Yay, the the the peak of all of the movies in the Soul franchise spiral. Yeah, everyone's a bit a lot about this. I assume everybody got very popular, very famous. Oh, yeah, I didn't know anything. No, I didn't. I lied.  I'm sorry. Well, yeah, I've got a lot to say about it. But I'll wait until the movie ends. I'll say about it in terms of I guess what you should know before watching the film is it was originally going to release, I think May of 2020. And then they were like, no, we've got it because COVID happened. And they're like, no, you've got to watch it in the theaters, bro. They were like responding on Twitter to people saying, like, can you just release this on digital like everybody else is doing? They're like, no, this has to be seen in theaters. And what is so bizarre about that is not only did they push it forward a year to, like, I think May 2021. But this is the first one where they just completely abandoned the Halloween release date. They were like, we don't even want to release it in October, which was just so bizarre. And I'll go into more detail about that later. That is weird. Is there anything you know, Tiffany, about like the way this was made? Like it was like we want more soul. But then Chris Rock got involved somehow. They were planning on doing another saw film. And then I think Chris Rock met somebody at a party or they got in Chris Rock got in contact somehow and was like, yo, guys, I've always wanted to make a saw movie. And they were like, let's just let him do it because he's Chris Rock. And so this is Chris Rock's passion project, essentially, where he races. This is really his film. He's not the director. They brought back Darren Lynn Bousman from saw two and three. And I think four. I need to see that board man, though. They're like, yeah, Chris Rock can sell a soul movie. Like, why? They heard his name and they thought dollar signs because we'll get people into the theater because there's a name. Like, I don't know if you said Arnold Schwarzenegger will be in the next soul movie. Like, what? Why? Why would he do that? He's about to play a game. I mean, that would be pretty cool. But yeah, like it's like, oh, yes, Chris Rock. He's Jigsaw. But yeah, as a selling point, that's really weird. And then I remember them being like, Sam L. Jackson's also at it. It's like, why? Playing for a check, motherfucker. Important thing to note. This is the only film in the entire franchise that Kevin Grudertz was not really a part of because he is not the editor in this film. The only ones he didn't edit previously, he directed. So he was not directing or editing this film. But you said he's coming back for the new, new, new, new, new one. He is directing the Saw 10. Yeah, the Saw 10, which we'll have to all come back together for. I feel like that's the best possible buildup we can get. I'm excited to start this up. Thank the Lord. It's an hour and a half. So that is, you know, thanks, Satan. Yeah. And this one has big actors. So that means it's going to be very good. Very good. Already the best one. All right. Everyone's on three. I am on the table. One, go. Oh, God, we're in space. Oh, my goodness. It's on his face like he looks like someone who goes to fairs. Oh, no, that sound of it.  Go do it. That reaction. He's like shaking his head back and forth. He's like a superhero. I can't believe this criminal stuff right there already feels very clumsily. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, this is shaky cam. It's really good. That means it's tense. This is a tense moment. That's the language of filmmaking. Wow. He really wants that purse. You have a gun. Oh, my God.  He just cries. You're pointing guns at people. You point it back at him. Honestly, that's how you know he's a great. Yeah. Well, after you should have noticed, it was a firework. No, I've got to get out of here. You know what? I'd better follow him.  Who goes there? Okay. He doesn't want me to go that way. This is not what someone would do in law enforcement. Right.  You'd probably just let them go. This guy's a maverick. The woman's like, that was my carnival purse. It's a decoy.  Like, you just don't care. Also, that's that's not a real person. Obviously, a dummy. Yeah, they give the face motherfuckers of this guy. This guy's a dummy. Oh, no.  I guess they're both dummies. That's a different pig mask. I hate that. I think it was just a real pig head. Yeah. The new pig mask for a new generation. Capturing him, hinged on him going down there. He's done a lot. It hinged on him being carrying it. OK, he's out. Ew. Well, he's also hanging up. Jesus Christ. Wait, he was unconscious. He could have. That is a.    Hello, Detective Bosswick. I want to play a game.  The worst voice ever, maybe. You have taken the witness stand many times and we're loaded innocent people with your lies, putting them away in jail. Why is the TV so old? Wow. Why is audio so good? Where's the audio coming from? I guess it's 2021. Yeah. You had to go to like a store. One of those old person died. Take a leap of faith and you will live. Only your weight will rip away your mind, tongue, and save you. I mean, if you were unconscious, you would have. Yeah, yeah. Already, but his tongue should already be ripping it. Yeah.  It doesn't even look like your tongue can't. It was so fake. Yeah, it does. Yeah, yeah, it does. Well, that's that's that's big tongue. Oh, Maui. That's his mom. Your eyes on the tree. Hey, I'm sure you love driving the subway.   Maybe the maybe the saw killer knows that the train driver is a bad person. Then what all the people on the train breaks wasn't my game.   Yeah, yeah, just barely. I mean, if he stepped off the ladder, he still would have died from blood loss. If he pulled himself over on the chain, he could have run along the top of the train like an animal. Also, cutting his tongue off is one thing, but tearing it out. I don't even know what kind of damage you're looking at there. Yeah, it's going to bleed like crazy. Oh, my goodness. It's internationally known comedian Christopher Rockinson. And it's such a like, wait, what, we watch it again? It's like, yeah. OK.  So believe it or not, this is supposed to be very funny. In interviews, Chris Rock was talking about how he would add ad lib comedy into the scenes and just so the funny movie also. Look at these guys. They're struggling to face it straight. E.  Eventually they got together. Yeah. After she got AIDS. And what's so confusing about this is they acted as if it was like some revolutionary thing like, oh, yeah, we're going to inject comedy into Saw when this isn't that different than the type of comedic banter you'd see in other films that involve like law enforcement or like comedy crime.  But there's usually some sort of playful banter. And yeah, the music is a very odd choice for this. With what? Come. Give me a minute.  Is he just going to shout the whole movie? I guess he really is just going to shout. Well, it's weird. This is a scene, I guess. Very weird. Darren Lynn Bowzman said he shot this entire part as a wonder and then they trimmed it down. So OK. Maybe that makes sense why it's so awkward. A lot of the movie got cut. Apparently, I don't know how long it was going to be. I don't know how long the first cut was. If it's still like an hour and a half. Yeah, boss, the Bowzman cut. But I already hate it. Oh, yeah, some people are demanding that. And I'll explain why later. In conspicuous as fuck, driving out. This didn't work out for him, huh?    You don't clear it. There's no coordination. We are homicide. But you're robbing drug dealers. Wait, he didn't tell anybody he was undercover? I had a boyfriend who got killed. That crew killed four people last week. And we got him. And we could have gotten more of him if my cover wasn't blocked.  I mean, if you don't tell anybody, how are they supposed to know? The performance is. He's so undercover the department didn't know.  No backup, nothing. No backup, because there's nobody on the force.  Can't tell anybody because he can't trust anyone. Well, then you just fuck, don't you?  I get a medal for it.  I also got a bullet. And I got to look over my back for the rest of my career. A nice bit of exposition.  Listen to their interview footage. They're all contradicting each other. He was atop of his academy, so don't screw this up. Zeke is going to break you in to show you the room. Oh, it's the new guy. Top of the academy.  Slightly Hispanic people.  They are awfully bushy. Detective Browse. Hernandez, get over there. So he turned in a crooked cop, and that's why none of the cops trust him any. They don't like it. That's interesting. Because all cops hate it when you turn in crooked cops. Because all cops are crooked, you see. Just literally no good one. Except Chris Rock. Except for the new guy. The new guy. In Arkansas, maybe they are all corrupt, to be fair. You don't want to be my partner. You don't know that. Your dad's the reason for all of this. Oh, that's his dad. Just so happen to be there. Samuel L. Jackson is Chris Rock's father. Are they not like close to the same age? No, actually, Sam Jackson's nearly 80. He's getting up there, man, yeah. He shouldn't be allowed to age, I think. It's one of those types of people that he's saved, preserved. Should be illegal. But what are you going to do? They need to record him saying motherfucker in every possible way. What's up with the soundtrack? Yeah, I really like it. It's none of it matches anything that they're going for. It's not even like communicating any kind of real emotion. Couldn't even save it for like a diagetic car radio. They had to play it as if it's like score.  It's like it doesn't even sound like a real song. So that's 12 minutes in. I haven't seen Hoffman anyway. What's going on?  Maybe it's because you call them bitches. I'm half Italian, trust me. Women do not like it when you call them bitches. What are you telling me about women?  I just said it to you. This is supposed to be very funny. Oh, I was laughing. My mic just didn't pick it up for whatever reason. Yeah, RTX voice. It detects laughter, and it just blocks it from the world. Yeah, we're all very, very around, yeah. Whistling or violin. It's just like, nah, that's not confirmed. We're all crying laughing. It took me forever. It took me forever to figure out that that's what they were going for. In the interview footage, they say it. But this is so funny. Yeah. Well, because they thought it was like some groundbreaking thing. Like, well, if you took son, you put comedy in it. It's like the first saw had some comedy in it. Like Adam's character was saying, you know, there were some riffs and jokes. Like, there was intentional comedy in there. Oh, also another one that they cut down. Here we go. Shit, sorry. Sorry for what? We're cops. This is the life we choose. Highest divorce rate. Highest suicide rate. Highest rate of domestic violence. Yell this on the subway. Yes.  I don't know. I feel like all that might just be you. Yeah. I understand trying to do like cop banter, like an end of watch or something like that. But this, in particular, comes off as too expository.    This has been going on for 10 minutes. This looks like another attempted winner. Oh my god. And it's so weird because they're attempting to be like mature and show offy. But Darren Lynn Bousman's a man child. And he's only pretending to be mature. Like he thinks he's grown up.  And he's pretending it's something else there. It's like, we're going to change the color grading. And it's going to be a real detective story. And I'm not a baby anymore. Like that's literally what the movie is. I'm a big kid now. That's literally what the movie is. This bum's going to be tough to ID. I don't know a lot of bums trying to get their steps in. Whoever this is is married. And where's a Fitbit? OK. All right. Is that like a mutually conflicted statement? It's either one or the other. We're doing great. We've introduced our main detectives. We've got some tension within the detective agency. And we've got sores on in order to conducting games. This is a great movie. Yeah, it's just using with artists. Cheek, comedy. They were intentionally trying to do like the opposite color choice. Do like warm colors instead of cold like all the other films were. The entire point of this, including the title, like, oh, it's not saw anymore. It's spiral from the book of saw. And we're not going to release it in October. It's going to be a regular summer movie.    And nobody knows what this movie is supposed to be. It's such a big disaster. You have some bitterness toward this film. Yeah, just a little bit. I like that it's the book of saw, like it's some great literature. Yeah, that's super embarrassing. I don't know why they called it that. Oh, you know, the book where I thought the Jigsaw killer was dead. Yeah, but if it's another copycat. I like that he said another copycat. Like, yeah, how many have they been? Yeah, another other other 78 many. And yeah, I think that's an excellent choice. Another other accomplice for a new soul voice. The super awkward like in cell. This slightly distorted woman. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's the point of having a soul without Tobin Bell? Seriously, yeah. All you need is Chris Rock, Moller. Whoa, action. Yeah, that was like a lot of this. I wonder if they got a stuntman to do that. No, Chris, not his own stunts. That going to be the tongue. Hey, I know that tongue anywhere.  That's big tongue, O'Malley's tongue. But everyone recognizes big tongue, O'Malley. Yeah. No, bored wits. God, so young, so much tongue. Dental records confirm it's buzz. Sorry, guys.  All right, guys, what if we took saw and took out all the fun? Yeah, I was going to say, like you say, it's got all the fun. They put Chris Rock in here. Yeah, the most overloading on fun. You called Karen. Yeah. You know, Karen. No, did you actually talk to her or did you text her?  Trust issues. Did they have a dead husband emoji?   Someone has to know that boss is dead. This is mine. Me and the Rook were first on scene. You sound like a child. All right, isn't this protocol now you're part of the team again.   Oh, God, why are you back from internationally renowned comedian Christopher Rockinson? This film's like stale. Yes, I don't believe any of his performance. Like he's always hiding like a friend.  I feel like he's about to like burst into laughter. Like he went into the ladies room. Whoa. Oh, I only stay when what? Why couldn't you make him like the killer?  He makes an opportunity for a jar of that. Like if if he was pissing, it's like get out. It's like I can't piss him. I got I got to go until I got to get it all out, you know. I feel like why would you come here to have your beef? Yeah, you hear that you hear him peeing and it just keeps going and going and going. It's like a league of their own. Going and going. Austin Powers stops that it continues. Yeah, but it's a shame that we're not internationally renowned comedians who can come up with these things on the fly. You mean for their comedic effect? I know some of you guys think I'm a rat. Jesus Christ, we're not racist, Chris. Some of you are mad.  That character that was funny. That guy thought it was funny. Buzz was last seen at the July 4th parade. It's Stuart's point. We already know that very patriotic.  Check your hashtags, Instagram. That guy's on the phone. What? How'd he get on the phone so quickly?  Now he's hung up on whoever that was. Yeah, Brian, you good? No problem here, Captain. Kill someone already. Look at that walk. He's so powerful. Well, this is glad we had that scene where he went to the car. Yeah, you can't even like walk to doors without the shot.  You know, normally in these movies, you have like an A plot, which is the people in the traps and the beat. Actually, the B plot where you have all of the traps and the A plot where cops are talking to each other. This is just that plot. You don't even have the part that it cuts to with the people in the traps trying to escape or something. Well, that's a little bit of a soft fill. There is some. It's not a baby anymore. OK, I guess this isn't this wasn't doomed to be a disaster. You could have made this work. Yeah, you just had to do it without Chris Rock and Darren Lynn Bazeman. You could even do it with the two most important people.   It's like that's at least even at the base level of being bad at something. Yeah, but this is just something to watch. Yeah, in the in the interview footage for this film, Darren Lynn Bazeman is essentially just shitting on the older movies. He's like, yeah, I was in my 20s when I made saw two and three and they were kind of like dumb movies. And so we didn't want to like make a dumb movie again. And it's like, could you imagine hiring someone under the project that doesn't respect the franchise at all? You are. Oh, yeah, that would be crazy. What's happening? I made like bad movies then and I don't like them. So we're going to do something. It's like, OK, I'm sorry. Could you imagine hiring someone who doesn't respect the previous stuff is like, yeah, I know that's nuts. Like, yeah, how could that happen on this day that's like. But no, I don't I don't read those.  It's pretty simple, which is why 10 has potential because Kevin Grudert is the voice of the series. You put a gun on your man.  I could have killed you. I could have killed you. No, but your gun wasn't pointed at him. Yeah, but that doesn't give you the right to just walk in here anytime you want. This guy, he's a landlord. OK, this is the worst. And I'm going to wait. No paying rent. I don't know. We've had a lot of bad conversations on the pathway to spiral. You talking about will it you talking about will it you talking about will it. This is so cringe. Oh, you did not say what you talking about will it. You did not say it. It was funny. It was so funny. Dad, you're my dad and we live in the same building. The downside of black not cracking is I can't tell who's the father and who's the son. Everyone, we've made it to a third of the film. What I don't like is that I'm now seeing the writing credits. The two writers had only written jigsaw. None of the other stuff. They've got nothing else.  I mean, like in terms of saw movies, they wrote Piranha 3D. Ring me my legs. Titanium motherfuckers. We have to watch the Piranha series, Piranha, Piranha 2, Piranha 3D, Piranha Revengeance, Piranha Revelations, Piranha, the final chapter and Piranha, the final chapter, part two. No, the last chapter and the final chapter should be two different movies. We would have been two traps at this point. Two, five. I don't know. Shit, more than nothing's happening. What I mean by that, I actually like I would have preferred to watch a sequel to the people who made the previous one at this point. Absolutely. So incredibly boring. Well, Darren Lynn Bousman is not a baby. And now you know that. And that's what's important. It's not important that you're entertained. It's important that you know he's not a baby anymore. Which ones did he make? Two, three and four. Boring films are better films. Didn't three skull is one of the lowest for us. Two and three skull are very large. Let me see that kind over there. The one on the left. Yeah, yeah, come on, come on. On behalf of the Metro Police. I want to thank you for generosity. You don't have ammo. You can't do that. You're no ammo stealing. Police can just take whatever is no ammo. Good work today. Thanks, man. See you tomorrow. They've come so far. He said good work. Remember when they made it? They were like, you don't want to be my pawn. Yeah, well, then they've come a long way. They've come a long way in this story.  I'm trying to find things that are happening in this. We're over half an hour in. It's not fair. It feels like it's been a century. I don't know. Oh, this is a little blue. All right, he's getting captured, surely. Give me a sore trap, for Christ's sake. He's going to go, this is where you flock. This is the burnt down bread. I just realized that we're going to get the goofy sore voice. Hello, detective. You've spent your whole life wanting it. We're going to get Brianna Wu as Jigsaw. Mom, Benny, get up. I don't want the new Pig Mask at all, lame. Could you not tell if there wasn't a body under the blanket? Yeah, I don't like the new one. I didn't like the old one. I love the old one. It was folded very particularly. Yeah, the old one was great because we found out that he chose pigs because pigs feel compassion and it totally wasn't that he ran into a pig parade at some. Oh, God, piggy. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Wait, so if you can be for one reason, just turn there a little further. Really? Just would have had to run that on. Ah, nobody. Yes, yes. Put him in a thing. He's in jail. We're not doing that. He's in chains and stuff. Thank goodness. Ooh, oily goodness. 33 minutes through the film. We get our second trap. Second trap, yeah. Oh, he's got the tongue again. What's going on with this one? Oh, OK. That starts fast. Good. Oh, no, a Chinese finger trap. But with a shouldn't have taken the gun from that Chinese man. Yeah. He said, all right, they're doing a Chinese water torture and a Chinese finger trap at the same time. Wow, this is elaborate. That is very elaborate. More Chinese friends. How are those staying on your fingers? So just take them off. Wait, is it getting electrocuted? How are those on your fingers? Oh, no, not the voice. Up yours, woke moralists. Hello, Dr. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Hello, what are you thinking? Hello. We're playing a game. Oh, oh, we're done with that. Well, I'll go back and the movie's over.  Oh, because he's not a baby. Yeah, but it just said baby crying. What do you mean? We didn't even get to see him have a slice. Oh, is he already post slice? Yeah, he's post slice. Oh, he's got post slice clarity.  Jesus, the court outs. That's like Chris Rock's board to. Yeah, it's a runny delivery. Oh, thanks. I can't believe it's just the good. It's just been some guy who's like, oh, yeah, that's for me. I guess he's finally nice. He's got the slice. Many slices. God, I wish I could see.  That's fine. Like a good fresh slice of pizza and a train. I love pizza. All right, fake mustache, fake mustaches. So you can tell us a different point in time. Thank goodness. You know, someone was so excited in production to glue a mustache to Samuel Jackson's face.  I love the idea that they were about to stop filming. He just has it. And they're like, wait, why does he have a mustache? Like Sam Jackson just wanted it. He found it somewhere. He's calling the shot up. He showed up to say, oh, no. Oh, my goodness. Well, that's the door. It doesn't make any sense. It wasn't even in the frame. What's happening?  Who is that? I don't know. It's just a reporter. Is he going to be Saw Guy? Oh, look, is that a reporter? Yeah, that's not photoshopped. Oh, oh, my God. This is one of the most pathetic films ever.   We're holding him for questioning. We're holding it. Oh, I thought you said the box. We're holding it for questioning. This tell me the truth. He doesn't not even use the gloves anymore. This film calls so that Saw 10 can run. Hello, Detective Banks.  It was very early you see it in theaters. No, no, no. It's a new guy at all. Oh, God. Make it and start by pointing them at yourself. Yeah, start by pointing at yourself.   Why did they do that? He's killing me. They established that basically anybody could turn their own voice into the Jigsaw voice. Why don't you just do that? Dang.  They play a lot of work into the voice, too, is what they said.  Yeah. We went through a lot of different voices, and this is the one we decided was the best. Yeah. We went through one and variations of the one, but you could still tell what they were going for.  What is with his face? Yeah, he's so serious.  He's not convincing. Oh, no, big sounds. No. I'm glad we had that loud noise. A brown note. No. Wah. Wah. Oh, I guess he died then. Do we see the end of that trap?  It's big. Are we really not going to see the trap? No. Why are we going back to?  We've got to know why he's a crooked cap. He's dead. This guy, he was requesting backup, but he was too busy doing nothing. He's got a hat. Wow, that looks awesome.   For some reason, they hired the same composer, Charlie Clouser, but they got him to do more generic everything music. They're like, no, you can't.  Yeah. Oh, my boy. You can tell this is past, because I don't know what's past. Everyone's here. My son called for backup three times.  Oh, remember when you were a crooked cop? Nobody, nothing.  OK.  Wow, all I literally did was turn. All I did was turn my body. It's so embarrassing.    Just so embarrassing. Detective. No, stop. Stop it. And remember, remember, remember, remember, remember.  In 90 seconds, the water will. In 90 seconds, the water will rise.  Number 15. You like fries? What's that? Oh, that would be so much better.  Oh, remember when you were a crooked cop? And that cannot happen again. Oh, the first cap was tongue because of the words. And this time, it's fingers because his finger pulled the trigger. OK, so creative. The motor that will rip your fingers away. Is Jigsaw supposed to sound like a depressed ex-girlfriend? Listen, if only you knew how bad things had gone. One more time. Make your choice. They can use this to inspire white-oven bell retains.   Yeah.  Where'd that go? Oh, you're right. They did the same thing, where he went through the pain and pulled it and pulled off, but he still died. Bad ending. Bad ending. We're just saying that from the very beginning. I was about to say that. Yeah, I never could have won. He never could have won that.  It's absolutely.  He took a tiny gap, and apparently that was enough to. And even if he hadn't, he still wouldn't have gotten out in time. What if we make traps, can we take out everything fun about them? Do you remember how in the early movies, they tried to have it be that when there were traps that you couldn't get out of, it was like a twist reveal that a different character with different motives Yeah, but they think that you could have gotten out of that one, I think. I don't know. Yeah, and I mean, still, at the end of the day, even in those, even in Saw 3, where it was like, oh yeah, some of those at the beginning sort of thing. The film was still filled with other traps where you could imagine as an audience member, it's like there's a question as to whether or not they could get out of it. There's still other traps in the movies where it feels like there's that sense of, I don't know, reward or. The two that we've seen so far, the first one was like, yeah, rip out your jaw, basically. Yeah. And then, I don't know, make it for the hospital before you bleed out. And the second one is, hold on to the thing for the entirety of the time that I've afforded you. If you take a five second break, that's it, you're done.  By the way, with the shark and the simple pain thresholds. Jamie, how long can a person even last if they were to rip out their own jaw? Not even sure that that's even possible for just using regular human strength to do that. Wait, that's a YouTuber. That's Chris Ramsey. What? Oh, yeah? Yeah, he does like a magic stuff and something like that. And puzzle boxes. He's even wearing his own merch. What is that? Confirms in his movies. Excellent. Watch the video of his today. That's so funny. It's a different era, isn't it? It really is. This music. All the music's so weird. It sounds like made in the news. It's not even real. It really feels like we've got different movies happening. Dog, dog, dog, dog in the film. There's a dog in the film. Dog in the film. Oh, he's a good boy. He's a good boy. Don't shoot him. He's just strange men running into his house. Yeah. Wait, he's wearing a hat. How old is he? Three. Oh, no. Oh, god, no. Wow, that was a disaster. Yeah, you're fortunate. You might have just killed several people. What do you mean you're not likely? What is that face? You've got to make it easy for the customers.  What? How did that happen? How did that happen? I'm actually curious. He fell on the table, I guess. I don't know how that works, but that's the implication. We shot it. You open the tag, dude? What are you doing? What? What? Who's playing? It's the end of his procedure. You have to Instagram. Is that a car driving through the desert randomly with no roads? That's a video game. That's what the adult who made this thinks a video game is. Thanks for disinfecting. That's nice. Yeah, that is a diss on his leg. Ow, OK. This is surely you can get fired for this. Yeah, Trillis Rock is the good cop. All the other ones are crooked. Yeah, he's not crooked. Did they think this was cool? I don't know. I don't even know what movie I'm watching anymore. Yes, they thought it was cool. That's the end. It's crazy. Did anyone catch why they even went in this hood? I have a bad intention.  He probably had a clue or a lead or something.  It takes forever just to figure out like the emotional intent of a scene. Yeah, not like what they're trying to communicate emotionally shouldn't be that difficult to figure out expressions do not help. They drink water with no ice. You can't even walk and look. I know. Look at that expression. It's embarrassing that he thought he could act in this. Oh, it passed halfway. Alcohol is going to be my problem really soon. Yeah, we're almost two thirds through the movie, by the way. Seriously, I'm counting it down. He's had his foot on the neck of this community for way too long. I'll testify. I'm a stun leaf. Oh, look at the planting. Oh, yeah, there's no fingerprints on it. Yeah, you think you're pretty good at touching a gun. I'm glad we had that scene in the church. Do you think they just had a church to film in? And so they worked up an excuse to have the church? Since when are there trees in Saw movies? I don't know. I don't like seeing greenery in Saw movies. We haven't had an outside since the last two movies. The last two movies have been outside. It was to always be in dingy cells and warehouses or detective places. I want to pitch Saw X to Lionsgate, where Jigsaw, it breaks the fourth wall, and the previous two films exist in the Saw universe. And Jigsaw tortures the directors of those films because they were bad movies. Sterenlin Bowzman. Do you think of yourself as an adult? He's still a baby. On the bomb squad.  We got two dead cops. There's no time. You must change my diaper in 30 seconds. Wait, so there's a chance this is a bomb? And they're like, we got to open it because it could mean that we could save someone's life. So also it could be a bomb. Also, don't move it in here.  Leave it there if it's like a bomb. Also, only one person. Oh, it's big. The aesthetic of that box that they keep using, like every box they open just has like the rope and the light green. It looks so unthreatening, so uninteresting. Yeah. Have you noticed as well that the rope goes over the whole thing, but you can still lift off the cover because the rope is only the string rather. It's wrapped around each individual bit. Yeah. That's really strange. I'll take your head and find me. Oh, careful. Give me a bomb. Oh my god. Cinema. Cinema. Her response, too. Look at his face. He's like cringing. Thinking he's thinking of a joke. They were paid money to do this. He walks like he doesn't know where he's going, what's happening? This art shot, too. It's so many dingo in this shot. They haven't even broken the frame yet. It's the same shot. That's crazy. Oh, no, they didn't. And then they had to cut it down. Yeah. So many wonders. And they just cut it down. Nice. Oh, skin. Wait, so whose body was that? Rookie. That was the Rookie guy. Yeah. So he must have been corrupt? We killed Rookie already. We didn't do anything with him. Yeah. And we're just not going to show. We did nothing with Rookie. The thumbnail for this needs to be like a little collage of all of Chris Rock's faces like these. Just like 18 of them, later on. Well, if you keep it snatched above. He was obviously skinned. Obviously. Obviously. The dad's the reason I want to do this in the first place. The body was torn first, removed with ceaseless and larger strips. If you could try to imagine what the character's supposed to be thinking based on his facial expression alone. Who never, like, what is this? This genuinely feels like a faded photocopy of a bad saw film. Like it's sort of trying to copy what wasn't even good. Rookie, you're such a good guy. Remember, you smiled once. Well, apparently not. You got to be a crooked cop. He must be corrupt in some way for him to get kidnapped by the. What if he was getting too close to solving the mystery and to. But that would be what a good cop does. So they shouldn't punish the cops actually investigating the murders. Right. Let me explain. OK. Bad guys in the soul movies, they don't seem to be that consistent with who they kill.  Angie, you're the head of the department. Oh my god.  The head of the department.  Angie, look out. Angie. Girlie. Duh-duh-duh-duh-duh. Just die already. Well, I mean, she's in the police department. I'm sure she's safe. Good thing I don't look where I'm going. Now shoot him. Shoot him. Wait, yeah, just shoot him. Shoot him, Angie. Just shoot him. Oh my god, that happened. Angie, you have one job. They made it into a sub room. What are you doing?  Oh, yeah, just shoot him. You thought that shooting a bullet at the metal. Yeah, she didn't even aim for a particular posh. She just shot at the steel. What are you doing? What are you doing? Are you shooting randomly? Imagine she just shot herself. She's like, no soul trap, not having that. Boom. Hello, Angie. Hello. What was her sin? He did something corrupt. Being a woman. Oh, hey, imagine she knocked it off the table. Hello, Captain Garza. Oh, stop. Captain Garza. But what if you accidentally hit record on there? You can't see the buttons. The only way to stop yourself from being suffocated is to sever your spinal cord. Oh, what? OK. What? What?  How will that stop the work?  And how does it know when you severed your spinal cord? That's like very important. Oh, it's got a little Wi-Fi detector. And how do you do that? The text colds that are intact. Angie. Angie. Look, I know we're in a rush, but that's a considerate. You can move. So what? Are you telling me there was no one you could call, no one in the whole department, no one even near? You can't trust them. They're all corrupt.   Killer just attacked a cop a third and beamed. That was just a diversion to get us out of the precinct. To get everyone from the precinct? Wait. So nobody visited the base for this whole time? So no one went there. No one checked on her. No one yet. Heard the gunshot. No one needs evidence in the whole department. And the killer was able to rig the door to automatically close and lock behind her all the time. What is he saying, contraption? It's in the police HQ. I can't believe there's a whole soul trap being run right underneath. That doesn't make any sense at all. Hurry up! Combination. Wait. Cut. Yeah, that was weird. What's with the continuity editing here? That's a bit weird, champ. Oh, well, yeah. There you go. Oops. How did this happen? This is so absurd.  That would be really hot to touch. Yeah. Oh, she's dead. She's there. The implication with the steam is that it is a bit. Oh, him! Much more flashy. What are you doing, man? What are you doing? It's in a probe right OK. You in love with her? Or you're giving her CPR? Well, what is that attempt to do it's not? Oh, I thought that was one CPR. Another one bites the dust. Oh, he's been through so much.  I'm expressing. Oh, yeah. And you can tell it's really emotionally affecting him right now. You can totally read that in the performance.  He's editing. The book of God.   They filmed it in a higher frame rate, slow mo, and like this is such a pivotal emotional moment. This film is dripping with ego and incompetence. It's just. I don't know. I get that strong impression. The guy who made this is not a baby. That was the trap set up in the police headquarters. Also, wax. In what looked like 13 minutes according to that. Yeah. His first suggestion was, is there a glitch that the 13 pivotal moments are just gone from there? Maybe try and find the person that obviously had to deliver a large package to the building to set that. Oh, yeah. They used the disgrace cop who went to jail for nine years his card to get in, by the way. That still had access for some reason. Your father had access to. Who was it last time you saw your father?  Oh, wait, yeah, where's Sam Jackson? He's only had one. I'm surprised you had nothing to do with your father's work. Whoa. Getting revenge on all the cops and stuff. Look, everyone's drama. He can barely push it back. Yeah. Wait, is Sam Jackson the killer?  All right, best shot. Best shot. They shaked the camera. This is nothing rumbling the camera. It was over. The jump cut is how you know he's very distressed. Yeah, very distressed. That was a film, though. That was cinema. Definitely not made by a baby. I called you three times. Please call me back. He talks like he's on stage. Oh, no, Piggy. Ooh, Sam Jackson. Oh, we get the flashback to what he was up to. Is this the flashback? Yeah, he went somewhere with his car. Yeah. Spiral. Yeah. From the book of sore. Yeah. Oh, that's the name of the movie. OK. Swirling. Oh, God, your spiral's everywhere.  Oh, my God.  That's what line we wrote for Sam Jackson in a saw film. Check on my new puppet. It looked really hot on it. It's a marionette. I'm going to puppet to show you Sam Jackson. He could have shot. He could have shot. Not cheating. That's a lot. You could have literally just shot him, but you just chose to do something else. He aimed right at his head and then lift the gun up and shot. It's almost like he missed his cue. Play a game together, I guess, or something. Yeah, they have to work together and be father and son again. You OK? I am not OK. Oh, my God. Guys, the ball comes back to this. So they're kind of playing the Samis in the background? Oh, my God, you're ready for the training shot. It's crazy to have a name actor worse than the nobodies in the first film. The writer was one of the actors and did a better job than Chris Rock. Don't do it. Why are you resorting to this? Oh, that was kind of suspiciously placed. Uh-huh. Keeps missing it. They were probably filming him do that for ages. Like, it was a one shot and they cut it down. They did. Yeah. Wow, that was very easy. Is this guy awake? I don't think so. Doesn't look like he's hanging. Everybody sleeps standing up in this universe. I mean, his posture would be very different if he was hanging. Oh, it's the cop. Oh, no, it's not. It's the other guy. Hey, wake up. Peter. Yeah. Come on.  Come on. No, I'm mad at you. I want to play a game when Peter Dunley be murdered an innocent man. Your career was shattered like glass. I don't know. These expressions. It's the same one. Wait, what is this? It's going to shoot bottles at him. Can you run over and knock off the glasses? Yeah, I wouldn't do that. Is it like out of reach or something? It's too high. Well, Zeke seems so unchanged by this. He's kind of just like, huh, I'm surprised he's that coherent. Taste Dave's pretty chill, all things considered.  So the challenge is he has to get him out somehow if he wants to. I think he's dead already. Yeah, look at him. Look at that. The amount of blood loss is going to be insane. You're getting cut everywhere.  So glasses go down into it.  Oh, you can see his spine. He's done, though. You can see his spine. He's dead. Don't do it now. Wait for it to whatever. Oh. Oh, OK. Cool. Wow, you could have put that over the actual things. Yeah, I can't actually do that. Yeah, this is dumb. He's already dead. Yeah, he's done. That's just rock. Wait, why did the machine turn off? Because it knows when he's dead, I guess. So how's he dead? I guess blood on his last hurts.  That was a quick upheave. Yeah, I wouldn't expect him to survive if he'd got him off there with all that happened, but he seemed to die pretty quick. Yeah, well, that's it. All right, bye. That was fun. End of year. Bye. I tried, I guess. I got glass on my face. Game over. Game over. God, that's a big old piece.  Dude, he clearly tried to make it seem like it was deeper, but it was already glue and odd, so it was so easy on him to be glued on. Every time it does that like fast motion in the middle of a shot, I'm willing to bet that every single one of those was just because they needed to trim down the film, and Darren Lin-Basman has zero sense for pacing.  You stare at the floor. Whereas like some films might do that as a stylistic choice. Some films might plan that from the beginning, but. Well, yeah. It's just a bit more than you're film making, you know? Like. Oh. Not surprised at all. Rudy. Hey, it's the one character whose death we didn't show. Wow. Oh my gosh. That's a surprise. He was the true cook crooked cropper. Yeah. When I first watched this, I was trying to figure out, like, is this supposed to be a reveal? Like, I just assumed it was. Yeah, when I first watched it, I was just like, why did they randomly kill off the rookie and not show us what happened? That's weird. His partner killed his father. It's like the most obvious thing in the world. This is Papa, rookie Papa. I'll do it. I wrote the book of saw. It was me. The witness pulled a gun on him. What? What? Do you have any idea how hard it was to get placed in this department? How did you have it so that you guys signed it? Well, they acknowledged it was very hard. So that's all that matters. I don't have a sign. He's, like, baffled by that. Like, how is that possible?  Yeah, good thing they didn't try to match dental records or anything.  So he sent a text from Chris Rock's phone to his dad to meet him there. Luckily for him, Chris Rock never checked this. I see he deleted the messages. I don't even know that that would do it. Oh, what? Blocked it.   And also, if he blocked his dad's number, then wouldn't Zeke have noticed that? At some point, yeah, you'd think. Blocked plus L plus ratio. Eventually, maybe. Well, but he's been trying to contact him. If you try and contact the number you've blocked. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Not back when you were. Fucking. I was lying on the road. So we hit him with a train. Yeah. It's poetic, you know. Thing to do. You want me to help you kill cops. It's just the bad ones. It's the bad ones. There you go. John Kramer was right. Symbol of change, evolution, progress. Symbol of change. John Kramer didn't use the spiral that much. Yeah, you made that up. You made that up. You got shot for doing the right thing. His face. They're not going to clean up on the wrong. We take a tongue here, a few bones there, a come around. We take a tongue here, a few bones there, and they'll come around.   They really like it when you do that. And then they're good apples. Yeah. Oh.  What did his dad do? He was the super crooked cop. He did. Oh, he's dead already. Kramer's blood, that is. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. And look how far they've filled. He's dead. God damn. God, even Samuel L. Jackson would turn white after that. He's got more than your average person's worth of blood. Everybody knows that. It feels like, yeah, didn't they establish this in another soil? You could only lose five pints before you start dying. Yeah. Approximately 10 pints of blood. Yet it is still able to operate with just half of that. Get him down. It's our partners. Maybe he's threatened to kill my father. Oh, see, one bullet.  He took a shot at me, by the way. Missed. I wasted four. Means you got one shot left, Zeke. You said that already, but OK. He knows 1.5 gallons of blood in human body, Zeke. 10 pints. The rate your old man's bleeding out. Just three minutes. Your dad will be dead. You timed this so well. Yeah. You knew how long it would take for him to realize the clothespin or the bobby pin and then free the other guy. Wow. Perfect timing, bro. Chris Rock was the one that pulled in a favor for Samuel Jackson.  What even is all this? Like, you remember Saul? Do you ever watch those movies, Sam? And he's like, yeah, I think one of them or two. I'm dying, Zeke. End it now. I'm an eight-year-old man strung up and bleeding to death.  Oh, no. Article 8. That's the evil one. Remember when they mentioned Article 8 before? It was out of control. Yeah, it's so well-written. Spiral. Kill me. Just shoot me, Plikis. Just shoot me.  I'm still bleeding, by the way, just FYI. I was here. That's why she's been, she got waxed. Angie. It was Angie. Angie.  You can tell what they think that is.  Yeah, that's right, because that's what cops do.  You can kill him later, right?  You don't need to decide. You could shoot me. The music. I've got the actual music. Use not in the way that it's ever been used in any other film, because usually that's when there's like a reveal for a twist. Yeah. But they're just playing it now. Oh, god. He's safe now. Oh, not the blood. We need to round up the building. We need the blood. Dad, drink the blood. Put it back in. Thank you. Don't ask. He's getting away. Motherfucker. I'll be fine. I don't need blood. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I guess I didn't plan for him punching me for all the things I did. I guarantee you, Charlie Clouser didn't compose this part. And they just copy and pasted from the other films. And he didn't intend for that to be here. Yeah. Because this is the first it's ever been used in this context. And Lionsgate was probably like, well, we need to do the saw music at the end, but forgot how it was done. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh. Oh, pulling all the strings. It all fits together.  So if the cops come to rescue, so this is just how they lose, lose. Uh-oh. Oh, God. That's dumb. What? Yeah, we didn't see you strung up by ropes or anything. I don't know if he's going to survive this amount of blood loss. It looks like he's doing a Saturday night live sketches of it. It doesn't seem like real earnest acting. Look, he's right there. Oh, my God. We can't leave. Those cops all around the building and everything.  I hate it. You did it.  Let's talk about the end credit song right now. Oh, wait, what? Oh, yeah. I forget who that is again. It's a. 21 Savage. Yeah, 21 Savage. Thank you. Everything I do, I do. Tis to see it. Kill me. It's the worst movie of 2021. Maybe other years also. That was for Red to sleep. The worst movie of 1968. No, I don't count to say that.  Yeah, cops didn't see the elevator going up. Even make a saw movie. Like the basic things you need to do to make a saw film, they failed that. There's not that much on the checklist to make a saw film. Not. Yeah, it's such a bad attempt to try to be a saw film. Embarrassing. And you had to see it in theaters. We couldn't have released this digitally. You have to see this one in theaters. Trust me. Please tell me this. This didn't money right? Oh, of course it did. Like how? No wonder nobody's ever talked about this film. No wonder at all. Yeah, the reddit really likes it. What? Yeah, they're like, this is one of the. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's just cope. I don't know what it is, but like, there's a good. They're huge chunk of people on the sauce. I've read that really like. What did they say? What is it on the soft subreddit? I don't know. They're probably bots. I have no idea. It's general praise. What was it? Was it because Rocky didn't turn out to die and that was really clever? I don't believe that even people who like this movie comprehend it. I don't I don't like this is one of the most confusing movies ever. God, it was tough to watch. It's like an affluent film that it even exists and is what it is. Yeah, let's let's cancel Lion's Gate. It's good. They had a good run, but it's time to this time. They're still making better decisions. OK.  Is Tobin Bell was supposed to be in the Ninth Star film. They had like they had an idea laid out in everything. And then Chris Rock called or however they met and they were like, oh, no, let's do this instead. And they just trusted him. They're like, oh, we got to drop all that for Chris Rock. And they just didn't even put Tobin Bell in the movie.  And you're just like, no, let's put you push you aside for the star power of Chris Rock. That's so shitty. That's like, yeah, that's like actually a bad thing to do. Like they get that a lot very disrespectful to the Ninth one. You should be thankful that the guy who's like the foundations of built with is still around to even be in it. It's like, yeah. And they didn't have that many years left.  Make a Chris Rock movie in 20 years if you want.  I'm kind of impressed. I'm amazed that Tobin Bell will even agree to be in these movies still. So if he's going to agree to be in it, you should put him in it. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. I know it's not the end of the series, but like what an anticlimactic end for this arc, you know? Well, so they were hoping to make more from this, right? Like I'm assuming Chris Rock. They were hoping this would be a gigantic success. Yeah, we'll get Spiral 2. This will continue the Spiral 2. Yeah, another book of Saw film or something. Yeah, another chapter. Like Jesus Christ. And the conventional Saw film next, right? Yeah. Well, so this is the thing. Saw 10 sounds like it could be way better than Jake Saw and Spiral. Yeah, these lost to being pretty lame. Horrific, I would say. I miss the days of Saw 6, I really do. I remember reading on Wikipedia that they were trying to do like a series, like a Netflix series. So I don't know if it's that or a film. I'm reading right now. A sequel film titled Saw X was confirmed to be in development by Twisted Pictures. Bausman stated that it was a premature announcement that surprised him and the film's producers. He said, just because we made Spiral doesn't mean Saw seizes to exist. Just because Spiral is here, that doesn't mean there won't be a Saw 9. He thinks it's a different thing and that they're... He's like, no, I didn't make a Saw movie. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not what this is. Even though they're clearly doing Saw X and they're calling it the 10th Saw movie. Yeah, by having a 10th Saw movie that canonizes Spiral as the 9th Saw movie, not as its own thing. He is so embarrassing.  It'd be a different thing, but it's like... I didn't make a Saw movie. No, you know what? No, he didn't. Whatever this is. What else could you even say? I have so little to say about this film. I just wanted to go away. It was so hard to pay attention to. He's a baby. Yeah, thoroughly unremarkable. Yeah. So boring. If you're given the reins to make a Saw movie, then it's not really that complex. Yeah, you have to make some characters who have a bad element of their personality or they're a criminal in some way or they've committed some moral crime. Then you have to put them in a trap that in some way is related to that crime that they've committed. And then you have to make it to where they can escape it. And that's it, really. That's all that's it. In interview footage, Darren Lynn Bowzman said, I'm not joking when I say this, this is real. In interview footage, Darren Lynn Bowzman says, when we wrote the script, we actually wrote all the traps last. We just wrote insert trap here. They wrote the entire script. And he says that as if that's not like a crazy thing to say. We just wrote insert trap here in the script. Like they don't matter.  And on top of that, there was apparently a trap, according to Darren Lynn Bowzman and other people that worked on it. There was one that was like too gory and they just removed. Which is weird. It's like, yeah.   That's why we're here. Was there a victim? And we didn't see that, no? Yeah, we want a soft film with less traps, less gore, less fun.   I want Hoffman and Tobin Bell. I really want Hoffman back. I want both of them back at the same time for no reason. Both of them too, because it was more entertaining. Hoffman was funny. And he had those characters. Now it's just lame. It's like it's taking itself so seriously. No. I guess all I think with this series is you had a concept that if you wanted to take it seriously and you had all of the talent directed towards achieving that, you could have made something that was actually really good. We never really got that, but then we started to get to a point where it was getting really fun. And this is like the worst of both worlds. You're taking it seriously, but what you're creating is not really that cool or interesting at all. Let's greenlit another soft film. We'll let Chris Rock, who is a comedian and has never made anything like this, decide what to do. And we'll also let it be directed by Darren Lynn Bausman, who now hates the franchise and wants to prove that he's more mature than the movies that he used to do. Yeah. Yeah, like it's a disaster. It really is. It's an absolute disaster. And it could have been prevented by just giving it to somebody who likes the franchise. Give it to Kevin Gruder again. So don't let me down, Kevin. Don't let me down for Psy-X. These two films, yeah. And if it's the same guy who made six and seven, yeah, like Saw-X could be cool. We've talked about it already, but I'd like to continue talking about it. Chris Rock gave one of the worst performances I've ever seen in this movie. He made the woman who played Jill Tuck look like. Oh, my God.  It's just like. Is it nearly as good as Lynn Dunlun?   And it's like, how did, where did you go, Chris Rock? What happened here? He was good in Fargo as well. I liked him in that. Yeah. It's a shame because I'm usually inclined to think that comedians will do a good job if you put them in a dramatic role. I don't know, a lot of the time I find it seems to work, but here it really didn't. I think he just had too much ego going into this or something. Very, very poor direction, if nothing else. Yeah. In this film, yeah, definitely. I mean, that was bad. What is there to say? Sam Jackson wasn't even good in this movie. He was barely at it. He was barely a part of it. Yeah, he probably only had to shoot for what, like one or two weeks. Days. I don't know how they got it. Days, perhaps, yeah, maybe. I would say this was a truly horrifying ending to Halloween. Yeah, I was gonna say, what do you have to say about the sore franchise as a whole? That was weird. Wow, how incredibly unsatisfying and disappointing. I'd say at its best, it's almost getting there. And I think that it would be neat to see a sore one someday that's like a really great film that takes it seriously and is also good. Imagine that. It's possible. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a complex formula. I'm happy with the Goof factor of the other ones. I do enjoy that a lot. I find the plot twist hilarious of the best, that's the peak sore that they've created of this formula. Continue the chronology, please. Make it more complicated. That is the correct thing to do. If we ever get anything close to six again, that would be a six. But a huge mistake was any director, actor, producer, writer, anyone looking at this series and being like, people think this is incredibly horrifying and absolutely serious. And we need to make new plot lines about twists and turns relating to all kinds of interpersonal complications that eventually lead to a big choice right at the end. Is it like trying to set it out as some kind of detective mystery?  Go away. Go away. And then of course, it's not even good. Like you could have made that good, but they know. This was the worst one, even worse than that last one. Easily. Yeah, I put this at the bottom. By far. Not even the worst one. It's not close, even a little bit. Yeah, this one's entertainment factor is actually like, it's a ball in the ocean. It's insane. I mean, if you look at it, Chris Rock's facial expression, so you can get a chuckle out of that, but that's it. If you're watching this with like eight, seven, six, you know, other people and you're mocking it with them. OK, yeah, but god damn. Imagine getting and buying tickets, getting in your car, driving to a theater, going through the theater bullshit and watching it and then having to drive back home for this. Yeah, imagine getting tricked into watching this in theater.  Yeah, what a beautiful journey, a beautiful log. This was crazy. Is there anything else that anyone wants to say before we say goodbye? I want no one said game over. No one said game over. Disappointment is a measurable and my day is ruined. We'll make Adam say game over to end the recording. OK, OK. The guy, the guy when he got away in the elevator, he said, instead of.  That was great. Cinema because the game isn't over. He has to keep on telling her up. Even though he somehow is. I don't know how he's making a building. Hello, Detective Banks. I want to play a game. How can you do that to the voice? He is a really bad voice. It was a horrible decision. OK, so if it was. If it was rookie doing it. Is that like a text to speech voice? Is that what that was? Oh, I think it is. It showed him editing audio files for a second. I don't know. It's I think they used Microsoft Kermit. Alrighty, game over. There you go. Game over. Can we get another flute? You got to do it in Jigsaw's voice and then you got to do it in the new Jigsaw voice. Oh, no, we'll do two different takes. Game over. All right. That one was nice. Game over. Game over. Game over. Game over, Detective. Look, I set the table here. You want to play a game? Game over. What did you bring me?


looking at demands and resources and if kids are to be challenged rather than threatened they need to feel they have the resources which I have to say when I'm going around you know to the sessions a lot of your sessions are about resources for teachers if teachers don't have resources then they'll feel threatened by UDL they'll feel threatened by inclusion they'll feel threatened by any of these things if they don't feel they have the resources they need to do it of course they'll feel threatened and that's the idea we need enough resources so they'll feel challenged so they go okay this is hard but I have resources and I could probably do it it's what we need to get and those resources can come in various kinds and I gave a couple examples but in particular one of the groups that I went to was talking about assessment and this is one of the things I left out that I wanted to get back to because it shows the problem of assessment that when assessment is in the same category which is an assessment is this and assessment people think they're measuring knowledge usually sometimes skills more knowledge than skills but they think they're measuring this they don't think they're measuring this they feel that there it's I forget what yours is called the Alberta yeah what do you call it PAT the PAT I heard today so the PAT I'm sure those people say we're not measuring affect that's not what we're doing we're measuring content did the kids learned what we want them to learn did they learn the skills or whatever but I'm telling you for sure they are measuring this they are putting an affective demand on the students and they're measuring it they just aren't aware they're measuring it yet but we will make them aware and so the kids whether they have the resources is do they have the knowledge yes do they have the skills yes do they have the affect of resources and I'll just give you some and these you can look these up these are big studies these are not little crappy studies these are ones that are from science magazine science magazine the journal science which is the top scientific journal in the U.S. and you have to really have good science to get into science and here's what they did they gave they gave students high stakes tests of the kind that you're familiar with and they were interested in how much affect makes a difference so they were interested in particularly minority students like you have minority students here and they want to know how psychological threat remember we've been talking about threat this morning mediates performance in chronically evaluated real-world environments so they're going to look at minority students who feel under threat when they enter this testing situation because they represent a group which is thought to not do well and there's a lot of literature about this the threat that individuals of minorities feel like oh my god I'm not well-designed and my whole culture group is not well-designed for this test we don't do that we don't do well so we expect that the risk of confirming a negative stereotype that is first nation for example a negative stereotype aimed at one's group could undermine academic performance in minority students by elevating their level of psychological threat exactly what I talked about we could measure it and say they're under threat more threat we tested whether such psychological threat could be lessened by having students reaffirmed their sense of personal adequacy or self-integrity now this is the astonishing thing and that's why I wanted to say this is in the most difficult journal to get into the intervention was a brief in-class writing assignment significantly improved the grades of African-American students and reduced the racial achievement gap by 40% it's an astonishing result now what I want to be clear is that they didn't give them more knowledge didn't give them more skills they just gave them more affective resources to say your what is good about your cultural group write about that before you take the test that's all they did was 15 minutes write about what's good about your background culture get rid of that negative stress of the stereotype that you feel and in a 15-minute intervention scores changes that were 40% of the reduction in the achievement gap it's an astonishing finding and people went no that can't be true it's been replicated again and again so what does that say it says that that test 40% of the variance on that test is actually measuring the threat those kids are feeling that's what it's measuring we are measuring the fact that you don't feel good about yourself and that's 40% of the variance of that test's difference between those kids and other kids huge effect so if anybody says to you in your PAT is it PAT we are not measuring affect you say oh on the contrary you are measuring affect you're just not aware you're measuring it you are measuring it and by the way the people at the big testing companies in the US ETS and so on they are aware they're measuring it now and they're worried about it because people are saying oh it's just a test of affect or at least that's a big thing about it I sorry I didn't highlight this one yet I just want to get this out promoting interest in performance in high school science classes so they were interested in the same kind of thing what would be the way to improve performance of underachieving students in their science classes your first thing you think of is teach them get a good teacher about science teach them more science but in fact what they did was our results demonstrate they did the same kind of thing they worked only on the affect our results demonstrate encouraging students to make connections between science course material and their lives their personal lives promoted both interest and performance for students with low success expectancies they didn't find it made any difference to connect to your personal your personal interest for the high expectancy kids those kids did well in test matter what for the kids who are low achievement low success expectancy they found a big effect for connecting the science to their real lives here the effect of performance was particularly striking because students with low success expectancies improved nearly two-thirds of a letter grade in the relevant condition blog and what they conclude is that in then I just want to say that this is on the guidelines you looked at making things authentic and relevant is a huge effect two-thirds of a grade huge score improvements not teaching science only making it relevant for the low achievement students made the big book so when people say what are you doing about my test scores you should say one of the reasons I'm doing UDL is because I want to improve test scores and I get it that test scores are heavily influenced by affect so I am paying attention to that I am designing in a UDL fashion so that test scores will in fact be better because they'll be less measuring negative affect okay is everybody with me on that so that was great to come up so when people talk to you and say though we got improve those scores we got to teach that hardcore science you say no we need to do all three UDL principles we need to make sure that the test is not inaccurately measuring the students achievement because it's really measuring their negative affect that they're coming in under stress stereotype threat stress stress of it's not related to me at all I don't get why we're doing this those things are decreasing their scores is more like that girls and boys in science and math same kinds of things that they found that they can make huge changes in people's scores on those kinds of tests by changing the affect of part of the measurement


I spotted this in the science fiction section at the local library. It's obviously the inspiration for the movie, The Seven Faces of Dr. Lowe, although there's no mention of that fact anywhere in or on the book. This was a real surprise. I can't tell you how many times throughout the book my jaw dropped open at the author's mastery of language. I mean mastery. I don't recall ever reading such elegant and astonishingly beautiful passages of just amazing use of language. It's too bad he didn't write an actual story because this is not a novel. It reads more like a series of notes on an unfinished novel. And racist? Oh my God. There's so much racist language. But with Finney being so good with language, I have to assume that every choice he made is deliberate and this is satire of the times he lived in. And what little there is to this book is excellent satire.