The tables turned. An evening scene by William Wordsworth. Read for LibriVox.org by Brenda J. Davis. Up! Up, my friend, and quit your books, or surely you'll grow double! Up! Up, my friend, and clear your looks! Why all this toil and trouble? The sun, above the mountain's head, a freshening, luster mellow, through all the long green fields, has spread his first sweet evening yellow, to his dull and endless strife. Come, hear the woodland linnet, how sweet his music! On my life there's more of wisdom in it. How blithe the throsel sings. He too is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth, our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom, breathed by health, truth, breathed by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal wood may teach you more of man, of moral evil, and of good than all the sages can. Sweet is the lore which nature brings. Our meddling intellect meshaves the beauteous forms of things we murder to dissect. Enough of science and of art. Close those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives. End of poem. This recording is in the public domain. The sun above the mountain's head, a freshening luster mellow, through all the long green fields, has spread his first sweet evening yellow. Books, tis a dull and endless strife. Come, hear the woodland linnet, how sweet his music! On my life there's more of wisdom in it. And hark how blithe the thrussel sings. He too is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth, our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health, truth breathed by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal wood may teach you more of man, of moral evil, and of good than all the sages can. Sweet is the lore which nature brings, our meddling intellect misshapes the beauteous forms of things we murder to dissect. Enough of science and of art. Close up those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives. End of poem. This recording is in the public domain. The tables turned. An evening seen by William Wordsworth, read for LibriVox.org by Chad Horner from Ballyclair in County Andrew, Northern Ireland, situated in the northeast of the island of Ireland. Up, up, my friend, and quit your books, or surely you'll grow double. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks, why all this toil and trouble. The sun above the mountain's head, a freshening luster mellow, through all the long-green fields, has spread his first sweet evening yellow. Books, tis a dull and endless strife. Come, hear the woodland linnet. How sweet his music, on my life, there's more of wisdom in it, and hark, how blithe the throttle sings. He too is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things. Let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth, our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health, truth breathed by cheerfulness. One pulse from a vernal wood may teach you more of man, of moral evil and of good, than all the sages can. Sweet is the lure which nature brings. Our meddling intellect misshapes the beauteous forms of things. We murder to dissect enough of science and of art. Close up those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives. End of poem, this recording is in the public domain. The tables turned. An evening scene by William Wordsworth, read for LibriVox.org by Cornel Marius Nemesh in Reno, Nevada. Up, up, my friend, and quit your books, or surely you'll grow double. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks. Why all this toil and trouble? The sun above the mountains had a freshening, luster mellow through all the long green fields has spread. His first sweet evening yellow. Books tease a dull and endless drive. Come, hear the woodland linnet, how sweet his music. On my life there is more of wisdom in it. And hark, how blight the trussel sings. He too is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things. Let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth. Our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom bred by health. Truth bred by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal wood may pitch you more of man of moral evil and of good than all the sages can. Sweet is the lore which nature brings. Our meddling intellect misshaves the beautiest forms of things. We murder to dissect. Enough of science and of art. Close up those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives. End of poem. This recording is in the public domain. The tables turned. An evening scene by William Wordsworth. Read for LibriVox.org by Cornel Nemes in Reno, Nevada. Up, up, my friend, and quit your books, or surely you'll grow double. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks. Why all this toil and trouble? The sun above the mountain's head, a freshening luster mellow through all the long green fields has spread. His first sweet evening yellow. Books, tis a dull and endless strife. Come, hear the woodland linnet. How sweet his music. On my life there's more of wisdom in it. And hark, how blithe the trossel sings. He, too, is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things. Let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth. Our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health. Truth breathed by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal wood may teach you more of man, of moral evil and of good than all the sages can. Sweet is the lore which nature brings. Our meddling intellect misshapes the beautiest forms of things. We murder to dissect. Enough of science and of art. Close up those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives end of poem. This recording is in the public domain. The tables turned. An evening scene by William Wordsworth. Read for LibriVox.org by Garth Burton. Up, up, my friend, and quit your books, or surely you'll grow double. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks while this toil and trouble. The sun, above the mountain's head, a freshening luster mellow, through all the long green fields, has spread his first sweet evening yellow. Books. Tis a dull and endless strife. Come, hear the woodland linnet. How sweet his music. On my life there's more of wisdom in it. And Hark, how blithe the throttle sings. He, too, is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things. Let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth. Our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health. Truth breathed by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal wood may teach you more of man, of mole evil, and of good, than all the sages can. Sweet is the law which nature brings. Our meddling intellect misshapes the beautiest forms of things. We murder to dissect. Enough of science and of art. Close up those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives. End of poem. This recording is in the public domain. Up, up, my friend, and quit your books, or surely you'll grow double. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks. Why all this toil and trouble? The sun above the mountain's head, a freshening luster mellow through all the long green fields, has spread his first sweet evening yellow. Books, tis a dull and endless strife. Come hear the woodland linnet, how sweet his music. On my life there's more of wisdom in it. And hark how blithe the throsel sings. He too is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things. Let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth, our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health, truth breathed by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal wood may teach you more of man, of moral evil and of good, than all the sages can. Sweet is the law which nature brings, our meddling intellect misshapes the beautiest forms of things we murder to dissect. Enough of science and of art. Close up those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives. End of poem. This recording is in the public domain. The tables turned, an evening seen by William Wordsworth, read for LibriVox.org by Hope Force One. Up, up, my friend, and quit your books, or surely you'll grow double. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks while oil this toil and trouble. The sun above the man's head, a freshening lustre mellow. Through all the long green fields has spread his first sweet evening yellow. Books, this a dull and endless strife. Come here the woodland, Lynette.  There's more of wisdom in it. And hark how blight the truss of things. He too is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth, our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health, truth breathed by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal wood may teach you more of man, of moral, evil, end of good than all the sages can. Sweet is the love which nature brings, our meddling intellect. Me shapes the beautiful forms of things we murder to dissect. Enough of science and of art. Close up those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives. End of poem. This recording is in the public domain. The tables turned. An evening scene by William Wordsworth. Read for LibriVox.org by Ian King. Up, up, my friend, and quit your books. Or surely you'll grow double. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks. Why all this toil and trouble? The sun, above the mountain's head. A freshening luster mellow. Through all the long green fields has spread. His first sweet evening yellow. Books. It is a dull and endless strife. Come, hear the woodland lin' it. How sweet his music. On my life there's more of wisdom in it. And hark! How blithe the throttle sings. He too is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things. Let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth. Our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health. Truth breathed by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal wood may teach you more of man. Of moral evil and of good than all the sages can. Sweet is the law which nature brings. Our meddling intellect misshapes the beauteous forms of things. We murder to dissect. Enough of science and of art. Close up those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives. End of poem. This recording is in the public domain. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks. Why all this toil and trouble. The sun, above the mountain's head, a freshening luster mellow. Through all the long green fields has spread. His first sweet evening yellow. Books. It is a dull and endless strife. Come, hear the woodland lin' it. How sweet his music. On my life there's more wisdom in it. In hark, how blight the throsel sings. He too is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things. Let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth. Our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health. Truth breathed by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal wood may teach you more of man. Of moral evil and of good than all the sages can. Sweet is the lore which nature brings. Our meddling intellect misshapes the beauteous forms of things. We murder to dissect. Enough of science and of art. Close up those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives. End of poem. This recording is in the public domain. The tables turned. An evening scene by William Wordsworth. Read for LibriVox.org by Elle Wonder. Up, up, my friend, and quit your books, or surely you'll grow double. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks while all this toil and trouble. The sun above the mountain's head of freshening luster mellow through all the long green fields has spread. His first sweet evening yellow. Books to the dull and endless strife. Come, hear the woodland linnet. How sweet his music. On my life there's more of wisdom in it. And hark how blithe the throsel sings. He too is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things. Let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth. Our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health. Truth breathed by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal wood may teach you more of man, of moral evil and of good than all the sages can. Sweet is the lore which nature brings. Our meddling intellect misshapes the beautiest forms of things we murder to dissect. Enough of science and of art. Close up those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives. End of poem. This recording is in the public domain. The tables turned in evening scene by William Wordsworth. Read for LibriVox.org by Kevin S. Up, up, my friend, and quit your books or surely you'll grow double. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks. Why all this toil and trouble? The sun above the mountains had a freshening, luster mellow through all the long green fields his spread. His first sweet evening, yellow. Books, tis a dull and endless strife. Come hear the woodland linen.  There is no more of wisdom in it. In hark how blithe the throttle sings. He too is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things. Let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth, our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health. Truth breathed by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal wood may teach you more of man, of moral evil and of good than all the sages can. Sweet is the lore which nature brings our meddling intellect. Mishapes the beautyous forms of things. We murder to dissect. Enough of science and of art. Close up those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives. End of poem. This recording is in the public domain. The Tables Turned. An Evening Seen by William Wordsworth. Read for Librabox.org by Larry Wilson. Up, up, my friend, and quit your books, or surely you'll grow double. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks. Why all this toil and trouble? The sun above the mountain's head, a freshening luster mellow, through all the long green fields has spread his first sweet evening yell. Books, tis a dull and endless strife. Come, hear the woodland linnet, how sweet his music. On my life there's more of wisdom in it. And heart, how blithe the throsel sings, he too is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things, let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth, our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health, truth breathed by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal wood may teach you more of man, of moral evil and good, than all the sages can. Sweet is the lore which nature brings. Our meddling intellect misshapes the beautiest forms of things. We murder to dissect. Enough of science and of art. Close up those barren leaves. Come forth and bring with you a heart that watches and receives. End of poem. This recording is in the public domain. The tables turned, an evening scene by William Wordsworth. Read for LibriVox.org by Maya. Up, up, my friend, and quit your books. Or surely you grow double. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks. Why? All just toil and trouble. The sun above the mountain's head. A freshly luster mellow. Through all the long green fields has spread, his first sweet evening yellow. 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An evening scene by William Wordsworth. Read for LibriVox.org by товарищ. Up, up, my friend, and quit your books. Oh, surely you'll grow double. Up, up, my friend, and clear your looks. Why all this toil and trouble? The sun above the mountain's head, a freshening luster mellow, through all the long green fields has spread. His first sweet evening yellow. Books, tis a dull and endless strife. Come, hear the woodland linnet. How sweet his music. On my life there's more of wisdom in it. And hark how blithe the throsal sings. He too is no mean preacher. Come forth into the light of things. Let nature be your teacher. She has a world of ready wealth, our minds and hearts to bless. Spontaneous wisdom breathed by health, truth breathed by cheerfulness. One impulse from a vernal word may teach you more of man of moral evil and of good than all the sages can. Sweet is the law which nature brings. Our meddling intellect misshapes the beauty's forms of things we murder to dissect. 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Everybody forced here ripping 2021 top scroll Platinum anniversary baseball hobby six blocks number 16 random teams Here are your results. Thanks everybody for joining Good luck on the break. There's a link in chat for these and you can always find them on the websites One sec. Let me check you two in the first one Mason two in number three man Rockies your fractured Daniel Bard Rose gold wave Rose gold and gold wave rookie A's James Caprilli in the 50 the national is at the end of this month Aqua wave A's Jose Conceco refractor cubs scary Matthews He what he did play for the Red Sox at some point illegal Definitely got better after his time with the Red Sox Platinum wave Roy Oswald's Phillies auto number to 70 and I said Phillies and there we go July 28 33 31st in Atlantic City Giants refractor Buster Posey. They should just have the national Orlando. He got tons of hotel and convention space here Yankees refractor rookie Albert Abreu X-Fractor Dodgers Tommy Lasorda blue mini diamonds Red Sox Roger Clemens to 199. Yeah, I believe so Brennan. I don't know the extent of everything though Yankees refractor Babe Ruth rich has been pretty busy recently I don't think I've seen rich in person. I'm like a couple weeks Maybe he's just here in days and I'm not Tiger's rookie refractor Kyle Funkhouser. Yeah, it'll be announced fairly soon. I would imagine Or at least an idea of what's gonna go on. But yeah, we'll have we'll have some form of similar to what we what we did last year, you know Like national break promos and things like that. Yes. He will legal Red atomic A's catfish hunter to 100. I'm not sure. I know so we got braves refractor John Smoltz I know since we're taking a smaller group with us at the national, we're not gonna be breaking it We're gonna be doing like, you know flawless nt type things things that are like low card count Hits and things like that Uh, but we'll also have I think Brad will be breaking here. Um, I'm not sure who else so I'm not quite sure exactly how it's gonna work this year refractor Dodgers rookie Alex Vassia With the national yeah moves Brewer's base auto Josh Hader not numbered last year was in Chicago. I think most of times in Chicago Atlantic City this year Vegas is the other Place they do it. I don't know Refractor Padres, manny machado 50 bucks by my sapphire. No, we will not be doing that at the national Maybe during I don't know. I truly do not know. That was a fun break. That was a lot of boxes, man There were some big hits in that break too from what I remember D Baxter fracture at warto eskibar extra factor pirates brian reynolds Talking to me illegal Yeah, there was a there was a few cleat relics. One of them was tautis for sure. There's a few cut autos as well There was a side young cut auto. I think in that diamond icons break Other really big cards uh rookie refractor white sox jimmy Lambert Um, I don't know last year we Stuck around and broke for a while even when like the show cleared out We would start in the morning like Brad would start at like 10 a.m. Or something or 11 a.m And then I would pick up at like five and go until like 11 Uh platinum mini diamond cardinals kwang young kim the 70 aqua wave dodgers clayton kershaw refractor yankies thurman munson So i'm not i'm not i'm not sure Yeah, last year I didn't do a whole lot in chicago except work We had some time to do stuff saturday night, but I was I was pretty tired Lane went to lane always goes to a bunch of trade nights and stuff, but it's pretty crazy the national He would get back to his hotel like four or five a.m Just out of trade night. Yeah, so maybe I'll tag along with lane a few nights Get that real experience get that real national experience Plus there's a casino nearby so you know that'll that'll be happening. Uh, yankies refractor clint frazier Braves rookie aqua wave patrick weigel The national might only have one but there's a few other people that'll host other ones at other locations Illegal from what I remember last year. It'd be like, okay, this there's a trade night at the mario There's a trade night at this one the next night refractor phillies jim bunning and it's just a bunch of uh people with sports cards, uh, basically Invading a hotel lobby or hotel bar Extractor rocky's daniel bard wall-to-wall people buying selling trading sports cards Got a louis ti aunts red sox auto that's a nice hit There you go, boston He's dominican, right Dominican legend right there, man Refractor cardinals null and aeronado Yeah, if you see lane at the show, that's lane He he talks to everybody man He knows everybody Yeah, I'm not sure where to find it I'm just I use lane as my crutch in those situations refractor, um, uh raise brandon lau Blue mini diamonds, uh raise kevin keermeyer You never been to a card show brandon? I'm sure you could find a small local one to go to Rose gold mini diamonds red sox rookie tanner hout to 75 Definitely a different feel at bigger shows for sure phillies refractor archie bradley We have one here in a popka that um sometimes gets pretty busy, but most of time it's like 20-ish table 20-ish bent dealers or so Yeah Is it at least like 20? I'd say yeah, like that's like the lowest that I think I've seen it. I've been I think twice But yeah, I hear it's getting busier refractor rookie nats louis garcia That's good that building can't handle much more people That is true, dude, I've gone in there and it's not that busy and I'm like I can't move To the other side of the room currently It's good for a small show. They're like they do a pretty good job It's welcoming and most of the dealers are cool Colorado's got nothing that stinks man Yeah, I was gonna say you might be able to go to like a neighboring place Yellow orange rafael for call braves to 25 Oh geez that stinks blimmer. Yeah, that sucks, man. We actually We have a pretty decent one. I think there's some others that happen in orlando But I think a popka might be the biggest in orlando refractor giants brandon crofford at least that happens It's like it was a tri-weekly now. Yeah, okay. Is that might be why it's so much busier used to be bi-weekly I think that may have like slowed traffic a bit Tri-weekly that average And yeah, especially on like Saturday Friday nights, I feel like it's not so bad But I've never been on friday night yellow green matt carpenter cardinals tonight. I love this dude is so good Well, what is he doing? What is he doing? geez I'm pretty sure denver has a pretty pretty sizable show every now and then right got refractor cardinals whitey herzog I feel like I've heard that before lane would know but I can't just ask lane a question about shows every time one comes up, you know blue prism auto giants mikey estremeski 1099 It must be cool to have autos in the same product that your grandfather would have an auto in Or even like sibling or father or something. That's just gotta be pretty cool Refractor white socks.  I'm sure he got a few talking twos He apologized and like obviously he's like whenever he broke he's gonna replace but I don't think that's necessarily the point Got refractor a's berry zito.  Justin Dunn to 199 He uh, he had a pretty rough inning. I think he walked in a run And then yeah, he was uh pretty he was mad at himself. He wasn't mad at anyone I wasn't mad at himself got yellow green collar right braves to 99 Platinum any diamond wheelie maze nice one Giants to 70 That is pretty Good stuff there, man Arguably the best player ever overall, I don't know maybe Refractor rookie Phillies to Donis Medina. Yeah, regardless of how he looked Big league club needs him now. He just like threw a tantrum like Not quite in the clubhouse with the dugout like a hallway like threw a tv down and like some bats kind of fell It was pretty quick rookie braves refactor christian pache No one was really near him like really near him. So, you know No one else is in danger He is kind of a little bit of a clown to an extent I think it's more so that he's just like Scary competitive azure factor matt olson and like He doesn't do well like not succeeding. It's strange Orioles aqua wave trey mancini but I want him on the red socks. Yeah, kind of like mad bum refractor Ray's brennan mckay. I don't know clowns the right word. That sounds pretty harsh Got a melvin mora orioles base auto Cleveland refractor zack police act I yeah, that's a good way to put it on gets in his own element a lot like when those guys are Got reds refractor shogo akiyama when guys like mad bummer sailor like struggling Any little thing could just like set him off. I feel like Extractor philly's jim bunning they have like a Not so great a way of showing a motion They don't know how to show the motion Or control it sometimes Oh, come on legal. Come on now gets in his own elbow a lot. Come on now Yeah, shers are too They're just Certain starting pitchers, man. They're just they're a little different But sherser's just been nothing but great for like 12 years now refractor red socks martin pares This is like the first time he's actually missed a good amount of time in a while And he's coming back soon too Hey, man, they're gonna come back soon A subway series world series has been pretty interesting refractor cardinal stan musial Philly's base auto riz huskens Philly's refractor rookie, uh maricio louvera Cardinals aqua wave rookie seth ellage rangers refractor rouged into door Yeah, you got dodgers x fractors zach mchinistry the rookie Ashrow's blue mini diamond alex bregman to 199 refractor rookie giant showy bart White socks refractor michael copek All right, let's do a recap in one sec All right parallels here blue mini diamond alex bregman justin dunne kevin keir mayer roger clements red atomic catfish hunter yellow green Kyle right matt carpenter rose gold mini diamond tanner hulk platinum mini diamond willy mays quang yung kim uh Wave there james caprillion yellow orange rafael for call autos riz huskens melvin mora mike estremski blue prism the 199 Or a 99 sorry louis yonk for the red socks josh hater brewers And platinum wave roi oswald for the fillies. That's number to 70 There we go. That'll do it. Thanks again everybody. We've got more baseball coming up


Welcome, welcome, welcome to the Pipeline Authoring SIG. This is January 31st, and this is the revitalization of this SIG. And I'm Marky. Everybody else is online. I think we all pretty much know each other, but for anybody watching this recording, we meet weekly. It is on the community calendar. We do post a link to the meeting notes in the Pipeline Authoring SIG getter channel. So we welcome you to join. Welcome everybody. Happy Friday. We made it, barely. Some of us are just struggling to get over the finish line. I myself am one of them. All right, let me see. And I will look, oh, you wanna go ahead and share? I can be the one driving at least trying to. Beautiful. What I do ask is, can we get a note taker? That's me. That's what I mean. No, okay. Okay, perfect, perfect, perfect.  Put myself at the top, haha. No. You are the leader. Put yourself on top. Whatever. All right, so last time we were talking about what we wanted to do. We wanted to discuss. We were sort of spinning back up some of the old notes and getting sort of trying to figure out and I think we're still gonna be doing this this time what we wanna do. These were the open tasks. I don't know, Marky, I felt like you had the, actually you and Steven both had much larger tasks to do in terms of what to do this time. So did you get around to creating a persona doc or? I did not create the persona doc. We'll just pull that into that. I have it privately set up. I will have it ready for public consumption by the end of today. Oh, okay, okay. And I will share that link in the getter channel to that document. All right, let's see, yeah. All right, so all business. And Steven, how about you? Did you start thinking about this? Do you have something to talk about to sort of show us? I definitely started thinking about it. Didn't create any artifacts for it. Okay, okay. I think that actually ties into what we were talking about last time with the charter and talking about the high level grandiose vision. So yeah, I certainly have things to say, but I think it's probably gonna be a lot of the recap of what we talked about last time. We have a new perspective on the call today, so I'd be interested to hear from the Jeff thoughts too. Yeah, so I'm hearing the echo again. So if I understand correctly, I think this may be actually something I've thought a lot about. One of the problems that I'm running into in the workplaces, although the company has spent a lot of time and expertise learning Jenkins and in particular I've spent time becoming a contributor, people think that writing pipelines is hard. And so they're talking about moving to things like CircleCI or TravisCI, just because I think Jenkins is hard. And first of all, I mean, my first thing is, okay, so you're trading one set of problems for another, but the other thing is, I get asked to help a lot on pipelines and a lot of the things people are complaining about are of their own making. They create like these monstrous, you know, multi-level libraries and things that are hard to understand. People leave and nobody knows how to work them. So I've been trying to think of ways to guide people to making that easier. Is that kind of under the charter of this group or am I misinterpreting? No, I think that's fair in this. Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, no, that's exactly what we're, and partly we're trying to figure out what our charter is and how much we wanna take on, but that sounds square in the middle of, yeah, how do we make it easier, right? So my personal thing is to make it less likely that people will want to leave Jenkins just because they perceive it as harder than it is. Right, and I think we were talking, I mentioned last time, one of my things is like, hey, can we make that on-ramp smoother so that people don't think Jenkins is hard? Now, the weird thing is, now, I don't know if you've seen this happen, but like I find that, like, yes, CircleCI is like, oh, it's super easy, and then they start trying to do things and they can't. The issue is that we sort of, Jenkins as a whole sort of throws all the complexity at you at once, and so you end up feeling like it's harder than the other thing, but the other thing is just as hard once you try to do the thing that you're trying to do. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like not a level graph when you talk about complexity to ease, right? With Jenkins, it gets easier as your, you have more complex situations and that's where Jenkins starts to shine, right? CircleCI or Travis might be ideal if your pipeline is run one command or something, but the second you need to start interacting with external resources or dealing with multi-component applications, that's when Jenkins starts to really shine. So that's on-ramp that we talked about last time, like digging into that a little bit. I'd be curious what you think the, sort of the beginner level steps to that on-ramp bar, like what's the most basic pipeline you could introduce someone to, to show them how Jenkins works and what are the step functions to build up that complexity? Right, I think a lot of the time, I think a lot of the time the challenge is that people don't have a good mental model for how Jenkins works or how pipelines work. So when you throw them into it at the beginning, they sort of feel like they have to know how to code and they have to understand what steps are available and how to figure out the syntax for them and there's all these challenges. So it's really about like, how do we help them build that mental model and then what are the steps in complexity to introduce people to in what order so that they gradually get more familiar with it? So one of the suggestions that one of my old managers had that he thought would make Jenkins easier is if there was a set of samples for building different types of things and maybe there is, but like, if you could go somewhere to a repository or some documentation and it says, okay, if you want to build an NPM project, here's what you do. If you want to build a Go project, here's what you do. If you want to build Java, here's what you do. And as a starting point, he felt like Travis in particular does a good job with that. And I did, when I looked at Travis, they did seem to have a lot of documentation around how to just do basic things. I know there's a, go ahead. No, no, go ahead, Marquis. I know that in the other SIGs, especially the doc SIG, they're doing a lot of work in refining the docs are, how the docs are laid out. One of the examples you gave, for example, like NPM, how to build a sample NPM project. And there is an actual documentation on how to do that. I think what happens is most users will come in at a beginning level and do these beginning sample steps, but quickly go to intermediate. And there's no good handoff documentation wise to show how to go from beginner to intermediate. Okay, great. I can now set up a basic NPM project, but now how do I add things to that project? There's no good way to do that handoff. And I find, especially in a lot of the questions that get asked in Gitter, that's what's happening. Like, oh, okay, I followed this, but now I need to do this. And then that, and I think, I think everybody kind of knows what specific example I'm using, but what would you say to that, Lin? Sorry, I was laughing because I'm thinking of this happens all the time. So you have the on-ramp and it's basically just like the movie speed, right? Here's the on-ramp. Oh, it's missing this middle section. You have to jump the bus across. And who knows how you do that, right? Well played, well played. Yeah, right. Sorry, you'll see me laughing like that all the time. I mean, so I've had to write a lot of learning labs for various frameworks that I'll maintain. And what I'm finding is that people will walk step-by-step through documentation to get something minimal working without pausing to understand the steps of what's going on, right? And then they get to an end of it and they have something that works, but they didn't actually learn the basics that the documentation was trying to teach you, right? So whenever you have copy and pasteable working examples, people copy and paste. So maybe it involves restructuring the docs so that you explain a step and a syntax. Maybe you hide the end result of what's going to get copied and pasted and encourage people to actually build it themselves with a fallback of if you're stuck, here's the working solution. But if someone sees something they can copy and paste, they're gonna copy and paste it and then figure out how to modify that, right? Which speaks to the fact that people are struggling to build mental models because they don't understand yet how all the pieces they copied are actually working together. I'm wondering if it makes sense in future meetings to actually maybe skip, like maybe do one meeting a month where we do like a walkthrough and encourage people to come like, hey, we're going to show you how to build a go job and a pipeline. And I bet you we would get a lot of people that would come to that. We could even do that as that. I think I like that idea. I think we should, maybe this group can sort of do that a little bit. I don't know that we're trying to get a ton of people into the SIG meetings exactly. I think that would be something that we would sort of like, okay, let's run through this together and see how that works. And then have one of us go to the, like go do a, sorry Jenkins on my meetup or something where you actually have, and then run through that again, right? For a larger just audience, here's the example, right? But having this group's like be part of the engine that generates the docs that we're talking about, seems great to me. And yes, having a video would be great. I think it'd be really interesting to find someone that's looking for that help and have them go through it with us sort of watching. Like I would wanna see what approaches are they taking to doing it and where are they getting stuck? Right, if we're talking about this from like a user-centered design perspective and we wanna do interviews with our stakeholders, like we're almost too familiar with it to know what knowledge we take for granted, right? So seeing a beginner tried to work through it would probably show us a lot more about what the challenges actually are. That's a really good idea, right? And you're exactly right. I mean, I've been using Jenkins for so much that I probably can no longer judge what's hard about it, right? I just know that people find it hard. And that'd be great data. I'm also wondering, I know one of the things that we talked about in our last meeting, which would be good towards personas and the charter is to get a survey out and to really start to get a pulse on what the community is having. And you know what? I'll tell you what, you could put an action item for me. I will draft up a survey and then I'll give it to the team to look at and we can see what's good and send something out. I think that will be really good too, to start getting the pulse on the community. I like that idea. I want to kind of drill in to the specific information we want to get from it. Do you like what parts of Jenkins are hard? Well, what are your thoughts? Well, I would like the survey to be centered around pipeline and specifically using the pipeline because at least one of the goals that I have for this SIG is to start to be able to generate items that people are able to use and find value. And that's something where we're trying to help author for them. So I would love to be able to have data to know that we're working in the right direction and not just it's for people who know Jenkins really well. We take advantage of some of the things that we find hard that other people may find that's completely out of the realm of my thought. Okay. And so that's something we would post. Where would we post that, like the dev list or? So that's a good point. I mean, we've had surveys for Jenkins as a whole. And one of the general things with Jenkins is that the vast majority of users are silent. And there isn't really an easy way to engage with them. So. Yeah, like if we had to break down a pie chart of the challenges that people are hitting, how frequently is it that they misunderstood the pipeline syntax versus an infrastructure related problem of they're trying to do something with node but their build agent doesn't have node installed? Or like in my experience, a lot of the challenges people are running to are more platform related than actual pipeline code related. Have you guys had a similar experience? So I kind of, I see two things. I do see that a lot.  Well, Jenkins just runs tasks, no Jenkins isn't broken, you're misconfigured. The other thing I see is people not really understanding all of the things that Jenkins has to offer. Like I see people instead of using credentials, they have an environment variable that has user and password in it and their jobs. They just don't know that credentials exist. They write code to make REST calls to Slack because they don't know the Slack plugin exists or they don't, or they just like, they build infrastructure around sending Slack messages when the plugin can do that. Those are just a couple of examples I've been collecting on. Somebody was like using Curl to do REST things because they didn't know that there was a plugin that lets, so a lot of us just, people just not knowing what's available. And I don't know either, but when I want to do something new, the first place I look is the plugins for the plugin site. So just people just- As a maintainer? As a maintainer of plugins, I have a love-hate relationship with plugins. Uh-huh. And to touch on what you're talking about, Jeff, the reason that I do is I find, and especially with your Slack example you gave because I've had this happen. Uh-huh. There's a reliance on a plugin and I think a lot of people don't understand that that plugin is maintained by volunteers. Yeah. And that means it may not be up to date. So I have found that in my personal professional dealings that I like to write something out code wise and not rely on a plugin every time, mainly because if the plugin fails for some reason and people have gotten used to the functionality, I need to be able to give that back to them. Interesting. And not have to go write code for that plugin. So a good example would be the durable task and how that sometimes breaks the Docker agent. So using a Docker file, and I think the 1.33 version has fixed that, but in the 1.32 I had a full community that could not use agent Docker file. And so now they had to resort back to using native Docker commands in their Jenkins file. Gotcha. To watch the complexity of people that were just struggling to write these things natively because they had relied on a plugin for so long and it was doing these things for them under the hood was a real good lesson for me to say, well, plugins are great. We also have to make sure our community understands how to not use a plugin because there may be a time that they need to do that. Did that make any sense? What I said? Yeah, no, as someone who's maintained a Jenkins instance 14 like that, that's exactly the same philosophy that I ended up with where it was like, okay, I could do this with the plugin, but because of where we're at, I'm not going to because I need this feature or I need people to actually know how this works or I need to know how I need to have more control over it. I had a conversation with you this week, Liam, about something where I was like, I could use a plugin to do this and I might be able to, but if that goes south, I have to be able to know how to do this natively without that plugin. Yeah, but part of it too is not just the fact that they're doing it outside of the plugin, but if you set programmers that know a little bit of groovy to the task, they just create these monstrous hierarchies of infrastructure around something that could be one line.  They're over-engineering. Well, that goes also to- Being an interesting channel to do like SIG oops, like we find those examples and we walk through how to maybe refactor it to be a little bit easier. Yeah. I'm still going to start using that hashtag now SIG oops. I wonder if that domain is available. I'm sure it is because it basically looks like a typo. So going back to the charter and the personas and thoughts about doing something like that, I think before we can do a charter, we have to have the personas because the charter has got to be based on that. Okay. Did you guys discuss last time like how many personas you want and what sort of what different levels they'd be? Or is that still open? That's still open partly because I think at least for my part, I basically wanted, I was waiting, I figured Marky could do a bunch of work and then I could just come in and be super mean about it. I like it. Yeah, that's nice work, man. We're just going to, So, no, but I kind of like, I work better when someone else sort of says here, like even, even a slap on the slap, the paint on the wall kind of thing. And then we can kind of discuss from there. That was my, that was my intent. No, I think it's a good one. I will have the personas initial draft of personas published today. Okay. I didn't like it. I'll have it in a document. Yeah. And even if you, even if you don't feel like it's in great shape, it's better to just have something that we can sort of play around with. Agreed. Agreed. That'll be out today. Okay. I won't even worry about putting that on here. That's the thing. Put that in there. Nope. I started to write it and didn't get to it. Okay. Actually, no, it's in, there it is. Cool. Um, so, and I think those personas are probably also, we'll also tune what we'll want to do for survey questions. Right. Agreed. Can you also change the persona owner to me? Oops. See groups. Yeah. By the way, see groups.com is available. It can be yours for 1199 the first year. Alrighty. I'll pass though. Okay. Um, I'll pass though. Okay. Let's see here. What else? Uh, so just as long as we're chatting. Um, So Jeff, you're talking about the, the sort of the crazy. Groovy things. This is one example of, of. I wonder whether or not moving, moving, not moving, but basically providing people with a YAML version of the, the declarative syntax. Would, would make them think more in terms of, think less in terms of it being groovy, but I don't know that that would help because we're still, we still have shared libraries where it's like, Oh, you can do this thing. And it could. I mean, I was actually hoping that declarative would, would solve some of these problems, but unfortunately it, it doesn't really because you're still able to do fancy things in it. Scripted. But, but yeah, putting in YAML, maybe. Well, the YAML would make people really think about it as not. Groovy, right? Um, Maybe. Yeah. Maybe the. I'm not taking notes of this, but maybe the other thing that might be interesting to do is, um, So we have shared libraries and people aren't clear that they occur on. That they run on your master. And they, they take up resources there. Um, Most of what people do in that context. Is. Could be done anywhere. Right. Like if you're talking about, Hey, I'm, I, I'm going to write myself a slack. Step. Right. Um, there's no need. For. For that to happen on master. It could happen anywhere. Right. As long as you. As long as you pass the right information, um, Then, then, then you're fine. Is that fair? So, so I didn't actually know that. So every, All code in a shared library runs on the master. Yep. Um, Everything that's not in a specifically in a step. Um, that, or specifically in a step that, that is, That is designed to run on the agent. Is running on master. Okay. It's running in a sandbox on master, but it's running. It's, that's why we have the security plugins and all these, Some of these other things where it's like, you, You, in order to sandbox this work, You have to do all this work to get it to. Um, Sort of be able to run in. Process, but not have access to everything. What, what, what sort of ties into the idea. Uh, I was just going to say that kind of ties into the idea of like a static code analysis for your pipelines. Which would be a pretty. Uh, easy thought, never the right word, but a simpler check than others to see if it's encapsulated within another. Um, So, When you have like distributed files, right now it's, You don't know where that method is being called from or, Or something like that. Actually, maybe you're not clear on this. Just because you're inside a node block doesn't mean your code is running on the, on, on the agent. That's fair. What prevents it from, What prevents it from running on the agent though? I want to make sure I understand this. There's nothing that specifically prevents it, but the, Hmm. Historically, maybe it's the way to say this, uh, the way that, that people have treated this is that like, Oh, so I'm running this code. So I have access to, For instance, credentials and all these are the things. Right. All the things that are in that are on the Jenkins master. Including like, Oh, hey, what other jobs are running?  Most of the time people don't think about it.  And they think, Well, obviously that's running on the nodes. Like no, it's not. It's not running on the agent. It's running in master.  The worst of all possible worlds. Exactly. So there's nothing, There's nothing that specifically stops it except for. The hundred million gotchas. That about around assumptions, right? About like, Oh, I'm going to run this thing. And I expect that this variable that I, that I declared at the top of my pipeline is going to be there. Well, it wouldn't be there if it was running on, on the agent. Unless we do some, some degree of marshaling.  Right. But, but you can have shared groovy that experience. Right.  Does does that actually end up running on the agent? They must. It basically it's a step that returns a pipeline. I'm not sure. So some of it has to, because it, it runs on like, Yeah, yeah. So basically the Jenkins file for most of the plugins just has one like one line in it that says build build plugin. I think it is. Oh, okay. So that's not a step though. That's, that's a shared library that calls that is still running on master. Eventually there's that that that turn if I want if you want to go pull that up but basically that that is that's a shared library method. And then that gets called and then that runs some some code and eventually that calls some steps that do like something on agents, right, but okay, maybe it's worth. Am I, we might be getting a little in the conversation. Yeah, yeah. So my, my, my reason why I'm at the reason what I was going for here was like, most of the stuff you think is running on the agent is not. And, and some of the insanity that we could we might be able to address some of that insanity by saying, Okay, everything inside this block is going to be run on the agent and that, or, or something right and it doesn't have to be groovy. Right. In fact, I'm certainly saying we're not going to do it in groovy we're going to say, you know, anything inside here goes on to an agent and have some way of transferring, you know, the little bit of data that people usually want between those two things. It's too far a field, but it's, I guess, you're talking about crazy groovy scripts and got me thinking about yeah, we got people off the end of that odd ramp. So I can, I can give you another example of crazy groovy libraries. So I was on reverse engineering a pipeline that one of our mobile apps uses that it wasn't working at uses a bunch of shared libraries and I started like digging into it and putting several layers in that uploaded code coverage to a confluence page for another app. So, so every time you ran any, any Android build or iOS build that that usually shares what shared libraries it would contribute code coverage to a specific app even though it was a different app. And that happened because the team that owned the app that was doing code coverage they said oh well we'll put it in the shared library even though that that's was used by everybody. And it happened because I think somebody copied their pipeline is like oh this is working I'll just copy this pipeline. And so that's kind of the sorts of things that that I mean with these like, like crazy groovy libraries is just you just, I've seen cases where you just don't know what's going on unless you dig into it which takes a lot of time and I I want to encourage people not to do that. That might be outside of the scope of this group might just be my personal. Well, maybe but I mean this, it goes to the heart of the problem, at least one of the problems that you're talking about is being hard to use and then also like how it. What can we do to make it so that people know that there's a better way. I guess the source of the problem was that people were copying this pipeline because they thought Jenkins was hard to use so so I'll just copy this working pipeline. And they didn't understand what it was doing. So, maybe that becomes one of the personas, you know, I, I do not know. I know this sounds, this just sound wrong and I don't mean it this way but for lack of better phrasing, I do not know how to use groovy and I need to build a pipeline. And I'm going to copy something or something around those lines. I do like I think it's absolute. Yeah, I like the idea that Steve. I don't think that sounds bad. Right. I think that's our engineer's work. Right. I mean, seriously, when we don't know how to do something, we find an example and we try to augment it. Well, but the problem with that is, I think one of the things that I'm going to speak for myself, I won't speak or generalized. But one of the things that I do is if I go and I copy something, I'm only using that as a vehicle of under for understanding. So I like to try to unlike you were saying Stephen, I personally like to try to understand what is happening with what I'm looking at or why it's doing this and how it's doing it because essentially, I want the knowledge to build my own thing and not just take somebody's, but I think that's been that speaks to a larger problem that you the user community does not have a granular understanding of how to do certain things with the pipeline. So they copy and they don't understand and it gets them into problems.  They may not want to understand that. I mean, it may just be I got to use this to build my thing.  So I can go back to coding. Yeah. The part that is making that difficult is because companies are especially competitors with paid products are attacking open source as Jenkins is the problem when it truly a they shouldn't be attacking attacking open source, but that's their marketing arm. And I get it. Yeah. What they're using Jenkins as a crutch, really, when it's not, it's the lack of understanding on how to do something. I think I'm going to go a step further and say that like the vast majority of consumers of pipeline shouldn't have to understand how Jenkins works, right? So when you get, when you get to a specific scale at some point, you have a centralized team that helps manages for people and it really becomes how do I configure my pipeline instead of build it? So there's definitely a significant portion of the community that's probably represented in one of our personas that do not need to know how Jenkins works. They don't need to know how to consume the pipeline and maybe configure it with certain parameters or different libraries or whatever. But I don't think our goal of this thing is to make everyone become an expert in Jenkins, because most people don't have to be. Well, I think we also find what an expert is. Right. What do we define as an expert? And I think that that speaks to what you're describing, Stephen, is we for pipeline authoring have to make it easy enough so that the persona of expert who knows how to write groovy code can consume it. And the persona of expert who just needs to be able to tweak or configure or just consume what is already there. By the way, can we call the copy and paste off their persona, Mike? Okay. Okay, well, anyways. Copy and paste persona will be known as Mike, don't worry. Okay. I'll let him know. We have a lot that we can start building. I think one of the key things is having the personas just to get that started. I think that's where we're going to gain a lot of understanding. I think, and maybe based on the personas, but I wonder if we have like organization, organization, the life cycle of a Jenkins org, right? Of a Jenkins pipeline, right? Because you can kind of see like people start with, okay, I'm just this one person, I do this pipeline. And then like Stephen was saying, they move to having a central, you know, having a Jenkins person that does these things. And then having it gets big enough that there's an organization that now does that, right? Yeah, it's really hard to take off my plug and maintain our hat and like my life focuses around that large scale adoption side of things. So I'm trying to remember the first time I wrote a pipeline and what it was like when your scale was, you know, an individual app team. But I'm usually the devil's person supporting like 60 microservices built by different development teams across different companies like I sort of live in a different world than I'd say a lot of a lot of Jenkins users end up having to. I know it's the thing that I was where I was going with that was just that there's a this is again we're back to that on ramp where we the there's there's both a front loading of that difficulty because people like I'm a beginner. I don't know what I'm doing. Okay, I got something working copy and paste. And then we actually guide them into that scripting space that Jeff was talking about, which makes their life later on harder. Right. So sort of a there's, there's it's not just on ramp but the continued the turnpike of things like that that that path. We we seem to lead the structure of Jenkins seems to lead them in lead lead our users and pipeline authors in a direction that ends up having them fall into a pit. I have a I have a document later on. After this meeting, I'll put it in the channel. And what I think what you're describing Liam is something that we created at Yahoo. And this was called the, it's called the continuous delivery maturity model. And it talks about like what the culture and the organization is it starts it starts off like what the initial view looks like with the managed view define quantitative managed and then optimize. And then it talks about all these blocks in the lifecycle of that model. So like it stops as like teams are based on platforms and technologies, the build and release is like infrequently and unreliable manual processes and it goes through how you get to these different steps. I'll share that document because I actually have it and it's it, I think that's part of the public domain now but I think that would help because it's describing very, very much what you're talking about. And I think that the personas that we're going to generate as part of this, there's some opportunity for collaboration with big docs, right like it would be fantastic if you go to the doc site, and it's organized per by persona. So, like people of different levels are directed to different levels of in depth documentation based upon our and there are anticipation of their needs, which is never going to be perfect but might be a little bit easier than it is now. Okay, okay. Anything else that we I mean mark it seems like the personas will definitely be what we'll talk about next week. And then also that document that would be interesting for me anyways to sort of have that as a something to think about. Yeah, what I will do is I will in the notes that you have here, I will put links to them. In here, and then I'll make I'll drop a note in the channel saying I have updated the meeting minutes with the links to the, with the documents I'll have that done today. Okay, cool. So, sorry, Jeff, go ahead. Well, I wasn't saying anything. Oh, sorry. All right. Do we have anything else that we wanted to, I mean I think this is a good, a clear thing of what we're going to work on next time for next time so that's good. Yeah, I think this is really good. Is there a getter channel for for this group. Yep. Yep. Okay. I might not might or might not. We have that in here probably not. I do not see you in there Jeff. Okay, well fix that. It's pipeline authoring sake. I might be able to invite you. And I will actually I'll do that right now I'll put that at the top of the thing. Anyways, I'm going to stop sharing my screen. Okay. All right, if there but he has anything else we have action items, most of them are me. And then we'll the rest of us will pick it up and start and be ready to talk about it next time. Sounds good. We have anything else. Nope. I'm going to open a poor quest to our actual SIG site, linking the meeting notes from the website. Great. Great. That's my primary action. Cool. Yeah, thanks everybody. Awesome. Have a good week everybody. I'll see you next week and I'll see you online. Thanks.


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I got a story that'll crack this town-wide open My fellow Americans during the campaign two years ago I spoke of the need for the United States to restore the balance in our relationship with the Soviet Union For too many years we'd stood still while the Soviets increased their military strength and expanded their influence from Afghanistan to Ethiopia and beyond I Expressed a belief which you seem to share that it was time for the United States to chart a new course Since then we've embarked upon a build-up of our defense forces in order to strengthen our security and in turn to strengthen the prospects for peace We still have a long way to go But the fact that we've started on a new course has enabled us to propose the most comprehensive set of proposals for arms reduction and control In more than a quarter of a century It's always been my belief that if the Soviets knew we were serious about maintaining our security They might be more willing to negotiate seriously at the bargaining table In the near future, I'll be speaking to you in more detail about this matter of arms control and more importantly arms reductions But right now I have something in the nature of news. I'd like to bring you The balance between the United States and the Soviet Union cannot be measured in weapons and bombers alone To a large degree the strength of each nation is also based on economic strength Unfortunately, the West's economic relations with the USSR have not always served the national security goals of the alliance The Soviet Union phases serious economic problems But we and I mean all of the nations of the free world have helped the Soviets avoid some hard economic choices By providing preferential terms of trade by allowing them to acquire militarily relevant technology And by providing them a market for their energy resources even though this creates an excessive dependence on them By giving such preferential treatment we've added to our own problems Creating a situation where we have to spend more money on our own defense to keep up with Soviet capabilities Which we helped create Since taking office I have emphasized to our allies the importance of our economic as well as our political relationship with the Soviet Union In July of 1981 at the economic summit meeting in Ottawa, Canada I expressed to the heads of state of the other major Western countries and Japan my belief that we could not continue Conducting business as we had I Suggested that we forge a new set of rules for economic relations with the Soviet Union which would put our security concerns for most I wasn't successful at that time in getting agreement on a common policy Then in December of 1981 the Polish government at Soviet instigation Imposed martial law on the Polish people and outlawed the Solidarity Union This action showed graphically that our hopes for moderation in Soviet behavior We're not likely to be fulfilled In response to that action I imposed an embargo on selected oil and gas equipment to demonstrate our strong opposition to such actions and To penalize this sector of the Soviet economy which relies heavily on high technology Much of it from the United States In June of this year. I extended our embargo to include not only us companies and their products But subsidiaries of us companies abroad and on foreign licensees of us companies Well, it's no secret that our allies didn't agree with this action We stepped up our consultations with them in an effort to forge an enduring realistic and security-minded economic policy toward the Soviet Union These consultations have gone on over a period of months Well, I'm pleased today to announce that the industrialized democracies have this morning Reached substantial agreement on a plan of action The understanding we've reached demonstrates that the western alliance is fundamentally united And intends to give consideration to strategic issues When making decisions on trade with the ussr As a result, we have agreed not to engage in trade arrangements Which contribute to the military or strategic advantage of the ussr Or serve to preferentially aid the heavily militarized soviet economy In putting these principles into practice We will give priority attention to trade in high technology products Including those used in oil and gas production We will also undertake an urgent study of western energy alternatives As well as the question of dependence on energy imports from the soviet union In addition, we've agreed in the following immediate actions First, each partner has affirmed that no new contracts for the purchase of soviet natural gas Will be signed or approved during the course of our study of alternative western sources of energy Second, we and our partners will strengthen existing controls on the transfer of strategic items To the soviet union Third, we will establish without delay procedures for monitoring financial relations with the soviet union And will work to harmonize our export credit policies The understanding we and our partners have reached and the actions we are taking Reflect our mutual determination to overcome differences and strengthen our cohesion I believe this new agreement is a victory for all the allies It puts in place a much needed policy in the economic area To complement our policies in the security area As I mentioned a moment ago, the united states imposed sanctions against the soviet union In order to demonstrate that their policies of oppression would entail substantial costs Well, now that we've achieved an agreement with our allies Which provides for stronger and more effective measures There is no further need for these sanctions And I am lifting them today The process of restoring a proper balance in relations with the soviet union is not ended It will take time to make up for the losses incurred in past years But acting together we and our allies are making major progress And I'm happy to say the prospects for peace are brighter I have just returned to the white house from the soviet embassy Where I signed the book of condolence for president brezhnev New leaders are coming to power in the soviet union If they act in a responsible fashion they will meet a ready and positive response in the west Till next saturday at the same time Goodbye and god bless you


I'm in the VinFast booth, which is a Vietnamese company, and I'm representing the Kilowatt podcast, but I also do the NoSyllaCast podcast over at Podfeat.com. This is the VF8, which is a full-size SUV, it's a five-seater, and it's got a range of 250 to 280 miles. It's available in the U.S. today, came out in March of 2023. This comes in two trims, it comes in the Eco and the Plus, the Plus is the fully loaded version, and it starts at a price point of $46,000 on the Eco, and the Plus is $51,800. So this is a vehicle that you might want to take a look at, that's available today, all electric, so it's our kind of car. Now if you'd like a bigger SUV, this is the seven-seater VF9. This is going to be coming to the United States in the first quarter of 2024, so just around the corner. This also comes in an Eco and a Plus version, and the Eco starts at $79,800, approximately, that's what they're looking for, and the Plus comes in at $85,000. The range is above 300 miles, so that's a good, healthy range. Again, it's a seven-seater, full-size SUV, coming to the United States first quarter of 2024 from VinFast. I'm sitting inside the VF9 right now, but the display and the controls that you see here will be the same, are the same in the VF8 as well. It has lane assist and speed control, as you can see on this display right here, and you get to it with this little button I'm pointing at right there, but I can also go into drive mode and show you that it's got driving styles of Eco, Normal, and Sport mode. It's got that awful Crete mode that I don't know why anybody wants to turn on, but if you're used to a gas vehicle, maybe you'd like it. And we also have an option of low or high regenerative braking. Like I said, this is available on both of the models that we've looked at today, and this is a giant, beautiful screen. I'm really, really happy with how this looks. So if you're looking for full self-driving, it's not here yet. This does work. The driving modes, lane assist works on the freeway only.  We all hope that works. Thank you very much for the rest of the VF9. All right. Now, if we want to look to the future for VinFast, we have the VF3 behind me, and this is a very small compact four-seater vehicle that's targeted for 2025. They're looking to bring this in at around $20,000 US. If they can hit that price point, that is an incredible price, and it's going to be just a small commuter car. So it's 125 miles that you could go on for, like I said, for just the commuter vehicle. And we're looking at 2025 for the VF3. Now, it wouldn't be CES if it wasn't a chance to look at a purely concept car. This is the VinFast WALD, the Wild, which is a big truck with its four-seater, and I've got displays all over the place. Got a beautiful display in front for me, but there's displays in the back seats, and we've got a full glass roof going up over here. And this is, like I said, it's a concept car. We were looking at 2025 to see the VinFast WALD come to fruition.


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Honestly it's just a crazy feeling. I'm really anxious to get out in the field and play with all my brothers. We've been going hard every single day just giving it the best, getting prepared for God willing. It's a little mixture between being nervous but at the same time it's being eager to get out there and make some history. This group of guys, they just want to win. They don't care what they have to do to win.  At the end of the day, winning is the main key so everybody here just wants to win. I mean, of course, there's nervousness and anxiousness to go with it but most of all I feel like we're focused. We're really having good practices and we're really ready to get out there and have a good game. It's unreal, you know, macro on that wall. All the accomplishments that Central made before this year, you know, well undefeated Cardinal Conference champions and the first team to ever be in a state championship. It's unreal. It's really something you can't describe, you know, just for us to really make history, what we made history a bunch this year but for us to be the first team to go and actually have a chance to win it, it's pretty unreal.