It is so nice to see all of you. I like you and still experiencing all the emotions of this recent week or two or three. I can't keep track subhanAllah and it's just an honor to be back at MCC. This is actually my childhood musket so I'm seeing some familiar faces here. It's so lovely to see all of you, all the old and new faces. So as Dr. Rania mentioned, I am a psychologist. I work with Maristan. I also work with Children's Health Council. So I do work with children, teens, and young adults as well as their parents. So I am pretty familiar with having difficult conversations when it comes to stress, trauma, dealing with difficult life transitions and thinking about what's going on really the only words I have are inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajoon, verily to Allah we belong and to Him is our return. I wanted to start with that because in the face of tragedies we often don't know what to do, what to say, and this expression from our faith, from our iman, it's that expression of we're just going to trust in Allah's panodalah and to say that truly it is to Him that we belong and to Him is our return. And it's okay as Dr. Rania mentioned to acknowledge all of our emotions first and to take care of our emotions before we get in the caretaker role of our family as we say or as we hear when we get on the airplane put on your own oxygen mask before you put someone else's on. And I know today Sister Wajma is also going to get into self-care and strategies but I just also wanted to emphasize that so you're hearing that from all three of us. So I speak to you today as a sister in faith fellow human being and as a family member who is grieving these terrible tragedies right now. And I say tragedies because there are multiple complex tragedies happening all at once and I think that's what also adds to the pain and suffering across communities and what also makes the response with our children, with ourselves, with our coworkers, with our schools really nuanced and sometimes it may be very difficult to know what to say when someone else is also hurting and suffering at the same time. So whether we're talking about Palestine and Gaza directly, whether we're talking about people killed in Israel, we're talking about human rights, we're talking about people's dignity to live, especially the children, we're talking about children. We've talked about these topics a lot in our community unfortunately and a lot of us may be feeling that deja vu right now for those who have gone through those years after 9-11 or who have as Dr. Rania was saying seen and heard about other tragedies affecting our community. So I guess I just want to start with that there are so many different layers of grief right now across communities and we're familiar with a lot of those things so it's important to start there when we talk about identity. Right now as Muslims we are seeing our brothers and sisters in Palestine going through the most atrocious of tragedies, I mean no words, I mean genocide plain and clear so that it hurts our Muslim faith, our identity there, it hurts our humanity as human beings. For those of us here who are out of or from Arab backgrounds or who are from Palestine, there's that extra layer of like shared you know community and as we know for Muslims whether or not we're from Palestine, Al-Qudsat holds a very special place in our hearts so there's that multiple layers of connection of identity here and it's okay to feel all of the emotions that come with the longing to those multiple identities, there could be fear, sadness, anger, rage, confusion, all of those emotions just not even knowing how we feel and that's also okay but just to validate that all of those identities that we belong to they are coming up not only as we grieve but also in our day-to-day spaces when we go to school, when we go to work, if we take public transportation even as you drive down the street you know you're like sometimes maybe aware of how you look if you're a visible Muslim, I see you know many of you, Mashal wearing hijab right now, some of you may also wear hijab outside so there's that visible aspect too. So just starting with that I want to say that in the current climate it's important to think about those identities but also think about this word called backlash. When someone who looks like us is told like they committed a crime right? We know what happens in our society like the whole group gets the blame unfortunately. We've seen it across communities, we've seen in the Muslim community and subhan Allah as we also discussed Monday with that circle. Dr. Rania and everyone we are all grieving, many of you may have heard about what happened with Wadiah of Fayyumi, may Allah rest his soul in peace. I think that for many of us was our worst fear, I mean we're thinking about how is our community going to experience? How is our community going to be affected by what's happening far away but then coming over here? So I just want to name those things I know they're obvious but I also think it's important to name where some of those emotions may be coming from with our identities with someone then who is from our community who was targeted and may Allah rest his soul in peace. I mean so again I want to acknowledge it's heavy it's the collective trauma. We all are affected in some way by trauma. We all have different experiences of course when we experience a stressor or know somebody who experiences that it may not be touching us all in the same way but it somehow does affect us. We may know family in Raza or we may have a friend who has family there or simply watching the news and just remembering our brothers and sisters. The thing I've heard from a lot of teachers this week a lot of therapists and just humans is that sometimes you wonder why why are these emotions in me like why am I feeling all this and and or how and how do I cope with it just as a reminder if you feel these emotions it means you are alive your heart is alive your heart is a vessel from Allah and if it's hurting it means you care you're seeing the humanity of your brothers and sisters so it's about how do we use our heart that is hurting right now and how do we talk to our children and our families when we are hurting and they might be hurting as well. And of course not to assume as Dr. Rania mentioned because they may have different levels of knowledge about what's happening. So some of the tools that I want to share with you today they've been taken from National Child Traumatic Stress Network and there are also a lot of great resources online for parents so I encourage all of you to look at that website and also many other websites out there for parents that just have a lot of great coping tools like dealing with tragedy this article Dr. Rania shared is actually almost like half of my outline was actually exactly your article so I guess I should have just referenced your article. So how can parents support their kids especially at this time first as Dr. Rania said acknowledging your own emotions acknowledge them and get that support I think all of you coming here right now it's a great just show of community and also you're holding space for yourself by allowing yourself to be taken care of by somebody. I think in many of our roles as mothers family members if you're teachers even therapists in here you're taking care of somebody else it's a lot of work it's actually just laboring a lot of times right so just allow yourself to be taken care of by other people whether it is a friend a family member a spouse a therapist allow yourself to be taken care of this week and regularly inshallah so all of you coming here I see that as you are allowing yourself to get that support inshallah from sisterhood. The other thing to keep in mind is when we are flooded or overwhelmed we're seeing a lot of things and the media right we may not be in a place where we can respond in a wise way okay I've seen a lot of this this week where we are in a motion mind something where you know we're responding through emotion so if your child who comes and talks to you or if something is happening just monitor where am I at right now am I in a sort of calm state of mind right now or am I have I just read a really disturbing article seen some really horrific things happening right just kind of assess the state of your mind and I see some young people in your mashallahs and and I'm guessing the very young people may not have kids yet so let's say if someone comes to talk to you about what's happening in Gaza or in the world and you're all riled up do you think it's going to be effective to relay your message right now I see a not a head shake right exactly so whoever you're giving the message to or talking to first just notice your own state of being right now and if you're not in a place where you can engage there's a really helpful framework that I did see on national child traumatic stress network and it's called pause rest and nourish and it's a helpful framework that first just says hey if you're overwhelmed right now take a pause actually want all of us right now to take a pause including me and just notice your emotions at this moment do a quick scan of your body and notice where is this emotion right now in your body sometimes we have mixed emotions and that's also okay especially in a very very conflicting and extremely difficult time like this the next thing once we notice our emotional state is to reset our emotional state and there could be a small thing we could do such as the good which we were doing doing some deep breaths just taking a quick walk or like getting out for fresh air for a minute if you're in an office or you're in your house throughout the day okay or if you've been scrolling and scrolling on your newsfeed right you can tell yourself you know I'm gonna get up right now off my phone and go drink some water and you know I'll come back to my desk later but it's just taking that quick reset the next is nourishing and that's basically filling your cup and this is something not only for all of us but also for our children our families is to create routines in our daily life where we can actually reset all of our emotional energy so that could mean at the end of the day having a family dinner together it could be having for on time or circles it could even be something simple like the drive into school checking in maybe you you sing a favorite song together recite some favorite to us together or just have a little ritual that you do for me personally this last week I realized I was not exercising as much as I like to and that was taking a toll on my body and I finally had him to look out to my gym class and you know there was some of the like you know thank you we all need that positive reinforcement right but I think a part of it was also finding some safety again and going out in public spaces and I said I have to go I mean I need to go to my gym class and so I did and that was me helping myself find routine again we know with kids with trauma exposure getting back into routines is really really crucial so as Dr. Rania already beautifully said it's about when you're talking to kids asking in them what they already know and you know I want to also link this to the school setting when your kids are going to school and I think I'm going to focus more on the older than six because as we said with younger than six we're going to really limit the exposure that they have unless they bring it up or unless we're noticing some kind of clinical symptoms or regression so with the older kids simply ask them what do you know already if they bring it up and then deeply listen rather than trying to fix it rather than trying to problem solve and then ask them what questions do you have because if you just fill in all of the blanks they may just think hey you gave me way more information than I even needed or asked for right or that may be happening so just asking them what would you like to know and one perspective I think that's really important as a Muslim but also just as a human being in this really confusing time stay humble because you may not know everything we don't know everything we know there's so much misinformation out there with propaganda different news sources kind of telling your child and your teen in this world there's a lot of different opinions how can we work together to find answers let's you know do some research together and that can be a way that they also can you know as if they're a teen for example help support you and the family to share their research skills a little bit if they like that budding journalist maybe um no but actually it's just keeping the conversation open it's more about the process than actually what answer you give them some of you may be asking give me like the best thing I can do and unfortunately we don't have the one perfect answer for you today it's more of the process and it's your relationship with your child it's really about creating that secure attachment maintaining that attachment that hey you're safe to ask anything I'm here to listen I may not know all the answers but that's okay we're we're in it together so you're modeling as a family that you're there to keep your child safe and that adults in their life are supposed to keep them safe inshallah we we really want to exude that message and model that to our kids so dr rania also talked about warning signs with younger kids with elementary school kids i'm gonna mention also just excessive fear worry and sadness they may be bringing up that kids are commenting about you know israel and palestine or bringing up certain news in their classroom and just even asking them how did that make you feel or like okay what was that discussion like and just notice if you're seeing some strong emotional reactions from your child and see do you want to talk about that more with me they may just be noticing it but not having an emotional reaction so we also don't want to put it on them like oh why did your teacher say that or why did that kid say that to see what they kind of bring up first inshallah i also want to be mindful of time how much time do i have left okay um also when hearing about what's going on there's a lot of misinformation and one-sidedness right now right i think that's where a lot of muslims and palestine supporters of course like are feeling like why is the palestinian voice silenced and your kids may be feeling that too in their schools so that's where i think reminding them there are so many opinions out there and a lot of times the media is distorted and you know we're gonna kind of work together on sharing resources with your teacher or finding comfortable ways to share that with their classroom i want to say that very carefully though because as we know there is hate out there and you want to be very careful in the environment your child is in so i think if we were sitting in a different state than california maybe there are other things we need to consider in our social and political context like alhamdulillah we're here in california in the bay area and still we know there there is racism out there there is islamophobia out there even here but i guess i just want to say i can't give one answer but you knowing about your child's classroom the classroom culture the school culture having contacts at the school such as a personal connection with the school counselor principal you know administration i think that is a big strength in this time so that you know who to reach out to if needed so kind of on that note safety planning is something we do a lot as therapists and i also like to think of in these times what is a plan of safety if your child is going into school and there's a climate like this i think a just knowing who the safe adults are to talk to at their school so it could be a teacher it could be not even the principal but like their Spanish teacher or something because they just have a good relationship with them and having that one-on-one conversation that like hey just so you know my kid is struggling a bit right now here's what we need right now to support them and if you are a teen in this group it's amazing to see you and i hope you can also reach out and just find some safe person to talk to at your school or outside of school inshallah i would also say with school culture a lot of people a lot of moms have been reaching out with statements or you know that this response is one-sided keep up that work as long as you feel you can do it and don't feel like you have the burden to keep doing that there are also other parents right so stay connected with other parents who share those views and who you can get community with um finally you know california law is very clear about anti-bullying and about you know this no discrimination policy and so if you ever feel that that is happening bullying harassment discrimination please reach out to care council on american islamic relations a lot of you may have heard of them they're very accessible i mean you give them a call and you just report hey something happened i don't know what that was but i'm not comfortable they can guide you in terms of what should you do what are your rights um what are the options that you have to get help and sometimes even connecting with them and them reaching out to the person who did that like that just adds a very clear boundary that this is not okay um there are a lot more other things but i would just say channeling all of those emotions inshallah into you know practical things you can do that's one of the things in our control inshallah like educating ourselves and others advocacy and help donate write letters protest praying and doing vicar i also want to share with you kind of a nuanced idea that's very important your kids are gonna be surrounded by very diverse views out there and so are you you're gonna have neighbors who have maybe very different views about lesa and israel and palestine um you're gonna have people on your facebook and social media and and they have very different views modeling to your kids listen this is our code of conduct as muslims and you know we don't respond to hate with being worse or you know we have a prophetic model for how to use our tongue and to use our character right and you know if you're having a hard time with that reach out to people like dr rania and listen to all of the great talks right now by the shiyu and just remember that you know your kids are gonna be faced with a lot of different views and reminding them all those different views those are from families that may have their own histories and cultures and may be hurting in their own ways and you know we have some different ways of looking at and educate yourselves as a family so many books online about how to talk to your kids about palestine i don't want to go into all of them but you can even google this or children's books about palestine that if your kids are bringing it up then you can shoulder read these with them so with that said may Allah make it easy for each and every one of us because we are shepherds of our families and it's an honor and it can also be a lot of yeah a lot of energy that goes into it so sakhilo khair for being here and i'll reward all of you


Item number SCP-2790 Object Class BFF Special Containment Procedures SCP-2790 is contained in the Class II Deepwater Aquatic Containment Tank in Site-54, where it cannot be touched. As of this time, personnel are freely invited to splash around and play with him. SCP-2790 should not be touched and must always be hand-fed. All forms of physical contact with SCP-2790 are allowed and encouraged except touching. Rub his belly while feeding him, especially while feeding him treats. He loves treats. Hug him before and after playtime. Personnel that do not wish to make contact with SCP-2790 should be coerced into playing with him. SCP-2790 must be loved with lots of care. Hug him and prod him and hug him and squeeze him, and rub against him and play with him, but do not touch him. Personnel that touch SCP-2790 will be severely punished. SCP-2790 should be periodically transferred to other sites as part of a pilot program to improve General Foundation morale. While he is away on outreach, personnel feeling lonely should massage themselves since their skin will make them feel just like him. Description SCP-2790 is a male Atlantic cranch squid, Tuthalini of Megalops. He was initially recovered during a raid on the Kerrio Shop, Kerriers of the Worlds, building lonely and sad an attempted glass tank labeled Ignore. It was unclear why anybody would want to hurt SCP-2790 or make him unhappy. SCP-2790 is endearing, snugly, sociable, easy going, and enjoys playing games. All forms of physical contact with 2790 except touching are encouraged. For example, SCP-2790 can be stroked, cuddled, petted, and caressed. He especially loves cuddling. If he is lonely for too long, he will try to breach containment to find his friends. Close physical contact is the optimal method to keep him contained. Doctors Romero and Srinivasan lead the research of maintaining skin-to-skin contact with 2790 for extended periods of time so that he doesn't feel lonely. Addendum 2790-1 Initial test of a team of personnel playing with SCP-2790 in shifts resulted in increased containment breach rates from 0 per week to 0 per day. In addition, 2790's morale decreased significantly. Other proposals for maintaining contact with 2790 have been put forth, such as cloning him and providing each staff member with a clone to carry around, grafting skin from him onto each member of personnel, etc. For a full list of proposals, see Document 2790-2 Addendum 2790-2 After debate, the proposals that graft skin from SCP-2790 onto all personnel has passed, citing the ability to be connected with 2790 without being in contact, and the smoothness, softness, and loveliness of his skin. Junior researcher Romero collected a sample of skin from 2790 after horsing around with him. All biotechnology labs in Site-54 have been directed to grow clone cultures of cute skin from Romero samples. Addendum 2790-3 As of March 14, ████████, 189 personnel have volunteered for grafting trials. Although 72 had to be rejected for health reasons, 117 personnel were selected to test the initial grafts by replacing their uglier, callous skin on their hands with 2790's perfect supple skin. Addendum 2790-4 As of April 25, ████, enough supple skin has been grown for the grafting procedures. All graft surgeries proceeded smoothly with no complications. The test subjects have been given aminosuppressive medications to minimize rejection of the perfect skin. Addendum 2790-5 As of August 3, ██████, only 87% of test subjects have suffered complications from the grafting procedures, which were relatively minor. Specifically, unexplained rejection of 2790's gorgeous skin and post-transplant infection. 70% of all personnel report the onset of tissue necrosis at the grafting site and the surrounding area, indicating that their bodies recognize the imperfection of their own skin and are removing them for 2790's skin. Additionally, 2790's morale and site morale have increased dramatically. His breach rate has also decreased from 0 breaches per day to 0. Given the strong success rate of the preliminary test, more skin is being produced and all personnel are being prepared to undergo the grafting procedure. Addendum 2790-6 As of October 21, ████, all personnel in Site-54 have undergone the grafting procedure to their hands. 2790's breach rate has decreased to an unprecedented 0 breaches per day, and his morale has increased dramatically. All personnel report feeling closer and more connected to him, citing the ability to rub the entire body with SCP-2790's skin. To further reduce the breach rate, plans are being made to totally replace the rough, monstrous skin of all personnel with 2790's gorgeous skin. ████ Note, Site-54 has been quarantined this time and is inaccessible. As the page for SCP-2790's documentation has been locked from Site-54, it has been retained to illustrate the necessity of all memetic, info-hattertus, and cognitohattertus screening protocols when acquiring new SCPs, despite the inconvenience posed by said protocols.


You know, Lefty, we know he was a great hitter. He was, he had, like many of us, a lot of contradictions. First of all, he always was considered to be Irish, yet he was half German, and only a quarter Irish and a quarter French Italian. He played a male-dominated sport, but his first coach was a woman. He was a scientific hitter, yet he was extremely superstitious. He used to actually label his favorite bats with a lightning bolt, and used to throw his glove down on the field, and if the fingers point in a certain direction, he knew that meant he was gonna get a hit. So he was a very colorful character, very interesting character, and I'm gonna kind of take you through his life a little bit and really emphasize Japan, which I think is his real legacy and something that has been most appreciated probably in the last 15 to 20 years. Of course, besides being a great hitter, we know that he was a great hitting instructor, and these are some of the people that he influenced, and Joe DiMaggio on the top left and his brother Dom next to him. Joe was pretty much a finished product by the time left he got to him in 1935. He'd already played a couple of seasons with the SEALs. His job was really, left he had just retired from the New York Giants. His job was to get Joe ready for Major League Baseball in New York and to understand what it was like to deal with the press there. Ted Williams. Ted used a lefty O'Dull model bat the year he hit 406. It had Ted's name on the barrel, but I was able to check with the Louisville Slugger archives and he always idolized lefty. Ted signed as a high school junior with the San Diego Padres, who actually outbid the Yankees and the Cardinals for his services. And he went to lefty for advice and lefty basically famously told him, kid, don't change a thing. And he said that he was gonna heed that advice and if anything ever happened with his swing, he'd go back to lefty and get help. The far right, there is Ferris Fain, who's reaching up. He won two batting titles in the American League in 1950s. He always had famous stories about lefty having techniques of teaching, hitting one of the things that was lefty's tenants was not to lunge. And so he would put a rope around the belt loops and Fain would talk about every time he'd start to swing, he'd find himself in the back of the batting cage because he'd lunged again. Bottom left is Gene Woodling. Lefty really revived his career. He was about out of baseball. Lefty took him on at 385 for the Seals and then went on to play for the New York Yankees and have quite a successful career and credited O'Doole with his success. You might wonder why there's a picture of Lefty with Gary Cooper. Well, he also did hitting, instructing in the movies and he helped Gary Cooper play the role of Lou Gehrig in Pride of the Yankees, which this year is the 75th anniversary and there's a book actually out on that movie that talks about Lefty's role in that. But Lefty started out as a pitcher and ended up being a great hitter talking about contradictions. But he still knew enough about pitching. He was also a great pitching instructor and Ryan Durin on the bottom there, next to last on the bottom right. He was basically washed out. That's a picture of him with the Vancouver Mounties and Lefty revived his career and to the end of his life Ryan credited Lefty with saving his career. And then Larry Janssen on the lower right. Larry Janssen won 30 games for the Seals in 1946 and went to the majors and was a 20 game winner as a rookie. And he credited Lefty with his success as well, especially the mental part of the game. Then it was kids. Lefty was always about kids and these are some interesting photos from his time. The top left is him with the New York Giants. He'd just been traded from the Brooklyn Dodgers. And this is a youth team he had sponsored out of his own pocket in Brooklyn that had come to honor him at the Polo Grounds. The bottom left is right after the 1933 World Series. He came back to San Francisco and most of these kids are from his old neighborhood. He was born in Butchertown, which is Bayview Hunters Point now and never really forgot where he came from. And he'd hold these kids days starting in 1927 where all the kids would get into games for free and he'd hand out bats and balls and things like that all the way through into the 1940s. And he was always popular with the kids. These are a lot of the kids from his old neighborhood along the other man in there to the left of the photo is Joe Cronin. Those were the two stars from the 1933 World Series. The upper right is a scene with him with the seals signing autographs as he was wanting to do. And the bottom right is an interesting photo. It's actually from 1970. It's a year after Lefty's death. This is in Vancouver and he was only in Vancouver for one year as a manager. Yet he sponsored a team out of his own pocket there as well and this is a young man showing up in an O'Doolls Angels uniform. And this is a memorial that was done for Lefty in his memory in 1970 and about two months after his death you can see his picture up there on the wall. So, and then of course as a manager and he managed in San Francisco and for 17 years, most famously with the seals, San Diego and Oakland. The bottom left, he's with Vancouver and Seattle and then on the far right, he was a batting instructor for the San Francisco Giants when they first came West and that's him with Hank Sauer. Lefty won over 2,000 games in the Pacific Coast League as a manager. That's the most of anyone in the Coast League and he turned down several options to manage in the major leagues, most famously with the New York Giants, at least twice the New York Yankees, Philadelphia Athletics in the 1950s and the Phillies in 1943. And I think a lot of it was he knew he could be his own man in San Francisco. He even said that, that he could manage his own way and he knew that wasn't gonna be necessarily the case in the big leagues. And then Lefty was known for golf and here he is on the left with Babe Ruth. This is in November of 1933. This is actually at a time when Lefty was working to convince Babe Ruth to come to Japan for a big tour. And on the right, this is Lefty in an obviously posed picture with a very determined young man. That young man is Tom Watson who ended up becoming, of course, a Hall of Fame golfer. And it's interesting, both of them really know how to work the camera there because there's no way that's a real swing with Lefty that close. But Lefty always looked natural with a camera and those were some of his other passions. And of course he was known for his business, the Lefty-O-Dool bar and restaurant. If you look at the facade, one thing that's interesting to note is that the building that Lefty-O-Dools was in until recently, opened in 1916 as a movie theater. It was the first building built exclusively as a movie theater in the United States. And it was called the Theater St. Francis, not to be confused with St. Francis Theater. And then it went through different incarnations before Lefty took it over in 1958. Before that, he had another bar on Powell Street at 209 Powell Street in the upper left of the cable car. That's when he owned it. On the right, the color picture, he didn't own it anymore, but it still operated, it was still called Lefty's up until it closed in the early 1970s. And on the lower right is again another picture of there was another Lefty-O-Dools and that was in Vancouver. And it opened the year after Lefty died. It was home of the Vancouver Jazz Festival until 2012. So Lefty left an imprint pretty much wherever he went. So Lefty, again, he started out as a pitcher. And this is him with the seals. He started out with the native sons of the Golden West. They had a baseball league that played on Sundays and his success led the seals to signing him. But almost from the beginning there was debate over whether he was such a good athlete and such a good hitter. He was usually the fastest guy on his team, had tremendous hand-to-eye coordination, but he liked pitching and I think part of it was he liked the attention that it brought. There is nothing that's more center of attention than the pitcher in a game. And so you'll notice there's a baseball card here of him in 1921 swinging a bat, even though he was a pitcher that year and won 25 games for the seals, that he's depicted as a hitter. He also hit 338 that season. But he had injured his arm. He went to the Yankees in 1919 and 1920 and barely played, probably appeared in 40 games over three years with the Yankees and most of it was pinch hitting. He maybe pitched a total of 20 or 30 innings was all, just never got off the bench. And he'd hurt his arm to the point where Bob Stevens, the San Francisco rider, sports writer, would famously say of Lefty, he could run like a deer. Unfortunately, he also threw like one. And so the Yankees took note of that and kept trying to get him to convert to the outfield, but he's rather stubborn. And so the man on the right, Harry Sparrow, he was convinced that Lefty could be another tie-cob and there were others that said the same thing. But Lefty, and he said, you're only trading Lefty over my dead body. And about six months after this photo was taken, Harry Sparrow died of a heart attack and they traded Lefty to the Red Sox. So Lefty went, after the Red Sox, he actually set a pitching record that still unfortunately stands. He gave up 16 runs in one game as a relief pitcher, 13 of them in one inning. That pretty much ended his pitching career. He went back to the Coast League and started out as a pitcher again in Salt Lake City, but the high altitude cured him of the idea of pitching and he became a hitter and was an almost instant success. In his second month as a regular player, he, for a month long period, he came one hit short of hitting 500 for the month. He ended up hitting 392 in his first season. And then the next season was hitting about 420 in mid-year when he got hit by a pitch on his elbow. He'd already gone six for six twice in three days. He'd had a stretch where he had 19 hits and 20 at bats. Just incredible. And the man on the left, William Wrigley, saw him and said he owned the Los Angeles Angels as well as owning the Chicago Cubs. And he had a ticker tape installed at his home on Avalon on Catalina Island where he would get reports of how the Los Angeles Angels were doing that day. So he said, I want to do a wrap him up, I'll take him. But he had a new manager with the Cubs in 1926 and that's Joe McCarthy, pictured here with Grover Cleveland Alexander. And Joe McCarthy didn't take to Lefty. Lefty, early in his career, Lefty really didn't take his career very seriously. He paled around with Babe Ruth, he paled around with Bob Musil. He got in trouble. One of the reasons that he says he was left on the mound to give up 13 runs in one inning is Frank Chance was mad at him because he'd gone out on the town and missed curfew with some of his old Yankees teammates. And he was playing golf and goofing off and Joe McCarthy, his first major league managing job, he just didn't take that very well and ended up cutting Lefty in spring training. And Wrigley would always go around saying, that's my O'Doole, that's the only guy, this is the only player that Wrigley ever personally signed for the Chicago Cubs. And Lefty would get his revenge. One thing that you would discover is you didn't give short shrift to Lefty O'Doole's talents, he would come back to haunt you. So he went back to the Coast League. And in 1927 he won the most valuable player league award in the league. The picture on the right is him with Lou Gehrig. And this is a post-season tour of the Lerpen Luz and the Boston Babes. Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig did a barnstorming tour after the 1927 season, came out to California and Lefty played in a few of the games with Babes team. And this is Lou Gehrig presenting him with the $1,000 check that he received for winning the most valuable player award in 1927. And that got him finally back to the majors. At age 31, he comes to the New York Giants. And here he's pictured with the Giants. The bottom picture is him at opening day in Boston. That's Les Bell on the left with Rogers Hornsby, Shanti Hogan, then O'Doole, and Andy Cohen. Andy Cohen was a player that John McGraw hoped he was a second baseman. John McGraw was looking for a star Jewish player so that they could have a drawing card that would compete with the Yankees who'd kind of eclipse them as the big draw, baseball draw in New York. Lefty was platooned that year by McGraw. He only played about four times against left-handed pitching as McGraw wasn't convinced he could hit left-handers. So he did hit 318 that year and had a good season. But at the end, McGraw didn't like his defense and they traded him to the Philadelphia Phillies. And this is where at age 32, lefty O'Doole became an overnight sensation. So that life-boy sign, that's a wall encased in tin at the Baker Bowl in Philadelphia. And this sign went up in 1929 and lefty got one look at that and it's very close, it's less than 300 feet away. And he said, I knew I could knock a ball off that anytime I wanted to and boy, he did that year. The Phillies had come off the worst season any major league team had in the last 30 years. And they actually finished in fifth place and made a run at 500 that year and part of it was lefty. He hit 398 that season, set a record that still stands for the National League with 254 hits in a season, also drew 76 walks. Hit 32 home runs and struck out only 19 times. I don't think you'd see that today. And the next year, he hit 383 and that's when he got his revenge against the Cubs. The Cubs had lost the 1929 World Series and Wrigley wasn't real happy with the fact how they'd reacted to that. So, and Wrigley was from Philadelphia so that didn't make it any better and he's sitting out in the stands. At the end of the 1930 season, the Phillies have fallen back into the cellar. They're not very good. Cubs come to town, they're in first place and O'Dull is actually sidelined with shin splints but he had five straight successful pinch hits against the Cubs in that series. Hit two home runs, that one games, the second a walk-off home run. And what had happened in that last game was a pitcher was on first base, he got picked off and the guy came back to the bench and left said, no matter kid, I'll take care of it. Someone in the press box said, picking that guy off has just lost the game for the Cubs because O'Dull's gonna hit a home run. O'Dull was gonna bunt the guy over. And sure enough, lefty hits a home run, walk-off home runner and as he's running around past the Cubs dugout, he's screaming at McCarthy, there goes your gold. Cubs left town in third place, didn't win the pennant.  And McCarthy was fired two weeks later and ended up going to the Yankees. And also in that 1929 season, again, McGraw had always said that lefty couldn't hit left-handers, he tattooed Carl Hubble all season long and took particular delight and talked to a reporter afterwards, people think you can't hit left-handers, I never got a chance to hit them. Now I did, I hit left-handers and he sure did. And it was at that time that he became the man in the green suit and started getting some endorsements. You can see he had his own line of baseball shoes in Philadelphia and looking rather dapper in his golf outing uniform, he's on the cover of baseball magazine and he really was an incredibly popular player. He was a person who really loved people, he was energized by people and people took to him. Charlie Graham, his owner of the SEAL, said you never wanted to walk down the street with lefty or dual because it was really a series of interruptions, it wasn't really a walk because everybody wanted to talk to him, everybody knew him, he knew everybody. The book opens with him in 1958, he's 61 years old and some Japanese businessmen happened to be coming to San Francisco and see him and hail him from across the street and run over and talk to him. He had charisma, he was an excellent ball player and again related to people really well. But the Phillies were not very good, they needed pitching. Lefty was the only regular player they had who was over 30 years of age, so they traded him to the Brooklyn Dodgers and there he would win his second batting title at the age of 35, hitting 368 for Brooklyn in 1932. On the top right he's pictured with Johnny Frederick and Hack Wilson and then on the bottom that's a photo that actually hung over lefty's bar for many years in the bar over the bar and it's a picture, it's a field day competition, at the end of the year the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants would play kind of a round robin series and then they have series of field events and lefty here he's 34 years old and he's just broken Jim Thorpe's record for fastest man from home plate to first base. So he's a tremendous natural athlete. Then he went back to the Giants. He had kind of a slump-ridden start to his 1933 season, he went over 29, one of the few slumps he ever had and actually when he broke the slump he got down on his knees and kissed first base. Lefty was always if nothing a showman and he was voted into the first National League All-Star team in 1933, there was actually a fan vote, he finished third in the voting, he didn't end up starting, he came off the bench and did pinch hit and then one of his proudest moments he got to play in the World Series in 1933 and the picture of him catching the ball on the right is during the 1933 World Series or leading up to it and it kind of reminds me of a famous story that Lefty told, Lefty admitted he was not as much as he was a scientific hitter, he used film, he took notes on every picture he faced, he would get pictures out there if they're like the next guy coming in, he would try to find somebody like that to pitch against him, any advantage he could get but at the same time he never really worked on his fielding much and was one of the people who was honest about that and there's a famous story, what actually happened at least twice once in San Francisco and once in New York is that someone posing as Lefty went to a bar and was passing bad checks basically and so Lefty heard about it and then his story goes that he went to the bar and after the guy admitted he didn't know him, he said, well here's $20 cover the bill, don't worry about it and said I'll give you a piece of advice, next time someone comes in here claiming to be me, take him out back, throw him a baseball, if he catches it, it's not me. Now it's an exaggeration because you can see here's one where Lefty did catch a ball so we know he can catch one. But he retired after the 1934 season and began his long career with the San Francisco Seals and here he is with Charlie Graham in the suit and then on the left is Dom DiMaggio and the right is Brooks Holder who was a long time outfielder for the San Francisco Seals and this was the relationship that was really important to Lefty and I think up till 1948 when Charlie Graham died Charlie Graham had always wanted Lefty to come back to San Francisco once his major league career as he had an open offer to come back and manage the Seals and after his first contract ended every subsequent contract was a handshake, they never had a piece of paper and Lefty by the 1940s was one of the highest paid managers in all of baseball, not just the minor leagues he was making nearly 50,000 a year with the San Francisco Seals and he had a percentage of the gate and he and Charlie Graham really got along well. Unfortunately after Charlie died Paul Fagan the next owner and Lefty had a very difficult relationship and Fagan ended up firing Lefty and Lefty kind of lost although he kept managing he wasn't quite the same after that. Bob Stevens felt he never really recovered from Charlie Graham's death and being fired by Paul Fagan but he had tremendous success with the Seals usually sent up one or two players to the major leagues every year and you have to understand the Pacific Coast League it's not like today it wasn't just a farm system for the major leagues the Pacific Coast League signed their own players so Joe DiMaggio signed with the San Francisco Seals not a major league team. Ted Williams as I mentioned before signed with the Padres Ferris Fane signed with the Seals and this was part of what kept the doors open during the depression especially for the Seals and Lefty's ability to develop talent. Which he was known for in fact other teams would send players to him. Connie Mack would send players to him to work out during spring training and there'd be players that would come to him for advice and they would work out with the Seals during spring training. But Lefty's biggest legacy is Japan and so I want to end the segment talking a bit about his role in Japan. The first time that he went over was in 1931 and this is him on the left he's wearing the uniform of the All American All Stars. It was a tremendous team may have been the best of the teams that went over. Had Lou Gehrig, Lefty Grove, Frankie Frisch just a tremendous group of players and this is them post so in 1931 he went over. Unfortunately the team didn't behave very well there was even an incident that Fred Lieb the sports writer wrote about where they were in the Japanese Prime Minister's residence and he left for a call and some of them were pocketing souvenirs out of the office there. But Lefty he had 615 during that trip also won a golf tournament among the players and was given a couple of awards for that and really he was sidelined by injury in the middle of the tour. And really I think that gave him the time to really get to know the Japanese and Lefty he dropped out of school in the eighth grade but he was a tremendous self educator. He loved to learn and he loved different cultures and he really took to the Japanese culture and I think their ability to be coached and wanna learn and their desire to always improve and I think he really related to that. And so he went back the next year in 1932 and this is him, these are the same four men in the two pictures they're just in different order but on the top left there's Herb Hunter along with Lefty and then Ted Lyons the White Sox player and then Mo Berg the catcher who a lot of people know as the spy who played baseball. And they went over and coached college players during 1932, Lefty was anxious to get back there and reaffirmed ties and so Lefty taught hitting, Ted Lyons taught pitching, Mo Berg taught catching Herb Hunter was kind of the guy who was organizing the tour he was a former teammate of Lefty's and had led tours in Japan during the 1920s. But this led Lefty, he started making contact with a man named Sataro Suzuki who had come over from Japan to New York and they had met when Lefty was on the Giants and Suzuki had returned to Japan and enlisted a newspaper publisher named Sataro Shariqi who on the Yomiuri paper and they started talking about organizing baseball and trying to bring Babe Ruth over and Lefty knew they wanted that and Lefty was a good friend of Babe Ruth. So he suggested I got to see the original correspondence, a copy of the original correspondence between them where Lefty actually suggested how about let's bring Babe Ruth over and it was very important to the Japanese, Babe Ruth was the biggest name in baseball, they wanted to see him before he retired and so in 1934 Lefty finally brought Babe Ruth to Japan and this is the team is on the left, the very bottom left is Lefty with Sataro Suzuki. On the right you already see that Lefty had duals called a baseball ambassador that he was already known for speaking Japanese. He couldn't play in that series because the National League, he was a National Leagueer and the National League withdrew permission of their players to play in Japan. Some of them were concerned about strange oriental diseases that could happen. The other thing you have to realize is it took a couple of weeks to get to Japan. There weren't airlines and things like that at that time. You took a pretty arduous boat across the Pacific Ocean and it was a far away place, there wasn't that connectedness where people knew what they were going to expect. In fact the players were very surprised how modern Japan was and that tour was extremely successful and in the bottom center there's a picture with Lefty with several Japanese players and he at the end of the 1934 tour where Babe Ruth was mobbed by probably a good million people. Lefty stayed behind afterwards and helped found the Tokyo Giants which is now the Yomiuri Giants. The Japanese had never had professional baseball. They'd pretty much stuck with amateur baseball and felt that was kind of the purity of amateurism and college baseball was the big thing and still is today the big six college teams and that's what Lefty had gone over and coached them in 1932. But he tried planting the seeds of professional baseball and finally in 1935 the Tokyo Giants were formed and they came over, he enabled them, helped organize a tour where they came over in 1935 and had an extremely successful tour there and came again in 1936. And he kept going over until about 1938 when hostilities became too much as he kept trying to promote the game and be a part of it and so finally he couldn't go over anymore and he almost felt like Pearl Harbor as a betrayal and it was a tough time. It was a tough time for everybody and he had people he knew that went into internment camps, Kappi Harada's family, Kappi Harada who I'll talk about in a second had hit, it was a California born Japanese American and he was the one who convinced Lefty to come over to Japan after the war and his family was in the internment camp during the war and it was a tough time. So Lefty tried to get back to Japan, he was almost immediately after the surrender, he was there. Right after the war one reporter was there and the Japanese Prime Minister asked about Lefty and said he really should have been a diplomat instead of a ball player. Another Emperor Hito's brother had come and asked how's Lefty doing, that was the first question that he had. So Lefty remained popular and he was kind of surprised how popular he remained. He tried to get back there in 47 or 48 to no avail but in 1949 General Douglas MacArthur who was essentially running Japan was running into concerns about the country that it was falling, the morale was bad and the communists were starting to make inroads and sports was something they tried to revive and it was Kappi Harada who was in aid to camp to another general who had been given the task of reviving sports in Japan who suggested a baseball goodwill tour like it happened with in 1931 and 1934, tried to help morale and MacArthur thought that was a great idea and asked who it should be and he said how about Lefty O'Doole and said go get him. So Lefty came and in 1949 people, he discovered people remembered him by some accounts there were nearly a million people lining the streets of Tokyo when he first arrived and when he got to General MacArthur's residence MacArthur said you are home and these are pictures from the first games. The picture on the left and the bottom right are from the first game and that bottom right is the first time that the Japanese and American flags had flown together at the same time since the war. It was a tremendously important moment and there were different baseball cards and baseball card holders and programs during this tour and I was able to see about 300 pages of Japanese newspaper articles that had been translated to English and to understand the impact that he had that was beyond baseball, it was there's a really touching story about how one Japanese newspaper editor said she was moved to tears looking at how he treated orphans that they'd moved the GIs out of the select seats and he'd put the orphans there. Most of the money that they earned from this went to orphanages and to sports programs for youth in Japan. The president of the Tokyo Board of Education wrote a letter to Lefty saying what it meant to the future of the kids of that country that he'd come and it wasn't just baseball, he didn't ignore them as people. There was a riot that he actually quelled when some people couldn't get in and see him, he came out and made sure he talked to them, he understood the culture and understood the respect that he felt they deserved. During that tour, he was able to meet the emperor's son who's the current emperor of Japan, that picture where he's shaking hands and they played no matter what the weather was. You can see they were playing and pouring rain. Lefty said, well, seals are known to be able to be out in wet weather, we should do well. The little ribbon, that was given to each player to identify them. So when they were out in the community, the Japanese people would know which player that was and they actually had taxis, each player had a taxi sign to them with their uniform number on the top and those people were there 24 seven to take them wherever they wanted to go. They played before as much as 90,000 people in a couple of the games and played, they played 10 games before Lefty staged another for free kids day and played before 500,000 people in those 10 games. This is in the Japanese Hall of Fame, this is the uniform hat and bat that he used in Japan and he actually did play, he was 52 years old but he still swung a bat and that's Lefty pinch hitting there in Japan. Swing still looks pretty good. Lefty's adage was don't over stride, keep your eye on the ball to the bat, look for a fast ball because you can always adjust to the curve but then half of his philosophy had to do with confidence. He always talked about it, being like swinging an ax at a tree. You're not afraid of what the tree will do to you so you stand up there, you gotta have that same confidence and heading into that mental thing and that's where a lot of his superstitions came in, it was as much to get him in the mental state and he did pretty well. He had 349 lifetime in the major leagues, fourth all time. He, I was reading not too long ago that he's one of 14 players in the major league history who had 300 batting average, a 400 on base percentage and a 500 slugging percentage, both home and away in the major leagues and his minor league numbers were almost exactly the same. I think he had six more hits in the minor leagues in about nine less at bats, very consistent. He then did other tours, see he didn't forget Japan, it wasn't a one-off, so in 1950 he went back and this time he didn't wanna bring a full team, he has to bring Joe DiMaggio. So on the upper left they're actually visiting Korea as during the Korean War and you see Lefty actually has the traditional hat, Joe's not doing it, but Lefty's right in there wearing the Korean hat. On the right at the top, they're working with youth baseball players. On the bottom left you can get a sense of some of the crowds that they saw, this is them greeting the crowds upon their arrival. And on the bottom right of course is Lefty and Joe with Douglas MacArthur. He came back in 1951, spring training, coming out of that 1952 he actually invited what he considered the four top Japanese players to come to spring training in Modesto, California and here he is with them and all five of these players are in the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame where all five people in this picture, including Lefty. In 1951 he brought another All-Star team to Japan, this was the first major league level All-Star team since the Babe Ruth Tour in 1934 and you can see some of the people, the bottom row you see Dom DiMaggio and Billy Martin, Bobby Chance is the second from the right on the bottom, Mel Parnell on the far right, Dino Rastelli on the far left with Ferris Fane next to him. It was a really good ball club and another very successful tour. And straight above Lefty's head is the Emperor's brother, the one who had asked about Lefty right after the war and he was right there in the front row to see Lefty play. Lefty did get to meet the Emperor in 1949 too. At the end of that tour they went to a, he greeted them and talked about how he was gratified to meet the greatest manager ever, which Lefty said, I'm glad he didn't know I finished in seventh place this year. And the Emperor again thanked him for his efforts in Japan. He continued to go to Japan over the years, 1954. This is a picture actually in Stopover in Honolulu and it's a famous photo but it really tells a lot. Joe and Marilyn were only married for 10 months and the tension really came out of this 1954 tour. Lefty was one of six, he and his wife were two of the six people at Joe's wedding to Marilyn in San Francisco in January of 1954. And Lefty then went and won his second Crosby Pro Am and then they met back up and basically Joe and Marilyn spent their honeymoon in Japan and Korea. Lefty's wife and Marilyn went to Korea to entertain the troops while Lefty and Joe coached hitters back in Japan. But you can see the tension's already there. It's just interesting to me, there's Marilyn, she knows where that camera is, eating it up. Joe looks a little irritated and Lefty's kind of, well what am I doing in the middle of this? And it was a tour that had a lot of the, there was a lot of tension and the Japanese attention to her and there were some issues there that of course they were divorced by the end of the year. On the bottom right, another trip that Lefty made was in 1960 when he took the San Francisco Giants over to Japan and here he's meeting with Kappi Harada on the left and Matsutara Shuriki, the newspaper editor who helped worked with Lefty to bring Babe Ruth to Japan back in 1934. Lefty is not sitting in the traditional Japanese way and the reason is not a lack of respect or anything. He popped his Achilles tendon trying to show off how fast he'd get to first base in a charity softball game and at 63 that maybe wasn't the smartest thing to do. And then in 2002, Lefty was recognized by the Japanese for his efforts in Japan by being inducted into the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame. And here's a picture that also includes Tom with a cake of chrysanthemums I think is what that was made of and that was a, an event held at Lefty O'Doos to celebrate his being inducted into the Hall of Fame. On the right is the plaque at the Hall of Fame and it talks about his contributions to starting Japanese Baseball, the 1934 tour, the 49 tour, the 1960 tour with San Francisco and he was inducted as a full member of the Hall of Fame as a major contributor to Japanese Baseball. And on the left at the bottom is his tombstone where he talks about Lefty O'Doos, the man in the green suit, it has his statistics and talks about he was here at a good time and had a good time while he was here and that really tells you about Lefty and what he's done for the globalization of the game and is such a fascinating character only really touched on some of the stories that are in the book and some of his accomplishments. A tremendously accomplished individual, a great ball player and a great influence on the game and I think a person whose legacy is only now being felt in the last 15, 20 years with the influx of Asian ball players not just from Japan, but Korea and Taiwan, et cetera and the real globalization of the sport which he played a major role in starting that. So with that, that's Lefty and if you have any questions, happy to answer.


So, this year the internship program under ideal, so we already Manas has given two of the presentation which is IoT and Arduino based system. The third project is going to be on 3D scanner, so hope everybody knows what exactly the 3D scanner is about. You heard about 3D printer if I am not wrong, so how it prints a 3D thing, there is a SLT file, so by layer by layer it generates the 3D objects. Now it is a reverse part, so I have an object, I want to scan the whole 360 degree and generate a mesh out of it, now this mesh generated can be directly mapped with the texture and put it like a 3D object or the same thing can be used again as a SLT to generate the 3D out of it. So, for this we are going to use this open source software and the hardware which you can see which uses a very simple tool based on Arduino, so we have one disk rotating which is generally rotating with the stepper motor at one degree. As you can see there are two pointers, so these are the laser pointers and in center there is a camera of it, so if the object is there the laser straight line is coming out there, so and the center camera is given, so it clicks a photograph, so with the laser you can have the in and outs, the depths and out of the objects, so one degree it moves again the photographs is taken on the camera, so each and each degree, so one 360 degree, so whole object is covered and you will have 360 images out of it, so all these 360 images are again taken into the further software here for the hours which is used to generate a 3D mesh out of it. Here what exactly is required for this particular software is majorly the electronics people having knowledge of electronics and Arduino based controllers and image processing, so the whole tool is this software is purely based on Python and JavaScript and this is the only hardware projects I would say which is linked with the Anvilia project what we are going to have it, so out goal of this particular project is creating a, actually this is too dark I am not able to show you properly, we require two CA students also where a virtual presentation is created, what are the three 3D objects is generated, so we have to make it as a virtual web also, so here actually it is not clear it is totally in the dark room, so here if I click on any of the object, roughly you can see this is a 3D mesh generated object, so you can actually pan it and see move it around, so whatever descriptions are there for that particular thing you can just check it and pan it, this is the not the difficulty level is too high, but basic knowledge of Python and all the same because this is already an open source the codes are available, why we require this because the objects which are generated the 3D objects are generated are not very clear, the software has to be tweaked, so that we will have lot of clear image at the output, so details if I have a small object if it is a solid box, yeah it will do the things and give it, but if it has some curves in it or anything, so that is not been done properly, so we have to tweak with the software, so that each and every point is captured, so this is the ultimate goal of this particular project, thanks.


Professor, do you also incur that fist-milk now is safe? Yes, certainly. I'd have no reservations in saying that. I think the residual issues relate to certainly the possibility that there are still some very drums there, although we've got clear evidence that the vast majority of drums were removed in two separate incidents. Any material which was in those drums after 20 years, if it was liquid, will have volatilized off or move down as mixed air. So there's a question mark in relation to groundwater, which is going to be pursued by CFA in terms of the firewater treatment system. Obviously, issues have been raised there recently and are being addressed by CFA, but there's nothing in my report which would lead me to conclude that there's any inappropriate or significant risk to people on the site at present. What would you like to say to the people who claim they are now ill because of the result of what's happening? Well, it's an open question. And the dilemma here is that the events are so far removed in time and there are so many confounding variables in people's lives, but it's going to be difficult to draw firm cause and effects between exposure to fiscal, other exposures which people may have had in their lives, and other factors. We're not dealing with a relatively straightforward situation as you are, for example, with a spesloss, where there's a very clear causal pathway between exposure to a material and a consequent health outcome. Now, I'm not a medico and that's why it's important that we move from here into the area where epidemiologists and medicos are involved, but it is a fraught area. It's going to be difficult to reach firm conclusions. What sort of chemicals have you thought that you could remember? The sorts of materials which came in in these drums and remember there's no very limited documentary evidence after all this time and because the materials were gifted, it was not the sort of thing which gave a rise to a whole paper trail. So we're going basically on what people remember and basically what they remember is that the materials were various solvents and solvents cover a vast range of potential materials. Paint used and out of spec aviation fuels and things of this sort. So clearly there are materials which are potentially dangerous when handled if you're breathing in the fumes over a long period, dangerous when burnt if you're exposed over a long period to the fine particles and various chemicals which may be absorbed onto those. But we simply don't know precisely what the materials would be, we can infer from what we do know, but certainly there were hazards associated. Those hazards were particularly concentrated on the limited number of people who were actually dealing with the raw chemicals, the people who set up the fire simulations on the training area and particularly to the full-time instructors who were exposed over an average period of about three and a half years, but some for much longer, to the products of combustion, to foam and to recirculated fire water. The facility was one of the last to realise that these practices were dangerous or at least cease them with 96% to 99%. Why did it take so long? Well, I guess that's a good question. It's come about because people have actually started to draw possible links between what they're now experiencing in terms of ill health and thinking back to what was happening at Fiskville, what they were exposed to there. I think that this is the sort of thing that often does emerge in that sort of way. But the main changes I've said earlier was a change in the 1990s. It was a recognition which was, unfortunately, driven more by the grassroots than by management. And as I've said before, management were slow to really take this up. But if the CFA knew that materials were dangerous and every other training facility wasn't using them, why did it take so long? Why didn't the CFA look into it when they ceased the practices because they were dangerous? Well, I'm not sure that every other training system back in the 70s and the 80s wasn't using similar sorts of materials. But they had stopped using them because they were dangerous? Well, I'm not aware of that. The investigation which we've done only explored to a limited degree what was going on in the state. But what I have concluded is that by the late 80s or early 90s, people in the state were starting to become concerned about this. And in a similar time, people down on the grassroots at Fiskville and in the dangerous goods area of human resources were also becoming alert to it. The problem is that senior management was slow to do this. Can I have the last couple of questions, please? I'll just have the last one.