Hello everybody and welcome to a OpenShift Commons gathering on community development. If you joined us a little bit earlier, we had a slight technical snafu with the sound, but other than that, things are going wonderful this morning. Thank you for joining us. If you've been to an OpenShift Commons gathering before, you've probably come for the tech. Usually we do OpenShift Commons gatherings around Kubernetes and KubeCon or Red Hat Summit or around a theme like machine learning and AI or telco or Edge or one of those things. And usually you'll hear a lot of engineers and technical folks talking about the latest and greatest technical releases and things like this. And you'll also hear a lot of people like myself who are the community development people that help to build the communities around these technologies. And so today, we are going to do something slightly different. We're going to be talking about developing the communities around the technologies and how we do that, what some of the best practices are, and all kinds of interesting conversations should arise from that. And I'm really pleased today to have with me my colleague and fellow researcher in this arena, Daniel Esquerdo from Bitersia. Want to say hi, Daniel, and introduce yourself. Hi, everyone. Yes, sir. So I'm really excited to be here with you. Also, thank you. Thank you, Diane, for this opportunity. So be about me. Well, I have to say I met the first time Diane in 2014 in OpenStack Savvy in Paris. That was the first time I heard about OpenShift and OKB and the project itself. Since then, we've been collaborating together and advancing in the research and the work we've been doing together. So be about me. I'm one of the founders of Bitersia. We started in 2012. We do silver development analytics at the scale. That means that we can analyze any ties, projects that matter to you. And in this case, what matters for today is, well, we'll discuss beyond these walls, but is OpenShift and CNCF ecosystem. So, yeah, lately, during the last couple of years, I've had the opportunity to join the Chaos Project as well. So the technology we are developing, of course, is open source remote labs part of this project chaos. And we'll have an introduction and what help means by the chairs of the project, Matt Germanprey and Gert Link. So I'm a board member there. And then I had the opportunity to serve as a member of the board of directors at the Inner Source Commons that we'll discuss about the Inner Source as well. So this is me, and I'm really happy to be here. So part of the reason that Daniel and I are in this together is in, we wrote an article a few, almost a year ago now, about moving from art to science when it comes to community development. And so we've been having these long discussions and doing a lot of work around understanding and analyzing who's in the community that we are working in. And it actually is really not about an individual community. It's about the massive cloud native ecosystem and all of the people. And if you read the article or if you've seen our talks on this, this is what I call the jellyfish diagram. So you'll see it quite often. And each one of these little dots here represents a person in some GitHub repos posted an issue of full release, full requests or merge or documentation or some issue on a mailing list somewhere and how they're all interconnected with each other. Each of the large bubbles represents different projects, whether it's at CD or Kubernetes or OpenShift. So we've been busy working together, mapping out all of the relationships and using that to really drive a conversation about how to understand how communities work and how they're interrelated because we're really kind of on it about cross community collaboration. So the other part of this puzzle is that there was a conference that was going to happen in ChaosCon in Austin. So we started this little conversation, Daniel and I, because ChaosCon got canceled that we thought and we had a paper accepted so we were going to go and talk there that it would be that what we were missing were the hallway conversations. Since we're not where everybody's virtual now, we don't get to meet our fellow community development folks and dev relations folks that we normally would get to either browbeat or ask for insights into what they're doing and how they're working on things. So we really had to really figure out a way to revive that piece of the puzzle that helped us understand what was going on and the coaching that we got from our fellow folks out there who are doing this. So we really kind of started to think about how we could set up something. And so today is really about having a very long conversation, eight hours with everybody that we would have liked to have seen at Kukon in person, in the hallway or at Red Hat Summit in person or at ChaosCon or any of the other events that are getting kind of side pushed aside for virtual stuff. And now we know this is virtual. We're streaming on Twitch and YouTube and on Facebook and it all is going to be recorded and we will be pushing it up on the YouTube channel afterwards in chunks so that you can digest it at your leisure. But our goal really is to kind of have the equivalent of a DevOps day or a GitOps day for community devs. So maybe a community dev day is kind of how I'm thinking about this. And today's focus is really on creating inclusive and diverse and connected and hopefully healthy communities of all types. The stuff that we do in business and technology, all of us have years of experience working together to build communities around technical and technology initiatives. And most of us outside of our work lives bring those skills to other initiatives and there's lots going on in the world today that we try and take, hopefully, what we've learned and using at work and apply them to things that are happening in the real world or the ever-changing world and bring more diversity and inclusivity and be better allies for other people out there in the world that need help and need our support. So one of the things we're gonna talk about today is really the diversity and the health of communities, how do the lessons that we've learned over the years really pushing the edge there and trying to get some of the experience from the massive amount of community leaders who have volunteered to show up today and talk about it, what the best practices are, what the lessons they've learned, how to measure health of a community, how to be a really good ally. We've got some great talks coming all day long. So please, if you have to drop out for an hour or two, come back and be part of this conversation. The way it's going to work, hopefully, if you're listening to this in Twitch or in YouTube or on Facebook or I think he's even streaming it to Periscope, I have no idea where that is. But all of the questions and the chat is aggregated and shared with us in the, we're using BlueJeans under the hood so that the speakers can get your questions and answer them. And I've staged the day so that what we'll have is a talk by one of the many speakers to set the conversation, to set us up for about a 30 minute AMA session or ask me anything session after that conversation. So we have a really kind of tight schedule, but I'm gonna say that it's gonna be a fluid day. So obviously we're running a little bit late already. We have some really amazing people that have decided that they're willing to share their experiences with us and tell us their stories. Liz Rice will be joining us shortly to talk about incubating cloud-native projects. She's the current chair of the CNCF's TOC or Technical Oversight Committee with a number of SIG leaders from the CNCF. I've decided to start to stage the day so that it would start off with something really pragmatic, something that we really, most of us who are on this call probably hold near and dear to ourselves is the cloud-native ecosystem, which the majority of us probably are members of. And then a colleague of mine, Jay Bloom, from Red Hat and Dimeji Onofua from Microsoft, who have been working together and our researchers in design. And it's not in design as in furniture, but as design as a real conceptual thing are gonna try and bring us through through a conversation about what we call recombining communities. And he'll explain that concept and talk a little bit about allyship as well. And so we'll have a conversation with them about that as well. And then we have folks from the Chaos Conference. Yorg and Matt are going to talk a little bit about what Chaos's initiative is, what their practices are. And then we have a number of folks who have been working closely with them who are gonna be available in the chat for that. And then in the afternoon, if all goes well, starting at 12.30, Tamal Nakahara from WeaveWorks, who most of you probably have run into at some conference. We've been colleagues on the road and she's worked with everybody from Pivotal to WeaveWorks to a huge amount of people in the dev relations space. It's very important to me that we do talk about DevRel as part of community building. We have lots of people who have huge careers and have done lots of great work building up through developer advocacy and evangelism or however you call it at your company. But there are a lot of the faces of who people meet to learn about our tech. And they also do have an important role. And then Tari Kares from OpenSac Foundation is gonna talk with us about some of the lessons that they've learned and where the OpenSac Foundation is going and what their journey has done because I think we can learn a lot from what they've done there and how they've reinvented themselves. We've had one slight cancellation. Josh Simmons at the last minute had an issue and can't join us. So we're gonna see if we can get Hong or Ilana to step up and give his talk but otherwise we'll turn the 230 into a panel. And then we have some closing remarks around what we're doing here and what we're gonna do next after this event. So just a quick word about the AMAs. They're ask me anything if you've ever been on Reddit they can get pretty interesting. We have three live streams going on today. The conversations are open to everyone. There is no price tag on this, it's precious. And we'll be aggregating the information and putting them in. We do request your patience as we learn the ropes of this new virtual conferencing process. As you can see we're already running a little bit behind and we've had some issues. So if you can just type it into the chat wherever you're watching this. We are watching the chat channels and we will try and aggregate all of your questions and get them answered. We do have a code of conduct. It's really be kind and respectful. We know this is virtual, it is open to all. We're really dedicated to providing a harassment-free experience for all the participants of our events. And we really ask you to behave in accordance with professional standards and respect your employer's policies and all the governing appropriate workplace behavior and applicable laws. And if you have questions about that you can click through. We're gonna try and imitate the Linux Foundation's code of conduct for today. So really, Dimeji who is going to be one of the presenters later today. We are going to really lean on a lot of folks here from that huge group of folks to lend us some of their privilege, provide some narratives and hopefully keep them honest about the lessons they've learned and their biases and all of that wonderful information that they have about building communities and try and share that with everybody. As I always say, my goal is to not talk. It's to give away the podium. But I think in this case, really what we're trying to do is use the tools and the privileges that we have as employees at some of the major corporations building the tech to empower other people. And really, as Dimeji says, it's really refuse to say silent, create spaces for people to share the information and hopefully build better communities, stronger communities and keep them engaged and healthy. So with that, I'm gonna pause and let Daniel fully talk for a few minutes. I would like to stress the idea that we have in the title for today of the CIF Commons Gathering on Community Development and it's not community management because the idea is that we are moving from a world where communities were a couple of hundred of people involved, having in mind everyone. So you can know all of your community members so you are all kind of a big community but now moving to a massive community as we have nowadays, for instance, CNCF ecosystem, we can have a look at the landscape, right? So it's like, that's the point where we need to go and move to a more data approach, data driven approach, so that's why this is happening. But in any case, I'd like to say, and I think this is really, really important that this is all about the members of those communities. It happens that with the tools that we have nowadays, we can help each other and reach out other members and newcomers and try to get out the onboarding process, have more inclusive communities and diverse communities and thanks to the data and the tooling, this is the way we can proceed nowadays. So yeah, I'd like to bring an anecdote here because so when we were presenting this paper that this is based in previous work we were doing together. So this is about the OpenSIFT and CNCF ecosystem what we were analyzing. So if you remember that car that we had before, that Jellify is that the really big one star was Kubernetes, right? But then at the bottom, one of the big ones were OpenSIFT. So then in OpenSIFT, that is what matters in this case to Diana, one of the projects that mattered to her. The interesting thing here was that we wrongly assigned the organization of a given developer and then it happened that given the connectors that Diane has in the community, it was really interesting that that guy was finally introduced to Diane through some other community members. In this case, as far as I remember, Red Haters. Yeah, thank you, thank you for the chat. And now then we discovered by then that this person was coming from another company and then that company is one of these large corporations in Asia. So they were kind of trying the technology and so on because this was what I remember, we found this in, you know, Katie in the corporate, well, I don't exactly remember, but the point was that even given this misunderstanding that we had with the data because we wrongly assigned the main of that person to a specific organization, then we realized that that person was coming from this large corporation. So suddenly this is like, oh, we have these people trying or taking the technology and that's really, really, really interesting. So what can we do from a community perspective to have a really onboarding and fast process to have these new people quickly helping and dealing with the community and knowing each other and so on. So it's true that we have this massive community that you see now in front of your screen but then each of the dots are the important ones. Then we have connectors, we have main events, we have important people here and there. So that's the interesting thing. There was a Harvard Business Review article and it was very much focused on continuous connection with customers and I've been doing a lot of thinking about cross-community collaboration and from the diagram that you saw with the jellyfish there, how is one who is a community development person supposed to manage all of those connections and understand those and keep up with those and nurture those and nudge those things and in a world in which there are so many ways to connect and there's 24 seven, 365 global connections that we have to nurture. And so what does it mean to be developing global communities that are touching on all of these different pieces and parts of ecosystems in today's world? And the link to the Harvard Business Review article is right here underneath. So I encourage you to read it. It is very much customer-focused but what I kind of was trying to frame out as a conversation piece is the recognition that we are really now in continuous relationships with all of our community participants, whether it's if you're still in the old days and loving IRC and trying to connect IRC with Slack so that you're only in one space or you're on Stack Overview or you're in GitHub and in GitLab and doing issues and all kinds of other tracking stuff. There's so many ways from TikTok to Snapchat to who knows what to connect with each other and to reach each other and to share information and really try and figure out how we build better conversations around getting the information out there to people and nurturing those in a healthy way that shares the podium with everybody in the community because we know the internet is not distributed equally. So one of the things that the article says and read the article with a block of salt or a cup of tea or something like that because it is very customer-focused but I think the interesting thing that they mentioned here was from the customers from when the customer recognizes they need or a community member recognizes they need something from the community whether it's technology, documentation or they need to give you feedback and they make a request and then you fulfill it in some way and then they respond to the fulfillment and then it's this cycle of recognize request and respond and repeat. But in order to do all of that, we have to really understand where these connections are, who they are and how they are all connected and how they respond to each other. You'll not see Liz didn't get in yet. Pause in for a minute just to check. To really see how to do that is effectively and appropriately and as quickly and seamlessly as possible and that's really kind of one of the crazy things about this world is that there's an expectation that one as community managers or architects or dev rail people that we know all of these connections, we know all of these people and we have this massive Rolodex in our heads and it's almost, it's impossible to get there. So one of the things that we really, we're trying to tease out today in our conversations and maybe setting the stage here by doing this talk first, we'll kind of set the stage for some of our other conversations as well is really how do we develop effective and inclusive connected strategies? Because there's a lot of things that we touch on and often we as community development people don't use all the same tools as someone would use in business development or in sales or marketing and that like that. We tend to not take on some of the automation and the pieces to do that, but with this new world, we kind of have to make sure that we are responding to these desires to participate or desires for information or desires to contribute to information to the initiatives that we're part of. And one of the aspects that they talk about in the Harvard article was about creating and tailoring curated offerings. And I think that was one of the things that struck me is often and when we're in a technology community, we overwhelm newcomers with a ton of documentation or a demo that's a deep dive or something and we're trying to give them everything we can when we don't really segregate them out by what their needs really are and trying to create more curated offerings that we can use. Then there was a lot of conversations and I think we all do this is trying to coach good behavior and to get people to contribute. There's a lot of work that we can do in terms of coaching and nudging people, especially after they've made that request and you've responded to it, often we see people fall off and go quiet. We don't know, we don't follow up enough. So it was interesting in this article to me that one of their keys was to try and figure out what they call automatic execution and that just reminded me of the automate all things kind of conversation that we have about in technology with CI and CD pipelines and this whole move to protesting and everything that it's the same kind of processes we need to put in place. But in some ways, and as we've all been inundated with marketing and all kinds of strange things that come into our email boxes, it's really important that we still humanize the relationships as well to maintain these contacts between folks to use the technology but not to be used by it and not make people feel like they're being marketed to in these community events. So that's been one of the things that I'd like to tease out today in some of the conversations that we're having. Around using the technology that other people use across our businesses to use in our community development efforts. And I think a lot of us have used some of them but we haven't really done it in a practice measured way to a lot of, to the large extent. So some of the questions that I ask is of myself and others when I'm coaching them on building communities when do you first recognize someone as a participant in your community? And by this I mean is like when they come in is it a stack overflow question that they're asking? Is it their boss told them that they had to go figure out how to become a cloud native? Or is it just a cursory I'm in the Slack channel or I've tweeted something or what is that potential point of entry into your community? And when do you actually as a community person flag them as someone who's a participant in the community? And often we don't do that until it's they've already done an issue or logged an issue in GitHub or made a given feedback or attended a conference or something. But it could be as simple as a tweet or something like that. So when you start to look at who is actually in your community it becomes a really kind of interesting concept of when they actually touch into your ecosystem and the different roles they have from end users to service providers to engineers to maintainers to all the different roles that we have. So I think one of the things that we in order to do this kind of thing we have to really get better about the metadata that we collect and how we classify participants as there's participants on the edge that sometimes we don't recognize. The other thing that we've done and if you're part of OpenShift Commons and this is probably gonna be the most controversial thing I say is de-anonymize a lot of folks. Some of the work that we've been doing it's a lot of the folks that participate in OpenShift and Kubernetes are unaffiliated and a lot of the tools that we have today are making it rather easy to add their affiliations and so we can figure out where they're from and one of the things that we did with the Commons which made a big difference for us is we asked people when they joined Commons to use their corporate or their organizational email addresses. So if you're in the Commons Slack for example you're probably using the affiliation that you want to be affiliated with as your email address so someone could see in Slack what the luggage is or the baggage is or your corporate master is so that it's identifiable and that made it really easy for people to find each other and have these conversations in a more trusted way. I'm not sure everybody agrees with me on that but it is one of the things that's really I believe has helped us in the recognition of the participant to help participants recognize each other. And so this is kind of an interesting way to segue into this conversation is to figure out the very first touches that we have with these companies. Yeah, sorry for interrupting. So there is a really interesting experiment that they are running at the ASF so there are other communities I'm aware they are doing this but this is this friction lock that interns for instance coming from Outreach or where some of our code need to fill just in order to understand how the process of onboarding process, how to start from scratch is felt let's say by a newcomer in that community. So I don't know if this is something that you have for the open seat commons. Yeah, we do have an interesting onboarding approach for commons itself in that when a new we consider ourselves an organizational based community. So we would then if someone joins say from Toyota or Honda or something like that they join once for all of Toyota then anybody can join from Toyota from the CEO to a janitor. It doesn't really matter to us what your role is at the company you can join as long as you use your corporate email address. It's an automatic add into the Slack channel on the mailing list. So there's that self identification. So that's I think is that answering your question? Yeah, so I mean well kind of so the idea is if you are a newcomer for certain technologies might be open seat for instance, question is how can I be held? So are there specific mentors for instance in the community or are there specific people helping in this process? Because we were I just have in mind that we run a specific analysis for the SNAC community a couple of years ago about mentorship and then in that analysis of course we were analyzing around 40 different interns that they had over the years. We cannot compare 40 people against thousands of developers or community members that there are in the community. But what we found that at least that's starting a starting point to dig a bit more into that is that those people that were mentor tend to be longer than they use on average in the community. So that means that perhaps having a mentorship process some coach process, et cetera might be helpful for those newcomers because they will have this sense of community. Even more nowadays where it seems that the face-to-face meetings and so on are kind of moving to virtual meetings this one for instance. So I was wondering if in the open seat there's something similar. There's a couple of things that we do when we do on board folks for this is that we ask them to first add in to come and do an introductory briefing. So in commons one of the first things that we do is schedule a session with them to talk about either what their role is in the community if they're building a product that integrates into OpenShift or if they're an upstream project lead we make them give a talk on that as a way to introduce themselves to the rest of the community. So that's one of the tenants of the commons is to give away the podium and then give them a way to be recognized in the community for what they do and where their contributions are or how they participate in the ecosystem. And then the other thing that we do is on an ongoing basis try and rinse and repeat that. So we'll try and get them to do one introductory one and then we'll get them to do something that's a follow up maybe with someone who's an end user that's implemented their technology or a customer of theirs or some other aspect of their technology used in place in some production way. And then we always offer to do a follow up on that with something that is a new release or a new piece of the puzzle that they can then update their information that they did in the introduction. So we try and allow them to create some content that makes it easy for the rest of the community to get an introduction to what they're doing. It doesn't work all the time because right now I think we have around just under 560 member organizations and one of my goals this year had been to try and get every single one of them to do an update and there's only 365 days in the year so that's not quite gonna happen but we try and get as many of them in as possible and then again at the gatherings that we do like with this one we try and pull people in to make them participate in some small way in the community as well. So that's one of the things we're really adamant about is and it's kind of funny because here I am running on is it not being red hat always talking and the voice of the commons. It's really the commons is about the community and where the community touches on OpenShift, Kubernetes or any of the upstream projects and how they relate it. So that's been quite an interesting set of briefings that anyone can find them on YouTube. They're all in the public and if anybody who's listening here wants to be part of that they're welcome to do so. I'm gonna pause here for a minute to see if any of the other participants who are listening in for the speakers today would like to get in on the AMA here. I know we hadn't, we're putting you a bit on the spot but there's a bunch of you who might have other things to contribute here as well while we get ready to stage for our next talk. So if you're interested in that I can unmute you and you can add into the conversation and are there any questions coming in from the Twitch or Facebook's streams? I'm gonna unmute the folks who are going to be the speakers at the, on the other section here and see if they will join us. So Alois and I'm not sure if Brian and Aaron and the folks who are here. So there is a question from the audience. Oh yeah, Chris already shared this here. All right, let's see, Karen is asking, are you working with the existing communities? We are a 2,100 plus people strong community of cloud native devs. We are, so the diagram, if you saw this back here I'm just gonna go back to this beautiful whole here. This diagram from here, it was part of one of the things that was really interesting to myself and to Daniel about the community issues here. And I'm just gonna unmute some folks here if they would care to dive in here. They're welcome to. Is that we, Brian and the folks that were going to be part of the CNCF one and this kind of gets back to the CNCF. All of these bubbles here in this thing represent, and I think you might be talking about the cloud native one, but the cloud native community is much bigger than 2,100, but what we've been trying really hard to do is to make sure we understand all of the relationships between all of the different communities. So we are working really closely, especially from an open shift perspective with all of the people in the cloud native ecosystem, whether it's the different operator frameworks or Prometheus or any of the open source projects that are part of the open source cloud native ecosystem, as well as if anyone has ever looked at the cloud native landscape diagram. Thank God it has filters on it, but it is a rather busy environment here. And so part of the scene, we didn't, for some reason, Liz Rice hasn't been able to join us today to give her short talk on the CNCF's incubation process. But I think one of the things that's really then interesting to watch is the development of the incubation process for the CNCF and the sandbox processes for the CNCF and how they've been growing and changing those processes and leveraging the SIG, the special interest groups, to do the review and to offload some of the work from the TOC into the SIG so that there are more eyeballs reviewing and doing due diligence on new projects coming into this ecosystem. So we have with us a couple of folks, actually three, Erin and Erin Boyd, Brian Lills, and Eloise Reitenbauer, I think I said that right, who are all SIG leads in different pieces in parts of the CNCF. Wondering if each of you might talk a little bit about the roles that SIG plays in helping this cross-community collaboration with other existing communities and the new ones. And we'll unmute you. Erin and Eloise and Brian, you are now officially unmuted for the AMA. All right, good morning. This is an interesting topic. I actually broached this topic last year at QCon on the main stage towards the end of keynote where I was talking about communities just in general in the ecosystem. And I think one thing that we fail quickly on is we think that the community is just a plane, like a horizontal plane, but we all work for these big massive companies who make so much money and employ us. So there's vertical segments to this too. So really when we think about community, there's the ecosystem, all the things that we need to keep this thing going, so whether it come up from Linux, to Kubernetes, to the cloud made up that's baked on top.  And it might just be a smaller sliver or silo. And what we need to do is we need to make sure that companies can be profitable in this realm because if they're not, it goes away. But we also need to make sure that we don't break the community. In a lot of cases, CNCF helps with these protocols that in CNCF and Kubernetes project offers these protocols which we can all get together and work to build these things. But then outside of that, there's groups like Red Hat and Operator Framework. They're free to explore and build them in space and hopefully if they have a good enough solution, people will use it. And it doesn't hurt anyone else. And I just think that whenever we're thinking about communities, we think about it in more than one plane. And I'm sure there's even more planes than two that I raised. Yeah, I think that's, it's a good point. One, I always sort of jokeling refer to it as our corporate masters. That the acknowledgement that there are a lot of companies who have a lot of stake in the game. And but there's the other side of it is they're also funding a lot of the engineering resources that go into work on these projects. And I think that is the amazing thing. They're not all reinventing the wheel, but they are making different wheels. And so it's kind of the processes that the CNCF has put in place. And we'll hear some more from Terry Carras later on in today about how OpenStack did some of that work and how the lessons that we've learned from them as well. But I think it's an interesting, it's never one-dimensional or even two-dimensional. It's like this multi-dimensional chess set trying to keep all of the players in these communities. It can keep track of them. And I think that's one of the things that's really important in that the CNCF gets right a lot of the times, not all of the time. But I think their use of the SIGS has really helped, at least getting some of the early projects and initiatives, again, I say, giving them the podium to share what they're doing and talk about it and influence and maybe find other collaborators to work on similar things. Erin Alois? Sure, so I'm the co-chair for the CNCF, George SIG. And I think it's been great because for a long time the TOC didn't have a representative that was an SME in storage. So I think it really gave a good place for projects that even were in a tinkering stage or a thoughtful stage to come with like-minded people, talk about their ideas, talk about their project. Like you said, get other people involved across the community. And we've seen a lot of very early projects come through that process. And go from sandbox to incubation by doing that. And so I love the idea of the SIGS not only offsetting just the work, but providing kind of a diverse environment of people and users to discuss who understand the technology. And I think that's important because I think part of the CNCF's goals is to have projects that enrich the ecosystem and not just if you pass the criteria, then you're in. I think it's been a very thoughtful process to figure out what adds and even competes with different projects. What can we give the users in this environment that really provides something different or unique? And so I think the SIGS have really been instrumental in doing that and have allowed us to go a lot deeper on some of the projects. Doing the due diligence, I think Brian and Alice can also speak to this is pretty time intensive. And generally it means going and setting it up, trying it out, looking through all the documentation, talking to users. And I think by using the SIGS, we're able to really put in the time that's necessary to look at these projects in depth. So I can appreciate that having originally, I think when we only had six TOC members, way back when, and now we have, like you said, the landscape document is just huge. It was unrealistic to have those people. And though we've grown the TOC, I think it's still such an asset to have a diverse group of co-chairs and people attending these SIG meetings to help drive those decisions. Well, I see that Liz has just popped in and joined us and Liz do not feel bad at all about this. And you're muted. I'm gonna unmute you so you can say that. I'm betting.  Yeah, they're evil. Don't really don't worry about it. So what I did instead just to catch you up is I gave my final talk that was gonna be the closer for the day, but we'll have to figure out some other closer for the day. And the whole day is pretty fluid. So I just unmuted after I gave my talk the folks that were gonna be your AMA chat panelists. We could pause here unless Eloise wants to say something quickly and let you give your presentation if you'd like to do that. And we'll just stage that. And then if you've got your presentation handy, can you figure? I think that can give me a minute to make sure I've got the right one. Yeah. And then taking this opportunity to give Liz a bit more time and also share my perspective. I think a lot has already been said about the process in the CNCF. And for me personally, it was very interesting because I was coming more from a standard background which is a totally different level of collaboration. And I learned a lot. I think the help, the six definitely help. I think here because they can dive deeper into topics and can spend more time as Erin mentioned. I just sometimes feel that when projects come in, so there's like very different maturity levels which the CNCF also wants. I think the biggest clarification you have to make is just like being a project in the CNCF is not like this magic moment where suddenly the community is going to change. Like, okay, we want to be in the CNCF because we want to grow our community. That's why we want to be in the CNCF project. And then that's this process where suddenly everything will happen. And this is very often we have to provide people, yeah, but so what are you planning to give to the community? How are you planning to engage? Probably you have a lot of voice that you had before but it's not going to happen by itself. It's like still a lot of work that you have to put into. You have to get good things going. And that's where I just saw like some of these misconceptions where I really like this idea of like building communities and how to bring people together. Sometimes it's really about giving an audience and it's almost like, okay, I want to have my project here. And for some of those projects, the first question was, shouldn't you be talking to this guy? Shouldn't you be talking to this guy? We're like this facilitator and then the projects come back and say, the only thing you really wanted to do is just to get my suggestions done. So yeah, but we're actually giving you a bit more than this. It's like contacting you to people who you should be speaking to or who might also be interested in what you're doing. And as people then try to move in the direction, we can see some of them really starting to appreciate this. I think one doesn't really replace the others. I think the very important role for, especially that is the NCF here and the project is also to Brian's point, like we all work for companies who obviously have a commercial invest. And for some of us collaborating, in some cases it's really hard if there's no independence or parties, because like on an everyday basis, we might be more in the competitive situations. And I interestingly had these situations in my past where I was working with people in a standard, so a collaborative way while at the same time being engaged in the same customer engagement in the competitive setting. I think what these independent organizations really provide is this collaboration for people in the safe space where they can work together. Yeah, I think you brought up a good point at the beginning of this too, is that I think a lot of people think that if they get a sandbox or they get an incubation status that some magic is going to happen around developing a community around it. And they do get a larger podium and some visibility. There's still all of the work of developing the community is still needs to be resourced and still needs to be part of their strategy and their planning and their roadmap. And I think that's a good way to segue into Liz's talk.


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Hi everyone, Joe for jazzy'scasewrakes.com. We got some of the 2022 Bowman draft sapphire coming at you five box Random team number six second half of the case that we popped open last night. Remember I marked those six Early bird spot giveaway as well. So for the first 16 You got a chance at an extra spot Let's roll it. Let's randomize it five into five at ten times name on top after ten Chance an extra spot one two three four five Six and ten the hard way after ten Daniel Dilo with the extra spot little buy one get one All right now. Let's get you a team also, Tristan I uh, I Accidentally sold 30 spots in this break instead of 29 I forgot to account for the early bird spot and I know you got two spots, but I refunded that second spot I'm sorry about that. Just letting you know All right now, let's assign you a team Let's randomize it six and a four ten times ten the easy way one two three Four and ten After ten we got Chris down to Chris Six and a four ten times with the teams one two three four 10th and final time after ten we got the Padres down to my Dodgers Chris with the Padres Rob with the Guardians Wade Orioles Tristan with the White Sox Bradley with the Astros Tristan with the A's Daniel with the Cardinals Chris with the Pirates Dale with the Nats Tristan with the Cubs Greg with the Rangers Jacob with the Rocks Daniel with the Marlins Robert with the Giant Anthony with the Red Sox Tristan with the Phillies Wade with the Twins Daniel Mariners and Royals Ryan with the Brew Crew Dale with the Rays Greg with the Angels Tristan with the Reds Rob with the Braves Daniel with the Diamondbacks Shade with the Tigers shake with the Yankees Daniels early bird spot Mets and The Blue Jays Chris Butler. You've got the Los Angeles Dodgers Let's alphabetized by team We're gonna pause the video when we come back We're gonna see if there's any trades and then we'll have the five box break stick around BRB Alright welcome back ladies and gentlemen No deals were done here in Sapphire six Bowman draft Sapphire six The next half case break is from a fresh case See what we got in here. Good luck This is Bowman draft. So we're looking for guys like that like Jackson holiday Checking on that diamondback numbered card and after I pop these open, but Yeah, guys like Jackson the holiday to Mar Johnson Elijah Green So on and so forth all hardship, of course If we took the holiday It would be it would be so nice. There's Jackson holiday Wade and the Orioles and there's a 17 out of 50 Sal Stewart Reds that'll be for Tristan in the Reds and the Diamondback behind Emmanuel Rodriguez is Ivan Melendez Yeah strong for at Dave 98 out of 99 That's Daniel with the Diamondbacks We got five out of 15 Caven Wallace We're a nice low number there Daniel with the Royals second round pick nice and next one is Danny de Adrande 70 out of 99 for the twin that'll be for Wade in Minnesota Elijah Green It's for Dale and the Nats fifth overall We got Kenya Huggins 42 out of 50 Cincinnati Tristan with the Reds and we've got Nate Furman 94 out of 99 for Rob and the Cleveland Guardians of the Galaxy You think they've done a Guardians of the Galaxy promo at any point You think they will they should if they haven't isn't there a holiday? Isn't there a new Guardians of the Galaxy? Movie coming out in the summer Gotta have a garden to the galaxy that What kind of promo that writes itself Is a new Ant-Man any good Randy says nope Yeah, the Ant-Man Didn't really move the needle for me in general. There's Cesar Pietro Prieto that is 50 out of 99 O's Wait on the Orioles. We got that other Jackson holiday. You guys say sorry as well And we got a purple eight out of ten Jason Dominguez Jacob in the Yankees And Yasser Mercedes is one of the bigger names for the twins as well All hardship that goes to Wade and the twins Randy, why was it terrible? Just everything bad writing bad acting bad special effects Uninspiring villain all of the above The kids made you go see him because they love the Marvel and even they said it was terrible. Oh, no That's not a ringing endorsement ladies and gentlemen thankfully this break is not bought to brought to you by The new Ant-Man picture Here's a Jackson choreo for the brewers not his bowman first, but You're looking Ryan was looking for some color on this, but Got at least one there Solve a chance at some color. We've got a green Kenya Huggins 45 out of 50 that'll be for the Reds that's gonna go to Tristan and the last one here is Dylan Beavers 36 out of 99 Orioles Wade and the O's And that's our final parallel. Let's see what else we have here Diaz Hernandez Crooks Lee and Lenny Leonard There you go gang. I'm Joe for Jasper's case breaks calm. Thanks for getting into this bowman draft sapphire The next half case break will be from a fresh case. Check it out. I'll see you next time for the next one


Good morning everybody. It's a rainy day here in Northern Nova Scotia. Empty trailer. It just needs to be swept.  So this load's done. Gotta go up to a town called Point Saepin or something in Northern New Brunswick. And I'm pretty sure they're gonna load me in the morning cause I'm not gonna get there by the end of business day but I'm gonna make a few calls now and see if they can still load me today. Well, we got some good news. Everything's good out here in the Maritimes apparently. The shipper loads 24 hours a day, which surprises me cause most people don't do that. They like to go home for night but I guess they got a night shift that comes in and loads trucks all night. So they'll load me whenever I get there. Or whenever they got time when I get this first comfort served by the sounds of it. But right on.  It's a good day. I told you it's gonna be a good day. What are you doing with my pants? What's he doing with my pants? Why do you have my pants over here? Huh? What? Why are we sleeping? What are you? I don't know what you're talking about. What are you doing with my pants? Where do those come from? Did you pull them down off of here? I think they'd gotten wet in the rain before and I was drawing them up here. You pull them down. I just wanted to feel like I was close to you. Well, that's sweet, Diesel. Look at this.  Look at this, eh? Such a good boy. You wanna go pick up some peat moss? You want some peat moss?  Peat moss? We're gonna go to Georgia. And then after Georgia, we'll go home. He'll start getting more excited as we get closer. How about we go for a nice long walk later? How about that? You're tired. He's been sleeping. I've been here unloading for two hours now. I took a little longer than I expected but that's totally cool because my shipper loads all night, apparently. Man, I thought I was gonna be late and they'd have to load me tomorrow. I was getting all panicked and eh, I'm gonna be behind, but you know what? Like I was saying, if you just have a good attitude, things usually work out. Let's not keep them waiting too long. We don't wanna take advantage of the fact that they load 24 hours a day. I still wanna get there as soon as possible so that I can get down the road as far as possible. I don't know how cold it's gonna get in Northern New Brunswick. The weather around here looks kinda stormy but it always looks kinda stormy around here so I don't know how to read the weather out East. In Manitoba, it's simple. Just look west. That's what's coming this way. Out here, I have no idea what's going on. It's all better to play it safe than sorry. I don't wanna get stranded and then run low on fuel because when the Maritime's gets snow, they usually get like four feet overnight. You never know. Oh, tell the world what I'm doing. The government wants to know, what's he doing? Mindy, stop moving. What's going on? I gotta do with my belt. Do you guys gotta undo your belt when you drive too? I think it's just cause I'm a little fat. Otherwise the belt buckle digs into my stomach. It's uncomfortable. All right, let's grab some fuel. Diesel, you wanna pump the fuel? 15 big ones again. Here, I was pretty sure that they only took cash a while ago but that's obviously changed because of this whole COVID thing. Nobody likes using cash. I don't carry cash ever. I always use my cards and plastic for everything. Not my credit cards. I don't use them. My debit cards, I never have cash on me. If anyone were to steal my wallet, they wouldn't get anything cause I could just cancel everything in five minutes. The E-Pass line, some N beautiful. Whoa, lucky you. Oh, the dog. Yeah, the dog. Yeah, he's got nice ears, yeah. Between Eastern Canada and Western Canada. Ah, I got no checkpoints going this way apparently. Maybe they're up ahead. This is just the scale. I guess we're not technically at the border yet. That's probably what it is. It's probably up ahead.  Kind of a personal question to ask if you ask me. Stop before driving onto platform. There you go. You see, I'm a good boy. Now let me go. Here that they had the scale on that side of the border. Usually it's into the next province. Maybe there's another one up ahead cause here's the border coming up here. It was just down the road. You see the three Nova Scotia flags here on this end. That guy I was telling you yesterday like inverted Scotland flags, a little crest in the middle. New Brunswick side. Crossing border, entering New Brunswick. You'll see the New Brunswick flag there. It's like a yellow flag with a ship on it with sails, a lion up there. They're telling us to slow down here already. So I'm guessing they must have their checkpoint up here somewhere. Nowhere else in the country has these checkpoints anymore. I've just seen them in the Maritimes, but you never know. You never know. They might also open them back up. Everyone's starting to freak out again. I've got stuff to deliver. Well, I've got stuff to pick up and then I've got to deliver it. I'm just doing my thing. Diesel and I are pretty isolated here in the truck anyways. We only talk to maybe one or two people a day and that's when I'm getting my coffee. Okay, this off to the left here. This is where the checkpoint was. Well, Diesel, I guess we can take this out of here now. I had to dry this before it got wet. Raining like crazy when I was unloading in the morning. That in my fancy little closet here. Oh, I messed up all my hangers when I did that. Oh well. So we're here at the shipper and apparently my appointment is for 1 a.m., but they should get to me soon. They got to get all the guys in front of me done first and then when it's my turn, if it's earlier than 1 a.m., it's earlier. And it sounds to me like it'll probably be quite a bit earlier, but we'll have to find out. From here, I want to go down to a big stop somewhere or down to a truck stop just so I can sleep somewhere with showers for the night. I'd like to shower in the morning or even tonight yet if I can't, I guess we'll see. I gotta wait to get loaded. Now I'm sort of in the waiting queue. They have a parking lot, which is kind of nice. So they come get you when they're ready for you. So I can just have a nap if I wanted to and they'll come wake me up when it's my turn to get loaded. All I gotta do is back up to their outdoor dock and bada bing, bada boom. They throw all the pallets on. I strap them in, close the door, seal it up. We're done. Still, so much easier than flatbed. I, other than the people I was working with, I don't miss flatbed at all. Oh, I like this. This is nice. So the way it works here is they're loading on the other side of those trucks. You can sort of see them through the window there, right? And they have a whole lineup of trucks here. My appointment was apparently for 1 a.m. 1 a.m. And I got here about, what, seven o'clock? And so they got a lineup of all the trucks who are all here early and they're getting them all done really quickly. So as quick as they can get them done, that's how quick we get loaded makes sense. So I'm pretty sure I should get loaded. What is it? It's 8.30 now. I should get loaded with the next couple of hours for sure. I hope so. Cause then I got an hour and a half back to the truck stop yet. And I don't want to be here all night, really. But it is what it is, and what can I do? I don't want to be here all night, but do I have a choice? No, I don't have any choice. I got all these shadows all over the place here. You can see the camera and the shadow them. That's sort of very unprofessional, very unprofessional. Holly would be, would be very, very displeased with me. And that's good. It's not supposed to be Hollywood. This is supposed to be real. Right, Diesel? Real.  Like the people in Hollywood, it's like, they're like a special kind of weird. Not in their shows. Like they're phenomenal actors, but in real life they're just like, you just want to, if I ever met one, a lot of people go crazy if they meet their favorite celebrity. I would just want to have a sit down with them and be like, what happened? How could you be such an amazing actor and turn out like this in real life? Right? What happened? This isn't Hollywood, this is real. What you see is what you get. And it's 10 o'clock and we're on our way. Not too bad. What did I get there at seven? Three hours? That's not too bad. My appointment was for 1 a.m. and I'm leaving there at 10 p.m. So I'll take it. So we're heavy. We're sitting at just under 80,000 pounds, probably about 78,000 pounds. We're gonna scale ourselves at the Irving on the way past there at the Cats scale and just make sure that we're not overweight or anything. And I'll talk to you when we get there. Here we go, everybody! We gotta get ourselves scaled. I still don't know how heavy I am because they didn't have scales at the yard where they load us. And honestly, it kind of bothers me when... 200 meters, turn right on. Frederickton Road, Highway 112 and then. Approaching destination on the left side, 130 meters. Yeah, yeah, Karen, calm yourself. It bothers me like they know that they're loading freight that goes right up to the legal limit, but they don't provide a scale to make sure that they don't go over the legal limit. Then if I get a ticket, it's my ticket, not theirs. So I've gotta go all the way to the nearest Cats scale which is down here in Monkdon or wherever it be, whichever, you know, this happens in other places too. And if I'm overweight, I gotta go all the way back to the shipper and tell them to take a pow-wow. Approaching destination in 100 meters on the left side. I'm gonna cross the border until I'm scaled because once I cross the border, I can't come back. That's how it works. Once the... You have arrived at your destination on the left side. Big stop, circle came number 2016. Are you done now? Geez, Karen, I know you wanna be part of the vlog, but come on. But yeah, once I cross the border into the US, the freight can't cross back. They won't clear it to go back. So if it's overweight, it's overweight. That's why you gotta scale up before you cross the border. That's what we're gonna do right now. Certified scales. So that if they're wrong, they'll pay my ticket for me. Let's talk to the good people in the box here. One second. I'm gonna push a little button here. Magic box. Hello. Cotton tub. First weight, yeah. First weight. First weight, pounds. Pounds. Get it in gear here. You guys just yelling at me through the speaker. Hey babe, put under the scale. I can hear you, bud. I can hear you. Well, she's gonna yell at me over here too. So now you gotta talk to him over here. Now I just gotta wait for him to confirm that he has my weight. Might have to push the button again. I'm gonna push the button again. Thank you. Sounded just yelling at me. I'm gonna find a parking spot, Harold, go inside and get our scale ticket, shall we? One second here. Need your help to get that off. Thank you. All right. We walked the weasel. Time to get this bed ready for the king. See, this is the lord right here. Where'd your light go, Diesel? What happened to your light? One second. There you go, the lord. The king hierarchy of this truck. Just so you know. Let's put you up here. I gotta do a lot of cleaning up tomorrow. I have a whole idea of what I want this truck to look like tomorrow yet. Before I get going, I'm gonna send in my paperwork yet. Oh boy, I've got work to do. But first, I'm in the maritime. So I have to close my curtains so that everybody knows I'm sleeping. Because it's pretty late by the time we got here. It's after midnight now. So I'm gonna be sleeping into the day tomorrow. If you don't got the curtains pulled, people assume you're awake. Pull the curtains. For some reason, these curtains are not that easy to pull around here. I don't understand why they would make them this way, but I don't understand a lot of things in this world, apparently. And I'm not always right, okay? I have my opinions and I'm not always right. That's why I always say, double check everything I tell you, all the facts and stuff I tell you. Double check them, you know? Just cause Trucker Josh says it's true, doesn't mean it's true. I mean, there's a very highly probable chance that it is true if I say, if Trucker Josh says it's true, but. I'm not a trainer, okay? That's the biggest thing I wanna get across to my audience. I'm not a trainer. I don't wanna be a trainer. I am just an entertainer. Okay, I'm an entertainer on the internet. I show you how my life goes on the road as a truck driver from Canada, who travels all over Canada in the United States. I don't really have any desire to be a trainer or a teacher. Okay, so when I give you advice, I'm not trying to train you. I'm not trying to teach you how to do things or what's the best way to do things. Sometimes I'll show you the way that, the best way that I've found to do things, but I'm not a trainer, okay? I'm not a trainer. I'm an entertainer. There's a difference. All I wanna do is meet up with you here on my YouTube channel every day and entertain you. I don't wanna be responsible for teaching you all the ins and outs and what's best and what's not. I find it to be much more fun just to hang out with you and share my experiences that way. What is wrong with these curtains? Seriously? Why they gotta be so difficult? Ah! I guess I should turn my GPS off. I don't need Karen anymore.  Nobody wants to hear it from you. Okay, well, I appreciate you hanging out with me today. I appreciate you hanging out with me every day. And let me know what you think down below in the comments. 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A fiery horse with a speed of light, a cloud of dust, and a hearty Hio Silver, the Lone Ranger. With his faithful Indian companion, Tato, the daring and resourceful masked rider of the planes led the fight for law and order in the early western United States. Nowhere in the pages of history can one find a greater champion of justice. Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear. From out of the past come the thundering hoofbeats of the great horse Silver. The Lone Ranger rides again. Come on Silver, let's go be followed by old Silver. In the town of Choctaw Pass, the Lone Ranger was known only as a mysterious masked man who had ridden into town and turned Moose Mitchell, a notorious killer over to the sheriff. With a prisoner, the masked man had handed over an envelope containing photographs and other evidence that was certain to result in a verdict of guilty when Mitchell went on trial. The day of the trial dawned bright and clear, and the small courthouse was crowded. It was a big day in the life of the shrewd, conniving lawyer Rodney Fox. Hi there Mr. Fox. I hear you're aiming to defend the killer. I am counsel for the defense, and please bear in mind that my client is an innocent man until he's proved guilty. Hi Fox. I guess this is the day you break your record of never having lost a case. Bad is for the jury to decide. They tell me it's an open and shut case against Moose Mitchell. Sure it is. The sheriff's got evidence enough to hang him a dozen times over. Milly hearsay gentlemen, milly hearsay. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll take my place. I think the court is about to open. Say Pete, just what is the evidence against the prisoner? Have you heard? They tell me that masked man had photographs of footprints right outside the bank where the murder took place. Photographs? You mean pictures made with one of them new fango black boxes? Just so. And there's affidavits to prove them footprints was made at the time of the robbery and that the footprints match the prisoner's boots. There's other evidence too. Whoever that masked man is, he sure did a complete job of sending Moose to the gallows. I don't know. Foxy Fox is too blame-covenant of winning. I wonder if he's got something up his sleeve. Fox? I don't see what he can have up his sleeve in this case. Me neither, but he's a shrewd critter. Hey Pete, look over there at the sheriff and prosecute our lawton. They're acting squirmy. They sure don't look anywhere as confident as I did yesterday. The court is hereby open for the case of the people versus Moose Mitchell. Judge Wilkins presiding. We're all set to go, Judge Wilkins. Mitchell's an ugly-looking coot, isn't he? Sure is. Judge, I've got to speak to you before you start things. Take it easy, Lawton. Go back to your place. You too, Sheriff. But, Judge, you better listen to the prosecutor. The evidence is gone. What? It was stolen from the sheriff's office. Someone broke in and stole it last night. Sheriff, is that right? Yes, that's right, Judge. Someone forced a lock on the door and busted into my desk and cleared it out. Why wasn't I told about this before? We just found it out a few minutes ago. Oh, fine thing. Your Honor, I couldn't help overhearing this little discussion around the bench. You don't miss much, do you, Fox? No, indeed. Sheriff, is it true that you have no evidence against my client? Well, we did have. But you lost it, eh? People stole it. Judge, we still have a witness to testify for the prosecution. Milt Cummings. One witness. Are you ready to carry on the prosecution with a testimony of a single witness? Judge, I... I would like an adjournment of a few days or a week to, uh, to prepare my case. Your Honor, I... Be quiet, Fox. This court has adjourned till one week from the day. Thank you. Now, Sheriff, take the prisoner back to his cell. See that you don't lose him. Your Honor, may I have a word with my client before he's removed from the court room? Well, go ahead and talk to Mitchell. We'll make it short. Now, see here, Fox. You told me I'd walk out of here free-man. Just be patient, Mitchell. They're not turning me loose. They're just postponing the trial until next week. My own worry. They'll hear that witness to testify against me. And maybe by next week, the evidence will turn up. That evidence won't turn up anywhere at any time. It's burned. Well, just the same milk Cummins can tell plenty about me. He won't talk. I'll take care of him tonight. And I'll guarantee he won't testify against you.  Let me handle milk. It was after dark when the Lone Ranger and Tonto camped at the edge of Choctaw Pass. Tonto went into town alone to learn the outcome of Moose Mitchell's trial. He returned to camp with the astonishing news that the evidence had been stolen and the trial postponed. Are you sure of that, Tonto? Ah, me plenty sure. Someone steal evidence from Sheriff's office. Another trick of Rodney Fox. Trial next week instead. Yeah, she told me. There'd be just one witness to appear against Mitchell. Milk Cummings. That's right. I'm going to call him right now. Is that it, there, Silver? But Mitchell's conviction, depending on Milk's testimony, we must make sure that testimony is heard in court. Easy, steady. Milk Cummings lived alone in a small one-room building. He was ill of ease in the presence of his well-dressed visitor, the suave attorney Rodney Fox. Well, there you have it, Milk. You're going to say you were mistaken about Moose Mitchell and can't identify him. That's not true, Fox. I saw him rob the bank and shoot Mr. Moser. Milk, I'll go a long way to get him acquitted.  Not until convicted. You probably can tell who stole the evidence. I have a good memory. I can remember just what happened five years ago. No, wait, wait, Fox. How would you like to face the hang? No, you couldn't prove it. Yes, I can. And there's no statute of limitations on murder. If you testify against Mitchell, I'll see you hang. Oh, Fox, if that's the way it is, I can't stop you. But I've got to give my testimony. Now, Milk, what's the use of being stubborn? What's the good of it? Do you think the folks around here are going to thank you for testifying? I've got to do it. Mitchell's bad all through. I'll make him promise to leave the state. Then we'll be saved all the trouble of holding him in jail or hanging. So he can rob and steal from folks somewhere else? No, nothing to do with it. You went straight after you killed a man. Give Moose a chance to do the same. He's had too many chances. Do you think you're the only killer that's got a right to live? No, it's different in my case, Fox. You know, blame well it's different.  Who's that? Finish it, Mr. Fox. You'll do what? What's this to you? Who's this mask man? Milch, you went into the law here as you have pals who wear masks. I don't know him. Milch never saw me before. Who are you? I'm particularly interested in seeing Moose Mitchell get what's coming to him. I'm the man who gathered the evidence that's been stolen. You? What are you doing here? When I heard about this afternoon's trial, I decided to call on the state's key witness. I guess you had the same idea, Fox. Well, what are you going to do now? Go and call on the sheriff? Wearing a mask? I'm going to take Milch where you can't reach him. You're taking me nowhere. Come on, Milch. Get away from him. Fox, don't get in my way. I'll get in your way. Oh, great. I warned you, Fox. Are you ready, Milch? Well, where do you figure I'm taking me? To a camp where a fox can't find you. Why? I want to talk to you without being disturbed. Easy. All right, Milch. Just a mouth. What a horse. Tato, this is Milch Cummings. Oh, what happened? Bobby, Fox is afraid to let Milch testify in court. Look, mister... Milch, I heard some of your conversation with Fox. Can he hang you? He... Well, even if he could, it wouldn't stop me from having my say in court. The man Moose killed was my friend. Nothing will stop me from giving my testimony. A bullet would stop you. Huh? And Fox might use one if he has to. What are you getting at? You're going to stay here in this camp until the trial. Well, uh... You'll tell us what Fox has on you. Perhaps we can help him. Oh, you can't help me. Neither can anyone else. I'm a murderer. I'm a man who thought he could get away with murder. I've thought so for these past five years. Now I see it can't be done. When Milch was not seen in town for the next few days, it became rumored that he had run away rather than appear to testify at Mitchell's trial. There were many bets on the outcome of that trial, and the odds in favor of the prisoner increased with each passing day. Hey, uh, Barkey, you hold the stakes. Right. I tell you, boys, Fox is looking more confident every day. Do you think Milch will show up for the trial? I don't know. Prosecutor Lawton is looking downright worried. It wouldn't surprise me if Fox knew more than he'll tell about their stolen evidence. Hey, boys, don't clutter up the bar unless you buy drinks. My money's all gone into bets. Uh, Barkey, give me a small beer on credit. They don't come that small. Now shove on. The main trouble with being broke is that I can't raise an uninsult. Prosecutor Lawton, just come in. Maybe you could borrow some cash from him. Not a chance. He's going over to Judge Wilkins' tape. Judge Wilkins, they told me I'd find you here in the cafe. Hello, Lawton. How's your case coming? Judge, I've got to ask a favor of you. A favor? Just one minute, Lawton. I'll tolerate no collusion between the prosecutor and the judge. Nonsense, Fox. I merely want to ask for a further postponement of the trial. A further postponement? What's the matter, Lawton? Judge, you know how the whole case against Mitchell depends on one witness. Yes, I know. I can't find that witness. I've heard something about Mills disappears. Without him, I won't have a case. You have two days for the trial. I... I'm afraid a couple of days won't be enough time. I object any further delay. My client is entirely his day in court. You can't keep him in jail indefinitely. Fox, you know very well your client should hang. Every man is innocent until he's proved guilty. Judge, don't you...? Lawton, here's the situation. I'm speaking unofficially. Moose Mitchell is a murderer, a thief, and every inch is skunk. My personal opinion, he should have been strung up a long time ago. Judge Wilkins, you can't say those things about my client.  I said I was speaking unofficial. Now I'm going to speak officially. Yes? Moose Mitchell is a citizen of this country, and as such, he's entitled to a fair and impartial trial before a jury of his peers. He's got a right to his day in court. We can't hold him indefinitely without bringing him to trial. Besides that, it costs money to feed a prisoner. Day of the trial has been set and it's got to stand. But, Judge, the whole case against him hangs on the testimony of one man. Then produce that man in court. I've got to find him. If you'd just give me more time. No, I'm sorry, Lawton.  I'm happy to know my client will get a fair and impartial trial. You'll get that. I contend that Moose Mitchell is just a poor, unfortunate individual against whom fate has always stacked the cards. Ah, hogwash.  What? You'll get his trial and schedule. If Lawton can't make a case against him, you'll walk out a court of free man and live to kill some more. The curtain falls on the first act of our lone ranger story. Before the next exciting scenes, please permit us to pause for just a few moments to continue our story. It was two days before Moose Mitchell's trial when the attorney Rodney Fox went to the jail to call on the prisoner. He met the sheriff in the outer room. I'll unlock that door for you, Mr. Frog. Thanks, sir. Any word of milk coming? I did. I understand the prosecutor has a lot of men out looking for him. He sure has. Step right into the cell, Mr. Frog. I'll have to lock in while you talk to the prisoner. That's all right, sir. Just stay away from the door. Don't try to hear the confidential talk between a counsel and a client. What's new? Lawton wanted another postponement, but I persuaded the judge not to grant it. He'll be tried the day after tomorrow. No word of milk coming? No. Oh, you'd better find him, make sure he don't talk in court. If he tells what he knows about me, I'll hang. He's disappeared. No word of him since that masked man slugged you and made off with him. No? Yeah, that cusset masked man. But it hadn't been for him. I'd have never been captured in the first place.  Does anyone else know the masked man got milked? No, no one. He's holed him someplace, Fox. He'll have him at court in my trial. You see if he don't. I'm not worried. I can discredit anything milk coming says. I can prove he's a killer. Well, get this straight, Fox. You better make sure I go free. Don't threaten me, Moose. I'm just telling you that's all.  But you don't get a thin dime if I'm convicted. I know that. Now, what's more, if the case goes against me, I'll tell a few things about you. Among other things, I let the judge know it was you that stole the stuff from the sheriff's office. Not so loud, you chuck head-hand. That's not all. So you better see that I go free. The Lone Ranger wearing a disguise had spent the day in town to make sure the trial would be held on schedule whether or not milk comings was found. It was after dark when he removed the disguise, replaced the mask, and started back to his well-concealed camp in the woods. The milk comings was asleep. The masked man and Tonto unsaddled the big white stallion and took seats near the small campfire without waking the prisoner. Did you learn anything from milk, Tonto? No. Nothing new. And what did you learn? A child will take place on schedule. That's good. Milk will be there to tell his story. But Tonto, after he tells it, Fox is going to turn on him with everything he's got. That's right. Milk may have made a mistake once in his life. He doesn't deserve what Fox will give him. He'll only tell us what Fox is holding over his head. He might trust us that far. He's afraid of giving us the same hold over him that Fox has. Sleeping on easily. He might have several times asleep. Worried. Gonna get squirted. Let him milk. Gonna get squirted. Wait, Tonto.  Did you hear that? Slim Beckett. Slim Beckett. Milk, wake up, Milk. Wake up and listen to me. What's the matter? What about Slim Beckett? Yes, what about him? I don't know anything about him. Where'd you get that name? Give me the truth, Melt. You talked to Fox. You talked about Slim Beckett in your sleep. Is he the man you killed? I know something about it. I want to know the rest. Nothing more. I killed Slim Beckett. Now, you know as much as Fox. You killed him? May as well admit it. It'll come out anyway. Can Fox prove you killed Beckett? Yes, yes. He can prove it all right. He's got a dying statement from Beckett. He's held it all these years. Give me a hand. I've got to saddle up and ride fast. What's up, mister? Just one full day before the trial. I can find what I want. You'll have nothing to worry about from lawyer Fox. Here's a saddle cinch up. Where are you going? Amaranthi County. You stay here until the day of the trial. You go to court and tell your story. Put Moose Mitchell where he belongs. Don't be afraid of anything Rodney Fox can say or do. Is Silver ready now? Good enough, easy big fella. Come on, Silver! The lone ranger rode through the remainder of the night and most of the following day, pausing only long enough to rest and water the powerful horse Silver. It was sunset when he finally rained up on Amaranthi. A man wearing a sheriff's badge rushed out of the office with a gun prawn. Hold on there. I got you covered. Don't reach for a gun.  I want to talk to you. About what? A man who was killed. His name was Slim Beckett. The following morning found the courtroom jam just as it had been on the previous occasion. The same people were in court and they said practically the same things to lawyer Rodney Fox. Hi there, Mr. Fox. I hear you're aiming to defend the killer. I am counsel for the defense. Please bear in mind that my client is an innocent man until he's proved gilly. He'll excuse me. I'll take my place. I think the court's about to open. Fox is just as confident as ever. Only more so. He should be. Without milk coming there's not a bit of evidence against Moose. It sure riles me to think of that killer being turned loose. Me too. Look at that grin on his face. Yeah. I guess Fox must have told him Lawton couldn't locate Milk Cummins. You sure Milk won't turn up at the last minute, Fox? Can't be sure of anything, Moose, but don't you worry. Even if Milk does show up I've got what it'll take to fix him. Well, you better have. If Lawton had anything against you he wouldn't look so worried. You're the sheriff. Well, we'll make a whole trial right now, I bet, can't we? You did let me down, Sheriff. You let me down twice. I did the best I could, love. I had every available deputy scar in this country and all sides and they couldn't find Heidner here at Milk Cummins. You suppose Fox did away with him. How do I know? I wouldn't put it past him. But there's no use charging him with anything. You can't prove. Here comes the clerk. He won't last long. The court is hereby open for the case of the people versus Moose Mitchell, Judge Wilkins presiding. We're all set to go, Judge Wilkins. It's Milk, Milk Cummins. Sheriff, Sheriff, get that man. That's my witness. We want you fired! I want a recess. Judge Geronimo, I want a recess for ten minutes. Right down around clear the courts. Geronimo, may I speak to you for a minute? What is it, Fox? In view of the fact that the state seems to have an unexpected witness, I'd like to have a few minutes alone with the state's attorney. I think I can save the court a lot of time. And I'd like a few minutes alone with Milk Cummins. Just a minute now. What a time. I too would like a few words with Cummins. He's not your witness. Nevertheless, I want to talk to him. Quiet! I'm called to recess right now. I want to see you all here in my office. Straighten this out. Go on in there, Milch. This is my trial. You keep stiller. I'll take you back to the jail the way you are. Go on. Step right into the judge's office. Yes. After you, Judge. Thanks. All right.  The chair's been looking all over for you. I dropped out of sight for a while. That's all. You're going to testify against Moose Mitchell, aren't you? I sure am. I've got things against him. It'll clinch the case. Good. Now just a minute, Milch. I didn't want to make any trouble for you. I feel you've been an honest citizen for the past few years, and I hope to let you stay that way. What are you talking about, Fox? Your honor, my first duty is to my clients. What's that got to do with it? If Milch Cummins takes the witness stand, I shall have to discredit him as a witness against Moose. Discredit him? You can't do it. Oh, yes, I can, Lawton. Can I, Milch? Milch, what's the matter with you? Mr. Lawton, I'm afraid Fox can do what he says. But that won't affect what I have to say against Mitchell, will it? I... I don't know. Of course it will. The jury will hardly believe a murderer. What's that? A murderer. Yes. I admit it, Lawton. I killed a man once. I have proof of it right here in my pocket. This is the statement of a dying man named Slim Beck. He names Milch Cummins as the one who shot him. It was self-defense. But I suppose it's too late to try and explain. She'd have known I couldn't get away with it. Hey, what's going on out in the courtroom? Sounds like some sort of excitement. Hey, there's a job I can do. Chef! Come on, Mitchell. I'm keeping you hand. Come to me.  Close that door. What's going on out there, Chef? The bashman just came in. He had the chef of Amaranthic County with him. They gave me a couple of papers and said you should see him right away. Well, he promised to help me. Let me see those papers. The bill offering a reward for the captured dead or alive of a critter named Slim Beckett. Slim Beckett? That's the man I killed. I didn't know he was wanted.   You'll get you a say in open court. If Beckett was wanted by the law, then Fox can't discredit you. Instead of that, he'll make you a hero on the stand. How about that, Fox? You remember what I told you, Fox? If I don't go free, I talk. I'll tell you you haven't got a chance in a million of going free. Listen to this. Fox, here's something for you to explain. You laid claim to the reward for killing Beckett. He did. That reward was paid to you on May 10th. This is a sworn statement from the clerk at Amaranthic. No wonder you told me to keep quiet. You didn't want me to mention killing Beckett. If I had, someone would have said you got the reward.  It looks like you all milked cum in some money, huh, Fox? We'll deal with you after we finish with Moose Mitchell. You finish with me and you can finish with Fox, too.  He stole that evidence from your office sheriff. Moose? Yeah, he's done it all right. Hey, Ginger, we can put Fox himself on trial. Hey, you bet you can. He gummed up my defense. Well, let him hang with me. The window. Stop and get him. The mask man. He's outside the window. Great day. I like his shot. He's shot you. Now you can see what I learned. When that mask man's out to get you, you're through. He's a Lone Ranger. This is a feature of the Lone Ranger Incorporated. Created and produced by George W. Trenville and directed by Charles D. Livingston. Tonight's story was written by Fran Stryker. The part of the Lone Ranger is played by Brace Beamer.


Hello everyone this is Amit Dan of AmitDan.com. Today I'll have another episode of Rewards Points, Tips and Tricks video and I'll talk about how McDonald's Rewards works and how you can maximize your redemptions. If this is your first time, I'll be visiting. Thank you for your support. On this channel I'm always trying new and different ideas. If you're into thinking outside the box, this is the channel to subscribe. If you're only looking for Rewards, Tips and Tricks videos, there will be links in the description box below. Today I'll talk about how my McDonald's Rewards works and how you can collect and redeem points. I have some notes right here which I'll go over one by one. Let's start with the basics. My McDonald's Rewards started in November 2021. This is a fairly new program. Before that, there used to be a program where you had to punch your cup or the sticker and then you would collect like you know those each sticker each time you buy coffee. So those are gone and this is more modern and everything is done via app. So the point or the program starts with 5000 bonus points. So whenever you're making your first purchase after installing the app and using the app, you are rewarded 5000 bonus right away. And then after that for each dollar, you'd earn 100 points. So that's the basics of how you earn. Then from time to time McDonald's would run bonus points events. So you know they would give you like a double or triple the points depending on when or what type of promotions they're running. And one thing to note that McDonald's points do expire after six months. Although they say after six months but when I open my points then it looks like it's actually it has more expiration date than six months but you know it's the best idea would be to check on your app. And another thing that you know whenever you're opening your McDonald's apps you're going to always see like you know deals different type of deals for example discounted meal or coffee or tea. So that's something to remember. Now let's move on to how to collect McDonald's points. The first thing you need to do you have to install the app from your phone's play or app store and then you have to register and then once you do that each time you order something at McDonald's you have to scan the app to collect points and your points will show up will appear on the app. Just one thing to remember here that delivery orders or items do not earn any points. Now let's talk about how to redeem McDonald's points. So in order to redeem you have to open the app and the choose rewards tab and then it's going to take you to the section where you can earn or you can redeem the app points. So for example let me just show you how it works. So here when you open the McDonald's apps on your phone then you're going to see the tab reverse which is right here. So if you click on it then it's going to show you like in your points history and how many points you have and then it's going to show you my rewards which is right here.  So for example redeem for 2000 points and redeem for 4000 points. So it's going to show you all the tiers which is available or you can redeem points for. So that's how you can redeem points. Now McDonald's has five different tiers which is from 2000 to 1400 points and not all items are available on the reverse program. For example you cannot have some items when you're redeeming points. For example Filet or Milkshake or McGriddles. There could be more items but these are the three I found. So the tiers are there five different tiers. The first tier is tier one which is up to 2000 points and the second tier or I'm sorry 2000 points and the second tier is 4000 points and the tier three is 6000. The four is 10000 and five is 14000. Delivery orders cannot be redeemed which I mentioned before. That delivery orders cannot be earned points but at the same time delivery orders cannot be redeemed by points. So that's something to remember. Now I'm just going to show you what items are available under each tier. So for example you can see here that if you have 2000 points which is the tier one then you can choose to redeem coffee, tea, hash brown, vanilla, coke, cone and donuts. Then for 4000 points you have fries, sausage, cheeseburger, latte, any size. 6000 points you have Mac double, Mac muffin, junior chicken and this Mac sausage and for 10,000 points you have a Big Mac, Mac muffin, extra value meal, six piece chicken, Mac nuggets and happy meal and then the last one is the 14,000 points. Here you have like you know the meal for example a Big Mac, Mac chicken meal, quarter pounder meal. Now I'm going to tell you how to get the best value for your points when you are redeeming for McDonald's. So the thing to remember that it looks like that tier one which is the lowest tier right here. It gives you the best value for your points. So what it means that you know if you are redeeming for this tier you're going to get more value per point than any other tiers and tier five offers the least value. So if you just like you know kind of hoard your points and try to look for tier five which is the 10,000 points to redeem for like you know happy meal or six big piece Mac nuggets and Big Meal, Big Mac or you know a quarter pounder which are under 14,000. So this like you know the last one actually I'm sorry I think I told you this but the last tier is this.  So the best thing would be to get tier one. So whenever you get like you know some points if you redeem for the items from tier one that's how you're going to just get the best value for your points. Now I checked some items which items would give you best value. So for example for from tier one you can redeem for tea, coffee, hash brown and these usually give you the best value and for example also you can redeem for iced coffee and it looks like right now iced coffee has the maximum value based on the price of iced coffee. So to maximize your you know redemption value for your points just go with the tier one and it looks like iced coffee gives the best value. Now one thing to remember that any size coffee you can redeem from whenever you're redeeming something. So a small, medium, large so the best deal you'd get if you are redeeming for the large size because you know whether you are redeeming large or small or medium is still you're going to lose 2000 points. So you can get the maximum value when you're redeeming for the large size and from tier two it looks like the latte and fries they have the best value although if you are going for other items you're going to lose a value for your points and tier five is not recommended or any higher tiers you're going to lose a value but even let's say even still you want to redeem something from tier five then it seems like the quarter pounder is giving you more value than Big Mac or a chicken McNugget or chicken combo so that's something to remember. Now this is what I mentioned already always get the large size because you know you're using same points regardless of what size you are redeeming so it's best to get the large size and then looks like these items have the order value in terms of when you're redeeming your points so try not to redeem for these which are junior chicken, Macdouble and this is value meal so these are the worst of everything you're going to get much lower value for your points when you are redeeming for these so these are the basics of McDonald's my McDonald's rewards and how it works and if you are interested then you can find more information just going to the McDonald's website and they have like you know they have answered most of the questions you might have but I went through the basics today and hopefully this is going to help you to understand and how to redeem or how to collect McDonald's points so that's all for today thank you for watching this video there will be more videos coming up so I'll see you shortly thank you


I am here to explain you about slope and deflection of cantilever beam with gradually varying load by double integration method. So, today's learning outcome is at the end of the session student will be able to understand and find the slope and deflection of cantilever beam with uniformly varying load for the following condition when uniformly varying load is acting over hole span and when it is acting for a distance A from the fixed end. So, before that we will see what is the beam. A beam is a structural element that primary resist loads applied lateral to the beam axis and the mode of deflection is by bending. So, this is the beam and it is resisting the load perpendicular or lateral to it and there is the deflection of the beam or bending of the beam. So, the beams are classified according to support conditions cantilever beam simply supported beam overhanging beam fixed beam and continuous beam. So, we are dealing with the cantilever beam. So, before that again we have to see what is slope and deflection to find the slope and deflection of the cantilever. So, every beam is frequently governed by rigidity rather than its strength. Hence, the building code specifies the limit of deflection because excessive deflection of the beam not only is visually disturbing, but may also cause damage to other parts of the building. So, therefore, many building codes limits the maximum deflection of the beam. So, we have to know what is the deflection of the beam when the load is applied. So, deflection of the beam at any point on the axis of the beam is the distance between its position before and after loading. So, initially the load beam is straight before loading when load is applied it gets deflected. So, distance between initial and final after loading. So, this distance is called a deflection. So, slope of the beam at any section in a deflected beam is defined as the angle in radiance which the tangent at the section makes with original axis of the beam. So, now this is the deflected shape of the beam. So, here I have drawn a tangent line to this deflected shape and again a horizontal line which is the shows initial position of the beam. So, this angle theta is the slope of the beam. So, cantilever beam is the beam which is fixed at one end and free at the other end. So, one end is fixed whereas the other end is free. There are various methods of finding slope and deflection for cantilevers which are mentioned below that is double integration method, maculis method, moment area method. So, we will see the double integration method. So, the equations used for double integration method how it has arrived. So, when the beam is deflected in a curvature. So, it will have some center or origin that is O and it will have some radius R. So, the radius of curvature of the deflected beam is given by the Fliccure formula that is m upon i is equals to E by R. Therefore, m upon E i is equals to 1 upon R. So, we will treat this as equation A. So, for a practical beam 1 upon R is given by d 2 y by dx square equation B. So, now equating this equation A and B we get m upon E i is equals to d 2 y d 2 y by dx square. Therefore, m is equals to E i d 2 y by dx square with this is the equation 1 which are which we are going to use for double integration method. So, now we will consider a beam which is fixed at one end at A and it is free at the other end and the load is uniformly varying. So, it is an having intensity 0 at point B that is at free end and it is having the maximum load that is w per unit length at point A. So, due to this load there is again a deflection A B dash it shows the deflected shape of the beam. So, your y B is the deflection and theta B is the slope which we have to find. So, now we will consider a section at a distance x from the fixed end. So, remaining portion will be l minus x. So, now we have to take a bending moment at this section x from the free end. So, the load is this triangular part and the value here at the section of this triangle is w l into l minus x. So, for taking this triangular moment so, we have to take the load into distance from which it is acting. So, now this m x is equals to so, now as this is a triangle it is one half base into height. So, it is minus one half. So, l minus x is the base into w by l into l minus x this is this ordinate and it is acting at one third l minus x. So, after solving this we get m x is equals to minus w upon 6 l into bracket l minus x cube this is equation 2. So, now we know the bending moment and we know from equation a moment is equals to e i d 2 y by d x square.  So, now integrating this above equation we get e i d y by d x is equals to minus w upon 6 l into bracket l minus x raise to 4 upon 4 into minus 1 plus c 1 where c 1 is the constant of integration. So, we will treat this as equation number 3. So, again integrating this equation number 3 we get e i y is equals to w upon 24 into l minus x raise to 5 by 5 into minus 1 plus c 1 x plus c 2 where c 2 is again a constant of integration. So, solving we get this equation e i y is equals to minus w upon 120 l into bracket l minus x raise to 5 plus c 1 x plus c 2. So, we have to find out the constant of integration c 1 and c 2 from the boundary condition of the beam. So, now what are the boundary condition for the cantilever? So, here pause the video and try to get answer. So, as the support end is fixed the values obtained for the boundary condition are at x is equals to 0, deflection y is 0 and at x is equals to 0, slope d y by d x is also 0. Now, substituting this value in equation number 4 we get 0 is equals to minus w upon 120 l into l minus now we are replacing x by 0 raise to 5 plus c 1 into x it is 0 plus c 2. So, solving this we get c 2 is equals to w l 4 by 120. Again putting the value of x is equals to 0 and slope d y by d x is equals to 0 in equation number 3 we get 0 is equals to w upon 24 l into bracket l minus 0 raise to 4 plus c 1. So, from this we get c 1 is equals to minus w l cube by 24.  This is equation number 5 which is known as slope equation. We can find out now slope at any point on a cantilever beam by substituting the value of x and let the slope is maximum at free and it will be theta b.   Therefore, theta b is equals to minus w l cube by 24 e i that is equation 5 a. So, negative sign shows it is a anticlockwise direction.  This is equation number 6 which is known as deflection equation. So, we can find out deflection at any point on the cantilever by substituting the value of x in this above equation. So, the deflection is maximum at free and so let the deflection be y b and x is equals to l.  So, solving this we get minus w l 4 by 30 therefore, y b is equals to minus w l 4 by 30 e i that is equation number 6 a. So, this negative sign shows the deflection is downward. Now slope and deflection of uniformly varying load at a distance a from the fixed end. So, we will consider this from fixed end that distance a the load is acting over this triangular portion. So, now theta c is the slope at this point c and y c is the deflection at point c and y b is the deflection at point b. So, now as the load is acting over this portion in between a and c. So, the deflection of the beam is between a and c and the rest it remains straight. So, now using the same equation which we have derived in equation 5 a and 6 a instead of l we have to put the value of a because we are neglecting this means as there is a no bending moment in this portion. So, deflection is like this therefore, theta c is equals to w a 4 by 24 e i and y c is equals to w a 4 by 30 e i. So, now for finding the deflection at point b. So, as this is a straight line. So, theta c is equals to theta b that is w a 4 by 24 e i, but for y b we are have to add y c plus theta c into bracket l minus a because this is theta c and we have to solve this by triangular method.  So, we have replaced this theta c with w a 4 upon 24 e i. So, these are the references which I have referred. Thank you.


Prophet Shepard Boucheri and Pastor Al-Flaco's churches could be banned in South Africa. These are the words of Mzansi people who are calling for the closure of all prophetic churches belonging to foreign pastors in the country. This implies that if the angry believer's protest is honored, Prophet Shepard Boucheri from Malawi, founder of Enlightened Christian Gathering Church, ECG, and Pastor Al-Flaco of From Congo, founder of Alleluia Ministries International, AMI, among other high-profile prophetic churches founded by foreigners, will have to kiss goodbye to this greener pasture nation. The online protesters have started an online petition on a website known as Petitions24.com which is promoted by its users. They say it's in support of Sheryl Zandi and many more victims of the foreign prophetic churches based in South Africa. As the citizens of South Africa, we therefore stand together in one voice requesting our government to please close down all these foreign prophetic churches based in South Africa with immediate effect to avoid more victimization of our citizens whether sexually, financially, emotionally, or otherwise in the name of miracles. We request that our government regulate our churches, monitor and evaluate their activities. We believe that they can perform miracles well in their countries and groom their girls as well contribute positively to the growth of their economies. The petition was launched on October 17 and had already gathered over 200 signatures by 11 o'clock on October 18.