It's Friday night in the A and you know what that means. Kelly Price and Tori McElhady coming at you on Rise Up Tonight, presented by AT&T. I don't know about y'all, but it has been a week. Sunday's game, which we're about to talk about, feels like it was a decade ago, Tori. I honestly feel like I've aged seven years in seven days. It's what it feels like. It really does feel like that for whatever reason. Well, the Falcons entered Sunday's matchup in Tampa with a chance to take control of first place in the NFC South and to get over 500 for the first time since the end of the 2017 season. It didn't quite go that way. Let's head off about it. Let's have a look with Kelly and Tori on the world of Falcons football. And you know where we're gonna start. The end of the game, about three minutes remaining. The Falcons defensive line executed one of the most beautiful stunts I think I've seen. Had Grady Jarrett breaking free, straight for Tom Brady, he wrapped him up, took him to the ground, fourth down would be fourth, and the Falcons offense had a fighting chance. Well, at least that's what everyone thought. Jarrett was flagged for roughing the passer. The excitement was an instantly deflated like those footballs that Brady likes. Jarrett and Arthur Smith didn't wanna talk too much about it, but here's what some of the other Falcons said.  Like it wasn't anything extra on the greatest part, but I guess the referee seen it the other way and you know, had we got the ball, should probably wouldn't be sitting in here, you know, sad and mad about the outcome of this game. You know, speaking on Grady's penalty, I don't think there's really any teaching points that we can run off of. I feel like we just gotta continue to play hard, continue to, you know, be in a position to make plays like that, and you know, just keep pushing forward. To Graham's point, maybe not exactly a teachable moment. Is there anything that Jarrett could have done differently there, Tori? No, nothing, literally nothing. He literally could not do and should not do anything differently. Why? Because that's a pretty dang close to perfect sack. And that's pretty much what Grady Jarrett said himself. He said, looking back on it, he was still left clueless on what exactly he's expected to do in that situation. And I'm here to say Grady, man, just keep doing what you did because from my vantage point, and I think from a lot of people's vantage point, what you did was clean. Have pretty much as close to a textbook tackle as you could get, but I'll say what I heard every Falcon say in that losing locker room on Sunday afternoon. That call would not have been a death sentence to the Falcons had it put themselves in an early hole. They were down 21, nothing heading into that final quarter. Even Kyle Pitts said this week he was yelling at his TV, watching at home. Why do you think it takes this team such a long time to really get going? How do they fix that going forward? Yeah, you're absolutely right. But to answer your question, the offense put themselves in way too many third and long situations. They were really struggling to move the ball on first and second downs. That didn't fly against the Bucks and it's definitely not going to fly against the 49ers who have the best defense in the league currently. Even if this offense is picking up two or three yards on first down, then it's much better than what they were doing the first half against Tampa. And I really do feel like this is the key to any offensive success that they may or may not have. Right. Well, not having Kyle Pitts and Cordero Patterson on Sunday was a huge loss, obviously, but I'm not sure that's why Marcus Mariota went nine of 18 for 84 yards through those first three quarters and why the Falcons were outgained by more than 200 yards in the first half alone. It takes everyone on the field to execute, of course. I can point to a number of key drops, a season high five sacks on Mariota, but how does the offense kind of regroup, rebound as it prepares for a tough 49ers defense, as you said. They're going to have to put up some points before the fourth quarter this Sunday. Yeah, exactly. We were actually talking to Marcus Mariota on Wednesday and he said he feels like the struggles on third down and in the red zone or something that he feels like he talks about each week and he was like, look, I get it. Until we do better as an offense in those scenarios, it's going to continue to be a topic of conversation as it should be. And it sounds so simple, but it really is in the details with the Falcons right now. This offense not getting in its own way with missed assignments, drop passes, and of course, untimely penalties. When they play clean, they're competitive. Right. Well, a slow start on the field for the Falcons maybe, but they were coming in hot with some pre-game looks. I'm not going to lie, this might have been the hardest cut down of the season for us. Let's take a look at Sunday's best Falcons fits. First up, A.J. Turrell with the tropical flare. I love when guys lean into a theme. Like right here, we're leaning into the fact that you're playing in Florida.  We are keeping the summer vibes flowing. And he's the founder and creator of Turrell Island after all. Isn't he?  Island boy, if you get that reference. Thank you for that. All right. Now for Chris Lindstrom making his Falcons fifth debut. This is just a dapper look for the offensive lineman. I love an executed, well-executed, simple look like this suit. Doesn't need to be flashy, but I do really love the subtle gradient pattern going on here. I'd love to see it completed with the suit jacket. Yeah, Chris. Break out the jacket next time. Hopefully he will wear this fit again and the next time he wears it, also hopefully it won't be 80 degrees like it was in Tampa on Sunday. Yeah, that might explain why he wasn't wearing the jacket. Been a minute since we talked about a Grady Jarrett outfit. This seems like a good week to continue talking about all the great things that number 97 is doing. Big fan of the bold print in this shirt. Of course, you know it's Louis Vuitton because Grady always dresses designer accentuating up top with some ice, both wrists, let all the quarterbacks know here. I get paid to take you guys down. Grady Jarrett is one of my favorite people to watch on Sundays for two reasons. One, because of what he does on the field, egregious penalty or no. And two, because his fits are always fire. Always. He never fails. The man is so consistent. Finally, the man who is becoming the king of falcons fits also consistent, Kaderrill Hodge. We've got a green leather pants. We've got a simply printed casual shirt. We've got fresh sunglasses and we've got an entire vibe going on here, Tori. Kaderrill Hodge just keeps showing up. I mean, he has a tulip shirt. How could we not include him in this week's fits? Also, question, do we think that his favorite color is green? Because I feel like we've seen him in various shades of green almost every single week. I honestly love it. I think that's a good take. And green is my favorite color, so I'm here for that for sure. Well, with the Braves in the NLDS, we have baseball on the mind as well. So what would some of the guys' walk-up songs be? That's our question of the week. Drip too hard, because I'll sweat a lot. I'll probably be sweating when I walk up. As an alignment, you know, I listed a lot of really messed-up music because I'm getting ready to try and rip somebody's face off with my face, you know? No matter how hard you try, you know? So I'd say a fair estimation would be a one-by-metallica. Enter Sandman's very big, big-metallica fan. Or Disturbed, huge Disturbed fan too. What's that one? The Undertaker. The Undertaker, I like that one. My favorite part is how Rashawn just, like, deadpans in the camera. I like that song, it's scary. I mean, I need to understand why he strikes fear in so many, which is, you know, if that's the look he gets on Sunday. And all those intense metal songs, I guess it's the mindset you want your guys to have if they're hitting other guys. It makes sense, I mean, I support it. As Caleb said, tearing people's faces off, apparently. All right, well, still to come here on Rise Up Tonight, a really interesting conversation with the creative mind behind some of your favorite Dirty Bird merch. And of course, we're talking about the return of those red helmets. And the Falcons prepped for game day by giving back to our neighbors in the Sunshine State. That story is next on Rise Up Tonight. Rise Up Tonight is presented by AT&T and brought to you by Georgia Lottery. Today could be the day. By Home Depot, how doers get more done? By Mercedes Benz, the best of nothing. And by Truist, committed to a better future. Before the Buccaneers and Falcons clash on the gridiron last Sunday, they came together for a greater good, helping those affected by Hurricane Ian. As we rise up for Atlanta, brought to you by Truist. On Saturday, staff from both teams and their families visited the Sarasota headquarters of the American Red Cross to put together comfort kits and kids care packages, along with writing notes of encouragement for those devastated by Hurricane Ian. In collaboration with the Sarasota NAACP, volunteers delivered the kids care packages, provided games, and visited with members of the light of the world international church. Falcons president and CEO, Rich McKay, grew up in Tampa Bay, and he says it meant a lot for him to give back to our neighbors in Florida. To see it happen, to see the devastation, it's just cool that all the people of Florida, all the people from out of the state, people like us can come down here and try to make a difference. I'm jacked that the Bucs allowed us to join, you know, to join them. We're thrilled to be here. We'll do our little part. We'll continue to fund and help in ways we can. And I just ask anybody that watches, listens to think about what you can do to make a difference, because there's a lot of people that need that difference made in their lives. That's awesome. Well, everyone's favorite player on the back, on the roster is the backup quarterback, right? On Sunday, the name Desmond Ritter was once again a trending topic on the old Twitter in Atlanta. But Tora, in your notebook this week, you talked about how that's kind of a lazy take and things aren't really that simple. Yeah, and I'll say this about it. Do I want to see Desmond Ritter operate a Falcons offense in 2022? Yes, I do. Did I want to see it happen in that moment against the Bucs? No, I did not. You're down two of your best playmakers in your O-line is having difficulties protecting the quarterback against a veteran Bucs defense. I don't think that gives you the evaluation you need of Desmond Ritter to one day decide whether or not you think he's your future quarterback. I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but I want to emphasize that I'm not saying I never want to see Desmond Ritter. I'm saying I didn't want to see him in the second half of that Tampa Bay game. But people don't want rational takes. No, they want hot takes, which we have some of those wanting your true quarterback to take some snaps against one of the best defenses in the NFL as his first snaps. That is a hot take, but it's silly. We'll have some actually good hot takes for you to wrap up the show later on. And the creative director behind the Falcons at Lane United and Mercedes-Benz Stadium, Larry Liz, joins us next on Rise Up Tonight. Rise Up Tonight is presented by AT&T and brought to you by Georgia Lottery. Today could be the day. By Home Depot, how doers get more done? By Mercedes-Benz, the best of nothing and by Truis, committed to a better future. Welcome back to Rise Up Tonight. Let's head in the nest with Kelly Tory and this week's special guest, brought to you by Mercedes-Benz.  With us in the nest is Larry Luke, the AMBSE creative director overseeing everything. Falcons, United, Mercedes-Benz Stadium. And you led the design of this red helmet retail collection. It's all designed in-house, which is super cool. What was kind of behind this initiative and making it happen? Well, there were a lot of people involved in getting the energy up behind doing an in-house collection. But I would say our creative focus was to celebrate the red helmet and everything that is red. So as you can see, my sweatshirt is red, but there are other pieces where the red helmet is featured prominently in a premium way. And just really excited for fans to have more red helmet things to wear. I'm glad that you brought up the red helmet because as a lot of people know, this is the red helmet game. And I was actually in the locker room the other day and being able to see all of the red helmets hanging up in the locker room was very exciting to see. I mean, for you, what does it mean to bring back the red helmets and kind of the history of this? It's everything that an Atlanta sports fan would want, right? Like in listening to the fans, everyone's been clamoring for the red helmets to come back. And then when the NFL announced that we get a second helmet basically this year, it was all systems go. So my first day here on the job starting in February was let's bring back the red helmets and then the conversation started. And actually those conversations started before I even came on, but there was a lot of momentum building at that point. And just like the day is here, we're so excited for it. Obviously something that's been in the works for a while, like you were saying, but what's kind of been the behind the scenes of like, hey, we're gonna roll out this retail collection. Hey, we're gonna do all this stuff on social media to promote it. What's been kind of all the different creative elements there? There's been photo shoots happening, video happening, making sure we can get player imagery in the red helmet, coordinating with equipment, making sure the retail stuff looks good online and obviously designing it in-house and having a point of view on like what all those assets look like. It's just been a thrill. Every single day has been like a new adventure in celebrating the red helmet. Now you got your bachelor's degree from Emory University and then the Miami Ad School at Atlanta for graduate school for graphic design. How has, and you've been in this position for a few months, but how has this kind of your career accumulated to where you are now and what does it mean to you to be in this position?  Like I've always been a sports fan, but I've been more art focused. And when you watch a sports game, or at least when I watch a sports game, all I do is look at the logos, the uniforms, the ads, everything that's happening in and around the game and to finally be here in the seat that kind of has a say in how that all rolls out is just, it's just so amazing. We talked before, we got on camera about how you were a brave fan as a young boy. You always looked at Atlanta, even though you didn't live here when you were younger. As a city that you wanted to come to, what makes this city so special for you and what's kept you here all these years? I'd just say that the culture's so rich here. You've got all kinds of music. You've got people from all different walks of life. You've got people just trying to like make a better life for themselves together collectively. And that that energy is just so infectious for me. And yeah, again, like being a brave fan, being a Falcons fan before I even lived here, just made it all that more special to move here finally. So for our viewers, we have talked so much about Falcons fits. This is a huge part of our show, but also something that we talked about. We actually showed the sweatshirts, the Sundays in Atlanta kickoff collection sweatshirts. And that was something that you kind of helped lead the, I guess the fight for, you know, these collections and the team has really let Virginia Falcons fits to highlight the Sunday game day fits. I mean, how cool is it to see the players and also the fan base kind of rally around this, you know, fashion movement? Yeah, the Sundays collection was just kind of a brainchild of me and some other people on the creative team where we were like, well, what do we do on Sundays? What is the ritual? It's like we rise up, we watch the Falcons. That's what Sundays in Atlanta are all about. And so we took that thought and kind of built out a little mini like lifestyle collection around it. And to see it resonating with fans and players is just wild. It's amazing to see. And like we even got some stuff prepared for like Halo board visibility now, which it's, I don't know, it's really cool to like have a little creative spark and have it blow up like this. It was cool too, because I see the players walking around with their sweatshirts on all the time. Like whether it's before a game or even in the locker room. I mean, to have these players kind of, I don't know, feel like they are a part of this too. Like, what does that mean for you? It's amazing. Like it's a dream come true for a designer to like have an athlete wear something that you worked on, right? So that's really cool. And also just to bring a different visual thing that like you would normally find something like this in a team store. So to just bring like more of a lifestyle focused piece to the fans has been awesome. Thank you so much for the time. Really appreciate it. Really fun week this week with the Red Helmets for the Falcons. Anyone who wants to catch the full conversation head to fox5atlanta.com and we'll be right back on Rise Up Tonight. Atlanta, this is Ed Gragg talking and you watching Rise Up Tonight presented by AT&T. It's like I don't get caught up in whatever narrative is after four weeks of the daily narratives. You can almost write some of these narratives and live and die every week by narratives because it sets up bad narratives. You can frame the narrative. You can write narratives. So those are easy narratives. So Tyler Algiers still did not score his first touchdown. There is still time for our guys still waiting on Kyle Pitts to find the end zone too. So not doing great on those predictions, but this week I think it's special teams that'll make a difference in this game. The Niners have allowed 318 kick return yards on the season tops in the NFL, including 200 yards last week by Carolina alone. Atlanta has allowed 119 all year for reference. I expect the Falcons who've played really well on special teams this year to see that on film to exploit it on Sunday. Hey, maybe they block another punt or even a kick and if the offense is off to another slow start, special teams making a play is a good way to get things rolling, kind of like last Sunday. I'm looking at you, Avery Williams. I love this hot take. Now my hot take is that this Falcons offense is going to be way more productive this Sunday with Kyle Pitts back in it. He missed last Sunday's game with a hamstring injury, but confirmed on Wednesday that he'll be ready to go this Sunday. I know fantasy owners won't believe me when I say this, but even when the ball is not coming his way, Kyle Pitts is a major part of this offensive production. Just having his presence changes the way defenses view this offense. It's time for Kyle Pitts to go off and if the run game isn't working because of San Fran's run defense, which we know is good, find KP and let him run the show. And I think there's some secondary to be taken advantage of there for the Niners as well. After waiting to see what the Falcons have to do with Dion Jones, that saga is finally over. The Falcons traded their long-time linebacker and a 2024 seventh round draft picked to Cleveland in exchange for a 2024 sixth round selection. And it kind of felt like not as big a deal as some thought it might be earlier this offseason. Just like that, it feels like the final chapter of this old regime has really wrapped up. I honestly couldn't have said it better myself. You think of the big contracts this new regime had to contend with. Right. When they took over in Atlanta, Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, Jake Matthews, Grady Jarrett, Dion Jones, the only resolution that we didn't have coming into this season was Dion. Well, now we have it. And I honestly think that this is the best outcome for every party involved. Dion gets a fresh start and the Falcons are able to move on. Absolutely. Well, that'll do it for us here on Rise Up Tonight. Thanks for staying up late with us. For Tori McElhaney, I'm Kelly Price. We'll see you right back here next Friday night. Good night. That was perfect.


Good to go. Thanks, Dave. So good morning again, this is the convening of the Massachusetts Gaming Commission. We just got done our agenda-setting meeting and we are reconvening for a public meeting of doing our vocab commission. Good morning. Good morning, I'm here. Good morning again, Commissioner Hill. Good morning, I'm here. And good morning again, Commissioner Skinner. Good morning. And good morning, Commissioner Maynard. Good morning. All right, we'll get started. This is public meeting number 487. It's still Wednesday, November 8th. And we have a single item to adjust and return to Bruce Van, Director of Play Train, for your introduction. I had trouble unmuting, sorry about that. Yeah, today we have the House Rules for Penn National and Andrew will proceed. Thank you. Thank you. Andrew, good morning. Good morning, Chair and Commissioners. Thanks, Bruce. Yep, so the only item for review today is a House Rule update from Penn Sports Interactive, PSI. PSI is requesting changes to their House Rules to remove all language of Barstool, Barstool Sportsbook or Barstool Sportsbook and Casino to replace with Operator or the Operator, however the sentence reads. This is highlighted throughout the entire House Rules document. Other changes include minor grammatical changes throughout the House Rules as well. Should note, there are no changes to any general betting rules, definitions or sports specific rules. The only changes are those of which I've just mentioned. So after review of the requested changes, the Sports Wage and Division confirms all requirements have been met under 205-24702. And there's no reservations about moving forward with approving these changes. To note, we do have Adam Cates, the Senior Director of Compliance for PSI and the meeting as well to help answer any questions. Madam Chair. Thank you, Andrew, and good morning Adam. Thank you for joining us. Commissioners, you have your packet. So the House Rules are all outlined with the minimal red lines that Andrew described. But we have questions for Andrew and then we can also turn to Mr. Cates, if need be. Madam Chair. Yes. Andrew, can you just give us a little bit more of an overview of what's happening in the basketball changes? I don't believe there are any sports specific changes. I can... Your memo, your memo does say that, Andrew. October 25th, memo. Did we get the wrong memo here, maybe? I wondered if there was a little... There was just a... You had not taken out that. That might have been from the other. I do see the ESPN bet changes, but when I was looking through with the NBA stuff, I... I sent this memo. So it's in the packet for today. You do say Penn Sports... Page two. I was requested changes to their online sports book, House Rules. But I wonder if it's just, you might have accidentally included the wrong. Yeah, I sent this memo Monday, November 6th. We have 10.25 is the date of the memo that I've got. Same here. The memo is some... So if you look... Apologies, there was a mistake there. I just wanted to confirm. We did not make any changes to our NBA sports rules. So Andrew was correct in his opening statement. There were just name changes. So any references to a basketball change that didn't... That wasn't the intention. I think there just may have been a slight copy paper. And, you know, there was a one point slated to be presented with another House Rules. So, Trudy, if you can... She's on... Yeah. Front of us then, Andrew, what we have so he knows, but it's not... I'm in agreement with Adam. What we do have in front of us are the House Rule of Red Line, and they are in line with Andrew's public comments today. Madam Chair. Sorry. If you could just send over the packet that we're looking at from our... Yeah, I'll send that. Thanks so much. Madam Chair. Yes, I was just gonna... I'd also be interested in getting the correct memo from November 6th, as Andrew referenced. So if we could have that circulated for review during the meeting, that'd be great. And I suspect it will just, you know, say what he reported verbally, but it's good to see that and make sure we have right information. I'm sorry, Andrew. Are you saying that the October 25th one has been replaced by November 6th? Yeah, I did send in a new memo on November 6th. Okay, we can just send that. So I guess I didn't see that there had been a replacement. I knew that you'd be sent, but I guess I hadn't known it was a replacement. We can get that in our email. They have been sent, as you sent the updated one in the emails. I guess maybe he just resented to us. Yes. Can you just circulate it to the commissioners, please? He sent it to everybody. Oh, okay, thanks. If everybody can take a look at their email. We just got it. Thank you. Great. That's more in line with what I had saw, Madam Chair. Yeah, just a fraction. Thank you. I think because it just came in Monday, Andrew, it just probably got missed. No problem. We're all on the record now and we'll just substitute today's November. Oh, it's now dated November 8th. We'll substitute the November 8th memo with what was in the packet, Trudy. Yeah. And emails you can just update it with the public. Excellent. Any questions then for, now that you've had a chance to look at the red line. Sorry, Andrew. I noticed it last night and didn't mention it because I didn't look at your memo. I just looked at that line. I knew that it was what the intent was. So apologies. Madam Chair. Yep. If you're ready, I'm happy to make a move. Any questions before, commissioners that you're just having a, you're taking a look at the materials? All set. Or do you have any questions for Andrew or Mr. Cates? All right. Thank you, commissioners. I move that the commission approved the updates to Penn Sports Interactive's house rules as included in the memo dated November 8th, 2023 and as will be included in the commissioners packet and discussed here today or as was discussed here today. Second. Any questions or edits? Okay. Commissioner Hill. I mean, commissioner, I apologize. I looked at you and called you commissioner Hill. I, I wait, I have to do it more enthusiastically. I, no, commissioner Hill. Commissioner Hill. First of all, you have to raise your eyebrows and go, hi. Commissioner Skinner, hi. Commissioner Maynard. Hi. And I vote yes. Thank you. Thanks everyone. And thank you, Mr. Cates for your parents. Are we all set? Any other business commissioners? All right. Excellent. I'll need a motion to adjourn. Move to adjourn. Dan, that's commissioner O'Brien's drive a second. Second. Thank you, commissioner Skinner. All right. Commissioner O'Brien. I. Commissioner Hill. I. Commissioner Skinner. I. Commissioner Maynard. I. And I vote yes. Five, zero. Thanks everyone. Appreciate it. Thank you very much.


Welcome to Church of the Chair where we celebrate all the things we do while seated. I'm your host E here with my co-host Chad Lutsky And today we are finally getting started on the collab. We've done the first episode was Brainstorming the second one was Outlining and we're finally ready to start So I guess What you want to talk about anything before you jump into it that you want to start sharing your Screen because I kind of we need we need to get that voice we need to get that voice down. So I'm probably gonna watch you Yeah, see what you do To in order to share my screen I'm because I'm on my back I do my audio video stuff on my Mac and then I do all my writing on the here So I have to use this crappy keyboard. So expect many errors as I try to Try to type on this tiny little thing on my lap Dude, I don't even have that excuse a giraffe. Good morning Um, I don't even have that excuse because my my stuff is like I said my first drafts are just word vomit So I'll use the wrong there there there. I'll use the wrong It's I'll use all that stuff and then I have to go back and oh, yeah, I use the wrong It's all the time. I don't know why I know the difference. Yeah, we know the rules It's amazing how many times I get that apostrophe in there when it's not supposed to be good morning, Haley You know, it's it's funny because the I think most of my issues Come from being on the phone all the time and that's another reason why you speak the text even though It it still messes things up But uh, yeah, so I'll I'll get in there and I'm so used to it auto correcting to you know, it apostrophe s That I don't pay attention. So every time I just type ITS and just expect it to do it now Word will do that. But I got to the point with word where it was changing random words And I had to stop using it Sorry, I don't know why I found that funny. Hey. Hey, Haley I don't know why Morning bike. How you doing? All right, so Chad's gonna get started. I am going to be a little birdie watching him Do what he does so that we can get the voice down Basically, he's going to figure out what he's doing and I'm gonna mimic that with that same voice So that should be an interesting Experiment for you guys to watch also watch how I absorb and copy and all that stuff so yeah, I do want to preface that I Don't have I wanted to establish at least a first couple sentences last night. I don't I have nothing so I am really just starting The opening line for those who haven't ever written before or watched the process This opening paragraph doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna stay it might might fall in love with it might hate it It's just the way it goes. So I got a I got a quick story.  I'd be like I do notice it's gone. There's a reason it's there But it almost I do not suggest anybody do this It is a good way to teach you what is necessary and what it's not but yeah, um it Yeah, is it the more I the more she did it is we worked on like 12 different projects together the more she did it the more I I caught on to what she wanted to the point where my opening paragraphs usually became just one line And it was you know get right into the action and move the fuck on and she said she learned it from Kurt Vonnegut Not like personally, but something that he had said Get right into the action and then Expand later. So anyways, I have a I have a friend who preaches that Never use the first paragraph that you've written You're probably gonna write it. You need to write it at least I don't know what he says like six seven eight times and I just I can see that under some certain Circumstances, but usually when I'm writing something. I'm it's I'm starting it because I'm in the moment and Oftentimes that first page is Not every time but oftentimes it's I love going back to it because it impresses me because I was you know You can you can kind of sway from the moment as you as you especially if you have some time in between Doing this project. You kind of lose your voice a little bit, but oftentimes at the beginning It's like I have it and I'm specifically trying to use a Hook and that in you know in the first sentence that that ask a question. Okay. I need to know more what's going on Even it's it's something simple. So I don't really subscribe to the whole but I do know what you're saying and sometimes that can I read books all the time. That's like Especially if it's a book that's like it was a warm sunny day. The leaves did I'm like dude. I don't care I'll come up with my own thing. Just get to the story Elmer Elmer Elmore Leonard would have burned a book like that He's like never start with the weather never start with Never I think it was another one was never start with dialogue or maybe it's the exact opposite never start with narration. Anyways, but also not supposed to Start with waking up on foster homes and flies and stirring the sheets both were the protagonist waking up in the morning Dude, I can't I can't I can't even count I don't have enough fingers and toes that how many stories I've opened with they woke up or whoever woke up So yeah, I completely agree, but I mean it's it's like natural from a storytelling perspective You want to start somewhere in the most natural places? Let's go ahead and start the day, you know, or let's go ahead and start the the craziness like you know I wake up in a strange place or you know, I wake up to Sun coming through the blinds. You're setting the scene It's just really easy to fall back on stuff like that when it's just as easy to start the scene With something else that might be a little more action-oriented like brushing teeth And then you can give you know, if they're OCD or not and you can give hints there that kind of thing whereas the giving the weather or the Description of the room you're in especially when you first wake up. You're not paying attention to what's around you Yeah, so, you know, that's anyways, but but yeah, I I try not to do weather or anything like that All right. Oh We are on forever All right I think I need to get to a different screen here. I always I put the word kind of down there because I always do that. Oh, that's fine. I Don't know if you can this is showing up or not, but I Can pull it up on my side Yeah, you're I can watch you live over on Google Docs if I do have a problem reading it because I'm sitting here going What's that say?  I'm sorry. No, that's no problem What Chad you don't like being watched So voyeuristic, yeah, dude pound that keyboard All right, I'm gonna shut up now Boobs Now we gotta now we got to have a character named boobs. We got to have a character named boobs That's that's it. You did you just you did this not me. Okay, you did it. There's a character named boobs I don't know where he comes in, but there's a character named boobs. I'm down. Yeah Exactly and that's how he could introduce itself.  Yeah My name's boobs.  Because everybody loves boobs This is how the process goes guys. This is literally how the process goes You get something you see something and it it just works Just jokingly typing out boobs and we have a whole we have a whole character out of it now because everybody loves boobs That's fantastic It's so good. Oops So good. Oh, what happened to my Here we go Where did I to I heard us oh and by the way if you need to mute me at any point in time definitely Definitely do that. Okay.  Oh, there it is. I got a lag on my end Tim just popped up for me Leek and potato soup sounds amazing Haley and yes, good morning Tim. How are you doing my friend?  Y'all he muted me.  Yeah, I know so that you can you can and there's no sense Go ahead and talk, you know to everybody and stuff It's Chad just laggy for me not like we can do anything about it But it's Chad is Chad just laggy for me or is he laggy for everybody?   There's a brand at Aldi's that I buy. Oh, it's so good Hello staying on themes He is he is this is this is interesting. I want you guys to pay attention He keeps writing in past tense and Has to go back to and has to go back to present. He did it with the first line, too Oh, never mind. He tricked me. He tricked me. That's supposed used is right is correct there It's not supposed to be uses before she sold it. There's so much so much character development just in that opening line The gravel in my hand feels like teeth broken from a kick to the face I choose a good-sized molar and pitch it toward the metal can on whoever Used to keep her jewelry in before she sold it Find comfort in the sound whether it be the satisfaction of hitting my target as it helps make the sound The sound behind me Helps mask the sound behind me.  So we know he smokes. What is he smoke? Next thing would be there must be a dozen of those things lying around the house is either obviously cluttered or or whatever It's yes, absolutely absolutely great Stuffed in the couch cushions kicked under the chair.  I mean right there.  Is that because of drugs? Is that because of what and Chad's probably not thinking of any of this stuff Like he's not considering it, but he's he's so Good at setting scenes to begin with he knows exactly what he's doing without focusing on what he's doing See now now he's now you see he's overthinking now He's gonna kill me when when he actually rewatch if he rewatches his back Now he's overthinking when or even his own back pocket was descriptive enough and he's now he's adding more to it See what I'd likely do here is I would do or even his own back pocket period He'd forget his own pecker Was he'd forget whereas pecker was if he didn't need it. That's what I would change I'm just literally trying to give commentary for you know, what we're doing I'm definitely not gonna go back and edit it now Never wanted to stir the the momentum.  I was so I was hoping I Was hoping he'd do that because He gets gonna keep coming back to that as a as a revolving theme If he if he doesn't do this naturally, which he's already doing it That's the kind of thing that you would go back and add to denote that the good sound That the kid likes is coming through the bad sounds It's like every time it starts getting loud that kind of thing, you know think and once again that's showing what's happening She right here. I would do the screen door screeched open or something like that and he might go back and do this Yep. Yep. Yep.  I've never had a chance to watch You know, we've done writing streams together before but I've never had a chance to just sit down and watch him write Because I don't rewatch my lives And where he's putting the things in parentheses. I just write panda fucker That's lets me know I need to go back and change names But then again, he doesn't know anybody's name right now So I wouldn't even do panda fucker I would force myself to come up with something right there and then have to change it because we literally don't know any of These people's names except for people later on We know mingo is mingo. M-i-n-g-o is going to be the The the guy in charge of everything at the carnival and then Sheena or Shena S-h-e-n-n-a is going to be the girl the MC meets It says to get dinner.  I might change like jam to jelly Because I don't think these people would say jam. I could be wrong though. I hate those metal chairs with a passion I was about to say the one the the one stained uh the time someone shitting it but Wow I wish I would have said that before he started writing it It's it's amazing how how on how synced up we already are He dropped a lit cigarette in his lap Just before passing out 18 beers man. That's that's a lot During my alcoholic days, man. Me and my friend Pat would go down and get uh Suitcases of beer a suitcase of beer each every single night if you don't know a suitcase of beer has 24 cans and uh We would we'd go down to the local gas station where they had the walk-in cooler Um for the cold beer and we would grab one each and we would kill that every single night Every night did not matter.   Oh, that's amazing. Dude. They made it. Ooh scattering the green Paint now that bed spark that bear spot is a reminder. I'm gonna go read some other details about the characters real quick Okay, you turned me on You you you got to go back and watch like my commentary from From like the whole time you were writing basically, but uh the the one thing that I'll point out before Is when you said the way you wrote the screen door part At first I said now I would probably go back and I would say the screen door screech is open And you went back right when I said that you went back and deleted what you had Like I hear the screen door. I can't remember what you had But you basically turned around and did what I was saying I would do right at that Yeah, it's it's it's creepy and I was uh, I was also telling everybody how you were giving character development without giving it because like right up here the uh um The where she used to keep her jewelry before she sold it like that right off the bat tells tells everybody that this family's broke Um, and then you get into the more detail down here about the uncle. Um, the uh Oh, yeah his his uh Like his memory you you you're talking about the finding the lighter So we know that the house is either cluttered or or whatever But on top of that you you also deal with the uh the uncle's memory and anger issues Uh, and I said the only thing that I would change about that section would be uh, or even in his own back pocket period He'd forget where his pecker was if he didn't need it So I that that'd be the only thing I changed. I like the the c read But that was the only comment I had about that and the rest of it's just yeah, it's good I like I that's funny that you said that because I don't like the forget where his pecker was if he didn't need it You don't like it. Well the funny part. Okay, when you go back if you go back and watch I I I originally said before I saw what you were adding because you kind of got Stuck on because like you're trying to add to it and I said it's it's fine the way it is I would stop it right after Um, or even in his own back pocket full stop But I also do like I I do like that line just because I don't know it it just reads But I would definitely get uh rid of the because his eyes see read so often just you know period after pocket And then he'd forget where his pecker was if he didn't need it but anyways that was that was really cool to do the commentary for because The uh, it it was it was interesting to see you either employee stuff that I would do Or for me to literally predict what you were about to do. That's that's very cool Yeah, that is We know more nerve-wracking than I thought it would be. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, don't don't don't do that No, no, no, no, that's fine. I uh, I've done writing live streams, but I've never People can't see what I'm writing right. I got you know, so I'm not self-conscious. I get real um I don't know. I guess I get I guess I get self-conscious about it.    It's a show. Don't tell fantastic writing and uh, yeah, see that I I can't do that Um on a on a rough draft. It's usually just blah. Here's all my ideas and then we'll go from there But yeah, um, I didn't finish reading this last bit um Later that night, uh, oh no, I'm way down here. Never mind. I'm I was reading the notes sits on the middle chair the one uncle shoots the the whole uh Dried like a scab is great. Uh, they made me clean it up with the hose scattering the green paint Now the bear spot is just a reminder that uncle can't hold his own Uh, not without leaving a trace of himself behind. That's that's good.  Uh, no pun intended Uh Yeah, for this kind of thing where yeah, I'm trying to give as much information as I can without it Feeling like I'm giving information So you were doing it intentionally.  That's cool. That's cool enough. Yeah. I mean, I'm trying essentially I'm trying to paint a picture. Yeah, you know of of You know to where each sentence matters and tells something like like you said with the with the jury. Okay Why what, you know, why would she sell her jewelry heart heart up apparently and we find out heart up because You know, they're spending their money on drugs and whatnot um I think I wrote it in the one of the As one of the chapters where the kid goes to um You know, they they usually they want him to shoplift. He's not down with that. So they usually I like the idea of you know, but the cousin for whatever reason Um, because I was thinking if we have this nine-year-old cousin and the 16-year-old takes off And if they're kind of like He leaves them behind You know in in a lot of stories He would do what he could to get This other kid out of there But I thought it'd be better if the kid The kid likes it. So when he does shoplift and comes home to bring stuff He's praised for it. It makes it feel really good that he did something for his family and his family.  Yeah, it is but it makes sense. So it's like Psychologically it makes sense that he would want the reward because he doesn't get rewards You know, there is no happy times in this house. So Yeah And I just view the kid as being like maybe the the the woman in the relationship that she knows isn't good for her but she doesn't want to leave And um, so on some strange, you know, this kid being being as young as he is has um Like an unconditional love for his family doesn't maybe realize just how bad it is because He doesn't know What life could be like out what life is for other people outside of that This is all he knows so I thought maybe we should present that to where like The reason why our protagonist isn't rescuing this poor nine-year-old kid is because The nine-year-old kid doesn't think he needs to be rescued. He doesn't want to leave Yeah, um, but he's also not involved with although up with the exception of Yeah, I will go steal this stuff Where this kid is like, you know our protagonist He's not down with the stealing doesn't want to get caught doesn't think it's cool But he'll go dumpster diving, you know, which is something that that's regularly done, you know, I love I love that idea As I was reading over your notes, uh that you sent me Um, I love the I love the first three chapters. So the the way the way you outlined them And I'm completely down down with that. Um, I really like the idea of the mc going And dumpster diving to get out of having to steal and then the nine-year-old them not being happy with that So the nine-year-old just goes i'll take care of it, you know Just so he can get that uh, what serotonin or dopamine or whatever From actually getting praised because he's never praised for anything else. I love that. That's that's great Yeah I think I put that in like a later chapter, but uh, you know touching on it now and and this could I mean there could be a thousand words between The last two paragraphs, uh, oh, yeah to spread out.  So, um Yeah, maybe it could be like the kids almost kind of way of being getting high just like everybody else. Yeah Yeah, I'm really digging this Um, look at our notes quick. Yeah Yeah, we gotta start coming up with some names Yeah, I was I was thinking about that I don't know I I don't want to use this but the very first thing and probably just because of the cliche in the stereotype of this family Um, right off the bat for some odd reason I had uncle cletus and I was like that's way too The yes too on the nose for this But that's the only name that popped into my head while you were writing Um, and I was like and I don't I don't know Uh, whilst you guys are cooking I'm soupy Let them cook Let them cook For some reason my wife said you should name here because I told her this morning about what we were doing I told her the the premise and um She said you should name your kid Shane And uh, I said why is that and she just told me that she knew a kid named Shane that came from like lower class family and their house was Kind of like that, but also also we can use derrick, uh, alaska jones over on discord He's derrick jones here, but uh Um, we could use derrick's name also. I told him that I put him in a story. He doesn't have to be this one I'm just saying that I told him that I put him in a story because he was like, you know So either either one the the cousin could be derrick or the mc could be derrick. I like Shane too Um, I'm not sure which one I want for which but uh, I like I like Shane Shane can work in fact maybe the I don't know I think the young the young kid should have uh Like who the the kind of name that's like, why would you name your kid that? Oh, that's a good one. I'm almost like a either either a novelty or named after somebody that You know like alvis or it's just something like why would that's just cruel. Why would you do?  These are horrible parents How how about duke and then dad is a john wane fan? Something like that Yeah, except duke kind of feels like Just like red necky. Okay. All right, uh, also Uh, I like travis for someone. I don't know but I do like I haven't used travis or shane ever I've used to derrick but not so uncle travis Sounds good to me and We want that to be our main uncle. Yeah, definitely the main uncle. Okay, so travis And then when uh, whoever's hollering at him, I'm guessing that's either That's the aunt and uncle talking. Yeah, it's gotta be the aunt. Yeah, so uh, um, but I would say she'd call him trav Okay, I would think and then when she's mad she can like call him travis and that's gonna be something subtle We we add in there Right now.  You said that because I was I was literally just sitting here say I mean, it's not a girl's name, but it's associated with something on that side Which was butch, you know butch castity that that kind of thing.   Yeah, that was my first thought. Um, yeah We could do that.  I like Cassidy. I like Cassidy. Yes Let's do Cassidy. Um, and then yeah call him Cassie That's good. I like that Yeah, there's a western con Shane. Yeah But yeah, he Shane was more of like a the hero in trying to break the hero in white Stereotype, I don't think he was much an anti hero I can't remember like the I just remember how he rides off at the end and it's kind of open-ended But you know, he's dead. Um, I really love the very last shot of that movie It's one of my favorites in like cinematic history And the book's great too. So are we gonna go with Shane for uh for our mc? Okay I mean, I'm fine with that I don't I don't mind that at all at least as a placeholder for right now if we're not entirely if you're not entirely happy with Yeah, that's fine with me. It seems like a like a well-rounded simple name and not too common um So we got uncle uncle number two and then his 24 year old son and then his son's girlfriend I had an idea for a name for the for the pregnant girlfriend Which is bethany just so at some point in time someone could call her methani I know it's going to be coke, but I had methani is more of a new thing But bethany is the first name I thought of and then I thought it would be funny to do methani um, but uh, it is coke and it is the set the 70 80s 80s late 80s. Yeah, like 89 90. Yeah, that was the year I got attacked by a big old doggy Yeah methani.  Um, as far as like last name shane charles travis charles It is like I that that's the first thing that popped into my head and I tend to go with whatever pops up first Okay So we need an ant name Could be something quick like ant jen The only thing that popped into my head was marjorie Um, that's the only thing that I got uh, jen or jan either one of those is fantastic. I like that All right, let's go the ant jen jen sounds weird. Okay Ant jen that's fine. I have an ant jen it and we call her ant jen Well, not anymore. I mean, I haven't seen her since I was like 15 I don't even thought about her but yeah rita can be another one. Definitely a rita. Uh We can call the Let's do ant rita. I like the name. Yeah, um, and then we can call the other one The pregnant girlfriend jen if you wanted to We we could just cast together here in a second. That's for sure We could just stick with Bethany, okay, you you decided to use bethany. That's fine.  Yeah, d e w i t t Yeah, do it. They could call them duet Uh Like we should have like one person in the family like the the the nine-year-old calls everyone by their full name Okay Yeah, yep um, and then What about con the 24 year old son? Dwight like you got duet and dwight I don't know if that's duet corny for you dude, but it's not too corny I just I worry because we have so many people that oh, yeah, you're right.  Um All right, let's see here I said the stupidest it's it's because of the books I have behind me, but I was like let's call them layered Hunter Hunter feels like something they might name our kid I like hunter literally this is this is the reason Is I got layered hunt books sitting here?  That's rich rich people name Um, and then hunter popped in and I was like that'll work But anyways, uh, and any of this stuff can change at any time. So that hunter, uh All right, so we got Shane Rita Travis duet, dewy hunter Bethany Cassidy calls him Cassie Yeah The name bank is growing I love it I can't wait to get right to sorry get to boobs Find out who that guy is Yeah, it's gonna be great Uh, ooh everybody loves boobs. Oh, that is such a good That's the magic man. That's that's the magic on the air for which simple shit like that Okay Chapter one protag chucking rocks into old copycams sitting on the rickety front porch his family fight the house behind him demonstrate the unhealthy dynamics of the house Hangs out with nine-year-old cousin gets him out of the house chapter ends with uncle one bringing him. Okay, so I think I think what we'll do is Um to try to stick with that maybe go up Uh, like save the scene where the where the uh Bethany comes out and have The boy come out instead the the um What's his name Cassidy?   I don't know something like that. Um, something that you know just normal ass Conversation that isn't really focused because they're both chucking rocks I did the same thing in bay's end So I don't know if you want to like repeat that kind of thing But when uh Tray and Eddie are walking down the street kicking the rock. It's almost like they're taking turns Talking one will kick the rock the other one will kick the rock and um It is almost like a bonding thing for these two boys to sit out there and chuck gravel in the and one of them does it one of Shane does it to for the good sound and Cassidy does it just because of the camaraderie You know that kind of thing is what he's playing along implied exactly. So especially for a nine-year-old Okay, and I I don't know if you want to foreshadow talking about there's no food in the house or not, but Um, that would be the only thing that where I would go with that. Um, just to get the conversation kick started Um, maybe I was thinking like having some kind of like dialogue where It's spoken but the reader isn't exactly sure what they're talking about just yet. Yeah, I like Yeah, yes, and then you find out.  Yeah And I can testify that You can most definitely live off Dumpsters because I know I have done it We uh, when we were in pretty well first off I was homeless twice. I've been homeless twice in my life And um, my favorite was Whole Foods dumpsters Um, because they would just they would throw out the best shit like salads Other and kinds of stuff that were pre-packaged Um, and they don't open them up and discard them that way.  Um, I didn't know any better looking back There's a couple grocery stores that probably could have went but I never knew that That food was thrown out at grocery stores. I didn't know that till I was way older. So I always hit um the little Caesars and this is back when, uh They had pizza pizza where I don't think they still have that where you have to get two pizzas The other one's free and they won't give you just one pizza even if you try And I remember those days and and the pizza was squared. So I remember pizza pizza.  Right.  They just throw the box and everything in the dumpster so but you know pizza Just like most people Like my favorite food that mexican and I'll tell you what I never thought of that get get tired of pizza But my fridge I lived in a little at this particular time I have been homeless twice, but this particular time I had an efficiency apartment and um I lived right around the corner from pizza place.  I'm serious. I'd make a stack, you know, like 14 inches tall of just Peanut butter toast scarf that but when I got tired of that. Yeah, I did the pizza thing Filled my fridge with pizza um Different, you know different cut with pineapple on it with with supreme. It's just pepperoni whatever And I got so tired of eating that pizza Just for breakfast and lunch and dinner. So I started going to I hit Taco Bell and McDonald's or uh burger king That's next to impossible to try to try to try to find something that isn't just nasty slop Right squish down in there.  Yes, and they just throw it into the waste bucket And then the manager has to go through all that stuff. But yeah, you're absolutely right now. Uh, I do remember, uh, this wasn't you know Dumpster diving, but uh, one of the things that I would do this is how long ago I was homeless the uh, I think 39 cent taco sundaes Uh at Taco Bell I would get um, I would You know panhandle for the entire week And then I would go there on sundae and get as many tacos as I could afford And then I would eat those over the next couple and I wouldn't get any lettuce or Cheese on it.  Yeah, exactly. Uh, and I would eat off that I'm pretty sure I gave myself food poisoning because I would literally eat off that unrefrigerated Taco Bell for like five to six days until I finally ran out. But yeah anyways, um Um cheerios what the oh, hang on one of my housemates got free food from her church She would never eat the cheerios.  So you you're never guaranteed anything nutritional Um, you just you get what you get Um, and we've gotten an entire crates of cantaloupe that were nearly rotted. We've gotten Uh expired milk, not even shelf-stable milk just milk that had it already expired Well, it's a best buy date nowadays so they can legally do that. Um, that's why they stopped doing expiration dates because Uh, if you if they sell something after expiration date, they can be held responsible with a best buy date They can't be held responsible. That's why they shipped it.  Honestly, like when just make yourself a bunch of Yeah, there you go Right that's a fuckload of lemonade though Uh, I'm so tired of taste of peanut butter here have a lemon Anyways, um, yes, I I'm gonna go ahead and take a break because I've already been in the chair for over an hour Me and chad talk about 15 minutes before this Um, and if you want to continue writing or just talk to chat or or whatever I'll hit I'll hit you guys back when I get when I get back All right Mute my Hang on. Was there anything you wanted to talk about before hang on No, okay. All right. Just making sure I just realized Don't need to type on that I'll think maybe I do Thank you lazy. I did All right, I got to write something something just Popped into my head. I got to get this down before I forget it do it Sorry, I can't even hear you all right geez I uh, I also do this thing. Yeah, I'm sure you probably do it too or If something pops into my head, it's not going to be used for Could be 15,000 words later. I don't know I will Have a section called use later or something and then yeah Those at the bottom Yeah, I do I do the same thing. I just did one Where where uh Shane sticks up for It comes out the cassey thing like that. He doesn't like it comes out and it's just a quick got you It's funny you bring up the bread and peanut butter because what i'm writing over here I guess I can just throw this in also For the use later just so you can read it Um Let's put it Is it not is it really not going to let me do this? Oh, you can't use oh lord. I don't know if this is going to mess you up, but it no you're fine that that formatting Uh, no, that's uh I'm not worried about that The sinks of science experiment moonlighting as an entomologist wet dream plates fuzzy with mold scattered in both basins A spoon stands on hand in one corner A cockroach stuck in the peanut butter coating the utensil dangles from the side like a mountain climber writhing languidly Dead flies float in a faded and scratched cool with container their bodies drifting across gray water that smells vaguely of hidden valley Someone's smashed a moth on the rim of the sink is what I've got so far. Nice so I was thinking maybe open up chapter two with that or so I don't I don't know but we'll use it somewhere I really Let me read what you've got since I um if you go to uh The screen door screams. I I took uh, beth any out and put cassidy in instead. Okay I like that imagery the ears being too big That's cool. Yeah, waiting to see if travis comes out and yeah Yeah, I like that Probably be more of a tink or a ping with a tink, right?  I mean either one of them But I I do like tink and manage strawberry jam And I was thinking uh pregnant girlfriend can be on uh, bethany can be on wick So they can get the they they could technically get the peanut butter for free and then he could shop lift the strawberry jam to go with it so, uh I don't know if they had I can't remember when they started wick I thought it was It might have been actually it might have been no tanaf came later I'm looking it up I remember I remember being on on uh What was called ga where? government assistance. Yeah, and um Which is which is insane to think that a very healthy 16 17 year old kid the first time I got on it. I was on I was 17 that a healthy 17 year old Guy with no kid just too lazy to work can get food stamps and have my rent paid That did not help me No, I mean it helped me to continue all my bad habits and just be lazy, but it didn't help me get a job I was like wait a minute. I can eat for free and have my rent paid to just skateboard and playing vans all day and don't have to Sound sounds awesome, but life is good. Yeah And takes away from the people who actually need it Uh, let's see here. So yeah, october 7th 1975 pl 94 dash 105 established wick is a permanent program Uh, the legislation stated congress finds that substantial numbers of pregnant women infants and young children are at special risk in respect to their physical and mental health By reason of poor or inadequate nutrition or health care or both so But of course all you get in that is like beans milk Peanut butter formula, I think yeah formula if it's babies. Um, but of course they wouldn't use that yet Of course when the baby comes, um So yeah 75 and if I mean at any point in time are we going to be like it is 1989 or can it just be assumed that you know just by The fact that there's like what h eight tracks and cassettes and no dbd No, no dbds and cds or whatever, you know I think eight tracks are pretty much dead by 89, but okay. All right. So y'all fancy motherfuckers might have had no Sorry, but I know my my dad had an eight track player in the house and in his truck And he he used eight tracks not that they were still coming out, but he used eight tracks all the way up until like 92 Um, so yeah, he he loved his eight tracks. We couldn't get him to change over It's almost like trying to get my mom to use a touch screen cell phone Uh, we couldn't get them to change over to those Respectively, you know, it took years Um, and from what my mom said it took years for him to go from Records to eight tracks like he didn't even like to start subscribing not subscribing but buying eight tracks until uh the uh Until it just was A cheaper option than buying a record. Um, but anyways, uh, and I think his record player broke I'm not sure But uh, I know we had the eight track player and then eventually we got a combo Which was in which was a record player and an eight track One of those big silver faced ones.  I I Used to drive me crazy that my little brother would when cds start coming out getting popular He goes like 91 92 and my little brother would spend 18 dollars on a cd And I'd be like dude, I can get two almost two cassettes for the price that you're paying for one cd So I continued with the cassettes um still buying a while he would spend 18 bucks on them and the new uh, you know Smashing pumpkins or ellison chains or something and I'd be like dude, I can Save so much more money and get more music, but he was right I remember um People being so against Uh cds because of the the quality was so good Like it didn't you know, and it was the same thing with like, uh records You know people were like, you know, it doesn't have the same feel the same gritty texture as as a You know, even a a cassette or a or a vinyl Yeah There was like big drama for that one. I don't know why but it was um There's something else I was going to say about cd. Oh, yeah, um, I actually am in the club I never because I was so broke Between the time that you know cds. I have never bought a brand new cd. The only cds. I've ever bought were from, uh A warehouse music And that was the used ones because I just couldn't afford like you were saying, you know, they're 18 fucking dollars But uh, sometimes, you know, you could get Relatively new cd at warehouse Uh, someone had traded in uh for like, you know, less than 10 bucks and then of course they had like the the small ones Uh, like the bins they would have and it'd be like 99 cents or The best the best part about warehouse was the buy to get too free That they they ran that sale a lot Especially in my area and I would go down there and just load up on on cds We also had a place in troya, alabama for the longest time and that's where we moved when we first moved from california Um, it was a place called ad cds and it was another second hand Place like warehouse, but it was a little mom and pop operation And I would go in there and blow my entire paycheck when I was like 16 17 years old Um, I was working at burger king as a crew member and my check would be like 120 dollars I would blow that entire 120 dollars on CDs only I remember buying entire collections of like everything nine-inch nails had out at that time Everything metallica mega death slayer cannibal corpse all that stuff They had such a huge selection and they were cheap as hell Um, and then you also had a punch card and for every five that you bought you get one free So yeah, I would go in there and I would get you know 10 to 15 CDs at a time But I have never purchased a brand new cd ever which is hilarious because I purchased all of my music now digitally Um, and I don't use the the streaming services unless I already have the album And I don't have the album with me or downloaded or whatever and I don't have any signal then you know, then I'll listen to the I'll I'll but anyways, but I will if I have a signal and I'm out I will listen to that thing or whatever, you know, or let's say shells in the car. I don't have my phone I can pull up amazon music whatever But I still buy CDs. I still buy vinyl yeah Not often because it's expensive, but there's a couple artists that They're they're stuff. I I specifically want On vinyl am I I must have at least 800 900 records Not as many CDs, but several hundred CDs as well And wow shell shell would get a kick out of seeing your collection.  So now Uh, it just sits in the my mother-in-law's closet collecting dust because she doesn't listen to him I'm like, oh the tragedy of it all but anyways, but uh, I got another I got a good Good friend who has like over 20,000 vinyl um, and uh, he's very very well off, but uh, yeah, and also he's got something like 10,000 physical books and a thousand of those are like, uh Not like they're not the gift editions of like cemetery dance stuff But the actual like lettered editions that cost like $1,200. He's got like a thousand of those Dude's collection is worth like a million bucks.  I still buy CDs I think the only CD I bought new was Ozzie's latest album and I saw it at Walmart and nabbed it I didn't even know he had a new album out I I bought that one too. Well, it came out Was it the end of last year or maybe earlier this year? I bought it I think the last CD I bought uh brand new was Maybe last month. I got anthrax among the living which I already own on cassette, but I didn't have it on on cd We were just talking about on a stream a couple nights ago. I asked anybody if they knew what among the living What what they're talking about in it, you know, it's a stand. Well, you know, you know this but uh They wrote a lot of they've got at least four or five songs that have to do with uh, steven king books Yeah, that's that's what I was telling everybody in chat I was like anthrax a huge huge fans of steven king because they've written numerous songs just based on his stuff I wrote an article for decibel magazine, uh about Songs that were written for uh based on horror books And I think anthrax was one of the fans I used I I hope I hope you touched on pet cemetery by the romans I still I have a a folk cover of that one. That's really uh, really interesting that I it's an arrangement I did myself on my acoustic I don't know if I did or not, uh Google the I don't want to be buried pet cemetery I've thought about releasing it on the channel, but I worry about copyright stuff like that so Uh, I used Uh, do you know pro-bot is?  I was like, did you just say botan?  Oh chris would my my youngest would love that. He just got in the motorhead He hit me with that in the car yesterday. He's like, uh Hand me the ox cable.  I wasn't like saying he couldn't but it was just like where did that even come from and uh He's a big fan of the Ramones. So it popped up in his uh recommended on Spotify And uh, he was he was like, uh, do you know this one?   But anyways, um Um, yeah, he's 11 listening to mega death and slayer. He's basically me just did in a different body It's uh, because I was listening to all those bands at about that age, too Professional writers. Yes I'm a jake and put that one up on screen Button is probably correct your big grammar I have a million cassettes. I taped off harvard and mit's punk and pop radio shows But I just listened to vinyl and songs on youtube That was a unique scenario. I was trying to describe why the only reason and I I didn't I don't think I got to my point Well enough and it doesn't matter. It really doesn't but uh There was something I was going to bring up that I I'd still listen to streaming I can't remember the unique situation I was in where I had to listen to streaming instead of my downloaded music I can't remember what the hell it was.  Oh, I need to move this down to Later scene And if you want we can see Highlight these different colors or something. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna do that Well, that's not that's not easy in the eyes. That is I was about to say that Loves me some purple, but yeah, that's hard to read Yeah Also, if you're back to writing you're still on the infinity screen Okay So, you know Yeah, you you did write convenient store. I kind of chuckled inwardly. I might have even chuckled outwardly when I read it Um, but that was just because I did the same thing. I've done convenient store. I read uh one of uh Jake's stories on stream for game night. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, and uh, it said convenient store And I just I chuckled because I do that quite often also Speech to text does that to me all the time because I don't know how to spell convenience Uh, I get it wrong every single time. That's another way I use the speech to text So, um, I get sheriff wrong every time really? Yes, that's an interesting one.  That's ridiculous Yeah, sheriff. I'm like two r's and two f's or just two r's and one f or is it one of our two f's? Sure JB starts the story at the laundromat I like to give my favorite Views since they literally have songs that have been posted for 15 years and have 2 000 views If I'm typing really fast Then I'll do that a lot where I misspell things or use similar words that aren't the one I'm meaning to write Yeah, we all do it man. There's nothing to be embarrassed about not saying you're embarrassed, but it's we all do it um and think about this one of the most famous typos of all time And this these books sold millions is in the original twilight Stephanie meyer wrote a moat of dust But she used the wrong moat and it was like a castle moat And when I read that I was just tackling and I was like that's a lot of fucking dust Anyways, and I stopped reading after that because I was like if her editor didn't catch that Uh, if that one got through I do not have hopes for the any any of the other books in this series I gave the first book a hundred pages and uh But you're you're a you're a good good man. I think it's just the most cliche thing that I've ever read It's just it's the most boring. It's like bc andrew's writing I still remember the time steven king Was high as a kite and he was doing an interview on television And he had peter straw sitting right next to him and they were talking about the best and worst writers of of that It was like the late 80s. Maybe early.  I don't remember if king is on it But it's ira levin peter straw And somebody else and they're all just smoking cigarettes like crazy. Yeah Yeah During this interview, they're both they're they're both smoking too But there was a there was a third author. I don't think I've ever seen ira levin So it might have been him But I just I remember I remember that uh that quote so much bc andrews is writing the worst prose in literature I've never I've never read uh vc andrews, but I did just recently get uh flowers in the attic Gotcha, it's it's basic stuff. It's the She well, it's now andrew neederman took over when she died, but uh, she originally I mean it was you know what people were there for when they bought her books It was not there for a high literary experience.   Yeah, I did. Okay, also I'm gonna go up here and do the mad sounds chapter hitting Yeah, jake. I've seen I've seen that typo in pet cemetery.  Yeah, definitely a hundred percent. I like that I thought he'd be uh make him even more endearing to have you know, it's his wide mile wide grin Uh showing off the black spaces where he's recently lost clean. I used to be it's even more uh Even more endearing Lots of books have someone Being given free reign. What do you mean lazy? Oh, okay. I got you. Yeah, that was one Uh, I read an entire book where every time and it came up oddly often, uh Instead of taught as in you taught someone Uh, the author wrote t a u t every single time like it's a taught situation Or the rope was taught I was like, uh, come on. That's simple I need a backyard of me.  Uh, hey vamp. How you doing? I ain't seen you in a while. Um I like the idea of having that many people In there it might be a bit crowded like writing wise But I do I do like the idea of all those people being stuck in this one Cramped place and everybody's just desperate, you know for a better life Uh, but uh, I mean, yeah, do what you want, man. If you want to kill somebody Like character wise like being able to I know what you're getting.  Yeah, I was I was thinking of Um, if we got rid of anyone when you just brought this up the first person I thought we can get rid of is the other uncle Um and just have his kids His 24 year old son and his pregnant wife Living with them, you know, and that that could easily get because I don't see that character in my head at all I see travis. I see rita. I see bethany. I see, uh, I already forgot the The son's name, uh hunter. Um hunter. I see kassidy. I see shane Yeah, it would be the it would be the other one. Is it more than 10? No, I don't think so So we got rita bethany Hunter kassidy shane and travis is six Am I missing someone if we get rid of the other uncle? Uh, no shane and rita local travis Hunter bethany and kassidy. Yeah Yeah, yeah, uncle do it might be too much Yeah, but I don't I don't see him anyways So I was in interested in seeing what you were going to do with him or if I if I was going to take it on Did the brady's and full house have too many people? It's a little easier to keep track of people when it's a television show.   She goes you got a you got a name for the girl to carnival yet. They said yeah shenna she goes shenna I said shenna. Yeah as in henna But with an s in front of it. She said what I said don't ask never heard that name before.  I promise you Not that why he doesn't get dark, but yeah, it's definitely not why They could get government cheese too. They didn't stop. I'll tell you what 90s If the government ever gave free food, it was freaking awesome.  We used that for everything Loved that cheese plain rectangle box It's a big break of cheese in Lansdale's freezer burn the uh The the main attraction like the the uh the anchor of his whole the whole side show because they have a freak show and stuff is this uh block of ice that has a Prehistoric man in it that he lugs around everywhere That's that's funny It is It's like his pride and joy He does everything just to keep that thing frozen And you're never really sure if it is if it's a really a prehistoric guy or just a dead guy in there That's cool. Okay, Jake. Yeah, sounds good. I'm gonna change this, uh, baby filled to her mountainous pregnant belly What do you think? Okay Go with that.  That's a lot of peas Anyways, the arms That's a great spot of humor It comes out of nowhere I love this kid. What is this chick's name? I keep forgiving this chick's name. Oh, yeah Rita or Bethany. Oh, I like that the soot covered screen turning his skin and eerie black Where did all go? I did leave it on accident. Oh, okay I brought it back I moved that later piece up to this discussion here Gotcha Yeah, feel free to to toss in to help differentiate all the characters Descriptive things. Yeah here and there Um, I've been layering some as as they kind of grow in my head I also don't want to do too much right now because I don't want to break your momentum While you're writing and I don't want to change anything new While you're still in that area, right? I gotta get some lunch. I'm either you're gonna stop here Or I can hit my camera and hang out and eat but No, I think I think we're good. We've been going for two hours. Um, we can always do more later or I mean It's whatever you really want to do. I'm fine the rest of the day So if you just want to take a break and come back and do another episode or if you want to eat on camera I don't really have anything else to add right now. Um, I'm still formulating Well, I I have been adding and I think I've added a considerable amount actually Uh, but yeah, the later scene down here. I got several paragraphs already done Um, so we put it we put in work today. That's that's for sure and it's going wonderfully um And if I if I were to do anything else today, I would probably just be layering what you already have Uh with like character descriptions and whatnot I also want to try and fit in Where the most natural place for this wick discussion is? um Just to throw it in there that they do have money for something But maybe they're out of vouchers because there is there's six fucking people living off one person's wick so They'll be using their their uh food stamps to buy gum so that they get the 75 cents back for each dollar I don't know if you ever did that before but no I didn't Oh, yeah, because you you can't you know, you obviously can't buy cigarettes and stuff with uh, right Food stamps so you buy a pack pack a big red And then you just you have another friend buy a pack a big red another friend Yeah, I used to do that. I didn't know you could do that. I'm no wonder they switched over the ebt cards Um, but uh, this is back when you had booklets of like the paper right right the actual food stamps um, and now it's the ebt card, but uh I would I don't think he his drink drink a thing. Yes, I have I got my copy. I've been drinking anyways Hang on, uh, I'm getting distracted by chat. Uh We used to sell our food stamps like uh 50 cents and a dollar kind of thing So if we had 100 we would make 50 bucks that kind of thing. Um, but that's the only thing I've really Really ever did as far as that was concerned.   You should be able to pay for this that and the other. I was like, I'm literally homeless Working all my money is going to trying to find a place to live or it's going to food How am I supposed to find a place to live when I'm only making you know, I think it was like 5 25 an hour back then Um, but anyways, it was it was a mess uh But yeah, I used to when I was younger mom would literally have me go sell The food stamps to I didn't even know you could do that. I didn't think they gave you cash back at all I thought it was a matter of you know, you just had to lose that money or get you know over that amount I didn't know they gave you your cash back. Um Maybe my mom do that, but I didn't but yeah, she would send me over to neighbors and it's like go trade this in They know how much to pay So and that's why we were stuck eating What we ate, which was basically the bear bear minimum Um, we didn't have milk for like four years Uh, because we couldn't afford it and that was back when milk was like a you know, like it wasn't any more than a dollar 50 Uh, and we had to drive through dairy in our uh In our neighborhood and that place was even more expensive But it was the closest place so dad would go down to get that because he was lazy He didn't want to get out of his truck And you pull up and tell people I don't know if you've ever done a drive through Dairy, but you literally pull up and it's like a convenience store But you drive up tell the person what you want and then they grab everything and you pay for it So, um, yeah, there's a party there's a party store around here like that But not not like specifically dairy got you they they literally called them dairy Drive up dairies when but there was more stuff there. There was candy bars You know other groceries and whatnot, but you didn't have to get out of the car Uh, you just pull up tell the person behind where that it was Usually like a small brick building and it was just an open face Convenience store and then the corrugated metal Door the garage door basically would would never be all the way up there to always be this this line of that Anyways, but yeah, uh good amazing work today. Um Looking forward to convenient convenient store milk. Yes convenient milk store. Yes Yes, not convenient store can a convenient milk store. Yes, but they had other things other than dairies But that's what we called them was a drive-up dairy Um, just like it took me a long time when I first moved out here to stop calling every gas station I went to a liquor store because out in california The liquor the the gas stations had liquor, you know out here they don't I don't know what it's like up in michigan, but um the year I remember when I I I I lived in denver for a little while in the 80s and when I remember moving out there And anytime I would say party store They're like, what the heck are you talking about like we get balloons and stuff I'm like, what no where you go to party man.  I'm like, okay. Yeah liquor store Out here a liquor store is like the abc store or whatever. Um, that's uh, That's what they call liquor store out here because you can't sell hard liquor Anything over a certain abv you can't sell uh at the at a convenience store grocery store here And then some some counties are dry sundaes Mine just switched like two years ago to where you can actually buy alcohol on a sunday And the only place you could get it before that was like shorter where they have the uh, the Native american racetrack and casino and all that stuff because it's their land you can do whatever they can do whatever they want um, and shorter didn't sell like, uh Beer cans or anything like that to charge as much as possible. They would literally run a keg into old milk cartons Sanitized and whatnot, but you'd get a you'd get an entire gallon of beer Is that was the only and then there was a one point in time draft beer was illegal here You could only do the bottles or stuff stuff like I don't even know why any of these rules existed But uh, yeah, so shorter was the only place you could get draft beer and it was the only place you could get beer on sundaes Uh, so yeah, I spent a lot of time in shorter when I was younger. That's for that's for damn sure anyways um I don't know where i'm gonna fit in all the stuff that I wrote but It's good to have it there.   Sorry. There was no pre-recorded video today But I figured if there's still a video today It's whatever, uh, but you got a review for this book coming tomorrow. So you look forward to that. Um Do you want no, uh, we're not streaming tomorrow morning because I have a doctor's appointment Do you want to do something later in the day or do you just want to call it? quits until I would but I got final guys tonight and I haven't watched the main feature. Yeah so, um, I probably I probably shouldn't yeah, let's let's just quit off for tomorrow. Um, and and tonight and We'll do thursday. We'll get back on a thursday morning nine o'clock. Is that cool or ten o'clock for you? Yeah, ten o'clock. Yeah All right, so we'll see you guys on thursday. Thanks again for watching But until next time I'll hail the cheese


Going on everyone Sam here with late sports garter been 22 PDNT football hobby four box full case breaking our 107 ran Division style look again a ran results as always find those on the website under the results tab as well as the link in chat Good luck everybody How much is a box? 2700 shorts, right here. We go It is Ella is the clippers Yeah, I even let me watch Let's start here we go George Pickens AFC North Nice one there to 99. That's a good start. Jeffery H. I'm gonna one-of-one Christian McCaffery. Oh, we're here. We go Congrats Jeffrey. There it is. Get that into a mag for a Jeff. Good stuff is always buddy Mari Cooper to 99. We're not rookie, but century material Jersey Cartford Browns FC North FC West Joshua Palmer that is at 25 of Fortnutt big poem. Yeah, see I'm sees nice Sick NFC East that is gonna be Leighton Van der Resch 26 of 49 got quad is Ben Rathasberger Jerome Bettis Heinz Ward and Antoine Randall L 21 of 99 AFC North nice one there you go Terry very cool God NFC East 99 no 49 Daryl Green Fastest guys ever very nice very nice. This is kind of cool I haven't seen this guy. Yeah, FC East the 49 Steve Grogan Yeah Whoa AFC West do a lot of Justin Herbert and Austin Echler both on card. There we go Harper The AFC West Congrats, buddy. Let's go Harper Herbie and a Austin Echler Not too bad there 1849 I'm getting to a mag as well and then crossover RPA to color NFC North going to Terry is Christian Watson That's on that one there Jesus John Steve Grogan the QB. I think he was the QB and they boss of the Bears. I think he was 85 I think that's that's broken out correct me if I'm wrong if anybody knows, but I that's what I think Stafford to 56 NFC West and to 15 is that Crescott NFC East AFC North is David Bell rookie at dual Jersey to 49 43 of 49 49 DJ more go into the NFC South Three-color patch, huh under the bot. What do you mean boarding? That is a 2 of 10 Warren Moon NFC North NFC North again That didn't register for a second Justin Fields that's six to 25 NFC North Nice three-color patch another NFC North nice one again is gonna be a Monro St. Brown There you go Terry There could be there could be it'll be on the bottom one though Very well could be I'll double-check it at the end.  Yeah, dude. That was awesome massive massive hit dude. Congrats, buddy 49 of 49 that is gonna be going to the AFC East Hey Erica Zucan ma true RPA and Chris O'Lave crossover rookie patch autograph hollow silver going to the NFC South Here we go at Drew Congrats Drew. That's one there and yes, there was good catch on that one The treasure hunt metal cart he's come like one every what would you say like five six cases? Is Kenneth Walker nice one there NFC West 24 of 25 on the silver It's nice one AFC North Jamar chased the 99 It's actually pretty sick. It's going to Harper with the AFC West. That's gonna be in Midnight 4 of 20 with Danny and Tomlinson love the Midnights TJ Khaled another one Aaron Jones and AJ Dylan 21 of 25. There's this guy whose entire account is just hating on DJ Khaled on Tik Tok It's so funny.  I love is my favorite number God Sam Williams NFC East 26 to 35 Rookie Auto again NFC East on that one AFC West is Josh Jacobs 20 of 99 AFC West Nice that is 99 of 99 Trey McBride three colored RPA NFC West going to Jeffrey on the horizontal RPA Pretty nice one here the man who buys the Commanders and all the brakes anyway Going to Harper with the NFC East 57 to 99 Sam Howell rookie prime signatures booklet Congrats, buddy As always congrats Was he really wow you did throw a hell of a lot of yard Jesus man, we have three touchdowns four touchdowns some crazy this one there congrats Harper 57 and 99 box of NC ten box Tuesday coming up after this everybody Yeah, I'm not gonna have a ton of time. I have like under an hour to do personals But I should be able to clear everything that's in queue right now. That'll be the goal Let us again I'll be going to the AFC West of 50 is modern masters Justin Herbert a lot of Herbert in this break Playing about that for sure that is Brian burns one of ten Yeah Ramsey look good to speak really good NFC West Debo at Samuel 14 of 49 NFC West Sunday Treasures three of 99 AFC North that is mr. JK all-day Dobbins Maybe not right now Generally generally Got the AFC West is Vaughn Miller champ Bailey of Brian Dawkins 60 of 99 Nice one here rookie auto a NFC West 11 or 25 Kobe Bryant evidently Joshua evidently not wrong This guy's actually kind of nice cheeky a quank. Well 5 and 99 the starting tight end in Tennessee now AFC South Chickas M aka chiggy as Scott Hanson calls him chiggy a quank or chig a quank. Well, that's one there AFC South Absolutely, I'll blindly follow that NFC East 36 at 49 Jeremy shocky on the NT Jersey auto Rats on that one. We've got seven and 99 and that is gonna be a Vilas Jones jr. Three colored RPA NFC North So I'm there on the crossover. So again, this is what the Olavé will look like 299 Filled and then another booklet 93 and 99 going to the AFC South Malik Willis on the rookie first edition signatures. These are clean man I really like this look three colored are Empty like recap here everybody We've got Debo triple for the Broncos JK Dobbins, Terry McLauren, Ronnie Locke, AJ Dillon Aaron Jones, Jima Justin Fields Warren Moon is a Viking still odd DJ Moore, David Bell, Leighton Van Der Resch, Josh Palmer, Mara Cooper, Quadra Steelers for the AFC North Autos we had Vilas Jones, Kobe Bryant, Chiggy a Juanco, Jeremy Shockey, Sam Williams, Tray McBride Josh Jacobs, Chris Olavé, Erica Zucconma, Mason Crosby, Monro St. Brown, Christian Watson, Steve Grogan and Daryl Green. The couple of booklets we had as well were the First edition signatures in Malik Willis. We had the rookie prime signatures booklet Sam Howell Then we had the Justin Herbert and Austin Eckler dual on Cardado 18 of 49 and then a one-of-one Christian McCaffrey Break everybody. Thanks again for the filth. Up next is a 10 bucks


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We define a leaf to be a vertex with degree 1. Suppose G is a tree with N vertices. You might be a discrete mathematician if the first question you ask is, How many? And in this case, how many leaves could it have? Since G is a tree with N vertices, it has N minus 1 edges. So the handshake theorem tells us that the sum of the degrees of all vertices will be... Since trees are connected, no vertex has degree 0. So if we want to say something about leaves, let's start up with the simplest idea. Suppose there are no leaves. If no vertex has degree 1, then all N vertices have degree 2 or more. So the degree sum would be at least 2N, which is impossible. So every tree has at least one leaf. In fact, we can prove, well actually you can prove, every tree has at least two leaves. The fact that every tree has vertices of degree 1 suggests a pruning algorithm. Suppose we eliminate the leaves of a tree. Now the removal won't disconnect the graph, and it won't create a cycle. So eliminating the degree 1 vertices from a tree produces a connected graph with no cycles. But that's another tree. And this suggests a way we can decide if a graph is a tree. Suppose we have a graph that is a tree. Then removing all degree 1 vertices will produce another tree. So the new graph will also have degree 1 vertices. Contra positively, if removing the degree 1 vertices from a graph G does not produce a graph with degree 1 vertices, then G was not a tree. So for example we might try to decide if this horrific graph is a tree. So we'll remove degree 1 vertices and their incident edge. So let's start by removing this one. Then these two, which are on the same edge. Then this one. Then this one. Again these two are on the same edge, so we'll remove them. And we end with a graph where there are no degree 1 vertices. Since we end with a graph with no degree 1 vertices, the original graph is not a tree. Or how about this graph? We'll remove degree 1 vertices and their incident edge. And if we continue to do so, we'll end with a tree. But that doesn't mean the original graph was a tree. So the thing to keep in mind is if we start with a tree, the removal of degree 1 vertices will produce another tree. But we actually need the converse. If the removal of a degree 1 vertices produces a tree, then we started with a tree. We need to prove this. Technically we don't need to prove this, but if you hope to base a billion dollar industry on it, it's probably worth finding a proof. So let's consider the algorithm could end in one of two ways. Either we get down to two vertices joined by one edge, or we get down to a single vertex with no edges. Let's work our way backwards. So suppose we end with two vertices and one edge. Since we got here by eliminating vertices of degree 1, then in the previous stage we would have eliminated some number of vertices and the same number of edges. So our graph would have had 2 plus n0 vertices and 1 plus n0 edges. So it would be connected with 1 less edge than vertices, and we know that the connected graph with 1 less edge than vertices is a tree. Now lather rins repeat. If the previous step had eliminated n1 vertices and n1 edges, the graph would have this many vertices and this many edges. And again, that's one viewer edge, so it would still be a tree. And going all the way back to the beginning, the original graph must have been a tree. What if we end with an isolated vertex? This graph has one vertex and zero edges. And adding back the degree 1 vertices would give us this many vertices and this many edges. So the original graph would have been a tree as well. And so if you start with a tree, you end with a tree, and if you end with a tree, you must have started with a tree.