I think I'm live now. I Didn't pull up the other things everything's right till the last minute here if it wasn't for the last minute I wouldn't get anything done, but hey here. I am welcome to vlog. There's a number 227 and I feel like I did two live shows today because I did the video release of the PF sense versus open sense and we'll see how civil the comments stay because you know people There aren't always civil and these I was laughing. That was someone's Request and comment was will the comments stay civil. I'm like, yeah, I Don't know But let me see. I'm also trying. I've never done stream labs by myself. So this is a slight difference I wanted to try this today because I have ideas of how I want to do things differently in the future and Leave that open Brett Let me share a window actually is it a tab Here we go Share cool, I can throw the comments here that way we can read the comments and we'll figure out how they fit best Yeah, good enough I miss most of the open sense versus P essential watch it tonight and This is one of the cool features This is me reading the comments and me putting the comments on the screen that'll be reading so I can discuss them This is one of the reasons I wanted to try this because I thought this was just kind of cool that stream labs has this option Someone commented. Yes, the other things related Nice that is in 1080. Yes. Thanks, John. It turns out to get things in 1080 also meant changing some more options So I went ahead and update to the latest version of stream labs and updated the options to be able to do that Which is pretty cool So Stream stream yard, I'm seeing stream labs, but yes, it actually is stream yard stream yard calm Just cuz I'm gonna want to know what I'm software. I'm using so stream yard. Nonetheless Oh, all right. Now. This is not going to be a super long Version of vlog Thursday because I actually have an event to go to today but I wanted to test this out today try this and also I didn't have a ton of things to talk about except I'm really just excited about the homelab show and how well that's going We picked up our first sponsor for that. So that's a you know, pretty exciting and also Related to homelab as I'm going to be working on some giveaways We are organizing hardware here at the office and I came up I was finding the right methodology and a big shout out to Wendell from level one tech many of you probably watch Wendell as well and he's just a wealth of knowledge and Great YouTube channel, but I'm going to start doing the giveaway similar to the way they do them over there Love ones by basically posting in the forums of why you want some of the hardware and I will then ship out Inside the continental us some hardware that we have Sometimes things are given to me sometimes things I bought for review that I don't know what to do with but I don't want I'm sitting here. I don't want them just sitting on a shelf somewhere. So I'll do some of the Giveaways that way for you know I would really like them to see in the hands of people who are building your labs who go Hey, I think this would be great. I figured if people take the time to Do the signing up in my forums and posting an arrow wanting the hardware, it'll be a little bit better than just the random put a name in a hat type thing, but One of the other things related to that I see someone says they're upset that is no EU I will see if there's a way I can do some giveaways where I let Amazon take care of it So I'll partner with some people on that I like giving away hard words stuff like that Especially like I said if I can make it helpful the biggest challenge I have when I've done EU stuff years ago in a previous life as I say I Used to just really hate dealing all the customs problems that came with shipping things overseas It's just a pile of paperwork and things like that Which is why there's always so much cost when something has to be exported Yeah, and shipping to the EU is not cheap at all. That's That's just one of the challenges It, you know, I don't mind the small amount of shipping It may take to box up a switch and send it to someone here in United States Whatever, that's probably a $10 shipping fee. But yeah, the price ratchets up substantially when we have to send things to the EU I'm also, you know, you don't really think about this until you ship things internationally I don't understand the addressing systems as well outside the United States They start getting a little different So that one, you know, also means sometimes do you get contacted by things not getting shipped to the right locations? Which, you know, I feel really bad about that. I want things to go where they should to the person who would like the stuff So that's kind of my thoughts on that. Hey, cool. I can shrink myself and make it Do we want to see me or the chat bigger? That's just neat. All right, quit playing with things Um Yeah, that might be something is where I have people pay for shipping so Yeah, that's that is a possibility as well as have something else paid for the shipping I don't know for the most part. I if I focus it on the US the shipping's gonna be less expensive with the exception of if I ever wanted to get rid of a server, but Yeah, nonetheless What else I want to talk about. Oh what we do here and This This is one of those little bit more complex topics that I might do an updated video on Of what all the team here does at Lawrence systems and kind of the process of things I figure I'd ask, you know, is there confusion because sometimes people don't realize that we can be hired for consulting Despite me saying if you want to learn more about me my company head over to Lawrence systems.com If you like to hire short projectors, they hire us button right at the top and then there's a comment down on YouTube Can I hire you for help with a firewall? Sure, yes, and then I reply and send them over to the website, but yes But I may do a little bit more. I still haven't been completely sold on the idea of splitting The channel up into two parts because of the challenges of managing two channels, but it's still on my list I'm trying to really think about how I want to do that Yeah, it just becomes a little bit of the complexities and nuance to making all that work and nuance is my word of the day because I Recorded that video today and said nuance quite a bit So I'm still using it because it's the difference between open sense and PF sense the nuanced difference between these two products Let's see what else do we have in here Please on the e consulting. I'm not sure what that means Let's see. All right now other videos that are coming and this is more of the Back end of what we're doing is yes We still use invoice ninja, but even better than that is I'm working on invoice ninja v5 We haven't switched to it yet.  I call it invoice Ninja comm we're gonna go ahead and share the invoice ninja screen here in a second. Where did that go? Okay? I went behind that screen neat Have you played with password lists yet? What is Password lists Let me Google that real quick What is password lists? all thought oh Duo security, I guess I don't know what it password lists is so I don't know that there's a lot of search results for password lists Am I gonna do an updated connect wise video and I'm assuming you mean the Screen connect Connect wise control I've done a video on it and it hasn't changed enough since I've done the video for this if I How do I is there a quick way to switch? Not really. I have to actually stop the share So if we stop and then we share again share screen We'll share this whole screen there we go This is the connect wise control. I have a video on this. I did and my connect wise control videos if we go over here to I Did one it was done roughly a year ago. It hasn't changed much in the last year So I would say probably not going to do another video on it because there's not enough things that have changed There we go. So we'll go back to sharing the chat Share screen chrome tab Share there we go So no, I don't really have a plan to do a updated video on it because it does. Yeah Nothing. Nothing really new has changed with it password list authentication screen Secret double octopus. I don't know what secret double octopus is. Nope. Ask it in the forums. Maybe I'll look it up I'm not aware of it. Do I have a hot sauce of the day? kind of Someone sent us this and so let me you know what actually this is kind of cool. Did I take a photo of it? Maybe I did not I Thought I did Nope, I did not anyways We don't have a hot sauce of the day. We did get ships some hot sauce But I didn't grab it and bring it in here to my office. So yeah, sorry Sam, thank you very much for the donation and hello from the UP of Michigan Awesome up there way up there in the UP, right? It was Farley is pretty far for me. What meant to be best to image your PFs installed to another disc Or use the dollars by yourselves. Oh, yes, I do like Fago occasion. I don't drink much soda But Fago rock and rye man that I grew up on that so For those, you know, Fago is a local company for soda Anyways, a real world benefit to PFsense and SD versus HD not really I can't think of a real benefit to doing it that way For the most part PFsense it's arbitrary to load it and then while as soon as you load it upload your XML file So you just reload it on whatever hard drive you want. I mean SSD I think it's gonna be better because it's gonna boot faster MVME is a step better than that But if you have PFsense and you don't want it on the drive It's on just reload it grab the XML file back it up before you reload it in case that's not obvious But just in case make sure you have a backup when you load the XML file It'll just go so you don't really need to image the drive or clone it the act everything's in the XML file for The way PFsense works. So that's my go-to solution. We never back up PFsense We only back up the XML XML file PFsense We never do I should say a hard drive backup of PFsense, but thank you for the donation. Oh, let's see here Yeah, I screen connect I thought you mentioned on Twitter not new not recently I like I said, I did the video before on it and It hasn't changed it if you know we've been updating it I mean the big significant change even for us was that we moved away from using it on Linux moving to the Running it on a Windows server That's just the nature of things because they quit really updating that so yeah Can't can't really say much else from there. So What else do we have let's actually Talk about this and I want to log into it before I share the screen There we go alright We refresh Get the latest version because there's lots of updates happening right now This is something I mentioned is Have you ever used as you sure they sent me a tube a never heard from me for hopefully they are decent The ASU the ASU store is something I think Wendell reviewed it. I don't know much about it So it's nothing I've ever used so Not something I'm particularly familiar with a lot of those companies, you know and because I know you're as you're building your channel congratulations on the milestone you just passed but one of the things about the As you grow in YouTube you'll find and this is where we get stuff You'll find these companies just starts when they have your address especially just start mailing your stuff and it just shows up and That's like their product idea try to try to get you to review it We don't even review everything that comes to us because I don't have to do with some of it Because it's not it's outside of what we even do but yeah matter of fact That's kind of how we got a bunch of 3d printers Updated video about point-to-point and put some one-to-point. Yeah, I probably should do an updated one. We still do those we I just has it's been a while and I haven't done an updated video on it as a topic, but yeah, they're The interface changed a little bit on the new Unify. They kind of did some revisions So maybe it's worth doing an updated video on it. I I don't know I don't know how much of demand there is for it It's kind of a hit-and-miss because they're not I mean other than looking at it if interface are not substantially different than the previous ones We did It's a wonderful problem to have that just chef those shows up Ever use Microsoft Windows e3 vda. Nope But I will share because what we're gonna do is stop the screen share and share Screen is it I? Don't know which invoice ninja it is. So hold on. There's more than one here that one Gotta be careful. You have too many windows open which one you're sharing There we go. This is what the new invoice ninja looks like and I will be doing some updated videos on this This is my non-production system. So in case you're wondering this is our Special client law firm that we have set up in here do we cheat him and how? And this is my demo data and it's gonna be kind of fun messing with all of this of how we set this up how we get all This to work and there's a little bit different How it works is different than the way it worked over in the previous version of invoice ninja So we haven't migrated to it yet because part of the learning curve and part of the production that we have for Getting all of this thing all these things set up The Challenge is right now. We have roughly 26,000 invoices that we have to import from the Current using working v4 invoice ninja to the v5 We also have close to 6000 clients in all of our recurring invoices and everything else now those features all work inside of invoice Ninja v5, but importing a production system as anyone knows especially when it's financially related Yeah, that can be a daunting task So definitely it's going to be kind of a fun thing But once I do this because a few people have commented on my older invoice ninja videos going Hey, the version 5 is out for invoice ninja When are you gonna do a video on it and I would really want to do it sooner than later But it is a careful transition because of the scale of our You know production system that we're using and billing all over clients and I want to just be Absolutely sure that we have not low lost anything or caused any particular problems by doing that migration So it's like a slow transition I don't mind or have any fear for moving virtualization servers firewalls Or storage servers, but when it comes to moving my accounting server That's what keeps the money flowing here And I need to make sure the money stays flowing and then we don't have mistakes because there's so many quotes and Things in process kind of like data in flight while there's processes of things in flight inside of here So it just one of those very more careful Careful and calculated ways for doing that transition Are we still using bit warden? Absolutely Love bit warden. It's still my go-to password manager still self-hosted updates are going fine. No problems with bit warden so that's a You know, I just did a recent video on it I did at least one update video and I also was a guest on my friend Pete's video for bit warden as well And there we go put the comments back over here Do we cheat him and how yes, that is definitely a great name if you're not familiar That actually was the law the mythical law firm that sponsored car talk If you are familiar with that an older radio show that would have today been a wonderful podcast But still you still fun to listen to that old show Sorry, I'm late to the party, but what invoice them system. Are you showing we use invoice ginger the open source? invoicing platform we've been using it since 2018 and Definitely a wonderful product. I'm really happy with it. It's done It's done good by us and working with the dev team has been pretty awesome I forgot that's actually why I was gonna title this was I was gonna start doing a breakdown of it But next to next week. I'll do a breakdown of invoice ginger and soon we'll be using Version 5 we currently use version 4 so once we Migrate over to the new version I'll start doing videos on it because I know there's at least a you know an audience of people interested in that Thanks for all the good advice and communicating a way that's even a new we can understand I'm giving a tingle a rip this weekend looking forward to learning more about firewalls awesome Eric best of luck on that Definitely fun to dive into and learn firewalls How does bit warden work? This is one of those things and you can only do so much How does it work if I remember your staff leaves was stopping them from taking an exporter passwords? Nothing That's called insider threat. You do everything you can to mitigate it you vet the people you hire But the reality is if they need access to the passwords They will have a methodology by which they can get those passwords out and if you think it's something that's easy to do I have an Edward Snowden to point at for you. So that's the NSA what they think of that. It's really really difficult Anything that people have access to they also have access to take an export any plans for the weekend or Monday Yeah, not much. I'm pretty I'm pretty boring on that to my usual, you know play on my motorcycle or whatever And play with technology that's usually end up doing playing with servers and all those other fun things so You got a I see someone said the Handles the insider threat. Yeah Insider threat always a fun stuff Tutorial of Microsoft Bob is a baddie for fool's joke. Yeah, maybe maybe. I don't know might be fun I even I never actually was a user of Microsoft Bob. I remember when it existed, but I never really did use it Let's see what else here Could use something like cyber arc I Don't use cyber arc. So I don't know not cyber arc is not a product. I'm familiar with Lockdown viewing to IP addresses. Yeah, that's absolutely something, you know Well, you know our bit warden for example is locked down to only be loaded and work on Systems we approved and they have to VPN into our self-hosted instance of bit warden So I mean we've it's not like I can log in at home at bit warden They have to log on an authorized machine with their VPN in order to then authorize bit warden on there We used a bit warden enterprise. So it's not like it's easily accessible without a work computer. So there's also that Have I had a chance to check out the new Unify and VR Pro not yet. I don't remember. I think I mentioned my staff to order it. I can't remember I don't know if a decision was made So it's no the answer the short answer is no, I don't we should probably get one soon I don't know if they were out of stock or if we tried ordering one. I actually don't do the ordering I have delegated that to other people here. I suggest things that we should buy though But that's that's kind of where that stops Bars that goes There you go Our techs go onsite and have to be on client Wi-Fi in order to view passwords for the client Um, yeah, once again you mitigate that Whoops you mitigate that with a VPN for going onsite and having access to thing I see people saying it's currently out of stock. So Yeah, the new MVR and that may be what happened You know, we put an order in for one and it's just in the queue Matter of fact, we have a lot of things when it comes to the unified stuff because the cameras are on back order the little I Got one because it's like one per person The little Wi-Fi camera they have which I think is a great product but The unfortunately it's hard to find on they're just out of stock on it everywhere I can't tell if unify is seeing more demand than they can supply or if they're victims of the supply chain problem in general because a lot of people do have that as a A real issue so to speak of being able to Um get things the car industry right here in Detroit is hit hard with the supply chain issues Um, yeah getting things It's funny, you know a couple weeks ago. You had to snipe a 48 port switch from unify and it was out of stock after my order completed Yeah, it's it's really It's tricky and this is hitting other products like I said, so it's more than just Unify but the problem with unify is they had some supply chain issues and hiccups prior to the supply chain backlog that we're seeing right now the other thing of course because of the Chia mining has become a problem with hard drive shortages everywhere and hard drive prices going out so much so Um, sir, you know this question comes up and I'm going to work soon with 45 drives on this as a topic Any future plans of migrating data storage to distributed file systems such as seph? No, it's not something we need to do It's such a niche use case and it's uh, it's a very enterprise use case So yes, if I was trying to store data at the level of of a massive enterprise It makes sense. It makes less sense with the way we're doing it Um There's times to use it and there's times to not and I want to get the people from 45 drives We'll co-opt a video at some point where we talk about when you should and when it's just a fun experiment To play within your home lab, but a completely impractical one at that This is going to be fun. Glad you put out the pf sense versus open sense video earlier I use pf sense but meaning to play with open sense just out of curiosity Uh, it felt slightly more aimed at home users I would say open sense is a good product, you know summary. I did a video on this recently You can go watch for the full details. Um, I just think they made it easier by putting an interface on there but it doesn't I don't know. It's not so it's not that much of a compelling difference between that and pf sense. So Um, yeah, that's just kind of a problem Uh, some of the things you can buy. Oh, this is actually so So just to clarify this there are some things Uh, unify things you can get on amazon, but you have to pay extra for the convenience. No You're paying the extortion fees what people are doing is buying them from ubiquity directly because they know There's a limited supply and then reselling it on amazon for a markup. So you're finding people who are you know buying it off the site and marking it up over on the amazon site for sale So it's not ubiquity or a normal reseller doing it. It's usually someone just making margin on it I think they're doing the same thing at ebay Yes, I am registered for the zen community summit.  So yes, I'm aware of the zen summit Uh, yes the sensei I commented when I did my Open sense review sensei sensei someone told me it was pronounced. I don't know sunny valley networks sunsay They offer this filtering system and people seem to like it. I don't know I don't use it but it is a feature that is exclusive to Open sense and not available in pf sense. So there's that Yeah, someone said just like GPUs and everything And uh, that is in reference to all the things being out of stock or overpriced on amazon and ebay If you can get a hand if you get your hands on one of these things that are in high demand You can make a lot of money selling it back on ebay or wherever else you like to sell it. So An experience of building a bridge bid for unify. Yes, we've been sold quite a few of them They work so plenty of experience my staff. We've got them. We've gone island to shore So we uh, if you look at one of my projects and that project still exists and still is up and running from several years ago That goes from an island to the mainland uh for site to site Hey, tony. Thank you very much for the donation and uh, appreciate the shout out here. So awesome. Thank you Uh, I love making these videos. I'm really happy all of you enjoy them So when now this is a fair point, uh, there was a lot of problems with supporting The returns if you get something from amazon that was from ubiquity So it became confusing and let me explain why The people who were going and buying from the resellers would buy like a five pack of something but then individually sell it So now you have a person registered with a reseller Buys from reseller who bought from ubiquity who bought a five pack who then Individually sold the five pack. So trying to chase down where that order came from became confusing I also heard but cannot prove that there were several gray market items on there So you would find people selling stuff that was supposed to be returned or broken and maybe gray market Uh That we're putting it on amazon and then ubiquity you go. No, this should not have been out there I'm fuzzy on that. I heard it in the Forums, but I couldn't prove it or at least didn't seem credible to me But either way there is a confusion level that came and this is one of the reasons I believe because ubiquity is not the most You know forthcoming about how they're doing things. I believe that's why they want to really do direct sales So they can control the pipeline to do warranty type replacements. So yeah um What firewall do you use recommend to your clients to use in small business? Either pf sense or untangle. Those are our go-to firewalls for most small businesses So hopefully that helps on that answer that question comes up a lot There's a reason in I just did the recent firewall 2021 review video It comes down frequently to Untangle because they want the filtering or pf sense because they just need a basic firewall to get things done And it checks the boxes that make the client happy Uh pf sense is still our go-to firewall for most things But there are plenty of circumstances where we start using untangle especially when people go I I need all this monitoring. I need this reporting. I need this traffic listing. Etc. Etc. Those things are usually You know become fairly important um Would you prefer a bb bridge or giga beams? I haven't really researched myself my staff picks these and install them I haven't actually done any of the site to site installs in a while So I don't know of the recent product offerings, which one would be the best one So that'll be just kind of an honest answer. I have not myself done much of the planning lately on those I know they have a few different products out. So uh There I I have not had any problem with any of the big witty site to site products I actually found them all quite reliable and good So I don't know which but whatever one and this is it becomes tricky because What you big witty does because they know there's demand for an older product They'll introduce a superseding better product That may cost roughly the same and people go, which one should I get? And they are used to using the old one. So they still buy it, but they Then see the new one and going should I get it? I usually prefer the new ones But then the other problem is is it has proven out in the field Uh, and now you have a kind of a debate, you know, do you go with the one you've used before and you're familiar with the interface? Or not that the interface is substantially different or do you go with the new model? They just released that seems to have slightly better specs for about the same price so um If you're not going to use sentinel one then use the built-in microsoft defender Uh, sentinel one is solid sentinel one is what we use But if you're not using it set I think the one that microsoft comes with is actually really good defender went from being the joke and came out on top of all these other av systems a matter of fact defender scores really high on detection tests and It's actually become a pretty solid product what is built into microsoft So that's my go-to for actually like most home users and things like that Um, but if you're you know, if you're the msp side. Yeah, the edir system from sentinel one is going to be Just a much better product. It gives you so much more. It's more than an antivirus The I've done. I think one video where I dove in depth of how we use it for you know threat research But I may do more. I'm I actually just reached out to some people at sentinel one To work with them. Maybe I'm doing a couple more in-depth things and set up a demo account Yeah, going with new has a typically longer support cycle When you're choosing any product, that's generally true if you're choosing site to site. That's probably a good Benchmark right there to do I'm going to give this podcast or podcast This is well live show 10 more minutes because I do have an event to go yet Um, any plans to a video about open wrt? Not at all I I I have zero plans to do open wrt videos I don't have a use case for it With pf sense and some of their basic harbinger being so inexpensive or the fact that you can run pf sense on a Low powered use computer. I don't have a use case for open wrt If you want to use it. I know it's still popular project. I don't see any reason not to use it I just don't see a reason to do a video on it Um, let's see 154 people watching with only 39 likes. Yes, if we could Bash away at that like button and you know about in these last 10 minutes of the show here that'd be great Helps the youtube algorithm. No other people should watch this video Oh, let's see Small issuer construction clients using ipads of jobs to access adobe from our center stack due to reliable internet Do you have a construction internet devices or advice session? No sitting? There's two options one We have clients are doing this in the construction space They go with lte, but they don't use ipads. They have lte verizon that's been their go-to solution Other time we set up temporary internet at job sites Because that's an option, you know run internet to one of the The buildings the temporary construction buildings on there and go from there so That's a couple options for you But usually the lte option is the go-to with we have more than one customer doing that They got android tablets with lte through their phone provider and yeah Yeah, I think this is a good point by shawen here I always think of open wt as viable if all you have is a deport department store big box store type of router That's how I feel about it. Like if you only have that it's a great tinkering project for it I've you know for years and years ago. I did play with it on like one of the original Linksys boxes and that's cool. It was novel, but you know, it doesn't Really have all the advanced features you're going to get with something like pf sense and that's why it's Not as interesting I would say it is worth the effort of changing the admin user on pf sense It's part of the process we do is disable admin on it Probably I should do some secure best practices video It's one less piece of information people have of what will name the admin user for that particular instance And uh, this is even something we do on wordpress, you know, you don't use normal user names and things like that It's not really the best security, but it's at least one more layer have a good complex password And uh, then swap out so you don't have the same just generic admin on there It's uh, yeah any little bit of security The goal is with security is layers defense in depth and make them work for them being the threat actors Make them work for any inch they get into your network. So oh cool I'm in and I have access to the web interface for pf sense.  Yeah, that was the old one. I I don't know. I know there's some different variations of product between open wrt dwrt I'm far removed from it So it's not something i'm particularly familiar with right now Been a while since I looked at that project. So it's the same thing with rooting my phone That was something I did a long time ago and I don't do as much anymore It kind of like once I went to the pure android experience on some of the google pixel phones like I have here I suddenly didn't really need to root my phone to make it do some of the things that it worked. So yeah Uh, I remember I had an asus router that ran tomato, which I thought was pretty cool Um, I don't know that I would call a free IPA a alternative to windows ad It is an authentication server that much is true It is not a replacement for ad because you can't put it in where ad is required. So Yes, um failed to um Anyways on the free the free ipa. It's a neat project. I think it's cool, but it's not necessarily the option It's not an ad replacement. It's a authentication server that can run to authenticate things But you can't if the if the erp in line of business applications that a client has need The uh active directory you can't say well, let me just drop free ipa in here instead So I don't like calling my alternative because that would be misleading Can you load fail to ban on pf sense? No because it's already loaded.  So serious question In Star Trek it's unclear if operations engineer responsible for it related tasks. Hmm uh I boy that when it comes to the it task, it's it's very different when it comes to um The the way things were probably going to be handled in the future I don't even know the jobs and the hats are going to be uh the same then so Yes, there's ways to connect windows to free apa, but it's not a drop in replacement for a line of business application That requires uh windows active directory That's kind of my point. There's when someone says hey, I have this Here we're going to use this enterprise sales program and it requires direct talking to an active directory server They usually don't mean an alternative to active directory. So that's That's why I don't think of them as complete drop in replacements Now samba has ways of emulating some of the active directory, but it's still not the same as actual active directory Best practice in a hot sauce video. Yeah That would be um best practice on how to eat hot sauce. Maybe maybe we'll do a video like that Fire that we'll we'll talk about our fire. You know, I I didn't do it for April fools But I thought it might be kind of fun to review our firewall as in our wall of fire We have at the office of all the hot sauces. We do call it the firewall. So, you know, it seems kind of entertaining to do that Um a couple more minutes here. Is there any final questions before I cut this live stream off is uh, and don't worry There's plenty of other content to watch uh, because you know, we have that open sense video and that'll you know No one has to even ask that open sense anymore. I have a video about it. We're what do you think about it? So I just did that. So Um How to make a good pizza with tom, uh, I usually order it Yes, the firewall That's uh, definitely what we call it. Let's see burgers or brats for more real day weekend Hmm That's tough steak probably steak pf sauce versus open sauce that I like there we go. That's definitely um I like that all together so definitely, um A good idea for a april fools video will be pf sauce versus open sauce Smash some algorithm for the smash the like button for the algorithm for sure Should you install wi-fi 5 or wait for wi-fi 6? I you know, I never think of wi-fi as a speed thing If I want something fast, I hardline it so i'm not that excited for wi-fi 6 despite people clamoring for it I know well the other reason for wi-fi 6 is it can support more simultaneous connections but I don't know speed is never the issue with all my wi-fi devices This connectivity is what I care about first and speed second and even then it's it's a low low second because You know, if I play a game or something like that. I always hardline that Um You said ibm and red hat any list are they not now the same Yes, kind of ibm owns them, but they still are somewhat separate entities. So Um, I know I said ibm being a contributor ibm's been contributing to linux since before they bought red hat So that's more of my reference of a historical side, but technically yes They do owning uh ibm owns red hat now. So How often does office 365 go down?  It's a group of them not all of them We don't know like the unlucky few that seems to get hit and I don't know that's just it's a problem And it's annoying if you have enough clients and enough people I should say Some will be affected by one of the outages and they just seem to this whole year has been a dumpster fire for office 365 There were just like back-to-back outages in april I think there were a few back in march as well It's just been a lot of them for the office 365 platform. Sorry microsoft figured out How do you separate uh yourself from carrier issues versus network issues versus uh hardware issues You just do you you go through and test each piece of it till you figure out where the problem is Um, it's just troubleshooting It's it's going through the logical process of each thing until you figure out what thing doesn't respond or what thing doesn't work And when there's no connectivity at all that becomes that much more challenging Usually you got to have a backup connection and come in through the secondary connection to figure out how that works Uh What's the best way to back up zen orchestra vm when it's running on the same server when you only have one virtual host So I don't have another node to run it on What do you mean back it up just use the backup in zen orchestra zen orchestra can back up vms back up the vm That is the zen orchestra vm. So that was probably way Um, but that's why I can describe to do that Oh What software using to break up comments this is stream yard and uh, we were started using it for the podcast for the homelab show and I Once you have an account I can use it for other things So it seemed like kind of a fun way to do this. It also lets me add more people in Which is kind of cool. So a matter of fact, um, one of the things I think it will do Let me go and do this Um And pull this up. I think I can even Double myself. So let me try to be too Where did that go? Does it work? I think it works on my phone. I'm gonna try this because this is something I would want to do is go All right So Here's what my office looks like That's cool that I can just kind of switch between devices. This is not reason I'm in the stream yard So I can switch between devices. Whoops, how do I exit out? That's bad Won't stop. There we go. Good wooden clothes Oh, that was bad anyways, uh, two times is too many started echoing. Um, no the Vm Does not need to shut down No, uh, you would you would need a zen orchestra to restore a zen orchestra vm Not really you can actually do it without because it creates an ova file. So you can import it back in Um, so you could if you keep the ova file somewhere you could pull that ova file back I think it's ova. What are xva the xva file you can pull the xva file back into zen orchestra From the command line and Get it back up and running So there are ways to do it. Yes The echo All right before I break the echo again and uh cause everyone's dogs to go crazy I'm gonna end this show. So thank you very much for joining Looking forward to all the comments on the open sense versus pf sense for those of you that have been asking that question Um, I'm probably gonna check the comments as soon as I get off here because I'm sure there's um Lots of comments in there and that maybe The debate and arguing is going to be fun because you know it's youtube and that's how things go But once again, thanks for everyone. We're stopping by and see you next week or sometime in between with a bunch of other videos That I'll probably get posted. All right. Take care


Kiol yw'r cwtau. Cwestiwch ar gallu'r galwyr i'w pwn o waithetw twch y mahi, hefregistra o'r hoed i'w teimlo'r caitiach i'w twyd, colwyr i'r fawr i'w twch yn goa, tennig o'r twch y toa. Time-based media artworks deliver some of the most immediate, powerful and immersive narratives in our collection. They're contemporary and they continue to evolve. We want to ensure that we're preserving these works and their stories for our audiences' current and future. I want to talk to you today about the journey that Christchurch Art Gallery has embarked upon towards a better standard of care for our collection. I hope my talk will both be an introduction to but also illustrate the scope and complexity of our project. I want to express our team's enthusiasm for looking after time-based media artworks and express the gratitude we feel to a number of colleagues both here in New Zealand and internationally for their passion and expertise. This project wouldn't be possible without the work of other institutions, notably the Art Gallery of New South Wales in Sydney and Tate in London, who have done so much to establish best practice in this field and to generously share their expertise. Finally, I hope that I might connect with some of you to inspire and to learn from you as glam digital advocates. So what is time-based media art? Tate neatly describes it as art that is dependent on technology and has a durational dimension. A durational dimension might also be described as art that unfolds over time. The technology we talk about might be audio, film, video, slide or computer-based technologies. So a typical example of a time-based media artwork might be a single-channel digital video work, but more complex works might involve multiple technologies in media and both sculptural or tangible artwork components as well as time-based and variable ones. To illustrate, here are three works from the Gallery's collection. Mary Shannon's Car Stories is a single-channel video shot through a car windscreen as the artist drives with voiceover narrating the history of all the cars she's ever owned. The work can either be displayed as a projection or on a monitor. Wayne Newell's Alone Time is described as an obsessively ordered and subversively witty reimagining of the artist's own studio and is an example of an installation work with several time-based media components and over 50 tangible objects and a number of variable aspects dependent on the exhibition. The work is soon to go on loan for Wayne's 2020 show at the Partica Museum. Finally, Harren and Aribari's work, The Hedge, is an early software-based digital projection made in 2003. If you make noises in front of the projection, the leaves and the hedge gently fall, forming different patterns depending on the duration and volume of the noises. Afterwards, when the gallery is quiet again, the leaves reassemble themselves as they were before. So the project we embarked upon earlier this year had as its core objective to survey and preserve our time-based media art collection. But because of the nature of time-based media art, it involves all aspects of their care. Acquisitions procedures, cataloging, legal documents, storage both physical and digital, documentation, display and installation, and conservation and preservation. It's a collaborative project with both registrars like myself, conservators, exhibition designers and technicians, the Council's IT department, our curators and external experts. This is definitely an ongoing project, and by its very nature we recognise it will be a forever project. Best practices will keep changing as fast if not faster than the technology that supports these works, and the works will need much more active management than traditional objects. I think an important question to ask is, why are we only just looking at this collection now? Firstly, it's a fast-growing collection. The gallery started collecting time-based media artworks in 2003. We have 33 artworks out of a total collection of about 7,000 artworks, but almost half of that collection of 33 artworks has been collected in the last five years, and it's a collection in high demand. 50% of those works are due to go on display within the year. Next, as I mentioned in my introduction, a number of institutions globally are already leaders in this field and have done vast amounts of work to establish best practices and standards. So although the gallery is late to the game, we saw that we have the opportunity to learn from others here. Rather than being discouraged by our lack of expertise and existing policies, we've embraced the possibility of learning from the best. In particular, we indebted to the Art Gallery of New South Wales, whose fantastic symposium, Towards a Digital Future, we were able to attend in Sydney in June this year. At home, New Zealand Museum and Galleries, Light to Papa and Auckland Art Gallery, are also well into their own work, and we are benefiting from our relationships with them and hoping to forge new ways of sharing information. Lastly, we need to act urgently. We know that many of the issues these collection faces are time-sensitive. They only get worse with time, and we're understanding that although we have limited time and resources at the gallery, doing something is better than doing nothing. The challenges that this collection faces are largely due to the fact that our existing systems, policies and procedures just don't fit. In almost every aspect of the care of time-based media art, a new way of working is needed. Artworks are often catalogued inadequately and inconsistently. We don't have legal paperwork to suit. We're often not sure how to display them without re-consulting the artist. They're being stored inadequately. Many are at risk of or already subject to obsolescence, and we don't have the specialist knowledge of how to preserve or conserve them. If that sounds daunting, then yes it is, but they also prove to be some of the most dynamic and exciting artworks to work with, artworks that keep changing and evolving by their nature. The more problems we come across, the more questions we often have to answer, but the more we're learning about the works. To try and give you an insight into what some of these challenges really look like and what, albeit small steps, we're taking in the right direction to better manage the collection, I'm going to take you on a tour of one of our current exhibitions at Christchurch Art Gallery. Ferico Brilliant explores the many roles light can play in the making and experiencing of art. The exhibition has been on display since May and runs until February. Does that sound gone off? Is it a shame? Oh, I'm sorry about that. There's a lovely little video there highlighting the exhibition of Ferico Brilliant at the Collection, which includes both time-based media artworks and more traditional ones. It is available on the gallery's YouTube page, so hopefully you can find a way to see it later. One of the first artworks you come in to come across in this show is a video work by Australian artist duo David Haynes and Joyce Hinterding. We purchased the artwork four years ago in 2015, but we hadn't displayed the work until this show. At acquisition we've received a master copy, shown here, on an artist signed USB carrier. Collection works for exhibition are normally condition checked weeks if not months ahead of exhibition so any problems can be identified. This work was only investigated days ahead of time when our conservators came to make an exhibition copy of the work from the master for the technicians who are installing the show. Since at acquisition we had no time-based media specific acquisition procedure, we dealt with this work much in the way a painting or a work on paper might be handled. We'd cited the carrier, we'd taken the details from the outside and noted them on our collection management system and the USB had been placed into storage. When we viewed the work though we realised that the files were corrupt, a pixelated band appeared across the file which you can see here. No one could remember viewing the work before so we weren't 100% sure it wasn't supposed to be there. There was nothing on file and we didn't describe what to expect, no physical description of what one looked at when viewing the work. Had we done something to the file when we'd opened it and copied it. Luckily it was the inaugural outing of our newly purchased right blocker, a crucial piece of time-based media art conservation equipment that protects the original carrier as your access files upon it. So we were confident that wasn't the case. There was nothing for it but to contact the artists and hope they could help. Luckily despite the fact that they were travelling to the cities, they had access to an exhibition copy of the work and they were able to send us a file in time. So what are we doing differently now to try and avoid these kinds of issues in the future? Well we're implementing procedures first to condition check works. We've set up a time-based media lab, a dedicated area within our conservation lab to condition check, view, make copies of and temporarily store time-based media artworks. We treat them as artworks. They have their own little space, we handle them with gloves, we track them as we might do an artwork on our database. We use that right blocker I mentioned and we create a series of standard metadata reports about the work. So we have a sort of idea of what they look like at a fixed point of time in respect of data. We're also setting acquisition requirements at that point of intake to the gallery. We're working directly with artists to specify we need a master, an exhibition, a viewing copy. We're telling them what our ideal maths carriers and sizes might be. Sometimes they have very strong ideas about what their artwork is going to be but more often than not we're finding that they're open to these sort of suggestions to help their work be preserved within our collection. And we're making preservation copies. We're getting permission from the artists via a preservation licence agreement to take copies of the original master files and we're making a validated copy using some software called Bagger that can be checked for corruption in the future. This is Kentari Yamada's horizontal number one. It consists of a plank of wood leant against a wall, a perspex shelf onto which images of sunsets from around the world are projected. Here's a detail of those sunsets projected through the perspex shelf so the viewer sees them from standing in front and crouching down to view the perspex. Made in 2008, the technology that supports this work is already obsolete. Behind the wooden plank is a DVD player connected to a customized LCD monitor whose screen sits flush with the rear of the perspex allowing the image to be projected on the shelf. When we carried out pre-exhibition condition checks of this work because there were after all tangible objects here so we were in somewhat more familiar territory we were concerned with the stability and safety of that customization. If you can see from the image the monitor has been stripped of its casing to make a truly flat screen which wasn't otherwise available to the artist in 2008 and we had concerns about how this would stand up to ten months of display in a public space. We also wondered if new technology could be used to achieve the desired effect. There was nothing on file again to suggest that the technology was variable or not considered an integral part of the work by the artist but when we communicated with him that he would be happy for us to substitute newer technology for display. So for our current installation we've chosen a slimline tablet and a brightside media player instead to do the same job. Artist and curator were happy with the result. What are we doing differently to anticipate these sorts of issues in the future especially in circumstances where we may no longer be able to talk to the artist. Gaining a deeper understanding of the artwork ideally at the point of acquisition is crucial. In this instance, ascertaining whether or not the hardware elements of an artwork have a conceptual or aesthetic importance in the artwork was critical. But in other artworks understanding what elements of the work would be provided by the artist and what elements of the work the gallery may need to fabricate or source could be key. To that end we're going to start using an artist questionnaire. By asking artists a range of questions phrased in different ways we want to try and tease out a more robust understanding of their intentions for the work. Example questions might be are elements intended to be fabricated or sourced with each display is the role of equipment purely functional or does it have a conceptual or aesthetic significance? In case of equipment obsolescence is it acceptable to replace vintage equipment with newer components? Is there an expected lifespan of the work? This is Ruben Patterson's Ruben Patterson's work Te Putahitanga o Rehua and it highlights some of the complexities of actively cataloging time-based media art in particular the limitations of our existing procedures for accessioning work on our collections management system and via that system sharing them with the public via our wall labels publications and website. The work is created from multiple layers of cut out and reorganised drawings that are scanned and composited or kaleidoscoped into a digital animation software programme and for our Erica exhibition projected onto a screen prepared with an artist-specified glitter. It's a work that's in both Christchurch Art Gallery and Te Papa's Collections and here is how it appears on our collection website. Our entry exemplifies some problems we've previously had capturing time-based art time-based media art. They vary with many of our records due to a lack of any applied standard. We've cataloged the medium of the artwork as the tangible component we received at the time of acquisition, a DVD. There's no mention of a digital animation, a projection, let alone the glitter surface that was projected onto for this iteration. Neither is it categorised as time-based media work at all, useful perhaps if you want to look at other like works in the collection. We haven't captured any duration so nothing to tell the public how long the video is, that it plays continuously or that it's silent or that the size of the projection can be variable. The location is shown as under display in the gallery. Useful for the visiting public but not very useful for our collections team who need to know where the master files are stored or that any associated accessories such as the leftover glitter are stored. Finally the images that we've chosen going back one the images are stills of the artwork chosen with the artist to best represent the work, a standard choice for a single channel video work but limiting. We aim to implement a system to record all this information and consistently in the future so that both our public and our curators, registrars, conservators and technicians can all make sense of what we have. In addition we'll be recording accurate metadata information such as file size, software, used, aspect ratio, format etc. Information which doesn't yet fit anywhere in our more traditional collection management system. I'd be really interested to hear at the end of the talk how you think we could better represent time-based media art online. The last artwork I'm going to talk to you about is one of our newest time-based media artworks and one of the most challenging for us. This work by Daniel von Sturmer generously gifted to the gallery in 2017 is a site-specific animated light installation. So site-specific in fact that our version is named for us and can be configured by the artist to work in any of our gallery spaces. I wish you could have seen the video because it really would have shown how this works that the robotic light, bottom right is programmed by the artist to pick out highlight and illuminate various aspects and details of the gallery's architecture. So it kind of scans the room and picks out sprinkler head, the light fixing cupboard, the skirting, a big circle on the wall and it moves around continuously and with a sort of degree of humour almost as it picks out the different elements. I would love to. I've got a video that if the file should be there as well. We uploaded it. It just played the first two seconds. I tried twice. No, it's slide number nine. Can we look on the? Maybe in that case the video is captured too. Never mind. I will put the link to it on my profile on the schedule later. Thank you for trying. Oh, thank you. The plants received acquisition for this work included a robotic light, an iPad with preloaded software and a set of go bows or stencils through which the light shines in different patterns on the walls. Some of the many challenges of this work include installation and lifespan since we understand the work to be on the artists so since we understand the work to be on the artists own interpretation of a space Daniel has come and there we go. Daniel has to come and program the work in whichever gallery it's exhibited whenever we exhibit it. Does it have any lifespan beyond his ability to travel and execute the work? Could he program he could he pre-program certain spaces perhaps but even that would be limited to the current gallery layout or even the lifespan of the building currently in habit. Documenting the work was also challenging. Video clips definitely give a better impression but even that is difficult because there's no one angle that you could video the entire totality of the work from so how would we achieve that? Could we take a 3D video of some kind could we use a 3D model and of course the costs in all the above need to be understood acquiring and maintaining a work like this is very expensive. There's also issues around software and obsolescence and hardware and obsolescence. The light is programmed with an industry leading lighting software the kind use for theatre and events is this crucial to the work or when that becomes unsupported could we use another technology, Ditto the iPad that this is all managed from at the moment and what about the robotic light is the aesthetic look of that light and the subtle but atmospheric whirring noise that it makes also crucial to the work. We don't have the answers yet and in fact we are only starting to look at this work with the artist to answer them. That artist questionnaire will be a starting point for us but we know that Daniel doesn't necessarily have the answers either. So what we are trying to embrace here are two key concepts of time-based media art collections management. Firstly conservation through insulation and secondly the gallery as collaborator. Conservation through insulation acknowledges that it's only through displaying these artworks that we're learning about them in a way that allows us to start to preserve them. With Daniel's work it's that broadly unlooked at and unconsidered for two years before display and that Hayneson hindering work I showed you earlier was about four years. Often in exhibition driven institutions like ours collection work is deprioritised so we are making the time with exhibitions not just to make do for display but to aim to identify and record the problems and ideally resolve those questions. And that's where having a team a collaboration between conservation and registration, designers, technicians and curators has been key as a group of people happy to discuss and brainstorm on these challenging artworks. In recognising the gallery as collaborator we acknowledge our role and not just the care of but the life of these works and in particular the knowledge we hold as an institution and as individuals. So we're building in processes to have debrief meetings and complete installation or iteration reports. These are a collaborative affair with lots of technical information and they aim to document decision making around all display decisions. I hope I've demonstrated that appropriate time based media art management is a complex challenge for any institution one that often feels like it poses more questions than it answers but without a dedicated role or a large budget we have managed to start to address some of the issues and we now know many more areas where we need to definitely advocate for more work to be done. I'd like to acknowledge my colleagues who have helped work on this project and again especially grateful to the Art Gallery of New South Wales in particular Asti sharing. I haven't touched on many aspects of time based media management especially the technical requirements of digitisation or the subject of digital preservation and storage. Anna Henry digitisation programme manager at Art Gallery of New South Wales knows a lot about the latter is also here at NDF and we thought if anybody would like to speak to us about this at afternoon tea we're very happy to meet you.


Well, good evening. This is the 6 p.m. Press Conference here on the CZU complex My name is Jonathan Cox deputy chief for Cal Fire San Mateo Santa Cruz unit and line officer here on the incident As always if you commute your cell phones Please take any conversations away from the press conference area and keep your masks on at all times It would be greatly appreciated. We will have time after the end of the speakers to answer any questions You might have individually Just a quick update this evening as of 6 p.m. We have Confirmed 84,760 acres have been consumed by this fire The good news is we can also confirm that we're up to 37 percent containment on the incident There are still over 6,700 structures that are threatened by the fire and Fortunately new numbers this evening. We can confirm 1,281 structures have been destroyed by the incident of those 1,281 structures 20 are in San Mateo County six of those single-family residents in San Mateo County In Santa Cruz County 1,261 structures have been destroyed 811 of those are single-family residents. We have over 2100 firefighting personnel on the fire line now And the incident is now continuing to go from the mitigation phase into that recovery phase as we increase the containment For an operations update cow fire incident management team three operations section chief Mark Brunner Good evening. So again another great day of progress on our fire In our north zone. We have continued Suppression activities Patana Park area Fires continue to work its way down to our control lines and in some areas. We've done some small burnout operations to help Make that more effective and expedite that process so that we can get in and do some control efforts and extinguishment In that area. So a lot of work there. We've been able to shift a lot of resources into that area From the other parts of the fire a lot of that hand crew work very steep terrain and also very heavily Forced to type area a lot of fuels in that area So a lot of work to be done in that To make it safe and to put direct control line around that part of the fire So for the coming days a lot of work is going to be concentrated in that area moving down the highway one corridor again It's looking a lot really good We're doing a lot of mop up the highway one Corridor is still closed as far as highway one Caltrans in their work in along with the utility companies continue to make that render that safe And so that's been an ongoing process But we want to make sure everything's safe before that opens up can be a dab and pours been Repopulated out for a good day So people are kind of getting their lives back to normal in that area and we're continuing to do a patrol and mop up the surrounding areas There southern end of the fire is looking really good. I've gotten that buttoned up and continued mop up Moving up the highway nine corridor Community feltons repopulated and we're continuing to mop up around there And then we are we've repopulated certain areas up into the Ben Lohman community And we have line a control line up all the way past community of Boulder Creek and We're continuing to improve that line Continue mop aggressive mop up. We are having a lot of roll-out of materials, which means the burn materials It's very steep and even with our control lines Rules down into and then over our control lines. So with the heavy patrol and mop up going on there They're picking that stuff up with the population Repopulating in those areas. We're seeing a lot of smokes and getting calls for service We've expected that we know that's going to happen as the weather gets hotter and drier and talking with our instant meteorologist That's going to happen mid to late week where we're going to see the wind change to a northerly push We're going to see hotter drier conditions and with that We are going to see a significant increase in those nuisance smokes Which will cause a significant call of service for us So even though we're aggressively mopping that up these things are going to pop up with this type of fuel In this forced to type area heavy duff. We're going to continue to see that So we're going to be very aggressive in our mop up in and be prepared for those calls of service that we're going to get Continuously for the coming time the community of Bonnie Dune Again a lot of hard work in there and we still have a lot of work to do The utility companies are in there aggressively getting their infrastructure put back in place Our road groups are going and clearing the roads We still have that problem and we will have the problem of the fire week in trees that are coming down And that causing a safety concern not only to our personnel But potential public that may be in those areas and that again That's why we have those areas still evacuated because it is still very dangerous there along with the ash pits from the fire that's been burning over the period of the past week and a half or so and Again, we're trying to render render those safe so that when we do move the population back in that it's as safe as it possibly can be The weather again we had the heavy marine layer Which did not allow our aircraft to fly like as much as we'd like it to but they were able to fly in the afternoon times We had a lot of missions that they flew for us and they dropped as of right now about an hour ago About 55,000 gallons of water Not as good we had earlier in the week But it's it's an improvement from what we've been seeing the past few days and as the weather continues to get better We have better air for our aircraft to fly We're going to get more of those missions in so that they can take care of those internal hotspots where our crews can't reach and then more Importantly to support our ground crews that are on the ground in their mission to Extend this fire so we're getting another day closer to Success and our folks are continually and hardly are working hard to accomplish that mission. Thank you Speaking next from the Santa Cruz County Sheriff's Office is Ashley King Every day that we can come up here and say that we were able to bring people back home is a good day for us So luckily we can say today that we did bring some of the community of Ben Lohman home Also other areas of Felton and Zion T and we're continuing to re-evaluate these zones on a daily Basis and want to make sure that zone is completely safe before we bring people back in there As far as calls go we received five suspicious circumstances and one welfare check over the past day and last night We are still just out one missing person's case so that our Detectives are still working on as far as staffing we had 53 deputies and officers patrolling those evacuated zones and also the newly repopulated zones today and we're looking at 60 plus deputies and officers tonight One last thing I want to address is some people have expressed concerns about the burned areas and homeowners who Lost their homes in this fire are worried that other people might be able to get back up there to sift through their things Before they are able to and we want to make sure you know that's not going to happen We're going to have deputies and officers up there patrolling those areas making sure Anyone that isn't supposed to be up there Isn't up there and and we just want people to know that We're gonna continue to be here until this is over with. Thank you Speaking next from the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office is Lieutenant Del Porto. Good evening. Just a few things for San Mateo County We're continuing our safety and security checks in our coastal communities. We have 36 people patrolling the affected areas I'd also like to remind people who do not live or work on the south coast of San Mateo County to please avoid the area We're trying to keep the roads clear for emergency personnel and utility vehicles who are Repairing the roads and trying to repair our infrastructure. So we would appreciate that. That's all I have. Thank you Speaking next on behalf of all the unified incident commanders here on the incident is Cal Fire Incident Management Team 3 IC Billy C Hey, good evening Obviously each day we continue to progress and take several steps forward and the mitigation of this incident Over the coming weeks, there's going to be lots of smoke production in different areas That have burned that's well interior Our firefighters currently are engaged on the perimeter Aggressively mopping those areas up so we can safely get the majority of folks back home as soon as possible With that said today We brought in nearly 300 men and women from the California National Guard to bolster the firefighting efforts and the containment efforts Going on on this incident. They're going to be deployed Over the next three weeks with us and working diligently to ensure that we secure our lines and make it safe for everyone out there to return home Obviously when we move through the recovery process The counties of both in San Mateo and Santa Cruz are going to be actively involved in assuring the roadways are clear and Ensuring the infrastructure is improved and maintained to get phones folks back at home And there's going to be more information here shortly by the next speaker related to a lot of that and the steps that they can do Moving forward from this Speaking next on behalf of the Cal Fire San Mateo Santa Cruz unit is unit chief Ian Larkin Good evening As you as you heard tonight another good day Each day every little win that we get is a measurement of success on trying to mitigate this incident As you heard our containment went up. We're starting to get Residents back into their homes and back to some sort of a normalcy With that you heard that you know, there are going to be smokes in and around the control lines So people need to be village vigilant about that We're going to have resources in there as it was stated making sure that those are contained mopped up appropriately and Those situations are mitigated. I just do want to remind everybody that we are still very early in our fire season It's just the end of August. We're typically just getting into what we consider our normal fire season or our window of opportunity for Having a fire events of this magnitude that we just had basically from September into mid October So I still want to remind people to be vigilant as we complete this this incident and Get it mitigated that we still have that potential. So be vigilant For those that are in the affected fire areas, you know, we do have a weather coming in this next week So just be ready to go as we said, you know, make sure you've got your things in order your your bags pack just in the event that We do have a either a flare-up on this or a new event occur somewhere in That the area or within the unit So we just want to make sure everybody's vigilant on that and listen to the reports if you haven't go to The netcom or the Santa Cruz regional 9-1-1 and register for your code red Subscription so that you can get activated in those events that a reverse 9-1-1 needs to be implemented the other thing I want to just mention today, I had an opportunity to go to the Resource Recovery Center, which you're going to hear more about It was a nice surprise to see how many folks were out there taking advantage of getting a head start Even though they may not know their structures have been damaged or destroyed or if it has been destroyed they're they're seeking assistance in that recovery process and starting to move forward to make sure that they have What's available to them as far as resources moving past this so And I can't stress enough that those are still out there be a very vigilant in your Surroundings of the trees or you know some of the areas are 15 days into fire Impaction and are very dangerous and that could come down without any warning So be safe out there and we'll continue to work for the citizens to get this mitigated Our final speaker this evening with some important information about the recovery process from the Santa Cruz County CoC is Jason Hoppin. Thank you as Chief Larkin said our Recovery Resource Center is going strong Would encourage anyone that was impacted by the fire to go down there and see the services that are available It's at the Kaiser arena in downtown Santa Cruz. It's open 11 to 7 every day If you can't make it down there We've tried to put together a virtual recovery center Just go to Santa Cruz County dot US and look for the fire recovery tab And you'll access a bunch of resources right there And if neither does work for you a good place to start is just go to disaster assistance gov and Fill in your information and see what they can do for you. That's the FEMA's website a couple notes as Repopulation has really rolled out in full swing here. We've really seen a drop in our shelter population so beginning on Tuesday, we're going to start to consolidate some of those operations and We will begin winding down on Tuesday the Congregational Church in Soquel Twin Lakes Church Coastlands Church and the Santa Cruz Civic Harbor High School the Seventh Day Adventists The fairgrounds out in Wasaville Cabrillo and Simpkins will remain open But we will wind down those four sites and consolidate them a couple other notes our road crews are in the fire zone They're doing ongoing assessments of China grade Alba Road Bear Creek and Swanton There's debris throughout the zone so they're trying to make sure that the utility trucks and get through the Cal Fire crews and get through And we're already working with contractors on Swanton Road So work will begin this week on a temporary bridge replacement over Mill Creek and there's also three culverts that need to be Replaced so we're hoping to get that road passable for crews In the not too distant future They're also doing tree assessments. There's a lot of trees in the right away that need to come down For the safety of motorists once they open those areas And we have we have a total of three crews out there doing that work also another note We're gonna begin property inspections our building department is gonna be out there and we'll start that process this week We have not seen something of the scale So I have no idea how long that's gonna take yet. We'll know more as this rolls out will provide more information When we know more information and then just a couple of notes for the people because we're starting to repopulate closer to the fire zone You know if you've lost power for any length of time And you're going back and look at any refrigerator just throw your food out if there's any question if there's any doubt throw it out, right? And also ash that ash that is if you have ash on your property that can actually be hazardous So please don't use a leaf blower to blow it around If you need to vacuum it up for some reason make sure you're using a vacuum with a HEPA filter If you're a kid children's toys have been outside to wipe them down Try not to get it on your skin. It can just be it can actually have a bad effect for you. Thank you All right with that. We're happy to answer your questions Questions Yes, the question was related to the frequency of the press conferences We plan on doing another press conference in 24 hours from now at 6 p.m. Tomorrow, and then on an as-needed basis after that Second question is The question is related to the areas east of highway 9 on Bear Creek Road Chief Brenton a few have any insights on that Yes, we're we're continuing Evaluating that every day we have a meeting with our law enforcement partners and during that meeting we Give our input to the law enforcement as far as what we feel comfortable Opening up for the safety of the public as well as the safety of our first responders Some of that is is a little problematic based on some of the road systems because sometimes when we do open up a certain road system It allows access by nature of the road systems throughout the rest of the fire Which can inhibit the effectiveness of our crews in continuing to extinguish and suppress the fire So we look at that very carefully We do not take that lightly because folks have been out of their homes for a week plus And we want to get them repopulated as soon as possible, but we have to do a bit of a Balancing act with that so we're not intentionally trying to take you know to keep people out For long periods of time. It's just that as we are aggressively doing our mop up and making rendering it safe Then we are going to suggest and recommend to our law enforcement partners What we feel comfortable opening and then ultimately it's up to the sheriff's office in this case To make the final decision but we do that as a collective group and then we we make sure we message that out appropriately so that people are informed appropriately and And it's just one team moving together to to make that happen. So for that particular road I can give you an exact date I will tell you that it is something on our radar and we are looking at that carefully and You'll see the next probably 48 hours a few more repopulations occur right now We've been very aggressive and repopulating, but we want to do it also in a controlled fashion. So it's not chaotic and it's as Efficient and effective for not only us, but also for the population to get back home and get their lives back to normal So it is on our radar. We are working towards it and it is something that you will probably see in the near future So in relation to do we have to wait for the utility companies before that and yes We have as part of that process a very Thorough process and that that there has to be signatories before we repopulate and part of that is the fact that We make sure that when they repopulate into those areas, they have power. They have water They have the necessary utilities and so forth in place so that they're not coming home And it's dark and they don't have power and all that stuff. They've already been In a situation where they've been out of their homes and and it's Uncomfortable and so forth. We want to make that return as comfortable as possible for those people returning Yeah, I think that what what you've experienced is the environment has been Filled with a lot of particulate matter some of that natural particulate matter and some of that because of the nature of burning a Lot of structures. There's a lot of stuff. So to speak in the air some of it could be harmful to health And so just to be on the safe side anything any sort of I would say filters in your HVAC systems for your homes I would replace anything like vehicles anything that filters air I would recommend that they take the appropriate actions replace that and And like has already been mentioned as far as when you are removing any ash and so forth That you keep that in mind is that you don't aerosolize that put it up the air where you're breathing it use any sort of Masks and nowadays we're wearing masks for everything else. So it's probably it could time to be wearing it anyway And make sure that that's as safe as possible because there there is a lot of stuff That was put in the atmosphere that we really don't know what exactly it was and it is just a nature of these kind of incidents We're Andy Gordon KBCZ Boulder Creek Community Radio Can you elaborate on the issues with the Salerno Valley Water District and the water alerts that have been issued? Sure, the question was related to the water alerts that have been issued by the the water district What was this is very specifically you're looking for that? just maybe The severity this the areas that are affected how long It's expected to affect those areas Sure, I actually asked that we go back and speak to them Specifically, I don't want to speak for them or misspeak for them So we can definitely get you someone to contact to get that information I'll have one more question What can residents expect that are going back to their neighborhoods as far as their their properties are concerned? I know so there's markings on the roads. What are those markings? Yeah, so I know I can speak for the damage inspection team specifically They put markings on the properties that they've inspected so that when the other teams are in the area They don't become redundant if there's some sort of physical indicator there So that's the markers from the actual incident itself. Obviously, there's other utilities that use marking systems. There may be County agencies that come through and use markings So the people coming into the area may see a variety of different markings in the area All with different specific purposes for different utilities and infrastructure and damage inspection teams Yeah, you know, I think one of the biggest things for a firefighter coming off the line after a 24-hour shift To see those signs really makes all the difference for them to see someone saying thank you or a kid waving a flag or a sign So from from us. It's a huge Kind of motivator to keep going and continue the hard work in the community All right, everybody up here is available for questions after this just a reminder We will have our last press conference scheduled for tomorrow at 6 p.m I just want to say thank you for everyone for joining us and this concludes the 6 p.m. Press conference