Hello everybody and welcome to another hobby cheating Q&A live So What is this? Well, this is where we get together for about an hour and I answer all of your hobby related questions Hopefully it's catching up here in just a moment. It looks like it's taking a little start. There we go So at any rate Yeah, basically over here on let's see it'd be over my this shoulder. I think that sounds right Here's some comments and questions and stuff like that. So you drop in whatever questions you've got and I answer them. It's pretty much that easy All right, so Hope everybody's if you're here in the States where it's Thanksgiving, I hope everybody's having a wonderful holiday a wonderful and safe holiday If you're somewhere else in the world, well, then I hope you're having a wonderful Thursday and or Friday depending on what Day it is where you are But today what we're gonna do is we're just gonna go ahead and drop in whatever questions you've got I do these try to do these about once a month. I was a little remiss last month. I apologize for that and We're going to get them all answered. So get out all your best hobby questions We'll play stump the chump here to see if there's anything you can you can ask that I can't give an easy answer to I guess But I'm here to help. So whatever it is that you've got that whatever hobby related questions been Burning in your mind. Now is the time And yes as Anthony said this where we talked events without having to wait for Tom or watch he tries to form an answer instead for two minutes Yeah, I agree. That's that's very on brand for Tom But yeah, it's just I'm just enjoying a nice quiet day. I finished up that terrain I was working on from last night and now I'm just working on my converted Minorly converted I guess I'm only trying to do a head swap. So I don't know that counts But I'm I'm working on my Lord on Carcadrack as a test model for my For my upcoming expansion of heat nights that I'm very excited about Okay Hi Vince any advice for painting hair braids like the mind stealer Sphinx has mine always turns out looking metal. Thanks Sure, so yeah, I painted the mind stealer and painted lots of those kinds of braids are very common The key with them is to create the light dark light Sort of thing and to have nice thin strands So separate but obvious strands just like you can see on the side of my head where I still have some hair I had a little bit left there you know, you can see the individual stranding of my hair, right and so The concept is it's much the same as if you've watched my how to paint white hair video It's the same sort of concept, but it's grabbing a really, you know fine tipped brush and just really doing like repeated Strokes of slightly increasing colors one thing I'll say is that In general you want to make sure with especially with braids It tends to look better if the light gathers near the top of the braid and then the bottom of the braid is a dark shadow So you've got this wonderful like light in a V pattern On the top that then comes down in a shadow that then is another light V and then shadow and so on if you look at the Minds dealer that I did that's how I did it. That's how I do most dwarven braids and stuff like that It's it creates this very pleasing repeated contrast effect. So there you go Let's see SP happy Thanksgiving from the UK. Well, thank you any advice on white ink I know you always say it's great, but I'm sure when to use it and when to not Yeah, I mean I use white ink and a lot of things when when do you use it when you need to use white Is really the short answer to the question The longer answer is when you need to use white in a very controlled fashion in a very small space So I use it when I'm doing like very fine lines or edge highlighting or stuff like that. I'll often mix it into other colors Um, I don't use white very often as an actual color On a figure that is to say, I usually use something else that's close to it So I don't I don't really tend to use white very much. For example, if you saw the bust that I finished up today from Deeregaard That had zero white or um, or black in it So there was no white paint used and no black paint used in that bust Um, that was all just actual hues that were mixed in various ways um, the closest that I used was Some pale sand as my sort of high tone color um, now that being said, uh When I use white ink, it's because I want to get something flowing and I want to have good control of it The same reason I tend to use ink in most cases White I will tend to either use a heavy body acrylic if I want it to be smooth and blended like if I'm trying to do white armor Or I want a white reflection and it'll be the heavy body acrylic so I can feather it If I need it to be a sharp line or something I have firm control over then it's Uh, then it's time for the white ink. So hope that helps Uh, let's see Uh, Hale hydro says his merch arrived and it's awesome. Got a t-shirt for myself and one for the mrs. And a hoodie. That's fantastic. I'm glad to hear it You know, I we tried to make sure that everything was like all the premium quality stuff I didn't change the price any I just kept the price the same and moved it up Uh, because whatever. I don't care. Um, it's better to have good stuff out there So I'm glad to glad to hear that everybody's enjoying it. So yeah, the merch links down below if anybody's interested So sure and so it's going to be there in every show from now on Uh, all right Uh, rahan. Um, hi vince. Thanks for all the tips. How will you paint turquoise power weapons on custodies? Um, sure. So Turquoise is a really Pretty fun color to paint My personal favorite is something like despair green from scale 75 fantasy and games Um, if you go watch my how to paint simple non-metallic weapons video Gosh, I don't know when I did it. Maybe uh, it's in 100 and teens probably that sounds about right somewhere around there It's whenever I was doing all my dock stuff Um, you'll see how I use turquoise when I when I do those weapons now. Those are very simplistic Just, you know, one light to dark transition opposed by another. That was the whole point of the tutorial was to be simple But you can complex those up by just increasing the number of light reflections and you know Like dark light contrast and stuff like that but effectively you just pick a mid-tone and then Blend in, you know, something bright and something dark And that's pretty much all it is. So if I was doing turquoise power weapons I would probably use a little bit of panes gray as my low tone and probably a little bit of like Ivory or something like that is my high tone. Maybe ice yellow that can look really good If I wanted them to be very cold, maybe a glacier blue Uh, and then I would break get out that white ink for the edges And to draw the little lightning coming off of the power nodule on the on the things So when you want to do that really fine lightning I really want to do a video about doing the lightning on power weapons like that little lightning effect But I cannot figure out how to film it because you have to draw lines that are so fine They're barely perceptible with your normal eyes, let alone with the camera And it's not a thing that I can paint while I'm sitting here like this Like when I paint it, I have to plant my feet and lean down like that So It's really really hard to get on camera. I'm gonna try to figure out a way and eventually I'll figure something out But that's the short answer of it You really don't need much more than that if you're talking about especially for an army If you want to get more fancy, you can mix in some other colors like mix in blues or yellows into the 2s and 4s into the mid-tone transitions into light or dark, but it's not necessary Yeah, there you go Uh, okay So w store in question when wet blending are heavy body acrylics better than normal miniature paint with slow dry medium Uh, I mean it's more like just the thicker and more heavily pigmented. The paint is the better it is So like it doesn't are heavy body acrylics better. Sure. Yeah, because you can feather them much more aggressively Um You should do that with like a synthetic brush because they're so thick You need something that actually isn't going to be a little floppy piece of nonsense that isn't going to move the paint Um, but you know chimera and pro acrylic also do really well at it Wet blending is just a matter of really like building up the the sort of muscle memory with it and the speed To be able to do it before the paint dries So like I don't use any retarder when I wet blend I just work fast But that's because I've done it enough times like I know what I'm going for and there's no question And like I have my my muscle memory down So it's really just a matter of practice with it. Yes in general thicker equals better. I mean, I'll say that much Uh Legionnaires, uh, I've been base coating boots base coating boots and my brushes keep splitting One of the brushes was new and the brushes are synthetic. What am I doing wrong? Uh, well, did you use the brushes for wash or something like that? Are you getting paint? too far down into the Feral of the brush could be any of those things brushes split like split. I I don't have brushes split anymore Because like unless you get a bad one out of the gate sometimes you can just get a bad brush If it's new and it splits automatically and it won't come together that just means the brush was manufactured poorly which that can happen but What's happening with a brush to split is You're getting a solid chunk of paint down here in the ferrule of the brush And that's when that solidifies and hardens it's Hardening the brushes like the bristles are drying in place. And so it's hardening the bristles around here At the base of it so you can wet them and pull them together, but then as it dries, it's just going to go like that And split back apart Right, so my advice is always the same. Um, make sure you're not getting paint down in basically from here down on your brush You shouldn't ever have paint getting down here in your nice brushes Um, if you need to clean them and you want to stop that then what you can do is go get yourself if they're synthetic Take some acetone or uh, some 99 isopropyl alcohol and soak them from here up In that mixture for quite a while and then wipe them and then soak them again and wipe them That will pretty much dissolve any paint down in there to be careful acetone will also Dissolve some of the glue so you don't want to let it sit too long um, you can also use the I don't have it in reach, but uh winds are newton makes a Fantastic brush restore that will rip the paint out of the ferrule of anything It's what I use when these are like my crappy big dry brushes And you can see they have this dark colored paint down at the bottom because I use them for washes and sloppy paint When that builds up too much I just soak them in there and it all comes out and then you get a nice Clean fresh brush with none of that there So that's my advice Uh, let's see Uh, okay Uh All right Suspicious pineapple. Hey vince. What's your favorite tmm bronze? I'm finding it hard to get a tone like out of vallejo metal color. Well, suspicious pineapple Uh, my answer is you should wait like one more week And you'll have an answer to that question because I may or may not be putting out a video Pretty sure it's wait. Is it next week? This week. I don't remember I'll look real quick. Let me see when that video is scheduled for Sometimes soon. I have a lot of I've already have a lot of videos going. Sorry a week and a half from now. I apologize A week and a half from now you're going to get a special video on bronze And using vallejo metal color to make bronze I've finally cracked the code on that recipe and I am very excited about it I've used it a bunch actually in my figures recently Um, so if you've seen a bronze colored thing on my minis like on the giants or whatever It is this recipe So, yeah week and a half Uh, let's see fs. Hey, vince. There's a lot of books about scale modeling and mini painting John mentioned and trapped under plastic other art books that many painters should look to which books would you recommend and why figopedia color and light Both of james gurney's books, which is color and light and um imaginative realism both are great Um, yeah, I mean those are probably like the three go to Uh, I know scale 75 just did their mini pedia. I don't know anything about it But that could be interesting I I didn't back the Kickstarter and I haven't seen it But I know it has a lot of different really great artists contributing to it. So Certainly seems like it could be valuable Um, because it's you know, really top shelf artists talking about like the art of it all Um, but yeah, those three will get you going Uh, dany thompson, I did this on warm weekly comments. So sorry, but I'd like to do worn clothes on cultus Can I transfer your distressed leather? Will that work? Yes 100% Um, as long as it's sort of brown and you're using transparent colors Like if you're trying to do red Then you kind of want to paint them red and then make the texture on top and then kind of glaze over the top It's still the same principle You just might need to experiment with the order of operations there dany If you're talking about brown worn clothes like they're wearing brown clothes Then yeah, sure easy. Um It's you know, when you're dealing with like the trick is with those brown inks. They're really naturally transparent Other colors don't always have that same level of transparency to show the The stippling and the texturing underneath So sometimes you need to like Do that texture on top of the base color and then glaze over top.  I want to paint some elements with liquid chrome and the glowing parts Hot lava melting metal any idea what color I should paint the rest of the models Some elements with liquid chrome Okay, and the glowing parts hot lava Melting metal any idea what color I should paint the rest of the models. Well, I mean Contrast is going to be key there and you have two very bright elements. That sounds like a very complicated paint job So I need to see exactly what you're thinking in your head about it um But I mean I would say a darker steel Now if you mean like the other parts that aren't metal, um, you know, any color is going to work ostensibly Like what works best with the sort of orange yellow of fire Something in like the turquoise blue range is your natural Complementary color to it, but you could you could still do greens or whatever Uh, that would be fine My dog is sitting in the shot here. She's she's very tired. Oh, baby. Okay Uh All right, so yeah, I mean that's that's what I would say I hope I answered your question or simon, but I would darken the if we're talking about the steel I would definitely darken the steel down And only have it go to shiny and like the high parts Uh tom kelly morning from australia. Good morning. It's very early there depending on where you are in australia. It's like 6 a.m.  Uh, no, I think that'd work exactly. Um, yes, I think that's a perfectly great method um If you if you set your under shading to be purple And then use something thin and by the way when I did the black templar I thin it like, you know one to one with with contrast medium or something Apply it as a nice controlled smooth glaze over the whole thing. Let it dry See how your balance looks and then if it's not dark enough do it again uh You know either because you can always go back in and like if you knock out too much at the end You can bring a little purple back into the wings through some quick like Slashes or textures or stippling on the wing Membranes or something like that Or a little bit in like the highlights and that's you can build that back up But that's that's absolutely. I think a great way to start Especially if you're talking about a lot of very small bats like maybe a bat swarm or something You know, I don't I don't know exactly how big the bat is we're talking about here Um, but yeah, I think that's fine Alan Thomas hyvins for NMM. What is the color difference to achieve bronze versus gold? Gold seems easy to go yellow or green gold But getting a rich bronze instead of gold or copper is alluding me Yeah, I mean bronze is tough as a non-metallic. There's a lot of different recipes out there. Um The key with bronze is you Uh, you you want to stick Largely more in the brown slash slightly red spectrum Um bronze is a very interesting color So if you stick brown and only dip into red you'll effectively get a kind of orange Which is pretty much what bronze feels like So things like colors like calahari orange Or red leather from Vallejo model color Uh, and then you know the the various sort of mid-tone Browns can be a good base for it. I know Um, David Soper has a pretty good recipe out there I know that Richard Gray has shared his both of them paint really fantastic non-metallic metal bronze So you might want to look into both of those but it's it's those kinds of colors Effectively you want to subtract out the yellow Um, you don't want, you know, much of any yellow in there other than maybe like a slight yellow tone Highlight if you're talking about the the piece existing in in a warm light and then um You You don't want to go too red. Otherwise it'll start to feel like copper So hope that helps. I mean you can also signify the non-metallic of it all by hiding oxidation in the In the shadows if you look at a lot of high-end painters, they'll effectively use the dark part They'll travel into where there's no reflected light. They'll they'll hide oxidation in there There's no real reason often why the oxidation would just be limited to the shadow areas But it ends up being a really nice look. So it's kind of art over reality uh Zen uh Okay Crazy horse tells me drusa craith can take an artifact and a command trait But everyone else is telling me she can't can I get some clarification on this? I want to build something soon gosh. I'm not sure I'm the right place for For those kinds of rules questions. I need to grab my broken realms book But I believe it says drusa craith in her battalion is treated as unique Um, which I would need to go read then the core rules and say that I'm pretty sure it says if something's unique They cannot take it take a command trait or an artifact Um, I mean again, I'm going off of memory The right answer here is look at exactly what the battalion says because it it designates her as something and then go look up the rules in the core rules on Unique characters and see if that that language matches up if it does then you can't if it doesn't then I would assume you can I I'm not sure I'll stop my head Um, if you want to leave a comment after zen, I'll I'm happy to go do the research for you And I'll go look and give you my opinion on this Feels like something that'll probably be in the faq uh Zumi Zumi Kito. I never know how to say it's a great channel Zumi Kito makes some awesome Vids especially like very fast excellent efficient tutorials. So if you want to see some great stuff check his channel out Uh, hi vince. I know that you like uh Vallejo air steel for painting tmm steel Plus black inks. What would be your current favorite brand for true metallics? Uh, it's it's all Vallejo metal color It's not Vallejo air. We'd be very clear here. It's all Vallejo metal color It's this right here. And what do I use to do copper? I use the other kinds and gold It's all Vallejo metal color including bronze by the way, which is the recipe I'll do in about a week and a half when that video publishes But this is the that's the only acrylic metal paint I use There are some non acrylic metal paints I use but that's that's the only acrylic metal paint I use Uh, tim high vince when buying oils for the first time which colors are the essentials You've mentioned using flesh instead of white for highlights any other curveballs aside from the cmyk colors. No, not really Um, like I I would recommend having a good set of flesh tones. You can certainly mix your own flesh tones There's nothing that hard about mixing flesh tones Um, and it's fun to do so, but if you're not very familiar with it, I would recommend that you Uh, get a couple um the ob Obt somebody somebody actually posted me the phonetics of how to say it and I I just I can't do it. I'm bad at pronunciation I'm sorry everybody, but the ob t long 502s Make a great series of flesh tones.  I use most often. I really like the shadow brown that comes in the flesh yet I use that instead of black. It's a nice dark. I'm looking up by the way at my oil paints Um, that's why I'm looking up, but uh, I use there's a nice shadow brown. I use a dark color Uh, a good burnt sienna will serve you very well. It's not the easiest color to mix burnt sienna is a real winner for like tan skin Leathers all sorts of good stuff burnt sienna is a very versatile paint As far as color goes and then something with, uh Something with maybe like a nice, uh purple tone just so you can get like, um Just so you can get a really vibrant purple Can be a little better than mixing the pigments because the pigments don't always mix as true colors So it depends on what you're using so something like a dioxazine purple or a cobalt violet or whatever whatever's in the range you want. Yeah Okay Uh, Sisyphus trying to do some non-metallic metal iron Non-metallic metal iron darker and less reflective than steel. Can you offer any tips? Yeah, shorten your volumes so like if you look at Go look at carill can I have busts? Which are incredible And you know, I mean he's one of the best in the world and if you look at his stuff he He has these incredible reflective surfaces and a lot of them is a lot of white Like if you were looking that at that Not at the golden angle if you were looking at it in person What you would note is just how much white is on the surface like here's this helm that's reflective And like this whole section right here is just white.  So if you look at the bust I painted today Look at the swords versus the metal that's on her wrists Okay, the swords have these broad sweeping bright highlights in various tones and reflections of like What's reflecting her armor back or the fire that she's going toward or the sky and just you know, these big broad bright reflections Whereas the steel that isn't super polished that's around her bracers or whatever is mostly dark Uh, the highlight volumes are really small And so if you you have to transition from basically this very dark color all the way to near white In an incredibly short space and that makes it feel like the overall metal is darker But it's still reflective Excuse me.  I'll let go ahead Uh, all right Randall, uh, what advice would you give for someone that hasn't painted many large minis and wants to try to tackle one? Say I paint skeleton warriors and I want to attempt archon Do it don't hold back. I mean archon's pretty much just another skeleton on top of a bigger skeleton Is it's nothing really that new? Uh, I mean when you get to like huge demons or something that are that have you know Oodles and oodles of flesh tone Or flesh space or you know, negative blank negative space Then you have to think about like, how do I fill this space up? How do I transition through a bunch of colors stuff like that? But for the most part painting something like archon, is it going to be a different my my best advice is just do it um You know, I archon is a pretty straightforward paint job. I've painted archon the black as well as, uh Nefarada, obviously I've never painted manfred because manfred's the worst, uh, but the But yeah, I mean it really will feel just maybe basically like the same thing but bigger and more You know, uh, so yeah, I mean I'd say get into it the if we're talking about larger scale There's a different set of concerns you have to have When you're just talking about like a blown-up monster, but that's still detailed enough to where he isn't just like Uh, huge amounts of just blank open space then it's pretty much just the same thing as the smaller models uh Pablo um question I'm loving oils, but the setup and thinning takes a long time Especially since I don't usually have time for long painting sessions. Is there a wet palette equivalent for oils? um Yeah, so I mean I Yes, just oils I guess is my answer So a lot of times what I do is I don't actually pre-thin my oils like I know I have I have a bunch of pre-thinned oils for When I want to work with them like that But actually what I tend to do is work out of the tube as much or if not more And so I have a piece of I don't think you can see it, but on this shelf over here Whatever on one of these sides of me. I have a piece of marble Um It's like a marble tile I went to the hardware store and bought this piece of marble tile It's a couple dollars It's because it's meant to be like something you buy hundreds of to do a floor or whatever And it's very non porous And uh, we know when I put oil paint on there, it'll basically stay workable for a couple of days Because it doesn't dry. So I just put a little globby glob on there and then Pull out the part I need and mix it somewhere else in there and paint and then I just when I'm done with it I just take my big hard palette and set it over to the side Just need a big piece of tile basically Um And yeah, that's that's what there is to it. You're not going to keep oil paints around longer than that. I mean you could always Uh seal that Like you could seal that up. Um oil paints don't dry due to Oil paints don't dry due to evaporation Like we think of acrylic paints with the water evaporating oil paints dry due to oxidation like the the white spirits evaporates But then the linseed oil that's in there oxidizes and that's actually how oil paint sets Um, so I mean if you cut off the amount of oxygen for it to work with you'll slow the drying time Um Okay, let's see I'm way behind here Uh, I gotta catch up. All right Uh, james. Hey vents. Happy Thanksgiving when edge highlighting edges on a model the line I am getting a super thin barely readable. Is there such a thing as too light a touch? Sure, but that's fine. You can always go back and take a couple more passes and thicken it up But it's usually better to be too thin than too thick All right So that's that's a short answer Uh Hey hui. How you doing? Okay Uh, kenden evening vents. Hello td. Hey vents. I paint in small unpredictable blocks 10 minutes here 30 minutes there Would oils work for me? See the previous answer. Yeah, sure. I mean like it's super fast You know like I cannot explain how fast it is Um, if you you know, I get out my oils I keep a little ramekin here next to me. I order these little ramekins that I use for my white spirits and I just put a couple pipettes of white spirits in there the oil paints a hold for a couple days Usually and get two three days out of it sitting on the tile So if I sit down, I mean I can do a whole space marine with complicated blends in like 30 minutes So it's pretty fast Uh hui, um How can you paint models without straining and craning your neck too much? I have trouble with long painting sessions Step one good chair like this that I have that has lumbar support. There's a There's a thing back here sit properly in your chair So you should be sitting like you're sit like you're a dog Trying not to sit on your tail Okay, in other words like your back should be up and your butt should be out and you should have something there supporting that arch So make sure that your chair supports your whole upper thigh and feet Firmly on the ground and then you know paint Um one thing you can do you can go get big foam inserts for pillows and stuff from like joan fabrics or whatever the equivalent of whatever craft store is in your area You can get these big foam inserts They're meant for like people who want to make various pillows and things like for for sewing things You can make a people want to sell a pillowcase and then make special pillowcases or whatever throws Um, but it's just the inside just a big foam inside You can set that in your lap and that's a good place to rest your arms So then your arms are resting very comfortably right here at your side You know because you can sit on your forearms and then you're just painting It becomes very easy. You're super stable Not hurting yourself. You can even lean back a little. That's fine. That's okay because you got upper back support as well And you know then you can paint 20 hours a day The other key is make sure you're not straining your hands So, you know have some kind of paint handle right something where you're that's as close to your normal grip Like if you just do nothing with your hand if you relax every muscle on your hand, it sits like this Right, so you want something that's as close to that as possible Uh mega uh contrast paints are brutal on my brushes. Should I only use synth brushes for contrast? Yeah, any super liquidy paint like that that's that's juiced up with flow improver is going to destroy nice brushes It's it's made to destroy brushes because flow improver isn't a one-way thing It doesn't just flow on the model. It immediately flows down into the feral of the brush as well, right?  If we're talking about traditional application Then you know synthetic brush Uh james struthers question my fire slayers exist in a low light lush green blue environment Uh, what would be a good technique to add that color as an ambient under lighting trying to get a nice subtle green red contrast Uh Across an army, it's tough like if it was doing that as a display piece I would just paint into the shadows and then have a reverse blue light coming up from below Uh and that but that's going to be like very time consuming over a whole army You could always Like after you're done Not with the piece with priming you could come back in with like a blue green and you could anti zenithal or nadir roll or whatever the below is sort of Pre spray it right so instead of like zenithal the opposite of that you could come in underneath With your airbrush do that blue green and then basically work top down from the rest of it To just leave a little bit of that blue green in the shadows Uh and set that as your shadow color and that might that might work I'm trying to think of like what's the right mix here between doing it for a whole army And doing it, you know for just one piece. So I hope that gives you some ideas Scott Gibbs any tips on motivation? Uh, well, that's These this is a question I get a lot it's hard for me to answer because I'm a I don't I'm like naturally very motivated because I'm addicted to painting I mean sure there's a hundred tips on motivation. I have Probably three different videos about motivating yourself properly. Uh, so one go watch those Two keep your painting area ready Get a wet palette have paint on it have your brushes at hand have a cup of water ready to go Be able to from the moment you say I'm going to like if I say to myself I would like to paint it is as easy as me sitting in this chair There is a five second gap between me deciding I want to paint and painting That's it Lower the barrier of entry of entry to paint every day in some way Even if it's 10 minutes 20 minutes 30 minutes an hour paint every day fine time Don't make it set alarms on your phone set multiple alarms on your phone set an alarm for seven o'clock Then seven 10 then seven 15 and seven 20 cents and seven 25 that says you should be painting Right paint new things things that interest you find a project. It's your passion switch scales Pick different minis paint something that's not just for an army. Don't get yourself caught in in Okay, now i'm going to do 80 more of these guys brown brown brown brown brown brown brown Wash wash wash wash like working in a factory is naturally killing to the soul Okay, so like don't turn your in our in our quest for an adam smith like efficiency We sacrificed our souls Yes, it's true. It's more efficient if one person just makes the head of the pin Unfortunately, it is also soul killing So, you know break up your work. Don't just work in a factory land process That's a lot of stuff that I would say there you go. How's all those work? Uh, okay Uh, let's see Okay, so can you make an ultimate guide to color shift paints? Probably not I'm just not the right person for that. I don't tend to like color shift paints I don't like how they look or work So i'm probably not your guy for that like I just want to be honest I don't I I know that there are people who would find it useful. It's not that I don't want to help I do it's just I find it hard to do something like an ultimate guide to something that I don't use Um, I mean, I always want to be honest and transparent with all of you I don't chill stuff You know just because somebody paid me to do it I don't do stuff just because I think it's going to get clicks or something, you know like and And ultimately I want to share with you my passion and I just don't have the passion for him Um, you know, I have a line of them Um, I've played with them a little bit In the end. I'm just not too hot on them That's kind of where I fall. So I'm sorry. I know that's not the best answer But my happy answer is that there are probably lots of other people out there who who will do it And I'll I'll leave it to them Any tips on using pro-acryl transparent colors? I find them achieving the glaze tough so Yeah, I mean for me I use them with just a little bit of flow improver and they're perfect Um, I just literally glaze them right over the top I use them a lot like the war colors glaze where I'll also use just a tiny amount of flow improver with it And I love them. I think they're fantastic colors using through the airbrush a lot actually um, so there you go Uh Everybody's saying more aspen. She went laid down. I don't know where she went. Oh, she's behind me now I'll bring the dogs up at the end Uh, okay, uh question Uh, the best artists seem to be able to get a real deep glow to skin tones even at 32 millimeters such as calvo and cowl Is there a particular trick? Yeah, I mean it's Yes, it is running the full gamut of contrast, right? They're they're using a full and rich selection of colors They're fours and fives their shadows and midtones are usually rich and infused with hue purples magenta's Things like that and then they have a yellow in the near upper tone and then going to uh, you know Near white at the highest tone and then that Smoothes out and when you do that it gives skin that lustrous luminous quality, right on my skin right now This is very blue because I'm above this light and you've got a lot of reds You've got hot lights that I'm reflecting from my lights above me on my shiny shiny forehead, right? So there you need to run that whole gamut My answer is also that stuff takes a lot of time. So if you're talking about a single figure, then it's fine That's exactly what I do You know, you'll see a lot of the same stuff going on in in skin tones that I paint when I'm doing a single figure if I'm doing like a You know an army, I don't know that I would run that same gamut all the way up as high or focus as much on it So but yeah, it's just it's literally just a matter of of of running the full Race of both hue and value Okay, that's what's creating that quality. It's just that I that contrast of both not just light also hue Uh, allen, how would you paint realistic display quality dwarves beards or since you hate dwarves? Who uh, who would you recommend for that? No, I mean the same thing I said earlier about braids You generally want to get the light toward the top of the sections and then draw down to shadow Um, if you go look at the go track that I did you'll see exactly Um The it's the only dwarf I've ever painted in my life, but I've painted plenty of other minis with beards Um, you'll see exactly the same principle. It's the same principle as the hair on your head, right? You want to establish these lustrous areas of shine have it run into nice deep shadow Thin individual stretches.  You're not putting on flat colors other than maybe a base coat Your everything is built with small Scratches small hashes. That's that is that is no more mysterious or magical than that That's literally all there is to it and then building up the right light dark light dark light dark Uh, okay Uh, crazy horse question. When will the vince snuggling dogs 2021 calendar be up for all work on it? I'm sure if I just put my dogs onto some shirts and stuff and sell well Much better than anything else because they are the cutest dogs in the world Uh, let's see charles. Hi vince. I sent you a tweet that may change your mind on Bugman sin. Okay. I'll check it out Uh Hi vince. What are your thoughts on mission models paint? Uh, they're fine. I've used some of them. They're fine I don't have anything more to say than that Like they had no properties that distinguished them Nor that hobbled them. They were completely acceptable acrylic paints There you go I like their transparent dust color as an interesting, uh, paint to work over Concrete and old buildings outside because it is very transparent just adds a nice hue to like old Uh, weathered concrete. How about that? Okay Charles, do you know any good pearlescent paints want it for 40 k l dark characters? No, because I'm not sure you could really capture that in a paint Pearl is one of the hardest effects to paint. It's way up there. Like it's those kinds of high gloss multi-hued things so, um oil spills and Dragonfly wings and pearls and obsidian all fall into the category of Just don't do it Okay, like just don't If you like to the point where if you were going to try to paint them you would already know how to paint them now That all being said which sounds like that sounds like a real jerk answer But that being said if you want to shortcut it and you're okay with it not looking exactly like a real pearl Yes, I'll give you two options. So, um pearl x Which is a pigment powder You can order a pearlescent white and if you mix that in with some medium and paint it on there You'll get a somewhat pearl like effect. Okay the other option Is in the fluorescent fx Series from scale 75 they have this really Really white That's the name of it. I didn't pick it, but it is a very pearl like reflection shine So, you know that is also a good stand-in and it's pretty straight out of the pot um The trick with pearls is that they just they really cover a lot of different hues in very subtle and interesting ways So, but both of those options would give you like a close approximation if that's what you're looking for uh, okay Uh, let's see, uh Um joe hyvins any tips on painting very bright vibrant colors particularly colors like pink and light blue Yes, do not paint them over black any bright color like that is very dependent on its under shade So lay down a bright white or near white first over the area You're trying to paint it on and then paint that color on you will be amazed how much more brighter it is You can't build up those colors in a traditional layer method They will never get as bright because what's under them is influencing the color heavily if you just turn them white they'll They'll pop like the sun Uh, let's see Uh, uh matt hyvins, would you have any recommendations for taking a Necron scheme built around vellejo metal color steel and silver and making it look extremely cold? Uh, sure, uh from an under shade go in with some nice blue ink and just uh kind of spray him maybe even like a Guillemin blue glaze would be the right stuff this stuff Um from underneath could look really nice um Yeah, that would make him look cold. I mean if you introduce blue human brains say cold Pretty fast. So yeah, that could just like like I was talking about earlier like an anti zenithal, right? So you you'd have your standard thing Of steel going up to silver at a zenithal way and then from the underside you come in with that blue Uh austin do you have any tips for competitions? I'm planning to go to my first one next year and want to start preparing early uh, sure Lower your expectations But paint like you want to win Put as much time as you can into it um And do pick a piece that you're very passionate about Make sure you do something that you find interesting because if you find it interesting then the judges have a better chance of finding it interesting Um understand if you can if it's your first competition ever you're probably not going to be able to know this But understand the biases of the competition Um every competition has biases. I know a lot of people who don't compete a lot really hate that idea. They're like that's not fair Sure, okay. Well, it is what it is. You know life isn't fair um The like every competition has a bias and understanding it will help you if your goal is to place in that competition um And so, you know understand the nature of the of the competition and what those biases are Um, sometimes that's the thing you have to learn over time and um Yeah, I mean like do your absolute best make sure you leave if you here's here's my best piece of advice when doing competition painting You know, sometimes you paint and you'll be doing you'll be working on it and your brain will go Does that look right? And then you have this monologue with yourself internally Where you're like, eh Well, it's probably okay. I mean, I think it looks okay. Does that look okay? I guess I mean it probably looks fine. It doesn't it doesn't it never does Listen to your brain If it's telling you something is wrong If something is wrong, don't argue yourself out of fixing things Okay, that's the number one thing. I see people do I do it I have to stop myself from doing it all the same as any other person When you listen to that subconscious mind that's going like hey, hey, that's not working fix that Don't don't let the uh, don't let your conscious mind overwhelm it. So there you go. Uh, okay Uh, let's see to moss. Uh, what age of sigmar army would you find most interesting and fun from the painting and collecting point of view? Oh gosh, I mean there's lots. Um iron jaws is one of the most fun armies. I've ever collected painted It's elite. You can take a lot of time. It's a lot of figs cool different surfaces skins and armor Big cool centerpiece monster iron jaws a great army for that Um ogres can be the same way.  Like if you want to show off Your ability with skin and make something that's really eye catching in that way They're you know, there's your go-to right there.  So it kind of depends on like what your What your taste is in the hobby? Uh, let's see. Emily. Happy holiday Vince. Well, hi Emily. Happy holidays to you uh How to prevent going crazy town when gap filling working on a silvanet from lune curse and I feel like it takes thousand years ah well, Emily The key to that is our old friend spru goo Spru goo is the key I barely gap fill anything anymore because I paint with plastic. That's what spru goo is. It's just painting with plastic This guy here When I put him together He had a nice little gap running down because that this is fig is assembled weirdly where this top piece slots into this Which is open into the side and there's a little crack there and I noticed it and I was like, huh That's annoying and then I dipped into my sprue goo and I ran it right along there And uh now that's not a gap anymore and it's done and there are zero gaps on this model Um when I did the giants I I attach my figs with sprue goo I don't just use this to gap fill I use this to attach models because when this dries it dries as plastic And so like I just put a glop on both sides Squish it together. That was probably a very loud clap. I apologize Squish it together it Squishes out the middle. I just take my finger wipe it along carefully Done if a little bit of gap still remains you just do a nice simple layer right over the top easy peasy lemon squeezy All right, red wizard. What's your process for selecting a basing scheme for a project? Uh, so it has to do with several weeks of Nashing your teeth praying to dark gods casting chicken bones Wandering alone in the woods meditating on mountain tops Uh, and then finally tearing at my own clothes breathing in madness Uh, all of these things are usually part of my selection of a basing scheme. That's basically a I mean, it's I who knows right? I don't know I basing schemes the hardest thing to pick because I've done 18 armies and I always like to do something new There ain't that many more new things So That's it gives me a particular consternation, but I mean just you know in general I just try to think about like what's going to align with this color wise. What would be interesting and fun to do Right, uh, I always like to try new and different things. So uh So, uh, zoom a key to I said you saw you've been using those metal colors and found them a little too runny They are runny. Here's my advice for them Like I understand why you want to mix them with a thinner metallic or thicker metallics And I know some other people do that too like, um Uh, Marco mixes the Vallejo metal color with like speed metal or thrash metal from scale 75 That's fine Uh, the real key is you just always need to be wicking off a lot of that liquid into a paper towel and using a bigger brush Um, if you work that way like I basically work with those only with a size two or above brush And if you wick off the excess liquid, you will just paint forever Like one brush load will paint everything because it just keeps coming once you wick off that water into a paper towel Golden So I hope that helps Uh, Cory, I was repainting my old forge rolled elemental of beasts and elemental of fire.   They would be perfect for their respective realms No, I mean, they're very old figs. You know, there's not really easy access to them anymore But I mean my giants have a very specific aesthetic to them in the frank and stiny and monster variety. So Um, but they're cool models. I like those these are those old things I really wish they would just like this is going to be probably an unpopular statement But I wish they would just retire the entire forge world line for aos Just kind of kill it out for the most part and and reintroduce new stuff Um, that's actually more aose and more useful to the current game I don't know Okay, uh, let's see No, I jumped the comments now. I gotta go back a peter parker. Hey vince. Do you paint canvas? Why do you enjoy painting figures? I love painting managers But since your crimson fist oil painting video and trying them out, I'm keen to give 2d painting a go No, I don't really paint any canvas paintings Um, I mean, I'll do backgrounds and stuff like that behind miniatures and that's kind of the same thing It's a small canvas. Um, why do I like painting miniatures? I don't know. I just do I like being able to use this thing in a game Something about painting a miniature and creating something that's 3d and You can create a world and an environment and narrative for is just really cool to me It's more appealing to me than a blank canvas Um, because every miniature is always a collaboration Right, you're getting to work with the artists who concepted it and the sculptors who created it And uh, everybody else who's ever painted it that influenced your own ideas and that's kind of cool Um, I'm not somebody who likes to just rock up to a blank canvas. I mean I have in my lifetime.  I never took in college or anything, but Other than the, you know, mandated history of art course um But the Um, so I mean I did canvas painting that and I've just not that I've never put brush to a to a stretch canvas Um, it's just in general. It doesn't interest me as much But if it interests you you should absolutely do it because it's it's great Uh, sfl mongoose high vents inspired by the weekends reveals. I'm starting a slanesh army You have made the right choice. Welcome. Welcome to the dark prince's wonderful embrace Wondering if it's possible to do a true metallic pink armor using vallejo metal color Is there an ink you'd recommend to mix in tint with? Yes 100% Option one contrast paints like vulpous pink or whatever it is. There's a good option option two Dallaraunee fw bingenta ink. That's a great. That's a great pick right there. That's a hot one Uh, yeah, either of those would would do you just fine and you could get some sweet sweet pink over the top So there you go John ashley smith I used to paint metal all the time in 2d with watercolor, but never considered painting my miniatures that way There you go, and happy thanksgiving to my american cousins. Well, thank you very much Travis, I want to have the sea the sea like The ocean be very present in the theme for the bases for my pirate army When I'm having trouble thinking of a better basing for the army instead of just wood planks from the ship Yeah, I mean Depends on what you want like you can have certainly you can do the wood planky thing. That's fine Um, you can also have some people on rocks or you know the the bigger the base the more room you have to play with You could have um, you know people on rocks with crashing waves beside them like I've done the the rocks and and you know Wave thing before on bases. That's fun and easy. It's a bit strange that everybody's standing on their own rock but It's okay. Um The uh, so that's kind of my my thought there. Um Uh, yeah Give me just a moment. My wife just called. I am answering her back This is good. This is good television right here. Okay. All right. Uh, okay. Well, let's see Chris, uh, hey vent you mentioned you didn't like nergal in your last stream. How come? Because it's gross One I have tryptophobia So those things really bother the living crap out of me Like if you know anybody who I've tryptophobia, you know how much close to sessions of circles bother people Just thinking about it right now is making my skin crawl. So I'm going to move on from that thought Um, but I just don't like painting gross things like that I like death guard just fine because they're locked away in their army and their armor And then you get a chance to experiment with different things. I mean, I like rust and I like weathering, but I don't like gross Pustules and boils and mouths and stomachs and just I mean like look, I don't mean this in a negative way, but it feels like what I thought was cool when I was 10 right like Whatever Like that sounds super insulting. Okay, and I don't mean it that way Um, I just like I'm not better than nergal.  Okay, so There you go Uh, all right Uh, hey vents. I got Vallejo to take my input in making more metal colors and reply to a recent tweet Just wanted to let you know Uh, berserk if you get them to come out with a standardized copper or anything like that metal color with their new formulation I want you to know that you're doing god's work and I I bless you for it Uh TP grant, how did you like the call to paint many? I kick started them and really excited to get them sometime next year Oh, they're gorgeous. Just gorgeous. I mean, it was fantastic. The casting was wonderful Figure was great the detail the volumes. I mean really it was some of the most fun. I've had painting in a long time um Yeah, I absolutely loved it. Um, it was great Uh, let's see Oh, there you go. Uh, john ashley smith says we used to put cling wrap on our pallets and stored them in the refrigerator And see there you go. That might help never thought about that Uh, legionnaires question. How much are you thinning the primer you push through your airbrush? Oh I don't know probably one to four so like one drop of thinner to four drops of primer Something like that sounds that sounds in the in the ballpark Uh, greg hyvins favorite airbrush sealer My friend uses finish Finish brushing it on but someone else recommends ak interactive or airbrush. Um, yes, correct so either ak interactive ultra matte varnish or Um ammo by mig makes the same thing if you don't want to support ak, which is fine and understandable Um, the ammo by mig makes the exact same ultra matte varnish both are good Um, my actual usual varnish mix when i'm working in between layers So I varnish like You know like that bus I finished that probably got varnished 10 times throughout the life of life cycle of that project Um, and when I varnished midstream, I actually usually varnish with Uh two to one ultra matte to satin varnish from vallejo, so I'll do like three drops of satin varnish for body and protection and then six drops of ultra matte to kill all shine And that's usually what I varnish with Uh, okay So let's see question on airbrush compressor. What decibel level is acceptable? I don't know that I could answer that but get a like if you can get a What I would recommend is probably just like a master cheap airbrush compressor with a tank If you've got a tank, it's not going to run that often and it won't be that loud Like the one I have I've had for a couple years now. It's fine when it does run I have no idea what decibel level it's at. I've never put a sound up to it or says to see what it says, but Like I don't know it's quieter than running the vacuum or anything like that You know, there's lots of other things in my house already that are louder than that the dishwasher is louder than that Uh, so whatever. I don't know what decibel level that stuff's at, but um, there you go Uh Graphs all hello vince greetings from germany I'm trying to paint adeptus titanicus reavers and warhounds actually in a legio and furnace pattern Do you have any advice to paint good flames? Uh, yeah, sure. Um paint them in white first. So create your flame pattern what you want to be that in white Especially if that that patterns like flames over black if memory serves So like create that area in white then do a little glaze in yellow Then orange toward the upper parts and then deep red Red brown toward the tip Right, so once you reset to like an ivory or white doesn't have to be actual dead white by the way Just like ivory or pale sand is going to probably serve you better, but something like that Then go back in and then add your your very transparent tones to it Uh, okay Ryan what's a good way to take a color and make it metallic? Create a high amount of contrast over the volumes of the color Any color can become metallic if you run it all the way up to very near white and all the way down to very near Dark metallic is just high reflectivity So it's just a matter of capturing that in the like that's the nature of what we're painting What we're trying to do is take control of the light Ultimately the great challenge of miniature painting is to take control of the light to display the light as as it would interact with any Given texture it interacts with cloth different than it interacts with leather different than it interacts with skin different than it interacts with metal Right and what makes metal metal what makes your cars 100 Shiny cars out on the road right that are all different colors but they seem to have this sort of glossy metallic like sheen And the nature of what makes that shine is that they have the very glossy high reflectivity up going to almost white light And all the way down into deep shadows So there you go Alan so when is the next pmp challenge? Uh, probably next year because we're going to switch the way we do the pmp reviews next year And so I'll have time to do different stuff with it. So november and december will be the last two normal pmp reviews Like end of month review things and then we're going to switch in 2021 Uh, damien I want to ask about baking paper for a wet palette. I know wax paper can't be used for this purpose But I can't find uh any without silicone coating. Well, this type of baking paper work. I doubt it I mean, I just use reynolds like I just use reynolds baking paper. That's all I use Um, you can order it. It's for like cookie sheets for making cookies That's all I use Um, I don't know about non-silicone stuff. I don't think the stuff I'm buying has any silicone coating on it It's just this like I haven't seen anything. I don't have the box, but it's just good old-fashioned reynolds baking paper I buy it in in bulk From like any grocery store and that's it Nothing more to it Uh, let's see Uh, do you have any tips on ergonomics? I well, I so I mentioned this earlier Yes, make sure you have a good chair. Make sure the chair has good lumbar support Make sure it has upper back support as well Sit like you're trying to not sit on your tail.  I tend to not sit like that. You'll notice I tend to squidge around a lot Um, I move a lot when I'm painting That's why one of the reasons it's so hard for me to paint on camera Is I move a lot when I paint. I'm a very fidgety person Uh, so So I apologize for all of the hundreds of hours I've spent going off camera in videos. That's just me I just I move a lot um The but the answer is make sure your feet are you know Your chair should be at such a level to where your legs are sitting like this and your feet are flat On the ground. Uh, yeah, so there you go Once you if you have Invest in a good chair a chair that is solid has good arm support good lumbar support good upper back support Do not buy an army if it means spending a couple hundred dollars on a chair It is a far better investment once you kill your back I had a really bad chair a few years back and I just kept using it and kept using it in my back out Worse I had to go to the chiropractor for like a year uh to get my back back into shape and You know do a lot of like basically exercises with my back to get and I it's better now because I didn't do any permanent damage. Thank God um And you know, then I went out and it was my own cheapness that almost caused permanent injury Uh, I bought a better chair some years back and I've never regretted It's the best choice I made because I can sit in this chair for 20 hours and keep painting and feel fine I mean, you shouldn't you should get up every uh Every hour and walk around or something But my point is is that it's comfortable to sit there for extended periods of time Synth wave high vents. I find myself using mainly very saturated colors. How would you recommend making a model interesting with desaturated colors? um The hues you choose to use the balance the Contrast of value instead like there's lots of different things texture You know all of the other things that we can use as visual markers for interest Those things texture high value high contrast all of those things will create an interesting landscape regardless of Saturation, right? So you just want to explore how you can utilize the rest of those things for for visual interest But I mean I get it. I love bright colors too I tend to use mostly bright colors because I find, you know, like drab military style modeling Okay Okay Yes baking paper is also called parchment paper depending on what part of the world you're in but yes It's just regular old parchment paper. Also another good way to put it Uh dances. I'm new to airbrushing when I press down for just air. I still get a little paint coming through What am I doing wrong? Well either the airbrush itself is bad possible Or just your needle isn't seated correctly Like you have something that's preventing the needle from seating correctly because when you just push down for air You should not be getting paint. That means the seal around the end of your needle isn't tight So somewhere in there, there is a the air is still the paint is still able to leak out And that usually means the needle isn't as far forward as it could be Which means you have like a slight blockage in the tip where it feels like you're seating it all the way in there But you're not when I say tip. I mean this tiny copper piece That's at the very front If you get a little blockage in there It can prevent the tip from seating properly or push it off to the side and allow a tiny little gap Like if there is even a little micron of a gap paint's gonna get through So try cleaning the copper tip all the way out with a needle tool There's a special little needle tool you get and clean it out And make sure you're you're the actual needle is pushed all the way forward and locked in and you should just be able to get just air then Uh drew moss any recommendations for keeping your workspace organized while you're working on a project? I ended up collecting a lot of clutter while I work uh Only ever work on one project maybe two by having a second one off to the side and it should be clean I have a specific paint rack here A specific nail polish rack that is only for the paints. I'm currently using A couple of like just universals sit on there all the time, but the front two rows are just for the paints. I'm currently using Um clean yourself like clean up if you've got the figs and they're done the rest needs to go away Right, um when I'm done with a project everything go every time I finish a project Everything goes away all the paints go back in their proper spot all the brushes get cleaned and go back in their spot Everything goes home. Everything has a place and a place for everything and that Ritualistic cleaning of everything is really important. It resets your brain and then you go to the next project Um, so yeah, I mean that's probably my best advice Uh Rummy bum. Hey vince any tips on how to make tmm armor on chaos warriors not seem boring I want to use jet exhaust from valet home metal color, but don't want to take it to silver Um, I mean do take it somewhat silver is part of my answer like I understand you don't want them to be too bright But having a nice bright reflection, even if it's minimal will still help that a lot Two is use other colors in the shadows like put other rust or browns or something like that in the lower colors If you want it to be more like in the shade colors So have it go like silver darker to black iron and then into some brown rust on the lower parts Or browns or oranges, you know to make it look interesting Have other cross competing colors have other parts of the armor have actual color and interest to them You know use a nice bright Hue or something like that because the problem with regular silver armor is it's just gray And you're asking me how can I make gray interesting? Well, it's it's gray. How interesting do you find a world that is completely gray, right? If it's just in a gray wall if you got a gray ball in front of a gray wall in a gray mall It's not a very interesting thing So the other answer is you can try mixing in just a little bit of slight color to it, right? So Do you're the same spread you're talking about but then also mix in like maybe a super light glaze of red just One quick pass, right? So that seems like they've got a little bit of like a Weird red metallic sheen to them or something like that the infusion of a little bit of hue can often go a long way toward visual interest Uh, let's see Yep, okay. So rob are talking about that scale 75 really white that I mentioned Yep Uh, there you go.  I already said earlier. I wouldn't Uh, so there you go. Nice try Uh question. Why don't you paint more Middle Earth minis? I don't like them. They're a smaller scale than I enjoy I don't really like true 28 mil feels too small. I like bigger scales I mean, I'm an old man. My eyes are you know, I wear glasses, obviously I love Lord of the Rings I've logged, you know in my lifetime hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours into Lord of the Rings online and ran around that world and loved it and uh, I you know read all the books multiple times but The figs just don't grab me. I in the end. I don't like painting stuff. That's just like stock fantasy stuff I like things that are weird and different and imaginative and unusual and strange I like the weird and Lord of the Rings for all of its beauty is not weird. It's it's, you know, their fantasy as it were So it's just not to my taste. Um, you know, I'm not opposed to it. I love when people do brilliant jobs with it Um, you know, there's some people out there who just paint incredible stuff with that And I love to look at it. It's just not what I like to paint. So Well, let's see Uh, Stuart says thinking of painting picking up the ogre battle force to make an all ogre and imperial guard army Any ideas into inspirations? Well, first of all, that sounds amazing Secondly, I would get some bits lots from the real ogre So you can give them like the ogre shields and mix in a little bit of the ogre and armor um You know, maybe mix in some Maybe grab like some ambot bits lots or something like that So you can mix in like some cybernetic type pieces as well replace some of their hands with cyber stuff That'll make them feel really Uh sci-fi, you know, put some tubes on them and stuff. It's always a good time for tubes Uh, and then, you know, as far as basing goes just good old ruined industrial waste is always great for ogre But that sounds like a super cool idea I was always more of a rattling man than an ogre man, but To, you know, as you will Uh, okay Oh boy. Oh boy. Where am I at? Sorry, I have to scroll back up now. There we go. Okay question other than valet hope metal color What acrylic metallics are the most worthwhile in your experience? Um, none is the short answer to that question zero other acrylic metal paints are good Now if you force me to answer that question, the only other acceptable acrylic Metal paints are scale 75 steel set designed by banshee and a good set So that's like your thrash metal and your speed metal and all that kind of stuff I find them. Okay, and the visible pigment isn't like So grotesque So, yes, it's those those are those are good. They're like a b-plus. They're just not an a-plus uh Okay High-vents does the amount of contrast you lay onto the model change with scale In what ways would you approach a large scale bus differently from a 28 millimeter figure? I mean the answer is no because you always want to have Light to dark. It's about the texture of the surface and what you're trying to capture When you go up in scale what you really have the option to introduce in in much bigger ways is the contrast of hue Um, you can introduce a lot more tones and tonal changes into the skin You can capture a lot more unique transitions of like all the reds and blues and Yellows that are on my face right now. You can bring those to life in a lot bigger ways So it's not as much that you do less contrast.   So there you go Uh, okay Uh, good recommendations for pigment powders from someone who has never used them before Scale set or sorry. Um secret weapon secret weapon pigment powders great colors. We'll use them all the time ancient earth violet yellow earth Uh, they had a bunch of good stuff obtolung makes some nice ones as well like those those are really cool Um, but yeah, either one of those would do you well. I have a ton of pigments. I love pigments So I've got just every pew of the rainbow and pigments. I use them all the time. They're fun Uh coal painting my first fig entirely in oils How long should I leave one layer to dry before coming into apply a second layer? I generally leave a full day That's my thing. It also depends on how thick you apply it. I also rarely paint a fig completely in oils I usually use acrylics for like small details and finish work and line work and stuff like that It's just easier again Like it's about right tool for the right job Acrylics are bad at blending We've all had to to like trick ourselves into doing some complicated acrobatics To get this paint that's meant to dry in seconds to blend smoothly when that's not what it was meant for It was meant for ease of application and durability and quick drawing Oils are made for blending and smoothness, right? So like when you have fine but acrylics have great control Oils are harder to control because they're naturally much thicker So again, right tool, right job when I see a screw in the wall, I don't get out of hammer But when I see a nail, I don't get out of screwdriver, right? Find the right tool for the right job Uh, let's see Um cast vince, would you ever give us a glimpse of a game with your giants? Sure next time I have them on the table. I'll take some pictures and tweet them out or something Uh John Ryan Phillip does sigval look like he meant anyone or is it just me Is his face isn't s square he man had a very square hard jaw like sigval has a much more angular soft face Uh, that's what That's what I think Personal opinion Any advice for adding grime dirt or other weathering to metals that isn't rust? Uh, sure like things like pigments. We just talked about are great, you know, just having some gloopy Mud built up around stuff can be great having streaks Run down things, you know can be great. You can use oils or acrylics or anything for those Those don't necessarily have to be rust that can just be dirt Right like your car can get streaky. It's not rusting. It's just dirt collected and then water ran down and the water evaporated and left the stain of of dust and and dirt, right? Uh Emily after a quick moment of experimentation led me to another question. What do you use to apply sprue grue? My trash synthetic just melted. Yes, it will do that I use the exact I use the brush That's actually in here to apply it if you like I put this I order the thing I put the sprue directly in and I use the brush that comes with it If you don't have that Uh, if you're not you working directly out of this bottle if you've mixed it in a different bottle That's fine. Um, you can Just uh use an old discarded sable brush like something natural hair because it won't melt Uh, let's see How would you go about adding enough contrast to really heavily weathered miniatures? Usually contrast of of hue as much as contrast of value Right, so rust is a fascinating thing Like it has all sorts of different colors with it and you can You can play around with yellow rusts red rusts orange rusts patinas of oxidation and and bright blue greens and turquoise and stuff like that You can still create light and shadow and variation in hue even on things that are highly Weathered, so yeah All right last 10 minutes here. So we're going to go into lightning round mode. I'm going to try to answer things quickly Uh, steven vince. What project are you most excited about working on right now? Oh the upcoming Mortal slanash. Absolutely. Whenever those I can't get those in my in my hands fast enough Uh, let's see Um, thomas. Hey, I've only bought citadel paint my whole hobby life. That's fine But I want to step up my game. I bought a wet palette, but I don't know what is a good brush set or paint starter set Thank you very much. Um, yeah, sure. Great question thomas I mean if I were just starting out and you're just branching out from citadel The answer is go get yourself a good vallejo starter set easy peasy It's got a there. There are vallejo starter sets like I think 60 bucks or something us Got a nice range of colors in it. They're very comfortable paints to work with work right on a wet palette Nothing tricky. Nothing complicated great first step Brush wise get yourself a nice raf rafael 8404 size one or size two Or a wins or newton series seven size one or size two Do not use it for everything, but do not be afraid of it either Yeah, I see people say like I'm too afraid to use my nice brush. Okay. Look, do you know how many nice brushes? I've ruined over the years. I mean this is like this is just one of 10 extra brush things I have many of these are our series seven brushes There's one. There's one. There's one. There's one. These are all series seven brushes That I've ruined over the years It happens Entropy is a thing Do not fear it That doesn't mean you have to waste it though Take proper care of your brush and it will last eventually we'll lose its tip But like get yourself one or two of each of those nicely and then um, you know use like just Synthetic brushes or stuff like that for most of your base coating work and washes and things like that and then use the The sable brush for your detail and you'll have a nice set and you're good to go Luigi, uh, hello, Vince. I'd like your to approach my first bust What would your suggestions be to have a positive experience my suggestions would be go watch my bust painting 101 video I did a whole video on My advice for when you approach a bust for the first time so easy enough um Rob are hyvins. I'm moving towards painting more for display and I'm really bored of gw minis minis. Can you recommend any other good brands? um, yeah, well There's a ton out there Um, miniac actually had a great video recently on other brands doing cool stuff So go check out his video also just go to mr. Lee's minis That's my go-to Mr. Lee is uh, that is run by some awesome folks and um They have a great fantastic range of all these other brands out there Lots different scales busts super cool stuff. Check out mr. Lee's minis. That's my That's my advice find the stuff that you like You're gonna find lots of amazing options in there Uh, greg I just bought a bunch of ak paints. Why would people not want to support them? um It's just uh, oh chat might answer that. I don't know.   Whoever's running that has no brains in their head um okay, uh Travis uh Thanks for the help on the blood angels recently and your help with picking a new aos army awesome Recommendations for airbrushing Blightlords Do so I don't know what you mean, Travis. I don't I'm sure I'm happy to help. I'm not sure. Yes airbrush them They're good. They're good for airbrushes. I don't know what you mean If you mean like a skin recipe Um, the one I use in my 24 hour ogre video would be a perfectly fine Palate for that. So you might want to go check that out if that's what you're asking Uh, all right, let's see Yep, bum bum bum Tips on lightning effects. I did a whole video recently on how to paint and model lightning. So Go watch that video. That's my advice on that. Uh, it's about moving from midtone to light in in a pulsing pattern There you go Oh, that's interesting. All baking paper has silicone in it. Hmm. Didn't know that. So yeah, must be fine Cool. Thanks james. I had no idea Uh Yeah, I hope you do. I hope you do get a good chair for christmas john athlete smith. It's not It's not like I know we joke about like, you know sitting in an uncomfortable chair. It's really not worth it If you screw up your back You will never recover from that. That will be chronic pain for your whole life It will impact your ability in every way shape and form. I watched my Father have chronic back pain and he can barely walk Um, and he's not in all he's not old. He hasn't been able to walk for 15 years Because he screwed up his back and didn't take good care of it Um, it's not a joke. It will dominate your entire life if you if you screw it up It's worth finding the money um Do not rely on youth and your sense of immortality to protect you forever Because once you lose it, then that's it and there will be no going back I was very lucky that I did not permanently damage anything. No nerves or anything like that. So there you go Um What shelves do you recommend for your miniatures thinking about picking up some display shelves to finally store my painted armies? um these These that are behind me is what I recommend. These are from Ikea Um, I do not remember what they're called. I know they're about 200 us each Both of these are actually named the same the shorter The shorter ones and the taller ones are both named the same But if you look on their their like office cabinet in shelving, you'll find them that look like this There's also a much larger bookcase. I have over here Then you can find so like there's also larger ones like various versions of the billy bookcase or whatever I think that can also work. Those are real. There's like I have another cabinet that's never on camera, but it's over here it's like 72 inches by Five feet or something like that and 18 inches there 15 inches deep. Yeah, something like that like that's where I keep a lot of stuff, too Uh, okay, uh, what lights do you recommend to add to your painting desk? Well, I have a lot of different lights. I have lights that are behind me off camera This is the normal light. I use this is an architects drafting light and you can set the The k of the light so I keep that it's on a little thing that I can then rotate out so I don't have it Blocking me uh in front of the screen, but that creates a lot of light But yes, definitely have some good light. I like those just a good drafting light like an architect would use the work for you Uh, let's see Yep, there you go. Absolutely. Michael Hanson. I couldn't agree with you more on the back stuff Um, Pedro, I'm starting a bisa cast arm You wanted to ask how to make their skin and hair for look natural as if they are actually organic Man, it's a big complicated question. Um, I've got some some, uh Flesh videos where I use Um, bisa cast way back in the early part. Um, if you go watch either of the flesh videos for, um Like how to paint Speed paint flesh. It's in the 30s. I think I did them back to back a fast skin and a detailed skin Both of those will lead you the right way. Like I think I used some revers in one of those that would work fine Um, I mean the key with the fur is the same thing I've been saying about hair It's those hashy hashy lines. That's all it is. That's how you get that naturalistic effect I did a how to paint fur video That's that do that Uh, go back and look at my how to paint fur video Uh, the most recent one like how to paint fur on a non textured surface or something like that Um, Andy Wardle also recently did one for for the Deer Guard Kickstarter with the big wolf. It's same technique Okay, uh, what chair are you using? It's this What is this thing? Fig max Something like that. It's that I think if you search for that I don't know and I got while I found it a long time ago But if you look for these various like high-end gaming chairs that have like the extra lumbar support and the top support as well That's that's what you need to do because you don't need my exact one But yeah that Uh med mirror, thanks for all you do pain's gray has been a massive upgrade. Uh tutorial our style doing harlequin style armory are Uh You might recommend. Oh someone who who's done like the diamond pattern and stuff like that. Oh gosh I'm trying to think of who did a good diamond pattern tutorial. I think victor case did one back in the day He's the only person I can think of that. I saw somebody do the diamond pattern thing I mean, I'm sure it's around there, but that's he's the only one I can think of that I remember doing one Uh Sanchin just want to say hi to your dogs and thank you for all the videos. Well good. I'm glad they helped um Let's see. Oh my gosh. I'm so far behind. Okay Lighting round. We're sticking to events. Stop answering questions. So detail me any suggestions for keeping brushes used for metallics somewhat pointy Uh, I mean, they're they're going to dive metallics shred Brushes, it's just what they do. There's not much else you can do about it You're it sounds like you're already cleaning them by packs of cheap synthetics.  Um, hey vince happy Thanksgiving. What can I do to make my pink horrors look better? Mine just look like uh monotonous magenta um Use other colors underneath like after you're done with the magenta come back from underneath with purple That's a good way to to add some additional pop and transition to it Uh rares Uh, hi vince uh big fan from ireland one question you mentioned an interview that you do not have a single artistic bone in your body It's true. How did you first of all? I don't think I am Uh, I I don't know the answer to that question, man. I don't know the answer rares I just kept at it and did a lot of deliberate practice I I I had a friend tell me recently that you're a project manager who decided to be To act like an artist and I think that's very true like that's more of what my brain is Um, I'm a much more technical sort of logical person uh You know, I joke about my heart of ice all the time but um Yeah, I don't I'm not I think I I just tried to approach it in a sort of scientific way and say You know here's what I need to work on and then work on it and fail and work on it and fail and work on it and get a little Better and a little better and lots of deliberate practice and willingness to fail and experimentation. I think that's really what it is Um, I mean, I still think I'm I definitely don't count myself in that cat in that category of painters All I do all day is look on the internet at people who I think are Amazing and everybody's are impresses me every day. I don't count myself in that that Tier or whatever. So that's fine Uh, okay Uh, what's a good way to get some practice before starting painting an expensive gw army? Uh, here's my best answer. Don't paint the army Just do it. Just paint it Okay I you cannot ruin it with paint. Just paint it You will learn more by painting something you care about and painting that army And failing at stuff and refining it and understanding than you ever will I've painted 20 full armies in my lifetime probably something like that 2022 I don't know somewhere in that range And I've never learned more Than when I'm forcing then then when I'm working my way through it each one's an evolution I know we think like oh, but it's really expensive. Oh, but it's acrylic paint Do the army Paint it You will never be good enough That you don't think you have more to learn You will never hit a point where you paint it and don't look at it two years later and go could have done better Sure, I look at my armies. I painted a couple years back and I'm like Why did I do that? That's life You can go back and paint it again I've reprimed over armies. I've painted and just painted them a second time Who cares? I didn't even strip them. I guarantee you couldn't tell if you came into my office and looked like you couldn't tell which one was which Okay Like you can go back and add more to them It's fine You just keep painting on top what you did before add more contrast for find more things clean them up Now is the time Carpe diem Carpe carnham sees the meat. All right, there you go. I hope that helped Uh, okay Removing primer from a metal mini. I use simple green 100 astone and lacquer thinner so far and a soft brush brush But still some on there. What else can I do? Uh, depending on how much is still there stop caring is the answer and just reprim over it and get painting Um, Chris. Hey vince. Thanks for your earlier reply one more question I noticed that when I try to apply acrylics over a completely dry oil paint layer the paint doesn't adhere Um, no, I always varnish in between the two So like after I oil paint I let it dry completely and then I varnish with that mix of satin and matte varnish That gives you something for the the acrylic paint to adhere to Like the oil paint is very smooth. So it's hard for the acrylic paint to grip That's why I put a layer of varnish over it Uh Yep, ellie's totally awesome is a good stripper Uh Well, thank you tp. I'm always happy to help Is canned compressed air good enough for air brushing I've seen some of those little things I don't I don't know. I've never used it. I couldn't answer that question I've always used a compressor. They're not that big. They're not that loud It seems way easier and less costly than buying a bunch of canned air So I don't know like in the long run. It just feels like that is a way more expensive proposition, but Uh Okay Oh, yes, that is one of my cup of old brushes There are five cups of brushes sitting around me here as well as a whole drawer as well as multiple stacks I have I don't even know any paint brushes I have Lot for no reason Uh, let's see What's in the water bottle And this is that what you're asking what I'm drinking good old-fashioned sand Pellegrino Uh sparkling natural mineral water made by my people. It's delicious It's crisp Uh bog will you ever do an updated contrast paint guide loved your first one? But I've seen a lot of cool things people have done since maybe it'd be more like an other tricks You can do with contrast paints. I mean I use them a lot. So I don't know Um Okay, very good. Let's see Do you ever feel intimidated to paint a fig? No No, I never feel intimidated. It's so tiny. I could super beat it up. Look at this guy Look at this guy.  I don't care if that axe is real He's so small. How is he going to intimidate me? I'm not scared of this thing.  You learn something you strip it you paint it again. Are you just paint over it? Who cares?  You had learning experiences Failure is the best way to learn Never be intimidated by some by by a figure now That being said you can be intimidated by certain things You might try on the fig like oh, I want to do a moonlit osl glow here with glowing green crystals But also a cracking in or lava and I want to have the base painted in all obsidian with spiked through pearls Stop Wheel all of that back, right? So Techniques can push you out of your comfort zone and that's fine You shouldn't like if you're if you have no idea how to approach technique and you shouldn't just like And cannonball into it, right? But the fig itself the fig itself is just a thing. It's just cloth and metal and flesh and textures It's nothing you haven't painted before it might be bigger might be more complicated But you can do it break it down Right. It's just belts and armor and flesh and steel. There's nothing more Nothing less And you can do it uh, okay Uh This read is a events. I should buy a cheap airbrush dedicated to varnishes or should I be brave enough to varnish with my heart and see back Yeah, I mean so two thoughts on that one. I do have a specific airbrush I use for varnishing it's the same one I use for like priming and base coating So I I don't I don't put varnish through my really nice air brushes that being said you it's not like you can't just kill That out as long as you if you rinse your airbrush with ice propyl alcohol directly after you varnish You'll melt any acrylic varnish right out from inside of it Um, but I I do like having a cheap airbrush specifically for varnishing. So Um Yeah, that's what they're called z plet said the shelves look like they are fabric or that's the one that's what they are There you go. Thank you z plet. That's an Ikea master right there Uh, james if you are a large and or tall person They do make chairs that will fit you like the one vint has it's more expensive, but so worth it. Yep. I agree Uh, let's see Kujo did a good series on harlequins. Oh, there you go. Yep. Check that out then. Yes Uh Your marvel effect video is helpful just wondering if you have tried the baby white method before I have not I'm going to actually be trying that for an upcoming project So, uh, you may see some videos on it because I do want to actually give that a try Um This product is this product is not sponsored. There's videos not sponsored and other water brands are available. Yes, indeed Uh, okay, john ashley smith. I used to I used to spare Tired after my start airbrush and you need to really work if you wanted to airbrush pump. Nice. Yeah Oh Do you consume media when you are hobbying? Yes all the time? I cannot hobby in silence Usually your podcast or youtube videos. I'm grateful to everybody who makes content. I watch everybody's videos everybody's videos Everybody's painting videos. They're fantastic because it's just stuff I have on in the background that I'm listening to and I was trying to learn um How would you paint spats? I am painting a fairly big model who has spats I don't really know how to go about it. The model is one sixth scale Oh gosh I don't know. I have no idea on that one.  They don't seem that large so Yeah, I mean probably I would move them into the cold white and use a nice soft blue gray as my shadow colors That's what I think I would do Okay, all right Yes, John Ashley Smith says a master has failed more times than a beginner has tried. Yes, absolutely I absolutely agree with that People think that when you get good at stuff you stop failing. No you fail all the time You just generally have an idea of how to recover from your failure um How would you approach a freehand flame apart from the fault tricks of bright colors at the bottom?  That's all it is just a swoopy line Uh, Vince are you as tall as sam and uncle adam? I think uncle adam and I are the same heights Sam is taller than me sam's quite tall Uh, so I but I think I think uncle adam and I are about the same height Uh, there you go. So That's a that's a fun question. All right last question Uh, John Jay, uh, what is an above average method at doing black death watch armor? Well, that's an easy answer I happen to have two different videos. I've done recently on painting black one with oils one with acrylics My answer would be go watch either of those that there are actually two methods in the acrylic video And all of them will give you really nice results for something like death watch So go check those two vids out and uh, I'm sure amongst those three techniques You'll be able to find something that will give you what you're looking for Uh, I am taller than five nine by quite by I mean by by a fair amount. I suppose Uh, I'm not that short That's what everybody says when they meet me that I'm taller than they think because I'm always sitting low in a chair Like oftentimes when I'm doing the show I sit like this Which is just not great, but I'm a sloucher Uh, anyways, so there you go. Thank you everybody fantastic questions today um So I very much appreciate all of it. I hope you did too. Like I said, if you're here in the states happy Thanksgiving If your other place is in the world Happy thursday. I hope everybody has a safe and wonderful holiday if you're celebrating or if not I hope you have a safe and wonderful whatever day of the week it is Uh, and I hope you've had a great Year so far and I hope it rounds out being uh, even better despite all of the challenges we've had this year I as I said on my previous wednesday show. I am very grateful for all of you for this hobby And for this entire community. Um, the miniature painting community is one of the most positive Wonderful engaging places. Um, I love to be part of it. I'm proud to be part of it. I'm proud to call all of you friends So thank you so much. Uh, give this a like Subscribe obviously you haven't already. We'll be back next month next month being another holiday month I should have plenty of time to do another q and a so certainly hope to then Uh, but uh, as always I very much appreciate you watching this one We'll see you next time


Man if you are an artist back in like the Ming dynasty, you are probably educated on some level So it's a lot of the a certain class of person is creating all this media back then It's not necessarily like we said like the poor athletic strong Farmer is not painting and writing his own history. We're talking about the educated scholar class that is writing and painting history So of course they're going to paint people probably more in their image Which I don't fully blame them because the winners or the educated class always write history Whether it's the people who can actually write Chinese back then which not everybody could I would say people who had the skills to paint So who had the skills to paint it was the painters and the artists and the painters and artists They're not the most maybe typically asking


When we're hacking the surgery, what we want to do is try to connect in the spine. We want to connect the surgeons with engineers, with designers, with business groups to vibe with each other, to inspire each other, to have great ideas, to make health care better. Really what we want to do today is not necessarily to build anything in particular, but it's really to get people started. There are five billion people on the planet without access to safe surgery. Global surgery is a massive part of it. The benefits are here because plastic surgery is a new specialty, but it's a specialty which innovation is called. And we really think that people are so motivated within our specialty. As an innovation company we really want to be the vehicle to really help inspire innovation, help those clinicians who have ideas to really take it from the idea phase to potentially commercialize people. So we're here at the Health Care Innovation Hackathon, the first of its kind. The great thing about it is we have some of the best and brightest of the respective fields in business, medical, the designers, we have tech gurus. When I invest in early stage teams it's very often not very much to go on other than the team itself. So early stage investing is all about people finding great teams who are passionate about what they're trying to do, but in my experience the people who really succeed are the people who are solving a problem they've come across personally and are trying to change the world. Playing with workloads they're called to get by, but to be able to step out, step into the world of startups and building businesses will completely change people's mindset. The opportunity for surgeons and physicians who are here today is to meet people who can help them solve other problems which they can't themselves solve and build a product. This is my first experience of a hackathon and it's been fantastic. Really interesting to get a whole load of different perspectives from people from different sectors on a whole range of medical topics. I mean this weekend was really valuable but it's not very often that you get to be in a room with so many experts in their fields. To be able to network with individuals and come out with something that actually we could take on to develop funding and create company. Today I learned was to open up my mind and taking other concepts that are needed to build a business. Just to kind of have some fun, you know meet some people with different backgrounds with different interests and kind of come together work as a team and just see if we can come up with something new and exciting. It's very interesting, not just about sort of getting some prize at the end but also going through that journey understanding the different elements that put together a company.


I'm extremely excited about making the team. Obviously, Luke's injury is disheartening for everyone. I wish him a speedy and full recovery. I had him in his surgery in 2014. So I know what he's going through right now. He's obviously a big part of this team, and my goal is not to come here to replace Luke Boyd. It's to be J Bruce and help the team, just like I plan on helping the team when I sign the contract to come here. So I'm extremely grateful for the opportunity, and I look forward to continuing towards the gold winner in World Series. A couple of days ago when I opted out, I thought a lot about it and talked to a lot of people that I trust. And I felt the best thing for me was to stay away from the club until the decision was made, because trying to protect myself as far as I didn't want to get hurt or do anything, I didn't feel like there was, it was diminished return if I came and did just worked out and stuff. And I literally knew nothing until just very, very recently. So I just sat at my house and kind of felt like I was quarantining, honestly. But yeah, so a lot of nothing. And then it all hit pretty quickly. I was just waiting on the anchors. I was waiting on them to let me know. Clearly, this is where I've wanted to be and this is why I signed here. So I was very hopeful the whole time, like I told you all before, and it worked out. I feel like it's been good. I feel like there's a lot of things that I need to work on and want to continue to work on. But I'm confident that I can play a very adequate first base. And with the more practice, I think I can be good over it. And it sounds like I'm going to get a lot more of an opportunity to be there pretty exclusively, I guess, for the foreseeable future here. And I look forward to being able to focus on that and there's a lot of work to do what I'm looking forward to. It's reps, I think it's repetitions, it's work. It's, you know, the more you do something and the more you prepare for something, the more, you know, the more you prepare for something in a controlled environment, I think the more prepared you become in the game situations. So I've been very fortunate that Aaron, you know, and the Yankees have given me a lot of, you know, looks over there and a lot of exposure over there, the spring training and that's helped. And I think just continuing to practice and continuing to kind of just drill it, drill it, drill it, you know, to where, you know, the more you do something, the more comfortable you become with it. So I look forward to getting even more comfortable with it than I am right now. I played first base until I was 14 years old, pretty exclusively. And then I moved to the outfield. So I've, you know, throughout my career and throughout my life, I've taken a lot of ground balls and I would take ground balls when I was with the Reds to kind of work on my hands for the outfield because I think that a lot of it correlates. And so, you know, throughout my career there, you know, Freddie Benavides helped me a lot and, you know, I watched Joey Vado and I talked to him a lot about it. And he's someone that's very diligent and specific with his work. And I got to watch that and kind of, you know, see how he goes about it.  And so, but I, you know, have worked here and, you know, these guys have been great for me as far as the work and the routine goes. And I'm still learning a lot about, you know, kind of forming and having a daily routine when it comes to infield work.