The following is a presentation of TFNN, the Tiger Technician Hour with your host, Basil Chapman. Call now toll-free at 1-877-927-6648. Hi everyone, Basil Chapman on this Friday. This is Friday October the 8th and we're looking at the Dow up 48 points at 34,802. Looking at that higher range above the 50-period exponential moving average, trying to go again, let me just draw this in a little bit clearer, trying to go into this Chapman wave inside track repellent zone one more time. It keeps touching the pink line and then reversals. I've been talking about this as an arch formation that should make a second arch formation, the pattern that I call the lowercase M, which makes a lowercase H, and then it repeats with a successful test above the previous most important lower, 33,613, around about September the 19th, and the last low was 33,785. So far it's making a higher low and lower highs. If at any point next week is suddenly associated in the 35,100 area, that's a breakout to the upside and that extends that. And really what it says, and this is what I was talking about yesterday, when you think of consolidations, if you think of percentage and time, I like to think of the vertical and the horizontal. If you're thinking of time as moving sideways, we've gone in the doubt from August the 16th, the high of 35,631, we've taken to today, it is almost, look, as August, then you go September, and now you're going to October. We are just about in, by next week, we will have been two months in a consolidation pattern, and we've really only broken 2,000 points to the downside. We're in the middle of that at 34,817. It's one of the reasons why for subscribers to an opening call, we've been holding the diamonds, the position that we still have, we're taking a little bit off the profit from, we start off with options, the day of the low of August the 23rd of last year. A week or two later we went into the diamonds, and we've been in those diamonds, that's the long side, one-to-one, the long side since then. But in interim, we've had short side, we've had the DOG, one-to-one short, we've had the long diamonds as rallies. We just missed the other day holding our third position just in one week on the long side. It just got stopped out, and then it saw from the 340 level to where we are right now, 348 in fact, it went even higher, it went to 349. Now what we're looking at is holding very nicely, and because of it, and one of the reasons why for subscribers, we've been adding long positions, we've built up a nice cash position. Now we're slowly starting to put back. I'm not putting everything back. There's going to be a lot of whoopsaws going on. We're looking at a sideways consolidation taking time, not price yet. So that's the doubt. The weekly chart, I should wait until today at 4 o'clock to discuss it, but in fact it isn't a sell signal. Technically I could call it a sell mode, but the line hasn't broken under the 14 period yet, so I'm holding off on that. And the monthly chart has made it peak D, and it's still holding really well. In fact, it's just one or two percent of its all-time high. Let's go to the S&P. I'm going to take a little time today. I just want to kind of give the good sense of where we are, and for subscribers to my opening call, usually I try to do a Saturday morning overview video. I can't do it tomorrow, and I will try to do it. I'll probably do it on Sunday. I'm not sure when, but I'll do it on Sunday. And I'm building up the resources to be able to say, these are stocks that I really like, and over a period of weeks we want to start. At least I want to give you some sense of what I want you to get into for the longer term. I want the outlook for the rest of the year. I want to give a sense of what I'm looking at. And since we are still only in leg B, maybe a peak B in October, if we don't go above the S&P, higher 45, 45, 85 made on September the 2nd, maybe we'll make a peak B and by November we're starting to rally again to start a leg C to the upside. I'm not sure yet. All I'm saying is that I'm looking at this because in the travel way methodology, buy modes tend to go at least to a leg D than a peak D, and they can even go higher to E, F and G. So minimum in a buy mode should go to a leg D, and we're only at a leg B right now, haven't even confirmed the peak B. So that's very bullish looking out. In the interim, we can have a lot of choppiness. So the key support on the shorter term is 43.50, but certainly at any point next week, for whatever reason, I don't know what's left on the table, but there's a lot going on. 42.78 was the low, a close underneath 42.68 says, uh-oh, we're in a sell mode in the weekly chart, and this is more serious, but we haven't gotten there yet. Let's go to the QQQ. I'm taking a little time now going through each one carefully. QQQ is red, minus 37 right now at 362.62. We took our profits from the short side. I'm looking to get back into this maybe next week, because I think the NDX100 still has a lot of choppiness and a lot of consolidation to do, and at the same time, yes, a question to Dan while I'm thinking about it. Hi, Basil, could you look at the trend? I got 2.44 read yesterday and today. So I got to listen to this. Yesterday, the day before on Wednesday, in my chapter with Tringage, and all it is, is Richard Arms Tringage. Actually, they caused the Richard Arms short-term trading index. I call it my Tringage because I only use the numbers. It's made up of highs and lows subtracted from up and down. So it has its own methodology. I couldn't kill it. Yesterday, it had a low. Two days ago, that was Wednesday, it had a high of 213, which is exactly the same high as a week before, 213. And we did get the rally in the market. And the day before yesterday, we got a short-term trading index reading of, that was 0.36. And today's reading is 0.39. Both of them are very low, and that suggests that the Dow should have a week open, go to negative, and then have a rally. It's exactly what we've got today. You can see it's missed a couple of times. In fact, that's only out of the high reading and the low reading. The low reading has had more misses this year than ever. Normally, it has like a 98% success rate. This year, because of the incredible force of up moves to spike and stay higher, we've had quite a couple of misses, very, very few on the upside. And what happens on the upside, if it's above a certain level, I always say that there should be, within two days, there should be an E-mini, S&P E-mini, 9 to 11 point rally that'll help the market. Even if it's down sharply, don't be surprised if there's a sudden big rally. And that's a real good clue to that. And as I say, it's missed on the... It's often happened on Options Exploration Friday, where the following Monday, because of news over the weekend, there's been a big spike to the upside and it hasn't come down to negative. And that's a few times. So what we're looking at here is... There's a peak C in the 120-minute chart. Yes, thank you for mentioning that. And it should go to a D above the 34,975 level. It doesn't have to, but the technicals are still good. I don't think we'll do that today, but it could do that very soon. I'll be back in a moment. Brasile Chapel, we want to look at gold. There's a lot to look at. I'll be back and we'll talk about it. Bye. Are you looking for a way to consistently add winning trades to your portfolio? Tom O'Brien is here to help. Tom O'Brien has been successfully trading markets for over 30 years. A frequent contributor to TD Ameritrade Network and CNBC, Tom O'Brien founded TFNN over 20 years ago to help educate investors just like you. 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From the moment the market opens until the closing bell sounds, Tiger TV has eight different shows with expert hosts to help you make the right moves with your money.  Toll free at 1-877-927-6648 internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER>. So we're back. So Gold had a really nice boot earlier on from the streets of Dobson. It was like 78 equal 4 and now it is trading up just 5.80 at 1764.7. But I tell you what is interesting about this is that the GDX which is rare right now at 30.75 still a gap up from yesterday is starting to see a little bit of technical veracity that says, yes, it is not in play for the big move but on a shorter term basis it's trying to build some kind of a base and we'll know by, I'd say later today, I don't think it's there. I think it's Sunday night into Monday in my show on Monday, at this time on Monday I think we'll have a really good sense because we'll be looking at something like an ASA work it's holding much better, it's up 31 and 19.99 we'll be looking at what else what do we want to look at? We want to look at yesterday what was working. Remember NG I said people think it's a natural gas this was finally putting back down 3 cents to 7.39 it's had a spectacular move but let's go to RGLD, Royal Gold and you'll see, just trying to get off the bottom nothing really big but I like the fact that and if you go to Bitcoin Bitcoin is having a very big session today it's up 3.75 at a new recovery high not all the time high, recovery high and it's holding so I suspect Bitcoin has got a little bit more to play but Gold is trying to find a base to say hey, at some point very soon I want to be in the game of having bigger rallies and just bouncing up and down and up and down so I think that look at Silver, you'll see what I mean Silver is trading up and it's holding steady it's up to 24 cents at 22.90 nothing big but if you look there's an inverted head and shoulders the MACD is improving, the stochastic is at 61% not 35% but 61% the unbalanced volume is okay but it is improving and you're very close, another two days like this and Silver could finally this is a continuous Silver contract could have a crossover and says you know what, I could try to fill in that ugly candle of the 16th of September the higher round number 24 below 22.58 and here it is at 22.90 so I'm just saying that we were looking at it yesterday and I said Gold is becoming more interesting finally Gold, the GDX is participating before it wasn't, it's just a good sign, I don't know when the big moving Gold will be because it has to do with the XLF, it has to do with a lot of things XLF is up 18 cents at 39.01 it brought to a new recovery high yesterday peak APB, I really have to call this could be an even, I'm calling it a B for now here we go, peak A peak B, I don't like to use alternate counts if it's going to get confused but if it just says it's clear I know my parameters, that's one thing but right now I I mean the MACDs, good stochastic is at 85% on balance volumes already, 90 is above the 14 so I'm going to call this a buy mode that should squeak to a C and then maybe even a D and the weekly chart broke out so this is the S&P financial spider fund, when and if it starts to really tank and go below the 37, 20 it's called a 3690 level I think that's where you could maybe see the general the global, the geopolitical side say oh oh financials are in trouble let's go into Gold they haven't quite done that yet they're using the Bitcoin as kind of a proxy for the kind of trading we had seen for decades and decades in the Gold now for at least when I say now I mean the last three years or so four years we're looking at a Bitcoin taking over that volatility trade that some people love that's the way it is I need to just quickly show you the IYT which is the why am I not getting that IYT which is the iShares Dow Jones Transportation Average Index Fund they've got to change that name pretty quite nicely it also is trying to show that the economy is not quite as bad the big negativity we see is being alleviated a little bit by price movement to the upside and as long as the transports are acting well even with containers being held up etc that's a good sign yes we've got that peak D in the Chapman wave methodology peak D in the Jets the US Global Jets ETF peak A leg B in the weekly chart with the UShape pattern holding quite nicely so I think there is a general improvement in the market and we've just seen so many stocks really get clobbered not just like the market 4% to 8% but individually 25-30% even and some of the real leaders before okay I want to go to the TLT quickly this is trading at 142.05 we've been looking at this and saying the peaks that were made recently and that would be that's a C now that's a B this is in leg C to the downside and in the daily chart is broken the rectangle this is the rectangle always move between 152 and 145 is now at 142 and that says in the dreaded H pattern in the Chapman wave methodology you can get now you can get the 1 to 1 okay there it is the 1 to 1 to the downside and what does that mean this is from this high right here to that low you could get I don't even want to do this because it's not a good sign you could get there it is the 1 to the downside and it says wow 138 139 to 138 is a possibility and if that's the case you're going to see this tnx.x really move to the upside look it's already broken out in the weekly chart this when the politicians talk about they say oh it's just transitory the inflation aspect I don't know where they are and where they're living but this is a sign that rates are going up it's a sign that it's impacting the Philadelphia housing index which is way in the H pattern on the left side is taken out the left side low last week this week is getting a little bit back in but this is just suggesting there is inflation absolutely everywhere the other thing I did not do crude I'm sorry here comes crude crude oil crude oil has gone to an alternate account normally I would just go with this and I would say that was pd pullback and then a new start for an up move and that's e-slash a is probably af-slash b is probably b g-slash c is probably c the only reason why I keep the alternate account here is because in this methodology in the Chapman methodology when the MACD had a pd just barely acknowledges that there was a pullback and continuous higher and the on balance volume becomes extremely overboard that's where you've got to be careful because that's where you can get your reversal at a peak g the seventh highest peak but in this case I'm keeping it as a g-slash c my suspicion is we had the two day pullback Wednesday and Thursday and today we had a new recovery high I have to tell you crude oil I'll put it together someone asked me about xle at the same time I'll do the xle also just squeaked to a new recovery high is this an f or is this a brand new I'm just calling it an f for now there's no actual cell signal cell sign and the breakout in the weekly chart suggests this could be headed towards 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If it's going to have the second new shape pattern, and this is a weekly chart, without taking out 2920 on a closing basis, it needs quickly, and that's a weekly chart. So I mean quickly meaning two weeks, within two weeks or so, I'd say by the very first week of November, it has to be about 41 to be able to say, not only am I going into another leg C, gray leg C in the weekly, but if I surpass 43.23 at any stage, that'll start a leg D. And that's what you would want, because that would be E in the weekly, in the monthly chart, and that incredible early move in the first, in June of 2019, when it opens at 33, 33 goes to $8.69, and then screens up to 67, 67.78. Now it was the other round, it opened, and then it screened up to the 67th, and then plummeted down, and then it went even lower. It went down to 466 and 411 in October, two years ago, 2019. So this is a nice steady move. Look, higher highs and higher lows, but you see these wicks. This looks like a biotech stock. I don't like that I was asked about a particular stock in the den just a moment ago. A-V-E-O, A-V-E-O. Keep your eye on the monthly chart right here. This is Ethereum. Now look at E-V-E. Look at that. You see, when I said like a biotech stock, we used to see this years ago. I don't think they're allowed to do anymore, but we used to see every month a big spike, and it was because there was a news release, and the news release was because, I'm just guessing, the news release was because they needed to pay their workers, and they paid them in options, and they could sell their options on the big spike, get out, and then see it plummet down. That's why you got, in monthly charts, huge single shadows, these legs to the upside with the clothes down at the bottom of the candle itself, and that's what we're seeing. So my only concern when I was looking at A-V-E-O is that for the Daily Mag-D to cross positive is a 643, it needs to get to the six, really needs to get to the 668, 670s, and fairly soon, and it hasn't yet done that, but overall I can see the higher highs and higher lows is a possibility. So I'm talking about that in XLE, wasn't XLE, XLE is holding very nicely at 5641, what on earth was I looking at just the moment ago? I was looking at A-T-H-E, oh yes, A-T-H-E, yes those big spikes, but you see this one tends to fill it over a period of time, and the other one wasn't, so that's the difference in chart patterns, we're talking chart patterns. Now let's go back to the XLE, this is a very good sign, very strong, Mag-D is good, Stochastic is flat at 686%, 88% on balance volumes are tad overboard. I think crude oil and energy itself is in play, I think it's in play for 2020 and 2021, and you just got to be real careful, I wouldn't be shorting in this area at all. Federal Reserve hates gold, it was their only real competition until Bitcoin okay that's a political statement in a way, yeah I kind of understand that, and Newmont Mining, a question again, Newmont Mining, look at this, a nice red candle earlier in the day, look great and now it's giving it back, so I'm just thinking that there's a chance to begin a little stabilization here, and then just very slowly over a period of maybe seven to nine sessions, you just see another move to the upside, trying to build a base, and that's really the most important thing about the GDX gold, and just see where gold is right now, now it's only up two, let's give them back a huge chunk of the game, so Tiptoe if you're interested in gold, I'm advocating just tiptoe in, see what happens and don't treat it as the play until it starts to show you signs of holding gains, that's the most important thing, we've experimented today, we're experimenting with a position, a very very tight stop, I don't care if it gets stopped out, I don't care if it works, I care if on Monday or Tuesday we are still holding the position and it's starting to stabilize, that to me would be important, that's the only way you can do it, you have to have a test case, FANG I had a question about FANG which is the diamond back energy, look at that, it's like all the others, it just keeps going and going, wow talking about the energizer buzzer, energizer bunny, a leg D in the monthly chart, I don't know if this is a leg B in the week, everything about it says I should keep it as a B, I can have an alternate count because no it took out the left side, it took out that low, did it, now that was an overlapping wave, so this is really the starting point, yeah this is still in play, just for now I'm going to call it, you don't have to worry about the B until you worry about the the deity and the deity says strength at this point and it means that this particular strength has turned 109.69 FANG 109.69 up $4.57 up 4.35, one day, it's just unbelievable, I'm calling it E for now in the deity chart, NACD is a very good on-balance volume, extremely overboard, stochastic is flat at 91%, this is great, it's just looking at, I know person asked me has been in this for absolute ages, shaped my head, oh you sold half, no don't, no I think, look how were you to know, you're doing money management S&P, so maybe half was a little too much, but taking profits in a stock that's moved up so sharply on a big percentage move, there's nothing wrong with that, what I would do is split the half that you took off into two sections and say if this pulls back, it's at 109, if it pulls back in the next two three weeks between 98 and 95, I will put some part of that back and that means you've got a good 10 points that you've just gained by putting back some of it, and even if that becomes a top of more intermediate term, it doesn't matter, you can deal with it, but let's just deal with it when it gets there, you've done fabulously and it still looks good, and you've kept the half, that's fantastic, let's say questions have come in, okay Baidu, so I said yesterday I can see a balance coming, yep there's another balance today, it was one of the better ones, we were looking at Baba, Alibaba, also a balance but I think the chart formation of Baidu is a lot better because it never even got close to the left side low, FXI, FXI is the, this is the, now why, oh is it going to become a problem, I'm going to have to do something about it, yes, okay, FXI is up 32 cents, also had another, it's had a gap up yesterday and now it's followed through to the upside, so I'm going to draw this in, I don't know if this is going to be accurate, but I'm going to draw it in to say this is the pattern I'd be looking for, an arch formation, a little mini arch and then a larger arch and then it comes back and it might be a successful test by November of the 37 support, but if it goes from 39.90 the FXI, this is the ICHA's China Large Cap ETF and it spirals into the 41.30 area, 41.80, that's this, you know what, that's really much better action and the digestive phase that it's had, could be saying I might be consolidating but now I've got the upward bias to establish which stocks are really good and when we come back down, those are the ones you want to look at as potential bias, okay, I'll be back in a moment and we're looking at, yeah I've put it two years ago, that's Jeff, thank you for your questions, Awa. 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That's TFNN.com then hit Watch Tiger TV. Hi folks, we'll be back. I just wanted to check on. I said I would check it out over the coming two days and we'll look at it again on Monday. It's SDC. This is the Smile Direct Club Inc. It's trading up 22 cents at 682. Look at the range it had today, 709 and 641 on a percentage basis. That's a big move. But look at the weekly chart. Time alone is going to take it out of that downtrend line. So I said just maybe just start a little nibble on that. I still feel that way and maybe by Monday we'll have a good sense of how it holds. Just purely on a technical basis. Remember I said on a fundamental basis, there are all rumors, all sorts of things that are going on. You never know with these things. So we look at it purely on a technical basis and I'm pleased that today it's holding well. That was really important. After that candle, Chapman Wave Roman candle that we had yesterday, if there was a move that held under 646 for about an hour and a half, I would say be careful. It'll take out that left side low. This is so far good action. A bunch of questions came in. DBA, what was it? DBA, I know your own DBA. It's got the grains. What's it got? DBA is the DBA Agricultural Fund. We're along from the 13th way back in July of last year. So it's over a year. We're taking just a little bit off at 1493. Red is at 19.45. It's holding really nicely. And I must say, I never know how it's going to hold it, what's going to hold it, because it rotates. I don't know what the percentage is on. I don't even want to look. I just like to look at the chart. But look at this wheat dust, wheat pulling back. We're still holding in the upper range at 740. It's down just three quarters today. It needs to get to the 768 or higher level. And then I'll say that is very good action, but it's holding well. Soybean is trading up nicely. Well, that's helping today. Up 10 and three quarters at 1258. I want to see this, trying to get to 1282, the 200 period exponential moving average again, which was the magnitude went up and down and up and down like a little yo-yo until it pulled away. And now I want you to see it get back there. It's going to be tough to do that soybeans continuous contract. Khan, as we say in the Boston area, Khan is up just a dollar quarter at 535. Made a peak C1. This could be a C1, C2. But actually, I think it's holding very well. The 90 is still very strong as a MACD. So I think it has a chance by next week if it can go about 544, that's about nine points higher than where it is right now. That'll be the sign to say it's going to make that leg D. And if you look at sugar, I mean what else is there with sugar is, just in the sideways move, not doing very much. Someone said, could you look at CC, which is this is continuous contract of cocoa. Said a really strong move. Look at the weekly chart. Peak A, peak B, leg C is going in the monthly chart towards the upper band in the 2, 800 area. That's a 2741. It must hold 2681 as key support. KC, which is KC is the coffee, had a peak C, and then it pulls back and goes peak A, peak B. Oh, there's a leg D. And it's made a peak D, holding very nicely. Now it's in a range. And I think the range is at 200 right now. I believe the range will be between 215 and 180 over the next two, three weeks. And if it can break either one of those, that's the direction it could continue in. So that's that. High grade copper, high grade copper had a very nice session yesterday and another one today. Oh, the question came in, could I look at TGB? To sake of mine's periodically, we own this one. We don't have it right now. TGB, so high grade copper is in the upper range of this level, going towards 430 and it's trading at 427 and really strong 415 support. Yeah, so this is leg D and TGB. And I would just suggest you have this as a long-term position of the questioner. I want to know about it. Just leg D, the last one pulled back from 201, very sharply under the 200 period, moving average for two days and then rallied up and then went back again and ready back up so that whole 166 areas support. And it's a 2.00 right now. TGB trading unchanged at $2. I like this, but if it does pull back, I think the 192 to 185 area should be very good support. If it takes that out over the next two weeks and starts to pull back under 175, high grade copper is going to be telling in the same story internationally as many of the other areas that have been consolidating. But this is still way below the 267 high of the 15th of the week of the 15th of May. And it's in the lower range consolidating, but not breaking down, holding very nicely. I hope that helps you there. Question came in. Question, question, question. Where did I went to go with? Oh, NEU. NEU is New Market Corporation. I love the stock on a short term basis. The reason I got to it is because I thought it was NUE, which is a new call. And new call with all the steals is just being hammered. It's just, it's getting no play. Why? Because they're not really talking about infrastructure anymore, unless you got the big bull and the big bull is going to have just, I don't even know what it'll be, infrastructure. So that's why it's in a holding pattern, NUE, but NEU, keep in mind, it is, look at this from the low that was made back on the 19th around about the 19th of September, it's gone peak A, peak B, and in a leg C above the 200p moving average. And that means it could store here a little bit, but that weekly chart is starting to improve a lot. So this is, I don't know what they do. New Market Corporation, I suspect they have something to do with New Market Corporation. I don't know what they do. But I think this is something to keep in mind as a trade, but I probably would say to you, the question is just, what about it? I don't know whether you're long, short, any, if you're long, just hold it. Let's look at it again, maybe Tuesday of next week to see if it's held, it's a 354. 10 points below the 344, that's going to be key because if it breaks under that, it says not just the shorter term, but on the weekly basis, it could pull back a little bit further. Right now it's holding so well, I'm just going to say hold it. Oh, add? No, add to it. I wouldn't add, even though it's a leg C, I wouldn't add to it right now. Well, let me put it this way. I don't know what your position is. I don't know what your whole thinking is. If it's a very short term position because it's a leg C, right here at 354, I would add, this is a different question. I would add because it should pull back and then make a leg D. That's if it's in a chapter with buy mode and everything about it says it isn't a buy mode. Circassians said 90% are looking terrific. The weekly chart is something different, but on a daily basis, yes, I would add, I'd probably have a 15.5% stop initially. I'd like the C to continue into Monday. Then you've raised the base and then when it comes back for D, this C could go on for two days or who knows? Look at this leg A we're going for seven sessions. So I'm just saying to you that 200p moving average with 351, keep in mind that is an important magnet and very often until the price clears that hurdle and pushes away from it in this case, 359 or higher. And any pullback doesn't even break to the 353 level. And then it goes even higher. That means it's using it as a propellant rather than a magnet. So I hope that helps you, but in the longer term position at this point, don't touch. It's looking very good. Question came in. Oh, could you do the TLT? I thought I did that. Yeah, TLT broke to a low, a low. You know what? As we come back from the break, I'm going to get up my, the chalk and hands that I show subscribers over the weekend. I'll do this now because it's so important. So the downright now is up 30 sbs of two and a half. We just stuck in a range of this particular point, but there is, yeah. You never know. Oh, and we'll also look at some of the app policies. Tiger TV. Live every market day from 8 30 a.m. to 4 p.m. Eastern. For free. Each host is an experienced trader and gives their take on the market while taking calls and questions live from around the world. From the moment the market opens until the closing bell sounds, Tiger TV has eight different shows with expert hosts to help you make the right moves with your money. Watch online at TFNN.com or on TFNN's YouTube channel and become the investor you were born to be. TFNN, educating investors. 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I've worked for the last segment to go, so there's a lot to cover in the Chapman Wave methodology. We look for the lowest low. We count each success of the higher peak. You can go to seven peaks higher to ABCDEFG sequential alphabetically. It's at that fourth highest peak, peak D, that other things can happen. How important is a D? Come on, give me a break. How important? Look at this. One minute chart of the E-mini back at about 6... What was that? Yesterday at 1600, it goes to peak A, B, C, goes to a D. Right there, 2100. That is last night at about 9 o'clock. Then it pulls back, pulls back, and then it goes, there's a 10-minute E-mini to peak ABCDEFG. Boom, what does it do? It pulls back very sharply at 3.10 this morning. Well, it goes where? To the 200-period moving average. Did you need that before? No, only when you need it, you need it. Look how many times it's been hit, and now it's using it as a propellant at a peak D again, right there at 8.40 this morning. Look at that sharp pullback. Now you've been in a rectangle formation because you trade within the rectangle formation after 1.32 o'clock this afternoon, trading above 4400.  If you start to pull back, that 43.86 200-period moving average area has to be support. I got that out of the way. Let's go to this here. This is my three time frames, my three triple weekly chart pattern, the weekly chart of the yields. Look at this strong leg gray B in the 30-year, the 10-year, and the 5-year. This is already a C in the 5-year. Look what it's done to the wood, the eye shares. H pattern is holding the 50-period moving average support. Better hold there. And look at this. The left side low on the HDX is being tested right now. Very important moments. Now, just as we're going to wrap up, you're going to go, of course, to Larry Pesavento. I hope you have a wonderful weekend. I won't be able to do the update right now. We'll just repeat through the update from 10 a.m., but we're almost the same area. So with that said, watch the Dow. The Dow is holding above 90 more after two o'clock. That says it could be a good close, but my suspicion is we're going to be stuck in the range for now. I'm waiting for the weekend news. Have a wonderful weekend, and check out my opening for all my daily news then.


Welcome, everyone. This is the Jenkins platform special interest group. Let's look at the agenda and go through our topics for the day. So we've got open action items. Google summer of code 2020 custom Jenkins build service discussion. Yeah, this is an action. This is a topic I added yesterday. After the discussion, I'll be sliding. I believe because sliding asked for another session. And I suggest that if he's fine, we will just do it in the policy meeting. Great. And so there is no slide in here is also we can just keep it and I'll probably organize a separate session next week. All right. Okay. Yeah, for whom I was interested, the results. Another project related to Windows service rapper and the support there. We want to have a dedicated discussion next week for that. There is pending Google. So the, sorry, said the other one again was Windows service rapper. Is that right? Yes. Okay. All right. I'm just trying to find an email. Yes. It's in the JSOC. It's not on the platform. Okay. I'll probably forward the invitation. Super. Thank you. All right. Then we had in addition. HTTPS and HTT to support with jetty and Jenkins. I like that you had supported yesterday. We might discuss here. I put it on the agenda. Not sure what the, the topics are, but propose we have it on the agenda. Let's use this, this time, capture some notes and discuss. So why put that. Historically, we didn't use HTTPS support from jetty. Because our default recommendation in the Jenkins project was to use external service to do HTTPS sync. But now the fact that many users use features provided by jetty, because they exposed in Jenkins command line by Winston. So anybody is able to enable HTTPS provide certificates and get them working. And it was one of the major regressions we had in a 2.2 or 4.3. Because we missed that built card certificates for not longer supported. And since we had exactly zero test automation for HTTPS mode and basically one test straight in the LCS. There is a developer, my name is with retrospective. The situation with the HTTP 2 is basically similar. Jetty provides a disruption. You can enable it in Jenkins. But we have no test automation at the moment and we have no official documentation which will stay with the state with what it supports or not. So for me, for most of the options, the strategy would be that. Yes, we would like to make this support official. But in order to do so, we need to do some investment so that we can really provide some coverage for these options. Okay, so the, so the, and you've described my preference as well, then the challenges we have to find someone who can help with we have to find people who are willing to contribute tests to cover that for HTTPS and HTTP 2 grade. That's right. So this test should be really implemented on a Winston level. So that we discover issues when the update happened. Because one of the major issue in one of the major causes of recent preparations was that we got them from Jetty. And we didn't really test the techniques on the Winston level. And then we didn't test them on the Jenkins core level. But it would be better to have tests earlier so that we know that Jetty updates break something we need to adjust. That makes sense. Okay, better. So better to test in Winston. With some form of checks there. Yeah. In addition to test coverage, it would require some documentation for users. Maybe some support in Docker images. Because you need to go through additional hoops if you want to enable the options. And if we decide that it's officially supported more than we should probably have an easy way to enable them in Docker. Right. And that was a kind of joke, which is probably deserves a serious discussion later. It's about using HTTPS and Jenkins by default. So discouraging use of HTTP there. But it's a complex problem. And it's definitely not in the scope for the initial steps with HTTPS support. But it is, I could see how it seems at least to me to be worth considering. Because pay we ship secure by default at the password level. Why should we allow sniffing of sniffing of content. Good. Okay. Well, the problem there certificates, right, right.  So that's, that's the harder thing about doing HTTPS by default. Yeah, I was assuming we do attempt something with let's encrypt and ACME to try to talk them and talk to them ask them to grant us a certificate but I guess that's probably dreaming isn't it. So the problem that it would be users who have to set up their own certificates. Right. It's not us. And I can imagine how we could do it automatic in an automatic way with let's encrypt for connected instances, but since Jenkins has been installed in isolated environments. Yeah, I'm not sure. Anyway, it's a subject for long term discussion. And definitely there is no way we disable and remove HTTP mode support. There are external services which provide HTTP to many users and moving this case isn't something for you would like to consider. Great. Okay. Anything else on HTTPS and HTTP to Alex, what would be your perspective. I think the biggest thing we're looking at is increasing our testing on these isn't it right now. So I think I need to look at the issues that came out and see if I can understand a little bit better what happened fully so I can have a little bit better idea of what to recommend but I think our test cases should at least be increased to catch something like what we had happen. I think this retains at a bare minimum. Yeah, JC has already added a smoke test for HTTPS. Definitely one test is not enough. And so that smoke test has been added to Winston or to to Jenkins. Winston. Yeah, testing it on the Jenkins level is lesser than trivial. Because if you want to test HTTPS you either create mock certificates and using HTML unit for that is probably not appropriate. So it would go to a set of test harness to proper integrations there to running Jenkins in the container and connect to that. All of that is doable. All of that requires some kind of investment. Right. Okay. So ideally, I would like to run all existing web UI tests and both HTTPS and HTTPS mode so that we get the initial test coverage. It's a wishful thinking right now. See for me that that seems like that would that almost feels excessive to me just because the seems like those things should be protocol independent whether you're HTTPS or HTTPS are there in cases where they haven't been protocol independent. So, yeah, practically everything should be a protocol independent. But theoretically it doesn't mean that JT works that way with HTTPS. So when you start forum submissions you may discover for example that for HTT you get one forum size limit, HTTPS you'll get another one. For HTTPS it's even more risky because HTTPS is implemented by additional library in JT. So these are the things you need to keep in mind. We are well equipped to run such kind of tests because when you're working on customer package or when you're working on session and session, sorry, essential test framework, which is basically ever been a test framework. So we included opportunity to run existing tests with customized Jenkins versions. It was the whole point of customer package in the first implementations where you can package everything you can include configuration as code and system properties which will enable HTTPS by default. So you can run, for example, Git plugin test with HTTPS using this framework. I guess it's not that easy when you try to implement that, but it should be possible right now just to implement these pipelines. Okay. Anything else? Alex or Oleg? Okay. Last topic on my list was PowerPC64 and Series 390 status report. I've actually been running the both of them agents on PowerPC64 and on Series 390 from my CI server at home. And it works great. They work great. They run tests. They've run the tests of the Git client, the Git plugin, the platform labeler, general purpose test jobs, all seem to be holding up well. I did learn that it is quite important for performance to run OpenJ9 on S390. It performs much more reasonably than if you run the OpenJDK that is bundled with the operating system. The operating system bundled JDK is interpretive mode only, no JIT. Operating system OpenJDK has no JIT. It's an interpreted only and it is slow. Any questions there or Alex, have you been using doing anything with PowerPC or Series 390? No, I have not, but I was just wondering. So, so it's only OpenJ9 basically that we can use on there. The gym had said that adopt OpenJDK said that adopt OpenJDK has JIT enabled. I didn't spend a lot of time checking that. Keep in mind that there are two distributions of adopt OpenJDK because adopt OpenJDK includes hotspot and OpenJ9 engines. These are separate distributions you can download. So when Jim said that, I believe it's related to the OpenJ9 engine. Ah, okay. See, that was the spot that I must have misunderstood. I thought he had said that, okay, the adopt OpenJDK definitely has no JIT and that I've observed. And I've seen that OpenJ9 performs quite reasonably, so I think it must have JIT involved. So it's not a hotspot in your line. It's OpenJ9, at least I believe so. Okay, all right. We still need, in terms of other things, we still need the final PowerPC configuration. Yeah, in fact, oh, like so on that one, I intentionally, oh, you're putting that in as a question to investigate. Yeah, because if you assume it was hotspot, yeah, I'm not sure about that. And nor am I, because my observation was, and that I think is correct. I know that the adopt OpenJDK, OpenJ9 does, and I know that OpenJDK does not. And the test is for hotspots, I agree, absolutely. Then we still need the final PowerPC64 LE configuration. It's currently using an SSH jump post, which is, it's rather complicated to manage, manages a Jenkins agent. I can give you the instructions on how it's done. It was, I found them on a page. We launched the agent with a command on the master, rather than using the SSH agent plug-in. And that means then that we have to must approve a system script through script security. And that approval is not supported by JCASC. You mean, so JCASC now supports script security. It doesn't, yeah, but unfortunately it doesn't support that aspect of script security. At least I haven't found a way to make it work. It definitely works for a medicine vacation at least. I have never checked system script because system script implementation is, script security is quite weird because it basically approves hashes of scripts. So I believe that as long as you provide the proper hashing JCASC, it will work. But you will need to somehow get this proper hash. Well, and I've certainly approved pipeline scripts with a hash and those do work in JCASC. This thing is somehow different. And I can't even find the keyword necessary to tell it to approve the script. Okay, so maybe wasn't supported. Yeah, so but I'm not sure it actually should be supported because I don't think we really want long term to use to require a system level script to run an SS to run an agent. This thing should be supported through an SSH agent, just like all the other agents. Today is also as far as I understand it working on the steps to include in include on ci.jankins.io. Any questions there. All right, Alex, any other topics from you. Just from the arm 64 front least. So we're getting AWS we have AWS credits. They have their graviton instances which are arm 64. So I'll be looking into arm 64 there. Ah, great. All right. I wonder whether sponsorship includes F1. What was that. F1 is FPGAs. I can barely provide any reasonable use case for ci.jankins.io. But if you get the sponsorship, I will definitely try to come up with something. Right, right. But your hardware, your heart of heart of hardware suddenly gets pumping and the blood starts flowing. Oh, that could be interesting. Oh, yeah, cool. I didn't know about FPGAs a service that sounds that sounds interesting. We had a student in a FOSI foundation this year who implemented some delivery pipelines for projects using F1. Well, it wasn't powered by Jenkins but the concept can be adjusted to Jenkins as well. So at least it could be good as a case study and maybe as a demo. Yeah, definitely not in the top of my power list. All right, any, anything else on arm 64, Alex or Oleg. Nothing from you. No, nothing else. All right, I think we have concluded all of the topics that we had on the agenda. If, if there's nothing else I propose we call an end to this meeting thanks everybody. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks and I'll host them. I'll save the save the recording and talk to you in two weeks.


We're glad to know you're still there and we welcome you back. He's still the breakfast on Plus TV Africa and we're being joined by our guest for this morning to deal with the headlines on our national dailies. In the person of Mr. Chris Kende Wandoo, member of the Chattat Institute of Abitrators in the U.K. He's talking to us from Lagos, Nigeria. Good morning and welcome to the program, sir. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. We're here with a punch newspaper—the first story on that, of the leading headline there is military, police, vow tough actions for ballot box snatchers, audors. They are talking about off-season polls that is happening in Baelze, Emo, and where else does it happen in Kogi state? Yeah, these three states, of season elections are happening. and the military and the police are vowing tough action for ballot box snatchers and others. Let me hear your comments on that. Let's just take one after the other. Yes, once again, good morning. Yes, talk about do people still snag ballot boxes? I thought that's something of the past because like the new electorate and by how far we've grown in our electoral system, the issue of ballot boxes doesn't begin since it did. Yes, you dropped your Tom Pritzett ballot papers and the pass bet. Don't forget that this thing is on the electronic side of it, most of the time. So whether you like us, not all the ballot boxes, has already been captured with the electoral device. The voting has been captured by the electronics and them. So it's in the past that you see people snatching ballot boxes and going around and messing up tickets. With what I think you have done, if they stick to the rule and they stick by their rules, then definitely that is a necessary. So I hope that I think we'll be able to stick to the electoral act and be able to transmit results real time as they promise during the 2023 election which they fumbled with especially when they came to that potential election. But we'll see in some offices in a election in some states for the general election where I like what they perform. So the assurances has to come from I like that they're very good people. They're talking about also security, level of insecurity. Yes, all eyes will be on this three states will be by SR and in most states. But it is good because it is an off-season election. Unlike what we had earlier in the year where election took place in 36 states of preparation as well as the FCT. So the security agencies were stretched to their limits and that in itself poses a lot of effects. For off-season election just three states I think we have enough security to handle that. And good enough, I just came back from great mistakes. I was there for about four days to show my heterogeneous police. Police invited me as one of the editors to to witness the conference and retreat for senior police officers from the ranks of the commission of police to the IDP. And it was a robust retreat and conference. And the IDP got the opportunity to use the opportunity to reassure my ingredients that these three states will be well secured. And one of the troublemakers who want to form a troublemaker during this election, stay clear of the by SR and in most states. Yes, it's one thing to be able to give but whether the editors in the process will be able to handle that is what we don't know. But I hope that because if you look at the reports coming in from by SR and in this state it's not going to be super let it go. Some of these states are very well tied. When it comes to election issues and the security, but I hope this election will come to that in the level of threat to the security of the electorates because if the electorates know that their life is not secure, then they're going to have serious put up and that is going to affect the result of that election. So the secretaries are giving the necessary chances so that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's the thing. We do hope that it's going to be like Inaq is saying because like you observed if Inaq sticks to the rule they are going to, all this ballot box snatching will not be even a thing, but will they stick to the rules because the experience we had in the past election, they won early this year did not show that Inaq was willing to stick to the rules in particular elections anyway. And then the police also seem to be compromised. It's not just because they were stressed, but they seem to be compromised. But again, maybe because the numbers were not much, they were also trying to guard against there coming to any harm and all that because a lot of things that happened in that election, they didn't show that the police were even prepared enough and Inaq was prepared enough for some of these things. But we do hope that they are going to stick to that. But that same headlines on the Guardian newspaper says less than 30% registered voters will decide by Elsa Imo Kogi Paul. That's the leading headline on the Guardian newspaper concerning election, the off-season election. Now what does this say about our electoral process? Because in the February 25 election, for instance, the percentage of people that came out to vote was so much, so massive that we felt that electoral system or the process is going to take a new look. But now, 30%, just 30%, is a very minimal number that gives me worry that we're going back to the days where nobody took election matters seriously. Yeah, there are so many facts. So the first thing has to be look at your nation. This has segmented your nation sort of. It's already happening at three states. And just their governorship, their governorship election, for governorship election, the one that happened earlier in the year that is presiding, we had the presidential and that in itself had so much to say. So a lot of people took out to vote during that election. Not only the presidential, we had state elections, national assembly as well as state as a percent. But that is not going to be the case. This one is strictly for governorship election. So this thing is not as high as it was earlier in the year. Two, is also that, because as I said, both are party, when people lose trust in the system, that in this, I bet people's enthusiasm to come out and vote. These people that voted earlier in the year, I feel that there are short chains and that they are both doing count, doesn't count. So does it that some people will not be able to come out again to vote? The third one would also mean that when you look at some of the, the fact that it is the court that not decides election, what's the electorate. And that in itself is a dangerous trend in our political system. Because it's difficult to go to the polling unit due to some, and vote for their candidates, only for them, for the courts to overturn that robot technicalities and the rest of them. That puts a lot of pressure on people and it reduces people's confidence within the system, political system. So if I assume I voted for somebody and then I believe that I won, only for the person to lose at the courts, then there's a problem. If you call me to come out and vote again, then definitely I may not be able to come out again. So those are the some of the things. So we're going to start at it. And this is why I'm talking about INAG doing the right thing. Because I, when you see some of the budgets and see what is going on, you come to realize that some of the, some, maybe not most of these issues will cause by INAG and also pre-election matters as it were. But we have to find a way of making people's confidence, we reduce people's confidence in the electoral system so that they have the confidence. It has to be happening across the globe. The United States, the United Kingdom and most advanced countries of the world. After INAG, yeah, there always be disputed at the, remember what happened during the Biden and Trump, the presidential election in the United States. We had Trump was saying that although he was rigged, it was not, but they had a system that is so confident that we look at it and it's so transparent that not anybody can go about it. Biden can go about it and don't talk. This is as glaring to anybody that can go to the system and check how people voted. So we want to bring that to bear in our electoral system. You continue to have this, they will not put us apart. And that is the truth. Okay, another thing that I feel is connected is back to the punch newspaper now. There is a headline saying INAG delays trial of 197 electoral offenders. The election in Kogi, Bayelsa and Imo state is in four days. And these people are not being prosecuted. Some of these people could have been sent to jail as a, to serve as a deterrent to others that might want to do the kind of things that these same people did, but it has been delayed. Now the prosecution will come possibly after, in fact it will come after the election. So which means nobody gets to see what is done to offenders, electoral offenders. I don't know whether you see it the way I'm seeing it. Do you think this is a good thing or a bad thing? Yeah, I see. But you also have to put it to progress as they thought that the power of prosecution doesn't lie with INAG password. It's the security agents that are supposed to prosecute. And so, and INAG, to a large extent, doesn't have the capacity to prosecute all these people. So they have to work in hand, in hand with security agents, especially the police, to be able to make sure that. And let me give a quick example. I'm sure you have a really good report about the suspended wreck in Adamawa. That is being prosecuted. He was invited by the courts. He refused to appear. Did just a few days ago. He refused to appear before the court. And he wanted to make it worse. This man is a lawyer. He's a qualified lawyer, he's a member of the NBA. And he refused to appear in court. So something must be amiss somewhere. So I totally agree with you, yes, that except we start prosecuting some of the electoral offenders, then this issue will be best. Is it only with election? Ask yourself, what happened to all the Boko Haram members that were arrested for insecurity and for killings and bombings all over the country? How many of them have been brought before the court? How many of them have been prosecuted? Last government said that they were going to publish the Finances of Insecurity in Nigeria. How many names were published? How many were prosecuted? Is it all those that were arrested for terrorism? So those are the levels of impunity in the system. And if we don't have the political means to prosecute some of them, that is why those of them get so embodied and it cannot pass it. There have been one or two convulsions there. I know there was one in Apoi Bomb and I don't know what ever one of the purposes that was in the electoral practices that were prosecuted. But that is just a drop in duration. So we have to move on. I personally feel that we should have a special court for these electoral offenses. So I was disputing the, I was shown in prosecuting them. Just to give them to the number of courts, it slows down the system. You know the system within the courts. It takes time. We don't have enough budgets to be able to. And even then they have so many cases. It's not only electoral matters they are dealing with. They are dealing with criminal cases. They are dealing with theft. They are dealing with fraud. They are dealing with so many cases. So it becomes why we see the kind of level of progress we are making in the courts as well as the tribunals is because there are special tribunals for electoral matters. And that is why, and also the constitution has given a time frame for which these issues to be dealt with. 19 days, 16 days, three months, or unlike before. You know before, electoral matters could take about two, three, four years at times to be able to settle. But now with the new electoral act, it has been specified as to how and when the issues of electoral matters can be settled. At the lower tribunals, at the court of appeal, which is why you saw that the Supreme Court was able to give a judgment on the issue of the presidential election as quickly as possible. In the past, we had some of this judgment begin after three years, and that was not good enough. Okay, well, we continue with another headline here. We know that we've seen that soldiers are showing force in patrol, in Kogi, Bayosa, and Imo State. But that's not what really is concerning me right now. What concerns me is the court rejects Akere Dulu lawmaker suit against Ayed Tewa. It's still going on. The problem in Ando State is still going on. And I don't know. Speak to that, please.  I told that the, we were told that the APC have settled the matter, and the gladiators have been asked to shade their place. I want to know what's going on. Yes. We were the APC national chairman visiting the state, talking to the gladiators, but the state was under threat. It's obvious that that was a piece of the graveyard, and they did not agree to that. So what we are saying now is that each of them are digging in. But the fact remains that they are constitutional provisions on how to remove a governor, a deputy governor. Any other team around that is complete fallacy. You cannot do it. So I've tried it in the past, and back prior. It was done in, it was done in Anambra State. I guess in P2B it failed. It was done in a, in a, this is the state. I guess it was the former governor, Spai O'Shea, and he was moved and he failed. So for the, for the legislators to be able to do that, they have to go through the processes, and the processes is just well-established in our constitution. We have to be able to come up with allegations as it were. Then they have to raise a panel as the chief judge to raise a panel request to get up. So it's the processes that the fact remains that they served states, they served states, they served on those states. There was this issue between the same governor and his former deputy. I think his name was the, was Abola or something called like that. And he said to us, and we were not able to remove that deputy governor, who was a deputy to a governor, agreed to do all to the end of his first tenure. So we are seeing the same thing, we are seeing lightning striking on the same spot. But to me, irrespective of all the shenanigans I grew up, the question still remains, where is governor, who to me, agreed to do all to the state? Yeah, well, we had one of the three, one of our interventions, one of them. Yeah. Well, you know, I can't believe he has remained in Badu or your state, can a governor preside over his state from another state? I think that one, we should, that one should be worried the state has to have some sort of assembly. Why is it that the governor is not in Augusta? Why is it that he's in Badu? That should be, you know, in other climes, and the people who have started doing this issue, he's back in the country, he was away for about three months, then after that he came back, since he came back to Nigeria, has not stepped foot on those things. And that should be worried the members of the House of Asset, and not all the separatist allegations that have been made and levied against the deputy governor. I think that should be the good. Governance to me is totalism. Governance is, this is governance in diaspora, and which is not allowed in our constitution. Well, the presidency said, the president can rule from any place that he wants to, any part of the world. And also the people in understate, the lawmakers have said that their governor can rule from any part of the world, that it is not condemned by the constitution. That's what they said. Maybe it should be spread out and criminalized. No, that is wrong. Because of all this case, that is why, you know, the problem started with during the Yara-Dua administration. When Yara-Dua had issued his house, and he was at a country, and he refused to transmit power to his deputy, his vice president, who was rubber janitor. So, and that came down for a long time, and that the governance was particularly left in the hands of Turai and the wife, and the HGF and Loka, yes, that was the same HGF and Loka, and governance was particularly crippled in Nigeria. And because of that, the national assembly came up with the amended constitution, and given the way that if a government is a president, a government is going, traveling out of the country for a certain period, then he has to transmit power to his deputy or vice. And that is for a period. I think that period is not supposed to be, I don't know more of this now, but I think it's about 60 years or there about. So, if the government had been out of the state for that period, yes, we can go from anywhere, but it's for a specific period. And he said that there was a transmission of power in most transition. So, if it's out of the state for a certain period, no one above what was rightly stated in the constitution, then it is an aberration. There is no distance. So, he said that you can go from, of course, that is not true. You cannot just go from anywhere. You can say that as well, say that the president of Nigeria can go and be living in London, and you know, that is completely wrong. That has been taken over by the constitution. And whoever is by this thing that is just making a mockery of our constitution as it is. Perhaps that's why all this is happening. So that it will be like the deputy governor is incapable of taking the reins of power. That's, so the governor can still rule from anywhere. But I don't know. Maybe the constitutional only talked about getting out of the country. But here, although it's a neighbor, I understand there was a time when very recently, when the Southwest governors went to visit him in his house in Ibadon. It seemed like a normal thing. And then the deputy governor who is resident in those state is being, like some people will put it, being witch-hunted by the political class, maybe a cabal that is taking care of the government and governance in the absence of the governor. But my concern- In terms of absence from the state, it's not, I don't think that was any specific answer. Whether you are traveling to Japan or Mexico or something. Yes, that is not the issue. We say that if you are not within it, you know that everything in law has, we talk about jurisdiction, okay? Everything about law is about jurisdiction. If you are going to court, and you are taking a case to a court that doesn't have the jurisdiction for that case, then it's as good as not having that case. Because if you do, if you raise the need of, there's an abortion race on jurisdiction. The first thing is, George, we stop and maybe to consider the issue of jurisdiction for that case. So if it doesn't have the power to be able to educate on that, because there are certain, let me, I'm just telling you, there are certain cases that mean for the high courts, not for the magistrate courts, not for the customary courts, okay? So if you take that case to a customary court or to a magistrate court, of course, the George in charge, we have to tell you that he does not have jurisdiction. I'm sure he must have read that several times in the papers or in this statement, because he does not have jurisdiction. So he has to now send that case to a court of competent juridian who talk about competent jurisdiction. So in terms of jurisdiction, the jurisdiction of the government is, within his state, is the state in government. So he can still live in Lagos and say, yeah, I'm government, you remain in it. And you say, you are the government of my state of him. How possible? For how long? No, no, no, I don't think so. But the fact is that the legislative firm is, just like local government chairman, they are in the pocket of the government. So the governor particularly determines who becomes a member of the status of assembly or chairman. So anything that governor says, that's what happens. So there are no... Is there no group that can go into the matter? And because if he's not supposed to be out of the state for a period of time, and he has been out of his state and more than this time that was given by the constitution. And like you said, the people in the house of assembly are in his pocket. Can't another higher body be responsible of addressing this issue? Maybe the national assembly or something. Can any governor just do what he likes because the people in the state assembly are in his pocket? That's why we say we have to think about this constitution. But actually to think about it, there's no constitution that is so solid that is not going to amend it. Even the constitution of United States that people have posted in 100 years, continuously they amend it. Now, constitutionally, the only body that can remove the governor that will come out of the status of assembly, no other. Except on election matters that you see that the tribunal has caught in that best. Apart from that, there is no other way. And it's stressed out to be this thing. You can pass it, blah, blah, blah, blah. Any other person, nobody can go to pass it. This government, nobody can do it. It is only the status of assembly that has been powered by the law. And they are the only ones that can do it. So if they don't need that, there is nobody that can do that. So it's not a question of you going to call and say, yes, we can look at the provisions of it now as affect this issue. You can go to court to mandate the status of assembly to do its job as it were. But if they are not willing to do it, what do you do? So you can't go to court and say, oh, the Supreme Court, that's why you see they have immunity. They have immunity. The governor, they don't think of not have immunity just like the president and vice president. So it is within the powers of the, on those status of assembly to do it. Even the thing that is necessary, which I think is necessary as it were now. But are they doing it? I don't think they have what it takes to do that. That's serious. So the states are so independent that governors can do what they like. And if you are able to buy the local government chairman, buy the state house of assembly members, then you are a load in your state. Like you said, maybe something needs to be done about the constitution to bring about some of the things that we think are going wrong in our country. Well, this one, I don't know how this will sound like news, but the state government, legal state government in August, precisely on the 2nd of August made an announcement that the bus fares in BRT as a way of palliative will be sliced by 50%. And it went on and people were flocking to the BRT terminals to take these buses because at least it helped them to save some more money. Now it was announced again that they are going to remove the 50% rebate that was given. So you will pay the actual price. And we had that experience. We went there, found out that these things have already begun. So where you were paying 250, you're now paying 500. Where you were paying 150, you're now paying 300. It's happening already. Today, the governor has said that from tomorrow, or yesterday, the governor said from tomorrow, because of public outcry, they first are going to be reduced again by 25%, no longer 50%. So they are meeting the public halfway, 25%, it will be reduced. I don't know if you have a comment about that. Palliatives are until something good has come. But I don't know if something good has come that we are not seeing, but this thing that was supposed to help us until we stabilize, fuel problem, the transportation problem and all that is going to be removed, even if they are adding 25%, but has anything been done that you have seen that should make someone say, okay, this help I was giving you because you lost that other one, I'm taking it back? Well, all my life, I've never gotten any Palliative on public, all my life. And so, the little one that I was getting, or we were getting, which is the price of the petroleum substance, which you and I have been enjoying over the years, that is only subsidized only Palliative that I know the government are giving Nigerians that I know across and across, but that has been removed. And I've said that it's so called Palliative being given and being managed by the government, but the federal and state government to me is what you call the local parliament audio. I hope you understand what I mean, but we say audio, you know, we talk audio, say, ah, this is not human. That's what it is. Let's come back to that of legacy. Yes, the government say that they are going to reduce the cost of transportation as such and when it comes to priority and even the blue rate, about 50 cents, just to be able to protect, you said that coming back now to say, no, that has restored, okay, it's going to be the type of service of public health. And the government and the NURT or whatever they call them, at the point that acts of transportation in Lagos and the UNOS agreed that we could do that. But nothing was done. Absolutely nothing was done about that. So that the government coming down to, they're just using it as a way of just asserting people and just making them to see reason. But the government in his wisdom feel that we have done enough, which I believe is not enough. And then we drop the subsidy. I am not, because you asked yourself, what is the government and talking about government generally in Nigeria subsidizing? I'm not just talking about Lagos. Because across the world, that the citizens enjoy some elements of subsidy. It could be in agriculture. It could be in transportation. It could be a power electricity. It could be gas. It could be so many other things. None. Just points, one single thing, which Nigerians are enjoying as a subsidy. Even the petroleum, we could avoid that. We're supposed to be enjoying some level of subsidy because we are one of the highest producers of food oil in the world. But what we have is, we're having the short end of the stick. And that is what it is. And that is why I would say that all these politicians that the government has been spending trillions and trillions of naira is just for me. It's not worth it. It is the same country that somebody told us that they are feeding our children during COVID. And trillions and trillions of naira were spent feeding our children. Our children that were at home with us that were feeding, they said they were feeding them. And that is highly, that is level of corruption within the system. So that the Lagos state government, that they even give it 25% to me, they are trying some other states don't even do that at all. Other states don't have any provision for transportation for their people. So they should be commended, but I think that they can still do more. I still believe that the Lagos state government have the capacity to relieve it at 50% on the reasonable time where people can be able to adjust. Don't forget that not salary have not been increased. Their salary have not been increased. Even the so-called palliatives that say they are going to increase people, it's not getting to the people. So, but it's not something that is surprising to me. I knew that this day would come and only that it came just too early, as it were. Okay, let's move to the Guardian newspaper now. The Guardian newspaper says that US government travel advisory hurtful to Nigerian economy says IG. You remember that the US has said that there are some places, especially in hotels in very big cities that may see some problems in the coming days. So there are people to be careful about it. So the federal government is saying that it's very hurtful to the economy because people cannot come to do investment in the country. But what do you think about the US travel advisory and how it affects us? Well, this is not the first time they're saying that practically city, almost it has not become a monthly issue and the state mandate. The advisory is for their people, it's for US citizens coming to Nigeria. They should be careful of places to go to invest in them. But Nigeria is not at war. I think that statement should be sent to US citizens going to Ukraine, US citizen going to Israel and US citizen going to Sudan and Somalia and places that are practically at war and where the high level of insecurity is at the high. But it is also good to give that assistance because even we, let us not shy away from the fact that we have some high level of insecurity. I for one, and for me, must ask me when last was I, you know, but when I went past because of the high level of insecurity as a lot of people from the cities don't go again because of the so-called unknown government, because of the killings, many people in the North East, senators, those in government don't go. There are some people that I know that are from Bono state and part of the North East, they have not traveled past 80 years to their villages. And that is a fact. So those advisories are, yes, it's good, but we also have to look inward and make sure that we're able to handle our own situation properly and be able to tackle the issue of insecurity as well. We just have a supplementary budget that was just released. The highest vote on that budget is going for security, is for security. And you continue to ask yourself, for how long will it be? Other sectors like health, education, infrastructure, roads, and so many other areas are suffering because of insecurity. So if you are projecting much of a budget to service a security issue, then that is a problem which we by now should be able to have dealt with issue of insecurity. And they dealt with this really, so that we can be able to challenge this money to other critical areas. As I said, education helps. A lot of Nigerians are having serious health challenges now. The prices of drugs have gone so high that many people cannot afford to take care of themselves. Just yesterday, you heard that about the Nominwood actor, Mr. Ibu, that his leg was abjuted because he was looking for money to be able to take care of himself. So he had some challenges which deteriorated to that. But even at that point, he was asking for assistance and now he has lost one leg. But that is just, there are so many other Nigerians. Ordinary malaria, some people cannot be able to, do you know that some people cannot make 580 Nigeria. So if you fall in, no malaria tab, no research of malaria tab that goes for less than 1,000 million, so how will we deal with it? So those are the areas that we should be looking at and they will deal with it. Say now our minds as our government should be looking at and not just what USA is saying that. Are we doing enough to even attract foreign investment into Nigeria? What is our, what of our power sector? We are holding between 4,000 megawatt and 5,000 of in a country of over 200 million people. The SMC is particularly dying. Is that the, is it the US adversary that is causing that? I think the, yes, yes, as we can say, US and other countries will raise such a landslide. Let us in whether, then put it in for the also. You can ask, there's no way in the world where we don't have a security. Just three days ago, a woman just woke up and shot 18 Americans dead on the day once with it. Niger government didn't ask Nigerians to go together because of that. I think the issue that we need more cooperation as small assistance for our partners as it were. But let us look in what I mentioned, what we need. If we put our houses right, we see people coming here to the US as it were. Okay, well, is it, is it a deliberate effort to sabotage the gains that we may be trying to make and all that, some questions have been raised. But there, a funny headline for me, it's a very funny headline here, is that court confirms authenticity of Enugu governor's NYSC certificate. There was this back and forth between NYSC and the governor of Enugu state. And the NYSC was saying, it's not authentic. The Enugu state governor said, it is authentic. Now, the court has said, the Enugu state governor's certificate is authentic. And even awarded five million Naira against the NYSC in favor of the governor. And I find it funny. I don't know how you find it. That an institution that is supposed to issue a certificate cannot recognize its own certificate anymore. And they're saying, whether it is good or it is bad or it's authentic or it's not authentic. I don't know how you feel about that. Yes, the Enugu case is a very funny one. The issue of authority, how to be able to issue authority is then wise. And that is where I don't really got the investment. So the only issue authority on my certificate is because they invest. And so if they say that the certificate they gave me, the one that I am practicing is fake, it is fake. But you have to prove that. So if the DSSA they investigated like yesterday, at the end of it all, whether we like it or not, the court is what it is. The law is what it is. The law is the law. If at the end of it all, by its own, that is what we have in the court. The essence of having a court is to be able to guide against anarchy, break down law and order. And they need to put things right. If in the course of the investigation, because in the court in Switzerland, I'd be able to look at the evidence because the critical thing in law is what we call evidence. That is what we have. We have what is called the evidence. Everything concerning the law or whatever you bring to court has to be based on evidence. If you don't have enough evidence to be able to prove case, then that is a problem. So if in the eyes of the law, the judge will be able to look at all the argument both from NYC or the DSS from the camp of the governor and say that this young man has an authenticity. That is what it is. If you think that the lower court does not do it, then you have a right of appeal. That was at the court of, that's a high court. They have a right of appeal to put to the court of appeal and subsequently to the Supreme Court. But for what it is now, what the law states is that as far as the court of law has said that that certificate is genuine, that is what it is. Except, you know, that court, the higher court, for case that is the judge. But it's really, like I said, it's funny. It is. Let me tell you. Let me tell you this. Yeah. And that is always the problem most people have. In law, there's a difference between morality and court. Yeah. What most times people feel is morality. The law is different from morality. What you think is right. If it's different from what the court says. So, yeah, morally right. Oh, how can he say that the certificate, he hasn't done it. But you have to come to the court to prove it. And if the court says that is it, then that is what it is. You can say any of that thing. Any of that. Look at what happened with the case of Ms. Yoma or whatever. That young girl that was came up with a jambri sort of. She was saying everything practically, oh no, it's authentic. In fact, that public opinion was almost 80% in her favor. But at the end of it all, Jem was able to prove that she falsified that at the end of it all, she owned up and said yes. But before then, public opinion has always been, oh, they want to victimize a young girl. It's because she's a young girl. She's because of this part of the country she was at. So many people, even the educated people, we did the society believe they were the same. And this small girl, they do that. Oh, she got it. At the end of it all, after the investigation, Jem was able to prove and show that what she had was a fake one that what she was, at the end of it all, everybody kept quiet. Yeah, that's my problem. That is the problem that I'm having right now because Jem had everything that will show that the girl falsified the results. Why couldn't Wayek, if they had this doubt, provide this thing? There are two things that give me concern. It's either that Wayek was right and the courts have done some abracadabra, or Wayek was wrong and why would they be wrong? So it just gives me concern. That's what I'm saying. Not even public opinion this time. The owners of proof is on Wayek, or not on the government. Yeah. The owners of proof, that's what I'm saying. You agree with that, totally agree with you. And in criminal cases, we say that it must be proved beyond reasonable doubt, on the line of that word. That is what the court says. It must be proved beyond reasonable doubt. Anything that leads to doubt that is not proved beyond reasonable doubt, then it cannot be, it cannot vote or so. It is for Wayek, if, sorry, let's not live for Wayek, it's not Wayek, it's NYC, let's miss it up, it's not Wayek. It is NYC. If the NYC was not able to prove beyond reasonable doubt before the judge and before the court, and that is what it is. So once the court has satisfied that, these NYCs that we get, or whatever, that this guy is right, that is what I'm saying. If NYC or another person feels otherwise, you still have the right to vote of appeal. At the end of the court of appeal, you still have the right to vote Supreme Court. And once the Supreme Court's able to give back it on that, that is what it is. If you have any doubt that, you can just appeal to God. Okay, well, it's interesting, really interesting. The law is very dynamic, dynamic thing. Very confusing as well, if you ask me. Very confusing. I don't know if it's the language. That's what it is. It's the voice that asks, that is what he, I'm sure he had that several times. Yeah, yeah. Okay, well, now there is this address that the Labour Party candidate made, a press statement that he made, and said that the Supreme Court breached Nigerian's trust in the judiciary, that's Peter Obie, that's on daily independent. And then he has been replied by the presidency and says that the court does not rule on public opinion, just like you said now. But I don't know. Some of them, okay, the presidency is saying he didn't even have right to do any address because it was a clear court case that has been decided and he shouldn't have even mentioned anything anymore. But Peter Obie did say something concerning the judgment. So what do you say about the back and forth between the federal government and the candidate of the Labour Party in the last presidential election? Just in that is the court where discussing this morning and the court cases as it were. But it is good, you know that in this part of the world we said the court is the last who got the common man, not only the common man, but also the pitch man as it were. The case of the presidential election had been decided. The Supreme Court has given these verdicts and that is where it rests. Just my last statement in my last intervention saying that I'm not satisfied with the Supreme Court. The only other thing you can do is to appeal to court. The only court you can appeal to, that is where it ends. And there must always be an end to litigation in order to that is what we have the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court has given verdicts on that. Whether I would like it or not, whether you agree with them on what it is, what it is. You can now, yes, you are talking about, there's a difference between the law and public opinion. And I also talk about plurality. Yes, the fact is that public opinion does this where the verdicts of the court, where to allow it to some extent, yes, it could. Because the judges are justices, I've spoken to the Supreme Court now, the justice of the Supreme Court are human beings. They live in our society, they see what happens and they really hear they're watching, some of them are watching on TV. As it were, as we're talking, they watch television, they read newspapers, they listen to radio, they also, on social media, so they see public opinion, they see what people expect. The first thing remains that before them, what they're going to deal with is the fact before them. And it's only based on that fact that they can make it to arrive at the judgements. And it also has to be based on the evidence and not on what evidence, evidence, evidence. It is only based on the evidence. Even if the judge knows that what you are saying is wrong or what they are saying, in as part as that did not bring that before that case, the judge is not going to give what you get asked for. Even if it is so, that's what we call the setting into the arena. We don't set into the arena when it comes to law. Our social law, we call it not covering the field. So the judges or justices as it were, will it sound wrong to you? Let me put it this way. If the verdict has been in favor of Mr. Pito B or Artico Abubakar, will they come out to say what they are saying? That is what we ask yourself. If the verdict has been, has given, and Pito B or Artico Abubakar were declared as winners of that election, I'm not just justifying what the justices did or what Supreme Court, I'm just saying as human beings, if the justices of the Supreme Court have said, oh, Artico Abubakar was the winner of the night, and not collaborate. Of course, the Artico Abubakar will come out and hear the Supreme Court, oh, they've done well. That is what we say, they are the last hope of the commandment, so most of them. So the fact is that the Supreme Court have, given their body, whether we like it, what I would rather see, Mr. Pito B, Mr. Artico Abubakar, whoever other contested the election, is to be able to rally around the president as is where, and be able to make sure that we're able to move Nigerian forward. It is the Nigeria that every one of them want to go. It is Nigeria that they want to recite over, and I don't think any one of them want Nigeria to disintegrate. They don't want Nigeria to go into Abdiapower and the rest of it. So whatever it is, we just have been for three years, three and a half years now to go into another election. They can go and prepare for another election. Look at where the sun is on their floors, or where they think that it is, and try to make sure that the government to put their hands together also. Let me state this as running up on this. If Pito B and Artico Abubakar have been together, as you know that Pito B will move away from PDP, if you look at the views that Artico Abubakar and Pito B got, it was more than that of the president. The two, if you put the two together, they would have gotten, probably one of them would have gotten the presidency as it were. But it was PDP that dismantled this popularity, was playing a lot of politics, and was able to give room for the APC, which was very, very unpopular before going to the election because of what president wanted the priority. Most Nigerians were thinking of probably to vote that APC and move on an alternative. But they didn't have that, but the Supreme God has given his right, and that is what it is, irrespective of what they've been, what it says, that is the basis that is where it is. So, Mr. Pito always tried to say what he has said, it is his right, it is constitutional right, he has the right to say what he said, I think we have the right to say what he said, but that wouldn't change anything. So it's not a public opinion issue that has been explained now, and not just about the law, again. Okay, that will be all for this morning. It's kind of what I want to do. Thank you so much for your time this morning. Thank you very much for sending me back to the school this morning. Thanks for reminding me so much since I read the school. It's been a really long time. Yeah, thank you so much. Okay, we've been talking with Mr. Chris Cahinde Wando, member of the Chartered Institute of Obitrators in the UK. He spoke to us from Lagos State here on Off the Price. We're going to take a break, and when we return, we'll be looking at another issue with Mr. Shagun Shapatan. Stay with us.