SOA governance, your questions answered. I'm Chris Harding, the Open Group Director for Interoperability, and part of my responsibility is to support our members' work on SOA, including the work that we have done on SOA governance, which resulted in the publication of our SOA governance framework. The purpose of this webinar is to give those of you who are participating the opportunity to ask questions of the panelists and to discuss those, for the panel to discuss those questions relating to SOA governance, and in particular the SOA governance technical framework of the Open Group. Now, I have a tutorial on SOA governance, which I can keep as a background information if we need to look at specific points on the governance framework. I see we have on our panel Bob Laird from IBM, who is something of an SOA governance expert. Some of his ideas were major factors in the SOA governance framework that the Open Group produced, and he has also authored other books and works on SOA governance. And we have Jed McSuba from Accenture, who is a governance expert who has been involved in using SOA governance, and Dave Hornford from Conexium, who is the chair of the Open Group Architecture Forum, and also has some experience of applying governance to SOA projects. I will give a brief introduction by extracting some of the material from this tutorial to the topic of SOA governance and the Open Group SOA governance framework, I should say. And can I ask people if you have questions, please to submit them online using the WebEx Q&A facility. I see we don't have any technical questions yet, so let's proceed with the introduction part of this webinar. SOA governance is a means for establishing and enforcing how people and solutions work together to achieve organisational objectives, and it provides the framework for planning, developing, deploying and managing an SOA solution. It has benefits of ensuring alignment, establishing controls, reducing cost over time and mitigating risk. SOA governance does not stand by itself, but it's part of the overall enterprise governance regimen, and it extends IT and enterprise architecture governance to ensure that SOA is governed properly. The SOA governance framework is really concerned with three things, the people, the processes and the technology, and roles and responsibilities of the people and the organisational structure, the governing and the governed processes, and the technology infrastructure and tools. The SOA governance framework defines an SOA governance reference model containing guiding principles, roles and responsibilities, some process material and some technology descriptions. And this model is used as part of the overall SOA governance framework, and the key attribute of this framework is vitality. So the SOA governance reference model is the starting point, and taking that as the basis, you use the SOA governance vitality method to develop a customised and focused SOA governance regimen for your enterprise, and this is not just a one-off process because the governance vitality method goes through a cycle of plan, define, implement and monitor, and that cycle should be repeated to ensure that the SOA governance regimen of your enterprise is up-to-date and vital. So the key governance guiding principles defined in the framework, these actually are example governance guiding principles, so I will skip over them. This slide shows an example again of governance roles and responsibilities in the context of the example company. The SOA governing processes include compliance, these are the three processes defined by the framework, compliance, dispensation and communication. Compliance is the mechanism for review and approvals. You have to have a dispensation mechanism in case that compliance mechanism is too rigid, particular cases, and key to the governance process is communication, to educate people about SOA governance and to communicate what it is they need to do. Here are some examples of how those processes might apply in particular context, and again further examples. Now this slide shows the SOA governance processes and these really can be viewed of the SOA on two axes, the solution versus service and the planning versus design and operational axis. And there are basically four processes, solution portfolio management that ensures you have the right portfolio of SOA solutions. Service portfolio management that ensures you have the right portfolio of services. The services are what your SOA solutions are built from, and then the life cycle processes in the solution life cycle and service life cycle management processes. And those at the top of the slide are shown as the key governance processes. At the bottom of the slide there's a slide expansion that shows how they relate to each other. And these again are showing how this applies in the context of the example. The vitality method, as I explained, is repeated. It's not sufficient to simply define a governance regimen and leave it, particularly for SOA. It is important to keep it up to date as circumstances change and the cycle consists of planning, defining, implementing and monitoring your governance regimen. And this summarizes what we've been over, what SOA governance is, how it relates to other governance structures because SOA governance is not standalone. It is in the context of enterprise and IT architecture governance, and we've looked a little at what high level governance structures and processes need to be put in place. And from this, the conclusions of all this, governance is the means of ensuring that enterprise operation aligns with business goals. This is crucial. The whole point of all this is to make sure that you're aligning with the business goals of the enterprise. Good governance is needed if SOA is to realize its business potential. This is crucial. And the SOA governance framework of the open group includes an SOA governance reference model that describes the processes, organizational structures and enabling technologies for SOA and a vitality method that enables you to customize these to produce the customized governance regimen for your enterprise and to update this over time to keep it relevant. And good SOA governance enforces continued compliance with an enterprise SOA reference architecture. So that really is a summary of what the open group SOA governance framework is about. And I suggest we now move into the discussion phase of this webinar. And I'll start by asking the panelists to put forward their questions on this and to kick the discussion off. But again, please, for all participants, as you come up with questions, put them forward on the Q&A facility of this session. Okay, so perhaps we could start, Bob, your perhaps the primary SOA governance expert amongst us. Do you have any comments to make on that overall summary? Any questions that come out of it for you? So thank you, Chris. And I'm not sure I deserve that accolade, but I'll have to deal with it, I suppose. One of the common questions and concerns for people on SOA governance that you typically hear about is where do we start? So it's great that there's now an open group reference model and a vitality method. But those are guidelines as to how to structure your governance. So the answer, of course, is it depends, but that seems a bit too disingenuous. So I think in general one of the really good areas to start in governance is to look at your development methodology and your governance around that. So most everybody has a very good service development life cycle and there's at least some sort of governance around it, maybe peer reviews. Maybe you may have some level of architectural reviews, something of that nature. When you make the transformation from systems to services, things are a little bit different. The concept of the contract of the service, i.e. the specification, is very important in a SOA-type governance environment as opposed to an IT-type governance environment, more important at least. And so identifying what the state transitions are in your service development life cycle and what the control points are around those who needs to approve, who needs to review brings a level of discipline and specificity to your governance that, or at least to your SOA governance that perhaps you haven't had before. In addition, it's something that we, especially in IT, are comfortable with. We've had experience dealing with, again, the service development life cycle. There's been some level of governance hopefully around that. And so it's not too much of a leap to then say, okay, so what are the things that we have to do from a SOA governance point of view in your development life cycle? What are the, again, the states? What are the control points? What are the things that we have to do in order to ensure quality in our services? And some of that can be more difficult than others, especially in my experience I found dealing at the front end with requirements for services, particularly non-functional requirements, and then also dealing at the back end with our handoff to production operations and having the appropriate kinds of governance checklist. Nevertheless, it is an area that we hopefully have had some experience before with, and so it's not too much of a leap to try and get good governance going in that respect. And then the other area that I would say is a good place to start. Chris touched upon organization. Typically, we're moving from a stylo-type environment for our systems, development to a more shared environment, more horizontal environment for our services. And so consequently, your organization needs to evolve into having at least some groups that are more horizontal. Specifically, there should be some sort of shared services architecture board, architecture review board, whatever you want to call it. And then at the more executive level in order to provide guidance and prioritization and that sort of thing, there should be some sort of executive board, executive review board is sometimes used. And then associated with that, Gartner used the term center of competency, you will see center of excellence, some sort of group that is responsible for providing adult supervision across the organization and to identify the things at a more macro level that makes sense. So I think if you focus on those two things and start to develop a level of expertise and confidence in terms of your service development lifecycle, the governance around that and then what are the horizontal organizations, that's an excellent start. Thanks very much, Bob. So that's a good introduction to getting started with our governance. Dave, I wonder if you could comment on, first of all, perhaps you could give a little background on your involvement with SOA governance and related projects. And what are the issues that you've found when trying to put a SOA governance regimen in place? Certainly, Chris. My background is I'm a consultant. I run an organization that is focused on helping architecture teams be effective. And in the SOA space, the vitality method that Chris has talked about and Bob talked about are key, particularly when you go and look at the image that you had of Chris which looks at the interaction between solutions portfolio, service portfolio, solution lifecycle, and service lifecycle. Can you flip back to that one? The key element for us as an organization who helps architecture teams become more effective is helping them understand the distinct elements that operate differently. And the governed processes, originally people look at this and they go, oh, I have to do so much work. I have to worry about my portfolio. I have to worry about my services. I have to worry about my solutions. The answer is you do because if you do not do good governance, you are going to get almost none of the benefits of good service oriented architecture. The reusability, the agility, the ability to reconstruct elements of your business aren't possible if you can't manage that lifecycle. And the key element here, particularly if people want to go down a loosely coupled path, is your contract must have terms of change. What is the offering and when are the terms of change from the offer of the service? The other element in terms of an implementation that is governed that we've found is absolutely critical in a loosely coupled is the testing paradigm needs to be adapted so that the services being consumed have to fail predictably. Because if you're loosely coupled, you're maybe consuming services that you're not interacting with the service provider, how will you tell when you're orchestrating something that the overall SOA solution is working properly if you cannot test for predictable fail? Those are the key elements that we've found in terms of using and is being very clear that the portfolio and the lifecycle need to be considered and absolutely critical is the contract. Any basic questions from there? Before we take further questions, I'd like to give Jed a chance to comment in a similar way on his experience with SOA governance and issues he sees with the governance framework. Sure. Thanks, Chris. So I've been involved with designing and implementing SOA solutions since the early 2000s and I guess if you want to include some of the core board work I did back in the late 90s, I've been thinking about this for a while. I've had I guess the, I don't know if it's a pleasure, but the fortune of implementing, designing and implementing services in large organizations where SOA governance both existed and where it didn't exist. I think one of the key learnings that I've had over the years in seeing those two scenarios is an organization can and many follow this pattern where they absolutely can do web service development without having SOA governance in place. However, one of the key messages that we need to communicate to our customers or our business partners is if they really want to achieve the maximum value that SOA really can bring to the table, then a SOA governance framework is absolutely critical. So many times in helping my customers roll this out, it's really around communicating the value of SOA governance. Probably not surprisingly, governance is viewed kind of uniquely in many organizations, especially by the development community where they see governance as being unnecessary overhead. A couple points to that is that the governance is meant to add value. So it's the constant change management and the communication mechanism to say that what we are implementing when we roll out a SOA governance framework is really intended to add value to your organization. It's to ensure that you're designing services, service interfaces, and implementations according to best practices and standards that you're ensuring that the services themselves deliver maximum value to the business, that the services themselves are able to be shared across the organization. So it's very much a change management communication as it is anything. So any questions on that? We have one question from Rude Romans who is asking, and all three of you have talked about why SOA governance is crucial and what are the things to do to get it set up. The question he's asking is what are the common pitfalls when setting up or executing SOA governance and how best to overcome these? What are the things that you've observed that people, the errors that they might fall into and how do you make sure that people don't make those mistakes? So this is Bob. I'll go first. So one of the common pitfalls of governance, and I think Jed and Dave both alluded to this, is that if governance is too difficult or it's not adding value, people will stop using it, will work around it, will ignore it. And so to the extent that you can automate your governance and make it easy to use and show that it adds value, that's a good thing. I talked before about the service development life cycle, and one of the things that you can do is to read that you could say, automate your development governance, perhaps be able to run your code, your programs through a machine that would check with your development policies and indicate to the developer where they have an issue, then governance almost becomes fun. It becomes relatively easy to do. And then I think the other thing is that what tends to happen a lot of times is governance flounders upon the rock of groups having to work together and siloed organizations are not used to working together. They may regard the other organization as the enemy. And so it's impossible to overcommunicate. So to the degree that you can replace fear and be in doubt with round-bag lunches, talking about the plan, with communications that identify what's going on with one-on-one, with seminars that talk about the technology, anything you can do to help communicate among the different groups that are having to work together now is a good thing. Dave or Jed? Sure. Comments right to that? Sure. And this is Jed. And from my experience in terms of common pitfalls, I think many of them were just captured. But one other thing is making sure that you're starting at the right level. So within the governance framework, there's a pointer to the silo maturity model. So one of the things that certainly in my experience, and I would recommend that you don't want to do, is you don't want to overburden the organization with unnecessary governance. I mean, the framework itself is very robust. There are many different parts to it. But what's key is to understand really where the organization sits from a maturity standpoint, and you're tailoring the governance framework to be specific to their needs. Again, depending upon where they are in the spectrum, they may be dealing with really fundamental basic issues, like not having a common service development lifecycle, but that you can pretty easily go in there and very concrete deal with that. If they're at a nation stage and they have organization issues, while very important going in initially, that may not be an area that you really want to focus on too strongly. So I guess the message is just making sure that you tailor it to the customer's needs or your needs of your organization as opposed to just taking the framework itself holistically and just putting it in place. Thanks, Jed. Dave, anything to add to that? Well, first off, Bob and Jed were right, and the second unique ad that I'll bring in is people need to be very clear about distinguishing between a management process and a governance process and not blurring the line between the activities undertaken to manage something and manage an activity, manage a development activity, manage a change program and governing it. The second aspect for me is absolutely critical of understanding the distinction between when you are loosely and when you are tightly coupled. Because if what we're doing is building web services and calling it service oriented architecture, but all of our web services are tightly coupled, unorchestratable, unisolatable activities, and we're using web services as an integration tool, that governance activity is no different than how you would govern any other tightly coupled development activity. When we move to the area of our services actually existing and can be orchestrated and can be consumed, we're in that place that Jed talked about where we're now having organizations that are not used to working together. Somebody I don't know of in my organization is consuming my service. Somebody who is external, a question we'll probably get to on consumerization and mobility, is consuming my service. And in that space, our governance becomes absolutely critical around what is the life cycle of that solution and that service so that we can deliver predictability. Because if our services, because we're not used to working together and we're following a tightly coupled operational model, and that any service that is provided will never succeed in the transformation and the goals that we're looking for, because I can't rely on it being predictable. And the goal of the whole governance and life cycle management is ensuring predictability for things that you're just going to reach out to and consume. I can't stress enough in our experience where we see people again and again fail because the services are not predictable, because they are carrying forward activities that are applicable to tightly coupled operational models. Chris, this is Bob. I have one other thing to add, and I certainly agree with what Dave just and Jed talked about. Broadly speaking, SOA is, and again, this is a very macro level, so take this with a grain of salt, but you're really talking about SOA at two levels. One is more of a technical level where you're concerned about the SOA principles and whose coupling and development cycle and that sort of thing. And that's typically where we see SOA start and SOA governance start. The second level is more at a more business level where you're trying to do engender agility. You're trying to use your services in a fashion that helps you create that agility in the organization. And I think in that latter, more business-focused, agility-focused SOA, change management, which is while important at the technical level, becomes even more important at the business-focused level. And there's a guy from Harvard named John Carter who has written a wonderful book about leading change and change management that I urge everybody who is really interested in governance and leading change to get a copy and read. But in it he talks about the eight steps that you have to go through in really leading change. And at the end of the day, that's what SOA and SOA governance is about. SOA governance ends up being to some degree adult supervision over the organization, and it's a lot like being a parent. And if you don't look at it from that point of view of you really are leading change and you're making things different, which is tremendously uncomfortable for a lot of people that those people will fight you and could ultimately defeat you. And that's one of the anti-patterns that I think is very common that we see when there is failure. Okay. We have a question from Christopher Harkill, which is, did I hear you say that organizations are slowly moving away from system development, lifecycle to service development? I'd actually like to generalize that question a bit, if we can, because SOA has now been around for quite a few years. So perhaps what I'd like to ask people is what are the trends that you see, the underlying trends that you see in the way that organizations are using SOA and how does this impact on the governance? Is it making governance easier or is it making governance more difficult for SOA? I guess I'll go first in less paper. Jet, do you want to go? Okay, I'll go first. So yeah, I think SOA has to some degree become accepted and yesterday's news. And in fact, one of the common things, the decision points that you make is, is this a build or a buy decision? Is it a system that we need to create or is it services that we need to create? And so certainly the needle has moved more toward services. That doesn't mean that everything is a service, of course. Has this made things more difficult? Yeah, actually I think it has because trying to work across organizations and build software that is going to work for a variety of needs is more difficult. It requires more communication. You're probably working with people that are not necessarily co-located with you physically. And so that requires more governance. All other things being equal. On the other hand, you know, is the benefit that you get from that reuse and agility worth that and that's the question that you have to ask. Hopefully the answer is yes and therefore it makes sense to pay that price. Dave, I think picking up on one of the points you were making about the fact that you don't know who your consumers are and it's more difficult in that environment to put a governance regime in place. But do you think perhaps the fact that people are now getting more used to doing this is making it easier or are we discovering new issues as we go along? I would say it's both, Chris. This is Dave. And the big trend that I'm seeing is people understanding the distinction between box categorization of two levels so at a technical layer and so at a business layer. Too often in the past we've blurred the outcome and the target of what we were trying to achieve and understanding that we can solve some things technically and we can solve some things at the business level. And the critical element as you identified is that when we start to develop services that are consumed by people we don't know and don't interact with, that predictability, the lifecycle portfolio management becomes absolutely critical because the consumer has to rely on a service at the same time as the service provider has to be able to adapt and move the service forward. And that requires, like Bob's phrase, adult supervision because if you're delivering something to someone you don't know, how do you communicate that there's a change without there being some overall portfolio and lifecycle governance activity? And I know I keep harping on that one, but that's the one area where we recurrently see attempts to get to, as Bob cost it, as so at the business level with agility and flexibility, not delivering because organizations will not jump that hurdle. This is Jed and I absolutely agree with Dave and Bob's comments. And I think categorizing the technical and business, I guess, angles is absolutely appropriate. And in terms of making it more difficult, certainly my experience is on the technical side, so as an architectural design pattern, it's well accepted by the IT community. Sometimes they may use it in places they shouldn't in vice versa, but I think technically it's well accepted. Clearly the business aspect, the organizational aspect is clearly a lot more difficult and it's something that organizations are continually trying to figure out how it fits within their organizational structures because no organization is the same. They're all different. They have different personalities and trying to be successful with the true vision of SOA is something that needs to be worked. I know in a customer that I'm dealing with now, in fact they're in a position where they know who all their consumers are and it still doesn't make it any easier because the different consumers have different incentives, different objectives, different timelines and trying to get them to work together to make a decision on something, I don't want to say it's simple, but a change to a service interface, it's very complex and you can understand the implications it has. So we, as part of this organization, we had to understand in an environment that is very, very siloed by product, how can they organize themselves around the concept of building these reusable shared services? What kind of decision making authority needs to be put in place so that two groups that don't have alignment in their objectives are not simply going out and building two similar sets of assets. We put in place, and I think it was mentioned perhaps by Bob earlier on, we put in an executive level, the SOA Steering Committee that is comprised of the CIO and his direct reports, all the product line heads, and they're responsible for when there are, essentially they provide the escalation path. So they're not understanding all the details that are going on in the organization, but clearly when we have something that's designated as an enterprise level asset and there is conflict in terms of the direction, then we need to get the executive involved in helping to disposition the issue at hand. Yes, there are more comments on that question. We have another one from Prasantji who asks, could you please share experience in adoption of the governance model? What are the factors that affect the adoption model? Is the technical competence or cultural aspect of the organization, are these the factors? What are the major factors that affect how the SOA governance model is adopted? So that's a pretty general question, but it's really asking for what are people's experience in practice of this? So, Bob, I'll go first. I think from a technical, solid governance point of view, to the degree that you've laid things out well and it's obvious what needs to be done so the technical, the programmers, whatever, are not having to guess at what they need to do. In other words, there's a well-defined process. And to the degree you've made it as easy as possible for them that all of those things aid acceptance. And then I think at the business level, as I mentioned before, change management is crucial for that level of solid governance. Yeah, this is Jed. I would say if they don't know they're doing it, that's the easiest way to get it adopted. I mean, governance in general of like that solid governance is no different. As much as you can do, like Bob said, to simplify it so they know exactly what they can do, any opportunity you can have to automate the governance functions, you want to definitely look at tooling automation. I would not lead with that, but certainly tooling is a good, is a necessary part of implementation. And if there are existing governance processes in place, then certainly you want to look for opportunities to leverage those and just to give you an example. So one of my clients, they already had, as part of their IT governance framework, they had the opportunity or they had a process in place to do architectural level reviews of their solutions, clearly leveraging that to take a look and say, well, as part of your solutions, are you building the enterprise level services according to what your organization has laid out from a target state? It's something that they can ask that additional question or look at that as part of a process that the organization is already doing today. So it's not saying, well, let's define a new process to look at the services aspect of your solutions. It's built into a process that already exists. So I would say probably those three things can help increase adoption, as well as communication and change management. Anything, David, to add to that? So I'll take the job of summing up because, again, I'm agreeing with Bob and Jed, and I'm going to reach back to a comment Jed made about maturity. What problems is your organization capable of solving today, whether you look at the maturity model for SOA, at what technical capabilities you have, and what are the underpinning organizational capabilities? The example of a highly siloed organization is key because your governance activity has to be culturally aware. So we can give you some examples, but they're based upon, well, this organization works this way, so that worked. But being culturally aware and tying as closely as possible into existing governance activities, into existing reporting activities, so that we can reuse what the organization is already doing so that we're not creating more burden and helping it be invisible because people are used to doing what they do now. And if we can use what they're doing now to do effective SOA governance, it doesn't look like they're being asked to do more, if that makes sense. That's what I would focus on, to serve your maturity, your culture, and reusing existing processes and bodies in an organization. I mean, it's sounding from where we're all agreed that the culture of the organization does make, and not only the culture, but the expertise of the organization does make a big difference to the way that you need to approach governance that you must be careful not to try and put in place something that doesn't really suit the organization, and I guess it probably also reinforces the need to be able to update your governance regimen as the organization matures and develops its expertise for SOA. There was a particular point, I think, that a couple of you have picked up on, which was the value of automation in SOA governance. Perhaps I could ask, are we seeing more and better tools appear? Is this something that really the enterprise has to try and craft for itself if it wants good tools, or are we finding that there are tools available, perhaps open source for people to take advantage of? You, Bob, particularly, do you sort of have a feel for how the tooling situation is going with SOA governance?  Yes. Are they getting better? Yeah. I think to some extent there hasn't been as much investment in governance tools because I think governance has not been as much uptake as SOA itself has. SOA governance is, I think, behind SOA in terms of its uptake, and perhaps its use. So I think the trend has been in the right direction, but I wouldn't say that there's just a ton of really focused tools in terms of automation at a detailed level. There's certainly tools that will help you do governance, and there's a lot of SOA governance tools out there itself, and they are helpful, but I think this area is still emerging to some degree. Sure, this is Jen, and I agree with Bob in terms of what I'm seeing. I think one of the key things, and as you roll out your governance framework to the organizations, and you look how to use a consulting term, operationalize or make real in the organization, clearly there's a number of tools that you can put in place to automate those. So if you think of the registry repository tools that are out there, those are, I think, as far as if you look at development time and runtime tooling, because those are different categories, but you look at the tooling to support those. Clearly the registry repository is one of those, but there are other tools that you can use to help automate your processes. In addition to those two, that will help make it easier for both the development community as well as those members of the organization that are doing the more strategic or planning level activities. So I would encourage you to think about it more holistically and ensure that the tooling that you pick is positioned properly and it fits the role within the governance framework that you're intending it to do. Any comments on that, Bob? If not, as we are approaching the end of the hour, I'd like to ask you all one final question that you might like to comment on which would perhaps also contribute to our understanding of the SOA governance framework and how it should be used and perhaps also be of use to any future development. Given that we have the open group SOA governance framework which has been in place now for a couple of years, if we were to think about revising that, what would be the main points that you would see that it might be important either to change or to give a different emphasis to? Okay, so I would say the framework at the level it is now that that part's fine. I think if we had right people and time and resources that they're taking that down to a next level so perhaps providing more specific guidance in the various entities would be good. I think another interesting thing, we have a SOA maturity model, we don't have a SOA governance maturity model. So I think that would be another interesting area that we could add to the framework. That's an interesting thought. SOA governance maturity. Dave, any thoughts on this? I would focus on two things if I were involved in redoing it. One is highlighting that the process is identified and the activities identified are not necessarily new processes or activities. What we were just talking about in terms of adoption, using existing governance activities, but asking one more question that you're existing architectural review. Adding something into your software development lifecycle to provide the pieces, highlighting that the framework are things that you must do but they don't have to be standalone activities which I think overcomes the burden because one of the things we see people doing is going, oh, SOA governance, I'll set up a separate SOA governance apparatus in my organization to pursue it. The second thing is echoing what Bob talked about which is a maturity, not necessarily a maturity model but maybe a value model. Where am I going to get more value out of service oriented architecture, service oriented governance, and where will I understand the investments necessary to realize that value? Those are the two things I would do. The idea of a value model is an interesting one there to focus on what are the benefits of applying maybe different aspects. Bob, do you have thoughts on this? Yeah, I think a value model is to some degree has some similarities to a maturity model because I think they talk about the same things. Where is the value and what can governments do to help engender that value? I think that's along the same lines. And is there anything else you would change or re-emphasize in the SOA governance framework? I think the framework was and is a value effort to start to put some standards in place for SOA governance. It was a good first step but I think there are other steps that would make sense to take along the lines of what we just talked about. Okay. Well, on that note, I think that's a good note to finish this webinar and I would again like to give my thanks to our panelists Bob Laird of IBM, Jed Maxuba of Accenture and Dave Hornford of Conexium and on behalf of the Open Group, this is Chris Harding signing off from this webinar and thanking all of you who have participated. I hope you have enjoyed it and gained benefit from it and we look forward to your participation in future webinars. Thank you all very much. Thanks for hosting this, Chris. Appreciate it.


It happened on August 7th, 2012. I was in Canada Heart District, Afghanistan. I was in the foot patrol. I was the point man. He stepped on an improvised explosive device in the ground and immediately lost both of his legs and suffered a traumatic brain injury. And after that, he spent six months in a coma. When Alex was first injured, they were worried about keeping him alive and he ended up giving a stage 4 pressure ulcerer. And so he can't sit for long periods of time without severe pain. And so the plane is not ideal because he has to sit in an upright position for the majority of the plane ride. You know, Alex has got a pretty significant disability and just getting him out of the house, getting him traveled here, navigating TSA and showing up is a large thing. Veterans like Alex and his spouse and caregiver, Kim, they are what drive the VA and DAV in coming back every year in our partnership to deliver the winter sports clinic. Coming here and seeing other people like him and the struggles that he goes through, I mean, it's just been an amazing experience. Was it fun? Because you like to go fast down the hills. I like rick about that. I like a fashion time. The biggest surprise. Do you have a biggest surprise? Yes, my crash. The biggest surprise was your crash? Yes. Clinics like this put on by DAV and the VA. I think it's wonderful because you're getting veterans of all walks of life together and they're doing things that are fun together. Alex embodies the spirit of the winter sports clinic his resiliency and his ability to get out there and do it even when it's real hard is the spirit of this event and that's why Alex is our Freedom Award winner this year.


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Let's talk about mentors. I had many many mentors and I paid upwards of a hundred thousand dollars just to be taught by various millionaires and highly successful people in various different life areas. And the thing about mentors, again, they fit into the equation that we've set up in the previous videos about whatever it is you can conceive and believe you can achieve. So the mentors are basically the belief part of this equation. Just like affirmations, which again another video we've made, they help you with the belief part.  But the true evidence that will give you the belief necessary to achieve your goals is mentors because mentors are people just like you and me.   Differences, they just do things differently. They dream bigger, they have bigger expectations, they have bigger assumptions for how reality works for them.    So let's say you want to be a millionaire and you start want to start making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month. Well, you want to find somebody who does that. And again, you see his normal, you see he can do it. And then you say, okay, if I'm around him every day and I see that he can do it, that means that I can do it.  And then you see it's actually easier than you thought.   See you soon.


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I just don't know what market there is out there for him Paloban caro is 3 of 16 from the field in the end of magic have a double-digit lead that is outrageous Roger McCreary Titans rookie Otto to 75 Aaron Donald Operation detonation You remember soccer boppers. Oh, yeah Soccer boppers soccer boppers First impression RPA 25 of 50 Saints more fun than a pillow fight Those things were like concussion material right there. My brother punched me real hard one time I was like my brain doesn't feel too good right now Trail on a Berks rookie to 399 for the Titans Funkadelic Kyler Murray number to 399 Cardinals Explains a lot though getting undiagnosed concussions as a child Explains a lot John Dotson rookie to 399 commanders Bop it dude. Bop it was awesome My cousins and I used to That was like entertainment for hours as a kid do old jerseys Steelers George Pickens Hines Ward déjà vu Don't do this magic.  I Know someone who's gonna see 80 for Brady tomorrow. It's synvicta Dalvin Cook to 199 for the Vikings He have cards Pickens to 25 Ravens Kyle Hamilton mystique rookie auto Go there's Brady amazing Stake one Barclay to 499 Giants got Mystique Wanda Robinson Giants rookie to 299 makes for the super stat chat David Josh Jacobs on the patch card is 75 for the Raiders Prescott yeah, my cousin a lot of furbies she had like Probably help me 10 of them or something like that She'll have beanies too though. So just the whole thing Garrett Wilson Garrett Wilson a 399 Jets rookie mystique Brian Robinson jr. Looking back on them. They're kind of creepy now Austin Eckler Jersey card Chargers to 75 Chris Olave that movie will be worth this Black ice Aiden Hutchinson rookie to 50 for the Lions mystique Kyle Hamilton Ravens to 199 It's my crisis Donnie's an Eagle span on a Patriots fan. Yeah mark. I'm never be a past man Commander Sam Howell rookie auto reds at 99. You know commanders nice howl Scott Moore Aaron Rogers to 499 for the Packers. We got mystique Vilish Jones bears to 399. Oh, no, not bird gang Jets with a breeze haul rookie endorsements auto to 199 Breeze the beast is his Instagram handle You trade on Walker, that's something Sam would know. Yeah, so my question. Why do you know? I forget how I know maybe he was tagged in like a leech report something like that. I don't know Maybe maybe Sam like inception to me. No, I like remember this information. I got inception Aiden Hutchinson incident packed rookie Jersey for the Lions Watson Breeze Hall rookie to 499 jets in the parallel Illusionist Stefan digs to 25 for the bills Mark, don't be salty that slay locked on Jay Jedis Mack Jones Patriots number to 399 mystique Danny Gray incident packed rookie Jersey trail on Burke's Titans Amazing Sam Howell this is about 2017. Yeah, okay Patterson green to ten Darren Waller Raiders Emmett Smith King of Cards Cowboys to 199 to be fair mark my best friend's a Vikings fan and he He always brings that up Deontay Johnson Steelers to 75 Funkadelic John Alway Broncos to 199. You have illusions tomorrow night I don't know But it'll be funkadelic me if we do Donnie is like the zombie now to 499 James Connor with like some scratches like some indents that you can see right under his His silhouetted like chin, you know send a box never to the cardinal spots. I'm turning. Yeah I'm gonna come in here tomorrow. I'm just a funkadelic man I Help me shadow spiraling. I just want to watch the spiraling illusionist Malik Willis to 299 Titans Devontae Smith yellow diamond at 299 Eagles Mary Sanders King of Cards Nice magic got this dog. Let's go magic Orlando magic Tyler Bady rookie auto to 199 for the Ravens DK Metcalf No Please don't do either it's a 499 Russell Wilson Broncos Misty Christian Watson Packers at 299 Sam and Sean are like, okay, but if there were two Two of either one would just be chaos box for Two different theaters for Brady Think I think for us this guy does The walker to 499 Seattle, I am certainly not wasting my I'm not using my day off to see any for Brady twice I'm gone from my house more than an hour tomorrow, I'm gonna lose my mind. I'm staying home all day Titans trail on Berks rookie out of 199. Don't do this magic. Just come on The guy had a clear shot to the rim and he passed it out for a three Because it's only 20 seconds left Rookie yellow diamond James Cook to 299 for the bills Mystique Isaiah Spillard at 399 Chargers Magic don't do this This magic Desmond Ritter rookie incident back Jersey for the Falcons Didn't they do this like last week my home is the 175 for the chiefs Camara illusionists like Do what did they choke a win to somebody? No, it's just beat. Oh, I know they They came back into six years last week. Yeah earlier earlier like Monday highlight swatches Corderole Patterson Falcons patch card T. Hagan's bangles the 499 Funkadelic Malik Willis Titans number to 299 I think he goes gonna survive Lee's Kishan Johnson bucking ears on the patch out of to 25 immortalized bucking ears and James Cook numbered operation detonation green the 10 bills James Cook six of 10 Nice card there Travis Kelsey chiefs of 399 Kim cards Jerry Rice for the Niners number to 399 sink these sink these free throws Wagner Jets breeze hall rookie auto green four of five Dude the color match on this is unreal Love that four of five breeze the beast. That's going in a mag That's in Victor with the jets That's disgusting man. That's one of the cooler cards. I've seen in this Joe Shiesty That's that's the only hesitation I have like the Eagles have a better team for sure But like my homes can beat can do my home stuff. Yeah, no one can do it He just missed both free throws. Oh my god TJ Watt to 199 Steelers Aaron Rodgers Funkadelic I feel like their O lion is worse Well, yeah, it is Tyler Algear falcons rookie auto to 25 Josh Allen amazing Green say to show the green card that have been wild.  This isn't spectra Right, yeah, take spectra spectra Tremac bride incident pack Turkey Jersey to 99 Cardinals Hey Jalen waddle to 399 dolphins 50% of Papa John's mom. I have to skip out on the On the wall on the whoppers. Hope that guy that was in tick-tock last night was watching the game Tremac bride rookie incident pack Jersey to 99 again for the Cardinals Just got taken last night like all the magic reduced warrior warrior Like they got they got beat by the 76 toys Like yeah, but also the magic just beat the 76ers rookie yellow diamond Johan Dotson to 299 commanders Mystique Village Jones to 299 bears. I don't like Papa John's, but it's 50% off.  That's what I'll say Darnell Mooney rookie auto to 99 for the Bears Yes, so I saw right her chain. It's not the worst Cordial Patterson to 175 Falcons Mystique John and Mets you to 399 for the Texans National chain, I don't know if I put one above Because it's better. It's better than Domino's pizza Marcos See Marcos is more regional, right? Commanders Johan Dotson nice red to 75 rookie. I love these color matches. We got going on There we go. I prefer Papa John's a Domino's Same Papa John's has much better sauce and like 100% Domino's tastes like fast food pizza to me Here Wilson Niners Tyrion Davis price on the rookie auto number to 199 They're all edible and stuff But I don't know there's a local place that I go to I haven't been like a chain pizza place The only time he changed pizza is when I'm here we get Marcos Marcos is fine Christian Watson a 399 for the Packers Yeah, I'm sure what area you're in exactly Yeah, but part of Sanford is the question Breeze Hall rookie Jersey card jets incident back Jersey Roadtaste with lots of toppers Joe mix into 399 Bengals Mystique Aiden Hutchinson Pretty expensive according to the internet It's got three dollars on Almond Ross St. Brown to 499 for the Lions. That's probably not the place then Mystique rookie Kenneth Walker the third to 399 the Seahawks Not sure what that is Justin Joe mix into 499 Bengals Malik Willis Texans John Metchie the third Andre Johnson dual jersey Kenny Pickett Ezekiel Elliott a 75 for Dallas Funkadelic Matt Stafford to a 299 for the Rams There's more group breaks tomorrow everybody. We are sold out tonight. We just got a handful more after this Plenty more group breaks tomorrow and Sunday black ice George Kittle to 50 for the Niners Funkadelic rookie Jets Breeze Hall to 399 Go Jets Did you Jay? I'd probably get injured doing that righter Got Jets and Seahawks dual Jersey saw Skarner Richard Sherman random at the end There's a bowman mixture to a 20 box bowman mixture tomorrow, which is gonna be awesome You guys got to make sure to check that one out Yeah, Carl, I guess so Carson Wentz the 399 commanders Kim cards Emmett Smith 1099 Niners Danny Gray rookie Otto Mystique Yellow Diamond Ryan Tannehill the 299 Titans Mystique rookie Bailey Zappie Patriots to 199 Pickett and Bradshaw dual Jersey Steelers Herbert Operation Detonation Alec Pierce the 499 Colts rookie Giants Mystique Wanda Robinson Jets Alec Pierce rookie Jersey for the Colt not Jets, but Colts rookie Jersey Alec Pierce. I always said Jets Colts Drake London The first thing I saw yesterday said that but yeah, I don't know 100% if that was it. It was true Margaret Cooper to 399 for the Browns Mystique Wanda Robinson Giants rookie to 399 Hardy Nickerson for the Bucks on the Jersey Otto to 49 Mortalized rookie yellow Diamond Damian Pierce at 299 Texans Mystique George Pickens rookie to 299 Steelers I don't know Jay. I don't love my neighbors Hines wards Steelers on these superlatives Otto to 25 Chris, I love a last one y'all last illusions of the night Come on Yellow Diamond DK to 299 Seattle Funkadelic Arizona Kyler Murray to 199 First impressions RPA Christian Watson Packers at 299 as rookie Jersey Otto Your neighbors mean geez my neighbors aren't mean one of my neighbors is really nice. She's like the sweetest Like she gives my wife and I cookies like all the time. She works like a bakery. She's awesome To 175 Garrett Wilson rookie for the Jets Like super super super nice mystique to 50 rookie pierre Strong jr. 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Yeah, dude Miami dolphins Scott h there you go cheetah one of one Derek Henry king of cars at 399 titans Tyreek hill sky more chiefs dual jersey now A lot of tyreek here Michael vick desmond ridder dual jersey falcons Amazing grease hall David Montgomery to 199 for chicago and mystique aiden hudson Let me just set guys will do the uh The one random only one which is crazy and then we'll do a recap. I thought like since we only had one I thought I missed like a couple because like Didn't seem normal. Yeah, there's always like three or four or five Yeah, if youtube contracted that for me through I'd be the same way honestly I'll I usually watch a new youtube sometimes i'm on switch Uh, let's see dual relic here random between the jets and the seahawks It's saw scarter and richard sherman Good luck to both six and one seven times whoever's up top is getting the card one two three four five six and seven go into the seahawks Oh No, that one works. I gotta be no relics um vick and ridder tyreek hill sky more alec pierce bradshaw pickets andre johnson john mechie grease hall trimmick bride twice cordial paterson desmond ridder trail on berks aiden hudson sin austin eckler josh jacob's hindsward george pickens and matt corral autos Jerome ford Dwight freanie christian watson ricky jersey auto for the packers. We got a hindsward stealers hardy nickerson buccaneers mystique dany gray niners teary davis price niners johann dotts and commanders of 75 on the color match darnell mooney bears tether algae or falcons quichon johnson bux trail on berks titans tyler baity ravens brice hall jets sam howell commanders kyle hamilton ravens rpa olave for the saints to 50 mccreary titans jamal lewis ravens greens of five brice hall auto for the jets great color match and one-of-one tyree kill dolphins Thanks again everybody More football coming up


You should know that some of these people voted for you last time around some voted for Hillary Clinton some voted for Third-party kinates or none or no one at all all have written their own questions. Okay, set out the last presidential election I believe Unfortunately, so I did give you mr. President So I'd like to ask regarding your recent comments about our United States soldiers and referring to them as suckers Could you say that again? our United States soldiers referring to them as suckers and Particularly the late John McCain our prisoners. Oh, I see losers Okay, the fake it was a fake statement and Rick. How do you expect to win back? The support of our military their families their friends and military supporters. It's easy because I never made those statements They were never made by me Welcome back everyone first of all I want to thank all my patreon and subscribe star subscribers as well as all the people who donate to this channel Without all of you none of this would be possible if you were around last night You saw that I streamed this ABC town hall over at my D live channel Something that you should all go over and subscribe to because I'm gonna be doing a lot of different sorts of streams over there Where I don't have to worry about them shutting down the channel But anyway, we watched this town hall and it was predictably obvious in its intent all you haters out there have to admit That Trump isn't afraid to go into unfriendly territory and answer tough partisan questions or express his feelings on just about anything They call him a liar, but I've never seen a guy that's so open and unfiltered about his feelings Now we're gonna dive right into Trump's feelings on this town hall But first just give me 30 seconds to tell you about this special offer from this episode sponsor Biotrust ageless multi-collagen after 20 years old your body will naturally decrease its collagen production by 12% Each passing decade. This is a leading reason as to why skin appears thinner and more wrinkled as we age Ageless multi-collagen provides you with the five types of collagen your body needs and one complete protein You'll enjoy powerful support for your body with results You can see and feel in a few short weeks get ageless multi-collagen for 51% off plus free shipping by going to www.healthwithdronetech.com or by clicking the link in the video description box below last night's ABC town hall was Predictably obvious in its intent. It's no secret that ABC is the home of a bunch of former Democrat Party officials and Left-wing activists who donate large amounts of money to the Democrat Party the so-called Moderator of this fake town hall is a former Clinton administration official George Stephanopoulos Something that should be disclosed before things like this But that would require some integrity the entire production was laughable with commercial breaks featuring American historical monuments and the Constitution all things that are targeted for destruction by the very people ABC News and George Stephanopoulos Support in live for when you say a lot of people got things wrong. I mean you mentioned China at the top right there all through January and February You you were you were downplaying by your own admission the severity of the crisis that you didn't want to panic people not down But let me just do a question for us not downplaying. I Don't want to drive our nation into a panic. I'm a cheerleader for this nation. I'm the one that closed up our country I closed it up long before any of the experts thought I should and saved hundreds of thousands of lives And the band was a very important band I wanted to ask China was I want to ask you about China was heavily infected and nobody by the way I read where other people said do it no people that I saw said do it Joe Biden said I was Xenophobic because I put the band on and I thought that was a very unfair and by the way He's totally taken that back. Look the fact is that Trump started taking action pretty early near the end of January Literally right after the who finally admitted that there had been human to human transmission on the 29th Trump ban travel from China and on the very same day Joe Biden gave a speech where he called that move Xenophobic and racist the media has done their best to cover that up if you look it up You'll find fact checks that claim Biden actually supported it pointing to a tweet He made a month later, but unfortunately for them We have the video of Biden saying the travel ban was Xenophobic on the very day that Trump instituted it There can people need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it That he is going to act rationally about it And moments like this. This is where the credibility of president is most needed as he explains what we should and should not do This is no time for Donald Trump's record of Hysteria xenophobia hysterical xenophobia But none of that matters to the gaslighting Democrat Party state media and let's not forget that the hallowed expert Dr. Fauci said that the flu was a bigger threat at the end of February and Pelosi was holding maskless press conferences to encourage people to come to Chinatown I want to move on to some other subjects, but you know, we're still arguing with 195,000 deaths in the United States Right now when you see that when you think about that does that give you any pause? Is it making you think is there anything I could have done differently anything? I think we could have had two million deaths if we didn't close out the country. So you regret not close it No, I think we did a great job. It's going to go away a lot faster with go away without the vaccine Sure over a period of time sure with time it goes many deaths and you'll develop you'll develop hurt like a herd mentality Are you sure about that develop you'll develop hurt like a herd mentality? It's going to be it's going to be heard developed and that's going to happen that will all happen But with a vaccine, I think it will go away very quickly got to take a quick I really believe we're rounding the corner and I believe that's as you know, Dr. Fauci disagrees with that Well, I mean, but a lot of people do this and do agree with me here We go again while all these deaths are horrible and nobody wants it to happen It's still within the best case scenario that was laid out by Dr. Early on in this pandemic the US has the third largest population in the world And we don't know the true numbers out of China or India the two largest populations in the world So without those numbers, we really have no idea But likely the US would fall even further down that list Don't get me wrong every single one of these deaths is a sad tragedy and we all wish none of it had ever happened But Steph is being typically dishonest here by lying and omitting this extra context You have to be very tough on crime when it comes to things Tough on crime but also obey the rules and regulations for policing And you talk about police choking, you talk about bad apples But a lot of people look at the statistics black Americans more than three times more likely Than white Americans to be killed by police And that indicates that this just isn't bad apples, this just isn't choking This is a real systemic endemic problem So we're going to start talking statistics now, are we? Well for a problem that's supposedly so widespread and unquestionable He sure offers very little to back up his claims before declaring the debate over A very common tactic of the left these days He simply says, quote, black people are three times more likely to be shot by cops Okay There are many other factors at play here that are being completely ignored In place of just assigning racist motivation to police and the system Why are black people three times more likely to be shot by the police? And mind you that these shootings are happening in very specific areas of the country Is it racism or something else? For example, how much more likely are black people to fight the police? I can't find the stats anywhere, it seems like an important question Isn't it strange how this is always glossed over As if black people are just randomly being shot for no reason at all? The stats that George Stephanopoulos doesn't want to talk about Show that black people are in fact over represented in violent crime and murder Which to me might play a pretty big part in them being more likely to be shot by police And when you look at national victim surveys, guess what? It matches up with the crime data Which suggests that there's no widespread discrimination going on It's literally just response to violent crime and murder All I'm trying to show here is that there's many layers to this problem And simply repeating racism over and over isn't going to solve the problem Based on their current plans to defund or abolish the police I'd say that things are about to get a lot worse in these neighborhoods They want is a bailout of Democrat run states that are doing poorly And you know, I don't think this is the right way to go Why do you keep talking about Democrat states and Democrat states? They're American states and American states Democrat run states are the ones that are doing badly, George If you look at New York, if you look at Illinois, if you look at a lot of different places They're doing poorly I just have to stop you there because it's just on a couple of points Number one, Joe Biden has ran against Medicare for all in the primaries But much more importantly, Obamacare guaranteed people with pre-existing conditions could buy insurance Guaranteed they could buy it at the same price as everyone else Guaranteed a package of essential benefits Guaranteed that insurance companies couldn't put a lifetime limit on those benefits You fought to repeal Obamacare You are arguing the Supreme Court right now to strike it down But you take a look, this is a Democrat problem, George I know you're a Democrat, but this is largely a Democrat problem If you just take a look at the list Every Democrat city, almost, not all, but a lot of them Certainly in the top 25, even if you go to the top 50 Almost every city is run by the Democrats You see how flustered and angry this Clinton stews George Stephanopoulos gets Anytime Trump starts calling out Democrats It's just more proof that our once free press has just been taken over by the Democrat Party The most dangerous cities in this country are in fact run by Democrats George Stephanopoulos can't deny it, so he does his best to deflect and spin That's all I have for today Please, if you enjoyed this, hit that like button, share and subscribe If you'd like to support this channel, you can do so by using one of the platforms That are listed in the description or pinned comment Thanks for watching, keep coming back


Good morning, Hank. It's Tuesday. If there's one thing I've learned from 104-year-old Elizabeth Sullivan, it's that if you want to have a long and happy life, drink Dr. Pepper. This stuff is good. It's got sugar in it. And three, two doctors have told me that if I drink it, I will die, but they died first. So today I'm going to be blind test-tasting Dr. Pepper, diet Dr. Pepper, and three meaningless knockoffs. Hold on, actually. You know what? I have to go vote. And I have voted and implore you to do the same. All right, let's taste a real one and some fake ones. You know what it tastes like? It tastes kind of like if Dr. Pepper were John Coltrane's of love Supreme. This would be... I can also blow into a saxophone. All right, on to number two. That is diet Dr. Pepper. It's not sweet. I guess there's like a tiny chance it's the whole foods diet Dr. Pepper, like the Zevia Dr. Pepper, but I'm almost positive that's diet Dr. Pepper. So I'm going to try the third one now. Oh boy.  That makes the first one taste like a love Supreme. Wow. Jesus Christ. That's worse than water. It tastes way too cherry. The thing you have to understand about Dr. Pepper is that Dr. Pepper was invented by Charles Alderton, who was a chemist. This is essential to understanding what makes Dr. Pepper interesting. It was the product of a chemist. And the chemist wasn't trying to make a soda that tasted like lemon lime or like citrus. He was trying to make a soda that tasted like the soda fountain at the Waco Pharmacy smelled. He wanted it in its essence to be artificial. This tastes like it is going for a taste, which is all wrong. Like you don't want to go for cherry or go for cola or go for sassafras roots and have a root beer. You want to go for the way the human heart wants a soda to taste. By the way, if that's Dr. Pepper, I retire. I retire from public life. I walk away.  Let's go to number four. Oh, I feel even more confident now. It's so bad. Jesus Christ. Mmm. I'm... I mean, I guess it could be Mr. Pib. I'm gonna go back to taste number one. I'm like 80, 90% sure that's Dr. Pepper. The complexity. It reminds me of Whitman's Leaves of Grass. Do I contradict myself very well? Then I contradict myself. I contain multitudes. That contains multitudes. Hold on. I want to compare what I think is Diet Dr. Pepper. Make sure that I'm right. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's gotta be it, right? Those are like the same cord played at a different octave, you know? Part of what makes Diet Dr. Pepper so magical. Like, for a long time, their catchphrase was, it tastes more like regular Dr. Pepper, which it really does, because like, if I'm right, hold on. Let me... You know what? Before I start talking a big game, I should taste the fifth one. It's not bad. I just feel like I've been so confident and somewhat cavalier, and now I'm starting to second-guess myself. Like, I think... I think... That is Diet Dr. Pepper. That is very sugary, and it has some layers, but it's not Dr. Pepper, I don't think. It has a similar problem to the first one, which is that there's plenty of sugar, there's plenty of sweetness, but there isn't that multitudinousness. Now I'm getting nervous. I know what Diet Dr. Pepper and Dr. Pepper taste like. Okay, John, one more time. That is Diet Dr. Pepper. Please God be Diet Dr. Pepper. I'm going to be in so much trouble if you're not. Yes! Yes! Okay, then this is 100% Dr. Pepper. Yes! Oh, thank goodness. The remaining three, it doesn't actually matter to me that much, because they're not Dr. Pepper. That's the important thing. I'm going to guess that the really, really bad one is the whole foods, Dr. Pepper. It almost tastes like cough syrup, to be honest with you. Yes! So I think this is the Kroger one, Dr. K, because it's better. And in my experience anyway, store-brand knockoffs are actually better than like Coke or Pepsi knockoffs. Dr. K... Oh! Mr. Pib! They call it Spicy Cherry Soda. Well, I'll tell you one thing that it's not spicy. Now, I know what you're wondering, Hank. John, how are you going to turn this into a sock commercial?   Then we have like cool-ish socks that just get holes in them really fast, so they don't turn out to be that cheap because you can't wear them that many times. Then for me, the Mr. Pib of socks is like fancy socks, like these socks are supposed to be for working out and they have all of these bells and whistles, but the thing is I prefer to work out in my awesome sock socks because they're just more comfortable. Then we come to the Dr. Pepper of socks, the awesome socks. These socks are perfect and 100% of the proceeds go to charity. That actually is a distinct difference between our company and Dr. Pepper. I know you're wondering, but John, what is the diet Dr. Pepper of socks? Well, I'll tell you our new ankle socks, which I don't have with me because we just started making them. So whether you like ankle socks or regular socks, awesomesocks.club, link in the doobly-doo. Hank, I will see you on Friday.


Here's the thing it's not about getting the guy to like you. It's really more about all right Let's talk about those four beautiful behaviors that men are just gonna be absolutely addicted to you So I want to be candid with everyone. This title is a joke. I'm sorry. It's a joke I know I might be pissing off some people right now, but I have to say this it's a click-baked title, okay?  They oftentimes are searching from a from a From a what's the word I'm looking for doing searching on relationship stuff And it's always about how to pretzel themselves for men How to pretzel themselves for men and I know this because so many of you women say to me Well, Jonathan, why aren't men doing this? Why aren't men listening to you? Why aren't men making all these changes? I agree with you I absolutely agree with you. I think part of the challenge is is that the real content Content you would be should be listening to you're not because you don't like the titles But you you hear this title and go okay great another way that I can get my guy to like me Here's the thing. It's not about getting the guy to like you.  That's What you should be thinking about and not whether or not he finds these traits beautiful with you with it within you Okay, at least that's my perspective on all this But if I gave if the title was different you wouldn't have clicked on it So we're gonna start with we're gonna tell you what you want to hear, but we're gonna give you what you need Okay So I want to lean into this conversation because it's so important to actually choose Partners in the early stage of dating that you actually are compatible with That with him as I said before a man that's capable of committing and more importantly a man who has Relationship skills because the vast majority of human beings have terrible Relationship skills if you're not familiar with my I'm gonna show two charts really quickly This is my emotional maturity relationship skills chart. Okay. Now by the way on the bottom here It says this is not a fact. This is opinion But roughly I believe roughly 20% of the population has clinical issues that makes it very difficult for them to actually Be in a healthy happy relationship doesn't mean they can't but it makes it very difficult now over here I say 20% of the population is emotionally healthy and has good skills I'm being ridiculously generous when I say that percentage because as you can see here in the middle It says dysfunctional is about 60% and that's probably closer to 65 70% I'm sorry to laugh, but it's the truth. How do I know this? Why do 50% of marriages end up in divorce? Why did the other half of people are married are miserable? Why are couples therapies offices booming? Because human beings weren't taught how to be in a healthy happy relationship Repeat that most human beings were never taught how to be in a healthy happy relationship In fact, we we most of our patterning has been based on what we Perceived our parents were if we were lucky to have parents because many people weren't and a lot of times people have witnessed dysfunctional Relationship with their parents and guess what that bleeds on to us that imprints on to us in addition, and this is the most important thing I want to say most human beings are completely clueless to the following understanding that Chemistry does not equal relationship success. Let me repeat that chemistry doesn't equal relationship success And yet most people are hyper focused on chemistry and romance in the early stage of dating instead of the more important things And if you're not familiar with my relationship iceberg, most of you are I want you to see above the water line says the word Attraction and you can see the tip of the iceberg is chemistry Below the water line. What does that word say? It says compatibility? What does compatibility consist of shared values blendable lifestyles and emotional maturity what I've been talking about emotional maturity and relationship skills so ladies I'm here to say stop focusing on all the ways to be beautiful with for a guy and start learning the mechanics to a healthy happy relationship And I know by the way, I know many of you don't agree with me You have a completely different perspective perspective on this and yet I'm here to say Why is the dating process so dysfunctional? Why are relationships so dysfunctional? It's because most people You know something I'm going to pause for a second I've observed that dating today, especially for midlife And this is particularly for those who aren't actively looking for someone to make babies with and start a family with But most people in midlife There's two types of people that are dating those people that want to grow with someone or Those people that just want to spend time with someone I'm repeat that someone who wants to grow with someone and someone who just wants to spend time with someone And here's the challenge whether your man or woman Probably 90% are operating from the I just want to spend time with you now I know women have a propensity to want commitment more so than men Okay, you might not but not necessarily to grow with a guy a lot of times You might want commitment from a place of codependency, but not from a place of growth and this is why I'm I hugely hugely Emphasize over and over again to understand the mechanics to a healthy happy Relationship if you want to grow with someone and before as I always say the penis goes inside the vagina You should be purchasing the book eight dates by doctors John and Julie Gottman eight dates by doctors John and Julie Gottman This teaches you the mechanics to a healthy happy relationship In other words when I mean by the mechanics that it sets you up with asking the right questions early on To determine does this person have relationship skills? Do they even want a committed relationship? Are we really compatible with one another and what was the third thing I said here? Oh, I forgot to include this and most importantly that he's into you, right? So you want to I'm gonna assume here for a second. You want a guy who is compatible with you who? Who wants commitment who has good relationship skills and who's into you so I get that the chemistry is an important piece? I'm not discounting that I'm just here to say Romance should be reserved for when you're in a relationship and not as a precursor to get into a relationship This is why my narrative is quite a bit different than most everyone's because it's more Most coaches focus on the attraction piece them and it's a Misinformed attraction piece because a lot of rhetoric out there tells women to just sit back in your feminine energy And the guy is gonna claim you well Let me just tell you this when you're dealing with a dysfunctional population Relationship wise I don't mean that people can't pay their bills and get to work on time or what not I'm talking about within a relationship Then it's gonna require looking at it from a different perspective and that's what I'm offering everyone here today Is to look at a different perspective. So these four beautiful behaviors come in a share And let me just say something to everyone. I get that It would be great if men were watching this Let me just say this would be and by the way more and more men are watching my channel I just saw earlier that someone in the chat box is a guy So that's good and I'm saying this because I'm a big believer of men learning Relationship skills as much as women It's just that women tend to purchase the relationship books ninefold greater than men So here's the thing you already have this wealth of knowledge. I'm here to encourage you to lean into Being to lean into how do I want to say this leading by example leading by example? That's what I want to encourage everyone to do. Okay, so we're gonna jump into those four behaviors in just a second So I'm gonna put on my trusty glasses. I actually got to clean my glasses really quick. I'll show you my notes bump bump bump And by the way the guy who's in the group just said amen to all the ladies that are reading these books And why I'm glad he said that because again leading by example is actually how you're going to bond with your guy And quite frankly, it's a better approach rather than creating the expectation that he knows what he's doing operate from the place of You are in charge of your relationship destiny and look I wish I could be there for you on first dates I'm your big brother. I wish I'd have the shotgun out there pointed at his nose and say what's your intentions with my little sister I wish I could do that for you. I want you to do that for yourself That's what I want to encourage everyone which kind of leads into our first of the four behaviors And that is I'm by the way everything I'm about to share here is going to be use the word mutual So I want you to start with mutual attitude and what I mean to say is Start acting like a guy start acting like a guy and what I mean to say here is men Don't traditionally give their power away to a woman in relationship not always but most of the time Men don't give their power away to a woman and yet sadly women Continually give their power away to men you continually it's always the relationship is predicated on on his terms Okay. Now the minute you make it. It's about a his terms that all of a sudden you're behind the eight ball because he's never going to do it The way you want it to be and he's operating the way he wants to so I'm here to say to adopt the The mindset that you are in charge of your relationship destiny and you never give your power away to a man This is in essence what I talked about in my book.   By the way links to all the books. I recommend are listed below This is a journey of personal development self-help and spiritual work So you can actually love yourself to the point where you're not actually giving your power away to a man Okay, and that's how and by the way since men don't necessarily give their power away to a woman in Relationship and what I mean by giving your power away Expecting the man all the content to call the time expecting the man to plan all the dates You know if the man is upset in the relationship It's all about why he's upset instead of looking inward These are just examples when the relationship is over you oftentimes focus on what's wrong with the guy What's wrong with the guy? What's wrong with the guy instead of looking inward and saying why did I choose this person? Why did I choose this person? You know looking inward looking Introspectively instead of focusing on guy is how you maintain your power So mutual attitude of don't give your power away now believe me There are plenty of dysfunctional men that give their power away. I get that but listen Sadly here in the United States most humans are suckling on the nipple of I need you to love me So I can feel good about myself. I repeat that. I need you to love me so I can feel good about myself I need you to love me I need you to validate me so I can feel good about myself and I'm here to say start operating from the place of I feel good about myself. I have my power my self-worth my self-confidence my self-esteem my self-reliance Because that is a very attractive and addictive quality to have in your life Number two.  It's actually very attractive It's a very by the way ladies admit it to me. You're attracted to cocky confident guys What's the same for us men? We do like that flirtation that boldness that brashness that sexiness the flirtation So start the you know, and I know it's difficult because listen folks It's incredibly difficult today because we're meeting total strangers We're meeting total strangers. We know so little about them and because of this Emotional intimacy isn't being built these days. I'm repeat that. Let me reframe that Emotional intimacy isn't being built which means emotional safety isn't being experienced I'm repeat that emotional safety isn't being experienced Do you know what emotional safety is is being in a relationship trusting that that person Cares as much about your feelings as you care about your feelings yourself I'm repeat that that's emotional safety when you know that you're what that's trust basically when you know You're with someone who's that they care about your feelings as much as you care about your feelings So isn't it fascinating how quickly people will have sex and they won't know each other's last names They won't know each other's birth dates. They don't even know each other's favorite colors We know so little about people and this is why I'm leaning into this and this is why I've been lately talking about the book Talking to strangers how to get to know the people we don't know folks. Let me just tell you something It required listen Chemistry and romance isn't going to rate each equal relationship success. What's going to equal relationship success? Emotional intimacy and emotional safety and and that means it's time to be radically honest with One another. This is why lately. I've been recommending the book by Robert Masters called emotional intimacy. By the way, both these books I recommend These are tough reads. These are easy reads. You may want to get the audio version of it but it's because of a lack of depth that Many of these relationships are fizzling out because it's hyper focused on attraction and chemistry and not enough building the heart space This is why I've been I recommend this book over and over because it throws out the bullshit gender rhetoric and Starts to talk about how to date from a heart-centered space and this is why I recommend if the Buddha dated if the Buddha dated by the way Check out the links below Okay, number and by the way what I'm about to share next is exactly from the book if the Buddha dated and it's what I call Mutual effort mutual effort you know The dating process Expectation is the man is the leader of the dating process. Okay, let me just tell you this to men that is Draining that is exhausting when it's always the man initiating text messaging and man initiating planning dates and and whatnot That's exhausting and draining to men This is why a lot of men begin to bread crumb because the expectation is all on us I'm here to invite mutual effort and I got to tell you mutual effort is addictive and sexy and Attractive I've shared this story before I'm going to share it again. This is an example of mutual effort. I Was on a date some years ago We went to a dive bar and I paid for the first round of drinks And when it was time to pay for the second round She reaches for a credit card and hands it to the bartender and I go no No, I got it. She goes I got it and I go no. No, I got it. She goes I got it We got into a little pissing match.  I mean it wasn't for fun But I mean that's what happened now a lot now because my traditional upbringing said I have to pay things That's the way I was taught. Okay. That's where I was raised So what she did next blew me away She put her hand on my arm and looked me straight in the eye and said Jonathan I really appreciated you treated that last round Would you allow me to show my appreciation by treating you because you're worth it to me? Can you receive? I mean, I was in shock. I was in absolute shock what she said I was floored and in that I and then that moment. I said wow This person could be a partner in my life and while it didn't work out because we had other differences What I appreciated most was the effort You know what? Making mutual effort and it doesn't have to be tit for tat and it's not about paying for dates It's about looking at each other's life right from the very beginning and making mutual effort What did I write down here is another example? Anyways, I forgot I had some notes here and I forgot what it was but my point is Mutual effort because here's the thing to build that intimacy to build that deeper connection And by the way, that effort could be he's paying for the dates and you're initiating the emotional intimacy That's a balance in effort. Okay. I'm here to say most men don't know how to connect to their heart It takes a woman for a man to connect to his heart and that's what I'm inviting you to do making mutual effort instead of in your feminine By the way, most folks know I can't stand that and it's because that Feminine energy coaching to me is princess energy coaching and it just sets you up for failure in the long run Especially if you're in midlife it can set you back and thankfully many of you have been saying the same in the comments Okay, number four is What I call mutual adoration mutual adoration by the way, did you notice I use mutual and all this because I'm not making this one-sided and Mutual adoration in particular in each person's authority in life in each person's authority in life. So let me give you an example Whether I'm an authority or not I am actually a very successful dating a relationship coach I'm probably in the top five percent in the whole country And I'm I'm basing that probably on income and there's probably people that make way more than me and 95% of people make no money by the way all the dating advice out there that the dating coaches you watch 95% of them barely make a dollar Okay, and I'm not saying it's about the money, but I will say this people are successful at what they do tend to be better at What they do so coming back to what I do for a living, you know My heart yearns for a woman and goes wow, I admire what you do. I admire your authority I admire your confidence what you do and by the way a man should be doing the same in your authority in life Whatever that is Whatever that is in fact, I have a friend you I've talked about my Pilates instructor quite a bit By the way, we are not dating we would never date because we're brother and sister But I really appreciate her authority because she's helping me retrain my back And I find that incredibly attractive so appreciate and adore someone's authority in life and their their particular authority because that Look at we all need Mediation to some degree and so when we when we spend time focusing on the more important things instead of criticism contempt defensiveness and stonewalling and we focus more on on Appreciation on attention on affection on acceptance when we focus more in that area That's highly attractive in the long run and that's what we'll be addicted to So let me repeat this one more time Mutual attitude start to think don't give your power away Mutual mental foreplay be cocky before be sexy be brash be flirty number three mutual efforts Don't expect by the way men don't have the capacity to do it all on themselves You have to make effort and this starts from the very first date and lastly mutual adoration mutual adoration all right, I Think we covered a lot today All right, it's time to jump to our Q&A for those listening right now Let's all I hope this content provided value again. I want to say this look it I know these titles Are most most are designed to get you to click what I'm here to say is what's most important in your life is Loving on yourself. It's not about whether or not the guy cares about you. What matters most is you care about you and Choose men who are compatible With you that want commitment that have relationship skills and most importantly that you're into each other Because the best part about being in a relationship is parking on a regular basis So choose not focusing on the sex focusing on those other things because the sex is just the icing on the cake when you have Emotional intimacy which I said earlier leads to emotional safety and when you can feel that level of trust with someone That's the kind of relationship. I'm hoping that we all get to experience at some point in our lives All right, I'm gonna wrap up this live stream as I always do first off post a comment below if you're resonated with you Have any questions? I do my best to read them all please share this with your friends. There's links to my coaching There's a link to my membership group There's a link to my Instagram if you want to follow me on Instagram and also my book and everything I recommend All right, I'm gonna wrap up this video as I always do first off Give myself a big gigantic troth America self love. I'm gonna reach into the camera and give you a hug of love If that's okay I'm gonna ask you to turn to someone a pet a teddy bear pillow and give it or them a hug of love Because hugs are a great source of love and let's face it. We could all use more love in our lives I want to thank Patricia and grace and roller girl and sherry