Welcome to the nintendo prime podcast episode. Hey everyone. Hey It's not Mike I Just started closing tabs and I meant a podcast though some sort of technical difficulty on our side. That's how we do it. All right. All right. All right, so let's restart this here Hey everyone welcome back to the nintendo prime podcast episode 61 I am your host as always Nathaniel Rumpful jance mister nintendo prime across the table for me is the coast as always Eric more. How's it going bud? Good good. How's going everybody and then behind us on the screen? We got some new faces at the channel first up. We got Mandy Lee plays. How's it going? I'm good. I didn't expect to be on the TV, but hello. Yeah, it's a very different type of setup, isn't it? Yeah, well, yeah, hi. I'm Mandy from Mandy Lee plays And nice to meet you guys if you guys know me say hi. I know some of you in the chat There you go. So got some Mandy Lee play fans in the chat and then on the bottom of the screen we have unhelpful Yoda aka Justin, how's it going buddy? I am really good and then to the top right the sexiest man in Florida Mr. Mike Odyssey, how's it going bud? Going good dude. I mean that there there are I mean, I'm not gonna say that there are six your man for us. That makes me sound weird Why I live in Florida, I'll just Hello Florida in But yeah, I mean doing good doing good. I mean then a crazy day But yeah, I made it. I completely forgot today was a podcast again, but you know, I swear you forget it every time Yeah, I literally be talking here in the day on Wednesday And you'll won't even mention the podcast and then you'll show up 10 minutes late Yeah, but they may is so faithful to to send that discord thingy when I see a little alert. Oh, we had today's podcast Well, I'm glad to have all you guys here, it's awesome Thank you by the way big shout out to Mandy Lee plays and unhelpful Yoda stepping up today we had other plans for this show and You know the best laid plans just Fall apart. That's just the way it's kind of like a tradition at my channel No matter how many guests I plan and no matter how many people commit, you know what in the end I'm just gonna start planning out 10 guests a week and if they all show up sweet But I'll just plan on eight of them cancelling and then we'll be good Five today, so that's good man. Yeah, well there was at 1.7 committed to today Seven and then they all canceled and then these were new these were new additions But that is all righty And I know in particular for for Mandy you have several advocates in my community because they've been begging me to get you on a podcast For like a year. Oh, yeah Been like a year.  All right Well, let's get to how we start off every single podcast and that is with what have we been playing lately? And I've actually been playing some things Eric conveniently left his switch at my house Conveniently actually wanted to play That's how you notice it was missing. Yes It would have been funny if you would have got here Yeah, this week and I would have brought this up and you would have you would have looked at me Be like I haven't had time you also didn't have your switch Yeah No, I wanted to play. I just didn't have my switch. It was here. It was here. So We'll just get past Eric cuz he didn't play anything. Was that Mike? Well, we gotta see what what do you have been playing if you had your switch? I actually think about playing some turtles TMNT Shriders were rich. Yeah. Heck yeah, I think it's fun. Dude might be one of the best beat-em-ups ever Alright, so let's go to Let's go to Justin Justin, buddy. What have you been playing lately? I Haven't played a whole lot this week. I've been busy at work But I finished Yakuza three like last weekend. Nice the first time. Oh Wow Cool. I'm on the second one. So what are you are? What what what? What are your your opinions about the game now that you finished it? What's your what are you left with like feeling about it? It was okay. I kind of like zero better It's been getting worse as I go through the series not bad, but like I think starting at zero and playing the two Oami games might have been a mistake because it just reverses aren't as good as the Remakes and zero they're still good games like they're they're all fun RPGs. So Interesting interesting interesting. All right, Mandy. What have you been playing lately? I've been playing fire emblem three hopes. I'm on my second route and Some Xenoblade Chronicles 3 On the side, you know until I finish, you know three hopes Yeah, that's about it.  You know Blake Hong was three which by the way, you're super awesome. Awesome. Oh, just a just a little just a little pitch in Harry McIntyre then to the podcast Happy podcast episode three Harry McIntyre the voice of Noah from Xenoblade Coming up and I'm excited for your podcast man So I've been playing that as you know, Blake Hong was three just getting ready for the you know for the podcast Just like a kind of get through it really quick so that I can talk about it But I've also been playing fall guys. I rage quit on Nate's live. Okay. I read you did Wait, I play like three games and then like the very first game I was like the very first one out and then Just watching all the way through and I don't think I ever got past Stage one on any of them That's rough none none like stage one on any of them. I'm like what the heck I'm better than this Well, apparently you're not My alter ego is simply the best kept getting past stage one But when simply the best wasn't playing and it was just me I kept failing so That means I have the skills. I just have to get into my cocky alter ego Yeah, apparently that's the only way I can be good at this at this game is to just be cocky So I think that's the only way you're good at anything. Oh, it's if you just you know You know what you? All right Sega Master System is to Okay, yeah, yeah, the second one coming out. Yep. Yeah, I want to get it Just so I can emulate it so I can just kind of raise stuff and add more stuff because I heard that The the hardware on that on that console is good for emulation. So Looking forward to nice nice So I've been playing some games Let's see here. We'll start with the ones that nobody cares about and I play it every week mad in 23. I Won two league games so far this or 22. Well, it will be 23 in three weeks But yeah, anyways one two of my league games. So that was cool And then I Let me see you know, but Chronicles 3. I'm about 11 to 12 hours into it I know many of you are much deeper in gotta remember kids jobs other things going on but I am Loving you know, but Chronicles 3 to the point that I probably am going to beat at least the main story and For me to say that about a JRPG is a huge deal Not because I don't love JRPGs But because I haven't spent enough time to beat a JRPG besides Autopad Traveler since I guess Xenoblade 1 I beat that one's in a way too I didn't get that far into haven't fully completed a Final Fantasy or pretty much any other JRPG in forever Pretty much since I had children. Wow since I had children. I have an 11 year old daughter who turns 12 this year So pretty much since I had children I lost the time it takes because JRPGs take hundreds of hours and you know Here's a funny thing. I say I don't have it and then I look at my breath of the wild play time I Clearly can make the time if I really really want to but yeah I'm kind of a JRPG junkie. So it's just hard for me to believe like, you know finish them. I'm like How how can you not the stories are so good gotta get through they are that's why you know Just take your time people play it like they're in a rush. Why are you rushing yourself playing a RPG? I know I do I play I rushed through it one time just because I want another story I'm like more interested in the story, right the second time more isn't in skill, right then third time Interested more and a hundred percent in the game That's what I did with breath of the wild at first time. I'm like just rushing through it. Actually. I remember I went straight for the castle Yeah Let's go but the fact that you could do it man. I love that, you know So yeah, the first time I went straight for the castle. That was hilarious. I didn't get past the those guardians Man Wait, I'm here myself I hear myself three times now four times. I Don't think it's me this time Again Discords calling you out here. Yeah, I can't handle many calls because when anyone else is talking it's fine It's only when you talk. Well, no, I also when I hear the reverb it come it makes makes Popped up green Mike. It's all it's always Mike. No, it was me at the start, but it's now. It's Mike Let me let me check. Oh Yeah, we go It's gone.  I brought now You're good. You're good No, I can still hear it you can but we can't So basically it's your roadcaster given you the problems, but you gotta you gotta figure it out gonna figure it out Trust me. I know I used to annoying me too It took me like a week to figure out how to stop letting it echo like that He got a new toy everyone. He has now the same thing. I use right here to run the whole show He's got the exact same one. So he's playing around with it Oh Hey, it's simple simple USB mics, let me tell you we have like the super expensive set up and all this crazy equipment Let me tell you it makes me miss the days of just plug a USB mic in and just forget about it My snow ball somewhere on that's what we started out at. Yeah. Yeah.  Yep That was how the show started Yeah, we should have we should have did it properly we should have went right up to it So our faces were right here. Yeah, and then get the best audio quality, but look like we're making out But yeah, zero big car goes three is just incredible and and I I'm gonna finish it JRPGs, you know, it's a Mandy's point take your time My problem is I have other games see I'm not a junkie my JRP junkie now I use I've used to play a lot of JRPGs, but I play a lot of other things as well Here's the problem. I'm a content creator now So like spittoon 3 is coming out and I'll be live streaming spittoon 3 like crazy because people like playing spittoon 3 with me You know, we got Pokemon coming out later this year and hey at a Nintendo channel Pokemon happens if you kind of a bigger deal than Xenoblade unfortunately And 10 games at a 3 as well So like there's always games coming at this point, which is awesome But it also means that while I'm trying to stay current on the news and current on the games and the opinions I'm never if it's not a Zelda game because Zelda is my jam. If it ain't Zelda I Can't guarantee that I will dedicate enough time to beat it, but I will tell you this I've already made an internal pledge that Xenoblade Chronicles 3 will be beat by the end of this month, so August is the month I got the time. There's nothing else happening that I'm gonna be playing this month, but this and then so This is now plus Julia bought me live alive Nice, so now I feel like I'm obligated to beat that too. So I gotta somehow be I gotta be I gotta be both of them this month So it's love to live live alive live a life.   I don't know but I'm gonna play it Maybe the voice action in it will correct it for me I've been saying it's really good. I don't have it personally not yet at least I've heard good things Yeah, I didn't play the original because I only released in Japan so according to Google it sounds like live alive But it makes no the way though I It's fine. Yeah, let's Google Google. All right, so so that is what I've been playing there I also for those that weren't here last night. I played fall guys for the very very first time I Did it on live stream.  It was sweet and I Wasn't doing very good, but I will say I was having fun and that That's what matters most to me. See Mike rage quit I didn't I didn't know rage quit over here. I was having too much fun It was fun Yeah, cuz I had I played Mario Party with my friends and I lose all the time, but I always have fun But I keep losing still so I don't understand Next time we do we got to do a playback play because it'll be fun with the playback play Having two people to like two casters and just watching the game and do a play by play Because a lot of crazy stuff happening. I was like kind of switching cameras, and it was just hilarious what everybody was doing at the same time Yeah, I remember when I had the camera on the person on the final one He was at the very very top and everyone was way below him and I'm sitting there like why you know who's gonna win this match Literally two jumps later. He falls straight down and I'll pass to everyone and I'm like That's what you get for me calling you the winner before Don't ever have me on your side because it's a guarantee that Anyways, so yeah, that was that was a big thing that we did yesterday So yeah, it's obviously gonna be a lot of zealomade Chronicles 3 Hopefully one of these weeks. I'll be able to report Hey, I beat the game and then I can give you some thoughts try to give you some non-spoilery thoughts on it The only thoughts I have on it right now is it's very very good Mm-hmm, but I mean I don't even know that I've left a tutorial I forgot a game. I'm playing Mario not Mario monster hunter rise expansion. Ah Sunbreak Yes, nice. How is it? It is very it's fun. It's like it's very summer version Yeah, it's the extended version of the original rise. So it's some reiki Yeah, some of the monsters have a Change there's new monsters to old monsters All right, you know, I like it Well, that's all I matters is that you're liking it. I played monster to rise. I didn't it's just I don't know I've never been able to get into monster hunter, but I tried it. I got it once you get into it It's good. Yeah, but it sounds okay. So here. Here's why I don't I think it's just a Mental block. That's not letting me get into it See I used to be an MMO addict straight up Oh So any time I'm playing an RPG that has online multiplayer that is seemingly an endless experience I'm afraid to let myself Because I don't know what will happen to my life my YouTube channel my family next thing you know I'm out on the street by myself Yeah My phone No way to track anybody on any of your positions Mike Mike you realize you realize that doesn't sound good, right? Way to track anybody people don't usually don't want to be tracked Normally you don't want to be tracked as any of your possessions. Anyways, I still can I still have an iPad I'm not completely out of Apple. I Still have Apple airtags. I gotta be able to track Anyways By the way, there are tracking things Mike You just have to you just there's ways to track things like the like if I don't know where my backpack is You know, there's things you can buy and you can track them with any phone Oh, yeah, for sure. There's a little tiles those little tiles. They're called tiles. Actually, that's a brand right tile No, that's one of them. Yeah, it's there's a whole bunch of them now The tiles the only thing I will say about the boat, but see I don't like the tile ones, but there are ones That are literally credit card size. You can slide in your wallet. Yeah, those ones are nice I wish Apple wasn't just round circles, but Sometimes they're a little bit thick but yeah What you got a problem with circles Well, the fact that I can't put it in my new wallet is a problem. Yes You can put circles in your wallet. Why not? It's too thick Okay, okay, you know, I'm used to use the Ridge wallet, right the circle the circle. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it doesn't work. So yes, my wallet tracker still tracking my Zelda wallet that's sitting right here Yeah, no anyways, no, I have nothing against Apple products Yeah, for those of you know, I was a big switch this week with switch over to Android so I could have more YouTube functionality on the go And it's really because all the YouTube apps are entirely different and by the way You know everyone that's been telling me about the gray names in the chat. I get it. It's Android. Yeah It's Android Android your names are gray instead of green if you remember why I don't know That's a decision YouTube it did they obviously could edit the code and change that but oh, I got a confession. Yeah Hold on I'm gonna mute my mic for this confession. I don't want to laugh YouTube I can leave me YouTube for it. Okay. I really blame YouTube because the first time in my life I'm doing this. I'm not getting rid of my iPhone. Okay But I did add a second line to my to my plan. Did you you activated your Android? I got a the Pixel 6 Pro. Okay. Yeah, it's not a bad one. And I'm like, yeah, that's kind of that's pure Android, right? But like they call it vanilla. Yeah, so so I'm like, you know, if I'm gonna get if I'm gonna have an Android phone Then I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go vanilla. I'm not gonna have anything on top of it.  Yeah, I got the Google. I got the pixel phone I only got it for YouTube so that I can use the the thing Yeah, you know, like the one feature we get but there's a few other things too that work a little better on it I've been using it for you bought a phone just for one feature Yeah, for that for that feature that that I'm pretty sure is coming to Android I was gonna get a second line anyway, but like an additional line to have it for business But I just decided to do it now. Yeah, like I technically I want two lines Like I want I I want an iPhone and Android and I want two different lines I do want I do want a business line separate from my Because I would like to be able to hand like every time doing these meetings with people we're always like, oh, yeah Can you can you give me your phone number? I'm like, I'd rather not Yeah, can we just meet on discord or something like oh It sounds so unprofessional because I'm unwilling to hand them a phone number. I'm like, sorry I know I am a business and I don't have a business number. I'm sorry You like and I know you can download apps. I know guys you can download apps But yeah, I've talked about this before separation of church and state separation of work and personal don't want to necessarily all on one phone I realize I pretty much do it all on one phone and that's how I know. I don't want it all on one phone Hate it. I wish this would just be my work phone and I'd still have my iPhone for personal Yep That's the point having like a like a separate device that you can just leave somewhere else when you're not working It's not gonna bother you But even when they send you products that they're they see your products from you know International they ask for your phone number because they have to have ship. Yep. Yeah Yeah, I had a box into me and I felt so uncomfortable giving my phone number, you know So I'm like, you know what I gotta I'm gonna get this extra line. No. Oh, yeah Yeah, I know Jimmy. Yeah, so someday someday when I can put it in the budget, I'll do that It'll be it'll be worth it long call And I think right now if we add another line I get another line for free So maybe one of those that once my daughter gets added to the plan then maybe I'll just do it then um Anyways, I have no idea that wasn't me Let's get into today's topics We only have two topics today, but that's because they're both pretty big one of them I have a feeling it's gonna be really really interesting here because I know that Justin and Mandy are on the complete opposite sides of The rest of us might just enjoy the entertainment, we'll see Um Come on. Hey makers on the top row from the top row All right, so Obviously, unless you've been living under a rock as Nintendo people Nintendo fans listeners podcast listeners, you guys know that there was a Pokemon presents on 832 22 in the morning We're not really going to go over most of the presents because I'm just going to be honest when it comes to at least my interest levels I'm not really That caring of all the rest like yeah pokemon goes cool unite That's all fine. Look the updates to all that stuff is great world championships world championships There's a lot of people A lot of people yeah, there's a lot of people that play those games So I'm not being dismissive But for the purposes of what we're interested in talking about here We're going to focus on the new generation of pokemon because that's what they ended with and that's what a lot of people were watching for And frankly, it's what I'm Actually excited for and it feels weird to say that about pokemon Maybe maybe this is just the aftermath of archies. I don't know His archies was fun. And even though they're pretty much have put none of the features of archies into this game Somehow I'm still excited It could just be because it's open world and I've been wanting open world pokemon since the 90s, but Archies was open world. No, it's open zone Yeah, yeah Loading between worlds between zones and whenever you go down it kind of loaded. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah If you take techno cat. Yeah, technical If you want to get technical, it's I guess Yeah, it's called it's called open zone. It's it's like monster hunter. There's a hub. You go to the hub to go to the zones In an open world, you could just go anywhere anytime you want but basically no loading Um breath of the wild good example of a game that that truly was open world Once it once it opened up, obviously the tutorial area closed you off for a moment. Uh, so This is obviously the first open world pokemon game pokemon scrawling vials What we're talking about there's brand new stuff that dropped today new trailer new information now Some people could say not new information depends on how much you pay attention to pokemon leaks because Essentially the stuff we found out today confirmed in many ways that all the leaks we have been getting are legit so basically the whole game's already leaked and we're three months out from launch it's it's it's Insane that that has happened, but we're not going to focus on the leaks We're going to focus on the stuff that we know about but I'm just pointing out guys That if you really want to know everything about this game, it's already out there So you can go do that We're going to focus on This stuff that was today. So there was a new trailer, which I thought was a very strange trailer personally Um, yeah, the editing was weird Yeah, well they popped up initially and they said hey, this is like The text and the voice acting in here are not representative of the game And then they did this weird thing and they showed a two and a half minute trailer Where they're showing off the new abilities like you're riding the legendaries And you're seeing some shiny pokemon doing the emerald thing the tarot whatever thing and all of a sudden There's all this voice acting talking with Interlaced text on the screen, which clearly they told you the beginning is not part of the game And I kept wondering What are you doing? Oh, man, I thought that you thought it was in the game Yes They warned you they warned you at the very but here's the thing that's the thing It's weird It's if you didn't read the warning at the beginning you would think it's in the game like they warned it I've read the warning, but I thought I didn't know for Yeah, I didn't know for which is which or something. Yeah, I just thought maybe the graphics would have been like Tuned up a bit. I don't know Well, there goes that Yeah Yeah, there goes your one of your negative thoughts.  Why did we even have that two and a half minutes? I'm so That it felt so point. It wasn't even a good trailer. So whoever had that idea I'm not saying you should be fired.  Can we just not that would be That'd be great.  Don't fake it. Give us real voice acting. Um, anyways That being said, uh, what we learned today was just a whole bunch of new information on on the game that if you don't have them And following the leaks you didn't know such as you can ride Uh, your legendaries, you know motorcycle mode essentially, uh, You know glider mode. Yeah glider mode slash jet mode. I don't know they call it glider mode But I mean one of them literally looks like you turn to a jet. It's crazy And then you could obviously swim as well So climb mountain climb you climb out in size Which some of the stuff we saw in legends arceus and some of the stuff, you know, in general we've seen in prior Pokemon games. Yeah, literal altering vehicle So it's pretty cool. Uh, there's not really a ton of variation between the two legends how it does it One will spin the wheels one will use its legs Even though it looks like it has two wheels to spin it doesn't so I Whatever, I guess they just wanted to differentiate it.  Terraria to Is it a pokemon? No, it's their abilities a new ability. Oh the crystal stuff. Yes That is one thing I forgot to put in the notes That is one of my concerns because it's like What what does it do different? I mean, how does it tie in it? It just feels like it doesn't belong It belongs more in like brilliant diamond and shining pearl maybe but like Okay, so like So before I dive deeper deeper in this because there's some other talking points in here I just want to get one of your guys's initial thoughts on the news that dropped today And I guess I'll start with Mandy because she was already going off on. Oh man. This doesn't feel right So Mandy, what were your initial thoughts on the stuff we saw today? She liked the the well the voice acting was kind of I fell for that one But that's on you And I really did I like the whole open world thing. It looks okay for a pokemon game Uh, the crystallization whatever it's called. I don't like that. I don't What is it tear? Yeah, I don't see how rastl Terrorist all okay. I was like, uh, the turgid. I think I think I call it terrestrial at one point one in my video today Yeah, they used like seven different spellings of it on uh on their official website. It's weird. Anyways, go on Yeah, so I didn't like it. That was like if you're gonna go for a gimmick. I thought they were gonna go for something more I don't know ambitious or something. Um, I did like You know the whole setting kind of a spain Thing that was cool and yeah I have hopes for this one. I didn't I really didn't like sword and shield. So Hopefully this one kind of remedies that but there is one thing like the The gyms, I don't understand like how the gyms are set up Some people are saying that it's like They're level locked or something. I'm like, how does that make sense? No, they're they don't um, there's no scaling. It's confirmed on the official website. There's no scaling So what it means is you can do the gyms in any order But let's say you're doing the harder gyms first and you you got your pokemon level up for it Well, the lower level gyms will still stay lower level. So when you get to them Okay, so you just suggested order Yeah, so there's like a but here's the problem though And this is something I wanted to get to later was there's three stories In this game, which is unlike pokemon.  You're already going to be out leveling all the gyms By the time you get to the gym storyline. So I I don't Not having scaling is to me maybe the biggest negative news to come today was like How can you offer these three story lines? We can do it whenever we want Which is cool that you're giving us that openness But then you're removing challenge from the other story lines by doing certain ones Like if you do the gym one first are the other story lines also not going to have scaling So then they're easier as well. Like I I'm just It's such a confusing decision To not put some sort of pokemon scaling in the game depending on how far advanced your main party is Yeah, that's weird, but it's very weird Yeah That's game freak So justin and you're you're mega fan over there. What are your thoughts? Yes, um, I thought it looked great. Uh, the crawdan running even though he has giant tires was ridiculous looking But like in a great way The the terrestrialized forms that adds a new type to them So now pokemon can have multiple types, but it doesn't seem like it gives them a weakness to the type It just gives them another one. It gives them another one. Okay. I thought it changed it. I thought it just covered up There are already it works for everyone. No, there's eight there's 18 different ones And all pokemon can have any of them, but they can only have one So it gives you a reason technically to catch 18 different pokemon of the same one if you want every single terra type Or for each pokemon and competitively that sounds like something that could be like really interesting um I did see Centro post it about how they confirmed on the website that there was no Gym scaling, but I don't think that the what it says on there actually confirms that it kind of alludes to it Yeah, I yeah, okay. Yeah, they don't they don't use the exact terminology. They just use a lot of It kind of indicators Harder one first But that doesn't mean that the easier ones don't get harder But the first gym could just always be the easiest even if it does scale up It could just always be the easiest of them So like the eighth gym might be like level 40s and 50s and then scale higher with you You know, what's weird gym will start low and then still scale up. You know, what's weird that we don't know It is weird that we don't know but Their communication with this game has been Has been a little weird like my thought process is The leaks claim there were no scaling Now those are leaks. We don't know We don't know it. You know, they try to avoid. Yeah. So that's one reason why that's one thing I brought because the leaks said it Game freak's not really saying that they're sort of alluding that maybe there's no scaling, but maybe there is I I find it to be I mean this to me is a pressing issue for the game because It sort of sounds like you're only going to really enjoy one of the storylines fully And the rest you're not going to get like that new player experience with it because you're I mean the other thing too though is that maybe Like, you know, the quote-unquote first gym only has like has no pull. They're just straight pokemon They don't have the the terrace the terrace or Stairs all forms and then you get to the quote-unquote last gym and all of the pokemon have it And maybe that's kind of how it makes it quote-unquote harder because you may know that what pokemon are coming But you don't know what forms they're gonna have You know I don't know. Maybe it's something something along the lines of that And maybe they do a scale and it's just makes things quote-unquote harder because They all have the the new forms Yeah, I'm I've no idea the crystal. Yeah, okay Yeah, I I have no clue as the as you kind of progress it kind of just goes more and more You kind of or you know when you get in the middle Maybe two or three of them have it and then the other three don't and then as you keep going It adds more that have that extra form You know, so that's how it maybe makes it quote-unquote harder I have no idea When it comes to dealing damage though without scaling, how do they do it?  Like you you know that that that would be that would that would that would be full scaling. Yeah We're not really sure Yeah, the pokemon company definitely has to communicate more, but we are three months out They overshared a lot with sort of not sort of with sun and moon and since then they've kind of Scaled back on how much they share prior to release like short and shield didn't have Anywhere near the run up that sun and moon did sun and moon. You basically knew the whole game before it came out A sword and shield left a lot to be found And I think they're sticking with that plan again where there you know, there's going to be a lot to figure out when you get the game Because like the sun and moon lead up it didn't get good reception online and near the games So that might be an issue itself, but Yeah, so it makes it feel like they they Weren't planning on giving us information like really deep information when it comes to this game And they really wanted to announce what they announced at the beginning The the events You know and the updates for the pokemon The apps and all the all the stuff and then they just to keep everybody happy. Okay. Yeah, we'll throw in some details of pokemon Uh scarlet and violet, you know what I mean that to me. That's how it felt when I was watching it um Everything at the beginning was getting bigger and bigger and bigger and then I felt I felt I felt I felt like it went like Like that, you know, I mean like everything we got in in this The last I would say five to six minutes could have been just giving us to us in the trailer Or they could have made it something closer to the event Um dedicate a pokemon presents just to pokemon scarlet and violet because it is that big of a game This isn't basically the game of the year when it comes to like the closing the year You know, uh, it was that was breath of the wild but breath of the wild was delayed So we got pokemon scarlet and violet to fill in that void Big shoes to fill But, you know, that's that's how I felt. I feel like maybe they just weren't planning on giving us um Information on pokemon violet and scarlet. They just wanted to introduce the things that they introduced in the beginning With the event and the updates for the apps Um, and they just you know, this that's what they did. Okay pokemon presents. Here you go 20 minutes You know and and I I think that we're we're still getting another one Dedicated to to to pokemon violet and scarlet because I wanted to see some gameplay I wanted to see some action some open world action there I wanted to see somebody climbing somebody going to town somebody getting out of town You know that the fluidity of an open world. I wanted to see some Some real, you know, like a live gameplay battle somebody playing it explaining it, you know, like a real Uh presentation and I I don't feel like I got that from this I think this has been a problem with the marketing for this game the whole time It's sound everything sounds exciting and they're telling us about all these little things and barely showing them off as an example Today's actually the day that gyms were even confirmed And think about how they announced and think about how they announced it Hey, I do you know what the purpose of gyms are in this game?  Oh, and there's three total stories.  Oh, just tell us all this stuff and give us no information on it And I know there's three months I know there's three months, but they did this when they said oh full the open world And then they told us a few things but they didn't show us a few things. Oh, there's full multiplayer What's the limitations of it? What can you do? Can you complete one of these stories? There's no information on it like There's so many questions left, which is good because it does make you want more trailers and more information And yes, they could have a lot to share and and to Justin's point they they overshare with sunday moon and that I mean that that happens and you can be a little scared. I guess of that But sunday moon also ended up being extremely well received Despite the oversharing So the over sharing didn't hurt the end product reception So I mean sort of she'll they kind of Did the whole dexit thing? Yeah, I know. Yeah, no one really cared what they had to say After dexit wasn't out just at least online. You couldn't find anyone care every time a trailer dropped every comment was about dexit No one was even paying attention to the trailers Um, I should say no one obviously there were some people in it because it ended up being the second most popular or some second most sold pokemon game Behind gen one so clearly a lot of people ended up enjoying their time with sword and shield or at least enjoying enough to pick it up I enjoyed it enough to finish it I just care about lechonk. I don't care about anything else as long as I guess all the chunks of my party all the way Dude lechonk for life. He's in my party I'm not even sure if I wanted to evolve just leave him as lechonk. Oh, yeah, this is just called the game pokemon lechonk This should be a third the you know, we had pokemon yellow addition back in the day We should get lechonk addition lechonk addition. They're gonna just change the whole name from pokemon to poke a chonk Poke a chonk Okay So just what what else did you have to think about the stuff today? I know kind of got cut off there by the side bars I really like the the uh fido the the dog the dog that was adorable I I think the pun names that they've been doing in this generation Are really good to the memes lechonk is one of them. Yeah, the memes are great Uh I know I have no issue with them not sharing a whole lot for pokemon because it's gonna sell regardless So I don't need them to give me everything. Um, That's a me thing, but I don't need to see anymore. I was gonna buy the game anyway That's true. I am I'm fine with them under sharing as opposed to over sharing So there is it would it would be nice to see how it performs and stuff though. Yeah Yeah beforehand because not everybody is like us who are like game like buy every game And you know some people need convincing and When you don't share most of your stuff, I think so but pokemon I don't think pokemon really needs like we know it's not gonna. Well, well, let's think about this Let's think about this. Let's think about this though. Mediocrely. Yes, it's gonna sell well. Okay. Yes, it's gonna sell well How long is it taken for them to get back over 20 million in sales? How many years between 20 million sellers did it take for them? Actually, I don't know. It's been I think it's been a while. It was almost it was it was almost two decades Between selling over 20 million in a generation So I feel like just because a game sells well doesn't mean it is good. Yes. I agree that My the point I was trying to make in and pointing out how large the gap was between 20 million sellers in the franchise is that Just because it's going to sell well, it just means you keep selling to the same people If you're not showing exponential growth in your sales Game over game over game that means you're not actually hitting a new audience and at some point you're going to try to Outgrow your audience at some point your audience outgrows you or they die Someday get too old don't want to play anymore And you don't have anyone else coming in underneath like I could tell you right now I have been around a lot of elementary kids and they care a hell of a lot more about roblox Minecraft than they do pokemon Because they're not being they're not the nephews do not care about pokemon at all and and teenagers the young kids Yeah, I think that's a pokemon problem. They've had for a long time But that but that problem is appealing to new players The god to appeal to new players. You can't just keep relying on the like the base is huge That's why yeah, it's gonna guys this game's gonna sell over 10 million. It's probably gonna sell over 15 mil Maybe maybe it'll even sell as well as sword of shield hit 20 25. You can get up there It might But also does that mean that the base has grown or does that mean that it's just selling to the same crowd about sword and shield and also there's a lot of people by the way that I will say trying to get old audience back into it like a lot of a lot of fans that have left pokemon over the years That maybe got interested and i'm i'm one of them got interested in archaeus like oh Archeus is cool. It's sort of open world. These new mechanics kind of interested What what's this going to be like in a real mainline game? And now we have an open world mainline game coming I think there's just a lot of neat ideas being thrown out here and I think there's a lot of From old fans that feel burned that that that just haven't really enjoyed pokemon for a while They might go Hey, you have a lot of great ideas here You're not telling us anything about those ideas which makes us feel like the ideas are half baked And there's too many new ideas to try to throw into a three-year period for it to actually play out and work well So then there's a lack of trust now for the hardcore faithful. I mean He said you're gonna buy the game anyways, so they could have they could have showed you nothing and just said a new pokemon games coming You probably were gonna buy it Every year I plan on buying it. Yeah, so yeah, see they don't have they don't have to earn your loyalty They already have it But to earn other people's loyalty that aren't people that buy pokemon every year like i'm not someone who buys it every year So I need more information like I am highly interested But I need to know a hell of a lot more before I decide, you know what I'm gonna go plop down You know 60 bucks or I'm gonna go buy the the double pack for 120 like I need to know I can't just be told A blanket term that this is what this is gonna be Without understanding what it's it kind of like that runs through that first two minute and 30 second trailer Where they're showing you these things, but they're not really explaining any of it And then they didn't really explain any of it The only thing I understand at this point is at some point you get your legendary And you can travel the world with it and at some point you could invite friends And at some point we could do raid battles right away the beginning. Yeah, like here and you're just giving it Yeah me and I don't even know how that works like yeah, it's cool to not know everything right part of you You don't want to always know everything about the games, but when they're they're introducing so many new ideas here so many different things That I don't know what i'm supposed to expect from any of it Like when you confirm gyms in the way that you did by just casually bringing up a gym leader okay, and What kind is this is this like traditional gyms, and if i'm someone who's never played pokemon.  It's it's very much Maybe the way they were catering this was maybe to Current big fans of the franchise like hey our big fans know it. They're going to be super excited by this stuff to everyone else You'll find out later. I think that's what they rely on a lot for their marketing though is like a cater to the the hardcore audience for it and then they expect them to Hype up the game online and everything else and for it to spread word of mouth that way They've never really done a whole lot of like In-depth marketing except with the exception of sun and moon. They didn't really they didn't do a whole lot before that and they Haven't done a whole lot since Sun and moon is the exception to that. They just they are not good at marketing And that is a problem that they have But I think as someone who does buy a lot of pokemon I've just grown accustomed to that problem where I know they're not going to do a lot kind of like when With zelda how it gets delayed like the hardcore fans know It's going to get it's always gonna get delayed and we don't complain about it because we know it but the No, I still complain. I still complain I'm not even talking about it. I still complain different because like zelda has quality to their games We'll still complain about the delays no matter what where I didn't come people who watch who like our hardcore into zelda Or just nintendo in general or like yeah, it's zelda. It's it was going to get delayed It's always going to get delayed knows all the game comes out without three or four delays So it's less concerning And it's the same thing with pokemon. We we know they're not going to show a lot We know what the games we know what to expect. They're going to be mediocre games, but The gameplay loop is fun enough that for most people that's fine. It doesn't need to run great It runs well enough. It doesn't need to look fantastic. It looks good enough And To mandy's point.  Oh, it's good enough. Oh, it's this It's fine. It's good enough here. It's it's mediocre here mediocre. Like why are you accepting mediocrity? Because that's what they're going to put out as long as it's selling and But if you stop accepting it one sale if you stop accepting my one sale isn't going to do that So it was but but but the see that's whatever the this is what happens So this is how things don't change Everyone just accepts it people got to stop accepting it. It's just saying my one but if everybody everybody says that Everybody says everyone says my one. It's got to start somewhere And if you're if everybody does say it's kind of like That's a great idea, but in reality We know the game's going to sell millions and like am I going to miss the game personally like i'm not going to Miss the game. I don't I don't care that much it it's a video game. It's not my life as long as it's fun enough to play I'm usually happy with it But i'm a very easy person to Sure when it comes to games sure it doesn't mean the the masses are but most people do just buy them and that's probably the big difference between the Zelda fan base and the um Pokemon fan base is if a mediocre Zelda game comes out, we just don't buy it That's not true. People bought wind waker Sure Sure, it's okay. Let's fine.  You want to trash wind waker be my guest? But but here's the thing If you look at the sales of zelda games all the zelda games that are rated the lowest also have poor sales Because they don't just lap up every zelda game now I buy every zelda game because i'm that Super hardcore with that hardcore audience of zelda is only like four million people If you want to hit on that bigger audience where zelda gets to eight million or 25 million like breath of the wild You can't release a mediocre zelda game mediocre zelda games don't sell well skyward sword They've now they've now tried selling skyward sword twice and they can't get it to cross four million in sales They've tried twice now So one of the games that don't sell though are also on the worst selling Nintendo consoles like we and switch We sold really well. We in switch We sold really well, but it's software did not sell super well A lot of people bought we's and then didn't buy anything else. They bought the we and got we sports Maybe we play and that was it. Oh my god. Do you even know the top? Do you even know the top 20 software sales on there? Holy crap? You said did not sell well software did not sell well Over over the all software did not sell that great on the way. Oh my Twilight princess in Twilight princess was the best selling zelda game of all time at the time because of we It was the best selling zelda ever. It was when we launched though So a breath of the wild was when switch launch. What's your point? Does it sales not count? No, it counts, but it didn't sell in the we you just like it didn't sell in the game Just like the we you didn't sell the we you didn't sell you can't talk about you the we you didn't sell Let me go ahead and jump in here. Uh, wait, let me go. I love the I love this Shots are getting fired. I love but but let me jump in here with some facts though Okay, so let's go talk. Let's talk about the we the hardware is sold 101 million software 921 million 9 921 million basically 921 million. All right, the switch has only sold To date 863 million. So so far software sales Um, there were not all pokemon games. There were not all zelda games There were there there are a large Variety of games that were sold on the switch and on the we we have 9 to 1 and and so far the switch Okay, with the it's 101 Million units sold which by the way, we only sold 111 101 million they updated today. It's 111. Yeah 111. Okay. So 111 111 million to 101 from the we from the we It still has not outsold the we in software So when it comes to games the we was Because More popular of course when it comes to games than the switches. I mean the switch is the current thing. That's what we're talking about. That's a Yeah Switches on pace to be nintendo's first billion software selling thing But it's also going to be selling 140 150 million units to get there. So Compared to yeah, the we the we itself that we sold pretty well I mean hardware and software as well Like just looking in the top 10 selling games on we Let's say you want to set aside the family games for some reason because apparently we swatches watchers or we play we fit Don't count fine. No, I'm not setting them aside I'm just saying they're not like a lot of people vote that kind of stuff over like metroid primes and metroid Popular dude metroid. It's never been popular Ever on any system. It's never been a big seller It's metroid prime three sold less than one and two if I'm not mistaken Yes, you you are you are correct and two sold less than one and three sold less than two It's a pattern with metroid metroid metroid struggles to sell 2 million So you're referencing an ip that already doesn't sell very well. How about mario kart? Almost 40 million sold on we I don't know that sounds pretty good. That's the second best selling game on we Let's see. How about a new super mario brothers? 30 million on we that's number that's at number four super smash bros brawl Was the best selling fighting game of all time until ultimate came out. That's at number eight number nine mario galaxy 13 million That was the best selling 3d mario game of all time until odyssey came out So I'm really confused like even twilight princess sold seven and a half million That's the third number 13 on the list mario galaxy 2 is at foot number 14 donkey gone country returns Ended up selling like seven million on the system like I'm really confused when we at like nobody bought anything On a system that has a nine to one attach rate doesn't make sense to me Like the number the numbers don't don't agree Now you could argue. Yes, you see something like we sports 82 million Well, we all know it was the pack in if they would have packed in one two switch with with they would have the same numbers they would have packed in one two switch but Switchers doesn't have a packing game. So even if we want to set aside we sports. Well, we sports resort wasn't a packing game And that's a number three at 33 million and now we just got nintendo switch sports So we can't argue that's not an ongoing ip. They just released that and it sold like five five and a half I'm trying to remember with the launch numbers where he was four and a half No Something like that. Yeah, it was like five and a half and I think it's curbie. That's a four and a half right now Anyways, sorry Sorry, just that you kind of triggered me a little bit when you're like nothing sold on we I'm like, what are you talking about? Is nintendo's best-selling platform of all time software wise? I'm confused A lot of the later stuff just doesn't seem at least doesn't seem to have sold as well Maybe that i'm wrong on the numbers. I probably am. Well, that's by the way, that's true Things that release late in the platform's life always doesn't sell I mean the skyward sword was like what the year before like the year of the way year or the year be sure So then why the skyward sword hd not sell? Oh, because that game was 60 dollars and not worth 60 dollars and I bought it that's 60 dollars Okay, so then you then you're just making my point that it wasn't that as good as others all the games So tell the fans then pick it up. So why are polka my fans pick? I don't think it's not as good though It's just not Worth 60 dollars like it was already only 50 dollars on the way It's a re it's a re-release. It's just an hd the control scheme isn't that much better like it's an upcharge for something that It in need it should have been like a 40 dollar game And they wanted to charge pokemon is selling like double copies of a 60 dollar game An exception now pokemon is definitely an exception that a rule when it comes to most things it gets away with a lot The fun Like if it was like This is not the way I thought this podcast was going to be called that All that stuff won't fly for any For any reviewer or something They'll just give it like a freaking zero, but it's pokemon and it just baffles me that like it's such a big ip but they don't The games are not Like big ip's i've seen indy games put more effort into their like actual game than a billion dollar ip franchise Like jeez sometimes i'm just like Oh man I think the game stray for the playstation that one's like indy It has more detail than anything in pokemon And i'm just like pokemon Like what are you what are you doing with this money? No, that's what that does that does bother. Yeah, that does bother a lot of people That's the biggest ip in the world, but they don't yes Put more into it. These are common complaints for most pokemon fans have these same complaints It should we know that it's not Treated the way it should be like it with all the money it makes it should be better than it is But at the same time Who's gonna skip the pokemon who's gonna be the one to skip the pokemon game? of the year To prove the point and then even if you do It's pokemon company really gonna change like they're kind of changing now even those sort of shields the best selling since gen one They still radically legends ark is so massively different. This is going to be massively different It's because we are moving in. I think they want so this is just based on some interviews. I was watching um Around arceus timing and you know we'll get our interviews for this game as well after it comes out So it sounded a lot like game freaking even the pokemon company Um saw saw what happened with with breath of the wild already super successful franchise in zelda You know not relative to pokemon sells about half of what pokemon does normally But still relatively long time long term successful franchise Totally did everything flip the table did something completely drastically different They haven't really done since the very first game and all of a sudden boom It's hitting sales numbers that are just unheard of for zelda I don't know if that'll ever have another 25 million selling game. It's insane and pokemon company goes, you know Why don't we try something different and see if we can replicate that now I'm not saying they're going to replicate that But it sounded like there was some inspiration in some of these interviews because they mentioned breath of the wild in the interviews themselves Like multiple times is like yeah, we we've got some inspiration from breath of the wild and it's like oh Okay, well archies obviously as a solo game is going to have a hard time outselling, you know dual pack games That's why it's not in the top 10. Well brilliant diamond and let's go are but uh It's really interesting Because it's very obvious to me that even though sword and shield sold so well They think pokemon can be bigger than it is and so They want to do something new and fresh and I think that that's admirable and I like what I like a lot of the things that they're actually showing for this game I've liked almost every single feature. They have mentioned for this game I've been stupidly excited about because I'm like yes. Oh multiple friends and it's not just raid battles We could traverse the world together going to towns together. Yes. Yes. Yes. I love that It's fully open world. We enter towns for any angle. Oh, I don't the only thing I didn't like is that you know They didn't bring in some of the archies catch mechanics. I wish some of it would have been brought in mixed with the traditional But whatever Um, maybe that'll happen down the line at some point after all these games are being developed at like the same time. So You know It's probably the way from the next one before you see emerging of ideas, but it's interesting Looking at it and going That's all cool.  You're basically going to get 3ds visuals and hd and that's just what it's going to be I know that feels like an insult to some people I'm not trying to insult it. That's just it doesn't feel like these mobile handheld developers have really gone into What that art direct it's not even the art direction it it's it's even things like I'm watching a battle and I'm looking at the ground and the ground texture it It's something from the n64 Like I it doesn't make any sense to still see that on switch, but But I'm not going to bash the visuals too much. I went hard into my sword and shield I'm going to leave it alone at this point pokemon is what it is and I can leave it alone because you know what The visuals were probably even worse in legends archies and I ended up liking me. I ended up liking the game. I liked it too So the visuals clearly are not going to stop me from playing pokemon even though I wish they were better What I don't like though And this has been something I didn't complain about on 3ds But it has irked me a little bit on some of the games and not all the games that like brilliant diamond chatting pro didn't have this problem But I also just didn't like those games it is Some of the frame rate drops that we're seeing in these trailers and I know we're three months out guys I know Some of the frame rate drops look pretty extreme I don't know how extreme yet because I don't have it.  Anyways, I'll wait till digital foundry does their thing but It feels weird to me to see such frame rate drops with a game that doesn't look as visually impressive as games that run at lock 60 on switch And that's like the only thing technically that bothers me Otherwise, it's just the lack of information on all these new ideas. I'm glad they have a bunch of new ideas But I don't know anything about them. I don't know what I'm supposed to be excited about like Oh, so we can now do this this Transformation and turn them into these weird I don't know that I like the look of the the crystallization of them, but that's a that's a personal preference Um, but like you can turn into this crystallized version and bring in these other types Right, bring in a fire type bring in a water type bring into this type Um, like, you know, you have your I don't know the characters in the game But let's say you have you have a charizard and it's fire and you want to add a water type to it cool Hey, I'm just wondering Why I'm supposed to be excited by that versus just playing without transforming my pokemon What about that mechanic makes it supposed to be exciting? Pretty It's new It's new. I just don't know enough about like it sounds like is it a necessary mechanic or is it a This is just something different to be different See what I think is that it's different. Yeah, it's different to be different. Okay It's different to be different. Yeah, I'm asking the pokemon mega fan here because okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's what they do They add a gimmick and it's been like this since gen 6. That's not to say that the gimmicks are always great Uh, sometimes they're not sometimes they are really cool Uh, I it adds a type if you if you're a competitive player to some extent I think this would definitely be more interesting. I don't I'm not a competitive player So I think it looks fine. It's not anything to be excited about Um If you're a competitive player, I can see why you would be excited But that's what I mean when I say they the trailer was definitely catered more to people who were into pokemon and not like new fans Okay, nothing in this trailer is going to attract anyone new It's just going to excite people who are already going to buy it Okay That's that's fair That's fair. I mean, I think that's what they've been doing a long time is just catering to current fans It'd be it'd be interesting if I ever heard out of the mouth And it's a stupid thing like when the sonic frontiers team said this Oh, we're aiming to be a highly reviewed game. I'm like, what shouldn't you always be what? But I don't think the pokemon company legitimately doesn't we don't need a pokemon game rated in the 90s. We're good I think they sell sonic but more sales Yeah, the same middle in quality. It's just more sales I think most people just they know that it's not It the only thing it has going for it is that it sells and the gameplay loop is immensely fun Yeah, I wonder when it's gonna start to like stop though With the gimmicks or like you kind of wonder Oh, like how long can they get away with it? Like just just kind of mediocre with a lot of things Yeah till it stops selling I mean, I don't think a drastic change would come until it hits a point Like if they if they release like back-to-back pokemon games that can't cross 10 million, then yeah, probably Um, you gotta think they have more than just the games. It's like the card game the show That kind of stuff keeps people in And when people are in they're gonna buy the game or if like your kid watches pokemon The parents just gonna buy them a game and not know any better Uh, and these kind of things will just generate more sales that just it kind of feeds into itself with all the extra stuff the games Always came first before the anime plushies and all that and I feel like they kind of Like lost sight of that I wonder how popular they got really lucky They got really really lucky with um the success of the first pokemon game And um because they had this whole gameplay loop and catching monsters and stuff But I feel like yeah, they lost a little bit of sight of it in a way, but You know time and stuff, I guess Yeah, that's that's my opinion. I'm gonna clarify something as well. Um the tera types they actually Change the type they don't actually add to so it just it will actually change the type. Yep. Mm-hmm Okay, I could have swear the leak said that it was uh, they added a type I'm on scurril and violet's website. I'm on the pokemon website for scurril and violet and it says Um for each pokemon has a tera type the pokemon's tera type is inactive until the pokemon Uh, terrorizes at which time the pokemon's type will change to its tera type Aerotolizes And I have a hard time spelling that but yeah But I don't get why it says terrorized, but it's a crystal I don't know. I just didn't the whole crystal part doesn't really fit the theme like the mood I thought maybe it was gonna be like uh, that would be more of like a brilliant thing to do Because they're shiny. Yeah, I was like yeah, and it's something I said before I was wondering how popular the pokemon anime the series still is. Yeah, um It's it's in the top three Uh naruto is the most popular anime in the world Is it really I feel like one piece should be the most dragon ball is the most popular No dragon dragon ball actually It's it's naruto like dragon ball. It's naruto and then it's probably pokemon, but that's yeah It's probably pokemon, but it's because Pokemon has such a dominance in the united states and canada All right, can I say something about that joule terraria? Whatever terrestal terrestal, I'm eventually gonna memorize that thing maybe so I mean Isn't the fun of the the entire Thing about pokemon is gotta catch them all. Why do you catch them all? They all have the different abilities.  They're a grass type. There's this type So you can't tell me that I don't have to catch them all this time I can just catch whatever I want and make it whatever type you want Well, not whatever one only one other type So if you have like a fire pokemon you can make it a completely different type only once So you don't know though until it you don't know what a type it is until it actually does So you could catch one you could catch two I can make it a fire And they already have they already have it you don't make them anything Yeah, they already have it when you catch them. You just don't know until they Terrestal eyes What which one they change to so utilize they catch Did they mention how that works on like dual type pokemon like if you're fire flying and It that territorializes water You become water Come water. I I assume just I have no idea. Here's the thing. That's one of those things where they didn't give us the details So we don't really know. Yeah, we really don't know that would be maybe it's explained in the leaks But we're not we're not going to the leaks figure it out One nice thing that would have been a little bit better in depth and maybe again like Mike said maybe there's another pokemon presents that's just To this well, they'll be I guarantee you there will be a dedicated scarlet violet pokemon direct or presents Before it comes out Guarantee that's going to happen I'm not sure when they're going to time it because october is pretty packed But pokemon company also doesn't give a crap or anyone else is doing they'll just do it when they want to do it So I mean could be next month could be october I would presume they they wouldn't wait till november to do a blowout because there's so many other big games coming up from other companies That they they just want to run their commercials then and you're in the home stretch then So I'm assuming october at some point. They'll probably throw one out there, but who knows They beat the the beat of their own drum and it's worked incredibly well. I give the pokemon company one bit of credit they have Maintained the series popularity For multiple decades even if they can't maintain its peak They have maintained a very Certain plateau of of popularity They haven't fallen off the cliff like nintendo is trying to avoid with the next hardware Where nintendo typically falls off a cliff after having a huge success. So they haven't done that pokemon is never really Hit rock bottom Um So yeah, I don't want it to hit rock bottom Yeah, yeah I started enjoying pokemon with with sword and shield the game that some that other people didn't like So I I like sword and shield and my daughter who never played pokemon at all She she started playing with sword and shield uh, you know and Arceus was good and I think I think is what I think they're headed in a good way uh, this one Obviously it's gonna be better than the for that than the last and you know I mean That's good, you know, okay. So let's spin this around And and end this topic with some positivity. I had a couple questions. Do you have any questions? Go for it. Um So, I mean, I enjoyed it. It the presents was okay. Um It kind of made me a little bit excited You know to play actually be able to play pokemon with you. Um, but uh, you know Uh, uh, no, don't don't listen. Don't don't fall for his bs.  He's supposed to play with me He still hasn't so yeah So I'm excited to play pokemon with you. Okay.  Just are you excited? I'm still waiting for the game. We actually play together, right? Hasn't happened yet No, no for sure The only one we actively attempted was the one game that we had to both have an x-max for Yeah, because we couldn't play it local. I mean we played Kirby together Well, yeah technically that launch Um, but we just handed the controller back and forth for a part of it because at one point it's like Oh, this is a little like really easy when we're both just spanking but uh No, um So it showed you that that that tarot tarot is a terastalization jeepers And the four players battling the the cool thing that I that I thought came out of that was that you just didn't have to wait For like turns you would just attack at your own Thing But then they're like well once it's defeated you have a chance to catch it Well, does that apply to all four of you? Does it apply to only one of you? How does that work? They just they didn't they didn't qualify, you know Qualify that it's gonna be like the raid battles in sword and shield where everyone can catch that's what I was kind of thinking But they didn't they didn't clarify that so I'm just kind of wondering it's like well, you know How does another thing where I think they just assumed because it was it's the raid battles again And it's just we use in a different gimmick with the raid battle that they just Assume that you that you know, it's all gonna follow over from the last game Uh, that's at least my that was my understanding is it's just gonna be this thing But then again the new gimmick For those of us that haven't played old pokemon games It'd be nice to know that You know it would be So it's you know, yeah, yeah, it's all common sense. No. No, it's really not if you haven't played it And I'm not I'm not coming at anybody. So But the other the other biggest thing that I I kind of came out of this is So pokemon company We know swats down a whole bunch of stuff, right?   But I just it just blew my mind that I'm like, oh my god they have like these massive competitions and All these all these things that it's like, you know, the pokemon company was so strict with their stuff And then you turn around a nintendo who's you know A little bit more lenient you can do you can use their trailers. They can you can use their music You can use some of their stuff there, you know, whatnot And they're like the second you try to organize a um smash post turning like no, no, you're done. You can't Why That that was the one thing that I just kind of came out of there going, huh? You did not see that one coming But yeah overall, I thought it was I thought the game looked Look good. So So let's end this by each giving two things that we're Looking forward to with this game So I think this conversation turned into a lot of criticism Um First is excitement, uh, which is okay because bottom line is that these are honest and true feelings and honest and true criticism And that's all I really want from anybody who's on our show is to be truthful. Don't or hide out. You really feel Tell us how you really feel. I mean what's even cool about Justin He's like a mega fan and he's like, yeah, no, that's mediocre. This is mediocre. But you know, it's fun enough So I'll keep buying it. I try to admit when they're they're bad.  Hey, if you're having fun, enjoy You know You know, we probably only live once so you might as well enjoy What you enjoy, um, even if it makes other people upset because they want it to be different It's whatever. You're not there to please them You gotta worry about yourself when it comes to entertainment As long as the entertainments aren't harmful quite literally to others Be careful with the entertainment. It might be fun to shoot roman candles or strangers But you can negatively hurt somebody else in a very serious way. So don't do that Trust me.  Don't do that I never hurt anyone But I definitely got a lot of angry neighbors So I'm shooting at their cars and they drove by Oh, that was not that was not one of my brighter moments in my life. I was very fortunate. Nothing worse happened uh So Let's let's kick it over to mike. Give me two things that you're looking forward to with pokemon scarlet violet um Okay, I'm looking forward to exploring because uh when it comes to games I love I love open maps where you could just explore, you know, just go wherever you want I like the openness of uh, uh, or in the freedom of actually going to any gym you want Right completing the the the game in you know in any form you want I like I like the fact that it does have three story lines, you know You can go back and complete. I don't care about the about the difficulty levels I just I just like stories and I like adventure, you know So that that that that's one right there comes a one that story line You know a storyline and exploring basically I raised that my two, right? Yeah Yeah, you're good. So yeah, uh, the map looks incredible. Like I gotta say that the the actual map Looks huge. Looks huge. Yeah, it looks amazing. I I like this map more than I like the one from it for a while It looks beautiful. So I they they went up that you know, uh, so yeah, uh exploring and um Just having a new experience, you know, just having something new to look forward to I'm mandy I'm excited to play a Mainline Pokemon game again Since we're in shield, I didn't really enjoy I'm really looking forward to enjoying this one um I'm looking forward to um Exploring as well The open world looks very very nice Not the prettiest, but you know A lot of space to play in And the third one just for bone is lechoc Nice Justin um I'm really looking forward to Wooper's evolution.  So that looks I can't wait to see more of that um Just the exploration an actual open world Legends was almost there and that was a lot of fun So I'm really interested to see what they do with a completely open world and how that's going to work Nice Eric Obviously the multiplayer that that was the biggest thing for me um And then it's going to be interesting to see Some of the newer pokemon that they really haven't announced Yet because some of the newer ones I kind of like the designs It feels like they kind of got back to their their roots a little bit with designs of pokemon Not just picking random everyday objects and going yeah, that's a pokemon. Yeah, that's a pokemon. Sure. Why not, you know um, but uh um No, it'll just be interesting to see the kind of the new Newer pokemon that they have in here that they haven't you know Explained yet, so Sure for me The whole idea of there being three stories I'm really intrigued by this because In theory it could almost be like three pokemon games in one because I Haven't cared about catching them all Since like the first couple generations of pokemon until legends arceus, which makes you catch them all um So I I kind of gotten over this whole I got to complete the pokedex I got to get everything I got to get every type I got to get every version So since that's not really a huge appealing factor to me anymore um What is still is completing the main quest but there's three of them and Only one of them's a Only one of them's about the gems Which would typically be what the only quest is Besides a little little side story rival side stories and other stuff. So I I'm very curious what these three stories are. I'm with the two in particular that aren't about the gems are uh And and how you do them and obviously I've assumed a lot of it comes through side quests or exploring the world and finding Like I'm just how does this work? Because in the past it's always been built around that central story that central theme the central Concept of going through gems or you know arenas or you know The couple games are where they got rid of that stuff, but then still had something that's sort of replaced it in a different way And then you had like a post game Yeah, I'm not I'm not talking like three post games I guess But I don't even think the the way it was described didn't even sound like it was post game There's literally three mainline stories in this game at least based on what I understand of it So it's not a good post game. There's just Three stories and you can do any of them. You don't you can just skip the gems entirely and do something else The gems don't even matter So I'm really curious how how that plays the dichotomy of it all and Um, obviously we don't know enough information for me to really say more than that. It's just the idea Sounds exciting to me I need to know more about it, but the idea sounds really exciting So hopefully I am still carrying that same excitement once we find out like what these additional stories are Or at least not the entire story But you know an idea of the gameplay and the the pathway of a hit is one of them focused on multiplayer Don't know they didn't really they didn't really tell us. Uh, the other thing I'm excited about and It feels weird for me to say it But exploration with friends Because I honestly don't think I'm going to enjoy exploring this world as much as I did With zelda as much as I like the map and I think the Terrain differences will be more drastic and and more interesting at times I don't think there's going to be as much cool things to discover in the world I think it's going to be heavily focused on just finding a new pokemon Uh, because that's usually the point of the game is finding new pokemon I don't think there's going to be a lot of like, oh, there'll be some broken down runes here Or there'll be some cool thing over here that references something from a different game or this and I just That's not really what pokemon is typically So I think a lot of the discovery is just going to lead to discovery new pokemon, which is totally fine by the way But not as exciting to me as Exploring a world where you're trying to find the story of that world in the world The one thing I give credit to legends arceus for is they kind of had that in there. There was a little bit of Discovering a world within the world while exploring But it wasn't ever really fully fleshed out And maybe maybe they do that in this game Maybe maybe that is a thing and we just don't know yet But I am looking forward to exploring the world regardless because I love exploration. I love just finding things It's cool the the moment I can walk into a town from any direction My mind is going to be blown because I've never been able to do that in pokemon And it's going to make me think am I really playing a pokemon game right now? And then when I'm doing it with a friend because they already confirmed you can walk into towns with friends Suddenly I have suddenly suddenly I got mandy lee justin mike and myself eric sorry Just because I don't know if I should know I won't be playing it. Yeah, we'll be playing it That'll be but all of a sudden we're all just running into a town together and we can like visit the shops and do Different things. I hope it's not just literally we can run into the town.  So assuming we can still interact with stuff like that is That that just sounds like such a level of gameplay enjoyment that pokemon has been missing because it's always sort of Hit on the tip of the iceberg of what multiplayer is but oh battles. Oh trades. Oh now we added raid battles Okay, but what about the rest of pokemon? Set battles aside. What about the rest of the game? I thought I'm gonna do the rest of the game together And I don't think we'll be able to complete all the quests together or anything like that But can we do some of them? Are there some side quests out in the open world that we can do together? I don't know and I'm excited for that prospect of exploring the world with friends and finding that out Even if my dreams are crushed before the game comes out We'll see. I don't know. I don't know But Yes, the exploration with friends And the whole concept of the three stories are things I'm super excited for And I gotta give it to you you mentioned something there that caught my imagination And it's the the when you said you were Finding clues and finding things that that were left in the the field right to And it made me think about yeah, I mean how about we can kind of Merge a type of Zelda type of game with pokemon where you have to Solve something in order to reach an area where you find this type of rare pokemon You know what I mean like that type of explanation type that type of Discovery, you know what I mean not just walk around and just oh, there's one right there Just look at me. What do you want? Okay, well here you go, you know Have that kind of excitement and you know have like different areas where you have to solve something in order to get somewhere and Then have that reward of being presented with that pokemon right there You know ready to catch and then they'll make it that easy to catch make making a challenge In order for you to you know catch that that way when you have it you can show it off You know and say hey Twitter Got nothing. Let me dude You know but that pokemon That that would be great dude if they could actually emerge that idea of exploration of Problem solving like puzzles and stuff in order to you know reap the reward of catching a pokemon and not just having it out there Looking at you like like you own money, you know Yeah, I hear you Thank you. Thank you. Thank you appreciate it. You're welcome You're welcome So He was he was cheering for himself. He was cheering for Oh, good. Good. Good point, Mike. Good point. Yes. Yes um all right Let's get into our uh last topic we got uh, and this is Just general thoughts on how we feel the switch is doing here through this first half of 2022 We did have the most recent financial report. There were just some notes from that You know we're now at 111.08 million switches sold today Or I should say shipped if you want to be correct But for nintendo shipped is sold because that means retailers bought it from them already So they already got their money. It don't matter if it's still on the shelf nintendo already got paid for it So for those who don't know how retail works. So nintendo for their purposes has sold a 111.08 million switches Uh curbie in the forgotten land. We have the sales update for that. It's up to 4.5 million sales It is now the second best-selling curbie game of all time. It's only behind curbie's dreamland which sold 5.13 million units Fun thing is it's probably gonna by the end of this holiday season. I've already passed that It's it's well on pace too. It's well on pace too. I love curbie. So yay mine cart eight the lux is like 46. Something million and Yeah, it's a beast the crazy thing about that game besides obviously we all know that you know They got the dlc down and wave two is dropping here literally the day after this podcast it goes up uh Dude besides this being a wii game ported over We mentioned how like pokemon this one's like themed around spain the upcoming one My card eight the lux is now one million copies sold short of It being more than the number of people who live in spain Hey, you put it on the notes. I was like what the heck? Yeah That's insane. Yeah. Yeah, like by the end of this year by our card eight the lux will Solve more copies than people live in a really big country. So that's that's insane. So that was just to put in perspective how popular Anyways, so That's just some fun notes You can go through all the other sales data and see all the sales update numbers and stuff Like the 1.91 million that I think so the mario strikers were launched and all that stuff But what I actually just want to get or kind of a how we feeling From january to today About nintendo switch just this year just taking this this 2022 And only talking about this not taking the full scope of the five plus years the system has been out How we feeling about the switch right now? Uh, and let's go to justin for this first one Uh, I'm feeling okay. I really like legends I bought kirby but didn't get a chance to actually play it and then I was really looking forward to the switch sports and mario strikers, but switch sports didn't have Golf on it. I don't think it still has golf. So I didn't pick it up and then maybe strikers released So little content at launch I didn't really want to pick that up until we started getting some of the updates for it Uh, I mean bayonetta looks really good pokemon looks really good the back half is gonna look really good But as of right now, I think I've only played like two games on my switch this year I picked up a live alive and xeno blade But I haven't gotten xeno blade in the mail yet So I haven't played it. You're not the only one. I've seen a number of people who haven't gotten it yet And mine ship on friday or it said it was supposed to ship friday And then it just kept getting delayed and now it's delayed till thursday It gets delayed like every couple days No, that's fun. This isn't shipping fun I love it So so feeling all right just just all right about everything so far Just all right. I think most of the games that I skipped or haven't had a chance to play yet are probably really good Like curbie and xeno blade Having not played no, I can't give my opinion on them You know, you can do it till xeno like it's here play some curbie. Yeah I I should uh instead I started playing spider men again. That's all right. That's all right. Which one? That one's a good game Uh the remaster for ps5. Okay the remaster one. Did you play miles and miles at all? I did on the ps4. Um when it first came out. I just got a ps5 at the last year Um, so I when I bought this one, I started to go back to the first one and then I'm going to play miles again Nice nice cool Excellent games by the way, so uh, let's go to eric. Let's jump around a little bit here How you feeling about this year on switch so far to date? You know, it was one of those that was hyped massively mainly because of one game and then it lost it So it are you talking about strikers? No. Yes. Yes. This is about how you feel I don't know no no breath a while too, but but that's it wasn't coming first half of this year anyways, huh But it was supposed to come this year. We were talking about this year when we're talking about this year up to now Not not the rest of my aim is understanding Just just to frame the conversation. No, let's turn it to the rest of 2022. Yeah, no, we'll recap 2022 at the end of 2022 Fair enough So I mean up to this point Kirby I've absolutely loved amen and Arceus still want to get back to it, but again Finding time and yes, and leaving your switch here and leaving my switch here and yeah Yeah, you know my brain is just mush at points um Yeah, I I think it was okay solid not overly exciting but solid okay, um I'll I guess I'll go next year Since I always end up going last I feel like it's kind of a dick move. No, it's my show don't always go last So I think this year was You know, I gotta gotta think like all the games that we got.  Sorry. I'm a warriors three hopes uh and you know Live alive is in a bit three It's a pretty good lineup I think the one thing missing is a big seller outside of january But it's hard for me to be mad about that When we have zero big or not seem a three us platoon three coming up that that's going to be in a big sale Another pokemon game coming up.  So I Think that it was actually probably one of the better first halves like when I think back to like 2019 There was hardly anything to play in the first half But everyone remembers 2019 fondly because 2019 had a banger Final five months of the year would just hit after hit after hit after hit So people remember 2019 fondly forgetting that it didn't really start that strong um and 2018 For the most part was kind of a dry year But people remember fondly because it ended with super smash brothers So sometimes people remember a year for how it ended and forget how everything started and I do think switch had to I think people I think there was a really nice start to this year clearly legends arceus No one's even talking about it right now and that was such a great start to the year In curvy I think was a really really interesting start But it feels weird because since those couple of games A lot of games have sort of felt like let downs like switch sports Could be more than it is but it's not so it's it just kind of feels like it's halfway there Um are your strikers amazing gameplay still just kind of feels like it's halfway there It's just not quite as good as it probably should be But then we get to the last couple of releases the fireman warriors three hopes game It's actually pretty good People aren't really talking about it But it's actually it's actually pretty good live alive was a really good game back in the day And everyone's saying it's a really good game right now is you know the chronicles three One of the highest rated games of the year So they kind of came back around to releasing a bunch of really really high quality games on switch And when I say they I just mean all game developers might just focus on just nintendo so It kind of feels like so far it's been sort of an up and down first half But it almost says there's probably been more ups and downs So I would honestly say this is not as good as like the first half of 2017 which how are you gonna beat zelda and spittoon and mario kart and all that like at the first like that just I'm sorry. That's an insane start to any year. I don't know. I don't know that we'll ever have a start quite like that But when I looked at all the other years like the start of 2018 wasn't that great the start to 2019 wasn't that great the start to 2020 I mean it's animal crossing and then does anyone remember anything else that came out Probably not There's probably a lot of games that just can't remember you know 2021 we had bowser's fury and then Now there's other games of course Because 2021 someone's going to mention how did you not say monster hunter rise? I know I know It's just on pc now. That's why it's sort of a a mental block if it's no longer technically an exclusive But I mean it's a console exclusive so I uh I kind of look at it as I feel like we've had a stronger maybe the strongest first half since launch year So it's hard for me to really complain too much about it When there's that many exclusives in the first half of the year I don't know any other platform. Is there any other platform besides pc with a bunch of indie exclusives? Getting that many exclusives in the first half of the year and it's a wide variety of games Like they're touching on like everything If you're super hardcore j rpg you got your hg 2d, you know kind of friendly j rpg You got your fam family style rpg So there's your three big rpg with pokemon legends arceus Then you have your really cool fun platformer Kind of cutie platformer and Kirby that ends up being maybe the best Kirby game of all time Uh, then you got your you know your family sports games get fitting in there with switch sports and in your mario strikers And you got your hardcore hack and slash with fire emblem warriors three hoops like they're not hitting every genre But they hit quite a few of them at the start of the year TMNT and TMNT and all the and by the way Triangle strategy too at the beginning Yeah triangle strategy as well in the year So I I wasn't really getting it like TMNT is not exclusive. So I wasn't really getting into that But I know that's on switch. Yes. Yes. There's a lot of good games on switch So and I know we often focus on the excuses, but there's there's a lot of third party games as well Uh, yeah, we didn't get elden ring. I know What do you want me to do about it? I don't I don't work for them. I don't make those decisions But what I what I will say is this is a really strong First half the year I find as much as I might have been critical about individual games I also praised individual games. I've been doing nothing. What praisings in the way three I haven't said a bad thing about legends archies and ages. It's nothing but positivity Uh curbie. I don't think I have a bad thing I can say about curbie Although then I want more of it right announced some dlc I love this so much. I want more. Uh, so I I don't really have like the for every game I'm critical of there's all these other games. I praise so And I can tell you this For the last six months, I have been playing more switch games Then I have it any other period in switches life other than 2017 So I would say that makes us a pretty big w in my book like this is This is a uh A pretty good first half of the year Now my problem is I'm so biased that I say this Assuming that Breath of the Wild 2 comes out in spring next year. I won't need any other game So and that'll automatically be my favorite six month period just because I got that but again That's always the super fan bias for for one particular IP I realize not everyone's gonna want to play that so then is that really a strong first half of it's all they have No, I'm sure Nintendo might have other games, too But I don't know that's just my my kind of thoughts on that Do you have anything else you want to add Eric before we move on? No, okay I know you're doing some research over there. All right. Um, let's go to Mike What are your thoughts on this first half of 2022? Well, you hit most of my points, but I'm going to go ahead and add more stuff Uh, basically in my opinion, I think it's been a uh a fire a year half of a year Why because it's been it's been one of the most diverse Years when it comes to game releases that I've seen in a long time Okay, everybody got their their their their fix when it comes to what RPGs or or adventure Or Kirby type of games, you know platformers I think that you know, it's been a it's been a really a really good year for everybody means Ending uh starting a game a year with pokemon and then ending it with pokemon.  They had the same exact experience they did with with with with the we And it's still a uh a friday night game here Uh in the game room. So for me, that's a winner. Uh mario strikers. I didn't get at all.  That's somebody's favorite game. You know what I mean? So it's been a very diverse Very good Half of a year. Okay, and then of course the second half looks even better. I mean, I think I'm I'm I'm happy with the year I have nothing really bad to say about the year at all. Uh, I wasn't even upset when they when they, um Well, after they announced pokemon, uh scarlet and violet when they delayed breath of the wild like, you know It's expected. Look at this year at the beginning of the year. We were like looking at this Look and eric, we're looking at this lineup like what the heck is going on this year The lineup is good, right and halfway through Yeah, our opinions kind of vary depending on what game comes out and how they they're received But to me it's still a pretty banger year. It's still it's still um in half of a year and you know, I have nothing nothing but Good thing to say about it to me diverse Diversity in games is great because at the end Nintendo is appealing to the masses instead of just to one certain crowd You know and and yeah, I mean I gave it a Uh, uh, maybe an a yeah, I'm not gonna be a plus, but I'll give it an a for the first half of the half of the year maybe Oh, okay, so The best for last I think I don't think we got an adjusted yet. So I don't I don't know what Oh Listen, I did get what? Oh, yeah, he started it. Sorry. It was like a half hour ago. So I forgot. I forgot See this someone's paying attention. Everyone but me apparently is paying attention. I'm I'm drunk. I'm going home. Wait. I wait. Yeah, right. Wait. All right. Go on. Go ahead, maybe well, I think the switch lineup has been Very very good. Like I've had a I've never had a point where I had nothing to play It's just non-stop and I like a variety of games so Just having fun with the games. I mean the only downside is it's expensive like really expensive, but The games have been really good. I've been enjoying a lot of them And I knew Breath of the Wild was probably going to be delayed and you know, if it needs time, but we have other bangers And like monster hunter rise and then the sunbreak dlc That was really good. It took up a lot of my time So I've been having fun like Having so much fun with the switch lately And I've made more time to play it instead of just like Talking about games that I've actually played So, yeah, I've been having a good time. Can't wait for the future nice Nice. Yeah. Yeah, the future unknown now the known unknown Delays. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, we know what's the we know. What's in the near future just Just like if they actually come in like like what a joy see jay say like many streams ago. Hey You know what? I got breaking news for you on Breath of the Wild too It's going to come out someday Same for every game you guys are excited for out there supposedly become someday until it doesn't like scale bound You don't even know why I brought that game up. It just makes me angry So we started going over every possible cancel game it's a ribbon No, I'm just getting mad dread came out. Yeah Eventually came out. Betrayed dread finally came out. Yeah, that is correct.  Even the dead can come back sometimes. So never say never. I mean technically You know, we got the last guardian which was a dead game for a long time too.  Never say never That's right snowboard kids, baby Never say never gonna predict the breath of the wild to release date. Oh, here we go.  No, I'm gonna say this the same exact Date an hour to the minute. Well, I mean the hour doesn't really matter For me it matters. Why does it go for it? Go for it. What do you have? What do you have one word at midnight? I predict I predict That breath of the wild to It's gonna come out Exclusively on the Nintendo switch. Oh, that's my first prediction. Okay. Okay. My second prediction My second prediction that breath of the wild to Is coming out On march 3rd Because it's a friday 2020 there because it's friday It's anniversary and it's friday exactly one year Exactly one year to breath of the wild The first game. I mean, it's they cannot miss that opportunity. Literally. It's not spring Yes, that they're not spring yet, right? Yeah, not yet.  That's that's that's bold Yeah, I mean have to man. They have to Have to kick their butts. I'm thinking more like the 24th, but Is that also on friday? Yes, and it's technically in spring And it would be the final uh, well not the final friday of their fiscal year But the final one they can get a full weekend of sales and we want to make a bet A bet if you win I buy you the game. I buy you the game if you win you buy from me But I might want that collector's edition, but So I'm just saying See it's not pushing too far because I'm literally going to buy the flexors edition But is there going to be a collective edition of breath of the wild? I guarantee you more likely. No, no, no. So what it is is you buy we have it for bayonet You buy one to give away at the other channel That works too. Yeah, there we go So that way you can buy your your collector's edition and but but he could buy when I give away You buy one for you to give away or you can buy one He could just buy it. I never open the collector's edition.  We get we get upgrade to collector's edition. You do that Wait, it's only like under about 100 bucks, right? 100 bucks. I have no idea It could be crazy price the one that came with the the master sword statue last time was pretty expensive But yeah, it's it's all about I don't remember that was a launch. I think the ones that we got were 100 Yeah, and then they had like 150 or 200 dollar one. I can't remember but they have very limited quantities So we couldn't get it But um, anyways, there'll probably be some sort of collector's edition. Watch watch. It's a it's a it's a system bundle collector's edition That dude I'd be all on top of that. I would buy it but damn Or I got a Buddy that's all I know any sort of thing Yes, I mean just because I I'll never sell it. It'll just be a collector's system I mean, I'll use it But it'll be a collector's system once I'm done using it.  I was gonna say I could I could I could I could pour the foot. No, I'm not taking it apart build like build like a A little end table and then you pour the the stuff into it like like will get hauled it with a With the game boys that everyone got mad about although it turns out so he claims all those game boys were broken, but I don't know if they actually were Not like what are you gonna do? Go break his resin table and find out right?  So Was it worth it? Yes, it was the feeling probably was yes You gotta understand it was a culmination Of I was it was a long live stream where I was putting liquid metal on the xbox series x And I successfully did it Now there was extra screws That I forgot where they went But it worked And it worked for a long time after and I ended up selling it I told the person I sold it by the way, I put liquid metal on this I'm just letting you know you're gonna have to change that liquid metal in like a year Because liquid metal doesn't last that long. So I'm just letting you know, but it's gonna have insane thermals until then Yeah, and it's like can I put thermal paste back on it? I'm like what you could try I don't I don't know the liquid metal by the eight away at the heat sink. I can't get I told the guy I cannot guarantee you That in a year, this will still work Or without replacing the heat sink at least because it could eat away at the heat sink and it was a copper heat sink So it should be okay But I can't guarantee it right like it wasn't built for liquid metal And there may be three or four screws missing No, I sent from the screws. I sent from the screws. Yeah, I said, hey, and when you take it apart Here's the screws if you if you actually use a guide. I didn't use a guide. So here you go But anyways in celebration of it working. I smashed the page and I was like, why am I This thing sucks Okay, just because it works It would take so long to get into a game the controllers I had for it didn't work unless you had them plugged in And the thing ran like a jet engine and would heat a room Faster than look look we've got one two three four four computers run in this room Crapload of monitors don't even want to count them all mobile devices And I'm telling you the one PlayStation 3 Just running a movie Would heat us out of this room. We'd have to leave the room. We'd be sweat. We'd have to leave So I'm sorry. I had frustrations with the system already So I just had screw it and I knew I was going to get a ps5 someday, which I did So yeah, I don't know it just In hindsight Knowing how the scarcity of the PlayStation 2 playable version Probably shouldn't have done that Probably should have instead took it apart and seen if just cleaning it what I made it quieter Yeah, because that probably would have fixed it or I could just replace the fan quieter fan on or solve it or solve it I mean, I probably could have got good money for it since I didn't make them anymore Could have gave it away and a lot of people on the channel wanted me to give it away No, don't give it to me. Give it to me.  They call me an e-bagger. No, I'm gonna sledge it I let out some real anger and the funny thing is I broke my sledge Now the end doesn't stay on anymore So now I gotta get a new sledge hammer. Actually, no, I probably should just fix it.  So that was the thing People people kept buying me shots because I do shots on my live streams And they kept buying me shots to see how bad I'd mess up my xbox because the the fun story is most of the chat hated xbox So they wanted me to ruin it And I didn't so I celebrated by ruining the PlayStation. It would have only been better if I would have grabbed a switch and sledge that instead Yeah, yeah, you guys hate xbox so much. Well, I did it.  So like it wouldn't even been that huge that make of a deal if I would have broken but um Anyways Fun little story to end the stream a little bit of the story time. So thank you guys so much for tuning in You can find links to all of our podcast guests, Mike We got gosh Something yoda. What is it again? I'm the helpful yoda unhelpful yoda. That's what it is I was about to see say unhidden yoda and I'm like wait a second Wait a second that that don't sound right It's unhelpful yoda. You can find his his channel is like down below as well Very small content creator go help him out. I watched a couple of his videos today. And you know what? Not bad Not bad I actually am probably going to watch another one before I go to bed. I don't know Why am I strangely enjoying this new youtube channel? Um, you can also find mandy lee plays down there as well For our two I guess you want to tell them a little bit about what you guys do at your channel for those who might not know Um, I'm a nintendo channel and I do videos on Nintendo games some reviews Top tens or top fives. I also live stream on the weekends So, yeah Oh Subscribe to mandy lee plays Why do I always feel so awkward saying Subscribe like and subscribe Let's get her to 50,000 subscribers. Let's go Okay, well, I don't know. All right, Justin want to tell me a little bit of what you do Um, I kind of just make videos on whatever I feel like that week. I usually post on a monday Uh, mostly games, but sometimes it's manga or anime or something Um, you can subscribe at unhelp fiyota Uh, I appreciate it. I get like 10 views of video. So 11 or 12 views would be fantastic. Thank you. Yeah, go check it out guys All right. Well, you guys, um, have a good rest of your night All of our listeners do as well You can catch our podcast everywhere the pockets of her we're on literally all of the major anyways podcast applications including apple Google spotify Those are like the three big ones, but there there's a few other ones we're on as well for on a heart. I heard We are not on I heart. No, I heart radio. No, we're not on my heart radio. No No, maybe someday, but we're not on there. We might also be on xm radio someday But we're not yet. We're not yet. We I have some connections to get there But we got to have a bit of a bigger a significantly bigger audience Uh, and you gotta be invited That and you can find our video version of the podcast after the you know If you're listening to the audio version, you can find it at the nintendo prime podcast youtube channel Just type nintendo prime podcast into Uh youtube search and it'll pop up I'll support a link to it down in the audio description If you are watching the live version or you're watching the live version after the fact Notes know that this version will not stay live the moment that I actually get it uploaded Over to the other channel what you get in the benefits of the upload over there is you actually get the podcast intro You get the podcast outro you also typically get time stamps for the topics And on top of that you actually get it where everyone's audio is perfectly leveled because even though I have This whole setup here and it makes things easier. I still go through and just double check the levels So we're all even so as an example if there was a moment that just it might have been a little bit Quiet that'll be taken care of there were some moments that eric was a little bit quiet Let me take care of if anyone started peeking randomly that'll get taken care of as well Uh, and I know there was something happening with eric and I know what was happening I'll talk to him about it off off the off the uh live though. So thank you guys so much for tuning in Like and subscribe obviously at nintendo prime eric. I think if I knew what on twitter Yeah, you know 8790. That's it. What? Yeah, that's it Mike We're gonna find you They can find me at my car to see Mike got to see yt and Mike got to see yt on social media and also uh at uh Nintendo nintendo topics podcast. Yeah, yeah every end of the month So, uh, go catch the ladies podcast with the voice actress of Rosalina. She's also the voice actress of gets an impact. I forgot that name the That's so cool. I get your impact Rosalina and others So go ahead and check that out on also any podcast channels as well Nice, that's where i'm at Nice, and i'm here nintendo prime the buggin nate on the chat. So yeah, yeah all the time He's trolling me all the time. What was it you were doing today while I was live streaming of pokemon again I was I was reacting to nate reacting to pokemon That was hilarious Yeah, I reacted to the video, but then I ended it up and I gave my opinion, but then I switched to To react to nate's reaction and I was also lip syncing on nick on nate Of course, let's see what else I was doing Uh, we have we we're in the chat. We're having fun with nate. I'm just kind of trying to see what he was saying If we put in a mute and he was like moving his hand and all this movement stuff And then we just kind of fill in the blanks Ah, oh my gosh a lot of beeping. So basically he was mocking me for a little while and It's all right.  We're just reacting reacting Yeah, reacting to react to the react Inception I was like, should I be offended about the react to the react? You know what, you know what we should have really inceptioned it Well, you should have messaged me that you were reacting to me reacting So then I could have flipped over and reacted to you reacting to me Reacting to you Next look look expect it next time we have a presentation going on Turn the rack any presentation that respect I'll react to whatever's reacting, but now I'll react to you reacting to whatever you're reacting to It'll be like a never-ending show because like how do how do we stop when we just keep reacting to each other All right. Well, thank you guys so much for tuning in This was episode 61 of the nintendo prime podcast and we will catch you guys next week same time same place Wednesdays at 8 p.m. Central live. Otherwise, you can catch it the very next day on all of your on-demand areas sections