like can't be operating at this different level and be thankful and grateful because I found Charlie Ward like in the very beginning, in the very beginning. And I just went, oh my God, look at this man. And what he was saying and I'm going like, oh my God. And my daughter had said to me many, many years ago about how our birth certificates are owned and how these people up in Venice, right, are trading us on the stock exchange. And I went, what? What?  Yeah, yeah. It's unbelievable. It's like the more you see, you can't unsee it. Once you- It can't unsee. It can't unsee. No, it can't unsee. No, unbelievable what we've been able to do to our brains. Well, everybody, welcome to a awesome, incredibly, I'm so honored, special edition of Esoteric Atlanta. I have one of my favorite human beings in the whole world here to bring to you today, to Mara down in Australia. It's early in Atlanta, it's late for her in Australia and I am so honored. This beautiful lady helped me so much get through the struggles starting last year, almost actually over a year, we've been in this mess globally. And I was just telling her before we started, I hope I don't get emotional because the things that you say are so impactful. You have such a way of saying things that just help people get through this. And as we were just saying, all of us on this side of the playing field really need each other and really needed to support each other because we're the ones trying to bring the truth and trying to help other people. As our favorite military back channel says, where we go won, we go all. So we all have to stick together. And I'm so excited to have Tamara here. So let's just get started. So is there anything you wanna tell my audience before we get started about yourself? I just wanna say hello gorgeous girl.  I rang my girls cause I've got all of my team, you know? And it's like, and they have been amazing because through lockdown and everything else, we called ourselves the rabbits because we're down the rabbit hole. And we actually had a rabbit dinner. So one of the girls bought us rabbit ears. So we all sort of sat in this restaurant with rabbit ears on.  But it's been such an amazing, amazing trip. And like, and the same as you, like I got connected to Charlie Ward, like right back in the beginning. And I just go, God bless that man because he gave me and like an all of my group just the most wonderful, centered, grounded feeling of we're gonna be okay. Yeah, we're going to be okay. And like, and even I was watching something tonight that had Charlie with Mel, with, what's his name? Rod Regus. And yeah, yeah, yeah. And Simon Parks, yeah. But it's like, there's all the talking going on. And Charlie just sat there and Charlie just said, they said, well, you know, like, what do you think he goes? We're just experiencing and watching the most wonderful pantomime. And this is what I keep on saying to people, you know? And like gorgeous, gorgeous Mel Kay is going, and this is going on, and that's going on. And do you believe this and do you believe that? And Charlie just goes, and we're just doing this wonderful pantomime, you know, and it keeps on bringing it back to, this is all being staged to wake people up. It's all being staged to wake people up. Yeah? And I said to, you know, some of the girls in my group because they went through a very, very challenging time because they tried to wake people up. And I said to them, listen, all right, you're listening to me, are you listening?  And they went, what?  I said, just be, just be, you've got the awareness, you've got the energy of the awareness. And I said, and those who want to know will be attracted to you because of your awareness, but they'll also be attracted to you because you'll put things out on your social media that are like, I repose people and I go, hello in capital letters, six exclamation marks, or I go, what the? And six question marks or OMG for exclamation. So I am saying nothing. That's what I do. And it's actually, it invites people in. So gradually, gradually, gradually, people around me that read my posts, gradually they're waking up.  Right. Because as I say to the girls, I go, they will back. They will back, you will not get the response that you are actually wanting. And so they're like, oh, I've lost my friends, I've lost this, I've lost that, I've got that. And I go, yeah, okay. And I go, well, like, what about me? I put in, I put for Australia MAGA. And I got a response from some people and they go, you're not a Trump supporter, are you? And I go, why? Why are you asking me? Well, MAGA, I go, yeah, make Australia great again. And they went, oh, well, I would suggest that you don't use anything that comes out of that man's mouth. Because people are going to get the wrong impression and think that you support him, you're behind him, whatever. And I go, whatever it is that I do, whoever it is that I support, it's none of your business. And then what did I do? Delete. Just block them. Just going through and just going through and just blocking. Because what I've been teaching like for the past 30 years in my Born to Be Free seminar, oh, on the 28th of March, I present in my Born to Be Free seminar for the first time in 12 months. Oh my God, we had the best time, the best time. The best time. And I stood there and I said, right, I said, I'm not going to get into a whole lot of different things with you all.  Wake up. Don't think that the Victorian government, the Australian government, people that are running huge big organisations, drug companies, et cetera, are concerned about you. No, they're not at all. I said, they don't care about you at all. And I said, and it's been really great for me because I have stopped listening to the news and I have stopped reading newspapers. And I said, so I said my team, I said my team at the back, they all know about something that I say in board to be free and I'm going to share that right now with all of your viewers, oh, high viewers. It's just a very, very simply, cancel, cancel. So it's like when you hear a negative because you're out there in the world, you'll hear people saying certain things, yeah?  And if I've, because like I'm watching television but I'm watching like home renovations, you know? I just love it all this at Vancouver. I love those guys, yeah? So I watched that but there'll be like an ad that will come in or like a news blast and immediately I just sort of like, nope, nope, I just jump on to the next one. Or if something is being said, I'm just walking around the house going. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. Just lie low to yourself so that therefore I'm not hearing what is being said. In that cancel, that was one thing that you said last year with Nicholas and I've been using that when I have- Isn't it awesome? It's awesome, when I'm on the freeway, when I see somewhere, anywhere, when I'm out, you know, luckily for me, when I'm home all day doing esoteric Atlanta, I'm with like-minded people. And then when you have to step back into the matrix to just go get some bread at the store or whatever, it's just being able to not let that penetrate your vibration and keep you, because they want it here. I mean, they're putting that stuff out to bring you back down. So that cancel, I laugh and say, I'm big into yoga. I'm like, that's my mantra. Cancel. I love it. I love it. Yeah. I'm like in the house. I'm just like, I'm walking around, you know.  It's like it's a hood, isn't it? But like we were saying before, it's to be awake and then to step out and having to work, having to go out and be with like in the everyday world, has like, it's very, very interesting. But it's like, you know, like when Charlie was saying, well, you know, like we're going into this level, we're going into like this different level. And I thought, right, and this is what it is. It's like we're at the level of I call it awareness. Yeah? So I don't go, oh, are you 5D?  Right, you're either in that level of awareness or you're asleep. So to be at the level of awareness and having to go and to function in the world with those who are asleep is like, it's very difficult. It's a difficult one and it's draining. I get very, I get very tired. If I'm going, if I go out and I'm out and I'm around people, I come home, I'm exhausted, absolutely exhausted. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, same. Well, I have a question for you. So like, I'll use my awesome parents as an example. My parents are in their 60s. They are supporters of Trump because they are Republican. And we talk to them a lot about stuff and they're like half, they're half aware but there's still a lot of programming there. And like on Monday, I was at lunch with my mother and there's a sadness about her because half of the stuff with like the Biden administration she thinks is like real and that we're just doomed. Even though she's like, she knows the bad stuff going on but she can't understand that this is all, she doesn't understand why we just don't, if the good guys are in control and it's a pantomime, why don't they just go ahead and fix it? And I tried to explain, it's like waking someone up slowly, they have to show you, you can't be told the truth, you have to learn it. So what would your advice be with people, other people watching, with people in their lives that they love that are having a really hard time at this moment because they just see darkness ahead. They don't see, they haven't stepped back enough to actually see exactly what's happening. Oh, look, it's like, it's hard. It's really, really is a hard, a hard one. You know what I'm just saying to people, look, all you can do is work on yourself, get yourself being as strong as possible, as clear as possible because have a guess what? It's like, they're going to need your support. Yeah. They are going to need your support. But to try to get them, because of my big love and what I've been doing for 30 years, apart from doing my soul reading charts for 40 years, but 30 years ago, I started my Born to Be Free seminar work. And that's all about deprogramming. And somebody said to me the other day, they went, this is why you've been doing this. You have been doing this for 30 years to prepare people, to prepare them because, you know, like Born to Be Free is dealing with like clearing all of the fears and all of the negative beliefs that we take in in our formative years, birth to the age of 10, that are then reinforced as we do our journey through life. So when you're looking at somebody like your mother, who is that age, so if we take, if we go back to when she was like a little girl and what her programming was like, like, you know, it's like we've got like, with like, like, like her parents would have believed in the doctor, well, the doctor knows.  My mom's family, these are like, God, you listen to them, yeah. My grandfather was a surgeon, he was a doctor. Oh, well, there you go. And that's been hard. Like she understands that the cure that I can't say it on YouTube is not good, but that whole deconstruction of her dad was a part of this. But my grandfather, who died in the 80s on his deathbed told his colleague that he was upset about the direction that medicine was going. He could see what was happening. He could see what the farmer was doing. And so there's a lot of gray there. And it's like, I think it's that, like, well, if this is bad and that means he was bad, and it's like, no, no, not at all. The most, most people get into medicine to help, you know? It's, it's, but it's that, it's that whole, like MK ultra from the very beginning of education, that is just, and I know you made it up with last Nicholas's show, you made an example like the jug of water with 90% full of water with the human brain and the 10% we used in the 90. I mean, it was just such a great analogy of that. How, like Charlie Ward repeats things all the time. It's because that's how we learn. And that's what caused it to us. They, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like, and whatever goes in from birth to the age of 10, it does have a power of 90% and it rules and runs us. It's like an automatic pilot. Yeah. So even though consciously you'll go, I want to do this automatic pilot goes, no, sorry, we're going in this direction. Yeah. And you'll be trying to steer your aeroplane and getting it going in this direction. Cause that's where you want to go, no, no, it keeps on going back. Keeps on going back to this direction. Yeah. So like when you, like when you get that and you understand that and then D program, then, then you're free, right? You're free. And then that then allows you to be a lot more open and a lot more discerning to what other people would go. No way that is not happening at all. Right. But hold on a moment. You know, because once you, once you deal with your fears and your negative beliefs, then you've got this direct link in to like your gut feelings. And I say to people, your gut feelings is your message from God. That's God communicating with you. So if you don't get a good feeling, listen to it. Right. Listen to it because it is always spot on. And then like my clients will say to me, well, what's the difference between a fear and a gut feeling? And I go easy. A fear makes sense. A gut feeling doesn't. Yeah. Like something, something that just doesn't feel right. Yeah. Now one thing that the girl said for me to share with you was some visions that I got. Yes, please do. Please do. This is like, this is really interesting. So I did a tune in probably like in the first instance like not long into, into Charlie's. And Charlie said something about Hollywood. And I worked there. Yeah. And I was approached by the company that made Anthony Robbins that launched him. Yeah. And I went over because I've spent a lot of time in, in, in LA, in Hollywood.  So this is how all of this is going to go and this and this and this and this and this. So then it got to actually signing on the dotted line and they changed, they changed a clause in the contract. And that would have meant that I would have been out of integrity. And I said, no, I'm not signing that. Good for you. I'm not signing it. That's, that's, that's not the agreement. That's not what we agreed on. And they said, well, this is the way that it has to be. And I said, well, I'm not signing it. And they went, well, we've spent all of this time going through and putting this legal document together. And I said, yes. I said, I understand that. However, you changed that a clause. And I said, and you didn't consult me about it. Yeah. If you had have, I would have said to you, forget about it and don't even set up the, you know, the contract. And they looked at me and they said, well, what are you going to do? And I said, I'm going home to Australia. That's what I'm going to do. And they looked at me and they went, you are walking away from millions of dollars. And I said, I am walking away with my integrity intact. Yeah? Yeah. Anyway, so when Charlie was talking about Hollywood and I went, wow. So I did, I did a meditation and I tuned in and it was really bizarre. And I actually said this in a text message to a lot of the celebrities that I know over there now. And I said to them, I go, look, I did a tuning, but I'm not quite sure exactly what it is that I saw because it really doesn't make a lot of sense to me. However, I saw a lot of very wealthy people in very expensive cars and they were all dressed up to the nines and the cars were going up and dropping them off and there was a fence and it was like bars. And I said, and all of these people were lined up behind these bars and at their feet were red stones like rubies. And I said, you know, does this make any sense? And this was before I even learned about adrenochrome. Does this make sense? I'm like, yeah, did I get any answers? No, right? No answers, yeah. I said, because obviously I said it's got something to do with the red stones are like rubies so that will be something to do with wealth. And I said, and they're being put behind bars because of something that's like worth a lot of money or there's something to do with a lot of money. So that was that, yeah? So then one of the girls asked me to do a tune into Washington. Yeah, and it was like, and it was after the election. Okay, after the election. And I went, yep, cool. So I did a tune in and what I saw was a fence, like a high fence around the White House. I saw military people walking around. Then I saw a big white building with like a big dome and then in front of the building facing away from the building was a stretch limousine. And sitting in the stretch limousine with his back to the building was Donald Trump. And he was looking directly at a man that was seated like opposite him, yeah? In a stretch limo, yeah? And it was a general and I saw stars. And then all of a sudden the building behind, so the general was looking through like, through beyond Trump at this building and all of a sudden the building exploded. Just exploded. And Donald Trump was just sitting there and he just looked at the general and he just went, okay, job's done. But like not triumphant, you know, just, okay. Job's done, job's done, yeah? So that was that. Then recently, cool, this one really threw me, recently again, I'm focusing in on like Hollywood Beverly Hills all around that area, yeah? And like how a genie comes out of a bottle, yeah? It's like the devil came out from the ground and like to about like the knee, the knee area was still in the ground, was laying over the top of the land, yeah? And said, these are my people, okay? These are my people. And then I saw military, yeah, and military people were going and knocking on houses, on the doors of houses and taking people away. Then I saw a legal system like the judge, yeah? And there was this one particular, it was like that, what I'm zoomed in on was like a man that was standing and the judge was going through papers, yeah? And he's reading through the papers and somebody that was there said to the judge, right, so do we take this one away? And he said, no, no, no, this one, this one can stay because this one changed. This one chose to go along God's pathway. So that one stays, that one doesn't go.  Oh, no, I mean, that's, and that's what, I mean, is Hollywood, I mean, I know you have ties to Hollywood, I actually lived in LA for a little while, so I know that whole, and there are some deep dark stuff going on there, even though I wasn't personally exposed to it, I saw stuff around me that now. Yeah, I wasn't like, I wasn't either, but it's like I'd love to talk to Mel Kay at some point in time because I know that, you know, like Mel was, you know, strongly connected there, but I said to the thing that was really bizarre, you know, and I like in regard to always listen to your gut feeling because I'd had so many people over the years because I started going to LA back in 1987. That's how far, yeah? And I would go over and, you know, I practically lived there for a while with, you know, with one of your famous singers. But the thing is, is that they would go, oh, this person wants to have their soul reading charts done. And I'd go, oh, okay.  And they'd go, like, like, like, I'd go, no, don't want to read for them. Well, no, no, no, no. So I'd only read for certain people. Yeah. And then people here in Australia would say to me, why are you still living here? Why aren't you over there? And I'd go, what do I want to kind of live over there for? And they would, well, you could be famous. You could have your own show and that. And I'd go, what do I want to be famous for? So I'm doing my work. Yeah. And I've got family here. You know, I've got my daughter here.  You've got to be here. You've got to be here all the time. You just can't come in and out and expect for things, you know, to keep on going. You've got to be here. You've got to be here. You've got to be on call. You've got to be here. I thought, no. I was going, no, no, I don't want to live here. No, not interested. I said, I'm happy to visit. I don't. Yeah. Happy to visit, you know, like, and I've had wonderful times and met some, you know, like amazing people. And being online was on entertainment tonight a lot. Did a very interesting one. And it's fascinating because we've got, on the 6th of June, I've got the Heel Your Heart seminar happening here in Australia. And so we're just looking at the website at that particular page. And they've got a snippet on there with me being interviewed on Extra about Megan and Harry, which is very, very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Because, yeah, because the way I explain, when I look at Soul Charts, it explains to me about the soul. But as I say to people and then they talk about, well, what's our free will? I said, your free will is whether you're going to follow God's way or whether you're going to follow what my father used to say was like, if you make money, you're God. It's like, you know, it's going to take you nowhere. So if we look at that, like, fame and money is like the negative. It's going down the black hats. You know, that's the black hat path.   However, they've been given a choice. So you can be a master soul that's come on to the planet to make a huge difference and to support people with enlightenment. But if you decide that what you want to do is the money and the fame, then what that's going to do, that's going to change the whole of the energy of that soul vibration that is inside of you. And then it's like you're going to be totally like out of whack. Yep. It's fascinating. It's fascinating. That's a lot. My boyfriend studies the law of one bra that was channeled in the 80s, a blood about that that you had service to self or service to others. And if you're a higher density being that's come back to a third density role to help shift the vibration to positive but you get pulled to the negative. It feeds the negative more because you're like a prime meat. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. So that was a win. And I say to people, and I say to them, if the chart is the chart of a master soul and you go down this path down here, it's like the energy of that is a hundred fold. Doing here, the energy of that is a hundred fold. So you can be the worst. I mean, Yeah. Worse than those that come in that are of a basic soul vibration. Yeah. It's like, it's so, it's so interesting. It's so interesting. Yeah. Well, and that's what I know raw says and I know the Bible, we're at this precipice right now where there's basically like two timelines going on and each are fighting death, but we know the good is going to win because we are destined to be a positive planet. But, but we're seeing this death brawl between these two polar opposite energy forces that are equally powerful to an extent. And it's the human soul is the one that feeds it depending on where they go. Yeah. Absolutely. Did you, the guys were saying, Charlie was saying tonight, I just, I watched something and with, with Simon parts, and they were talking about, I think it's 65%. Yeah. Has to be. 65%. So 65% that have woken up as soon as we hit that, we're fine. Yeah. We're, and we're like, wouldn't they say like 6064? We're like really close to hitting that. Very, very close. Yeah. And I will, I will tell you, like we run a yoga Shala here. And like a lot of the yoga Shalas around this area are making people show their, their papers for their injection, wear masks, all that stuff. And we don't do any of that. We don't, we don't even allow masks. We won't let people wear masks to practice because it's bad for them. And we, we tell people you have a problem with that and you shouldn't be practicing with us basically. Sorry. We're not, we're just going to run it normally here like we always did. And I will tell you, it's been a struggle since we reopened before lockdown even technically ended. We just went and opened. And, but lately we're picking up more and more and more students because they're tired of having to go to these other studios where they're required to have their temperature taken. It's so invasive. So it's like, even if they're not totally awake yet, I can say, Yeah. Yeah. There's, internally, yeah, made that decision that you're done. They're done with the charade. You know, absolutely. And that's so exciting to see that because it's, it's, yeah, they're just, they don't care what we teach. They just want to come to a place where they can be treated like a normal human being and not be, have it be invaded with all this stuff. So they're starting to see the truth or the illusion, even if I don't think they realize it yet. That's what's starting, starting to happen. It's starting. Yeah. It's starting. It's starting to move, you know, which is like, which is really, really exciting. Yeah. Like I've just walked around with no mask on. Yeah. Yeah. Same. And like, and like, and nobody, nobody says anything. Yeah. Nothing. But then I've learned to do a thing which is called invisible. Yeah. So I just do this whole, yeah. And I've done it, you know, right throughout the whole of my life when I want to be invisible and I don't want anybody talking to me, I know what it is that I need to do. Yeah. But no, I would be like with, you know, no, I was going to do your temperature up here. And I go, now I've had it. I've got a, a metal plate. I've got a metal plate in here. I had it. I had a car accident. I've got a metal plate in here. So you'll have to do my temperature.  It's like, oh come on. I had that happen to me one time I walked into a shop. And without me even knowing it, the lady just shoved this. Yes. Reader. And it was so, and that's your pineal gland. Like that's such a, I know. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's what they're doing. It's like, let's attack it. Let's attack it. It's like zap that one area that's so they're trying. They're really desperately trying to cut us off from source. They're desperately trying to not allow us to feel. I don't know if many people even know, like you said, they're gut feelings anymore. Like people, especially don't, and we've been told when we follow our gut that we're crazy or on state, you know, it's like a woman's intuition in my opinion is really strong because they're women or mothers. They have to have that. So, yeah, and I've heard that with the cure that people are being kind of cut off from, from the divine source, which I'm hoping there's an antidote that, do you think that an antidote will be released once everything is flipped? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. For those that have, I think, first, the first lot of people that will get it will be people who were forced to get it. Yeah.  So, all of these young girls, 18, have all had to have it.  Yeah. Because they call them like first line, but here in Australia, it's like, we're not wearing masks anymore. Nobody's wearing masks. It's like, we're like, that's over and done with here. Right.  Mm-hmm. Are you for real? We've been told. We don't have to wear them anymore, and you're still wearing them? Yeah.  Honestly. And the breath is so vital to our spiritual life as well, at most religious... Absolutely.  I know my sister, I have a niece and a nephew who are in elementary school, and she pulled them out of their county school, public school, and put them into a private school, just because of not, she did not want them wearing a mask all day. The oxygen did not get into the brain, it's just, there's so much, and I can't get over how people cannot, don't know how to critically think anymore. They don't know how to... No, they don't, because they've been so programmed. Right. Like I said to people, it's like, how many times when you have looked at the news from when COVID, what did you see in the background was like this thing was supposed to be a COVID virus thing, you know, like, and you just got hit with it, hit with it, hit with it, hit with it, you know, like all the time.  Idiots. Idiots. That's what I do, because I see the signs of the freeway driving to get, you know, lucky you, you're now eligible to get this beautiful shot we've provided you with for a virus that has a 99.9% survival, right? Because, because it's a conspiracy now to believe that you actually have an immune system. And every time I see that now, I'm like, Nope. Nope. I'm not part of this experiment. I'm, I don't consent. I cancel you. Yes. Yeah. And it's, it's, it's just, it's, I mean, sometimes I feel sorry. And I know that God is not human and God is so loving and light and something we can't even totally comprehend because it's just so much more magnificent than what our brains can comprehend. But sometimes I think God must be sitting up there going, What? I gave you a brain for a reason. I gave you critical thinking skills for a reason. Use them, please. And even like here in Georgia, we have the Georgia guide stones three hours away from where, an hour away from where I live. Yeah. I've been there multiple times. And it's, it's an actual physical evidence. You can touch it. And I mean, you can see it, right? It's the middle of a cow field. And it's like, look at the first commandment. Why would they spend all this money to put these granite stones up in the middle of nowhere? Georgia, which somebody told me, and I have to check, but it's like 666 miles from Washington, DC. Oh my gosh. I haven't checked it yet, but that doesn't surprise me. Ted Turner apparently is, was involved with that. He's from Atlanta. His TBS studio, which is just down the block for me, has a golden owl on top of it, which is the same owl that's at Prohibion Grove, that's at Epstein Island. I know. Hey, did you, did you see the demolition of the, the mansion? Of the, no, of the dome, the dome building on Epstein Island? I saw it afterwards. Was there a, Yes. a 17? Yeah. It's like they've done, yeah, they've taken, like they've taken that down. Samped it. Yeah. It's like, yes. Yes. Do you think the truth behind number 17 will come out for people who think it's just a quack conspiracy and do you think that they'll reveal that to the public? I think they will. I think they will. But it needs to be like at a certain time. Yeah.  A wind, yes. I mean, and I just, and I, and I wrote on social media, are you for real? And then God wrote, obviously you've never been on a ship down the Suez canal when, when it's blown a gale.  Yeah.  I mean, and the fact that it drew. Yes. What a drew when it, as Charlie Ward said that's a couple of white hats being naughty. I know. Having a couple of giggles while there. And that was, and people don't realize the timing that was over Passover, which was the parting of the Red Sea, which that is the red, like we keep saying these Red Sea moments that are happening that can happen in the Galactic Federation. I believe that it's not just human beings that are in this battle, but it's every, every dimension of being. But aren't you aware that the pyramids were actually built by men? Aren't you, aren't you aren't you aware that that's how the pyramids, it's like that it's a man, it's a man made like, oh, my name. Hello. Yeah. Really? So how did they do it? Can you explain to me how they, oh, I don't know, but it's like, you know, it's and apparently they're just tombs.  They're just two tombs. It's just a fancy burial plat. That's all it is. I'll ask you too. This is my channel is the hollow earth theory with a gartha that is a kingdom that lives beneath inside of our earth. That is like lizard people, reptilian people. Look, look, do you know what, do you know what's really, really interesting? Why? I think it was back in the 80s, if not the early 90s. I read the Indian by the name of Robert Morningsky to Australia and like he was like, he was fascinating and he said, listen, this is what's going to be happening. You all of a sudden are going to be watching movies with dragons. Movies with like creatures that are half human, half animal. You are going to experience like lizard sort of like looking people. I mean, he laid it all out and he said and this is going, this is going to occur to get all of the public all over the world prepared for what's going to be exposed.  But he talked about reptilians. He talked about the grays. He talked about extraterrestrials because he was a Hopi. He's Hopi and his grandfather told him the story about when the spaceship fell from out of the sky and the grandfather and all of the leaders went to where there was this, you know, like this explosion, this accident, something, this vehicle and they found like extraterrestrials in this flying saucer. So to them, to the Hopis, it's like, that's normal. It's like, duh. That was just everyday life. Yes, but of course. And then, of course, then in came the army. Yeah. And like impacted a lot and took it away and just, you know, they were bound to silence. Yeah. They were bound to silence. You're not allowed to tell anyone. Yeah, I went down that rabbit hole with blood types as well. I'm RH-negative and the RH-negative blood type, a lot of the scientists I looked at, they called us a different species because we don't have the rhesus factor in our blood, which is the monkey, the monkey, rhesus monkey blood and it's like, well, where did this come from if this person can't even, if I were to get pregnant with an RH positive baby, what is it, as anything that my body is and I've been going down that rabbit hole like crazy and at this point I think we're all just a combination of different extraterrestrial beings, a hodge podge and there's so much that we can do that they have dumbed us down. They say we have 97% junk DNA and well, God doesn't make junk. That's right. How powerful are we? Is it that they have not allowed us to learn about ourselves and our own heritage as human beings? It's coming, it's coming because the thing is it's like and I said to someone the other day like every morning like I get up, I get into the car and I go to get my my organic almond milk latte made with organic coffee made with like in a machine that's got filtered water that's not clean chemicals but I get in my car and then I call my girlfriend and she'll answer and I'll go, so what's happening today? Where are we at? Now someone has done this and this one's talking about this, it's a really good one I'd recommend that you have a look at that one you'll enjoy that one and we have all of these conversations like every morning in regard to okay, how are we going? Where are we at? And I said to them all I said we are getting really close now beside my girlfriend Helen I go, how are you? She goes, I'm so tired I'm tired I don't even know And I say there I go, well I always thought to myself how lucky you are that you've got a husband that works and you don't have to work but quite honestly I'm looking at myself right now and going, how lucky am I that I work because I've got to keep busy so she's just like she's living this like all the time and so then she tells me like where we're actually at but I think the thing that's disturbed me the most at the moment is that how all of our like our truth is and everybody that has actually supported supported us all on this journey are being attacked but not like not attacked from people who don't believe and I'm talking about people that should know better should know better and I just and I wrote something here in Australia today or yesterday in regard to host somebody's comment about a situation here where this person was attacking Charlie Ward like who else Michael Jaco it's like hello comment are you for real? Michael Jaco you're attacking Michael Jaco and it's I mean it was just unbelievable and I just said bravo round of applause you are doing exactly what the cabal want you to do is to turn on each other you've fallen for it guys you've fallen for it yeah it's like unbelievable and it's like if we cannot stick together and support support each other through this this journey we have up until like recently when somebody that was out there that was like like supporting and giving information out turned on these other people and I'm going are you for real? and I often say to people you know when they judge yeah excuse me can you fill me in on something because I'm not quite sure when did God resign and ask for you to fill his place perfect I'm going to use that yeah yeah when did he resign and choose you out of everybody Godji must be really special that he chose you to fill his place yeah and the thing about us on this side of the board is well most I feel like there are a few of us that are bad apples obviously they've shown their colors but I think most of us are really trying to work together and help each other along and I always say with Truthers, with Charlie Ward with all the people in our community David Dublich everyone is going to get more things right than the mainstream media is the only thing right on the mainstream media is the time in the corner that's it do you know this and do all of your your followers know this you ready for this? yes so these are the companies that control 90% of the media Disney GE Comcast Warner CBS News Corp and Viocom all in our team it they are 90% control 90% of the media and what was so interesting is that their points for the day that they are given comes through the company Gannett GAWN EWT and Gannett is ruled and run by the CIA there you go I thought you liked that one that well you know it's funny I have done I've gone on Charlie's word a couple of times because we discovered that Tyler Perry studio here in Atlanta has a full functioning White House don't you love him and I saw that I saw you on that and then I said to my girls they go this gorgeous lady that was on talking about Tyler Perry with Charlie I said she's got in contact with me and wants to interview me but I mean that and that Tyler Perry it's like oh my god I was watching something last night and oh it's like I watch I'm a great one for like I watch a lot of DVDs I watch a lot and a lot to do with documentaries and it's like you can ask me anything about the Kennedys you can ask me about that DVD that DVD that I've got the whole lot and I spend my time looking at and then looking at them and again but it had CBS and have a guess what CBS's logo I looked and I went oh my god what is it the eye it's an eye yep yep absolutely and and you look at it and you go but here we are we have now become our wake and we've become a wake to all of these things and something something came up and it was in regard to I don't know where I saw this it was in regard to a young girl singer yeah and what was being shown in the background was all everything to do with the cabal and what she actually sings she is given that this is what you are going to record and this is the key that you're going to do this in and now we're going to do this video of you and this is what you're going to wear and the background is going to be this and this and this and this so so the young kids that are following these young singers are getting caught up in all of this they're being programmed because it's like you know well she's she's great and I love her but they don't realise like with Lionel Richie time like he wrote his own songs he composed them so like Michael Michael composed his own songs you know hardly ever did Michael sing a song that wasn't written and produced by him yep written and produced by Lionel Richie and that meant that he made all of the money great he did like everything but like all of this that's going on now and I became quite emotional I think it was I think it was Nicholas on one of the shows with Nicholas and I became quite emotional and I said you know what here are all of these people that have got this God given talent God has gifted them with this most incredible voice with the ability to like to act with the ability to do like whatever in the creative sphere and they are being compromised that the only way that they can do their craft that they can use that voice to do the acting is that they've got to do it this way they've got to do it that way you've got to be a part of this I mean it's just that for me is like heartbreaking yeah and the same like with the same with do you ever watch Prime Minister PRYME yes I love him I thought you were talking about a TV show yes I do I love him on one of his on one of his shows he was saying that one of his close friends is the son of James Brown oh wow and he was saying that Michael Jackson would actually call James Brown I'm pretty sure it's James Brown like please forgive me Prime if I've got that wrong and he would ring him and say how can we do our talent how can we be our creative selves without having to be caught up in the illuminati how can we do it how can we get away how can we get away and just be our creative selves without that you know and there he was so very very brave when he took that mic he took to the stage with his microphone and he said Tommy Minolta is the devil yeah and in that same speech isn't that when he said the best is yet to come yes that Trump has said a lot and he also said thank you Diana mmhmm mmhmm oh yeah yep oh yeah it's like I can't wait I'm so excited for us as Charlie says we're going into such a beautiful time and somebody else compared to having a baby and I've never had a child but I've been in the room and my sister was having a baby and the amount of pain and the look on her face it was like her birthing her child but in the minute that child came out and it's like the whole room just changed and it was like all of a sudden everybody went to hug that baby and it was like she looked like she just metamorphed after this awful grueling labor into being this mother of this beautiful perfect child and I feel like somebody compared us that's what we're going through right now we're like in the birthing process we're going to punch our husbands and you know put on all the good drugs to get through but once that baby is birthed it'll all be worth it, it'll be worth the pain and worth the labor pains and worth the weight gain worth everything just to have that beautiful baby and I think Hollywood is going to still be around but run by really good people who are actually looking for peace the thing is even people have sent me through pictures of different celebrities and stuff doing all of the symbolism and things and as I said to them I said you're looking at that and I said they are told to do that they're told to do that there are some of them that are into it up to their ears up to their eyeballs but there are a whole lot of them that are not so please don't please don't chunk them all in together because they don't deserve that they've just got themselves in this situation and they're creative and they want to be able to express their talent and they've basically been manipulated to do certain things in order for the Illuminati to then have whatever it is that they're wanting to do whatever that agenda is to do with the people that are creative so I can't wait to when everything falls falls away and these people can just express their God-given talent out there in the world without being controlled by this evil yeah, me too I'm so excited and I know you're right because when I lived in LA there are so many people out there that are so unbelievably talented that really just want to show their talent and that's art any type of art is our connection to each other it's how, why we still read Shakespeare human beings have so much in common with each other and that's that key element and it will be a beautiful time for people in the entertainment industry in that music, movies to be able to, I'm happy for kids who are in movie school right now because they're going to be walking into an opportunity where they're going to be able to literally just make movies they don't have to sell their soul yeah, it's exciting for the future and I know it's getting late for you in Australia and I know you're probably getting tired we would love to have you come back I'd love to come back I'd love to come back and it's just like people if they're going through a difficult time over there it's like being on Nicholas's show it's like there's been a lot of people that have made contact with me they've had their soul charts done, a lot of them have downloaded the recording for the clearing of the negative emotions to keep them like clear I just say to them you've got it you have to keep yourself clear of the negative emotions you know you can't allow yourself to fall down that to get into that but it's like when the COVID was first started and everybody went into lockdown it's like I said right okay and I put that up and it was a gift I think you downloaded it did you? Yeah, that's when I found you that's when you found me I'm going to put all of that all your links down in the description box because I really want your teachings to get out to everybody that watches me as well because you are such a gift what you teach and all that stuff is such a gift to the world right now this is that your friend was right you really this 30 years of doing this you were repairing people and now it's like it's like and it's the thing that's really really weird is that I started doing people's charts 40 years ago yeah and then I was doing this journey and did a whole lot of work on myself and then I got right so I've done this and done this and done this and then I ended up in Hawaii doing study with the Kahoonas and then I heard I learned all of the Hawaiian healing aspects and the healing techniques yeah and then Uncle George Naope on the big island of Hawaii who was the Kahoona of the of the hula yeah and they used to have big hula conventions yeah and when I went and did the study it's like I worked I studied like with him being like the guru yeah and learned chanting his chants his ancient Hawaiian chants that were handed down through his lineage yeah and then he said to me after doing four trips over there and doing more and more study and getting more and more like in depth in regard to how human beings work and how the spirit works and the energy works yeah and it's like and he said to me he said right girly you're going to go back and you're going to teach and I went okay alright and he said you're going to work with groups of people and he said and you'll do this work you'll do this work and it's to free them of all of their fear all of their negative you know beliefs so that they become empowered they become connected to themselves and the source I went okay and he said yes you're going to do it groups groups and I went groups I'm going to do this with groups he said yes I went okay alright okay whatever you know so like so I came back to Australia and then I was doing some work with people one-on-one and they said to me like well my friend wants it and this one wants it and that one wants it and somebody else wants it so then I sat with a group of my friends and I just went right now this is what was said to me in Hawaii here I am now this is what they're asking and I went you really need to teach we really need to do this you know for groups of people I went okay alright okay so then I did my I did my first seminar in December of 1991 oh wow and and people say to me now was that was it your plan to do these no it was God's plan it wasn't my plan and they went well how did you know you know like to continue and I went well people from the first one people changed so much that when they went back to family and friends and work people wanted to know what they had done so they told them so I said so then those people wanted to do it and so then I thought oh I suppose I better do another seminar so I said to my team you ready to do another one they went yeah go great so we did another one and then we did another one and then we did another one and then we did another one and people sort of asked me you know to this very day it's like well how much do you pay for advertising what's your promotional budget I go I don't have one and they went what it's just left open and I go no I said no I said people just turn up I said I don't advertise when you're in a bar when you're in a bar purpose it doors open for you yeah and I just go and like in this one and I dance around the room you know I just go oh my God like thank you God thank you thank you for choosing me to do this work yeah thank you because like I mean we even had a little five year old in this last program came in with her mom we had 15 year old kids coming in with their dad you know and the parents are divorced separated and the kids are going through this trauma so they come in and they just be traumatized and they just happy happy little kids wish I had had this when I was a child that's a lucky child to start that young with this knowledge yeah on my channel we talked a lot about what Nisara means and what that's going to mean for us to totally flip into a new financial system and the fact that we're used to having to work to survive that we've kind of forgotten what to work what our Dharma really means and a lot of my subscribers will email me and be like because I'll say like well what did you like to do when you were a kid like if you didn't have to worry about money what would you what would you do yeah people don't they can't remember like did you draw as a kid what did you like to do and I think something like a soul reading to have and to kind of get back to them for my people watching reach out because this is a way for you to kind of reconnect with the essence of who God created you to be before you so change up and I have a lot of people like over the 40 years of doing readings but I can remember with Lionel Richie and when I when I met him it was so funny and the guys had come in went into an exclusive menswear store that were touring yeah and they walked in and this girl that I had help was in there working and she went ah dancing on the ceiling to her they go yeah and she goes ah do you know Waka and they went yeah why do you and she goes no now Waka is William King from the Commodores yeah no no but it's like but a friend of mine actually did a reading for him and they went what's her name and she said Taimara and they go what's her number because we've heard about her so apparently the Commodores went back and this was after Lionel had left yeah so then the guys just went right and then they called me and then I went in and I did readings on all of them and they kept on going to Lionel and saying you got to you got to see this woman you got to talk to her it's like she's freaky she's real and so no don't believe in it don't believe in it don't believe in it don't believe in it yeah and I'm able to talk about Lionel because he's actually mentioned me in the press and he's told the press in this you know that was something that they actually did tell the truth yeah it was the truth what they wrote and then then the last concert here in Melbourne the guys rang me and they said right full names of birth this is it this is it this is it this is it mention about them that anyway I did it recorded it all they said come to the concert so I went to the concert with my assistant and they said come backstage you got backstage passes so went backstage walked in who was the keyboard player said have you got them I go yet and I gave them to him and then he disappeared he came back and he said what he wants to see you I went what he said he wants to see I said but he doesn't believe in this yeah he said you know to all of you guys that they don't believe in what it is that I do and he said well he wants to see you he said what did you write on the sheet of paper because he opened it and read and I said oh I said I just what I wrote and this is really interesting because I just said okay go what do you want me to write and what I wrote was God gives each and every human being with a talent yeah your thank you to God is to recognize it and do something with it he's thank you to you is all that you achieve and more and he read it and said go get her so then he said you know come and I went okay so back then I used to wear like white jumpsuits because somebody said that I came from another planet and that's why I used to dress that way and you know and I'm only like five foot one yeah so it's like I'm short I'm the same height as Nicole Richie so the both of us wear really, really high heels anyway so opened up the door and Lina was on the other side of this room and Brenda was sitting over here and opened up the door and he turned around and he looked me up and down and he went your hook and I said yes he said but you're little and I went yes and he said and you're normal like normal and I went yes and he said to me later he said I expected you to be about 20 like 20 stone and to wear like I have a calf tan and like and a thing on your head yeah but we sat down and we sort of you know like and he said hi online and I go yeah I know and then we sat down and he introduced me to Brenda and Brenda was like you know like very very pleasant but very distant yeah and he said first of all before you get into saying anything about all of this he said I just need to let you know that I don't believe in this yeah I don't believe in what you do okay that's cool I said I'm not a fan of yours and I don't have any of your records so does that make us even and he just looked at me and laughed and she looked at me and she laughed and she said it was then that I went okay alright she's not a fan she doesn't you know she hasn't got him up on a pedestal you know it's like so that was that so then I went through you know the charts and stuff and then all of a sudden I said something and he said hold on a minute can you just repeat what you just said I went sure and I repeated it and he looked he looked at me he looked at Brenda Brenda looked at him she looked at me and he said to me how do you know that and I went and I thought and I went how do I know that he goes yeah how do you know that and I went why and he said because there's two people on the whole of the planet that knows that me and her the only two he said so what are you doing now and I went what do you mean now like after this what are you doing I said going home and he said you're coming back with us to the hotel he said we need to talk so and that was it I've been close friends ever since mm-hmm he's a good one I feel like he's a good one um yeah so yes that's awesome so that's what my charts are basically all about it's about connecting people to their soul and what their soul has come here to do you know and people will sit and they will cry and they will go oh my god it's like you've just told me how I have felt all of my life you've just told me my whole of my life story of everything that has happened and they've gone like how do you know this and I go well numbers talk to me numbers talk to me and it's like and I was actually told oh yeah when I like when I was because when my first marriage split up I had my daughter was only two and a half yeah anyway somebody dragged me to a reading now I was religious you know so you don't go and have readings done because that's the work of the devil you know and she said to me she said you're going to do what I do but she said but you're going to become a lot more famous and she said you're going to work with numbers you're going to work with planets you're going to work with she said you'll see things you'll hear things you'll have feelings about things and she said and you'll start with numbers but she said you won't study because you've actually worked with numbers way back in Egyptian time and she said and you actually you had to you worked with it you interpreted like all of these like scrolls and oh I thought she was the weirdest thing on planet earth I mean like I was separated I was on a pension and I was cleaning houses to make it neat and yeah sure sure I'm going to be like you but I'm going and then she said and then you'll get to a certain age and she said a very famous singer will tour Australia and you will work with him and he will take you back to America she said and it was also interesting because she said and you're going to do something you're going to do some sort of work but that will be further on in your journey and it's like you'll have an aeroplane and people will come on the aeroplane and they will be a certain way and you'll take them on this journey in this aeroplane and then the aeroplane will land and they will leave the aeroplane totally transformed from who they were when they first stepped on the plane amazing that's the seminar yeah exactly yes yeah yeah well I we spent a lot of time in India studying with our teacher in India with yoga and the guru since no longer with us anymore but he used to say like for westerners to take that journey all the time to go study it means that you are completing something you started in a prior existence and it sounds like with the Egyptian thing like there's a completion you know and that's one thing I think a lot of the old religions even in the missing gospels of the bible that were taken out were fact checked and censored from the bible Jesus talks about reincarnation absolutely absolutely it was the meeting at Constantinople where they actually were moved reincarnation oh no no no no no no we're not going to leave that in because it's going to make them be empowered yes yes exactly I think someone said there's 777 books that are supposed to be in the bible we got like 60 of them and those were also altered as well vulnerable and scared and that's not what Jesus was teaching freedom of a living god to live free not of a death yeah so I'm excited for this great awakening and everything that's going to come and yeah I'm going to put all of your stuff so guys watching all of tomorrow's stuff is going to be down in the description box you can go to her website I'm going to put some of her old videos up with Nicholas as well because I know she's addictive so he's gorgeous isn't he he's so gorgeous smile on his face all the time no yeah I just love him but I just want to wrap with something and this is something that my father shared with me yeah and and I find that it's just so so powerful I was about 8 and he said and my nickname was Min because I used to laugh all the time yeah and he said to me hey Min and I go and he said just come outside for a minute so I walked outside and he said what are you standing on I said I'm standing on the ground and he said this is the floor of God's church and he said look up what are you looking at and I said looking at the sky and he said that's the roof of God's church and he said and every day when you walk on the floor of God's church and you have the roof of God's church over you just remember to be a good Christian he said going going to a man made church once a week does not make you a good Christian exactly 100% I love that that makes me a little emotional yeah and God loves all people everyone everybody here's to our wonderful wonderful, wonderful world that is about to embrace us all and thank God for Donald Trump amen amen we would be screwed really I get emotional thinking about him too because of all his family and him have gone through everything that they have gone through it's like thank you thank you thank you so very very much I hope one day I would like to and everybody else's hearts I hope that they feel this I hope that they get this I hope that they know how appreciative like you know millions of people are feeling at this point in time on the planet for everything that that family has done and that man is amazing amazing I agree, I hope to be able to hug him one day I just I don't know how to thank him for the amount of crap and his children too and his in-laws his daughter in-laws his grandchildren just the sacrifices that they've literally made and I know that they're protected I know people say they see angels around him like I know that he is protected but it was absolutely and it's not just about America it's the world it's the world it's the planet it's the world you know so many people here in Australia they just love him but one thing that I used to do is tomorrow and I go yep what's going on and I go what's going on they go yeah what's going on gee I don't know why what's going on and they go there's something there's something going on and if anybody's going to know it'll be you they go oh okay alright so I go so how are you I go cool so tell me something they go what do you think of Trump and they go oh yeah and then I go oh yeah okay cool yeah so like I'm not sure exactly what's going on but you know if I get anything I'll give you a buzz and they go oh okay cool I can see you and this is what I said to all of my girls I go like if people are saying so what do you think of Trump and I said as soon as you get a negative I go dismiss them when people would go like oh he's great he's great they miss understand he's so misunderstood and then I go great have you got an hour and they go yeah I go right down and listen because it's not just about America and I go da da da da da da da da da da da and they go oh my god and then I said you go and I said you've got it you've got to watch Janet Ubersard and it's about the cabal it's the taking down of the cabal I said she's going to take you back to the 15th century yep and I said you will freak out at some of the things I said you will get extremely emotional about some of the things I said you'll nearly throw up about a lot of the things and I said and you will end up bringing me and you will say but it can't it can't be happening it's like no it couldn't know that could not be yeah so I said so I am good morning you and I said and there are 10 episodes take it easy do one then when you're ready do the next I said and then after that then there is the sequels and I think she's up to number 11 sequel 11 at the moment but she's got 17 sequels yeah she's it's amazing I give people a lot too that are people who are just like starting to wake up disoriented I'm like just sit down I send them a link say the same thing you do don't try to watch it all at once we watched it pretty much all at once but we already knew a lot of the stuff because we had been following number 17 for a while my boyfriend grew up on military bases and he's had alien experiences he knew what happened in September in 2001 was not what they told us that we already knew that that's where he kind of woke up so that was how challenging for all of those men and women that knew yeah I know oh god and they weren't able to they had no and who was the person in New York the next day that was on the streets of New York helping Donald Trump that's right he was out there doing everything he could he's he um yeah and I have to say to people like you know this man is powerful when they attack him the way that they have we've never seen this type of annihilation on a candidate do you know what happened it's like I was talking to someone the other day and I was thinking like who was it because it's like you know a couple of times like when I was in New York but there was one of the girls that actually knew Donald Trump she worked she actually worked she did some work and then another girl another girl like knew him but I did his charts didn't I oh yeah I did his charts I recorded it and this girl knew his personal assistant yeah so off we went off we went to Trump Tower with the package with charts and left them never heard anything how bizarre and I went into the store and I bought this glass cube and inside the glass cube is the coat of arms for Trump yeah it's like and it's got like Trump on it or Trump class or whatever it is yeah and it's like it sits on my desk yeah amazing it was like a god week back back all those years ago yeah I'm sure he knows who you are for I'm sure I'm sure he watches I'm sure he knows who everybody is I'm sure because I'm sure he's super grateful for everybody that's standing up and trying to be like no listen guys this is actually amazing what's happening the normal's not coming back anymore and it's not because of what the state wants it's because we're moving into the age of Aquarius the golden age of thousand years of peace well we have we go one or two directions we can either go great reset or Nisara we're going Nisara so and like I said to people people were talking to me about like money and I went I've taken my money out of the bank and I bought gold and silver yeah that's what I've done I've got gold and silver my friends are doing that a while ago too yeah just yeah yeah the banks I'm by the Federal Reserve here in Atlanta it's been dead since last March the cars are on the parking garage like no one's there the only people that use that lot are dogs to go to the bathroom yep but like it was so funny because I kept on going into my bank and I said how much money am I allowed to withdraw a day I said $10,000 oh god so can you get like you know to get this man anyway so and then the next time I went in you know I went up and I went I said to him I said do I have to come back is it $10,000 and he goes oh look how much you got me and I go I've got that amount he went he said just come in he said you know on Friday he said I'll have the whole lot for you I said thank you but like he didn't even put like with my clients that I've said to them get your money out of the bank get it out of the bank and go buy gold and silver got it and they've gone okay alright and then they mean they go my bank wants to know why I want the money because it's your money you should have a right to pull it out and I said did you say to them it's my money it's my money why do I have to tell you what I want it for but one of the girls just said I've got a gambling problem I've got a gambling problem you're a classic girlfriend you know I will say people on this side of the board all have sense of humor everyone has a sense of humor everybody wants to yeah they have to they're everyone's intelligent everybody always looks so fresh and alive and awake and I love it that's awesome I have a gambling problem I'm gonna try that in my bank be like I have a gambling problem what do you want what do you want this money for it's like none of your business it's your personal money absolutely and we should have always been using gold and silver all along absolutely but we're getting back on track thank you to the Trump family and all the white hats all over the world all the militaries all the military all my god the military the military the navy seals to the parents and the families of those navy seals the six that were killed my heart just goes out to you guys it's like heartbreaking yeah never again will our servicemen and women be treated this way because we if we didn't have militaries in our countries then we would not have a country we would not have people really fighting for our sovereignty not just as Americans but every country's sovereignty because every human being is a product of God and deserves those inalienable rights given to us by God not by the government by God so yes absolutely well I know it's getting super late for you I can keep you on all day I've had an absolute I've had an absolute ball and just send me a message because nine o'clock at night works for me really really well okay good awesome early morning with Nicholas I'm like hello perfect well this works perfect for us too but make up okay do I report I'm not a morning person well I'm glad because I was worried about the time difference because of I've been to Australia before I was back in the early 2000s it was just one of my favorite countries in the whole when did you go when you came I want to say either 2002 or 2003 I was in Sydney don't you love it yes I told my boyfriend I was like if I could move anywhere in the world outside of America I would move to Australia I was there for like maybe a little over a month we traveled all up and down we went to Wollongong Sydney Opera House for the new year it was I just I want to go back so bad it was my favorite place favorite favorite place on earth and I yes but hopefully soon we won't even have passports because we will be sovereign beings somebody said to me they went well if you don't have your vaccination travel I said I don't care yeah absolutely I said I'll stay home I don't need to travel I've done a whole lot of travel in my life I've had you know I've been so blessed and I don't need to go anywhere I said I said they're not putting no freaking needle in my arm nope and we know it's not going to last this whole thing is going to get taken it's a controlled demolition right now anyway so for people watching that I freaked out I was thinking about this the other day and I actually saw I saw people lining up that it had the vaccination and they actually had another vaccination that counteracted the one that they had that's what I think is going to happen that's what I saw and it's like it goes into the system it's like what is the spray stuff and I've also got the drops for it it's like that it will have something in it that will go into the system and it will attract all of the gunk that they've put in it will attract it and pull it out and then it will just be expelled out of the body because there are a lot of good people right now that are feeling pressured are just trying to do what they think is right and they're good good people even though they're still good people and it's like this can't we have to have it and I'm sure there's an antidote I'm sure that the alignment I'm getting that that's going to that's coming that will be happening that will be happening and anybody that's got really really ill from it it's like they will go into med-beds yeah especially I know a lot of young women are having period issues and sterilization and I'm thinking the med-beds would be able to correct that because that is part of their plan is to lower the population so yeah so people watching here are freaked out about that I truly I just don't think I don't think we're all going to be okay we'll all come out the other side however you know as Charlie Wood said it's like there will be fatalities there will be fatalities with all of this yeah it's like you've got the military there have already been fatalities there so there will be fatalities but as I say to people listen to your gut feeling all the time if you've got a feeling don't go somewhere it's called don't go if you've got a feeling make this phone call make this phone call if you get a feeling to to just stay home it's called stay home listen to your gut feeling because God's going to be giving us like warnings so do yeah and I've talked about it like in the 80s we are going to be sent on safe journeys but in order to know the safe journey you have to be clear yeah because when you're clear you are then a receiver and you will get the feeling I've got to go there and you won't know why you have to go there but you have to go you'll trust it there's a reason yeah absolutely yeah awesome well I will send you an email we will get you right back on again because I know my audience is going to fall in love with you the way I have so and again guys everything to reach tomorrow is in the description box down below and also get them to send questions into you absolutely send me questions and we will get the questions ready for the next show because as I say if I work with Tarah by Janine and Tom Numbers too I always say when you have a divine access or an access to the divine this is the real news because this is coming straight from the horses now absolutely and I think the thing is also like with people don't worry about Trump because I kept on seeing a man in a suit but it was a blue suit yeah a blue suit yeah standing upright crown on the head yep not president no not president it's like I never got that next time I will do my cards my Tarah cards are 27 years old that's a very powerful number 27 see here they are my cards and I will read them sometimes when I am doing with Nick do you want me to do the cards Nick do you want me to see what is going on and we and one thing with Nick too I have been putting it out there I know he wants to interview president or interview Trump and I have been putting that out to the universe because there is nobody out there in this world that I would want to see have that position than Nicholas because he is such a sweet kid and I I just want him to have that opportunity so if you are listening Alliance make it happen for our little boy little brother Nick over here because we all want to see that happen for him awesome we ask guys send me your questions and please go and look at all of Tamara's stuff reach out to her if you need a soul reading if you just need some guidance she is amazing to help you with the negative emotions if you have kids that are not sleeping your kids that have got problems it's like just on the products you can download it on your mobile phone perfect I will probably send that to my sister because my niece and nephew it's been hard for these this has been child abuse for the children they don't need to be worrying about this adult stuff they need to be kids I will send that to my sister too I will let you go have a wonderful Friday evening thank you darling


Hello, everybody. My name is Jonathan Pickard, and I manage the Cloud Infrastructure Engineering Team at PayPal. Sorry, I skipped ahead. It's my pleasure to share some unique insights into the transformation that we made to support Cloud at PayPal. So a little bit about PayPal before we start. Let's quickly run through some key details on what PayPal is and what we do. We're a payments company. You can think of PayPal as a digital wallet, where there's one convenient, secure location for you to make purchases in store or online. With payment innovations like that, we continue to grow. And as these numbers show, 137 million active users, $300,000 worth of payments processed each minute. Nearly 200 markets over 20 currencies. We are the world's most widely used digital market. And now that you know about PayPal, you should also know about PayPal Cloud Infrastructure Engineering. We manage all non-development aspects of Cloud at PayPal. And we have a sister team that handles development. Our work includes infrastructure and cloud deployments in multiple data centers across multiple regions. It also includes CI CD to support our development team in producing and propagating quality code and features. We have an intense focus on creating and maintaining reliability within the cloud in order to fix and break things ourselves before our end users do. And we certainly can break. And we've got thousands of compute nodes and thousands more VMs taking production traffic today. We're constantly adding both to support our continued growth. And now that you know about my team, I'll tell you what we've done. We've done more with less. We have a very small team of four staff, yet we deploy and manage cloud at a very large scale. Thousands of compute nodes, multiple data centers. We've reduced what used to take months to mere minutes. This is real, and this is happening. And we're leveraging these cutting-edge technologies and methodologies to enable success. We've engineered our cloud platform to enable ourselves to solve complex business problems and reduce time to market. And we've been able to implement development testing and deployment automation that leads to higher quality cloud products and services, and ultimately, happier cloud customers. And we did this by embracing OpenStack and Agile. And this is how we did it. So to tell this transformation story, we've got to jump back a bit because we first had to build a strong foundation. We started by revamping our operating system using a customized version of Linux that met the requirements of our use cases. We upgraded that OS in place on thousands of physical boxes. With our workloads now running on an OS that could be virtualized, we then validated that those workloads were suitable for virtualization themselves. Again, we're talking about production workloads, real applications taking real payments. We then built and deployed our apps onto VMs and measured their performance while taking real traffic. We fine-tuned requirements to ensure that we had the right amount of CPU, RAM, and disk base for those workloads so that we didn't waste resources. We proved that our applications would thrive in a virtualized environment. And we knew that we could now leverage OpenStack to enable infrastructure as a service. We then repurposed existing teams to support cloud, and we placed our top resources on this critical program. And it was then that the PayPal Cloud was born. The technology was decided. That's OpenStack. The staff was in place. But the old methods of task and resource assignment wouldn't work for this transformation. We knew we would be running at a very fast pace with many moving parts and very high expectations, getting even faster and even more complex as we scaled out. So we embraced Agile, and we did it without anyone mandating that we do so. And we did it without fully understanding how traditional engineering work could be done in an agile way. Siran Mandar, the director of Cloud at PayPal, presented at the last OpenStack summit in Portland, Oregon. And one of his themes was agility, agility, agility. And that theme remains true now. And we continue to realize a very real decrease in time to market for customer-facing services, a very real decrease in getting services deployed, and our ability to now utilize the engineering culture of PayPal to deliver specialized cloud services where needed. So agile was identified as a means to enable team transformation. This is from a business level. And the goals are very clear. And the processes are outlined for implementation. But taking traditional infrastructure engineers and throwing agile at them isn't easy. You're talking about a set of processes and a business mindset and applying that to engineers. You have to make it real to them with value presented at the personal level. And you have to phase it in. This is not an overnight change. One of our saving graces was that we were all new to agile. So we all had to learn together. And the pace naturally set itself. We didn't know enough to bite off more than we could chew. So looking at this at the personal level, it becomes about embracing change. Some accept change without question. Others accept struggle to embrace. Some refuse to accept or embrace. This is expected, it's normal, and patience is required. The strategy on embracing this massive change to how engineers have worked for their entire careers is to showcase the success throughout the transition, let everyone see for themselves that the new processes and mindsets are working, that their peers are delivering, and that the business needs are being met on time and with quality. In our first six months on this journey, my entire team bought in and embraced agile. We all began working on things that didn't directly align against past skills. We quickly learned OpenStack, and we continue learning new things about OpenStack in agile every day. And we're thinking past the Ops side now, and we're getting deeper into the stack. And we're not quite DevOps, but we're definitely Ops Dev. So in addition, with daily attention to ensure that we're on track, we feel stronger as a team overall. We're definitely closer as a team, and we're doing more with less. Now I want to talk deeper on the agile tools and the processes that we use to engineer OpenStack at PayPal. Our only constant is change, and we keep saying by finding consistently in a constantly changing world. Our book of work tells us what the business needs us to do and when to do it. This is extremely valuable in enabling our success. If you don't have a book of work, make one. Talk with your team, your peers, understand what they need you to deliver, and prioritize all that work. Balance it out between the amount of work to do versus the amount of people you have to work. We use JIRA to track against our book of work. We take our work items and stories, assign owners, and create estimates, and we define milestones. We use Kanban as our methodology for enabling agility. Kanban prescribes that a resource work on their highest priority item and only that item until they're completely blocked or until they're completed or blocked. JIRA contains very nice capabilities to enable story prioritization and Kanban board visualization. So now we've got the stories created and assigned. People are working on the highest priority stories, and now we need to track it to not only ensure that milestones are being met, but more importantly, to know when milestones are not being met, understanding why, and clearing those blockers to resume progress. I'll run through some of the larger themes from our learned lessons in the transformation. Agile turnaround was not overnight. Three months in, we eliminated ad hoc work patterns with frequent reminders. This was a lot of repeating, don't work on anything that isn't a JIRA story, and only work on the highest priority story until you're done with it or blocked. Six months in, we began tracking work on a per-subtask basis rather than just on a generic JIRA story. This is a very deep understanding of the steps required to accomplish each step. Outline them all as unique subtasks and checking them off as they were completed. One example of this is a new cloud deployment that we did in a production data center. We had a master story in JIRA that had 53 subtasks. As each was completed, we closed it out and we tracked status against each subtask during our daily standup. Nine months in, we enabled individual autonomy by tracking work on a per-milestone basis rather than on a per-subtask basis. The per-subtask tracking let the team know the level of detail needed to ensure on-time deliveries. But it was very hands-on and appeared as micromanagement. This was something we knew we had to get the importance of on-time task milestones, on-time task execution, ingrained in the mindset, and we followed it up with a shared understanding that the better way is to track milestones and not every individual subtask. Each team member is now enabled to execute work as they please, identifying their own subtasks and executing against the defined milestones. Now looking back at my previous example of our production data center deployment, all 53 subtasks, our next production data center deployment was tracked by milestones, four of them, that aggregated each of those subtasks and gave autonomy to the executor to do what was needed in the order that they deemed appropriate. Engineers like this autonomy, and it was critical in our journey in ongoing success. Another thing we found out is that sprints didn't work for us. We ran a couple of months of two-week sprints. This resulted in more items than not spilling into the next sprint, and the cycle repeated. We found Kanban, and it works well for us. We aren't artificially restrained on time, and we don't have to artificially group unrelated deliverables together. Our engineers have a very clear understanding of what to work on and when to work on it, when their due dates are, and what else is in their pipeline. Even with Kanban, we came across times where we had fires to put out, and resources got pulled into this without prioritization, without scheduling or tracking. Our solution to this was the liaison role, essentially a daytime on-call position that we rotate our engineers through on a weekly basis. During that liaison week, the liaisons work outside of Agile and handle any inbound support requests and escalations. When doing Book of Work task assignments, we take liaison into account and don't schedule work for that week or deliverables do that week. With these tweaks to Kanban, while we don't hit, when we don't hit our due dates, it's usually because of external blockers. Another thing we learned was in order to maintain a breakneck pace, came with it some big responsibilities that we didn't prioritize as high as we should have. Of all of our core infrastructure and open-stack services that we engineer, each one of them was missing at least one important requirement. So we did a gap analysis and asked ourselves these questions. Is it highly available and resilient? Is it able to be consistently deployed and managed? Is it documented? Is it secure and current? Is it monitored? So ask yourself these questions for each technology or service. Find the gaps, look for them, and be thorough and fix them. And when you do that, you'll eliminate technical debt. You'll get ahead, and more importantly, you'll stay ahead. That's the story. We built the foundation to support cloud at PayPal and executed on the vision with Agile. Comparing where we were before our foundation was laid versus where we are now, it only takes hours now to do what it previously took months for. The open-stack cloud that we developed at PayPal recently enabled the business to build thousands of VMs in just hours and support our peak holiday traffic expectations. And that isn't just virtualization. This is carefully crafted orchestration with DNS, load balancers, monitoring, and other services to allow for end-to-end single-button press deployments. This is why we've eagerly taken on this journey, why we've transformed, we've embraced open-stack, we've embraced Agile, we contribute to open-stack development, and PayPal's better off. And best of all, we're having fun doing it. Thank you for your time.