I'm sorry Just know that I did it on purpose specifically to scare you. Yeah, I've worked to control. Yeah, that's mean You said that's me go mean mean. I heard me too. I mean It's not me gets mean. I'd agree with you if you said it was me but mean I don't know about that Yeah, maybe I misspoke it was me right my bed. Yeah, okay. I agree. That's fair. I Will take that into consideration the next time I do anything me Well close to me wouldn't want it to become me Yes, what a fine 8th of the 9th 2021 wouldn't you guys say? We got a mini hot or heatwave again in Wales, but don't worry for me Was yeah, what is a wave mean to the the whalish well What would be there would be relevant right all you guys need to know is this hot relative to me and you've experienced hot relative to you guys Right, so that's what I'm feeling. Yeah, it's just a hot relative to me is like well I hate it when it's 30 degrees, but hot relative here is like 40s Yeah, what what is well shot like 75 Fahrenheit or what I don't know what Yeah, what is Fahrenheit is that some kind of alien thing Fahrenheit first off that'd be a really great last name Like Joe, you know, huh? Fahrenheit will be a good. That'd be a good Comes from let me see What where does yeah Fahrenheit etymology Um It's named after Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit. Oh, that name Daniel Fahrenheit Daniel Gabriel Gabriel Fahrenheit. Wow He was a German scientist born in Poland in 1686. I Have nothing to do with us That's what that's why that's really that's the real reason that World War two started is the Germans they wanted they wanted Fahrenheit back So this is this is ours. This is a fun map. By the way, it's a fun map countries that still use Fahrenheit Yeah, I Like how some of the countries are so tiny that they just had to put a circle there Well, yeah, so the little islands.  That's just the only other country in the world. That's doing uses Fahrenheit What's what's that PlayStation motto where it's like experience greatness or something like that greatness of white? Yeah, greatness of it. Yeah, that's that's that's just that country's logo Their motto greatness and they look at every every time that their president says something they're like game of the year confirms Like game of the year for whatever he promises is meant to come out Bad that's a they got that PlayStation thing coming up tomorrow where they're gonna like show their game Super worried that it's gonna confirm The problem that I have with Sony line up right now with that incredibly homogenous compared to Nintendo and Microsoft's It's just like third-person action adventure story focused games You don't love them. I Mean I like them, but you know, it'd be nice if there was like a platform or every now and then yeah I guess you have like ratchet and plank and that's about it a crash right micro Will crash is multi-platform. I'm talking now not like before before Sony had a much more diverse lineup than Microsoft The meme used to be gears halo for so but like that meme doesn't work anymore because it's a whole bunch of other games Making and have been policing Like you got you got shooters racing games strategy games You got like adventure games like psychonauts Like super diverse and Nintendo's got this thing as well.  We're making them real cinematic And the game of the year the things the kind of games that win game of the year at the game awards Yeah, and I do wonder if that is a long-term smart Decision, you know, I don't know if that like if it was like you give Microsoft a couple more years and You'll be in a situation where it's like dude It's it's it's way too too good a deal to like go from Xbox Or you know play on PC and play the games on Xbox get all different game Especially there's like 10 bucks a month versus you got to pay 70 bucks for every individual game One of PlayStation. I don't know it feels it feels like it just feels like what happens every time, right? You win the pride generation so you get really arrogant You don't change your crack because you don't have to and then you just kind of get left behind So this what is happening that they're doing soon It's like a showcase an E3 equivalent, but they're just gonna be showing all the games coming out So like God of War probably Like all the all the new stuff they haven't done that yet Well, I think it's only 40 minutes. So with the shorter than an hour It's how long I say and I wonder how many new things we're gonna hear about versus how many games We already know this you're gonna hear more about the Fair enough. All right. It was welcome to eat how many Hello chat, how you doing? Yeah Yeah, I guess we've got a We're gonna do some super chat ketchups. We are indeed we're gonna answer all the questions everyone You're on all the tangents. Mm-hmm. I Think we're get I'm thinking we're gonna get Eight done eight right. That's the target Okay, number one simply says blow holes Very good Number two why specifically is smoke monster bad.  We've all been there Maybe maybe he's pregnant. He's just got these weird cravings We you know when a way, you know, the lady gets about you know five or so months in and she starts going Oh, I want pickles and ice cream and also space and time.  I'm happy to give a pregnant woman all the space. She needs to be fair. What about the time? It's negotiable Pregnant chicks are hot if you say so We are the smoke monster from last if ever I rewatch that show I'll give you all the reasons I can't imagine why I would though Unless I want to make free suffer. Maybe I don't know It's suffering too because the first two seasons are really good Right, so it'd be good and then it would turn into awful, which is really tough thing.  I guess Like if a show that sucks ends up being terrible It's like well, that's like is that really a surprise, but if something doesn't break the theory rates That's why the MCU is painful. Yeah Because they still haven't killed all of it yet Yeah, there's two parts left that are part of the corpse.   It's crazy He feels bad about bad things that he did in the past Yeah, like that's why Shang-Chi by default. It's like the best one because the hero isn't a monster It's a change here. Yeah, so to change it up a bit Wonder test it out again Where are we Do you thoughts on the Bruce and Natasha scene in Avengers and the scene where Bruce talks about killing himself also high rags Moodle and Fringman soy Oh So the Bruce Natasha scene in Avengers are we talking about when they met I Think they're talking about the part where he talks about shooting himself in the head and then hoaxed about out the bullet Well, that's the second part Oh the first scene is awesome, too Oh, I was just trying to clarify which scene is talking about says thoughts on Bruce Natasha scene in Avengers and the scene where Bruce Talks about killing Okay, yeah, I think I think they're both great Yeah, I'd agree The if we're talking about when they meet I don't think I put this in the video. I kind of think I probably should have just for the hell of it, but um Natasha is like You know really good nine-man too. It's like oh look at her go. She can beat up all these people who? But it's the beginning of Avengers that gives you a sense of like my god She's like close to dying and she doesn't even really care And the realization is that she doesn't believe she's close to dying at all.  It's Gary. Yeah, the scenery is changing is much closer to horror than often times The noises he makes as well especially because like a PG-13 film or whatever.  Avengers did a good job with Hulk Why did they do it who paid them well, I think I About all of that and just everything yeah And yeah the so the scene where he admits he's he shot himself That was prompted because The cage they have for him and the concerns they have for him They're like we might have to kill you or whatever and he's like you won't be able to Which is pretty dark as well Lots of great stuff in Avengers Muller is the real BBC coming to your channel. Hi, I don't believe so I still think it's gonna be a back-and-forth between their channels I'm not sure cuz like my channel is already with the catch-ups we're doing now I'm gonna be streaming probably twice a week for the foreseeable future We've got a lot of super chats to catch up on The idea that I do three streams per that would be every three weeks of the real do it So I don't know maybe I'll have to chat with them I'm totally on board with just being a more permanent guest at this point.  I was like great and It was funny because they eventually noticed I was like trying to you know how it is You don't ruin the flow of show. I was like talking less and less. It's like we're like Okay, that's like not really Oh Boy Rags look at all these dog bites you've been uploading over the last couple of days. Oh my goodness gracious Yeah, I just a moment ago. I did the yeah Okay, and fortnight thing The Kree name change next that's that's fun. That is a that is a whole conversation Yeah, I'm very glad they did that I hate it when characters have names that I don't associate with good people I mean, I saw that like people on Twitter were saying that was like a really obviously cool I guess it's That is unfortunate. I was getting close the first place. I'm eight to get it's like, okay fine.  That's okay. Yeah If I can drive good then maybe I'll have a chance. That's a big question.  Yeah more change on. Oh Kill them all my precious Anyway, hello Fringy Mola Moodle and rags. Hope you guys and chat are having a great day. Oh You too Yeah You as well Did videos just upload or are they blocked? I Really don't know what you're talking about. I'm afraid I've seen people complaining about There's some weird stuff going on with channels right now where banners don't show up and sometimes you can't see the videos. I Just assume it's YouTube glitching out. Don't worry about it Unless of course we're all getting banned. It's okay. What's sake? Um Congrats on obliterating the plushie sale goal. We did indeed the plushies are now gone They are you didn't get them though. Well, you've been what you were warned. They're a new email today It says the commas did a thing. Yeah, I got them to you Like you you're a you're a supporter of rags and more and I was like I figure I was Oh Yeah, they're right now they probably started being built in a factory all those cuddly little boys probably Very nice All right last lap in a sixth place I can do this right Fringy Ah Yeah Sure you could yeah Bring it just fell off the map again. Do you still think I can do it? All right now, I don't know Much happen. I mean hey look and more impossible things have happened name three Man went to the moon. That was people thought that was impossible right brothers date.  What's up sir? How you doing? Oh, I don't I believe he thought it's wrong. She wasn't that good I was about to say either you're up very early or you're still in Canada Canadian You sent me message saying do you want an extra quest? An extra quest, it's funny coverings. I'm just like sure quest giver. What over what have you got? I mean we can we can definitely have him in the problem is I feel like we're not gonna do any catching up today. We'll try We had one job you're the college try as we do Yes, you're welcome to jump in if you wish mr. Shad Um, but not allowed to talk about Shang-Chi, okay Oh, I just came in as you were saying Shang-Chi Shang-Chi Shwang-Chi Cuz it's probably offensive to do anything else Well, she's such a DC fanboy It's funny like I dropped my review and people are saying should you like anything at all you're always so critical of stuff like Gave a good review of invincible not long ago. I mean that doesn't count. It's not a real Thanks for taking so let me crash your stream. I saw your idea streamers like hey I'm still in Canada, and I'm doing nothing right now. So why not why not hop in yeah We're we're doing one of them adventures through super chance with we're very far behind, but we will catch up It's gonna happen Where are we the latest one was? dear Vision actually game ends himself for his wrongs in the new water if shame wander didn't learn personal responsibility from him That boner trusting girl. I haven't I've completely stopped watching one If I think the latest I was it three. I think I've seen I don't even know anymore You gotta watch this I can ask you what happened I haven't I haven't continued what if I haven't continued Rick and Morty. I don't give a toss about Yeah, we did Not super happy about it. No I'm a little disappointed that the last episode of the season is the second highest-rated episode That's the first writing We kind of make sense. I guess like you make sense. You can understand why people go in there Yeah, I guess just I don't think it's out of anywhere close to as good as this into the life of son Absolutely. Yeah, I am I'm you know what? What was that sorry, I was just gonna say something. That's all right Yeah, one under you know close to the chest Okay That was it too too spicy too much. I was not in faith up. Okay, so it's not a spice. It's not a spicy take It's just thought I'm having spicy thought Not a spicy thought in an interesting thought Oh Damn what I just did was kind of cool, and I didn't even understand it I'm conflicted about what if episode one Because there's a lot of things that annoyed me in it, but she ends up using a sword and so Now I don't know what hmm Think I want to know you even more I Don't know rags. I really like swords.   Yeah, you're not a real fan Not a real shell Yes, oh I just saw the super chat mother's milk in a cup Shad. I know that reference and if I was to be true to the world building I am shocked that you would use such a foul slur. Oh my god I was gonna say I'm assuming is it is it your book? No, no, it's not my book. It's a mother's milk The character from the boys. Yeah, but I doubt that's the reference That's not the reference. Well, it's taking me a minute. That's a lot trying to say Do you want to know do you want to know the reference? Well, I already knew dude. Shout its wheel of time I knew that. Oh, well, you knew that more. I totally totally knew that Why would what why would I I've never read the chart? What what even is that? Why would he follow you around Well chats affixed to the side of the video this one's kind of like a fix to you Not not like actually it's not like it's able to you or anything, but still he's just there And he has things to say every now and then terrifying a weirdly inconsistent would be the thing it's like One moment he's talking about one thing in the next word. He's talking about come What is it? Explain that to everybody that you made this like don't worry. All right.  I'm I'm the devil dog. Oh on his shoulder And you got Oh, yes, sometimes yeah, it comes and goes I Depends how you feel the day in it If if my evilness needs this that extra physical like a physical prop to manifest itself. There it is Pitchfork, those are evil. Oh, yes Become evil that seems like a bit of a tight cast. I feel sorry for pitchforks Yeah, it's probably evil to try it and son, you know why I'm well. I think that's what they're from I Okay, I think I think that's what it's from but I I need I do need to start instead of calling it the devil's pitchfork I'm a devil's trident and I need to in the devil is actually Willem Dafoe Pick up take up your mother's trident. I know you want to Wait, would he be saying that to himself? Just in general just to everyone Oracle It means that's that's what it's a responsibility.  Yeah, take up your mother's trident. Come on, you know In the angel angel dog over there. So I don't you know, it's not right It's not it's hers and she might need it. Yeah, and what are you gonna use a trident for anyway? It's weird device So anyway, I Don't like double-dash the most but it definitely has the best final lap tune A little bit of ringing at the end totally pumps me up. Hmm I've never really argued myself How will why a particular Mario Kart is the best one?  I think The best Mario Kart game is probably eight and But it's a toss up between that double-dash favor Very well. I really want content. I Um, I never cared that much for double-dash. I liked it, but I was like this is alright There were some I think there was something about the steering that made it seem Kind of floaty in a way it didn't it doesn't seem as precise I don't know. It's hard to describe But it wasn't like you don't like the feel basically kind of My oddly enough my favorite Mario Kart. I haven't played the newest one yet I really really like the DS one Yeah, it's got a lot of great maps on it. I really like it has this kind of I Don't know. There's the the driving has a sort of precision to it in this odd way Which just seems way more responsive almost almost like you're You're more like magnetized to the the ground it has that feeling where it's you don't feel is Slighty, I don't know it's hard to describe, but I just kind of prefer that Plus I could play it in bed Thoughts on Marvel's what if thus far Hmm It has a sword in the first episode That's something it's probably more than just the one in the whole thing, you know What are you saying there's more than one? Another guy with a sword at some point. I don't want to rule that out, you know Oh, oh my goodness. I might have to actually watch the other episodes now Oh Yeah, there won't be like an e-fap episode forum unless all of us can muster the care to actually see them They seem to keep fucking with everything and since they're like It's like canonly Removed from everything then should be able to leave it alone, but who knows how long that'll stay that way Hmm So I have a question about what if then because I really see the first episode But I was already annoyed in the first episode that So much drastically change and I was trying to say it happened from this one little choice of not going up into the Up the stairs alright, and it's like way too much change from that little one variant everything And so is they doing that in the other episodes where they're gonna try and claim all these drastic changes are due to this One little difference or something. I'm pretty sure Yeah, the the Doctor Strange one is weird because when you watch Doctor Strange Because I haven't seen this episode. I just know this is the what if part of it You know when he gets in his car accident at the beginning Yeah, um turns out his the GF the love interest person is in the car with him this time And it's like I didn't think the capacity for that to happen was even possible because Isn't he doing late night surgery then he goes home Yeah, and then he's he's on his own then he goes out to drive like I don't remember who Doing that, but it's like okay, and that that is apparently like the the big change whatever but I mean Like it seems like that the decision leads to this Widely bizarre concept. It doesn't feel like we're really exploring the fun aspect of cause and effect here We're just using it as a justification to tell whatever story Yeah, totally new story.  What are we doing? Like how can we justify this like I don't know that that girl she dies. I guess I just thought it up The latest episode is if like some of the Avengers is zombies. What are we doing? I? Don't get that one. I remember seeing a cutscene where like they're fighting his on bees Iron man and some other people I think cap and I was like, how could Iron Man possibly lose against zombies Yeah, I don't see how that's possible if he's wearing the suit I don't see how you could lose.  Yes. How do they bite through the arm of a second wing? I kind of just fly away. Why you just hovering flying. What are they gonna do? Oh? I don't know.  Oh, okay.  Yes, he did.  Hi rags. All right. Hello Oh No Well, the rest is also isn't it neat that the new matrix looks more like a crappy cyberpunk bold runner bold runner Well runner, I don't know if it's ball really. Yeah, it's not like a parody. I don't know look I am unlocked the characters rags. I finally did it. Oh, it's great Now you can use them and dominate the battlefield I will use them right now to unlock more things tilt a cart battle mode stage. Let's unlock that Good Exciting I'm gonna use Wario's car. This is cool Why are you Why are you all he's a cool guy Well, we do yeah Lucas am yeah, Lucas arm Thoughts on the Langoliers compared to Loki Who know I don't know.  No. Oh well, I tried Just because I saw the super chat and I might not be around to Answer it later there. Someone's asking you what I thought about the Wheel of Time trailer Did you guys see the Wheel of Time trailer at all? I do know I friend a friend of mine friend of mine has super concerns Yeah, I'm I'm I'm honestly really worried. I'm still holding on to that faint, you know a bit of hope still like baby and So Yeah, that's kind of what I got at the moment The trailer it was interesting it showed some kind of cool things But it's again, it's a trailer. So I've been lied to before I don't want to too much on it And so, you know, I kind of like how they showed the weaving of the magic and stuff It's like I didn't kind of picture it that way, but I could see it working. They do it that way But other than that, yeah, there's not enough scene for me to really Comment too much on but you shall be watching I assume. Oh, yeah, I'll be a man diving into that One deep every single I'm not sure if they're gonna release it episode by episode or the whole thing But it's Amazon's I may do it episode by episode So if they definitely do that, we'll be doing an episode by episode deep breakdown or everything I'll be so damn critical of this one because I love Wheel of Time. Wheel of Time is friggin awesome And I'm really worried that they're just gonna So as a brown table said he cried three times while watching Shang-Chi are you kidding me? Hey, man, I don't even question it. Yeah, I believe that You kidding me? I don't know.   You said it was like a 10 out of 10, right? My office into a house of lies. I would never do that. I was just clarifying Ted three. Who's who's one of those who's counting? Oh, Langley is apparently Stephen King, by the way, I Have not read it or seen it if it's been adapted Sputum and it's coming out, but so is matrix resurrections I await the inevitable e-fat movies the matrix trilogy no matter how long it takes I've seen a lot of people requesting that. What do you guys think? Matrix trilogy e-fat movies and then we do matrix for when it comes out Well, that's gonna be theaters only probably right. No, that's HBO Max. Oh schnizzle. Okay The end of this year end of this year we could because I feel like we could knock out the matrix trilogy in one night if you were On board with that No, we'll give it all to death's bullshit We'll invite him though and it'll be fun because we'll talk we gotta invite Theo apparently Theo hates all three of them All three so you guys might first one he does indeed I Think he still concedes the first one's the best one. So there's that Like the usual is everyone hates the two and three As you all know probably I mean matrix one is a cool movie I mean, I remember thinking it's great. So I wouldn't mind rewatching it and getting to those thoughts You will see what happens Yeah, maybe I remember when the matrix coming out like that was just it was like everybody's talking about the matrix and Like Lord of the Rings around that's back when movies were like, wow, we've got a lot of potential here movies are cool Whereas now I mean well, I guess remember when I was working for I mean, is there any reason to assume that? New matrix movie be good considering that the witch house is kind of like not made anything good They made cloud atlas and that are the really weird film didn't they and Jupiter spending yeah Where any red main screams? We need to see that That's a perfect you fat movies movie I haven't seen the new matrix trailer. Do they explain at all? I'm still alive. I think the new matrix trailer is coming out today. Yeah There's a teaser trailer that got released. Oh, it's not even a teaser trailer. It's like a teaser for a teaser Yeah, I think the trailer is coming out. Which by the way, I don't know. I don't like teaser teaser teases You know annoying. You know what? I don't like when I boot up a trailer and then it does five seconds of like all look at this epic stuff trailer now It's like, yeah, I know I clicked on it There's gonna be a reason for that right like something legally awesome because if you know It's because you're playing ads on YouTube You gotta cram in really cool stuff in that first five seconds to make sure that they don't skip the ad. That's why they do it Make sure they don't skip the ad. What do you mean? You know how like you play ads on YouTube trailers can be just played as ads directly linking to that particular video and It'll be like a five seconds and then you can So when you get the option to skip they hope at that point you you're like actually I guess I've watched this Exactly Why would they need the full ads to contain those? You know, I mean the ones on YouTube Because the ones on YouTube are the ones that link to the To that to those sometimes like the like ads on YouTube are videos that exist on the platform I believe in like including trailers So if you clicked on the hyperlink for that particular ad it would link directly to the official, you know trailer That's why a lot of trailers get so many views.   It's like, oh, okay. I'll give it a go. I'll watch it I'm sure they do it because it works right like I'm imagining. I'm sure it's very effective I guess it's just concerning isn't it like annoying attention and collectively that we we need that at the beginning to get hooked in Yeah, oh well, we love our hooks Captain hook would love all these I have to say the things that the ads that make me skip the most are the ones that appear Don't don't click the skip skip.  No, it's like don't think of the elephant, but Now I'm thinking of the elephant Yeah, exactly, but now I'm thinking to skip it. It's like, thanks for a body. We'll see that's one Where it's like someone could be like, well, they wouldn't do it if it wasn't working, right? And I'd be like, I don't know if that one works So I really don't does it work. Maybe it does. I think my favorite one is again The gurus, hey, I'm just here in my garage Look at it his Ferrari that he rented for the day No, because it was Neil Breen it wouldn't be cringy it would be awesome Oh man, that's unfortunate. It was It was Only had fallen a different way That's probably cost me the whole thing. I might have been able to pull it together, but I don't think I can now. Oh Well, well, hey, look you need maybe you need to take that course from that guy in his garage He can teach you about the power of Positive thinking there'll be a great little like parody version. You do it And he's just like my car double-dash boo and daddy piranha Best way to play the game. It's like, okay. It's really specific, but okay There there is yeah, I mean you could have an online course to teach people how to get good of a Car double-dash and a lonely car, you know, normally I'd sell it for $6,000 But today I'm offering a special offer to the first 100 people who click the link, you know Three hundred and ninety-seven dollars and fifty cents just some weirdly specific number On the thrill of victory exactly you can't put the price on success and or winning in Marica double-dash It's you could it would be thirty nine ninety nine Again thirty-seven dollars and twenty-six cents it needs to be a weirdly specific number Otherwise, we're not only usually under ninety-five water Not online courses for some reason for like, you know, but self-help stuff a lot of the time they have weirdly specific values Like instead of being rounded up to like three ninety nine ninety nine will be three seventy four Sixteen like I don't know why you think of all that this thing that order. I'm saving We'll think not just a quarter think about that quarter and a sense extra on top You know a penny earned as a dollar saved as they say except that's true when I tell you to buy this course You said this quiet part loud for you, what are you doing? It's it's really kind of annoying because it's like there's actually a lot of great Advice to be found in this realm, but like there's so many charlatans, too You just got to be careful this realm this world we share this earth realm this this yeah the nether realm There's a lot of I mean I'd buy scorpion self-help book How to get over the grief of losing your family to a frost ninja and Other I don't know that he can write that book because he just went nuts No, but I'm saying he's gone on a spiritual journey. He's He's he's he's he's come a long way. He's he's learning to he's learning to move on he's You know, I'm sure the scorpion is free time does calligraphy or something like that. Maybe I feel like he absolutely He does a night with scorpion. I mean, do you remember cooking the scorpion? Cooking with scorpion It was little videos you could unlock in I think more combat deception. They were hilarious.  I remember ratchet and clank had this really cool There was like this little room you could go into where You could see a bunch of cut content that they just had to remove from the game and you can play with some of those weapons and like equipment Explore some of the the concepts that just didn't quite make it into the game That was really cool and they didn't need to do that, but they did as the you know It was neat like someone in chat said they put their differences aside to work for Shang Tsung in the first Mortal Kombat movie Definitely a story in there What what's that got to do with anything Scorpion yeah, but we weren't talking about that. We're just talking about scorpion Wait, what we weren't talking about scorpion. We were talking about scorpion. I'm break So we weren't talking about the more combat plot line from the twenty twenty one movie We were talking about just scorpion right a book.  Here's the thing That doesn't seem like a jump to you like other the plot line of that first movie. There is a story in there. It's like what? If you say so right What did you have to say about that I mean you must have read it out for a reason, right? I thought it was funny. Oh Like that like pulling out the idea of an idea from the Mortal Kombat movie the first one where the story was incredible, you know Wait, which one we're talking about now the 90s one Yeah, yeah, the incredible story there. Just the incredible potential of how cool that story is People were sad that we didn't love that film Well, we liked making fun of it remember reptile Remember reptile I remember that we saw the updated reptile the duo. We were like whoa.     Yeah Like that's it. That's all the dipping that's ours, but they don't want to and maybe with the next one They're actually just a dollar video again Yeah, what a hero but on it. Oh Wow. Oh my god Look at that comeback look at how happy piranha plant is Mola said there was no story to his grief and that's why it was prompted when I say there's no story to his grief I just said that he didn't I don't think he should be writing advice on how to recover from it She went nuts.  Maybe that's just you know, it's like step one go nuts Step one to recover step three right book So it's meant to be step two question mark. Oh god three profits. Goodbye boys.  I'll go. I'll one-up you for me I find it hyper cringe when anyone automatically refers to a woman or a non-white character as a diversity hire or a strong female character Immediately, yeah, I mean that is ultra cringe right there for sure I guess it's just in general why we fixating on this We are because you're becoming the very thing you wanted to destroy I would say Well, it's just you know when I see Sarah Khan. I'm not like a strong female character. It's like our character. Yeah Yeah, I assume that's what this is a server not a waitress Exactly I don't know if that answers the question or not. I I think I think yeah, um because I'm trying to think of like something, you know, like if black widow someone said Yelena a strong female character or something like that I should be like I think that does distract from talking about the more important and more interesting I think discussion on how well is she characterized? Exactly Look at her history. Look at this thing.   I'll save her people in chat and host who haven't seen it Um, we're not too concerned about like spoilers. We just yeah rags myself metal I'm gonna be honest. Um, Hulk shows up as normal banner or rather not Hulk at all Just Bruce shows up as Bruce. So it's like yeah God, it's really is the MCU Oh Yeah, I'm assuming we just we just don't get anything for that right bring me What for the Hulk stuff, sorry Yeah, cuz he's supposed to be Professor Hulk so what's going on that sort of thing Yeah, I don't know. It's just a person now Maybe we'll find out in the she Hulk show streaming soon on Disney Plus. Yay I feel like that's another situation Oh, we cannot hear you. I haven't heard you say anything Shad Am I live can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you now. Okay. Okay. No worries because I yeah There I've been actually trying to say things. I don't know what was going on for a number of times then but anyway We shall continue. Yeah I also really liked that scene where Tony teases Bruce and starts treating him like a person.   Hi again rags Hello Yeah, um So Tony's poking him Just to see what's gonna happen and it's it comes clearly Tony's just curious how he's managed to keep a lock on his anger Obviously the the big reveal in that movie is like he's always angry So it's not a matter of controlling anger or whatever, you know, there's more There's more to read into But I think the Hulk story is so mangled now that like trying to read into like the story as a whole in the MCU It probably only disappoint But you're right, uh Tony's having a little bit of fun with him and he definitely has more respect for Banner than pretty much anybody there um And Steve sees him doing that and he's like stop it.  So more people say it than the other way Do you see more people say it than the other way? well, if I mean if I'm pretty sure like half of uh indians are Speak english pretty well. So if you add that pool and then australia, it's like god damn sounds like more people call it a capsicum Then you think india and australia outweigh the rest of the world like in terms of No in terms of it wouldn't be the rest of the world i'm talking about english speaking people Because I imagine it would be called something totally different in a lot of other languages How many people are in america? Like 300 million 350 million and then compared to west australia plus india's english speaking australia probably six hundred fifty seven hundred million australia belly adds to the pool like the australian like india is really pulling above its weight in terms of The capsicum team Oh my god Well stream heard that more than you guys did someone's outside doing a drag race, I guess All right, I didn't hear that at all.  It's really weird Yeah, and they always assume it's just like rags. She's been like, hey, i'm here too.  What'd you guys talk about guys? Why did you not tell me about it? It's called a capsicum I wouldn't say that. He wouldn't say that. Well, no, he wouldn't. He'd say it's called a pepper Bell pepper and he'd be wrong while also Would he be wrong though? Well from a different point of view, yeah From a certain point of view rather Okay, obi-one freeing obi Nice, nice Uh, this super chat is a pot of a soul a pot of a soul a pot of a soul Sorry, I have to repeat myself. It'll help you remember also high rags Hello, I think for me and for any of the only ones will know what's happening in that super chat What was I wrong? Sorry I'm so confident you'll get it. I'll read it again. This super chat is a why was yeah, go ahead This super chat is a pot of a soul a pot of a soul a pot of a soul Sorry, I have to repeat myself. It'll help you remember I remember that one. Yeah The lemon of Troy, I think Yeah Yes, that's right That was a really good episode.  I think as well That's right. They do They just threw the tree as well. Like they bring it back. Yeah And then in Springfield they have a turnip tree They have turnip juice Turnip juice.  God damn it Oh, that was the Roman numeral thing as well where it was like he had to You know door number seven the rest of them have man-eating tigers in them. Yeah How do you remember is it because of the rocky films? Yeah, rocky five plus rocky two equals rocky seven Adrian's revenge How many rockies are there now? If you include the reboot I think there are eight now right because Isn't there what were there four or five original movies? I don't know I'm coming but it's either seven or eight Oh It's Fringy. Hey Fringy. Are you allowed to say Nora? What Noah? Yeah, Noah I get what they're trying to say. It's very clever. Yeah. No, I know Moses Episode four of what if is actually pretty good. Don't check out the zombie episode. No, I don't believe you I also think when someone said that in my chat a couple of days ago, it was like, I don't believe you How you doing chat? Are you there? I'm there there's someone going on with my audio because um, uh, You guys can't hear me half the time when I'm trying to share a comment or two. I don't know what's going on He's gonna say haven't heard you since now What's going on? Yeah, so anyway, I'll keep trying What are your comments? Um, oh, well just on the knower thing. I was wondering is this like saying heavier But like it's no but even more so than no. Yes. No error. They're not on top of no see Yeah, I Very insightful guys. I was just you know What could have happened if you guys didn't hear such a comment. I don't know I think you'd have would be over. It's all be done. My goodness. Yeah, we're done. Yeah Um, congrats on the plushie sales boys. Howdy rags Hello And you're welcome. Thanks to you. Thank you for buying them. Yeah There's a this is like at least I think 2600 little mauler and rags is all over the world now Well, there will be Did you buy them shad? Do you like to cuddle me and rags when you're reading your books and stuff? Oh, no Oh, that's so Chat's like I couldn't possibly answer that question because Oh, yeah, someone said in a super chat for this game, but yeah, I think I've mentioned it before but the Dead Island multiplayer That wouldn't be a terrible game to do any fab gaming with probably Remember that game? I do. I vaguely remember The trailer for it was awesome, right? That's that game, right, right? And it was a great trailer and then the game came out and it was fine It was fine. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it for what it was It wasn't bad. By the way, I feel bad if shad was consistently trying to answer the question there Oh, yeah, can you hear me? Oh my god? There he is. There he is I literally gave us a whole sentence answer and No, I don't know what's going on We can hear you now go while you still have a chance Well, you said if I you know asked if I bought the the bought the plushies and my Answer like without skipping a beat was no, I'm not gay Oh boy. Well, you know, yeah, that's fine. What do you mean? But I think you might be happy that I got muted on that one. Hmm Ah, I'm all is doing it to me.   Easiest answer in my whole life. Yes Well, I guess I'm gay now. Mm-hmm Is it like double gay if I bought both of them? Oh totally, absolutely Doesn't it gate each other?  No, that's gayer Oh, that's like saying if I take one and add one do it. Does that make zero?  Yeah No, oh Well, no, remember caughtman.  He said like what is this? This is a comet tree on the war in afghanistan.  He had a count of bill of buddies um What was it? Yeah, that's right. A count of bill of buddies and by curious and all that That's a great episode. That was a really good episode butters is an awesome character.  The entire I would man that is a tough one, but I think simpsons has to stay It's too significant in terms of like what it you know, what it what it brings about What if it's influence maintained, but it itself had to go? I think I would still keep the simpsons. I think um I think that that that that early part of simpsons is just like ace comedy um But it's not it's not a choice that I make lightly If I added futurama to that selection, would it easily be futurama or is that the tough? All right, like if it's futurama or south park or simpsons, but that's for drama or simpsons Oh, no three of them Uh, oh like and I have to get rid of one. Yeah I I love futurama, but I probably would get rid of futurama because there was a higher quantity of great content in south park because more more episodes That I think are really good fair enough So, yeah, if that was the tier I guess would be simpsons south park futurama in terms of wasn't be Getting rid off first, but I would not want to be rid of any of them Uh high rags don't watch green night Um They just make me want to see it more Oh, no, maybe that's their plan. They like they want to recommend something. They're like, maybe if I don't like anti recommend it I mean, I'm interested in it. I'd like to see it. So well they follow up with I straight up walked out of the theater right after they showed protagonists hand Covered his own squelching coom Okay And they suffer majorly from scenes going on and on I have no idea what any of that means But um, I don't know. It's belching coom. Okay There is a trailer out for midnight mass Who is that's been out for a while on it? No, no, that's 21 minutes ago. I saw on tweeter No, that's there's there's another trailer for midnight mass been out for a while Oh, yeah, well, I know you know because rags specifically said to you guys that he's not gonna watch it because he doesn't want spoilers All right, that's a good idea. Actually. Yeah I guess that conversation got memory hold Well, we have we have many many conversations true And always, you know always so much bandwidth up in the brain zone I think memory holding things is important. You got to get just yeah get some space Like you said, I love the ol' m hole Chat chi and the legend of the ten superchats Um, oh We're gonna have to give him a lot of space after I read this out because shad is probably still Trying to answer questions, but uh hey shad Gotta say I disagree with your take on double-bitted axes But it's a bigger argument than I can fit in a super chat. Keep up the great work and high rags Hi Oh, I can see shad's ring is green, but he's not saying anything Oh It is I have no idea what's going on I I literally just reset my entire discord like voice settings then and uh, I could be just the internet connection. I don't know Um, but yeah, so we can hear we can hear fringy and he's from australia. Mm-hmm. Yeah, canada at the moment Presumably has better internet, but I don't know what you mean.  It's in your dna I assume that's what it was. Yeah, it's like a it's like a thing I'm clearly cursed. That must be what it is. Um Just on the double-bitted axe thing. Yeah scarlet made a great reply video He added a bit more nuance to it and stuff and uh, I didn't voice what I was saying Probably clear enough when I said, you know axes are heavy. I was meaning they're top heavy They're not uniquely heavier than other weapons or like other swords And you know scarlet groomers writes to clarify that and stuff and so yeah, there's more nuance That can be had in discussion and I'm looking forward to the videos he makes on it And what I can be heard. I'll say just on the plushie plushie notes Uh, I actually think the plushies you made were great. Okay. They're just not hitting here I I just I'm not into plushies myself But in terms of quality plushies I've seen the ones you made they were very cool. They were very very cool Well, thank you I'm very happy with how they turned out Only plushies I will eat I will happily own more plushies, but I think for example if jay made a plushie. I would buy it, but I wouldn't care about it Well because the jay plushie might just be A jay, you know, I'll just be like I'll put it on my desk. I guess you can hang out Meanwhile, I would show all of my family members the rags one.  What are those for looking at? Um, and I yeah as far as I can tell a lot of people are gonna start doing them I think they want to do a set possibly for friday night tights and I was like, man, it's gonna be like nine plushies Imagine they do like a buy all nine you get 90% off I'm tempted to get 90% off This seems like a pretty good deal. It's like, mm-hmm. Yeah, just go for it Um So uh, out of curiosity, what is the like main counter-argument to the double bit being a being a good thing If if shad's able to Oh No, I tried I'm sure chad explaining it right he's explaining it thoroughly right now and it's really interesting but it's a different living room is learning something but So what about over here? Oh, oh, yeah, I'm caring now. You know what? I So ready you're just on and off and on and off it's just So I can't even like speak up and try and intersect, you know Any comments between things you say because I think I'm just getting I don't know. It's like I'm getting noise gated It's really weird. You could go to push the talk for a bit if you want that might work Let's see what that'll do Voice video All right, so how's that? I think it's all right. Yeah, and so rags say something again. I'm gonna try and cut you off All right. Well Yeah, you did you did success. Yes, I was so confident. I didn't even really start anything of note Oh, the power is mine now. I could I can do it guys noise Oh, I feel so satisfied. You have no idea So anyway, um double bit versus single bit. I assume is that the correct nomenclature? Yeah, it is actually and um, and so one of the uh, you know things like uh, people say is like, all right Having an extra axe head that's sharpened for backup. There's some utility in it. I'll say, you know, maybe I don't think it justifies Doubling up the axe head myself still Um, and then the other thing was is like you could have different kind of shaped axe heads And that was kind of scarlet groom's main point that he did in his video And you know, I agree you could have that it's not kind of what I was criticizing You don't disagree that you So you do agree that you can have different kinds of axe heads Yeah, I agree you could have different kinds of axe heads, but that's not necessarily what I was criticizing I was criticizing the stereotypical mirrored exactly the same axe head on either side. I think you know That's that that's the one that doesn't die is very sorry. Sorry.  I'm not gonna give you any other specifications What I like is all if all things being equal All right, all other things being equal same armor same skill same things like that Um, and I had an axe that was a little bit more lighter In the top heavy end because I had one axe head But a spike on the other hand and that meant I had a bit more versatility that would give me the edge You know, uh over the person that just has you know a double-headed axe in my opinion Wouldn't mean I would win every fight. It means I would say maybe 70 30 out of the engagements You'll probably come out on top because of that. I'm sorry.  It landed on their head I'm just very proud of that That that is a wonderful achievement I agree That's good stuff. I would roof you in this theoretical battle.  It's great. I'm gonna try and do that heaps now Take his power away I was the one in charge of the dude that banana snipe Dude Boop boop do I need to know thoughts on Wreck and Morty season five overall That is in a sentence Much because I've started rick and morty right and I've been enjoying I think I'm on season three now at the moment Yeah, you're on the great Mean friend you loved it right up until like season five episode what four Poor yeah four. That was like that was a bad episode And it never really fully recovered from that Yeah, well jay was saying with those last three episodes It's hard to be as invested But I think if we were still watching from like episode You know like back when we were still loving it. We probably would have had better things to say but ultimately like It's they're better than some of the other ones But all only because they didn't like assassinate the characters and it's like is that really worth a lot when you're not Like the plot lines are so shit. It's like. Hmm. Yeah, my investment in that show is kind of gone. Yeah Bad face but for those who are having fun with it still you go right ahead Especially if you're on the earlier episodes go nuts because I Freaking I did rewatch the citadel episode that we pine over a long right after and we reminded of how much we love that show When it was at its best. Yeah good stuff Dude that that episode out of context is pretty good like uh, I think so, yeah If you don't really understand a lot about what's going on It's still got so much to say that you'd be able to pull out of it. I guess Oh, is that the one where it's just like life in the citadel and you know, you see the detective morty and stuff and Yeah, you get like a slice of life of all different industries in this citadel Yeah, yeah, I I watched that only a couple a couple of days ago. And yeah, thoroughly enjoyed Well, I hope you enjoy it for as long as possible, shan I will I will I But it sucks when the show goes bad like it starts good and just goes downhill Yeah um Shad more vinland saga and tell these masses to watch it or else. Oh Sorry, what watch what vinland saga? Oh vinland saga. So I need a what rewatch it critically. Oh, I've just kind of sat down and watched the first Um, I haven't even finished the first season. I don't think but oh, you know It was enjoyable enough for me to keep watching because when I was sick and I just needed something on tv It's like, ah, yeah I'll finally put on vinland saga people have been saying I need to watch it And I remember enjoying what I was watching enough to keep watching and that says a whole lot more than A lot of other stuff that I had to try giving you guys Fair enough Fappy and the legend of the 10 fringes Fappy and the legend of the 10 fringes So so what are the fringes though that I really want to know now Are they like rings but I yeah, I don't know if they're just variations of fringy Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we've got to collect them all 10 different fringy like masks Maybe I need to give you different powers They have different like one's the crow and one's a stork and maybe one is a a turn an Arctic turn Maybe one is a an owl one is a A a maybe a house wren One could be a robin One could be a secretary bird That was when I was waiting for one could be a one could be a chicken A humble chicken one could be a hummingbird this little one one could be a shrew Trident she and the legend of the mother's rings They made a fringies goo No No, that's fringy's commentary there It's not true. It's not true. It's impossible Bringing your mic is so much quieter Um, oh, yeah It always has been I don't know why I mean, you know, you seem fine to me, but let me know chat if you want to boost it I'm gonna just reiterate the case. I miss mine from 150.  Bloodsplot bloodsplot. Yeah, that's how we never said that I don't think you know Someone needs to draw a bloodsplot on Friday. Someone will I feel like this someone listening to this right now I was like, that's pretty funny. Actually, I'm gonna do that. Yeah You see those little patches of water on it and you can just take them off Do stuff with them Shad a question about the gunblade. It's supposedly meant to deal more damage by firing shots real or blanks to cause the blade to vibrate Is there any merit to that or is it pure fantasy? more on attack Uh, an overly vibrating blade depending on which angle it's vibrating on would actually impact its cutting capacity in a detrimental way than enhancing it Um, especially if the vibration had on the kind of the sideways horizontal plane of the blade as it hits That word really mess mess things up, especially with your edge library and stuff. And so No, I don't think that that logic follows through all right Shad thoughts.  We got it I'll have a ball with that one If you could get a sequel to one movie, which would it be? I want a second social network so many possibilities and stories to tell since the first's events Hmm I don't have a stock answer for this. I feel like I should So would the sequel to the social network kind of be like, you know revenge of the sith where Falls from grace Becomes Darth Suckerberg Exactly um I wonder if we could include things like oh man, wouldn't it be cool that I think the matrix could work if it had a sequel?  It's like Or um Your predator would be like predator could work for more sequels like because you know I'm still not a huge fan of the sequel to that With Danny Glover. I like the first half It's good You drink on this 1972 Oh, look at the way I just crossed the finish line.  Well, obviously these are all idealized sequels. They're not. Oh, yeah, that that absolutely Titanic two Predator two is still good times. Yeah, it is. It is. I'm glad we have it D-fap two 12 angry men two. It'll be 13 angry men Yeah, I'm not I'm not sure the room two I'm surprised I didn't happen too fast too furious two again Hot fuzz too, I wouldn't want a sequel to any of the conato ones are great Yeah, what about Jurassic Park? I've never got any sequels There's probably good answers for this, but um, I'm just not coming up with anything. I'm sorry Me they're actually, yeah Marvel's what if what if Shang-Chi was a good movie? nice Also, we've done all in mirror mode now So what's left then? Um pretty much everything. I guess I was only doing I only did all the hardest stuff I didn't do any of the And I say that what I mean is like the longest stuff I guess rather than the hardest stuff On the longest stuff on hardest difficulty. So I gotta do all the shortest stuff on So like I gotta beat the mushroom cup on the hardest difficulty when I already did like the the four cups in a row thing, but that's fine. Yeah, I guess Um Thank you for your thoughts shad. That's nice I'm happy to share them I can't we can't do this one. It's buffy spoilers.   Don't ask buffy questions yet. Give it 10 years and I'm sure rags and more metal will have seen it by then I don't believe that show is real.  That's true.  Was he even bored? I do not know I'm sure the brown table video on Shang-Chi is going to be very funny Langoliers by Stephen King monsters outside of time eat all existence in the past Aeroplane pastures have to get back to the present before they get eaten Man, I think I watched like amazing atheist review that like a decade ago because I remember the whole like I'm pretty sure they made a movie adaptation of this is weird Um, hello to e-fap and chat diversity. Nice Chad would say hi. I'm sure of it Any second All right, you know, it's fine um Hey e-fap, could y'all do an impression of the jump grunt sound from quake What's the jump grunt sound? Oh, he does like a I think I played it recently, but I already forgot And what's this for you sound I like always remembers is the sound of them dying when you shoot them on I think easy mode The the randies in the first like levels and stuff that great I don't remember the jump grunt sound the quake guy does Every time you jump it was like Oh the Yeah, yeah All right rags fringy go do it I don't I don't know what the noise is Just I bet it's like 17 times now No, we're not okay. It's just we're just like going just going like a like a hurt kind of grunt. Yeah, there you go I think all four of us have done it in some way should perform now If jay meddling mean koum does fringy. Do that does fringy goo What does it mean for you to goo fringy? I don't goo.  He's not gonna let it get away that easy Damn right Shiba Inu versus horse-sized duck She wins easy No contest no contest Domination Indominus Inu Y'all ever watched nakey jakey youtube channel? Excuse me I that name's familiar. What is what does nakey jakey do? That's that's a that's a great name be nakey. Is he the one that's on like a Space hopper. Am I on the on my own track there chat? Let me know I'm waiting for chat's approval Exercise bowl Yeah, she sits on an exercise bowl. Oh, there you go. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen any of his videos But I'm aware of his existence. I never I've never heard of him You haven't lived. Yeah, I don't know who that is I've heard he crossed the finish line blame Do better. I'm gonna have to Rags, what do you think of the video tifa in the box? On the top your answers Tifa in the box. Yes Yeah, I don't I don't know what that is All right, he does not know what that is Uh p-0 6 is a loving ongoing remake of sonico 6 It makes a 2 out of 10 game into a polished 5 out of 10 game Lots of work going into it made by one person basically Wow Wow solid 5 out of 10 I mean if he's so is that like taking the game and then tweaking it until you fix it? Or is it building it from the ground up to just match sonico 6 as best it can but without being shit? Like be curious which of the two that is But um, yeah, no need Yeah, I got no That's a passionate science fan. I really like I guess I guess man I I the person who sent this I'm not I'm not gonna read it out. All right spoolers. Yeah, I gotta be curious to be careful but um If you think about why he made that decision Um to undo it that's gonna be the reasoning for why he would believe they would never be a scenario where it would be done But uh, I can understand you could say the same for the ring if you know what I'm saying person who sent this Anyway Did you guys know that orcas slash killer whales hunt mooses? I swear this is real I had no clue Yeah, I certainly don't know that Mooses like a moose if a moose is swimming in the ocean the orca just Just gulps it I have no idea. I'm trying to imagine. I would be I would be concerned that a moose would like struggle and poke it with its antlers or something Hmm I guess they're smart enough to account for the antlers Or would these orcas are pretty smart. They'd be like uh, they yeah Well, they're apex predators. They uh, they can go for anything they want best play Oh Shots Good old killer whales Um, I have clocked in over 300 hours in doom eternal and they put a little heart. I hope you had fun I hope you didn't Um, and that's that I that that quote is from a good. Why are you doing so many buffy spoilers today? Stop it Uh, y'all should try the recently added episode of quake one Recently added It's this Um in sunshine anytime. I'm in a secret level. I wish I could long jump Yeah, I think that's fair. That's not in sunshine, but it's in like most of the 3d mario's right long jump Uh in most games like crouch and jump I think Yes That's what he says Yo, do you do you like it when you you're low on health and you do it a little jumps and he sounds like it's dying She's like Don't worry mario. We're gonna do it I'm just gonna go on a water and come back up and then you have help again.  That's just your safe Yeah, I'm just thinking of that The pedo key obviously the pedo key are faced out of the water image. I'm just thinking about that. But yeah, yeah Um, mr. Longbone of beautifulington abbey.   Oh my god I forgot that you can get that through with youtube special thingy because yeah, that's That's pretty much in a no-no word territory.  I don't know Obviously it doesn't twitch. I just don't I don't think it doesn't youtube yet, right? I don't think it does yet. I'm not sure give it time Give it to yeah, it's one of those ones that I think will be soon Probably yeah Soon to have the big offensive my doom eternal battle mode tls top archville and marauder middle Mancubus and pain eternal bottom is revenant I don't know exactly what that means.  Yeah, it's only gonna get worse as we get older. Yay Today I heard you mentioned skins on the real bbc and it made me kumatini bit one of my favorite shows What do you think of it? I mean, I watched season one and possibly two when it was coming out I don't remember hating it. I remember having fun with it, but I don't know how it went I don't know if there was more seasons than that and I just remember it was crazy to see um The protagonist of skins turned out to be beast in the in first class And then he ended up being nicolas holt is in like lots of stuff now. He's like a He was in mad max fury road. He was in he was in all the x-men new ones Yeah, he was right Oh, wait, I just came first and I didn't unlock anything. I guess I did that one already fair enough What i'm trying to say is doing efat movies on avengers you massives, uh, also high again rags and shad man Hello, I think shad man and shana vs two very different people. Okay Oh, that is very true Um and as for a video efat movies on avengers, you'll you guys will probably get an mcu efat arc at some point We'll go through the log. That's probably the only way we're going to be watching shang chi Except for fringy Because he's a trooper UK hired a good actor to pretend he's australian to progress that lie that australia exists the voice actor had three Channels on youtube a robot head internet historian and meme repository Damn that covers most of them. Yeah The what's how do you explain the fringy guy? You don't exactly Unless you're just another operative. I don't know Um in america. Do we really? Do we even know fringy actually exists just saying? Uh, I mean you guys have all been reacting to him. I'm assuming he's real Why he's in your he's in your head too Hmm Fringy say something that only you would know that none of us would know that that we can verify Um, no I don't know Yeah, you kind of nailed it. All right. I believe shat They told you I do hear that this fringy loves jetpacks. So Jetpacks are cool I can agree with that.  I like english bulldogs Hmm, Australian kelpies are really cool Well, I mean I think you might you might be able to guess It's is it an afghan hound Oh, no, those are those weird looking ones. No, that's that's the really weird looking ones And they can't even swim Okay Oh male. I'm I'm disappointing you. You've seen the movie twice I'm embarrassed. I don't you should be because the last time you watched it was like two days ago Yeah, I'm gonna wait. I'm waiting until someone helps you out. I just play my maricot until they do You're just paddling there, you know, like you're drowning and nobody couple people in chat No, they can get your answers. I don't I don't have chat open right now. Oh, no Mel really is drowning. Oh, we watched suicide squad. It's the only movie I've seen this week Idiot Yes It's sort of been hidden enough I thought you guys would all get it what I said afghan hound Oh, I thought yeah, it's in the suicide squad It's one of the things they mistake weasel for but I thought you were talking about like just just an afghan hound No, when I said they can't swim I figured that would have been the big, you know, oh, I got you I just like the idea that Mel was like really they can't swim. Okay I don't know why that what does that have to do with anything? Seems mean Um, do you have a favorite? Oh wait. Yeah shad. Do you have a favorite type of dog? I mean, there's dogs. Yeah, I like I like huskies border collies Huskies are wonderful. Mm-hmm. Yeah Uh, and there's dog breeds that I really don't like.  It's like I feel genetically Yeah, I feel bad for them. I don't hate them. I just feel really bad for them I feel very I I just like normal looking dogs the dogs that look like they actually did descend from wolves So like kelpies huskies german shepherds Labrador's Those are all the Shiba Inus or I think she I remember do you remember the game in 10 dogs? Do any of you remember that? Yeah, I don't mean it but it might be a good game. Yeah. The dog I got was a shiba I thought they were really neat in that game And then there's like super adorable ones. I find the andrex puppy to be adorable I really like um corgis as well. They're kind of they're they're they're I don't really like small dogs a lot of the time But corgis are uh, they're little Fluff balls. Oh and for the record, I really like Yorkshire terriers. I find them adorable too. Oh, yeah No, I I I actually don't hate terriers at all But there are some types of terriers that I don't like at all specific terriers That's fake What was uh, I'm just trying to think of other more obscure I do really like kelpies though. I think um, I think long term in the future I would eventually want to get one I just would want to if I did that I'd want to live on a big Property like enough room for it to run around and do stuff kelpie makes me think of fish Well, I I guess I can understand why but it uh, it ain't a fish. It's the dog He's a good old Australian farm dog. I mean a kelpie could probably eat kelp, right? I imagine it would eat kelp and go with a small one space. Hey, we haven't The most famous kelpie is of course red dog The national treasure. Do you guys know about red dog? No, no Well the movie based on the real red dog. Yes Um, oh well basically. Yeah, so Red dog is like a uh, it was a kelpie who he belonged to I believe it was an american um I can't remember if he died or If he left But um, this little doggo went on an adventure like all across australia I think he even went to other countries just got on boats looking for his owner Um, he got all over the place. They uh, they built a statue for him and um in the town that he came from When you go there, they got a little statue of this dog. Oh, it reminds me a lot of um It reminds me a lot of gray fries Uh, is that what it was called?  Um, oh my god I think you I think you know, I want to make a joke. He's called seawall Seawall has a statue there and uh in edinbro I mean, I actually want to double check the the red dog story. I want to I want to I want to read this out for you um Let's see Cocoa was the name of the no the cocoa was the dog that played red dog in the film areas So red dog was believed to have been born in the town of hara birdoo in western australia In 1971 he had a whole bunch of names but um Collin Cummings believed to be his first owner brought him to dampere The nickname red dog has been attributed to the red dirt Of the pirabilla region Although red dog is a common nickname for red kelpies and heel as much in the same way as blue dog or blue Is a common nickname for australian cattle dog his second owner uh, john stazinelli a bus driver with uh Hamasley iron who took the dog with him in his bus with john Red dog traveled as far as perth broom roseburn Port samson and port headland for reference. That is a significant distance to travel Following stazinelli's death in 1975 red dog spends a lot of time traveling on his own He was also taken in by many members of the community and a veterinarian who treated him each time He visited the vet it was with a new owner red was made a member of the dampere salt sport and social club And the transport workers union and was also given a bank account in the bank of new south wales Which was said to have used him as a mascot with the slogan if red banks at the wales you can too Um, oh damn. This is sad. Although red dog was well liked.  He's got a statue In the town. Yeah, every like there was a little community dog Just he's he's he's just hanging around and every he went on adventures What a cool dog it is it is fun to think about these stories of like these animals that Probably unknowingly have created this massive legacy for themselves far outstripping that of most people Yeah, it's kind of interesting and they did it all by accident Um I prefer Mario Kart on the SNES metal equals hosenscheiber I don't know if that's offensive metal. I'm sorry if it is. I Not a big fan of super mario kart. It's it's it's okay, but yeah I don't think I ever played this next one It's uh, yeah, it's fun. It's um, it's just that it's uh I think that the series benefited greatly from the transition to 3d. Hmm Um, molly, you're a lesbunias now. Hi rags Hi Yeah, in chat probably unknowingly. Yes, probably unknowingly. Who knows what dogs know. Yeah I do Rags does wow Share the secrets. Nope Okay, well then you can't get upset if I don't want to share the secrets of the girl. Okay Not upset Okay, it's just disappointing.  I loved your commentary on batwoman and just finished watching your lord of the rings Defense much love. Hey Yeah, all kinds of bits and bobs to grab from each other this time right out of a banana I did I did Maybe I did it for a reason for me To prove a point You got dropped in front of it. That's unfair.  Shantung himself had a text message. Oh Oh, yeah, you actually heard that you hear my phone, but not me Well that we heard you talking about your phone Unless your text message notification is you going text message Which would be weird, but not, you know impossible She had it's weird that you do that, but I'm not going to tell anyone. Don't worry. I don't want to communicate with you a bit like not urgently Yeah, glad you found us and hope you're having fun I figure at this point if you type in efap and then a particular thing you like or a selection You'll probably find something that we've covered that you have interested maybe I accidentally bought the plushies separately. Oh That means you don't get the discount. That's how that works I'm serious Does anyone here watch survivor so addicting surviving I'm addicted to surviving I mean who's survival like survivor, but I don't watch that either I'm sorry Gosh so many references. We're not getting today Yeah, stop it Jen Um Will we ever get Bly Manor coverage? Also, he was excited for midnight masses. I am the answer to both of those is yes Yes Very excited for it.  Oh, I'm sorry But yes, we'll be watching it. Um, and I assume we'll be watching it in october times Do you guys remember when we'd finished? I think was it six episodes of Bly and then it was like some two people Want to go to sleep and we were like Uh, yeah It was Jay Jay was definitely Didn't we get to episode five and then I had to leave like I had to Was it I just remember that we wanted to carry on that's all Yeah, no, I didn't remember that Dude, I love it when I love content so much that I get that experience from just like I must see more I need it. Yeah. Yeah It's good man Oh, that was a mistake If Shad is still in Montreal, he should google le dragon rouge. It's a medieval themed restaurant tad expensive, but the atmosphere is fantastic Make sure we go here tonight for dinner. I'm not kidding. Whoa Wow, my god Who wrote this? Oh my goodness the simulation is breaking down Forgets who has the cheat codes And I mean and like I'm actually gonna have to uh See say goodbye to you guys like half an hour to an hour because that's where I'm going I'll be going to do it. Actually dragon rouge. Nice. We have to tell us all about it What is that translate through red dragon? Rouge dragon. Oh, right. Okay Maybe it's referencing the Welsh dragon Maybe yeah One you're saying that you've appropriate or alternatively the Welsh dragon was appropriated from this specific place in Montreal potentially I can't know for sure Um, I bought both plushies for my daughter I'm going to settle the ongoing debate of who is cuter between rags and mohler once and for all using science It's me. I somehow doubt your daughter's going to find the lovecraftian plushie cuter than the dark But we'll see My daughter might be a freak. Wow. No, I welcome all who find cthulhu cute. That's that's totally fair Um, hi rags Hi Oh my god, that was a loud one. Can you give me your pitch on why paladins is better than overwatch? Oh, um so I think there's a bit more customizability to paladins and In a way, it's I don't know. I've I've been frustrated like the last couple times. I've played it. Um I feel like there's a lot of just cheap character. I don't know. I think it's better but Like I've played at a decent amount and I've I think I've mostly enjoyed it, but It's Like there's customizability for characters in terms of builds and stuff But I feel like half the characters are just cheap and there's a lot of bullshit in the game Like in terms of characters you could just like leave they could press a button and teleport away or run away from you And a lot of the game is based off of trying to outnumber the opponent in terms of Can I do more sheer damage than their Healers can heal them and that sort of thing. There's a lot of meta combinations of things and I don't know. Uh I do I would rather play it than overwatch but I Don't know. I haven't really given it like a lot of thought. I just I just know the last couple times.   Here's Yeah, they're making uh overwatch too Which is just like an extra mode for overwatch. I was gonna say like All right, you guys remember when they did that with left or dead? I uh admittedly Left or dead two is the better out of the two but Man, that was a weird time because it really felt like they just not made much difference Felt like DLC But hopefully overwatch two will have significant difference. They are writing a story mode, but I don't know how much that's worth With everything for you. You like stories, don't you? I do like stories. I'm not sure how much I like overwatch a story though. Like um I like the last bastion a hell of a lot like that's I really enjoy that. Yeah, last bastion is great I don't know the rest of it. I've sort of changed my mind on a lot of those shorts I'm like, yeah, they're neat, but like they're not super impressive in terms of I like the last bastion. I like dragons and I don't know if I could qualify the other ones as being that great I recommend the standalone transformers versus terminator comic Cleverly spliced story of two franchises a terminator that isn't depowered in a t1 version saracana that even manages to get a kill in Transformers versus terminator Well, I think which one I don't know. This is all it says Hmm Um I think transformers would win pretty easily Um, I think so. Yeah, because like they have quite the weaponry Exactly and the side is you optimus would just be able to pick a terminator up and rip it in half, you think Toss it into space That would count as a win, I'm sure Uh, have you watched the thick of it with peter capaldi? No, but I've seen clips and it looks funny I'm assuming everyone else here has not seen it. I haven't seen it But spider gamathrons, right? I'm not gamathrons house of cards Uh, I don't know but maybe I think it did A chance meeting leads to the breach of taboos their eyes pregnant with passion fringy eagerly deposits his goo into metal's wanton blow hole No, no They're both saying no It is a little bit you liar. Is it still canon? Even if you guys say no It's not canon. It never happened. All right. Sorry super chatter Uh shad, what do you think of ender's game book series and the terrible movie? I love the book series. Um, uh ender's game, of course, absolutely phenomenal speak for the dead uh, some of the most insightful and creative kind of, uh The exploration and portrayal of alien life forms and how if it really goes along a completely different evolutionary path But it still follows its natural kind of progression How different kind of the creatures would end up also Scott card is I feel one of the greatest writers of the modern generation and he Um, uh, does not get the credit he deserves and uh, and so yeah And then uh, so the bean series when you follow because speak of the dead happened so much after ender's game And then he wrote several books kind of in between that are the more chronological sequels and stuff Really really enjoyable. He is a master of sci-fi or scott card The movie of course was disappointing. It doesn't hold a candle to the book yet As a just a movie by itself. I found it enjoyable. Uh, if I was to just rate it on its own Uh, but judged against the book. No, it doesn't it doesn't come close What's in scott card is uh, people don't like him right? Like some people don't like him He was he was very vocally outspoken against gay marriage and then people behind him devil as a result Um, and he he literally he got pilloried He's one of the first victims of cancer culture before people actually started to push back against the crap Uh, he's actually a tremendously Like kind and thoughtful person like I've uh, I've uh, I followed him for a long time reading his reviews and vlogs and stuff And you can just like if even if you see The how he represents other religious and stuff in his book like in ender's game itself He you can actually see he's a very open and considerate person He's also just very has his strong religious beliefs Uh, I mean, I don't like that take but you know, like it's not that big a deal But was he has he since does he separate the art from the artist?  I I the most the most recent thing he said on it was when the war passed he said, uh, yeah, the argument's over now now that's become the war of the land and uh And that's the end of the discussion is the last thing he said on the matter um Okay, yeah Which is fine. I'm just uh, I'm just because I'm I'm just so I'm good old wikipedia because I'm not I'm not super familiar with all this um uh Yeah, I think this takes sucks actually as I'm reading it but like it's um Yeah, it's whatever right. I haven't read uh, I haven't read ender's game that's the one where it's like they play video games to to Like prepare to fight a bunch of aliens, right? That like sort of the Uh, young kid Young kid recruited into kind of like a battle training school and uh To prepare to prepare for an alien invasion and I won't spoil the twist But it has a just a phenomenal twist. I think I might own that book actually. I'm not sure I think I'm brought it because you know, it's like one of those almost she was like required reading sort of things Oh, totally like if you're interested in sci-fi, um ender's game is like one of the greatest ever written serious, I will have to put on the list You should watch all of skin sometimes there were seven seasons and the characters get switched out every two seasons season seven Six episodes that show us what selected characters have been up to a good rat Well, that is an interesting little format. Um, yeah, maybe maybe someday Um Shad love you and your book very excited for the short film always thought your book would be great as an animated series Would you ever try that? Uh, yeah, if it ever came uh as a possibility, uh, I actually think um, it would translate quite well into anime There are certain kind of action sequences that I think anime would be able to just go Nuts with with the way that they're able to just do really over the top stuff at times So, yeah, it has crossed my mind and I think it would translate really pretty cool into an animation um Don't know if it'll ever come about because I would need to get the book translated into, you know Japanese first something but in terms of a western animation studio I don't know. See, um, I'm more skeptical if they could do justice, but there's a couple of good ones that could probably do an interesting job with it, uh it would work better in terms of Outlike when you know being produced in uh, you know In english-speaking things I think it would uh work better as a movie or a tv series Which is you know, we're actually exploring the possibility of pitching the um Shadow the Conqueror as a tv series or film to do with some potential investors or studios you see Crocodile versus tiger-sized brown recluse spider God Say so say the match-up one more time crocodile versus tiger-sized brown recluse spider crocodile-sized brown recluse So if the brown recluse can't penetrate the um The the crocodiles hide. I don't think it'll have any kill potential Yeah, I mean First thought would be crocodile, but maybe it's because I don't know enough about The brown recluse to know what kind of danger it would be to the crocodile. I guess But um, yeah Yeah, I am I'm not certain.  If yes, what do you think of it?  Whatever. Um Love how ritual of chud was useless in it part two Ritual of chud What have you guys seen it part two here? I haven't seen either of them. I have not seen it. No I still think I'd recommend the first one second one was a little bit meh Bill haters in the second one for any there you go Oh, okay I mean, I think he's pretty good active Yeah It's kind of interesting like uh Because it was he did he start on saturday night life He did he uh, he did some lines, but he was uh Briefly in the riders room for south park for like a couple of seasons. Hmm He was also the voice of Someone from it was clad with a chance of meatballs, right? Braggs you you I think it does a lot of voice actor. Bill hater. Yeah, I think he was um, I think he was flint That's the main character, right? Yeah, it's flint lockwood. Yeah Flint lockwood Fringy thoughts on tenet 2020 and the evil within I have not watched tenet nor have I played the evil within so I have no thoughts on either of them I've played evil then I played the second evil within and I enjoyed it quite a bit and I would recommend it I've been told it's better than the first one um I wasn't a fan of the first one Some stuff I liked in there director resting even for right Oh, I think so. Yeah, I remember that being part of the marketing Um, and yeah tenet we've not we've all of us haven't seen that yet. We'll have to do that or something I've seen it. Oh Does that count in this?  It was your favorite I was entertained, but I think it's very confusing and it don't think it makes a lot of sense. Wow What's the last movie I watched in the cinema actually? Damn tenet. Yeah, I I hear regularly that it just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense Is it that or is it that everyone doesn't understand it? It could be that but I feel like if the director is the only person who understands it There's like there's like one guy out there on stanzik one There's one guy who understands it.   It's Nolan.  I blame people like plenty of people encourage that industry What I was gonna say is that you do see those pictures of um Of animals about a hundred years ago and like how they've been kind of destroyed. Yeah Um, apparently german shepherds a lot of them. They're they're back tapers down a lot and that just makes it difficult for them And then you got like I think beagles have spinal issues and Yeah, like these animals they looked fine a hundred years ago, but then they got bred Completely into something else and it makes me sad It makes me really sad that we would do that because we want the dog to look a certain way Well, it's weird to me because like they'll often say like it looks cuter and it's like it doesn't though I don't think it looked cuter and also hard for it to be alive Exactly life is a lot harder. I don't find it cute when they die Like I actually do have kind of Quite negative opinion on like just breeding dogs in general and participating in it. I really don't like it Well, I'm fine with it. If it's not like if it doesn't hurt him or anything Well, yeah, sure, but I mean that I guess that there's more than that, right? Isn't isn't the uh, isn't the whole thing that there are just like a lot of dogs that Get bred.  There's a lot of dogs that get churned out And a lot of them don't get adopted or picked up and then they just oh like oh, that's yeah, I'm against that Yeah, no, I hate that but unfortunately That's like what happens when that's the system that's in place in terms of people wanting to get dogs bred, right? It sounds like it's it's it's a natural consequence of that system Mm-hmm I it seems like cats don't have this problem You know Yeah, I think it depends on what the end goal is Because you have dogs gets a lot of selective breeding for cuteness and stuff But I mean on the inverse look at horses like horses have become bigger and stronger Um, and because they started out tiny little things and now they're huge Oh, yeah, sure. Um, I mean because of course like selective breeding is kind of what created dogs in the first place But it seems like we went from really good results where we have like really healthy strong dogs that were Friendly to people and can do stuff like wrangle sheep To these dogs that could not survive on their own Yeah, the design captain like a bag that you just don't look at my dog. Isn't it cute? I know it always feels like I guess it always feels a bit weird that that it's almost like we're not respecting the animal by trying to keep it You know as as as a self-sufficient being that we that we had to turn it into something that is You're almost connecting a Jurassic park. We're just like you're trying to harness nature Stop it. Let it be. Well, I feel like it's not even a harnessing nature It's like it's kind of squandering it because like we're removing all these really cool aspects of dogs Just to make them look a certain way when the dogs that we have are perfectly fine Like I think the normal looking dogs would need you know We don't need to have all these crazy Breeds of dogs that like can't walk and need to get their spines operated on every couple of years um I'm fine with as long as if it doesn't create Like health issues and that sort of thing for the animal. I'm fine with selective breeding Sure, but a lot of the time it seems to you though like pugs Yeah, yeah, that's what snouted dog like from what I understand pretty much every short snouted dog Has a lot of difficulties What if we make changes so that it is absolutely healthy and fine if not literally lives a little bit longer But simultaneously cannot survive in the in the wild without human. Well, he just can't survive without humans um, I guess I'm not sure how I feel about that because I always get the concern I guess the problem is that we like we we don't just release dogs out into the wild Yeah, that's the thing or anything if they if if there is a situation where because they they lived They live to With people their entire lives and they don't exist in the wild at all. So in that sense Being able to survive in the wild doesn't have any Like point in that sense um So as long as Because there's plenty of like Plants and stuff that just do not exist out in the wild and Yeah, no Something like wheat wheat is from the uh the the um from like the middle east That's where it came from But wheat I might be wrong about that or talking about the corn documentary That I mentioned earlier You always find a way to get back to the corn documentary Look corn is interesting. I will say I I'm not denying the interesting corn. I I would know But I guess That that example right of like wheat came from one place in the world and now it is everywhere in the world And it's incredibly useful and in fact the presence of wheat Everywhere has made it to where there are a lot of societies that can actually you know like farm and and do that and have stable somewhat stable food sources um So I guess that's that's one to think about in terms of like the benefits of Creating things that are kind of entirely dependent on our survival I guess it's the idea would be as long as we assume that human beings are going to be around for a while Then um, yeah Yeah, if I'm fine with the idea of making an animal that can only exist in captivity If you take care of them as a result like you now have a responsibility in a sense Yeah, I I well, I mean, I absolutely agree if you take on an animal, you're responsible for that animal's well-being I got the impression And if I listen to what you said for me that you you're more appealing to they lose attributes And that alone is a bad like I I don't think I could possibly say that while also being like a hard core I want us to go into AI. I want us to build like cybernetic parts I want us to basically try and control our own evolution in a certain sense like not in the Like in terms of pushing ourselves forward and trying to improve ourselves and things like that I don't think I could have that stance while also saying but not animals You know just the way they are, you know more of an errant thought then because I found it interesting at all Oh, like I guess Go ahead Shad Oh, yeah Just an interesting side to this about the morality of creating human dependent animals Is that it doesn't necessarily come from like a malicious beginning where humans like animals the animal like the human Because the human is feeding them They don't need a hunt and then the animals are actually choosing to stay with the humans as much as the humans wanting them And then the natural byproduct of their cushy life ends up being the evolution that they become wholly dependent on They lose the attributes needed to stay alive independently And so it's just an interesting thing that this was also done by the choice of the animals because they also kind of preferred that outcome as well Now that that is an interesting point that you raise there because you're right like it started off as a mutually beneficial um relationship But then you have to think about like for instance a lot of animals in the modern day like is the cow There the cow is incredibly evolutionarily successful If if the only metric for success is how many of you are there but The average health of I think the average health of the animal and it's longevity So that's that's where i'm going right is that if you look at it purely from a numbers game of how many of them Are you if that's what evolutionary success looks like then cows are incredibly successful But if we're talking about how happy these animals are Cows are not very successful at all. I'm I'm sure that the average Well, well, I mean Well, it's it's the whole idea that like for instance the chicken right like a lot of chickens get kept in um And like these tiny little cages Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's that's that's what i'm getting at right is like the average chicken Probably would have been better off out in the wild doing its own thing than where it is right now um It is provided everything that it needs to live but not live happily or comfortably And it's kind of the issue of the psychological needs of animals, you know all animals including humans it's just um It's not really accounted for and just keeping everything alive and existing Wild cows would stand no chance against predators. That doesn't change anything that i've said What what do you mean that that wild cows existed for a long time? like and even then that's not There there are animals that have predators that would probably be better off psychologically existing out in the wild than living in captivity I don't know Cows are capable of defending themselves to a certain extent, especially the bulls and stuff like i'm sure that i'm sure they are yeah Yeah, like we we used to cross a paddock on our way back from getting dropped off of the bus stop And uh, my brother got chased by a couple of cows ones and it wasn't the bulls They were just the cows and he totally got freaked out. He came home crying Yeah, i'm i'm sorry. I gotta call someone out and chat.  What what is what's your problem? What like oh my god A tree i don't know why you would be completely and utterly like indifferent to the welfare of animals I mean that's what i'd be curious to extend that to dogs and then You know, well, I mean that's that's when you get into the real black pill, isn't it when it comes to like the welfare of animals Everyone watch blackfish.  You just watch and you just get really sad about the state of the world with animal care So anyway I don't disagree. I I don't know so here's the thing like You can you can simultaneously be like, yeah, i'm okay with just i don't know like meat consumption and stuff like that while also Not wanting the animals to suffer horrendously in the process Yeah, um those are two entirely They are not Uh contradictory things at all That's the yeah, that's what i was referencing before is battery chickens and pretty sure that's what they're called with it Basically just born and bred to be eaten.  Bojack. Hi Bojack But you know, I'll do you better Bojack did a thing except it doesn't make sense because Bojack is in a world where chickens are like human beings basically So it doesn't really make any sense. Um, but I mean, I feel like this is the If it was like the inevitable end points is that we we just are able to organically grow meat Yeah, we're already getting there right an animal that feels like the natural end point I've seen some kind of fake meats that are actually Really close because I mean animals essentially convert like organic matter into meat Like cows eat grass and stuff and hey and but there's a mix But still they're essentially converting that type of input into meat And so, you know people are starting to try and figure out almost close ones And I think yeah, you're right the end result will be would be out of make it ourselves Um, I think but actually have it yeah And have it be basically meat like not have it be a meat substitute that we're actually getting to the point Really is basically meat. You can't tell. Um I I think that probably would be that would be that would be ideal. Um Um That well, yeah, and if it becomes way more like way cheaper and way more efficient then that's going to change the world Yeah, as soon as it becomes cheaper and if it tastes just as good it'll flip on a dime instantly like, um Yeah, I a few things in chat.  I'm having a great time And um, there was another one to pray animals live comfortable lives in nature I'm not sure that it's like a matter of comfort It's kind of like if you if you've developed as an animal to be a prey animal I wonder what that means psychologically in terms of the things that you value and care about The impression that I get is that the lives of a deer is basically la la la la eating grass Oh, no a wolf. Oh no, and then it runs away and then as soon as the wolf's gone. It's like, ah, yeah grass I'm so happy that's the impression I get I could be totally wrong but you know And then when they're in the cages they're forever waiting to be like, when am I gonna when's when are we doing the walking around stuff? Don't look up veal. I don't need I saw the south park episode on veal. That was like, uh, that was one of them Oh god, like I didn't know that um Yeah, yeah, and so the the answer of course is like free range chickens and stuff Which there is a lot of farmers and companies doing that and uh, and that's that's a perfectly appropriate answer But there are like some like there are chicken farms that have them locked in like pitch black sheds with no grass or anything and they They are piled in shoulder to shoulder and they have so many hormones to grow bigger You know breast meat and stuff that they're so fat that they can't even walk um And they're just kind of just flailing about in in crap just in their own feces Um in this pitch black shed Yeah, it it's basically just the clear example of Survival does not equate to like happiness in terms of just the that there is a distinction between the two um When it comes to especially animal like it doesn't really matter how happy they are because they can be you know Turned into massive meat and then sold and and then you just keep going over and over What Let me see Nice Oh, wow, that was incredibly lucky. That was all bad Um If intelligence is important, that's why i'm eating against eating octopus and pigs the same way most people would be against eating dogs Yeah pigs is the one that i'm starting to get a little complicated on i'm not sure how i feel about that anymore um I don't know pigs are apparently quite intelligent I know octopus are intelligent. They use tools. That's uh So really question. Yeah, would you object to eating dog and like if it was humanely, you know cut up? Wow, you see it affected normally This is what i'm talking about. This is where like it starts getting weird It's like I would not like the idea of eating a dog I was like, but you would like the idea of eating a pig or conversely Well, what's the problem? Like it's a dog, right? So then you have to start trying to figure out where you stand your principles in place You got to get your prints. Yeah And that gets real complicated. I've listened to loads of vegan meat eater debates and it's uh, that's a tough one Um, what do you think about other people eating pigs and be on a spring even if it'll make you sound like a vegan? Dude, like pork and bacon is my favorite meat I really like pork. I really like ham and I really like bacon But I also like pigs just as animals So that's that's the part where you're just like, hmm I'm just trying to figure it out. I think it's I think it's difficult because it's just the whole thing of like Well humans are omnivores and that's how we you know, that's how we got here. We ate meat and meat is delicious um And but also what are our obligations to just animals in general? Do we as people want to assume the position of Hey, let's um, you know, basically be like earth's custodians and try and take care of it And uh, take care of the things that live on it. Um, at least not or you know to an extent that is reasonable Not to the point where we're like significantly compromising our ability to improve as ourselves as well um, I don't know feels feels like uh It feels like a difficult, um Things to reconcile that's all tough to try and figure out how to keep your principles in order Oh, the super chat that just came up was uh, it's just freaky a pig would eat you so don't sweat it Oh, yeah, I'm sure that like lots of animals would eat the dead version of me. Um, That's getting rid of using pigs is a great way to get rid of bodies Yeah, um, but I mean that's not Like I don't know if that's my metric for whether or not I should help an animal Will they eat me? I I do feel because of our greater capacity for empathy and understanding There's a stronger responsibility on us as humans than I think so. Yeah Yeah, we're we didn't hold ourselves to a higher standard We have the intelligence and the means to do it where other animals don't so I think that we should Um, like I I don't think that's unreasonable at all as a position Very well, uh rags out right dead space one is weird on pc That is the any of y'all have played it it is it is wonky on pc that was that was right But that was before now that space two and three they play great on pc I was gonna say what was the main criticism because I think I played on pc kind of everything from the controlling from from aiming when it comes to a mouse To the physics breaking when the fps gets like anything over, you know x amounts There's uh, there's not a good point. It's not a good point.  Well, almost I remember I think we are for the most part because Didn't work like uh, the rest of which was all fucked up when I started trying to stream it Yeah, I mean I'm not I'm not doom and gloom about video games one of the one of the really good things Especially in terms of modern video games is that pretty much the when it comes to like pc ports a lot of them aren't even ports and generally they tend to be pretty good I think companies are starting to finally just like They like money I'm one of brothers like the worst The one of the worst when it comes to ports Absolutely, they're one of the worst when it comes to ports. Yeah Mortal Kombat X and 11, um Batman Arkham Knight I guess the Witcher 3 was a pretty good port, but that feels like more of a project red thing A port to what? Well, like oh, well, I wouldn't call the Witcher 3 actually on pc a port like the console versions are more like a port Um, it was just the idea of the pc version of their game was pretty good And that was published by Warner Brothers In some countries I think Well, yeah, in some countries like the local it had localization issues or some countries Oh, no, no, no, I'm saying the witch Warner Brothers the publisher the games publisher is pretty bad when it comes to pc ports But the Witcher 3 which I think was distributed in some regions by Warner Brothers is a pretty good, you know version on pc That's that's basically what I'm saying Mm-hmm. Let me double check that though. Um Yeah, Witcher 3 was Oh, no, it was published by a CD project. Okay. I thought it was I thought it was Warner Brothers. All right There you go Remember Balto Balto 2 Balto 3 Balto 4 and Balto 5 I never saw those. I've not seen them either. That was just some of the movies I've I never I never never ended up seeing the Balto Uh movies I haven't seen The what was that Oh, I've certainly heard of Balto, but no, I haven't seen them either And you didn't miss out anything on Zootopia. It was I didn't like it I like Zootopia, but I think I need to rewatch it I saw it once In a room that had people talking in it. So I don't know if it counts. All right Guys, I'm surprised that you yeah, a lot of people think that of course I've seen Zootopia. No, I haven't Wow, that's a surprising answer. Um Angel Dance from season one is precious agreed Agreed you guys should play Total War Warhammer. It's objectively best Total War game When it comes to RTS is believe it or not like within the last week On a whim a friend and I were just looking for co-op games and we started Playing starcraft 2 And I kind of got back into that. I'm playing it now. It's just it's a neat game I was like, ah blizzard's already got my money.  I guess you'd yeah That's the thing you think you'd think a lot of things if you uh played video games.  They stopped supporting it. So the game's 10 years old I like when games continue to be supported, but if a game lasts for 10 years I'm okay with it not getting supported after that and it got three campaigns Yeah, it got three different campaigns So it's it's not like it. It's not like they just dumped it out and left it um Yeah, I don't yeah How long should a game be supported is kind of a complicated question Right, it's like because it's gonna be down to as long as they complete their job in terms of the game And I guess it's up to the developers how long they want to support it And I think there's a lot of community stuff Uh in terms of maps and modes and things that you could uh play So I I mean it seems to be a a good example of things being supported What game is this again? Sorry that you saw starcraft 2 Yeah, I mean 10. Okay, right. Does that mean that they're maybe making a third one then Well, maybe but I think the existence of wizard activation as a legal entity is in question I suppose at the moment. Yeah, well, I mean it seems like they're actually like seriously in trouble. Um, they might really be You know having having a big problem here in terms of their yeah continued existence as a company I know that um I mentioned it. I mentioned it a couple of times, but call of duty presents The new call of duty not activision.   It looks yeah by call of duty standards It it it looks like a mobile game It looks like a worse risk inversion of modern warfare in 2019 and like it clearly is Copy as using a lot of the same animations and like infrastructure. You can see that in that game dude call of duty like Black ops cold war didn't look that good either. It's like what what happened? You had like this one game that was cool and then you just back to normal again They really need to like make changes to that series. They can't keep doing it like this Well, I guess they can because it's probably gonna sell really well Yeah, as long as it sells Yeah Oh my goodness gracious gracious samigara's fault is scary. I don't know why amigara's fault is I don't know that is no are so many references that we're just we're just blanking on today. Sad Yeah, I just don't know Sounds like is it a band is it a dlc in some horror game? I don't know Best but tracer miranda lawson or helena harper helena harper Who's that they're from resin evil, right? I'm assuming tracer is from over. Wait. Sorry.   I'll trust you guys.   I hope you have a great rest of your trip Sounds like you're having a lot of fun Oh, it's been mad fun. Things have certainly wound down though. Um, I've kind of done most of the most of the stuff Shooting has wrapped up and that was that was amazing. Um, and so yeah now we I'll be heading back to our home on monday Oh, yeah, I got yeah So I got to go to Quebec that was amazing Quebec city, I mean and I stayed in the chateau from Tanac and it was It's time pretty I show Quebec city is basically like a like a little little Paris and Canada, right? That's kind of what it is. Yeah, it's probably one of the most beautiful probably the most beautiful city Right But uh, all right guys, uh, I have a cool party rest of the stream and I will catch you catch you another time Doodle bit. Yes. Hello See is Um in october blind manner is coming to blu-ray with directors commentary of some episodes one of the episodes with commentary is episode five I think I'll be buying that I would like to know the thoughts of the director and actors on All of those episodes are good stuff. I've got the blu-rays for a Hill house. I will be grabbing that as soon as I can Um, hi raggy long man and others Hello. Hello How would you make sure a story surrounding a character with godlike powers stays interesting? Um, just do what one punch man did. I mean that's obviously one option. Um, I'm a big fan of Like jay was talking about on twitter the other day Just you can make a superman game where the stakes are not Can you be defeated but rather? Um, how many collateral damage basically? Well, you can involve property interactions with governments and then civilian lives. Yeah I mean, you there are plenty of games where rts's and Forex types of games where the player themselves isn't even like an entity or your personal You know health and safety are never in question. It's what you control in your investment in the things that you have You know essentially command over and there's no reason you can't do that with a superman game You just take more of a personal role and not to suggest something that feels almost just boring at this point But um, you know, your concern could just be let's hope he stays invested in saving people this guy Let's hope he doesn't get any of the normal human problems and thoughts and feelings and if he's truly unstoppable, you know Let's hope he doesn't get a star fringy. You're saying don't focus on the person with godlike powers at all I mean, I don't feel like one punch man doesn't focus on one punch man, but I mean that's weird I don't know. I don't know how any all of our suggestions so far are gonna involve the pov of the the hero or well the creature Whatever the pov is probably the really important is One of the most important parts of making this story work. I think Also sabre tooth tiger versus a liger What is a liger So cross between a lion and a tiger a bread for the magic Ah, I see. Um, I guess the liger would probably win that one I don't know. It depends on what traits you get You know, because maybe if you cross two things, maybe it's just a weaker version of both of them Or maybe it's a stronger version of both of them. Maybe it has that I don't know. I don't know. Maybe and what behavior does it have the behavior of the lion or the tiger? Yeah Because of as the behavior of the tiger, I think that it stands a better chance I'm not sure about with the lion because lions tend to hunt in packs Whereas so it's uh, typically hunted a lion Let's take a look here Liger The liger is a hybrid offspring of a male lion and a female tiger.  Yeah, that's wikipedia I'm looking at the same article because I will keep using wikipedia versus the liger is distinct from the similar hybrid called the Taigon Which I assume the gender is swapped. Um They enjoy swimming which is characteristic of tigers. They are very sociable like lions Okay, they grow larger than either parent species Really interesting Okay, um Let me see here. Uh, I feel like that makes that more likely that they'll uh Apparently they have a lot of health problems and they can't breed like they're This this looks like the fertility of hybrid big cat females as well document blah blah blah blah In hybrids of animals whose sex is determined by sex chromosomes if one of the two sexes is absent rare Airbase that's higher. So male ligars are consequently sterile Female ligars are not I'm not. Yeah Um, I'm trying to look at the Well, I think the problem is we can't get behavior because it seems like all lakers are basically in captivity So we don't know how they behave out in the wild Yeah, because these these these two groups they don't meet in the wild Tiger and lions What what's interesting though is that yeah in the in the in the wild like naturally these two are The distinct species from one another that have been separated from each other for god knows how long And yet they could still interbreed I guess that is uh, just is it isn't just because could a leopard like breed with a with a mountain lion? Is that I don't know Um, could uh could I huh? So one thing that's that I thought it was very interesting right was alt history earth Uh, if you want to you want an interesting idea for a book or a world Here's one you could take this to the bank and smoke it alt history earth Columbus never sails the ocean blue Europe never takes an interest in the new world for whatever reason And so humans From the old world in the new world. They never meet they never make contact thousands and thousands of years go by Many thousands maybe the old world humans got their way sooner Whatever whatever you want to be right they eventually give it enough time they Speciate they become two distinct species that can no longer interbreed Boom and then they meet do that I guess, um, it would be very difficult to justify why they would never meet I think that would be the hard part like why would nobody have ever gone to america Uh, you could make it a anything from a if you want to change you could try to change stuff up in terms of Make it probably the easiest thing is humans got to the old world way sooner than they did before That they're sort of developing at about the same uh the same time You could do maybe like crow magnans and neanderthals and stuff. They don't get wiped out I like the idea of the neanderthal not getting wiped out that to me feels like a potentially very rich story idea Yeah, like we could we just have a medieval society at some point where these two species like coexist Species feels weird to describe different human like yeah, because yeah, because in this they would be two different species I guess that's why I find it an interesting idea because it's like It's saying like they're actually different, you know, they're different people that it's not like it's not just different flavors and details It's actually distinct species. They can't even breed with each other anymore.  Um, I guess I'm pro magma if it doesn't melt anyone I'm pro magma because if it's it's not on the surface because I feel like if it's on the surface it like burns things So I'm pro magma. I'm I'm anti lava Okay to address the the shadow You mentioned that like until the enlightenment there wasn't you know tech was comparatively stagnant So I I can totally see that I think what I find harder to believe is that as technology improves that there wouldn't be That we wouldn't just inevitably go to the new world Like if we assume that you know christopher columbus and all that but technology just keeps advancing I guess We would have to assume that the age of enlightenment Just doesn't happen or occurs much much later.  Um, I guess the problem is I guess the ideal Go ahead. Yeah. Oh, I was I was just gonna say that I guess I don't know that I see the psychological happening without also the uh The the the technological happening. I feel like they were quite into links In maybe you could find a way to make a worker have it be you could either have a Religious reason for technology not uh progressing maybe um, you could have a Hey, it's it's sort of I think it's both in warhammer 40k Like, you know, why does technology not keep improving and getting way and way and way better? there's I think there's there's physically A an aspect of you're not even allowed to develop new technology culturally Um, but also there's there's some kind of like force that keeps them from kind of I don't know. I'd have to read up more on it. Um, but you could have you could literally have a Maybe a god of technology that exists that that keeps You know mortal creatures from developing too good of technology. I guess you know, that's that's an idea I guess the difficult part would be human beings just kind of like try to optimize things So yeah, well I was getting to yeah So like if I make a have find a world or something it will be like how good if you don't have You don't have What would an example be If you for instance knew how to make a steam engine And you were transported back into the medieval ages There would be applications that you could use that in right because you just have the knowledge about it, right? So so think about a a renaissance Era, you know civilization who just who never progresses past that But what it means is that they get super good At that level of technology You had they're very very efficient at everything They they've used it for so long and they improve it improve it improve it That it's just everything is incredible for that level. It's like the ideal peak version of what that tech level would be And everyone is like you like you could theoretically Have a have a have a situation where you know class stuff isn't as you know, there's there isn't he's big of a class divide a relatively Like may progressive modern kind of society They just don't they just never developed the new technology. They just had to read Like uh like um streamline what they had and make the stuff they had more and more and more efficient Um and and you could throw in stuff like you know printing press here and there stuff. That's reasonable, right? Um, you know you could do something like that Or yeah, everyone's still sailing on the ocean, but the ships are amazing They're still constrained by having like masks and sails and there's only so big you could there's only so You know how there's only a certain size that you could make a boat out of wood But man, they'd be amazing Because they've just done it for so long and they never Yeah, so if you I I absolutely think you could make the premise work I think you'd have to put a lot of work into explaining why it developed this way though because of course There's a reason why we went to the new world Like these things happen, um Or maybe don't because that's the thing I guess you have to go either hard one way or the other you just never explain it and it's just a fact of the universe I no one ever brings it up or you have to come up as I feel like it's almost in a situation like that Trying to explain it might be something people could poke holes in depending on what the explanation is Instead of just it's like it's like lord of the rings. It's been thousands and thousands and thousands of years And we're still hitting each other with swords We adjust this is you know the way the world is I I guess that is the thing you have to either call attention to it or don't Like don't don't do the middle ground where you sort of half-ass it I guess it's just um, I guess Then again, what I would say is that usually The if the nature of the world is significant to why this plot is happening. I kind of do think that you need to uh provide answers Yeah, you could throw in the throw in the details and the throwaway lines where Where it's like people don't even believe it's possible in a sense to make a make a ship out of iron Like you can't make a ship out of metal.  But like you know biplanes and things like that like combustion engines like Yeah, right Right, apparently did you say that uh, did you say that like science something to do with the church was that because You could have like I mean, yeah, you could have like what if you could because that's thing religion It's it's it's the bullshit excuse for anything you want in a fictional universe Well, I think the reason why because in chat it's being brought up is that the interesting misconception is that the church was opposed to science Fuck it's complicated because like a lot of scientific A lot of stuff that happened during the age of enlightenment was from people who were both religious and also spurred on by By certain religious sentiment Yeah, so like for a long time. We didn't really get anywhere And whether or not that was because of religion is like you could you can make the argument But like the age of enlightenment there was there was Definitely like religious elements to it for sure. Sure. You can have like if you try to there's there.  Yeah Yeah, yeah, you're like, oh, that's no we don't do that. That's that's bad. That's that's it's heresy That's an aberration against the natural world You you can't do that. This is no no.  It's evil. It's immoral It goes against the you know the the way that the the god or god's intended things to be Don't do it or or the the legends and cautionary tales that speak of Mechanical monstrosities from the sky or whatnot and we can't do that We don't want to do that because we don't want to draw attention from the evil spirits of the beyond so we have to know Stay where we are you come up with all kinds of different reasons for it you could I mean another another possibility would be what if there is like a god entity in this universe who has for whatever reason deliberately kept these different parts of humanity separate and has for a long time prevented On purpose the ability for people to travel between the two regions and then just at some point for whatever reason People can just start traveling again freely And then somebody eventually discovers that and we see what happens.  I think although I might be thinking of hammer of dawn You're not hammer of dawn He was a war no Yeah, I I confuse it. Um Just now it's I The hammer of god, it's arthur c. Clark. Okay. Okay.  It could just be an insanely super powerful race of aliens or just some Form of life that exists that was controlling him and it dies for whatever reason It just ends it it gets the end of this lifespan gets sucked into a black hole Whatever and then boom It's influence over this race of mortal creatures suddenly and inexplicably ends and they have no idea what causes it But they're starting to think new thoughts and do new things And that's where your story begins and to them they never know why But it's like yeah, they they had no say in it. It just sort of happened this cosmic accident has Released the minds of all these people So the story begins So anyway nightfall was cool nightfall was a novel about a race of uh, it was a race of uh humanoid creatures on a planet and The planet is surrounded by suns that has the solar system has a few suns So there's always light. It's always light.  It's not that long. I would highly recommend it. It's got some It's a it's a neat story.  Yeah That would be a trio. I remember liking Pitch black and chronicles of riddick. I never saw the third one. They were very silly, but fun. I I like them I would hope pitch black holds up I hope so too. It had the chick from uh, farscape.  I would have liked to see that Jone dark Joanna doc wait.  I've never played it like jone doc. Sorry uh Yeah, who's that from you don't know who jone doc is I feel like i'm blanking maybe my god. I'm disappointed Also It takes place on a state station on uh Like a like an outpost science fiction outpost I think the reason why i'm getting confused is because isn't joanna doc the name of uh, the the in in perfect doc Oh, we said jone doc. I don't know. Yeah Oh It's one of our favorite characters. I guess you've never heard of her Oh, right is uh, do you not remember old jone dark from that movie we saw you didn't see I didn't watch with you guys Which movie are you talking about? Isn't joan doc is in some doom, right? Yeah, doom annihilation Yeah, I've seen doom annihilation You haven't I think no, I wasn't he doesn't watch the e fat movies. He's not a part of Oh No, I don't watch the e fat movies. I'm a part of like why would I watch the vote already? I watch all of them. I watch all of them. I probably watched some of them. Yeah That was a fun movie to watch. I I enjoyed I think I enjoyed doom annihilation more than the first doom in terms of I didn't I can confirm that much. I really like watching the rock overreact to things I love a lot of his I doom is a movie I saw a whole bunch when I was younger the first one I just I love his delivery for so many things so silly.  It shoots him in the neck They are both very funny Carly up and says Carly up and sees him like, you know coughing up blood and he shouts it was his first mashing It's like Carl that has nothing to do with It was a second mission. It'd be fine to shoot him, you know He never shoots someone on their first mission and the rock snaps back with and it's not gonna be my last He's very emotional about it doom Guys these movies are great.  I don't know what is actually really good. It's like hey, it's not it's like gary from nidrodic said You'll like if you have right up until they come to something you love and they will eventually Well, yeah, yeah And it's okay to say it shit, but I like it. It's okay. It really is it's just fine But yeah, doom's bad Doom is really bad. I which which one of the two is worse. Do you think easily annihilation? Like and I doom 2003 they actually because I think I said this when we were watching it I remember seeing behind the scene stuff. They did work hard on that film They tried it just wasn't very good. Like um, they they all took like soldier training and and there's people on board Who really like the games and wanted do you remember the there's a video game section in it?   Yeah I I think I think I um Yeah, I I like them both. I think I do like annihilation better. I feel like it just I don't know some about it It's tough to say I I like how they reuse like a staircase like three different times Yeah, and they would take a hallway and they change the color of the lights And try to repurpose it, you know, it had that Like a like like a what like a don doler Well, so annihilation is like really close to a b-movie while doom 2003 is just a bad high budget movie It is Remember the boy friend Rises like we were all trying to pick whether or not he would be killed for an emotional payoff And they literally established like we used to go out with color. We don't anymore Maybe we can get back together once we save the day a door opens and just gets eaten It's it's shocking it's like, you know, you know how in movies you have I don't know if you guys have heard of this but you have what's called colloquially a setup And then after that A period of time You know occurs then there's a payoff Right, which harkens back to that original setup, right? It's like you're planning something to happen in a movie, right? That sounds like hard work Yeah, it is it's a lot of work for some people some people put a lot of effort into it Uh, you know your your blind manners your your nobles your all you know all that stuff out there, right? but Um, if there is literally like two seconds in between your setup and payoff I mean that's still I mean Like we got look we got aliens to shoot Well, I think what was strange moller about doom annihilation was the entire ending sequence when she goes to the hell world Oh god. Yeah, that was way higher budget because it was done by a different studio Yeah, it looks good And it it looks so good compared to everything that had occurred before it.  She comes back through.  I I hope there is I hope there is I that's that actress deserves another chance to play Joan Yeah, incredible character but Such an awesome doom is kind of like resident evil in this doom is like a not Oh, um, apparently it comes to movies apparently it's official There's gonna be one. No, no, no people saying in chat. So apparently they've they've announced this so I can tell you guys Do you know Friday night tights his next guest is gonna be No, Alex Jones Gina Oh really? Alex Jones. Yeah, because I was like, whoa Wow, that's how they managed to get him.  It's like that's probably the closest we'll ever guess I I'll be watching that episode I think Yeah, yeah, I that'll be interesting. But um When it comes to movies Doom is like the shitty version of resident evil like the the less successful version of resident evil like they're all bad But resident evil just keeps on getting movies made They just keep going. There was like six of the originals and then there's the the computer ones that they did and then now One there's gonna be not only another live action film, but also a tv series on Netflix too. Yay live action And doom is just like will we have two movies and like they both the shit they probably didn't make any money whatsoever Sounds like you're trying to make the meme like a strong doge and the weak doge like We have you guys have a wonder though like about the decisions that are made in terms of films It's like that are based on video games. It's like, okay, so we got Not only like two tomb raider movies, but also a reboot of tomb raider uh like Well, yeah three with um, you have the two with what they're faced Yes, that's yeah, there were two originally and then there was a third one What's her name? Angelina Jolie Angelina Jolie. We have two of them. We had two raider than cradle of life Yep, and then there was the reboot one, which was just the most It was it was a thing. I didn't see that one. Yeah, so I saw in theaters with my dad and I like I thought it was in terms of like it's it's it's probably super shit But I was like, I'm pretty sure I watched it I watched it on a plane and I was just like, oh, this is like generic action It is very generic action movie. It is generic action Yeah, no cool nifty things in there, but it's like they took the the original reboot from what was it 2016 or something? From 2013 2013 was clearly based on the reboot. Oh, yeah, it's got Kimiko and everything and the island and all that stuff Um, but uh our gimmick. Yeah, no not Kimiko. Um, but yeah, they uh Clearly based on that video game. It's not very good. I was entertaining. It was just a standard But um, I guess the the point I was getting out is that I've always found it weird the choices to be made in terms of video games that have been adapted you got like Tomb Raider Resident Evil doom and like Prince of Persia And and Mortal Kombat several times and just sort of sitting there like Why is there not been a halo? Like I know that there's been a project that's been in the pipeline, but that never happened and halo was monumentally popular For for a time there makes you wonder and like Uncharted's getting one now Which I suppose makes a little bit more sense. I thought halo and bio shock are Properties that like movies were fussed around with for a long time, but just never happened Yeah, Peter Jackson was uh involved as a producer. I