It is commonly thought that those who eat plant-based diets may be more prone to iron deficiency, but it turns out they're no more likely to suffer from iron deficiency anemia than anybody else. This may be because not only do those eating meat-free diets tend to get more fiber, magnesium, vitamins A, C, and E, but also get more iron. But the iron found in plants is non-heme iron. Those eating meat-free diets don't get much of the heme iron found in blood and muscle, which may be a good thing. The avoidance of heme iron may be one of the key elements of plant-based protection against metabolic syndrome, may also be beneficial in lowering heart disease risk. The link between iron intake and coronary heart disease has been contentiously debated, but the inconsistency of the evidence may be because the majority of total dietary iron comes mostly from plants, and so total iron intake is associated with lower heart disease risk. But if you just look at iron intake from meat, it's associated with significantly higher risk for heart disease. This is thought to be because iron can act as a pro-oxidant, contributing to the development of atherosclerosis by oxidizing cholesterol with free radicals. The risk has been quantified as a 27% increase in coronary heart disease risk for every one milligram of heme iron consumed daily. The same has been found for stroke risk. The studies on iron intake and stroke have had conflicting results, but maybe because they had never separated out heme from non-heme iron until this study, which found that the intake of meat iron, but not plant iron, was associated with increased risk of stroke, as well as diabetes. Higher animal iron intake significantly associated with greater risk of type 2 diabetes, but not total or plant iron. 16% increase in risk for every daily milligram of heme iron consumed, and the same for cancer, with up to 12% increase risk for every milligram of daily heme iron exposure. In fact, you can actually tell how much meat someone is eating by looking at their tumors. To characterize the mechanisms underlying meat-related lung cancer development, they asked lung cancer patients how much meat they ate, and examined the gene expression patterns in their tumors, and identified a signature pattern of heme-related gene expression. Though they just looked at the lung cancer, they expect these meat-related gene expression changes may occur in other cancers as well. We do need to get enough iron, but only about 3% of premenopausal white women have iron deficiency anemia these days. However, the rates are worse for African and Mexican Americans. Bringing our leading killers into account, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, the healthiest source of iron appears to be non-heme iron, found naturally in abundance in whole grains, beans, split peas, chickpeas, lentils, dark green leafy vegetables, dried fruits, and nuts and seeds. But how much money can be made on beans? So the industry came up with a blood-based crisp bread made out of rye, and cattle, and pig blood, one of the most concentrated sources of heme iron, about two-thirds more than chicken blood. Now, blood-based crackers don't sound particularly appetizing. No worries. There's also cow blood cookies, and blood-filled biscuits. The filling ends up a dark-colored chocolate-flavored paste with a very pleasant taste. Dark-colored because sprayed-ried pig blood can have a darkening effect on the food product's color, but the worry is not the color or taste, it's the heme iron, which because of its potential cancer risk is not considered safe to add to foods intended for the general population.


hey everyone welcome back to another counter side video today's video we're going to be talking about the last of the three shadow palaces so shadow palace three but before that if you want an updated counter side videos please hit the subscribe button down below okay guys so we are here at shadow palace so as you can see glowing red eyes and these are going to be enemies so number one is going to be Shaolin so she's going to be one shotting any ground unit that isn't a tank so sorry for you guys next is going to be shadow rivet so this is going to be a a a nightmare for ground units she deals increased damage to counters if you bring counters to the field so we're going to be talking about playing majority air units and also we have here shadow live has tons of evasion and super tanky and that is what she does so more or less most of the teams that i'm going to bring here are going to be air units so we're going to start off with shadow palace three room one okay guys so we have here my lineup so snipers are going to be banned for this one so dole you'd me la and a lot of mechs are actually banned because they're snipers so this is going to be my team i had to bring um non-air units but they're mostly towers so to start off i brought along for my rangers it's going to be janus janus good because it's going to turn into a defender um when he goes down sparrow is here um rosaria is actually here black tail as well um other options for your rangers would be atb 1b spear if you have it leveled up which i don't have and also atf 35 thunderbolt which we still don't have in the game so we will go with what we have so next is going to be a support of course going to be choy inna it's going to be gabriel and their last is going to be lsy for your awakened units so let's try this one in um an auto okay so first to deploy would be janus lsy and i think that is woodpecker so hopefully this is going to be better and uh so far my ships are taking hits uh let's stop okay so that is how to bypass snipers down below so far decent decent run um i think i'm happy with this and i think i'm more or less your other you know your other teams in this shadow hall or shadow hole three is going to be similar because you're actually tipping toe on the air or in the air with the snipers that are going to one shot your team so more or less um this is going to be a fast win with a 149 left so it's a win so that is actually shadow hall room one okay so we're off to room two let me just prepare something for you guys in terms of the lineup and see if it's still the same okay guys so for room two your not your strikers are going to be banned and what i'm bringing is janus for rangers pyro rosaria and black tail so again choices that you can swap out if you have our atb 1b spear and also your atf um 35 thunderbolt so we have here for snipers because they're back so you have here liud milla and you have here buzzard and also i have here um lsy so also yeah i mentioned so in a zoo more or less let's take this for a spin for auto um auto battle and let's see how it does um this is actually almost the same as the room one lineup um this is more beefed up because i'm snipers are back and this has more firepower with buzzard here um you have um what else uh you only are down to one tower and more or less this is going to be a more beefed up lineup as i've said so again a bit of a rush from uh from our specter there and more or less um this is going to be an easier win i think than than room number one so more or less again i'm i'm i'm ready full so black tail is here so i'm gonna finish this in a minute and got a bit of the day one minute 52 so for this lineup so that is our room number two for shadow palace three okay doki so again so far um air units are definitely in need for these stages so we're off to room three let me just prepare for this room okay guys for room number three your defenders are banned here but we're not really worried about that um we have we have back woodpecker so uh he is the one for your strikers then more or less next would be janus again sparrow rosaria and black tail for your rangers again you could actually replace either one of them with atb 1b spear or atf 35 thunderbolt if it arrives to the game and also choy and ena is here elude milla and also ls y so for snipers you could also swap in buzzard as well so take a look we'll take a look at this for auto battle okay so we'll start off again with uh mr janus which is going to turn to a defender if he goes down so now you have your sniper then you have your ls y then you have here sparrow it's like a what do you call this it's like a firing squad so choy ena is gonna be um later at the back so still a good push for this guys not really that much resistance i'm sure we're going to have more problems in room four room five so you have to wait for that one so this is going to be um really not really not saying it's not a challenge but it's more of this is going to be systematic in a way that you can actually finish them off while you guys are in the air and um again it's going to be i hope to finish this at one minute 30 if possible for your room three so again pesky aren't they so they keep on coming and i'm just gonna you know pass by 130 for this clear probably 124 okay so that's our win for room number three and we will be going to the next two which are going to be tough with the restrictions for deployment cost okay so we are here at room number four definitely for room number four there is a max deployment cost of 25 which will be a challenge but i'll be you know creating a team for that don't you worry guys okay guys this is this will be my final test room four hopefully this works and i've been defending for quite a while and more or less having a problem squeezing to deployment cost 25 so hopefully this this team works so else why is not here and the dude milla is actually very good in terms of um um keeping um your attackers at base especially for strikers so let's check this out in auto hopefully this is it because after this one i won't be able to play and i'll have to reset for tomorrow so so far so far kind of good so far so good um hopefully that um we could we could defend and move forward at the same time because at this point i'm running out of ideas in terms of who to put in and more or less what to do so this is so far my best what do you call this my best progress and i've reached far this is the furthest that i've reached and the quickest so far this is it i think for number four so we are quick with this one and probably could use this lineup for number five or room five if i'm able to finish this one so again it's good i'm going to clear this guys hopefully hopefully go yes yes yes i cleared it room four with that lineup is actually solid solid so let's go to room number five see if i could close this one so we have one more um i don't think i have a change for room number five for that line but that lineup was actually perfect already last chance room number five um shadow palace three let's see if i can close this deal we're gonna go with auto at the same time to more or less have so far this is the same um stage more or less um this just has Shaolin here so you have to just take her out this is a much more um slower charge than the fourth one so hopefully i can clear this one i'm not saying this is going to be easy or easier but again this is going to be less of a more less of a aggressive team than the other one so hopefully i'm right hopefully i'm right at least Gabriel's there to protect the ship and i'm nearing i'm nearing clearing of room number five yes yes it paid off it paid off so after a couple of testing this is it this is it cleared room number five for shadow palace three okay so that's it thanks guys for staying with me and um and what they call this and more or less seeing what i've done the team that i've constructed and actually that team can be built right now and hopefully you could clear your shadow palace three as well so thank you guys for staying this long in this video um hope that you subscribe and also um put a like to this video and also don't forget to click that bell icon guys if you subscribe this helps my channel so much thank you guys take care stay safe this is the warden and i'm out of here


Okay today's project is this copper that you see going to this boiler was damaged when a car ran through this wall. So as you noticed up here in this corner you can see that goes up goes across goes up over lots of up and downs and there's some bleed ports here and there. I don't like having to go around spot to spot trying to bleed things. So what I want to do today is make this so we can power bleed it. As you can see they have a bypass up here on top. They can go around the slow fill, auto fill. So we've got circulator pumps pushing the water out. You've got an expansion tank here that's shot, auto bleeder on top that don't work. You've got a gauge here that's bad. You've got a drain down there that don't work. And so what I want to do is make it so that I can valve off here and here and then when I add the water in it'll pressurize up to that. It'll go through the system out through the check valves all the way through the system back again and then when it comes back down to here I'll be able to bleed it out through a boiler drain pushing all the air along through. Most of the system is in series. I believe there might be a couple spots where it's in parallel but even if it is this is going to get a good majority of the air out and it's gonna be a lot easier than trying to do a lot of bleeding here and there. And since all these things need to be done it just makes sense go ahead and get them done now. This here is completely jacked. It won't come off. It won't open up at all. I mean it turns but it doesn't let no water out unfortunately. Alright this is pretty sweet.  Now I'm sure it probably won't last very long but it's a neat idea. Here and stuff like that but that's been a lot more work a lot more money. This is a agency that helps the public I should say so we're trying to keep the costs down so budgets and stuff are tight especially at this day and age. I used my regular drill bits the last time but honestly the stepping drill bit I think's gonna work out better just because just because I had to end up using them anyway. There's the joint. I put a lot more heat on this one which made a nice smooth round shoulder around it. Went ahead and pulled it in there. You can see that burn marks have come all the way up to here which means we pulled all the way into the socket.  Got a little bit here where basically I hit it with too much sprays rod but for the most part it's gonna work out just fine and it's gonna be very strong. I mean it's not going to move at all. Then we have the same thing over here with this one right here. I didn't run it quite as hot so it took a lot longer but we built a nice big shoulder around that and like I said we're deep into that copper there so it definitely saved them some money and this is gonna work just fine.  Totally wail on it. Alright so we've got that valve off there. We get that valve off there. The water is going to come in from the water heater here. Gonna bypass the fill valve. It's gonna come in, go into the auto bleed. It's gonna go down to here, come back to these pipes and it's going to stop. So it's only choice then to go through the circulator pumps, go out to the loop which is out and around that way then it'll eventually return back to here. Will it get all the air? Not always but it's gonna get a good majority of it out. Let it roll. Now unfortunately yes this is gonna put new fresh water in there which is gonna have more oxygen in it so right now we should be starting to come back here in a minute but you know that's quite a bit of water. Make sure we're getting air out of this. I'm not hearing any air out of it though. Hopefully I don't have zone valves on this. If they do that could cause us some issues which might be why this one had air coming out of it and the other one didn't. Very good.  We can find out real quickly. There's some water. Look at that. Our pressure right now is 20 pounds. So starting stopped awfully quick. We're gonna open this a touch which is gonna push all that water from there back over to here as you put that up there that way I can see whether it's coming out or not. This likely is the one that's further away. Pressure's coming up a little bit higher in a care floor about 20. It's not horrible.  Alright so pressure's up on top. Temperature's on bottom. I was looking up here and they had that Celsius there and I seen the 20. I still know where near the pressure zone. Yeah there we go. I can look at the air coming out where you teach me this which obviously it's nothing super unknown or anything like that but it's always been the way I prefer to do it over the years whenever I get the opportunity. It just makes sense and it seems to work really well and you'll know when you got it because she'll quit doing that little spurt and stuff like that. That's the chunks of air coming out. Unfortunately yeah we're putting clean water in there which probably is going to cause more rust and stuff like that but at this point when you're taking out about what was that 45 foot or more of piping you know you've got a lot of water going to be put into it so it's this way here we just get it all clean and start over. Alright so we've got it in there a little bit better. This pipe ain't perfectly straight and that piece there is so badly rusted I don't want to get crazy on it so we've got it to wide open ready to roll and I go ahead and turn her on. Hopefully that will help. I hope that's hooked up something. I wonder if this don't work or if it came unplugged or what the deal is. We're gonna find other things that we didn't know was wrong. Great. We'll turn that power off so don't close something up. This actually goes right there. Somebody snapped all the things off of it when they replaced it at one time so you're not gonna be able to do a whole lot with it unfortunately. You can try wire tying it somehow but I don't see that working. So far we've got that cable. The circulator pumps feel like they're running. I feel warped definitely there. Not so much there so we need to go turn that one up. So both of them are now calling Zone 1, Zone 2, I don't believe it's Zone 3. Primary loop pump that's the one down here. For you new guys the primary secondary loops and what they do on some of these high-pitched boilers because you got to have constant temperature through it. I forget exactly the reason basically so you don't shock the boiler but basically what they'll do is they'll circulate the hot water out of the boiler to a header and right back again. So that one just circulates that water just up from here to there and down. It just goes back and forth back and forth. While it's doing that these two zone circuits here or the supply side comes in goes out and it comes back and then it passes through that right there and then it picks up the heat and keeps on doing its thing. That one's getting warm. It's starting to get warmer. This one here I don't really want to hold on to. That's getting down to the mid 40s at night. Unfortunately that one's getting hot all the way up here. You got to watch when you're filling around for things too because sometimes the pipe will just pick up radiant heat so you want to go a little further away. It's picking it up which like here they got an auto bleeder up there. It probably doesn't work miss likely and like I said that's a lot of the reason why I just wanted to get rid of all that crap. This right here you see how easy it was. I didn't have to go around the building getting water on the floor but if you have a big parallel loop that can be a lot more difficult but you know it's no different than a geothermal loop when they're bleeding nose it just comes down to balling and how fast you're moving the water. So I'm going to set my arrow where that one's out there. Not a rise a little bit potentially as we get to warmer. It's still cool but like I said it's inside the building. It's got to come all the way through that so that's the longest run. This one here is the front which we got hot going out so it'll be coming back for long but it's finally starting to come up the temperature. So we'll check it right in this area here. About 153 ish area. So 170 there. So that's 68 so we're good there on that. Darker the color the more accurate it'll be when you're running in 0.95. You can see the difference. Here's black. Black really is accurate. So one of the things you can do is you literally put a piece of black electro tape on the pipe and it'll read a little more accurate especially to have a shiny object. Works pretty good.  See we're a little cooler here. 148 there. 86 there. Obviously we're heating up. It's just a matter of time. All right as I was saying here's those new pipes that we were in. I can hear water. So I may need to bleed this one a little bit more. It's getting warmer but I think they had a key bleeder up on that one there. Yeah we're 96. So I may use that key bleeder. See how it sounds over here. Yeah I can hear water in it. It's hotter than heck. You can hear the water and you do more bleeding.  And right now we're power bleeding it. This time we're hitting it hard with more pressure. I can feel it shaking as it's getting the air out. The big thing here is getting the volume push it up and down and around. It's very likely some places where it might be in parallel which make it near impossible. But we're getting stuff out big time I can feel it. Yeah there it goes again. We'll get her. I'm just gonna do it at the boaster it's like I did before. But now that we know it's getting hot through we know it's just got a little bit to go. Oh yeah look at that. All right so the entry way here has one of these. So I took this down there's a fan switch and drain and all that to bleed it. Coil's bad. All that wonderful stuff all over the place. All over me. I washed most of this off but unfortunately somebody didn't mark that. So that one don't work. All right so here's the back room area. This is the same thing. It's got valves on it but no bleeders. The problem with this whole system is it are all on monoflow tees. And a monoflow tee basically is not a normal tee it has a scoop. So it just scoops the water in goes through a circuit comes back down its back ends it scoops it into it. And the problem with those is is power bleeding doesn't work real good. It worked pretty good. Most everything is pretty hot. There's a little bit of water swashing here and there. So it got a good majority of the main I want to call it a trunk line the water line. Basically all that's left is just this stuff that needs you know fine tuned blood out and stuff like that. So this one here you're going to turn on the fan and then it'll blow heat through the coil. But I don't feel any heat coming through here and I don't see any good way to bleed it. I see back to back freaking shark bites and ball valves but I don't even know good. But otherwise everything's just about done. I need to get some extra auto bleeds short of that. Everything's working pretty well gone good. So it would have really sucked trying to do the main bleed plus all this. So my design worked pretty good.


Man Carter always leaving his toys everywhere big pet dinosaur shout out to Miles Garrett anyway YouTube team keep it clean What's going on? It's a engraving here with another video and in this video We get another reminder man why NFL is just it's superior to all that other Sports the leagues all that stuff NBA MLB all that other stuff Because even though even when we're taking a break from the actual football games is still a lot of fun because now We get to dive into the business side of the NFL and the business side can be really tough Can break some hearts? but it has to be done things have to be done and in business when There when you have somebody running the show When you have one person running the show and they do they usually do things a certain way They do things the way that they feel is best for business But then when somebody else comes in to take over for them then a lot of things can change a lot of rules can change a lot of regulations can change and Staff and employees they can change as well and some staff and employees that may have been part of the previous regime They may find themselves on the outside looking in because when a new GM enters in and the old GM exits out Nobody safe nobody safe So exit Freddy kitchens in into a Stefanski exit John Dorsey Into Andrew bear and a guy. He's like Like what 32 you 33 years old this this guy's like super young I'm like man. How like what? Browns, I didn't know y'all are hiring. I would have applied. I would have applied but anyway Browns today They saw they saw all these other people making so many moves over the past couple of days, of course my Ravens They let go of a Tony Jefferson The Redskins they released Josh Norman and Paul Richardson and they're gonna be more to come They're gonna be more to come is we almost have free agency So a lot of more people will be being released, but the Browns they decided, you know what? We want about 13 mil and the extra cap space Browns already got a boatload of cap space But they wanted even more So let's go through this list TJ carry he had to step up when When the hamstrings had the best of a greedy Williams and Denzel Ward Demetrius Harris Eric Kush, hopefully he's keeping it clean cuz I know his last name isn't in a Darius Taylor So the Browns and in this video, we're not really focusing on the players themselves But what this all means and again, like I said earlier new regime You don't even have to be the worst of the worst players from the previous regime But the fact that a new regime is coming in or a new regime has come in already Then they are going to want their own players to be part of this new System and hopefully for the Browns sake, I know I'm a Ravens fan So maybe not but hopefully for the Browns sake a new culture as well Because the previous culture and cultures that have been there for the culture that has been there for so long Hasn't been good. It's been very dysfunctional.  It's clearly not working But a lot of some Redskins fans. They told me they say hey We know about dance night already, but he said that he's gonna let Ron Rivera do everything He's gonna give Ron Rivera the power. Let him do his thing. History would say otherwise, but we'll see and In this case with the Haslams with Barry was the fanski We'll see how they allow them to operate. We'll see With history would tell you otherwise, but we'll see so wait and see approach But this is only the beginning. This is only the beginning. We're gonna see exactly how aggressive the new GM is and Getting players because obviously John Dorsey was super aggressive This dude made all the trades in the world The big sign all that good stuff. He wanted to assemble a powerhouse But again, like we talked about before you can have all these pieces in place But if the mind that's running all these pieces if the mind that's behind Putting this whole thing together if it ain't right then those pieces ain't gonna be able to do anything They're not gonna be able to perform up to standards so anyway for free agents just like just like that just just like that Browns they they starting and this is why NFL is the best cuz it never really stops The football aspect may stop but again, like I said, we get into the business aspect and this can be some of the most fun times Anyway, team Kiwi clean appreciate y'all. I love y'all and just like Carrie Demetrius Adarius and Kush I'm out


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This is Think Tech Hawaii, Community Matters here. Okay, we're back. We're live. It's the two o'clock clock. I'm Jay Fiedel. This is like about science. And I'm standing in for Ethan Allen, our chief scientist. And today we're talking to Shamanad. We have two faculty from Shamanad, tech faculty. One is Ryland Chong to my left and to his left, Mark Speck. They're both assistant professors at Shamanad. We like Shamanad a lot because Shamanad is out of the box. Shamanad thinks ahead. Shamanad is trying to be sensitive these days under Lynn Babington and Helen Turner to deal with the marketplace as it exists for jobs and kids and our community. So this is really important. And what they do is really important. So first, I love this question. Ryland, who are you? Well, I'm Dr. Ryland Chong. I'm born and raised here. Actually in Hawaii. And from Maui. And I graduated from Maui High School. I came to Shamanad. I did my computer science degree there. And I specialize in database and learning about data and how to query them and design databases. And from there, I was really interested in learning more about data. And what I learned about it was I got to protect myself. I have to be mindful. We have all this data and what we can do with it and how can I protect myself. So I went off to Purdue to pursue my PhD degree. And I was in the field of cybersecurity or the program I was specifically in is called information security. That way it taught me how to protect data, protect myself, protect if I had to work for a company or an organization. One goes with the other. Yeah. Data, security, all the same now, yeah? Yeah. And from after getting my PhD, I realized, you know, now I learned how to do databaseing and learn about data. I learned how to protect or secure data. The next step was how do you work with large data sets? How do you work with data sets that are messy? And so my next step was looking into data science. And I was looking for programs. And Shamanad, which is my alumni, said, hey, we're interested in doing a data science program. Would you want to pursue it? Sounds perfect. Yeah, it was just a perfect dream. And what's nice about Shamanad is that I get to work with brilliant faculty like Dr. Mark Speck. I get to work with Dean and Provost Helen Turner. And I love the vision and mission and goals of the leadership from President Babington to board of directors to even our faculty. Is this amazing? And what's unique about Shamanad is that we're not siloed in our divisions. We come together. I worked with the education department. And we all come together to move Shamanad forward. So this is a great opportunity. And I'm really grateful and humbled to be here. I've always found Shamanad to be good tone, good relations and all that. People friendly working together. I always found that. So before I get to you, Mark, I want to have two questions. unpack two questions. What is a large data set? What is that? How large is large? Is it 2,000 records, 5,000, 10,000? What is it? How big is big? I'll let Mark also answer because he has a lot of experience in the area. But it ranges. And there's no definitive concrete definition of what large data set could be. It could be terabytes. It could be just maybe a zillion records or some sort. We know that's large. Yeah. But there's different definitions. And so large meaning that it's not going to be your traditional address book. Right. So my dissertation was about 100 something records. Some would say that's really small. So large data, big data sets, there's different definitions. It's also fields, too. If I have a data set with 200 fields, that's beginning a little on the large side. And the other question is messy. What's a messy database? Messy database. So sometimes when you. That's everything out there. Basically. Not having fields. So it's more of a neat database. Right. But it's basically just sometimes you get data where. So I'll start with clean. Clean data sets is basically you have all the fields filled out and everything looks nice. Messy data sets is we're missing fields, missing values. Maybe they put the wrong values in. And that's what's considered messy. Makes it a great challenge to figure out how to put information in where there is no information or correct bad information. Mark, how much of what Rylin said you agree with? Well, if this is on the record, I agree with most of it. But tell us about yourself. I came here by way of New Jersey. I was working at Rutgers University. And then I came to UH to get my master's in microbiology. Microbiology? Yeah, yeah. I'm coming from the Life Science Center. And so that just that ended up turning into a PhD. And the majority of my work was informatics. Bioinformatics is we're working with a lot of genetic information that we're getting from experimentation. And so just always working with data sets. And even at Rutgers, I was working with genetic data sets. And working with those and understanding, OK, all these experiments that we're generating now are just creating loads of data. And so I would, after finishing my PhD, I was getting moved on from one data project to the next to the next, never actually doing experiments myself by getting stuff that other people worked on, helping them clean that up, analyze it, and get something useful out of it, and handing it back to them. So it was more like I became a utility in that sense. You mean you were helping other people? Yeah, and it was kind of fun because it's always working on something new. No, it's like you get kind of anxious if you work on something for like two years, three years, you want to move on. I get to work on something new after each project, right? After I finish that, what's the next thing? I can work on multiple things at once. And a lot of times you start seeing common patterns. People start needing the same kind of thing. It's data, right? And a lot of times it's data from a lot of different sources. And so it's never clean. It's not tidy like these like to say. It's the variables are named improperly. They're not ordered properly. You might have the variables as rows and some columns. Computers like to see things in certain ways and you've got to see, OK, what have you done to this? And how much work is it going to take me to make it usable, right? It's like 70% of your work. So from where I was coming from, it was from the life science field. And it's kind of been pushed in this direction. I mean, I've allowed myself to be pushed. It was a natural progression. In order to do the life sciences, you have to know about the data. Right. And then when you learn about the data, you can apply those rules to other sciences. Exactly. So it's kind of like a second career arc for me. And it's kind of interesting because I get to run into people like Rylan. And Helen Turner is just an amazing mind out there just coming up with these ideas and helping us think ahead. And then our new president, Lynn Bavington, she's very much into being responsive to what the community needs in terms of education and how Shamanad can respond to that. And I really appreciate it because they give us full access to them. It's easy for us to ask questions. And we don't have to go through intermediaries to ask, what's the path we need to take? Or throw an idea to them. They're very responsive to us. And in that way, Shamanad has been really good for this kind of degree path. The jury has a question. The jury's question is, you're only allowed to be judged. You can't be both. Been there, done that. The jury's question is, at your UH experience, you were involved in research, right? Yes. And you were examining data and making algorithms to fix it or get conclusions out of it, whatever. OK, now you're in Shamanad. It sounds to me like you're more in teaching. You're more in dealing with students. Was that part of the reason for the transition? Well, the work I do at Shaman, teaching is only a percentage of it. It's also about how you spend your time. Well, right now, it's been helping to create this curriculum, doing research. And then teaching might be between 15% to 20% of what I do. What I learned, I get to pass on to the students because it's emerging, right? And so it's been useful for us to design certain courses that are going to feed into this data science program. You going to teach them? We're going to teach some of them. We're not going to be the full faculty. It would be exhausting. OK, well, now we're really at the threshold of the new students. Yeah, but we are the first among two other faculty. You're the organizers of the whole degree, sort of. Right, right, because there's definitely things I'm not well suited to teach and other people are better suited. So I'd rather just stick to what I'm better suited teaching and let other people that are more expertise in those areas. Some of the more advanced mathematics and stuff like that, that we're going to require for them to understand. Absolutely. So I'd rather have a mathematician do that rather than myself. Yeah, but given your flexibility, maybe you'll learn that too. So it's not that you guys woke up one morning with this idea about data science and making a program out of it. The administration came up with that, am I right? And they called upon you to help create this whole program. And I guess it's undergraduate rather than graduate, although you do have graduate courses in technology and then a computer science. This is going to be undergraduate then? Specifically undergraduate for now. And then maybe in the future we can look at progressing to a graduate program. But right now it's just undergraduates. But however, we do have an MBA program that will be incorporating some of our curriculum in or courses in there. That's very interesting because the B stands for business, not science. The undergraduate program is a science program, but the B stands for making a science graduate into a business graduate. Correct. And the science aspect of that would be, you know, data science is not just looking at statistics or math. What's the research process? We do it in our everyday life, and that's part of the science aspect of it. We define a problem. Once we define and identify this problem, we do a literature review. And that could be as simple as shopping. We want to buy a shirt. What do we do? We go online and look at all the different types of shirts. And that's kind of like our literature review process. And then we, um... I do that on the internet all the time. My wife does it on Amazon, do you? Never mind. And then you design a study from what you've found in the literature review. You develop your hypotheses or research questions. And then you conduct the study. You collect the data, which is all overlapping into data science as well. So, you know, there's overlaps in what the science term, terminology means, and it can be incorporated in multiple fields, not just business. You can include it in environmental studies. So it's like giving them the tools necessary to be able to go into their interest range. So that's where part of the science comes from. Okay, so here we are on day one when the program opens. When is the program opening this year? Next year? 2019, we're going to start... This year? Yeah, it's fall. September, okay. Our goal is to get the first courses started in fall. Okay, and you should. You can. You must be recruiting people to join this. Right, right. I told you when we spoke on the phone, I really like to be part of this program. Oh, come around and audit or something. You know, stand by at the back. We also, we can talk about it a little bit later. We have a summer program that we'll be running as well. It's going to be like a four week crash course. Is that starting this summer? Yeah, it's a partnership we have with the Texas Advanced Coding Center. Oh, that's great, that's great. So they'll be coming over here and it's a four week program for about 25 students. Okay, those 25 now. That's camera one over there. And those 25 students are just behind, right behind camera one. Right. And it's day one. You know, you're welcome. You're giving him the welcoming speech. Okay, what do you say? I said, welcome to the future. Here's your data science route. You're standing next to him. What do you say? It's camera one. Well, I'm going to add my little twist, which is welcome to the family. And you know, we're going to have a fun time learning about data. And we're going to teach you everything we can possibly teach you to get you not only ready for your careers but also ready, you know, if they want to go to grad school or any type of opportunities. This helps in life sciences, yeah. And any interest they want to do, so.  And I'm one of the 25 or whoever, many are sitting in the room. What kind of courses? What are you going to, how are you going to divide up my time for me? Yeah, so it's, so when we developed and designed this curriculum or this program, we did it based on, first off, we have to do it based on our mission and values and goals from our leadership and the Marinus Ways at Shyamala University. And, but to also include the development from, you know, researching and talking to our industry partners, some of what other data science and data analytic schools are doing. And from all these factors that we collected, we divided it into about five different areas or components. The first one is, we're going to teach you and have you master the basics of data science. This includes the introduction of data science, give you kind of a boot camp course. You're assuming no prerequisites and no significant. Right, we're assuming you don't, you're just a blank straight out of high school. Straight out of high school. You're becoming this freshman, yes. I do play games, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you can. So we have the basics. We're going to show you what data sciences is about and get you excited about it. The second step will be the advanced courses. So once we get you excited, we teach you the tools in the basic areas. The goal for us is to get you excited and be able to explore it in the advanced realm. Not just to make it like a challenge, like how we hear in advanced courses is like, wow, it's going to be harder or it's going to be more rigorous or it's going to have those components but we're going to look at it from a perspective. Let's explore it. And then so we have those two areas and then the third area or the third component is the design of this curriculum is basically based on project oriented, meaning that we have a capsule at the end and right throughout the process of getting their degree and taking the basic and advanced courses, they're going to be building their projects from the get-go. Who decides what projects? Well, we will work on it with them because part of this is that we're going to have them in turn, they made during the summer at that time. Oh, with companies. Yeah, yeah, with the stakeholders. And then in that way they can get introduced to what's actually out in the wild. What's the real stuff that's going on? Because we don't want to just come up with some artificial scenario because that's not going to be true to what they're going to see. Don't forget my suggestion about the traffic controls. Oh, right, yeah. This would be a real... We'll talk to City County about that one. The contribution, yeah. Listen, Jason is over here. They'll let you in the door, it's a gold mine. So the question I want to put to you actually, Mark, is what's the hands-on aspect here? Do I walk into a room of lecture? Do I walk into a room of computers? Do I walk into a room of modular discussions? How do you teach this stuff?  Well, it'll be groups, and it's going to depend on the particular course because it's not just being able to understand and rate certain kinds of code and do mathematics because when you're in this kind of field, you don't have to understand ethics. You don't have to understand what is the full life cycle of a data set. What is important for the people that you're doing the analysis for, right? So you have to learn how to talk to people. You have to learn how to explore ideas and then utilize what you've heard from somebody, be able to go back to them and be iterative in your process. So you can't get too much ownership over what you come up with, right? Because what your people want aren't necessarily what you think that they want, right? So you have to be able to interview people and say, okay, what's your problem? Show me what you have, right? And they have to learn how to do this. And then it's like, well, let me see the data that you have because it might not be appropriate for what you're asking. And if you might say, okay, but it sounds like you might actually want this and let me show you why. So you have to have some form of soft skills to be able to talk to people. So it's not going to just be about this technical heavy type training, which is important and what we have built into the curriculum, but some of the soft skills stuff, it's going to be no discussion. You have to work with people. And most of the time they're going to be working groups because you're never often working on your own. Right, okay, very valuable. I get three words out of that that I'd like to discuss right after the break. One is the life cycle of data. Hmm, not to know about that. And the interactive quality. I like to know how that works. And I like to know about the practicum aspect, design thinking of talking to your clients, so to speak, even if you're a student, talking to your client and trying to come up with the real problem instead of the artificial theoretical one. Right after this break, we're really going to drill down. You'll see this Mark Speck and to his left, Rylan O'Chang, yeah. Yeah, we're coming right. From Chaminade, we'll be right back and we'll hear more about the data science program. So if you have somebody in high school who's going to college, if you yourself, you're in high school, this is something you really have to hear. We'll be right back. Aloha, my name is Mark Shklav. I am the host of Think Tech Hawaii's Law Across the Sea. Law Across the Sea is on Think Tech Hawaii every other Monday at 11 a.m. Please join me where my guests talk about law topics and ideas and music and Hawaii Anna all across the sea from Hawaii and back again. Aloha. Hi, I'm Dave Stevens, the host of Cyber Underground every Friday here at 1 p.m. on ThinkTechHawaii.com And then every episode is uploaded to the Cyber Underground, that library of shows that you can see of mine on YouTube.com. And I hope you'll join us here every Friday. We have some topical discussions about why security matters and what could scare the absolute bejesus out of you. If you just try to watch my show all the way through. Hope to see you next time on Cyber Underground. Stay safe. I told you we came back and we came back, right? That's Rylan O'Chang and Mark Speck from Shamanad developing a data science program which sounds very interesting. And so you pointed out to me in the break there were certain things I missed already. Tell me what we need to cover right now before we go any further. Oh, so we thought it would be useful to show some of our brochure work on the different degree paths that we have available. The first would be the BS in data science. And this will be available on our, we have a website called data science.shamanad.edu. Data science.shamanad.edu. Yes, okay. And then this, I maintain the website so this will be published on that website so all this information will be made available there. And what this shows is what is our philosophy for going and following this coursework and where we think it will take you. And what are the aspects that we're gonna be touching on? We're not trying to make computer scientists, we're trying to make data savvy people, right? And these people can be- This is actually much more useful in the 21st century. Yeah, so we want people to be comfortable taking the data science courses but also be aware that you can apply this to any kind of career, right? So we want data competent people who can understand how to use data, ask the right questions or ask people who know how to do certain things and understand what they're getting back, right? There's also other programs that we're gonna be offering that we're working on is, so this is our BS curriculum. Curriculum. Yeah, and so you see it's a 58 credit load. And just like I mentioned earlier, we have the basics, the advanced and then we have our capstone project that students are gonna be taking and throughout the whole process they're gonna be building their capstone and also gaining experience. Capstone, what's a capstone? Capstone is a research project at the end of their... This was in, what, last year? Yeah, it was in their last year. So it's like a culmination of everything you've learned. But as Ryan said, has talked about in the past is that we almost want them to start working on it as they start, so it's like their baby, right? They're working on it. They're adding parts to it. Actually, that's a great, doesn't it? Yeah, so they're adding parts to it as they learn about things. When they get introduced to the different data sets they might already have an idea of what they wanna do. We want them to be able to work on it as they go, and the capstone's kind of the culmination of all that. And I think they'll give them something almost like a portfolio of work that they've done when they leave the work. Sure, for the resume, don't you say? Yeah, they'll turn chips and they'll say, okay, this is something that produced. It's like writing down your dissertation. It defines you. Yeah, and so look, this is what I've discovered. This is the best way to sequence our traffic lights at the intersection so we don't waste fuel and get people upset because they're sending traffic for too long. Yeah, it's called the J Theorem. And this is our workable theorem and this is how it's gonna work. Yeah, and it's gonna give the students their experience that sometimes jobs ask for, that one year experience, two year experience, they're all gonna have that experience. And for instance, if you decide to hire one of our students, you're gonna be familiar with the student. You're gonna be able to understand what to ask for from the student and they're gonna be up and running into either your organization, your company, or even if they want to go grad school. So it's, like Mark says, their portfolio, their direct access and opportunity to be interviewed right on the spot, which is working with our mentors or experts. What I get out of this is it's not just doing the fine work, the embroidery, dealing with small issues or at least code as something that's on your test that you drill down and focus on. You're dealing with big issues. Big issues. Society and general data sets. And in this program, I'm guessing you can correct me, but you learn to have confidence in dealing with the large stuff. So you're walking in the doors of a hospital, for example, and they have thousands of patients and thousands of beds and thousands of medical reports and diagnostic laboratory, whatnot. And you're confident. You can wrap your mind around all of that. You know how to put that in rows and columns. You know how to search. You know how to find. You know how to analyze. This is much bigger than just writing code. Yeah, well, that's an interesting segue because one of our focus areas is healthcare analytics. And we also will be offering MBA, working through the business school, that will help, you know, if you want to get into business analytics or healthcare analytics, they'll be offering an MBA in just healthcare management, but also we want to be able to offer them an MBA in science, technology, and innovation with a healthcare concentration, right? So, and other, there could be other fields, but you know, as an example. That's a good example. Yeah, so, you know, 20% of the most domestic product is in healthcare. Yeah, so we're not just limited to our department. You know, in terms of this research field, we want to be able to reach out to other departments and businesses as a really good partner for that kind of thing. So are you training kids to, I shouldn't say kids. Young adults. Literally, learners. Young adults. Students. Are you training them to work here, to stay here? Or are you training them for the world? Well, where do you like to point them on this program? Probably where they find where their mission's gonna be, but we hope that a lot of them will stay because we know that there's a small pool of people that can actually do this kind of work. Will you help get jobs? Well, that's where we're hoping that our internships will lead to. Right. That's an automatic connection. Right, and our mentorships and through the whole process of them working with expert in the field that this is the direct line. This is a hard one, but you can give me a range if you want. So I finished the program. I have my BA. I'll ask you about the MBA in a minute. My BS, so sorry. And I walk out into the community, whether it's here or the mainland. What kind of salary can I expect to make? Oh boy. Give me a range. It's okay. From 80,000 to six figures. I mean, it's a very enticing area. It depends on where you get into, you know? But yeah, he's right. I've seen anywhere between 80 to 120 within that range.  And that's the starting, yeah, yeah. Wow, maybe I'll actually matriculate that. So what about cybersecurity? Where does that fit in on us? Is this one of those pieces on the curriculum, or could this be a significant feature for a given graduate? So basically it's a compliment. That's how we are looking at it. It's in the development work stage. So the idea with this is to, so since they learn about data analytics and how to use the tools, but we also wanted them to be mindful about how to protect themselves. So cyber attacks is growing on an incredible scale to protect their own work effectively. And the data they're... And the organization they're gonna be working for. So it's taking them beyond the technical aspect, but also looking at it from a very, like the social, the economic, and political perspective. And from a micro level protecting themselves to the macro, to other macro levels of the business that they're working on. And also maybe the state of Hawaii or the states that they're working on, or even the country if they would decide to work for a government agency. If I were an employer or government acting as an employer, I would want nothing less. I would want somebody to protect my data. And it's more and more important to me. To me, this whole thing, if I had to pick one word out of this whole discussion with you both before the show and now, I would say it's relevance to the job market, relevance to the world in which we live, relevance to the economy, the technology. It's creating relevant graduates who are in touch. But I haven't forgotten the question. I wanted to, yeah. One more thing. We are offering scholarships, which is probably pretty important to mention. We have funding through an SFI use grant and that will offer a certain level of scholarship for taking the BS degree in certain fields. And also there's a, and that will fund up to 10,000 a year in tuition and other services. And also the four year guarantee that Shyamada gives for degree. And we also have a whole scholarship, which is granted to us through commandment of schools, which is another fully funded tuition. And they can use that not just for data science, but it is one of the applicable fields that they can go into for their scholarships. This is great. And that, and another NSF grant that we have is called NSF Includes, which is helping to fund our summer institute program, which is four weeks. So the students that come to take that is also fully funded. So how many people are gonna be in this program when you open it up? Well, we would be happy to just start with like 15. That would be a good number for us to start with. That way, because it's new, and so we're gonna have to adjust. But it's also not so small where it's underwhelming. Because you know, diversity of minds, yeah, yeah, and we want it to be successful. So if we get a high level of interest, I mean, we're heading in the right path. We're giving students what they want. We have to serve the students as well as the community. How can I find out more? How could I apply? Where do I go? Okay, so if you go to shamana.edu, the different courses that you can take are available there. The data science program has a hub page that we use, data science.shamana.edu, and that covers most of our data science information, and that will also include information about the degree pass in the summer institutes. So if I come into the program like this, I will stay with my cohort, so to speak, throughout my time at Shamana, right? Yeah, it's like a family. I'll meet the people, and I'll be with them, and we'll study together, and hold on. But it's not necessarily, we haven't necessarily designed it as a cohort experience, not like a nursing program, but if you're all coming in the first time at the same time, then yes, it's gonna be that kind of experience by default, yeah. Yeah, that's great. So back to my question, and we have to end after this as we're out of time, is you spoke about databases that have a life databases that are interactive and databases, I forget the third point, but you gave characterizations databases, you made them sound like they were living beings. Yeah, so what's nice about this program is that it's not just looking at statistics and analytics and visualizations, there's other realms, and these realms are like machine learning, artificial intelligence, right? But I do wanna note, and with our students that it's not just learning the technical side of how to build these great products and solutions, but to be mindful about what they can do, not only the benefits that it can bring to an organization or to themselves, but also the harms and the groups that it might affect. So this is, I mean, this is, there's a lot of things happening with this program, but we're both excited to be the faculty for it. Well, I mean, it strikes me that, it's sorta like when you came over from the life sciences, you brought with you a sense of computer science and data science, but it strikes me that if I wrap my arms around a database, usually of people, but it could be straight scientific things too, if I wrap my arms around a given database of human activity, okay, and then I move on to another enterprise, and there's another phenomenon of human activity there. I will be much better prepared because in understanding this living, breathing, organic database concept, which I'm gonna learn in your program, then I will be able to deal with the living, breathing, organic databases in any aspect of human conduct, and that's really relevant to the 21st century, you know? Our last question is what's the connection with this and design thinking out of Stanford? You spoke before about how the students are trained to find out what the real problem is. Right, so you- They don't accept the superficial analysis, they engage with the client about what the client really needs. Well, that's where the critical thinking comes in, right? So you have to listen to what people are telling you, but you also have to see what it is that they're looking at, and try to understand where's the disconnect, or where's the connect, and that can take time, you have to be patient, and so that the design part comes in iteration. You're not gonna nail it in the first round. I mean, if you do, that's great. I mean, iteration was the other word, yeah. Yeah, so it's iterative, it's patience, it's communicating, and being able to look at what they have and see what the limitations are of what they have. What they might get access to is also important, right? So okay, you have this, but can you give us something like this? And also, no, okay, it's never gonna be perfect, the data is never gonna be perfect, it's never gonna be tidy, it's never gonna be- Humanity is never gonna be tidy, perfect. And so, no, this is the part that we want people to learn, which is just as important as actually crunching the numbers. Wow, it's an expander, a mind expander, yeah. So I mean, what I get from what you say is that this helps you think, and that goes beyond any particular discipline just help you think. Aware and be mindful, and yeah, it's an incredible stuff. Well, good luck on the program. Thank you. I'd like you to see it, I think it's very important to our community. Thank you, Roland. Thank you, Jay. Appreciate it coming down. Thank you, Jay. Well, I really appreciate it coming down. Good work for some of us. Thank you. Aloha.


Hello and welcome to News Clicks Show Mapping Fortlines where we discuss major geopolitical issues around the world. Today we're going to be talking about one of the oldest issues in Asia which is the Indo-China border dispute, it's as old as the 50s and 60s and the last couple of months there have been some major incidents, there was an incident, there was a skirmish in June in which at least 20 Indian soldiers died and some casualties were recorded in China also. Again over the past couple of weeks there has been some escalation, shots have been fired on the Himalayan border. The latest news is that on Thursday the foreign ministers of these two countries met in Moscow on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization meeting and they reached a consensus, they reached an agreement and released a statement with five points on how to de-escalate the situation. So now there's a lot of discussion and there is a lot of hope as well that this may mark a moment in which tensions may come down. So we're going to talk more about this and we have with us Prabir Prakas. Prabir, thank you so much for joining us. So as I said the ministers met on Thursday and just before that a couple of weeks ago the defense ministers of the countries had also met and this is the statement that came out in some ways is good because it talks about the need to de-escalate how it's not, the situation is not good for both countries, how earlier agreements and earlier statements, the spirit of that on P should be followed on. But of course it's still unclear if these are just words right now or if there's going to be any concrete implementation. So how do you see the statement and does it lay out a roadmap? Well it doesn't lay out a roadmap, that's very clear. It only has essentially broad positions and the need for countries not to fight each other, reach an agreement and follow on what when earlier President she and Prime Minister Modi had met, follow on that course. So that sort of is saying that we should get perhaps return to the earlier path that we had and this is some way a diversion. That's the broad sense of the statement that I think we should get. What it does not mention and that's important. It does not talk about a return to status quo anti. That has been India's position earlier and it doesn't also talk about a line of actual control and I think both these points need to be registered for what they are. One of this is that as you know and I think everybody knows unless you of course follow the Indian media who sort of kept silent on this, there is no line of actual control which both sides agree on and which has been fixed on a map. So as a consequence when we talk of a line of actual control and when the Chinese talk of line of actual control, quite often they are talking of different lines of control. So therefore talking of return to status quo anti based on the original line of actual control is in some sense, not recognizing what is the issue on the ground. Why does India do it? Because it says my line of actual control is the actual line of control. And therefore you should return to my interpretation of the line of actual control. Now the point again is and this we have discussed earlier between the two positions. It has always been true that there has been an area which both sides have petrified both sides have had in summer, winter is much more difficult. The petrol these areas and therefore they claim that this is as per their line of control. But the reality is it means there are undemarcated areas where clearly both sides do not have fixed positions or fixed cans or fixed posts. And they have been patrolling these areas and the large part of the current conflict is actually trying to set up permanent positions and it's not only the Chinese, we seem to also have done it. This has been what the international press has said. So we don't really know the truth of this. The argument has been that if we look at the pictures, the satellite pictures, we have used the satellite pictures from one particular organization in Australia. Which again, the provenance of all of this is open to question. But the point is that there are similar pictures which you seem to indicate. Again, by Western agencies, not Chinese agencies, Western agencies, we'd say that India has also changed the status quo and in the sense that areas which might have petrol, we're now buildings of permanent installations or buildings of permanent infrastructure. Now, nobody knows the truth or the falsity of these claims because not nobody but we cannot verify for the falsity or correctness of these claims. So we let that pass. But what we do know is there is a large area which currently is getting settled by both sides trying to build infrastructure and positions over there. And the last Indian statements regarding the Chosul sector where we had this clash of the shots after 1962 or I think said later, 45 years is what the Indian papers seem to say. That we have fired shots and been fired 45 years after the last round. I think in 80s, there was an incident of some time. Now, if you take that into account, if you see what is being said, it is said that India actually took over the heights, the range, facing finger forward on the Pong Song, So Lake. And therefore, it seems to be something again, which we have occupied, which we felt fell under our line of actual, within our line of actual control. But till now, we didn't seem to have installations over that. Now, we have been also saying that about the Chinese. They're from finger eight, they've come up to finger four. This is something that should not have been done and so on. But the point is it does seem to indicate both sides have been trying to take over what would be called the heights or the ridges in this area because that gives you strategic command of the surrounding area. So leaving that out, the interesting point that emerges in this discussion is there is no mention of status quo ante and there is no mention about the line of actual control. Both these have been left to future discussions. The question is whether future discussions will take place or will it get into the freeze that we have currently? Both sides strengthening their infrastructure on their side, interpretation of the line of actual control, without engaging with the others. So hopefully there will be no future engagements after this talks and they will be able to resolve it by senior officers on the ground or if need be putting it bouncing the ball up, getting more senior officers or the political leadership to intervene. But it does seem to indicate that both sides have realized that at the moment, let's not go further. It seems to be. So the fact they met, there must have been preliminary discussions and some kind of an agreement arrived beforehand that there is a need to resolve this temporarily. The degree to which it will be resolved, we have to see. But there is a need to at least resolve this temporarily. I don't think this meeting would have taken place without that head over being done, first with the defense ministers and then now with the foreign ministers. And the second part of it, I think that's also important, that unlike the past, where each side has issued a separate statement, this is a joint statement. Now that itself, it's how the things are conducted is also important. So if we take small comfort from the fact there is a joint statement, it would seem to indicate that both sides do want now to settle the issue. For the Indian side, even more than the Chinese, there is also the other element of the fact that we are not as prepared as the Chinese in terms of building infrastructure at the Ladakh border. So if you have to position 25,000 to 30,000 troops, which it seems to be what we are now planning to do, it means a huge investment that has to be made both in terms of building very quickly infrastructure, which means we have to import a lot of prefabricated stuff and post it there. Also, we need fuel to be heated if we want to be functional. Without fuel, we can't survive the winter there, very clearly. And we also need then also heated workshops, because things will go wrong. So there's a whole bunch of things that we need to have to do, and we need to do it very quickly. As I said, posting 25,000 to 30,000 troops at those heights. And these are formidable heights. We're looking at a Siachen glacier equivalent scenario across the entire line of control on the Ladakh side. So that's not a minor issue. So all of that will have to be done. Even the more than the Chinese soon, it is really the weather which is going to turn our enemy. Because as we know, this is minus 20, 25 degrees for the next three months post October. So that is a rather daunting scenario that is going to come about. So I think India has that pressure on it also to normalize relations or at least reach a certain kind of status quo. And also, of course, the Chinese have the issue of the Indian market, market access we have been retaliating in this way. So let's hope that all these issues will be further discussed. And we shall see some kind of normalcy return between India and China. Let's accept the fact that it's been set back decades. So whether it will continue to be de-freeze, like what is going to descend on the Ladakh border right now. Or is it something that is going to lead to at least restoration, if not of status quo and of some kind of normalcy between the two countries? So like you said, a key component here has to do with what actually happens on the ground with respect to the militaries, the discussions between the officers, a staged de-escalation process maybe. But I want to take a look at the larger regional scenario also. So we do know that both countries at this point of time for different reasons cannot have a kind of conflict. China is facing a wide variety of pressures from the United States in terms of the trade war in terms of other kinds of assaults on the tech sector. India on the other hand is going through a COVID economic crisis of unprecedented proportions. But nonetheless at least we do know that in India, there has always been a section of the establishment which has been far more hawkish towards China, which is pushed for a conflict like situation. So at this point, how do you see the regional strategic implications of this conflict? Is it likely to, are they likely to play a role in, say, furthering this contradiction or are they likely to contribute in de-escalation? Well, this is of course looking into a crystal ball done of this. So it's very difficult to see which way it will go. What has happened at least is the decision is not being left now to some commanders on the ground who by engagement which both sides do not want, could lead to a further escalation. That I think is a very, very welcome measure. And I'm not going to say who's at fault, who is not because these are really not the issues. Any human being at any point of time can make a mistake. But these are two countries which are both nuclear armed, which have certainly a military size which is significant. So war at those heights who wins or loses is not the issue. There's no question. Both would lose. Who lose more is the only question that is there. I think that's a very, very welcome issue that both sides have agreed that they now need to talk more seriously. If we read the Chinese paper, they have said we don't trust the Indians, because they've said this a number of times, but they don't agree to, they don't implement what they have agreed. But I guess that's a complaint that could come up from this side as well. So I'm not going to get into this kind of jingoistic statements. The Indian media, if you look at it, we should have gone to war at least five times by now. So Indian media goes to war against Pakistan in the morning and against China in the evening is what is to be said in this kind of times. Of course, at the moment there seem to be war against Bollywood and against the film also in Karnataka. That seems to be also media pastime. But leaving those issues out, what you said is the larger geo-strategic issues. I think in this both sides have a much bigger stake than what might be seen superficially. China is economically at the moment, not in the position that India is. It is actually relatively stronger. It is the only major economy which has registered growth in the last quarter. And that's because we've been able to control the pandemic, which almost no big economy has been successful in that as yet, particularly countries like United States, India, Brazil, for example. So this puts China at a stronger economic hold position regarding with respect to all countries, not only India, but it is also true because the Indian economy has taken a huge hit in the last quarter. The largest fall we've ever had is the largest fall among the big G20 countries. Plus, if we add up the informal sector fall, which has really not been counted in this fall, and India's informal sector is a big contributor, then probably our fall is somewhere near 35 to 40%. So that's a huge hit we have taken. So this is not the right time for us to go to war. On top of that, the COVID-19 continues unchecked. As we know, numbers are rising, will soon cross 100,000. And at this rate, we'll probably overtake the United States in the total number of cases, probably in a month or so. So we are in a very, very bad situation, both economically and pandemic-wise. And as we know, we have discussed a number of times in NewsClick. Unless you control the epidemic, you're not going to get your economy back. So that's the bottom line over here. And the fact that this is not the best time to go to war for two other reasons. One is, of course, the condition of the economy we've discussed and all of that. But also because of the fact that you have now subzero temperatures coming up. And this is certainly not the time that anybody can get into war on the normal front. So I think both ways, weather-wise, economy-wise, this is certainly not the time for India also to get into war. And we are, as we said, also for winter, we are less prepared than China is because China has been in Tibet for a much longer time. And therefore they have the preparations much more advanced in terms of how to meet the winter. So I think this is not a good time for India to get into war. And you said what you said is right. China is already fighting not only the economic war, trade war, as it is said to be, but also a tech war. And the war against Huawei has been extended in various ways. The various new restrictions have been put. Other companies that cannot also use American equipment and trade with Huawei. That's a band that's been put. And also the SMIC, the other chip manufacturing company, which is the 10th largest chip, no, it's the fifth largest. The fifth largest chip manufacturing company in the world, which is in China. That is being threatened with Huawei like sanctions. And if that happens, then they will also have a lot of issues. So the question that arises is, is this the right time for China to also open a front against India? The answer is no. So both countries have strong reasons why they should not go to war or should normalize their relations. India has already put a lot of restrictions on Chinese capital from coming into India. Now, Chinese capital was instrumental in a lot of the startups which need capital in India. So that will not happen. For instance, if you say, for instance, Paytm. In fact, it was funded by venture capital from, I think, Alibaba. Similarly, Tencense has also been investing in India. So both Alibaba and Tencense have made a lot of investments in Indian startups. That sector is not going to get money. Also, that fact is that we have also now under conditions which we do not apply to any other country in the world, we have applied to Chinese apps. So we said they have been taking data out to their servers. Therefore, we are banning them. Not that we are trying to tell them to localize their servers in India. Just outright ban them. And the ban that has been extended has been actually a Korean game which Tencense was really implementing, owning, and so on. But all of this aside, this means that there is a loss of revenue and loss of future revenue in China that is going to accrue. So therefore, if this happens for China, that's also an economic future hit. Not current hit. Current hit, it doesn't make that much of a difference. But it could be a big future hit for their companies. And it will also leave the Indian market therefore much more open to American capital, which is what China would also not like in this current context of a trade war, tech war that they're having. So I think that is also to be seen that China would like to normalize relations. But now the normalizing of relations is not only unfreezing the border, which is one part of it, that at least the whole thing should be such that we go back to the state that we were in, that the stalemate should not lead to further clashes. Things should go back to a more peace posture. So to say this engagement on both sides, which are serious and no further shouting matches to fisticuffs or to firing off shots, all of that. But does it mean that there is no economic normalization that takes place between India and China? I think that Indian government has to keep in mind that if there has to be normalization in the border, the Chinese expectation would also be normalization of economic relationships. And that's something that I think would also figure in the talks that would happen. So I think India's geostrategic answer is that going to American camp does not help. I think they have realized, look at the map would have convinced them that America is not really very close to either India or China. Therefore, if anything happens to the Himalayas and borders, they're unlikely to be very important in this scenario. It's also important that Russia has played this role, that they have made it possible for a line of communication to remain open between India and China. So geostrategically, I think this is also an important issue that it's not the United States who is determining what's happening in the world. The other players also there. And Russia, we saw in Syria earlier. We have seen with Turkey earlier, even now with Turkey. And you can also see between India and China. Russia is acceptable as a via media for setting up meetings. It doesn't participate on them. It does not do as the United States does. Act as if everybody is under their sovereign rule and they can bash heads together and tell people what to do. That's what it tried to do when the 1962 war took place. And India sought American assistance. And the result was that they said, well, in the Kashmir, you have to do ABCD. After which India really decided to go back to non-alignment. So I think this is the other issue that strategically India has to realize. And I think this is a realization even Mr. Jay Shankar, who's as Indian foreign minister, who's very close to the United States throughout his life, I think is also beginning to realize that India is too big a country to become a junior partner geo-strategically to even United States, which may be the biggest player in the world today in geo-strategic terms. But it is nevertheless a failing weakening power with very little ability to help other countries, their economies or any other way. In fact, what it demands is now rent. Essentially, it says give me money for ABCD. You have to open your market to me. You have to give me patents in India for my ABCD drug companies. So all of this is not an equal game. And I think increasingly Indian establishment will begin to understand that the United States, you're never going to be an equal player. You're only going to be subservient. And if you don't, if you stand up to them, then you're still going to be hit with hammer. Even if you do go to them and say, I'm willing to be your partner, in spite of even after that, you will have to pay in order to remain a partner. So that kind of relationship I think is increasingly becoming clear to India is not going to serve India's long-term interest as well. But let's face it, as Ambassador Bhadrakumar said to me the other day, there's a huge lobby inside the Indian government, inside the policy establishment, which wants to be subservient to India. And this has been true right from the beginning, right from Nehru's days. And there has been this line, this lobby which has operated. And that was one of the reasons that in 50s, we had supported the Tibetan insurrection as we know, which led finally to Dalai Lama escaping into India. And that was at the behest of the Americans. Those are not things that I'm saying. Those are things with the American officers have written books. America, there's a history of writing books after they were retired. And you get bestsellers, a lot of money, name known and so on. And all these books are now available to show what was the CIA's role in the insurrection in Tibet in the 50s. So that is what Ambassador Bhadrakumar was speaking about the other day in our discussion news click. So if you take all the into account, I think maybe it is time has come to India to realize it's a big country. And it has to play an independent role in the world, not as either enemy of one or the subservient, their power to another. Absolutely. Thank you so much for being here for talking to us. That's all we have time for today. Keep watching news click.


Season and it's heavy bar time. And lots of people ask questions. What do you do? What weight should you use? What are the benefits of growing with heavy bars? We're gonna talk about it in this video, so check it out. It's Eric Johnson from Airtate Throws Nation, and in today's YouTube video, we are going to talk about heavy bar training. Now it happens to be the end of the day because we're beating the heat here in Arizona, but we're heading into that fall time and the sun's changing, all that good stuff. And that also means off season. And so what we start to do is we immediately start to think about sport-specific strength and we wanna start feeling different positions. And now is when we have that long window of time to really work on a lot and we've posted up a few things here on our Instagram regarding heavy bars. And so a lot of people ask the question, how do you do it? What sizes and all that kind of stuff. And that's what we're gonna talk about today. So today I'm joined by my new discus ace James Plummer and we are going to be demonstrating. He's gonna be showing some of the bars we're gonna go through and we'll talk about that. So real quick, one of the things we do with heavy bars, we go from about two kilos. We use that as the heavier end for like female throwers, that would be the oversized overweight, but we'll still throw them because the bar, how you hang onto it and how you feel it makes you change how you feel the throw. So the idea here is enough resistance to slow the positions down, force some correction and also develop some strength and that's what we're doing. Okay, so we're gonna start out. James again will do a pre-block. He's gonna do an easy throw. It won't be super hard but he's gonna set his angle. So we're setting our stack. That's what we refer to in our system. So everything's lined up and then he's gonna wind flat because we're doing a pillar six throw and then we're gonna just have him take it out. He's gonna activate the right side, the lower body. The block leg is already engaged and then that's gonna just require timing up the block arm and having the hip come all the way through. Okay, go ahead. What that bar will help do is the added resistance and the way it has to be held. We're gonna be able to create nice stretch reflex and that's gonna be able to set that double arm, the shoulder arm separation, the double separation that we see in the disc is that we don't see in the shot. All right, so what James is gonna do now, we're gonna go into what we refer to as our modified wheel. So this is a half turn. Again, one of the things we teach in the throwing chain reaction is how we're going to set everything up, right? So it's the sequence and where his hips are in relation to how he's loaded on the legs. Everything's generally pretty good. I'm gonna have him move his hips back just a touch more and you'll notice that brings the chest forward and that more engages the core and it's gonna allow him to move on top of the right leg. So go ahead, he's gonna set it up and you're gonna notice the push and the idea is to continue moving all the way through the delivery with the added resistance. So he's gonna go, there we go and we're trying to feel, again, the bar. Now you're gonna notice what he's doing well is that what we've already been starting to work on is training is where the block arm is and one of the things the bar helps you do with that extra weight and it's not the implement, you can't turn through it. You feel how to kind of stop and how to feel that blocking gauge and how the delivery side is gonna continue to push out. So that was one of the things we're looking at and that's, again, one of the benefits of using the heavy bar. There's a whole bunch of stuff and, again, if you're interested or you don't understand our system or some of our things, we have a free mini course on rotational throws and you grab that in the link in the description below in this video. And one of the things that's really beneficial to the heavy bar is that it really forces to feel what we refer to as pillar two, that shift over and if you're collapsing, you'll feel how the bar's gonna take over and that's one of the things that we really like. While it's a strength specific, it's extremely sport specific to throw something overweight, right? But it also really requires you to do it right and so you're naturally gonna slow down your positions because of the added weight but also because of how the bar is forcing you to move and it's going to make you, again, feel positions and feel mistakes and that's another thing. It's providing another layer of awareness of what you're doing technically. So what we're gonna do is have James do a full throw. I'll back up out of the way. Really is allowing him to feel that position of how he's gonna move this way and keep this back and move his hips. That hip will collapse. It's easier to kind of fall in whereas the bar kind of forces you to feel how we're gonna be creating that movement around and that's a really important thing. Okay, so James is gonna take one more throw.  I'm gonna have him increase the speed just a little bit. He sets his pillar one. He goes to two, three and we're trying to work on his timing and that kind of thing and that's where the heavy bar really helps the athlete feel how to get that center of mass shifted as we, so we can move into the throw. Okay, here we go. Again, you'll notice again from here, from the side angle and from here, you'll notice again how we're trying to get him around here and these are the things that we're gonna be retraining and kind of making more efficient in his throwing motion. How much do you notice that it makes you aware of positions? A lot more aware. Once you have something overweight in your hand, it really forces you to feel all the different positions because everything's longer. You can't just manipulate it, pull on it, shorten it. Everything has to stay long and in the correct position.  So that's a good point. That's from the thrower's mouth, some key things he was talking about and that's one of the things we really like about the bar. What we always talk about when anybody throws the bar for the first time, if you're too active with the upper body and you're not staying long like James just talked about, you'll throw the bar off the sector this way, you'll throw it off this way. The bar will always win. It forces you to kind of with the extra weight by the fact that the bar is long and we're holding it, it's maximizing the lever, right? And it's increasing the radius, which is really important to feel that. And this is one of the things that I like, again, that you wouldn't get when you're holding a ball. The ball weight will kind of facilitate that to an extent, but the bar can really stretch and you can allow that pec to stay a little bit more relaxed. Whereas a ball, everything's gonna kind of tighten up to hold it in your hand. Whereas when you're switching here, it's gonna make a big difference. So that's basically just a real quick insight into how you use it.  Again, we have some more videos coming out on throwing progressions and drill progressions and that kind of stuff coming soon. So again, hopefully you liked this video. If you did, give us a thumbs up, hit the subscribe button. If you have anything else you'd like to see, comment below and we will see you on the next video. Be sure to check out our next videos. Be sure to subscribe. Visit our website for free videos. Click the links below. We have links to our free mini course. 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