Of course there's going to be this delay of me watching the screen seeing if it wakes up Yeah The swapping around works Okay, so welcome everybody we'll get started here in about a minute. I don't want to rush anybody How we can see it again good the stream seems to be live So for those of you asking where the live QA schedule is you should be able to see that on the DEF CON website for those of you who are ready to ask questions of our Amazing speakers one of whom is standing on a roof and the other is in a yellow room We will proceed Right now actually, so hello everyone. I'm fallible. I'm going to be one of your goons I get it's over here and we to have Shaw and Hadrian or Hadrian he didn't correct me earlier when I think I said both And he's fine. Any is fine. All right Go ahead and give us a moment actually tell us the name of your presentation and We'll just get in to asking some questions So the presentation is DNS section and I mean that's that's already quite quite good Yeah, it's a really good name.  So thank you both very much for joining us for the Q&A portion. I For any of you looking for their presentation, you should be able to find that on the DEF CON YouTube page Let's get started with a pre Arranged question that you sent me because you were really really nice to us So which equipment slash tools do I need to perform this attack? Well, I guess I can answer this one Basically you only need your computer and the few tools we have presented in the talk So one to get hushers and one to break a hushers So just an insect free walker those hash cats is much enough to confront this attack Obviously if you have a big GPU it's much easier But even on the CPU you can use John's the repair to actually get quite a lot of DNS records so you can really do this at home and In fact, we've made a little challenge on the website on the website On the last slide so dnssection.ovh and if you want to try the tools specifically on our website and you can then send us the hash that you've been broken and we have a We will put up Some scores and see who's the best at it So anyone can try it easily at home, but it's much better with a big GPU. Oh, it's on now See, that's excellent. We'll make sure that we put that in the track one Chat here so people can access to that without having to guess So good And I love that that what you've come up with here is something that's very accessible for folks and it Looks to me like it's a good place for people to enter into doing this type of work There's a lot of presentations that go way over folks's heads if they're beginners or Having to set up a bunch of extra tools and it looks to me like you folks have done one that's Going to be very accessible. So thank you for that Um, so what did you do with all the data that you got and how much? How much did you get to pay? By insert evil company for the whole data set, but so what would you do with all this data? Perhaps I can answer this one Surprisingly, perhaps we have not done anything with it We we have the data and we didn't even exploit it to its fullest potential So we've been very nice and very kind That is very nice. You could have done so much interesting stuff Yes extend that a little bit then and help me understand if you wanted to be What would be the next step that somebody could take with it and not Get ourselves in trouble with the lawyers Well, you have already a lot you can do just by looking at the data itself That's part of what we've been doing and we've provided statistics about it In in the talk and in the slides, but really you can you can do much more than that You can compare the data that you got from this With data you've got from somewhere else either from I don't know some other We can't tool or from knowledge you've got from research or osint or whatever So really it's just one tool in the whole toolbox you can get to extract information and I wouldn't say that all the other tools are completely legal. I Wouldn't say that you wouldn't get into trouble by using the information you get that way So use that your risk and be very careful with it But it's public information is publicly displayed. It's just that the information itself is meant to be private It's meant to be hidden that it's on public display So I think I think that that's one way to answer your question It's you can you can really do a lot if you use that data and collate it with other sources of data and actually Input whatever you got from no email address addresses into a database of broken passwords and then you get access to that Email address for instance, and I think a dream may have other ideas as well. What to do with it? Oh Actually Legally over your ideas. I think you've pretty much said everything I Like the the restraint there that makes a lot of sense so Okay, that's useful to know. So how much did it cost for you to run this GPU attack? well In practice it did cost us absolutely nothing except basically some time to set up the things because We got access to some free GPU time But I did try to estimate how much it would have cost us if we had for example just a rented AWS GPU instance and I do estimate the cost of the attack between $1,000 and $2,000 however If like I did only use like maybe a tenth of the time we were able to use I think We will maybe I found at least 80% of the number of hashers we are able to find with 10 times more power So like even with your laptop we were laptop even without a GPU and only a simple laptop CPU I think you can get easily maybe Two-thirds of the hashers were able to crack with our big GPU. It was treating that classic 8020 rule then Yes, basically that pretty much That's we do have a couple questions from the chat if you'd like to so one is What are some additional examples of confidential information that are being stored in DNS? So the question is whether there were confidential information. I Think they're asking other than the emails that you were able to pull out Was there the other examples of information that that people would expect to be confidential that you were able to pull out? And we have perhaps you can we can say more about the kind of things we find well specifically on An OVH there was nothing else we were able to find and we did not really look much in For other kind of data. We are quite quite happy with what we found there But there are some other examples of Such private info for example If you take the domain key records Some people might know about this. It's one of the various Guinness records you put up to avoid the email spam and things like that There's a very recent article or blog post I forgot About someone mining for all these domain key records and finding out Which mailer different company use and who and like Which is an email partner so he was able to dig quite a lot of valuable information also for the use of the Guinness records and I'm pretty sure there are many other users of private info in Guinness data, but it's not so easy to find it And if I may add to this Although the email addresses may seem like it's a small thing It actually is the basis on top of which we could explore further find the names of people find new Hosts to target and even some private information about These people because the email addresses showed that they were working at the same company for instance So it's it's an email address, but even then you can say a lot from this So there was a follow-up question of whether you meant domain key As a deep DKM I am is that what you referring to I Think the K. I am and the main key is something different I'm not sure I forgot exactly. It's kind of the same thing. And if it's not the same, it's another protection for email Clearly in the DNS it shows up at something dot underscore domain key dot your domain and bad people use a Easily guessable something and good people use a long hash for the something and people who do use the long hash for something make it very difficult to find the domain key, but I I would need to check up for the domain key that versus the KM thing So I love this other question that came in as well from Angel Rain of what is the impact to me? the general internet user which is always a nice thing to be able to to encompass of How is this going to affect somebody who is just out there trying to do their job? Well, if you are an OVH customer, then you might have quite some issues and I would Like if you do have some private email projects direction, then I would suggest you to use one of the Mitigation we talk about in the In the talk if you're not an OVH customer. Well, I guess I would just log on to my cloud provider and Watch my DNS zone and see if there are some records. I was not expecting that and if they are well do submit the talk for DevCon next year Now that's good advice Okay Well, let's move on with one of the other questions that you've posted for us here So why does DNS sec only use old crypto? Perhaps I can take this one All script is not nice But it is it is a lot of The things you would see Some years ago on the internet and now most of the internet I mean the browsers and servers have moved on to other algorithms That are faster and some of them some of them I can consider more secure But DNS you have to understand in a sec works and a lot of constraints. It has to be Very very fast because it's used that scale So you cannot use all the algorithms you'd like you have to use the fastest ones and that's actually been a reason why Cryptography took a long time to to to get inside of DNS sec to the extent that it is now because even today we're deploying security extensions And we have to account for cryptographic operations taking time and latency You also have to account for compliance because some technologies are Constrained by laws in the different countries that you would be In and therefore if you want to use DNS, which of course you do worldwide You have to account for the fact that some technologies are not considered Legal or accepted in some places so you have to deal with a very Small subset of the possible algorithms and you have to have all the DNS Resorvers and all the DNS servers supporting these algorithms And you have to be fast So you are playing at a lot of different constraints and that reduces the set of possible Algorithms you can use to essentially two of them or three of them One is not usable at all. It's RSA was not really usable at all at scale And the other is ECDSA Which you can use to sign very fast, but it's on a fixed curve Which from a cryptographic standpoint is not ideal It means you cannot build on all the innovations of the 21st century To try and get the best performance and the best security are out of this So really that's that's the reason you need to do things fast at scale While keeping governments happy That's a rough combination of things to deal with if you're trying to future-proof your technology It has to be fast. So some of the methods that we have aren't going to immediately work there And you have to have compatibility with the the old stuff. So Interesting all right So another side question on this one, how did you find yourselves doing the testing on DNS sec in the first place? I Think I don't think I should answer this one well Actually, I think we explained that in the talk, but Sorry, it was nice. It happens that I am an OVH customer for like long actually since many many years and One day I just did add redirect on my domain just to test what it would do and then I did realize That well some to record has popped In the unit zone and from there. I just thought that maybe I'm not the only one to have such a behavior So I did try other fine domain first and same issue and then you guess What happened and then we see what happened? Yeah Hey, so I get you mentioned you might have another couple of questions you're welcome to drop those in whenever you might like to so other things that you've Can you give me any idea of where you would have gone with this research had you more time or had you more? Well, let's go with more Permissions if you had been told by somebody that you were allowed to is there Is there some space that you would have liked to have gone with this presentation? Well one thing like assuming I had all permission would have been to actually send an email to people we were able to find Data about and ask them first if they didn't know that their direction were almost perfect And other thing would be to ask them for the to tell us which redirect we did not find so we get a better idea of What kind of plain text we were not able to recover from our hushers? so two ideas which I Consider are not evil. It would be really be some research thing, but would have required more permission Let me any other idea When the more evil kind of things we could do of course As I mentioned earlier, we could collate this information with other information we have for instance all the hosts That people use to receive their emails. Well, most of them were Gmail. So it's it's not necessarily the most interesting things But some of them are not and we could look into these and we could try and see The proportion of email addresses that are self-hosted or that are hosted in known to be vulnerable domains That would also be extremely interesting As I also think we say in the talk we could look at Point email databases of point addresses of database to see how much of these redirects are actually directly usable by people in the know To get an account and to use so these are two things that would be curious to know about which are perhaps a bit less nice Good answers. All right, I like where you're heading on that one There was a follow-up question in the chat over here from overdrive Although there is an RFC to add EDS a to DNS sec. Why isn't it used more widely even though it ain't Maya, I'm talking here. Even if it answers all the caveats performance and security you talked about so Why isn't it used more widely? I Think I can answer this one You see this is being deployed. So it is at the time that we're talking. It's it's Widely deployed. It's getting almost there. It wasn't true a few years ago So really it's the question is more about what took so long before we started implementing easy DSA at scale and Perhaps I mean, I don't have the full answer to that but perhaps part of the reason is that it wasn't clear which Solution to zone walking should be implemented as we mentioned in the talk the issue of zone walking has been identified fairly early on and on and sec and So and sec 2 and and sec 3 have been proposed and sec 4 has been proposed as well and sec 5 has been proposed and the problem is and Most of them and sec 2 and sec 4 didn't see the light and sec 4 has not been finalized And set 5 has not finalized So people were waiting perhaps on a solution to emerge to be stable to support because again When you're doing DNS when you're doing back bono of the internet kind of things You want to support things very long term. So there was an expectation that some of the candidates would Happen to be the right one and that did not happen for a very long time. And in fact ECDSA is not the best candidate. It's just the best available candidate using existing technology It accomplishes enough of the the pieces and there's no better idea right now, huh? Interesting You gave me one final question over here, which seems like it's a little more fun So there was a slide with a locksmith on the DNS sec roll over session slides What is the story behind the slide with the locksmith? Okay, well so it's during a dead at sec rollover Key session so something that happens if I remember correctly maybe every three months and It's like a very scripted ceremony with many steps and Everyone getting things out of the safe the signing keys putting them back auditing everything and it happens and like maybe one day before the ceremony during a rehearsal they saw that one of the safe containing one of the Edgesons was jammed. So What you do? Well, you do have to crack the same open and so they had to hire a locksmith to Open it. I think like it took 28 hours to open it So a lot of work and so they had to pay everyone the two more hotel nights because they had to delay the Ceremony so even with photography you sometimes have to get back to your old locksmith and crack safes opened Physical security is never out of style is it? No, but at least since it took the last bit like 28 hours to open it I'm hoping that any bad people would have been detected before they were able to actually open the safe That is kind of the thing with the with the safe cracking right? You're always going to be able to get in you Just hope it takes long enough to be noticed fantastic, so as we I Think I think I already asked a part of this but we'll hit it again just to to make sure we cover our bases Where would you want somebody else who has a different set of skills or a different amount of time or a different? Background to do their own research on this subject Is there something that you would point someone towards if they were looking for a research subject a research topic of their own? I have a ton of that at the end may have another others as well Perhaps I can start by saying that As I hinted to DNS is something that has that has to be understood at the global scale and something that Should be understood is that although it's all virtual and it's all the internet It really is made of servers that have a physical implementation somewhere that under some jurisdiction somewhere and Something I would like people to look into is the geopolitics of how this whole Agreements and choice of algorithms and choice of position where you put the servers The latency as a function of geography all the interconnections between the backbone of the internet and the way most people use it make it transparent, but really it matters and the geopolitics so the influence of International agreements discussions not only economical, but also political that would be one thing I'd like people to look into ah, do you hear that all of you folks who are into international politics and Where the lines get drawn you have somebody who would like to work on you from the technical side Absolutely everything I think has many ideas as well On this very specific subject not so much actually the best idea I had was actually about the Domain key thing I just thought before but someone already did it like a two months ago. So very good. So It shows that I'm we're not the only one looking at the DNS recalls And then on my more general thing it's you could consider this leakage almost like some kind of Side-channel attack. So it's some kind of very low-tech side-channel attacks. And I'm pretty sure there are many other Areas where you could find public data where you're not expecting it at all just what it's a little hidden. So that's There's a little of luck you need because you need to first to find you need to find the first record But if one day you do find some public info that you are not supposed to find Well, try to dig up behind it and find out it is just one or if there are thousands of such info in the same place I also have a suggestion on for the more cryptography oriented people The way that the walking is mitigated is by using white lies So you would sign a lot of information and so you can force the server to produce a lot of signatures ECDSA is famously a brittle algorithm. And so if the implementation on the server is not absolutely perfect It's quite likely that by collecting millions billions of signatures You can actually obtain the private key With known techniques. So one thing that we didn't look into but you may want to check is okay Can I find DNS servers that have not the latest? Open SSL library say use known attacks against ECDSA and forcing the white light Vitalize mechanism to obtain the necessary signatures and then well perform a DNS spoof Something like this might be interesting That is a nice sequence of events there. I like where you're going. So it'll be neat to see if somebody To add on this I have already tried a few millions to get a few minute record and try non-series on it So the most basic ECDSA attack and it was not successful, but maybe some more advanced attack would actually work We will make sure that we have your contact information in the Track one Channel over here at the end of this so that people can ping you if they would like to talk about this further In fact now is probably a good time to make sure that is there a place that you would like for people to reach out to You if they have more questions or thoughts about the work that you've been doing DNS section of the age and you have all the contact info on this website. So That's the website to put on the chart perfect We'll get somebody to drop that in there for us so Say again, I don't want to just Bulldozer here if you have another thought for us right now, then if you have a question drop us with that before I do our close out so we do have one more question from the the audience It was asking about geopolitically. Where do you see? C8 providers fitting in say borders of countries that are have to be taken over Would you personally prefer a CA provider being further away from those border borders? Or do you think it matters at all? That's an excellent question for which I think there is no easy answer, but that's what makes a good question I think the borders are a huge a huge issue It does matter as you know, CA's are Generated usually they're using machines dedicated machines and whoever seizes them has the possibility to do whatever they want with it So yes indeed if you have CA's if you want to Have any kind of guarantee about the physical security of something put it as far away as you can from moving borders absolutely great, all right, so My last question that I like to hit people with is what would be your call to action not just something that you want people to research further but What would be the the the core of what you're attempting to get people to understand or to get interested in about the work that you're doing and Give people that leg up on moving forward That's a that's that's a complicated question I Think I think I've already put forward the notion that look around yourself look around the technology that we use every day The more we use it the less we ask about it the less we wonder about how it works and why it works and why it doesn't work and We we tend to be focused on getting work done What we do is exactly the opposite. We're trying to to stop and think about okay. It doesn't work. It's interesting It's like bugs, you know people try to kill bugs whenever they see a bug and we like more collecting them and and say oh well That's nice. This one has This one has wings and this one is eating some stuff. So we really Try to do that and to call for people to Focus on issues not to try and solve them But to try and look at issues for themselves as something that's interesting and that brings not only solutions But brings more Intelligence more more more ideas into the game, but that's my take on it and the empaths might have something more That's poetic to say No, actually, I do agree with you and even like My overall life I am a software engineer and what I do find the bug even something which is just changed But never happens again in other circumstances I always put it for a rainy Friday and try to look at exactly what happened and often More than just this this bug often shows some hidden secrets That's where we are really happy to fix before it actually goes for real. So And what are the facts just to look to look around you and Try as much as possible to get to the bottom of strength things to find out if it is only bidding or if there is a long story behind it I Appreciate those answers and I appreciate the two of you very much for coming to join us for this I also am very much entertained by the light mode dark mode thing we have going on with the you know Outside then you know in the dark. So this is cool Thank you so much for your presentation and for spending your time with us If anybody has any additional questions, they have posted Bolivia posted the DNS section oVH in the track one live QA so you can find that there Otherwise have a great rest of the convention and we hope to see more from you folks soon Thank you very much to all deaf congoons to have to be able to make this session what happened this year So thanks a lot to you too Cheers. Thank you. Bye everyone


This is the supine cadaver. I am demonstrating from the right side the camera person is on the left side This structure that we see in front of us This is the inferior vena keva and this structure is the aerota The avatar as we know is to the left of the inferior vena keva now Let's take a look at the inferior vena keva, which I told you is on the right side of the aerota Abdominal extent of the inferior vena keva is much longer than the aerota. The inferior vena keva starts in the abdomen from its Cable height which is at the level of T8 on the right side and it ends at the level of L5 Where it divides into the two common ideacs However, the visible extent of the inferior vena keva is much less than its actual extent Visible extent is only from here to here after it enters into the liver after that the inferior vena keva is not visible Neither is it visible when it goes through the diaphragm neither is it visible when it goes immediately after that into the right So this is actual visible extent of the inferior vena keva The hepatic veins which enter into the inferior vena keva inside the liver are also not visible Tributaries of the inferior vena keva match the Branches of the aerota, but there are some differences For example, the inferior vena keva does not receive any counterpart of the celiac artery or the superior mesentric artery or the inframicentric artery Instead the superior mesentric vein and the inframicentric vein which are the counterparts of these arteries They drain into the portal vein. There is no counterpart of the celiac artery There is distinct renal vein and we can see the renal vein here We can see the left renal vein is much longer than the right renal vein because the inferior vena keva is on the right side and the left renal vein receives The left esticular or the gonadal vein and it also receives the left Supra-renal vein. The left renal vein is also used for Splenorenal shunt because the splenic vein is situated just one centimeter above the left renal vein The left renal vein can get compressed as I mentioned by the superior mesentric artery We can see the vein on this side also and here we can see the renal vein is arising as one trunk And it's immediately dividing into two and entering into the right kidney The inferior vena keva receives the right supra-renal vein However, the left supra-renal vein does not drain into the inferior vena keva Instead as we can see here, it drains into the left renal vein Inferior vena keva, as I mentioned a little while back, receives three hepatic veins inside the liver However, the hepatic artery actually is a branch of the celiac trunk. Now I'm going to show you something very unique I have retracted the inferior vena keva to show the lumbar veins There are four lumbar veins which drain into the inferior vena keva and we can see them on the right side The fifth lumbar vein opens into the external ideal vein and that we can see here This is the fifth lumbar vein These four lumbar veins which we are seeing on the right side They have a communicating vein which runs up like this And it is a very thin walled vein and it is located within the fascia So therefore we have to see it very closely here itself And we can see that vein where it is being traced by my instrument here This is called the ascending lumbar vein which has communications with L4, L3, L2, L1 This ascending lumbar vein as it goes up just below the 12th rib It unites with the subcostal vein and after that on the right side It becomes known as the azygous vein which then enters into the thorax through the aortic hiatus in the diaphragm We have a similar situation occurring on the left side though it is not visible Where instead of azygous vein we have the hemi-azygous vein Which is also formed in exactly the same way And this also enters into the thorax and then at the level of T8 It opens into the azygous vein So we can see the formation, the beginning of the formation of the azygous vein In the form of ascending lumbar vein here This drains the structures in the posterior abdominal wall


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For all that hams has been able to achieve in this very short time. If you ever ask me, what is the major challenge, I would definitely tell you about finance, but to hams? I would say negativity, people are so negative. Even if you are doing something to their advantage, some may do it out of ignorance, but the majority do it out of hate. So that leaves me wondering how shall we pull up when we fight so much to keep each other down? Hams does not grant interviews, but he gave me the opportunity to speak to him for the first time on camera. I think I've made it in life and because of this, can you all do me a favor and like this video? Now, I notice that most of you watch the videos without liking. Come on, thank you. But hey, if today is your first time seeing this annoying face on your screen, I'm your one and only annoying village boy on a journey to change the negative narrative of Africa by celebrating African excellence. Please subscribe and support our journey. Thank you so much. Now, let's dive into the video because I am inspired and I know you will be inspired.  Are you made in Africa? 100%. I'm Ugandan and proudly African. All I've done and all I've achieved in Africa, actually I think I'm a living example of the fact that you can make it in Africa. So why the doubt that it's not possible to make it in Africa? Actually, I think that is a little bit wide because it all comes down to one element I think which is reason. For me, I believe we are a direct reflection of our reasoning capacity. I would ask, what do you think is the difference between the West and us despite the fact that Africa holds 80% of the resources, yet exploitation takes place in the West and they claim they donate to Africa. Simply because we haven't figured out on how to realize the prevailing resources we have at hand naturally to exploit them towards our own prosperity. So, success and failure at the end of the day just like I wrote a book, success and failure based on reason and reality. For me, I believe reason is one of the governing elements of someone's capacity to attituately analyze what is before them and see how they can make it towards their own prosperity and the society at large. So, the distance and gap between success and failure is merely reason. Are you trying to say Africa is poor because you are not reasoning? No reason is a little bit deep because if I take it from a general perspective I think all present, past and future discoveries of humanities are a mere reflection of the reasoning capacity of humanity or people of that particular period in time. Reason governs everything. When God created man, He created us with a mind. For me, I believe success and failure it all starts and ends in the mind. There are limited resources in the world that satisfy man is unlimited once. So, it's how someone utilizes the limited resources towards their own progress, prosperity and the societies where they live. What's your definition for success? Survival can be success. A man can successfully survive on earth. So, success is a little bit broad.  But as humans we move for this success where you build empires a lot of finances. Are you talking about that kind of success? I think when it comes to success to so many I mean the word successful people I mean we say successful people are people who have been able to accumulate wealth. Yeah, someone could say that ham is a successful man but you see for me I believe ability to reason is an element of success because when you look at Africa and the West I think the difference between Africa and the West is merely reason because you see they have simply out risen dust something as simple as that because you hear me talk about reason but just like I defined it in my book actually I wrote two books success and failure based on reason and reality another book which says reason as the world masterpiece why do I say reason as the world masterpiece in life we all have challenges and we all think thinking is basic but reasoning is deep when you think acts first and short term when you reason you articulate deeply and act long term that's why we see most of African programs even when it comes to our countries we don't tend to take the long term drive we want short term so just like I defined reason in my book reason is one is ability to deeply articulate analyze the prevailing circumstances let it be an element of a challenge or a problem in order for that person to grasp and understand it in its totality within realistic parameters which gives them the ability to forge a corresponding solution to such a problem a productive continuous chain of one's ability to solve life challenges is what is transformed into progress and prosperity at the end of that day what problem are you solving in Uganda? now when you talk about Uganda is a little bit big but what problems have I solved in my life to some extent our status is and what we possess may it be a direct reflection of our reasoning capacity if you ask me ham what have you done to get where you are today I'll give you an answer reason is that what you did differently because you're so young and what you've been able to achieve I think my next question will be what did you do different from your age mates or your peers? reason because you see I'm constant on this thing of reason because that's all that's all there is if you want to solve a problem when God created humanity in fact God created us naked but with a brain it is only through the brain that we manage to transform over a given period of time now we are flying everything is on the phone ICT these are all you know it is evidence of our reasoning capacity as humans so when you ask me ham what do you think you do different from others that has made you achieve what you achieve it's just reason if you want to develop and elevate Africa I think we should attack the mind of the Africans if we can get Africans to reason I think we shall have solved all the problems of Africa if Africa holds all the world majority of the world resources yet we are still donated to up to day we take resources in raw materials minerals and they are brought back in form of peanuts in donation what stops us from utilization of available resources and their exploitation towards or a finished product in line or in the direction of our prosperity what is stopping us the resources are here now what is stopping us we are not reasoning enough but according to you what do you think is the problem of Africa I think we haven't exploited our reasoning capacity to forge a way forward for our continent because at the end of the day if you ask me what does Africa need to do to develop I will tell you things like unity but it takes reason for us to unify we cannot unify physically if we haven't unified in the mind we talk about borders but these borders are only physical the real borders of Africa are in our minds if we agreed mentally that we take out the borders I think they would be out but we fade to reason even on the simplest things Africa would have one unified flag Africa would have a free trading zone Africa would be traveling on one passport why do I need to cross from me at South Africa through a visa all these things the limiting factor of our ability to grow despite the resources we hold as a continent is reason someone may ask what is reason but you see reason is so simple and so precise that its strength lies in its softness actually it takes reason to reason and yet almost we have all the capacity to adjust and kickstart our reasoning capacity the books I wrote were known to tell you how much he has achieved what is he looking to achieve no these books were made to kickstart a person is reasoning capacity to make you think what am I doing wrong how can I explore the prevailing circumstances towards my own progress Ham let's go back to how it all started what was your first ever business that you invested in it comes my personal progress I started as a young man made it after my A level classes before joining campus I started trading my family was a trading background but I started really small trading in garments on retail scale mainly ladies garments and bags then I moved into to another bigger scale of the same I started getting these things from Thailand, Hong Kong and China and selling them not only to Uganda domestically but also regionally to Burundi businessmen from Burundi, Rwanda, Sudan Kongo a wholesale center people from the village different areas of Uganda central north everywhere they come and shop their stock from here which they take back and sell on retail so that's why you see a lot of people most people coming from the villages to trade on wholesale they go back and sell on retail I think I even saw people from different African countries we have Kongolis we have Kenyans we have Tanzanians we have Sudanis people from different East African countries come and shop here and take back to their country as my capital group I moved into real estate putting up a few commercial structures now I've moved into industrialization you can serve a lot of projects running I'm putting up a stadium for $200 million I'm setting up 500 houses an estate of 500 houses I'm setting up agro-possessing industries so I'm doing quite a lot Welcome to Nakivibo stadium the only stadium that was designed built and funded by Uganda that's incredible man when you're walking around and you see what you've been able to achieve how does that make you feel actually as an element of reason I don't take too much pride in what I've achieved because the reality is what I've achieved I already have otherwise if you focus too much on what you have within perimeters of reason then it denies you that drive to strive for what you haven't achieved yet I don't think it is an element of reason to take too much pride in what you hold really? but I mean in Africa people who make it always want to let us know that they've made it what I have I have whether I'm proud or not it is there you see as a young African when I see a fellow young African who has been able to achieve so much success in a short time we tend to hate on that thinking that okay how did this guy accumulate his wealth we tend to attribute it to other sources I don't know has anyone ever yeah negativity is one of the limiting factors of progress in any society and trust me Africans at large are too negative they always want to pull down wherever they see going up but you see that goes back to the mind it is an element of inhibited reason because maybe if I'm up I can pull you down I can pull you up I can't pull you up when you're both on the ground but you see they don't think that way at the end of the day they always fight too much to pull you down and if you ask me where do I get pride am I proud of what I've achieved yeah to some extent if young people in Africa look up to me in what I've achieved because you see success and failure cannot be limited to an individual to some extent you learn this with time in fact prosperity or progress in a poor society becomes more over liability than an asset after some time because people look at you and they are like you see what harm has got our resources maybe the resources we have present would be enough if all of us had equal shares but how come we have too much and we have less so they start hitting on you but you don't hit back as a reasonable member of society you start thinking what can I do to improve the lives of those around me that is why you find like we have a problem majority of Africans are leaving the country going abroad this has been brought by our education systems that were imported and imposed and education system is supposed to provide corresponding solutions or build the society the young generation with the capacity to sort of problems within the privileged circumstances but these imposed imported and imposed education systems don't address our problems as Africans the way they are on ground that is why when majority of them finish studying they only think about one thing how do I go abroad in fact I would say we blame slavery but there are more Africans leaving the country today going abroad more over qualified ones with degrees than they were when they were being taken on chains what does it mean that we've been outrizoned, mentored slavery never left Africa it was simply upgraded from physical slavery to mental slavery and that is the problem we have so the West are successfully outrizoned Africans we can our politicians I've seen a lot of motivational speakers political speakers they talk about how the West has exploited us they talk about how they've made us suffer they talk about you know they keep criticizing the West on what they've done wrong for us to fail but they haven't talked about our inability to reason unafrican hates unafrican more than it can hate in a foreign person why? we have even failed to appreciate our identity identity is an element of reason simply identifying yourself and saying you know what I'm an African man and in Africa is where I belong for me I would with the kind of man I have I would move and move to the West but that is betray I can't live with it but why do you do all that the way you saw it to illustrate to my fellow Africans and Ugandans look here what you see in the States we can equally do it if I can get more Ugandans and Africans living in themselves as an element of reason together we can lift this continent up but something as simple as believing in our originality and character and the fact that we are Africans and it is our responsibility as Africans to develop this country as failed then we have even failed to take the first step we have even failed


All right, cyber traders welcome on back here this Wednesday afternoon October 13th shortly after 2 30 p.m Eastern time welcome on back for our afternoon meeting nice profit from Leda on the a and y stock She just got 12 cents. I think that's her second 12 cent trade in a row. Great to see Leda Great to see Norman great to see Gary great to see Tiffany one of our new trial members joining us here today Great to see Tina and Lionel and all of us here otherwise live inside the cyber room if you're joining us back on Facebook live YouTube welcome on back so Top into it as always we got a lot to talk about here today at least we had a decent morning Things started to pick up a bit here heading into the early afternoon a and y obviously we're talking about to begin up 16 plus percent and perhaps counting you know stocks making a nice trend in a new high the day as we speak so You know easily enough. We're gonna just put this on the main list. How can we not right? So just put this on the main watch list to begin write it down the a and y stock Norman says it was a decent morning indeed. Yeah, I'd say so it took a while personally myself to get the ball rolling But it paid off. We'll talk about a couple of stocks here in just a moment But man a and y obviously, you know lead it leading the way for us right now So this stock ended up making a really nice bounce, you know a couple of price levels 715 There was a massive iceberg order and pre-market that was there it got pulled I told I told us to watch out for that 715 ended up making for the nice slingshot level now alongside that Norman also pointed out from earlier today 720 was a really strong price level to watch heading into the end of the day ran up there false break out Well, it goes to show how strong the level was it dropped all the way back down shortly after so, you know Hey 715 720 the combination of that made for an excellent slingshot bounce type level It's up nearly a buck right now. So yeah for right now We're gonna put this on our main watch list just follow the trend off the lows You know more than just that but aside from that looks like the high dating back to Monday this week That was from $8.32 We'll take a look otherwise see if there's any other historical levels if you folks recall and I ended up mentioning this back from Monday The stock ended up breaking above a pretty big level to begin with that was right off of 770 I think I'd point it out you can go right back on the morning or on Monday's afternoon while meeting It's probably on our YouTube channel. We're talking about this 868 870 ish And you know unfortunately came back down the next day But men once it broke back over that 870 here pretty recently It started to accelerate a lot more wouldn't shock me if 770 becomes a support later on today and if not today then perhaps tomorrow or later on this week So yeah for right now a and y definitely, you know on our list already All right, we'll talk about a couple of other trades here The JSP are obviously otherwise made the next biggest move ended up making a huge pop as soon as the market opened up Got halted reopened up very quickly and from there. There was really no looking back So it's pretty hard to try and you know follow this stock because it provided very little opportunity for you know for us to get in Ended up making a little shake down to 11 here That was really like one of the only opportunities because once it broke out higher It just kept going ended up building up off the lows You could say pretty nicely, but you know for such a thinly traded stock It's not one that's easy to jump in on to be really transparent.  He ended up getting out underneath 17 Ended up pushing a bit above it but came right back down. I think it broke higher later on but Man right now this stock just seems really flat for the afternoon made such a nice pop and run from earlier It's hard to expect continuation on a stock like this Unless if it's already near the highs like a and y, you know, that's already on our list if this was you know Showing more momentum on the way up right now. I would be interested in it I'd see what's doing with it But this just looks too flat for my liking maybe by the end of this meeting if it ends up making a giant pop then Then we'll reconsider, but we'll pass on this year so far for the afternoon All right, we'll keep going down the gainers list. I reckon for right now. I mean WTRH It's not looking good here as well But you know one from earlier it was on our morning watch list was on the pre-market watch list It's a cheap stock You could trade a lot of shares of this if you know what you're doing at least So this ended up paying us pretty nicely ended up making a nice move shortly after the market opened up Above a key resistance level that we called out beginning in pre-market There was like a 50,000 share print on the tape from pre-market this morning the biggest prints across the time in sales At least leading into the market open 119 So at first was shaking around there didn't hold perfectly as a level you know initially It broke over it and that's what led to the run-up to the next major top. It actually didn't even kiss it It held under 138 $1.38 that was the next major iceberg level from book map from level three otherwise And it's to say well it made the nice run-up. I was hopeful for this to be a bounce area I jumped in on a lot of shares three thousand shares Unfortunately, obviously didn't push up much higher. I ended up closing out at 129 here 128 and then the rest I Got outbreak even right at 119 I was hoping for the last thousand shares I had for like nice pop balance later on doesn't look that doesn't look that way folks if it's not gonna break higher There's only one other way the socks are gonna go. All right, what a break number one But let's just jump down here the ORPH a stock that ended up making this huge pop for us going into the early afternoon I mean really out of nowhere pretty similar to the JSPR, but you know it goes to say right like we're day trading these stocks folks We're not trying to hold you know hold on throughout the course of the day I don't even know if there's any news that came out on ORPH the stock has been like a pop-and-drop type of stock for a long While now it's you know just made these big moves off of news then dump back down 50 60% after and it's not a good stock to swing trade News out on it. Let's see a bunch of words. I can't pronounce and trust me I'm gonna copy and paste and you'll probably agree with me Yeah, that's the news on on ORPH from today except for the little at sign and pound sign there I don't know what that's about, but they're treating some sort of disorder you can imagine So hey sounds like a nice headline, but ended up making a very short-lived move up ended up coming right back down It broke back under five it held five as resistance right here This thing's just gonna keep dropping it seems like folks. Maybe just maybe it could find a bounce from where it got halted from at 459, but I'm not gonna hold my breath for that. So, you know, listen, maybe tomorrow Maybe to maybe today. I'd love to be wrong on that, but I'm not expecting that move today If it ends up happening tomorrow different story, I'll be there tomorrow for it, perhaps All right We had a couple of other moves as we'll go through them across the gainers and losers list We'll kind of review them as we go This one here. We didn't really follow as much up until now SOTK ended up making kind of like a low volume albeit steady push-up from like 580 up to 650 ish and above Just I don't know. I mean seems kind of active for the afternoon trading 1.5 plus million shares It's a big, you know, again, though It's got a thin or thin order book and big spread or at least will fluctuate So I don't know I'll come back to this if I need to CRXT a stock from earlier today dumping off now very similar But hey made a really nice run from early So let's talk about this trade at least to begin ended up building up pretty nicely underneath resistance It broke above the pre-market top, but failed to break higher at first from 480 It seems like I mean it's just to say once it finally once it finally popped that 480 level There's no looking back. So, you know, really it made it like a near $2 move from that price from 480 up to 667 You know ended up making the lower high failed to really break higher if it's not gonna break higher There's only one other way it's gonna go Might sound redundant folks But I know a lot of us are joining C2 as a swing trader or as an investor for many years If not, you know as I'd said from traders talk yesterday even decades, so that's where I say You know, hey if it's not gonna break higher. What's the point on holding on to a stock for? 60 cents 80 cents down on a thousand shares It's a lot of money lost a lot more money than you then you really need to lose so RLX I was pretty excited to see this continue for the afternoon Just looks really flat right now though So you could see from before shortly after 12 p.m. Eastern time ended up starting to make that new high the day The push-up to 550 but again just fell completely flat. I mean not much happening on the stock right now All right, so I'll tell you what folks I'm gonna jump around right now I'm gonna just move to the loser side for one moment It's actually not even showing on the loser side But I always am transparent with you folks and I'll always tell you if I'm in a position I was gonna tell you about this but now it's starting to make the push up It was in a little indecisive of a state as I started the meeting But we've been on this OCG and trade from Monday from yesterday this morning. It was shortable. So Full transparency. I'm in this trade right now from 860. We had called that out earlier as a support level I was short on this stock from the late morning early afternoon from 9. It was like crawling on the way down there So I got out of a short trade on this stock just earlier here It dropped off a lot more so I had this from the corner of my eye Before we started the meeting and I see it snake back up pretty fast. I'm thinking well That's pretty odd. It just shook down. I left some money on the table on my short position It's not gonna break any lower folks Right, so, you know, it's all dependent upon taking the trade from a very strong level 850 is a strong level But also 860 was to I'm long on this trade from 860 or 861 And we'll see if this trade can make the push back up to 9 I wouldn't be surprised if I put this on the main watch list by the end of this meeting here It's you know, very tradable. We'll come back to it at the end Just give one last look on it I just wanted to let you folks know I would have went to this anyway if it broke down I would have gone to it as we you know went to the loser side I would have told you I'd take like a 3 cent loss or 2 cent loss on it. I got my stop set. So The fact that popped up I wanted to just let you folks know in advance in case if this like flies up to 9 as we continue here All right So keep it going see if we run back into the OCG and trade in a moment plug very choppy right now I think there was some news on plug from early this morning and pre-market in regards to like Oppenheimer Some major firm. I think oh Morgan Stanley, pardon me there Morgan Stanley They ended up providing a $40 price target unplugged this morning You know, I mean, that's not too far out of reach So, you know, that's kind of a normal price target perhaps for this trade But hey made a nice little pop after the open it got choppy shortly after but made higher lows pushed up to make a higher high Right now. It's holding under 3350 in the high of the day here But you know nice trade from earlier today. Maybe keep an eye on it come tomorrow morning. Good sideless stock perhaps This an F cell Tell you what aside from the PLT trade which doesn't look that great here I wanted to just at least check this stock out as it's been a familiar runner for us over the last two to three weeks There isn't really a whole lot on the on the gainer side. That's really catching my eye Market ended up making a nice bounce shortly after the open right around 10 o'clock 10 30 It did broke a new high just before here. I don't know if this is based off of any sort of minutes meeting that ended up Concluding I know that there weren't any major Fed meetings today So that could have been the smaller tinier Fed minutes meeting Uncertain, but that's why you probably have that whack you spike up and down on the spy ticker here You know for right now We'll hop over to the loser side seeing if there's anything looking just as good if not better OCG ends at 871 not really much happened since oh This one looks interesting GRWG at the low of the day and I caught that and watch 2080 here from the corner up there it is in the corner of my eye I saw that guy pop in you can't hide from me I got an 11,000 share iceberg order on the bid at 2080 right off the low of the day practically it is shortable All right, cool And bill confirms it was the minutes meeting that concluded That's what I figured any like wacky movement on the spy or a major index at two o'clock You know something some big meeting ended or perhaps a smaller Fed minutes meeting ended The next major FOMC. I think is not up until November 2nd and 3rd. I'm not mistaken there folks Ah, not SPRT here, but actually for any of our like long long long time C2 students. I'm talking 2015 SRPT I haven't seen these guys in a long time because well you could see based on the daily chart they Ended up like exploding over time But man, I forgot about this stock later, right a whole a wall of famer She says not just from the run up over time, but we're talking back from 2017 2016 this big pop Back here 2015 off a gap up and run You always forget about these stocks at times either way the stock just too expensive right now Just pretty funny running into it at least there, right? All right, so let's see what else we got here folks, of course today being Wednesday We'll talk about a little bitcoin a little crypto here at the end. I want to show you a new chart It's not to say new if you're if you've been into crypto. You really should be following this chart I haven't shown it at all During these reviews. So I find it useful to show it now Let's see if there's anything else otherwise though Not much that I see on the loser side. Uh, how about that anyone see that's today d8s Holy smokes talk about a crush job Oh my goodness. All right. So d8s really quick d8s came out like news this morning and pretty decent news I mean, you know, I don't I don't think many of us are familiar with the company barstool sports Uh, they're an emerging media company that they're catering more towards, you know, younger adults teens even but You know, they're more into the sports gambling world and social media. They're all over twitter and instagram They ended up announcing a deal with barstool for like a multi-channel national marketing campaign. Cool. That sounds good Stock ended up making a nice move after the market opened ended up approaching all-time highs or getting closer to them Ended up beginning to snap down out of nowhere ended up just plunging shortly after I thought it was news in relation to a common stock offering I don't think there was anything folks on this trade. I didn't see any news on the d8s shares Trading lower amid a pullback following the stock's recent run. That's all I got there That took me by surprise. But once the stock drops this much gets halted on the way down We say it all the time. It's a wrap. It's a game over So, I don't know that that's the only thing that was kind of interesting if it was shortable Then I'd be all over this trade into the close. How would I not be? But it's hard to borrow. You can't short it All right, folks, we're gonna do it. We're gonna put ocgn on the watch list here Certainly, I'm more hopeful to see a nice run into the close. I'm doing all right on the trade still So I think that alone gives me enough merit to put this on the afternoon watch list if it ends up pulling back Shortly after we finish up this meeting. Well, hey, it is shortable. So perhaps it could continue on the way down So, you know, we actually talked about that yesterday. Actually, how about this? I'll go to this just to prove my point Rrd we talked about it folks for a stock that's shortable You know, this one was at the highs, but you know, it was near the highs heading into the close If it's not going to break higher. I told you stocks don't, you know, do triple axle back flips The chart goes from left to right stocks go up and down if the stock's not going to break higher heading into the close Right here. It's going to go only one other way So hey ocgn, I hope I kill it on this trade on the way up It'll be that'll be nice because I I did all right earlier on But like I said, it took the it took a little while to get the ball rolling in terms of my profits So if this can keep popping god bless if it doesn't and right now the opening bell print price Just see if folks know this might be the level where it pulls back Let's say 875 is the opening bell print on ocgn this morning 258 000 share print on the tape. You could see it from level four So that would be a strong level. We'll see if this could end up breaking over that price All right, so folks as always on on at least monday wednesday friday gonna flap the gums a bit about bitcoin and crypto Perhaps all together if there's anything else that ends up making a pop by the end of this meeting. Let me know all right All right, so crypto here. We are here is the hourly chart at least I didn't move my vertical line from the last time we talked about crypto dating back to the 11th So let's just do that to just give you a quick little glimpse from the last time we talked about it You know where it went what it did So a little pullback. This is the hourly chart. So it ended up dipping down pretty cleanly To the 200 ema on my hourly chart So I find that to be pretty interesting ended up pushing right back up And from this point my belief then if i'm wrong i'm wrong, but I think we're gonna be right here I think we're gonna keep on going for a little while Now the chart that I wanted to show you and i'll jump to cardano in a moment and perhaps I got from skip here I can't go through every crypto and I say that to anyone else because we're gonna go over shiba inu for skip here in the chat board But after that we'll finish up, but it's to say I want to go over this Oh, come on.  I got to make me sign up. Here's what I want to show though Let's see if I have enough time to show this in time here So for all of us inside the trading room, you rarely ever hear me talk about indicators, let alone Fibonacci retracements or extension lines here, but you know, hey I start to play around with them on my own on the back end I don't use them for stock trading as much, you know over time the more I use them I will be but with a fib extension line like this I found this to be pretty cool because with the monthly chart on bitcoin It ended up playing out pretty nicely. Let's see if I can load this up pretty quick before it gives me the boot Now this chart here just so you folks know This is what's called the bitcoin dominance chart when bitcoin begins to Make a stronger run compared to the altcoins then this pops When the altcoins begin to make a stronger move up or down compared to bitcoin then this drops So you could see dating back to you know march of 2017 practically all the way down to january Well, actually this chart dropped off what that what that what that actually means is that when everything was moving up The altcoins were moving at a faster rate Okay, well, why is this important because back when bitcoin peaked in 2018? Well, guess what this ended up going up That doesn't mean bitcoin went up. That just means that the altcoins dropped way faster than bitcoin did when everything crashed All right, well look at this Back down again, right? This is dating back to january of this year So this means that the altcoins started to make a stronger move in its direction compared to bitcoin Well, this is the october candle Little pop back up. What does that mean? That means that as bitcoin's been pushing up and up and up and up A lot of these altcoins haven't been my cardano my precious and lovely cardano. What's happening here, right? Don't worry about it folks. We're all in the clear rising tide lifts all boats I believe now it is to say going back to this chart What happened back in november of 2017? Well, this is october or september or this october right here This is november What that means is that as we ended up going into the fourth quarter of 2017 The altcoins ended up making a much sharper run up compared to bitcoin So for anyone that's in these altcoins ethereum cardano light coin For anyone of us there ripple solana, you name it. I still have high conviction Should we happen to see the bitcoin dominance fall back down? We're gonna see a nice run on altcoins again folks And if we're trying to use the fifth extension levels as a nice gauge then Now you could try and plot it over time We'll kind of track this intermittently as we continue to go But I just wanted to kind of express that, you know, you might be wondering why aren't the altcoins going up You know, that's something to keep a very good eye of this bitcoin dominance chart This is the first time that I've shown this chart to you folks I've been on this for a little while myself, but I didn't really feel as compelled to discuss it as much up until now All right, there we go. Christopher. Love that. We're hodling the whole way through All right, let's get to uh, I know skip wanted to just show sheba inu. I'm not in this at all It's like a cheap micro-crypto coin. You know, it's like a fraction of a penny.  So, you know, we might happen to see retracement over time skip Uh, this is the six hour graph too. So even if I go to an hourly, it wouldn't shock me if this drops down to perhaps closer to the 500 EMA maybe in between here All right All right, that's all you got for me on bitcoin today and otherwise all crypto. We'll we'll talk all about crypto I just combined the words Bitcoin and crypto crypto in I'm going to talk all about crypto coming up on friday at the end of this week I think I've done enough talking here for this afternoon with that in mind. All right, folks We're going to call it for right now. We're going to keep ocg and on the main watch list I say it that way because well it pulled back below my 875 So i'm not out of the woods just yet on my long trade from 860 But still very tradeable stocks so far and actually before we finish up I don't think anyone typed anything here in the chat board lastly and we just jump right to social media here JSP arm now making the pop there we go great reminder from one of us on youtube rgf getting 40 cents on it right now He was in from 1577 timely exit although a push up higher, you know, it's it's new money now So nice trade. This is the second wind type of move that we're seeing here I guess this is enough for me to put this on the main, you know watch list I always like to say this before we part ways, but it's not the c2 trade list folks We're not forced to trade this jspr if you're more keen on following a and y grwg is a short ocg and with me perhaps Well, you have every reason to this stock has a really thin order book So hey if you're in this stock right now, let's keep hoping for the push up But there's plenty of other fish out there folks for us to try and catch with just about 60 minutes to go all right Kplt from our good friend Mitch Connor at the end Up 5% Hmm ended up popping earlier. So you probably called it out off the pop since unfortunately ended up pulling back I don't know. This could be on our side list. It wouldn't hurt me to put it on the main list perhaps All right, let's hope for this to continue to push up It seems to be off of a prior resistance here So hopefully sooner than later will happen to see this push back up all 515 517 ish and get back going up. All right Folks, I think that's just a just about going to be it from me here for right now So for all of us on facebook live youtube, I appreciate you sticking with me each and every day each and every afternoon Uh, I always try and do this every day Although I don't if you have any questions feel more than free to send over a quick email right to me Josh at c2 trading.com if you're ready to join us live inside our trading room different story Go right down to the link on the banner below that is at the stream Just to get yourself started for the 125 of us there right now including christopher bryan bill skip Got dan got our later here. Perfect. All right folks. 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Hey guys, it's Nate, AKA The Foot Accountant. Welcome back to the channel. We have ourselves a brand new promo coming to FIFA 22 Ultimate Team very soon. It looks like it's called Foot Freeze Versus and there's two car designs on the loading screen.  I don't even know if that's the exact wording or name of the cards, but this loading screen looks insane and there's a lot of leaks going around and we're trying to figure out what this promo is going to be about. There's a lot of information out there, a lot of ideas, a lot of theories, and hopefully those get cleared up as we move into the promo on Friday because this looks really interesting and really, really cool. It looks like Foot Freeze with a twist on it, right? Of course, we knew last year Foot Freeze is a promo where they did a lot of position changes with some really cool cards. And again, the car designs, as we see, look like the Foot Freeze, but it looks like this year this versus part to it. There's gonna be like two different versions of the card, which is very, very interesting. So I wanna talk about that promo and everything we know as of right now and all the leaks, of course, that are going on with that and also talk about the market because we do have a confirmed rating and a confirmed winner, Vinny Jr. has won the La Liga Player of the Month. That is leaked, right? So I think that SBC is gonna come out tomorrow and Friday. There's a slight chance it could come out early today but I think it's gonna be a Friday release. And the market started preparing for that as well. We talked about that SBC a lot yesterday. I think there's gonna be more to talk about. There's already more market movements are happening because of it. And also the Suley upgrade happened and some road to the knockout cards dropped off big time with some teams not getting wins yesterday. Some of them went up as well, so we'll talk about that. And I wanna talk about team of the group stage cards. I know a lot of you guys, even though we have a new promo on the horizon, you're very curious about these items. These cards actually dropped yesterday on foot because EA dropped lightning rounds on a Wednesday. It was actually kind of crazy. So let's get into this promo though and talk about foot freeze versus, right? Foot freeze, again, you look at the car design. It looks similar to the foot freeze card that we had last year with the ice around the edges with like the shattering and like the ice basically, right, frozen, right? But now we have two different car designs and this is where a lot of the confusion is what are the two different versions? Some people are saying that it's a five star weak foot and five star skill, like the red one, the fire might be the five star skill and then the ice might be the five star weak foot. That's, I don't think that's even confirmed. What we just know is we're gonna have some sort of versus, right? Supposedly it is gonna be cards impacts, objectives and SBCs are all going to have like two different items. Now, I don't know, again, we don't know if this is gonna be like rule breakers where it's like Nkunku had the two different SBCs, right? He had the shooting upgrade or the passing upgrade, right? Or maybe it was defending, I don't know, but there was two different versions of Nkunku. Is that gonna be how this is? Or is it gonna be like a skill move, weak foot promo? And are there gonna be position change, right? It seems like it's not for sure if there's gonna be position changes as a part of this as well. We're probably gonna learn more about that in the next day or so with an updated loading screen potentially today on Thursday. I would watch out for that because I bet they would add something to this to kind of show maybe what it means. Like if you think about the Adidas numbers up promo when they kind of give us some hints about how the cards are gonna work, that might happen today on a loading screen. I would expect this to be upgraded as a part of our Thursday content today. But a couple of the leaks, right? There's a lot of leaks that are floating around and these are what some of the guys are saying. Every car doesn't matter if it's in the packs with a team one or two SBCs, objectives, there's gonna be two versions, right? Again, team fire and team ice.  So it's gonna be like two different teams or two different types, two sets of players like intertwined into one promo week, right? That's how it seems at the moment. I don't know, this to me is obviously brand new. It's like foot freeze, but it's still different. I'm just really curious to know are there position changes, right? People are saying that there's not position changes. I mean, that would kind of, I guess, not be as hype as last year because a lot of what foot freeze was hyped for last year was the position changes. But the five star weak foot, five star skills, that's gonna impact this game because those are two very important things. Whether a car has a five star skill or weak foot boost, that's huge, right? And that is gonna impact the market. People are gonna sell items to go get those cards. So I'm very curious to see what these are, but that's kind of what we know as of right now. There's gonna be two different versions in some way, shape, or form. Cards are gonna have two different sets of stats. Now, of course, some of the names that have been leaked for this promo, Tagli Fico is supposed to be the objective player. On Friday, he's gonna get dropped with a Fire and Ice design again. That's part of that. We're gonna go back to this tweet and talk about Vinny in a second. But some of the other cards, these are like official stats as well. Now, I don't know if this is like, all the car designs here are shown with the red, like the Fire version. But look at this Joe Gomez, 85 pace, 87 defense, 86 physical, Gabriel Jesus was 93 pace, 87 shooting, 91 dribbling. You've got a Rashford here with 93 pace, 92 dribbling, 87 shot. I mean, these are confirmed stats and players that are in this promo. I know it's again, if you don't like leaks, this is again, just such a big topic at the moment, but it's crazy to look at these cards and the boost that they're getting. Look at this, Anhel Correa, five star weak foot, right? 88 pace, 89 shot, 90 dribbling. This card is gonna be disgustingly cracked. His gold item is so good already in the game. And then there's supposedly another showdown SBC that is leaked as well. Coming sometime soon, a Condogbia and a Lucas Vasquez. Showdown SBC is supposedly gonna be dropping pretty soon between the Atletico and Real Madrid. Matchup that is coming. So that's a leak that is out there as well. But a Dometray, all right, look at this card, man. 98 pace, 91 dribbling, 89 physical. That's crazy. That's crazy, that's crazy right there. So again, we don't know how these boosts are gonna work, but some of the cards that are in this promo with stats confirmed, Mbabu, 91 pace, 85 defense, 84 physical, Claude Maurice, look at this card, man. 90 pace, 80 physical, green link to the Rats, Ben Yetter, 87 dribbling. This guy is a really good, you know, inform already in this game. Give this guy this sort of card in this game of FIFA with the French links. It's gonna be crazy, man. Also a Schultz, a German left back with some pace. That's a really nice Bundesliga left back right there. So there's just a ton that is going on right now. A lot of these cards are getting leaked on Twitter. You're seeing stats and stuff like that. So there's a lot of question marks, but there's also a lot of things that are, I guess you could say, quote unquote, confirmed as well for these cards. Now we have not seen yet the card designs like added to the market, I'm pretty sure. I don't think they've been actually added to the code yet. So I don't see them in here in the game. So again, there's just, there's a lot of questions, right? The all we know is this promo is coming and it's coming on Friday. And it, I mean, five star week foot, five star skill upgrades, that's gonna impact the market regardless. I mean, I know that we have a lot of other promo cards throughout in this game that are just very exciting. You're very fun to use. Then people like to try these promo cards, especially with the gold market being so cheap this year. This Jota is so cheap right now, 427K. People like using promo cards, right? Cause it fills that gap between the elite tier cards in this game and like your golds that have just been so cheap all year long because of supply. There's such an emphasis, you know, pushed and placed on promo cards this year for people to put in their teams to continue upgrading their squads. I feel like this is gonna be a perfect opportunity for EA to drop the market with some insane cards via SBC, via objectives, via cards that are on the market because people love the weak foot and skills upgrade. If that's what this promo is about, five star week foot, five star skills with like the fire and ice versions, then that's crazy. And if there's position changes as well on top of those, then that's gonna make this market is gonna, I mean, people are gonna sell so many types of cards on this game to go and attain these brand new items on this market, right? I would really expect the market to take a big hit if there were position changes and like five star week foot, five star skill boost because that would just be like an overload of insane players dropping on this game that we originally have not seen yet before, right? We haven't seen that many week foot or skill move boosts. We've seen a couple, right? Like some of the SBCs and foundations have gotten some week foot skill move boost. They know a plus one here or there, but it hasn't been like all around with a promo team yet. So you've seen a little bit of sell-off on the market like I just looked at that Jota he was down. I think one of the biggest cards that's actually being panic sold right now is this Renato Sanchez. This is actually a little bit surprising. I think it might be because of the Claude Maurice leaks for a leak one center mid. This Renato Sanchez right now, 795K, he's down 100,000 coins. I think that like just all the insane cards that are being leaked right now has caused this card to drop down a decent amount. But the rest of the market is just kind of chilling, right? So as we figured out more about that promo, that could impact some potential panic selling later on. I still feel like this market, a lot of people with today, right? As we transition to talking about like today with weakening rewards and with Thursday market, I feel like there's still a lot of people that have to go out and play games. So you know that Jota card, like I'm tempted if I had coins actually, right now I'm in dire need of a few sales so that I can go out and pick some cards up to try to trade after rewards. But this Jota, like he was literally 460 all day yesterday, he's got one page of cards to like 460,000 coins, I believe, yeah, one page of cards. Like that one that was at 427, that's really, really cheap. So if I had like, you know, 500K right now, I think this Jota might go back up to that for rewards. You might see a few bounce backs. I actually splashed some cash on some Vinny Inforums. So I'm hoping for a bounce back on that today. But as we learn more about what this foot freeze promo is like, there could be some more panic selling because again, position changes, five star week foot skill moves, that would make some people sell cards to get coins to try out brand new cards on this game. So just be careful with that and just kind of keep that in the back of your mind as we maybe get another loading screen today talking about some stuff. But speaking about the market right now, let's talk about team of the group stage cards. We have rewards today. Soon after this video goes live, very soon after. Rewards is gonna be released. And these team of the group stage cards are pretty low. A lot of them have dropped off in price from where they were on a Wednesday. Now some of this is just people selling cards before the rewards timeframe. But part of what also happened is EA dropped lightning rounds yesterday. They dropped 50K, 100K and 125K lightning round packs on a Wednesday, which is crazy, right? I mean, EA just dropping preview packs, lightning rounds whenever they want this year. It's just kind of wild, man. It really is just crazy to me the amount of packs that they're dropping on this game. So you've seen these cards drop off a bit, right? Lewa was like 270, he's now down to 230. A lot of these group stage cards have dropped off. And I think they're going to rise after rewards.   And if people want to try some of these cards out, again, you have a lot of gameplay demand on a Thursday. People playing their footchamps, qualifications games to get in for the weekend league. The team of the week this week is absolutely abysmal, right? You've got basically the whole entire team is at fodder price, or like quote unquote, discard, except for Bernardo Silva and Kingsley Coleman and Immobilay actually. And this whole team is gonna drop in price. Silva, Coleman and Immobilay are gonna drop in price today with them getting supplied and then drop even more on the weekend with the red team of the week packs that are given out and again, the lightning round supply. So this team of the week is not good, which you might say hurts a little bit of like the demand for weekend league. But if you have an insane promo coming out, people are gonna wanna play weekend league so that they can get packs and rewards to open during the promo. So I think there's gonna be gameplay demand today and with the price drop offs that you've seen, I think that some of these group stage cards will rise up. So during rewards, if you wanna try to make a buy on a few of these, like look at Kiesa, Kiesa was 245 and was down to 219, went back up to 226 and right now he's 216, right? In the quiet before the rewards timeframe, these guys have dropped back down. Marquinhos was down at 475, he's actually back up. I was looking to get him and I didn't. I did buy a couple Leventoskis at 230. I like that card. I like Kiesa, I like Nkunku. Bruno was actually all the way down during the lightning rounds at 730K. Look at this drop. He went from 905 down to 730. He's back up almost 100,000 coins. 730 was honestly pretty cheap for that card. So he rebounded back. Trent is low, Antony's dropped down a lot. Thiagoja low is down a lot. I do expect some of these cards to rebound back today after rewards. And I do think that some of the other meta parts of the market might rebound back. Like some of the gold cards, maybe like a Veran, because he is down, Mendi with links to a potential leaked SBC that might be coming today as well. We'll talk about that. So, you know, I do think you will see a little market rise after rewards, but then today at 6 p.m. on Thursday with the content that maybe we do get with a player SBC or a team of the group stage SBC that's leaked and more information about the foot freeze promo versus a portion of that promo. I'm looking to quick flip this stuff. If you're buying anything for a rewards rise, I'm probably selling it around the 6 p.m. timeframe or before then.  And that could be a case right there. So let's talk about some other panic selling, right? You've noticed that this Vinny Jr. card is down. Yesterday, there was a lot of leaks about this Vinny card and you can see that his price was affected because of it. 670K down to 599. He's in like the 599-600 range right now on this team of the group stage card. Now it was confirmed yesterday. Where's the tweet? Right here. It was confirmed by a very trusted leak source that Vinny has won LaLiga Player of the Month. But these team of the group stage cards are not seen as a performance-based inform since they didn't upgrade the ones to watches. So when EA is doing Player of the Months, they're actually doing the upgrades off of Vinny Jr.'s 85 inform. So he's getting a plus two off this 85 and the Player of the Month is going to be 87 rated. Now I think that SBC is going to be dropping tomorrow, but that might mean that SBC is a little cheaper and it's not as big of an upgrade. It really depends on the price of this SBC to me, especially now since it's confirmed and you've got some people panic selling these cards. It really depends on the price of this SBC for me if it's worth it, right? If this SBC is anything less than like 800K, people are going to make probably some form of an attempt to craft it while it's out for like a month. Now yesterday when this Vinny was panic sold, I bought five informed Vinny's and like 315 to 318,000 coins. Now I've sold two of them to Lazy's because he did bounce back to like 340 and I'm going to hold these after awards, right? I'm not getting them out. He's down to 320 again. I think that after awards today, he might rebound back up and go back to that 340 or 350 range and hopefully get out of him there. I bought an edto to try to flip into trade and I've got my other Ube McConnell still chilling here, but I made a couple buys again. Like I said, I bought a Levandowski 230, 227 and I bought a Tiago Jaloh because I think those were just really cheap. I do think those are going to rise today. So there's some transparency on the transfer list right there. And that's kind of what I'm expecting for today on this game. I just need, okay, eto sold at 155. I'm literally considering right now if both of these etos would for some reason sell. I'm hoping to get my eto out. I will literally break even on my eto card so that I can go buy more team of the group stages and stuff before rewards. So that's kind of what I have no coins right now. This eto's kind of locking them up. So I'm trying to sell some cards so that I can go buy some more and make some quick flip investment with those coins right there. Now another thing to talk about, and this is actually another thing that is a leak that we have two more things to speak about in this video really fast. Another quote unquote leak that we have is a team of the group stage SBC, Etian Kapu. This was released yesterday. It did not come out. I think this SBC might be coming today. Right, of course, team of the group stage. It's gotta come before the end of team of the group stage. And supposedly this card is Hulet Gang, a Hulet Gang, Etian Kapu. And just to kind of give you an idea of what that card's gonna look like, if I can find him, he was on the popular page. He's not anymore. Let me search up Kapu for you guys really fast because if this guy is getting a Hulet Gang card or almost Hulet Gang, look at his pace, 48 paced. That means that this guy is getting a team of the group stage cards with like plus 30 paced.  That's kind of wild. So a stat that is not good though is his agility, but this card has insane links. He is French and in La Liga. I think who links to him, right? Benzema, Fakir. EA is playing straight into the hands of the FIFA user base right now. So with this SBC, I don't know how it's gonna be priced, you know, but so many people are gonna be inclined to do it. Crafting it through 75 plus player picks, their fodder to have from that, maybe. And just the links that this card provides will be interesting. I wanna see the card in SBC that is released today and how much of course the price is, but that is a potential piece of content that might be coming today on Thursday. Couple other things that are going on in this market, right? The Suley has been upgraded. That was a fast upgrade, GGs to EA Sports. I think it was like four to five hours after the game. The Suley got upgraded to a 90, he got the plus two because Bayern won a 3-0 yesterday. And so this card is looking disgusting, it looks so good. So GGs, if you did the Suley SBC, that card is looking really, really nice right now at the moment. And you also had a lot of road to the knockout action, which yesterday wasn't a great day to trade with road to the knockouts because a lot of the cards that you could have made profit on, you know, they went down, right? Of course, one big game was postponed until today. We're gonna have more road to the knockouts live action today. So there's gonna be more opportunity to trade with some of the Europa League and the conference league cards with fluctuations. But Fred's card went down a lot, man, because they could not win against young boys with the whatever B squad they played yesterday. It was crazy to see the squad that were released and who played for the game. Fred was looking like he was gonna be a 500K card. And I fully believe that he was going to, but they did not end up winning the game. So he went down to 370s post-game. He's back up to 400K now. And I honestly think this D young is still overpriced. 600K for this D young card. I know that he's got plus three pace and plus three defense over the 88 rated item. But I still think this card should be like 500,000 coins. I think this is still like 100,000 coins overpriced even though he did drop off about 100K from where he was. So I don't know, man, that one's just a bit confusing to me. But I guess LaLiga links are kind of hyped at the moment right now and these cards are rare. But Jesus Navas card, his card went down in price, Werner's even went down. So again, Varice Mel went extinct though because of course Benfica is through ahead of Barcelona and he's gonna go to an 84 rated card when these upgrade. So there was a lot of actual down movements yesterday on those items. But a lot of the road to the knockouts just keep chilling in price, right? Sanes 310, Graven Birch is almost up at 100K probably because of those Tagli Fico links as well or leaks. So today we're kind of taking a look at the up, you know, Esok, your Fakir cards playing, the Treore and the Sun. Suppose that this game is postponed because of some COVID stuff. So the games that are postponed, just be careful with those until they're, you know, they're gonna be played. There might be some delay. I don't know what's gonna happen with those. But of course the game between Atalanta and Valencia yesterday or is it Valencia? I forget the team that, what is this team? What is this team? It's Villarreal, Villarreal and Atalanta, not Valencia. Villarreal, so Dan Juma and Joaquim Mele, AKA the mailman. Their game's gonna be today. It was supposed to be yesterday. It's gonna be today. So there's gonna be more fluctuations with these cards. Again, if the promo this weekend is insane and the market drops because of it, you might see a few of these cards drop down some as well. It just depends on when the upgrade for the road to the knockouts is gonna end up coming through. So we're gonna keep an eye on that. Let's go, man, another Atal sold. Come on, if this guy sells, then the cheapest one on the market unless somebody else lists is 1.6 mil. I'm gonna undercut that by 5K and hopefully get the sale, man. That would be fantastic. So that is kind of what is going on with my account right now at the moment. I'm trying to get some coins so I can buy some more cards before rewards. But that's the video for today, boys, right? And insane promo looks to be coming. There's gonna be rewards today. I do expect a little market rise and maybe some more interesting content today on Thursday as well. Alongside of our normal marquee matchups, that should be the content. Maybe that Team The Group Stage Kapoo SBC, a loading screen and marquee matchups today on this game. So that's the video for today. If you did enjoy, smash the thumbs up on a comment down below if you have any questions and subscribe if you're new. It's been Nathan Foot Account and I'll catch you guys later. Peace.