ts throughout the evening as well as just noise and disruptions for individuals within the safe parking program we looked at proximity to neighborhood schools and childcare facilities lighting invisibility ability to accommodate large vehicles environmental concerns and community benefit that was largely related to our parks and our recreation facilities fire risk, proximity to services and geographic distribution we also looked at former and existing safe parking sites ¿Quién es el siguiente slide, por favor? Así que este es el slide que compartimos con el consejo durante la sesión de estudios en el mes de julio hay tres districciones de consejos donde no hemos identificado el sitio potencial para el parque safe y la dirección que recibimos recibimos desde el consejo en el momento en que por favor, vamos a volver y evaluamos los sitios y regresamos al consejo con al menos un sitio identificado en cada de los 7 districciones de consejos y hemos hecho así con el siguiente slide, por favor así que quiero recordar aquí que estos sitios no son ideal pero son las mejores opciones en cada de los districciones de consejos y si el consejo se siente que estos no son ideales para el parque safe y quiera mover con el parque safe podemos ciertamente llegar a nuestros parque de comunidad para identificar sitios más altos que estos aquí en el slide también quiero mencionar sé que hay alguna preocupación en recibir comentarios públicos sobre estos sitios potenciales quiero mencionar al menos de la perspectiva de los staff hoy es menos sobre estos sitios y más sobre si el consejo quiere hacer un programa de parque safe si nos movemos adelante con eso y identificamos cualquier de estos sitios para el parque safe vamos a estar haciendo un parque de comunidad y también buscando input público entonces hoy es sobre un parque safe y el staff es simplemente seguido con la dirección de el consejo para identificar sitios potenciales dentro de cada de los sitios entonces déjame un segundo voy a poner mi info para los sitios de parque de comunidad para que pueda viajar un poco, un poco un poco algunos de los sitios pros y cons de cada de estos sitios con ustedes entonces para el consejo 1 hay 7 sitios que hemos visto en julio, hemos identificado el former Bennett Valley Senior Center pero la ciudad se ha entrado en, desde ese momento un acuerdo exclusivo de negociación con el desarrollador para el futuro desarrollo de ese sitio así que no es más disponible la siguiente mejor opción fue el parque de comunidad del sur no voy a viajar los sitios pros y cons de cada de los 100 sitios que hemos visto simplemente los que se identifican en el slide entonces para el parque de comunidad del sur en términos de pros tenemos una visibilidad buena no es directamente agresiva a la escuela o a los sitios de parque de comunidad a la risa de fuego y su habilidad para acomodar los vehículos grandes en términos de cons certamente impacta el beneficio de la comunidad y eso sería el caso para algunos de nuestros parques y sitios y no voy a listar ese con con cada de los parques que se identifican aquí pero justa, justa que es una preocupación que tenemos que tomar en consideración impacta a las facilidades que están utilizadas por la comunidad en términos de beneficio de la comunidad y también en el parque de sábado en el parque de sábado es no necesariamente cerca de nuestros servicios de coro en la ciudad de downtown y luego de ir a la ciudad 2 hemos visto 12 sitios en esta ciudad y el grupo recomendó el centro de la Bricuad y la ciudad de la Bricuad en términos de la Bricuad el centro de la Bricuad tendríamos que coordinar con las operaciones de la existencia del centro de la salud y hemos llegado a ellos llegados a ellos para darles un pedazo de que podríamos discutir el sitio esta noche en términos de pros para este sitio no es directo adhesivo a una escuela o una facilidad de carácter hay un riesgo de low fire la proximidad para los servicios es un beneficio aquí y también no es un parque así que no estamos preocupados sobre los impactos de la comunidad esto es un pequeño sitio y así no podríamos acomodar grandes vehículos y probablemente sólo 5 sitios podrían ser acomodados allí y kelly la ciudad de la Bricuad solo para la claridad decir que eso es la Bricuad ¿correcto? no la ciudad de la Bricuad así que la ciudad de la Bricuad es la ciudad de la Bricuad a través de la Bricuad la ciudad de la Bricuad es a través de la Bricuad de la Bricuad pero en en la ciudad de la Bricuad hay un poco de un sentimiento es por algunas oficinas de negocio y la Bricuad ok, gracias perdón, no tengo un visual para ti yo tengo un mapa en el próximo slide pero es difícil ver este lugar particular en ese mapa pero eso es kelly, creo que solo para entrar creo que a la mayoría de las personas no saben que ese parque existe ok es un es un es un es un poco absurdo es es, y es muy cerca de la 7 pero no es la 7 es alrededor de la ciudad sí en términos de pros por el sitio hay un poco de riesgo y tú sabes el beneficio de la comunidad minimal no es un parque cons tú sabes es un no es un no es un no es un no es un tú sabes el beneficio de la comunidad no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un no es un de los vehículos, en términos de cons, es right next to a school in a residential area, a community park, and far out on the east side of Santa Rosa is, you know, not the best site for proximity to services. Moving on to District 4, we evaluated 16, or we looked at 16 sites in this district and Franklin Community Park was identified as the best option. I has good visibility at least a la parte de la ciudad, y a la parte de la ciudad. So, I'm going to be doing a lot, and low fire risk, but definitely concerns around community benefit, this is a park, there's also a preschool that's operated there and is close to residential area. It's also a small lot, so it would be hard to accommodate larger vehicles. Kelly, I have a quick question. What impact around PSPS? And adjacent to that question is do, would the expectation be that everybody would pack up during the day? I know you said it's overnight only, but so you sleep there and then you move your RV or your tent during the day. So this is for vehicles only. So vehicles and RVs are trailers, not for tents, and it is overnight only. So with a sort of traditional safe parking program, the program that Catholic Charities operated a few years ago and then a very well known program in the Santa Barbara area operated through a nonprofit called New Beginnings, they are overnight only. And they have been very successful programs, but the expectation is that you leave during the day and I'll touch on that as an overarching concern about an overnight only program. But in terms of PSPS, that's not something that we took into consideration with their evaluation. If we're going to move forward with any of these sites, we would definitely have to look at that. Thank you. You're welcome. District 5, there were 34 properties in this district to evaluate and we identified three potential locations in this area. So starting with Finlay Community Park, we certainly know that we could operate a program there based on our experience with the Safe Social Distancing Program. But the parking lot that is closer to the park is a better option for this program. There's good visibility. It's not directly adjacent to a school. Low fire risk and having it in the parking lot close to the park, minimizes the impacts to the community center. And then ACON, definitely, you know, the Finlay Complex offers a lot of services for our community. So we have to weigh the community benefit impacts there. Then I have Northwest Community Park. There's good visibility there at least on the front lot. That street facing, there's low fire risk and ability to accommodate large vehicles. And in terms of cons, it is close to a school residential area and is a park. So again, the concerns around community benefit. I'm almost done here. Let's see City Hall is the last site identified in District 5. And again, good visibility, not directly adjacent to school, child care facility or a neighborhood. Low fire risk. We could accommodate large vehicles there. And then in terms of cons, just geographic distribution. It's proximity to locations in District 2. And I'll point that out in the next slide with the map. District 6. We identified Youth Community Park for its visibility, ability to accommodate large vehicles and it's not directly adjacent to a child care facility. However, it is close to school and a residential area. And we have had issues with encampments at that park and increased fire risk. Lastly, District 7. We looked at 14 properties in this district and identified 2. Going back to the July 7 council meeting, we initially identified Sam Jones Hall as a potential location given co-location with an existing facility that offers homeless services and shelter. However, that's no longer an option given that the sprung structure was 8,000 feet was constructed on the parking lot and could not have safe parking there now. But we did identify a place to play for its visibility, ability to accommodate large vehicles and it's not directly adjacent to school or child care facility. However, it is a park and so there's the community benefit concern. It's also a staging site for emergency operations. Lastly, the utility fields office. This site has good visibility can accommodate large vehicles and is not directly adjacent to school, child care, residential. However, we do have to take into consideration emergency operations at that site and geographic distribution given its proximity to District 5 and the Finlay Community Center. Just real quick overarching concern that the group raised with the safe parking program and to your point, Council Member Fleming, the safe parking program as proposed this afternoon is overnight only not 24-7 so there are concerns just with daytime use and daytime impacts to our parks or areas surrounding these potential safe parking sites. I do feel that we could address those and the team is willing to work through those concerns but I did want to raise that as an overarching concern. Next slide please. This is my last slide for safe parking and then I can take a break if you have any questions that you might have about this. I'll just throw it out there that this slide is much better live or using your web browser this is a screenshot and has some limitations but it does at least give you a visual of the sites that I just covered in the previous slide so the orange dots those are the potential locations one in each of the seven council districts I want to point out the red district in this slide is district one however when I scaled it to fit the slide I lost the district and a couple other things so you can see in district five there's a concentration around a number of sites there we have city hall, we have east street lot six and the brookwood health center so something just to take into consideration about sites in that area and then the utilities field office looks like it's in district five but it's actually in district seven it's just right on the border there but those sites the UFO and family community park are very close to one another another couple points to make in this slide before we move on to questions about safe parking would be the green dots as I mentioned we do have three faith based partners participating in the community homeless assistance program offering safe parking we have the first united Methodist church and they're in district seven they're probably the longest standing safe parking program in Santa Rosa they previously worked with Catholic Charities and Catholic Charities ran that program for the county they offer up to ten spots at their church property they've downsized that church sorry they've downsized their program during the pandemic up in council district five we have redwood forest friends that's a relatively new program safe parking program coming online I think in the last six months and they offer six safe parking spots there looks like our clerk is trying to zoom in here thank you and then lastly we have Christ United Methodist church and they offer three safe parking spots we did have a site in council district six it was McBride safe parking that was made available by a private property owner and homeless action and that provided 20 safe parking spots but that site closed down as that property is slated for affordable housing and just one more quick point here there was greater participation from our faith based community with safe parking when there was a program operator so under Catholic Charities program there was greater participation from the faith based community and they've expressed a willingness to participate in this program moving forward if there were a program operator to assist with that with that I'll take questions on the safe parking program before we move on to alternative shelter alright let's start with council member Sawyer thank you mayor and thank you Kelly for again a great presentation two things I'm going to be curious to hear how the success was achieved in the other area in California that had a program not unlike this one number two is there will of course be situations where someone is able to bring the vehicle in and because of one reason or another we've all experienced breakdowns one description or another and they can't remove it the next morning is the one does the 165 contain within it the potential for having to tow vehicles out of these various sites in the morning it's an excellent question and it does not and something I've thought about adding as an afterthought as well as a fund or resources to help people repair their vehicles if they need help with that but that 165 is the baseline budget just to have a safe place to sleep and have access to sanitary facilities okay thank you did I answer your question about the I think you might have had a question about the Santa Barbara program yeah unless you want to do it as a closing but I am curious what made them successful yeah so I think you know I don't have their program outcomes in front of me but having read through they have a program manual they put together that other communities are looking at it's really about simply providing people a safe place to stay the night in their vehicles so you know they're not victimized while they're living in their vehicles but also so that they're not asked to move along and then you know with the ultimate goal I know that they have had some success in getting these people into permanent solutions so into housing that living in your vehicle your RV is not the end all and I think that's what the success of the program really is and then also managing concerns around where are they going to go in the daytime and how is that going to impact the surrounding community and based on reading through their program manual and also speaking with Catholic Charities there are program agreements that you can have in place with clients that are participating in the program that require them to essentially be good neighbors and based on Catholic Charities experience people wanted to participate in the program and were willing to comply with those program rules and be good neighbors well given the relative affluence of Santa Barbara I was particularly curious as to how they not only sold the program to the community but continued its success that is a it would be a challenging community to come up with a successful program so I appreciate the information it just tells you and when given the right tools Council Member Fleming Thank you Mayor and thanks again Kelly for quite a comprehensive review of locations throughout our city it's always neat to see where our assets are distributed and where they make sense to go I do have a question which goes back to it's not about PSPS but it is about the ongoing nature of fires in our city and I get the urge to want to distribute these evenly throughout the city and certainly my district is one that can accommodate something like this without it being in the way or too far on the east side of town but I do start to wonder about the wisdom of placing these and I know that you're responding to a council request but one of these in every district I'm wondering if you have any thoughts about and this might be a fire marshal question or something like that about you know would we perhaps in a year or two years hopefully we'll never have another fire again but look at this as like what were we thinking when we put a whole bunch of extra vehicles on the east side of people living in them rather than you know easily evacuated areas and the second question would be if we do do these would your team be prepared to have evacuation routes and prep the residents on how to best evacuate and would people be in stable locations and I'm peppering you with a lot of questions and they don't all need to be answered right now but with the residents I see you Sean hold on one second would the residents then be able to be in stable locations so that they don't have to learn a new evacuation route depending on the day go ahead Sean so I think these are really legitimate questions councilmember I think we need to go back and do some additional analysis based on that I think staff was doing what you suggested back in July legitimately trying to get it through a exercise where we would provide that spread but I would you know actually since July we've had the second incursion within the city limits I think we're all really conscious of that and I would request that that we actually really look at that particular issue in lieu of the glass fire I don't think we've asked enough questions about it and so I would ask that we take this for what it is which was what Kelly said it was which was a very preliminary exercise but we need to ask those questions and this is in no way meant to diminish the amazing work that's been done here but just to put out like that you know since we gave direction a while ago you know we've had much more frequent devastation and it just seems hard to justify going forward we as a staff concur and I just want to make sure that we'll look at that and I'm going to say right now we need to do that work Thank you Council Member Sweatham Thank you Mr. Mayor Thank you for this Kelly because it is has been mentioned is exactly what we're looking for again going back to the regional approach to this and I know this wasn't an ask of you but have there been any discussions with county representatives regarding county property located in the jurisdiction of Santa Rosa Santa Rosa I'm going to step in here because I was having this conversation with the city manager earlier today and I'm going to ask him to take it So I was specifically we've asked this question on repeated occasions about the availability of the fairgrounds the answer that I was given was that the right now that that would require the Board of Supervisors on staffing and resources and the location and that the Board is not scheduled to formally address issues around homelessness on its calendar until August so I that was the answer I was given I think that that may have been an abbreviation I think there are other issues on going on but I was told the next formal conversation will take place in August of this year Great, thank you for that information and thank you for all this information Kelly for you and your team because I think it's not only great information for the seven of us before our entire community because I think all of us receive the emails about why aren't you doing this, why aren't you doing that and I think you've just outlined some of the challenges with any of the city property so I really appreciate this investigation and we're going to continue this discussion thank you I'll piggyback on the city manager's comments just a little bit I did ask that that request be made prior to this study session because I know that that is something that all of us have questions about or get questions about from the public and if the council would like in advance of that discussion in August for the Board of Supervisors I'm also happy to formally write a letter requesting that consideration from the council I believe it would be the third mayor in a row from Santa Rosa who has written that letter but I'm happy to do that again with that I'll go on to the vice mayor Hi Kelly again thank you for the presentation thus far I did have a question about the safe parking program and the different programs that were outlined between basic program operator and the housing focus program have we ever thought about into something that could be possibly a hybrid with the basic and the program operator having a peer a peer run kind of a program it's one of the options that we're presenting here this evening but if council is interested in moving forward with a safe parking program we would go out for a request for a proposal seeking a program operator so we're not tied to these budgets or these program models these are just estimates we put together based on our knowledge of safe parking programs so an agency is welcome to submit a model which sort of aligns with what you're suggesting here with peer support but I think in order to get funding from the city of Santa Rosa you would have to be at least a non-profit a 501C3 ok, thank you councilmember Fleming did you have more to add? yeah, I really just I know that this is not the time for comments but I can't wait for that they're not taking this up till August is that what I heard? again the communication I received was that the next formal scheduled to talk discussion item on this on their calendar was in August at this time ok Mr. Mayor you made a suggestion of sending a letter to them ahead of that August meeting I would like to express my desire to have us all send a communication way sooner than that asking for them to take this up or at least give us a response to this I know that this gets into some other territory we can talk about that during the regularly scheduled meeting but I will be recommending something along those lines I think that this is ludicrous so and I will work with staff to get that letter out here in the next week thank you Mr. Mayor councilmember Alvarez I agree now I believe this conversation was carried forth from July I as Natalie were not on the council then but I myself and I can't speak for Natalie were more than happy to jump in during that conversation was the topic of 24 hours ever discussed during that conversation or safe parking the first step of inquiring the process on how to help the RV campers so councilmember Alvarez I'll be discussing alternative shelter in the next slides and that's a 24-7 model what we're looking at right now is an overnight program but you can certainly have a 24-7 safe parking program thank you alright thank you councilmember and then Kelly I just want to thank you as well I was chuckling when I saw the list particularly for district 5 having 34% of the sites to evaluate I completely get that it's because it's downtown and that's where the city owns property and that's what you were asked to do and it was nice to see that there's many many many options in that district or right around it I hear you councilmember Fleming about PSPS and about fire potential I think we absolutely do need to evaluate that but I also just want to point out to the council that when we talk about socioeconomics in this city and disparities that exist and in particular when we talk about the location of our homeless services there's always going to be good reasons to push that into southwest Santa Rosa where it has always traditionally been and that doesn't mean that that's where we should continue to go as a council so yes we need to evaluate it but at the same time I want to make sure that we're cognizant of those disparities that have been created that make this easier for us to go that path and try to really chart a different course for our community where we're not asking the same places that have shouldered the load to continue to shoulder the load and yes that means that we might have to end up with some less than ideal placements with evacuation planning or other types of resources to make it work for those couple of months but I really want to hold this council to the commitment that they made that they are going to start to spread this throughout our community and also we're going to hold our partners, the county and other jurisdictions accountable for their commitments to do their part as well to spread this throughout the county because it is a regional approach so I did want to throw that out there as well Councilmember Alvarez did you want to make a comment your hand popped back up there I do actually, I appreciate the comment that you just made and I was going to reserve my question so after a public comment but seeing that I've been given the opportunity to make a comment I'll do so I was taking a look at the list and I was going to suggest that sites that we're looking at aren't closely connected to a creek or waterways or parks such as even the youth center and district number 7 I believe 6 I believe and the reason being is during the days I'm happy here that our transient folks are looking to be good neighbors but from experience and seeing that there's a large open area where we can explore during the day I would hate to see the detriment that could be caused to the environment and surrounding areas 5, 6 y 7 with the parks that they have adjacent to the property or sites that you identify thank you alright thank council and with that I will send that letter as was requested if it works for the council I'll formally ask for partnership or even just utilization of the space at the farm excuse me the county fair site the veterans hall and the county complex and ask the county for if not partnership and funding at least allowing the utilization of that spot for the program that we're considering here in Santa Rosa so can I can I ask that there's a couple meetings taking place this week including one with your representative member Shwedum moving into an ad hoc with the other cities can we at least get through those conversations before we pin the letter because it may be a more expansive ask than even just a property conversation it may be a baseline collaboration conversation that's part of the reason we've re engineered where Kelly and her fabulous group of two herself and her colleague work in the city manager's office to try to get some of these things addressed and I would like to include that in the conversation so I'm just requesting that when we pin the letter that it may be a wider ask about a conversation about how we work together as a region if that I'm seeing works for everybody I'll circle back with councilmember Shwedum first and then work with the city manager and his team on that okay Kelly do you want to keep going sorry go ahead councilmember soya really fast really fast you know although I'm incredulous as to the response if I wouldn't want to do anything today that would jeopardize our communication with our regional partners as much as I would love to I think it's important that we show that kind of participation and not letting the waters while we try to do the good work on the other side but it certainly would give me no small amount of glee to send that letter out yesterday and that's part of what I'm asking is that we assume there's a lot going on there's a lot of challenges that everyone's facing right now I just I think it was an unfortunate response to the question and I don't I want to make sure that we're walking in assuming good intent and maybe calling attention to an issue I think I just received a a engineered response to a question maybe not a full when we talk about it fully since councilmember Sawyer's point I just want to make sure that we're walking in with a good intent because I think there's a lot of positive energy out there.