Hey Andres, thanks for the talk. Do you mind commenting quickly on Alternative consensus mechanisms that are being proposed in different blockchain environments And maybe how that impacts, you know, what your view is on the private versus public blockchain space as well. Thanks I think consensus algorithms are really a very interesting area. It's basically a new science started in January 3rd 2009 With one and if you look at the the number of academics pay academic papers published in this space and growing ads a Hyperbolic rates at the moment so hundreds and hundreds of PhD dissertations and papers on Consensus algorithms in the last year and I only expect that pace to increase. I expect we're going to see entire degrees Masters degrees perhaps or postgraduate and fills or PhDs focused on consensus algorithms There are many interesting experiments in that space But to me the really important thing is running your experiment in the wild at scale with real actors real money at stake And seeing how it survives in those conditions This is not a theoretical science This is an experimental science where we can run global scale experiments And prove these systems in real terms, and I think that that's really To use the trite expression where the rubber makes the road So until we see large-scale deployments of practical use of novel consensus algorithms I know one that works today, and that's proof of work. We'll see what comes next That doesn't mean You can't do it another way But I think it's also important to recognize that different consensus algorithms produce different characteristics and features proof of work produces thermodynamically guaranteed immutability, which is something you can't do any other way and Maybe with proof of stake we're going to see different results different features different characteristics This is a broad ecosystem in which different systems will specialize for fitness to a particular niche application use case and There's plenty of room for a lot of competition. This is not the old zero-sum National currency game where in any particular domain there can be only one and it's a winner takes all that's not what we're doing here It's completely different


Russians lost 24 tanks and 36 artillery systems in one day. Russia continues to suffer losses in its war of aggression against Ukraine as its defenders killed 850 Russian soldiers and destroyed 36 artillery systems and 24 armoured combat vehicles belonging to the Russians over the past 24 hours alone. General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said this. It is noted that during the war Russia lost 5,265 tanks, 9,901 armoured fighting vehicles, 7,328 artillery systems, 854 multiple launch rocket systems, 566 anti-aircraft warfare systems, 322 aircraft, 324 helicopters, 5,495 unmanned aerial vehicles, 9,691 vehicles and fuel trucks, 1,551 cruise missiles, 20 warships, stroke boats, one submarine, and 1,034 pieces of special equipment. So Ukraine says Russian forces lost hundreds of pieces of military equipment including tanks and artillery systems. Exact numbers of Russian troop losses are hard to pinpoint and Kiev's daily figures are higher than Western estimates. Last month the UK Ministry of Defence said it was likely that Russia had suffered between 150,000 and 190,000 permanent casualties including those killed and permanently wounded. This figure does not include personnel from the Wagner Group of mercenaries. Russia has reportedly suffered high losses of troops and equipment since it launched an offensive for the towns of Avdivka in the Donetsk Oblast. Despite these losses the Institute for the Study of War said that Moscow's forces were likely preparing for another wave of highly attritional infantry-led ground assaults on Ukrainian positions in the area.


Shaun will be joining us today to talk about livestock disease management, prevention and intervention. Shaun is a vet with over a decade of experience specialising in production animal health. After starting an added science degree, Shaun graduated from Vet Science in 2010 from Charles Sturt University. He worked in Western Victoria and Southern Western Australia before settling back into Millicent where he and his wife purchased the family-owned Millicent Vet Clinic and more recently purchased the Kingston Vet Clinic. Shaun is predominantly a production animal vet with a growing focus on working with farmers in an advisory setting to ensure productivity is maximised through on-farm management practices such as animal health programs and feed budget assessments. Shaun has delivered a variety of farmer extension programs and workshops and enjoys working one-on-one with farmers to find solutions for production problems. Shaun's session will outline how a preventative approach to animal diseases can be helpful in your business and it will also provide a framework to help you identify if you have problems and when to intervene. Thanks very much, Shaun. Yeah, thanks everyone. Thanks to Emily and Jody and the team for having us long and everyone for having us here, so hopefully we'll get something out of the day. So Nathan talked about getting vets involved and I guess I just want to start off sort of starting to say well why shouldn't you call a vet? And that's because most things are preventable. And probably can't see the caption for this cartoon at the back but it says this always stops the scours, the trouble is I have to stay here for too long. So, you know, we get called in when things have gone wrong and the theme keeps coming up but like Nathan said before, you know, you can predict the future even though you might not think that you can. So I don't necessarily want to be involved in doing, you know, putting out fires all the time and I think that we can certainly have a role in preventing your problems and that's not just in disease outbreaks where, you know, you have a heap of dead animals that can also be in poor production and, you know, poor growth rates or poor reproductive performance. So here's a couple of examples we'll run through and these are real life problems and outbreaks. So the first one, we had some lambs that were three months old, grazing some irrigated ryegrass that are still on mum. They started to die so I think we had about 25 dead out of 450. The ones that weren't dead were moribund that couldn't get up and they were pretty skinny so they scored one out of five. So let's just have a think about what that could be. It was pretty simple. It was just worms. It wasn't anything amazing or new or weird. It was just the old fashioned worm. Egg counts of those sick ones were nearly 6,000. It wasn't just barber's pole which might be a bit unusual for some people. It was a mixture of everything. So the costs on this outbreak, if we had 25 dead, say 200 bucks a pop, there's five grand. Costs in growth rates are probably a little bit harder to put a figure on but, you know, there was a lot of skinny lambs at three months of age. There's a lot of feed that's going to go back into them to try them, get them up to some sort of weight or you sell them as a store. So there's some losses there. Our bill was probably only about $400 in the whole scheme of it all. So the question was though, was this preventable? And so we'll come back to that. Second example, there's some heifers that were bought in for a trading job on a pasture fed situation. So they're bought in from lots of farms for the sale yards. They're grazed in a mob of about 600 head on a rotational system so pretty high intensity. So they had about six dead, about up to 20% probably coughing and a big crook on it. So the diagnosis here was pneumonia or BRD, respiratory disease. Same thing if we play out the costs. We've got about $12,000 worth of dead stock. We actually decided with the farmer to give the whole mob an antibiotic treatment because we weren't sure which one was going to die next or who was going to get sick next. So there's about $6,000 or $7,000 worth of drugs. And once again, our bill was about $400 or $500. So same thing, was this preventable? So when we're talking about disease management and it doesn't necessarily matter if it's disease, it can be sitting a use up for lambing. So are we going to be preventative or are we going to be reactive? And preventative is obviously we're trying to prevent the problem and reactive is we're reacting to the problem. And so preventative measures can involve implementing vaccination programs or management changes to prevent the disease or prevent the production loss. And so that might be doing something about your poor growth rates or poor reproductive performance. Whereas if we're reactive, all we can do really is find out what caused it. And we can find out, we might be able to find out what caused the outbreak. We might be able to stop a few more losses, a few more deaths. But it's already happened. It's all in the past. And the same with the production losses. But if we're being reactive, the losses have already happened.  The growth rates, the lost kilos that you lost in terms of selling store lambs, you're not going to find them under a rock. So it's already gone. So where are the costs between the two ways of managing it? So preventative, there's costs in professional advice. So engaging a vet or a consultant or an animal health advisor to try and do something preventative. There might be some additional costs in vaccines, additional costs in changing some management practices, maybe more yardings because you've got to do more vaccinations. Where's the cost in reactive management? Well, it's in mortalities and it's in loss production. And like I said, it's already gone. So you're not going to find the lost kilos or the lost animals that you've lost because we've waited for the problem to happen. So when are you going to intervene? And Deb's given us a pretty good lead-in on that with your new mortality sort of figures. The caption down on this cartoon says, maybe it's not me, you know, maybe it's the rest of the herd that's gone insane. So I guess it's a point of just of actually intervening and like Nathan said, what do the top guys do? Well, they have a bit of attention to detail and they act on things and they're proactive. So if you think something's up, do something about it.  Get ahead and get ahead of the game and do something. And so to intervene, we need to know a bit about mortality and production losses and scale and context also has a bit to do with when we do jump in and do something. But to start with, you need to be measuring. And so Deb and Nathan are both touched on this. You need to be measuring something so you can manage it. So when not many people knew their mortality results or their mortality figures, you know, that's a starting point. You need to know some of these numbers so that you can start to do something about it. So mortality levels, so, and I guess in terms of intervening, you've got to be looking at that in the present but also in the past. So as we spoke about reviewing your numbers and sort of knowing what figures to act on and Deb's given us some probably more accurate and up-to-date numbers than I've got here. So if you've got some benchmarks to work towards and you're reviewing your numbers, then you can start to do something about it. And I guess there's also just that, you know, in the present, well, I've lost one new today or like I made over here, he said, you know, found, what, four on five in the paddock? Well, you know, that's a point to react and do something rather than just letting it dribble along and getting to the end of the year and we've lost 10% of the use. Production data, that's a little bit more in the past, so that's much more about looking at what's happened and it's always going to be in the past because when we get our production data, it's, you know, it's happened. So the scanner comes out and he scans it, scans your sheep and you've got 140% conception. Well, that's really good, but he scans and you've only got 90% conception. Well, that's too late. It's already happened. You know about it, but there's not much you can do about it for that year. It's going to the next year. Same with growth rates. Well, we're measuring growth rates. There's not much you can do about it. This year, if it's a total growth rate, it's more about looking what happens next year. And so the things to look at for repo rates, it starts to get some of these numbers down pat, landing percentages, waning percentages, pregnancy percentages, et cetera. They can go on and on and on, but having some sort of measurement and growth rates is the other thing. And so having some benchmarking, like Deb's given us some good U-mortality benchmarking, some recent, there's a recent MLA webinar from aggregate consulting in New South Wales that did some benchmarking through the Southeast in Australia a year on year. And they had a couple of little good benchmarks in there for the top 20 producers, top 20% producers were most profitable, had 120% lambing and a growth rate over 270 grams per day for prime lamb fox. So not huge numbers, but it's a starting point to know whether you're hitting benchmarks or not. So I want to talk in scale and context. It's important not only for yourself, but also for me. So, you know, to get a good diagnosis or get information that's going to be valuable for the whole farm or the flock, it needs a bit of context. So one-offs or one-offs, you know, so kill to win in the flag in 66, that looks like it's going to be a one-off.  So we start to look at some patterns. So like our friend over here said, you know, if he finds five dead sheep in the same paddock, you know, that's a bit more meaningful because there's some context around that. If someone rings me up and says, I've got, I lost one U out of a thousand in the middle of January, there's a little bit less context to that. Probably doesn't mean quite so much. So patterns are, you know, the class of stock. So who's dying? Is it U's that are on the point of lamb? Is it weaners? Is it dry animals? What time of year is it happening? What paddocks are happening in? So if all these things are repeating or there's something common about the mortalities or the disease that's happening in, puts a bit more context around it. And so, you know, the difference between one U out of a thousand dying in January when, you know, they're dry and they're just ticking along versus five U's in a paddock, two eggs out from lambing, much different ramifications. And then we come to the concept of, I suppose, a coincidence. So who knows what a coincidence is or thinks they know? So coincidence is just a random event happening. So if we look around the room, everyone's rolled up here today in a pair of boots probably. A lot of people. A pair of moleskins. Probably a lot of moleskins to drop shirts. Is that coincidence? So we've all sort of dressed pretty similarly? Not really. Like, we're all here for the same reason. We've all got shared interests. We're all in the same industry. If two people had rocked up today in a tie-died T-shirt, that would be a coincidence. It would be pretty unusual. So don't think... Don't just put things off to coincidence. Don't say I had five U's dying the same paddock, two eggs from lambing. That's not a coincidence.  So how to intervene? So I guess there's private vets, obviously. We can do postmortems, disease investigations, blood tests, whatever that is. Obviously, it's not always postmortems. If it's production losses, we can try and work out why your conception rates weren't so good or growth rates weren't so good. There's pairs of vets. I think they're probably a little bit underutilised. So we do a lot of this stuff because there's a lot of us down in the southeast, but where the vets are a bit more scarce up in these sorts of areas, I know Jeremy in here at Murray Bridge is pretty active and pretty good, so definitely utilise the pairs of guys. And there's definitely a lot of subsidies for investigating diseases, so they will pay for lab fees. There's situations where if we submit brains, they will pay for vets' time and direct rebates as well. So there is assistance out there. And I guess if you haven't got access to vets close by or consultants, start to think about doing it remotely. So as Deb sort of mentioned, if we're starting to get some measurements and it's going to take a bit of data analysis, but if you're getting some measurements, then you can sit down and either remotely or make a special trip to the farm or wherever it is, and we can sit down and start to unscramble the egg. I've got 10% U-mortality right over where is it. Let's sort of start to try and pull this apart a bit. So if you haven't got those services at your back doorstep, you can get around it. And these words keep coming up, so measuring, recording and reviewing. So that's what it keeps coming up, whether it's diseases or whether it's nutrition or a whole farm sort of performance. It's still the same concepts. So what's going to go into a preventative plan? And we might do this really formally or we might just do it on the fly and these questions go through my head pretty quickly sometimes. But first of all, we've got to identify the disease risk to the business. And that can be broken down into, say, the risk to the animal.  But then there's also the financial risk to the business. So I think the classic one would be lice to a wool grower. So if Chad here gets lice in his wool that he cherishes so much, not only is it going to break his heart, but it's going to have a big financial burden on him. And so working out for different diseases, what's going to be the financial impact, financial impact if that disease really takes a hold in the flock or the herd. And then we would identify the cause of the problem. So that's where we start to look at patterns. You know, who's affected, where are they affected? Is it, you know, is our immortality mainly comprised of perinatal loss? So is it used around lambing? Well, let's do some focus on that and that might just be nutritional changes but it's still part of the whole process. And if the specific pathogens, you know, we look at actual, you know, which virus or bacteria or whatever it is that's causing it. We're going to do a bit of cost benefit. So will the spend relate to the profit?  And I sort of think of these not necessarily on return of investment but more sort of like along a partial budget line where, you know, if I do something that's different to what I would have otherwise done, how much is that going to pay, you know, how much is that going to get me? Not necessarily if I spend five grand on a vaccine. Is it going to give me, you know, seven grand return? And a lot of the cost on prevention is a bit of insurance and goes for an example at the end to sort of show but it does give a bit of peace of mind to people and sometimes it's just insurance that they do get out of it. So we've got to continually review it. So some of these cost-benefit equations do change with commodity prices. And the last bit of the preventive plan is going to be, you know, what vaccination changes do we do or what management changes do we do but we've still got to bear in mind the practicalities of these. So is it practical to do an extra yarding for an extra vaccination or make sure they're targeted so that we're doing the right class of stock in terms of vaccination or management change? So here's a bit of an example of a disease outbreak and what we did about it. So this client had, it happened two years in a row for them. So they had deaths of wiener cattle in a bit of time after weaning. There was a lot of factors that went into it as there often is. There was a bit of nutritional problems. There was the stress around wiening. There was these couple of viruses involved, so Pestivirus and IBR, which is a respiratory virus. Essentially what was happening though was that they were dying and so they had, you know, significant mortalities. So this happened two years in a row. So like I said, the costs were in mortalities. We ended up doing the same thing, a blanket antibiotic treatment. So there was some costs in antibiotics and there was some probably reduced growth rates. So I guess what did we do to sort of prevent this from happening? So we identified the risks. So we worked out that, you know, it's obvious the wieners were the ones affected, but it was high mortality. It wasn't just a bit of reduced growth rate. They were dying. So what was the financial loss? Well, they lost years for sale. So they lost revenue at some reduced growth rates. What were the causes? So it was multifactorial. They often are. So we, you know, there was nutritional stress. There's the association of stress around weaning and then with the specific viruses that were respiratory virus and this immune suppressor virus of Pestee. And these are all things that we can do something about. So like Nathan said, you know, it's about trying to control what you can control. So with, you know, that we worked out what are we going to do to change this? So we implemented a vaccination management changes. So we targeted to the wieners specifically, vaccinations specific to those viruses that were involved. And we know there's vaccines available for them, so we could use them. But it might, it meant that it means that this producer every year runs all these cattle through two weeks before weaning to vaccinate those wieners or those animals pre-weaning so that they're covered while it's on the get to weaning. And we also looked at some winter nutrition. So this is really important is to get these management and these vaccination timings right because we've identified that the wieners are affected and they need to be covered with those vaccines before they hit the weaning yards. What was the cost benefit to this? So like we said, the big loss was in mortalities. I think roughly the, might have been the second year it happened. I think he quoted about 40 grand's worth of stock that he lost. Just last year, I think the vaccination alone, the vaccination bill for doing that program was about 25 grand. So he could make that pay. Was that outbreak and that disease going to happen every year, year in, year out? I don't know. Might not. Probably not. But he didn't really want to go through all that again. He didn't want to risk it. He saw that as a risk to his business. And so there is a sense of insurance and going down that pathway. So if we go back to our examples at the start, could they have been prevented? Well, the answer is yes. So the worm case, you know, they could have had a bit better strategic drenching. They could have done a bit better monitoring. They've done some fecal egg counts. And they could make sure they're using some effective drenches that they know are going to work. In the pneumonia case, the answer is yes again. It could have been prevented. But if we'd have sat down before we'd traded all those animals, we could have said, well, the risk is pneumonia. We've got lots of animals coming from different sources, high stress. And we can do a vaccination on induction for all those animals before they hit the main mob. So how are we going to prevent these problems? So engage someone like myself or a consultant or an animal health officer and get an animal health plan going. Have some attention to detail. Have monitoring.  Don't be reactive. Try and be proactive. And don't make excuses.  Do something about it. And yeah, so the pathway to success, the easy roads, you know, it's easy because for a reason, the hard road will give you a bit better reward.  So, yeah, don't be afraid of the hard road. I just sort of highlight a couple of key resources that are under development at the moment, sort of tacking onto Sean's talk. We currently have a risk calendar which is under development which will be available via our website. Things to be aware of at different times of the year and how to put your preventative procedures in place for management. That will be an interactive calendar that can be accessed through the PERSA website. We're also in the process of doing a reprint of the Sheep Disease Guide, which some of you may be aware of, really popular document. And we are in the process of developing a cattle disease guide. So, if you're interested in any of those resources, I've just popped a piece of paper up the back there. Please leave your details and we'll get onto you when they're available.


Hi everyone, Joe for jasmiescasebreaks.com. Happy Monday coming at you with the 2023 hip-rate football autographed limited edition series 48, a dual case break 20 boxes. We've got one here. We've got one right over here. Everyone gets a spot. A lot of nice stuff in here. Big thanks to this group for making it happen. Thanks to the people who bought their spots straight up. We were even able to cancel a filler. Congrats to the people who won spots from the filler. All 32 teams are in. No combos. Let's do it. Let's roll it. Let's randomize names and teams. One and a two. Three times each. Easy. One, two and three. After three we've got Aaron, Dan and Damien. And then one and a two, three times for the teams. One, two and three. After three we've got the Bolts down to the Jets. All right trade window open. Aaron with the Chargers. Zach with the Vikings. Josh with the Bills. Aaron with the Bears. Eric with the Packers. Jalen with the Saints. Michael with the Broncos. Zach with the Giants. Christopher with the Buccaneers. Christy, you got my Raiders. Matt with the Dolphins. Christopher with the Lions. Jalen with the Steelers. Jared with the Cardinals. Josh with the Seahawks. Matt with the Niners. Josh with the Panthers. Eric with the Patriots. Matt, Last Bot Mojo with the Falcons. Eugene with the Ravens. Mark with the Jax. Jared with the Chiefs. Matt with the Cowboys. Jared with the Commander. Zach with the Titans and Eagles. Jason with the Browns. Christopher with the Texans. Alan with the Rams. Zach with the Colts and Damien with the New York Jets. It's alphabetized by a team. And again the trade window is open. We're going to pause the video just for a little bit when we come back. We'll see if there's any trades. And then we'll have the break itself. We'll see you on the other side. Alright, welcome back ladies and gentlemen. Trade window closed. Here's the final printout, the final list. 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But Zach Sullivan, you'll still get this nice AJ Brown, Jersey and autograph. Falcon from limited football. Rookie, Jersey and autograph. Desmond Ritter. Six out of 29. RPA going to Matt and the Falcons. Last Bot Mojo strikes again. 70% of the time Last Bot Mojo hits 100% of the time. That's what they say around these parts. Around Jaspies. I think that only applies to case breaks, right? It feels like a single filler pack or something. That's a little more. I think the odds are different there. All right. Next one is Breece Hall. Nice. Rookie, Jersey, autograph from select football. 5 out of 30. Nice low number there too. Out of 30. That's going to go to Damien and the Jets. We have here Bowman University. It's Jordan Addison and his USC gear. Very nice. 438 out of 4 at 99. I like seeing these Bowman first autographs. That's really nice. It's Zach Sullivan with the Minnesota Vikings. All right. Another box. We have a Christian McCaffrey back to the future autograph. 75 out of 99. Carolina Josh with the spot that he won in the filler gets the CMC Panthers edition. Now I'm looking for some Rams. Got a few boxes and a whole other case right here. And we've got more in the store. JaspiesCaseBreaks.com. Football and baseball. Check it out. Another bird team. DK Metcalf, rookie auto. 3 out of 50. That is Josh and the Seahawks. Bill's almost turned it over again. I don't think that's the interception though. Graded card. Now in the limited edition, we can't expect too many of these but it's always nice when we do have one. This is a 910 from Origins Deck Prescott Gold, Inc. autograph 15 out of 25. From 2016. Rookie autograph. Nice. Centering a 9-5. Surface a 9-5. Edges and corners are a 9. Autograph is a 10. Wow. That will be for Matt. Won the Cowboys or got randomized the Cowboys with a spot that he won in the filler. Nice. Big game for him last week. Putting up big numbers against the Giants. I like this one. First impressions autograph. Josh Jacobs. Rookie patching on. Nice RPA. 1 out of 75. He got three colors here. He got the silver. He got the black. He got a little white there. Who's got my raider? Christie's got my raiders. There you go. Josh Jacobs under the new coaching resume. Starting to starting to heat up a little bit. Another 10 boxes. Another empty box. Good luck. Another 10 boxes. Good luck everybody. We have Jim. 6 out of 25. Jason K. There you go. Jason. Nice. From an upper deck set. We have Aiden Hutchinson Rookie autograph. Right on the card too. 20 out of 22. Very nice. Great player. It's going to Christopher and the Detroit Lions. I think I saw another rookie autograph. It is Drake London Rookie Auto. It's another one. Another falcon from Matt. 13 out of 175. Dual relic and auto. Next up is another deck press guy. Mystic Marks. 2 out of 25. That's from a 2020 set. Plates and patches. Dallas. Matt. Next up is rookie signs. That's Zach Wilson. Rookie autograph. 15 out of 15. Jets. It's for Damian. Oh that's intercepted. Off the hands of Gabe Davis. Those are the worst. You tip off the hands into the hands of the opposing player. Next up is a packer. Aaron Jones. Prism autograph. Green Bay. Air clicks. 4 boxes to go. Fingers crossed everybody. Good luck. Let's try to get some hits for the hit list. We got a dolphin. Jalen Waddle. Rookie Auto. From XR football. 9 out of 99. That's going to go to Matt with the dolphins. This is landscape mode. It's a rookie ticket autograph. It is Kenneth Walker the third. Seattle. Josh. I wonder how much pressure Kenneth Walker the third has to name his son Kenneth Walker. If you're already a Roman numeral, you've got to keep that going right. We've got a Debo Samuel Mosaic autograph. That is 49 out of 99. Niners. Matt with the Niners. Final box. Good luck everybody. Appreciate everybody getting in. We've got more Hit Parade in the store. Jaspyscasefrakes.com. We can do another dual case football. There's also Hit Parade baseball on the site if you want to run that as well. We can get all that done tonight. Final one is passing the torch autograph. 20 out of 99. Jim Kelly. Buffalo! That's going to be for Josh and the Buffalo Bills. Nice. There you go. That's that ladies and gentlemen. Jalen, appreciate you trying. We'll get him next time. In fact, there is a next time. We've got another dual case breakup. Another 20 hits. Another nice stuff ladies and gentlemen. So check it out. Jaspyscasefrakes.com. I'm Joe. I'll see you next time for the next break. Bye bye.


In this presentation we will take a look at multiple choice questions related to special journals. First question. Borrowed money from a bank what journal is used? A. Cash Disbursements Journal. B. Sales Journal. C. Cash Receipts Journal. D. Purchases Journal or E. The General Journal. So let's read that through one more time then we'll cross them out using the process of elimination. Borrowed money from a bank what journal is used? A. Cash Disbursements Journal. That would be used if we were dispersing the cash but if we borrowed money we would be getting cash typically so it's not going to be the disbursement we're probably receiving money in this transaction. B. Sales Journal. Now the borrowing of money does result in us getting money but the money is not a result of sales. Sales is going to be revenue if we sold something so it's not going to be the sales journal. C. Cash Receipts Journal. Typically if we borrowed money you would think that we got cash for borrowing it so I'm going to keep that for now. D. Purchases Journal. If we borrowed money we may have borrowed it to purchase something but we haven't purchased it yet we only have the resources now to do so so I don't think it's going to be the purchases journal. E. General Journal. The General Journal will be the default if we can't fit it anywhere else so let's read it through one more time we're left with C and E. Cash Receipts Journal and the General Journal. Borrowed money from a bank what journal is used? C. Cash Receipts Journal. E. General Journal. Now again the General Journal is the default and I think this will typically fall into the cash receipts journal if we receive cash for the borrowed funds. If we borrowed money in order to buy equipment or something like that then it might not fit in any of these and we'd have to go to the General Journal but I'm assuming that we got cash when we borrowed and therefore C would be the correct answer. Once one more time we'll read through it and question and answer. Borrowed money from a bank what journal is used? C. Cash Receipts Journal. Next question. Makes cash sale what journal is used? A. Cash Disbursements Journal. B. Sales Journal. C. Cash Receipts Journal. D. Purchases Journal or E. The General Journal. So let's read through it one more time see if anything we can cross some of these out using the process of elimination. Makes cash sale what journal is used? A. Cash Disbursements Journal. That would mean that we are spending cash and if we made a sale you would think that we would be receiving cash so I don't think it's going to be A. B. Says the Sales Journal and it does look like we made a sale so I'll keep that one for now. C. Says Cash Receipts Journal and it does look like we sold something for cash and got money so it does seem like we received cash I'll keep that for now. Purchases Journal. We didn't purchase anything we're the one selling it someone purchased from us so I don't think that's it. E. Says the General Journal and that's going to be the default journal if it doesn't fit anywhere else and we have two contenders right now B and C. Sales Journal to Cash Receipts Journal so I don't think it's going to be the General Journal because I think we'll be able to put it somewhere. So once again we'll read through it we're left with B and C. Sales Journal Cash Receipts Journal let's read through it makes cash sale what journal is used the sales journal or the cash receipts journal now this is where a lot of people get mixed up because we made a sale and you would think the name of the sales journal would say that would go to the sales journal because we made a sale but it doesn't go to the sales journal because the sales journal really means sales on account accounts receivable must be involved in order for it to be long in the sales journal in this case we got cash and that's the definition of the cash receipts journal so it's not going to be the sales journal because AR accounts receivable is not affected cash is affected any or is used the cash receipts journal is used anytime we get cash receipts even if it's for a sale and we have a sales journal so it's going to be in the cash receipts journal so that's the got to remember that one and so one more time question and answer makes sale makes cash sale what journal is used see cash receipts journal next question makes payments on a note what journal is used a cash disbursements journal be sales journal see cash receipts journal d purchases journal or e the general journal once again we mix payments on a note what journal is used a cash disbursements journal well that would be used when we disperse cash and it looks like we did here we made a payment on a note so I'm going to keep that for now b says the sales journal and we didn't sell anything we're paying off a loan that we took out so it doesn't look like it should be in sales see says the cash receipts journal now we got money in the past when we took out the loan but now we're paying back the loan so the cash is going down not up so no receipts d says the purchases journal we're not purchasing anything here and we're just paying back the loan that we took out in the past we may have taken the loan out to purchase something in the past but now we're just paying it out and e says the general journal we would only use that as a default if we can't fit this anywhere else I'll keep that for now let's read it through one more time we're left with a and e cash disbursements journal and the general journal so we says makes payment on a note what journal is used cash disbursements journal or the general journal because I think we paid cash out I think it can go into the cash disbursements journal and therefore we don't need the general journal which is going to be the default when we use these special type journals so I believe the answer then will be a once again question answer makes payments on a note what journal is used a cash disbursements journal


Hi, it's Nicole from the Bellevue College Library, and I'm here to show you how to access canopy videos through our partnership with King County Library, KCLS. I'll start on the library website, and on the left menu, there's a link for accessing KCLS resources. This provides information on our partnership and how to log in. You have access to their online library, so I'm going to click on that link. You can search in different ways, but since I'm looking for films, I'm going to select the link for movies and TV. Scroll a bit to find canopy, and once you click on that link, you'll need to log in. If you've never used KCLS resources because of our partnership, click on add library card. There is also a login screen, but that's after you have created an account. For our partnership, your library card number is BVC, followed by your CTC link number. So in this example, BVC, and then the CTC link number 202555590. Your PIN is simply the last four digits of your CTC link number. In this example, 5590, click continue. You will need to create an account with your name, email, and password. Click sign up. Now it will want you to verify your email, but you don't have to do that right away. Once you get to canopy, you can go to the search at the top and type in the title that you're looking for. I'm looking for Miranda and police interrogation. Now it's found five films. The first one is the one I'm looking for, and then it's other films that are related. Click on the red bar and then click on play. And you can watch this movie. Thank you. If you have any technical difficulties or have any other questions, we'd be happy to answer them. Please email us at reference at BellevueCollege.edu. Thanks.


Hey guys, what's up? My name is Sinali for today's video I let my Instagram followers control my entire day You guys help me get ready pick what food I should eat and what I should do for the whole day Honestly, this day was probably one of my favorite summer days that I've had so far Leave me a comment down below telling me your favorite activity to do over the summer So let's get started. So I took a shower earlier this morning And I need to get my hair dry and that takes forever and I don't have a blow dryer So we're just gonna wait for that But while we wait, I decided to do a face mask So how do you guys choose from all my Peter Thomas Roth masks? So I bought all of these masks during Christmas when they have like all those really nice gift sets for super cheap So I'm not sure how much all these were but I thought I would give them a try because I've never tried anything from Peter Thomas Roth Personally, I am gonna go ahead and tell you that the pumpkin is my all-time favorite It is so good, and I actually feel it working the black one Like I guess it feels like it's working and then the blue one like hydrates really well the gold one I think I've only tried like maybe two or three times And I don't really love it because I don't feel it working But good thing questions on Instagram are a thing right now because I couldn't do polls for this one since I have Too many options so majority of you guys picked the gold one and honestly if somebody else asks this question I'd probably pick the gold one too just because it looks like super fancy and bougie But like I don't know the other ones are so much better, but since you guys control my day I guess I'm gonna have to go for this one So guys the mask is on while it's sitting on my face I think I'm gonna go work a little bit I have a video to post today, and it's a very important and very requested video So I'm pumped to put it up, but I have a lot of work to do before I put it up So I just hit the export button on my video, which I'm super hyped about But now it is time to take off this mask and I personally find it so hard to get these masks off without the applicator Because the applicator has like a little like scraper So I'm just gonna use this paper towel to get most of it off, and then I'm just gonna go in and Wash my face. So the mask is off. I'm just patting my face dry So we're on to the next poll I asked you guys if you wanted to see me do glam or natural makeup right when I posted it I actually had four people answer right away, and it was split so I actually don't know how this one's gonna go I feel like people are gonna pick glam Honestly, there's like not much of a difference between my glam and natural like it's all in the eye shadow really If I did glam I'd probably do like a more Glittery look and then like if I did natural it just probably be all not So yeah, it's really not much of a difference So you guys chose the Jacqueline Hill Palette So I'm just gonna take some of these really pretty warm mattes in the middle, and I'm just gonna blend them all together So this is the complete look. This is my natural everyday makeup. Next we have to decide what to do with my hair So I asked you guys Curly or straight so right now 61% says that I should curl my hair I was really hoping they would say straight just because I just washed it and like when I curl my hair when I Just washed it it does not hold up very well, but let's not waste any more time and let's go curl my hair So unfortunately my hair is still wet from this morning like this is how long my hair takes to dry It's very inconvenient, but I thought we would go ahead and make breakfast you guys decided I should have avocado toast, and I'm really pumped because I've been wanting to share like my secret recipe with you guys I don't have all my ingredients here But I am gonna make it work. So let's go. So obviously we need the toast All right guys pray with me. Hopefully this is a good avocado. Oh my god Next I put a little bit of garlic powder on it. I honestly recommend garlic salt, but we're just gonna put salt later So just sprinkle a little bit on this on it Then we're gonna do some salt Then just like mush it up a little bit more To mix everything in and then my favorite part is putting these chili flakes I usually use just already mashed up chili flakes But today we're just gonna mash up our own So then just sprinkle it on top like so Time for a taste test. So my hair is all done. It is curled and now I'm asking you guys what outfit I should wear. So this is one of the options It's actually like very conservative for me, but then I also have this dress as an option So like every other poll I'm just gonna wait 10 minutes and see what y'all want me to wear So I had to run out of the house really fast because I'm dropping my dad somewhere And then I'm gonna pick up Ryan But I kind of guessed which one you guys would pick and it's really really close But you guys did choose dress number two. So that is the one I'm going to be wearing today I actually did bring some other outfits just because me and Ryan are gonna have like a little Atlanta day and Always like to switch up my outfits, especially if we're doing something more athletic I'm probably not gonna want to wear a dress.  He's ready to drive They voted you. Oh my god Thank you guys so much for voting for Ryan to drive because like I hate driving so much and I just didn't want to drive Especially because we're hitting prime traffic hours You guys are deciding whether we should get a drink from Starbucks or Chick-fil-A. I couldn't really think of anything other than Starbucks, so I just put Chick-fil-A like I really want Starbucks kind of and Currently Starbucks is winning 67% It's been six minutes, but I think we should just drive there because I'm pretty sure it's gonna win So we're just like a couple minutes away, and then we'll get on our way to Atlanta Ryan wants to do a poll on my Instagram What's it gonna be? Marseille or my Apple Watch Let's ask you guys on my Insta So we got our Starbucks. I got a iced white chocolate mocha with salted cream foam I got an iced coffee Which watch do you think my followers chose? Leave the Apple Watch. Yeah, you're right. Yeah Guys we made it to the optimist it's really cute out here. We could do some putt putt. Look at that I've actually been here before with my parents pretty long time ago though and had no idea So they had a oyster section So on Wednesdays they have $1 oysters to place the ones that are kind of marked here We've never seen this many options for oysters like we didn't really know there was a difference But it does make sense because like when I see the small ones and then compared to the big ones I'm like what? You know what I mean? It's just like a lot of Things that we didn't even like know about but we got the baker's dozen.  Yeah, and yeah, we're really pumped. We love oysters So when I was in the bathroom, I literally just like pulled up my dress I literally didn't even touch the zipper, but it popped and it's not even like tight on me or anything So I know this is an Instagram followers She's my day, but I'm pretty sure fate wanted me to wear this dress So good thing I brought back up outfits because I've been really pissed that literally would have ruined my day If my dress was just like all open in the back But now we are gonna go to Oku to get some sushi rolls. We're happy our hopping So we're gonna get some sushi rolls because they're half off on Wednesdays Wednesdays is just a good day in Atlanta Way to Ponson market because we really want to just like walk on the belt line But my friend Jill told me about this app called bird or lime I think they're two different companies, but do the same thing So basically it's like a scooter service And you just like scan the QR code of like the scooter So they're spread out all over the city Because they have like little trackers in them and then you can see where it is and go pick it up We're really hoping to do it on the belt line because that would just be so fun If you guys have heard of it comment down below Especially if you tried them and let me know of your experience So we found our first bird, but there's not two of them on a hunt for these bird bites It says it's in front of Paris on Pots So you're gonna see where they got dropped. So we found our birds and people just got on them. I'm so sad So we found one bird and I'm just gonna unlock it. I have to enter my credit card I have a chapel food mine. Yeah, I can take a picture of my credit card. Wow, technology these days Unlocking please wait. I'm really scared. I'm really scared. You got this. I don't even remember the last time I was riding a scooter This is like motorized too, so that kind of freaks me out. Is it unlocked? Okay, ride started. Let's go What's it working? No, what are you doing? This is a lot trade to start it you go in. Yeah, you thought I would like wait down, right? Push it down. Do I push it like do I hold it down? Yeah. Oh, I hold it down while you're riding. Yeah.  Let's go find another one most fun thing ever like I want to do this every day I really wish I lived here so I could do it like segway around Chicago I know and I've never tried to segue I've always wanted to but I guess this comes close guys my bird literally died on me Like really really far from the entrance kind of hikey-piss Ryan still has his though Ryan to the rescue. Thank you Much fun on those birds like they were amazing definitely recommend. I got sweaty from having fun Should have worn my apple watch did it burn any calories? Yeah, I put this on in the car but they put it on me.  I'll see y'all in my next video. Bye guys


Hi everyone! Welcome to this panel of talks about design patterns in hackerspaces. First of all, the language. We have Mitch Oldman here, who is OK for you if you do it in English. Very good, so welcome to this panel on the topic of design patterns in hackerspaces. First, I would like to do a small show of hands. Who here is a member in hackerspace? Or a fablab or something like that. Don't have to narrow it down that much. OK, and who has kind of more of a leading role or something in a hackerspace? Like implementing design patterns? OK, that's slightly less. As I take it, Tony asked a lot of you guys to come and share some stuff, so might please the people in a leading role of a hack center come to the first row, if that's OK for you? Yeah, perfect guys, thanks. Just so that my friend Stephen here, who is going to be running around with a microphone, doesn't have too far to run. So we could have made this talk be like a really frontal thing, with having Mitch here and having Tony here, both with their decading experience, getting into decades of experience in One Noise Bridge and Oden-Vilo Sense, being hackerspaces where they are carrying or acting out a leading role. But we thought it might be better for everyone or more interesting if we could keep this more like a talk between peers, where people could talk about their issues they have in their hackers centers and what design patterns might help solving these issues. So first I would like to ask, are there any things like you have experienced in your own hackers center where you would like to ask someone else how they solved it, or just like that, so we could establish what are the things that you're curious about, what you want to know about, and then we could go through them one by one. Anybody? Oh, and wait, just before you ask your question, there's one thing I have to tell everyone. This is all being filmed, if that's OK with you, and it might be publicized, so if you don't want to be on camera with your face, you can just talk through the microphone and your off-voice on video, and if you want to present yourself, you can also come here on the stage. OK, so my question is about how do you solve the same things that trip you up when you flat-share? Like who takes out the trash or who has to wash the dishes if basically the person who is responsible for making a mess doesn't clean it up, and in a hacker space because there's a lot of people, it's harder to find out who it was, so yeah. OK, that's a good question, so let's just summarize that as like all the little things and housekeeping or something like that. Good question. Go ahead. I have a question. How do you handle like membership fees and sponsoring? So do other hackers try to cover all the costs of the room by membership fees to make it self-financed, no matter how high they're going to be, or do you try to keep the fees very low by accepting sponsorship and if you do, who do you accept? OK, so let's call that like financing, yeah, basically financing and funding. Anybody else? Are these the only two questions? I guess. Yeah, so yeah. Oh, you have another one? Yes. As a hacker space, a lot of people are kind of sensitive to using social networks like Facebook, for example, and so how do you advertise your hacker space in a, let's say, privacy-friendly way, because a lot of the options that everybody else has aren't really an option for an hacker space, I think. So like social media with privacy-friendly social media. OK, as we only have these three questions, why don't we just go through them and we'll see if someone else or something else comes up. OK, so first question about the little things and housekeeping. I see Tony wants to give the mic to Mitch. I guess that's because there's a certain rule set on design patterns for hacker spaces or something. So like everything we'll be talking about today, there's no right way to do anything. There's definitely wrong ways, but the wrong way is what doesn't work for you and your community. So this question about how to take care of all the little things, because the little things are what really freak people out in a community, whether it's flatmates or a hacker space. If people don't take responsibility for what they do, that leads to tension. No matter what, community is hard work.  And there's times when it's really difficult. One of the things that can make things difficult is if some people feel that they're doing more than everyone else. Some people seem to go out of their way so that they're always doing more than everybody else. And that can be problematic behavior as well. But the whole idea of design patterns, it's not rules, it's patterns. What has worked and what hasn't worked so well for all of us in our experience? And then we can share those. And just because it works well, what we've done at Noisebridge works well for us, doesn't mean that it will work well for you and all of your spaces. But we can share those experiences, we can learn from each other. And Hacker Spaces, as they've been popping up around the world, we've always been helping each other which is why we continue to grow exponentially around the world. So with that kind of background, Noisebridge, I can share an experience with Noisebridge. All Hacker Spaces are unique because they're started by unique individuals and they have unique characters in different parts of the world. Noisebridge is unique in that we are a bunch of anarchists, explicitly anarchists. We have no leaders. We only have one rule and that's be excellent to each other. It came from a bad Hollywood movie but it works for us. And we really do have no leaders but positions of leadership do form and Anarchy as we see it is people self-organizing to make cool things happen. So if anything is going to happen at Noisebridge, it happens because people self-organize to make that happen and around the world Hacker Spaces all have some form of that called doocracy. Things happen because people do it. Not because people are the best at it, that's meritocracy if that works and not because people vote on it, democracy, but doocracy. You do it if you think that no one will object and you can get the help you need by other people if you need help to do it. And if you like it, you can do it more. If other people like it, they'll encourage you to do it more and you can get other people to help and everyone gets good at it then. How do you get good at keeping a communal space tidy and organized and clean? But what does that mean?    If you've got a kind of community where everyone is totally type A anal and wants everything totally in its right 1K resistor drawer and the players go here with an outline around it and the screwdrivers are all in order and you definitely don't want to fill up over here because that's for the flat heads. If everyone's like that, it all works. But it's rarely that way. There's usually slobs mixed with control freaks. So we have to work it out. At Noisebridge, what we've found is people gravitate to an area, whether it's electronics or the sewing and crafting area or the biology area, whatever. We have all these different areas. People gravitate towards that and some people are always taking a sense of propriety of those and are the people who rise to a position of leadership to make sure things are as tidy as people want. And as long as they're respected by the people in that area they keep being the point person for that. We get a free light show. I was late because I put up my tent right before running here. But other hackerspaces, someone volunteers for a position and they hold that position for a period of time. Some hackerspaces, they're voted into it. So what have you tried for your community? What's worked and what hasn't worked? I'm from the CCC SED-H Zurich and I think at the moment it's for the large part basically the cleaning tasks are done in a sense by volunteers. So I think it's just a natural thing that some people kind of have more of a sense of ownership over the space and I don't mean that in a negative way and then those are the ones that have then a stronger drive to keep it tidy and so there are certain people that just clean up more because it's more important to them that the hackerspace is tidy. But at the same time also a kind of fatigue sets if those people have to keep cleaning up after others and I feel the tension building in my hackerspace a little bit and that's why I want to find a way to kind of diffuse the situation. But I don't think it's really, let's say, institutionalized in a way that it's assigned who does what in terms of cleanup jobs or even just kind of that it's clear who we have to show appreciation to for the clean space.  I mean I feel I know like the three or four people who are the ones who do most of the cleanup but I don't know if that's clear to anyone that it doesn't just happen to be tidy magically. And we do have a dishwasher now so one of the big cleanup jobs is kind of taken care of. I don't know what to say. So you brought up some people are doing basically three people are doing all the tying so those people start getting maybe burned out resentful for the other people who aren't and they're feeling like they're doing more work than other people and that's not a sustainable situation. So what are the other people doing that they're doing more of than the people are doing tidying up because while they're tidying up they don't have enough time to do all the other things that those other people are doing and what happens when someone feels there's something not working for them. Do you have conflict resolution means for conflict resolution in your community? Is it just ad hoc someone just can't stand anymore and then they scream and yell at each other and then you have to apologize. I mean that's one way to do it. What happens when someone is feeling frustrated? Is there a way for them to address that? At Noisebridge we have if someone feels like it can be of use they put a sign up like the magic fairy does not come here and tidy up after your mess. Please do that yourself. Something like that. I mean if there is one or more persons in a room there will be conflict. You deal with that when it happens. So all of us have been in community. What do you all do when there's a conflict or better yet what do you do when you feel like you're frustrated that you can deal with that situation before a conflict arises and there's all sorts of ways to do that. So what you can do is get everyone together and have a public shaming ritual against that person. In my experience and unfortunately I've been in a community where that happens it doesn't work too well. I don't think that works too well in anyone. You can have a public pillory. Is that English word? It's where you chain someone to the middle of a town square so they can't leave and everyone knows that they're the bad person. That doesn't seem to work too well either. But what works well for one community again might work not so well in another and what works not so well here might work great there. So what can you do for conflict resolution? What can you do to alleviate frustration before it becomes problematic? So I'm Michael, hello. I'm from Luxerio. We are placed in Lucerne and we also had this problem with the cleaning up. So we are using the rooms from a school and we got the feedback that there is a lot of mess after we meet each other in this room. And we started to say to each other I clean up your mess that you produced before you leave the rooms and this just didn't work because everyone did clean his place up but there is always some dirt around you and this wasn't cleaned up and we still got this bad feedback. And then we started to say if this doesn't work we still say everyone has cleaned his place but before the last person is leaving the room he makes a contract. And for us this started to work it seems to be clean but we still got this bad feedback and then we just started to use another room in the school and we still got the feedback the room wasn't cleaned up which we used before so it was just an accuse. I went to the teacher in the next morning on the day we didn't use the room and asked him was it okay this time and he accused us though there was a big mess it smelled from our food and these things and then asked him what do your students do in the morning do they eat breakfast or do they order pizza for breakfast and then he realized that he was still in the mood of accusing things and he was accusing your group for just something else and since then we had clean rooms and we didn't get any bad feedback okay so let me just continue on so all communities have people in them and people all have issues and sometimes people get angry sometimes people are happy a whole bunch of people or two people are upset at each other at the same time it can be a mess what happens in your communities when people have conflict with each other what do you do do you have procedures to follow or do you just like let people work it out amongst themselves combinations what do people do in their communities when there's conflict I'm also from KS Compute Club Zurich as him and I can at least contrast two ways I tried to address it was the same issue about a mess after our weekly meetings we have that concept of a I don't know how to translate it really well which is at the same day under the same time as a normal group meeting which is announced I think five days in advance and which also has some ability to decide stuff and this can be announced by any member and it is kind of a way to get people together and maybe it will only last like half an hour and then the normal meeting will follow where people do their own stuff and it can be used to address anything that you think needs the attention of everyone at least for a short period and I think we're not doing it doing these kinds of meetings enough because at least for me when I see an issue something that I think where I feel kind of powerless about something that I'm not okay with I think at least for me it helps to at least have a way to tell people that I see this problem and most of the time this will even result in at least a part of a solution and this is like one way and I think we should do that more and the other way that I tried was trying to get the same information across but on a mailing list which we also have where every member is subscribed or even more people and where I think even more people read that mailing list that normally tend to such a meeting and there is from my experience absolutely no productive feedback if the initial message is if that kind of I'm not okay with that situation because I think it comes across as just accusing out into the blue and this is a contrast that I feel is very strong and I think it's very important to find the right channel to tell people what your view of the situation is Okay, you got one more appointment or go ahead? So we have a really large community at Noisebridge there's hundreds of people who come through every week and we started off with 54 members and it only grew from there so there were a bunch of interpersonal problems that would arise with a group that is that large we found that on an email list it just was people arguing like they were on the internet or something so let's see there is well let me we came up with a somewhat formal procedure so if there's like if you have a problem with me it's up to you to come to me and let me know because I might not know if you think that I do know and that you're afraid to approach me then we have our websites a wiki so there are a whole bunch of people who have volunteered as mediators and they put their name on the wiki and so you can go to someone who you think is cool and say can you talk to me and that Mitch guy he's a bummer for me now and so we can all get together or if you're feeling like it's really unsafe and you don't even want to be in the same room with me because I'm such a dick then the mediator can talk to you and then come and talk to me and then once that happens it's up to the mediator to see well well you know it seems like you're being totally up front but that Mitch guy he's really defensive and he's not really taking responsibility for his part in this so it's up to the mediator to go around and just discreetly just ask some people if there's anyone in the community they feel like is not really behaving excellently that's our one rule right so they and then they might even name a name if they feel it's safe to do so and then they're looking for a pattern and it's like wow you know you had this problem with that Mitch guy and this guy had a problem with the Mitch guy which is sort of similar and so did two other people now that's a pattern that I need to someone needs to tell me something's going on and my behavior needs to change and if it's something easy cleaning up after yourself that's probably pretty easy to resolve if it's something that's more of like a personal issue on my part well maybe I'll be able to change my behavior without being disruptive to the group and maybe not if I'm willing though and it's not so disruptive to the group then and I change my behavior then things proceed on the other hand there are people who come to noise bridge a large open community this happens who are sociopaths and they won't change their behavior even if they say they will and they seem to get a lot of juice out of a lot of negative attention those people we give them a few chances and if they don't change their behavior they get put on our what we call our 86 page because in the United States if a restaurant takes something off of its menu that's called 86 so we have an 86 page and if you ever want to see some totally bizarre human behavior you can read through our 86 page you got some examples there like you really write down what those people did or most of the people on there are because they're incredibly terrible like they go to noise bridge to hit on women so that's not excellent no not at all okay so flirting is totally part of human behavior and flirting is fine but if you go to noise bridge to flirt that's not really cool weird but you know someone stealing someone threatening violence yeah there's some bizarre things as well there's a famous episode of someone who claimed to be a Buddhist monk setting up a shrine that was written up on boing boing so anyways if you have a large community or even a small community sometimes you get some really interesting stories that you can tell people later yeah there was someone sleeping on top of the elevator so this is an aside now this is just an amusing anecdote but we've been around 10 years we're going to have in September a 10 year anniversary exhibition and ball so a ball is a dance so we're going to have a big dance with music and demos and talks and all these things what we're going to do also is have historical plaques where some of the more bizarre things that ever happened in noise bridge are commemorated so there will be a plaque saying it was thought it was on this spot in December of 2014 where we caught living on top of our elevator it was rumored that up to 5 people at once were sleeping in the structure that was formerly known as the DJ booth up to 5 people were sleeping here at any given time who weren't welcome at noise bridge so anyways we've got plenty of stories like that but an email list is definitely not a place to work out problems with emotional content so I'll just say that categorically there is one pattern from the original design patterns and those original design patterns if you haven't read them in the last couple of years I'd recommend going and revisiting them they're really good to re-read every year or two because there's a lot of fantastic information there for keeping a community running smoothly and not everything there applies to you and your community but it's worth reading anyways one of the design patterns though is have a meeting every week and we'd revisit that at noise bridge periodically because some people are like now we go over the same stupid things every Tuesday maybe we shouldn't do meetings anymore and we always end up having continuing the meeting just once a week for people to have everyone doesn't come just having that opportunity knowing it's a place where you can just come and say hey hi how's it going or you know there's a place where you can just say this place is a fucking mess can't people clean up after themselves maybe just a little better whatever having that opportunity and for people to introduce themselves who are new to the community and for people who are new to the community to see how the community runs itself but what we found at noise bridge is that the weekly meeting is not the place to work out interpersonal problems because then the meetings become a place that no one wants to go and the meetings just get derailed into personal stuff that really shouldn't be taking up everybody's time so if people have interpersonal stuff we have that formal process that I outlined earlier okay so thank you Mitch if I may summarize this topic like you had we had different solutions to this problem of housekeeping and keeping your thing tidy and which resulted very quickly in not just that topic it's more of a thing about how do you act upon like conflicts conflict resolution patterns inside of your hacker space and we heard that you at noise bridge do that through giving self-organization and giving people a sense of ownership also for their small realm and leadership and stuff like that let's go to the next point on our agenda that would be finance and how do you finance your hacker space do you do it as flat as possible and external financing or funding or do you do it all through the membership fees that was your question I don't remember the name sorry Danilo right I'm guessing you asked that out of a certain reason right the thing is that we're still a pretty small hacker space in the Opusville core dump right now we're 28 people and maybe 10 come by every week depends on the week and we used to have a very small room with just 16 square meters and we ran out of room and then we had to switch to a different room and we're looking for different options but it still comes down to around a thousand bucks per month costs that we have every month and do we need to cover these somehow and originally my approach was to try to cover as much as possible with membership fees because then we're not dependent on anyone else nobody can influence us etc but the thing is that then the prices get high enough that people think that they don't really want to become a member because it's too expensive and they don't come by as often as they do and then on the other hand if it's too cheap then you have to find a lot of external sponsorship and then also if you look for sponsors which is what we are doing right now then what kind of companies do you ask we ask the city which didn't work out which would have been pretty nice because then you're kind of independent but if that doesn't work out do you start asking like any company that would give you money or do you choose between companies with an approach or do you just look for local companies and these kind of questions would be interested in how other Hacker Spaces are doing this maybe one small remark since you said you asked the city maybe you can ask them for cheaper rent in a place that the city owns instead of asking for money directly so at least for example in Zurich I think about 30% of the properties are owned by corporations or the city so there's a lot of places that they could basically give you cheaper rent and in fact that's a situation for the at the moment now can I ask Tony something about this I mean as far as I know you organize these workshop things and stuff like that is that one way you hard finance your Hacker Space or could you tell us something about that maybe in the past we had a very low rent 50 francs per month and in the future we plan to do events yes where you get you collect money for people who want to come to the they have to pay entry fees and yes okay so those are going to be like workshops soldering and stuff like that yes all parties okay something I'm guessing land parties excellent yes we also try to start some projects that could give us some money so one of the approach was working on a project where we distribute water temperature sensors in the lake and then try to find a sponsor for every sensor with the idea that we have an app where the sponsor is listed next to the sensor with the goal to get some stable income and there were some like sponsorship possibilities or shops that sell maker stuff or stuff like that that we ask and they would have given us a one-time payment or something like that but that's not sustainable so maybe also projects where you can get some regular income would also be an option to reduce the fixed costs yeah we're still it's one of the typical projects that takes forever so right now we found someone that would actually pay for one of the sensors but they're not done yet but maybe that's also going to help some people and also actually this month we tried to start our first workshop and we tried to it was about cryptocurrencies for total newbies and we tried to advertise it in the local supermarket but we didn't get any signups so either it was too expensive or we didn't like yeah maybe we didn't put a good explanation next to it or maybe it was the wrong place so we're still experimenting any other people have different ways they've made money income from their space well I don't think it's the case at our space currently but one idea is also to sell beverages at a bit of a higher price than you buy them to try to make some money it's easier for a small space which doesn't have to deal with legal issues that this brings with it yeah I want to address the point of being independent of any company and I think that's a really important factor and in our hacker space we are in the lucky position that the rent in the house we are in is very low and I think we found a pretty good solution in that we keep the membership fees as low that we can cover at least the rent with those membership fees so if any sponsor would sponsor us anymore in the next year for example we would still be able to run the hacker space we wouldn't have all this cool stuff we are able to buy right now and to provide to our members but at least we have the space so in this case we are independent from sponsors as we won't go bankrupt if any sponsor leaves but we are still able to have a very nice income for so to say from sponsors which helps us out so we can keep our membership fees quite low this way I'm from two box bunzi from Markov as I talked before we are using rooms from this cool and there we have very small rents which we can pay with our membership fees so it's a kind of sponsorship from the school to us and there is a kind of dependency for us to them to their rules and let us say the political meaning of their stuff in charge but we are trying to hold this very low but even though there was mentioned to sell beverages to get some money and we exactly did this not with the idea to get money just to have a mate on our space and it was always might that someone was getting mate from a supermarket then we had a pot where people can throw in money and we told her how much it should put in and it worked very well at the beginning but more and more there was just less money to put in so then we we told the people maybe you forget to pay your amount then they go to the pot and put some extra money in and it seemed to work a little bit longer but at the moment we don't know that there is a leak of money we don't know if someone is stealing or something else happened we don't want to accuse anything at the moment anyone we just trying to find out what happened if someone maybe just put the money away to save it but be care with this idea it's fair use does not always work in the community maybe first to address the issue with sponsored locations or something like that that you get for cheaper in our case it might have been possible to get a location that we could use maybe once a week similar to a school but that wouldn't be an option for us because we want to have projects that you can keep and then it's not really something that you can do and in our city there is not enough I can imagine that it's easy in Zurich but that wasn't really an option for us then the thing that was mentioned about the drinks beverages is actually one of the best income ways for us at first we had very low price we just had one franc for any beverage and then we decided to increase the prices so right now it's 250 Swiss francs and if you go to a bar and buy a beer it's usually 5 to 6 so it's still much cheaper to go to the hackerspace to drink something than to go to a bar but it still gives us quite some income over the months because basically every night you're there you drink something and that worked really well for us and we also have a cash box where people just put in something but we have a price list because if you just say put in something then some people are not going to put in anything because they think it's kind of optional and others put in too much and that's not really a good situation so we just fixed the price and we didn't have any issues with the money getting lost or getting stolen so far or we didn't notice but there was still enough left and there was also there was some guy that always got the beverages and for example he decided to just buy them as a sponsoring which is also one way that like a member can say well I'm going to buy these things for my own money and for one beverage it's really not much so it's kind of a nice way to sponsor it without you actually noticing much because you just go to the supermarket buy some drinks and bring them to space Can I just interrupt you for one second I mean we have five more minutes and we still have one question out like do you guys want to stay on this topic or do you want to have a really crappy short version of the third question probably sorry you want to stay on this one also you're doing the next talk and you will be okay with like postponing a bit yes okay so then let's do like maybe 15 more minutes on the next question is that okay for you so let's just like shortly summarize this one we had different possibilities like getting a cheaper space through the city or something like non-financial funding through like organizations of the state and non-state financing yourself through selling beverages and yeah and some things that weren't mentioned like selling t-shirts this is the t-shirt for rev space and they made a bunch of money on that and at Noisebridge whenever we go below three months of operating expenses in the bank I was the first treasurer so I made sure that if we ever dip below three months of operating expenses people freak out and that's a good time to freak out rather than when you're going to not be able to pay rent right so whenever that happens we have a party sell more beverages well we have a you know all we need is a box saying welcome to Noisebridge suggested donation ten dollars and then a person sitting there smiling nope and that's all it takes and actually there's been studies if you have a person where the money is then people are much more likely to put in and also if you just have a picture of a person next to where yeah picture of eyes is all it takes not even just a person then people are much less likely to steal and they're much more likely to pay for the things if it's an honor system and it works it works really well nice okay so last question was like privacy friendly social media how do you advertise or market your hackers based for your community or your not yet community in a way that is more privacy friendly as Facebook or Twitter so that was originally your question like I guess you have done some research or have you tried anything that did not work out not really it just sort of popped into my mind just now so I guess one thing that wasn't intentional but has a really strong effect in Zurich was having the location at a reasonably central place which of course I mean just we happen to find this place for cheap and it's much closer to the center of the city and I think on the usual night we have like twice as many people as as say three years ago when we were more on the outskirts so I don't think I'm not sure if there really was any other significant change other than the location in what makes it attractive to come there so I guess that's a large part but of course is very expensive usually sure and we've heard the idea of advertisement in supermarkets I find that a really great idea even though I guess it didn't work yet for you but I think it's worth trying so the supermarket thing was mainly the workshop because we thought that there are a lot of people like in the local city that are interested in some technical topics but don't know anything about them and for example there's the Mikroklubschule that covers a lot of these topics but not all of them and we thought maybe some people are going to be interested but it was an experiment and I don't really know who actually reads those posts in the Mikro the other thing that I never do know the other thing that we did was we basically are alive because we're in a village with a university and that's also basically the reason why I lived there because I studied there in the past so we always try to get students to join we also have separate prices for students like for people without income and people with income and for people without income it's 10 bucks per month which is anybody should be able to pay that so what we did last year was we had a lightning talk session at the university where we presented different topics and projects we had and we expected maybe five people to show up and then there were I think 20 or 30 lecturers showed up and it didn't have any effect on memberships but a few people came by our hacker space so maybe if we do that a few times it could work and I could imagine that there are also other locations where you could have like I don't know a free talk or present some topic or something where you indirectly show that you have a lot of knowledge that people could learn from and where people might become interested to take a look at your space and this ties in with fundraising and publicity because they go together things that are really really popular at noise bridge and hacker space is all over the world are how to make your own website Arduino for total newbies that's super popular how to solder that we've been doing that every Monday at noise bridge for 10 years and there's always 10 is the minimum number of people that's considered really small sometimes there's up to 50 people lightning talks are super popular we do that once a month having some things that are really simple for total beginners be free is really helpful because it attracts a whole bunch of new people that later might come to the space and some of those might become paying members or donate something and another thing is popular is how to sew fix it cafes where people can bring things and you don't fix it for them but you show them people help each other in fixing things and how to fix things so things like that are really good to have for free so that it attracts people who will become paying members and putting posters up is a way to do it you know hacker spaces are averse to and should be things like Facebook because Facebook has some serious problems but there are other social media for getting the word out that aren't so bad like diaspora which is one that anyone can host on their own server of course there aren't 4 billion people on diaspora so these are all trade-offs how do you get the word out but yeah putting posters up I don't know in Zurich it might be too clean people don't like posters in anywhere except the supermarket but and everyone has their own probably has their own washing machine so there's not a laundromat in San Francisco putting them up all over town on posts and laundromats and supermarkets and universities and schools also getting inviting teachers to have a field trip into the hacker space anything from little kids in first grade all the way up through university is a great way to get new people as well I have a question to you about terminology so I hear there are hacker spaces there are fab labs there are maker spaces they are all to me more or less the same thing maybe they are totally different I don't know but I was looking for a fab lab at the place I recently moved to and I didn't find any so they are calling themselves Sandkasten so I told them please somewhere on the website mention that you're something like a fab lab people might find you so what I suggest maybe to improve your publicity put those three or four or five words into your website somewhere that you're something like it maybe not exactly but people might find you that way and there's also hackerspaces.org if your space is not on hackerspaces.org it's a wiki just fill out the form and get yourself on there because then you will show up on any google or any search engine search if you're not there you won't show up but if anyone types in Switzerland hacker space all the hacker spaces or maker spaces or fab labs whatever the hell you want to call yourself it doesn't matter as long as you have a supportive community for people to come and explore and do cool it doesn't matter what you call yourself just but put yourself on hackerspaces.org and many more people will find you so I told you we are in a school it's a a technical school so people which do a apprenticeship in IT going through to school and the positive aspect from us is some of our members are teachers part time at this school and they make a little bit of advertisement and we a lot some of our members coming through on G-Side to our club and for us this is a really good way to get new members and even if we don't have a teacher from a time periods there sometimes people from us are going there and asking the teacher before can we come during the break and tell your students something about us and this worked very well so even if you are located on other places go to the schools or to the university and hold some short presentations this makes some noise people are beginning to talk and from time to time someone comes up to you Hi, I'm Steven sometimes when I travel around I go visit some other hacker spaces or maker spaces and what I sometimes notice is that when you have a website it really helps when you have clearly a calendar on it when you go to the website they see something is happening because for me as a guest it's not helpful it's always cool if you have something like a calendar and if there is one particular night or day where it says open night meet up then you know as an external that you can pop in and you're welcome and you're not disturbing so it always helps when you have a website that is also not just for people who are already into it but you know there you have a chance to jump in so that's from my experience when I go to other spaces I guess that's a really important point and it also ties in with what you said with the whole soldering workshops like this low barrier of entry stuff I mean like people from outside they don't necessarily know that they can just come to a hacker space and that they're welcome and like if you communicated the right way on your website or if you do soldering course 101 Arduino for total noobs that communicates a total other thing like get more people's attention and yeah maybe subscriptions so you had one more so we're not really a hacker space but kind of but we just meet up every week and do stuff so we kind of are so about just enabling people to spontaneously come by we had this idea that we once a month we don't meet up at our usual location like it's in an industrial area of sorts it's kind of away from the center so that the step is a bit lower for people to just appear and say hi and meet us but it turned out that like in our usual location we had new faces every two weeks or so like people said hey I saw your website so we decided to come and see what's going on here and on the other hand in this restaurant where you can really just come by and have a beer and talk it was just us most of the time so it seems like a hurdle of going out there to our space and like taking the freight elevator and calling people to come in because we don't have a key system or anything it it didn't stop anyone people new people came more often to our regular meetings there are new people meetings let me just say something first so the best way to do publicity is to tell everyone you meet that there's this incredibly cool thing and it even helps much more if you have stickers stickers are really cheap and people like stickers they put them on laptops they put them on poles they put them on skateboards they put them everywhere and it's really cool to see them when you're around and it has to have your physical address and your website on it and maybe a contact but certainly the name of the logo and a place they can find you but the best thing is to tell everyone and to tell everyone that you are totally open to everybody and you would love to have them come by if they're at all interested and then you hand them a sticker and now they have that reminder and when they see it they might come it's just one thing about what you said doing meeting in public places we had our local Linus Club we had some tables in a bar Saturday afternoon they were hacking there doing something I was going there trying to talk to this guy and they just didn't speak they didn't want to talk to me or I don't know they were so focused on their things and I didn't see the point them being there they just were a group isolated and I tried to stay there I sat down on a chair and just waited some guys started talking to me I didn't get any invitation maybe that's what you said just be open talk to the people that's maybe the most important point just being in public doesn't help if you don't talk we are all introverted geeks here but that doesn't mean you can't go up to someone and just say hey what kind of projects you play with that's a totally easy way to start a conversation with any geek that's a way to be welcoming there are also websites I don't know different places that have different ones that aren't tied with huge corporations there's one in San Francisco just called sffuncheap.com and it's just a place with fun and cheap stuff and anyone can post things there it's moderated by the website owner but stuff from noise bridges in there all the time and it's a way that a lot of people find out about cool things at noise bridge okay so do you have something to say or no you Tony okay because you were grabbing for the mic so thanks everyone for like these inspirational ideas on how we could tackle these three well in the beginning very isolated questions which then started like spread out into very broad topics I would like to remind everyone of you that Mitch Oldman is giving soldering workshops here so you might take part if you wish and please do so thank you everyone who took part had a question gave some response it was really interesting hearing from all you guys and like seeing that this whole thing is starting to grow in Switzerland or already has grown and is already something yeah thanks guys and now I'm going to stop over in the next guys session