Good day, May 40 here. So I like to start my day with Uplifting material Something inspiring Something that helps me to overcome my my habitual tendencies towards selfishness. So I Figured I should listen to this this 12-step talk on building relationships and intimacy and in the 12-step talk. I Was hearing stuff about containment This is a healthy representation. What is containment about the relationship between divine masculine and divine feminine? This masculine clamshell is creating a safe nourishing space in which the female can exist or occur It enables a woman to be soft open receptive and to grow if you imagine removing that masculine shell the female immediately Contracts goes rigid and into a state of defense. I mean, that's great.  Remove you from the call. It's just like they automatically remove me from the call if no one else comes in there And here I am trying to produce a high quality show and I'm getting those those bloody dings So, yeah, I was listening to a recovery talk this morning about emotional intimacy by Danielle de Bray it was at a sex and love addicts anonymous group and Seemed like healthy stuff to start my day So she's talking about It's a lot of confidence It's using I language. Yeah What misses what the gap is that's missing is being able to go in and really Be what I call despicably honest. Yeah Despicably honest now see things to yourself that you don't want to hear that you do and actually saying they're not allowed to somebody else Takes a lot of confidence and what that process does is starts creating an internal container You know what you're feeling. I wanted to know You know what you're feeling right now Hi, I don't know what I'm feeling. I'd like to connect with you. Why don't you tell me what I'm feeling? Oh, how dare you? And it's a set of her failure So I want to create that kind of container Is it we don't have a good listener if we don't have a good listener I want to go where love is like I'm hoping you'll show me I Want to see where love is, you know, I know you'll take me I want to know about creating this this container of love. So so YouTube directed me to Teal swan who is quite striking a coping mechanism instead of a natural state in and of itself and Whenever there is that lack of masculine container the female actually has to cope by becoming masculine herself Right. So I'm thinking wow I need to create more of a of a container so that the woman doesn't have to become masculine herself Now when she does this this has a negative impact not just on her mind on her emotions, but also on her physical body Okay, so I need to be the man creating a container. So I Figured I need to learn more about creating a container. So I put in the name of one of my favorite YouTube Therapist Katie Morton and and I said what does Katie Morton have to say about containment and I went there and I see I see Katie Morton needs a break Her and I shared a lot of random things like oh Wow, I wasn't I Wasn't expecting this. I mean what the heck's going on with Katie Morton. She always just seems so so bubbly and happy. I mean, huh Huh Yeah, it's like we're gonna take a shower No, and I think that's it. I've talked about a lot that you can't force anyone into treatment because you can't make them get better I just want to take the time to address all the hate and Confusion really that Shane and I ever see for our video together that came out last Thursday I think it's interesting that she herself says No, I would never intentionally create contact that would ever hurt or upset anyone again my goal That's nonsense like when you hear people Talk about, you know, they never do anything to hurt anyone We deliberately do things to hurt the people that we love the most all the time All right, so Well is to educate and empower you and I was honestly shocked that people were upset about the video that I did with Shane because If you don't know how this was set up Shane called me and asked if he come over and just film me telling him how I would go about diagnosing a sociopath Come on, I don't need Sketchy YouTube therapist And I'm still a male welcome to 2021 and today I'm kicking it off by talking about yeah now Now this seems like reliable quality Psychological content good old uncle Herman YouTube therapists one particular YouTube therapist called Katie Morton Now he might have seen her in Shane Dawson's documentary series Or on her eponymous YouTube channel or even the videos that are starting to come out about her slightly dodgy activities on the platform Now when a therapist starts making YouTube videos, they can reach the right people and be helpful and I have nothing against therapy I think it's an amazing thing But there's something about Katie that has never sat right with me and a few of the ways in which she's been conducting herself online Recently have raised some issues with myself and fellow YouTube viewers alike So today let's have a look into the dark truth behind Katie Morton and see why and how she's suddenly being turned On online. So Katie Morton is a licensed therapist according to her website She runs her own private practice and aims to share mental health information across social media and de-stigmatize Okay, so this morning I want to get started on a positive note I want to learn about creating a container for love. I mean this is how my day started and very quickly however When I wanted to look what Katie Morton had to say I see her crying and breaking down in a video and then I see How she's sharing her depression story for the first time it's not Not what I was was looking for so so I End up with Teal Swan who I've never heard before but she's got over a million subscribers Essentially this causes a flippin polarity and that flippin polarity is not only a healthy for her It's to blame for so many of the relationship issues that are happening between men and women today With that image in mind now Let's look deeper at containment to contain a woman in this context is to actively not passively create a safe space of Well-being for her. Okay, that that seems healthy. I mean, okay, it's like all right here. I go I've got I've got an online guru is gonna teach me about how to create a Containment, right? I want a love container All right. I mean when I was younger I wanted other things with regard to love but now I'm 55 and I want a love container and And so I start looking for a little more information about Teal Swan and I find out that she's the catalyst of suicide That's not really what I was looking for So we've got this Gizmodo reporter Jennings Brown He he was looking for help on YouTube and YouTube sent him to Teal Swan. All right, the guru of suicide And he does a six-part series called there are hundreds of videos and posts like this where people are saying they want to kill Themselves and I see the value of having this kind of immediate support But it's still jarring to me the amount of post about suicide is staggering and I'm far from the only person who has noticed this There were a lot of posts of people saying that they were feeling suicidal This is Catherine Breen. She used to be a member of the Teal Tribe It concerns me a lot because of things that Teal has said about suicide and things that she said about Past clients who have like well specifically one past client who has committed suicide this one past client who committed suicide That's Leslie. You heard Joyce the belly dancer talking about her at the beginning of the episode She's come up in the Teal Tribe before and on critics blogs I found one Facebook post from August 29th, 2016 It says I know that a lot of you might not like this post and believe me. I love Teal so much She has helped me a lot, but why do Teal haters keep saying she led a woman to suicide? Can anybody please tell me the whole story? It ends with parentheses. This post is not against Teal and parentheses followed by two hard emojis Okay, so I'm trying to get my day after a positive uplifting start and and and the first first YouTube guru I turned to Katie Morton is You know really going through some pretty severe mental health issues and then the next one I turned to I think oh Oh Teal she sounds swell and then I learned that she is the guru of suicide Not exactly Kind of Teal influenced Leslie's decision to end her life Like just about everything else with Teal It doesn't take me long to find a video of her addressing this specifically this video is from back in 2013 the year after Leslie died I actually Interestingly enough lost my first client to suicide this last year That would set me back like if like I lost my first Alexander Technique client or any client to suicide Yeah, that'd be tough and this was a woman who was absolutely miserable This clip of Teal at a workshop in Santa Fe this short clip This is what Teal Swann's critics point to as the most damning evidence that she pushes people to kill themselves So we had that very serious sit-down talk where we had to say alright We're either committing or not committing to life because every time I gave her a suggestion She'd stop in two days doing the suggestion. So then we have to ask the question. Do we really want this to work? And what's interesting is when she asked herself that question the answer was no I'm done So there's nothing that any healer could ever do for that type of vibration Which is totally fine from source energy.  Interestingly enough it took her about two days before she was reincarnated again Teal uses a lot of spiritual jargon that I don't get But saying that there's nothing a healer could ever do okay I was starting to feel down about all this and Start feeling a little skeptical about Teal Swann but knowing that her first client committed suicide But then was reincarnated two days later. I'm feeling so much better now Right, so like tell me more about the container of love Right. I maybe I just don't have to sweat the the whole Suicide catalyst for that type of vibration. What does she mean by that? Oh? Her messaging on mental health it in a word reckless There are so many people who love Teal Swann, but she also has a lot of critics like Levan Slavin She was never a follower of Teals But she says that she was in a spiritually abusive relationship with a guru and it reminds her of how Teal interacts with her followers So Levan writes blog posts warning people about Teal. She has repeatedly said that death is a reset button For a life that's become too miserable and then it may be the best option for some people She's said that death feels incredible That it's a gift you'd give yourself if you knew how wonderful it was Jessica's shop is another one of Teal's critics Jessica used to be a spiritual leader herself But now she tries to expose what she sees as spiritual abuse Jessica warned me about getting too close to Teal in her inner circle Jessica and Levan have been attacked online for speaking out against Teal Some of Teal's critics were nervous about talking to me because of the potential backlash Some didn't want to meet in person. They preferred phone or email After hearing about all their fears and allegations. I wanted to talk to the spiritual catalyst herself It's the godwitson live news alert now We made a video covering Millennial Woters today. I get a hold of Teal And afterwards they come back from the dead with the new grift Millennial Woters a guide to culture This is what he's planning on doing right now with his time. He's going to give you western man a guide to life But before he fully embarks on the new grift, he wants Okay, so it's it's perhaps Millennial Woters a better guru. Will will he teach us more About how to approach life. It's the godwitson live news alert now We made a video covering Millennial Woters law yesterday and then Sargon afterwards They've come back from the dead with a new grift Millennial Woters a guide to culture This is what he's planning on doing right now with his time.  I think he actually does use the word enemy of the people. So we're going to get into this I'm not going to press see this with anything beyond. This is the first time that Millennial Woters has gone on record with a public disavowal of the accusers And the women that have come to light So he's going to dismantle their truth in what seems as though it's a half hour video It was uploaded after my video. So I mean, I'm perplexed.  I need to actually talk To my audience and the people that are paying me money and say wow I'm a free man So let's get into that. This is insanity. Just to begin with. Let's go Hello at the end of april 2020 I was accused of sexually assaulting a young woman This allegation triggered a set of other rumors and accusations including ones dug up from the past I don't think things trigger. I don't think it was trigger. I think all of this stuff was in the ether anyway It was a cacophony of noise surrounding woes forever But he tried to make it seem as though nothing nothing was going on that he wasn't a scottish neat who was a rent boy We're not even going to get into the law because that's in the previous video, but this is not A sexual allegation comes out of the woodwork then suddenly everyone else starts piling on and making up stuff No, there was a consistent pattern of behavior long before this woman came along With credible evidence that Millennial Woters was what he's been accused of. Let's go. Let's go Let me first set your mind to rest on the most important matter The allegation is false So, okay, so if this is an innocent man and the allegation is false, right Surely the video should end here at 28 seconds in Surely all he needs to say is i'm an innocent man get fucked. Goodbye Goodbye accusers but There is a word salad that proceeds to follow this a world a word salad counter I can only describe this as as for the next 25 and a half minutes he He confusingly and bafflingly seems to simultaneously corroborate this woman's story and the other stories that are around him And say that he's still in that he's still clean anyway, and he's the victim of a me too and it's left Okay, this is a god one god Winston video from december 4 2020, but he's touching on something important here that It's hard to take people seriously until they take Take responsibility when when they they admit bad behavior when they don't just Seem to learn nothing from their their travails So like a richard spencer doesn't seem to have learned much from all his travails He hasn't seemed to have taken much responsibility for his behavior and so too with with millennial woes So this is just a preamble to more of what I want to talk about But I think god Winston is on something important here just sort of doing this and There are enemies he makes he makes his enemies your enemies which is evil and That's a loss quite frankly as to why if he were innocent completely And everything was baseless And a falsehood why he wouldn't just end the video at 28 seconds, but you're gonna hear why So don't harass anyone I'm not guilty of any criminal wrongdoing. You are your guilty guilty your honor Has a history of look you can behave like a pig and not be guilty of any criminal wrongdoing I have I've behaved like a pig at times towards men and women and Not guilty of criminal wrongdoing, but you can also be quite the bastard as as I have been through Let me get specific just through through being grossed through being Imported through being unnecessarily confrontational through Through being inappropriate through being needlessly shocking through being presumptive needlessly aggressive Through I remember there's one woman that I hit on really hard in the kitchen at a shabbat dinner and apparently she was still crying about it years later and I think I played a significant role in her unhappiness about that event Other times like I showed up on a woman's doorstep who I thought I was had I was either sleeping with or I thought I was going to and I'm thinking of two women that appreciate in particular said hey, you just can't show up on my doorstep You know, I can't just like show up at 9 p.m. At night for a booty call even if it's shabbat so Let's get uh, let's get a little bit low barry. Um, hello pafa. Hello hapa. Hello woodlander. Hello magic tech Or whatever in order to make it look like it's from this war So the photo is from this one It's not I mean that's things that resemble it good life and things that are tangentially connected to it Get memory hold or banned so that they won't offend people so that people won't be shocked and troubled by the sight of The letter z because I might remind them of the russian army Now the alternative explanation is it's not because of people's emotions. It's not their emotional reaction to seeing the letters It's the fact that it is associated with the russian militant.  We're obviously a beautiful girl and all that but just not my type Now the other one that I did fancy was the german actress imagine amic If he used the letter z I mean i'm sorry to The scenes have heard but they are expected to be this fragile And so they're just acting in accordance with that expectation I think that's the more likely explanation here So, yeah, we'll we'll move on now.  Thank you very much for that very generous superchant Bloody hell That's uh, that's by far the the largest one so far. So thank you very much Um, okay. Well, yes, everyone can be everyone can thank magitek for that. Um Um So, okay, the I'll do magitek's one first He says I couldn't think of a real question. So here it is Who was the hottest twin peaks female character and why was it audrey horn? Well, um, I have Come on God, that's a bloody big question turned on Because I don't know and I can only speak for myself The thing that started me was I I moved into a multicultural environment To say it very briefly that that's what happened. And so I went from rural scotland Uh, well, then I'd lived in edinburgh and and then I'd lived in a northern town Which again was very white. It was all my life up to the age of 19. I'd lived in very white areas. Then I moved to a very multicultural part of london And I just clocked immediately but this just doesn't work It just simply does not work. Uh, there's there's suspicion. There's paranoia. There's a low level tension everywhere And then it was also the same within the student community the halls of residence where I was living It was also very multicultural loads of japanese loads of chinese students And no one talked to each other no one it was all just So this this whole thing about people mixing was just just a myth and uh so We tend to see the world as we are not as the world is so i'm sure that plenty of those Multicultural students were mixing and were talking to each other But millennial woes who has mild tendencies towards isolation To withdrawing from other people and certain social awkwardness He doesn't mix Now true the less you have in common with other people the more difficult it is to mix and communicate with them I don't know if it's different now. I mean that was 20 years ago Maybe it's different now. Maybe there is more mixing. I'm not sure certainly in daily life I mean you've got the whole cliche of the millennial And now the gen z Everyone's got a girlfriend of a different race. Everyone's got a mixed race friend and Friend circle of all different races I mean that that's what you see in the advertising I dare say that the reality is actually a lot starker and a lot more old-fashioned than that But also so yeah, the reason I said all that is For me it was just effortless. It was just obvious and and that my prior beliefs were mistaken So people would rather look outside themselves than inside themselves for their troubles. So I think it it's fair to say that millennial woes is problems and inability to You know hold down what's traditionally regarded as a manly role you work for a living All right, and you navigate your way in society And anything is primarily because of multiculturalism. I think it's primarily because of britain's economic and immigration policies I mean my primary problems are caused by me Richard Spencer's primary problems are caused by Richard Spencer millennial woes is primary problems are caused by himself But it's so much easier to say. Oh the problems with society problems with our immigration policy problems with multiculturalism Okay, multiculturalism and diversity is no excuse not to get out there into the world and to Or down a job to pay your taxes to make friends to gather with friends To form community and to get along with people to the best you can and uh, and I did try It wasn't just like I arrived there and then the next day I Had become a bigot And you know even after I concluded that it wasn't working. I still So we'd rather when people in general rather look at themselves and say, hey, maybe there's something Off about me. Maybe I need to recalibrate. Maybe I need to approach other people differently Or would people rather say oh problems with others and Our nation's immigration policy Right, many people are struggling.  I mean, I'm still nice to them. I mean, it's not like I was You know It's not like I got a swastika tattoo or something like that Obviously not. Um, I was still perfectly nice to them and I did try to make friends But it just I just realized I don't have anything in common with them.  Are you holding down a job? Are you taking on masculine responsibilities Now conversation is a chore And of course, there's no feeling of commonality. Uh, so it's just nonsense. It's it's just onerous and unrewarding so I mean, I tried it but I think it was about three or four months in when I just realized When I sort of conclude it this just isn't going to work But it wasn't an intellectual battle for me and it wasn't difficult for me to it was difficult for me to give up On the idea of making friends because I wanted friends But it wasn't difficult for me to realize oh bloody hell multiculturalism does not work That wasn't so much easy to say multiculturalism does not work rather than I don't work My approach to living doesn't work Let me be honest here. My natural instinct is to be much more isolated than is good for me right my natural instinct is to back away from community and from other people and to Try to restrict all my interactions with other people just strictly on my terms Right these natural instincts of mine somehow hardwired in me as I would assume a response to the chaos of my early childhood I reacted to that by becoming overly rigid in my reactions with other people and trying to make Most of my interactions with others strictly on my own terms Which does lead to isolation and misery. So The way I'm wired does not work to my benefit if I just follow my natural inclinations I have to do all sorts of things to push myself To get out there be more social because naturally I'm isolated. So It's much harder to admit. I'm broken Rather than to say oh society's broken, but I am I am broken I'm a broken person whose natural tendency is towards isolation, which is not healthy difficult it was very obvious to me and You know, my only concern was am I wrong about this? If I miss something It doesn't sound like he's really that concerned about whether he's wrong about it and whether he's missed something And whether that's something that he's missed is him But yeah, that was the first thing that and then thereafter it was other one issue at a time I just sort of fell out of agreement with the mainstream on one issue after another Um, so it wasn't difficult for me So what I'm actually hearing is the mainstream fell out with millennial worse Like most people didn't want to have much to do with him And so he was feeling in the regular world, right?  So when you're feeling at real life, you can say oh the problem's me I need to take a very painful self-examination and I need to admit that I've got a problem and I need to Ask for help and I need to become willing to take direction from other people Even though it goes against all my inclinations, right? That's a very painful thing to do Does it sound like it's the path that uh, woezy is taken? I don't think there was ever because I always just thought well Am I right or wrong? And I think this is really the crux of the matter. You know, there are people who Just think well, is this true or false? Is this right or wrong? And then there are other people who think of the social cost of believing it Again, there's not much introspection here about what is his own role? What's his own programming? What are his own influences? How has his own record of failure in interacting with other people? predisposed him towards an anti-social worldview predisposed him towards a an ideology which will allow allow him to isolate and to loathe larger society just as he seems to perceive larger society Loads him what am I expected to believe and that will override everything else? They'll even find ways to believe things that they Know are false So that they can retain the favor of their peers Yes, yes, the happiest marriages are people who believe false things about their spouses All right, that's what goes on the happiest marriages people have unrealistic perspectives on their spouse They put their spouse on a pedestal when people start to get a realistic view of their spouse All right, the marriage is is in trouble right so there are all sorts of non true beliefs that service And if you want to take a completely secular perspective The belief in the transcendent belief in God belief in religion From a an atheist perspective is a false belief that serves a lot of people so that they can retain social acceptability And so for them There's never been a group There's never been a society where you don't need to make a set to false things to Successfully get along That's the way human nature has always been It is very difficult to change their views Unless the the mainstream changes its views and then it's extremely easy for them to just snap into line just get back into a synchronicity with the mainstream But to defy the mainstream Is extraordinarily difficult for those people and I think we're talking about a good Yeah, to defy the mainstream to defy the people around you to defy your culture Right to defy most people. Yeah, that does not tend to create happiness It does not tend to create a life that works the big percentage of the pot more than 50 percent of people For them, it's extremely difficult. I mean, I think if you were stuck in a desert island with one of them Yeah, you could probably talk sense into them Yeah, but once you were rescued or once you got all yeah, maybe millennial woes could talk sense into them Right Does he have any mentors does he have any is there anybody that millennial woes respects? Because if there's anyone that he he respects Then he should look to them for some help should look to them for some guidance Seems I really like your video on the multimoral society. Do you stand by that or or do you have any further thoughts to add? Well, the multimoral society was one of my very first videos I think it was in the first like five that I actually filmed if I recall correctly So it was obviously something that was on my mind that was obviously a priority for me to talk about that and the the crux of it was that and it sounds pretty Pretty bad saying it now, but the crux of it was that it's not right to have the same expectations of different classes of people And therefore the rules should be in in a sense different for different classes of people Now I did not mean there shouldn't be a quality before the law because I think equality before the law is actually a good idea Uh, mostly, I mean, maybe that's a symptom of me being born of a democratic age and despite myself, you know But nonetheless, I think it is good that the law is as fair and objective impartial as possible Well, you know because it's the pursuit of truth after all the pursuit of justice So I didn't mean that but the what I meant was that there should be leeway in the sense that And I was really blessings to Elliott Blatt. How's it going, right? Uh, blessing shabbat shalom So I didn't expect uh, didn't expect a stream fluke So, uh, uh, look, uh, do you think that you uh, that you sort of Kind of punish yourself unnecessarily Oh, sure I'm sure there are plenty of times I punish myself unnecessarily and but I I'm not sure that it exceeds the number of times that I I uh, let myself off the hook unnecessarily So you feel like there's a score, right? Well, I want to be in reality and so There's certainly a time to forgive yourself And then I think there's a time to let yourself know.  In fact, I'm happier because I can admit the truth and I don't hate myself for being flawed Okay, fair enough. I mean um Now is this something that you only do when you're on stream and you don't really carry around with you or Uh, it's just something you carry around with you all the time like this sort of running dialogue that oh, I've been a bad boy I need to flog myself It's all it's all contextual if I'm going to critique millennial woes And he says something that I can resonate with and something that I've struggled with Then rather than coming from the perspective, I'm better than you, you know, I'm high and haughty it's like, oh, I've struggled with the exact same thing and This is what I realized about my life. So a lot of my critiques begin with Okay, I've struggled with this. I've failed in this area Uh, you know, this is this is my experience and then this is what I'm thinking or this is what I've read This is what I've heard But I think if you're going to talk about yourself publicly It should probably be along the lines of things that are shameful, right? Usually there's not much point in boasting about yourself publicly Yeah, that's true for sure. But uh, but then but uh Millennial woes seems to just kind of flog himself all the time. He's uh, I don't see him as somebody that's uh You know aggrandizing himself in any way. I think he's the opposite. He's sort of Uh, just lamenting his circumstances in a way that's kind of Uh, you know, it's a little bit unbecoming I I just find him out of touch with reality. So His response to the sex pest allegations Or a perfect illustration that there's absolutely nothing to them Uh, but yeah, maybe I've you know been being a bit inappropriate. So He he just he's obviously miserable And so he he admits his misery and he's relatable on that hand, but he doesn't Doesn't seem to Take much responsibility for his own role in his own misery And he's very quick to say, you know, my misery is caused by our multicultural society Rather than there are plenty of people out there in our multicultural society who are connecting and creating a good life It's it's not just our immigration policy. That's the the primary cause of my problems So I it it rings false to me like there are parts of it that ring true, but a lot of it just rings rings false to me Hmm, okay So it's like it's like Joe Queenen. His father was an alcoholic You apparently treated him really badly and then his father started working the 12 steps But it didn't really work them. He'd just like mumble something to Joe and his brother You know, if I've ever been unkind to you, you know, please forgive me. No, that's that's not making amends Yeah, making amends as you you've got to get specific and so So I don't I don't hear woesie getting specific about You know where he needs to make amends for other people and wear his own selfishness His own unnecessary fear his own inconsideration His own dishonesty has caused his problems instead.  I'm miserable But he doesn't seem to come to terms with the reality of what's happened And I don't think people should hate themselves or blame themselves Like millennial woes did not ask to be miserable So he shouldn't berate himself or down himself for being miserable But there's no recovery until you can start to come to terms With the exact things that you have done to to create your misery That's true. That's all true um I I guess all right Mully was sort of created a persona around being miserable and lugubrious, right? Yes And and this is sort of in the same way that Ralph has created a personality of being sort of bombastic and crude, you know, and in a weird way their livelihoods are are tied to Maintaining this persona their incentivize to keep going and then disincentivize to sort of unwind these narratives that they tell themselves so, um I don't know. Yeah, it's interesting to observe But I think they've ingrained patterns so deeply. I'm not sure that the real rational incentives Leading them to the state that they're at. I think they're more stuck in their own patterns That they can't get out of them Racial incentives would would say to them you got to get off the internet and correct and build a life but they They they're their internet life has so contaminated their real life And the way they conduct themselves in their real life that It's going to be incredibly painful for a while even if they quit the internet because Everything that you say and do online it feeds back and recreates you in the real world and so It's a very long path ahead Yeah, so Um But I noticed okay, let's talk about you a little bit Um like I noticed that you have a way of All of your misdeeds are really seem really foremost in your mind now. This may just be Something that you display when you're online, right and that you you you're sort of setting an example by Confronting your own failings publicly right and yes Now but um Which is fine. I'm not grisa.  There's no sort of calm neutrality of Of neither being pompous nor being uh Punished right. There's just sort of uh, this was the past. This is what I've done. I've accepted it Is there a path towards sort of neutrality and acceptance? And then progression Oh, I'm sure there is and and I am profoundly shaped by you know, my father and And yeah, my my religious upbringing And uh, I'm not just the you know, mr. Calm and acceptance like calm and acceptance takes takes work for me You know, I've known other people that grew up in very strict religious Households that grew up in a very strict religious Upbringing and when they soon as they got out of the house, they sort of rebelled in a very strong profound way Uh in a way that sort of contradicted all of this their religious indoctrination and they sort of made mistakes on the other end They sort of screwed up their lives becoming by becoming Uh really sort of just libertines of you know sex drugs rock and roll and so forth Yeah, that's that's me. I mean without the drugs. I mean, I just became incredibly reactive and rebellious yeah, and And then they then you know, they sort of take that to the extreme and it's sort of like The discipline that they've accrued Through their strict upbringing Only served them it only served because they were sort of More cunning and determined in their rebellion. Do you know what I mean? Like did the skills that they learned as With their structure they applied to becoming Yeah, yeah, that's a there's a new movie out called axe It's set in 1979 in texas and a group of people rent a home in in a remote area to shoot a porn movie And the the lead character a woman starts the movies like snorting cocaine Looking in the mirror and say, you know, I deserve better And so they they rent this movie and they shoot this this porn movie In this remote house, but the older couple nearby Who they're renting the the house from don't don't know what's going on And when they do know what's going on the movie turned Oh, look you dropped out I I'm back. So I'm here. Oh, so okay. Sorry. All right. You're back. All right. Yeah. So so anyway, uh This this one woman she has to you know fight through a horror show where everyone else in the porn movies getting getting wiped out but Her father's a preacher and she she uses her discipline and her I deserve better to to navigate her way through this mass murdering scene To make it out alive. So it's it's actually a pretty good movie. It's a it's called x Uh, not the story of x Not the history of x Which I also hear is just completely superlative as well. It's an erotic slasher film Yeah, interesting, but it's actually fairly It's well done It's one of the best erotic slasher films I've ever seen Yeah, so the list is long uh, all right, well I know that was just sort of I guess the point is like Like uh, Jewish life Seems to be sort of both more accepting and more strict in certain ways, right? Yes. It has different boundaries Yes, and sort of allows more Within a certain radius Yes, the radio And therefore It doesn't create the reactions That go outside the radius the radius So you get sort of a wider scope That's clustered around the center. Do you know what I'm saying? Well, there's no Generic Jewish life. There are so many different parts of Jewish life. And so I've navigated to to those parts of the best fit for me Um I'd be a terrible fit for many different Jewish communities They would hate me and I would hate them Now have you found home in your church community? Yeah, no, I found a home in hotherdack studiism Yeah, and and I'm happy here. Now. I'm sure there are some orthodox synagogues where I wouldn't be a great fit either but uh overwhelmingly I feel very comfortable among orthodox Jews and then orthodox synagogues and Orthodox events for one thing. I don't know how to dance with women So at orthodox events, you know blokes only dance with blokes and I'm very comfortable dancing with other blokes I Yes, I'm sure that's a joyous experience, you know dressed a three-piece suit and Staying alive Yeah, yeah, do you do you feel more comfortable dancing with blokes or with sheilas? Neither I'm not a dancer at all. You're not a dancer. Oh, no, bro Hey, are you at home in your body, Elliot? I'm not my body sucks, Luke.  I'm trying to keep my body together and every day it's sort of like I feel myself being a little bit older and just not The decline of my physical fitness has been a real Real bummer in my life, Luke Are you being a good friend to yourself, Elliot? Trying to be bro, but So what does that mean? How are you a good friend to yourself? um How am I a good friend to myself? I'm a good friend to myself because I I listen to what I feel I need And I allow myself what I feel I need and I don't sort of Torment myself for needing what I need So it's not like a serial killer Really? You give yourself what you need. You don't torment yourself. You just if you need it you need it No, no, if I need to sleep in I sleep in You know, if I need to eat a proper meal, it's expensive. I'll buy the ingredients. You know, I'll make a proper meal. I'm really um I I don't I don't starve myself and I don't punish myself, but I'm trying to walk the line between asceticism and Epicurianism I'm trying to find the comfortable balance The the neutral I'm my goal is to be neutral And even in a piece and um So You know, I I try to find balance and keep balance So I don't know if that makes any sense. Sure. Sure. Uh, so Did you see my uh video yesterday morning? I think checking out of the national project Uh, is that like a five three in the morning? Yes. Yes I did, but I was so groggy. I didn't I don't retain much. You were wearing, uh, the sticks Yes, I went I went on sticks and hammer Yeah, but I was sort of semi conscious. I don't remember the content Okay, so the content was that a lot of people don't care About the news don't care what's happening in in the wider nation or the wider world And the more happy you are the more engaged you are with the outside world And the more unhappy you are the less likely you are to care about what happens in the outside world And so I got a got an email from from an acquaintance and he says, you know, you're stream here very close to home I I've been feeling like nobody at my Community that we we just joined. I'm paranoid that I'm being judged I I should go see a therapist about my anxiety and depression Uh, but I need people other than a therapist to connect with and from from your videos You sound like someone who understands how I feel more than most people Uh, when we spoke you said I sounded depressed. Nobody ever tells me that so straightforwardly, but I am so Yeah, so it's just that that stream seems to really hit home with some members of the audience Uh, is it still up online? I'll go back and watch it again. Uh, and I'll try I'll retain this time um Hmm Because I you know you say when you're about your your your happiness is sort of dependent on The quality of your relationships with other people from that mistake. Yes, right. Yes, and my happiness in contrast is How I feel within my own body and my own head space so I I don't I don't Relationships are far secondary to me And I'm not saying that this is a good thing or a bad thing. I'm just telling it as I perceive it and that is a contrast between You and me and um I I wonder if Okay, I see relationships human relationships. I know this is gonna sound similar, but I see them as sort of a past time I don't see them as um The assets of life Yeah, I see them as sort of a a peak experience, you know a source of Amusement and enjoyment, but they're at the end of the day. They're not really there. They're very ephemeral because I'm changing the other people are changing and we're sort of You know, we meet at a rest stop and we're all thrown together for A few moments or a few days or a few weeks, three years but then, you know, sort of time marches on and then we're sort of We go our separate ways, you know, and uh Make, you know, and this is very well to be, you know A pathology of my part, but I I uh It's very hard for me to invest in things that I know are very temporary Is that make sense? Yeah And I I I'm not saying this is the correct way to live. I'm just saying These this is how I see the world right and um Other people most people don't see the world the same way and I'm fully cognizant of that uh, but then they're sort of um And they seem to be blindsided by life when people die and people move away and um Well, they form attachments and then therefore they feel lost.  I don't like the fact that this is how we see the world, but this is in fact How I do you see the world? um Part two part two is It's people that can be alone Are the only people that can be of service to other people In their times of need You know, I mean like There's a certain independence and and uh objectivity That comes from the ability to be alone And you've built walls of fortress deep and mighty that none may penetrate You have no need of friendship because friendship causes pain. It's laughter and it's loving. I just stay What is that? Is that a song or is that the bible? So I'm in a garf uncle. Don't talk of love I've heard the word before I went to stir the slumber of feelings that have died if I never loved. I never would have cried Yes Hiding in my room safe within my womb. I touch no one and no one touches me Yeah Well, you know tonight I was going to go down to the beach This is Friday night and there's usually a big gathering as a beach swimming and so forth and I just wasn't into it. I didn't feel like it today. So I just stayed home now partially because I'm feeling a little bit off physically, but um It's it would just be another sort of chaotic group setting where There's just lots of conversations. I don't really want to be in that happened and I sort of I evaluated My expectations and I said well, I just don't need that tonight. So I'm just going to stay home and listen to Luke Excellent, you're being a good friend to yourself. That's what I'm here Yeah, but it's sort of sad in a way like uh, it's sort of like this, uh You're in a prison of your own Of your own ingrained habits that have become so perpetual you don't see them Yes, it's like well, no, it's me with internet culture like I get to choose whatever experience I want at every given moment, right? And I can't endure anything that's not feeding me the steady diet of dopamine that I'm accustomed to And going out to this in-person iRL gathering Creates moments of of non Dopamine I don't need that in my life, right?   It's been thoroughly edited. It's like why make a salad when you can keep process food around the house That may be years old, but it still works Why go shopping when you can have amazon bring it to your door, you know I went for a walk the other day And I saw all these people that I knew and they're all like gathered together and laughing and have a great time And I just couldn't go over there.  I just wasn't ready to engage Yeah, that's me. That's me. That's me like more often than I'm of uh willing to admit like, uh So what are you doing for Passover?  We should all gather. We should all like their rent a mountain cabin Yeah Alone, hopefully at different peaks I have a convention Do you think you'd enjoy hanging out with uh people like Leponius and Half Galicia and I don't know It's 50-50. I mean, it's very likely that we can just cage it like literally viscerally hate one another. You know Like why risk it, Luke? We got a good thing going, you know No, there's something to that because there are a lot of people who I've had good relations with But then I got a little closer to them and things just blew up So, you know at a nice remove, you know, everything was great. And then I got too close and things blew up We want the filtered distilled essence of people At arm's length What the up in your grill Exactly, you know Yeah, I know so this is yeah, I think about that often like Who knows they could get a fist bike probably now, you know Bernardo and Leponia's right, right That would be interesting content Anyway, bro, that's all I got. That's all I got. Okay. Blessings. All right. Cheers. Okay. So I'm reading this uh rereading this terrific book the extended mind And so so much only happens when we're face-to-face with people like what we're doing now is great and has its place But it's really eye contact that opens the gate between the The brains and the hearts and the minds of two individuals and then information flows So the easiest way to get new information to learn new things to broaden your your worldview is to have Contact close contact human to human eye contact with with someone else Right, you know that the eyes are like a gate And and you don't get the same same degree of intimacy when you're not looking in someone else's eyes, right? We want we want social exchanges In which what we're saying are directly responsive to what the other person has said and then When this contingent communication is absent We we don't learn nearly as well. So we learned best from other live human beings Right and we learned best from teaching other people so IQs 2.3 points higher for first born children and researchers think that the first born child's higher IQ stems from Family life older siblings engage in teaching younger ones So engaging students in tutoring teaching other people doing a youtube show where you try to teach things That helps you to learn Even if you just like Speak to a camera And and try to teach something that you've been reading, right? So when I do this show, there's a tremendous physiological arousal It can be absolutely exhausting, but it's very rarely makes me sleep Right. I'm I'm fully alert and alive and pulsating And uh, it's it's incredibly challenging But you You are then pushed to learn things that you wouldn't learn otherwise if you weren't going to be all exposed on on a show so Explaining something on camera. Even if no one's watching That really helps you before improve your performance improve what you're learning and It generates a persuasive feeling of social presence the the idea that someone is watching and listening So explaining yourself why you're being recorded It measurably increases your physiological arousal. You have more memory. You have more attention more alertness The extended mind we do much of our best thinking socially At times other times we do our best thinking sitting down other times We will do our best thinking going for a walk going for a walk alone being with others being alone behind four walls Right. There's a time and a place for all of that Speaking of our greatest thinking here's more from millennial ones by a video by Davis arini when he made the point that upper class couples can do things that We destroy a working class family And I don't really well Adam Smith made that point in the wealth of nations that all sorts of vices that the middle class and upper classes can engage in Would would be fatal for the lower classes Because the lower classes generally speaking aren't as disciplined aren't as intelligent and don't have as many resources And family and friends and community and schools to fall back on for help You know exactly why that is But it makes sense to me just intuitively it makes sense that Wealthy family are not going to have the same pressure So when I collapsed into chronic fatigue syndrome I had my family that I collapsed onto and I had friends who were also there for me And then my family sent me to doctors and I was able to reach out and place a lot of singles ads and met a lot of women And one girlfriend led me to a doctor who changed my life for the good 1993 putting me on the medication Nardil was on them. They're not going to have the same sense of precariousness As a working class family or indeed a middle class family So they can withstand more but I mean obviously that that's a very There's a huge gray area here because it's not that simple Because in other ways a working class family will be more robust But I think that the point that arena was making was so upper class people Can do things like have a drug habit and yet it doesn't destroy them now as I say these words obviously We will all know or know off A wealthy person who got destroyed by drugs Right jack Nicholson seems to be a bloke who can engage in drugs and all sorts of vices and it hasn't apparently destroyed him They've done tremendous damage to other people around him. It happens um But at the same time there does seem to be a correlation between wealthy people having a drug habit and yet they have a career And it does this drug habit is just something they do on the side and it doesn't matter They've got it under control whereas a stereotypically speaking a working class person is far more likely to If they get into drugs it might well dominate their life. It might well fuck them up um now I don't have anything particularly invested in this being true Right, my some people might think that I I I'm a snob and I enjoy this idea that superiority and inferior Okay, here's what is the on And that was actually another thing that I wanted to bring up to me that you know, we say that and I see I have said that There has been cultural stagnation cultural freeze since the year 2000, but that's actually not true It's true in the way that we mean it Which is that aesthetics music film tv Art literature all of these things have stagnated But it's not true in the broader sense now And we need to be specific here because it's in the broader sense culture has actually transformed since the year 2000 And that's that's exactly what we're all despairing about And I'm also saying that we all love the year 2000.  You know, obviously Obviously, we know better than that but clearly there is constant decline and We can remember a better time even though it wasn't perfect. It was better and it was I mean it just was Uh, I mean there are zoomers. It was better in some ways and worse in other ways Come on ways to give me something man So to get back to the multimodal society, I think I've yeah, I think that uh, a sane society would Not just not have equality. It would explicitly reject the concept of equality For reasons that are just so obvious that I know that they're obvious to you and me but to a great percentage of the public It's not obvious that I think a great percentage of the public would be horrified to hear me There is an equality that inherently goes with nationalism Right, if you're a strong nationalist, then there is a sense of equality with fellow members of your nation Saying that a sane society would reject equality.  We can we can believe that we're equal in the eyes of god We can believe that we're equally members of our group We can believe that we equally Have have a mission But certainly we don't have equal skills Even though no one is actually interested in other cultures Um, but it is all There's incredible realms of possibility of the cross-pollination to different ideas But no one is actually interested in other ideas. It's nonsense. What they actually mean is that Okay, i'm not getting anything else told to check out this latest woezy Production and there's just nothing in there making false allegations against me So quickly just classic Instantly blame the victim now here on the gordonson channel. We love our we love our women God is a female We are paid up ardent feminists who pray at the shrine of Anita sarcusian and zoa queen And classic victim blaming occurs We're not even rounding out the first minute, but he's instantly going to go straight in with the kill own up to zero Of his faults. He's just admitted that i'm not going to earn up to any of my faults I'm even i'm just going to claim their applications and lies And instead he's going to dismantle this woman Right, and this woman's claims but not in any detail because if you are actually privy to the woman's claims It's indefensible. It's indefensible Deliberately entraping men and of being obsessed with men as sex predators Yeah, i've got to admit that i've grown from the me too movement. You know, I realized just some of my aggressive approach of women was incredibly off-putting and one specific area where i think i've grown that When you ask someone that you're an intimate relationship with to do something or even someone you're not in an intimate relationship with The the default that we have is often to say yes And so by putting women in an awkward situation and and manipulating them into having sex Yeah, they they bear some responsibility if they consent if they put themselves in that situation But you also bear substantial responsibility like if you introduce drugs to someone Or you introduce say unwanted sex to someone if you prod or push or manipulate You bear some substantial moral responsibility. I didn't I didn't really think about I didn't I didn't take cognizance of how when you're asking and manipulating or pushing someone to do something And then they they give in that's not that's not 100 consent. Maybe 100 legal consent. It's not 100 moral consent and so When we are something of someone when we manipulate someone We have to take responsibility for that and if it's something that's against their self-interest Then That's on us like


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Hello video now now now How That's an old Judge John Hodgman joke. Oh Judge John Hodgman. I Nominate you for the Supreme Court of my heart Oh That's an oldie an oldie but a goodie oldie but a goodie. Okay. Okay. Oh You should oh, I don't want to say that in the stream though It's all I hear editing sword and laser episodes. Oh stop Tivity titty tap tap tap. It's not making me feel bad You have super ears. No one else can hear anything you hear. Don't believe that You're the only one who can tell when my speaker is on with the volume turned down Like I hear an echo. Like you can't possibly hear an echo Belmont It's your credit. You've got amazing ears Never cease to be impressed I'm trying crazy to See has not great hearing SLC Josh is like I hear you typing. Well, maybe you also have super SLC Josh Or maybe my typing is that loud? I don't know. Are you literally are using like a cherry keyboard? Like what is your deal? What do you have? It's a logitech k120.  I'll make that loud too. I swear I saw Ryan's on his typing on the new Mac Pro Pro is like I don't not like those chicken keyboards and never have and they're now that they have even less travel like It's such a different sound from the old keyboards. I know Okay, shall we get going with the old show then? Oh, sorry the air conditioning just came on. I have no control over it Hopefully that's alright too annoying. No, it's not okay Well then well then Let's do this Daily tech news show is powered by its audience to find out more at a daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Monday January 30th 2017 I'm Tom Merritt joining me Veronica Belmont back on a Monday. How are you been Veronica? We missed you. I'm good Hi, honey. Oh happy Monday Happy Monday to you too. We're gonna be talking about robots who make coffee It I could not imagine a better topic for for us to talk about this is like basically Veronica podcast Like a dream podcast We're gonna talk about that in a little bit, but let's start off with the top stories In light of a disappointing Q4 earnings Fitbit announced it will lay off 110 people six percent of its workforce Fitbit sold 6.5 million devices in Q4 But saw revenues fall below guidance CEO James Park said the slowdown was part of a transitional period He promised the ability to deliver a more personalized experience and upgraded products, which will stimulate new areas of demand Yeah, this is our first check-in on the wearables market since Fitbit had a disappointing Q3 And disappointing forecast more for Q4. So they didn't meet the expectations of those disappointing Q4 forecasts. That's bad He's not wrong that This is a transitional period remember they they've just bought a lot of companies including pebble and and Yeah, they have yet to see the payoffs from that yet And I wonder how much that this is also attributable to Apple Watch and just the proliferation of a lot more Tracking devices out there on the market these days. I'm in a weird transitional phase right now Or I'm not I wore a Fitbit since they launched and I'm no longer wearing it and my Apple Watch broke So I'm no longer wearing that so I'm untrackable But it is you know Fitbit's a great brand and I think they've got a ton of smart people working for them So hopefully they can find a way to turn this thing around because they were really one of the first well-known brand names in the wearable Market that really picked up any steam and in the mainstream So hopefully they can figure out a way to turn things around Yeah, I look at Fitbit and I think they they got the first mover advantage in a lot of ways Which doesn't always mean that you win win the long game But there's no Credible threat to them either It's more about whether the market itself is just going to implode or if they can be the company that comes up With the way to revive the market before somebody else comes up with a way to revive the market and Apple Certainly is in on that as well. Jawbone is in on that There's a lot of people trying to come up with that thing. Mm-hmm. Yeah, totally agree Namco founder Masaya Nakamura has died at 91 Nakamura was often called the father of Pac-Man for heading that company that brought Engineer Toru Iwatani's creation to market in 1980 Nakamura founded Namco in 1955 with two mechanical horse rides on a department store rooftop That's awesome. I know I was sucker for that story of like he started with just two mechanical horses And launched an empire including Pac-Man only two mechanical horses to his name. Yeah And I do think it's unfortunate I I don't want to take anything away from from Nakamura son because he is the father of Pac-Man But then what does that make Toru Iwatani? He the midwife of Pac-Man or you know, he Nakamura son helped him kind of see the vision Yeah, no, and absolutely Nakamura was the one who made it possible for for Pac-Man to be created and what a heck of a legacy So unbelievable sad to see him passing Dropbox is launching paper globally Monday This will be our by my count 18th app to be named paper in history It is a basic document editor. It's not actually an app. It's a basic document editor within the Dropbox system It allows you to do collaboration Track your changes on a timeline. There's some project management features some really cool ones in the works for Assigning employees and doing some task management another feature is also being launched called smart sync This is Dropbox infinite if you remember hearing that announced smart think smart sync allows speedier automatic syncing Eliminate storage requirements on the hard drive So you don't have to reserve a bunch of space to keep all your Dropbox things. You don't have to do selective sync It'll just be smart enough they say to automatically figure out what's going on there paper launches for all users and 21 language markets now although you'll need an enterprise or business plan if you want to use the administrative features and Smart sync is only available as an early access program You have to be a business or enterprise customer to get that This is fascinating to me because it finally feels like Dropbox and Google Drive Slash Google Docs are kind of really going head-to-head in a lot of ways Yeah People use Google Drive as a document repository and use Google Docs to to essentially fill that and use that as an access point To get those online documents and Dropbox was always just that repository And so now having that editing feature like kind of brings them nose-to-nose in a lot of ways And one of the reasons that I've wanted large hard drives on my laptops is wanting to have all of my Dropbox files Locally so I could have offline access smart sync is their attempt to say you don't worry about that. You can have a smaller hard drive It's fine. You'll still have access to all your files Not obviously not offline, but we'll be smart enough to make sure that the ones you've accessed most often are the ones that are located On your hard drive when you need them. It's a lot of trust for me though. That's a lot of trust I know I feel I similarly feel that kind of fear every time I use one of these services What do you think of the project management aspect of paper? I need to look at it more closely because I I do love stuff like that So I I use a lot of different kinds of tools right now I don't have one one complete tool for everything I do in terms of keeping track of my documents and project management and task management So I'll have to see what that offers. We use Google here at my company We don't use Dropbox at all though So I think it'll probably we're in that ecosystem of Google in terms of all of our emails and documents and things of that nature So it would have to be really really good for us to completely make the shift Well, we could try it out on sort and laser because we use Dropbox for that And then if you love it then you could be like hey guys might want to look at this Yeah, check it out the Wall Street Journal reports that TechCrunch has confirmed that snap ink maker of snapchat Will list its stock in the New York Stock Exchange Woo recodes Cara Swisher reports that according to sources snap will publicly file it late next week on pace for a March IPO The company previously filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission in late 2016 to prepare for an IPO But this will be the first public disclosure of its finances Yeah, so it sounds like you're gonna be able to buy yourself some snap stock You think they're gonna get snap Oh as the code that that has been I read I read an interesting article about like the company that reserves the codes So that they can make sure that that companies get them and what you have to do to get your code I think I think they will it sounds like they will I thought you were saying are you going to snap up some of their snark Are you going to snap snap? I am I won't because I don't buy I mean, but if I didn't would I Yes, I think I might and this is this is not a stock purchase recommendation It is not a predictor of future results in any way But it does seem like Snap is on the upswing Whether it's gonna have like a spike on its IPO is a whole different matter Greg Sterling at marketing land has a column up posing the question of whether tech companies in the United States Can remain neutral in the country's current political climate uber suspended surge pricing in New York's JFK Airport over the weekend to avoid appearing to be profiting from protests there, however At the same time that they did this New York taxi drivers were engaging in a one-hour strike in support of protesters So many looked at it as profiteering by uber And a delete uber movement was started in response In addition uber CEO Travis Kalanick is a member of the president's CEO advisory board Conservative organizations in the past have organized boycotts of Amazon because Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post Netflix for issues with a documentary about Syria So it is increasingly becoming difficult for a company to go about its business in a way that doesn't offend someone We'll talk a little bit about this delete uber movement in the sense of whether, you know you you How how much it helps for you to vote with your dollars so to speak but just a reminder for folks who have a Desire for wider political discussion on this show daily tech news show we have kept throughout this entire crazy election And and and inauguration as a place away from politics if you needed a break from all of that The only politics we try to talk about on DTNS is when it bears on technology So we talk about encryption when Apple was was resisting a court case. We talk about net neutrality We've talked about Ajit Pai as the new commissioner of the FCC when it bears on your use of technology We're going to talk about it the rest of the time We keep it out of the show and we keep it out of the show on purpose Do not take that as us not caring and do not take that as you knowing what we think Myself and the contributors and our producer Roger Chang all have different opinions about these sorts of things And there are other places where you can go to find out those opinions I do a show with Roger Chang my producer called East meets West Justin Robert Young does politics politics politics I'm also angry on Twitter. You can follow Veronica on Twitter Scott Johnson does the warning streams so Patrick Beja does a great show called the Philius Club There's lots of places to get that sort of stuff It's it's that same idea of like you can't stay neutral That made me want to tell people like just because we're not talking about it doesn't mean you know what we think about it or that we don't care Indeed To bring it back to the delete Uber thing like how how hard is it for a company now because Uber has a whole lot of other problems with it, right? They've been arrogant for a long time and this may be reaping what they sowed a little bit in being so arrogant about things in the past, but if they didn't knock out surge pricing, they would have also been accused of profiteering, right? And I mean to to go back to politics and technology I mean Brian Krasanich from from Intel today, you know sent out a big email to to employees about immigration and that situation But he also sits on the technology board for Trump Right, so you know there's there's there's a lot of stuff at play here and we will keep you abreast of it and try to to refrain from sharing our More subjective opinions on the matter you can as Tom said find that information elsewhere Let's talk coffee. Okay Starbucks has added a feature called my barista to its app that lets you order and pay Let's you order and pay by speaking or typing in natural language 1000 iOS customers will get access to the feature in a limited beta test a phased rollout is planned through summer 2017 Starbucks also launched a reorder skill for Amazon voice services to use AVS devices to order the usual as designated in the Starbucks app Yeah, so I this is interesting to me in a couple of ways One is the fact that you see Starbucks doing a traditional beta phased rollout Of a feature. This is the kind of thing you expect on iOS or Android, right? This is actually I feel like this is highly unusual I I don't know if I've ever seen really a big big company do a phased rollout so small Before I mean, this is a very pretty small cohort and I I'm really curious to see like How the results are gonna look? I mean as a product manager I'm like fascinated by this kind of stuff. But yeah by by a traditionally non technology company doing this Yeah, but you know the Starbucks app. I got to say I love it I'm not a big Starbucks drinker. I'm kind of a coffee snob, which we'll learn more about later But the app is really convenient. It works really well. They've integrated it across all of their stores I mean, I was in Tahoe this weekend Skiing and I didn't have any cash or cards on me but I happened to have my phone and I was able to buy a hot chocolate because That is like the most first world problem of all time But it was it worked the way it was supposed to and they accepted it as payment and and you know that convenience level is kind of What makes Starbucks such a such an amazing popular brand? Yeah, I have to say I have not so one who thinks I Have not someone who who thinks Starbucks coffee is that good? It's not a prejudice against the company per se It's just not my favorite coffee of the coffees that I usually have available I will say that I have found myself going to their stores more Because people will give me gift certificates and then the gift certificates go in the app And then the app is with me and I'm saying oh well, you know what? I have a gift certificate. I'll essentially be free So okay, and and now I'm gonna want to go try out this chat bot And I'm gonna I'm gonna want to try talking to it and I'm gonna want to try typing to it and see You know if there are any differences and another interesting thing in the article that I read here I think it was in the TechCrunch article was that they have had to figure out how to load balance Because if and actually it might be in the the article about cafe X Because when they first launched their app as a way to order so many people were using it that the baristas couldn't keep up with The number of orders coming in, you know because usually a line of people will will kind of Moderate how many orders are coming per second, but if everybody can order at once no matter where they are There's no rate limiting there. Yeah, I mean to me. It seems like a good I really would like to know how they solve for that problem You know, I can imagine that maybe they have a dedicated person working online orders And so they're able to kind of guess what that person's output is going to be and and give you know Acceptable time frames for when your coffee will be ready to the customer I think that would make a lot of sense, but you can't really factor in I Guess maybe they have a way to factor in live customers and be able to combo those together Maybe they can see the list of orders already up at that particular store and start merging those two listen together To get a an estimated time of finished coffee All right, let's actually Extend the coffee conversation and talk about the robot making coffee at cafe x But real quick to get all the tech headlines HdA in less than 10 minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines calm All right Cafe X is now open in San Francisco at the Metrion not the Metrion Metrion I believe it's AMC Metrion most late the AMC Metrion Is it the the is back? Okay? It's the AMC Metrion so hard to keep up Anyway, this is the second location. There's also a location in the Hong Kong Science Park That's that one's a little harder to get to I guess it's a little more exclusive You have to work in the business park Founded by Henry who they're located in San Francisco their next location is planned for Fremont, California So they're keeping going but the main focus of this place is that a Mitsubishi six-axis industrial robot that they call Gordon prepares your coffee and Addressing that barista problem. We mentioned earlier can do a hundred to a hundred twenty cups an hour Veronica Mm-hmm. I have actually seen this thing in action they were part of Jason Calakannis's launch incubator and so they presented and did a little showcase at the launch conference last year and I was also on board as one of the like rotating advisors for that class Of companies in the incubator I don't have any stock in this. There's no conflict of interest here. I have nothing to do with them But it was really fascinating to see how they built this thing and how they built the technology around it and the software And it's definitely, you know, it's coffee at, you know mass production levels But it's better than what you would get out of a curing. It's yeah somewhere in between You know in San Francisco that vending machine that has the poker on the bottom of the cups Exactly. It's definitely a few steps above that. Well, if you're wondering how this works There's a there's a company called WMF that makes these high-end coffee machines And you'll see them sometimes especially in airports and places like that. They produce good coffee. They're machine-made coffee, but they're good They are not the same as having a Chemex made, you know, hand-drawn barista, but for machine-made coffee They're they're they're quite acceptable and the WMF coffee machines are networked So they actually receive your order and prepare the order the robot arm is simply grabbing the coffee Placing it on one of eight warmers and then when you come up to retrieve your coffee It puts it in the bin for you on your side what happens is you either use a kiosk in the in the restaurant or an app you order the coffee and When it's ready, they text you a code you walk up to the counter type in your four-digit code and then the robot puts your coffee in the bay so that only you are getting your coffee if You don't pick it up within eight minutes of it getting made They dump it and they say they'll make a second one for you for free if you just got if you ran late unavoidably Yeah, they also I thought they were doing some geofencing stuff where you can place the order on the app And when the machine knows that you're within a certain distance That's when it prepares it to make sure it's you know ready to go and hot and fresh Yeah, it said in the and I think in the fast company article that they do they are trying to work in some Prioritization so that they make the coffee for the person They know is in the restaurant because they ordered at a kiosk before the person who's still around the corner And that's that's interesting too because the melt here in San Francisco I think they only have locations here in SF Use a similar technology to make sure that your grilled cheese is going to be hot and fresh When you're within like a one block radius of the store Well, and what's interesting about this too is that they're able to to get you faster coffee, right? They're able to charge you less It's only two dollars and twenty five cents for an espresso two dollars and ninety five cents for a latte Which depending on where you're in are in the country may or may not sound like that good of a deal But you're talking about four or five dollars for that if you go to a nearby San Francisco location, so this is this is quite a discount and One of the articles I read pointed out when you go to a coffee shop And I'm not talking about like a four barrel or something really special But you go to a pizza or a Starbucks your barista might be really good They might have been doing it for a long time or they might have just started that weekend and they're just not quite up to stuff No, no, that's not how it works. That's not how it works at those stores Tom. Not at a Starbucks Maybe at it. Okay. Oh you're talking about Starbucks not the third wave.  This is not going to be and this is what I'm trying to say This is not gonna be as good as a ritual, right where they're saying look we only hire the best people We train them up. We do it right every time It's not gonna be as as handcrafted as that But it's gonna be cheaper and it's gonna be consistent because it's going to be made the same way every time Yeah, I mean if you if you're just looking for a cup of coffee or an espresso Like this is going to be a pretty good answer for you If you're in a rush if you're on the go if you if it happens to be a longer regular morning commute Like that's a huge time saver as opposed to having to go into a Starbucks or a Pete's or someplace like that Where you're potentially waiting in line if you didn't use the app to to have you know Standing in line behind people who are getting much more complicated drinks being made Sometimes you just want a cup of coffee. I can totally relate to that. Yeah, and and these WMF machines They're you keep an eye out for them now that you know what they are Take a look at this article in our show notes. You see you'll see them everywhere And I mean you've got a little bit of the wow factor here, too I mean part of it is just the excitement of seeing the robot make people's coffee Yeah, there's there's a bit of that going on here as well, and I think that's that's kind of fun Yeah, and like you said, there's there's lots of other businesses trying to take advantage of the things that we've learned about technology apps And and applying them to other industries specifically food. There's a place called. How do you say it? Is it east? It's a it's it's a yeah, it's a they make quinoa based meals Don't stop listening yet that they use data science To make them taste as good as fast food now, you don't have to believe that that's true, but a lot of people say yeah No, they've they've done it. They've they make this taste like it shouldn't be good for me And and they do the same thing they actually use humans to prepare the food But you don't have to interact with humans you just order from a kiosk or and I don't know if there's an app But you order from a key There is you can do it online I think there's an app and there's one actually in in the fight I here in San Francisco I haven't tried it yet because it's a little bit further than I care to walk for lunch most days But it is supposed to be pretty healthy And you just go and you pick it up out of a box like you have a numbered area and you go and you open it up And you take your take your meal away. Yeah, and this is not too dissimilar from what they've been doing in Japan For for ages and ages where you make an order and you get the food comes out and you're just like here's my hot lunch Yeah It's optimizing for for speed efficiency and also health and the twist is they're they're using data science to monitor like What are the flavors that people respond to what what are the things that taste like a Good level of fat but don't actually contain the level of fat so that we can mimic all those buttons that make us want to eat junk food But deliver health food and you've eaten it. How is it? I Haven't eaten it. It's too far. I'll do this. I'll try to eat it this week And I'll report back for the next show. I misunderstood. I thought you had at least gone once, okay? Yeah, let us know. I haven't I'm very anybody else anybody else who's tried this or the robot Send it to us feedback at daily tech news show comm All right, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit comm Let's get a few messages of the day out of the way First of all Mike in Australia writes I use my surface pro 3 about 50 50 in tablet and laptop mode when I'm doing uni work I'm often either typing in laptop mode or reading or marking up in drawboard tablet mode Other times I'll use it when gaming for notes and maps. So that's usually tablet mode My wife uses one for work one of the things they sell or consult on Support is eye tracking hardware and software for people with disabilities and for movie and TV Consumption as well as normal business use. So it's used in both modes very frequently as well It's entirely possible that Australians are just weird in this case or it seems far less likely that in this house We're tech edgy cases But he's trying to make the case that we use the hybrid functions of these hybrid machines a lot more than maybe I was indicating on a previous show hmm You don't have a hybrid do you I don't I do I know because I was saying on a previous show is like I just I've got one. I've got a surface pro. I just don't pull it off into tablet mode very often But maybe if I had a surface pro 3, I Don't know You guess you never know until you try you just don't Finally our boss Rob in Damascus wrote in and said I work for a large multinational company that often hosts data for our customers We are in a constant effort to expand our physical presence with data centers in new locations to allow companies and governments Who are bound by legal restrictions regarding where their data may be kept to use our services? Most of these laws require local data to be kept within the jurisdiction are predicated on the notion that Providing for that data to be covered by local privacy law if a court were to overturn this week's decision This is the decision that said Microsoft doesn't have to turn over data in an Irish server based on a US warrant if a court were to overturn this week's decision and allow US companies to be subpoenaed for data held in foreign data centers by US entities Or really any company was standing in the US I can very quickly see away her away from doing business with American companies Because of this threat to local protection over data held locally Many countries the EU in particular have a stringent privacy protection in place Specifically in reaction to American overreach and data collection by law enforcement If I agreed to be a Microsoft customer on the condition that my data being held in an Irish data center And I found that data still subject to FBI review. He's diddling instead of review But uh, he said I would probably stop being a Microsoft customer and go with someone local Uh, so yeah, just just someone who is affected by this outside the US saying it will definitely make a Difference over which companies we decide to do business with Thank you rob in Damascus for writing in on that and thank you Veronica Belmont for being on the show What do you got going on to tell folks about? Oh, good goodness gracious. Uh, yeah, you can always follow my angry rants on twitter at Veronica I'm actually trying to stay away from twitter a little bit these days So I'm a little more quiet over there than I've previously been mental health stuff, you know Just taking some time trying not to constantly be raging at the world Um, and of course sultan laser this week. We're going to be interviewing author brian mclellan Um, nope. I'm wrong. It's going to be bradley below bradley bowyer. Yep. 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That's definitely you. Yeah. Yeah, these are all People always let people make fun of me for being angry, but you you are an angry person Uh, it's if a paper app falls on the woods ellipses.  I have angry perspectives Oh same as same as you roger. You're not actually an angry person No, i'm vindictive. Uh, oh snap. We're on the stock exchange Oh snap, we're on the stock exchange. Nice Results are not so fit Ah, I want to be fit. You know who works at fitbit. I need to check up with him. It's uh, my client Uh, turns out a lot of paper is popular Turns out papers. That's that's the title.  Whoa, Steph. These are all uh, Stephanie ray. I kind of want robot machine is full of beans Okay, robot. What do you guys think who says robot anyway? Me I say it. That's why they're making fun of me. We can change it to robot. I still like it Robots it's an old it's an old Is it an instance joke? I don't even know robot arms robot arms. That's a tms joke. It is. Okay tms joke. Yeah It's a frog pants joke Yes, exactly it covers much ground It does robu double t robot All right, I have to go back to work. Okay guys Thank you, Veronica Okay, come on. Let me know what the I wish you know about monday as soon as I know Yes Thank you Yeah, there's an event for the project that i'm managing One of our big projects that needs managing uh next monday So I have to be there because the and because you're a project manager and it's a project. You'll need to manage it I'm not a project manager. I'm product manager manager. Well, then you don't need to go jobs Then why do you have to go? Did I say project manager? You said it was a project I'm product managing never mind. I'm gonna go go back to managing things Go manage a product somewhere Thanks, Veronica No, it's not No, it's not It's it's it's not it's probably just You're I don't know. I don't know. It may be perception or something, but it's definitely not. I'm sorry. I was just reading the chat Yes, I saw No, it's not. I like how quickly you jumped on her Like a like a leopard that pouts in the tree I Like a like a leopard that pouts in the tree He leaps. Well, it's only because we spent how long making sure that this shot Down here was pretty good We spent some effort on it. I'm just saying and so Roger and I made sure that this shot was clear I am not I'm using a Logitech. What is this? Is it a c920 or is it different? Maybe I don't know It's one of my least favorite things to get into troubleshooting the show on the show You know, they say people who can't let things go usually have really good memories Yeah, that's what makes it so hard to let go because you can never remove that impression from your mind I don't know why you're bringing that up right now. Roger Everyone that's ever wronged me is indelibly marked in my brain Memories somehow what made you think of that though. Oh, no about me being vindictive. I'm not vindictive. I'm not angry I just have Incredibly good memory for people who've wronged me You just have a very good memory. Yeah They said yeah, it was the thing is just like they just can't let it go because they always remember it And it's always like it's it's always fresh Mm-hmm Yes, bio cal says and yet schwood created an empire on troubleshooting online Except he had someone else to help do it I'm just need to have More people More people don't make roger angry.  Yeah Like I used to have detailed plans written out like what I would do to some people.  I just don't have the energy to be bothered by that Like I had a whole thing about like how to stake out a person and figure out what the routine was And then you know, it was a multi-stage step. It would be something I would implement over a course of six to eight months You can't accuse me of being rash No, you're very methodical. It sounds like Yeah, no, I would and the thing is I didn't want to get caught. So I had all these steps to ensure that whatever You know pieces of evidence I would keep to a minimum It's almost sociopathic No, it's not sociopathic sociopathic means I can't feel empathy, right? I feel empathy But they feel bad the whole time you're doing it No, because I haven't done anything yet Sounds like a lack of empathy I don't know Although I will admit that my favorite South Park episode is the one where Carmen gets back at that bully Like he he secretly grinds up his parents as part of a bullet chili It's really creepy, but I loved it. Thank goodness. That's a cartoon. Yes. I kiss because you Ah, that's it Scott tenerman. Thanks captain jack Scott tenerman who's got tenerman that is that was Um Eric Hartman in South Park's nemesis He was trying to train a pony to bite off his Genital by using a core or carry. Oh man. Why do you got to talk about stuff like that? Sorry It sounds horrible. I'm sure it is Yeah, tuxjib just expressed my exact exact feelings The list is long and the day is short. So I sort of just shrugged my shoulders and uh What I said the day is the list is long, but the days are short and I said it's way too much work What is to do all that to plan all the way to plan on my revenge topic. I didn't realize Everything for revenge movies. I know you do. It's a little odd Why Is it odd if it wasn't if it wasn't so weird they wouldn't make them really Because someone makes something it can't be odd. Let's let's look at the rest of the internet And you had uh Not jett nelson. Who's the other guy the english guy Pretty good looking and then he kind of went bald and then suddenly had hair again Jude law Oh, what jude law went bald? Yeah for a while it seemed like And then he got here again He's not that old Is he you don't have to be old to be bald. That's true I knew a guy from hasco had the unfortunate Well, I should say unfortunate. It's really just uh, it's really just a uh societal Yeah, jude law is 44. So Ah, it's older than me. I don't know where you're getting this. He went bald and then stopped Here, I'll send you I'm looking at It just looks like I'm just tired of people picking on other people Okay Like how would you feel if you're a jude law? Really wealthy and pretty Content, but that doesn't make it okay to be picked on How many times I just mentioned it once It's Like today I've never I've never had an ongoing dispute with jude law. So that was a better It was a better how many times Oh, I Started watching the young pope speaking of jude law He's very good in it. Did you love kill bill? I sting wants to know. Yes. I love to kill bill Yeah, I didn't think I didn't know why it was two movies. So I still don't know why it was two movies because it was too long Look Howl's has a good I know he said I should stop picking on you. I'm sorry I'll stop picking on you for being vindictive picking on jude law talking about people getting hit in the genitals How rude of me This is why people love the pre-show or the post-show or whatever Listen, he's jude law's a great act. I know I should be careful. Roger. I'll get his revenge on me You're right kv-87 Law's gonna get his revenge on you roger I think he really has he's like super successful. I think he has a pretty pretty say the best revenge is good living Right. He is not divorced Be good I'm falling down that trap No, billy zane billy zane No, I'm trying to think of the last movie. I saw billy zane and I think the last one was uh Was it titanic? What's it in titanic? Was he in titanic? I never really finished watching titanic all at once so I Forget a lot of that. I think I've eventually saw the whole thing, but Not all of it go Oh, he divorced or jude law divorced All right, he just had a standard Hollywood life He's really good in the young pope. We're gonna talk about it on cord killers It's gonna be a papal discussion Yes It might turn encyclical There's an interesting premise for a series of novels. What if the catholic church invented space travel? Oh, well, there is that That exists. Oh, really? There's like a several. Yeah I mean a canticle for libo wits is a little bit along those lines, but also um shoot we read one for Sword and laser and now I'm blanket on the name of it crucifix in the cosmos No I gotta I gotta finish putting in this metadata and then I'll look at it It was basically Jesuits Did the first did first contact? They built a series of missions on different planets. It was Jesuits in space Look space robes The sparrow Oh The sparrow by mary doria russell. It's really good too I'll have to watch it. I mean read it watching us so bad Ancient pope aliens The young pope's good because it's not what I expected And they bill it is like oh a young american gets uh elected pope What'll happen when he upends the order and i'm like, okay, maybe you know could be good It's not it's not what you think Does it does it have conspiracies in it? Uh, yes for sure But they're you know, they're very believable conspiracies. It's not like dan brown or anything. I've almost got everything uploaded That robot machine is full of beans Robot robot robot Everybody has a robot Publishing now whoo All right. Thanks everybody for watching. It's nice to be back downstairs. We'll talk to you tomorrow fight