Pa šli. Sve vmeste. Kaki vaši dokazateljstvo? Koga inu? Umešli. Umešli. Visiš da se pristavili. Umešli. Završim, da je bilo dobro. Jel' da imam Nathan Drake. To je zeloj. Ja, to je... To je razlika i bilo, da se ti našli, da je bilo... Zatakljno. To je... To je bilo dobro? Ovo nema što se da su vidim, da se mi nema što se dobro. Samo je. Ovo, samo je... Ovo, to je. Ovo. To je uvijek. Jel je to. There are some additions near the end to fill the time in our missing individual. Yeah, I had a hard time with everyone except for Matt and Rebecca. The deepfakes look so bad for all of us. The one that looked great ironically for Lance was one of him as Dixie D'Amelio. I think that's her name. Doing like some sort of a TikTok trend with Bryce Hall. I didn't know what that was. That's awesome. Not really mafia themed, but you know what?  I'm sure Lance will love it. Hell yeah, I'm all about it. Yes, yes, it was very sad. I was telling everyone in DM for the viewers as I was editing out Ole and doing the Stalin meme to her. It was very sad, you know, doing the Stalin meme is funny, but not when you're doing it to a friend, right? So, yeah, yeah. Right, I agree. Spijking of Ole though. People should go, it's her birthday today. Yes, that's right. Yes, shower her with love and appreciation. And subs. And subs, absolutely. Go subscribe to Alura Naughty. Yeah, and we do have a guest coming up, Dan, from the internet, I believe he'll be here soon. So, yeah. I just saw this in the super chat and since it's relevant, I might as well share this here. Dynamic Editor says, the new thumbnail might look like social distancing is now banned in the leftist mafia. That's right. We're all very nice and cuddled up in that image. Well, you know, it's difficult because I had to chop off half of Lance's body, so that means I have to move myself over and then also move David over because David has only about a fourth of his body. So, you know, trying to squish everyone together until we get new artwork, which we will at some point, we'll get new artwork, but you know, just making do for now. I don't know why.  I'm impressed by your skills. I couldn't do that cleanly. If you look closely, it's probably pretty flawed. Like, I'm sure people who are more savvy than me will notice. But yeah, you know, it's... I enjoy it for some reason. I really like the music. That's really good. Yeah, thank you. I said last week you never want to just donate your editing time to me.  A logo, an intro. Ooh, wow. I'm down. I like doing stuff like that. I don't know why. Mike's gonna take footage of me and cut it into things I'm not actually saying. Like... Welcome to the right wing show. Doomed. We love white supremacy. It's gonna be... Sorry, clipped. Yeah, that's gonna be clipped immediately. Well, that's why I said it in the most robotic way possible. So, even if it is clipped, clearly there is some sort of context and joke going on. Smart. It's better anymore. I'm just seeing it. So, I've got to get everyone's opinion on this. What do you all think of the new Twitter rebrand, X? Apparently, it was banned in Indonesia because of their porn laws.  It's great. I love it. It's wonderful. You are Musk is so great. It's brilliant. He's smart. He's a good guy. Yeah, I saw somebodies.  I think I saw this on Reddit. I can't credit the person who did this. But it's like, hey, all of these are porn sites, except for one of them. And it was Twitter, because there was X-Hamster, X-Videos, X-Tubes. It feels very porny. And I don't think that Elon Musk realized that or maybe he didn't just didn't care either way.  It doesn't matter. I do think that the rebrand is like the least of Twitter's problems. That's a lot worse issues. But it doesn't help.  And it's just completely pointless. And it sounds like there's potentially could be lawsuits on the horizon because he doesn't really own. Like, doesn't Microsoft own X? I don't know. There's a whole backstory. Yeah. It's the whole thing that I don't really care enough to read about it. But apparently, not all of it. Both Microsoft and Facebook have better claim to X as a copyright in the digital sphere because of Mixer for Microsoft. And I can't remember the reason for Facebook, but it's one of those situations where like, I don't know if you saw this. Apparently he lost anywhere between like four to like 15 or 20 billion dollars in just name recognition by throwing away Twitter tweets. Like, you don't think about it.  But did you see his response to that? It was hilarious. He says, actually, X will be the most profitable brand in the world. I'm paraphrasing. But his last last part of that was make my words. So like, he actually got a typo instead of saying mark my words. Instead of make my words. And like, it wouldn't be funny in any other circumstance. But because Elon Musk did it while he was trying to be arrogant, it just makes it so much more amusing to me. Like, what a clown.  But yeah, I also saw that he's going to take away the light mode.  So yeah, that's fun. So another reason to not use Twitter is probably the reason why I don't really like using threads as much because I want the white background. I like light mode. So whatever, it's just like little things here and there, adding to it to make it shittier. I also like, I'm one of the few, you and I. Most people like dark mode and I get mercilessly, there we go, mercilessly mocked. Yeah, we're not using dark mode, but I mean, I don't like how it looks with dark mode. It's something about it bothers my eyes, actually.  So I tend to keep it dark just for those moments. Yeah, no, that makes sense. You know, it's just one of those different strokes for different folk scenarios. So why take away the option? It's just he wants to make it shittier for whatever reason. Like, I don't, I genuinely don't know if he's trying to destroy Twitter.   But like, is he trying to destroy Twitter as well?  I don't know. I think this allows him to, if Twitter, or should say, probably when Twitter, like just collapses, he can say, oh, you know, X was a mystery. I made mistakes with X or whatever. Like he, there's a way where he can not take claim to saying that he destroyed Twitter. He could just be passed off as like, oh, it was the X project.   But he can just call it X now and it was never Twitter. No, I don't think that's it. I mean, cause he values the X brand more than he values Twitter. This is his baby. X is his dream. He's been... Yeah, he's been trying to do it since the PayPal days. 20 plus years in the making. Yeah, this is... I mean, he literally went back.  He literally went back to PayPal back in 2017 and asked if he could get the domain back and purchased it back from them. Because that was the name of his company when it combined with PayPal back in the day during the dotcom bubble. And he tried to get PayPal when he was CEO. He tried to get PayPal to change its name to X.  And they booted him from the... Cause by this time eBay sellers were already saying like, oh, let me PayPal you. And like that's like... Once your brand name becomes like a dictionary word and people use it in everyday language in like global lexicon. It's like, you've hit you've hit the highest level of like... Brand recognition. Brand recognition, right? So you don't get rid of that. Just like Twitter with tweets. People, you know... No one would ever do that. Right, so the fact that like he's willing to get rid of all that for X clearly shows that this is... X is his baby. Did you see that? He wants it to become like half of all global commerce. That's like his long term vision. And like at this point I don't know anyone who would trust him with like a credit card let alone their banking info and like sign up. But like this whole thing is a nightmare. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I would not... Listen, I would not trust that company with my private information. My banking information. Hands down, you wanna say you stand on the platform, you do this to that on the platform? Fine, but I would not trust my money deposited with that company. I mean, first of all, we've already seen how much they value privacy over there being that Elon Musk literally leaked internal private emails from the company and not just like emails of the employees which to me is suspect to begin with and not good. But also on the other end of those emails are people who were interacting with Twitter employees who were not employed by the company. So he also leaked to their private communications, too. And then on top of that, just yesterday, a major right-wing influencer on Twitter, like Dama Lucre or something like that, he goes by. There's content warning for this story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Warning. Trigger warning, content warning.  I mean, now I'm joking. Just when I gave the warning. To get on the road. Wait, we can bring our guests in now as you're choking. So here Dan is here. Hey, Dan, good to see you. I was trying to find a time to bring him in. There we go. Thank you for choking that. Hey, Dan, yeah. I don't know what happened. It's just like basketball. The choke is the opportunity to get get right in there. There you go. So I already gave the warning. So let's go. Let's let's get into this. Have you played about this, Dan? This Dom Lucre character? I haven't, actually. I was listening before I came on. So I know you're roughly talking about Elon Musk XXX, you know, et cetera things. You gave a trigger warning. So go ahead. Ja, but I'm not sure who is the rather French name you just said. So clue me in. Well, really quick, let's let Dan tell everyone who he is and where he's from. Really quick. Those who don't know. Oh, you're so kind, Mike. Thank you. I haven't been on the stream, honestly, with Lance, but definitely not with Mike or you, David. So hi, good to meet you. Hi, everyone. Yeah, great to meet you. I'm Dan from the internet. I've been.  I've been just like an online guy. No, I guess my biggest online guy. I like that. I have been online. It's a good title. I do truly relate to Bender in the sense that like my claim to fame is sort of like behind the scene slash slightly on camera on another show and I sort of branched out. So like I used to be behind the scene slash slightly on camera for the Young Turks. When Hasan was making breakdown videos, those had a writer that was me co-writing them with him. When John started the damage report with John Iderola, that he started that with Brett Ehrlich, another wonderful producer there and myself. So I was there for that. When Jimmy Dorr did a show on the Young Turks, I was the producer for that. Oh, we have you to blame for that? I don't know about this. Off the show, off the show, bye. Kicking you out. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that was one of my. I didn't do that by choice. Let's just say that. But no, no, no. After leaving QIT in 2020, I left just before the South Carolina primary and just before COVID-19. I've kind of just been doing my own things kind of on the business side. Also some stuff on streaming. For folks who are fans of a leftist panel show on Thursdays, I also do Power Report Live that oftentimes runs during the exact same time as this does, but goes a little bit later. So, you know, no, no, no, hate. I love it. Editor here.  Y'all are leading in for the prime time. And I'm just kidding. I love everyone. And yeah, for folks who want to check that out, I'm at twitch.tv slash Dan from the web or youtube.com slash Dan from the internet. But yeah, I've been trying to... Lance and I have been talking for DM'ing back and forth for a while now. Fan of each other's work. I'm glad we're finally able to be on a stream together. And yeah, I genuinely love... For the name of the game, for the name of what folks are doing on the left to grow audiences, grow channels, spread the message. I greatly appreciate what y'all are doing here. So, yeah, thanks for having me on. And sorry to do real. It's great to have you. I always get called in narcissists when I'm on stream, which is hilarious, because we all are. But... Well, you're in good company because each episode we spend at least 20 minutes congratulating ourselves for the amazing work that we do and awesome videos. So you are in perfect company, my friend. The opposite of a struggle section. This is why we're making a lot of fun again. But I'm sorry to catch you off, Matt. Please continue. Oh, no, no problem. Yes, to the child abuse, Matt. Yes. Can't wait to hear about this. I mean, I'm not going to get into explicit detail, obviously. But, you know, it's certainly something to be aware of. So, there's this right-wing influencer named Dom Lucre. And he constantly posts. He's like a QAnon adjacent right-winger, constantly posting conspiracy theories on the platform. You know, every other tweet from... Wayfair cabinets. Queer people are groomers, style stuff. Oh, he's responsible for that. OK. He's also one of these Black Twitter people, which I see in a whole different lens, but we can get into that later. Right. And so, he apparently a couple of days ago. Well, not apparently, because I've since confirmed exactly what he posted. A couple of days ago, he went on one of his long stories because he's not actually posting any revealing information. He makes conspiratorial remarks about various politicians he doesn't like.   And this video is from a very well-known case of an Australian guy who was living in the Philippines and was basically producing this sort of horrific pedophilia content for people on the dark web who would pay him thousands of dollars. The material in this video specifically is apparently so horrific that the Philippines wanted to bring back the death penalty in their country specifically for this guy. He's now spending something like 120-some-od years behind bars. So this guy decided to post a still image from this video.  But he also made sure to add a watermark of his Twitter handle on the photo. So everyone knew it was his content.  Imagine branding something like that, thinking this is going to be good to promote the Instagram or whatever. That's so twisted. Right. I'm not going to get into any more information about this content. You get the gist. Matt, what was the context of him posting that?  Or was he condemning it? It was a whole story. This guy is constantly posting stuff saying he's outing and exposing people. In this specific case, though, the guy is already behind bars. His accomplices, he had two grown women who were helping him create this stuff when he was. I think this was like in 2012 when this was going on. They're also behind bars. This is not some, this case is done. There's no reason to post this content. These videos are highly sought after in those gross networks. In fact, this video was found on Josh Duggar's computer when he was arrested for. So, yes. There was no need to go into this. But he posted the whole story of this guy and posted the still image. Days later, he was suspended. This was on, what's today, Thursday. So on Wednesday morning, he was suspended. No one knew why he was suspended. All of these big right-wing influencers from Catturd to Carrie Lake to the Hodge twins, all of these folks were rallying for him to get unsuspended. And then out of the blue, one of the Krasnstein's post, how he doesn't know why Dom Lucret was suspended, but he went on this rant about how we should get more transparency as to why people are suspended. And I agree with that. But Musk then went into his, the Krasnstein brothers mentions and decided to share exactly why Dom Lucret was suspended. I mean, this is, this was odd to me because this is one of Musk's guys to him to openly talk about this and then add this extra thing at the end, which I'll get to, which is obviously the most horrific part of this. But this is one of the guys who were in like the chosen few who got paid already by the Twitter creator program, this guy who was suspended. And so Musk goes and says, the reason for suspension should be shown, along with the ability to appeal quickly and easily.  But then he says, I'm told that this account was suspended for posting child exploitation pictures asociated with the criminal conviction of an Australian man in the Philippines. And then he posted a CNN link to the case, which is fine to give it context. But then he follows it up with another tweet. Only people on our CSE, which is child, I'm guessing sexual exploitation team, has seen those pictures, which I'll get to in a second, because that's not true. For now, we would delete those posts and reinstate the account. So after saying, this guy posted child exploitation pictures, he also said, we're gonna bring it back. And so the guy was back on Twitter, or ex as it's now called. He's trying to really change the narrative of what happened, even though Musk's comments or replies are all there for the public to see. And this guy's followers are really buying into it. He's claiming that this was just an excuse and the real reason he was suspended was because he got like too close to the truth in his tweets about President Barack Obama. Yeah. I mean, the original tweet that was since was deleted by Twitter, it was not barely seen by anybody and only seen by the Twitter team that takes care of this. It was, it had, before it was deleted, it had 3.1 million views. It had thousands of bookmarks, meaning some sickles out there were bookmarking these images. I mean, it's bad stuff. And I mean, listen, this material exists on the internet. And on platforms as big as Twitter, ex, whatever, obviously, some of this stuff gets lost in all the noise. Twitter did actually have a team that found it on their own, or it was reported to them. And took a little too long, if you ask me, the amount of days, it was like four days, but they still took it down. Obviously that should get better. They should not be happy about how long it took. But that's, they must basically fire the whole team that dealt with this stuff. But the real problem here is that Musk was so quickly to intervene and bring him back. Like those other, like the other issues, other platforms deal with. You'll see all the other platforms have content like this that needs to be taken off immediately and they screw up and it's up there for too long and it's taken down eventually. They all need to work on that. That's not unique to Twitter. But Musk, personally intervening to bring him back, was very bizarre. I mean, I don't know what to say about that. Just very bizarre. After posting child porn. Yeah. Yeah, that makes him implicit. I mean, immediately too. Like let's take the context for a second that this guy really didn't see anything wrong with posting the, he went out of his way to edit it, which first of all means he didn't have the edited version. He literally has the original copy of this material. I don't know if he got the edited version or copy the material based on his tweet because he had a follow up tweet explaining what was in the picture when it was still up. It sounded like he personally edited it, but I don't know. Let's just say, give this guy the benefit of the doubt, which knowing his history, I don't know if we should give him that, but let's, for the sake of argument, give him that benefit of the doubt that he thought he was doing well. This, like exposing this stuff, letting people know what exists. I mean, A, posting, owning, viewing this content, regardless of it being edited or your context for it, is actually illegal according to federal law, at least in the United States of America. Yeah, there is no context for it. Like I saw the responses from people saying that, like, well, what's the context? What happened here?  They like, it's already been identified, like Jesus. But second of all though, second of all, this should tell you exactly why this whole idea behind citizen journalists are going to, because this guy thinks he's doing an act of citizen journalism without knowing how to actually protect the people he's supposedly talking about. You don't post the child sex abuse material to save the children or to put a message out there to spread the word because you are literally re-exploiting them by sharing that imagery again. And I'm giving him a real benefit of the doubt here, but I want to cover all bases and why this is ridiculous on every single level. No journalist who takes care to cover the story would have ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever would have posted those images, period. I think most normal people wouldn't have posted it, but I have to assume that he knows, he knew what he was doing. I mean, how could you, how could you not? He put his whole watermark in the corner, and this whole, the reason why I was curious about like why he, like what the context was, because like, if he were to be like, hey, look at this, this is bad, I'm sorry, but that's like a really thin justification for you posting and when you just wanted to post it. It's genuinely sickening and he, I'm not gonna make any allegations, but I'm suspicious of this person. I could see that argument for a range of different topics, no matter how horrible, something that someone says, or something like that. This is the topic where that is not, that is like quite obviously not where that's applicable. I mean, it's, it's quite clear and I don't think it needs to be explained honestly. Yeah. Did you see that he replied to you, Matt?  That was his reply to your viral tweet.  You know, you got a good argument when you're just gonna do that. I mean, I don't even care, I'm not gonna even, I've got, I have a new rule where I don't reply to anyone with a blue check on there cause I don't wanna give them up any. Cause that's what you're doing, by the way, if you view any blue check on them. Yeah, he's one of the people who said that he actually got a payment.  Are they profiting from this? Yo, when does Rebecca come on? Cause I have like a very wild take that I need to be like checked on by another black person. So, like, that being said, I am willing to spit it to y'all.  She should be here relatively soon. Yeah. I'm not sure what time though. You could just share it, but we'll, you know. David, give your opinion. This is me being a producer again. Like, David, give your opinion. Maybe we'll see if that stalls, but like, yeah. Oh, I don't have an opinion. I'm just sick. I'm sick and by all of what's happening in terms of this idea of who the groomers are. And, like, again and again and again, these people expose themselves. Like, it's just, it's so very clear. And this whole story, I wasn't even aware. Like, Twitter, I'm barely on now. Like, I'll tweet on my video links and I'll post about video games and that's about it. There's very little I'm engaging with. So, I'm just finding, you know, all the stuff to be just hard to engage in any of these conversations because it's just, it's, again and again, I'm just disgusted at what's going on. Yeah, I also really wanna plug a some more news video. They did a, I think it was like a 50 to hour, minute long video about groomers and how, you know, LGBTQ plus people are being labeled as groomers by the right. But they go into great detail basically expose how the right, they are literally complicit in the grooming of children. You know, when you look at the way that they cover up certain stories, they refuse to go after the Catholic Church, refuse to investigate people within their own. Just watch the video because it's very good. Like we've heard before, every accusation is a confession that absolutely holds true. Right. I mean, I had people, you know, I was, I saw Elon Musk's reply explaining why this guy was reinstated, unsuspended. And I needed to share this cause people weren't seeing it. People don't see replies as much as they do public non-replot tweets. And, you know, my explaining what just occurred and went down got a lot of views and a lot of this guy's followers were defending him in my mentions. And a lot of their excuse was either A, it was him exposing it, which again, we've already discussed that, but then B, this was really bizarre and a bunch of people were explaining this. It wasn't his stuff. He was just reposting other peoples. Like they don't, these are the people who apparently are obsessed with stopping child trafficking and calling, like we said, calling other people pedophiles and saving the children and calling other people groomers. They are, whether they are genuine in those feelings or not, they are actively harming exactly what they claim to be trying to do in how they go about it.  Like he's not actually exposing anybody. Right, right. Like, I gotta, that's where I wanna kind of jump in this approach. As a first point, but preliminary is the one I was looking for. I knew I'd bring him to the P. Because at the top level, we're in a really interesting time with journalism more broadly, right? Like, we, it's pretty clear like on the left or on the right, like, you know, for the average, and you have to be very careful when you're talking about these things cause you can say Democrats and you can mean elected people or you could mean, you know, everyday voters who like slot D every time cause they, that's how they vote, right? But like, what I mean by like regular everyday folks, either folks that we're on the internet with that we interact with all the time who are like a special community. Let's say like, if you're on the internet all the time and you know who Dom Lacrae is, like, I love you, but we're a special group, all right? But versus like, you know, the broader public. So lately I've tried to make sure that my politics and the way I speak about politics is oriented towards that broader public. And that knowledge that I have, look, I'm not gonna lie to you and say like, I'm from the streets. Like, I grew up in a urban area. I like often, I still go in this area. I'm like a lot of more prominent leftists that I happen to know who be that as it may, right? But like, Dom Lacrae reminds me of the guy at either the liquor store at the barber shop, who's like always trying to spit at you, some like, you know, some conspiracy theory about like, hey, yo, guess I read about the government. Like, hey, yo, you're not gonna believe this.  Cause that's just the banter. Like that's just going on, all right? But like, Dom Lacrae is not a serious person.  You don't understand how many folks there are in the black community who will in real life or regular life be all like, oh, eff this politics, I don't really care.   Right now they have this like fake groomer scare, this groomer panic, because when you get outside the world of politics, everyone's like, oh yeah, I care about children. I wanna make sure children are not being exploited and not being safe. And so he'll, to bring it back to Dom Lacrae, he'll do these posts and it's kind of why I saw him, I scanned him like a couple of months ago and I was like, eff this guy.  Absolutely not. Like, and again, legal-ish, like I don't know this for a fact, but like I just know this type of scammer within my community.  And these are just like, especially in like the content creation game. These are just words, right? Like I could write, we could title a video that's like, you know, Chevron is found to do offshore drilling that they're not supposed to do and it gets like negative five views.   But because of the fact that we are in this space in media where there are no gatekeepers, people don't really have any sort of, like, okay, why should I trust Fox News? Or why should I trust MSNBC? Or why should I trust The New York Times? Any more than Dom Lecrae? Folks like that can jump in and give people the, okay, hey, trust me cause I'm not mainstream media.  And I can make this sort of like media environment for myself so much that one of the richest, most respected, even though of sort of complete bullshit reasons, one of the richest and most suspected CEOs in the world is an Elon Musk, will now cater to my beck and call because I'm on this agenda that happens to be aligned with the same agenda that Elon Musk is trying to align to because getting back to that earlier conversation, sorry, I know I'm all over the place, like getting back to that earlier conversation of like, did Elon Musk mean to destroy Twitter purposely or not? No, Elon Musk did the same thing that Mark Zuckerberg did, which is fall for the head fake that Republicans were giving over the entire social media age, but especially since 2015, 2016, that social media, by definition, because their headquarters are in California and their executives and senior project managers are all liberal, has some inherent liberal bias. Never mind what the people consume on that site, never mind what constantly goes viral as opposed to what gets oppressed. All of these rich people believe in this narrative that big tech equals woke, big tech equals liberal. And so seeing someone go against the grain of that, it's the exact same reason why like Candice Owens is popular because, yeah, she's going against the grain, but she looks like someone, I'm talking about Black Skin, that looks like they're not supposed to go against the grain. So for some reason you think you should trust them more because they're riding on that, oh, I can't be told by anyone, I can't be bossed by anyone. Meanwhile, this is just kayfake, it's just lies, it's just spin.  And that's the exact face I got from Dom Lecrae on day one. And so, yeah, I hadn't thought of him that much until now because his bit is, oh, I'm gonna expose a pedophile, I'm gonna expose a pedophile, I don't have any information, I'm pretending to be a journalist, but I'm gonna expose a pedophile. It's this really sad game and a reflection of where we are at right now on media that thankfully we're fighting against. I was gonna say though, I think that regardless if he is serious or the whole thing is just a griff to make money, one of the really scary precedents that this whole scenario has started is that the actual owner of the website has made an exception to personally intervene and then reinstate an account after someone has directly broken the rules of posting child porn and then admitting to the fact that that actually happened, then being like, okay, well now the child porn has been deleted, but the account is back. That's pretty massive, what do you think? And this is supposed to be what the world's second richest human titan of industry, all that kind of stuff. This is still a pretty horrifying event. And he supposedly bought the platform off of, again, buying into this false narrative from the right wing that Twitter is an inherently leftist, tilting their finger on the scales towards leftist discourse and conversation and promoting those ideas when the so-called Twitter files that were exposed show that there was, as Matt Bender brilliantly reported on as well and the number of others did, there was a lot of internal strife within Twitter about how to handle situations that turned these right wing buzz points, like the Hunter Biden stuff. But it's because Elon Musk has accepted this right wing framing of, oh, everything, even the stuff you hate, even the stuff you find morally despicable, even though we have proved that the proliferation of these things online without any sort of context or flag, community modes be damn, but knowing that the proliferation of the stuff online leads people to just believe these things even though those of us with a little bit of education know they're wrong, Elon Musk goes, oh no, we have to let that go through it because what if the Nazis have a point? What if the people who are slandering folks about pedophilia, what if they have a point one day? What if a broken clock is right twice a day? Like, that's his application towards free speech, which is fine in some context, but when you're trying to run a platform based off of advertiser revenue and subscriber growth, people have to inherently like being on that website and if they have to worry about, Lance of the Serbs is about to be exposed by Tom Lecret, then no one's gonna go on that site. I also just hate being on Twitter in general now. It's just like Hitler's bunker.  It's depressing. Yeah, this whole environment that we're in currently, I mean, there's legitimate reasons to not trust the media or to be skeptical of the media. I mean, these are by and large businesses, right? Their goal is not to disseminate news, first and foremost, it's to make a profit, but then people take that lack of trust in media and then rather than trying to become more literate with the way that they engage with media, they just do the opposite and they go full contrarian, they start trusting the charlatans or completely idiotic, nobody in this country knows how to actually digest the information that they're taking. So it just comes down to, oh, well, this person said it, so I trust them inherently, this person said it, so I don't trust them or this is what most people are saying in mainstream media, so the opposite by default must be true. And that can lead us to some really strange places, right?  So it's frustrating because there's this anti-intellectualism and there's this penchant for conspiracy theories that is not healthy and I don't know what to do about it because you would think that the media should serve its role, but if the trust is gone, how do you restore that? It's a very strange moment that we're existing in and I hope that we collectively snap out of it, but I don't think that's gonna be the case, unfortunately. Did you see that Elon Musk was promoting some aspect of how myochiditis, like conspiracy theory about myochiditis and the rates at which people receive them and then he got a community note check and then he made that community note disappear? Oh, right? Yeah. I will say that community notes could be removed by the community. So you have to be careful with that. I don't know if he personally, in fact, for that one, I don't think so because I don't think he cares enough. Do you know what I mean?  And they haven't appeared. Just like you can vote for a community note. Haven't we all? All right. Just like you can vote for a community note. Just like you can vote for one to be added to a tweet. You could also get enough people to remove one too in their vote for it against it, I should say. And to your point, like earlier, I think it was Mike who was saying this, like, there's, I come of the era of, I guess, our generation where we looked a lot towards the early blogosphere of the 2000s and sort of how you think of folks like Sam Seder, folks like, you know, Janki Ugar on his better days, right? Folks like Ezra Klein and even Matt Iglesias back when they were less annoying. Like they came up at a time when everyone in mainstream media was like pro Iraq war, pro Bush legitimacy, right? And the internet was a lot less fragmented. I mean, arguably more fragmented, arguably less fragmented. I mean, everyone was on forums and different blogs and websites. And it was less of a social media and we might be going towards that right now. But point is, there are folks in 2000 and to be like, you know, let's shout out Tom Hartman. Let's shout out a number of other folks who've been holding it down since then, right? Like, they pushed through the Iraq wars, the good idea narrative, the weapons of mass destruction narrative. Hell, I cringe as fuck, but even Keith Olderman, right? Like they were able to, like have an audience and a message and be able to genuinely make the audience feel like when they were hearing these right wing talking points, they had, again, like they had like Rachel Maddow. This is where she got her like big gig on Air America and then on MSNBC. She would have these 20 minute long monologues completely unheard of in cable TV, but it would empower the audiences watching them. Like, yeah, I'm talking about the early 2000s. We know what's happened in the early 20, like later 2010s, like bite me, I'm trying to make a point here, like, but we saw what happened when you were able to ignite an audience with like that much information, that much perspective to be able to go out into the real world and interact with other people who had fallen for this sort of brainwashing and to be able to disarm that and just go, not only am I going to like fight you on your level if I can, but I think what we find, I'm not the biggest like debate lord ever, but I think what we find in the most effective online debates is when someone's not only able to debate them, but literally not play their game.  No, I'm gonna rearrange the furniture a little bit. I'm gonna explain this game on my terms. And by the way, these are the terms that are more based in reality and people are going to like. So I think there is a way to, you know, not break out of this cause Fox News didn't die because Keith Oldman gave like some special comment on Thursday or Friday, right? This'll still exist. There'll always be a market for these types of grifters as there are grifters on like the post left, let's say, right? But if you get the audience and that's why I'm so passionate about, you know, different leftist shows having their audiences and having their perspectives but also having a cohesive message that you're using without attention, then you can go out into the world and people are just better able to do these things. Like, hey, like, I have my close working together relationship with Hasan in the past. I know some people have like different opinions of big streamers, like be that as it may.  And so there is absolutely a way out of this cycle. It just involves, I think, you know, not to put any blame on anyone but like it involves, it's incumbent on those of us with platforms and those of us who are building platforms to be really, you know, check in with ourselves and make sure that we're giving our audience not just entertainment, but also a message that they could use to fight this off in their heads and then maybe even fight this off in their real life when they are interacting with people. Cause my last point is that we, like us on camera are not really good at changing people. We can change people's opinions over time but what's really good at changing people's opinions is the people watching the show, talking to people in their real lives. You watching this show have so much power to change the perspective and the opinions or even just nudge it here or there than just saying, hey, go watch Leftist Mafia.  But if we're doing a good job, try to have these conversations in real life with people and you'll start to realize that your real life relationship with them and you being reasonable and fighting off their points is gonna start to get to them at a certain point and they may, depending on how stubborn they are, one day they will admit it to you and you can be smug as hell after that. But I mean, that's what the fight's all about. Yeah, I'm glad that you said that because I do feel like we have a responsibility and collectively we all kind of have different roles. Like for me, since 2021, I've kind of been on a mission to give people talking points to use against their QAnon family member, anti-vax family member and like trying to get people to engage in a responsible way, like that's planting the seed. Like I did a video yesterday on the UFO things and I tried to be level-headed with the UFO people. I should have been much more mean to you fuckers, but I tried to be level-headed, right?  But the problem, if you accept a lower standard of evidence for this conspiracy theory is you might do the same for a different one and you could get roped in. Like this is the way that it works, right? So it's not just about this conspiracy theory, it's about the way that we engage with content and our standard of evidence. So like, I think that trying to give them the skills is really an important function of like what we do. The difficult part is trying to do it in an entertaining way because as you said Dan, like if you do a video about climate change and how to talk to people, nobody wants to watch it.  So trying to find ways to like empower the people who we watch, that's been my goal, but it's so hard cause like we're all just like, we don't, there's no book to go to, to, you know, how to address certain things. We're trying to learn as we go along. I think Marjorie Taylor agree and shitting her pants would be the ultimate content. I don't think you'd need to add anything. Well, to add some value there though.  So let's talk about the cows.  Best performing climate change video I've ever done. Emissions. There you go. Yeah, yeah.  Thanks, Mike. The fart heard around the world. I forgot about that. It didn't wear a service t-shirt. Well, you know, hopefully it's a new sales part. Sorry, what's there also a fart at a recent like RFK junior thing?  Oh, I bet you would wish to be a fly. You'd be swimming, you'd be flying like... Yeah, assuming that flies don't have... That's the fly loves more than that smell. Yeah, assuming flies wouldn't be affected by it too much, but like since they were arguing about climate change, I kind of used that as my in to talk about climate conspiracies and whatnot and how people believe conspiracy theories. But you know, yeah, yeah, I made...  I also wanted to talk about farts, I'm not gonna lie. Jokes with health. Before we get too far off it, I would love to hear more about the COFO stuff, because I read a bit, I thought about maybe doing a video, but it would have been just more of like, hey, this happened as opposed to any real analysis. So I wanna know, Mike, what did you cover? What did you take from it, what happened? This is, I completely missed this one. Oh, you missed it. My normie friends were blow... I love having... I talk to a lot of political people and I have those group chats and I just have my normie friends and I let them have the political conversations with me because that's like, at least one of my barometers to know like, okay, this is some stuff I'm not paying attention to. And one of my normie friends was like, oh, did you see what happened in Congress right now? And I was like, oh, did you mean like Mitch McConnell stroking out? And he was like, no, I mean the aliens. And that was what I realized. Okay, let me unpolitic brain myself here. People are much more interested in the aliens. So yeah, let's go into that. Yeah, so it was a multi-hour congressional hearing about UFOs. They had the guy who took the famous video of the UFO that looked like a tic-tac. And then they had a former intelligence official, turned whistleblower, David Grush. He went viral, I wanna say in June, because he had an explosive interview with News Nation where he confirmed that the United States government actually possesses multiple alien spacecraft and they've recovered the remains, non-human biologics of the pilots. In other words, there's confirmation of aliens. He also speculated that they come from different dimensions on top of that.  And there's an actual treaty, not a, he didn't describe this as a treaty, but a sort of pact that the government made with the alien species.  The problem with this entire thing is there's been zero evidence presented. And it's based on hearsay. So people within the intelligence community confided in him about this. And that's all he has. There's no photographs. He hasn't seen the photographs of the aliens. So we're supposed to take him at his word. He didn't show anyone because he says it's a national security threat. So he's like, I can't actually show you, but you have to take my word for it. Right, right. And see, it's crazy. He can't show us the documents because it's classified, so he doesn't wanna get in trouble. But he also said that he could get murdered, or he implied he could get murdered for exposing this information because the government has murdered people to keep this secret. But I mean, there's so many questions with regard to this. Why does the government... Yeah, I mean, why does the government wanna keep this a secret? Like, it goes back to all conspiracy theories. Like, ask why?  Nothing, so it doesn't even make sense at the core level. So when it comes to aliens and stuff, if they were there, the government would absolutely want us to know because the defense industry would want to ramp up. And they're already saying, oh, this could be a threat to national security, but they'd find some way to profit off of it. So it doesn't make sense, and there's no evidence. Yeah, the threat on Earth is that we only have the Gawk Gawk 3000, but the aliens have the Gawk Gawk 4000, so we really gotta, like, that's what we'll be... Hey, Rebekah. The government's way too afraid of us finding out about that. Hi, welcome to Conversation. You came in at a great time. Yes, me. I'm like, Gawk Gawk, who, where, what, when? Now it's hard to... I'm talking about the aliens. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure, Rebekah, what is your take on, or if you follow it, because nobody else really seems to follow it, if you follow the alien conversation. I did, I do, I do. Okay, okay. No, Lance, you can go. I've seen, I heard a little bit about it, but go ahead, Lance, and then I'll come in after, since I came late, so go ahead. Oh, it's nothing exciting, just two things. One would be that, hey, most likely, mathematically, aliens do exist, but then the other part of it, and this is the really boring one, is that space is actually so incredibly vast. We don't really have a way of understanding its scale, but it's so monstrously huge that the variability to travel between one period to another, where there might be more intelligent life, would require stuff of which we don't even have the understanding of how it would work. Like, it's theoretical physics to be able to travel between dimensions or to be able to go through a wormhole and then stuff like that, so the fact that aliens would come here just to act like ghosts, just to be like, ooh, or just to make strange sounds. It doesn't really make sense. That's the part where I'm called, yeah, they have technology beyond our knowledge of how physics work. Or it crashed so frequently. I mean, they have the technology to travel all the way here, but they keep crashing.   I would assume you're smart. Why do you keep crashing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they're doing, we don't know, but I did hear about it. And I'm not one to be like, there are aliens or there aren't aliens, I don't know, I ain't never seen them, but there's creepy stuff that happen every day. There's unexplainable things that happen all the time. There are things that we see, and then we know we saw what we saw, and then it's in the new cycle for point one. Like, no, it disappears. So I know there's some weird things, and I know that the government knows about some things, and that woman who spoke out about extraterrestrial evidence and stuff like that, I just feel like if there are aliens, I don't wanna pay no more bills. I just feel like, I just feel like, I should not be paying bills, I should be struggling. Like, there's like a whole another life, take me, okay? What's that girl? During the pandemic, she made that song, Earth is ghetto, I wanna leave. Like, let me, aliens, come and get me right now. This is where... This is the best take. This is the right take. This is wrong up to this point, yeah. Aliens absolutely do exist. Like, I think it would be ridiculous to claim otherwise, being that the universe is so vast and so much we don't know. I mean, it's quite, I think egotistical for humans to be like, oh, we're definitely the only living thing. Yeah. I don't know. But, you know, whether they've been here or not, I don't think so. That's an entirely different thing. I mean, we would... Yeah. What's that meme of like, the aliens' map of Earth and it's just like an ocean with the United States in the middle? That's the kind of a thing that's like sticking behind me.  They always like get together and they like unite and it's like, leftists are like, have you seen like six leftists in the room? Like, I'm surprised we're not arguing right now. Like... Have you seen the economic system? Like it's not... This is not an economic system developed by the left. Extrapolate that to Earth. And like, we already understand how like, oh, China doesn't share in tow with us. Like Russia doesn't share in tow with us. Like, I know Oppenheimer was about a lot of like government secrecy and things like that, but definitely we would have had like a North Korean or like Russian telegram tell us that we had aliens like five years ago if we had like really gotten there. I think just statistically speaking, aliens are out there. I would just be surprised that like their car keeps breaking down in America or like in New Mexico. Also, everybody has cameras. Everybody has a phone with the camera on it. You would think like, once that happened, there'd be a lot more sitings, a lot more things.  But I think they are. And I feel like every time they are, it's as soon as it gets on anybody's internet, it's deleted and or it's like, they get like...  No, people will be, people will be having videos of like... Aliens walking around? Well, we don't know if they're aliens. I would see these videos. Where are these videos? I can't claim that the videos are true. I remember the last video was like a few months back. Somebody was saying that they... What was it? A 911 call about what they saw? And my thing was like, where was the... Oh, I remember that. I'm like, did you not think to think to put your phone? Yeah. And he's like, I'm looking at it right now. This thing looks like it's like six foot or whatever he said, how 12 foot. And I'm like, where is the... Where is... And I'm pretty sure there was and all they wanted to release, though, was the 911 call. Rebecca, did you think... Did you just... Did you just... The person has the phone.  Like, they have the phone. You know what? But maybe FBI got to them first. Men in black, they erase the memory. You know what they do. You know. With the little flashy thing that Will Smith had. They have that technology. And Matt, I just wanted to point out, I like your haircut. Oh, thank you. I appreciate it. I see you. It actually was looking pretty bad right before you came on. And I was fixing it throughout the whole show. And now it's all right. OK, you're trying to get a look. There you go. OK. I feel bad now, because I was going to... You're going to say... Rebecca, did you... Did you just discover the Bigfoot video? The way you were describing the alien. Kind of. There was this 12-foot guy just walking down. Yeah. No. I'm new to this. Like, everybody is so into the extraterrestrial. And I'm just like, just leave me out of it. If I see it, I don't...  I don't know. I don't like fear. I think I would be really, really scared if I see any weird things. I'm already scared of the dark. Like, I'm not... I ain't with all that. It's possible. When we talk about alien intelligence, like them crashing on here, I mean, it's possible that the aliens from the M Night Shyamalan movie Saans exist, where they came to a planet... It's like, what is this planet? What percentage of the planet is water? It's almost 100 resource. Right. Yeah. And these aliens were... Skid melted if it touched water. Like, you know, maybe it's...  What's the movies that do it for me? There was this one movie that had actual footage in it. And oh my god, till this day, it creeps me out. Was it the sixth sense? No, that could be not it. Oh, was it the fourth kind or something? Thank you. Thank you. That's what it was. That was a good movie. That was so scary. Yeah, good movie. It had all the scariest things you can think of for me to see. And I had nightmares. Like, is that... Because it was... The fact that I knew there was actual real footage in it mixed in with the movie, it didn't sit well with me. I was just like, see, there's things out here, people know about them, it's on video, and they only show on portions of this. You know, and... Fun fact. That movie kind of got me into UFO conspiracy theories, actually, because I was really into astronomy when I watched that.  Like, there was the Phoenix Lights. Like, remember that? That was the one that was like, oh my god, everyone's seeing it. It turns out it was like balloons or something. But yeah, I kind of went through a little bit of a phase where I was really into these conspiracies. I thought that the testimonies from pilots was interesting. But the problem is that there's never anything more than grainy footage. And sure, I believe that these pilots, they see something, they described as like, oh, it looks like a tic-tac.  You can't work backwards from the conclusion. I saw a floaty dot in the sky, so it's aliens. But I will say that if you really want to prove aliens are real, if you tell me that Mitch McConnell had a tiny alien controlling his brain, that's more compelling to me than these UFO videos that go viral all the time, because that would actually make logical sense to me. So that alien died for 20 seconds this weekend as Mitch McConnell could see these photos. This is the same thing. Mitch was on 1%, and I was like, somebody plug him up. Somebody get him from charge. Last thing I'm going to say about that is I love whistleblowers. I got nothing to respect for whistleblowers.  He's like, yeah, they could kill me if I tell you about the stuff I know and I give you the proof in the documents. God bless. I'm out. Here's the information. At Julian Assange, there's mixed opinions about him over the past 10 years, but he set up WikiLeaks and was like, yeah, no, I forget to be about it, be about it. Here's my information. Check my work, all right? Because this is a country where the history channel show Ancient Aliens has been sliding on history channel, no worries about getting renewed. It's been going for 20 seasons because this is that country and those people are speaking out right now. I'm gonna need them to Google it. I'm gonna need them to do their own research a little bit more. I'm gonna need to find some more information, honestly. I want to believe, though. I mean, what we need to do, and I said this in my video about this, get the crew back together that stormed Area 51 in 2019. Such a beautiful time. Let's Naruto run past them. Let's see the Malians. They can't shoot all of us and if we Naruto run, we can outrun their bullets. But speaking of anime, I saw a meme that Cam from H3 posted of Mitch McConnell when he was frozen and there was a picture of a Shin Megami. I don't know if you all seen Death Note. I didn't see that one yet. Okay, so it's an anime where this teenager finds a notebook and if he writes somebody's name in it, then they'll die. It's been a while since I watched it, but there's just a Shin Megami in the corner looking at Mitch McConnell implying that his name was written in the Death Note. So, yeah, there was a lot of really good memes about that and this is perhaps the first time where I didn't get that little feeling in the back of my head or in my conscience that was like, you shouldn't laugh at this. Oh, it was hilarious. I loved every second of it. The memes were fire. If he dies, let's let the memes run. Let's do it. There was a lot of, what is it, tone policing about that? People being like, hey, this is not the time to make fun of Mitch McConnell or this is not the time to laugh at what's happening.  I know what happened after that scene. He went and got the best possible healthcare someone can get.  Mitch McConnell likes his doctor and he gets to keep him because he was never playing with the Obamacare game to begin with. Like all those people who were running about oh, this is going to be a government takeover. They have government takeover insurance and they are straight. They don't want any special type of insurance.  I just know it's true. They know what's wrong with Mitch McConnell. They've been treating this for a while. This was a lapse in medication. They're going to keep him going. This is not going to be a moment where any physician is going to be like Senator McConnell, sorry Mr. McConnell that was a really rough situation. You should really slow down for your health a little bit. Or maybe what succession looks like. There's literally even the video of a reporter asking, oh Mitch McConnell do you have any succession plans going on? Once he came back to and did his stand-up interview at the podium 20 min. later and he laughs and walks away from the podium.  That's the gerontocracy we get on both sides of the elected Democrats and the elected Republicans. Get up in arms never, Joe Biden trips or something. We get upset when we see these things on the left we see these things not just with Mitch McConnell but also with Diane Feinstein.  Can we either get some age caps and that's going to be way too close to the third rail of power for either the Democrats or the Republicans for either the squad or Matt Gaetz and associates even the splinter groups within each party you can't touch that third rail because the gerontocracy is where the power is that these folks are trying to get access to whether you believe it's for good or for bad again the AOC versus Matt Gaetz method both of them were also awkwardly on the same side no no they were both asking testimony so like oh no no it's the government hiding about this shit the world needs to know it was one of those oh Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz do a nod in the distance as they're passing on trains every once in a while it happens this is because we have both political parties and the people who are in-elected in both political parties are looking at the gerontocracy and they're like I don't want to rock the boat the power is right now we're not gonna do it did you all see David Dole's video on this he's got this chart that shows you how much representation there is I know I'm hyping you up I hate that guy David Dole he put up this chart that shows you how each house in the senate is represented by different age groups and it's like 0.2 for zoomers millennials have 11.8 and then all of a sudden they're still controlling the country controlling the people hard in the paint by proxy I can share this I did not see this video yet but yeah I believe I do struggle though with this idea that it's just about age because as Dan kind of alluded to it's there are there's someone like Bernie Sanders who I think is clearly the best senator and then you have people who are younger like in Matt Gaetz who's a piece of shit is age in this video I discuss that having people disconnected or having people this old disconnects from certain issues specifically like climate change but there is something to be said is that the biggest problem when I think even if you eliminated everybody over 75 in congress we still have a situation where politics really wouldn't change like it would still be the same shit getting through it would still be the same focus just because these older people are gone it's not going to change the actual influences that are happening behind the scenes I think the people were what we see now is the same way there's no effort right I feel like maybe back in the day these boomers had some kind of effort that they put in just everyone is flying their KKK flags people really don't give a damn they're challenging people like I said last time we were on the show these are the same people that literally domestic terrorists these are the people that they're seeding when they're newer and they're younger and the boomers want those people seeded and that's the only they don't want anybody else to do anything else to try to change up anything else to literally set the house on fire if there's any changes we need to either roll it back or keep it the way it is and that's how the boomers want it and that's what these new people like Matt Gaetz and the Marjorie Taylor Greene are seeded for and I think they're similar in all these ways but there's nothing I don't think I've seen any Republican that's actually done or right now that's saying anything that makes sense the one that everybody was giving last year everybody was like oh my god she is so because she said something against Donald Trump and she's saying things now I feel like this is what we need this is the idea of bipartisanship this is what it looks like to work together and it's like she spoke up so late thank you thank you for doing what you were supposed to do but that's not to me what people we should have seeded we should trust they might fall short sometimes we might not agree with everything they do sometimes I don't agree with things that people on the left do sometimes it might be rarely there's something on the right I mean like you know what but nothing that makes me want to be like yeah shout out to them but with anybody who is a leader whether or not we agree with them or not like can we trust you and all them people on the right they are shifty as hell but they're shifty but they will definitely stand ten toes down for BS for things that hurt especially marginalized communities and that's what the boomers and the younger folks who are seeded are doing they have that in comment and if they can keep that that's what we will continue to see but those boomers will keep them seeds hot until like what we see now one percent yeah I agree with that totally to me I've never really been concerned about age because you can replace all of the Republican boomers with younger Republicans and as Rebecca said what's gonna change when it comes to policy an ideology to the extent that age is an issue it's when they're there so long that they're literally dying like Rich McConnell and Diane Feinstein but like policy wise that's not really gonna make a difference it's gonna change on the outside continuity on the inside and what we really want is an ideological change and I just don't think that age is gonna facilitate that because like as David was saying too Bernie Sanders, that dude is a thousand years old and he has the best policies in the Senate and he still operates well mentally he's not where Biden is he's not where McConnell or Feinstein is so you can't just look at the number it has to be how they're performing what their focus is what they're doing averages maybe most people over 80 aren't doing all that great in the Senate in Congress Jenner like their focus probably isn't what Bernie's focus is so Bernie is really an outlier but it's I do think it's sort of reductive to just like look at the age and think oh well then they're 80, they can't do this they must leave like it depends on who the person is right absolutely I don't want to come off as too ageist I wanna come off as ageist but not too ageist here's why I'm looking at my own family and looking at the sides and how it works I have one side of my family where in later age usually it's their physical health that goes away but mentally their sharpest attack and then I have another side of my family where it's the other way around where there's a lot of history of dementia and mental health issues like it's not their heart or their liver that kills them it's like some other random thing so there's totally you can't arbitrarily put an age all the time and go like 75 you can't drive anymore, 80 you can't drive anymore other than looking at statistics but in the specific context of politics I would I remember having this debate back in the TYT days with I'll protect the names of the Anderson Black contributors and myself regarding the Black Caucus and people like who's the brother from South Carolina who's just like Bernie's least favorite person Cliburn Cliburn, yes you have the congressional Black Caucus and there's a debate over okay well you have older folks who are there and mental acuity is not really the debate but do those older folks who are there who believe that they are there because of the civil rights struggle and all these other different movements they have worked through are they really using that age or being aware of their age to realize that now is the time to pass at the time particularly what I mean is that with age and why I still like in a political sense don't I could be convinced on the side of age caps is with age comes history, experience and power leverage directly against incumbent movements either within a party or outside of a party to keep them out of power the reason Nancy Pelosi keeps having so much attention is because not exclusively because of her age but because she's been in the house for so long she has such an ability to fundraise and she has so many connections within the tendrils of the Democratic Party as a machine but also the tendrils that make it work who are the big donors the big funders oftentimes in Northern California in San Francisco where she's based but just whoever you say the Pelosi name to a certain type of wallet and that number rings you can kind of get those connections by being the younger person who Pelosi who is ultimately replaced by Pelosi but you truly it's like starting a game out where you get to start at age 35 and you're playing against a two-year-old you're just always gonna win that game because no matter how much the two-year-old gets to you even if the two-year-old gets your spot you're gonna know some stuff they don't and so i think we should encourage whether it's through term limits or whether it's through norms i think it's through term limits but we should encourage the idea of okay if you're getting up there in age and you're in politics and you're feeling all that good shit about yourself have a plan to pass that on on that knowledge i'm talking very much what are the reasons why i thought that chart that David showed was striking though it was not so much this is completely 100% at age it's how little representation younger generations actually have in politics Gen Z it's non-existent and for millennials it's barely a crumb of the entire thing Gen Z there's just Maxwell Frost that's the only a Gen Z Republican is different from a Gen Z leftist just like a Gen Z leftist is different from a millennial leftist or progressive is different from a Gen X or Boomer liberal all of these things and all these gradations it's not exclusively age so i don't want to make a rigid sort of thing but it's undeniable that with different generations there's different experiences there's living your generation in the shadow of another generation and these things in a supposedly representative democracy in a supposed body politic that we're trying to salvage these are things we have to hold with some sort of credence and actually fight for to make sure that we don't lose those nuances because it's very easy for the media, just for people at large to narrow this down mm-hmm i was hoping that we could talk about the internet bill that is circulating congress there's been a big push for it let me share my screen actually hang on a second i can give you one second so i want to draw some attention to this because it's apparently picking up steam in congress and i don't think a lot of people know about this it's one of those things where it sounds good on paper in practice it's going to be a disaster Mike's very worried about this bill because it requires streamers to share their screen under a certain amount of time and he's worried yes it's like the fast track tolls if you don't do it on the right time you get fined more with these bills they always try to make them sound all like oh this is going to be great we're going to pass the internet bill it's going to make everything better and it's never that it's always the language that you know whether it's through the name or whatever it is and you look into it slightly it's not what it claims to be yeah exactly no that's it so fight for the future they are the organization that organized against net neutrality so they're taking action between the 20th and 28th almost over but there's a bunch of really bad bills that are circulating through congress so there's the urnit act cosa age gating bills restrict act stop seesam kuper davis so if you go to badinternetbills.com you can get the skinny on all of these i want to fixate on cosa in particular because that one is really insidious so basically there is this effort to mitigate the harms of social media on young people and there's been bans proposed this one isn't necessarily a ban but the goal is to limit what kids see online that could be damaging like an example that's cited is anything that could influence a young teen girl to get a an eating disorder for example of course you don't want them to see that kind of information but the solution here is going to be terrible and actually have damaging effects for queer youth so i'm just going to read a couple of paragraphs just so you all kind of get the gist of it but so this is from teen vogue right now there are a handful of bills being rushed through congress in the 11th hour before august recess that could permanently damage the ability of a03 this is a website that they're referring to for young people to reach its audience so the main threat is the kids online safety act cosa it does have the support of celebrities like Lizzo and there's other celebrities that support it too but i think she's the biggest one and the reason why they're supporting it is because it sounds like a great idea on paper so framed as protecting children cosa creates a duty of care that requires apps and websites to prevent and mitigate harms to children like anxiety and depression their products might cause if the app or website doesn't take steps to mitigate those harms usually through removing content it can be held liable so this is kind of a loophole to the section 230 stuff but anyways protecting children from harmful content with big tech taking the full taking the fall may sound great until you consider who will have the power to decide what content is harmful and this is kind of the catch 22 part so cosa authorizes state attorneys general to be the ultimate arbiters of what is good or bad for kids if a state attorney general asserts information about gender firming care or abortion care could cause a child depression or anxiety they could sue an app or website for not moving that content so to prevent that liability the app or website could proactively remove content that a conservative attorney general might think is bad for kids but a lot of attorneys general think legitimate content is bad for kids so this author says I live in Texas where our attorney general Ken Paxton has called gender firming care for a trans youth child abuse some Texas lawmakers want to make it illegal for abortion funds to have websites the school district I grew up in is currently under investigation by the ACLU for discriminating against trans students so basically this would restrict access not just for kids but it's kind of a slippery slope it would affect websites for adults but the most vulnerable community is LGBTQ plus youth who would lose access to certain forums and communities that actually give them confidence that have been proven that there's better outcomes so for example they link to this there's a whole section that acknowledges that LGBTQ plus youth actually have better outcomes when they have access to social media and online communities and so this is kind of like another you could think back to SOPA there's a more recent example as FOSTA and SESTA as well where the goal is to you know it's to do a good thing prevent sex trafficking, help survivors but it does the opposite so I just wanted to draw everyone's attention to that so Fight for the Future has a petition that you can sign if you go to bedinternetbills.com and really the goal right now because these are kind of going through the senate there was just a hearing on it today and they're trying to pass this quickly and if you don't make noise then they're going to do it now thankfully Ed Markey and Maria Cantwell these are the first two senators to actually say hey we're hearing concerns from the LGBTQ plus community about how this can actually be damaging to queer youth so there's at least some people in congress like sounding the alarm but a lot of them just don't know so like Bernie Sanders for example like I don't think he would support this if he knew what it entailed and he got supported foster incesta as did Elizabeth Warren and so if we don't reach them if we don't sound the alarm and get in their ear they're going to support this because it sounds really good on paper who doesn't want to protect young girls from information about eating disorders that could cause them to develop that but this is going to do more harm than good it's censorship so just be sure that if you can contact your senator and let them know that you're in bad internet bills and also follow Evan Greer on Twitter because they have a lot of really good resources they're the organizer here yeah just wanted to put that out there because this is going to be one of those situations where I feel like if there's enough backlash then they're going to try to sneak this into some sort of a fucking appropriations bill we know how this works so just be aware that this is something that they're pushing the Biden administration is pushing this I believe as well and it's bad it would do a lot of harm so so what what you're saying is this has some things that will definitely hurt LGBTQIA plus teens and younger people and so how they're putting it out there is under the guise of something that will help everyone and so people like Lizzo who have huge communities of people are pushing it because they believe this is going to be something that helps so you're saying like maybe if we get enough people to who are empowered to get their eyes on it they can adjust it to make it make sense for everyone exactly because this is one of those instances where and I talked about this a couple of months with regard to Lizzo she's a very good person she's one of the few celebrities who I think is very moral and cares but the way that this was initially pitched was about eating disorders which is actually a really big problem on social media for young girls along with depression and whatnot so on paper it makes a lot of sense but the problem is that if you want to protect kids online this is like the worst way to do it because you're essentially handing an attorney's general a blank check to just censor any and everything that they don't like so that can include you know abortion content, LGBTQ plus youth content and the reason why the organizations groups are particularly concerned is because like when it comes to LGBTQ plus youth if you can't come out to your parents then you need these resources online like for example when I was the teenager I was looking for communities online to question my own sexuality and if that were taken away from me it would have been really detrimental because you need to be able to talk to other people if you can't talk to them in real life and so that's why a lot of queer youth is on Twitter or on I forgot the name of the other Tumblr or whatever and so this is just going to basically empower the worst people to do really bad things and so if they want to protect kids online then just this is like the worst way that they can do it so there's been suggestions for example I think from Ed Markey to try to change the language of the bill but it still isn't sufficient like the bill essentially needs to be scrapped and there needs to be some other way because I think that kids do need to be protected from the harms of social media somehow I don't know if you can do this at the state or federal level I think this might just be a parents thing perhaps information campaigns but to give attorneys general the ability to hold websites legally liable it kind of subverts the whole concept of section 230 and so it's just a really dangerous thing to open the door to and again I don't want to fault anyone for thinking that this is a good thing who doesn't want to protect children but we've passed some terrible laws under the guise of protecting children so just don't fall for it and this is certainly one of these bills where you want to make sure that you're pretty savvy pull this tweet up on the screen this is the heritage foundation openly saying they're going to use this bill to go after LGBTQ kids this is quite clearly that's what they want this because they know what it's going to do when you pull it up you could read it while it's on the screen for everybody or I could read it basically one user basically screenshot the heritage foundation openly stating in a piece on the American conservative that they're going to use this to attack trans content posing a risk to social contagion which is obviously not true that's the right whole framing of this stuff that's a social contagion which is obviously not true and then the heritage foundation even replies to this person calling out the article that quotes them and says yeah that's what we're going to do because if a child is protecting kids no child should be conditioned to think that permanently damaging I'm not going to read their whole framing of it because it's bullshit framing but they are openly saying they're going to use this to go after LGBTQ content yeah I mean I'm glad that you found that map because they're broadcasting what they want to do already but there's other bills too about age gating material some red states have basically banned porn for young people and the way that they do this is by getting adults to put in their IDs so it's about the kids but really this is a violation of privacy and putting your ID into these websites that's not something you want to do if you're putting your information on the computer you want it to be secure and there are ways to protect children and to reduce access to pornographic content and the porn websites for example here's some things you can do there's recommendations but these lawmakers are ignoring all of it because they very clearly have an agenda it's motivated by nefarious purposes they use kids to draw you in because that'll work because we all care about protecting children it affects all of us badinternetbills.com follow all of these especially COSA because that's the one right now that they're considering if you come across something that is branded as protecting kids or save the children 90% of the time it's bullshit and they're coming after they're having nefarious plans just like whenever you hear about a nice non-profit organization that's called like Focus on the Family or the Family Agenda I don't know anything is the word family usually it's usually some nefarious conservative right wing organization it's always bullshit and that lady who's always singing in the other right and you know this thing this is not giving me what I thought it was and cars for kids why are we giving cars to kids kids should not be driving it's a scam it's always a scam where is that money always where is that money even going it's all a scam but thank you for bringing that to our attention and you said what was that website again badinternetbills.com yeah thank you shout out to Ron Placone who put this on my radar and he's doing this whole visibility week from fight for the future and bad internet bills he kind of put this on my radar and I'm like okay yes I will share this I've talked about COSA before but this is the time to make noise when people are Ron Placone we don't always agree on everything but he's a good guy he's another Jimmy Dore refugee yeah he's a very good guy him and I actually are very close friends still and you know bit of you know awkwardness during the whole my beef with Jimmy Dore and stuff like that but yeah we're kind of I think we're past that I'm sure he knew the whole fucking time what was going on I don't know there was one point where Jimmy would decide to not host his own show on TYT he would just not show up and so Ron Placone would be our middle ground Jimmy likes Ron competently host for an hour and a half and so like he was all good and there was one point where I was going oh I don't know like the commenters hate me like I'm not Jimmy I don't know if I would be Jimmy and I had to take him aside for a moment and I would just go Ron you're a better host trust me on this trust me on this you're better at hosting a program than Jimmy Dore and then he gave me three shots of vodka and he was great absolutely that's funny in this house we more or less like Ron yeah yeah he's also got cats I told him too he wouldn't ever admit this on air but I think he knows it's true as well that once he left the Jimmy Dore show got exponentially less funny and that's because Ron he wrote the best Jimmy Dore jokes and it didn't really click with me cause I used to think Jimmy Dore was funny and it's like this motherfucker has nothing get out of here get out of here but it was Ron Placone who was writing the funny jokes even before he made his full blown turn that man was never funny get out of here he was just drunk I can either confirm nor deny everyone while they're talking has moments I'm sure people have even thought I'm funny when I'm definitely not funny so I'll give it that but no Ron Placone is very talented I highly recommend checking it out everybody ain't funny people on the internet will gas people up to be like they're funny but you're really there to joke but any who you know what's a joke that I've seen on my radar the fact that in Florida Ron DeSantis is saying that slaves benefited people benefited because I didn't want to miss that and that's happening it's real, it's a thing in his defense one side of my family's last name are fishers where they learn how to fish see don't be startin because everybody on the internet ain't funny Don't call me Dan from the internet You just really own Dan big time Big time Ron DeSantis defending the new Florida curriculum that he created or wants to put in place He was speaking in an event to reporters at Utah where he defended a new set of academic standards in his state Florida značili odmah nalistit u što je učinit dati zvoniti ljudi, ispravili ljudi, koji u nekog odmah ne pijekne za prvom učiniljemu. Zavujemo da, da se sve ovak učinili, se otvarili sve, ne i sve, a kajli kako se bilo, neko se brane, neko se, skošili, neko se značili. Znači, koji se bila, da je da je tako, ljudi, da su vruba i tato čilje. su svoj prijev, su državnih. Stavljano se očinno se dobro što se načinno zavljuče, da se se bilo ovo da je ovo. Kako se da je to zavljuča, da se načinno se dobro što se zavljuče, da se da je to zavljuče. Zavljno se to ne bo, da se zavljuče. To je što Ron Desantis zavljuče. To je i kajšin.Whatever he says goes. And so if he said that slaves benefited, er enslave people benefited from slavery because they learned things, this is it. But they do not want to put in the books about the torture. What happened to enslave people when enslave people were free. What happened them. Whose blood was on the hands of white folks. They don't want to say any of those things. How whole communities were bombed. Oni tako nema sve važne poč correre. Oni nema to dobrodoš arrangeda, se svaše, počuča i pnitru. Oni nem Jupiteri nema vrločilje, boju nam je dobrodu sve generace. Oni nema uzsledo načinje. Oni nema uzsledan da se najšašnico. Oni nema načinje nema vrločiju, nema učin. nema izgleda. A nema spodnati, što vidim, vidim u ljudi Florida. Samo, If I ever had to learn that, if I ever, if that was put into my head as a young child already a product of immigrants and that would be put in my head that people, Haitians are allergic to slavery, OK, if you guys don't know that already, I am a product of Haitian immigrants. If that was put into my head and I brought that to my daddy, he would literally uproot us from Florida and take us somewhere else because that's not a teaching that you want your black child to be taught. They don't even want them to read about the positives or anything else, like how Ruby Bridges desegregated this, you know, they don't want that, they don't want that story in there, but they want to talk about, they want to just give lies. I wouldn't surprise me if exactly what you said isn't the end goal on a broader level. I mean, Florida is already doing that to families with trans kids basically uprooting their lives and forcing them to leave. Wouldn't surprise me if the end goal is that get any sort of marginalized group that Ron DeSantis views as woke out of the state. I think he doubled and tripled down when he was being interviewed about this. He was like, oh, well, I'm just saying, what if someone became a blacksmith or something? And then what? Do you think there was a retirement age for slaves? Do you think at a certain point they're like, oh, now to use these skills that I've learned thanks to the plantation owners or whatever. And this is, by the way, on the heels of him doing that ad this week, by the way, he was this week or the week before when that actual fascist commercial came out. What about all the slaves who died before the end of slavery? Even going by his thinking process. A lot of people died before they got to that point where they could use their skills. They already had skills where they were. That's what helped them live. That's how they grow their resources. They already had skills. They were already living lives before they were taken and brought here. The logic is so dumb.  And this is how they gave us Thanksgiving too. I mean, we celebrate Thanksgiving. We didn't know what the real meaning or what was behind it or how abusive and bloody it was to Native American. We didn't know any of this. Look how they taught us that. And we've just been walking around here celebrating while people are suffering and hurting as we celebrate. I can't stand behind this. I know a lot of us can't. But just knowing that this is Ron DeSantis. This man is very powerful right now. And a lot of people follow and eat everything he says. It's dumb. There is nothing that can prove his point for real. It hurts people. It's very abusive. It's misinformation. But there are so many people who just, as long as it's coming from a Republican who can possibly be their leader, this is Bible to them. This is evangelical word. This is what they will abide by.  Some people that follow them have huge platforms on TikTok on whatever. And they will push these talking points. And this is how people will look at black folks. And if I say how I'm a marginalized person, they're going to say, Well, you benefited from being here because your people wouldn't have. And it's just like, now I got to fight in the streets. Now I got to fight Sally and everybody at Target. And I don't want to do that. But it's causing more division. It'll cause more division and those kind of things. It's genuinely sickening. This is the quintessential example of whitewashing American history. Ron DeSantis, he may be losing in the presidential election, but he's still more so perhaps than any other governor in the country, is able to lower the bar. Things that were not touchable by the GOP because they would be nuclear. You don't want to go here. He went there and he got it to be acceptable. I mean, this is the same person who got the Democratic Party voters, at least according to one poll, to support the Don't Say Gable. So him doing this, he is able to market this in a way to make it acceptable. And once you open the door to saying, oh, well, you know, there were some quote-unquote benefits to slavery, what else will you be willing to believe? It's just the beginning. I mean, and again, remember earlier this year, he banned an African-American AP studies course, too. So it's sickening, but at the same time, the fact that none of us are shocked by this probably is also what makes it really bad because that's where we're at. Yeah, it's on Branford for him, because he has been attacking education in Florida, you know, in his state, and he's making sure that he goes first for how Black people are seen and are represented here in America and how their history is represented. That's what he's going for first and also how White people are viewed in America and to uphold the lies. And, you know, the values of White folks and how they have made America what it is, you know, by the bootstraps. You know, America, the great, all the America, the beautiful. It's that make America great on steroids logic that he's pushing, and it's to push out anything that has to do with Black people asking for reparations or telling their story.  We get it, like, how they want to talk about, you know how they, when you were in school, what you learned was probably Martin Luther King and how, you know, we aren't seen by the color of our skin. That whole thing, that's all you learned. But there was so much more to Martin Luther King and his story, but they couldn't give you all that.  And if they showed any of his other talking points or any of his other speeches, it would go beyond how white people wanted to paint him for us. I learned Martin Luther King from how they taught me in school. But then I went to Florida A&M University, the number one HBCU in the nation. Oh, and baby, they taught me. They taught me. They had me read that book called The Lies My Teacher Told Me by Zimmerman, and it refreshed my mind. It told me everything I needed to know and how I was taught things to suppress and to minimize how people who look like me and their history in this country. So, yeah. I just gotta say, I totally relate to that. When you were mentioning how Florida is protecting all these different aspects of white patriarchy, white supremacy, et cetera, harkn back to this explicit bill, when the first ones were on the Santas pass to get on the map this cycle, to say that anything that could possibly... Basically, it was targeting white fragility. It's like we on the left recall. Anything that could possibly cause a white student to feel uncomfortable because they feel guilty for what they're being taught or whatever. It's just not allowed to be in the classroom. You're discouraging it from the classroom. And even I consider myself relatively lucky, gotten to the Californian side of the educational system. But the only reason I learned about the reason why California has the gun laws that Republicans complain about all the time is because Ronald Reagan was afraid of the fact the Black Panthers were using those gun laws to protest at the Capitol. If it wasn't from the fact that my parents were from Oakland and so the Black Panthers is just something we talked about at home, because that wasn't taught in schools. But knowing that history and knowing that Republican hero Ronald Reagan passed the assault weapons ban in California because of the Black Panthers and the threat of the Black Panthers protesting for their guns, when white folks in the Klan protesting with their guns down in Orange County was A-OK for every governor up to and including Ronald Reagan, that is history that unlocks things for people and goes back to why they don't want to teach it. That's why they won't even teach it in California Public Schools.  There's so many of these moments in American history that pretty much the only conclusion to go to is like, yeah, you know, America you can make it better, you can make it here, you can make it anywhere, you can get rich pretty quickly. It's a melting pot. On the backs of a lot of blood and there continues to be a lot of blood. Yeah. It's like you were saying, Rebecca, earlier, if you don't massage and create a public that is sort of okay with that, if you don't create this layers that folks like us who are trying to break through that have to fight through these, like the foundation that's being made by laws in Florida and even you have the college board which is supposed to be a capital L liberal like organization changing their African-American studies course that is taught to high school students across the country to make sure it complies with Florida's laws because at the end of the day they're a business. Like this has ripple effects for the entire country for what we know and we can't undo that kind of purposeful systemic like state-led top-down learning and so it's really important to highlight.  Yeah. He has no chance. Yeah, I see that. Trump can take this exact same framework. Yeah. And you know it's capable and he's going to just stamp and said he came up with the first. You know he's like soldier boy, he did it first. That's what he likes to do. He likes to say that often. I think that's the first time anyone's ever said Trump is like soldier boy. He sent it so long. He always says he did it, he did it first. Never forget Trump said he invented priming the pump as in like the John Maynard Keynes thing from the 1930s. He's like priming the pump. I came up with by the way. I was like Let your nuts hang Mr. Trump. Let's go. But it's real scary but it's people down there are not calling it the Santa's County anymore. They're calling it the Santa's Country. These are the type of people who will for the next four years believe that he will be president. They'll move in that, they'll walk in that. There are some even people in the education system who love that he is doing this because they think that it's better to not be so harsh on the children. Showing children different types of movies or different types of teachings, having them read books that mention slavery in a way where it puts their grandparents, their uncles, their aunts with highlights and has kids going home saying now mama was this us that we do this and it's like a lot of parents are offended by that but we have to talk about if no we should I want to say we have to but they're not but we should be talking about this because we're going to talk about America and we're going to talk about all of its layers we have to talk about the real history and we have to mention that so if we don't mention that how can we ever get to at least somewhere where we can be together in that white people and black folks standing together in that Martin Luther King way that white folks want us to be we can't get there if we're not telling the truth it's just nothing but lies and now we are we have platforms where we can you know we can come on and tell our own stories and I don't I want it to be for our education system to at least it's like we're going back in time every time we reach somewhere at least I had something I didn't have enough, I didn't have much but we had Martin Luther King's teaching they weren't going to teach us about Malcolm X but they were going to teach us about the parks you know they weren't going to teach us about all these other people who they considered to be radical like Billy Holiday they didn't want to really go in to what the story was with Billy Holiday they were just going to say she was a black jazz singer they don't want us to know exactly their history or how America played a part in attacking them and literally the feds watching them making sure they put fear into them they don't want us to know any of these things they don't want us to look at the black panthers I've always thought they were bad people when I was younger they were terrible, they didn't do anything for the community because that's what I was taught to believe but in reality right, they were feeding people in communities and children and making sure everybody was okay and teaching people how to protect themselves from the abuse of what was going on with law enforcement with the government they were stepping in when America was not there's a lot of teaching that they don't want to teach us but at least don't take away what they have already now you're saying you're literally lying you're saying that they benefited and as if they were feral people that you guys picked up in a country with didn't have any knowledge and that's what I don't like they didn't have any talent or task or things that they already knew how to do they already knew how to do these things that's why I went and got them wrong, resourceful all of that because y'all couldn't do it yourself over here that's why y'all had black women feeding your children okay make it make sense so it was you that benefited from slaves it was your property that was well kept up from slaves it was your household that stayed together from slaves it was your business that wasn't even your business idea that was created by slaves enslaved people stop playing it's a lot there's one defense that I saw someone make of the policy well let's take the example of Frederick Douglass if it wasn't for Frederick Douglass' slave masters mistress Frederick Douglass went and learned how to read and I'm like oh wow damn that's brazi the only way to learn how to read back in the 19th century was to get a slave masters mistress to do so you couldn't just be freed and not face like getting beaten or whipped to death all the time and just learn how to re-read and even if you read Frederick Douglass' own writings on this it wasn't the mistress teaching him the ABCs that went like oh I'm going to be a black intellectual I'm going to go to Europe and back and learn all these different things it was the fact that when the master found out the mistress was about to be punished and he was about to be punished because something along the lines of the master saying the reason we don't want black people to be informed which resonates very much right now in the context of these book bands because it's not just black people, it's just everyone the reason we don't want these people that we are enslaved to be informed and when they can read and when they can gain knowledge of their existence in their system they'll want out of it then our power will be gone then they will seek power then they will seek well they will seek material benefits for themselves and that means I have to give away something that means my power structure that I have built my entire existence on crumbles so that's why we have to keep them dumb and not teach that full history but don't go slavery was some bad people were weird but they learned some great songs and look, they're all rappers today so it's all good and we own them even over there we own the rappers but look because of us they are what they are but it's like they want credit for every damn thing and we take credit for that but no, they will not how about when you the Tulsa Oklahoma people you guys literally destroyed a community for what? for what reason and that wasn't even so long ago there are people who are still living from that who lost family members lost their homes were displaced and America does not want to deal with that history America doesn't want to talk about it who was the school official that didn't want to use the word race when teaching about black history and then somebody asked him how do you teach about the Tulsa race massacre how do you teach history without using that word and I can't remember what he said specifically but the defense was just yeah sounds fun it sounds it's more like it's like it's softer we popped in town for a second didn't like what we saw bad, one of the few black communities that had built wealth for themselves was gone plus everyone loves a new start they just needed this some of those people this my family members who were in Tulsa Oklahoma my family, we don't talk about this history because I don't know about anyone else but you get to a certain point we just don't talk about that it's around the same time that meets up everyone just wants an opportunity to start fresh they got to move out to California that is the direction it's going to it's great content it's very dark way for us now we have to fight against that dumbasses in chat going didn't they get a nice vacation some people went to California to Tulsa Oklahoma there was a Tulsa Oklahoma in California if you talk about oh well they went to Florida there was a Tulsa Oklahoma situation in Florida every single state right multiple everywhere has had this where there was an uprising of white folks inside of just because they didn't want them around black folks went and created their own communities and that still wasn't enough it still wasn't enough they did not want them winning at all it would always be that and that's what we're fighting against it's not that oh my gosh we just hate all white people or whatever the case may be we're sitting here on this programming some of my best friends it's not that we hate all white people but the conversation needs to be had so talk to your fellow friends so you know everybody else talk to them because I'm sick of it also to Rebecca to your point the only people who should be offended by teaching that white supremacy is bad is white supremacists why would anyone take insult to any of this i don't care what people are offended by these conversations you're right it's just history to be offended by would assume that you are in favor of such things why else would you be bothered by these discussions yeah they get bothered oh my god why are we talking about this i'm not even my mom or my dad see this is what we're just talking about let's help to push the conversation of basically this is not facts and we should do something about it make sure that we're helping in our communities if you are an educator fighting for that don't just be like that's not my fault we're not saying it's your fault it's not but you have the ability in an upper hand over us who would want to tell our own stories so if you want to be an ally that's how you can be an ally but we'll see how this goes i wanna see what comes of it we already know that people are fighting against it i know Kamala Harris had spoken up about it so i wanna see what definitely comes of this it sucks but you know how it is in florida when something happens in florida texas wanna do the same thing lin georgia wants to hop on the bandwagon and we'll see that ripple effect but we'll see how that goes you wanna know one thing that i'll just say it really fast i have no hope in florida's government but i have family from florida i know regular ass people from florida who don't speak up loudly enough floridians are better than this that's my people yeah byron donalds actually came out and condemned it and he's defended ronda santis before a lot but he condemned it and i saw matt walsh attacking him because he was using Kamala Harris talking points to condemn this which is i mean fucking wild but yeah it's so Orwellian what frustrates me is that these are the people who say that anything that the left does is Orwellian like this is textbook orwell bullshit you're banning the books you're banning the books you're the one saying slavery is good go fuck yourselves nobody should be outraged about this unless there are white supremacists the person who i banned who was getting triggered in the chat i used to see this these kind of argumentations maybe there was a benefit to slavery you would only see that in stormfront weird revisionist history did you know that it was black people who sold slaves to other white people you would only see that in white supremacist corners of the internet and now it's becoming part of the curriculum it's becoming something you're supposed to standardize that's fucked up we're trying to raise apparently a whole generation of white supremacist and if we don't take action it's gonna get worse so that's why the education system in florida is what he's going after because he's planting these seeds now hoping that they will grow into little white supremacist trees and it's working that's the horrifying part not white supremacist trees i don't like what they do with those trees i don't know fair point i'm sorry i have so much fun with y'all but i do have to run plug yourself i do too many things i do the audio face music podcast i do power report which is another fun show panel show on thursdays i'm gonna move the times we need to spread the love here all the links are at danfromtheinter.net that's just danfromtheinter.net one of the smart things i did was getting that URL but you can find me on all the places there twitter, instagram threads youtube.com and again thank you all for having me i've been fans of all of y'alls it's nice meeting you so it's really really and you're supportive on there so really really nice meeting you yes i had so much fun having you dan, you have to come back peace y'all bye i know what's my time to 10.34 we're about done anyways we actually left right at the time sorry guys i gotta peace out at the end of the show right yeah well i did the show for most people i'll probably be here for another three hours oh god we're not these guys are doing five hour shows now let me be on here for hours i'm like i'm sleep i feel it's the people pay i feel like we gotta give them what they want and that's the thing gang gang i scream so good i scream oh no i gotta be up in the morning see that's why i was late today and i take this all the time on my own show once i am free where i can do it and i don't have to have a corporate job anymore than i could be on for another 30 minutes but three hours buddy that's y'all so go support rebecca that way she can do this all the time and stay what's 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stream my brain and matt's brain was mush we were saying the opposite of what we meant i don't know why people were still trying to engage with us then they were then my girlfriend was like girl i had it on the background and she said she looked over and you guys were still talking i was like wait what i was like yes girl oley said she noticed we were still on and she was about to report the channel this is against the tos i think so it's honestly psychotic because like i would tune into like matt bender streams and then i come back hours later after cleaning and eating and i'm like he's still going and now i'm doing that same thing and it's a disease it's a bender effect it's the bender disease i can't help it i'm a sucker for the people on my show people call in via skype so they're calling in and i'm like oh i just want more call and then that call ends and there's like i see 20 new calls pop up and i'm like oh i feel so bad let me take one more and then just spirals out of control and before you know it's two in the morning and i'm not even making sense anymore and then i really gotta go i gotta be up and give these people i'm in slaves over there no seriously i gotta be up in the morning and be at the job and i like to what i do in the morning i have to be up early so i can at least get my run in i run every morning and that helps me get ready to be under corporate reign so i love you guys i hope that you guys enjoy the rest of your night and i will see you guys next Thursday take care bye everybody i should let you all know that i actually i will not be here next Thursday i will be on vacation with a family event with my family obviously vacation i'll leave my stream information for my chat room live chat usual to still be in the chat so the video will be on there but i will sadly not be me and mike will be taking all your super chats next week so i am looking forward to it that's the joy enjoy folks, like i said the channel will still be streaming it so feel free to not do them anything but we're not gonna answer any of his questions so don't waste your time you know exactly what they're gonna do david, it will be non stop like matt mender super chats when he's gone don't say that, you'll bring it into reality i know, i know, i shouldn't i will say as well, if i bowed early, but whenever that happens last week, when i did that on friday morning i did a live stream and i answered all the super chats i missed even though you guys probably read them as well but i'll do the same thing this time so if i miss anything, tomorrow morning tomorrow sometime but i will do a live stream and i will answer chats all the ones i missed there you go, still support still support me, i'll answer you don't worry alright i guess i'm leading it let me pull it up drop your super chats wherever channel you want feel free and reminder that david's channel is youtube.com youtube.com youtube.com youtube.com the rational national there you go alright, let's do it so, we got dynamic editor earlier mike thompson is, this is me, mike thompson with a $5 super chat says thanks guys, you're doing great thank you mike for your support follow along people that one is me, psycho form with $5 i just pulled it up, im sorry i wonder what the government is trying to distract us from with these hearings on aliens basically the fact that we are in apocalyptic hellscape and we're boiling the ocean and just not doing shit about it i think that's probably part of it maybe the aliens will save us that's what we should hope for or you know what, if they put us out of our misery quicker im fine with that too which death is better than a slow death sorry, not to be too grim the synapsis with a super chat, just in case i miss xchat due to work i love that only the twitter main page was rebranded the about page is all about twitter oh, the entirety of so much of that site the search bar still says search twitter also, i found this really funny i took a screenshot give me one second to pull it up it was the brand page of twitter is really funny it says something like mike just dropped out i hope mike is okay the brand page of twitter i'll forget the screenshot i'll just pull it up on here you also got hosting ability if you you can share your screen or tap or whatever if you want did they take it down i think they finally did take it down yeah, it's now i would not bear interesting hmm but there was a oh, here we go i found a pf that still goes here it's a brand guidelines for twitter and it says on page after like the header page on the first page of the details the basics our logo is our most recognizable asset that's why we love it our protective of it and ask you follow the rules when you use it talking about the twitter logo of course the bluebird their most important asset but i guess not anymore this is it's at me but this is not given to me did you get this? i'll just read it at david, thank you for reporting on food not bombs yeah, that's right i covered that earlier this week in case you didn't follow that story they have groups everywhere but this particular group they were getting what's it called fined or ticketed for feeding the homeless and it's because they're feeding the homeless in front of the library and my guess is because the mayor didn't want the homeless problem that i guess he's not dealing with housing as one solution but the homeless problem he doesn't want that in front of the city hall but regardless this group feeding the homeless getting ticketed and it's like thousands of dollars and they're in the process of fighting it this is happening a lot over the years this isn't a one time thing the police are constantly targeting food not bombs and finding them for the crime of feeding people who need food it's amazing in a bad way it's not me Mike's not saying that he's not i'm not sure what's going on with him he just dropped out off the grid he didn't look like anything no it just like cut out i'm guessing his power went out but i thought his phone would still work i don't know the aliens he said a little too much that's what happened i guess we could just read his Mike Thompson for $5 says when musk was still with PayPal they rejected his branding because it sounded too much like a porn site that was actually they did a focus group with people the board choosing that they actually did focus groups and people potential customers and clients were against the name because they thought it was sounding like a porn site to give you an idea of just how you know on the oh my god he's back Mike how'd you escape the aliens you got abducted my entire shit crashed and now my i got to fix my audio i think you have the wrong mic you use a mac or pc a mac okay wrong mic 2 let me fix that there you go okay i don't know what the fuck happened everything came crashing down but we're back i think mike just send the superchat we read it in the answer already i appreciate that what mics do you both use what microphones do you both use i don't know why i just thought of it now it's the best in my opinion i can't hear you both did i do something yes you did can you hear me david i can hear you that's weird okay the aliens are really what the fuck my airpods just disconnected bro it's the aliens it's the aliens what microphones do you guys use sure sm7b okay and you two mike same one yes it's the best one i don't know if you heard that i have the other popular one the re20 this one is way better i like how this sounds i have the one below it the sm mv7 is it like a usb and xlr one okay yeah they call it the smb7 it's like little brother nice i'm not sure who this is for yeah this one is for me marie bishop with two dollars can i get a shout out for my 30th birthday tomorrow marie happy dirty 30 you're so close to ole with birthday happy birthday hope you have fun treat yourself to something have a great day kowalski with a 199 super chat says i'm in team dark mode the correct option i agree i prefer not being blinded in the middle of the night or not middle of the night really it's more like in the morning when i check my phone and i decide to i mean i don't really go on twitter in the morning anymore really so i guess it doesn't matter now i can switch it back to white if i want but no it's still i jump in there at the time of my eyes aren't ready i prefer to be in dark mode for sure one of you this is obviously me archangel with a $10 super chat $10 met i love listening to you on the fun half of the majority report when Emma is hosting you and Brandon have the funniest commentary especially Brandon his comment about slave plantations was amazing i recall what you're talking about for exactly what he said it was i recall it being funny we gotta get both Emma and Brandon on this show maybe we'll get them both on at the same time and maybe you guys can leave and then we'll just just do the majority report times 2 on the same date this one is for me from Tyler Michael thank you Mike i've been trying to explain to people how dark mode hurts my eyes because of my astigmatism and everyone tries to tell me that dark mode is better for everyone that i'm not alone yes absolutely for me the white text absolutely hurts my eyes and for those of you who don't know what astigmatism is is when you look at street lights for example they're like starbursts you can see streaks in your vision and so i kind of get that in a sense with the white text but it's not as bad but it hurts my eyes because i stared it too long so yeah i gotta have the white background with the black text always it depends though the dim mode on twitter isn't as bad where it's not completely pitch black but that really like stark difference it does hurt my eyes for sure for me see diginimer with a super chat elon should have called it why as in why am i still on this site and then the classic elon musk i hate that he took that emoji because i like that emoji he didn't take that emoji, fuck him that's an emoji that exists apart from elon musk to me the thing that killed that emoji wasn't elon musk it was the tweet that said when someone posts that emoji they're madder than they've ever been before have you seen that one it's like a fake one of those infamous tweets i can see that, that makes sense who's this for i think it's for matt, no? it's about me, oh wait, it is for me that's weird matt, clearmont with a super chat beard is looking very neat and trim and i hate it it is looking very neat, everything's looking neat today i'm going to a wedding next week for a family member so i thought let me do everything now and when i go next week it'll have grown back into its disheveled looking good form so you all get the neat ugly matt bender so i look disheveled and better looking for my cousin well thank you that's fair you're correct, i don't look the neat style does not fit me i'm sorry, i know people think oh matt, you should just brush your hair no, you don't want to see that it's not a good look mary joe with a $25 super chat see if my applause works, i feel like it wasn't do you hear that? yes i had a weird audio thing when i connected earlier, but anyways it's working, so mary joe, thank you says, was so pleased to see dan will be on the show, he is so smart and funny i've given up on TYT, but i'm glad they led me to finding all five of you even matt after Emma started there you go silver linings absolutely me as well a political idealist says matt guzzels gas and nyc, be better, use transit that came up a couple of weeks ago i have a car in new york city i live in an outer borough i live in queens a lot of people in queens have cars i don't use it all the time most of the time i walk or take a subway i rarely drive into manada so i've been to new york city twice, i was very impressed by apparently new yorkers are not impressed by your transit or your subway, but i was very impressed by the fact that it goes everywhere because in Toronto our subway did not go everywhere we have two lines one is u shape and the other goes right through it and that's all you get there's above ground street cars but subways are so convenient and i find the subway system there coming from Toronto it's wild just the fact that it can go everywhere the new york city subway system is great when it comes to how expensive it is and how regularly it runs it just sucks because it's extremely out of date it's extremely not well taken care of in terms of you just see how it's just not i mean the stations sometimes i'm standing on a station oh my god you know how satisfying would be to get a power washing machine and just spray down these walls it looks so good it feels so good no that's fair actually in Toronto our stations are pretty clean, they're just not a lot of them we have like the opposite problem not for me wanda with a super chat just sending some love via super chat tonight thank you wanda i appreciate it love wanda this one is for me kate travail why do you think trans people are targeted so much lately i think that part of it is increased visibility whenever there is a marginalized community that kind of gets more representation in pop culture you're always going to see that blowback that's part of it for sure but the biggest part is that republicans have chosen them as a target because people are ignorant and they're just learning about trans people and so they're really exploiting that ignorance so it's an easy political issue for them at least for now but once people wake up then it won't be narrative dude with 1999 that's very generous thank you so much just got my adjunct's pay so i'm sharing the joy thanks for being a regular part of my online existence well i really appreciate that thank you so much you enjoy yourself hopefully you treat yourself to something good because you're just getting your paycheck so have fun thank you this one i think this is for me goblin friend with a super chat fmk what is fmk fuck mary kill oh right fuck mary kill mitch's neck pussy wait can you say that again matt but how is it said i just wanna hear you say it again it's probably neck pussy i mean it's supposed to be neck pussy i don't know i'm gonna say mitch's neck and a sexy ex logo i mean this is honestly really easy this is really easy yeah at least in terms of one of them the real question is which my effort eming the alien cheeks or the sexy ex logo because i'm not doing either with mitch's neck so that one we get rid of right off the pad that's easy i agree with that yeah i mean i guess if it's one time deal then i'll f the cheeks of the alien i mean spending a lifetime with a logo can't be that bad i probably say the same this is the best for goblin friend and i also second that or third that i should say this one's for me ever crisis radio with $5 thank you very much i think the conversation around reparations in california and san fratisco can change the minds of 73% of white americans who believe blacks don't deserve reparations i'm not really sure honestly i think that there needs to be i think that's important but there needs to be a broader conversation at the national level and just education because a lot of people like even when i talk about this on my channel i've done a couple of videos on reparations and people literally believe that reparations means that regular white people give money to black people when that's obviously not what that means the government puts the bill for that so there needs to be a national conversation just so that way all of the myths are kind of like dispelled but on top of that there needs to be people talking about this and it needs to happen we only see it once in a while during presidential campaigns like we saw this in 2020 because the media thought that was an easy way to attack Bernie Sanders and he was bad on this issue but so are other candidates too but you know we've done reparations before in the United States we did it for the Japanese internment victims it was signed by Ronald Reagan believe it or not so we absolutely can and should do it for black americans as well i think that the San Francisco i don't know much about the specifics but if they do it right then i think it can be an example but really there just needs to be an information campaign at the very very least nationally because people are very unknowledjable about this particular subject this one's for me Kowalski 199 aliens landed in my corn field they're neoliberals see that's interesting to me because i always assumed that the aliens would be more paleo cons but to learn that they're neoliberals i guess that's not super surprising so thank you for that information let's get some pictures Kowalski yes we need some real proof this time just want to point out this is the only show where you get a f-mary kill that involves alien cheeks and Mitch McConnell's neck and then a question about aliens in corn fields and those two things are sandwiched the bread to the reparations reparations reparations in the middle and two alien and Mitch McConnell discussions it's quite remarkable the level of variety we have on the show it's impressive Sam Blustine says can you talk about Shanaid's passing and her contribution as a leftist all this other stuff tonight is really trickering i gotta be honest my knowledge of her riping up a photo of the pope and i don't know anything else i'm not all that knowledgeable on Shanaid O'Connor i know she passed this week i know she had influence i'm not sure if either of you are well versed on Shanaid O'Connor i just know i know she had that infamous moment on SNL like you mentioned i do know that the industry both music industry and entertainment industry at large shunned her and actually took part in harassing her like the next week on SNL Joe Pesci was hosting and on the air said if he was hosting that week he would have smacked the shit out of her i saw that clip today and then he ripped up a picture of her what a piece of shit and then even Madonna came out and criticized her at the time for doing it and at SNL on later episodes and mocked her in a sketch i mean she received a lot of shit for what she did but then what made me feel good was not good that it happened but made me feel that she owned it and she knew what was going to happen was owning what happened there was an interview going around with her where it must have been a number of years ago but she was asked if that defined her career that moment of ripping up the pope picture and she said yes in a beautiful fucking way there was no doubt about who this bitch is there was no more mistaking this woman for a pop star but it was not derailing people say oh you fucked up your career but they're talking about the career that they had in mind for me i fucked up the house and in Tigua that the record company dudes wanted to buy i fucked up their career not mine it meant i had to make my living playing live and i am born for live performance i mean badass wow this one is for me from Adam Leoff 499 thank you so much Adam ok here is the truth Adrenal gland is a powerful aphrodisiac for the aliens that's why they are here oh ok so i like that mixing in a little bit of QAnon with the alien conspiracies i could go for that i like it oh it's for me jay cas with the super chat what are all of your thoughts on pinky doll scabing against the sag protest and taking their spot i'm sure y'all seen her video declaring this i did see the video i mean i have no idea how true it is i don't know if it was just her talking i don't know if it was just her being invited to a red carpet event because i've noticed that being that celebrities and actors and actresses are not that's part of the strike they can't promote films that would be affected by the strike so a lot of these companies are holding red carpet events but bringing in like non union actor entertainers like disney for the haunted mansion red carpet brought out like the theme park staff who play mickey mouse and mini mouse and you know people have to remember that those especially in that scenario those theme park staff it's part of their contract they have to do that stuff i don't think any sag actor considers that scabin they're not doing something that takes their job i don't think that's the same for pinky doll though so if she's actually going out there and is gonna do more work than you know just i don't know meeting with people for the future who knows what's but i mean the video made her look really bad and i'm someone who defended what she does because she's doing it a thing and she's actually good at it she looked really bad in that video how she was talking about it what she said it was not a good thing she did not come off good if she's actually doing this then fuck her i was rooting for her liked that she was doing her thing but scabin is just not okay i mean show solidarity or go fuck yourself that's where i'm at so if she really does do that then i'm canceling her personally oh and i should mention someone in the chat mentioned this i don't know if another question about the strike is gonna come up but A24 the big