This goes back a little further than the last trip. It involves a substance that was so kindly brought to me by Ellie here. This is called water. And you may not know it, water has memory. Did you know that? Tell me something. A man named Jacques Benveniste did some tests over there. They were published in Nature magazine with the provision in the middle of the article that they published it only because he had agreed that an independent team sponsored by Nature and paid for it by Nature would go in there and see how his tests were being done. We did indeed and we showed there were serious problems with the protocol and he's still arguing it to this very day. The theory of homeopathy. I will share this with you. I won't go into again the whole thing, it's very involved. These things are never simple. It's not like gravity, things fall down. It's always much more complicated than that. There are about four premises of homeopathy I will share with you.  Think of the social system of the day and the social situation. Medicine was in its infancy. It was barely started, they were barely away from Paracelsus who made the wonderful discovery that you could use this medication non-organic substances. Up until then, pretty well, everything had been organic substances. He was using metallic salts, simple salts, recured chloride, lead acetate, things like that. He was treating the patients with these substances. It cured the disease very effectively. Unfortunately, the patients all died. So they had the best looking corpses in the hospital. But they had clear complexions, no symptoms whatsoever and they made beautiful corpses. Now, Paracelsus actually, you've got to admire him. He's one of the heroes of medicine because he was brave.  As a scientist, he really did do some thinking about it and he was experimenting. Of course, he was experimenting on human beings that weren't in his family, but nonetheless, he was experimenting. And he did discover some very useful things and started people out on a new way of studying medicine. But in those days, back 220 years ago, all over Europe, all over the civilized world, indeed, more patients were dying under the hands of the doctors than were dying without the doctors. Poor people couldn't afford doctors and self-terminating diseases, things that they could recover from, that their immune system or natural processes would eventually bring to a close, either by death or from recovery, were taking place naturally. While the doctors were bleeding people and doing pretty ridiculous things with their bodies and giving them a lot of poisonous compounds as well. Which, all the way, they were poisonous. In some cases, in small doses seemed to have been affected. So it was encouraging. But think what happens now when this man, Hanuman, comes along with a wonderful theory that you don't have to give Nazi a substance to people, that ordinary water will do the job. Those people are effectively going to be receiving no treatment whatsoever, and they are going to join the group that is going to have a higher survival rate, people who don't go to doctors at all. The theory was this. The theory is sort of sympathies and likes curing like. The idea is that if you... This is the way they did their studies. They would take a healthy patient. That's a bit of terminology I can't quite define, but a patient who looked healthy, they bring him in, they say, okay, I want you to swallow this. And they'd give him something like extractive dandelion or extractive sand, or extractive... Well, they'll say extractive dandelion. That's a little less hard to choke down. So they give him that, and he develops symptoms. We'll say the symptoms are A, B, and C, and those symptoms are breaking out a red rash all over your body, shaking violently like that and fainting every 20 minutes. Those are pretty serious symptoms, you see. Suppose those are the three symptoms. He writes that down in his book. When they take the dandelion extract, they get these symptoms. A healthy person, that is. So then he waits, and he waits and waits and waits, and finally a patient comes in among many patients and says, doctor, I got a problem. There are three symptoms. What are your symptoms? Well, every 20 minutes or so I fall down to the floor. Wait a minute, got that in my book someplace here. You ever suffer from red rash? Yeah, I'm in a red rash all over my body. I know there was one here someplace in the experimentation. And they describe as symptoms A, B, and C, and he says, Eureka, le voilà. We have a solution for you. You're going to be cured by extract of dandelion. But wait a minute, second rule of homeopathy. You don't really give them the dandelion. What you do is you give them what they call diluted or attenuated solution of the dandelion. Now I mean attenuated, folks. They use terms like attenuated and they use terms like, there's my chalk, they use terms like attenuated and diluted. Now in order to be diluted you got to have, not diluted, diluted. Diluted is easy, but diluted you got to have a solvent and you got to have a solute. A solvent is the liquid or whatever or the larger amount of substance and the solute is what's dissolved in it. Okay, if you don't have one of those elements you haven't got a solution. You got only a solvent or a solute. Well, they have attenuations of various degrees. Now I'm not going to trouble you with powers of 10 and all that sort of thing, but if they take one part of the substance and put it in 10 parts of water and shake it up it's called successing, not shaking up. They got to have a technical term for it. A certain way it's got to be shaken and then what you've got is called a one solution. That's called a one solution. If you take one part of that and put it in 10 parts of water, put it in 100 now, that's called a two solution. So it's directly related to the number of zeros on the amount of water, the comparative amount of water. So if you have a five solution it's five zeros after the one and one part of substance in that. Now as soon as you get up around 23, 24, 27 and such depending on the substance you get to what they call Avogadro's limit. This guy Avogadro was a troublemaker way back when and he came up with this limit which says that there's only, at that point for that particular substance in the solution you now have other being one molecule of that substance present. If you do it again you've got one more order, one more dilution. There's one chance in 10 other being one molecule of the substance in this liter or whatever of water. Well folks, the homeopathy people start off at a dilution of 10 to the 50th, generally speaking. There are 10 to the 23rd stars in the universe. That's what I call dilute. Oh, but you ain't heard dilute yet. They go all the way up to 10 to the power of 1,500. That's extremely dilute. Now look at what that means. I called my friend Martin Gardner and said, Martin I really need something for the layman. I don't know what 10 to the 1,500 is. It's a huge number, very, very, very large number but how do I illustrate that? He said I'll call you back.  I said yep. He paused for a minute and he said now I'm going to call you back. This can't possibly be right.  He said it's equivalent to I hope you're ready for this. I haven't told you the fourth quality of, the third one is by the way, the more dilute the medicine is the more powerful it is. So as you get up to 1,500 it's getting more and more powerful. It works the other way. We might think it would work the opposite way but apparently not. And the fourth rule you still haven't heard. That's a doozy. Martin said if you take one grain of rice crush it up in a teaspoon you then dissolve that powder in a sphere of water the size of the solar system with the sun at the center and the orbit of Pluto at the outside then you repeat that process 2 billion times. Now there are naturally as might have occurred to you a couple of technical problems here. First of all how are you going to mix it? Maybe the dough just with a stick. Where the hell do you get the stick? And you have to mix it for billions and billions of years as Carl would say. You have to stir it for a long time and it's very difficult to mix it up but nonetheless that's what it calls for to get that kind of dilution. Now for the fourth rule of homeopathy. Every molecule of water which you have so prepared when it comes in contact with any other molecule of water immediately passes on its quality to all of that water. I have a question. Now I'm only a layman but boy I've got terrible questions to ask these people and I've asked them this and they say it's a non-significant question they refuse to address it. Since water has been around for billions and billions of years all of what I've got in this little cup of water here a lot of that's been around for billions and billions of years and in this process it must have come upon contact with other molecules that have been in contact with lots of other molecules which have been in contact with each and every possible organic and inorganic substance available on planet Earth. And since the more diluted it is the more powerful it is feel much better. What's wrong with that question? Why don't you give them ordinary tap water and know they'll give them extractive cadmium or something like that which don't fear it has no cadmium in it it's the purest water you're ever going to drink. There's no way and they admit there is no way of telling the cadmium attenuated solution ho-ho with the lead attenuated solution with the gold attenuated solution and they even have substances like sulfur and sound quartz ordinary quartz which doesn't dissolve in water to any appreciably extent at all. You shake one part of quartz or ten parts of water try to detect the quartz friends I ask you by the most sensitive of tests but they say it works. Oh really? Does it really work? Well the people report it works. What about the people who die? Well it doesn't hear from them.


Yeah, and so that's obviously important because when when you go into this type of industry You know its parents aren't stupid parents that are gonna know whether you've got experience for me personally I a Lot of coaches say to me. Oh, I've got this qualification. I've got this qualification The reality is in one-on-one training, right? You don't really need a qualification to work with players one-on-one at the moment, right? So I what I look for more is experience because in a one-on-one setting. It's very personal Right. Yes, you need to you need to be a very personable person, which means you need to help your clients Overcome certain obstacles. Yeah, and and they're coming to you because they want you to solve a specific problem Yeah, in a team environment. It's very difficult. Well, it's it's very different because Essentially you're teaching a team not to lose Yeah, and giving that one-on-one attention is is Limited right so one-on-one training is obviously great in that in that sense So being a personable person is one skill, which you need to master


Hello, welcome to the Dave Trumbo show. I'm Greg Royce joined here by Stevenson women's volleyball coach Dave Trumbo coach You got back in the conference play last week. I'm starting with a match Tuesday night in Arcadia Dropped the first set but came back to You know win three to one and what you know We talked about last week is gonna be a challenging match for your team and it really was They're very big very physical with the net There was a blackout there everybody have black shirts on although all their men's team was there because you know They have men's volleyball at Arcadia packed house And I think that you know our kids as much as we talked about them being good I think they were a little surprised that they were as good as what they were and I think that we just embrace that kind of crowd. We love it and After we dropped the first set we started playing a little bit better And I think the big game experience that our players have probably really helped us out And with the crowd singing overrated, you know That just helps us And because they kind of embrace that kind of moment kind of you know this they just love it It's one of the things we talked about this year Is you've been in several situations like that where you've been in a playoff type atmosphere? Honestly that can only help as you you know look to your ultimate goal of you know advancing in the postseason Absolutely, and I think we did not have two of our starting players that night and Megan Ren Emily Castro stepped right up and played flawlessly and really it just we just have so much depth in practice And when we have recruits watching this practice, you know, I'll say now you tell me who starts You know because and they can you guys have to see them day after day after day Because they're just not much difference and you know our practices are you know What I think we're improving we're taking a step forward. We can't do that with all 18 players contributing. Yeah And then you go down to go again on Wednesday win three nothing then on Saturday You'd go to hood for a pair of Mac Commonwealth matches Defeat like homing hood probably the big story there. I like a Schwartz becomes programs all-time kill leader She did that in the first match against like homing and then you know She was named player the week for the second time this season on Monday Yeah, that the match at hood, you know, typically We all play like homing really tough and have difficulty with hood This weekend. I was very pleased. We didn't play poorly in either match and we you know and Anika You know no longer the day when Anika's got to take 50 swings for us, you know, which you know we're very balanced and a lot of times I tell you the truth the bigger the game the better Anika plays and But she played extremely well Saturday is very pleased for her And she was able to get the record. We really didn't even know it because You know, I didn't hadn't seen a box score. Yeah, but nice for her to achieve the record. We know it was coming. Yeah, and so She's getting a lot of nice accolades her senior year, so I'm very pleased for her Yeah, now looking ahead to this week who's as we just talked about you're finally home for a few matches I've been home three times this year. You've got four home games this week starting tonight Against Elizabeth Todd a very quality opponent talk a little about about them Elizabeth Towns a little surprised this year. They did not do well in 2016 have a brand new coach they're 11 and 5 and They really can bang the ball have two really good outsides one of them is a local girl from eldersburg that kind of started off with Us back in fifth grade, so you know her quite well And then we follow that with a conference match against Widener, yeah, you know conference matches are always important and then this weekend we get to play Washington and Lee and Juniata, so Washington Lee is getting point getting votes for the top 25. Of course, Juniata You know the polls will be out today, but I think they're like 13th right now. It's a great opportunity for us Yeah, I mean we talked a little bit about that that obviously, you know, this is a pivotal week in a lot of ways You're being at home for some big matches You know really if you can come out, you know not to look ahead if you came out Let's say three and one or you know, hopefully not that would for now That'd be a you know huge for the program and maybe you know looking at NCA implications Well, Washington Lee is that ODAC conference with the Randolph-Macon who would face the last two years in NCAA And these have not been good endings but Washington Lee is always you know, it's either Washington Lee or Randolph-Macon getting that bid from that conference So that's a really you know the more matches we play like that and better It prepares us for postseason and those tough matches and you know Juniata Of course, you know, that's just just the name and people you know that they're they're a great team and So we're we're really happy that we're gonna get a chance to compete with them on our court Yeah, we're looking forward to it Yeah, I see you guys at home a few times this week starting tonight against Elizabeth Towns seven o'clock Owens Middle School I hope to see you there for Dave Trumo. I'm Greg Royce. This has been Dave Trumo show


into just and I don't know how much time if you have time constraints as much time as you need okay or you want until you get tired of speaking to me oh that could be a long time which means it's ad infinitum because to get tired of speaking to me is an impossibility exactly exactly the only part I might get tired of is listening because I like to talk so that's the only challenge okay I'll try to keep more quiet no no no you're doing great I did not mean that I meant the part of me liking to talk not the part of listening so so let me let me let me posit something and tell me if if you agree or disagree how this fits in I mean it strikes me and and I'm I believe in free will I think you do from from what I've heard I know Sam doesn't but I think you do so my view is that we are with that every one of us there's a component evolutionary component there's a genetic component that that has a say in who and what we are there's clearly environmental component there's there's influences and then there's the choices we have made along the way to engage with our minds or not to engage to be lazy or to use our reason and that to me that is the most important component and that in a sense can override the others in that's what makes us human ability to override them does that is that make sense does that is that the way you think about the world so so let me step let me take out the free will conversation from the discussion for a bit so one of the there are many points on which the tractors of evolutionary psychology will like to focus on each of which are perfectly incorrect some of them are scientifically based but most of them are ideologically based in other words most of the people who hate something about evolutionary psychology it's because it attacks their essential pet ideology of theirs so if I am religious I hate evolutionary psychology because where's God in your thing if I'm a postmodernist I hate evolutionary psychology because there are no human universals if I'm a radical feminist I hate evolutionary psychology because it's not true that there are evolved sex differences and so on and so forth okay so one of the things that people argue regarding evolutionary psychology is they say oh but it is a form of well it is not a form it is the form of biological determinism if you provide a biological evolutionary genetic explanation for a phenomenon then this argues that we are a slave to simply execute that algorithm and of course that is profoundly idiotic because for most things not all but for most things as you correctly said we are an interaction of our genes and our unique environments even genes themselves get turned on or off depending on environmental inputs so the correct position that all evolutionist state is the interactionist position so to argue that something is biological based doesn't remove the influence of the environment so anybody who tells you that evolutionary psychology is biologically deterministic is simply advertising I'm a moron who doesn't understand anything that's all he's saying okay so so on that on that issue it's clear the issue of free will I'm kind of puzzled by it and I should mention I haven't done enough reading on all of the different you know schools of thoughts on free will but if I were to summarize given my very limited reading an exposure to sort of the free will debate uh Sam Harris and Jerry Coyne both of whom have been on my show and are good friends basically argue look we are nothing more than basic natural laws and if you unfold all of the cascading you know physical reactions that are all materialist then we arrive at the point that we're at and that's it it could be nothing else that seems profoundly uh unimpressive to me here's another one that they usually say the brain will often time have there's a delay between when you recognize that you're going to do something and the neuronal signature that again doesn't suggest that you don't have free will it literally just means that there is a neuronal lag between you being aware of it and your brain actually manifests manifesting that neuronal activation pattern so to me maybe because I'm not into all of this sort of mental masturbation I see it as a profoundly useless debate because if free will is something that doesn't exist then I'm really wasting my time trying to study psychology of decision-making because what is is let's all go and have a beer right so I might be missing something and I'm sure there will be tons of messages at the bottom of this comment saying I thought that God said what's smart but my god what a moron he doesn't suffer to me uh of course we are bound by physical laws but ultimately when I'm trying to decide whether I'm going to marry person a or b or buy coke or Pepsi I don't understand where the free will conversation comes in maybe you can enlighten well I mean it's a it's it's an ancient conversation it goes back to Greek philosophers and it's it's being debated to know and then I'm not a philosopher so I'm not going to try to to to to give a bit you know that even with the with the neurological issue right so what example do these raising your hand and I'm quite willing to accept that whether I raise my hand and every given point of time is determined by lots of other things that come beforehand so where do you put the essence of what free will is the the engagement of free will I so I start by the fact that first of all I know I have free will because I know I free will I can I can tell that I'm making choices something is is making a choice and by very would that we use choices decisions that means that they're options what's that they will respond to that forgive me for interrupting you they will respond that it's an illusion it's exactly you it's an illusion because it makes sense for you to be deluded in that way via that free will illusion that is the same argument the post modernist give to me when I say this is a pen it's an absolutely I can see it and I can touch it well to me introspection is like seeing and touching just about you about your own nature you cannot the reason doesn't mean anything if if it's not some if it's not if there's no free will it's just a it's just a straightforward physical biological process that we engage in all the decisions have already been predetermined in a sense and even if you have the the environmental component well that's again just deterministic and it's all just deterministic it's it's one big to me they what so so rand's view is that that the essence of free will is this idea of engaging your mind or disengaging it focus like you get up in the morning and you kind of dozed off of it you know you have to sleep and you you actually make an effort okay I'm gonna focus now oh you sit down to write a paper right you sit down to write the research and you say okay I'm really gonna focus now that focus is what is the essence of free will in a sense everything flows from that now can I explain it biologically can I explain it physically in terms of no but there are lots of things I can't explain in science you can't yet explain physically or biologically but I can see it right in a sense I can see it in myself now yes you can say it's an illusion but then we might all be just in a vats right and this could all be a dream that's the same argument it's a silly argument you we have to rely on our senses we have to lie in on our own observations about the world but how and again maybe someone's already proposed this argument so please hold your hate mail I'm a novice on this debate if only because it profoundly I found it profoundly unsatisfying as a as a point of this I don't mean that you bring it up but just as a as something that I'm going I'm willing to spend you know I agree in 2000 year but let's what if I were a machine that simply that so I'm called the Gad machine so that if you present me with two women the the manifest preference that I would choose is woman a in other words if all the cascade of all of the physical laws that would result in me instantiating my preference to woman a I now create a not Gad machine so whatever I was going to manifest as my choice I now choose the opposite of that right so what would so then what would that be would that be that oh but that's that's simply the cascade of neuronal I mean yeah and it's and you see it's you can't from it it might be possible to create a machine that we from the outside cannot tell if it's has free will or not but we're not we have experiences we have a consciousness we experience life right machines don't experience right not they don't they're not conscious animals have experience and maybe they have some free will it's hard to tell if they make choices or not but we through introspection can tell that we're making choices so I I agree with you it it matters because there's no morality if the if we're all deterministic nothing matters if we're all deterministic it's what's the point of studying things if we're all deterministic we you know go to the beach and I don't even know what that matters if but then so let me ask you this so what what is the main reason maybe this is a maybe this is too difficult of a question what is the fundamental intellectual reason for this debate so for example you might say well for some people they want to argue that there is no free will because that serves to excuse people's actions and they want to be softer on crime I'm making this up I don't know so what what is the intellectual pull of this conversation that I'm missing well the intellectual pull is in philosophy certainly moral agency right are you responsible I think that's the fundamental I think for somebody like Sam and I'm speculating here and I you know I'm sure he'll contradict me but it's he wants to be a scientist he wants everything to be grounded in science and he views free will as mystical somehow it's a it's this little spark of God and the truth is that in the past most defenders of free will have defended it on mystical grounds and so when he so he I think he's thrown out the baby with the bathwater when he rejects religion and he's rejected everything mystical and I'm all for that I'm rejecting for everything mystical but I don't think free will has to be viewed as mystical it might be something we still don't understand there's a lot of phenomena in the natural world we still don't understand but it's a natural phenomena that we can all observe just we observe any under scientific phenomena and I think that's what you're saying is like I deal with free will all day I don't call it that because I deal with choices but without choices this is all just mechanistic it would be uninteresting if I was just analyzing the decision-making of robots because always look as an algorithm yeah go ahead so what would he say and again I'm asking you to put yourself in his but it's only because you probably are much more familiar with this debate than I am so when I wake up every day and try to understand the evolutionary roots of human behavior what would Sam say about that exercise is it still worthwhile because notwithstanding the fact that we don't have free will at least it allows me to predict behavior better would that be his position he would say and again this is me trying to channel Sam Abbott which is very hard because he's brilliant and you know and I mean he's a phenomenal mind but my guess is what he's saying is the more knowledge we have the more inputs into our computers the better decisions the better outcomes we will have so while I'm not choosing but the more exposed I am to truth the more information the computer has the better the outcome coming out of it I think that's how he'd explain it I'm not moved but okay thanks for the explanation


I could have been big. I could have been big. And that's not a joke. I mean it. Come on, man. I'm serious. But I really mean it. We sort of forgot. Think about it.  EVERYONE! No, I'm serious. What is he talking about? Granted, my mind is a dementia riddle like Joe Bynes, but I'm pretty sure I remember learning about the supply chain in basic high school economics. So yes, as I suspected, at the most basic level of high school economics, you learn about the laws of supply and demand, which includes the supply chain. Think about it.  EVERYONE!


Hello, I'm Nipah Pong, Freelance Consultant on Agriculture and Forestry. I aim to learn most about women's participation or women's involvement in the land rights and responsible agriculture investment, especially how to apply its principles to some particular context in terms of policy dialogues and community participation. Thanks.


Director at SkyMatters, and he's from Hong Kong. Thank you. Okay. Hello, everyone. My name is Jack. Today I'm going to talk about growth from small simple steps. So learning from Amazon, the name can be shorter, growth from S3. Yeah, today I'm going to walk you through one of my pistol experience, contributing to an open source project, which was not going really well, surprisingly. The problem is like this, the library name is called Active Record Imports. So how does it work? Once you need, for example, import 10 books records into a database at the same time. Instead of writing 10 different SQL statements and 10 database connections, you can write one and just say book.import books and then all the record is in the database. So it helps a lot if you need to insert millions of data at the same time. Yeah, but now some problem comes once we use enum in Rails. So enum is a feature since Rails 4.1. Basically you can define the enum attributes with some, for example, the status here must be either drafted, finished, or published. But somehow the value saved in a database is always integer. So drafted is zero, finished is one, and published is two. However, to do the assignment, you can say dot status equal to zero or dot status equal to draft. Yeah, only integer is saved. Sometimes in the migration you need to have, you want to have like default value to the status, but once we use that again, boom. The argument error says integer zero is not a valid. So my first question is, looks like I'm not sure why the integer zero is used instead of, so why the string is used instead of the integer. Then I look at how does it work in the PostgreSQL because I was using PostgreSQL and find out there's a method called pg get expr, and this is a method to get the default value and the output is actually a string. So that's why we get a string zero instead of the integer. And then I think Rails must be smart enough to do the typecasting and we can always assign integer attributes with a string and it should be automatically do the conversion. But somehow in the import methods in the library, it just use read attributes before typecasting. So it basically just read attributes from the instance without doing any typecasting. And then the place raise error is the one we call the method since k equals to v. Yeah, and this is a place because zero is not a predefined string. Yeah, so there's an error. And I was also asking why the test, all the tests go to past. If you still take about, it's still a single test. So this is a model file inside the spec. It basically defines the enum status once the active record version is larger than 4.1. For active record version 3, 1, 3, 2, 4, 4, 1, and 4, 2. Does anyone find the problem? What's wrong here? Yeah, the 2i. Because for 2i, at the most it converts the version to 4.4 and the value is never larger than 4.1. So the enum attribute is never defined. Okay, so I get the problem. I know what's wrong. I got the failed test case. Now I roll up my sleeves. Okay, work hard overnight. And then I received a lot of encouragement. And at the end, okay, sorry, I go back. I'll go back. Sorry, wait a second. So, yeah, and I received a lot of encouragement and at the last, the author of the repo when I said it is the best pull request I have ever seen. Awesome, but it didn't happen at all. So the reality is, okay, the reality is I sat down and was not sure what was wrong. The first I thought, okay, it might be a problem with Postgres SQL, but it turns out, okay, SQLite and MySQL are the same. And then I think, okay, that might be a problem because Rails, I think Rails must be smarter than this, but maybe way, way, because enum, it accepts strings like drafts and it never should be converted as the string to integer automatically. And at last, I define, okay, I won't have a pull request to replace read attributes before typecast with read attributes, which basically do the typecasting. And then the first maintainer comes here and say, okay, why in our library read attributes before typecasting is used? I'm a bit confused because I thought this is a question I should ask him and he should tell me, right? I was a bit confused. And then here comes another and here comes another committers, he said, oh, actually, the code was back to 2007. But go ahead, go to use read attributes if that test case passed. Really, 2007? You know, that was Rails 1.2. I got really sad about this. And then here comes another, the first committer actually come back and say, okay, actually the typecasting is handling somewhere else, but go ahead to use read attributes. And I was even confused because it's not logical at all. If the typecasting is handled somewhere else, why you need to use read attributes to do the typecasting duplicatedly? Confused, confused. And then I tell them, okay, read attributes is actually slower for the typecasting 50 times slower because I think my pull request was actually not that good. When I was still thinking, there was another committer actually comes here. In another pull request, actually made a very simple fix and I kind of get all the text pass and he just basically changed the model.send k equals to v with model scrap bracket k equals to v. I thought these two are the same, but somehow they're not. Because the scrap bracket equal sign basically is the same with writes underscore attributes and which does typecasting as well. I'm thinking, okay, it's working, but not very good either. But at the moment when everyone is, was stalked, the maintainer say, okay, I wanna close this. I wanna merge your pull request. Go ahead, but I'm going to create another pull request and merge the changes of both of your pull requests. So this is, yeah, this is kind of the story and through the entire story, I had no much positive emotions and the result was not very good. Although my pull request got merged, but I don't have much code to contribute it. But even this, I get some takeaways and the takeaways is really something I'm going to talk about today. So the first, I know much more about the active record connection adapter. It is good design to support your application, support multiple database types which is scalable. And the second, I understand more about different types of assignments in active records and typecasting. And also, I understand how at least the default value works in PostgreSQL. And the library itself is actually pretty good. The people are amazing. This is a good example or library to as a showcase how to support multiple Ruby versions and database adapters at the same time. And of course, no Rails, you know, more. And here's what are the takeaways I come here to for you. So the first, don't believe in stars. So for this library, it has more than, so for this library, it has more than 1500 stars and it is updated very frequently. But even for this, there was still some mistakes. I think most of the beginners can fix. And then, so the second, don't think you're making a perfect pull request at the first. So learn from the conversations from others. And the last, I think, contributing to open source projects sometimes is trivial, like small simple steps, but sometimes even the small simple steps is not that easy, is sometimes not smooth. Sometimes the reality is like this. So my first, my last suggestion is like, go ahead, don't compromise. Thank you.


Hello and welcome to the session. I am Ashram and I am going to help you with the following problem. Solve the following pair of equations by reducing them to a pair of linear equation given to us 1 by 2 x plus 1 by 3 y is equal to 2 and 1 by 3 x plus 1 by 2 y is equal to 13 by 6. Now let us write the solution. The given pair of equation can be written as into 1 by x into 1 by x is equal to 2 and 1 by 3 into 1 by x plus 1 by 2 into 1 by y is equal to 13 by 6. Let us name it as 1 and 2. The problem by and have a nice day.


Hey y'all, welcome to What Chelsea Eats. Thank you so much for joining me today. It is summer and I want to share with you a quick and easy nice cream recipe to help you on your fibroid shrinking journey. If you are new here and you like what you see, don't forget to hit the subscribe button and hit the notification bell so you never miss an episode. Let's get into recipe making. What I've got is some frozen fruit. One frozen banana and three cups of tropical blend frozen fruit. This is papaya, pineapple, strawberries. The next ingredient you're gonna see is dragon fruit powder. It is great for cleaning the kidneys, building your bones. Vitamin A, good for the skin, helps with anemia, builds the iron, strengthens the hair, helps with constant constipation. It has vitamin C. I mean the list goes on and on so I'm gonna add that to this smoothie. I'll be sure to put a link down in the description box for the brand that I like to use. And so I forgot to say I'm using my Vitamix blender, my old Vitamix blender, the Vitamix 5200 and I'm adding the fruit. Got the bananas, the strawberries, the papaya, the pineapple going into the smoothie and also this is for two people. Now I could eat it all myself but I wasn't that hungry so I split it between my husband and myself. And so now all I'm gonna do is put the lid on and blend it until it is nice and thick and creamy. Look at it, it's so nice and creamy and it tasted delicious. I had it in the blender probably about 40 seconds to get it blended down to this degree. Now if you have a blender that is different than a Vitamix, it's not a high-speed blender. You may have to add a little bit of liquid maybe water or almond milk to get it to this consistency but I absolutely just love this. So I split the mixture between two bowls and look at it. It's so creamy and actually it's a little warm in my house so it kind of started melting a little bit and I was taking a long time because I was recording the video. So what I did was cut up some fresh strawberries to put on top of the nice cream just for some texture and this tasted so good y'all. It was just two or three strawberries that I cut up and it was an amazing touch to this. You can put blueberries, strawberries, kiwi, whatever fresh fruit you have on hand. You can even put frozen fruit on top if you would like. You don't have to have fresh. So there you have it, an easy nice cream recipe to help you to shrink five braids naturally. It tastes absolutely delicious. If you like this video, please give it a thumbs up, share it with a friend. Until next time y'all, take care, lots of love.


Hello everyone, and if I was the pastor of your church, I'd say, come forward. You don't have to sit in the back views. At the church of WordPress, everyone is welcome. So now I'm going to shift topics. How many of you are familiar with the 36 Mafia? A couple. 36 Mafia. For sure. They actually won the Academy Awards Song a couple of years back for the song with the title. It's hard out here for a pen. The only job harder is being a... Hustle and flow. Hustle and flow.  We got to go chase the work. We got to do the work, do the work, do the client relationships. And sometimes it's a struggle. Doesn't have to. The next speaker is Kyle Lappery. He's going to talk about a freelancer's got to suffer. Open Kyle. Thank you. Finally. Honestly, every time I talk at a word camp, I'm nervous for like the first, I would say the hour right before I'm talking. I'm getting this pit in my stomach and I'm freaking out. And then the moment I get to this point, I'm like, what happened to all that nervousness, you know? It's the weirdest thing. I've spoken so far at... This is my fourth second time here in Raleigh. And I actually did one similar to this in Wilmington a couple years ago. So there will be some similarities to that. But this is the freelancer's guide to survival and WordPress. My slides are actually on Twitter. They're on SlideShare, so you can check them out there. And I shared them on Twitter with the hashtag WC Raleigh. There's my Twitter handle at Labrity Creative. If you're wanting to check it out, what I'm going to go over today, all this fun freelancing stuff. And we're going to get into that now. Who here is a freelancer? Awesome. Nice. Full-time freelancers? Or kind of part-time, full-time? Okay. I've been doing the freelance thing since 2015. And a lot of this is kind of... It's really just my own, I guess, experience as a freelancer. Sort of failures, successes, and constant learning still from everyday stuff as a freelancer. You never stop learning. You'll learn something new every day. Somebody's going to come at you with something. So it's always a good learning experience. I'm from Pittsburgh. I'm an Air Force veteran. I came to Apex North Carolina in 2012. This, like I said, is my fourth time speaking. My sixth word camp. And right now, I freelance for my own business, Laverty Creative. I have another website that's more veteran-focused. And that's mainly because when I got out of the military, I was really not sure where I was going to go, what I was going to do. I sort of wish I had a good resource with all of the tools and tips and tricks and stuff that I know now. So I created that in order to make that happen for people. Soon to be husband, I get married on May 19th. Thank you. That feels good. Thank you.  We're basically already married, but now we'll make it legal, I guess. Got five kids. Yeah, yeah. It's a handful, yeah, absolutely. And you can find me on my website, LavertyCreative.com. If you go to my slideshow, you should be able to click all the links and get to all those Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, and Instagram. What is a freelancer? It is a self-employed person providing a service or services, in this case here in WordPress, but not necessarily always in WordPress. I'm open to all things as a freelancer, though. I primarily work in WordPress. Sorry, can you hear me? Sorry. Hello. It's not working anymore. Technical difficulties. Not bad. Testing, testing, testing. Oh. Got you. Tell some jokes. Yeah. I don't have too many of those. At least none that I can say here. That's my problem. So I'm impressed by the fact that you've got five kids. Tell us about the kids. So I have three... That's how that happens, right? Yeah. I don't need one. Lots of practice, yeah. I have one kid I could barely keep up. Well, I could barely keep up at that many as well, so five is more than enough. Can you hear me again? Yeah. Perfect. So as a freelancer in WordPress, you can be any number of things, designer, developer, writer, maintainer of WordPress sites, digital marketer, SEO specialist, or all of the above. I'm kind of all of the above. I would definitely not consider myself an SEO specialist, though. And I'm kind of an okay writer, but, you know, don't judge me on that. Where do you get started? I never knew where to get started at first. I'm self-taught, actually. When I, like I said, when I got out of the military, you know, I did some stuff before making my way back here to North Carolina, and I was going for a computer science degree initially. That was my initial track, and I thought I should have a website for myself, and that's kind of where it all started for me with WordPress. But the main thing for freelancing, where to get started, is get a plan, develop a process, and then proceed with that. Whenever I started planning, I looked around to see what others were doing. There's a lot of fellow freelancers out there that have already done it, that have great content, great websites, stuff that you can not necessarily, I mean, you're not going to copy anything, of course, but if you're trying to find where to get started, it's a good place to look and see what others are doing. Write down your goals. This is something I didn't do at the beginning. I felt that my goal was just to be a freelancer, and I was like, yes, freelance. And here I was as a freelancer. What do I do now? Never had any goals to begin with. I didn't start out that way, and I wish I would have. And it's important to write down goals so you can reach one at a time, even if it's just a little bit at a time. It's good to write those down and get to them. It's good to choose your niche, niche, niche, niche, potato, potato, tomato, tomato. Choose your area. And I wouldn't necessarily say you have to choose, but it's good to kind of start out that way. But you can stay open. For instance, for me, I was dealing with somebody earlier in the week, it wasn't even a WordPress site. It was some page builder website on likewebs.com. They called me about an error. And I don't know if anybody's familiar with webs.com, but it's just your typical template set up site builder type thing, sort of like a go daddy site builder. He had an error, and I was open to it, and now he's talking about potentially getting a WordPress website. You can operate in a specific area, but I would definitely say to stay open so that you can potentially bring on those people as a WordPress client in the future. And with developing a plan, determine your rate. I'm not going to say what your rate should be. It depends on how you value your time. This is definitely something at the beginning where I was a little too low on my rate. And probably just because I was starting out, I thought I should charge a little less so I can get people on, but that's not necessarily the case. Because you might not really be getting the clients that you want in that case. And you're going to be taking up a lot of your time doing things that you felt like you should be, feel like you should definitely be paid more for. So determining your rate is very important. What is the value on your time, essentially? I actually use a tool, and I didn't put it up here, but it's thenewschool.com slash how much? I think it's basically just a pricing thing. Once you've determined your rate, you can click on what type of project it is, enter the hours that you intend to work and your hourly rate, and then you go through a set of questions and eventually it gets you to some numbers for what you should charge.  It gives you the low end, which is basically just hours times your rate, and then it gives you the higher end, which you can kind of determine it from there. It's the new school, and new is actually new.com. Sorry about that. Yeah, sorry. I think slash how much? Define your process, and this is a good thing, just for the purposes of documenting things when you're starting up, define a process for yourself, and stick to it, but have some flexibility on that. Dealing with any client, and never going to be the same between people, so you're not... Everybody's different, and everybody's going to need to be talked to, dealt with, handled differently. I mean, everybody wants different things and expects different things, so be flexible with your process, but definitely have something in place for you to stick to. And then proceed. Register your business. Create your website if you haven't already. Get your buddies, so that people can see your work, and promote. Promote everything. Get on social media, blog, all that stuff. You got to promote. Failure is the key to success, and I know this, because I failed a bunch of times. Unfortunately, however, I am here today talking a talk on how to freelance for WordPress. Though I wouldn't say that that's a successful thing, because maybe I'm not successful on it. But I'm doing okay. Failure leads to success, and in order to succeed, one must fail. Not necessarily. I mean, you could have some success immediately, but you're always going to have failures along the way. It's definitely the key to success, and it's okay to fail. I know this. Like I said, I failed a bunch of times. But you have to accept it. You have to move on. You have to learn from it. And every failure, at least what I've done up until this point, when I have failed, I've written it down so that I can remember it in the future, and always remember to not go back to that point. And I feel like that, that's a good thing to do if you're not doing it already. Learning the hard way. I learned the hard way. It can be tough, but sometimes that's how you have to learn to be a freelancer is the hard way. Like I said before, no, every client is different, and sometimes you're going to get fired by a client, or you'll feel that you failed them, and maybe that they should move on to somebody else because you haven't done what you were supposed to do as their developer or designer. So learning the hard way. Make sure you do learn from it. Pick up the pieces from there and make the necessary changes. Sometimes that's one thing that people don't do is to make the necessary changes after they failed, or they don't necessarily realize where they failed so they don't make those changes. You have to definitely, definitely see what it is that you're doing, and if you're like me, write it down and make the necessary changes so that it doesn't happen in the future.  I don't know how anybody else would feel about that, but that would be awful. Common area is a failure. Take it in and try not to make these mistakes. So whenever I first became a freelancer, I actually became a freelancer, full-time freelancer way too soon. And going full-time too soon, you'll quickly find out that you don't have enough money to do the stuff that you need to be doing, like paying your bills. And that's definitely affecting your well-being. You don't want to do that. Give it time, save up some money, find enough clients to make it to where you can be comfortable when you go full-time, and then you can build from there. We heard this quote earlier. If you build it, they will come. This is true, but not right away. You can't just put your website up there and everybody's going to be like, oh look, they could develop my website. That's definitely not how it works. It takes time, but you'll get there. Idea overload. This is definitely one that I had. I thought, man, let me buy up all these domains that I think I have ideas for. And now all these domains are just sitting there with nothing on them and I'm not sure where to go with anything. Idea overload is truly an unfortunate thing. It is where you can fail. Don't get your mind in too many places because then you won't be focused on the place that you need to be focused. Taking on too much at once, taking on too much work at one time can definitely lead to some serious failure. It'll leave you in a position where you're not able to communicate with other clients, because you can't put out what they want on time. So, don't take on too much at once and just understand what your schedule should be so that you're not overdoing it and you're not having to work 18 hours a day and just crushing yourself with constant work. And one of the major areas here is customer service. I've actually failed at this one a lot because like I said, everybody's different so dealing with them is a different thing. And it's important to be responsive, communicate. In the beginning, communication was definitely not one of my stronger areas. Customer service would have definitely not been a strong area as well and it goes together. So, definitely make sure that you are trying your best to provide the best customer service you can to your clients, potential clients. Be responsive and you will not fail in that area. How to succeed? What can you do to succeed? Success comes down to you. You got to have the right mindset. I was pretty lazy and unmotivated whenever I first became a freelancer. I would still consider myself pretty lazy and unmotivated to be honest with you, but I'm way better at managing my time and work now than I was before. And having the right mindset to get it all done is important. You can be easily distracted, especially as a freelancer, more than likely you're working at home. There's all kinds of stuff going on around you. My two little ones, two and four years old are around me all the time, making noise, playing around. So, here I am taking client calls with kids yelling in the background and but you got to do it. That's how it's working for me and I make sure that I get my work done as best I can. I have set hours for myself and whatever you need to do to make it happen, but you got to have the right mindset. Regardless, you know, I guess the position you're in definitely have the right mindset. Set expectations for yourself. I didn't set expectations for myself at the beginning. This kind of goes with goals as well, but write down your expectations. Maybe you have expectations that are in regards to how much you want to be able to make in a given month or per day. If you want to get to that point, you can kind of put that on the goals list too, but write them down, set expectations and it'll help you achieve what you're trying to achieve. Don't expect things right away if you build it, they will come, right? But not right away. Don't expect things to happen right away when you put your website up. Well, good job. Congratulations! Definitely got to keep going from there though. You got to work at it. Don't expect things to happen right away. People aren't just going to come calling. Engage with people. Attend meetups. Attend conferences. You're here at WordCamp. Talk to as many people as you can. You might find a potential client. I've found several at numerous WordCamps. I have not been to the local meetup yet, I would imagine that you could definitely find people there as well. You might even run into people where they could do some work for you if you get to that point. It's great to have stuff like this that you can come to, network, engage and potentially find clients. Or to find freelance work. I definitely did not know where to find freelance work at first. Where are they? Finding clients. Where are they? I had no idea. I was like, man, do I have to make cold calls? That would be awful. I don't want to talk to people like that. They're probably going to yell at me and hang up. My fiance, she deals with that every day. She's a physician recruiter.  Hang up. Swearing at her and then she gets the ones that are like, yeah, this sounds like a good idea. I can work with you. Where to find clients? Google it. Google is your friend. It always, well, maybe not always, but for now it will be. Google it. Craigslist ad. Believe it or not, I get a majority of my clients from Craigslist ads now because you have to pay for ads now in Craigslist. It's $5 for 30 days. I paid $5 put up an ad on Craigslist and over the course of the next week I got 20 phone calls from people about website stuff that they needed done. And just $5, that's it. That's pretty awesome. Before I had my Craigslist ads up and there was just a ton of duplicates and I got a call once a month, if that. Craigslist even before I guess would have been okay, but now there's some more potential there since it's paid. Local Chamber of Commerce I was I'm not still a member currently, but I was a member of my local Apex Chamber of Commerce. You can put your business cards in there. There's all kinds of ad and mail or opportunities for your local electric bill, your utility bill. All kinds of networking events that they have. Just stuff where you could potentially find people that want to work with you. Twitter is a great place to find potential clients if you're searching for the right terms. WordPress gigs WordPress jobs, those are a couple that I've searched on on Twitter.  You could be there to change that around for them. People are definitely tweeting about errors on their WordPress site and all that. Facebook groups, this is a good one. There's a lot of good local Facebook groups here. There's the North Carolina small business bulletin local small businesses and the Triangle. There's a bunch of Facebook groups you could go in and post on potentially find people that need a website. People are posting ads on there all the time for their own businesses and you could potentially reach out through Messenger and find a new client. Sending out flyers I've not actually done this before but I've seen friends of mine do it and it's worked for them. If you're a designer, have somebody that's a designer that could help you out with setting up or designing a flyer for you and sending that out somehow whatever works. Host a workshop, this is actually something that I haven't done before but I've had a bunch of people that I know do this they've hosted free workshops at different places and a lot of people end up showing up and then these people potentially turn into clients. Regardless of what it is you do host a SEO workshop or a copywriting workshop how to do something in WordPress anything and you'd be surprised there's going to be some people that are interested post that on social media that you're hosting your workshop everywhere that you can to get people to show up and there's some real good potential there. And lastly of course cold calls and emails if you want to get yelled at I don't necessarily want to say go ahead and make cold calls but you could definitely do some emails at least you're going to alleviate some of the yelling that way and in doing this I would say to be consistent and keep it up so don't just email somebody once and think oh they're definitely going to get back to me if you keep emailing that person you're going to be in their mind eventually and they're going to be like alright well maybe I do need some websites from this person they've annoyed me this much at this point sometimes that's the way people think I had somebody tell me that I emailed them a bunch of times and they were like I just wanted to talk to you at this point and you were really getting on my nerves so I figured I'd talk to you now they're a client of mine I don't get on their nerves anymore you don't mention LinkedIn have you used that as a... yeah absolutely LinkedIn I mean there's groups on there as well that you could definitely post in I should have put that up here but that was one of the guys I work with he did a free SEO workshop he said actually that on LinkedIn and a bunch of people responded so that's definitely another spot where you could find potential clients when you say send out flyers yes so yes you could take those flyers directly to businesses yourself you could mail them out if you especially if you're a local member if you're a member of your local chamber or you can even look them up in their directory even if you're not a member and then you can mail them out yeah what you do stuff like that yeah Vista prints a good one you could design your own and upload the design to a postcard and send it out definitely make sure if you are using them make sure you have everything placed correctly for sure so this is yeah good question you could if there's a a local small business that you could potentially talk to like a like a coffee shop or something along those lines even something like the Raleigh beer garden you could talk to them and see if you're able to host some sort of workshop because for them I mean that brings a little bit of business their way and in most cases they'd be happy to have such an event at their place that's another good one, yeah library and here's kind of my continued portion of the finding clients here's some links these are some good twitter searches for wordpress jobs jobs.wordpress WP hired I actually created a site that it's basically just an RSS feed of a bunch of different jobs and development design and all kinds of stuff all remote for the most part there's some that might not be but it's just kind of all in one place obviously word camps like I mentioned before local meetups and other meetups even that aren't wordpress related whatsoever you could definitely find some potential clients digital creative leads it's a website but it pulls in a bunch of different jobs from different job sites including the two that are actually at the top speaking in that same area actually the in apex every year they have festivals during the summer the pig fest the peak fest and they have businesses set up at all of those usually and you can go around and hand out business cards of people and talk to them and potentially find clients there as well a lot of people at the peak fest definitely have Etsy stores already and maybe they're looking to make a move over so financing tools these are some things that I use or have used some good tools to kind of be your own everything you can do it all by yourself you can register your business using legal zoom which is what I did it's really easy proposals and contracts and invoicing I use and co it's a service by Fiber it's free they basically you can create a contract and proposal you can set it up so there's a payment upon signing and they automatically generate that invoice and then you can generate an invoice at the end that will send out the rest of the payment it's really great and you don't have to pay to sign up wave is another good accounting accounting platform that's also I can't say free they you know credit card charges you're always going to get I think it's like 2.9% plus 30 cents or something like that shake law is another one for contracts there's they have a premium one but they also have a free service where you could just create contracts on it task management again I use use and co I also I use those three really I use evernote and debuggle debuggle is really just specific task management and co you can create tasks related to all your projects if you're tracking everything in there so it's sort of an all in one and evernote everybody's like oh whatever notes just you keep notes in there honestly you can do so much with evernote it's really it's really way more you can save all kinds of stuff in there and and track it with notebooks and tags and it's definitely a great app to use and taxes I actually spoke about this earlier painless 1099 I love so much because I don't have a tax person I do my own taxes with an LLC you know you can claim that that's your claim that on your personal income tax with painless 1099 it takes out you route your money that you get paid by the client through this and it puts taxes into a savings account which it determines when you sign up or you could set your own rate for you know what you think you should be saving I set mine right now at 20 something percent to take out each time just in case you know you could set it higher just in case it's really a good service and I would definitely recommend it if you're doing your own taxes no that party of do yourself but you'll have all the money there at the end and you know say you're you don't want to do it anymore I mean you just transfer all the money out or you have access to it at all times what they use they use a bank that they kind of routed all through called Lincoln savings bank they have a routing number and an account number for you that you use and it automatically goes there before they push out whatever's left to your account yeah it's pretty awesome not just surviving but thriving thriving that's what that's what it's all about continued success thriving as a freelancer in business keep going and going the energizer bunny going and going and going ask clients for a review or a testimonial a lot of times they are happy to give out one to you especially if you've provided really good service to them going back to what stuff I said earlier that's why customer service is so key so you can get good reviews from your clients content creation this is extremely important blog you have a blog use it post as much as you possibly can about all kinds of stuff people you know whatever it is that you're doing whether it's design development SEO you know create a tutorial just post it post how to do this and you know anything anything when it comes to WordPress freelancing create tutorials create an e-book e-books are great too make them free so that your clients can potential clients can get on there and get an e-book and then hopefully they're signing up for your email list when they're trying to get that e-book and then you can eventually turn them into a client speak at conferences what I'm doing right now definitely a way to continued success hopefully laverycreative.com you can go and give me a contact shameless plug website on the bottom of your what? what's that? put your logo on the bottom put the logo on it yeah but I'd be tweaking the shit out of you if I knew your name but I forgot already that was a good point let's go back my name's Kyle Aberty there's my logo at laverycreative you know I saw a thing about don't put your logo across all your slides whenever I got an email about being a speaker which is why I actually refrained from it but now I wish I would have done it so thank you for calling me out on that yeah see that's what I was thinking I guess what would the penalty have been you don't get to speak again I don't know give current clients a referral bonus this is a good one too you know incentivize it's a good way to potentially gain more clients as well go ahead any one of those yeah those are all good possibilities definitely yeah maybe like a discount on something that they could use or discounted hourly rate maybe there you do maintenance for them and charge them a monthly you can give them a free month or something along those lines stuff like that do you recommend doing any kind of pro bono work for the sake of marketing and getting yourself out there or is that throwing good money after that I mean it's very dependent yeah that's kind of I would I'm not going to recommend that you do it one way or the other that's it can be a good thing I would say but definitely don't get caught in a place where you do too much of that be very selective in that area yes so let's see there was this website that I went to catch a fire maybe they have a lot of basically all pro bono projects and it's a lot of non-profits that aren't trying to dole out all kinds of cash to have a website you can pick up projects and create a wordpress website for them I would say if you're doing that it'd be good to already have another job going on while you're creating a pro bono website but I mean if you're able to do it and if that's something you're open to just to put in your portfolio to show people what you can do then by all means keep doing what you've been doing everything that I've said prior to this continue to do it to thrive and survive other than the failure slide don't do any of those things leave that part out do the rest avoid the things in the failure slide sustainability how to maintain it all it's a balancing act this is really important obviously this morning at our keynote that was a very good talk about kind of your overall health and just you know keep your sanity take breaks she takes naps that's great you need to unplug for a period of time and get everything off your mind it can be crazy as a freelancer especially if you're taking on a bunch of work you know try not to do that as much as you can try to set a schedule for yourself set specific hours if you need help get help there's you know no reason not to get help if you need it and it's just very important a lot of people work themselves to the bone as a freelancer constantly you know taking emails and calls all night so much about small things that they could just wait to the next day you can you can give it some time don't overload yourself don't sweat the small stuff which by the way is a book a really good book don't sweat the small stuff it's all small stuff I actually have it in my bag it's a solid book if you have my slides you can click the link that's not a referral link or anything like that by the way so I don't get anything but I just thought it was a good little plug because don't sweat the small stuff definitely I mean keep your sanity it's your mental health as a freelancer is very important what to do now where do we go from here make it happen continue everything apply everything from here hope for the best learn along the way everything that I said you know you can apply it you don't have to apply it you can learn yourself no matter what it's going to be a learning experience regardless and you're going to run into things that some people might not have run into before you'll run into things that people have and you can look up ways to figure it out or figure it out for yourself but apply it all hopefully you have some success yes sir yes it is vague intentionally because there's so many things you could search for to find different jobs and gigs that you're looking for um I mean you could type in wordpress followed by jobs gigs or careers and find a whole multitude of things so you could look up front end developer gigs jobs stuff like that it's sort of intentionally vague I don't really have anything specifically that you should be searching but it's just one potential way to sift through things and potentially find clients even if it's contracting for another design agency which I do a lot of that's most of my work right now is not even my own clients necessary I mean they are my clients I guess you could say but contracting for them is you know their developer designer whatever so there's all kinds of stuff you could find just through Google without being too specific go ahead troubleshooting um there definitely is if you go to wordpress.org and go to the plugins um go to plugins from wordpress.org and search for whatever plugin it is that you're having a problem with you really have a support link on there where somebody may or may not reply that is a plugin developer of that particular plugin just depends on what it is it could be somebody that also uses a plugin I don't that replies it has an answer but you could go there um the wordpress stack exchange though I don't know I don't think you can do third party questions on there for plugins and themes but yes there is that's right I have the triangle wordpress has a slack channel yeah serverfalts.com let's see here actually I'll show you at the happiness bar that would be a better way to go about this yeah no worries um well the guy that I talked to that had the webs.com problem was one I think that was in small business ads where I posted that but you could get any multitude of things it really just depends on the title of your ad is important what you provide that way you'll get those specific things but you might potentially get something completely out of the ordinary my ad didn't say anything about webs.com but that's what I got but I was open to it and I helped him out so I would just say continue to stick to your guns you know definitely keep I mean unless you're unless you're trying to charge something through the roof or something like that but you know I don't even know what would be I mean it's really all on how you value your time I would just continue to stick with it and you know dig your feet in and keep it going I mean I wouldn't I'm not going to recommend against them there's you know there's a lot of situations in some of those where maybe people are definitely undercharging a ton so that could cut you out but at the same time if you build a good you know if you build a good portfolio on there potential definitely it's a good you have to like pay for more chances to submit proposals stuff like that honestly I've never used any of those so I couldn't really tell you one way or the other with Fiverr or you know the Freelancer stuff like that but when I was I spoke at WordCamp Wilmington on a similar topic it was becoming a WordPress Freelancer and one of the people in there she is a designer and she got a lot of really good business from one of those sites I can't remember which one exactly but she just went through the process of taking you know whatever tests that they had on there and you know was able to show that had a couple of clients that came to her through the proposals that she submitted and then they eventually just turned into regular regular clients and she wasn't charging something completely low either you know she was she had a good you know she stuck to her guns on her rate instead of lowering it significantly to try and get business and she ended up doing well I mean I was working as a developer for about two years before I decided to take freelancing full-time and at this point I was entirely self-taught and I felt pretty confident that I could go off and do my own thing and I would say right out the gate I definitely wasn't charging enough obviously but I would say about four or so months then I realized that I should definitely be charging a lot more than I was without question yes definitely yeah right up front it's really dependent on I guess your business model you know I've worked with companies where they've charged a monthly price and for websites stuff like that and I can't remember what that was exactly but they charged monthly and clients were okay with that because they didn't have to shell out a bunch of money right right off the bat or you know um but yeah yeah yeah then yeah and contracts at that point would be really important as well so 100% yeah that's definitely one of the keys for sure to be in a freelancer is recurring income no doubt providing some sort of support slash maintenance plan for wordpress websites you know even as simple as keeping things up to date fixing any issues that come about and having backups and security and stuff like that you know people will definitely pay just for those things so on a monthly basis well that that's going to be for you to decide I would say but there are plenty that you're going to want to avoid I'm sure um I can't I can't pinpoint anyone yeah it's kind of tough if they're I would say if they're starting off trying to get your rate lower you know you might want to raise a red flag then um if right out the gate they're calling you a million times a day or sending you emails wanting this that and the other depending on how that situation is unfolding that could potentially be a red flag as well yeah yeah definitely yeah extremes are what you want a red flag yeah that's a that's a fun situation um you know content's always an issue but uh Alisa who was in here before she said that she gets the content you know upfront and puts it all in and designs around that so yeah well no matter what you should you should definitely have a you should have an upfront payment no matter what but yeah yeah well you know the contract is done yeah I mean you should definitely there shouldn't um yeah depending on the situation but definitely you shouldn't be putting yourself in a situation where it's like you know money back you know they paid for they paid for what you provided thus far and you know if they want out at that point then that's unfortunate but you know it's a loss for them I do not actually completely organic for me I don't I don't pay anything or anything like that I don't have an S yeah real quick I think we have like a real quick minute go ahead not necessarily I do both I charge hourly and I charge per project it's just dependent on what it is for stuff like a full-blown custom website I'm definitely gonna charge a project rate flat project rate and they'll pay an advantage up front and then at the end before shipping their website and then for hourly stuff it's well yeah you should define you know milestones within your projects so that way they have something to go by and they can get you stuff I think that's all we got so thank you