Us Christians don't care. We don't think about Lil Nas X. And we won't let, uh, did you hear that? You can't fart when you talk about Lil Nas X. I'm flurring. Ha ha ha ha!  I just did. Why? Yep y'all. I mean the guy, Andrew Schultz.  Whether you're just starting out or managing a growing brand, Squarespace makes it easy to create a beautiful website, engage with your audience, and sell anything from products to content to time all in one place, all on your terms.  Hezzy! What's up? Man, thank God you're not a football fan, man. Why? Because you don't care. You don't care about what's happening in the NFL playoffs right now. What's happening? You have no emotional attachment to anything. What's happening? I mean, for me, my Dallas Cowboys lost. But I feel like you'd get used to this by now. Yeah, I don't even care. Like, it's just like, yo, people get mad at me. Like, this morning on the radio, they're like, yo, you know, you gotta stop saying to Cowboys going to the Super Bowl every day. What else am I supposed to say? We're going to be 12 and five, and we're going to get eliminated in the wildcard play. Yeah, you can't say that.  You're not realistic when it comes to your football team. Exactly, you're supposed to dream. That's why we do it.    Why do you think you suck?  I just think it's one of those things, lack of discipline. It's interesting though, right? Because you think about the Dallas Cowboys, they are the world's most valuable sports franchise, period. More than soccer team? More than soccer team. They're the most valuable sports franchise, period. What's this, Alex? What was that? What was that? You know what I'm saying? What was that? I don't think it's an accurate statement. Look it up. I'm not 100% sure. Go and google it. Go and google it, then. That really, y'all. Charlotte's sensitive today, y'all. I just want to let you know. That really bothered him, y'all. No, but you don't. What is this, y'all? You don't like, hey, what is this, y'all? What is this, y'all? Why? You don't got to hit the speedy when he's giving you facts. That could have been India. What does that mean, bro? They're agreeing with you. Do you know how they agree like that? Indians? Indians. They're called Indians. Shout out to all the Indian studs out there. Shout out to Indians. Don't cancel us. We got that from the kids on TikTok. That's it. The kids on TikTok are calling. They smelling strap ones on TikTok. God damn. Yo, come on, Charlotte. Charlotte, Charlotte. Yo, you're not taking a whiff of that Indian strap? God damn. Yo, come on. Damn. Come on.  You wouldn't take one. Fire. You wouldn't take one little whiff. Apologize. Apologize for what? Apologize, Dallas. And when you do it, do this too. Yeah, I'm sorry. Apologize. Apologize. Apologize. It's not going to change. They're the most valuable sports team. The Dallas Cowboys. Too late to apologize. Jerry Jones and the Cowboys have by far the number one with a value of $9 billion, almost $2 billion more than his closest rival to New York Yankees. All right, I'm wrong. I don't know.  They are, man. I'm saying it's so interesting, like a team that has a, what's their record?  Okay, so what happened? So Green Bay. The Green Bay Fudge Packers, man.     Cowboys were a number two seed, won the NFC East. The Packers were like number seven. So Packers didn't even close. Strapped it on. Strapped it on. Strapped it on.   Damn, bro. Oh, man. Right up. So here's the thing. Here's the most interesting thing about the Dallas Cowboys, right? Most valuable franchise in sports. $9 billion. Jerry Jones is worth $13.5 billion. So half of his net worth is tied up in the Dallas Cowboys. Probably. I mean, he was a billionaire before. That's why he was able to buy him. But why do we as a people believe that there are people out here selling their souls for movies? Selling their souls for record deals? I like where you going? Selling their souls to be all types. I like where you going with this. But Jerry Jones, who has all of this money, can't buy success for the Dallas Cowboys. There's nobody to be sacrificed in Dallas. Why doesn't he ever get the Illuminati? Wait, did he not win the championships back in the day? Yes. They won in 92, 94, 96. So. No. Yeah, 92, 94, 96 they won. Because they won back to back. And then they won again in 96. I wasn't 93, 94, 96. I think it might have been 93, 90. Let me look it up. I'm pretty sure. It doesn't matter. So he's already won championships. Yes. So he has nothing to prove. Or was he like, was he not the GM when they won the championships? No, he was the owner. He was the owner. Well, Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones technically had the GM title, but Jimmy Johnson was handling all of the on-field duties. So it was all Jimmy getting the credit.  And then you know they had their little spat.  And Jerry was like, you know, anybody can coach this team. But in Barry Schvitzer. Barry Schvitzer came in and won a ring. He won, but they've been, they hit rock bottom ever since. My whole point is, how come people that don't really move the needle in society get Illuminati rumors? But Jerry Jones don't. Break it down. I'm trying to figure it out. Wait, why would he not have Illuminati rumors? Because he's not, you don't have no success. Even though they have- Three championships. That was in the 90s though. 29 years. 29 years with no rings. I mean- They just tried to put racism on him and he got out of that pretty quickly. That's Illuminati. That's Illuminati. That's Illuminati powers for a white girl.   Why wouldn't you be racist at some point in your life? Yeah, but didn't stick.    Like imagine, imagine you paid billions of dollars for a franchise and then you're paying tens of millions of dollars to these black dudes every single year.  Some of the greatest- Dak Prescott. No.  You know what I mean?  He's got some great talent, man. Even when you had Tony Romo as quarterback. Tony Romo statistically is the greatest Dallas Cowboy quarterback ever. Nothing. Shout out to Tony Romo. Nothing. Not an NFC championship game. What's Tony Romo with this team right here? What is he? Yeah. What do you mean? Super Bowl champion. Meaning if Tony Romo was quarterback now. Hmm. Hmm. I never thought about that. Tony Romo as a... Yes. They at least get to the NFC championship game. At least. Yes. I do believe that. At least. With that team right there. Come on now. Yes. Actually with the team from the last three years. Come on now. What? So, Dak is the only issue. No, no, no. He's not the only issue. I mean, the biggest issue is just a lack of discipline all around. Like, they're just a very undisciplined team. And I just think that's a year, that's 29 years of like, nobody cracking the whip. What? What? What? You're not going for the low-hanging jackfruit today? Yeah. You can't get me to coax on a statement like that. Are you trying to say that Jerry Jones should be cracking the whip on his players a little bit more? A little bit more. Or just somebody, they got to bring in a coach that can do it. Let me understand this. Bill Belichick. It's a figure of speech, Taylor. What's wrong with you? Let me understand this, Taylor. What Sean and me was saying is, it's that Jerry Jones has people that work for him on a field. And he's not the only one. He's not the only one. He's not the only one. He's not the only one. He's not the only one. There's people that work for him on a field. And that Charlemagne would like, if he cracked the whip on them, that he would get better production for them on the field. A little bit more disciplined. Is that more or less, is that what you're trying to say? Yeah. Gotcha. Absolutely. 100%. Bill Belichick, that's what we need.  But Bill Belichick don't want to deal with the... Nah, Jerry got to give up control. Jerry 81. That's the thing. Jerry, time is ticking literally and figuratively.  And he's ready to put his fingers in between your eyes.  Okay, bring Bill Belichick in. Let him be the GM. Let him be the coach. Let him handle all the on-field issues.  Because one thing that the Cowboys do, is they draft well. Bill Belichick has not historically drafted well. Yeah, was Bill Belichick overrated? No. Was Bill Belichick need to win another ring for us to not think he's overrated? Only because Tom Brady won once. Exactly, that's what I'm saying. So what better franchise for him to go to than a little doll of Cowboys?  You don't waste no time in Atlanta. Atlanta is rebuilding like you go to a team that is ready to go right now. That just needs a little bit more discipline. That's it. He gonna bring that discipline. He gonna bring the biggest... We got the biggest whip in the league. What you talking about, man? Yeah. He got more rings than the franchise. But he's used to whipping whites. That is another thing like... Whites and Latinos. He's great at whipping whites and Latinos. Like he can really crack that whip on the whites and Latinos and really get them to deliver on the field. Yes. Their production on that field is incredible, but I don't know if he can do it with the blacks. Who was he had? Oh. He didn't do that great with Hernandez. Hernandez, he did amazingly. Hernandez was an amazing titan. And... The murderer side? Yes. I mean, that's a big part. That has nothing to do with it. Showed up to practice. Discipline? Showed up to practice. The on-field issue. Showed up to practice. He can't handle what you do in your own time. If you want to murder people in your own time, that's fine. You want to do a drive-by at a bar? You know? That's right. Bill always encourages teams to blow off steam. Does he?  Very unproductive. Way to do things, but that's what he did. And he was a great titan. And he won Super Bowls too. You just broke the leg, so when you let go of that, it's fine. I thought you was pointing at his boots. When he talked about all his field work, those asleep boots, if I ain't never seen them. God damn. That was a nice one. What meditation you work on? These?  Them to Frederick Douglass 5. What you mean, man? Taylor, let's do some all means necessary. Come on, Taylor. What means are going on this week, Taylor? I don't think I really care about it. Probably not. Taylor Swift's swag surf was disgusting. Come on, stop hating. Nah, man.  What's wrong with that? Look at Taylor. Taylor's swag surf was garbage because they didn't even put their arms around each other. There was no love in it, man. I think you're just jealous that it was the most successful swag surf in history. Nah, it wasn't. There's never been a swag surf that has been bigger than that. Yes, there has. There hasn't. Name one. I don't even think people even knew what it was. See, if she would have took credit for it, and like, you know how the Kardashians would be like, yo, we got cornrows. Yeah. And so everybody would go to Kardashians, got cornrows. Them announcers didn't know what Taylor Swift was doing. Like, nobody watching the game said, yo, Taylor's leading the swag surf and Chief's sweet right now.  Now they'll know. But now they know, because Taylor put the swag surf song on the map. I don't think people knew that song before Taylor.  It's a black national anthem. Come on. It's literally a Negro spiritual. Like, it's right up there with Nuck if you buck. Regina Bell, God is good. Like, it's one of those. I mean, at the same time. I mean, at the same time. It's Christmas morning. It's past. It's past. It's played on New Year's Eve, bro. Yeah. I think it is for it should be for everybody. What are you doing, Taylor? Yeah. And then the thing I didn't like about it was when she pulled her like, she pulled her scully down like she was really killing it. Yeah, she killed that. She did. Look at her. Yeah. What is that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's not a surf. She wiping out, bro. That was bad. Ooh. Now Boosie is rough too. Yeah. Oh, man. I think Taylor got Boosie. Yeah. All due respect. I think Taylor got Boosie. You know. I think with all due respect. What does he do? I think Taylor got Boosie. You know. Has he never seen a swiss? I think he might. Yeah. I'm going to have to go Swift with that one. Thank you. The Shader Room really did it's a battle. Thank you. That was crazy. What's the comment saying? I think I got to go Taylor Swift with this one, man. You're not doing no damage. What is Boosie doing? Blowing. Boosie looks like he's actually drowning. It says Boosie fighting tidal waves. That's what I'm saying. He's fighting against the current. At least Taylor's just rocking in a boat. You know how you're in a boat and the boat's just rocking side to side? Boosie nuts. He said what? He said surf Boosie nuts. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Taylor riding the wave, man. Boosie is swimming in the current. Yeah, I'm going to go with Taylor. Yeah. Taylor's one of the greatest swag surfers in history. What she is, guys. Taylor, man. Taylor, what else we got? What memes do we got? It's too hot in here. I'm telling them to turn the heat down. Turn the heat down. I'm telling them to bring in a coffee. Like what? Swallowed. Why are you playing with the bishop? Why y'all keep playing with my bishop, man? That bishop, T.D. J. Swallowed. Swallowed. Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Taylor, that's fire, yo. Taylor, great find, yo. Taylor, that was good.  That's called a robe. He's a pastor.  He looked like Cersei Lannister. He looked like a bishop, man. What is he wearing, yo?  Swallowed up. Chris, don't forget who prayed for you, yo. Let me see it. Chris, don't forget who prayed for you. Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Swallowed up. Man, we are such an unserious people, man. Why are we such a... Why are we such an unserious people? Why do you say like that, yo? I gotta know the context. Can you call him real quick? Yeah, I'm not just calling the bishop. Call the good man. Salute to the goat, man. Bishop T.D. James. Have you ever been swallowed up? Have you ever been swallowed up? Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallowed up. Have you ever...  Yo, girls, girls gotta meme that and then get that into DMs, yo. Get that into DMs. Have you ever been swallowed? Taylor, say that to your booty. See what he's saying. Yo, send that to your man. What else we got, Taylor? What we got, man? We gonna run through these memes, man. What is that, boo? He ain't what? He was just talking about how he went to the location.  That's a few against nipples, Pierce.   Oh, man. I let women get all they pride.  That's not true. He's ironing. He's ironing. I'm done with him. He's literally doing laundry and ironing. Okay, that's one thing.   He's doing house chores, bro. Taylor, you was just talking about how you were a pillow princess. Oh. You was just talking about how you were a pillow princess. Oh, girl. What does that mean? Girls do things, guys do things that girls do. Yo, when a girl goes down on you, she said a pillow princess is a girl who gets eaten out but doesn't want to do anything in return. So you're like this? Is that what you do? By the way, that's most men dream. Swallow me up. Swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Swallow me up and I don't got to do nothing in return. Swallowed. Come on, man. You look welcome. I'm chilling. He just had his belly out. My belly's out. I'm just trying to get swallowed up. I'm just trying to get swallowed up. Swallowed up position. Taylor, how do you or do you go like this? Do you like that and then get it eaten from underneath? What is your position to get it eaten? Lily only happened one time.   Big one. It only happened one time in Aruba. Come on. Stop lying. Stop lying. So what were your legs? You went doggie? No. My legs were on her shoulder. God damn.  What are you talking about?  I said her shoulder. Still, you threw them on her shoulder? I'm still laying down. Did she grab your legs at the end put them up and wipe you afterwards? Wipe me now. No, I told you. I left because I was uncomfortable. What do you mean? Why are you uncomfortable? Legs too high, your hamstrings tight? It was like a whole thing that happened in Aruba. You're going to change in this story. You see how it happens? You see how it happens? Yes, you did. I got my pussier. I got my friend brought this couple home and we wanted to just me and my friends wanted to watch.   That's what happened and I left because we got too weird. What was weird about it? I was high.  She wasn't good though. But it was your idea to bring her back. No, it wasn't my idea. I was under the influence of drugs. It wasn't my idea. She was like, I'd let her do it till completion. I'm busting on her head. I'm busting on her head. I'm not in my business. Headshot, dead.  What else we got? This could go into... I'm going to say that for later then. Because it has to do with NBA.  Can we talk about NBA Young Boy? Can we talk about the song, bro? After this, and then we could go to it. Because it's something else that goes to it. Why the daddy side of the family is the fun side? Do you agree or disagree? No, not necessarily. Charlotte? In my family? I feel like in the black family, the dad side is funny. In my daddy and his cousins and his uncles, that's why I got all my entertainment growing up. Really? The best.  But they were throwing it out there. Oh, my God. Watching 3's company with my dad and his first cousins, my cousin Rao, them, incredible. I didn't know what was really going on back then, but when I think about it now, some of the best comedy I've ever seen in my life. What'd they do? They thought he was a gay slur because for whatever reason, it was kind of like watching a role-runner in Wally Coyote, because you know how you want Wally Coyote to catch the role-runner for whatever reason?  I don't know why they thought that. And I remember when, I remember when Dude died vividly. And that news came across the TV. And all I heard was, ah, I'm glad that punk died. You know what I'm saying?  Not one time, ain't but nothing. I'll never forget that. I'm like, it was a TV show. I'm now that I'm thinking about it. I'm like, it was a TV show. Why was they that passionate over a TV show? Come on, your dad believes, bro. He absolutely believes. Yeah, my daddy's side of the family. Alex, say for you. Can you feel South Carolina? Really? I mean, the poorer side is the funnier. That's the fact. Because all they got is humor. And that was the era before anything. There was no phones, no nothing. So everybody had to talk. There was never a lull in the conversation. The only time there was a lull in the conversation when everybody was too drunk or too high. Other than that... Oh my God. Non-fucking stop. Like, I have a story that my dad's cousin, Raell, tells about a time he thought a lion was in his yard and monks couldn't stop him. It runs in your family. It runs in a family. Just go sit. But he had every reason to think there was a lion in his yard. Okay, I'm sure he did. No, it was late at night. He drives into his yard. He sees a lion in the middle of his yard.  Turns the lights off. And he's sitting there. Just looking. And he said to himself, there's a lion laying in my yard. So he said he flashed the lights. Thinking the lion's going to get up and walk away. He said the lion does not move. So he says he turns the car on. Hits the gas. He said the lion still does not move.  He said the lion still doesn't move. He goes, hmm, so he gets out of the truck and he says he creeps up on the lion. And he goes, rah! And he runs back into the truck. So the lion still don't move. He creeps back to the lion again. Rah! Run back to the truck. The lion still don't move.  Maybe I can make it to the house. He turns to the house, falls. Falls in like a mud puddle or something. Thinks the lion, hears him and wakes up, rushes to the door, beats on the door, gets in the house.  And he goes, there's a lion. Get my gun. There's a lion in the goddamn yard. So she looks at him and she goes, I bought that from the pottery store. It was like one of those... One of those... One of those lions statues. One of those lion statues.   That's what I grew up around. You know what I'm saying? I grew up around that kind of humor, bro. So yes, definitely my daddy's side of the family. Now can we talk about NBA Young Boy? So what's the deal with NBA Young Boy? Break it down for me. He has to live in Utah. He's on house arrest. He's not from Utah originally. Where is he from? Louisiana. So why is he not on house arrest in Louisiana? Do you get to choose which house you're under arrest in? Probably because he'll get into a lot of trouble. He's a celebrity. It's actually smart. Well, no, no, I'm just saying legally why are you allowed to just go to... And also is there an amount of acres that constitutes as house arrest? For example, let's say you live on a house that has a thousand acres. Is that still house arrest? Technically. You know what I mean? They can't tell you what kind of house to live in.  You know what I'm saying? I've never heard of an NBA Young Boy show. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure he would like to go out there and perform. The guy had, what, six number one albums? You know? It's nothing like going out to touch the people. But yeah, he's on house arrest. He's got 11 kids. My baby mom's. And he was sitting down with my guy, Boulay Kev. Child to Boulay Kev. He went to the good brother, Boulay Kev. He just played, Taylor. You do have a lot of children. You know, obviously, you do have a lot of children. And I've been around you just to see in a short amount of time that you're a great father. How important is fatherhood to you, man? Not really big on it. To be honest. What do you mean by that? You're not big on it? Like you're a family man. I'm here with you. I see it. Yeah, but I'm only, I'm only like in here because you will. Oh, well, I don't believe it. See, it's a crazy topic because I'm not the type, like the sugarcoating thing. But I'm four walls all day. Every day. When you say four walls, you mean locked in? Yeah. Just honed in on the music? Recording? Yeah. You can take the hat. I don't mind. We bond, we bond a lot. But we mostly did the inside. Working. No. Yeah, I don't even know what you've been. You got 11 kids.  You're not big on fatherhood, bro. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Yeah. You're big on fucking. You're definitely big on fucking. I just, you know, what child do you get to that you realize? I'm not really big on that. You know what I'm saying? Is it after two? Is it after four? Or like, you know, you got the 11, but yeah, I gave him donkey today for that. I mean, he always just seems so unbelievably high every time I see him in anything. Really? You don't think that? I don't think he could smoke on that. I thought that, you know, when I saw the, when I saw the interview he did with million dollars worth of game, I thought that, um, but yeah, he's on probation. You're on probation at house arrest. Like he can't, he can't be high. He's definitely smoking. I mean, nah. Even in that video, hold on. You're on probation at house arrest like that. I don't think he playing with the drugs like y'all think he is. I really don't. So if he's not, he's just pretending to be high? I don't know. I just think that's his draw. The way he talks, it's like that Louisiana draw. He looks out of it. He looks out of it. He looks exhausted. I mean, he's very on top of not wanting to go back to jail because like I heard all of his interviews that he does, he needs to approve it. So nothing goes out that can get him in trouble and send back to jail. But that's not him. That's his, that's his man. He's really adamant about it. Like he gets mad at people like, yo, I didn't approve this clip. Yeah, that's the stuff I don't, I get it. But you know, it's just like, yo, don't put yourself in that position then. Like, you know, if you don't feel like doing the interview that day, don't do the interview that day. Yo, I mean, not to be conspiracy theorist here, but like, do you think that like his, his record label loves this setup? It's like the perfect set up for a record label. Hey, here's this guy who's dangerous rapper. If he's out in the streets, he might get shot or he might go to jail. Let's put him in a place where he literally cannot leave and just produces music. That's the only thing he can do all day is make music. He's like a dairy cow for the record label. And they're just milking them with the album. I can see that. Milking them with album.  We're going to squeeze so much money out of this kid. Very unique artist though, because there's not too many people who put out as much music as NBA Young Boys. And he's been doing this. Like this isn't something new. Like he's been putting out albums on top of albums forever. You know, because he was, this is his second record label. He was on Atlantic before, now he's on Capitol. And he's just so prolific that he can do it. I don't listen to a lot of NBA Young Boys. That's the thing. It's like I know of him from just kind of internet culture, but I don't know any of his songs.  I can't remember the name of it. Do you remember that record? No. Yeah, but I mean he's like these kids love him. He's only 24. I know and I heard, listen, I've heard all about him. There's no question, but like I don't know a banger that I could be like, oh yeah, that NBA Young Boys song. But if he's in a 360, wouldn't the labels hate this? Cause now he can't make any money on the road. That's if he's in a 360 and if they care about the road. But I wonder if the labels are, I wonder if the labels are just like, if he's on the road, we have to worry about him getting killed.  Like he just got a gun charge, right? So it's like, that's why he's locked up. So it's like, he's going to break the law most likely. And if he does, he gets put in jail. This is better than jail. Cause if he's in jail, he can't make us money. But if he's not in jail, he's on house arrest and you can make all the money in the world. Like I think that there are execs that are salivating over this. I mean, house arrest is probably the best thing for him. Cause who knows what could have happened over the last few years. You know what I mean? Sometimes you got to just sit there until you turn 25 when you're prefrontal cortex develops fully. You know what I mean? And you're able to make more rational decisions.  I mean, it's just, it's just a scientific fact. Your prefrontal cortex won't develop until you're 25. I mean, it's developed enough for most people to not... Is it? Yeah. I mean, when you think of him, right? So you think the only reason why he's lived this life is cause he doesn't have a prefrontal cortex that's developed? Why did Alex not do that? Alex who? Media. Did you know Alex when he was under 25? He was a police officer. Some of the craziest people you ever want to meet. That is true, actually. Some of the craziest motherfuckers you ever want to meet are police officers. Shout out to me. Shout out to NYPD. And then when I think of that, when I think of, like, I think of, like, John Morant and the decisions he's made. I think of Zion Williamson and the decisions he's made. Stop it. I'm just saying there's something to it. Stop it. I'm just saying. I mean, by the way, NBA Youngboy, the reason John Morant had the nickname NBA Dumbboy. NBA Gumboy. Dumbboy. Dumbboy. Yeah, it was NBA Youngboy, but they was calling John NBA Dumbboy. Are there any good bars about you? Like, is there a line where you're like, ooh, that was pretty good. I didn't listen to the whole thing. You can really understand them. I don't think he mentions me in the beginning, though. No, he says... Let me hear it in the beginning. I can tell you. Hey, hey, hey. The most impressive thing about this video is that he has a real live donkey in the video. That is so smart because that's tax deductible. If you have livestock on your property, whether it's like cows, pigs, chickens, I'm sure donkeys fall into that category. It's tax deductible. And the food for the livestock is tax deductible. Oh, really? Hell, yeah. So if he got all of them acres of land in Utah and real livestock like donkeys on his shit, fantastic. So you like it. You're into it.  Listen, I inspire art, guys. I don't know if y'all know this. I haven't inspired art for a long time. I don't know if y'all... Who do you think has the best bar on you? Bar on me or about me? Both. About me is Drake, and it's not even close. Which one? Send bottles for Charlemagne. I'm in Zanzibar and people are sending me bottles of wine because of that. I'm literally New Year's Eve last this year. Y'all knew I was in Zanzibar. Sending me bottles of... I'm gonna do the bottle for Charlemagne. They look at it. The bottle for Charlemagne. I'm serious. I'm serious. I'm like literally, it's like definitely that. About me, the best... Who had the best disc? I don't know. I don't even remember most of them at this point. There was some... I mean, there's been a lot of good ones. I don't remember who... Sounds like Drake. Drake had the best one about me. Drake might have had a the best disc too though, now that I think about it. What did he say? He said like Charlemagne, you see the lighter in the darker patches. That was a good one. That was a good one? That was a good one. Yo, do you think Drake is hip-hop or pop? Drake is absolutely hip-hop, bro. He's pop too though. Why would Mos Def say that? Well, he gotta ask that. Like let's not act like he just volunteered that. God damn, there's a ten times rapper's disc Charlemagne the Godless. Oh wow.  Taylor just pulled that up. You're loved, Charlemagne. Kanye? Kanye never dissed me in a song? I think maybe... I think this is just in general. In general, yeah.  Nipsey Hussle dissed you? Yeah, but that was out of that. That was wrong. Me and Nipsey have always been super cool. That was actually my fault. That was my fault. I would be funny and I forgot something. Could they say your name in there? I remember that. Yeah, me goes Charlemagne say the game donkey the other day. Western Rhymes was never in a lyric. That was just face-to-face confrontation. Amon Shumper. Amon Shumper's a rapper? Yeah. What did I say about Amon Shumper? Amon is definitely... Tell Charlemagne when he see me better holler at me, hater. Fire. Never heard that song. I don't remember that one. Maybe I do that for God. Is this it right now? No, I don't hear that. What's Amon Shumper? Yellow Wolf.  What do you say about me? Like Charlemagne, God hates me. Man, wish I felt accomplished by having such a prestigious over-achieving genius. Like Charlemagne to complain about me. Why can't somebody who's really done something doubt me? Wow. I like over-achieving genius. Riff Raff. Damn, what Riff Raff say? Yeah, he was kind of hard on the white rappers. He's kind of hard on the white rappers. I said, Riff Raff was Katy Perry's date to the VMAs last night. I will never ever tell myself what I can't do. That's not a diss? Sounds like you... That's not a diss. That's not a diss. That's not something you said. I did say that, but I was not a diss. All Riff Raff says, you can't be me. Fred Rowe's... This must be an old list. Yeah. Fred Rowe? Yes. That wasn't a rap record. Trinidad James? I don't remember none of these shit, yo. Joaquin? Charlemagne was pretty brutal in his takedown of the all-goat everything rappers' career.  God, that's why Drake said he's seen the darker and the lighter patches. Yeah, wow, that's crazy. That's wild. Listen, Drake is hip-hop, bro. Little twist?  How long is this list, yo? How long is this list, yo?  This is old. This has got to be an old list. Listen, Drake is hip-hop, but Drake is also everything else. Why would most even suggest that? Why wouldn't he just say exactly what you just said? And he also took some shots. He was like, it's like shopping music. Fantastic, fantastic bar. Stop hating. Yeah, it was fantastic. When he said that, when he was like, it's like shopping, something to shop to, aggressive shopping. Yeah, aggressive shopping. That was hilarious, bro. That was funny. But why is he taking shots at Drake, though? I think he would have asked a question and he answered it. Man, come on, bro. Stop it, stop it. I don't think he feels that. He might feel it, but like you still, you still... Let's see what he said. Let's see what he said. Like why are you even thinking about Drake in that way? They asked him. Watch. Drake is pop to me. In the sense that if I was in Target in Houston and I heard a Drake song, it feels like a lot of his music is compatible with shopping. Hilarious. Hilarious. Commercial music. Or shopping with an edge in certain instances. Hilarious. Fair. I like Drake's music, but I understand exactly what you're saying. It's commercial, entertaining, fun, good, formulaic music. It's likable. Likeable music, yeah. It's likable. But is it... Lena, I'm going to leave you alone. We're going to move. We're going to move on. Is Drake hip-hop? Most of that becomes so pretentious.  Nah, listen, that's most hip-hop hits. Yeah, but... Most of those like pure hip-hop heads, they would just want the bars. Like, most of them are pretentious, bro. Yeah, but when did he start talking like that? He been doing that for a while. Yeah, I've never known him not to talk like that. Stop it. Where's the two words most deaf? Where's the ruckus records most deaf? That's always been him. The ruckus records most deaf was not like... Shoppable. He was. I was. Like, that's why I love his role.  I love his role in Brown Sugar. You ever seen Brown Sugar? Yes. That's him at Brown Sugar. He plays the biggest most hip-hop pretentious rapper who won't even sign to a record label because they got the hip-hop donations.  You know? Most deaf is nice as hell rapping, bro. Very nice, but guess who else is nice? Drake. Aubrey fucking... No, no, no. All the old rappers don't like Drake, it seems. No, it's not that. It's that, at least in my opinion, I don't know what most deaf's motivation is, but to me, I think that there's always... And these guys are competitive people. They've dedicated their life to a craft and there's going to be envy for the people who are on top. And the price of being on top is the hate that comes with it, the resentment that comes with it, and even calling him not hip-hop. Nobody would say most deaf is not hip-hop.  So he's essentially carved out like a WNBA within the rap umbrella where like only the people where he's going to get to be the top of... He's going to get to be the MVP in the WNBA. Well, Drake is a hip-hop. He might rap, but he's not hip-hop, and I'm the MVP of the WNBA. But... I don't like the WNBA reference, but I get what you're saying. You're basically saying he carved out his own sub-genre. Yeah, which he can exclude the number one dude from and... Well, they're always going to do that to Drake for a number of reasons. Because they can't compete with him. Well, also... If you could compete with him, you wouldn't... Also because of the whole ghost-writing thing. That's really what I think a lot of it is.   I cannot fathom it. I agree with you. Listen, I totally disagree with both stuff. Because here's the thing, if Drake isn't hip-hop, then Kanye isn't hip-hop. Andre 3000 isn't hip-hop. Lauren Hill isn't hip-hop. Because all of these people have given you a whole lot of rap, right? Andre's given you a whole lot of rap. But then Andre decided to go experiment with other things. He decided to give you what he gave you on the speaker box to love below. He decided to give you a flute album. Kanye West has given you 808 heartbreaks. Like, you know, Lauren Hill has always experimented with R&B and rap. Like, if Drake isn't hip-hop, because he chooses to flirt with other genres, then there's so many artists who aren't hip-hop. Well, I don't think that's why he's saying he's not hip-hop. I think he's saying he's not hip-hop is because he's commercial and he's shopping. But who isn't commercial? Hip-hop has been commercial since the late 90s. I think the guys that aren't selling create the subgenre so that they can have validation within their subgenre. So they're like, yeah, I'm not selling, but the reason I'm not selling is because I'm hip-hop. When in the reality, like you just said, there are people who are hip-hop and they also sell. Sell, yeah. So I just think it's a justification that a lot of artists, you know, create for themselves. And that's just not just Moses. It's a lot of different guys.  Mos, oh my God, Miss Fat Booty was the craziest song. Mos, you are two words. Like everything that you've done is incredible. So he's walking around like, I am incredible. I'm the best. Why am I not selling like the best? Oh, it must be that he does a form of music that is more digestible and shittier and the masses can consume it. Whereas I have high art and high art can only be consumed by people who have tastes. Well, that's why, you know, Glasses with the Glasses alone, you know, Glasses with the Loan is the host of the No Ceilings podcast on the Blackfeet I Heart Radio podcast network. What Mos said, Glasses has always said, Glasses always compares Drake music to Walmart or McDonald's. He said it's mass consumption that so many people indulge in. And with all due respect to Glasses, he's also a rapper who doesn't sell as many records as Drake. And so you would say the same thing.  Let's give Glasses a call, let's call him. I'm just saying that's what, I've seen this happen so often with like all different genres of art. Yeah, I don't want to speak for, I don't want to speak for Glasses. But I guess what I would say is that I don't like the subgenres and maybe Mos would, maybe Mos would like belittle his own work because there have been songs that he's done that have been incredibly popular. They could be played at Walmart or Target, whatever the hell you could shop to it. Like there's been numerous times where I heard Ms. Fatbooty while I'm out. I'm not just not just in a club or just in my car or whatever it is. So he has produced the massive success hits. Maybe he would look at those and be like, ah, they're too corporate. I'm not into it. And that's his, you know, he has his own artistic vision. He can do whatever he wants. But he is capable of being part of those. What Drake does is he produces those at a much higher clip than any other artist. And that's why he's the number one guy. Yeah, I wish that the person who was interviewing Mos would have said, but there's been a lot of different rap artists who have been pop. Because what Mos said is very, it's a very, it's a big distinction, right? He didn't say Drake makes pop music. He said, I think Drake is pop. Then he started talking about Drake's music. Now, pop just means it's short for popular. So there's plenty of, you turn on Z100 right now. If you turn on Z100 right now, you're going to hear mad hip hop records. Because hip hop is the most popular genre. Now there is also a pop sound. We know the pop sound is the in sync, the back three boys, the one direction, which slaps by the way.  One of my favorite songs ever, literally. It's literally the best song ever. But if you listen- One direction? One direction. Fantastic. Maybe it's the way she walks. Oh, fire. But Drake don't make that kind of music. So to say Drake is a pop artist, you got to take away all his rap. Drake can literally go on stage, don't do none of his singing songs, and can rap for two hours. Yeah, that's the thing. That's hip hop. How is he not hip hop? Here you go, G right here. G. G, what's the deal? We sitting here on Brilliant Idiots, me and Andrew Shopes, and he said you were most definitely hating on Drake. I don't know why is that the first thing. Like Drew knows me, so that's crazy he would think I'm hating. Yeah, he said hating.  Hating? Yeah, he said you're hating on Drake. I'm hating on Drake, Drew. Well, I guess it depends on if you think music for Walmart is derogative. Is that a compliment when you say that, or is that a criticism? It's just a term of pop music, right? It's like Madonna. It's pop music. Oh, so then I think you and most are saying different things. No, he's saying the same thing, too. It's the music you hear when you shop. Yeah, but I think he's using that, and I guess we should just ask him, but it feels as if he's using that, and I'm judging off of tone. It feels like he's using that as a criticism, where you are saying that because of Drake's popularity, his music is played at all these establishments, but not because of the sound. No, it's created to be played at Target at Walmart. Oh, I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all. So if it's like a next episode or a gin and juice, which has become massive popular crossover records performed at the Super Bowl, they weren't made to be that. Exactly. I don't believe that his is made to be that. Culture and experience. Drake music is... I just had this conversation, right? I just had this conversation. Kentucky Fried Chicken, right? sells fried chicken greens. That is soul food, right? That don't mean Kentucky Fried Chicken sells soul food. Taco Bell has his take on Mexican food, but they don't make Mexican food. Yeah, they do. No, they don't. They make an Americanized version of a Mexican cuisine. That's a pop version. They take flavors, season, different things out, so America can digest it. That's what Drake's music is. All of these things are pulled out so America can digest it. He's brilliant. I think that's what he's saying. It's made for everybody else to enjoy it. He makes music for the masses, but I mean... But that's what everybody does. So, yeah, so what's the difference? No, no, no. Everybody doesn't do that, Drew. You don't think Kanye did that at one point? I keep saying this. Remember we had this conversation, and I was like, I've been thinking about, where's he staying? I see Kanye as Michael Jackson and Drake as Madonna. Michael made soul music. Oh, gee. Off the Wall is a soul album, bro. No, no, Jackson, that's a disco album. Jackson Pye made soul music. What about... He's a disco album. Disco is black music, though. That's still black cultural soul music. I'm not knocking it. I'm just telling you his origins were from R&D music, which was the Jackson Pye. And I think Kanye does the exact same thing. He takes urban ideas, right? And then he shoves them into where you can get Thriller and Off the Wall, right? He's fantastic at it, right? If you listen to Thriller, right? Thriller is just Rick James giving to me, baby. Or Billie Jean is just hauling notes. I can't go for that. Or, you know, Beattish is Mascheruna by the Natch. So... Don't stop until you get enough. It's Marvin Gaye got to give it up. Like, there are obvious things that he's going to create a version of pop music from an urban take. So... So, here's the thing. You're saying... So, you're saying, and correct me if I'm wrong here, you're saying that it is his intention to water down and manipulate these other genres to make it more digestible for the masses. Yes, not manipulate. That's what being a great pop producer is. Max Martin, right? Well, no, you compared it to KFC and you compared it to Taco Bell. They are influenced by a certain type of food, but capitalism has forced them to try to sell as many tacos as they can or as many biscuits as they can. And because of that, they're making it digestible to as many possible people as they can. Chinese food in America is different than Chinese food in China. Yada, yada, yada. What I would argue is, this is the type of music he just wants to make. He's not going, how can I make it most digestible to everybody, but rather, this is the stuff, this is my artistic reflection. This is the only music he can make. Well, then if it's authentic to him, he's not watering anything down, and... No, no, but this is my point. He's the all... As a Canadian person, his tank is the all-American experience. That's why it's referenced as top music, right?  It was a taco place started in Southern California by this white man who liked, who wanted to make Mexican food for white people. What I'll push back and say, Jean, is I feel like Drake's best, at least to me, his best work is when he's rapping about his experiences in Canada. Agreed, but they're pop experiences. Not, I mean, not to me. Now, when he's talking about trying to be on the c... When he's talking about being on the come-up, trying to make it as a rapper, yada, yada, yada. Like, I like when he raps about what he's going through in Canada. That sounds very organic to me. I don't think it's nothing to like or dislike about it. It's always fantastic. He's a fantastic artist. Do you think he's hip-hop? No, he's not. It's obvious he's not. So if a guy can get on stage and rap two hours of music, he's not hip-hop? No. Just because you use rap music does not make you hip-hop. Hip-hop music is at this point is going to be used by everybody. Post Malone uses it to get in. Rap music has the least barriers of hip-hop in general. You can match yourself as a hip-hop artist easy. Drake does it very well. So what's hip-hop? Malone came through the door calling himself White Allen Iverson with Bray to the back. Got in the door and said, I am not that, right? Because he could go and be a white person. So what's hip-hop? Look at all of that. Schultz said what's hip-hop? Street urban culture personified through the arts. So Kanye is not hip-hop? His most hip-hop? That's a problem, right? I've been having this conversation for a while. Of course, to the rules, but the rules. So there are kids that grew up in suburban areas that still had street urban culture. Ask most of us. Ask them if most is hip-hop. You think most deaf is hip-hop?  Is he street urban culture personified? Yes, he is. This hip-hop related question. The slang he uses, the way he walks, the way he talks is street urban. Not recently the way he talks. The culture is treated in old places. Not in suburban, middle-class, Canada. That's completely far away from street urbanized.  I've never seen that in life. I like it. It's ridiculous. I want to try. It's just crazy. That's a lot. So you can't be hip-hop unless you... So you can't be hip-hop unless you're from America and you're from the hood, essentially. I won't even say America. It's not just street urban. It's street urban culture. It has to be secret, crime-written, disillegated communities. The culture created there.   Bye, glasses. Bye, glasses. Thank you. This was my favorite proof as a kid. Who? I saw the movie. I have this orderlies on DVD right now.  The fat boys. The fat boys pushed a very violent lifestyle on the people, man. Yo, they did. Because people aren't talking about their experiences. They're pushing unhealthy lifestyle. Very unhealthy lifestyle. I love the fat boys. Very unhealthy lifestyle. There was a different day then, and we understood that's what they were going through. Y'all would say the fat boys are not hip-hop right now. Y'all would say the fat boys aren't hip-hop. I believe they are. I believe Drake is hip-hop, too, though. No, no, he's not. He's a pop artist. They use his rap sometimes as a delivery. Damn. I'm going to hit your line. My man. That was Glasses Malone, the host of the No Stealing's podcast. Y'all, ladies and gentlemen, I don't know. I think Drake is hip-hop. I think Andre 3000 is hip-hop. I think Kanye is hip-hop. I get what G is saying, but I think these people are rapping way too good to not be considered hip-hop, yo. Because you're looking at off of the skill of rap. He has prerequisites for hip-hop that are outside of Drake's control. Yeah. Whereas you're treating it based on if someone is rapping or they're not rapping. As simple as that for me. And maybe most has a similar prerequisites or different prerequisites that, for example, Drake just doesn't fit in. Maybe Drake is, or maybe most as simple as like, yo, if your album is going number one, it can't be nuanced and niche enough to be real hip-hop. It has to be pop, and maybe he doesn't like that. And that's why I think we put ourselves in boxes, right? Because to me, when I look at Drake, when I look at Andre 3000, I look at Kanye West, all I see is three of the greatest artists that ever existed, period. Forget the genre. There's three of the greatest. Who? Kanye, Andre, Drake. Drake hasn't taken the same chances. What did you say? Yes. What did you say, Chris? I don't think Drake has taken the same chances. Bro, he's singing. I don't mean in terms of the format. He's in the most macho, masculine of who he is. I think he is. He's incredibly, yeah. He's vulnerable. But what else do you want? More than that. I mean, I think that those guys are much more nuanced artists, for sure. Are they? I mean, Drake has taken some real chances, man. Like, I mean, there's a lot of things that Drake has done. Miss Fat Booty? Miss Fat Booty was fire. One of my favorite songs. I could rap it bar for bar. I wouldn't say that that is like more vulnerable or peeled back layers more than any Drake song.  Hated that record, by the way. I think most deficit stuff that really makes you think beyond a song. Most deficit, though. There's no question he has. I don't go to that layer with Drake or that space. You know, but I was telling my man this earlier. These kids, most of their captions for the past 12, 13 years have been Drake lyrics. They think Drake is Nostradamus. Drake is Malcolm Gladwell to these kids. Seriously. Like, he's... That literally means when he puts out, I'm like, all right, my new caption is coming up. That's what I'm saying.  So I'm not, you know, Drake's hip-hop as far as I know. Let's face some bills, Taylor. All right, guys, let's take a break for a second. Listen, you need to start the year knowing you found the right life insurance to protect your family with policy genius. 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The great American crime stories for decades have been the Italian mafia in America. That's right, okay. We've kind of went through almost all those stories. And when you were an Italian with a story, or you wrote a story about the Italian mafia, you wanted two people to direct it. Scorsese, Fort Coppola, right? Like, and why? Because they're Italians, right? Mm-hmm. They understand the culture. They're not gonna have your character that is representation of you looking goofy out there. They actually know who you are.  I think the next line of American streets or crime stories are gonna come from the black community and the hip-hop community. And I think you've already started seeing this happen now. Now, if you're somebody who comes from the street, you're locked up, right? Who do you want writing your story?  To me? To write? Not to write. You get professional writers to do it. To produce to make sure that your story is safe. Someone who understands what it's like to be out there and also understands how important that is to be represented. When I'm talking to him about that, I'm like, oh, this is genius, bro, you got it. You figured it out.  And if this is gonna be the next line of these American crime stories, like the run the Italian mafia had in American cinema, I mean, to me, we're talking about tens of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm only going to base it off stories that I know are real because I was about to say the wire was fantastic, but that'd be lying because I never saw an episode of the wire. But I'll just say it anyway. The wire was fantastic because that's, you know. It was so good. Paid in full, amazing story about, you know, the drug dealers in Harlem, the outpoles and the rich in pole, I think their names were, things like that. That was fantastic. I don't know who wrote that, but to your point, Dame Dash was an executive producer. You know what I mean? So it gives it a credibility. When you think about old... You don't need the writer to be from the culture. No, no. You just need a producer like John Singleton with Boys in the Hood. Exactly. The Hughes Brothers with Men in Society.  Aware enough. Aware, yeah, yeah, yeah. 50's just in such a unique position, man, because, yeah, there's nobody who was looking at that genre like the gold it is. It is the next line of American rags to riches stories. Yeah. I mean, that's what was so seductive about the Italian mafia, these people who are come here with nothing and then go, it's the American dream. You go make tens of millions of dollars.  Now I'm not saying that you should do that to get on in America, but it's not dissimilar to the black American street crime that you will see now populating Hollywood sentiment. I mean, that's why so many black people gravitated towards good fellas and gravitated towards... Yeah, because they're like, yo, this is my way out too. Absolutely, gravitated towards car face. I wonder if they'll have... I wonder if black street stories will have that same impact on other people. We saw American gangster. Well, think about like this. Think about like this. What were Italians also... you could argue overrepresented in prior to the release of all those films? Pizza. Correct. Music. They dominated popular music. Really? Oh, you heard a guy named Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra was Italian? This guy is so crazy. I did not know Frank Sinatra was Italian.  Really? Wait, what were the Jersey boys? Were they Italian? Bobby Darron. I thought Frank Sinatra was Jewish. Bobby Darron was Jewish, wasn't he? No, Tony Bennett I think is Italian for sure. Tony Bennett is Italian? Yes, you know that. I hate this guy, bro. What? You're one of the people I'd probably hate more than anybody. Who else is Italian, yo? John and the Belmonts for Italian. What they sing? What they sing? Yo, don't indulge him, bro. Just move on. Yo, you know who was fire? Fire Italian group?    I had no... I really didn't know Frank Sinatra was Italian. I thought Frank Sinatra was Jewish. Straight up. What? I thought he was Jewish. Ain't he from Brooklyn? No, Hack and Sack or somewhere. Somewhere right over the river. Maybe Jersey City. Frank Sinatra's from Jersey? Yeah. Definitely. Wow. Frankie Valli's the guy at Jersey who I was thinking about. Frankie Valli. I thought Frankie Valli was Latino. It's a fine line. He is, right? I'm not making this up. Yo, why don't you get swallowed up? Why don't you get swallowed up? Google Frankie Valli's ethnicity, yo. He's the Italian. I don't have to Google it. Frankie Valli is very Italian. Very Italian? Yeah. That's crazy.  Italian? Yeah. Of course. 50 is the king of street. The point I was making was that Italians were so over-represented in pop music and pop culture, right? Then their stories are also represented in Hollywood culture. Right now, who's over-represented for their percentage of people in the country in music? Black people. Black people. Hip-hop. Hip-hop. Hip-hop, at least maybe before this year, was the popular genre of music. And now you're going to also see those stories told as well. So the setup looks beautiful. It looks amazing. It looks amazing. Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what happens. I mean, there's so many stories out there. BMF story. 50 caught that. And you can't even be mad at them because there's nobody in Atlanta who had the muscle TV and film-wise that 50 has garnered. You know what I mean? Like, I've heard plenty of people say they wanted to do the BMF story, but didn't get it done. 50 got it done. 50 didn't even do the New York story. 50 didn't even do... That would be the one. And also that big studio that he just closed on? Did you hear about that? Is that happening? Yeah. Like, you got to prove for it. Yeah, he did. 50, you need to highlight my guy, Sean Penn, man. Sean Penn, formerly known as Little Sean, the rapper. When you talk about New York street stories, because I agree with you. He hasn't been like a classic New York street tale. 50 is sitting on the New York wire. He is sitting on the New York... What he told me that night is the New York wire.  Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. He is sitting on the New York wire. 100%. Say it. It's supposed to be like a play off of it? Nah, he could... You don't got to play. They didn't raise the cane in him based off... No, raising the cane in his based off 50 cents character from power. I know, but I thought he added some of his... I mean, he probably does a little bit. What I'm saying is there is a almost biopic. You have to get permission and the rights of a lot of people, and there's going to be a lot of stuff maybe exposed. There shouldn't be, but...  Oh, my God.  You know what I mean? How I would do it? How I would do it? If I'm him? Borough to Borough? Borough to Borough? Yeah, Borough to Borough. So, you know how the wire went? Oh, here is the hood. Here's the school system. Here's the docks. Here's the police, whatever. So you start, and the story can start in Queens. It can start with all these figures, these OGs, et cetera. You have other figures from these different boroughs popping up so the characters are introduced, but the main story is over there in Queens. Then the next season could be main stories in Brooklyn, but you still have the Queens people popping it. Next can be Harlem. Yeah. Next can be the Bronx, right? Next can be whatever else it is, and the final maybe can incorporate all of them, but there's an unbelievable story here. What did they say? New York got eight million stories. Yes, sir. Need to tell. Yes, sir. The crazy thing is, you could almost do, 50 wouldn't even have to do like one. He could do like how, you've seen Marvel. Bro, you could do five different series. Yeah, you could do something new every episode. I love Marvel What If, right? Yeah, I should have. Because in 30 minutes, I get a beginning middle and an end. Yeah. I mean, I get whole world saved in 30 minutes. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I don't even need a whole movie. You could do like a whole anthology series just based off New York's, New York's street stories. Totally. I just like the idea of, like what I thought was so epic about Avengers is that they mapped this out decades ago. And then each movie slowly pushed the story toward this moment where all the story lines were going to collide and then they executed it with perfection. Imagine you could do that with New York street stories. Yes. Like to me, that's, that would be an epic undertaking and you need guys that really know what they're doing with the storytelling because intertwining all those things, like putting these little Easter eggs that aren't going to pay off for three seasons.  Like imagine we had New York city street Game of Thrones. Literally that detailed storytelling. Yeah. And it's there. Like, listen, you can't tell me, you ever watched me in the society? Fantastic. Boys in the hood, fantastic. Like you can get into that type of detail. But here's the thing. He was telling me stories that, and I'm from New York, I'm born and raised in New York.  I was grew up in Queens? I mean, Far Rock. Far Rock. It's Queens stuff. It's Queens, but it's a little bit removed from... They need the Queens 50 talking about it. Yeah. I mean, G-U and it was in Far Rock? Yeah, the team tops. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Flip flops. The beach towels. This one 50 was boo-boo. Yes. Oh. That was dudes like that. No, no. Rodney Nick is off the street in Far Rock. I guess what I'm trying to say is... I guess what I'm trying to say is... What was I trying to say? You said Alex tried to hear the dudes running dudes off the street. Oh, now you're doing it. Now you're doing it in Indian Eye, and now you agree. Alex said the dudes running dudes off the street. Wait, what was I just... Why did I bring that up? Because you were saying Alex ain't really from the hood. That's what you said. No. What did I say? What was I saying? I don't want to glorify that stuff, so you're right, Charlamagne. What are you saying? Huh? What was I saying? You were talking about how... You were talking about 50 and the stories from Queens.  You said you may be familiar with some of these dudes. Oh, yeah. I didn't even know these dudes. Like, I'm from New York City. And there's some names I recognize and others that I was like, I honestly, I don't know who that is. Nah, but 50 can do it. Yeah. And he's going... What am I talking about? He can do it. 50 is going to do it. Yeah, it will be crazy. It's going to get done. It will be crazy. Okay? Salute to Fifth, man. I don't even think people really appreciate what Fifth has done in the TV space show.  It's hard to get one thing made. This man has gotten... I can't even remember how many seasons of power.  Raisin' Canaan. The Ghost series. BMF. Fucking...  That was based off the dude from Most Corner. Oh, the lawyer. The lawyer. Isaac Wright Jr. Isaac Wright Jr. Salute to Isaac Wright. I know Isaac really well, man. Yeah, I bet. Good guy. Do you want to talk about the politics? What happened in politics? Oh, Trump landslide? Young landslide? Wasn't a landslide, though. Stop it. Here's my thing. Stop it. I've said this a million times. I think Republicans right now are doing themselves a disservice by not pushing Trump to the side and putting Nikki Haley as the GOP front-runner. And the reason I say that, because if you look at what happened in Iowa, 50% of Republicans in Iowa voted against Trump because, fucking... DeSantis had, like, 20-something percent and Nikki had, like, 19 almost 20%. And they said that the people who voted for Nikki were mostly Democrats and independents. It's not a sure bet for Donald Trump in the general election. It's not. Even against sleepy goddamn Joe. Charlemagne. I'm trying to tell you. Charlemagne. And it was the lowest turnout for a caucus ever in Iowa. Because there's a lot of people that's just like, I told y'all already, there's some people who, 2024 is all about Trump, who's the criminal, Joe Biden, who's the coward in the couch. And a lot of people who are not energized by Trump-Biden rematch, and they staying home. It's the lowest turnout for a caucus in Iowa in years. It also was freezing cold, it could be part of it. It's freezing cold. No, it was like... They're dealing with the Dragon-Z out there. It's not even like a... It's not even like a...  Come on.  I thought I gave it away because tomorrow I started... I thought you did too. You also almost gave it away. See, look, 51% but then Ron understands 20%. And more than Joe had a really good point.  Are we sure of that? That's what he was saying. That's what he was saying. Like, Trump 51%, all I'm saying is it's not a short thing in a general election. That's all I'm saying. There's a lot of baggage that comes with Trump.  Wade getting taken away. I'm just saying if Republicans really want to win... Yeah, they need to chill. ...and win in the landslide... They need to chill with that. Nikki might be the one. Why, Nikki's saying we're not touching that? What you mean? Like... No, I'm just saying I think that Nikki comes with less baggage in a general election and you already know Republicans are going to fall in line and if she can pick up some Democrats and some independents... The only problem is that she doesn't capture the politically disillusioned voter. In other words, the voter who's upset at the system because she's a system quarterback. Yeah, so I think that there's a lot of concern about the system. I don't think they want to replace Biden with someone who is essentially just like Biden. Who's going to tell the company in line. Well, we have Trumpito. Yeah, but Trump... You get Trump back in there, man. Don't you want World War III? We all just go down in a blaze of corn. It's going to be a revenge tour. Like, that's my whole thing. Like, I can't do four years of revenge tour, bro.   You got to have some policy, some legislation, something, bro. Like, you can't go in there and just wage war on all your political enemies. Plus, I'm not going to have a job.  You think? Oh, 100. He's already said that. What are you talking about? He said that already. He said that. He's not going to find a way. He said the press charges on the head of MSNBC. He's the same guy who wanted to get the motherfucking Lauren Michaels locked up, bro. Because they make fun of him on SNL. What are we talking about? Good. That's fire. It's all fun and games that you make a joke about his daughter on stage. I'm not going to talk about, well, which one? I don't know, man. And I just think Republicans are really dropping the ball on an opportunity to really scrimp from the party. You know what I mean? If you really want to take the party back from Trump, if it's really not the MAGA party, like y'all say. So you like Haley? You like Haley. I don't like her. I just think it's politically smart to do it. But we know what they're playing for.  What are they playing for forever? You put Trump in all this. So I know Iowa doesn't represent the rest of the country, but if she only got 20% and Trump got 50, you think that that entire 50 is going to be like... Santa's got another 20 plus. 50% of all Republicans in Iowa voted against Trump. Yes, but also 50 voted for him with all the baggage that comes with it. But I think those people, like I said with Nikki, a lot of those people were Democrats and independents. I think a lot of those people just stay home in the general election. I just do. I just think a lot of those people just stay home. They had another statistic that said one-third of Republicans in Iowa don't even like Trump. I think the vote in the Republican Party is it's Trump or nothing or anything but Trump. Those are the two votes. It's never usually like that, though. I know. So it's like... Yeah, Republicans just usually fall in line, man. Yeah, so now if you have Nikki Haley, there's going to be those Trump or nothing people that are going to stay home. So she won't win the general either. I don't know. Ah, shoot! God damn. I just don't know. I think Nikki's the safest bet. What do you think, Chris? I agree with Andrew. I mean, I think a lot of the sentiment is not even directed at a particular candidate. It's just frustration. And I think... With the system... The Santa's at least is bucking the system a bit and he kind of like resents the system. He's like a super system guy. Not really in terms of what he did in Florida. His decisions went against what the government wanted in Florida or not what the federal government wanted. The Democratic government at the time, yeah. He's willing to take more political chances than... But he's also been exposed as kind of a goofball. Right. And people don't like goofballs. I think Donald Trump is too risky in a general. I think it's the same level of risk for Trump as it is by... I really do. I think both parties need to move away from both of them. I think Republicans need to move away from Trump. Democrats need to move away from Biden. I just think it's too much of a risk. If you're trying to win, it's a... I mean, it sounds ridiculous to say because it's dull, but it's a 50-50 toss-up with either one up there. So who does the Democrats move to? I have no idea. They don't have no mention. Somebody better come up with something soon. Well... Something else. Meet me at the crossroads and you don't get lonely. You just never know when you're dealing with people at age, man. You think it might... You don't know. You're death at my point. I think all these things you're dealing with... Oh, my God. You're not just dealing with goddamn... What? I had to scratch. Goddamn, bro. I had to scratch. I had to scratch yourself up about Nikki. That's great. That's a wild boy. That's one of the wildest boys ever in the history of goddamn boys, man. You know, Nikki could get that pop corn stuff. He could get that popcorn, bro. He could get that popcorn, bro. That's what I'd do. I had to adjust. Jesus Christ. I had to adjust. Chill out, Taylor. I had to adjust. Chill out, Taylor. Jesus Christ. Taylor, chill out. I'm down, yo.  That was insane. What'd I do? That was insane. I just scratched my... You think you can win for it. Right testicle sack? I got something that'll get you soft. What do you think of Lil Nas X apologizing to Christians? Us Christians don't care. Us Christians don't care, Charlotte. They did. Us Christians don't care. We don't think about Lil Nas X. And we won't let... Did you hear that? Us Christians don't care. And we won't let Lil Nas X's antics frustrate us. Can I show you what he said, though? Yeah, I saw what he said. But us Christians don't care.  Bro, you can't fart when you talk about Lil Nas X. I'm flurring. That is flirting.  If you fart around another man, yo, that's flirting, yo. Come on, yo.  Yeah, why are your buttholes open? Are you looking at him? That's flirting. Do y'all... What? What? Go to ask him these things. Wait, I have a question. We got another ad, too. Yeah, we got one more. When the doctor had to test you out...  I'm still not over that.  What? Tell it, tell it. What are you saying right now?  I just did. Why are you farting so much?  That was a queef. Your vagina need renovations if it's making too much noise. That is true.  What? You got a creaky vagina.  I didn't say nothing about me at all.  You didn't answer my question. No, but what does it look like? If your car was making that sound, you'd take it to get checked. Take it in. Take it in. You didn't tell me your check. If your tire did what's that...  If your tire did that, you would take your tire to get checked. It is a problem. Transmission's broke. Straight up. If you heard that noise... You was just flirting with Lil Nas X. Now y'all don't want to talk about it. If you heard that noise anywhere in your house, you're going to get it fixed.  You would. Okay, so why when your vagina makes noises like that, y'all just chalk it up? You know what I mean? No.  How much is it cost? Dr. Wise is making noise.  And when you in the doctor's office, he said, what kind of noise is it making? You know technically that means y'all dig isn't big enough, because it's too much air. Oh, that's what you're talking about. No, technically that means... Is that what it means? Technically you need to be refurbished. Yeah.  Your vagina wasn't always that big. That's just why it's so big, y'all. Or y'all just got skinny dicks. It's too wise your vagina's so big. But why isn't your vagina snatch? First of all, y'all not talking about me. I'm just saying snatch is on a tampon. Why maybe it's just as slow to snatch. You got a slow snatch. Your snatch back is slow. You're not talking about me.    Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? He tray you. What's it called? He tray you. That's exactly what a queef sounds like. That movie, man. Never ending story. Never ending vagina, man. Queef forever. Let's play some bills, Taylor. Do you want to answer my question? What question do you want to answer? Take the answer. Leave Queen Lequeef alone. I was thinking that too and I didn't say it. That's so funny. I was thinking it as well. Let Chief Queef have her moment. That's not first of all. I'll try it because it's not. If you got a group, it's a try called Queef. It is. Oh, he's on fire. That guy's on fire right now. Don't stop. Do not stop. Oh.  Why don't we talk about that guy you beefing with all the time, the Queef Stamfield or whatever his name is? Queef Stamfield. You seen Queef Davidson stand up? No, I haven't. 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Learn where your site visits and sales are coming from and analyze which channels are most effective. Improve your website and build a marketing strategy based on your top keywords or most popular products and content.  Let's do some asking idiots. Taylor Ngang. Okay, asking idiots. Oh, Mr. Crew says, if you would have one conspiracy answer for certain, what would it be? I think I know your show. What would it be? One conspiracy answer for certain. One conspiracy answer for certain. What would it be?  There's one conspiracy answer for certain. What would it be?  There's a lot. I mean, the aliens. My top number one. Who built the pyramids? JFK? JFK'd be really interesting. What's the conspiracy with JFK? Uh... Who shot him? Who shot him? I thought they knew who shot him. I mean, that's a conspiracy. No. They don't know who shot JFK? No, they don't. There was only one to the head though, right? I got ripped up. My man got blasted. Clubbed up. Damn. They're going to change that story in the history books anyway. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, so there's a bunch. They're going to say he was just off for a drive. He wanted to clear his head. Yo.   That's how that story is going to be told in a couple of years. Watch. What about Abraham Lincoln? How are they going to tell his story? He was too tall. He was too tall. That's right. It wasn't even meant for him.  It wasn't even meant for him, man. Not even a little bit. Mine would definitely be extraterrestrials though. Why? Just because I want to know about Roswell. I want to know about Area 51. I want to know what's going on and what they call the new Area 51 in Alaska. You know what I'm saying? I want to know. I want to know what happened in Miami in the mall for real. I want to know how many times they visited us.  Remember this thing about how Richard Nixon actually had a meeting with extraterrestrials and they... No, it was Nixon. It was Nixon. Reagan said, I forgot, but it was during a speech and he was having a conversation to Russia and he was like, what if we had a real threat from another planet? We would have to come together. When Nixon they said had a meeting with extraterrestrials and they did like this whole treaty, which is going crazy. What is?  Why is it not going crazy?   This is insane. It is. I respect your freedom to fart anyway though. Wait, why? You wouldn't do it? I don't fart in my clothes. What? I don't fart in my clothes. So you hold it in all day? I think it's a habit. My butthole knows when to fart.  You never get the urge to fart at all.  You're the alien. That's crazy. Didn't you say your farts are out of control now because of... Yeah, but I didn't say I farted in my clothes. I would think that means you're farting in clothes now. No. While I'm on the toilet, fart when I'm in the shower and I can just feel it. I feel like you know when it's silent or not. I can control the smell.  But I can control that. If you guys want it to not smell, I can keep the smell in. You just blame it on other people. No, I can't. Why is the podcast so juvenile? Oh, what about Epstein? Of course I'd want to know that. What do we need to know? Who's on there? Who's on it? Who is he working for? I guess. Nah, that should stink. Buggy shorts. Damn. Okay, Rafael. That's that dragon Z, boy.  The underscore corner says can y'all combined... Might.  Yeah, it's just...  God. Where you going, yo? People going to think it's you, yo. Smell crazy. Can y'all combined... Beat up the rock? Yeah.   With all due respect. I'm sorry. We're world class fighters. We're world class fighters, bro. Nah, it's real. And the thing with the rock... I don't see it, guys. Listen, push come to shove... And? I don't know if you've seen him in person. He's huge. And we not going to fight fair. Yeah, why would you think we're going to fight fair? Why do you think he's going to fight fair? This is 2 on 1. If Andrew jump on his back, put him in a chokehold. You know I'm going. Load a belt, baby. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? That's what a vulnerability is at. I'm going down with a vulnerability is at. Okay?   Come on.  Yo, stop the pie before Charlemagne comes out the closet. He just turned into a urologist. He really did.  I'm telling you, he don't want to...  Salute to the rock though. Love you, rock. Rock is a great guy, but is this a hypothetical question? Me and Andrew together? Come on, yo. Oh. Show us, which rapper would you do a skit for that album? Andre 3000. You be farting? Yeah.   I was on one somebody's album. Who's album? They used a clip from me. Fuckin' forget the guy's name. I think he's one of Cole's writers. It's too easy, man. Let's do one more. Okay. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Once one trait, you're significant. Others, parents like most about you. Keep going. What's up, Nino? What's a movie? Oh, what's a movie or franchise you want to make a comeback? I like that. That was a better one. We can do that one, but there was a good one up here we should do too. Let's do that one. What is one valuable thing you have learned from one another? What is one valuable thing you have learned from one another? With Andrew, I would say perseverance. Um... Definitely perseverance and definitely betting on yourself. Even though I've always known these things, it's so interesting when you see somebody truly roll the dice on their self in a unique way because for everything Andrew did, it could have backfired. You know what I'm saying?  And I'm going to do this shit it could have worked it could not have worked and I don't know if you did this on purpose but it started with sports. Yeah. It turned into what it's turned into now. For me it would be perseverance and just a reminder to bet on yourself because Andrew did everything that they tell you to do in Hollywood. You know what I mean?  It was no place for a straight white male.  I would say for Charlemagne you could be a man of the people or a man of the industry but you can't be both. You would always say that and that really stuck with me. Until you create your own industry. Exactly. There are times you can always work with them but your priority should be the people always. And I think that has always resonated with me. That was maybe the best piece of it was just something, a game I soaked up and it was like, yeah, you have to make the things you have to create for yourself but with the intentions of satisfying the people with that thing you create not satisfying the execs or whatever because that's going to be the most authentic version of what you create and that will set you free. That completely liberated me. That's right. That's what I said. My intention always now for the rest of my life is just to be a service, man. However I can be a service that's what I'm here to do. That's it. Scroll down. What was the one we was about to answer? What movie or franchise you want back? No, the other one. The next one. What movie or TV franchise would you want to bring back?  Do Tony and Joan become friends again? Does Tony come back? Does Joan get married? Does Lynn's music career take off? What, Taylor? Why don't you try to produce a movie for it? You could sum it all up in a film. A film or miniseries you know Mara Brockacill wants to do a film Tracy Ellis Ross wants to do a miniseries you know I interviewed the whole cast of Girlfriends about 3-4 years ago Tracy Ellis Ross Persia White Jill Marie Jones and Golden Brooks Tracy wants it to be a miniseries I mean as I said either one Mara says she got the story she knows how she wants to close it she knows how she wants to put a bow on it it's a no brainer for me it's owned by CBS Paramount Paramount plus y'all need that y'all saw what the best man holiday or whatever the new best man was called the best man final chapters you saw what that did for NBC Peacock Girlfriends would do that for y'all times a billion so I just don't understand what's the hold up I saw Kelsey Grammar recently because he's the executive producer Kelsey Grammar said that they having talks about it make it happen man that's the one Girlfriends is the one that is the one it checks off all the boxes that y'all like to be checked off in a nice organic way what would you bring back I don't know that's a great question I don't know Seinfeld yeah Seinfeld they are bringing Seinfeld back shut up look it up they're bringing Seinfeld back google it right now Seinfeld reboot after you google it I want you to say you were right Alex google it they're doing a Seinfeld reboot I'm telling you they're doing a Seinfeld reboot yeah the Seinfeld revival isn't confirmed I know Jerry so now I know Jerry I'm telling you it's coming back maybe I wasn't supposed to feel that you know who told me it was coming back Michael Richards did he really yes he said y'all niggas better watch okay okay alright yo we out here listen to this podcast you think we're smart you think we're intelligent you think we're brilliant you're absolutely right but if you think we're just a couple idiots you don't know shit you're right too it's the brilliant idiots podcast thank you for listening