the 91,000 to buy it I I don't like our current fleet and the condition that it is in so I will support a 91 thousand dollar option I feel like it's Probably in our best interest that it's 180 days out And I would think that a company and or a state would allow us a little bit of flexibility in today's environment of Things being available. We just on that transit that we just bought it was so hard to find what we needed We have the opportunity to get what we need. You would think they would work with us on 180 day deal And that helps us split it out of the two budget years and be under budget in both years Mm-hmm Was that company are they concerned with Holding it that long is that their issue? I think Well, I I'm not sure I haven't talked specifically to Well, they're not 180 days. We're happy to wait exactly the next budget year. So I'm just wondering from their perspective I would think their perspective would be they were going to let us order it on with zero money down and hold it For 180 days until we paid them a hundred percent 180 days from now We just want to split it into two calendar years because our budget allows us to do it and not 11 months apart right so So I don't think I think it's bluebird, right or it's uh midwest transit I mean, I would think that's they get to I don't think that'd be a gravy deal for them. They get to use 45 000 dollars in our money for the next 180 days and Get the balance of their payment But I think I'm assuming if it's related to same other Payment methods where yeah, we're not allowed to pay for until we receive it, but 180 days are pretty close to almost that we order it Right soon. We're gonna be into july anyway, right So are you saying then once we are when we rewrite our new budget we increase that from 61 000 to 100 000 in order to buy this one bus and get it in Got it, so if you uh, then want to accept that bid and uh the contingent upon Is that what you guys want? I mean, is that who you want to work with that's all I need to know. Yeah, that's a little bit Anyone that can get it 180 days out good to work with yes, the representative's former Well former president of manhattan school boarder as well as former transportation director at manhattan Is 622 delivery 622 Yes On the gas buses Oh Because of them having the same problems we're having with the diesel with the emissions and stuff I did not call him I did tony He did not answer, but I did get to talk to one of their uh board members and uh that is very close to Them and said that this was a great scenario Moving forward and wishes they had done it a long time ago I think they're up to 20 buses like this in their fleet now I believe that's what that said in their jail was that their fleet that was like a 20 now of gas buses Correct question. I'm just I'm just looking to see if there was feedback there too that Yeah, because if we can if we can get done what was discussed that would be a win man I would thank for everybody right Okay Do we need a little bit? Okay I move we accept the low bid from kansas From midwest transits transit on the uh Gas bus as submitted kelly seconds Any more discussion However, you can get it cut out. Is that okay with you? We're committing to the bid of 91 thousand whatever dollars, so Whether we can split it two calendar years or pay for it next calendar year Okay, all those opposed. Please say I Motion carried Thank you for your research net appreciate it. You bet. Thank you for your help All right, uh moving on then to executive session Under confidential data relating to financial affairs or trade secrets Of corporations partnerships trusts and individual proprietors ships That executive session will last 10 minutes. Yep. Okay 10 minutes all those in favor. Please say I Opposed same sign We will be back four at six fifty Who uh seconded To move to go into executive session And I don't have the proper verbiage in front of me. I apologize For negotiations You know for negotiations Is that going to be acceptable or do I need your research? No Okay All right And then uh and so uh for a period of 10 minutes That okay. Yes. All right meeting will resume back in here at six Oh at 701 Okay, okay All right back into uh Regular session. We are on to personnel I move we approve employment as submitted which is substitute teacher land landry called burn Approve uh Mitch Bomption as emergency substitute and transportation director clint thompson It's been moved in second. Is there any discussion? Hearing none all those opposed. Please say I Motion carried Superintendent board member forum mr. Starnes just a little information on just the fact that with the ice storm We kept track of everything That we were turning in and turned into the city for their insurance And we received a check of four thousand seventy five dollars from e mc from damages from the ice storm last year The other thing as far as the district population Changes and look at possible Redrying our board member districts. I think that I sent you what abby had sent us About what we've been statutory limitations and registered voters. So that this time unless there's Another need I think we're fine in in our board member districts Yes 158 so you have a difference of 200 which I think is fairly significant and could affect things like Board elections and sure and we get individuals that are hopefully willing and able to run I guess I would I don't want to dismiss that potential of redrawing the district lines to get more affordable I think it's great information appreciate you bringing it Brad and abby for putting that information together As I said prior to the election, I think we ever choose to do that. Maybe it's something we choose to have two at large members and five district members instead of six and one We're such a large spread out district having two at large members may not be the worst thing in the world Then making each individual district larger coverage area as well, but that's just I'm not saying it has to be done. I just thought of as an idea Is there a process we have to go through or I mean, I mean, obviously we want to leave it the same We just keep right on rolling but yeah, just uh We have a in july at the organizational meeting You can choose like your what you're talking about. We're going to go to a different plan And I don't know off the top of my head those specific options Some have all at large And then what that may look like but I can get that information together You get it to you like Friday and then the other piece is just the yeah, there is a process to go through and abby was getting with the Secretary of State, I believe that does that and how to go through all that redistrict And what that net There I see we see how many hoops if I guess a jump through to do it, but And then what everybody else thinks Curiosity is all Think what he's going to do is send it out in Friday notes as to what The answer to some of those questions and then we can decide from there That program Okay, all right, uh, brad do you have anything else? Your own Thank you all for coming in Oh, Tony you have anything bad No, sir. All right Then I will entertain a motion to adjourn Tony's in the books All those opposed say hi Motion carries meeting is adjourned


For the circuit python parsec today, I want to show how you can use display text labels inside of display I O for writing words on your displays inside of circuit python. I can control the position of this on screen using some of the buttons and you'll also notice that I'm writing out the coordinates of the text object there as I move it around. So let's bring this up to zero zero how this works. I'm importing terminal I O for the font, importing display I O and importing Adafruit display text label. I set the font to be terminal I O font and then to create a text label, which is a special type of group in display I O that can have text in it. So I create this, I'm calling this one big text label and then I use label dot label and I set some settings which font I'm using. I'm setting the scale to three. So it's big. What text I'm writing. And the color here, which is green. Then I'm setting an explicit position on screen. I append this text label to a higher level hierarchy group called text group that I created. That's so I can put two different things in here, but you'll notice I can move one of them while leaving the other one in place. And so this is one of the cool things about using text labels that they are groups that can be lots of groups inside of one larger group which is the main display.  And then I'm using the buttons to just increase or decrease the X and Y values. Their origin point is the far left of the text and halfway down into the text. So that means you can't really start stuff on zero, zero with a font this size I started at zero on X, but 10 down on Y. And so this is text labels inside of display I O in circuit Python. And that is your circuit Python parser.


Data binding is an important process in Angular, and so it's the process or the mechanism used for pushing or pulling data, depending on which direction the data is being sent. So Angular supports both one way and two way data binding. So in two way data binding, data is always bi-directional. That means data can start from the source out to the view, back to the source, or if you want to save from the view to the source back to the view, however you say it's still going to be the same thing. So let's again review this AngularView model here, and the data binding events occurs right in the module between the template and components. So in two way data binding, data property value flows from the component to the input box. This is the property binding, and then the users make any changes to the input box and the data flows back to the component, and then we're setting the property to the latest value, whatever that value is, via this event binding. So two way data binding combines the property and the event binding into a single notation, and this is achieved in Angular using a very special directive called ngModel. So let's go and take a look in the code. Okay, so here we are on the IDE. I'm going to go to the front again, open my terminal and run the app. Well, that's running. Let's go open the SRC folder into the app and open the app component HTML that's the view and then the source app component.ts. Okay, so that's running. And we want to make sure the app is running. So let's go to the browser and view the output. So over here. Oops. Okay, so in the view I'm going to go to the local host 4200 and this is the previous one. So as you can see, it's working just before. All right, so let's go to the code and let me close the terminal. All right, so two way data binding again. Remember it's coming from the source out to the view into an input box input tag and then from the input tag back to the source again. Okay, so the whole loop cycle there. So we can we can just do this here in this example using this thing and put here the message here. As you can see this way we did here is almost kind of like a two way binding except it's done a different way, right? Because we invoke a function called click me and we send the message and this text field the value back to a function. Function goes into and then implement or actually update the message down here. We update the message and then this message is going out the source direction to the view again and been displayed back in here. So anyway is doing this two way data binding, but that's not how it's done. So we're going to modify this a little bit. So now instead of doing the key up event we're going to bind this to a property called so you see the property usually we have value property, right? Equals to the actual message itself. This is the actual data field. But then you do this separately later when we learn about forms. But for two way data binding you will wrap this inside the value here replace that with a event called ngModel. This is a special directive in Angular. So this is also known as a banana operator because it looks like a banana I guess. But this is how two way data binding works. You bind to an input type of tag either input a select or a text area, right? And if you mouse over this it tells you something about cannot bind to unknown property. In order for this to work because usually this ngModel usually works with forms, web forms. We have to go and import a special module called forms module. So let's go and open the app module TS here and we need to import a module called forms module. So in here forms module and we're going to import that from the Angular form. Slash forms, okay? We need to import that there. And so this module need to be added to the ngModel as well and to this metadata. So in the imports here, this imports all the modules. This declaration imports all the component. So you can see that all the modules, you can see the browser module is put in here. The app module, a routing module is put in here. So I put in the declarations, that's just how it starts. So this is a module. So we're going to add it to the list here, put a comma and add the forms module there and then save this file and then we can close it now. So it goes away and now it's working. So this time it should work just like before flawlessly. You can save that now and go back to the browser. And you can see if I type in here it worked just like before, right? No problem because the data now flows from this input box to the source to a variable called message. And the message is then sent back out to display in the view here so we can see. But really what's happening behind the scene is that from this input box directly to the variable welcome in the back view has a direct connection that we just don't see it. So really it comes back right out here because it's hard to see that. So I'll put that so you can see here. But just to show you that it does work that way, let's go and modify this a little bit. Okay, notice when we tie this to the message, this is similar to how I did up here, right? We do a one-way binding. We bind to the style but then the variable is green and the green data is interpolated into this location. Same thing here. If you take out the ngModel then it's like the value, right? And we bind the value to the, it looks like this, right? You bind the value just like this and the message goes right here, okay? And that's what it looks like. So if I do like that, I go back to the source and let's just say the initial message was high there like that. If you save that and go to the view, you see the message is right here. This is the initial data so we know it is flowing from the source to the view. And then the other way around going from the view to the source is by removing this value and replace that with an event called ngModel, this angular model. And that's how data goes to an event, okay, directly from this variable, this view and then out back to the source and then comes back out. So you have this same behavior we saw earlier with the click function, but this time you don't need the click function because it does automatically. And so just to see how this works, really, I just showed you, but we can change this click event to say something like, hi there, okay? So when I click on this event, this function, it's going to, what happened here? Yeah, so did I do something wrong here? Not sure. Okay, so back in here, we can pass the value back in here. I'm going to change the value to whatever it was to a message called hi there. Well, I have the hi there. Let's remove this message back to blank, okay? And I'm not sure what this message shows up here. Did I do something correctly? Oh, that will close here. All right. No, in here is the single quotes. Let's put a single quote in here. Okay. Too many quotes here. All right. So when I load this, I should get nothing in the message box. When I click the button, it's going to fill that message with the word hi there because I click the function and the function calls. And then it changes the message to the word hi there. And then the hi there message is tied to the model here and also the output. So you can see that changes, right? So back in the view, here again, if I click on click me, you see that the message goes right there. If I make some changes here, this is now two way binding. If I change this back, you see that it changes back. So it just showed that one way binding and two way binding works in Angular. So that's simply it. How you can use data binding in Angular for two way is using the banana operator. And one way is using the, either you do it this way using this attribute, your binary attribute, or you can use the color basis like this.


Hi, everybody, and welcome to Editing the Wikiway software and the future of editing. Next slide, please. So before we get started, some logistics. Well, I think we just got a little turned around. OK, so we are here to talk about how the foundation product development teams and volunteers might evolve our software together to help newcomers make edits that fit our project's policies and grow into active and productive contributors. So we'll start with an introduction from staff. Then we're going to hear from a mix of volunteers and staff about some ideas for how we might answer this question. And then we're going to open it up to discussion and Q&A. Next slide, please. So before we get started, just some logistics. So first, please visit that etherpad link you see there. That's what we'll use to post questions. And then for those who are interested afterwards, we're going to be in the RIMO space to talk more for anyone that is interested. Next slide, please. So we need to diversify the ways in which people can contribute to our projects. And we need new voices to identify these new ways. So if you are here watching now or listening later and you may not have asked a question or entered an idea in a space like this, we hope that you'll consider doing so. Because if you do, we want you to know that all of us here will make sure that that thought is safely and warmly received, really because the movement depends on your voice being heard. Next slide, please. All right, so here's how this is all going to go down. We're going to start with the issue that's brought us all together, the impact that this issue has on newcomers, the state of the software today. We're then going to go through those ideas that I mentioned a slide before. And then we're going to open it up to discussion. Next slide, please. Yes, you're probably wondering who this person who's been talking is. That's me. My name is Peter. I work as the product manager for the editing team at the Wikimedia Foundation. And one of our core responsibilities is the visual editor. And we relate to this problem insofar as we as a team are asking ourselves, what can we do to help newcomers be empowered to make edits that projects value? Next slide, please. So the core issue is that the number and complexity of Wikipedia's policies are growing. And the current methods that we have for educating newcomers and making them aware of these policies, it's just not cutting it. And I think this point is really solidified by a recent study by the Art and Feminism Project in collaboration with Wikikred, wherein they found that newcomers, not only did they find the guidelines difficult to read and understand, but in many instances, exclusionary and disallowing to the kinds of knowledge that people wanted to share. Next slide, please. So the impact of this is pretty simple. Newcomers get driven away. As our projects mature, we learn more and we embed those learnings into our policies. But a consequence of that is that our policies get longer, more nuanced, and they also remain far away from where edits are actually happening. So you make an edit. It doesn't quite fit. You get reverted and you're driven away. Let's go to the next slide and we'll look at how this actually plays out. So if you look at the screenshot to the right, this really is an actual story, and it kind of plays out like this. So this newcomer was assuming, you know, reading Twitter and they notice a fact about an event they're interested in. Naturally, they go to Wikipedia, notice that fact wasn't represented, and decided to add it. Then they saw, oh, I should probably cite or reference this, so they clicked Cytoid. They entered the URL for the tweet that evidenced that fact and they published. Everything was like pretty seamless. Next slide, please. However, the interface didn't really prepare them for what would happen next, which is that that edit got reverted. And that edit got reverted because in this particular case, a tweet doesn't qualify as a reliable source. So all of that energy and good faith that this person brought to make the edit was undone. And the editing interface didn't really do anything to set their expectations. And so that's really what we're here to try and understand more deeply and generate ideas around is how can that interface evolve to set the expectations for people that, hey, there are kind of rules and guidelines that need to be followed. And we don't think that onus should be put on you to learn about them after the fact. So with all of that said, I'm now going to hand it off to Marshall Miller, who is going to take you through an example of how he and the growth team are thinking in this same space of kind of evolving our interfaces to help set clear expectations for people who are new. Marshall? Thanks. Hi, everyone. I'm Marshall Miller. I'm the product manager for the growth team.  And the growth team is the team at the Wikimedia Foundation that works on increasing the retention of new editors. And we do that through changing the software. And most recently, building workflows that help the new editors contribute while they learn and while they adjust to the Wiki. So what Peter's been talking about are these barriers, barriers that are technical about how to use the tools that are related to policies and Wiki concepts, how to understand what is an acceptable encyclopedic edit. All of these things are really challenging for newcomers. And what happens is there's a lot of people out there who try to contribute and could become great Wikimedians, but they never succeed at making any valuable contributions and they don't stick around. So one approach that the growth team has been working on is thinking about what kinds of editing workflows could help these newcomers be successful and help them learn along the way. And this idea we called structured tasks. And the idea is that we can take certain editing workflows, certain common kinds of edits, and break them down into steps that guide and teach newcomers along the way instead of requiring newcomers to figure it all out themselves. And so I'm going to show you an example of the most recent one that we built. It's called add a link. So the growth team worked on this task by adding it to the visual editor. And it's an example of how can we extend the visual editor to allow people to edit in new ways that help them learn. The add a link task helps a newcomer add a Wiki link to an article, which is a pretty simple edit for a lot of us, but is actually hard to figure out if you're brand new. And I'm going to show it to you on mobile. These screenshots are from a mobile device because so many of the new people that are coming to our projects, they actually only ever use mobile devices to use the internet. So among the features the growth team built, here is the suggested edits feed, which is where a newcomer can choose an article to work on. And so first, they choose a task. And then after choosing a task to do, it explains the guidelines around doing the task. So for this link task, here's one of the screens that explains you need to make sure you're adding links only to concepts that need them, don't link to really common words, years or dates. And then when they get to the task, the way that it works is that an algorithm offers words or phrases that might need to be made into Wiki links to other articles. So here from this example in Czech Wikipedia, this blue highlighted word, it's asking, should this become a Wiki link to this article? And the user can choose yes, no or skip. And this is a way for them to successfully complete an edit with some guardrails around them so that they can't get too far off the field while also learning some of the policies and guidelines about what words should become links. And then finally they publish it and see that they've added links to some words and not to others and move on past that, having learned something about editing. So that's one example of a workflow that we built inside the Wikimedia Foundation that's now being tested on a handful of Wikis that is a new kind of editing workflow that would help newcomers learn along the way. But we at the Foundation, we're not gonna be able to think about, imagine all of the different kinds of workflows, all of the different kinds of policies that need to be taught. We need to be working with communities on this. And so that's the question we're trying to talk about today. How can we make it possible for people beyond just the Wikimedia Foundation to build some of these new editing workflows to get into the visual editor and extended in new ways? How can we empower community developers and communities to do that? So we wanted to brainstorm some of these ideas together. And so now I'm going to turn it over to these set of demos from volunteers and another WMF staff member. And we're starting with user Valegiapo from Italian Wikipedia. So go ahead. Hi everyone, I'm Valegiapo and I edit Italian Wikipedia since 2019. As every Wikimedia, I've been a newcomer too. And as a newcomer, I've made some mistakes. Mistakes that I repeated until someone made me notice them. Next slide please. And there comes the robot I've been working on in the past few months. Basically what it does is checking for newcomers edits, checking if there are mistakes and if there are writing them a message. That's easy, right? Next slide please. So let's see how this works. A newcomer is probably going to push the publish changes button. But how Marshall said, this is quite just an editing software. And so no guidelines are given. So newcomers are just going to click the button and maybe going away. Next slide please. So the bot is going to detect those edits and check if there are mistakes. Next slide. If there are, newcomers are going to receive a message in their doc page in order to unknowledge those mistakes and so stop making them. Next slide please. So I've encoded some of the most frequent mistakes I've found and in those we can find links to these ambiguity pages with links in section title, is external links in body and so on. This concept could be extended in a tool. Of course I wasn't able to work on it but I believe that's a really good starting point. Thank you. Thank you Vala Japo. Yeah, so that's really interesting that you're encoding these kinds of policy rules so that the bot can notice when they've been broken and then warn the newcomer. But as you were kind of saying, this happens after they make their edit and they may already have been reverted once they find out about these rules. And so I think that something we've been talking about is how can we get this information to them while they're editing? And so that would be a really great direction to take this thought. And so I wanna turn it over to user leaderboard from English wiki books to talk about their work on abuse filters and how those can be or have been used around that idea. Hello, can you hear me? Yes. Okay, this is just, that's, okay. So yeah, so I am leaderboard and I'm generally my so-called home wiki is in the English wiki book. And next slide please. Yeah, okay. My work is content on abuse filters which is a pretty powerful and flexible tool that allows handling of spam and vandalism. For me, the main draw of abuse filters that it allows an easy way for to handle spam and vandalism and all the nonsense while allow an estimate contributors to work freely. So unlike having a protective base which is destructive for everyone, abuse filters allows us to target the only problematic editors. And another useful draw is it works in the background. So it only activates when it needs to. So the average user would not see it and would not be interfered. Would not be bothered. And the last one is that it is really effective against long-term abusers which are basically users that just come and have no intention other than to vandalize wiki. So then it is very clear that they have no estimate purpose so they're not good fit users. So right benefit of abuse filters allows us to handle those cases pretty effectively while allowing an estimate contributors and normal users to work without any issues, especially new users. Next slide, yeah. So this is an example of an abuse filter, a public abuse filter. So it's mainly Reddit, which is called regular expressants. And this is an update experiment. This is a filter that's meant to cats uses that try to do some silence vandalism and politely draw them away from it so that they don't make that it. And they understand it's not, this is not a place to be doing vandalism edits. Next slide. And these are some of the conditions that can be effected on the abuse filter. So you have flags, you can set a flag to be hidden from public view, which is really important for filters that are targeted. So for LTF filters, we normally keep this in flag on because it's an LTA filter. We don't want LTFs to be coming and using this filter to the advantage. Then we also have a lot of options that can be taken when the filter is hit. For example, we can just give a warning and allow the field to use the continue. So we can give a warning saying that your edit may not be contributive, you may want to reach a get it. And the most common action is to just prevent the actions and get no, this edit has not been processed or this edit has been disallowed because of this reset. And in more extreme cases, we can decide to block the user from editing, which is which we rarely use. And it is only used when there is good reason to use it. For example, large case vandalism from a subset of users. And it's also important that when you try to block these, you will definitely have false positive because a perfect filter does not exist. And that is something which even, even we have to keep watch off because it will always happen. There have been uses affected by those filters. There is not a lot we can do about it, but that's the toughest balance. It's a tough balance maintaining, allowing filters to be hit when they need to, but making sure the filter do not hit when this didn't be the next slide. And this is an example of a popular filter being hit. As you can see these filters, this filter was hit like under on rapid succession. What was actually happening was there was a well-known LTA who was constantly attacking the wiki. And this filter managed to hold up against a lot of the edits while making sure that other contributors can continue without being affected. So you can see that they were like, you can see that it's in a few minutes because they have the IPs, constantly changing their addresses. And that was something that this filter was able to detect. And next slide. I think there was one. So this is some of the, this is what happens when a filter gets hit. And this is a warning saying that, I mean, this is an error. So this says that you have added an excellent link and users may become confused because they may be wondering, I just added a site isn't linked. But on this site, we actually block excellent links from new users because it's almost all spam. So we then tell you still, I know you may have had good intents, but we are forced to block excellent links because normally it's just spam. And if you think you had a good intention, we are sorry for that. And you can please, please let us know through this page. And then we have a page where admins and reviewers can handle those links, handle those false positives. There's a lot of this happening. The question is how to handle them. Next slide. This is an example of a warning. So the message clearly says that you're trying to, the user was trying to redact the page that clearly does not exist. And the filter caught this and the filter politely asked the user, you may be redirecting the wrong page. Make sure that you know what you're doing. You may be trying for fun. You may have accidentally made up, you might have tried to redact one place, but when the redact in someone else, we may have actually redacted to a full Wikipedia links. You may have accidentally used the wrong type of links. So all of those cases that you caught by this filter and the filter politely tell them that you may be doing the wrong thing. You may want to recheck your redact and then the better, the good thing about it is that it prevents users from accidentally redacting them to the wrong page and accidentally creating a message. And accidentally creating a message as a result. Next slide. I think that, yeah.  And for some, okay, it's not that, for some filters we do not have a particular reason. So for this is a particular scape of an LTA. So we just tell them that politely tell them that your editor has not been saved because of some reason. And if you have a, and if you think that's a mistake, please let us know. And this is an example of what happens to visual editors, the previous screenshots to the Wiggy 2010 editor. This is an example of what happens if this is on visual editor. I think that's about it, I believe, for my thoughts. I'm not mistaken. Great. Yes, thank you so much, Leaderboard. It's really cool to hear from WikiBooks, which is a project we usually hear less about. And it's interesting to hear that abuse filters, as you can tell from the name, were originally meant to stop abuse. But as you're showing us, they can become a tool that can also be used to potentially nudge users or warn them that they're on the verge of saving an edit that might not fit with policies. So thanks for showing us that and that additional way that communities can try to nudge newcomers. And that's helpful for us to understand. So next, we're gonna turn it over to, advance the slide here, to Olga. So Olga is a design intern at the foundation. Please go ahead. Yeah, hi, everybody. So yeah, design internet foundation have done some work for the growth and editing team. And now on the iOS team. Next slide, please. So as we've heard Marshall talk about and the other presenters talk about that it's difficult for newcomers to learn about policies. Oftentimes they see, if they do try to learn about them, there's a lot of text, it's hard to kind of get your footing and understand them. This policy check is our designs that are based off ratios that I did about kind of this newcomer experience and how we can help them out with understanding policies. And also, first of all, show them where they're going wrong and also maybe use it as a learning opportunity for them to then also learn more about the policy itself and about kind of the Wikipedia ecosystem. And here, they do all that before they publish. Yeah, next slide, please. Here, I'll just go through an example of what this tool could possibly look like. Again, these are just ideas. It's not in production or anything and there's still a lot of questions that we haven't answered yet. But for instance, if a newcomer is editing or contributing to an article and then they have this popup come up which says, would you like to activate this tool that will help you? That will show you essentially if you're breaking any policies or guidelines and give you suggestions and if you click activate, then next slide, please. The text gets highlighted and what this shows is pretty much different colors, indicate kind of different policies you might be breaking or different suggestions the tool wants to make. So if you're interested, for instance, in the kind of the highlighted green area at the end of a sentence, if you click there, next slide, please. You get this screen popup that would show you the suggestion that it has for you. So for in this case, it's at a citation. The actions of the newcomer can then go forth with is either adding that suggestion or ignoring it but also on the bottom of the buttons, there's text that says actually adding citations is important for verifiability which is like an important policy on Wikipedia and if you kind of proceed without citations you might be reverted. And in this case, verifiability and the word reverted are links. So if the person's interested in knowing more, they can from here but also there's also an opportunity to learn more on the bottom, which is the blue ink. Next slide, please. And if they choose to click on this link, they'll be brought to this other screen, which has different tabs. So first it could have just like an explanation about the policy, for instance, and then it could have other tabs with just general policy and guidelines. But this idea behind this is to have kind of condensed information that could be helpful to start to introduce these concepts and words and terminology to the newcomer. And then also maybe have some editing tips with further links and even have potential community resources stored in the screen. So it's kind of this initial stage from which then the person can explore new concepts and stuff. So if they have kind of read through this and understand what they're doing and if they actually choose to add the citation, next slide please, then it just becomes the kind of classic out of citation screen and then they can add their citation there. However, if they choose to ignore the suggestion, the highlight becomes essentially gray and then when they go to publish, next slide please, they would get this pop up that is pretty much again kind of telling them that you've ignored a couple of suggestions. If you keep doing that, there's a high chance you might get reverted. Like, are you sure you still want to do that? And when I was kind of creative designs, I thought it'd be also nice to have some kind of potential follow-up. So in this case, it says like, would you like to maybe have these suggestions sent you to email, they can review them later. So you can check that or not and then continue publishing as normal. Next slide please. And as you see, that's just a quick demo of what this tool could possibly be like. But then there's still a bunch of research that could be done in this area to clarify things like for instance, when is the best time to introduce this policy to check to an editor, to not, you know, so it was introduced too early, so they are not frightened by it or that it's not introduced too late. Also, how would this work with source editor? Should this kind of thing be on source editor? And also how can we integrate existing tools? For instance, you know, how Marshall was talking about suggested edits and kind of the work the growth team is doing, how can we integrate those things together? And that's it on my slide, thank you. Great, thank you Olga. So that's such an interesting exploration because it's an idea that would give a heads up to the newcomers before they save their edit, that they might be running a foul of some policy so that they don't end up being reverted later. And so for these presenters we've heard from so far, they've all been talking about how do we nudge these newcomers and get the policies across to them as soon as we can in the editing process. For our last volunteer, we're gonna hear from user Enterprizee, who's been thinking about a potential new kind of editing workflow entirely that could make more volunteers or newcomers more comfortable with policy. So over to you Enterprizee. Thanks Marshall. So hi, I am user Enterprizee. I am from the English Wikipedia and I write code that helps other editors and hopefully newcomers do their jobs more effectively and efficiently. Next slide please. So today I will be presenting with the aid of very professional mockups, my workflow for suggesting an edit, which is distinct from actually making an edit because what I realized a while ago was editing is a very imposing barrier if you haven't ever done it because if you go to some of our more polished articles, it really doesn't look like there's anything for you to add because there's a lot of, there's a very bold statement to say, my sense belongs in this seemingly highly polished article. The metaphor I used was if you have a brick in your hands and you see an unfinished brick building, then everything's good and you know where to put your brick.  And that's the situation a lot of editors say they end up in when they see, one of our featured articles or good articles or even one of our other articles that are quite long. So what I thought of was a way for people to suggest and propose edits that other editors can then implement. So next slide please. So this is how you would bring up the tool. There's a new tab I envision between read and edit, suggestive of its position as an intermediate step between reading and editing. And the first step of the workflow is you select text in your article and you mark it as something you'll be making a suggestion about. Next slide please. And that'll bring up a dialogue with some options that are fixes that people commonly make. So one thing is you have a source that you would like the article to use. So that brings up like the standard source picker. You may want to move the sentence to a better location or you might want to tag it as maybe too technical or too confusing or something like that. So next slide please. I've, yeah, next slide. I've come up with some further design ideas for that. This is going to be a bit of a lift on the abuse angle because it's a totally new thing. So moderation is going to be more difficult. So maybe we could restrict to the sources that people can use. As you can see in this whole dialogue, there are no free form text fields. That's a big important thing because the last time we put those out there, if you may remember the article feedback tool, that was difficult to moderate. All right, next slide please. And then on the editor side, this is what they get when there's a suggestion, there's a pop-up on the right side of the article and they can hover that to view the suggestions that have been made and hopefully implement them. So that's all I got. Okay, great. Thank you, Enterprisey. So we're now going to move into the discussion part and here it's how to get involved. So this again is the link to the etherpad where anyone can type in their questions to the etherpad. So please start going ahead and doing that. It could be your question, it could be a comment or it could be an idea you have. You might say, on our Wiki, we have a tool that does this or we've wanted to build a tool that does this. And again, the central thing that we're trying to talk about here and get ideas going about is for all of the community members out there, how can we change our software? How can we make it possible for you all to plug new kinds of workflows into the editing experience, extend the visual editor, customize it to what your communities and your projects need? That's something that's been really difficult in the past and many volunteers like the ones on this call have found ways to do those kinds of things through scripts or gadgets or abuse filters or bots. And we want that to happen more in the future so that people are empowered to shape this experience. So Peter, I'm gonna turn it over to you to ask this first question, which I think comes from the attendees. Yes, thank you, Marshall. So we're gonna take Mark Bauman's question first and I wanna pose it towards both Olga and Balejapo. So Mark asks, where can they learn more about the common mistakes? I think you were referring to the mistakes that Balejapo encoded into BotTutor. So this question, I'm gonna pose it in two ways. One, for Balejapo, can you share what led you to prioritize those particular set of mistakes to start? And then Olga afterwards, I wanna go to you and have you kind of speak to why you chose the particular policy that you did for the demo. So Balejapo, to you first. Thank you. So basically I just started testing and I've set up the filter, let's call this way. The filter my bot is currently using in order to just consider newcomer's edits. And I just pasted all of the edits in a log. And then I took some time reading it and I found some of the mistakes that were most common and also I kind of figure out myself other mistakes that new user could do. However, if you need a full list of the mistakes my bot is currently checking for, you can find it on the reader pad at this start. I also base on reading above your question. Awesome, thank you Balejapo. And then Olga, I think, you know, I remember you doing some research about looking into the mistakes that newcomers make most often. And I think that informed the policy that you ended up including in your demo. Can you maybe share a bit more about that research and the common mistakes that you found newcomers running into? Yeah, sure. Thanks Peter. The way that I went around is also going and looking through old research papers and seeing kind of information that could extrapolate from there. For instance, there was one paper that talked about policies that were the most cited so assuming that's the ones that were brought up the most. So kind of instead of going from what are the mistakes that newcomers make the most I was also looking at what are the things that newcomers should be kind of learning first and what are important to learn to understand how to edit on Wikipedia. And that's how I came to first look into kind of after the long process of researching and looking through the papers to also look into the three core content policies and then also pick out verifiability out of those because without verifying your sources and adding citations, the article is considered legitimate. So, and I thought that would be a very kind of important thing to include and to kind of bring up to newcomers like on their first day of editing. Great, thank you Olga. So to follow up on this, I'm looking at the etherpad and there's a few questions kind of getting at the same thing, which is for these kinds of policies we all know that there's so many policies and guidelines for the wikis more than we can count and more than we can put in a list. I guess this question is for Valajapo for Leaderboard. As you're thinking about writing a bot as you're thinking about writing abuse filters how hard is it to encode some of these policies into actual software? Are there ones that are really difficult to detect ones that are easy to detect and what could make it easier? Are there tools or documentation or something that you could use that would make it easier to know whether you're succeeding in encoding these policies into software? How about that goes to Leaderboard first? Yeah, so my question is by policy do you mean policies on the wiki books? Like do you mean product related policies or do you mean some other kinds of policies? So one thing that I was thinking about I remember when we talked earlier, Leaderboard you were talking about how difficult it is to test the abuse filters, right? And that was a great example of something that makes it currently difficult for you to encode these kind of policies into the filters. And so like could you tell us some more about how that could become easier? Right, so the main difficulty when writing a filter is that I mean the testing is correctness is probably one of the more difficult parts of a filter because the current abuse filter interface gives us no way for us to figure out whether a particular test edit would trigger a filter or not. So all that you can do is look at check where the pass edits and that too with some conditions. For example, deleted edits don't count. Check where the pass edits will trigger a filter. That is useful but unfortunately the problem is that it does not help in more complex filters such as when you're trying to test like what IP I need to use. And that's what I would say is a difficulty. And the difficulty is that the abuse filter just kind of gives you syntax, it does not give you any way of checking the correctness of the filter that is where the filter does what is expected. And some kind of basic debugging tools such as for example, break points and common ID tools at least in a miniature form would probably help me as a filter writer to check where the filter is working as expected. Great, that makes sense. And that's a really like concrete learning that Peter and I can take back to our software teams to remember that as we empower communities to extend our software, we need to also equip them with the right tools to monitor and test whether what they've added is working as expected. Peter, do you have the next question? Yeah, I wanna ask this question because we don't have an answer and it's one that we'll need to collectively think about. So the question that was asked was how do we address the issue that policies are not used slash implemented uniformly across different Wikipedia's? And the reason that I wanted to draw attention to this particular question is because the way that we're thinking about this is that ideally we develop some platform or system that allows individual projects to customize the kinds of notices and alerts and feedback that they surface to editors in ways that conform with their projects. So that's number one. The second point that I think is inside of this question which is another excellent one that we don't have an answer for right now is what is the relationship or the connection between changes to policy and then changes to the corresponding software that encode that policy into the editing interfaces? I have no idea what the answer to that is right now although I wonder if any of the other panelists have ideas around this particular thing. Well, Peter, I'll just speak to your first question about how can communities customize the way that policies are implemented in software. There's one idea that the growth team's been working on that I hope everyone can check out and it's called community configuration. I'll put a link to it in the etherpad but if you search that on mediawiki.org you'll see how we've tried to build a form that allows administrators on Wikis to set the configuration for the growth features that applies to all users. We think that's an idea that would allow each Wiki to be empowered to customize the software to their culture to their needs. I'm seeing a question in the etherpad that's interesting about our language and I think this comes from Carla. So it points out that the word revert is we're all very used to it but it's a pretty technical sounding word and it's really more like being refused or undone. And it's like there's this question of how much should we be mindful of the language in our software that can convey these policies or convey what's happening. Wondering if anyone's thought about that maybe Olga you could speak to it from a design perspective or enterprisey from the tools that you've built. You've put language into these tools. How do you think about what it should say? I think the language is super important and I think there's this, because editing and competing you're coming contact with language that you don't usually come in contact on your day to day. So like there's this bridging between using especially for newcomers using the language that they'll often see if they do continue editing and kind of getting them more comfortable with it and having them understand what this language means but also as they're kind of onboarding on this Wikipedia experience like making sure that the language that we do use when we introduce these tools to them they can comprehend very easily and can draw links between, you know like Oh Reaver is kind of like an undone or whatever, you know. So I think it's just a fine balance that we have to really pay attention to language I think something should be in the forefront. Yeah, language is very important. We have a lot of jargon floating around and like we periodically get complaints on the English Wikipedia about notability being a confusing word. And if people who have been steeped in the community for years and years are still getting confused by this then imagine how the newbies feel. That's yeah, really well put. We are getting close to our time so I think we all just wanted to collectively say thank you for coming. We are gonna mine the ether pad to make sure that every question is addressed either in text or on the wiki page we will let you know where that happens. And then for those who wanna continue talking Marshall, if you could maybe put the instructions back up to these. Oh yeah. So it's gonna cut us off here in like 20 seconds. So if you wanna continue the conversation join us in building six floor to table A and RIMO or find us on the wikis because this is just the beginning of this work and we're gonna need to hear from all different communities all over the world about how to do this well. Awesome. And thank you to all our speakers who were just tremendous in collaborating on this. So thanks everyone and thank you for coming.


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