Hi everyone, welcome back to a new video. Now, today's video, I was planning on calling it like summer book haul, like summery vibes. I feel like my last video I filmed, the sun was right. It felt really summery. Today, I kid you not, it is so dark, raining, dreary, dull. Like it feels like it's December right now. Like I don't understand. So this is gonna be a cozy book haul instead of a summer book haul because it doesn't feel summery at all. Meet of the sun, you threw into it. So today we have got a book haul of the books I've accumulated in the past couple of months. I can't remember when I did my last book haul. I feel like it was maybe February or March time, the last time I did one. But I have stacked them into their piles. We've got 20 books here and I've only bought four of them myself. So I'm just so grateful that a lot of these have been gifted to me and a lot have been sent by publishers and stuff like that. I'm just so incredibly grateful that I get to receive books in that way. But I think what we're gonna do is go to the ones that I've bought first, then we'll go to the ones that publishers have sent to me, then we'll go through book box ones because there's only two of them, and then last we'll end with the ones that have been gifted to me because that is by far the biggest stack and there's a lot of really exciting books in there. So I'm gonna leave that to last to keep you waiting. Okay, so I'm so excited to read all four of these that I bought. Firstly, I bought Girl in the Walls by AJ. I did hear how this was pronounced the other day. Gnuse? AJ Gnuse, who is the author of Girl in the Walls? Yes! Yes! This is genuinely one of my favorite covers ever and I just love it. And also I read about how this cover was set up. It's actually like a paper set that they took a picture of. It's just so gorgeous. We've got the sprayed edges. Oh my God, do you? Yes sis, pop off, go in. You didn't have to snap so hard. So I did partly buy this because of the design. It's literally one of my favorite covers ever. But this is a thriller about, all I know about it is this young girl who I think loses her parents. She goes back to her old family home and lives in the walls. No, I don't know if she's like a ghost or if she's generally like a person like sliding through the walls. There's now another family there and they think they can like see her. I think their sons start to think they can see her and hear her. And that's basically all I know about it. But something about it just really intrigues me. It generally is one of my favorite covers ever. Like I just, I absolutely am obsessed with it. Yeah, I think this is like a debut thriller author. So I just really wanted to give it a go. Give it a go, try the author out, see if it's my kind of vibe because I love this cover. Okay, the next I bought a book for an upcoming video that I'm doing and I bought Before the Coffee Gets Cold by Toshikazu Kawaguchi. What I know about this, also this cover I love. You can't really see it. Hopefully I'll be able to show you in the close-up. Is this wallpaper? It's like reflective. And when I look at it, I can just have a lot. I'm a simple girl. I can have a lot of fun just staring at this cover like this. And there's a cat. I miss my cats. Well, guess what people? I get excited about small things. There's this coffee house you can go to and you can like transport yourself through the coffee. Like you can travel back in time but you have to return before the coffee gets cold. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to return. That's all I kind of know. I'm gonna be reading this really soon. In fact, is this, this is gonna be the next book I read in real life. You're gonna see it for like another week. This is gonna be the next book I pick up. So I'm really excited to get to this one and I've heard a lot of good things about this. So I just thought it was like a ton I read it. And then I popped back into Waterstones the other day. Oh my God. It was amazing to me. I hadn't been back because I've been finishing off kind of some uni stuff and I wanted to go at a time that felt right. So I went in and I bought a few books and I just like communed with the books. It was amazing. So I bought Fire Keeper's Daughter by Angeline Booley. This is by an indigenous author I believe and it's about this girl who I think is half indigenous and she witnesses this murder and she becomes part of this covert FBI operation into drug related deaths. And I wasn't initially interested in this book. Like I heard a few people talk about it and I was like, okay, fine, you know. And then I watched Mara from Books Like Why who is one of, one of her videos I'm obsessed with her. Mara, if you see this. I watched her speak about it and I was just sold straight away. Opponent is very hard hitting. It deals a lot with like drug issues within indigenous communities. She just told me on it. And then when I saw it, I was like, okay, I'm gonna get that. I'm gonna get it. Sometimes the books that I am not immediately interested in and then someone sells them to me and I'm like, okay, they end up being my favorite books. Sometimes the books I'm initially excited for like don't hit the spot. But then the books that I kind of at first I'm a bit turned off towards. And then I come around. Sometimes they end up being the best ones. And then I picked up Project Tell Mary by Andy Weir. This is the author of The Martian, which I love that book. I feel like I need to reread it. I read it probably like seven, eight years ago last. And I loved the film. And so I knew I wanted to get this book when it came out. All I know about this is that it's about an astronaut who I think is the last survivor of their mission. It says, hertaling through space on his tiny ship, it's up to him to puzzle out an impossible scientific mystery and conquer an extinction level. Oh, conquer. And we need to keep talking. And conquer an extinction level threat to our species. So yeah, I really loved The Martian. I struggle sometimes with sci-fi because I'm a bit dumb. Like I'm not science-y in that way. So sometimes sci-fi is a bit too high-brow. But when I read The Martian, it was really funny and really engaging and kind of about this human, like a human story in a sci-fi setting, which I really like. So this is one of my most anticipated releases this year.  And they were like, yeah, okay. Thanks for getting that. We will all read that. And probably before I do, because I buy books and then read them two years later. Quickly, let's go through the books that have been sent to me by publishers. One of the ones I was most excited for is The Baby is Mined by Oyuncan Braithway. I didn't realize how short this was gonna be. Like I really, it's literally only just over a hundred pages and the writing is massive. This is the second book by the author of My Sister the Serial Killer, which was a short book in itself. But this is just like incredibly short. It's basically a novella. This is about a guy who turns up, I think, to his uncle's house. He finds his aunt there and a baby in a crib and another woman.  And the guy's like, I don't know what's going on here. I don't know if it's any of my business. That's basically what I know about it. I really enjoyed My Sister the Serial Killer when I read it last year. It was such a solid thriller. And this is gonna be perfect, something like a readathon, because it'll literally only take you maybe an hour to read. Then Sansen Press got in touch with me and asked if I wanted to receive two of their books. I actually hadn't heard of these books, but they both sounded super interesting. So the first is The Disassembly of Doreen Juran by Ryan Collett. And this book is basically about this woman who witnesses some kind of horrific accident. And this police officer wants to know what she saw.  And this police officer is chasing after her. And it's apparently just a really bizarre situation. Very strange. So I thought that sounded really interesting. This comes out, oh, it'll be out by the time And then I also received Kings of a Dead World by Jamie Muller. This is about a futuristic society where earth's resources are dwindling. And so I think there's something called the sleep, which basically puts people into hibernation in order to kind of control the resources of the world. There's gonna be some kind of protest and dissatisfaction with what's going on. And I don't know, it just sounds super interesting. So thank you Sansen Press for that. And then HarperCollins sent me Fireborn, which is a really anticipated middle grade coming out at the end of this year. All I know about this is that it's like this magical kind of medieval vibe with clans. I think the character on this is very like headstrong, like a very like, I think the all shirt, I can't speak.  I think I remember the author tweeting about how it's definitely inspired by Buffy, like middle grade Buffy's set in this kind of like medieval vibe, I believe. I'm really excited to get to this. And this comes out at the end of September. So quite a way away, I've got time to read it. But yeah, this is, if you're into middle grade, I think this is gonna be one of the biggest middle grades in the second half of this year. And then finally, I got sent Quarantine Comics by Rachel Smith. This is basically a comic book kind of thing. Oh, we've got some color paint. Oh my God, it's a cat. All I know about this is that it's a memoir of life in lockdown. So the author is speaking about kind of the weirdness and life in this quarantine that we all had to deal with. I feel like I'm not ready to read like a pandemic novel. Do you know what I mean? Like a real pandemic novel. I'm not ready for that. But I feel like in a comic book where I think the purpose of this is more that we're all gonna relate to it and see ourselves in it, I'm ready for that. So I'm gonna give this a try soon, hopefully. Okay, and then quickly, two books I've received from Fairey in the last couple months. The first, I won't go into much detail because I've already spoken about this, but this is The Bright and the Pale by Jessica Rubinowski. This is like a polar fantasy. I've heard it's very much like The Bear and the Nightingale. That means I'm very much excited for it. You can bet I'm gonna be reading this soon. I've also had really good things about people who have been reading it. And yeah, inspired by Russian folklore, epic fantasy, we move. And then I actually haven't shown this yet. I couldn't resist opening it. But I received The Prison Healer by Yannette Nonney. This isn't it, this is a big milk. I really don't know what this is about.  The level of unprofessionalism, far too much. Something about a queen being sentenced to trial and our protagonist is a healer working in prison. Oh, The Prison Healer, yeah. What? In this case, I'm asking you guys, if you've read this, let me know what you thought of it. If you think I'd like it. I love the, you've got straight edges, but on this side, it's like a key, which I think is gorgeous. I'll just quickly show you actually the stuff that came in this fairy loop box. So we had these gorgeous bookends, which are probably like one of the favorite things I've ever received in a fairy loop box. I think they're absolutely gorgeous. When I go back home, I think I'll probably use these like on my fantasy shelf perhaps. Then we've got a tote bag. This is inspired by the Blood and Ash series. We have some Cherry Blossom soap, which smells so good. A David Badd enamel pin. We have some tarot cards and we have some foiled bookmarks as well, which I really love the poppy oil one. I'm a big fan of the poppy oil, so I really loved receiving this one. So that's what came in the April fairy loop. And then let's finally get into the books that I've been gifted in the past couple months. I'm really excited about some of these. So firstly, a very kind subscriber. So a long time ago, I had Horrid by Katrina Leno on my Amazon wish list. And I remember when I was clearing my Amazon wish list out, I had seen it and been bought, but I'd never received it. And I tried contacting Amazon. There was no way because I hadn't purchased it myself of them finding out what happened to it or who had bought it. So I tried asking on like Twitter and Instagram, like if you bought this, please let me know because I don't know what's happening with it. And then I checked my Goodreads messages one day and I found the person that tried to send this to me and they sent it to me properly this time. And I got it and I received it and they didn't go missing this time. So this is Horrid by Katrina Leno, which genuinely like one of my favorite covers of all time. Try like honestly, look, look at her. Look at her, she is a moment. Alexa, tell me I'm stunning. Alexa, tell me I'm stunning. Very stunning. I think like our main character discovers this like young girl's room that has been locked up for years and years like untouched. And it's kind of a horror. I don't want to know too much going into it because I didn't know much going into Katrina Leno's other book that I read. She must not miss. And that was one of my favorite books of last year. So like I kind of want to leave it a bit unknown and like a bit mysterious. It's a five star prediction. I recently did a five star prediction video and this was in there like without a doubt this is going to be one of my favorite books. Katrina Leno just does something to me that I don't fully understand, but like I vibe with it. She's really good at examining like anger and grief and sadness. And so I just like it's gonna be five stars. I'm so excited. I'm so, so excited. So thank you so much to subscriber that bought this for me. Then we have some books that my family sent me for Easter a couple months back. From my grandparents, I got three books. Firstly, I got Sheets by Brenna Thumbna. I am so excited to read this. I have wanted this graphic novel for ages.  It's absolutely gorgeous. I feel like I don't have many graphic novel, graphic, did I say that right?  I don't feel like I have many graphic novels in my possession. I think I only have this and quarantine comics right now. I really love reading graphic novels. So I'm constantly on the lookout for ones that I enjoy. I'm looking forward to one day when I can go to gosh comics again and pick up some graphic novels because I really loved reading them last year and I haven't really read any this year. The word about this is that it's about a young girl who I believe has to run her family's laundromat. I think she's only 13 and the kind of responsibility has been left to her and she meets Wendell, who's a ghost and it's about their relationship together. I don't think it's so gorgeous. I've heard that it's kind of like sad but like that kind of like melancholy feeling and I really like reading books like that. So I am so excited to get into this. Again, I'm so excited when I can start like participating in readathons and maybe hosting my own. I don't know what I'm saying like that. I haven't got any concrete plans. I haven't got anything to tease you with. But I did tell a bit of a lie there. Oh my God, I'm so excited to read this. This is gonna be hopefully one I read soon.  I'm a clown. Then they sent me. Okay, so people won't get this, but no. They sent me the bungalow mystery which is the third in the Nancy Drew mystery story. So I loved playing Nancy Drew when I was a kid. I used to play with my granddad a lot. I loved like the Nancy Drew games that you could get on your computer. And so a couple, like a couple years ago, I started on a script reading the original mysteries on the audiobooks and the audiobooks were so good. Like they had this like music, like old timey music because this is kind of set. Why would this be set like the 1930s? That's a guess. I could be completely wrong. So it had this old timey music to like get you in the vibe, had sound effects, the narrator was great. And then the script like took the audiobooks off and I can't even get them on audible. Like I cannot get these audiobooks anywhere. So I just decided to start reading the physical books. I don't even know if I'm gonna vlog myself like reading these in the future. It might just be something I kind of pick up when I'm feeling like it. Cause they're super short and I don't think many people are gonna be interested in hearing my thoughts on Nancy Drew's bungalow mystery. But it's just something that's a bit of a comfort read to me. I really like like cozy mysteries. And so yeah, I really love these like additions as well. I think they're so cute. Like so cute and ditty with like these illustrations on the front. Like I just love it. It's just like a memory. It just brings up a memory for me of like playing Nancy Drew. So I'm super happy to own this and I can finally carry on with the series. And then finally they got me A Good Girl Bad Blood by Holly Jackson. So this is the sequel to A Good Girl's Guide to Murder which I gave five stars when I read it earlier this year. This is a young adult murder mystery series. And it's really cool in that it's told through these multi-media elements. So you have these interviews, these like logs that are protagonist's writing. You have like the internet searches. It's really, really cool in the way that it's told. And I just could not wait to get to the second book. I'm really, really excited. These are really good wire murder mysteries. I think it's generally the best wire murder mysteries I've read. Well, I've only read one of them. So I need to carry on with the series. I think in this one someone in PIP, the protagonist's life goes missing. And so she's trying to find whether they're alive or what's happening. I also think she may be running like a podcast in this one, like a murder mystery podcast. I'm not sure. But I'm super excited to get into this. This is one I do have kind of a video. So it has the possibility of being read too soon. I just love how these are written. So good. Pretty legendary if you ask me. I love it. Molly from Mind of Molly very kindly bought me two becs. The first is Actual Age Eve Brown by Talia Hiver. Oh my God. So I read Get to Life Chloe Brown and I really enjoyed it. Like I'm not a big romance reader. I really don't like ever really rate romance that high. And I gave it four stars. I really enjoyed it. I do have Take a Hit Danny Brown and now I have Actual Age Eve Brown. So I have the second two to make my way through. I think Eve as a sister is kind of like the hot mess of the family. Like we can relate. She's kind of a hot mess and she meets this guy who I think is a bit more like uptight and a perfectionist and so their personalities clash. So I'm really excited to get into this. And Molly also sent me The Bone Season by Samantha Shannon. Now this is one of their like favorite books. Apprehensive, nervous, a bit scared, also weirdly calm, perhaps on the verge of hysteria. So I definitely feel a lot of pressure. This is a super popular fantasy book on BookTube. A lot of people really love The Bone Season and I am scared of it. I'm not gonna lie, I'm a bit intimidated. I don't know if it's gonna end up being my kind of fantasy but I really wanna give it a go because so many people will love it. I spoke to you the day about how I really love like soft, mysterious, floaty fantasy and I feel like this is a bit more like high serious fantasy and like I don't know. I don't know how I'm gonna feel about it but I'm super excited to try it. But I am scared, not gonna lie.  And then my parents sent me two books for Easter as a gift as well. Firstly, they sent me The House in the Cerulean Sea by TJ Klune. This is another five star prediction. I am so excited to read this. I'm gonna be reading it really soon, like really, really, really, really, really, really soon. I'm scared because I wanna love it so bad. Like I'm actually terrified because I've only heard good things. So this is about an orphanage with these children who have the possibility to end the world and we have like a case worker who has to go and kind of like judge whether they're safe. And I think he falls in love. I've heard it's like he falls in love with the guy who runs the orphanage and I've heard it's just like soft and enchanting and like whimsical and just like so gorgeously written. So I cannot wait to get to this. They also sent me A Mari and the Nightbrothers by Bibi Alston. So this is for a video that I'm doing really soon and this hadn't been on my radar and then I heard a lot of people speak about it. Like everyone was saying it's the best middle grade they've ever read. Like it's instantly become one of their favorite middle grades. So I just had to try it. I'm really intrigued. I've actually already read the first 50 pages of this but I had to swap around like some videos that I was doing. So it's been put on hold but I really did love the first 50 pages of this that I have already read. It's really told in this really funny way where it's got a lot of humor to it but it's told, what I love about it is it's real life.  It's very like grounded in reality and then like the magic and the weirdness starts and I feel like I'm only at the beginning of that. This is last book that I've left to the end. I'm trying to hide it that this happened. We are going to pretend we didn't hear that. This is one of the oldest books on my TBR. I'm pretty sure my first ever like what's on my TBR video where I think I had, I think when I started my channel I had 20 on red books. 20, 20, like 20. I think I have 150. Oh my goodness, I'm so embarrassed. Something embarrassed, they love you. But this is one of the oldest books on my TBR and I lost it. It's not even mine, it was my mom's and I lost it. So I needed it for a video that I'm doing and so my boyfriend, very funny boy for me. So it's gifted kind of. And it is the traveling cat chronicles by Hira Arakawa. Look at the cat, I love cats so much. I love cats so much. Oh my God, let me put in here because it's at the end of the video. So if you're here, you're cat. My parents sent me pictures of my cats yesterday and look at them. One of them's missing, but look at those two. Oh my God, I love them so much. So what I know about this is that it is this person going on an adventure with their cat. I don't really know. I've heard it's very emotional and very touching. My mom has read this and she really liked it and I just love cats. I will always read about cats. Cats, cats, cats. Like I'm sold when it comes to if you mention cats. Oh my God, I don't wanna pick these up. No, don't call.   Books that I have received in the past few months. Put them down before I mess up anything again. Let me know if you've read any of these and what you thought of them, what ones you think I'm gonna enjoy the most. I'm very intrigued about what you guys think. If you've gotten to the end of this video, comment, comment a red or a pink heart emoji. If like, we need like some hearts. We need some hearts in the comments. So comment a red or a pink heart emoji and I will see you very soon in another video. Bye.


And hello, wiki peeps. Welcome to our live rootstack version of our live cast on wiki tree, presented by Grandma's Jeans. Today we have visiting with us Peter Roberts, our DNA guru extraordinaire and our DNA leader extraordinary kitty Smith. And we're gonna talk about DNA today. I do have notes that I left somewhere else to be right back. It's live. It's live. Can I tell you it's live? Go ahead and enjoy that for a second. Talk amongst yourselves. I wanted to tell you that we're gonna be taking questions from our live chat, which is going on now. Julie's got that covered and moderating as she usually does. And we're gonna get questions into Julian, to Peter and Kitty from Julie. I'm also really, really, are you guys tired? Yes. Yeah. It's been a long week. It's been a long week. So first off, I wanna tell you that Kitty has been a member of wiki tree since 2013. She has 77,408 contributions, 5,880 thank yous on her profile page. And her profile has been accessed 29,636 times. She has been DNA tested and has one other DNA connection that shows up on her profile. And her last comment as of Monday when I was looking at this was an at a wiki treeer from our forest elf, Aowyn Langoff for hard work. So whoo-hoo Kitty. And Peter here. Peter has been on wiki tree since about 2013 as well. He has 16,652 contributions with 1,601 thank yous. His profile has been accessed 24,063 times. And of course DNA testing is all over his profile. If you go to his profile, you will see actual DNA file in the background. Is that actually your DNA? No, it's just a generic. It's generic, okay. And he has nine DNA connections listed in his wiki tree profile. He has 67 badges. I didn't write down how many badges Kitty has, but I guarantee it's a few. And Peter's last comment on his profile page that I saw on Monday was thank you Peter for suggesting to open up some of my profiles from private to private with public family tree. It's done, barely active on wiki tree nowadays, but can reply to critical tasks. And I hope that this does help, which is a really important thing. So we've been at Roots Tech since Wednesday. Some of us have been here since Tuesday. And we were brought out here to work the wiki tree, to volunteer the wiki tree booth to promote wiki tree here at Roots Tech, which is the largest genealogical conference in the world. And it is tech focused. So doing DNA talk today is a really good idea. I have a question that you both can answer. What discovery brought each of you to wiki tree? Yeah, I can start with that, is that I have a Bahamas DNA project and I was trying to find really good descendant charts and ancestral charts that I could link to. And I discovered that wiki tree could do it. And I saw a little DNA icon and I thought, wow, how can I make use of this? This is a shareable collaborative tree. Right. And that was it. That was it, that brought you. What about you, Kitty? Just the collaborative nature of the wiki tree and being able to work with other people on Smith's, got Smith's. And it's been a fabulous tool for me. So how is DNA used in genealogy in general? How does somebody use their DNA? The ideal way is that you find cousins that you match and hopefully those cousins have shared, you can find the shared ancestry that you have with those cousins. Some of those cousins may have information about your ancestry that you don't have. By matching with the DNA, you can actually confirm your ancestry is accurate. So, and Kitty, do you have something to add? I was just gonna say, and it can be a very distant cousin. It doesn't have to be a first cousin or anything. Yes, it can be. And how many times have you been asked this and I'm gonna ask you this again, but what kind of DNA test should someone take? Okay, if you're a male, I highly recommend that you take a wide DNA test because that tells you about your direct male line all the way back to the beginning. Males and females can take a mitochondrial test that will reveal their direct maternal line all the way back to the beginning. And anyone can also do an autosomal DNA test and it will look at about, within about the five or six, seven, eight generations who you share DNA with within that, those amount of generations. And that also includes X DNA. And when you said, all the way to the beginning, you don't mean that. You mean all the way back to- Beginning of life. Beginning of life, from mitochondrial and Y, all the way back.  Right, but basically though, in genealogy, you really can't go past- WikiTree's only going about 2,000 years. And it's useful back that far. For Y and mitochondrial DNA. And for genealogy research, isn't there a kind of a cut off at the time that surnames started to be- For wide chromosome, you're looking at within the genealogical timeframe, which is when surnames became fixed with direct male lines and also when church records became reported and civil records became reported. The traditional genealogical resources. Kitty, do you have something? Just that as a Smith researcher, I'm finding that Y DNA is the only way to sort out the different Smith lines. And so if you take a test and you have a match on any of the surnames, you know that that's your genetic family and you can ignore all the other families that have that same surname because you're not related to them, at least not genetically. So- One thing I'd like to add is right currently, autosomal DNA testing is very popular, but it's actually very difficult to use and why DNA testing is exceedingly easy to use and it's exceedingly powerful. And mitochondrial DNA is incredibly easy to use, but because we live in a patriarchal society, the matrilineal, the mother's line, you don't get surnames. So the surnames change each generation, but that's usually the part of our tree that's least known. So it's actually quite helpful to do a mitochondrial test because you can actually add to that line of ancestry. That's so cool. And when you get a DNA test and your test is back, we have all these results, the information is on the testing site. Why do I need to bring my test over and do something with it on WikiTree? Why would I do that? What's great about WikiTree is that we can associate that DNA with the ancestry. In the same way that the DNA is inherited, WikiTree will automatically associate the different types of DNA tests with the ancestry. Okay, and how do you do it? I mean, on your profile, you just say what type of test you took, a description about your test, and there's public databases that where you enter your information, the DNA information is not on WikiTree, it's in a public database. And the public database for the Y chromosome is Y-search. The database for mitochondrial DNA is Mito-search. And for, if you test it with ancestry DNA or 23andMe or family tree DNA, family finder, then you wanna use GEDmatch. And that will allow, and if you put your GEDmatch ID and your Mito-search ID and your Y-search ID into on your profile, then it will associate that information with your ancestry. And you can actually do comparisons of the DNA, your DNA with your cousins and other relatives and- Through those third party sites. Through those third party sites. And those third party sites, when we say that it's GEDmatch, Mito-search, Y-search. And I have a question that comes up a lot. I did my DNA testing in Boyd, does my ethnicity look off? Why does my ethnicity look off when I'm looking at the major testing companies ethnicity reports? They're using different populations. Like family tree DNA, they will use one scientific study of sampling of various populations. And then ancestry DNA is using other populations. So it's a small sample of what does an Irish person look like, what does a German person look like? And so you're actually, and different samples look differently. And plus the way the algorithm works is that it's putting it into the nearest bucket. Right. And so if your real population of your ancestry is not represented by one of those buckets, then it goes into the closest bucket. So it may say you're from Germany, but you may have no ancestry from Germany, the closest bucket is France. And I'm gonna do a shout out here to Brian Sykes in his book, The Seven Daughters of Eve. I can pinpoint my mitochondrial haplogroup because of that book. I know where my original ancestor lived 30,000 years ago in the Austrian Alps area. So, and that's, if you wanna do research beyond that, get some of the books that National Geographic's, what is his name? Oh, Spencer Wells. Spencer Wells has put together Brian Sykes' great books on ethnicity and ethnic origins and the origins of our people, all of us, and when we came out of Africa. I'm gonna move on a little bit to the DNA project. I can throw in a couple of comments if I could. Oh, that sounds great, Julie. Number one, we're being broadcast at our booths, so say hello to Roots Tech. Hey, Roots Tech! Hey, Roots Tech! Secondly, they love your tie, Peter. Thank you. My wife bought it. It's beautiful. And Charlotte would like to know, Kitty, if you'd consider writing a genetic genealogy for Dummy's book. She doesn't know any Dummy, so how could she write for us? Yeah, most of what I write is on WikiTree. I don't have a blog like Mags, and so when I have a bit of information to impart it usually ends up on G to G. There's a, let me give a shout out to ISOG, the International Society of Genetic Genealogy. They've got some wonderful resources for beginners, and the information is evolving constantly, and so it's really helpful to see the most current information. Unfortunately, what you write in a book oftentimes becomes outdated. Very quickly, and there are a couple of bloggers that are actually WikiTreers. Kitty Munson Cooper does a great blog about genealogy. Not to be confused with Kitty Cooper Smith. That's correct. Roberta Estes is an excellent blogger. And Blaine Bettinger also does that, and all three of those people are here, and I've only gotten a hug from Kitty Munson Cooper so far, so yeah, so how about any more over there, Julie? Right now, we're clear. I don't know if they can hear me because I was having an echo so I had to shut that off. All right. I'm gonna do some adjustments here. Okay, cool. So, what do you do when you find a profile where you share DNA with another person who shows up in the profile list? You wanna try to answer that? Oh. Or do you wanna ask a question again? Okay, on your profile, when you have DNA, you go back several generations, great-great-grandfather. You see a list of other people who have also DNA tested. What do you do when you see that list? Well, if it's an autosomal match, I will look at their GEDMatch ID, and then I'll compare in GEDMatch. I'll see if we have any shared segments. Go ahead, Kitty. Peter and I have a slightly different approach. My goal in taking an autosomal test with 23andMe was to find genetic cousins. So, the numbers don't really mean as much to me, although I know it's extremely important, but what I do is on each profile is a choice to choose your surnames, and it's a list of all the surnames that are autosomal matches. I send that list to my match, and I say, are any of these surnames on your family tree? If they are, then that's where we start concentrating our research to find our common autosomal ancestor. Well, Ed, I just wanna throw in here in just a minute. Peter worked really hard with the people over at GEDMatch to do some really incredible things recently. Do you wanna touch on that for just a minute? What's really nice is that anyone, if you're in GEDMatch, anyone who has their ancestry in wiki tree, you can automatically see, when you've got a match in GEDMatch, you can automatically see their eight generation tree in wiki tree. That is so cool. That is cool. And just a click of a button. Yes. And does that not include the tier one membership? Right now it's tier one, but there's talk of making that a freebie. That would be good, since wiki tree is a freebie. Yes. And GEDMatch is usually a freebie. It is a freebie, but the $10 contribution that you make to GEDMatch helps GEDMatch keep going, so it's an important thing to do. What is the, Kitty, what is the most common falsehood you have ever heard about DNA? I'm gonna ask you this, too. The most common one is, well, how could they get DNA from my ancestor that's been buried for 500 years? And how do you do that? Well, we don't. We don't dig up bodies. What we do is we look for DNA matches on living people, and that shows us where to look to do our research and find the common ancestors. When you say falsehood, I'm gonna say misunderstanding. There you go. Okay, because the biggest misunderstanding that I see is that people will take a DNA test and they are trying to use ethnicity to find ancestry in terms of the fact that I've got 40% of my ancestry is from Ireland and a certain percentage is from Northern Europe, and trying to use that information for genealogy. And that's kind of fun to know, but it's really the matching segments that's important for on autosomal DNA and the matching white chromosomes and the matching hematocontal DNA that's helpful for genealogy. And when you say matching segments, what you're talking about are, we all have these chromosomes and they're numbered one through 22 and then we have the X and the Y. And when you say segments, it's actually a part of a single chromosome. Yeah, it's sort of like you and I might match on chromosome nine from a stark position to an end position and hopefully it's like more than seven centimorgans. And that segment is coming from a shared ancestor. And the big question is, what is a shared ancestry? And that's the part that WikiTree is really good at. And they've got an incredible program of relationship finder where we can do two to five people. What is their relationship for two to five people? And that's the type of thing that you see, we talk about sometimes about triangulated groups and that's everyone matching each other on the same segment. And they all inherited that segment from a shared ancestor. What is the shared ancestry? Okay, and that's the really good thing about WikiTree is that we can do that for you. We do have another question about the conchonion. I think my audio might be echoing, so I'm gonna make it quick. Charlotte wants to know how the X chromosome, she said spreads out on WikiTree, I'm assuming she means propagates out, right? So WikiTree's got an amazing feature that it will allow you to see which of your ancestors could have contributed to your X chromosome. It can also show you which of your eight and ancestors descendants could have inherited that ancestors X chromosome. When you're in GED match and when you're in 23andMe and also your family finder, you can see who you match on the X chromosome. WikiTree can very easily, you can share a URL of showing a webpage of the people that could have contributed to your X and you can say to them, send them that, you can email them that page and you can say to them, do you have any of these ancestors in your ancestral tree? Because those ancestors are the only ones that could have contributed to my X and you and I are matching on the X. Right, that's interesting. Kitty, anything about the X chromosome? No, Peter's the expert thing. Yeah, and nobody else does that. Nobody else has information on the X like that. And you have to get that at WikiTree. They have it on individual workstations, well, you know, in individual computers, but not on the internet working with the DNA and the ancestry. And back to a very beginning question on DNA and WikiTree, what is, what's the big deal about privacy concerns and DNA and how we do that on WikiTree? First off, when you do a normal DNA test, people are concerned, you know, my DNA is getting out there. We're looking at about 600,000 base pairs. That's, and compared to the whole genome, that's like five inches compared to a 30-story building. We're only looking at a tiny little portion of the total genome. But anyway, so we're only looking at a little bit about, we're only looking at a small amount of the DNA. The thing is in WikiTree, if you need to be private, you can make your parents private. Your tree has to be public. You have to say that your tree is public. You can be anonymous first name, you can use an initial for your first name, but you need to be, your tree needs to be public for the DNA to propagate on WikiTree. And I have that question a lot. And my father has graciously done DNA testing for me, so I know what the Y line is of my surname. And he also has graciously allowed me to post his part of our tree as public, but the rest of his information is private. So he is technically still very protected, even though he does that and I do that. And privacy seems to be a big question. One of the things that I wanted to point out is that WikiTree doesn't take the raw data. WikiTree does not put your DNA specifically on WikiTree. All WikiTree does is take your test information, who you tested with and what kind of test you took. So nobody's running around WikiTree with your DNA. We don't wanna clone you. That's a big deal. We don't wanna clone you.  So going on from that, there are 464 members in the DNA project. That's a huge project to lead. What does a member of the DNA project do? They usually agree to put their information about their DNA tests on their profile so that it is propagated down the line. It includes setting the privacy level to include a public family tree so that that information can be propagated. It also provides for joining the, some people joined the WikiTree project on family tree DNA, which we're collecting basically a list of each one of the haplogroups and who's tested in each haplogroup. So each section of that program is sorted according to haplogroup. And there's a Google chatroom thing. Not what do you call it? Google, it's a Google community. Google. Thank you. Thank you, that one. The common groups where I come from. Okay, Google groups. Is for the DNA members of the project on WikiTree. What would be really great is to get more of the project members involved in terms of actually volunteering to do certain tasks. Like we've got a lot of people in WikiTree that added all of their DNA information, but they're red private. And when it's red private, nothing happens. And so they need to make their tree private. And a lot of times they don't realize because the public, the default setting is private. And so they need to change the default setting so that their tree is public. So it'd be great to have people. And here's an announcement for you. Kitty could make the announcement if you wanted to. That over the weekend, we have talked about creating some tasks and having somebody come on to help lead the project that is a good person at getting tasks delegated or put out for people. So I am joining the project as one of the project leaders, along with Kay Wilson and Kitty Cooper. So there are gonna be some changes in the DNA project coming up. And hopefully we'll get some of these 464 people more involved in some of the 37,606 people who have been DNA tested, also more involved in the project. Because that's one of the great things about WikiTree is that our projects really, really drive some of the most incredible work that we do beyond just adding trees to WikiTree. How many projects are you involved in? Three or four, I got the 1776 project, which is for anyone, any of our ancestors that were involved in the American Revolution. I have the early Pennsylvania settlers, which are any settlers in Pennsylvania before 1700 and the DNA project and a couple of one name studies. Smith. God Smith. God Smith. How many projects are you involved in? I'm the leader of the Bahamas project. I'm also involved in the, well, I'm also a member of the Scottish Clans project that I haven't been doing anything much active in that, but I wish they were more active. So being the leader of the Bahamas project, do you get to go down to the Bahamas to do research for the project? There's a lot of great people that are in the Bahamas that are doing research for me. But occasionally they ask me to come down and speak at various cultural festivals. Do you need somebody to carry your bags? Oh, I have my wife that does that. So back to the DNA project and just showing that you're active in other projects was really a good thing because people, we really love Wiki Tree and we like working in our projects. Wait, the 464 members of the project, were there any requirements that needed to be met before they could join the project? Do they have, have your DNA tested? Yes. Absolutely, to join the project? Well, I don't know, I would like them to be DNA tested. No, no. Okay. No, if you join the project, Peter will send you a note. To ask and turn off your red privacy. Where's your DNA? Where's your DNA? So you don't have to be, are there any other prerequisites? No, pretty much an interest in DNA and the future of DNA testing will is about your only calling card that you need to join the project. Just send me an email, say I'd like to join the DNA project and I'll be glad to give you the badge. And we have another quick question. Right. What type of tasks are there that other, that people can do when they join the project? Peter. One of the, one thing could be, would be a lot of people have entered like capital group information and they've made a typographical errors and entering it. Some people have entered mitochondrial DNA and YDNA result information. We've got a little bit of confusion and just this general easy correcting that needs to be done to make and the privacy setting obviously. But then an encouraging people to, some, a lot of people have, if you go to Y-search, you can find people. A lot of people have a Y-search ID but it's not in wiki tree. And it's possible to actually find those IDs and tell the person, this is your Y-search ID, please add it to your account in wiki tree. I've also run into somebody that has, they're on JED match, but they don't have their JED match number listed. And they actually didn't know how to list their JED match. They were, they were really interested in wiki tree, but didn't know some of the nuances about doing that kind of thing. And so, having people in the DNA project stop by and help people that we know are on JED match, but don't have the information up, it would be great to do that. And there was also another thing that we were talking about doing, which was getting people available to help with the adoption angels project a little bit because doing DNA testing in the adoption angels project is a huge thing because it's a huge thing because sometimes you don't have any information at all and you want to do that. So getting some helpers started to have the task of helping new people with their DNA information and also with those adoption angels, that would be a big deal. That would be a big deal. We've got some more, we've got some more guests that have arrived and we're going to shuffle them in here in just a few minutes. But we wanted to, I wanted to go on to the DNA questions that pop up in G to G. Is there a single question that you can think of that is the most asked question in G to G? How do I add my DNA to WikiTree?  Right. And you add your JED match ID to WikiTree. And that's the secret there. So we don't want your DNA again, we don't want to clone you. What kind of outside projects are you two guys interested in? I know that you've written some articles, Kitty. I did. I wrote an article about a particular brick wall in the 1600s that was broken down on WikiTree. And other than that, somebody asked me, what do I do outside? There's something other than genealogy. It's pretty much what I do for all the time. I have now a brand new club that I've just started in my community of called Ancestor Hunters Genealogy Clubs. Oh, that's fun. And you, Peter? So outside of the DNA project, I'm very involved in the Bahamas project at WikiTree and also a Bahamas DNA project, which is using all labs. And I'm encouraging the members of the Bahamas DNA project to have their ancestry in WikiTree so that it can be a collaborative effort of all the DNA test takers. So your outside hobby actually goes back to WikiTree? Well, I found WikiTree through my Bahamas DNA project. I need a good charts, descendant charts and ancestral trees to use in my Bahamas DNA project. Kitty, did you have something else to add? I do want to add that I encourage everybody that's tested with family tree DNA, whether it's a wide DNA or mitochondrial or autosomal, I encourage you to find the project on family tree DNA that your surname would be involved with. A lot of people don't know that they can just search for a project and surname and find the project that's associated with that name. Okay, that's a great, great hint. I'm part of a couple of surname DNA projects. And I relate them to the surname projects that I have on WikiTree as well. So that's a really good loop there as well. What is, do you have a day job, Kitty? No, I'm retired. There she's retired. And Peter, do you have a day job? My day job is an archivist, but I'm retiring soon, very soon.  Cool, are you gonna move back to the Bahamas? Not anytime real soon. I don't think people realize that he's actually a Bahamian. So we gotta get him to get a place down there so we can all go visit him.  If I can say your daughter's name. Erin. Erin is a huge travel partner with, is she also involved in genealogy? No, she really isn't. But my mom was the beginning of my interest in genealogy I often kid that we would go out for family picnics and quaint little cemeteries, because we never, you know, we only went to the cemeteries. We had no reason to go to the parks. And I want to point out that Peter here, sorry, Peter's wife. Peter has this beautiful brand new pen. It's Peter, Peter's Peter pen, that his daughter gave him. And it's a double helix just before he came on this trip. So your family also is very important. Yes. I've got a wife and three children. Oh wow. And I also have a dog from the Bahamas that I DNA tested.  That's taking it a bit far, just in my books. Well, I have one more question. The last question is, what is your favorite color? Orange. Orange. There you go. Thank you so much both of you for being here. Great to have you. Great to talk about DNA. And we're actually gonna get together the three of us and Kay Wilson and we're gonna be putting together some helpful videos with screenshots and information to help people get their DNA up on WikiTree and move forward with that. So be looking for that here in the future. And thank you very much both for being here. Thank you, Meg. Thanks, Meg. Yeah, great. We're gonna bring in our next guests. We'll be just leaving. We slide it down the couch, guys. What's that?  Yeah, we're still alive. I know that. We're joined now by WikiTree Forest Elf and Chris Whitten, our founder and chief, our CEO, our president, our chief honcho. I was teasing him this morning. I said, no gorillas, swing from trees, we could name you the WikiTree Gorilla. He didn't like that. I just put that out here. Yeah, I thought that died this morning at breakfast. Apparently it didn't. Apparently it didn't, it was in my brain. So we're so excited to be here. We're all so tired and just exhausted and my tongue doesn't even wanna move. I'm so tired from talking. I'm surprised I still have a voice. Every year that I've been, on the last day I lose my voice. Yeah. How's your voice going? So far my voice is just fine. And you? It's okay. Yeah, it started a little hoarse. So I'm all right. Curtis Rogers today from Jedmatch came by and he was waiting for Chris to come back to our booth. And Curtis actually accused you of not doing any work while you're here. He said, every time I come by the booth, Chris is not there. So. Yeah, I don't do any work. No. No, I do work when I'm home. Now here, WikiTree is totally virtual. You guys know. Right. I work in the headquarters. There's no office. I work from home. You guys work from home.  Really, it's the only time. And other people in the genealogy industry. So I've actually had a lot of great conversations talking to Curtis Rogers at Jedmatch. I mean, you know, we're doing more and more with Jedmatch. They're busy guys. They've always got a lot on their plate. And so it's been sort of on the to-do list for years to do some WikiTree Jedmatch integration. And the fact that some of this is final and coming together is really exciting.  That's about it. He's a nice guy. Yeah, we were talking about the integration earlier with Peter and with Kitty. And that's something that's so exciting. And what's really exciting is to talk to somebody with Jedmatch who I can't imagine anybody being more excited about WikiTree than we are. But he's just excited as can be about getting the integration that we've gotten going. Who's the most favorite person you've met while you've been here this weekend? My favorite person? Besides me. Well, who else is there? Really besides you.  We did a sourceathon a few months ago and she actually won the Roots Tech Prize. And Sarah, Sarah, I'm gonna butcher her last name because I don't know if it's Heine or Heine, but she's just a great member of the WikiTree community. It was cool to get to meet her and chat with her and hear about all the cool stuff that she's just working on on her own. So, yeah, she's my favorite. I really liked meeting Sarah. I thought that was great. That's one of the cool things is when you can get members that you've never met in person. Just hear their perspective, spend a little time talking to them, it's so valuable. It's so fun. And we're also taking pictures and putting stuff up on Instagram of people who are WikiTrees or not and doing draws for free cools, t-shirts and sweatshirts. We also have a banner, a WikiTree banner out on one of our tables and we have WikiTreers coming by and they're signing it with their WikiTree ID. Does anybody have any idea how many names we have on it so far? About 30. About 30? Cool. It's been pretty awesome. Yeah. Is there somebody that you've met that just kind of floored you this weekend or? Well, just now I've talked to Dallin Quass, who's the founder of We Relate. Some people might know that as another genealogy Wiki, same basic idea as WikiTree started around the same time, maybe even a little bit earlier. So I've known Dallin for a long time, many years now and I think every root stack, that's the opportunity we get to spend some time talking and I just think he's a genius. I love talking, brainstorming with him. We might be doing some cool stuff. His new product is Roots Finder, which is a complete tree management system, a way to manage your tree privately, for those people that don't want something totally collaborative, that do want to manage something. Some family members on their own. And it's really cool. It's really slick. The UI is terrific. It's got some really innovative features in it and so I really enjoyed that conversation. That is, that's fun. And it's also fun the, they have, Roots Tech is very technically oriented and there are a lot of people here who did a competition this week for the innovators summit and so there are a lot of people walking around with big ideas. And that's also a lot of fun to see when we're walking around. The other thing about Roots Tech is all of these giants of the genealogical industry are having breakfast with us in the mornings. We've had Dick Eastman and Randy Sieber come over and talk to us and break bread with us. And that's fun. And you see people walking around, Josh Taylor and Judy Russell, all these people are walking around like normal people, the people there, the big hitters like Chris Whitton. You run into Chris Whitton on the floor all the time. Speaking of Josh, anyone said that Josh mentioned us in a presentation. All right. Yeah, I was pretty happy to hear about that. Yeah, he was talking about the online cloud entries and a lot of people came to the booth after that and said that he had talked about us. That's great. It's pretty awesome. I know that there's a media hub center where a lot of the well-known bloggers are in. I've seen Maureen Taylor with Photo Detective is here and Kirstie Gray, who is an honorary Ottawa in the city I'm from because she went to the university there. So Ontario as well represented and OGS thrown the plug. Anybody else wanna throw in a plug for their genealogy society? I guess not, really. OGS conference 2017. I think the population here has diminished a bit. I saw it. I saw it. I saw it. Julie, do we have any questions from the gallery for Chris or for Aowyn? Right now Charlotte wants to know what all your flags are on the bottom of your badge there, Aowyn. She said that's really long. So at the booths, they like to give out things for people to have to represent. And so these tags are very popular. There's a wiki tree. We have a wiki tree dot com one that says where genealogists collaborate. And then I just have a little collection like the surname society and dear Myrtle's friend. She's a genealogy blogger and Queen B. That's me. I've got the exhibitor badge and I'm a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists. I've got my wiki tree badge of the surname society. And one of the most important people that I wanted to meet while I was here was the Low Country Africana. And she writes blogs about South Carolina and a lot of the Low Country Africana stuff, which is really just so cool. And my friend, Kirsty Gray, gave me my favorite badge and I wanted to make sure I shared this with you. It says Troublemaker. I am so innocent.  Yeah, nobody knows you. And now everybody knows. Yeah, I'm a Troublemaker. Yeah, I don't do the ribbons because I kind of feel like once you start, it's a slippery slope. And if you don't, I cut mine off this year because there are people walking around that they dragged to the floor. They have them down the sides now. And I cut off this year. People keep trying to give me their things that I take them and say, oh, I'm going to put it on later. Sorry, I didn't. Secrets out. So anything specific that you guys wanted to see that you haven't been able to see this year here? Kitty Munson Cooper, right? Oh, you know, we went to her presentation, her triangulation presentation last year. Yeah, I wanted to catch it again because she does such a great job and it slows things into my brain about junior triangulation. And so I think if there was anything on my list to do, it was to see her presentation. The other Kitty Cooper. Yeah. Not the Kitty Cooper who was present. Yeah, I wanted to see that too. But time flies. I forget to eat lunch when I'm here because it is so busy and it's so much fun. Just so much fun to be able to talk to people and to explain wiki treat to people and to bring people in. Julie, we could probably talk about wrapping this up unless you guys have something else that you wanted to. I do have one more question. Great, great. Question from the chat room here. Jude is asking, you know, there's a few people that come into wiki tree and they have a hard time getting started and trying to figure out how to keep people from getting frustrated and try to help them mount that learning curve a little more effectively. And Chris or Aowen, do you have any ideas on how we could do that or anything that's in the works? So I can comment on the technical side of that. A little bit. There's always a lot more we can do. Sort of embarrassing. Our help pages aren't searchable. They just kind of hit me this morning. God, that's embarrassing. So okay, we'll fix that soon. That's going to move to the top of the priority list. We do have the index. Yeah, we have an index. And of course you can then search. You can go control F or whatever and search. And you can search all of wiki tree using Google. But so we really should make the help pages searchable. A lot of what searching, I mean a lot of what usability problems are all about is not delivering the right information at the right time. And that is difficult. Would that be correct for the table of contents? For the help pages? No. No, okay. Sorry. Just now. No, back. No, nice. Okay. Do you want to maybe talk about what the future is for wiki tree? I'm sorry. Julie, could you say that again? Sure. Along the lines of some of the changes you're making for the help pages and all that. Do you have, would you like to comment on maybe what the future is for wiki tree, maybe five years from now? I... No. I don't know. I mean it, I think it's clear the direction we're headed in. Like there's no secret agenda that the wiki tree grows with its community. We don't make major changes without this being what the community wants. You know it's not like there's something on the other side of the curtain. No. No. It's community driven. Yeah. Everybody who's really involved knows me and knows how wiki tree evolves and others on the tech team. And the other side of that is what the future of wiki tree is. What do you want the future of wiki tree to be? Your wiki tree. Well, no. Bring it on. No. Just no. No. No. No. We have a mission. I'm teasing you, but I think this is an important point because there are some people that start organizations and they do just sort of let it blow with the wind. And no, wiki tree, we know what we're doing. I think everybody that's involved knows that we're growing one tree where we're connecting people and we are collaborating on genealogy. And so we always have to know what our mission is and stay true to that. Right. But it's how we do it. You know, what we have to do. What tools we need to do that that evolves and changes and we always get better at. And community input is a part of that. It's a big part of the process. Essential part of it. Yeah. Anyone, do you want to make a comment about that as well? Not about that because he answered it perfectly. Perfectly. He is the wiki tree. And she's a cheerleader for me. Oh, there it is. Yeah. Thank you, everyone. And Chris is the cheerleader for all of us. I promise you that. Except you. Except you. No. We have a mutual admiration society going on. You guys need to send me some love here. I'm not getting it. I know Max is needed. Okay. You were going to say something. No, I wanted to go back to Jude's question. Okay. Yeah. We do have a lot of things in place to kind of try and help members because there is a learning curve and wiki tree is different than pretty much any other genealogy site. You would try and go to.  And so you have an initial point of contact with somebody that you can reach out to. And if you have questions, they can answer them or they can get you going in the right direction or help you find someone who can help you. We also have amazing mentors. Yes, we do. Who just freely give them a lot of their time to help members get situated and help a lot of questions of sourcing or how do I get started or what are duplicate. And on wiki tree, we have a help menu. You can find the mentors there. That's one way to contact them. And then we also have an amazing forum. It's our genealogist to genealogist forum and members can go there and post questions and get help. And I'm just always amazed at how often and how quickly people in our community jump in to answer questions and to help guide people. And it's amazing. The wiki tree community is amazing. Do we have any more questions from the chat? No, everybody is really enjoying the conversation here. And it's our primary cheerleader here. Charlotte. I wanted to say that the numbers as of about just a few minutes ago for we have 13 million 255 238 profiles currently on wiki tree. And those are all managed and cared for and tended and loved by 398,594 volunteers. Wow. That's just great. We're going great. Wanted to move on really quickly and we can all enjoy this to our G to G post for this week that we found. And the one question that always gets bumped up to the top of the list is Julie's question of the week, which is what one or more genealogically related statement would you like added to your obituary? That was a fun one. Julie. We had some really good ones. I'd like to start with Rhys Haywich. She wrote a poem for us. She said, here lieth Rhys genealogist because though heaven bound where angels sound, her sources say she was.  So he's going to be able to make sure you get all the data. Dorothy Barry chimed in and said, I'm sorry if I got your information wrong on wiki tree, but you didn't leave me much to go on. And one of my favorites was from Christina Adams. She said, when you cut out this obituary to save, please record the date and name of the newspaper. So the next generation of genealogists has a little less trouble attaching me to a tree. Those were some of our premieres. That's good. Did you have any more that were spectacular you wanted to throw in? I think those were our top answers. All right. The genealogical tip of the day from your grandma is what is the genealogical conference. And I've added to this list, Advil. Good walking shoes. Camera. A bag to put all of the swag in. Because all of these booze have grays. We have the best swag. We have great armbands. And we do pictures. We've got great ribbons. And t-shirts. We have great ribbons. We have great ribbons. We have great ribbons. And t-shirts. We're selling these wonderful t-shirts. And we can be spotted from anywhere in the place. Also, ten a note paper. Because you run into people and people want to make notes. I've had so many people ask me if we have note paper. Or is there a note place? And people start writing on the strangest things. You'd be surprised. Breath mints. Oh, now that was just a dream. Oh, it was a dream. It was just a dream. I wasn't insinuating it. I think we should bring in the sooths to do foot rubs. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Lots of stuff. So there are lots of things. Do you have something special you bring to the conference? How do you bring the swag? You bring the swag. I bring anyone. You guys are not helping me. Okay. We've been here a while. I want to thank... You cannot laugh. We'll get slapped. Yeah, no. You don't want us to do that. We want to thank Peter and Katie for being here to help us and to talk to us about DNA. And of course, look for the help video that we're going to be putting together soon with some screenshots and all sorts of information. For beginners to be able to see the next genetic people. I want to also thank, I think, AOMN and CRISPR stopping by to share just our smile and our kind of punch-drunk happiness here with you. And I want to tell you that next week we're going to have Patrick Barnum on with all things Latin America. I think Karen Togo is going to stop in and be with us as well. Talk about the Puerto Rico Indigenous Project. So all things Latin America next week with Patrick Barnum. And unfortunately, I won't be anywhere near where Patrick Barnum is. I would love to be able to, but I'll be back home in Ottawa and we'll be doing the chat from there. Julie, thank you so much for moderating the chat. And AOMN has something else to say. I just want to give a shout out to the people who we left behind at the booth. Oh, yeah. They're awesome. So Karen and Michael. Thank you so much, you guys. Have a great, great week. I said the mouse is not working. So you guys just, can you, maybe say goodbye again? Bye. Bye again.


I believe that His Excellency Dr. Isayuguda, the trustees and the executive of the APC Professionals Forum, deserve our commendation for providing this very unique platform, a forum for APC professionals. And I must say that I'm honored to host you today and join you at this first ever public convening of the forum. I also bring you the warm greetings of Mr. President, President Muhammad Buhari. The theme, the role of professionals in politics and nation building, is an important one because it provokes questions about the role of the Nigerian elite in shaping the destiny of our nation. In doing so, we must also interrogate the narrower but equally important question of the role of the APC as a political party in nation building. I think first we must admit that we are frequently in a classic conundrum. We find many gifted, accomplished and remarkable Nigerian individuals and professionals in particular across all walks of life all over the world. But there is a clear mismatch between our individual quality and our national outcomes. We have not yet become greater, as they say, than the sum of our individual selves. It is this paradox of individual genius and collective underperformance that we must now break. As part of an honest inquest, we must admit that part of the challenge is the fact that holding public office in Nigeria at any level is largely perceived as synonymous with the accumulation of power, privilege and wealth. By the same token, the understanding of public office as an instrument of service and as a responsibility to the people has been relegated to the background. So turning this tide is at the heart of our task as professionals who are interested or involved in politics and nation building. And this is especially so for we who are professionals in the APC. The critical point to be made is that professionals are the elite in a poor society such as ours and professionals are therefore enormously privileged in a society such as ours. We represent a small fraction of 200 million Nigerians many of whom are poor, vulnerable and without a voice. So it's my thesis that the privilege or the elite both individually and collectively have a responsibility. We have an obligation to society to plan it, to organize it, to order it, to reorder it and to make it and to do so with all manner of sacrifices and for the maximum benefit of all. This is the burden of privilege. It is important to understand for the professional that because we are an elite, we bear a burden of the privilege that we enjoy as an elite. It's our obligation individually and collectively to charge the cause for the millions to define and house the ethos, the ethics and the public sense of the people. It's our expected role to find common cause across professions, vocations, ethnicities and faiths defining the minimum terms and conditions for the safety, for the growth, for the prosperity of our communities. It is the elite that define clearly what is lofty, what is noble, what is deserving of honor and how these values can be sustained, preserved and enforced. This is the burden of privilege. And in French they will say no bless, oblige. That nobility obligates or perhaps not correctly for our purpose, privilege places an obligation upon us. For us in the APC perhaps that obligation is even greater. For the first time in Nigeria's history, a left of center party is in power. And I just want to say very quickly that there is no question at all that the party that we're in represents that left of center. The APC came together from a number of opposition parties, many of who could be classified under that general rubric of progressives, primarily because of their left of center orientation. Although then the new PDP joined, it is indisputable that the heart and soul of the APC remains essentially left of center. In other words, a party committed, devoted to the common man. Our presidential candidate, and now President Mohamed Dabuhari, was a product of the firm will of the common man, not the product of an elite consensus. And must continue to remember that. It was a product of the firm will of the common man. And despite elite consensus or elite collaborations or conspiracies, he repeatedly won elections or at least was able to deliver significant votes in every election since 2003. In developing our manifesto, we pay tribute to our soul by promising to introduce the largest social investment policy in Africa. And we did implement and we are still implementing the largest social investment policy in Africa. And the reason why we're able to do so is because of the orientation of our party. We believe that a significant portion of our budget must be dedicated to social investments. In other words, catering for the poor and for the vulnerable. So we're feeding 9.5 million children in public schools and we're doing so for years now. The NPARP job scheme provides for 500,000 young Nigerians and now one million. The president just increased that number to one million. And 20,000 non-graduates in different areas of public services. These volunteers are in 774 local government areas in all of the six states. We give out the Jeep loans comprising market money, farmer money, trader money. For the very first time in the history of our country, we grab micro credit loans to over two million Nigerian petty traders, artisans and businessmen nationwide. Our opponents who are on the right would argue that why are you giving money? Why are you giving small loans to these people? But they do not argue that in this same country, 5.7 trillion Naira is what about 200 Nigerians owed the banks in Nigeria before Amcon was created. 5.7 trillion Naira, about 200 Nigerians owed that. But we spent just 20 billion on giving 2 million Nigerians traders, farmers, et cetera. We spent just 20 billion in providing them with micro credit. And of course there will be arguments all over the place. But we as a left of center party believe very clearly that our focus must be on the common man. And we kept faith with that. Over a million people now approaching 2 million have received conditional cash transfers. And this social investment policy is the precursor of a full-scale social safety net. But we are now challenged with the current economic and human development challenges that face not just our country but face the entire world. In our case, the president has promised to move 100 million people out of poverty within a decade. We must provide good paying jobs for the largest number of Africans under the age of 30 on the face of the earth. We must educate millions of children, provide healthcare for millions, and a public health system robust enough to handle pandemics when they occur. Already the problems that we thought would be in the future are here. And we are called upon to provide answers. How do we provide for a population growing at 5 million new children every year? The challenge of mechanizing farming and dealing with the farm to table value chain. The challenge of building productive enterprises as opposed to a rent-based economy. How do we deal with the end of investments in oil are major foreign exchange earner? By 2030, all major funding for oil and gas projects will almost certainly end. Many car companies will stop producing combustion engine cars. By 2030, how will we ensure that our huge reserves of oil that remain benefit us between now and then? How will we ensure that we're able to transit to a non-oil economy in just a few short years? How will we electrify our population? How will we ensure that our people have power? Because without power, it's impossible to develop even small scale industry at an optimal level to be able to make the kind of living that people should expect to make. These are some of the tasks that we are confronted with. And of course, there is a central issue of security and reading our nation of terrorism and gang criminality. And any one of us will agree that our government has been confronted with perhaps the majority and multiplicity of complex problems that any government has had to deal with, at least in the history of our country, two recessions, a pandemic that has now entered its third year, terrorist activities in three zones of the country. And our approach has been to plan and to stick to the plan. We started with the economic recovery and growth plan which enabled us to exit the first recession. In response to the fallout of the pandemic, we put in place a stimulus driven economic sustainability plan that enabled us to exit the second recession. And a few weeks ago, the Federal Executive Council approved our national development plan 2021 to 2025. That national development plan focuses on value addition across all sectors, including agriculture, manufacturing, solid minerals, digital services, tourism, hospitality, sports and entertainment. In agriculture, for example, we're paying equal attention to primary production as well as other aspects of the value chain such as storage, transportation, processing, marketing and exports. In similar context, the plan places great emphasis on the import and export of goods and services, especially leveraging of the African free trade continental trade agreements. We know for a fact that we cannot have import and export without ensuring that our ports work efficiently. We know that we cannot have the kind of manufacturing that we expect to have without ensuring that NAVDAC, SON and all our regulatory agencies understand that their role is a role of a facilitator, not policemen, that they are facilitators. And all of these are part of the plan, part of the national development plan. And of course, part of our ease of doing business innovations that will continue to do year after year. Technology will play a key role in that development plan. Many may not know that since 2016, Nigeria has developed six unicorns, tech companies that are worth over one billion dollars each. We believe that we can leverage technology and innovation to create the millions of jobs and opportunities which we will require now and in the coming years. And we just heard the MD of NICSA tell us a few things about what is being done there. Let me conclude with the following thoughts for our further consideration. The usefulness of professionals in politics is that you have people who are used to being assessed on the basis of their own achievements and who are unafraid to make competence the first advertorial of their acumen. In other words, professionals emphasize the role of merit in public life. So one of the major advantages to our communities of having professionals in politics is lost. One of those advantages is lost if we do not recognize that our role as merit driven persons must be to fight the temptation of ethnic, religious, and other parochial considerations in making the crucial decisions for the development of our nation. And I'll just emphasize that, that there is no point in having professionals in politics if the professionals are driven by ethnic, religious, and other parochial considerations. That's your point. Because the whole point of professionalism is that you are defined by merit. You are defined by your professional acumen. Nobody would place their lives in the hands of an incompetent doctor because they share the same faith or continue to patronize a dangerously inept mechanic because they belong to the same tribe. If someone told me, for example, that the pilot who is to fly the plane that I'm to go in is not a very good pilot, but he's from Ikenna, my hometown, I certainly won't go in that plane. So in the same way, we must especially refuse to be swayed by those whose sole argument for power is an appeal to sectional sentiments. We must resist it and we must say no to it because otherwise we fail in our professional calling. Thirdly, while it is true that we have several excellent individuals in various spheres of society, we must recognize that success in a country such as ours can no longer be defined in personal or individual terms. We must come to the realization that is no longer sustainable to keep finding individual solutions to collective challenges. Development and prosperity cannot be understood merely as the exceptionalism of a few individuals that manage to prevail against the odds. This is not an adequate response to the challenges that confront us. True progress is about reimagining our collective circumstances and creating an environment that enables prosperity for us all. This is the challenge for us as professionals. To this end, we must see ourselves as stewards of the common good. Who have been entrusted with the privilege of managing our collective destiny? The collective destiny of our people for an allotted time. And we must do so with a conscience and to the best of our abilities. It's only through public spiritedness and dedication to the common good that we can as a people truly become greater than the sum of our parts. As one of our greatest writers, Chino Achebe once said, and I quote, he said, enlightened and thoughtful Nigerians must bestow themselves to the patriotic action of searching for decent and civilized political values. Our inaction or a cynical action is a serious betrayal of our education, our historic mission, and of succeeding generations who will have no future unless we save it for them now. End of quote. The future of our nation depends, I must say, on professionals, but those who are prepared to live up to their professional calling. Only the professionals who are prepared to live up to their professional calling will be able to define in one way or the other the real future of our nation. So let me again commend the APC Professionals Forum. For starting this important conversation, and I hope we will be able to mainstream some of the innovative ideas and some of the very important suggestions that are made here in our party and also in our governments across the nation. Thank you very much.


It was a momentous occasion on Thursday, July 1, 2021, when Kakosetli Si officially opened its doors to the public. The artisanal chocolate factory located at Belvedere Canaries handcrafts its chocolate nib, bar, and truffle to create an inimitable cocoa experience for its patrons. Maria Jackson, Operations Manager and owner of Kakosetli Si, has a background in confectionery as a pastry chef. She envisions Kakosetli Si will amplify the village's tourism product. We offer four experiences. They start from a bean to bar orientation tour and that basically is just a familiarization of the nature of how chocolate is made, understanding the quality of the product, from inception of harvesting to the final packaging and wrapping of the chocolate. A lot of attention is placed into that. So we want our guests to get that sort of understanding of that chocolate process. The other experience we offer is workshops. So the workshop basically is an in-depth, giving our customers or clients an in-depth understanding of how the chocolate is made and actually getting the opportunity to make it themselves. Established in 2015, Kakosetli Si went from a cottage industry operation to occupying a 200-square-foot building consisting of a production wing, retail area, workshop space and restaurant. When in full operation, the company hopes to employ 25 individuals from the community contributing to its economic development. Kakosetli Si also aspires to become one of Seendusha's leading export brands. Export Seendusha Chief Executive Officer, CEO Sunita Daniel, says Export Seendusha is working with the business to assist it in realizing that dream. We've been with Kakosetli Si from the very beginning because we've recognized the potential of the product to really go into the export markets and the international markets. So we've actually assisted them with packaging and branding and we've done some market research. We've actually taken them on a mission with us to the UK to look at what the market is like and I can tell you that the market for chocolates is in the billions of US dollars now and so we are actually not making full use of the market out there and so we're very happy that an authentic small company like Kakosetli Si could actually make that move and so we've here to support them and to ensure that they get into the international markets. Minister for Tourism, Information and Broadcasting, Culture and Creative Industries and Parliamentary Representative for Ancillary Canaries Hon. Dominic Fady says the opening of Kakosetli Si creates opportunity for the revitalization of the cocoa industry in the community of Canaries. Their success is going to help all of our success. It's going to help the cocoa farmers in Sufra. It's going to help the cocoa farmers in Miku South and cocoa farmers all over St. Lucia and I am just so inspired and I'm sure that so many of you are inspired by this. The Ministry of Tourism is very proud of the small part that we have played in making sure that the concessions available for this facility was approved by the cabinet so thank you the chairman of our cabinet Mr Prime Minister for your support in making sure that this small business enjoys the same tax breaks that many large companies in St. Lucia do enjoy. The community of Canaries has been the home of an icicle and curing factory both of which were foreign owned. The opening of locally owned and operated Kakosetli Si places significant focus on the empowerment of young women in the community. From the Government Information Service, I am Hermione Mark reporting.


Welcome back to Exotic Wine Travel. I am your host, Matthew Horkey. I've got a special guest here today, but I'll introduce her in a second. We're at the Go Volcanic Summit 2019 in Budapest, Hungary. There's over 50 volcanic wines from all over the world, mostly Italy, Portugal, Hungary, Slovakia, Canary Islands, Israel, and France. Israel, France, yes, and from France. So if you're not a wine geek, but if you're a wine geek, you'll know who this is. If you aren't, I'll introduce this as Elizabeth Gabbai, master of wine, author of this book, I'll put it on the screen, the Rosé book, Understanding the Pink Wine Revolution. Cool book, cause actually Cherenia gave some suggestions about some Rosés in there in the book too. So welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you. Cheers. Thank you.  Rosé is so trendy now. It's so popular. Why Rosé?  And I was asked to write this book and my husband's first reaction was, you know, you don't like Rosé. So why are you writing a book on Rosé? And I said, well, you know, I'll write it. And I started off, and then you become hooked quite addictive, you know, people would be sending in, do you want to try this really weird Rosé I found? And I just discovered that there was just so much more potential to Rosé. And the other thing that was really interesting was I discovered that psychologically, most people think of Rosé by color. Yes. And then you started looking at, well, this Rosé is completely different. Why? And so like Hungarian Rosé, a lot of it is crisp, it's fresh, it's fruity, very, you know, really lively. But a lot of Hungarians put sparkling water in for a fresh. Yes, for fritz. And so of course they don't want to make a complicated Rosé. So you have to understand the market that all these Rosés are drunk in. And yeah, so now I don't think the next edition would not be called understanding the Pink Wine Revolution. I think we've moved on. Okay, yes. And I think another book on Rosé would be quirky, geeky. Oh, the kind of stuff I love. They're really, yeah, exactly. You know what's so funny? I like Rosé as a category, you know, bland, easy drinking Rosé can be kind of boring, but when you have some of this geeky stuff, that's really cool. Which you chose for your glass, yeah. Tell me about what. We finished the bottle of the geeky Rosé, yeah. Rosé off the pole, I love it. Tell me, we're here at a volcanic summit. What makes volcanic Rosés unique? Oh, yeah, okay. So until fairly recently, Rosé was Rosé. Yeah. Nobody wanted varietal character. Nobody wanted terroir character. They just wanted Rosé. And in the past few years, people have realized that you have a Rosé, you do not have tannins to complicate it. You have the freshness and the delicacy that allows a Rosé to be mineral savoury. No, this is the sapidot, isn't it? The sapidot. The sapidot character, the saltiness. And because of the delicacy generally of Rosé, it allows the terroir expression to come really shining through and really vibrate the energy of the wine. I mean, it really is, I find quite exciting. So it's not a sweet, fruity, it's some meaningful Rosé when it's on volcanic soil, is it? No, no, no, like this at the Rosatos. Exciting. It is! It's really volcanic, huh? Why should people that frown upon Rosé? First of all, a lot of people drink it, cash or wine drinkers, because it's delicious. Some more serious, serious people say, no, no, I don't want to trade Rosé. How would you convince them, hey, maybe you should start drinking some Rosés? Well, I've tried various methods from bullying, sort of enforcement, but I actually think for me, it's small tasting, small master classes. I mean, Matt and I were together in Puglia tasting Negrimara Rosé.  And by the end of the week, we were all going, well, it's okay, but the Rosé is really exciting. It is, it is. I actually, but actually, so funny, excuse me, because I was not walking up to you yet. I love it Negrimara Rosato. I've always loved it. I think it's the best wine. It's the signature wine. It should be the signature wine. Just signature wine, huh? But if I told somebody that Negrimara Rosé from Puglia is amazing, most people would look at me and go, you have to get them there and you have to get that glass of wine in front of them and you have to show them. And then my other big pet hate is you can show a sommelier. They'll be convinced. You can show journalists. And then the journalists all go back home and they do a cut and paste. This Rosé is pale and fresh. Very, very few journalists will have the confidence to say, you know, this Rosé is different, gastronomic, interesting. And we're going to go for that. This is my high scored wine today. Is that it? At the show, this Rosato. So this Rosato is 1,000 meters high, south facing Etna, Voidode Cavalier, 2016 vintage, so not the current vintage. Okay. And the current release. This is not some sort of archive Rosé and it is a wine. It's fantastic. Let's get into a place if you've been following up, we're so interested into it and you do get a lot of experience in Hungarian wines. Not only just Rosé, but Hungarian wines. Why do you think this country is so interesting for you? Well, I think, yes. I mean, apart from the sparkling wine, water that they put in, I think cake Frankosh is a stellar variety for Rosé. Natural acidity, crisp, fresh fruity, makes really, really good. I mean, even the Rosé Research Centre in Provence regards it as a top variety. Kadalka, which is good as a red, silky tannins, good for Rosé. It has the climate, it has the natural grape varieties, but I would still say there's only a handful of Hungarian producers that are... More serious about it, yeah. What about besides Rosé, Hungarian wines in general, your overall impressions, because you're here a lot, you do a lot of work here?  I don't know, what sort of mafia protection do you give me if I say what I think? Oh, you can... I'll give you... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll just say protection, yeah, yeah. Hungarian producers are not terribly good at working together. So you can end up with a region that is producing amazing wines and then you think, well, okay, let's move together and let's promote our wines together and it sort of falls apart. So I think a lot of people don't...  And most people will kind of go, name me a producer. So this idea of regional identity and promotion. So Olas Riesling from Balaton Ball, they're doing a lot. Tokai, but the other regions, you kind of feel like guys stop fighting each other, stop being artistic and just sort of identify what you're doing, which is why I think the wines are amazingly well-known, but they give the impression that they're not well-known because they're not very good at... If you're following all my stuff, I'm super upfront and honest about that. That's the hardest, most challenging of all I'm hungry that's keeping the wines from being bad because they're fabulous wines. They're stringable, they're fabulous. They hit the nail around in the head. So you have a new book, you're going to make the second edition of the book. Where else can we find your work? Your website? Yeah, so I occasionally, when I have time, I write my website, ElizabethGave.com, which has musings on things that I'm thinking about. I write a lot for decanto, drinks business, off-license news, website places, the buyer. So largely Anglophone. Okay. And I've just come back from Japan and will be writing about Hungarian wine for the Japanese market. It's the next big thing. Oh, interesting. So I will put the link in the description box of Rosé Understanding the Pink Revolution. Check it out, especially because Rosé's so popular. Get into it, understand it. I have to say one thing honestly to Elizabeth, we meet lots of masters, wine's traveling the whole time. One of the most gracious with her time. One of the most humble. Somebody that doesn't look down upon us common people. So thank you so much for being on the show. I really, really appreciate it. It was wonderful to see you. And I guess check it out, guys. If you liked this video, check out the book, check out her website and please subscribe to our YouTube channel, Exotic Wine Travel. I will see you at the next episode.


What did you tweak mechanically? I was kind of falling over the plate a little bit and I was, you know, missing fastballs and, you know, rolling over on off-speed, so it's more of my posture and, you know, getting that right and, you know, finally it's starting to click in Boston and, you know, it's starting to roll now, so it's a good, it's finally getting good to get back, so. You hit an absolute blast today. Is that reassurance to you that the power is still there post-injury? Yeah, and that, it's a good sign for me that, you know, my legs are finally back and, you know, that's something I was battling through when I first came back off the DL and, you know, to finally get, you know, the home run out of the way, it's been a long time. It's been like six or seven weeks, so I felt good and, you know, we still got another game to go, but it's, you know, it was a good start. Still feeling healthy?  Luke, thanks for the time. You're welcome.