taff to bring something for administrative review based on a pattern of complaints only, which I believe more accurately captures the direction of the board from the June 16th hearing. You're okay. I have a number of questions about the ordinance. Okay, you want to do it now? Yeah, sure. Okay, go ahead. Thank you for the presentation. I'm still trying to assimilate this new section. So I may come back at the end of after other questions with additional remarks. I first wanted to talk about the questions of number of permits and percentages. So I was surprised when we, because we talked about dropping the percentages because my interest was not creating any disagreement about interpretation about percentages and instead have a clear specific number. So it was a surprise to me that both a number was in there and the percentages. I'll probably ask that to be taken out. But the related question was, when I look at the 259 permits in the Loda, is that just homes and does not include hosted rentals? That's correct. That's vacation rental permits. Yeah. So to me, that it sort of gives a false picture of how many there is. Do you know how many hosted permits there are? In the Loda, as I recall, there are 40. And they are the existing number of hosted rentals and we don't have, I think when we were currently drafting a package of hosted rental amendments now, and we felt that maybe a way to deal with capping the hosted rentals was to still maintain an overall cap for the designated area to account for the hosted rentals combined with the vacation permits, the numerical cap. But it is one way we can handle that is to have a numerical cap for hosted rental permits as well in the designated areas. Yeah, I mean, I think this 12% number is a false number, right, the number of places in the number of properties that have guest services is higher than 12%. And that's why having clear numbers to me makes a lot more sense. I'll come back to that at the end. The question of the block map, the idea that we should have less interpretation of what constitutes so many on a block by having a block map makes some sense to me. But two questions I have, one is we're not gonna see the block map until August 4th, which is slightly worrisome. But then there's also language in here about, it's in 1310-2-2, which is the planning director or designee has discretion to adjust the block map upon making the following findings. So I thought that the reason we were having the block map is so we could have a better definition and we wouldn't be leaving it up to interpretation. And I'm a little worried about approving a map or approving the concept of a map that I haven't seen along with discretion to change that map that I haven't seen. I don't know whether that's a good idea or a bad idea, not having seen the map, I'm less inclined to support that kind of interpretation because I think it's just worries me. If we're gonna have a block map, I think we're gonna take out the question of interpretation. I thought that was our goal. Yes, that is true. That is the goal and the black maps have been created. They were going to be part of the August 4th package, a reference to those maps that are on a GIS layer. The reason why we included the ability for someone to request a map adjustment is because we have such incongruous blocks in the designated areas that was very challenging to map them and we wanted to provide a property owner the opportunity to have us take another look at the map on a case by case basis. Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how people in the neighborhood have some assurances about what's actually gonna happen or not, right? And so I thought we were trying to reduce that question by having the block map and then this additional provision seems to run counter to that. And so I'm uncomfortable with that language about giving the discretion. The question about complaints, I appreciate the efforts that staff has made to create a system that can actually effectively deal with complaints because I'm not sure that right now we do it as well. And between what you just shared with us, which is section L and section E, which is about local contact person, in section E it has to be verified by County Code of Enforcement, but there's nothing in section L that says anything about verification. So I'm trying to get a sense as to what is, what's verified, what's not verified, what do you have to, if I'm giving, trying to give a direction to a county resident who's trying to figure out how to deal with a problem, this is the part where it's hard for the interpretation here where it says a verified complaint, but then in our section about violation doesn't say anything about verified. So I can imagine when a local contact person, if I call my cell phone at 1130 at night and then at 1230 at night I call again, I could say, look, documentation, that should be good enough. I'm not sure if that's verified, however. Right, so this, the verified section in section E is just one section where we make crystal clear in the code that failure to respond within 60 minutes does constitute a verified code compliance issue and may, and we still have the provision that two verified complaints will compel staff to bring something up for consideration of revocation. But in addition to that, we now have the ability for a neighbor to let us know that, hey, I called, they didn't answer, it doesn't need to be verified. That would go into the pattern of complaints section that we have now where it doesn't need to be verified if neighbors now bring to our attention that someone hasn't been operating in accordance with regulations. We can actually bring them up for administrative review based on a complaint. I like that, I think it's confusing, however, about the question of when we put this language in there. I think if we're gonna have this language, we should have some kind of policy document that's clear about how we're gonna deal with these issues. And that would be nice to review at the board, or at least as an informational item. So we're all clear on what the guidance is for the staff. So we can give clear directions and we can manage expectations for people in the community. I think right now it's slightly confusing. Are we gonna be able to work this out now, or would you like to put it off till August for the first reading? Chair, I'm just trying to ask questions about this. We just got something, at least I got something important. So I'm just going through the elements of the ordinance that are there that's important. Okay, that can be cleared up now. I'm hoping so. Okay. You can call me for an odd give clear direction when the time comes for a motion. But there are a couple other places. There's a number of different section here about signs, local contact person, posting of rules, noise, et cetera. There's nothing in each section that says failure to post signs could result in possible revocation. Do we feel like Section L captures that? I mean, these are the complaints I hear that I couldn't reach somebody when I called that I didn't know who to call because there wasn't a signage up, but maybe the number on the app was incorrect. You know, these are, when you're being woken up at midnight or whatever it is, those are, that's a real problem, right? And I'm wondering whether we have strong enough language in this to know, maybe Council wants to weigh in, because I could see adding a sentence to each of those to make sure that everybody knows that your permit could be revoked if you don't keep the information updated. So Supervisor, I'm looking at the language in L that's been added and the sentences that are important to me for enforcement purposes are the one that says violation of the requirements to obtain a vacation rental permit, may be grounds for denial of a new vacation rental permit application. And the second one says, other violations of the county code may be grounds for administrative review of an existing vacation rental permit for denial of a renewal application and for revocation of an existing vacation rental permit after consideration at a noticed public hearing. That sentence right there, I believe gives us all we need to take action with due process against someone who has engaged in violations of the county code. Yeah, I mean, this is, I'm less concerned about the ones that are property manager, that they seem to be generally well run, but we do have problem houses. And because of our lax enforcement, it's sort of gotten worse. And I just want to make sure that we have the language in there that we're able to deal with the issue effectively. Cause I don't want to come back and say, well, you didn't put that in the ordinance. There may be a way for us to simplify the language supervisor to so that those sentences that I read right there don't get lost in the midst of some of the other language. And maybe planning could work with our office to address that, if that remains a concern for you. Yeah, I just want the last, that may be a good idea because there is the last thing that I would like, I've heard a lot from constituents about this and the concern was just how these are overtaking neighborhoods. And when you look at these numbers, the Salza is obviously a lot bigger area and has the same number of permits, but the Lota is a very compact, dense area. And it was negotiated solution 10 years ago to have this 15%. I would argue we're probably at 15% or close to it with those hosted rentals, which is much greater than any of the other areas. And so what I'd like to do is reduce the number of the total vacation rental permits by 15%. So that number goes from 259 to 220. That we strike the language about percentages because I think that that's a false number. And we wouldn't exclude, people who have permits, we wouldn't go out and find a number of people to take permits away. But when it came time for renewal, if we were at that, if we were above 220, we would not allow renewals until we could get to 220. Okay, that's a change. I think as it's currently drafted in the ordinance, renewals are not affected by the permit cap. Then just new, just new. It's just affects new. And we were at 259 when we were here in January. So we included 259, the 12% again reflects the current, the 259 cap in addition to the current number of hosted rentals that comes to 12% in the LODA. We could look at capping the number of hosted rentals to an numerical cap in the designated areas. We're just looking for a way to reconcile those two. Yeah, I'd like one clear cap. Okay. That's really what it comes down to. Okay. That's good to know since we are, I think we're just finalizing the hosted rental permit amendments. I did want to just, if I may go back quickly to the violation section because I would like to make changes to this section per your direction. But I think the section's one that we've grappled with quite a bit and it would be nice to make sure that on the record we have the second piece of what Jason was just reading in the amended section. If I may, it says a pattern of complaints. So this is some new language, a pattern of complaints such as operating the vacation rental while under emergency orders that prohibit such operation evidence that the rental is being misadvertised and or reports that the local contact person was non responsive on one or more occasion or complaints or evidence, complaints or evidence of violations of any other provisions of the county code may also result in a permit being subject to administrative review, which is a level four permit process, including neighboring neighbor notice, planning staff consideration, additional amended conditions of approval and possible revocation if we find that those complaints were egregious. So you're reading in changes that are different from the changes that you was out this morning and different than what was in the past. This is what we sent out this morning. That is what I just handed out, but I just wanted to make sure since you didn't have a chance to read that, that I brought it to your attention. And just for clarity sake, I didn't actually mean renewals. Renewals have traditionally not been counted towards increasing the caps of new permits. Yeah, it's, I look forward to the conversation with my colleagues about this. I'm trying to figure out this violation section. Okay, thank you. I don't have a clear sense about it yet, but maybe why other talk, I can look at this and get a better sense. I'm done. I can open up the others. Okay, the other supervisors, supervisor friend. Thank you, chair. And I think it was straight for the presentation and also for all of your work on the amendments between last meeting and this meeting. I think that the new violation section language does reflect the board's direction from the last meeting, which was to make it broad in the capability for the county to be able to enforce on issues associated with violations of the county code. And I think that the language that you have proposed meets that need. It's also, I support supervisor Leopold's efforts within his own district to reduce the numbers. As you may remember, this board was divided originally on the hosted rental number component, but I'm glad to see that the board is becoming more united on the fact of a reduction of the overall numbers of both vacation rental and hosted rentals. I think having a clear top number would be very easy for everybody to enforce. And I think that would be important. So I am supportive of what supervisor Leopold's saying. I do think there was maybe one element of confusion based on the back and forth. I wanna be sure is clear. The question was raised about whether this was a change for existing rentals at least within supervisor Leopold's district. The way I was interpreting what he was looking for was that there would be a 15% reduction, meaning that as things are potentially revoked or not renewed, new ones would not be able to come online until that 15% number was met. This is not, this would not impact anybody that has a permit in good standing is my understanding. And that isn't the intention of the board to impact anybody that has a current permit in good standing. But as there is an evolution over time, maybe somebody's not interested in maintaining a permit or maybe they lose the permit for valid reasons that there wouldn't be new ones coming online. So supervisor Leopold, I just wanna make sure that that was your intention. Cause it seemed that maybe it was a little bit confusing to planning staff. Bruce. He's trying to figure out. You gotta turn the mic on. I couldn't hear what you were saying, but I just like to clarify, I'm curious about the criteria to deny standard permit renewal without a history of complaints. And I appreciate supervisor Leopold's questions and as well as supervisor friends because this is where these rentals are concentrated, but I'm just curious about, and maybe that'll be answered in the process about the criteria to deny a standard permit renewal without a history of complaints on that property. As for misstating, when I spoke, we're only talking about new vacation rentals, not renewals. So if someone has had no history of complaints and it comes time to renew, they would be allowed to renew their... Okay. Thank you. Hi, this is Brian Cootkey. So we didn't hear the answer to Zach Friend's question about the overall cap and the question of whether existing rentals count towards that cap or not. You mean existing home rentals and hosted rentals? Yes. You wanna say something? Yes, yes, the percentage cap captures the numerical cap that is in the revised ordinance, the 259, 241 and three. And takes into account the current number of hosted rental permits that we have issued in these designated areas. That's how we get to the 12% cap, the 3.9% cap and the 3.3% cap. So I just took the numerical caps as directed by the board on June 16th, and I looked at how many hosted rentals and I arrived at that percentage. We could easily strike the percentage cap because this is really only dealing with the vacation rental permits and we could keep the 259, 241 and three as directed by the board previously. And then in the hosted rental ordinance that we're working on now, we could include a numerical cap for hosted rentals. So we would have a numerical cap for vacation rentals and a numerical cap for hosted rentals. That's one, I think, very clear way of dealing with this question. Okay. Chair, this is Supervisor Friend. I just had one other point of clarification. There was a community member on Beach Drive that raised an issue in the previous item that really was more relevant for this item regarding the parking components. And nothing that is being proposed on this would impact current permit holders. There's no expectation that his rental or any of the other rentals on Beach Drive magically have parking that they don't currently have. What's being proposed is for new applications would have to meet these new requirements for parking. So I just wanted to make sure that that point was clear to the constituent or the community member that had that question. That's correct. Can we get one clarification on that then?  All right. Well, we'll open up the public hearing here pretty quick. I guess the only comment I'll make is in District Four, which I represent, I don't think we have any vacation rentals, right? I don't have the numbers on me for District Four, but if you have any, it's very few. I think you have some hosted rentals. Right. So anyway, I've been given a lot of leeway here to, because it's very important to other districts in the county. So if we can work out, open it up for public hearing. Anyone in the chamber, if you want to speak. David LaValle, 367 Beach Drive, just to make a couple of clarifications. I do feel like by setting the numbers this way that live vote gets rewarded, even though it's probably the area of the highest complaints, because it has a higher percentage. And the Beach Drive solves that area, has had a lower number. Happen it at stability. Excuse me. We're capping out at what do we consider a stable level, but that area has had very little evidence of complaints because most of those properties are professionally managed. So it seems like it would be fair to do something like seven and a half or 9% as a cap everywhere, but you guys make the rules. I will say just, in some of the public comments, there's this notion that everybody that owns a house over in that area inherited it, and there are these rich people and all this stuff. I have a mortgage on my property. The rental income I get pays mostly, as I said, 22,000 in property taxes every year, 7,000 in occupancy tax, 8,000 for property management. And by the time I get done, I run about 20,000 negative. So I just want to make that point. I'm not making a killing in the rental business, but it does help me afford the house. The other part is I want to clarify on the parking issue, if a property currently has a vacation rental and it changes hands, a new property owner has it, then that would be a new vacation rental. So basically what you're saying is that people, if you sell your house, the new owner is going to be in a crapshoot situation, whether or not they'll be able to continue it as a residential or vacation rental house. On beach drive, those properties have historically been vacation rentals. And I think you're gonna decimate the value of a lot of those properties. The day after this passes, I'm going to the assessor's office and I'm asking for about a 25% break in my property taxes because the value of that house is partly predicated on my or anyone else's ability to pay the mortgage based on the vacation rental income. I just want to make sure you guys understand that. And also I do think that there are better ways to fix the housing problem in Santa Cruz County. The planning staff is already overburdened with projects. Now we're funneling a bunch of small items through them and increasing the level of jurisdiction that they have to have over those. It's going to create a big burden on the planning staff. You should be trying to roll out the welcome mat and say Santa Cruz County is ready to help you build multi-family housing here. Roll out the welcome mat to multi-family housing developers. That's the way to move the needle on the housing stock. It's not by getting eight houses on the beach to turn into long-term rentals. Thank you. Anybody else? Anybody else? Sorry, this is Supervisor Coonerty. I'd like to make a point that most of my district built as an education rentals. Seabright, lower west side, each flat area. It's now transitioned to a healthy mix of neighborhood and rentals and we haven't seen any property values decrease. And it's been a net overall good thing to our city and our community. It's probably supporting the ordinance. I'll move the recommended actions. We have more, thank you. Good morning, Norman Schutzberger, 59134th. 20% one fifth, one out of every five homes per block. This is truly the heart of the matter. A 20% per block allowance for vacation rentals condemns our residential community neighborhood to that density of party houses on each and every block. Five bedrooms, purpose-built businesses, as is the one on St. Enns and 35th. Eight allowed on a 40-home block. Up to 192 partiers, cars galore cramming our narrow streets. It doesn't matter whether district-wide percentages are four, eight, 12, the avenues from Twin Lakes Pleasure Point through Opal Cliffs is being converted to hospitality fund zones by continuing that 20% block density. Your measles map here tells the story. Each red pustule represents one more vacation rental assault on our community. This map, far better than words can describe, depicts the despoliation caused by retaining that 20% per block and making those existing permits automatically renewable. So what to do? Do the right thing. First, require county enforcement, not the solely and ineffectively one reliant on neighbor complaints. Fairness, bring LIVO district average density down to under 4%, the average of Aptos and Davenport as staff has demonstrated. Most importantly, bring per block density in line with average district density to alleviate that choking concentration evidenced by county's map. Limit vacation rental permits to five years, period, not renewable.  Thank you for your time. Any other comments? My remarks were made before these changes were presented. So they may be a little bit of mix and match. The one thing that I would like to say about the amendment changes that you've made, under violations you use the word may. Everywhere else you use the word shall. I'd like to see shall under violations. Barcelona expects to reduce its license to its apartments to return to the normal rental market by 30% to meet the long-term needs of their city. We talk about with that we have a housing crisis and yet this does not really do anything. The original premise was to help long-term housing. I don't see that these amendments actually do that. I'd like to see the processes and application fees be based on room rates, not just a flat fee, because that would add additional money to TOT where you make cuts in the number of permits, you raise the fees in other ways. I urge you to get creative, think backwards. Look at how much comes in, how you can make it up in other ways. How many of you have vacation rentals next door to you? That's a big question. I don't think any of you do. And the one thing in here is that you have redlined out the number of people allowed. Is it still the same where you have two additional per room aid? That is totally overkill. Do you want 24 people next to you 365 days a year? That's a big issue of how many people are allowed. And it has nothing to do with room rates. There's nothing about the nuisance issues of noise, litter, parking, not even a word that says permit holders shall require vacation renters to be curious, courteous of neighbors and respectful behaviors that are mandated. That could be under postage of rules. I feel that these amendments in many ways are disappointing and I would encourage you to go back to the drawing board. Patty Brady, thank you. Thank you. Any other comments in the boardroom? Anyone down in the community room? None. Web comments. We have one web comment. This is from Ken Davenport, Supervisor Leopold. Thank you for your thoughtful and critical comments. I agree that the language is confusing and too often left up to an administrator who has no clear guidance, our internal policy. Thank you. Chair, can we just get some clarity? Ms. Brady had asked about the question about the number of people in there. I don't think we've made changes. It was moved, it's shown us straight out because it was just moved to a different section but that's unchanged. Okay. And there was a question about connecting fees to rents. Are we allowed to do that council? She had suggested that we connect the fees for the vacation rental permits to the amount of rent that they would charge. Though we're only allowed to charge for the time we spend on it. We're not allowed to charge above that, right? Yeah, this is not a revenue raising permit scheme. Basically we charge the amounts, fixed amounts that relate to the amount of time the staff works on it in order to provide the permit. Thank you. Okay. The only question I got real quick. I think one of the gentlemen mentioned if he sells the property, then the vacation rental permit is not part of the sale, right? That's correct. That does affect the value of the property though. That provisions in the current ordinance now that we're working under and it's proposed to be unchanged. So that's true is that when the property sells the permit goes with the former property owner and the new property owner would be required to get a new permit. Right. So hypothetically, if I was gonna buy a property two years before I retire somewhere and then I see the properties up for sale and I know I'm not gonna move into it for two years, would I be able to rent it out at all? You would be required to. And for the two years until I moved down into the property. You would need a vacation rental permit and under this scheme you would be added to the waiting list because we're gonna cap the LODA or the SATA or the DASDA and then when your name comes up on the list you would be eligible to apply for a permit. That is the way the current package is put together.  I could rent it out. Right, yeah, for sure. This is just for vacations. There's still a lot to rent out. You can still rent. You can rent it out, all right. Anything over 30 days is a month to month rental. Right. Like any other rental. And everything we're doing does not affect Pajaro Dunes, right? That's right. Actually, just with regard to the first speaker's comments there are areas in the county that are not subject to the cap limits and beach drive is one of those. And also Pajaro Dunes, we have a list in the ordinance. So it wouldn't affect beach drive anyway. The moratorium affects the beach drive until it lifts but not the numerical vacation rental permit cap. Okay, anyway, do we have a motion with the amendments? Chair, you know, Norman brought up the issues that I think are real. The concern about maintaining our residential neighborhoods has always been the driving force in the vacation rental permit discussion. It's been that way because we saw this slide into these commercial businesses operating in our residential neighborhoods. And 10 years ago we didn't have anything in place and we were watching neighborhoods disappear or blocks disappear. And I drafted an ordinance and those who are here remember it was very controversial. It took a lot of work and we negotiated a agreement to place some caps on. And at the first it was only in the Live Oak area. Over the years as new board members have joined here they've recognized that this problem that has been exacerbated by VRBO, Airbnb, HomeAway, all these places, not all of them were in existence in 2010 and 11 when we adopted this ordinance but the proliferation of these has resulted in increasing pressure on turning homes into businesses instead of residential areas. I think that the time for investor owned houses in our residential neighborhood, we need to put a stop on that. You know, in the Live Oak coastal neighborhoods this has always been a vibrant neighborhood community that we lose when we have people who buy the home so they can live in it a couple of weeks out of the year and then rent it out the rest of it. That changes the nature of the neighborhood. We've seen this in the city of Capitola who has a lot of second homes and just getting people to serve on committees and commissions has been affected by that. That said, I think it is hard to take someone who owns a home who bought it with the basis that they were gonna be able to do some renting out to just say, we're gonna stop allowing you to do that. And that's why we have this program of five year permits and we can start with this, we're taking some action to start putting the cap on and pushing it down and move over time to increasing number of homes. And I appreciate that there are people who want this to happen faster. That can always be difficult. And what I'd like to propose is that we adopt the recommended actions that we change the language on the district caps in the Lota to be 15% less than what they are now. And we don't include the percentages about hosted rentals, I don't wanna take this, I wanna end the interpretation and keep the specific numbers. I would like you to come back on August 4th when you bring the maps, the block map, with some information how a public member can file a complaint or verify a complaint as stated in the ordinance. So we understand what that guidance is. And that once this is approved by the coastal commission that we send out notices to all vacation rental owners so they know what these changes have been. Okay, so we have a motion, okay, let's go ahead. Just to clarify the motion, Supervisor, you first stated that we would adopt the recommended actions but we can't adopt the recommended action if we're gonna make changes to the ordinance. So this would have to come back. That's okay, so that would have to come back on August 4th for our first read. And I just wanna make sure that the clerk got that. Yeah, thank you for the clarification. Okay, so we have a motion, we have a second. All second, I do have one clarification which provides a little bit on the specificity language on the revocation or renewal. I just wanna be sure that it's always been my intention that that language be broad so that it's really any violation of the county code be something that can be interpreted. So I just wanna make sure we're not overly specifying what could lead to revocation or non-renewal. If I could have something in writing that about that broad nature, I'd be very happy about that. My concern, and so I totally support what Supervisor Friend is saying. I want a broad interpretation.  Yeah. We're responding to what my colleague brought up, so. We can't rewrite it now. So continuing, I don't mean to create a more difficult or a more narrow interpretation, but when we have issues like verified complaints, I just wanna make sure that they were cleared about what that verification process is or we should strike the language. Okay, I think we're on the same page. I was satisfied with the language they provided, at least in section L, and it seems like you're expressing concerns in a different section. And so that'll be something that we can work with Council on to ensure that we're there. But thank you. I'll maintain my second. Call for a vote. Mr. Leopold. Aye. Friend. Aye. Coonerty. McPherson. Aye. Chairman Kepit. Aye. Now we go to agenda item 11.1. Consider final reappointments to specific at-large positions on the Workforce Development Board and nominations were accepted on June 16th, 2020. Any questions from the board members? I would move the final appointment of Stephen Gray to the Santa Cruz Monterey Merced Managed Care Commission as an at-large hospital representative. Excuse me, that one has been deleted. Oh, okay. Staff has re-withdrew his application. Well, there you have it. We will not be considering that and I will not make that motion. What is the name on 11.1? There are several names. There are reappointments of the incumbents. Okay, thank you. That's enough. So we added 11.1. You're right. You want me to read it in? I'm happy to do that. So consider final reappointment to a specified at-large positions on the Workforce Development Board nominations accepted June 16th and there's a board memo printout. Okay. Anyone in the chambers would like to speak. Anyone downstairs in the community room? Any, nothing on the web, so we're okay. I move approval of the recommended actions on 11.1. Second. Please call the roll. Supervisor Leopold. Aye. Friend. Aye. Coonerty. Aye. McPherson. Aye. Chair Caput. Aye. We will now recess the closed session and then we'll reconvene at 1.30 or you want to make it 1.45? It's a scheduled item for 1.30 at this point. All right. We better get out of here if we don't have lunch here. Yeah, we didn't anticipate, I'm sorry, we didn't anticipate, we didn't bring in lunch today. Okay. Yeah, can we do that? We should. Okay. What you could do is take a break, have budget hearings at 1.30 and then continue to have the rest of the board meeting, including closed session at the close of the budget hearings. Okay. Okay. We'll do that. Is we and we have time, 35 minutes is enough for everybody to get lunch. You're okay, we're all okay. Okay. We'll reconvene at 1.30 for budget hearings. Thank you. We'll see if any of these people show up. That's the deal we'll resume, that's the graph this evening. Okay. 1.30, continued budget hearings, last day reports and concluding actions will now resume the continued budget hearing. It is Tuesday, June the 30th, 2020. Will the clerk please call the roll? Supervisor Leopold. Here. Friend. Supervisor Friend. Do we have Supervisor Coonerty? Here. Supervisor McPherson. Not yet. So we switched to a new team meeting. Oh. And Supervisor McPherson and Supervisor Friend might not. No. So maybe their analysts can contact them or somebody from IT can contact them to get them on the right teams meeting. Okay. Supervisor Friend. Supervisor Coonerty. Here. Supervisor McPherson. Chairperson Caput. Here. I'd say we keep on moving forward. Should we go ahead or do you want me to wait another minute? In 20 minutes. There was a challenge with the B-led act in the fraud. You have a quorum. So you can proceed if you'd like. You want to try McPherson one more time and then we'll go ahead. It doesn't look like he's there. Okay. All right. Consideration of late additions to the regular and consent agenda revisions and corrections. Mr. Palacios, are there any late additions or changes? No, there are no late additions or corrections. Okay. Public comment. This is an opportunity for members of the public to address the board on topics on this agenda and topics that are not on the agenda but are within the jurisdiction of the board. Each person will have three minutes to speak. Is there any public testimony here on the chambers? And we do have one person. Hi. Hi. Okay. Can I step up? Okay. It's all yours. All right. Good afternoon, members of the County Board of Supervisors. My name is Elise Kasby and I've been an activist resident in Santa Cruz since 2013, summer of 2013. The reason that I'm here today has to do with my involvement as an activist in some of the movements that we've been hearing so much about the Black Lives Matter movement and things like questioning the policing budgets and the budgets for jails and so forth and so on. And so my comment today is pretty general. I was just visiting the offices in the building trying to find out what I could about government budgets and how does somebody even really approach them and who's in charge of them and so forth and so on. And so that is what my comment is somewhat directed to today is that as an activist is really interested in matters of democracy and government who spent the last 25 years being deeply involved in grassroots movements and just sort of finding out what the lay of the land is. Who are the different groups? I tend to be on the left over to the center, to the radical left all the way to the center. And I have even some things and come with people on the right. My general feeling about it is, is that people are feeling extremely alienated from government at this time. And specifically when it comes down to law enforcement, I think there's many questions. I don't pretend that I'm representing anybody here today because I'm not an official spokesman. I'm just strictly speaking to you as a citizen. In particular, I am very concerned about the county jail and the recent death of a young person named Tomario Smith. The excuse that was given is it doesn't really seem to be, do I still have a minute? Okay, it doesn't really seem to be factually based enough. It's he died of some kind of over ingestion of water. So I just wanna say in these times, I think it would be really helpful if government would go what might seem to the status quo and people involved in the status quo as the extra extra mile to bring in the public and questions about especially law enforcement and budget, how the jail is maintained and so forth. I'm sure you're aware of what's going on, but that's the first thing that I just wanted to say. And the second thing that I wanted to say is that I have witnessed the beefing up of policing, especially against the homeless. That's really what I think it amounts to. And I think that what we need are social services and outreach, so thank you for listening to me today. Welcome. Any public testimony in the community room? Okay, anything on the web? We have two web comments. The first web comment is from Ken Davenport. Dear supervisors, I'm disappointed that the budget was mostly approved without more critical discussion but COVID-19, your constituents are out of jobs furloughed and having trouble meeting basic needs for their families. Yet, from the funding perspective, it seems like business as usual in Santa Cruz County government. I sincerely hope you work harder this year to listen and understand the needs of your community. Thank you for your consideration. And the second web comment is from Oscar Paz. Hello, I am upset that you are not allowing public comment on this issue. What are you avoiding? It is difficult to find these silly bubbles and say what I'm thinking. This is not a democracy, not to the point with defunding the police make us safer. Police departments already have enormous budgets. Are we getting what we pay for? Are we allowing public funding to go to waste? Defund the police, defund the police. The thing that almost never gets cut in moments like these is police budgets. What's up with that? People are losing jobs, housing. What are we protecting? Who do you serve? Is this what you want out of your life? The Oakland Police Department receives nearly half of the city's discretionary spending. That is more than human service, parks, recreation and transportation combined. Minneapolis, where George Floyd was killed passed its budget in December and it increased its budget for police by 10 million to a total of 193 million. Here's what they're spending on other things. 31 million for affordable housing, 250 for community organizations, working without rescue, 400,000 for office of crime prevention. Where are we not investing in things that are actually needed in the county? As a Brown and undocumented person working full time in this county, I do not feel safe around cops. I've had bad experiences with them ever since I moved here and since I do not trust them. I will never call the police across the county program service are being cut because of this crisis, a bigger crisis is not utilizing the funds properly. The police protects property. Shame that you are not taking action and joining other cities across America to defend the police. I hope that your next live, you never have to experience property, housing issues, or let alone be a born, a colored person in this world. Challenge the system and see how far you go. Thank you for reading these words. I hope you make the city proud. Okay. Well, thank you. And that concludes public comment and we'll go now to item 56 as the Board of Supervisors of the Redevelopment Successor Agency. Consider and authorize the auditor, controller, treasurer, tax collector with the concurrence of the County Administrative Officer to make necessary end, year end adjustments for 2019-2020 due to increases and decreases in available financing and approve the proposed 2020-2021 year redevelopment successor agency budgets as referenced in the outlined budget documents and memorandum of the County Administrative Officer. Do we have any comments? Yes. Yes, Chair. I'd like to invite our budget manager, Christina Mowry, to give the staff report on this and the following items. Yes, thank you, Carlos. And good afternoon, Chair Caput and members of the Board, Christina Mowry, your County Budget Manager. So the item 56 allows the auditor and controller with concurrence of the County Administrative Officer to make any of those necessary year end adjustments due to the changes in available financing that occur at year end. So it's recommended that your Board approve the proposed 2021 redevelopment successor agency budgets as referenced in the outlined documents and memo included in your packet pages four for your comment. And I'm available to answer your questions. All right. Do we have any Board questions? I don't hear any. So, hey, thank you very much for your report and I guess we're ready to go and we'll open it up for public comment, I guess. Okay. Mr. Chair. Yes. This is Supervisor McPherson. I wanted to move. Yeah, I want to once again thank our County Workforce for sharing in the pain of the budget process this year, especially Christina Mallory, who has tried to scare us through an unbelievable budget situation. And especially those kind of employees who've got the front lines of COVID-19. This has been anything but business as was stated by somebody who addressed us. No, I don't know that we can say this County's done it perfectly, but I think we're doing it as well as we can under some really trying circumstances when state orders are changed, if not every other day, every other week, we have a lot to deal with. And as I said earlier today, rather than just slashing services, we are all taking a reduction in pay to help close the gap. And I appreciate once again our Board and our County leadership for setting an example in this regard, everybody has taken a cut on this, the Sheriff included. And as we are proposed, but we're going to finalize this in August, of course. So I think we have done an excellent job as a County Board with allocating our health and human services to the best of our ability and expanding them throughout to numerous agencies who help our people and greatest need in Santa Cruz County. And as far as the development agency was just mentioned and that's a long gone thing, but for one of those things that a board before I was on this County Board of Supervisors, how they used the redevelopment agency money that was available to the best of their ability. And I know that Supervisor Leopold was in the middle of that situation. And how we handled the funding so we could use it for services and capital improvements was incredibly outstanding. People probably have forgotten that because that was brought 10 years ago or so, but we have done some things that are very much correct in our budgeting process in Santa Cruz County. I think we are trying to address issues, whether it be in health and human services or parks facilities or public safety. I think we have really spread it out as well as very well. And I'd like to give credit to everybody in the budgeting process, especially in Santa Cruz County for helping us get through this very trying situation. And I look forward to the revised budget outlook during our hearings in August. And I sincerely hope that greater assistance is on its way from the state and federal agencies. But these are tough times. And you have to come up with the decisions. Everybody in the county has been part of the solution, all of our employees, not only for the services that they have provided in the COVID-19 pandemic, but just in saying that, okay, we're gonna take, we're gonna take a cut ourselves to get us through this, which amounts to, I think somewhere in the neighborhood of $10 million. I understand our outlook is a little better since there's been some reopening, which I'm sure some people disagree with, but we'll hear more about that from Christina Maori. But I think that the way we have steered through the course in this unpredictable, unbelievable situation, I am just very proud to be part of what you might call the solution to the best of our abilities and to make sure nobody's hurt too much, but everybody has to take part of the responsibility to get us on track and balancing our budget, which is required by state law. So thank you again to everybody, especially to Christina Maori and the whole administrative team from Santa Cruz County, appreciate it very much. I'm done. Compliment and thank all the county workers. Normally you would hear some complaints somewhere, I haven't heard any, I don't know if the other board members have heard any, but I'm amazed at how everybody is willing to pitch in and reach into their own pocketbooks and take some money out, which is basically what's gonna happen. And I guess there'll be some frozen openings for hiring and there'll probably be some early retirements and things like that that'll be worked out by the county administrative officer, I believe, is that correct? Yes, and this item is just the redevelopment agency, we're getting to the county budget next. So this one is just redevelopment and then we'll talk about all the other things at the next item. Okay, okay, I'll open it up to the public. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I know the budget and so I just wanna say that if you have any room for questions, I know this isn't the best questions at all, but you could just tell me what this item means a little bit when you say redevelopment successor agency budgets, or maybe you wanna refer me to somewhere, but I realize it's probably outside the more appropriate procedure. Thank you. Sure. Okay, any other comments from the public, either here at the community room or web? I don't hear, I don't hear any, see any. That'll, we'll close the public hearing. And if we do have a motion and a second. Chair, just for the education of our public member, the county had a redevelopment agency for roughly 25 years. The state legislature and the governor eliminated that in 2011 because they sold bonds to pay for improvements in the community. There's a successor agency which oversees the final allotment of that money. I appreciate Supervisor McPherson recognizing the good work that the county did in the closing of redevelopment. We took an outlier strategy and chose to invest all that money before the closure happened. And we were, I think the only agency in the county that didn't have to return money to the state. So we're still seeing those benefits. And we talked at our last meeting about even the last, here 10 years later, we're still have housing money that we placed over the housing authority as part of that closure. So it's been very successful. I'm prepared to move the recommended actions for the redevelopment successor agencies. Second. Okay, first, second. We'll call the roll. Supervisor Leopold. Aye. Friend. Aye. Poonerty. Aye. McPherson. Aye. Chairman Caput. Aye. Passes unanimously. And that will take us to item 57. Consider the year 2020, 2021, County of Santa Cruz proposed budget concluding actions, authorize the auditor, controller, treasure, tax collector with the concurrence of the county administrative officer to make necessary year end adjustments. And for 2020 and 2021 due to increases and decreases in available financing and a report item and approve the 2020, 2021 County of Santa Cruz proposed budget including concluding report items and take related actions as outlined in the memorandum, the memorandum of the county administrative officer. We'll have a presentation first, okay. Yes, thank you, Chair Caput. This is still Christina, now your county budget manager. So the purpose of this report is to provide your board with the concluding report and lasted budget actions to complete the 2020, 2021 budget pro forma. So the materials are already included in the report. And I wanna just, there'll be three items I'm gonna cover. So the first item is gonna be the financial update, including the status of the general fund contingency. That's attachment one and an exhibit one, which is pages 17 through 26. I'll give you a state budget update since the recording of this report. And I'll also share with you the state budget update the recording of this report. And I'll also walk through and give you a few highlights of the closing actions for a 1920 and 2021 that can be found on pages 12 through 16 in your report. So first, I wanna sort of highlight for you so far where we're at with the general fund contingencies. Page 17 in your report is attachment one. It provides a summary of the changes in the concluding report and reflects the net overall savings in the various charges, which are offset happily by an increase in contingencies of $841,446. The exhibits start on page 18 where there's an exhibit, summarizing all the changes, exhibit one, one A covers all the county overhead realignment, which saves about $335,000. Exhibit one B is the property tax administration fees, which are realigned for 1920 and 2021 for the departments that oversee our property tax administration. There's an increase there for next year of $254,060. Exhibits one C is the realignment of the public safety revenue proposition 172, which realigns all of that revenue. Actually, we're anticipating the decrease as it relates to COVID. So it really realigns those losses to those public safety departments. Exhibit one D is a realignment of the data processing charges. I'm happy to say there's a savings there this year due to reduced costs within the information services department of about $1.1 million. And exhibit one E is the realignment of radio charges. We also have a decrease there in costs due to savings within the radio shop. And one F, of course, is everybody's favorite, the accounting summary of the changes to contingencies. So the net effect of all these changes increases contingencies from $3.4 million to $4.2 million. Before any changes are considered during the August budget hearings to address the financial constraints from the impact of COVID-19 on the economy and the county's revenues. So we'll be covering that in August. The second thing I wanna update you on is to give you an update since the report on the state budget. So last Friday, as you probably know, the legislature passed the 2021 budget act bringing a temporary completion to a budget process that was entirely upended by the onset of COVID-19. The legislature and the governor were able to forge an agreement on a budget. And the budget bill AB 89 was sent to Governor Newsom for his signature. Given the ongoing nature of the pandemic the delay and the delay in knowing how much tax revenue the state will receive due to the extended filing deadline and the continued uncertainty about whether any additional federal funds will be received to the state. It's entirely possible that the governor and the legislature may need to revisit certain aspects of the budget during the upcoming year. So in addition to the main budget bill numerous budget trailer bills were adopted by the legislature and those that contain county priorities. The governor also issued a proclamation of a budget emergency which allows them to utilize funds from the state's rainy day fund. So as you know, the county budget priorities included in the state budget shifted significantly between January and June but ultimately a sustained and coordinated advocacy effort by counties was successful in achieving positive outcomes on several high priority issues. Many directly responsible in response to the pandemic. So there's key funding in the state budget includes $1 billion at the state level as a realignment backfill to help prevent devastating cuts that would occur to safety net programs due to the decline in realignment revenue which comes from sales tax and VLF. So it's gonna take several weeks before the county receives detailed information regarding the realignment backfill amount for the county. But what is known is that of that $1 billion 750 million is guaranteed to counties and whereas 250 million is subject to trigger cuts depending on whether the state receives additional federal stimulus funding. So my preliminary estimate is this could save the county about a third of our combined realignment revenue losses for 1920 and 2021 which is estimated between six and $8 million which will be included in the revised budget proposal in August. In addition, the state allocated CARES Act funding to counties as we've mentioned before assuming the state approved the budget we were due to receive $28 million which is our share of the CARES Act funding from the state passed through from the federal government. And it's anticipated that $2 to $4 million of these funds will help the county with its unreimbursed cost related to the emergency. Those are costs above and beyond any grants we received and any FEMA funding we're expecting. So this will greatly help the 1920 county deficit and the remaining funding will be presented to the board in August with how to best address the costs associated with the emergency through December. Also included in the state's budget is $100 million for the increased costs of the November election and the new requirements in response to the pandemic. It's unknown how much the county will receive to assist with the increased election costs and it's expected that the details will be provided in the August budget hearings. We also the state allocated $900 million for various homelessness efforts allocated to cities, counties and continuums of CARE from both federal funds and the state general fund and the county will be receiving an allocation of those funds and you'll hear more about that in August. So the third area I wanna cover which is always everybody's favorite is those one through 35 itemized actions that allow us to actually put together the in preparation for the adopted budget in September. So this year will be a little different because you're gonna take actions today and you'll take additional actions in August and the combination of these actions and the actions in August will make up the adopted budget that you'll take action on it at the end of September. So most of these actions are fairly routine. They begin on page 12 of your packet and they allow the auditor with concurrence from our office to make necessary adjustments as part of fiscal year in close and preparation for the adopted budget. All of the adjustments will be prepared and brought back to your board for ratification in September with the adopted budget and will include the changes the board approves in August. So items one through 11 address the 2019-20 adjustments and there's a couple new items there. I wanna just call to your attention in case you have any questions. Item number two is related to allowing the county to reimburse ourselves for any of the COVID-19 costs from the CARES Act funding that we're due to receive from the state. And item 10 addresses reimbursement of costs for public works for the Twin Lakes Project closeout costs. Item 11 addresses matching funds from contingencies for the emergency culvert projects that your board approved in January for Capitol Road and February for Sumner Avenue. So this allows for those matching funds from contingencies. And items 12 through 32 are all related to the 2021 budget adjustments. And I need to make a correction to item 31. It should read the application period through August 6th instead of July 31st, so that we can allow enough time for those applications to be received. So, but item 31 is a new item. It authorizes personnel to extend and relaunch the retirement incentive application period through August 6th. And the program elements all remain the same with the exception of the retirement date, which will be on or before December 31st for retirements approved in the second application period. And this we believe will help assist with some additional layoffs. Item 32 is another new item that will authorize the auditor controller with the concurrence of our office to adjust the appropriations to effectuate the furlough savings by department as authorized and agreed by the bargaining units and approved by your board today, which will be effective July 11th. Item 33 sets priorities to address the expected shortfall in the general fund fund balance available and authorizes the use of reserves to offset the expected shortfall for 1920. Now, originally we expected up to $20 million and now it's estimated at approximately $10 million due to the improvements in revenues, some use of some one-time revenue and also the anticipated reimbursement of costs related to the COVID response that we'll receive from the CARES Act. And then we believe that we'll need the remainder of some of that, those reserves to help us balance the 2021 budget. And we will bring that to your board in August for consideration. So I wanna just take a moment to thank the county staff and everyone who worked on the budget, especially the staff within our county administrative office David, Eric, Gatisa, Nancy, Peter, Rita, Sven and Trish. They've worked tirelessly in the new ways to complete the budget and before you today and they're continuing to work with departments on revisions related to the pandemic to present something to you in August. It's times like this that staff shine and we are very fortunate to have an exceptional team willing to go above and beyond and to put together a plan guided by the strategic and operational plan and your board's priorities. This is a challenging time and I'm very grateful to be able to help make a difference and grateful for the support, cooperation and leadership of the county departments and budget staff. A special thanks to our county administrative office leaders that I admire greatly and have relied on for support. Carlos, Nicole, Elisa and Melody, I couldn't do this without you and I thank you. So it's recommended that your board take the recommended actions as outlined in the memo and return in August with modifications to the budget to address the COVID-19 impacts, including any updates related to state and federal funding. And I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Yes. Mr. Chair and Chair. Yes. Yes. Advisor Reiser, I got a little ahead of myself. I wanted to combine all budget things in one package, I guess, but again, I want to thank the county workforce for sharing in the pain of balancing this budget process. Ms. Monterey, what's your best estimate? What will be left on a reserve fund? Will it be down to 7% if all of these things come to pass? We got up to 10% they were thinking maybe we'll have to get down to 7% is that probably correct at this time? Yeah, so we still believe we won't go past the 7% minimum. We won't need quite as much for 1920 to balance the books and we'll use part of that into 2021, but between the two, we won't go beyond the 7% minimum and we may do a little bit better. Good, thank you. Okay. Any other? Supervisor Leopold? Well, I just want to say a couple of things, Chair. First, Ms. Mowry, thanks for your work on the first half of the fraternal twins that we're having this year as our budget process, all the work that you and everybody did for putting together this budget and then having to go through the whole process the second time is a lot more work than you usually have. And I appreciate your dedication and consistency to get it done. And there is some hopeful news that you shared with us today, which is good. At lunchtime, I saw something online that said that Republicans in the Senate are now talking that by the end of July, they'll have something done at the federal level and hopefully that will help us out as well. At the beginning of today's meeting, we heard from people who saying that we weren't making ourselves available, but we're one of the few public agencies that have continued holding in public meetings and we've provided new ways for people to get in contact with us. We are also, I think, showing some wisdom in not making all of our budget decisions now before we know what's gonna happen and instead coming back in August with better information. There are lots of issues and concerns that people have about the budget. And until we actually know what kind of resources we have, it's impossible to say we'll fund this, we won't cut that, we will reduce funding in some area. We want a system that reflects our values and the budget is our best value document. And this budget this year, when it's finally settled in August, will be the reflection of every employee in the county contributing to making it a success because Ms. Mallory and her crew may be the ones who put the budgets together and the financial staff and all the departments helped that, but this year, each employee is contributing towards what we will have in our budget. By accepting the furloughs and helping us save jobs, we'll have more people working here than we would if we didn't have that. I wanna express my appreciation to all the county employees who helped make the success of the county government every day and especially this year when we're asking a lot of you. And to the public, we're gonna work, we have a set of budget principles that is focused on keeping services to the public as much as we can, and we will do that. And I look forward to the discussion in August. There will be some tough decisions that we have to make then, but I'm confident with the groundwork that we've laid in building up our reserves by aggressively seeking funding from outside sources, by being strategic about how we spend money that we will have resources to make good decisions for the people of Santa Cruz County. Thank you for your work. Okay. Any other supervisor? I'll make a comment. I wanna make sure we thank the taxpayers. Everything in this room, all of us included, our salaries, all the furniture, electrical work, the roads and everything else is all paid for by the taxpayers. And as elected officials, we have like a sacred trust to spend public funds wisely, honestly and fairly. And I think we've done that. And one thing that was I think very wise was building up our reserve fund, which at one time was as low as just a little over 10 million. And now it's up, well, it was up to over 55, 56 million dollars. And I guess the other is what I've said before too, when we have good times, we gotta spend the money, the same as we're gonna spend money in bad times, meaning like once we get out of this, we can't get the feeling that it's not gonna happen again. I mean, when I got elected to the city council in Watsonville, everything was going along well and then all of a sudden the Great Recession hit. And we remember that, that wasn't that long ago. Then we got out of that with the county and everything working with people, seven and a half percent furloughs and all that. And then we got hit with this coronavirus. So the point I'm getting at is that when we get out of this and we are, we're gonna all get out of this, that we are mindful of the fact that this could happen again in a different way, in a worse way or not as bad a way. But no matter how we're spending taxpayer money, we have to do it very wisely. It's a very important part of our sacred trust that the voters have given us to overlook all the money that comes in. And we're talking about a lot of taxpayer money. So, and of course, I already thank the city, the county workers and department heads and fellow supervisors for the sacrifices we're gonna make. And so I'll now turn it over to anybody else who wants to comment. We have public comment and it's, you have the floor. Yes, you're one of the taxpayers, right? I'm just being done to help us all. I can't miss my word even. Thank you. I'm an in-person person. So, I just really appreciate everything I'm learning here today about the employees taking on the burden of actually basically letting go of money so that and accepting furloughs and doing what you can to address these really unusual times. Hopefully they are truly unusual as we move into the future. What I just want to kind of really zero in on because it's one area that I am familiar with is I heard Ms. Mallory say that a 900 million is coming from the state that's probably for to address homelessness issues probably within the whole entire state. I'm sure that amount isn't just coming here. But I want to say that I have been extremely involved in observing all kinds of issues pertaining to people being unhoused and what happens to them. And I am incredibly concerned about what I consider just again, I'm coming from the point of view of a grassroots activist. So if I sound critical, it's because I'm coming from that point of view, but I've heard so much today that's encouraging. I really want to emphasize that. But we at one point this past year, $10 million supposedly came from the state into our county. I did as much as I could to try to observe what was going on with that $10 million. I believe there has been, well, I know there's been a grand jury investigation and report that was listed on the county website from 2015 that what we need more than anything is emergency homeless shelters. And I just want to say that I know that the churches are coming together to provide for this, for homeless needs. But I really think that the state is the best, that meaning the government is the best people to provide emergency shelters, not the Salvation Army, not other groups. We need an emergency shelter that's robust enough to really deal with the various clientele and the people that are homeless. So I just want to say I was not pleased with the, I could not get more information. It seemed like a lot of that money went into salaries at the HAP and others. I'm just hoping that we can do better to actually get those services to the people who are homeless. Thank you. Thank you. Any other persons either downstairs or on the computer? I don't hear anything. If I could just make a final comment. So this budget was largely developed prior to the COVID emergency. And for that reason, we recommended in your board has adopted that recommendation to come back in August once we have more information rather than try and adopt a budget with incomplete information. So we are going to come back on August 10th through 13th with recommendations to amend this budget based on more information about how our revenues have been affected. Also, we'll have more information about state and federal aid and our own local revenues as well. And then we will be asking the board to adopt an amended budget on August 18th. The news is somewhat better from what we initially thought. We initially thought we were going to use $20 million of reserves this year. And now we think we're only going to use about 10 million this year. That means we could probably use another, the other 10 million next year to help balance next year's budget. And then we also have the CARES Act fund. We'll be able to help us. We also have some of the realignment backfill that will help us. Our revenues are somewhat better than we thought because the reopening happened much sooner than expected. But nevertheless, it's going to still be a very challenging budget. And so I do really want to thank all of the County employees for the sacrifice. They have made an agreeing to furloughs. I know that's a very difficult thing to do. I know it's a very challenging thing to ask. And I just want to thank all of them for that. I also want to thank our board for agreeing to take furloughs themselves at a higher level. I think that shows great leadership. And I also want to thank Ms. Mowry for her leadership. She's really our leader in the budget. And it's very difficult. We just ran a marathon and we're going to start another one. So it's a difficult proposition for Ms. Mowry and our staff in the CAO's office and all the staff in the departments as well. So I thank them for all their efforts. We're going to get through this and we will be back. We'll be working all July and we will be back in August with the budget amendments once we have more information. Thank you. You're welcome. And you probably remember you were the city manager of Watsonville. I was on the city council and when the recession hit right there, you took a big 10% pay cut and also gave up a raise that you had coming up and all the city workers in Watsonville all gave up 10%. This one that we're voting on, some will give up 5%, some will give up seven and a half. And then the board and department heads will be giving up 10% if I'm not mistaken. So we're trying to share some of the hurt with the public because the public is having such a hard time paying their bills and trying to keep their doors open. And of course, when your doors close to the public, that's the tax money we have coming in. And if we don't have it coming in, we have nothing. We have nothing. So anyway, thank you. Is it ready for a motion? Okay, I'm ready to go. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to the recommended actions for the county budget for the following, for the coming year. Second. You have a motion and a second. Ready for the roll call vote. Supervisor Leopold. Aye. Brand. Aye. Coonerty. Aye. McPherson. Aye. Chairman Kepit. Aye. And that passes unanimously. And I believe now, let's see where am I, we go into closed session, right? That's right. We're going to go into closed session, nothing reportable. Nothing reportable. Correct. Correct. Okay. Thank you. That concludes the meeting and thank you.


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Dollar.  Call him out. Will you sure thing lieutenant? On your way out. Yeah. Thanks a lot lieutenant. Here's your boy. Mr. Dollar. You'll have to talk to him for the break Stuart Palmer. Yeah, my name is dollar pretend a casualty and life sent me out here Understand you're in some difficulty. There's anything I can do to help you didn't come here to help me You came to investigate my new policy now look, I don't need your help or anybody else's I Paid my first premium. That's all you were the company need be concerned about they're concerned about the fact that you're being held on Suspicion of murder that doesn't affect the policy. Have you retained counsel? That's none of your business Thanks for the cooperation nice to meet friends in a strange city You can have a Markowitz. Well dollar lovable isn't he? What have you got on him? Oh, not much some whiner was killed in the Clark Street pool room Palmer was holding one of the cues. We pulled him in with about 14 others When are you gonna release him? We're not sure he's been in before you know Tell me what's the matter with him? Who knows? He's a writer crime stuff hangs around the West Madison district lot of the time calls it research Does he still have that Kenwood address no way to say? Yeah, 5715 Well, I hope his wife is jollier than he is. Oh, mr. Martin. I was oh I'm sorry. I thought you were somebody else. I am. My name is dollar. I'm an insurance investigator I'm sorry. We have all the insurance we can use I said investigators. I want to talk to you about your husband. Oh Come in Why do you do this to him? I know why it's like he says you're all after him You don't like him because he's a genius. You don't understand him. You'll never understand. Oh, wait a minute You can try all you want to as do it says when one human being does something better than another human being That's when they attack him. Well, go ahead. Look, Mrs. Palmer. I'm on your side.  I'll explain the whole thing to you come on That's better Now your husband took out a hundred thousand dollar life insurance policy last week. There's certainly nothing wrong with that This is Palmer, please This week your husband is arrested on suspicion of murder there now You see you don't know anything about him and already you're accusing him of the most awful thing. I am not accusing him of anything Mrs. Palmer. I'm just trying to help I talked with your husband a little while ago. He wasn't very cooperative I'd hoped you would be you put him in jail and then you're expecting to be cooperative Does he have a lawyer? Yes, of course, Mr. Martin. That's who I thought you were. How does Mr. Martin feel about this? He's been very nice. Do it isn't worried. Do it knows that Mr. Martin can Bring him any time he wants to What is your husband right books? Well, he used to write for the radio But if he says it's a very limited medium So one morning he went to his agent and toyed that contract up right in his face And that very day he started to write his place 140 pages with real people and everything he took every one of them from life Is the play about crime? How did you know that? I met your husband doing a little research in jail. Well, they put him in jail because they don't understand As he says they don't put a doctor to bed in a hospital because he's doing research on a dangerous disease People don't know good from evil. That's what's wrong. They're afraid of the truth and that's what Stuart writes He practically lives with this subject Criminals. Yes, he studies them. Nobody can write believably about something unless they're familiar with it. That's the sacrifice he makes You don't get to see much of them, do you? Well, his work is infinitely more important than I am But as soon as his play is produced, we're going away together. Atlantic City, you're permuted. The manuscript has been in New York for six months now, so it it shouldn't be long before he is What is your husband's income then for the past six months? Well, there hasn't been much But great art is often born of poverty. What hundred thousand dollar insurance policies aren't Who's this man Neil Beasley your co-beneficiary?  Well, perhaps I'd better You mentioned an agent. What's his name? George Michael cough. He's in the Ingram building Crazy that guy is crazy. You can't do business with a guy like that art. He talks everything's got to be art Spends his time with Bums and he calls it art. Hasn't he done anything for six months? Mr. Michael cough not with me Well, let's face it not with nobody, you know He could have been a good writer this boy, but he was too arty not commercial then boom He's got a right to play and where is it? Probably in the bottom drawer of Hallstein's desk and it's going to stay there Here's a copy take it along and read it. Thanks. What about this research? He does research Is that what he told you? I? Had to go down to the county jail and bail him out twice. That's what washed me up Some day they're gonna catch him with the goods on him, you know Maybe it started out to be researched, but it ain't now Well, how did it start with a guy named Neil Beasley?  Yeah, yeah, that's the boy He took Palmer under his wing and that's where he still is. I don't know. Maybe he can't get out Beasley came up to the office with Palmer once what a character What is this Beasley hang out? You know who knows nasty neighborhoods? Expense account item to 80 cents cab fare to a nasty neighborhood After a lot of questions and bad bourbon I came across a character who called himself Roscoe Roscoe was the walking who's who of the district when I mentioned the name Beasley He swallowed his drink wiped the back of his hand over his mouth and leaned over the table toward me Beasley Let's see Beesley come on here is something to stimulate your memory. Yes, of course Beasley Neil Beasley been a friend of mine for years slipped my mind getting old Beasley was born in Cincinnati of well-to-do parents. They say he attended Harvard, but perhaps it's only a story You know how story starts get the history where can I find him any number of places if the race track was open? You'd find him there, but the race track ain't open There is his place of residence. Where is that? I don't know But he must live somewhere Obviously, what would you suggest you familiar with the atomic tavern up the street? Oh, I'm a stranger in town Peoria No, you have the face of a peoria salesman. I don't know something in the eyes Yes, well the atomic tavern up the street. Thanks Roscoe You never did say where you were from Hartford, Connecticut If you're ever in town look me up Four blocks away squeezed between a delicatessen and a shoe parlor. I came upon the atomic tavern It exploded just as I arrived I'm ready to come in anybody with a civil tongue is welcome. Thanks Neil Beasley around. Yeah, who went to the name is Johnny doll. I'm a friend of Stuart Palmer Well, you tell him that he's at the back table there Your name be easy For you mr. Dollar What's your business dollar insurance investigation and I sit down I'm working for a company that holds a policy on the life of Stuart Palmer Insurance racket. I wonder how it started. I suppose somebody back in Rome Bet Julius Caesar ten drachmas. He wouldn't live through the 15th of March and one What do you want with me? I'm looking for somebody who'll make some sense. Maybe you're it. I understand your palm is beneficiary That's right He's a good boy. Yeah, but he's not a good risk the company ensures a radio, right? I come out here and learn he's a petty criminal. What's your problem dollar? Why don't you cancel the policy? Well, I will if I can tell me what got him started well put yourself in his place He spends a lot of time around here learning so he can write good stuff He writes good stuff so good. They won't buy it. So he falls back on his education.  Well, it's quite a philosophy you guys. I Was looking toward the front of the building. I hadn't seen him come in But it was Stuart Palmer. He was standing at the elbow of the bar obviously looking for his friend when he spotted me He started for the door. Oh sit down dollop That's my arm bees me sit down and leave him alone the cops released him. Just leave him alone Let's go Inside he was half a block away heading west I knocked over several West Madison Street characters And then it suddenly occurred to me the only reason I was chasing him was because he was running away from me I was 50 feet behind him when he rounded a Walgreens drugstore in the corner for a second I lost him then I saw him. He wasn't running. He was turned toward me I bent over the news boy just long enough to see that he was dead and I started after Palmer again There was no mistake about it. He wanted that policy and he'd killed to keep it In just a moment. We will return to the second act of yours truly Johnny Duller, but first The screen sophisticated caustic. Mr. Belvedere alias Clifton web will swap quips with Bing Crosby on the Groner CBS show This Wednesday night CBS cordially invites you to hear this great show that promises some of the best laughs of the season When it comes your way on most of these same CBS stations this Wednesday night Mildred Bailey the rocking chair lady of popular song also will be on hand as guest star So remember be listening when Clifton web Mildred Bailey and Bing Crosby get together tomorrow night Now with our star Edmund O'Brien. We returned to the second act of yours truly Johnny Duller I lost Palmer in the next block if daylight had held for a little longer. Maybe I could have stopped the whole thing I looked at my watch. It was 605. The Hartford office was closed. I Headed back for a phone in the Walgreens drugstore. I got to the corner just as the police and the person of Lieutenant Karagin The devil you doing here look at that kid Karagin lion If you hadn't let that maniac out the boy would still be hawking his papers. Hey, wait a minute back off What are you talking about? What do you think did it? Palmer Palmer. Are you sure? Yeah, he was shooting at me. Why'd you let him out for oh look dollar? There are laws. I told you earlier. We didn't have much on him. He was clear. Well, you sure not clear on this one Kid only had three papers left.  Come on move I don't know what there is about people. They're just glad it wasn't their kid Oh, here's the tale. I came down here to find a guy named Neil Beasley a friend of Palmer Palmer showed up in the joint when he saw me. He made a dash up the street I took out after him and when I got to the corner, he opened up the kid was standing next to me After the gunfire, I went after Palmer again. Believe me. I wish I'd caught him. Yeah Sergeant Put out a general on Stuart Palmer all adults in my office Why would he want to kill you? That's a hundred thousand dollar question lieutenant I'll be in the drugstore Sorry to bother you at home. I'm on the Palmer case out of your Hartford office. That's right No, things couldn't be worse. Your only move is to cancel the policy, sir How soon can you do that on good grounds? Well, if you can't do it tonight, just forget the whole thing Well, the police have put out a general alarm for the policy holder dead or alive and the yards are on the bad side Good. I won't keep you waiting. Bye Spence account item for a dollar eighty cab fare back to Mrs. Palmer's apartment on The way I suppose I should have been worried about the hundred thousand dollars worth of policy That didn't seem to bother me It was the news boy who never knew what hit him and there was Palmer's wife I was gonna have to tell her about it But I knew even before I got to the apartment that she'd never believe me.   Well, my guess is that he's doing it for you. Oh, that's a terrible thing to say He wouldn't do anything wrong even for me. He took out an insurance policy that he couldn't afford Why do you think he did that? I don't know. I never understood about business And he sure got you Some people have collie dogs and he's got you He comes home Pats you on the head, so you'll look up at him and tell him how wonderful he is You know why?  Why are you saying these things? I'm trying to tell you that he failed both as a writer and as a husband. Don't you see?  So you'll collect the insurance That's a lie Where is he marrying? No, he's here now. Why do you say that? Where are you always as easy to find as you are? You won't find him here. Does she know where he is? No, he just phoned her wouldn't tell her Well, it looks like a long night. Yeah for her to Mind if I ride back to the Madison district with you. It's quite a theory dollar What happens to a guy to get him in a mess like this? Burn too many bridges. I guess made a stand with his agent Told everybody he'd show him. He was right now. He can't do it Maybe I've been in homicide too long. I used to think a lot about things like this, you know Wonder about what started these characters. What got into the place where I'd have to go after him No more their problems aren't mine All I worry about now is how to get them without getting anybody else hurt You've got a nice simple job lieutenant Carrigan. Yeah, I was thinking of that You want him alive the insurance company does I hope it works out for you. I Can't take any chances We always try to save him for a trial But if you're right about this one, he'll come out with a gun. Those are the kind we have to stop You know this could turn into a very unpleasant situation The lieutenant was kind enough to drop me at the atomic tavern The place was empty The sirens that frightened most of the clientele out of the precinct all except one He sat in the same position at the same table with what looked like the same glass of beer Hello, Beasley. Mr. Beasley.  Well, sometimes we sell too much You know where Palmer is surely always know where Palmer is he tells me things he wouldn't tell anyone else You may not care mr.  I'll tell you the truth. I Don't want that money. I don't want a penny of that money Look good at first. He wanted to give his wife a break off at me ten grand to help him out How did you help him out? I'll take right now for instance. I could have tipped the cops twice a minute since it happened fact, I Was supposed to cops would have killed him wife and I would have collected our money But I can't do it Isn't it a little late for a boy scouting? No No, not if you could talk him out of it Where is he? No cops No cops Just as soon as I finished my beer We walked down Halstead with the red street cars rumbling by and the fruit trucks and the chicken wagons I Didn't notice the name of the street we turned west on but a block and a half later.  No? No, I'm going in But I'm crazy too. That's why you should never listen to a guy like me Farmer's got nothing to lose. How much do they pay you for getting killed? Come on if you're going let's go Okay, I'm a Pomerance Beasley let me in You've got a good line Beasley. Mr. Beasley so good. I believe it myself What's that supposed to mean? Oh Palmer? It's a bad deal all the way around What do you want to do make history? You won't go down in any books. What's got into you? You help me lay out the whole thing. Oh, yes, it looked good, but it won't work. He's right Palmer It won't work. I put through a cancellation request on your policy, but it hasn't gone through yet If it had you wouldn't have come in here. It's no good Palmer Even if it doesn't come through they'll fight it in court after you're dead. We've got too much against you How far will they get without your testimony? You aren't gonna be around to give it.  You've got a chance The news boy is only a second degree rat.  All right, then. Why did you come? I don't know Maybe Maybe because way back in my mind. I thought to myself I Can get to this guy. Maybe it was your wife that made me come. I just saw her Palmer You know, you aren't doing her any favors by getting yourself killed.  They're coming. I Didn't tip them. They must have followed us down. It doesn't make any difference how they get here Just so they come They'll watch it dollars stay away from me Nobody's gonna stop me now This is what they all wanted like a big literary agent with the big promises Great play he tells Yes of the old friend They'll cut the story out of the papers and they'll save it in the desk drawer Poor stew. They'll say he could have been a good boy.  It's waste Palmer. It's for nothing. It's no use dollar. He's going to do it But I lie down on the floor My name get away from here. I want to talk Come on in here Marion what are you doing here with a new test? Don't do it. I don't want money that way. Wait a minute. Did they make you come in here? No, no, I want Goodbye, Marion Palmer's policy was not cancelled before he died But I'm sure that with the staff of legal geniuses employed by the Britannia company You'll come out all right A soft judge gave Beasley 60 days for attempted insurance fraud and that was it Expensive on item six same as item one transportation, Chicago to Hartford Expensive on total six hundred and thirty five dollars and twenty-four cents. Oh Almost forgot item seven Thirty five cents tipped to Western Union boy telegram from Marion Palmer contents Thought you'd like to know Stuart's play accepted for production on Broadway Yours truly Johnny dollar Yours truly Johnny dollars stars Edmund O'Brien in the title role and is written by Gildowd and David Ellis With music composed and conducted by Leith Stevens Edmund O'Brien can currently be seen in the Harry M. Popkin United Artists production DOA Featured in tonight's cast were Lorraine Tuttle, Larry Dobkin, Bill Boucher, Bill Gray, Jack Krushen and Herb Butterfield Yours truly Johnny dollar is produced and directed by Jaime Del Valle