People seem to have a lot of confusion about the difference between Western medicine, aka modern biomedicine, and traditional Chinese medicine in the way that they think about health and illness, and in the way that they treat a person who is currently ill. Well in this video I want to share what I think are three of the most obvious differences between the current biomedical thinking and Chinese medicine thinking and how it can really help you think about whether it's your own health symptoms or your own life. Hey it's Alex Hine, author of the book Master of the Day. Now I've included below the first link in the description is for a free PDF, five daily rituals that can possibly help you add 10 years to life with traditional Chinese medicine. You can check it out right there, the first link in the description. So the first thing here is that in traditional Chinese medicine practitioners treat according to patterns and not just individual symptoms. So when it comes to treating a pattern for example let's say a person has insomnia. Well in my understanding if you go to your physician there will probably be very few referrals to maybe getting a sleeping pill or an anti-anxiety medication or maybe an antidepressant, some kind of SSRI. But that doesn't necessarily deal with any of the underlying reason why you have a sleep problem. You know by comparison you know let's say for example you have someone who's going through a divorce, someone with digestive problems, someone who's anxiety or depressed, someone who's stressed. All of these things could cause insomnia. And yet if you're giving someone a sleeping pill how do we know what actually caused it and how do we fix it, really fix it. In traditional Chinese medicine there are dozens of reasons for insomnia. You know for example a common reason is people can have insomnia due to digestive problems. One of the most ancient sayings is that when the stomach isn't harmonious or at peace then the person can't sleep. And everyone's probably had the feeling of having indigestion after a huge meal and having god-awful sleep all night. So in Chinese medicine you always look for a pattern rather than oh they just can't sleep, oh they've constipation, oh they're just bleeding, right? Why? What's the pattern? Which means you look at other symptoms that build out a more cohesive diagnosis. So the second thing is that non-material or physiological changes come before structural changes. So modern biomedicine is obsessed with the physical form. It's obsessed with digital imaging and blood work because if it's not on that scan or if it's not in your blood work then it's not real, right? And yet tons of patients, tons, say they don't feel well, they feel off or something's wrong, they have a symptom but it doesn't show up on blood work and it doesn't show up on digital imaging. So what does that mean? Well I mean I think a lot of physicians would send the person to a shrink or put them on an antidepressant but in Chinese medicine those are key important symptoms that come before a serious diagnosis. So for example let's say you have someone who has ulcerative colitis, maybe they have blood in their stool, okay? Before that there is some point in time where before that there is a physiological change that was not showing up as blood in the stool and in traditional Chinese medicine you can not only perceive that through the diagnostic methods but you can treat it before it shows up as ulcerative colitis and blood in the stool. Now that's a huge asset for somebody who would eventually be in a very very possibly life-threatening position and you can treat it long before it gets to that stage or if it isn't that stage you're still treating the root which is the underlying physiological imbalance that produced these symptoms. You know a dramatic example is obviously a physical tumor but where does the physical tumor come from? Right? If we're obsessed with surgery we don't ever deal with why the cancer started in the first place and that's why there is a very high rate of cancer recurrence at the same time. So that did not fix why the cancer happened and in the same way we need to understand what is the root behind all of this? Behind the gallstone, behind the uterine bleeding, behind the bleeding from ulcerative colitis, behind the cancerous tumor. What is the physiological change? What is the imbalance in the body that allowed that to happen? That's what Chinese medicine emphasizes treating not on treating the tumor or the current gallstone or anything like that. The last thing is to treat the whole person. So if you have doubt you treat the whole person. If you have insomnia you treat the whole person.  What that means is that different people's constitutions and genetics express illness a little bit differently and predispose people to certain illnesses or certain manifestations of sickness differently but often in consistent patterns. And so you may have someone who's predisposed to gout-like issues, predisposed to diabetic-like issues, someone who's predisposed to insomnia, anxiety, depression, predisposed to whatever it is, digestive problems. And so you're always treating the Constitution of that human. You're not thinking okay oh we got bloating and constipation we're gonna treat bloating constipation. That may show up in many many many different patterns, many different patients and many different times of their lives. You have to treat the person which is a unique constitution with unique emotional patterns, unique life. You have to treat the human being in addition to treating the illness which is often you treat the person to treat the illness. So those are three preliminary differences between what people call Western medicine as really just modern biomedical thinking, biomedicine, and traditional Chinese medicine. And I think you can apply these things to get better results even if you are a conventional biomedical physician or a conventional practitioner of medicine. You can also apply these principles to your life to live a better life in the same vein. So I hope that helps. Again best way to stay in touch you can grab the free guide down there below the first link in the description. It's for five daily rituals that can possibly help you add 10 years to your life with traditional Chinese medicine. And then check out my last related videos on this exact topic right there and then right there.


Yes, I actually sat down just previous to the COVID with Sasha and we, we worked on it together to bring it up to date. Okay. Because really when, you know, things happen, you need your right and the thick of things as well. So I just want to make sure that you are well aware of that. Yes, I haven't received anything in the last couple of days, but I'm assuming it's the version that Sasha and I worked up from, working from last year. Yep. Yeah, no, I, she sent it along and it looks like it's all updated and everyone's from you to, to Sasha. So I just wanted to make sure that you had an opportunity to put your eyes on it. All right. Any other discussion, John, any comments from you? No. Paul, look good to me. Ray. It looks fine to me. Tell him. Callie, any questions, concerns? No, that looks good to me. Don, how about yourself? And there's a new eyes on it. Did you see anything that stood out? No, I mean, no, it looked pretty straight forward. Yeah. I'd move that we go ahead and adopt the local energy management plan as presented. Paul, it's back in. Any further discussion? All in favor, vote aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Thank you, Kelly. And all, so that's unanimous there. And all right. So now we have a discussion on the Dickerson Road. So I don't think Martin is on the line. But we are, we have, I guess, received all the permits that we need to do or need to get at this point. We are going to be going to the DRB post fix on this road. But I have spoken with David Speck. And that's the best way for us to get to this and get it before the road ends up in the river. We did receive a couple of different bids. We had Blow and Cody and then we had, I'll just raise firm, Dubois Construction. Part of it's not raised firm. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that. Anyways, Dubois Construction. And so Dubois was significantly less than Blow and Cody. I do have a contract for them and just wanted to let you know, wanted to sign that. And they're also striking the 15% by the May 1st penalty that was in there. So, you know, Ray will, unless the board has any issues, I will sign that off tonight or tomorrow morning. And you guys can, you know, do what you need to do. Yep. So I think our schedule is, we were hoping Wednesday, but I think it's going to be Thursday. So just this weather is going to join us a little curve here and the whole COVID thing. But it's going to be some latter part of this week that we'll start that project. Correct. And when I do, the day before, I'll definitely get hold of Don and Sasha and then you guys notice. Okay. Yeah, that'd be good. So I can get the folks on the road organized. Yep. Yep. And would you guys, would the team like me to contact that river ambulance or Stefan? Is that something you'd want to do or how do you want to handle that? Absolutely. I have a few contacts there. So I can just, I'll let them know. And I can also let the state police know if you'd like as well. That'd be good. Stefan, if we could do that. Absolutely. You should wait till we get the schedule. Like maybe after Ray gets in touch with me, I can get in touch with you, Stefan, and tell you what the schedule is because we're going to, it's going to be open tonight. Right. Right. Right. Right. That's the plan is to have access one lane access at night. All right.  Okay. That'll, that'll work good. If Martin C seed and that email, I will, I'll be able to get it from him and can call accordingly. Yeah, Martin will be right. And he's going to be in you because you guys, I think you're going to be doing a little bit of the tree work down our step on whether you know it or not. Oh boy. I think there's a little bit of work for you guys. Not a lot, but I think Martin did share that with me. That's correct. And so anyways, all right, so good that and we'll also step on if you want to remind Martin in the morning as well, there's some mailboxes that he's going to put up some temporary mailboxes for the people on the road. Yes. I will, I will mention that again in the morning. Right. So you want to get that the next day or two, again, depending on the, the timing of this, but the sooner the better, the way the less traffic, you know, the mailman doesn't have to go down there. So that would be nice. Absolutely. All right. You know what? And as long as we're talking about that, we're pretty well ahead on our agenda, we should talk a little bit about construction in the village, the sidewalks. We haven't voted on Dubois for Dickerson road yet. Correct. Thank you, John. That's why you're that motion that we hired Dubois construction for the Dickerson road project. All right, sir. Second. Kelly or. I'll take that. I'll second that. Donnie, thank you. Ray is going to abstain himself from this vote. It's all in favor of vote. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. We're meeting with green mount power. They're tentatively Thursday morning. I don't know, John. If you want to be part of that, we can let you know exactly what time. Okay. But I think it's tentatively set up for nine o'clock Thursday morning. Nine o'clock Thursday the. No, this Thursday. Okay. Yeah, they want to take a look at it. Okay. And looks like tree works will be doing the, the actual cutting of the tree for us. Oh, good. Yeah. And then the plan is to start the actual actual excavation by the fire station on the 18th. Okay. So we'll put that out on front porch form as well. And people know that thing is going to happen. I noticed there were some Du Bois trucks bringing material into the pit today. So, you know, things are starting to pick up a little bit. And but everyone in town should be well aware that there's going to be a considerable amount of movement. And we've. How about maybe maybe just a sign at the store at the post office little eight by 11 or something. I think that's a good idea. Sasha, that's something that you could put together and something substantial. We may have to order from Staples, but they can do things in half an hour. So it's, it's something that's not going to be, you know, damaged or water resistant or something like that. Okay. Or you may be able to do something. I mean, I don't know what you're doing. Yeah, we have a live. Yeah. So just something in something for both the, the office, I mean, the post office in the store. You should also put on, on that local contact for the project and. And who would you like me to put on there? Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. John, is that me or you? Yeah. Yeah. So why don't you put both put both John and my name on there with our cell phone numbers. Okay. And people can contact us. Okay. Or they can contact certainly anyone, but that there's a name on there.  We don't really care, but as long as if there's issues, we don't want to hear about it. Okay. Ray, anything else on the project real quick? Do you want to bring us up to date on or dates or, or any time that you want to do something formal as a presentation? Let's see. I was thinking that. Well, our next board meeting is the 18th, right? Yes. I don't know if you want to go in conjunction with, with the select board meeting. We can certainly, we could talk more, you know, if you want to talk about the project at the next board meeting. That would be fine. Or if you want to do something during the day. That's also fine. Whatever you guys think is necessary.  So that would be a good time. The people get to get familiar with us and then they could see the size of the equipment. And when we get out of the streets and start carrying up the sidewalk is when it's really going to be noticeable. And that's going to be, you know, take us at least a week over by the fire station to get that, that piece of work in. So. Well, maybe we could do it then the 18th. Now, I don't know. And this is something we'll need to look into. But what type of restrictions my thought is what I'd like to do is have our next meeting live. Probably have it at the town hall. And I think there's enough space in there so that it can be adequate social distancing. But again, depending on what, you know, the governor's orders are at that time, but I think we may see some restrictions that allow us to do that. That sounds good. And by that time, we should have a lot of the states in for where the new structures are curbing sidewalk, all that. You know, so people have a chance to look at what's ahead of them. And, you know, maybe we could do it. We could possibly start the meeting earlier. Have it at five or five or 30. That way, if there's construction going on, you know, you could maybe 530 they get done. Maybe some people there from your company that want to attend. And so maybe we could plan something like that. I think that's a good idea, Tom. Let's plan on it. So Monday the 18th at 530, tentatively, depending on, you know, what's happening with our, you know, our social distancing and governor's recommendations. You know, we'll start with kind of an open house, if you will, on the project, you know, maybe to get a few people coming in. Maybe we could order pizza or something like that. You know, trying to get an idea for what people might come and maybe that will bring some people and be a good thing. Depending on the, you know, the social thing and how that works, but something like that. I don't think we can do the food thing. Yeah, no, as I'm talking, I'm thinking the same thing, individual pieces, you know, that's not going to work. But we should probably, if we do, we're going to need to, we're going to need to have math. We're going to be probably still wearing that. There's no, you know. Oh, absolutely. I think that'll, I mean, I think that's going to be a norm, right? Yeah, unless, unless 10th comes to the meeting, but other than that. So, but, you know, we can talk offline on how we want to plan that. And, you know, Don, maybe you can help plan that as well. I know you're, you've got to, you know, certainly maybe, I don't know, maybe some extra time or just you've been involved in some of these things. So maybe you can help. Yeah, I can maybe help with that. Yep. And make sure we're compliant with all the things that are going around along us. Well, we have to be careful of how many people we get coming to the town hall, to the meeting floor. I'll be able to stay apart like that. But yeah. Yeah, well, that's, we're going to put your expertise to work and figure that out, Don, and how we, you know, whether we have a rotating system or what we do, but you're the, you know, innovative guy will let you come up with. Well, we'll see if we can pull that off. Yeah. All right. It's a fairly big space. And, and then we can, you know, work with Ray and raise people and maybe they'll have drawings or they'll have a couple of stations or something like that. I don't know how best to do this. But, you know, once you and Ray talk at some point. That's fine. All right. Yeah. I'll get, I'll double back with Ray and we'll see what we can come up with a little project review meeting. Sounds great. And keep John copied on all that stuff as well. If you don't mind. Thank you. Whatever happened to the, the town needing someone to represent the town or something. There was that hole before the meltdown. Is that going away? No, that is actually John. And that happened, Donnie, because we had to have someone on the select board that was not going to be paid. Otherwise, it had to go out to bid. And time prevented us from doing that. And so John, the last moment was volunteer. And so that's how that worked out. Oh, John will be doing it. Great. Oh, my guy. You've been involved with it from the start. So that's good. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's a good way to do it. So anyone and anyone would have been capable of doing it, but we got an email on a Friday that Chris needed someone and needed. Anyway, we had to start over and it had to be someone from the school select board that was not going to get. Yeah, so that happens. That's great. All right. Anything else on the sidewalk drainage? You got the email from David Heun with all the dates? Yes, everyone has seen that. Everybody's seen that? Yeah. Okay, good. The main thing is that the contractor has got to be the person to try to make those dates. But it sounds like you've got till September and what was it 18th? He should be fine, right? Well, there were earlier dates in the contracts that we were all hoping to hit, but based on being pushed back a month. But everyone, and we had a call, I don't know when was it, John, a week ago. I think we were all invited to join and had the pike crew and the bridge crew on as well. And really the timing is just to make sure that this project gets done before the paving gets done. Right. And everyone is fine with that. Everyone's got things pushed back and they didn't plan on doing the paving until later in the summer anyways here. Oh, there you go. Yes, I think there's going to be plenty of time for everyone to meet those deadlines. And so I agree with David to accept, certainly accept those dates and not pursue any action against the... Yes, I did. I reached out. Chris and I both reached out to David that everything was fine. Those dates. Yep. There was another email from... We have a new assistant project manager, another Nick. And you requested... We were wondering about using part of the park lot as the school is closed now. I know you gave us permission to use where the old school, our old town office was. But we were wondering about using part of the park lot near Grand Field's line to just store some pike rather than leaving it at the town where you tried to bring it up through town. Right, I think that's fine. There's certainly no one there at the school using it, so you might as well. That's what I thought. I just wanted to run it by you guys. That's a good spot for a staging area if you wait, you know. Absolutely. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I think anything else you need to do that makes sense, like that type of stuff, rather than drop it off at the pit. So, certainly allow a room for the church, there's church parking there. But keep it down towards the our end if you want. We can use some of that area a little bit more of that area if you need to. Okay. Thank you. I'm going to be at 6.30 now. So why don't we go ahead? Is there any other old business? I'd be interested while we're talking about the sidewalks and paving. So I saw some correspondence that I guess the bridge is going to start on the 21st of June. Is that what I read? That's when the road closure is. Yeah, I think that is done. That's when they're going to do that's when the bridge will close or because they're going to start earlier. I'm sorry if I can't remember exactly the letter that I read that came in. Does anybody have an update on that? I can't remember the last date, but if you saw it they were sending correspondence through. June sounds a little bit early to be honest with you, but... No, I think that's what they said at the meeting was going to be June, July and August, but they were going to close the bridge. Well no, originally it was just July and August, even originally. And then Tom, I believe on that phone call that you and I had, there were two dates that I have down here. June 29th, I thought the bridge was to the 29th. And actually I have down here 29th through August 1st. That seems like awfully quick, but... I don't have my thoughts with me, but I thought it was the 22nd through the end of like August 15th or something like that. Okay. Sasha, can we just get a letter on that like last week or something? Yes, but I don't have my computer right in front of me. I'm sorry. I'm looking... I'm going to look too. I can't remember, you know... All right, so say it's June 26th. What's on my mind? Yes. Well, one thing I would like to bring up or ask if we can somehow accomplish... Well, there was that meeting at the town hall, and forgive me if I don't remember the woman's name or was leading the old review there. And maybe you'll tell me I should get in touch with her, but I'm just kind of curious. There's a whole signage program. I mean, I didn't know if they were going to give us another update or what they're doing. And regarding that, I'd like to see if we could reach out to the Waitfield Select Board and have both our board and work with their board on how we can make that Tony Farm Road doesn't become like a super highway. Because not only for the residents that live on that road and now with what's going on with the coronavirus thing, all you need to do is go down that road and see tremendous amounts of people walking, biking, fishing, ticking ramps, you know, all kinds of stuff, you know. And how we can, you know, get people to respect that road and not go 40, 50 miles an hour. Like I was noticing we have a posted 35 mile an hour as you come down the top of the farm hill in the Morton says 35. Maybe we can make that 25, you know, for a while just to try to get people to drive slow. Anyways, that's what I wanted to say. All right, so first, one of the things with the signage and that was at our phone conference talked about really extensively and one of the things they're not doing is they're not pushing traffic towards Pony Farm. All the detours are on either 100, but they're not pushing any kind of traffic to Pony Farm. Realize that you know where the locals are going to take Pony Farm for sure. Absolutely, the locals will take that. So they're, again, they're bringing in signage. I think the only other thing is we will contact and the state police, again, they know of the bridge closure, but we'll remind them and we'll ask for, you know, step up patrols on that road. Yeah, I guess I know they're going to put up signs, but I was just wondering if somehow we could put up a sign that would appeal to people's, how do we say it, you know, sensibilities or something, or common sense. I mean, sure they can put up a sign saying speed limit 25 or, you know, something like that, but to get people to realize that there's dogs and people and bikes and walkers and, you know, to be aware, slow down. If you lived here, you wouldn't want that. Well, you know, I don't know what you know.  But anyways, I would, I would suggest that maybe the town talk to the state AOT guy and have the bridge contractor put up a message board on both sides of that road stating our concerns or stating local traffic or something like that. I think a message board, and I think the state was saying for that, pay the contractor to put up a message board with any message we want to put up on it. There you go. Great idea. There you go. So John, we can you can get with Chris Hunt on that because he works with the signage with those guys. Sure. Okay, and I actually just pulled up his email. Today, and it says that on the call with the representatives of the paving and bridge project last week, they all indicated their work wasn't likely to start until mid July. Right. So that was, that was the baby. That's the paving. Well, he said paving and bridge project. But so I don't know why I believe that the bridge right I thought it was like June, June 22. That's exactly what I thought, John. Okay. Well, John, why don't you reach back out to him tomorrow. In the meantime, the morning look at previous emails. And if not, John, why don't you reach out just to get another. Okay. That's the line from him. Hey, Stephanie here. It's just going on with that. I spoke to saying on the bridge contractor on Thursday, and they're waiting to hear back from the state, but they will be behind schedule because they can't get any of the skill or anything at this point. Okay, thanks. No problem. So anyway, yeah, John, so that would be good to get an updated idea from them and and also because there was a lot of questions going back and forth on the signage and who was going to be responsible for it. And whether pike was going to come in and lay out the early science because they were going to be later just make sure that was clarified. That was clarified. All right, so in. Are you guys going to do that way or are they doing yeah we're just going to the clarification is we're just going to go ahead and do the the signs the construction signs that are proposed for the sidewalk job. And then one pike if they're there, whatever they get there, maybe some modifications at that time, but we're right now we're just doing the signage per plan. All right. And Donnie, if you can, if you know what those reader boards are, if you can come up with some tear jerker that'll get people to slow down. Okay, yeah, I'll work on some of that. That'd be great. Yep. I understand. I totally understand what you're saying. And, you know, hopefully with something like that will make a difference. It would be nice if it would make a difference for sure. Right. All right. Anything else on the road, the signage road projects, bridge project, any other stuff. Well, so we're going to get an update when they're going to stop the bridge project. I mean, I might have maybe I didn't hear that because I was trying to find. Yeah, John's reaching out to get an updated schedule on all those projects. Great. Going to be a busy little town this summer, I guess. Real well big. Almost as busy as yesterday. What was going on yesterday? Was it pretty busy in town, John? It was Dick Butch's 80th birthday. We had a parade. We all met at the school, at the park a lot. There were the three fire trucks were involved. And many people is, I can't even wait. There were literally a hundred cars. Really? Yeah. It was unbelievable. We just had this long train of cars going up past Dick's house with signs and everything. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Maybe not a hundred, but I mean, at least 50. John, a hundred here.  That's good. Well, you know, certainly the board wishes Dr. Dick a happy 80th. I hope you guys had a good time there. So yeah, so it probably won't be as busy as that, but it'll be a busy village. You know, and hopefully, I know Du Bois has put forth their plan for social distancing and adhering to all the recommendations put forth. So Ray, tell your company, thank you. And we'll certainly expect that from the other contractors as well. Thank you. Yep. All right. So now why don't we go ahead and discuss the word at some point having Ray Dagolin for discussion on the MOU, but just wanted to put it out there. Make sure everyone had a look at it and see if there are things that we should look into prior to speaking with Ray. Donnie, have you had an opportunity to read through that? I was reading it the other day. You know, yeah, I've been, yeah. So, you know, I think it's good. I think always from someone that hasn't seen it, it's good to get fresh eyes on something. Ray, with what we're doing, all of the maintenance and stuff, if there's anything else that you think, I mean, I think it's pretty well covered here. I do want to speak to Martin to make sure that we're covered with the 12,000, but I think that's still in the range as well. The only thing that comes to mind, Tom, was that we talked at one time about putting some cameras up out there and whether that would fall into this or something else, I'm not sure. Well, you know what, there is safety and security. There's one of the items. So, you know what, I think that would be something that would probably benefit both of us. So I think that's something that would be a good idea to bring up to see what Ray's idea. I think they have one, or they used to have one in the school that did the entrance way. But I would think something more in the parking lots and maybe out towards the back might be beneficial for all. Out towards the back or towards the town office? Well, towards the town office, but also towards the back of the school. And then what we had with what we wanted to do with the town office, I think we could do something with them to make it palatable for both of us. So this is going to get done in conjunction with the sidewalks and the paving and everything? No, I don't think so. As far as what, Don, security? No, not the security, the repair of the parking lots and the roads going in there and all that. Is that what this is all about? This is general maintenance. There is long-term maintenance and short-term. So no, we're not doing any... Following on the rec fields and so on. So the short-term maintenance and the road surfacing, snow and ice removal, it's on the second page of that. Yeah, I see road service maintenance, grading. But there's no plan to like fix it up. It's just sort of grade it and keep on moving. So we're not repating that or anything, right? Not at this juncture. Right now we're working on a grant. In fact, we have a grant for the parking lot that we're actually doing the... In fact, we chose the engineering firm to come up with a plan. So there is long-term plans, yes. It's on the radar. Did you want to discuss that more now, Tom?  Okay. Well, first of all, in our remote meeting of the Central Carolina Regional Planning Commission the other night, we... Actually, we're going to be funded. It looks like Pam was able to get a grant to complete the funding so that more town won't have to pay for anything. So before, the grant was just for the 30%. Well, it looks like we're going to get funds that will cover up to the 100%. Wow. Yeah. Free money. So that was what... Let's see, we chose... Oh, actually, no, it was not that meeting. I'm sorry. I got so many remote meetings. I also had one with Ridge River. There's that meeting. And so we're looking at $31,000, I believe, is... Yes. Yeah, okay. So that's going to be covered. Great. And so Tom, that's a plan for drainage within that whole parking lot. Right. The drainage and landscaping and... Yeah, I mean, it's really the whole project. The only thing I was concerned about in that whole thing is it mentioned paving. And I thought we had decided to just pave... not to pave the whole parking lot. Wasn't that correct? Well, not to pave the whole parking lot until we had all the drainage put in. Right, but I... Okay, all right. So I didn't know if the final project, if that had been decided that it was going to be totally paved or stay matte or whatever. Yeah, no, I don't think... I don't recall saying just stay matte, but... I mean, these things have been changed around so many times. Yeah. Well, when they... Now that you... I remember now it was... We didn't want to do any paving until we had all the piping and everything in. Right. That was for sure. Right. But I'd have to go back and see, or Cheryl probably would be best at that to... I think it's weird just holding off the paving just until we get that stuff taken care of because it was foolish to put it in and tear it up. Right. That was... That's for sure. And this will obviously... All the drainage here will help the matte river because we'll make our drainage better, right? Yeah, and that was the whole idea with that is the rivers and rivers and it kind of goes in conjunction with the work that we're doing out there now. Yeah, the farm water management plan, all the drains will be equipped with filtration devices and everything so that it'll filter out stuff so it doesn't go pouring into the river. Right. And there's a sediment pond, John, because we're even going to have education. Right. We're talking about building the education around that so people understand what's going on there. Yeah, it's quite a neat project. I think you'll like it. Yeah, I know. It sounds good. It's been worked on, actually, for several years and then funding got dried up and such but it seems like things are on the way now. Anything else on that, John? No, I guess that's it. Looks good to know that we get full funding on that, though. Yeah, that was very pleased. And so that'll be good to let Ray and those guys know because I know they were in for half of that, I guess the 70% or whatever it was that was left. Right, right. Again, everyone take a look through this. If there's something that comes to mind that needs to be brought up, we will make sure to do that. We'll speak with... Pardon me, now I'm losing my mind here. Anyways, move on. Let's go ahead and discuss any other reports, communications. Sasha? I have two things, not really report and communications but Sherilyn brought it to my attention that Michael Brown was actually elected and didn't need to be appointed. She just wanted on record in the minutes and I also have... So was that on the write-in so he had enough write-in? Yes. Oh, that's good. The other thing is I got the Duxbury contract back so it'll need everybody's signature. So we'll work on getting that done over the next couple of weeks, hopefully. All right. Is that at the office now? Nope, but it will be. All right. How are things... As far as the office goes, Sasha, maybe you could give people a little update on what you're doing and how are things working out? Things are going pretty good. Sherilyn and I are working pretty good together, getting the mail every couple of days and keeping it in a bag until we think it's safe to open and Ray has been great through all of this, getting the warrant signed. Things are going good. What do we have at the office for cleaners, that type of stuff? Do we have gloves? Do we have masks? Anything like that? I got masks on order. I ordered five boxes. That's 250 of them. We should have them this week. And all the other stuff is just on back order. Okay. So you're both still working at home, right? Yes. Sherilyn is... Or it does have the office open on Fridays. It started last Friday, and she's in there by appointment only. Right. I mean, I totally get it, and I agree that... I agree, but I'm just curious. Didn't the governor... He did, while he's opening up the spickets, say that, you know, municipal offices open back up. I mean, I was surprised to read that, but that he made that as his last... One of his last opening spickets, but I don't understand how that could be really based on, you know, conversations we've all had. The restriction is that there can only be two people in the office at a time, and they have to be 60 to part. So that's why she just... Appointments only. Ray, did you have a comment? No, I just coughed. So, Don, I think as we move forward, certainly the governor can make those recommendations, and we can be open, so we certainly have the right to be open, and now we need to do it with care and making sure that we have all that safety equipment there. I agree, yeah. That we can figure out a protocol, and I know Cheryl Lynn's been working on that, and Sasha, if you could, you know, continue to work with her and, you know, kind of let's, you know, let's work on a transition plan to, you know, because we will have to eventually get back to the office, and I know things will probably never be the same. You know, we may need to come up with some plexiglass things for the office. I know everywhere I go now there seems to be some kind of a plexiglass window, so you guys may need that as well. Okay. I don't know if you've thought about that, but... Definitely going to be a whole new world, that's for sure. Yeah, it really is. And I mean, I know right now Cheryl Lynn has set up the conference room, the whole conference room into, she's turned the table length-wise and then put the search computer in there so people can do their searches in there. People can't actually go into the vault or use the anything paper because those deeds and such can't be everything, which is great, everything is online, that they can come in and... Right. So just in the line of reports communication, communications announcements, and I'll start with you, Callie, is there anything that you want to share with us or you've done over the last week? No. Donnie, how about yourself? As far... No. Just in general... What? Just in general, it doesn't need to be, you don't know if you've... In general, town-wise, I've been working with Mike DeMoscis and I've rallied a few other people and we've been doing a little green-up on 100B. All right. And so because we're feeling that when May 30th comes, you're not going to be able to see this stuff because it's going to be... So it's almost getting to... You know, it's growing up pretty fast now. Are there any... Are there bags available or what's... How's that working? Yes, there are bags available for sure. Mike has them. I have a few as well. And... Yeah, so that's been one thing. And I've noticed there's been other people out. There's been people going out and picking up. So I encourage everybody who's on this call to don't hesitate to a little area because it's going to get harder when everything starts growing up. All right. I think that's good advice. John? Yes. In lieu of the annual Arbor Day conference, they've held... They're holding several webinars and I attended the first one which is on town forest management. And, you know, there's lots more stuff.  And once again, as I brought up before, the recommendation is to have a team approach, a committee approach, and also, you know, whenever is possible to sponsor some type of a town meeting or forum or whatever so that people can voice their opinions. After all, it is a town forest, so everybody should have some say, or at least heard. Or at least learn about it. Pardon me? Or at least learn about it. Yeah, exactly. There are lots of people in town who don't even really know about it, you know, and what they could do, you know, what's available to them. Right, exactly. Yeah. And then, of course, you know, that site, you know, we can take a look at logging as well. And then I was also wondering about the site on Mortown Mountain Road. And I don't know whether the Wreck Committee has... I mean, I know they know about it, and they're planning on anything there, but certainly that area, I think we really do need to wait before we do anything to really, you know, let the town know about it and talk more with the town about it. So, I mean, that's my feeling. I agree. I think we certainly, it would be good to do something on what we have going on in the village and the town forest there, but also get our ducks in a row on the Mortown Mountain Parcel and have a presentation on that at the same time, again sometime this fall, so that people realize that land's all available for people to use. Right. And these are the uses or things you can't do, which I guess there's not a lot of restrictions on them. Yeah, okay, sounds good. All right. Ray, how about yourself? I'm just wondering, Tom, and this could be a little early for this, but has anybody thought about more at Fest and whether we could be thinking about canceling it? Yeah, well, I don't, there's really nothing been going on with more at Fest. I would say just as this corner, the corona started, was time when we had to make some decisions on it, but we really kind of did, and we didn't put any money into the budget for it because there's no appetite for anyone out there to raise the money. It didn't seem, you know, Katrina was willing to chair it or run it, but she didn't want to do any of the fundraising and my wife was involved with it, too. She didn't want to spend all that time, and I understand that means a lot of work and just a few people were doing it. At this point, Ray, I don't think we have, there's nothing planned. Okay. But I think, you know, maybe, what we've gone through and, you know, there may be a time when we do want to have some kind of a celebration here in town. Maybe not this fall, but sometime soon. Yeah, I would think that, you know, next spring or early summer that we have some sort of celebration or overcoming COVID. Yeah, we'll come in that, you know, we'll have, you know, the sidewalks, right, you know, new pavement in town, and things will hopefully start to settle down a little bit so maybe we can do something next spring or early summer. Yeah, well, I think that'd be a great celebration. Yeah, and, you know, I think the fireworks and all that, so it's a great, great thing. So yeah, and I think, you know, who knows what's going to happen with things this fall. So I think, yeah, next summer would be a good time to do something like that. Yep. All right. Also, I don't know if you've kept up with the, you know, the information that comes out from Mark Bosmer with the COVID-19 update, but we have had cases in Moretown. We're under the one to five cases, so I'm not sure how many, but we have had at least one case. Yeah, it's out there, so well. I wasn't aware of that. Yeah, it's a map that just came out on Friday that the original map they had, they had it at zero to five, and so you couldn't really tell, you know, those towns that were in the zero to five, but they changed the new map as a zero with several towns like Berlin, for example, not one case, whereas Moretown, Watesfield, Warren, and Granville, right down the line there, all have one to five cases. Mason Duxbury, Mason Duxbury haven't had any. Yeah, well, again, everyone make sure you're careful out there. It really does not discriminate and can get any of us. So yeah, so I think our social gatherings next time will probably be a good idea, hopefully. So we're going to have to really weigh out, how are we going to weigh out whether we have this on at the town hall? When will we pull the trigger on that to decide if we do it or not? Well, if it's going to be the 18th, today's the fourth, I would say within a week, right? I mean, you know, I mean, if things haven't really changed, if they're still the same a week from now, I can't see that we would be doing it, you know? Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't know, just seeing what I'm reading, but I don't know how we make that call. We are going to get together quickly for a call next Monday, even though it's not a meeting, and decide whether we should have an open meeting. I don't know if we have to do it over the phone. We can see what the governor says this week, and you know, Sasha can take a poll or whatever. You know, myself, as long as we have separation in the meeting, I'm good with it. I'm much rather happy to have a meeting in person, but that's me. All right, well, let's go through this week. Let's see how things, and what we're hearing, and yeah, I don't know about that when you really, when I look at the date from two weeks from now, will you be able to have anything with any kind of, we need to have some updates on the construction. So maybe it's, this is where we can, Donnie and you and I can even talk is, I mean, we have our meeting live, have some two boys, people there, but then have everything else just video. Yeah, let's think about that, so that we can get the people in the village involved with it, because there's going to be, you know, there's going to be just so much going on, the more that we can get people to understand what's going on, the communication. Yeah, and we'll have to figure out the best way to do that. So let's, yeah, let's think about that in the next, and you and I should talk about that. Okay. Many on how we can do that. I think from the Du Bois and I think we'll probably come up with a handout for all the residents in the village, a general handout with rough schedule dates, and then we'll update those dates on a weekly basis, but I think we'll have a handout available, and we'll put them out to all the, all the houses in the village of what our schedule is and contact information and things like that. Okay. We'll probably do that next week. Right. So we'll, you know, take that into consideration as well when we're planning this or trying to figure out how best to communicate this. But the idea is to do something on the 18th or, you know, whether it's a video or some kind of a message that gets more of the information that these people need. All right. Thank you for tonight. Maybe for tonight's day, the names we gather with the names outside. Like you said, the old town officer at the gazebo or some people could spread out of that, I guess. Yeah. You don't have to be inside. There may be an opportunity there. So you're right. Yeah, I agree. I think, I think outside is better. I mean, after all, you know, what Phil has done is pretty much for construction is really outdoors. Everything seems to be outdoors. So in terms of, you know, going back. So I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. All right. All right. Well, we'll, we'll try to figure that out. Then we'll get a plan within a week or so within a week. What we're going to do to everyone. Is that good? Yep. We have minutes that need to be approved. Thank you. Motion to approve the minutes of April 20th. As presented. All right. Thank you, John. Any second? Second. Thank you, Kelly. All in favor of what I. All right. All right. All right. All right. Very good. Is there any other old business that anyone wanted to bring up? Hearing none. Any new business? Actually, either old or no. We had the service officer down here and then also first constable. You know, we really should have a first constable. So Sasha, is that something that you could put on front porch? Front porch forum? The advertising? Yes, I can. I did have one. Back after. I could reach out to that. They're actually all interested. Yeah. Why don't you do that? Okay. Unless John, do you know anyone that had any interest? Me? No. You don't have any interest. Anyone on the board have any interest to be the first constable? Don? I don't know. I'd have to figure out what the first constable will do. Well, Sasha, you know, I don't know. I don't know what the first constable will do. Well, Sasha, if you get a chance, could you send Donny a description of what they're responsible for? Yes. There's not a lot of stuff, but there's a few things that you could help coordinate with. You've got to get a big white hat. Yeah, you need a hat. Yeah. Okay. Can we get over on Pawnee's Pony Farm Road? No. But you can stand at the end, back them down and make sure they don't use it if they don't live there. Yeah, okay. I mean, on the old business, can we get out there at some point during this tax discussion? I know what's in the meeting notes and what Cheryl Lynch told us that some people can pay their taxes, you know, if they want it at a time. But I'm not sure it's really something that people know about or maybe there's a way that can be an incentive or something, but just to have more of a brainstorming on it. And I don't know if that would involve maybe and maybe even Jason, you know, who needs quite a number style, right? Well, we can let everyone know they can pay their taxes early. Unfortunately, there's no incentives because that's something that needs to be voted on by the town and we vote every year on penalties, if you will. But you know what, let's discuss it. I mean, we're not going to come out of this in one year. We're going to be over, you know, but maybe to discuss it so that we could bring it up to talk to people and tell, maybe there is some, like if you paid early, you'd get the 1% rate on what you're paying and then someone wouldn't think they need to keep the money because they're going to earn 1%, you know. Well, you know what? Why don't we, and this would involve Jason, we could ask the finance committee to come up with a proposal for that, Don, for the count meeting. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. And maybe they could come up with an equation that says, you know, just going to say, all right, if we get people to pay by August 1st, this is going to save us so much so we could give a discount of this much. And we're going to earn the interest on that money too when it comes in as well. Right. Well, that's part of their whole equation. I'm hoping they would consider. So, John, is that something that you can bring to the finance committee? Yeah. I don't know. You know, we had had a meeting, supposedly scheduled, but then, you know, that's back changed. So let me get in touch with Becky and say we certainly, there has been discussion of doing a remote meeting. So let me get this on that. So if you guys need to use the town conference service, just let Sasha know and she can give you the particulars on how to use it. But, yeah, just get together. And I know because you need to also discuss paying for the excavator, whether we should be looking at a loan on that. And certainly with the rates now, we might consider that. Right. Right. As opposed to our own money. And also if there's some type of incentive, we could, you know, buy monthly starting in, you know, the end of July, the end of August or whatever.  And again, you guys using all the information, you know, as far as what we're borrowing now, what we're interested in, what we're paying, and what we might get interested on this money if we should happen to get it. Right. Okay. I'm sure you'll consider it. And then we can also, you know, and again, Don, I'm happy to get anyone else in on these discussions. Yeah, just something to brain show them about. That's all. So we can put it on, probably not the next agenda because there's going to be a lot with the construction going on, but the one after that I think would be appropriate. Although I think the legislature just passed something that needs to be signed, but as far as penalties are not administering penalties. So that might give us an opportunity to reach out to everyone in town and let them know that there are kind of different rules, but this is what we can do in the meantime is paying really can help alleviate some of the issues. I would like to reach out to people and ask them to pay their taxes earlier, but when you consider what's happening right now, I don't think anyone wants to see an email from anyone or a front porch.   Yeah. So I mean, this might not be something that happens this year, but I mean, even next year, some, you know, looking to the future, you know, there might be some way. That's what the finance committee and their recommendation. That would be something that we would put on the ballot for next year. But like you said, it's going to start somewhere. Yeah. Any other old business or new discussion anyone else? All right. Well, thank you, everyone. I hope everyone's well. Stay safe. I'm going to make a motion to adjourn. It's all moved. Thank you, John. All in favor of aye. Aye. Aye. Thank you, everyone, for your patience and hard work tonight. Thank you. Okay. Good night. Okay. Good night. Good night.